background right now. temperatures 31 degrees. a chilly wednesday, hump day, february 6, 2013. good morning to you. i'm wisdom martin. >> we do have two school delays to pass along to you. garrett county, maryland public schools are on a two-hour delay and also a two-hour delay for the mountain ridge district in allegany county. a little bit of weather they are dealing with out there. >> yeah, we've had the series of clipper systems and they've been getting a little more each time than what we get around here. a little icy. that is the worst of t to the east of the bay, we are getting reports of fog. otherwise, around here, just some cloud cover to start your morning. your commute should be dry. kids going to the bus stop, it is cold in the low 30s. want to be ready for a february morning. but later this afternoon, a little sunshine. something we haven't done for several days. kind of a typical february day. let's do radar first real quick and show you that there is nothing happening. very quiet conditions out there. we did have a sprinkle or flurry as i mentioned with our latest clipper system. that is now pushing to the east here. still some cloud cover for the morning but i think by afternoon, we'll get some sunshine. temperatures, 37 at reagan national. has the warm spot. dulles and bwi marshall, highs today in the mid-40s. should be dry for you this afternoon. officially, we'll call it partly sunny and mid-40s. tomorrow look good. friday does not look good. we could have a wintry mix early friday morning. we'll talk more about that in a minute. time now to see what is going on during our morning commute. >> you were talking about cake. >> now, we all want cake. >> the crew in sky fox happen to be hovering above the beltway at 66. light traffic volume traveling between annandale and merrifield. nix itself is quiet. no accidents reported. toll road is nice and quiet as well leaving 28 headed close in towards the capital beltway. let's can't with our ride on northbound 395 as we top up the cameras here coming across the 14th street bridge. no accidents to report working your way over to the southeast- southwest freeway. vre trains coming out of fredericksburg, service has been suspended temporarily. we have problems with a broken rail on one of the tracks and we had a stalled train on another track near the burke station. no incidents to report right now as you travel the top stretch of the beltway. lanes are open leaving college park trying to get past colesville road headed over towards 270. that's a check of your fox 5 on-time traffic. e traffic. new this morning, a d.c. police officer is recovering and a suspect is in serious condition following an officer involved shooting. this happened around 11:00 last night when officers were called to a home on 13th street northwest. when they arrived, the suspect attacked one of the officers with a knife. the officer shot at the suspect hitting him in the head. the officer was treated and released for puncture wounds. in other top stories, lawmakers have less than one month to strike a deal that will avoid billions of dollars in spending cuts and hundreds of thousands of job losses in our area. >> the massive budget cuts known as sequestration is set to take effect march 1st. president obama is now urging congress to come up with a short-term deal while a longer- term deal is worked out. republicans are standing firm saying they want certain spending cuts and no new tax hikes. >> the president believes that congress ought to take action to buy down the sequester in a balanced way which we did in december so we know what the model looks like to achieve t we would work with congress on the composition of that package. >> this is no greater more imperative than to reduce the mountain of debt that is facing us, our children and theirs. and our house republican majority stands ready for the president and his party to join us and actually tackle the big problems facing this country. >> the sequester was created as a compromise between republicans and democrats on fiscal cliff the matters at the end of last year. a decision today could pave the way for the boy scouts of america to allow gay scouts and scout leaders. the organize's national executive board is meeting at its headquarters in irving, texas and is expected to rule on the controversial policy today. they are facing intense pressure from all sides. so far, this morning, thousands of people have taken to the boy scouts of america facebook page to make their voices heard. also today, in a landmark vote, british lawmakers have moved one step closer to legalizing same-sex marriage. it must now pass in the house of lords before it can become law. that process could take months. if approved, it is expected to take effect in 2015. maryland governor martin o'malley and prince george's county state's attorney angela also brook are testifying today. the state's attorney general has had to drop charges in at least eight cases last year because the statute of limitations expired. a toy gun has landed a local 10-year-old in a lot of trouble. police say the fifth grader at macarthur elementary in alexandria was riding home on the school bus he showed the toy gun for another student. police claim the boy did not say it was fake. the other student's parents reported the incident to police. school officials fouled the toy gun in the boy's bag when he came to school yesterday. the child was arrested and charged with brandishing a well on and he is suspect ended for the time being. a judge will hear arguments from the news media on whether to unseal recent documents related to the chandra levy case. ingmar guandique was convicted of killing levy in 2010. in the last two months, the presiding judge held two meeting with the prosecution and the defense over an issue with the trial witness. but he sealed most of it for safety reasons. the judge is expected to make some sort of ruling in court tomorrow. guandique will be brought in from an alabama prison to ascend. a powerful earthquake followed by a deadly tsunami. still ahead, an update from the south pacific. >> plus a dangerous discovery. new insight into what the suspect in the alabama hostage standoff was hiding on his property. 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>> yes, we do. >> i just went snooping around the building. i missed that. they must be hiding it. >> they're hiding it from you. >> southbound colesville road here at university boulevard, accident activity along the right side of the road. heads up as you travel southbound on 29 headed out towards university boulevard. you want to line up early to the center and to the left to get by. no issues reported at the wilson bridge. traffic flowing freely. this happens to be 359 northbound leaving edsall road headed out towards duke street. all lanes are open. no issues reported here. eastbound 66 below speed. no issues reported through centreville or headed eastbound through fair oaks. out are loop of the beltway still slowing as you half travel between university boulevard and colville road with lanes open. that's a check of your fox 5 on-time traffic. traffic. the commonwealth now joins d.c. and maryland when it comes to cracking down on drivers who text behind the wheel. state lawmakers in both the senate and house passed bills to increase the fines to $250 and make it a primary offense. so now, police can stop and ticket anyone they see texting behind the wheel. the post office continues to look for ways to dig out of its financial hole and it might look to the weekend to do it. there are reports this morning the postmaster general will officially propose cutting saturday mail delivery. the postal service has a new conference scheduled for 10:00 this were nothing in which is it says it will make a big announcement on restructuring plans. reagan national airport will be temporarily transformed into an artist's studio today. morgan monso who you see here will begin work on a painting for his negro league baseball series at the airport in recognition of black history month. the baltimore-base artist will explain his creative process to students at howard university starting at 10:30 this morning in the baggage claim area. a big comeback on wall street. coming up next, we'll go live to fox business network in new york for the detail on a look ahead. >> if you are a collector of banal baseball memorabilia, it doesn't get much better than this. at i team photograph of the brooklyn atlantics from 1865. the only other known copy is in the library of congress. what a find. we'll be right back. very if you are a collector of baseball memorabilia, it doesn't get much better than this. for over 75 years people have saved money with...ohhh... ...with geico... ohhh...sorry! director's voice: here we go. from the top. and action for over 75 years people have saved money with gecko so.... director's voice: cut it! ...what...what did i say? 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stay the same, in 2017, your bill will be $40 a month more. why? well, we'll be using 6.2 gigabytes of data a month. to put that in perspective. that is 745% more than we use right now. that is a lot of data. most of it to be because we are streaming from netflix and youtube and hulu and downloading all of that video. but the other thing to consider is that there is also going to be more wi-fi hot spots by the year 2017. so maybe people can kind of save their $40 a month and just have wi-fi has an option. >> that sound like a great idea and a plan i'm going to go with. from the real money to fake mondayy. monopoly is getting a reboot. >> great transition. someone is getting the boot at mop oply. we'll find out later this morning if it is the wheelbarrow which always tips over, the shoe or the iron that is going to be replaced by a diamond ring, a cat, a robot, a helicopter or a guitar. it is the first major change to the tokens in hasbro's monopoly 78-year-old history. so folks cast their votes as of midnight last night and the announcement coming in a couple of hours from now. i would vote take the wheelbarrow out and put the diamond ring in. >> i would vote to take the iron out. >> as long as the diamond ring is in there, you're good. >> thank you very much. still ahead, president obama calls for a short-term budget fix but how is his plan sitting with republicans this morning. a live report from capitol hill is coming up. >> and mayor vincent gray outlined his planned for the district last night. we'll tell you what is on the table. plus the caps just can't seem to get it together. so is it time to panic? dave ross will join me for the morning line after the break. welcome back to fox 5 morning news. it is 6:29 right now. live look outside over the washington, d.c. region on wednesday, february 6th. is that right? i can't see. i've been saying it all morning. i should know it by now. i do know it is 2013 and it is cold outside and that february is normally the coldest time of the year. and we usually get snow. this is the snowiest month of the year. >> yeah, we'll see what happens. maybe we will get a little bit late thursday and early friday. let's get to the forecast for this morning. was that reagan national? >> i think so. >> i couldn't tell. >> it is hard to see. our monitors are right here under the camera. it is hard to see from this distance. >> i could see the river. sometimes all you can see are the lights. >> the camera catches us, and wear like t a live look outside. >> 37 degrees. regional look here at temperatures on the cold side. but it is not brutally cold. detroit is 20. so much of the region and let me mention outside of the district, most of the area is below freezing this morning. satellite-radar, we did have a flurry and/or a sprinkle overnight. that is done with and now we are dealing with cloud cover. i think we'll see lots of clouds here for your start to your day but later this afternoon, partial sunshine. we're hoping to work a little sun in here as high pressure builds in and temperatures in the mid-40s. it should be a nice dry day today so no issues with your morning commute. later this afternoon, weather will not be a factor as things are relatively quiet here for the next couple of days. 41 in annapolis. upper 30s in you are north and west. 38 in frederick this afternoon with sunshine building in. not going to be perfectly sunny but should be at least partly sunny this afternoon. >> a little bit of sun is fine because it has been so dark. >> it has been a little dark. >> and the snow. >> it puts you in a better mood. >> it doesn't have to be really warm. just the sun, we need the light more than anything. that's my take. >> i agree with you. >> all right. time now to check in with traffic and julie wright. e wri we do have an update on fredericksburg vre because the train service had been temporarily stopped with at least a 30-minute delay due to a broken rail and we had a disabled train near the burke station. metro is still honoring your vre passes. we'll show you what is happening out here on the highways. for those traveling northbound on the baltimore-washington parkway, accident activity reported before you commit to the beltway. southbound lanes are open. no issue reported out of riverdale. we'll pull up the cameras, southbound 29 at university boulevard. accident activity was tying up the right side of the road. again, expect heavy volume as you work your way through four corners. northbound on 395, volume delays only edsall road trying to get past duke street. no issues reported on the beltway between annandale and merrifield. all lanes are open on the top side of the beltway leaving college park headed over towards 270. that's a check of your fox 5 on-time traffic. traffic. >> thank you. south our big story this morning, showdown on capitol hill as another budget deadline looms. thousands of jobs in our area are at risk. >> automatic spending cuts are set to take effect on march 1st if congress and the president cannot agree on a long or short term deal. it seems this is becoming all too familiar of a story for lawmakers. >> reporter: we've heard this many times before. president obama no doubt will talk about this with senate democrats today when he meets with them in annapolis for their annual retreat. the president is pushing lawmakers this time for yet another short-term deal to try to avoid the automatic spending cuts known as sequestration that are supposed to kick in in 23 days. now, under the terms of some of those previous budget deals, congress must now find $58 billion in deficit reduction either by raising revenue or closing tax loopholes by march 1st. medicare would take a 2% reduction. the president prefers an option that raises more money by closing tax loop hoalsz. republicans want to stick with spending cuts saying they've already done the revenue part. a study estimated 448,000 jobs in d.c., maryland and virginia could be affected by automatic budget cuts. the sequestration cuts are unpopular with both parties and there are concerns about the economic impact. >> our economy right now is headed in the right direction and it will stay that way as long as there aren't any more self-inflicted wounds coming out of washington. >> the sooner we solve our spending problem, the sooner our jobs problem will go away as well. >> reporter: you may remember these cuts were originally scheduled to kick in on january 1st because congress could not agree on a broader package for deficit reduction back in 2011 and 2012 in exchange for republicans agreeing to raise the debt ceiling. they were once again pushed off for of -- 60 days as part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the president believes he can buy more time and perhaps lawmakers will come to an agreement and so he is pushing for yet another short-term deal. but there are some republicans here on capitol hill that say maybe they are willing to let the sequestrations, these automatic cuts kick in because they believe there has been too much kicking the can down the road and they think this may be the only way to achieve true deficit reduction. duction. back to you guys. >> time is running out quickly. thank you. d.c. mayor vincent gray focused on the successes of the city during his third annual state of the district address. last night's speech was held at the sixth and i historic synagogue in northwest. the mayor rolled off a number of achievements that he says prove the district is well on its way to being a big league world class city. he touted a drop in climb, unprecedented development and the creation of 2,000 private sexer jobs in the last two years. >> the district's unemployment rate has declined by nearly three full percentage points. >> look where the city is moving, how the city is moving forward both fiscally, we're fiscally sound. we are the envy of many cities in america. america. a d.c. council member is introducing 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around the commonwealth. >> do you enjoy a good party. >> i used to before i had three kid and a wife. >> they had a really good party in charm city. tucker barnes was like live reporting. he had a great vantage point of the tens of thousands of people as you see here. it started early on in the day about 11:00 and they made their way over to m & t stadium and 08,000 people packed the stadium. >> that is how you do it. >> so if you wonder, tuck told me at one point they had a steelers suck chant that started up. do you have a problem with that one team calling on another team on their big day. >> it is your moment. you shouldn't even acknowledge the steelers. >> to come in this with a yellow steelers shirt on. >> there was a steelers fan. >> if he this show up, you be like this is our day. >> ray has the trophy now. it is in the hall of fame. give baltimore their day. a lot of people have been saying they don't like to see baltimore do this because it makes them think as redskins fans they haven't seen it in so long. >> it is fine. >> they'll get another one here. >> we think. >> let's just stay in the moment. >> baltimore is only 45 miles away. it is fine. relax. enjoy the trophy. >> we are anot enjoying what has been happening at the verizon center. i have a question that i want to propose to you. which team is better, is it the capitals would last night lost again 3-2 to toronto. i got there. it was 2-0. and they immediately scored but that good luck charm quickly worn out. it was nicky backstrom gnome night. i don't know what to do with that. they are the worst. the washington wizards on no longer the worst team. >> where are they? >> they are one game better than share hot. >> they are the second worst team in the eastern conference. >> but i would like to point out something you said a couple of weeks ago. up said john wall should be shut down to the whole year. remember that. >> i remember that. >> since he has come back, they are 7-7 with the guy you wanted 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>> it was fine. gwen and i did it. >> what was it? >> it was a very dry topic. it was about thawing your meat. >> glad i missed it. >> very direct and to the point there. yes, it was exactly what it was about. >> listen, i have a question. today, question comes from me and i'm directing it to tucker. can you tell us all about yesterday and your persons. >> what a great event it was for the city of baltimore and the state of maryland, for anybody who is a ravens fan. there were people from all over the place, west virginia, maryland. i know around here that there is another team that people care about. so not everybody cares about the ravens. for those that did, the city of baltimore, it was a great party. it was amazing how well everybody got along, how patient everybody was. it was very cold outside. we were forced to wait for more than an extra hour after they told us the parade was going to start and everybody was just celebrating, singing and having fun and dancing. >> you were saying that you -- if you were there early enough, you could get very close to the players and all of that. >> not only could you get close but the players got out of the vehicle and went down the line and celebrated with everybody. >> these are pictures that i took. and i was able to get fairly close. that is ed reid holding the super bowl rovey. >> it was amazing how the player were holding the super bowl trophy like it was a loaf of bread. >> they were letting people touch in. >> that was ed reid later. they were like handing it off to each other. it was just amazing. i'm like please don't drop it. baltimore will never get another one. that is ray lewis and a great story about ray lewis. he is the end of the parade so as the parade took off, his was at last vehicle. well, people weren't satisfied just getting a glimpse of him. they wanted to chase him down the road. >> he was in his car ready to leave. >> no, he was in the aroundorred vehicle. >> there was no real order. >> it got a little chaotic there at the end. that is a pick i took. remember in the morning when i was doing the report from the -- from city hall, that is what happened about an hour later. >> look like the inauguration. >> there were literally tens of thousands of people there to see it. school kids, clearly the teachers brought them out of class. >> 80,000 people packed the stadium. they to close the gates and people were climbing over the fence to get a glimpse. >> hopefully, we'll do it again in washington. i went for a couple of parades back when the redskins won and what struck you is what strikes me or struck me way back when. what is great about it is it is a diversion for everybody. it is a football game. we know it is just a game but it's chance to celebrate and those are the few times when you see people, white being black, tall, short, democrat, republican, whatever, everyone just loves each other. you are hugging each other. it is just -- >> it is so true. >> it is one of the few times we really get that. that is what is so great about it. >> it was wonderful. we need to bring one to wash because it has been a while. >> did you do any crowd surfing? that would have been fun. >> i wouldn't dare do that up there. >> you may not come back with all your limbs. >> tomorrow, we'll get back to the regular ask tony and tucker. if you have a question you want answered, go to myfoxdc.com and click on the weather tab. there you go. >> this may be the last time we talk about the ravens and their win. are you okay with this? she has her dallas blue on right now by the way. >> i know, right. i'm like really? >> hanging on for dear live. >> i do root for the home teen when it comes to hockey and i'm not having a good soap so far. so congratulation i even wore purple for you yesterday. >> you did? >> you didn't notice? >> i couldn't see anything. >> that is what he said when he hit me in the car with the parking lot yesterday. i couldn't see you. congratulation. glad you got to go and glad you had a fun time. heavy volume to calm this commute headed southbound and no relief in sight for those conning out of gaithersburg. again, heavy moderate volume as you continue. you are in the thick of it as you continue south towards 124. we do have accident activity to report. this is going to tie up your commute if you are traveling northbound on the baltimore- washington parkway. crash occurred before you reach the capital beltway. still dealing with the accident southbound 29 at university boulevard. line up early to the left to get by. delays on 359 there the beltway to duke street and crossing over the 14th street bridge. that's a check of your fox 5 on-time traffic. our very own holly morris is dancing her way to the kennedy center this morning. >> she is getting a behind the scene look at the work of a man who has been creating dances for decades. we are even going to meet one of the performers who calls maryland home. we're back after this. er this. we're e sitting on a bunch of shale gas. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ it means cleaner, cheaper american-made energy. but we've got to be careful how we get it. design the wells to be safe. thousands of jobs. use the most advanced technology to protect our water. billions in the economy. at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. ♪ good morning, everybody. i'm holly morris. happy wednesday to you. you know it's going to be a good morning when we're starting in the kennedy center. doesn't get much better than the american dance theater which is in town right now only through sunday and do we have special things planned this morning for you. we're going to meet two of the dancers. renee robinson. the last dancer in the company to be selected by alvin himself. we'll talk about that. also, we're going to meet alicia mac. she is someone right from our area. renee is too. alicia trained in columbia maryland. she gets some rehearsal time in and spend time with the artistic director. he's very special. only the third person to ever lead the company. the company started way back in 1958. now in its 55th year. how much it has really participated in throughout the years and what it's meant not only for black dancers but the dance community in general and how do you go on about carrying on that legacy and the most important information which is how do you get tickets to any of the shows going on here through sunday. >> that's what we want to know, holy. thanks. >> time now to say good morning to today's facebook fan of the day. tina mae brown. thank you tina for watching. we appreciate it. >> that does it for the 6:00 hour. >> now, let's send it over to allison and tony. happy wednesday. >> happy hump day. thank you very much. coming up on fox 5 morning news. under attack. >> a routine call ends with one dc police officer stabbed in the back while another opens fire. we have an update on the officer's condition and the latest on the officer's condition. >> reporter: 23 days and counting down to sequestration. calling on congress to stop the automatic spending cuts from kicking in. >> and later, a middle finger pointed up. while flipping off a judge caught one inmate extra time behind bars. fox 5 morning news starts right now. >> this is fox 5 morning news.
after a cloudy couple days, we'll see more sunshine today than what we've got most of the week. 35 in washington. dulles 30 degrees. bwi marhsall 33. looking at the satellite radar, clouds overnight. sprinkle or flurry for parts of the area. clearing out the last few hours. and i can tell you i see blue sky and we'll get a nice sunrise in about a half hour's time. much more sunshine than yesterday. partly sunny day with high temperatures expected to be in the mid 40s. all right. lots of waeth her to talk about coming up. we have storm system that could bring us a wintery mix. let's do traffic and find out what's happening on the roadways. >> we're anticipating what friday morning could bring for us. while you have the next couple days should be clear out there. fill up with plenty of wiper fluid. these are live pictures from the crew in sky fox. this is where we had problems earlier with the vre trains out of fredericksburg. we had problems earlier because a problem with the track and a disabled train. we have a lot of people still standing out there on that platform at the brooks station. an additional 20 minute delay. don't forget metro will honor your tickets this morning from vre. northbound on the baltimore washington parkway, crash before the beltway. police and fire activity. 55th street south of burroughs. a lot of activity there as well. we'll show you what else we have out here on the roads. 395 remains slow before the beltway up shoreds sherlington. west of new hampshire avenue around towards 270. that's a check of your fox 5 on time traffic. >> thank you, julie. first at 7:00, officers under attack open fire on a suspect. this happened late last night along 13th street. dc police tell us two officers responded to a domestic violence call when they say a man attacked one of them with a knife. two puncture wounds to the back but expected to be okay. another officer shot the suspect in the head. the suspect is in serious condition. he faces burglary and assault charges. >> another news alert for you now. this time from the south pacific. officials on the solomon islands say many people are expected to be dead. tsunami warnings were issued. this video shows people fleeing for higher grounds. those alerts have since been canceled. >> new this morning, the boy scouts policy banning gay members and leaders could face a vote today. the organizations executive board will meet behind closed doors to discuss the issue. the group announced last week it will allow individual troops to decide whether to allow gay members. the pentagon is also taking steps to be more inclusive of gays. defense secretary will extend some benefits to same sex partners of military members. comes more than a year after the pentagon lifted the ban on gays serving in the military. >> president obama will try to sell democrats on his plans for immigration, gun control and the economy during a closed door meeting today. this happened in annapolis. the president's ambitious second term agenda relies on support from law makers. and while the president heads to maryland. >> billions of dollars will take effect next month. without one, the district could be hit hard. melanie alnwick is live with the latest details. >> reporter: tony and allison, if you feel like we've been here before, that's because we have. a very long and frustrating game of kick the can here. seems like over and over again. these cuts were supposed to kick in january 1st. back in 2011 and 2012, congress could not agree on a broader package. that was an exchange for republicans agreeing to raise the debt ceiling. and january 1st, the fiscal cliff deal, decided to push it off for 60 days and now here we are. under the terms of the earlier budget deals, now must find $85 billion somewhere by march 1st otherwise pentagon spending will shrink. and medicare will take a 2% reduction. the president and democrats prefer an option that raises more money by closing tax loopholes. republicans want to stick with spending cuts saying they've already agreed to tax hikes. 448,000 jobs in dc, maryland and virginia could be affected. concerned about the impact on our economy. >> sequestration will hurt not only the defense side but the nondefense side. my committee funds the fbi. there will probably be furloughs at the fbi and the national cancer institute, nih. defense and nondefense. >> that hurts the broader economy. people are concerned about their jobs and don't know the impact on their bank accounts. that holds them from spending on movies and restaurants and theaters. thinks he has time to buy a little bit more of a deal. let republicans and democrats work it out. but some republicans say they've had enough. they think the spending cuts are the only way to achieve true deficit reduction. back to you. >> all right, melanie. thank you very much. president obama's pick to head the cia. a justice department memo leaked yesterday outlined the justification for killing american citizens without a trial if they are working with al-qaida. learning about a secret u.s. drone base first reported by the new york times. did not object to water boarding al-qaida terrorists though now he opposes that technique. >> fbi is combing over -- investigators have revealed they found two explosive devices on the suspect's property. one was in the ventilation pipe authorities were using to communicate with that man. the other was inside the bunker. dykes was killed by swat agents as they engaged in a fire fight as they stormed the bunker and rescued the boy. >> the murder case heads back to court in dc. a judge will hold a hearing to decide if the media should have documents related to secret hearings. the meetings allegedly focused on an issue with trial witness. convicted of killing levy back in 2010. >> also today a possible plea hearing for a man accused of shooting a security guard at the family research council this summer. floyd lee corkins is scheduled to appear. court papers show he and prosecutors were working on a plea deal. faces terrorism charges. officers say he had issues with the christian lobby politics. >> following some breaking news right now from south florida. take a look at these pictures. this is a box truck dangling off an overpass off i 95. we understand the vehicle is secured and not in danger of going over. one person was rescued and taken to the hospital. this is happening right now along i 95 in fort lauder dale, florida. >> a plea from the president. still ahead we're going to sit down for a look at whether congress can solve the next round of spending cuts. >> why experts say they are living longer than parents before them. >> dave ross will join us live with more on huge crash that sidelined the american olympian. fox 5 morning news continues next. some folks didn't think thatt our coffee was their flavor, it wasn't their cup. if you don't like that dark roast, we've created a coffee for you. blonde is a beautiful, light roasted coffee. kind of mellow, sweet, a little citrusy. for me, personally, i love connecting with people, so blonde roast just gives me a whole nother reason to connect with more customers. ♪ after last night's caps fans might wish the lock out never ended. >> yeah really. dave ross joins us live with a look back and highlights from yesterday's superbowl celebration. all i saw was superbowl. >> get the superbowl back? >> i wish. >> it's so hard to put your finger on it. the efforts there from the guys. i like adam. >> is anybody playing good hockey after the lock out? is it just the caps? >> i think hockey has suffered. the quality of play just because they haven't been out there. they didn't have a training camp to get ready. you are going to see guys that are not ready to play. we need alex. for this team they got to get that guy back on track. and last night he was kind of mia. the efforts there but we're not seeing the production. and when you get miscommunication like this, you give up cheap goals. caps are down 2-0. fighting from behind a lot. they lost again last night. 3-2. games are close. not like the caps are getting blown out. so no matter who is in the net, that is not good. we're talking about the superbowl champions. tucker barnes was up there yesterday. what a sight it was. literally tens of thousands of fans yesterday. 80,000 plus. had to turn people away. a great turn out for the city. they did the city proud. you want to see every city do that. there's ray lewis doing the dance arguably for the last time. >> it won't be the last time. maybe not in that arena. he ain't going to let that go. >> how as a motivational speaker. >> that will get you fired up. lindsay von. this is tough to watch. down and out. four time overall world champion and tore ligaments in her right knee. had to be out of that situation. tough to see. but that's why you forget just how dangerous some of these sports can be. >> skiing in particular. people don't think about it. it's a dangerous sport . >> the rest is history. she's gone for the year. >> when was that? >> she looked great. that was before. in happier times, if you will. >> thank you, sir. talk to you in a bit. mr. barns. >> yeah, you ski long enough, eventually you are going to fall. >> true athlete for sure. >> weather wise we're looking fine. no snow around here to ski on. temperatures in the mid 40s later this afternoon. starting off on the chilly side. 35 right now in washington. 27 in boston. we'll do a spin around the country. most of the country fairly seasonable temperatures. we are warming up in texas. dallas is 60 degrees. 62 in tampa. warm air to our south and to our west. looking at satellite radar, we have the last in clipper systems. clouds overnight and sprinkle or flurry. and high pressure will build in for the day today. much more sunshine than yesterday. partly sunny conditions and highs in the mid 40s. that will be our next area of storminess. going to try to slide up the coast here late thursday and friday. and could bring parts of the region a wintery mix by early friday morning. we have to look out for that possibility. that's our next chance for winter weather. early friday morning should transition to rain. but things could be touch and go there. there's your accu weather 7 day and warmer temperatures on the way. we'll take 50 and sunny by sunday afternoon. >> dry out too. thank you, sir. >> head over to julie wright for a look at our on time traffic. >> now i believe we have the crew in sky fox. live footage. started off this morning with a stalled train near the brooks nation which is where they happen to be here. and also had problems to do with the track. problems with the track, a cracked rail. repairs are on going and that's what we see here. trains are moving once again but an additional 20 minute delay for friends on the dre system. metro will honor your ticket. check now with the wazers. no issues to report. lanes are open if you are traveling along the 495. no issues reported. delays there. let's pop up the maps for you. continue to work your way headed northbound 295. find yourself in a back up. slowing from 95 college park over to silver spring. and those traveling on northbound 295. 14 minute drive leaving the naval research lab. for those eastbound along 66. here's what i know. down to 26 miles an hour through manassas. doesn't improve from fair oaks to 123 and 17 miles an hour leaving vienna to the beltway. that's a check of your fox 5 on time traffic. >> thank you very much. making headlines around the region, the state of the district, mayor vincent gray claimed the city a success. rattling off a list of accomplishments that included a drop in unemployment. the creation of tens of thousands of jobs. on going development and a drop in crime. looking ahead, the mayor says he plans to spend $100 million to create 10,000 new affordable housing units. and in virginia, the future of a major transportation over haul remains unclear. yesterday the state senate deadlocked on the $3 billion package that would get rid of the 17 cent gas tax and replace it with a sales tax hike. governor bob mcdonald backs the deal. >> 7:20 now on this wednesday morning. coming up next, bad news for baby boomers. >> and later the return of the alvin avery dance company. check in with holly morris live. 7:20. we'll be right back. 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[ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant this is your shot. >> there can only be one american idol. topping our health watch, a warning to drivers. low calorie cocktails could make you more drunk. a new study found people who drank diet mix drinks had a higher concentration level than sugar drinks. the stomach digestive process slows down for diet drinks much like it does for food allowing more time for the alcohol to be absorbed into the bloodstream. baby boomers are living longer than their parents but not necessarily healthy as their parents. adults born between 1945 and 1964 are more likely to suffer from obesity, high blood pressure and high cholesterol hchlt and also more likely to drink and less likely to exercise. the good news, baby boomers smoke less and suffer fewer heart attacks than their parents did. pregnant women who live in areas with significant high air pollution have a higher risk of having babies with low birthrate. the higher the exposure the lower birthrate. lower birthrate babies have a higher risk of problems as well as dealt. >> all right. thank you much. still ahead in our next half hour, the president's plan to stop sequestration for now. we'll sit down with our team of political experts to see if it will work. thumbs down for inmate who gave the judge a raised middle finger. we'll show you what happened. and as we head to the break, a live look outside. not a bad start to the day. we'll get the latest traffic and tucker. did i say tucker? the latest weather and traffic from julie and tucker. caught on camera, another smash and grab robbery. this time at colonial juliers -- jewelers. this happened yesterday. police are trying to figure out if there's any connection. they are trying to see if there's a connection between the two cases. >> also caught on camera, what happens when you disrespect a judge. this florida woman flipped the judge the bird and stormed away. the judge called her back and sentenced her for 30 days in jail. the teen was upset the judge doubled her bail from 5 to $10,000. not a good move. >> nope. >> don't disrespect the judge. >> if you have authority. that's a problem. >> big lesson to learn. >> sunshine to start your day. should be a decent day. not going to be warm. not going to be memorable other than we'll get more sunshine than the last couple days. we'll take it. 30 in leonard town . 28 in salsbury. parts of the air dealing with fog. i think that will burn off quickly. 36 in frederick. our friends in the mountains in the mid 30s. 36 degrees and 28 in culpeper. it's a cool day. temperatures typical for where they should be for this time of year. highs mid 40s and more sunshine should feel better. we've been dealing with a series here. one after another for the past several days. and the last of the series rolled through last night. we're still dealing with cloud cover early today. not going to be a perfectly sunny day. want you to focus down here towards dallas and houston, that's our next storm. slide through the south later this afternoon and roll up the coast by late thursday and early friday. and parked right about here, there will likely be enough cold air in the midatlantic region we'll see a wintery mix around here. and we could have potentially have travel issues by early friday morning. lots of sunshine today. and here comes that area of low pressure into thursday and friday. much of the day on friday should feature rain showers. early friday morning could be issues with that storm. partly sunny skies. breezy at times. winds north and west at 15. and cold tonight with overnight lows below freezing. accu weather 7 day friday on that wintery mix. and notice the warmer temperatures. sunday 50 with sunshine. and mid 50s around here monday/tuesday. if you've had enough of the early cold here going to warm it up by the end of the weekend. somebody's celebrating. let's get to traffic with julie wright. >> on the roads this morning, we've had problems with vre. suspended service out of fredericksburg, that's no longer the case. had problems with a broken rail. vre brook station here in stafford. crews continue to work on this rail. we're told trains are able to get by. metro will honor your tickets this morning. thank you sky fox. let's show you what else is happening out here. traveling along the outer loop. the pace slow moving from college park trying to get past colesville road. baltimore washington parkway traffic slows 197 to powder mill. leaving duke street out towards sherlington. stalled vehicle out of the roadway. lanes are open on the inner loop. again, average speed westbound 495 now down to 16 miles an hour from college park. northbound on 295, still about a 14 minute drive from the naval research lab by way of the inbound 11th street bridge. that's a check of your fox 5 on time traffic. >> president obama wants congress to pass a short-term package spending cuts that could avert a severe economic crunch. for more on that topic, we turn to our team of political experts. jim, welcome back. good to see you . your partner peter is in morocco. must be nice. >> hopefully he won't get arrested. >> and just in case he does we have rodell mollineau. and he's a political democrat strategist. welcome to the show. >> thank you. >> president obama heading up the road today to sort of meet with some senate democrats to talk about some of these issues. jim, i'm sure more liberal issues the president is trying to push. we're talking about gun control, immigration, the economy. how important is this backing to him right now as he moves forward? rodell let me start with you today. >> sure. one thing democrats need to do is to realize on a lot of these issues, the public on their side when it comes to immigration and certain kinds of gun control. sometimes democrats start on the defensive and work back from there. and i think the president is just kind of going to be there and to say i'm with you, the american public is with you, they can get these things done and have momentum on the side. >> how tough will it be when you have to leave that security and head to the house floor? >> i think it's very tough right now. you know, things are starting to fracture on both sides. both parties are starting to have fracturing. this may be the first time i've heard the president sit down with the democrats and try to get everybody together. clearly they feel like they have problems. or else they wouldn't be doing this. still try to be running from the white house and let congress deal with what they have. he's got quite aggressive agenda he wants to pass and he needs to get everybody on his team. just like if this flip with republicans. except the fact he's never done it before. >> what then happens after this? we heard it late out in the speech the inauguration speech. what realistically needs to happen for movement on some of these issues he's laid out for us when he does face the republican opposition? >> well, i think he's got to -- going back to what you said, they have to get their act together on the democratic side. they need to have an agenda in the senate. republicans only control one of three branches of congress. so they've got to get their act together before you can address the republicans. and doing what they need to do aggressively, they've got to start there first. and so we'll have to see, i think the republicans are going to wait and see what comes out of it. there has been some bipartisan discussion. we don't know where there's going to come. we're seeing some work that way. the president might get help there depending how it's structured. we'll just kind of see what happens. >> this is really looming now the sequestration issue. the president wants congress to pass a short-term packet of spending cuts. basically the same thing we've all been through. kicking that can down the road a little bit. how is this being received and what does the president need to do to have some action on the sequestration so these cuts don't go into affect? >> i think it's more than the president. i think it's a business at large that needs to pressure mostly congressional republicans to do something on this. the idea of a sequester. we're going to do this and kick the can down the road but congress was going to do something. seems like they are going to need more time. the problem with the sequester sounds great. but you can't make cuts if you want the economy to grow. business understands that and the president understands that. the closer we get and starts watching the stock market tick down, congressional republicans are going to understand that we're going to get something done. >> what's going to happen, jim? >> i think it's going to happen. politicians aren't going to make the tough stands. the president talks about we can't make any more cuts. there are no cuts. he hasn't offered any sort of cuts. we're here today because we're spending way too much money. when we address spending, i think you are going to see a lot of movement. until then, i think you are seeing democrats on the other side talk about the fact maybe we should have sequestration. maybe we should have a bunch of cuts and back off of it. i think the voters what you asked about before is the public's tired of it. this is kicking the can down the road. if everybody ng today in two more months we'll kick it down the road again and again. i think right now there's no stomach for it. >> i think one of the things though is you can't do the let's see what happens, what's the worst that can happen? we tried to with the debt ceiling when we almost came to the brink of defaulting. i don't think you can go down that road. and some of these cuts we're not just talking about the fact quote unquote in government. these are cuts to education and innovation and things we're actually going to need. and might sound like a good idea, let's just do it. we deserve it cause it took us so long to get to this point. >> well, you would if the federal government had a role in some of these things. let's talk about education. education is funded on a local level. you are not going to hurt education. energy is produced by mostly by the private sector. only time isn't is when the federal government gives places like solyndra. i don't know you hurt anything by hurting education or by energy. i frankly think what you are going to see right now is a lot of republican wills and even democrats say let's stop all this craziness and sit down and come up with a plan. they had a plan two years ago. the president's bipartisan commission came up with a deficit reduction plan. i think we're back to ground zero again. but it doesn't feel like it this time. i don't know why. i think frankly it's going to happen. >> got about five seconds. final words. >> more government in business than you like to admit. >> we will see. unfortunately it's not too far from now where we will see. we'll be right back. thank you, gentleman. ♪ ♪ i'm halfway to your heart ♪ you have to let me know ♪ so i don't make my worst mistake ♪ ♪ turn around and let you go [ female announcer ] when sweet and salty come together, the taste is irresistible. made with sweet, smooth peanut butter and salted, roasted peanuts. sweet and salty nut bars by nature valley. nature at its most delicious. the voting is over. now, today is the day your monopoly board will get a make over. hasbro will announce which game piece it will eliminate. remember we talked about this a while back. and as you can see on the graph, the shoe, the wheelbarrow and the iron are in the danger zone. whichever one got the fewest vote will be replaced. we'll find out today. >> some of them rather are old fashion. >> the thimble. who uses that? i guess people who sew. >> recreating famous album covers. take a look. we have a sneak peak at the images. that's olympic swimmer recreating nirvana's never mind. recreating the one of the boy's album from 2008. and finally, tampa bay buccaneer's quarterback, very cool. recreating michael jackson's iconic thriller cover. that's cool. i like it. did they airbrush him in or is that a different photo? >> i think that's a different photo. michael was very lean. >> tucker, who would you be? >> the nirvana cover. >> who would you be? >> the lady on the ohio cover. i want her body. >> i want to see this. >> it's nice. >> i'm going to take a look right now. >> i don't want to think of allison that way. >> oh, okay. >> you two do your thing over there. i'm going to do the weather. >> i'm saying i just want her body. >> allison, i'm curious now. everybody's going to be looking. >> ohio players honey. and several of those albums. >> 27 in boston. 19 in detroit. 13 in chicago. seasonal temperatures today. mid 40s for afternoon highs. >> wow. >> allison. >> as long as we're fantasizing. >> future cast put in motion. >> it opens up too. >> sunshine this afternoon. i have to give people weather you guys. later tonight and tomorrow, cloud up and this coastal storm is going to take shape. this is early friday morning. this is our next chance for any measurable presip. could be dealing with wintery mix. we're thinking it's going to transition over to rain for many of us during the day. it's going to be a close call here as temperatures are going to be in the 30s early friday morning. so that could be a potential travel trouble spot with slippery conditions around here early friday. there's your accu weather 7 day. >> thank you, tucker. >> let's go to julie. what's happening on the roads? >> a lot. i mean we've had a lot to talk about for our commuters and friends out of fredericksburg. what we know is vre is running the 300 train that was suspended service is moving once again. it will bypass the leland and brook station stops. it will continue to make all stops north of quantico. trains 302, 304 and 306 will be making all stops. expect residual delays. we had a busted rail and derailed train. repairs are on going but trains are moving once again. expect additional delays. let's continue now with other elements. southbound i 95 in virginia. this is southbound against the flow. traffic was completely blocked off now. no one getting by south towards 286. now it looks like we do have a little bit of traffic as you merge on from 286 southbound out towards lorton. south out of springfield and head down in towards newington. traffic will slow. delays continue from the beltway. let's continue now and show you what else is happening out here. as you are traveling in the northeast. well below speed here. 16 miles an hour down to 14 miles an hour headed in towards northeast. that's a check of your fox 5 on time traffic. >> thank you very much. it is now 7 :46. coming up on 7:47 on this wednesday morning. and one of the most famous dance companies is back in dc. >> reporter: good morning to you. you are right. performances that are more inspirational than the alvin ailey dance theater. they are here through sunday. we are live as well. we're going to talk with one of their most tenured dancers and tell you firsthand why you need to get your tickets now. all live next. stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] we touch a lot of things throughout the day. so it's nice that clorox disinfecting products help kill the germs that can live on surfaces for up to 48 hours. ♪ feels sweet when i can touch you ♪ on surfaces for up to 48 hours. ♪ i -- i got it, i got it made ♪ i got it made, i got it made ♪ i got it made ♪ fresh at subway ♪ breakfast made the way i say [ male announcer ] at subway, you got breakfast made. like an under 200 calorie steak egg white & cheese. subway. eat fresh. did you know? alvin ailey's revelations has been seen by more people around the world than any other dance. >> i too have seen it. >> this week the kennedy center plays host to the heritage. >> holly morris joins us live with details. good morning, holly. >> reporter: good morning. i too have seen it. the alvin ailey american dance theater really needs no introduction. they've been an amazing audience for 55 years. and they even performed at the open of the kennedy center in 1971. and while every dancer is truly amazing. we caught up with one whose star shines particularly bright. >> welcome to rehearsal studio four. one of the rehearsal studios where performers stay at the top of the game and this morning we are getting the privilege of sharing dance space with the one and only renee robinson. >> the one and only? >> no pressure. >> you've been at the top of your game for 30 plus years. >> well, you know, i've been in one of the top companies for 30 years but that long journey. it's a progression. you come in as a new dance letter and you have a lot to learn. you get your experiences from being on the road year after year and you grow into leading roles. so that is a progression at the top of your game. but being in one of the top modern companies in the world, i accept it. >> she owns it as she should. longest tenured performer. >> t female. dudley williams was the longest member. >> and how long was that? >> more than 30 years. >> also you were the last dancer actually selected by alvin ailey himself. >> yes, each year when you wanted to become to alvin ailey, you do go to new york city and participate in the audition and mr. ailey was the director at the time i went in with my shaking knees and hopeful dreams of being accepted into the company. >> accepted with open arms you were and as we are in this month of february celebrating black history month, can you quickly just talk to me about the impacts that not only alvin ailey but his dance company has had in helping black dancers be on the global stage. >> it's more than just helping to bring the african american experience to the concert stage, you are absolutely right. but making sure that unique experience here in america are accessible to everyone. that everyone gets to have a chance and look at and experience those unique stories. his impact has been important globally and impact has been a joy full celebration of humanity from all peoples of all walks of life. so that is what makes it so, so special. it goes beyond our stories and reaches out and embraces everyone. >> i just love the passion that exudes from you. i can spend a year and feel it. we don't have a lot of time but you are going to show me something from revelation. >> yes. often we do children's performances and see the company. it's a one hour performance. teach them something they can do in their seats and once revelation begins they can join in. it's a clapping section from rock my soul. i'm going to give you the rhythm first. that's when you are going to clap. that's the clapping. and just rock with me. so this is what the kids are doing. they are rocking and claps. add the arms. i think we're ready for the music. >> okay. let's do it. can you turn it up a little bit more? i like the music loud. 5, 6, 7 and . oh, yeah, yeah. that's it, holly. excellent, excellent. for those of you who are coming to see us, when you hear revelations feel free to embrace it and get the audience into the performance. >> i'm going to feel free to hand your dance space back over to you. >> big thank you to renee forgiving us her time. she's a dc native. i asked her what she likes to do. she visits family and friends and likes to drive the monuments. she never gets tired of the beauty of this city. she thinks it's one of the most elegant cities there is. several performances here throughout the week. the special one is a fair well performance for renee at 7:30. there's another dancer who trained in columbia maryland. we're going to talk with her in our 8:00 hour. >> very good. we wish her well well. >> still ahead, the next generation freebies. we're going to check in with steve novielo for a look at the promotional premiums. >> believe it or not, time to think about your taxes and we've got a look at ways to file that will make sure you save every penny you deserve. it is 7:56. fox 5 morning news continues next. a turkey-cheddar-bacon in the afternoon, or a tuna salad when the job is done, sandwich on your terms with any of dunkin's freshly made bakery sandwiches for just $2.99. america runs on dunkin'. we gotta sell the car. where would we even start? 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and the mountain ridge district. >> tucker barnes joins us now. do we know why those delays? >> they had snow yesterday afternoon. little slippery to start the day. nothing here locally. we're looking at sunshine today. kind of partly sunny and mid 40s. >> a typical really early february day. >> very close to average. we've been cold to start the months. let's do temperatures. start with those. and reagan national is? >> 32. 34. >> 37. we've jumped. dallas was 30 just a couple hours ago. 36 degrees. looking at our radar last in a series of clippers rolling through. still bringing us cloud cover to parts of the area. the cloud cover road in here pretty quick. we should be in for more sunshine than yesterday. officially partly sunny with high temperatures in the mid 40s and no travel problems. your average commute should be nice and dry. 44 our average daytime high for february the 6th is 45. very close to where we should be for this time of year. >> very good. thank you, sir. >> let's check in with julie wright for a look at your on time traffic. >> on time traffic brought to you by toyota. >> i love how allison's voice changes when she does that. southbound i 95. there has been a change here in virginia. the accident activity just before the exit for 286, now allowing traffic to get by using the right shoulder and the right lane. big tie ups leaving springfield as those delays build. northbound on i 95 lanes are open. traffic still congested in stafford. traffic slows again leaving woodbridge up into newington. and 395 headed north up towards the 14th street bridge. no accidents to report eastbound on 66. a ride into that will bright sunshine. find yourself on the brakes headed towards 123. heavy volume inbound on the toll road. north of town, delays leaving 95 over towards georgia avenue. the inner loop of the beltway. definitely below speed here headed across the bridge back into virginia. don't forget vre, we've had problems there this morning with a cracked rail and a disabled train outside of the brooks station. vre trains are running with extensive delays. train 300 will start making stops north of quantico. 302, 304 and 306 making stops all morning long. 300 will not stop at leland and bypass the brooks station until further notice. that's a check of your fox 5 on time traffic. >> powerful earthquake tops our stories this wednesday morning. two tsunamis kill several people in the solomon islands. 8.0 quake damaged 80 homes. there have been more than a dozen strong aftershocks in the last few hours. warnings were issued but they have all been canceled this morning. >> back home in the district, the dc police officer is recovering and a suspect is in serious condition after a late night call goes dangerously wrong. officers responded to a domestic violence call around 11:00 last night. the suspect attacked the officer with a knife striking him in the back. the officer is doing okay. he was treated and released. the suspect was shot in the head by another officer. he remains in the hospital in serious condition. he faces burglary and assault charges. >> our big story this hour, a budget battle on capitol hill as the president and congress work to strike a deal to avoid billions of dollars in federal spending cuts due to take affect next month. >> melanie alnwick is live on capitol hill. no deal could create some major concerns here in our area; correct? >> reporter: absolutely. this is something, tony that the business leaders have been sounding the alarm on for a long time. these budget cuts were designed to be a hammer that would force law makers to come to some sort of an agreement on serious deficit reduction. but, you know, they weren't able to do that. we had the deficit reduction committee. that failed. we had the super committee, that failed. the cuts were supposed to kick in january 1st. got kicked down the road for 60 days and that's what brings us to another impasse now. here's a look at what the impacts would be here if the law makers fail to find a different way to reduce the deficit. those cuts were shrink spending by 7.9%. domestic spending by 5.3%. and medicare would take a 2% reduction. and for a region so tight in the federal government that could hurt the local economy. a study done estimated 448,000 jobs in dc, maryland and virginia could be affected by those budget cuts. that brings us back to the same old impasse. democrats prefer to raise revenues to reduce the deficit by closing tax loopholes. republicans say they want to stick with those plans because they say they've already agreed to tax hikes. they agreed to that at the end of the year. why another short-term deal? the president seems to believe that he can buy a little bit of time for congress to come to some sort of a broad balanced agreement on how to use a scalpel on these spending cuts instead of an ax. they are concerned. but many republicans say they are tired of going through this over and over and think now is the time to just go ahead and go with the planned spending cuts thinking that is the only way they are going to get serious deficit reduction here on capitol hill. >> thank you, melanie. >> we shall see. a new secret drone base this morning. the cia has been conducting drone strikes against al-qaida terrorists from a remote base. one of the strikes killed, the issue of u.s. drone strikes is expected to come up at tomorrow's hearing for president obama's choice to head the cia, john brenan's confirmation hearings outlining the president's justification for killing americans without trial. >> the polarizing debate over whether boy scouts of america could allow gay members could end today with a vote on a new policy. the organization's national executive board is meeting in irving texas and expected to rule later today. pits leaders of religious groups that sponsor 1 million boy scouts against activists who want the organization to repeal the policy. >> scouting is about teaching a substantial amount of life lessons. sexuality is not one of them. never has been. >> i don't want one parent to tell their sons they can't be a part of scouts because they are not good enough. >> at last check the boy scouts of america facebook page had 27,000 comments on the issue. >> today a dc judge will hear arguments on the news media on whether to unseal documents related to the levy case. serving a 6 year prison sentence. in the last two months, the presiding judge held two meetings with the prosecution and the defense over an issue that's in quotes there with the trial witness. but sealed most of it for safety reasons. the judge is expected to make some sort of ruling in court tomorrow. be brought in from an alabama prison to attend the hearing. >> a fox follow up. dc mayor proclaimed the city a success during third annual state of the district address. during last night's speech the mayor rolled off a number of successes that includes a 3% drop in unemployment. the creation of 28,000 private sector jobs in the last two years. unprecedented development and a drop in crime. mayor gray hopes to add thousands of new affordable housing units and create new opportunities for start up businesses and tech companies. >> and in virginia, a push by governor mcdonald to over haul the transportation funding. the $3.1 billion proposal was approved yesterday by the house. at the center of the bill getting rid of the 17 cent gas tax and replacing it with an increase sales tax. amend or kill the house version of the bill. in virginia is following maryland and dc's lead by banning texting while driving. senate and house law makers have approved bills that would make it a primary offense. you can be ticketed for texting and driving without having to be pulled over for something else. first offense would cost $250. a second offense, $500. >> ten minutes after 8:00 now on this wednesday morning. still ahead, saving you money before you file taxes. a financial manager joins us live to make sure you are getting every last dollar you deserve from deductions to fast refund offers. >> plus, new evidence. what police in alabama uncovered in the bunker designed by a kidnapper. 8:10. we'll be right back . remember that touching budwieser commercial? >> i can't look at it. >> melted so many hearts at the superbowl. the star of that has a name. anheuser busch held a contact to find name. after sifting through 60,000 tweets, the name hope came out on top. i like it. usa today named as the best in the superbowl. many would agree. surprisingly touching. >> at the end, i was done. i loved that a d. >> speaking of touching, tucker barnes is here with the my first 5 photo of the day. >> i didn't know where he was going with that. >> where were you going with that? >> talking about the baby. >> i went where i was going. >> time now for my first 5 photo of the day. >> what is going on? >> this is allison, everybody. >> love that name. >> look at that name -- i mean the face. >> this is 9 month old. trying to feed himself . >> he's so cute. >> that's a great face. that's a classic photo. that's going to return for his prom. >> wedding, prom, retirement. everything. he's a doll. >> all right. his family reports it looks like he's getting the hang of it. but perhaps he's not enjoying the taste. >> that's so cute. >> i love it. >> isn't that sweet when everything is so brand new. wonderful. >> he's getting taste sensation isn't he. to send us your child's picture go to myfoxdc.com and click on mornings. ellison, love the picture. >> great name. >> let's do weather. chilly outside but not terribly cold. 37 at reagan national . temperatures have bounced up. 27 in boston. want to show you warmer air. not going to get in here today. into the week hend and early next week, we will sample the 50s and upper 50s around here by next monday and tuesday. 61 in dallas. 57 in new orleans and 63 in tampa. there you go. warmer air. and again, that will be on the way here later this weekend. satellite radar, cloud cover to start your day. another clipper come through last evening. didn't amount to much. sprinkle or flurry and with high pressure building in should be looking at a nice day today. the clouds will increase and see the rain down into dallas and houston, that next area of storminess will pass through our region late thursday and friday and could give us a period of a winder he -- wintery mix around here before transitioning over to rain. got to watch that storm carefully because of the direction it's coming from. could cause us issues late this week. there's your 7 day forecast. 44 today partly sunny. clouds tomorrow 40 and possible wintery mix. and 50 with sunshine. mid 50s monday and tuesday. all right. that's weather and celebrating julie wright. >> a lot of things are happening right now. 95 has been hit with a couple accidents. three to be exact. this is the first one on the southbound side approaching 286. has traffic squeezing by. delays for this building from the springfield inter change. crash before you reach the harbor in the left lane. then traffic's on the brakes leaving route 1 headed up towards this scene on the southbound side. no accidents to report right now eastbound on 66. heavy volume as you travel out of centerville. eastbound approaching 123. lanes are open on the beltway. but the inner loop of the beltway very much a slow go again this morning. across that wilson bridge over towards route 1. for those that typically use vre. several problems this morning. a disabled train. that has cleared but also had problems with the tracks. vre train 300 is bypassing leland and the brooks station. trains 302, 304 and 306 will continue to make stops all morning long. residual delays. metro is honoring your tickets. that's a check of your fox 5 on time traffic. >> thank you very much. for many americans living paycheck to paycheck, a late tax return could be a blow to the wallet. this year the irs couldn't begin processing returns until january 30th because of the fiscal cliff and the new tax codes and congress's failure to act in a timely fashion. so what does all of this mean to you? cal brown is here to walk us through tax refund 101 for 2013. or the tax year 2012. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> let me start with this delay issue. there were changes to the tax code or whatever. so that has delayed things from the irs. is this a big deal? i got one of the documents i needed sent to me a couple days ago. many of us have not even had everything we needed. >> i'm going to say something shocking. the irs deserves a huge pat on the back for working so quickly. the tax return forms are ready to go as of january 30th. today is february the 6th. you can file unless you have some rather exotic forms like the depreciation form. so if you bought something for your home that goes on that form, you will have to wait. but for most americans, it's ready to go. >> okay. very good. we want to talk about specific information. it changes every year which is crazy in and of itself. let's talk a little about some of the areas where we can save money and optimize deductions. retirement savings. >> the big deal now especially with this new tax law is to maintain control of adjusted gross income. that's the number on the bottom of page 1 of the 1040. other tax rates like the new medicare 3.8% tax on investment income or the capitol gains rate depends on what your adjusted gross income. retirement savings all of those things can help reduce adjusted gross income. it's very important. plus, if you are at the lower end of income, you can kwaul if i for something i think a lot of people don't know about is called a retirement savers credit. you actually get a tax credit on top of the deduction. >> really? >> yeah. it's very complicated. you should look into it if your income is below say $57,000. >> speaking of complicated, tax preparers. are they up to speed and up to date on all these recent changes? >> that's a great question. most tax preparers use software. and the software companies are working very hard to get up to date. the answer depends on the software company. most of them know this is their bread and butter and the time of year they've got to make it happen. most of them are up to speed. >> job hunting cost. a lot of people are looking for work. >> as in many things in the tax code, there's a gotcha here. yes, you can deduct job hunting costs but -- there's two buts. that's to be in the same field you are employed in. the other gotcha is it's a miscellaneous itemized deduction and that is subject to 2% of adjusted gross income. your expenses have to exceed 2% of adjusted gross income. so many times, the job hunting expenses don't exceed 2%. so you end up not deducting. >> health savings account. >> i'm glad you mentioned medical expenses. that's a 7 and a half % and most people end up not being able to deduct it. if you use a health savings account, you can deduct every penny. because you put money into the health savings account, that's tax deductible regardless of your gross income. it helps reduce adjusted gross income because it's line 23 to 34 on the bottom of page 1 are the key items that can reduce gross income. >> takes money off. >> i use one personally. i loved it because i've never been able to deduct medical expenses.. >> you can't just say here's my savings account. >> there's a list online of what is acceptable. >> you see these ads for loans until you get your refund check. we'll loan you some money. usually you pay quite a price for that. >> they are expensive. >> i want to be sensitive how i say this. 25 years ago i went through a divorce and financially devastated. i was broke. and made decisions back then that cost me money. because of emotion. i understand it. i've been there. but these loans to get a quick refund are expensive and unless you absolutely positively have to have the money now -- if you file electronically, the refunds come quickly. especially the state. the state is within a week of filing. and i read that 80% of people are now filing electronically. >> comes very quickly. i do that. >> and if you don't have a computer, a friend or a teenager that you know might have a computer. >> but don't have them do your taxes. >> right. >> thank you very much. always good to have you here. they've got to simplify that tax code. >> that will happen after you and i are gone. >> allison, back to you. >> there's hope for me. okay. all right. it is 8:24. just a couple ticks away. knee deep in debt. still ahead, the cost cutting plan the post office is expected to announce today. find out all about the return to the district. we are back right after this. we gotta sell the car. where would we even start? get the car. hi howard. get in. hi, good to see you. start with an actual written offer when selling your car, no strings attached. carmax. start here. welcome back. 8:27. making headlines this morning . a 10 year old boy was arrested for bringing a toy gun to a virginia school. the student is a 5th grader at douglas mcarthur elementary school. police say he did not say it was a fake. the other student told his parents who reported the incident to police. when the 10 year old arrived at school, school officials found his gun in his bag. the child was arrested and charged with brandishing a weapon. and since been suspended. >> testifying today on gun control. martin is back in comprehensive gun laws including a ban on assault weapons and stricter licensing requirements. the measure includes improvements to maryland's mental health services as a way to prevent violence. 8:28 now. and still ahead, the crowned champions return. coming up in sports breakfast. >> who smokes most in america? find out the specific demographic lights up the most. we'll be back. some folks didn't think that our coffee was their flavor,, it wasn't their cup. if you don't like that dark 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is expected, not in england but our post office here. is expected to announce it will cut saturday mail delivery. we've been saying they should for a long time. >> i go to the mail box everyday. i get it. >> according to fox news sources, the postal service will still deliver packages. the move is one of the biggest yet taken and hopes it will save $2 billion a year. the changes will likely take affect in august. >> i'm all about saving money. throughout the month we are taking the time to share moments in black history. we have been featuring them as the daily cover photo on our facebook fan page. when you go there today, give you a little more about what you are seeing. today we're showing you a picture of the ship. this ship was called the elizabeth and on this day back in 1820 the elizabeth carried the first organized immigration of freed slaves from new york back to africa. the ship took 86 people to sierra lion. it was also partly funded by congress which in 1819 put aside $100,000 to help displaced africans return to home lands after the slave trade was outlawed. >> that's an actual photo. >> drawing probably. >> but when you go on our facebook page, you can see it. might be a photo. >> looks like a photo but couldn't have been in 1820. >> must have been the ship later. >> the elizabeth. >> incredible boat. >> it is incredible. >> we're going to do weather and we have temperatures right now in the mid 30s. later this afternoon mid 40s for daytime highs. going to warm it up a little bit and sunshine the last couple days. >> i like it. >> going to be a fine day. nice and quiet. overnight upper 20s, low 30s and right now. >> steve novielo had technical hours. he won't be with us. we showed the consumer alert. >> oh, that's what came up. >> apparently he's not the only one. 31 in quantico. >> oh, boy. >> frederick and gaithersburg as well. temperatures bouncing off overnight lows. should be a decent day for us. not terribly warm but highs in the mid 40s. should be dry later this afternoon. there's your satellite radar. last of our clippers moving through. and then now we want to focus to our south and west. this is our next storm. push to the south and up the coast later tomorrow night and early friday. when it's the month of february and you get a storm parked right here, you have the risk of winter weather. we do late thursday and early friday. it looks like enough warm air is going to get in here on friday we should transition to rain. could be a period that's touch and go here late thursday and early friday. here's your future cast. still a lot of question marks. here come your clouds tomorrow. and there you go, we're starting to set up that familiar wintery mix. the worst of it will be to the north of west. and many of us will get rain. fine tune this forecast. look what happens at noon. so definitely deep in mind early friday morning could be a trouble spot. there's your accu weather 7 day. 44. tomorrow clouds, 40. could be trouble around here early friday and we do warm it up. sunday, sunshine mid 50s monday/tuesday. that's a look at weather. back to tony and allison at the desk. >> thank you, sir. it was another rough night on the ice for the caps.. >> dave is here with a look back at the game which can be characterized as disappointing. >> here's the problem. if it were normal season, they'll skate through this. it's a short season. not good. >> only 48 of them this year. and we've already played 10. and we caps only have 5 points through 10 games. >> that's not good. >> and the other problem is not to get too technical. they are going to play mostly teams in the eastern conference. so you don't get the help from the west coast teams come in here and knock off eastern conference. so when the caps are losing, the other teams are getting points that the caps are not getting. 5 points, the lowest point total in all of hockey. when you have stuff like this, communication breakdown, that leads to easy goals that you just can't give up. too hard for the caps to get them. they got one here. first of the year . i was rocking the red. the boys are back. they are going to get rid. give me help. third tally of the year . this is the way it would end. caps 2-7 and 1. they have not won yet on the road. and again, only two wins at home. it was so hard to beat the caps last year. a lot of toronto sweaters. >> i don't know a lot about hockey. but alex has a new role? >> a new role and new position. >> i think at this point they are trying to push forward with the new system. i do think it will work. it does seem like they are in no man's land. very defensive style we meaned about during the regular season but worked in the playoffs. and now adam is trying to be more offensive yet keep the defensive principles. figure out which way they are going to go. forward and be more offensive. we haven't seen it yet. >> all right. >> offensive in a good way. >> out of the ravens yesterday tucker was up there sporting his purple. it was great to see. we kid about d c and baltimore. and when you get 80,000 people to show up anywhere, it's an event. a lot of happiness. they took it to the streets early and made their way over to m and t bank stadium. they had to turn people away. there's no game. just people in there to see ray lewis and the boys with the trophy. and ray did his signature dance. hit it one more time. allison has a good theory we'll see that. congratulations to our friends up there. did want to bring this to you in the world of skiing. tough video to see. all you have to do is catch the ski and that's what happens. back to being a kid. the thrill of victory and the defeat. and showed that skier. that's what it is right there. had to be chaptered out of there. she broke a bone in her right leg and tore ligaments. she is done for the season and not competing any more. >> wish her luck. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. coming up. a new tool for new parents. how hospitals 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look at this souvenir program here. look at this beautiful dancer on there. one, you are probably going ouch. that's what i said. look at that style and grace. that is impossible. except this woman is the one who made it possible. because this her right here. unbelievable photo. you had to be happy with this. >> i was very happy. i'm not always pleased with pictures of me but i love this one. >> i can't imagine a bad picture of you. talk to me a little about your training and becoming a member of this troop. >> sure. i'm originally from columbia, maryland which is close to the kennedy center. i used to come here and do programs related to dance and i saw so many amazing dance companies including alvin ailey here as a young person. >> did you ever think one day that's going to be me? >> i prayed and i hoped and i prayed and i hoped. >> it worked. there was a lot of hard work in there as well. we have some video of you dancing. how would you describe yourself as a dancer? >> i think that i'm a dancer who likes to invoke a lot of emotion. and i am very tall so i know that i stand out on stage. and i'm very leggy. i like to throw my legs up in the air. >> i already made the comment like my arm is the size of her leg. amazing. when you're training with alviny and i believe we have video of the studio up in new york and everything. what does it really take? >> well, it does take a lot of hard work and dedication. we tend to work 8 to 9 hours a day. it's a physical day. one of the great things about our company is it's a repertoire company. we learn from all over the world. you really have to be on it, you know. your brain has to be working at all times to learn the choreography. execute it and be able to make it up to par for a performance. >> i like the fact you brought up it's as mental as it is physical. i'm going to brag on her. this is also a smart girl. graduated magnum cum la de. as you are spending your life as a professional dancer and finding it important to focus on your education. >> yes, i think it is important for a dancer to have other interests outside of dancing. mr. ailey always wanted people to develop themselves outside of the stage. everything you learn you can bring back to the studio. and also for me, it gives me a rest from dancing. cause i can get really obsessive about what i'm doing and the steps. and it's nice to open a book and read something or learn something different. >> you know, you were with the company and you left and you just returned in 2011 and i know you've danced with a lot of different companies and everything. what is it about alvin ailey that makes it just so unique and like for you was like i need to get back to that? >> the company, there's something very special about the company. last night we had opening night here. and the response from the audience is so tangible. wherever we perform we get that response. and i think that's part of the reason why i'm addicted to being here. is because you feel something from the audience and you know you are touching people out there. and i feel that in a way, this is my calling to do what i do. to be a dancer. and i think there's a very important purpose there. and ailey allows me to do that. to share myself. >> is there a pressure that comes along with that name? that's a big name. >> oh, yes. it definitely is a big name but i have to put that in the back of my mind and just remember that i'm only human. i do make mistakes on stage. it happens. but i hope that people will see beyond that and will be able to leave the theater feeling good about themselves. >> she splits time between new york and here in columbia, the greater washington here. and when you are traveling the world. when you are home in columbia, what do you make sure you don't miss from the dc area? >> i love to just gist the special places here in dc. and really i have a lot of friends and family in the dc area. when i'm home, it's just to visit people and say hello. >> real quickly before i go, the last thing, when you hoped and you prayed that you were going to perform at the kennedy center, was it everything you hoped and prayed for? >> oh, yes. this morning i came in and saw my picture in the front and i just wanted to cry. because i remember as a kid just looking at photos of my idols and thinking how did they do it? how did they get there? >> she can be one of your idols. myfoxdc.com is our web site. we have a link. more with the artistic director in our 9:00 hour. back to you. >> she is wonderful. >> home town girl done great. thanks for bringing both of those stories this morning. still ahead at 9:00, the boy scouts of america could lift or leave a ban on gay members. join us live to talk about the controversial decision. >> plus, the results are in. find out about the new piece that's just been added to the monopoly board. we'll tell you which one it's replacing. we'll be right back. we gotta sell the e car. where would we even start? 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good evening. it has been almost a month of tantalizing clues and crushing disappointment in the search for malaysia airlines flight 370 and so the latest discovery is being met with caution and held breaths. an underwater signal, perhaps from one of the plane's black boxes, has been picked up by a chinese search vessel in the south indian ocean. for the families of the 239 people aboard the plane who have suffered so many false leads, the thought that once again the answer to this mystery could soon be in reach is at this point almost too much to hope for. nbc's ian williams is in perth, australia, where the search is being coordinated. ian, what 's the latest? >> reporter: good evening, lester. well, four weeks on and with time is fast running out for find the blag boxes, the latest reports have skbren rated some hope but also a good dose of cauti caution. the signal has the same frequency as that have that emit bid the plane's black box data reporter the report said they had yet to accomplish whether it is from the missing jet. it's also reported that a chinese aircraft spotted numerous white floating objects about 50 miles from the detection area. the search for the black box, which could solve the mystery of what happened to mh-370, has become increasingly urgent as its batteries last only about a month. but after weeks of searching, the chinese reports were treated with caution. the australia defense minister warn there had have been many false leads and a good number of them have come from china. >> they only heard this pulse for a minute and a half and the fact that they haven't been able to go back to that same spot and get another pulse, that's a big concern. >> reporter: the australian-led agency supposedly in charge of coordinating the search seems taken by surprise. in a statement tonight, it said that while the characteristics reported are consistent with the black box there is no confirmation at this stage that the signals or objects are related to the missing aircraft. the agency has asked china for further information. it's dawn here in perth and the search is now getting under way again with renewed intensity. the australian officials say they're looking to send fresh assets to that area where the chinese detected the sounds, lester. >> ian williams tonight. thank you. it was a foreigning point in afghanistan today as millions of men and women turned out to vote in a presidential election. president obama called it another important milestone as the u.s. draws down its forces there. our chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in kabul tonight. richard? >> reporter: good evening, lester. that this election even happened is an accomplishment. for weeks the taliban has been trying to stop it with a campaign of violence, attacking journalists and election workers and threatening to kill voters. but that campaign failed. despite all the threats, afghans came out to vote -- men and women lined up. >> we feel today it's really important. >> reporter: security was tight, the roads closed. president hamid karzai cast his ballot, but he's not running, banned under term limits. the next president is likely to be one of three former government ministers. all say they want u.s. troops to stay here beyond 2014. the afghan government says voter turnout was roughly 45% with around seven million votes cast. that's high considering anywhere else today would have been considered a bloodbath. a thousand polling stations, one in seven, had to close because of violence. 146 attacks on voters. still, afghans defiantly showed off their purple fingers, the indelible ink proof they made their mark for democracy these people are risking their lives to vote. they're doing their part. the question now is whether their votes will be counted fairly or is this all just for show? presidential candidate abdullah abdullah remains caution. he lost the last election in 2009 to president karzai in a vote that was widely considered fraudulent. >> the people this time around are very serious that their votes should be counted rightly and fairly. >> reporter: there are still 33,000 american troops here but today they were nowhere to be seen. earlier this week, we toured eastern afghanistan with major general steven townsend who said his forces were on standby. what are american troops doing to help with this election? >> that's a good question. actually, very much behind the scenes. the afghans truly are in the lead for this election. >> reporter: this was the first election afghans secured themselves. it was violent. the government nonetheless called it a huge success. but there is still a lot of time to manipulate results in the two weeks it will take the count the votes. it's unlikely that any of the candidates will win an outright majority. there will probably be a runoff so there might not be a new afghan government in place until this summer. lester? i. >> richard engel in kabul. thanks. a harrowing military rescue mission is under way tonight to save a california family and their sick baby stranded at sea. the family has set out to sail around the world when their boat lost power and they lost the ability to steer it. it's on unfolding nearly a thousand miles off the coast of mexico. nbc's miguel almaguer has the latest. >> we're totally stoked. there you go. >> reporter: eric and charlotte kaufman were living their dream, sailing around the world with their children, three-year-old cora and one-year-old lira. >> thanks for watching our cool video. >> reporter: along the way the young couple posted videos, pictures and blogs until they suddenly ran into trouble. after setting sail from san diego to the south pacific two weeks ago, the 36-foot "rebel heart" lost power and steering in rough waters 900 nautical miles off the coast of mexico a mayday call. little lira was seriously ill. >> this is what we train for. the rescuing is specialized in this capability with the combat shadow. >> reporter: the california air national guard and the navy launched rescue teams. but reaching the stranded family in the middle of the open ocean was risky. helicopters forced to refuel midair. then, after spotting the "rebel heart" rescue teams plunged into the water then boarded the boat. lira was safe but not out of trouble. >> she's stable but she's still critically ill. >> reporter: the kaufmans' extended family has been receiving updates but say it's still unclear what happened to lira. >> i'm glad that they're alive and that she's -- that my little niece is being taken care of. >> reporter: tonight, the navy plans to bring the kaufmans aboard this ship, nearly the end of their harrowing rescue. the family said to be in good spirits, though their high drama in the open ocean isn't over yet. miguel almaguer, nbc news, los angeles. three days after the shooting at fort hood that left three dead and 16 people wounded come the tough questions -- why it happened again and how it could have been prevented. nbc's mark pot we are that story for us tonight. >> on and off base, widespread concern for the families of those killed or wounded in the fort hood shootout. >> it's important to remember. if you fail to remember you're doomed to repeat. >> reporter: also front and center is the issue of soldier mental health. with portable v.a. counselling units in place and congressmen visiting. >> i think we have to do a better job of reaching out to our young men and women coming back from harm's way. >> reporter: the army says the gunman, identified as specialist ivan lopez was under psychiatric treatment when he brought the unregistered murder weapon on base. he's accused of killing stf sergeant carlos rodriguez, sergeant timothy owens and sergeant first class daniel ferguson. >> obviously we have a gap. any time we lose an individual something's gone wrong. >> reporter: it's been an issue for several years. in 2010, a year after the first fort hood shooting rampage in which 13 were killed, the department issued an independent report on protecting the force, lessons from fort hood. among its findings -- "we must be alert to the mental, emotional and spiritual balance of service members, colleagues and civilian co-workers and respond when they appear at risk." many believe the army hasn't moved fast enough on this issue and now see the latest fort hood shooting as another wakeup call. >> i think this whole incident is going to motivate the military establishment to find some way to identify much more quickly people who have problems and more importantly do a much better job, a swifter job of getting these people out of the service. >> reporter: the fort hood commander says no permanent changers and operating procedures have been made yet but they're under review after two shooting sprees now at the same place. and as officials debate the need for policy change, a fort hood memorial service is scheduled for this coming wednesday to honor the latest round of fallen and wounded here. lester? >> mark, thank you. the first funerals were being held today for the victims of the mud slide in washington state two weeks ago. there are new questions tonight about whether more could have been done to keep people out of harm's way. we get more on this from nbc's joe fryer. >> reporter: the deadly mud slide in oso, washington, took so much. >> never in my wildest dreams i thought something like that would happen. >> reporter: seth jeffords lost his wife christina and four-month-old granddaughter. you've lived in that neighborhood for 16 years. were you aware of any risk at all? >> not of that. >> reporter: the mud slide has raised many questions, especially for seattle attorney karen willie who specializes in cases about landslides. >> any time i first hear about a landslide my first question is has there been a landslide there before? >> reporter: in this case, the answer is yes. the same hill saw slides in 1949, '51, '67, '88 and 2006. >> and to have five of them? that's a lot of landslides. >> reporter: the river cuts into the toe of the sloped hill causing erosion and increasing the risk for slides. a 1999 draft report commissioned by the u.s. army corps of engineers to study the impact on fish warned of the potential for a large catastrophic failure in this area. another draft report in 2000 said the hill posed a significant risk to human lives and property property. >> was this known? did people understand this? >> reporter: then in 2004, snohomish county's own documents show officials considered buying out homes in the neighborhood saying the cost would be significant but would remove the risk to human life and structures. instead, county officials recommended stabilizing the slope, saying the landslide risk could be reduced or eliminated. before that could be finished, in 2006 a slide struck. no houses were hit, but massive amounts of mud clogged the river, threatening to flood several holmes. seth jeffords, who lost his family this most recent slide, was among those who evacuated as a precaution in '06. >> we're packing up our stuff and getting out. >> reporter: after that, records show snohomish county placed barriers in the river to help stabilize the area and many neighbors thought they were safe. >> they implied the that the problems were fixed. >> reporter: you felt the problem was solved? >> yeah. >> reporter: with the first of many funerals beginning and the search for victims ongoing, snohomish county officials are declining to comment on their past efforts to address a slope with a turbulent past. joe fryer, nbc news, oso, washington. >> when "nightly news" continues on this saturday, taking leave from work after a baby is born. how american men are getting the short end. and later, why a time capsule reveals about life in america a family secret left almost half a century ago. we're back now with a heated national debate tonight about paternity leave and whether new fathers get enough of it. it all started when a radio host criticized a professional athlete this week for taking a couple of days off. nbc's craig melman, a new father himself, has the story. >> playing second base, number 28, daniel murphy! >> reporter: second baseman daniel murphy may be used to be criticized for his play on the field. but this week sports radio skewered him for missing the first two games of the season for his son's birth. >> he gets [ bleep ] to your team and you play baseball. that's my take on it. what -- there's nothing you can do anyway. you're not breast-feeding the kid. >> it was a c-section before the season starts i need to be at opening day. >> the backlash was immediate and the controversy started a national conversation. >> we should have opportunity to spend time with our kids. >> there's certain seminal moments in your life you don't get back. >> esiason has since apologized but while there may be a cultural shift in the way americans view paternity leave, the law has not caught up yet. currently, 62 countries have laws requiring paid paternity, russia, rwanda and cambodia among them. not on that list? the u.s. the family medical leave act guarantees fathers up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave but only about 14% of companies offer paid leave. mine is one of them. so when my son was born last month i took two weeks of paid paternity leave and i wouldn't trade it for anything. it wasn't nearly enough time to bond with him. but even when it is available, experts say many men are reluctant to take any time off. why aren't more men taking it? >> i think they're still concerned that they're going to end up damaging their professional reputation. whether they'll the b passed over for a promotion or they won't get an opportunity to advance their careers. >> reporter: companies like bank of america, facebook, and yahoo offer generous paternity leave. but it will likely be a while before paid leave for new dads becomes the norm. nbc news, new york. >>. we're back in a moment with a new look inside america's long civil rights struggle. . you're looking at the sun unleashing a stunning and powerful flare. the remarkable images captured by nasa this week. they were just released today. solar flares are powerful bursts of radiation that do not affect humans on the ground but, depending on the intensity, they can interrupt things we rely on like gps and communications signals. this was the scene in ecuador, the volcano known as the throat of fire shooting a six-mile column of lava and ash into the air yesterday. the 16,000 foot volcano last erupted in february but has been classified as active since 1999. 46 years after the assassination of martin luther king, jr., the national civil rights museum reopened today in memphis hoping to bring a new generation into this country's civil rights narrative. nbc's ron allen has the story. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: with that, a new era begins for the national civil rights museum. it was until that unforgettable moment in american history just a typical memphis motel. >> martin luther king, jr. was killed tonight in memphis, tennessee. >> reporter: king was assassinated on the balcony of the lorraine motel 46 years ago this weekend and, like the powerful images of that moment, the motel was preserved in time. king's room, number 306, as it was for visitors to see, lunch, the day's newspaper still there. >> this museum after 22 years needed to be updated, needed to be engaging to a younger generation. >> reporter: 18 months and some $30 million privately contributed dollars later it's more dynamic and interactive and expanded beyond tributes to icons like rosa parks. new exhibits explore five centuries of history, starting with the slave ships that crossed the atlantic. high school principal kimberly martin says her students will learn a powerful lesson. >> overcoming adversity. they're going to know that whatever sets you back, whatever gets you down you can overcome it. >> come here and you'll understand in a very different way what this great country is really all about. >> reporter: russell watson and lesley more understand. they were seine station workers on strike back then who king came to memphis to support. >> we thank god that other people are still here to keep that dream going on. >> reporter: king's dream and the dreams of so many others are what this place that many consider sacred is all about. ron allen, nbc news. coming up, a man gets an unexpected gift from his late wife. what was found in a time cab pse that brought him to tears. finally tonight, inside the walls of a phoenix home, a look at the past almost a half century later. a time capsule details a different world and it's the remarkable discovery of who left it behind that's unearthing even more memories tonight. joe dana from our phoenix affiliate kpnx has the story. >> reporter: sometimes in life we draw up blueprints but fate has other plans. >> wow. i just think i'm going to value people a little bit differently. >> reporter: that lesson hit home recently for contractor john murray. see, while knocking down walls of this 1950s north phoenix four bedroom, john discovered the contents of a partially opened time capsule. >> we've done hundreds of houses, i've never seen anything like this. >> reporter: there was a photo of a family from another era and an open letter written from a future generation. >> this capsule is being buried on september 27, 1966. >> reporter: the message penned by a 33-year-old betty klug. >> the vietnam war is still going on. racial situation very serious. boys have long hair resulting from the beatle craze. >> reporter: it turns out betty's husband bruce, now 79 years old, lives in scottsdale. as john presented the contents of the time cab sewell to brupst was all new to him. >> this is what we found. there's a picture there. >> reporter: bruce was unaware his wife left this behind. betty followed politics closely. >> barry goldwater republican candidate for president. >> reporter: and then bruce realizes the date the letter was written. >> on september 27 -- that's my birthday. >> reporter: the letter would become a delayed birthday gift to bruce. ten years after she deposited the time capsule in the walls of their home, betty died in a car crash. >> i don't know how i did it. went back to work within a week. >> reporter: for a few moments on this afternoon the letter would unearth old memories. >> that's where we met, oak park. >> reporter: each sentence prompting a precious recollection. >> and she was so dam smart. >> reporter: time capsules provide observations about politics and culture but bruce says if there's a message here it's the value who you love because, as bruce will tell you, things don't always go as planned. >> we had the best marriage. not once did we argue about anything. >> reporter: for nbc news, joe dana, scottsdale, arizona. that's "nbc nightly news" for this saturday. i'm lester holt reporting from new york. see you tomorrow morning on "today" and right back here tomorrow evening. good night. right now at 6:00, store clerks fight back with surveillance cameras rolling in the east bay. what the police say about the vigilante vendors. another cal student comes down with a highly infectious disease. they're asking students to take action to protect themselves. the chinese government says it has a new clue about the whereabouts of the malaysian airline jet. is this the break they've been hoping for. good evening. i'm terry mcsweeney. >> and i'm diane dwyer. we begin in the east bay. two store clerks took matters into their own hands, instead of giving up the cash, they fought the armed robber, and it was all caught on tape. kimberly tere joins us from police headquarters in san leandro with more on what happens. kimberly? >>. >> reporter: diane, those two cashiers weren't actually able to detain the suspect, but they scared him enough that he took off and left behind his gun, which police say could be valuable evidence in this case. look at the surveillance video taken inside of the store. on the 300 block of east 14th street around midnight. according to police, a man wearing a ski mask, armed with a handgun, walked into the store and tried to rob the two employees working at the time. that's when police say the two
video. what you are about to see is extremely disturbing. >> the car proceeded to reverse, apparently attempting to escape from the blood he seen. in fact one pedestrian wasn't flung into the air after the car made impact with the person. the driver is now in police custody. one person was killed as a result. virginia governor, was speaking at a press conference sending strong message to the people behind the rally. >> i have a message to all the white supremacist and the nazis who came into charlottesville today. our messages plain and simple. go home. you're not wanted in this great commonwealth. shame on you. you pretend that you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot. >> julie: we have fox team coverage on this. kristin is in new jersey with the latest on the president's reaction. allison barbers reporting from the uva medical center. we begin with doug on the ground charlottesville were governor mcauliffe tells that news conference in all three fatalities today, a very sad d day. >> indeed it was. we came to charlottesville today not expecting to see much. it had been our sense that based upon a previous klan rally here six weeks ago that the white supremacist together here at emancipation park would have their say and then be gone. it didn't turn out that way. ultimately, three fidelity's. one directly related to the protests, the other as a result of a helicopter crashing later today at the end of the day. we had been watching it hover over our site. i kept wondering as i watch the helicopter white was stationary for so long. i've heard from pilots that been stationary puts tremendous stress on the body frame. with the helicopter crash i thought, i'm not surprised to see that happen. we don't know that was the cau cause. anyway, 35 people injured today. nine related to the vehicular crash. the mayor and the police chief, all implore the white supremacist protesters to go away, go back home. you are not wanted. we are a nation of immigrants. the police chief also said the driver of the car which rammed into to others then backed away running over pedestrians, is now in custody. >> the drivers in custody with drcharges pending. we are treating this as a criminal homicide investigation. also i want to extend my appreciation to the individuals who witnessed the crash for helping us by providing statements, photos, and video evidence. again, the crash remains under investigation. >> the police chief use the word premed in premeditation when it came to the crash. indicating there seem to be a level of planning. more to come. i was surprised none of the speakers made mention of the anti- -- protesters they want them to go home to. many were as powerfully armed as the white supremacist. many emerge to the scene wearing helmets, holding big sticks and placards, baseball size sticks with so many right supremacist suffering injuries as well as a counter protesters. >> julie: thank you doug. in the meantime, doctors treating more than 20 people injured in today's clash. in fact, the hospital was on lockdown. things are getting so violent. allison is live at the uva medical center where they been treating injuries. what's the latest? >> 35 people were injured today. none of those injuries were caused by law-enforcement. paramedics took 20 people to the hospital. initially we were told those injuries were related to the car crash. police now say nine are injuries related to the car crash that happened after one car plowed into the area where group of protesters described as antiwhite nationalist or counter protesters were gathered. the person killed was walking across the street one a car struck her. listen. >> injuries range from life-threatening to minor. the crash claimed the life of a 32 a female pedestrian at the intersection as she was crossing the street. we're in the process of notifying her next of kin. >> at least 35 people were injured today. twenty were treated at this hospital. fourteen of those injuries involved people who are hurt from individual engagement. >> julie: thank you. president trump reacting to the emotional day in charlottesville, virginia now calling for national unity. kristin's life in new jersey near the president's golf club in bedminster. the present was vocal on this on twitter and then at the news conference. then he continues to tweet all afternoon trying to tweet some sense into the minds of the haters who are continuing the violence today. >> that's right. tonight, president trump is condemning the violence. really continuing to call for unity. as nightfall nears, he is stressing that the number one most important thing right now is the swift restoration of law and order in charlottesville. >> we are closely following the terrible events unfolding in charlotte's will, and virginia. we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides. >> the present trump declining to take sides. he never once explicitly mentioned or blamed the white supremacist or white nationalist that are behind at least some if not the majority of the violence taken place in charlottesville. a white house official came out to try to clarify the remark afterwards saying he was simply referring to the violence that's taken place between the protesters and counter protesters in charlottesville. that's not good enough for a growing number of republi repubn senators on capitol hill. at least for have come out urging president trump to use more decisive language when referring to what went down today. senator or and hatch said we should call evil by its name. my brother did not give his life fighting hitler for nazi ideas to go unchallenged here at home. republican senator cory gardner said mr. president, we must call evil by its name. these were white supremacist and this was domestic terrorism. republican senator and marco rubio are on board saying and calling on president trump to call these people by name. especially at a time of president trump has shown his not shy about using very strong language when it comes to referring to the growing nuclear threat in north korea, possible military options of venezuela and very sharp attacks just this week on the senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell. a lot of international problems abroad and now this growing domestic disturbance at home. >> julie: thank you kristin. meanwhile, officials in virginia, this just in. confirming the deaths of two people aboard that helicopter. the crash we heard about earlier today. they are linked to the incidence and charlotte fell. stay pleasers in the chopper went down in a wooded area. 7 miles outside the city, late this afternoon. the state police are not confirming the identities of the deceased. the president confirming they were officers. president trump tweeting moments ago, deepest condolences to the family send fellow officers of the virginia state police who died today. you are all among the best this nation produces. i want to bring in virginia congressman. the present making it clear that the worst and it suspected that law enforcement that were monitoring these violent protests today were involved. what are your thoughts? >> thanks for having me on a terribly tragic day. i just want to condemn all the violence and hate groups. i've been looking on my twitter feeds and facebook comments coming in. i want to be real clear and the criticism of what groups are talking about, the kkk, some folks are saying i want to be explicit. i went to princeton seminary, home of james madison wrote the constitution. the judeo-christian tradition cannot be more clear, st. paul writes, there is black, white, there's no mail, there's no female, that's a tradition that made us the grace country on earth. that was in trying to the declaration of independence. thomas jefferson is the founder of uva. the school at charlottesville. he and james madison stood strongly were most proud of their work on that. to pay groups in the city taking on that tradition and everything we believe this country is a tragedy. i'll go a step further. when it comes to fascism and nazism, not season, i assume folks are well-educated but i think the notice anymore. the nazi project was called the third right. the third right was the third holy roman empire. hitler painted himself is jesus christ. so, when you make remarks and condemn these movements, fascism requires a large total state. so conservatives in the schools of jefferson and madison while the opposite. we want small, federal government state local governments. so we abhor these projects that are offered totalitarian control. the fact that some of these groups are called alt-right, that is nothing to do with it. all right has nothing to do with conservatives. everybody across the board has condemned the hatred and vitriol going on. >> julie: i'm glad you mentioned that. the outright has nothing to do. politics has nothing to do with this. the president what was called upon by many to comment on the violence. he has disavowed david duke, who as you know, is a wizard behind kkk. he has somehow used his racist group and the election of donald trump as a vindication or justification for these acts. the president has made a clear the white house does not stand behind them and decried them of any of this. they disavows david duke and his followers. but, apparently for some, many in congress, the president announcing this and coming up publicly not only in a news conference but repeatedly today decrying that bigotry and hatred does not have a place in our society and innocent victim should not have to fall victims of this. both sides are part of this violence. it's not a one-sided write it. rubio, among his tweets talked about the haters are agitators in search of relevance and publicity for vile cause of very few people support. can ignore them but don't give them relevance they crave. only with a win is if they can turn the rest of us against each other. very apart for the nation to hear what potus has to say. and he described the front they are, terror attack by white supremacists. do you believe the president went far enough onto crime what was going on today? >> based on what you say, i haven't kept up with his statements today but i hope you make the same remarks i have. he's in the judeo christian tradition. and that's constitution and james madison wrote that document. that's what we need, social contract for everybody. we use to assume that was the stander. we taught that in k-12 education. but now we have the albright and all left and right after the president won the election, the hard left came a in the women's march and i was getting comments and i got booted my town hall by 70700 people. their hard edge elements not mainstream republicans or democrats. we get along fine. me and my democrat colleagues get along fine. but the people who think they're powerful hiding behind keyboards, they are small in number but can have a devastating impact. we have to stand against that. >> united we stand, divided we fall. congressman, thank you very much president trump is putting a report behind the territory of warm after north korea talks about launching missiles.y nois) about launching missiles.y nois) the president is reaching out, next. 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to tone down the strong rhetoric. lauren is live in washington with the latest. a lot of folks are worried that this rhetoric will cause kim jong-un to act first. is this looking like a possibility? >> even as china calls for peace and de-escalation in this war of words, north korea threats to guam of the u.s. mainland continue. north korean state tv says their army is quote capable of fighting and a war the u.s. wants. and is on standby to launch fire at the u.s. mainland, plus state tv showing photos of thousands of military officials marching through the streets of pyongyang. military analysts say this is just a lot of bluster. >> why would they take military action which would guarantee the destruction of their regime? >> julie: secretary of state rex tillerson says diplomacy remains the primary goal. >> if for you get another movement out of the regime in north korea, think the president has made it clear, he prefers a diplomatic solution. >> julie: the president also spoke with the governor of guam that the u.s. forces stand ready to protect the small area. >> the president has been critical of china in the past for not being strict enough or north korea. where does this relationship stand now? >> and yesterday's call they asked the u.s. and north korea to tone down the back and forth. president trump agreed he wanted peace but also said the u.s. is locked and loaded. if north korea acts on recent threats against the u.s. territory on guam. >> if he does anything with respect to guam, or anyplace else that is an american territory for an american ally, he will truly regret it. and he will regret it fast. >> despite being the largest economic power and ally, china says it alone cannot force north korea to give up its nuclear ambitions. the president has been critical of china for not taking hard enough stance, china did vote in favor recent united nations security council sanctions. something both presidents called an important and necessary step. >> julie: thank you. dark day in america as white nationalist shine a light on racial injustice in the u.s. the president blasting the violence the rally inside it. but wasn't strong enough? will ask are next to guest. or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are humana medicare advantage members. no, it's this john smith. who we paired with a humana team member to help address his own specific health needs. at humana, we take a personal approach to your health, to provide care that's just as unique as you are. no matter what your name is. restlessness... extreme anxiety... pacing... a constant urge to move. if someone you know is suffering from schizophrenia they may also be struggling with akathisia: a common side effect of some schizophrenia medications. learn more at myakathisia.com. >> julie: president trumpofferie u.s. territory want. the president speak into violence governor by phone, telling him the u.s. is with you 11000%. william is 11 guam with the latest. hello. >> those reassuring words came in a conversation the president had yesterday with one governor. the first white house chief of staff, john kelly told us the island was well protected. that was reiterated by the president. he then talked about the islands increased exposure and visibility since being pushed into the international spotlight as a target of a missile strike. >> i just want to pay my respects and we are with you 1000%. you are safe, we are with you 1000%. i have to tell you have become extremely famous all over the world they're talking about guam and you. >> quam has about 15000 tourists today. mostly from japan and south korea. which is about three hours away by plane. despite kim jong-un's colorful threat to engulf this island in flames, tourists shrug it off, either doubting his truth, their accuracy or simply rolling the dice. hotels remain about 95% full. by the looks of the beaches you would not know this is the focal point of an international crisis. >> it is a crisis but to many of us we realize there's very little we can do. we cannot control. >> all the people here and join feel the same. if there's going to be a war, there's going to be a war. let's enjoy whatever we have left. >> it tourism at the lifeblood of wants economy. you can imagine how nervous officials and residents were when kim said he would make the skies rain with missiles, either they would be destroyed or their economy would be devastated. instead, tourism is booming. >> julie: thank you. back to the top story. president trumps speaking out about is that deadly violence in charlotte's will, virginia. saying he condemned in the strongest possible terms. i guess is a former correspondent of the white house association. thank you for talking with us. first, the reaction among the american public and the media as the media is reporting trumps response about what's been going on. it seems i was have something to say the way he reacts. many in congress have been reacting to him not coming down and condemning white nationalist movement strongly enough. >> i think you played some of the comments at the top of your show. senators and lawmakers from both parties who feel present trump didn't go far enough in his comments when he condemned the violence. he raised his hand and said, on many sites. some people feel that the concentration should have been on the white nationalist there were there and condemning specifically the hatred and bigotry coming from the. >> a lot of people are tweeting me that there has to be more of an acre on behalf of democrats. this movement as it began as white nationalist, the fed this rally planned for sometime. they had to get permission and get it cleared the city of charlottesville to have the right to protest and they had every right to do that. then you had the anti- protesters who came in and then it started to get violent. >> indeed, it did. i'm sure both democrats and republicans would condemn violence on any side. the criticism that has been leveled a president trumps comments are about whether or not he was specific enough on white supremacy. >> julie: let's talk about some of trump's tweets today area and one in particular, we all, and this is before you the news conference must be united in condemn all that hate stands for. there's no place for this violence in america. this come together as one. then he had a second tweet, we all must be united in condemn all that hate stands for. i'm sorry, once again he tweeted that in the went on to say that essentially there is no room on both sides. he mentioned there are two sid sides. the white nationalist that scheduled and the anti- protesters. what are people waiting for the president to say in particular? do they want him to name david duke by name for example. some might argue that by naming him you're giving him the attention he seeks. >> indeed. i don't of the people who are criticizing him are asking him to name david duke specifically by name. they're asking that he specifically condemn white nationalism and white supremacy is the root of what the protest was organist for today. >> julie: so moving forward, what can if anything the white house do or say in order to try to convince those who are involved in the protest that they need to go home. you heard the governor earlier from virginia telling people there was no room for the kkk. and these nazi types that came in and invaded a peaceful college town. for strong language from the governor. does moore need to come from the president? >> it's not my job to say whether more needs to come from the president or not. i'm sure the white house is looking at that. the fact that the president is continuing to tweeting comment in addition to coming out and speaking about it publicly when he had his event today, shows that he is watching it closely. he's clearly concerned. he clearly did condemned the violence overall. we'll have to see if the criticism continues a few specific or not. i'm sure the white 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a bronze statue of generally robert e lee. that sparked protests and rallies. brian, give us the background behind all of this violence and how it came to play today. >> this rally on paper was about the city's decision to remove the statue of confederate general robert e lee from a public park. was also about hate and racism. that decision was made in february. the rally was allowed in downtown charlottesville, only after federal judge, last night overruled the decision by the city to have the rally moved away from the statue for safety reasons. the violence today was predated by three major rallies there. last night torch wielding supremacist marchand college campus. in july members of kkk should travel to charlottesville for a rally who are met by hundreds of counter protesters. and private white nationalists also protested there. we've seen this nationwide. in south carolina, protesting they did over the fit confederate flag after the murders of nine members of a historically black church. then nikki haley signed a law removing the federal flight from the state capital. though the issue is now currently being debated in the congressional race. after this, it was a chain reaction. august 2015, university of texas removed its statue of confederate of jefferson davis. in 2016, university of louisville in kentucky moved to 70-foot tall 12020-year-old -- off campus. april and may protest in new orleans and louisiana, the remove for confederate statutes. but it was contentious. the last was a statue of robert e lee moved to the sound of cheers. there are an estimated 718 confederate monuments and statutes across the country. given what we call we can expect more contentious debate. not only the legislature but likely mistreats. >> julie: thank you. for more in this on the violence let's bring in dan, former nypd officer. thank you for talking with us. what we saw today was unbelievable. the level of violence the protesters had toured law-enforcement was startling. the fact that more people were not arrested after lashing out on police is remarkable. either way, the police and governor made it very clear today the death and injuries related to today's incidence had nothing to do with police brutality. >> this was an unspeakable tragedy. with that is a lot of the conversation if you're in social media now is seen everybody talk about size. the only sinuses, there's a side full of violent thugs and savage criminals and a side of other people who showed up to a rally. this is not a republican or democrat issue. every sensible, same republican or democrat would condemn violence in all forms. once you engage in violence you forfeited your right to engage in political activism. this is set on social media is blowing up. everybody looking to blame someone. we'll never get anything done if we continue to do that. >> julie: see this picture here, this picture was over twitter today. basically white nationalist on the left and anti- protesters on the right fighting back. there were two sites. the president address that when he held his news conference. he talks about condemning the hatred, bigotry a many sites. he's the word many sites. many people want to question every word that comes out of his mouth. what has producer comes out and tells us that a white house official has passed along an additional statement on background regarding what the president was referring to when he set a many sites. here's what it brett. the president was condemning hatred, bigotry, violence from all sources and all sites. there is violence between protesters and counter protesters today. it's important to mention there were two sides. >> but the president is making my point or maybe i'm making his. there were violent people to were attacking people and they should be condemned by everyone. i don't think everyone involved in the movement should be associated with democrats. i don't think everybody showed up with this rally today should be associated with white nationalists either. there are people who showed up from out of state who are looking to do harm and committed to violence. let's think about this rationally for second. what do they want the president to say? he came out and said i condemn in the strongest possible terms. if's people speak english correctly that means what he says. there are no stronger terms to condemn it. i don't understand what they want him to say. i don't remember any responsible republicans blaming bernie sanders for the shooting of steve scalise in the alexandria incident question i do neither. i clearly stated the skies responsible for his own actions. why are we trying to pin this on donald trump? i don't know what else they wanted him to say. he condemned it. and in the harshest possible terms from david duke it has nothing to do with it. there still people trying to make the connection. >> julie: thank you dan. we appreciate your comments. thank you.e. a navy fighter jet involved in a close call 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>> connected to across the entire country. a lot of grain in the last several hours stretching from new york city to atlanta. the east coast have been seen pop up thunderstorms. still plenty of areas where we'll see rain. if you felt the humidity today. the south, southeast have seen a ton of rain recently. this is last 48 hours. rainfall totals most people have seen some rain and some getting 46 inches of rain. heavy rain this evening in some locations. areas of southern oklahoma has already seen the rain, stretching into north texas. areas where wonderful flash flood watch is because heavy rainfall is moving through. here's your future radar. these are the cells i'm talking about that are moving through southern oklahoma. that will be drifting off. this continues to be a slow mover and a rainmaker. if you're in this area you could be seen substantial rain. it will take a little while to fall. eventually clearing off but we will see rain linger across the southeast for tomorrow. how much more rain? this is your bring fall forecast. you see it filling in. when you get to orange, red and deeper colors you're talking about six or 8 inches across these areas which is why were talking about the potential for flooding also what we have happening in the tropics. an 80% chance of becoming the main storm in the next five days. this went off the coast of the bahamas will be lifting up for the coast of the united states. even if it becomes the main storm machinery the models. it turns before it makes the u.s. will pay attention to it but i'm not expecting landfall. this track that's taken a center early next week. adam, thank you. >> julie: taxes actually lead the nation in the number of deaths involving children left in hot cars. the issue is inspiring this young inventor what he calls oasis. it detects motion in the backseat after the engine is shut off. it sends an alert to the parents mobile phone. it sends gps cordons to local authorities. when it comes to protecting hot car dangers one says why timing is key. >> they don't release the heat like the way we do. their respiratory system will be compromised and they can get into cardiac problems with irregular heartbeat and that's how they get into a fatal situation. >> if i could save just one life that's been saved, that's basically yes, it work. on that i be like yeah. >> julie: that's awesome. about 37 children die each year in this country and hot car incidents. that is a child on average every nine days. facebook founder and ceo mark zuckerberg is making headlines. for his potential presidential campaign. that's right. political experts are taking notice as he says he hopes to visit all 50s dates by years end. here the details. >> these days the marks zuckerberg looks less like a con looks more like a iowa caucus contender. he's got his hands dirty on a factory floor and a fluorescent best, something we seem from politicians trying to build a following. he's even let a few jump shots fly, a commonplace photo op. on top of that, his foundation has former obama campaign was, david plus on the payroll. they just hired former pollster. >> e don't tend to hire pollsters unless you want to know what people are thinking. my guess is the pollsters helping him understand the american people. >> if zuckerberg is political, there are hurdles ahead. >> to survive the democratic primary he'll need to appeal to women more than he's been able to do as a corporate leader. one of the criticisms is that they don't hire women and women's voices are suppressed interior internally. facebook's workforce is 35% female, and a permit over lester. if the company just, so does the ceo. asked if he's still in atheist hero quote no. i was raised jewish and then went through a timer question things. now i believe religion is very important. then came a commencement address that came and sounded like a campaign speech. >> how about stopping climate change before we destroy the planet and getting millions of people involved manufacturing and installing solar panels. how about curing diseases and getting people involved by asking volunteers to check their health data. >> the facebook founders worth more than $70 billion. on the facebook friend that helped to make him that reach could help them finance a campaign to. >> he has the infrastructure to reach every voter it in america. facebook has new functionalities that allow you to raise money through the platform. he could definitely leverage to his advantage. >> like president trump, his yearly salary is 1 dollar. on the president trump, zuckerberg is outworn enough to old enough to be sworn in for two years. >> julie: thank you. a day of madness in a small virginia town impacting the nation. we are covering all the angles of the white supremacist protest that ended with three people dead, including to local law enforcement officers. .. julie: america searching for answers after deadly violence at a white nationalist rally in virginia. an ugly scene in the normally picturesque college town of charlottesville. white nationalists fighting with protesters. a car appeared to up tension alley plow into a crowd killing three people. we warn you what you are about to see is
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tourists today. mostly from japan and south korea. which is about three hours away by plane. despite kim jong-un's colorful threat to engulf this island in flames, tourists shrug it off, either doubting his truth, their accuracy or simply rolling the dice. hotels remain about 95% full. by the looks of the beaches you would not know this is the focal point of an international crisis. >> it is a crisis but to many of us we realize there's very little we can do. we cannot control. >> all the people here and join feel the same. if there's going to be a war, there's going to be a war. let's enjoy whatever we have left. >> it tourism at the lifeblood of wants economy. you can imagine how nervous officials and residents were when kim said he would make the skies rain with missiles, either they would be destroyed or their economy would be devastated. instead, tourism is booming. >> julie: thank you. back to the top story. president trumps speaking out about is that deadly violence in charlotte's will, virginia. saying he condemned in the strongest possible terms. i guess is a former correspondent of the white house association. thank you for talking with us. first, the reaction among the american public and the media as the media is reporting trumps response about what's been going on. it seems i was have something to say the way he reacts. many in congress have been reacting to him not coming down and condemning white nationalist movement strongly enough. >> i think you played some of the comments at the top of your show. senators and lawmakers from both parties who feel present trump didn't go far enough in his comments when he condemned the violence. he raised his hand and said, on many sites. some people feel that the concentration should have been on the white nationalist there were there and condemning specifically the hatred and bigotry coming from the. >> a lot of people are tweeting me that there has to be more of an acre on behalf of democrats. this movement as it began as white nationalist, the fed this rally planned for sometime. they had to get permission and get it cleared the city of charlottesville to have the right to protest and they had every right to do that. then you had the anti- protesters who came in and then it started to get violent. >> indeed, it did. i'm sure both democrats and republicans would condemn violence on any side. the criticism that has been leveled a president trumps comments are about whether or not he was specific enough on white supremacy. >> julie: let's talk about some of trump's tweets today area and one in particular, we all, and this is before you the news conference must be united in condemn all that hate stands for. there's no place for this violence in america. this come together as one. then he had a second tweet, we all must be united in condemn all that hate stands for. i'm sorry, once again he tweeted that in the went on to say that essentially there is no room on both sides. he mentioned there are two sid sides. the white nationalist that scheduled and the anti- protesters. what are people waiting for the president to say in particular? do they want him to name david duke by name for example. some might argue that by naming him you're giving him the attention he seeks. >> indeed. i don't of the people who are criticizing him are asking him to name david duke specifically by name. they're asking that he specifically condemn white nationalism and white supremacy is the root of what the protest was organist for today. >> julie: so moving forward, what can if anything the white house do or say in order to try to convince those who are involved in the protest that they need to go home. you heard the governor earlier from virginia telling people there was no room for the kkk. and these nazi types that came in and invaded a peaceful college town. for strong language from the governor. does moore need to come from the president? >> it's not my job to say whether more needs to come from the president or not. i'm sure the white house is looking at that. the fact that the president is continuing to tweeting comment in addition to coming out and speaking about it publicly when he had his event today, shows that he is watching it closely. he's clearly concerned. he clearly did condemned the violence overall. we'll have to see if the criticism continues a few specific or not. i'm sure the white house is watching closely as the situation continues to develop. >> julie: he was very clear and condemning the violence there. typically when a president speaks on behalf of of a local crisis such as this, they need to stay somewhat neutral. he did that. we need to wait and see what follows. >> there are some in this case you don't think you should be neutral. this is different. this is different from other situations. and that's a rid of that criticism. >> julie: we appreciate your time. more at today's events in a moment. how did we get where we are? how did we 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being the source to the president who tweeted about it. the chaos and charlottesville highlighted its racial unrest. the latest confrontation since april the city council voted to remove a bronze statue of generally robert e lee. that sparked protests and rallies. brian, give us the background behind all of this violence and how it came to play today. >> this rally on paper was about the city's decision to remove the statue of confederate general robert e lee from a public park. was also about hate and racism. that decision was made in february. the rally was allowed in downtown charlottesville, only after federal judge, last night overruled the decision by the city to have the rally moved away from the statue for safety reasons. the violence today was predated by three major rallies there. last night torch wielding supremacist marchand college campus. in july members of kkk should travel to charlottesville for a rally who are met by hundreds of counter protesters. and private white nationalists also protested there. we've seen this nationwide. in south carolina, protesting they did over the fit confederate flag after the murders of nine members of a historically black church. then nikki haley signed a law removing the federal flight from the state capital. though the issue is now currently being debated in the congressional race. after this, it was a chain reaction. august 2015, university of texas removed its statue of confederate of jefferson davis. in 2016, university of louisville in kentucky moved to 70-foot tall 12020-year-old -- off campus. april and may protest in new orleans and louisiana, the remove for confederate statutes. but it was contentious. the last was a statue of robert e lee moved to the sound of cheers. there are an estimated 718 confederate monuments and statutes across the country. given what we call we can expect more contentious debate. not only the legislature but likely mistreats. >> julie: thank you. for more in this on the violence let's bring in dan, former nypd officer. thank you for talking with us. what we saw today was unbelievable. the level of violence the protesters had toured law-enforcement was startling. the fact that more people were not arrested after lashing out on police is remarkable. either way, the police and governor made it very clear today the death and injuries related to today's incidence had nothing to do with police brutality. >> this was an unspeakable tragedy. with that is a lot of the conversation if you're in social media now is seen everybody talk about size. the only sinuses, there's a side full of violent thugs and savage criminals and a side of other people who showed up to a rally. this is not a republican or democrat issue. every sensible, same republican or democrat would condemn violence in all forms. once you engage in violence you forfeited your right to engage in political activism. this is set on social media is blowing up. everybody looking to blame someone. we'll never get anything done if we continue to do that. >> julie: see this picture here, this picture was over twitter today. basically white nationalist on the left and anti- protesters on the right fighting back. there were two sites. the president address that when he held his news conference. he talks about condemning the hatred, bigotry a many sites. he's the word many sites. many people want to question every word that comes out of his mouth. what has producer comes out and tells us that a white house official has passed along an additional statement on background regarding what the president was referring to when he set a many sites. here's what it brett. the president was condemning hatred, bigotry, violence from all sources and all sites. there is violence between protesters and counter protesters today. it's important to mention there were two sides. >> but the president is making my point or maybe i'm making his. there were violent people to were attacking people and they should be condemned by everyone. i don't think everyone involved in the movement should be associated with democrats. i don't think everybody showed up with this rally today should be associated with white nationalists either. there are people who showed up from out of state who are looking to do harm and committed to violence. let's think about this rationally for second. what do they want the president to say? he came out and said i condemn in the strongest possible terms. if's people speak english correctly that means what he says. there are no stronger terms to condemn it. i don't understand what they want him to say. i don't remember any responsible republicans blaming bernie sanders for the shooting of steve scalise in the alexandria incident question i do neither. i clearly stated the skies responsible for his own actions. why are we trying to pin this on donald trump? i don't know what else they wanted him to say. he condemned it. and in the harshest possible terms from david duke it has 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rex tillerson has his "saturday night live" exit interview with the help of john goodman. >> okay, gentlemen. any insights into -- >> trump is a moron! i'm sorry. i done splurted that one out. woo! feels nice to say what i want. call "jurrasic park" because the rexie is loose. and good day, everyone. i'm andi rea mitchell in washington, where president trump's year-long frustration with the special counsel investigation appears to be boiling every. he's blasting newly fired fbi director andrew mccabe and james comey in a string of tweets and targeting robert mueller himself, marking the first time the president has name checked him on twitter. just this morning, calling the russia probe a total witch hunt with, quote, massive conflicts of interest. the president now heads to new hampshire this hour. let's begin with nbc national correspondent peter alexander at the white house and msnbc political analyst robert costa, national political reporter at "the washington post," and moderator of "washington week." peter, first to you. the president seems to be unleashed, but now his lawyers are trying to say, well, he doesn't mean to fire robert mueller, but boy, seemed to be getting awfully close to that kind of breakout this weekend. >> reporter: yeah, let's be clear. if there were to be any orders in terms of the firing of robert mueller, they wouldn't come from his lawyers. they'd come from the president himself. he would need to direct those orders to the attorney general. since he's recused himself, he'd go to rod rosenstein. at the end of the day, it's the president's words that matter most. that's why it's so striking to see him so unrestrained over the course of this weekend, lashing out a about partisan investigation, in his eyes, that he's repeatedly viewed as a hoax and witch hunt. as you note, and this is why it's important, now for the first time personalizing his attacks against robert mueller. notably similar the way he went after andrew mccabe a matter of months ago. ty cobb, the president's attorney, this weekend basically pushed back all this and said the president is not discussing, is not considering the firing of the special counsel robert mueller. again, to be clear, it wouldn't be the president who would do that firing. and you'll remember that "the new york times" reported several months ago the president, we understand, tried to orchestrate the firing of the special counsel, even pressuring don mcgahn to look into the firing of the special counsel before mcgahn basically said he wouldn't do it. the president backed off, andrea. >> peter -- bob, weigh in on what peter was discussing. how do we interpret what the other lawyer, john dowd, had to say over the weekend? >> these are lawyers, andrea, who have had a difficult relationship at times with president trump, as he has grown increasingly frustrated with this ongoing russia probe. my sources inside of the white house say that dowd and cobb are trying to rehabilitate their relationship with the president, speaking for him in part, at least his impulse that he's confiding to them behind the scenes. it's a complicated moment for the president's legal team as this white house comes under such scrutiny. >> and the scrutiny is very personal now that we know that there have been inquiries subpoenaed to the trump organization. robert, is that partly what might be driving this? >> partly, it's that. also, the white house and president's lawyers are aware that the mueller team is looking into potential obstruction of justice, things that happened during the presidency. so the president was already alarmed that his business dealings from the past were under the spotlight. now he knows his own conduct is being evaluated very closely,ing even come up in an interview with robert mueller in the coming months, should the president move forward with that. >> and peter, what about the propriety of the president of the united states taking aim at andrew mccabe in such a personal way for more than a year now? >> reporter: yeah, andrea, it was striking to see the way this played out. obviously mccabe fired, literally a matter of hours before he would have been eligible for his full pension. i just want to make one more point about this conversation we're having. i think this is important here. the president again this morning, in all caps, describing this russia investigation as a witch hunt. over the weekend, as he referred to mccabe and comey and others, using words like fake and fraudulent. but remember just a matter of days ago, this white house effectively acted on findings by that special counsel and his team's investigation. those findings as they related to interference by russian individuals and russian organizations, sanctioning those individuals and those organizations. so on the one hand, they're saying this is a witch hunt, it's a hoax, but on the other hand, they're using that very information, those findings to basically go after russia and in fact acknowledging there's something to this. >> indeed. peter alexander and bob costa, thank you both so much. wisconsin democratic congressman is offering andrew mccabe a job to help him qualify for his job. congressman, thank you very much. tell me how this would work, and have you heard back at all from mccabe? >> yeah, hi, andrea. thank you for having me. so we've definitely talked to his folks this morning. we're hoping to have a personal conversation, but clearly this is a very legitimate offer. what the president did was one of the biggest, i think, character flaws that we see in him. he just lacks human decency. it was cruel the way he did this, to fire someone literally hours before they would have got their pension. so we need to be a check in the balance of this system. in this case, our check is that we can make sure at least someone isn't going to be threatened and others threatened that they'll lose their pension if they do something the president doesn't like. so we've made a very legitimate offer to work on election integrity. it's a nonpartisan issue. and if andrew mccabe would like to work for us, we want to make sure he gets his pension after many years of service to this country. >> and would this be a short-term hire so that he has the additional days to qualify for his pension, or might he continue for a while if this is agreeable? >> you know, i'll tell you, i think it'll be part of the conversation we'll have, but we'll make sure that he's on at least long enough to get the pension. it's important work that we'd love to have him do with his invaluable background. but it's also -- don't forget, the president did this to try to interfere with the mueller investigation. he wants to send a signal that anyone who crosses him, he's not going to just hurt you, he's going to hurt your family, he's going to hurt your future. he's going to go after your pension. andrea, i grew up in a lower-middle class family. i still live on modest means, like almost everybody else in the country. when you threatening pensions, you are sending a message. it's thug-like behavior. quite honestly, paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, and others have to stand up far more than they are. i'm glad others also made offers. i don't necessarily care if he comes to work for me or not, just as long as he can get his pension. but we have to let people know, don't be intimidated by someone trying to stop you from talking and doing your job because again, that's cruel behavior and it's unbecoming of a president. >> now, are you at all concerned about what may or may not be in the ig report and in the office of legal counsel in terms of the substantive issues against andrew mccabe? >> yeah, again, every report we've seen, whether it be the fake report that devin nunes found then delivered to the white house last year or the bad report that the house republicans put out, every time we see one of these reports, we find out there's absolutely nothing. it's one more reason to try to derail this investigation. i'm guessing the same thing is here. this person has had 21 years of credible, honorable service, and i'm going to put my bet behind andrew rather than behind the president. >> and one quick question. i was listening to congressman hines this morning on "morning joe" suggesting there's an effort by some democrats at least to put this standalone bill having a backstop for an office of special counsel to be legislatively enabled as part of the must-pass omnibus budget bill this week. obviously there will be pushback from republican leadership, but is that a real thing? >> you know, it would be something credible. if paul ryan wants to show he's not on the staff of the white house and he's the head of a co-equal branch of government that's a check and balance, i would hope that they would rise to do this because we all need to send a message regardless of partisan affiliation, that this investigation needs to go forward. as lindsey graham and a few other republicans have said, we would have a constitutional crisis if mueller is fired. i think we need more of us to stand up and say it. this may be the best opportunity, as you know, in a must-pass bill. >> thank you so much. thanks for joining us. please let us know after talking to andrew mccabe or his people if there's a deal. if he's a new hire on the congressional staff. >> absolutely. it was your tweet that started all this. i just want you to know. we saw your tweet over the weekend. that's what gave us the idea. so thank you. >> well, that's interesting to note. thank you very much, congressman. and joining me now, msnbc national security analyst and former fbi special agent clint watts, and msnbc contributor chuck rosenberg, a former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official. chuck rosenberg, i know you worked well for quite some time with andrew mccabe. do you know how he's doing now after all this tumult? i think it was his 50th birthday yesterday as well. >> it was, andrea. he's probably doing about as well as you would expect one to be doing after being fired in a public way and humiliated by the president. but here's what i know about andy, and i think it's worth telling you. he's a good man. he's a decent man. i found him to be a kind and humble man. i enjoyed working with him. now, to your point earlier, i don't know what's in the report, and maybe there's something bad in there, but the andy i know, the andy mccabe who served his country honorably and well for 21 years, i'm proud he's my frie friend. >> and chuck, just to be clear, the information that was allegedly disclosed, he says properly, with authorization, but apparently the ig found otherwise, to a reporter actually was detrimental to hillary clinton. it was not favorable because it involved a continuing investigation into the clinton foundation during the campaign. that's one piece. the other piece is that according to a lot of reporting, this information was lifted out of a larger ig report and hurried through to try to get him out of there before his pension could kick in. so it's the speed with which this was done without due process, without his opportunity to really look at it, rebut it, et cetera. >> that's one of my questions. did he have the requisite amount of time to view the report, to rebut the report, to present evidence in his own favor, or was it rushed? here's where i think this may be nuanced, andrea, because i know a number of the career officials who are in this process. like andy, i've worked with them, i trust them. they're people of integrity. but was there unlawful command influence? in a military setting, the four star says i want andrea mitchell court martialed a court-martialed and out. it's in violation of the rules of military justice. here you have the chief of the executive branch, the president of the united states, saying exactly that. i want this guy gone. what role does that play? and even if it doesn't apply as a legal matter, it should apply as a malter tter of principle. >> and clint watts, let's talk about that also. mike hayden, a former general who headed the cia and the nsa, suggested that no matter what the facts of the case are, there was in a military context, not a legal context, but a military context undue command influence in this case. >> that's absolutely right. the president forecasted this months ago, and he did it through his twitter feed. we saw that this was a vindictive attack on andrew mccabe. it didn't matter what andrew mccabe did or what the findings were. they had an objective they wanted to meet, and this is the method they chose to pursue it. and the problem with all this is we have no idea what's in this report. if the attorney general is going to go to such lengths, i'm sure he knew this would cause a fire storm, as it did last week. then he should have disclosed that report. he should have offered what opr did in the representation, what they put forward in the recommendation, why he made his decision. right now we only have two sides of the story. we don't have the ig report. so it's very hard for the public to make much sense of it, other than if you have to go with president trump's word, which he forecast this months ago, or andrew mccabe's statement, i'm going with andrew mccabe's statement at the moment until i see that ig report. i think it would be very helpful, much like when we went through this process with the nunes memo, for the public to have something to base this on rather than cherry pick information and really behind the scenes maneuvering. >> clint, do you think that this is a prelude to -- you know, we've seen the president fire comey. we've seen him now pressure for the firing of mccabe. there are a lot of questions as to whether sessions recused in the underlying russia probe should have even been involved in the firing of mccabe. is this something building to the firing of bob mueller? >> every time i say the president won't do that, he goes ahead and does something completely outrageous. at the sam point, i think strategically what the president and his lawyers are trying to pursue is a discrediting campaign against anybody that's a potential witness against him. what we've seen both with former fbi director comey and now deputy director mccabe is they've both been ousted from their job, and they've been discredited. if this were to go to a trial or into open hearings, they could just point and say, comey was fired because of his handling of the clinton investigation. mccabe was fired because of lack cough candor. they can discredit each of these witnesses and have grounds on the record. this is definitely the number one and primary goal. even if the mueller investigation processes all the way through, many of the witnesses have now been tarnished through these actions that have happened in the public. >> and chuck, we're hearing from james comey on twitter. his book is about to come out. he's tweeting in response. mr. president, the american people will hear my story very soon, and they can judge for themselves who is honorable and who is not. comey's controversial. there's no question that a lot of hillary clinton democrats and other democrats as well blame his reopening the investigation into her e-mails for the way her momentum got stalled. >> that's right. i'm sure the book will probably not change a lot of minds on either side of the equation, andrea. >> chuck rosenberg, thank you very much. and clint, stay with me for a second. i want to bring you to texas, where there is growing fear across austin, texas, today after yet another package bombing overnight. the fourth to strike the city this month, two victims sustained non-life threatening injuries. investigators believe it could have been triggered by a trip wire, an evolution in the bomb maker's tactics. austin police are working with the fbi. officials say it is not clear whether any of the six bombing victims were themselves targeted. clint, you've worked on joint terrorism task force operations at the fbi. what are they looking at now? this is an extraordinary development. >> yeah, i was at south by southwest last monday when two of the devices went off. you could hear the sirens whirling around town. this is definitely a very serious case and one the public needs to be paying attention to. i mean, this is a sophisticated bom bomb-making effort that seems to follow at least a deliberate pattern for the first three. it targeted people in their homes. it sounds like law enforcement think they're connected to each other. now you're seeing a different type of device, employing the trip wire, which allows for more random targeting. it seems like it might have been a random target late last night. the sophistication, also, it seems like they've put out warnings that point to this person, whoever is making the devices, has bomb-making experience, maybe even military training, and shows some sophistication. i think we saw over the weekend the austin law enforcement along with the fbi and atf asking for the bomber to say what they want, essentially to come forward. if you remember back to the unabomber time, one of the keys was understanding his motive and getting them to talk, that way you can connect them both in terms of motive but in terms of persona. it's a fast-developing case and one that definitely should be on the attention of the american people this week. >> clint, thank you so much. double duty for you today. we appreciate that. and coming up, social insecurity. facebook back under fire for its role in the election. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. 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>> well, let me be clear. i left cambridge analytica before it joined the trump campaign. what i do know is that cambridge analytica was meeting with corey lewandowski in 2015 before trump had even announced and offering the services that i'm talking about right now. what cambridge analytica does is works on creating a web of disinformation online so that people start going down the rabbit hole of clicking on blogs, websites, et cetera, that make them think that certain things are happening that may not be. >> and in exclusive new reporting by nbc news just now, several key figures in trump world were involved in hiring cambridge analytica, including jared kushner. joining me now is nbc reporter anna schecter. anna, thank you so much. your work over the last days on this tells us so much, but explain to people what role facebook played and how cambridge analytica reportedly then used these 50 million user names to mine data that was so critically important or could have been critically important to the trump campaign. >> i think what's crucial here is that facebook knew about this breach. they knew that 50 million users' data was inappropriately taken, and they did nothing about it until they realized last week that reporting was going to be imminent, exposing this breach. and i think that's really the key point to take away here. >> and they then basically said cambridge analytica was, you know, banned from facebook, but according to the guardian and other reporters in the uk, they also threatened to sue, to block publication last week. >> that's exactly right. they did not want this getting out. >> so anna, this is a classic case, in contrast to some of our colleagues, of a major company doing everything wrong when it came to accusations as compared to the best case known in america of johnson & johnson way back decades ago when they had a tylenol problem and immediately withdrew all bottles of the potentially poisoned capsules from shelves across america. facebook is in denial until the last minute. >> that's right. i think facebook has been plagued with head lines over the past few months about the safety of users' data, and particularly in this case, it took them years to come out and alert people that their data was improperly used. particularly, i think it's interesting for this political campaign. >> let's talk about the trump campaign. when you talk about jared kushner, you're talking about the key figures in running the digit call campaign, which ran circles around the democrats' campaign. just what role they played and how advanced it was. >> well, the rnc had developed troves of data themselves, but they brought cambridge analytica in. cambridge analytica uses algorithms to predict how a voter might cast a vote, and they also do personality surveys to figure out what might change their vote and what messaging might get under their skin. so a certain type of personality, fear might work for them, so they'll send that political message for the candidate that is paying them to do this work, to get those people to get out and vote. >> let me ask you about the role of luke oil, which is a major russian company run by an oligarch close to vladimir putin and the kremlin. what connection, if any, did luke oil have with these major players in cambridge analytica? >> well, cambridge analytica had meetings with luke oil and actually sent research done with some of this facebook data. a contract was never signed, but there were meetings, and cambridge analytica did want to work with luke oil. >> do we know whether or not steve bannon took any of those meetings? >> no, i don't believe he did. >> okay. well, all of which is more grist for the mill in terms of the mueller investigation and possible connections. one of the things, anna, that we've been looking at ourselves is how could the trump campaign so quickly determine specific things about voters in a particular district in pennsylvania or wisconsin or michigan. and this kind of user information could be the key to some of that, indeed. thank you for your work. thanks for being with us today, anna. anna schecter from nbc news. and coming up, who's the boss? president trump unplugged. we'll talk to former white house chief of staff and head of the cia leon panetta about what it means for the presidency, next on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. you know what they say about the early bird... he gets the best deal on the perfect hotel by using tripadvisor! that's because tripadvisor lets you start your trip on the right foot... by comparing prices from over 200 booking sites to find the right hotel for you at the lowest price. saving you up to 30%! you'll be bathing in savings! tripadvisor. check the latest reviews and lowest prices. gas, bloating, constipation and diarrhea can start in the colon and may be signs of an imbalance of good bacteria. only phillips' colon health has this unique combination of probiotics. it helps replenish good bacteria. get four-in-one symptom defense. in a white house that rarely sticks to a script and sometimes feels like an "snl" skit, recent days have reached a whole new level of life imitating art. >> john kelly called me personally. he said, where are ya? i said, sir, that's private. he said, oh, good, are you on the toilet because i got some news. >> are you okay? >> i'm fine. i just -- it's just crazy how one day your the ceo of exxon, a $50 billion company, and the next day, you get fired by a man who used to sell steaks in the mail. >> joining me now is leon panetta, former secretary of defense and cia director, also of course chief of staff for president clinton. you never had to deal with the firing of the secretary of state in such unseemly circumstances. >> no, i didn't, san drandrea. i think we did have personnel issues, but usually when i brought those issues to the president, the president would make a decision, and i would carry out that decision. but i usually did it directly with the individuals that i dealt with. i brought them to the office of the chief of staff and the white house, looked at them directly in their eyes, and told them what the problem was and that they would have to move on. i think this white house does not operate by that kind of direct communication. >> let's talk about mike pompeo going to the state department. do you have any concerns at all? this is the agency you used to lead. i'm sure you have heard a lot about mike pompeo's leadership of it. is he the right person right now to be secretary of state? >> well, obviously we'll find that out. mike pompeo, as far as i can see, did a good job as director of the cia. he certainly had the trust of the president, which is important. so i think it is important that he would have a better relationship with the president of the united states. secondly, he is more of a traditional foreign policy approach in terms of how you deal with russia and recognize russia as an enemy, how you deal with other countries. i think it's more in line with how mcmaster and jim mattis and john kelly, for that matter, all view foreign policy. so that's a plus. i think the big problem for mike pompeo is whether or not he can put the state department back together again. it's been undermined. it's been hollowed out. for him to operate effectively as secretary of state, he's going to need some experts in all of these key positions, and that's going to take time. >> and what about gina haspel to become the cia director, first woman, first person from the covert side of cia since the '70s. but most importantly to her critics, including those who are going to have to confirm her, she was in charge of a secret prison in thailand and under orders during the post-9/11 period she was involved in the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques that many say was torture. >> well, gina's had a long career at the cia. when i was director of the cia, i worked closely with her and found her to be an outstanding cia officer. so i think my recommendation to the senate would be to look at her entire career, look at the issues surrounding obviously enhanced interrogation, but also put it in context. all of that took place soon after 9/11. there were a lot of arguments and concerns about what the terrorists might do following 9/11. so just look at the facts, look at the entire context of her career, and then make a judgment. but i think she would make a fine cia director. >> and mr. secretary, what concerns do you have, if any, about the president's response to the nerve agent's usage against a former russian spy and his daughter and other assassination plots in these recent years carried out by russia, by the kremlin, as we see vladimir putin now re-elected in a landslide victory. obviously not a free election. >> well, you know, there's obviously been a lot of concerns about how this president has addressed the issue of russia. and although they did take steps to put sanctions in place and i was pleased to see that happen, the fact is that this president still has a real problem addressing directly the problems with russia. russia is not a friend. russia is a foe. russia is an enemy. they're going to do everything possible to undermine the united states of america, as we saw in the 2016, but as we see around the world. their whole effort is to undermine the stability of the united states. i think the president of the united states, as commander in chief and responsible for the national security of this country, needs to be much more honest and much more direct in focusing on the threat that putin and russia constitutes. what they do in terms of assassinations, what they do in terms of their aggression around the world is all obvious to those who have paid a lot of attention to russia. putin has basically placed us in a new chapter of the cold war. and i think the president needs to recognize it and deal with that directly. >> leon panetta, thanks for joining us today from monterey. and one nation overdosed. president trump expected to announce his long awaited plan to fight the exploding opioid epidemic, but is it the right fix? 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>> i got to tell you, andrea, i was talking to a former obama administration official who worked in these very areas earlier today. she said there's not a lot new in what the president is going to propose and what is new, everybody's been talking about this idea for the potential for a death penalty for drug traffickers or drug dealers, actually sends shivers into the hearts of people who work in movements like the harm reduction movement. the idea that you can't help dead people when it comes to addicts. when you talk about giving the death penalty to street-level drug dealers, these are not the drug cartels coming from mexico. they're not the fentanyl distributors from china. these are people often in local street gangs. what you hear from critics today is that the president and his administration will be repeating a lot of the mistakes of the war on drugs of the past with a proposal like that. >> i mean, this brings us back, margaret, to some of the mistakes that new york state made in this war on drugs, where they disproportionately managed to penalize and imprison african-americans, inner city people who were drug dealers for a number of reasons, but letting off the suburban users. >> that's so right, andrea. it's not a law enforcement problem. it's a supply problem. but president trump doesn't want to go after the drug dealers and the drug companies that are flooding the market with these pills. and studies have shown that the problem is where the pills are. and you're going to make a lot of money sending them to small pharmacies in west virginia and other places like that -- ohio, pennsylvania, new hampshire. president trump has done almost nothing. he proposed cutting the budget from 328 million to 29 million. this is after a year ago wanting to gut the office completely. as you said, he appointed that 24-year-old who'd had a relative die from an opioid overdose. his only qualification for the job to that office where he did nothing. and remember, representative tom morino was the first drug czar. he gutted the law that would allow the dea to enforce against the drug companies to keep them from supplying these markets. >> and jacob, in new hampshire i remember in 2015 when we were covering the listening campaign of hillary clinton because i was on the democratic campaign. that was one of the first things she saw, and bernie sanders jumped into it as well. vermont's governor declared it a crisis in 2016 in his state of the state message. we were up there in new england. so this has been hitting not only new england and west virginia, we know, but as margaret said, ohio and certainly out in california, many of the places where you've visited. so it's across the country, but we've yet to see a unified federal response. >> you remember, andrea, it was the one moment chris christie had during that campaign that was that empathetic moment there in new hampshire when he was talking about people that he knew who lost their lives from substance abuse. margaret makes a great point i want to touch on. pills. pills we expect to be addressed today by the president in his plan when he releases it in new hampshire. but this crisis, what has caused the greatest drug overdose crisis in american history, and that is the opioid crisis, is not necessarily just the pillingpills. even if the president reduces the amount of pills being prescribed across the country, fentanyl, the synthetic drug that's come into this country from china, from the mexican drug cartels, is more powerful oftentimes than heroin, morphine. it's what's killing people across this country. unless the president does something to stop the flow of fentanyl coming into the united states, this crisis will continue no matter how many pills are out there. >> jacob and margaret. we have breaking news off wall street that facebook is dragging down the dow, apparently. it's now down 386. it's quite a drop in the dow. we'll keep an eye, of course, on the markets. we'll be right back. ou chase whe with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis? 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>> not me. >> not me. >> well, i mean, what is the propriety for that for white house officials? nobody likes to sigh these kiss and tell books. >> impropriety. it's a new day, not necessarily a good one, and ra, i mean, this white house has really suffered from even more leaks than most white houses have. now to come forward with this, i question legality, although i'm not a barrister, but it is just really a little bit unimaginable i this i. >> now, i remember how angry the white house was when robert riesch published "locked in the cabinet" maybe two weeks after he left the cabinet. so you couldn't have been happy about that. >> we weren't and i don't think any president is happy about a kiss-and-tell or a book like that. you've seen them both in democrats and republican administrations. it's a part of the landscape. >> especially one written while are you in the cabinet room. >> you wonder where those copious notes taken in a meeting and where they're going. >> it never happened when i was in the white house. >> you had dan quayle. >> the first bush white house was actually less of that than others. >> a lot more loyal. >> that's why we only had one term. all the lee, reagan, clinton, they did great. this isn't about leaks. it's so inappropriate, the classified information are you not allowed to reveal when you leave the office. that's precisely classified information classified by the intelligence services. if you want to write about it or talk about, you can say surely this is no longer classified. that's what exofficials do when they write secretarys of state. but the idea that you can't talk about anything that happened in the white house, two weeks or ten years after you leave and not just absencetive things, about anything that the president doesn't like in his personal capacity. it totally reverses the understanding of what a public service is and makes you a personal employee of donald trump, according to at least the draft that ruth ma cuss go. when i saw that i thought, that's ridiculous, that's impossible. no white house counsel would do that. it's very strict. they haven't denied it. there are serious issues telling a new employee who doesn't have legal representation, it's working here for the taxpayers, you have to sign this mda. that's what happens. i guess i have to do it. is that an appropriate way to do something? >> i think the stronger dwings between the mda and national security issue, you seldom see this in the corporate sector either. >> the trump family business brought to the white house. that peculiar procedure. let's talk about robert muler, they were implicit threats, it was the first time he name checked mueller. it's now the mueller witch hunt. not the russia probe. what should congress do? there is an opportunity this week to put legislation protecting the mueller investigation on the must pass budget. not that it's going to happen, what should congress do? particularly the leadership. >> i have been dependent on independence counsel, it can be a slippery slope, director mueller is a standing of distinction. andrea you saw republicans speak out strongly, including sharm tray gowdy and other, lindsay graham bass very strong. so i think it's now under active consideration about passing some legislation just because of the events as you just outlined i think a month ago that would not be the case. >> pageing paul ryan and mitch mcconnell. >> you can bitterly add to the must pass omnibus bill a sense of congress, that it would be inappropriate to in anyway impede or interfere or short circuit this investigation. it's a little hard to actually stop the president from exercising his articles of power and at least get people on the record. i think republicans would hope they would vote for that. some said they have said that. not all of them have. if i were a democrat, i'd think seriously about saying they need democrat votes to pass the omnibus him they could say they want some expression for the mueller report being unimpeded. >> i think we join in that quick. >> we have to leave it there. thank you both so much. more ahead. we'll be right back. thank you so much. thank you! so we're a go? 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a presence assad's regime invites international chemical weapons experts to inspect the sites of the alleged attack russia says it has found no evidence that an attack even. germany's chancellor takes the top ministers away on a two day retreat but kept a trip to the countryside and there infighting and focus their promises. i'm focused on welcome to the program big changes appear to be underway at europe's largest carmaker has released a statement saying that turnover at the very top of the company could be in store including a new chief executive to replace mathias miller the group board the shuttle to meet on friday reports are mounting that mathias modest success that will be the current head of the v.w. brand. green in the job since twenty fifteen of the company has paid billions in compensation in the aftermath of the diesel gate scandal actually selling more cars than ever. will get more from stephen because they. d.w. business while stephen diesel gates is a couple a years ago why does he have to go now why does the big man have to go. well thought think there's a lot of questions and speculation about this why this moment there's no one scandal that's happening that sort of roiling the press like there was in january with the monkey testing mueller has been the face of recovery from diesel gate you could say even though it's not out of the clear yet it has as you said continue to make record profits it's continue to do very well consumers have not fled it so why change it leadership now that is one of the big questions it's well known that mueller was not happy being at the top position i folks walk and he was of course formerly with porsche. part of volkswagens group and he was quite satisfied there a lot of insiders say and so he was of course the face of a very very difficult period for volkswagen and he was the target of a lot of the criticism that volkswagen and that in a way the entire german car industry especially especially the diesel industry was facing so do we expect. to leave the company or will he be shunted sideways that's also one we don't have any word yet just like we don't have any official confirmation that this is taking place we have a lot of strong insider sources saying that this is what's going to happen we don't know exactly where miller is going to go and i think that will be one of the questions moving ahead as well. ok tell us about d.c. he comes with something of a reputation doesn't he does his reputation is that of a cost killer a cost cutter he's known as a numbers man he can be ice cold when it comes to balancing the books for volkswagen if you're looking at the future if you're trying to put diesel gate behind you this might be the guy that you want there now in terms of bringing a younger perspective or anything like that for miller that's not really in the books here he's fifty nine b. a little b. sixty five in june they're both about the same age. same generation they've had the same experience in the german auto industry to both very experienced very worldly so it's not going to change in that manner but in terms of just cleanly cutting the books focusing on the numbers has a lot of its plate right now it's trying to really kick off its electric car operations its investment in china it's doubling down on all of these areas in needs to move forward with especially as diesel becomes more and more. sort of the unwanted car model in europe and elsewhere briefly the markets seem to be reacting quite positively to this news that's right and again i think in the shadow of diesel get in there again there still is that shadow of diesel gate there's a lot that still is going on still can happen i think restructuring is probably seen as a very positive thing as perhaps v.w. saying let's close this book let's move forward and let's focus on someone who's going to take us to the future stephen bisley thank you so much. to the conflict in syria where russia has called for international with chemical weapons was shocked to inspect the site of an alleged poison gas attack america's threatened to respond to the attack with the military action opposition activists say gas was used to kill dozens of people near damascus at the weekend they blame the syrian government which denies any involvement. did these bombs dropped on the last rebel held area near the syrian capital damascus contained chemical weapons the answer could be cause for escalation in the conflict there most of all between the united states and russia. the two global powers faced off at the united nations security council in new york. russia's obstructionism will not continue to hold us hostage when we are confronted with an attack like this one the united states is determined to see the monster who dropped chemical weapons on the syrian people held to account yet. i call upon those slandering the regime to move forward with the assumption that there was no chemical weapons attack. no russian troops have been deployed in syria at the request of religious image government of a country we already conveyed to the u.s. side that armed force under false pretext against syria could lead to grave repercussions. aid workers say chlorine gas killed at least forty people and injured many more in duma the u.s. and its allies want an investigation into what happened there but the u.s. may go further than an inquiry history will record this as the moment when the security council either discharged its duty or demonstrated its utter and complete failure to protect the people of syria either way the united states will respond. that response could look like this last year following another suspected chemical attack u.s. president donald trump ordered cruise missile strikes against a syrian air base trump says military options are again on the table and action of some sort could come soon. let's hear more from data because phones and you're a shutter in moscow welcome your a so we have doctors aid workers in mali is in the area saying that chemical weapons were used russia says not based on what. well it must go into it rejects any responsibility or russia's evidence is there the others have no evidence according to the motto show us first that we are really to blame and then we'll defend ourselves the same strategy old tactic by the way they had in the case of the poisoned russian agents strip out in the case russia's u.n. ambassador the. sad that he's country had sent by the way investigators to do mark over the weekend and they found no evidence for potential use of chlorine in a alleged attack also russia emphasized that experts from the united nations good and verify the use of chemical weapons. so between reactions to this attack u.s. sanctions to punish moscow's interference in the twenty sixteen election and u.s. reprisals for the u.k. a nerve agent attack it does look as though u.s. russia relations have reached a new low why it's absolutely but meanwhile if there were plenty of flaws in the russian american relations at least on their rhetoric level field here in moscow after the victory of donald trump there was of course some hope he could improve the situation between the two countries either the russian politicians were blue eyed or they simply didn't want to believe that the relations would only get worse it's astonishing how quickly the new law seems to be reached given that only a week ago moscow and washington agreed on a potential summit meeting of mr putin and mr trump and the u.s. capitol in the very next future but these plans seems now to be outdated and how is this control the server of these alleged chemical weapons how is this playing out in russian media how much of the picture russians getting. well look all this happens at the time when moscow has big financial difficulties and that is the real problem of the russians are facing now that this is the really . used number one here the ruble collapsed since yesterday because of the new us sections the accusations in the case of the poisoned russian double agents are just people and his daughter in the u.k. are still on the table but in the russian media of course we see a very different picture this article of any miss from the best is getting closer and moscow has now one reasonable more to defend itself this is the well known rationality. euro shatter in moscow thank you now let's take a look at some of the other stories making news around the world u.s. president donald trump has called an f.b.i. raid on the office of his personal moral disgraceful yes b i searched the offices of attorney michael cohen was saying it was acting on the referral by special counsel robert muller who is conducting an investigation into russia's alleged meddling in the twenty sixth u.s. presidential election. saying in america facebook c.e.o. mark zuckerberg will appear on u.s. lawmakers on capitol hill later he's expected to face a grilling over data privacy issues this amidst revill revelations that data belong to something like eighty seven million users was improperly accessed by a political consultant say cambridge analytical and used to help put donald trump into the white house north korea's leader kim jong un has made his first official a mention of possible talks with the united states according to state media fortunately met with top party officials and discussed the prospect of dialogue u.s. president trump person agrees to meet him as soon as next month no date or venue has yet been set. now germany's chancellor angela merkel has recovered her carpet for a two day retreat to hammer out the details of a government program over the coming months the meeting is taking place outside berlin some of the most pressing issues on the table include drafting a new budget reforming germany's refugee policy and minimizing the damage to the country's car industry in the wake of the diesel emissions scandal. d.w. a chief political editor of the hill i know is that welcome became what's the chancellor hoping to achieve over the next couple of days. well the biggest achievement she could really secure here is to actually get her cabinet to act as one team less than a month into the full term that she's now serving as german chancellor she already has a team or a lot of infighting on her hands particularly that issue of migration and particularly the union of family members who have secured silence in germany with members who are still abroad has become a bone of contention almost traditionally between the social democrat coalition partner and his cd you particularly see is union and with haas the will for the former c.s.u. leader now being the interior minister here in germany he also has an agenda to push after all there are elections coming up of the various a lot of domestic politics here playing into this and a cabinet that isn't quite often running with all those pressing international challenges that we've seen over eighty. three in the background syria of the united states just to name a few yes there is an international dimension to this meeting with the nato secretary general and you commission president. are also invited. absolutely and this clearly is setting the tone that there are greater challenges to face that it's not just although this is a big task about securing prosperity here in germany also quelling fears of many people who are concerned about their jobs in a more digital future but that their largest to teach issues at play particularly with install some back who already met germany's foreign minister in berlin ahead of coming here and of course his own told you he will be only too happy it to talk about that first big chapter of the coalition deal that somewhat marks the really the script for this upcoming government and how germany wants to flesh that out and what kind of response there will be to this grand vision mapped out by a man on the call the french president so something a lot to talk about 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president's personal attorney we learned yesterday, mike the cohen, got hired three days into the trump administration, to help at&t on its merger that the president said he was going to kill and he racked up a total of nearly $3 million from them, and other corporate clients. drain the swamp? what about all of those trump cabinet expenses? drain the swamp? like, drain it with what? ben carson's $31,000 dining set? the $139,000 that ryan zinke spent on doors? let me say that again. let me -- let me say that again, for those of you who were working around the clock, night and day, to try to get your kids, to be able to do better than you have done, like my parents tried to do with me? like it's our dream -- think about your salary, think about the fact that ryan zinke spent $139,000 on doors. what about scott pruitt? he had luxury flights and sweetheart condo deals from a lobbyist. and don't forget secretary mnuchin took a government jet that you paid for, a government jet that your taxes paid for, along with his wife, to watch the eclipse atop fort knox's stack of gold. drain the swamp? what a joke. and i guess this joke stops being funny for donald trump, who is basically using us all for suckers in his cabinet. who are all using us all for suckers. when we actually start investigating why a guy like michael cohen, who basically isn't even a practicing lawyer according to what most court records have said and documents have said, michael cohen got paid $600,000 to deal with one of the most complicated mergers and most significant mergers in recent history. mergers and acquisitions. is he a mergers and acquisitions lawyer? no. he's a street fighter. that was just a direct pay-off. that was just a direct bribe. and the bigger question for at&t? the bigger question for time warner, the bigger question for their stockholders is, whether this entire deal is frozen up. because there has to be an investigation. that money really go to cohen? did it go through cohen and go straight to the president's pockets? where did it go? did it go to pay off other porn stars? other playboy bunnies? where did the money go? and how does any government agency allow the at&t merger to go through as long as this isn't being investigated? well welcome to the show. it's a wind-up and a delivery and a pitch. this is who we have with us, national affairs analyst for nbc news and msnbc and executive producer and co-host of showtime's "the circus," jon heilemann. and donny deutsch with us, he's an advertising legend and a hero. and republican strategist and commentator, susan del pursio and economic analyst steve rattner and washington, d.c., nbc news reporter heidi przybilla and "new york times" reporter michael schmidt. mika has the morning off. will be talking to michael about rudy giuliani's law firm elbowing him out of the way. because they were embarrassed of what he did on tv. and because firm members by thursday just had enough. willie, listen, this -- i know washington, i've been around it for a quarter of a century. i understand that -- some congressmen, some senators, some members of the administration, former members of the administration, they get paid by lobbyists to make good with the white house. but i've never heard of anything like a $600,000 payment to a guy that knows nothing about mergers, knows nothing about acquisitions. $600,000 to make this at&t deal go through. they admitted that yesterday. to make the at&t deal go through. and my question is, where did that money go through to? because i highly doubt that donald trump would let it sit in michael cohen's account. >> well remember donald trump during the dpan had come out very strongly against the at&t/time warner merger. so at&t had reason to be concerned when donald trump was going to be elected. michael cohen is not a lobbyist. he's not a registered lobbyist. this was a payment to a guy they thought had the ear of donald trump. might be able to put his thumb on the scale. and make the deal go through. a new report says on the very first business day of the trump administration, the president's personal attorney, michael cohen, signed a contract with at&t to receive $600,000 to consult on long-term planning as well as its pending merger with time warner, which the justice department eventually sued to block last november. documents obtained by the "washington post" show cohen made the deal on january 23rd, 2017. within three days of president trump's inauguration. and just four days after cohen publicly announced he would represent trump as president, and would resign from the trump administration, the organization to avoid a quote perceived conflict. at&t says it paid cohen for insights, but the "post" found it unclear what insight cohen, a long-time real estate attorney and former taxi cab operator could have provided at&t on complex telecom matters. the health care news site stat reports that the $1.2 million novartis paid cohen's company is almost four times more, four times more than it paid any actual outside lobbyists in the same period of time. a novartis spokesman responded that cohen was a hired consultant and not a lobbyist. and the consulting fees were in line with market terms for consultancy and advisory. joe? >> yeah, lots of luck on that. proving that to your shareholders. jon heilemann, everything just seems to keep exploding out there. surrounding, we have more stories coming out every day about michael cohen. more stories coming out every day about payoffs to michael cohen. michael avenatti releasing letters, releasing emails. my question, my question is, first of all, where do you think all of this is coming from? all the information is coming from? and secondly, how impactful is it going to be, the $600,000 payoff to michael cohen and whoever michael cohen went ahead and passed the money through. and how does that impact at&t in the merger? >> well a lot of questions there. the first thing i would say, to answer the question where it's coming from, joe, i don't know the answer. but i'll say this having spent some time with michael avenatti on "the circus" a couple of episodes ago and a lot of time this week, one thing as a basic human observation, you walk around new york city, washington, d.c., los angeles, with the guy, and he is being treated by a fair segment-the-public as a hero. he's got become a celebrity. and in the same way that you've seen bob mueller venerated by the half of the country that wants to see donald trump thrown out of office, you now have a popular view that this guy is like bob mueller, kind of their hope for changing the course of the country. when you get that kind of popular support, where there's people out there rooting for you, you become a television celebrity and you're seen as a political figure, you start to get information from a lot of different sources. people start to want to feed you stuff. some of it is bunk. some of it might not be bunk. and i think he's right now with his firm, inundated with people who are sending him tips, leads, documents. all kinds of things. i don't know what the sources are, but i know there's a groundswell of people out there who see him as a vehicle and a repository for stuff. so that's one thing. the second thing is i think that this notion that michael cohen's llc, this llc, essential consulting, basically looks like a giant slush fund for influence peddling, some of it from foreign sources, some of it from domestic sources, some of it corporate, some of it other, there's a big story here. and we're all interested in the sources of the money. but the larger questions now are going to be, and there are things that reporters are going to chase for days and weeks to come, is what did the money get spent on? you raised this in your opening statement. the question of, how was it used? who got the payments? that's going to be a fruitful line of inquiry for journalists and investigators going forward. and as to the at&t thing, i will say i just think that there is, i don't want to be naive about this one point. which is -- big companies in america buy influence in american politics. i, a lot of people don't like that. but we have a system of organized bribery, corruption in this country, that lives in washington, d.c. that has to do with pacs and lobbyists and everything else and there were a lot of companies scrambling around with their hair on fire when donald trump got elected, trying to figure out how do we get to this guy? how do we influence this guy? the normal ways of doing business aren't going to work. so they turn to michael cohen. as an explanation for what happened, i think that's what happened. and clearly at&t was one of those companies. >> boy, and it's an, like i said, it happens. but this is so much more than most lobbyists get. and again, donny, the question is, is that really money that stayed with michael cohen? did it go through a slush fund? you've known michael for a very long time. we both know trump. i find it very hard to believe that donald trump would take a meeting from anybody. i find it impossible to believe that donald trump would take a meeting from anybody, as a favor to michael cohen, knowing that michael cohen was going to make $600,000 off of him, taking that meeting. and you're sitting there laughing for the same reason. anybody -- it's just absolutely preposterous. donald trump would not have allowed michael cohen to make $600,000 on his back. because of an at&t meeting. >> yeah, i spoke to michael yesterday. and michael first of all, said that basically these companies reached out to him this is according to michael. and said look, there's one thing about this guy, this president, and he says that just if you're a company doing -- this is michael -- if you're a company doing business with him, nobody knows how he's going to react. nobody understands the mind of donald trump. his kids do and i'm probably next in line and he believes that's valuable to companies. that's michael's point of view. whether that money was going to trump, all i can say is this and clearly i have no knowledge of that, is that every time i think why would this guy who is worth $1 billion, he says 10, be getting involved in trump university to get an extra $100 in his pocket. could this president possibly say, wow, maybe i can make an extra few hundred grand by getting these -- you go that's not possible. but then you go of course it's possible. clearly none of us know the answer to that. michael, as i said, he, when i spoke to him yesterday, he said i'm still in a fighting mood, he said corey lewandoski got $2 million. whether or not we think it's sleazy, the big questions are, did any of it go back to trump? and let us not get head-faked away from russia. because we'll still always come back to the russian money. i think it's a bit of a sidebar. to heilemann's explanation, it's one more demonstration unfortunately as to the way that washington works. and a comment over avenatti, i'm feeling over the last few days, he feels like he's jumping the shark a little bit. we've all watched the media a bit. and obviously he's done a lot of interesting things, if i'm managing michael avenatti at this point, i wouldn't be on the hour six hours a day. you're starting to feel as somebody who is in the media and watching the media, a guy who is a losing a little sight of where he is of the position he's in. and you almost get the feeling he's already auditions for jeff zucker and phil griffin for his next tv spot. if i was managing his brand a little bit -- i think less is more. >> donny, he's getting under trump's skin. >> correct. >> and doing what trump always does, which is be everywhere all the time. constantly in people's faces. >> fair point. >> and he actually has gotten, gotten in trump's face. but going back to, going back to your friend, is he a mergers and acquisitions lawyer? does he know anything about -- fcc? >> no, no, his point would be, once again i'm not defending him. would be, hey, the valuable noodle i serve -- over the years i've had many conversations with him, oh, my god, this is happening, everybody is going to think this and trump is going to act this way. theoretically what people are paying for, when abc happens, i'll tell you what def is going to happen. nobody understands this guy better than me and his kids. >> and willie, donny brought up, the question if donald trump has all of these billions of dollars wirks is he risk his reputation on you know getting somebody to pay $49.95 for trump university? you could go down the list of things that don't add up. we talked about it with michael cohen. he's flipping $30 million apartments and he can't afford a $130,000 payoff to the president for a porn star. you could say the same thing about donald trump. a lot of things he does, they don't add up. and yes, this is a guy that would shake somebody down for a couple of hundred thousand dollars. because we don't know just how cash-poor he is. we don't know if he's even a billionaire. >> and that's why it will be so interesting to see where this $4.4 million that flowed through essential consultants actually ended up. did it all really just go in michael cohen's pocket? or is there some deal with the president? we'll look into that. if you look at the numbers, the "washington post" reports that the $600,000 at&t paid cohen represented 3.5% of their entire lobbying budget for the year. that's a lot of money to give to a guy who has no relationship to telecommunications or mergers and acquisitions. but was seen as we were saying, as one of the few people in the chaos after president trump was elected who might have the president's ear. >> but we're looking at this from the window of he can do something positive for these companies. there's a lot of talk right now that perhaps he was able to say -- you don't want me against you. you don't want, you want me on your side. because i'll go to your competitor or an at&t, i speak to donald trump. you don't want me whispering in his ear something negative. i think of course he doesn't know about mergers and acquisitions, he doesn't know about accounting or health care. what was his purpose? to maybe interpret some of donald trump's ideas? and then also and probably more important, to make sure that he didn't say -- hey, i can keep you out of trouble. or i won't go to your competitor. and i think it's more of a shakedown than performing services. >> we obviously don't know exactly what happened there. but i agree with what everybody said before. first, this is the swamp in action. this is how washington works on steroids. where normal lobbying, normal payoffs have been escalate odd into paying huge sums of money. to a guy who knows nothing, except he happens to know the president of the united states. here's another point not to repeat what everybody else said. i think it will be very interesting for mueller. the question here is whether what cohen did, did he pay his taxes on this money? should he have registered as a lobbyist depending on what he did or didn't do? i suspect in all of michael cohen's complicated dealings, mueller will find grist for his investigation and things he can do to have leverage against cohen. maybe flip him or at least go after him. i think this is all going to relate back to what mueller is doing, vis-a-vis trump. >> donny, i want to go back to a question i asked you before, we didn't really put a bow on it you've known michael cohen for a very long time. you know how badly donald trump treats him. you know that he makes fun of him, he mocks him, he ridicules him. he doesn't think much of him personally. and again, we also know how cheap donald trump is. how this is a guy who has been billions in debt we don't know if the guy has any money at all. so do you really believe, knowing that relationship, knowing michael cohen, knowing donald trump, as you have, that donald trump would say to michael cohen -- oh, cool, yeah, i'll sit with at&t. or i'll sit with these other companies. you make half a million dollars and i'll just sit here and do nothing. or do you think that donald trump wanted to a cut of that, just like he was going crazy during the debate season, demanding, he was actually thinking about demanding that cnn, msnbc and fox pay him to go on the debate stage. that he needed royalty checks, because they were making so much advertising off of him? do you think that donald trump would go, oh, it's great, michael, you make $600,000 and i'll take some meetings for you. >> first of all, the relation with michael is, he did have a warm up until this point, a warm relationship. sure he would yell at him just like he yells at his homeland security director in front of the cabinet. do i think if donald trump knew about this, he would say to michael, this is my opinion, hey, michael, i want 80% of that and keep setting up those meetings? absolutely. i don't know if donald trump knew about it, before or after, if that was happening and donald trump either knew or was going to know, that would end up in donald trump's pocket. once again, this is a guy who sold steaks. so i can say that with complete certainty, not knowing exactly what happened. but yes, that would go to donald trump and not only that, donald trump would say to him, hey, by the way, here are the fortune 500 companies, let's go from 1-500 and i would take it up to $1 million a pop. the day donald trump got in office, his attitude and we see it in his son-in-law's attitude not, how can i serve this country. wow, we stormed the gate. this is really, really cool. >> can i respond to your question about the closeness, which is something that i perceived and for a long time, there's one thing that fights that, which is the disjuncture of michael's aparent view was that he would be white house chief of staff. not only was he not white house chief of staff, but he got left behind. i'm not saying that in a critical way. where was the mismatch there sort of between the relationship that one of them thought i'm going to washington to be your most important person in the white house and the other one said you're not coming to washington at all, stay back in new york. >> michael's contention is no, he didn't want to go, he was in a position to do more outside of it. that's michael's point of view. i was surprised myself knowing their relationship, that he didn't go there. that michael could have done a lot of blocking and tackling, michael has got a lot of sharp elbows. at the time i think he wanted somebody back at the store. it's a little foggy what really went down there. because it was about as close a relationship other than his kids. michael's point at this point is he didn't want to go, he was in a position to do more in new york. i wasn't there at the time. >> that's not true. he wanted to go, donald trump said he was a bull in a china shop. basically said he couldn't be trusted down there. didn't want him anywhere around. michael was broken-hearted. you've read "the wall street journal" stories, people overhearing him on the phone, saying "boss, i miss you so much." it's really sad. he was run over by donald trump and thrown out. because donald trump didn't think he was good enough to be in the white house. >> i don't know the reason. but i was surprised he was not there. and i do think deep in michael's heart. he probably would have liked to have been there. but once again, what he said to me was, in hindsight, don't shoot the messenger. >> we'll sneak in a break here. heidi przybilla and michael schmidt coming up after the break. coming up, rudy giuliani has left his manhattan law firm to focus on his work with donald trump. yesterday we heard vice president pence calling for an end to the russia investigation. well now chief of staff john kelly sharing a similar opinion of that probe as well. and if congress cannot protect special counsel robert mueller's job, perhaps it can protect his work. heidi has new exclusive reporting digging into that. we've got a lot more ahead on "morning joe." so, how's it going? 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[ chuckles ] download the xfinity my account app and set a password you can easily remember. one more way comcast is working to fit into your life, not the other way around. what happenes if robert mueller subpoenas the president? will you comply? >> we don't have to. he's the president of the united states. >> if the president is asked to testify, subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury, and says -- no. not going to do it. >> he's got to do it. you don't have a choice. >> it's pretty clear that a president can't be subpoenaed to a criminal proceeding about him. >> as far as criminal is law is concerned, the president is a citizen. >> the president cannot be distracted by a criminal investigation. >> all the watergate litigation resolved the fact that the president is not above the law. is not able to avoid subpoenas. >> really, really -- just remarkable. >> it's the same guy, right? >> it's the same guy, except -- as i, as i suggested yesterday, i think when the queen of england, as he calls queen elizabeth, knighted him, perhaps she slipped and struck him on the head and he has short-term memory loss as it pertains to presidents being subpoenaed? i don't know, but that's embarrassing. that's about as embarrassing as mike pence yesterday morning, you just do the side by sides and sehe's splitting. he's basically being nixonian. giuliani, i don't know if giuliani was at the game last night. but there was a little game last night. >> it took you this long to bring it up, joe. shocking. >> i know, but i'm doing this for a reason. i had to stay up until after 11:00 and listen to the end of the game. thank god the on-deck circle, it was a great game. i want to read while we're looking at some of these images, listen to these stats, willie. really incredible. the red sox started the season winning 17 out of 19 games. the yankees now have won 17 out of 19 games. the yankees began the season 9-9. the red sox last 18 games, their record has been 9-9. they're split for the season series, three. and it's 3-3, season split. and of course, they're both at the top of the american league east and they both have the best records in baseball. this, this really does look like it's shaping up to just be a great season series. joe kelly coming in at the end and first of all looking like he was going to be the goat. but then shutting them down. but man, what a line-up the yankees have. top to bottom. it's frightening. >> it's brutal. here's the death blow by the way, 4-4 game in the eighth inning, martinez sneaks one -- if judge is an inch taller and catches this -- oh, just doesn't get it, red sox win 5-4, they were up 4-0, yankees came back and tied it up. from may, the feel in that building was alcs feel, three great games. its going to be a fun, fun summer in the al east. >> can i jump in for a second? remember those great days before trump where we would do sports here and highlights? and then donald trump just -- just changed everything for us. we don't get to kind of talk baseball any more. or talk pop culture. >> donny? >> it's just terrible. >> was it donald trump, donny? or was it us? i think we can, i think, i think we can reclaim who we were before donald trump was sworn in. especially if it's the red sox that beat the yankees. willie? what do we have next? >> as long as the yankees and red sox are competitive we'll have sports on the show. rudy giuliani has resigned from his job at a manhattan law firm to focus on representing president trump in the russia probe. nbc reports partners have grown increasingly frustrated with the way joij has handled himself in the last couple of weeks. especially his leave of absence status at the firm which allows him to collect the president's legal bills. giuliani calls his departure from the firm a mutual decision and the firm took issue with giuliani's comments that michael cohen's payments to stormy daniels was a common practice. >> that was money that was paid by, by his lawyer, the way i would do out of his law firm funds. michael would take care of things like this. like i take care of things like this for my clients. >> the "times" asked the manhattan law firm about those remarks after giuliani's resignation and received this response. quote we cannot speak for mr. giuliani, with respect to what was intended by his remarks. speaking for ourselves we would not condone payments of the nature alleged to have been made or 0 otherwise without the knowledge and direction of a client. >> wow. >> yesterday a firm spokesperson told nbc news the "times" had mischaracterized the remarks, which they say was an answer to a general question asked earlier this week. michael schmidt, what's the truth about the braeak-up? i can't imagine a law firm wants its partners saying yeah, these payoffs happen all the time. we pay off porn stars. >> i don't think that the firm liked that. and as you see, they went to lengths to put out a statement to us when they didn't have to say anything. they could have allowed the break-up to sort of stand as it was. they went far enough to put this out there. giuliani coming back to us last night and saying look, greenberg never raised the issue with me. saying this was not something that they came directly to him about. but look, they did speak out about it. the other thing that i think we have to understand about people representing the president, is that in the past six weeks, as jay sekulow has tried to rebuild the president's legal team, several lawyers from big firms said no, because the firms did not want them representing the president. they were afraid about internal backlash from their employees. they were afraid about their lawyers working for someone who has a reputation of not necessarily following the legal advice of his attorneys and not always paying his bills. so firms, this has been on their mind. and they realize there can be an internal and external issue with going as far to represent this president. >> so michael, talk about also, the law firm's concern about the risk to reputation, we heard about meetings that they had had, by thursday of last week, members of the firm had had enough. they were embarrassed by what giuliani was doing on tv. and they really did start talking among themselves according to your reports and others, talking about the risk to their law firm's reputation. that this could not go on and giuliani could not stay attached to their law firm because he was embarrassing them. >> yeah, and that's the other thing, the nature of giuliani's representation of the president is different than other attorneys. it was incredibly public. lots of television appearances, being very aggressive. going to push hard on mueller, you know going after rosenstein. raising a lot of larger issues about this. also putting some stuff out there that turned out not necessarily to be true. and having to walk that back. so if you're a firm, your public relations image is going up and down with the up and downs of donald trump and rudy giuliani. and for this particular firm, it's a larger issue, they were tied in with the jack abramoff scandal over a decade ago and when there's negative publicity like this it means even more to them because they've already been associated with a big scandal here in washington. so the sense that we had from what was going on there, is look, we need to put as much distance between us and them as possible. and on the other part of this is that donald trump is just one client to them. this is a law firm as giuliani pointed out that has 2,000 lawyers. donald trump could oent generate so much in fees and there's a lot of other business there. and they need to build a moat and protect that. >> susan you worked with giuliani. giuliani says the firm doesn't understand what i said. saying this kind of payment is in fact common. he said they never brought it up and he was surprised by the split. what's your reaction? >> i think that giuliani is used to be an executive. similar to trump. i think giuliani came from his own law firm, giuliani and brasswell and he was not able to make a transition to working with other people. as we see even now. when he went on television. he kind of went rogue. he wasn't working with the legal team. this is typical giuliani. he's used to doing what he wants, how he wants to do it. i think there was a lot of people upset that he didn't really take into consideration that he was part of the law firm and he was just doing his own thing? >> so heidi przybilla. rudy giuliani with these appearances on tv has referenced the mueller probe. we've heard comments from vice president pence yesterday saying it's time to wrap up the mueller probe. we heard chief of staff, we'll hear these comments shortly, john kelly suggesting the same that not much has been found, maybe it's time to wrap this up. you've got new reporting about what's happening on capitol hill in reaction to all that. >> nbc has exclusive new reporting about a movement afoot on capitol hill to develop a plan b. to try and protect the russia investigation. as you know, senator mitch mcconnell has said he will not bring to the floor a vote of a separate bipartisan effort to try and protect mueller's job. and so senator blumenthal has told me that he is organizing a bipartisan effort, he's working with republicans, that's notable here, to try to protect mueller's work. senator mcconnell and other republicans raised objections to the initial effort saying it was not constitutional to put any kind of shackles on the president's ability to hire and fire personnel. well what this does, is totally skirts that. and focuses simply on transparency in terms of the work that mueller is doing. for instance, it allows congress to demand that they get to see his work. and i think that would surprise a lot of people to know right now mueller is not operating under that rule. similar to what ken starr operated under, which was that congress, no matter what, gets to see the fruition, the product of his work. so this new potential legislation would simply bring that statute, bring those rules to be the same as what ken starr operated under. secondly, it would allow mueller to essentially release his work if he were fired. and to release his work if he felt like he was starting to be stifled. and this is important, guys. because now a lot of the talk on capitol hill is not about the saturday night massacre scenario of mueller himself being fired. but potentially rosenstein being pushed aside, which would allow a trump loyalist to be put into that job and could squeeze the resources going to mueller. so senator blumenthal tells me he is working with a number of republicans on this. they think that it will bring more pressure to bear on mcconnell, because every republican you talk to, up on the hill seems to agree when you talk to them, that this investigation needs to continue unimpeded and at the same time, we're seeing this escalating rhetoric coming not only from the president, but from everyone around him. from giuliani to now the vice president and reportedly now even john kelly. >> and jon heilemann, it's what we are entering a new phase now, as heidi said, where you have mike pence playing spiro agnew, lifting lines directly from richard nixon before he went down for watergate. you have kelly, playing earl lickman and halderman trying to kill this investigation. you have devin nunes with the full support of paul ryen, the shameful support of paul ryan, trying to expose an intel asset. trying desperately to stop this russian investigation. it really is, it's directly out of "homeland." you have somebody in devin nunes. devon nunes knows exactly what he's trying to do the russian investigation has indicted 13 russians, more indictments of russians obviously on the way. and yet nunes is doing putin's bidding and paul ryan is letting him do putin's bidding. and the question is, where are the grown-ups in the republican party that can explain to paul ryan that while he may be going home to wisconsin after this, this year is over, the rest of them are going to have to deal in the aftermath of what's going to be a very messy situation. when it's revealed just how much they are covering up for vladimir putin and russia. >> joe, i don't know where the adults have gone and, the ways in which the republican party has behaved around this, have been just, it's been defining deviancy down over the last year and a half. i don't imagine that's going to change until unless and until, the kinds of things we've been talking about earlier in the show start to become so glaring, i'm talking about some stuff related to michael cohen. i'm talking about some of the other things, the ways in which the michael cohen story is not just about michael cohen now, it's now about michael cohen and stormy daniels and russia and all of that. the kind of threads are all coming together into one garment. and as those details, as start to come out, and the picture, the potential picture of the kind of international conspiracies and financial crimes that were starting to get hints of, early hints of now as those things come together, the only, i think the picture of that is the only thing eventually, along with, a drubbing at the polls in november, for the republicans, or the only thing that's going to change the calculuss that have been worked in the way that they have, that allow some of these things to go on that you're talking about, i imagine the combination of those two things, most importantly in some extent, the electoral consequences for the party. but a republican party that's lost the house and maybe lost the senate and as as they're looking at these kinds of stories increasingly coming out in potentially a flood, that is maybe the thing that will cause some of the grown-ups or ostensible grown-ups in the republican party, house and senate alike, to look up and say, we've got to change course. >> michael schmidt you've done a ton of reporting on the russia investigation, on what bob mueller has been up to. we know he referred the information led to the cohen raid. and when we got the avenatti report that mueller's special counsel people stopped viktor vekselberg at the airport and took his devices away from him. do you have a sense of where bob mueller is in his investigation and what he's digging up at this point? >> i get a lot of questions about the timing. how far along is mueller? when would he be done? mueller has been a very difficult black box for us to penetrate to understand where his head is at on any of this stuff. he's given very little clues on it. look, he has been looking at the president now for a year. we're coming up on the year marker, as mike pence pointed out the other day. this has been a year, we should be done with it. the thing i, that obviously there's a lot of people that want immediate answers to this. they want to know exactly where it is. i think they have to understand that this these things takes a very long time. iran contra went on for six years. that may have been not nearly as complex as this. and the investigation, the russia investigation has so many different tentacles, it has a collusion tentacle. it has an obstruction, social media, interference, in the questions about foreign agents and how americans are lobbying for foreign governments, they're looking at qataris, how money was coming in from uae and the gulf. there's so many different parts of this. and the problem that mueller has, that people have to understand is that mueller wants to look underneath every single rock. because if he ever closes up shop, and something else comes out, that's going to look pretty bad. so he has to examine every single different thread and i just find it hard to believe that he's close to being done with any of that. >> as all the noise comes out of the white house, noise on tv, noise online, he continues his work in 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lives here. a top white house communications aide mocked senator john mccain's brain cancer diagnosis. the comments which were first reported by the hill came during a meeting yesterday after senator mccain announced he would oppose the nomination of gina haspel to become director of the c.i.a. kelly sadler reportedly said the arizona as senator is quote, dying anyway. according to three sources with direct knowledge of the meeting. the white house did not deny that sadler made the remark. asked for a comment, it said in a statement only we respect senator mccain's service to our nation and he and his family are in our prayers during this difficult time. senator mccain's office had no comment but his wife, cindy mccain, addressed sadler on twitter, writing, may i remind you, my husband has a family, seven children and five grandchildren. joe? >> the fish rots from the head. we've talked about how a talked president is much more than his positions on supreme court justice justices. much 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[ cheers and applause ] >> that's interesting. he delivered -- he's delivered more than he's promised. where's that wall? where's the wall? where's the wall? i don't see a wall. do you see a wall, willie? i don't see a wall. i also -- where where's that health care coverage that was going to be more affordable, that was going to be better, cheaper, more affordable. we have stories coming in that insurance companies are having to raise their prices because donald trump and the republicans -- well, they tried to destroyed the affordable care act but didn't bother replacing it so the impact is going to be chaotic. we can go down the list of lies during the campaign but i'll just start with one, where's the wall? >> well, and the ohmland security secretary heard a lot about there not being a wall, reportedly in a meeting to the point where she drafted her own resignation letter in the way she was treated by the president. we'll get to that in just a minute. still with us, national affairs analyst for nbc news and msnbc and executive producer and co-host of show time's "the circus" which is just on fire this season, john heilemann. republican strategist and political commentator susan del percio. former treasury official whose charts are about to be on fire on this show, steve rattner. >> holy moly! >> nbc news national political reporter heidi przybyla and joining the conversation pulitzer prize winning columnist and associate editor of the "washington post" and msnbc political analyst, always on fire, eugene robinson. and the host of msnbc's politics nation and the president of the national action network, the reverend al sharpton. >> on fire. >> mika will be back with us on monda monday. >> he's not on fire, he is fire. he is fire he's verified, he is sanctified, he is -- also on fire. >> trying not to be crucified. >> well, stay away from that, it's already been done, no second acts there, rev. so john heilemann, let's talk for a second, "the circus" on fire but another show on fire -- well not this season but we've been talking about "peaky blinders" man and i've got to say, cilian murphy -- well, the whole cast is extraordinary but when murphy and tom hardy are working across the table the acting is extraordinary. i even have mika watching it. >> i am so pleased you found your way to this show. i was late to it and i watched it over christmas, all four seasons and it is one of the most extraordinary things i've ever seen. cil cilian murphy is amazing. eventually you get to adrian brody who comes in and off pacino de niro in heat quality to the scenery dchew between those two. and the combination of the stylized period piece british post-world war i gangster thing with music by the arctic monkeys and nick cave and radio head and all these creates this kind of amazing thing. the music people were -- the musicians were so into this show, musicians who never let their music be played on television, like radiohead. they started throwing music at the guys who make the show to the point where before david bowie died he gave them a song for an episode that you have not yet seen. it's an amazing thing, a real phenomenon in britain, not as much here, but i'm glad you're in the fan category now. >> how do you pronounce the nee lead's -- >> killian. >> cilian was a musician himself three of these guys were in dunkirk but cillian murphy, what an extraordinary actor. you have to see this guy act, he's one of the best. >> willie? >> let's turn to our panel on this. the combination of period acting and music, go ahead. >> i have absolutely no idea what we're talking about. >> not a clue. >> i have heard great things about the show. rev, got anything? i've never seen you at a loss for words. >> i'm at a loss for understanding. they're trying to put out my fire. i need to get my swag bag. >> this is not the culture vulture panel here. >> let's get back on topic. john heilemann, this sunday's new episode of "the circus" goes behind the scenes with michael avenatti, the attorney for stormy daniels as avenatti prepared to expose michael cohen's allege connection to a russian oligarch with close ties to vladimir putin. "morning joe" has this exclusive look as you join avenatti before he makes headlines that make that claim, let's check it out. >> we may do that. i'm in the process of verifying some stuff. it's going to reset this discussion in a very big way. you weren't supposed to be here. you were going go home, go off the grid. >> correct. what happened was on saturday some information came to us and we decided that we can't sit on it, we need to break it. >> don't keep me in suspense. >> we have information now that the president's personal attorney michael cohen has been accepting money from the russians after the election. >> russians means what? >> well, money from one of the leading russian oligarchs who is known to be at the right hand of vladimir putin. >> what's the money for? >> we don't know but this was the same bank account set up for the purpose of paying my client the $130,000. >> and you know about this how? >> because we're good. you got the final version? let's just see how it plays out. >> you have a tweet written? >> two tweets. >> two tweets. it was just sent. >> it was just sent. there it is. summary, michael cohen -- how many pages is this thing? >> seven pages. >> what does it say? >> it says they here in a lot of [ bleep ] is what it says. >> that information from avenatti continues to drive the news cycle. a new report says on the first business day of the trump administration the president's personal attorney michael cohen signed a contract with at&t to receive $600,000 to consult on long-term planning as well as his pending merger with time warner which the justice department sued the block last november. documents obtained by the "washington post" show cohen made the deal on january 23, 2017, within three days of president trump's inauguration and just four days after cohen publicly announced he would represent trump as president and would resign from the trump organization to avoid a "perceived conflict." at&t says it paid cohen for "insights" but the "post" found it unclear what insight cohen could have provided at&t on complex telecom matters. meanwhile, the health care news site stat reports the $1.2 million novartis paid cohen's company is almost four times more than it paid actual outside lobbyists in that same time period. a novartis spokesperson responded cohen was hired as a consultant and not as a lobbyist and that the consulting fees were in line with market terms for consultancy and advisory. john, go back to the clip of avenatti where this started. he didn't tell you where this started. >> very explicitly did not talk about that. >> what are his suspicions about what this means in the bigger picture. he mentioned russia, about what michael cohen may have been up to with this company. >> however this information came to him and whatever -- he was very confident. we had a long discussion monday night where i was saying are you going to put evidence out and he said i'm not but i'm going to hope journalists are going to verify this and i'm very confident they will and i pressed him, i fed is this turns out to be false, these assertions, your career is over, you're done, you won't be serving your client well, this will be a catastrophe and he said he understood that which gave me the sense he had access to or had seen something or told something he had a high degree of confidence that it would be verified and that it was quickly by the "new york times" and other news outlets so he has the same questions we all have which is there are two sides of these transactions. one is what are the sources and victor vekselberg is the most high profile one because it brings the collusion questions into play but there's big american corporations and foreign corporations paying michael cohen for in what looks like an influence operation. and then there's the question of what happened to that money. there's a lot of money that flowed into that account. a lot of money flowed out and we see stories about michael cohen being in financial duress, having to take out mortgages an homes. so the question is if michael cohen was sucking in all this money to be -- provide access or insight into donald trump's thinking, where did it go? to the point where he seems to be in a not great place financially if you think about the reporting we've heard. and those things, where the money got paid out, did it go to other women donald trump may have had relationships with? those are the questions michael avenatti is raising, asking and questions we should be raising. >> reverend sharpton you're not naive about politics, you know how lobbying works, there's a system set up where money goes in to gain influence over politicians. michael cohen not a registered lobbyist, michael cohen set up this company, took in $4.4 million that we know of. $600,000 from at&t which represented 3.5% of the total lobbying budget for the year to a guy who isn't a lobbyist. what do you see as you hear this story about michael cohen? >> i wonder, and i talked about this last night with ari is whether or not michael cohen was, in fact, selling a bill of goods to different people that he couldn't deliver on. here's a man that president trump did not bring in who thought he would be brought in, wanted to be brought in and maybe his get even was i'm going to go out here and make me some money and did it by, in a sense, overprojecting what he could do because a lot of these corporations are not silly, certainly i don't think they thought they were doing anything like bribing because it's not enough money, i think they felt they would get some insight. the question now that i think runs into the piece that john is doing or the next piece he may do is does the government have some kind of e-mail trail or something where he was defrauding the companies promising them things he couldn't deliver, overstepping boundaries, that would not make their intentions wrong but his intentions wrong and then the president not playing along or not even knowing which is not good news for the president because if, in fact, he did, they have more leverage to squeeze him to talk about other matters. >> >> i think there's a couple pieces that relate back to mueller and other things. first is the point that when mueller gets into cohen's business, he's going to find things that i think are illegal or improper and that will give him leverage over cohen. the second thing is joe made a compelling case for why the swamp has gotten bigger in washington, not smaller and the one thing i would add is that what they have allowed trump and kushner and family members to do in terms of retaining business interests continue to be in business, continue to microsoft are from business is not only disgusting, it's completely inconsistent with any other administration in history. i was part of one. i had to get rid of every single thing i owned that could have possibly had anything do with anything and these guys are allowed to keep ownership interest and act like they're still in business. >> and gene robinson we've detailed and highlighted so of the things that were purchased by agency -- cabinet agency hea heads. $31,000 for this piece of furniture. $100,000 for zinke's doors. you had $140,000 for the maxwell smart phone booth for scott pruitt. you have all of scott pruitt's private jet flights. i could go down the list of former hhs secretaries. you have $600,000 for a guy who right now the court is trying to figure out whether he's a lawyer or not to influence and at&t merger. but gene, that doesn't start to get into the real money. jared kushner bouncing around during transition trying to figure out whether he was raising money for his 666 project or whether he was going to be in government. you have ivanka trump getting her merchandising fast tracked in china. the list goes on forever. this is in the history of american politics, this is the muck -- the muckiest swamp we have ever seen and we're only a year and a half in. >> i think it will be seen as the most corrupt administration this country has seen at least since harding. and history may decide that harding got a bad rap and that it's number one. i've never seen anything like this. and first of all, why shouldn't every cabinet member have a cone of silence? remember the cone of silence maxwell smart would -- that's what i think of when i think of scott pruitt. and the michael cohen stuff, i wonder if it wasn't a protection racket. remember donald trump was tweeting about specific companies and causing their stock prices to go up and down and i imagine cohen's pitches being something like, you know, that's a nice little drug company you got there, it would be a shame if something happened to it -- like a tweet. >> and he's been known to tweet threats before. so heidi. i'm curious, i'm always asking about the response on capitol hill but there have to be people around that remember when members of congress and people i served with went on a golf trip with jack abramoff, came back and gave a speech on the floor and suddenly they were thrown in jail. remember robert mcdonald's life was ruined but he allowed a guy that had given him a watch -- which was legal under virginia law, put up some display for vitamin sublimits or something inside the governor's residency and reception. but you have donald trump here -- we're moving millions and millions of dollars around in this administration if you look at all the business being done on the side and you look at all the money that his cabinet secretaries are wasting, how do republicans in congress deal with this? how do they go back to their districts with a straight face and defend this? >> for all of the reasons you outlined, this is going to surprise no one, joe. i take you back to several months ago when corey lewandowski himself left the administration and set up blocks from the white house as a lobbyist but i wanted to point out one thing i think is important in understanding, another scenario which this may have occurred. under our ethics rules you only have to register as a lobbyist if you've had contact with two or more government officials so michael cohen as the president's attorney had one very important contact that made him extremely valuable to at&t and any other company that came beggaring at his door and that is donald trump. if you read down in that report, it says that in january, both michael cohen and the ceo of at&t were seen going into trump tower around the same time. now, the ceo says that they did not meet, that it had nothing to do with the merger but it was days later that this contract was inked and so michael cohen clearly was seen as a valuable asset if only for the fact that he had direct access to donald trump and according to these rules would not have had to register as a lobbyist just for providing that service. and we will never know, we will never know what his conversations were with donald trump. >> robert mueller may get some insight if cohen decides he doesn't want to go to jail for the rest of his life. willie, it's easy to get frustrated by the corruption in washington, d.c. and think donald trump and zinke and pruitt and the rest of the crew will be getting away with it but it's a devastating 30-second ad, to have donald trump talking about draining the swamp and boom show the $31,000 piece of furniture, have him talk about draining the swatch and showing one after another -- $130,000, or $20,000 for doors, payoffs, at&t bribes, legal bribes but basically bribes all the same. that's a devastating 30-second add and i don't think donald trump or the republican party will be able to do anything to get around that. >> you'll see that ad this fall in those swing districts that voted for donald trump last time and maybe aren't getting what they thought they were going to get in terms of the swamp being drained. rev, i want to ask you about your interview with meek mill. you sat down with him. he's been an important figure with his release from prison. what did you want to know from meek? >> he said to me when i visited him in jail and did some rallies because i felt he was being held unjustly that he really wanted to be -- what he really wants to do, how he sees criminal justice reform now, what he thought about fellow rapper kanye west and would he attend this so-called projected trump meeting, summit meeting of artists and athletes around race. he and i talked about it. it will be on sunday morning. i will say joe said the president has not kept his promises starting with the wall. but one promise he kept, joe, is he said to black americans what do you have to lose? well, we've lost criminal justice reform. we've lost part of the affordable care act and we've lost the dignity of the white house standing on the right side of things like charlottesville. so he kept that promise, joe. he's let black america know what we had to lose with him as president and we're still going down, down, down. >> and the can question is how do parents of black american kids -- what do parents say to their children when the president of the united states uses his position to paint a moral equivalency between white supremacists and neo-nazis and those marching on the side of -- well, my god what thomas jefferson talked about. how we are a nation where all men are supposed to be created equal. that domest-- the bitter irony t happening in charlottesville and the president of the united states defending white supremacist, defending neo-nazis. what impact, reverend sharpton, does that have? and i guess because i've got four children that's what i'm most concerned about right now. what impact does that have on a nine-year-old boy or ten-year-old girl hearing that from the president of the united states? >> it has tremendous impact because it more normalizes bigo it normalizes people growing up at that age feeling it's all right to represent supremacy over other human beings because the highest figure in the land has made this all right and made the moral equivalence so parents like you or me, how do we then make the balance he has made in their mind become something they understand is not balanced and that you cannot have a moerl society like that? it poisons american values and i think that that is something more than most that i think is unpardonable so far this presidency. >> reverend al sharpton, thank you as always. we'll watch politics nation this sunday at 8:00 a.m. with that interview with meek mill. still ahead on "morning joe," the "washington post's" george will says trump is no longer the worse person in government. that honor, he says, now belongs to mike pence. for someone in trump's inner circle, the vice president has a pattern of saying he's been out of the loop. does he know more about the mueller probe than he's letting on? 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[ whirring sound ] you want a cookie? it's a drone! i know. find your phone easily with the xfinity voice remote. one more way comcast is working to fit into your life, not the other way around. >> it's been about a year since this investigation began. >> one year of watergate is enough. >> our administration has been fully cooperating. >> i have provided to the special prosecutor voluntarily a great deal of material. >> our administration has provided over a million documents. >> i believe i have that provided all the material that he needs to conclude his investigations. >> in the interest of the country, i think it's time to wrap it up. >> i believe the time has come. >> and i would very respectfully encourage -- >> that investigation -- >> bring their work -- >> to an end. >> vice president mike pence taking a page from president nixon's playbook calling an end to the russia investigation yesterday. joining us now, editor at large for the "weekly standard" bill kristol and vaughn hillyard. vaughn, in that interview with andrea mitchell, vice president pence said he did not have any knowledge of the president's personal attorney michael cohen having so in corporate contracts. this is a familiar refrain from vice president mike pence that he gaves that reaganesque head shake and says i didn't know, i didn't have knowledge of. it's a pattern for pence, isn't it? >> welly, vice president pence says the investigation should shut down but over the last year what have we heard from him? essentially pleading ignorance to knowing anything around the investigation at all. here's a couple of the interviews from the last year. >> well general flynn's son has no involvement in the transition whatsoever. >> he has a transition e-mail. >> well, he has no involvement in the transition whatsoever. >> so you are saying as the head of the transition that minute's son is not involved at all in the transition. >> he's not. i joined this campaign in the summer and i can tell you all the conduct by the trump campaign and associates was with the american people. this is a distraction and all a part of a narrative to delegitimize the election and to question the legitimacy of this presidency. >> former national security adviser michael flynn has filed with the department of justice as a foreign agent. >> let me say hearing that story today was the first i heard of it and i fully support the decision that president trump made to ask for general flynn's resignation. >> you're disappointed by the story? >> the first i heard of it. >> did the president fire director comey to impede the russia investigation? >> he's not under investigation. >> intelligence officials have said there's investigation into potential ties between campaign officials and russian officials. >> that's not what this is about. i've made it very clear i'm not aware of any contacts during the time that i was on the campaign and between any officials of the russian government and officials with the campaign and i stand by that. >> willie, it's a question of whether mike pence was kept in the dark or whether there was willful ig new orleans at play. i want to go back to august of last year, i was with the vice president overseas and the question that i asked him was from the january 15 cbs "face the nation" interview he did, he made two claims -- one, that the trump campaign had no conversations with russians during the campaign. the second was that michael flynn had no conversations with russian ambassador kislyak about sanctions during the transition. i told pence that we now know both of these to be untrue so my question was has there been at any point in which you had gone back to everybody involved this with the campaign and administration and said come forward around be transparent with me and the american people. i asked him that twice. both times he dodged and i say this because what we have seen him time and time again is pleading ignorance. he doesn't know about the activity about michael cohen. he was not aware of michael flynn's investigations with kislyak and yet he's maintained as we saw yesterday that this investigation should come to an end. >> vaughn hillyard in washington, very fascinating clips you put together there. we appreciate it as always, vaughn. thanks so much. joe, it's the job and always has been of the vice president to support the white house line to protect the president in some ways but yesterday we saw the beginning of an argument from vice president mike pence where he said it's time to shut down the mueller probe. we'll hear from kelly who suggested the same on npr, giuliani has said the same but to hear it from the vice president's mouth was extraordinary yesterday. >> well, he really did. he -- we like to say on this show that history doesn't repeat but it rhymes but it didn't even rhyme yesterday. he lifted richard nixon's words directly from the nixon speech nine months before nixon had to resign. >> right. >> and bill kristol, what position is mike pence in to talk about ending any investigation when he's either lying about absolutely everything that's happened between the russians and the trump administration or completely ignorant. we could look at yesterday and say one year is enough, but even in january of 2017, a year and a half ago, he was saying there was no contact ever between any americans around -- any russians and the trump administration. and this is just a distraction to keep us from doing our work. he's been trying to obstruct this investigation from day one. >> what willie said, the guy who gets the job of the vice president -- i thought you were going to finish by saying to be kept in the dark. since i worked for a vice president there's some truth to that. i think mike pence likes to keep himself in the dark but i come back to what joe is saying, the inappropriateness of the vice president saying it's time to tend investigation. if you were vice president of the united states and the justice department is investigating someone or a set of people and some people have been indicted or pled guilty you say "i'm not commenting on an ongoing investigation." period. that's what you say. it's utterly inappropriate for pence to say this and it's part of a strategy to be -- to keep building the pressure and legitimizing the notion this that this has gone on too long to get the republicans on the bill and conservative on fox to keep attacking mueller and so for forth. >> susan, i remember being bent out of shape several times during the obama administration on hillary clinton's investigation into e-mails when the president president of the united states kept stepping in and saying first of all in the fall of 2015, oh, listen, we know that none of hillary clinton's e-mails dealt with any national security issues. -the-said it then, he also said in the the spring of 2016, we called it out on this show, it was highly inappropriate, fbi agents were enraged and leaked to the "new york times" that they were enraged and now mike pence is doing the same thing, interfering in an ongoing investigation and trying to kill it along with the chief of staff. this is spiro agnew part two. >> and i think this is more of a political calculation. obviously part of staying in the dark is so he can potentially run with a clean record, if you will and yet i think calling for the end of the mueller investigation is part of saying i never abandoned trump so he has to find the right balance and he's looking towards whether it's 2020 or 2024. >> what's interesting is i don't think there's any choir to be preached to. three quarters of americans think the investigation needs to go on and 56% of republicans so obviously other than that 30% base, that's pretty much falling on deaf ears. >> i hope so, but i would say -- i have this little organization republicans for the rule of law, the attacks on mueller are having some effect. >> where are we seeing this? >> among republicans. there's an erosion in confidence at mueller. at the beginning when mueller was appointed newt gingrich and others said we can't criticize mueller, impeccable credentials, fbi director served under george w. bush. now it's a free field to slander mueller and attack the fbi so i think it's having some effect. i think there has to be pushback and there needs to be a serious effort by congress to protect mueller. you had an item about how he was talking about plan "b." plan "a," this legislation, passed the senate judiciary committee 14-7. four republicans voted for it, seven against. 14-7, that's 2-1. if that went to the floor to the senate it would be about 2-1, which is what you need to override a veto. mitch mcconnell says i don't choose to bring it up. there's some legitimate constitutional questions that can be resolved in favor of it but that's why we have debates on the floor of the senate. that's stock? the senate majority leader says i choose not to bring it up. it passes the senate judiciary committee with the support of the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, chuck grassley and we're living in a congress where one guy says i choose not to bring it up. not i'm opposed or want it to be amended and republicans and democrats, i have to say, they're kind of pathetic, well, mitch mcconnell is not bringing it up, we're working on plan "b." make more of a ruckus of plan "a." >> how could mcconnell say after watching the vice president of theites, sits next to the president clearly making an administration case that it ought to be shut down, how can mitch mcconnell be so flippant about it today and say he would never fire mueller, that's outrageous. how can he say that? >> you should ask him, we should ask him. we put up a little ad -- mitch mcconnell was eloquent 20 years ago when ken starr was investigating president clinton, attacks on starr are unwise for the white house, the investigation needs to conclude, this is a respected investigator. and we saw the giuliani flip-flop from 1998 as well. >> bill is shocked that mitch mcconnell who kept merrick garland's nomination from being considered for an entire year that mitch mcconnell would engage in legislative chicanery on the floor. >> i'm shocked the democrats are rolling over. i think garland -- don't you think on garland they could have done more? >> i think the democrats are being pathetic. i think republicans are being grotesque. >> fair enough. >> gene, last week you saw the shift of the white house's posture i think towards mueller from kind of any ostensible cooperation and conciliation towards aggression -- war footing, changes of personnel, et cetera, et cetera. this week trump has been quiet on the legal front. he did this event last night in indiana, didn't invoke hoax or witch-hunt at all. they've tried to stay clear of this michael cohen russian oligarch story. they haven't made noise noise about it. but you siemens, you see john kelly now in understated tones compared to trumps wailing and howling that he normally does saying we should end this probe right now sos where this going now? is the white house finally getting to the point where it's not going to have the kind of histrionics of trump but what looks like a more conventional but maybe more dangerous strategy of trying to work through the normal ways that political communication work to effectively cut bob mueller off at the knees? >> well i don't think it's possible to squelch donald trump's histrionics for very long so i think they'll be back but i think the michael cohen raid changed everything in a way. i think it obviously provoked the president into something of a paroxysm and now i think they're trying to figure out how to shut this thing down. i do think this is kind of a new phase and this is -- somebody i think decided or convinced the president that, well, let's try it this way. let's try to beat the drums with other people rather than with you tweeting all the time and that will hold for a while. you know, all along i was a bit skeptical that trump would, indeed, actually try to fire mueller. i now think he will. i think it's way too close with michael cohen and i think this is -- we're getting to defcon 1 right now on this issue of are we heading to a constitutional crisis. >> gene robinson, thank you as always. we'll read your new column in today's "washington post" and congratulations on getting the teapot dome scandal into the show earlier. >> and also understanding how the defcon system works. that defcon 1 is more dangerous than defcon 5. that's an important insight. >> you know, meacham is not here this morning so i figured it was up to me to do teapot dome. >> playing the role of jon meacham. thanks. bill kristol, thank you as well. still ahead, voters in the midwest gave donald trump a chance in 2016, many enthusia enthusiastical enthusiastically. how do they feel about their candidate now? the "washington post" post dan balz joins us next 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time, joe. finally the hour is upon us. steve rattner has new charts on the latest economic numbers. >> the question is how good is this economy under donald trump. we have been creating a lot of jobs under donald trump. 187,000 a month. but under president obama since the economy hit bottom we've created more. so it's hard to claim there's been some transformation in the steve on the jobs front. if you then look at another measure of economic progress which is wage growth probably in some ways more important and something i suspect dan balz will talk about, you see a similar pattern. you had very, very small growth in real wages meaning adjusted for inflation under trump 0.4%, under obama 0.8%. last month wages went down because inflation picked up when you adjust for inflation. so, in fact -- >> can i stop you right there, steve? >> of course you can. >> because a lot of economists can't figure out what's going on there. usually basic laws of supply and demand would mean that when you have more jobs out there, when more people are being hired, when the unemployment rate is down to 3.9% even though job participation rate is historically very low that usually means that employers need to pay more money. a lot of economists were scratching their heads last week saying why did unemployment go down but wages are still depressed? >> it's a great question, joe, and i have one chart i'll get to but it's a complicated answer. it goes from things like globalization, competition to lower cost labor abroad, stronger power on behalf of corporations because unions are weaker but i'll give you a quick example. there are cases when fast food chains make workers sign non-competition agreements. that if they leave they won't work for another fast food chain in that area so that gives the companies power about wages but on your point about labor force participation, let's look at another chart on one other aspect which is the fact that there has been a noticeable -- not huge but noticeable increase in labor force participation on the part of what we call prime age men, men 25 to 5 4. so donie and i don't make the cut. but the people that work hard, those younger guys are coming back into the labor force, about 700,000 in the last year or so and that keeps pressure on wages from getting too high. last lay trump talks about having created the greatest investment climate in history and how businesses are adding plants and workers and jobs but let's look at the numbers on what's happening on the investment side and you see a fairly similar picture. 6.3% growth in investment under president obama, 3.8% under trump. it's early days, the tax cut hasn't been in effect that long but every time the president talks about this plan or apple doing this with 25,000 jobs, it's yet to appear in the numbers. >> so, steve, let me ask you about the unemployment number, it dipped below 4% for the first time in a long time last week. how significant is that? any white house would celebrate that number and tout that number. doesn't the president deserve credit for that? if president obama dipped below four there would be mass celebration. >> i think he deserves some credit but it's early the administration to give the president credit or blame for what happens here. this is a continuation of a trend and i think joe's broader won't is still right that even though labor force participation has come up a bit, it's still very low historically. there's actually more people looking for jobs, 6 million people looking for jobs today, more than anytime in the last 15 years. >> this has always been on ongoing frustration. it's something that, again, we talked about during the obama era and talking about it, again, here. one of the main reasons the unemployment rate dipped to below 4% this last month, even though the job numbers were lower than most analysts were expecting is because the job participation rate, unexpectedly dipped. we have to figure out why we have a system. again, i said it when obama was president and when trump is president. why do we have a system where we measure unemployment where the number actually looks better if more people get discouraged and stop looking for jobs? that ee that's where we are right now. that said, we should all be grateful. we have had a continuation, a seven-year recovery and not continuing at as fast of a base as barack obama, but a good clip and we should be grateful for that. >> absolutely. what do the numbers mean to voters, the citizens. let's turn to the presidency in congress, the legend himself, dan balz, royalty unease in trump's midwest. a region that turned largely to donald trump in 2016. it's great to have you with us. let's talk about where we are right now. we are talking the upper midwest. where have you spent most of your time? >> what i started out to do in january, 2017, is simply understand better what happened in the election. i want back to a part of the country where i grew up. i had some grounding as to what this area was like. one of the things i discovered is there are 100 counties that voted five elections, at least five elections in a row for democratic nominees and flipped to trump. half of those are in the upper midwest. a bunch in iowa, wisconsin, illinois and minnesota. i started to go out and find people to sit-down with them and talk to them. my editor said don't go out with the idea that we have to write anything right away, let's see what we hear and take it from there. that ended up being a 15-month process where i would go intermittently. i wasn't living there, but would go every few months and talk to people. i focused on a half dozen or so people, almost all republicans, some republican local officials, some elected officials, some ordinary citizens. i tried to get a sense of how they were absorbing the trump presidency from the idea, initially, of somebody who many had not anticipated would be the force he was in their area, who came to support him with some enthusiasm and now, as, you know, as the presidency has unfolded, what they think about him and what they think about it. >> what do they think about him? where are they? >> here's the bottom line, i would say. i put people in about three baskets. one group would be what i call still all in. they are very enthusiastic about the president. they think he is doing what he promised he would do or at least is trying to do that and the degree to which he is unable to be as successful as they would wish is not his fault. it's the swamp. it's the opposition. in some cases, it's republican opposition to the things he is doing. there's a significant portion of those people -- joe, it's a variety of people. you can't -- i can't categorize it as to this type or that type. these are people who are, you know, they are conservative. they feel, in ma ways, disrespected by the elites, by the east and west coast. these are people who are, you know, they are working hard. many of them are, you know, are making less money, probably than they did before and they see in trump somebody who is, you know, who is championing the things they want to see. then there's another group that i would say there's a small second group who have said no more. there's one person featured in the piece, a commercial fisherman and runs an interesting story in wisconsin. he voted for trump and when i first came across him last summer, he said he'd had it. he would not vote for him again. i went back in april, same place. he said i voted for change but this is not the change i voted for. >> what is the third bucket, dan? >> the third is the most important and holds the key to trump's presidency. they are the people who are conflicted. there are degrees of these people. some are quite conflicted by all the turmoil, all the chaos, all the disruption and, yet, they see a direction that he's trying to take the country and they see conservative policies they really like. they are, in a sense, willing to tolerate things they are uncomfortable with. they think, in policy terms, trump is way, way, way better than anything the democrats would do. there is another group of these people and i can't quantify it. this is not a scientific survey, but they are people who are pulling back. there's in question that over time, as i talk to them, they were more and more explicit about their unhappiness with trump. i don't know where they are going to be in 2020, but right now they are on the fence. >> the question is, how many of those people are there? how many people took a chance on trump and turning and how many more in the first group that they are support is hardened by what they think is an assault on trump, the media and establish is out to get him. >> depends on how optimistic we are. there's not a lot of optimism in the numbers. when trying to figure out what will happen for 2020, will those voters feel that there is hope with a new democratic candidate or just stay with 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president's personal attorney, we learned yesterday, michael cohen, got hired three days into the trump administration to help at&t on the merger the president said he was going to kill, then racked up a total of nearly $3 million from them and other corporate clients. drain the swamp? what about the trump cabinet expenses? drain the swamp? drain it with what, ben carson's $31,000 dining set. the $139,000 ryan syn key spent on doors? let me say that again. for those of you who were working around the clock, night and day, to try to get your kids to be able to do better than you have done, like my parnents trid to do with me, it's my dream. think about your salary and the fact that ryan spent $139,000 on doors. what about scott pruitt? luxury flights and sweetheart deals from a lobbyist. don't forget secretary mnuchin, he took a government jet that you paid for, your taxes paid for, along with his wife, to watch the eclipse atop ft. knox's gold, stack of gold. i mean, drain the swamp? what a joke. and, i guess this joke stops being funny for donald trump whose basically using us all for suckers in his cabinet who are all using us all for suckers. when we actually start investigating why a guy like michael cohen, who basically isn't even a practicing lawyer, according to what most court records have said and documents have said. michael cohen got paid $600,000 to deal with one of the most complicated mergers and most significant mergers in recent history. mergers and acquisitions. is he a mergers and acquisition lawyer? no. he's a street fighter. that was just a direct pay off. that was a direct bribe. the bigger question for at&t, the bigger question for time warner, the bigger question for their stockholders is whether this entire deal is frozen up because there has to be an investigation. did that money really go to cohen? did it go straight to the president's pockets? where did it go? did it go to pay off other porn stars or playboy bunnies? where did that money go? how do they allow that at&t merger to go through as long as this isn't being investigated? well, welcome to the show. delivering a pitch. national affairs analyst and executive producer and show host of show time's "the circus," john heilemann. we have donny deutsche with us, a legend. we have republican strategist and political commentator, susan, former treasury official and "morning joe" analyst, steve rattner and political reporter, heidi. a new york times reporter, michael schmidt. mika has the morning off. we are going to talk to michael about rudy giuliani's law firm elbowing him out of the way because they were embarrassed of what he did on tv and because members by thursday had enough. willie, listen, i know washington. i have been around it for a quarter of a century. i understand that some congressmen, some senators, some members of the administration, former members of the administration, they get paid by lobbyists to make good with the white house. but, i have never heard of anything like a $600,000 payment to a guy who knows nothing about mergers, knows nothing about acquisitions. $600,000 to make this at&t deal go through. they admitted that yesterday. to make the at&t deal go through and my question is, where did that money go through to? because, i highly doubt that donald trump would let it sit in michael cohen's account. >> donald trump, during the campaign came out strongly against the at&t/time warner merger. at&t had reason to be concerned when donald trump was elected, probably didn't expect he was going to be elected and were scrambling. michael cohen is not a lobbiest. he's not a registered lobbiest. they thought he had the ear of donald trump and might be able to put his thumb on the scale and make the deal go through. that didn't work for them. a report says on the very first business day of the trump administration, the president's personal attorney, michael cohen, signed a contract with at&t to receive $600,000 for the merger of time warner which they sued the block last november. documents obtained show cohen made the deal on january 23, 2017, within three days of president trump's inauguration and four days after cohen publicly announced he would represent trump as president and resign from the trump administration, the organization, to avoid a conflict. at&t paid cohen for insights, but the post found it unclear what cohen, a real estate attorney and taxi cab operator could provide on tele-com matters. the money they paid cohen is four times more, four times more than it paid any actual outside lobbyist in the same period of time. a spokesman said cohen was a hired consultant, not a lobbyist and the consulting fees were in line with market terms for advisory. joe? >> yeah, lots of luck on that, proving that to your shareholders. john heilemann, everything just seems to keep exploding out there, surrounding. we have more stories coming out every day about michael cohen, more stories coming out about pay offs to michael cohen. michael aven michael avanatti releasing it. where is all the information coming from and secondly, how impactful is the $600,000 pay off to michael cohen and who cohen passed the money through and how does that impact at&t in the merger? >> a lot of questions there. the first thing i would say to answer the question where it's coming from, joe, i don't know the answer. i will say this, having spent some time with michael avanatti on "the circus" as a human observation, you walk around new york city, washington, d.c., los angeles with the guy and he is being treated by a fair segment of the public as a hero. he's become a celebrity and, in the same way you have seen bob mueller venerated by the half of the country that wants to see donald trump thrown out of office, you have a popular view that this guy is, like bob mueller, their hope for changing the country. when you get that kind of popular support, where there's people out there rooting for you, you become a television celebrity and seen as a political figure, you start to get information from a lot of different sources. people start to want to feed you stuff. some of it is bunk, some might not be. he's, right now, with his firm, inundated with people sending tips, leads, documents, all kinds of things. i don't know what the sources are. there's a lot, a ground swell of people out there who see him as a vehicle and a repository for stuff. so, that's one thing. the second thing is, i think that this notion that michael cohen's llc, this llc, essential consulting looks like a slush fund for influence peddling, some from foreign, some from domestic sources, some corporate, some other. there's a big story here and we are all interested in the sources of the money. but, the larger questions, now, are going to be and there are things reporters are going to chase for days and weeks to come, what that money gets spent on. you raised it in your opening thing, your opening statement. the question, how was it used? who got the payments? that is going to be a fruitful line of questioning for investigators going forward. as to the at&t thing, i will say, i think there is, i don't want to be naive about this one point which is big companies in america buy influence in american politics. a lot of people don't like that, but we have a system of organized bribery, corruption in this country that lives in washington, d.c., that has to do with packs and lobbyists. there are a lot of companies scrambling with their hair on fire when donald trump got elected to figure out how to get to this guy, how do we influence this guy? the normal ways of doing it aren't going to work. they turn to michael cohen. i'm not saying that's a good thing or making an excuse for it. an explanation for what happened, i think that's what happened and clearly, at&t is one of those companies. >> boy, it's, like i said, it happens. but, this is so much more than most lobbyists get. >> yes. >> again, donny, the question is, is that really money that stayed with michael cohen? did it go through a slush fund? you have known cohen for a long time. we both know donald trump. i find it hard to think donald trump would take a meeting from anybody, i find it impossible to believe he would take a meeting with anybody as a favor to michael cohen, knowing he was going to make $600,000 of him taking that meeting. you are sitting there laughing for the same reason. anyone that knows, it's absolutely propostrouse. donald trump would not have allowed michael cohen to make $600,000 on his back because of a at&t meeting. >> i spoke to michael yesterday. michael, first of all, said basically the companies reached out to him, this is according to michael, and said, look, there's one thing about this guy, this president. he says if you are a company, this is michael, if you are a company doing business with him, nobody knows how he is going to react. nobody understands the mind of donald trump. his kids do, i'm probably next in line. he believes that's valuable. that's michael's point of view. whether that money was going to trump, all i can say is this, clearly i have no knowledge of that. every time i think, why would this guy who is worth a billion dollars, he says ten, get involved in trump university to get an extra 100 bucks in his pocket. could he say, wow, i could make an extra few hundred grand. that's not possible. then you go, of course it's possible. clearly, none of us know the answer to that. michael, as i said, when i spoke to him yesterday, he said i'm in a fighting mood. corey li corey lewandowski got it. let's not get head faked. did rudy giuliani's media blitz put off his partners at his new york law firm? we'll have the late es on giuliani's resignation from the firm. we'll be right back. it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and 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of nbc. he managed to found cnbc and establish this very network, msnbc. that's a light resume, tom. >> joe? >> boy, that reminds me from a scene from "a hard day's night" where an old man yells to john lennon and says i won the war. john lennon says i bet you're sorry you did. i bet he's sorry he founded this network and cnbc. that's a lot on your shoulders, tom. >> "morning joe" is the ultimate trophy for past efforts. >> we'll take that. a diplomat. wow. >> let's start with the ads we sfrau democrats in congress. what did we learn? what did they tell us? >> there's two things. one, if you want to influence a population, infiltrate them on social issues. that played out in the ads, the right or left, creating an incident on the left to amplify the right or vice versa. they tried creating physical events to amplify in the virtual world. we talked about homeland the last time we were here. they did a great example. >> what is something they set up? >> an anti-hillary clinton rally in florida. they called people on the phone and got them to show up to the rally in the hopes they would create a situation, it looks like real americans out there doing the protest. the other thing is they will play on both sides of black lives matter. we should get out and support it and cops, can you see what is happening with this? the other is muslim issues. when they do this, the other thing they are doing is reconning the american audience. whoever shows up to the rallies, those are the people you re-engage in social media and the influence inside the united states of america. that still happens today. >> you mentioned that homeland, we covered this so extraordinarily in art form this past year. the president's statement, near the end of the season it wasn't the russians to blame for this, it was americans to blame for this because we were so divided. it is those fault lines that we see on prime time cable news that we hear on talk radio, that we see on websites and the russians just pick up on that, find these natural divides and then drive a stake in the heart of it. >> that's exactly right. the forefathers saw it that way. turn a crack into a chasm. whatever the divide is, exploit it. they hit on every polarizing issue socially and politically running into the election and whatever stuck, they amplified that further. we also forget these ads were the smallest component. they didn't have to create negative content. there was so much american content to reamplify and repurpose. they took it and repurposed it and rebroadcast it. that's the most efficient way to do it. >> joe, you have been all over this story. what do you make of facebook's response? this is a problem that can never be resolved? >> facebook, first of all, was honest. it's refreshing to hear them say they can never fix this problem. we have seen, for example, a lot of content when somebody reposts, facebook doesn't get rid of that. that's an american post. they don't want to delete the content. to the point of negativity, sometimes they weren't negative, they were positive, pumping up certain communities. black for black, they were promoting black businesses and wanted them to sign up and offer promotions and be part of the community. we covered it because it was a way they were gaining information from americans and using that information, at some point in the future. they did play both sides. we saw an anti-beyonce rally after a pro-beyonce rally. this is a big loophole and sophisticated strategy. if you have americans going to rallies taking photos, we saw it with a guy who built the hillary clinton cage in florida, they take photos, upload them. that's american organic content that facebook won't delete. that helps russia weaponize their social media. >> mark zuckerberg is worth $60 billion, $70 billion. i don't buy we can't do much about it. mark zuckerberg, if i was mark zuckerberg, worth $60 billion and i created potential danger for the country, take $10 billion and say we are going to solve this. it is solvable, certainly. we are making steady progress as they run the warm and fuzzy ads. what do you think the corporate responsibility and moral responsibility and fiscally their responsibility is here? >> it's a great question. facebook saying they are going to hire a lot of people, thousands of people to scrutinize this stuff, maybe that will help and go a long way. i think you are raising the broader issue, is self-regulation enough? when we only had a handful of markets available, we developed a political broadcasting rule regime, equal opportunities, reasonable access, lowest common denominator pricing. a huge number of ways to make sure broadcasting couldn't over influence elections. ska scarcity, that's about the whole game. i think we are going to face the same question, are these platforms so powerful that self-regulation really isn't enough? we have to step in here and come up with appropriate rules that deal with the power here. it's a lot more powerful to do the kind of data targeting they are doing to do individual by individual influence than broadcasting as a medium ever had. i think we are going to find that the russian dark corner here is one small issue of social media divisiveness, social media stimulating hatred and we have to come up with a broader government regulation. >> i would add, facebook is a small part. google hasn't said anything about the youtube channels created. twitter hasn't released all their handles. the 3,000 ads are a fraction of the 80,000 posts. we really don't know the full extent. >> clint, if you are advising the next president because this president has made it clear he doesn't want anything done that would curb russia's influence on facebook and other social media circles. if you are advising the next president to take care of the issues you all brought up, shelby brought up, this is one small, dark corner of the internet, what will you do? what is your suggestion? >> the big thing is working with the social media companies to understand foreign manipulators. the one thing is government has is the intelligence community. they often times pick up on these things early. we talk in cyber, there's a cyber attack out of a foreign country, we share mallware. we have to do the same thing with social media. if we know they are trying to influence you, we need to notify the social media companies. more importantly, this is taking on devastating effects around the world. if you look at southeast asia, facebook is a platform in cambodia, meyanmar, philippines. if i was a foreign country right now and i wanted to influence one of my adversaries in africa or southeast asia, i would be on social media doing it. we need to help those companies out. >> we have been talking about social media and devisiveness. you are part of a project to try to, let's say, narrow the gap between both sides. tell us about it. >> donny, earlier in the show was talking about how there used to be a time we could talk more about sports and pop culture. trump has boosted news ratings but, believe it or not sports ratings are lagging. a minute ago talking of bringing the broadcast rule regime to social media. i'm involved in win view games bringing social media to broadcasting. talk about how europe has led the way on data protection in terms of the facebook issue. it's also led the way on this exciting new way to watch sports on television. you were talking about yankees/red sox before. what they have in europe is $160 billion industry, bigger than comcast and disney combined where people are playing along on their smartphones, predicting what is going to happen next on any sports television. we have people doing it with basketball or last night's red sox/yankee's game. is there going to be more than two strikeouts in this inning? yes or no? you get 20 or 25 questions coming at you in the course of an inning or the course of a quarter of basketball. it's a way to draw people into the broadcast experience, taking advantage of the poll of mobile and social media to hopefully create an exciting way for sports to be enjoyed on television. >> wow. >> beyond the larger and more obvious point that network tv ratings are down because people consume media differently, how do you account for the dip in sports ratings? even for big events, they are not what they used to be. is there something else other than we consume media differently? >> there are a few things at play. millennials watch television, consume media differently. people have so many viewing options that people plopped down and watched for three hours. if it's not close, they are out of there, watching something else. a huge amount of money is poured on what goes on live in an arena or stadium in terms of entertainment. since hi-def television, nothing is going on in the living room to pull social experience and doing things that involve social media more in the living room. europe is way ahead of us on this. 65 million people a year playing along with their sports, predicting what is going to happen next on their mobile phones. for some reason, it never came to the united states. it's a game of skill we do. you can win money. hq trivia is a phenomena. 200 million people showing up a night to play. we test your sports iq and can do the same with sports television. >> i have to check that out. thank you so much. clint, shelby, thank you as well. still ahead, with a log jam of nominations and must pass spending bills, a number of republicans are pushing mitch mcconnell to cancel the august recess. one is bill kassidy. he will be our guest next on "morning joe." do ndo not misjudgenity quiet tranquility. with the power of 335 turbo-charged horses the lincoln mkx, more horsepower than the lexus rx350 and a quiet interior from which to admire them. the lincoln spring sales event is here. for a limited time get 0% apr on the lincoln mkx. plus get $1000 bonus cash. moderate to severe 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with you is senator mccain, which you would acknowledge has a different kind of moral force on these kinds of questions, given his history and obviously he came out to some people's surprise and denounced he was going to be against her. do you think his position on this is going to have any kind of significant consequence for members of your caucus or giving cover to others who might be on the fence. now that mccain is going away, they want to make sure they are with the senator from arizona, senior senator? >> i can't speak for others, but i can speak for myself. i look at those who voted for john brennan. john brennan was number four in the cia when the things the folks object to about gina haspel were put in place. he helped come up with a policy that was implemented. 36 or something like that democrats voted for john brennan when obama nominated him, who clearly was more involved in this decision making than was gina haspel. those are some of the same folks objecting to gina 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really good book. >> thank you. >> i make fun of you, but it's great. so set the scene for us. >> charlie martyr is a world war ii hero and academic. he gets congressional seat. i kind of fibbed on the ruled. i know you can't be appointed to a house sit but it's fiction. he moved down to washington with his very strong independent zoologist wife margaret. and he wants to do good. he wants to help his fellow veterans and he ends up just having to make compromise after compromise and these thing you know he's embroiled in a scandal having to do with a secret society. where people would engage in the most debauch rueress behavior. >> jake, your book, "the hellfire" club, has given rise to the question, is washington actually the home of secret societies to this day? what do you think? you talk to everybody. there a bunch of secret clubs there? >> i don't know of any, but i can't imagine that there aren't. >> me either. >> i mean wh, what we know of powerful men, wealthy men, we read about it every day in the paper, i can't imagine that there aren't secret societies. it was a fun way, a fictional way, to try to make sense of things from that era. like columnist joe asap actually doing spying for the cia. or ambassador joseph kennedy convincing mccarthy not to campaign against his son in 1952. i don't know why all that happened. but all that did really happen. >> yes. could i ask quickly, you mentioned in the book somebody who i admire a great deal, margaret chase smith. >> she's a hero of mine. >> she was strong, she was one of the last of the old time -- not one of the last at that time, but she was a liberal republican from the northeast who knew what she thought and why. >> she's incredible. i knew a little bit about her but not until i did the research for this book, and she is incredible. going to the floor of the senate and giving her declaration of conscience speech. i revere edward r. murrow but he didn't take a scapepel to mccharactm mccarthy until 1954. what she did, a republican, while also running for re-election, it wasn't like she's retiring and all of a sudden here's my courage. she did it while pursuing a career in washington. history recognizes her for that. >> only woman in the senate. >> that raises the question about what's happening right now. as you have republicans, we ask almost every morning on this show, what is the cost of stepping up to the bank of microphones and just saying out loud and explicitly that what the president said or did today is wrong and we shouldn't stand for it. why don't we see more of that right now today? have they not learned from the era of mccarthy where the people whose legacies are held in high esteem are the people who did come in early and speak out? >> you guys know because you're smart, senator robert taft, mr. republican, senate majority leader of ohio in the 1950s when this book takes place ran for president, lost eisenhower in the primaries. he thought his legacy was going to be secure. then came mccarthy. he didn't do anything about mccarthy. he would say to reporters, why do you cover him? it's the same thing we hear from people today, why do you cover the president? at the end of the day, robert taft kind of dropped des in 1953. his legacy is now in part you didn't stand up to mccarthy. you just hope history sorts out the rest. >> one of the parallels in history is the character in the 1950s, joseph wells. have you no sense of decency. >> no sense of decency, taking him on, which was the beginning of the end for mccarthy. but up until that point and up until the point that mccarthy was censored, a lot of people have a lot of anxiety. how is this going to end? is it ever going to end? again, as i said earlier, history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes. there's a lot of rhyming. >> joe. >> well, there's also, jake, and isn't it extraordinary, historically extraordinary, that there is a common denominator, though they're spaced almost 70 years apart between joseph mccarthy and donald trump. and that is of course cohen was the political mentor to both of these demagogues. >> it's incredible when you think about the fact that roy cohen, i think it's fair to call him one of the worst people in american political life in the 20th century. he was just a smear merchant, a liar, part of one of the worst chapters. the idea that he had a second life in new york city as a power broker. and the idea that he would be a mentor to anyone, let alone president trump, is remarkable and incredibly disappointing. he was a bad, immoral, loathsome person. the book is "the hellfire club." that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage. >> thanks, mika, thanks, joe. this morning, we've got a lot to cover. starting with the growing outrage. sources reveal a white house aide mocked senator john mccain and his battle with brain cancer. this, as a fox business analyst incorrectly claims torture, well, it worked on mccain. >> the fact is john 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"morning joe." it is friday, november 16th. joe, what a week of recounts, temper tantrums and political turbulence. >> what a week. look what's happening in florida. broward missed the deadline by two minutes. that didn't get counted. but they're going to a hand recount there. caseo in the state of georgia. maine, my goodness, maine, too, goes democratic. a lot of people didn't expect that. you know what i always say, as goes northeast harbor, so goes france. and so was the case in maine, too. jared golden squeaks out a win for the democrats in a district that went for donald trump by double digits. and you know how he did it? he focused in on the affordable care act. that bought democrats yet another seat. you look out at orange county, my gosh, as tom nichols said, congratulations, republicans, you just lost leggan county. it looks like it's going to be a complete wipeout. i remember when loretta sanchez beat bob doran back in the 1990s. it was a stunner, an absolute shock. look at how red orange counties was just two with years ago. now, mika, it is a sea of blue. a huge, huge crushing defeat for trump republicanism. we'll see if they try to change their tact over the next couple of years. and any swing districts. also, mika, california, some really, really devastating news. >> of course. we'll start there. there was a dramatic rise in the number of people unaccounteder for in northern california's camp fire. 631 people are now missing. many of them elderly. the sheriff says the jump is the result of officials going back to the records generated during the most intense time of the fire. the death toll has also climbed to 63. as 7 more bodieser were discovered. the fire has burned through 140,000 acres. officials say it's now 40% contained. public schools across the bay area will be closed today because of bad air quality. president trump is expected to visit california tomorrow. we will be following this story all morning long, but that -- that number of people unaccounted for is just staggering as well as what happened to the city of paradise. >> it's jumped so much. >> so along with joe, willie andmy, we have donnie deutsch, susan delpercio, john meachum, and nbc news national political reporter heidi prisbe had lla. >> willie, i think it's time for us to actually go to our pulitzer prize winning john meachum for archaic references. >> it's what he does. >> it's what he does best. but john meachum, we're going to try to keep it within the next 50 years. orange county, 1966, the birth of the reagan revolution, the birth -- well, really, of modern conservatism now. look at those congressional maps. it was still the orange county we grew up with over the past 50 years. now it is a complete sea of blue. trumpism, there has been a -- voters have passed judgment on trumpism. take a bow, republicans, you lost reagan country. >> and initially, of course, it was james k.bolk country. >> there it is. >> as you know. >> that's what i mean. >> so mark it down. my work is done. if the base of reaganism is now so blue, it is a sign of the extraordinary level of porlerzation, really. >> and you look and you see in 1966 the reason why ronald reagan did so well in orange county, the reason why republicans started sweeping orange county starting in 1966 watts you have this vast, sprawling suburb. it was suburbia. there was a reflexive move away from liberalism, from over the.top 1960s liberalism. they moved right and they started voting republican. and here we are, 50 years later, 52 years later suddenly those same suburbanites look at what republicanism has become under donald trump and, like suburban voters across america, what do they do? they go too much. too much. now they're moving back. >> for something like me who woke up to orange county, it was an article of conservatism, that is an astonishing map to look at, to have it all blue. there are suburbs across the south, too, starting to vote and you can't take them for granted. susan collin, the only republican in maine, is now the only republican from the northeast. it's happening in pockets around the country. >> and she's up in two with yea years. go deep boot heart of texas. look at the dallas suburbs. pete sessions wiped out by this wave again in the suburbs where suburban voters say we don't agree with donald trump. we voted republican our entire life. we're not following him any further wherever he's going. >> that's good. finally, at least. but you have to wonder, sometimes you think is he uneducated, does the president not understand history.? i almost think you have to try to lose this badly. >> you really do. >> let's go to the growing questions of what has inspired president trump's two days of public tirades . yesterday universities will some day study what highly conflicted and not senate approved bob mueller and his gang of democrats thugs have done to destroy people. stop right there. >> mika, do you know what university would be studying this if it had not already been shut down by the proper authorities? >> joe, it's too much of a hang curve. don't do the trump university things. >> you just did it for me, donnie. >> they would do it at trump university, donnie, but nowhere else. so mika, he goes on talking about crooked hillary, comey, e lepage -- >> he's getting the questions from mueller and freaking out. i know one cannot make that connection, but one can certainly surmise that at the time the questions from the mueller probe are coming into this white house. at the time, the democrats have control and the president is finally being educated of the fact that there is nothing he can do when he is compelled to hand over his tax returns and answer questions. >> kor . >> yeah. >> at the time the president finally realizes for the first time in his life he is cornered and there is nowhere to go and at the time that one might surmise his son is potentially on the list of those that might be indicted that this president is freaking out. >> the only reason you would surmise that is because there are reports that don jr. has told friends he may be indicted in the next couple of weeks. that freakout came a few weeks after the president claimed to know the inner workings of the mueller investigation saying they had no collusion which, of course, is ridiculous. they're going absolutely nuts, they're screaming and shouting at people, etcetera, etcetera. this reminds me of what john had he -- heilman said that everything donald trump tweeted out is confessional. >> it would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic, frankly. to have a president of the united states spinning out of control and focused only on himself and not on our country at this point is devastating. we have the g20 coming up, we have north korea testing missiles again. we have a lot of things going on and this president is strictly wrapped up in himself and he is spinning out of control. >> and so why is he doing that? mika mentioned it. just as the president's lawyer said they were preparing trump's final questions to bob mueller's written questions, the president spent more than four hours meeting with attorneys on monday and 90 minutes wednesday night. that's according to people familiar with the sessions who tell "the washington post" trump attorney rudy giuliani and others briefed on the questions tell the paper there are at least two dozen questions, all of which relate to activities and episodes from before president trump's election. quote, there are some that create more issues for us legally than others, giuliani said, adding that some were unnecessary, some were possible traps and we might consider some as irrelevant and more evidence that the special counsel appears to be the at the front of the president a's mind as displayed in the transcript of his interview with the daily caller. the president was asked about the appointment of matt kitaker. saying this whitaker is somebody that's very respected. i knew him only as he pertained, you know, as he was with jeff sessions. as far as i'm concerned, this is an investigation that should never have been brought. it should never have had had. it's something that should never have been brought. it's an illegal investigation. it's very interesting because when you talk about not senate confirmed, mueller is not senate confirmed. that answer being compared to the question about the firing of fbi director james comey. >> when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made up story. >> so, joe, go back to the daily caller interview. the president is asked about acting attorney general whitaker and talks almost immediately about the mueller investigation. >> he just walks into it. maybe for christmas this year, somebody can just get a stamp and just make it easier for him that says obstruction on it and just stamp it on his forehead. it's so obvious. you look at what he said the there. look at what he said, as you said to lester holt, what he told the russian foreign minister, what he told the russian ambassador of the united states about the firing of comey. he obstructs in the light of day. >> the absurd moves he makes will get heightened. we're seeing a different guy now. donald trump a few weeks ago are scary. now he's more like dr. evil where he comes on and instead of getting angry, you kind of almost chuckle. there's a patheticness to him that's starting to show that hasn't been there in the past. when you're a company and you're bankrupt, you still own the banks. in a strange way, he said, here, take the keys. so he's never not been in control. and we're going to see now a caged animal. and i think we're going to see behavior so much more abberant than anything we've seen. there's a great movie, the seduction of joe tana. he plays a congressman melvin douglas who at some point in the camera starts talking french in the congressional hearing. i think we're going to see something happen to donald trump on camera, some of the tweets go to a new level that even republicans are going to start to come out from under the rocks. >> i think so. and john meachum, we've had a discussion time and again, you and i, mika, talking about whether the institutions would hold. the institutions have held. most importantly voters went out and provided the ultimate matesonian check on donald trump's power with their vote last week. but it's happening everywhere. you look at a federal judge. we're going to be talking about the story in a minute. you look at a federal judge. this i guess it was yesterday in the d.c. circuit who was asked by the trump administration to deal a setback to the mueller investigation and throw out some charges. a federal judge appointed by donald trump refused and said they've done nothing wrong. maybe when you do the soul of america part two, maybe the soul of the institutions, they haven't been founding that. >> i do believe there's a resilience and a durability to the rule of rule of law and ultimately i think to the popular pressure. as you know better than anybody, congress is far more often a mirror rather than a molter. the caucus would at least be looking at things like the orange county results, looking at the results from the past week or two and saying, you know what? we hooked our wagon to this guy but we don't want to have that wagon go straight off the cliff with the entire trump organization speaking russian instead of french. >> not sure -- >> i just wonder, i just wonder, you know, remember all the people who have been with donald trump, you know, if you were with ronald reagan, if you were with nixon, you're with george w. bush, you were there because you believed to some extent in the person, as well. trump's official base, the people in washington, are hired hands. they're not true believers, it seems to me. and the congressional base lives in fear of him, but fear is not going to -- i think, if fear is what's driving them, fear of their voters ultimately is going to be more compelling than fear of trump himself. and we might, might, might beginning to see that. >> so here are the details of that story joe just mentioned. a federal judge is refusing to toss out the case by special counsel robert mueller against a russian business accused of helping to fund moscow's efforts to meddle in the 2016 election. the judge yesterday ruled against the firm. concord management and consulting. which had been seeking to have the indictment against it dismissed saying prosecutors made up a crime to score political points for the probe and to profits legitimacy. the company is accused of using an extensive social media campaign to influence the election. in her 31 page opinion, the judge who president trump appointed to the u.s. says they were trying to avoid foreign election and lobbying disclosure requirements, conquered his own by a russian businessman known as putin's which i have due to his close ties with the russian president. the judge said no. >> and willie, there's another great example, again, of federal judges, especially, from the very beginning have proven that whitaker is wrong, that the federal judiciary is an equal branch to the executive and to the legislative branches and it's proven time and time again whether they're republicans, democrats, whether they're appointed by donald trump or barack obama, you know what? they follow the law and they hold this president and others in check. >> and it's another reminder that this investigation is going to continue. the president can tweet, he can scream, mike pence can say in may, hey, it's time to to wrap it up. rudy giuliani can go on every talk show and talk about why this investigation has to end. they can file lawsuits. this investigation will continue until bob mueller has what he needs to make a case or to present a case that nothing happened, that the president had nothing to do with interference and the country can move on from it. but everything we see on twitter from the president, everything we saw yesterday, once again, is just is noise and it's noise that bob mueller is not listening to. >> well, the question, willie, is whether you can draw a direct line between the president's behavior and what he knows that the rest of us don't know. >> right. >> because like mika said, they've had those questions, they've had those questions for a while. why aren't they answering them? we also know that there may be other sealed indictments. what does the president and his team know about potential indictments against people in his administration and maybe even in his inner circle? and you can definitely draw a direct line between his tweets and his meetings with his lawyers. we know he had a 90-minute meeting wednesday with his lawyers. one thing we know for certain is this is indeed escalating. you hear from don jr. himself as well as folks like roger stone saying they may anesthetic themselves to be indicted. roger stone releasing those texts in order to try and buffer himself to say no, actually, randy credico was the guy who was the go-between with wikileaks. and the question now is when is mueller going to come forward with whatever his final determination is? certainly he didn't want to find himself in the same position that comey was in, being accused of dumping information right before an election. well, we're past that election now. >> yeah. all right. well, still ahead on "morning joe," we know george conway isn't afraid to speak out and he's not alone. kellyanne conway's husband is a group of conservative lawyers pushing back at the president's worst impulses. we'll talk to two of the members next on "morning joe." but first, bill carin wkarins w check on the forecast. >> the sleet came in about two hours later than expected and snow totals were higher than expected. a lot of people went to work thinking they could get home just fine and it was the opposite. it was a nightmare for millions and millions of people from central jersey through eastern pennsylvania, next in, southern new england, and it was one of those snows that compacted right down and it was extremely, extremely slick getting up and down any hills were a nightmare. people had five, six, seven-hour commutes home last night. it's better now. the snow totals, many areas in the new england areas were anywhere between 10 to 12 inches. new york city had 6 inches of snow. that was the snowiest new york city day in 136 years. this was exceptional. right now, still snowing in up state new york through the hudson valley through northern new england. by the time we get to noon today, it clears out quickly. it's breezy and sunny. all the sidewalks will rapidly improve as we go through the day. the rest of the forecast for the country looks okay. we'll try to get the airports back going again and catch up, especially, in areas of the northeast. over the weekend, not a lot of highlights. just another cold air mass coming down from the northern plains and a tiny bit of snow, but nothing compared to the big snowstorm. and the big cold outbreak. it snowed in houston this week. next in, we saw what happened yesterday. what a week the to remember. let's hope the remember of the winter doesn't look like what we just went through. unbelievable, mid november. you're watching morning joe. we'll be right back. right back. oh milk. am i willing to pay the price for loving you? 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>> there were so many reasons why this was necessary. >> try. >> right from the beginning, i was part of a group who signed a letter called originalists against trump. this guy has been running for president since the early 2000s, has switched parties for as long as he's been able to vote, essentially. i was concerned about, you know, his principals, whether or not he had any, and he soon proved to have very little. and what you've seen is him really corroding legal norms and the rule of law between talking about birth right citizenship which is clearly unconstitutional under the 14th amendment to his newest appointment of the acting attorney general, which needs senate confirmation. he has normalized ignoring legal norms and it's time for someone to speak up against it. >> i'm wondering, paul, if for you early on in the administration when the president questioned the legal authority of a republican appointed federal judge in washington state, if that wasn't when a lot of alarm bells went off for you. it certainly was for me when, you know, i think the first time at last in my lifetime i remember a president of the united states questioning the authority of a federal judge because he didn't like the outcome of the case. >> i think that's right. everybody has their own breaking point in this story. for some of us, it goes -- it's more recent. for me, it's gone back quite a while. the incident you referred to of federal -- of a president essentially saying that the independent judiciary should not be independent is truly a transgression of the separation of powers. the concepts of checks and balances that is at the core of our activity, likewise interference in criminal investigations, those sorts of things are beyond normal. they're beyond the bounds of what is normal political discourse and normal political disagreement. and they really strike at very fundamental values of american society. >> you know, marissa, i wonder, and i'm sure you've had -- you clerked for clarence thomas, i'm sure, like me you grew up with a lot of republican friends and a lot of republican family members who wonder why you didn't fall blindly in line for trump. >> i actually didn't. >> oh, really? >> i actually have democrats as parents. i just happened to read ein democracy rand when i was 12 and i was utterly corrupted. >> so your last two or three years have been easier than mine at family reunions. >> i love it. >> be that as it may, i wonder if you've noticed if you have conservative friends in washington that it's usually the lawyers that understand a little bit more, that when i start talking about the breaching of constitutional norms and i start talking about the president not respecting the power of the federal judiciary and i start talking about checks and balances, a lot of my friends eyes glaze over. it seems conservative lawyers that i talk to team to get it a bit more and understand why even if a guy is cutting taxes and appointing people to the supreme court, it's not enough if everybody is breaching constitutional norms. >> look at hill and say, well, look at all these judges. we're shaping the judiciary. let's sort of ignore it. his words have legal effect. when he tweets something, to me it's not enough to say, well, we have justice kavanaugh, we have justice gorsuch. when you start corroding constitutional norms over time and switching our over time, it's not okay. >> john meachum is going to likely ask you to -- what supreme court decision under the tyler administration had the most far-reaching impact on us today. >> i hope no one asks me that question. >> i thought we would throw a little edmund burke around because it's that kind of morning. >> ooh, burke. >> but i do have to what you just said that rings to true to ears for a layman, it is why 40% or so, 45% of the country has suspended, really, the whole jef fersonian capacity in public affairs. you pick a team and then you're for that team no matter what. you're actually arguing, it seems to me, that americans have a role to be umpires in politics and in life. you call balls and strike as you see them. >> a lot of people are in the administration. and at least in d.c., a lot of my friends. it's not in their interest to speak up against it. a lot of people are also, i think, afraid because the president has showed himself as capable, more than capable of tweeting against individuals and i think they just don't want to get on his bad side. >> paul, it's willie geist. one of the principal techniques of president trump, not just president trump but candidate trump and donald trump before that is to attack the source of information. so when a judge rules against him at trump university, he says that judge has mexican heritage and can't possibly be fair when considering this case. we talk a lot on this show about the institutions and whether or not they can stand up and hold against one man like donald trump. in your assessment of these first couple of years, have the institutions held, particularly in your area of the justice department? >> i would say the institutions have held, but they're under stress. one of my friends like to say the guardrails of democracy are buckling. they're still solid, but they are under great pressure. the career prosecutors at the department of justice, even the trump appointees, attorney general sessions and deputy attorney general rosenstein have been under tremendous pressure from the president to deviate from normal activity. and thank god for them, they've with stood the test so far. that's one of the reasons why the acting of attorney general whitaker is potentially problematic. it may signal a further buckling of that behavior that the department of justice is about doing justice, not about doing what's politically expedient. >> thank you both. we have much more ahead on the mueller probe, including a new filing from the special counsel's office. former trump campaign chair paul manafort has been meeting with robert mueller's team since september. now the special counsel wants a few more days before updating a judge on his cooperation. we'll talk about what that means for the russia probe straight ahead on "morning joe." ia probe ahead on "morning joe. ♪ ♪ the greatest wish of all... is one that brings us together. the lincoln wish list event is here. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with $0 down, $0 due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. only at your lincoln dealer. and a complimentary first month's payment. and butch.aura. and tank. and tiny. and this is laura's mobile dog grooming palace. laura can clean up a retriever that rolled in foxtails, but she's not much on "articles of organization." articles of what? 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(bob) the first call that we've made on the cellular system. facebook, chief executive mark zuckerberg is claiming ignorance on the heels of the "new york times" latest bombshell piece that zeroed in on executive's efforts to allegedly suppress data ahead of the elections. how do they never know? do they put him -- >> on a call with reporters yesterday, zuckerberg defended the social site and its executives innocence saying to suggest that we weren't interested in knowing the truth, or that we wanted to hide what we knew or that we wanted to prevent investigations is simply untrue. >> that's a lie of trumpian nature. that's incredible. >> i'm young and i'm sweet and i would never do this. >> that's all they ever tried to do. zuckerberg also has since cut ties with them. >> the report allegations that facebook worked with definers to spin anti semantic narratives against some of its critics like george soros. it claims that facebook's chief operating officer, cheryl sandberg, was the brains behind the decision to work with definers, although zuckerberg said she was, quote, also not involved. >> another lie. >> there's a strange thing at facebook that i have noticed. it may be true. some might say that they feel when they say something that makes it true. >> again, very -- >> and that's just not how it works. >> donnie, it really is and we've noticed this dealing with them almost trump-like -- >> being told what to believe. >> i guess they have been surrounded by people like donald trump that will just say yes to whatever they say. i mean, you look at cheryl sandberg yesterday, the "new york times" found one instance after another where she got angry whenever somebody tried to bring the truth to light. she got really angry with somebody in the management structure when they told board members the truth about the problems with the 2016 election. she got really angry when somebody had decided to go ahead and start investigating to see how much russia had infiltrated their network and was trying the to impact the 2016 election. achery time and again and my question yesterday was how was she still at facebook, first of all, and secondly, how does zuckerberg stay there? if he's going to put out statements that we all know are lies on their face? and had is what they have been doing. they've been covering up. they've been lying about the cover up. and then they've been lying about the news stories that bring up the cover up. they are lying. i mean, if you were an investor, why do you want to keep investing in a company with two people running it who just will not face up to their problems. >> joe, i think you've made an amazing analogy between trump and what that is unchecked power when you're wrapped in a cocoon. there are not people around you, there are not institutions around you, and you brought up something, also. cheryl sandberg, why is she in that job? she kind of makes the trains run on time kind of person. zuckerberg, when you're founding ceo and chairman, you're more in the think tank aspect of it. but she's the operator. and she's been very, very clever with her brand over the years and leaning in and clearly there's no leaning in here. and as a personal investor in facebook and the shares are down 20%, i want to know why she still has a job. the other irony is these new age companies like facebook, the companies of the people, the companies built on democracy and fairness and every man deserves -- you know, every person deserves access and all these things, the irony is they behave more reprehensible than some of the old guard fortune 50 companies. they are the ones acting like they are the men in the gray flannel suits. they are the man, so to speak. >> i think there's such a culture out there that is so insulated and so isolated they believe they're beyond reproach. again, no checks and no balances. but just think about what the "new york times" revealed yesterday. they use this old anti semantic trope when targeting conservative groups to turn them against facebook critic by trotting out the george soros conspiracy theories, which is absolutely beneath contempt. and any other ceo that did this or cfo would be fired that day for trotting out an anti semantic the trope like that and selling it to conservatives. on the other side of it, they go to the other side and want them to come out attacking anybody attacking facebook. ite one of the most cynical soleless things i've ever seen in corporate america. >> facebook clearly is playing in the political dark arts. it's amazing that george soros is a catch all boogeyman, whether it's in politics or business or anywhere else. you throw his name out and it implies something to a certain group of people. the question now, heidi, is congress ready to intervene at this point? based on what we've seen with the interference and now this big piece from the "new york times" front page yesterday, will congress step in? because these guys out there are the masters of the universe. they feel like they're untouchable and they have changed the world. and they have. but the one thing they may fear is if the united states government steps in and checks them in a way they haven't been checked before. >> so how do i be diplomatic about all this? y'all remember when zuckerberg came up to the hill and testified of and anticipation was that he was, you know, in for a whooping. and it just didn't happen because a lot of the members on that committee didn't understand even the bakes, it appeared, of how the technology worked to really give him an appropriate grilling. so we saw kind of a missed opportunity there. i think there are individual members who really understand this platform and understand there needs to be some kind of limits put in place. and eventually we will get there. and in the meantime, basically, facebook is -- continues to be in this kind of pr clean up mode meeting with journalists like myself and others to explain what they're doing wither their quote/unquote war rooms. but i will say that the challenge for congress is that the platforms continue to evolve. i mean, even if you get a handle on facebook, there is a lot of reporting to suggest that bad players are moving over to other platforms like reddit. and so it is a colossal problem. we don't have the answers yet. >> heidi, i'm just curious, when they talk to you, when their pr people talk to you, do they lie to you? do they say they didn't do this? because every time we have talked to people connected with facebook, and we haven't done it in about six months, but it's always -- they're always lying. they're always saying, oh, no, this didn't happen. oh, no, we didn't know about this until -- and then a newspaper article comes out a couple weeks later that proves they're lying. >> i would say that i didn't detect any lies in our meetings with them, but then again, they are not putting the people, joe, in the position of knowing who are interfacing with us, the media. they are people who are cut from the pr cloth and not into the inner mechanics of the institution. and i mean, their goal is basically to put the best possible face on what they're doing now going forward and continuing to try and push us to not focus so much on the damage that was wraught previously. nancy pelosi's rise to house speakership as the rhetoric against her is upped. we'll ask one person where he stands on the fight. 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bad. we struggle between light and dark. every era, every moment is defined by the extent to which we win 51% of the time. our better angels win out over our worst instincts. i think this vote two weeks ago and it continues to unfold, it should unfold, it's a bit of american impatience that we think recounts and trying to pull off these complicated elections should only take three hours. this is not democracy by amazon prime. these are complicated things. it's hard. my sense is that the country has said that we are nervous about the excesses of this wildly unconventional president. there's still 40% or so of the country that is for whatever reason willing to take a bet on him, take this flyer on him. but, you know, they were willing to take a flyer on joe mccarthy and a flyer, a lot of folks on george wallace and huey long and that didn't work out in the end. we saw a piece of that in the mid-term elections it won't here either. >> good starters doesn't finish well and in this case, 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do anything to stop it. >> as to the ledge allocation, actually support it because i wrote it. i think it would be good for the country. we'll leave it up to mitch and the leadership how to take that vote if we take it. i do hope we take that vote. >> senator judiciary committee chairman chuck grassley and fellow committee member lindsey graham showing that even the president's staunchest defenders are thinking it might be a good idea to proterms special counsel robert mueller. welcome back to "morning joe". it's friday, november 16th. we have donny deutsch along with republican strategist and msnbc political analyst, and heidi przybyla and joining the conversation national political reporter for axios, jonathan swan joins us. >> willie geist, here you have chuck grassley who runs the judiciary committee, lindsey graham who has been donald trump's apologist in chief, both agreeing with jeff flake they need to pass ledge allocation, they would support ledge allocation to protect robert mueller and, of course, mitch mcconnell is refusing to do that. is mitch mcconnell going to be seen as the person who actually destroyed the supreme court selection process and who also refused to protect an independent investigation into vladimir putin's interference with american politics? >> his is the opinion that counts. he's the majority leader. he'll continue to be the majority leader through january when the new congress comes in. joe, he's never shown even a wink or nod or willingness whatsoever to entertain this idea of ledge allocation. the fair question to ask is why? when we have republicans like chuck grassley and lindsey graham saying we should put protection around robert mueller so he can complete his work. why is leader mcconnell, what is the defense of it and what would be the harm in protecting bob mueller? it's not a question he's answered sufficiently. >> it's also very interesting, susan collins now, obviously, made a very unpopular vote on kavanaugh. she's in a state that is blue. she's up for re-election in a couple of years. i just wonder whether she's going to go along with flake and for the issue and go along with the vote the protext the special counsel. jonathan swan, it to ask you about donald trump. one thing robert mueller is looking at is obstruction justice. donald trump always provides prosecutors gracious plenty whenever he speaks to conservative websites and let's his guard down. he did it again with daily caller. >> it's a patent with the president. he gets in his comfort zone. he feels that he's in friendly company. he is in friendly company. but there was a moment the other day when he was in the oval office with theetail daily call. the question was you seemed happen with matthew whitaker. trump says a couple of nice things about whittaker and then goes into a diatribe in which he calls the investigation illegal. if whittaker ever goes before the senate to be confirmed that will be brought up as evidence that trump views him as a political battering ram and associates him with the mueller investigation and i'm sure it's something that the mueller team is looking at. it's really remarkable. i checked the transcript very carefully. the reporters didn't mention mueller's name at all at any point. trump inserted it into the conversation. >> incredible lack of discipline which he's shown time and time again. as you pointed out before especially with conservative news outlets. donny deutsch, i want to get back to mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell and the republicans will be defending the same number of seats in 2020 that democrats had to defend this year. you just wonder why mitch mcconnell will not protect robert mueller, will not protect an independent investigation into vladimir putin's attempts to interfere with american elections and, by the way, trump's director of national intelligence, trump's fbi director, i mean everybody that donald trump has appointed in the intel community all say, his department of homeland security secretary all say this is a threat to democracy. so i'm just curious. why would mitch mcconnell not want to protect that investigation? >> i find it particularly ironic. yesterday mitch mcconnell wrote an op-ed, we have to be bipartisan. same guy in 2010 that said the republicans only objective is to make sure barack obama does not get re-elected. this is mr. bipartisan who brought us merritt garland or actually didn't bring us. to me the entire cast of trump characters, he, i believe, will go down in history as the most cowardly and i don't understand the logic. this is the same guy that would not bring a bill to the floor to protect our vote progress sees for $250 million. no we don't need any extra safe guards. this is a man that has not gotten the memo as far as the way we really pralt as a country. one other thing about watching grassley and lindsey graham. trump does not have the fear factor on his side. you see a shift. the fear now is he's running afraid. that was always his big tool. you're starting to see the fraying. lindsey graham and chuck grassley would not have spoken this way three weeks ago. built hey i'm not saying absolutely going to get in front of it and drive it through. seems okay to me. a real shift. people are not afraid of donald trump any more. and that was always his big club, fear. >> the question is, are they -- they may not be afraid of him and what he can do to them politically but are they afraid how he'll act if he's further cornered. joe makes a great point about the 2020 map. this is a political softball. of course you would put this ledge allocation through the senate, because it allows for bipartisanship, it covers some of the members who are running in 2020. but there is this other thing out there that just nags at me if maybe donald trump sees this go through who knows what he'll do? i think he's that unstable at this point. >> let's bring in the conversation new england member of the house judiciary committee democratic congressman ted lieu. he represents the state's 33rd district. congressman, welcome back. legality me ask you about what we've been talking about this morning which is what's happening in the state of california, particularly orange county right now which if we put up that map you can see it's about to go completely blue which would be a shock to people who viewed it as the cradle of conservatism in real estate began country. what's going on in your state right now? >> let me first say my heart goes out to the victims of wildfires including those in my district. i commend the first responders for their amazing job. specifically on your question i just want to say orange county is a new blue. what we saw was a sweep of southern california districts in favor of democrats. i'm the vice chair are of the democratic congressional campaign committee. we targeted all these districts in southern california. we moved our entire western region office to southern california. you saw the amazing successes. gil cisneros took a lead last night. six new members from california that are democrats. >> what's changing in orange county that the rest of the country can look at? >> it turns out the republican strategy of raising taxes on millions of californians and trying to sabotage their health care was not a winning strategy for the gop, but in addition, donald trump has made everything about him these last two years, a large part of this election was a rebuke of the president. it was a rejection of his divisive policies. i hope donald trump learns his lesson this election and changes course. that's what the overwhelming majority of american voters want. >> susan? >> congressman, as we look forward towards 2019, what investigations do you think will be the top priorities now? we've heard, will it be impeachment? what do you see going forward? >> my view of impeachment is that like the power to declare war it's one of the gravest responsibilities of congress. it should never be our first option. it has to be our last option. we'll see what the facts and evidence are from the robert mueller investigation and the first thing we have to do is to protect that investigation. but the president also needs to understand the train has threat station. it's too late to shut down this investigation. too many indictments. too much has been discovered. even if he could shut it down the democratic congress starting next year can continue the investigation. we get subpoena power. we can get documents. we'll find out any criminal behavior that happened during the campaign. >> congressman, first of all i wanted to ask you about nancy pelosi. obviously, there's a big, big battle brewing if you believe news reports coming out of the house. in my experience, i was going to ask why would democrats get rid of somebody who -- i mean nancy knows the house, she knows how to run the house, she knows how to keep a caucus together. this speakship, being speaker is not about ideology, it's about competence. if running against nancy pelosi, even conservative districts worked then dave brat would be coming back to congress. will democrats end up supporting nancy pelosi. >> you're exactly right. nancy pelosi is a leader we need during these challenging times. she was terrific as minority leader. she was amazing as a prior speaker. she will do a phenomenal job as our future speaker. on november 28th, nancy pelosi will get the overwhelming support of the house democratic caucus. we then send her to the floor june 3rd as our nominee and by january 3rd i'm confident she will get the votes she needs to become speaker of the house. >> all right. congressman, thank you so much for being with us. please note our thoughts and prayers are with everybody out in california right now, those forest fires. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. donnie, the arrogance of members and i want to focus on something ted said. the arrogance of california republicans who thought they could vote for a tax cut that would actually hike taxes for california residents because as you know the tax bill doesn't allow you to deduct for state income taxes and in california they are just as outrageous as in new york state and connecticut. to vote to raise people's taxes and also to take away their health care plan, celebrating in the rose garden you're taking away people's health care. it shows time and time again that people get elected to congress and become arrogant and think they can get away with anything, they can follow donald trump over the cliff and now all of orange county is blue. >> i mention this on the show before. we talk about voters. coming from the ad world, you know, it's very easy to talk about consumers or purchasers. then you forget the consumers are actually your next door neighbor and your wife and your friend and your school teacher, and that is the mistake. people are not stupid at the end of the day. we left trump university earlier in the show. he did that scam for a little while and then wasn't. people at the end of the day, and i believe people, the better angels showed in the election. i think people are good. i think people have a certain horse sense whether they are educated or not educated. people are not stupid. they are not voters, they are people. that's what republicans forgot. >> a lot of people want to make the mid-terms about donald trump but they were also issue by issue. tom mcarthur in new jersey who lost his seat to andy kim, he voted for the tax bill. in the state of new jersey the taxes are already horrific and no longer can deduct their state and the local taxes. that was an issue. finding the right candidate and right issue is the real key to a lot of these races. as you cover the white house and you look where the president is right now, taking a step back from it, he's factoring in the mid-terms to this face we've seen him put on in the last couple of days but also factoring in the mueller investigation and as donnie points out we may be at a perilous point for the president of the united states right now. >> it's hard to overstate the cognitive dissid northwestern ce going on because while trump's team was in that republicans would lose the house and polls and forecast were pretty much spot on, the president was very resistant to that and really did believe it was fake news and that the polls were wrong, this would be a repeat of 2016. so on election night when he was at the white house, as the results rolled in he was guesting increasingly frustrated. and the public, you know, sunniness and cheeriness about results and declaration of total victory is quite different to the private view of what just happened. so, yes, i mean what you said is true. but really health care was such an animating issue and will be again, frankly, leading into 2020. they are very concerned about that. they are also quite concerned about the fact that democrats, the lay up for them is reclaiming the upper midwest. and, you know, we have conversation about texas and arizona and georgia. but really the path is actually quite straightforward. pennsylvania, michigan, these states that trump thought he had a stranglehold on, he simply doesn't. >> and heidi przybyla, it's the republicans who stood by this and knowing the impact of these tax cuts on health care, it's almost as if they were under a spell or something. it's not like they don't understand how this is going to end. this is where every step of the way we've been questioning like don't you know how this ends badly? and here we are results in congress get worse for republicans. >> you saw that even with the president himself, mika, when he started to peddle the idea of a real middle class tax cut. we remember the initial tax cut was billed as a tax cut for the middle class. it most certainly was not that. we've seen many analysis of how this was mainly a corporate tax cut. i haven't been able to get into my reporting before but this is a perfect opportunity to say during the 2016 campaign i reached out to a number of the top conservative institutions like the heritage foundation to say, okay, if president trump would want to do a tax cut how would this have to be structured to be effective because we just can't keep going back to the well and doing the same thing over again and they said to me, mika, even if this is a corporate tax cut it's got to be tightly tailored in order to get the kind of outcome that we want and not just the quote-unquote sugar high that some people and some analysts are now saying that this tax cut is amounting to, the benefits are petering off and it was not a tax cut aimed at the forgotten man that trump talked about on the campaign trail. >> it was not. heidi przybyla, thank you very much. heidi has new reporting on the unprecedented around the clock security for education secretary betsy devos. also how congressional democrats may look into the millions that has cost taxpayers. find that on msnbcnews.com. jonathan swan, thank you as well. still ahead on "morning joe" the white house looks for a roundabout way to ease pressure on saudi arabia over the assassination of "washington post" writer jamal khashoggi. and career officials at the justice department are furious. >> their plan is so grotesque, it actually, it is as you know, i'm not shocked by much any more coming out of the trump administration. in fact, he's actually becoming a parody of himself, but this plan is so grotesque it even shocks me. >> we'll explain that. plus tom brokaw joins the conversation. you're watching "morning joe". we'll be right back. ight back. insurance that won't replace the full value of your new car? you'd be better off throwing your money right into the harbor. i'm gonna regret that. with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ - mwith the best ofodi, the prespressure cooking andsps, air frying all in 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>> this is incredible. this is not who we are. >> it's despicable. let's hope there are people at the state department who will push back on this. it's ridiculous. let's bring in right now nbc news senior correspondent tom brokaw and also the director of domestic policy studies and stanford university and research fellow at the hoover institute. tom, i got to talk to you this morning about orange county. you know, you left wwusb in atlanta and moved out to california, southern california and you were covering a former hollywood star who launched his conservative revolution in orange county and here we are now, 52 years later, two years after donald trump's elected to the presidency and look at that map, reagan country is now a solid blue. what are your thoughts? >> my thoughts are that that is, in this election, which turned over a lot of the old rules, that is the most profound example of it. rock solid orange county now blue and it really is a reflection of what's going on not just in california but across the country. if you look at this new class, where they come from, what they represent, what their ideology really represents, we have muslims who are appearing there, and we have people who have not been involved in politics before. this to a greater degree than we've been willing to acsnlg a real transformation of american politics and it's not going to stop with this election. these people who are arriving in washington remind me of the hottest high school graduation you can imagine who are suddenly bumping up against the new rules in washington and are going be very impatient with that because that's not how they got there. they want change. and we're already seeing a manifestation in that how they are dealing with nancy pelosi running for re-election. latest reports are she probably will be re-elected but that's not the end of it. there's a revolt going on in the democratic party trying to reconfigure for the future and what the country wants and orange county is the perfect example of that. when you see drohrabacher after 15 terms get beat that's a big night. >> tom, also we can talk about orange county, we can talk about the suburbs breaking, but let's talk about women getting elected to congress. we've had a lot of years, we talked about the year of the woman. but this year really has proven to be the year of the woman. over 100 woman going to congress. what a remarkable change. still aren't enough women. there's not parity yet. my gosh, what a dramatic change. do you think that was all in reaction to donald trump's mi mysogny. >> identify been talking about this. at the end of the century, i think historians will say this was the century of women. not just in this country but around the world. they will begin to take their place in the long historical calendars that we always deal with as not just great new powers, but influencers and they will be taking jobs that they were cut-out of before and when i do that at the beginning of this century, audiences, women would erupt in applause and men would look at me where is that coming from. now it seems to me that the manifestation is there. that in fact it will be the century of women. this is just the beginning. it's not a one off. this is not just something that happened in this election year. it's going on in corporate america and scientific america, it's going on as well in the educational circles of america. so as the father of three daughters, i've watched this begin to happen. i think it's very, very heartening and it's a reality that people have to come to grips w-especially those in washington who are kind of watching. nancy pelosi is a woman. she rose through the ranks when a lot of women were not able to do that. but she's now facing a new reality about these women and others who are arriving in washington saying we're not going play by the old rules. we want to change. we want it now. >> so, lonnie, as you look at the results of the mid-term election, which keep continuing to come in. golden winning end maine leaving susan collins as the only congressional republican in new england. she's the only republican in congress right now from that part of the country. what lessons do you take? what did you see as the results came through? >> well, look remarkable polarization. it's true what you see in terms of orange county. that's just a microcosm of the discussion. what you see are these suburban areas where the president's rhetoric particularly on immigration was incredibly harmful. that sort of drives those parts of the country to the left and then you obviously got states like missouri and indiana which ended up not being nearly as close on the senate side moving to the right in part responding to that very same rhetoric. really the competitive of some of these districts is interesting, but i think this is really the first election that signals probably a larger restructuring, a larger re-orientation of the partisan map. for republicans it's deeply troubling. my home state of california i grew up in the 39th congressional district where gil cisneros appears to have taken the lead over young kim. the rhetoric on immigration, the rhetoric on the caravan, that's what i think will have turned this district, if it does end up going to the democrats. these changes that we're seeing now, you will recall, are cementing some of the gains democrats made in california that may be very difficult to turn around. >> just to follow up on that. i guess part of the issue will be, though, if these democrats go too far left, will they be open to a 2020 or 2022 challenge, and also where do republicans go to get more voters because that's the problem? the democrats keep expanding their footprint whereas republicans hope their people just keep showing up. >> in california the challenge goes way back to a guy who i first worked for in politic, governor pete wilson. >> so did i. >> we share that heritage. you understand how tough the immigration rhetoric on proposition 187 was when it came along in the mid-'90s, the way in which that changed the entire arc of history in california for the republican party. in terms of where the republican party gets more voters, i think it's when the republican party sees that new policy is needed in this regard. but in terms of the makeup of the electorate and what we're seeing in california again, these trends, we're just starting to see that this is happening as we go forward and what i worry about is that some of these things are cementing because it's not clear to me there's a way to turn this around in california in the short run. >> we're through the mid-term elections, effectively through mr. trump's first two years in january. there's some dispute in florida and georgia. your snapshot of washington right now. your snapshot of the country and where we are after two years under president trump. >> you know, i've been covering politics for a long time. i was in washington during the nixon years and i've been paying attention, started my political reporting career for nbc in california. this is the most transformative time i can remember. we always thought coming out of the anti-war movement we would have that kind of change and we did, briefly. this, i think is there for the long time. what you're seeing in america now is the reality of what kind of variety we have. whether they are immigrants or if they grew up here. they are smart. they got access to money. they have access to social media which is really important. so what i think is, what we've seen in the last week, it's the beginning of the election two years from now in the presidential election. i don't think donald trump has caught up to that yet. he was still playing by his old ego. but his ego took a hard hit in this election. no question about it. we're in for a rock and roll couple of years and i think the leadership of both parties are in for that, as a matter of fact. they got to adjust to what's going on and i'm not sure how it's going to turn out. but i do think it's going to reinvigorate the idea of democracy which i think is very, very important to us. >> and mika, as tom noted, the most diverse incoming class in the history of the united states congress. out of many, one. what a great message for america to send the world. tom brokaw thank you so much. lonnie, thank you as well. mika, the orange county of the east coast as willie and i like to count mount desert island maine too has gone democratic and willie and i, we're going to get maps, we'll get steve kornacki to dig into this but we're getting the final results from towns going democratic. bar harbor, mount desert, the swing district that willie worried about so much, southwest harbor went democratic. tremont, 460-282. willie, you wouldn't have said this in the past bust the democrats won 70% of the vote on mdi and as said before as goes northeast harbor so goes france. this is big news. >> we'll be right back on good morning bangor. >> so product of it. >> monica lewinsky is revisiting the scandal that put her and bill clinton in the spot lights. we'll talk to the director of the new documentary series the clinton affair along with new helpful hints on how you broil that lobster just right for thanksgiving. as good morning bank bagor conts on "morning joe". r continue on "morning joe" ♪ the greatest wish of all... is one that brings us together. the lincoln wish list event is here. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with $0 down, $0 due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. only at your lincoln dealer. and a complimentary first month's payment. you'll make my morning, buty the price ruin my day.ou? 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>> i lived through these events. honestly i'm embarrassed at how little i knew. we spent the last year diving into this. >> yeah. >> and so much, one of the big things i didn't know is how long the relationship went on. it was a two year affair. the relationship has been so misconstrued. and the thing that really kind of disturbed me is that when the story breaks there's a very long period of time monica lewinsky is not able to speak publicly, she's in legal jeopardy. really the media and public have a heyday and she's unable to speak and no one comes out the defend her and she's left out there on her own for many months. then we hear the trip tapes. so it's a very -- i can't imagine living through something like that. >> no. we have more from the docu series that i want to show as we move along here. let's show another clip right now. take a look. >> there was a point for me somewhere in this sort of first several hours where i would be hysterically crying and then just shut down. in the shut down period i remember looking out the window and thinking that the only way to fix this was to kill myself. was to jump out the window. and i just, i felt terrible. i was scared, and i just -- i was mortified and afraid what this was going to do to my family. and, you know, i still was in love with bill at the time. so i felt really responsible. >> it's incredible, blair. and i'm sort of trying to think back of the women in the white house at the time and why there wasn't more sympathy, even i think from hillary. is that going too far? it just seems like she was so young and to be put in this position. so scared. i mean i guess did you discover anything in your research where it seemed she was really culpable, responsible and completely the aggressor? >> she's been very honest and forthright about taking responsibility. this was an affair. and i don't think that -- it's totally understandable that hillary clinton would not want to come out in her defense. i think, monica the first thing she did when she was able to speak publicly was to apologize to hillary and chelsea and the thing i learned there are no heroes in this story and she's very clear she takes full responsibility for making some very bad choices. but it was a little surprising to me, especially on the heels -- you know we're only a few years away from the anita hill hearings, for example. there were not really any women coming to her defense to say maybe we need to kind of keep this in perspective and proportion. what she did was wrong, but perhaps she doesn't need to be vilified to this degree. >> blair, it to ask you about the title of this series. may seem like a small thing. for 20 years this episode in american history has been known as the lewinsky affair. you call at any time clinton affair. why was that significant to you? >> there's a really moving moment in the film when monica talks about effect it had on her family. one of the biggest things for me doing this series is meeting her and other people in the series. these are real humans. when you strip away the political lens you appreciate the devastating effect it had on them. i think she's been disproportionately saddled with the scandal. there were two people involved in this. i think it's about time to kind of maybe shift the focus and rebalance that and remind people that there was another person involved in this. >> there's such an irony here. in today's me too world obviously the men rightfully so that gets vilified. people forget the next 20 years from her, a number of years ago she reached out to me looking for employment. i sat down with her. i was so taken with how bright and engaging and interesting that i walked down to our ceo's office we have monica as our account director. we can't do that. how she had this scarlet letter. it just wasn't the embarrassment of the clinton affair, she couldn't work, she couldn't get jobs in corporate america. what a victim she was and you talk about a kid also. she was telling me a story when she was 22 they show up. we're taking your mother to jail if you don't come with us. the overwhelmingness and that she's still scarred. she can't let go of it because it's her identity at the same time but yet she needs to. did you feel this kind of trapped -- i'm damned if i do, damned if i don't kind of thing. >> i felt that with monica. i interviewed all of these women sort of damned if you do, damned if you don't. if you don't speak about it other people speak about the story. if they do speak they are accused of trying to get rich off of it. none of them have wanted to be famous off of it. so i think for monica, i know for many, many years it's been a struggle to find an actual job. and so i can't fathom that. >> using her platform more recently for the anti-bullying, she's done a lot of good with her name. you mentioned linda tripp's name. monica lewinsky talked about her decision to confide in linda tripp. >> for the last two weeks leading up to the election i didn't hear from him at all. i had naively invested in his promise and expected woe have won the election and within the first few days he would have called and okay, great, where do you want to work? that didn't happen. i had this nagging insecurity, maybe he just did all of these things these last six months because he was trying to keep me quiet during the election. how stupid am i that i believed this, that i bought this. i felt so deflated and so desperate and those were the conditions along with some other things that led to me confiding in linda tripp. >> so, bill and hillary clinton, did you hear from them on this? they were both questioned about it of late. bill clinton got quite defensive with an nbc reporter. and hillary clinton pushed back saying she was an adult and deflected on something else, as if that's it. she was an adult. her choice. i'm not sure. i feel like she was a child in the white house. with the president of the united states. can you give me a sense of the age range and i just, i would feel sympathy if i was in this situation, which i would hate to be. i'm sorry. i would be angry but i would fe sympathy for the 22-year-old, how old was she? >> she was 22 when the affair first started. turning 24, 25 during 1998 when this story broke. that's been an interesting debate i think with a plot of people i talk to. will youzy anne goldberg said in the field, she was a child. others say at two, she's an adult. for me i focus on the reaction the disproportionate reaction. he's the president of the united states, perhaps he should take some responsibility. it shouldn'tbull all be thrust on monica. she's the one that carried the burden on this. shouldn't he be also held accountable in the same way to the same degree as he was? 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if it had not already been shut down by proper authorities? >> it's too much of a hangnail. don't do it. don't do the trump university thing. >> you just did it for me. that's why you are here. >> my gosh, donny. >> they would do it at trump university. but no where else. mika, he goes on talking about crooked hillary, comey -- >> he is getting the questions from mueller, freaking out, i know one cannot make that connection. but one can certainly surmise that at the time the questions from the mueller probe are coming into this white house at the time the democrats have control and the president is finally being educated of the fact that there is nothing he can do when he is compelled to hand over his tax returns and answer questions. at the time that the president finally realizes that the first time in his life he is cornered and there is nowhere to go. programs, at the time, one might surmise perhaps his son is potentially on the list of those who might be indicted that this president is freaking out. >> you may surmise. >> i'm surmiseing. >> there are reports that don jr. told friends he might be indicted in the next couple things. >> everything. >> that came after the president claimed to know the inner workings of the mueller investigation, saying they had no collusion, which, of course, is ridiculous. they've gone absolutely nuts. they are screaming and shouting at people, et cetera, et cetera. this remind me susan del percio of what john heilemann said is almost everything donald trump blurts out on his twitter feed is a projection or confessional. >> it is. it would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic, frankly. and to have a president of the united states spinning out of control and focused only on himself and fought on our country at this point is devastating. we have the g-20 coming up. we have forth korea testing missiles again. we have a lot of things going on. this president is strictly wrapped up in himself and he is spinning out of control. >> and so why is he doing that? well, mika mentioned it, as they were preparing final questions, the special counsel submitted weeks ago. the president met e spent more than four hours with attorneys and 90 minutes wednesday night according to people familiar with sessions who tell washington post. trump attorney rudy guiliani and others briefed on the questions tell the paper there are at least two dozen questions, all of which relate to activitys and episodes from before president trump's election. quote, there are some that create more issues for us legally than others, guiliani said, adding that some were unnecessary. some were possible traps and we might consider some as irrelevant and more evidence that the special counsel appears to be at the front of the president's mind as displayed in the transcript of his wednesday interview with "the daily caller." he was asked about the acting of assigning whitaker. trump responded saying this. assigning whitaker trump responded saying this. that answer being compared to president trump's may 2017 response to a question about the firing of fbi director james comey. >> when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made-up story. >> so, joe, go back to the "daily caller" interview the president is asked about acting attorney general whitaker and finds himself almost to the mueller investigation. >> he just walks, he just walks into it. why don't -- maybe for christmas this year, so somebody can get a stamp and make it a lot easier for him that says obstruction on it and stamp it on his forehead. because it's so obviously. you look at what he said there. you look at what he said like you said to lester holt, what he told the russian foreign minister the russian ambassador of the united states, about the firing of comey. i mean, this guy, donny, he obstructs in plain light. you don't have to be -- >> exactly. >> you don't have to be sperlock. like, he obstructs in the light of day. >> ha ha. >> the absurd moves you make will get heightened. we are seeing a different guy now. donald trump a few weeks ago was scary. you know, he was -- i say he was like bonnville and gold finger. now he's dr. evil. he comes on and doesn't get angle. you chuck him. there is a patheticness that hasn't been there in the past. donald trump has been in the word control. in the lowest part of his life. when are you a company and you are bankrupt, you own the banks, you say take the keys. so he's never not been in control and we're going to see now a cabled animal. i think we will see behavior so much more abhorrent to anything we've seen. if you just watch this man. there is a greater movie the seduction of joe tynan. with alan alda, at some point talks french at a hearing. i think we will see something in the coming weeks, some of the tweets go to a new level that even republicans are going to start to come out from under the rocks. >> yeah. i think so john meacham, we had a discussion time and again, you, i, mika, talking about whether the institutions would hold. they have held, most importantly, voters went out and provided the ultimate madisonian check on donald trump's power with their vote last week. but it's happening everywhere. you look at a federal judge. we will be talking about this story in a minute. you look at a federal judge this i guess it was yesterday in the d.c. circuit, who was asked by the trump administration to, the deal set back to the mueller investigation and throw out some charges. the federal judge appointed by donald trump refused and said they've done nothing wrong. i think again, maybe when you do the soul of america part 2, maybe in the soul of america's institutions, they have not been found wanting as of yet, have they? >> thigh haven't yet. that's why my money is on madison, not twitter. i might lose, unquestionable. i think there is a durability and also to ultimately the popular pressure. as you know better than anybody, congress is far more often a mirror of who we are rather than a molder. and my sense is that particularly with the new house of representatives and i would imagine a republican senate caucus, that we at least be looking at things like the orange county results, looking at the results from the past week or two. and saying, you know what, we hooked our wagon to this guy, but we don't have that wagon go straight off the cliff with the entire trump organization, speaking russian instead of france. >> not true. >> i just wonder, i just wonder. remember, of all the people that have been with donald trump. if you were with ronald reagan, if you were with nixon, if you were with george w. bush, you were there because you believed to some extent in the person as well. trump's official base, the people in washington, are hired hands. they're not true believers, it seems to me and the congressional base lives in fear of him, but fear is not going to i think if fear is what's driving them, fear of their voters ultimately is going to be more compelling than fear of trump, himself and we might, might, might be beginning to see that. >> mm-hmm. so here are the details of that story joe just mentioned. a federal judge is refusing to toss out the case by special counsel robert mueller against a russian business accused of helping to fund moscow's efforts to meddle in the 2016 election. the judge yesterday ruled against the firm, concord management and consulting, which had been seeking to have the indictment against it dismissed, saying prosecutors made up a crime to score political points for the probe and to prove its legitimacy. the company the accused of using an extensive social media campaign to influence the election. in her 31-page opinion, the judge who president trump appointed to the u.s. district court of d.c. last year rejected concord's claim. she says prosecutors properly charged the business with trying to obstruct the functions of the u.s. government by avoiding foreign election and lobbying disclosure requirements. concord is owned by a russian businessman known as putin's chef, due to his close ties with the russian president. the judge said no. >> and, willie, there is another great example again of a federal judges especially from the very beginning have proven that whitaker's wrong, that the federal judiciary is an equal branch to the executive and to the legislative branches and it's proven time and time again, whether they're republicans, democrats, whether they're appointed by donald trump or barack obama, you know what, they follow the law and they hold this president and others in check. >> and it's another reminder that this investigation is going to continue. the president can tweet, he can scream. mike pence can say in may it's trial to wrap it up. rudy guiliani can go on every sunday show and talk about why this investigation has to end. they can file lawsuits. this investigation will continue, heidi pryzbilla, until bob mueller decides what he has to make a case or to present a case that nothing happened, that the president had nothing to do with interference and the country can move on from it. but everything we see on twitter from the president. everything we saw yesterday, once again, just noise and it's noise that bob mueller is not listening to. >> reporter: well the question, willie, is whether you can draw a direct line between the president's behavior and what he knows that the rest of us don't know. >> right. >> reporter: like mika said, they've had those questions for a while, why aren't they answering them? we also know there may be other sealed indictments. what does the president and his team know about potential indictments against people in his administration and maybe even in his inner circle? and you can definitely draw a direct line between his tweets and his meetings with his lawyers, which we know he had a 90-minute meeting on wednesday with his lawyers. with one thing that we know for certain is that this is, indeed, is calculating. you hear from don jr., himself, as well as folks like roger stone saying they may expect themselves to be indicted. roger stone releasing those texts in order to try to buffer himself, to say that no, actually, randy creditco was the guy the go-between with wikileaks so es calculation on several fronts. the question is when is mueller going to come forward with whatever his final determination is. conce certainly, he didn't want to find himself in the same position comey was in, being accused of dumping things before an election. well, we're past that election now. still ahead on "morning joe," more and more concerned lawyers are speaking out about the president's blatant rule of law. they were organized by kellyanne conway's husband, george conway. you are watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. i am a family man. i am a techie dad. i believe the best technology should feel effortless. like magic. at comcast, it's my job to develop, apps and tools that simplify your experience. my name is mike, i'm in product development at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. a group of more than a dozen prominent lawyers are urging material fellow conservatives to speak out about what they call the trump administration's betrayal of the bed roc of legal norms. the group calls themselves checks and balances and two of their members join us now. senior associate king and spalding marissa mallock and assistant secretary for policy at the u.s. homeland security and former senior counsel for the ken starr investigation paul rosensweig. he is now a professorial lecture and law at the george washington university. good to have you both on board. marissa, i'll start with you. you're a conservative lawyers. why was this necessary? >> there are so many reasons why this is necessary. >> try. >> right from the beginning, i was a part of a group two signed a letter called originalists against trump. i was concerned, because this guy was running for president since early 2000s, switched parties for as long as he has been able to vote, essentially. i was really concerned about his principles, whether or not he had any. he soon proved to have very little and what you seen is him really corroding legal norms and the rule of law, between talking about birth right citizenship, which is clearly unconstitutional under the 14th amendment to the newest appointment of the acting attorney general. he has normalized ignoring legal norms and it's time for someone to speak up against it. >> i'm wondering, palm, if for you, early on in the administration, when the president questioned the legal authority of a republican appointed federal judge in washington state if that wasn't when a lot of alarm bells went off for you. it certainly was for me when, you know, i think the first time in my lifetime, i remembered a president of the united states actually questioning the authority of a federal judge because he didn't like the outcome of the case. >> i think that's right. everybody has their own breaking point in this story. for me it's gone back to a while, the first-hand you referred to, a president essentially saying that the independent should not be independent. the concept of checks and balances that is at the core of our group's activity. likewise, interference in criminal investigations, suggesting the department of justice should investigate your political opponent or not investigate your political allies, those sorts of things are beyond normal. they're beyond the bounds of what is normal political discourse. and normal political disagreement and they really strike at very fundamental values of american society. >> you know, marissa, i wonder, and i'm sure you have had, you clerked for clarence thomas, i'm sure, like me, you grew up with a lot of republican friends and a lot of republican family members who wonder why you didn't fall mind ply in line for trump. is there a separate -- >> i actually -- >> really in. >> i actually have democrats as parents. i just happened to read when i was 12 and utterly corrupted. >> my god i love it. >> so your last two or three years, at family reunions. be that as it may, i wonder if you've noticed let's say among your friends in washington, if you have conservative friends in washington, it's the lawyers that understand more. when i talk about the breaching of constitutional norms and i start talking about the president not respecting the power of the federal judiciary and madisonian checks and balances, a lot of my friends eyes glaze however. it seems conservatives lawyers, though, that i talk to seem to get it a bit more and understand why even if a guy is cutting taxes and appointing people to the supreme court that you may like, it's still not enough if somebody is breaching constitutional norms? >> i totally agree with that. what's a little concerning is i do think people look at him and say, well, look at all these judges, we're really shaping the judiciary. let's sort of ignore it. he's sort of blustering. his words have legal affect. when he tweets something, people respond. to me it's not enough to say we have justice kavanaugh, justice gorsuch. there is nothing to see here. there is plenty of things when you start corroding constitutional norms over time and switching our dialogue about it. all of a sudden we don't have a functioning democracy any more. and coming up on morning joe, we'll actually hear from george conway, himself. we'll explain that, plus, if you thought american politics were chaotic right now, just look at what's happening in the uk. the brexit deal is in crisis and so is the government there. the british ambassador to the united states joins us next to help us explain what exactly is going on. "morning joe" is back in a moment. joining us now the british ambassador to the united states. mr. ambassador, thank you for being on this morning. we will get to the turmoil surrounding brexit in just a moment. first we want to ask you about the recent reporting by the washington post about the phone call. president trump had last we'll be right back with british prime minister teresa may. sources tell the "post" that an board air force one last friday, trump lost his cool with the prime minister, who had called to congratulate him on the mid-terms. he reportedly berated may on iran, trade, brexit, among other topics. do you have any more information on that call and exactly how would you describe the special relationship? how it's doing between the u.s. and britain? >> well, good morning. i have seen the washington post reports. i have also seen a record of the prime minister's conversation with the president last week. i thought it was a very good discussion they had. it was substantive. they talked about british politics, about the american politics, about the outcome of the mid-terms. the prime minister briefed the president on where we were on brexit. he talked about middle east. it was exactly the kind of substance-heavy serious conversation that the prime minister and the president have regularly. i seen the two of them together quite a lot and they have a very good personal relationship. and when they get towing, they talk about the issues. we corner agree on absolutely everything. for example, the u.s. has withdrawn from the iran nuclear deal. we are still supporting it. so we cover issues where we have disagreements as well as very large areas where we agree. and it's very good that they have these kind of substance-heavy serious lengthy conversations regularly. so, i wouldn't quite accept here the washington post's account of it. >> sow think the washington post's account of it is incorrect? >> the tone was not what i am told, the tone. the tone report in the washington post was not the tone that i understood the conversation to have had. and as i say, i think it's a very good thing that the two leaders when they talk, and they talk regularly, every two or three weeks, cover all of the substance and they can talk openly about areas where we have some disagreements and try and resolve those as well as the many, many areas where we are exactly in the same case so i think it's a very good relationship between the two of them. and, you know, it's good that they can cover all of this stuff regularly. >> so let's talk about what's going on with brexit. yesterday, a multitude of prime minister teresa may's cabinet minsters resigned in protest of a fragile brexit deal struck between great britain and the eu. >> that includes the prime minister's main negotiator brexit secretary domenic raab. and the bbc reports that another cabinet minister michael gove rejected the offer tore the next brexit secretary reportedly because it would not let him make changes or renegotiate the deem. the deal neath neeeds passage f parliament. the britain pound plunged, following the news. what does the minister need to do, mr. ambassador to keep the government together. >>. >> you are right a couple cabinet minsters resigned yesterday. in our system, if you have a strong disagreement with a piece of government policy, that's the appropriate and honorable thing to do and have the greatest respect for the ministers who took that, those decisionles. i'd also point out, though, if you look at the air waves this morning, two strot supporters, have been out there saying that they support the deal the prime minister has done and cabinet overall supported it the day before the yesterday. so what you she will now do, having negotiated, i believe a very good, very strong deal, that is very much in british interests, and the deliverers what the british people asked for when they voted brexit. she will now have a summit with the european leaders in a couple of weeks to get their signoff on the deal and then she will take it to parliament for a vote in early december to get parliamentary approval for it. and my expectation is it will go through because, of course, it's a compromise, of course, whichever side of the argument you are on, whether you remain on leave, there are things in this cool you may not think are perfect but as a way forward that delivers what the british people have voted for, you are not going to do better than this, so this is a deal i hope and expect everyone will support, ultimately. >> ambassador, susan del percio here. you certainly have proved yourself to be the diplomat in how you handled that first question. but there are certain challenges, aren't there, with how the behavior of the u.s. has changed so much with so many of its allies. how do you and maybe some of your colleagues, what are the biggest challenges you have in dealing with the administration now? >> i don't quite agree with your characterization. >> it's perceived here. let's put it this way. it's perceived in the u.s. that this president has strained relationships with leaders abroad. >> yeah. the president has very good relations with my prime minister and government to government, we do a huge amount together. there is a lot of interaction a lot of cooperation at every level. it's still a relationship that feels exceptional and you know i think the future for it is very strong. as i've said, there are one of two issues where we disagree. there are between every british government and every u.s. administration, issues where we disagree. but there is such a strong dialogue between our leaders and between our senior minsters and between officials that we can find ways to move forward together even in areas where we have had some disagreements. so i feel very positive about the relationship. i think it's very strong and the, you know the prospects are very good. >> reporter: british ambassador to the united states, sir kim darroch, thank you very much for being on this morning. >> thank you. up next a personality call, that's what kelly anne conway says has become of the republican party under trump, personality cult. we'll hear more next on "morning joe." l hear more next on "mornig joe. a once-in-five hundred year storm should happen every five hundred years, right? 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long long pause, and said no comment. >> that long comment spoke volumes. he said he left the party largely because of trump and how the party has kind of dealt with him. and supported him. he said that if he had a choice now to chose again for either hillary clinton or donald trump, he doesn't know what he would do. he said originally he considered hillary clinton the greater or trump the lesser of two evils. he can't say that anymore. so pretty extraordinary. >> you mentioned, i want to get one more clip, susan. then you take it away. er you mentioned the turn for george conway when he decided to take on the president. here's his axe planation of that. >> is there a moment you found so appalling that you had to speak out? >> you know, somebody asked me that question the other day. i think it was just a whole -- i think the things that really bugged me the most were the tweets at sessions and the justice department. the fault that the president was, you know, was this recusal thing and i never heard a coherent explanation of why he shouldn't have recuse himself, and to the contrary, everybody that i have talked to who either is connected to the justice department or at the white house counsel's office, you know, nobody said that the recusal question was the plaque and white. >> you know, it's interesting. because george conway is more than just kellyanne conway's husband. he has had an established career. these are not things that are being done just to kind of create this image or this relationship wondering where they're going to go next? is this a carvel moment thing? can you go a little more on how you went into depth on some of these issues with george and really how he is capable of explaining and detail something. >> yeah. >> the differences? >> it's a good point. i want to go back to what joe said in the previous segment. he talked about how these conservative lawyers get these issues more than other people. they understand these sort of as conway put it, these timeless principles. the rule of law and sort of our constitutional values, transcend partisan politics. i think he is deeply offended by the way in which trump has in his view subverted the rule of law. now, what we saw in that clip was, what really, what was really the turning point was the way that trump attacked the justice department. by the way the justice department had almost came within a hair's breath of working for, but withdrew his name because of some of the things he saw trump doing, tweeting, saying, in terms of attacking the justice department. one last thing is conway has been consistent in these views. you know, some people remember, will remember that he was one of the lawyers who behind the scenes was going after bill clinton in the paula jones case and monica lewinsky for some of the same things. subverting the rule of law, lying about conduct, which he considered to be outrageous. mostly, it was the idea that he was lying under oath. he was claiming some kind of immunity. he was above the law. and so, you know, all these years later, he sees trump in a different context, doing some of the same things and he just couldn't tolerate it. >> in fact, george conway formed this group, checks and balances. we had two conservative lawyers talking about their protests thousand president violated constitutional norms and talked about the justice department. as you sat there, mike with george conway, what jumped out at you at him being most offended by the presidency? . >> i think what danny was saying the subversion of the rule of law. you know, early on in the interview, he seized on one of the president's tweets back if you remember right of the justice department had brought indictments against two republican congressmen, chris collins and duncan hunter and trump was, you know, saying, oh, right on the eve of the mid-terms, my attorney general is bringing indictments against two republican congressmens, way to go. you know, ag sessions. and conway says, i was appalled. i was appalled. the idea that the president of the united states would be talking about, you know, indictments, a legal process in crass political terms was so offensive to him that, you know, it clearly inspired him to do this, to set up, part of one of the reasons to set up this organization. but, you know, also, i just want to say, i mean, first of all, he is a -- i hope people have a chance to listen to the whole interview. it's really remarkable. he is a funny guy. he's zesty. he pulls no punches. you know, the -- his evolution is so striking. two short years ago, he tells us he wept with joy at the election of donald trump. mostly out of pride for his wife's role in pulling it off and getting him elected. he gives his wife full credit fosh for rescuing donald trump's candidacy, getting him on message and helping to win the election. and to go from where -- weeping joy and pride two years ago to from he is today, probably the most stinging critic of the -- of this presidency from the right is an amazing journey. >> you also asked conway on the podcast, whether president trump poses a threat to our long-term institutions. here's what george conway had to say about that. >> the tweets like the witch hunt tweets, like this morning's tweets, they're corrosive. and even if they don't actually have a legal effect and they're not executed with a order of any tort, they have a corrosive effect i think over the medium to long term into the perceptions of i think the public on what is, how the system operates. . >> dan, just going back to the school yard, did you ask him how he felt about being called mr. kellyanne conway? that's about that as low as can you go on a guy in. >> he claimed he called himself mr. kellyanne conway, i think two a little different meaning than the way president trump called him mr. kellyanne conway. there is no love lost there between him and donald trump. he did say that they've met a couple of times since trump was elected. but he also said that if he had to vote again and maybe he will have to in 2020, he'd rather go to some nice beach in australia than vote for donald trump. i mean, the kind of contempt he has for this president, you know, you will hear all throughout this pod cast. it's pretty striking. >> all right. the podcast is skull duggery, a must listen. guys, good to see you both. thanks. our next guest says there was a time when our country was more polarized than it is today. the good news, america survivinged. the bad news, it took a civil war. we'll discuss that next on "morning joe." vil war. we'll discuss that next on "morning joe." so she started making cakes to support us. the first account that we opened was with bank of america. since then, we have grown exponentially. to me, food is love. and i think food brings people together. everything in life is about giving back. you're only as good as what you leave behind, when you leave this world. ♪ means they won't hike your rates over one mistake. see, liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ five-year cancer survivor. being diagnosed with cancer made me rethink everything in my life. the things that became important to me were the relationships with people. we pulled together closer as a family. i had so many people at ctca helping me find a way to go through the treatments, to prepare me for anything i would've faced. cancer showed me what true living is all about. so i started helping at a school for special needs children. i think they do more for me than i do for them. the reality of cancer is not everybody survives. surviving for five years is a big deal. at ctca, they have a huge celebrate life event. that was amazing because the whole day was about all of the survivors. i'm not exactly sure what's ahead of me, but i'm excited about my future. visit cancercenter.com to schedule an appointment now. the united states postal service makes more holiday deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. ♪ with one notable exception. ♪ winning audience awards greeacross the country.ovie he's only the greatest piano player in the world. there's no better way to spend the holidays than with viggo mortensen and mahershala ali. that's a handsome suit. guys looks just like you. they're so good, you'll wish the movie would never end. where'd you learn how to play like that? 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[ laughter ] as america goes deeper into a divided political era, a new book looks at how another generation of leaders tried to hold the country together. joining us now, "new york times" best selling author, h.b. brans. the epic rivalry of henry clay, john calhoun and daniel webster, the second generation of american giants. phil, why did you choose to write about this era? >> because there's been an enormous amount written on the revolutionary war era and the civil war era. but the period in between is kind of like flyover country. congress was the initiator. that's the way the framers designed it. it's the most detailed. during this period, that's the way things ran. it was also a time when compromise was considered a political vi political virtue. i tell it through the lives of three great members of congress in the era, clay, calhoun and webster. >> so these rock stars of this generation, what was the approach to politics in this flyover section of the country, as you call it? are there any parallels you see erupting now? >> the era was when compromise was understood as the way to move things forward. what happened after they died, the spirit of compromise died with them. within ten years, the country was at civil war. there was a period in the 20th century was compromise was admirable. even the reagan administration. all the big pictures were passed with bipartisan majorities. since then, it's largely gone by the boards. i don't want to say exactly a civil war ahead but i do see alarming parallels. >> what were there achievements that compromise played into? >> there's one big controversy on the tariff. this is before president trump was elected, i thought, i'm going to have a hard time getting readers to engage in this. but the tariff was a big issue. the abiding issue was slavery. how does slavery fit into the promise that all men are created equal? the missouri compromise. the compromise of 1850 brought california in as a free state but had to give something to the south and it give the fugitive slave act. an example of a compromise that pleases nobody entirely but didn't displease nobody enough they would decide to just knock the table over. >> you said there was a vacuum which led up to the civil war. if we're going to say -- i don't want to say a vacuum period but a tenuous period. >> until recently, i thought there was no chance that our current time would look like the 1850s. because the most divisive issue was slavery. it was north against south. it's entirely possible it was a geographic separation of the union. until recently, our divide has been partisan, rather than sectional. as the red states get redder, it's not impossible to imagine oregon, california and washington deciding, you know, we had enough of this. support roe v. wade gets overturned and a move to prohib prohibit abortion, then there will parts of the country that say we can't live like this. >> his new book, "heirs of the founders," is out now. while president trump works on his wall, the gop leaders are working on avoiding a potential shutdown. committee chairman shelby told reporters that trump didn't say i'm going to keep the government open. shelby went on to say, quote, i think maybe trump agreed on avoiding a shutdown but wasn't entirely sure. president trump's staff has warned him that he may not get the $4 billion requested for the wall's construction. current government funding is set to expire on december 7 which could trigger a partial shutdown. susan. >> it's just so interesting, we just had a guest on talking about the importance of compromise and how it's the fabric of its history. now you have a president that only sees things as winning or losing. that's where i think a lot of us are. >> i want to watch over the next couple of weeks as donald trump is in the new frontier of being a loser and media meltdown moments. he's alone in the white house every night. he basically, pacine inpacing, richard nixon talking to the portraits. >> i'm expecting more deflections. it doesn't seem pose aebl any of his deflections will work. but you never know. president trump is expected to visit california tomorrow where there was a dramatic rise in the number of people unaccounted for in the camp four. it skyrocketed by more than 500 yesterday. of 631 people missing, many of them elderly. the death toll has also climbed to 63. seven more bodies were discovered. officials say it's now 40% contained. only 40%. public schools across the bay area will be closed today. i think there's a lot more to be learned about the impact of the either quality. we'll be following this. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage. >> hi there, i'm stephanie ruhle. this morning, plugging the wikileak. court files reveal the information about julian assange. lashing out with some of his strongest language in months against the special counsel. in the state of california, a staggering number. over 600 people are still missing from the
home. >> i love that name. i used to win a lot. you got to go with your gut. >> your knowledge of horse racing, base on what happened at fox square yesterday. >> that videotape is under review because i believe your win might have been disqualified just like what happened at the derby. >> interesting. >> and ed may have gotten off to a bit of a run. >> we've checked the tapes. janice is still at curbing hill downs with the details if you messed it. lots going on in sports. big baseball game. >> i like the yankees. i don't know a lot about baseball but i like the yankees. >> race for 2020 out in full fours. joe biden out on the trail in south carolina, a key early state. he's clearly not holding back and going right at the president of the united states. >> he's claiming that jim crowe laws are making a comeback. take a listen. >> the single most important right you have has an american, the right to vote, the right to vote. and folks, last year, 24 states introduced 70 bills to curtail the right to vote. and guess what. mostly directed at, quote, people of color. you see it. we got jim crowe sneaking back in. no, i mean it. why. if everybody has an equal right to vote guess what. they lose. >> jim crowe sneaking back in. that's his play. he hasn't talked about policy. can't go as far left as the other folks where the energy is, his is to punch trump as hard as possible and adding to the racial division by claiming that president trump doesn't want the minorities to vote because we believe in voter id laws and you prove who you have when you come to the ballot box. >> running against. he's constantly running against someone. trump does this. this is bad. i've yet to hear him say one positive thing that he brings to the table policy wise. people are waiting saying, you know, i like him, like i want to support him but what he's actually going do and they can't name one thing. >> a lot of my friends is democrats is a sentence. >> it's true. we live in new york city. a lot of them are. >> this candidacy has a lot of contradictions. he wants to run on unifying the country. what does he do right out of the box? this stuff about jim crowe, charlottesville, let's divide, let's atalk the president attac. he also yesterday behind closed doors was saying i don't want to get into an insult game with the united states. here, quote, so many nicknames i want to give this guy. start with clown. the only place he has any confidence is in the mud. are you going to unify the country or not? are you going to insult the president or not? >> bluster is his play, division is his play. people are very impressed. a lot of us on the surface, biden had a bigger rollout than we thought but his crowds are not there. he made a gaffe about a senator's daughter. >> what about china saying we're not in a competition with china. >> and he's blockin blocking th. he's been shielded and i think that's because his advisers know he doesn't have the speed, the rust is there. he can't compete with trump on the stage. >> but that was critical in south carolina. that's why he's making a play on jim crowe in charlottesville. >> trump can get into the name calling game pretty well, too. biden place that game well. i think on a debate stage, if biden makes it, they will go toe to toe. trump plays the game and people can't play it with him. biden is good at it, a way toin sult you and still be likable. it will be an interesting dynamic for all of us to watch. >> you may be right. i'm still not sold. >> you're never going to be sold. >> i'm sold that bernie is the energy of the party. and he's got such name id, joe biden and the press wants to crown him because they think he can beat trump. he's not that good. >> he's lost in single digits. >> obama picked him out of the crash bip antrash bin and made e president. >> and nancy pelosi is concerned about where this is going. gives this interview to the "new york times" where she has a warning about her party. if we win by, he's not going to respect the election, poison the american mind, challenge each of the races saying you can't win these people. so as we go forward we have to have the same approach. she's suggesting that the president of the united states will not accept the election results which is pretty rich when you consider the fact fa there are many democrats who haven't accepted the results from 2016 as of today. >> and yes. do you know which one is my personal favorite? hillary clinton. she's still saying that the election was stolen from her. listen up. >> i think it's also critical to understand that as i've been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you. >> so we're going to unify folks but more than two years later we're saying it was stolen. basically i'm not accepting the election results of 2016 which is what mueller and everything else is about. the resistance. >> the democrats are so tired of listening to her because they realize there were a lot of mistakes made by hillary clinton. >> that's my favorite. >> not just with her deceit and e-mails, that created a huge problem but the fact that she ignored so many voters throughout the country. joe biden is trying to make up for that right now. it does a disservice to the democrats when she has tone deafness, i told that to her face, she has a tone deaf ps that doesn't acknowledge the weaknesses and if you don't acknowledge what u you did wrong. >> i don't know where they got that chair. it's like from "star trek." but i'll say this. the tickets for the events are being slashed. they can't sell them. at the last minute tickets were going as low as $2. they're telling me it was 20 but i read online it was 2 bucks. who cares. whatever it is, they're not popular and/or relevant. but to already discredit the 2020 election, that's what nancy pelosi is doing in that previous statement. already we're already talking about legitimacy. >> would you shell out 20, would you shell out 22 buck to see bill and hillary clinton. send us an e-mail. if you put down a $2 bet on a horse to win the derby you might be confused. this derby was one for the history books. >> maximum security wins the kentucky derby! >> there is an objection posted on the board. >> after the objection country house winls the kentucky derby. >> in an historical reversal country horse declared the winner after maximum security was disqualified for race interference, the first time this ever happened in derby history. >> race interference? >> we had to dig deep to find our horse racing correspondent. we found her in our senior meteorologist. she is all over it from church hill downs. good morning. reporter: i might have had one too many mint jul juleps last nt but i'm excited to be here. here in louisville, kentucky, i'm not the expert but i brought one in. pat couple couplpat comings is e director. what happened. >> it's unprecedented. the winner was demoted for interference caused during the race. it was a true once in a lifetime event so far. >> you were here when it happened. did you know something was going on? >> it seemed to take a little while. there was a little pause in the action and something was clearly going on and then this announcement was made that country house jockey alleged interference against the unofficial winner maximum security. and then it was later revealed that one of the horses interveered with another lodged a foul. and the stewards upheld the reums as it was written. there was interference. >> who bumped who? >> maximum security came out and three or four horses were really involved. and they lost the opportunity for a better placing. that's the rules in kentucky. if there was some interference and the horse lost opportunity for a better placing there's a demotion. the question is are those the best rules we have in place particularly for america's great esterase. >> people are mad this morning. it was luke a like an nfl game e refs calling something and the fans hate this idea. this is history here. people will be talking about horse racing because of this event at the kentucky derby. >> we'll be getting back to you throughout the morning. whether it's the nba, major league baseball, you love the instant replay when it can get it right but then other times it's 15, 20 minutes. >> i would ban all instant replay all together if i could. i watch the sport as a fan. i want a touchdown to be a touchdown or the end of the horse race just be the end. who knew that a horse could interfere on the path. to me, isn't that the point? >> horses can be very sub born. you never know. >> so can pete. >> e-mail us at friends@foxnews.com. did you place a bet. >> did you place it based on the name as i would. we're going to turn the headlines for you starting with a fox news alert. a police officer is killed during a rue teening strask stop in north carolina. police say a support shot k9 officer jordon shelter and took off. the officers tracked the suspect to an permanent and found him dead inside. officer shelton was on the moorsville police force for 16 years. he is the 15th officer shot and killed in the line of duty this year. tensions escalate in the middle east as palestinian militants in israel swap hundreds of missile strikes. unleashing 120 air strikes on terror targets after palestinians fire more than 400 rockets into israel. the u.n. is working with egypt to restore a cease-fire. wyoming congresswoman liz chaney is being eyed for a senate seat in the state. the door is open for chaney who once challenged. those are your head lines. >> i bet she'll run. >> she's a force still in the conservative movement. the media predicted president trump would destroy our economy for years, but after a huge april jobs number will they apologize? >> probably not. joe has hi own predictions. he joins us next. ♪ this is not a bed... it's a revolution in 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that dominated our news cycles for the last two years? of course not. apologies almost never happen in this business anymore because egos simply don't allow for that. i get a kick out of the fact that paul crewingman is the bill kracrystal of economists and mae should get out of the prediction business. this is what he said after the president was elected, he said it really does look like like president donald j. trump and the markets are plunging. when do we expect them to recover. we're probably going to go into a global recession with no end in sight. but a terrible thing has just happened. what happened in april we've never seen numbers like this as you've talked about, 3.6 unemployment and markets through the roof. time for paul to get out of the prediction phase. >> we'll see what his next column sed. some in the media have had to acknowledge at the very least that there's good things happen. >> are we looking at another four years of president trump? >> the jobs report and more like it could boost him to a second term. >> the economy is on a roll. >> the fist woman couldn't say it are we looking at another four years of president trump. they can barely say it. they have to with these kind of numbers. >> look. when was the last time an incumbent got beat. i think it was george h.w. bush more than 25 years ago. and in an economy like this, how can you see people in wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, key states, north carolina, florida, looking at how they're doing financially, the security that they have in their jobs and say you know what, i want to go with that other guy or girl who's running because they say that president trump is a bad giet without an economic message. i don't remember hillary clinton's message or platform for that matter on the economy at all. president trump had one and that's the difference here, pete. >> i'll throw you a quick curve ball. curveball. is there a candidate on the democratic side that's trying to sake something unique or interesting that might resonate with voters? >> i know bernie sanders is saying something unique but it's not going to resonate when you make it about socialism. biden't doesn't have something to run on. the candidates are not running on the economy because any know it's a losing argument given the numbers that we're seeing. >> great stuff. thanks for your time this morning. appreciate it. >> thanks for listening. >> i did listen. it was excellent. a pro-life celebration in the heart of new york city. thousands gathering to send a message to new york's governor andrew cuomo for his late term abortion law. two women who were part of the event join us next. ♪ >> tech: at safelite autoglass, we know sooner or later... every chip will crack. this daughter was home visiting when mom saw a chip in her windshield. >> mom: honey is that a chip? >> tech: they wanted it fixed fast so they brought it to us. >> mom: hi. >> tech: with our in-shop chip repair service, we can fix it the same day... 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image of my first daughter probably saved her life. >> do you have a message for governor cuomo? >> look at a sonogram and ask the question, what am i looking at. >> my scheduled to abort me and she walked out of her appointment. make a better decision for new york. they deserve better. >> several months ago new york's famous landmarks lit up in pink to celebrate the controversial late-term abortion bill signed into law by governor andrew cuomo. in response to that a christian group held a pro-life event. the first ever, broadcasting a live ultrasound on billboards for all to see. their message, here we are. my next two guests were part of that, an by johnson and abortion survivor clair caldwell. abby, i have seen the mov movie "unplanned." it will change you. but both of you, what was your experience, claire, your experience at the rally. you're doing a pro-life rally in new york city which is very pro-choice turf generally. what was the experience like? >> it was great because we're being told right now in our country that, you know, there's not humanity in the womb and babies don't survive abortions. and it's incredible to show them through ultrasounds that there is life and humanity in the womb and those babies deserve to be protected. and there were two o survivors with me, show the world and show new york city that we have names and faces and stories and we grew up to be somebody and that this does happen. it affects people just like me and just like you. >> abby, as someone who works in a planned parent hood clinic, why the ultrasound? does it bring humanity to the issue? why that? >> i think it does. and we see that across the country. we see the statistic is that 85% of women who see an ultrasound of their child, each if they're considering abortion will choose life. and it's hard to deny the humanity in the womb when you can see the heart beating, the little face, when you can see the baby in the womb. you can't say it's anything else other than a human child. >> claire, i want to remind people if you could, briefly, your personal story and why this was significant for you to be a part of this. you are an abortion survivor. >> i am. i met my birth mother ten years ago and never imagined what she would share with me. she told me when he was 13 she became pregnant and told the only choice for us was an abortion. she had an abortion while she was pregnant with me and they didn't know she was pregnant with twins. the abortion was successful on one bib but bu bib by but baby . >> that's not something that can't completely change you, i don't know what is. we have a sound bite from alabama state representative john rogers. abby, take a listen and let's get your reaction. >> some kids are unwanted. so you kill them now or kill them later. you bring them in the world unwanted and unloved, send them to the electric chair, so you kill them now or kill them now. >> some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or you kill them later. what do you feel when you hear that quote? >> the democrat democrats are sg themselves in a really special way right now, particularly on n the issue of abortion. i listen to that and it's so utterly ridiculous. the solution for those who feel unwanted and unloved is not violence, it's not to kill. it's for us as a society to come alongside them, to accompany them and show them that they're wanted and loved. and how sad it is that this man who is an elected representative of a state would say -- would bow to the pressure of the throwaway culture that we live in today by saying that some people don't have value and don't have dignity. she should be absolutely ashamed of himself. >> claire, quick reaction, your final reaction to that? >> i was that child. i was unwanted by my biological family. but through the gift of adivorce i am wanted. and so there aren't unwanted children like he's describing, not through communities and through support that we can provide. >> i want to thank you both for being here. abortion becomes a very political debate but it's important to remember the heart of the issue and bring people like both of you on to share that. thank you for sharing your story. next, adam sandler returns to "saturday night live" for the first time in 25 years and he brought back an old favorite to roast the 2020 field. >> here we go again, 70-year-old men. ♪ yes it is. you know, maybe you'd worry less if you got geico to help with your homeowners insurance. i didn't know geico could helps with homeowners insurance. yep, they've been doing it for years. what are you doing? big steve? thanks, man. there he is. get to know geico and see how much you could save on homeowners and renters insurance. a cockroach can survive submergede guy. underwater for 30 minutes. wow. yeah, wow. not getting in today. not on my watch. pests never stop trying to get in. we never stop working to keep them out. terminix. defenders of home. when it comes to the quality of our cars: the highest. it's 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>> it wasn't my most athletic moment ever. this is ed at the beginning though. >> yeah, the question is friends@fox news. com did ed play fair, did he cheat. >> should we do what the kentucky derby did, review the tape and go to the rules. very formal rules on these events. >> the key is friday morning when i wasn't here pete came on with the weekday crew said this is year of redemption, i won a lot in 2018 and falls on his face. >> i did not take my humble pie. we're going to review the tape. >> and when "saturday night live" is good, it's when they're having fun. so when adam sandler came back last night it seemed like a lot of fun. >> he talked about being fired from "snl" a while ago. fun stuff. check it out. ♪ i was fired so sad to tell ♪ i never saw it coming, like a ♪ i got fired from snl ♪ i guess nbc has enough of crazy intoed head ♪ ♪ and the songs i sang on the news notes. ♪ maybe they were sick of canteen boy but i think they just hate the justices ♪ ♪ nbc said i was done and then i made over $4 billion at the box office ♪ ♪ so i guess you could say i won ♪ >> that is pretty awesome. funny guy. >> someone used to tell me you get street credit if you get fired. like if you haven't been fired you're not cool. >> who said that? >> greg gutfeld. >> never heard of him. >> i'm working on my street kred. >> you were actually on the street yesterday, fox square. >> well adam sandler went on to do a skit a lot of us enjoyed back in the day and he talked about the 2020 race. listen. ♪ beto will have to wait-o. here we go 70-year-old men. ♪ ♪ [bleep]. >> again, funny stuff. have fun. go after everyone. go after the president, go after the democrats. >> do you have a favorite comedian? comedy is so personal. i'm a ben stiller melissa mccarthy girl. >> i love the laugh. the comedy. i've always wanted to be a stand-up comedian. >> it's the hardest thing on earth. >> i'm not that funny and i'm very invie you invie yous of grd and others. >> rick, you crack me up all of the time. >> are you aware they have a new york's funniest reporter contest? >> really? >> every year they do a standup and reporterses g reporters do . if you go to it, it's really funny. janice deen won it one year. >> very good. >> all of my weather time is gone. here's your temps. not that bad. if you're across the eastern seaboard a lot of times i try to make it seem better that it's not a washout. today is a washout. spotty showers across parts of florida. that will be okay. but look at the carolinas, mid atlantic and the northeast is going to take a long time for this to get out of here, inch, hinch and a half oinch and a hat people. it's not going anywhere. this week we've had a lot of flooding across the central part of the country, the mississippi river cresting at the highest ever peak, which is saying something. we'll take a look at what happened this week. a lot more rain across the central part of the country, severe weather. but i'm concerned about the flooding continuing across the center of the country. temperature wise, good for everybody expect for us here in new york. >> bring better news. >> i'm sorry. >> he brought some good jokes. headlines for you. the hero student who died saving others in the unc charlotte shooting will be laid to rest today with full military honors. police say the rotc cadet riley howell tackled the gunman likely preventing more deaths. the flight data reporter from the boeing 737 that slid into a river in florida has been recovered. it is on its way to ntsb headquarters in washington, d.c. the flight carrying 143 people out of guantanamo bay was landing during thunderstorms. no one was seriously hurt. sadly, three pets on board are presume dead. ntsb officials say the plane has no history of accidents. an attempt to push back on president trump's judicial pick back first. the democrat senator committee posting a poll on twitter asking if people want for supreme court justices like ruth bader ginsberg or brett kavanaugh. 70% of the people voting for kavanaugh. wow. and a couple could bearly believe their eyes when they spotted a black bear lounging in their hot tub. the bear taking a dip while playing with two other cubs outside a tennessee cabin. the woman who took the photo said she had within sitting in that spot for hours earlier. the bears eventually left only to return hours later to play more. i would love a bear. very upset about the animals that died. i warned everyone to get them out of cargo. >> you would love a bear until it mauled you. >> got a cub. they know i relate to them. we get each other. me and the animals, we get each other. >> let's get a bear onset. >> a polar bear. if we're going to do it, do it right. >> meanwhile, joe biden loves that he got an endorse frment a key firefighter's union. >> general president and my friend for a long, long time, make no apologies, i am a union man. >> union mt. is one of his good buddies but i digress. president trump is calling union member foolish and one former member says he's correct. joins us coming up next. we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and . welcome back. some not so quiek sports headlines. the houston rockets beat the golden state warriors 126-121 in an yof time masterpiece but it was a bit of an embarrassing moment for steph curry. >> steph curry drives down late and misses. he missed it. >> that was late in the game. they were mounting a comeback. the warriors lead the series 2-1. i stayed up way too late watching this game to conclusion. james harden hit a three that was unbelievable. the brewers beat the mets in a marathon 18-inning game. brewers win 4-3. and my minnesota twins finally win at yankee stadium for if first time since 2016. thanks for that reminder. our starting mucher throwing six scorelesscoreless innings. we got another one today if it doesn't rain out. ed, sorry about that. >> joe biden loves that he got an endorsement from the national internasal firefighter you onthis week. >> general president and my friend for a long long time, make no apologies, i am a union man. >> president trump firing back tweeting the international association of firefighter union is rebelled on their foolish leader. perhaps they will vote him out of office. he doesn't get it. our next guest agrees. joining me now, retired fdny fire writinger and 9/11 responder chris evans. when we hear and the story is told that the union quote unquote endorsed joe biden, it's not really the union, it's the union leadership. >> correct. none of the members have ever been polled to see who we wanted to endorse. as far as the brothers that i know, and i've spoken to like in the past, i would even say since president trump has been president, have been behind president trump 100%. >> so the president of the union is someone who has worked with joe biden closely and he gets to say look, i'm throwing the union support behind joe biden, not just against president trump but against all of the other 20, 21 other democrats. he can unilaterally say we're behind him. >> he's basically lost the grass rots. hgrassroots. he has no idea what the members want. this is a decision he's making based on his own behalf, not on behalf of the members of the iaff or even, you know, ufa and ufoa. >> because there's multiple organizations. >> right. yeah, the iaff is the internationals. we're under it. that's local 94 would be new york city fire department. >> let's get specific then. what do you like beyond all of the back and forth within the yuan whereon, what do you and other union members like about president trump? >> he stands behind us. i mean, the guy -- you know, president trump hasn't done anything to be really go through all of the stuff that he's going through. the constant attacks on his personal life and his wife and kids. you know, he's done stuff -- he's a grassroots guy. he knows -- you know, he's basically gone out and he built an empire with an intear tense that he got from his family and it was all based on the people that worked for him. >> talk about the connection. how is it then that someone who is rich, ran a business empire as you say has this connection to firefighters like you? >> because we're the grassroots. we're the ones that -- you know, we're the ones that the blood sweat and toars of what things have been built on in this country. we've got men and women running into fires, running into buildings. all of the people making decisions for us don't do that anymore. >> what's your message for the union president for the firefighters and any other union leader who may make a unilateral decision like this when some of the rank open file members like yourself might like president trump or someone other than joe biden? >> i think it's time they wake up. i think it's time to wake up and put all of their political stuff aside and start thinking to the members, the men and women in the street, the men and women who make up the union. that's who it's about. it's, like i said once before, the weakest link in a chain is just that. >> we appreciate you telling your story and appreciate what you did after 9/11. thank you brothers and sisters. >> can i say one thing? >> yes. >> before i left my house my daughter said to me, dad, whatever you do, don't wear your coat. and i told my daughter the reason why i wear my jacket is because to have 343-plus firefighters that have died since 9/11. i wear it if are the brothers who died before 9/11 and i bring them with me and i can't thank you enough for the opportunity to be out here. >> no disrespect to your daughter but we hope to have you back in the future and we hope you wear your jacket then and in the future. >> thank you. facebook under fire for banning controversial userses. u be could the move to crack down on hate speech cause more problems? we have that story next. bl facebook facing backlash after the social media giant took steps this week to enforce its so-called hate speech policies and community standards by banning several controversial figures including alex johns, com.>> but could this cause more problems? joining us kara sedwick. welcome to the show. >> thanks for having me back. >> the concern here is who is doing the policing and who is deciding what hate speech is. there's a slippery slope that can unfortunately happen here. i think if firs first and forcet it'foremost it'simportant to rew complicated this problem is. constant policing and identifying bad actors on the platforms is very tricky. and then you add something as subjective arguably as hate speech. that makes it so much harder to define and review. i think we should have some degree of sympathy for the hard work that the talented people are trying to get after, and our perceptions an approach should be grounded in that reality first and foremost before we analyze and prescribe any sort of weight to this. >> i'm going to challenge you for that. i have no sympathy for them. i think the answer to complex things like this is simplicity. we have the first amendment in this country, the peach that we don't like the most is the most protected. take laura loomer, an activist is banned from facebook, instagram, twitter, paypal, uber eats, facebook the latest because she's dangerous, what? her speech is too far? >> that's the crux of the issue. so facebook itself has been very public about not wanting to be an arbiter of truth. but nonetheless these slippery slope arguments arise. you have free speech questions, facebook is a. >> what's dang louse about laura loomer? >> you don't want facebook saying this is dangerous. you don't want them to provide value judgments on whether or not this person is a actually dangerous. the way to get around that is having clear and transparent terms of service and uniformly applying the standards for banning people. you should really allow people to have resource for contesting a ban if they believe that it's been unfairly immediated out. >> we have a quote from facebook saying we've babbed individuals and organizations that promote and engage in violence and hate regardless of ideology. the process for the violators is extensive and it led up to our decision to remove these accounts today. there's a distinction between people actively calling for violence and the conversation about hate speech that becomes more subjective. >> absolutely. and i think, again, if facebook wants to be a marketplace for ideas, then they have to be consistent in that regard. >> you know they're not being consistent. they're not. they're blocking conservatives an folks on the left that say hideous things get a pass. >> and everything they do though is really in the context of attempting to prevent real-world harm. and i think key to this, critical in really understanding what they do. full disclosure, i worked for facebook in terms of counterterrorism, to try to help get that stuff off of the platform in 2016 and 2017, everything they do is preventing the real-world harm. >> thanks for your input. for "fox & friends" coming up at the top of the 7:00 hour. ♪ ♪ if you missed the kentucky derby, what happened at the end is not actually what happened. a horse in the lead, maximum security won before our eyes, but then it was revoked because apparently the horse broke the rules or the jockey did and instead they gave it to country homes. i'm confused. >> horse broke the rules. it happens. >> country house. >> that's a great name by the way. >> you might have to take a poll to decide who wins. know and company would do that? gallop. >> well played. >> that was a good one. >> what's going on. my joke. >> we've got janice deen on the ground. oh, wait. clearly, look at that hop. >> if anything was made for a review it's ed false's start. >> look, i'll admit it. >> might have had it if you didn't face plant. the face plant set you back. >> i was overcompensating for this sudden lead that ed took based on his admission. >> and did like a little run in the start and then hopped. >> it was only a little wet yesterday and you slipped. today if we did it. >> a slip and slide. >> who actually won. janice is probably listening right now. she's our derby expert. we're going to go to her and jed you're going to weigh in too. >> i've already weighed in. >> i thought you were on my side. >> i don't encourage him ever. >> look, politics out there, obviously as we race to 2020, nancy pelosi has a little warning for her party about trying to stay moderate instead of moving too far left. >> moderate? >> to the left side in her party is even saying everybody calm down. >> i think you see the job numbers yesterday, see what's happening in the field. a lot of uncertainty. this is nancy pelosi's warning. she said this to the "the new york times," own the center left, own the mainstream, our passions were for health care, bigger paychecks, cleaner government, a simple message. we did not engage in the exhumeu brinses. but to say that means she's -- there's a lot of worry amongst democrats about bernie sanders. >> nancy pelosi is a moderate centrist. think about how times are changed. years ago we were talking about how pelosi and obama were so far left and now aoc is dominating the democratic party that you've got people calling for socialism and saying that terrorists in jail should have voting rights. >> aoc recently said moderates are eh, right? >> that's who she's talking to, to aoc who has a huge social media following. she has all of this attention and nancy pelosi recognizes that her message is not going to resonate with so many democrats in the country who are mainstream. he's trying to pull everybody back to focus. whether or not that will work, i don't know. >> focus, people. >> we got to win. >> in the beginning of the quote where she says we have to be in the mainstream, socialism is not in the mainstream and maybe that's an alarm bell, a warning she's sounding through the "new york times." folks wake up. anytime we have a damn -- you d- oh, you guy guys guys are exagg. >> at the same time she's also fanning the flames of will the 2020 election be legitimate. this is her saying if the democrats win by four seats, 1,000 votes, he, meaning president trump is not going to respect the election, poison the american mind, challenge the races. he had to win. imagine if he hadn't won. don't even imagine. so as we go forward we have to have the same approach. >> i think back to that last presidential debate in 2016 when our own chris wallace asked would you accept the reults and resultresults andthere was a puy clinton, dum donald trump won't accept the results. and then he wins and it's hillary clinton today still saying that the election is stolen from me and resisting. >> as a result of not accepting that election we've had to talk about the mueller investigatio investigationed ad nauseam.thers controversy. but it's interesting. americans, there's a new cnn poll, 69% of americans think congress should investigate the origins of the doj inquiry into russian meddling. 69% independents and 62% republicans. now people are saying media, you the story started as collusion for the longest time and now we have questions for was there a basis for the whole thing? >> did the democrats misunderstand the question there? >> i think so. they want, what else did trump do. they don't understand that it's going to turn around an barack obama maybe. >> they totally don't. our country has a couple of different conversations at the same time. they barely rarely intersect. you watch that network that starts with c ends with n, you wouldn't know about the dossier, you wouldn't know about all of the things that led to this. >> when it appears on the front page of the "the new york times" there's a whole part of the country, what's this dossier thing, what's this spying thing. it was crazy. >> no it's real. >> a lot of democrats are upset about this because they feel like democrats are losing the election by focusing on this so much. they're sitting at their dinner tables and saying why is my party not talking about this. enough already. stop talking about trump and mueller, talk to me about health care and the economy. they feel neglected. that's turned on the investigation quite a lit. saying enough of this, talk about the elections so you can win the election. >> i might have to turn on the channel to see how they report on their own poll or go to an airport. >> don't get me started. but i will say, how do you even break that down. >> ari flies ari fleischer, hert he's saying. quote, i have a hard time believing the fbi used covert techniques versus a presidential campaign without obtaining approval from above. did attorney general loretta lynch, the democrat, you remember, did she or anyone else tell the obama white house is what he's saying, who at the white house, did biden know, did obama know? this story is not over. think about it, how high up the chain did this go. do you think it was just james comey and andrew mccabe going rogue? maybe, maybe not. think about the time that we spent talking about trump tower meetings. did trump whisper this, have the conversation about this. the media doesn't want to discuss what the obama white house may have known. this is a huge implication for 2020. joe biden wants to be the commander of chief. >> he says there was not a whiff of scandal. >> and we don't know if he knew about it. and the folks and the rest of the town won't do much to find out. >> that's what's going to keep it alive. joe biden is going to be expected to answer tough questions about what he knew. he's tied to all of that? >> nancy pelosi trying to keep her base calm saying don't go off the rails to the left. look at the p's base and how excited they are. they're loving the president's claim of the collusion delusion. they have merchandise flying off of the shelves. >> the campaign team, i've seen a lot of the t-shirts and mugs and the shirt collusion delusion is apparently jumping off of the shelshelves. and it's a reflection of ind vegas. >> there is it coffee mugs with the president. >> it's smart to launch that. and everybody loves a logo tee. i do. it's a smart idea to take the concept and market it. there's a free market guy for you right there. >> that's free. and i do owe ed a gift. i'm going to have to log on and -- are m. >> are you excited, ed? >> i think i get to pick my mug of the tweet and whatever it is you have to have it on the show. >> reluctantly, leet me read it first. >> can you imagine the t-shirts he wears off of the air? >> no. >> i've got a lot of them. >> i don't want to know. >> i bought that one capitalism shirt that we saw in the diner. >> we were talking about the kentucky derby and what a race it was. >> the 145th kentucky derby was one for the history books. >> maximum security wins the kentucky derby! >> there is an objection that has been posted on the board. >> after the objection country house wins the kentucky derby. >> yes, historic reversal. country house now declared the official winner at maximum security, the horse who actually finished first was disqualified for race interference. >> it's time to cheak back with janice dean live from church hill downs. how are you? reporter: louisville is waking up to an upset, the first time in 145 years. this is what the headline is of the courier journal. i'm going to bring in an expert here with wdrb. oh my goodness, what happened? >> that's exactly right. we don't know what the day is going to bring. but this is fascinating. no kentucky derby winner has ever been taken down on the track and the reaction has been strong. reporter: what do you think? what's the reaction? >> i don't know. a lot of it is against. you hate to see the horse that crossed the finish line first have it taken away from him. that's a tough thing to swallow. but then you look at the tape and see this is kind of the swerve heard round the world by a horse that got spooked maybe by some noise inside and came out, some other horses affected. you've got stewards, video replay, a 22-minute wait. what else do you need? reporter: you were here and you've never seen anything like it. >> no. i was on the track and it was surreal. you had a group around one horse and his connections and another imrowp around the other and a whole crowd, 150,000 people waiting to see who would be the winner holding tickets to see if they could cash nem them. a huge upset in terms of who won. reporter: we're going to be talking about this all morning long. it's mystery whether you like it or not we'll be talk about it for years to come. >> does you see ed and i eerks ? can you call it? >> we need to ask the judges. i clearly saw an upset. >> she's not saying it was overturned. >> we'll get her to check at the end and come back to her. this is like the mueller deal. you don't get the answer you like and you're going to g keep investigating. >> thanks for backing me up. headlines for you this morning starting with a fox news alert. a police officer is killed during a routine traffic stop in north carolina. police say a suspect shot k9 officer jordon harris sheldon and then took off. sheldon died at the hospital. the officers tracked down the suspected gunman to an apartment and found him dead inside from an apparent self-inflected gunshot wound. he was on the police force for 16 years. he is the 125th officer shot and killed in the line of duty this year. the leader of north korea putting his troops on high alert following live fire drills of long range rocket launchers. north korean media releasing these images of kim jong-un overseeing the drills. this is wawn day after they u fired projectiles off of the eastern coast. this is amid stalled talks between the u.s. and north korea. there are so many good tweet mugs. you're going to get a good one. i think this is the biggest story of the weekend. the video is shocking. children performing at an islamic center in philadelphia saying they will kill for the army of allah. watch. that's in philadelphia. philadelphia. that was just the beginning. so why aren't more people talking about this? we will be in a moment. . she a part of a very crowded democratic field. why do we need so many candidates. >> 21. that's a lot of people. >> wow. >> 21 people running for the nomination and there may be more. >> the 2020 poll, guess what, it got a little more crowded. seems like that's a daily occurrence. another democratic has jumped in because apparently the water is great. >> the water is great. maybe, maybe not. 22 democrats officially in. two more expected to join as early as this week. is the growing list of con teppedders a plus or a minus for the democratic party and for the president. here to weeg in weigh in, a forr bernie sanders worker. i remember both sides of this, the republicans are going to be so damaged by all of these potential candidates, 16, 17 in there and then maybe it made donald trump stronger in the general election. what say you now about 20, 21 or more democrats. >> the same thing. pit's it's a wonderful thing. in 2016 they were told they could not. and of course there's a lot of people running to boost their name recognition. it's a good thing. it's good to see competition. i believe in competition. i think it gives everyone an opportunity to see different policies to distinguish themselves to see who is really for medicare for all, who is not and who has a plan. i think it's a good thing. i'm hoping that maybe we can get to 25 or 30. it will be entertaining. >> it will be entertaining. but if you get to 25 or 30 and bill deblasio here from new york far on the left talking about maybe getting in this week as well, your own party leader, speaker nancy pelosi is saying, folks, calm down. you may be going too far to the left. how do you stay in the mainstream when you have socialists and other liberals tacking the party to the left? >> yeah. i think, you know, what we saw with bernie sanders, although it was popular, had a lot of young voters who wanted to go to the left, unfortunately it it didn't work out that way in the polls. most of the americans are moderate. i'm not a socialist. one of the things that progressives need to pay attention to is the people who won the house were more in the center who took the republican seats. if they lean too far to the left, that will be a problem when we look at the general election. >> let's talk about joe biden who has a former vice president is trying to run as a mainstream candidate but then said this in south carolina. watch. >> last year 24 states introduced or enacteds at least 70 bills to curtail the right to vote. and guess what, mostly directed at, quote, people of color. you see it. we've got jim crowe sneaking back in. no, i mean it. why? because if everybody has an equal right to vote, guess what. they lose. they lose. >> he said he's going to run as a yuan fire. nofeununifier.he's talk about j. >> everybody loves uncle joe. but for him to be talking about jim crowe and the one who implemented the crime bill when it was worse than jim crowe when it comes down to what he's done to my community, my generation of locking up more, he has a lot of explaining to do and it's going to go deeper than the right to vote. >> worse than jim crowe. strong words this morning. appreciate you come in and giving your point of view. >> thank you. the video is disturbing. children saying they will kill for allah. and this happened at an islamic center in philadelphia. the birth birthplace of democra. why aren't more people outraged? we'll discuss it next. with an ingredient originally discovered... . it is time now for your news by the numbers. first $9 million, that's how much maximum security's disqualification cost the kentucky derby betters according to reports. the favorite losing its win in the historic finish after being accused of interfering with other horses. next $2. that's how little you could pay to see bill and hillary clinton. ticket price for the two speaking tour plummeting after initially selling for more than $1,700. that's quite a drop. the 13-city tour started late last year and wraps up tonight in las vegas. finally $1.1 million, the price tag on this nashville home once owned by dolly parton. the singer lived at the property from 1980 to 1996. the seller says he's tried to keep parton's signature style including wall paper she's personally selected. a shocking video shows kids in philadelphia, in america, at an islamic center appearing to vow to chop off heads and sacrifice their lives all in the name of allah. watch. ♪ ♪ [speaking foreign language] >> we will chop off their heads. dr. ahmad is a muslim sco alreadscholarand joins me to we. to see this in philadelphia is disturbing. >> beyond shocking. this is out of the islamic playbook, pure muslim brotherhood indoc indoctrinatioe it's completely shocking and absolutely divorced from islam which recognizes jews as legitimate people, recognizes the holy land belonging to jews and condemns suicide and this kind of warfare on civilians. >> this school is run by the muslim american society. you say this group has tie to the muslim brotherhood. >> the united arab emirates dez designated this as a terrorism group. remember, the muslim brotherhood is the mother ship of islamist terrorism. that's what bitte birthed hamash is launching tickets on israel right now to the tune of 430 in the last day. that's what birthed hezbollah. >> and it seems to come walk to israel, jerusalem. and to you hatred. you're totally right about that. here's a statement that the muslim american society put out saying not all songs were properly vetted. this was an unintended mistake and the students are remorseful. they're going to conduct an investigation to make sure it doesn't happen again. this was a mistake. there were adults in the room. >> someone was filming it. the parents must have given permission and the children didn't look remorseful. it's horrifying. plus they have more than 50 chapters. where is this happening. >> 50 charms in america? >> in america. >> so 5 50 charps 50 chapters oe this going on, we just don't see it. >> could be. we don't know. we don't want to demonize all muslim centers in america but this gives us pause. >> that's the point. you don't clarify who's doing this type of thing, everyone looks at the next islamic school in their community with suspicion. you've made the point, call out the radicals and it liberates the peaceful muse ims. >> including the muslim parents who want to have their children educated in muslim and afraid to participate in centers like this. and the president of egypt just met with our president, president trump on april 9th to recommend that the united states designate the muslim brother hood as a foreign terror organization to free up our intelligence services to investigate the finances, the backing and affiliations of groups like this. >> that might be coming from dangerous places. >> president trump should be commended for that. >> this should be a wake-up call for a lot of people. this is america, folks. thank you for your time. the april jobs report shows our economy is booming. well but not if you ask bernie sanders. >> unemployment is down. i want you to think, does that mean that the economy is booming for ordinary people? think about that. >> he moonlights as an economist. no, he doesn't. but this guy does. stuart varney says bernie won't win in 2020 with that kind of a message. coming up. ♪ you only pay ♪ that's good producing right there. well done, folks. let's bring in stuart varney host of "my take with stuart varney" one of the hardest working in sho showbiz. >> that was very appropriate music. the president is winning on the economy. america is winning on this economy. light bulb has just gone off. we now realize that yes, we've returned to prosperity. imre, we do have the most competitive best performing economy in the world. better yet, there's every sign that it's going to keep going at least through this year. we've got 3% growth now. larry kudlow told me the other day you've got a shot at hitting 4% at some point this year. now that produces, doesn't it, a democrat dilemma. how do you run against prosperity. how do you run against his store rick low unemployment. >> ai i'll show you how. here' bernie sanders. >> show me. >> unemployment is down. i want you to think. does that mean that the economy is booming for ordinary people? think about that. and you got to do something that the media often doesn't do, that congress doesn't do, that most politicians don't do, go into your own hearts and into your own minds and say what is going on in my life. >> 30-second rebuttal, sir. >> he's running on feelings. ignore policy. ignore the idea that socialism would ruin us. no, you run on feelings and he's flat out wrong. he's saying most ordinary people have not cashed in on this boom. flat out wrong. lowest unemployment come on. >> . >if i have more money in mypock. how it is going to work if people feel better, that's going to work against him. >> he's got the media on his side. you watch the evening news, you going to see anything about the economic boom? no, you are not. you are going to see investigate, impeach, green new deal, socialism. you're not going to see the triumph of capitalism. >> how has the media reacted to the headlines? disbli was astonished. i can't get on my phone here but there was a headline on the "washington post." >> there it is right there. good producing again. >> one step ahead. >> is this dmi too good to be true. they're desperate for me to say yes, it's too good to be true. we can't believe this. >> do you actually mean to tell me that bill deblasio getting into this race is going to change everything in your mind? >> socialism will really change everything, won't it? it will ruin us. bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, this extreme leftist politics is going to ruin what we enjoy. america is going to see this. the president is at 56% approval. >> i don't care what the media says anymore. people don't care. if you have more money in your pocket, you don't care what the head line reads. but i have a question. for you. pressing question of the day. i hope you're redy. what color are these sneakers, are they teal and gray or pink and white. >> pink and white. >> where is the pink? help me out. >> thank you. >> it's like a split coach. couch. the pic and white over here and the teal and gray over here. >> what color is teal. >> it's like a lighter shade of what i'm wearing. >> see the blue next to it for "fox & friends," see the blue color of our screen. that's blue. see what's in the middle? that's pink or beige or whatever you want to call it. what do these people see. >> these optical illusions. >> hegseth right again. >> is that the head line here? >> this is the dmz, we're on the right side of it. >> friends@kno@fox news. com. >> this is the internet things that people see everything differently. >> remember the dress? >> so glad we dragged you into that. >> glad we have an economic expert in to weigh in on the color of these sneakers. appreciate it. headlines for you now. the credit card belonging to an american killed in mexico six months ago resurfaces in the u.s. police releasing new images this week saying this man used the card at an atm in oklahoma city. investigators are looking for the man and the woman seen with him. taylor meyer who is from california was killed while vacationing in mexico whil in november. >> tennessee's health department is shutting down its measles hotline. the hotline was created last month to answer questions about the virus. health officials say now that people should call their doctors directly. there are five confirmed measles cases in tennessee and more than 700 cases nationwide. the world's rich etchma etcn could pocket $400 million when uber goes public. he initially invested 3 million in the company. he's counterly worth $157 billion. that number is too big to imagine. 18 months after a severe spinal injury on the field, pittsburgh steelers linebacker did this. that's right. he is dancing at his wedding. even though doctors once told him he only had a 20% chance of walking again. he hopes to where you know day play football again. >> it was a devastating injury. >> mind over matter. rick, i wonder what rick thinks about the sneakers. did you get a look at those? >> i did. >> what did you see? >> green and gray. >> thank you. >> what's wrong with you people. >> you really see pink? >> 100% all the way pink. >> that is so bizarre. we need like some doctor or somebody do come in and break this down for us. >> we should. rick, you've got a hardy umbrella. >> i do. i had to make one. and today, you i tell you what. we've got a rainout of your sunday. a good day to stay 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picked up especially with joe biden entering the race and having to answer key questions about what his role was, what president obama's role was and what the role was in the administration in generating and initiating this investigation. >> absolutely. the report came out and report there had was no collusion with russia. what the president said was true. they came up with what the president has been saying all along. there was no collusion. the "the new york times" on friday came out with a bombshell story saying there was someone that came to george papadopoulos clearly trying to illicit something from him. there's a question of where that came from. understanding what happened is going to be very important. pane what the whole of the obama administration is. who knew what when is interesting. what's interesting about the poll is two things. one, there's clearly an interest in the american people of understanding why this happened in the first place, what the origins were at the beginning of the investigation so it never happens again. but secondly they're giving president trump the credit he te deserves for moving the economy forward. we want to know what happened so it doesn't happen again but secondly we want to focus on the things that matter in our lives. >> do you think the democrats are confused? they're the highest number, 76% of democrats think we should investigate the origins of the inquiry. are they forit or do they really want to get to the truth? >> that's a great question, pete. i don't know. there's a little confusion. but the other part of it is i if you're a die hard democrat and you've been hearing the collusion story months on end and you're wondering to yourself, wait a second, you hear people like adam schiff say conclusively there was collusion, it was staring us in the face and then you see robert mueller come out with a thorough investigation saying no there wasn't any. it leaves a lot of the base that has been brainwashed walking around saying wait a second, i don't understand what's happening here. i was told it was clear and day that it was there and then you put this gentleman robert mueller who there who doesn't find anything and i think there is a degree of confusion among the democratic base. >> you used to help shape the message at the white house and you still from the outside have a chance to do that with the campaign come in 2020. you mentioned the economy. all of these are important issues we're talking about with the doj and how this started. but when you see the jobs number that was off the charts for this president as he heads into 2020, about 80% or 90%, have to be about mueller and the rare-view mirror stuff. would you suggest that the president that he needs to look forward in 2020 or should he keep talking about the investigation? >> well, there's -- this is a double-edged sword, ed. yes, the more we talk about the economy, you have 263,000 people that got jobs last month, that's amazing. the unemployment rate dipping to 3.6%, the lowest since 1969. the more we talk about those kind of issues, the the impact of the daily lives of the american people the better. this being said, president trump is where he is because of how he's conducted himself, tweeted and acted. to come in and say if you only didn't do this. the reason he's president is because he didn't listen to a lot of people and did what he believed in. it's tough to monday mornd quarterback and say only if you did the following. for my standpoint it would be better to focus on the accomplishments and the way the economy is moving forward. but you have to give him credit that he wouldn't be where he was if he listening to a bunch 06 washington pundits. >> no doubt about it. we'll find out in 10 minutes when he tweets what the answer is. thanks a lot. >> have a great sunday. a child's tragic choking death motivated our next guest to save lives. >> as the father of a young daughter he did not want other families to 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can do it. on my 54th birthday i received a letter from ikea that we saved a 3-year-old child. the best birthday present i every got. if you have perseverance to go down the entrepreneurial path, your wildest dreams could come true. i guess i would say it takes courage and perseverance but you don't know where i it will lead you. >> how did the word get out about this device? people using it? >> it's in every country. we save lives all over the world, greece, spain, australia, america. facebook mostly. it's startup. i started in any garage. it's from zero to where we are today. mostly parents. that's who we see most. pi passion is schools and special needs but mostly parents like myself. >> we appreciate you being here. an inspiring story. appreciate it. anthony scaramucci, rachel compos duf duffy and maria bartiromo, all here live. ♪ ... >> ♪ party rocket in the house tonight, everybody just have a good time ♪ >> [applause] jedediah: i feel the same way. pete: i'm on planet america. and you can go to foxnews.com about this shoe it is definitely painted white. jedediah: there are clear teams here there's me and ed versus pete and stuart stuart varney so you got to pick your team wisely stuart: i love my team. ed: we've got a great show for you still two more big hours to go, anthony scaramucci coming later this hour, joe biden out on the stump slamming the president, interesting, you know a lot of democrats doing that but he was initially running as a different kind of democrat and he was going to unify the country. pete: to your point he maybe have said that but its been the exact opposite as candidate biden starting with the video about charlottesville and taking it straight to the president. he went even further yesterday in south korea when he talked about, well, listen. >> the single-most important right you have have as american is the right to vote and folks, last year, 24 states introduced 70 bills to curtail the right to vote and guess what? mostly, directed at "people of color." you see it. we got jim crow sneaking back in no, i mean it. why? if everybody has an equal right to vote guess what, they lose, they lose. ed: he's doing this in south korea where the african american vote is key in the democratic primary. jedediah: a question for me is always how are democrats hearing that? it was interesting, ed you spoke to former bernie sanders national staffer, and you talk about she talked about why joe biden needs to explain these comments particularly in relation to his prior support with the crime bill. take a listen. >> for him to be talking about jim crow and when he was the one that implemented the crime bill which was worse than jim crow when it comes down to what its done to my community particularly my generation i was locking up for black men in prison, so he has a lot of explaining to do and it'll go a little bit deeper than just the right to vote so i'm looking forward to hearing what he will do to actually fix that plan. ed: something hillary clinton had a deal with in 2016 because her husband signed that crime bill into law, joe biden was the chairman of the senate judiciary committee and he explained the context was violent crime was on the rise in america, democrats were tarred with the idea they weren't tough on crime so they wanted to make that a tough crime bill but the rhetoric around it as well as the policy implications were a lot of african americans were locked up but they talked about "predators " out on the streets and mostly joe biden and bill clinton talking about young black men. pete: but whose made the criminal justice a big part of his administration? oh, president trump. african american unemployment historic lows. i mean, it's worth relitigating because it's exactly what they are doing. they want a race about race. they want to say that president trump is racist. ed: as you said with charlottesville. pete: that he, joe biden is going to be a healer and bring it together but what he actually does with his rhetoric is further divide because it's so disingenuinous. what these voter laws are about in minnesota i can walk to the polls and be like i'm joe smith and they would be like do you have any proof? and i'd a no, i'm joe smooth and they would be like okay go vote. i show my id to get on an airplane, or buy a six pack and i don't have to show an id to vote and that makes me racist or get rid of a voter on the list, maybe that's a good idea too. it's all disingenuinous because he wants to frame it in terms of helping him in that primary race and make him look like he's tough on trump. half the time he's reading he's not all that energetic, he's overhyped. he's well-known. ed: other democrats have big problems as well because they've been pushing the party further further left. jedediah: that's right, napolitano is actually out there talking a lot talked a lot about the 2020 election and in some respects she's trying to reign in a lot of the folks on the left like the aocs, but here she said if we win by four seats by 1,000 votes each he's not going to respect the election he would poison the public mind and challenge each of the races. he would say that you can't see these people we had to win. don't even imagine so as we go forward we have to have the same approach so they are obviously talking about if democrats were to come through and were to win the election in 2020 coming out saying well president trump, he won't respect the results of that election which is real rich when you think of the fact that hillary clinton is out there still saying that was stolen from me and so many democrats are out there talking about how elections were stolen from them. ed: nancy pelosi and many leader s and many of her party have not accepted president trump as a legitimate president more than two years later so now they say oh, he's not going to set the results? they haven't accepted the results. pete: you're exactly right but also basic admission he's going to win. they look at the jobs numbers. they look at the cast of characters they've got running and they say if he wins this thing how do we legitimize him a second time because whose another member of congress saying he's probably going to win. ed: al green. pete: he's gone the impeachment training since the beginning but now the idea is he's probably going to win. ed: he's saying he's probably going to get re-elected so when you talk about not accepting results so here is beto o'rourke out on the actual p battling joe biden or the 20 or other democrats and he's saying stacey abrams basically run won the race in georgia. she's out on the stump with him. >> he is invalid to question it , and he wants to run for office you've got to concede the election. their humanity and their citizenship has to be in question. [applause] >> we have automatic voter registration so that when you turn 18 years old you're ready to vote. we need to end the members of congress choosing their voters no more in the united states and as president of the united states, if she's willing to do it you will put stacey abrams in charge. ed: i didn't mean to imply they were together. i meant that they're together on this issue because she's saying basically, i won. i should be the governor of georgia and beto o'rourke is then out saying i would put her in charge of voting rights if i'm elected president when she's saying i won, i didn't lose even though the votes actually were counted in the other direction. pete: she also said we're not going to ask you about that citizenship thing any more. that's exactly what we're going to ask you if you come to this country. did you come here legally or not it's lunacy and listen, she's frustrated fine. she lost a very close race, but again, it goes back to what biden was talking about. it's legitimaticy of elections saying what's the next one maybe i'll make a better case next time and win. jedediah: the democrats create their own alternate reality like oh, i lost the election instead of actually acknowledging what happened or doesn't a phase of acceptance ever come into play for them? they create this alternate reality and speak about it as if it's real the same way to create this oh, trump is a racist all talk but when the problem is when you look at the results like you were talking before about african american unemployment when you look at what he actually wanted to accomplish on immigration and how he has separated legal versus illegal immigration and the reality just doesn't match these democrats talking points that just aren't rooted in any reality so people need to realize that. pete: voters get a choice eventually. jedediah: something else we got for you is some headlines starting with a fox news alert. police in north carolina are expected to hold a news conference this afternoon, after an officer is shot and killed during a traffic stop. canine officer jordan harris sheldon was on the moorsville police force for six years. officers tracked down the suspected gunman and found him dead inside from an apparent self-inflicted gun shot wound and he is the 15th officer shot and killed in the line of duty this year. also breaking overnight, tensions escalate in the middle east as palestinian militants swaps hundreds of rocket strikes israel's prime minister vowing to ramp up attacks on the gaza strip after unleashing 120 terror targets after palestinian militants fired more than 400 rockets into israel. at least one israeli man was killed and eight palestinian militants along with a pregnant woman and young child have also died. and michael cohen reports to prison tomorrow. president trump's former personal attorney was sentenced to three years for campaign finance violations, tax evasion, fraud and lying to congress. it comes as federal prosecutors refused to meet with cohen who claims to have damaging information on president trump. ed: wow so as winner of the fox derby let me read the kentucky derby, historically controversial finish. sounds like us too, the 145th kentucky derby. >> there is an objection that has been posted on the board. >> after the objection, country house wins the kentucky derby. ed: wow maximum security crossed the finish line first but was disqualified for race interference as you can see in that circle. country house declared the winner. i want to clarify yesterday i was saying my old kentucky home is played after the racist actually played before the race. at kentucky basketball games they play my old kentucky home after the game. pete: well that's fitting you got it mixed up just like we did on the winner of the race. ed: so i mixed that up and a lot of other people mixed up some things. the winner of a race or maybe the winner of a pageant? pete: yeah, it was brought to mind a few other instances to have a little fun in places but they didn't quite get it right the first time. watch. >> miss universe 2015 is columbia! >> [applause] >> i have to apologize. runner up is columbia. >> [applause] pete: oh, i forgot about that. jedediah: i was actually traumatized by that. pete: i give that man so much credit. jedediah forget about him the girl that was named a winner and then retracted there had to be a moment i don't know how she kept her composure. i would have completely lost it. ed: what about remember when warren beaty read lala land as best pictures at the oscars in 2017 instead of moonlight? pete: that's true and then of course you've got this call, um, the bad saints/rams call, obviously pass interference and the guy gets mauled before the ball even got there, no replay on that one. jedediah: i remember you complaining about that. ed: so the rams come out on that one and then they go to the super bowl and lay an egg. if the saints made the super bowl -- jedediah: just so you know i'm still mad that pete said horses don't have emotions. they do have emotions and they're very tender and sweethearted and they will be in trouble through the commercial break. pete: can they do addition and subtraction? jedediah: yes better than some people. pete: i know they can run fast. all right, president trump picking up a major win despite resistance from democrats. the senate just confirmed his 100th judge to the bench, so glad, ed. ed: so why our next guest says the democrats obstruction will backfire big time. >> ♪ just what i needed, i needed someone to please ♪ prestigious jobs over the years. news producer, executive transport manager, and a beverage distribution supervisor. now i'm a director at a security software firm. wow, you've been at it a long time. thing is, i like working. what if my retirement plan is i don't want to retire? then let's not create a retirement plan. let's create a plan for what's next. i like that. get a plan that's right for you. td ameritrade. ♪ was a success for lastchoicehotels.comign badda book. badda boom. this year, we're taking it up a notch. so in this commercial we see two travelers at a comfort inn with a glow around them, so people watching will be like, "wow, maybe i'll glow too if i book direct at choicehotels.com". who glows? 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>> well i think that the challenge is you never know where the next attack is going to come. we saw for example, the ninth circuit has been notorious for stepping out of the normal legal standards to block the president 's made laws for example, i think any chance they get they are going to try to go around the normal legal process the courts unfortunately have taken part in this resistance movement so it's very exciting somewhere especially like the liberal ninth circuit to see great judges put on and if trump can fill all the spots available in that circuit for the first time in decades we will be within almost pairity on that circuit and that's very important. ed: the judicial crisis network and author of an upcoming back on justice kavanaugh, is that right? >> that's right just it's on trial coming out in july about his confirmation process. pete: write a book on that for sure, thank you. well, adam sandler back on saturday night live for the first time in almost 25 years. ed: he brought back an old favorite, to roast the 2020 field. comedian michael loftus is here to react, next. to look at me now, you don't see psoriasis. you see clear skin. cosentyx can help people with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis find clear skin that can last. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, if your inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur. how sexy are these elbows? 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i think he's from minnesota, you're right. jedediah: well for the first time in nearly 25 years adam sandler makes his big return to snl bringing back an iconic favorite to roast the 2020 election. ♪ here we go again, 70-year-old man ♪ [laughter] >> [clapping] ed: comedian michael loftus joins us to react. i just want you to jump in it was pretty funny. >> it was hilarious, sandler was bringing the heat and i'll say i was a little disappointed with you three as i'm getting ready to do this show you're teasing the snl story and you're like welcome eddie is great, we love comedians and i'm like oh, here we go like you know whose funny? i'm like these guys. and like greg gutfeld is funny and then it's like do you know who else is funny like rick richmuth. jedediah: [laughter] >> rick saccone hilarious. pete: you're right. >> you could hear my heart break in 50 states. i was crying in the makeup chair jedediah: but it gave you a great opportunity to come on here and make great jokes so there you go. ed: but sandler isn't it good when saturday night live doesn't just spend an hour eating up on president trump? they made fun of the president a little bit and made fun of the democrats too. >> yeah it's the best. like right now, saturday night live is like a toddler, and you have to praise them when they do something good. you're like good job, lauren, you hired adam sandler, just be funny. just be funny. it was so nice to have balance. no one is afraid of people making fun of trump as long as you make the other side too, although with the amount that that shows a democratic propaganda machine it would have been great if sandler was like make america great again ♪. pete: well it took adam sandler to make saturday night live great again. one evening. i've got to ask you, politicians , not often funny sometimes they try and -- ed: accidentally funny. pete: they like to use props. here is steve cohen calling attorney general barr a chicken. watch. >> chicken barr should have shown up today and answered questions. he was afraid of nora mycin, an attorney general picked for his abilities would not be fearful of any other attorneys questioning him for 30 minutes. ed: he can't even pronounce cabbies you men. >> he knows the bit is failing and he's just shaking because he's dying on stage. what a horrible little prop act. like first of all isn't this guy from tennessee? shouldn't he have picked a product made in tennessee like jack daniels or something or like bill barr is drunk on power something like that? ed: [laughter] you're right. >> this whole fried chicken stunt was horrible. it's the perfect embodiment of a democrat policy. i guarantee the taxpayers paid for that chicken and then the government gets to eat it and then it didn't work. it was a failure. and right now they're like but we need more money for more chicken. we should try it again let's raise your taxes for more chickens. jedediah: we got another one for you from hillary clinton who never disappoints. here she is saying that she's living rent-free in trump's brain take a listen. >> i'm living rent-free inside of donald trump's brain and it's not a very nice place to be i can tell you that. jedediah: [laughter] pete: how long did she practice that line? >> [laughter] i'm telling you like what intern came up with that not thinking like how bad it's going to back fire. hillary you wish you were living in trump's brain because my man is in the white house and you're not. you could look around for one more time. she's living in the woods. she's living in a box of chardonay. she's living in a fantasy land with big chairs and strange moo- moo's i don't know what that chick is thinking. i like how her story keeps changing. first it's like trump isn't going to accept the election and then it's like oh, russia colluded and now she's saying it's stolen from me. she's on the road with bill just she's losing grips with reality. ed: you could get those tickets for $2. you should go! it's right in your backyard. >> i know and i like how they have her and bill like way far away from each other on the stage. there's some place she's not living. she's a little angry with me i'll tell you what. >> [laughter] ed: i think we got to leave it there. pete: now we'll list you michael in the future. you've earned it. >> do you know what? listen i'm going on the road. the loftus party live and pete hegseth and all of you i'll put together a show in manhattan and you're all coming out. ed: your accumen is fantastic. >> we'll raise money for charity, it'll be beautiful. pete: i guarantee it i'll be there. 100%. ed: this is like hippity hop horses, ed henry is going to win pete: oh, man, thanks michael. jedediah: thanks so much. well a jobs well done for the trump economy as unemployment hits a 49-year low. pete: anthony scaramucci the mooch here live on the big economic win. come on in. ed: how are you? >> ♪ we'll wake up all the neighbors ♪ >> there is an objection that has been posted on the board. >> after the objection, country house wins the kentucky derby. ed: yes, country house declared the official winner of the 104th kentucky derby after maximum security, the horse who actually finished first, was disqualified , for race interference. pete: let's check back in with janice dean live from churchill downs. janice the latest on the controversy? reporter: yeah, house upset. it's all over. the courier journal here this morning in louisville let's talk history. i've got chris goodlet here the museum curator for the kentucky derby museum. first of all your museum is spectacular. >> thank you. reporter: tell us what happened? >> well for the first time in history we had the winner of the kentucky derby disqualified for interference. maximum security was deemed by our officials to have interfered with four horses so he had to be placed behind all four of those horses. the last one finished 16th so maximum security was placed 17th and country house was deemed the winner of the kentucky derby. reporter: what happened who bumped who? >> well maximum security bumped a horse named war of will and it was a cane reaction and other horses became involved. reporter: wow historically where does this go? well it's going to be a famous first since it never happened it's something we'll always be talking about because it's the first time that it happened. we've had some disqualification reviews before, but never resulted in a winner actually being taken down. reporter: you were in the winner 's circle with the owner. tell us what was it like? >> well it was a very interesting moment. they were excited but then they were watching everything transpire over those 21 minutes and of course we're a little stunned but what i found really interesting about it, i found out just this morning that the owners of maximum security gary and mary west even after all of that were still very gracious and just kind of saying that's horseracing that happens they've been in this industry about 40 years and understand those things do occur. reporter: and we're talking about it. >> right so that makes it very important and again, something that we'll be talking about in the museum. we've had instances previously, one of the earliest ones 1933 we had a horse named broker's tip and a horse named head play, and don meade broker's tip and they were coming down the stretch and kind of fighting with each other , became known as the fighting finish, and so there was an objection, but no number was taken down and broker's tip won the derby. reporter: we can learn about that at the museum. what an amazing day this will go down in history maybe not what people wanted but we'll still remember maximum security as being a very strong horse with a strong finish and well an interesting end. all right back to you guys. ed: here we were talking about hats and bourbon and we got a pretty interesting race as well janice thanks for all that. who better to comment on this than an than anthony scaramucci a man whose never stayed in his lane. >> every lane is my lane. ed: that's good though. >> i felt like i was falling in here good morning everybody. jedediah: i love your new book title trump the blue collar president. ed: it makes the liberals crazy. jedediah: i think that's actually going to drive joe biden out of his mind. >> if you've ever seen trump support up on fifth avenue he looks like lewis the 14th smoked crystal meth and decorated the apartment have you ever seen it? it's unbelievable but he captured the blue collar people he will do it again and look at the job numbers and the depth of the job numbers in lower and middle income areas so if you study this stuff which i have over the last 30 years the thing that you learn in the labor economics is three things. you don't get this tight of a labor market without inflation. we have this tight of a labor market without inflation and second thing pete and i were talking about at the break it's very very hard to get the number s even better than this because there is always a little bit of friction in the marketplace so it's kudos to the president and his economic team because at the end of the day policies actually really matter. they have deployed some of the best policies in the history of america and what steve moore said consistently is you can get the full employment and aggressive growth without lots of inflation so that's a theory that the president understands that and thank god he won. i know i saw you guys seeing hillary clinton bellyaching stuff i was sitting there saying prayers on a sunday morning thank you that president trump won because look at the economy now as a result of his policies. pete: i'm going to try to continue the horseracing now, they lodged a complaint and from the complaint the election results were changed, so like the last two years were a big complaint from the democrats because trump went into their lane, but they didn't change, because he's still the president >> but they couldn't find a way to beat him so they had to start negative stories about why he won so now two and a half years of that you went from mueller time to the barr-be-que. they couldn't beat him, made up a story and now it's false and secretary clinton is upset she thinks it got taken from her from director comey but that's really not true. she didn't do all of the campaign rallies or inspire people the way he did and remember she didn't go to wisconsin one-time, once or twice. the president was out there hustling and doing the same thing. ed: so there was a cnn poll a couple of days ago a 56% approval in terms of the jobs in the economy and now a cnn poll saying 69% of americans think congress should investigate the origins of this justice department inquiry into russian meddling it seems like the idea of investigating the investigators is catching on. >> what i said on the show friday night that if the inspector general and the fbi says the following people did the following wrong things they have to get prosecuted. if people don't like that, that's a little bit too bad but i want the president to focus on winning, i'm not tired of winning. i want him to stick to the policies. i want him to continue on course what he's trying to do is take the anxiety out of the system economically but also from a national security perspective. i like the fact he's talking to president putin. why not? i think it's a very very good strategy for america so the combination of things he's doing that are offensive i want him to stay doing that . the defensive maneuver to go after the investigators let somebody else focus on that we need the president's time and energy on all of the good things he's capable of doing. jedediah: with joe biden running though i think that investigate the investigators point becomes stronger because now he's tied to that administration and people have questions for him as to what did you know what did president obama know what was going on that justified this investigation. >> when the time is right and he goes into the president's cross-hairs, it's going to be a rough time for vice president biden. jedediah: but a great debate. popcorn would be -- >> it'll be fun. ed: you guys remember the president, this guy can take you right off the playing field in ways that you can't even expect. pete: anthony scaramucci thanks for being here. jedediah: turning to headline headlines the search continues for two missing workers as two others are confirmed dead in a devastating explosion at an illinois factory. three people are still in the hospital following the blast at a chemical plant near chicago. crews will be on scene to investigate what caused the explosion. damage is estimated at $1 million. and health officials board a cruise ship quarantined because of a measles scare. the ship owned and operated by the church of scientology is back at its home port in curasao only the passengers who were vaccinated or previously had the disease can leave. health officials will vaccination sin ate the others so far there's only one confirm ed case. there are about 300 people on board. and today is sing o demayo and while many americans plan to celebrate a new poll shows many don't know what they're celebrating. so the survey finds only 22% know that it marks the mexican army's victory over the french in 1862 and one in four people said they have plans for the holidays. i celebrated because any excuse to eat tacos for me, i'm there. i don't care what it is. pete: that's true i agree but beating the french? no i'm just kidding. jedediah: that is all pete. pete: just kidding. rick: margaritas, i appreciate your tacos. jedediah: i will and call it a day. rick: all right guys a really rough day out here just over to my side there is the bike race or tour going on, take a look at that, not a nice day for this, everybody has some sort of rain gear on, really rough one out here. it's not going to change we pretty much have a washout of your entire day today with a lot of rain that falls take a quick look at the map to show you what this radar looks like a little bit of rain moving in across parts of north florida we'll see that get out of here. it's not going to last too long that florida rain but what will is this mid atlantic and north east rain kind of gets out of here say by about 5-6:00 tonight , and then overnight tonight, sets our stage for a much better day tomorrow. just do want to show you this week a big setup again for a lot of rain across the central part of the country, where we saw incredible flooding the past week and unfortunately i think we'll see that continue. back to you inside. jedediah: thanks, rick. ed: pro-life celebration in the heart of new york city thousands gathering to send a message directly to andrew cuomo for the abortion law. jedediah: you'll hear from people at that rally, coming up next. at carvana, we have only one standard when it comes to the quality of our cars: the highest. it's why only 1 in 10 cars we look at qualify to sell on our site. if it's been in a reported accident, we won't sell it. and at our state-of-the-art facilities our ase certified mechanics roll up their sleeves and get to it. inspecting, dialing-in, and fine tuning every single car inside and out, bringing all of it up to our high standards. by the time we're done, our cars are beyond "certified." they're carvana certified. so whether you have it delivered or pick it up, we do it all so you can rest easy. 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the best possible argument for life. especially to hear the heartbeat i just started crying, seeing ultrasound image of my first daughter probably saved her life >> do you think that ultrasound in an event like this could change public opinion? >> i pray to god that it does. i think it can. >> at least some of them had to stop and think why do we think that this is okay? >> i do believe some people will be changed and i think the other people won't be. >> and our state representative about abortion -- >> some kids are unwanted so you kill them now or kill them later. >> i am speechless to that representative. >> killing is not the answer but the answer is to correct the things that are tough for the community in alabama. >> he showed world the ugliness of his thoughts. i would say to him, um, i pray for you. >> do you have a message for governor cuomo? >> look at a sonogram and ask the question what am i looking at? it's alive and the weeks and months before he's born and even the day of conception. >> my mother scheduled to abort me and she walked out of her appointment. my life is valuable. the life of the baby that we just heard the heartbeat is valuable, all lives are valuable make a better decision for new york. they deserve better. pete: wow. jedediah: powerful stuff in fact i spoke with abbey johnson a former planned importanthood clinic director turned pro-life activist and an abortion survivor and they talked to me about why this ultrasound was important. >> it's hard to deny the humanity in the womb when you can see that heart beating and that little face, when you can see that baby in the womb you can't say it's anything else other than a human child. >> to stand up there as an abortion survivor and there were two other survivors with me , and show the world and show new york city that we do have names and we have faces and we have stories and we grew up to be somebody and that this does happen and it effects people just like me and just like you. pete: i've seen a live 4 d ultrasound and you're seeing a little baby all the way around. it's not just that grainy black and white. it is flesh. jedediah: and the story is absolutely amazing. we talked to her and she survived an abortion. pete: really cool right just a block away from here. jedediah: absolutely. there are five democratic women running for president but all struggling with the key voting block female voters. pete: rachel campos-duffy weighs in on that coming up next. jedediah: there are five democratic women running against president trump in the race for 2020 but if you look at first quarter campaign contributions, they aren't getting all the support from their fellow female s. president trump takes a top spot with just over $1.4 million raised from women donors. joining me now with her take is fox news contributor rachel campos-duffy. welcome always a pleasure to have you here. reporter: thank you so much, happy sunday. jedediah: i want to take a look at these numbers, kamala harris, $3 million, and then klobuchar at about 1.5 million and then president trump a little over 1.4 million, followed by kirsten gillibrand followed by elizabeth warren and my question how is now why president trump why has he served so much he did win in 2016 but what has changed? reporter: well there's a lot of female rural voters that love donald trump i'll tell you that. we've won over the blue collar women at the working class women that used to belong to the democrats but that said it's nor than that jedediah. these are usually your first time stepping into a race is when you raise the most money. donald trump has been raising money for women for the past two years so these numbers are really strong. i will say when you look at the numbers that it shows that democrat women really do want a female candidate these five female candidates received more donations from women than the 11 male candidates in the race so that tells you there's real energy behind the democrat women wanting to have a female candidate and that's not always the best way of deciding whose going to be your nominee. i could tell you jedediah my husband's own race, the primary voter in his congressional race in the americans was a female but there was an energy in the democrat party to get women candidates on the ticket. jedediah: the democratic establishment keeps talking about joe biden and joe biden and i keep saying don't underestimate kamala harris when we have these hearings for example, whether it's barr or kavanaugh she has a moment to shine. she's very tough. she's very smart and i think a lot of women out there say put her at the forefront because joe biden has a lot of baggage that she doesn't necessarily have. reporter: absolutely you can see from these numbers the females in the democrat base believe that kamala harris is probably their best bet and i think you're right, jedediah. it's a good bet. she's a great contrast, she's tough, but here is the problem for democrats no matter who they nominate and that is they will all run into the buzz saw of this remarkable record breaking history-making economy and when you think about women, and what they really care about, it's not just their paychecks. it's the paychecks and the financial independence of their children, so under the obama administration, a lot of kids were living in their mommies basement. right now, if your kids living in your basement there's a problem because there are lots of jobs out there. when kids can't pay their student loans moms and dads have to step in and help out usually, so this is really, this economy is great news for moms, and dads , and that's going to be the biggest problem that democrats have because you can't deny the numbers. jedediah: thanks so much rachel always appreciate your input and we'll check it out. i'm curious to see if kamala harris holds tight on the female numbers. reporter: it's a fun race to watch thanks jedediah. jedediah: this video is 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the definitive final call and she's declared me the winner. jedediah: i think we need a redo actually. because that angle of ed, i don't know and then you face planted and we didn't capture which was actually one of the best. ed: head start or no head start you face planted look at the right of the screen. that's key. jedediah: oh! ed: pete goes down and that is why -- jedediah: i think we need a re match. ed: there's no dispute here. we will go live to churchill downs and to janice dean. the real winner is derrick utley , i don't know him, he's a donald trump fan he says on twitter there are more democrats running in 2020 than there were horses yesterday in the kentucky derby. we checked and he's right. fact checked it. pete: that's true. and -- ed: they are jockeying for a position and there are more democrats running. pete: a lot of them are running in each other's lanes you might say, kicking each other. jedediah: i said we'll need a two-tier stage and we might need a three-tier stage. pete: who would win in a running race of these presidential candidates? ed: bernie said that he ran in high school as young man he's still in great shape and ready to do it. bernie versus biden. jedediah: and kirsten gillibrand is always lifting weights remember? i would say to see that. can we watch that instead of the debates actually? i'd be down. ed: so nancy pelosi speaker of the house obviously seems to be sending a message to the 2020 democrats several on one hand she says look don't go too far to the left good luck with that so they seem to be there but she is also firing a shot at the president by suggesting he will not accept the election results and this is pretty rich since her party hasn't accepted the results from 2016 basically. pete: yeah that's right this is what nancy pelosi said, if we win by 1,000 votes each he's not going to respect the election. he would poison the public mind and challenge each of the races and say that you can't seek these people, he had to win. imagine if he hadn't won oh, don't even imagine so as we go forward we have to have the same approach but he did win, of course, and i think she's basically admitting i don't know if we can win or will win this is going to be close. jedediah: you started off by saying that nancy pelosi is telling democrats don't go too far left. that's where we are people. nancy pelosi? ed: you're rightist ironic. jedediah: who knew. pete: well a non-voice, representative al green has been calling for impeachment for a long time but he made a statement recently that caught our eye. watch. >> i'm concerned that if we don't impeach this president he will get re-elected. if we don't impeach him he will say he has been vindicated, he will say the democrats had an overwhelming majority in the house and they didn't take-up the impeachment. we must impeach this president, if we don't, it's not the soul of the nation that will be at risk only. it is the soul of the congress that's at risk. ed: hats off to al green whether you like him or dislike him he is speaking truth there. pete: i love him. ed: that's what the left wing of his party thinks which is that the president is basically vindicated by the mueller report and if the democrats don't trish regan to impeach him, he's admitting he's likely to get re- elected and that's what the democrats are saying. jedediah: you're telling donald trump we're afraid of you not necessarily you but of your success afraid of these economic numbers and these accomplishments because we can't fight you on policy so now we have to try to impeach you because we're afraid of that battle at the battle box wherever if we lose it that's a huge admission trump saying do you know what? pete: the minute you think you understand this presidential race is the minute you should just stop and keep watching. really because remember where it was at this time four years ago and the rep can side tons of candidates, people no longer in the race, we just don't know everyone knows joe biden's name so they kind of assume, but he hasn't had as good of a rollout as people think he's going to have gasps we shall see. ed: well the president was on twitter all week going after joe biden who may be the democratic front runner now and also in recent months been going after saturday night live for being an anti-trump mostly. last night adam sandler hats off comes on as a former cast member and they made fun of the 2020 democrats, but also interesting, he turned it around on himself and his colleagues at snl, instead of making the a trump bash fest. watch. >> i was fired, so sad to tell ♪ well i never saw it coming, i got fired from snl♪, i guess nbc had enough of crazy spoon head, and the songs i sang on the news , maybe they were sick of canteen boy, but i think they just hate the jews ♪ nbc said that i was done, and then i made over $4 billion at the box office [laughter] so i guess you could say i won ♪ >> [laughter] pete: i forgotten he was fired by nbc. ed: the billion had a b. jedediah: it's a great story i find when people are fired and they go on to be super successful and they joke about it. one other thing he did and you mentioned this, you referenced it ed was that he returned as opera man and he kind of dished on the 2020 race. check it out. >> ♪ ♪ [applause] pete: it's almost like one weekend adam sandler made saturday night live great again. ed: he's not my favorite comedian. michael loftus is. i would have answered. false praise. jedediah: starting to notice that. pete: we had him on the program and he had a great take on this. listen. >> it was hilarious. sandler was bringing the heat. saturday night live is like a toddler and you have to praise them when they do something good it was so nice to have balance. no one is afraid of people making fun of trump as long as you're making fun of the other side too. although, with the amount that that shows now a democratic propaganda machine, it would have been great if sandler would have been like ♪ make america great again ♪. pete: there's so much material on the democrat side going into this, they better not miss the opportunity to have it. jedediah: i like when comedians make fun of everyone like equal opportunity humor no one should be exempt from good comedy. we'll turn to headlines for you in this 9:00 a.m. hour, and a fox news alert, police in north carolina are expected to hold a news conference this afternoon after an officer is shot and killed during a traffic stop. canine officer jordan harris sheldon was on the moorsville police force who're six years. officers tracked down the suspected gunman to an apartment and found him dead inside from an apparent self-inflicted gun shot wound and he is the 15th officer shot and killed in the line of duty this year. and the flight data recorder from the boeing 737 that slid into a river in florida has been recovered and it is on its way to ntsb headquarters in washington d.c. the flight carrying 143 people out of guantanamo bay was landing during thunderstorms and no one was seriously hurt, but very sadly, three pets on board are presumed dead and ntsb officials say the plane has no history of accidents. right now, 2020 hopeful joe biden is attending mass in south korea as he campaigns across the state. these are live pictures inside the church. the former vice president is hoping to build support among black voters and fellow 2020 candidate pete buttigieg is also in south carolina on a two day campaign stop hosting a town hall in north charleston tonight a couple could barely believe their eyes when they spotted a black bear lounging in their hot tub. the bear, you know, just taking a dip, while playing with two other cubs outside a tennessee cabin. the woman who took the photos said she had been sitting in that spot hours earlier and the bears eventually left only to return hours later to play some more. i would like to announce i would like a baby cub and that is my goal. ed: i like that you find that cute. jedediah: it's adorable. ed: it would maul you. jedediah: not a little cub, i disagree. pete: we can try that. ed: bring the bears in. jedediah: i'll take a bear. pete: polar bears are even more dangerous. they don't like people. ed: meanwhile there's a video that caught our eye. pete: yeah, if i had my way and i have no power we'd cover this every hour. this is a huge story the muslim america islamic center in philadelphia, a video emerged of kids listen to what they were saying, listen. >> ♪ ♪ >> [speaking in a foreign language] pete: now, someone thought it was a good idea for the kids to say that someone taught them that, someone directed it and someone filmed it and someone put it online and it makes you believe the muslim americal society. ed: this is in america. pete: this is in philadelphia of the usa. the muslim america society runs about 50 schools like this and they have affiliation with the muslim brother hood like this strikes me as a bit of a problem jedediah: they issued a statement saying not all songs were properly vetted. this was an unintended mistake and an oversight in which the center and the students are remorseful and they will conduct an internal investigation to ensure this does not occur again ed: not properly vetted they say well, a muslim scholar, said this video is no mistake and it's a terrible slur on innocent american muslims, watch. >> this is out of the islamic playbook. this is pure muslim brotherhood, of apparently american youth here in pennsylvania. parents must have given permission, the children certainly didn't look remorseful and this is a terrible slur on innocent american muslims, so it's horrifying plus they have more than 50 chapters where else is this happening? pete: 50 chapters in america? ed: in america. and dr. bill bennett of course former u.s. education secretary fox news contributor is on this program in just a few moments talking a little bit more. pete: i really want know his take. this is in his school in america , chop off heads? how in the world is that allowed jedediah: having worked in the school i have to tell you i find it really hard to believe that no parents saw that ahead of time that was the first time they saw it, it seems really odd to me. pete: unless they are empathetic with a certain viewpoint similar to that. we don't know we'll find out more because this story is baffling and scary. joe biden says he won't insult president trump by calling him names. see what happens next, biden started calling him names, the latest twist in their feud, coming up. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist. you can barely feel. whoooo. did you know the exact same hotel room... ...can have many different prices? that's why tripadvisor searches 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transition is now. no more starvation. no more children without medicine. no more repression. pete: ellison barber is live along the colombia venezuela border with a closer look at the crisis. good morning. reporter: good morning, to you guys. yeah it sounds you hear people saying there are children without medicine and it's hard to believe but here on the border in colombia we have met many venezuelans who have crossed over here because they say that is exactly what their life is like. they say not only do they not have medicine for their children they also say they don't have food for their children back in venezuela. this right here is where a lot of venezuelan migrants are showing their passports and also a buzz pass to get into their red cross area. we seen a lot of people here in the last day or so getting medical treatment and then also just sleeping in and around this area. i met a family who was underneath that tented area yesterday. they told me that they were here with their three-year-old. they left because they could not feed him. they have not been able to give him a full meal in months they felt they had no choice but to come here and they had been sleeping on the sidewalk for two days. right over here there was an ambulance and we met a mother who was crying, distraught with her 12-year-old son. we just spoke to this woman, she is venezuelan and here with her son and he's right here he's 12 years old he's getting some treatment and she showed us his paper and forms that shows he is diabetic and he's not had insulin or any medicine to treat his diabetes in two weeks. >> i need to stabilize my son. the red cross is telling me to take my son to the hospital, to walk him there but i can't take him there this way. his sugar is high right now. he suffers from diabetes. i'm just asking them to at least take me to the hospital. reporter: so they ended up taking that mother and her son to the hospital so she could get him some insulin, some help this is another area where a lot of venezuelan migrants have been sleeping out on the streets. colombian officials say at least 25,000 venezuelans crossed into their country every single day. some people come temporarily, they have a pass, a humanitarian pass where colombians have agreed to let them come here to get food and medicine. you can see some people coming out and this woman in the wheelchair. we see a lot of people who come in who appear sick and elderly and who are here for medicine. one woman you met said she comes every month to try and get her mother the insulin she needs because she's diabetic. other people head back with these massive bags filled with supplies. food, water other things they can't get. they then carry it on their backs walking all the way up the bridge. it is a difficult journeyman it people say they walk, miles and miles to get here. miles and miles to get back home , often with elderly parents and wheelchairs, young children who they are carrying in addition to all those bags of stuff. now on the other side of the bridge is an area that's known in english as the trenches. yesterday, we went to one, we've been to them three different times and one known that is an area where people are illegally crossing into colombia. they have to pay off this gang- like malitia in order to be able to come in. most of their money. they then go through an incredibly difficult path. all of it is in the woods. it is dirt. there are massive amounts of rocks to try and get across not only is it difficult but it's also dangerous. they make this journey every day and for now it seems like there's no signs that these people will stop. it seems like from what we're hearing from everyone here they feel like they will not have any hope in venezuela in the near future. back to you guys. ed: ellison barber doing an outstanding job for us on the ground and great job bringing the human aspect of this. meanwhile it's the finish everyone was talking about this morning the 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jedediah: it's the controversial finish everyone is talking about this morning the 145th kentucky derby, is one for the history book. >> the upset! >> there is an objection that has been posted on the board. >> after the objection, country house wins the kentucky derby. pete: in a historic finish country house officially named the winner after maximum security the horse who actually finished first was disqualified for race interference. ed: well president trump just weigh in tweeted the kentucky derby decision was not a good one it was a rough and tumble race on a wet and sloppy track actually a beautiful thing to watch only in these days a political correctness could such an overturn occur. the best horse did not win the kentucky derby not even close. jedediah: oh, wow. well done. ed: let's check in with our own janice dean she is live at churchill downs how about that? [laughter] reporter: oh, my, the pressure is on. i know that i lost my bets yesterday but i'll bring someone on who won big, and that is pete rotendo. i've known him for a long long time, vp of bead breeder's cup. so you won a lot of money. >> yeah, i won a lot yesterday. reporter: how does that work? >> well simple i have $100 betting strategy, and if you took that hundred and bet it you win 15,000. so it was like an all night affair. reporter: so president trump should watch this and say because you won big it's kind of a good thing? >> exactly of course i'm re investing in the economy. reporter: so tell us what happened yesterday? >> yesterday so maximum security went right to the lead, ran an amazing race but on the turn he came out and knocked off war of will number one off stride and that horse looked like he could run a huge race. you just can't do that. you have to be disqualified. it feels unfair but it's the right call. reporter: so where do we, how much did you make for your friends? >> well anywhere from 15,000 to 150,000 that's what i'm seeing across so many text messages, and i do feel bad for the people who bet maximum security. he ran a winning race, but some things happen. it's like in football when, you know, a penalty sometimes you go to the replay and this is what happens. reporter: but you like the call because you made money on it? >> well i don't into that i like the call. it was the right call and we would have actually, it would have stayed up anyway so either way it was okay for me but it was the right call and i feel bad for the people who bet the horse but what are you supposed to do some types times it happens. reporter: how much was put on maximum security? >> i believe 6 million was bet on him to win versus the half a million at the country house but remember the track takes their cut and the money goes back to the winners so the winners there is always winners here. reporter: country house, great horse, with a great organization behind it. >> oh, home for the troops, home for our heros. they respond to this weekend, they brought them out, we spent the whole weekend with them entertaining them and then their horse wins and it was like they were so happy. it made the whole, we were party ing all night. reporter: that is the good part of the story, i think because pete won this is a good news story. i know a lot of people were upset but there is good in this story. >> oh, yeah there was good and listen maximum security will be back in the preakness i'm sure, country house will have a re match and war of will will be back too. reporter: can you give me my money back? >> of course i've got enough to pay off everybody. ed: well thanks janice. thanks for all of the hard work. congrats. just to be clear though that pete won. pete: no, no. he said pete won. ed: literally he jumped off the couch. jedediah: i think we should poll the audience and they should decide who won that. roll the tape slowly. pete: a twitter poll. ed: [laughter] pete hegseth was wrong. jedediah: for the win. pete: never know! fox & friends in the morning the unemployment rate is at a 49- year low, but bernie sanders says that may be a bad thing. >> unemployment is down. i want you to think, does that mean that the economy is booming for ordinary people? >> no! >> okay you got to think about that. jedediah: one of my favorite analysts maria bartiromo is here to react, coming up next. drivers just wont put their phones down. we need a solution. introducing... smartdogs. the first dogs trained to train humans. stopping drivers from: liking. selfie-ing. and whatever this is. available to the public... never. smartdogs are not the answer. but geico has a simple tip. turn on "do not disturb while driving" mode. brought to you by geico. ♪ why you have to go make things so complicated ♪ ed: the shot of the morning. only the most important thing. pete: apparently the internet this is a couple years old but its been revived by the internet , is that shoe teal and grey or pink and white? yesterday can i just say something? now it looks pink to me. ed: boom! pete: conversion that is pink and white. ed thinks he sees teal. ed: i see teal and we have viewers weighing in in and also a very important expert. e-mail from jim: pete i always pull for you except for today i see teal. jedediah: an e-mail from wendy the shoes are pink and white. you can't feel it any other way just like the economy is booming pete: nice eye. dennis says is jedediah wearing a pink dress? the sneakers match her dress. jedediah: see, i was saying the color of my dress and what is interesting because now i feel tricked and betrayed because i saw teal and now i see pink. ed: we'll settle this one of the smartest people in the world and maria what do you see? maria: i've got to tell you, i see teal. ed: what! maria: teal and grey. pete: look at the blue on the side of fox & friends? maria: that's just a different blue. i'm talking about tones. it's a blue tone. ed: listen up. she's smart. maria: [laughter] pete: i surrender. ed: even smarter on the economy. this jobs report on friday it doesn't take someone with the ac cumen of yourself to realize this is big. maria: gangbusters much better-than-expected talking about the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years things are really on fire here and now we're just a couple months away from the longest expansion in history and what i like about this expansion is it's not just job creation and you're seeing job creation in a number of industries by the way but you're seeing wages move higher but not in a way to trigger inflation, which of course would move the federal reserve to move on interest rates, so you've got low inflation, and yet wages are up 3.25% year-over-year this is the first time americans have seen a pay increase in a decade, so it's very good. jedediah: bernie sanders coming in saying hold on a second it's not that good. take a listen. >> unemployment is down. i want you to think, does that mean that the economy is booming for ordinary people? >> no! >> okay got to think about that jedediah: so if he is living on earth or where is that coming from? maria: it's funny to hear him talk about it he's so gloom and doom. unemployment is down. i mean, it's just crazy. you would think that you'd want to be celebrating this kind of an environment. i think the democrats are looking at the current economic back drop saying we've got to get another plan. i mean, it can't just be take trump down when you've got numbers like this, because everybody is feeling it. look at the asian unemployment number, lowest on record, hispanic, lowest in decades, black. i mean the whole nine yards every category is seeing real job creation, and you've got a situation where people are afraid of technology getting into their lives in terms of replacing them taking over jobs with artificial intelligence, and machine learning, and people were worried and yet we're see ing job creation across-the-board in all of these new areas so it's very positive and obviously the back drop keeps an going. it has to do directly with the policies we've seen come out of this administration. you can't say not only lower taxes but the deregulation was a big deal and that's why businesses without the neuce around their necks in terms of higher regulation, they're putting money to work in terms of job creation. pete: democrats trying to figure out how to talk about the economy and also figure out what to do as it pertains to the next page of the mueller russia investigation. you've been all over investigat ing the investigators, where should they go? you've got a great show on that today too. maria: we do and thank you so much for that pete because we are really going now to probable cause, and the predicate, what the fbi told us that the reason that they launched the investigation into donald trump was because of george papadopoulos. we're going right to him. devon nunes is coming up, he of course sent a letter to major agencies on friday. he wants more information about certain spies that were involved in this. he wants answers in a week, so we'll talk to him about the breaking news got representative jim jordan as welcoming out in the house judiciary committee to talk about the circus bill barr last week but importantly wait until you hear the scope of this strategy to take down donald trump from george papadopoulos. it's incredible how global it went, and really, how they tried to lure him and entrap him from the very beginnings, as they wanted to come up with this conspiracy that donald trump colluded with the russians. george papadopoulos coming on and then i've got former ag, michael mukasey will talk about bill barr because there's nothing else for them to do. they can't go anywhere so now their answers are let's rip bill barr and honest broker in all of this. ed: maria top of the hour. pete: thanks for being here. maria: thank you. jedediah: we've got headlines for you, a choir puts on a powerful performance hours after their bus was involved in a deadly crash. >> ♪ ♪ jedediah: a tour bus carrying the california choir collided with an suv in california and the driver of the vehicle died. all 18 students and two staff members were able to escape the bus before it erupted in flames. and the credit card belonging to an american killed in mexico six months ago resurfaces in the u.s.. police releasing new images this week saying this manussed the card at an atm in oklahoma city and investigators are looking for the man and the woman seen with him. taylor meyer from california was killed while vacationing in mexico in november. and beto o'rourke has the potential job offer for failed georgia gubernatorial candidate stacey abrams. the 2020 candidate telling supporters at a texas town hall he would put abrams in charge of combating voter suppression should he become president. abrams cited voting irregularities when she narrowly lost the race for governor. president trump will give the commander-in-chief trophy to the army football team tomorrow. the black knights earning it in back to back seasons for the first time after beating navy and air force last year. it comes the same day the president honors tiger woods at the white house for his fifth master's win. pete: wow. ed: a big day at the white house jedediah: for sure. ed: rick? rick: yeah it's a little bit better now, it's not going to stay better for much longer though. pete: i like how you change your umbrella colors throughout the show. good touch. rick: yeah i know it's because i left one in the other part already so i had to grab another one there you go guys take a look at the weather map and show you what's going on we've got a lot of rain across a lot of the country this week especially right in the central part of the country. we have record breaking flooding going on across parts of the mississippi river and we have more rain unfortunately going across that same area this week i think we're talking about more significant flooding, just be prepared, know that it's coming your way. today across the mid atlantic the northeast picture city we'll put the map in motion you'll see the rain is with us for much of the day it's out of here by the overnight hours tonight and tomorrow, sets up for much nicer day. the southeast you're not looking bad you'll see showers across central florida some will be a little bit heavy but it's not a complete washout of your day and northern plains another little system dips through and you'll see that pink that is a little bit of snow and some freezing rain across parts of south dakota, so still have chilly air in place and finally out across the west things looking pretty good a little bit of rain across southern california, guys back to you inside. ed: rick your umbrella looks teal to me. jedediah: very fashion forward i might add. rick: it's not it's orange. ed: the former vice president joe biden says he will not insult president trump by calling him names, so what happened next? why would he start name calling right after he said he wanted to unify the country. jedediah: the new twist in the growing debate, coming up next. ♪ another one bites the dust we're finally back out in our yard, but so are they. scotts turf builder triple action. it kills weeds, prevents crabgrass and feeds so grass can thrive, guaranteed. our backyard is back. this is a scotts yard. i got it! what? what? l.a. bookers book apartments and vacation homes as easy as hotels. ridin' scooter! l.a. baby! l.a. baby! be a booker you're welcome. at booking.com president trump: sleepy joe biden we call him 1% joe, obama came along and took him off of the trash heap and made him vice president. biden, he said i'd like to take him behind the gym. i dream of that. do you know what you do with biden? you go like this and he'd fall over. i'd be very happy if it were biden. >> happy why? president trump: i am a young, vibrant man. i look at joe, i don't know about him. jedediah: [laughter] pete: some of the hits right there. ed: and he's referring to the preview. that whole bit in nevada he was talking about how joe biden has said i need him, this is months ago, i'd meet him outback the school yard kind of thing and remember joe biden walked back and said i shouldn't have done that i want to unify the country and fast forward now he launches the campaign saying i want to unify the country, and then he goes to south korea yesterday, and digs a deeper hole. jedediah: he sure did this is what joe biden said about president trump. "so many nicknames i want to give this guy. start with clown the only place he has confidence is in the mud" so this is why it's such a great match because trump doesn't pull punches when it comes to stuff like that that's what a lot of people feel they love about him, he's not censored he's just telling you how he actually feels and feels the very same way about joe biden so basically if those are the two guys grab your popcorn people i know i will. pete: i think you're right but i just don't think joe biden is as good at it. and he said oh, i won't give names and he gives him a name and plays well in the mud like joe will make off hand statements but he's not as the vitality of the president, like the energy that he has, and the relentlessness with which he works and defines and markets, whose going to have a problem with that and try to compete because then he looks like a wimp if he doesn't and overplays his hand, it's going to be -- jedediah: he also has to cater to the left though. folks on the right line that donald trump is out there he's saying what he feels is unfilter ed. ed: go back to romney, obama and that debate in benghazi where he floundered and gave in, they want someone who can fight. pete: i really think that's a great point because if trump says something politically incorrect joe biden rather than upping the ante says oh, man. jedediah: take the high road. ed: so unfortunate you'd use that. jedediah: that's not his instinct but he has to juggle it is it joe biden? pete: no its not. ed: how many polls do we do where they say i wish they'd talk more about the issues and then as you say they want the popcorn. jedediah: i want the popcorn on the issues i like my issues coupled with some pretty good entertainment you can have the best of both world's it's possible. we bring it all the time. pete: thanks for staying with us this morning so on another subject this 1948 john deere tractor is hitting the road driving across the country to honor our hero. ed: what a great thing to do and it's making a stop on the fox square. you'll meet the former behind the wheel, next. my body is truly powerful. i have the power to lower my blood sugar and a1c. because i can still make my own insulin. and trulicity activates my body to release it like it's supposed to. trulicity is for people with type 2 diabetes. it's not insulin. i take it once a week. it starts acting in my body from the first dose. trulicity isn't for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take trulicity if you're allergic to it, you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have an allergic reaction, a lump or swelling in your neck, or severe stomach pain. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low blood sugar risk. side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, belly pain and decreased appetite, which lead to dehydration and may worsen kidney problems. i have it within me to lower my a1c. ask your doctor about trulicity. (vo) ♪ i know what you're thinking. electric, it's not for you. and, you're probably right. electric just doesn't have enough range. it will never survive the winter. charging stations? good luck finding one of those. so, maybe an electric car isn't for you after all. or, is it? ♪ jedediah: welcome back quick headlines on what's happening this week. michael cohen reports to prison tomorrow. president trump's former personal attorney is sentenced to three years for campaign finance violations, tax evasion fraud, and lying to congress, and embattled r& b start r. kelly is expected back in court tuesday charged with 10 counts of criminal sexual abuse in chicago and on wednesday president trump is holding a make america great general it in panama city beach, florida and the president will visit parts of the state devastated by hurricane michael last october. over to you guys. pete: well over the next few months you may see this inspir ing site on the roads and highways in america. ed: a retired farmer pledging to drive his modified 1948 john deere all across this great country while teaming up with operation second chance to give back to our nations heros. pete: here with more, retired farmer ivan stoltsvis, founder of across america for wounded heros, and author of dream to reality, as well as cindy mcgrue , founder and ceo of operation second chance. thank you both for being here. >> great to be here. pete: ivan let me start with you so where do you get this idea from? >> well my father, he would be over 100 if he was living yet but when he was 26 he went across america, and i was always very intrigued by his stories and when i was farming he would be helping me and he had, well before that he had a john deere a two cylinder which this is, and i loved to hear the sound of that and i started dreaming some day i want to go across america for some cause, in an old tractor but it wasn't until later in the years one-day on the farm he just out of the blue said ivan if you have a dream don't wait until you're too old or physically can't do it just do it i wish i would have done more and it wasn't until later en my life i realized i was taking my freedom for granted and getting older and i started thinking what he had said to me and i thought if i want to do that i need to do that now. ed: what a great inspiring message from your dad that's just remarkable. cindy what makes you when you hear that work in operation second chance what you do. >> it's great for me because in 2004 i started going to walter reed and visiting the injured soldiers that were there and when ivan drove our tractor to our office in 2016 it was really exciting we had one of our interns take him to walter reed to visit. we've been providing emergency assistance since that time so we've been providing more than $7 million in emergency financial assistance to our wounded injured veterans. pete: so vets and their families you're there to help them? >> yes, so we receive a lot of requests from case workers that we've got families that are living at poverty level and facing eviction, can we help because it comes from a case worker we're able to turn that around within 24-48 hours we're able to provide that assistance to keep them in their home. so it's a real pressing to serve ed: what about the tractor? how did you acquire it how long has it been in the family. pete: how fast does it go? >> it will go 18 but i don't want to have it full throttle. we have it around 14-15 so i keep it two-thirds throttle and a little gps on on the dash, whenever it gets over 15 i start braking and i bring it back but the tractor, i actually, for my dream, i wanted a john deere a, and it's the tractor i always wanted to have and of course when i got this tractor, one of the boys from southeastern pennsylvania restored that completely. some drove 40 miles just to volunteer for a year to restore that tractor. my son-in-law, earl martin trucking put a peterbuilt cab on there and my son said ivan, i need to put something on there for inclement weather i was expecting a frame with a blue tarp but he came one-day and said i found the right cab. it's a 1984 35 peterbuilt cab, and they customized that and put two bucket air seats and put a customized dash in there. ed: so romantic to hear you describe it, the romance people have with a john deere and it's a piece of america. pete: you're hitting the road on may 11 how long will it take you >> actually may 10 i'm leaving from the operation second chance office, probably around five and a half or six months my final destination is middle of october in sarasota, florida. follow me on operation second chance.org, and they actually track me on there. right now if you tracked ivan you can see it setting outside the building there. ed: we'll be tracking you all across the world. pete: sandy thank you. last word. >> oh, i'm sorry we're still looking for sponsors so everyone still has an opportunity to sponsor ivan. we can get their logos on to this and send it ahead to his next stop. ed: i'll be going to the website at 10:01 a.m. eastern time. right now they are setting aside , room for a lot more. pete: operation second chance. don't tell your mother. dad, it's fine. we have allstate. and with claimrateguard they won't raise your rates just because of a claim. that's why you're my favorite... i know. are you in good hands? 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