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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210530 08:03:00

the way, brad couldn t sneak that secret of his into her stocking. which is what started the argument of slamming doors and said it in silence. before amanda woke up to the sound of her dad on 9-1-1. and he s very hysterical. you know? he s crying, can t really say anything other than, get here quick. get your quick. i heard that two or three times. such a complicated tale. with its secrets, lies, shifting loyalties. and here of all places. this throwback to an idealized past. we hunted mushrooms. we picked up walnuts. they were inseparable children. brad and his older sister marcia. he was my playmate. we depended on each other. marcia became a nurse, brad ran the farm. and the center of their families in 1863. that christmas 2006, brad and

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210530 08:46:00

been performed on brad s robe, but where were the results? she has the highway patrols for them. and they didn t send them to me. so she wrote to them again. i said all right they are there, i have photographs, i know they are there. send me the results and then they sent them. and, the tests were conclusive. there was no gunshot residue on brad s black bathrobe. just as there wasn t any on his hands tonight lisa died. meaning brad almost certainly did not fire the gun that killed lisa. but why didn t lead investigator dan nash revealed that? well, he said he never received those results. plausible? not in a heartbeat. no, i was a prosecutor before this, my spouse is a police officer. dwight is a police officer, we know the care that goes into building a case. and that is not a step that you skip. dan nash had specifically asked for that test to be done. so, by now dwight was

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210530 08:59:00

answer to his long ago question, why did she and her own life? once he might ve confronted the other men, now, nothing to be done. i don t even know where he s at. the business shut down, closed down. in july 2018, the state attorney generals office announced it would not retrial brad. as for the ones close family, when we last spoke with him, they remained badly split. lisa sister, sean, and daughter, lacey, still believe brad was guilty. and for brad, it feels like starting over. and he clings to his kids and his sister and his mom and those who believed in him. to his ancestral farm. and his other longtime love, the old shovel. i knew brad was innocent, the only thing i ve ever wanted was for finally everyone to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210530 08:06:00

something. mostly later in the evening, at night. after they had been drinking. they would be yelling. and maybe slamming doors. things like that. but just arguing about anything, nothing. we never really thought too much about it. anyway, now it was that calamitous christmas eve, 2006. as always, there had been a happy dinner celebration with brad s side of the family. christmas eve, we would go to my grandma s. they re in town. and then, back home, games and stockings stuffing. and of course a real up real early and open all the presents. lisa had no idea that brad had brought her a 3500 dollar diamond ring. and got the kids to help him pick it out. back he went in for his chance to hide it in her stocking. lisa kept filling on the computer. and the kids were playing a board game. i think it was monopoly. just played downstairs for a

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210530 08:21:00

it s a sweet piece of america, buffalo, missouri. population 3000 or so. where people tend to know each other s business. and where brad could have a best friend he met when they were both in diapers. so of course, dale potter rushed over to see brad that merry christmas morning. he just kept saying, why, dave. why did she do this? he was a mess. all of those guns you see in the background there. dale owns buffaloes only gun and pawnshop. so, when the sun s death was declared to be suicide and the sheriff return ballads gone, the one that killed her. brad called dale. he said i don t really want the gun back. i can t imagine why he. what he said, do you want? it i said yes, i cleaned it up. just put it in the safe and forgot about. it and the family tried to

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