creepy. i will go with it. a couple of issues, a couple of issues. i think the reason they didn t claim as a stay is because they landed there and go there s no oxygen, no life, gravity sucks, let s go home. greg: you just described to vermont. in vermont you can still breathe. who can fight when the boats go up? this makes no sense to me. you can build a base in mars all you want, there still no oxygen over there, still no water, i m going to stay focused down here, have a great time. when you catch that sunrise in mars, what s it like when your body implodes from the inside out. it s outer space. it s a bad place to go. when we go and worry about antarctica? that s pretty good property that s wide open right now. why don t we worry about chicago, seattle, portland, oregon, all the states on fire