sometimes is to the consternation of our more conservative members. the benefits would be, if he s able to do so in an effective fashion and bring our conference together, i think long-term, it would be to his political benefit. but i think paul ryan, knowing him a little bit, cares about this country and loves this country. and whether or not he does this, he s going to do what i think is right for his family and right for the country. absolutely. so do you how do you think paul ryan could bridge the divide that you mentioned between the ultraconservatives in the freedom caucus and the more moderate republicans. and could he change the image of a splintered republican party? well, i would like to think that he could change the image. i think the real question is going to be whether he can be embraced by everyone as the responsible standard-bearer that he is. i mean, he s a policy maker, he s proven he can get very intractable problems and tough issues to the finish line from a p
ledge lay choor sgislature legislatures. the gop, ultraconservatives have a hard nose position on that. now as a result of what happened in charleston i think it was so you know, earth shattering so cataclysmic to some we re now beginning to see even some conservatives say, well, maybe it is time to revisit and even look at maybe we need to again,checks or take a more balanced view of gun control. i think that s going to be the next area of great concern and i think a battleground, too, that will be revisited. earl, jody, thank you so much. do appreciate your time on this friday. you can see on the top right corner of your screen, hundreds of folks are lining calhoun street here in downtown charleston, awaiting president obama s motorcade to make his way to td arena behind me where some 5,000 folks have been inside. funeral service has been going on now for more than an hour and a half.
being the aultraconservatives. there may be inevitability in the mccarthy win, but then the in your opinion three slot, the whip position, is still hope. i any you will start to see more emergency among conservatives. that s why you see guys like the republican from louisiana who heads the study committee, a big conservative caucus, guys like marlin stetson, also thinking about at least throwing his hat into the ring for the whip position. the idea being look we we would be in charge of votes and we could graduate up the ranks if john boehner decided in the next few months or years to retire. we could cultivate relationships even more and move into the majority leader or speaker slot at that point. it s not entirely over for them. a week is a long time in politics, things could change.
are they trying to drive the center and middle of the road with this mess? i don t think at this point, if every, they really care about the middle of the road. these are people up in new hampshire and they re doing the same in other early primary states for 2016 of appealing to the very heart of the very most active ultraconservatives they can find. these are the people they need to line up for the campaign. and they don t mind if this is broadcast to the rest of the republican party and the rest of the world. this is who they are. they re proud of it. and the republican wisemen whom i talk to around here are scared out of their wits. by this talk? by this talk. i was talking to one of the leading fundraisers in the republican party today. he s no liberal. he s a conservative these people scare him, not only because of their ideology, but because of their demographics. these are people who don t seem to know how to appeal beyond the traditional white male base of the republican
the pope has gone beyond catholicism and this is purely political. i want to share some of this stuff. pope francis attacked unfettered capitalism as a new tyranny. he beseeched global leaders to fight poverty and growing inequality. this is just pure marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope. there s no such unfettered capitalism that doesn t exist anywhere. the pope responded with his characteristic good will. asked by an italian newspaper about how he felt about being called a marxist by ultraconservatives in the u.s., france says the marxist ideology is wrong, but i have met many markists in my life who are good people, so i don t feel offended. anthea, you brought up rush earlier. the interesting thing about calling the pope a marxist, besides the fact it probably isn t a good idea to go after the lord, is there actually is a