lavandera on a boat near dickinson texas, between houston and gal ves ston. >> you've been talking to brave picture and showing incredible pictures, what's the latest? >> this is our fivtd chance to get into some of these neighborhoods. this is a neighborhood called bayou chantilly, just off of i-45. you can see how devastating the floodwaters have been seth came up here earlier in the day, he was rescue iing people the last several hours. he did one last pass through the neighborhood. if you can focus in on this home in front of you, take a look at the roof, you can see the axe
seen here throughout the day, who have driven up i-45 and used it as a boat launch. and this is just one of hundreds of boats that are out on the water here in south houston, this is one particular neighborhood where this is unfolding. this is happening all across the city here this afternoon. >> we're seeing so many cars in drive ways. talk about how quickly the water came up. >> incredibly quickly. people went to bed thinking this was going to be -- >> i talk with one resident. you park your car up close to the -- right here, if you can point down, theres a car. you can see the car just under the water there, we're -- you might not see anything. there are cars underneath here p.m. >> you can see what people have done to get themselves -- they use these towels as a way to get themselves off that steep ledge of the roof and on to the rooftop of the car, they were probably rescued earlier, if you
look into some of these windows, you can see furniture and furnishings inside the home. floating around in the living rooms and bedrooms of these -- of this community. so this is a devastating loss, we have not heard of any injuries or deaths that have taken place in this particular neighborhood. still trying to get that information, all of this is incredibly fast moving and still developi developing, it's hard to get a handle on all of that. i've spoken to people who have been performing rescue missions, and i haven't heard of anyone particularly injured or lost in these floodwaters. so far for this particular neighborhood that we've been able to report on, that is the good news here. look back over this way, you can see a ladder. >> a ladder. >> someone had put outside of
their drive way they used that to get on the roof and on to higher ground. we've seen that a number of times as we've floated through this neighborhood as well. you keep seeing cars you can see a lot of cars that are partially submerged. ircan't tell you there aren't cars still under the water. austin was telling us, he ran aground of one on his previous trip through here, and got stuck on top of it. this is all just a devastating loss as you mentioned in your question, how quickly people woke up in the middle of the night to tornado warnings, i spoke with one woman earlier she said she was on her rooftop and they started hearing -- >> sir do you need help? >> you're good. >> do you know of anybody back here that needs help? >> i just got here.
>> he said he was trying to salvage some things if he could. >> how do people get back into this neighborhood, ed? do you have to get there by boat? >> a lot of them by boats. >> we came, literally floated in off a boat off i-45. you can't wrap your head around that. an interstate that is packed with car traffic, and it's being used as a boat launch into these neighborhoods. >> was there any kind of evacuation order that went out? >> there wasn't any kind of mandatory evacuation order. officials had been urging people to stay home. what i've heard repeatedly from this particular area. they've had neighbors who have lived here for generations, and they've never been worried about
flooding, it's always with stood the tropical storms that this particular area has seen. they felt confident even though this was a monster storm, they would be able to make it through. they woke up this morning, put their feet out of bed into knee high water and it kept rising. incredibly dramatic, stressful for many people one woman we spoke with earlier, talked about how she was on her rooftop hearing the tornd sigh run warnings going off. the sense of panic, thinking that -- here i am on top of this rooftop and there's going to be a tornado dropped down in this area as well. that is the kind of stress and pain that many of the residents here in this neighborhood have been dealing with today. >> and i'm curious, ed, as you've been floating around in this area, have you seen emergency personnel out there as well, hovering above in helicopters? i know there are some 3,000
people who the governor spoke of who are on stand by with the national guard who are prepared to respond in this kind of emergency. we heard of teams coming in from different states, from california to new york, to virginia who are all making their way to texas. when we're looking around in these images, i don't see any emergency personnel. what are you seeing? >> well, you know, we have to be really clear, we're in one isolated area, so it's hard to kind of sometimes give the entire big picture scene of what is going on, beyond our immediate area. i can tell you there have been a number of local authorities who have been navigating and coordinating with a lot of the volunteers who have shown up with their boats many we've seen several coast guard helicopters flying overhead. game wardens trying to handle traffic situations out on the roadway as well 37.
there have been a number of local authorities on the ground trying to do as much as possible. at this point, the demand and the calls for help have far exceeded anything that even -- all of the authorities combined have been able to keep up with, so that is why people like austin seth and hundreds of volunteers who have brought their own boats out here to try to help out, have been needed in this situation. so there's -- it's an overwhelming amount of need here at this point for people trying to get out of harm's way and into dryer and safer ground. >> does austin have enough gas? i imagine there's such a panic, a rush to get in there and help as soon as possible. you have to start thinking about the amount of water that's there and the forecast calling for another round that could bring twice as much water as already has been dumped. it's hard to even imagine what
that might look like. >> this neighborhood is already lost. concern that you also hear from people is that this water all has to move somewhere. there are people downstream in other areas waiting for this -- we just hit a mailbox driving over this pickup truck. the other neighborhoods that as you mentioned, that rain will continue to fall there neighborhood is already lost. there are others who might not have completely flooded today, but are anticipating and very much worried they could be next. everyone monitoring the radar, wondering how much more rain is going to fall. this rain can't end soon enough. >> no doubt about it, ed lavandera, reporting in dickinson texas in this neighborhood that's been completely inundated with flooding. unbelievable images, great reporting. thank you for sharing that with
us. helping us to have a little bit of a sense of the devastation and emergency that that city, that state is under right now. i want to take everybody to downtown houston, this is the nation's fourth largest city, almost completely under water as well. forcing schools to close all week long. the rising water has been creeping up. now it's so high there's nowhere for it to go. >> reporter: that's right. the areas we were talking about yesterday, are completely submerged in water. this is a major intersection in the downtown of houston, it's submerged in water. you can see that some vehicles are in water.
all the people in submerged vehicles in this area have been rescued. you can see there's another vehicle to my left. the water is high, it's difficult to show you here, and keep at a safe distance. that individual was rescued as well, and is safe. and this building to my left is the harris county criminal courthouse between five and ten people were rescued from this building earlier because the water started rising inside the building. i talked to one gentleman who was inside, rescued by four first responders who said that he had an injury, separate, not related to this tropical storm or hurricane. but he wrapped his leg in a plastic bag, four first responders lifted him above the water to make sure that he was lifted to safety.
and he said that the water rose so quickly that they had to be evacuated. >> evacuated from a courthouse in downtown houston. it's difficult to fathom how much water is here. beyond those vehicles, that you see at the -- in the distance, that's where buffalo bayou runs through, ana. that's where we were to the left of those cars, that's where we were talking to you yesterday. we can't go there any more because the bayou is now a raging river headed toward the gulf of mexico. here's the scary part of all of this. houston still getting pummeled. if you just speak about the geography in this area. all of this water has to flow out into the gulf of mexico, we were hearing these amazing harrowing stories from a cnn
correspondent looking at that community. all of this water has to go in that direction, that's what's so devastating, all of those people that live between houston and the gulf of mexico, that's where this water empties out. there's so much worry about where this water is going to go. so long as it's raining, it's not going anywhere. >> you think about the people in the most vulnerable positions, we just got this statement from one of the big hospitals there in houston. our life flight program is currently grounded given the winds that are relentless what is needed is specialized vehicles for the high water. they are desperately needed. no way for some people to even get to that hospital. i understand another texas hospital was forced to evacuate? >> you're right.
>> reporter: that's right. water started rushing into the basement of that hospital. evacuated critical patients first, and then to other areas in this community. the reason why is because of these waters, you see all of this water piled up behind me. and you really wonder how long is it going to take? this hurricane now turned tropical storm really testing the infrastructure here in houston. testing the drainage and the decisions made here in houston as we continue to get pummeled by rain. and we're expecting more of it. >> rosa florez in houston, stay safe. thank you, my friend.
>> some of the most vuler in an are the elderly. this was taken in galveston county earlier today. the owner and residents about two dozen people all together were rescued. the county commissioner says some were found up to their waists in water, those you see in these pictures who were wheelchair bound were found up to their necks in water. in ten minutes, i'm going to talk to the owner's daughter about this desperate situation. let's head over to cnn in atlanta and tom. i'm worried about those folks there, as i know you're looking at more rain in the forecast? >> believe it or not, we're not even close to the halfway point. we are watching unfold what will most likely be a one in 1,000
year event. it could be greater than that. the system will stall on us, without a steering current, it's unfolding before our eyes. many are wondering, why is it still a electron cal storm, hasn't it been on land long enough? shouldn't this be called the remnants of harvey? >> when they are over land, they really fire up. it's feeding off its own rainfall, it's called the brown ocean effect. it's just feeding on all the rain that it's already dropped on the ground. it gives it's energy and sustains its strength. we're watching in the brighter colors of push el and red, the heavier rain fanning to the east now, that's going to add moisture to the ground and provide possible flooding in louisiana. the feeder bands continue to pummel the houston area. we had rainfall rates just last night at 4 to 6 inches per hour south of houston. 10 inches in an hour and a half.
and we just had another band move through, you'll see it on the last couple images, give it another couple hours, i think you're going to get a little bit of a break, we're looking at this system to regenerate as it makes its way offshore. the national weather service has been busy, handling tornado warnings. right now, nothing, that's great news. we still have the watch in effect, and flood emergency continues until 7:15. here's what you have to know. it slides off monday afternoon over the gulf. it could generate a little more strength. then where does it go? it goes to the north, leaving on friday. if you look at all the computer models have been in great agreement they agree. let's pull it back off. the center could be close to
where landfall was made. that could keep electrical crews from restoring energy. most models and we concur, most likely it will be houston which will double the amount of rainfall that they've already picked up. so not only will the waters continue to rise in eastern texas, they're going to be slow to go away. we watch the mess start to move toward louisiana. the computer models have been on this system, it's unfortunate we're watching this event unfold. look for more rainfall to come back into victoria, corpus christi, the heavier amounts continue to stay from galveston to houston. our problem spot is now expanding. that's going to be a big problem, rivers continue to rise rise rise. >> oh, my goodness. tom, you talked about the watches and warnings in effect. ed was talking to people on their rooftops, hearing tornado
sirens. obviously people would normally go to lower ground, with the floodwaters, what do people do in a situation like this? >> it's a great. they tell you not to get into the attic. i mean, the possibility of getting a tornado if you're on top of your roof is slim to say the least. the rescue workers are doing what they can to get you down, they're not going to go up in a tornado warning either. if you can go back down, that's probably the best. do not stay in the attic, they do not want you there. once you are in the clear, you should get someone's attention. hunker down in a doorway if it's not flooded. the tornados are few and far between. i know we've had 112 already. there will continue to be more. most folks, it will be best for them to get the attention of anyone with a 911 call, getting
out there and waiving towels, doing what they can to get someone's attention. the amount of rainfall that's going to double. the tornado threat should slide a little bit. that will be more toward the houston area, when it makes a secondary landfall. >> don't miss tonight at 7:00 eastern, texas governor greg abbott will join us live, so stay tuned for that. still ahead, we showed you the heart breaking photo a moment ago, elderly residents at this texas nursing home stranded and up to their waists or beyond in floodwaters. details on how this picture went viral. and eventually led to their dramatic rescue. the owner's daughter will join us live. on things like struts, brakes, shocks. all kinds of automobile parts.
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the life threatening flooding is only expected to worsen in the coming days. the elderly, especially those who cannot move by themselves are the most vulnerable before the break we showed you a picture. the residents sitting up to their waists or even their chests in floodwaters. around noon today they were rescued. not before the owner snapped this photo, sent it to her daughter desperate for help. >> the owner's daughter is joining us live right now on the phone. >> i couldn't believe it was real as well. my mother sent it to me. i don't think anyone thought there would be a problem.
when i texted her in the morning to check in, i was totally shocked. at that point didn't know what to do, i asked her what i could do to help her, and she said, they were waiting on the national guard, and if we can contact anybody, her phone went dead. we were so upset thinking that we were in imminent danger, that's only -- we were calling emergency management, deciding what to do. to try to get as much attention, find somebody who lived near them. get there with the boat. >> when we saw this pictures on social media is this real? >> i thought it was -- it was my mom, but i recognized the popcorn machine in the photo for sure.
she uses that. i couldn't believe it. i was of the same opinion when i saw it. i knew she was desperate. everyone there is her family. she spends more time with them than she does her kids and grandkids. she loves earn there. she spent the last night with them there at the house. rather than go home. she has a disaster plan in place, i mean, she had it in place, i spoke with her days before. they told her to shelter in place, that's what they did. >> i know a lot of people are watching this are relieved everyone there made it out okay. take me behind the scenes and the emotion you were feeling from hearing what was happening on the other end of the conversation with your mom walk me through what they were doing prior to the rescuers getting there?
>> it was a quick text maybe the power was out or something like that, to get those pictures in response very brief. but she needed help. at that point we had to try to do whatever to save them she said the water was rising. they're going to be dead within hours. at that point we tried calling emergency management, we tried everything we were really grateful, dallas county emergency management office took our call and we told them we couldn't call 911, we were in tampa, we needed them to help. they were very good. they gave us updates at that point, we were very grateful to the national guard and galveston
emergency management we were stressed out trying to make sure they got help. there were reports on twitter they had gotten help, we did not confirm that until hours later. >> have you been in touch with your mom since they were rescues? >> just my stepfather. he texted me to let us know he did -- he was in the back of the national guard truck and they were five. there were a total of 15 residents, 11 of them went to area hospitals. everyone is okay. once we knew that, we felt 10 times, 100, 1,000 times better. it's a helpless feeling being in florida and not being able to help when we know the people were -- could have easily died. >> and just again to reiterate that, we spoke with the local public information officer there for the department of emergency management who confirmed they
all made it out we know the worst is yet to come for folks in that region. we're wishing you the best, thank you for spending time with us to do what you could to help by putting it on social media. that is the bright spot with social media being available. >> we're thankful everyone was able to get out safe. >> fema is gearing up for a year's long effort -- >> the immediate focus is still on rescuing people on the aftermath of this storm, the agency has pledged a long term effort to help the state recover. >> fema's going to be there for years. this disaster recovery, this is going to be a landmark event and we're already in the stages while we're focused on a
response right now. we're pushing forward, recovery housing teams. we're already pushing forward, force us to be on the ground to implement national flood insurance program policies as well we're setting up and gearing up for the next couple years. >> we've learned nearly 5,000 people from the federal government are on site in texas and louisiana, including the coast guard which has been directing hundreds of search and rescue operations. brian todd is witnessing a rescue operation as we speak. >> as you can see, some dogs have been rescued here, we're told some of these boats -- these are private rescuers, the omni hotel. we're told between 60 and 80 people are stranded. they just pulled some of these people out. this is brittany hayes, she was staying at the omni hotel.
they just came and got you. >> it flooded to the second floor, it took -- this morning, probably 6:00 a.m. the hotel lobby started filling up, they brought all the kitchen stuff up to the second level, and that was about it. >> are they trying to get people to upper floors? >> yeah, upper floors, there's no power, there's fumes in there because of the diesel from one of the generators. the fumes from the diesel is fuming up. >> is there anyone injured? >> no one's injured people are just, come get us. >> the hotel staff is calming people down, they gave us as much water as they could, they're trying to keep us calm, but there's definitely people there. >> i'm going to narrate here,
they've come in every 10 or 15 minutes, they're going back over to the omni to pull people out. there's a neighborhood behind the omni where people may need some rescuing. these are private rescuers deploying their own boats and they're about to push off again. they told us they have a lot of work to do to pull people out of here. you told me you're from l.a.? >> what are your impressions of houston? >> i probably won't be back any time soon. everyone is nice. people care and they're coming to help. >> with the hotel, have they told you they're going to try to put you guys somewhere else? >> they're going to take us to the other omni that has power. >> that's where they're taking us now. the sense inside the hotel, are people panicking or are they -- is the hotel calming people down.
>> the hotel staff is awesome. no one should stay the night there everyone needs to be out of there for sure. >> good look at the new hotel where you can be staying. >> you can see from her explanation here, there some people that need to be pulled out. we may get over there with some of these rescuers in a poet to see what those conditions are. we asked them earlier, they said they couldn't take us. we may talk to people as they're coming off the boats. >> hard to believe, the hotel, they're so tall, they have to be evacuated. keep us posted on the ground. worth noting, we got a note from officials in galveston county. and to brian and ed's point. what we're seeing. emergency officials put out the
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let's talk more about the impact of this catastrophic flooding in southern texas as we show you images of a coast guard boat getting ready to head out in the floodwaters. we know there are thousands of rescuers who have arrived. a lot of volunteers on scene. this one in particular, we've learned is a coast guard crew rescuing what appears to be a mother and her young son. now, the airports in terms of travel, they're not doing any better. bush intercontinental is currently at a halt. harvey airport is at a standstill. no flights will be allowed in or out. even if there were flights taking off today, it would be
difficult. every airport in the houston area is underwater. this is a tractor-trailer sitting abandoned almost completely submerged. that was from earlier today at some places street signs are covered. in some cases, cars are entirely submer submerged how serious is the situation where you are? >> reporter: my colleague ed lavandera took you into a neighborhood in houston. let me show you the highways leading into houston i'm standing on the access road here, you can see much of it submerged. turn around head the other direction. the issue here is much of the interstate, at least this one is open, we are seeing people
driving on the highway, if you want to get off that highway, you can make out that offramp off in the distance, it leads you directly into what looks like a lake. that's going to be an issue. the water you see behind me appears to be spilling out of one of the bayous on the city's southwest side. i want to show you the video we shot earlier today. speaking of some of those coast guard rescues. there were coast guard rescuers, having to drop that basket and be able to pluck that individual from a neighborhood and fly out of the area, that's something we've seen before, we've seen quite a bit, and we expect to see even more of in the coming days. folks, try to avoid these spots right here. that will video you showed a little while ago, that's what we
see now, will it get worse? officials think it will. ana. >> a lot of people have asked, why weren't people evacuated ahead of this. they knew the rain was coming. ask people to evacuate, could have made for an even greater nightmare situation as he put it, so thank you for that reporting and giving us a look at the highways and interstates nearby. up next, the devastation in rockpo rockport, our martin savage is there, they took the brunt of the hurricane when it made landfall. we'll hear from a swiftwater rescue team about how they're going out saving people from these floodwaters. r premium plu. the best you can buy starting under $25. only at the home depot. pepsoriasis does that. it was tough getting out there on stage.
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much of rockport is covered in water like houston and other areas. one of two deaths blamed on harvey so far. i understand, martin, people are trying to put some of their lives back to together even though the storm hasn't completely subsided there. what are you hearing in terms of what they're preparing for next? >> reporter: well, what they're trying to do right now is simply get over the shock of what has happened to their county. a massive amount of devastation that you see when you come into this town or even approach it. it's just such a huge scale and it's everywhere you look. just like what you're seeing behind us here, magnify that
block after block. they have many, many homes they have to go through. and it's not just homes. it's boats. it's a waterfront community. the other worry they have is natural gas. because of the massive amount of damage, structural damage, you have a lot of broken pipes. so they're trying to secure those and cap those off. so they're still dealing with a number of dangers and hazards. they did not have any reports of anyone missing. and as you pointed out so far one person so far here has been killed. >> have you learned anymore about that person who died? >> reporter: it was a fire. apparently people say how does a fire start with the downpour and the winds, well they don't know
exactly yet. but it could have been done pour lines or gas. people said all night long there were frantic calls coming in. they will never forget those terrible calls they couldn't respond to. >> martin savidge in rockport, thank you. we are now told 1,200 at least have been taken to safety. in galveston alone that's over a thousand rescues reported over night. you can actually see deputy sheriffs swimming to someone who appears to be up in their neck in water. and it seems this is becoming all too common. 600 vessels have been activated. and 3,000 national guard members have been coming. this is part of the state's
urban search and rescue team in houston which has been deployed. thank you for spending time with us. your team is on the way to houston right now. they specialize in water rescues. what's the plan, exactly, when they get there? >> well, they'll get there, with they hit the ground they'll get a specific mission. they'll setup a base of operation and all the things necessary to get ramped up right away. i'd anticipate unquestioningly they'll get to work right away with respect to doing search and rescue missions. >> so your team employs swift and search water rescues. what does that involve. >> that water fills up very
quickly, has nowhere to go, and where a street may have been dry one minute, the next minute it has flowing water of several feet that goes very, very quickly. and the team that we sent along with other teams from around the country are specially trained, equipped and certified to deal with any rushing water, as well as any still rescues. again, someone could be walking along and then no water and then water may appear or all of a sudden they get pushed up by water. they're well-trained, well equip would, well prepared. and they're self-sustaining. they will not be a draw on the resources there. >> we heard from fema officials this is storm that has not been
seen before. what's your assessment? >> it seems very catastrophic and very reminisce want of some of the catastrophic situations with tutrina. 30 plus inches of rain, i mean that's unfathomable. it's unquestionably something that's very, very difficult to deal with. on a day-to-day basis in challenging enough in the law enforcement business. but now add this especially at night where there's no electricity, pitch-black, rushing water, standing water. and we've heard before house fires starting from wires down, things igniting. it just is a major, major challenge and catastrophic situation. >> real quick what is the best
way for people who are stranded right now to signal for help? >> well, certainly if they're fortunate to have a phone, have a flair, have a flashlight, certainly their voice, anything of that nature. and obviously the most important thing is to get to the highest place they can if it involves a roof or anything. it's so important right now so we can get to you. those first responders are right are in that area as well as those coming in. we want to get to you by helping you. but try to help us by helping yourself right now. >> thank you so much for spending some time with us. these are live images, by the way, of a rescue happening as we speak.
involved in the investigation. as of about 90 minutes ago, investigators legitimately had no idea why stephen paddock committed mass murder. he did not seem religious. he didn't seem political. that's true. the crime still makes no sense at all to the people looking into it. and that may be the scariest part of all. now, all of that could change at any minute, of course. as we said, we are waiting for investigators to begin that news conference in las vegas. it is possible they will reveal new evidence then. we will go to that, obviously, when it begins. a few minutes ago we received the very first statement from the shooter's girlfriend recently arrived back in the u.s. from abroad. we will play that for you in just a minute. in the meantime though we want to show you a new tape we have received. it doesn't answer why this happened, but it does provide some context for what it was likes a it was happening. here is footage from police body cams taken on sunday night. [gunfire] [rapid gunfire.
those, that information associated with that. okay? and then subsequently i will return to the podium, assist with some q and a, and then commissioner sislac is available if you have any questions of the commissioner and obviously senator dean heller who wished to address the audience, also. so, president trump, i think he was in town today. [laughter] yes, he was in town. and the reason why i bring up president trump has nothing to do, in fact, with president trump. but to do with the police department. there was some concern because of his visit that investigations associated with this case would be delayed or hindered. and i'm here to assure you none of that occurred. there was a separation of personnel associated with first responders of the harvest festival event that
took the opportunity to meet with mr. trump, and he had the opportunity to congratulate them for their heroic acts. investigators are directly related to this investigation both on my department and the fbi were not part of that. so, i want everybody assured there was no hinderance in continuance of the investigation. return of property. there is a lot of questions going on with that. and i wish i could provide you answers with that. we will try to post on the website as soon as we can, advise victims when they can receive their personal property. we are still evaluating the crime scene. until that completes, the property phase will not occur. so, the best of my understanding of where we are at, we are looking at four to five days. so, i know that sounds troublesome, but it's important that we dot the
i's and cross the t's as far as the evidentiary and possible prosecution in the future. injuries. injury numbers that we are using today 489. of that 489, 317 have been discharged from the hospital. so the question is, sheriff, you provided several different numbers associated with that all the way up to 527. now, you got to imagine we're dispersed across several hospitals, we're relying on internal communication of the hospitals to provide us accurate numbers. so that's everchanging. initially hospitals received patients outside of this event. quite often or hopefully not quite often but often some of those patients were double counted or they were misconstrued as event injuries versus other injuries such as car accidents. so today i'm comfort be in
saying the injured number is 489. deaths still remain at 59. i had told you 59 before. plus one being the suspect. that changed. today it's 58 plus one, the suspect 59. and it's the same reason that occurred before as i explained. so i hope you understand that. nobody wants that number to go up and by the grace of god it went down. so, that's a good night. so, today i will provide you some updates on our investigation of the mass shooting sunday night at route 91. more than 100 investigators have spent the last 72 hours combing through the the life of 64-year-old stephen paddock to produce a profile of someone i will call disturbed and dangerous. what we know is stephen paddock is a man who spent decades acquiring weapons and ammo and living a secret life. much of which will never be fully understood.
he meticulously planned on the worst domestic attack in the united states history. as many of already reported paddock rented a room at the ogden hotel in la downtown las vegas. this has been confirmed. reasons that ran through paddock's mind was unknown. but it was directly during the same time as life is beautiful. we have received, recovered evidence from that location. we don't know if it is evidence, but we have recovered items and video evidence. i'm using the wrong term. evidence is not the term. we have recovered video from there to review mr. paddock's actions while he was there. now, it's important for you to understand. this was not the -- the rooms were not rented by the ogden. it was done through air b and b, by a private owner
known to the ogden. so we have very great cooperation from the owners of life is beautiful and the ogden and they are in full cooperation. okay. we have spoken many people have contacted stephen paddock at hotels and places he frequented, we still have more interviews to conduct. since monday, there have been many questions for us to release a time line and today we have one. i want to point out the information previously reported on the time of the first shot was based on a cad report. that's our computer aided dispatch. that's what we do for calls for service. so, that report is dependent on who -- you know, a particular person calling n that time stamp. but what we have done through the review of body
warn cameras, we were able to pull it back to previously from 10:08 to 10:05. so, carlos -- i'm going to give you a chance to review that, take photographs of it and i will walk you through each time line. so at 10:05 first shot fired by the suspect. this was seen on closed circuit television from the concert venue. 10:12, first two officers arrived on the 31st floor and announced that gunfire is coming from directly above them. 10:15, the last shots are fired from the suspect per body worn camera. so, if you are looking at the math, 10 minutes. 10:17 the first two officers arrive on the 32nd floor. 10:18, security officer tells the officers he was shot and gives the exact location of the suspect's room. now, you notice a minute delta there before they broadcasted it, obviously they were in a conversation with the security guard immediately upon them exiting the elevators.
between 10:26 and 10:30, 8 additional officers arrived on the 32nd floor and began to move systematically down the hallway. clearing each room and looking for any injured people. they moved this way because no longer hear the gunfire of the active shooter situation. 10:55, 8 officers arrive at the stairwell at the opposite end of the hallway near the suspect's room. can you imagine the doorway of the hotel room, this stairwell and this door access is approximately two to three feet away. 11:20 the first breach was set off and officers entered the suspect's room. they observed the suspect down on the ground and also saw a second door that could not be accessed from their position. so it's a suite. we have -- you have a main area of the suite, which is the living room, kitchen,
dinette area and then on opposite ends of that is two bedrooms. i'm sorry, where did i leave off? somebody yell it out. >> 11:20. >> okay. so if do you the math on that, all the way up to 11 -- from 10:05, we are looking at 75 minutes. young lady here in the front with the red phone had you mentioned 72 minutes. so now you see where those minutes came from. okay? at 11:it 7 the second breach was set off allowing officers to access the second room and no one else was located within the hotel room. okay. these are following extenuating circumstances as to why it appeared that there was some undue delay in reaching the suspects. the officers in the first strike team reached the 32nd floor within 12 minutes, which is phenomenal of the
first shot being fired. when the officers arrived and confirmed the location of the suspect's room, the gunfire had stopped. in accordance with their training, officers received the master key card from the injured security guard and began to systematically clear each hotel room. so imagine the elevator bank in the center, 150 feet down on a triplex hotel was the suspect's room. so there are several rooms along the way because no firing was occurring, they could not hear additional firing. they believed it was important to evacuate in case the suspect was barricaded. while the first strike team did this the second team made of two canine personnel a swat officer and patrol officers navigated stairs carrying large bag with tack
nickel equipment and holding rifles in order to have a closer position to the suspect's room. that is within that stairwell and that doorway adjacent to the room i described previously. they attempted to secure the front doorway of the suspect's room. but, as they entered into the hallway, they could see the room service card and readily apparent on the room service card were cameras. so they pulled back and they waited for the approach of a full swat team. it was not undue. it was purposeful heard by the suspect at this point. eventually a plan was formulated. entry was made. suspect was seen laying on the ground. they encountered a closed bedroom door which was locked and they breached that door and found additionally no suspects. another investigative issue was cameras. questions was presented about cameras and whether
they were recording. we determined none of the cameras were recording. there was two cameras on the room service card out in the hallway. there was one on the peephole of the front door and additionally there was baby monitor camera placed in the general family area of the hotel room. none of them were being recorded. one thing i left out was the initial approach and they looked out in the hallway. when they observed the cameras on the room service cart, it was obviously there was several rounds discharged through the door, and through the blast of the bullets through the door, you could actually see a weapon through those openings in the door but no suspect was seen. now, those rounds were the rounds he put through the door in order to shoot at the security guard. okay. the other thing i wanted to
update you on is the search warrant of the suspect's vehicle located at the mandalay bay. i have presented that there was ammonium nitrate recovered but there were several cases within the car that had not been searched yet at the last briefing i provided with you. so, within those cases there was 10 one-pound containers of tanner right and approximately 1600 rounds of ammunition. so carlos, can you put up the numbers? so tip line. this is an ongoing investigation we can never not have enough information because we are continuing to run down leads and it's important for us to get all the information we can on mr. paddock. because right now we are
trying to prove his intent or understand his intent and history associated with this and whether or not he has any accomplices. so, we ask people to still call in to 311. if you are out of state 702-828-3111. and fbi call 1-800-call-fbi. that is investigative and also electronic media. if you are able to call them, they will provide you the ability to download that online into their system. so at this point, i will provide you special agent in charge aaron roust. he will walk you through some of the investigative steps we have accomplished jointly and where we are at in that total investigation. subsequent to that i will come back to this podium for any q and a and then we will have commissioner sisilak and senator dean heller make comment. thank you.
>> thank you, sheriff. my name is aaron roust i'm special agent in charge for the special division of the fbi. before i begin, i just want to comment that on behalf of all of the fbi, specifically the division. our sympathy goes out to all of the families affected by this tragedy. this is our community. it's our community, too. we live here. and we will get through this together the partnership has a great partnership with the metropolitan police department as well as our other state and local officials. to say this investigation will take a while is not surprising there is a lot of information that's going to change over time as we determine more facts. but this is what i can tell you. our resolve is firm. we will get to the bottom of this no matter how long it takes. the fbi has deployed over 100 personnel from across the nation to assist the las vegas division in this investigation.
this includes victim witness assistance. counselors, evidence technicians and technical assets. not to mention additional agents to help cover leads. the information that the public provides us is going to help us solve this. but we must focus on facts. we cannot give in to conjecture and we cannot respond to every little twitter feed that may indicate a theory we need to focus on the facts. you need us to be right. you expect us to be right and we want to be right. there are going to be questions. i'm sure you are going to have questions about some people that we have been talking to. maybe people outside of the united states the fundamental trust of the american people and fbi is based upon our discretion and how good would that discretion be if we were to provide information that they provided to us in
confidence? this is about informing on an investigation. this is about resolving an investigation. so specifics regarding any individual contact cannot be answered. you need us, you trust us. and the way we have that trust is by using good discretion about what we share. additionally, we have multiple leads all across the united states and all across the world for our legal attaches determining the whereabouts and travel patterns of all the people involved in this investigation. and that list grows. a lot of those leads will go absolutely nowhere but we have to follow them and that's going to take some time. patience is going to be required of all of us. i know we have the patience of this police department because we have great partnership and we are all interested in the same thing, resolving this issue fairly and factually. with that, i will turn it back over to sheriff lombardo. >> okay.
happy to answer questions. and, please provide some decorum. >> sheriff. >> yes, sir. >> we know that you have an opportunity to speak to marilou danley. we know you have director mccabe and access to his computers, his cell phones and social -- and while you are not yet able to tell us exactly, specifically what you have found, let me ask a general question. >> okay. >> through all of that information that you have so far arrived at, is there anything that gives you a sense as to what was going on with this man, with the motive. without saying what it is. are you seeing anything that gives you a direction or any kind of an answer to that question? >> >> globally, no. i'm sorry to report me personally. but i'm not privy to the subsequent interviews that were conducted today. the fbi is not ready to disclose for public consumption what occurred in those interviews as of yet.
sorry for that answer. >> yes, sir. >> ms. danley said to her attorney during the course of her time with the suspect that she never saw or heard anything that suggested that he would carry out an acted like this. you also said that you are looking for other people associated with him. we have information specifically that there is a woman that you are looking for to talk to that may have been associated with the suspect is that true? >> are you giving me a chance to answer? [laughter] >> can you start from the beginning? >> sorry. questions about ms. danley her comments to the lawyer. >> i think anyone put in her situation would probably answer the same way. like i said, we are not privy to investigative leads that were obtained today. mr. rouse could probably give you better clarification of that i
haven't been briefed by the fbi on that interview as of yet. what was the other question? >> >> you said you are still trying to figure out whether he had an accomplice. >> we are obviously going through that it's troublesome this individual was able to move this amount of gear into a hotel room unassisted it's troublesome for the amount of stuff that he had at both residents unassisted. so, there is people that know this individual. there are people that could help us understand this individual. interestingly enough, i read a periodical earlier today and it was from an fbi profiler that didn't understand this individual usually there is a telltale sign associated with this kind of actions, reclusive, a elizabet plethora of things associated. what could be more beneficial than find people
associated with him either through friendship or accomplice and for us to determine that. >> thank you. >> sheriff,. >> yes, sir. >> two questions, sheriff. first, you mentioned in your comments he had a secret life. what do you mean by that? >> most of us -- i don't. i don't live through social media. okay? there is a lot of us that live through social media in today's world. there is a lot of people that are interactive in the public there is a lot of people that have work marital. this individual is retired. we found out he has real estate investments. relationship wise it's very hard to determine what has occurred in his life in the last decade or. so we do know that he has an ex-wife. she didn't lead us to any knowledge. we know that everybody knows we talked to his brother. no knowledge was obtained. anything that would indicate this individual's trigger points and would cause him
to do such harm, we haven't understood yet. i think it's important to get to there. and you have to be patient with us. because this premeditation of this room, this is well thought out don't you think the concealment of his life and history was thought out. it's incumbent upon us as professionals to figure that out. >> and besides what he did that horrific act, are there any other signs of a mental breakdown? >> i'm not aware -- i personally have not been breached on some of his personal background. i'm leaving that to the experts. and i haven't been updated on that yet. it's going to be frustrating. you have got to remember, and i have said it 100 times. this is an investigation and we can't be delayed by providing information that would delay our information or cause an individual to go
underground. you know all of that everybody sitting before me knows that. and i just need to you stand it. okay? it's important for you to convey to the public we're doing everything that we are possibly can do to bring this to fruition. and i think we are doing that, and i ask you for your patience. >> sheriff, would you confirm through the course of your investigation you discovered that, perhaps, might have been targeting another concert a week before the concert? >> i have mentioned that he had obtained a room at the obligor again which is located in downtown at the time that life is beautiful was being conducted. was doing presurveillance? we don't know yet. this is all conjecture at this point. that's why it is important for us to have boots on the ground getting the answers. >> the stairwell, there is information out there that the door to the stairwell, the 32nd floor was barricaded and possibly welded shut. can you confirm whether that
door was welded shut? >> it was not welded shut but it was secured. >> sheriff, have you determined whether he had visitors in his room while he was at the hotel? >> no. not as of yet, no. >> >> as of yet, no. we haven't been able to determine whether there was anybody else in that room besides him. >> handwriting in the card handn the car does that lead to you believe he might have been planning a bigger attack. >> it remained in the car for some reason. >> is there -- how many rounds he fired and estimate how many rounds did he fire? >> no. you know what? i will give you my personal preview, that will come out in the public space. the rounds haven't been counted yet. there is a lot of evidentiary recovery. prior to the recovery of the rounds but there was well in excess of thousands of
rounds in the room. >> there was a yellow, what appeared to be a yellow note. can you tell us anything about that? >> no, i don't. i can't recall. >> a suicide note. >> no. it was not a suicide note. i'm comfortable in saying thatting. >> sheriff, where is marilou danley now and is she still a person of interest? >> okay. everything to do with marilou danley i will have special agent ralph address that if you have any questions outside of that, we can circle back on that. stefanie? >> i have questions billion marilou danley. >> do you want to know how i know her name? she was eating lunch next to me today and introduced
herself. she is from australia. >> sheriff, do you know what -- >> very good question. no, i do not know -- this is my assumption. only my assumption. and nobody has been able to dispel my assumption as of today. i believe because of his counter measures placed in the peephole and hallway he observed the security guard and he was in fear that he was about to be breached. so he was doing everything possible to figure out how he could escape at that point. his concern was personal concern versus what was occurring down below him. >> is there a time when he shot himself? >> i don't know the answer to that question. that's a question that's been presented and we haven't been able through the internal investigation of that to pinpoint exactly if it was heard when he shot himself or did it occur in close proximity of entry? because as you imagine when they breached the door they used explosive devices so did it occur in close proximity to that explosive device and we lost it in the
audible or occurred when we were trying to set up our team in the hallway? >> do you know when the security guard was separated from the other officers? >> it was my understanding before he had gotten separated that was inaccurate. what had happened was he was conducting a an investigation on commerce calling. in he was personally attempting to locate what was occurring. he happened upon that doorway because it was ajar which keyed his interest. our officers were in close proximity. by the time line there, as soon as they came out of the doorway of the elevator he was there. it happened in a matter of seconds. >> hold on, let me finish. >> there was a note. was there content? >> what note, the yellow paper? >> yes. >> i don't know. i don't know i did a cursory review of the room, but i haven't been provided that
information. i know it was not a suicide note. >> saw the security guard approaching that might have caused him to stop shooting. if he shouldn't seen the security guard approaching, do you believe the shooting would have continued? >> no. i'm comfort be in saying no. here's why. because the same action of the security guard would have occurred with our patrol officer that was approaching up there. we had knowledge he was between 31 and 32. remember before we said 29 to 32. subsequently through that time culled down to 31 to 32. a nonable customer prior military said it was occurring directly above him. subsequently the officers were doing their own checks. he was not aware of what that customer had said. and they were conducting -- he was trying to pinpoint it our officers had learned because they ha security guard attached to them. they had recent information the individual was on 32. so they would have
encountered him shortly in that time line maybe 60 seconds. i would assume the same thing would have occurred. >> is there a question about when he stopped firing and why? you already said he may have scene security guards or your own personnel shortly thereafter. based on the assessment, the weapon that was there that he was using, had access to were any of these weapons jammed or inoperable or could very continued to fire it without any problems if he had not seen and the cameras that were there coming his way. >> he could have continued firing. some of them were jammed but he could have continued firing. >> you said some were jammed. >> yes. >> how many. >> i don't know the number. he had plenty of fire power available. >> do we have any idea, again. >> if you recall, there was 23 weapons recovered jammed and others within reach.
>> last question weapons he was using [inaudible] this guy had 300 ground and 800-yard kill zone. how many of those weapons that he was using, firing, had advanced optics on them? anything like that? just from my visual vigil of the crime scene three had scopes. most of them did not have scopes. from what i know of firearms, it appeared to be hunting scope not marks manship scopes. >> sheriff, was the security guard armed and can you talk about his bravery. >> i don't know if he was armed. i don't know the security profile at the mandalay bay. i know quite often some security officers are armed. some aren't. some supervisors. i don't know the profile at the mandalay bay personally. so i don't know if he was armed. but his bravery was amazing because he remained with our officers and provided could
pause to access the door and actually helped them continual to clear rooms until our officer demanded that he go seek medical attention. >> while injured? >> yes. >> let him ask the question. >> gambling. >> we're aware he was gambling. >> for hours? >> i don't know the time line but we are aware he was gambling. >> sheriff, atf agents, agent snyder -- >> -- so let me provide some clarification because it will answer one of the other questions on accomplice. when we did see he was gambling, we did not see another individual that appeared to be companion. >> cbs news, bought weapons in october of 2016. bought 33 rifles. are you looking into the possibility that there may have been some kind of a mental issue, something that happened in october of 2016 that compelled him to purchase those weapons? >> yes. >> you? >> yes.
if there what did you uncover? >> i haven't. i don't have any information. i wish i can provide you but i don't have it because we keyed on that, too, sir. >> after he saw the security guard that his concern became himself. did you see any evidence that he planned to survive this or planned to escape. >> yes. >> what was it. >> i can't tell you. >> security guard officers coming up positively identify his location and. >> i'm sorry, start over. >> security guard or your officers arriving positively identified the gunman's location first? >> it was the security guard. the officer had knowledge that it was occurring on the 32nd floor. they assumed it was at the end of the hallway because the person that had called in said it was occurring directly above him. so they had assumption proximity of the room. the security guard had confirmed it prior to the arrival. >> can you tell the detail of the imagination tuesday of the gunfire that he encountered when he was
spotted? >> yeah. my personal observation well over 200 rounds straight in the hallway. so it's amazing that that security guard didn't sustain additional injury. >> you commented you believed he had a plan or some kind of a plan for surviving this particular incident? what have you determined given you a clue. >> a different way to answer the same question. and i can't answer that for you. [laughter] >> did the officers fire back at all? >> no. no. >> sheriff, you mentioned accomplices. we have talked previous previously about marilou danley as a person of interest. are there any other persons of interest in this investigation? >> well, is there any other? no. concrete, no. we are looking at it this way, ken. is there another one? we are determining to find out if there was it's important not to close this
case until we run down everything. >> should we ask the -- >> look at this. you look at the weapon obtaining, the different amounts of tannerite available. do you think this was all accomplished on his own? self-value, face value, you got to make the assumption he had to have some help at system point. we want to ensure that's the answer. maybe is he a super guy. maybe super hero -- not a hero, but a super -- i won't use the word. maybe he is, you know, super yahoo that was working out all of this on his own. but, it would be hard for me to believe that. >> and do we need to ask -- here's the reason why. put one in one together. two and two together. another residence in reno with several firearms, okay. electronics and severing associated with. large amounts of ammo.
a place in mesquite, we know he had a girlfriend. do you think this is all self-face being individuals are just without talking to somebody sequestered amongst themselves? i mean, come on, folks, these type of investigations have been occurring in the last three years and we have to evaluate that so hold on, i'm done, okay? what i want you to do is give aaron rouse an opportunity to talk about marilou. he may not have anything for you. i think it's fair for you to ask him and then i would like to get to senator heller and commissioner sislak. >> the car was -- [inaudible] >> i'm sorry. >> was the car planned for him -- >> don't ask me to make assumptions. please. >> ken? >> we were asking where is marilou danley now and is
she still a person of interest in this investigation? >> as i mentioned in my comments, you know, people rely on us for our discretion. if someone is assisting us in an investigation, if they are being cooperative, that is between us and them giving away a location of a citizen or somebody that is cooperating with us is not in our best interest. it's not in that person's best interest. so that's a matter of their business. we are not going to comment on that. >> she is not in federal custody. >> we have no one in custody. >> thank you. >> if i could ask the same question, without saying anything specific, after seeing his computer, after speaking to marilou, do you have any direction, any sense as to what may have been the motive. anything? >> as i mentioned in my earlier remarks, we like to deal in facts. so theories are great and everyone can have a theory
but i need to deal with facts. the sheriff needs to deal with facts. we are reliant on that to do our jobs. that's what we are going to focus on. there are a number of working theories out there. we will continue to use those but we are not going to publicize them because that's not fair to anyone. we don't want to taint anyone unfairly. we want to make sure that what we have is accurate. you want us to be accurate. that's what you expect of u us. >> domestic terrorist? >> we have found no evidence to this point to indicates terrorism. but this is an ongoing investigation. we are going to continue to look at all avenues. we are not closing down any doors. the best way to do an investigation, the sheriff will tell you this, i will tell you this, is that you don't go in with assumptions. he is not going to make assumptions as he just said. i'm not going to make assumptions. we are going in there following the facts. the facts will always lead to you your conclusion. we hope, very much so, to be able to provide concrete information to the public about why this happened.
because that's what is on everyone's mind. because to understand the why helps you deal with the tragedy we have all faced and we have all faced it so believe me, we want to know why. >> okay. i want to take this time to give -- to say a few words. >> thank you. i'm going to say some things that the sheriff -- didn't say. when you see these men and women in these uniforms and the men and women don't wear uniforms but have lapel pins, i noticed, have you got to tell them thank you. i have dealt with these folks and been working with them for the last three days. they are working on zero sleep. i beg of you to show some patience. i'm hearing the same question asked three, four, five times in different ways. speculation coming out of this group. these gentlemen deal exclusively in facts. they are not speculating.
there is no conjecture here. they are not dealing with theories. they are dealing with facts. their primary purpose and their goal is to conclude this investigation in a professional and accurate manner and i'm totally confident that they're going to do that. they are protecting the citizens of clark county and the tourists that are here. they have made the city safe again it is a safe place to come. we encourage that, but i implore you, please, please show some patience and understand they are not going to deal with conjecture and theories coming up on social media. thank you very much. >> senator. >> my words and comments are similar to what the commissioner just said and the importance of patience
this more risk incident is less than 72 hours old. the reason i come to these brief ever briefings and press conference is to listen to the sheriff and learn bit by bit what happened just a little while ago. what i want to express is my gratitude to the sheriff, the fbi, the atf and everybody keeping us up to date what is going on, briefing my office and myself i also want to express how grateful i am the president of the united states came and expressed his sincere concerns for this community and understanding what this means. i had a rare occasion to be at 30,000 feet with a couple hours of face time with this particular president, and we talked -- the individuals, the deputies, the first responders and all that and what they were able to achieve in a very short period of time. in my cell phone here, i have numerous pictures of survivors from umc. i expressed and shared those pictures with the president of the united states so he could see. so damage and what had occurred. one in particular was a deputy that was on the second -- we have heard this story second day on the job. he was there. his father was actually at the event as a spectator when the shooting occurred.
got hit in the arm. went in to his chest. his name brady cook. and i shared this story with the president. the president went up to the fifth floor of umc and had an opportunity to talk to this young man and express his sincere gratitude for his strengths. i also showed him a picture of a cell phone that had a bullet, apple phone that had a bullet through it. it was a therapist over at umc that bullet went through her phone and hit her hand. she just had tissue damage. she fixed it herself. went back to umc sand spent hours helping those that had come into the hospital. these stories were important for me to share with the president of the united states as he was coming in to this valley and understand the depth of the issue we had on hand. i also lobbied him on couple
issues. i didn't lobby the president because it was important to me. i asked the governor what should i talk to him about? the mayor, what do you want me to talk to the president about. i asked the sheriff what do you want to talk to the president about. it had to do with urban terrorist funds that come out of homeland security and how important it is that las vegas, this strip has the funding necessary to keep not only its citizens safe but also those that are visiting this city it's not enough that we have 2.1 million people that live in this valley. we have 42 million people that come in every year to visit. i want to make sure that las vegas has the funding, terrorism funding necessary to keep us safe, to buy the equipment that they need to be able to monitor and to be able to follow up on the issues that they are faced with on a day-to-day basis. so, my gratitude continues. my gratitude continues from everybody around the country about 15 seconds ago i was
sitting behind a cab driver that i used in new york city just sent me a text. we became friends on a ride. but his message was senator, myself, my family and all my drivers want to express our condolences to those touched by the recent weekend shootings. all our best. a cab driver from new york concerned about las vegas valley. so, i am grateful for all my colleagues back in washington, d.c. grateful for the sheriff, the fbi, the atf, all the work that's being done. the healing has begun, but it's been less than 72 hours. we have a long way to go. thank you very much for being here today. >> all right. that will conclude today's press conference so as a matter of moving forward. -- >> tucker: so about a 40-minute press conference out of las vegas. local police, the fbi, some politicians getting before the microphone there fox news trace gallagher has been in vegas since the beginning of all of this and joins us with an update. hey, trace. >> just a 40-minute
astounding news conference, tucker. amazing. the sheriff came out and first said confirmed something we had brought up a couple nights ago that he did, in fact, rent a room at the ogden hotel in downtown, las vegas and it was overlooking the concert venue of life is beautiful. that was the week before the route 91 concert. it goes on to say on top of the ammonium nitrate found in his car valet at mandalay bay they found some 50 pounds of tannerite. we talked to experts around here they said 50 pounds of tannerite exploded with a high powered rifle is enough to take off a healthy chunk of the hotel. unclear what his motives were. we talked about presurveillance with the sheriff. he says he simply does not know. the subject came up about the girlfriend, right? they talked about marilou danley and what her impact was today in the fbi. she was this there for five and a half hours. they gave us very little information saying they are not going to tell anybody about where she is, if she is staying in los angeles because they don't want to ruin her confidence. apparently she is
cooperating. but her lawyer came out after five and a half hours with the fbi he came out and he gave a statement saying that she one was cooperating, two, she knows nothing about the attack three she grieves for the victims and family she session that steve paddock was a kind and gentle man. she acknowledged he sent her $100,000. here is her reasoning. >> while there, he wired me money. she said for me to buy a house for me and my family. i was grateful but honestly i was worried that, first, the unexpected trip home and then the money was a way of breaking up with me. it never occurred to me in any way whatsoever that he was planning violence against anyone. one thing that has not been addressed tucker, no one has
asked her, we don't know how the phrasing was whether or not that she knew there were an arsenal of weapons inside the two homes that she lived with him in. we're talking about 47 guns, explosives, and suitcases of ammunition. we still don't know if that's been addressed with her and if she knew anything about that, tucker. >> tucker: there is an awful lot we don't know, trace. thank you for keeping on top of all of that we appreciate it joining us now is best selling author mark steyn who has been following this as carefully as anybody. mark, are you struck by how little we know about motive? we know a lot about the firearms and the tannerite and all the rest. the girlfriend. why would someone who fits this profile or any profile do something like this? it doesn't seem like we know anything about that. >> no. as you said at the top of the show, tucker, that's why in the vacuum various conspiracy theories are starting to arise. there are reports that the video found in the room points in a certain
direction: the london papers already reporting that piece of yellow paper in the room. if not a suicide note. shared press conference is his choice of this phrase, quote: secret life, unquote. which is not quite the same as saying things that there are lots of things we don't know. he seems to be suggesting that there is this life that this guy was leading that is different from his life as a retired accountant and professional gambler. as i think you noted, a day or two ago, too, tucker. it's actually very unusual in this day and age for a man to have as blank a profile on the internet as this guy has. if he were, for example, a cia or mi-6 agent. they would plot the rudiments of a social media
profile out there on the internet just so that it didn't look weirdly blank. whereas this guy's profile looks weirdly blank. i thought the other point the sheriff raised that was interesting was he at this tiptd very close up to the point of saying as far as he was concerned this guy had to have had an accomplice. this thing was very well organized, very well planned right down to requesting and securing the exact hotel room that he wanted actually quite a tricky thing to do in las vegas. from that point of view, the sheriff seemed to be saying that he couldn't raiser would suggest this guy had to have someone out there helping him. plus, the fact that he intended to in other words
the stuff we were talking about when non-islamic terrorism happened that some guy just snaps and guns down his high school or guns down a shopping mall. this isn't that there is something more to it going on. >> tucker: which even makes the motive for it more confusing. if he had no political or religious agenda, why do something like this? very, very striking. really quickly, the briefers today said there was no indication of severe mental illness. we do know he was prescribed psychotropic drugs. is it so crazy to wonder if people's behavior isn't affected by the drugs they take. is that a crazy thing to ask? >> i think that's true. what i find slightly difficult in this case, tucker is, that a drug could have that effect on him but not impact his ability to function at a very high
level. >> tucker: right. good point. >> the fact that his girlfriend did not notice any change in him. what might be more relevant is this guy is a professional gambler. in other words, bluffing is what he does with his life. and there have been reports out there that various doctors and so forth have conducted that compulsive gamblers in that sense are expert at concealment and covering up and all the rest of it. and that actually -- because the efficiency with which he planned this and carried it out is not consistent with someone who has just gone a little screwy because some drugs have had a side effect go wacky on him. >> what's exactly right to. what end is the question we don't know. mark steyn, thank you for all that. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> details as sparse as they are about stephen paddock. stories on the shooter's race and sex.
cnn ran a story today entitled quote how america has accepted the rage of white men. salon.com ran a story entitled america's white man problem after las vegas a familiar script unfolds. vox ran a story called white american man, a bigger domestic terror threat than muslim foreigners. now not one of those outlets of course would ever publish a aanalogous piece. goes too easy on white men after shootings like this. elm rit is a law professor, he thinks that thanks for come on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: not obvious to me why there is a racial component to this. i don't see that the guy's race is relevant to anything. why is it central to your analysis of this? >> it's central to the coverage. if we look back how orlando was covered. immediately without any investigation to him he had
a motive simply because he was a muslim. we find out later that it was much more complicated that he had identity issues and all these other things. but the media jumps out right away, right? and gives usually white shooters the privilege of acting as an individual, not acting on behalf of a race or group. that doesn't happen to any other people especially muslims or arabs. he even had a 14-year-old -- >> tucker: can i say two things? it wasn't that complicated in orlando. he didn't have sexual identity issues. we know that after months of looking at it. he called 911 and said i'm doing this on behalf of my religion. it's not about his race. it's about his religion there are muslims from all over the world who don't lookalike share the same race as you know. and so it's not a racial issue to say that an ideology inspires people to do certain things. that's not racial, right? >> yeah. but the media -- no, no, you are not right. because what happens is people who are not white, especially if they're arab or muslim automatically have a motivation. i'm not talking about what
happens after months of investigation. i'm talking about what happens in the first 24 to 48 hours when the media covers something. even a 14-year-old kid in texas who brought a clock to school somehow had a motivation, right? and he was arrested and questioned without his parents. and the guy in las vegas with 42 guns and they are searching for a motivation instead of assuming that he has any. the double standard is glaring. it happens all the time in the media especially with arab and muslim americans. >> tucker: let's be totally honest. since september of 2001, it wasn't that long ago. 89% of all deaths and mass killings have been caused by muslims. it's not an indictment of muslims. that actually is -- >> that is not true. >> tucker: actually, stop, stop, stop. that number is true. and it's not actually. >> percent of mass shootings in america are committed by white men. we shouldn't indict white culture for that what i'm saying do away with terrorism all together.
>> tucker: terrorism is a loaded term. and i would be happy to get to get rid of it. >> it's nothing more than a racial slur. >> tucker: that's silly. muslims make up about 1% of the american population. they are not arabs. not pose tunes, not racial groups. make up 1% of the u.s. population. >> religion gets racialized. religion gets racialized in the way. >> tucker: only by morons. it's not a race. it's a creed. >> do you refer to the boston bombers as white? they were from the caucus mountains. they are actually caucasians. >> tucker: they seem as white as you seem. which is pretty white. >> you refer to them as muslim. >> tucker: that's kind of the point, actually. you are making my point. maybe we agree with each other. it's not about the race. it's about the belief. and, of course the tsarnaev brothers i don't even know what their race is i don't care. they acted out of a series of beliefs which are involve tear. >> these things get
conflated socially all the time. >> tucker: i don't know by whom. >> by the media. when someone is not a white christian, right, immediately they are adescribed a motivation simply because of their background, whether it be race or religion or whatever. they are avind a motive and that's not true. when you are white, you are able to have the privilege of acting individually just on your behalf. >> tucker: you just noted. >> you just saw the chief call him -- no, i'm not. you just saw the chief call him disturbed and dangerous in that long press conference. he didn't call him motivated. where have you immediately. >> tucker: wait, slow down. did you watch the press conference? they don't know his motivation. this whole show is about what is his motivation. everyone watching longs to understand why this happened? they are search for one they don't have one. >> that's the point. we are never patient with muslim or arab criminals. we are just not patient with them. >> tucker: when you call 911 and say i'm doing this --
i'm very impatient to know why this guy did. this when you call 911 and say i'm opening fire at a gay nightclub on behalf of alla. when you fly planes and say i'm doing this on behalf move my religion. we don't need to be patient. they told us why they were doing it. >> was dylann roof a terrorist to you. was the shooter at planned parenthood a terrorist to you. they told us clearly why they did what they did. the media did not label them terrorists. >> tucker: i know how are talking about. >> the term gets thrown around so willie nilly, especially against arabs and muslims. that's the point i'm trying to make. >> tucker: then i'm totally happy to do that. i'm really bothered by the intellectual laziness you are displaying conflating race and religion. >> actually, you are not. >> tucker: they are not the same thing. >> if you don't want to understand the way people conflate religion or racialize religion that's some other study that you can do. >> tucker: who are the people? >> the point i'm making. >> tucker: making dumb
generadumbgeneralizations that t rooted in fact. >> media will go out and say arab or muslim shooter has motivation. >> tucker: you haven't given a single example. you are not very effective advocate for your position. i appreciate you coming on. all right. we are out of time. unfortunately, but as we have been saying for the last two days, and as was reconfirmed in the 40-minute press conference we took tonight, for all the detail that we know about how this shooting took place on sunday night, the weapons used, the ammunition, how many rounds, we still don't know the key question, which is why did a 64-year-old retired accountant spend a lot of time and a lot of money to murder an enormous number of strangers? that's not an academic question. we seek to know it both because we seek to prevent it in the future and because to not know it is to be terrified. because it seems random and,
on down to wharton, they say. we can use every hand. >> reporter: martin savidge, thank you very much. and thanks to you for joining us. our breaking news coverage continues now with "ac 360." houston. a week after hurricane harvey came ashore, the reminders that this is not over keep coming and there's a new one that just happened. explosions and a massive fire at the chemical plant 25 miles northeast of houston. it began with flooding, followed by a power outage, and the equipment to keep explosive chemicals cool shut down. early yesterday morning came the first fire. late today, a large explosion, followed by the large fire that has thankfully died down again. for obvious reasons, cnn's brian todd is not here but joins us with the latest. what do we know exactly about this fire? >> reporter: we can tell you that officials have told us for
most of this week they expect that incidents like this to occur and they just posted a statement moments ago saying that the redundant refrigeration systems that cooled those toxic peroxide chemicals that they knew those systems had failed and this was all heatingago, an. they also had an 11-person team
that was there when the hurricane hit friday night. they were there through the weekend and they basically became aware of the fact that this plant was heavily flooded and the cooling systems for those organic peroxide chemicals were going to fail. and they did fail. this is what was expected. the company is treating this as if, look, we all expected this. there are going for more incidents like this. we're just going to let it burn out. >> brian, just to be clear, i know the area has been evacuated, but people seeing this, they hear chemicals and fire, are going to be concerned about the affects of that stuff in the air. >> reporter: absolutely. what is interesting is a couple of days ago, they sent some local deputies to the scene to check things out and make sure people were out of there. some of the deputies were treated for smoke inhalation, but they termed it was not toxic. so they were treated and
released. but you see images like this and you know what's inside that plant and they have to be concerned about a toxic emnation that could affect areas even beyond the 1.5 miles. another fortunate thing, there hasn't been a lot of wind in this area. it's heavy air around houston and points east. so not a lot of wind after the hurricane, so whatever is burning -- >> the company is saying there's no danger from what's going into the air, correct? >> reporter: they have said that. they have not indicated at all there's any danger. now, i have to say also they haven't given a whole lot of other information other than to say we expected this, and we're going to let it burn out. and they at one point did apologize for a lack of information on this thing. but we're not getting a lot of information tonight other than to say they're going to let this burn out. >> brian, i appreciate the
reporting. joining us now is retired general russel honore, who led the military efforts in katrina 12 years ago. when you see a fire like this, it raises concerns but it tells a story of what happens, where there's all these ripple effects and sometimes you can't predict at the outset and a lot of people don't think about it, whether it's beaumont last night running out of drinking water or this fire. >> that's right. you lose control of what's happening. in this particular case, anderson, the company is the main spokesman, opposed to the epa who we pay a lot of money to control this, which is region six out of dallas. they should have a representative there, an incident commander, supervisor. yet we got a french company public affairs officer informing the people of texas what's happening. don't worry about it, be happy.
i get concerned when there's a equal 1.5 mile circumference. because even with little wind, there's a jet stream that will carry that chemical to a certain direction. and that's what the federal government should be telling the people of texas, where is the plume and what direction that chemical is going in once it burns. the easy way to tell it is to see what direction the smoke is going, because it's getting in a jet stream, and it's going somewhere in the four different directions. so if it's concerning, when they talk about toxic, it's toxic, and they operate with an exception to the clean air act. >> in a situation like what we're having is the texas epa?
they're allowed to release certain amount of toxins into the air, because it is a toxic chemical. you heard the public affairs office say earlier, it's relative to concentration and how close you are to it. the sheriffs got sick. >> again, just to tell folks, i believe that's a coast guard helicopter. i see red, so i assume that, passing overhead. it's a common sight even in houston now. even though there's not the same kind of rescues on roof tops we've been seeing and other parts. it's one of the things that surprised me yesterday is how much -- how many air assets are flying over beaumont, port arthur, and how difficult it is -- a lot of it is just the pilots turning around, looking up, looking left and right to know where all the air traffic is. >> a senior army officer once
told me, fly your airplane, son. if the instruments are not working, we had over 200 aircraft in new orleans without instruments, because all the instrumentation was broken until the "iwo jima" got there. this is just good training and a tribute to our pilots who are flying the airplanes. >> and hovering spot on, 150 feet up. incredible. general honore, appreciate it. at this time last night, our gary tuchman wases a baptist hospital in beaumont, and they had begun airlifting patients out because the drinking supply had gone down. the river east of the city was expected to crest only today. today 80 patients were still in the hospital, including 11 preemies in the nic-u.
continue here, another potential threat is over the horizon. hurricane irma has a lot of forecasters watching very carefully. our alison is in the weather center tracking the storm and joins us now. it's a long way off, but what is the latest in terms of strength, location and possible landfall? >> it's now back up to a category 3 storm. it went through a weakening phase, going back to a category 2. but right now where it sits, it went through a eyewall replacement cycle where it's trying to regroup and reintensify, and it did just that. so winds are back at 120 miles per hour, looking like a relatively healthy storm at this point in time. but it's over the middle of the atlantic. no land anywhere in sight. so the question is, where does it go in the short term? it takes a dip to the south and it's going to encounter some
warmer water, allowing the storm to intensify even more, perhaps up to a category 4, if not stronger than this. b this is just what it's going to do in the next five days. >> so where do you see long-term? obviously it's hard to model something this far out. >> right. so after five days, that becomes the big question. we'll take a look at two of our top models. in the short term, the next five to seven days, they really don't vary all that much. it's once we start getting towards the caribbean. that's where you see them spread. this reddish pink color, this is the american model. the european model takes a southerly and west track. this takes it towards florida and the gulf. the american model takes it north and east to the atlantic. this would have a much better
chance impacting the carolina coast or the northeast. but again, we're talking a timeline of next weekend at the earliest. so a lot can change. but it's nice to know what some of the models are happening so we'll have an idea of what to expect. >> yeah. alison, thank you for that. reports of food and water running low in west houston. we'll get a live update on the situation there next. and a lot happening in the white house, including the departure of one of the president's closest aides dating back decades. details next. knowing where you stand has never been easier. except when it comes to retirement. at fidelity, you get a retirement score in just 60 seconds. and we'll help you make decisions for your plan... to keep you on track. it's your retirement. know where you stand.
for a refreshing taste that shines brighter. blue moon. even though some parts of houston are drying out, the situation is getting worse in parts of the city, including west houston where food -- reports of food running low. nick valencia joins us with the latest on that. i understand people are starting to run out of food and water. what are you seeing and are there plans to get supplies to folks there? >> reporter: barker cyrus is still under water a week after hurricane harvey hit here. this situation is almost as desperate as ever. the mayor is telling people to get out while they can, but in some cases they remain stranded. that's why people are taking matters into their own hands. we joined a group of first responderi eers that came here washington, d.c. to help those stranded. one of the people that we saw them rescue on one of the two
rescue missions was an elderly man who was standing at a gas station in flooded water, just aimlessly walking around. he was waiting for help. another person was terry gay, who was running out of food and water. he had been stranded in the apartment complexes back there for over a week. it was just now that he was emerging, because he was running out of su polippliesupplies. anderson? >> if you could have your cameraman push past and show us what's going on. are some of the people who are now leaving, were they trying to ride out the storm? >> reporter: that's right. they're just now coming out. part of what's going on -- steve, if you want to zoom in there -- the rescue missions are wrapping up. this cue of people here, the crowd was swelling, dozens of people were here waiting to try to get back in. part of these civilian boats dipping into this water here,
taking individuals that hadn't been back to their home since hurricane harvey hit, a lot of people hoping they could find medication, documents, important reports, this is the last of what remains of those people hoping to catch a ride. one thing the residents said that we got on that truck, one of if thithe things there's an t going back there accelerating and causing wakes and pushing this flood water to places it hadn't been before. so people who are coming to help in some situations, they're making the situation even more complicated. anderson? >> yeah, i know, from being been on those airboats they kick up a wake. you're seeing people saying slow down. most of the airboat operators are aware of the wake issue and they go through these neighborhoods and try to go through slowly. but they're powerful boats.
that can cause issues. you may have noticed gasoline prices have risen, an average of almost 17 cents a gallon since the storm. texas governor greg abbott tried to reassure texan there is's plenty of gas in the state. so alison, lines were wrong and stations were closed yesterday. has it gotten any better today? >> reporter: it really hasn't. these long lines continue. this line wrapping around the corner. and if you drive around dallas, if you didn't see a line at the gas station, it was probably because the gas station was out of gas. in fact, this one that we're at is almost out of gas completely. it's only got two pumps working. so some of these drivers may be out of luck. one other thing i saw different today, the frustration and the tension building. one driver in a red camaro was waiting, running out of gas, right there in line, and having to push his car to the pump. another driver getting in a
fight with a gas attendant about his place in line. that gas attendant having to spray him with pepper spray just to break up the fight. i shot that with my iphone today. you know, as long as we see these refineries shut down, we'll see these gas supply disruptions. but exacerbating the problem, anderson, is a lot of drivers are feeling panicked. they are feeling the need to fill up their tanks and the canisters. that's really just making the problem worse. anderson? >> you know, we also heard reports, we talked about the rising prices, average of 17 cents. even price gouging in some places. >> reporter: yeah, and prices legitimately are rising because of this supply crunch. but yes, the texas attorney general has said that its office has received hundreds of complaints and phone calls about gas stations around dallas even, gas stations gouging consumers,
charging $6 to $8 a gallon for gas. that's way too much. and these gas stations certainly opening themselves up potentially to some hefty fines. anderson? >> alison, thank you very much. ahead, one woman's homecoming, a lot of people are trying to get back to their homes for first time. we went out with one woman who went to her house by canoe. we'll tell you what she saw ahead. ♪ sailin' away on the crest of a wave, it's like magic ♪ ♪ rollin' and ridin' and slippin' and slidin' ♪ ♪ it's magic introducing the all new volkswagen tiguan. ♪ higher and higher, baby the new king of the concrete jungle.
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knnumerical dimensions of the disaster, just a situation about 70 trillion gallons of rain, or 136,000 homes and buildings flooded, it's a situation unfolding person to person. some of them now just returning home. susan peterson has to use a canoe to get to her house. >> it's probably a quarter of a mile from here. >> she's waited all week for the water to recede, but she can't wait any longer. she needs to see what's happened to her home. she invited us to go with her. the water too deep and dangerous in some spots to walk through. that's quite a current. so this is your house if in her front yard, one of her cars is completely submerged.
only the roof visible. that's one of your cars? >> it's a '91 cavalier. >> from the outside, the house doesn't look too bad. so are there stairs here? >> yeah, there are stairs under here. >> but inside is another story. >> the kid's bedrooms and bathrooms are down the hall. i mean, that was ground level. >> the two lower levels of the house are under water. the garage, her office, and three bedrooms. mold is already visible on the ceiling. susan looks for her four cats, but finds no sign of them. >> guys? >> does it help to see it, or does it -- >> no. i think i probably would have been better waiting till the water was down.
>> after about 15 minutes inside, she decides to leave. she's not sure how to begin to rebuild. she'll come back later with her kids to search for the cats. for susan and so many others here, the difficulty of the days ahead is all too clear. it's overwhelming? >> yes. thank you. thank you. >> well, anyone returning to a flooded home or staying put in one faces a set of potential hazards that most people don't ordinarily plan for, which is why we're glad to have the expertise of dr. david purse, houston ems' director. a lot of folks just like susan are returning to their homes.
there's water in it, they're already seeing mold. what are the potential hazards? what should people do? >> one thing to worry about is what's in the water or what's not in the water. if there's a missing manhole company. so i warn people walking through the water. >> even if it seems shallow, if there's a drainage ditch that's open and you can't see it. >> right, if it's just a couple feet deep, especially if there's a drainage port there, there could be a tremendous force of water that could suck you in. >> it seemed really calm while canoeing, then we were in the turnlt and got pushed. >> there's a lot of dangers people can't see. those are the physical dangers, much less the chemicals and organisms we worry about. >> inside a house, mold. we were talking before, there's a lot of different kinds of mold. >> right, right. >> what do people do? >> well, there's lots of different mold, but you can't tell the good mold.
there's no such thing as a good mold. there's not bad and bad. but everything is wet, you just got to get rid of it. carpeting, bedding, that all needs to go. >> dry wall. >> dry wall. and wherever the water needs to one cup of bleach to one gallon or stronger.
but there's a couple of gallons and people want to make it stretch. so that's the minimum concentration. >> for the longer the water stays in a house, the more difficult it is to deal with it afterwards. >> this it doesn't take long for it to develop. >> that is just from the rain that came in through the roof. >> that's right. there's going to be a lot of getting rid of the mold, not just cleaning. >> just in terms of, you know, sort of -- some people try to live in the house because there's just water is in the first floor. is that a wise idea? >> i would recommend against it. your homes are really dirty, and there's all -- you have power in the house that still has water in it, everybody knows that's dangerous. so recommend people to get alternative housing. the city has programs to help with that.
but especially a house that still has water in it, not a good idea. >> i really appreciate it, doctor. much more on hurricane harvey when we come back. but first, news out of washington, d.c. cnn has learned that robert mueller now has a key piece of evidence that gives an idea why president trump fired his fbi director. that's next. hundreds of dollars on youmy car insurance. saved me huh. i should take a closer look at geico... (dog panting) geico has a 97% customer satisfaction rating! and fast and friendly claims service. speaking of service? oooo, just out. it was in. out. in! out. in! what about now? that was our only shuttlecock. take a closer look at geico. great savings. and a whole lot more.
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we're going to come back to hurricane harvey shortly. but first, there's new reporting from "the washington post" and "the new york times" that robert mueller has an early draft of the letter president trump wrote with aide teach miller that laid out why president trump wanted to fire jim comey. the white house counsel cautioned against sending that version, because the contents could be problematic. and one of president trump's longest serving aides keith schiller is leaving the white house. cnn broke that news after serving as president trump's right hand made for two decades, schiller is leaving. i want to break this all town
with dana bash, david gergen, and jonathan turley. dana, multiple reports on this draft letter. how much does this ratchet up questions about the special counsel investigation, the extent to which the white house could have some explaining to do? >> i'm not sure how much it ratchets it up, but for those of us not only the inside, it gives a little more of a window into what the special counsel is working on, which is a big danger zone for this white house and this president. because the notion of getting this letter, the content of this letter suggests that the inquiry is, at least in part, looking at obstruction of justice. the reasons for firing james comey, what were the president's bases for it, and the idea that this letter was written, according to this report and cnn has confirmed it, was not
comfortable with the kind of apparently the rambling explanation that the president and steven miller initially put forward, which suggested maybe in a more -- in a too honest of a way that it was about the russia investigation. >> professor turley, the caveat how it was created. it was remarkly cautious. you shouldn't be looking for catharsis by spinning off this
to a guy you just fired. i'm sure the white house counsel was dead set against it, as has been reported. there's issues of privilege. there's issues of being cautious. but it may be valuable. it may also exonerate the president. the account indicates he talked about comey's mistakes during the clinton e-mail investigation and there is one reference to the russia investigation. those motivations are not going to make for a strong obstruction case. >> right. david, the other thing is if this draft letter contradicts the president's actual termination letter of james comey, about the russia case playing a role in the firing, that would be another sort of angle to this. >> well, i think that's right. listen, we need to be cautious. we don't know what's in the letter. we shouldn't over interpret it.
but it does raise questions whether mueller will find it helpful if he wants to find a case about obstruction of justice, if there are revelations about what the president's true intent was, and the president's obsession with comey and why he wants to shut it down. if these the case, i think it could be -- as i say, it could add weight to a case against the president. but professor turley is right, it's possible it could exonerate. we have to wait and see. but you would think that the white house counsel, having objected to the letter, wouldn't destroy it. i don't understand. >> that's the interesting thing, this is the first we've heard from the white house counsel. it's like getting a radio signal from unoccupied space. until now, we haven't seen any evidence of lawyering or a lawyer's presence in these early days. it does appear the white house counsel reached a point where he drew a line. >> but remember, anderson, cnn
reported -- we reported a month and a half ago or so that this special counsel's office was very clear in a notice to the white house counsel that they must not destroy anything. that they must keep everything and turn everything over. you know that's standard operating procedure. and perhaps at that time, you know, it was too late to destroy it. >> it violates federal law. >> exactly. or john mcgann is doing what he is supposed to do, and that's not destroy documents. so let's be glad he didn't destroy it. >> it is the first time we've heard steven miller's name mentioned as part of any kind of russia investigation. >> it is. and i think that this really does give another window into more of the politics and the personnel and the disagreements
that we reported, some of real time when comey was fired. and this suggests that steven miller, who was with the president in bedminster at his resort there the weekend he decided to firecomey, was on the fire of siding comey. wrast others were very much against it. and there was a big clash. we know who won out, that was steven miller and jared kushner. but the fact that he was involved is not great news for steven miller, because it means that he hasn't already gotten a lawyer, he will have to get one now and he will be asked to come to the committees on capitol hill, in addition to appear before the special counsel's office. >> yeah, professor turley, he could be subpoenaed, correct? >> he can. that issue was litigated during the clinton impeachment.
i litigated that with ken starr. these privilege issues went to court, and the clinton white house lost. an attorney who argued attorney-client privilege laws. but they lost across the board, even with a secret service agent. so yes, he can be forced into a grand jury. one of the benefits of the president bringing in private counsel is that they may have a privilege that government counsel would not. >> david, keith schiller who worked with the trump organization before going to the white house, is reportedly telling people he's leaving the administration for financial reasons. the white house denies this. but if it's true, it's another departure of a close aide at a time when the president is being more and more isolated. >> that's right. that's why when we at cnn heard this and got the information and
reported it, we thought it was significant. this isn't just that your typical director of white house operations, this is somebody who has been by the president's side for decades. it was his bodyguard in the private sector and on the campaign and now in the white house. and has become a very close confidant. you nailed it, anderson. the idea at this point in time that someone like keith schiller leaving the president's side at this point in time when the channels of communications the president has are very limited because that is what the white house chief of staff is doing, trying to make order in a chaotic atmosphere, may not be so good for the president's psyche at this time. >> you know, president trump is going to be traveling back to texas tomorrow and will visit houston, which he didn't do tuesday because operations were still in the thick of things, as well as lake charles, louisiana. the president is going to meet
with storm survivors and volunteers. there's a lot of news about his promise to donate $1 million. today, sarah huckabee sanders couldn't answer whether the money would come from the president personally or the foundation. that foundation has come under scrutiny before on allegations that it don't come through with promises before. dana, again to you, this is a continuation of something that has been reported on a lot, a lot of reporting on the charities that donald trump has given to over the years, and sort of how that money often seems to come from other people's foundations going to the donald trump foundation, that's then forwarded on. >> that's right. the white house today said this
was a pledge and didn't have in answers where the money would come from. because of that reporting, there's a history in that it everybody is on it to see when and if the president did z pledge the million dollars. hopefully it will happen soon and noncontroversial because the people could sure use it. >> and dana bash, george, and thank you very much. a lot more reporting on how many million dollars jj watt's fundraiser has raised and what one celebrity chef is doing to feed hurricane evacuees. estry. my ancestry dna results are that i am 26% nigerian. i am just trying to learn as much as i can about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it's a hat, but it's like the most
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breaking news in the fundraising effort for harvey relief. michael dell founder of the computer announced the rebuild texas fund, he pledged $36 million toward it. $36 million. mr. dell and his wife issue aid statement saying the money will come from their foundation and countless volunteers have stepped up. among them j.j. watt who launched an online fundraiser and going for $200,000 and i spoke to him last night when i talked to him, his fund raised more than $12 million. 24 hours later, and now the number is up to $16 million. and incredible. last night i spoke to j.j. watt about what he is doing. >> first of all, when you see a neighborhood like this, what goes through your mind? >> devastating. i think that is the only word that you could describe when you drive through the city and the floods and what you see on tv, it is the only word you could use. and inspiring is the next thing that comes to mind.
>> because of what you are seeing. >> because of the police men and firemen and the helicopters and what people do when they come together in a time like this and that is the most inspiring. >> and do you have a goal. is it open-ended. >> this weekend my teammates and i have semi-trucks rolling in and we have nine sem dwri trucks coming in town with supplies sh water, food clothing and everything. so we're going to give that out this weekend. that is the first step. and then i want to regroup after this weekend because like i said, i was planning for 200,000 and now with a new plan for multi-millions, i'm going to make sure i get with the people that learned from katrina so that coy make sure i do it right. because with these people trusting me with their money i don't want to do it haste illy, do it exactly the right way. >> do you think you would see a response like this. you wonder what would happen if i lived through something like this. do you think you would see people come together like this. >> i hope so. but to see it coming to a reality is a whole different ball game and it is so sweet and beautiful to watch.
you see lines of volunteers where you are like is that a line for the food or is that a line and then all of a sudden it is a line of volunteers and it is so special when you have that many people wanting to help and that many people giving what they can. >> and by the way, i was squatting down during that interview which is why i look to tiny standing next to him. sadly that is not the case. i was trying to look at tall as possible but he is huge. meet jose andress, one of the great chefs of the world and started a nonprofit called world central kitchen and i worked with him in haiti and he responded to a lot of disasters in a lot of different places. what, a., brought you down here this time and what you've seen. >> well, i'm one more guy that when you watch on tv what is -- what is happening, and especially when you know what is about to happen, that you are -- your body is telling me, i have to get ready and go down to help. and every single person in houston ready to help.
and especially my fellow cooks. my fellow chefs. >> that is so interesting. because people help in whatever ways they can. some people it is in a boat. for a chef, you know food and that is what you are focused on. >> and like this guy. edward dela garza at the convention center. it is one guy that nobody knows but he is in charge of feeding the over 10,000 people that arrived at the convention center. >> every single day. >> every single day. or example, the restaurant in reef where his wife and the chef brian casswell, they closed the restaurant and they are doing thousands of meals every day. calling every single chef to help and every single food company to help and donate. and in talking to red cross in -- where do we need help. who needs to be fed and start reacting to any problem that they may happen. >> people don't think about the food needs. and not because -- it is not just the immediate food needs but it is -- there is people who are still leaving their homes because they've tried to ride it
out and now the water is still there and be there for maybe days or weeks. >> so there you have great stories. one of the stories that america is not very aware of, that i'm fascinated with, is the southern baptist church, they have like 17 chapters. and these men and women ready to feed people after an earthquake, or any issue that may happen. a hurricane in this case. >> and we are not talking about feeding kits. >> 25,000 people a day. today they are behind the convention under the highway. and you see there men and women retired and many of them 70 and 80-year-old and working 12 hours a day feeding everybody in need. every time there is a hurricane. southe southern baptist church is there. this is story to be told because they are the real heros and america needs to beware. >> we were in haiti and you worked there focusing on food and women's health issue and i
don't like to compare one disaster to another, how does this compare to others you've seen. >> i've been in two hurricanes already in haiti. and here in the states i've been part of sandy and now watching what is happening here. it is kind of very different. for obvious reasons. red cross, they work unbelievably well overseas an america should be proud of the help they give overseas. but in america we are learning. we remember what happened in katrina, the superdome compared to what is happening here in the convention center. i would say the convention center is happened very well and you see police and doctors and food. so i think the learning curve is there but it is obviously room for growth and for learning. so next time something like this happens, we are ready to be -- for example, feeding everybody in the right way. >> i know you've had a long day and a lot of kitchens. >> more to cook tomorrow. >> jose, thank you. >> god bless you. >> breaking news at the top of
where we're at, we're looking at four to five days. so, i know that sounds troublesome but it's important that we dot the i's and cross the t's as far as evidentiary and possible prosecution if the future. injuries, injury number that we are using today, 489. of that 489, 317 has been discharged from the hospital. so the question is, sheriff, you provided several different numbers associated with that all the way up to 527. now, you got to imagine, we're dispersed across several hospitals, relying on intelligent communication of the hospitals to provide us accurate numbers so that's ever changing. in addition hospitals received patients outside of this event. so quite often, or hopefully not quite often, but often some of those patients were double counted or misconstrued as event
injuries versus other injuries such as car accidents. so today i'm comfortable in saying the injured number is 489. deaths still remain at 59. i told you 59 before, plus one, about suspect, that changed. today it's 58, plus one, the suspect, 59. it's the same reason that occurred before as i explained. so hope you understand that. nobody wants that number to go up, and by the grace of god it went down. so, that's a good thing. so, today i'll provide you updates on our investigation of the mass shootings. more than 100 investigators spent the last 72 hours combing through the life of 64-year-old stephen paddock. to produce a profile on someone aisle call disturbed and
dangerous. stephen paddock is a man who spent decades requiring weapons and ammo and lived a secret life, much of cll never be fully understood. and planned on the worst massive attack in united states history. as many reported paddock rented a room at the hotel in downtown las vegas, this has been confirmed. okay. reasons that ran through paddock's mind is unknown but it was directly during -- as life is beautiful. we have received and recovered evidence from that location, we don't know if it is evidence but we have recovered items in video evidence. you know what, i'm using the wrong term, evidence is not the term, we have recovered video from there to review mr. paddock's actions while he was there. it's important for you to
understand, the rooms were not rented by the ogden, it was done through airbnb by a private owner unknown to the ogden. so, we have very great cooperation from the owners of life is beautiful, and the ogden and their cooperation. okay, while we have already spoken many people had tact with stephen pad docs at hotels and places he frequented in, we still have more interviews to conduct. since monday, there have been many questions for us to release a timeline and today we have one. i want to point out the information previously reported on the first shot was based on a cad report, a computer aided dispatch. so that report is dependant on whose the particular person calling in and that time stamp. what we have done through the
review of body-worn cameras we were able to pull it back to previously from 10:08 to 10:05. so carlos, so i'm going to give you a cans to review that, take photographs of it, and i'll walk you through each timeline. so, at 10:05 the first shots fired by the suspect this was seen on close circuit television from the concert venue. 10:12 first two officers arrived on the first floor and reported fire coming from directly above them. 10:13 shots fired by the suspect on body worn camera. 10:17 the first two officers arrived on the second floor. 10:18 squaurt officer tells the offers he was shot and given exact location of the suspect's
room. now you'll notice a minute, delta there before they broadcasts and obviously they were in a conversation with the security guard immediately upon them meeting at the elevators. between 10:26 and 10:30 eight additional officers arrived on the 32nd floor clearing the hall ways and look for individual people. they moved this way because they no longer heard active gun shots. 10:55 eight officers arrived in the stair well-at the opposite end of the hallway near the suspect's room. so near the suspect's room you can imagine the hotel room, this doorway and stairwell pretty two to 3 feet away. 11:20 the breach was set off and officers entered the suspect's room and saw the suspect down.
so it's a suite. and we have -- there's a main area of the suite which is the living room, kitchen dine net area and on the opposite end of that, two bedrooms. i'm sorry where did i leave off? something yell it out. >> 11:20. >> okay so if you do the math on that all the way up to is 1:20 from 10:05 we're looking at 75 minutes. so, young lady here in the front with the red phone, you mentioned 72 minutes so now you see where those minutes came from. 11:27 the second breach set off allowing offices to access the second room and no one else was located within the hotel room. okay, these are following ex tin waiting circumstances as to why we may have appeared, there was some delay or some undue delay
in reaching the suspect. the officer in the first strike team reached the 32nd floor within 12 minutes which is phenomenal of the first shots being fired. with the officer rived and confirmed the location of the suspect's room the gunfire stopped. in accordance with their training the officers received a master key card from the security guard and began to clear each hotel room. so imagine the elevated bank in the center, 150 feet down on a try plex hotel was the suspect's room. so there are several rooms along the way. no fire was occurring, they could not hear additional fire, they believe it was important to evacuate in case the suspect was barricaded. the first strike team did this. the second team made up of two cay canine personnel squat
offers and patrol officers carrying large bags and technical equipment and carrying rifles ford to have a closer location to the suspect's room. they attempted to secure the front doorway of the suspect's room. as they entered into the hallway they received the room service card and appeared on the room service card were cameras. so, they pulled back and waited for the approach of a full swat team. keep in mind, this delay was not undue, it was purposeful and no shots were being heard by the suspect at this point. eventually a plan was formulated, entry was made. suspect was seen laying on the ground. they encountered a closed bedroom door, which was locked and they breached that door,
additionally found no other suspect. another investigate issue was cameras. question was presented by cameras and were they recording. we determined none of the cameras were recording. there were two cameras on the room service cart on the hallway, one on the peephole of the front door and additionally there was a baby monitor camera placed in the general family area of the hotel room. none of them were being recorded. one thing i left out was the initial approach and they looked out in the hallway when they observed the cameras on the room service cart. it was obviously there were several rounds discharged through the door and through the blast of the bullets through the door, you could actually see a weapon through those openings if the door but no suspect was seen. those rounds were the rounds that he put through the door in order to shoot at the security
guard. okay, the other thing i wanted to update you on is the search warrant of the suspect's vehicle located at the mandalay bay. i have presented that plaintiffs ammonium nitrate recovered but several cases within the car that had not been searched yet. at the last briefing i provided with you. so within those cases there was ten, one pound containers of tahn rite, two pounds of tan rite and twl 1600 rounds of ammunition. so, carlos can you put up the numbers. so this is an ongoing investigation, we can never not have enough information because we are continuing to run down
leads. it's important for us to get all the information we can on mr. paddock. because right now we're trying to prove his intent. our understanding of his intent and the history associated with this and whether or not he has any accomplices. so, we ask people to still call into 311, if you're out of state 702-8311. and the fbi and that is ininvestigate and for also electronic media. if you're able to call them they'll provide you the ability to download that online into their system. so at this point, i will provide you essential agent in charge, aaron rous and he will walk you through some of the investigate steps we have accomplished jointly and we'll react in that total investigation. subsequent that i'll come back to this podium for any q & a and
personnel from across the nation to assist the las vegas division in this investigation. this includes witness assistance, the aep counsellors, evidence technicians and technical assets. not to mention additional agencies to help cover leads. the information the public will provide discuss going to help solve this. we must focus on facts, we cannot give into conjecture and we cannot respond to every little twitter feed that may indicate a theory. we need to focus on the fact, you need us and expect us to be right and we want to be right. there's going to be questions, i'm sure goiyou're going to hav questions about people we've been talking to, maybe people outside of the united states. the fundamental trust of the american people and the fbi is based upon our discretion, and how good would that discretion
be if we were to provide information that they provided to us in confidence. this is about informing on an investigation, this is about resolving an investigation, so spevgs regarding any individual contact cannot be answered. you need us, you trust us, and the way we have that trust is by using good discretion about what we share. additionally, we have multiple leads on across the united states and all across the world for our legal industries determining the whereabouts of the panel of the people involved in this investigation, and that leads grows. a lot of these leads will go nowhere but we have to follow them, and that'll take some time. patience are going to be needed from all of us. we're all interested in the same thing, resolving this issue fairly and factually.
with that, i'll turn it back over to the sheriff. >> okay, happy to answer questions. and please provide some decorum. >> sheriff. >> yes, sir. >> we know you have an opportunity to -- we know that -- we know that you had access to his computers, symphonies a symphony cell phones and so forth. while you're not able to tell us specifically what you found. let me ask a ygeneral question. through all that information, is there anything that gives you a sense as to what was going on with this man? without saying what it is. are you seeing anything that gives you a direction or any kind of an answer to that question? >> globally no. i'm sorry to report, no. me personally, but i'm not privy
obtained to today. mr. rous could probably give you better clarification to that, i haven't been briefed by the fbi on that interview as of yet. what was the other question sir? >> you said you're still trying to figure out whether he had any accomplices. >> right. we're obviously going through that. it's troublesome this individual was able to move this amount of gear into a hotel room unassisted. it's troublesome for the amount of stuff he had at both residences unassisted. there's people that know this individual, there's people that can help us understand this individual, because, you know, interesting enough i read a periodical earlier today, it was an fbi profiler that didn't understand this individual. usually there's telltale signs associated with these type of actions, reclusive, a plethora
of thing associated with this mind set and we have not found that yet. so what could be more brshl than to fine people who are associated with him either by friendship or accomplice and for us to determine that. >> thank you. >> sheriff. >> yes, sir. >> two questions. first you mention in your comments he had a secret life. what do you mind by that? >> well, most of us -- not most of us, i don't, i don't live through social plead ya. there's a lot of us that live through social media in today's world. there's a lot of people that are interactive in the public, there's a lot of people that have workweeks. this individual was retired. he found out he had real estate investments, relationship wise it's hard to determine what has occurred if his life in the last decade or so. we do know he has an ex-wife. she didn't lead us to any knowledge. everybody knows we talked to his brother, no knowledge was
obtained. so anything that would indicate this individual's trigger point, and that would cause him to do such harm, we haven't understood it yet. i think it's important for us to get to there. and you have to be patient with us because this premeditation of this, this is well-thought out. so don't you think the concealment of his history and life was well-thought out? it's becoming upon us as professionals to figure that out. >> and then besides what he did, that his or her risk act, are there any other signs of a mental break down? >> i'm not aware. i personally have not been briefed on some of these personal background, i'm leaving that to the experts. i haven't been updated on that yet. so, it's going to be frustrating for you observeviously, but you
to remember, i've said it 100 times, this is an investigation and we can't be delayed by providing information that will delay our information or causing an individual to go underground. you know all that, everybody here sitting know that, and i need you to understand. okay, it's important for you to convey to the public we're doing everything we can do to bring this to fruition. i think we are doing that and i ask you for your patience. >> sheriff within the course of your investigation you discovered perhaps he might have been targeting another concert the week before? >> yeah i mentioned he had obtained a room at the ogden which is located downtown and at the same time life is beautiful was being conducted. was he doing presurveillance we don't know yet, this is all conjecture at this point. that's why it's important for us to have boots on the ground. >> sheriff, on the shatairwell
there's information out there the door to the stairwell of the 32nd floor was barricaded or possibly welded shut. can you tell us if it was -- >> it was not welded shut but it was secured. >> sheriff can you tell us -- >> as of yet no. we haven't been able to determine if there's been anybody else in that room besides him. >> tan rite in the car does that lead to he might have been planning a bigger attack? >> speculation, i'll leave that to your own free will. it remained in the car for some reason. >> is there an estimate of how many round he fired and how many rounds he didn't fire found in the room? >> no. i'll give you my personal preview, that'll come out in the public space, no. rounds haven't been counted yet. there's a lot of evidentiary
recover systems that have been taken place prior to recovery in the round. there was well in excess thousands of rounds in the room. >> sheriff, in the photos there was appeared to be a yellow note. can you tell us about that? >> no, i can't recall. >> a suicide note or anything? >> no no it wasn't. i'm comfortable in saying that. >> sheriff, where is -- now and is he still a person of interest. >> everything to do with marilou i'll have sergeant rous address that. okay any more questions on that, we can circle back on that? >> -- >> we'll circle back on that. you guys want to know how i know her name? she was eating lunch to me yesterday and introduced herself. >> sheriff, do you know what
caused the inception? >> very good question, no i do not know. i don't know if -- this is my assumption, only my assumption and phone's been able to spell my assumption as of today, i believe because of his counter measur measures placed in the peephole and the hallway he observed the security guard and he was if fear he was about to be breached. he was doing everything possible to see how he could escape at this point. his concern was personal concerns versus what was occurring down below. >> can you talk to about what time he shot himself and can you tell us when -- >> you know i can't answer that question. that's the question that's been presented and we haven't been through the internal investigation of that to pinpoint exactly if it was heard wen he shot himself or did it occur in close proximity of entry. because you imagine when they
breach it had door they used explosive devices, so did it occur in proximity of that explosive device and we lost it in audible or did it occur when we were trying to set up our team in the hallway. >> do you have a security guard separated from the other officers? >> it was my understanding he had gotten separated -- that was inaccurate. he was conducting an investigation based on customers calling in and he was personally attempting to locate what was occurring. he happened upon that doorway because it was ajar, which keyed his interest. but our officers from close proximity saw, as you can imagine the timeline there. as soon as they came out of the doorway in the elevator he was there, so it happened in a matter of seconds. hold on let me finish here. >> can you tell if there was a note -- >> what note the yellow paper.
>> yes? >> i don't know. i did a cursory review of the room but i haven't been provided that information. i know it was not a suicide note. >> sheriff -- >> yes, sir. >> do you believe le saw the security guard approaching and it caused him to stop shooting. if he haven't seen the security guard approaching do you believe he would have shop shooting? >> no. and i'm comfortable and n saying that. we had knowledge he was between 31 and 32, remember when you asked before we said 29 and 32, and through that time it got called down to 31, 32, a knowledgeable customer, prior military said it was occurring directly above him, which subsequently the officers were doing their own checks, he was not aware of what that customer said and they were conducting he was trying to pinpoint.
so our officer learned, because they had a security guard attached to them that they had recent information the individual was on 32. okay, so they would have encountered him shortly in that timeline, maybe 60 seconds. and i would assume the same thing would have occurred. >> sheriff we asked about you wen he stopped firing and why. [ inaudible question ] based on the assessment of the weapons he was there and using and access to, are any of these weapons jammed or inoperable or could he was continued firing without any possibles if he had not -- >> he could have continued firing. some of them were jammed but he could have continued firing. >> some were jammed how many? >> i don't know the number by some. he had plenty of fire power. >> do you havefully idea
again -- >> if you recall there were 23 weapons recovered. >> one last question on the weapons. this guy had a -- and about 500, 800 yards -- how many of these weapons he was using firing with advance optics on -- >> just from my visual preview of the crime scene i saw at least three scopes. most of them didn't have any. sfla snauk. [ inaudible question ] >> no from what i know they seemed to be regular scopes. >> sheriff was the security officers armed. >> i don't know about the mandalay bay, some are armed some are not. i don't know the profile at the
mandalay but i don't know if he was armed. his bravery was amazing because he remained with our officers providing them the key pass to access the door and continued to help them clear rooms until our officer demanded he seek medical attention. >> while injured? >> yes. >> sheriff, before the shooting we've heard someone say gambling, do you know? >> we are aware he was gamble. >> for hours? >> i don't know but we are aware he was gamble. >> sergeant -- >> so reference, let me provide some clarification because t answer one of the other questions on accomplice. we did see he was gambling but we didn't see any other individual that appeared to be with him. >> what about was that? >> i don't recall ma'am. >> sheriff, are you looking into the possibility that there mav some kind of a mentally issue,
something that happened in october of 2016 that compelled him to purchase those weapons if. >> yes. >> you are? >> yes. >> what have you uncovered? >> i haven't i don't have the information. but we are looking. >> you suggested that after he saw the security guard his concern became himself, did you see any evidence that he planned to survive this or try to escape? >> yes. >> what's that? >> i can't tell you. >> sir, just to clarify, the security guards and the officers came up that identified his location -- >> i'm sorry start over. >> the security guard or your officers arriving that positively identified the location first? >> it was the security guard. the officers had knowledge that it was on the 323 nd floor. it assumed it was at the end of the hallway because a customer called it was directly above
lim. the security guard confirmed it prior to their arrival. >> can you say in detail the magnitude of the gunfire he encountered -- >> well over 200 rounds. >> sheriff can you -- >> so it's amazing that that security guard didn't sustain additional injury. >> sheriff you excellented you believe you had a plan -- what have you determined that could have given you -- elscape line - >> that's just a different way of asking the same question. i can't answer that for you. >> sheriff did the officers fire back at all. >> no. >> slheriff you mentioned accomplices. we've talked previously about a person of interest. are there any other person of interest in this investigation? >> well, is there any other no. concrete, no. we're looking at it this way,
ken, is there another one, no. we're determined to find out if there was. i mean, it's important not to close this case until we run down everything. >> should we ask the terrorist question -- >> because look at this. you look at the weapon obtaining the different amounts of tannerite available, do you think this was all accomplished on his own, face value? you got to make the asubject he had to have help at some point, and we want to ensure that's the answer. maybe he's a super guy, super hero -- not a hero, super -- i won't use the word. maybe she's super -- that was working out this out on his own but it will be hard for me to believe that. >> and to that do we need to ask -- >> here's the reason why, put one and oning to, two and two
together, another residence in reno with firearms, okay, electronics and everything else associated with larger amounts of ammo, a place in mesquite, we know he had a girlfriend. do you think this is all self-facing individual without talking to somebody, it was sequestered amongst himself. come on focus folks these type of investigations have been occurring in the last few years and we have to investigate that. so hold off, i'm down. what i want you to do is give rous an opportunity to talk about marilou, he may not have anything for you but i think it's fair to ask him and then i'd like to get to the senator and commission ner. >> the car was. [ inaudible question ] >> i'm sorry? >> was the car planted to -- >> don't ask me to make assumptions, please.
>> thank you. >> ken. >> you were asking where is marilou now and is she still a person of interest in this investigation? >> as i mentioned in my comments, you know, people rely on our us for discretion. if someone is assisting us in an investigation and being cooperative, that's between us and them. giving away the location of a citizen or somebody that is cooperating with us, is not in our best interest, not in that person's best interest, so there's a matter of their business, i'm not going to excellent on that. >> she's not in federal custody? >> we have no one in custody. >> special agent rous. if i can ask the same question, without saying anything specific, in seeing his computers and speaking to marilou, do you havefully direction or any sense as to
what may have been a motivate? any sense, anything? >> so, as i mentioned we like to deal with facts. theer ryes are great, but i like to deal with facts. that's what we're going to focus on. there are a number of working theories out there and we're going to use those but not publicize them because they're not fair to everybody. we want to make sure what we have is accurate and you want us to be accurate. >> sir -- >> we have found no evidence to this point to indicate terrorism. but this is an ongoing investigation, we're going to continue to look at all avenues. we're not closing downy doors. the best way to do an investigation is that you don't go in with assumptions, he's not going to make assumptions, i'm not going to make any assumptions. we're going in there following
the facts, the facts will always lead you to your conclusion. we hope very much so to be able to provide concrete information to the public about why this happened, because that's what's on everyone's mind. to understand the why helps you deal with the tragedy we've all faced and we've all faced it. so, believe me we want to know why. >> okay, i want to take this time to give the commissioner an opportunity to say a few words. >> thank you. i'm going to say some things that the sheriff didn't say. whether y when you see these men and women in uniforms, and a lot of meant and women that don't wear uniforms uh-huh you got to tell them thank you. i've dealt with these folks, working with them for the last three days, they're working on zero sleep, i beg of you to show some patience. identify heard the same question
asked three, four, five times in different ways, they're not speculating, there's no conjecture here, they're not dealing with theories they're dealing with facts. their primary purpose and their goal is to conclude this investigation in a professional and accurate manner and i'm totally confident they're going to do that. they're protecting the citizens of clarke crow and the tourists tar here. they have made the place safe again. i implore you please, please slow some patience and understand they're not going to deal with conjecture and theories coming up on social ple media. thank you very much. >> my words and comments are similar to what commissioner just said in the important of patience. this horrific incident is less than 72 hours old. the reason i come to the
briefings and press conference is to listen to sheriff and learn bit by bit what happened just a little while ago. what i want to express is my gratitude to the sheriff and etf and everybody keeping us up to date on what is going on. i also want to say how grateful i am that the president of the united states came in and expressed his sincere concerned for the community and understand what this means. identify had a rare occasion to be at 30,000 feet in a couple of hours face time with this president and we talked specifically about the heroes, individuals, deputies, first responders and all that and what they were able to achieve in a very short period of time. in my cell phone here i have numerous pictures and survivors from ufc and i shared the pictures with the president of the united states so he could see what happened occurred.
one was a deputy, second day on the job, his father was at the event as a spectator when the shooting occurred, got hit in the arm and went to his chest. his name is brady cook. i shared this story with the president, president went up to the fifth floor of the unc and had an opportunity to talk to this young plan and express his sincere gratitude for his strengths. i also showed him a picture of a cell phone, an apple phone that had a bullet through it, it was a therapist over at u flrks c. that bullet went through her phone and hit her hand. she just had tissue damage, she fixed it herself. went back to unc and spent hours helping those that had come into the hospital. these stories were important for me to share with the president of the united states as he was coming into this valley and understanding the depth of the
issue we had on hand. it wasn't just that i also lobbied him on a couple of issues, one has to do with terrorist. now i didn't lobby the president because it was important to me, i asked the governor what should i talk to him about. i asked the mayor what do you want me to talk to the president about. and it had to do with this terrorist funds that come out of homeland security. and how important it is that las vegas, the strip has the funding necessary to keep not only citizens safe, but also those who are visiting this city. it's not enough we have 42 million people that come in every year to visit and i want to make sure las vegas has the terrorist funding necessary to keep us safe, to buy the equipment they feed to be able to monitor and be able to follow up on the issues they're faced with on a day-to-day basis. my gratitude continues from
everybody around the country. about 15 seconds ago i was sitting right behind her, a cab driver that i used in new york city sent me a text, we game friends on a ride but his message was senator, myself, my family and all my drivers wanted to express my condolences of those touched by the weekend shooters. all our best. the cab driver from new york concerned about las vegas valley. i am grateful for all my colleagues back in washington, d.c. grateful for the sheriff, fbi, atf, all that's being done. thank you very much for being here today. >> all right, that will conclude today's press conference. so, as a matter of moving forward i can't give you a definitive time for tomorrow. i anticipate these press coverag conferences will stay at a maximum once a day because leads
are changing that fast for us to address this group. the one thing i wanted to talk to each and every of you in this room, thank you. thank you very much. you have been very professional, you have not been overwhelming and i appreciate your candor and your ability to express exactly what occurred in the las vegas valley. so, thank you and hopefully you have a great night. thank you. new details tonight from las vegas, authorities just heard sheriff lombardo, he said the gunman had to have some help doing what he did. new time line, first one fired 10 o5:00 first breach of his room an hour and 15 minutes later. i'm here with former assistant director service, and law enforcement experts is with us as well. art, in terms of what you heard,
a lot of information in in the just the timeline but the idea this guy was thinking about trying to have an escape plan. >> yeah that was the first time we heard this. it's also concerning what with he had in his vehicle. he had explosives in his vehicle, it would have been set off at any given point. this plan of escape opens us up a lot wider. the explosives in the vehicle are very concerning. >> also by the way, phil mud is with us, david simon. phil it's interesting seeing that timeline, you get more and more of a sense, you heard for that long for them to breach the door. the shooting only went on for ten minutes. they were able to get up to that floor and they found a security guard that had been shot, it seemed like from the timeline, it was the shooting of that
security guard from the hotel that redirected his attention to the possibility his room was going to be breached and stopped him from firing any more out the window. >> it did. it broke the scenario. the fact that law enforcement could ascertain from when the first shot was fired and began making it to the floor and intervene in ten minutes. >> it's incredible. >> it is incredible. >> whether you look, it's blocks away, it's too small windows on the 32nd floor, i assume some officers saw a muzzle flashing and that's the way they figured it out. it was only that amount of time i think it's remarkable. >> it's dark, there are tens of thousands of people that are about. you don't get a sflar owe as you have a sniper shooting down. >> terror watchtower. >> but in ten minutes they
figured it out. >> phil mud what stood out of this press conference? >> whether you look at the character risks -- going to the house, going to the hotel room, we have a lot of information about that. how they breach it had location, how many weapons and rounds were found. the two basics elements we want to understand, what kind of digital information do we have, how do we exploit it, phones and things like laptop, that's typically in the fbi inbox, zero. we got nothing on that today, as you'd expect 72 hours into that. the second thing would be people, interviews. there was a suggestion in there by both the sheriff and the fbi that some of the interviews are cooperative, people are providing information. maybe including the woman who was the girlfriend of the shooter. mentioned, she's not in custody and talked about not wanting to
disclose her location because one would not want to talk about someone whose cooperating. that to me is important. whether you have people that's -- that could cut to case to motivates. those two areas, digital communication and interviews. and it was >> the sheriff talked about kind of a secret life this person had. i don't know if that's based on particular information, to phil's point that they have learned. but also that he had rented out a room, i guess it was the week before, at a prior music festival. >> that's right. so this is just consistent with there was a lot of planning. perhaps he even had a different target in mind at one stage but preferred having the elevated view over the concert. when you look at this press conference, i think there was sort of clear tension or at least sort of the sheriff wanting to sort of give more
information, the fbi essentially standing up there saying, only the facts, only the facts. something the sheriff said that we've been talking about the last two days, he finds it inconceivable that something like this could have been planned for so long and that he was unassisted. those are his exact words. do you think heck do this unassisted? and so that does make me think that these interviews are leading to questions about if others knew, coconspirators, with the girlfriend, she may be cooperating now, she may not be cooperating later. she may constructively have knowledge that something was happening but not until she sort of pierces her own memory, realized that was what in fact was being planned. so these investigations will take a long time. definitely the sheriff has a theory of the case, so this investigation is going to move forward. >> phil mudd, to you the idea of the explosive left in the
vehicle, and based on what the sheriff said does it seem to you that there may be some idea in this person's mind that they had some sort of exit strategy? or idea of moving elsewhere? >> there's a scum characterisku characteristics about the explosives that i feel curious. ammonium nitrate that could potential will be be used with other materials for a back pecuniary bam bom. why did he acquire that and never use it? there's a reference to tannerite. art probably knows more about that but that can be cinematic, dramatic. you put a small amount of that in a place, pop it with a rifle, you get a large explosive effect. did he want to use that over time in some location to create a diversion? the answers about those explosives i think will help us on a couple of questions, anderson. one is what the sheriff was talking about, did he want to escape? did he have other locations he was thinking about? and two, why did he acquire t s
materiel and not use it? was there a trigger that led him to choose that target and location before he could fully develop a plot? >> art, to you? >> the explosive is the biggest question here. there's a lot of questions about explosives, what was he planning to do with those? you don't acquire them, leave them in your vehicle, and not have a plan for them. was he using that as a vehicle-borne explosive device president other thing that is terrifying, i keep coming back to the intervention, the early intervention by the first responders. the amount of -- we don't know how many shell casings actually will be found, they haven't accounted for that. but the amount of munitions that he still had available to him. and had he chosen to continue firing, the death toll, it's incalculable. >> it would have been. another thing that needs to be brought up, and we've talked about this, the bump stock that
he's using, this kind of odd mechanism that allowed his weapon to fire like an automatic. that's not easy to use. it's a very difficult kind of technique to master. which means he would have had to have practiced a lot. and the question mark is, where was he doing it? and was anybody assisting him with that? >> you made the point earlier about the way he was using -- the way the gun was set up. >> it was set up for tactical purposes. but those weapons are not made to fire in automatic status. so that bump stock that he had would cause a jamming in the weapon at some point in time. if you're not 100% sure on how to use it. so he had a lot of training, obviously, to set those weapons up the way he did. but that bump stock can cause the weapon to malfunction or jam. >> we don't know if that did and if it contributed to him not doing it, or was it just the intervention of the security guard? >> the other thing in the
weapons, the photographs we've seen, some of the weapons are meant for distance shooting, some of the weapons are meant for close-in either defense or fighting. >> handgun, shotgun. >> even the one that had the hand grip on the very end of the barrel. >> 323. >> that is the one that is set up to clear the hallway, maybe, the sheriff saying there was some 200 rounds he thought were fired in the hallway. that's a staggering number because did he reload? where did he fire one weapon with 200 rounds? so he's got certain weapons that he's using to fire on a crowd, he's got other weapons he's using as defensive or maybe part of this escape plan me talk of. >> with so many active shooter situations, could go to the fbi's review of all of them since columbine, i think it's the first six minutes or so in which most of the fatties take place -- fatalities take place. do we know why it doesn't go longer? in some cases shooters kill themselves prior to intervention by the police. >> sure. some of these situations where you're looking at this, whether
you're looking at terror situations that i studied in my career. the individual invests so much of their emotion in getting to the location and conducting the attack, that is, they've got to build up to an emotional bubble that says, i'm going to kill people. when i kill people, most likely i'm going to die myself. what i'm saying is once they get to the actual event, they might not always have thought through, how do i maintain focus for 20 minutes or 30 minutes? so that i can kill 500 people instead of 100 people? they're invested in conducting the event and once they get into the event the emotion is so intense that they might lose focus, they might focus on killing themselves because they don't want to be taken by police, it's the emotion of the event that drives them. >> there's also the question of money. jen simon has been looking into the shooter's finances. dan, what have you learned so far? >> no question, anderson, that is going to be an important part of the conversation and the investigation. we know that the shooter often
described himself as a professional gambler. but he was also an active real estate investor. as you have heard. we know that he bought and sold some 11 properties going back to the 1980s. some of them netting him a small fortune. one example, in 2004, he sold an entire apartment complex in the town of hawthorne, california. he had his ex-wife and family members as partners with that. they sold that for $3 million. they bought it for $1 million a decade earlier, $2 million net. and so this was an important part of his life. one other thing, when he bought his most recent home in mesquite, it was an unusual transaction because when he bought that home, he paid for it entirely with cash. and the agents were startled by that. and when he bought that house, he said in passing to those agents, apparently at closing, that he was a professional gambler and that he would gamble $1 million each year in las vegas. >> phil, just from an
investigative standpoint, how much more do you want to know or investigators need to know about the shooter's financial situation? how significant is that, could that possibly be? >> it's not simply a question of financial situation, anderson. it's placing it in the context of a couple of other elements that are going to multiply over time. so we have how much money he acquired, how much money he spent, how much money he invested, how much he gambled. that's on a timeline. on that timeline as well i want to know where he moved, when he moved, whether that timeline corresponds with when he found friends, when he lost friends, when he developed a relationship with his girlfriend, when he decided to send her overseas. so it's the money, whether the quantities of money change over time and how they correspond to other changes in his life. friendships, romance, geographic movements, that is, when he moved from mesquite to other residences. you start to get a pattern of life that might show aberrations. he suddenly lost money, for example, i don't know this, but just speculating, maybe he lost
money six months ago and we saw at the same time differences in his relationships with friends. that's really important, anderson. but you need a lot of data to put together that three-dimensional picture of a life. >> just in terms of the investigation and from what you heard tonight, what else stands out to you? >> so i think most of the focus is going to go on mary lou danly, the girlfriend who was with him during this most significant period. it appears he purchased the guns during a elemented period of time, the last year. and she's with him during that time. so she's going to be focused just highlighting what was going on in his life that might actually come to the motivation aspect, the thing that we're so curious about. i am going to say this again, though. the sheriff does seem to have a theory of the case. he said it out loud, that he does not believe that he could have planned this alone. and so there will be a look for coconspirators as well to at least -- with the potential of
fbi before he fired him last february. setting off a new round of questions about whether the president's actions amount to obstruction of justice. >> well, if you take the president's own statement, his tweet that he knew michael flynn was lying to the fbi when he fired him, which means that he knew michael flynn had committed a felony when he asked comey to stop the investigation. and when he fired comey when he refused to do so and when he fired sally yates and when he called michael flynn in april to tell him to stay strong. all of these acts are to impede and obstruct justice. >> a source close to the white house acknowledging the severity of the misstep to "the washington post" which writes a person close to the white house involved in the case turned the saturday tweet a screw up of historic proportions that has caused enormous consternation in
to in legal circles about whether or not a lawyer would have sent a tweet or even dictated a tweet like the one that came from the president's feed on saturday. >> i think that's why a lot of people find this to be so remarkable, the motion that the president's lawyer would potentially get the president into more legal jeopardy. but john dowd, the president's lawyer over the weekend was very insistent he was the one who dictated this tweet to the social media director. he also acknowledges, as you pointed out, he essentially conflated two things that had previously been set by the president's special counsel ty cobb that mike flynn lied to not only the vice present but to the fbi as well. so there's been a fair amount of damage control over the weekend and throughout the day. but it's also just very striking this new argument that john dowd is making which is that the president cannot commit obstruction of justice.
argument that's very reminiscent of what richard nixon once says after leaving office. if the president does it, it's not illegal. it's not a crime. of course, that's an argument that hasn't been accepted in the past by an awful lot of people including the house of representatives which in the nixon case and bill clinton case included obstruction of justice among the articles of impeachment that they lodged against the presidents in those questions. now whether you can charge obstruction in a court of law may be a different thing. given that a president is in office and impeachment is the main remedy for what we'd call high crimes and misdemeanors, the house has clearly made clear it does consider obstruction to be something the president can be held accountable for. whether these actions count as obstruction of justice or not is a different question. that's something that is still up for debate. but it is funny to say or it is unusual to say that a president is simply, by virtue of being president, immune from the charges to begin with.
matt, let me bring you in here. you have been doing -- you have an incredible body of reporting around these questions. i want to ask you specifically about what we learned over the weekend about flynn's crime. we learned that flynn was charged with lying to the fbi, but in those charging documents, we learned that he was very far from some sort of rogue actor and i think we've learned since our program that his e-mails were in communication with k.t. mcfarland. a campaign aide and also getting direction from jared kushner. i believe your byline was on this story. "new york times," e-mails dispute white house claims that flynn acted independently on russia. mr. trump and his aides have suggested that his concern about flynn's potential legal jeopardy was influenced by the president's admiration for his former national security adviser. but the new details underscore the possibility that the
president may have been worried not just about mr. flynn but also about whether any investigation might reach into the white house and perhaps the oval office. this seems to get at the heart of the question that remains unknown which is why? why did mike flynn lie to the fbi about his russia contacts? any new leads today? >> yeah, no, you're absolutely right. because it's not clear that if mike flynn had said to the fbi or even to the vice president, yeah, i talked to the russian ambassador and told him to just cool his jets and don't worry about these new obama sanctions. we'll get into office and take care of this. it's not clear if he had said that that there would have really been a problem. now there's this theoretical logan act violation, which is never successfully been used to prosecute somebody which is this idea that private citizens can't be negotiating against the interests of the united states.
so if flynn had been truthful, would we have been in this boat? i'm not sure because there were a great many people in the transition who wanted to calm the russians down. because the russians were key to their foreign policy going forward. >> and ken dilanian, let me bring you in on this specific thread and ask you where the investigation into what the president knew and when he knew it stands right now. >> well, just to pick up on what matt was saying, bob bauer has an interesting column today in which he seems to argue that the reason flynn lied is because president trump may have told him to lie. obviously, that's an allegation unproven but he theorizes it's implausible that donald trump didn't know that mike flynn was going and talking to the russians about sanctions given that others on the campaign team knew and were staffing donald trump in mar-a-lago. that's, obviously, an open question for us, but, you know, bob mueller knows the answer to it because mike flynn had to offer a proffer before he made
the sweetheart deal to plead guilty to one felony charge and explain to the special counsel what he would testify to. not in every detail but in the broad strokes. and so to the extent that mike flynn knows anything about the trump campaign and collusion. he was involved to try to get hackers to find hillary clinton's missing e-mails? all of that is something robert mueller knows the details on and the only question is filling in the blanks, continuing to investigate. mike flynn knows whether jared kushner told the truth. he knows a lot and now as somebody else said, he gets up every day wondering how to please robert mueller and that cannot be a good thing for this white house. >> two more men who may wake up every day wondering how to please robert mueller are the white house counsel don mcgahn and the president's son-in-law jared kushner. let me read this from "the washington post" and we'll talk about it. the post writing, inside the secretive nerve center of the mueller investigation. the stelts morning arrival thursday, last thursday, white house counsel don mcgahn became
the latest in a string of high-level witnesses to enter the secretive nerve center of special counsel robert s. mueller's investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election. 20 hours later, mueller and his team emerged into public view to rattle washington with a dramatic announcement that former national security adviser michael flynn would plead guilty to lying to the fbi. mb g mcgann was scheduled to return friday but they postponed it to allow mcgann to help the white house manage the response to flynn's plea. as ken and matt have suggested, bob mueller knows exactly what don mcgahn told donald trump unless, i guess it's always possible he's exerted some sort of privilege suggesting his conversation is with the president, his client would be privileged. but it is likely that with mueller getting closer and closer to the president himself, we will find out in pretty short order what -- if the president's
tweet over the weekend saying that he was aware that mike flynn had lied to the fbi was something that don mcgahn had told him or not. how worried are all of these senior aides who were sort of in the vortex of this house of mirrors if you will, about whether or not they can simply keep their stories straight from one another's. >> officially, of course, the line here at the white house is that they're not worried. there's nothing to be worried about. the point that you make about don mcgahn raises two other issues. one, you have a number of the president's top advisers going in to talk to robert mueller. and we've been told that's going to happen in the coming weeks. number two, the fact that he had friday to come back and deal with the bombshell that flynn had plead guilty to lying to the fbi. i spoke to one source who is close to the president who called that development a very, very, very bad development. essentially acknowledging what the white house, what the
president's legal team won't say officially which is that, look, this is getting much closer to the west wing, to the president. now again, and i want to stress this point, the president's legal team says, look, michael flynn can't say anything damaging to the president because he doesn't know anything damaging. but there are concerned that even if you believe that line of thought, nicolle, there are concerns about what michael flynn might say to robert mueller. so i think the point can't be underscored enough. this is getting closer and closer to the president and that is making life very complicated for all of the top advisers here at the white house. >> peter baker, let me play you something. i've heard one of the concerns that the -- not just this current legal team but the legal teams past that have tried to serve this president in this investigation have had is that they're not always sure that they're getting the full story from the president and they're not always sure they're getting it first. this was the president with
lester holt. >> because my white house counsel don mcgahn came back to me and did not sound like an emergency of any -- didn't make it sound like he was, you know, and she actually didn't make it sound that way either in the hearings the other day like it had to be done immediately. this man has served for many years. he's a general. he's -- in my opinion, a very good person. i believe that it would be very unfair to hear from somebody who we don't even know and immediately run out and fire a general. >> what's so remarkable about that is, we now are going to have a conversation -- bob mueller is certainly investigating what the white house did after sally yates came to don mcgahn, white house counsel and said, hey, mike flynn is a potential target for blackmail from the russians. if you believe the president's twitter feed, he also learned at some point that mike flynn had lied to the fbi, even though
sally yates testified to congress that that's not exactly what she said to don mcgahn. but they have in the president someone who conflates interactions. someone who projects onto interactions certain things. i can't imagine that anyone in this white house is going to testify under oath or to bob mueller's investigators that there was nothing to worry about. they've been warned that flynn was a potential target for blackmail by russians. i imagine the things they did from that moment until the day he was fired are very much under close, close scrutiny. >> you are exactly right. a couple weeks and it was only after it was publicized in "the washington post" that they did fire general flynn at that point which, of course, always raised the question of why alarm bells didn't go off and why they didn't take it more seriously in a quicker fashion. it was the very first days of the administration. and they were busy and consumed by lots of different things. a lot of fires going.
some of which they had set themselves. and, you know, clearly they had not focused on this the way they would, you know, in hindsight the way you'd say they probably should have. mike flynn was there for 24 days in office. he's presumably going to have something because the special prosecutor isn't going to get him off a single charge like this given how much other evidence he seems to have accumulated unless he's getting something of value. the something of value would have to be during the campaign, the transition and during those 24 days. >> matt, i'm going to play chris ruddy but you'll understand why i'm doing this after. let's watch and talk about it on the other side. >> at the end of the day, my view is that robert mueller poses an existential threat to the trump presidency. he's gotten four major, two conviction, two plea agreements, lightning speed. >> that was one of the president's closest friends,
somebody he's known to talk to regularly. he's of news max, news organization. not really someone who would be predisposed to admire anything about bob mueller, but he described him as moving at lightning speed with four major, two convictions, two three agreements. so it's undeniable that bob mueller is working with some urgency to get to the bottom of this. >> yeah, and just look at what the white house is saying in response to these moves by bob mueller. they're saying, look. all these charges show no collusion. and, see, i'm totally exonerated. but that's the corner that this white house has been boxed into. their former national security adviser is under -- pleaded guilty. their former campaign chairman is under indictment. two former aides have been charged. there were not even a year into this administration. if the best argument you can make is, see, we're not in
cohoots with the russians to tip the, leks, it shows how much defense they're having to play here. bob mueller is looming large. the white house very much wants to get through this period at the end of the year where their senior staff are being interviewed. they very much want to be able to turn this around on bob mueller and say you've enjoyed everybody at the white house. you've done what you need to do. tell us we're not the focus. move on to whatever you need to do next. that's what they're hoping for. >> what are the odds of that happening? >> not very good. i think these white house interviews are about the obstruction of justice strand of the investigation which probably would not take as long as the collusion strand which is going to take a lot longer because in order to make that case, he may need the testimony of paul manafort. paul manafort may want to go to trial and that could take a year. it feels like there's a lot left to gathor the question of, did senior members of the trump campaign knowingly collude with the russian effort.
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for an untraditional white house that serves a convention-busting president, there was something very traditional to be surmised in mike flynn's court documents on friday. when it came to what message to pass on to russian ambassador sergey kislyak about russian sanctions, mike flynn called his deputy katie mcfarland. when it came to what to tell the russians and others about a u.n. resolution about israel, flynn consulted jared kushner. flynn was not a free agent. he had not, to borrow a phrase, gone rogue. "the new york times" reporting, mr. flynn was in close touch with other senior members of the trump transition team both before and after he spoke with the russian ambassador sergey kislyak about american sanctions against russia. joining our panel today, kimberly atkins, chief washington reporter for the boston herald, now an nbc
contributor. michael steele, former chairman of the rnc. jason johnson, msnbc contribute our and amy stoddard, associate editor and columnist for real clear politics. let me start with you, chairman steele. this mike flynn fantasy that he was some rogue actor, some guy who lied but didn't have to does not compute. glen kessler from the post tweeted it's worth keeping in mind that flynn served in the military for 33 years and was trained to follow orders in a chain of command. >> and that's the key thing right there. given his closeness to the president, then candidate trump, there's no way he'd go outside of that bubble on a rogue mission on his own to act on behalf of or in the interest of donald trump without someone senior, if not donald trump himself, signing off on his actions. that is the nature of the man. that is how he's approached these things, and i think it's one of the key things that
mueller and his investigation teed off on in the very first instance. if you go back to the beginning of this, flynn has been a key player because he, of all the people outside of his family, trump's family, was the closest to the man. >> you convinced me in the makeup room where all the magic happens before the show that there may be some questionable storytelling about who authored that now controversial tweet on saturday saying that the president had to fire flynn because he lied to the vice president. and the fbi. you don't think for a minute that dowd wrote it? >> the probability that a lawyer protecting the president of the united states would author, i don't know if you pen or type a tweet, an incriminating tweet to get his boss in trouble. >> like how dumb are we? how dumb do you think we are? >> after consult with my lawyer frinds i've learned lay peel like us use the word plead.
john dowd would not have -- >> i was hacked. it wasn't me. >> that was anthony weiner's first response. someone else found this. like it doesn't -- it just strains any sense of credibility. we know this president. no one tells him what to say when it comes to twitter, otherwise they would have snatched it out of his hands eight months popping clearly this was him. he has a record of saying incriminating things. if this was just about the president incriminating himself and making clear he was engaging in obstruction of justice. mueller is going for something more. if we go by the president's words himself, he pretty much is in trouble. >> he wants it to stick. >> he's dealing in a fact-free zone. kimberly, let me bring you in on the question of the overlap because we have all of the people on the right saying, look, friday was an awesome day
for the president. no russian collusion. well, we don't know that. and the big whopper of a lie that we do know about was about russian collusion. it may have been bungled but it was about that meeting in trump tower. the big whopper of a lie told by the president and the only known unknown is who else was aware of the fact they were telling a lie. and not that it's a crime to lie to the press but this was sort of the ease with which -- and you're talking about all of them -- now john dowd his lawyers is involved in the lie about who sent out the tweet. how many white house aides could be incriminated just in the false statements about russia which could lead mueller to the doorstep of russian collusion. >> there was nothing exculpatory about what happened last week. all we know is there was one time that michael flynn lied, that he admitted to. we don't know all the other times he may have lied. we don't know who else may have
lied. we only know this as a tool used by robert mueller and its investigators to get to the bottom of everything that going on. it's more what we don't know. we have found incidents time after time after time where people in this administration are caught in bald-faced lies. like lying is something that happens with a fair amount of ease in this organization. so again, lying in itself is not necessarily illegal. but if you are covering something up, if you are consistently lying in order to cover something up. and the big question is, why did michael flynn lie about these -- his connections to ambassador kislyak. what was he trying to cover up at that time that was going on in order to -- in the first plaus? >> i worked in the white house. if you have k.t. mcfarland and jared kushner calling the plays on what should be commune kated with sergey kislyak, a meeting has been had. and the only question -- and the only question is, was the president in the room? >> yeah. >> it's pretty much the only
thing at this point. impossible tong think he wasn' aware of it. this is the other thing about flynn and whether it was just this one lie. we thought when papadopoulos got busted, that was bad enough. he had been wearing a wire. but between papadopoulos and now flynn, you can almost triangulate on anybody in this administration. like i know you talked to one of these guys. whenever you tell me, i can run it past either of these people and see if it's true. the noose is really getting tighter on so many different people and you can't keep pretending you weren't at meetings that everyone knows happened. >> as that noose tightens, individuals want to loosen it a little bit to include somebody else's neck. >> people now facing questions but are not really being scrutinized too much by the media are don mcgahn, white house counsel, who was in receipt of information -- here's what we knee know. he received information from sally yates. he was told mike flynn could be a target for blackmail from the
russians. based on the president's tweet is suggests don mcgahn, and the tape i justice showed you from the president's comments to lester holt, it suggests the president believes don mcgahn is the person who shared information with him about mike flynn's other potential legal or criminal liabilities. we don't know the extent of that. another name is rick dearborn. there's an article about how these may have been bungled contacts but contact in coordination with russia was attempted. "the new york times" reporting operative offered trump campaign kremlin connection using nra ties. wow. a conservative operative trumpeting his close ties to the national rifle association and russia told a trump campaign adviser last year that he could arrange a back channel meeting between donald trump and vladimir putin. the russian president, according to an e-mail sent to the trump campaign. that aide is another sitting staffer. the staff has to have a lot of
long lunches with lrawyers on k-street. >> they're running out of lawyers not already booked in this case. this is the thing if you look at the way the president talks about world leaders of any nation all over the globe, with the exception of vladimir putin and russia. if you look at 51, i think the count is now, of official contacts with trump campaign or trump administration with russians. it just doesn't sound like this was an energetic reset attempt with the russians. it sounds like more. the other thing is, if you look at that -- >> what do you mean more? it doesn't sound like a policy shift? it sounds -- >> we don't have evidence of collusion, but -- >> take collusion out of it. bungled coordination. >> way more than an attempt to just have a good relationship with russia starting on january 20 ppt the speculation now and the curiosity about that discussion between sally yates,
then still at doj and don mcgahn, where she relays this about flynn, is that he was actually in more danger than a violation of the logan act which in your first segment you talk about -- people have not been prosecuted under that. as someone who not only worked in the military but at the highest levels of the national security apparatus, flynn would know those conversations with the ambassador would be recorded and he probably could tell the fbi about them without lying. if he was saying, look, we're anti-sanction. it's on the cover of every paper. this isn't news. it's not a secret. the idea of him lying to the fbi, the idea of sally yates saying he could be compromised and the subject of blackmail is probably about something that is larger than a logan act violation. >> you agree with that? >> completely. there would be nothing wrong, they said throughout the campaign, we just want a better campaign with russia. >> donald trump said americans
are killers, too. his putin love knew no limits, michael steele. >> i don't know what the fascination is with putin, but he's got it bad, really bad. and i think it could be this thing that really, in the end, vexes him to the point where he'll be standing in front of the american people going -- he just won't have an explanation and that's why mueller is so important here because mueller is the one who is going to give context and explanation for a lot of this. >> that picture is going to be filled in eventually. we're following breaking news at the supreme court which has just ruled that the trump administration can enforce the travel ban. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is standing by outside the supreme court. pete? >> this is version three of the so-called travel ban. this was announced in late september. this was the new restrictions on visas from certain countries. for the most part it continued the travel ban except puts an additional restriction on north korea, venezuela and other
countries. and after it began to be enforced, the lower courts in hawaii and maryland said it couldn't be enforced against close family members. grandparents, cousins, aunts and uncles. today the supreme court lifted that restriction allowing the government to enforce it completely. no exception for family members. only two justices, ruth bader ginsburg and sonia sotomayor said they would have kept those in place. >> this is a huge victory for the president but he has says this version doesn't go far enough. he likes version 1.0 and 2.0 better. does this give him some legal footing to go back to those more severe bans? >> no, i don't think so. those more severe bans are, to a large extent, a dead letter. but what i do think is the -- remember it was the supreme court that initially upheld the family restriction on theole travel ban. and said you had to have a restriction for close family members. now they're saying you don't.
this may be a sign that this latest version of the travel restriction, this visa ban which the government put in place after carefully checking how every country in the world handles the visa application for people who want to come here. it may be a sign that the supreme court is going to be much easier on the administration when this case gets here. it's a good sign for the administration, i think. >> did it come down simply seeing this as something that was clearly a president's -- any president's authority to do? >> we don't know because all -- it was a very brief order. it simply said the request for a stay on these injunctions is granted, and we'll see how it plays out in the lower courts. when it gets up here, the supreme court said we'll take a second look at it but they didn't give any reason for what they did today. >> pete williams at the supreme court, thank you. kimberly atkins, any surprise? >> i think that is a little surprising. we did see, as you says, in the past, particularly this one
restriction that the grandmother exception that it seemed overly broad and they left thatta -- allowed feem continue to do that. in that sense it's a bit of a surprise. last week the retweets of these purported anti-muslim videos, the first thing i thought of is that's going to make it harder for the administration to say we're not anti-muslim. we're doing this for national security. it seemed to be a big blow to that case. it may still be at the lower court about the fact the supreme court is going in the opposite direction is good news for the white house. >> and some courts have suggested that the president's tweets get to his state of mind but obviously not this supreme court. the fbi defends itself from the law & order president who spent the weekend and today smearing them. you won't want to miss this.
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among the most alarming tweets from the president this weekend, this one. after years of comey with the phony dishonest clinton investigation and more, running the fbi, its reputation is in tatters. we'll bring it back to greatness. that brought about swift condemnation from folks who know the fbi best from sally yates -- the fbi is in tatters? no. the only thing in tatters is the president's respect for the rule of law. the dedicated men and women of the fbi deserve better. this from former ag, eric holder. nope, not letting this go. the fbi's reputation is not in tatters. it's composed of the same dedicated men and women who have always worked there and do a great apolitical job. you'll find integrity and honesty at the fbi and not at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. the president railing against what sounds like every man and woman who serves in the fbi. >> and the idea, irrespective of
those individuals who put their life on the line and serving communities across the country, this is all about how he wants to create a narrative around these institutions of government and culture and society. and have -- reshaped in his image, in his mind thought if you will. people look at them the same way he does. the idea starting with the media. now a significant number of americans think the media are not good for america, anti-americans. and the only way it stops is if people just stop injefgesting t crazy and push back on it and call it what it really is. >> what is it? >> what it is is a president who is unhinged when it comes to these things. he see the world through his perspective centered around one person and one person only. it's about him. not about the leadership at the fbi, not -- >> a former diplomat said if an fbi agent gets hurt, this can be
traced back to donald trump. i heard that from former diplomatic security when he retweeted the anti-muslim videos. i've heard that from a lot of campaign reporters on the road with him when they were screaming and spitting at the press pen. we made a list of all the institutions and independent agencies. it's the fbi, the free press, independent judiciary, diplomats, including his own top diplomat, rex tillerson. i guess he called him a moron. maybe that one stands equal. congress. all the congressional leaders and political opponents like hillary clinton. i want to read something from "the new york times" which wrote in an editorial. he's casting the men and women of the fbi as unreliable if not worse, just as he has previously done with cia agents, federal judges, scientists, congressional budget office analysts and journalists among others. the president wants to undercut just about anybody who is an independent source of information. it's a classic tactic of autocrats who people -- as
people who have spent time in modern russia, china or venezuela can tell you. the attacks on institution that check his power continue. amy, what do we do? >> oh, i don't have that answer for you, but i can tell you this. i think, obviously, in the campaign, his own supporters knew he had authoritarian impulses and voted for him anyway. he won this election by 77,000 votes against a very flawed candidate who i think skirted the law herself. and here we are. but he continues to speak to a third of the country with a very passionate authoritarian style. and the courts, the congress, the constitution be damned if it's the wrong day for any of those. i will say that i can only imagine the republican lawmakers that i have covered all these years and know well, michael, how loudly they would be screaming if barack obama went after the fbi and eric holder
did not stand up for them. it is really quite a day for jeff sessions to be hiding in excellence. number one -- and i'm not sticking up for comey, but this is something to think about. a year ago the guardian reported in november of 2016 that the fbi was completely pro-trump and anti-hillary. and they thought she was a corrupt criminal. if you look back, the reason that comey made all these mistakes and soiled his reputation is because even though you're not supposed to comment on cases he was worried that leaks would come out about him closing that case which is why he gave the july 5th press conference. later he had the october 11th, i think it was, letter. both times he stepped in it because he was so terrified of his own political skin that letter on, leaks would come out from the fbi, people who were anti-hillary. so at that time, obviously, the trump campaign was very pro-fbi. but i think it's a really sad day for jeff sessions and chris ray at the fbi and the doj that they can't stick up for these
men and women? >> where is chris ray, jeff sessions? these men and women carry out missions directed by the director of the fbi who was, i think, confirmed 100 to nothing. and part of the reason we're here is also because of what you just said. the people thought hillary's private e-mail server was the same as donald trump's assault on democracy. it is not. it's just a bad thing. >> and at this point, it's not autocratic impulses. this is goals. we're all hanging by this thread that one day we won't have a saturday night massacre. he's just going to get rid of mueller and the republicans in congress will twiddle their thumbs and say we should have done something about it. two things are problem 80. it's not just attacking these and saying i am the law. i can command everything one way or another. but it's this weird way the president sort of turns all politics into this m.c. esher
painting. you have liberals cheering for the fbi, an organization that's gone after -- and so people don't know who they can support because this is a dangerous president. so all of this, i -- it confuses public discourse, endangers our democracy and makes it problematic to know who our real allies are. >> make something of these, our top diplomats apolitical, putting them on team america and leaving donald trump over here trying to get vladimir putin's abs? >> that may be the case if it wasn't such damage being done. you have, look, donald trump, when he tweets and makes these statements, two audiences in mind. himself and his most ardent supporters. he doesn't care what other people think about them. he doesn't care what the effects of them are. if you have a substantial percentage of the american people who think the fbi is a political organization just out to get him and it's corrupt and part of the swamp, if you have
people when he tweeted those videos. he didn't consider what was that going to do to his muslim ban case or relationship with the uk, one of our most important allies. or american diplomats. he doesn't think about any of that. he is pushing it back, identifying an enemy who was a problem for him and i don't think he cares about the consequences or at very least doesn't think about them. >> he doesn't think. but when we come back, going all in on roy moore. donald trump throws his full support behind the accused sexual molester and the senate majority leader walks back his opposition. and a republican who thinks this is just going to blow over is sadly mistaken. we'll bring you the latest on that alabama race. (avo) when you have type 2 diabetes, you manage your a1c, but you also have a higher risk of heart attack or stroke. non-insulin victoza® lowers a1c, and now reduces cardiovascular risk. victoza® lowers my a1c and blood sugar better than the leading branded pill.
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allegations to be true? >> i believe the women, yes. >> then how could you let the people of alabama decide? the president today made it official endorsing roy moore, and it's worth reminding our audience, moore has been accused of sexual misconduct with multiple teenaged girls. michael steele where are we? what is happening. i'll read your tweet. it's depressing me. your tweet made me feel better. your refusal to acknowledge you just endorsed a pedophile for the vote is a real -- >> yes. i wish republicans would find something of a backbone or any other anatomy part to allow them to say the real thing. a dear price to pay for the party next year. women and men around the country are looking at this going i cannot believe that you value the vote of a pedophile over
leading this country, over protecting women, who finally are finding their voice to come out and speak to these types of behaviors and the aggression against them, and this political party, which has stood on the moral high ground for lo these 30-plus years, sanctimoniously telling people how to live their lives, should do and shouldn't do, sank moectimoniously judgin people because are where they live, now can sit back and say, we want people to decide what they want to do. really? this is it? >> we used to be part of that party, and how did it come to this? i agree with you. all of those trespasses led to this being in women's uteruses, telling people who to marry and who to love what to do in the bedrooms put us on this corrupt panel. the least conservatives things we did as a party. conservatism means out of my life. what i thought it meant when i
as young and impressionable. how did we get here. because over a period of time we've ignored the base. when they were saying, you promised a., b. and the c., we didn't do it. leadership didn't do it. that was a cauldron boiling and then the leadership decided to get down with the money, get down with the deals, with different relationships that took us on a pathway that here we are now. there is no anchor. there's no more anchor to the party that allows it to look at what the president is saying and has done in this regard and say, wait a minute. that's not who we are. we saw that when the president came down that escalator, stood before the american people and called out the mexican-american community talking about rapist and whatnot. we had a document. oh, no. we'll have a different relationship with latin-americans and all americans of hispanic origin. oh, no. toss it out of the window because that bright, shining object represented by trump was more alluring and more promising
than actually going out and committing yourself to the american people. >> there's another aspect to this, too. donald trump and roy moore wouldn't are doubling down on this if they didn't think they could win. >> right. >> so that's the problem. you have a lot of people -- i stalk to people who say, you don't like mcconnell, and we don't like that mitch mcconnell is telling the people of alabama what to do. that makes me support roy moore even more. these things are probably fake. it's fake news. it there wasn't a contingent of the elech tlctorate that would up this kind of things -- >> seems like the ultimate day of reckoning for the smear that was fake news. if donald trump smears the media long enough, the media told their neighbor, roy moore molested that are child when they were 14, they won't believe them. >> more basic. look at voters down in alabama, a lot of people in this country, you have to understand from an electoral standpoint a lot of
conservative republicans already think the democratic party is inherently immoral, the party of sharia law and black lives matter and gay marriage. there are people who believe two adult men having a consensual relationship is more offensive than what roy moore was accused of. to those people voting for him is still a better decision. >> i make that case for tribalism. the ones that do believe the allegations still would never vote for a democrat. choosing that. >> exactexactly. >> i argue what they did for bill clinton and ted kennedy, no one trying to stop the fact tribalism prevail, neither party. >> sneak in one more break and belong be right back. to reach your business goals it takes more than buzz words. it takes tools. tools to help you work smarter on "your business" we'll focus on techniques to attract customers and drive growth. getting you and your business to the next level.
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for so long. do you get the sense that he's sort of distracting from his own policy agenda with the comments he made this week about other countries, whether true or not, with tweets he puts out about everybody from author michael wolff to news anchors? >> there are definitely republicans in this town who would very much agree with the premise of that question. they see it as constant controversies that do distract, that they have to sort of answer for things on a constant basis because the president has stoked up controversy again. that is a problem for people who are more used to a much more focused, much more deliberative approach from a president. gillian: so, distracting from his own policy agenda, some might go as so far as shooting himself in the foot. take a listen to the sound bite from speaker paul ryan in wisconsin. >> you're trying to broker a deal, right. >> yeah, so-- how do you do that with this?
>> so we just have to get it done. gillian: talking about the president's comments this week on fisa, during the leadup to the vote on the hill, and then also, you know, on the comments he allegedly made during this meeting with lawmakers, using a vulgar term. so, it seems like, even speaker ryan is saying we're forging ahead, we're trying not to let the president, you know, get in our way. it's a little unusual. >> oh, it's massively unusual, particularly since congress has an absolutely full plate of things it needs to get to. there's a very intense congression congressional agenda. people need to get things done fast. time that you spend on other topics to accomplish those goals. gillian: and you create unnecessary obstacles when you speak out on issues that aren't necessarily appropriate for the
president to be commenting on. i want to pull up for you what john mccain had to say earlier this week. he said, people have come to this country from everywhere. and people from everywhere have made everyone great. our immigration policies should reflect that truth and our elected officials, including our president, should respect it. those are some fairly scathing words from a senior lawmaker who has been working on not just immigration, but national security issues for decades. what do you make of that? >> i think that it is part of a firstly genuine objection to what the president is supposed to have said, but i also think it's a point that many republicans believe the republican party has to be welcoming to an ever more diverse america. and i think that they feel comments like the ones attributed to president trump cut against that in a very serious way. they see it speaking to his base, yes, but his base is a minority of the country. and so, they don't think that that is a winning strategy over
the medium or long-term. and i think that they have sincere objections to it as well. gillian: we've got to not just worry about the base. the president doesn't have to worry only about his base facing in 2018, part of his role and responsibility is to help usher republicans across that goal line. so certainly not helping there, right. >> absolutely not. one of the interesting things i think in the past couple of days, we're seeing lawmakers from competitive districts really being to the fore criticizing the president. someone like congressman korbela, and pretty scathing. and i think we're seeing those republicans trying to create some distance between themselves and the president on this kind of talk. gillian: well, hopefully they will get to the other side of this. republicans will be able to put it behind them and move forward. niall stannage, thanks for joining us. mike: and statistics in the house nearly $300,000 have been
spent quieting harassment and discrimination claims against house members since 2003. >> hi there, mike. the nearly $300,000 comes straight from taxpayers and was used to settle 13 claims against members. house. that average is out to almost a settle a year. here is a look. 27,000 was paid out between 2003 in '07. then, a big jump between '08 and 2012 with 174,000. then 91,000 from 2013 to last year. we don't know who got the payouts because staffers had to sign a nondisclosure agreement. to start mediation. we know one of the offending congressmen was from texas. his former communications director received 84,000 after she accused him of making inappropriate sexual comments. he announced he's not running for reelection and said he'll pay the money back. earlier, he's waiting to see
thank you very much. gillian: president trump now pointing the finger at democrats for what he's calling a missed opportunity on daca and immigration. this after a week of meetings on the issue without any clear results. our own molly heninberg is following the latest on this story. >> hi, gillian. there's no bill until there's a bill and right now there's no bill at least publicly that can get 60 votes in the senate and get the president's signature. legislators had hoped to include immigration reform and wrap it up in a bill to keep the government funded, but that spending bill has to be done by next friday and it doesn't appear at this point that there's enough agreement to include immigration in that legislation. on daca, which stands for the deferred action for childhood arrivals, which protects some 800,000 illegal minors from deportation, and then the dream act gives them a pathway to legal status. some democrats want just to focus on that for now. the top house democrat nancy pelosi is asking for a daca and
dream only piece of legislation now. and in a statement yesterday, she said, quote, in october, the president wrongly decided to terminate daca. since that time. the president has constantly said he supports daca. what is clear is it that we must insist on a clean dream act, which is supported overwhelmingly by the american people, has bipartisan support in congress and must be enacted in january. but that doesn't sit well with republicans who wants border security or those who want to end chain migration. or those who don't want legal status for young, illegal immigrants. >> some of these people that are negotiating from the other side, aren't there in good faith. i think that they're there trying to make their political point, and they don't really want daca, they want the dream act. that's what they want. they're calling it daca, but they want a path to citizenship, a path to amnesty and that's part of the problem. >> congressman big says he does
not believe that the daca issue would prevent legislators from coming to an agreement to keep them open and funded by next friday. >> thanks for that reporting, molly. >> mike. >> let's bring in michigan congressman dan killdee. do you want a clean daca bill? >> yes, and i think it's sometimes in a partisan divide where one doesn't exist quite as much as people say it does. republicans in the house, i know, and democrats would like to get a daca deal done, and would vote for it, if it was on the floor. ways a little disappointed to say that the president says this is a missed opportunity. we have sessions on tuesday, wednesday, thursday. we could bring daca codification, a bill to the floor and i suspect it would have more than 300 votes in the house of representatives and would sale through the senate.
funding over this daca issue. why don't we negotiate in good faith on the issue, roll up your sleeves and let's work this out, but let's not hold the funding of our military hostage over this issue, that's irresponsible and they need to stop it. mike: congressman, your reaction to her comments and are we headed for a government shutdown? >> i don't think so. we'll see the. the republicans control the house, the senate and have the white house. the idea that it's the democrats' fault who have no power to put anything on the floor that we haven't taken action on these issues, that's playing politics and look, congressman i know has a track record and she's got her point of view, but saying that it's politics is basically playing politics. why don't we just do what congress is supposed to do when members of congress agree, democrats, and republicans on an issue, let's vote on it. to say that's playing politics to me i think is disingenuous. that's governing.
mike: wouldn't it wise to separate a controversial issue like immigration and government funding and a budget, it seems all are difficult enough individually for this congress to do. your thoughts, sir? >> well, i mean, we can separate it. we can put the daca bill on the floor on tuesday. and get it done. and basecle i -- basically set that aside and don't have to conflate these issues. there's a moment when the budget bills come up. democrats-- the republicans don't have the vote to keep the government open. when democrats are asked to rescue the republicans from themselves by providing enough votes to keep the government open 'cause they don't have them themselves, we have to have some of our priorities included in the action that congress takes and not be put in a position where all the things that democrats care about never get decided, never get a vote on the floor. mike: right. >> but the republicans who can't govern without us are unwilling to acknowledge that. that's just not right.
mike: you know, your republican colleagues want more border security so where is the solution on this immigration issue? is it in the bipartisan by camerale talks that speaker rhein has been talking about? do you think those bipartisan house are the key? >> this is obviously an issue where we need a comprehensive approach. we need border security, no question about it. we need to fix this broken immigration system and there are areas of agreement. i was really disappointed that the president didn't hold to his word when he had the bipartisan meeting just a few days ago, and then was presented a bipartisan solution to this problem after saying that he would accept whatever these folks put together and sign it, and he said no. so, i don't know who's whispering in his ear, but that was disappointing. we can solve these problems and we have to do it in a comprehensive way. democrats have to acknowledge that border security is an important subject, but we also have to have fixing to these
other problems and not create a pejorative out of family migration. i mean, this issue of chain migration is one that i think is getting a bit misunderstood. family immigration is a part of the history of this country. my own hometown-- >> thanks for your time. dan kildee from the great state of michigan. see you soon, sir. >> thank you very much. mike: we'll have more coverage. chris wallace as an exclusive interview with california attorney general, and what's next. and president trump's immigration comments and steve bannon's ouster from breitbart tomorrow at 11 a.m. eastern. gillian: it came from outer space. what the spacex cargo vehicle just brought down from -- to earth from the international
space station. a tough message from kim jong-un to the white house, as the south korea olympics slated for next month. and watching the thermostats plunge, more problems on the roads and airports. and adam is monitoring from the fox extreme weather center. i know when we see you we're getting bad news, go for it. >> unfortunately, we're looking into a system going into the northeast, on the back side cold air is funneling in. i'll have details after the break. i take pictures of sunrises,
freezing rain causing major slowdowns on roads, and meanwhile, the folks in buffalo, new york, were dealing with melting snow and flooding problems because of warmer temperatures. meteorologist adam is at the extreme weather center with all of today's forecasts. take it away. >> yeah, kind of a wild day yesterday. a real rollercoaster giving me a bit of a cold. and we're tracking a system off the northeast. one you're talking about. it's running off the east coast and the back side of this system we're looking at a major change in temperatures falling down into the teens in many cases. add in the wind chill and you'll notice a huge difference falling back down into the negative across a huge portion of the country. and it's still too early, winter is not over yet. it was 60 in new york city yesterday. unfortunately, that isn't going to be sticking around. now, as we go farther into the forecast, this is from saturday into sunday. these are daytime highs across
the country. and not horribly bad, but pay attention to what happens on monday. suddenly, another round of arctic air is going to be settling into the center of the country. you're looking at temperatures falling back into the negative. and that goes even deeper into the country. so we're talking about another huge arctic blast that's going to be pushing in, getting into the middle of next week. it's not just coming with the cold temperatures, it's going to be coming with eventually a system that's going to be working through. and here is your future radar, this is sunday into monday. right there, is where that system is, unfortunately, it's going to be coming with ice, it's going to be coming with snow, as much as i would love it to warm up, unfortunately, that's just not going to be the case. this is something we're dealing with, another big round just around the corner, guys. >> well, adam, you stay there. hang tight. no need to come here to our nation's capital. >> thank you. mike: i got home last night 60-something degrees and got up
this morning, 30-something degrees. all of us have a little frog in our throat. gillian: thanks, adam. you're the best. mike: authorities say the same russian hackers who targeted the dnc are back. who they're probing for information now. the clock is ticking for lawmakers to reach a deal on daca and immigration. how their lack of progress is resonating with voters.
the immigration debate in washington? >> unfortunately sigh sidelined with this ridiculous controversy as they're calling it. it's a sad day when this president who clearly trusts, i'm not sure why, but he still trusts the principle parties in the room to speak candidly. he's coming from an environment, used to the oars rowing in the same boat and he's not used to those to sand bag him. whether he said these things and it's clear about seizing power and not achieving goals. mike: we're less than a week from a possible government shutdown. what do folks outside of the beltway think about that? >> i think it's clear if we're going to hold up military spending or call this a government shutdown, if you want broadly, if we're really holding it up to secure the border, i don't know that that's the plank the democrats want to walk.
i get that -- i've yet to hear anybody why border security the is something we're against. >> if the president used rough language in a private meeting with lawmakers, does your audience care? >> no, for heaven's sake. you know, i said last night on twitter, mike, i was-- ever since 18 years old since you've been voting in this country the american left has been telling people stay out of our bedrooms, butt out. sop stop with the social issues frpt the second in private he supposedly allegedly says one curse word and suddenly the left takes to the billy graham crusades, where did that come from. mike: what about the comment made by house leader nancy pelosi, talking about people with an immigration deal.
>> five white guys i call them. you hope a hamburger stand next or what? >> so the five guys joke seemed to fall flat in the room. your thoughts, chris? >> that's just-- that's the perfect example, mike of what we're talking about. if you want to talk about race, you know, trump says, s-hole countries and that's a racist term suddenly and she specifically says five white guys. she invokes race. if ever there was racism on display in an off the cuff remark, it's miss pelosi, not the president. mike: and the assumption here, chris, is that late next week congress will punt again, meaning a short measure. how do that play outside the beltway. >> that's grist for the mill. i think most of us expect that's probably what will happen. folks that listen to this show and i speak for myself, what nobody wants is to colina daca
bill business. where ever you are on daca, i don't know any conservatives or republicans that would suggest only daca, no wall, no border security, no dealing with chain migration. that would be a terrible mistake. so, i'd rather wait and prolong it then rush to do something that we'll never go back and fix again. mike: a few seconds left. do you have a prediction in 2018, a lot of anxiety with a lot of republicans at 2018. your thoughts, chris? >> historically, if you want to look at history. we can't seem to these guys as a predictor, maybe republicans lose the house, perhaps. i think that republicans could pick up the senate. i know they won't lose the senate. i bank on them keeping control. senate, but they may gain republicans in the senate. mike: after this, chris is headed to atlantic city to place some bets. >> go eagles! . mike: chris, thanks. >> thanks, mike. gillian: the u.s. senate in the
cross-hairs of the same russian computer criminal hackers that caused problems for the dnc last year during the general election. chief political correspondent catherine herridge talks about it. >> and at the height of 2016 election, with wikileaks and the same hackers are now targeting the u.s. senate. according to new research, hackers are going after lawmakers network of context, as well as compromising information for blackmail. these cyber hackers, speak russian, and going to trap visitors with malware. >> and they set up fake accounts and fancy bear hackers used the strategy during the french presidential election to steal
e-mails in an efforts to influence the outcome. the u.s. intelligence community believes the hackers are closely aligned with president vladimir putin and they documented the decades long effort to undermine democracy. >> the administration is not doing enough to punish russia in the 2016 elections and prepare us for the 2018 election. >> the fancy bear hackers went quiet. but with no solutions on penalizing moscow, the hackers got busy. >> they predict that rogue political complaints are not likely to go away with the olympics and major operations in 2018. in washington. catherine herridge, fox news. gillian: be sure to keep it right here with us at america's news headquarters. at the top of the next hour, 1
p.m., discussing the latest developments in the russia probe with florida congressman ron desantis. mike: searching for missing crew members on an iranian oil tanker are facing fiery conditions. why it's still in flames after colliding with another ship. president trump now says he thinks he has had a good relationship with north korea's kim jong-un, but the u.s. isn't letting up its stance against the hermit kingdom ahead of the olympics. what to expect as we get closer to the opening ceremonies.
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ship's last box. and 29 missing at this hour and the exact cause of that crash is unknown. ♪ >> south korean president moon says the trump administration's tough stance on kim jong-un drove north korea to reopen diplomatic lines, but the trump administration is not softening their stance on the hermit kingdom ahead of the olympics. vice-president mike pence is leading the u.s. delegation in south korea. for this, i want to bring in jack keane, strategy analyst, general, the administration was sort of playing coy when it comes to the u.s. relationship with kim jong-un. the president-- i wants folks at home to take a look. the president said he probably has a very good relationship about kim jong-un. he said that you people, media he was talking to at the time, are surprised and went on to say
when asked when he spoke to kim jong-un. i'm not saying i have or i haven't, i don't want to comment. what do you make of that. >> it's hard to characterize the president's relationship from a distance, but i'm not aware of contact, but that's clearly up to him. he surely does talk to world leaders on a regular basis. gillian: why not just say no? >> looking at it from the outside, i think this is probably the most challenging and difficult relationship that he's got with everybody in the world. clearly, we're on a path here where a military option is on table. there are some negotiations that have taken place, it's talking and chewing at each other, but we've got to have a healthy dose of skepticism here because the north koreans have always used negotiations to advance their technology program and they've used it in the past to obtain goodwill which is obviously going on here, and also, when it's with the south koreans to try to drive a wedge between
ourselves ap the south koreans. so we've got to look at realistically. could something better come of it? we hope so, but that's the way we've got to look at it. gillian: that's the bilateral relationship side. from the military side do you feel there were mixed messages, also. president trump agreed to not go forward with the joint military exercises with south korea until after the olympics. at the same time the department of defense flying b-2 bombers over the region. >> i think we should be doing more on the military side to strengthen the policy change that we made dealing with north korea and that is that the military option is back on the table. that was general mattis, now secretary mattis that made that statement on the first visit to the far east shortly after the inauguration back in january of last year. but here is some things i know the chinese and the north koreans are looking at to determine, is our policy real? why are we still sending
families to south korea with their military spouses? this should now be what we call in the military an unaccompanied tour. like iraq and afghanistan is. we should also be preparing to bring the families that are there home, making the policy changes that are going to be able to accommodate a move with such a sizable population, we should be making plans to bring the american population at home. gillian: who makes that decision, general? is it state department? is it dod? >> in dealing with the military families dod, and the other thing, gillian, if we're going to go to war, there's a possibility we are, director pompeo of the cia said we're months away from the showdown. if that's the case, as we were in iraq and afghanistan, we're an ocean away, which means we have to prepare, theater level logistics, we have to put in place ammunition and we actually have to start moving some forces
that are going to be able to accommodate the reality of that. i also believe while some people would look at that and say those are provocative act, you're going to force north korea to action. i would say rubbish to that. and the provocative act is nuclearizing icbm's and pointing them at america. and those are proven measures that any military force would have to do if they have a credible policy of wanting this to use a military option. and i'm not suggesting all-out war, but a military option, a very limited military option which obviously could escalate to war. gillian: how worried are you about, forget who is more provocative than who, rights? but how worried are you about a move from the trump administration that they necessarily-- they don't necessarily believe is a direct threat, but ends up being a miscalculation that pushes us offense the edge, sort
of unintentionally into war? are you worried about that or not really? >> you have to calculate that and with every option that you put in front of the president, you have to layout what the risks are associated with those options and we have capable people, you know, who know how to do that and certainly, kim jong-un, once he makes the decision to react to some $what he believes is a provocation by the united states and starts a shooting war on a peninsula, that's the end of his regime. that's-- and he knows that, and all the people around him know that. we would crush that regime in a matter of days and he knows it. gillian: the worry is that we, the united states worries then about the south koreans to a degree that kim jong-un probably doesn't, right. >> he doesn't worry about the south koreans. he's just using the south koreans as a vehicle to put some pressure on the united states by driving a wedge between us and the south koreans. gillian: well, some scary stuff, general keane. thanks for your expertise today.
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destinatio destinations. mike: a state of confusion in the state of kansas. the current governor is awaiting a senate confirmation for a position as an ambassador. but while the lt. governor waits to take his place voters are having who is really in charge? alicia acunas is in topeka with the story. >> as congress republican governor sam brownback took the podium for the state of the state address. one question swirled over the office. >> does the state of kansas have two governors? >> no, kansas has one governor brownback and he makes the decisions. >> and colorakoh collier is waie wings as he's expecting a quick confirmation, brownback began handing over duties to colyer. that was six months ago.
>> i teach about politics, one they think i teach you don't count on the u.s. senate to do anything until it's done, especially confirmation. >> the senate ended without a vote on brownback or dozens of other trump nominations and now there is confusion in kansas. >> lt. governor jeff colyer was making appointments and events and governor brownback was doing a tree lighting event or-- the question is who is in charge. >> it's like abbott and coste o costello, who is on first. >> and for appointees didn't make confirmations, thank you, potus, i'll continue as governor. s for the positions requiring it, only 241 nominations have been confirmed by the full u.s. senate. while he waits on washington, brownback appears to be retaking
the reins in kansas. the question remains for how long. >> could he be gone in february, june, later than that? who knows. >> a spokeswoman tells fox news, the renominations could be considered in a timely fashion and they will not require another hearing, but they will need another committee vote before once again heading to the full senate. in topeka kansas, alicia acunas, fox news. gillian: much more ahead in the next hour. president trump says democrats are to blame forestalled immigration reform. why, he says, bipartisan meetings are not working. and from the front lines to the top brass, we'll give you a sneak preview of a brand new series that looks at how the military makes the most important decisions of the day. stick with us.
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>> plus growing criticism of robert mueller's russia investigation and calls for better transparency, we will talk to republican congressman desantis that sits on foreign affairs and judiciary committee. >> we get unprecedented look at our military's fight against isis courtesy of brand new geographic special. >> we want to fight and we want to take care of business here. i know personally i don't want our nation, in fact, any of our allied nations to have to deal with this enemy. so we have to go get after them here today and take care of business. >> and president trump kicks off the long weekend in mar-a-lago with an early morning tweet storm suggesting that lawmakers are far from reaching a deal on daca and accusing democrats of stalling those negotiations. for more on all of this, let's go live to phil keaton in west palm beach. what can you tell us? >> president trump should be wrapping up his morning golf
game at nearby trump international golf club where he arrived this morning in the big long motorcade around 9:30 this morning. as usual scenario in palm beach, he begins the morning bright and early tweeting this morning he was praising the economy and digging at democrats including this one about ongoing daca negotiations, what to do with the estimated 700,000 dreamers in the country. quote, the democrats are all talk, no action, they are doing nothing to fix daca, great opportunity missed, too bad. of course, it was the oval office meeting thursday about daca and immigration which led to the all consuming controversy about what members of both parties confirmed the president said about haiti, el salvador and african nations. leading to these questions after trump's proclamation expanding the martin luther king, jr. historic site friday.
>> mr. president, are you racist? >> florida senator rubio and curbello strongly distanced themselves from the president's remarks including 3,000 haitian americans some who protested the comments yesterday while commemorating eighth anniversary of the country's devastating earthquake. on david lederman netflix show, guest, none other than former president obama. >> one of the things that michelle figured out in some ways faster than i did was, you know, part of your ability to lead the country doesn't have to do with legislation, it doesn't have to do with regulations, it has to do with shaping attitude, shaping culture, increasing awareness.
>> as soon as the president is finished at the golf club, he is expected to then motorcade back to his winter white house at mar-a-lago on palm beach, only about 8 or 10-minute drive and the president has no public events scheduled not only today tomorrow or monday and it is monday afternoon we expect that the president and first lady melania and son baron will be boarding on air force one and returning to the nation's capital. jillian. >> phil, i had to take a double take at david letterman, i barely recognized him. >> i need to grow one. [laughter] >> stay cool at mar-a-lago, thanks, phil. >> president trump has tied daca and immigration to the budget debate and with just days before lawmakers are faced with another potential government shutdown, the clock is ticking for a solution. latest developments.
hi, molly. >> it's no simple task. democrats are saying, let's just focus on young illegal minors first and then get to the rest. but republicans say, not so fast. they want border security too and say they've been promised funding for a border wall before and then the funding didn't come through. >> i'm so mistrustful i think that we keep our promise first and then not give up our leverage until -- until we built that wall. >> but democrats say why wait, they believe they have enough bipartisan support to extend what's called da to -- daca to protect from deportation and also pass the dream act that gives them path to legal status. >> it would takes 4 minutes and we might as well get it done in signal to the american people when we have bigger issues like budget issues, infrastructure bill, like real problems in health care that we ought to address, that congress actually can come together and overcome
what looks like differences. >> legislators had hope today include immigration reform to the bill to keep funding of the federal government but that spending bill has to be done by next friday and it doesn't appear at this point that there's enough agreement to include immigration in that legislation. mike. >> live in washington, molly, thanks a lot. >> more on the battle over budget and immigration, i want to bring in scott wong, senior reporter at the hill. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> take a look at facts on immigration. this is the immigrant population in the united states by country of birth in 2016. it's the latest numbers we've got, total immigration from africa at 2.14 million, el salvador as you can see there is 1.3 million, haiti, just over half a million at 668,000 and norway at 22,000. so allegedly these are the types of figures that the president
was react to go earlier this week in the meeting with lawmakers where he used expletive reportedly. the numbers don't look very high to me. >> well, a number of republicans pointed out that, you know, we all have immigrant backgrounds in our ancestry and so that was the point i believe that lindsey graham made to the president in pushing back to some of the remarks, one of the most personal, i think, responses to the president's controversial comments came from mia love, the first haitian american republican lawmaker to serve in the united states congress, her parents were born in haiti and came to the united states looking for a better future for their family and so i think, you know, some of the backlash that we have seen in response to president trump's is not only coming from the left but republicans as well.
>> if you break down the numbers a little bit, i was just struck -- whether the reporting about the expletive is right or wrong, the numbers like, for example, african immigration today in the united states total is 2 million people, but that's almost 60 countries, i thought it would be a lot higher, i was remarking that, you know, this is not -- this is not an all-time high of immigration as we are being made to believe. i want to ask you also about the president wanting to get rid of the diversity lottery system for visas. he believes this will help put an end to what the administration calls chain migration. he says that what he wants is merit-based immigration, as you know, that essentially means people meet certain qualifications before they are able to come into the country. can you tell us about those qualifications, what they are? >> i don't have any specifics on the qualifications themselves but president trump did -- when lindsey graham and dick durbin brought this plan, bipartisan
plan, you know, essentially it would shift, it would do away with the diversity lottery which is a random lottery program and it would shift some of those 50,000 slots over to the tps program which is the countries like haiti, el salvador. temporary protective status, and the president said, well, let's not deal with those countries, why can't we make this all about merit and, remember, these were comments that he made two days earlier in the televised meeting in the white house who said who would disagree with bringing in people based on -- on a merit system and so this is something that the president has insisted on. he has suggested this to congress. so far, democrats have not signed on board. they are pushing back against the merit-base system and they want other assurances for daca at this point.
so -- >> the administration as far as i can tell has not really clearly defined what those merits are. they've alluded to the idea that people should speak english prior to coming into the united states, that's one qualification, another qualification is that they should be prepared to in some way contribute to the national economy, am i missing anything? >> i don't think we have seen specifics so far. i think what the president is talking about are professionals like doctors, for example, doctors from other countries coming to the united states, graduate students who want to further their education and take advantage of the good colleges in the united states. those are examples of the types of people that president trump is saying let's make this all about merit, let's take the best and brightest from around the world and let them come to the country rather than ran do --
random lottery drawing. >> how do those qualifications compare to refugee population? the united states agreeing to take people who are fleeing prosecution, war, terror around the world, are we going to keep refugees in separate categories or they'll get bundled into the immigrant populations, the merit-based folks? >> i think that's what's being discussed. if you do away completely with the lottery system, the plan, the bipartisan plan that lindsey graham and dick durbin put forward would have shifted 50,000 slots over to countries that are dealing with either manmade disasters, civil war, strife or natural disasters like we saw in el salvador and in haiti. these are -- there's a lot of questions that still have not been resolved. the president's comments, controversial remarks have only sort of inflamed the situation. i think democrats and
republicans have been driven into the respective corners. that's not a great place to be with four legislative days before a government shutdown. >> yeah, as you point out, a lot of loose ends, a lot of major questions here that will affect all americans that need to be hammered out on the hill, in the white house in the next four days, thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> mike. >> third high profile republican has thrown her name into arizona seat, martha mcsally officially announced candidacy friday. former air force colonel and first female fighter pilot took a world war ii fighter plane to campaign tieing her service record into how she'll work in the senate. >> i'm running my race and we want to make sure that people in arizona know options and i'm working with the president. you look at my voting record, even though i'm in split district, i have to most reliable record
with the president and i continue to vote with him. i was at the white house this week and i've been invited other times to talk about health care, tax reform, infrastructure and now immigration and i'm honored about that. >> mcsally faces competition for the republican nomination, former arizona sheriff joe arpaio and former senator, state senator kelly ward. that should be a heck of the race for the republican nomination. >> you know, i have to say, a woman fighter pilot throwing her hat in the ring, not a day too soon, this is the kind of thing that americans all across the country have been calling for. >> jeff flake is retiring so they are throwing their hat in there. >> yeah, feeling good about that. brand-new details emerging on the las vegas mass shooter from last year and just how meticulous he was in covering up his trail leading up to that deadly massacre? plus a major milestone for firefighters in the state of
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>> embattled former trump administration chief strategists steve bannon expect today speak with the house intelligence committee this week, but to members of congress say they want more transparency on what exactly that committee has discovered so far. congressman ron desantis joins me now from the great state of florida. congressman, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> you sent a letter to house speaker paul ryan this week, what do you want the speaker to do, sir? >> well, we have the ability in our house rules to declassify, classify documents that are in the possession of committee and we had major breakthrough with doj and fbi finally agreed to provide the information regarding the trump dossier, the fisa surveillance, all those questions that we've had for months and i think all the members of congress will eventually be read into that and even people not on the intelligence committee will be
able to review it and i think that's good, but to me that's inadequate. i think the american people need to know how this information was used, did you have one administration spying on the campaign of an opposing party and i have report that is the dossier was, in fact, use today get fisa surveillance on a trump associate and one of the questions i have is, did the fbi when they got the dossier, did they know that that was a democratic-party funded document and still went ahead and used it, that's bad. but if they didn't know the genesis of it, the origin of it and still used it, that's also bad. so i think there's a lot of questions that need to be answered and the best way to do it is cut through the smoke and des classify and make it public. >> we have a public of january 9th letter here, have you gotten any response from speaker and his team so far? >> so i talked to the speaker last week about getting in all the members of congress read into this. he was very open to that. i think the speaker has done a good job on this.
he has backed devin nunes, he told rosenstein you have to produce the stuff. i think the speaker will be open to this and i talked to chairman nunes and he's definitely trying to move forward with invoke declassification order from his committee which is great. >> there are great patriotic professional with n the fbi but what are your concerns about the role of some at the fbi as it relates to the house intelligence committee investigation? well, you're right, we have phenomenal fbi agents serving all over the country and all over the world, my fear with all of this is the bad actions of a few people like peter strzok who said we can't take risk of trump presidency and lisa page, that their political actions and the way they conducted themselves will make the bureau look bad. i still have confidence in the fbi at large but i think there's been a problem with the leadership going back to the hillary e-mail investigation and then through this trump
so-called russia collusion investigation that is going to need to be addressed. we have seen it be addressed so far to a certain extent. comey has been fired. mccabe is on the way out, peter strzok in administrative position, so let's just get all the facts, let's hold people accountable and let's move forward. we need a strong fbi and i'm 100% in favor of a strong law enforcement. >> this is not the first rodeo, do you expect the documents will be declassified, congressman? >> i think there's a very good chance that they will be, yes, because the public interest is in intense in this and you declassify in a way that if there is some type of source and method you can protect that but still get the information out to the people. >> there were high-profile issues at the irs several years ago, should anyone be surprised that some at the fbi may have played politics? >> well, i think that's a good point, l oh, -- lerner was not
not appointed by the obama administration. the outer veneer they may not be, they can often act in partisan ways, lerner did that to the hill and peter strzok and lisa page text messages, they had bias against donald j. trump, they did not want him to be president and we wanted to make sure there was an insurance policy to prevent it. >> congressman, are you getting all the answers you want on the steel dossier and the information at this stage? >> well, we haven't gotten them all yet but i think the fact that this information will be provided to the congress is a huge step forward, it's a big victory for us. we are going to get all the answers one way or another, i wish we would have gotten them sooner but over the next probably two months between this and then the ig report with the hillary e-mail investigation, i
think you're going to see a lot of scrutiny on how the obama doj handled these cases in 2016. >> congressman ron desantis of the great state of florida, i look forward to seeing you on the hill, sir. >> thank you. >> thanks for your time. gillian: after heated election virginia now has its now governor, democrat ralph northum who defeated ed gillespie was sworn in today at noon in richmond, he addressed a crowd of about 4,000 spectators who braved very cold weather to watch. northum called for unity amongst all virginians. >> it can be hard to find a way in a time that there's so much shouting, when nasty shallow tweets take the place of honest debate, if you felt that way, i want you listen to me right now, we are bigger than this. so help me god. [cheers and applause]
>> northum, 73rd governor in the state's history. >> after holding bipartisan meetings on immigration and daca earlier in the week, president trump is now slamming democrats over what he's called a missed opportunity. the president took to twitter this morning saying, democrats are, quote, all talk and no action. for more on the immigration debate let's bring in fair and balance panel brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to president george w. bush and al, member of clinton finance team, former member of the clinton finance team, easy for me to say. gentlemen, thanks for your time. >> great to be here. >> brad, let's start with you, your thoughts on president lashing out on democrats in twitter? >> i think he's dudley right. democrats did not come in the bipartisan meeting with any intention in dealing in good faith. how do we know that, dick durbin outraged over what the president may have said at the meeting. and when he left the white house, he didn't go to sticks,
in front of the press corp and show his outrage, this was calculated that they will policy, want government shutdown, they don't want a deal on immigration, they think they with get away with blaming the trump administration, the president went to deal in good faith, he said it during the meeting we saw a week ago, he said it it was a bipartisan commit yes we saw a few days ago and democrats have taken attack that he couldn't be dealt with, they choose to attack him. >> that's the best spin i have ever heard. the president engaged engaged il vitriol. when ronald reagan left she talked about shining city in the hill, he talked about a place that had doors that were open in anyone in world. and dick durbin and all democrats did come in good faith
and the president should be commended for that meeting and that was a bipartisan, great discussion, he unraveled the whole thing with what he said. >> my guess is plenty of presidents from both parties have used colorful language at times behind closed doors, brad, are you surprised the president did it in bipartisan meeting which it was the other night? >> no, there are some words and, of course, the president he said denies the word alleged, let me tell you something, in negotiation, specially with legislators things are going to be said that are never intended to public con summing. it's the heat of the moment. there's also context to what was said. what happened before the harsh word that the president used. he agreed he used harsh words and didn't agree he used those words. and the democrats, i guess they never listened to lbj tapes where he used not only foul language but racial language against black americans, so when
dick durbin said language has never been used in the oval office, then he should be listening to the lbj tapes and lbj, what was he able to do, he passed civil rights legislation and the president wanted to deal in good faith, the democrats, they renigged on that. >> look, no one is denying that he said it other than one man, the president who has a history of saying things that are a little untrue. what we have here is a situation, it's so sad because this is a look right into his dark soul, these are chilling and disparaging comments. you do so to emerge from tough situation. we should want people with fortitude and wherewithal to come here. >> we are heading into, perhaps, potential government shutdown in less than a week, he needs to
get democrats that vote for some things, to get some things across the finish line, what about the timing and what about the week ahead. >> i still think we are going to get through. i don't believe they'll be a shut down. >> i hope you're correct. i hope that there isn't a shutdown. we shouldn't be politicizing the -- the economy and the health of the american workers and that's federal workers and private workers that will be affected by government shutdown. we shouldn't be doing that. we shouldn't be holding people hostage and i do believe daca, if democrats want to work in good faith there's still opportunity to do it. he's probably the most transactional president. >> what about the democrats who try today link daca to some of the funding talks, feeling they have leverage because democratic votes will be needed to get things across finish line, how does that play out, does this get separated, we tried on daca, let's do it in march, where are
we going there? >> there's still not much time but i'm hopeful that they'll be bipartisan deal that includes border security and daca protections. a bunch of senators came with proposal that included that, there's a chance. again, the comments make it tougher because that riles up the base for good reason. >> nobody would have ever known about those comments had the democrats not rushed out in a coordinated effort. >> fascinating discussion, gentlemen, thanks for your time. >> good to be with you. gillian: it's often hard for civilians to understand exactly what the members of our military are up against when fighting isis and other extremist groups overseas, when we come back after the break, we will take a close look at new documentary that has unprecedented access to the men and women fighting extremism across the globe. >> if they're out there and they're driving in their
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not the only airport seeing headaches, bryan llenas joins with the latest. >> hey, mike, chaos in americas airports, one air traffic controller, what he called a, quote, horror show, jfk airport at new york city. dozens and dozens of planes sat on the tarmac for hours filled with passengers, thousands of bags were delayed or never made it to destinations, people slept at the airport for a couple days and then a water main broke flooding the international terminal. so weeks before that, the world's busiest airport hartsfield in atlanta lost power canceling flights and recent airport fiascoes are underscored infrastructure concerns at our nation's airports, so the american society of civil engineers recently gave our nation's airports a d grade, airport congestion is on the rise, asce is expected that 24
of the top 30 major airports in this country may soon experience thanksgiving peak traffic volume at least one day every week. you look at the graphic, last month the nation's airports released reports saying they require $100 billion in infrastructure needs between now and 2021 because of this congestion. that price tag has gone up 32% in just two years. airports want congress to eliminate caps on passenger facility charges, they want the faa to allow them to charge more than the max 4.50 per passenger so they can invest money in infrastructure. meanwhile there are efforts to modernize air traffic control systems, the president wants to privatize stripping responsibility from the federal aviation administration and given the responsibility to independent nongovernmental administration. they believe will speed up
nationwide and faa is handling the next gen program, updating 1950's era radar systems to satellite radar technology which would lead to less delays and more efficient performance and hope to be done by 2025. currently there's congressional group called the problem solver's caucus, they are trying to draft the trillion dollar infrastructure deal, we will see what happens. >> bryan llenas on travel drama and elsewhere, bryan, many thanks. >> of course. gillian: now from the halls of the pentagon to front lines in afghanistan, iraq and south america, new documentary gives you, viewers a front row seat to battle against extremism. >> the number one priority for us is to protect the homeland and the american people from an attack and also to protect allies from attack against
violent extremists. the most important things is to surround yourself with good people and take advantage of the talent that we have in the u.s. military. gillian: filmed over the course of 18 months, the series with never before seen images from the front line of war. scott is the executive producer of chain of command, the series, premiers monday and he joins me now live, scott, this is just incredible project and excited to have you with us to tell us a little bit more about it. i want to ask you first a question about timing, essentially why now, you know, the wars in iraq and afghanistan have been raging for 16 plus areas, what made you and then the pentagon decide that this -- this story needed to be told today? >> it's a very important story that we are telling. ithas been years in discussion between national geographic and
national geographic studios and with the department of defense. you know, as you had mentioned earlier, we started feeling about -- about a year and a half ago and we started very slowly and when you do this type of show, it's -- it's all built on trust because we are allowed into privileged worlds that have never been, you know, they never had cameras allowed before and we wanted to do it through the eyes of men and women who are most involved in the fight against extremism. >> you talk about footage, things that have never been allowed, access that has never been given before, one of those as i understand it, we have never gotten to see live footage from inside an f-22 before, is that right, and we see that in the series? >> that's correct, combat mission, that's exactly right and so these are the worlds in
which -- which through discussion and through, you know, obviously these are sensitive worlds and these environments that we are in are extremely fluid at times but a chain of command is really a collection of soldier stories. it is about the men and women who serve. it's told through their eyes, you get a greater depth of the larger stories, the larger story, you get a greater depth of their mission but you understand their sacrifice, you understand the commitment and, you know, as we go into these worlds, what we describe you're in the room and the way we define a room you could be in the drone room just on the outskirts of mosul or in the cockpit or you can be with a father and a mother who are saying good-bye to, you know, their three kids under 5 as they
are about to deploy to afghanistan. now, there have been many, many documentaries on the great men and women who serve in these environments -- gillian: but i don't think, scott, not one that we know of where you really get inside the minds of service members and their families and get to see life sort of through their eyes from their perspective. i wanted to ask you particularly about one thing that really struck me when i was reading about the project, the strategic plans that are hatched by top military brass at the pentagon have the sort of real, very real effects for service members and affected trajectory of entire lives, service members on the ground and one of the things you really wanted to do here was sort of connect the dots so that folks understood that, do you feel like you got any answers? >> you know, it was -- it's playing out over, you know, a
section of time where we started, for example, with the battle of mosul. we were there at the beginning, right when they kicked off and we were there towards the end and that plays out in the first four episodes. so through the men and women on both u.s. side and also with the iraqi forces, you understand their mission, you understand the complexity of that environment. you see, like you said, in the drone rooms in several occasions and you understand how difficult it is and you get greater depth of the fight for mosul. gillian: i'm sorry to interrupt you, we have to leave it there, we are out of time, everybody stay tune, look for the series premiering on monday on net geo, scott, thank you for bringing the story to us. >> thank you. gillian: mike. mike: back to fox news alert
now, more details on the frightening moment for citizens in hawaii when a ballistic missile alert was sent to citizens by mistake. democratic congresswoman tried to reassure hawaii residents on twitter and reiterated that the alert is a false alarm. people in hawaii received this warning just after 8:00 o'clock in the morning stating that a ballistic missile was inbound but authorities have said alert was sent out by mistake. for more let's bring in lucas thompson, pentagon producer, lucas, i know you talked to folks at pacific command, what are they saying? >> mike, they are saying this was a false alarm, a message being pushed out by hawaii's emergency management system, there's no word right now on why this message was sent out, it was simply somebody hitting the wrong key or was this a possible hack of the system which has been a strong concern for a lot of people involved.
you know, the biggest problem is, who wants to wake up in the island of hawaii to this kind of message when you have a pga tournament, country club, millions of people living their lives on saturday morning wake up and the first thing they see on phone checking text messages is take cover, seek shelter a ballistic missile is inbound. it has been put in place recently because of north korea testing successfully intercontinental missiles last year. >> of course, folks in hawaii have been on edge with the north korean regime and have been practicing what what happens if there's an emergency situation. we have video we can show folks at home exactly what they've been doing in hawaii to prepare. [sirens] >> and that was the sound people have not heard since world war ii. mike: excellent, point, lucas,
imagine waking up to that on saturday morning in picturesque hawaii and thinking there's incoming missile from investigator korean regime and must be alarming and people might be quite rattled. we don't know the cause. >> right now there's no cause in why the message was sent out inadvertently. mike: quite alarming situation, thank god it was a false alarm. lucas thompson, thank you for reporting. >> credits for congresswoman telling everybody not to panic. mike: no doubt about it. thank you, lucas. gillian: kudos for the congresswoman for getting that info and getting out to constituents. i can't imagine bone-chilling out on saturday, living your life with your family and you hear, you know, the sounds of those alarms are very, very
eerie. mike: absolutely. reminds nuclear alerts of when you were growing pup. gillian: of course. and you have no sense of what the danger really is, you know, the folks on the ground hearing this for the first time didn't know that it was potentially a missile or something else. you imagine that, you know, doom and gloom is a few seconds out. it must be terrible. mike: it took a while to find out whether this was legit or this was a false alarm, she sent the tweet out and hopefully a lot of folks in hawaii got the information promptly and were able to calm down pretty quickly. but just stunning when you consider the world we live in these days, the north koreans doing all kinds of test in the fear that perhaps it's not going to be a test or false alarm. >> we are hearing that there was 35 minutes, mike, between the alarm and then the all-clear, the mistake being declared. so that's an awful long time for
folks on the ground to be left wondering and maybe panicking about what has happened. 35 minutes. mike: yeah. gillian: unbelievable. mike: you can imagine the panic at 8:00 o'clock in the morning, what, we are under attack, we have to run, load up the family, where do we go? is it nuclear? gillian: we should probably stop complaining about the weather on the east coast. mike: exactly right. thankfully false alarm in hawaii and thankfully that congress woman tulsi gabbard grot the information and alerted constituents and were able to calm down 35 minutes after the initial alert went out. all kinds of investigation now to try to figure out whether somebody pressed the button, whether there was a hacking, exactly what led to this, but a tough way to start your day in hawaii, imagine folks on vacation or people who live there who are living under the threat of north korea, hearing those sirens first thing this
morning. gillian: you know, that will be the million dollar question now going forward is the investigation into what exactly went wrong. i don't know if we still have lucas with us but maybe we can ask him, lucas, do you have a sense of what the procedure is of taking this forward, how they can rectify the situation or prevent it from happening in the future? >> although it's not a u.s. military system, hawaii's emergency management system, this is a lot like amber alert set up and better or for worse, now in technology can reach out people very quickly. within minutes, millions of people on the island of hawaiis had message saying the missile was inbound. in terms of investigation, they're going to have to go back in the logs and find out, interview all the people and something on the keyboard or is it more sinister and that is all
the systems are prone to hacks, outside actors, somebody trying to have a little bit of fun, great cost and we now to find out in hawaii how bad people were impacted, anybody drive off the road, anybody, you know, freak out at home and you also have pga golf tournament, people living their lives and also big events that go in hawaii around the clock. mike: in post 9/11 world you don't take things for granted, anything less than quite deadly serious and you can only imagine the panic people felt in hawaii. thankfully it was a false alarm, all kinds of information now to figure out how to prevent this from happening in the future. you don't want to cry golf from constituents and leave house, run, and then god forbid there's an attack of some sort, emergency at some point, you don't want people to say, it's
another false alarm. gillian: everybody because false sense when it comes to these kinds of alert that really do at the end of the day end up saving lives, protecting people, lucas made a really interesting chilling point that i hadn't thought of which is, perhaps this wasn't a mistake, perhaps this was some kind of motivated attack against the united states by an infiltrator, we don't know, this is just speculation, of course, at this hour but if this was not an accident, who is the perpetrator and how can they be stopped and how can this be -- how can we prevent this from happening again, it's very scary. mike: if you are just joining us, folks in hawaii woke up to alert on their phones telling them there was an emergency, perhaps an incoming missile, 35 minutes later, democratic congressman tulsi gabbard got the information that it was
false alarm and there's no incoming missile and there's no incoming missile and so the question is at this point, the breaking news trying to figure out why this happened, who is responsible, was it a mistake, was it a hacking, these days we don't feel like our personal information is secure and so it's a foreign actor or what caused this. >> lucas, i want to ask you while we still got you on the line here, we are hearing from u.s. pacific command, from the spokesperson, they are confirming that it was a false alarm, do you know -- do you have anything else on that, can you tell us what you're hearing from your sources? >> gillian, the u.s. pacific command is based in hawaii and they track all of north korea's ballistic launches and when they put out the statement, people with rest assure not only are actors, these are the guys and
women that you track this type of missile launches, they could make that judgment. gillian: while we have you, i want to get viewers the benefit of tapping into your expertise, can you tell us a word about pacific commands mission and what they do more broadly? >> the u.s. pacific command is the largest combatant command in the world leading the u.s. military, the pentagon has divided the world into different sections, the pacific, u.s. pacific command based in hawaii in pearl harbor runs all u.s. military operations, army, navy, air force, marines, in the entie pacific region, southern pacific, all the way to hawaii and parts of the pacific. so you're talking about hundreds of warships based in hawaii, you're talking about ships based -- gillian: lucas, we have to
me. the heaters don't work. willful blindness to trump's triumphs and how the fbi and doj can stop the bleeding. that's the focus of tonight angle. think about how reporters would handle things under this hypothetical. hillary clinton, not donald trump, won the presidency in 2016. i realize that's terrifying to contemplate, but bear with me for just a second. imagine that bill is too old to chase intern so she isn't distracted by any new scandals, and somehow during her first year in office, hillary oversees a stock market rocketing up, there's a big drop in unemployment, including among minority workers, and imagine this, imagine consumer confidence, business investment, even wages in certain sectors, all up. imagine hillary announcing that dozens of american run businesses are bringing jobs back to the united states. they are doling out thousand
actually some even trying to give obama credit for all of 2017s good economic news. >> he thinks it started from the day he became president when in fact he inherited good conditions. >> i thought barack obama did turn around the economy to bring it back from the precipice with tough action. >> mr. trump inherited an economy that was in full recovery for blacks and whites from president obama. now he's taking credit for picking up somebody at the end of a trip that somebody else broke the trip. >> laura: somebody else drove the trip. i don't even know what he's talking about. to add insult to injury, even while business leaders do credit trump's tax cut with all the deregulation, what's the big business story of today? here it is. a new reuters poll claiming that just 2% of americans have gotten a raise, a bonus or other benefits from trump's tax cuts.
okay, kids, here's a lesson from laura. you usually get a benefit from a tax cut when you pay your taxes. everyone is going to benefit except for upper income earners. hello? and from the trump tax plan, they will see more money in their pockets come april when most people pay their taxes. most people don't pay quarterly. we will see if at that point reuters runs another poll just to see if people are happier or benefiting. a far more telling survey from the national association of business economics finds that company say sales and profits rose at the end of last year and nearly half of the respondents say they are now paying more in wages and in salaries to their employees. this is news that we've been waiting for and that will benefit workers long term. it's about time people had a
raise. i promise you, if hillary clinton had had this record, the praise would be deafening on the eve of her state of the union. meanwhile, the media spent the day blaming the real president for the voluntary resignation of fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. >> the president play this very active, public role in pressuring the justice department to get rid of mccabe. >> so far the white house is saying the president was not involved in this, was not pushed at all. it seems hard to believe that. >> this is yet another instance of the president bullying and pressuring law enforcement agencies he's concerned about investigating him. >> if anybody thinks in the justice department -- >> laura: media bias at nbc, that's my question. the only problem with that lovely scenario they painted, there's no evidence to indicate that trump is responsible for the resignation. do we really want to deputy director of the fbi who was so
nomadic recused himself from both probes. there was a "new york times" story tonight suggesting that fbi director christopher wray was concerned about the findings of a forthcoming government investigation into the fbi and into mccabe's conduct. that's the inspector general's report. the time source said that the director and mccabe had a frank conversation about that report and apparently a demotion was discussed for mccabe. whatever the explanation for his departure, i say this, it's about time. there's a larger point being lost in the mccabe blame game. the president is actually trying to restore confidence and law enforcement institutions that i think for a long time have been used as political instruments. there are a lot of great rank-and-file people, at the at the overwhelming majority. but when the leadership appears to have a political ax to grind, nobody is served by that. it's time to cleanse the upper tiers of the justice department and the fbi of all partisanship.
media from the moment the story broke on all the other channels and on nbc, cbs, it was trump to blame? >> to blame is mccabe and to blame is comey and anybody else at the senior levels of the fbi. this is quite a disgrace for the for the bureau. as someone who worked with the bureau, i'm truly saddened by the fall from grace for everybody there. make no mistake about it, this was a plot to exonerate hillary clinton illegally and then if she lost the election, to frame donald trump with a legal crime. this was the worst period in the history of the bureau, much worse than the late hoover period when they were spying on domestic groups. this is the weaponization of the fbi for political purposes by all the people at the upper echelon of the bureau. i think it's really time for people in the other party who seem to make nothing but excuses
for the senior people at the bureau and the department of justice, may i say, to kind of wake up and see that what's coming now is the federal grand jury and it's not going to be pretty. >> laura: you represented the bureau in the public domain and you are the spokesperson for the bureau. your reaction to today's developments in the effort to blame donald trump for the early retirement of the deputy director? >> they'd been talking for some time that he was looking to go on terminal leave and exit the bureau. i think that was hastened as a result of the director just yesterday going to the hill, looking at the information that went into this dossier. but i will tell you, no president, whether it's trump, obama or anyone else, tells the fbi which i do. the fbi is independent. they are there for the people. to think for a minute that a sitting president would be able to push out a deputy director, that goes against everything the fbi has stood for for the past
hundred nine years. >> laura: did you speak to mccabe a few weeks ago? >> i happen to be at headquarters a few weeks ago and chatted with him briefly. >> laura: what did he say? >> we didn't talk about him possibly leaving. at that time he was in the office while the director was out on other business so essentially he's the man in charge. it seemed to be business as usual. however, everybody in the bureau knew that mccabe's days would be running short because of the history. if it was time for the bureau to move on with a clean slate and get back to the work that the fbi does. >> laura: joe, he wanted to leave in the spring. the ig report is coming out in the spring. but it's a wild coincidence, if indeed the fbi director strolls up to capitol hill on sunday, reads this very short report, four pages, and then it just so
happens that monday, mccabe is like you know something, i would rather go skiing in breckenridge for the next two weeks. i'm not going to be doing this work any longer. >> according to "the new york times" in the latest publications, christopher wray was shocked on sunday when he read the four pages. first of all, if that's the case, where has he been since he was sworn in? there is enough evidence on the public record. with the information from the inspector general and from the hill with the legal release of documents that it was clear that mr. mccabe and others had engaged in highly improper, probably illegal activity in the fisa court stuff along with the dossier from christopher steele. first of all, mccabe should have been gone a long time ago and so should strzok and page and all the people involved in this. this is a dark moment for the fbi. it's going to take a lot for
them to recover from this. >> laura: we had jim comey tweeting after the mccabe news came out. he's tweeting quite a bit. very poetic. he sat special agent andrew mccabe stood tall over the last eight months. he always makes height references, i wonder why. one small people were trying to tear down an institution will depend on. he served with distinction for two decades, i wish andy well. i also wish continued strength for the rest of the fbi. america needs you. john, what you make of the comey tweets? small people, tall people. he's 6'8", by the way. >> mccabe is part of comey's legacy. andrew mccabe did a lot of good things in the bureau during his career, but it doesn't matter. when you were doing something wrong, that is the time that it has to be stopped immediately. i had some very good agents that
made an unfortunate mistake along the way. >> laura: he was the guy to whom peter strzok reported, correct? >> absolutely. >> laura: mccabe could have, joe, we're almost out of time, mccabe could have used one of the regular field office set of investigators to do both the clinton and the trump investigation. perfection also could run this thing and run it right. he chose to put together this team, correct? kind of an unfortunate mistake. >> comey was a dirty cop and he dirtied up everybody else around him. >> laura: we also have a huge development, by the way in the rush or pro. a house committee of course has begun investigating the investigators. up next, we will talk to a congressman who voted tonight to publicly release that memo that could spell big trouble for both the fbi and doj. coming up. starting with advanced manufacturing
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adam schiff, the top ranking democrat on the committee is wasting no time expressing his outrage. >> today this committee voted to put the president's personal interests, perhaps their own political interests above the national interests. >> laura: we also learned tonight that the intel committee has opened an investigation into the doj and the fbi. joining us now to discuss these developers, congressman chris stewart, a member of the intel committee from utah. great to see you, when can we expect this memo to be released? >> i would love it release to make. >> laura: it's in your pocket, i want that memo. pull it out, let's go. >> hopefully soon. it's important for the american people to see it. i hope he doesn't. >> laura: this is what mark walker, a republican from north carolina, said earlier today. let's watch. >> if your audience or if somebody is believing that this is the end all smoking gun, it isn't. does it name names? does it prevent some very
intriguing facts that makes you ask even more questions to mike to make the case that this is the most shocking document in the history of mankind, i believe that's a little hyperbole. >> laura: are you guys engaged in hyperbole? >> i can tell you i haven't been. some people have and we have actually cautioned against that. this is an important document. it's very important for the american people. the process. i listen to mr. schiff and my head just wants to explode. my father was an air force pilot. to accuse us of saying we would endanger national security is just silliness. this memo doesn't do that. what it does do is ask these questions, was the fbi fair? for the accurate? we've been making accusations, serious accusations, they've been called traders, treasonous. for more than a year now. did the fbi make those kinds of
accusations against innocent people with laughable evidence? that's the kind of think this memo will address. >> laura: congressman gates from florida has been a frequent guest on the show. to listen to congressman gates, this is just got barn burner of a memo. i think people have gotten your hopes up that this guy's going to go and end this person will lose his job and maybe this one will go to jail. i always find that republicans tend to, sorry, be bad storytellers. i'm worried about that, as our other congressmen to whom i've spoken in the last 48 hours. >> we kind of get, try to get people to temper their language. i can't speak for what everyone has said, but this memo is very factual. it's not emotional. it doesn't draw any conclusions, it just lays out the facts and let you draw the conclusions. >> laura: nancy pelosi spoke about an hour ago and i know you haven't seen it, so this is a gift for you, let's watch. >> they have made up a memo if that isn't even true, and they are lying to the american people. >> what are you going to do about it?
>> the republican party, as i said, has crossed over to cover up. they are deadly afraid of the russia investigation. >> the fbi recently's selected by president trump, he got the memo. he could have, and said -- >> with due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. >> laura: she really gave it to chris cuomo. as she read it? >> i don't know. >> laura: i want to know. >> we had members of the department of justice over the weekend saying was reckless to release this memo when they had not read it. they didn't know what was in it. they were making accusations that they have no knowledge of. >> laura: where his sessions in all of this? what has he said? he is the head of the justice department in which the fbi resides. is he just not going to comment because russia? i recuse myself to all things related to russia, which i still don't understand. >> i think is one of the most
decent, honorable men. >> i would say he has recused himself from one of the most important -- >> laura: you can't recuse yourself if you're going to be attorney general. >> i said it was you had not done that because you have i think you have an obligation to step aside and let the department to be led by someone who will not step aside. >> laura: you are saying sessions can't leave this department? >> i've set it in the past, it's unfair for him, it's unfair for what we are trying to accomplish. >> laura: are there other people who are agreeing with you other than the few with quota publicly? >> i think there are a few. >> laura: i love jeff sessions. for some reason, i'm concerned about this. great on immigration, good on some of the enforcement. gang stuff. frankly, the marijuana enforcement, which i think is good to give discretion to the field officers. this investigation, i'm sorry, was a fraud from the beginning. rod rosenstein wet himself when he went over to the hill and is
worried about answering questions. that just doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. >> these accusations in his testimony, that's just nuts. he was answering the question as he understood it. but unfortunately this city she was good people sometimes. >> laura: that's why you can't be recusing yourself and naming rod rosenstein as her deputy. we look forward to the release, and if you can give it to me before the end of the hour i would appreciate it. as congress struggles to find an immigration solution, that's a big deal for you guys, there's already a great plan in the senate that would address all the pressing problems, really? one of the authors of that bill, senator david perdue joins us with the details next. to you. oh no. well, you know, you're getting older. um, you might be experiencing some, ah, sensations. can't wait to be rescued? esurance roadside assistance lets you know when help will arrive. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance. click or call.
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protections expired for about 800,000 of the so-called dreamers. democrats rejected president trump's offer last week of amnesty for nearly 2 million illegal immigrants in exchange for border security and illegal immigration cuts. but another plan exists that should be put on the table. republican senator david perdue is one of the men behind it. he joins us now with more. senator, always great to see you. i ran into you and a new event on saturday and i said you better come on the show, and here you are, so thank you. you and tom cotton in my view came up with an original idea that kind of in some ways mirrors what was going on in the hill with goodlatte and mike mccall. it was focused on the 800,000 daca people who are not kids, they are adults now for the most part. you did the chain migration, end of that, and a visa lottery. three or afforded later suddenly it's at 1.8 million. how did you go from 800 to 1.8
and was that thought process because you needed to pick up a few people? >> it's great to see you. a year ago you had tom cotton and myself on here and we started then with a very conservative approach of this to solve the legal immigration problem once and for all. we warned about the diversity lottery and we said we needed an end to chain migration. what we've done there, the president has laid out, i believe, a framework that is ingenious, because we will find out if people are really serious about solving this immigration problem on both sides. i think we have the framework to actually get it done. >> laura: my listeners are livid. i don't mess on their show for the last three or four days and when did he campaign on this? my point is that if you want cuts in legal immigration, which is the big number, 1 million green cards every year, most of those are based not on merit but on extended family ties, aunts, uncles, cousins twice removed. i'm not an amnesty person. i think it hurts people's
feelings and sensibilities who have been waiting in line for a long time. what you say to those americans, americans were upset and the people waiting in line? >> the president has really laid out he wants an end to daca. what that means is he wants to provide -- they're not going to get in front of anybody, but what he is also done is given the conservatives of his party what he promised he would do, a safe and secure border with the wall. he wants to end chain migration, the most insidious part of this. it's what's caused us to be here. and we know we have a security issue with the diversity lotter lottery. >> laura: chain migration, i got to play this for you, kristen gillibrand, she's already kicking off her campaign practically, her views on chain migration. >> i think a lot of president trump's rhetoric is racist, and let's be very clear, when someone uses the phrase "chain migration," it is intentional trying to demonize
families, literally trying to demonize families and make it a racist slur. >> it's very interesting. they were out of touch when they tried to shut the government down. the shimmer shutdown. the idea, the term chain migration was termed by lyndon b. johnson, i think he was a democrat. bill clinton also called for an end when he and barbara jordan wanted to go to a merit based system like canada and australia. this is nothing more than democrats revealing how far out of touch they are. two-thirds wants to entry migration and the lottery fix the daca problem and build that wall. >> laura: she kept saying chained migration. she kept changing the term. >> totally. >> laura: some of the polls america the one migration. 68% oppose the visa lottery. 81% want legal immigration reduced. that's always the case whether it's the gallup poll or the
harvard harris poll that just came out. 61% think border security is inadequate. steve king was on my show on friday, he said this. >> the numbers are just stunning. it to see that president trump has proposed 1.8 million amnesty for illegals. i think this will demoralize so very many of his supporters and how do we get back now to a place where we need to be with this? >> the answer is very simple. keep our eyes focused on the prize. the prize is the problems that got us focused here in the first place. chain migration on the lottery. >> laura: no more amnesty after this? this will be the last? >> this is the idea, to end the problem in the first place. >> laura: will they make you go up to 3 million, 4 million, i will say 5 million? >> if we do nothing it will be 7 million or more. this is an opportunity to stop this once and for all.
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>> laura: check this out, the media have bombarded us with stories suggesting that first lady melania trump is acting like a woman scorned. cnn, for instance, turned it into melania-gate and declared the first lady has gone awol. >> these past couple weeks she's been laying low. >> i would think so, because of course there have been some cringe-inducing stories in the first few weeks of this year. >> we can only look at those clues like last saturday when she posted on twitter, the anniversary of the inauguration with herself and a military escort from that date, not her husband. no mention of her husband. >> she was scheduled to travel with the president but canceled last minute. yesterday she left west palm beach, florida, and was back on the plane today. we don't know the reason for the trip. >> mott moving to the white house immediately was unprecedented. five months after he moved and she moved in. of course the fact that they have separate bedrooms. >> laura: oh, my god, .
my next guest believes melania trump, get this, actually despises her husband. that's what sarah wrote an article on the website called nylon. she wrote that the day. she joins us now from philly. okay, sarah, you look like a very young woman, very accomplished. you are a writer, you've written all sorts of stuff out there for various publications. how is it being a feminist for you to question another woman's lifestyle choices, whatever they are, whatever she decides to be. why are you passing judgment on them and questioning them? >> i don't think i'm judging her life choices. if to be fair, i guess i would judge a woman who would choose to marry donald trump. he is truly a disgusting human being. i think that's like a nonpartisan issue. >> laura: that's not judging at all. >> that donald trump is disgusting? i think it's pretty much back at
this point. >> laura: looked at our camera, so our listeners get the full sarah here. go ahead. >> i think donald trump is disgusting. i would say that is a fact. my story was more about how it wouldn't be surprising if a person married to donald trump was disgusted by him. i personally can't imagine a worse person being married to the donald trump. she's miserable. >> laura: let me get this straight, you are a reporter and you are writing about melania trump as if she's a political actor here and you are saying but that's a fact. use that donald trump is disgusting, that's a fact. you are a writer, so you know when you use the word disgusting, that's a subjective statement. it is not a fact. it is a fact that he's president of united states. it is not a fact that he is disgusting. you and your liberal friends could sit around talking about how awful the country is under donald trump. i grant you that, you think that. but how are you to judge another
woman's choice about her relationship, and did you do the same, for instance, when hillary clinton stood by her man, when hillary clinton decided to fire or not fire someone who would reportedly sexually harassed someone on her campaign staff. we are making judgments about that or you reserve it for melania trump because you think her husband is disgusting? >> i wasn't covering the clintons, i was too young for that. with hillary, of course i would criticize her for doing that. >> laura: was her husband discussing? >> who, bill clinton? you just continuing to be like, what about these democrats, is not really an argument. you should be able to speak critically about the trump administration. your whole segment has just been talking about democrats and what they are covering. >> laura: what i'm trying to do, sarah, -- it's fine, you are a liberal and you don't like trump. that's fine. but to write something about a woman's decision to travel to
davo's are not travel, you make this wild leap of logic without any factual underpinning that i know of, and you carry yourself, it's a fact. what's the fact? with the evidence? >> is my opinion that he's gross and i can imagine being married to him. >> laura: i don't think anyone cares whether you want to marry him or not. he didn't ask you to marry him. >> you clearly care about my opinion of him because i'm on your show right now. >> laura: i'm trying to understand how a woman like you who carries herself off as a feminist tries to get in the mind of another woman. debbie that's her decision. it's her decision to believe what she wants to believe and live the life that she wants to live. maybe she thinks it's the best thing for the country. maybe she is wildly them up with her husband, but like all of us, are disappointed like people at various times. maybe you have the whole thing wrong. but as a woman and as a feminist, why are you questioning other women's choices? are you pro-choice?
>> good one. being a feminist does not mean that you are not critical of women. you know that that's not what it means. you know it means equality for all genders. it's exactly what feminist means. it does not mean that i have to be nice to every woman that i meet. she is complicit in an administration that has been abhorrent as of now. racism has gone gump, anti-semitism has gone up. she is complicit in a pretty gross administration. the article was about my opinion. i think is disgusting. i can imagine being married to him at all the pictures we see her swatting his hand away are not evidence to the contrary. it kind of looks like she's disgusted by him. that's what my story was about. >> laura: that's fascinating. >> if they are happy, good, i hope she is happy. >> laura: i'm sure you do. sherry hope she's happy. did you comment about michelle obama spending an extra
three weeks in hawaii after that unfortunate deal with the selfie at the nelson mandela funeral? could you write about that or think about that? i guess two and a half weeks, something like that after that little episode. you don't member that? >> i don't remember -- $130,000 in hush money to a former star. >> laura: i guess that might pass as logic for your generation. you want to remember what you want to remember. >> michelle would have avoided in for a couple of days, you never know. >> laura: i have one question, are you going to give back the tax cut that you get because of this horrible president? are you going to give it back to the treasury to form some liberal program? >> i don't think it's too much for america to ask a decent man for president and someone who
gives a tax cut. i'm not greedy for wanting both. >> laura: you have a lovely evening. and hillary clinton's embarrassing cameo at the grammys and their award-winning hypocrisy when we return. educated back in bangladesh. my mom has her masters and my dad worked in the pharmaceutical industry. here they are serving food or they're delivering. and whether its hard for them internally, they never express it. they are always about doing what's best for my brother and i to lead a better life. giving back to them with whatever i earn at the end of my college experience is one of my top priorities. ♪ ♪
>> laura: you just knew that last night's grammys would have more anti-trump politics and #metoo moments. the public responded by tuning out in record numbers. somehow it did not strike organizers as hypocritical to feature a cameo by hillary clinton, arguably the worst enabler of a sexual abuse or that we've ever seen in public life. of course, she -- the narrator of the recent anti-trump book. >> he had a long time fear of being poisoned. one reason why he likes to eat at mcdonald's. nobody knew what was coming and the food was safely premade. >> that's the one. with the grammys in the bag? >> in the bag. >> laura: she looked great there. this is a woman, by the way, that the grammys lionized. just like week we learned that
hillary protected a campaign aide, or face consulting, and 2008 who was accused of sexually harassing a female staffer. some on her senior staff wanted him fired. >> there was sexual harassment involved, the young woman was very credible. my recommendation to the senator was to fire him. i was overruled. >> she overruled to personally? >> i was overruled, yes. >> laura: let's examine this breathtaking double standard with monica crowley in new york, senior fellow at the london center for policy research. and michelle from the center for american progress. michelle, take it away. it's the #metoo moment at the grammys and hillary clinton wouldn't fire a sexual harassment. >> i think without question hillary has been an advocate for women and girls her entire career. i actually thought that the grammys in the moment was a
moment of levity, that it was funny. i thought she looked great, and i think she had a great time. i think if we sometimes take it out of always the crazy political, that's actually really good for us as a community, as a nation. >> laura: does it bother you that she wouldn't fire the guy? not a conservative right wing person. >> not at all. what i am concerned about is what we do right now to move forward to protect all women and girls. >> laura: don't we have better examples than hillary? why is hillary so when you want to have anyone near? that's my point. monica, let's get you in on thi this. they showcase are some heroine of the rights movement. go ahead, take it away. >> i found it amazing but not at all surprising that they would highly hillary clinton at the height of this cultural moment of awareness on sexual abuse, sexual misconduct.
this is a woman who defended and protected a sexual predator for decades, a man also known as her husband. and of course we find out that she protected a campaign aide in '08 after she was warned, and she refused to dismiss him and not only that, his bad behavior continued after that and she continued make excuses for him. in this moment when you have all of these musicians on stage and they are all making political statements whether it's bono on immigration or the female artists on the #metoo movement, the ideas that they would take her and hold her up as some sort of symbol, that is self righteousness and hypocrisy. these are the least self-aware people on the planet. >> let's just step back. are we really saying that we are going to continue in 2018 to blame women for the sins of their husbands? that seems, in some ways, way antiquated and outdated. if you look at what hillary clinton has done, not who she is married to, but what she's done as senator or at the
state department. she spent years and years of her time working on behalf of women and girls in this country and around the world. >> can i just lump in your? when she raises the idea of what she's done for women and girls. what did she do to monica lewinsky, paula jones, kathleen willie? mrs. clinton was right at the center of trying to smear and discredit these women. a narcissistic looney tunes. that's what mrs. clinton did for specific women. >> we can talk about maxine, who has done tons of work with hillary clinton on ship. we can talk about the mothers of the movement on gun violence prevention. we can go back and forth with names. >> laura: she can do a lot of good liberal things that you like and at the same time not be the best person to come out for the #metoo movement. if i were a liberal, i would be like okay, hillary, thanks for your service, but we are moving on. turn the page from the clintons.
if not helping democrats. it seems like most democrats i want to know want to be done with the clintons. >> i do think that the #metoo movement is bigger than any one person. i do agree with you on that and i think it's a powerful moment for everybody in the country. >> laura: thank you so much, and we will be right back. stay right here. do you like big, juicy steak? do you like freshly steamed lobster? do you like the word and? then you'll love outback's steak and lobster. back by popular demand, only $15.99. so hurry in now. outback steakhouse. aussie rules. so hurry in now. it takes a lot of work to run this business. but i really love it. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i don't eat the way i should. so, i drink boost to get the nutrition i'm missing. boost high protein nutritional drink
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ranked highly among the happiest people in the well we thought we'd get a lesson in how to live a more hooghly life. surveys indicate that danes are among the happiest people on earth in fact the un's world happiness report regularly puts denmark at the top of the list. what is it about the danes that makes them such happy people. might be king has written a book about all this and he believes he knows the answer. he has to do with togetherness it has to do with the art of creating a good atmosphere it's about equality it's about saving simple pleasures i think we also see something inherently danish i think we see it as part of our national identity the same way the americans see freedom we think of something as part of
our d.n.a. . the word who get means being comfortable and contented often while enjoying the simpler pleasures of life. here are a few examples. it's having of kabul for show or won't he and some these kids at some and the talk who go a little bit deeper than the killing of a couch and talk. to you can't pull yourself heard is also maybe watching a film or reading a book and brutal isn't. mike beekeeping is the c.e.o. of the happiness research institute in copenhagen he says that the danes unique attitude towards life plays a major role in their sense of wellbeing. we've been curious about why denmark does well in the happiness rankings and we've looked at the political system. and that's
big part of the explanation you know high level of trust your social security and those with health care but that also explains why the other nordic countries do well so we wanted to understand why does denmark do better than than sweden finland iceland and and and norway. spending quality time with family and friends or enjoying homemade cinnamon buns that's. the danes really love christmas time traditional apple tarts are on sale at christmas markets throughout copenhagen. so is brooke or danish mulled wine. particularly amusement park is decked out with a sea of lights mike the king says winter is the peak season for a good. while is practiced throughout the year i think for the winter period it becomes almost a survival strategy it's a way of getting the best out of a time of year which is doc and cold and wet and we're forced into forced. the best
place to experience here is in danish homes the danes have more living space per person than any other european country and they make their surroundings as comfortable as possible. light is important too. there's a reason why we use twice as much candle wax as number two in europe which is australia because we enjoy lighting that is at the low end of the temperature scale so we enjoy warm mortify soft diffused lights to create a nice the atmosphere in a room. but danes also like to have nice things around the house northern europe is known for its design concepts like lamps by pulling an accent and chairs by on a yacob send and corpulent but do these things actually make people happy the notion or the concept of hickeys something that for danes is just a word or describes a a situ. and or
a state of mind more than a design i don't think you can say that it's a sign it's assigned or is. doing something to create but i think it's something that's more ingrained or maybe internalized in our culture a simple walk outside can also be good it doesn't cost anything and makes you feel good he shouldn't be about consumerism you could also use. as the get out of jail card if something is too expensive or if you walk into a restaurant it's too expensive you could say should we find a place that's more in your first or yeah let's find a place that's more so you should be inexpensive because it's about equality and it's about simple precious. danes call that special cozy christmas feeling. and the focus is not on expensive presents it's on being together with family and friends that's the true spirit of christmas and not just in denmark.
during what a lot of is sorts of bring you as well as some the course that might mean a stroll in the park but father says it means a huge adrenaline rush on a man who can't get enough of those bars is a frenchman known as roll of and he designed a unique role a suit that is fitted with thirty two rollers all over the body he can basically roll in any position he likes and since he's mastered the art of rolling he created a suit for goal lighting or skating on the ice. roller man. is trying on some blades. he shoots down the icy track at seventy kilometers per hour like a human bobsled his head just ten centimeters from the ice. he calls
this brand new version of buddy roll in the extreme sport invented buggy ice. the perfect feeling is feeling. when you make mistakes you hear that that the noise is changing when and when everybody's is on the right position it just like. when something's wrong as. i sunfire in see good and i feel some fifty kilometers east of the capital i'm a guy. adrenaline junkies come here to race on skates. or hurtle down the loo jack breakneck speeds. and he is the craziest of them all brawn told from france is full body suit is studded with fourteen ice skate blades a prototype that's only been tried once before. the first session i got which i loved is intercounty you watch and then you see the people wrong direction the
trees. going over you and the sky is wrong direction so so it's the world is changing around you because of the gravity direction. this is. in the original version of his suit as the roller man. he reached speeds up to one hundred twenty kilometers an hour. the thirty two rollers lead him to zip across smooth surfaces in every conceivable position. it may look pretty dangerous but it's meticulously planned out. sometimes i go even by foot to know each corner it's truck it's it's cross world. so i know everything in my head i can visualize in three d. how districts like so it's a question of preparation you don't go just like this. drawing you brando invented
is thirty two wheel roller sued over twenty years ago while studying industrial design. now he's selling his invention so much of it has to be done by hand but the suit costs around six thousand seven hundred euro's. he also warns money with t.v. appearances and advertising even if he makes a living from his invention rondo's says it's not primarily about money. when you wear the suit the first time. your. connection to the world is changing you are not. you're not a normal human everything you touch in touch with the reels it looks more robotic deeply your identity the image you sent to the other people is different. over the years brando is refined to suit more and more modifying it for
a variety of services this is the ski version and he's got his sights set on new goals as well. i think we can go like this is easily fifty six fifty can return more we've good ironies to work on ironies. i would like to work with some multiples in sight like electric motor was my dream is to be faster than the called st even the flat i want that i can produce. the cheaper that's for christmas choose to buy it. there's no doubt that the suit is a real eye catcher. and it may well be the most impressive and dangerous way to speak down. to impressive it certainly is and you won't catch me trying it out in
a hurry let's turn now to focus on two german artists who have a more tranquil passion and that is lighting up forests with their projections and imagery they use an innovative combination of techniques bringing life to the darkest of nights the images they produce of both magical and mesmerizing the also prefer to not digitally manipulate anything in post-production so the key for them is in the preparation and that can take hours in the cold winter nights. glowing shapes in untouched nature surrealistic images from the short film lucid by the german artist's collective. and none of this is done with computer
animation even the images that seem inexplicable are real objects and were actually installed in the surroundings. and fruit trees fun sure put a lot of physical work and creativity into their art. among other things they use luminescent wires and objects to create their illusions. we can use anything that glows it all depends on how you stage it to take things in with the techniques and materials i use range from household items for example the sphere shape as a layer of ikea to projections for example we have one shot with a triangle we cut it out of cardboard and then just object to the colored like. the thumb points you have would have when the. in twenty fourteen the artist
duo shot the short film bioluminescent forest here to all the light effects are projected directly into the setting rather than manipulating the images on a computer. direct my wad and on sure employed and even labrat technology for this called projection mapping parts of the forest are illuminated effects on irregular surfaces and textures are taken into account this requires not only a precise plan but also patient. especially when the illuminated objects are not only three dimensional but also animate. usually we only project light onto inanimate objects but we also wanted to use animals ones that don't move much or that hold still for a while but with a frog we have to film for five hours because it kept jumping away because. for
other projects the light artists bring a bit of nature into the city. for example their new project in paris in twenty fifty. astonished the audience with the projection of a gigantic spider. first they had to build a cardboard model of the building and film the spider inside it then they projected the video onto the inside walls of the building for the illusion to be perfect the dimensions and perspectives had to correspond precisely. when it is with the manoir for us it's important to keep trying out new techniques for example in our next project we might work with fire or with water or whatever. with a wide range of things we don't want to limit our so i'm saying that i think that's what enables us to always have new themes and to be able to convey a feeling. that i hunt will continue to create illusions in the future without image editing using physical
exertion and ingenious ideas. you might have an artist that we have a winter theme running through the show today on the use of force is no exception we met a couple who says for twenty years to find the perfect spots to build their dream home they found it on a peninsula in no way above the arctic circle a shell like home is now their own little private sanctuary where they can go to high but night whenever they so desire. the lignin peninsula lies north of the arctic circle this holiday home is perfectly suited to the cold climate in northern norway where snow covers the ground for roughly half the year it was built by hot bod kramer and tova felt hello welcome to my cabin come inside.
the heart of the building is the living area with its floor to ceiling windows which afford a stunning view of the water this two hundred square metre bungalow is hot board kramer's and over felts weekend retreat the retiree's spend as much time here as possible i am and. most assignments and looking at the see. we are relaxing more we can. all read that book we can. be a more outside. during the winter months the sun doesn't rise for too long months to compensate for the lack of daylight that has decorated the house and a vibrant colors and fitted it with cozy carpets and blankets a geothermal heat pump and a wood fire ensure cozy temperatures. i can stand. near the wall from the
fireplace. it's very giving me i love that and it's. the house also boasts a sauna that can be used all year round. i go in this house and i every saturday where we are here we take this out with the family to it our daughter. did and they also. i may have i yeah we warm us here. have a very coffee the bedrooms face the heath behind the cabin till the felt and her husband searched for twenty years until they found this spot to build their cabin construction began in two thousand and seven their idea was to build a cabin that harmonizes with its environment yet also provides a warm haven amid these harsh climbs. i like the
structure their feeling the warmth feeling it gives they want to. be like i said. you see it oh i own all there. on the outside. the cabins wooden structure was neatly fitted into the few words rock formation its walls are lined with the who wind currents. architects norris jenison designed the cabin and chose materials like wood which will withstand the harsh arctic climate for many years. it's untreated. grayish look but still it's a warm work on the outside cedar which of course in this climate also is. very well suited. and turns your silver grey in time.
twelve a fountain hubbard kramer spent plenty of time outside if the weather permits it sometimes they can observe reindeer or winds at sea and in the winter they sometimes see the northern lights this is why they love being so far north. it's the better and not the temperate or. they are their surroundings we have here that i haven't seen. i've read. photo of a fountain hawk park kramer spending time in their cozy cabin north of the arctic circle his goodness no matter what the season. now have you heard of. before it's one of australia's most popular deserts especially in the winter it's basically like a pancake being chopped up and then it's served with sugar and cherry sauce on the
side decadent really is but a perfect treat after violence like. the pit called lazio is austria's high a ski resort here at the ski season lasts until may three restaurants feed hungry winter sports enthusiasts one atop the glazier that's almost three thousand five hundred metres above sea level and the others at an elevation of almost three thousand meters. after a day on the slopes ski is can enjoy delicious helping of. the sweet days just as much a part of austrian identity as the alps. a wonderful just like my grandma used to make it. nearby you'll find austria's highest patisserie stephany's than tele is hard at work here paying pastries and the smart . you put it everything is produced up here in the bakery
we make all the desserts for the two restaurants fish bits and customers and we also supply cafe three for forty with fresh cake instituted. every morning that is sent up by cable car to austria's highest coffeehouse cafe three for forty it lies six hundred meters about the bakery aside from the fantastic there's another treat the visit has the so-called place yes no cake. course on the coconut fine uppal very fluffy very light when you if you get it fresh it's quite magical and certainly recommended would put it in feet. but operating a sky high bakery has its pitfalls. about three thousand four hundred forty metres the boiling point is different so if we know that the weather will change will produce the biscuit bases a day early because otherwise they might not be so fluffy and could fall apart
inside us and if so shouldn't. milk. eggs. sugar that's all. kinds of smarm doesn't require any delicate preparation just mix the milk in flour then separate the eggs and beat the egg white with sugar until stick. it's coming out now that it's nice and foamy will do the famous test. it should be like this. add the rest of the act to the mixture. then to give it its airy consistency gently fold in the egg whites nearly all run. on the pits todd glacier we don't use mineral water and. we prefer egg whites. then the kaiser stays moist
longer the type to feed not. knowing i. used the shavings i don't. know what you come on you know now we can add some raisins on the glacier we put in raisins but you can leave them out if you wish. we sell up to four tons of man in the winter season that's one hundred fifty to two hundred portions a day. should be baked for five minutes on each side and then it's ready. stephany's i'm too low also supplies the restaurants with viennese apple strudel and clips. because the smog is said to get its name from a pancake that went wrong. the austrian emperor of france use if loved. but
when a pancake fell apart during cooking it was scrambled up and served. them probably loved it and empress scrambled all the smart phones. now it's just missing the icing sugar on top and up here we serve our kaiser man with apple sauce on going on very. this in just a favorite if you're old it's one of austria's most popular there's a. sweet treat to end the show on things are changing in everyone i hope this season hasn't made you feel too cold wherever you're watching from i'll see you again say you know your max and until then on social media five an hour.
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some of these buses have put more than ninety years behind them now they cruising the back roads of lowest sex any. kids from all over europe have brought some of the most elegant and valuable city buses still on the road to disparage special beam teach vehicles mate. i thought maybe it's just fun to fool around with these old things and to drive them keep them going after all they are pieces of cultural history the. color just can't describe it i lived and died for old cars. first of all this everything rattles all over and second you need some muscles to move them around who were very good. about a whole can of riots in the past by german come make up britain a ball from nine hundred twenty eight the oldest european. asked to take part in the meet in the late one nine hundred twenty s. and thirty's the boss carried passengers on its route from bad warton failed as
railway station to the center of town it can be quite a challenge to navigate today's traffic with yesterday's technology. delay don't get there for years are going to steer and shifting gears is complicated you have to double clutch and it doesn't have any synchromesh gears that's good and so shifting isn't easy you have to know where to during your little shake rattle and roll up or does. this one has come the longest way from bristol in england it still has something of the feel of the nineteen eighties about it stuart shelton has been on the road in europe with it for three days so far in both on. the road i have to concentrate on the driving when you're driving you always walk up the road . or in the mirror. no matter how pretty the girl is all as you do see the look out there. one by one the antique
glasses of arrived at the museum grounds in i'm back a total of seventy entries this come from all over germany as well as england switzerland belgium and austria the organizer of the mages the new p.s. vita automotive museum its collection has more than a hundred historical vehicles all carefully restored by hand including this nine hundred twenty seven buick city pass. now it's time for a very special event on the program a convoy through the countryside to the one time imperial benedictine abbey of cool be a unesco world heritage site. was. told the buses make the eighty some kilometer round trip without mishap even ex-pirate she friedel all commands old buick. the vision i'll buy the other clutch jerks a little but that's just an inconvenience on the inside story but when you get hold
of a miracle ideas it doesn't run you have to make a roadworthy and that's really quite an experience. is. the vintage bos fans take the opportunity to trade stories and information where can they get this or that spam pos who knows a specialist all who can get a rare historical detail back in order. to find it or just as people are dying out there are many left who can restore old bridge to your goals like. a preserve boss needs a lot of love a lot of time and a lot of money to keep it going if we can't have a lively membership and it will die out. expanding the numbers of vintage bass plans shouldn't be quite as hot the owner operators here are old men but among the spectators at events like these cup plenty of women interviewed. as
indoor in miami are more and more women are driving that big break trucks and it's quite possible that one of them might eventually take up this hobby if you follow women are becoming emancipated so you might see them in buses like they send me their minds i will say that's really interesting to drive a bus like the it's true the drivers are mostly men but i got my driver's license on an older model an old mercedes three zero three so it's nice to see antique vehicles like these which i must know. together the fans here are doing what they can to make sure these historical buses will be preserved the future generations. time now for something to eat and as we have said before you don't have to go very far in berlin to experian. international cuisine there are some one hundred eighty nine nations represented in berlin and some of these people bring
a slice of their native countries with them in the form of calling their retreats while today we're going to try out a special pyar salad from laos so blown up a team. has been my first memories of berlin where the months that i spent in an asylum seekers home those are my earliest memories i can remember the long haul the limit only in florence there were many cribs for children and many other people from asia. was born in one nine hundred seventy seven in laos this photograph of her extended family was taken before her birth her father was critical of the government and in one nine hundred seventy nine her family fled to thailand nguyen was the youngest of four siblings a year later she arrived in berlin. meanwhile she has her own family sharing meals together with her husband and children is very important to
her. and as we speak to asia plays a very big role hans is the center of everything at big family celebrations too there's always a lot of food good food it's always the highlight the high to know even nowadays when there is a family celebration everyone looks forward to the food and of course to spending time with your family when you get together. how nguyen originally trained as a foreign language clerk. in two thousand and eleven she and her two brothers opened a restaurant in the north her and district of berlin. features dishes from south eastern asia. in an immense partisan dung my father's name is don yeah officially our last name
is nguyen because the person who applied for our permission to come here put down the name nguyen which is a very common vietnamese name musician but our real name is don what about that's why you decided to use that name for a restaurant when dissing him is that. and shame is unknown to indochina which allow us as a part of you know place to fit in with my grandfather and great grandfather worked for the french and sometimes as cooks that's why we thought it was a good fit for that. one time i'm guessing is in this place going to go to. a pious salad is a traditional laotian dish which is served in many different ways. it's usually eaten with fermented shrimp. in an unusual twist being greedy and are crushed with a mortar and pestle. copiah salad is among launch of flavors combining the sweetness of a pyre and sugar
a salty fish sauce the sour notes of lemon and the spicy heat of chillies. cuisine is definitely spicy hot as he wished we had many dishes that have some heat to them but they aren't just spicy they all have their own distinct flavor combinations because we also use a lot of herbes and spices this is an illusion cooking that we tend to use many more ingredients than in european cuisine and it tends to be more expensive. because the herb's aren't as widely available so they do cost more. so is where
north korean meets berlin's crowds packed district it's an area that's changed a lot in recent years. here used to be affordable which drew many young people to the district. that was followed by the rise of a vibrant restaurant scene once a rather rundown area it's now become trendy. very colorful very edgy and also multicultural. if used to be a bit more of a ghetto i guess you could say this is the area i live in which isn't that far from my restaurant used to be a place where most people didn't want to live today it's almost impossible to find a place here. when the restaurant is busy and helps out in the kitchen. ever since her brother's left the business her cousin and mother have done the cooking. many played some time to the sense that. felix very yummy all right
from food to travel now and we're off to the portuguese island of madeira located on the atlantic ocean almond there is often referred to as the green or flower island because of its vegetation and at this time of year that certainly rings true because a major flower festival is in full swing with a big parade as the highlight. there's a party atmosphere in front shot of the capital of madeira the portuguese island is celebrating something it has plenty of flowers the highlight of the celebration is a magnificent parade always held three weeks after easter. roberto goodridge as she is taking part with his dance group food as somebody born in portugal he lived in switzerland for many years now he's returned home. at pottery found to be on the clock right it's great to see how people are so happy to see all the flowers
the dancing our costumes it's wonderful to take part here. at the album it's. the flower festival was the main topic of conversation and for four weeks before the parade floral carpets have been spread out on the main promenade and flowers handed out to visitors. who battle and his team start preparing for the parade in early april it's taking quite a bit of effort. this is some quarter it's difficult to coordinate all the people the whole team that's here we work under time pressure of course to get everything done everything has to be ready tomorrow it's not just the front where you also have to coordinate one hundred thirty people i don't want to start the engine from quarter. the countdown is on with one day to go floats and marchers have to be transformed into
bouquets of flowers within a single day to make sure the blossom stay fresh the hats made with orchids and during games and protests help people get into the party mood before the parade kicks off. designer dina is responsible for the costumes and floral accessories she emphasizes color and authenticity is flowers from here. and we is this week oh we're this is made here in mother a so it's far from our handmade. art craft it's really fun because it's a flow a festival and we live in an island full of color full of nature and you have to project to work with it and that gets really interesting because it's something that you love so that whole is the little touch. madeira is called the island of flowers they flourish in the sub tropical climate even on rocky or volcanic ground so it's the ideal place to celebrate an annual festival of flowers.
the director of tourism couldn't agree more. a small flowers festival started with an exhibition that's over sixty years old about sixty three and then about thirty years ago we started with the parade as it is with groups involved which has been growing year by year and this is one of the biggest so in numbers one thousand five hundred people starting with little ones from four year olds. it's sunday afternoon and in fifteen minutes the parade will begin. his club were up until two in the morning putting together and decorating their float now it's ready to move out and the club members pose for tourists. can feel the adrenaline rising it can set off getting really excited you know it's completely normal when you walk
with morning welcome welcome in my house. it's doing. the entrance leads right into the open concept living area. covering one hundred twenty square metres it functions as a sitting room kitchen dining room and. the house is a mix of travel stories and when i travel. a lot of feelings of emotion of his and they wanted to put this whole thing. inside in one hundred one place. to business men had the house built to his
specifications four years ago. he's furnished the living room with design classics like this charles ames lounge chair from one nine hundred fifty six and modern. from here there's a clear view of the port city of set and the mediterranean. in this region we have almost all the year so the house has to be on the same wave so i wanted to have in this house the spanish spirit. and because it is a fan of the spanish island he decorated the bedrooms on the upper floor giving them a typical island style one bright colors give the place a real holiday feel. the room is one of the place you spend
a lot of time and the color. make make you happy. the interior design is the. mix of styles. retro accessories design classics and modern furniture. while purists might not approve this president clearly feels very much at home here. also has a passion for recycled materials in the bathroom old railway to serve as a countertop. and the old wooden planks constituting the dining room table were once part of an indonesian fishing vessel. the house also has a wine cellar with a small bar. the color scheme of the retro look wallpaper harmonizes with a british colonial style leather armchair
a table made from recycled wooden pallets provides the finishing touch it's a home full of memories and atmosphere. and his house in a personal home inspired by very personal experiences. and his cat will get lots of fun. and with that we wrap up another week of your own max and don't forget to check us out on social media or follow the show on our website as always for me and the rest of us here max thanks for tuning in.
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