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columbia ceo and a ceo from a machine parts company in mississippi. >> this is a known hazard. so we really can't afford to have people among our employee base who are hazardous and so we want to have a works place and we believe that the best way to provide that in addition to other hazards that are known is to have people vaccinated against covid. >> you just got to tell them if that's a problem and they won't get vaccinated terminate them? oh my goodness. that's -- that's just impossible. you're terminating 60% of the workforce. logic dictates that's irresponsible. that's crazy. >> reporter: and chuck, lex taylor says it is not like he's not tried to do incentives.