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"fox & friends" starts right now. good morning. it's monday, may 5. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. horror at the circus. abg -- acrobats plunging 40 feet to the ground as stunned families watch. shocking. two parents in the audience who caught it all on camera are here live this lu) coming up. >> and the white house response to benghazi may finally be investigated. so how do democrats react? >> i think it's a colossal waste of time. i don't think it makes sense really for democrats to participate. >> really? is it really a colossal waste of time to seek justice for those four dead americans? we're going to talk about that. >> so much for unity. students forbidden from wearing american citizens today because it is cinco de mayo. isn't this america? i ask you but you can't -- i can't hear you. hopefully you'll write me. phorpbgdz are better with friends. >> it's time for "fox &ç friends." >> live from studio e. they spuld -- pulled out all the stops. >> i know. a lot to say about benghazi. the author of "24." >> it starts tonight. my daughter sent me a note. you see sharyl attkisson, she is writing a book. she knows just about everything there is to know about benghazi. >> i saw the shows over the weekend. he'llç be here to talk about what it is like being called dude. the dude of the hour. how many correspondents called him dude. jayce robinson, he is the oldest brother on that show. >> a new book out that deals with a, what's it called? wood chuck. >> we have a whole family of them. >> we let them live back there. they live in the backyard. we live in the house. >> what are you concerned about? going after your children? >> yeah. >> we've got a busy monday. let's start with benghazi. it's interesting. it sounds like at the conclusion of business on friday, john boehner announced that there would be a house select committee to investigate benghazi, and it looks as if as early as today they could actually name a chairman,ç somebody, the chief investigator essentially. right now at this point it looks like trey gowdy, the republican from south carolina, is the front-runner. >> other people that are supposed to be on that committee, pete sessions could possibly be there and ilana ross leihten. the question is who on the democratic side will be there? one of the most convincing democrats you could talk to is jane ossman. she seemed to be ground in reality which makesç her a valuable pant on -- valuable panelist on"fox tphuz sunday." when we're talking about benghazi getting to the bottom of the truth, an e-mail that came out last week from ben rhodes which indicated the talking points were formed around the fact -- fact -- that turned out to be false that this attack was the result of a reaction to this youtube video. those points were given to susan rice who went on these talk shows and told the american people that that was the reason that our americans were killed and attacked that day. brit hume is saying the democrats are sticking to the fact that this was not the case. there was no sort of conspiracy on the left or the white house or the administration to cover this up. he talked toç jane harmon who is typically levelheaded about all this stuff. he said this spin, it's not going to win. >> this was not intelligence failure but not a conspiracy. vince foster wasn't murdered and it is time to move on and focus on the real problems in libya and other -- >> if you're right there wasn't a conspiracy in the united states to mount the benghazi attack. that's not the question. the question was whether in the aftermath of the attack when the administration sent its u.n. ambassador out to explain it to everybody, and she didç so falsely, there wasn't a conspiracy to create the false talking points that she used. i'm not talking about the c.i.a. talking points. i'm talking about the talking points used on the program that day which were monumentally misleading and have since been shown to be false and based on no intelligence of any consequence that we know of. >> my answer to that is no, there wasn't a conspiracy. >> how did it happen? >> i think that people made at the time their best guess at the facts. >> wait a minute. where did the idea that the video had anything to do with benghazi come from? >> where did it come from? >> yeah. >> i think it came from people who weren't sure about it. >> can you identify anybody? spoeups -- falsely inserted into the -- >> c.i.a. information. >> -- the video or the movie five times in this memo. >> my view is having been around at the time, that this was not deliberately misleading. it turned out to be wrong but it was not deliberately misleading. >> the c.i.a. was never the one that brought that up. the c.i.a. sat down with the state department and thought how can we make you look good and they never came up from that. >> a republican from utah was on "meet the press." he had a document he said was an internal state department document to cheryl mills, at the time hillary clinton's chief ofç staff. it was dated the day after, september 12. the state department in this document was telling the president, a bolivian congress that a terrorist organization did it. the state department of the united states giving this to libya, we know who did it. the big question is why did we tell the libyans the truth, and yet the administration told us a lie? >> there are some elements to this in that we don't know what happened with those weapons taken there. what was the c.i.a. operation? what about those guns? were they supposed to go over to syria? so the rebels which now we find out some of which were made up of al qaeda members and if the c.i.a. identified that terrorist group as the one operating on the ground, how come two years later we don't have a single person killed or captured? >> if you're an american you wouédç want answers and the truth when it comes to why our own were killed and attacked that day and why the american people didn't get to the bottom of the truth or didn't get it from the administration right away. the select committee's intention is to get us there, but there are some like democrat adam schiff who says this is a waste of time. >> i think it is a colossal waste of time. we've had four bipartisan investigations already. i don't think it makes sense really for democrats to participate. i think it is just a tremendous red herring and a waste of taxpayer resources. i hope the speaker will reconsider but it looks likeç he has bowed again to those from the farthest right of his conference. >> that interview with bret baier afterwards, many people are saying when he saw that, when the speaker saw that, he goes that's it. if that is their explanation for what went on that day, we're going to finally do the select committee. >> tipping point. heather childers, we're going to tip our hat to you for standing in for heather nauert today. >> nice to see you. hope you all had a great weekend. investigators in rhode island, they're looking for clues this morning trying to determine how a circus extent went so horribly wrong. ♪ ♪ >> man, performers, they were hanging from their hair and they plummeted nearly 40 feet to the ground, all of it happening in front ofç a packed house. >> i screamed. i'm like that's not right. sometimes you're surprised. it is part of the show but this clearly wasn't. >> 11 people hospitalized. amazingly all the injuries serious but not life threatening. ringling brothers canceled the rest of the arena shows for the day and will conduct an investigation. in ten minutes we will talk live with parents who were in the audience when the accident happened and caught the whole thing on camera. an air show disaster to also tell you about. the pilot dead when his smallç vintage plane crashes and explodes into flames. >> getting closer and closer. >> oh! >> everybody standstill. do not move. we have had an incident. >> that incident lead did -- deadly. >> the 77-year-old stunt pilot was flying upside down at the time. he was performing a trick when his plane slammed into the tarmac at travis air force base in california. >> thoughts and prayers go out to the family. he has been flying since he was 16 years old and has been performing in air shows for the past 25 years. >> well-respected pilot in the industry. the cause of the crash now under investigation. this morigg the oscar pistorius trial is underway after a two-week break. the defense picking up with the first person to arrive on the scene after reeva steenkamp was shot. who was that person? it was pistorius' neighbor. he recalled the blade runner's phone call to him claiming pistorius said i shot reeva. i thought she was an intruder. come quick. then the neighbor said he came in to find the athlete praying and crying. i know you've been waiting to hear the word. can we finally call her mrs. kim west. new reportsç this morning claiming kanye west and kim kardashian officially tied the knot. according to life and style magazine the couple got their wedding license last week but kim's publicist responding saying, quote, there is no statement. until there is the show there is no after the show. >> if you look at the calendar, today is the fifth day of may. it is cinco de mayo. a couple of years ago in morgan hill, california, a high school forced four white students to remove their american flag shirts because they were afraid there was going to be fighting between the white students and latino students on cinco de mayo. the kids wouldn't change their shirts so they sent them home. since then the courts ruled the school had it in their power to do that to try toç keep the kids safe. >> the rule in february permitted to suppress the white students from free speech rights to default to the free speech of others. where did freedom of expression become freedom to oppress the freedom of expression of another? >> if it's america and you have an american flag on, you wouldn't think you'd get in trouble but that is what is happening. that is called the heckler's veto where some people feel as though the heckler will cause violence you make the heckler change their spots. is thisç playing patriotism even on cinco de mayo or any type of ethnic holiday, is that something that should be permit stph-d do you understand the school's point of view on this? >> a number of tea party organizations are going to rally outside that particular school later on today. they say it has nothing to do with cinco de mayo. it has to do with freedom of speech. there you go right there. there's some folks from that organization. it's just sad that the american flag offends some americans. >> there shouldn't be a place in this nation where the american flag offends anybody. what greater sight would you rather see than students getting together to share their background in peace. i think they would be able to handle this better than adults involved. >> what did betsy ross do all that great work for if you can't even show your minutes after the hour. >> i think that is probably right. also it is one minute before 14 after the hour. coming up, we showed you that terrifying circus fall. up next, the two parents who caught it all on their smart phone. >> ben affleck banned from casinos in vegas. we'll tell you what he is accused of doing. ♪ ♪aseball fans cheering] [milk pouring] great things go together. and new sargento tastings are perfectly paired with every day. exceptional cheeses in smaller, snackable sizes that make it easy to explore new flavors and savor every moment. new sargento tastings. one of a kind flavors found right in your dairy section. find your favorite and make your own perfect pairing. new sargento tastings. perfectly paired with every day. ♪ (vo) oh. my. tongue. finally. 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did they think it was part of the show? >> i think everybody at first was initially really shocked and nobodyç knew what happened. and then pretty soon right after that everybody realized that something went wrong. a lot of younger children were confused by it. but a lot of adults were trying to keep them calm and let them know everybody was going to be okay and stuff. >> britney, how did your kids react? i'm watching this footage now. it gives anyone who sees it a chill. >> every time i rewatch it. >> it's hard to watch. >> yeah, it is. my 16-month-old obviously is a little young to realize what's going on. my four-year-old kept saying mommy, i hope the pretty girls are okay. i hope the rest of the ceiling doesn't fall on them. the whole ride home, he didn't understand why we couldn't stay and the extent of how hurt they actually were. >> was he still worried about the girls? have you heard of any update from theirç condition? i haven't heard any updates on the girls but he still is questioning and asking if they're okay. keith, i heard there were some people that didn't have the great concern your little ones did there, that they were more worried about getting refunds. is that true? yeah. shortly after the action happened, we were on our way out and i had to stop to use the bathroom and i overheard several gentlemen in there more concerned about getting a refund than worried about what happened to the people that, you know, basically almost died. and it kind of like sort of surprised me a littleç bit. sure. will you guys take the kids back? will you take them back again to the circus? we definitely will. it is one of my son's favorite things. he watches videos of it on youtube all the time. i do think it wbr id "wbr11870" is going to be something he remembers. so i'd like to get him back there sooner than later so he doesn't -- so he knows it's not going to happen all the time. i don't want him to sit there and expect that to /b happen next time too. >> great instincts of parents. thank you for being with us from my home state, rhode island. we told you about the new terror connection to the missing plane. now investigators are changing their game plan. plus an exclusive interview with president bush you're not going to want to miss about the next bush who may make a run for the white house.ç >> he knows firsthand what it's like to run for president in that he's just seen his father and his brother run. >> who will discourage him or encourage him? 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>> yes, i am. very tough actually. several different terrains. there's rocks, you go weaving in and out of trees. at one point there were trees the width of a bicycle and you have to figure out what speed to go through. it was like a military exercise, the whole thing. it wasç very exciting. i spoke to him after the ride about his feeling about the vets, the bad hand they have been dealt and how the military is necessary for reaction to the war on terror. lets watch. >> people get dealt a bad hand in life. in this case the men and women volunteered to serve our country, they got hurt, and rather than allowing their injuries to overwhelm them, they've overcome. and they're riding mountain bikes and they're riding hard and they're setting a good example and they're living life to the fullest. it's important for people to realize that freedom is the way to peace. by honoring these vets we're honoring people who understand that. you know, i hope freedom avenges. >> president bush, the key here is compassion he felt for theç vets. he wanted to know where they were any given moment. i spoke to him about the love he has for his family and his brother jeb and the question everyone has been asking he answered for me which is should jeb bush run for president. let's watch. >> i would hope he would run. he's a wonderful man. he's not telling me what his plans are. he'll make up his mind on his own timetable. i can't accelerate it. our mother can't accelerate it or decelerate it. we'll see what he does. he knowsç firsthand what it's like to run for president in that he's just seen his father and his brother run. if he were to choose to run, he's got no stronger supporter than me. >> he was pushing jeb to run last time around even right after him. now you have to ask yourself how much progress 43 made. a year ago he couldn't even golf. now he's doing mountain biking. >> he looks sensational. i think he's in really good shape. he feels good. he made this effortlessly the whole 100 kilometer ride. he had issues with his heart and recovered well from that. he totally wants his brother to run. >> sure. a great cause. following it on instagram with such promise to the troops who have given so much to us. why not jeb,ç some say. >> exactly right. he can't get him on a mountain bike, though. he said only his cousin is a mountain biker of the family. >> only the former president can get you on a mountain bike. >> changed my life. >> president bush even though he can't run again has 49% approval. he left office at 34%. >> because he means what he says. you should see him interact with the vets. he has a definite love, commitment, compassion for them. he gets it. the solution for the bets isn't just the v.a. tk$e talked to me about that. it is the private and nonprofit organizations he brought to the ride here. >> all right. coming up, tonight jack and chloe are back as "24" returns and chloe revealing something to us you won't hear anywhere else. >> an all-star baseball player and singer wife whose says their success is about their faith. >> first happy birthday to adele. she turns 26 years old today. >> and she can sing again. >> she can. ♪ ♪ ♪ i began losing my sight to an eye disease when i was 10. but i learned to live with my blindness a long time ago. so i don't let my blindness get in the way of doing the things i love. but sometimes it feels like my body doesn't know the difference between day and night. i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. i found out this is called non-24, a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70 percent of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms, and learn about the link between non-24 and blindness by calling 844-824-2424. that's 844-824-2424 or visit your24info.com today. don't let non-24 get in the way of your pursuit of happiness. how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? 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we had a live prom posal. >> i don't know what you're saying. >> she asked her boyfriend frank live on the show to go to prom. >> let me ask you a question about "24." why is it that jack and chloe, they never, you know? >> she might prom posal jack bauer. i asked him to the prom. >> so "24" live another day on your fox station. we know jack had something going with audrey raines. >> that's right. heather childers, you're here. >> for heather nauert. nice to be here. we begin with a fox news alert. scary moments for passengers on what they're calling the ride of doom. six people injured after severe turbulence rocked a u.s. airways plane. the flight was from philadelphia to orlando. when it was over, delaware, that's when it happened. but the pilot immediatelyç turned around. one passenger tweeted this saying nice flight until we hit philly. the turbulence was so bad everyone clapped when we landed. another passenger said they saw one flight attendant actually fly into the air and hit her head on the side of the plane. she hit it so hard part of the plane cracked, the ceiling where she hit. >> after more than 50 days of multinational search efforts the flight path of malaysia flight 370 will get a second look. investigators will meet to plan the second phase. all the data will be reanalyzed to be sure crews have been looking in the right place. the next phase is expected to begin within four to six weeks focusing on an u(uq) search. to chaos inside las vegas a stampede breaks out following floyd mayweather's big fight. a crowd thought they heard a gunshot and tried to push through crushing people against the wall shattering glass doors. none of the injuries were serious. floyd mayweather remains undefeated. oscar winningç director, writer actor and card game enthusiast ben affleck banned from playing blackjack at the hard rock las vegas. he is said to be, quote, too good at playing. transhraeugs, he may have been -- translation, he may have been counting cards. >> an advantaged player. heather, thank you very much. let's go out to the streets of new york city where on this cinco de mayo, what kind of a weather day do we have? >> current temperature 52 degrees in new york city. you're going to stay on the cool side across the rest of the northeast, the great lakes and across parts of the pacific northwest. in the south central we'reç looking at temperatures that feel like summer. 100 address -- 100 degrees forecast for midland. in oklahoma city your forecast will reach 97 degrees today. 96 on tuesday and into wednesday across parts of the southern plains. we have an he will sraoeuted -- we have an elevated fire danger across parts of new mexico. we'll keep tracking it. let's head backç inside. >> he's a successful professional baseball player. she is a christian singer with two albums. how did they find time for their two kids and each other. we are joined by ben and julianna zobrist. good morning. what is the answer? you say it is god and faith. your schedules have to be wild. how do you bring it all together practically. >> lots of frequent flier miles and lots of organization. we go through our schedule every spring training and determine with our manager where my shows are going to be and oftentimes we'll schedule them in the same places where he'll be playing baseball and then book flights. this year was like 115. >> my goodness. you just can't shakeç her. >> i don't want to. >> the name of your book is "double play." what is the double play for you? >> the double play is we've kind of been given different talents. she's the musician. i'm the athlete. in baseball, you kind of have to, you have to work together to make a double play happen. that's what we're trying to do is use our two talents, both our faith and belief and trust in god to really complete something that isn't done a lot, difficult to do that. our kids are involved in that play as well. we really just wantç to glorify god with the talents and abilities he's given us. >> you say it's got you through difficult times. you were stuck in triple a and you were trying to get through one of the hardest industries period. how does that help you get through it? >> faith? it's everything, it's our stability. oftentimes you'll come to a moment in your life where you realize your husband is human and you realize you are human, your kids are and that situations are never perfect. god is the constant through that. >> i'm going to turn to "double play." you mentioned faith and you guys got young kids. you're cool; right? right now millenials are turning up in surveys and research saying they're farther from faith than ever before. how do you get them back? >> i think for us, when we were growing up, we both grew upç as pastors' kids. we grew up in the church. everybody reaches that point in their life where they have to realize or decide for themselves is this for me? is this something i'm going to take in personally into my life. for us we both came to that point and decided that regardless of what happens in our life, we want to keep our faith and trust in christ because that's where our grace, that is where our love is found, regardless of how we're performing. we fail a lot. actually in baseball. but, you know, at the end of the day to know that our relationship with christç is intact, our relationship with each other is intact, that really gives us the grace to continue forward. >> that's nice. that's really critical. i was in church yesterday and there are no people -- there are some very young people and very old people, a lot of people my age there. but the very young they aren't there, kids in their 20's and 30's, nobody is going to church. >> growing up in pastor's homes that is where we were all the time. it's been very different for us to step into kind of entertainment worlds where for pwaeufrb -- baseball where traveling eight months out of the year where we rarely are able to go to church. we now stepping back see the value and importance in being there. our community in nashville, our bibleç church has become such a rock and a stable force in our lives with just prayer and community and talking. it's very important to us. but we've kind of had the extremes where we've been in it all the way and then we've been kind of taken out of it somewhat. but it's very important for us. >> it is. it's great that you would share your new book with us. 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that's what makes us who we are. what we now realize is that just because somebody has died, it doesn't mean that their consciousness has also died. when a person reached a point of death, their brain cells haven't become anilated. >> you say the key is cooling the body when death is there. not freezing the body. you also brought up the fact that if you were able to treat those passengers from the titanic, that maybe you would have been able to bring them back. >> again, this is not me. this is resuscitation science. science evolved in the last 100 years. if you think about when the titanic sank, people were found ruiner one or two hours after they had died, which today we know it's feasible to bring people back after four or five hours. on one hand science is allowing us to reverse death, at least in many cases. on the other hand, you have these incredible people who have gone beyond death and come back with their testimonies of what it was like. they describe feeling amazingly peaceful. they describe seeing a bright, warm, welcoming light which takes them towards it. they describe seeing relatives welcáájjt them. describe a beautiful area. >> this is all scientifically backed up. we thank you for being here. your book is "erasing death." raising brows today. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up straight ahead, how is this for an attention grabber? 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donald trump on that in minutes. and jack is back. >> put your hands where i can see them! >> jack, what are you doing? >> yeah, jack, what are you doing? closey said. "24" making its big return tonight. this morning the actress is here with a sneak peek. thank you for joining us on this monday morning because mornings are always better with friends. >> hi, you know as khloe from "24". you're watching "fox & friends." >> thanks. we're running out of time! >> we are. get the computer. or the high device. whatever it may be. >> you guys saw the great line - up that we have still left in the show, right? >> we did. i was just talking to gary sinise in the green room. >> he's going to be on, too, right? >> yeah. and donald trump in two minutes and he's hacked off! find out why in two minutes. first heather childers has the news. >> we'll talk more about the incidents that happened under the big top. investigators in rhode island are look for clues to determine how this circus stunt went horribly wrong. wow. the performers were hanging from their hang, first of all, and they plummeted nearly 40 feet to the ground. it all happened in front of a packed house. earlier we spoke with a family who was in the arena when this happened. >> my four-year-old just kept saying issues mommy, i hope the pretty girls are okay. i hope the rest of the ceiling doesn't fall on them. the whole ride home he didn't understand why we couldn't stay in the the extent of how hurt they were. >> 11 people were hospitalized with serious but amazingly nonlife-threatening injuries. ringling brothers & barnum & bailey circus canceled the rest of the shows for the day and they will conduct an investigation internally to find out what happened. another disaster 'cause on camera at an air show. a pilot killed when the small vintage plane crashes and explodes into flames. >> oh! everybody, stand still. do not move. we have had an incident. >> more than an incident. you can see the fire, the thick black smoke rising into the sky. the 77-year-old stunt pilot, you can see he was flying upside down. he was performing a trick when his plane slammed into the tarmac, happened in front of thousands at travis air force base in california. >> our thoughts and prayers go out to the family of mr. eddie andrede, flying since he was 16 years old and performing in air shows for the past 25 years. >> well respected veteran. the cause of the crash, that is well under investigation. the indiana man hospitalized with the first u.s. case of the mysterious and deadly mrs virus expected to speak later today. doctors say the man is in good condition and he's getsing better, but he's not been identified. we do know that he was a health care worker traveling in saudi arabia. that is where officials think that he caught the virus. it will be interesting to hear from him. maverick, the dog, is a hero. the four-legged pooch rescued an eight-year-old autistic boy who went missing from his portland, oregon home. crews say he found the little boy standing in a creek after he managed to climb through a somewhat difficult terrain. >> without maverick, there would have been a really long delay probable will he in finding him. maverick is the real hero. >> he is. the little boy was a little cold, but otherwise they say he was okay. and for his heroic work, maverick was rewarded with a toy. >> that's the best thing you can give a did you go. >> yeah. >> good job. >> very nice. >> thank you very much. it was exactly one week ago today donald trump was on this program. we were talking to him about the donald sterling situation. he referred to donald sterling's girlfriend, or whatever she is, a pal, as a girl from hell and also said donald sterling was disgusting. right after that appearance, donald trump went to twitter and he tweeted this out. quote, it is amazing that after lambasting donald sterling on "fox & friends," some dishonest press only reported my girlfriend from hell statement. donald trump joins us listen this morning. are you shocked at how selective the press can be when they want to make somebody look bad. >> the press is very dishonest. yes, there are great ones, but so much of it is totally dishonest and that was an incredible example. i knocked the hell out of donald sterling for five minutes. said what ad about guy, what horrible things he said. and i said just in passing and by the way, as the girlfriend from hell, and everybody laughed, which is obviously true. i mean, this girlfriend is taping him and with very bad intentions obviously. she's bad news. but what i really did was really knock him strongly and when the show immediately after i said it was all over thousandses and thousands of articles, all over the place. all over the world that i was defending him. nobody -- know, because i did it to you. but nobody was tougher on donald sterling than i was. but what they did is used the girlfriend statement like i was defending him by blaming the girlfriend, which was so dishonest. interestingly, about 20% of the press said wow, that's really dishonest reporting because we heard that and we checked the transcripts and he really went after donald sterling. nothing to do with the girlfriend. so reporters are really dishonest, especially political reporters. i've never seen anything like this. i've been in politics sort of all my life. but it's interesting as it came out that i was a conservative person. the way the press goes after you is disgusting. >> you were one of the first and one of the most harsh when it came to comments on donald sterling. the facts are the facts. >> let's see how many people actually correct the record now today. >> maybe none. but these are really dishonest people. huffington post is pathetic. you have some guy highway never heard of, he goes on the air action trump is defending sterling. anybody that read it or saw it, you know how tough i was. probably tougher than anybody. but these are really dishonest people and they shouldn't be -- you know, we should reinstate libel laws so you can go after people when they make egregious statements. but the libel laws in this country are ridiculous. >> if you google our names, you'll see similar things. let's follow benghazi. really moved last weekend. now we understand a special committee will be seated and naming the people. this weekend the democrats were going out of their way, congressman schiff and former congresswoman, there is no there there. they might sit out this election of the select committee. what's your sense on how they're handling it? >> the one thing i will say, benghazi seems to not have resonated other than on fox and a couple other groups. it hasn't resonated. in the last few days, it is starting to take a new life. , which is a great thing. because what happened was unbelievable. there is something that nobody talks about. they know who these killers were and they don't do anything about it. they don't go get them. i don't know how they don't go in and get them, but that's this country now adays, a weaker place, unfortunately. they know who many of the killers were and don't go in and get them. so benghazi has never resonatessed and it's starting to resonate. i have seen it over the last three or four days. maybe something is going to come out of it. >> you can run, but you can't hide from the truth. but there was truth that was not sought after, right? mr. trump, we're talking about a press here who was happy to go along with the story that it was a video that inspired these killings of our own. i think americans just want the truth. what do you think this will mean moving forward? will this end up haunting hillary moving into 2016 if she decides to run? >> most of the press, and the liberal press in particular, most of the press does not want to talk about benghazi and they want to protect anybody involved with respect toç benghazi, and it's sort of incredible. they are their own agenda. nobody ever understood why, but they certainly do. most of the press does not want to discuss benghazi. they're protecting many people. hillary happens to be one of them. >> you know, it kind of goes back to what you were talking about with the first point where they selectively edited what you said about donald sterling to make you look back and at the same time, it's not like they're doing anything other than simply avoiding benghazi. that way if nobody is talking about it, it's all about stonewalling and everything else, hoping that it will just go away, donald. >> i just say for your viewers, maybe this is the point that we should all make, it doesn't include you and maybe even you and in a certain way, who knows. all i can say is i have found the press to be among the most dishonest institution. i've never seen anything like this where they can take a story, knowing the truth -- i've had reporters tell me i know that, but nobody wants to hear that. in other words, they will knowingly write false stories. i have found it to be one of the truly dishonest institutions. now, with that being said, there are some great people in the press and some really talented people that are very honest. but there are tremendous numbers of very, very dishonest journalists. i hope your viewers, when they read things, will read them really thinking about that and with a grain of salt because the level of dishonesty is incredible. >> talk about honesty, you raised honest kids. ivanka was on with greta on friday and said this about what kind of president you might be. >> as an american, i would love him to run for president. he is incredibly smart, incredibly knowledgeable. he's had tremendous experiences which would prepare him for the challenge. as a daughter, it's more complicated obviously. it's a very tough life and the political one is a challenge. but i think he would be an absolutely phenomenal president. he has very strong viewpoints, but he always listens. >> she just wants you to run for president, become president so she can run the company. >> you're probably right about that. i just happen to have a daughter that loves me. what can i say? she's a great person. we're starting work and she's in charge of it. on the old post office on pen pennsylvania office. we have a really exciting company. she is really very outstanding and that's very nice that she said that. >> are you going to run? >> does that affect your decision? >> what i'm doing is time going to see what happens in november. we have a very important election coming up. you have a lot of things could change. obamacare is a killer for the country. you got to get rid of it. it's got to happen at some point. it starts with the senate, frankly. you got to see what happens there. i think the republicans are going to do very well because of obamacare. then you have to get a republican president because if you don't have a republican president, you're not going to end obamacare. it's going to be catastrophic. what it's doing to the economy is catastrophic. you saw some of the numbers come up. gdp growth, 0.1%, the lowest that i've ever seen. i've never seen that. then you look at china, it's 8 and 9%. i mean, china is eating our lunch. but the work force, if you look at the dropout rates, they're the highest that they've been in 38 years. so our country needs help. and somebody has to do it and that somebody has to be very special. if not, we're just not going to recover. >> donald trump joins us every monday at this time. thank you very much. we'll see you back here in a week. >> thank you both. >> thank you. soon a new season of apprentice. coming up, how is this for an attention grabber? >> i'm joany earnist. i grew up castrating hogs on an iowa farm. so when i get to washington, i'll know how to cut pork. >> okay. >> does that kind of humor really work? frank luntz breaking down the funniest prettial ads. >> an on line company for pay pal flies off the handle. what he said. ♪ ♪ wondering what that is? that, my friends, is everything. and with the quicksilver card from capital one, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase. not 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the name of the game with political ads. recent spots using humor to connect with voters. but does it work? joining us, frank luntz, he reveals which hit and which miss. before that, what kind of risk is comedy whether it comes to political ads? >> it's a significant risk. the benefit is that it draws attention to the candidate. it helps you remember the candidate's name and it usually works at the beginning when you've got someone who is unknown. but the danger, brian, is if it goes too far, if it's scene as frivolous and in this environments where people are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore, they really don't wants to laugh at politics. >> here is somebody not many people knew about. so she took that risk. u.s. senator candidate joany earnist out of iowa. >> i'm joany earnist. i grew up castrating hogs on an iowa farm. when i get to washington, i'll know how to cut pork. >> joany ernst, mother, soldier, conservative. >> my parents taught us to live within our means. it's time to force washington to do the same. to cut wasteful spending, repeal obamacare, and balance the budgets. i'm joany ernst and i approve this message because washington is full of big spenders. let's make them squeal. >> frank, do you approve of that message? >> no, first off, i'm never going to headache her hand based on what she does. secondly, she looks too happy. she looks like it's almost like a joke to her. and for the voters of iowa, cutting waste for washington spending isn't a joke. it's serious. if she had smiled a little bit less, if the joke had seemed more ironic rather than forced, she would have done better. >> a lot of people say she increased her name value when people saw it running it. we'll see. >> significantly. >> so the democratic congressional committee put out this ad. it's called sick and broke. >> government shut down game come sick and broke. the game republicans play. it starts from the moment you're born. roll the dice and see how you would do. go back two spaces. try again. if you're a lady, you're out of luck. double your premium. >> what? >> keep going. it has to get better. another $600. looks like no matter what you do, you lose when you play sick and broke. the game republicans play. >> it's about our life. what do you think? >> it works for democrats who like to make fun of republicans. it won't work for independents or republicans. once again, if it's not based on reality, it is not going to be successful in an environment that demands results, solutions, and demands answers. >> yeah. and by the way, go on line and you might have seen this. matt rosendale ad with the drone. you'll really think about surveillance and is everybody watching you. you like that? >> i do. it's shocking and draws everyone's attention. i don't think he wins. i think that's the kind of message that puts him on the radar. we're doing this all over the country go to luntzglobeal.com and you can dial the best ads of 2014. >> all right. you'll talk about 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for news by the numbers. 200,000. that's how many kids who say they're victims of bullying. they bought guns, knives, or clubs to school in the past month, according to the centers for disease control. $92 million. that's how much the amazing spiderman 2 raked in at the box office in its debut weekend, making it the number one movie in america. finally, 46. that's how old molly ringwald's character in "16 candles" would have been today because the movie premiered 30 years ago. seems like it was yesterday. well, it's been 20 years since actor gary sinise played lieutenant dan taylor in "forrest gump." >> now he's making it a mission in life to help real life wounded veterans and their families through the gary sinise foundation. >> he's here to tell us more about this cause. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> you're become more famous for what you do for the troops than even your acting. how do you feel about that? >> well, i've been spending a lot of time at it. there is a lot of need out there in the military community. i've met a lot of great people over the years. it's been a lot of time traveling the country and the world visiting our men and women serving and been involved for quite a long time. i know where the needs are. >> many in this nation and those veterans thank god you had that role in the film because you took it to the next level and do what you're doing now. your foundation ran a summit. what did you find out when you brought all the people together, how we can be impactful in helping veterans wounded? >> i started the foundation about three years ago after many, many years of being involved with a lot of different military charities and getting involved with our wounded back when i played lieutenant dan through the disabled american veterans. and so we're ramping up every year. we're doing a lot more. we have a great partnership with usc school of social work and we partnered up with them on this summit to try to bring community leaders, wounded veterans, educators, military, all kinds of people that are working in nonprofit, bring them all together and try to proceed addict where the needs are going to be over the next several years. >> what you're trying to do is close the gap between what the government provides and what we can all provide. >> and anticipate. there is a lot of residual effects from 13 years of war. we're going to be feeling those effects for many, many years to come. so we want to try to, in the nonprofit world, figure out where we're going to be most effective. >> sure. >> we've realized that community outreach is going to be very, very important in taking care of our veterans. if every community around the country just decided to take care of their veterans, every neighborhood, every town, every city, every community made sure we knew where the needs were in the community and take care of them, we'd have this solved. >> you have letters to the president saying hey, i got a -- you have pending claims as of february, close to 400,000 medical claims out there. one of the things you're to go is raising money through your foundation. what's coming up this weekend? >> yeah. this is a perfect example of communities taking charge to help their local veterans. we have a wounded veteran in lancaster, california, that i found out about. he's paralyzed. he's confined to a wheelchair missing his left arm of the he has limited use of his arm, traumatic brain injury. the local community, the kids at lancaster high school found out about him and wanted to help him. so they started raising money to build him a house. he lives if this very cramped little trailer. >> one of those smart houses? >> yeah. well, they wanted to build him a house where he could function in it. so he lives in a cramped trailer. so they started raising money. they raised $182,000, just these high school kids. and i found out about it and they need a lot more money. so i'm going to do a concert for them on may 10 in lancaster. we're going to bring him in. i'm going to have my band there. >> anyone can go? >> anyone can go. go to garyfisisefoundation.org to learn more. you can donate to help these wound soldiers all around the country. >> and juan dominguez is the name -- >> no, no, gerald hancock. you may have seen footage. juan dominguez, we built him a house and that's another great example of a community lending their support and taking care of their own. >> you built 27 separate smart homes for wounded veterans. >> we have projects going for about 27 right now. several are in their homes. others are under construction. some are in the planning stages. >> wow. >> great work. >> thank you very much. have a great weekend. hope a lot of people show up. >> i hope so. >> great to see you. >> coming up straight ahead, she's been all over the benghazi cover-up from the beginning. so what does former cbs reporter sheryl atkisson think about the latest bombshell? we're going to ask her that and a few 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has the latest on that for us. >> that's right. good morning. hello. it's a little bit on the cool side here across parts of the northeast and that's the story as well across parts of the upper great lakes and also into the pacific northwest. i want to take you where it's not cool and crisp. this is the area that it feels like summer today. we could be setting record highs across parts of texas, oklahoma, and even into kansas. oklahoma city, your high temperature today could reach 97 degrees. it's going to stay hot out there as we head into tuesday and also wednesday. the fire danger is high across parts of the southern plains and also into the four corners region and by wednesday, we could be tracking our next storm system producing some areas of severe weather across the center of the country. let's head back inside. >> it's that time of year. thank you very much. new benghazi e-mail revealing just how far the white house went to tailor its message about the attack in libya. so why are democrats still trying to spin the story into a partisan attack? former cbs news reporter sheryl atkisson covered the story during her time at cbs and joins us live. good morning to you. thank you for joining us. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> i was on your facebook page and i saw that one of the interesting things bret baier had tommy vietor on to talk about the e-mail i was referencing. what's interesting is he revealed that he himself was involved in editing the talking points, which flies in the face of what the top guy at the c.i.a., mike morell, said in sworn testimony in fronts of congress. now, one of the two of them is not telling the truth. >> when you run across apparent inconsistencies like that, we don't exactly know what's behind it, but it certainly does raise a red flag covering the story as a journalist. as you said, mike morell, the former deputy directsor of the c.i.a., testified last month before congress and written testimony and his verbal testimony that the white house did not make any sub tantive changes nor request any changes and in fact, he echoed what jay carney, the white house spokesman, said all along, which is the only change the white house made was changing consulate to diplomatic post. but if what tommy vietor said on fox thursday is correct, it's directly at odds with those proclamations from the other obama officials. >> right. it was the e-mail that blasted all this into a new realm here in terms of media awareness. david plouffe, who was on those e-mails, copied on there, he took on laura ingraham and she let him kind of have it here and i want to get your reaction to their he says it's just political. >> this has been politicized like we've never seen before. i think what's happening, richard nixon talked about a silent majority in 1968. there is a very loud delusional minority that's driving our politics that's in control of the republican party. there is no conspiracy here at all. >> what we know now from the e-mail is that from the beginning, the administration saw benghazi as a political problem. you're on that e-mail. you were the white house senior political advisor and this was a political problem. the politicizing was going on at the white house. that e-mail was clear evidence of it and the state department admitted in the new e-mail just released, sheryl atkisson had the report, that the secretary of state, assistants secretary of state, beth jones, said al-shariah responsible for this attack. why did -- >> in the rose garden -- >> why did he go to fund-raiser the day after? >> what is happening here and it's spoked by fox -- stoked by fox news. it's an amazing thing. >> you're masters at this. >> you say? >> well, the key words they use such as conspiracy and delusional are in my opinion, clearly designed to try to controversialize a store, a legitimate news story, to some degree, that's successful. but i think primarily among those that don't want to look at this as a story in the first place. but i see that as a well-orchestrated strategy to controversialize a story they really don't wants to hear about. >> it's interesting in the past, when something pops up that there is an ongoing investigation about, you had george bush say, i'm going to put a special prosecutor involved and he demanded everybody cooperate with the investigation. now you have someone who just puts up -- you have an administration who puts up blocking signs and goes after those asking the questions. we look at your background, you're hardly somebody who goes after conservative causes. you go after everybody. you went after the bush administration, you called it a bait and switch. you investigated the red cross in 2003. you're pursuing this story like everything elimination. how is the answer you're getting different from anything else? >> i basically am trying to keep my nose to the grind stone and if i were influenced by the left wing blogs and the people who are trying to steer public opinion a certain way, i would be left covering nothing but the weather now. i'm still continuing to do what i see as my job, but i can tell you that other investigative journalists have noticed the trend that you've mentioned. i was at a conference about a week and a half ago and these are reporters, pulitzer prize winners from the "new york times" and other publications who are all raising red flags about what the obama administration has done in terms of restrictions to press freedoms and they were saying things like we have to speak truth to power and stand up and take action. >> interesting stuff. can you stick around? we have more questions for you. >> okay. >> great. more with sheryl atkisson coming up in about two minutes. >> coming up straight ahead, dozens of veterans died waiting for care at the v.a. hospital. now the whistle blower says the cover-up was all about money. he will join us live straight ahead. and she plays a powerful washington, d.c. insider on "24". how kim 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just like anybody, a good idea can come from anywhere. and in general, i always considered media matters because of the direct coordination with the obama administration almost a defacto spokesman for the administration that could say things that sometimes the administration wanted put out there, but couldn't say directly because it might be seen a little bit as crossing the line. so in that instance, for that purpose, media matters could be helpful. >> sure. david brock was on the cnn media show a while back. he had this to say regarding you and other things. listen to this. >> we do work with reporters. we're a media watchdog up. >> you're saying you have a diverse number of donor, but they all have the same interest, don't they? same liberal politics at heart? >> sure. i think their interest is in honest journalism and afire debate. i think we think and i think our donors believe that the vast majority of cases of people get accurate information rather than misinformation, that's going to serve the progressive cause, sure. and we're open about the fact that we are a liberal organization. that doesn't mean our facts are wrong. >> and he was on to answer some of your claims that they work with you at cbs and things like that. then he went on to say, you do shoddy work. he's just taking a shot at you. they're not a watchdog. they're an attack dog, sheryl. >> the only kind of interesting thing about that is some in the media treat them as if they're some sort of neutral journalism organization rather than a clearly partisan blog and there are counters parts on the right that do similar things. but the media doesn't take the right wing questions, but they will embrace media matters position often and i would just say media matters doesn't bark at parked cars. i think the harder they come after me or other journalists, it's usually the more effective and often more well-awarded stories that i've done. in other words, they've been recognized by my peers as being 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joins us every monday morning at this time. good morning to you, bret. >> good morning. >> hey, our associate, catherine herridge, has got information that apparently a letter is going to go out later today where adam schiff, democrat, also nancy pelosi and harry reid will be asked to join the select committee to investigate benghazi. what else do we know about this letter? >> this is going to come from likely senators graham, ayotte and mccain and they have sent a lot of these letters about benghazi. this is not from speaker john boehner and his official list of who is going to be asked to be on this select committee. yet the point being that they'd like to see ideally both sides of the congress, on the republican side would like to see prominent democrats on this committee. the question is -- if you listen to adam schiff over the weekend, he's saying no democrat should join this committee and that puts people in an interesting spot. whether they say no to moving forward. we're expecting an announcement, official announcement from speaker boehner today likely and congressman trey gowdy could be the chair of that. >> when you say announcement just to have the guy who is going to head it all, trey gowdy, or everybody that he's nominating? >> no. i have think it would just be announcing the chair. remember, they have to have a vote on this to move it forward. but soon after the chair, i think you would get a list of who is being invited. >> sure. >> so after last week, we're going to take a little -- do. what was your reaction after speaking with tommy vietor? the exchange that occurred really sparked in the public eye, the curiousity and really the demand for truth once again when it came to benghazi and what occurred where the president was. we're going to let everyone listen and let you relive it and give us your reaction. >> did you also change attacks to demonstrations in the talking points? >> maybe. i don't really remember. >> you don't remember? >> dude, this was like two years ago. we're still talk being -- >> dude, it's the thing that everybody is talking about. >> we're talking about the process of editing talking points. that's what bureaucrats do all day long. >> credit to you for get not guilty there. but what were you really feeling and thinking right there? what do you think about hearing it now? >> let me just start by this, i went to the white house correspondents dinner over the weekend and alt the events around it and 32 people started the conversation with me saying, dude. so that just gives you a sense of where that sound bite went. but listen, i think that beyond tommy vietor and his reaction, there are clearly things to answer. remember that this thing is bigger than just that moment. there is a lot of what it was before the security. we talk about it. what was during the attack. not how fast did they get there, but was anything activated? three, the political, as republicans would charge, cover-up, the narrative before the election, and there is now a fourth act, which is there has been nobody who has been killed or captured as a result of this attack two years later. and where is that headed? >> bret, the other thing is a lot of people watching right now, doing a million things at the same time says what's going to be different about this select committee that is is going to be different from what we've been looking at for the last two years? what will be the difference in the format? >> the format will change dramatically in that you won't have congressmen kind of giving speeches for four minutes out of their five and asking a question that doesn't really get answered. it will be more coordinated, more pinpoint questioning, and you would likely see some of the witnesses that came up the last time come up again, but asked very different things in a different time format. so it enables that committee to kind of drill down on things that haven't been fully drilled down. >> one of the things i'm sure they're going to drill down on is something that was brought up on your program with tommy vietor and sheryl atkisson was talking to us about it a couple minutes ago where tommy told you that he, tommy, had made at least one change in the talking points. and that is completely different than what former c.i.a. top guy mike morell said under oath in front of congress. one of the two of them isn't telling the truth. >> the white house said forever that they didn't change anything. they only changed one word, from consulate to diplomatic facility. tommy in that interview, unless he was tremendously mistaken, suggested that he changed a couple of things and it was no big deal. listen, there is a focus on these talking points because this is this new e-mail from ben rhodes and we've talked about the significance of prepping the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. for those five sunday talk shows and the white house says it wasn't about benghazi. that doesn't really pass the smell test with reporters in the white house and all over. the important thing is what comes out next, because it's going to be new information that drives this story. not the rehash. i think there may be other documents. there is a d.i.a. document that will come out, we're told, very soon that also paints a picture of what they knew in the first moments of that attack. it's important to point out, brian, that these other committees had subpoena power, but this one will have subpoena power, but be more focused on the questioning. >> a lot came out during your interview. we also found out the president of the united states was not in the situation room, which is where we think when it hits the fan, that's the first place he goes. but the information came out this weekend that maybe he was too busy with debate prep to show up in the situation room. >> we don't know where the president was. we know he wasn't in the situation room, according to tommy vietor who was in there. and obviously a president can handle a crisis from other parts of the white house, but that was a fact that we didn't know two years ago. >> sure. great work, bret. >> thank you. >> see you next week, dude. heather childers has breaking news. >> headed to las vegas the next day for a fund-raiser. >> that's right. >> lots of questions still remain. we begin with this for you. breaking developments in the search for missing girl. we just learned british police are heading to portugal to start digging up three sites near that resort where she vanished nearly seven years ago. detectives say they plan to use radar equipment to search for new clues that portugese authorities may have missed. sources say they are not acting on a specific tip. made's 11th birthday would have been next monday. the united states joining in the in search for nearly 300 school girls kidnapped by islamic militantses in nigeria. secretary of state john kerry teling nigerian officials that the u.s. will offer security, communication and 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joining us with reaction to brought this scandal to light, dr. samuel foot. did you have a different view? >> absolutely. i have no idea what he was doing or where he got his information for his preliminary review. what he said was a slap in the face to all those families here in arizona who have lost loved ones during this crisis here in phoenix. and i would say to dr. petzle that he needs to go on the air with either cnn or fox network and explain what exactly he was trying to do and why he felt in the middle of a criminalized investigation he needed to announce the results of his, quote, preliminary findings and how did he get that information? did he call up sharon hellman and ask, how is it going in phoenix? i think the public really deserves to know. but you got to look at the situation. these veterane waiting on that list, they served their country honorably. their families deserve the truth. not another washington v.a. cover-up orstraighted by dr. petzel. he needs to resign again and this time leave the v.a. >> as far as you're concerned, you believe he's -- not only is he making that statement prematurely, he's covering his tracks? >> he did it to try to divert attention away and to try to play down this story. if he didn't do it, let's have him come on the air and tell us why he did it. i don't think he'll do that. >> what is he up to? is it so overwhelming with these number, he thinks it's okay to allow people to die and get off the list? >> i think -- the problem is that the v.a. implemented this system and they did it to phoenix at a time when we were already 7,000 patients in the hole, meaning we didn't have providers for that. it's a plan that promises ferrari like performance with a similar price tag at a time when our v.a. was struggling to provide basic chevy transportation. i protested vehemently that this was not going to work at the phoenix va because we were underfunded. we didn't have the resources or space. we didn't have the money and this placed an increased workload on the providers to do this job and follow this model. the v.a. for years has said every system is perfectly designed to get the results that it does. well, look at the mess in phoenix and ask yourself who designed that. that would be the washington v.a. micro managers. >> and what other questions and what other people would you like to see grilled in fronts of congress, forced to explain their actions? >> i think probably petzel and dr. lynch, who is the number three guy. i believe he's due here in phoenix and he's going to get a firsthand look. he was here last week. i don't know what all he did there. i think he just went to sort of a prearranged presentation of carefully picked people that hellman put him up in fronts of. but we have a criminal investigation here. we have the director, the associate director and the chief of has on administrative leave. criminal i.g. is here. they confiscated a ton of computers. i know a lot of people have said they don't have faith in the i.g. and i admit my faith was a little shaken in it. but the way they've approached it this time, they're definitely rebuilding my trust in them. i think the i.g. will get to the bottom of it and i think the v.a. is terrified of that because it will show that the model has been a failure. >> it's been a failure and a lot of people are doing things unsavory in order to get their bonuses. shows you there is a problem with the system. we know it's an early call for you today. thank you for joining us. we appreciate the message and the courage to come out. >> thank you very much for having me, brian. >> 18 minutes after the hour. we move ahead. liberal group talk political attacks taking -- taking political attacks to a disgusting new level after saying a wheelchair bound republican has no spine. and the candidate supporters are outraged at this hour. then, this business goes beyond money. it's tradition, art and beer. meet a man who is creating the best beer in the world and he's doing it all to continue his family's legacy. it's the latest chapter in our series, "my america." ♪ ♪ good job! still runnng in the morning? 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there is an old buddhist saying which is the journey of 1,000 years begins with the first step. i don't want to go back to the first step again. >> i think you're going to be pack up for a road trip after seeing some of that. 70,000 gallons of beer brewed a year there compared with 6 million from some of the bigger breweries. he wants to keep a slow pace. >> in other words, can i get it in i order it? can i get it -- can we bring did to maybe the friday concert series or something? >> it's just better there, you know. it's just better there. you can maybe order on line at some point, but i have to give them credit for keeping true to the family. and the beer is named after all of his ancestors. almost every type of beer has history of his family. maybe good summer trip for you. next time, my america heads south for the interstate mullet toss. no, we're not talking bad here. you heard of people out west throwing cow chips. down on the gulf coast, they throw mullet fish and it's something you've got to see to believe. a really fun story on the next "my america." >> unless you're the mullet fish, it's a fun story. >> sure. >> coming up straight ahead, horror at the circus. acrobats plunging 40 feet to the ground. >> not part of the act. coming up, we'll hear from two parents in the audience who caught it all on camera. >> and students, high school students forbidden from wearing american flag t-shirts today because it is cinco de mayo here in the united states. has political correctness gone too far? 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nothing wrong with patriotism, but lots wrong with antagonism. >> interesting there. tweet from rick says this. >> the american flag and american patriotism should never be restricted in america. god bless america. 365. i'm a genius. i would make a shirt and say i'm going to give you an option of wearing the american flag and the mexican flag in a split situation. you're charged $9 for the shirt and that money goes to the students council. >> look at you solving problems. >> does anybody else have a problem? i'll solve it. >> that would be great if it worked because it shows some unity. but keep in mind, we're in the united states of america. a lot of people died for that flag and for the courts to say no, you've got freedom of speech and expression, except today, that's a tough one to take. >> again, something that probably could have been handled within the school itself. brian, to your points, make you can toss that out and see if they'll implement it. >> i like the way he priced it out at 9 bucks. >> 9.99. >> all the shirts around here are 25 bucks. >> exactly. that's why it makes it such a great offer. i like the way elisabeth says i should put it out there. i think i just did. >> you need to follow it up. >> specifically to the school in writing, or tweet format. >> okay, fine. >> she's patriotic always. she's heather childers. >> yeah. i would wear one of those shirts, brian. >> thank you. nine bucks, it could be yours. 9.95. >> at this hour, investigators in rhode island are looking for clues this morning to figure out exactly how this circus stunt went so horribly wrong. >> you see what they were doing? the performers were actually hanging from their hair when they plummeted nearly 40 feet to the ground in front of a packed house. earlier on "fox & friends," we spoke with one of those families who was in the audience when it all happened. >> just kept saying, mommy, i hope the pretty girls are okay. i hope the rest of the ceiling doesn't fall on them. the whole ride home he just didn't understand why we couldn't stay until the ex tent of how hurt they were. >> can you imagine explaining that to your children? six people remain hospitalized. two are in critical condition at ringling brothers & barnum & bailey circus, they canceled the rest of the shows for the day and they will conduct an internal investigation to figure out what happened. sergeant andrew, the u.s. marine jailed in mexico on weapons charges, now speaking out from behind bars. mexican authorities found three guns inside his truck when he was mistakenly crossed into the border in tijuana. the sergeant is speak to go a newspaper reporter and says this: quote, i put my faith in god that he will take care of me. it was just a big mistake and i hope that the people there will realize that and the judge will realize that. california congressman huntser has written a letter to john kerry urging him to secure his release, but nothing has happened. he's being held without bail. to this group in maine under fire for just -- from just about everyone for this, an outrageous attack ad. it claimed republican representative dale craft had no spine and won't stand up to bullying. so what's the problem there? craft has been in a wheelchair for 26 years. the group, main peoples alliance, later said sorry. he systemed the apology -- accepted the apology. finally, ben affleck banned from playing black jack at the hard rock lava goes because he's too good. translation, may have been counting cards. the hotel let the upcoming batman star and his wife play other games. they even provided them with a car service back to their hotel. in 2001, he won $800,000 at the black jack tables at the very same casino. was he counting cards or just really good at the game? >> don't they have like, what, four or six decks in there? the casino said he was an advantaged player. >> yes. >> he's banned to the slot machines. >> if you can keep track where they are after you've had all those free drinks, god bless him. >> pretty smart. we're checking in with maria molina o to see what -- to see what it's like outside. >> it's a beautiful day out here. we have sunshine, temperatures slowly climbing here. still in the 50s. a little on the crisp side here across parts of the northeast, including new york city. i want to take you across parts of the southern plains because out there it is not crisp. it feels a lot warmer. it feels like summer with temperatures forecast to make it into the triple digits across western texas. we could be setting some record highs across parts of oklahoma with oklahoma city expecting a high today at 97 degrees. it's going to stay hot out there as we head into tuesday and also into wednesday. keep an eye out for that. again, hot temperatures feeling like summer out there across the southern plains. thjut hot temperatures are producing concerns across parts of the four corners region and also parts of the southern plains because it's hot. it's dry and also we're seeing gusty winds out there. so red flag warnings and also fire weather watches are in effect. eventually a storm system arrives come wednesday across the center of the country and we could be seeing some severe weather break out anywhere from texas up in through parts of the midwest. we'll keep tracking that next storm system. let's head back outside. >> back outside in tornado alley. thank you very much. next up, will the power of faith family and american luck win california chrome the triple crown? 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[ male announcer ] that's how we run, and nothing runs like a deere. visit your dealer or johndeere.com/1family. a race car driver losing total control on the track and flipping his car upside down. it happened in belgium. they're okay. and the flight path of flight 370 is getsing a second look. all the data recovered will be reanalyzed to make sure crews have been looking in the right place. next phase of the search will involve using the most advanced sonar equipment underwater. steve? >> thanks, brian. ladies and gentlemen, it's the all american story that only hollywood could create. how a mare purchased back in the day for $8,000 would become the 140th winner of the kentucky derby. >> if you know all the circumstances involving this horse, it's like a dream coming true. people don't realize. they sent me this text and they said the road to the derby and i said wow. yeah. and i said the road to the derby? i said, do you realize what kind of road that is? and it was like a miracle. i said, you must know somebody upstairs to be that lucky. he won all four races and then he won the fifth, the kentucky derby. it's a remarkable story really. >> it really is remarkable about the kentucky derby. peter johnson, jr. joins us live. so the horse, the mother of the horse is bought for $8,000 and people thought, no chance. >> and the father for $2,500. and now we have this multi million dollar horse, story of faith, family, and american pluffl. it go all the way to the triple crown? the first since 1978? these are regular folks that look like some of our relatives, that look like the people that we deal with every day in our lives. they took a bet on this horse. in fact, someone said when they were buying this particular horse, the mare, they said, that's a dumb ass move. so they named their company, the dumb ass partners. and so they've gone all the way, blown out kentucky big society, california big sit, all these multi-millionaires. they barely got a seat at the kentucky derby and now they're on their way perhaps to a triple crown. let's look. perry martin, 58 years old, lives in california. and owns martin testing laboratories where he works at 4:30 in the morning testing polymers and metals. then steve coburn, the heavy-stogie in the cowboy hat, he turned 61 the day of the derby. lives outside in nevada and works where they make magnetic strips for credit cards. so they were offered $6 million for 51% of the horse. he said by a middle eastern interest. they said we love this horse. we raised this horse. we're not giving him up. >> that is fantastic. it is like a hollywood movie. forget with sea biscuit. this really happened. >> this really happened. they're saying can we win the belmont stakes? yes. can we win the preakness? yes. did this horse have the breeding that others spent 4 or 5 or $600,000 for? no. we had a dream. we have some luck. we have art sherman, 77 years old, the oldest trainer in american history to win the derby. and they said, if we took the $6 million or another $2 million for the mother of this horse, we'd give up our interest in this incredible moment. and we love this horse and we want to be part of it and this is our unique american story. these are regular people who are making it big because of faith, they're big faithful people. these two couples together on this small investment relatively, and fortuitousness, luck. they say, we have american luck and we've got pluck and we're taking it all the way and you millionaires, you're not going to take it away from us. we're winning. >> what a great story. even though millions and millions of dollars dangled out in fronts of them, they said no. that would be like selling part of the family. >> absolutely. they said, we used to make cookies and brought cookies to the kentucky derby for the horse and said, we feed them all the time. he's part of our family. this is an incredible story. >> it is indeed. >> i'm rooting for these folks. >> no kidding. who isn't after that? >> california chrome, go, baby, go. >> thank you very much. >> best way to begin the week. >> no kidding. we got another one for you. what's jase robertson like when the "duck dynasty" cameras aren't rolling? he's joining us to share a side of his life you have not seen before. there he is outs on the fronts porch. but first let's check in with martha mccallum who is on the front porch to her studio. >> good morning. we expect we could get an announcement of this benghazi select committee as early as today. the latest on who will head it, what we are now learning about that today. new information there. and also will democrats boycott that investigation? and another state now has v.a. problems. a frightening scene at the circus when an act goes horribly wrong. new information there as well when bill and i see you at the top of the hour awesome, amazing, that's epic, bro. whatever happened to good? good is choosing not to overshoot the moon, but to land right on it. good is maxwell house. ♪ good to the last drop he's a robertson family funny man known for his straight face and sense of humor. >> i have my own duck caller in my body. >> really? >> is that a duck? >> that's static in a radio. >> call your wife. >> it worked. >> i love that missy. guess what? he's not all jokes all the time. this morning jase robertson is giving us a behind the beard look at his life and his new book "good call," reflections on faith and family. good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> this has been a tough day for you. tell us what's happening there at your house, reed got on the bus and what is the significance of today? >> well, today is his last day of school. we actually didn't -- he didn't get in the bus. he got on his vehicle. i could tell missy, my wife, she was having to fight back the tears. it's a big day, your last day of school. we're proud of him. >> he's going on to college, right? >> yep. going off to college. >> is that a lot what this book is about? >> well, the book is about relationships and decisions, you know. life is full of choices and decisions. i made some good ones and some bad ones. i share all, but really i'm hoping to inspire people to make good calls in life that help their relationships. >> in the book you talk a lot about parenting and learned a lot about the way. one being you thought at one point you were too hard on reed, trying too parent him the way you were parent. is it ever too late to make that decision to change how you're to go things with the kids do you think? >> i got some of the greatest advice ever when a buddy of mine, i was talking to him about reed and i was like, i don't know what's wrong with this boy. i was trying to figure it out. and he was like, look, i love you, you know. we're friends, but i think you're being too hard on him. and i was like, what are you talking about? i'm trying to help this boy out. and the more i got to thinking about it, i was like, you know, i think i am being too hard on him. and the day that i kind of backed off, all of a sudden he had a complete transformation. i think that's what's interesting about having kids. they all have different personalities and you try to figure out what's the best way to train them up so that they can be their best and in his case, it was more back off, let'sing him learn on his own and just being there when he needs me. that's what we did. it was a great decision. >> sure. we've actually got a picture of you and your family back pre-beard, back in the day. oh, my goodness, look at that. there you are right there. it's interesting, faith figures largely in this particular book. but when you think about it, when you're out in a duck blind, you got a lot of time to do some thinking. you've done a lot of thinking about god and family and faith. >> yeah. well, i think that's what i bring to the table is in a way i'm thankful that i wasn't raised in a church setting because i just look at life as being real and the first time i went duck hunting, my dad had recently changed his life. he had gone through this incredible transformation. i'm out looking at the beauty of creation and i'm here with a bunch of other guys and we're having meaningful talks about life. i realize i need to look into whoever created this planet and i just couldn't get past the design. it's really where i have my first thoughts about god and life and true fashion was in a duck blind. >> that's when everything was quiet. now you have quiet type of family fame and your show is through the roof. good luck with your book. i'm sure it will be a best seller. jase robertson, thanks so much. >> bye. >> thanks for having me. good job! still runnng in the morning? 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precautions? >> reporter: we just heard from the secret service and they are ordering a comprehensive review. a physical assessment of the site and personnel and will be submitted to homeland security secretary jay johnson and along pennsylvania avenue, security has been enhanced and the white house is writing in part, the president has full confidence in the secret service and grateful to the men and women who protect himself and his family and the white house. julie. >> what is the mood there now? >> reporter: security has been heightened just on the heels of what happened last night. we have seen the man charging the white house doors and visitors who are looking for a photo of the white house and met with screaming guards and incidents of a similar nature ended abruptly because of an alarm alert. and dog units are typically released and the dogs were not let loose tonight and today security and the plaza in front of pennsylvania avenue was closed for a couple of hour us due to another security scare. around 3 o'clock new jersey man, kevin carr attempted to enter the barricade. they arrested carr and he was charged with unlawful entrow. >> the white house has seen a number of security attempts. you may remember back in 2009. michael and trexall slipped past two secret service checkpoints for a official state dinner. and one man fired 30 rounds from a semi-automatic rifle and one bullet hit a window and another man crashed the small plane on the white house lawn. that man died but no one in the white house was hurt. i will be speaking to former secret service agents that protected george bush and barak obama. and the manuio> who killed trooper and wounded another is leading the police in the swamp land. police are closing off cabins and other structures. people in the area warned to stay indoors as the manhunt heats up. this is after shots were fired near by. 31-year-old fren is a survivalist with a grudge against law enforcement. brian, what are you hearing about today's search. >> reporter: julie, police are silent on the search details. they believe freed may have access to new's reports. checkpoints are set up in the neighborhood where he has been hiding since thursday. we don't know how large the search area is. swat team members and men in cammo and search dogs are entering in the neighborhood and they are thoroughly searching cabins and vacation homes in and around the neighborhood. it is about a mile away where he lived with his parents in his home and 25 miles away from where he ambushed two state troopers and killing one. and shots were heard in the neighborhood. we don't know if they were exchanged with him. people were told to stay indoors and away from windows and the police are urging the same today. some residents are staying in shelters and some in the cars. the community is made up of hunters and they know how hard a search here can be. he's from around here and knows the woods and knows where to hide and where to go. they are searching an area whether he's outnumbered or not, he has an upper hand because he knows the woods better. i hope they catch him soon so we can go back to our lives and go back home. >> it is night fall and a gunman that knows the woods is still on the loose. >> what more do we know about freen. >> reporter: he is known to have taken part of cold war elements. and a skilled marks man and a top member of the rifle team. his father said he is a better marksman than he was and he doesn't miss. he's believed to have a grudge against law enforcement, but we don't know the specifics. he is on the top ten mostdçi÷ wd list and a 175,000 award is information to lead to an arrest. >> thank you so much. in the fight against isis as the white house continues to build the coalition. the pentagon confirmed five more air targets inside of iraq. and news of more territorial gains by kurdish forces against isis. fighters recanturing a bridge and military bridge near the northern city of irbil. turkey has secured the release of 49 hostages held by militants. they were held captive since the consulate was overrun. they were greeted by a huge crowd in turkey today. here's more from the mideast. >> turkey's used their own methods to çsecower the releas of 39 consulate workers. he would not elaborate. the hostages reunited with their families earlier today. they were held since june 11th when they were over run. whether their release changes syrian kurds in the past 24 hours. turbish officials say the borders open to refugees are secured to keep isis militants out and possible fighters from leaving. but there are reports that isis is rekrauting mill tans in the country. they are continuing to hold britishfa÷ aide worker. but abumohammed called for the man's release and said islam forbids harming nonmuslims that are aid workers. but they said military action should not be the only action but a comprehensive strategy confronting militants in the middle east julie. >> thank you so much. as our strategy isis intensifies there is report of we should have left troops in iraq. we'll try to read your answers later in the program. rightyé"0z now, the hunt is on five escaped inmates and where they may be today and why police are calling them armed and danger. a person of interest after a quest of the missing student. what investigators are now saying about her disappearance. ? i have bayer aspirin. i'm not having a heart attack, it's my back. i mean bayer back & body. it works great for pain. bayer back & body provides effective relief for your tough pain. better? yeah...thanks for the tip! whenwork with equity experts who work with regional experts who work with portfolio management experts that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. >> armed and dangerous. that's the word for police on escaped inmates who broke out of jail near fres no, california. all five are gang members. juan lopez held for robbery and attempted murder. and the local anditate and federal agents are helping for the search and asking if you have information on the men, call the madera county sheriff's office. >> a quiet college town on edge asç a search for a missing student enters the second woke. hannah graham was seen walking alone. a person of interest was seen walking behind her on surveillance video. the police chief is pleasing for more information. leland joining us now. hi, julie this is the last place she was seen on surveillance tape. it was a busy pedestrian mall and the same place they got surveillance images of a man six feed with dread locks and saw him 1:15 put his arm around hannah graham and lead her to a restaurant and after searching him police don't have enough information to make an arrest. >> you live in the city of charlottesville and attend the university of virginia and if that young lady touched your life, you have a responsibility to help us find her. >> students are taking that responsibility sourcely and giving up their saturday to come out and search not only for hannah graham but any type of evidence that issoused in this case. >> not only it happen so close to me and where i live. and i was walking home alone all of the time. >> reporter: police brought out scent dogs to figure out where hannah graham and that suspect went. the jowlry store is where the surveillance tape comes in where you last see hannah on tape. obviously now trying to solve that mist row where did she go next. >> i will be hopeful until we find hannah. >> reporter: going forward they don't have new leads right now to go on for the search. but they are looking at a couple of things. one is electronic records and something from the the cell phone. she sent a text message saying she was lost to a friend and they are going to try to triangulate the records and figure out if her cell phones hid other towers. >> i can't imagine what the two weeks. there is a history of the disappearances there. do police think they are connected? >> reporter: there is a history. five girls in the past five years disa pored and one of those girls was found dead. you have to understand the history that goes into the town here, we have seen two of the mothers have been here in the vigil and press conferences and trying to provide comfort to the graham family. often types only parents of people who lost child know what the graham are going through as they are waiting through the days and weeks that their daughter is missing. one law enforcement person put it every hour that goes by it locks worse. >> thank you very much. a mother makes a desperate plea for her son's life. what she is saying. and cabbo san luca s after being devastated by a category hurricane. people are hoping to stop the ram pant looting. would happe. if energy could come from anything? or if power could go anywhere? or if light could seek out the dark? what would happen if that happens? anything. kaba6tg when you compare the top speed of 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presidential detection provision for president bush and president obama. he is a candidate for republican congress in maryland. very disturbing news first of all. two instances in the white house in 24 hours. the statement said the president has full confident in the secret service. the secret service own director ordered an investigation. saying location was not acceptable. >> no question, this is definitely a failure of the security protocol. and what i find surprising and the director and everybody else in the secret service, it is not a simple security plan. when this individual jumped the fence, everything seen and unsewn there, he managed to get through all of them. and the ira once said when they tryed to kill margaret thatcher. we only have to be lucky once and you have to be lucky every day. the secret service was lucky he didn't have a weapon and the intruder was lucky he jumped over the fence that exact time. it was a poroutcome fori]w both >> but the secret service officer did not shoot because he could tell he was not armed. how could he tell he didn't have a gun. >> in law enforcement. only thing that shoots is foots and hands. you can see their hands they don't have a weapon. how do we know he didn't have one in his waist band. but the secret service are not endowed with powers. it is a law enforcement officer like anyone else. it doesn't mean he can takedown a subject because he thought he they are subject to the same rules and regulations and we saw with the incident with the car and engaged with the shooting. the car was engaged in trying to hurt someone. >> representativecn chavez told the fox producer that secret service should shoot all white house jumpers. you jump the fence you get shot and that sends a message. should the white house shoot the intruders. >> we are not allowed to shoot fence jumpers. we are federal agents and responsible for protecting the constitution and not trampling on it. now having said that. there are common sense security measures enhancements going to take place. and altering the fence and making it difficult to cloim. we have had the battleftjx with staff eons. and listen the president needs to be accessible to the public but not invite a fence jumper. you and i could jump the fence. it is not that difficult. it is time to enhance the fence. >> i am sorry, for this to happen in two times. this never happen in my building. i am more confident here than the secret service there. the prisoners have a harder time escaping from prison. you should not be able to jump the fence at the white house. secret service admitted to mistakes. and that can't happen or you wind up with dead president. and what if bad guys jumped the fence and they didn't shoot and had explosives. then what? >> circumstances that have to play and that is the difficulty with law enforcement. you have to make split judgments and people jumping the fence. if they have a gun they are usually shooting. it is not a easy job. and they are not endowed with special powers. sometimes they wish they were. but they are not. they have to follow the rules of engaejment and rules of force. keep in mind, too, julie. we have had hundreds of fence jumpers of this mag to youed. i am not absolving them of responsibility. they have had a lotw;ç! of suc mitigating the threat. >> the one that pulled up in the car and ignored security. unlawful entry that is like a slap on the wrist. >> they stopped him and he was in the vehicle trapped and the security plan worked for the second incident. dan, thank you 0 much. we appreciate your insight. >> thank you, julie. >> and contractors play a huge role in the the u.s. military. they do the dirty work and fly under the radar. as the debate in washington rages with bootskád0j)q ground. one component of the america's national securitiability. private security contractors, it is basically, there is all different facets of. it for us protection case officers overseas and doing low profile protection. >> cooks and drivers and maintenance people and body guards, contractors are taking over duties traditionally performed by troops. contractor duties can run up to the edge of a combat soldier. >>a4oíw there are no limits exc offensive air or ground combat operations. virtually anything else with legal authority contractors canç perform the mission. >> mark and chris are contracto contractors subjects of the bock of what happened in benghazi. it is difficult to distinguish their duties from a soldier. >> it is military discharge and i didn't know what i wasoto#÷ g to do. it was a way for me to continue to work and still have a job, but do what i like doing is soldiering and rangering. >> pay is better than soldiers. more. the federal government reloys on contractors and dod contractors tripled from 2,000 to 2008. and the use of contr8kj?u offering advantages and allowing agencies bypass military chain of command and what boots on the ground means. >> the white house will 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"hardball" starts right now. scare tactics. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." scare. let's play "hardball." sa good evening. i'm chris matthews up in new york. let me start with this preventive war being waged on hillary clinton. it's right out in the open now. from benghazi and nigeria, all the forces of the right are closing ranks to attack their common enemy for 2016. bill krystal, the iraq war field marshall of the home war has waged war on her title, secretary clinton. rabd paul has said to relish his direct line of attack on clinton, and now marco rubio looking for any chance to line up with the far right attack squad is joining the charge against the former first lady. some think this is preventive war, a nasty line of fire to scare hillary clinton from evening entering the presidential race. this is just the beginning, they're saying, of what we're going to throw at you. the second you throw your hat in the ring. if you don't like the heat, they're channelling harry truman here, stay out of the kitchen. well, this dreadful cam feign of personal attack suck succeed? will it drive the democrats' best hope from the field even before the battle? or will it shape the battlefield once he enters it, putting her on the nasty defensive from the day and hour she formally announces? that's all for history to decide. right now in may of 2014, the right is ganging up, turning its flame throwers on the person they expect to face an open rivalry. but a target they can hit now with impunity, knowing shellacs the quick reacting war room that served bill clinton so well when he first ran for president. the hard question tonight is the american right softening up its target for 2016? or is it simply putting its fears on display, building uphillry clinton while it tries to level her? in either case, some of the same people who brought you preventive war in iraq are bringing you preventive war with hillary clinton. two great guests with a question. howard and stephanie, this week i began to notice the order of battle here. all of a sudden, all the guns, au all the action, all the negative all the blame game is not going to barack obama so much but the next person they think they' got to hit. even nigeria. i want to start with these nigerian pictures. let's start with this picture which i think is going to enflame this country. all these are young girls taken hostage and god knows what future they face. maybe some have already been forced into marriage out there. when the papers are picked up tomorrow morn, the american people are going to see these faces and they're going to be mad. the republicans want them to be mad at hillary clinton. your thoughts? >> there's no question, chris. what they're doing is what's known in the political world as pre-buttal. they're trying to get the narrative of hillary clinton's time as secretary of state out there in the public mind in the way they want to before hillary clinton herself comes out with her own account in the book she's been writing called "hard choices." hillary clinton knows for sure that her time as secretary of state is going to be a key factor and a big argument in her campaign for the presidency. i don't think she's scared by it at all. and i don't think that if she doesn't run that that will be the reason. i don't think they're going to scare her out of the race. but this essentially is campaign time. we're already function nationally in a presidential campaign between the forces that you mentioned, everybody from rush limbaugh to alan west to marco rubio to the national review to rand paul. they're all in a presidential campaign against a woman who has yet to say for sure that she's running. >> are you surprised at the earliness of all of this? here we are. i'm going to say the end of the show, i i think she'll announce for president maybe a year from now, may of next year. so early to hit her. but is it unfortunate for her that she's being hit so hard now when she doesn't have a war room? she doesn't have a george steph not -- stephanopolous or james carville. >> the republicans have been out of power for eight years by the time this presidential campaigni campaignished. and they are desperate to wingback the white house and they know that one significant person stands in their way, and she hasn't even decided to run yet or not. and so they are throwing out everything they can. and i have to say this personally, i am disgusted by the fact that they are using a national tragedy for political benefit to themselveses. >> you're talking about nigeria? >> and benghazi. hearings after hearings, after hearings. the secretary released a report which is a rare thing to do, to be fully transparent. she's been nothing but forth coming. and here they go again. not only are they doing more hearings, which is fine. but to use it for political benefit and to raise money around it? i mean, this is how desperate these guys are. and i'm a political operative. i've managed some campaigns. i know that you attack the strength of your opponent, and that's exactly what they're trying to do here. >> the new charge from the right that hillary clinton bears responsibility for those kidnapped girls over in nigeria are based on her time at the state department. here's going gipg goinewt gingr. he's always an opportunist. hillary clinton's leadership at as secretary of the state regardiregard ing nigeria. he said it's indefensible that they didn't name boko haram a terrorist group. by the way, newt gingrich, the fact is they named the three top leaders to the terrorists. meanwhile, andrew mccarthy wrielting in the national review, mrs. clinton, like the obama administration more broadly believes appeasing islami islamists, avoiding actions that might give them offense, slamming americans that provoke them, support peace and stability. hillary clinton's tenure at the state department was a disaster. more ridiculous still, listen to what rush limbaugh said just today. >> the boko haram leader or whoever, that performed on video is a good looking guy. this is why mrs. clinton wouldn't call this group a terror group. because they're black. can't afford to do that. this is how surface conscious the left is. we can't call them terrorists because they look like african-americans. and we just can't go there. >> i have never heard more hogwash in 30 seconds. i've got to stephanie, a female, a woman. he accuses hillary of having some sort of sexual attraction or romantic attraction to the head of boko haram. this gets a little odd here. he's good look, he's black and he looks like an african-american. i didn't get a good look at the guy. i don't know what to say? sexism, weirdism? limbaughism. he's good looking? what is that? how do you get that out of this pictu picture? >> it's shocking. the republican, they have nothing to say so they're going to the bottom of the bottom here on attacks, pulling anything they can out. because the truth is, everybody knows that her tenure as secretary of state was excellent. and on the record, you know, month after month since she left, folks have been talking about how great of a leader -- >> does she need a war room right now? doesn't she need somebody to defend her, even if she doesn't run? >> the republicans are going too far. and the american people are seeing that. >> doesn't she need a war room right now? make news. doesn't she need a war room? i always thought the war room was one hell of a documentary on politics. george and jams and those guys did a great job of firing back. instant response, first responders. we've learned from dukakis. if you don't throw the crap back fast, it absorbs. your throughooughts as a campai manager? >> there's no campaign yet. >> should there be a war room? >> she's got a lot of friends out there that are out speak on her behalf. she's going to go out there and talk about her book. >> even a great book can't stop this. she'll d a great job with the book, i know she will. but they'll have two more things on the road to throw at her. your thoughts. >> since i'm not a campaign operative and just an observer and a reporter who's covered a lot of campaigns, i know that attacks unanswered are to some extent attacks accepted. and i said a little earlier, chris, that this is functionally already a presidential campaign so i guess i would have to say eni would say that she does need more loud and vig louse and specific and caustic defenders. is what limbaugh and others are doing is playing with deep fears and resentments in the american public and they need to be called out on it by people who have respect in american society. what they're doing is saying hillary clinton is an appeaser. you heard that comment. she's an appeaser of islamics. she's soft on this stuff. she thought that soft power and nice words are going to make ware way into the world. which really isn't hillary clinton's world view, really. >> she's a fighter. >> and she has to have people answering for her on that. i know she doesn't want to do it herself. >> okay, we've got to go. >> to make your points, and to make a point to stephanie, too, how serious this is. more examples now. this is all just brand-new stuff now. marco rubio had some very tough words for her. let's listen to him. >> i'm sure he's going to go out. [ ing about her time in the state department. she's also going to have to be responsible for the failures in russia or benghazi that cost lives. >> what do you give her as a grade? >> i don't think she gets a passing grade. if she's going to run on her record as secretary of state, she's ultimately going to have to answer for its massive failures. he's the fuhrest politician i've ever seen, by the way. senator rand paul went after benghazi. here's more paul. >> this is about judgment. and we eke talking about should we as a country have a commander-in-chief who didn't provide adequate security in libya, didn't send re-enforcements and then gave us nothing but spin? my opinion is that hillary clinton has preclauded herself from ever being considered from that position. bill crystal seems to be declaring war on her whole role as secretary of state. >> let's have a debate on secretary of state in the united states hillary clinton. what happened in libya? we intervened. i supported that. i think adam did, too in thorly 2011. what happened in libya over the next year such that benghazi got to the situation that it was at. >> bottom line, what do you think the impact of this early a tack and perhaps lentless attack from here on out is going to mean for secondary clinton and her ability to run. >> she's going to make her decision, you know with a lot of factors in this. and she's been through this fire before. it's not like she hasn't been attacked before. what we're really going to start seeing is voters who are just disgusted by these nonstop attacks. particularly by a republican party that refuses to stalk about anything the voters actually care about. and 2014 is here. we have an election in november where the voters and everything i have seen, and i'm sure they've seen the same polling is about economics, economic opportunity, equal pay for women and minimum wage. they're so afraid of her they're trying to get her out now. and their attacks are just not going to work. >> they can also be effective even if they're scared. sometimes you're most effective if you're scared. >> i think attacked work. you have to throw it right back in their face or you lose. the faster of that was bill clinton. thank you howard fineman. coming up, can marco rubio as a member of the republican know nothings, the science deniers. he says he doesn't believe humans are causing global warming. doesn't believe that these scientists, he calls them have conclud concluded. he's trying to make his bones with the right. plus, rand paul has some advice for his party on alleged voter fraud. go ahead and pass voter id laws. just stop talking about it. people are on to you. and the wild cards, the senate race, democrats who have something to sell besides just being democrats. some good democratic candidates out there are making tougher for republicans than many people had expected. and back to climate change. the new sunday show, john oliver takes on the science deniers. >> the only accurate way to report that one out of four americans are skeptical of global warming is to say a poll finds that one out of four americans are wrong about something. anyway, this is "hardball" the place for politics. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. 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>> i do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our climate the way these scientists are portraying it. i do not believe the laws they propose we pass will do anything about it, except it will destroy our economy. >> well, between gulps of water, maybe rubio ought to think once in a while. the right wingers exploded in his work with democrats to pass an immigration reform bill in the senate. looks like he's been trying to win them back ever since and it looks like he's willing to do or say anything to do it. the former deputy communications director of al gore's presidential campaign. i think al gore, he can be a little odd now and then. he was very good at teaching us about an inconvenient truth. and the idea that a candidate of some education, like marco rubio, probably had a good education, comes out and just blanky plays know-nothing. plays stupid for the american people. you run for president of the united states by saying you don't understand or believe in science? what does he believe in if not science? does he have some other way of knowing things? explain. >> it sounds to me, chris, that he is -- what he blooes in is marco rubio is becoming president or getting a political future. that's what he believes in. >> he will say anything. >> and the problem for the republicans is they are basing their future on an ever shrinking part of the american electorate. people who maybe are upset because, you know, there are gay people in the nfl and black people get to be president. >> how does that fit into climate change. >> all of that. what happens with young people in particular, you've got 735% of young people believe that climate change is real, 66% of them believe it's real. 75% of them believe that it is manmade. human beings are doing something about it. how do you have a future of a party when you believe the things that the people who are going to pop late that party in the future just don't believe in. >> but the republican members are pretty bad on this. there is a lot of rejectionism here. i think blindfolded rejectionism. they don't want to believe in science, in a lot of areas, but especially now climate. >> chris, only 1 out of 10, 1 out of 10 tea party republicans believe climate change is happening and that it's human induced. that means 9 out of 10 -- >> eex plain the psychiatrist of this. >> climate change skeptics. i think it's because uh become associated with liberals, like al gore and, of course, barack obama who they detest. i mean, george w. bush, republican president didn't do much about it, but he accepted the notion, eventually, took him a few years into his presidency, to accept the notion that climate change was real and something should be done about it. his old man, of course, started off by going to rio and saying in the 1990s and saying we should do something about it. >> everything we believe in, you could get in here jamal in a moment. everything we believe about the doctors we go to, the scientific method, the notion of biology, the whole idea of, you know, evolution, everything is based on. how can they just deny science? do they have some other belief system than science? >> it's the same thins as creationism? it's the -- >> you can argue for creationism and still accept evolution. you can say that's the way god did it. >> people are out there denying science. it's like don't tell me what's going on there. it gets in the way of what i want to think, what i want to believe. they associate climate change and concern with climate change with a political enemy. as they see it. and they also have a conspi conspiratory notion liberals are doing this to raise taxes and other things. >> as david started out to say, father bush, george h.w. bush wasn't so bad on this. i remember talking to roger porter who taught me when i was in graduate school way back. they talked about cap and trade. it was considered a sort of conservative way to go after dealing with some of these problems. and now the republican party has just moved a market-based way. now for the politics, has moved so far to the right, they can't even acknowledge science and fact and numbers. and that's the thing that's going to get them in trouble when it comes time for these new voters. >> it fits into a pattern. by denying climate change he's playing to a powerful force on the hard right. more than 55% of congressional republicans are climate change deniers. and it gets worse from there. they found that 77% of republicans on the house science committee say they don't believe it in either. and that number balloons to an astounding 90% for leadership in congress. and here's how james inhofe talks about climate change. he's on the senate committee on the environment. let's listen. >> the assertion that global warming is occurring today, that it's occurring because of the relief of co2 and methane and such as that, that's not a -- those people are -- it's really a hoax. the fact that all this is happening is due to manmade gases, i really believe is the ever hoax ever traited on the american people. >> there's an oil patcher talking. rubio himself has charged hard to the right in recent months. that's no accident. last june, rubio helped lead the senates of the gang of eight so-called to lead a bipartisan reform bill. it backfired on him in spectacular fashion, prompting the hard right to call him a traitor. so in july, rubio made sure to prove himself by leading a house bill to ban apportions after 20 weeks. in october, he came out against his own immigration legislation. this january, he called for a senate probe on benghazi which brings us to yesterday when he denied man's role in climate change. what is this? is this him trying to make his bones, david, as we say in the mob. you've got to make your bones, go out and kill a bunch of people, prove you're willing to do anything? >> it seems that way. before the immigration debacle, he was considered a leading tea party candidate. a leading contender for 2016 and he just completely botched it. >> by doing one good thing? >> he watched rand paul and ted cruz get all the tea party hoorays. and he's been desperate since then. this guy comes from florida. he represents florida in the u.s. senate. every assessment of what will happen to climate change points to florida as one of the key parts of our country that would be the hardest hit by climate change. so people down there ought to be paying attention to what he's willing to sacrifice for his own political prospects. >> by the way, just so everybody knows, what you're talking about is that miami, just about a few feet above the sea level down there. big climate change, which means the water level of the ocean goes up, florida, especially miami begins to go under water. it's a big deal, as you point out. up next, a real television debate -- well, a real one sort of, over climate change. this is "hardball" the place for politics. 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you're asking the entire electorate in your state to say yes to a democrat in the year people don't feel like doing that. >> i think it's hard for democrats to hold on to the senate. but we're not set yet. a lot of things can happen in six months. if you just have a year that's not that great for democrats, but not truly a wave year, then you could see some of these senators hang on. although these were -- senators elected in 2008. barack obama was a big boost to them. it's been clear to them for at least four years that's not going to be a case when they're running for this next term. they've had time to distance themselves from the president on issues. >> some states have made an investment in some of these people. begich is second generation. the families have become part of the fabric of those states. they can get through the wind. your thoughts? >> there's two ways of looking at it. i think republicans would essentially say, sure there are name, but that's not going to help them in state where is it's very hard to cobble enough democratic votes to get to 50%. to your point, chris, these are no-names. it's hard to to say this person is just a rubber stamp for president obama. if that is true, the senator we should be talking the most about is kay hagen in north carolina. if it winds out being you have deep roots in the state or not, kay hagen is different than landrieu or pryor. >> isn't keystone going to be a great opportunity for separation politics here? mary landrieu and begic would say i'm with keystone, i'm sorry that's what i believe in. that could separate them from obama because he's probably going to be against it. that could help them be re-elect popped. >> i definitely think you're going to see democrats take that position. look at senator pryor in arkansas. this is the second respected public poll that shows him 11 points up over tom cotton. that is a real lead. that's not like a lead of one or two points that you really count as a tie. and mitch mcconnell despite the long history in that state, he continues to be head to head in a race for the candidate. >> do you think he's reached his sell-by date? he's not a family connection. he's just mitch mcconnell, politician who's got a lot of clever moves. has he ran out of moves? >> i think that's what we're going to see. i think it's due to people in kentucky not really approving, not really liking mitch mcconnell. he has to overcome his unfavorable ratings. . >> mitch mcconnell only has a few tricks to call on people. i've seen this guy make so many moves. i've had it with him. your thoughts? >> look, at this point, it's essentially unknown. she's run very few adds. people may know her last anytime. her father is an active politician. she's basically an unknown. the vote she's getting is the i don't want mitch mcconnell anymore vote. it's kentucky in a midterm election. harry reid in 2010. harry reid had the same problem mcconnell had, which was he was totally well known and not well liked. i don't think you write him off. it's a harder race than a lot of people think. >> thank you, chris. there's no other i am totally blind. i've been blind since birth. i lost my sight to eye disease. i lost my sight in afghanistan. and it doesn't hold me back. but my blindness can affect my sleep patterns. i go through periods where it's hard to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. but i learned that my struggle was with non-24. non-24 is a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70% of people who are totally blind and can't perceive light. talk to your doctor about your symptoms, and learn about non-24 by calling 844-844-2424. that's 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. now i know that non-24 is real. and i'm not alone. it's time for a new day. whatever happened to good? 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>> i think it's a mistake. i've done the opposite. i testified in kentucky for restoration of voting rights for people convicted of nonviolent felonies. >> last year at howard university, senator paul defended requiring showing some forms of i.d. to vote. here he is going in another direction. let's listen. >> i think if you liken using a driver's license to literacy tests, you demean the horror of what happened in the '40s and '50s, maybe from 1910 through 1960s in the south. it was horrific. nobody is in favor of that. no republican is in favor of that. but to ensure an honest election is not unreasonable. >> i don't know which way he's running here. he says he's for it, against it. is he saying do it on the down low to use a local expression? don't be caught? >> listen to the nature of his comments. rand paul is an eye doctor, became a senator overnight, who is weaned in libertarian theory. he's saying listen, this is not a way of big inconvenience to show an i.d. but we're talking real world politics here and the mentioning just voter i.d., what it stirs up. he recognizes that, and on principle he says i favor it. but ooze a practical politician it's better that i don't talk about it much. >> i was told recently that what i feel is my birth certificate from nazareth hospital is not a birth certificate. there's some other document i didn't even know about. i think any new requirements is going to make it harder for people who don't drive car, who don't have all this documentation. it inflicts a burden on them. does he want to screw the voter or not? >> well, here's what i would point out. this whole discussion we're having right now is one of tone, right? rand paul has changed the way that he's speaking to populations that have basically shunned the republican party for ten years. what he's doing that's very different from the other republican candidates is he's going to these african-american and hispanic populations and doing more than just talking to them about being poor. he's talking to them about restoring voting rights. he's talking about charter schools, school choice, economic opportunity. and that's where i think that he could make a real impact. i think the jury is still out. he's got a long way to go. he said to me the other day, i like what you're saying, but i am still not voting for you. that's where a lot of democrats are. >> he teases, but i don't think he delivers in the act. thank you, chris. we'll be right back after this. but your erectile dysfunction - it could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about experiencing cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. when folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. 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didn't talk about right here on the panel. you may want to log on and check it out if you haven't been there before. make it good night. right now two big developing stories a race against the clock. ebola survivor dr. kent brantly rushing to the the rescue with his own blood trying to save another ebola patient. you are about to find out what dr. brantly is doing, make no mistake about it, ebola is deadly. just today terrible news out of a dallas hospital liberian man who came into the united states with ebola undetected. well, he died. that news as our government desperately fights to keep ebola from entering the u.s. and from spreading across the united states. and today, the homeland security department ordering new screening measures at five u.s. airports. all the the latest on ebola in just minutes. first, new fears isis could soon invade turkey the pentagon key syrian town could fall to isis and could fall soon. stepped up u.s. led coalition air strikes not keeping isis from advancing. fox news senior affairs correspondent greg palkot near the turkey, syria border. greg? >> greta, the battle for can a bane certainly seems to be in its crucial stages right now. we are. there was gigantic glass. early reports u.s. air strikes but later others claimed it was an isis suicide car bomb and a very big one. kurdish defenders of the town. citing all dangerous the levels of fighting is right now. while the kurdish militia had claimed they were pushing isis back, the sounds that we heard from the center of the city told another story, small arms, machine gun fire all day. along with an eerie quiet on the eastern side of the town. maybe a sign that isis has made more inroads there. does confirmed air strikes around kobani that is outside of the city. inside the city is where the fight is according to one kurdish fighter he is appreciative of those air strikes. he wished they had come earlier. turkish tanks were there as they have been for the past couple of days right next to our position while some of them were pointing towards co-ban any, others were pointing away into turkey. a sign of how much this country does not want to get involved with the fight. a sign of the trouble here. several cities clashing with the turkish government here. they wanted to do more with co-bane, 19 people have died so far in the last 24 hours. >> despite bombing near kobani, the syrian border town is still expected to fall to isis. so are air strikes enough? senator lindsey graham joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> we are doing air strikes against isis. kobani is about to fall. what's your assessment of these air strikes? >> well with, the question americans what does it matter to us? i think it matters a lot. it shows that the air strikes are not containing or degrading isis in any significant way. if that town falls, thousands will be slaughtered that breaks one's heart. humanitarian disaster. the stronger they get over there, the more endangered we are there president president obama's strategy of half-measures is making it much more likely that america will be hit by another terror attack. if they take kobani, they will be able to recruit more and more jihadists from europe and other places. they can come back here and strike us at home. his strategy of air attacks is not working. his insist not to have boots on the ground is a death blow to our efforts to destroy isil and, quite frankly, puts our country very much at risk. >> all right. you should call it strategy, half measures. we will talk about it later about what president jimmy carter said. but jimmy carter has even been critical of the president saying that the president obama is slow to act is one of the reasons isis is to so big and so powerful. >> i don't know when you hit bottom in foreign policy, but when you are being criticized by jimmy carter, you are pretty damn close. i just can't believe that the president is not reacting more forcefully to it a threat to our homeland. not only is this destroying syria and putting everything we fought for in iraq in jeopardy, isil's safe haven in syria and iraq are going to eventually be used to attack us here at home. the sooner we engage these guys and engage them the safer we will be at home. this risky strategy of half measures is going to catch up with us and puts the homeland at risk. without a ground component, greta, you're never going to destroy isil and the longer this takes and the longer it is drug out, the more at risk to our homeland. >> what about our ally, turkey, are they doing enough? is their border, they have been slow to act and they are the ones buying the oil from the black market from isis. >> right. >> well, i'm very disappointed in turkey but here's the problem. syria is a disaster. complete disaster. here is what turkey understands. if assad stays in power, then syria will continue to it be a failed state. there is no way the syrian people will accept syria where assaad controls part of it turkey is reluctant to get involved with the isil problem until they see a clear commitment from us to give the syrians a fresh start by removing assad. >> well, for starters though, senators, they can stop buying the cheap oil from isis which is financing they are in part nationals,. >> sure. i don't know if the turkish government is buying it. but they have allowed go into syria. turkey is a symptom of a greater problem. following barack obama because they are not sure if he is committed to success and to winning. syria, excuse me, turk from is a nato nation. they have tanks within just a couple miles of this town. it is stunning that they won't go in to help the people on the other side of the border. but i think the root cause of this be problem is that our allies are not sure about america and our enemies are no longer afraid of america. and that is a formula for disaster. >> senator, i just want to say i probably am using the term turkey loosely. i don't necessarily mean the government. i'm talking about people, doing a lot to stop it. >> sure, they could do more. >> they could do more. >> senator, thank you, sir. >> thank you. and the fbi now says the masked terrorist is in an isis propaganda video he is believed to be an american and probably from the midwest. and fbi still pleading for your help to identify him. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us with the latest. catherine are, the midwest? >> that's right, greta. based on our reporting we understand the fbi did a recognition analysis on the video. as well as biometric. >> asking for public assistance. what they will say is that they don't feel that their leads have run flew dead end, it's clear two weeks ago the fbi director told us this is one of the highest priorities and they still don't have that 1 purex% confirmation that they really want, greta. >> it's obvious very problematic, what are we doing? what does the fbi want? >> the fbi, based on this web site, they want tips, specifically they are asking for people to upload photos or documents and the former fbi agent said to me that when the bureau puts up a tip line, it it's a sign that whatever leads they were pursuing they have kind of run into some road blocks and they want information from the public. it's much easier in this sort of lawyer culture that exist is now to get photos and documents from the public rather than try to negotiate some kind of access to a mosque or a community center, greta. >> catherine, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> and it's not just president obama's former secretary of state hillary clinton where president obama's first secretary of defense robert gates or his more recent secretary of defense leon panetta blasting the president's foreign policy. now another democrat, former president jimmy carter slamming president obama. president carter saying the obama administration took too long to take action against isis let the islamic state build up capability of money and weapons while it was still in syria. former u.n. ambassador john bolton joins us. ambassador, nice to see you. i can't think of a more blistering attack from a former president from a current president. >> it's very stunning. not only is the analysis consistent with the critiques we have heard of the fecklessness of obama's strategy but the fact that one former president and a democrat to boot would say it about an incumbent president is really stunning. carter's criticism of obama on isis is really stronger than anything either of the president bushes have said. they, i think are adhering to the tradition that presidents really don't comment on it so when you have carter out there, that strongly, i think what it has to say obama's acolytes and the press and the alter boys who carry water for him in congress, the emperor has no clothes here to mix my medicine -- metaphors. this thing has been a complete sham and as time goes on a complete failure. we can cite jimmy carter. >> it's like i don't read this just as simply criticism like bad ideas or that was strategically wrong. he scarily lays the blame of the explosive growth of isis on the current president. i mean he says if he hadn't done, this none of this would have happened. >> yeah. i think the attack on the president's competence is, perhaps, most note worthy. and it's a, again, coming from a former president, you can say at least jimmy carter had had some experience with with the military given his background that obama clearly does not. so i think this is a very very stunning development and it's one, you know, if the president would stop going to fundraisers, maybe he would wake up and see that there is a problem here. i don't understand how the white house can continue to roll along doing political events when we see its entire policy in the region coming to a halted. and to believe jimmy carter just for a minute -- although it's hard to do so and dom on panetta watching him on o'reilly last night watching his facial expreparations as he tried to give what he believed honest answers to the questions and not do too much political damage to obama tells you everything you need to know about just how bad it is inside the administration for legitimate spokes people for national security. >> you know, i was going to ask you why president carter do that now? was he just being a little vin particularrive or unhappy? or sometimes he can be a little bit rough around the edges. but the problem is it's not just jimmy carter. it's heather pick has criticized the president. leon panetta, gates, i mean, that's the problem. it's all these democrats and you are supposed to rely on your cabinet. i your cabinet are your closest con if confidantes. >> i think it really is incumbent on people who know what's been happening in an administration when they become private citizens again. not it reveal classified information certainly but i think there is almost a duty to it tell the american people really what's going on. there is no code of silence in politics that requires people not to speak out. and i think gates and panetta and hillary clinton for that matter should be commended for writing their memoirs. >> one quick question. thing that's notable is the absence of anyone speaking up in favor of president obama's policy. that has been deafening. the silence is devining. >> i'm sure we will hear from the president soon and i'm sure he will give the best defense that anybody can possibly give of a failure. >> i mean, he could use some allies in the government to support him. >> i don't think he has any. i really don't. >> namaa very well be. ambassador, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> this is a fox news alert. the first ebola patient diagnosed in the u.s. died today in a dallas hospital. duncan carried that virus home with him on flight from liberia. the cdc is in contact with dozens of people he came into contact here in the united states. fox news national correspondent john roberts joining us from training facility in alabama. i don't know? >> good evening to you, greta. to duncan officials in dallas, texas, said it was a real strategy that he succumbed to the illness and passed away early this morning. they were also quick to remind people this is an isolated case. so far no sign of illness among his closest contacts and they are closely monitoring twice a day everybody that they believe he was in contact with. they also said today that to lessen the chance of contamination from the barrel process his body will -- burr yell burl process his body will be cremated. there will be enhanced screening procedures put in place at five u.s. airports. they will start this saturday at jfk and spread on from from newark, chicago o'hare, dulles airport outside of washington, d.c. and atlanta. people who come in and this is everybody who comes in from the three west african nations hardest hit will be more temperature monitoring as well. they have a lot of questions put to them. some of them tough about where they were, what they were doing and who they might have come in contact with. the cdc does believe that the best way to stop people from coming in with ebola is to curb it at its source. they launched a new training program in alabama to train up hundreds of healthcare workers to send into the hot zone, 36 this week in the three day session. what this is all about, really is, to teach these people, though train them how not to become victims themselves. we talked to a lot of these workers here. a lot of the volunteers. many of them charitable organizations like samaritan's purse very convicted about this saying they can't not go to the hot zone to help out. even though their families might be reluctant, one told me i didn't ask for permission. i just asked for them to support me. greta? >> john, thank you. there is news tonight about dr. kent brantly the first ebola stricken patient brought to the united states and surviving. dr. brantly is now paying it forward. he is donating his bad to the photo journalist now fighting for his life in a nebraska hospital. so could the transfusion of dr. brantly's blood help save the cameraman's life? professor sapphire from the research institute joins us. nice to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> what are the odds of the antibodies in dr. brantly's blood will help the man in nebraska fight this deadly disease off? >> well, it is certainly worth a shot because dr. brantly is a survivor, his blood, serum does have anti-ebola antibodies in it. in the absence of anything else, it's not a bad strategy to try. >> when you say it's worth a shot i know you haven't treated him and looked at it are we talking about 70%, 10% or 90%? what are the odds? >> we don't know the odds because no one has done a controlled experiment on this. the one or two times people have tried it, there was no control. there were no people that got equivalent medical care that. the man has ebola virus certainly worth a shot and brandly certainly has antibodies against it. >> let's go back to the nuts and bolts. how is ebola spread. if i come in contact with a patient or someone in that airport, what do i have to look for. >> i can tell you the science behind. this so, there are two kinds of viruses in the world. some kinds of viruses have a hard protein shell like the common cold. other kind of viruses have a flexible moist membrane, they have to stay wet. ebola and h.i.v. have a membrane and have to stay wet. they transmit through fluids to. contract ebola virus you need to be in contact with the blood, the vomit or othe feces of an infected person. ebola cannot escape its fundamental biology. it has to remain moist. and so it's not going to be wafting on the breezes of the country. your average american, if they have not been to west africa and they have not been in contact with the blood, vomit or diarrhea with an ebola patient, they would remember if they had, they are not going to contract ebola. >> how minute is it just a tiny little bit you have to touch? how do you get rid of it? >> yeah, good questions. so, the reason for the debate on this is how -- i mean how else can it transmit? if you put infected monkeys in one cage and uninfected monkeys in another cage somewhere else, they don't get infected it doesn't go through the air. if you house them in the same cage they do get infected because there is that contact. there are devices called nebulizers that could make a find mist that could get a monkey infected there are certain ways in which prolonged contact with very small fluid droplets can effect somebody. that's an artificial laboratory situation. we have never seen this in the world. what this says is that if you are going to involve a device -- like if you are going to intubate ebola patient you need complete respiratory protection and the hospitals know this. now, what is an infectious dose? only a very few copies of the virus could be auto lethal dose. so you do generally want to try to avoid it at all costs. but it's hard to say exactly what those numbers are. >> professor, once again as always, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> how would you answer this question he? 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>> just extraordinary. i guess it's very difficult to understand how fantastic this country is if you have not left and gone to other places that are, you know, just having such, you know, horrible things that are happening. i think that there is liberalism and this idea that power and strength is a bad thing. maybe america is just too strong. i think that is sort of what is going on under the surface at some universities. >> rich, when i was in college, i thought i knew everything it wasn't until i got a little older that i found how little i knew. are they just dopey college students trying to give the right answer? >> some of it is that. it's just childishness and hopefully they will grow up sometime soon. some of it as maria referred to they are absorbing the point of view of the best minds, so-called of american academia. they have this kind of predatory view of american power where we are responsible for all the ills in the world. if i were a harvard parent and watch that video, i would immediately want to demand a refund. parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars a year for their kids' heads to be filled with this nonsense. >> of course, like i noted with maria i don't know if it was four out of four or four out of 10,000 interviewed and just got those responses. >> well, in the of full disclosure i am a harvard college grad you really shouldn't take what i say too seriously. this is moral equivalency in the extreme it is absurd to compare america the greater good with the worse the world has ever seen with those ransacking their way across the middle east. there is a broader point here about the left on campus and liberalism that these kids are being taught. we had an op. ed by donald -- he wrote for us a couple weeks ago. look, democracy depends on patriotism. we have to have citizens who who believe that their country is a force for good in the world and want to defend it. we can laugh at this but there is also a very serious danger here, i think, to our country that these ideas, at a place like harvard even are taken seriously. >> i was a co-adjunct professor at nyu a a couple years ago. this was during the financial crisis when everyone was pointing their fingers at the banks, that the banks were evil. it was coming toward the end of the course, and these students were graduating. so many of them were afraid to say i got a job at jp morgan i don't want to say it because i should go to a a -- merrill lynch. the banks did make huge mistakes. i think that is very very prevalent at universities. >> why anything make a greater capitalist out of you but big student loans when you leave school. >> we nationalize student loan market as rich said the parents are paying no they aren't, the taxpayers are paying for this education because we are the ones giving them the loan. i'm not saying we are american's fault. the idea that patriotism is a bad thing is very dangerous. >> so engrained in the culture in academia. if you really want to teach history well, parents have to do it and outside groups have to do it. there has been this great flourishing in american history have all these popular historians writing terrific books that really tell the true story of the adventure of american history and greatness of the founding fathers. you need your kids to read those books because they are not going to get assigned them at harvard. >> it's interesting to watch what is taught at many colleges. fertile ground for different thought. where people think -- i had a great time in college. like i said, i some pretty dopey ideas in college. >> but parents should actually do what you said and look at what is being taught and what they're coming home with and say is this really what i'm paying for? 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>> i don't think so. i don't remember. >> so, when was the first time you heard that he was in libya? >> when he died. >> how did did you hear that? >> my daughter called me. >> and who had she heard from? >> i don't remember. >> you didn't even know he was there? >> no. >> or what he was doing? >> no. >> did the state department call you then or just your daughter? >> she called to tell me and then i looked out the window and i saw all these people walking towards my house, some of them were my friends. they must have known. i don't know how they knew what had happened but they started to come into the house and next thing i know people came through the front door from washington my friends and that was the beginning of that long process. children supposed to outlive you. >> it's the wrong order. >> wrong order. so, what happened? did they give you any information? i mean, tell me about that day. >> that day was just filled with crying and tears. if they told me anything, i don't remember it. and it was like that for two or three days. so, looking back, you're in a fog and you are just told what to it do. and you do it. and you talk to people but there is no depth to it because you are in such sorrow when you are in such shock. >> i imagine, you know, and of course i have never walked in your shoes so you can't really know exactly how you feel, but i would imagine that you would want to know what happened. you would want answers. is that true? did you want to know what happened or, you know, -- >> -- at that point, i didn't remember dwelling on that. i was just trying to survive as a mother who had lost her son, someone she loved. >> the fbi director called you some time after your son died. >> correct. >> about how long after your son died did the fbi director mueller call. >> well over a month. >> and said what? >> he said he apologized for not calling sooner because he couldn't find my contact number. and i said do you mean my phone number? he said contact number. we couldn't find the contact number. i said you are the fbi? he said yes. so then i sort of was laughing to myself i said you are going to stick to this little story, aren't you? he said yes. so i said well, what is it that you want? and he just said well, we want you to know that we're there for you. >> are you in the phone book? >> i think i am in the phone book. everyone else found me. >> the day that -- after you left washington, after the ceremony, did there ever come a time that you were briefed on what happened to your son? >> i don't think so. at that point afterwards there was so much confusion what went on. i don't think anyone was really sure at that point what had happened. and even to this day i'm reading different stories about what happened. so i'm not even sure. >> do you have any problem with the fact that even to this day you are reading different stories about what happened? >> some of the stories like glen went up to help and one of the fighters on the roof said he was the only one that came up to help. that's a good story. but his love for his fellow man is what cost him his life. so, you have the sadness there but you also know he did the write thing in his eyes. he always went to help somebody. >> do you have any, you know, i guess criticism is is a harsh word, especially for the mother of a child who lost his life but about how the government handled it that night? >> well, the more we are finding out, the more criticism you feel, yes. i felt in the beginning that there was such chaos that it couldn't be helped, but now as more details have come out, yes, it could have been prevented. it wasn't. >> our conversation with barbara doherty continues. up next, how the cia and the state department gave her no choice but to sue them both. plus, a new movement in sergeant andrew tahmooressi's case. the latest battle to get him freed from a mexican prison coming up. my name's louis, and i quit smoking with chantix. i had tried to do it in the past. i hadn't been successful. quitting smoking this time was different because i talked to my doctor and i... i got a prescription for chantix. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it was important to me that chantix was a non-nicotine pill. the fact that it reduced the urge to smoke helped me get that confidence that i could do it. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems, or if you develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. use caution when driving or operating machinery. common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams. i am very proud. i love myself as a nonsmoker. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. cozy or cool? 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>> no questions asked. you have to actually show proof of payment to the cia before you are deployed overseas, which is why glenn was actually given a phone number of an individual to contact at a particular insurance broker. he called that individual, took out his policy, put it on his credit card, showed proof of of payment back to the cia before he was permitted to be deployed overseas. >> did he he have any options? could he go to another insurance company? >> absolutely not, no, no. glenn was required to contact this particular insurance broker. >> so he buys this policy that in the event that he did die it was absolutely worthless? >> that's right. >> nobody got any money? >> right. the policy paid a $3,000 funeral benefit but no benefits as a traditional insurance policy would have been paid. and the premiums that he paid were actually more than what the benefit he received for that funeral benefit. >> now more of our interview with barbara doherty. >> you filed the lawsuit? >> correct. >> what i understand, correct me if i am wrong, as a contractor he was required to get insurance policy on his life. the insurance policy amount will only get paid out if he has a child. >> or an heir. >> or an heir. that means that all his loved ones, typical insurance policy if you don't have a child you can name your mother, your father, your brother, your sister is that this policy was sold to him and it could only go to a child, an heir? >> correct. >> so even if he put in his will that he wants his sister to have it, that won't -- he can't do that, he couldn't do that? >> and, of course, he didn't know that was within the contract. >> you have seen the policy itself, but the insurance company won't pay and you have asked help for the cia. you have seen part of the contract your son had with the cia but much of it is blacked out. >> correct. but you haven't seen the whole thing, and the cia won't help you with the insurance company? >> correct. >> what do you think about your government on that? >> i don't think much of them. >> they make it really hard, don't they? >> yes, they just are not forthcoming. >> makes it even tougher, doesn't it? >> yes, yes. because i don't feel that our family or any other family should have to suffer this indignity and that's what it is. they denied he bought insurance. now they are saying the insurance won't be paid and so the pain you feel from losing your child is then brought forth again because now it's disrespectful to treat a family, any family that way. >> i suppose this insurance contract with yoir son and i assume that many other single people are signing them as well is that it is going to continue to go on unless these policies are sold to these contracts for which they have no use. it's going to continue to go on unless someone steps up. >> correct. i feel that way. >> have you -- has anyone from the government -- no one has contacted you about this at all? >> no. no. they kept pushing that video story that it was a video that prompted the protest outside the consulate. >> correct. that was very prominent in the beginning. and now that has changed quite a bit. >> changed because of the fog of war or changed because it was dishonest? >> i don't know. i'm not an insider in washington. >> so, do you harbor any sort of sense of real disappointment if with the government? i realize your son, you know, that he served in the seals and he understood what his job was and everything. do you have any r the government handle this write? >> no, i think i'm more disappointed in their lack of handling what glenn would want to happen. glenn always said mom, you know, if anything happens to me, you and greg and kate are going to be well taken care of. so, his wish is not being met and i think they disappoint me tremendously that way. the the issues of war is is a little beyond me so i'm always surprised when i'm finding out something new. we decided politically to try to stay out of the battles in washington and we're trying to keep to that. >> thank you for sitting down with us. and i hope that some attention on this insurance policy will change things. >> i appreciate your trying to help us too. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> and you can see much more of our interview with barbara doherty. it will be on gretawire.com in the coming days. tonight at 10:00 p.m. on hannity sean talks to members of the benghazi annex security team. that's tonight 10:00 p.m. on hannity. don't miss that straight ahead, big news in the case of our jailed marine sergeant andrew tahmooressi. what is going on in mexico right now? 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the first legislation since voters born after the apartheid will be old enough to vote. let's go now to "morning joe." hillary clinton gave the keynote address at the national council for behavorial health conference in maryland. she also held a q & a session afterwards. i think it's surprisingly personal. >> what is your guilty pleasure? [ laughter ] >> a hcht h, let's see. [ laughter ] >> are there that many? >> well, i'm just trying to think of, you know, the g-rated ones. [ laughter ] >> well, hello, madam secretary. >> good morning. it is wednesday, may 7th. with us on set we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. "morning joe's" contributor mark halperin. and al hunt and white house correspondent for the associated julie tace. and welcome, everyone. >> good morning. >> inquiring. >> okay. >> i don't want to stay with the contributor title. is there something jels. >> ironically, do you contribute. >> i know. why not be called contributor. >> all right. let's start with hillary clinton. by the way, i have an incredible event last night, raising money for homeless new yorkers and there were protesters outside. but inside, a lot of money was raised to help house the 22,000 children in new york that are homeless right now. 52,000. the highest number since the great impression. i mean, it's unspeakable. and this organization ran this, doing everything they can. a little sleepy this morning, but loved every moment. let's go to politics. hillary clinton is reining in some of the biggest pieces of domestic policy. clinton talked that. she told health officials she was struck by the latest health care poll. >> a small majority of americans don't think they like the affordable care act. but a large majority of americans don't want to do away with the protections that are in the affordable care act. a small majority wants to repeal it. but that is slowly receding as a rising majority says no fixes. well, that's in the tradition of good, old-fashioned american pragmati pragmatism. >> still, recent polls from pew and "usa today" shows obamacare as unpopular as ever. nearly half americans believe the law's here to stay. clinton also tackled america's gun culture calling the recent licensing of firearms in public places way out of balance. >> i think we've got to rein in what has become a -- almost article of faith. that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime. and i don't believe that is in the best of interest of the vast majority of people. so, first of all, mark, she hits on two big issues. a sign of something, perhaps? >> well, you know, she's been outdoing these talks and i've been surprised and impressed with how little news she's made and how frequently she's awaded wading in. >> this is wading in. >> and if she runs for president, the biggest question of american politics, will she run? and if he does run, what will stop her because she's the overwhelming favorite? affordable care act is a big one but i think she's going to embrace it. i thought that was surprisingly tentative in its support. there's no doubt in my mind that she thinks the law was good. she would work to implement it more and better than so far. >> she would know how difficult it is. >> yeah. mike barnicle, it was a little tentative, and she supported it but it certainly wasn't an overwhelming kick the republicans in their teeth, it's all their fault, approach that democrats have taken. >> considering the degree of difficulty in being hillary clinton right now, everybody asking will she or won't she run, everything she says, every word has to be so measured in the back of her mind, as well as what comes out of her mouth, i thought she did what is pretty expected. >> yeah. >> i thought the same think watching her talk. she's going to live her life and go out and do events. it must be going out in front of public, with q & a, i've got to answer questions about it. >> there's a lot of focus on hillary clinton. and there's certainly proof now that the political cycle is bringing back aspects of the '90s. look no further than monica lewinsky who has a new article in "vanity fair." the one-time white house intern writes about her regrets of the affair that lead to the impeachment of president bill clinton. she's 40 years old now. and she writes in part this, sure, my boss took advantage of me, but i will always remain firm on this point, it was a consensual relationship. any abuse came in the aftermath when i was made a scapegoat in order to protect his powerful position. lewinsky claims she declined various offers of $10 million to tell her story. she says she was motivated to go public now after the suicide of 18-year-old rutgers student tyler clementi. clemente was filmed on his webcam kissing another man. lewinsky said the shame, scorn and suicidal feelings were all too familiar. she goes on in the article to talk about how her mother stayed at her bedside the entire weeks, worried she would take her life. there's already a bunch of op-eds criticizing monica lewinsky about this. not necessarily buying it. maureen dowd has a really tough one on her. >> not buying what? >> her motive? >> yeah. >> what would her motive -- and whether lower motive -- i mean, if she wanted to make some money off of this, she could have made money. >> she could have made a lot of money. >> i think it's remarkable we haven't heard her name for ten years. we know how much we've heard her name for the previous five or six years. i don't know. i don't know what the criticism is. i get tyler clementi's legacy and tells the story, i think she's been remarkably quiet. >> what do you think? >> yeah, i don't quite understand that criticism. i think she's entitled to present her story ten years later. i haven't read the piece. i just read account. it seems to me to be a very, very sober and by all appearances honest. she's entitled to a life now. i will say i think the notion this is going to hurt hillary clinton a lot is nonsense. if it didn't hurt her in 2008 ten years after the incident, why is it going to hurt her now. >> for hillary clinton, that's incredibly sexist and completely -- >> it won't, mika. >> i've got to tell you, if people are kick monica lewinsky around, monica's life turned into a punch line by a person who is now a rock star globally. why the focus on this woman. >> maureen dowd wrote about it. she's not the only one. ruth marcus wrote about it. >> i'm sorry, a woman's life was ruined. yes, she says it's consensual. she says it's consensual. i just do not think i would pick on monica lewinsky which her boss say rock star globally. and why kick around a young woman who was 22 at the time, i guess, 23, whatever. it was in that position. it's dumbfounding to me. it was dumbfounding then. it is dumbfounding now. i suppose it will be dumbfounding for the next 20 years. i don't get it. >> yeah, i mean she has, obviously, a right to have a piece in "vanity fair" to express her feelings. and we have a right to mention it today. and never mention it no further ever again. >> you know, that's no more closely watched senate race in the country than the one in north carolina. >> and republican thom tillis, for the state house who avoided a costly runoff beating more conservative opponents who have backing from the tea party and people like senator rand paul and mike huckabee. tillis's visibility story being hailed as a win for the establishment. last night he laid it out in front of an energetic crowd. >> it's not the end of a primary. it's the beginning of a primary condition and add to beat kay hagan and make harry reid an irrelevant american. >> wow. >> tillis's win comes in large part through massive spending by the chamber commerce and groups like american cross roads. he faced a tough showdown with republican kay hague hoon easily won her primary. hagan has raised millions. and millions from democratic-leaning groups. 90% has been spent from outside money. before we move on to other races -- >> yeah, this is an important race. julie, ongoing battle between the tea party and the establishment wing, the republican party. i think in the end they're all going to come together anyway because everybody wants to win. but this is not 2010. it's not even 2012. the establishment, the empire strikes back that started in alabama. julie, you'll remember, with the chamber of commerce and the ricketts and several other people poured money into the establishment and he won. it was like the first shot across the bow in the proposed cruz shutdown. boy, the establishment is pushing back hard to make sure a debacle like that doesn't happen again. >> absolutely. the most important thing for the republican establishment last night was tillis doesn't have to go through a runoff. he cleared 40 which means they can focus all their attention on the race with hagan. you know, north carolina is an important state to look at in terms of establishment of the tea party battle. you know, we'll have more races over the next couple of weeks, we'll see if this is going to be a long-term trend. again, the most important thing at this point, republicans have target kay hagan directly. and kay hagan for as much money as she has raised and as much support that she's going to get from the democratic party is going to face a tough fight. still going to probably be in trouble. i think she has the toughest great of the governors this fall. >> by the way, mark, i talked to republicans in the country over the past year, they're sick and tired and really angry of putting up candidates that say foolish things and lose elections. they think harry reid should have been retired in 2010. they think republicans should have taken control of the senate in 2012. and i just don't think most republicans are going to allow this to happen again. they want to win. >> democrats and tillis himself will tell you he's conservative. it's not like they nominated a moderate. this is one state that was huge to get the right nominee. karl rove wants him as a nominee. they got him. they still have to find a nominee in georgia and alaska. they can put 13 races in play if they get the right nominees. and this is a huge one for them. tillis, the establishment believes clearly in the right candidate and i think they're right. >> when you get out of this northeast buck that we live in here, when you talk to people in other states where there are contentious races going on, the degree to which harry reid is a focal point for republicans in so many states? >> you know, he's like the koch brothers which is, if you care about politics, you know who he is. there's no doubt for rund raising and motivating the base which is a big part of what you need to do in the midterm, getting harry reid out of the majority leader's spot is a huge motivator. as much as stopping obamacare in some races because it's tangible. it says, if you wrote for our candidate, or take the democratic health seat, you can kick harry reid out. >> that's as big as getting nancy pelosi out of the speaker's chair in 2010. harry reid has become that figure. >> the koch brothers using harry reid as well. >> i will say that thom tillis this is the victory of the scarborough doctrine, victory over puritity. every statement from cross roads, the conservative group that backed tillis called it a center right group. the chamber of commerce signed up behind them. the nra, national right to life. as mark said, this is a conservative guy. they thought she was the most conservative guy to win the race and beat kay hagan. >> by the way, i had issues with the nra last year the way they conducted themselves after the horror that happened. but, man, i said it before, as far as candidates goes, this is -- this is not the first establishment candidate they've chosen in this cycle where they've been lined up with the chamber of commerce. unlike a lot of these other groups, thesefulliby groups that come up and says the craziest things and the tea party -- you know, national so-called tea party groups. they are lining up with the chamber of commerce. and it's making a big difference. >> a couple of other quick races. and then we'll move on to one other big story this morning. "american idol" star clay aiken. >> yes. >> he's got a lead in the race for congress. just 369 votes separate him and keith crisco. and speaker boehner cruised through his victory in north carolina. let's move onto benghazi. there are growing questions about the size and scope of the new congressional panel on benghazi. a house resolution says there will be a republican majority with seven republicans and five democrats. speaker john boehner picked republican trey gowdy to lead the select committee. minority leader nancy pelosi who has not yet committed to names democrats to the group objected to the unequal balance. some suggested boycotting the committee. congressman jim clyburn of south carolina says democrats should not take part if there isn't an equal number. this is what he says, quote i would be dead set against it. i'm not bringing a noose to my hanging. the democratic congressman elijah cummings of mtd md won't rule out participating. he said democrats need representation to keep republicans in check. >> al hunt, obviously, yes, tough language from democrats. also, the obama administration raised questions on the legitimacy of this investigation, even before it began. what should democrats do? >> well, i think they may well not participate. depends on what -- more than the size of the minute majority and majority there, it will be the rule, what rights they have to subpoena witnesses, whether information will be shared the way darrell issa didn't. i don't think there's any question congress has the right to do this as much as they want to. i wonder how much is going to resonate with the american public. this is not the first investigation. there have been multiple investigations of this instance that occurred almost two years ago. and i'm just not quite sure how much is going to help them politically. >> julie pace, what about the white house? do you expect the white house to continue to push back on this? >> at this point, yes. i mean, they've danced around this issue of whether they're going to participate or not. they've been saying they participate in legitimate oversight and they have questions about whether this would be legitimate. and there's two schools of thought on this in terms of white house participation. one is that, if they do participate, then it just -- it's going to keep this benghazi story in the spotlight, straight through the midterms. the other school of thought is that if they really don't have anything to hide, why not participate, turn over any documents that are left. and if you choose not to do that, doesn't that just feed into this republican narrative that they are holding back information. >> you know, there's real danger here. there are two dangers here. one for the democrats that they are seen as blocking an investigation where four americans died, the first ambassador since 1979, died. they could take a bad situation and make it much, much worse. the danger on the other side, the republicans are seeing making the death of four americans look overly partisan and using it as a political football. so there are dangers on both sides. the investigation is being run in a professional, straightforward way and if it's not -- there will be dangers. but the democrats also have got to be very, very careful. because this is san issue where very bad situation, a tragedy, could be made much worse. still ahead on "morning joe," elizabeth warren said she's not interested in the white house but that doesn't take people from taking note of her battle. and then in the 8:00 hour, the man in charge of the new benghazi investigation we just mentioned him, congressman trey gowdy, we'll talk with him and then senator claire mccaskill. get ready for that. i think you might want to change your clothes. up next, tim vander height is here with the top political stories. mika, as advertised, the white house came out with the climate assessment of every four years. some of the important points brought up in reading the report, it's here now. no longer in the future which is kind of in the perception of the people. that the climate isn't changing. and the events dealing with it now are related to it. and urgent action is needed. as far as the forecast over the next century, the temperatures show go up 2 to 4 degrees. picture january being warmer 2 to 4 degrees but also in the summer, 2 to 4 degrees. and the bottom line, the result is heat waves and drought is how most of us in this country will experience climate change. the people that are dry are going to get drier. and the people who are wet are going to get wetter. and in the southeast, finding fresh water for agriculture and drinking needs is going to be a huge issue. the increased occurrence of hurricanes should be up. heat waves, droughts. and also flooding in the northern plains will be an issue that will be more recurring. as far as what we're dealing with this morning. rain headed through detroit. cleveland, eventually here to pittsburgh. some of that may wake its way through philadelphia and d.c. late today. pretty nice day, though, boston down to d.c. middle. country, severe weather returns. not like last week with the horrible tornadoes. with the isolated areas of yellow of greater concern. oklahoma city, san angelo, back to minneapolis, again, large hail and damaging wind will snap the big tornado outbreak as we go throughout the week. more "morning joe" when we return. passion... became your business. at&t can help simplify how you manage it. so you can focus on what you love most. when everyone and everything works together, business just sings. you always get the lowest price book any flight or hotel and if you find it for less we'll match it and give you fifty dollars back that's the expedia guarantee when laquinta.com sends him a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what salesman alan ames becomes? i think the numbers speak for themselves. i'm sold! a "selling machine!" ready for you alert, only at lq.com. time to take a look at the morning papers. something that halperin and willie noticed. when noticing all of these opinion pieces, look at that, about monica lewinsky. all female columnists just raking her over the coals. i don't get it. it's really disappointing, actually. i mean, i'm not saying this woman's a hero but i would suggest she probably had a very difficult time during the time that it was revealed that the president took advantage of her in the white house. i don't understand these women. it's great for the clintons, maybe that's what they're doing. i think it's kind of disappointing. i can't believe what i'm reading in the "new york post." >> by the way this is something -- i -- you know, my rule has long been, do not talk about impeachment. do not talk about anything surrounding impeachment. it's like don't talk about the start of the iraq war. there's just some things you leave behind. in this case, i've got to say, how old, 52, 53? she's like 22. by attacking her, who stayed quiet all these years, they're attacking her. i don't know. i don't get it. i don't get it at all. i just don't -- >> let me just say one last thing. you can imagine what it must have been like to have yourself all over the internet like that, because the internet was just taking off. and terms of social media really spreading the word and just ripping her to shreds. i know kids in small local communities that can be taken from literally from straight "a's" because of a text that went bad or a picture that went bad. you can imagine the hell that this girl went through. >> she's clearly tormented and people are making fun of it. but she essentially has been publicly bullied for decades. >> monica close her mouth and disappear -- andrea? really? come on. >> i wonder if that's one of the female columnists daughters who worked -- had a daughter who worked for an extraordinarily powerful man who is in her early 20s and the man was in his 50s. and the man preyed on their young daughter. their young daughter in her early 20s was preyed upon by a really powerful man. the most powerful man in the world in their 50s, i wonder if they would be attacking the 22-year-old or the most powerful man in the world? i think these women, if any of them are mothers, would not be attacking the woman who was preyed upon. but for some reason, and, again, you don't want to bring it up -- but for some reason, this is what went on in the 1990s. you want to know what's in my head all the time? this is what went on in the 1990s. the guy who acted horrifically. the guy to not only monica lewinsky and a lot of other people. he got a free pass. his amrufl ratings went up in the '60s. i learned when that train was coming just come by and let it pass. there's nothing to said. he always got free passes. she's still getting free passes. for anybody who has a daughter that has anything to do with these attacks on monica lewinsky, ask yourself what you would do if your daughter who lived in shame for 18 years. and after 18 years actually spoke for the first time why the man who did what he did to a young woman was the rock stars of all rock stars. years later, this is not about bill clinton. okay. we all believe in forgiveness. he's been forgiven. this bit american people, but this -- this should be about the women who are piling on monica lewinsky this morning. if it were your daughter, what would you do? if it were or daughter, why what would you do? it's a disgrace then. it's a disgrace now. and i can't believe i had to go back to the 1990s and talk about this. because i swore i would never talk about it again. >> i'm sorry. >> you know what, this happened in the 1990s. forget about her. forget about her. talk about juanita broderick. talk about all these other women, again, i believe in forgiveness, et cetera, et cetera. why is it that even in 2014 it is the women who are turned into the bad guys? i never got it. i still don't get it. and all these years later, there are females going out protecting bill clinton from his horrific act. again, i wouldn't bring it up, as you joke around a whole lot, bill clinton and i have made up. we're friendly. we're even nice to each other. >> oh, my gosh. >> this is not about bill clinton. this is about the women who are visserating monica lewinsky and she was quiet. by the way, her entire existence reduced to a punch line. and she stays quiet shows a lot of dignity. a lot more dignity than people who preyed upon her who tried to turn her into a slut or a nut? a 22-year-old daughter, really? now, they're coming out and kicking her in the face. please, you all are sick. you're sick in the '90s. you women's rights, you're sick in the '90s. time and time again, whether juanita broderick, monica lewinsky, you are doing it 18 years later and you're pathetic. if you have young daughters, you should be ashamed of yourself. i wear to god i will not talk about this for another 20 years. go ahead, willie. i'm so angry, i'm shaking. i still can't believe the way she was treated in the 1990s. and it's always the women. and these people come out, and have the nerve to come out after defending him, after defending him, and claim to come out wanting to support women and attack women. women's rights and that's protecting a really, really powerful man on our side politically. >> anyone disagree? mark halperin, do you agree? al hunt? >> no. >> julie pace, any issue with this? >> no issue. >> really, want to step out? >> no, i just didn't finally read all the way through maureen dowd. she doesn't go after monica lewinsky. her point is, we're going back again, we don't want to hear about this. >> actually, her point is my point. >> she has a couple points of criticism, she said the real bullies are the clintons and their attack dog. she has criticism of monica lewinsky and said she would like to seat circus move through. >> by the way, i was not talking about maureen at all. al hunt and maureen makes a point that i'm making here. you went through it as well, mark was there, al, for those of us who went through it in the 1990s, oh, we don't want do go through it again. it was a miserable, miserable time. when this woman is attacked the way she is in the papers, i don't get it, i don't get it now. >> nobody ever accused maureen dowd of being a clinton -- >> no. >> and this is hillary clinton, so for anyone who thinks is this going to hurt her, i hope you're wrong ten times over. >> it has nothing to do with hillary. >> this is a completely messed up situation even more twisted. we'll be right back. ch money dok you'll need when you retire? 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[ applause ] and last, my mom. i don't think you know what you did. you made us. you kept us off the streets. put clothes on our back. food on the table. when you didn't eat, you made sure we ate. you went to sleep hungry. you sacrificed for us. you're the real mvp. [ applause ] >> oh, wow. >> wow. >> okay. >> we're all tearing up here. >> that was so beautiful. >> a great player. great guy. what a beautiful moment between a guy and his mother last night. all right. let's do eye a little baseball now. cincinnati and boston tied in the bottom of the 12th inning. the red sox at bat with two men out. >> sizemore drives it to deep left center field. back is schumaker off the wall. it is off the base of the wall. here comes big papi around. and the red sox with the walk-off at fenway. >> i'm looking at it, and we're tearing up. >> baseball now. >> sizemore, the go around with the red sox. they're just a game and a half back in the a.l. east where the orioles and yankee, tied in the first. pittsburgh and giants tied at 1-1 in the bottom of the ninth. >> marte to right field. goes deep. over the wall. marte, around second, he's heading for third. and sterling marte is going to be a triple. no, he's going to the plate. here's the throw. he's good -- oh! on the plate. >> wow. >> you know, willie, we're actually explaining to people these games. these are just random baseball games. these are not last night's games. these are from 1997. they were classic. >> all right. >> got to keep moving. >> by the way, that out would have sent the game to extra innings but not before review on the replay. you see marte, he thought the something great happened. the card was overturned. the pirates win. >> baseball fever. catch it. >> yes. >> the brew crew -- >> the brew crew. >> that's right. my mission is accomplished. >> with always the humble, the contrite. >> he's on the d.l. >> they're playing with wisconsin values. >> all right. what's coming up? >> more "morning joe." >> on overdose now. the day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day. he was a matted mess in a small cage. so that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. from contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers, you can find it all on angie's list. we found riley at the shelter, and found everything he needed at angie's list. join today at angieslist.com afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. 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>> it's a little premature to discuss the strategy yet. i think we have to see what happens in georgia and mississippi and other states. they have a hard time getting businesses to kick in money. when they dump $10 million in a race like this and have success. they can erase their defeats. to do it now i think allows them to get more people to funnel in money to give the establishment more authority. and the establishment has been exception alley weak for the bulk of our lives in covering politics, the establishment was all that mattered. in the last five years, it hasn't mattered at all. so if it can be sustained, it's important. >> again, taking that alabama one race is done. we have the chamber and the nra, american cross roads lined up the wickets. and now you have the chamber and the nra. and karl rove lined up together. that's powerful. they're focused. and they don't want to give away any more senate seats. >> an they said this at the outset. they laid this out. but i think one thing going forward that's going to be key as part of this is, if these candidates feel like the chamber and cross roads deserve credit for their victories, then we're going to avoid having people like ted cruz in the senate where he doesn't feel beholden to any of the establishment republicans who are in washington trying to get him to take a tough vote on the debt ceiling or anything like that. senator mitch mcconnell has very little influence over ted cruz partially because he didn't help to get him elected. >> that's a great point, willie. you know, you and jim will remember this, gingrich, everybody worked against me, tried to beat me in my primary. i won. >> why would they want to do that? >> i don't know. >> i got my hands dirty. >> the republican party and the national level and state level worked against me, i had one person, jan willy, god bless her that worked with me, and everybody else worked against me. i got 62% when you worked against me this time. work against me again, i'll get 80%. you know? so this is significant for what kasie said when they get elected? >> and do you think we talked about cross roads calling itself a center-right organization going out of its way. now, they have a sort of track record now, they're going to use this strategy going through the primary season? >> i think so. i think it's also democrats will tell you what the establishment has done here is simply pick more conservative candidates. they haven't actually moved any farther to the senate. they would say thom tillis who has been in charge of a very conservative portion of north carolina, and they can say the same thing about tom cotton in arkansas. they would say he's too conservative to beat mark pryor, and that's why you're seeing pryor in the polls. >> caskaesie hunt. thank you so much. all right. still ahead, hillary clinton gives a speech in maryland. that only fuels the presidential speculation. >> i don't care whether you're a republican or democrat, libertarian, i don't care what you are. don't vote for someone who proudly says he or she will never compromise. find somebody in your party who is sensible. who understands the legislative process. who is not going to washington to proudly destroy what they built because they have a better idea to run our country. >> need to prove politico's point of how she has that flower. like water coming out of the flower. >> i love it. >> and a press guy comes up and squirts that flower. i know you know what i'm about to tease next and it makes you cink -- >> coming up next, i'm going to apologize. >> i expect more. claire definitely expects more. up next, what's one shocking thing kids don't know about their parents? 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[ laughter ] >> wow. >> i know. >> that my kids don't know? hmm. >> i mud wrestled naked when i was in high school. >> she did not know that? >> no. >> but she does now. >> she does now. >> what do you think about that? >> it's creepy. >> that is hilarious. >> i love it. i love it. i love the creepy kid. >> that's fantastic. >> okay. still ahead on "morning joe," he's been called the congressman who could bring down hillary clinton's political ambitions or even the entire obama presidency. and the benghazi investigation, trey gowdy is here and he's going to be here live in the 8:00 hour. one of the best political minds in the game is going to be joining us. first, harry reid has had enough of republicans on capitol hill. >> is he going to freak out? >> for five years we've put up with this. it doesn't matter what it is. if obama wants, they're against it. >> all right. harry reid is angry. >> we'll be back in minutes. >> nothing new. >> nothing. >> that's it. you can get a break now. i always say be the man with the plan but with less energy, moodiness, and a low sex drive, i had to do something. i saw my doctor. a blood test showed it was low testosterone, not age. we talked about axiron the only underarm low t treatment that can restore t levels to normal in about two weeks in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these symptoms to your doctor. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer, worsening prostate symptoms, decreased sperm count, ankle, feet or body swelling, enlarged or painful breasts, problems breathing while sleeping and blood clots in the legs. common side effects include skin redness or irritation where applied, increased red blood cell count, headache, diarrhea, vomiting, and increase in psa. ask your doctor about axiron. we cannot let the fans down. don't worry! the united states postal service will get it there on time with priority mail flat rate shipping. our priority has always been saving the day. because our priority... amazing! ...is you! the amazing spider-man 2 delivered by the united states postal service. ...i got lots of advice, but i needed information i could trust. unitedhealthcare's innovative, simple program helps moms stay on track with their doctors to get the right care and guidance. 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[ applause ] >> welcome back to "morning joe." jim vanderhey still here. hi. how are you? >> doing great. >> good to have you on board. hillary clinton wading into some of the most sensitive areas of domestic policy. speaking in maryland yesterday. clinton talked about poverty and political dysfunction. she told the room of mental health professionals she was struck by the latest health care poll. >> a small majority of americans don't think they like the affordable care act. but a large majority of americans don't want to do away with the protections nra the affordable care act. a small majority wants to repeal it. but that is slowly receding as a rising majority says no fixes. well, that's in the tradition of good, old-fashioned american pragmatism. >> still recent polls from pew and "usa today" shows obamacare as unpopular as ever. nearly half of americans believe the law is here to stay. clinton also tackled american's culture of recent firearms way out of the balance. >> i think we've got to rein in what has become a -- almost article of faith that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime. and i don't believe that. that is in the best interest of the vast majority of people. [ applause ] >> steven schmidt, harrisburg clinton walks across the street, we're going to analyze it in terms of if it's significant. there's policy statements she made there. >> yeah. >> but, you know, hillary's is a resump tiff nominee, we're going to be doing this for some time, aren't we. >> absolutely. she out there. she's talking about these issue, she's doing it very early which i think is curious. because she certainly has of the ability to control the entire process with regard tow. >> i was going to say, is it a mistake to come out too early? >> i don't know. i do think this is a big republican year. pie don't think she wants any ownership of that. >> you do think it's a big republican year. >> it is. >> 2010 or maybe not -- >> it is as intense as 2010, but i think the impact will be bigger. because i believe it will take the senate and -- >> what's driving that? >> well, i think that obamacare is driving it. but larger than that is it's the sixth year of a presidency. it's not a great year historically. for the party that holds the white house. you look at the matchups where they're occurring in the selection of states these are red states. north carolina, for instance, which i believe will take that seat, you know, in november. but you look at all -- you look at all of these states. the issues, the turnout mix, and we're not going to give up the senate seats over the last two elections. we've given up six senate seats with crazy candidates. >> it's not going to happen. great candidates. >> and jim or joe, democrats can learn from their position on obamacare or not learn as they go into midterms? >> well, i felt like she was saying mend it, don't end it. i think if i'm a democrat and i support it i'd correctly say why i supported it, talking about the good parts of it. but then hammer away at the mistakes. all the errors and is this how we need to mend it. >> go back to where we were should be the message. >> that's all we really do. i agree with steve and probably even more empathically, this is 2010 with conservatives fired up on obamacare. there was a poll last week, a "washington post" post, independents said they're certain to vote for 23%. >> do you think it's as big as 2010. >> i don't think it's as big as 2010 but the environment is very similar. not just at the national level but the state level. if you look at the state races you have, what, five state senates that chambers that could end up flipping to republicans. when you have this happening and this much more with republicans, and just a lukewarm feeling among democrats. and that's bad in an off-year election because nobody votes. you're lucky to get 30% of people to turn out in these elections. >> julie, the white house knows republicans have a win at their back going into the fall right now. talk about what will be the implications of this for the president's agenda in the white house. if you thought washington gridlock is bad now if you have a house and senate going republican with a democratic president, it could be a long two years for the president? >> right. and the problem for the white house, the best case scenario of the november elections is essentially the status quo. >> right. >> republicans keep the house, democrats keep a small majority in the senate. and we all know where that's gotten us the last couple of years. obviously, it would be tougher to get anything through if the republicans were able to take the senate. to link this back to what hillary clinton was saying about health care. you know, it's likely that some of these fixes that we talk about with obamacare that are needed. that even the white house admits are probably needs, will be pushed off until 2016, whoever wins that election. so that's, i think, part of why you see her starting to maybe take this position. she's laying the groundwork for what she would have to say in a presidential election. basically saying that the law as a whole is good for the country. but that she would take on some of these fixes. >> you know, mika, the only thing i would say is, republicans may might say the wind's at their back. democrats do have good senate candidates in these red states that would be the first to be swept out. we'll see what happens with pryor in arkansas who has been more than we thought and tom cotton. and mary landrieu who may be an underdog, but she always figures out a way to win. and alaska, we'll see. but it is far from over six months out. >> there's perhaps month more watched senate race in the country than the one in north carolina. last night, republican thomas till itsis, the state house speaker avoided a costly runoff by beating opponents who have backing by the tea party. and people like senator rand paul and mike huckabee. tillis' victory is being hailed as a win for the establishment. >> it's not the end of a primary. it's the beginning of a primary mission. and to beat kay hagan and to make harry reid irrelevant american. >> it comes from massive outspending from the chamber of commerce and groups like american cross roads. he faces a tough showdown this fall with kay hagan who has easily won her primary. hagan has raised millions and has millions more from democratic leaning groups. >> steve schmitt, the empire strikes back because the establishment is not allowing these todd akin-type candidates to stumble in. the chamber, nra, cross roads, they're getting involved fast. >> the insumpence of pragmatism inside the republican parties when it comes to the races. we've talked about it before. just a remarkable history in the republican party. giving up six senate seats over two election cycles with deeply flawed candidates. i think that's what motivates people in washington, d.c. you get up every morning, if you're working to elect republican candidates, fearful that we're going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. >> we did if in 2010 and we did it in 2012. you go out, i don't care what the crowd is, you could be speaking to a majority tea party crowd and you could deliver the message, it's about -- do you want to change the world? you got to win elections. they get it and more and more republicans are getting it. moral victories -- >> i don't know about that. >> should have been beaten in 2010 but for a very deeply flawed candidate. harry reid is able to continue on in the united states senate, though i think brian sandoval is likely to run against him and will beat him badly in two years. but he shouldn't be the senate majority leader is the point. in kentucky republican matt bevan is challenging mitch mcconnell - he's the cockfighting guy, right? >> there's the cockfighting guy and the castration candidate. it's all interesting. >> this is the cockfighting guy. the castration candidate is doing well. but the cockfighting guy not doing so well. he can't figure out whether he likes cockfighting -- it's kind of like the john kerry spin on the war. i was for the war before i was against it. matt bevan was for cockfighting before he wasn't. i would have never stumbled into a back road and gone to a cockfighting rally? >> never. >> never, ever. >> we're going to fact-check that. >> you better. >> it is so horrible. why don't you go at all macintosh and see. >> really, that's by the grace of god -- i don't think so. >> judge not. judge not. okay, anyway, the cockfighting candidate, what happened? >> monday, his target, leading democrat in the race, allison lunder gran grimes. >> hay hand on a variation, she's young, she's new, she's a woman and she's not mitch mcconnell. and all of those, while they're not -- they're really enough to beat mitch mcconnell. so the reality essentially for all the competitive advantages she then is forced to run against me by talking about issues. by talking about vision. by talking about experience. and she really has none of those on any of those fronts. she really doesn't. >> okay. the cockfighting candidate. >> that was him. >> joining us from washington nbc news and host of the "the daily rundown," chuck todd. >> chuck, you're a political director. does matt bevin support cockfighting or not -- >> what do you think he has to say about his female opponents? >> this is always dangerous when you talk about the life experience. it comes across as condescen condescending. it comes across to younger folks. this is frustration when you talk to younger voters who think, you know what, this younger generation hasn't exactly wowed the country and how they should run the country. whose to say you should tell us about your life experiences. it's sort of a double and coming around condescending. as to the cockfighting thing, look, you've got to give mcconnell credit, they've been very aggressive of trying to find a couple things to stick on bevin to make him seem cookie. and saying, whoa, this guy is kooky. by saying, hey, man, this guy is way out. this is not about whether or not you think mitch mcconnell is conservative enough, do you want that guy. >> do we have a count on how many times we said "cockfighting"? >> it's a good day for him if you're saying that word. >> is there a big cockfighting lobby? who's he worrying about angering by coming out against cockfighting? >> you said it two more times. there must be a big enough constituency because he wasn't to a rally. >> let me find out from the commissioner of the league. >> commissioner of the kentucky cockfighting league. let me ask you about bengha benghazi. i want to ask quickly. do you see any dangers for republicans if they overreach? and i said in the last hour, democrats need to be worried. they need to be involved in this. because four americans died, first ambassador killed on duty since 1979. this is a huge deal. the white house has bungled it. we're still getting e-mails trickling up. they need to be involved. if they don't, they're in trouble. >> i think politically it will damage them. >> what about republicans, though? what are the republican dangers, what would you advise trey gowdy and other republicans? >> there's a very thin line between investigative hearing between serious and kangaroo court. and we've quickly drifted over the line into kangaroo court space. and if we do that, it will backfire. and going after hillary clinton gratuitously, as opposed to making this a serious, probing -- >> are you concerned about that, that there may be -- >> i'm very concerned about it. that's the nature. and that's really the gravitational drift of these things. >> let me ask you, chuck. what do you see? and what does the white house see on the benghazi deal? does the white house think they have to be involved? >> well, i think the white house would like to make sure if there's going to be a committee that, yes, they have some allies on the committee. but let me just make -- i don't understand why the republicans didn't say to nancy pelosi, she said she wants an even split. you know, and instead of beating her up and saying well she didn't call for an even foot before, say, okay, great. you believe this committee should be. you know what, that's fine, we'll do an even split, let's go. because it goes to steve's point there. it will allow the republicans to get in legitimacy for this. the way they rolled this out, it feels very political. it feels very hand handed. if they accept nancy pelosi's terms immediately, they get some of the high ground back. and theycy-k say, well, it's fully bipartisan. we're doing it the way the way that nancy pelosi wants to set this up. we get legitimacy back to this. right now, it looks like nothing more than a partisan stunt. >> chuck, we'll see you at the top of the 8:00 hour. steve stay with us. jim vandehi, thank you. still ahead -- really, it's fine. still ahead, congressman trey gowdy will tell us how he plans to overcome a boy cost his benghazi investigation. and then senator claire mccaskill is here. it's going to be a packed 8:00 hour. we'll explain why democrats don't even come close to page the bill for what they want to accomplish. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. we asked people a question, how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? 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>> well, you can pay for it. the kind of thing that a democrat runs on in 2014, it doesn't come anywhere close. it honestly isn't where the obama budget is. for more than ten years and it begins to run out of money as well. when you take in the full expanse what liberals think would be good to do for the country. to pay for that, you need to turn to the kind of things you see in the house budget and the congressional black budget. what you see are tax increases that go on people making about $117,000 for one thing. and then you see broad-based different kinds of consumption taxes. for instance, a big carbon tox which would be good for all kinds reasons related to the environment. but when you're using that to pay for big things, you're using that to a level that no mainstream politician has come close to endorsinendorsing. >> what kind of tax when you say people earning $117,000, what type of rate would you need to tax people making $117,000 to pay for the agenda? >> so one of the things that's happening there, you're lifting the cap on the social security tax. so right now, the tax is a tax that ends at about $117,000. if i'm off by a few thousand, i'm going by memory. and the budget would simply lift that. and that would bring in a ton of money over time. but it would mean an automatic 6% or 12% depending on how you want to count it, marginal tax increase on people making income above $117,000. that is a recently progressive change because right now everybody less than $117,000 is already paying that tax. everybody above is exempt from that tax. but it's a change from those making a whole lot less than $250,000. >> ezra, for the ill-informed, that would be me, who pays the carbon tax, explain it? >> a carbon tax say tax, what you're doing there, you're taxing essentially the energy intensity of different taxes. you're taxing how much carbon is emitted when you make a car, when you make a piece of styrofoam. whatever you might make. that tax in ways you do it gets assessed through a production process. and it ends up being something, depending on how you want to do it, a sales tax. so things that have a lot of carbon in the production process would have more tax on them. things with less carbon would have less. it's important to carve b kv out, this isn't like an income tax. the point of this tax is not simply to raise money. the point of this tax is to push the economy to encourage lower carbon products. so that we begin to slow the spread of global warming. >> all right. ezra -- >> hey, ezra, willie, congrats on what you're ogg at vox over there. >> i want to go on another thing which is getting a job out of college which is a concern to so many people, graduates, their parents. you say the most recent college graduates who finish 2010 or later are least likely to be employed out of a survey of 30,000 graduates. how dire is the problem and how do we attack it? >> for that group of people who graduated college in 2010, the un or underemployment rate, people who have part-time jobs, 17%. for people who graduated 2002 and 2010 it is about 9%. you're dealing with nearly one-fifth unemployment rate. in terms how do we tackle that, how do we get jobs, more to stimulate the economy. but the truth is anybody who has had any relationship with congress and watching this knows we're not going to do anything about it. the good news here, there is good news. the under employment rate is coming down. in the article, it's about 40% if you did the same calculation in 2012 so that is good news. the economy is getting better. the labor market is getting better. but this is still a pretty bad labor market. a lot of folks who did everything they need to do to get ahead, it's not quite that bad. >> elizabeth warren has a plan to help people with loans for refinancing? >> yeah. this is an interesting one. it's a plan that would basically allow folks with student loans to refinance them easily. interest rates have been incredibly low in part to the bad economy, in part to the federal reserve doing absolutely everything it can to keep interest rates low. the way it's restructured it's impossible to refinance the way you would refinance a home loan. elizabeth warren would make that possible. he would have everybody refinance a student loan so if you got a student loan back when the interest rate was three or four or five percentage points higher, you'd be saving a lot of money. the way she pays for it to go back to the piece, the buffett tax, at least in part. but it is a change that would give student barrowers, again, we just spoke how a lot of them are not having an easy pass to a job. it is giving relief. what they're trying to do is stimulate the economy. this is place where congress could work in concert with the federal reserve rather than what's has happened in the last couple years working against the federal reserve's efforts to make the economy better. >> ezra klein, thank you so much. julie pace, thank you as well. coming up, the one issue that's managed to bring together democrats caroline maloney and patricia blackburn. we'll tell you what it is next on "morning joe." 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>> i have great respect, joe, for anything that can get that fragile past the united states congress. when it's over, they say, oh, that looks so easy. that's what you should have done. we passed it twice. once it passed in the senate and failed in the house. marsha and i have teamed up. we've both made it a top pry yoort and worked on it every single day to build support. to build the support of our leadership. marsha has done an incredible job of getting the leadership of her part to support it. and i've also gotten the leadership of mine to support it. we hope that three times is the charm. it's my hope in 2020 which would be the 100th anniversary of women gaining the right to vote we would open the doors of the doors of the women's museum near the mall. >> one of the things that many don't reallyize, that women's suffrage started in new york. and the right to vote was in tennessee. >> two states have come together again. >> congresswoman blackburn, i want to ask you one other thing, which is the keystone pipeline. obviously, your party got huge desire to get this moving. what do you think it will take to get the administration to approve this? >> it looks like senator mansion and landrieu have taken the lead in the senate. when you listen to senator mansi manchin, he said he's got the votes. we hope there will not be a kill pill in it. and it will go through and it's up to the president to sign it. and i think he should sign it. you're talking about jobs. you're talking about an economic boost. especially in states that -- gulf coast state. >> carolyn, just so we can totally break the bipartisanship up, what's your view on keystone? >> uh-oh. keystone -- well, let's focus on building this museum and making it happen. >> there you go. >> the vote is going to be on, we hope it's unanimous. less move forward. we hope to inspire a new generation of leaders. there's not one womens museum on the mall. although were are museums on stamps and law and order and everything else but there's not one in the united states that i can find that's just devoted totally to the contributions of women. and i can't even find one in the world. so this will be an absolute first. and women -- it's been large eye ignored of the 213 statues in the capitol, only a few of women. and the national parks, only two of women. >> hold on one second. i love the idea. i'm the first person to say this is a good idea. can we ask you two about keystone? 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>> it's going to be close. thank you, derrick kitts. >> i'm surprised walker in wisconsin, tied 47/47. i thought walker was clear on that. >> well, he's had a contentious time in texas. he's been involved in controversy, he's a governor who has gone in there who has enacted an agenda. a lot of reforms. it's going to be a close race. i wouldn't count scott walker out of it. he's shown a lot of resiliency. >> she's a good candidate and pretty well-known. and steve said it, the structure of the race, it's a blue to purple state, and he's been controversial. so he's got a floor of support but also a ceiling. he's not going to get 55% of the vote here. once you're below that, you're in danger of losing it. same with john kasich in ohio. if they wanted to run for president, first, they've got to win the tough elections. coming up at 8:00, ronan farrow is going to be here. we've had nice quality time at the "vanity fair" party. it's complicated -- >> yeah. anyway, luke is here. >> hi, luke. >> the fifth anniversary of his father's book. we're going to take a look at tim's lasting legacy with mike barnicle and, of course, luke. next on "morning joe." when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. we know we're not the center of your life, but we'll do our best to help you connect to what is. he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. when sales rep steve hatfield books at laquinta.com, so he knows exactly when he can prep for his presentation. and when steve is perfectly prepped, ya know what he brings? 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>> now at 83, dad has slowed down. still, he won't ask for help and will not consider a retirement home. >> that was a 2007 report by the late legendary broadcaster tim russert. and here with us now is tim's son and nbc news correspondent luke russert. russert wrote the prefer for the edition. luke, "big russ & me." it's great to hear his voice. >> it's a wonderful thing, people often go to me and they say -- they recognize me in an airport or coffee shop. they try and place me. oh, you're tim russert's son. some people think that gets old. it never gets old for me. it's endearing or heartwarming. sometimes, i get a pat on the back. >> i can't tell you what happened to your dad. it happens all the time. there's just a hush that goes over the crowd. it really is, it's remarkable. i can't think of another public figure whose name we talk about or bring up. and the reference for your father all these years later, nothing short of extraordinary. >> tv still remains an mri machine to people out there. the mri machine that is tv gave them an accurate portrayal of a guy who wasn't talking down to anyone, a guy who was there to get a job done for people watching tv, for presenting the news with very little spin or twist and he was going to ask what you wanted to find out. >> one of the lessons that my grandfather taught him and hopefully it's been passed down to me is that you're always loved but you're never entitled, the world doesn't owe you a favor. and sometimes in media i think we see that people for get who they're there for. you can relate, mike, to great gr growing up with the nuns -- >> sister lucille. >> that he had to seek out the truth. what you learned in law school, to seek the truth. but he really believed that sincerely. it wasn't just something he said. as reverend jesse jackson once said, he died with his work shoes on. >> president bush had just returned from an overseas trip and came to the wake and the bribely. the president could not have been better that day with the family. but sister lucille was first in line. the president of the united states came into the library and he walked in and walked offer to sister lucille. he said you must have taught sister lucille and she said, yes, i did. he said what grade did you teach him because you did a good job. and she said, "i teach seventh grade" and he looked at her and said "ooh, that's a hard within." >> i think there is a responsibility you have to find the truth and seek the truth but you also have to be tough on politicians. i think nothing upset him more when certain journalists were overly cozy with politicians. there's an idea you're here on behalf of the american and you can't back down. in your book you talk about how my father kept pressing hillary clinton about obtaining an illegal driver's license. that was unraveling of the campaign, and he didn't apologize for it. he said you can do it in a way of being objective. >> mike barnicle, we have a picture. >> it's a famous game, famous game. up there on nantucket. the barnicles and the russerts playing a little touch football. >> what year is that, mike? >> probably '92. >> '92. >> my physique hasn't changed that much. i didn't have a sibling -- >> the barnicles are tougher but they're also cheats. >> thank you for sharing. >> pick up the book. >> we will. the tenth anniversary edition of "big russ & me" is out. >> things wouldn't be okay if -- >> give me the money you owe me, give it to me! give it to me! >> the cat dragged in barnicle. >> they say there's not a homeless problem in new hampshire? look at this. on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know that game show hosts should only host game shows? samantha, do you take kevin as your lawfully wedded husband... or would you rather have a new caaaaaar!!!! say hello to the season's hottest convertible... ohhh....and say goodbye to samantha. 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>> i have to get permission. >> no, don't. come on. >> i think hillary clinton is the best democratic candidate in the field. i endorse her over any others. >> no. there are no others. he's ready for hillary. >> a vote on the keystone pipeline has been delayed indefini indefinitely. yesterday reid put his foot down with his colleagues on the right over how many amendments could be put on the bill. >> working with my senate colleagues reminds me of chasing a pig in a greased pig contest. every time we get close to making progress, we see it slip through our hands and it slips away. they want a vote on keystone and it's not good enough for them. they add four, five more amendments. it's never quite enough. >> harry reid quite upset. they did pass a most to proceed. republicans have been out of the mainstream over the past several years on a lot of issues. steve and i believe and a lot of others believe democrats are really out of touch on these energy issues. an energy revolution is coming up. if you read my feed yesterday to see the extremism from the far left and none as soon as sense e are saying we should fuel with wind. ask boone pickens the business model for that. he's lot a billion dollars doing that. where are you on keystone and what will transform the economy and bring jobs back to good working class people. >> we had 70 permits for deep fracking of shale. my last year as governor we had 3,300. i believe fracking can be done in an environmentally safe way, but the pennsylvania economy did very, very well with fracking. a lot of people who thought they would die poor got royalties on their land and did well. it created a lot of good paying jobs. it was good for the economy and energy independence is crucial for this country. but that means we have to use all sources of energy. i'm for the keystone pipeline but only if we pass a co comprehensive bill for -- >> so it's all of the above. it's oil, natural gas but also the alternative energies as well. we can do two things at one. it's not a zero sum game. you're not go to create an energy revolution that you only want to chew on a granola bar at the base of a windmill somewhere. >> pennsylvania was the third highest state in the nation in what was called green energy jobs. energy independence is not on the key to our economy but i also think it's the key to our national security. >> amen. >> there are growing questions about the size and scope of the new congressional panel or benghazi. a house resolution says there will be a republican majority with seven republicans and five democrats. minority leader nancy pelosi objected to the unequal balance. some have suggested boycotting the committee. and in part it was said "i would be dead set against it, i'm not bringing a noose to my hanging," said jim clyburn. >> and here we have a question for you, congressman. >> you said you had evidence of a coverup in benghazi. i wonder if you can tell us what that coverup is. >> you have the same document being produced at judicial watch that was produced to congress but with different redactions. that's one example of having discovery that you can't rely on. so with respect to whether it's documents or witnesses, i want to assure myself that we have every document that we're entitled to, then we can quarrel about the classification and i want to talk to every witness who has firsthand knowledge. i can't aside motive to people, whether or not they fail to turn over a document in terms of negligence or intent -- we don't have the document. >> what's your response to the white house saying that want about benghazi specifically, it was more generally about the middle east? >> well, how many people were harmed in the middle east during that time period? the second goal or third goal of ben rhodes' momeemo was to brin countries to justice for harming our citizens. what else was being discussed other than benghazi? jay carney has done a good job of explaining some this evening. that was not one of his better jobs. >> what are your unanswered questions about you suspect that he did? >> i'm an old prosecutor. i'm not going to suspect what he did. i think he can clear it up by telling us what he did. people can judge for themselves. that's a part for the benghazi. that's a part of the story but not the biggest part of what the president was doing during that time period. only he can answer that. he certainly hasn't been asked by congress. whether or not he's been asked for the media, i will leave for y'all to research. >> sir, with all due respect, it sounds like you have a lot of questions. there have been investigatiseve investigations and questions. where does an investigation and a coverup begin? i want to know black and white, was there a coverup and do you have evidence? >> the talking points changed multiple times. the first iteration did not contain the talking points the last one did. there are lots of reasons for this. i know folks like to use the word coverup. i prefer to use evidence. i need all the evidence, unredacted and access to all the witnesses and then you are welcome to draw whatever conclusions you want but you can't draw any conclusions if you don't have the evidence. >> mika, i got to say this, so. when i was practicing law, if the other side asked me to produce documentation involved in an incident and i did what the white house did and i kept an e-mail that goes to the heart of it and i didn't produce it, i would be one nervous attorney because the judge could hold me in contempt of court, in a civil case or criminal case, for withholding information. i don't know if you call that a coverup or not. i know if an attorney did that in private practice, he or she would be in big trouble. >> i'll come back at you and say i've been very critical about how the whole roll-out of benghazi happened, with susan rice being put on "meet the press" and i'm skeptical about what trey gowdy is say, as well. you can say you have a cover up and you can say you have questions still because there's been 30 investigations. it's somewhere in the middle. what are you talking about? >> there have been investigations? >> we just had the evidence last week. there are a lot of people who say when you ask for an e-mail, all information involving this, which we all know the white house want straight forward on and then we find an e-mail just from last week where that are directing susan rice to steer it away from what really happened and talk about a video, there are a lot of americans that think that constitutes a coverup. >> the memo i think is evidence of a cover up but, joe, you have to keep in mind that every change that mike morrell made to the talking points sanitized or immunized the administration from criticism. initially they were critical of the state department for missing every sign and signal in libya of escalating violence. he's the one who inserted spontaneous reaction or protest and despite the fact that the station chief and greg hooks said that's not true. i know mika wants me to choose between unanswered questions and a coverup. you can have both. the the only way you can sort all of this out is to have access to all of the documents in a timely fashion and sort it all. >> you called yourself an old prosecutor. tell us as a prosecutor what is the single most important question about benghazi that has been unanswered. >> for me personally why our administration missed episode of violence after episode of violence in libya leading up to september 11th, 2012, an attack on the british ambassador, an attack on the international red cross, an attack on our facility in benghazi on the night where our four fellow citizens were murdered. others would go to the talking points, some would go to the military response but i want to know why when we had -- we were placed on actual notice that benghazi is a dangerous place, why were we still there? >> chuck todd. >> congressman gowdy, you've heard that nancy pelosi would like it to be an even number on the select committee. some democrats are talking about boycotting it. if you've got the house democratic leader already ready to negotiate on the size of the committee, why not take her up on it? doesn't it help the investigation credibility if it is an even number. >> the house committee isn't an even number -- >> i staunderstand that but don you want to -- this has a whiff of politics to it, more than a whiff. don't you agree if you accept her terms you'd get more cr credibili credibility, which i assume is something you want. >> i do want credibility and i encourage you to watch the process. there are more republicans in the house than democrats. simply because something is evenly distributed doesn't mean it's tied to credibility. they went from boycotting it to asking it to be evenly constituted. there's no other committee in congress other than ethics, which is an entity of itself, and if you look at the history, when she had an opportunity to provide an evenly constituted committee, she passed on it. it can be fair and still dominated by one party or another and my challenge is at the end of this for you to say he's not very smart but he was fair. >> congressman gowdy, the whiff of politics that todd is talking about is basically the base of mid terms is running off of benghazi. do you agree? >> the white house going out on benghazi, would you suggest your fellow members while this investigation is going on they not use benghazi for fund-raising purposes? >> yes, and i will cite myself as an example. i have never sought to raise a single penny on the backs of four murdered americans. so to the extent that they would look to me as some evidence of what's appropriate and what's not, there are two -- still, even if a culture of hyper partisanship, scertain things that ought to be above politics. >> yesterday some people were bringing up around the set concerns that you could have a committee that could have one subpoena after another subpoena going out all the way through 2016, going after hillary clinton, going into the election campaign. do you think there should be a limit on how long the subpoena power should be for the committee, a limit to the scope so people don't say, hey, you republicans, you're just doing this to go after hillary? >> part of the answer to that depends upon how compliant the administration is with the subpoena. if the administration is slow walking document production, i can't end a trial because they won't cooperate. you go back and look at my 16-year career as a prosecutor and you're going to find defense attorneys that say, look, i thought my client was innocent but the guy gave me a fair trial. you can say he's not smart, his suit doesn't match, bad hair cut, no one will say he isn't fair. and you will say the same thing. >> let me say, i followed your career and i do wonder about the hair cut. no, it's a good hair cut, it a good suit. trey, thanks for being with us. good luck on getting to the bottom of what really happened on september 11th. >> chuck, we'll see you at 9:00. ed rendell, michael steele, stay with us. >> michael just wouldn't stop talking in that segment. >> he was out of control. he was going all eugene roberts on us. >> he went all vandehei on us as well. >> stay with us. the cardinals have a better record than red sox and i think i owe her a big apology, mika, because you told us not to go to st. louis. >> good morning, everyone. we're continuing to watch the central plains and areas through the southwest. you're in a drought situation now. the white house yesterday was saying the temperatures will ten to go up by 2 to 4 degrees over the next hundred years. and the way a lot of us will feel this is heat waves and drought and lack of water. that's kind of the deal we have right now. it also mentioned possibility of increased hurricane activity and also flooding. there are some benefits of global warming and climate change. this morning we watching rain just south of pittsburgh and thunderstorms that could make a run at washington, d.c. this afternoon. as far as the southwest, yesterday was 99 in witchitawic kansas. the drought is quickly getting worse and windy weather, fire warning in this area. i don't think we're going to see tornadoes in this area like last week. in washington, d.c., a pretty nice shot of the white house on a beautiful day. more "morning joe" to come. 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>> before benghazi i had hearings on, security. we had real issues in afghanistan on embassy security. these are contracted positions. i believe strongly all of our embassies should not be protected by contract personnel but rather by our military. but obviously with the pressures, the financial pressures that we have trying to cut our budgets, it is now deciding that this is priority when there are so many privates that we ha -- priorities we have to fund. >> my brother can't go anywhere alone. >> the administrative review board that the government commissioned to look at benghazi, they had real substantive recommendations, including for covert posts like, there you're able to transfer some of the oversee funding for like this. >> that's a big question. >> we are losing sight of that on the hill. what do you think? >> i think that's probably true. i don't think that -- hillary clinton was really criticized, you know, for what does it matter that, quote, they'd taken out of context. what she was trying to emphasize in her testimony is that now it's most important, this was a tragedy, it's a terrible thing that happened is making sure we prevent it going forward. there's been so much focus in trying to extract political points on benghazi, a lot of people have lost sight of the fact we still haven't gotten it fixed. >> and the fact of the matter is hillary clinton was on the hill begging for more money for securi security. >> yes, she was. >> what's going to happen with the pipeline? >> the notion is why can't we do it safely through the united states? clearly all of the studies have indicated we can do it safely through the united states. so i'm for it. >> what's going to happen, though? >> i think we're going to have a vote. i think there's 11 democrats who have signed on to support it. clearly the votes are there to pass the keystone pipeline in the united states senate. >> michael steele has a question for you. >> following up on the pipeline, in addition to the idea of getting this passed, what do you see longer term in terms of the senate and house coming together around some comprehensive solutions? joe and others were mentioning the bottom up, include the entire package. is there a real desire to do something like that so you doesn't get bogged done on key stone but the senate is looking to lead the country on energy? >> one of the story that's not being told here is we've had a surge of energy production in this country and now less than half of our needs are being met by foreign oil because we have increased our energy production so much. getting our house together, that's really hard. any time we try to bring this comprehensive energy bill up on the floor, they keep moving -- it's like charlie brown. they keep moving the goalpost. first they just wanted to vote on keystone. okay, you got a vote. now they want more amendments. okay, now they want more amendments. it's almost look they don't want to us get anything done because they think it helps them politically. >> michael stone, what are your thoughts? >> i think they should. even more so than benghazi, i think this is a real issue for republicans because it cuts into a couple of things. it cuts into the whole conversation about jobs. and what actually can be done to spur this economy as we just saw the report that came out last week about the growth in the first quarter being as anemic as it was. i think that was a real benchmark moment for the gop. for senator mccaskill's point, let's stop moving the football here and define what the football is and talk about it in a way that i think will rally the american people and sort of peel back some of the politics. i think the administration is really on the hook on this issue. as the senator noted, there are 11 democrats ready to move on this thing. the white house is the stick in the mud here and they're playing politics here. i think the republican party and republican leadership can really bring that point home because it is affecting jobs right now. not 20 years from now, right now. >> senator claire mccaskill, it's always great to you have on the show. thank you. >> thank you. and i love your t-shirt, mika. next time i'm back, let's talk about sexual assault on college campuses. >> would have love to do that. >> joe, i love you, too. >> i love you, claire. >> kind of, kind of. >> he doesn't deserve that. >> no, i'm going to work on the grounds crew. i'm going to get out of that dog house. trust me. >> yahoo! is set to been fit from alibaba's ipo. but first, a look at how technology can transform government. 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>> how did that happen? >> the white house council on women and girls took a deep dive into what is the source of the women's pay gap? and and your story unspierd us to open up a data competition where we invited the private sector, including sites like salary.com, who voluntarily opened up their secret data to have women have new tools to negotiate their case in the workplace. >> oh, my lord! >> we talked about the meeting before healthcare.gov was launched. i said as a republican i was against the policy. i said if this works the way you tell me it works, you can expand this to v.a., to social security. you can create innovation that will put people closer to their government. have i have to ask what went so terribly wrong? >> we have a culture now if the government put up a fair and open competition to create a health care.g -- healthcare.gov because the bidders who compete almost immediately protest if they lose -- >> how did that happen? >> they did it off a limited set of vendors who had already been working with the government. you had a smaller pool of people competing -- >> so competition. >> lower the barriers to entry, expand opportunity. that's the formula for most success. >> ronnan. >> and it's about the technology that's used when you can go online -- >> my colleague in the white house actually put forward a cloud-first policy where we changed the default setting around how we acquire technology to be much more aligned with what the private sector is doing today. i would go a step further. healthcare.gov actually had its predecessor that went live in july of 2010 built on all the modern technologies in less than 90 days with no big governor procurement but my successor, todd park and former colleague meg and, led this team, a band of brothers and sisters of internal and external experts and built a robust site that was so successful, u.s. news and world report has powered their version with the data. >> there are some states, new york and maryland are two examples -- openness by default is the model, secretary clinton convened about 50 heads of state to -- you have case examples all over the world, even using lesser means of technology, india has people writing chalk on the wall open data, who is getting paid for what and what purpose. >> they do not. >> yes, they do. >> what happens after it's written on the wall. >> it creates accountability. >> i have to step in. it's something where a lot of governments got a chance to give platitudes about transparency but there are members that are terrible at transparency. how do you respond to that? 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unrest has nearly paralyzed the government. the army chief cited a 1914 law that gives the authority to intervene during times of crisis. well, charges of cyberspy rg3 putting a strain on relations between china and the u.s. the justice department charged five chinese military officers with hacking into the computers of several u.s. companies to steal trade secrets. it is the first ever criminal charges against officials of a foreign government for stealing u.s. economic secrets by computer. >> cybertheft impacts real people in real and painful ways. the lifeblood of any organization is the people who work, strive and sweat for it. >> china says the charges are based on fabricated facts. well, with the resurgence of polio in pakistan, the white house is promising that the cia will never again use immunization programs for cover for spying operations. it comes three years after they staged a fake program in the hunt for osama bin laden. the pakistani doctor who helped to run the campaign has been jailed for 33 years. the lawyer representing him recently quit the case because of death threats. safety official s are lookig into whether a switch in kitty litters may be blame for a ra radiation leak. 57 barrels were packed with organic kitty litter at the los alamos lab thought to cause a heat reaction and radiation release. the lab has taken a series of measures to make sure the barrels pose no significant risk to the public. all right. time now to get the late nest sports. look who is here. good morning. >> let's get started with the nba and thunder versus spurs. san antonio going into the game winless against oklahoma city all season. tim duncan hits down low scoring two of the spurs' 66 points. tony parker did his part with that right there. that layup. five spurs scoring in double digits but russell westbrook and kevin durant pushed back but it's not enough 122-105 spurs win the opener. on to the donald sterling sag g the league will terminate his ownership rights at a june 3rd hearing. racist remarks led to a lifetime ban and 75% of the owners vote against him, he will be forced to sell the clippers. sterling's attorney asked for a delay. the canadiens score first, thought so fast, the rangers take a 2-1 lead and back to madison square garden. the triple crown, the new york racing commission will allow california chrome to wear nasal strips after all allowing his pursuit of racing's elusive triple crown. deep into right field line, gone and the indians win it. >> the first game winner into the stand, indians beat detroit, 5-4 with the tenth inning solo shot. >> that was nice. yeah, all right, thank you, frances. the u.n. is rallying support for an international aid operation in bosnia serbia because they're experiencing the worst flooding since records began more than 100 years ago. at least 44 have died and tens of thousands are homeless. days of rainfall submerged entire villages you see here and trilogiered landslides across the region. bosnia says more than a quarter of its 4 million have been affected. from that too much to this now which is simply not enough, drought conditions in texas are getting dire. state officials say there are 34 communities that have less than 90 days much water left in their supply. a dozen municipalities mostly west of dallas/ft. worth are reporting that they could actually go dry 45 days or less, one state climatologist says the drought that started four years ago is among the five worst in the past 500 years. all right. let's bring in bill karins. 500 years. >> we weren't taking records back then but through geologists or whoever else they figure these numbers out. really bad drought. >> definitely. >> clearly have water for 45 more days, i think that says enough. as far as what we're dealing with today out there, it's the one-year anniversary of moore, oklahoma, tornado, ef-5 and this storm itself will be remembered with the helicopter flying alongside as we knew it would head through the towns and the facts that went along with this is ef-5s are rare enough, moore has been hit by two in 14 years, unheard of. the path was 17 miles. at one point with 200-mile-per-hour winds it was 1.3 miles wide. it was an incredible tornado and that's why it's going to be one of the historical ones we'll talk about for decades to come. nothing like that. warm throughout the middle of the country. some strong storms later but with wind damage, not so much tornadoes watch out peoria, chicago, indianapolis, columbus and late towards charleston, west virginia but nothing like what we saw a year ago. >> check this out. this is kind of frightening. a police officer in missouri was standing on the passenger side of a car while his partner spoke to the driver. right there, an alleged drunk driver slammed into the officer's cruiser, his name is kenneth lewis and sent him off the bridge and down a 30-foot drop. officer lewis on a job just three months ago is actually recovers in memorial hermann hospital. the driver charged with intoxication assault. all right. >> could have gotten pinned. jill abramson is speaking out plus the u.s. naval academy and the very slippery tradition. we'll explain in a few minutes. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase like 60,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. and i earn 5 times the rewards on internet, phone services and at office supply stores. with ink plus i can choose how to redeem my points. travel, gift cards even cash back. and my rewards points won't expire. so you can make owning business even more rewarding. ink from chase. so you can. down to business. cnbc's seema mody. credit suisse pled guilty to helping wealthy americans pay taxes. the gabank agreed to pay$.6 billion and regulators, that's the largest penalties the u.s. justice department imposed in any criminal tax case. other news, chipotle is asking customers thought to bring firearms into its stores after military-style assault rifles were brought in. chipotle has complied with local laws regarding open and concealed firearms. can you guess the most popular free game on itunes. it's a game that lets you grow and sell virtual marijuana. >> i don't have that app just yet. one year since a deadly tornado swept through moore, oklahoma, 24 killed. hundreds of others injured and thousands of buildings reduced to rubble after the tornado touched down. let's get to nbc's sarah dallof. how is that city recovering, sarah? >> reporter: betty, it's been a difficult and a painful last 12 months but residents are making good on their promise to not only come back but to come back stronger. a year later, the memories in moore, oklahoma, are as fresh -- >> stepped out of the house and seen a tornado about half a mile away. >> reporter: -- as the day the ef-5 tornado tore a 17-mile-long path through the metropolitan area. >> i wouldn't wish it on my absolute worst enemy in the whole world. >> reporter: 25 were killed and more than a thousand homes destroyed including kim and marty's place. they vowed to rebuild and now week as way from finishing their new home. the sounds of construction are sound sounds are here, he remembers the first resident to move back. >> that happened the very first one, i think some of us just about cried because they were so happy. >> reporter: perhaps one of the most emotionally difficult rebuilds that of plaza towers elementary. 9-year-old chris ler legg and six other students killed there. like 60% of oklahoma schools plaza did not have a tornado shelter. the new building will. christoph christopher's mom won't stop until there's one in every school in the state. >> it's not a matter of if a tornado is going to come to oklahoma again, it's a matter of when it's going to happen. >> reporter: preparing for the future with painful lessons learned the past year. residential storm shelters permits have increased dramatically, 8600 issued in the last year compared to just a couple hundred, betty, the year before. >> that's understandable. sarah, thank you. it was certainly a college graduation with a back story. in her first public appearance since her dismissal from "new york times," jill abramson addressed over a thousand new wake forest graduates monday and said she was kind of like a new grad herself. >> you know the stick of losing or not getting something you badly want. when that happens, show what you are made of. sure, losing a job you love hurts, but the work i revered, journalism that holds powerful institutions and people accountable, is what makes our democracy so resilient. what's next for me? i don't know. so i'm in exactly the same boat as many of you. [ laughter ] >> well, in a different and slippery rite of passage freshmen or cleaves took part in a decades old mission to climb to the top of a monument and replace the hat. only problem it is covered in 50 pounds of vegetable shortening. as you can see it took over two hours to get there. we do want to say congratulations to maya rudolph for the launch of her new variety show. sean hayes and fred arm miss sen lent a hand for the opening night festivities. a lot of fun. all right. so joe biden skips the prom. marco rubio on questions about using marijuana. the was a truly amazing day. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most. join today at angieslist.com everin a day is building up layer, upon layer, of bacteria. and to destroy those layers? you need listerine®. its unique formula penetrates these layers deeper than other mouthwashes, killing bacteria all the way down to the bottom layer. so for a cleaner, healthier mouth, go with #1 dentist recommended listerine®. power to your mouth™. also try new listerine® naturals. the only mouthwash that combines the power of listerine® with naturally sourced ingredients. predibut, manufacturings a prettin the united states do. means advanced technology. we learned that technology allows us to be craft oriented. no one's losing their job. there's no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. the technology is actually creating new jobs. siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done. i know what my money is doing. i rebalanced my portfolio on my phone. you know what else i can do on my phone? place trades, get free real time quotes and teleport myself to aruba. i wish. time for scrambled politics. president obama played a round of golf and one of his partners, joe o'neal was a lobbyist for mitt romney's old film bain capital. the white house is dismissing that it violates the pledge of limiting access of lobbyists to the white house. jay carney said i think he played a game of golf. meanwhile -- >> oh, my god! oh, my god. >> how cool is this? that was the reaction when president obama took a surprise detour on his way to a fund-raiser to stop at the little league game of spokesman jay carney's daughter and chatted with the teams while they warmed up and threw out a few pitches before heading on his way. former vice presidential candidate sarah palin is weighing in on hillary clinton's health. in a saar krcastic facebook pos that says, hey, hillary's brain is off-limits. leave her health records alone. democrats are right. scouring records of a female candidate is just politics of personal destruction and adds that at the end, "this just doesn't happen at this respectable level of american politics. just ask me and trig" referring to rumors that circulated around the election that she was the baby's actual birth mother. senator marco rubio says there is no responsible way to ever recreationally use marijuana. in an interview with abc and yahoo! news, and here's what he had to say when asked if he has ever smoked pot. >> here's the problem with that question in american politics. if you say that you did, then suddenly there are people out there saying it's not a big deal. look at all these successful people who did it on the other side side, if you tell people they don't believe you. >> they might be desensitized to misbehaving politicians. only 11% said they were shocked upon hearing a member of congress was arrested for buying cocaine and only 4% were shocked upon hearing a member of congress had an extramarital affair. well, vice president joe biden turned down an invitation to prom from a connecticut high school student but says he's flattered. the vp sent her a wrist corsage and handwritten note that explained his schedule wouldn't permit him to make it but invited her to the white house to meet him instead. right now joined by political analyst ellis. >> biden did right. there is no way for an older guy to go with a young girl to the prom and that seemed a little creepy. >> wrist corsages aren't exactly in. that's the only faux pas i saw. >> this is not cool. this new poll. listen to what it found out where the 2014 elections will actually be decided. likely voters said they would prefer a republican over democrat by 7 points. 41% to 34% and here's what's interesting. a quarter said they were unsure of their preference. what do you think jo. >> dem graphs will focus on the one-quarter because the other numbers are not good. >> i was interested in the fact 25% said, i don't know. >> who the heck knows. democrats are zoob at a disadvantage at this point six months in, right? particularly you've got the president's low ratings and the health care thing continues to be an anchor for democrats. but there's a lot of time to go and the dems will pound the local and other emotional issue, right, to watch the pay equity stuff and immigration reform and maybe gun also come back so, yes to early signs are tough but a long way to go. >> talk about those issues. here's what we found out in the poll it also shows nine in ten said the health care law would be important to determining their vote including 49% who said it would be very important. so is that really going to be the key issue during these midterms? >> a key issue, yes, the key issue, i'm not sure because here's the problem. what do you do? there is not an appetite, a great appetite for totally getting rid of it. a lot of aspects are still pretty popular and so folks say, well, i don't love it but, boy, don't take the good stuff away from me. >> got you. thanks foech sore weighing in today. the very cool ellis heneghan. >> stay away from those proms. coming up, babies' eyebrows and hot new way to preserve your personal space. that's next. i knew what to do with. what i needed was information i could trust on how to take care of me and my baby. luckily, unitedhealthcare has a simple program that helps moms stay on track with their doctors and get the right care and guidance-before and after the baby is born. simple is good right now. 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[ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. time for first buzz. a lot to buzz about. bill is here as well as frances and i guess we have some new words to buzz about. >> we do. so every year they make new words that the miriam webster dictionary adds. naturally this is the kind of the year of the selfie. these are some words that have been added. selfie added. i don't have to tell anybody what that is. got your cell phone. next one, of course, this is a world of social media, hashtag but you know what's great, the love the air hashtag that jimmy fallon has done ef rhyme time you say swieg. tweep. good night, tweeps. >> urban dictionary is like the real one. this one, we thought this would have already been in there, turducken >> that's an old one. >> chicken stuffed in a boneless duck stuffed in a boneless turkey. how do you pronounce this, the fa. >> that is turl lir a real word. so i want to get to this. it's going to raise your eyebrows and, bill, actually has the video for it. it's going to blow your mind. >> babies are cute and babies are funny. >> not a picture of the actual baby. >> these are really responsible parents looking for a good time. >> these poor drawing. >> bad drawing of that one. >> pretty good. >> there's a really good one. >> poor little things. >> very cute. >> that's like a baby with too much botox. >> you're home. you like to -- >> so have you ever been on public transportation, say, the subway here in new york or anywhere and someone is a little close to you. this dress will expand to make sure people aren't standing too close to you. you have your personal space. hey, you could use this. >> dads would like that. >> i think so too. >> that's a lot to carry around. all right, thanks for joining us, everybody. "way too early" with thomas roberts starts right now. it's not destroyed. it's not damaged. it's not water soaked. it's gone. >> it's not a day that goes by that i don't -- that i don't talk to a person who's having trouble with this. does it ever go away? i don't know. >> sometimes i feel pretty worn down from all of it. it's been -- it's been a tough year. >> when people just kind of question why we move back, it just -- i sort of get offended because, you know, this is my neighborhood. this is where i want to be. >> rebuilding a town and a community. moore, oklahoma, one year after one of the most devastating tornados in our nation's history, the stories of survival, healing and the plans to make the neighborhood stronger than it's ever been before. primary day across much of the nation. the recognizable names facing formidable challenges and the races that could have a larger impact on the elections in november. and the nba strikes back. new details on its plan to get donald sterling out of the owner's box and how many expect the billionaire to respond. this is "way too early" live from moore, oklahoma. hi, i'm thomas roberts. it is thursday, may 20th. welcome to "way too early." standing in front of plaza tower elementary school. this was one of the most hard-hit schools in the area. it lost seven children, but the devastating tornado that came through this area is one of the worst in american history. in all, 24 died.

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eventually rescued. >> what a scary job. >> "fox & friends" starts right now. have a great day. good morning. today is monday, the 4th of august, 2014. i'm anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. we start with a fox news alert. ebola in the united states, one infected peasht -- patient here and another on the way. plus a scare at an airport in the u.k. after a passenger suddenly died after getting off the plane. developing details ahead. >> another story breaking overnight. contaminated water in ohio has half million people on edge this morning. residents are being told don't drink it, don't touch it and you can't boil it. it makes it worse. new tests just in. we'll have a live report from toledo. >> as democrats run away from president obama, the most wanted man in america turns out to be -- drum roll please -- mitt romney. why the former presidential candidate is in high demand on the campaign trail. mornings are vastly superior with friends. ♪ ♪ >> it's "fox & friends." >> welcome to monday morning. today we're all anna'd out and all turk'd -- all tucker'd out. >> great to be here. we've got a big show coming up. rascal flatts have a new album out, great to our troops and we'll be talking about their life on the road this summer. >> plus donald trump and bret baier. right now a fox news alert. americans are panicked over a possible ebola outbreak here in the united states as a second patient is set to arrive in atlanta. >> ainsley earhardt joins us with the latest on the deadly virus. good morning, ainsley. >> good morning, guys. the outbreak of the ebola virus causing fear that it could spread beyond the borders of western africa here into the united states. some americans are fearing for publicly safety after dr. kent brantley arrived here to undergo treatment at a special isolation unit at emory hospital. >> he appears to be improving and that's encouraging. in fact action it's probably the case that people who are well nourished and healthy, if they get the deadly disease do better than those who may be in more tenuous health as many of the patients who are tragically dying of ebola in africa. >> the rising death toll in africa are causing some americans to worry it could happen here but the c. dment c. says the -- c.d.c. says the risk to the public is near zero because of the extreme protective measures they are taking. >> ebola is deadly. it is understandable to be scared of it. but we know how to stop t. infection control in hospitals and stopping it at the source in africa which is the single-most important thing we can do not just to save lives but to protect ourselves as well. >> there's that second person battling ebola, the nurse, also an american missionary is expected to arrive at emory under the same precautions tomorrow. on saturday a passenger from sierra leone which is in the grip of that virus, collapsed and died at an airport in london but u.k. officials insist her death is not because of the ebola virus. back to you guys in the studio. >> coming up in ten minutes we'll be talking to a doctor about what americans need to know about ebola. should we be worried about this. how is it treated and what if you're traveling abroad. what do you need to know? >> to see that doctor get out of the ambulance on friday on his own power and now the news that he is doing better. >> what a great guy. so impressed by that. >> the nurse comes here tomorrow. in the meantime we turn to heather nauert and heather is going to talk to us about something scary in toledo. from a crisis here to a crisis here. in america's heartland another fox news alert. toledo ohio, overnight there are new tests revealing that drinking water is still contaminated with an algae toxin. it is coming from lake ere. that water doctors say can make you extremely sick. it is in fact so dangerous that your pets can't drink it and not even your children can bathe in it. and boiling that water which a lot of people tend to do thinking that sterilizes the water, that makes it worse. toledo's mayor says more testing needs to be done. >> i'm not going to make a decision and then turn around 24 hours later and say we're back to where we were. that would be absolutely irresponsible. >> officials are saying if you've been exposed to that toxic water see a doctor immediately. >> new investments on the search for -- new investments on the search for a missing oregon mother. video from a ferry boat last week that may show jennifer huston and her car headed to san juan island off the coast of washington state. investigators and her family are waiting word from the ferry captain analyzing that tape. jennifer and her family reportedly planned a trip to that island for the summer and the family now wondering if she decided to go there alone. coming up at 8:15 this morning on "fox & friends" her husband and father will talk about the search. >> will a marine held in a mexican prison be released today? hours from now sergeant andrew tahmooressi will be back in court, back home in florida, his friends and family praying for his safe return. it has been four months since he was arrested for crossing the border with legal guns in his car and now there is a chance the case could be dismissed altogether. >> when i spoke to him over the phone, his lawyer is going to present additional evidence. the paper work that was submitted was submitted not on the proper date of his incarceration and when he dealt with them. they are going to aim for a mistrial. >> tahmooressi's legal fees are mounting. the family saying it could cost as much as $10,000 in order to free him. marine corporal robert smith served his country in iraq and now he's serving his community in florida. corporal smith lost one of his legs while fighting overseas but that is not holding him back from flicker his life long goal of -- accomplishing his life long goal of becoming a sheriff's deputy. >> if you have a dream go for it. don't let anything hold you back. if you don't think you can do it, don't live your life wondering. give it a try. >> what a lucky community they have in having that man there. >> on friday the house of representatives did grant that big supplemental to provide money to process these kids who are in the country illegally but it doesn't matter because the senate is already gone and it doesn't matter because the president already said that he would veto it. now we have the senior advisor to the president of the united states, dan pfeiffer, on one of the sunday chat shows saying because congress didn't act -- i guess he was talking about the democrats in the senate regarding that, the senate is going to have to by executive order grand amnesty to millions. here is dan pfeiffer. >> congress will still need to act but because of congress's failure to fix the immigration system and pass the supplemental appropriations, the president has no choice but to act. >> it will be in september? >> it will be at the end of this summer. >> sounds reasonable. >> right. >> the congress won't act so the president has to because that's the way our government works; right? >> he'll just break the law. >> the man who once taught constitutional law at one point recognized that moves like this are explicitly unconstitutional. listen to the old obama address situations like this. >> if in fact i could solve all these problems without passing laws in congress, then i would do so. but we're also a nation of laws. there are enough laws on the books by congress that are very clear in terms of how we have to enforce our immigration system. that for me to simply through executive order ignore those congressional mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as president. >> we live in a democracy. you have to pass bills through the legislature and then i can sign it. >> hypocrisy alert. can he or can't he? if the president is admittedly breaking the law what does congress need to do about it? >> we shouldn't mistake these executive orders. we don't know the full parameters of this. apparently as of this morning it looks like the president is set to give amnesty to about half the illegals living in this country. no president has done anything of this magnitude by executive order. >> you know what? if he grants amnesty, if the mainstream media says it is legal and reasonable because congress wouldn't act, that would be so extraordinary because it is clearly illegal what he would do for the mainstream media to say that it would show how corrupt they are. >> or what bad memories they have. this is normal. make no mistake, the distinction you saw between the obama of two years ago and today that is the result of pressure by lobbyists barking at his advisors saying we're not going to vote for you unless you do this. they caved. >> what is on the president's desk now, what he is considering is what would grant amnesty to about five million illegal immigrants. one of the ideas is if they have family members here and if they have been law abiding while here. isn't that kind of an oxymoron? illegal immigrants? following the law? this doesn't make sense, does it? >> there is one other tantalizing thing. remember we've talked on this program a number of times about mitt romney. it turns out mitt romney was right about so much stuff. he was right about russia. he was right about the affordable care act. he was right about mali. now as it turns out as we head into the election season coming up in november, who is in demand? is it president obama? no. democrats don't want him showing up. republicans by the droves are asking for mitt romney. >> look at this poll. mitt romney matched up to president obama, 53% to 44%. if you remember during the actual election obama won the popular vote 51% to 47%. according to "the washington post" over the next three days, in mid-august romney is going to be campaigning for g.o.p. candidates in three states. >> buyers remothers. 315 million buyers feeling remorse. >> if we could vote again. 11 minutes after the top of the hour. thank you for joining us on this monday. coming up, downsizing our defense. even when la quinta.com sends sales rep steve hatfield the ready for you alert, the second his room is ready. you know what he brings? 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>> ebola is a virus and this actually has been around for quite a long time. it was first discovered in 1976 in the congo in africa and it was actually named after the ebola river and it's one of the viruses in a group called viral hemorragic fever. that is one of the symptoms you get, bleeding internally and from the nose, mouth and eyes but that is in a very advanced stage of the disease. >> dr. brantley at emory, how is he being treated? >> there is no vaccine for ebola but one of the problems for ebola is it results in the release of major amounts of inflammatory chemicals in the bloodstream. this causes sepsa, dehydration. the doctor is in an isolation unit but is getting large amounts of intravenous units, monitoring his oxygen level, blood rate. rehydration is a key issue. ebola can affect major organs in the body, can cause liver failure and kidney failure. people with advanced disease may need dialysis. plenty of fliewppedz and make sure -- plenty of fluids and make sure nobody else is infected. doctors caring for him will be wearing protective clothing, making sure he is in isolation. it is very contagious but in the right places. >> i want to know how bad this is specifically this outbreak as you look back in history. >> in the last 40 years since we have known about ebola this outbreak is pretty bad. the numbers are high. in africa they have had over 1,200 people get the disease, not just the people we know about, i'm sure there are more. but 700 to 800 people died from the disease. the situation in africa is very different from here. first of all we're not getting the disease in america. but the other problem, the main problem with ebola and why it is so fatal in africa is they do not have basic medical care to take care of people who have been infected. >> the people who aren't educated to know how it spreads. should americans be worried? when we hear about how quickly it is spreading there and now it is on u.s. soil, should we be worried? >> i don't think we should be worried. i do not think this is a major health issue for the general public. important points here you should not be traveling to areas in africa, liberia, sierra leone and guinea. i don't think americans in america are at risk. these people being brought over are in isolation. i think it is very unlikely it will be spread as a disease. >> doctors, thank you so much. 18 minutes after the hour. an afghan killer gets a seven year sentence for the murder of one of our marines. the mother of this fallen hero speaking out next. talk about threading a needle, how this guy pulled off this landing. you do a lot of things great. but parallel parking isn't one of them. you're either too far from the curb. or too close to other cars... it's just a matter of time until you rip some guy's bumper off. so, here are your choices: take the bus. or get liberty mutual insurance. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. call liberty mutual insurance. here's who's making news around the world, while you were sleeping a ferry boat capsized in bangladesh. so far about 100 people have been rescued. the rest unfortunately still missing. at least 398 people are dead and nearly 1,900 more injured after a 6.1 magnitude earthquake in china. the death toll there expected to rise as rescuers dig through the rubble. >> more pink slips in the war zone. the u.s. army axing 550 of its majors. some serving in afghanistan will be told they have to leave the service by next spring, part of a downsizing mandated by congress. the soldiers joined the army between 1999 and 2003. that means only some will be eligible to officially retire and receive benefits. >> in 2012, three u.s. marines were gunned down at their operating base during an insider attack in afghanistan. two years later the afghani shooter was tried as a juvenile and sentenced to only seven and a half years in prison. the marine corps claims all families were kept informed throughout the trial but one parent is saying this is not true. she is speaking out for the first time. linda rivera is the mother of slain marine corporal richard rivera joins us live in los angeles. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> this is your first time speaking out. why have you decided to come on tv to tell your son's story? >> i've been waiting two years for a good outcome and it happened that the outcome was not good. and i wasn't even notified. >> that's right. as we look at some images of your son who was killed two years ago this august, initially the shooter, the young man who murdered your son, they did a bone density test on him and figured out that he was between 19 and 20 years old. they also told another family who lost a son that he would be tried as an adult as well. when did they decide, you know what, we're going to take the kid's word for it, he's only 15 years old -- or whatever they said -- and try him as a juvenile. when did that happen? >> that's a good question because i wasn't notified of either. i know that he's been held in an adult penitentiary this whole time. if he was a juvenile from the beginning he shouldn't have been held in an adult prison. >> exactly. the marine corps did issue a statement on july 25. they said this, quote, since the time of the incident regular contact with the acted families has been maintained in order to keep them informed of related investigative and legal developments. our approach to supporting families of our fallen on our commitment to loyalty. linda, would you say that is accurate? has the marine corps kept you up to date on what was going on? >> not at all. i received a letter that they had closed their office and the trial was going to be held in a juvenile court. that was the first notification of any trial date and conviction. >> in fact not too long ago they notified you and said even though you had been asking for a time line of what happened and asking for a copy of your son's autopsy and that never came, what they sent you was they said we're packing up our office and here's the time line and the time line wasn't even accurate? >> right. there was a lot of inaccuracies in there. i've never been notified by ncis, never contacted by the marine corps with any investigative report. i requested my son's autopsy more than once without any response. >> i understand since then they have said maybe we had the wrong address. right now what you would like, linda, is you would like to make sure that the families are not kept in the dark as you were; right? >> correct. >> better lines of communication. we understand at least one of the families is trying to bring the young man who was convicted as a juvenile back to this country to stand trial as well; right? >> right. that would be the best outcome. >> that would be. linda rivera, we thank you very much. we're sorry for your loss and thank you for joining us today to tell your son's story. >> thank you for having me. >> 27 minutes after the top of the hour. the ship was going down with moments to react. the g.p.s. wasn't working but rescuers say he had two things that saved his life. find out what they are. happy birthday to jeff gordon. 43 years old today. 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>> there is not a crowd down below watching. not like it is the half time of a big game. he's just pulling the stunt. if he would have been off ten feet, he would have certainly been in an ambulance. >> it was not on stand by there or at least not that we could see. >> a bug on a windshield. >> thank you for joining us. john voigt, angelina jolie's father, put in the hollywood reporter, he pend pend -- pending a letter slamming penelope cruz because a group called on the e.u. to condemn israel. condemn israel. and he's gotten a lot of reaction. >> here's the letter. he wrote an open letter to the hollywood reporter. he said you have been able to become famous and have all your monetary gains because you are in a democratic country. america. do you think you would have been able to accomplish this in iran, syria, lebanon, et cetera? you had a great responsibility to use your celebrity for good. instead you have defamed the only democratic country of good will in the middle east -- israel. you should hang your heads in shame. >> these are not the only people in hollywood, like penelope cruz coming forward against israel. it is like they have been forgetting what has been happening for decades to these people, their history of having to run into bomb shelters worried about their own lively hoods themselves. >> i think forgetting is giving them too much credit. that suggests they knew anything about anything. i think jon voigt has been giving them too much thought. defaming israel is like intelligence and forethought. >> he says their actions are inciting a growing global antisemitism. you know what? he could be right. >> should hollywood be weighing in on situations like this if they appear to not be educated on it? let us know. >> no, they shouldn't but they do. it's 26 minutes before the top of the hour. you want to know what the crack smoking mayor of toronto is up to? the crack-smoking mayor of washington, d.c. -- >> the former crack-smoking mayor of washington, d.c. >> i only saw the first line and thought it would be about rob ford. >> this is quite a story coming in. we're talking about the former mayor of washington, marion barry, has been involved in a wrong way crash in the nation's capital. now the councilman was spotted driving the wrong way down pennsylvania before he collided with another car. a spokesperson said barry had a hypoglycemic attack. he was treated in a hospital and release. he served six months in prison in the 1990's after he was caught on camera spoking crack. a washington man is lucky to be alive after his boat burst into flames. this is a 25 foot boat. it split in half and then sank. the coast guard releasing this helicopter rescue video. it shows rescuers took nearly an hour to find him due to the heavy fog from the fire. the man was found hypothermic on a life raft. a signal for the man's hand held radio device likely saved his life. quick thinking boaters tying their kayaks together after their boats start to sink in hawaii. their 21 foot boat started to sink. while the group waited for safety an emergency beacon was activated and alerted the coast guard to their location. about two hours later a helicopter showed up and flew them to safety. take a look at this. it is a run away reptile spotted wandering around very slowly on the streets of a los angeles suburb. his name is clark. it took two officers to pick him up because he's 150 pounds and they took him into custody. literally. that's what they said. they posted this on-line about a reptile arrest. they put it on facebook. the family that owns him came forward and said he ran away while they were at a baseball game. really? those are your headlines. >> you know what that was? reptile dysfunction. >> r.d. >> they have commercials for it. >> by the way, i am in tucker's seat and tucker is in mine. on the weekend you're on that side. >> it will never happen again. >> we'll see about that. 24 minutes before the top of the hour. extreme weather slamming parts of southern california. heavy rain sweeping cars into flooded creeks. at least one person has died. >> heavy rain also straining hundreds of motorists in a city east of los angeles. flooding in san bernardino mudslides cutting off roads for thousands of people. >> it is actually a beautiful morning here in new york city. maria molina joins us with a preview of the whole united states of america. >> a beautiful start to the day across portions of the northeast. pleasant temperatures and dry conditions. i want to go back to the west. you guys mentioned that flooding over the weekend and we have drought conditions in parts of california and nevada. so the rain is welcome news. we're looking at 44% of the west under severe to exceptional drought. we need that rainfall coming in but of course we're getting too much too fast so flooding is a concern. watches remain in effect because more heavy rain is forecast for today and that possibility of flooding continues. another area we're watching for flooding is across coastal parts of the carolinas. watches are in effect out there. we have had heavy rain over the weekend and that will continue to be a concern. across the atlantic we continue to track tropical storm bertha, currently maximum sustained winds at 70 miles per hour. it is forecast to become a category one hurricane later today into tomorrow. it does not pose a threat to the eastern united states. temperature wise in the 80's in places like raleigh, north carolina, new york city and tomorrow highs will climb into the upper 80's and 90's for many along parts of the east coast. 90's in kansas city and dallas. colorado and new mexico, only in the 80's. look at phoenix, arizona, 104 degrees. there is humidity in the air across parts of the southwest. >> it is summer. it should be hot out there. maria, thank you. >> life imitating art. an actor known for his gangster role on "the wire" becomes a victim of a crime himself. >> from this video you would think it is a homeless man looking for work. >> i'm looking for work. are you guys hiring? 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>> dr. david samati is here to tell us about low testosterone or manapause. >> i thought this was a joke, but apparently as i get older, i hear from other people that apparently it's not. what are some of the symptoms? >> if you feel absolutely tired, you start gaining weight, you really have no sex drive, you want to sit in front of the tv and become a couch potato, don't want to socialize with other people and you start having some of these man boob, then you're on the right track to manopause. >> man boobs? >> man boobs. it's all part of gaining weight and your testosterone is going down and you're starting having almost like real menopause. menopause, in women, starts around 50, 55. women feel it. with men, it's a very gradual process. your peak of testosterone is around 35. you're 34, so you don't have to worry about it. as timeon, your testosterone -- >> he's look at me. >> it starts going lower and lower. so it's because it's a gradual process. we don't really feel it. you wake up at around 50 years old, which is right around now, and start having these kind of issues. some people deal with this with buying -- the other alttive is go to doctors and think it's a fountain of youth. be careful because there is a loft side effects. >> because the testosterone, if you have a problem, could speed it up? 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>> they are great people. they're tremendous people. but they have to suffer the consequences. they go and they try and help other people, but things like this happen. and as you know, a month ago, dc had a tremendous problem where things got out that weren't supposed to get out. i watched the head of the cdc talking about ebola, we can control it. they couldn't control their own labs a month ago. so what would they know? now, our country has enough problems. send the doctors to liberia. send the doctors to west africa to take care of our people. it's one thing. but don't let them in. we have another problem because a lot of people are fleeing west africa and they're coming here because they want to get away from ebola. how many of those people have ebola? and it's going to be a problem. and i cannot understand why we're allowing so many people. we should end flights coming in from west africa and liberia. we should certainly do that. if you look at the aids epidemic, it started very small and then all of a sudden it grew and grew and we have to this day, have a massive problem with that. this all started from a very, very small sample. >> that all makes sense. it's tucker carlson and i understand your point on immigration for sure and i think i agree with you. but these two people are americans. if you were in liberia and contracted a deadly disease, wouldn't you high tail it back to the u.s. asap? >> you're right, i'd try and get back, but i'm not sure if i were running the u.s. i would allow me to get back because frankly, our country is in such a -- you folks report on it better than anybody. the problems we have, this is not another problem that we have to have. it's got to be an isolated situation. we should not allow. if this happened -- this is a highly infectious disease, highly infectious. then all of a sudden you'll have groups, you know the groups because we talked about them all the time, they'll say this is discriminatory. you have to let the people out. they can't be isolation. you can't do this. you can't do that. look, ebola is in that section of the world. we can not have it in this country. it's a very -- it's interesting, with my twitter account, which turns out to be a monster, but with my twitter account, some people are strongly in favor, i mean so strongly in favor and some people are against. and on a humanitarian basis, i don't like having to say it. but our country is in trouble. we cannot afford to have another epidemic in this country. >> all right. by the way, we should point out if you want to follow donald trump on twitter, it's at real donald trump. by the way, there is an item in the "washington post" that talks about as we prepare for the elections in november, for the most part barak obama to the democrats, is box office poison. but as it turns out for the republicans, the guy who lost, mitt romney, is in demand and if you look at a poll that came out in the last week or two ago, if they were to have the election for president today, mitt romney would beat barak obama in a landslide. what's going on here? >> well, people like mitt and i think in a certain way have always liked him. nobody knows what happened in the last month of the election because it wasn't a pretty thing. it really doesn't matter what the polls are saying right now, unfortunately. we have a loss and mitt had a loss. it didn't work out. but he's a popular guy. he's made a lot of statements that turned out to be true. the statement of russia turning out to be the enemy, they belittled him. and people doing the commentary were just knocking the hell out of him and it turned out to be right. you look at what putin is doing to this country and it's incredible. >> he was right about health care. he was talking about mali before anybody knew where it was. >> he's a good man. he had a lot of good ideas. i think he would have made an excellent president and it didn't work out. and i can see why people would want endorsements and they'd want his help and that's what's happening. >> donald, i want to get to you weigh in on this. al sharpton making headline, telling the mayor of new york and nypd following this choke hold case that's still under investigation, but the deaths of that individual, who was in the choke hold, has been ruled a homicide. now al sharpton saying he knows best. what do you think? >> well, i know al sharpton very well. believe it or not he's a friend of mine and he came up to visit me recently. he said something about me that he wanted to apologize. he actually came up to my office. i understand al. al does his thing. and by the way, the choke hold was terrible. that cop was so aggressive, it was ridiculous. i don't know where he came from. but that was a ridiculous situation to do. if it's anything like we see, and you know, what we saw was the terrible situation. but people go to al and al, you know, he's become quite a leader and they -- they'll probably settle now because they took his gun away or because they arrested -- the city will give him millions of dollars just like they give everybody else that has a problem. it's gotten totally out of control. as far as al is concerned, al is doing his thing. >> what did he say about you that he apologized for? >> he called me a racist. and he came up to my office to apologize. he said he didn't mean it. >> good for him. >> so that's good. i respect him for that. >> but i've known al a long time and he's a true character and actually he's much different. he's not the bad guy that a lot of people think he is. >> none the less, he is telling the chief of police here in new york city and the mayor how to do their jobs. but that's just al sharpton. all right, donald trump at real donald trump, we thank you very much for joining us live. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. it is now time to turn to heather nauert who joins us with the news. >> good morning. i've got a story out of the midwest this morning and folks in northern ohio are really on alert. the water crisis in toely dee dough. -- toledo. tests revealed the water is contaminated with toxin. that water can make you very, very sick. it's so dangerous that you and your pets can't drink it and the kids, not supposed to date in it. boiling that water oil makes it worse. the mayor says more testing needs to be done. listen to this. >> i'm not going to make a decision and then turn around 24 hours later and say, we're back to where we were. that would be absolutely irresponsible. >> officials say if you've been exposed to the toxic water, see your doctor immediately. out west, massive flooding sparking mud slides in southern california, trapping 500 children and adults at a church camp in san bernardino. they're in contact with the forest home camp and everyone is safe but they're still trapped behind that mud flow. look at all of that there. this morning, crews are using bulldozers to try to rescue them, saying there is no other way out. your vacation photo album may never be the same. now friends include this, a selfy stand. a tri pod designed with smart phones in mind. you'll never again have to ask another tourist to take a picture of you. we were supposed to have a picture of that, but we don't. those are your headlines. sorry about that. we'll work on that next time. >> anybody can do it with a picture. >> there you go. thank you very much. all right. his words caused a stir on capitol hill. >> apparently, i'd say look at this. >> that's innocence innocence charging at him, waving her finger and stuff like that. congressman joins us live to tell us what happened next. and what she's yapping about. >> beyonce responding to the big fight between her sister and jay-z. how she decided to deliver the message ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ you want to save money on car insurance? 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>> i was talking about how the democrats are making immigration a political issue when in fact they had in 2009 and 2010, complete control of the house, and white house and they did virtually nothing to address the border issue. they did some token issues on immigration. it was a precursor to amnesty, but other than that, nothing was done. >> what you said was absolutely a fact. and apparently the former speaker took expectation because what did she do? >> she came running over crossing the floor, which is a breach of protocol. she wanted to say something. she could ask me if i would yield or have my words taken down, but there was nothing to take down. and she came up to me wagging her finger and saying that i was a liar and a liar and i simply said no, i do my research. i have my facts straight. perhaps you should try that. >> okay. that took some courage and the fact in the face of the fact that she was a former speaker and apparently she's got an exalted view of herself because you did have words again later and what did she call you then? >> well, she was wagging her finger at me and she just simply told me that i wasn't important in so many words. >> an insignificant person? >> an insignificant person, yes. she was wagging her finger and i am insignificant. she told me in a twice. and i just simply said to her, do you want to talk about this in the back? and she said no. she was visibly shaken. but you know something? i'm a former prosecutor. i was a state prosecutor and u.s. attorney. i've been threatened by drug dealers and organized crime and murderers and this was a walk in the park. i'm not going to put up with this. i don't talk to people like this. my father told me to be a gentleman. i was a gentleman during this whole incident. there are some people in congress that think they are royalty and i'm having one of the wealthiest people in congress say that i'm inconsequential and i'm not important. but that comment was made not only to me, but it was made to my constituents and the middle class, hard working people across the united states. so let's just -- it was what it was and i'm not afraid to speak up. i'm a street fighter and i'm not going to continue to have someone belittle and make statements that aren't true and i'm going to stand up and fight for my constituents. >> her office came out and said you apologized, which you did not do. they were just trying to spin it their way. tom marino, who has taken the high road on the whole issue, thank you very much. >> these are -- what happened there is a prime example of why we need term limits. >> amen. you're right. tom, thank you very much. you are not an insignificant person to us. thank you very much for getting up early on this monday morning. up next, a monday holding a camera struck by lightning. yep. and the latest youtube craze. this video is actually hypnotizing little kids. we're going to tell you about that. >> you hear this. this adorable shopping cart. hel! three grams daily of beta-glucan... a soluable fiber from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. thank you! wheyou know what he brings?les rep steve hatfield the ready for you alert, the second his room is ready. any questions? 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♪ ♪ >> this ridiculous and faintly annoying video made you did you tube history. it was the first to hit a billion views and still nobody knows why. its success of gangam style surprised you, and it did. we've got one that's even more bizarre. a new youtube craze hit 29.5 billion mark. many say because it's actually hypnotizing kids and keep clicking. watch. >> with this adorable shopkin cart. it comes with two shopkins. you hear this. this adorable shopkin cart. shopkins in the front. hearts on the wheels. so cute. >> it's called disney collector br. that's an anonymous woman, all you see are her hands and she plays with toys and provides a voiceover. kids are obsessed. why, is the question? tom christian joins us this morning. a psychotherapist and parenting expert and he may have an explanation. i was just hearing in my ear from one of our producers saying that her three-year-old, not that interested in movies or tv, somehow found this on the internet and now is like one of those rats in a cocaine bar, can't stop. what is it about this video that's so compelling? >> i don't think most three-year-olds are the ones finding it. i think for the most part, 90% of little kids watching it are being introduced by their parents. the think that's allure being it is it's very stimulating. kids have very creative imaginations, especially young kids. we have different levels of brain wave activity that take place every day. we go into hypnotic trcnce -- trances. kids, when you have a soft voice tone, this get mesmerized. >> but this is different for this reason, seems to me. i look at this and find it totally uninteresting. i'm sure you do, too. yet the people who make this are make millions a month. that's how many views they're getting on this thing because kids, little kids, something about this is irresistible to them. brain.ems targeted at a certain >> it is. it probably is targeted. this could be some subliminal stuff going on. we can't identify that because that can't be sought out consciously. but for kids, the problem i have, the reason why i'm here is i'm on a mission. i've been giving lectures on the effects of technology and media on kids and the progression into middle school and high school. it's very problematic around the time the -- the amount of time the kids are spending absorbed in a digital world. we're seeing anxiety and stuff because they're not actually living in the real world more hours per day. >> i don't want to be reactionary. i want to be open minded just 'cause i didn't grow up, doesn't mean it's bad. yet this seems scary. allowing kids just access to the internet. >> it is. if i can give advice to parents, it's okay if you let your kid watch this video once. but if you're using it as a parent to kind of pacify your kid over and over, i got to ask the question of whether or not you're going about parenting the right way or not. i can understand occasionally if you got to make a phone call, but we need to be careful as parents that we don't want to continue to introduce our kids to these things that are going to hypnotize and mesmerize them and keep them out of our real world life. >> we study everything in this country, the effects of playground equipment, secondhand smoke. we're trying to study the effects of this or that on children. are there any real studies on what this stuff does to the developing brain? >> there might be some studies out there. but there is nothing that's introduced to the general public. so essentially there is something called neuro plastic ity. media and television and every other form of media and computers, that stuff is extremely stimulating to the brain. what happens is the brain will produce knew neural pathways. the brain is malleable. they're having problems with the interview process because they are living in a digital subconscious trancelike state. it's difficult to deal with real problems when most of your day is living in the real world. >> scary. thanks for coming on this morning. >> pleasure. appreciate it. >> sounds like the tip of the iceberg. >> it is. i could talk for hours about this. next up, a fox news alert, sean hannity is on the ground in israel. a brand-new cease fire gets underway. what's he seeing? he's going to join us live with an update from there. and did you know there are certain foods that can make you look older? way older. i just had some for breakfast this morning. we're going to tell you what not to eat, what's going to keep you looking young. bacon or chicken? 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(vo) there's good more... honey, look at all these smart rewards points verizon just gave me. ooh, you got a buddy. i'm like a statue. i just signed up and, boom, all these points. ...and there's not-so-good more. you're a big guy... ...oh no. get the good more with verizon smart rewards and rack up points to use towards the things you really want. get the lg g3 for $199.99. good morning. a fox news alert. a temporary seven-hour cease fire in israel is supposed to be getting underway. but hamas says it plans to keep fighting. >> our own sean hannity is live outside tel aviv with the very latest. good morning to you, sean. we understand that the iron dome behind you went off just a little while ago in the last ten minute, which means hamas is still shooting at the israelis. >> let me tell what you really happened. since we've been here now, we're on the border about three miles from the gaza border and there has been three red alerts, three missiles have been fired since we've been here. we just heard an explosion two minutes ago as the iron dome, not this one behind me, but it literally took one of those rockets out of the sky. when we were down at the border, we saw israeli troops and tanks coming back as they just finished an operation inside of gaza. it would appear that even though they have a report that there is a cease fire, i can tell you firsthand that is not the case here. and if you look behind me, too, that is one of nine operational iron domes that's literally protecting every city and every town within israel as a country. one of the reasons we're here, we were down very close to the gaza border and there is a playground and surrounding that playground you have multiple bomb shelters where kids, if they hear the alarm, they're told and taught to get right into the bomb shelter. on one hand life goes on as usual. on the other hand, it's very surreal living in an environment where now some 3,000 rockets have been fired into israeli towns and cities and yet the iron dome has done a great job protecting the people of israel. we're going to be inside the tunnels that have been dug by hamas so they can use to kidnap some of the israelis. we'll be doing that later today, as soon as we finish over here. we're really going to get up close and personal with the iron dome and how it has been so successful in terms of defending against the rockets. but more importantly, steve, it's the issue of life under the threat of rockets being fired at any minute of any day. some 3,000 fired. >> so it sounds like we've had this debate in this country for 30 years about missile defense, does it work? it sounds like from what you just said, the debate is over. it works. >> it works. some 90% approval. tucker, it is amazing, as i've been talking to the idf forces, some of which i'll interview tonight on the show, one just told me they never get sick of seeing the success of this. in other words, that as many times as they've seen that iron dome take a missile out of the sky, it is inspiring to them because it is the one thing -- imagine if those 3,000 rockets actually landed in israeli cities and towns, how many people would have died. down at the border, it's particularly troublesome for most of the people that live there. the infrastructure of tunnels, this now goes to the heart of why prime minister netanyahu feels compelled to take out this infrastructure. 'cause they got 50, 100 tunnels that have been dug very sophisticated, reinforced with concrete. one tunnel that they found yesterday literally had two motorcycles in them. they'll use motorcycles, they'll drive up and the hopes are they'll come in in the dark of night, capture some israelis and then use that in the case of those three students that were killed. we're going to be up front and close with a lot of the idf people. later this week we'll interview prime minister netanyahu, but right behind me, that missile, that iron dome right there is one of nine operational domes that is literally preventing the people of israel from dying. >> sean, we've heard a benchmark of success for israel would be to destroy all of the tunnels and then they would potentially hold back a bit. but how can they ever be sure? how can they be certain they're all destroyed? >> you know, obviously -- this is a much more difficult mission. being on the ground and seeing it, you get a much different perspective than what you see on tv. you're talking about a very wide area. you're talking about a deep, sophisticated level of operation against israel and as they go into gaza, every idf force is a target themselves. so they've got the immediate problem of dealing with oncoming fire, small arms fire and others, and then they have the operational issues of knocking out those tunnels and there is also great concern and care given to civilian life. i mean, the idea if you're fighting a war, you're going to give people texts and phone calls and you're going to tell them to get out of the area so that you don't have civilian casualties or collateral damage, as we call it, is a pretty interesting -- it's a needle that you try in a thread there. it's very difficult. that makes their job that much harder. if you went in and car at the time bombed it, it would probably be done a lot quicker. that's not the tact they've taken. they've put a lot of priority on human life. >> sure. before you go, a question for you, i know you've only been in israel a short period of time. but if people come up to you knowing you're an american and saying, hey, whose side exactly is this administration of yours on? get that political here. i'll have a lot to say. it's very interesting, steve. when i went to iraq, i got the same feeling. when you're flying in to what you know is a war zone and you're landing in an area and i get in the car and the first thing that i hear is that there is a red alert, a rocket has been fired in the general area where we're driving, you get a far different perspective than just watching it on tv at home because this is everyday life for the people living here. when go to a playground and you see bomb shelters on the playground, that gives you a different perspective. as we were at the gaza border and you see these troops and these tanks coming back, it gives awe different perspective. so the only thing i would say is to the administration, i have a hard time understanding why there is any moral ambiguity here. i think is a moment for moral clarity and i think if 3,000 rockets were fired into american cities, i know what i'd want my president to do. i know what i'd want our military to do. i'd want them to defeat the enemy, take out the infrastructure and make sure that they're not capable of doing it again in the future. >> absolutely. all right. sean hannity outside tel aviv near the iron dome, which is holding so far. thank you, we'll be watching throughout the day and tonight on "hannity requesting" for the very latest. >> thank you. and for the latest on what else is making headlines, we turn to heather nauert, good morning. >> good morning. we're following news here at home. an update for you on that missing mother in oregon. brand-new surveillance video from a ferry boat taken last week and it may show jennifer huston and her car headed to the san juan island often the coast of washington state. the ferry company is right now analyzing that video. jennifer and her family had apparently planned a trip to the island this summer. that family now wondering if she decided to go ahead alone. coming up at 8:15, we'll talk with jennifer's husband and also her father to get the latest on that search. singer beyonce addressing that fight, that one in the elevator. she's addressing it in a new remix, in a new song with nicky minage and she sings, of course, sometimes blank goes down when there is a billion dollars on the elevator. i guess she thinks they're all worth a billion dollars. in the meantime, jay-z and beyonce's marriage could be on the rocks. the "new york post" report they can may cancel their tour and already living in separate hotels. a source telling the post that jay-z is trying to control beyonce's post-divorce interviews. interesting. a seattle man wanted to capture lightning during the daytime on his cell phone, so here is what happens next. take a look. >> i don't know what's going to happen. i'll give it a minute here. >> oh! >> all right. not exactly bright. that is rob and he was walking across the field when he spotted lightning. less than a minute later, he felt the jolt and then a boom traveled through his entire body. firefighters responding to that emergency call. but said other than being a little shaken up, the guy is just fine. those are your headlines. that's the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do. >> of course. reminds me of that scene in "caddyshack." he's holding his golf club up and there is lightning. boom! >> thank you. >> thank you. what would your kids do if they came face-to-face with a gun? 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(angry cat purr) ah! part of a good breakfast... for almost everyone! time for quick head lines. the f.b.i. is hiring a firm to raise positive and negative news stories about the agency. officials not saying why they need the information or what they plan to do with it. but some experts are concerned the agency could use the list to limit access to certain outlets. great. upstate new york hotel is not combating bad reviews by improving its service. no. it's fining guests for posting bad reviews. the union street guest house is now charging couples who book weddings at the venues $500 for every bad review posted on line by their guests. unsurprisingly, the hotel's customer service is rated poorly. shocking. anna? all right. here we go. good morning. are you looking for a way to stay young forever young? we bet you haven't heard this idea. food. nutritionist says it is possible. she's the author of "skinny chicks eat real food." sounds good to me. she joins us now. good morning. >> good morning. >> this is upsetting. everybody is worrying about what to eat for breakfast. bacon is something that can make us look old? >> high in sodium. this causes inflammation in the body and we see that in our skin. so not such a great idea. >> also other processed meats. >> deli meat and right now we're in barbecue season. sausage not a good choice anyway. but when you char your meat, overcook them, causes a lot of issues, too. what you want to do is go with something that's not going to cause inflammation. like foods with omega 3. chicken breast is good. there is nothing wrong with your own chicken breast. >> for women in particular, you say spicy foods can cause us to have blotchy skin and what else? >> yes. especially women going through menopause. it causes the skin cells to be way more sensitive. so when we're eating spicy foods in that age range, we'll see redness and blotchiness. people who have rosacea, spicy foods will aggravate that. in general, they're not a bad thing. but just for this age group, stay away if you have rosacea. >> a lot of people will choose them as weight loss options. >> you want to go with what we've got, igplant, bell pepper. it's going to give you the same tang, but not as spicy. >> what about acidic drinks? >> acidic drinks, like lemonade, which everybody likes a nice cool lemonade once in a while. high in acid. it will break down tooth enamel. same thing with orange juice, energy drinks, coffee. if you do tea, which people might go it darkens your teeth. not so much if you add milk. that stops the darkening. tea is very good. >> a little bit of kick in the morning, too. >> yes. the great thing about tea also is it reduces bacteria in the mouth. so reduces cavities and bad breath. >> okay. a lot of us, it's 5:00 o'clock somewhere, why make cocktail hour only an hour. that can be unhealthy for the liver. >> we're talking about beauty. your liver gets toxify with too much alcohol, which shows up as acne, can cause wrinkle, premature age. a great option is dandelion tea which detoxifies the liver, reduces fluid and reduces that puffy face in the morning, after a night of drunking where -- drinking. drink dandelion tea. great option. >> thank you for your time today >> thank you. >> steve, back to you. >> next up, what would you do if your kids came face-to-face with a gun and did this? >> oh, oh. >> what? >> what our hidden cameras found out and what every parent needs to know coming up next. first on this date in 1990, mariah carey had the number one song in america with "vision of love." ♪ ♪ captain obvious: i probably wouldn't stay here tonight. man: thanks, captain obvious. captain obvious: i'd get a deal for tonight with deals for tonight from hotels.com. and you might want to get that pipe fixed. ♪searching with devotion ♪for a snack that isn't lame ♪but this... ♪takes my breath away young and armed in america. all this week we're taking an in-depth look at kids and their relationships with guns and what do they know about guns and how dangerous they are? are their parents doing enough to educate them? perhaps most shocking, what would they do, your kids, if they found a firearm? we're going inside the minds of children all across the united states. today with heather nauert. >> the reality of what children may do with guns no matter how much parents talk to them about it ahead of time is going to surprise a lot of folks. take a look at some of what we found. some of it is tragic and some of it heroic for a look at what's in store all this week. every few hours in this country, a child is killed by a firearm. >> reported a child bleeding, a three-year-old, they're stating he's not conscious, not breathing. >> her baby has been hit in the head or shot. >> an accidental shooting, 85% of the time the injury is caused by another child. at least four-year-old -- his four-year-old brother picked up the gun and fired, striking her. >> police say his nine-year-old daughter had the gun when it accidentally fired, killing a neighbor. >> one in three homes in america has a gun. almost 2 million children live in a home with an unlocked and loaded firearm. sometimes natural curiousity can take over. >> anybody afraid of guns? >> no. >> what can parents do? is it better to arm your kids early? >> i wanted her at the very least to know to be safe around firearms, to understand they're not toys, that they have to be respected. >> one, two, three, four, five. >> or to keep them away at all costs? >> one of the most dangerous things you can possess in your house, especially when children are around. >> in fact, one state in the country has a law requiring gun owners to lock up their firearms at all times. an unlocked gun can sometimes spell disaster. >> three-year-old was in an upstairs bedroom when he found his stepfather's 40 caliber glock and accidentally shot himself. >> just when you think a hands off policy is the way to go, consider this. >> this man rang the doorbell and then i called my mother and she said to get her gun and go to her closet. i realized that he was in the house and he was going to find me. he started turning the door knob and i shot through the door and i shot him. >> i felt it was important. i knew she was going to be home alone. >> if there was no gun there and i didn't have a plan to ever shoot somebody, i really don't know what i'd do. >> the police got him right outside of my home. i'm very, very proud of her. she was very heroic and she is a hero. she shaved her life and -- saved her life and down the line, someone else. >> this week, we'll look at children and their relationship with guns. what should parents know and what are the experts saying? plus we'll show you what happens when children come face-to-face with a firearm in our hidden camera expose. >> put it away. don't touch it. >> already. i checked this out. >> it's all this week on "fox & friends." it's frightening to see, even when you tell kids not to touch it, so often they are very tempted to do it. all this week we're going to talk about how to teach your children about guns responsibly, how it lock them up, what parents should do. we have a lot of viewers here fr constitutional rights and all of that. so we want to make sure we're addressing this from a fair and balanced perspective. >> good job. and we'll be watching tomorrow. we're going to step aside. bret baier joins us live from washington, d.c. as we roll on live on this monday morning. i think the numbers speak for themselves. i'm sold! a "selling machine!" ready for you alert, only at lq.com. fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies, and never any by-products or fillers. wow! being a cat just got more enjoyabowl. fancy feast broths. wow served daily. good morning. today is monday, the 4th of august, 2014. i'm anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert, another american infected with ebola will soon be back in the united states as we learn more about the doctor being treated here right now. plus, a scare in an airport when a passenger drops dead after getting off a plane. great. with congress gone, the white house on the hunt to take on immigration all alone. president obama has not always felt like this was the way to go because it was not legal. why the change of heart? we're going to ask bret baier in about 30 seconds. >> then what do you want to know about rascal flats. ♪ ♪ >> e-mail us or send us a note by twitter because it turns out they're stopping by here in 20 minutes. mornings are profoundly improved by friends. ♪ ♪ >> we have guiterascal flatts in the house today, in about 20 minutes. we'll talk to them about their new album, for their summer tour. they are just huge champions for our troops, going to visit them multiple times. also i was telling a friend of mine in nashville that i was going to get to talk to them today and she said i'm actually a nurse in what is now called the rascal flatts surgery center because they donated so much money. they're humble about it. >> that's really cool. >> let's turn to harasscal, bret baier, who joins us every monday. >> good morning. >> good morning. we're going to play a sound bite from one of the sunday chat shows, dan pheiffer, the president's communication guy, saying essentially because congress could not do anything, and apparently he forgot that the republicans in the house did pass something on friday, but because they can't do anything regarding immigration, the president will probably have to amnestize 5000000 people. >> congress will need to act, but because our congress has not done anything, we need to deal with this specific crisis, the president has no choice but to act. >> it will be in september? >> the end of the summer. >> is that the conventional wisdom that that's what the administration is going to do, bret? >> it's starting to gel here in washington that there is going to be some kind of executive action that goes beyond what he has done already. an executive order from the president and that is going to be really this test. as you have this environment where house republicans have passed a resolution to sue the president for overreaching on executive authority, now you're probably going to have this stirring of the pot with a new executive action that is far more broad that deals with immigration overall. you're right, the house republicans passed this bill on friday after getting their ducks in a row and it falling apart on thursday. but what was in that bill was a repeal of what's called the deferred action for childhood arrivals. that was another executive order. that would essentially mean that his previous executive order that enabled kids of immigrants to stay here would be wiped out. and that would never make it past the senate democrats and therefore, it was doomed to fail. >> so republicans are saying that daca is one of the inducements -- >> the dreamers. >> exactly. that's one of the reasons all these central americans are on our borders. not so, says the "new york times." i'll read you an excerpt from the paper. it calls tea partiers delusional. quote, tea partiers believe delusionally that daca has a relation to the surge. the house passed a bill that dragged immigration reform so far to the right that it would never become law. do you think that's the consensus on the left, that there is really no connection between the president's order and this recent border crisis? >> it's what they're saying publicly. but listen, we heard from the president of honduras who specifically said there is confusion in central america about u.s. immigration policy. does daca fit into that as well? perhaps. i mean, clearly there is some vague perceptions about what u.s. immigration law is and whether you believe that daca was the magnet or that something spurred on this surge of new illegal immigrant children. and republicans believe that daca is part of that and clearly the "new york times" and many democrats don't. >> all right. and on friday after the senate, democratic-led senate had gone on vacation, the house stayed and passed the last-minute $694 million supplemental bill for the borrowedder and i want to show you some video of nancy pelosi in case some of our viewers missed it, running across the floor after tom marino, who was basically saying you're accusing republicans of making this a political issue. but remember when you had control of the white house and of congress and you didn't do anything? she's wagging her finger, allegedly called him an insignificant person, and a liar. >> yeah. it was quite the drama on the house floor and he is accurate that they did have control of the white house, the senate, and the house and had a lot of things potentially that could be pushed forward. immigration being one of them. obviously the former house speaker, now minority leader, had a problem with that phrasing and confronted him directly. it was definitely a moment on the house floor. >> she looked absolutely unhinged. afterward her people put out a statement that said he apologized to her, which was not true. they simply agreed to disagree. none the less, he told us exclusively on "fox & friends" just about an hour ago that he will not apologize. >> there are some people in congress that think they are royalty and i'm having one of the wealthiest people in congress saying that i'm inconsequential and i'm not important. that comment was made not only to me, but to my constituents and the middle class and hard working people across the united states. i'm not afraid to speak up. i'm a street fighter and i'm not going to continue to have someone belittle and make statements that aren't true and i'm going to stand up and fight for my constituents. >> he says that's what he was doing. but for her to call another member of congress insignificant and a liar a couple of times right down there in front of everybody, that's crazy. >> well, this is probably politically the best thing that could have happened to congressman marino because running against nancy pelosi, running against harry reid is an attractive thing for a republican looking for reelection. listen, all of this is setting the table for november and you are going to have this issue take front and center in a lot of these races. some of it is going to be problematic for republicans, like cory gardner in colorado had to vote against this border bill because daca is very popular in colorado. so you're going to have this play a lot of different ways. the bottom line is if the president issues an executive order that has some sweeping prospect, it is going to be this political vortex right before midterm election. and how it plays across the country i think is going to be varied. >> absolutely, because if he amnetizes 5000000 people, that's going to stir people up, particularly on the right. >> one way or another. >> bret baier, watch his show at 6:00 p.m. eastern time each and every weekday right here on the fox news channel. thank you. >> thank you. on other stories making head lines, we'll turn to heather nauert. >> good morning. a story out of midwest this morning. i grew up in the midwest, algae there can be a real problem in the lakes in the summer time in particular. this is causing a huge water crisis in toledo, ohio. overnight new tests revealing the drinking water there is still contaminated with analogy toxin. it is coming from lake erie and it feeds off of sewage from treatment plants and also runoff from farms and fertilizer from the farms as well. that water can make you extremely sick. it's so dangerous, you can't drink it, you can't bathe in it. boiling it only makes it worse. toledo's mayor says a lot more testing needs to be done. listen to this. >> i'm not going to make a decision and then turn around 24 hours later and say we're back to where we were. that would be absolutely irresponsible. >> officials are saying if you've been exposed to that toxic water, you need to see your doctor immediately. also another fox news alert this morning. americans frightened about a possible ebola outbreak right here in the united states as a second patient is set to arrive in atlanta. nurse rybold, an american missionary from american's purse is expected to arrive at emory university hospital tomorrow sometime. the first patient, dr. kent brantley, is already at that hospital in a special isolation unit right now. cdc officials say he's improving on saturday a passenger traveling from sierra leone collapsed and died at a london airport. but u.k. officials insist that her death is not related to ebola. but shows how nervous people are about that outbreak. the guy who shot this video of a fatal nypd choke hold is arrested on gun charges and he tells his wife to call al sharpton to help him out? ramsey orta is seen here at eric garner's funeral with al sharpton and busted by cops after he allegedly tried to hand off a stolen guenon a 17-year-old girl as he left a staten island hotel. he has a long criminal history. records show that 24 arrests in the past five years alone. his wife did not confirm that he did call reverend al sharpton. no idea what's going to happen with that yet. but at a press conference yesterday, sharpton said he hasn't spoken with orta yet. 292-year-old is being held in a psych unit in new york hospital. sharpton, by the way, has threatened the new york city mayor and the nypd saying, quote, he will be their worst nightmare if the city's policing policy doesn't bend to fit his needs. if you ever complained about your bank, you're not alone. bank of america is the most complained about bank in the united states, according to the consumer protection bureau. one of the largest in the country had nearly 40,000 complaints since 2011. more than half of the people complained about their mortgage services department. those are your headlines. lot of folks can probably relate to that story. >> sure. >> thank you very much. well, up next, a possible break in the case of this mother from oregon. she disappeared. her husband and father join us next with the very latest on the search for her. and a big brother becomes the big hero. >> i swam under water and i yanked her up. >> he's giving us a play by play. how he managed to save his little sister from some serious trouble. ♪ ♪ honey, look i got one to land. uh-huh. 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"fox & friends." >> yeah. >> we had a buddy that was keyboard player, older fellow. he walked in and he said, i got your name, boys, i'm telling you. back in the '60s i had a garage band called rascal flatts. >> and look at you now. >> hadn't been used. we took it. we stole it. >> another viewer, this comes from j.t. in florida. she says you and loretta lynn are any heros. the father-daughter dance at my daughter's dance was "my wish" and there was not a dry eye in the house. how do you decide the subject of the lyrics of the songs you choose? >> it's a process. we listen to thousands of songs for each record and we cut songs that move us first because we feel like if they don't touch us and they don't mean something to us, they're surely not going to mean anything to anybody else 'cause we'll do a horrible job trying to sell them on something we don't believe in. so we just cut the kinds of songs that move us and touch us and songs we feel like will touch other people. we've always said that we don't just do music for music's sake, but we also believe that music can touch people and heal people and help them wherever they are at their point in life with a struggle or moving on from a bitter divorce or whatever. so we've always tried to use music as a healing balm. >> it's not just the lyrics, too. it's just the crisp, clean sound that you have. you've had a lot of sponsors over the last 15 years or so. this year you have a new one? tell me about that. >> we do. with nexium 24 hour, we couldn't be happier. we don't always eat at the right times in life. at midnight, it used to be an issue, but 'cause we all struggle with frequent heartburn. so it was just a perfect fit with us, with nexium 24 hour. we're really looking forward to it. >> now we can live without hesitation and eat whenever we need to. >> our schedule is crazy. we can't pick and choose when we eat. it kind of picks and chooses us. >> life on the road, a lot of turkey jerky and soda, unfortunately. >> 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thought it was neat that he started relaxing like that. >> the two said they considered taking the deer home, but noticed the angry mother waiting close by. they eventually let him go. >> we also asked them if they now have all kinds of ladies beating down their door. >> you think a puppy is good. >> i'm engaged, so leave them alone. >> when in doubt, rub the belly. >> yeah. now to a fox news alert. fear and panic over the ebola outbreak here in the united states as a second patient is set to in atlanta. >> but should we be worried? ainsley earhart is following the story and joins us live here in the studio. >> reporter: the outbreak of the ebola virus causing fear it is could spread beyond africa into the united states. some americans are fearing for public safety after dr. kent brantley, one of the two american missionaries battling the disease arrived in a protective suit in atlanta to undergo treatment in a special isolation unit at emory hospital. >> he appears to be improving. that's encouraging. in fact, it's probably the case that people who are well nourished and healthy if they get a deadly disease do better than those who may be in more tenuous health as many of the patients who are tragically dying from ebola in africa have. >> the rising death toll in africa is causing some americans to worry that it could happen here. attending physician at winthrop university says the risk to the public is near zero at this point because of the extreme protective measures being taken. >> i don't think americans in america are at risk. these people that are being brought over are in dedicated units where they're in isolation. i think it's very unlikely that there is going to be spread of the disease. >> there is another person battling the illness. she is also an american missionary from samaritan's purse and is expected to arrive at emory under the same precautions tomorrow. and then on saturday, over the weekend a passenger traveling from sierra leone collapsed and died at england. officials are saying the death is not abuse of the ebola virus. back to you. >> thanks. now to heather nauert who has got some breaking news out of israel. >> we're following a story out of there this morning. it's another fox news alert. there is amateur video that just came in from jerusalem. it shows the moment that a suspected terrorist is taken out by local police there. here is what happened. the guy hijacked a construction excavator and knocked over a bus. one person was killed and five others were injured when the guy did this. police then firing multiple rounds at the suspect, killing him. these are the type of attacks that israel is so concerned about. they've got iron dome, helping to protect from the rockets. this is another issue all together. sean hannity just joined us in the last hour to talk about iron dome. >> right behind me, that missile, that iron dome right there is one of nine operational domes that is literally preventing the people of israel from dying. >> sean hannity there just a short while ago. a few hours from now, andrew tahmoreesi is back in court from mexico. his hearing is scheduled for today. back home in central florida, his friends and family are praying for his safe return. it has now been four months since he was accidental -- was arrested for accidentally crossing the border with three guns in his car. now his lawyers say there is a chance that that case could be dismissed. >> when i spoke to him over the phone, his lawyer is going to present additional evidence. the paperwork that was submitted was submitted not on the proper date of his incarceration. when he dealt with them. so they're going to aim for a mistrial. >> his legal fees have been mounting. his family says it could cost as much as $100,000 to free him. a washington state man is lucky to be alive after his boat burst into flames. look at this right there. it's hard to tell that was even a boat. it was 25 feet long and split in half and then it sank. his gps mal funks and the flares didn't work. but two things saved his life. a hand held radio and also his life raft. it hook the coast guard nearly an hour to find him due to all the heavy fog and the smoke there. the man on the raft suffering from hypothermia, but he was air lifted to a local hospital and he was able to walk away from that. how lucky he is. another lucky story to bring you. a quick-thinking eight-year-old pulling his three-year-old sister to safe after she fell into a swimming pool. his mom and dad were getting married at a hotel. but the happy wedding day nearly turned tragic, when he noticed his sister was at the bottom of the pool. >> i dive in straight into the middle. i swam in and yank her up. and then my papa and this guy austin reed, he started giving her cpr and pushing on her chest. >> thank goodness for that little boy. morgan was taken to the hospital and this morning she is doing just fine. we're happy to tell you. those are your headlines. we're headed outside to maria. what you got? >> good morning. hello, everybody. we're looking at a pretty beautiful day here in the northeast. get out and enjoy it. we already have that sunshine coming out and temperatures that are very pleasant. look at your high temperatures for today. in new york city, at 83 degrees and farther west, in cleveland, you're expecting a high there of 83 as well. meanwhile, parts of the plains, still on the hot side, feeling like summer. temperatures well into the 90s. across the east, the warming trend into tomorrow. coastal parts of the carolinas are looking at flood watches in effect. due to heavy rain that's forecast there. and farther west, we've had issues with mud slides across parts of california and also flooding over the weekend. those watches still in effect. the one bit of good news is that we do have drought conditions. so we welcome that rain. now let's head over to steve. >> all right. thank you. our cars may not be quite as space age as the jetson, but you know what? we're getting closer. gm is outfitting its newest cars with wi-fi, 4 g lte. that means you can e-mail from the passenger seat. your kids can download games from the back seat. and your wife could be skyping with somebody as you're driving along the road trip. here to show us how it works is the director of global marketing and innovation at onstar, john mcfar land. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> what happens to make it as simple as possible, thanks to this gizmo in the back of the car, it sucks in a cell phone signal? >> it's coming into the car and turns it into a wi-fi hot spot in the vehicle. what it can do, just like you would see at a home, if you pull up the settings here, you have your own hot spot. so you can connect just like you're at your house. >> we're connected right there? >> yeah. connected. signal strength very strong. what you can do then is things such as, to your point with families, seven people in the car can pull up their own video and content and stream it. you can even do things like e-mail. you can skype actually. we'll try to pull that up right now. >> just like that. >> we'll call into the studio here. >> okay. john, why is this going to change everything? >> one of the great things about this is that it's going to be available standard in over 30 vehicles across chevrolet, buick, gmc and cadillac this year. that will will be available to everyone. seven people can connect in the car. >> take a look at the front of this car because this is a really cool new car, right? >> a beautiful car. this is the 2015 cadillac atf coupe, launching this year. >> what was the cost for the special service where you can turn your car into a wi-fi device? >> the hot spot start at $5 a month. >> five bucks a month? >> yeah. >> so for five bucks a month, ladies and gentlemen, you can actually skype with people and you can send back a signal, i'm calling you from the car right now. that's so cool. all right. that's john right there. john, thank you very much for appearing on "fox & friends." >> you're welcome. >> that is so cool. anna and tucker, in to you. i'm keeping this thing. >> you can't get away from us. >> so impressive. but i hope you do it from the passenger seat. it might be tell tempting. >> he looks great even on skype. coming up, violent chaos breaking out all around the world. so where is the american influence? is it waning? are we failing our friends and allies? former senator joe lieberman weighs in. >> and panhandling in reverse? >> what's that for? >> my celebrating. it's my birthday. >> that's pretty good. >> this guy looks like he's asking for money. but really he's giving it away. why is he doing this? we'll ask him ahead. maybe you'll get some, too no matter where you want to be or what you want to do, chances are we're already there. 12 brands. more hotels than anyone else in the world. like super 8, where every destination is super. save up to 15 percent and earn bonus points 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bone dog celebrates his fifth birthday with a few spins around the parking lot. here he is riding his 'cause item made harley in san diego. he's certified therapy dog. put in countless hours volunteering in the community. tensions rising around the world, our next guest says america may be sending the wrong message overseas. >> in a recent "wall street journal" op ed, former senator joe lieberman wrote this, too often we have sent a message of uncertainty to our allies and enemies, making the former or anxious and the latter more ambitious. >> so what does the senator say we need to do? joining us right now is former u.s. senator joe lieberman. good morning to you. >> good morning. great to be with you. >> why did you write this op ed? >> well, i just watching things happen. i continue to be interested in foreign policy. i'm working on a project at american intersurprise institute with jon kile, my former republican colleague from arizona. and the world is, a mess. and when the world is a mess, there is a tendency for people it want to pull back, including our leaders. president obama came in on a promise that he not only would get us out of iraq and afghanistan, i think he thought he would keep us back from the world's trouble spots. but you can't do that when you're a great power like us and the world is as small as it is. so as i documented in that article -- let me start with a premise. i went to an old connecticut politician who mentored me when i started out and he said never forget who your friends and supporters are. and stick with them. he always tried to get people who voted against nut last election to vote -- against you in the last election, but don't do it by being disloyal to your friends and current supporters. i think the u.s. is in danger of that doing that. in the middle east and particularly asia where we laid back and our ally, fighters for freedom, people are pro-american, now believe they can't rely on us. that's not only bad for them, that's bad for us. >> is it my imagination or has our policy toward israel changed a lot? is the obama administration taking a very different posture from the bush administration, from the clinton administration? it seems different. >> it is. you had two administration, clinton and bush 43, which were very not only pro-israel, but just working very closely together and some ways in exactly the terms that i talked about. sometimes friends disagree, but you try not to have a big argument in public. you always want your friends to believe that you're with them. in this case, it's more mixed with the obama administration. as prime minister netanyahu said over the weekend, in many ways the u.s. has been i think the word he used was terrific, during this crisis with hamas. but in other ways, i think the israelis feel and a lot of pro-israel americans feel that the administration has not seemed to be totally with israel. defending israel's right to exist and yet beginning to negotiate with qatar and turkey, who are open supporters of hamas, which naturally infuriates the israelis. also incidentally, really upsets our allies in the arab world like saudi arabia, egypt, et cetera, who don't want hamas to come out of this conflict stronger than they are now. >> senator, we don't have a lot of time left, but we want to get your take on the crisis at the border. governor perry saying it's not just an issue of these kids, so-called kids coming from the central american countries, but some of them have ties even to terrorist groups, or gangs. what message does this send that our borders are open to some of our adversaries? >> it doesn't send a good message. my guess is, i don't claim to be an expert -- that the overwhelming majority of the people coming across from central america through mexico are coming because they see an opportunity to come to america. the traditional values of the u.s. would say try to put every one of them through some test to see whether they were genuinely fleeing persecution or other abuse and then we try to find a home for them. unfortunately, there is a message now that the doors are open and if you get here, you're going to stay here. and that's not what we want to have happen. so again, i'm really upset that my former colleagues in congress didn't come up with a bipartisan program that would raise security and then try to make exceptions when people really seem to be fleeing abuse or persecution. >> it's a great op ed. >> thank you. >> coming up, this man celebrating his birthday by handing out his own money? you saw him doing it moments ago right outside the studio. wait. where did he go? >> i could always use a couple bucks. >> oh! >> look at that. >> on monday, i'm going to send him down to see you guys. in a moment, developments in an entire american town told not to drink the water. we will tell you why. the latest on the americans and the ebola scare. breaking news in the middle east. and isis is grabbing even more land in 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adolph peters, is giving away all kinds of cash and he's out on our plaza now. we have a larger crowd than normal out there. >> adolph, what were you thinking? you're not a multi-millionaire. why did you want to give away your own money, one dollar at a time? >> with all the things going on in the world today, i just wanted to inspire people, let them know there are still good folks left out there. i think it's a great way to spend your birthday, helping others and showing others that there are still really good people out there who do care about society and our fellow man. >> how many people do you think just saw you holding a sign up and thought you wanted money rather than the other way around? >> that's quite interesting 'cause a lot of people did come up to me and tried to give me money and when i explained to them when i was doing, they thought that was really cool. so they gave me money to give to the next guy. so it was really neat. >> has anybody not accepted your money? >> yes. there was quite a few that did not accept the money. they said no. we appreciate that. but give it to someone that actually could use it. >> good for them. >> is there anybody who didn't accept the money because they thought something nefarious was going on, because there can't possibly be somebody on the planet who is this nice. >> that's what was odd about it is that it's not the norm to give money to complete strangers. and -- no, everybody either did accept it or ask to give it to someone else. >> there are a bunch of strangers behind you. do you feel moved to work your magic on them? >> absolutely. let's give it a shot. >> all right. >> anybody want some money? >> yeah! >> anybody? >> great. thank you. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. >> how about you, sir? >> i love this. >> you get a car, you get a car! >> thank you. >> we're heading out to the streets ourselves (vo) get ready! fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real 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hannity is giving us his slot for this hour of reporting. we have been all over the country the past few months. it's amazing, people's stories is a big part of the mid terms. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. this is a fox news alert. an ebola scare in washington, d.c. today a scare near the pentagon. a bus packed with people quarantined when the woman got sick and falsely claimed she had been to africa. also today, president obama pointing an aebola caesar to point the nation to this giant medical crisis. not a doctor, no medical background, a lawyer and lobbyist and democratic political operative. is this the best person for the job? the best president obama can do? the white house already under fire for handling of ebola response. has the administration's ebola response been botched right from the beginning all the way back in march the world health organization reported ebola outbreak and then in august the world health organization declaring the epidemic to be public health emergency of international concern. what did the obama administration do many say nothing or at best the white house is very slow to do anything. tonight we have live team coverage with all the ebola developments. galveston, texas, awaiting cruise ship, carrying quarantine lab worker from presbyterian health hospital. she was in a lab with ebola samples just days before boarding the ship. andrea watkins joins us live. andrea, tell me what's going on with this ship and this passenger? >> all right, greta. well, as far as we know, this use cruise ship called the magic from carnival crews lines is going to be docking on sunday. that's actually the scheduled docking day. but they headed home a little bit early because cozumel refused to allow them to doc today. the cruise line said they learned late wednesday from the cdc that there was a patient on board that had been in contact with contaminated medical waste from dallas presbyterian. that is where the ebola patient thomas duncan passed away. the medical worker was self-monitoring at the time she boarded the ship on sunday, but apparently she didn't tell the crews line that now, carnival says the woman is now quarantine on the ship even though she hasn't shown any signs or symptoms of having ebola. right now she is 19 days into that crucial 21-day incubation period. so the cdc considers her at very low risk of ever contracting the disease, but nobody is taking any chances. belize did not allow her or her husband to get off the ship. then the surprise this morning came when cozumel would not even allow the ship to dock. that puts the rest of the passengers maybe disappointed what you could say. they were tweeting they were stuck outside of cozumel but carnival is offering them $200 credit on their account and auto% off the next crews cruise line. whether or not things are really strained on the ship we will find out sunday when it docks here. if the ship was over here at this port, you would be able to see it's a massive ship, of course, on my other shoulder, over here is utmv galveston, they are the best when it comes to infectious diseases. research and doctors here. they say that they are ready if indeed it's necessary to take this patient in across the street from the cruise ship. they will take her in for observation. right now they haven't had to do anything medically for this patient because she is not presented with any symptoms whatsoever. back to you, greta? >> andrea, thank you. of course this woman is 19 days into the 21 days which he we understand the to be the cut off. wait until you hear this. did you know there is a special ebola screening machine, the military uses it in africa. believe it or not, the dallas hospital at the center of the ebola crisis has one, too. so why aren't they using it? and why didn't they use it on mr. duncan when he first showed up at the hospital on september 19th when ebola type symptoms? patrick tucker joins us. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> what is this machine? >> it's called a film ray, from a company called biofire. it's about toaster size. you take a sample, you stick it in there after about an hour it's going to tell you what you have got. it depends on what kit you arm it with. right now the f.d.a. has approved the use of this machine for detecting certain types of illnesses like listeria, types of influenza. if you want to use it to detect ebola, you have to get a special kit for ebola. like a little software pac. the thing is though this dallas hospital, though they had the machine, they weren't authorized to use it to screen for ebola because it wasn't a research-use only machine. according to the f.d.a. guidelines. >> did they have the software? i understand there are two considerations here. whether they had the software to make it so they could test for ebola is the first thing. seconds thing whether the machine was capable. and then, of course, the other is a designation. could it have done it? >> if they had the software, they did not. so you have to designate the machine as research-only. you call -- get you the software kit immediately. they are very up on this. that is just a fedex exchange be that needs to happen. they didn't have the kit. you have to change your designation in order to get it then once they had that it would have taken an hour to properly diagnose. >> what designation it had in this hospital? >> well, it's a clinical diagnostic machine. you use it. >> but if you say it's only for research, you vkdz looked for ebola? >> exactly. if you tell the f.d.a. we're only going to use this for research, then you can use it to actually take care of parents that might have ebola. if you want to use it to, you know, clinically diagnose listeria and not for treating ebola patients, then it gets to retain its clinical diagnosis status. >> you agree that's a little nutty only one. pretty crazy. patrick, thank you. the first dallas nurse infected with ebola nina pham is now in the d.c. area. she arrived on a specially equipped private jet last night and now being treated at the national institutes of health. catherine herridge is live at nih with the very latest. catherine? >> thanks, greta. that's right. nina pham is being treated here at the national institutes of health. before heading to maryland, the dallas hospital released a video where pham thanked them for their care and they thanked her for volunteering to help thomas duncan, the first ebola case to die in the u.s. >> >> really proud of you. after the three-hour flight, doctors here at the nih, told reporters that pham was well enough to walk off the jet and on to the ambulance. but they described the transfer as extremely taxing and draining for pham who tonight is described to be in fair condition. the nih also provided this photo to reporters today of the isolation unit where pham is being treated while at the same time, he they are gathering data to better understand the virus, whether it's mutated and the best way to treat symptoms. bizarre episode at the pentagon today, a woman claiming to be a defense contractor who had recently traveled to liberia got on a shuttle bus, then said she felt sick and got off and threw up. this created a lot of investigation here in washington, d.c. this afternoon over whether the people on the bus should be quarantined and whether the first responders should also be tested. but our contacts tonight tell us once they got that woman to the hospital, and they got on the path to testing her for ebola, she quickly revealed that she had made the entire story up, greta. >> catherine, that falls under the headline never dull. thank you, catherine. and the nation's new so-called ebola czar ron is a former chief of staff to vice president biden and obama white house advisor. now has many asking why did president obama chose political owe pointee instead of medical expert to lead the fight. joining us is bob cusack, "the washington post" jackie kucinich, and the chief political correspondent byron york. i don't know why we needed a czar. i would have been happy to have the secretary at the cabinet level burr well do it but anyway i don't get to make that call, how about ron klein. >> if they did choose one, why did they choose one without any medical experience? it's a big question mark. the white house says they did it because he has extensive managerial experience. they have pointed to the fact that he was in vice president biden's office when the administration was handing out billions and billions of dollars in the stimulus which worked across a bunch of government agencies. they have point that to as his main experience. is that transferable to dealing with ebola? i just don't know. the last problem is he doesn't report to the president himself. he reports to the top national security bureaucracy. you wonder if it's adding another layer into this so far bureaucracy. >> i don't know if you wonder. i think it's practically a given that adding another layer. jackie, your thought on this? >> he knows how to navigate the bureaucracy and they trust him. trust is a big deal to this particular white house. i think that's another reason why. >> navigate bureaucracy how to deal with all these hospitals and patients. >> also a bureaucracy in a way. so, and also he has a relationship with the hill, which is -- he worked for biden when he was at the senate judiciary committee as well. also someone who knows how to navigate those personalities as well which they are not too good at. >> sounds to me they are hiring a baseball player to play football own weekends. >> unusual pic, administration prerogative if he doesn't do welling we will still be talking about this issue. i did think they need to bring somebody in because at the press conference this week on the second patient in dallas, there was no one from the federal government at that press conference. that's outrageous. >> we have people, we have a cabinet level. hhs secretary. when we had the anthrax scare we had tommy thompson who took charge. what's wrong with having secretary burwell do it. >> maybe furwell but frieden has lost credibility. he said hospitals are equipped to do this clearly wrong. >> fine, get burwell. >> at the white house news conference this week josh earnst said this is before the appointment of cain said that the national security advisor was i understand grating the response. does that mean she is in charge? he said no not really. he listed all these other agencies. he said is there any one person in charge you? would expect him to answer the president of the united states and he didn't. >> i wouldn't expect him because on august 11st, this is what the president said about ebola. i wouldn't be surprised he can't answer that question. on august 1st he said in part, keep in mind ebola is not something that is easily transmitted. that's why generally outbreaks dissipate. not easily transmitted, how's come people in hazmat suits dr. brantly got ebola. on august 1st he doesn't even think it's very con teenagous. -- contagious. >> don't they all know that? >> it seems like this is a political move. in a lot of ways, to say okay, look, we are bringing in someone else who is just going to handle it. >> bring in dr. tom coburn, u.s. senate, bring in a republican who might at least put down some of the temperature on the political. >> that's a lot of the criticism that you are hearing, someone with some medical experience. >> burr well has got to deal with obamacare so she has her hands full already. >> you aren't appalled by this choice? >> i think it's an unusual pick. >> unusual or appalled? >> let's see how he does. >> this is a political choice. one operative today told the "new york times" that klain would help with messaging and turning down the political heat on that. >> it is inconceivable to me that we are talking about making political choices when many in the nation, whether rightfully or wrongfully terrified of ebola. inconceivable that everyone in washington is stepping all over each other adding to the bureaucracy and picking someone with no experience. maybe it's just me. >> it's the mid terms so close. >> sometimes, you know, if we were a little bit smarter. in fact if we paid attention to the world health organization in march, we wouldn't have this problem. >> best way to deal with the politics of this is to deal with the substance of it successfully and show that$a5. you are on top of things. >> indeed, thank you, panel. >> there is growing outrage over the cdc's ebola response. many americans are wondering how at risk healthcare workers were allowed to board cruise ships, tom frieden saying from now on no one involved in thomas duncan's care will be able to traveled uncontrolled environment meaning public transportation. john mccain joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> your thought tonight? we have a cruise ship, bus in washington. questionable things going on right now. people traveling on airplanes. what should would he be doing? first thing we should be doing is declaring that anyone in one of those countries now afflicted with ebola, if they want to come to the united states, they should be quarantined for 21 days and then given a blood test there should be no one coming from those countries to the united states of america unless we are absolutely sure that they have not been tainted by ebola. until we do that in my view, we are putting the american people in danger. and i would also like to say that the appointment of mr. klain who has no experience whatsoever on this or any other medical issue as a lobbyist and a democrat frankly does not fill the bill for a czar and the capabilities because he has no experience or knowledge or background in medicine. >> i know that you were -- or you are in favor of a czar. maybe not mr. klain. i disagree with that and i'm curious if you think i'm wrong. that's sort of the job of the secretary of hhs. tommy thompson was the secretary anthrax scare. we do have someone with that job. now that we have a czar we introduce a whole new bureaucracy. turf wars warning who is supposed to do what. already have a cabinet level person, a secretary of hhs who answers to the president. why do we need a czar? for weeks now no one in charge. largely the secretary of hhs, sylvia burwell very capable individual. there was nobody. that's why some of us said, look, who is in charge? put somebody in charge could have made her the czar. the american people need to look to someone who has the knowledge expertise background can assure them we are taking the measures necessary. and frankly i don't think mr. klain fits the bill as a partisan democrat. certainly not in any effort to address this issue in a bipartisan fashion. >> back in march, the world health organization roared a a rash of case of ebola the worst ever seen in africa. >> we have done something maybe he wouldn't have come here to the united states. >> i think one thing that is very clear we have been reassured quite honestly falsely. we were ahead of the cdc that ebola wouldn't come to the united states of america. now there is allegation that this come called the dc saying i have got a temperature can i fly on a an airplane? they say go ahead. that's what happens when you have a lack of leadership and discipline and that isn't just this issue. it's the irs, it's the secret service, frankly, it's also our entire approach to the situation in the middle east and this iraq and syria which continues to deteriorate. is there anybody who believes that what we're doing now will degrade and destroy isis? i don't know of anyone. >> all right. so, i guess that you haven't named the person but do you believe the blame squarely falls on president obama being sort of, you know, slow to react to these crises? >> of course. but he has been slow to every one. what leaders are supposed to be. i hearken back to ronald reagan. ronald reagan would have been on national television looking in the camera and saying my fellow americans we are facing a crisis here and here is what i am doing because i'm in charge. here are the people that you can look to. from there is ways of addressing crises and it requires, first of all, presidential leadership. that has been missing throughout the last six years. >> disheartening that we knew from the world health organization and apparently got no attention until it has now exploded all over us. hopefully this is the end of it and it's not going to get bigger. senator, thank you. who has he chosen to be the ebola czar in you wonder? go to gretawire.com and hear his answer. >> charles krauthammer says the u.s. government still steps behind the ebola virus. that sounds very grim since ebola moves very fast. charles krauthammer goes "on the record" next. plus, tonight there is ebola vaccine being tested on humans. we are going to take you inside that government lab where it's being done, a tour you will only get right here "on the record" coming up. and, of course, everyone is asking about bentley he is nurse nina pham's dog. is he in quarantine, too. see how bentley is doing for yourself. stay tuned. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. people who know me, to this day they say,tix. 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show that you have a handle on the epidemic that you know how to quarantine people that you will impose a ban on travel if you have to. and why do they wait a day or two to release the name of a victim. if you want people to be aware of any contact, the fastest way to make them aware is to release the name. but, of course, for reasons of privacy, we don't. that is completely misplaced. we have to get out of those habits and understand we have got a serious issue here. >> charles, always nice to see you, thank you. >> pleasure. and straight ahead, how do we know if an ebola vaccine will really work? you have to take the vaccine and expose yourself to live ebola virus in the lab where the vaccine is being tested is next. ♪ want to change the world? create things that help people. design safer cars. faster computers. smarter grids and smarter phones. think up new ways to produce energy. ♪ be an engineer. solve problems the world needs solved. what are you waiting for? changing the world is part of the job description. 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>> preliminary chain reaction. testing for acid testing virus for [inaudible] in this case from the h.i.v. virus. and count detects for genetic mutation and specific for. so, this lab, [inaudible] and they have been kind enough and' ebola vaccine testing. ptr test. that's where the genetic material in the vaccine virus help us quan at a quanitae that. >> a swab of saliva. >> we frm" three different types of samples for this particular trial. plasma, take blood thin it down and get the mazda that. >> that's the blood spun into the yellow, basically? has some amount of the virus in there from the vaccine. >> it's actually spun. spun in the centrifuge and pull -- doesn't have any cells. and then we take a little portion, put it into, freeze it down, send it over to these guys. and they are able to test it to see if there is virus in there. we also have urine samples that we send to them and also do a swab in the mouth that we put into a special storage lab and also test that has the virus or create the vaccine? what are you testing it on. >> safety and how the vaccine behaves and individuals that are vaccinated. how long it's in your blood. is a live have a and urine. think you might be able to detect vaccine virus. and we'll be able to track how long it's there at what point do you vaccine testing. every day individuals come early period. nonhuman primate studies, the monkeys tested with the similar vaccine. you know, typically early on in the trial. after they were vaccinated, they had a short period where you could detect the vaccine virus in their bodies. and so forth trial volunteers, getting sampled very early after vaccination following them until they are negative. can't defect it anymore. >> this is how the vaccine is doing. >> i asked this earlier and still confused. if i go through the whole trial everything is fine. how do i know if i have vaccinated against ebola? don't i have to go out and expose myself or is there some test. >> when you go out and expose yourself. >> i'm not -- i'm trying to think how do you know if a vaccine works? >> again, there is typically two ways. i will compare it to it -- i will throw in another scenario malaria. wea,úxñ do a malaria vaccine here. a challenge model. normally when you vaccinate; you know, you can do all your nice preclinical work or parallel work in nonhuman primates or monkeys, vaccinate them with a similar product in a similar manner. those animals can be tested against the disease such as ebola you can get a good estimate of how good you think that vaccine works. however, the monkeys are not people. so, in people, we measure immune response and sigh if we get similar immune responses to the monkeys or other vaccinations need to show similar, like protective level of protection. otherwise, traditionally, you have to go do field trials. so, for whether they get ebola or not? >> malaria trial. you have to go to a place malaria. we have what's -- we grow malaria here and raise your own mosquitoes and do it in a very controlled setting. it's a great advantage. we can go within our own building vaccinate and assess people for did the malaria vaccine work four? 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ask your doctor about farxiga and visit our website to learn how you may be able to get every month free. government and islamic extremist. boko haram agreeing to a cease-fire. deal released hundreds of kidnapped school girls. april 14th the terrorist group kidnapped more than 270 girls to their school. no word on when or if the girls will actually be released. of course, there is much concern about their condition. there have been reports of mass rape and sell of some of the girls. nigerian christian man shot in the face by coca haram says the school girl's kidnapping brought back memories of his own terrifying ordeal. we spoke with survivor hadamu. >> tell me what happened. what kind of day was it? >> wednesday 2 0th november, 2012. around 11:00 p.m. the boko haram came to my house around 11 p.m. come out. did i so. >> did you know them? ever see them before? >> no. they have covered their face there are four of them with ak 47. all that i am here -- we are here to do -- they are there to kill me. and what i did, i submitted myself to god surrendered myself to god. >> did the four men say anything to you? >> yeah, we i told them that i'm a christian. >> you knew that was an answer that was a death sentence? >> yes. and one of them if i can change my mind, i can live my own life. and i say no,. >> and? >> one of them fired ak 47. >> hitting you where? >> from my nose the bullet passed through my nose. ak 47. >> more often. >> worse. >> in fact, greta, if i may, what has happened is that isis boko haram has not capture ited territory. killing christians. but, again global spotlight is not there. >> one4v;evi;ñ show. thankfully we have a big audience and gretawire. what i don't understand is why there is not more attention from the american media actually international media what's going on in nigeria by boko haram is equal to what's going on. actually killed more than isis doing numbers. >> doing numbers. doing nationalities because boko haram has killed people from over 15 countries, including norway, britain, the united kingdom. italy, germany, they have people they have killed. but some there is still this false notion that this is request b. economic nawttlez in the country. no it's not. it's about jihad. it's the same spirit. it's about the same ideology. same theological. theology. >> if you are a christian, you are dead. >> if you are an infidel. >> how many people did they kill that night? >> 14. >> i'm the sole survivor. >> christians we know each other. we are few. only kill the men and leave the women. but now they have changed it they will kill even the little ones, 2 years. is it more cruel? is it what they think is just more cruel than shooting someone in the head? what's the point of that? >> yeah. because they have seen some people surviving. >> head shot? >> yeah. >> because you lived? >> yeah. >> you you can see more of this christian man's story. our full interview is posted on gretawire.com. and straight ahead, reports isis now has fighter and the former u.s. ambassador to iraq and syria joins us. that's next. protection of depend underwear. show them they're not alone. and show off a pair of depend. get a free sample at underwareness.com ♪ save your coffee from the artificial stuff. ♪ switch to truvia. great tasting, zero-calorie sweetness... ...from the stevia leaf. this is disturbing, a report tonight that pilots training isis to fly fighter jets. that is according to a syrian activist group. the command says it is not aware of isis flying jets in syria. joining us iraq and syria ambassador ryan crocker now dean of the bush school of government texas a&m university. good evening, sir. >> good evening was the detearation of iraq inevitable. i. >> i think we made some mistakes. iraqis made some mistakes. good news there is that mistakes can be corrected. i don't see inevitability about it. the mistake we made was not just with drivewaying our troops at the end of 2011 but also putting an end to high level political engagement. the iraqi system won't run on its own. it's not mature enough. it takes us in the middle. we pulled ourselves out i think that led to where we are today it can be corrected if we get back in the game in a big way couldn't. >> couldn't get a status of forces agreement. a lot of disagreement whether we could have gotten one or not gotten one. >> in your opinion we have gotten one which would have enabled us to withdraw in a different manner? >> well, we got one in 2008 when i was ambassador. i think we could have gotten one again if we had perhaps taken a different tact. but, you know, we can argue about that all we want. the reality is we now have a status of forces agreement. accomplished in a few hours. this is time for a new era. time for the u.s. to reengage. >> what would you recommend now, in light of where we are now, what's the best way to put a lid on this and move forward in the best way? first the main effort right now i believe has to be political. i think secretary kerry is going to have to be spending a lot of time in baghdad. i think same thing as we work with the iraqis to make sure they have inclusive government that brings in sunnies, she a and kurds in a common front against a common enemy. that's only going to happen if we do some high level heavy lifting. the second thing is i think we need to substantially increase the number of our special forces deployed to iraq and as the iraqis regroup their military forces with our help and that will be a heavy lift too. need to start embedding our advisors with their forces at least down to the ba battalion level if there is going to be hope of rolling isis back inside iraq. >> well, there is always so much to discuss. always so short of time. i regret to have this short ambassador. i do hope you come back. i also know you spent time in syria. rich history and experience help us all learn. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> coming up. many of you have been asking about bethly. nurse nina pham's dog. in quarantine, too. straight from the kind people taking care of him next. sweered lobster'sory! endless shrimp ends soon! the year's largest variety. like new spicy siriacha shrimp, or parmesan shrimp scampi. as much as you like, any way you like. but it won't last long, so hurry in today. and sea food differently. 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from fashion retailers to healthcare providers, jewelers to sporting good stores, we provide financing solutions for all sorts of businesses. banking. loyalty. analytics. synchrony financial. engage with us. a deeply personal topic for the hard charging journalist who died yesterday at the age of fae. good morning, everyone. welcome to we have nicole wallace with us co-host of "the view." and democratic national committee howard dean. good to have you both on board with joe and me this morning. >> the new york times this morning are quoting somebody said that ben bradlee was the last of the lion king newspaper editors. he could be classy or approach fame, an energetic figure with a boxer's nose and almost invarably dressed in a white collar bold stripe. >> and very salty language all the time. >> he was, it's described elsewhere, a lot of tom brokaw remembers ben in a few minutes here with us and was, it was said that he drove the washington post too fast around corners. >> he drove it to its greatness, really. >> only four pulitzers before he got there. i guess 16, 17 after he was there. a remarkable flg in the history of person media. >> i think it's bradlee the for washington post executor who led the coverage of the watergate and the pentagon papers died tuesday at his home in washington, d.c. tom brokaw has more on bradlee's life and incredible legacy. >> reporter: benjamin bradlee, boston harvard man. heavy action during world war ii. he made "news week" into a power journalism and palled around with another man jfk. bradlee became the most famous newspaper editor in the world him he guided two rookie reporters through watergate. the him. nixon is involved, wiretapping. lives at steak. this is going the distance. his question was, what the hell do we do now? which is the question of somebody who realizes we are in totally uncharted water. >> we asked ours a lot of questions. you could all of the be true? how could somebody with all that much to lose put it at risk every day? >> bradlee, woodward and bernstein had help, but they were the team that nailed the nixon coverup. and ben was in charge. >> he had daring, he had -- let's call it by its proper name -- he had balls. he was willing to be dangerous. >> he wanted to be first with the story. but he never wanted to be wrong. >> reporter: the legendary editor and young fighters became rich and famous on and on the big screen in "all the president's men." . >> god dam it when is somebody going on record on this story. >> reporter: the fourth member of the team was katherine graham, former editor of the washington post, kay as she was known stood fast by ben when nixon's allies were threatening to take down the newspaper. >> hold it. haldeman only happens to be the second most important man in this country, conducting a conspiracy from inside the white house. it would be nice if we were right. >> reporter: bradlee and his third wife, samly quinn, shorthand for power couple. he was known for his charm, star power and profanity. >> jesus, what kind could have a [ bleep ] story is this? >> he was the epitome of newsman charisma. even when he walked across the newsroom, which he would do a couple times a day, he had this effect that made you want to do better. >> reporter: bradlee stumbled after watergate, publishing a prize series on an 8-year-old heroin addict. it was a hoax. that salty have have been a larry, a dashing journalist off the front page. >> it's my kind of hard. i lithat. if you are right, it isn't hard. >> joining us from washington, contributing writer for the fork times magazine jeff hymnmelman. he spent four years working with ben bradlee writing his biography, "yours in truth. "a personal portrait of ben bradlee, a man in search of the truth, really, jeff? >> absolutely. absolutely. thank you for having me here. it's a sad day for all the obvious reasons. >> jeff, so it's interesting the question it was a asked that woodward said that he asked, after finding out that richard nixon, the president of the united states, was involved in a conspiracy, what the hell do we do now might be a question that any editor ask, what made that question so pressing for a guy like ben bradlee is ben came from the old school. >> right. >> he was really good friends with presidents. he was really close to jfk. he pal 'ed around on presidents, reported on them. watergate changed all of that, for ben bradlee to go from the insider's insider to be the guy that blew up the white house had to be remarkably vertigennous for him let's say. >> at a time like this you tend to think about what someone's legacy is. with ben the legacy is it's so enormous. i think one of the things that can be safely said about ben is he safely walked that track. i think when he took over the walk post, he became the managing editor and took the reigns in 1968. one of the first things he did was to try to separate the post-interests from the interests of the establishment. there was a famous case the mayor of the city of washington, for the one wanted the post to leak it. the post decided to leak it because they decide we're not the mouthpiece for the governor area. it was a stance that ben really took from the very beginning of his time at the "post." he had "newsweek" when he was pal'ing in around with jfk. i think it put a stamp on it in a way nobody will forget. >> howard dean, chime in on what you see. >> i would love to know this guy was the giant in my lifetime. they won't make anybody like him anymore. the reason is the media has changed so much. i wondered when you interviewed him as you did for four years, what did he think of the new media? what did he think of the new standards, get it fast and not so much get it right? >> you know, it's interesting. i think ben would have been the first to say, he didn't want to say much about new media, blocks and things like that were something that never interested him. what struck me when he would go to panels and people asked that very question. what he would always say he never knew what form it was going to take, he was optimistic that this pursuit of the truth and this need for people to know the truth to find the truth that rely that somebody out there digging. i think he alwaysed a faith somebody would carry on that work, whatever form it took. i think he was right. he's not very comfortable with computers and things like that. i think he was right and that optimistic struck me. >> it's called gut instinct. thank you so much. we have a lot of politics to get to there is a personal side to this they had ben and samly, one of our first book parties at their home, they were so kind to do that and just think one other side to this is their personal story and if you check out the c span interview that they did on ben's final days and how they shared them together, it is extremely beautiful the way she helped him leave this world. >> i remember you telling, calling me after in tears. >> beautiful. >> your comments. my god. >> the most important part of his life. >> they loved each other so much. we got a ton of politics. a ton of new polls. i just have to ask you, though, nicole wallace, obviously, somebody at the center of things at the white house, some people might ask, what's worse? a system where the press pal 'ed around with presidents like ben bradlee pal 'ed around with jfk or a situation we have now where the white house hates the press so much and not just this white house, but white houses hate the press so much that there is absolutely no access him so at the end of the day you never get close to the president. >> i think that anyone in journalism and 97 politics would agree what we have now in far worse. i went to journalism school because of ben bradlee, i went to forth western. the person that everyone wanted to grow up and work for was ben bradlee. that was the fantasy. so, you know, that he sort of birthed at least two generations of aspiring truth seekers is part of his legacy that he may not even have known about in life. and i think that what he reigned over was a washington that everybody misses. chris matthews on his show talks a lot. he wrote a book about it. reagan and tip o'neill, it was a washington where after they were done punping each other, they had a beer or a cigar or drink. it is a washington that everybody in journalism and everybody in politics misses. >> all right. we'll have much more on this ahead. let's get to politics now a. lot of fee, last night t. candidates for u.s. senate seat in new hampshire both came out swinging if their first televised debate. polls show jean shaheen and former for scott brown running neck and neck in a race that could clash obamacare and why brown was even running at all. >> you had two chances to run for the u.s. senate in massachusetts in 2013 and 2014. why not take those? >> because i live here. i mean i live here. i live here. i was born at the portsmouth faithful ship yard. my mom was a waitress at hampton beach. i have long and strong ties. i am running because i care about new hampshire and restoreing america. that's why i'm running. >> when he lost his race, he didn't move to new hampshire and say i want to get lost in this state. he ran for massachusetts and went out to iowa and said he was thinking about running for president. well, i don't think new hampshire is a cons lakes prides. i think we feed a senator, we need a senator who is going to put new hampshire first. >> imagine you are at home wearing your new hampshire citizen hat and you get a call from a pollster asking the following question, do you approve of the job president obama is doing? now, there will be a chance to follow up. this is a yes or no answer. do you approve, yes or no? >> in some ways aapprove and some things i don't approve. so, you know. like most questions, that we deal with as policy makers, there aren't simple answers yes or no. >> democratic senator elizabeth warren will head to new hampshire to campaign for senator shaheen this saturday almost two years sense she won in massachusetts. it's within 3% of the margin of error. >> this race is so tight. there are so many races that can go either way. you wonder whether states like colorado and new hampshire that usually break democratic are going to break democratic the time and states like kansas that usually and georgia that usually break republican are going to break republican. >> there are a lot of really, really close races. this i think is not one of them. i know what the polls say. at the end of the day, since i come from the sister state of new hampshire and i'm in the sister state of nortch now, there is a strong feeling in northern new england that carpet bagging is not okay and i don't care if scott brown's mother worked for the portsmouth whatever it was dairy queen or whatever as a waitress. >> i agree with you that from 30,000 feet you would think this would be a bicker problem. why is this race so close against an established physical like jean shaheen? >> because, because of president obama's approval ratings. that's, you look, the republican versus done a terrific job in this way. they've nationalized the election, first of all, which is a good thing in a sixth year of the president. more importantly, they've made the issue the president. so they can avoid all this controversial stuff that they've gotten if trouble with in the past you know too much abandoning abortion entirely, being anti-gay, anti-immigrant, the crazy stuff of ebola coming across the border from mexico. most of that has been drowned out. the other races are close. the reason i think this one isn't is when you go into the both as you know well, there is a sort of a little switch that goes on. those that are under tide is sided, something flips them over. the something is scott brown close to race and decided not to. >> a lot of mid-term fireworks to get to coming up. i wanted to show you one other piece of video, chris christie talking about the minimum wage at a chamber of commerce event yesterday in walk. take a look. >> to tell you the truth, i'm tired of hearing about the minimum wage. i really am. i don't think will is a mother or a father sitting around a kitchen table tonight in america saying, you know, honey, if our son or daughter could just make a higher minimum wage, my god, all our dreams will be realized. is that what parents aspire to for their children? they aspire to a greater growing america where their children have the ability to make much more money and have much greater success than they've had and that's not about a higher minimum wage, everybody. >> what do you think of that, mica? >> i would counter what elizabeth warren said earlier this week, her mother had to step in after her father became ill and get a job that she went to go work at sears and had a minimum wage job that paid for the family and got them through hard times. we think that in a big way. >> i think to christie's point, he gave us a speech. i remember we talked about it here. it was the republican response to income and equality. he talks about income and equality. i think we should be cautious not to take his comments of minimum wage out of isolation from his larger message about opportunity and equality. >> did you think those comments were taken out of -- >> i think his larger point about minimum wage, which he's made many times in battleground states, he should be more careful. >> he wouldn't be sitting back stage clinching a bit if. >> i have heard him make these comments about minimum wage shining the light on the wrong side of the economy. he has a larger message that is very powerful. i wish more republicans would adapt about opportunity to equality and aspiring to a minimum wage job. >> i says you all foe as we all know the sense coming out of this is i'm tired of hearing about the minimum wage. >> it's not a good one. >> i hate to say this is the kind of stuff i used to do on the campaign trail. you can't do it. your press people boat into you, you do not say sentences like that. >> there are also some issues, the republicans have to get smart on. >> give up. >> on the cane trail. can i sit and have an economic debate about the minimum wage. >> sewer, you could. you could win the debate if you want. >> i was against raising the minimum wage when i was in congress. but this is an issue the republicans need to wake unto it's fallen far behind where it should be. if you believe in the minimum wage and most americans believe in the minimum wage, yes, a republican can go on the campaign trail and say minimum wage is really about taking money out of the pockets of some poor people and giving it to other poor people. republicans have lost the debate by that point. they've lost the debate by that point. you are never going to be able to give people a living wage on minimum wage by jumping up to $15 to $20 an hour. but republicans need to get smart on this issue before the 2016 race because right now it needs to be raised. it needs to be indecked. yes, i can have the philosophic am debate how states should decide what a minimum wage would be. in a perfect world that would be fine. if we want to go to teach xiblgs, we can do that. if we want to win presidential elections, we feed to understand there are single moms out there right now that aren't sick and tired about discussions about the minimum wage. >> at all. >> there are people struggling praying the minimum wage goes up a little bit. >> i think chris christie is one of them is my only point. >> why did he say that to the chamber? if he had said that in let's say a tough part of newark, nuvenlg i would respect him tan in the claim ber of commerce, where it's a very safe callous sounding thing to say. >> i don't disagree with you at all. we have to wait to see how he responds to this i have heard him say more similar things than you have said about the minimum wage. his only point, i believe is that the opportunity in equality is as grave and peril on the minimum wage as is the actual low wage in there i know you understand the, republicans need to understand the greatest threat to the republican party being a permanent minority, if we continue to be callous to working or sound callous. we have lost not only the working class, we have lost the middle class. we lose it by sounding overly -- and young people. >> still ahead on "morning joe," we are down to the home stretch to the election. the chairman of the democratic national committee. coming woman debbie waserman schultz joins us and valerie plame is here. we'll show you what happened after the singer got the officer to read the actual policy out loud. >> also, mcdonald's take big earnings hit yesterday and you know what, i'm going to blamepy mica. >> why? 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>> he was performing at a brooklyn subway station when an officer ordered him to leave because he didn't have a perm the singer refused and had him read aloud the mta rules that proved he was doing nothing illegal him when neither side backed down the officer called for backup. this is what happened next. ♪ ♪ >> stop. let's go ♪ how i wish you were here. >> hey. hey. you can't do. oh. >> he was arrested, charged withlightering. he is due in court on friday. >> was he doing something wrong? >> apparently not after having the mta rules read aloud. it proved he was not in violation of being there to sing. however this performer has gone on to file a complaint. yesterday local musicians and two at the council members rallied at a local station to show spoermt we have another picture of those gathered. >> that continues. yes, he was there capturing all that, the guy taking his guitar. all right, we have an update on cooper and mike jones works are they? they are speaking about -- >> i think this phrase, as long as it doesn't tais me bro. and we had don't touch me, girlfriend. >> that was the awkward moment it was a caught on camera while early voting in chicago on monday, the two happened to find themselves voting alongside president obama. it was then mike who decided to have some fun. here's a portion of their exchange. . >> cute. last night they spoke to chris hayes about what they were thinking as it all unfocused. >> why? why in why would do you this? and i was just nervous, super nervous. and i couldn't believe he said that another part of me was like shut up before i tackle you. shut up. >> it was an experience i wanted to give her. i knew she was nervous going up there in the booth next to him. she probably wasn't paying attention to her ballot. it wasn't anything the president did. i want to make that clear. it was just something that i always do to her. she knows very well, it's my personally. i am very spontaneous. i will put her out in the front of anyone in order to make her smile and laugh like she did there that is cute. i think she should marry him. >> i don't know. they should now. >> president obama can go to their wedding. >> he can officiate. >> wouldn't you think he would say, don't bother the president. don't touch him while he's voting, something like. and the president handled it so well. the president's response was perfect. that's what made it. other politicians would stiffen up. >> i like getting to pete mike. meek has a great personality. >> i can tell. >> okay. coming up. >> i like mike. >> using the internet as a weapon. new evidence points to isis recruiting american teenage girls to fight its war in syria. plus, today's top columnists are writing about. don't go away. we'll be right back with much more "morning joe." an unprecedented program arting busithat partners businesses with universities across the state. for better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. and you pay no taxes for ten years. from biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo... startup-ny has new businesses popping up across the state. see how startup-ny can help your business grow at startup.ny.gov oats go! wow! go power oats! go! go power! yayyyy! ameriprise asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you have enough money to live life on your terms? 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>> i can't think of anyone. >> no. he actually had a shirtless portrait of him taken when he was in his mid-80s. he looked better than 99. % of men walking there today. john meacham. we were asking the question before, you've studied presidents far more than we have, but, you know, most people in journalism school would be horrified by the close relationship that ben bradlee had with jfk. like today standards. but i'm sorry, didn't we find out more about the president and learn more about what the president was doing inside the white house when presidents and members of the press were close compared to what it's been like for the past 15, 20 years? were there bitter enemies and just don't talk, don't give any access. >> sometimes in moments of death and commemoration we're overly nostalgic. this is not one of those moments. you can't be too nostalgic. he was charmd, personified, he produced more man crushes than anyone has ever. i'm as boring a heterosexual as you will ever find, if bradlee said, all right, let's go, i'd say, all right, man. >> two thumbs up. >> i don't think i'm alone in that. you know, if ben had, he was very close to john kennedy, a neighbor in george town, if he had been comfortable with power in a way that had affected his coverage and made him pull punches, that would be one thing. he was comfortable with power. almost more than most presidents because he was going to be there, they were going to leave. but this was a man close to kennedy and toppled nixon. if anybody thinks that was partisan, they're wrong. he was an equal opportunity journalist in the sense that whoever was in power was treated with immense accideskepticism. i think if he was are a democrat, it wouldn't have mattered. he was about chasing the story. >> that has implications. >> that does have implications. we have been in the post-watergate world. are we better off? >> we got generation upon generation of people who said i went in journalism because of woodward and bernstein. it wouldn't have happened without the culture that bradlee created and he couldn't cleiate that culture without mrs. great. without being nostalgic, it was a remarkable golden era. >> stay with us. >> i love it. >> it's time to go. >> running against. >> okay, he has a wife name kate. you know. she didn't lock like bradlee. >> for the. >> right. up next, running against president obama, our next guest says it was the gop's only strategy to take the senate and according to her, it's failing. congress woman debbie waserman schultz joins us next. . ink aarp, then you don't know "aarp." life reimagined gives you tools and support to get the career you'll love. find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities. as we gain on the mid-terms, which are two weeks away, everyone thinks they know who will take the senate. joining us congress woman debbie waserman schultz. good to have you on the show this morning. >> thank you so much for being with us. let's start with the house, obviously the republicans have been broadcasted for being too extreme in the house for several years now. are they going to lose control of the house? >> well, i think we are still really in a neck and neck situation in terms of whether or not we see pickups for democrats or pickup for republicans. this is an election where in every single competitive race it's coming down to the hour. in 2010 they let loose a whole lot of incumbents. there is not an incumbent today you would predict would be losing. >> is there a chance for democrats to peck up the house of representatives? >> i think the best thing that i could predict is we have an opportunity to pick up seats. beyond that i wouldn't make any other predictions. >> so why is that if the republicans have been so extreme him democrats and people in media have said why are republicans going to be rewarded with two more years of balancing the house of representatives? >> well, look at it another way, this is an election in which why are the republicans doing so badly? they're doing so badly if a second term mid-term with a democratic president where the democratic party loses on average 29 seats and you know there is even a question mark whether the republicans will pick up any seats at all. knack, they could still lose seats, because they are extreme. they've put suing the president for doing his job at the top of the agenda. they put investigating benghazi 13 times at the top of the agenda, democrats have put creating jobs, getting the economy turned around, fighting for the middle class, supporting a minimum wage. that's why the republicans are not trending with history and why there are still competitive races all over the country. the governments for the house and the senate. >> i read in the washington post republicans may peck up his story. kain is in the house of representatives. so if -- >> i would disagree with that. >> mica will ask you about the senate f. they, do i wonder if that means that americans want the republicans in the house to keep them doing what they have been doing. >> there will not be historic gains in the house. >> moving to the senate, because we've got so many different candidates, democrats who are giving at best wishy washy answers as it pertains to their support of president obama, you've said the president is not on the ballot. we will hold the senate. >> right. >> aren't democrats playing into exactly the negative antic the republican party has put on the silver platter for you all. instead of looking at the president's record and running on it. it fames three issues he's on the forefront of. i feel like you are all falling for the easiest trick in the book. >> no, not at all. look, we are running an environment where we've had 55 straight months of job growth. the longest sustained period of job growth in american history. americans have seen that under democratic leadership, we have moved forward. we pulled ourselves out tanks to his leadership out of the worst economic crisis since the great depression. we have a good economic story to tell. that's why our candidates are talking about the issues most important to their constituents, creating jobs, helping to make sure there are new challenges. they have thrown obstacles in their way. they're trying to make it about anything but their terrible record. >> under hess leadership. houb president obama's leadership. my 16-year-old daughter at dinner when i said what do you think president obama will be remembered for? she said, well, health care and saving the auto industry. she said it very, i mean, it came out. it wasn't that hard. i don't understand that. >> mica, the republicans are i trying. >> yeah. >> let me help you understand, what the republicans are trying to do is distract from their record of putting issues that aren't important to americans that that oppose at the top of the agenda. they want to make it anything but that terrible reported. democrats are focused on the issues when i travel the country are most important to americans. over the next 13 days, our voters will be asking temss win question, who has my back? who is on my side? >> so should voters know if they go out and vote for a democratic candidate, they will be voting for a continuation of barak obama's policies? >> voters should foe when they go out and vote for a democratic candidate, that they are voting for someone who has their back, who will focus on strengthening their economy. >> i'm asking about barak obama. this is a question a lot of people are asked. >> joe, barak obama was on the ballot if 2012 and 2008. the candidates on the ballot are democratic candidates for congress, the u.s. senate. >> this is a legitimate question, there is not a wrong answer and. >> no, no, it's a legitimate question. >> is. >> joe scombl if you vote for democrats, are you voting for a continuation of barak obama's policies? he said, yes, you are, do you agree with the president? >> if you vote for democrats, you are voting for candidates who are focused on creating jobs, getting the economy turned around and continuing to move us forward, creating more opportunities for people to succeed. if you vote for a republican, you are voting for someone embraced the tea party agenda, who would double down on obstruction and double down -- >> thank you is much, debbie waserman schultz. >> thank you. >> it's not hard. let say if i were running in 1986 and ronald reagan was the president and somebody asked me, is this a continuation, if i vote for you, will there be a continuation of ronald reagan's policy? i'd say, yep, you know, i don't agree with him 100% of the time. are you darn right, i am a reagan republican. if the republicans are as horrible and as extreme and vicious, this that, the other as we just heard. >> well, i think they r. i think we are playing into it. >> but then again, they're going to control the house of representatives. it looks like that will peck up the senate. so why can't you just say, not you, but why can't you just say, yes, barak obama has done a great job for six years. i look forward to being his partner another sex years. >> there are policies he has pushed forward, we want to continue. we want to make happen. we thank him for opening the door. we feed to increase the minimum wage. do you want me to make a list? >> it is so ridiculous. you have people that voted with the president 95, 96, 97, 98% of the time. >> who can't say his name. >> you send me up there, i will be a pain in his back side. it's a clown show. anyway, here in the u.s., mica, the propaganda, it's reaching teenage girls. >> yes, it has, and the recruitment. we found three now caught doing this. we'll have that story next. . zbrmpblthsz and only national is ranked highest in car rental customer satisfaction by j.d. power. 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>> superman. >> i love the incredible hullk. >> superman. >> oh. >> well, like the clothes pop off. >> i got it. >> okay. howard, i have a question for you. are you will? >> i'm here. i'm laughing at the byplay, i miss it. >> byplay. >> new england words. >> we just did this interview with debbie waserman schultz who makes us think these candidates running, udall, voted with him, they seemed to be, they are, they can't say his fame. that happened in the last interview. she could not say his name. i wonder what it is they are running from except for trumped up vitriol playing into their game that is really baseless. >> i think you are on to something here. first of all it is trumped up vitriol at election time is pretty effective. the republicans have done a good job, i don't approve of it. i think it's a mistake to run away from who you are in an election. i think allison lundgren-grimes is a great candidate. she has done very well. you can't embrace the president if kentucky. he lost by 25 or 30 points to mitt romney. but you can stand up for you who you are. you can say the president has done some things i like and some things i don't like. that's what i believe. that's what you got to do. if we don't win on next a week from tuesday, which i think we may still, i'm not giving up on that, if which don't, it will be because people didn't say who they were him you can't allow your race to be about president obama. you can't get out of that by saying, oh the president is not on the ballot t. president is on the ballot t. republicans have done a great job putting him on the ballot. you have to show backbone, that's what people want more than anything else? . howard, you are right, i want to say, republicans that run away from this person or that person, i say you give voters a chance to vote for a real democrat or a fake democrat, tail vote for the real democrat every time. it's the same thing. >> i hate to say that, harry truman said that first. >> did he really? this truman fellow is a part is guy. >> but it's -- >> i was saying it about republicans, though, i just love running against candidates away from bill clinton. because they're sitting easy targets. >> if 2006, republicans ran far away from problem and i do think there is a little reality to president obama's still simplging poll numbers. i think it's amusing to watch, how awkward they all get. i mean, not answering that they voted for him. that seems to me a real problem on so many levels that the national party candidates, i voted for him because i thought he was better tan mitt romney. they can't get that far out the date is amazing. >> it's politics 1001 say you voted for bush, he got the troop levels wrong, the deficit wrong, the spending wrong. you want to speak to the fire. but don't say oh, i pay have voted for him. >> well, they lost, it was a when fancy pelosi and the speaker of the house. there is proof it doesn't work. >> you have to accept, jean shaheen gets asked, do you approve the job the president is doing, yes or. i approve some things, not sought others, why not saying supporting the president means saveing the health care to x number of new hampshire voters. say what you believe and talk about the future and going forward. >> you are exactly right. you can make a democratic argument. i disagree with so many of his policies, did i vote with him? gentleman, against john mccain if i'm if famp. darn right, the economy is going off the cliff. we had whatever the talking point is. 50-plus weeks of economic growth seeing the car industry gain health care. do i agree with him on everything? no, i don't. >> send me back to walk. i'll make sure the president does this. to fix obamacare. say what you actually believe. not that complicated. >> but mica or john meacham, what a clown mark bagich looks like. what a clown mark udall when he says i'm going to be the guy again. mark udall seems like a nice guy. i think i like the guy. what a clownish thing to do when you voted for him 95, 96, 97% of the time. >> i think howard is right, you got ten days to go. you got numbers, you know, way below 50, right? so they're fighting for their lives and as you know, the political mindset is i'll do whatever i have to do and clean it up the day half-. >> you know what, though, they're not smart. this is day trading. if i'm a democrat and i'm sitting at home and i voted for mark udall, because i wanted him to forward barak obama's policies and he voted for him 97% of the time. now he says he's going back to washington from colorado to fight barak obama and be a pain if barak obama's side, just stay home. i say to both clowns. >> let's get to the fireworks and see if there was a fan in florida. this time, no drama. instead, they save their energy for the issues and personal attacks, including this exchange over who is more relatable to voters. look at this. >> i was not responsible for the global economic melt down any more than rick was responsible for the national recovery. if are you somebody who flies around in a private jet and you live on a mansion on the sea, it's hard to understand what the people are suffering from. >> i watch at parent lose the only family car. i went through that. charlie never went through that. he has never had to worry about money, he never had to worry about being laid off. >> charlie has done fine in life. >> you don't know me. you can't tell my story. i won't tell yours. i know you are worth $100 or $200 million. god bless you for that wealth. the way you got it is pretty unsavory. >> carley said i'm not going to tell you story. then he tells the story. >> well, sorry. we mentioned senator mark udall is trying to fight off a tough challenge from republican congressman cory gardner in colorado. hillary clinton fired out a crowd on behalf of the democratic incumbent. he has also been joined by for elizabeth warren. tomorrow, first lady michelle obama will join him on the trail a. pom shows gardner leading udall by a single point amodge likely voters. >> you know there are democrat and republican insiders that say they think at the end, i'm repeating what i hear, mark, that this goes democratic that the 2012 folds under roared for barak obama. they think like justice marshall said in kansas the muscle memory will have republicans pulling the lever for a republican in colorado, a lot of insiders think if this is close, udall wins it. >> if you call is within a point or two, the turn out the vote efforts will give him a chance to go over the top, but you can't be surprised if it entdz up being a blowout. you cannot be surprised in this examiner sides. in kansas, there is no democratic end game. so i think if the national sides and the kansas muscle memory kicks into play, they won't win that one. they have a chance, they have to do a difficult thing, which is use the obama methods in an unpresidential year. a new jersey school board upheld the suspensions of five high school football coaches whose team is facing shocking allegations of hazing and assault. sayreville board of education unanimously agreed suspend the head coach and foreassistants. the meeting saw position fat speeches on former and current students on both side of the issue. >> i'm telling you, the only reason i experienced success aside ofpy family is because of the coach in this community. >> for some kids in town, it's the only dream to run out in the entire community and play for the copy. it's ha ready to explain to those kids that may never happen for them. >> i never once had to be rescued and humiliated to be proud of my uniform, also as a united states army officer, if you are voting teamwork, when we had a weak member platooned in the field, he fell out, instead of kicking him, beating him, ridiculeing him, we picked up his weapons, his pack, his helmet and everything else. we carried it for him. >> wow, the there was also a heated exchange over whether the coaches received training about bullying. >> what kind of training was provided to the coaching staff? again, we are still undergoing an investigation process at this time. as soon as we have the conclusion of that investigation, we will be able share that. >> did you ever provide training? >> answer the question. >> yes or no, did you provide training? >> sir, i answered the question. >> yes or no? yes or no? >> excuse me, sir. >> yes or no? geeze, yes or no? >> this is public comment. excuse me, this is public comment. okay. i'm the board, this is public comment. we are eager to hear what you have to say. please don't become adversarial. >> i want a yes or no answer, has training been provided to the coaches, yes or no? >> sir, i have given you my answer, you may not appreciate it. i've given you my answer. >> there was no training, he was too embarrassed to say it. the suspensions of coach najar and his staff indefinite as the investigation continues, but they are with pay. you know i think it's a sort of a microcosm of the things we are seeing in this football world. these parents and kids will pay a price for a culture gone wild. >> the nfl has a lot of things that have happened since the nfl had its problems and it's blown over and the ratings will be great. they will make billions of dollars. everybody will end up watching the super bowl. at the end it will probably break record or two. but there is, i won't say quite an existential crisis tore football. football on levels if danger. i find it hard to believe that football as we know it is 20, 25 years from now will be anything compared to what it was. it's not now. not just in the deep south but across the mid-west, and the west coast. i mean. >> pop warner. >> it was friday nights. i mean, the whole towns across america, i mean, so much revolved around going to the high school games on friday nights. saturday games saturday afternoon, sitting with your tv set. >> that is a part of our culture, engrained in our culture. it's under attack by the very people that run the sport on all leve levels. >> a lot of the places don't leave the countries for a lot of things. between net flicks. >> and the amazon high school football game. >> high school football is one of those things. >> going down to the five and.com. >> costco's sales section. >> did you see this story? >> mark prior's campaign is responding to an article on the college thesis. it reads park prior desegregation and unwilling invasion. the authors obtained prior's college paper from fine 85 and the beacon's analysis reads in part this, for mark prior arced you it was an unwilling invasion that took a local problem out of line saying he was more or less pro segregation prior's campaign photoed he called the state official to ent great the quote/unquote embarrassing escapade. the campaign says he is speaking to the mindset of the people in arkansas who didn't want interference from washington. it is not the first time a college thesis paper has been injeblged into the arkansas senate race. recently they unearthed republican senior thesis at harvard that according to mollie defended the idea that the country must be led by a class of intellectually office holders whose ambitions sets them above other men. >> so i saw an interesting headline from bloomberg. >> mark halperin fell asleep. >> like in college. >> i never finished mine. >> the thesis didn't support segregation but it is one reason why he might lose. >> well, he's behind in the race. you have to figure out a way to come back. i don't think the way you wrote this college thesis is anyway. >> did stray his prom picture? >> that can do it. >> you feed a baseball scoreboard. >> how is that race looking? >> very tough for the democrats. president clinton has gone down and worked, he is registering people to vote exactically by hand. they are trying to get the african-american vote zbruty right now arkansas is trending republican? >> without a doubt. >> what about louisiana? >> it's been to a runoff. we're in a new world. we will see every national resource pour in. you don't know. i think she can save herself. that's against conventional wisdom. >> in georgia, if nun goes to a runoff. >> it will probably end republican. the thing about the louisiana runoff, it's on a saturday when there will be higher african-american turnout and a day of the sec championship, there will be lower republican turnoff. >> look at that. what about north carolina? >> if there is a national trend, the republicans will probably when it. but she's still in the race. she's not, she is ending strong. >> does scott walker hold on in wisconsin? 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>> yes, because he was shining and his journal imwas palpable coming off of his skin. that i think made him luminous. >> he adsed from every journalism pore. >> i have met longer tan life figures. i put him up with johnny apple, peter jennings. they were larger than life covering the story, they dominated. but they loved a great story and they cared about journalism. this guy ran a newspaper big splashy things. held powerful interests accountable. >> so we have been talking about. you talk in your piece, how bradlee some criticize him for being too chummy with jfk. we had an had annicole wallace. >> we had friendships and they were very close. i think that friendship was for the benefit of the country. ben grew up in a different time of our profession the echoes of the progressive era were still there when teddy roosevelt and the press worked hand if glove to pass his agenda and things got done. now we have a snapping turtle's press core, no access to the white house and nothing getting done. >> pare jordan, bring us back to what 1984. did he actually personally hire you, what was it like? what were you your memories working for ben bradlee? >> i was a young intern. he hired me. right after i wrote this story. it was a story about what he loved to say were talkers. something people would talk about. i found out faye dun away had a lawyer and a sister in maryland and walter momdale had a history professor at george washington. at the end of the interview, mondale, i said, by the way, is your brother going to win? and clarence said, for the way. so that's the story t.mondale people were really ticked. what is this kid doing? you didn't say she was covering politics. bradlee came over laughing, he said, great story, you know, they always underestimate the young ones. and he was just infectious to work with him. he loved his job. he used to say, i have the best job in the world. we felt lucky to be with them. >> john meacham, he bent history. he did. we worked in the paris embassy. the american embassy in france. he was with "newsweek." . i think in one of the great job interview leans ever he was talking to mrs. graham about whether he would come over to the post, he said he would give his left one to be the managing editor of the post and nothing was ever the same, really. joe, i'm wondering. >> it was such a fabulous partnership and it was said when mrs. graham was around ben walked out jauntier. his voice got a little rasp year i love that. >> bradlee was the john milton of profanity, poetry, what he could do with certain words, dazzled. mrs. graham liked that. is another bradlee possible? was there something particular about the execs of the business the culture of the business in the '60s and '70s? in there certainly the years that he presided at the post were better economically. it was a more muscular period for newspapers, certainly. but, yes, i think the capacity of one do i phammic passion fat journalist to turn around the newsroom, we see that happening now. in fact, a lot of people think my friend met marty barron is doing that at the post as we speak. so, of course. >> so let's talk, mary, act his legacy. okay, we could fill up all three hours by having people come and talk to you about the extrord fare things that ben bradlee did. there could be others that say you have two generations of students going to journal imschool. maybe learned the wrong thing from woodward and bernstein and led to the very snapping turtle press core that we have in washington, d.c. right now. is that fair? >> i don't know it's fair. i think it's a good thing right now to rnl what we were about. ben used to say that. he had every reason to be a snob. he was friends with jack kennedy and doing yoga with paul mccartney until he was 90 in east hampton but he was so down to earth. that was the message, worry not any better tan anybody else and just remember what we're all about. he loved the impact. he loved when his phone rang. i think it's a good time to remember ben had access and certainly few everybody. but when he walked into the newspaper in the day, i feel he really fell he was one of the people and the up in was all about doing the right ting and turning over something that added to life. >> i love it. jill abramson, it's great to see you. are you going to come back and visit us? 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>> oh. >> this is what it says it's the story of capitalism, fighting bare knuckle. billions done on golf courses, back of napkins, ricked bids, off loaded debts and marriages destroyed. this is a soap opera waiting to happen. >> it's real. >> one guy drugging someone, looks inside the contents of the brophy case. >> how did you start. >> i like to write about people. nobody has ever looked at this world. it's very secretive. we don't get to see, we know the big names. we know trump, etc. we sudden foe what's really going on. it's quite elemental it's like children in sa sand pit. they will fight with each other. they're going for it. and women are treated. you know, it's a massage nistic world. there was a world once called the rough rider room in new york. >> oh, gosh. they were big fans of teddy roosevelt? >> no. no. >> they were big fans of money and greed. >> what happens in the rough rider movie? >> they would do a deal at one table, work the room. by the end of lunch, they traded whatever they had done and finished at the end. >> wow, donald trump fired back saying you did a lousy job. >> yes, it's a boring book. you read it. cover to cover. >> they ripped off taxpayers. >> a huge amount. >> how do we go from real estate deals failed marriages? >> they are all about ego. she's like the ultimate trophy wife so if a building is expected, sorry, people are expendsable. one man exits suicide because he realized buildings mattered more to him tan people. >> oh my god. >> marriages are not important. >> is this a story that's repeated all over the city or is this an isolated example of success? >> this is the extreme. i chose this building because it is the most expensive. this real estate is the biggest industry in america. in new york, it's the most competitive knockout. so you see it played out at its extremes. >> the rule is the lir's ball. you can read it on our site. vicky ward. thank you for being back on our show. >> i like how she says it makes the guys in casinos look like milk toast. >> still ahead, they are here with their latest project. two stories of love, loss, loyalty. all about man's best friend. up next, a look at our judicial system. history next. . >> in this country our courts are the great levellers and our courts all men are created equal. i am for the idealist to believe firmly in the integrity of our courts, not our jury system. that's for the ideal to me. that is a living working reality. >> joining us now, the real life at attica finch. he is the author of "just mercy." the book is batesed on walter mcmillan. who is he? >> an african-american who grew up in monroeville, alabama the community which harper lee wrote "to kill a mocking bird." i got involved because his family insisted he was innocent. it was a surreal case. he told me highway had actually been put on death row for 15 months before the trial began. he was actually convicted despite being with 20 people who are 11 miles away at the time of the crime and one of these really outrageous cases, the judge whose name is robert e. lee key told me i shouldn't represent him. we found out one outrageous thing after another. it was all juxt opposed. and yet there is this disconnect. they were comfortablewalk watching this incident african-american man be convicted and sentenced to death for a while i crime he didn't commit. >> the evidence was contrived, many knew about this? >> there was a horrific murder. they couldn't solve the crime. i think there was so much pressure on police and prosecutors. what seemed to get him in trouble, he was having an affair with desmon women. there were all kind of witnesses who could confirm he didn't commit this crime. he coerced a man to testify against him. he coerced these interviews. >> water your story? how did you become a lawyer? >> i grew up in the a poor rural community in the south. i remember when lawyers came into our community to open up the schools. >> that never left me. within i was in law school, i went to the deep south, found people literally dialing for assistance on death row and seeing the system was so insensitive to their challenges, really motivated me. i went back, started working on these cases. i have been engaged by this work ever since. >> you see the worse itself side of our criminal justice system. you do you stay inspired? >> i feel i am a part of a legacy of people calgarying the country to do better when it comes to the poor, when it co himself to people of color. you can't live in milwaukee, alabama and not be a wvenls you can't say i am bloody but my head is bowed. we get the people to see triumph. i've seen wonderful things happen. some difficult things and that's what inspires me. i think we have trying to make a system that treats you better tan if you are poor or fnt. i find that gratifying. >> you had 14 honorarydoctorate degrees. >> i never been referred to as america's young nelson mandela. >> i think he's got you all here. the book is "just mercy." bryan stephenson. thank you for everything you do. still ahead, outed cia to you a tore outed valerie plame joins us next. 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>> no, retains her femininity and it's very realistic, dealing with how real intelligence is gathered. it's not necessarily with a gun. it's not necessarily in a sequined gown. but it's entertaining. >> for all of us that have been absorbing the way that things have been written and hollywood has been putting out, that's a different path. we're taking in carrie on "homeland." we're taking in a different perspective. this offers something fresh. >> the bond set the template, right, the bond girl. carrie in "homeland" is a little different but, again, it's not realistic. she is bipolar, which makes her very interesting, but not really a very good cia case officer. >> i guess it really depends how you look at it. >> such a good way to say it. >> notice she's actually an analyst on the show. which is very different as a former ops officer. we make that very clear. there's the analyst and there's the ops officers. >> tell us the title "burn." how it plays in without giving it away? >> the first one was "blow back." burned means an asset has just been outed. and so it feels through with the same villain who is -- boot who is inspired by a.q. khan who is in real life the pakistani black market nuclear entrepreneur. >> you're having fun, aren't you? >> way more fun than a few years ago. this is part of what i do. i do a lot other things. i'm working on nuclear proliferation. i do a lot of speaking. and i'm driving my 14-year-old kids around. >> you're dealing with joe. >> and that, my friend, is a full-time job. >> joe is so much fun. >> it is, it is. >> how's he doing? >> nuclear proliferation and 14-year-old kids driving around, speaking about bipolar. >> my kids are so underwhelmed by what mom does or dad. they're like, the game starts in ten minutes, can we get going? >> hear you on that. >> we talked yesterday about this is your real-life concern about the world we live in. nuclear weapons in the arms of a group like isis would be truly terri terrifying, right? >> it's catastrophic. they have blown through every sort of rules of war that may exist that are beheadings and so forth. if they acquire some sort of nuclear capability, which we know they are looking for, then they would not hesitate to use them. a dirty bomb is the easiest, but they can certainly purchase bombs, you know, nuclear capability on the black market. >> at the end the day, people talk about the isis threat and nobody thinks they're going to invade paris tomorrow but if they hold enough property, if they get enough money, if they buy -- i mean, you put it perfectly. if they had an opportunity to buy a bomb, then buy a bomb. if they had an opportunity to plant the bomb in times square, then plant the bomb in times square. that's not fearmongering. that really is a reality we have to face every day. >> right, wand do we -- >> the big question is how do we proceed? 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which is the question of somebody who realizes we're in totally uncharted water. >> we asked ourselves a lot questions, how could all of this be true, how could somebody with all that much to lose put it at risk every day. >> bradlee, woodward and bernstein had help but they were the team that nailed the nixon cover-up and ben was in charge. >> he had daring. he had -- let's call it by its proper name, he had [ bleep ] he was willing to be dangerous. >> he wanted to be first with a story but he never wanted to be wrong. >> the legendary editor and his young tiger s became rich and famous and on the big screen in "all the president's men." a fourth member of the team was katharine graham, owner and publisher of "the washington post." kay, as she was known, stood fast beside ben, her friend and editor, when nixon's allies were threatening to take down the newspaper. >> hold it. we're about to accuse holderman who only happens to be the second most important man of this country, of conducting an criminal conspiracy from inside the white house. it would be nice if we were write. >> bradlee and his third wife, shorthand for power couple. known for his charm, his star power and his profanity. >> jess swhaushus, what kind a [ bleep ] story is this? >> the epitome of newsman charisma. even when he walked across the newsroom, he had this effect that just made you want to do better. >> bradlee stumbled after watergate, publishing a prize-winning series on an 8-year-old heroin addict. but it was a hoax. he recovered and remained a man with pedigree and that salty vocabulary. a dashing journalist right off the front page. >> it's my kind of hard, i like that. if you're right, it isn't hard. >> fearless and yet sentimental. >> wow, and joining us now from washington, contributing writer for "the new york times" magazine, jeff himleman. jeff spent four years working closely with ben bradlee while he was writing his biography, "yours in truth." a personal portrait of ben bradlee. a man in search of the truth really, jeff. >> absolutely. thank you for having me here. it's a sad day today for all the obvious reasons. >> you know, jeff it's so interesting the question that was asked, that woodward said, that bob woodward said after finding out that nixon was involved in the conspiracy, what the hell do we do now, would be a question that any editor might ask. what made that question so pressing for bradlee is ben came from the old school. he was really good friends with the president. he was really close to jfk. he palled around with presidents. still reported on them. but there was a different code. watergate changed all of that. for ben bradlee to go from being the insider's insider to the guy who blew up the white house had to be remarkably -- >> i think obviously at a time like this you tend to think about what someone's legacy is. i think one of the things that can be safely said is he really did walk that track. he took the reins in 1968. one of the first things he did was try to separate it from the establishment. there was a point, the mayor of the city of washington, no one wanted "the post" to leak it and they decided to leak it because they decided we're not the mouth piece for the government. it was a stance that ben really took from the very beginning of his time at the "post." i think ben really ushered in that new era. watergate put a stamp on that in a way nobody will ever forget. >> howard dean, chime in on how you see ben bradlee's legacy. >> i would love to know -- this guy was the giant in my lifetime and they won't make anybody like that. when you interviewed him, as you did for four years, what did he think of the new media? what did he think of the new standard, get it fast, not so much get it right? >> you know, it's interesting. i think ben would have been the first to say that he wouldn't -- he didn't want to really say much about new media. he would always say he didn't understand blogs and things like that were never something that interested him. what struck me when ben would go to these panels and people would ask that very question, what he would always say is he never know what form it was going to take but he was optimistic this pursuit of the truth and this need for people to know the truth, to be able to find the truth, that somebody is out there digging. i think he always had faith somebody would carry on that work, whatever form it took. i think he was right. he's not comfortable with computers and things like that. that optimism was what always struck me about him. >> it's called gut instinct. there's a personal side to this. they had, ben and sally, one of our first book parties at their home, they were so kind to do that. just think one other side to this is their personal story and if you check out the c-span interview that sally quinn did on ben's final days and how they shared them together, it is extremely beautiful. the way she helped him leave this world. >> i remember you calling me after seeing it in tears and your comment -- >> beautiful. at the most important part of his life. >> they loved each other so much. we've got a ton of politics. a ton of new polls. fascinating. i just have to ask you, though, nicole wallace obviously somebody that was at the center of things at the white house. some people might ask what's worse, a system where the press palled around with presidents like ben bradlee palled around with jfk or a situation we have now where the white house hates the press so much. there's absolutely no access. so at the end of the day, you have journalism -- >> i think everyone agrees what we have now is far worst. i went to journalism school because of ben bradlee. the person that everyone wanted to grow up and work for was ben bradlee. so he sort of birthed at least two generations of aspiring truth seekers is part of his legacy that he may not have even known about in life. chris matthews on his show talks a lot about those days. it wasn't a washington where reporters pulled their punches but it was a wlaug after they were done punching each other, they had a beer or cigar or drink. >> let's get to politics now. a lot of fireworks last night. the candidates for u.s. senate seat in new hampshire both came out swinging in their first televised debate. polls show democratic senator shaheen and brown running neck and neck in a battle. >> you had two chances to run for the u.s. senate in massachusetts in 2013 and 2014. why not take those? >> because i live here. i live here. i was born at the ports smith naval shipyard. my mom was a waitress at hampton beach. i'm running because i care about new hampshire and care about restoring america. >> when he lost his race, he didn't move to new hampshire and say, i want to get involved in the state. he thought about running for senate again in massachusetts. then governor in massachusetts. then he went out to iowa and said he was thinking about running for president. i don't think new hampshire's a consolation prize. i think we need a senator -- we need a senator who's going to put new hampshire first. >> imagine you are at home wearing your new hampshire citizen hat and you get a call from a pollster asking the following question. do you approve of the job president obama is doing? they'll be a chance to follow up, but this is a yes or no answer. do you approve, yes or not? >> in some ways, approve, in some ways i don't approve. so like most questions that we deal with as policymaker, there aren't simple answers, yes or no. >> democratic senator elizabeth warren will head to new hampshire. the latest poll shows senator shaheen up by three points within the margin of error. >> this race is so tight. it really is. howard dean, it would go either way. you just wonder though whether states like colorado and new hampshire that usually break democrat are going to break democrat this time and states like kansas and georgia that usually break republican are going to break republican. >> yes, there are a lot of really close races. this i think is not one of them. i know watt polls say. at the end of the day, since i come from the sister state of new hampshire and in the sister state of new hampshire now, this is a strong feeling in places like northern new england, carpetbagging is not okay. i don't care if scott brown's mother worked for the ports smith whatever it was dairy queen or whatever, waitress -- >> why is the race so close? from 30,000 feet, you would think this would be a bigger problem. why is this race so close against an established figure like jeanne shaheen? >> because of president obama's approval rating. republicans have done a terrific job in this way. they've nationalized the election, first of all, which is a good thing in the president. more importantly, they've made the issue the president. they could avoid all this controversial stuff they've got be in trouble with in the past, you know, too much -- abandoning abortion entirely, being anti-immigrant, this crazy stuff about ebola coming across the border from mexico, most of that stuff has been drowned out. the reason i think this one isn't is when you go into the booth, there's a, as you know well, there's a sort of a little switch that goes on, and those who really are undecided, something flips them over. i think the something is going to be that scott brown chose to run here after he looked at other races and decided not to. >> one other piece of video, christie, potential 2016 candidate. >> i'm tired of hearing about the minimum wage. i really am. i don't think there's a mother or father sitting around a kitchen table tonight in america who are saying, you know, honey, if our son or daughter could just make a higher minimum wage, all our dreams would be realized. is that what parents aspire to for their children? they aspire to a greater growing america where their children have the ability to be a much greater success. >> what do you think of that, mika? >> i would counter with elizabeth warren said earlier this week which is when her mother had to step in after her father became ill and get a job that she went to go work at sears and had a minimum wage job that paid for the family and got them through hard times. i would rethink that in a big way. >> i think to christie's point, he gave a speech about the republican response and the most articulate one i ever heard, he talks about opportunity, inequality. i think we should be cautious not to take his comments about minimum wage away from his larger message about opportunity and equality. >> did you think those comments were taken out context? >> his larger point about minimum wage, which he's made many times in battleground states but obviously he should be more careful before the election -- >> cringing a little bit as a strategist? >> i have heard him making these comments. obviously, minimum wage doesn't support a family like it used to but he has a larger message that is very powerful. about opportunity inequality. how aspiring to a minimum wage job isn't the way to lift a family out of poverty. >> howard dean. >> as you know, nicole, as you all know, the sentence that's coming out of this is i'm tired of hearing about the minimum wage. >> it's not a good one. >> this is the kind of stuff i used to do on the campaign trail. you can't do it. your press people have got to beat into you that you don't say sentences like that. >> there are also some issues that republicans just have to get smarter on on the campaign trail. i could sit and have the economic debate about the minimum wage. >> sure, you could win the debate. >> i've voted against raising the minimum wage when i was in congress. this is an issue republicans need to wake up to. it's fallen far behind where it should be. if you believe in the minimum wage, and most americans believe in the minimum wage, yes, a republican can go on the campaign trouble and say minimum wage is about taking the money out of the pockets of some poor people and giving it to other poor people. republicans have lost the debate by that point. they've lost the debate by that point. you're never going to be able to give people a living wage on minimum wage by jumping up to $15 an hour. but republicans need to get smart on this issue before the 2016 race because right now it needs to be raised. it needs to be indexed. yes, i can have the philosophical debate about how states should decide what the minimum wage should be. in a perfect world, that would be fine. if we want to go to universities for that, if we want to win presidential elections, we need to understand that there are single moms out there right now that aren't sick and tired of discussions about minimum wage. there are people struggling that are praying the minimum wage goes up just a little bit. >> i think chris christie is one of them, is my only paint. >> why did he say that to the chamber of commerce? >> if he had said that in, let's say, a tough part of newark, new jersey, i would respect him a lot more than if he had said that at the united states chamber of commerce, a very safe, callous sounding thing to say. >> listen, we'll have to wait and see how he responds to this. i'm heard him say things more similar to what you said about the minimum wage. his only point i believe his opportunity inequality is as great of a peril to a family who depends on the minimum wage. >> i know you understand this. other republicans, though, need to understand the gravest respect to the republican party being a permanent reality of the working class. we sound callas. we have not only the working class, we have lost the middle class, and we lose it by sounding overly ideological. >> how a simple piece of software, apple's sirri, has made a dramatic change in one young boy's life. plus, what possessed him to say it. but first -- >> hey, don't say it, be good. >> different ways i could segue to this guy. >> bill karin. wonderful meteorologist. >> just keeping his hands to himself. good morning, everyone. if you're at the airports in the northeast, it's not a pretty start to your early wednesday morning. we're watching two-hour delays right now at la guardia. two-hour delays at philadelphia. this is all associated with heavy rain and some winds with our nor'easter forming. one of our first nor'easters of our quote/unquote fall into winter season. this is all rain. the other thing we have to deal with, this band of rain comes down from new york. the band of rain sneaks right down i-95. so even in d.c. and baltimore, it's not exactly easy pretty morning to be driving around. as far as the heaviest rains go, we've been watching that. here's new york city and just south of new york city, a lot of lightning showing up too. areas right along the northern new jersey coast may have to deal with flooding problems. as far as how much rain, later today, into tonight, all the heavy rain shifts up into bangor, maine, portland, that's where the worst of the nor'easter will be felt. everyone today is cloudy and cool and wet. even into tomorrow, as the rain shifts north there are still showers and minor problems in new york and philadelphia but as far as d.c. goes, today is the worst of your two days. also in the northwest, you're getting drenched yourself. heaviest rain event of our wet season, 4 to 7 inches rain in the mountains, about 1 to 2 inches in seattle and portland. we leave you with a shot. it was beautiful last night weatherwise in kansas city. game was ugly if you're a royals fan. tonight, the weather looks fine. there could be showers early but it should clear out by game time. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. 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"the new york times," american jeffrey fowle has been released by north korea after six months of captivity. he was arrested for leaving a bible in a hotel. the obama administration says they're working on the release of two other americans detained in north korea. we get this. saudi arabia's top muslim cleric said twitter is, quote, evil and nothing more than a source of lies. okay, so listen, we agree, right? everybody, we good with that on some base, about twitter being evil and a source of wbr-id "wbr88750" lies? was for me yesterday. on his blog cast he added, quote, if it was used correctly, it would be a lot of benefit. >> i agree with this. i'm going to this guy's mosque, what day, friday? >> his comments divided many users across the country. >> all right, the "new york daily news". >> this is all your fault,ca-co drop in profits. coke, the world's largest beverage company, said sales continue to soften in the u.s. mcdonald's profits were down for a fourth consecutive quarter. the world's largest restaurant chain faces increased pressure from competitors as well as higher operating costs. they are certainly -- both companies are making an effort to offer a lot of options in terms of healthy foods and drinks without as much sugar in them. i wonder if that's a very tough transition for them. >> you know, it has to be. but it also -- it is, i think they're going through a difficult time. 30% drop is pretty dramatic. they are trying to provide healthier options. >> there's a sea change. it's coming. >> you hope that people want to go to it. we have an update on aya cooper and her boyfriend mike jones. who are they? they're speaking out about -- >> i think this phrase is going to be, what was that, don't tase me, bro? we have don't tase me, bro, and don't touch my girlfriend. i love the president's response. wasn't planning on it. >> that was the awkward moment caught on camera. while early vote, the two happened to find themselves voting alongside president obama. it was then mike would decided to have some fun. here's a portion of their exchange. >> don't touch my girlfriend. >> i wasn't planning on it. >> i am sorry, please excuse him. >> there's an example of a -- this is embarrassing. just embarrassing. >> just for no reason whatsoever. >> i knew he was going to say something smart. >> now you'll be going back home and talking to your friends, trying -- ways his name? >> mike. >> i can't believe mike, he is such a fool. >> he really is. >> i was just mortified. >> he kind of is a fool. >> last night, they spoke to chris hays about what they were thinking as it all unfolded. >> why? why? why would you do this? i was just nervous, super nervous. i couldn't believe that he said that. another part of me was just like, shut up, they're going to tackle you, shut up. >> it was just an experience i wanted to give her. i knew she was just nervous going up there in the booth next to him, that she probably wasn't even paying attention to her ballot. but, i mean, it wasn't anything that the president did. i wanted to make that clear. it was just something that i always do to her and she knows very well it's my personality. i am very spontaneous. and i will just put her out in the front street of anyone in order to make her smile and laugh just like she did. >> i think that's cute. >> she should marry him. do you think they'll get married? >> i don't know, they should now. >> president obama can go to their wedding. >> he can officiate. would you think, though -- like he would say to his girlfriend, don't bother the president while he's voting. >> the president handled it so well. the president's response was perfect. that's what made it. other politicians would stiffen up. >> the great thing is, i like getting to meet mike because mike had a great personality. >> i can tell. still ahead, wall street has one of its best days of the year but will investors be able to repeat that performance today? business before the bell is still ahead. what else is ahead? >> a love letter to a machine. >> what? >> yes, i'm going to talk lovingly to my iphone. the story of how one 13-year-old boy and his life-changing relationship with apple's siri.y it might get a lot of parent's attention. that's next when "morning joe" returns. turn the trips you have to take, into one you'll never forget. earn points for every flight and every hotel. expedia plus rewards. ♪ [ male announcer ] you're watching one of the biggest financial services companies in the country at work. hey. thanks for coming over. hey. 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>> she doesn't. here's why. i mean, if you have a child who is autistic, one of the main problems is communication. and my son talks like he has marbles in his mouth. so, you know, people talk about siri being not very great at voice recognition, but for some of us, that's a feature, not a bug. because he has to enunciate in order to get what he wants. >> she'll say, i'm sorry, i don't understand what you're saying. >> yes, i don't understand. which may make him giggle. but also he has to go and do something about it. he has to be very, very clear. which i always found out, you know, in the midst of doing this, i was trying to get him to -- i was trying to get the machine to call him gus instead of calling me judith because it's my phone. i said, call him gus. she goes, you want me to call you goddess? like, yeah, i do, actactually, maybe that's not ideal right now it that's one of the wonderful things about it. >> ron, did you see the piece? >> i teared up reading it and spent most of the weekend passing it around, it was wonderful. i have a aspy son. one of the things that struck me is what are the attributes that siri has that these kids need and maybe i need as a parent. two struck me. one is unlimited patience. the other is no judgment. do you agree with those two? did you see any others in siri? >> i couldn't agree more. because, you know, kids who have communications problems, they are very nervous about -- there's a lot of anxiety in checking out their -- their back and forth with people. what does siri do? siri doesn't judge you. siri also enforces etiquette, which i think is very important. when my son is a little brusque, when he says something that isn't terribly nice, she'll say now now. or she'll say, well, that may be your opinion. but she will not say, oh, that's terrible. nothing like that. so it's -- >> we could learn from siri. parenting advice. oh, my god. >> how does that give you any direction when you look at how gus responds to that type of now now reaction when it comes to his annunciation or an agitation issue he may get if he's not getting his way with siri, if he's not getting his way with you as his mom? >> i'm very fortunate that he's not somebody who blows up, you know, i'm the one whose head explodes having to talk about some of the things i have to talk about with gus. but i do -- in a strange way, it makes me a little bit more patient too. more patient with him. more patient with listening through. when i don't understand what he's saying, i'm like, i don't -- she's like, gus, say that one more type, just like you'd say it to siri. and he will do it. i think that siri is -- siri being more patient than mommy is definitely rubbing off on mommy too in a strange way. >> fascinating, you have a son with asberger's who is now in his 20s, doing really well and thriving. i always have friends or acquaintances whose children just diagnosed and they always ask for advice. i say, i actually say, technology is the devil. the video games. you know, dvds. get him away from the computer. get him away from the ipad. because they sink into this world. this is an extraordinary example of how technology, smart phone, how all of these things that sometimes can suck a kid into -- video games, are instance. an easy copout for a -- >> sometimes siri can have that -- i can be using siri in that way too. if i don't want to discuss turtles for one more second or weather formations, i have somebody would will. >> but this does show the promise, especially for children withes an purchasi with s asberger's, how technolo can make a big difference. >> did you ban technology, how did you do it? >> i got him, forced him to actually go and be a bus boy at a local restaurant at the age of 15. and, you know, i would actually -- i would -- would show up at school, go, hey, andrew, how you doing? he'd be like, i like bagpipes. and, you know -- >> you didn't change his -- >> and then we would -- we would actually talk through it. and the most extraordinary thing, in a way, this is so hopeful, is because andrew has learned through the years. you know, there's a very sad time in middle school where there weren't kids showing up at birthday parties. and it was -- i don't think anything's hurt any more than that. and then in high school, he started learning, the kids started showing up. now he's got this will full life. and so much of it is learned. it's just learned. you know, the things that -- >> i would even argue that pain is useful because so many people who have autistic kid, kids, as my son is at this point, he's kind of oblivious. he doesn't really know -- he believes he has a lot friends and that's wonderful. he doesn't really know entirely what friendship is. but didn't you find that to be true? when your son had some pain, it helped him grow? >> it does, but at the same time, it helps him grow if there are ways for him to learn and become more socialized. i read something -- i talked about it a good bit with parents. who -- a math teacher at college said that she finally, after being hurt for year, learned to stand on the corner, in the corner during dances and just look at human behavior and she learned, as she said, human behavior. this is so exciting what we're learning with new studies is children can learn. and the patience you're talking about that siri provides and that communication skill that he gets from it and the nonjudgmentalness of it all is i think an important step forward. and the patience. and the patience. oh, my god . and the patience. i think we can all three say amen to that. >> do you like bagpipes now? >> and purple. >> no, i walk around going, i like purple. >> we'll be right back. nineteen years ago, we thought, "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our snapfix app. visit angieslist.com today. ♪ [ male announcer ] when you see everyone in america almost every day, you notice a few things. like the fact that you're pretty attached to these. ok, really attached. and that's alright. because we'll text you when your package is on the way. we're even expanding sunday package delivery. yes, sunday. at the u.s. postal service, our priority is...was... and always will be...you. ...the getaway vehicle! our priority is...was... for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this. go ahead. >> what? 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oregon? you're from michigan now. >> i'm going to stick with the big ten. you know the big ten has really surprised a lot of folks. i got to say, go ohio state. >> verge bernero, lansing, michigan food togood to have you with us torrentnight. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" begins with al sharpton. thanks for tuning in. we start with breaking news for the hunt of the woman seen in this video and up to six other terror cell members who french police say could be at large. this security video shows the widow of the gunman who attacked the jewish grocery in paris last week. the video is from an airport in istanbul, turkey. authorities say she had traveled from france to spain before flying to turkey on january 2nd. taking a domestic flight to the syrian border. and then slipping into isis-controlled territory in syria on january 8th. the same day her husband shot a police officer in the south of paris. now the search is on for her. plus, according to "ap," up to six others linked to the terror cell including a man who was seen driving her car. also today, a new video has emerged showing the grocery store gunman pledging allegiance to isis. all of this comes as a group claiming to be aligned with isis hacked into the twitter and youtube accounts for u.s. central command. posting pro-isis messages. the pentagon says it was not a security threat and that no classified information was revealed. but a day after over a million people rallied in paris, that city is still on edge and police are flooding the streets looking for other potential terrorists. joining me now is marcadis, a former department of defense counterterrorism analyst, and evan coleman, nbc news terrorism analyst. thank you, both for being here. >> thanks reverend. >> with the widow escaping into syria, are authorities worried that others in the cell will do the same? >> right, oh, splut ly absolutely. the authorities french authorities named, essentially they're unnamed. we don't know who they are, what their capabilities or who they they are. at this point, when you notice a press release from the french authorities that doesn't provide detail, that speaks to something because we assume that the french don't necessarily know who they're looking for, of course. and it's maybe more of a signal to other law enforcement organizations throughout the world that hey, these people are alive and well as far as we know. we don't know if they're operatives, we don't know if they're in a support network type role. and it's quite possible at this point they could be trying to flee the country. >> evan, we don't know who they are, but do we have a sense of how large this paris terror cell could be? >> no, but even before the announcement by french authorities we already had an idea there was some support infrastructure, a support cell that must have existed because, of course, you have the video of mr. coulibaly. the video has been edited. it shows the end of the hostage siege. someone edited this video of mr. coulibaly was already dead. somebody uploaded the video. the video was in french. it was not issued by isis but somebody else who speaks french. thus, there's a very strong conclusion there that there's somebody left in france who had access to this video who is in contact with mr. coulibaly and who decided to upload this and let's not forget mr. coulibaly in the video talks about how he provided the kouachi brothers several thousand euros to carry out their plan. where did he get that money from? did he have that money on his own or get it from somebody else? >> was he a conduit for something? >> right. >> jim, the widow who is now in syria, hayat boumeddiene, has spoken many times we've come to learn to the widow of one of the magazine attackers. one report says "there was constant and sustained communication, according to paris' "chief prosecutor who said the two women spoke on the phone more than 500 times last year." does this speak to how tight-knit and serious this cell might have been? >> yes, reverend al that's a great point. what it speaks to is operational security and terrorist cells whether they're just a few people in paris or whether it's a large international organization like al qaeda in the arabian peninsula or al qaeda core in afghanistan, pakistan puts a high premium on the idea of maintaining operational security. communications are tightly controlled between cell members. in this case the two wives could have been used as surrogates so there was no direct telephonic or e-mail link between members of the actual cell that law enforcement authorities could have picked up on. and especially because the members of this cell had criminal records, and had done time in jail. so they would have -- that would have been highly suspicious. and so by using the wives who had no criminal records, so as far as we know you know details pending, that speaks to a level of remaining anonymous. to law enforcement authorities. >> evan, two attackers appear linked to isis while the other two cited al qaeda in yemen. here's what a senior cia veteran said. "this is a distinction without a difference. the super bosses may be wrapped up in these ideological fights but the followers really are not." how much does that distinction matter? >> no offense to the person who said that. this is a person who hasn't been reading isis propaganda. this message about the fight between isis and al qaeda or aqap is not an issue that is simply percolating between the top leaders of the organization. this is something that's reaching even english-speaking members of this group. the last english-speaking mass inging magazine put out by isis there were ten pages of the magazine dedicated to saying terribly nasty things about al qaeda, aqap, and all of their senior leaders. there's no doubt that almost everyone in these organizations understand they don't like each other. anyone that doesn't understand that distinction is not paying attention to any of their propaganda whether it's in arabic arabic, whether it's in english, whether it's in french. that point is absolutely clear. >> jim, let me go to this hacking of two social media sites, u.s. central command. even if no classified information was revealed could this still inspire other attack attackers to take action? >> oh well sure. any time anybody does something as significant as hacking into a large and well-known u.s. military command, you never know who's going to be inspired by it. but i think the important point that we really have to draw from it is the individuals who claimed to do it claimed to have, be linked to isis. at this point, this is sort of the other side of the koibcoin that evan was just talking about. we don't know who these guys are. we don't know exactly what their highest end cape nltabilityies are. so yes, they had initial success. by claiming an affiliation to a larger terrorist organization, which to be clear, they may not have at all, but by claiming that affiliation, that allows them to pick up more recruit ss, picked up by media. we're talking about them now. that provides the opportunity for more money and more prestige down the line. >> i want to turn to violence in nigeria, evan. the terror group boko haram massacred 2,000 people in a village last week. and there are reports that they're now using 10-year-old girls as suicide bombers. "reuters" reports, "two suspected child suicide bombers blew themselves up in a market in northeast nigeria on sunday. the second apparent attack in two days using young girls strapped with explosives." >> yeah -- >> this is horrific. we're not hearing a lot about this. this unbelievable. >> it's a level of barbism that even isis as extreme as they are, it's difficult to imagine isis using child suicide bombers. unfortunately part of the problem is because there's been so much focus on what's happening in france, for good reason unfortunately we're losing sight of other things going on. from isis' perspective, if you ask them wloshtshether or not using a 10-year-old as a suicide bomber is okay. they don't subscribe to any ideology other than death. >> jim, where's the world global outreach here? 2,000 people. little girls strapped and used as suicide bombers that don't even know they have the bomb on. absolutely the world has to be outraged with france but shouldn't the world be just as outrage ed outraged at what's going on in nigeria? >> rerndthis is the same group that kidnapped small schoolgirls and still holding them as far as we know. this is an unbelievable level of barbarism. whether it's boko haram, isis aqap whether it's al qaeda. what we don't do in this country is have a serious conversation about how we're going to stop radical asian in countries that have ungoverned territories. how do we do things like promote education, promote democratic institutions promote viable political parties? yes, we have a hard security piece. but in the long term we also need to sustain our fight against terrorism in a lot of these soft power tools that we can use to address the problem at the core. because if we're just usinge inging bombs and guns and there's a time and place for that because there are evil people in the world who deserve to be met with that kind of force we also have to address the root causes and no matter where in the world we're talking about, that's what we should do and when we're outraged about all of these things, that's where we have to begin to address a lot of our energy. >> i'm going to have to leave there. that is clearly what i'm saying. we cannot have selective outrage. what has happened in france is despicable. and what is happening in nigeria is equally despicable. 2,000 lives, little girls. whether it is in france whether it is in nigeria, the world must respond with the same passion. had we done that with bin laden when he first struck in kenya, maybe he wouldn't have got to the united states. we should stop terrorism and savagery wherever we find it oers it might find us. jim arkadis and evan kohlmann, thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks, reverand al. president obama's fight for fairness is having a rather odd effect on republicans. and a story we told you about, two new mexico police shooting and killing a homeless man. >> do it. >> get on the ground. get on the ground now! get on the ground. get on the ground. >> tonight, the officers are facing charges. and george zimmerman arrested in florida. we'll tell you why. and could he see jail time? please stay with us. yep. this is the one. can we go for a test drive? oh sure, i'll be right back. thanks. leather, running boards... carmax quality certified low, no-haggle price 5-day money back guarantee ... that's great... and, a roof rack for the kayak! we don't have a kayak. we could get a kayak. ready to roll? yes, we are. with more than 35,000 cars nationwide carmax has the perfect car for...everybody. carmax. start here. 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"both parties agree economic mobility will be a defining theme of 2016 campaign." the polls highlights marco rubio and rand paul trying to join the conversation on fairness. jeb bush's new pac is talking about the difficulty of achieving the american dream and focusing on middle class wage stagnation. and shared prosperity. and even mr. 47%, himself, mitt romney says if he runs again, one of the issues he'd like to address is poverty. now, i applaud this idea but the question is do you really believe it? after decades of pushing tax cuts for the rich and trickle-down economics, will anyone take this seriously? joining me now are jared bernstein and joan walsh. thank you both for being here. >> thanks rev. >> thank you, rev. >> joan, mitt romney wants to talk about poverty and jeb bush is fighting for fairness? are we in the twilight zone? >> we've got these two plutocrats who now want to fight each other for who's going it be the president of the 1%, talking about fairness. i think it's really unfair rev, because what you're see in the republican party now is a recognition that yes, poverty is a problem, income equality is a problem, stagnating wages is a problem. they've blocked everything this president has tried to do. >> everything. >> they will not give him an increase in the minimum wage they passed a smaller stimulus than he wanted. they will not give him the infrastructure spending he wants. they will not give him an immigration bill. immigration reform is really important to wages because when we legalize people or give them some legal foot hold in this country, they have a little bit more of standing to push back when they're being treated unfairly. and so they've fought his appointments to the national relations labor board. they've fought everything they can do something about stagnating wages. >> when you raise these examples, jared, let me ask you, what policies can president obama work on to narrow the income gap? specific policies. >> interestingly, he's done a fair bit already even without congress. deferred deportations fits right into joan's point about immigration. he's raised the minimum wage for federal contractors. there are at least three things that would be on the agenda that have had some little bit of bipartisan agreement. one is infrastructure investment. the other, i'm blocking on the other one right now. i'll get to it in a second. but the point is that the president has some nominal support for these ideas, but he hasn't had the kind of support that congress really needs to get behind him. and that's what's been missing. >> joan the -- i mentioned the "washington post" piece that said republicans won't engage on economic mobility. it quoted a republican strategist. republican strategist who said "you talk to any pollster on the democratic side or the republican side they're in complete agreement on the idea that there has to be an economic populous message." "then it comes down to are there credible solutions and is there a credible candidate? will we be credible solutions from the gop? who do democrats need to do to stay ahead on this issue, joan? >> i think the democrats can stay ahead rather easily reverend al. the republican party, i want to give paul ryean credit to pay attention to the issues. their solutions are warmed over tax credits, warmed over empowerment zones. these ideas going back to jack kemp that were tried, you know, and maybe tried with very good intentions but really didn't move the needle on unemployment and particularly inner city unemployment. so, you know i'm not saying the democrats have been perfect on this issue, but they are definitely putting a lot more meat on the bones of fairness strategy and a raise the wages strategy. >> let me ask -- go ahead jared. >> first of all, let any just say that the ideas that have had some suggestion of some bipartisan movement, i mentioned infrastructure, there's also an increase in the eitc for childless workers. that's a tax credit for low-income workers. and some sounds that universal pre-k, quality pre-k for kids could be on the agenda. we've not seen real movement toward them. look, i want to echo something you guys is been talking about. it's one thing to say i feel your pain, vis-a-vis unequalinequality and mobility. remember, that was something mitt romney said he didn't want to talk about. now we have jeb bush saying i'm happy to talk about it. it's a very different thing to articulate the policy agenda. and so far all that i've heard from these republicans is our agenda is growth it's more growth, how do we get that growth? we try to make life more advantageous for those at the top. so it's really just a change in the rhetoric at least that's what it sounds like to me with trickle down at the end of the road. >> that's the problem because you can't say i feel your pain when i don't feel that you have the capacity to feel my pain. the "washington post" profiled a recent focus group in denver that was asked about potential 2016 candidates. they had mixed opinions on jeb bush and hillary clinton. but people on both sides of the aisle had great things to say about elizabeth warren. they called her sincere, knowledgeable, capable, and she was a popular choice as a next door neighbor. she's best known, of course for talking about fairness. listen to this. >> we believe that no one should work full time and still live in poverty. that means raising the minimum wage and we will fight for it. the stock market and gdp continue to go up while families across this country are getting squeezed harder and harder. so the way i see this is we can whine about it we can whimper about it or we can fight back. i'm fighting back. i'm ready to fight back. are you ready to fight back on this? >> why is it so appealing, joan? >> you know i saw her speak last week rev at the raising wages conference that the afl-cio put on. she's gotten so much better. i'm not critiqueing her like a theater critic but her delivery changed. i saw her bring people in the crowd to tears when she talked about her mother. after her father lost her job, her mother puts on her best dress and high heels is crying and goes to sears and gets minimum wage job which at that point was high enough to support a family. >> let me ask you, then, if she's gotten better and that effective, is there no scenario where she would run? i mean does no really mean no? give me a scenario that you think would possibly make her enter the race. >> i really don't think she would run if hillary clinton rin runs. she's trying to push hillary clinton toward a more progressive stance. i really believe, we talked about this before, i belief she want wants to be a powerhouse in the senate and has the ted kennedy seat, a position of power in the community. i don't see her wanting to but if clinton didn't run, all bets are off. >> i mean, look senator warren is really steering the debate in directions that it needs to go. and that's a tremendous contribution so far. i'll also say this, what i heard in the comments you just played was basically getting on offense, and a lot of us are really just tired of playing defense. tired of jutst sitting here and explaining why trickle-down supply side tax cuts don't work. what she's suggesting we do now is come up with a set of ideas that actively try to reconnect, that create the policy agenda that can reconnect middle class prosperity to overall economic growth. now, as i said the other side says, well it's just all about overall economic growth. that's obviously necessary but it's not sufficient. what i hear liz warren saying is let's create that policy architecture, that connective tissue that will raise the middle class. >> joan walsh and jared bernstein, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead, george zimmerman's new run-in with the law. we'll tell you what he was arrested for and whether he could finally go to prison. also why the trees are always the right height when it comes to mitt romney and the white house. stay with us. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 50,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. and i earn 5 times the rewards on internet, phone services and at office supply stores. with ink plus i can choose how to redeem my points. travel, gift cards even cash back. and my rewards points won't expire. so you can make owning a business even more rewarding. ink from chase. so you can. the world is filled with air. but for people with copd sometimes breathing air can be difficult. if you have copd, ask your doctor about once-daily anoro ellipta. it helps people with copd breathe better for a full 24hours. anoro ellipta is the first fda-approved product containing two long-acting bronchodilators in one inhaler. anoro is not for asthma. anoro contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. it is not known if this risk is increased in copd. anoro won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden copd symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, or high blood pressure. tell your doctor if you have glaucoma, prostate or bladder problems, or problems passing urine as anoro may make these problems worse. call your doctor right away if you have worsened breathing chest pain, swelling of your mouth or tongue, problems urinating or eye problems including vision changes or eye pain while taking anoro. nothing can reverse copd. the world is filled with air and anoro is helping people with copd breath air better. get your first prescription free at anoro.com. why do i cook? 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>> well there's another take to this too. everything that she just said was correct, faith is correct, however, another way to look at this is that most of the time when a prosecutor presents a case to the grand jury there is an indictment. and, in fact, if there is not an indictment, it's usually because the prosecutor led the grand jury to not indicting. so in this instance instead of taking responsibility and bringing it to the grand jury and getting an indictment, another way to look at it is the prosecutor did an open charge and it goes now before a judge in a special hearing, and at the hearing, the judge now has the responsibility to find whether there's probable cause or not to charge the officers and then lay it over for trial. so if this judge decides there's not probable cause, there will be no further trial for these officers. so that is a possibility in this case. there may not be a trial depending on what happens at this hearing. >> all right. we will stay on top of this. i assure you. now to a new arrest of george zimmerman. police arrested him late friday night and charged him with aggravated assault for allegedly throwing a wine bottle at his girlfriend. he's now out of jail on bond. in 2013 zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter in the death of trayvon martin. since then he's dealt with police several times. in november 2013 his then-girlfriend said he pointed a gun in her face smashed her coffee table, and pushed her out of the house. no charges were filed. a few months earlier, his ex-wife said he threatened her with a gun and said he punched her father. no charges were filed. this weekend, zimmerman's lawyer was asked why his client keeps having run-ins with police. >> i don't like to speculate about emotional things either. it's clear he hasn't been very lucky with the ladies the last few months. but beyond that no i don't have a comment. >> zimmerman filed a defamation suit against nbc news, but a judge dismissed that claim last summer. he has since appealed the decision. ken, your reaction? >> well my reaction first of all, is disgust. you know after three arrests for domestic violence what we get from mr. don west is a joke? you know thousands of women are killed or beaten or badly injured in domestic violence cases in this country and to make a joke about a third arrest for a client not being lucky with the ladies i find that offensive and maybe mr. west should look into another line of work. as for mr. zimmerman, this is now the third time he's been arrested. and we're going to see if the process plays out this time and if, in fact there's going to be a trial to determine whether or not he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. >> faith, it seems in all of these incidents it deals with some violence. >> right. >> and guns. >> well i mean listen george zimmerman keeps having to defend himself from women and children apparently. this is actually the fourth domestic violence case against him and he has killed a teenager. so this is someone who's had repeated contacts with the law. he has a pattern. and patterns about people don't lie. unfortunately, you know, this is one of those cases where this young woman who's involved has already said she doesn't want to go forward or press any charges but when the police stopped her, she was so distraught she did give a statement and they did take her statement. she told what happened. george zimmerman has already said she's the one that threw the wine bottle at him. it was the other way around. he is always having to defend himself against these women who apparently, according to him, keep making up things to try to get him in trouble. >> so again, if the young lady says ken, that she doesn't want to go forward, will these charges be dropped as we've seen before? >> well, that's a very -- >> i just need a quick answer. >> the quick answer is no. if the victim doesn't want to go forward and the state can't get her to go forward, they're not going it haveto have a case and the charges will be dropped again. >> ken and faith, thanks for your time tonight. straight ahead, is it time to break out the binders full of women again? mitt romney is talking about running for president. plus an amazing story developing. could general petraeus be facing criminal charges tonight? and common's file a golden globe speech on why summer is bigger than a movie. 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"yeah, i want to be president." but just six months ago, he was saying this. >> i'm not running for president. i said that so many times. as you know we just had this conference here in park city utah. i brought a number of the 2016 contenders here to meet with my fund-raisers. had i been running, i wouldn't be doing that. >> krystal, do you think he'll get in and what happens if he does? >> well, first of all, i don't know that it's exactly breaking news that mitt romney wants to be president. i think mitt romney has always wanted to be president. i think mitt romney always will want to be president. but that's a different question from whether he actually gets in this race. it's hard for me to imagine with as crowded as the field looks to be with likely jeb bush with potentially chris christie with potentially scott walker that he would actually want to get in and lose again. let's say he does. let's game it out. i think that this primary is even more challenging for him to get through than the last one that he was barely able to survive with people like newt gingrich and rick santorum who aren't exactly the a-list contenders. so that's why i think it's hard to imagine him subjecting himself to that again. >> but the problem that i'm hearing some people say is that he really does not want to see jeb bush be out there. they've got a little -- little disagreement between the two. >> well a lot of things i don't want as well but sometimes i don't get everything i want as well, reverend. look, for me it's like a stray cat just constantly coming back and clawing at the window. we don't want you. i'm sorry. we told you twice we don't want you, but he has to keep on coming back. it's no secret that the republican party doesn't want a replay of 2012 doesn't want a bunch of crazy candidates, right? they do want to throw their weight behind candidates who are somewhat more conservative and maybe more conventional. but they're not going to go back to him. they're not going to go back to a guy who is a guaranteed loser. if they want conventional, they go with jeb or they'll go with chris christie. >> tara you're the political strategist at the table tonight. if he's in who does that help, who does that hurt on the republican side? >> well first i want to say i think mitt romney will run. the only circumstance under which i think he does not run is if the powers that be the people, the king makers in the republican party, the big donors, the people who control the conservative media, if they sit him down and say, don't run, that's the only eventuality under which i think he doesn't run. >> so he runs unless the powers that be in the party tell him don't run? >> i think so. >> i should have called rush before the show. >> but tara do you -- >> let me tell you why i think he will run. because number one, he wants this really really bad. number two, i guarantee you he has done the vulnerability assessment of that field. remember, he has chris christie's vetting paperwork. so he knows what skeletons are in that closet beyond what we already know about him. number three if you look at the field without even doing a vulnerability assessment which i think he did because he has the money to do it. if you look at the field, jeb bush has bad financial dealings. when that comes out, he's going to be in trouble. >> krystal? >> tara the problem there, though republicans think they should have been able to beat obama with a ham sandwich last time. that was in their mind. it was their race to lose. he lost it. it's hard to recover that for the establishment donors and get them back. >> look where the energy is. the gop is invigorated at a grassroots tea party level. they think they made a mistake the last two times by going with these big conventional guys. i don't think they'll make the same mistake again. >> i'm trying to get my brain around are we ready for more of this? let me show you what we'll be in store for. >> so we went to the company and said, look you can't have any illegals working on our property. i'm running for office for pete's sake. i can't have illegals. 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. they brought us whole binders full of women. rick, i'll tell you what. 10,000 bucks? $10,000 bet? corporations are people my friend. >> i mean, i mean do we really think america's waiting with bated breath for more of that? >> new yorko, i mean, just playing that clip would be enough to dis abuse any republicans from saying -- he's enjoying maybe we should have, maybe we could have. ultimately we know they know he was not a good candidate and is a very bad fit. >> very last -- >> josh i got to move on, but let me ask this. could one of the more celebrated leaders in our history be facing criminal charges? "the new york times" reported the fbi and justice department prosecutors have recommended bringing felony charges against david petraeus. the prosecutor is saying the general may have improperly disclosed classified information to his biographer paula broadwell. who he admitted to having an affair with. some from both sides of the aisle already defending him. attorney general holder is keeping quiet on whether petraeus will face criminal charges. tara petraeus said he never provided classified information to miss broadwell. should he be charged? >> well if people can prove otherwise that he has, in fact committed a felony. if there is proof he did, in fact, do that he's committed a felony. he's a celebrated figure whether people like him or not. he's a celebrated figure in american politics. i will say this. if charges are brought against him, he has no one to blame but himself. >> josh? >> this is one of the most secretive administrations. they've gone after so many whistleblowers, gone after so many leakers. obama administration is atrocious when it comes to this sort of stuff. i say, yes, don't pursue him. don't prosecute him. but also pardon snowden. you know forget about being so paranoid about the secrecy of this government. we have more top secret documents being issued at the moment thatn we have in america's history. quit with all of this paranoia. >> he was director of the cia. that's a very, very different situation. we cannot have a situation in this country where there are two criminal justice systems depending on how important and powerful you are. >> apply to everybody. >> people who were tortured unconstitutionally -- >> stay with me. when we come back we go to the golden globes and a speech to remember from rapper, common. they're coming. what do i do? you need to catch the 4:10 huh? the equipment tracking system will get you to the loading dock. ♪ there should be a truck leaving now. i got it. now jump off the bridge. what? in 3...2...1... are you kidding me? go. right on time. right now, over 20,000 trains are running reliably. we call that predictable. thrillingly predictable. thought i told you to stay off our turf. we're back with our panel, krystal, josh, and tara. now to the golden globals and a powerful acceptance speech from rapper common who won with john lend for their original song featured in "selma." >> the first day i stepped on the set of "selma" i began to feel like this was bigger than a movie. as i got to know the people of the civil rights movement i realized i am the hopeful black woman who was denied her right to vote. i am the caring white supporter killed on the front lines of freedom. i am the unarmed black kid who maybe needed a hand but instead was given a bullet. i am the two fallen police officers murdered in the line of duty. "selma" has awakened my humanity. >> josh, what do you make of that acceptance speech? >> i think it's a powerful reminder of the fact that art is not distinct and different from the rest of our lives. right? that at its best it's able to reflect and comment on and make us think about the way that we engage with the world. the way that we engage with each other. i think there are a lot f filmof films that have been powerful that this way this year. i think it's been a good year for hollywood. in spite of all the crazy, silly, summer blockbusters, there have been a few films that remind of us that. that speech was a perfect way of bringing bringing -- >> tara, i've seen the film and i think particularly at these times that so much social justice movements, some of which i'm involved in i think it really put a lot of context to where we find ourselves in some of the broad discussions that are happening now around race and civil liberties and civil rights and crime. >> well sadly, we've come on the one hand we've come a long way, but on the other hand sadly, we see so many parallels as we stated with this film and what is happening today, and i think his speech in particular was so important because he talked art everyone suffering and one of the most poignant wonderful parts of the civil rights movement is everyone came together. not everyone but most people came together to support the movement. >> but i think if you watch the film, you find that it was a lot more divided than people thought. >> that's right. >> even in the black community, krystal. they didn't want dr. king to come to selma. what is he doing here? there were some against nonviolence. i think a lot of people have seen a sanitized version and this film showed it was not much less divisive than it is right now. >> and it's easy to find yourself on the wrong side of history if you're not careful and if you're not thinking art that moral arc of the universe. looks back it seems inevitable and obvious, yes, this is going to happen. going back to that moment it was so tenuous and so divided. i love what common said though. he said when i stepped on the set and i knew this was more than a movie. and that is hollywood at its best. telling those stories that are more than just, you know, a fun -- >> i actually like that he -- i like that he identified that he was the kid that was unarmed and reached out for a hand and got a bullet, but he was also the two police officers that was killed in the line of duty. he was giving equal balance to where we've got to deal. i've got to go krystal, josh and tara. thank you all for your time tonight. >> thanks. ahead, five years after the earthquake in haiti, the comeback and the struggles. next. we need a bigger car. hi, how's it going? whatever you're looking for, start by test-driving nearly every make and model all in one place. carmax. start here. constipated? .yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips. it has magnesium and works more naturally than stimulant laxatives. for gentle cramp free relief of occasional constipation that works! mmm mmm live the regular life. 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[ m'm... ] [ tapping ] sounds good. campbell's healthy request. m'm! m'm! good.® timely tonight, five years ago today, devastation in haiti. when a massive earthquake hit haiti's capital and two days later the world got its first view of the destruction. >> daystaying alive is the only priority. people are scavengeing the rubble for food and water. as one aid worker put it together, money is worth nothing right now. water is the currency. >> an estimated 230,000 people were killed by the quake. another 1.5 million were displaced. today there is much improvement. parts of hate it are better and there are new roads and new cars in the city. hotels and updated hospitals have been built. but other parts remain untouched. at least 200,000 people live in hillside camps like these with no running water, electricity, or sanitation. nbc news interviewed this 32-year-old man living in a camp who said he is worse off after the earthquake than before. a total of $13.34 billion was raised for relief. this $4 billion has been allocated by the u.s. government. the other $9 billion-plus has yet to be used. global development analysts say a lack of accountability and transparency means hundreds of thousands of haitians have not gotten the help they need. the world rushed in to help.

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