this weekend that injured nine people. so far two have been released from the hospital. doctors say the prognosis for the remaining victims remains unclear. nfl teams are on the clock. the draft beginning tonight right across the street from at 30 rock. the event is going to last three days. experts expect a few surprises as any pro-draft predictions could be misdirection. all right. that's going to wrap up a thursday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ i really have not talked to jeb about the presidency. it's hard for people to believe. >> i don't know. i could see you forgetting you were the president. i could see that. you were the president. i'm pretty sure i've always been a painter. pretty sure. pretty sure i've always been a painter of cat and feet. >> good morning, everyone.
welcome to "morning joe." it is thursday, may 8th. with us on set we have the host of "mad money," jim cramer. it's great to see you. >> same. >> it's been awhile. >> too long. >> you still mad? >> oh, more than ever. >> good. >> we love that. >> on the other side of the emotional spectrum, he's not mad -- >> never. >> he's very passionate the host of ""ronan farrell daily," rona farrell. >> mommy gave him the support system. you were a doter. i've seen you two. >> is there a thing here? >> there's a thing. it's weird, but it's a thing. >> mother/son. wonderful boy. >> mother/son? >> so willie, i decided to change my plan. you know, we've been taking all the money we make here, right? and the coupons that phil gives us --
>> you know i'm not done introducing people. >> i know you're not. but i get little cesar coupons. by the way phil has given me a frequent flier thing. a card. any eastern airline flight on the east coast, i can use it. swipe it, go. >> he didn't have to do that. >> he didn't. but i'm investing now in tech stocks. twitter. >> wow. >> he just lurched. >> and i got this mutual fund -- this whole mutual fund. all new internet stocks. >> no, no. say it ain't so. >> with a bow on top. is that bad? >> he put every cent he has in there. >> it is may of 2000. march was the peak and april was hideous. it feels like those not making money. >> what do you remember? >> twitter. as i sink with twitter. twitter is a company that we don't realize doesn't make any money. it's just a huge amount of fun. we all talk to each other on it
like we do when we see each other except i'm not being paid to talk you. and you guys aren't paying us to watch. it's just guys talking. >> that's not the idea. >> facebook makes a ton of money. facebook's better. >> i don't need your details. >> sorry. >> what is twitter's plan to make money? presumably it started out as something fun but they had an idea how to turn profit. >> sponsored links. maybe you go there. click on something you don't want to click on, make a mistake, they get paid. >> i do that a lot. we have msnbc political analyst gene robinson. >> hi, gene. >> good morning. how you doing? i'm not mad either. >> you're never mad. gene's joyful. >> sometimes i'm mad, but today i'm not. >> we'll see if we can get you there today. >> joe manages on occasion. >> and jeremy peters.
good to have you on board. >> thank you. >> okay. republicans say their investigation into benghazi has nothing to do with politics. but they're facing tough criticism. republican congressman trey gowdy who is leading a select committee investigating the attack says it would be wrong to raise money off of benghazi. here's what he said on "morning joe" yesterday. >> i have never sought to raise a single penny on the backs of four murdered americans. there are two -- still and even in a culture of hyperpartisanship, certain things that ought to be above politics like the murder of our four fellow americans. >> well, he personally has not, i guess. can't speak for the rest of his party. 30 minutes earlier the republican congressional committee sent out this fund raising e-mail. from a website called benghazi watch dogs.com. the e-mail lets recipients link
to a page that asks for donations up to $500 and refers to them as benghazi watch dogs. >> willie, we yesterday had trey here. he was passionate. we agreed with him. i was warning democrats or republicans don't need to politicize benghazi. four americans dead. he comes out and says that and 30 minutes earlier his own party undercuts him and the credibility of his investigation by asking for $25 donations off of benghazi. give me a break. >> that's the problem right there. i thought yesterday trey gowdy was good on this show saying i'll do everything i can to get to the truth and not make this a political exercise. but all it takes a one e-mail like that to show the other side it is a political exercise. if they want to raise money off this issue. he said i'm not going to raise
one nickel over dead americans. then they did it yesterday. >> i don't know why political parties do this. political parties do it. it's the republican parties now that's been caught doing it. i mean, they have undermined the credibility of this committee. they need to promise they're not going to do it again over four dead americans with $25 donations. give me a break. >> it's disgusting. it really is hideous. if republicans expect this investigation to be taken seriously at all and not seen as the most naked of political exercises to animate the republican base in advance of the election, you know, look. there are a lot of democrats out there today saying as they were yesterday that this is all political. that this has nothing to do with a search for the truth. that it has to do with a search
for votes and contributions. and the party seems to be, you know, eager to give evidence that that position is right. so they better clean it up fast if they want to be taken seriously. >> john, why don't we reach out to trey gowdy's office and see if there's anything they want to say during the course of this show in response. >> i'm sure they will. he was very straightforward about where he stands. if i was him, i would be so pissed off. they really -- you know what? they really undercut his credibility. >> and with the number of hearings -- >> i'm sure they're going to hear from him. >> he has to establish this is different if he wants to sell this to the public. they've turned out 25,000 documents. there's been tens and tens of committee hearings and meetings. they've got to prove there's substance there. >> that undermines everything they're doing. >> don't you think, though, that
in a sense if you're looking at this strictly politically the republicans would be foolish not to capitalize on this. with i've been to these town meetings across the country and benghazi comes up repeatedly. you cannot overstate how much this riles up the republican base. ultimately that's what's happening here. >> yeah. >> trust me. this is -- this is an important issue for a lot of americans, but when the washington establishment seeks to exploit it for political purposes or democrats like to pretend that nothing went wrong there, then americans look at washington d.c. you know what? on either side. and if you're trying to fund raise 25 bucks off 4 dead americans, that's why americans hate the washington establishment. >> absolutely. >> on both sides. >> meanwhile, former secretary of state hillary clinton is weighing in on the new panel. she says it's time for republicans to move on. >> there are a lot of reasons
why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. that's their choice, and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> well, of course that's what she'd say. the white house in my opinion still stone walling. they hold back on important document where the white house ask coaching susan rice on what to say on the sunday morning talk shows. that began the center of this controversy. of course hillary clinton would like them to move on. they're not moving on and they shouldn't until the white house cooperates. >> it is in her best interest to move on as well. >> of course she wants it to move on. she's at the center of all of this. she was at the center of the 3:00 a.m. call. >> yep. perhaps there is no more vocal critic of mega donors koch brothers than harry reid.
in a one-on-one interview with chuck todd, reid clarified why he's going after the businessmen and not other big republican donors. >> it is the two richest people in the world. and they are in it to make money. that's their whole goal here. is they have zeros to their billions. and i don't think that's the case -- >> you don't think that's the case with adelson? >> i know sheldon adelson. he's not in this for money. he's got -- he's not in this to make money. he's in it because he has certain certain ideological views. now, sheldon adelson views are in keeping with the democrats. so adelson, don't pick on him. he's not in it to make money. >> he's not. by the way, we were just sitting here thinking -- i know. it's so laughable, gene. i read my forbes richest people
in the world, they're not the two richest people in the world, first of all. >> they are quite rich. >> i'd like their money, don't get me wrong. but don't say they're the two richest people in the world. >> i don't think that's the problem. >> saying sheldon not in it for the money. but the headline in today's "washington post," what does it say? >> it suggests that sheldon adelson is benefitting from his donations. he has donated to candidates around the country. many are siding with him to try and outlaw online gambling. adelson is, quote, playing three levels of chess. even bringing on democratic strategists including former senator blanche lincoln of arkansas to beat back competitors pushing online gambling. you can see more of that interview with chuck when he joins us at the 7:00 hour. >> gene's still laughing. it's because he loves america
and gene's happy. >> aren't we shock snd we're shocked, shocked, that billionaires would like to make more money. >> shocked. >> and we think it's fine that they're giving lots of money to politicians so they can make more money. and advance their interest. >> harry reid says he's doing it because he loves america. >> well, you know, god bless him then. but he happens to live in the state of nevada, doesn't he? >> oh, i never really put that together. oh. hold on. hold on. i'm connecting those dots right here. okay. thank you. >> i'm always looking out for false equivalences. i think we buy into that too often. but here's a direct equivalent. it's absolutely true. >> it's just direct. >> yeah. they're trying to make more money. anyhow, don't get me started. >> jeremy, harry reid is so obsessed with the koch brothers, they're going to have to take out a restraining order pretty
soon. but is this strategy working? he's banging this drum every day. is it working as we look at some of these races that come up in '14? >> i guess we'll know when the democrats release their next round of fund raising numbers. that's primarily what this is. it's a strategy to get democrats worked up about the involvement of these billionaires who could really with all of their money and all the spending they're doing in races on advertising could tip the balance. you know, i think this works, this strategy of going after the koch brothers works where they have business interests. that happens to be in the most contested states with senate races. alaska, north carolina, for example. where i think it gets a little bit harder for the average voter to connect the dots is in other places where the kochs are just more of a name. and that's all. you saw the latest "wall street
journal"/nbc news poll that still half of americans don't know who they are. that's consistent with a poll a few months prior to that. on the other happened, half americans know who they are. >> quickly, jim cramer, tell us. there's huge money in this. one of the funny things about what harry reid said, funny as in contemptuous, there is so much money involved in gambling, in casinos and this is as cut throat a business move. fine, let him do it, show him adelson can do. he's trying to kill online internet gambling across america. >> it's addictive. you don't need to go to the casino. >> willie, you know this. i have always been against online internet gambling. go ahead. >> the thing he has to worry about, he has to make sure that relations with china are good.
his big profit center is not in this country. it is over as the gambling mecca. and he has done incredibly well. the internet gambling, look. it's easy to kill because all you got taught is be able to say younger people get in that shouldn't. younger people can gam l. the statistics on addiction is major. >> online gambling is a horrible idea. >> horrible. >> and i've seen it first hand with a lot of people. again, just -- there's tons of money involved in this. when harry reid says that sheldon adelson is doing it because he loves america and has nothing to do with making money. >> the share will get hit if it takes off. and get hit if china cuts off the cap. >> here's the problem. when you have that kind of a wallet, you can change the law on goomabling.
if you go down the list. harry reid has that obsession with the koch brothers. we also see it as a bigger problem. it's on both sides. money's taking over politicians. it's not speech. and to the extent it is speech, it needs to be much more regulated. >> if all those people you named could only be in it for the same reasons sheldon's in it for. we'd be a better koun troy. see the flags behind me, i love america too. in case anybody didn't know. >> okay right here. one more big story before we go to break. first lady michelle obama is lending her voice to an international push to rescue nearly 300 school girls kidnapped by terrorists in nigeria. she tweeted this photo and the message it's time to bring back our girls. the islamist militant group behind the abduction is being blamed for more violence. officials say hundreds of people were killed when gunmen attacked a village near the border with cameroon. militants reportedly opened fire
at a crowded market on monday before setting fire to neighboring homes. survivors say the massacre lasted for hours. the village was apparently used by troops in their search for the missing girls. police were offering a $300,000 reward for information that helps find the young captives. the girls were kidnapped three weeks ago and the terror group is threatening to sell them into slavery. the incident has sparked outrage across the world. former secretary of state hillary clinton spoke about the kidnappings criticizing nigeria's government. >> the seizure of these young women by this radical extremist group boko haram is abominable, critical, it's an act of terrorism, and it really merits the fullest response possible first and foremost from the government of nigeria. the government of nigeria has been, in my view, somewhat
derelict in its responsibility towards protecting boys and girls, men and women in northern nigeria over the last years. >> pretty tough there on the nigerian government. there was an ap account written up yesterday that gave basically a blow by blow of what happened during the kidnapping. there was a call from the school. they had lead time. someone tipped them off by two hours these guys were coming. they called the nearby military barracks, no help came. these guys were able to flee into the vast park where they are now. what can the united states be doing beyond what we've done so far which is to send support? >> i think that technical support team will help a lot. it's the help they need. but it reveals a larger problem. african terrorism is on the rise. it is attacks by al shabab, al qaeda affiliates. i think this technical support team needs to be the kind of
support we have in place in general. >> the united states? >> absolutely. african is predicting this is the next front in the war on terror for a long time. we just haven't done enough. >> gene? >> i think it's kind of a mistake to see boko haram as a pure terror group. in fact, it's more of a criminal enterprise. what we're talking about here, i think, at base is human trafficking which has been going on in that region, in that part of nigeria for a long time. the borders are for porous. they kidnap the wrong set of girls with the wrong set of parents this time. and they happen to get this #bring back our girls to trend and catch fire and drew the world's attention. you know, this is a group -- yes, it has now the islam iic ideology, but they've been disowned by al qaeda. saying, jeez, these guys are
crazy. they don't want anything to do with this. this is also just criminality that the nigerian government, frankly, if not complicit has been at least willing to ignore what's been going on. and former secretary clinton is right. they should be held to account for that. >> gene, thank you. still ahead on "morning joe," congressman elijah cummings who says congress holding lois lerner in contempt is a throwback to the mccarthy era. he joins us on the 7:00 hour. plus tonight is the start of the nfl draft. it's our chance to bring in former nfl coach jon gruden. >> you know what? us doing that, i'm sorry -- >> what? >> that's a throwback to the mccarthy era. next you're going to tell me we have donny osmond. >> oh, we have donny osmond. >> seriously? >> he's a little bit country. >> so he wasn't talking about
the '68 election? >> no. >> we're going joe. >> up next, michele bachmann takes a strong stance against women's history. her reason in our morning papers. >> mike allen's here. he's got the politico playbook. but first here's bill kairns and a throwback to mccarthyism checking our forecast. bill, this rain -- this rain, sir, is un-american. sir. sir. >> it is. maybe we'll have congressional panels on that shortly. the rain going on in new york also back through areas of pennsylvania. it's all kind of associated with what happened yesterday in the central plains. five tornadoes were reported and a lot of large hail. that was the big predominant thing that happened. we saw numerous reports of golf ball sized hail from minnesota to texas. this video comes from oklahoma. some of this stuff was enough to put some dents in your cars. we're going to do it all over again during the day today. as far as the new york city area
goes, all morning long into probably the early afternoon, periods of light rain. it's a narrow band. so if you're down from philadelphia southwards, you should be just fine. look how warm it's going to get. into the 80s today from pittsburgh all the way back to the washington, d.c., much cooler in boston. the big story will be the middle of the country again. it is may. this is our severe weather season. unlike last week, this isn't going to be a huge tornado outbreak. but if we're going to focus on one area, it's that area in red that poses a moderate risk of severe weather. it's going to be widespread in this little area from just south of minneapolis, southern minnesota, all the way down through central iowa including the ames and des moines area. we'll see one or two strong tornadoes. along with those, large hail is likely. that's where all the storm chasers will be later this afternoon. if we have any of those storms, we'll bring them to you and give you the details. the rest of the country looking just fine in the southeast. we leave you with a shot of a fairly rainy new york city on
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the chicago tribune. high school seniors fail to show progress on reading and math exams. in addition, 3/4 failed to show math comprehension. it's only a slight change from 2009 when the national exam was last administered to 12th grade students. the news gets worse. >> "the washington post." the national history museum bill passed yet despite pushback from some including congresswoman michele bachmann. she said the proposed museum in d.c. may put too much emphasis on the feminist movement. >> -- in opposition to this bill because i believe ultimately this museum that will be built on the national mall on federal land will enshrine the radical feminist movement that stands against the pro-life movement, the pro-family movement, and the pro-traditional marriage movement.
>> the potential museum would be funded by private donations. and a new report from "usa today" says despite invested more than $26 million, the national guard failed to sign up any new recruits. e in 2012 the guard saw nearly 25,000 potential recruits associated with nascar-related programs. only 20 met the qualifications and not one of them joined the service. >> "the washington times" fears about the impact of the sequestration cuts were exaggerated. only one federal employee lost a job. one. >> washington, d.c. oh, sequestration. oh, locusts are going to descend from the heavens and chew the flesh off the bones of 200,000 federal employees. one person lost their job? seriously? seriously? >> one. >> liberals were jumping out the
window saying it's over. sir, it's over. sir. give me a break. >> the report also found virtually every federal agency reduced bonuses, travel time, and overtime. >> and the charlotte observer, pop star clay aiken. >> i love him. >> he should have beaten ruben. >> he so should have. how do you know that? that's true, you know? >> i know. he sang "bridge over troubled waters." >> i know. it was amazing. >> he was great. so they're fighting through this democratic congressional seat. reports say aiken is holding onto a slight lead. but crisco with perhaps the most unfortunate name in this year's political campaign still says the race is too close to call. crisco says he's not going to concede despite trailing by 369 votes. >> he should -- come on. he should sing a song.
>> you weren't a ruben guy? i thought he deserved to win. >> really? >> we can argue about this. >> clay's skills were better. >> he's a great singer. >> let's hope he edges out crisco. wait, why are you laughing? >> it's just in politics it feels like that's a tough name. >> crisco is like oily? >> yeah. >> crisco party. stuff like that. >> he just might win though. let's see. with us now in new york again the chief white house correspondent for politico mr. mike allen. good morning. >> good morning. happy draft day. >> happy draft day to you. right across the street. we'll talk about that in a minute. let's talk about keystone not whether or not it's going to get through or whether or not the president will approve it, but it's huge in washington. you've got lobbyists on this, oil companies, there's a lot of money already being poured into this operation. >> turns out that keystone is definitely good for the economy. the d.c. economy.
politico added it up. tens of millions of dollars is being spent on it. the irony here is when both sides really drove down, if you will, it's not a game changer either for the economy or the environment. but it has become such a symbol, you can compare it to years ago, acid rain. which was a decades-long fight. and so both sides are using this as a proxy for climate fights to come. and so not only do you have tons of advertising in d.c., you've noticed at the metro stations especially around capitol hill, around the state department, all over those particular stations, there's signs about keystone. tons of ads on our tv. and all these fake groups, you know, vets for energy and americans for jobs. you can trace it back and figure out it's either for labor or for the oil bobry or one of the
interested groups. >> putting the business fortunes aside, is the keystone pipeline a good thing for the united states of america in terms of jobs and energy? >> i think it's undeniably good for jobs. it takes a huge number of people to build a pipeline. and the kind of skilled jobs you like. >> that's why laborers are for it. >> yes. if they don't build it, they will have to take it by train. or it's going to go to china. and china is not going to refine it as well as we do. what happens in china four days later goes to los angeles. i think the climate change people are very u.s.-centric and don't understand the global politics of it which is canada wanted to send it here, it's a little cheaper and better. but they will send it away. it's not going to come out -- stay in the ground if there is no pipeline. i agree with you in terms of this thing has become much larger than it really should be. because there's lots of ways to get oil to refineries in texas and louisiana. this is just one of them. but it is the fastest and it is
the quickest. >> what's your hunch, mike? does this get approved down the road? >> a long-time belief was the president would improve it. after the delay, people were not so sure anymore. >> yeah. 2016. >> but it's a part of the odd coalition. you have obama consultants on both sides of this fight. >> right. mike allen, it's a fascinating look at washington if nothing else at the moment. >> have a great day. coming up, the obsession with disney's "frozen" keeps growing. moms love it, kids love it, marines love it. it's politicians' turns. we have the parody ad. but first how will the nfl owners react if an owner went on a racist tirade like donald sterling. richard sherman will weigh in. we'll have that next. ♪
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♪ all right. time for some sports. cramer and i were talking before the show about kevin durant's speech. >> watch it. you will feel great about this country. watch this speech. >> the part to his mom was beautiful. but if you watch the full
11-minute speech, he goes down the line. every teammate and talks about each about why he loves them and what they mean to him. and this is at his mvp conference. >> no notes. this is a speech that must be watched. everybody feels that athletes are selfish, just out for the money. you watch this and you will say the finest isn't. >> you will cry. you've got to watch the whole thing. last night on the court in the playoffs, the thunder -- >> don't we have someone on today? >> his mother's coming on. >> isn't that cool? >> thunder and the clippers during the semis. durant playing like the newly crowned mvp. he had 32 points. thunder win 112-101 to even up the series one game a piece. in indianapolis, pacer had to have this one after losing the first game at home. and roy hibbert who'd been criticized for disappearing all playoffs long had a huge game
last night. season high 28 points. the big man wakes up. the pacers beat the wizards. that series now tied. playoffs continue tonight with the nets in miami and the spurs hosting the blazers for another pair of game two conference semifinal matchups. that first game wasn't close. >> they will win one back in brooklyn. >> none of that matter nous. >> they have turned brooklyn around. 2 million people, never knew it was a city until the nets came. >> they had a good team this year too. richard sherman is cashing in. he became the highest paid cornerback in the league after signing a four-year contract extension worth $40 million in guaranteed cash. that makes him the highest paid corner in the nfl. but it wouldn't be a sherman story without controversy. he was talking about donald sterling's ban from the nba. he told "time" magazine he
doesn't believe roger goodell would have dolled out the same punishment. quote, we have an nfl team called the redskins. i don't think the nfl really is as concerned as they show. the nfl is more of a bottom line league. if it doesn't affect the bottom line, they're not concerned. his contract extension goes right in. >> richard sherman said i had the best imitation of him. >> can we see it? >> i'm off my game. >> you can't say that. >> dwooel it at the break and we'll decide. >> real quick, we've grot jon gruden coming in coming in in a little while. he'll be hosting the draft. what do your eagles need? >> our general manager has said we need a cornerback, need a safety. kelvin benjamin, i still think it goes that way. >> okay. we will talk to jon gruden in the 7:00 a.m. hour. and al 8:00 -- >> and ahead --
>> you made us believe. you kept us off the street. you put clothes on our backs, food on the table. you sacrificed for us. you the real mvp. >> wow. that beautiful woman right there wanda pratt, that's kevin durant's mother, she will join us here live with her reaction to that moving speech a couple days ago. . but first, "time" magazine tells us what vladimir putin really wants. don't go away. "morning joe." ♪
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in planned military exercises of the country's nuclear forces. it's a mixed signal following putin's announcement he's pulling his troops back from the border with ukraine. joining us now on set, editing manager of "time" magazine. she's here to talk about the latest issue with pooutin on th cover. what does he want? >> i think the first thing he wants is to erase the memory of the 1990s where russia was being humiliated by the west. but i don't think he wants open war. i think what we saw last night is he was losing control of what was happening in senior ukraine. >> one amazing photo, by the way. show the photo. >> you should know our correspondent in reporting the story was dragged out of his car, pistol whipped by pro-russian separatists, taken captive. it is a very dangerous story to be covering.
i think that putin among other things realizes it is not possible to control some of the passions that are being unleashed. and so i think part of what we saw last night, has not pulled the troops back from the border yet. but by lowering the tensions, i think some of that is this was getting outside of even his control. >> is anybody in russia that can challenge vladimir putin on any front? or is he a de facto czar? >> in the course of these last weeks where his approval rating is back in the 80s, he's cracked down on bloggers, social media, so he's making it much harder. >> been killing journalists for years. it's just -- >> nancy, why is he so popular inside russia? >> well, i think it does go back to a proud country that did feel
humiliat humiliated. the line between nationalism and patriotism and dangerous global threat is a continuous one. and i think there's been a lot of public support for it. but i also think no one wants to be saddled with a failed state or a long slogging bloody war which is what would happen if he had to send troops into ukraine. >> gene robinson, inside the magazine in the package about russia, there's a piece from our buddy john meacham. meacham says the president's critics say he's weak and whiney but he's doing what most presidents do, muddling through. a couple months into this thing bb how can we assess the president's moves? >> okay, i guess. i don't see what else the president could have done. he has european allies who have to come along who are reluctant to apply tougher sanctions.
it's not clear that tougher sanctions would deter what russia has been doing in any of that. i think nancy is absolutely light about what putin wants. i think he wants to be remembered with the great after his name. he wants to be putin the great like peter the great in the transition of the czars. and that's how he thinks of himself. and i think ukraine is kind of very special to him and to russia. i think president obama kind of understands this dynamic and has done what can be done to try to contain it with the understanding that there's not that much we can do. we're not going to send troops, but we're going to reinforce nato and send a signal that, you know, you can't go but so far. >> couple other pieces. you have it's time to let teenagers drink again. the age 21 rule pushes kids
towards pills and other anti-social behaviors. >> this is camille arguing a libertarian argument that the drinking age of 21 makes no sense. and part of her argument is that we are depriving young people from the ability to learn how to drink responsibly and socially in a sort of public setting that's been part of european culture, obviously, for centuries where you might get a glass of wine at a family celebration. and you learn how to use alcohol responsibly. what's happened with the 21-year-old drinking age which was instituted with the best intentions is it's driven drinking unmonitored. we've seen a huge increase in binge drinking. >> we're seeing it -- let's be transparent here. we live in the same town. >> we do. >> and we're -- let's not even talk about 18 years and older. i'm struggling. i have two teenagers.
the drunk kids that stumble around our town every friday and saturday night. i'm talking most of them. most of them. freshmen, sophomores, juniors, seniors. >> and those are high school kids. >> and they're binge drinking. how would this help? >> i don't think anyone is arguing that high school kids should be, you know -- >> but doesn't this bring it closer to -- i mean, if you move it down to 18, isn't that going to actually move the problem of children starting earlier to even younger? >> we already have the problem of children starting earlier. and i think what she is arguing is that we have made it impossible to help as adults to help them learn the difference between irresponsible drinking. >> so we've got to go, but also just let people know also you've got a story on a fascinating book by 43-year-old -- interesting title. marx 2.0.
i was looking at -- saying that. >> thomas has caused a stir in financial and political circles. arguing that debate on the table. >> fairly obvious as far as the problem goes. people make more money on the investments than the rest of america makes on labor that we're going to have inequities. >> so his mainly opposite argument that wealth will trickle down, he's saying as the wealthy control more capital and the capital increases faster than the economy grows, that has the economy grows you're going have growing income inequality. he likens to where the u.s. is now to where france was in about 1789. >> we know now that went. we'll check out the latest edition of "time." thank you, nancy gibbs. coming up, harry reid knows one big difference between koch brothers and sheldon adelson.
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mika are talking about dresses. >> and jurs. she's injured. >> can i ask you something? have you or a member of your family been injured on the job? >> yeah. >> what happened? >> well, i was -- >> we have a standing cam over here. >> i was entering the building this morning and i was in a rush and -- it's swelling. it's down a little bit. >> it's ice. that must hurt. >> and the door was on top of my foot. and my 2-year-old has this great expression, he knocks something over and says uh-oh. i was alone and i said uh-oh. >> you can sue nbc. >> do republican dos that? >> yes, we do. the ethics rules of this state forbid me from promising you a
big cash settlement, but i promise you a big cash settlement. one of my favorites. >> joining the table, the very injured and in pain and she's always in pain when she's sitting here with me, but today issue just in pain. and the host of msnbc now alex wagner joins us. and in washington, nbc news chief white house correspondent and political director chuck todd. >> chuck did it. >> here we go. back off of chuck. >> jim cramer, jeremy peters still with us as well. >> what? >> nicole is blaming you for her injury. >> she is now. >> he had that door rigged. >> how did she snow? the trickiness of powers at 30 rock. >>. >> who would blame you after all the terrible things she said about you? you spoke with senator harry
reid yesterday and talked about why he was going after some businessmen and not other businessmen. take a look. >> they are the two richest people in the world. they're in it to make money. that's their whole goal here is to add zeros to their billions. i don't think that's the case -- >> you don't think that's thes say with adelson? >> i know sheldon adelson, he's not in this for money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. now, sheldon adelson views are keeping with the democrats on choice, all kinds of things. don't pick on him. he's not in it to make money. >> don't pick of sheldon. >> but the headline above the fold in today's "washington post" suggests sheldon adelson is benefitting from this
donations. he's donated to groups around the country and many are siding with him to try to outlaw online gambling. adelson as one of his team members called it is playing three levels of chess. even bringing on strategists including blanche lincoln of arkansas to pushback online gam ling. >> jim cramer and i were talking about how destructive online gambling is and the addiction it causes. this is about harry reid. and for harry reid to say sheldon adelson is not in it for his business interests seems absurd. >> it certainly is a reminder that i've always said nevada is a one-party state. and that party is the party that takes place on the strip by the guys that own the strip. and it does seem as if it is amazing in some ways how you see this in nevada where members of
both parties will line up and be supportive of these casino moguls. reid yesterday with me essentially endorsed brian sandoval, the republican governor. there's this power structure there that they all just sort of -- they're not as aggressive against each other if -- and you have to ask yourself if it's because the casino folks are happy. then others are happy. it was amazing to me what he said about adelson. >> -- when the governor may be running against harry reid two years from now. >> well, you know, reid's reasoning by the way was because there's no good candidates running against the governor. and it sounds like maybe you kill them with kindness. >> all right. i want to show another part of your interview. senator reid also weighed in on the prospect of hillary clinton running for president again.
>> everybody knows i love the clintons. including chelsea. >> and do you want her to be the nominee? do you think there should be a healthy primary process? >> why nopt -- i rarely think primaries are healthy. >> oh, you don't think they're good for democrats. >> for anybody. >> why's that? >> 'em being facetious. >> you think it would be better for secretary clinton if she has a serious democratic rival. i believe that the primary was with obama and clinton was an extremely healthy process. i think it was wonderful. >> i think you are going to be in a new category, chuck, of fantastic awkward moments. >> that was strange. >> my god. >> but mika and joe, they all revolve around the same topic. >> yes, they do.
>> hillary clinton pen people that didn't support her in '08. and you asking -- i'm just saying, that's two. i'll wait until there's a third before i decide there's a pattern. >> i think there is a pattern. i've seen it too. and i think it happened yesterday on our set before you went all -- everyone on the set we were talking about a story related to the clintons and everyone like this. >> sort of froze up. >> then you just went off which is good. >> yeah. still some -- >> i don't know. let's try alex wagner on this. >> alex, here's harry reid, the guy who went to barack obama way early in his senate career and said you need to run for president. >> where is he on hillary? >> he's not ready for hillary. i love the clintons. i don't want her to be the nominee, but i love the clintons. >> well, this is like -- the myth making and the fear amongering around the clintons like don't cross them otherwise a door in the floor opens up.
also they are the future of the democratic party and incredibly accomplished. >> is that true? the door on the floor opens up. >> we are led to believe there is this clinton industrial complex where names are kept, sins are recorded. >> whether or not they are pouring over their notes on a nightly basis would be up for discussion. you can see in his -- especially now that barack obama is gone. >> saying he wants a healthy primary process. >> joe -- >> we're seeing this more and more. some hesitancy among high-profile democrats. not just blindly get behind hillary clinton. >> you wonder if it's -- look. you know, everybody's trying to
figure how do they handle this stuff behind the scenes? were there real bitter feelings among the folks who pick eed oba over clinton. i mean, jim clyburn has told us about his uncomfortable phone call. you can't help but wonder that the way things went down in '07 and eigh'08, that when all this momentum was going towards obama, that maybe some of these wounds didn't heal inside the party. as much as we'd like to think they did. >> we talked about south carolina and jim clyburn. that was really ugly when the race card was allegedly played by bill clinton. things got really ugly there. but nevada, there was also that scene of bill clinton wandering around the strip accusing the democratic apparatus out there of fixing the election. >> which is code for harry reid.
right? >> right. accused harry reid of fixing that primary too. so there are obviously a lot of scars from 2008. >> that's what i think it is. scar tissue. >> really? i think it might be more of what alex is saying, but i'm scared to say it. but i just did didn't i? you did, didn't you? >> yeah, kind of. i think. don't tell anybody. >> there are reports at some point everyone has to get on record saying this is the deal. and we've seen it in the press too. anyhow, let's move on to the attack in benghazi in 2012 which has nothing to do with politics some say. but they're facing strong criticism this morning for attempts to fund raise off the attack which left four americans dead. republican congressman trey gowdy who is leading a select committee in selecting the attacks says it would be wrong to raise money off benghazi. here's what he said on "morning joe" yesterday.
>> i have never sought to raise a single penny on the backs of four murdered americans. there are -- still and even in a culture of hyperpartisanship, certain things ought to be above politics like the murder of our four fellow americans. >> but about 30 minutes earlier, the national republican congressional committee sent out this fund raising e-mail from a website called benghazi watch dogs.com. the e-mail lets recipients link to a page that asks for donations up to $500 and refers to them as benghazi watch dogs. >> nicole, i agree with trey. don't fund raise off of the death of four americans. and yet the same morning the nrcc is trying to give donations of $25 to $500. >> it's stupid. and i think it's going to stop because it's unsustainable. the select committee is going to go forward and be taken seriously, they have to stop.
what fascinates me about this story is democrats have no appetite to get to the bottom of why susan rice who to me is one of the most promising women and competent which in the obama administration, was denied the privilege of serving as the country's secretary of state because of what she said in large part because of what she said on five sunday shows. what she said on five sunday shows was we now know crafted by the white house. why don't democrats want to know how that message came together when it resulted in literally -- that secretary of state post was ripped out from underneath her because of what she did on the sunday shows. we now know the white house shaped that message. and the fact it's so political, that democrats have no appetite for understanding why she said what she said, i don't believe in the moment the white house is covering up what happened. but i think they are not being forthcoming about how those
messages were crafted. >> and they're asked -- i said a couple days ago if i'm practicing law and a judge asks for discovery and i'm supposed to turn over everything pertaining to one subject and i don't turn over a document that goes to the heart of it which said susan rice, you are to say this and not this and came from the west wing, a judge would hold me in contempt of court. i would go to jail. and in the first place, they're trying to show hillary clinton. they're not going to find this out in the investigation. they're trying to show hillary clinton as quote, too tired, to go on the sunday talk shows. so they shove susan rice out there on something she's not qualified to talk about because it's not under her jurisdiction. it was under hillary's jurisdiction. then they gave her talking points on an issue she hasn't been following. scene she's basically set up to be knocked down. >> okay. couple things. i would just say 13 hearings, 25,000 pages of testimony.
if that's not some kind of appetite to explore this, i don't know what appetite is. >> we're still in documents that the white house is holding back. >> i think it's fair to ask the question why was this -- >> all those investigations obviously didn't mean a whole lot, did they? because the white house we just find out last week is not cooperating. >> alex is right. the cia and the state department turned over enough information that we learned a lot of important things. these were not state department outposts which is a good fact for hillary clinton. they were cia outposts. that made the financial issue not a political football. and alex is right. there were hundreds of thousands of pages turned over except for the document created in the west wing. and let me tell you something. as the white house communications director, when the white house sends out talking points for a sunday show, they trump anything that came from anywhere else. >> but if you re-read that e-mail, i mean, everybody has focused on one of the four talking points. the other three are totally benign and exactly what you would expect from the white house. the fourth one, i think, is open
to interpretation. there's a lot of litigation that will continue about that. but for this to launch a thousand ships -- >> where's the ambiguity? >> fir when you have something that goes to the heart of the matter? >> does it? >> yeah. when they say susan rice don't talk about barack obama's policy -- >> failure of policy. >> talk about a videotape. of course you know this goes to the heart. don't insult our intelligence on this. >> i'm not. >> when they're telling her to talk about a videotape, you're saying that doesn't go to the haert heart of the matter? >> i believe the number one talking point on that e-mail was our job is to keep americans safe. we will not waiver in that. that was the number one. >> i'll wave that flag. >> these attacks were. >> reporter: that doesn't negate what happens at the end. >> there are two things to litigate here. one to your earlier point, why
is this e-mail coming out now? there's a legitimate question. >> why is it? >> i don't know the answer to that. i think the white house should be asked. the second, there was an assessment the cia had as for whether these attacks were rooted in protest. that nuance was stripped from the e-mail ben rhodes sent. >> because we now know the cia, their analysis did not include any connection between the video. the cia testified that certainly there were protests in the region, but not that they were tied to the video. that's why the white house talking points are so -- i think are being viewed with such a degree of suspicion by republicans. >> can i raise a point here quickly? i think what we're really getting at here is what will the select committee in the house tell us that's new. alex you raised this question. four house committees have looked into this. i wonder if they decide to subpoena hillary clinton.
the only new big splashy development i see coming out of this committee is getting hillary clinton before congress. and we don't know if that's going to happen. we know republicans would love to see her testify before congress, because they have been trying to prove for a year now that the obama administration and hillary clinton know more than they're letting on. and that's why you're seeing all this fund raising off this. you can bang up republicans for fund raising off of this, but it would be political folly for them not to. the enthusiasm, the intensity with which the right views this issue is very hard to overstate. you go to town meetings and you hear benghazi come up even more than obamacare sometimes. that's what this is about. >> i want to go to capitol hill, congressman from maryland elijah cummings. >> good morning. >> if the tables were turnd and the republican administration had not released an e-mail like that, wouldn't you be asking a
lot of questions? >> yeah. i'd be asking why. let me start off by saying -- wait a minute. speaker boehner can shut this fund raising effort down right now and he should. >> we all agree. >> you shouldn't be raising money in regard to this matter. joe, if you want to send out a message. send that one. >> i sent it out at the top of the 6:00 hour. so go ahead. >> and so with regard to the e-mail, you know, i don't know how they go about sending these things out. but i do know it takes time to have to go through and make sure they are obeying a subpoena. and i'm an attorney. i know. i've seen quite a bit. but at the same time going back to what alex said, keep in mind. as i recall, there's one reference to benghazi in this e-mail. and that the e-mail that they're
talking about with regard to rhodes, it was consistent with what the cia was already saying. they have three parts to this investigation. one, the talking points. two, what happened that night. and three, what are we doing to keep our people safe? come on now. you just spent about ten minutes talking about their talking points. i want to make sure we keep our people safe. and hopefully this committee, if it's a fair committee and it's one that is truly bipartisan, we've tried the partisan route and apparently that hasn't gotten us as far as we need to go according to republicans and we need to do something that is fair. as leader pelosi has said, even steven and be treated more like an ethics committee. so that there is bipartisanship with regard to issuing of subpoenas. bipartisanship with regards to wherever to discovery. and bipartisanship with regard to depositions and access to
witnesses. that has not happened in my committee. i can tell you. it's been becausically one sided. >> you know, i agree with you. it needs to be a straightforward committee. i personally think there needs to be six republicans and six democrats on there. republicans don't need to fund raise off of it. but there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. and this e-mail that has been sent from the white house as nicole said, that takes precedent over everything else when it is -- >> i'm sorry, joe. i have to disagree with you on that. >> no, no, no. >> hold on a second. don't twist my words. >> no, no, no. i'm telling you what i'm saying. >> when susan rice gets an e-mail from the west wing to instruct her what to say on a sunday talk show, if you don't think that takes precedent over any other document generated by any other department in the united states government, then you don't know how white house is run. >> well, i do know.
and i know that whenever folks from the white house go out on these talks shows on sundays and others, they send out talking points. but we got to go back to the document. now, it does not take a select committee depending more and more of americans' money to get to the bottom of that. i don't see what this select committee is going to be able to do that we couldn't do in our committee. keep in mind, we have -- chairman issa has four subpoena powers. he has used it without consultation from the democrats. he has that. >> let's talk about yesterday. lois lerner. let's stop talking about benghazi. i think you'd agree with me we should move on. >> all right. >> the house voted yesterday, "new york times" jeremy peters reporting to find lois lerner in contempt. what's your take on that? you compared it to mccarthyism. >> oh, i'm sorry. i thought i was talking to
somebody else. >> if i have you here, why would i want to talk to anybody else? >> i thought you were talking to jeremy. let me say this. this is the first time since the 1950s and '60s that a committee has stripped somebody of their fifth amendment right and then at the same time went on to a contempt citation. and this is unprecedented except in the mccarthy era. 9/ even in that era it failed. i wonder where we're going here. it seems as if there has been an effort to, again, my argument was not that i don't want to hear what miss lerner had to say. i want to hear it. but you know what? there's something that is more significant than that. and that is upholding the constitutional rights of every single american. that's what this a isn't.
>> jeremy, you wrote about it. tell us about it. >> well, i think it's certainly more than just about any episode that i've witnessed on capitol hill in the last year, illustrated how far apart these two parties are. congressman, i would ask you, certainly the atmosphere that's so poisoned right now has led to democrats saying we're not going to participate or we don't think we should participate in any of these investigations that republicans are spearheading. so i just wonder with the benghazi select committee convening, what do democrats have to gain by participating in that? because mrs. pelosi has said she's not sure she wants democrats on that committee at all. >> well, i think pelosi wants fairness. and i can understand both sides of it. she's seen what's happened with the four investigations that have happened in the house and they've been strictly partisan. and then she has also seen the way that we've been treated in
the oversight committee and other committees where a staff report is put out without any democratic input whatsoever. and that, you know, the subpoenaing of witnesses with no consultation from democrats. so what she's looking for is a fair situation. on the other hand, if we are not in the room, i'm concerned about that because i can't imagine a hearing being at all fair if we're there. if we're not there. but at the same time i could understand leader pelosi's position that we don't want to legitimatize something that is obviously a partisan effort. >> all right. >> so it's a tough issue. >> all right. >> congressman cummings, thank you so much. it's always great to have you on the show. >> alex, stay if you can. then we'll watch you again on
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there's more divorce, more infidelity. i did my own survey of over a thousand women in this country and found she struggles how to make it all work from career to housework to her romantic relationship to money. >> which, i'm sorry. let's just go right there. because i think men can't handle it for the most part even if they say they can. i think it's really tough. >> it can emasculate them. >> they must not pay rent in manhattan. my husband would think it was awesome if i made anybody close to what he makes. >> there's been a lot of headlines since i wrote this book like is bread winning women is problem? the reality is no. we want to celebrate this. the problem is we have antiquated expectations and different ideas of what it means. >> here's the deal. the long-term analysis, i think, has yet to be written.
i like your rules. i want to get to them because they're really important. but i think women who make more probably burn out sooner. and it all balances out in the end. am i wrong? >> well, we live longer than men, that is for sure. >> also to your point about women who are successful wanting to balance all these other things is women are successful in the work place, one would assume all those career go getterism would translate to other areas and you want to make sure everything else was okay on the home front. when she makes more, she does more housework which is insanity. it's like she's trying to overcompensate. >> in every way. let's talk about that. you have good rules for bread winning women. face the facts. rewrite the fairy tale. definitely. that's over. >> i love number six. >> level the financial playing field. what are you talking about? >> especially in the relationship where she makes more, emotions can muck up how
to manage money. you want to make everyone's money have meaning. that's what i get across in that chapter. >> i have to get to five. hack the hypotheticals. five, cater to the male brain. what is that? >> this is about sayi ining the are gender differences in how men and women need to be communicated to. you tell me you're doing too much housework and you're burnt out, this is how to communicate with your guy. men want to provide. they want to help. >> isn't it just sex? i don't get it. wait. i don't get it. >> well, there's that. >> what? are we all talking around the same thing here? >> honey, i need your help in this thing and give him the gift of duty. >> he wants to be your hero. it's not just i forgot to make dinner, help me. he needs to take over the domain. >> doesn't that just reinforce this whole male/female dynamic at the root of the problem? >> yes and no.
i'll tell you two things. the couples that thrive most when she makes more are the ones who transcend expectations in the gender roles. >> then they can put the seamless app on their phone and they don't have the conversation. >> as long as there's dinner on the table. but you have to respect there are gender differences in how what our needs are and how we communicate to one another. you can't expect that your man will anticipate you. you can't. you've got to communicate effectively. >> like i said -- >> and number six. buy yourself a wife. >> yeah. okay. some of these are really good. >> that's a great one. >> i think number five you might want to redo the definition. i'm going to help you out here. >> well, the headline can ensite for sure. if you read the chapter, you will get it. >> i would love to have a wife that makes more money than me. because i wouldn't wake up at 6:00 in the morning or at 4:00
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we studied people 70 years and older. those who reported eating high amounts of carbohydrates in their diets, in particular sugar, were more likely to develop problems with their memory and their thinking and decision making. later in loo i have. this is what we called mild cognitive impairment which is a very strong risk factor for developing alzheimer's later on in life. >> so a diet heavy in sugars throughout their lifetime? or the use of sugar after they turn 70? >> well, we asked them the questions at the time when they were 70 years and older. so we asked them about the diet in the year prior to the study. this gave us an average look over a one-year period. what types of foods they were eating. sop if they had high carbohydrate intake and high intake of sugar, we found they
had a risk of mild cognitive impairment which often leads to dementia later on in life. >> just one second. doctor, if you look at overall diet in life whether it starts at 70 or not in terms of increasing dementia, aren't a lot of these substances we are finding fairly addictive. and so you find that if you eat sugar as a child, it ends up staying with you for the rest of your life. it's hard to change that diet at 70. >> well, mika, i think you're right. i think there's a lot more need for research in this area. we need to continue to fund the nih and do the work that's necessary to understand this particular aspect of lifestyle, life decisions, diet. you're absolutely right. the habits we form when we're young do tend to follow through for mid-life and late-life. it's highly probable that the findings of what we're eating in mid-life do reflect what we eat as a child. but that's an area that needs
more research. >> dr. roberts, could you tell us specifically what food groups are we talking about in terms of at age 70 or age 60 or whatever. what food groups should we be wary of eating? >> what the study specifically looked at right now was looking at the relative balance of carbohydrates, protein, and fats. and if you look at those groups, i think it's the relative proportion of what you're taking in terms of the calories that you're putting into your body that's important. if you're eating healthy protein, healthy fats, and a healthy amount of carbohydrates. typically if you reduce the amount of simple sugars which are the sugar you add to the food, the sugar you get from your desserts, the candy bars. those are the things we don't want you to be eating. we want you to be eating vegetables, healthy proteins, healthy fats. and there's a lot in the literature about fatty acids.
fatty fish. and fruits and vegetables. those are the things we're thinking about. now, the reason these are important is if you go over on the calories and don't balance it out with the amount of exercise you're getting that's what tends to drive you down to develop diabetes. and our study show the people who had type 2 diabetes in mid-life were at high risk of having a shrinking of their brain when we looked at their brains in late life. and so this goes back to the question you asked initially. we need to start teaching people to have the right diet when they're young. when they're in preschool, middle school, adolescence. not wait until mid-life when we begin to tell people to change their habits. so this is something we need to stress. >> yes, dr. rosebud roberts and dr. noseworthy giving us another reason with their search into dementia on why to reframe the diet. the diet has been pushed over
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do you think houston says why don't we bring johnny manziel in at number one. do you see that happening? >> i certainly could. i've been a proponent of manziel. he's not a finished product. you've got to have an imagination to coach johnny football and somebody is going to be very fortunate. >> what about the whole spectacle of the draft itself? it begins today, it's going to go on for six weeks, constant television. when you first started out, they could get in a room, go 10, 12, 15 rounds in four hours. what impact does it have on the game, on personnel and the teams? >> that's a great question. this has become such a national spectacle, with the immediate way it is, not just espn and the internet. there's so much knowledge out
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they are the two richest people in the world. and they are in it to make money. that's their whole goal here is to add zeros to their billions. and i don't think that's the case with any -- >> you don't think that's the case with adelson -- >> i know sheldon adelson. he's not in this for money. he's not in this to make money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. now sheldon adelson, social
views are in keeping with the democrats on choice, on all different kinds things. don't pick on him. he's not in it to make money. >> wow. that's amazing. >> that's pretty funny. >> we all laughed. >> did you see gene earlier? >> oh, gene was laughing? >> gene the laughing machine. >> nicolle wallace and chuck todd is in washington. joining us, nbc political analyst, form are chairman of the republic national committee, michael steele. >> that's twice he's says
sheldon is not involved in politics for any financial reason. i'm not picking on sheldon. i support him on this issue. but he is going around the country spending a lot of money to try to influence people to ban internet gambling. >> and, by the way, who if you have an expansion of internet gaming, who could end up being hurt by this? well, people that own brick and mortar casinos and who owns them? oh, right, sheldon adelson. what's bothering me with the infusion of the billion mayairb the political parties only have selective billionaire outrage. they're only mad at the billionaires that they're not pals with. they're missing the idea that we're allowing oligarchs, i
don't care if they're liberal or conservative, whether it's bloomberg on guns or the koch brothers and regulations, you look at all of this and you say to yourself should the power to decide what issues we're debating lie in the hands of three or four people in american politics and that's what's corrosive in these systems. >> republicans are more concerned about democrats that spend a lot of money and vice versa. >> chuck captured it, deciding what we talk about and how we decide these issues. the fact that we've got harry reid who all of a sudden now doesn't have a problem with sheldon adelson but before was
screaming holy hell about the guy, along with the koch brothers, is just such a disingenuous load of crap -- >> well, that's one way of putting it. >> that is one way of putting it. >> harry reid, at least he was very equivocal about hillary clinton, the prospect of hillary clinton running for president again. take a look. >> everybody knows i love the clintons, i don't need to say more, including chelsea. >> and do you want her to be the nominee? do you think there should be a healthy primary procesprocess? >> why not? rarely do i think primaries are healthy. >> is that right? you don't think they're good for democrats? >> for anybody. >> why is that? >> why go through the trouble? why not just be anointed -- i'm
being facetious. >> i thought you were. you think it would be better for hillary to have an rival? >> i think the process of going up against clinton was wonderful. >> oh, my god. >> that was awful, chuck! no, no, you were brilliant, chuck. but it was so awkward on the other side. >> you're like mr. magoo, inspector clouseau mixed along with somebody else and all of a sudden they say these things that sink them. >> bumbling along. >> you did a great job here but there were about four or five times that we all sort of erupted in laughter with the responses. >> i'm with you. >> and the awkward pauses. >> to me it's what makes a harry reid interview somewhat
compelling. he's this mix of -- he's so mild mannered on one hand, his demeanor. but, man, he's got a sharp tongue. when he paused, it was making my me wonder what does he really want to say? i wish i could read the thought bubble in his head. >> when was the last time that harry reid did an interview that someone on his staff didn't have to clean up afterward? >> i'm not characterizing my interview. >> did you have no interview with anyone on his staff afterward? >> with one thing the folks that used to work with him just say you get used to the point that harry reid is harry reid and he will say what he wants and he seems to be unafraid. by the way, i asked him about the harsh language he uses, whether it was on the koch
brothers or form are president bush. he claims he has never had a regret about a single thing he said, name calling and this evenings li-- things like that. that's harry reid. >> what do you think it is about the state of our national politics that on both sides there's unrest, harry reid among the democrats and mitch mcconnell among the republicans? >> to me it means there's something bubbling beneath the surface that can be very troubling. that is playing out with the establishment types and gop party of the tea party. now the democrats are going to come into this phase as you get closer to 2015 with hillary at the top of the ticket or not is that the establishment really needs to control the way the politics flows.
harry reid has been very good as a checkpoint along the way. that interview was one of those examples that, yeah, whatever i didn't like about hillary in 2008, i still don't like. >> i'm afraid to say it. >> but i'm afraid to say it but if i need to, i will. >> you look at jim clyburn, very important, an recall primary state. he's angry with the clintons, he just wrote about it in his books and a lot of scar tissue in 2008 when he suggested it was rigged. >> but i love him. >> but i have no intent of making her road easier. >> it's interesting to go after the koch brothers. i'd ask chuck the fact that harry reid continues to go after the koch brothers, it's kind of falling on deaf ears. there are certain base democrats
that get all riled up on it but they're not making that case otherwise to make those two villains of the right. >> this is an entire democratic campaign strategy because they have this idea if they demonize the koch brothers, they can somehow make the republican candidates in some of these places, they can turn the koch brothers moo bain capital, for instance, feigned a w-- find a is there a business where the koch brothers are advertising and they can localize it and make the republican own it. step one is raise the name idea of the koch brothers, so reid is using his senate time to do that. but in our most recent poll, we checked out what the koch id
was. it seems now they're having the conversation with themselves for the koch brothers, they haven't created some sort of anger in the middle with persuadable voters. >> amid calls to resign, the head of the department of veterans affairs will stay the course. jim, tell us about the scandal that's weighing on the military right now. >> mika, it seems we've heard of all of this before. the v.a. has long been accused of not providing american's veterans with the military and medical care that they need when they need it. this case is different. it rises to a different level where the allegations appear to border on something criminal. the latest scandal comes out of the v.a. hospital in phoenix where as many as 40 veterans reportedly died while waiting
for treatment. >> secretary aaron shinseki said he was surprised by the allegations but accepts full responsibility. are you willing as secretary of v.a. affairs to accept full responsibility? >> i am. i asked the inspector general to go and conduct a complete, detailed, thorough investigation. >> reporter: some in congress and the american legion demand shinseki resign. but he brushed it off. will you resign? >> i would say i serve at the pleasure of the president. >> reporter: it's alleged hospital administrators buried appointments in a secret list and then ordered the files destroyed. >> it really cuts to the core of our country's confidence in the
v.a. the entire public has lost confidence in the v.a. >> congress is poised to way in on all this as early as today. we expect to see subpoenas issued for v.a. hospital records that they have failed voluntarily to provide to congress. a round of hearings is expected next. congress will want to know what happened here and what went wrong and was there any criminal activity involved. >> given shinseki's background or career, is there a level of huge shock that he has been unable to make a crack, a dent into the v.a. bureaucracy? it's as bad today as it was five, six, ten years ago. >> i've followed general shinseki and now secretary shinseki for years. he's always been one to hide his emotions, high shock or anger or frustration really. but when i asked him yesterday
do you really completely understand the level of outrage over all of this, he said, "i think i do." he is so focused on getting the job done in sort of a militaristic-type fashion, we do this, this, this, hourly he doesn't seem to grasp the level of heart break and in some cases some suspect as a result of what may be criminal activity. it just doesn't seem to register with him at this point. i believe he is angry, he says he was taken by total surprise by these allegations. but this spreading to at least four or five different medical facilities. >> jim, thank you so much for
being on this morning. >> thank you. >> chuck todd, we'll see you today at 9:00. >> in tattoo parlor, right? >> i want to say today's show has really shown your range. >> thank you, mika, after beating me up. >> i've been back handed praising you. >> at least you admit it was backhanded. >> is this the same tattoo parlor with nancy pelosi? >> it is the same tattoo parlor where they did the little fake gag. this was on our trend political question. someone your house with a
tattoo. it's one of those cultural this evening -- things we all know but haven't seen it in a number. everyone you know probably has a tattoo and notice we're not judging you anymore, there's not a stigma anymore. >> well -- >> no, it is less so. you see it everywhere. you're like, whoa, there is sort of a radical change over the years. >> i know you upper east siders don't have tattoos but the upper west siders. >> barnicle? >> a couple. chuck and i are on the all-ink team. >> straight ahead on "morning joe," kevin durant's having a year to remember and he says it's all because of one woman.
>> i wasn't supposed to be here. you made us believe, you kept us off the street, put clothes on our back, food on the table. you sacrificed for us. you're the real mvp. >> his mother wanda pratt is going to join us later. that is so moving. and up next, it isn't just washington who has something at stake with the keystone people line. but first here's bill karins. >> how can you not root for kevin durant. i want to show you some pictures from the central plains yesterday. we dealt with severe weather. we didn't get the tornado but we did get the hail. i think the hail was very impressive. today it could be enormous, like the type of hail shattering windshields. ardmore reported golf ball-size
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scratching their head asking what's it all aboot? washington. >> there are 84 pipelines right now between canada and the u.s. -- >> there are 84 pipelines between canada and the united states? why is this such a big deal? >> that's the question we have. when we look at the state department reports, it basically says that if the oil doesn't come on a pipeline, it will come on rail. and they've been proven to be correct. the amount of oil, crude oil on rail coming to the united states has grown 50% one year and the next year. what the consequences? higher emissions, higher risk for people. again, according to the state department, and higher costs. >> so the state department and
canada both support the peopleline because it's better for the environment and safer for people close to the transporting of it. >> that's right. for three reasons we support it. it's become -- the people opposed to it five years ago said if you have do not approve the pipeline, the oil will stay in the ground. that's fallen like a house of cards in terms of the facts because the oil is just coming done on rail. when you look out your window and see more tanker trucks, you see more tanker cars on railways, you should know it's a consequence partially of not approving a pipeline and having go on rail. the oil is coming from canada, from north dakota and montana. it's just the way it's getting to the gulf coast. >> what about legitimate environmental concerns, though, around nebraska and the water ways and potential leakage? we're all familiar with leakage. what about legitimate environment an concern
environmental concerns? >> there was concern about the route in nebraska and it was moved away from the aquifer. the highest security was put in place and approved by the state of nebraska and by the state department in the u.s. >> what's the impression that you have to sort of try to explain or translate to your government or your public about the state of the politics around this issue? >> we're a democracy, unlike some of the other places that import to the united states. >> i'm sorry, this has become one of those polarized issues where on one network people celebrate the peopipeline, on another -- it's become incredibly polarized. >> we would like it to go back to a fact-based, merit-based decision. when people talk about an energy
efficient bill in the senate. it's more energy efficient to transport oil on a pipeline than it is to transport it on a truck or on a rail car. now, there is a role for rail but to have people say no to the pipeline is actually to say yes to higher greenhouse gas emissions. >> are people surprised that president obama has been mired in the politics of all this? >> we thought the state department would inform the president and the american people. we like a fact-based decision making in our country. >> we don't do that much here. >> you have that great quote that you're entitled to your own opinion but you're not entitled to your own fact. we would like the second part of that. >> you hear varying numbers of figures, 25,000 jobs, 50,000
jobs. what are the fact-based -- >> everything i'm using is coming from the state department, not canadian talking points. >> isn't that amazing? >> 44,000. >> the obama state department says 44,000 jobs? >> yes. >> the obama administration says 44,000 jobs, the obama administration says this is coming out of the ground anyway. it's stunning. with all this information, though, do you feel, does the canadian government feel and canadians feel let down by the the administration? >> i feel the only way for the debate to go forward is for people to say factually canada is going to get its oil from other places. we have routes to the east going to india, we have routes to the west. we have these two routes to the united states and keystone is one of them. we prefer obviously to work in our neighborhood to have energy independence with canada, the united states and mexico.
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this bill would designate yogurt as the official state snack money. >> what exactly are we defining as a snack? >> you have breakfast, lunch and dinner and then you have snacks. >> did you consider, say, the potato chip? >> no. >> cheese cake? >> cheese cake of thought more of a desert. >> raisins? >> no. >> cashews? >> never. >> can we consider the carrot cookie? >> the bill is passed. and lastly let me talk about the
state muffin. >> that's real. >> that was real? >> real as in that really happened in a legislative context? >> it did in albany. they can't figure out how to bring jobs to upstate new york, but they can talk about yogurt and pretzels. >> stop lying to our viewers. that did not happen. there's no way that happened. ha, ha, ha, very funny political show, that did not happen. no one is going to get me to believe that happened. >> sarah, a question was asked in the tease regarding fedex about size. do you have the answer? >> yes, turns out size does matter for fedex. >> all right, let me write that down. okay. check. >> this is a huge change, especially for those of us, including myself, who order toilet paper or paper towels online. fedex is going to change the way
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>> it's a a commercial right here, baby. >> you're converts. >> we look at each other and see the phones and go, okay, we just connected. >> you know what they call that? >> i'm not going to put it down but i don't like it. >> once i went to the samsung -- >> really? >> oh, yes. >> there's no going back. once you go samsung -- >> you never go back. >> how are you, guys? >> good. >> thanks for having me on. >> award winning singer donny osmond. >> it was my first single. >> no. ♪ one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch girl ♪ >> do you know that was written for the jackson 5? >> no. >> i'm picking songs that influence me and one of the
songs of michael jackson's "ben." that was written for me. >> no? >> i was on tour and they said let's get michael to sing it. >> a beautiful song. >> everybody song on this album has a story like that. >> you guys really lined up, late 60s, early 70s, the jackson 5 and the osmonds, man. it's hard for people who follow -- >> how old were you? i was. >> 5. i was like 12, 13 when "one bad apple hit" and 13, 14 when "puppy love" hit. >> how did you survive this when, let's face it, michael had a much rougher run of it and you look at child stars time and time again. >> joe, can i poii can point to
things. my parents, i have great parents. family. it gets down to that. i married up. as a matter of fact, it's our 36th anniversary today. >> no way! >> where is she? >> get over here. come over here! it's your anniversary, come on. that's not going to work over there. >> i got to tell you something. sit on my lap. 36 years. ♪ and they called it puppy love ♪ >> this is debbie. >> i'm thomas. >> i just want to say something, she's not just my wife. she's my business partner now. we just came out with a company called donny osmond home. it went from 0 to 60 overnight. home furnishings. she's amazing. >> so now we're working together. >> what's your name? >> debbie.
>> what do you think the secret is to a long marriage? >> i don't know, honey, what do you think? >> she's always right. >> did you see that? >> i don't know. there's no secret. i think you just work at it and you have fun and enjoy the journey. >> whatever it is, you two should sell it because you look amazingly happy. >> we just found out we're having our seventh grandchild. >> there's no way you're a grandmother. what is it did donny that keeps you in love with him? >> ooh. i don't know -- >> be careful. i could kick you off my lap. >> he's just a really sincere, great, down-to-earth kind of person. >> 36 years. what present did he give you sn today? >> today? >> being on this show. actually, we're in town to do some meetings for donny osmond home. it's a work in progress.
we just found out home depot is going to carry some of our products and wayfair.com is carrying, bill.com is coming on board. we have manufacturing partners calling us. >> who would you describe the taste you two are embracing with donny osmond at home? >> it's a style of comfort and casualness and something you can bring your family into and relax. it's not traditional or stuffy. >> you two are relaxed right now. it's not a traditional interview, sitting on the lap. >> has this ever happened? >> no. >> how about this one -- >> after 36 years -- >> that's not happening. >> i'll let you go back and sit. debbie, congratulations. >> whoo! i liked it when he sang to you. that was nice. >> i love this week, this is my
week off, i can come to new york and celebrate our anniversary. we're in vegas next week. marie and i are celebrating our 1,000th show. we were supposed to be there for six weeks in '08. we just got the award for best show of las vegas third year in a row. >> oh, my gosh! >> and that's saying a lot. that's the entertainment capital of the world. >> how are you guys -- you're like the benjamin buttons ageing in reverse. >> must be that mormon lifestyle. >> both of you guys. you guys look amazing. >> i don't know. >> you work out, you eat well, give us some secrets. >> he just did. you don't see her on a bad day.
>> do you do "i'm a little bit country, i'm a little bit rock 'n' roll." >> oh, yes. this is amazing. a couple weeks ago after the meet and greet, there were four generations of ladies, there was the great grandmother, the grandma, the mom and the little girl. she was 5 years old. the great grandmother new me from the andy williams show and i said how does this little 5-year-old know me? she said every time we get in the car she says i i want to hear donny osmond's anaconda song. i said there is no anaconda song and she started singing
♪ anaconda puppy love >> that's so cute. >> your wife made the show this morning. i love it. >> i love her. >> happy anniversary. >> have a good day. >> we're going to top this, believe it or not. i know it's hard because donny osmond is right here. hold on. it's going to be okay, donny. there wasn't a dry eye in the room as kevin durant declared his mother the real mvp. >> oh, that tops it. his mom, wanda pratt joins us next. is that okay? >> that's great. ♪ my music makes me whole, i'm a little bit country ♪ ♪ and i'm a little bit rock 'n' roll ♪ let's share the news tomorrow. today we failrly busy. tomorrow we're booked solid. we close on the house tomorrow. i want one of these opened up. because tomorow we go live... it's a day full of promise.
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♪ ♪ i love basketball so much, i love playing it. i just never thought that i could make it to college, nba or stand up here today in front of you guys and be an nba mvp. it's just a surreal feeling. i failed so many times and got back up. i've been through the toughest times with my family but i'm still standing.
[ applause ] >> and last, my mom. i don't think you know what you did. you made us believe, you kept us off the street, put clothes on our back, food on the table. when you didn't eat, you made sure we ate. you went to sleep hungry. you sacrificed for us. you're the real mvp. [ applause ] >> okay. every time we watch that, we all start crying, but i hear she's crying, too. and she should and for good reason if a good way. that was oklahoma city thunder start and the nba's 2014 most valuable player kevin durant, playing tribute to this woman, the real mvp, his mother. welcome to the show. >> thank you so much to all of
you. >> this is thomas roberts. i was hoping you would be here in person so i could get a hug from you. can you put your arms towards the camera for a virtual hug? >> of course, of course. >> it's hard to watch that video and not well up for anybody. you have to be heartless. how special was it for you to see that honor for your son, so long overdue in many regards but to know how special you are in his mind's eye to be named the mvp? >> oh, wow. i was just really overwhelmed by it. i knew that he's would mention me, but i did not know he would do it so distinctly. and it really just kind of touched my heart. i was overwhelmed. and i was pleasantly surprised of course. >> mike. >> miss pratt, first of all, thank you very much for the gift of your son. who gave us all a gift the other
day with that incredible, emotional speech. but secondly, there are those of us who believe that the hardest job in america is being poor. and being poor and a single mom raising children, as you did, could you talk about the degree of difficulty involved in rai raising your children when you fear what might happen on a street corner on their way to school and taking care of those boys. talk about that a bit. >> well, we were -- we had very humble beginnings of course, but it was our life. and i decided that i was going to make the best of it. the way that i had to help my boys to stay away from the ills that were in our area is that i was always involved in their lives. i made it my business to sacrifice my personal desires and wants and sometimes my needs
for their goals and dreams. so i was always there. some considered me as a hovering mother, but i felt it would be best if i knew their friends, their friend's parents, if i knew the environment, what was the sea pleasant rec center, know the environment there. i made it a point to be in their lives. >> michael steele. >> wanda, thank you for the hug first off. i appreciated it all the way here in chicago. but you know, your story and your son's story is very familiar to many of us. and as your son was talking and listening to you now, it reminds me of my mother. this weekend is mother's day. just contextualize for moms out there that balancing act of raising your kids and providing for the family but then looking at a moment like that, that shot of you in that moment where you
teared up, what was in your hea heart? was it like a job well done or there's more to do? how do you push yourself even after you've achieved the success and seen the success for your son, do you still push more or do you sit back now? >> well, i -- i'm learning how to sit back. that part is really difficult for me. as mothers of young men knows, but my sons, they are helping me to do that. there are times when they come to me and they'll tell me that they need to talk with me, so i try to wait for that opportunity, but it's a learning process for me. but i'm trying. >> you know, wanda, when kevin said you kept us off the street, put clothes on our back, food on the table, when made sure we ate, you went to bed hungry,
kevin gave us all an extraordinary mother's day present and you have today as well. thank you so much for being with us. >> wanda pratt, thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. happy mother's day. >> i want another hug. >> don't be greedy. >> yes! >> there's always another hug from mom. >> thank you so much, wanda and thank you for your extraordinary example. coming up next, what if anything did we learn today? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. whether you're just starting your 401(k) or you are ready for retirement, we'll help you get there.
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chaplain for? talk to the counselors. >> thanks to everyone who responded. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> bye. good morning. it's tuesday, may 13. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. the white house told him to lie. that's the claim in timothy geithner's new memoir but now the former treasury secretary doesn't believe his own book. we're going to dissect the web of lies straight ahead. >> and he was the iconic voice of the america's top 40, but this morning. casey kasem isç nowhere to be found. the frantic search for the ailing radio star intensifies on this tuesday. where is casey? >> and no love in this elevator. beyonce's sister kicking and throw hay makers at rapper jay-z.
what caused her to flip out on the hip-hop mogul. i don't know, but i'd like to. mornings are better with friends. watch this. >> hi. this is brookland decker and you are watching "fox & friends." >> she went on from that voiceover to marry andy roddick and lived happily ever after. >> i wonder if theç connection from toba the audio guy who picks those is the video of beyonce's sister trying it deck her. deck him. >> we've got to find out what happens. there is an explosive story caught on tape shows you there's cameras absolutely everywhere. >> we're on camera right now. good morning. >> let's talk about timothy geithner's book, the latest former obama acolyte says i'm out, don't call me anymore because i'm writing a book.
>> he recalls that the white house wanted him to lie, mislead the public before he went on the that sound familiar? to discuss actually social security. so look at this. he's talking about dan pfeiffer's urging him to present the issue that it wasn't the reason for the deficit. he says, quote, i remember during one roosevelt room press session before i appeared on the sunday shows, i objected when dan pfeiffer wanted me to say social security didn't contribute to the deficit. it wasn't a main driver of our future deficits but it did contribute. pfeiffer says the law was a dog whistle to the left, a phrase i never heard before. he had to explain that phrase was code for the democratic base signaling that we intended to protect social security. >> oh man, this is big. a member of the administration admitting in their memoir that comes out today thatç the white house told them to go out and lie. as soon as this headline hit the fan, a close source to timothy geithner says timothy does not believe he
was encouraged to go out and mislead the public. really? so you're not supposed to believe the things that he wrote in his book. >> and quoted. >> look, he wrote the book. he remembered it so well, he threw in the stuff about the dog whip. >> anyone who has written the book understands there are many rounds of edits. you look at that a few times before it hits the press. >> weç watched timothy geithner through the most harrowing times in modern economic history trying to explain himself, his moves and some of the things he had nothing to do with and some of his exact policies. you have to wonder, he's one guy you could always look at and i think to myself someone has him scared to death, even when we were over the crisis, he gives that demeanor of someone who is scary. >> he's not a politician. >> right but he always looked like something terrible is about to happen. when it was said i need you
to show emotion, he was not comfortable. here is what he quoted in his book. she handed me the text and i skimmed the outrage i was expected to express. i'm not very convincing as an angry populist. i'm not doingç this i said. instead i sat uncomfortably next to the president while he expressed outrage. what was he talking about? expressing outrage that a lot of officers were getting bonuses in a time of crisis. >> he said america was furious about the overpaid bankers. stephanie cutter wanted us to show we were on the backside of the backlash but they had no legal authority to confiscate the bonuses paid during the boom. knowing the truth, yet pausing and saying i can't deliver this sort of upset. do you it, buddy. >> let us review what weç have learned today. tim geithner has written a book. what he has revealed is the white house told him to tell a lie when he went out
on the sunday morning chat shows. that sounds exactly what we learned about two and a half weeks ago that susan rice was told to go out there and spread that lie. the administration knew it wasn't a there and say it was a video even though we knew it was an act of terror. charles krauthammer, a doctor, says this administration has a problem. they lie too much. >> this white house has an arm's length relationship with the truth. you could argue that all administrations do. but here you get the idea that it's less than arm's length. it is actually a clearly manipulative relationship¿ with the truth that it is to be used or abused or inverted in order to, quote, send a message, to send a dog signal. everybody knows that social security is in deficit. the treasury makes it up. and, therefore, it contributes to the deficit. geithner knows that, and, therefore, he wasn't prepared to say an outright
lie, an obvious arithmetic lie. >> timothy geithner comes out and writes his book and now before the book is out 24 hours he is denying what's in it. we haven't gotten to theç point where glenn hubbard, a key romney economic advisor, told him he planned on raising taxes once he got into offices. he said of course i'm going to raise taxes. glenn hubbard came back and says i never said that. again, these are quotes. he didn't say i talked to him and then -- he gave us a paraphrase. he's quoting himself exactly. >> americans deserve the truth. and ultimately we were promised transparency from the president. this is 2008. >> i have a track record of transparency. i'll make our government open and transparent. we'll do it in a transparent way. i want transparency. i want accountability. so that the american people can be involved in their own government. let me say it as simply as i can.
transparency and the rule of law will be theç touchstones of this presidency. this is the most transparent administration in history. >> really? >> that's great to hear him say. unfortunately the facts don't seem to support that, mr. president. let's just take a look at a number of this administration's officials who have misled the public. we start with, of course, susan rice. she appeared on those sunday shows where she said that it was a video even though the administration knew that it was terrorism. hillary clinton as secretary of state referenced the video as the cause behind the benghazi attack. and we know that she spoke to the president at 10:00 that night. >> james clapper claimed there was noç program to collect information on american citizens; again something that we found out differently there. then the attorney general right here, we have this surveillance, the claim by the republicans. he said he knew nothing about it. the potential prosecution of the press. he didn't know. eric holder. >> then of course we have the president of the united states saying if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
then later said i probably shouldn't have said that. it's hard to know what's going on. instead of a dog whistle just say things. say i want to tell the democratic base we are not going to touch social security. you don't need a dog whistle. just say that is what we're going to do. experts say of all the entitlements social security is the easiest to fix. we don't fix anything. we don't take care of entitlements and we certainly don't take care of social security. >> perhaps theyç have a different definition of transparency. >> you look at all this stuff, i think to this administration the truth is not important. getting reelected was. however, going forward, if i was like bob schieffer or chris wallace and ran a sunday morning talk show, i think i would want to have a lie detector on everybody who sat on the show from this administration. >> you should be personally offended if someone lies to you? >> as americans, we expect the truth from our government; right? shocking. >> if someone told you they remember told to lie and denies they wrote in the
book, i don't know where to start with that. that's why i'm turning over to heatherç nauert. >> she tells the truth. >> good morning, guys. serious news out of west virginia. it happened overnight. we start with a fox news alert. right now rescue teams are searching for two trapped miners after an underground coal mine collapses in west virginia. it is not clear what caused that collapse but we know the last safety review in twitter of -- in 2013 of the boone county mines had reports concerning the miners safety and health. families are at the mine at this hour awaiting more information. another fox news alert. brand-new evidence of another scandal at yet another v.a. hospital. this time in durham, north carolina. two workers there were just placed on leave for improperly manipulatinh the scheduling data. that's what they're calling it right now. this comes amid troubling allegations that a v.a. hospital in phoenix where 40 veterans died while they
remember waiting for similar treatments. another incident was reported last week in wyoming. >> this is not a game. this is life and death. this is dead real. and this is what we make a commitment to the people that defend us every day. >> there have been a lot of calls to the veterans administration secretary eric shinseki to step down but the white house continuing to stand by him. >> caught on camera, aç massive explosion blows the front off a house in new hampshire. this blast coming moments after a police officer was shot and killed while he responded to a domestic disturbance call at that house yesterday. police believe that the suspected gunman, 47-year-old michael nolan, may have been killed in that blast. nolan lived in that duplex with his father who was 86 years old. it is not known if he was home at that time. one other person was taken to the hospital with injuries. a bizarre story out of california. the radio legend casey
kasem is missing say his children. a judge is ordering an investigation into his disappearance and now appointing the 82-year-old daughter as his temporaryö conservator. >> my dad was snapped out of the facility. >> this is a part of a long running court battle between his children and their step mother. they're fighting over access to their father who suffers from advanced parkinson's and can apparently no longer speak. it is believed he might be at an indian reservation in washington state. those are your headlines. you read the tabloids, that is a story you read about a lot, the family problems there. >> that was heather nauert. let me tell you what's coming up straight ahead withç us. a mom taking care of her disabled son being forced to unionize, but she's fighting back. up next, the supreme court
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about government employee union, joins us to weigh in on this. good morning to you. >> good morning. this is a troubling case because it is about two moms who were forced -- these are mothers not in unions but their children had disabilities and to take care of them and get federal money these mothers had to unionize. they said that is a load of crap and they sued the government. >> one of the moms i met, susie watts, she takes care of her daughter who is a quadriplegic. she's had over $5,000 automatically taken out of her medicaid payments by the unions. automatically taken out, and she's been told if she wants to get medicaid payments to help take care of her quadriplegic daughter, she has to pay the seiu, the old union that president obamaç was an organizer for. >> sure. why is this one of the biggest labor decisions in a long time? >> if the supreme court rules for the workers and tells the workers that they
don't have to pay a union to keep getting government payments, all of a sudden the unions are going to have to work to get people to join them. they're not going to be able to take the money out ought mat khreufplt >> one of the -- automatically. one of the things about this particular case where these home health care employees, essentially the mom, is an employee of the government, even though she child, is that it's not the union that dictates exactly how things happen. it's the disabled person. so that makes it different than the regular union situation. >> what they've done is they've come up with this fictional kind of company which pays the person, and it's a government company. and this is how they're able to unionize all these home health care workers. what the unions want to do, what the shadow bosses really want to do is they want to be able to unionize the 21 million health care workers that you're going
to have under obamacare, and that will be billions of dollars to the unions, a private organization. >> sure. the way you've depicted it, it sounds like it was a dumb rule to start with, but it isúhhnging in the balance by one vote and extraordinarily the one vote is a conservative who normally you would think would not be for this. >> it appears. we don't know what goes on inside the supreme court, but justice scalia appears to be torn on this one because the fact is that he believes strongly in states rights and he wants to give the states the rights to make these decisions as opposed to have a broad decision. in this case a conservative justice may be the union's best friend. >> let's see what they do over there on capitol hill at the u.s. supremeç court. mallory factor, always a pleasure to be with you. thank you, sir. thanks for coming up from charles top. 18 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, the devil tried making it to harvard but
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welcome back. time for quick headlines for you. the sudden death of a north carolina democratic candidate rocking the community there. keith crisco, a congressional candidate died after a fall inside his home. the 71-year-old had been locked up in a too close to call primary battle with former american idol star clay aiken. this is the biggest discovery since 1492. one exploreer he found christopher columbus's long lost ship the santa maria. the ship wrecked more than 500 years ago off the coast of haiti. brian was just talking about that. you're a prophet. >> meanwhile, leading a team to success on and off the football field is about more thanç x's and o's. >> you're down 20-0. you come back from that, now you're talking about something. >> 1:03 to go. >> you think football builds character. it does not.
>> he's going to throw it. he holds it. >> football reveals character. >> joining us is the man behind that oscar winning documentary "undefeated" author of the book called"against the grain: a coach's wisdom on character, faith, family and love," bill courtney. how have you taken what you've done on the footbpl field to a different school and how did it help you build your business? >> the 30,000 foot view is this. we can be inclusive and forward-thinking and open minded without abandoning the core principles that got us here in the first place, and those core principles that built that football team are the same principles that built my family and built my business. >> and you've had success all around. let's break it down as best we can and people get the book and find out more. what do you think of hard work? >> i think we have developed this entitlement mentality in a lot of different places and not just in the entitlement
among those disadvantaged among us, but there's an entitlement among the wealthy, an entitlement among the affluent. this entitlement that these kids learn strips them ofç the dignity they get from a hard day's labor. >> if you don't have money, it's somebody's fault. if you have a lot of money, i don't need to do that? >> i think they're equally disturbing because of the lesson it teaches our kids and because it takes away the dignity you get from looking in the mirror at the end of the day and saying i earned that. we've got to get back to teaching the importance of that dignity in our lives. >> take pride in what you do. search for civility. it's easy to have civility when you're up 20-0 or about to win a championship. when you'reç down, how does that confer? >> how we treat those we opposed says more about us than even our own opinions do. we have to search for a civil attitude so that we can find commonality and
come together. frankly, business, sports, society, family but that may be the best for the folks in d.c. >> you also -- that's absolutely true, the nation's capital. you say grace appears in a forgiving heart. what do you mean by that? >> i mean that so much of what keeps us back can be our own anger, our own desire to get back at someone that wronged us. there's difference in a pardon and forgiveness. everybody has to answer for what they've done. but forgiveness is bestç for the forgiveer because you're allowed to get rid of all that angry feeling you have toward another person. we have to get back to being civil and being forgiving so we can move on and find commonality. >> because if you hold that grudge, you're wasting your time. you're wasting your energy. >> it's hurting you worse than the person you're not forgiving. >> we just scratched the
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welcome back. it's your shot of the morning. haagen-dazs is setting up shop on our plaza in honor of free cone day. >> my favorite day of the year. >> and of course with an inside scoop, maria molina. >> good morning, steve, elisabeth and brian. happy tuesday here. it is free cone today. joining me this morning is rob shell, you are director of franchise for haagen-dazs. thanks so much for joining us this morning. why is today free cone day? >> we do free cone day as kind of a give back to our customers. we do it every year on the second tuesday in may.
>> you are debuting two new flavors? >> two new gelato flavors at haagen-dazs shops. theç carmelized banana chip and tiaramasu. >> i can give a preview of what it tastes like. this is tiaramusu. very, very good. the other flavor? >> carmelized banana chip. >> this is what it looks like, everybody. very good. what times can people go to the stores? >> today from 4:00 p.m.ç to 8:00 p.m. at over 170 participating stories in 27 different states. >> lastly, 200,000 cones were given away and you're trying to break that record. >> this year we're
determined to break it. come on by any haagen-dazs shop. find your nearest location at our hag again dozen facebook page. search under the locator or haagen-dazs.com. >> let's look at the weather conditions across the country because if you live across the southeastern united states you will want to get a scoop of ice cream. we do have very warm temperatures ahead of a cold front. right now it is producing areas of rain anywhere from texas up into the state of illinois. there even is a flooding concern especially acroác parts of texas where many areas could be seeing over six inches of rain. we have a number of flood watches in effect across parts of the southern plains. tomorrow severe weather possible from mississippi up into parts of ohio. large hail, damaging winds and tornadoes possible. take a look at the highs today. we mentioned it is going to be warm across the southeast united states. in raleigh, north carolina, your high today 93 degrees. it is going to be a toasty
one. get some ice cream. behind that front on the cool side. >> maria on the streets. maria, we'll take threeç tiramasu to go. >> if i leave you any. >> from the scoops out on the streets of new york city to the scoop of the news. >> good morning. we're talking about the phers -- mers virus. hundreds of people in the united states could be at risk after a second case of the deadly mers virus is discovered here. a man in florida is being treated for the deadly illness. this case and one coming out of indiana are believed to be connected to saudi arabia. doctors say neither case is severe but they are warning an estimated 500 people who were on flights with two of those patients to be on the lookout for them.ç murderers, sex
offenders set free while waiting to be deported. the center for immigration studies looked at this and say the convicts were released last year and it slams the obama administration for freeing thousands of convicted criminals, some who were waiting the outcome of their cases. the immigration group says more than 36,000 convicted criminal aliens were turned loose in 2013. yesterday we told but this story and here's an update for you. good wins over evil on the campus of harvard university. a student group planned satanic mass was canceled followingç outrage from religious and educational leaders. members from the cultural studies club claimed they wanted to move the mass but couldn't find a new location. christian students say they're glad it was called off and still can't believe the college would allow this in the first place. listen. >> i'm just ashamed that in an environment that's otherwise committed to intellectual freedom but also to civility would be
allowing such a hateful event to happen. >> the group claims that the mass was a historic reenactment and that it was meant to be educational. okay. beyonce and jay z all smiles sitting court side tenets game last night -- at the nets game last night hours after video wasç released showing solange attacking jay z in an he elevator. you can see her as she punches and kicks jay z as a bodyguard tries to hold her back from him. at the end of the clip beyonce pulls her away. this went on for three and a half minutes. the celebrities haven't spoken out yet but the standard hotel where this happened blasted the person who released this video saying they're shocked and disappointed. it is a clear breach of our security system. there were a lot of fists flying in that elevator. somebody very upset about something. >> stuart, can you tell us what happened with thatç
video? >> no, i cannot. >> fine. thanks for coming by. >> let's talk about this. there is another nightmare at the i.r.s. a new report shows the aiming is i spent nearly $100 million on office furniture over the last five years. >> the i.r.s. is asking for even more of your money for its budget next year. stuart varney, what do you think about that and how is that possible they can be asking for more money by throwing it out on furniture. >> $100 million for office furniture since 2010 does sound a little obsessive. >> everybody's already got chairs. >> maybe taxpayers are a little hard on the furniture when they go to the eurps -- i.r.s. office but it is more thanç was spent on furniture during the entire eight years of the bush administration. this is another black eye for the i.r.s. this is an agency which gave $2.8 million in bonuses to people who have not paid their own taxes. this is the agency where
lois lerner is in contempt of congress. this is an agency that wants another $1 billion to police obamacare. this is the agency which brought in an extra $132 billion, the latest seven months of this year, $1.2 become is what they want extra. >> theç lack of funding has made it difficult to provide the service taxpayers deserve, a quote. >> government is not efficient. government does not work efficiently. bureaucrats create bureaucracies which work very inefficiently and spend money. they have a voracious appetite for money and spend it on things like $100 million for office furniture. >> jack lew said they need $100 million to crack down on conservatives. he didn't say that. i'm adding.
right now the federal government hats seen so much money come in, they've got more money than they know what to do with. actually they'll spend it. nobody is talking about that. >> in the lastç seven months the i.r.s. brought in an extra $132 billion compared to last year. the taxpayer clearly doing their part to get that deficit down. the i.r.s. spending it on stuff like $100 million worth of furniture. there is a link between the two. >> that is not responsible. certainly why in that harvard poll you saw young people saying they lost faith in government agencies. stuart varney we will be watching you at 11 a.m. probably more on this? >> i shall check on that. >> thanks for being with us. >> still ahead a texas gun dealer under fire for this sign, but he's got a messagehfor his critics and that's coming up next. >> our military considering the first chaplain who doesn't believe in religion or god. do we really need someone to represent atheists? judge napolitano surely is
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likes his voters undocumented. he then said it was a joke. he put the sign up supporting the texas gun policy that does not require firearm registration. elisabeth, over to you. >> an atheist group is demanding an atheist chaplain in the military. they claim as more atheists ep list they -- enlist they need somewhere to go for support. is the d.o.d. being politically correct? fox news judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano on that. this isn't the first time this has come down. i think it'qç 3.6% of those in the military identify themselves as being atheist. how will this play out? >> i'm not surprised that people are asking for this, but it is surprising that the mr. dodd: is -- that the
department of defense is considering this. they have more things to do than to figure out how to provide a chaplain for an atheist. a chaplain is provided for major and minor religions for people who believe in god and who need religious services because their heart and morality tells them so or the religion to which they belong requires it. atheism isç not a religion. it doesn't fit within any of the definitions for federal statutes or for circumstances under which the federal government has to provide this. this is political correctness gone crazy. >> this is about the 14th amendment then. how does that play in? >> the atheist group argued a clause in the amendment called the equal protection clause which says the government has to treat similar people in a similar way somehow forces the defense department to provide chaplains for atheists. the 14th amendment regulates states, not the federal government.
and the part of the constitution that talks about rights the federal government has to recognize has exceptions in there for the military. understanding, as the framers did, that when you join the military, youç give up certain rights. >> we've seen those reins loosened. is this a trend? >> we've seen the reins loosened. there are circumstances under which you can have beards. there are circumstances under which you can have long hair. there are circumstances under which you can have tattoos. but the concept of a chaplain for an atheist, if someone needs counsels, it's there. if someone needs a support group, it's there. i don't know what this chaplain would preach since atheists don't believe in god. >> is this an attempt to remove a chaplain of a religious group that is larger? >> i think it isç an attempt to make the military seem more soft and cushy. i think in ten years we'll be laughing at this.
>> right now it is just under 4% of those that identify as such. if that grows indeed, will they be forced in a way to have a chaplain? >> no. the congress would have to change the laws in order for the atheists in the military to force the military to provide them with chaplains. >> this meeting today is not going to put forth -- >> this meeting today is really an effort by the brass of the military, the civilian brass of the military, secretary hagel and his people, to keep the lid on complaints. i don't think theç complaints are loud and i don't think they're going to come long and i don't even think they're serious but i think he wants to nip them in the bud by talking to these people. it doesn't hurt to talk but it would be absurd to have the federal government spend money to have people preach about atheism. >> interesting perspective. coming up, meet the mayor, brian says.
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forget everything you heard about fatty foods. can butter, cheese and heavy meats actually be good for you? our next guest says yes and that's why she's here. >> that's right. she spent near low decades studying the positive effects of
fatty foods and details it in "the big fat surprise." she joins us now with such great news. so please explain, this is great. we have some comparisons here. why is that good for you? we keep hearing it's not. >> we've been living for 50 years with the low fat diet and the problem is that when you reduce fat, you increase carbohydrates. we eat 25% more than we did in the early 1970s. your body needs fat to be healthy. and the main thing we've been told is that saturated fats are bad for you, that saturated fats and meat and butter and cheese are bad for you. but that all goes back to one scientist in the 1950s who thought fats caused heart disease -- >> one scientist? >> it was one scientist. in the face of the nation's fear of heart disease, he came up with the idea that it was saturated fats that caused heart disease. he got that idea implanted into
the american heart association and the rest is history. >> let's fast forward to today. as people think about what they should eat, should they have the bagel or bacon and eggs? according to the conventional wisdom, you don't want all the cholesterol and fat in the eggs and bacon. >> right. so this idea became so ingrained that we just feel like it's common sense. how could that possibly be good for you? and the reality is that that contains saturated fat, yes. but the evidence against saturated fat has really dissipated, disappeared, and it is no longer -- >> so we choose the egg? >> you choose the egg. >> and the bacon? >> over the bagel? >> over the bagel, which is empty carbohydrates. >> brian will kick the bagel out. >> here you go. >> you can give it away. >> what about at lunchtime? if you had the choice between a green salad or egg salad, conventional wisdom says go with the green salad. >> but you should go with the egg salad even though it's high in cholesterol, the cholesterol in egg does not translate into cholesterol in your blood.
that has been known since the 1970s. >> so it's good for you without the bad effects that everybody thinks it has? >> it's good for you. eggs also contain a loft nutrients -- lot of nutrients. so eggs are really nutrient dense and really good food. >> a lot of people eat the egg white. >> all the nutrients are in the yoke. they're missing it. >> the questions are getting hard. carrots, pita versus heavy meats and cheese. >> this is the most counter enduretive. everyone would choose hummus. bread is high in carbs and carrots and pita. carbohydrates in your blood become glucose, which triggers insulin, which is the king of all hormones in storing fat. zero in that up with. will and also a lot of nutrients. >> right.
down here at this end we've got butter and steak and sausage spatties versus the low fat yogurt. you say steak wins by a mile. steak and butter. >> steak is really rich in nutrients. it has good fats, the same is true of butter. what happens with low fat products is when you take the fat out, you have to put something in to replace all the texture -- >> they put sugar in. >> they're putting carbohydratessed based, almost always sugars. a serving of this is like having a snicker's bar worth of sugar. >> wow. >> is there a limit to the amount of fats? i'm thinking what are the guideline when is having this type of fatty food? >> leave the butter. take the yogurt. >> is there a limit in a day? could you have all of this? >> you could have all of this in a day. the best, most rigorous scientific trials over the last decade show that a higher fat diet is healthier than a low fat diet in terms of your diabetes, heart disease, and obesity, hands down.
definitively that's been shown. >> should you be worried about cholesterol if you're not doing the low fat and suddenly you're eat ago lot of cholesterol? >> again, the cholesterol in food does not translate into cholesterol in your bloodstream. >> i like that. >> good news for everybody out there. >> so fatten up, america. we showed you how. >> we're getting a bunch of thank you tweets and e-mails. >> that's the good news. it's just that you don't have to feel guilty about eating those foods. >> thank you very much. real pleasure. >> thank you. >> coming up straight ahead. >> another day and another veteran affairs hospital called out for delaying health care to our nation's heros. where is the president on this one? didn't he promise to fix that problem? >> then just call this a royal hoax. >> who is this guy? >> we had a bunch of different dairies. >> one was an actor. one was an athlete and the other one was prince harry.
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athlete. and the obvious one was that he's prince harry. >> it's a new dating show and that guy looks like prince harry. but it's not him. these single ladies are in for a royal surprise. oh, boy. that's going to be great because tuesday mornings, always better with friends. >> this is darius runninger and you're watching "fox & friends." >> elisabeth, when you were playing football, darius rucker co-hosted the show. you remember that? >> i do remember. >> he wanted us to join the blowfish and go on the road with him and i said no, we're going to stay here. it was a good move for us to stick around. >> i think so. he also was a welcome voice on my first day. i love that. >> he welcomed you to the show. >> yes. >> listen, today as we welcome you to the 7:00 o'clock eastern time hour of the "fox & friends" program, we got troubling news to tell you. it sounds like the white house, every chance they get, if they
need to, they lie to us. that guy right there, former secretary of the treasurer, tim geithner. says in a new memoir that comes out today that he essentially was told by the white house to go out there on tv on the sunday chat shows -- sounds familiar -- and lie. here is a quote, it says i remember one prep session before i appeared on the sunday shows. i objected when dan pheiffer, communications director, wanted me to say social security didn't contribute to the deficit. it wasn't a main driver of our future deficits. but it did contribute. pheiffer said the line was a dog whistle to the left. phrase i had never heard before. he had to explain what the phrase was. it was code to the democratic base signaling that we intended to protect social security. so there you got dan pheiffer saying okay, tim, go out there and lie on tv. >> right. a source close to geithner actually said he doesn't believe that he was encouraged to go out and mislead the public, even though he's writing about it in this book on multiple occasions.
going to 2009 that he indicates that stephanie cutter, a democratic strategist and in charge of communications messaging, he tells a story there of how she handed me the text and i skimmed the outrage i was supposed to express. i'm not very convincing as an angry populous and i thought it would look ridiculous. i'm not doing this, i said, and i sat uncomfortably next to the president while he expressed the outrage. there he's referring to americans being furious over the fact that bailouts were -- >> that was the president doing the fake outrage. >> the president said how outraged he was when ce oh,s were getting bonuses after the bailout. everybody is -- it's unbelievable, he wrote the book and is walking back the quotes in the book that one time he
accused mitt romney of saying we're going to raise taxes if elected and he said i never said that. the book has been out a day and everything that's interesting in it, he denies is in it, even though he wrote it. how unbelievable is that? steven hayes weighed in. >> every administration from every political party engages in spin, but the entire point of spin to a certain extent is to avoid saying something that is outright false. but we've seen the administration say this, whether it's you can keep your plan, when the white house had studies show people wouldn't be able to keep your plan, whether it was the benghazi talking points saying the white house didn't have any substantive rule, or the obama administration political team didn't have any sub santel role. we know those things were not true and if geithner is right in the way he recall this is in his book, this would be add to do that list. >> absolutely. when tim geithner writes, i believe that he remembers it that way, the fact that a source close to geithner now is
spinning it and they're trying to parce the words, it reminds me of, well, that depends on what your definition of is is. i'm surprised that jay carney yesterday, came out and said we didn't tell him to lie. i'm surprised he didn't say dude, that's so six years ago. >> you remember everything because there is quotes around it. >> what difference does it make anyway? this is not the first book that's come out indicating there is a lack of transparency in this administration. bob gates' book indicated the same thing with i believe wording when it came to an opaque administration, their control over messaging. >> he said -- in all the administrations he worked in, prior to nixon, he says it's the most controlled centralized messaging that he's -- administration he's ever been a part of. >> the editor of the "new york times" says the same thing. so when we see the geithner information on top of the ben rhodes e-mail that they tried to get susan rice and she willingly
went along and lied on sunday chat shows, it's disappointing. meanwhile, are they lying about what's going on at the v.a.? there is more trouble at the v.a., disarray at the v.a. two employees in durham, north carolina, have been placed on administrative leave because apparently they, too, falsified records between the years of 2009 and 2012. they're now audited. >> phantom appointments that didn't exist, possibly for the same thing, to get incentives, to act as if they're efficient when they're not and the actual veterans are paying the price by not getting care. >> and trying to look good at the front office here, they're making them wait months and months, possibly leading to the deaths of many. anything over 14 days is required to be put in writing. we're seeing all these falsified records there. when you see jay carney, though, really indicating that the president still has such confidence in general shinseki, who is at the head of the ship
here, it makes everyone sort of raise a brow. >> the president remains confident that secretary shinseki is focused on this matter and he's confident in secretary shinseki's ability to lead the department and take appropriate action based on the findings. >> okay. so we're going to have to wait 'til the i.g. comes out. it's a mess right now. we know that. they had two sets of books and it was just to make them all look good. i was looking in the arizona republic newspaper this morning. there is an item that says that in phoenix, i want to say he's 87 years old. 87-year-old vet who is alive to this day, he was waiting for the v.a. to call him back for his hospital appointment, so he called 911. the only reason he's alive is because the locals came and picked him up. the republican congressman from the great state of illinois, he's in the national guard. he was an iraq war vet. he is horrified by the way that the v.a. is treating our american heros.
>> this is not a game. this is life and death. this is dead real and this is what we make a commitment to the people that defend us every day. look, not only do people need to be suspended, not only do they need to be fired, we need to talk about who needs to end up in jail over this. >> that's real outrage there. that should be coming from the white house, should be coming from jay carney when our veteran s who risk their lives come back, only to die in some secret waiting list. no faux rage from convincinger there. we hope to see real solutions moving forward. >> we need whistle blowers to come forward and talk about what's really going on or else everyone seems to be covering their butts and hope their name doesn't get called. meanwhile, heather nauert, tell us what else is happening. >> good morning. big news out of west virginia. a lot of folks want to hear about it. fox news alert, right now there are rescue teams searching for at least two trapped miners after an underground coal mine
collapses in boon county, west virginia. at this hour, families gathered at the gate of the mining complex as they await information on the miners who work at the brody mine. it's not clear what caused the collapse just yet. the last safety review which took place in 2013 discovered about 250 violations concerning miners' health and safety. this happening overnight about 10:30 p.m. eastern time. we'll keep you posted as we get new information in this morning. in the meantime, a rutgers university quarterback arrested and now facing up to 20 years in jail in connection to a brutal bar fight in minnesota. philip nelson has been charged with first degree assault for beaing a 20 yearly in critical condition. surveillance video shows kolstad hitting the quarterback in the back on certified. no word on -- saturday night. no word on what prommed that. his voice heard on the air for decades. >> thank you and hello again,
everybody. welcome to america's top ten. >> this morning, casey kasem's children say he's missing. a judge ordering an investigation into the radio legend's disappearance. he also appointed the 82-year-old's daughter as his temporary conservator. >> jean kasem moved my father to hide him from his family and friends. >> she referred to jean. that is the stepmother. there is a long-running court battle between his children and their stepmom. they're now fighting for access to their father who suffers from advanced parkinson's disease and can no longer speak. the children believe he may be at an indian reservation in washington state. this story is for us. you ever get tired of all the rants and tweets on twitter? there is a new feature that may fix that problem. there is a nitwitter mute button and allows users to silence their friends and others without unfollowing them. the people you know won't know
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citizenship shoney becoming a battle ground over religious freedom. >> the democratic mayor of new jersey pulling the plug on the federal naturalization function when the government told the city they couldn't allow an opening prayer at the event, even though it's been a town tradition since it was founded. >> that's right. the mayor joining us this morning. so this is actually a strong stand that you took here when you were asked six months ago. what happened? >> about six months ago, the federal government, immigration
naturalization services asked if we would host a swearing in ceremony and we were thrilled. this is a densely populated community, but a melting pot. we have a lot of new immigrants, always have. we thought it would be a nice opportunity to really host this swearing in and highlight the diversity in the town. >> sure. and things were going along great until? >> things were going fantastic. we had exchanged the agenda and the program. all of a sudden this past tuesday, we get a call and e-mail from immigration. they said you have to remove prayer and the moment of silence from the agenda. they said it cannot be part of any federal program. >> did you think we were joking? >> yeah, there was some communication back and forth. i said this doesn't make sense, especially in light of the recent supreme court ruling. we shot back, no, it's going to be part of it. they said it cannot be on the agenda and part of the program. i said take your ceremony somewhere else. >> and they did? >> and they did. carteret is a very diverse community. lots of brick and mortar
religions. we've always respected one another and respected everyone's faith. >> and in the town square, you got a christmas tree. >> we do. >> there is a public menorah. >> we do a menorah lighting in front of city hall and a christmas tree lighting at our main park. >> you open ceremonies with a prayer. >> we certainly do. from our veterans day services, memorial day services, any public event, even our council meetings open up with a moment of silent prayer. >> so this is important to you. it's important to carteret. why? >> it's certainly important to our community because it's faith based community. it's infringement upon our first amendment rights to have a prayer. >> did you have any interaction with the immigrants, new immigrants? >> we did not. i'm told from the feds there would have been a few from carteret. >> what was the general reaction? >> the reaction from the feds was that they would simply move the meeting if we wouldn't allow it to be hosted. the residents overwhelmingly support the idea of letting them go somewhere else. this is a god fearing community. >> so they moved it to the
federal building in newark, 20 miles or so away. wasn't int. it's clear what they missed. they didn't start with the prayer as you would have liked. why do you think they do this? >> we raised that and they took the position that even in light of the supreme court decision, that it doesn't apply to federal agencies. they said they don't want to offend anybody. i don't understand. if you didn't want to participate in the prayer, you can sit there quietly or stand quietly. >> i don't get that. the house of representatives opens with a chaplain reading a prayer. >> ironically, the oath that they take to become a citizen acknowledges god and they recite the pledge of allegiance. >> what about critics who say you lost out on an opportunity here? what do you say? >> that's find. we're happy to have them go somewhere else. >> thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> good for you. 18 minutes after the hour. up next on this show, a marine back from afghanistan for two weeks to escort his little sister to the prom. the school says no way.
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next, zero. that's the number of years that will be added to your life by eating chocolate and drinking wine. researchers failed to find any evidence that there was an ingredient found in the skin of red grapes and in chocolate is linked to a longer life. and finally, $35 million. that's how much you're going to need to buy the house made famous by al pacino in the movie "scar face". 10,000 square foot mansion sits on ten acres in california. not in florida as was where scar face lived. you could call it a royal hoax. >> oh, my god. >> is that who i think it is? >> we're thinking, who is this guy? >> we had a bunch of theories. one was an actor. up with was an athlete. and the obvious one was that
he's prince harry. >> well, obviously it's fox use they reality show "i want to marry harry". the prince is just a look alike. how do we know? he's here and he looks like him. joining us right now. >> matt hicks. not harry. good morning to you. >> thanks for having me. >> how long have people told you, you know, you kind of look like prince harry? >> mainly the last five or six years. >> all right. >> not very long. >> that's how you got the job on fox? >> they found you, right? >> yeah. i had some pictures on a look alike web site and i've done a few tiny jobs. >> here. turn this way because here, look at that. >> i never seen him with a beard. >> doesn't seem like you need a makeover. you went through training to learn the personal behavior and also other things. >> not so much personal behavior, but i had to learn his military career, scandals, ex girlfriends, his schooling, his
hobbies. when i was dating these girls, i had something to talk about. >> he's had an interesting life to look up. >> yeah. >> he managed to live like a normal person and royalty. >> right. and the information was pretty public so you had to get it right. >> i think i might have slipped a few times. >> so the girls didn't know. were they told okay. it's prince harry? >> they were brought over and they were told it was anglin bachelor. >> we have the meeting where your face was revealed, but they never said, ladies and gentlemen, here is prince harry. >> they just said this. >> we'll have to save that for another time. >> we'll find out more later. >> hopefully if you stick around for a while. >> so in the beginning, you were wearing the mask and then you revealed your face. you never came out and said, i'm prince harry. the producers never said i'm prince harry. the girls kind of put it
together, right? >> yeah. they were left to come to their own assumptions. >> you never own up to it? >> i never confirm who i am. >> sure. >> at the end of this, what does the girl get? >> you? >> there you go. >> fake harry, every week another girl is knocked out of the cast, right? >> yes. >> at the end, it's you and this -- >> and the final lady. >> and then is there -- aside from you, is there cash? >> i believe there was a prize at the end for the lady. >> normally a relationship built on a stack of lies would would not be off on the right foot. hi, i'm choosing you, now let me tell you who i really am. >> yeah. and let's go from there. >> start with an i'm sorry. >> got to be really sorry. >> is there somebody in there for you that you saw already? is there potential? >> there is potential. there were some cool girls on the show. >> i want to watch.
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front off a home in new hampshire. look at that right there. that blast happening moments after a police officer was shot and killed after he responded to a domestic disturbance call at that house which is part of a duplex yesterday. police believe that the suspected gunman was 47-year-old michael nolan and they believe he was killed in that blast. nolan lived at home with his 86-year-old father who was taken to the hospital to be checked out. one other person was hurt. we'll keep you posted on any new developments as we get them. a fight over fouls in miami sent one guy to jail and another to the hospital. if began when 55-year-old quentin putnam was asked by a neighbor not to feed the ducks roaming around their neighborhood. the neighbor, david lawn, claims it's not the first time he's made this request after minutes of arguing, putnam started throwing punches. >> he's on top of me and he's pounding me with the heel of his
hand. my back, my neck, my head. >> putnam is now facing a felony event and ordered to stay away 50 feet from the other guy. he put his own life on the line to save his fellow soldiers during an ambush in afghanistan in 2007. just a few hours from now, u.s. army sergeant kyle white will be given the nation's highest military honor, the medal of honor. the 27-year-old was on "fox & friends" on sunday. take a listen to this. >> you don't think about what you're doing, especially in that moment with that much fire coming in. your adrenaline is pumping. all you know is you have a fallen comrade out there who needs your help. >> six american heros died that day. a marine is back from afghanistan for two weeks to escort his little sister to prom. but the school ends up turning him away? >> i would not be going inside the prom. i was just going to be escorting
my little sister on the senior walk and they said i could not do that because i was also not a student at the school. >> oh, come on. robert addison says there are no hard feelings for the high school, which he attended as well. school officials blame the incident on an unfortunate miscommunication. such a shame. those are your headlines. let's head over to maria for a check of the weather. >> good to see you. i want to take a look at a cold front that's moving eastward today across the country and it is bringing areas of rain, from texas up into parts of indiana and also illinois. with this system, we are going to be seeing some areas of heavy rain and the potential for flash flooding across western parts of the gulf of mexico, with some areas potentially seeing more than six inches of rainfall in a very short amount of time over the next several days, so that is a concern for flash flooding. the risk for severe storms also in place, from mississippi into southern parts of the state of ohio. if you live in cincinnati, nashville, hem fix heads up.
-- memphis, heads up. temperature wise, it's below average in terms of high temperatures. look at denver. your high today, just 51. in the 50s in rapid city, minneapolis. ahead of the system, very warm. making it into the 90s this afternoon in parts of north carolina. now let's head over to elisabeth. >> he is the world's first and most recognizable super hero. ♪ ♪ >> just a bit later today, superman hall of heros will be honoring the everyday heros in the name of superman. joining us now david burke, paraolympic gold medalist and matthew reeve who will accept it on behalf of his father, christopher reeve. we are so honored to have you here today. this has to mean so much to each
and every one of you. ten inductees at 11:00 o'clock, exceptional, just backgrounds that you have, strength and diligence. i want to start with you accepting on behalf of your father. surely the ultimate superman. what would it mean to him? what does it mean to you to be accepting on behalf of your dad today? >> he'd be particularly given the caliber of the other inductees. he'd be greatly honored. it's astonishing that 35 years later after that his performance still resonates with people. more so for the courage and bravery he showed after his accident. >> absolutely. decades deep the loyalty goes for their ultimate superman there and super hero. i would like to see centuries as we move forward, congratulations >> thank you. >> when i think about your accomplishments, unbelievable. summer and winter olympics you
medalled there for paraolympics. when you reach this moment today to be honored in this way, it has to almost mean as much as the gold. >> it's up there. i've had a loft pinch me moments in life. when i got the invitation for the superman hall of heros, it's that moment you just -- is this my life? and i'm in such good company. we had a little cocktail dinner last night and i got to meet the other inductees and so honored and privileged to be part of this. >> oh, my gosh. they are overjoyed to have you. david, your work in the kitchen is incredible. the cheffery, everyone enjoy what is you do. but what you do outside of the kitchen is pretty great. you've been helping communities for a long time and kids who are hungry. what you did after hurricane sandy in terms of getting help out there was wildly noted i think among the communities there. what does it mean to you? >> first of all, it's a great honor to be inducted into this
and especially the inaugural one. we got to meet each other last night, very inspirational. it's great to be recognized for doing something that helps other people. i'm fortunate, i cook and i have food and i have access to food and trucks and things like that. so to be able to help out in hurricane sandy, which is where i grew up, was a natural. i think helping i get a lot -- a joy out of being able to help as i do feeding someone in a fine dining restaurant. i think helping people that can't necessarily get food on their own table is a real pleasure for me. >> it certainly did help a lot of people. i love the idea that this is about inspiring others through what you do in your community and really working to help others. i know your foundation has worked to help those overcome adversity. you have overcome adversity. you've helped during times of adversity and people can nominate, correct, through father's day.
is that right? >> right. it's an on line gift giving portal where people can nominate someone who they admire for bravery, generosity, what have you, and say thank you to their own personal heros. they create a submission and it's a way to say thank you and appreciation. >> sure. thank you to all of you and the inductees today later on at 11:00 a.m., we'll get to see the real heros. don't forget to nominate yours. and our hearts are with your family always. love what you've done. >> thank you. coming up, same drug, same company. now a dying boy being denied the drug that could save his life. peter johnson, jr. here with the details on that latest fight. lurks no love in this elevator. what caused beyonce's sister to flip out on hip-hop mogul jay-z. no hero award there.
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while lashing out at the other driver. and the video everyone is talking about. beyonce's sister punching and kicking brother-in-law jay-z in an elevator as a body guard holds her back. the celebrities have not responded. the standard hotel in new york city blasted whoever leaked that video, saying, quote, shocked and disappointed that there was a clear breach of our security system. timoney geithner denied that quote. steve? >> all right. same drug, same company, now a different dying boy being denied the compassionate use that could save his life. fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr. has this story. >> i think all americans need to hear this this morning. 21 month old boy with leukemia at john hopkins center is the latest child begging for a life saving drug from the same company which refused to provide it in the past. you may remember the drug company from the case of josh hearty covered here on fox which repeatedly refused to provide
that dying boy with a drug and that's been shown to treat the virus which can be deadly. the company received $70 million in federal money to develop the drug. they finally relented and gave josh the drug under a new pilot program. josh is out of the hospital today and his mother says he's growing stronger every day. the company's stock rose after the controversy, and said a compassionate use company to help people who can benefit from the drug was too expensive. now they initially refused to provide again compassionate use or a spot in the national trial to baby judson of lockwood, new york, who is suffering from the virus and is currently on a ventilator at johns hopkins. tammy shepherd's grandmother spoke to me from the icu last night and told me the baby has been battling leukemia since he was six months old. he said he's touch and go.
this drug is his only hope and said a team of doctors and nurses were rushing to his bedside as we spoke. judson's family originally told he could not receive treatment at johns hopkins because it was not part of the trial. now after our calls to the company, they may be changing their mind. about an hour ago, i just received this statement from the company. there are currently ten clinical sites partnering in the trial across the u.s. all of which have agreed to accept pediatric and adult patients transferred to these locations. from our ongoing communications with this young patient's physicians and administrators at johns hopkins over the last several days, we believe he may be eligible to participate in the trial. we submitted an additional list of questions last night which the company has so far refused to answer. >> that's quite a story. so for folks watching, we had this other case, josh hardy, a while back and you helped him
get the drugs that saved his life through that company. >> same company and same drug. >> and the same circumstances. compassionate use. so now suddenly after you called, they go, oh, maybe we could -- it seems to me that there ought to be a better system other than the threat of dragging a company on to television to these people the drugs they need. >> i think that's why we're talk being it. this is an inherently unfair process. one at the drug company level. two at the f.d.a. people should not be having to call me at 8:00 o'clock at night to say, my grandson is dying and this drug company will not act. and they've done this same routine in the very, very past. there is an inherent instability, a confusion, a lack of reliability in terms of getting the drugs that we need. this one particular company, they decided, we don't want to spend money on a compassionate use program. and after days of discussion
here on fox and on social media, they said oh, we're going to set up a pilot program. but they would not let this boy and they still have not let this boy, judson, from lockwood, new york, 21 months old, dying of leukemia and this virus into this program. they say we may let him into this program after we called last night. people should not have to be put to those kind of steps to call up legal correspondents on television to get their children the medications that are available and should be available under compassionate use. >> it's crazy that they would -- this boy is adorable. >> he is. >> it's crazy that the company would say, we don't have the money for those programs. they have $70 million worth of federal dollars, right? >> they got $70 million. do they have a corporate obligation? no. do they have a moral obligation as an american company? yes. if you're interested in this issue, you can go to www.foxandfriends.com, the family asked we put up a petition asking the company to
provide the life saving drug for this little boy, judson. this is an incredible story. we're going to talk more about the f.d.a. and companies like this and how and why you should get the drugs that you and your family need. >> i'm glad you brought this to our attention. peter johnson, jr., america's lawyer. >> thank you. straight ahead, are you a recent college graduate or about to get your degree? good news, more than half the employers want to hire you. cheryl casone with the companies you need to apply to. she's already got a job, by the way. but first on this date in 1607, jamestown, virginia verge was settled as colony of england. in 1999, rickey martin had this song that we were all living to. "la vida loca." ♪ ♪ good job! still runnng in the morning? yeah.
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anyway. hey, class of 2014, we have good news for you. a career builder study found that 57% of employers plan to hire new college graduates this year. up 53% from last year. here with the details on those companies, cheryl casone. before you take your graduation robe off, let's pick up the phone and make a call to enterprise? >> i mentioned this company. they own enterprise and alamo and own national. they have a really good managementogram. you're probably thinking, i have a business degree. why do i want to work at enterprise? >> because this is a company that will train you, give you great skills, promote from within. you get paid while you learn management skills. it's actually a really good company. they're looking for interns, 1500. but 8500 college grads. that first trip out of college, a company like enterprise is a smart move. >> especially if their training programs are respected by other
companies. >> price water house? >> one of the big four. accounting. accounting companies are great for recent grads, especially if you have a tax degree, accounting degree, a degree in business or finance. really good company. pricewaterhouse. 4900 full-time jobs, 4100 interns for 2014. >> two of my friends had that job out of college, have never let go of it. it's a great company. at & t, i believe it's phone company. >> yes. you probably heard. second largest provider. telephone, mobile phones in the country. 1200 student grads they're looking to hire. technical jobs, business sales jobs, retail managers. if you have a technology degree, engineering degree, a business degree, computer science, data science, engineering, any of that, great stuff. we're talking about working for the company, development, things like that. >> if you graduate without a good gpa and they ask you, just change the subject. >> golden corral. >> 500 restaurants, 41 states.
they need managers. i have know what you're thinking. but if you have a hospitality degree, this is a great move for you. again, management experience. you can make 44 grand right out of the gate if you're right out of college. you got those student loans. you got to pay them off. don't live in the basement. they need managers. 500 jobs. >> get more grilled chicken and hurry up. accentuer. >> this is management consulting, technology. you're thinking, consultant, what can i consult when i'm right out of college? actually they like to train, promote from within. they need people to have technology degrees. they're looking for about 1,000 people now. this is all entry level, but it's a great company, especially if you have digital experience, text, things like that on your resume as well. these are all good companies today. >> even if i don't get out quick, you'll have morning anchor, there is an opening if i don't get out right away. thanks so much. i appreciate it. coming up, the white house
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good morning. it's tuesday, may 13. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. breaking at this hour, a mine collapse in west virginia turning deadly. we have the developing details on that straight ahead. then the white house told him to go out and lie on tv. that's a claim in timothy geithner's new memoir. now the former treasury secretary says he doesn't even believe his own book. great. laura ingraham is going to help us dissect the web of lies. >> that could hurt sales. he's got one of the most famous voices in america. >> thank you and hello again, everybody. welcome to america's top ten. >> this morning casey kasem is nowhere to be found. the latest in the search for the ailing radio star.
according to most reports, tuesdays and every day are better with friends. >> this is tommy lasorda. you are watching "fox & friends." >> wow. what a show. >> thanks, tommy. long time friend of the program. doing a little voiceover work for us. >> right. he gets paid well for that. handsomely. he insists on it. >> it's the dirty little secret. every time we have someone famous, we say before you go, would you mind saying it? and we have a million of those. >> you both are recognizing them off the bat than i am. >> the part where he said, i'm tommy lasorda -- >> that should have clued me right in. >> right. you will have to jerome bettis. >> no, i'm not. >> i just saw him in the green room and governor pence. laura ingraham in just a second. >> but not quiet.
you know what's crazy about jerome -- >> the last time we met, 'cause my husband gets to spend some time with him at work. we met at the super bowl with the steelers. >> oh, yeah. he was actually playing? >> yeah. at the time, i was a serious seahawk fan, so it didn't go well. >> because your brother-in-law was on the other team. >> two minutes after the top of the hour. heather nauert has breaking news. >> yeah. we've been following this story through the night and into the morning. we have an update. moments ago, i got off the phone with the state police and they have confirmed to fox news that two coal miners died after an underground mine collapse in boon county, west virginia. that's in western part of the state. this collapse happening about 10:30 p.m. last night. it's not clear what caused that collapse. the latest safety review in 2013 discovered 250 violations concerning miners' safety and
health. we can confirm two dead. we'll bring you the latest as we get it. his iconic voice heard on the air for decades and decades. >> thank you and hello again, everybody. welcome to america's top ten. >> but this morning, casey kasem's children say he's now missing. a judge now ordering an investigation into the radio legend's disappearance. he also appointed kasem's daughter as his temporary conservator. >> my dad was snatched out of the facility he was staying at. >> jean is their stepmother and this is the part of a long-running battle between his children and their stepmom. they're fighting over access to their father who suffers from advanced parkinson's disease and we're told can no longer speak. it's believed he might be at an indian reservation in washington state. we'll keep watching that story. hundreds of people could now be at risk after a second case of the deadly mers virus is discovered in the united states. a man visiting florida is now
being treated for the respiratory illness. this case and the first one which was identified recently in indiana are connected to saudi arabia. that's where the virus originated. doctors say neither case is considered severe, but they're warning an estimated 500 people who are on flights with these two patients to get checked out. and then there is an atheist group that's demanding an atheist chaplain in the military. the military association of atheists claims more atheists are enlisting in the military, so they need somewhere to go for support. now the department of defense is considering a change. is this political correctness gone too far? judge andrew napolitano weighed in earlier today. >> atheism is not a religion. it doesn't sit within any of the definitions of federal statutes of circumstances under which the federal government has to provide this. this is political correctness gone crazy. >> the military association of atheists, there is such a
group -- is meeting with the defense department to talk about appointing a president for that position. and those are your headlines. one story we're following is that west virginia mine collapse, we'll keep you posted as we learn more. >> thanks for doing the work on the phone. meanwhile, your e-mail and tweets have been pouring in. this is what you have to say about that atheist chaplain. timothy writes chaplains in the military are officers and required to possess a theology. what degree would an atheist chaplain be required to have? >> bill says any member of the military can meet with any chaplain at pretty much any time. the judge is right. this is more time wasting insanity. >> go back to your seat and don't say a hail mary. and wr jones tweet, what's next? a car dealer who sells bus tickets? thanks for all of your responses. we appreciate it.
laura ingraham joins us. you will not have to weigh in on the atheist story. >> unless you will to. >> guys, look, it doesn't surprise me at all. christians, faithful christians found themselves in the crosshairs in our military, in our culture. we saw what transpired last night at harvard. at the last minute, of course, power to the faithful, the thing was moved. the heretical was moved off campus. that's the last group that you can attack, demean, denigrate, discriminate against with impunity. i think christians and people of faith are starting to stand up and say no, you won't. we have rights, too. i'm glad about that. friends of mine were at the protest last night at harvard. they were sending me photos of the mass that took place in protest to venerate the host and communion. it was 2,000 people. so i think it has a boomerang effect. the faithful come out and say,
no, we will stand up for our religious rights. i think people across the country, whether you're jewish or christian or even muslim, you want to stand up for your religious rights, do so. we still have a country that's supposed to respect religious freedom and we need to all remember that and stand up for our rights. >> amen to that. >> so listen, laura ingraham, when you write your biography, make sure when you do your book tour you deny most of the quotes in it. that's the kind of stuff that treasury secretary is off to. listen to what he's quoted as saying in his own book. it is authorize the biography. he says, i remember during one prep session before i appeared on the sunday shows, i objected when dan pheiffer wanted me to say social security did not contribute to the deficit, it wasn't a main driver of our future deficit, but it did contribute. pheiffer said the line was a dog whistle to the left, a phrase i had never heard before. he had to explain to me what it hadn't, signaling that we intended to protect social security. >> a couple of things there, guys. number one, we now know that the
left considers its base a bunch of unruly canines, dog whistle blower. they look down at their base, number one. in these biographies, do you recognize a trend here? the author, or the subject of the biography always comes off in the best possible light. tim geithner, well, i objected to this and i thought this was bad. well, if this was actually going on in the white house, i don't deny it was, i think it probably was given what else they said about obamacare and the recovery and so forth. but didn't tim geithner as a public servant have a duty to actually resign at that point or go to the american people and say, you know something? i'm being asked to say things that are actually untrue and i'm not going to do it because i actually believe in ultimate truths and the truth is social security is a driver of our debt and we're in real trouble when it comes to funding social security. but instead what he does is he
stays in office, stays in the cabinet. then he allows this book to be written and he comes out with this book and we're supposed to say oh, tim guy geithner, you're really a stand up guy. i think these people whose salaries we pay have a duty to the people, not to dan pheiffer or the president of the united states. their duty is to the taxpayers who pay their salaries and tim geithner on this issue should have actually come forward and said something at the time. >> sure. you know what? by that statement, susan rice, who was told just exactly the same way. she was told go out there and say it was the video. he was told go out there and lie on tv. they were both told to lie on tv. by that measure, susan rice should say, laura ingraham has got a good point. >> would you do it? if someone said to me, i want you to go out there -- this isn't really true, but we want to tamp down this benghazi deal. yeah, it's going to look bad for us and our base. they're going to get pavlovian
on us. i would say you better find someone else to do this dirty work. >> we have a conscience, right? >> right. >> you have to have a conscience to be able to do that. >> right. this is why americans in both parties have ultimate cynicism when it comes to washington. they don't believe republicans. they don't believe democrats. there are so few people who seem to have honor in our government, on capitol hill, and in the executive branch that it's a rarity when we have someone say i'm not going to do this. i don't agree with everything they're saying, but they're actually telling me to say something that is untrue and i can't do that. i think i would stand up and applaud if any individual did that today. >> while we have you fired up, i want to ask you about immigration and customs enforcement releasing 36,000 convicted criminals awaiting deportation convictions, drunk driving, be a straighted sexual assault, homicide here, your thoughts? >> the president is set to
announce a policy that will relax deportation and clarify deportation rules in the united states. we have people who committed dui and then went on to rape children. you have to google it and you'll see all these examples of why illegal immigration is not a, quote, victimless crime. we hear about the dreamers. dreamers are all valedictorians, okay, fine. what about the people who are 27-year-olds raping three-year-olds after being convicted of a dui? i think republicans and democrats should stand up for the people of this country who are often victims of these crimes. >> it shows what a great risk it is for the president to do this because if that does happen, we hope it doesn't, you know exactly where all fingers will point. >> you'll talk about that on your radio show in about 50 minutes from right now all across the country. thank you very much. >> thanks, guys. coming up, another day, another veteran affairs hospital called out for delaying health care to our nation's heros. where exactly is the president
on this? didn't he promise to fix that problem? then if you oppose common core, you're probably a far right extremist trying to destroy public schools. huh? that's what was said by one group. indiana governor mike pence just got rid of the curriculum and joins us live to weigh in. answer the governor, who is your governor. >> i like that. ♪ ♪ help keep teeth clean and breath fresh with beneful healthy smile snacks. with soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,it's dental that tastes so good. beneful healthy smile food and snacks.
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right. well, they're wrong. the state of indiana was the first state to drop the common core and joining us right now is the man who made that happen. the governor of the great state of indiana, mike pence, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> what do you think about that criticism? >> it's just unfortunate. the reality is throughout my public career, like i think most americans, i've always believed that education is a state and local function and the federal department of education was created by president jimmy carter. while 45 states just a few years back adopted the national standards known as the common core, we've got millions of americans that have been rising up and being heard, including in indiana and saying look, we want to right our standards and write our curriculum and choose our textbooks in our own state. i'm proud of the fact that indiana was the first state in the union to legally withdraw from common core and go through the process of writing our own standards. >> what is it about common core you don't like?
>> well, at the core of it, if you will, is my objection to the notion that the standards that are written for hoosier kids and hoosier schools were crafted somewhere other than indiana. look, part of the genius of the american experiment is that the states throughout our nation's history have been laboratories of innovation and been able to style policies like we have in indiana that deal with the unique populations and unique challenges. there are some things obviously, kids in first grade need to know certain levels of math and we have a gateway exam for kids to be able to learn to read before they can go on. so there are some things that are, in fact, a minimum standard. but i wanted standards in indiana to be written by hoosiers for hoosiers and to be uncommonly high and we went through the process and accomplished that on our own.
>> good for you. you're the first state to do it. as governor, i want to get your reaction to this, since 2011, governors of states who are democrats have enacted over $58 billion worth of tax increases. meanwhile, as you can see screen right, $36 billion of cuts to taxes by republicans. >> i think we've heard that before. >> it sounds like one party wants to raise your taxes and the other party wants to lower them. >> it explains why in 29 states led by republican governors, you're seeing the kind of growth that we're seeing. i'm proud that indiana has the lowest unemployment rate in the midwest. we've been able to pass balanced budgets, have strong reserves, invest increased funding in roads and schools and education innovation. but since i was elected governor, we've also passed some $650 million in annual tax relief. and all of that creates an environment where we're seeing
real growth in indiana. we got one of the fastest growing labor forces in the country, unemployment is on the downward trend and more hoosiers are going back to work. i think the american people can see a real contrast here between republican-led states and states led by democrat governors that are more inclined than ever it seems to raise taxes and grow government. >> that's one of the reasons you're in new york city. you're talking to different businesses with relocating to your state, which would be great for your state. >> when i'm in new york, we love to tell new yorkers, if you can make it here, you can make a lot more in indiana. >> i like that. that's catchy. what about your future? i know you were elected governor in 2013? >> 2012. took office in 2013. >> that's exactly right. so what's next for mike pence? are you thinking of another run for governor? are you thinking maybe something in washington, d.c. over on pennsylvania? >> steve, i have to tell you,
having been elected governor of the state that i love is the greatest honor of my life. it's consumed all of our attention and while i've read recently some people have talked about me and other things, i'm going to stay completely focused on the future of the people of indiana because this is an extraordinary time in the life of our state. i just have to tell you. look at indiana where we have balanced budgets, we're a right to work state, we're lowering taxes even while we're investing in infrastructure and education innovation. it's one of the reasons we had the lowest unemployment rate in the midwest, fastest growing work force. >> that's why he's the governor! he knows the story. >> indiana is on the move. i'll stay focused on the future of the state of indiana. let my future take care of itself. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, steve. >> good luck to you. it's now 20 minutes after the top of the hour. switching gears, coming up, no tackle football here. 7th graders forced to play flag football over safety concerns. is this just the woosification
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now time for headlines on this tuesday morning. clay aiken is now the democratic congressional candidate for north carolina in his district because his opponent, dead. 71-year-old keith krisco died after a fall inside his house. before his death, the primary battle with aiken was too close to call. and forget the moon. nasa now ready to land people on an asteroid. like that movie. astronauts started training, but the mission won't take place until after the year 2020.
let's go outside to the bus stop. >> as you know, elisabeth, jerome bettis is one of our great friends. he's going to talk about asthma and allergies. first things first. in football, the draft is over. let's talk about the future of the game. talk about head injuries and health. in 7th graders in texas, east texas, the whole school district says this is too rough. i don't want kids getting hurt. no more tackle. they're playing flag. >> in texas. >> the state that covets football. you have to understand the concern is that real. i understand that. i grew up playing flag football. i didn't play tackle football until high school. ninth grade. so i understand that you can still have a successful nfl career playing flag football. but more importantly than that, it's the concern i think with parents about their children.
children have long-term issues dealing with concussions. >> the demand for the sport is still there. you have over 100 million people watching the super bowl. something you're familiar with. even though it pained me at the time, i love you and so happy for the steelers now. but you have people wanting to watch the sport and parents who love the sport and kids want to play the sport. but we want to keep them safe. shouldn't we be working on ways to keep them safe, better means of tackling, better methods, so they don't get concussions? >> lieutenantly. i think that's what's happening now. you see the big push, especially with the nfl, in terms of educating the coaches. teaching the coaches the proper way to show kids how to tackle and teach kids how to tackle and play the game. i think that's the natural progression of how this is going to work. now you have to go back to education because that's the key in this process. educate the parents, the coaches on what they need to do and i think that's how it starts. >> there is something else you want to educate everyone on and that has to do with saving
lives. we're talking about concussions and long-term, but also allergies. you have an allergy. >> i have a shell fish allergy. it's life-threatening. a lot of people don't understand what anaphylaxis is. it's an allergic reaction. if you have an allergic reaction that is so much that it could be life-threatening. so that's why there is a new device that's available. >> hold it up. >> it's an auto injector that has audio and visual cues. when you pull it out of the sleeve, it talks to you. >> it does. i actually -- we witnessed our friends using this on one of their kids, saved their life. it's automatic. it tells you what to do. true life saver. >> it is. you can get more information on their web site. we've got a new program that is called what's your hey q. trying to educate, get people
educated about anaphylaxis. >> the thing is, in certain passing situations, they pull you out. i want to make it known on our team, you're always in the game. as we talk to steve, could i send you into motion or could elisabeth send knew motion -- send you into motion? >> absolutely. >> jerome bettis will break tackles all the way through broadway. do not try to tackle him. he does not go down easily. >> brian and elisabeth and jerome, thank you very much. coming up next on our show on this tuesday, no love in this elevator. beyonce's sister attacks her brother-in-law, jay-z. how did that video get out? who took the picture of the picture? now the hotel is responding. smack down. and is on line flirting
considered cheating? a judge says yes. it's grounds for divorce. is this legal insanity? arthur aidala, dr. keith ablow take on brian
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some political news. during his visit to the white house today, the president of uruguay lectured president obama about the dangers of smoking. then when obama said oh, i quit, hillary clinton ran past him into the oval office. >> that easy. funny stuff. what's that guy's name? >> seth myers on late night. >> they all look alike. >> 27 minutes before the top of the hour. still a lot of show left. >> that's right. someone who doesn't look like anybody else, heather nauert. >> thanks. good morning. got news to bring you. we talked about this story out of harvard university the past few days. good defeating evil on the campus of harvard. a student group satanic black mass that was to be planned for last night was canceled after locals became outraged by it. members of the cultural studies
club said they wanted to move the mass, but couldn't find a new location. christian students say they were relieved it was called off, but still can't believe the college would allow this in the first place. listen here. >> as members of the university, i'm just ashamed that in an environment that's otherwise committed to intellectual free tom, but also to civility would be allowing such a hateful event to happen. >> the group claim the mass was a historic satanic reenactment and that it was meant to be educational. beyonce and jay-z all smiles sitting court side at the game last night hours after this explosive video surfaced that is getting a whole lot of attention this morning. take a look at this. it shows beyonce's sister attacking her brother-in-law in an elevator. the video lasts 3 1/2 minutes. take a look at this. kicks and punches and all kinds of stuff. this happened at a party last week in new york city. you can see as her sister punches and kicks jay-z while a
body guard tries to hold her back. at the end of the clip, beyonce actually pulls them away from one another. they haven't spoken out about this yet. but the standard hotel where this happened blasted the person who leaked the video saying it's, quote, shocked and disappointed that there was a clear breach of our security system. and listen to this, is it the biggest discovery since 1492? one explorer is now saying that he has found christopher columbus' long lost ship, the santa maria. that ship apparently wrecked in a storm off the coast of haiti more than 500 years ago. researchers say they are confident that a full excavation will prove that it is the explorer's actual ship. pretty neat. and just call her a future obstetrician in training. an eight-year-old girl helps deliver her own baby brother. >> are you having contractions?
>> yes, very bad. >> i want you to place the palm of your hand -- >> it's coming out. the baby is out. >> oh, my. crystal snyder went into labor two weeks early. it happens. her daughter heard her screams and called 911. the dispatcher gave the instructions and six minutes later, a healthy baby boy was born. jasmine received a certificate from the hospital nurses for her bravery. how cute is that? look at that little girl. those are your headlines. an eight-year-old. well done. >> no kidding. >> see you later. >> i love that. 24 minutes before the top of the hour on this awfully busy tuesday. we've dispatched maria molina to the streets of new york city where it was a little breezy earlier. >> it's a little breezy out here. it's making it feel chillier. we're in the 60s. but you really need that jacket as you head out the door, at least throughout the morning hours due to the wind here across parts of the northeast. i want to take you farther west where we do have a storm system that's moving eastward and early this morning, it's producing areas of rain, from parts of
texas, up into illinois and there is a concern for some flash flooding. especially across eastern parts of texas and up into parts of arkansas due to the very heavy rain that's coming down. it's going to continue to come down with several inches of rain expected out there. not only today, but tomorrow. tomorrow, you have the risk for severe weather from parts of mississippi, up into ohio, cincinnati, nashville, memphis, jackson. heads up, you could be seeing that severe weather tomorrow, especially during the afternoon and evening hours. temperature wise, above average across the southeast. then 90s in parts of north carolina. cool hyped that storm system. only 50s for you in parts of colorado and new mexico. now let's head over to brian. >> thank you very much. infidelity, a french judge ruled using on line dating web sites while matter isn't only cheating, it's grounds for divorce? the case involves a couple married for 18 years. the wife caught flirting on the internet with a man she never met. but the judge granted the
breakup saying it was the sole fault of the wife who shared intimate photos of herself with a number of men. is this ruling fair or legal insanity? joining us now, dr. keith ablow and arthur aidala, a legal analyst. again, he says he went to school. we'll go on their judgment. >> i got diplomas. >> first off, do you agree with the french on this one? >> it's even easier in the united states of america. you don't even have to go that far. if one of the persons says it's irreconcilable differences that have been going on, the general rule of thumb is more than six months, that's grounds for divorce. it used to be you had to prove you haven't had sex in over a year, adultery, abuse. now it's just like nope, we haven't gotten along in over six months. >> if you're flirting on line, are you cheating? >> absolutely not. >> who raised you, young man! >> when did marriage become about only the romance? that's not a --
>> monogamy? >> taking care of kids, being financial partner, best friends. what 18-year married couple is sending naked photos of themselves to each other? hence, none. hence, it can't be part of the marriage. so how can it be grounds for divorce? >> how about we start the trend that the 15 year wedding anniversary you start sending naked photos to each other? i think that would be helpful. >> that's your friend, my trend. >> it's a good trend! >> there is flirting and then there is flirting. >> this judge said they were naked pictures. >> arthur, with your legal background, are naked pictures back and forth, maybe you're proud of your body. >> okay. it depends. if you're entering a body building contest, then she's proud of it -- what this judge looked at it, he didn't look at it from a fidelity point of view. >> a slippery slope. the bottom line is, look, we're not going to seed reality to technology that quickly in dr. ablow's office.
and couples -- if there is to be fault divorce, i think it should be no fault, this is not the fault. >> okay. thank you. we proved as a society is there is no fault. >> if you leave your spouse over cheating, you never loved the person. >> whoa! wow! hold on. don't let that go. if you leave your spouse over cheating it means you never loved them? >> i wasn't going to let it go. i was going to enhance the conversation. i was not going to leave it there. i can't let it go. this is all i got. one third of divorce litigation is caused by on line affairs. so you're saying that one third of those relationships are based on nothing? >> in my office, if couples come in and say, i'm leaving because she cheated, i say well, good. go. because you never loved her anyhow because if that physical breach is going to make you forget that she gets sick, you're not going to take her to the hospital because you never loved her --
>> listen to this, 46% of men consider their relationships to be infidelity. if you have a female client, you're more apt to have somebody who wants out. >> correct. >> my mother wanted to know, does dr. keith know about your situation? >> we have video. >> what he said is correct. a lot of divorce lawyers ask you before you get divorced, would you give your wife a kidney now if she needed it? you either say i'd give her the kidney or i'm getting divorced. >> bottom line is, i've been married lots of years. infidelity would not crush my marriage because my relationship is made up of more than the physical. >> do both parties feel that way
>> all right. dr. keith -- listen, just you two promise never to agree. >> we hardly ever do. coming up before i get yelled at, another day, another veteran affairs hospital called out for delaying health care to our national heros. where is the president on this? didn't he promise to fix that problem? your e-mails and tweets are pouring in. then she sings the songs we all know and love. country star kellie pickler. she not only is a great singer, a great personality and she just waved to me. it's to me, right? ♪ ♪
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bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev are in court attempting to get their trials moved out of massachusetts. they are accused of removing incriminating laptop and fireworks from dzhokhar tsarnaev's dorm room following last year's bombing. president obama awarding the medal of honor to army sergeant kyle white. the 27-year-old risked his life to save fellow soldiers during a deadly ambush in afghanistan in 2007. arlington national cemetery will be marking the 150th anniversary of its first burial. descendants of the first soldier buried there will attend a special wreath laying. steve? >> that is in arlington, virginia. here is a story out of durham, north carolina regarding the v.a. hospital there. we've been telling you over the last couple of weeks about the scandal that started in phoenix where they had a secret second list because any time you go in to a v.a. hospital, you've got to get care within 14 days, otherwise there is a problem.
well, another thing down there in durham, two employees have been placed on administrative leave because they, too, did this illegal selling thing. only two we know of obviously this thing is getting bigger and bigger. >> and the big question is, do they need a change at the top or do they need more aggressive management micromanaging down below? a lot of you are weighing in how to fix this and whose head should roll. >> diane said those responsible for mistreating our vets should be jailed. this behavior is disgraceful. >> terry on facebook writes, our government releases illegal immigrants accused of crimes ranging from d.u.i to murder, while imprisoning our veterans in a dysfunctional system. good point. famously, the v.a. hospital, people have talked for years about well, there is a lot of red tape and they got -- some of them lousy customer service. but outright corruption like this? that's shocking. >> yeah.
>> disheartening to think about our nation's heros going and risking their lives to come home and die waiting on a list? >> this is the good place. >> this is supposed to be where we're taking care of them. where is the promise? where is the outrage and where is the accountable and where is the president on this? where is the commander in chief? >> no kidding. >> standing behind general shinseki. we'll see what happens. meanwhile, coming up straight ahead, our final guest of the day. >> she is fantastic. one of country music's finest and this morning she is here live. superstar kellie pickler coming up and there, getting a touch up. >> martha mccallum has been in the chair and is ready to go. >> all touched up and ready to go. good morning. thanks so much. coming up this morning, a bizarre story out of north carolina where the runoff with clay aiken is over because his primary opponent died. we're going to tell that you story. disturbing news about the dangers of releasing some illegal immigrants. and a scuffle in the elevator
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well, her southern charm and big voice captivated the "american idol" audience eight years ago. ♪ oh, baby got to get out ♪ just got to get right out of here ♪ ♪ . >> what a flashback. since then kellie pickler's big win led to a strange of country music hits. but the music competition show still guarantees success for its breakout stars. here to weigh in is kellie pickler herself. >> hello. >> that was a couple hairdos
ago. >> i'm sitting here like whoa, wow. a lot has changed since then. weird to look like that. i feel like an antique idol. >> never. >> you were up and coming. we said it's eight years ago. you confirmed it. you came in sixth place. at that point, you had 20 to 30 million people watching. >> yeah. >> your life would never be the same. now it's down to about 7 million. how much is left. >> which is still a lot of people. >> it's a lot. but how much do you think is left in the franchise with idol, the voice and everything like that? >> there is a lot of reality singing competition shows out there. so i think you just have to find ways to reinvent the show and make it interesting and different than the season before it. >> it sounds like "american idol" is going to be cutting back the number of hours that they broadcast. >> are they? >> yeah, they are. >> for one day. >> they're going to cut it back to 37 hours next year. >> how does that affect the voting? >> that's a good question. as you look in and watch idol, is there something you think maybe they should do this and it
would pep up the ratings? >> i don't know. >> or do you think it's just perfect the way it is? >> i think like i said, there is always room to kind of reinvent. but keep it like it was. of course, i miss sigh -- simon. >> what's this? >> so crazy. >> i remember watching that and loving you then. >> that definitely takes me back for sure. >> this is a chance of a lifetime. >> it was. i've been so blessed. people ask me, what's it like to be on the show like that? for me, i can't complain. it was really the rocket that launched my career. and it enabled me to do what i love, which is be a part of country music. and us be a part of special things and do what i love. >> i love how you're so humble throughout all your success and so thankful for all that and the people who loved you dearly.
i know you have an important message today. your grandma died from lung cancer. >> she did. she was young. she was 66 years old. she was diagnosed with lung cancer in january of 2002 and she died the very next day. so it was very sudden. there she is. that's actually the last picture that we took together before she died. >> now you're getting that message out? >> yes. i was really shocked by that. i think there was 1% of women in america are even aware that lung cancer is the number one cancer killer for women. >> i had no idea. >> i was blown away. it's estimated that more than 72,000 women in the u.s. will die from lung cancer this year. >> terrible statistic. what do you want people to do? >> we need to get everyone rallied up for lung force at lungforce.org, find out how to
get involved and raise awareness. we need to be more educated on how we can prevent this and treat this. longforce.org. >> it's that simple? >> your grandma would be really proud. i know she's looking down, smiling. >> amazing to be part of something like this. obviously near and dear to my heart. so i think it's important. i love to sing, i love the music. but when i'm able to be part of something like this that really matters and helps save people's lives -- >> a lot of people are listening and a lot of people are going on line right now. >> thank you. >> kellie pickler, ladies and gentlemen. >> fame has not changed you at all. a few tattoos, that's it. >> that's it. >> we'll be right back. whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in.
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and the number of u.s. congressmen under a legal or ethical cloud right now who are likely to get reelected this november. we start with the loud and angry debate over this new war against the terror group isis. it exploded big time in washington today. the first attack came from the left as code pink showed up to protest a senate hearing with defense secretary chuck hagel and general martin dempsey of the joint chiefs. >> would you please not take advantage of the freedom of this place? will you please remove this lady from the room. this disruption is not helping -- [ gavel banging constant ] >> we need to get out of iraq, out of syria, stop the bombing! >> i'm glad we can hear her. then came a more damaging assault from the hawkish right as john mccain struck hard at president obama's strategy of having the free syrian army carry the ground attack against isis. >> if we were to take assad off
the table, we'd have a much more difficult time forming a coalition. but i think what you're hearing us express is an isil first strategy. i don't think we'll find ourselves in that situation, given what we intend to do with -- >> you don't think that the free syrian army is going to fight against bashar assad, who has been decimating them? >> as we train them and develop a military chain of command linked to a political structure, that we can establish objectives that defer that challenge into the future, we do not have to deal with it now. >> that's a fundamental misunderstanding of the entire concept and motivation of the free syrian army. and for us to say that we are going to go in and help and train and equip these people and only to fight against isil, you're not going to get many recruits to do that, general. i guarantee you that. >> i think mccain is right on this one. these attacks followed rand paul's attack yesterday, calling the free syrian army
untrustworthy. >> it's a mistake to arm them. most of the arms we've given to the so-called moderate rebels have wound up in the hands of isis, because isis takes it from them or is given them, or we mistakenly give it to some of the radicals. >> and that led to this stwip from senator mccain last night. >> has rand paul ever been to syria? has he ever met with syria, with any of these people. >> i'm not trying to fight. >> we're going to have a fight. because this is false. this is the same rand paul who said we didn't want to have anything to do with anything in the middle east. i don't want to get in a fight with him at all, but it's not true. i know these people, i'm in contact with them all the time. >> let me ask you this -- so now the president's strategy against isis is under assault. senator, thank you for joining us. is there going to be a vote in
the united states senate on whether we support an air strike, a series of air strikes, against isis? will there be a vote on that particular issue? >> chris, there will. last week, i was worried we weren't going to have a vote, and i've been advocating there's not statutory authority to allow this without congressional involvement. i'm generally supportive of the proposal, but last week, the chair of the foreign relations committee indicated after listening to the president's speech that it was open-ended enough that it needed a separate congressional authorization. so he's committed to that going forward and that makes me feel good. i wish it was going to be sooner than it will likely be, but i am glad that we will have the kind of debate that we're supposed to have. >> before the election or after the election? >> right now, i think the odds are that it would be after -- >> what kind of vote is that where you vote on something like war and peace after the people
have had a choice of senators? you don't even get to decide whether you keep or dump a senator based on their vote? >> well, chris, i'm not arguing with you on that. although i'm sure everybody running now is going to get asked what their take on this is and they should. this is something that congress needs to bless. the article 2 power gives the president ability to defend, but not wage offensive war, but we are going to take it up in foreign relations and i think we need to. >> part of the president's strategy relies on a brood coalition that includes arab countries in the middle east. thank you the wall street journal reported today, quote, a day after the u.s. said arab states were willing to participate in airstrikes, arab countries attending the paris meeting gave no sign they were ready to join the military campaign. the hesitancy of many of the middle east's major sunni leaders, including saudi arabia, jordan, and the united arab
emratss, the three -- so where's this alliance? who's going to join us in the air over syria, or on the ground in iraq or syria? are we once again going to be the lonesome hawks in there, the only ones in there fighting? >> we shouldn't be the lonesome hawks. we'll have a hearing tomorrow with secretary kerry and that's the question i'm going to ask. we can't police a region that won't police itself. we can be an ally if there's sincere interest in regional policing. but reports have been conflicting. we're going to have partners, but some of them want to do it quietly. if arab nations aren't willing to be public partners and be out front in the leadership of this effort, it won't be successful. and that will, i think, change a lot of viewpoints about whether the u.s. should act unilaterally. they need to be on board. >> who is going to fight isis? we'll bomb them from the air, but somebody has to take the
smithereens and create a government there. the free syrian army is primarily existing because it's against assad, the government in damascus. they're not focused on going after isis. who's going to fight isis, if we just pound them from the air with no allies? >> the answer to that question is much easier on the iraq side of the border than on the syrian side. in iraq, you have the iraqi military, with a reformed government and training and assistance, has sufficient numbers and equipment if they're led right, they can fight, in addition the peshmerga in kurdistan are a strong fighting force. i agree with you, it's much more complicated on the syrian side of the line. >> but that's where they are. that's where their headquarters are. >> they're in both places. >> how do you fight germany without going to germany? how do you fight the enemy if the enemy is somewhere you're not willing to go? >> you don't have to fight every front at the same time. you fight in the places where
you can make the most difference. i think we've shown we can make a difference in iraq the most easily and there are more allies on the ground who are willing to do that fight. the training of the opposition is syria is a dicey proposition, but if we want to take it seriously, we have to provide assistance there as well. >> are you confident we can win this war with the purported help of the free syrian army and the purported help of our arab friends on the sunni side of the fence? do you think this makes sense, this war? >> if we have meaningful partnership from arab nations in the region, then yes, i do. if we don't, i think it's very, very difficult. >> well said, thank you very much. general dempsey said without the backing of arab countries, the goal of destroying isis is almost impossible, what senator kaine just said.
>> so our national defense, in terms of stopping isil from killing thousands or millions of americans if they get the capability, really comes down to whether or not we can convince the arab world to go in there and defeat these guys. >> it really comes down to building a coalition so that what the arab muslim world sees is them rejecting isis. >> senator, i have never seen an american war we go into thinking we're going to lose. that's what the polling is showing. 2/3 of the people polled by the wall street journal say they don't think we can win with this strategy, but they support it. how do you explain that? >> i think people want to see something happen because of the demonic activity of isis. at the same time, i thought the question to my good friend were
outstanding. they're the questions i'll ask tomorrow of secretary kerry. it's evident, the administration came out with this public announcement because they felt they needed to because of what's happening in the mid terms. they really don't have a plan yet. i agree with senator kaine, we should vote on this authorization now. if that's what they're asking for, we should vote on the full authorization by teasing out the details of the plan. and as you've asked, ask how it's going to work, especially in syria. i think it's ludicrous to think that isis is located in syria, based in syria, it's where their strength is, that training up a few thousand moderate folks that are there by the way because of assad, is going to make any difference, or much difference at all on the ground there. so again, i think this was something that was thrown out. i think the president was looking at polling. i want us to be successful, but i think the only way to be successful, chris, is to really
think this true. typically, when you talk about a coalition, you put it together first, and then you announce the coaliti coalition. to say you're putting one together, speaks to the fact that they're dreaming this up on the fly. i hope before we commit men and women in harm's way, we'll really think through, not get hysterical, but think through the long haul how we'll deal with this and be effective. >> let's talk about our history. we became a country because the british tried to beat us with the germans. they lost us because we really cared. now we can't even find hesians. which jordanian soldier is going to put his foot into iraq or syria? none. which saudi arabian fighter pilot will fight them from the air? none. who from the arab emirates is
going to go in there? none. so we're talking about the hesian army to fighting this for themselves and there's no evidence that anyone else wants to fight a war that we've declared. how can you declare a war without the use of an army? >> so, again, chris, all of the types of questions that you're asking now are the types, i'm sure, that will be asked tomorrow. this is why, as tim just mentioned, i mean, having a real authorization authorize this is important, but that's after the administration comes and seeks that and teases out all of these details, none of which have been forth coming. i think you only have to look to libya. we talked about the coalition there, but who really footed the bill there? it was the united states. and i think as you look at what's happening or going to happen in iraq and syria, it's really going to be the united states. i hope we can gather some coalition members that are
providing something, other than being coat holders. but that's what we need to push for. i don't think we can be successful unless we can cobble together the things that are meaningful and will be sustainable. that's what we need to do on behalf of the american people. >> general dempsey suggested that if the current strategy fails, he might recommend that we send ground forces in iraq. here's the general. i'd like your reaction to that. >> in terms of utilizing the -- on the ground, the forces that are syrian and iraqi, rather than western forces, is that part of the thinking at this time as well, to avoid a western ground force in an arab or muslim country? >> my view at this point is that this coalition is the appropriate way forward. i believe that will prove true.
but if it fails to be true, and if there are threats to the united states, then i, of course, would go back to the president and make a recommendation that may include the use of u.s. military ground forces. >> senator, the white house put out a statement, they always do after statements like that are made, said it was hypothetical. but it has the look of a slippery slope. >> yeah, look, it's my understanding that recommendations were made on the front end, that we would have special ops on the ground in both iraq and syria, and the president pushed back on that. but i think that is what our military leaders have been pushing for, and over time, it's my sense that some need for that will exist. i mean, we already have people on the ground in iraq. obviously they're not in combat roles. they're in enabling roles. obviously some isr roles, but at the end of the day, especially with all the right questions that you've asked earlier, you
do have to ask, well, who is then and obviously again, our armies, our military people are the best-trained in the world. that's a question that i think is going to persist, but again, i think, chris, those are all the things we need to be addressing on the front end. and i think what would be a tragedy here would be for this to become something no one ever envisioned in the first place. and by the way, for people to lose the will halfway through and it be another one of those confrontations where men and women lose their life and limbs and we lose treasure. and the outcome that we're trying to achieve and never achieved. so i think all of these are good questions. we need to continue to be diligent and hopefully get to a place that we all feel comfortable will be successful, back to your initial question on the program. >> thanks so much, senator. my own skepticism about this strategy grows and grows. coming up, from isis to
ebola. president obama announced today a major effort to fight the sdreez in west africa, with 3,000 american troops headed to west africa. another front. and once again, it's up to us, the united states to meet and beat a monumental challenge. plus, more problems for the nfl. the governor of minnesota said the vikings should suspend star running back adrian peterson until accusations of child abuse are resolved. so far the team's owners are letting him play this sunday. the question is, should they? and they're being called the bad boys of congress. with legal and ethical issues or both, and they're all poised to win re-election this november. why are voters so soft, willing to give these guys a pass? finally, let me finish with the nfl thing about child beating. this is "hardball," a place for politics.
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welcome back to "hardball." a dramatic escalation today in the u.s. response to the ebola crisis in west africa. the white house has announced a major military-led campaign involving 3,000 service people, troops, to support relief efforts over there. the epidemic continues to rage
out of control in west africa. health officials are aware 5,000 cases in seven countries. but are worried many more cases are unreported. one senior official told reporters that if we don't arrest the growth now, we could be looking at hundreds of thousands of cases. and it's lethal, that disease. late today, president obama addressed the outbreak and the large-scale u.s. response from cdc headquarters in atlanta. >> we're prepared to take leadership on this, to provide the kinds of capabilities that only america has, and to mobilize the world in ways that only america can do. the scenes that we're witnessing in west africa today are absolutely gut-wrenching. in one account over the weekend, we read about a family in liberia, the disease had already killed the father. the mother was cradling a sick and listless 5-year-old son. her other son 10 years old, was dying too.
they finally reached a treatment center, but they couldn't get in and said, we're just sitting. these men and women and children are just sitting, waiting to die. right now. and it doesn't have to be this way. >> well, from fighting isis in the mid east to combatting these awful scenes of ebola in west africa, once again america's role in the world is in focus. quite simply, this is what the world counts on us to do, to respond. howard dean, the d.c. chair, also a physician. and republican and chairman of the house sub committee on africa and global health. gentlemen, thank you for joining us. this is a unique example of something that has to do with your belief in life and humanity. >> it's not just that, i thought the president was pretty emotional. but the public healths ramifications are significant. you could have entire countries collapsing as a result of this. and the infrastructure in places
like liberia and sierra leone is essentially zero for poor people. >> they don't have hospitals? >> they have hospitals, but they're places you go to die and the sanitary conditions are appalling. that's the problem. you pick up your child who is dying, you're probably going to get ebola. so they really do need -- the reason for the military, you have to have people who will bring some order. the president is right, this can threaten a lot more places than africa. >> i want to tell you something, this is an issue that is going to unite us, i think. my question, do you think service people, a soldier, male or female, whatever outfit they're in, gets sent over there, is this a safe deployment? >> it will be made safe. and frankly, i'm chairing my second emergency hearing on ebola tomorrow. we had tom freed an on in
august. i just got off the phone with the president of liberia and she has said that if the transmission chain is not broken, her whole country is at risk. that's how bad this is. what the military can do, and they can do it very effectively, is to stand up more beds, provide command and control, provide security, because there's a decreasing amount of security, particularly in monrovia, the capital of liberia, and this terrible outbreak could quickly become a pandemic if it's not contained. containment is the issue and of course treatment, there's no cure, but there are some promising interventions that have already had very positive results with certain patients. so we need to do everything humanly possible to help the suffering and the families, best practices, including what you do with remains, with a dead person, if you touch that person, which is very customary
in african culture, you can pick up the disease. all of that has to be quadrupled in our efforts. and again, the united states and the professionals at the cdc, nih, usaid, the ngos there are unbelievable, particularly the faith-based, we are leading by doing. and i give high marks to those people who put their lives on the line, and our military will add that added security, plus beds. there are no beds in liberia left for sick people. >> congressman, let's look at the extent of the response already. we're sending 3,000 military personnel to west africa to combat the outbreak. an army command center will be established in monrovia. medical supplies will target the 400,000 most vulnerable families. and the pentagon is diverted $500 million for the effort. you're talking to a servicewoman's family right now.
the conduct of putting military borders, isolating situations where it's broken out, that doesn't involve the kind of contact, does it? >> it doesn't have to, and they can be dressed appropriately. some of these people will be the equivalent of directing traffic. these countries have come a long way, but they're still pretty chaotic. they have very little basic systems of any kind, transportation, but even public health. the thing is, people say, what business is it of ours to straighten this problem out? we live in a global world. there's no problem anywhere in the world that can't get to be our problem in a big hurry. whether you're talking about the russians in ukraine or about this. >> 14% of the american people, 1 in 7 are seriously worried about it affecting them. >> now, it turns out if you happen to be unfortunate enough to get ebola and you come to the united states, your chances of survival are much, much better. >> but the average person in
oklahoma is not going to get ebola? >> right now. but suppose a plane load of people come here that's been to one of those places -- >> let me ask congressman smith. nothing's permanent and nothing's perfect. and there's too much intolerance of something happening, but do you think he'll be able from the congressional end to make sure nobody brings it back with them? >> great question. we know the cdc and every state department of health have protocols in place, particularly at points of entry, but again there's always flaws, always the possibility we won't get it right. let me just say on your question about the military, i have to tell you, whether it was the tsunami, and i went to phuket a and it was the military that put the tourniquet on what would
have been a very big loss of life. these troops will be focused on the mission. there's always the possibility of getting sick, but they will be taking every precaution to fulfill the mission which is now a big gaping hole that's not being met in liberia as well as the other two countries most affected. >> i think one of the things george w. bush did was in east africa, it really did the job of stopping hiv over there. this is another case where we, in a bipartisan way, i'm glad we had both of you guys on tonight. this is one time where america can be the good guys, and in your case, certainly pro life. up next, duck dynasty's phil robertson strikes again. this man is ridiculous. this is "hardball," a place for politics. who would have thought three cheese lasagna would go with chocolate cake and ceviche?
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back to "hardball" and time for the side show. the people of scotland face a crucial referendum this thursday, whether it vote for independence and exit the uk k or to stay in the union they've shared for the last 300 years. polls show the voting will be close. but as stephen colbert pointed out, their bid for independence is more an economic decision than a matter of national pride. >> at issue is whether scotland will be able to control their own tax and social security rates and decisions about the level and allocation of public spending. this is an emotionally charged struggle that traces its roots all the way to the days of william wallace. >> they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom to calculate pension benefits based on inflation or earnings, whichever is higher!
[ cheers and applause ] >> freedom! >> perhaps not the most convincing battle cry. next up, phil robertson, that ultra conserve stiff pate yark of "duck dynasty," got suspended when he railed against homosexual behavior. nine months later he's gone further telling tony perkins on his radio show that diseases like aids are god's punishment for what he calls immoral conduct. listen up. >> god says one woman, one man and everybody said that's old hat. that's the old bible stuff. and i'm thinking, a clean guy, disease-free guy, and a disease-free woman, they marry and they keep their sex between the two of them, they're not going to get chlamydia and gonorrhea, syphilis and aids. it's safe. now, to me, either it's the
wildest coincidence ever that horrible diseases follow immoral conduct, or it's god saying, there's a penalty for that kind of conduct. i'm leaning toward, there's a penalty toward it. >> it's obviously what he thinks for what it's worth, not much. up next, more troubles for the nfl. the governor in minnesota thinks adrian peterson should be suspended unless his child abuse allegations are resolved. peterson set to play this weekend. you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. one coffee with room, one large mocha latte, medium macchiato, a light hot chocolate hold the whip, two espressos. make one a double. she's full and focused. [ barista ] i have two cappuccinos, one coffee with room, one large mocha latte, a medium macchiato, a light hot chocolate hold the whip, and two espressos -- one with a double shot. heh, heh. that's not the coffee talkin'. [ female announcer ] start your day with kellogg's frosted mini wheats cereal. with whole wheat goodness on one side and a hint of sweetness on the other, it's a delicious way to get the nutrition you want.
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is now 20% contained. it's destroyed about 100 homes and forced more than a thousand people to flee. now we'll take you back to "hardball." based on the extensive information we have right now, and what we know about adrian not only as a person, but he's also done for this community, we believe he deserves to play, while the legal process plays out. we feel strongly as an organization that this is disciplining a child. and whether it's an abusive situation or not, or whether he went too far disciplining, we feel very strongly that that is the court's decision to make. but we also understand the seriousness of, you know, abusing children as well. >> that was the general manager of the minnesota vikings football team. they announced that adrian peterson, the team's star running back, who is facing a
felony charge for injuring one of his children, will continue to play in the nfl. play this sunday. and the team will let the legal process play out, as they put it. you can decide for yourself whether vikings lost to the patriots last sunday had anything to do with the team's decision to reinstate its star running back, while the legal process plays out. we see in this picture the rad son hotel logo. the hotel chain announced it was suspending its sponsorship of the vikings citing its commitment to the protection of children. and today more disagreement. in a statement, it's an awful situation. yes, mr. peterson is entitled to due process and should be innocent until proven guilty. however, he's a public figure, and his actions as described are a public embarrassment to the vikings organization and the state of minnesota. whipping a child to the extent of visible wounds, as has been
alleged, should not be tolerated in our state. therefore, i believe the team should suspend mr. peterson until the accusations of child abuse have been resolved by the criminal justice system. joining me now, psychiatrist jeff gard ear and boston globe sports reporter. doctor, what is this syndrome of this serious child beating that we see in the picture? and pictures do tell a hell of a story here. it looks like the lines you get on a hotdog when you broil it. these are lines one after another, all across the body. these are not caused by a spanking. >> this is caused by a beating. quite often what we see with parents who inflict corporal punishment, it's not so much about trying to teach the child a lesson. it's that they are out of control. they are angry at the moment, or they feel disrespected and they're not able to contain the situation, and therefore, they act out that anger, that impulse they can't control against the child.
ask th and then later o they feel badly. even adrian peterson said, maybe i went over the line. then he backs up and said, that's what my dad did and that's what i do. >> let's get that streit. i think in mai generation, we were all hit with the belt pretty hard and i talked to people about it in my generation. that was what people did in the early '50s. they did. but this idea of getting a tree branch and putting welts on the kid, i didn't like what happened to me much to say the least, but this kind of behavior. he said it was something his dad to him. this kid was 4 years old. >> that's the point. >> it's hard for me to think of what disciplining even means at 4 years old. what crime the kid apparently used bad language. so he beats him up in the car. you're right, i don't know. but you're saying it's basically anger management. it's a psychological situation regarding the parent, obviously not some kind of disobedience by the 4-year-old. >> that's right. and you're not teaching a lesson. we have found that even though
you may get some short-term gain from the child as far as better behavior, in the long run, you only end up traumatizing the child and the child learns that violence is the way to solve a problem. it's just not the right way. >> and that's exactly what the word brutalizing means. it's always misused. thank you for joining us. let's talk about the decision-making by sports organizations. i said last night this angers everybody, but it happens to be true. every establishment, whether it's a university bike notre dame or unc or schools i care about, or it's the catholic church, the primary concern is the operation of the organization. the operation, the success of the organization, the reputation of the organization. only after time and intervention and exposition and you find out all the facts and the public is outraged does it go to the concern about the victim, the altar boys rather than the priests. the priests who have a problem
rather than the cardinals looking out for them. same with the universities they got a program for football that makes them a lot of money, prestige, great applicants that want to go to the school, they protect the image. and the rapists get to go free. this is what happened in these schools. your thoughts? >> yeah, absolutely, you're correct. in the nfl, they have a phrase, protect the shield. that's what's going on here. the nfl in its decision-making policy, to see what way the wind is blowing, that's how it makes its decision. quite frankly, it needs to hear more voices like the governor of minnesota, more voices from outside what is essentially an echo chamber within the league. voices that aren't concerned or have a broader perspective than next sunday's game, and a broader perspective than the 10 billion in annual revenue that the league generates. they need to hear from more people who think about more than football. >> what about the fans? do the fans really care? do they have a conscience, or do
they just want a good win-loss record? >> i think it depends which fans you talk to. as we saw with the ray rice situation, when the ravens played the steelers have thursday night, you had women showing up in ray rice jerseys, defending ray rice. and i believe this past sunday when the minnesota vikings played the patriots and lost that you had people showing up in adrian peterson jerseys. so i think it's a very diverse fan base. i think by and large fans are pretty disgusted with how the nfl has handled this matter, and their lack of transparency and what seems to be the league's lack of sincerity in meting out punishments. >> it seems to me, everyone in the beginning of this case or in the middle, did the right thing. the mother took the 4-year-old child with the welts to a doctor. the doctor, she knew what she was doing. she was bringing the kid in the condition he was in, having been
beaten to hell, and the doctor sees it. so the doctor did the right thing, he notified authorities. then the authorities did the right thing. then you get to the nfl. play the guy. >> it's really shocking. the nfl does need to take a stand and have a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to violence. what happened with ray rice, they learned the hard way that they should have taken a tougher stance. this case is even worse than ray rice and i will say that, because, yes, it was horrible that ray rice beat his wife, but now you're talking about a defenseless child, a 4-year-old boy that has been exposed to that kind of brutalized punishment. it's absolutely wrong. >> thank you, doctor, for being an expert. we'll have you back on in a happier moment about sports some night. up next, from criminal indictments to affairs with staffers, why are congress's bad boys poised for a good year at the poll? we -- not we.
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eked out his primary by just 38 votes, but is expected to cruise to victory in the general election. former south carolina governor and now congressman mark sanford, still plagued by an on going custody battle faces no opposition at all this fall. and congressman of louisiana, known as the kissing congressman after he was caught on tape kissing a female staffer outside of her apartment, originally declined to run for re-election, but reversed his decision and now leads his field of kagers. why are voters so willing to give these guys a pass. joan walsh is with salon and a political analyst. i'm glad you've got the right attitude, i can see, with your teeth, you're talking to me already. these guys, now, they're all republicans. i took out one democrat because
his charge was totally vague. it was campaign finance or something. >> oh, god. >> yes, yes, i'm honest with you, michael and you put the dagger in my heart. a lot of republicans on tonight. you're the third or fourth on tonight. so it's a good night. > joan, you're first. what do you think of this? these people being so complacent when they know they've done wrong. >> it's the lucky dog club. these are lucky dogs. it looks like they're going back. it's not done yet. some of them could still lose, not mark sanford, obviously. chris, people are tired of adjudicating marital behavior. they're saying these guys are no trying to be husband of the year. they're going to congress, they're not asking me the marry them. that's a good thing. i would put michael grim in a really good category, and that's kind of mystifying to me. we have a 20-count federal indictment that includes things
like wire fraud, mail fraud, tax evasion, hiring up documented workers. >> do you to tell me that a restaurant has hired undocumented workers? i am shattersed. >> there are 20 counts. if that's not a big deal to you, go down and look at the other 19. we also had him caught on video, threatening tv journalists. so that's a little bit mystifying. wu staten island is a tough community. he's set himself up by somebody who's being attacked by elites. it looks like it's working. >> he's going to break him in half like a boy. what a strange comment to make. >> and this strange comment, i'm not here to defend michael grim. he's got a lot of indictments against him. i think what it speaks to, though, is something it's very interesting that's within the body electorate.
you look at their canter rates. why did eric canter get bounced out? because he didn't pay attention to his district. it's because people don't connect that to the job that they're supposed to do in congress. kpept with grim, there's some overlay that may come back to bite him. by enlarge, people have bifurcated and trif ed trifurca congressional appeal. >> so if you vote pro-life and pressure your girlfriend into having an abortion, that's okay because it was off-campus? >> unbelievable. >> i'm not saying that's a problem, i'm just saying the voters are finding a way to parse and separate behaviors. >> how about mark sanford walking the re-election list in november without a care in the
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let me finish tonight with this nfl thing and child beating.
it seems to me that the mother did the right thing. the mother saw the welts on him and notified the authorities. the authorities took action. now, to the nfl. the vikings general manager said the court has to decide this matter but also offered his own judgment. we feel strong ly as an organization that this is disciplining a child. whipping a four-year-old with a tree branch until it looks like a hot dog off the grill. did you ever think of how that whole thing looks? when a player is on the field and trips into a quarterback, it's unnecessary roughness. suppose a player did spg like this to another player during a
the not so smooth criminal arrived at the san francisco court in a stolen car and was promptly arrested by police once again. >> we appreciate you joining us today. thank you so much. >> have a great day. "fox & friends" starts now. >> bye. good morning everyone. it is thursday, theç first of may, 2014. i'm anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. torrential rains soaking the country. one sink hole the size of a city block and more water on the day. we have tips you need to survive a flash flood. >> tension in the white house has the administration scrambeling e-mails linking the white house to a benghazi coverup. >> why did it take a court case for you to release this? >> i can say this again and again, this document was not about tkpwepbgz. >> not about benghazi?
>> then why was the e-mail titled benghazi, mr. carney. >> russiaç pushing back on sanctions saying that bear on a trampoline is now your own only ticket to space. wow. >> shepherd must be happy. >> mornings, according to everyone we talk to, are better with friends. >> welcome back to "fox & friends." >> gabe kaplan. i will miss those guys. >> what did they say? put a rubber hose up your nose?ç mr. carter! >> funny what people remember. >> that's horseshack. he passed away. >> anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. she'll be back tomorrow.
>> there was epstein, washington and barberino. >> you tune to a news channel for the news, and for that we turn to heather nauert. >> we've got breaking news from the south. parts of it we're talking about could be weather related. we begin with a fox news alert. there was a gas explosion and it hit a florida jail leaving two inmates dead this morning. more than 100 prisoners and corrections officers have been hurt. this happened in pensacola, florida. the explosion inside the jail central booking area caused part of it to collapse. no word on what causedç the blast but that area has been hit with heavy flooding. we'll keep you posted. millions of folks across the east coast are in the grip of a storm that just won't quit. relentless rain in pensacola, florida, causing this road to collapse, swallowing a truck.
the driver inside that truck managed to make it out believe. mobile, alabama, an elderly woman was one of those who had to be rescued. fire fighters carried her to safety after her car was stranded on a flooded street. a little girl in a kayak in her family livingç room. her family was trapped in their home in two feet of water. the only way to try to keep that little girl dry. >> in a botched execution of an oklahoma inmate, sparking a lot of outrage this morning and now calls for moratoriums on legal injections. witnesses at the execution report a grizzly scene after one of his veins ruptured when he was injected with an experimental cocktail of lethal drugs. >> he was trying to move his head up from the gurney, trying to move his shoulders from the gurney and moving his legs. this is when they closed the curtain because it became very clear that
whatever was happening was too dramatic for the media to see. >> the guy died 45 minutes later of a heart attack. a boat washed ashore in washington state and it could be from that deadly trenami two years ago. boat was covered in vegetation and shells. police say there are some sort of asian symbols on the hull of the boat leading to speculation it was from the tsunami. those are your headlines. i'll be back with more later. >> heather, thank you very much. brian, let's talk little bit about benghazi. at fox, we've been telling you this is a story we personally have talked to people who were there. we have heard stories about what's gone on. now it has started"uz hit the fan. with that e-mail that was released by the white house to judicial watch after they sued them, we now know that the white house had a conspiracy where essentially what they were trying to do was change the
story. let's blame that video; right, on what happened over in libya, in benghazi on that night where four brave americans died. well, now we know that there was a coverup as well because they had redacted, they crossed out all the stuff. then finally we got to see it. yesterday the white house press corps had it up to here. they realized they had been lied to for over a year and it even came down to where jay carney, who apparently is not paid enough because he tries to do a good job for the administration, he said that the benghazi memo that they prepared for susan rice before she went out on the sundayç shows, it wasn't about benghazi, even though at the top of it it said "benghazi." here's jonathan carl. >> you knew full well what susan rice primarily was going to be asked about was the attack, terrorist attack on a u.s. consolate. ambassador rice went on those shows and said the
attack in benghazi was rooted in protests over an internet video. we now know that was not true. >> i would point you to what mike morrell said repeatedly in testimony about the?x(áqpáion of the talking points. >> morrell said last month, when he heard that he said that is not something our analysts said. it came from the white house; right? >> you're wrong. if you look at that document, that document that we're talking about today was about the overall environment in the muslim world. >> the topic was a prep call, prep with susan, meaning susan rice. it was sent at 4:00 saturday for sunday appearances. what i think is so exasperating, they rolled it in delayed on our channel, i think what is exasperating is you're trying to write a story, trying to follow through and you're trying to wonder if the guy talking to you
and explaining it has read into the reality of it. but you've got to go with what he says. jay carney was on that e-mail when itç seems ben rhodes whose goal was to take this incident that blew up and try to find a way to spin it in which the administration doesn't look back and makes it look like they're tough on terror. bin laden is dead and al qaeda is on the run. you can't say that and beat mitt romney if that is not true. if the truth came out about tkpwepbgz on september 14 -- about benghazi on september 14 that in fact would not have been true. how different would that debate have been if they had been able to look at the situation and sayç guys -- >> you mean how would the debate have been if the white house told the truth? >> it looks like they did know the truth and was trying to spin it behind the scenes. >> the mainstream media didn't cover it in prime time, newspapers didn't cover it on the front page,
although we did see it in "usa today" but it does appear the mainstream media is having a hard time covering it anymore. are they trying to protect hillary clinton in the next general election? is that it? or do they think this is a fox story that is tired and the american people are sick of hearing it. it proves fnc has been right all along and we should have been covering it. lindsey graham said last night this certainly is a smoking gun. >> this is proof positive that right after the attack, three days after the attack,ç they did not give a damn about the intelligence. they wanted to create a political narrative to protect the president and i think most americans find that offensive and i'm not going to stop until somebody is held accountable for allowing it to be a death trap, somebody be fired for not coming to the aid of these people for at least nine and a half hours and somebody be fired for not protecting the american people. and i don't believe ben rhodes did this by himself.
somebody in the white house higher up than this concocted this story because they were worried about the reelection. when susan rice said i have no regrets, i gave the american people theç best evidence available, that is a bald-faced lie. >> i'd like to see jay carney wired up to a lie detector. i'm kidding. jay carney said that particular prep memo was not about benghazi. yet the top line says benghazi. the other part, lindsey graham spoke about this last night, in it it says this, quote, the investigation is ongoing and the u.s. government is working with libyan authorities to bring to justice those responsible for the death of u.s. citizens. jay carney had been suggesting that was about the unrest at all the other embassies on 9/11 because of the video. but this particular thing that was circulated by ben rhodes and he's probably just the messenger, carney
suggesting it was general unrest. and yetç specifically in the document it talked about americans who died, only died i. jay carney, if he, if it wasn't about benghazi, it sure looks like it. >> if it was ed henry, he would have taken a shot at fox. instead it was jonathan carl. you saw jay carney's wheels spinning thinking, rather than answering the question, he paused and said i have no answer to your question. >> there were four other guys that asked questions about it. let's go toç gentleman's quarterly magazine. they are the ones who generally tell you how to get rid of that pimple real fast. >> also pull out the cologne and rub it on yourself and prepare tend you bought the bottle. >> yesterday they were talking about who should buy the l.a. clippers. they talked a little bit about donald sterling.
what they wound up doing was they said essentially, they insinuated that if you are a conservative you are a racist. >> this tweet went out and said good luck to donald sterling with whatever show he ends up hosting on fox news probably. how does that make us feel as fox news employees? are you kidding me? how does it make you feel as a fox news channel viewer? what do you think about this? e-mail us at fox news.com. does that mean if you're a conservative, you're a racist? >> it's interesting. in whatever blog we saw fellow, or gal wrote this, g.q. magazine you continue to insult half of your readers who are conservatives by assuming they are racists. hash tag unprofessional. >> here's another. i'm glad i no longer get you. >> g.q., maybe you ought to
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now more than $18 billion in debt. and last year the budget deficit hit $380 million. but they're not alone. outside of detroit ten other american cities have filed for bankruptcy since 2008. so is this trend sure to continue? and what can other cities do to avoid these fiscal pitfalls? here with us now to weigh in is the author of a brand-new book "so much to do." richard ravage.ç richard, good morning to you. >> pleased to be here. >> we see this all across the country. it's not just detroit. it's a lot of towns and states that borrow way more money than they could possibly pay back. >> that unfortunately is the case. the reason new york city almost went bankrupt in 1975 is for the previous seven or eight years it borrowed to cover its deficits, just as it is perfectly okay to borrow to buy a home.
but it doesn't work if you have to keep borrowing to pay for your dinner. that's what got new york into trouble and that's what's getting a lot of other cities into trouble. but the fundamental underlying reason for it is that there's an enormous fiscal squeeze. retirement expenditures and health care expenditures are rising a lot faster than revenues. and federal budget cuts add states face. >> in the last year or so there have been some cities, including detroit -- and i know you can't specifically talk about the detroit situation because you're helping them out. but there have been other states that have suggested we need to turn to the federal government. and they need to bail us out. back in 1975 essentially new york city got kind of a federal bailout. we -- we, the federal government -- lent new york city a whole bunch of dough to dig themselves out of the hole. what about going forward now? you've got to figure in the back of some people's mind, like california, illinois,
they're all thinking if things get reallyç bad, we can turn to the feds. >> the feds have turned down california at a point a couple of years ago when they were in the most serious shape. i don't think that's forthcoming. what happened in new york in 1975 was the crisis started in may, at least that's when it became visible. the state of new york stepped forth, did a lot of things to help the city of new york, took over a lot of functions, paid a lot of costs. we had a governor who was brilliant politically and brilliant financially. and as a consequence, even though jerry ford in october said what the daily news characterized as ford to city: drop dead. a very famous line which sort of rattled the white; @&c@ house. and a month later gerry ford agreed to a loan.
and that was a loan that never cost the federal government a dime. they charged 100 basis points more than their cost of money and they were paid back immediately. spaeup -- >> that's good. of course the country is in much different financial straits. we have a debt of trillions. check out his book "so much to bear." coming up, a story we've been following. dozens of veteransç died waiting for care at a v.a. hospital. captain pete hegseth is here to talk about denying those deadly secrets. he got a d in biology. his parents say it's the school's fault. now they're suing the school. what? that story is coming up. ♪ ♪
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students forced to pay to attendç their own graduation? u.c. berkeley grads have to fork over ten bucks for their commencement address delivered by nancy pelosi. the administration says the money pays for food, flowers, snacks. a maryland family suing their kid's school saying it is their fault he got a "d" because teachers didn't give him enough attention. the family says their son can't get into college now. thanks, teachers. >> it's been more than a week since the disturbing report, 40 veterans may have died while on a secret waiting list for primary care appointments at aç phoenix v.a. now lawmakers are demanding
answers, but the hospital director denies knowing anything saying no secret waiting list has been identified internally. we still have not seen the list of the 40 deaths. we have not seen these documents. veterans groups now demanding action. and here to explain is c.e.o. of concerned veterans for america and fox news contributor pete hegseth. good morning, pete. is this just another scandal similar to nose in the obama administration where you investigate yourself and then you of course don't find anything? or are you buying the argument there? >> the good old internal investigation. they dusted that one off again. that is exactly what this is. the folks that have identified this have multiple sources. we've seen e-mails between the directors and others referring to this second list. there is a real investigation,ç i.g. investigation, g.a.o. found similar problems. this is going to come to light. when it does, i don't know if it is going to be exactly 40 veterans that died waiting on a secret list but there are going to
be names and it is going to be specific and it will be clear. if we waited for o.j. simpson to cough up the old bloody glove we would have waited forever. this is their example. they are going to block as long as they can and hope we stop paying attention. >> allegations are quite startling involves screen grabs, printing those out, sending that information to washington, the paper copy, shredding documents, not ever hittingç save so appointments were never made. those are the allegations. the physician there, who is retired now, is saying i'm standing by what i said the first go round. so what are we going to see from sharon helman? should she lose her job to this? this is not the first time she's been under fire. >> she should lose her job from it. we've seen fleeing the scene not wanting to talk to reporters. when she did she said there is not an internal investigation. she doesn't want to talk about it. she should be fired. the v.a. secretary should
be fired. the problem is within this administration no one is held accountable. even if sharon helman was to be fired they would knee two performance reviews and even then they could probably only demote her. the problem at v.a. is no accountability because no ->> are they banking on groups like yours backing down? >> if they are counting on groups like ours backing down they are counting on the wrong thing. there is legislation in the house of representatives called the v.a. management accountability act which would empower the v.a. secretary to fire poor performers like sharon helman. this is not the first facility that she has been at the helm of where there was a coverup. they covered up the number of suicides in spokane, washington. without legislation where you can fire badç apples, poster children like sharon
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farm in southern minnesota. it is throwback thursday, folks. you know what that means. >> that is where? that's in kansas? >> no, that'sç minnesota. >> were you on vacation? >> no. aunt mimi lived on a farm and we lived two towns over. what's interesting is the car on the right which was our family car, my mom accidentally drove over my sister when she was a year and a half old. she turned out fine. she opened up the car door while my mom was backing up, and she rolled under the tire. >> so it was her fault? >> pretty much, yeah. >> oh, my goodness. >> but she was fine. she was in the hospital for aç day. >> imagine what your mom went through. >> i know. brian, take a look at you. >> are you the crying baby? >> i'm the crying baby. that was my older brother,
jim. clearly there was a dress code in my childhood. put on your bow tie. you may have to close a deal today. >> maybe you didn't wear one because you couldn't tie it. >> i looked at the size of my neck and bust out crying. i cried through almost every picture. i had a tough youth. i had to do just about all the chores and a lot of the bills. >> brian, that is not you too, is it? >> no. i think we have a brand-new picture. >> i didn't have a baby picture to send from my phone but that was me, tçee ball. >> she's got a bat and a mitt. she comes to play. >> you might as well make the catch. >> since it is throwback thursday, we'd love to see your baby pictures, e-mail
them to friends@foxnews.com. you can put them on facebook or twist, but the best way is get them to us by e-mail. >> show us what you look like now and what you looked like then. >> when you ask for now, you don't mean standingç there in your pajamas or worse. >> show us what you look like roughly now and what you looked like then. >> do we have one for heather too? >> here it is. that is me. two or three years old there, i think. that was at a marsh in wisconsin. >> that a bebe gun? >> one of those little pop guns. years ago. they used to have a cork in the end. i was with my grandfather. we were actually hunting that day. he used to take me to the marsh with his dog. >> it hraopbdz like -- it kind of looks like your pants are camo. >> flower pants. that's what you do. when you go hunting, you wear pants with flowers on
them. >> so much fun to do these. >> i have news to bring you. 35 minutes after the hour.ç toronto's cac smoking mayor back on mayor. new video reportedly showing rob ford smoking crack in his sister's basement. he announced he's heading to rehab. his spokesman said ford is finally ready to deal with his drug problems. he has a heisman troe ni and now a rap sheet. florida police say jamis winston walked out of a store with crab legs and cow fish. heç says he forgot to pay pore it. he has now been suspended. he has to do i 20 hours of community service and repay that money. could new sanctions in russia over the crisis in ukraine scrub awry with the
space station. an official statement says i suggest the u.s. delivers its astronauts to the space station with a trampoline. it's not likely russia will suspend the service. nasa pays them more than $60 million a person to get up to space because, you know, we basically don't have our own program. >> in six months we could do it. >> another story, a softball game going to the dogs. it is in the middle of a western oregon university game. a dog runs on to the field, steals a glove out of the player's hand. he drops it and thenç steals another glove. the game is put on hold. how cute is that? finally the dog was cornered, taken away and the dog left the field. hopefully with a bone or something. a little crafty, sneaky dog there. >> i wish he would have eaten my homework. incredible new images out
of pensacola, florida. nearly two feet of rain turning this road to a raging river. >> the same storm in maryland where a sink hole the sizeç of a city block opened up sucking up at least ten cars pushing them on to freight tracks. the good news, nobody was hurt much >> here's more good news. she's back. hey, maria. >> good morning. good to be here in new york. the storm system still on the move. i want to show you some of these rainfall totals because they are incredible across parts of alabama and the state of florida, many areas seeing over 17 or even over 18 inches of rain. how much rain fell in just a short amount of time are also incredible. parts of pensacola saw more than five inches of rain in just one hour. that is why we did have such extreme flooding out there and are continuing to see the flood threat in
places across florida and georgia and alabama. across parts of the u.s. you could still beç looking at more rain and some of the storms could produce severe weather. the storm is exiting but we have the threat of severe weather. we want to remind everyone what happens if you are caught in your car during a flash flood, an image so common with this storm system we've seen across parts of florida and alabama. they sell window hammers. these window hammers, what they're used for is to break windows of your car so if you happen to get caught in a flash flood this is a tool that could save your life. a window hammer, you canç buy it at many retail stores. that could be a lifesaver across many of these states. make sure to have one of those if you know there is a storm system headed your way that could produce flash flooding or if you live in a flood-prone area. let's head back inside. >> good advice. if you are in a flooded car, you might have to break the window.
>> thank you, maria. >> let's talk movies. >> the amazing spider-man is back, action, fantasy and super hero we love swings into theaters this weekend. >> you know what it is i love about being spider-man? everything. >> all right. let's step into the fox light with michael tammero who had a chance to sit down with the cast to talk spider-man. >> summerç officially kicks off with this big budgeted action-packed sequel to the amazing spider man. it stars andrew garfield, emma stone and jamie foxx. we sat down with the cast over the weekend and asked what it was like to be part of the sequel. >> what was it like getting back into the spider suit? >> amazing because i'm not going to get to be spider-man forever, you know, so i'm trying to just
enjoy it as much as possible while i get the opportunity to. >> to me, when you're reading the comics, part of what makes spider-man great and ever long lasting was theç emotional domestic part of it. pete and his girlfriend and his relationship with aunt may and these relationships that are really relatable. that's at the heart of spider-man. that is what as a film maker i'm most intrigued by. >> there are so many different elements to the story. an emotional or visual feast for everybody in this movie. i think there's lots of stuff to take away. >> part of the joy of this movie is watching the chemistry between emma stone and garfield who are a real-life couple. you can watch more on inthefoxlight.com and guys you can follow me on twitter. >> thank you. 20 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up on "fox & friends," a warning for
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joining us is fox news senior judicial analyst andrew napolitano. judge, wh@d is the pweflt way to -- best way to get the facts? >> the answer to both questions you asked, is it time for the justice department to appoint a special counsel and is it time for congress to do more? the answer to both questions is the same. profoundly yes. i'll tell you why. i watched karl rove on o'reilly last night and reread the e-mail and karl said a profound thing. having been there, having worked in the white house, having worked for a president wh build a wall around themselves because the federal law prohibits federal employees except the president and vice president themselves from engaging in politics. hear me out. if the e-mail that ben rhodes sent made its way to the political campaign -- remember, this is at the height of the president's reelection campaign. at this point it looks like mitt romney is at least even with the president soç the president's people are running scared.
if that campaign was intended for and sent by mr. rhodes, if that e-mail was intended for and sent by mr. rhodes, that is a felony, a violation of what's called the hatch act which is a federal statute that prohibits all federal employees except two from engaging in politics on the job. those two are the president and vice president. not anybody who works for them. that would be determined by a special counsel. the justice department will never dig deep enough on one of its own for that. >> if you have to appoint a special prosecutor, is that going to happen with theç valerie plame situation when president bush's attorney general said i can't do the investigation. and president bush said this weird thing. he told everybody to cooperate, and they did. now you have a situation, a very similar situation, different incident. how do we get to the bottom of this? >> if attorney general holder will not appoint a special prosecutor, you're not going to like the answer to this. i don't like the answer and people watching this are not going to like the answer, i think.
if the attorney general won't do so and the president won't order him, there is no way to compel him. >> what could the house do? >> the house of representatives could stop having politicians ask questions of the people that know about this and hire a serious trial lawyer with great cross-examination experience. i'll suggest a name. mike chertoff. michael chertoff, former secretary of homeland security, former special advisor, form federalç judge, one of the greatest prosecutors in our era, he knows how to ask questions. believe me, brian, hillary clinton is not going to be able to make speeches when mike chertoff is cross-examining her. >> will he have subpoena power to make people come? >> yes. he won't have the power to indict, which a special prosecutor would. but they would have the power to expose, to compel answers. and believe me mike chertoff, there are others, he's the best known, knows how to ask questions. >> are we overstating what has come down the pike and been exposed or do you think this is a major move
point in the benghazi case and i was disappointed at jay carney's efforts to hide that yesterday. >> right and he was c.c.'d on that memo. judge, thanks so much. coming up straight ahead, look at this one. one of these people is faking how they feel. who do you think it is? we'll show you how to spot a liar. he dishes out love to anyone trying to make money in the straupt business. business. -- in the restaurant business. >> you guys are wimping out. >> john tapper is here now taking on a brand-new challenge. he'll tell you about it.
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john besh and another one. we look to apply our resources to diamonds in the rough. unlike "bar rescue" where i'm going in to rescue someone, these are people we want to have a longer term investment relationship with. >> you can't bite their head off. >> no, i can bite a finger or two off, but i want to keep their head intact. >> you want to put them through stress test to see if they're worthy of your capital? >> yes. it's really called an invest test. there are five criteria. market potential and four others. we put them all together. it's quite deliberation between the partners. we go at it. there is two views to every situation. >> we've all been frustratessed at our favorite restaurants closes. but what's the key to having a successful business? it's repeat customers, right? how do you get them?
>> it's what i would call in one word a connection. you got it connect with your customers. you connect physically, through music, is one powerful way. you connect through products and most importantly with your staff. if your staff doesn't build relationships with their guests, then the long-term potential of your business is pretty bleak. you go to bars you know, your family has been in the business. you go to the bars where you're known. cheers, where everybody knows your name. >> sure. and you were telling us when you came in about what lousy weather we've had because you're shooting upcoming episodes. you're essentially pitting two different restaurants, a facility out in new jersey against one in williamsburg, new york. at the end of the episode, are you going to invest money in one of them, both of them, maybe none? >> any of the three. >> really? >> we could choose to invest in both. we could choose to invest in just one. we could choose to invest in neither. we really are look at this as
independent investment opportunities. if one of the three of us doesn't want to invest, then we don't. getting the tel aviv us to agree, it's not so easy. >> i look at the apprentice, you're the personalities behind this. you know what makes me feel good about this? this is fundamental capitalism. it's entrepreneurs and shows america watches you because they have an interest in this. we're getsing an education while being informed and entertained. >> i agree 100%. bars are great small businesses. i'm an advocate for small at the end of the day, we're and we're fighting for 90% of businesses in america family owned. so that's who we're fighting for. >> it's that family dynamic that a lot of people love. watch the new show on spike tv. thank you very much. >> good to be here. coming up, a massive explosion at a jail overnight.
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more from that press secretary and that sparring session, verbal, coming up shortly. and one of these people is faking how they feel. who do you think it is? the woman on the left or the person on the right? who is faking it? we're putsing our skills to the test, brian and me, to figure out how to spot a liar. thursday is always better with friends. i'm telling the truth. >> hi, everybody. i'm huey lewis, stand by for the news. >> since it's national honesty day, we're making sure everybody knows how to keep everybody on. >> you're going to test us? >> right. 'cause i cannot tell a lie. >> thank you, martha washington. because of the two women we saw in the video, one was faking it. you're going to -- i couldn't figure it out. it will be good. >> it will. right now we're going to heather nauert. >> we're following a story now that's come out of the south.
there is a gas explosion and it rocks a jail in florida, leaving two inmates dead this morning. more than 100 prisoners and correction officers have now been hurt and many taken out of the jail on stretchers. this happened in pensacola, florida. it rattled homes three miles away. we don't know why the what caused that explosion. but there has been a lot of flooding in that area. that brings us to this next story. it is the storm that just will not quit and the pictures we are getting in are simply unbelievable. let's start in florida where that rewill not attention rain caused -- rewill notless rain caused roads to collapse. that truck managed to make it out alive. in mobile, alabama, firefighters had to carry this woman to safety. she became strand in her car in flood waters. then take a look at this.
this is a little girl in a kayak in her living room. that house under two feet of water. we'll check in with maria later for the latest on the weather. other news now, today marks three years since we killed osama bin laden. now a new state department report shows that al-qaeda is becoming moremrñ?ñ?ñ?ñ?ñ? aggre. there was more than 40% jump in terrorist attacks between 2012 and 2013. the report also naming iran as a major supporter of terrorism. okay. a nice story. an adore adorable bear cub named boo boo. he wandered into a shopping center. he was taken to a nearby1lñ?ñ?ñl hospital. wildlife officials took some fur and put it in a trap for his mama bear to try to reunite them. in the meantime, he will live at a rehab center where he will be cared for. kind of a nice story. he's looking for his mom.
>> unlike honey boo boo. different boo boo, right? >> yeah. >> all right. thank you very much. >> yesterday we told you about judicial watch suing the government to get these documents on what really happened on september 11, 2012. to find out the communications in the white house, to see there was a skewing of the truth, a spinning of the facts as it relates to what we saw susan rice say, which was a flat out falsehood on 9-14 of 2012. so these documents are exposed, at which time it becomes abundantly clear that there was a lot of spinning of the truth and there was a concerted effort to send a certain message through susan rice to get people essentially off the trail that indeed al-qaeda perpetrated the killings of four americans on 9-11. and that, the anger was high. the emotions went through the roof because the press corps in my opinion, was saying for two years, you have not been telling us the truth. and now we're sitting here look
at documents we've been asking for that you had to be sued to cough up. >> yeah. they're pressing jay carney on this who was copied on the e-mail, along with david plouffe , and about a dozen of president obama's closest confidantes. so yesterday even the mainstream media, jonathon karl pressing him pretty hard. listen. >> you knew full well it was susan rice primarily was going to be asked about that attack, terrorist attack on a u.s. consulate in benghazi. she witness on the shows and she said that the attack in benghazi was rooted in protests over internet video. we now know that was not true -- >> i would point you to what mike morell has said repeatedly in testimony about the creation of these talking points. >> just last month, when he heard that, he said that's not something our analyst said. now he said it came from the
white house. right? >> john, no. you're wrong. if you look at that document, that document that we're talking about today was about the overall environment in the muslim world. >> okay. so there is jay carney talking points memo was not about benghazi. good try, jay, because up at the top of it, it says the topic, benghazi. jonathon karl was not the only person from the mainstream media who asked really hard questions. like we said, for over a year, those people have been lied to, the reporters and whatnot. keep in mind, last year the white house released what they said was a complete set of the documents. and then it turns out there was this. because so many things had been redacted, had been crossed out. so it looks like there was a cover-up because something was unclassified, then they unclassified it. sounds like the white house
lawyer who did that. then it was all about ultimately a conspiracy to change the topic, blame the video, not the fact that it was terrorism as well. you know, here at fox, some of our critics have said, why are you covering that? there is no there there. this proves there is some there there. lindsey graham has been criticized as well. and he responded to that last night on "special report". >> my response is that if i am doing something wrong for political reasons, i should have egg on my face and i should be punished by the people in south carolina. if what he is saying is a bold faced lie and that i'm correct that this administration hid the truth from the american people about a coordinated terrorist attack 'cause they were more worried about the president's reelection than telling the truth to the american people about why four people died, they need to be held accountable. when i wanted to get to the bottom of gitmo, i was a hero. when i challenged the torture policies of the bush administration 'cause i had been
a military lawyer, i was doing the country a service. you've got americans in harm's way as i speak tonight. many of them in uniform and throughout the foreign service feel like they've been let down by their government and the colleagues that serve their country that their death has been dishonored and what happened was distorted for political reasons. if for no other reason, somebody needs to be held accountable about lying for those who died. >> and why they were never rescued and why no one has ever been brought to justice. can you imagine there is some other communication that reveals why rescue operations were never put into play. >> this story is largely been called something that fox news channel covers, just a fox story. and there are a couple different schools of thought on why the mainstream media hasn't been covering it. have they not been covering it because they don't think it's a story anymore, that there is no scandal there? are they not covering it because the american people aren't interested in it? or are they doing it because
they are trying to protect the president or trying to protect hillary clinton should she try to run, which all indications are she will? so are we going to start to see more of this or is this going to continue to be something that we have to press here at fox news channel? >> i think a lot of the mainstream media has to pick up the ball and they did yesterday. let's see if they follow through, if their bosses let them cover the story. meanwhile, speaking of bald face lies, it sounds like the university of california-san diego has figured out some sort of technology or something like that to tell whether or not somebody is in pain and ultimately lying. >> right. so this is a. >> thing to do at work, if your co-worker is trying to say no, i wasn't the one who broke the printser. or if your kid is saying, i'm hurt or i'm sick, i can't go to school and they're grimacing in pain. take a look at this. >> i got to pick out who is lying? >> the guy on the left or right
is really not feeling well. >> one of them is faking it. >> one guy is laughing. >> one guy is kind of gritting his teeth. i'm going to go with the guy on the right. >> what's the question? >> who is faking it? >> well, according to the study, the one who is really in pain is this guy. researchers say notice how his mouth is tight and raised. this guy -- >> that was real. i was right! the guy on the right was faking it. >> when someone is faking their pain, they open their mouth at regular intervals. so next time there is like a foul in basketball or something and the player goes oh, oh, now we know. >> there was a problem with people taking diets in soccer. >> i think the nba has other problems -- >> i'm not sure. >> it has to do with open mouths. >> the results in the study are showing 50% of humans are able
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all right. if former florida governor jeb bush, pictured there, doesn't run for president and new jersey governor chris christie backs out as well, who would wall street support? how about that woman right there, hillary clinton? according to a new report, gop donors would prevalenten over ted cruz or rand paul in 2016. really? let's talk now to fox business senior correspondent, charlie gasparino. you know how wall street works. is that right, she's number three behind those two? >> yeah. if you had a polling of the top wall street guys, she would be number three behind those two. we should point out, this is politico's thesis. i don't necessarily agree with this. i think if rand paul and ted cruz showed they could beat her f the polls were tight, a lot of wall street guys would support them because they wants less government, less regulation, the type of stuff that they don't like, that hillary, while she was working with barak obama
pushed. that's the big thing. is the taint of barak obama enough to force money in big business? i think politico is calling it too early. >> that's what they do, just to generate buzz. we're talking about it right now. but who does wall street like best? >> i think they like jeb or christie. i don't think christie is going to run. i think the traffic jam will hurts him. i ran into jeb the other night. he sounds like he's running. it was at a charity event. i walked up to him and it was funny, before i could get something out, i basically said, what's happening? and he said nothing is happening. nothing is happening. he was all nervous. like it sounds like he didn't want to announce it right there. >> he wants to save it to come over here to "fox & friends." but you just talked a little bit about if hillary runs. i mean, we were just talking about benghazi. forget about the white house. they got a lot of explaining to
do. but so does she regarding benghazi and to your points, she's got to explain why she has so whole heartedly embraced the president's policies, which led touts gdp yesterday of .1? >> there is a taints with barak obama right now. not just the business communities. his poll numbers are lousy. i think it was two weeks ago i was saying she has to decide whether she's going to run and she knows her biggest challenge is overcoming the obama economic legacy. the economy could be really -- by the way, economic cycles run in seven years. yes, we've had a lousy recovery, but we still had a recovery. suppose in a year from now, six months, the economy starts going negatively. we had a .1% gdp prints. >> that's as good as it got. >> and she's got to run on that. >> if hillary does not run. some are suggesting elizabeth and wall street loves her.
>> they shouldn't be calling it. they don't like her. >> why not? >> she was for all those massive regulations, that new consumer protection agency she pushed. let's face it, she's maybe to the left of the president. >> and that's hard to do. >> our mayor comrade. charlie does join us on thursday and it's #throwbackthursday. charlie, tell us about five-year-old you there. where are you? >> in my mother's apartment in the bronks. you can tell, there is the couch with the plastic on it. >> are you wearing black socks? >> black socks. i'm channeling my inner elliott spitzer rights there. >> let me get this straight. we're putting a picture of you on television in your underwear? >> you put it on. not me. they asked me for a picture. >> you gave us the picture! >> no, i showed you the picture and you chose to put it on.
>> you were an adorable baby. >> thank you. not a lot of people say that. >> wearing black socks. that's funny. go to the beach now in your black socks. thank you very much. coming up, college kids forced to pay for their own graduation per head. the speaker, nancy pelosi. we'll explain. and he's a famous country singer, but he still understands the value of a dollar and what hard work is like. josh turner is here this morning. good morning to you, josh. ♪ ♪ chico's effortless shirt. play in it. work in it. go wild in it. do everything but wrinkle in it. the perfect fitting no-iron effortless shirt in 4 styles and 31 colors and prints. visit the shirt boutique, only at chico's and chicos.com. (announcer) from the company that invented litter, comes litter re-invented. (woman) hey! toss me that litter!
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family and the country music star joins us right now. he's got a new book out called "man stuff." josh turner, what is "man stuff"? >> you know, first of all, the title came from my second son, colby, the one on my shoulders there. he and i were actually headed to my cabin in south carolina one year and my wife, jennifer, looked at him and said, what are you and daddy going to do at the cabin? and he said, we're going to do man stuff. that's where the title came from. but in spite of the title, this book i think is for anybody and everybody because it's full of life lessons and experiences a lot of auto buy graphcal stuff that i feel i've become a better man from. i tell people all the time that it's easy to be a male, but it's a lot harder to be a man. >> yeah. >> one thing i love about you when i saw you in there in the
make-up room, as soon as i heard your voice, it's so recognizable. but what i love is that song, you're talking about being your man to your wife. >> rights. >> how important is that in the world you live in on stage, in the spotlight? >> well, i'm pretty blessed 'cause my wife is actually a member of my band. so we travel the country together. our boys travel with us. >> it's cheaper that way, too. >> yeah. absolutely. i tell her she gets paid pretty well. there is a chapter in the book about encouraging men to not only love your wife, but to learn your wife and to really know her. like i say, there is a wide variety of topics that i cover in this book. there is a lot of humor and a lot of deep stuff that i normally wouldn't share from stage. >> explain how you learn your wife. what does that mean? >> just we opened up with
"timeless love" and i talk about how that is about quantities time. when you a good amount of time with somebody that you love and that you care about, you really get to know them. you really know their ins and outs, strengths, weaknesses. that's when you really develop a strong relationship with somebody is when you learn that person. >> as i mentioned before, fame and fortune changed us. we're much more selfish. has it changed you? >> it has. it's been an incredible journey for me. i think like it's given may platform to do things like this and get my voice out there. but yeah. from my very first hit it allowed me to buy my first house and this changed me personally and professionally. >> jays robertson wrote your forward. he's the older brother. everyone thinks he's taking orders from his younger brother. why is he for effect for this forward? >> -- perfect for this forward? >> he's from "duck dynasty." even before i met jayce, i felt
we were kindred spirits, then it was like we were brothers and kind of wild. i felt like he would be a great guy to write the forward because he and i spent a little time together before this book thing came about. and he did a great job. he nailed it. >> all right. you're on the book tour right now. what else do you got cooking? >> i've been in the studio for the last i don't know how many months work on a new record. i'm about nine songs in to that. we're all over the country this year. everybody can go to joshturner joshturner.com to see our tour schedule. >> could you guys do a duet, you and anna? >> we could work something up. >> no, i mean right notify -- ♪ baby lock the door and turn the lights down low ♪ ♪ and music on the soft and low ♪ ♪ baby we ain't got no place to go ♪ ♪ . >> she quit on me.
>> i don't have all the words there. >> that's the man and woman stuff. check out the book called "man stuff." thank you very much. >> thank you. >> cool jacket. >> thank you. you want it? >> yeah. you mind? >> according to you, you can afford it. you're rich. >> he is selfish. look at that. coming up, we're switching gears. devastating floods sweeping across the country. up next, maria molina is going to show you how to survive a flash flood if you get caught in your car. she did and find out what you should do. >> then he was on our show yesterday talking about future trends like space travel. remember that? wait until you find out what he did once he left our set. it's pretty messed up, shows a lack of character. he didn't think we are on twitter as well. we are. you, my friend are a master of diversification.
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taking victoza with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. the most common side effects are nausea, diarrhea, and headache. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. if your pill isn't giving you the control you need, ask your doctor about non-insulin victoza. it's covered by most health plans. we've got a fox news alert. a gas explosion rocked a florida jail leaving two dead and injured more than 100. massive flooding in the area. as of now, the cause is unknown. jonathan serrie is live on the scene. tell us what's going on there.
>> reporter: yeah. absolutely. the atf in florida fire marshal are on scene to determine the cause of this explosion. if you look at the building behind me, the county jail, you can see visible damage there from the massive explosion that central time. again, the cause unknown. however, based on the preliminary investigation, local officials believe that it may be related to extensive flooding in this area. there was water on the ground floor of the jail here from a massive storm system that came through here earlier in the week, dumping heavy amounts of water in this part of florida. two inmates are dead. officials say 100 to 150 other inmates were injured, or 100 to 150 others were injured. that includes both inmates and corrections officers. at the time there were a total of 600 inmates inside the building. about 400 men, 200 women. those who were injured were
brought to area hospitals. knows who were not injured have been brought to other detention facilities. authorities went into the building and swept it three times so they believe that all of the inmates and all of the staff are accounted for. but now the question is what caused this explosion in the central booking facility of the county jail. again, the atf and florida fire marshal investigating that at this hour. back to you. >> i bet they are. jonathan with the very latest, thank you. >> a lot of breaking news this morning. incredible new images out of pensacola, florida. nearly two feet of rain turning this roadway into a river, washing away cars and stranding drivers. >> the same storm pounding baltimore, maryland r -- where a sink hole the size of a city block opened up. ten in all cars wound up on a freight line. thankfully, nobody hurt because nobody was inside any of the vehicles. >> get this, more rain on the way. maria molina here right now, who
is following these storm, is finally back in new york city. great job. tell us what's happening now. >> we expect several more inches of rain across parts of northern florida, georgia, and parts of alabama. these are areas that were hit hard by flooding. i want to mention that the same storm system that produced the flooding along parts of the gulf coast is the one responsible for the tornado outbreak earlier this week and also over the weekend and that tornado that moved through mayflower, arkansas, has been confirmed as an ef-4, with winds close to 200 miles per hour. so that's why those images that we saw out of that area just so did he have stating and heart breaking. we expect more rain across parts of florida today with the storm system slowly winding down. take a look at some of these rain totals. we have seen more than 18 inches of rain across parts of alabama and also in florida with more rain expected today. we could be seeing that flood threat aggravated because the ground is saturated and farther off toward the north across the northeast, by the way, we saw some rainfall records being set
in la guardia. over five inches of rain. we expect some storms with the storm system as well, thunderstorms that could produce some isolated severe weather out there along parts of the east coast. keep that in mind. of course, we also wants to point out, with the flood threat in place, what happens if you're caught in your car during a flash flood and you're forced to break a window? some of the tips that are recommended for people is that you break side windows, not the fronts and rear window. that's because it has smaller surface area so that could really help you possibly save your life if you are caught in that. and we've seen these images out of florida, the florida panhandle of cars being swept away by flash flood. try to break a side window and not the fronts or rear. let's head back inside. >> thank you. ♪ ♪
♪ ♪ >> do you remember that guy? he was on our show yesterday around this time. michael moyer. he is one of the guys, a writer at scientific american. we had him on yesterday to talk about futuristic trends and he talked about gizmos in the future that will make life easier. >> stuff with chromosomes. >> you know what? it was an interesting segment. >> i thought we had a nice chat before the segment aired during the commercial break and afterward and all that. but apparently he didn't quite see it that way bus as soon as he left the couch, he gets out of the building, he starts saying things like this on twitser. went on "fox & friends" this morning. kind of feel like i should take a shower. >> okay. so that was -- >> i believe you could take that as a negative. >> yeah. >> i think that was pretty much a hit. >> so that seemed weird to us. but then he kept tweeting. he also attacked our make-up artist. he wrote, everybody is in a bubble. make-up girl, where you think
the plane is? me puzzled, bottom of the ocean. her, no. it's on a military base somewhere. that's a little off. >> here she is trying it make him look better than ever, watch the sleep out of his eyes. now he's commenting and making her look like an idiot on social media or trying to where everybody has crazy theories with where this plane is. we heard them a lot more on other networks. >> we can't find the plane. by the way, should we tweet out if small talk doesn't go in the direction that you want? now you have to mock people that are trying to be friendly to you? so is that the message we should learn here? it didn't end there. it was time for the moyer family to get involved. mrs. moyer, who sounds like a delight, says this: wow. at "fox & friends," that's where you can reach us. a host kilmeade's reply to, i guess that's her husband's handle, mention of new earth-like planets, do they have
football? i was kidding! i wondered if they had football! >> apparently -- >> we've got the clip. it was a joke! look at this. >> they're launching a new satellite in 2018 that's designed explicitly to find earth-like planets. >> do they have football? >> we don't know yet. >> they might have water, but certainly have football. >> i really thought you were serious on that one. i think he didn't know how to react and felt like a dummy. >> he even laughed. but what's curious, though, is it looks like he has a problem with fox. we invited him on. so if he had a problem, why did he come on? clearly it was just to promote himself and maybe his magazine as well. but #classy, we put him on. we've nice conversation and then he stabs us in the back. we thought we would give you the back story of what happenedçñ?ñn
michael moyer of "scientific american" came on yesterday. >> we should get up to his standard on american scientific is no small talk, if you don't have a good theory about the plane, don't even talk to him. if you have something to say about another planet, don't bring up sports. that's what i learned from it. by the way, if you think that he's right on the money and you give him tremendous thumbs up for courage for tweeting once you left after a million plus people took in and talked about your magazine for the first time since you put it together, then congratulate him. but if you don't like the way he handled his appearance here, start tweeting at him. let him know how you feel because if he feels as though he doesn't like the show, he's insulting the viewers as well as the anchors. >> the bone that he had to pick with fox, he said was that he wanted to come on here and talk all about climate change. our producers decide what we air. >> we talk about climate change all the time. the things he talked about were interesting. robots driving your cars in the future, replacing unhealthy
genes with healthy genes so you can cure diseases. things that actually matters. >> we know that some day the earth will be so hot, only row botts will survive. >> okay. >> of course we care about all of it. >> anyway, we just thought we'd give you the back sto happened with that guy from scientific american. all right. now let's turn over to patriotic american who has got the news. >> thanks, steve. >> you bet. good morning. let's talk about some other stuff that's going on. toronto's crack smoking mayor, we vaunts heard from him in a little bit. we've got an update. he's back on crack. there was a new piece of video that surfaced reportedly showing him smoking crack in his sister's basement. he's now announced he's taking a breck from it all and heading back to rehab. his lawyer says that ford is finally ready to deal with his drug problem. we'll keep you posted. listen to this one, students forced to pay in order to attend their own graduation?
uc-berkeley grads had to fork over $10 of their own money to go to their own commencement address that was delivered by nancy pelosi. administrators say the money will pay for things like food, flowers and snacks. but students will not have their names read off at that ceremony. what do you think of that? you can call this -- a bill pushes for baby changing tables to be put in the men's bathrooms. there is also a separate bill proposed that would make changing tables in businesses accessible to men and women. lawmakers say it reflects a change in today's family dynamics. those are your headlines. steve and brian, you were both good diaper changers, right? >> i would like that because they have the family bathroom which is i love to find. but now let men change some diapers. >> absolutely. >> when i was a little girl, my mom always said my father never changed a diaper in his life. my husband is the best. >> here is my trick and this mites work for your kid. relaxed my
children would be if i introduced the knicks, like the p.a. announcer. patrick ewing. and charles oakley. as i introduced them by the time i got to john starks, he would be calm. >> what a great secret. >> okay. >> true story. tweet that. >> coming up on "fox & friends," teen-ager suffers a seizure on the bus. what does the bus driver do? nothing. his outraged mother here next people join angie's list for all kinds of reasons. i go to angie's list to gauge whether or not the projects will be done in a timely fashion and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. now that we're expecting, i like the fact i can go onto angie's list and look for pediatricians. the service providers that i've found on angie's list actually have blown me away.
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cynthia shepherd is here to share that horrifying story. good morning to you. thanks for being with us. >> good morning. >> tell us what happened to your son, andrew. he's in eighth grade, on the school bus and what happened? >> my daughter witnessed him having a seizure and she let the bus driver know and he didn't do anything. he just kept going. >> i know this is hard for to you talk about. thanks for sharing your story. you say he has diabetes and addison's disease, which can cause very low blood pressure and even a coma. what happened next? >> yes. they arrived to the stop and the driver kept insisting she got him off the bus. another child yelled to him that he's having a seizure. he still didn't do anything. by the time my daughter got him to the fronts of the bus, the
driver turned around and looked at him and still told my daughter that they had to get off because it was their stop. >> i understand she tried to get the driver to take the two of them home, thinking that would be a safer location? >> yes. >> what happened is the neighbors came out and started helping. they had to call 911? >> yes. she came out and she brought o.g. to see if he would drink it. my daughter called 911, hand the phone to the neighbors so they could give the correct address to where they were. >> we saw that picture of andrew in the hospital. how is he doing now? is he back at home? >> yes. yes, he is. >> how is he doing? >> he's doing really good now. he's doing really good. >> what is the school saying as you're calling them asking for answers about how on earth this could have happened? >> the school board is not returning any of my calls.
i haven't spoke to them since the day that i reported it to them. so i really don't know because they just keep saying it's under investigation. >> they say that they're investigating. what do you think needs to happen to this bus driver in particular and even for other bus drivers? do they need some sort of education on dealing with situations like this? >> i believe they need medical training, you know, so it doesn't happen again and they're aware of situations like this. when you're having a seizure, you don't move the person, you know. and he made my daughter pick him up and get him off the bus. i believe the driver should be fired. >> wow. thank you for being with us and keep us updated on the story. we're so happy that andrew is doing okay this morning. >> thank you. >> good luck. 49 minutes after the hour now. the clippers owner banned for life for exercising his freedom of speech. now some lawsuitants say even more speech should be
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1/2 million dollars. >> the nba has the right to do that. but what about other forms of free speech? >> now some law students say even more speech should be regulated. so here to crack down on us is john stossel. he says he's not thrilled with the answers he's been gets -- getsing and how america is responding, are you? >> no. people should remember that the nba is a private group and fox can fire us if they don't like what they say and the government is different. so i was upset a couple years back when i asked law students at seton hall, what should be banned to protect people? we have the clip. >> there is no value that comes out of hate speech. >> words have a significant impact and when they're used as weapons, it can become problematic. and i don't think that's what the framers of the first amendment intended. >> this students wants to do ban on political speech by
corporations. >> that's the only speech you hear. they will own the air waves and own all the advertising venues, so they can afford it. corporate speech is not protected. >> the potential is very large for corporations to improperly influence politicians. >> what about the argument words are like bullets, they wound people? >> that's what they were saying. but i think words are words and bullets are bullets and it's important we keep them apart. by the end of it, these students had basically said the bill of rights should say congress shall make no law bridging freedom of speech except for hate speech, corporate speech, hunting, movies and once i said that, they went, i guess we went too far. the instinct to ban. >> absolutely. the troubling aspect is you're talking to future lawyers in that particular thing. >> they're lawyers now. >> they should know in america, what he said was terrible. in america, you have the right to say stupid stuff. >> the answer is more speech. you can fight words with words. can't fight bullets with bullets
as easily without getting hurt. >> how does that play into your theme this weekend? tonight's? >> it's all about speech. what are you allowed to say and what are you not allowed to say? i hope i don't step in the wrong -- >> it's your show, john. you can say whatever you want. >> it's hard to have lou dobbs do the stossel show. >> we'll be watching. thank you. four minutes before the top of the hour. >> coming up, russia not happy with sanctions, so they're telling us take a trampoline to space. we'll explain. >> bounce on this [ male announcer ] v8 v-fusion plus energy.
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i'm an mccoyman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. we have seen roads turned into rivers. but how about a living room turned into a swimming pool and a girl in a kayak? more incredible images from across the country. meanwhile, our white house scrambling to explain the e-mail linking the white house to the benghazi cover-up. boy, it got hot yesterday. >> why did it take a court case for you to release this? >> i can say it again and again and i know you can keep asking again and again. this document was not about benghazi. >> mr. carney, if it wasn't about benghazi, then why was it titled benghazi? rret russia not happy about the sanctions on individuals we puts on them. so they're saying a trampoline is your only way to get into space. >> the bear or the trampoline. >> we're going to send bears into space because it is russian. by the way, according to all reports, mornings are better
with friends. roll the head shots. >> good morning. this is favio. you're watching "fox & friends." >> mornings are better with friends, aren't they? very often we get photo bombed or video bombed because people know that they can come stand right here and wave at the camera. we just got video bombed during the commercial. >> can we see it? >> watch. >> slow motion. he's on the phone. he's coordinating with somebody. >> i'm making a lot of sense. >> i'm trying to pretend like i'm interested in everything -- there he goes. oh, yeah. work it. >> he's on tv twice. >> wow. now everybody knows. >> come on down to 48th and 6th and you can do a fist pump. >> why not? >> we've got a very busy day. we're going to tell you all
about that benghazi cover-up conspiracy thing. it's troubling. right now we turn to heather nauert who has got some really bad news. >> good morning to you. news coming out of florida. this happening overnight. we start with a fox news alert. victimmors are scrambling to try to figure out what caused a gas explosion at a florida jail that left two inmates dead and more than 100 prisoners and corrections officers injured this morning. many had to be taken out of the jail on stretchers. this happened at escambia county jail in pensacola flax fellow. 600 prisoners are being bussed to other jails. this blast rattling homes as far as three miles away. there has been a lots of flooding in the area. that could be to blame for the blast. we will keep you posted as we follow the story. in the meantime, it is the storm that just will not quit. these pictures we're getting in are unbelievable. new video coming from outside
philadelphia this morning. people rescued as the water rose as high as six feet around a bus. then all the way down in florida, because this has been affecting the entire east coast, rerentless rain cause causing a road to collapse. in mobile, alabama, firefighters had to carry this elderly woman to safety. she had become stranded in her car that was in the flood water. check this out. a little girl in a kayak in her living room. the house under two feet of water. boy, so much damage for so many families across the country. today is may day. it's also known as international workers day and here is a look at how the world watches this. tho thousands defy protest bans in istanbul. police using waters cannons and tear gas on the crowd and in cambodia, at least five people hurts.
protesters demanding a higher minimum wage and in bangladesh, garment workers packed the streets demanding the execution of a factory owner whose building collapsed, killing more than 1,000 laborers last year. and another story, could new sanctions on russia over the crisis in ukraine scrub our ride to the space station? a russian official sounding off saying, quote, after analyzing our sanctions against the space industry, i suggests the u.s. deliver its astronauts to the i.s.s. with a trampoline. it's not likely russia will suspend the service. nasa pays them more than $60 million a person to get up to space. and those are your headlines. you know they're talk being may day, when i was a little kid, we always gave flowers to our mom on may day. >> we don't have flowers in america because the winters lasted too long. the flowers are not coming out. >> they are.
>> april showers bring may flowers. >> but not like yesterday. it became cold again. the earth stopped spinning. i don't know what's going on. >> for the guy at scientific america, he's kidding! okay? >> who is heather talking about there? >> the news. >> yeah. >> she was talking about the trampoline. did you want to riff on that? >> yes. for $60 million, we could have taken four trips and built our own rocket. why are we writing checks to them? >> if they need a trampoline, contact jimmy kimmel. >> the big news this morning, we told you yesterday about the smoking gun e-mail, as it's been called. remember the conservative watch group had to sue to get documents about benghazi. apparently in the subject line it does say benghazi and it's basically saying that let's try
spin this whole thing that it's not a policy failure, that it's all -- >> the video. >> sparked by this video. the mainstream media is catching on and starting to realize that where there is smoke there is often fire. jonathon karl pressing jay carney yesterday. >> you knew full well what susan rice was primarily going to be asked about was about that attack. terrorist attack on a u.s. consulate in benghazi. she witness on the shows -- went on the shows and said the attack in benghazi was rooted in protests over internet video. we now know that was not true. >> john, i would point you to what mike morell has said repeatedly in testimony about the creation of the talking points. >> just last months, when he heard that, he said that's not something that our analysts would say. that came from the white house. right? >> john, no. you're wrong. if you look at that document, that document that we're talking
about today was about the overall environment in the muslim world. >> right. so he's saying that what was going on in the muslim world was about the video. unfortunately for him, as anna said, up at the top it said benghazi. so for him to say it wasn't about benghazi, also at one point in the document it says how we're going to work with the libyan authorities to bring justice to those responsible for the deaths of u.s. citizens. okay. the only time that people died in libya, the americans, were with benghazi. look, it's becoming very, very clear, the white house said last year, we've released a complete set of documents. they didn't do that. there was a cover-up, there were things that were unclassified, then classified by the white house lawyers so we couldn't see them. then now that we see them, it looks like there was a conspiracy to convince the american public seven weeks before an election that it was all about the video. it wasn't about the state department not giving the security they needed.
lindsey graham last night on "special report," as passionate as i have ever seen the senator from south carolina, he says clearly when you look at it, a lot of this had to do with actually 100% of it, had to do with getsing barak obama relie elected. >> my response is if i'm doing something wrong for political reasons, i should have egg on my face and i should be punished by the people of south carolina. if what he is saying is a bold faced lie and that i'm correct this administration hid the truth from the american people about a coordinated terrorist attack 'cause they were more worried about the president's reelection than telling the truth to the american people about why four people died, they need to be held accountable. when i wanted to get to the bottom of gitmo, i was a hero. when i challenged the torture policies of the bush administration 'cause i had been a military lawyer, i was doing the country a service. you got americans in harm's way as i speak tonight, many of them in uniform and throughout the
they2*qq' let down by their government and the colleagues that serve their country that their death has been dishonored and what happened was distorted for political reasons. if for no other reason, somebody needs to be held accountable about lying about how those who died. >> congressman chaffetz, senator graham, chaffetz is coming up later, have led the way on this. everyone is ridiculing them saying they're spitting in the wind. there is no there there. the president said there is no talking points. what are you talking about? and now it turns outs there were talking points, there were e-mails and they were withholding them and i think that more than just fox is angry. that's what i saw yesterday. meanwhile, two years ago, at that time there were attacks in the area, there were protests throughout other capitals throughout the middle east and north africa, at which time the president thought it would be a good idea to get on line, puts the tape together, leaning with the secretary of state, and have a message to the people of pakistan.
don't go crazy. we apologize. here is a little video to show you that that bad movie that's out that ridicules islam has nothing to do with america thinks. it costs us $70,000. now that we know that they don't think that, the riots were because of that. think about what we could have done with that money. >> yeah. $70,000 for this video that was the alleged cover-up of the alleged cover-up, this is how far they were going to do this. not only to protect president obama, but to protect then secretary of state. >> because they were doubling down. they had put that out. yeah, it's all about the video. so what do they do? they -- >> put the guy in jail. >> they hired alt those -- all those television stations. hillary clinton said the u.s. has absolutely nothing to do with this video. excepts use it as an excuse. meanwhile, let's talk a little bit about gq, gentlemen's quartersly magazine. curious, apparently they don't like fox and apparently they
don't like conservatives and apparently what they did with one of their columns talking about the guy who soon used to own the l.a. clippers, what they have said is if you are a conservative, you're a racist. >> here is what a tweet said. it said good luck to donald sterling with whatever show he ends up hosting on fox news probably. >> right. that's pretty insulting i would think to not only us, but to you. mickey tweet this, gq magazine, i'm canceling my subscription and his web address at "fox & friends." >> sally says gq has a low i.q. >> and here is a viewer e-mail. g.q. magazine recruited my friend out of high school to model and turned him into a life long drug addict. wow. those are some strong words. really, maybe gq ought to stick to the colorful socks and the pocket squares and hair gel. >> how brilliant is gq?
half the country leans to the right. half to the left. for them to anger half of the country who might buy their stupid magazine, that's just not a good business model. >> whoever is managing their social media account, i wonder how long they're going to have that job. >> i don't know how long i can go with this boycott 'cause i have no idea what to wear on the weekends if i don't have that magazine. >> just wear that. >> okay. >> american scientific or scientific american, he's kidding! he's kidding! >> you guys -- >> coming up on "fox & friends," a warning for anyone who gets manicures. what you need to know about a connection to cancer? >> pay attention, joel. but first, are we about to see another housing crisis? bob massi looks like that. ♪ ♪ fighting constipation by
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if you own a home or you're thinking about buying, consider yourself warned because some of america's biggest banks need your business and they may be back to some of the old tricks that got us all in trouble. joining us to explain what this means to you and your money, fox news legal analyst, bob massi. he's out in vegas, baby. governing to you. >> good morning. >> you know, after so many people had to declare -- this is in the form of a question -- in the aftermath of excessive bankruptcy, foreclosures and destroyed credit what, is happening in the world of lending for the consumer and the homeowner? >> the lenders are crying. the lenders are saying we're just not getsing enough business. people don't have the credit
necessarily to get what they want. so the lenders are crying and what they're doing is they're adapting and they're modifying and they're enticing the homeowner. they're enticing the consumer and buying cars to get back in the game and they're making it easier for them to do it. so once again, we have to be careful as prospective homeowners and consumers to exact plea what they're doing and saying. >> that's a good question. in fact, we've got a graphic to that points. what are the lenders doing now to get the consumer and the homeowner back in the arena to get money from them? >> auto financing, they're doing subprime loans. >> sub prime? are you kidding? >> no. auto financing they're doing. they're basically charging at some points 15, 20% on this money. you have wells fargo and other lenders that are lowering the fico scores down to 600 on fha loans. look, they understand, steve,
the emotion -- i talked about this before and unfortunately, human nature never changes. they want to own. so what do they do? they throw it out there again to the homeowner, prospective homeowner, the consumer saying we're going to make it easier for you to get into it. i want to be clear on something, even though fico scores have been lowered by some of the lenders, they still are requiring, steve, a high percentage, 15, 20% money down if you're going to buy a home. so they're wanting more money down in some cases. but what's important for our just understand what -- when you borrow money, alt they're doing is throwing money at you. what is it costing you? and can you meet the obligation? don't fall back and say it's so enticing, the emotional buy, steve, the opportunity to make money, six, seven years, investment properties in america is what got us, many of us, in a position where we lost so much.
>> and bob, what you're suggesting is what the banks are doing is giving noun people who can't pay it -- money to people who can't pay it back again and that led to a big bubble and where we are today. >> there is a risk. look, if you and i as a responsible citizen, you have to look at the way the economy is in our country, the way unemployment is still is in our country, can you really meet this payment if you hit a bump in the road? if you hit a bump in the road, guys, then you have to look -- i don't buy unless i know if something goes wrong, i can survive. we have to live that way anymore. if you don't and you miss a payment, you do this, the same domino effect is going to happen again. credit gets hit, bankruptcy gets hit, foreclosure happens, repo something of cars, we got back into the same jackpot we did several years ago. >> we got to look out for ourselves because nobody is look out for us. >> we cannot blame anybody anymore. we're more informed than ever
before. >> if you got questions for bob as several people did and we just asked him about it, visit our web site. scroll down and look for that rebuilding dreams section at the bottom of the page. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, president bush gearing up for his annual wounded warriors ride and dr. mark siegle is with them. we'll check in live. and what really happens behind the scenes in washington. >> talk to me. >> what about? >> anything. doesn't quite matter. >> congress, legislature, words like that? >> yeah. exactly. >> one of the stars from beat, mac walsh -- matt walsh is here live
some stories make headlines in the medical world. a brand-new report shedding light on a connection between manicures and cancer. researchers visited 16 different salons in the united states and looked at those u.v. lights used for gel manicures. you know them, steve. they found it could take as many as 24 visits to some salons to reach the point where the light triggers cancer-causing dna damage. take that, marcus allen. and here is another reason to make broccoli parts of your diets. getting enough fiber may be a life saver for people who have had a heart attack. researchers at harvard say extra fiber increased long-term survival rates by 25%. so what would washington be like if our politicians and communication directsors acted like this? >> that was the planet. >> we can do this.
>> you're a did you go person, right? what kind of dog do you have? >> i have a real dog. >> an open secret in washington. >> do you know who is playing golf with? >> who. >> no, no. who? >> you don't know and you want me to find out. >> yeah. >> so funny. how close is the show "veep" mirror what really happens. matt walsh is an actor on the show, good morning. >> you ready for year three? >> yeah. i don't have to do anything. we made it. >> fictional character. it seems awfully real to me. >> according to people in dc, the show is fairly accurate to the way things happen behind the scenes. >> you work for the vice president. >> i'm the communications director for the fictional vice presidents. >> are you suggesting that this is what it's like working for joe biden? >> no. i think it's more about truthfully the humanity, like you're pushing ideals through a system. so it's human people trying to do their best and inevitably they're flawed human beings.
that's my take on it. >> good way to put it. >> americans have a fascination with what happens in politics and washington, d.c we've seen it. but this is funny. how does it keep viewers' attention? why is it season three and hopefully more for you? >> season three, she's running for president. like "west wing" was aspirational and" house of cards" is like conspiracy. i think our show goes for the joke, but it's also a little more realistic. this year the stakes are high because she's bringing in all these consultantses and we're all worried about our jobs. she wants the office so bad, she'll fire anybody. so we're all terrified of losing our position. >> does it scare you that people come up to you and see what it's really like and you have a vice president that's somewhat not ready for the job, so she's going to become president? does that scare you? >> yeah, it's a little disamonthsing when people say your show tackles what's wrong admire -- like i would never be a politician.
i think that's the worst job in the world. >> what would happen if selena myer became president? >> terrible things. nuclear holocaust, budget crisis. >> it's 'cause she's just not up for the job. >> she's not -- she has created that character, would not be a good president. no. >> i love the behind the scenes story. you're on hbo, so you can do some ad libbing there. >> there is some filthy talking. >> there is definitely filthy talk on cam remarks off camera. >> we know elaine benes is funny. so what is it like behind the scenes, when off gel together? >> it's great. we do a lot of improv, so there is great chemistry and we all hang out after the show because we spend a lot of time on the show insulting each other. so it's important to sort of mend that friendship after the show and have a drink and play cards and stuff. >> it is hilarious. my wife and i love the episodes
and my kids are all hooked on it. it airs sunday at 10:30 p.m. eastern time on hbo for the fresh ones. >> or get your friends hbo go number. >> i use kilmeade. >> thank you for saying that. >> i have no idea what you're talking about. >> matt, thank you very much. straight ahead. >> who is that cry baby? it's throw back thursday and we're sharing our baby pictures next. >> i had a lot on my mind. >> devastating floods sweeping the country. up next, maria will be showing us how to survive a flash flood. check her out. ♪ ♪
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28 minutes now before the top of the hour. >> we want to show you video out of pensacola, florida, taken by a drone. you can see homes and cars submerged by nearly two feet of water and more rain on the way. maria molina is following these storm and joins us. good morning. >> hi. incredible images out of that florida panhandle due to the heavy rain. look at some of the rainfall totals across parts of florida and also alabama. they have just been incredible. well over a foot of rain across some of these areas. it's not just across parts of the gulf coast that we've been seeing flooding, but also the northeast. we have set rainfall records across portions of the northeast. look at parts of maryland picking up over seven inches of rain from this storm system. the rainfall rates were also incredible, pensacola picked up over five inches of rain in one hour. several more inches still expected across the southeast. so there is that threat for flooding that will continue. in the northeast, most of the rainfall accumulations will be generally light. a few showers.
thunderstorms possible on parts of the east coast with an isolatessed risk for severe weather. keep that in mind out there. this is the same storm that is responsible for the tornadoes that were produced across so many states over the last several days. i want to mention in mayflower, arkansas, that tornado was confirmed as an ef-4 with winds close to 200 miles per hour and we've seen so many images of flood waters sweeping away cars. we want to give you some tips here because if the unthinkable does happen and you are caught in your car during a flash flood and you're forced to break a window, you want to try to make sure you strike in the center of the window with as much force as possible. that's where it would be easier to break it and also try to break the window where the water is flowing away from the car. not towards the car because then you're looking at the water rushing into your car and also remember if you broke it, there is glass there as well. so that would be another big issue. let's head back inside. >> we should also point out when you just broke that, in that video, you cut up your hand
pretty hard. >> yeah. i used a window breaker. i don't think i could have broken it with my hand by itself. that window hammer really helps people break those windows much easier. so that's something also. throw in your car, keep it in there. >> you were really brave in that segment. thanks. let's turn to heather nauert who joins us now with the very latest on toronto's crack smoking mayor. >> we haven't heard about him as much lately. but we do talk about him when new video emerges. the crack smoking mayor, rob ford, back on crack again. a new video surfaced, reportedly showing him smoking crack in his sister's basement. he's announced he's taking a break and headed to rehab. his lawyer says he's fine low ready to deal with his real drug problem. he has a heisman trophy and national championship and now a rap sheet? a florida state star jameis winston, walked out of a publix
grocery store with $32 worth of crab legs and crawfish. he said he forgot to pay for it. he's now been suspended until he completes 20 hours of community service and he has to repay that money. a rash of possible food poisonings at a conference on food safety. more than 100 people now reportedly getting sick at the food safety summit in baltimore, maryland. state officials are trying to figure out what on earth happened. 1300 people were there from food companies, the government agencies, including the f.d.a. a town is trying to tell a guy in florida, see oleates, alligator. larry miller keeps two pet gators in the backyard of his south daytona home. he's been fined $250 for not having the proper permit to keep them there. >> people has dogs and lizards and cats and i have alligators. >> oh, my. well, the two gators will be
removed from his yard today and taken to gatorland. that's a place. larry plans to buy two acres of land, he says, so he can get his pets back. good for you, larry. >> don't try this at home. >> that was great! >> you belong at gatorland. if you're a gator, that's as good as it gets. today is throwback thursday. tbt. we've been tweeting out our pictureses and you've been sending us yours as well. we're looking for your baby pictureses. >> let's get started. ben looks like heather nauert's picked. >> which one is heather? >> heather is locked and loaded. then you can see the other fellow right there with green underwear. >> there you go. >> he could get a haynes deal
there. >> all right. rick thinks he looks like brian's picture. when you look side by side, you know what? separated at birth. >> that's my brother jim, who clearly had all the clothes in the family. i just got a pullover and i didn't have a neck at that point in my life. i was eating jelly beans with buttser for lunch and dinner. >> and scott in pennsylvania. 33 years later. look at this. we were asking people to send us their pictures when they were kids. then where they are now. that's cool. >> brian, just a moment ago when you said you were -- you didn't have a neck because you were eating jelly beans and buttser, for the guy from that magazine, he was kidding! >> thank you, steve. i appreciate it. he's kidding!
>> just keep in mind. we're just trying to lighten your day. meanwhile, look at this. it's our shot of the morning. carvelle ice cream set up shop on the plaza to celebrate free cone day and getting the inside scoop -- i'm kidding, here is maria molina with a special guest. good morning to you. >> good morning. that's right. today is carvel's free cone day and joining me is scott, the president of the company. scott, why is today free cone day? >> carvel likes to kick off the summer with free cone day. we do this every year, so today from 3 to 8:00 p.m., any guest can come in and get our favorite flairs, vanilla and chocolates, and salty carmel. >> and you have more than 400 franchises across the u.s. today you're also sharing your new flavor, which is salted carmel. we have a cone here ready to go so i can try it. >> what do you think? >> delicious. this is great. so that's what you have going on
today. it's also your 80th anniversary. so you have this cake that you brought here. we have one with steve, elisabeth and brian. here are their photos. thanks for bringing my cake as well. just kidding. but you also have fudgy the whale. why is your mascot a whale? >> so almost 40 years ago, tom carvel invented fudgy the whale as our father's day flavor. it's a favorites of all children. >> and today you're also doing something special. when people go to your stores, they can buy a $2 coupon book and some of the proceeds go to the red cross? >> we'll raise at least $30,000 and guests can buy, for $2, they buy a coupon book worth $20 of value. >> and the red cross currentsly helping in so many states. let's head back inside.
>> you were edging out fudgy the whale. can someone give him a hug or something? >> a great cause. maria, we would like three of the salted carmels in here. just for research purposes. >> in a few minutes. that was some fun. now serious stuff. up next, college students forced to pay to get into their own graduation ceremony. why? the keyneat speaker, nancy pelosi. and president bush gearing up for his annual wounded warriors ride and our very own dr. mark siegle is with him. he was there last year. he's back. we're go live to texas coming up
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good morning. 44 minutes after the hour. quick headlines.a8-éd7]7q9! edition. pay to attend their own graduation? uc-berkeley graduates have to fork over ten bucks to go to their own commencement address delivered by nancy pelosi. administrators say the money pays for things like food, flowers and snacks. and family in maryland suing their kid's school saying it's their fault he got a d because teachers didn't give him enough attention. the family says their son can't get into college now. >> okay. meanwhile, president george w. bush is welcoming 16 wounded veterans and active duty soldiers to his prairie chapel ranch for the fourth annual w 100 k mountain bike ride. joining us from prairie chapel ranch is our own dr. mark siegle.
good morning. you're making a ranch call today. >> exactly, steve. good morning. we're here at the prairie chapel ranch. this is the fourth annual event. we're honoring 16 warriors this year that have been wounded in the iraq and afghanistan campaign. the goal is to honor their resilience, sacrifice, gets them back on the bike, back to regular life. the bush institute now has a military service initiative. i'm joined by christa mars a staff sergeant, wounded in afghanistan by a suicide bomber. actually saw this program a few years ago and it inspired him to join the ride. chris, tell us about this. >> i was laying at walter reed hospital and just turned on fox news and watched you guys riding around and i looked over at my mom and dad and said, i'm going to do this in a couple years. i said next year and they kind of looked at me funny 'cause i was in rough shape. but i'm here now. you are the ones that got me interested in this.
>> how prosecute you wounded? >> suicide bomber. motorcycle bomb. broke both my legs, lot of shrapnel, head trauma, some broken facial bones. >> what about posttraumatic stress? we're featuring that this year and trying to get rid of the stigma attached to it. >> yeah. it's there. a lot of guys have head injuries, the tbi, which has a lot of the same symptoms. it compounds it. as their brain kind of comes back from the tbi, some of the ptsd kind of wears down, too. it's always going to be with a lot of the guys for the rest of their lives. >> this is a colonel and the head of the military service institute at the bush foundation. tell us what your goals are here quickly. >> president bush and the military service initiative wants to honor all 2.6 million post-9-11 vets and their families in the one to 1 1/2 million that will come out by facilitating a successful reintegration. so helping great leaders like chris and the 16 men and women out here today l it's through employment, education, housing,
families, or health and wellness issues like ending the stigma associated with posttraumatic stress. >> guys, as i tell the riders every year, if you see president bush, you're going too fast. you see dr. siegle, you're going too slow. back to you in new york. >> good advice. very nice. >> all right. thank you very much. >> that's such an honor he was watching us at walter reed and back there today. coming up, remember when the president said this about benghazi? >> the whole issue of talking points frankly throughout this process has been a side show. >> okay. brand-new details telling a different story about that side show. so is it finally time for john boehner to call for a special counsel? jason chaffetz has been investigating this and is here next. first we're going to check in with martha mccallum for what's coming up at the top of the hour. good morning. >> good morning. about a half hour from now, congress is going to hear from a new witness in the benghazi case. sources are telling us that this
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we've been talking about it all week. new e-mails blasting a hole in the white house's steer that then ambassador susan rice was just repeating the latest intel when appears on all those sunday shows in the aftermath of the benghazi attacks on 9-11-2012. one e-mail from a former aide outlined the prep work saying, quote, the goal is to underscore
that these protests are rooted in an internet video and not a broader failure or policy. why weren't these e-mails given to congress when they asked for them last august? joining us now is a member of the house oversight and reform committee who asked for those e-mails, did not get those e-mails, congressman jason chaffetz. congressman, a lot of people watching this say, what's changed? what's changed for you now? >> we have a whole nother set of documents. the oversight committee has roughly 3200 new documents that we've gotten in the last 30 days. despite the white house saying this is a phony scandal. it was done a long time ago. what difference does it make, you ever the white house press secretary in an embarrassing moments, tried to say that the ben rhodes e-mail had nothing to do with benghazi. that's absolutely laughable. today we're going to hear from a general, air force general who was there in germany as this was going down in the room. we're going to hear from him, what was happening in that room? were the facts as we knew them? and the white house just can't
keep saying we were dealing with the best intelligence we had. oh, yeah? what was that intelligence? what did the military think was going down? >> so we had talking points ahod mike morell said i had no idea where that word tape came from. but you also have him dealing with offering a his services to help work something outs with the state department. that's also in these documents. >> he said that he was worried it would be embarrassing to the state department. that doesn't sound like somebody who is trying to get out the truth about what's going on in benghazi. you would the station chief himself say it had nothing to do with a video and that that led to some sort of mob that got out of control. >> one thing, you guys got to help gregory hicks 'cause his career is all screwed up because believe. but today, you're going to talk to general lovely -- lovell. what is he going to say about these giocoso have been saved or
at least helped? >> we got to hear it from his own lips. but i think generally what happened is they were waiting for hillary clinton and the state department to offer some direction. they were there in a support mission to the state didn't. what did hillary clinton direct? what did she wants? what was her communication with the president? ends up hillary clinton didn't even speak with the president that night. so you have air force -- the pentagon and resources, they tried to come up with this lame story that they couldn't have gotten there in time. i'm worried that they didn't even trio get there. that's what i want to ask the general this morning. >> is it time for the speaker of the house to commission a select committee and get a real prosecutor asking questions consistently with follow-ups and start making some progress on this? >> i think we have been making progress, but it's getting increasingly difficult to deny the fact that we have a major, major scandal. we have lies that are perpetuated by this white house. i don't know how over the course of time we continue to resist the idea of creating a select
committee, if we're going to be stove piped. the reality is we're issuing subpoenas that are going out there. but they have got to comply with those. when the white house and the state department don't comply with subpoenas, we got a major, major problem in this country. >> you know what? they're not. judicial watch is having a court order to make them do it is the only thing that do. it makes me wonder if anything is going to change. anyone who passes away, talking points is not going to happen and there is no there there, i think they have a hard case to prove. congressman, you've been there, been to libya, done the research. i look forward to the hearings today. thanks so much. >> thanks, brian. coming up next, "fox & friends" will wrap things up and say something that might change your life. ♪ ♪
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tomorrow we're off to the kentucky derby. right? >> right. >> fun. >> that will be great. and cheerleading a sport, yes or no? >> she says yes. >> see you tomorrow. good morning, everybody, a fox news alert. this will be a significant day as the white house's benghazi story is falling apart. sources telling fox he's expected to reveal new information about what was happening on the ground that night or what was not happening on the ground that night. both critical. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to america's newsroom. martha: it's brigadier general robert lovell. he says he watched the assault in realtime.
the rangers will host the flyers. avalanche with the wild. "way too early" -- and "morning joe" starts right now. you can do whatever you want. the little i ask you is not to promote it and not to bring him to my games. >> black people can't attend his games. [ boos ] >> i couldn't have said that better myself. >> folks, i'm shocked that sterling would perpetuate the cruel stereotype that white people are genetically superior at basketball spectating. [ laughter ] >> oh, let me guess because our muscular skeletal structure makes it easier for us to pump cheese. that is racist. and everyone has expressed outrage, folks. even the clippers players made a statement. >> clippers players staged a
silent protest dumping their uniforms on court and wearing the jersey inside out and concealed the clippers logo. >> they concealed the beloved logo of the clippers which we all know is -- [ laughter ] >> i want to say a guy getting a hair cut or -- [ laughter ] a toenail clipper with googly eyes. [ laughter ] good morning. it's wednesday, april 30th. good to have you on "morning joe" on this beautiful day. >> it's may tomorrow. >> oh, gosh. it's so cold. and lots of terrible storms across the country. we'll be talking about that soon. also, barack obama and obamacare, yet another poll out. this time, nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. well we'll see how that lines up
with the abc news/"washington post" poll. it wasn't great use. plus, did you guys see this, "star wars" -- do we have any "star wars" nerds on the set? >> yes, i'm old school. i wasn't triled with the trilogy but old school "star wars" yes. >> how about they're bringing back harrison ford, mark hamill and carrie fisher. all three in the seventh "star wars" movie. >> this was in a reading yesterday. a script reading yesterday. you can see harrison ford to the right of j.j. abrams. carrie fisher two over at 3:00. mark hamill at about 10:00, 11:00 o'clock on your screen as well. mark, are you a "star wars" nerd? >> i'm looking for jar jar banks. >> no jar jar banks. >> i like it fine. i have no figurines. >> george lucas has been banned,
i think, from this. r 2 did 2 is going there, too. 30 years after the end. of "return of the jedi" 1983. no darth, though, he's gone. >> yeah. >> can they bring him back now? >> no. >> it's "star wars" assisted living. >> no they had that ghost scene at the end. >> flashbacks. >> i think billy madison, too. they yeed a bobby ewing situation. it was all a dream. anyway, mike barnicle, msnbc and "time" senior political analyst, mark hamillton, and the reverend al sharpton in d.c., anchor for news america and co-author of "the confidence
code" ckatty kay, why don't you get us started. >> i'm just worried about that -- >> that's a very bbc look. with the hair on both sides. >> no, let's get a look at news. after promise due process by donald sterling, nba commissioner silver delivered a swift response to the racist remarks. >> the views expressed by mr. sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. that they came from an nba owner only heightens the damage in my personal outrage. accordingly, effective immediately, i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers organization or the nba. >> okay. so what this means, in practice is, no practice, no games. he cannot be at the clippers facility or weigh in on any personnel decisions. he can have no interaction with
the team he owns ever again. that's on top of a maximum $2.5 million fine. that's pretty nominal considering that his estimated net worth is around $1.9 billion. but the question of how long sterling will own the clippers is also in doubt. >> i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. >> sterling has reportedly told fox news jim gray that the team is not for sale. and he will not be selling the team. with that said, several groups do appear to be interested in purchasing the team with bidding expected to exceed $1 billion. magic johnson, boxer floyd mayweather jr. and david geffen are all said to be among the interested parties. farce the actual team the clippers had to prepare for game five of their playoff series
against the golden state warriors. following commissioner silver's announcement, the team posted this message on their website simply reading "we are one." and last night, the game began without delay. something that almost didn't happen. both the warriors and clippers and possibly the other four teams playing last night were all reportedly going to boycott last night's games if they were unsatisfied with silver's ruling. >> willie geist, the nba moved very quickly. everybody is talking about the hammer dropping on this guy. they really didn't have much of a choice, did they? >> no, adam silver did the right thing. what's to know about him, people say, oh, my gosh, he's only been on the job for three months. he's been at the nba for 23 years. he serve ted right hand of david stern. he knew this league. he did it the right way. he authenticated the tape. he made sure he had all the information. he did pretty much the maximum that he's able to do.
he needs three quarters of the owners to vote. that would be the last piece of the puzzle. >> the guy has 1 but $8 billion, mike barnicle, he doesn't plan to move anywhere. >> donald sterling is a very litigious person. he sueden officer whatever left, business. the nba is probably getting ready to go to course against donald sterling. they will win. they'll force him out before they get to court. >> one of the reasons, al, that it the nba had to do what the nba had to do is because they sat by and let this guy act in about hornet way since the early 1980s. long of the owner of the clippers. everybody knew this guy was, very least, racially insensitive. he'd been sued by elgin baylor. everybody knew the nature of this guy. nba had to move quickly, didn't
they? >> they did. i think they made a very bold and appropriate move. but i think the question that you raise is one that we're faced with now. i haven't been watching because last night, leaders of those and heads of civil rights groups met in the congressional black caucus chair to talk about how do we make sure that there are things put in place in the nba that we make sure these kinds of things doesn't happen again. so as they go through forcing the sale and whatever litigation comes up, what are we going to put in place where a sterling doesn't reoccur? we can't keep going from incident to incident. we must really build in the infrastructure, box of where we are. we're in a time now where you have gays now playing in pro ball. you have all kinds of inclusion. we cannot have a league or any kind of sports where you don't have in-built mechanisms to vet these things out and avoid these
things from happening. >> no doubt about it. we're going to be talking about this throughout the three hours at 8:00. at the top at 8:00, bob costas is going to be here. katty, let's move on to polling. bad news in the form of a abc news/"washington post" poll, now, nbc is out and gives us more ideas on whether the bad numbers on obamacare or the president were outriders or not? >> yeah, it doesn't look good. the brand-new polls from the nbc news and the "wall street journal." overall, 40%. 50% disapprove of how he's handling his job. compare those numbers from the abc news and "washington post" poll, it puts the president deeper under water. 41% to 55%. that's the lowest approval since the start of his presidency.
36% say the law is a good idea. that's up one point from last month. 46%, still, though, say it's a bad idea. the abc news poll has the law upside down. 44% approval, 48% disapproval. on foreign policy, 37% back the president's handling of the situation in ukraine. according to nbc news, that's a six-point drop from last month. by the way, 45% disapprove of his approach. the abc news poll showed similar results, 44% to 36% split. overall, 65% of those polled by nbc news say the country's in the wrong track. while 27% see things moving in the right direction. neither of these polls, joe, looking great for the president.
mark har hall. there's this dissonnence between voters. between "the wall street journal" let's pull back and draw back. and frustration with the president's ukraine policy. it's kind of hard for the white house to square. >> well, it's difficult for any president to be working hard on a foreign policy issue and not having people rallying around him and encouraging him. and that is in the second term, the president would like to be able to show strength because domestically things are frustrated too. there's not a lot of good things to say from the president's point of view. it suggests the midterms are going to be a big problem. and it suggests that he's not going to be able to get a lot done if the numbers stay like this. the things he wants to do, immigration, climate change require a strong president.
>> how connected is -- for people that don't follow it closely, how connect said the president's approval rating to results in the midteller election? >> it's probably the thing that people think is the biggest indicator. if the numbers are as they are now, the water will have a hard time doing well. the danger is that these numbers are artificially high in the sense that the president's big on support. going about as low as he ever gets in any poll since he took office. the problem is a lot of that support comes from places where we weren't seeing contested races. his numbers are lower than the national number in arkansas, north carolina. >> louisiana, alaska. >> and even iowa. and other places. colorado where the battleground senate race, and the governors races are. the white house needs the president to be in a stronger position by november. these numbers suggest he's got a lot of work to do. the more he works on foreign policy, again, david axelrod has made this point, the harder it is for the country to rally and feel better about him because they're just not interested as the journal points out.
>> and we heard a couple weeks ago that obamacare, affordable care act, $8 million is going to cause a big uptick on this. but right now that doesn't seem to be the case. >> we talked about it yesterday with the abc poll that it at 44%. now the nbc poll says 36% think the health care law is a good thing. and democrats were going on to run on it in certain races but still largely unpopular. >> to my eye, the most vulnerable point of this poll, the most dangerous point of this poll, midterm elections or to the presidency itself is the 63% wrong track number. that's it. it's a pretty big number. >> it's been stubbornly high. you'd like to think with were a president with accomplishments it would be lower. but it's stubbornly high. >> no doubt about it, again, we'll see, though, the president
has been to the low to mid-40s. and everybody was preaching doom. read the op-eds in december of 2011. i saved a couple of them. they're pretty funny to read. talking about the disaster that was going to befall barack obama. you're right, there is a base. he's not going to go in the low 30s and 20s like george w. bush. >> or the mid-30s. that 40% of the country love or is with him. >> so, this will turn out to be, at the end of the day, a turnout operation. if the midterms -- the 54s are older and wider and more conservative as they are. in every midterm election there will be problems if the obama administration can turn out what they're able to turn out as far as the turnout operations in '08 and '12, they've got a shot of holding the senate. >> well, what do you do to
stimulate the turnout in younger voters the way they did in '08 and now? >> i don't think they're going to. >> there's another piece of replicating the obama model. you're right, one, turn out operation and get the coalition ascended to turn out. the other is to destroy the republican candidates the way they destroyed mitt romney. >> it's going to be hard to destroy that. like the koch brothers it's not going to work. >> it's not going to work not because of the koch brothers, it's not going to work because these congressmen and senators get a chance to get in front of voters. it gets so hard to nationalize these elections. >> well, the democrats try not to maximize it. it's to cherry pick every individual republican and to to do opposition research and say what can we do to disqualify this person? make them a koch brother ally, whatever it is. that's their hope. and it's their best hope.
because if it is nationalized, if it is a battle of the economy and affordable care act, the democrats will lose. coming up on "morning joe," we've got a lot to talk about. bob costas on his ideas on how the nba can force donald sterth to sell his team. he's going to be at 8:00 eastern. and david axelrod. governor tim pawlenty and dr. brzezinski will be here. also, i want to talk about what happened in oklahoma last night. absolutely horrific. coming up next on the "political playbook" a decision whether to hold vote. and struck in legislative limbo. also news you can't use. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast, bill? >> joe, i know you have such a great interest in families and friends in the pensacola area. they've never seen a flood like this, joe. there's people down there saying
how horrible this is. and we're talking about, you know, the water records go back at least 60 to 70 years. and the flooding going on right now is worse than any hurricane we've seen. i mean, that's how bad it is. the totals that we've seen are upwards of one to two feet of rain in the pensacola area since last night. and the last 24 hours. mobile has been very bad. they had a lot of water rescues there. look at this image, joe. this is downtown pensacola last night. water on the sidewalks at least two feet deep. as we go throughout the day, these pictures will come in. 10 is closed throughout the region. you cannot travel on it. there are cars stuck for six to eight hours. they literally can't go anywhere. there's a river rung over i-10 to pensacola. again, this is all associated with that same storm system that brought us tornadoes in the last couple of days. we got away with that. here's one of the pictures from rob mcgayen.
24.4 inches of rain for this event. two feet of rain just northwest of downtown pensacola. we did see tornados in eastern north carolina. thankfully, we didn't who's any lives with those. if you're on the east coast from new england to the mid-atlantic, a lot of rain today. a lot of airport delays. but it shoun be too bad as far as tornadoes are concerned. just a few strong storms. i'll continue to give you yip updates from north florida with historic flooding as we go through the morning on "morning joe." we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] the wright brothers started in a garage. mattel started in a garage. disney started in a garage. amazon started in a garage. ♪ the ramones started in a garage. my point? some of the most innovative things in the world come out of american garages. introducing the lighter, faster cadillac cts.
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." you know, willie, a shot of mika there -- where is mika there -- >> cannes. >> for the festival? >> yeah. >> she's got a film? >> does she really? >> yeah. documentary on vacations in the south of france. >> no cats around the house. remember when she had the cat in here? >> yeah.
>> cat in the bag. cats in the bag. >> cats out of the bag. >> whoo! what a story. >> it is. >> it's a story of transformation coming of age. >> in the south of france? >> yeah. >> i think you better call mika and let her know if she's aware of this or not. "the new york times" say prosecutors are close to filing charges against the world's biggest banks, chris bank suisse is under fire for offering tax shelters and bnb paribas. feds say it's to finish banks without putting them out of business. and twitter's stock hits a new low. despite the fact that the service actually added 14 million monthly active users.
and its revenue nearly doubled in the first quarter. stocks were down 10% in afterhours trading. this may be a sign that twitter is to remain a niche service. and "usa today," federal governments could lose $47 billion if congress fails to add to the highway trust fund. the money currently in the fund goes only to existing projects. the funding comes from the federal tax on gas and diesel fuel. but that has not been raised since 1993. >> great for the country's infrastructure. "the new york times" a top international olympic committee official says the preparations for the 2016 summer olympics in rio are, quote, the worst he has experienced. the comments add to mounting concerns the country's not prepared to host the event without international assistance. it also comes just weeks, of course, before the country is set to host the world cup.
the ioc will send outside experts to monitor progress in brazil. i was down in rio recently, they say it's all going to be fine, on time and budget, willie. >> so, katty, do you believe that? are you going to go down with your family and just kind of hang out in rio and watch the world cup? >> wouldn't it be great to be there for the final in rio? for the world cup? even if it was chaos, it would be great. >> i do not know i'd want to take my 5-year-old. >> different type of chaos. we're in search of a different kind of chaos. yeah, the question is, why brazil hosts the world cup in '14, the olympics in '16, it's clearly not ready. >> certainly on the world cup, some of the stadiums just don't look like they're going to be ready on time. >> and the olympics, the inside word is they say we're going to start on the olympics. let's get through the world cup. well, that leaves you less than two years to get ready for the olympics. it it will be a scramble but it always is with the olympics.
>> it comes as a shock. i think when they were awarded we thought no problem. >> just like russia's putin that went smoothly. and mr. halperin, the play on veep i'm sure you heard that mr. allen. let's talk business. harry reid said democrats are holding talks about a vote to prove the keystone pipeline. is that actually going to happen? >> they're actually going to have a vote. and this is a real surprise. it's a sign of how worried democrats are about the senate. yesterday, i was out at the milken conference in los angeles, did a poll, including a lot of democrats, asking them what they thought the chances were republicans could take every 0 the senate. nate silver said around 60%.
dave leonhart said around 61%. the democrats i talked to said it's more like 60%. they are worried about a republican senate. so you have harry reid saying he might take a vote on approving the keystone pipeline. what's not determined is, will this be something that's binding will this be more a sense of the senate, as they call it. but the key fact, 11 senate democrats have signed a letter to president obama saying they want him to approve it by the end of may. there's a bunch of states where democrats are in danger where a voter for the keystone pipeline would help. >> mark, a manufacturing base of america, a transformation of
this economy when we become the number one producer of oil by 2020 according to "the wall street journal." natural gas just exploding. democrats really could be on the wrong side of history here. i just get the sense, in my gut, that the most ideological wing of his party is going to sit back and fight and scratch and claw. and you see it already, them trying to stop the president from approving keystone. and i think most americans are going to go, jobs? cheaper energy prices? an increase in the manufacturing base? i just -- you know, the ideologues go, keystone is only going to create three jobs and these just outrageous claims. and i don't think americans buy it. i don't think most americans buy it. >> not just most americans but a lot of democrats in congress who are on the far left of the party agree with the things you just
listed. look, there's substantive issues here. it's hard for a weak president to get anything substantive through. they want to do something on energy efficiency. some people want to do keystone. i don't think it will have an effect on the midterms. i don't believe it's the energy package we need to bring about the energy revolution you're talking about. but you're right, the white house to some extent is on the wrong side of this politically. and harry reid is crafting as he always does to get them in a better place. i don't think it's a big deal for the republicans, i really don't. >> reverend sharpton, no approval, no decision, what do you think? >> i think mark is right. i really don't think it is going to be all of that, either way. but i think it's going to be the political football that harry reid has got to play in terms of taking it off the table. so it doesn't appear to be something that is really is not. if it were to pass. it could be used in the
elections. and in a negative way, against the democrats. the environmental concerns and all of that that many have is a question of who can outmessage the other. it's better to take it off the table, and that harry reid can have a vote that really doesn't impact one way or the other. it takes it out of the politics. midterm elections is about turning out your base. polls are good, but it's turning out your base. and i think the more you can avoid things that really have no impact and drive your base up, that's who's going to win the midterm elections. i think democrats will have to say to their voters we won't be able to confirm, cabinet members if some of the cabinet members leave early. if we get a supreme court, we can't confirm people they go and argue what's at stake here if we lose the senate, they could drive out their base. >> mike allen, it's kind of interesting as the reverend was pointing out how the
environmental concerns about the pipeline has been mooted over the past six or seven months in the quake of what joe was playing out, energy and jobs. >> that's right, it's partly because i think people in washington have assumed for a long time, all the signals that came out of the white house during the last campaign was that they eventually would approve this. they've now pushed it back past the election. i was surprised, the new "rolling stone" has a long piece about this saying the president finally gets it on the environment. the president is finally doing real things on climate. the sources in that "rolling stone" article say that they think the president will eventually reject that. this is a definite unknown. a definite mystery, in washington, something we don't often have. but i agree with the reverend. this is about cover. giving the democrats cover. they're trying everything because they're worried. >> mike allen with a look at the "playbook" we'll see you. >> do you think there's going to be a "playbook" reference in the
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welcome back to "morning joe." time for some sports. we've got governor tim pawlenty to talk politics and all the rest. he's such a sports nut, we thought he'd led him do sports. >> good morning. >> warriors/clippers. we talked about the pregame. and sterling banned for life. deandre jordan leading the way, 25-18. the clippers got it over golden state. saluting the crowd on the way out. a 3-2 series lead.
head coach doc rivers spoke about the team drama surrounding this game. >> i thought, you know, you could see them get tired a lot. i thought that was from all the emotional, you know, baggage the last four days. you think it's just the players. it was the fans, too. everybody was going through this. it was almost like everybody wanted to exhale tonight. and it was good. >> that's a great coach. and a lot of it around this table know a great man too helped his team weather the last four days. >> an important footnote, the story is well covered and of course, sterling's an idiot. some learned lessons from rim, the grace and care and balance that he reflected and maturity through all of this, doc rivers is a real diplomat for basketball. >> you know that mike barnicle, you spent a lot of time around him. >> the grizzlies playing the thunder in game five. okc down two in the final seconds. >> 15 seconds to play.
70 to shoot. 5 to shoot for conley, off the screen of gasol. westbrook picks his pocket the other way. four seconds remaining. score time at 90. >> russell westbrook rips mike conley. ties the game into overtime. memphis has the lead. final seconds, thunder gets one last chance. >> coming to the ball, durant. for the three, backed up by butler. rolled in. it rolled in at the buzzer. the thunder think they have won the ball game. bill spooner says no goal. and again, they will review. they're going to need a more definitive look. well, no, they don't. they say no basket. memphis has won game five. >> wow. >> that would have been the game-winning basket for oklahoma city. waived off. memphis wins 100-99, they're up
3-2 in that series. wizards beat up the bulls. they won that series. 4-1. they'll get the pacers or the hawks. the way it's looking, it's going to be the hawks. the pacers will be dreadful. let's get to hockey. game six against the rangers. phillies, scoring three goals, hat trick. 5-2 over the rangers. they head back to new york for the deciding game. another upsetting game. governor pawlenty's got his eyes on this one. >> if you're going to say minnesota, you can't emphasize the "i" you got to drag your "o." >> forgive he. >> against colorado it's been a great series. i'm hoping for minnesota. patrick wild, the new head coach, has done a great job.
every team has won on the home ice except the last game. >> who's your favorite of the playoff teams? >> the minnesota wild, chicago is looking great. i thought the st. louis blues, chicago's looking good. i got to say boston bruins, even though first half of the year, even they looked wobbly, they've come on strong. if i had to predict, i'd say chicago and boston again. >> willie, packed last night, a lot of people looking for two games. of course, jeter's final game it's going to be huge. cano coming back to new york. seriously, you know, i always go in the subway to go up to see the kids at the orphanage, uptown, i could not get on there because of so many people going to the game. >> was it emotional? >> it was. it was a cleansing, you know for three hours. >> like bronx sardines. grizzly night. is it still april? >> it feels like a minnesota.
former yankee robinson cano left the team in the off-season as many of you know made his return to the bronx last night with the seattle mariners, here's the welcome he received. look at these people. >> here comes robinson cano. robinson cano. >> there's three people there. >> the top of the first. it was raining last night. >> look at these seats in april. >> cano went 1 for 5. >> look at the seats. >> corey hart on the right. >> la, la, la -- >> they won 6-3. sparse turnout, cold, rainy. >> look at that. small market. >> well, there are only 20 million people in the metro. how could they fill that? >> same with the mets. obviously, this market is not big enough to support that. >> that photograph was tweeted
out by colin barnacle, the son of mike barnicle, rubbing it in the face of the yankees. >> 8,000 seat's -- by the way, i agree, going to atlanta, that looks like it looked when bob warner would hit a foul ball or dale murphy down the right field line. and we would zip down, we'd race from home plate, i'm serious, all the way to right field, going after the ball. >> that's how it was being a mets fan in the late '80s. you'd yell to your buddy across the arena, hey, jeff, after the game! >> yeah, that's what it's like being a yankees fan. still ahead on "morning joe," what is next for the clippers now that the nba is looking to force a sale of the team? how hard is donald sterling going to fight this thing. we'll talk to bob costas, neil
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♪ look at that. welcome back to "morning joe." we have mark halperin. you were dissecting the presidential race. >> this man knows a lot about the presidential race. >> he misses nothing. we're going to send to you ladbrokes and put new charge of the wagering machine. >> it came from mika's "must
read" opinion pages. she sent it to us. katty, mika has picked out a tough maureen dowd op-ed about barack obama. >> yeah, maureen dowd writes in "the new york times" is barry whiffing, stop whining mr. president, and stop whiffing. we understand it's frustrating you're dealing with some really evil guys and some really nutty polls but that being said, you are the american president and the american president should not perpetually use the word "eventually." an an american president should never say as did you monday in manila, you hit singles, you hit doubles, every once in a while, we may be able to hit a home run. once you like to have the stage, mr. president to have the aura of the lone man in the arena, not sharing the spotlight with others.but now when captured alone in the picture, you seem disconnected and adrift what
happen to crushing it and swigging for the fences? what have you gone, babe ruth? >> tim pawlenty, does not seem to be pleased with barack obama leadership right now. >> when you have maureen dowd, you're losing her and you're a democrat, that's not a good sign. the president hasn't been at his high-water mark. he needs to crystallize issues or some issues are going to crystallize him. >> she's obviously talking about ukraine. republicans have been critical of the president. obviously, most people in the republican party don't want to get involved militarily. >> i think with respect to foreign policy, you can't run it by polls. joe, there's dissonance. there's a chunk of the country that wants less engagement. the president has to put the first principle first which is to keep the nation safe and let the polls decide whether that was right. obviously, not going to deploy
the military in the ukraine but dr. brzezinski and others have said, we need to be more aggressive with the sanctions, frankly with the europe mean allies including germany. and we need to dial up the heat. it's the message that gets sent to russia with respect to iran. it's the message with respect to syria. it's the message sent to russia with respect to the nuclear arms negotiation and defense. it has a cascading effect. if you show a bully weakness, and you give them weakness, they'll take it. >> where do you stand in the right year for substantively take that on? >> i'm a supporter of reform, mark, but we're not going to get it done this year. it's going to fill into 2014. unfortunately. republicans should, if you're going to talk the talk of being the working class if we have a minimum wage, it should be reasonably adjusts from time to
time, for all the republicans who talk about we're the blue color and for the workers there should be basic things that they're for, and that's one of them increases in the minimum wage. >> before we go, you heard the conversation, i won't talk about everything you guys discussed. but jeb bush, is jeb going have to trouble getting through? >> well, the classic question can a quote/unquote established candidate get through a an increasingly conservative party. people say, no, it can never happen. in mccain's case a compelling personal story and a gritty performance. in mitt romney case, obviously a man of great talent but tremendous resources and infrastructure. jeb can do that but it's not going to be uncontested in so many runs. >> that last name is going to be tough. >> party has shifted. it's not so much the tea party. it's a libertarian wing that paul represents. you wouldn't have predicted
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>> we know that. >> mika pulled the cat out of the bag. changed the whole dynamic of the show. yesterday morning, deborah duncan is hosting "great day america" in khu in houston. >> i love that show. >> they bring out a live monkey. >> what can go wrong? >> do you want to co-host with me? ahh! oh! >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to tease you. i didn't mean to tease you. >> i think you just got popped by a monkey. >> i did. >> she took the punk very well. >> i think it goes back to the defensive position. that's impressive. boom. >> that's frazier. >> it is. it's a left hook. got to get him off of you a little bit, get some space. >> i'll tell you what, after that, i'd be too exhausted to even watch like "wheel of
fortune." >> you didn't see will last night? >> no, what happened? >> okay. let's see if you at home would solve this puzzle as difficult as one contestant. >> "m" -- >> yes, there is an "m." >> not that it will do any good. both halves. >> i'd like to solve the puzzle -- >> okay. >> boozing my shore excursion? >> no. josh? >> i'd like to solve the puzzle. booking my shore excursion. [ laughter ] >> what did you think? -- >> she had booze on the brain. boozing -- what in the world? >> she's fun on a vacation. >> oh, my. by the way, pat sajak. he's the dick clark of our time. he doesn't look old.
>> absolutely. sajak, until you get him out of that format, very sneaky, subversive guy. >> and a big baseball guy. >> can i offer a nugget. vanna white did an ver view i think with "time," she has not once in the 20 some years on the show repeated an outfit. >> really? >> new dress every show. >> it's kind of like me. >> i haven't worn this sweater since -- >> yesterday. >> -- yesterday. coming up at the top of the hour, the nba is now trying to force the clippers owner donald sterling to sell his team. but is everybody on board? >> what donald said was wrong. it was ababhorrent, there's no place for race yichl in the nba. it's a very slippy slope. if it's about race imand we're ready to kick people out of the league, okay, what about homophobia, or somebody that doesn't like a particular
religion. >> that's mark cuban. >> he's sweating. >> i think he was working out or something. also ahead, something happened in oklahoma that had people exploding online and across the country. very passionate reaction. we'll talk about it when we come right back. avo: wherever your journey takes you
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it's unbelievable that donald sterling is so racist even when he's not being racist he still sounds racist take a list. >> the blacks are moving into my neighborhood. i look forward to the chinese it's been in the fridge since last thursday. jew! sorry, my allergies are -- >> and i hate when you but a nee-gro inside of you. those are my patented knee-growing supplements. welcome back. walter isaacson and sports columnist for "the new york times" bill rhodon, and from bristol, connecticut moderates
of espn's "first take" cari champion. thank you so much for being with us. katty, why don't is he go ahead and go to the news and then take it around the table. >> this is getting a lot of attention around the world, joe. after promising due process to donald sterling, nba commissioner adam silver delivered a swift and severe judgment against the owner for his racist remarks. >> the views expressed by mr. sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. that they came from an nba owner only heightens the damage and my personal outrage. accordingly, effective immediately, i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers organization or the nba. >> okay. so what that means is, no practice, no games. he cannot be at the clippers facility or weigh in on any
personnel decisions. he can have no interaction with the team he owns ever again. and that's on top of a maximum $2.5 million fine, pretty nominal really considering his estimated net worth is around $1.9 billion. but the question of how long sterling will own the clippers is now also in doubt. >> i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team. and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. >> so, bill, sterling has said he's not selling the team. >> yeah. >> he doesn't plan to go anywhere. >> right. >> he's got $1.9 billion. and he loves suing people. this could be a bloodbath for the nba. >> guess what, a lot of owners, everybody is going, yeah, wait a minute, what about me? what happens if -- you got some guys in florida who are supporting an anti-gay campaign. i mean, where does this end?
so now you see a lost owners, cuben is starting to back up saying, yeah, the guy has got it go. but on the other hand, this is kind of a slippery slope. you're right. it's one thing to make this announcement. silver did the only thing he could do. you've got the president weighing in. michael jordan, lebron james. if you did anything other than this, you're going to have a moral train wreck. but now this is where the fun begins legally. because if you know sterling at all, he didn't get to be a billionaire by laying down. you know he's going to fight this. >> right. and cari, nba really didn't have much of a choice, given what's happened with this guy around the front office for years now. but at the same time, the nba -- it might be a lot easier to hold that press conference than actually get him out of that position. >> yeah, that's absolutely right. you see, what we're forgetting is, through all of this, donald sterling has been silent.
he said nothing. and if i were a betting person which i am not, i'm sure he's at home with his legal team deciding the next plan of action. and when we do hear from him, i doubt if he will go quietly into the night. he's not known for that, as mentioned earlier. and there's a lot of different things that we haven't even addressed here. could in fact they transfer ownership to his wife? will the league in fact take over? think of the courts. this is something we could have dragged out in courts for years to come. >> you know, walter, the nba commissioner has banned this guy for life from the league. but you can't ban racism for life. and endemic in our culture, no matter how many times you say we're going to have a conversation about race, we never have that conversation. what does this do, this entire flap do, in your mind to that continuing nagging problem in american culture? >> well, it it can be a good learning experience. i think the president said it
well had he talked about, you know, you have to look at the fact we've had these things happen over the years, over the decades, over the century, but now it's outrageous when it happens. we say, this can't stand. i can remember 20, 30 years ago, somebody would get away with saying something like that. so these things help lance the boil of that. but we should also deepen the conversation a little bit and say, all right, what about the racism that's still hanging around. >> i was going to say, this honl happ only happened because -- you know, it was illegally recorded -- >> that's the way it is in this digital age. >> this guy was allowed to discriminate. >> right. >> for 30 years and nothing was ever said. >> but the good thing we've lanced the boil a bit. and when you talk about the other owners and whether or not they're going to force him to sell, the other owners are going to get away with not forcing him to sell, that will really hurt that owner's reputation. >> you make a great point about
where do we go from here. because, you know, we get so hung up in what he said. you've gone to a lot of press boxes. you can make the same statement, you can say what he said, a lot of different ways. i go in a press box every day. baseball press boxes and football, and it looks like 1955 in terms of no black faces. i tell the players when you get a chance walk through your office. go through the sales office and the public relations department. and what you'll find out people say the same thing that donald sterling said, but they are not clumsy about it, they just do it. >> what we aren't addressing, i think this is really smart. i'm sorry to jump in here but i have to say this, the reason why adam silver came in so hard, guys. this is clear. it's not that it's about sterling, if we think that this is the only person in the nba that feels that way, we're kidding ourselves. and so the reason we're calling this the silver hammer is he's
saying this won't be tolerated anymore. and sterling isn't alone. do we actually think about the person who actually called sterling to tell him what was going on in instagram? it could be someone in the organization. it could be someone else in the league. we have to say i know that he's not alone. that this is continuing to happen. so that's why he had to come down so hard on him. this is still something that's really still an issue in our country. we have a huge problem discussing race. it should be something at the forefront, something that we want to talk about without hiding behind it. >> katty. >> i was going to ask cari, he was banned against those remarks. what did you think the way he was talking to his girlfriend. this guy's attitude both to women and african-americans is just horrendous. >> listen, i grew up in los angeles. i'm a huge lakers fan. but i went to clippers games
anybody in sports within that city, knew this man, ran into this man, his reputation with women is just as atrocious as his behavior. he's known as a womanizer. it's almost as if he was jealous. it was jealousy. it was the racism. it was the how dare you present yourself this way, you're supposed to behave this way as a woman in public. it was very controlling. it was awe the things that you don't want to see in a person. and i don't know if you've heard, the young lady has come out and she is not his girlfriend. she was just a good friend of his. in fact, she feels really bad for him and that they were just buddies. >> i don't have a buddy that buys the luxury that she's in. and gives me range rovers. she says it wasn't that type of relationship. back to the tape. very disturbing how he was so controlling in deciding who she could be with. again, it's bizarre.
>> unbelievable. a buddy that buys a bentley. that's a buddy to have. >> or not to have. espn's cari champion, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. katty, let's move to oklahoma. officials in oklahoma are look the at last night's botched lethal injection of clayton lockett. lockett was sentenced to death for watching two accomplishes bury a woman in 1999. >> reporter: lockett was said to be executed using a new experimental cocktail of three drugs. when the president administered the first drug, a sedative to lockett. >> at that time, we began approaching the second and third part it's in protocol. there was some concern at that time that the drugs were not having the effect. >> reporter: courtney francis of
nbc station kfor witnessing the execution with other reporters said president officials declared lockett unconscious at 6:33 p.m. but over the next six minutes, eyewitnesses said lockett still appeared conscious and was struggling. >> one of the things he said was "something's wrong." he said "man" at one point. he kept trying to raise up. >> the 6:39, he's still lifting his shoulders and head off the gurney. grimacing. >> reporter: then eyewitnesses said prison officials closed off their window into the chamber putting lockett's execution on hold. >> it sounds as if the vein stopped working after the first drug was given, so that the paralysis and the medication to stop the heart, they just never worked. >> reporter: prison officials said lockett suffered a massive heart attack and died at 7:06 p.m. lockett's lawyer who initially sued the state for refusing to
release information about the prison drugs said prison officials are to blame. >> they wanted to get it done with as little transparency as possible. this is what they get. >> reporter: in a statement, oklahoma governor mary fallin called for a full review of oklahoma's execution procedures. and ordered the execution of a second inmate charles warner to be delayed 14 day. >> joining from us washington senior political editor and from "the washington post" sam stein. sam, this is going to get people taking a closer look at lethal injections which some people, i think, mistakenly believe are somehow more humane. you read the accounts of this. you read the account of the way that -- you know, the states are now scrounging around drug addicts trying to find the right combination of drugs to execute, suddenly it seems like a very shoddy, haphazard way to do things. and what happened to this guy last night, regardless of the
heinous things he did in his life amounts to -- it looks like from the description, amounts to torture. can amount to torture and is clearly unconstitutional. >> yeah, all of that is true. in fact, there's some states where they're having such trouble getting their hands on these cocktails of drugs that they're actually thinking about going back to firing squads and gas chambers which was another story in the ap last year but the big story is the political back job, the governor of the state, governor fallin, had pushed the supreme court to not have a stay of execution. the spreement court had granted a stay for the defense of these two people who committed heinous crimes said they wanted to know what was in the drugs so they could determine whether it was cruel and unusual punishment. the clerk gave them a stay. and then going to instruct to go ahead anyway. >> i have not over the past couple of weeks read the
oklahoma constitution, but i don't think we've studied that in law school in florida. but can a governor just decide on her own that a supreme court decision is null and void? >> well it's complicated. obviously, there's a constitutional crisis at hand. the state's court of appeals have ruled that the stay shouldn't be allowed to happen. and because a weird quirk in the oklahoma court system, she said the court of appeals have the jurisdiction and not the state supreme court. other way, they were on the brink of a prosecution crisis. and the supreme court basically acquiesced and said go ahead with the execution. in fact, one in oklahoma had threatened to bring articles of impeachment for justice on the court for staying the execution. that's how thirsty for the execution some of these lawmakers were. it turns out they did not have proper information how toed asister the drugs. and only now retroactively is the governor saying yeah, we
need to study what's going on here. listen these guys committed heinous crimes they were convicted and sentenced to death. but the politics had pushed for this to happen but it's coming back to biting them. >> the constitution is a constitution is a constitution. >> exactly. >> walter isaacson, this is not a right/left issue as much as it was, say, 30 years ago. you had people pat robertson starting to move against the death penalty and brought in evangelicals over the past several years. this is a case that's going make people -- willie geist and i were just talking on set. >> we're bending overbackwards trying to do all of these things that are not cruel and unusual. you kind of wonder if gary gilmore had it better. that's an older reference. with the sapphiring squad, whether that's not more humane. >> it does make us reflect on the constitution that says no
crucial or unusual punishment. that's something that changes over time. the definition of what's cruel and unusual changes. this will start a conversation again because clearly lethal injection when the drug companies are not going to supply the drug. you don't know where the drugs are coming from. >> by the way, that's important, walter. that's what's causing these problems. the drug companies are now refusing to supply the drugs. and it is causing people to -- >> so you have a group of legislators or a governor who is hell-bent to get something done like that, and then this happens, it's also a conscious center saying this is more complicates. >> we also have to note that just yesterday or two days ago maybe, a study came out that it's likely that 1 out of every 25 people executed by death penalty are probably innocent. so we're actually executing innocent people. this is a bigger conversation that we need to have about how we treat the people on death row. >> i wonder, bill, if in the state of oklahoma and the legislature they have as much
intensity towards education, as they do seemingly some of them are about improving their capital punishment system? >> yeah, first of all, i'm at the point, i think that what this is going to do is reenergize the opposition. this was -- i mean, i'm conflicted also because i'm thinking of the families. >> sure. >> and revenge and no penalty could be terrible. but when you look at 100 years from now, when you look back on our society, and you look at how we deal with each other, the br brutality and punishment. some of this to me is so sad. i'm not necessarily saturday for the guy what he did, just the human quality of this. and again, i wish i had an answer. i wish i knew how to deal with this. >> well, there's one thing, mark, that's always been in the equation when people talk about
capital punishment. of course, the first thing you think about is the victim or victim's family. but in state after state, the lack of true certainty of punishment, in some states you get the death penalty, or you get life in jail, but life in jail means 25 years. the certainty of punishment, life in jail means life in jail. that might do something to resolve this age old thing. >> the bigger issues that bill raised about the victims and the question of the death penalty being administered fairly, all of that needs to be discussed. the governor has to solve this. mary fallin is a national leader. she's a member of congress. the legislatures have rules. courts have rules. she has to begin to unravel went what wrong technically but restore confidence in the justice system because this so undermines what is already a tough issue in the country. >> sam, really quickly, just so everybody knows the guy that was on death row, the guy that had a heart attack last night and died
shot a 19-year-old woman and buried her alive. again, a heinous crime. that said, it's not as if there weren't heinous crimes when our founding fathers drafted the constitution there is a clause that prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. and in this case, again, when you have this chaotic process, where the drug manufacturers won't even give you the drugs. so you're going out and you're creating these cocktails which in the end didn't put this man under last night. so according to the reports, he suffered agonizing suffocation and pain. and, yes, just like the 19-year-old woman who was buried alive. we understand that. but there's a difference. >> sure. >> i mean -- >> we are the united states of america and we have a constitution. but it's supposed to prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. again, i'm not preaching against the death penalty. i'm saying is this no way to
administer consistently our -- the constitution. >> listen, you can find the way this execution was botched to be utterly grotesque and not feel sympathy. you can still believe in the death penalty. i don't think those two are in contradiction at all. one other thing for fiscal conservatives throughout there was a study that came out, i think in kansas, where executing people actually costs four times more for the state than it does to keep them in prison for life. just because of the legal appeals that constantly have to be made for any execution to flakes. it's cheaper not to execute people than execute someone. >> sam, greatly appreciate it. bill, appreciate you being in here. go penns. -- >> i'll explain that later, yes. sam, actually is staying with us. coming up after the financial
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and welcome back to "morning joe." look at that beautiful view. mark halperin, doesn't that make you want to -- >> it's like i postcard. >> picture postcard. >> i'll tell you what, april 30th. unbelievable. you've got one day until may. and maybe it's been over 61 so far this month.
>> thomas, welcome. >> hi. >> are you going to bring sunshine? >> i wore this tie to force the spring. >> with us from washington, d.c., we got nbc news chief white house correspondent and host of "the daily rundown" chuck todd. chuck, we're going to have katty get to the latest poll. what do you have? >> there's a new poll that's just come in from nbc. but let's start with the overseas numbers. 37% approve of how president obama is handling the situation in ukraine. that's a six-point drop from last month. just 19% of americans want the u.s. to take a more active role in world affairs. nearly half favor less active approach. those numbers have changed significantly from back in 2001, by the way. the poll shows 38% approve of that president's handling of foreign policy. that's the lowest level of his presidency. overall, the president's job
approval rating stands now at 44%. that's a few points better than last month's record low. that could weigh on democrats, though, heading into november's midterms. overall, 63% of those polled said the country is on the wrong track. 27% see things moving in the right direction. and, of course, whoever inherits the white house in 2016, that's going to be a concern for them. so far, hillary clinton is far outpacing two of her owe terrible gop rivals when it comes to favorability. the foresecretary of state is viewed significantly more positively than former governor jeb bush or senator rand paul. >> chuck todd, obama's approval ratings holding pretty steady. affordable care act stuck in the mid-30s. what's it mean? >> it's an important development in the last six months, joe, if you look at it both the president's approval rating and the health care numbers,
basically the approval rating of the health care law are at six-month highs. meaning they're basically back to where they were the week before the website debacle. we were in the field, basically government shutdown, right when before we new the website was a total disaster. >> but it was like 36%? >> that's my point. and it had gotten worse over the last six months. the point of the poll is this, joe. the poll numbers are better, they're still not good, okay? there is slight improvement on the health care law. and that directly related to slight improvement for president obama. because what was amazing in this poll, i don't think i've ever seen this in the history of our poll, the president's rob rating on the economy and rob rating on foreign policy are both lower than this overall job rating. it's unique that the sum is actually greater than the parts. usually one of the two is dragging him down. so in this case, you see that
basically health care is the driver for him now. it got him back to just barely underwater. versus before, i think he was much farther and a much better place. >> chuck, two-part question, one, do democratic strategists think they can do well number with the president's numbers where they are now and what's the strategy to improve the numbers? >> well they still need to get better. if you look inside his numbers, for instance the president's job rating those undecided on the generic ballot are is at 29%. the generic ballot is 45-45. you can argue it's not high enough to improve there. however, when you look at the makeup of the president's job rating and the improvements that were made, they were made in sort of the democratic coalition that democrats need to do well. and in particular, women. the gender gap. what's interesting here, while republicans are stronger, a
little bit stronger, among men than they were in 2010. they are in a much worse place among women than they were in 2010. so you do see this gender gap growing even bigger. and that is a way, potential, at least to not do as badly. that's an important development for democrats as well as these increased gender gaps. >> these are important, obviously, the programs are important to future. and help me assess this. i was talking to a fairly prominent person in american life. a person who i had to call late in the afternoon in november of 2008 to tell him that the exit polls indicated that barack obama would be elected president. and he called me back later that night, election night, crying, he was so happy, with the president. yesterday afternoon, he was telling me how disappoint he has been in the obama presidency of late. what do you think rumbles
beneath the surface of these numbers with that story? >> well, i do think they're going to end up getting better. i mean disdain for the health care law because so much has been said tab. a lot of misinformation, but as millions of people get health care it will go. i see that with louisiana. mary landrieu is now saying i was in favor of health care. likewise, cities in this country, unemployment has gone down to 5%. you're getting cities starting to recover. i think the president's approval rate will go go up. >> there's a level of disappointment. >> there's a disappointment, historically, when you look back and say, okay, we got out of the financial crisis. we have a boon of energy which i think we should exploit more and use against russia, frankly. we've also had a health care thing that's going to end up being good for this country.
historically, it's go to be better off for the polls. >> obviously, we'll know more in the november midterms. and how that pans out. as we look at the numbers and as they play out to who people like for 2016, it looks like hillary clinton is the big leader here and nobody can catch her, at least in this poll. >> i remember the same discussion in. 20 2007. obviously, she's in a good position. liberals, these not the liberal candidate, there's going to be someone who runs to her left. i just don't see it. you talk to a lot of people wary of betting into the race because of her money advantage. to barnacle's question, the reason people are disappointed with the president is because he overpromised and destined to deliver. i think that's obvious. if you look at the numbers with respect to what he's done, especially on health care, things are improving in terms of
the realm of public opinion. if you look at the numbers how people want to keep the minor fixes, that's only 48%. there's 28% that want a full repeal. the numbers are evening out a little. i think the republicans feel that it's nontenable. >> i agree with sam. the people yelling for total repeal of the law are the ones that are going to hit the backlash. you have a may have trend right now which is on economic opportunity. economic equality. whether the pope or anything else. i think republicans and democrats can come together to try to clear that. but if that doesn't happen, i think that's going to be obama's narrative for the next couple years. >> we shall see. chuck todd, before i let you go, "the wall street journal" has a headline americans want to pull back from the world stage poll
says." talk about that. >> you saw katty read that one number, 47% want us to be less active. we gave people a choice of what type of foreign policy that they want from a president. and while they want a president to be strong -- be a little more confrontational, they don't want us to be more involved. i think it actually explains the president's job rating, right? which is the more foreign policy is in the news, the more they just don't like it. so they don't approve of what he's doing in russia, thre38% o there. but ask them overall, they're fine with it, they're fine with the president's own style on foreign policy. i think you've got a little bit of a confused electorate, other than they just don't want to be involved. they just want to retreat. if the government gets involved overseas, they don't want to hear about it. that's the other thing that the president has. they don't want to hear about it. >> after years of war, you can certainly understand. chuck, thank you so much.
we're be checking you out on "the daily rundown." sam, thank you as well. greatly appreciate it. we're going to keep talking about this. davidaxelrod is coming in at 8:00 on the east coast. and we'll get david's reaction, when the president is talking about foreign policy, he's losing. coming up, straight ahead, foreign policy. the ukraine, reaching a new high as pro-russian militants continue their siege, just acting in brutish ways. two of the best in the industry, dr. brzezinski and david ignatius. first, dylan dreyer joins us with the latest on the deadly tornado outbreak next up on "morning joe."
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a couple ready to get into a bathtub right in the area. as you said the waters, the flooding historic? >> they're saying i haven't seen it like this like ever. like to the 1950s. it's going to be 60 years. we're getting crests on rivers now that we haven't had in many hurricane. this is a live shot from pen pensacola towards the downtown area. this is all around the region the water's starting to recede, too. we're adding up the damage going through the days. there's a 4-year-old girl in a kayak in her living rolf in gulf short, alabama. the water came down so fast. six inches of rain in 45 minutes in pensacola. imagine that six inches of rain in 45 minutes. there's no water in the world that can add up that much rain that fast. it's starting to slowly move out now. even destine got nearly a foot of rain in the last 24 hours.
panama city, flash flooding going. mobile was horrible last night. they had amazing water rescues done by the firefighters. the rain's going up the east coast. the worst of the flooding is by far down by areas of north florida. it's interesting we didn't get the tornadoes yesterday but we did have this horrible flooding. and we're still actually recovering from the tornadoes that we belt with two grace. we want to go to nbc's dylan dreyer in mississippi where everyone is still getting out of the shock stage, aren't they? >> reporter: they certainly are, bill. but get thing is there's a whole different feel to the air in pearl, mississippi. we've lost that humidity indicating that there are no new storms in the forecast today for this area. residents were allowed back in this neighborhood to begin to sift through the rubble and try to pick up some of the pieces of their lives. unfortunately, the same can't be said everywhere. those deadly footing conditions continue as the storms slowly spread east.
and people realize the devastation from these storms and let that settle in. from hell to high water. firefighters had to rescue this man from a fast-moving creek in mobile. as lightning lit up another stormy night in the south with hundred us of reported strikes from the mississippi delta up into georgia. >> it's touching down. it's touching down. >> reporter: more than 130 twisters reported since sunday. from kansas. >> did you see what happened to our house? >> reporter: -- to north carolina. >> we ran into the house. and trying to hurry up and get everybody in the bathroom. >> reporter: but a branch which hit this house came crashing in. the human toll is growing with more than 30 people dead, among them john servati a swimmer at the university of alabama. friends say he died a hero holding up a concrete wall long enough for his girlfriend to get out from under it before it
collapsed on him. >> john did great things every day. of the fact that he does that did not surprise me. >> reporter: and did wassom, an iraq war veteran shields his two young daughters. >> he loved his girls, loved his wife. >> reporter: wassom's father found his son's photo in the wreckage. >> man, he was a good boy, guys. i wish you knew him. >> reporter: in pearl, mississippi, angie coleman took us through what's left of her mother's home. >> this is her place. >> reporter: she said her mother usually ignores the warnings. but what made her leave this time? >> she had her grandbabies with her. that's the only reason they left. >> reporter: they got out safely and later found the dog they left behind at a nearby animal shelter. >> i love you. >> reporter: now, since sunday, the biggest concern has been for all of those tornadoes, more than 130 tornadoes as you just
heard. but now the concern is for that flooding. like what we're seeing in the panhandle of florida. these storms are very slow moving, bill, as you know. and now it's the east coast that could see perhaps an isolated tornado but it's more a threat of straight line wind gusts and more flooding as the rain comes down. >> dylan, thanks so much. what a four-day stretch. finish it up with flooding and as you mentioned isolated tornadoes appreciate your work there in pearl, mississippi. joe, you got the gift ost of it. how about this heroic rescue. a firefighter went across the river just in a life jacket and a rope to drag that man across the raging water into safety. that was in the middle of the night in mobile, alabama. >> thank you so much, bill. do appreciate it. coming up next, how only one man took the fall for the worst economic collapse in financial
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theories. i don't think it's conspiracy. i think what was was learned incompetence. essentially they had a decade of fiascos and mistakes and adverse rulings. and that took away their skill set to not only -- >> is that the prosecutors? >> we're talking about the department of justice as a whole. they went through a series of fiascos over the decade starting with arthur anderson. >> right. >> and they took bad lessons from that and they pulled back the investigative capabilities. >> how much did the transference of resources or lack of resources, within justice, specifically the fbi after september 11 have to do with seemingly turn a blind eye to wall street? >> i think that's a big deal. the department of justice was undergoing hiring freezes at the very moment when the investigation into the final crisis were gearing up. they have unwound the postal unit which was an expert unit on complex financial investigations. so that's one of it.
but there was a failure of will. they were very worried about losing. and so they could have done more with the resources they had and they didn't. >> katty kay is in washington and has a question. katty? >> think it not conspiracy theories. i was wondering what you thought about elizabeth warren's piece in politico where she points to the close ties in washington and particularly the white house and people on wall street and some kind of suggestion that there's political expediency and that's why they haven't gone after wall street and banks as hard as they might have done? >> i think the bailout was certainly a major mistake because they sought to preserve specific institutions, so that was questionable and had to do with their ties. i think the dog prosecutors had to do with those ties. we saw a major prosecutor just going there now.
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basically said we have liquidity in stuff they actually pledged its collateral. this was the two cfos of lehman brothers. >> they could still be caught? >> no, it's all over. they did not even question in a serious way three offices of the department of justice and they didn't question the liquidity pool disclosures. >> jesse, thank you so much for being with us. we greatly appreciate it. we're going to lock for the article in this weekend's ""new york times" magazine. >> coming up, we'll have bob costas at 8:00 joining us. david axelrod will be here, joy reed and i think we may be able to drag chuck todd back to talk about the president's latest poll numbers. keep it right here on "morning joe."
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joy reed, host of "the joy reed response." >> you know they're listening to us. >> and you pick the phone up and say i'll be in. and right, willie? is that how it goes? >> in this house, that is the way it goes. >> exactly. we don't have planning calls. director of thence constitute of politics, david axelrod. also with us, chuck todd. they're going to be crunching some numbers and talk about what it means not on for the president for legislation as we move forward to 2014 but also for the election in november. first, willie, let's go to news. >> after promising due process to donald sterling, nba commissioner adam silver delivered a swift and severe
judgment against the clippers owner for his racist remarks. >> the views expressed by mr. sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. that they came from an nba owner only heightens the damage and my personal outrage. accordingly, effective immediately, i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers organization or the nba. >> so what does that mean exactly? it means no practice, no games? he cannot be at the clippers facility, cannot weigh in on any personal decision, he can have no interaction with the team he owns ever again. that's on top of a maximum $2.5 million fine, which is nominal considering his estimated net worth of almost $2 billion. the question is how long sterling will own the clippers. that's also in doubt.
>> i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. >> so, bob, there will be a vote of the owner, requires three quarters of the owners to vote to oust sterling. >> it will be 29-0 or 29-1 if sterling's interests exercise their vote out of the 30 teams. even if there are some owners that have some misgivings, not because they have any sympathy with sterling, but because they think there's something about the process that disturbs them, they can't run the public relations risk to in any way side with sterling.
sterling would be bound by that decision and the only thing the nba can do is ensure he gets fair market value for the team. does this man that donald sterling, who has the history of being one of the most litigious people in america won't find some way to sue, i wouldn't bet against that. i think he made sure all the ducks were in a row before he made his decision. >> he's only been there three mens or less it and that. i think the only thing he could do, he didn't leave any breathing space, there no
criticism if you think sterling should be out of the league. >> the only criticism i've heard, there are some people concerned with the possibility that sterling's family could retain control of the team and you could have one of these situations where he's whispering in somebody's ear or calling from an unlisted phone. i don't think that will happen. i think they will line up a credible buyer, make sure that person passes muster and is above reproach. >> the nba has done what they had to do. but if there's any soul searching that comes out of this and any time something happens, they go now we're going to have the conversation we should have on race and we never do, the nba has to answer some questions. >> yeah. >> this guy obviously racially insensitive. elgin baylor sues for racial discrimination. this was a very open secret, yet the nba allowed this guy to
continue doing what he was doing until he was taped illegally. what does that say about the nba and david sterling's tenure? >> adam silver yesterday said it. you have a guy that's got this behavior and this is a sanction being taken only for the specific phone call, not accumulated past behavior. i was a little thrown off by all the high fiving, i have to say, yesterday. there is no finality to this while, first of all, he's still profiting from the team, which has just become even more profitable, the more games they win in the playoffs, the longer they stay in, he could walk away with an $700 million, $800 million pay day and his family is still profiting from the team. i wonder if the nba all coale e coalesced to save the season and the profitability of the league. there was one guy who represents
the players who say we need a timeline, a timetable, that's when this will be over, when this guy is no longer associated with the team. >> there are obviously larger issues than just basketball and one franchise here. one of those issues as bob costas and willie and joy just alluded to, there are other owners who knew about this guy, knew his background, the department of justice suing him. the issue is not just among nba onners but in our culture generally, they separate, other, that was donald in business. this is different now. now he's really crossed the line. what he did, discriminating against people in housing, that's just business. >> there's no question the attitudes he displayed on the phone -- the notion that he can discretely run the team by making phone calls, i think this
is a guy who will think twice about making discrete phone calls in the future. >> i don't think he knows what a discrete phone call is. >> i think mark cuban expressed concern about where all of this goes. i don't know what the business practices of all of the owners of the nba are but i think if you start scrutinizing them, you're going to find issues with more than one of them. >> and bob costas, mark cuban said what he did for a reason. there are other owners who might have believes that might be offensive to corporations. >> quite possible. i doubt anyone comes near to donald sterling. i'm not being naive by saying there aren't racist attitudes lurking in the shadows but somebody like sterling is an
outlier. >> how could that happen? >> he bought in in '91, they regret it, they couldn't find a way to oust him without a court -- >> did they ever try before? >> i couldn't say but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't lead him in that direction. i have to say in defense of david stern, no one is perfect but he ran the most progressive sports league in america for 30 years. you walk into the nba offices not five years ago but 25 years ago and up saw african-americans and women in positions of real responsibility, real responsibility. it wasn't just on the court, it wasn't just in the coaching ranks. it's so common place in the nba for general managers, for coaches, for league executives to be african-americans that you get the ideal situation, it's not news when they're hired and not news when they're fired.
>> bob, you know what strikes me? i've been a season ticket holder for the chicago bulls since 1976. when i bought my season ticket, i think it cost $6 each, each seat. we had a very, very class mixed, race-meksed crowd. it struck me when i heard sterling's comments when he said don't bring blacks to the basketball game is we don't have great class and racial mix in the audience. so the truth is the nba has priced itself out. >> yes. there's some of that. there's definitely some of that. >> maybe if he had a more mixed -- maybe if he had a more mixed crowd, he'd have at least to think about what he was saying. that's one of the things that bothers me about the nab be in and i love the nba, is that the average fan, white and black, has been priced out of the arena. >> and at the owner level you
don't have that diversity. and i do think that sports in general has been ahead of the rest of society often in our history in terms of recognizing the need to integrate and also just the experience of people playing together, working together has created more tolerance. but you also had a situation where doc rivers was working for a man that he must have known, must have experienced to have these horrible racial views. you have to wonder a little bit how can you tolerate a league that is predominantly african-american on the court, where you have a black coach working for a man who is demonstrably behaving in racist ways. elgin baylor's credibility i'd put up against his every day and the work environment -- the players may not have been dealing with this guy but the coach experienced it. you wonder why wasn't anything done over time? >> those questions will be asked not on about what happened inside the clippers organization but also within the front office of the nba. like you said, everybody's going
to clean this up, they're going to high five each other and then they'll have to ask how this guy was able to stay in power for 30 years. we have, chuck, the new wall street journal polls coming out, we want to talk about that, the president and the 2016 campaign. you asked the question of president obama on this issue. tell bus about it. >> i gave him the option to comment. i thought what was interesting was he had a lot to say, he wanted to do that. after that press con presence in malaysia, i talked to a few of his aides and he was telling me he was prepping them and he knew everything about sterling's past, he had been following the story very closely and he saw the opportunity as a way to sort of raise the bar a little bit for the nba. he named by name dropping commissioner silver in there, to have him realize that this is the action that needed to be taken and hoped that whatever it
took, you know, to have more public comments, add more weight to the issue, to encourage the decision that the commissioner ended up coming with. so it just was fascinating to find out how much not only that it want his staff prepping him but one of those cases the reverse. that's how closely he had followed the story and how much he knew about sterling's past. >> i think in many ways the last four days have shown the strength of the nba, not just adam silver but magic johnson, charles barkley -- >> and a number of white players, too. >> yes. this in many ways was a good moment for the nba. >> i think and i don't want to be naive here, but this guy is such an outlier, that i think is speaks well for the progress -- still plenty of progress to be made but the progress that has been made.
no one's trying to make excuses for this guy, no one's trying to soft pedal what he did. there is strong, outspoken disapproval from every place on the spectrum, conservative, liberal, moderate, black, white. there may be guys lurking in the shadows like donald sterling but there's no place in mainstream america for these attitudes any longer. his biggest punishment is that he's a pariah. he's 81 years old. i don't know how much longer he'll be around. there aren't many places he can go without people averting their glance for the rest of his life. >> it's a matter of time now for him in the nba. please, as a yankee fan, keep going to fenway. i appreciate it very much. >> actually go, to yankee stadium, they need the fans. >> i went to yankee stadium last night and they lost. >> you were one of the three people there. >> i had to call the game.
there were about 5,000 people shivering. >> a little sparse. >> a little sparse. >> we've been break down the nbc news/wall street journal poll this morning. 21% of voters had a positive view of jeb bsh, 32% negative. and when asked about former first lady barbara bush's comments that there were quote, more than two or three offices that should run for high office in america, 69% agreed with that statement, 25% disagreed. chuck todd, what stood out to you? >> i think what stood out was jeb bush. the last time we measured it, in the last year, his numbers have gotten worse, not better. he's become more prominent over the last two or three monies,
he's been more public, he's gotten more attention, partially because christie has had his on political problems but he's gotten attention as the establishment alternative front-runner. you have to be concerned if you're jeb bush. as you've gotten more attention, your numbers have got i don't know worse, not better. as you've become more public, your numbers have got i don't know worse, not better. he's okay among establishment, pretty much a 2-1 establishment rating. among tea party republicans, he starts with a net negative and then contrasts that to rand paul, who is enormously popular with tea party republicans, which is half the party, has offer 50% positive rating. no other person right now that we've measured has gotten over 50%. these weren't good numbers for
jeb, especially when you consider the more prominent he's got i don't know over the last three months. >> the poll finds the world wants to pull back from the world stage. you've always said that's not a positive for the president. the ukraine numbers, it seems like the americans don't want to be involved in foreign policy but they still expect everything to go wonderfully in foreign policy. so the president has a difficult situation with vladimir putin and suddenly his leadership is called into question. what do you, as a guy who has read far too many polls in your lifetime, how do you have dissect that and what do you tell politicians moving forward what americans expect from their foreign policy? >> i think one of the hangovers from the long war in iraq and
afghanistan is people really have turned inward, that combined with the economic climate has turned inward. the reason rand paul is doing better than jeb bush is he's fundamentally anti-institution -- every institution is polling badly. the military does all right, but they're not doing as well as they used to be. and, secondly, people are turning inward. so we have a country that is more isolationist, anti-institution, people feel they're not getting a fair shake. the other thing i'd say, joe, about the point that chuck was making about jeb bush is jeb bush has two problems. one is the name bush, which is still not a popular name in our politics. the second is that he's an establishment guy but he's a guy who has been ready to take some
stands on common core standards, on immigration, that are completely antithetical to the base of his party. i still think he could be a strong general election candidate, but i'm not sure how he gets through that process without making major, major compromises that would make him a bad general election candidate. it's very, very difficult to -- >> joy? >> the theory of the case for people around jeb bush, at least i talked to and i'm sure you know a lot of the same people was that at a srn point the tea party wing of the party would become unpopular enough that essentially the party would come back to him and if he waited long enough, the bush brand would improve over time. that theory, the problem this that theory is the tea party wing of the party is unpopular in the -- at large, but within the republican party it's still the majority, it's still very
strong. so somebody like a rand paul is in a strong position. >> that is the paradox, the things that would make you a strong general election candidate make you a difficult primary candidate in the republican party. until they solve that problem, they're going to have a hard time winning a national election. >> chuck, be the magellan for us. if jeb bush gets in on those first three or four republican primaries that he would have to endure. >> it starts in iowa. we've already soon the establishment has ebb senssenti lost iowa three, four straight times. what works in iowa is an evangelical populist, mike huckabee won. new hampshire should be better terrain for him but new
hampshire has a libertarian streak so you could see rand paul also doing pretty well there. the one up side for jeb is if hillary is not contested. but then you get down to south carolina and, again, an evangelical populist is what's going to end up being more likely to win down there, not somebody like jeb, particularly if you look at the issues of common core and all this. i think joy brings up the correct point of what's sort of jeb bush's problem because of the popularity of the tea party. now, that said, we may be going through a month, this month is going to be the biggest test the tea party has had in a long time for survival. they could get shellacked this month and not win in any test they're contesting. i don't think the establishment beating them back will somehow
still hurt the tea party movement or at least the position that people agree with inside the party and that's going to be also troublesome for jeb. >> all right, chuck. thank you so much. what do you have planned for "the daily rundown"? >> a will the more on the poll, more on the clippers. i got angus king talking about money. the koch brothers have higher name i.d. among democrats and that they do independents or republicans. they're talking to themselves on the koch brothers. i don't think it's penetrating with persuasion voters. >> that's what i've always said about certain wings of my party. doesn't really do a whole lot of good if you're just preaching to the choir. you got to actually turn around and talk to the congregation. thank you so much, chuck. looking forward to that. joy reid, stick around with us if you can. coming up, in ukraine, pro-russian militants are storming offices and taking over
more government buildings. we're excited to have dr. brzezinski and david ignatius back together. we'll ask them if there's anything president obama a can do to get vladimir putin's attention. but first, bill karins, what's the weather going to be like? >> epic amounts of rainfall in southern alabama and this is from the pensacola area last night. i-10 has been shut down for the last eight to nine hours, people stuck in their cars, can't move, just waiting for the water to recede. there is literally a river running over i-10. weep just got word that they're going to open it quickly. maybe they did already. those pictures from mobile,
that's a man clinging from a tree and the firefighter rescuing him. how harrowing is that? a weather watching outside of downtown pensacola, he had for the entire rainfall event, 24 1/2 inches of rain. no wonder that are dealing with historic event in the pensacola area. the fish river in southern alabama, that one just crested. that's good. a lot of rescues going on there. we could see isolated in virginia, north carolina, south carolina today and of course the northeast is cold and soggy and airport delays, hour maf in laguardia, two hours in philadelphia. those delays will probably build throughout the day. we'll bring you more amazing pictures from the gulf kcoast a
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♪ >> leave ukraine in peace and work with us together to create a strong ukraine, a ukraine that is not the pawn pulled at and tugged at between east and west but a ukraine that could be a bring to both. >> that of course secretary of state john kerry in the news this past week for a lot of different reasons. with us to talk about it from washington, former national security adviser for president carter, dr. brzezinski, the author of "strategic vision,
america and global power" and david ignatius, who is just returning from the trip to the middle east. dr. brzezinski, i want to talk to you about the stakes over europe. but first, the peace talks in the middle east have broken down. what's the next step? >> for the united states? >> well, what's the next step for this ongoing process that you dedicated a good bit of your life to, finding peace in the middle east. >> well, if they cannot be resumed, which i assume it will still be attempted to do, we should probably go public on what our view of what a fair settlement ought to be like. i think we have views on the subject. i suspect the views we have would be supported overwhelmingly by the national
security and probably by a majority of the palestinians and we shouldn't let some politicians over there paralyze the process for short, tactical objectives. >> dr. brzezinski, the president's plan to lead from behind with gadhafi seemed to work where you had the air bleed going out in front. it's worked in other areas as well and has drawn a lot of controversy. isn't it yours position that when it comes to middle east peace, the united states still remains the indispensable power, it has to be engaged fully and has to be aggressive and has to lead? >> absolutely. look at the american-israeli relationship? we're close friends, we're financing the country on a huge scale, more than any other nation in the world, we're arming it more than any other nation in the world so i think we have a say. in addition to it, we're important in the region and the region is important to us.
so we clearly have an enormous stake in the outcome. we have tried in good faith to promote negotiations in the par party, they have proven unwilling to be trustworthy. >> david ignatius, you have just returned from iraq and syria in the middle east. obviously another round of bombings in iraq recently, more bloodshed and the syrian crisis continues. what did you find? >> i've basically found that you've got civil wars in both countries. i talked to sunni iraqi military and political leaders who are waging a real campaign now against prime minister maliki in
baghdad. it's reminiscent of the worst days in 2006 and 2007 when the u.s. was trying to keep that civil war from breaking out and had some success. what a tragedy that after stopping the violence, the u.s. and maliki, the prime minister, have allowed it to continue. in syria, you have a brutal, bitter stalemate, those from refugee camps, meeting to talk to me, i have a feeling this is going to be a grinding war with thousands killed every month until the u.s. has a policy. people say we should start
talking to bashar al assad, but i don't think he can unite that country. the u.s. really has no obligation but to be a leader. everybody looks to the u.s. for guidance. >> we have david axelrod in chicago. david? >> dr. brzezinski, i read your piece on the you've crane. i have a question about vladimir putin. one of the paradoxes here is he seems to be gaining political popularity in russia for his actions in ukraine. at what point do economic sanctions shift that, or do they? does he shift the blame for them to the u.s. and does it continue to make him popular in his own country or can we erode his strength at all through economic sanctions that bring the russian economy down? >> i think we can. but only if it did no longer appear as his methods are
successful. after all, he grabbed crimea by force but nothing happened from the international community and the ukraine did not resist. he's not destabilizing ukraine and they don't seem to be very effective in responding to it. as long as that goes on, probably he'll have support from the russians who feel this is somehow or other a national self-assertion. but as soon as the sanctions begin to bite, i think that will begin to change and if we encourage the ukrainians to be firmer, by being willing to help them in republic cystisisting, providing defensive arms because there are indications the russians may want to swipe more territory and occupy the country. and last but not lease, at the same time we should offer the russians the possibility of a compromise. and in the article in the wall street journal to which i think
you refer, i outline a compromise. just if i may make one more point, i think the president by now should really speak to the country. this is a very dangerous international problem, potentially really dangerous. the president needs to begin to focus the country's attention away, say, from the nba to world affairs and in particular to the challenge that putin posing to international instability. >> david ignatius, off of what dr. brzezinski just said and off the fact that you just returned from iraq and syria, what did you find in iraq and syria, what's the level of expectation for the united states' role in the countries you just visited. >> i was on the borders of iraq and syria but was actually in
jordan doing this reporting. what i find is that people look to the united states in these increasingly chaotic situations for leadership and clarity. there really is no other country like the united states. they may hate us, be furious at us, but they still look to us for guidance. >> do you mean weapons? >> there are lots of different places, in dealing with civil war in syria, some program of training and assistance for the syrian opposition seems to make sense to me and a lot of people. i think president obama has decided on that. some additional efforts in iraq, done that through the uniformed military but other ways i think are ahead. in ukraine i'm struck by the way, as dr. brzezinski says, obama is trying to find this
rational path in which the u.s. doesn't take risks beyond what the country is prepared to follow up p through on and putin keeps not responding. i think that putin is digging himself deeper and deeper into a hole in ukraine but i keep waiting for him to realize it and recognize the long-run problems he's creating for russia. >> david ignatius, thank you so much. dr. brzezinski, thank you as well, always great to have you. david, thank you very much as well. joy, what are the president's options? i talked about leading from behind. obviously this president is reacting to 12 years of war, reacting to what americans want, which is less of a role. but you like at ukraine, look at syria, look at iraq. he may have to get out of his comfort zone and get more aggressive. i'm not talking militarily but
diplomatically. >> there are two questions. the american public tends to respond positive to the theatrics of toughness. we like our president to seem like the boss. but at the same time the american people don't want to actually get involved so walking that line is difficult. and this is a president who isn't that excited about doing the theatrics of the presidency. he's more of a mechanic, wants to do the mechanics of it. on the mechanics of it, the president is doing the right thing but the theatrics on it, that's where the question is. >> and theatrics, whether you're talking about fdr, the day after pearl harbor or ronald reagan saying, "mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall," theatrics is important and the president said it, "i don't do theater."
>> when it comes to vladimir putin, this guy is in it for the marathon, he has a six-year term. whoever gets the baton, they've got to deal with vladimir putin. the traction he gets now on president obama's water is part of president obama's legacy. by the time 2016 rolls around, who knows where he'll be. in 2008 he went into georgia, there are still russian forces in georgia. we'll have to wait and see what happens. >> coming up, twitter takes another hit in the markets as the stocks fall 11%. why earning announcements has wall street very worried, especially because they're actually making money. we'll be right back with more "morning joe."
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we're trying to get joy off the ledge right now, she invested it all in twitter. sara eisen, what's going on with the stock? >> investors were not impressed, even though sales doubled. it's the number of users that was a little discouraging. people are wondering whether twitter can have the same kind of growth and scale that facebook has, 255 million monthly active users. it was only an increase of 14 million. that was a little disappointing when it comes to growth prospects down the road. also gdp, our nation's economy
only growing 0.1% in the first quarter, barely growing at all. we have to caveat that, it was all weather, cold weather hurt spending, hurt the economy. we'll see what the federal reserve has to say about the economy. today is decision day for the fed, janet yellen, we'll get a statement out of the fed at 2:00 p.m. and it looks like federal prosecutors are nearing criminal charges against two major banks, doesn't have to do with mortgages and the housing crisis, has to do with tax shelters and other issues, like doing business with banned countries like iran. >> so the two big takeaways, joy's stock ruined -- >> she's ruined. >> wall street has answered the question, no, they can't add more and the u.s. economy flat
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they're being paid in beer. >> reporter: it's 8:00. he's an alcoholic. these beers might as well be their morning coffee. >> the first beer i'm shaking. one or two beers, it's over. >> reporter: the men are part of an unusual social project, a partially government funded program to pay alcoholics to pick up litter with beer. five beers, two in the morning, two at lunch and one at the end of their shift. that, along with half a pack of rolling tobacco, about $13, and a hot lunch. the goal, to get them off the streets where they drink all day -- >> i have control of my life. >> reporter: got it. >> it's better. >> reporter: and into a daily routine. >> they have something to do, there's a reason to get up. they have contact, fellowship and they're not drunk here. they only get five beers, which they need to feel not ill.
>> reporter: to understand how a program like this would get started eahere, you have to understand amsterdam as a whole, a place with very little taboos. even their home windows are rarely curtained. their problems, all up for discussion. so your mom died, your dad died -- >> and two brothers. >> reporter: and you wanted to forget everything? >> yes. >> reporter: ramone was sleeping on a train station floor before he joined the project. they all may still be drinking but they claim it's a lot less than before. marco is even trying to stop. do you think that this helped you stop? >> yeah. yeah, gives a rhythm to the day. >> reporter: a rhythm that doesn't just give them a chance to restore their city but their pride.
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bit. >> it will be in the profile when written, once got thrown out of a donkey show in amsterd amsterdam. >> how does one get thrown out of a donkey show -- >> i didn't get in. >> you learned about twitter today? >> i learned about #ineedthisjob. >> coming up, "the daily rundown," unfortunate picture, guys. unfortunate picture. numbers crunch. our new poll has some ups and downs for the president ash tie that bodes well for the republicans and hillary clinton hurting a bit from the barbara bush rule. money matters. a rare sight in the next hour with former supreme court justice john paul
>> always love those stories. staff sergeant william delay greetingç his five-year-old daughter at school after coming home from afghanistan. the bad, a cleaning truck slamming into the side into a plane in miami. the driver hit the gas stphefd brakes. the ugly. ranger fans and fire fans in a big brawl. >> that's it. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> bye. hey everybody. good morning. it is wednesday, the 30th of april, 2014. i'm anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. calling it the smoking e-mail. proof this morning on who really told susan rice to say this. >> it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. >> yeah, but that's not true. and talk about a double standard, one democratic
hold everyone accountable for their words. but who is policing that guy? >> there's [inaudible] clarence thomas. >> unfortunately for him that is not all he had to say. >> there is a reunion in a galaxy far away. the new star wars has its cast and some of the original faces are making a return. >> all right. >> mornings are better with friends.ç >> it's time for "fox & friends." >> welcome aboard, folks. live from studio e live in midtown manhattan where it is raining. but april showers bring may pneumonia. it's freezing out there. 434 -- 43 degrees. >> i heard tulips decided
not to come out of the earth. it is too cold. >> joining us is anna kooiman for elisabeth who has taken the day off. >> that's allowed. we have a live camera with elisabeth. we'll be dipping into her life throughout the day. let's talk about benghazi. judicial watches put in a freedom of information request to find out about memos and e-mails transferred during the time of the benghazi attacks a couple of years ago. it turns out if you ask the right way, if you try hard enough, you eídç up getting those memos and they turn out not redacted. >> the key is you have to sue them. we've done a lot of stories on benghazi but this is the one you've really got to pay attention to. because of this. as it turns out the white house had these documents they turned over to the house oversight committee. >> about 100 pages? >> how would you know because so much stuff was blacked out they were useless. judicial watch sued them under the freedom of information act. they went to court and
wound up with these unredacted things. who told susan rice to go on the sunday talk shows and say it was a video. now we've got these unredacted things from ben rhodes, barack obama's assistant and the deputy national security advisor, one of them entitled prep call for susan rice the day before she was on tv. it said the goal was to underscore that these protests are rooted in an internet video and not a broader failure of policy. it does not mention, according to sharyl atkissson who has written a blog, does not relate to terrorism. >> the national security council is basically saying the e-mail referring to protests going on around the region in cairo and benghazi, they were talking more about the flavor of theç region. that statement did not
address what fox news asked, which is where did you get this information about protesting sparked by the video, the attacks on benghazi on innocent americans, where did you get this information from? snorkelly ayotte was on with grate at that -- senator kelly ayotte was on with greta last night. >> we asked where the video reference came from. now we know it came from the white house. this is a dynamic where the president in the election was claiming he had been a good foreign policy president, had al qaeda on theç run. the other thing in this e-mail here that is very troubling is this reference to make sure you mention that al qaeda has been destroyed. then you saw ambassador rice on every single sunday show saying al qaeda has been decimated. >> blame it on the video, not on the president's strategies. it reads more like a p.r. strategy than it does trying to get the proper intelligence to the american people. >> remember it was seven weeks before the election,
and at that point the talking point for the administration was bin laden is dead and al qaeda is on the run, we've got them on the heels. what happened there proved that wasn't true. but sharyl attkisson who worked at cbs -- she resigned because she couldn't do what she wanted to do, specifically benghazi. ben rhodes, the president'sç assistant, his brother is president of cbs news. sharyl noted that in her blog. but jason chafits said the government tried to keep the e-mail secret because they initially had it declassified but then they classified, pwhrabgdz it out and sent -- blacked it out, sent it over and there was nothing there. >> i would say too they are
brothers. lindsey graham said this is the smoking gun that points to the whiteç house's efforts to shape the story of what was going on in benghazi. >> asked about whether this call actually happened, we haven't had an answer for that either. the subject line of the e-mail in the 4 p.m. prep call with susan rice and it didn't go out to just one or two people. it went out to a dozen of the president's closest confidantes including white house spokesperson jay carney. >> lindsey graham does say it is the smoking gun. charles krauthammer says it is the smoking document. >> he also went on to say, charles, he does not believe america will pay enough attention. >> because of the mainstream media. >> the main story yesterday has to be what was happening with donald sterling. it was up to the nba commissioner to step up and he did. he banned him for life and will force him to sell the team. then comes out opinions and almost universally people basketball association for
taking the proper steps but not everyone was pushing that. one congressman thompson said we've got to give the players more power and owners more power to oust this guy and have more control over what happens in this league because you need a two-thirds vote to get rid of a guy like donald sterling in this case. meanwhile, you have to wonder if congressman thompson is asking for a double standard when it comes to freedom of speech and saying things that are flatout in my mind offensive. >> he was on nation of islam radio. this is a democrat congresseao great state of mississippi. he says that clarence thomas, the african-american justice on the u.s. supreme court, is an uncle tom. he says mitch commonly is a a -- mitch mcconnell is a racist. he says republicans are antiobamacare because he's black. that is not true. any way, here is the congressman from
mississippi. >> mitch mcconnell will have the audacity to [inaudible] but the commander in chief that i don't care what you come up with, we're going to be against it. now, if that's not a racist statement, i don't know what is. >> there is uncle tom clarence thomas, this man doesn't even like black people. he doesn't likeç being black because every decision where color has something to do with it, he went against it. >> he also said he worked under three presidents, and they were never treated like this. really? george bush's intellect was slapped around every day. the majority leader called him a loser. bill clinton in particular was impeached. you saw the way bill clinton was treated in many respects. forget the way they're look at now. i don't think any of them had an easy time. >> he went on to say this antigovernment attitude is
completely newç just because we have an african-american president. we did reach out to his office and haven't heard back for a comment. >> we've got lots more news to tell you about. once again we turn to heather nauert. >> got news now to bring you at nine minutes after the hour. we break in with breaking news that came in overnight. prison officials try a new drug cocktail to kill an inmate but the execution is botched. the inmate died more than 43 minutes later of a heart attack. now all executions in the state of oklahoma are on hold. the man exploded after the first of three injections and then the execution stopped. some witnesses say the convicted murderer then tried to get up and talk. pretty gruesome description there. witnesses say he looked likeç "rambo." >> a guy with a shotgun came in. he shot the guard in the
belly and then he went inside and started shooting. >> police identified the gunman pwho shot up a fedex warehouse in georgia. he is a 19-year-old, a package handler for the company. etches armed with a knife, molotov cocktails and had bullets strapped to his chest. he shot six people before he turned the gun on himself. three are in critical condition. police not releasing a motive yet. amanda knox and her roommate fought over money before knoxç allegedly n knife, her off with a according to italian court documents that were just unsealed in that case. a court informant claimed convicted knox and her former boyfriend of murdering kirchner. knox was first convicted of murder about five years ago but the verdicts were overturned on appeal in 2011. in january a federal appeals court overturned the conviction. knox now in seattle was
sentenced to 28 1/2 years in prison. >> it is an all-star reunion in a galaxy far away. star wars episode 7 had its cast and there are plenty of familiar faces. harrison ford is back along with mark hamill, and then there is newcomers to the task. oscar isaac, best known for his role inç inside lou ellen days. adam driver, we hear he'llen -- he'll be playing a villain. the highly anticipated sequel hits december 2015. those are your headlines. maybe brian would actually like a movie. >> i saw one of them, didn't get through it, never saw the rest. >> probably fighting words for a lot of our viewers. you didn't like "gravity" either? >> too few people in theç
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regulation. now a liberal blogger is attacking the move saying, quote, this represents an utterly stupid and useless case of corporate welfare. rick perry is engaged in domestic financial terrorism. is rick perry probusiness? he sure is. he's probusiness and anti-american. >> strong words there. but is bringing jobs to your state really financial terrorism? here to weigh in is stuart varney. good morning. >> are you kidding me? >> isç there any validity to that argument? do you think tax breaks to steal business from another state, does this hold water at all? >> sheer nonsense. actually it is sour grapes. toyota goes from california to texas lured by less regulation and much lower taxes. that is not financial terrorism. that is a legitimate inducement to get money and jobs out of a high-tax, high-regulation, big-union state like california and bring them to a go-ahead, low-tax, low-regulation
state like texas. it is sour grapes from the left. >> isn't the whole idea when you're in business like toyota is -- and we should point out the big three were all in california once upon a time. one of them has gone to tennessee, the other now in texas as well. when you're in business, isn't the idea to make as much money as possible? and if your federal and state bureaucracies are charging you high taxes, figure out a way to payç less. in this case it's move to texas. >> it's good business. toyota wanted to build a brand-new headquarters. you can't build anything in california. they regulate you to death. there's rules and regulations for everything. what do they do? they listened to governor rick perry of texas, and went to texas where they can build a whopping great big new headquarters building just like that. >> you know what they're doing is saving the u.s. what concerns me, even though it is allowed, maximize profit if that is your goal for shareholders and make it more desirable for consumers. bow do you think overall weç are chase -- but do you
think overall we are chasing money out of the country and this is a good story because it keeps money in the country? >> nobody is higher with taxes than abu dhabi at 55%. we're keeping $2 trillion of money outside of america. it doesn't come back here because of those high taxes. and we're chasing corporations out like pfizer. pfizer is going to be domiciled overseas because of our high taxes here. it's on the big level, a country level which is exactly the same as the state level within the united states. >> right. and all these energy jobs in texas as well. unemployment rate lower than a lot of others. what can other states learn from governor rick perry? >> low tax, low regulation pulls in the jobs, pulls in the money. high tax, big unions, you're chasing money out of your state.ç that's what you can learn. >> fantastic. >> rick perry wins. >> stuart varney we're going to watch your show today. >> yeah, i'm fired up.
>> 11 to 1. >> are you going to be there? >> you take attendance every day. it's like romper room. >> romper room? >> yeah, you don't remember that? >> you hold up a mirror and saeup i see -- and say i see annç and i see steve. stuart didn't grow up in our nation, but welcome. >> 19 minutes after the hour kofplgt -- coming up, a country about to beat us as the number-one economy in the world. >> great. then good news. two guys came up with an idea to save the postal service. bad news? the post office said no thanks. the reason why, it's going to blow your mind.
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let's get up, let's get moving. quick headlines now. happening today, iraqis head to the polls to elect their first parliament since u.s. forces left the country in 2011. soldiers and police are manning check points. terrorists vowed to disrupt the vote with violence. china could surpass the united states as the number one economy a lot sooner than you think. we've been told it will happen in another decade or so. that's when you compare the total value of each country. but new data from the world bank says if you compare them by purchasing power, china will surpass america this year. brian, over to you. >> thankç you. $38 million is the u.s.
postal service total net loss in the past years. considering it only earns services from selling stamps and shipping services, you would think the agency would think of ways to save money and keep up with the times; right? according to our next guest the idea was shot down. here with their story, evan bair and will davis. cofounders of outbox. congratulations, outbox is up and running. and is doing great. describe what your service does. >> it enabled our users to check their postal mail from anywhere so you didn't have to go to your mailbox ever again. you could check it from your ipad and iphone. we were trying to bringç the postal service into the 21st century and had a fabulous following in san francisco and texas. >> you were up and running,
doing good. then what happened? >> we got a call from the postmaster general. will and i used to work in washington, d.c. we put on our suits, go to washington, met with the postmaster and its senior team. we go into this intimidating board room and gave a pitch. we said we're just a few guys trying to help build a great technology product that our customers love. we would love to find a way to work together. a few great linesç ensued. the chief digital innovation officer from the post office said no one is going to want it because digital is a fad. that was a doozy but the next one was better. the postmaster said those aren't our customers. he said our customers are a few hundred volume mailers and the product is junk mail on to the tables of america. >> they feel an allegiance to junk mailers who pay nothing to go into the
postal system. you were astounded by having said that so your goal was to win them over. as ridiculous as those wrepbts -- comments are, win them over. how did that go? >> we like to think of ourselves as occasionally persuasive peoplo but when you encounter the forces of bureaucracy, we don't think the people at the postal service are foolish. the reality is they have tons of incumbent interests like the unions and congress that make it hard for them to make good decisions about their business. we tried everything we could. we had lobbyists and attorneys and a public interest campaign. it just seemed to be walls too tall to surmount. >> the government has two things that startups don't have which is time and money. we operate on a fleeting time frame with very little money. and the postal service, even if we could take five years to convince them, a startup could never operate duringw; that time frame to create a successful company that consumers love. >> you know what i found
amazing is that the post office is on life support. even the biggest advocates of the post office knows it is borrowing loans in order to keep going, keeping people kphroeud. they should be embracing people like you with ideas like yours. >> that was our hope honestly. our passion and real calling is to create a great private business that creates a good or service that delights our customers. and we think when more people like us do that, us and dozens of others, that our society and country will really be on a great path. >> all right. we reached out to the post office, have not heard back. guys, thanks a lot. hopefully you can show stats on how well it was working and make legislators get on your[ @&c @@ side and force the post office into the 21st century. >> we appreciate it. thanks for having us on. >> the creators of outbox. straight ahead, no idea, --
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go keith kruger! something like that. >> what am i supposed to do? >> put a footç on each thigh, one on elisabeth and one on mine. yeah, there we go. and we go like go keith cougars! >> one, two, three whoo! >> you need to do a back flip out of that? >> i was so close to falling on that fake glass coffee table out of there. brian, that's what happens when you leave the show for a couple of minutes. we were talkingç about whether or not cheerleading is a sport. as it turns out, heather nauert was a cheerleader
back in the day. she was a cheerleader in -- it was middle school; right, heather? >> yeah. >> and your team was the cougars? >> i'm past 30, already a cougar. >> in your heart. >> i was a tiger. >> i was a chief. >> a what? >> i really can't help the conversation. i'm just trying to share. i was just trying to participate. >> you were not a cheerleader either? >> no but i've never been less accepted in a group in my whole life. >> we have extreme wepher. tornadoes and storms continue to go through the midwest and the south. >> now a new threat of flooding from alabama all the way up to new york state, believe it or not. >> we wonder where maria molina was because so many
places have been devastated. we find her in athens, alabama tracking this wild weather. maria, good morning. >> good morning. you're right, we're in a different state today in a different city but the scene is the same. more widespread destruction. in this area the national weather service confirming a tornado touchdown with winds up to 140 miles per hour. that would make it anç es-3. that is here in athens, alabama, where we have widespread destruction. we have a home behind me, as you can see, the roof blown off, walls are gone. and inside of it, it's unrecognizable, just debris littered inside that home. down the road in a trailer park, a mother and her son were killed by the same storm system. making matters worse, today we have the threat for flash flooding. when we got here to athens, alabama, last night we had heavy rain and there was a warning in effect that has been lifted here but across eastern alabama, southern
alabama and up to southern new england, you have a number of flash flood watches and several advisories in effect as well. this is a very widespread storm system impacting at least 18 states with those flood advisories. across the florida panhandle in pensacola, anywhereç between 5 to 11 inches have been reported. higher amounts have been possible in localized areas across parts of the florida panhandle. cars have been submerged. we have a number of warnings in effect there as well. at least one person dead in the florida panhandle due to that flooding. all of this flooding is on top of another round yet again of tornadoes. yesterday we had eight reported tornadoes in the state of north carolina where flooding was also a big issue there. take a look at this. >> we had about four and a half feet of water in our driveway. it was ohe hoods of both our cars, probably a good three feet of water in
our house. it turned our freezer over, washer, dryer. >> 135 tornadoes have been reported in our multiday severe weather event. we do expect more severe weather possible today across the eastern third of the country. stay safe. let's head over to you in new york. >> maria molina, thank you very much. the key is about the flooding because down along the panhandle i was reading, some spots are going to end up with 25 inches of rain. 24 minutes before the top of the hour. there she is right over there, the retired cougar cheerleader. >> long ago retired. that was a lot of fun yesterday. from flooding to fishing, listen to this one especially if you like tuna. tuna fish caught off the shoreç of oregon is now known to have elevated levels of radioactive particles in it. it is believed it is from the fukashima disaster. researchers studied 26
specific albacore and found a slight increase in the levels there. they say you would have had to consume thousands of pounds of fish for it to raise any eyebrows. illegals are now eligible for in-state tuition in virginia. virginia's attorney general announcing illegal immigrants who came here as children are now eligible forç cheaper in-state tuition. the students qualify under the dream act which was created by the obama administration. in the state of wisconsin, a federal judge striking down the voter identification law. the judge ruling that the requirement that voters show a state-issued photo i.d. at the polls is an unfair burden on poor and minority voters. there are 31 other states with laws requiring voters to show i.d. at the polls. this is a fun story to tell you about in a way, i guess. twerking landing three women behind bars in the state of oregon. it all started when one went to city hall to pay a fine after she and her
friends celebrated by twerking outside this building. they then exposed themselves and drove off. police followed them, stopping them at a highway. they found pot, cocaine and prescription pills in the car and they arrested them. sorry we don't have that twitter video -- twerking video to showç you. twerking. i'll get it out. good morning, brian. what have you got over there? you got sports? >> i got to tell you what's happening in the world of sports. the clippers owner donald sterling banned in the afternoon. how would the team play at night? they were greeted with a standing ovation. chris paul said he almost was brought to tears. the clippers played extremely well. they beat the golden state warriorsç 113-103. they take a three game lead in the series. elsewhere, an unbelievable first round, thunder and
grizzlies in overtime for the fourth straight game. grizzlies win 100-99, talk about upset, that is exactly what the wizards pulled off. they knocked the chicago bulls out of the playoffs, 75-69. wizards win game five. they advance to the next round. in nascar, we showed you about the fight over the weekend. nascar slapping stiff fines on drivers marcus ambrose and casey meirs for fighting. >> there's a punch, a swing skh-pl this is not ultimate fighting on fox. this is nascar on fox. >>ç amprose and mears were fined. mears said we're a couple of guys and passionate
about what we do but we're on probation until may 28. can you run a five minute mile? what about while chucking beers? this man won the record for the beer mile. he finished with an impressive time of 4 minutes and 57 seconds. youç could get yourself a sponsorship. there have to be gas pains. >> he's hydrating. >> you don't hydrate with alcohol. >> no but during the boston marathon, at one stand there was beer, doughnuts and cigarettes. we're on mile 20 and a guy stops to chug a beer with his buddies. i couldn't believe that. >> i have not seen that in any of the runners world magazines. >> 20 minutes before the top of the hour. meet the latest victim of
the death of common sense, this honor student expelled for having a tiny pocketknife in her purse. she joins us next. >> where were the air traffic controllers on this one? where a truck slams right into the belly of a plane on the tarmac. >> we're going to see it inç a little while. >> you watch. >> not yet. ♪ ♪ jeff... hey, scott! this is no time for lollygaggin', lad. the chickweed and the dandelions are wreakin' mad havoc! now's the time to send in the scotts turf builder weed & feed, man! it kills weeds while it feeds and strengthens your grass. feed your lawn. feed it!
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i've got to show you this video. watch this. it's a cleaning truck slamming into the side of a cargo plane in miami. the driver hit the gas instead of the brakes. the plane carrying flowers for mother's day was repaired and put back in service. that's all i have to say. >> that'sç enough. meanwhile, an honor student is expelled for the balance of the school year after that pocketknife was found
inside her bag in her school locker. she admits she made a mistake by accidentally leaving it in the bag but says the punishment does not fit the crime. she and her father join us from the great city of minneapolis. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> alyssa, why did you have a knife in the bag? >> my boyfriend lives on a farm and i help him with chores. the only reason i got the knife was to help him with chores and i only used it a few times because he has like a lot of knives. that's the only reason i even had it in there because i forgot i threw it in my purse. >> you had probably had the knife a number of times, but you forgot to take it out of your purse when you went to schoolç that day; right? >> yes. >> how did they find it? >> on tuesday, april 15, they had a dog search and they smelled perfume in my locker and like tanning lotion and they found it in
there. then they called me down to the principal's office and wanted to give me suspension. >> okay. and then you told them that, look, i left it there by accident; right? what else? >> and i told them it was by accident and i told them like the story that had happened, like that i helped my boyfriend with chores on the farm and iç threw it in my purse that weekend, that last weekend. >> rick, you -- go ahead. >> they only thought i should get a three-day suspension because they knew i was a good kid and never got into trouble. >> then the school board took a look at it, rick, and decided your daughter should be kicked out of school for the rest of the year. you've got a problem with this, don't you? >> i do. to take a good honor student and punish them excessively like this, it does no school for the kid, whether it is my kid or some other kid, it does no for .
it just teaches bad things. you know, the zero-tolerance policies are clearly not working and this is a clear-cut case of that. >> sure. from the picture we're looking at it looks like the blade might beç two, less than three inches long? >> right. >> what's interesting about this -- and you did talk about this, rick, because you have hired an attorney. you want your daughter to go back to school. she needs to get into a college and you don't want this as a black mark on her record. but tell us about one of the kids of one of the school board members who also took to school something classified as a weapon. >> there was a student that had a lighter that he actually forgot in a bag inside his locker, which is the same situation that whether his parent is a school board member or not should be no different than
whether or not he violated the school weapon policy or not. he ended up only getting a three-day suspension for that. >> he got three days for having what was classified as a weapon and your daughter got kicked out for the rest of the year because as it turns out the school board had a little flexibility when it came to the school board member's child. alyssa, how do you feel about going forward knowing that you made a little mistake, you owned up to it, but now they're killing you? >> yeah. i don't know. i think it's an excessive punishment like it's not just about me now. it's about everyone else who's gotten an excessive punishment too. i don't know, i just want to fight for everyone else too. rick, it does seem commonsense wise, she's been out of school already, said she was sorry. it was a simple mistake. where's the common sense? >> there clearly isn't any.
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they boosted him to white house victory in 2008 and 2012. now disappointment leaves many of them disillusioned. new study shows their level of trust in president obama has slid to 32% over the last four years. that's 12% drop. only 14% of millenials trust congress and 20% trust the federal government. how does president obama and the government lose the millenial generation? let's ask three of them who all already hold public office. alex morse, the mayor of holly oak, massachusetts. and two other guests. good morning. >> good morning. >> representative garcia, we'll start with you. you say this talk of hope and change is simply empty rhetoric. why? >> well, as you pointsed out, trust in government elected officials dropped among my littlials and the thing is, it's one thing to distrust your elected officials, but this
generation and the recent decade, we've seen that -- we have reason to expect that our elected officials, particularly our federal officials personified in the president, actively deceiving us, not just distrust. >> mayor, we've got a full screen to show. in 2008, the youth vote, president obama had 66%. 2012, 60% of the youth vote. but come time now, they're having a tough time finding jobs out of school, disheartened about obamacare and having to subsidize the he saiderly. how do you think this will affect the mid terms. are they disillusioned by the democratic party? >> i don't think it's about a party or a person i have really think it's about a process. the same harvard study that was quoted in the national journal article showed that between the first and second term for both president bush and president obama, there were precipitous
drop in perception among millenials. i think what they're reacting to is the fact that the process is not built for progress. in fact, the gridlock is what's turning many of us off. mayor morris, let me ask you, you're an arresteddents obama supporter what about the other issue of student loans that millenials are facing? how is that going to affects midterms? >> i am a big obama supporter, and we're all about getting things done. i think president obama, when first elected in 2008, immediately came in to republican obstructionism in congress and so i think be it stabilizing student interest rates, that's something important to young people. young people wants to get involved not just in politics, but public service. that same article pointed out the volunteerism rate among young people. issues like health care and immigration and gun control, those things need a vote in
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good morning. it is wednesday, the 30th of april, 2014. aim anna kooiman in for allegation elisabeth. call it the smoking e-mail. proof this morning on who really told susan rice to say this. >> it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. >> meanwhile, the main stream media may not be talking about benghazi, but tim allen is in prime time. how he worked it into his show. >> you're going to want to see that. plus, george clooney surrendering his title as most eligible bachelor and now we know who is taking his place. who would that be? you're going to have to stick
around because mornings are better with "fox & friends." looks like the rid ther there -- riddler there. >> hi, this is henry winkler, you're watching "fox & friends". >> the riddler is the only bad guy to wear a unitard. >> what's his name? frank gorshen? >> yep. and that was the only thing he did, right? >> perhaps his best known role. >> how do you know the penguin wasn't wearing one? >> i was just informed superman was wearing one. >> super friends usually do. >> what did frank gorshen do. >> he was an impersonator. >> welcome back to short attention span newscast. anna kooiman is with us today. great to have you.
>> great to be here. >> we have a bombshell. we have done stories about benghazi but this is really important because despite what the white house told us over the last year or so, it looks like the white house is who misled the country on those talk points. remember siphon rice went out out susan rice said it was because of the internet video. now we know apparently there was a document from the white house, top advisor to the president who made it clear, let's not call this terrorism. let's divert people over to something else. >> yeah, ben rosen, assistants to the president, deputy national security advisor, he had an e-mail sent out to about a dozen people, including jay carney, but some of the president's closest confidantes, and the subject line said, 4:00 p.m., press call. here were the goals there. one was to underscore that these protests are rooted in an internet video and not a broader
failure or policy and the other one was essentially to reinforce the president and his administration's strength. so the idea was to try to make this look like it was not a failure of the president's policies, but just, of course, this video. >> so let me get this straight. now you have a direct link between the spinning of the message, the telling of the story and the white house. now this was done because judicial watch sued for it. originally these documents, i understand, were given up, but there were some redacted that makes no sense. but now you have everybody this was cced to. you have in the title saying prep. this is saturday night before the sunday shows. what does this mean? it means their shows are spinning in the message. the c.i.a. said we never said anything about a video. white house, according to sheryl atkissson, she said, can i just get a picture of who was doing anything during the attacks? she can not get a picture from the white house. she's just trying to get a
situation room shot like with the bin laden. out of frustration, what does it mean to the american public? charles krauthammer put it in perspective. >> we now have the smoking document which is the white house saying we're pushing the video because we don't want to blame it on the failure of our policies, which is what anybody who has looked at this assumed all along. before an election, obama saying al-qaeda is dead, gm is alive. he's running the foreign policy issue on which the whole campaign is based, is one that says he killed bin laden, al-qaeda is on the run. so this undermines the whole narrative, therefore, they have to invents the video. the fact that it was redacted when the documents were asked for and only revealed by a court order is telling you this is a classic cover-up of a cover-up and that is a serious offense.
>> see, he just summed it up so perfectly right there. keep in mind, the house oversight committee asked for these particular e-mail and the white house gave them a bunch of them, but they were -- somebody took sharpie you and couldn't read anything and it wasn't until judicial watch sued them that they got the clean copies. because of it originally an unclassified document. >> that they made classified. >> that anybody could read. when they realized, wait a minute, there is some heat here, let's cross it all out. sheryl atkissson who had been at cbs has a big blog post where she details everything. she said chaffetz tried to keep it secret. lindsey graham said this is clearly a smoking gun. he says this shows political manipulation by the white house after attack. they knew it was a terrorist attack and yet they were pushing the video as we know, to get the president relie detectorred.
>> yeah. you see the goal reads more like a pr strategy than getting the correct intelligence to the american people. meanwhile, four innocent americans lost their lives. >> let's change the subject a little bit. tim allen was on the "tonight show" and raised some eyebrows when he talked about the socialist state of california and everyone is like, wow, what is that about? we were talk being that two weeks ago. now in his final episode of his sitcom, he insinuating more unhappiness possibly with the government and its candor. >> he's a conservative and unlike a lot of shows on television, he actually puts that message out there. here is the finale over on abc last friday night from "last man standing," tim allen reminding people. watch. >> what did i do? >> that's the new security system. just punch 62262. it spells obama. >> real funny.
having obama protect us from burglars, can't even keep putin out of crimea. >> someone's got a new benghazi. >> benghazi is not over yet. >> he's a conservative. he doesn't just play one on television. >> yeah. and that's pretty rare in hollywood, right? i remember seeing clint eastwood on hannity saying these folks in hollywood, even if they are conservative, they're closet conservatives for fear of losing work or not being able to find work and being blacklisted there. >> sure. one of the reasons we highlighted that was because generally the way hollywood operates, the message is not conservative. it's all to the political left. that's why what tim allen did stands out. >> it's called integrity, something obama doesn't have with this benghazi thing. for that to be in that is interesting. >> look how more and more outspoken, even seeing him on sitter with getting into some conservative war of words as
well. >> indeed. so it is a very busy morning. about 8 minutes after the top of the hour and heather joins us with a troubling story out of oklahoma. >> it's really a pretty disturbing story. it's an important one that can affect other states. we begin with this coming in. prison officials try a new cocktail to kill an inmate, but the execution is botched and that inmate died more than 43 minutes later. now all executions in the state of oklahoma are on hold. clayton blocket's vein ruptured after the first of three injections and the execution was stopped. some say he tried to get up and talk before he died of a heart developments. i did it. just arrest me. those words coming from 16-year-old christopher plaksin after he stabbed his classmate to death. the 16-year-old has been charged as an adult. authorities in connecticut are still trying to determine if he
did it because she refused to go to the prom with him. he faces 60 years behind bars. a horrible story there. an al-qaeda terrorist backed out of an attack because he was scared? he made this confession while he was testifying in the trial of the hook handed hate preacher. he says he didn't go through with his role in richard reid's shoe bombing plot on a flight back in 2001 because he was too afraid. okay. now that george clooney is headed down the aisle, who is the most eligible bachelor? it is prince harry. the 29-year-old and his girlfriend of two years, have just split. sources say harry pulled the plug on the relationship because he found her to be too needy. the two were introduced by sarah ferguson's youngest daughter. anna, he's free. i know you have somebody in your life. should be a nice wedding there. >> this is why he broke up with her. it was all because he met me at the warrior games in colorado last year. i was just waiting on that.
>> you just can't tell the whole story. these are new briefs. the other thing is we know the strategy that george clooney fell into. playing hard to get. so do not return his calls. >> i think it's odd that harry's girlfriend was too needy. apparently she wanted to be treated like a princess. >> what's wrong with that? >> are you a step princess if you marry the second in command of the royal army? >> i think you're still a princess. >> i got to watch shrek again. >> that's the latest on harry. coming up, more on kerry, secretary of state john kerry, making a major gaffe suggesting our biggest ally could turn into an apartheid state. should the secretary of state quit? the guy who voted against him for the position, senator jim imhoff, he's next. then calling it the wheel of misfortune. the wrong answer that cost a contestants a free vacation.
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secretary of state john kerry trying to back pedal after he was caught on tape saying israel risked turning into an apartheid state. >> the israelis are furious at that. but this isn't the first time kerry has stepped in the diplomatic mud, shall we say. should we be surprised? oklahoma senator jim inhofe is a ranking member of the senate
armed services committee and a member of the senate foreign relations committee, one of the three senators who voted against kerry's confirmation as secretary of state. good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. >> what do you think about, first of all, kerry saying this apartheid stuff? he didn't know anybody had a recorder, somebody did. now looks bad. >> i'm not surprised. i'm not surprised at all. we made some comments about his lack of, i felt, allegiance at that time to our best friend in the middle east. keep in mind that in israel, the arabs have full citizens' rights. they have 10% of them of the kinneset has full rights and to associates that with apartheid is outrageous. but again, i'm not surprised. >> surely. one of the things that was said during the confirmation hearing was that if mr. kerry was selected as secretary of state, we were going to have trouble with israel because our president and then mr. kerry as well, not israel's biggest fans.
>> that's right. they associated -- that has to be a relationship there. the reason that he was chosen by our president. that's something we were aware of at that time. it actually came out in the hearing. so everyone was aware of it. and at that time, we also had some people quietly objecting -- the israelis, not any formal group, but they knew what was coming. >> surely. this shouldn't really surprise anybody. i mean, if you look at john kerry's history, there are a number of insulting gaffes. here is one from 2006 where he insults our troops. >> if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. if you don't, you get stuck in iraq. >> yeah, we remember that one. >> at the time that took place, i was actually over there and i will never forget the response that we got from our troops over
there. look, see, this goes back a long time. i can remember way become during the reagan administration when reagan came up with the great idea on f.b.i. knowing some day we would need it and it was kerry who coined the phrase, star wars, you can't hit a bullet with a bullet. so these things have been there for a long time. my objection, i have to say, has been primarily the fact that he's never thought any good ideas come from anywhere except a multi national organization. i'm talking about the new stark treaty that he was able to push through, the law treaty turning over 70% of the surface to the united nations, international criminal court. the whole arms trade treaty. do you remember that? >> sure. >> that means we would have to call the united nations before we could send a patriot missile to israel. this is the problem i've had for a long periods of time. and it hasn't changed. you read the quote there. that was a shocking quote. but listen to this quote and
this is what syrian president assad, after he killed tens of thousands of people. kerry said he is, quote, an essential player in bringing peace and stabilities to the region. then all this stuff on climate change, he said the climate change can now be considered the world's largest weapon of mass destruction. that's pretty scary. >> it's interesting you would talk about assad. so he was for assad before he was against assad, which we've kind of heard that before. now, if people would like more information or read -- >> the web site -- the statement that i made at the time of this confirmation, it's inhofe.senate.gov. you can get a lot more information. >> senator inhofe, thank you very much. >> thank you. 18 minutes after the top of the hour. next up, who do americans wants in congress? more republicans or democrats? we've got the numbers. stick around. we'll explain them all to you.
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>> how incredible isf punch with tornadoes and now we are seeing flooding across parts of the gulf coast. here in atkins, alabama, this is where an ef-3 tornado tore through the city with winds of up to 140 miles per hour. it did kill two people just down the road from where we're standing and we are looking at more severe weather possible today. like i want to mention, we do wants to talk about that flood threat, which is in place, from parts of alabama and even the florida panhandle, up into parts of southern new england. we have a number of watches in effect. about 18 states under some form of flood advisory or watch early this morning already. that's going to continue as we head into tonight as well as that rain continues to come down. yesterday we did also have eight reported tornadoes in north carolina. that's in addition to already all the other reported tornadoes. right now from the storm system, the multi-day severe events, 135
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country. big wigs are all participating. a lot of the companies do health insurance, now adding car insurance to the mix. this wheel of fortune contestants could use a drink after this big slip up. listen to this. >> i'd like to solve the puzzle. losing my shore excursion. >> no. >> isn't that when you're supposed to do? well, problem is -- she was wrong. book my shore excursion is what she months to say. you want to have her on, brian? >> we have to have her on. >> that's good idea. now that donald sterling is facing a lifetime ban and banned from the game for now and fined $2.5 million, it was time to get back to basketball. you can imagine the emotion in los angeles as the clippers came out for game five. the crowd gave them the standing
ovation. a lot of people holding signs, ripping materialing and a lot of the sponsor high school their signs covered up because he technically still owns the team. they used it as motivation when the game started. the warriors never a shot. they lead the best of seven three games to two. thunder and grizzlies. this might be the best series of them all. grizzlies heading into overtime against oklahoma. grizzlies won by one. they take a three games to two lead. now you talk about a series that's over, let's talk about the washington wizards. they won the series four games to one. they banged up the bulls. they advance to the next round. remember this fight in nascar? now they're slapping fines on ambrose and mears for beating each other up. remember this at richmond. >> there is some actual shoving
going on. there is a punch! a swing! is this thank is not ultimate fighting on fox. this is nascar on fox. >> because ultimate fighting is -- don't wants to you pack up like that. ambrose and mears were docked 25 and $15,000 respectively for trading blows following saturday night's race. mears told fox sports, we're couple of guys and passionate about what weigh do and will be on probation until may 28th. >> what about when fights turn up in the stands in hockey? all right. rangers and flyers brawling it out during the game. rangers fans started taunting them. the flyers fans don't think that's good. they started punching back. no one was laughing. they'll both play game 7 'cause the flyers won. that's a quick look at what's happening in sports. people angry in this world.
>> they are. although that video was disturbing issues the one guy beating up the other guy needed to pull up his pants. >> might have been some plumbers. >> could have been. brian just detailed how donald sterling, lifetime ban in the nba, also fined $2.5 million. ice going to get squeezed and have to sell the team. >> we think. >> they think. exactly. although he could put up a fight. what's interesting is there are a number of democrat congressmen who say that the league needs to go further and in fact, there are a couple of members of the congressional black caucus including congressman benny thompson who is a electricity from mississippi -- democrat from mississippi. he says the league's response was good, but they should have the power to go further. he wants the league to hold people more accountable. what's interesting is who is holding the congressman accountable for some of the crazy things he said on nation of islam radio. listen to this.
>> this man doesn't even like black people. he doesn't like being black because every decision where color had something to do with it, he witness against it. >> how offensive is that? justice thomas? can you imagine? he doesn't even like being black? >> that's a congressman. >> yeah! that's absolutely insane. calling him an uncle tom and calling mitch mcconnell racist. very often the democrats who say it's the republicans who are racist, but, listen to these comments. this is jaw dropping. >> he also said that president obama has been treated a lot worse than bush and clinton that
he saw up close and personal when bush was called stupid every day of the week, called loser by the majority loser, it's hard to -- a war monger. bill clinton in particular was impeached. so i don't know, were they treated easily and given a pass? i don't really think so. was nixon given a pass? i think also, he says when states opt out of obamacare, that was racist. >> sure. >> antigovernment sentiment is brand-new because we have an african-american president. >> and republicans, he said, don't like obamacare because the president is black. no, people don't like obamacare because it is more expensive than the old stuff. they got to drive two hours to see a doctor, and a lot of their doctors they didn't get to keep. >> the term racism is a term you shouldn't throw around. >> by the way, we did call the congressman's office, asked him if he would like to come on, we
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camera and look in her room. i woke my husband up and he ran in there immediately and when he walked in, the camera panned up and looked straight at him and started screaming expletives at him and terrifying. >> tormenting him. awful. here was tips how to keep the virtual intruders out of your home. cyber security expert. good morning to you. >> thank you. >> this is not the first time we've seen something like this and it cannot just go through baby monitors, but also web cams, on our laptop computers. how easy is this? >> it's resimple. and you could be done -- it could be continue with a cell upon. get a device that scans for networks. they scan the network here and you can actually see here that it's identified this open network, which means it's not secured with a password. so all of two do is double click on that. says connect to my home. now once we got the network up and running and we're connected to it, we run a little program that is going to scan that
network and identify wireless devices. if you look at this one little wireless device down here at the bottom, it's actually web cam. so all we have to do is get another little software program and actually just connect to that web cam and then we'll be able to see what's on that device. >> what's so startling this isn't some super high-tech expensive piece of equipment. >> exactly. once we got that device up and running, which is right here, you can actually see that, now we can actually move that by just moving this device and scanning that to the left. >> are you seeing this at home? this is nuts. >> we can do this from a cell phone outside somebody's house and down the block. incident that to go up, we'll make it go up. >> a lot of people are using more and more cameras in their home, not just for their infant. what can we do to protect ourselves? >> it's not these devices that the weakness is. it's the person configuring this. a lot of times we configure
these things without a password which is the encription part of it that actually secures that, prevents people from getsing on. number two, we want to make sure we have a firewall on the outside of our network so nobody can get in from that way also. and use a different password that you use from your encription of your wireless to access your camera. make sure that nobody has access to this. the nice thing about this, it gives you access to do what you want. you got to remember unless you do it the right way, the rest of the world has it also. >> yeah. keeping it locked isn't just for your neighbor's mooching off you. they could be watching you. >> absolutely. there is a lot of other reasons. look at all these perverts that have come out in the last couple years. again, this is nothing new. they're talking to babies through the wireless, which you can do through the cell phone. they've got to lock it down and do the right thing. if you don't know how to do it, get help. >> thank you for the info. >> thank you. >> 48 minutes after the hour. coming up, this fiance is pretty angry. >> set the date!
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to lobbying for commitment from somebody who doesn't want to commit to you? so you got to move on and get married, unless you're using this young lady as a way to not get married and blaming it on her. >> which we're going to need a deep session with her. let's move on to number two. my mother gets up early every day to watch casa blanca. she has it record on tv, blu-ray and dvd. normal or nuts? >> she's enchancing, but i have to say nuts because she doesn't love casablanca necessarily. this is an obsessive compulsive phenomenon. this is something you go to therapy to get rid of, maybe some medicine. don't let somebody named rick be your psychiatrist. >> number three, my husband has to have his own everything. he has his own shelf in the kitchen, own side of the table, his own laundry. is this normal or nuts? >> i'm not ready to say it's not normal.
okay. because if this is the only territory the guy is insisting upon, it ain't so bad. maybe he didn't have his own room when he was a kid. tq r:ujjut(sjját+ht this woman says the word is she got him because she played hard to get. does hard to get work psychologically? >> hard to get works psychologically. i wish it weren't so, but the truth is, people wants to be parts of clubs that won't have them as members, including women and men. >> so interesting. i think wood i don't allen talked about that. he always said he didn't wants to be part of a club that would have him as a member. dr. keith ablow. >> excepts his stepdaughter or adopted daughter. we got to get him on the coach right away. -- couch right away. >> thanks for talking to us this morning of the coming up, who would give back an adopted child? believe it or not, it happens and for a good reason. details on the dark side of an adoption ahead. plus, kenny rogers doing
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>> it's here, an all star reunion in a galaxy far away. the new star trek has its cast and some of the original faces are making a return. >> what's so funny? >> i don't know. i can't wait to see it. back on earth, more news are better with friends. >> i'm chloris leachman. >> today it's her birthday. congratulations. >> remember when you made her kiss me? >> yes, i do. >> you liked it, don't lie. >> i had to go see dr. keith ablow in boston to get over it. >> she's a tv legend. >> right. >> but it was a fake kiss. it was a fake tv kiss. >> so they say. >> anna kooiman in today for elisabeth hasselbeck who is taking the day off. she'll be back on friday. in the meantime, we've got a big story. we have told you -- how many times have you heard why is fox pushing this benghazi story?
there is nothing there. you're looking right there at a document that has been released. judicial watch had to go after it because a copy was sent to the house judiciary committee that was so redacted, so blacked out, you couldn't tell anything. now we know right there, according to those documents, that it looks like when asked who exactly told susan rice to go out on the sunday chat shows and say the benghazi was about the video, now we know after mike morell a couple months ago, who was at the c.i.a., said, we didn't give her that information. now we know the information came from the white house. keep in mind, this was seven weeks before president obama's reelection day. and they were doing everything they could to make sure that he looked like he was in control and that osama bin laden was dead and al-qaeda was on the run. that was the mim. >> that was the narrative they were trying to push. ben rhodes sent an e-mail to a dozen people, some of the
president's closest confidantes, jay carney was on the list, and in it, it said prep call, 4:00 p.m. for susan rice. and here is what it said. to underscore this is a goal of what the prep calls a underscore these protests are because of a video and not a broader failure or policy. it was to make it seem like it was nothing that the president was doing wrong in the region. it was all because of this internet video. >> right. think about it. double whammy for the president. he had a military action in libya, would thank would show chaos resulted and show terrorists are acting against and killing americans and he says al-qaeda is on the up and bin laden is done. he also said let's reinforce the president's strength on challenges. this is saturday night, everybody important in the administration is cced on this. senator kelly ayotte, who has been all over it, she said this about what this all means.
>> we always said r did the video reference come from? now we know it came from the white house. the president is claiming he had been a good foreign policy president, that he had al-qaeda on the run. the other thing in this set of e-mail here that's very troubling is this reference to make sure you mention that al-qaeda has been destroyed. then you saw ambassador rice on every single sunday show saying al-qaeda has been decimated. >> so that e-mail was from ben rhodes who was the deputy national security advisor and maybe -- if you're going think, if it's not the white house trying to be political, which is it clearly looks like what, could the white house have been doing? maybe they really believe that it was about the video. keep in mind, though, everybody who was talking to them, the people on the ground in libya, the c.i.a., they were all saying it's terrorism. it was an attack. what is curious, though, is
the -- and so that is ben rhodes. ben rhodes' brother is david rhodes, the president of cbs where sheryl atkissson used to work. she quit because she said cbs wouldn't let her do stories like on benghazi. she says that congressman chaffetz told her the government tried to keep this classified. they declassified it initially. yeah, you can look at this. then when they reallied the house oversight committee wanted it, they blacked out so much stuff t didn't make any sense. that's why judicial watch sued them. that's why we now know that it leads back to the white house. >> right. mike morell also involved there, saying, he was the deputy c.i.a. direct, i'll volunteer to go meet with hillary clinton to work out a message here because it looks too good for the c.i.a. because the c.i.a. knew this was dangerous and warned ahead of time and that they didn't wants to look basically too good and make the f.b.i. and administration look too bad. i feel bad for this guy, growingry hicks, who stood up and sounded the alarm and was
the whistle blower and he's paid in his career. >> fox news has continued to cover this and we'll continue to do to. now a look at what else is making news. >> good morning. talk being a story in oklahoma. it could affect other states. executions in the state of oklahoma are now on a hold after a new drug cocktail failed to kill an inmate immediately. he died 43 minutes later. clayton lockett's vein ruptured after the first much three injections that he was supposed to get. some witnesses say that the convicted murderer then tried to get up off the gurney and said man, before he died of a heart attack. this was the first time the state of oklahoma used the drug in an execution. other states, including ohio an( well. tuna fish cough off the shore of oregon has elevated levels of radioactivity. it's believed it's from the
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always remind me of darth vader, that noise. >> or a sleep apnea machine. >> right. >> thank you very much. all right. we know that one of the voter blocs that helped get president obama, the president job were the young people, millenials. harvard has a new poll out that shows that while there was a lot of hope and change back in 2008, a lot of the support that the president had has slid because they just don't like how it's all turned out. >> millenials who are 18 to 29, harvard did this study, so it's got to be right. so the trust factor was high at 44. now dropped to 32. also congress went from 14 to 4. the supreme court to 4. and the federal government down 2% from 20. >> james carvelle was on with greta last night and said this is hurting the democratic party -- hitting them where it hurts rather. >> i saw that poll, my day started out about as good as
donald sterling's. wasn't too good. that was one way to ask the question. i think asked another way and it was closer. the poll is not good. i'm not one of these people that says oh, trashed the poll. the poll was not good on a variety of frontses. if i saw -- in an abc, "washington post," generally a highly respected poll. sometimes they can be a little bit off. i'm hoping this is it. i'll wait and see the next one before i get my frustrate razor out. >> one of the things according to this particular harvard study is the millenials say look, mr. obama promised that he was going to change things. washington is a partisan place. i'm gog change all that, he said back in 2008. now fast forward to today, audients do it. and they view him as being part of the system that they promised to change. they're disappointed. >> it's not just the empty rhetoric. it's them graduating from college and not able to find
jobs. or the jobs they're finding, they're way overqualified for. they're upset over obamacare and subsidizing the older, unhealthy people. they're upset about students loans. it goes on and on of the and earlier in the show i talked to some millenial politicians who are already in office. take a listen. >> this generation and the recent decade, we've seen that we actually have reason to expect our elected officials, particularly federal officials personified in the president actively deceiving us. >> i think what millenials are reacting to is the fact that the process is not built for progress. in fact, the gridlock is what's turning many of us off. >> we're about getting things done. i think president obama, when first elected in 2008, immediately came into republican obstructionism. >> okay. either that or the number sticks out is 62% say that elected officials are motivated for selfish reasons.
so a bitterness and a cynicism. >> plus you got to figure that the millenials, they're disappointed with how it all turned out with obama. he's not running next time. so how will it impact whoever his party's standard bearer is? stay tuned. the one bit of good news i saw in this whole thing, the number one entity that the millenials trust, the u.s. military. the u.s. military above the presidency, above the supreme court, above the federal government. >> that was down 7% from where it was. >> the surge was after 9-11. after 9-11, about 60% supported the president. 70% supported the military. and 54% supported the congress. my, how things have slid. >> the polling is also showing that conservative millenials are more motivated to come out to the polls in the midterm elections and word is now that democrats are concerned about losing the senate and now vetting and processing federal judges to try to leave that for
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i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers organization or the nba. >> as for mr. sterling's ownership interest in the
clippers, i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. >> nba commissioner adam silver sealing the fate of donald sterling for his racist remarks. but will he walk away from the clippers without a fight or give a full court press? fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr. joins me now. good morning. >> i don't think the fate is sealed. i think there will be a full court press. >> he's fought before. >> given his twisted statements that we all know about around the world now, do we assume that there is any sanity or common sense, do we assume he's going to step away and say, okay. no mas. i'm done. i'll walk away. that becomes the question. so there is two questions. will he fight the ban and the fine? there is something called arbitrary and capricious in the law. if he says you didn't give me
due process, he could bring a courts proceeding. then number two, if the owners vote to expel him and make him sell the team, can he fight that based on antitrust, based again, arbitrary and capricious, based on the contract with the association itself? so there is a lot of questions in spite of what the commissioner has done. >> peters, when he bought it back in 1981, it was for something like $12 million. there are estimates it could be $575 million for now. >> more! more! >> so is it even really an argument for him to say you're making me lose my livelihood? >> absolutely. you can make the legal argument and i think there is a better than 50% chance he will. i think in the end, he will profit from his own despicable conduct. he will receive a price for this team that is more than he ever imagined it would be. but will there be a fight? will there be a negotiation? will he threatsen a lawsuit
against the commissioner? will he threaten a lawsuit against the owners? will he say what you did was denude, decrease the value of this team. the real fair market value of the team. in order to do that to get a higher price going forward. lot of people want to buy this. maybe magic johnson. a lot of people across america. but given what he's done in the past, do we expect a fight? yeah, there is a pretty decents chance that we're going to see a fight on this issue. >> what about the small portion of the people -- no doubt the comments were tough listening to these tapes. >> horrible. >> but he is tried in the court of public opinion. people are saying it's a rush to judgment. what's the argument on that? >> in terms of statements that we know about, i can't see that there is a rush to judgment. they're despicable, odious, wrong. they're foul, unamerican. it's not what any of us stand for in this country. but at the same time in terms of the property right, that's a totally different question.
this is unchartered territory in and lose money as a result based on private statements? that's a different legal issue. he's entitled to due process on that particular issue. there is no doubt. i see a fight coming. >> and there have been calls for people to boycott the clippers because of these comments. now there are calls for people to come and support the players instead. >> the bigger issue is why is there only one african-american owner in the nba? all the nba owners are making themselves feel good now that they've gone after racism. but why 80% of the players are african-american, but why only one majority owner is african-american in the nba? maybe they should look at that as well. >> good question. thanks, peter. >> good to see you. coming up, the united states about to get its butt kicked. the country about to beat us as the number one economy in the world. then who would give back an adopted child? believe it or not, it happened
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others like stuart varney says not so fast. steve? >> thank you. she had high hopes of motherhood as she set out to adopt a daughter from russia. but soon thereafter, our next guest discovered her daughter, julia, suffered from rad, reactive attachment disorder. it's a condition that affects thousands of orphans all across the globe due to abeen donement and neglect, among other things. that mom now sharing her story of her family and their ups and downs in the new book "rescuing julia twice." tina joins us live. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> you rescued her twice. the first time was? >> eight months old, siberian orphanage. got her on valentine's day, middle of the winters in siberia. and she was a beautiful baby. >> and you rescued her the second time when you realized something is the matters with my child and i got to figure out what it is. >> that's right. that's right. more importantly was we rescued her from herself. we rescued her from a dark
place, a place where she was incapable of bonding and attaching and feeling the benefit of love. >> that's referred to as rad. >> it's a condition that is typically affiliated with children who have been neglected or abused at an early age. it is common among children who have started their lives in orphanages. >> you picked up your daughter in siberia when she was eight months old. >> only eight months old. i had not been schooled in this at all. i had not been prepared for this. and it was confusing because she was such a beautiful baby. she's a beautiful young girl now. however, we had been given all sorts of warnings potentially about physical problems, but physically, she thrived. she was strong. she was powerful. she was healthy. she met milestones. so there was this confusing dichotomy between the physical
vancements and what was happening for her emotionally. it was very confusing for a new mother in her 40s in the first child. >> i'm sure you thought i'm doing something wrong. >> that's exactly right. that's exactly the problem. and possibly most of all, why i've written this book. i was so much in the dark. i was so filled with despair. i was so confused and so convinced that i had made haggai grantsic mistake. >> in particular, you were moved to right this book after you heard about a family about three, four years ago that had a child with the same problem, sent him back to russia. >> 2010, tory hanson, a single woman, she literally returned her 7-year-old child on a plane to moscow by himself with a note attached to his sweatshirt saying this child is psychotic and i can't parent him. and while her experience was very different than mine and while the world viewed her as a monster and she didn't make a great decision, i understood what was behind that. i understood how difficult it was to try to parents a child
who won't accept love. >> sure. how many times with your daughter were you to the points where, i can't take it anymore? something is the matter, either with me or her or us. >> it never occurred to me to return her. >> of course. >> i was deep in despire. i was scared. in those early days, those first couple of years, i would think a we were never going to be a family, that i was never going to truly be this child's mother that when she said mommy, that it would never be authentic. >> you know what's interesting about your story and you're very brave for telling it, is when you see on tv about these celebrities, they adopt these international children, looks so easy. everything turns out great. >> angelina jolie makes it look like it's an idyllic situation. you have a little troop of orphans, internationally adopted children and it all melds perfectly. that is not reality. >> it's great you are making people aware of rad in circumstances. the book is called "rescuing
julia twice." thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> good luck to you. >> thanks. 26 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, should illegal immigrantses be allowed to pay in-state tuition. we'll tell but it. plus, kenny rogers doing something he's never done before. he joins us live coming up. ♪ ♪ what does that first spoonful taste like? ok. honey bunches of oats. ching! mmmm! mmmm! mmmm! wow! it's the oats. honey. yeah. honey bunches of oats. this is a great cereal.
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♪ know when to hold em ♪ know how weather to walk away and know when to run ♪ ♪ you never counts your money when you're sitting at the table ♪ ♪ there will be time enough four counting when the dealing's done ♪ >> yeah, that was the day heather nauert became one of the back up singers to the kenny rogers. that's what happened last time kenny was on our "fox & friends" program. this morning kenny is back. he's about to reveal something that he has never done before. he joins us on the line from the kenny rogers casa. good morning to you. >> good morning. please don't show that selfy. >> wait a minute. that's what we're talking about. the announcement is, you have your first ever selfy and here it is right here. >> it could well be my last. >> tell us the circumstances about it. >> something is back.
>> oh, my god. i look like i'm 104. and i'm four years younger than that. it's so funny. everybody said you got to do a selfy. so i said okay. i'll did one. i took that and i went oh, surely i look better than that. i'll do one with full make-up on next time or something. but i really wanted to just show everybody that i have grown my beard back. >> all right! >> it is back! >> is this the first time that anyone has seen you with a beard? >> i had it for 15, 20 years. then my wife is an identical twin. she and her sister were arguing back and forth about should we cut our hair, should we not. i said guys, it's just hair. cut it. it will grow back. and so she said, if that's true, you might as well shave your beard. so i went in and i had a months off and i was shaving it from the side burns down. and i got to the little goatee
and i really liked that. so i thought, i'll stay here. for the last year, my boys -- we have identical twins, nine years old. and they've been saying dad, we want to see with you a full beard. they wants sure it was really me, i think. >> so how long are you going to grow it? santa claus style or are you keeping it short? >> i try to keep it cut back as best i can 'cause -- i try keep it manicured. >> listen, the beard is back. it's a hash tag now. you just revealed it. can we get this thing trending? >> i think that's our job today. everybody watching on twitter and facebook and all those other social media sites, go ahead and let's get it trending. it is the beard is back. to commemorate your first selfy with the beard back, we're going to try to put you at the top of the list in the next 15 minutes. okay? >> thanks so much. anna, i don't think you knew before i shaved the beard.
i appreciate you guys' help. >> my sweet papa used to listen to your records all the time when i was a little girl. i've been with you for a long time. >> very nice. i appreciate it. thanks for the help. the beard is back. >> #thebeardisback. thanks very much. >> they're even singing harmony there. we have another extreme weather alert to tell you about. we're following this, the deadly tornado outbreaks this morning. millions from alabama to upstate new york facing severe flooding threats. >> maria molina is live in athens, alabama tracking the wild weather and today anna, more severe stuff perhaps on tap. but the major concern, the floods. >> yeah. it is terrible out there across parts of the panhandle of fellow there. they've already picked up more than a foot of rain and those rainfall rates, very heavy as
well, between one and try inches per hour. that's very dangerous stuff. but i want to mention, i'm in athens, alabama. this is an area that was hit hard by a tornado. two people were killed here. the national weather service has called this an ef-3 with winds up to 140 miles per hour. that's here in athens, alabama. again, two people were killed here. the storm system continues moving eastward. that flood risk extends from parts of florida and alabama, all the way up to parts of the northeast, including southern parts of new england. states like connecticut, parts of massachusetts and upstate new york could be looking at some flooding for that very same storm system that produced up to 135 reports of tornadoes. there is still a risk today to be seeing more severe weather. yesterday we had eight reported tornadoes in north carolina and flooding there as well. that added to that number, making it 135 reported tornadoes from this multi-day severe weather outbreak and again, like we mentioned, flooding a big
issue and severe weather possible yet again in the southeast. isolated tornadoes, and damaging winds possible. let's head over to you. >> all right. we'll be glad when this week is done. thank you very much. >> let's go to heather. >> good morning. other news to bring you now let's start in virginia. illegal in the state of virginia are now eligible for in-state tuition. virginia's torn general announcing that illegal immigrantses who came here as children are now eligible for the cheaper in-state tuition thanks to the dream act. just how much will this save for an out of state student tuition at the university of virginia? it's just over 42 grand. for in-state students, it's $13,000. that's a savings of nearly $30,000 per year. in wisconsin, federal judge striking down the voter identificationeñ?ñ?ñ?ñ?ñ?ñ law. the judge ruling that the requirement that voters show a state-issued photo i.d. at the polls is an unfair burden on
poor and minority voters. there are 31 states right now with laws that require voters to show i.d. at the polls. birthday surprises work out really well, at least in movies. ♪ happy birthday >> i hope you're hungry. >> such a cute movie. but in real life, birthday surprises can be a total disaster. case in points, a family lit the candles on their dad's cake and then hid that cake in a closet. yeah. when they opened up the closet door, well, they got hit with a whole bunch of water from the fire sprinklers. no one was hurt, but two apartments are flooded. and the man never got to blow out his candle. oh, boy. if your birthday cake catches on fire action you may wants to call this kid. the youngest firefighter ever. >> today you are an official detroit firefighter.
>> how cute is he? he just had a heart transplants. he's three years old. thanks to make a wish, he got to be a firefighter for a at this, he got to ride on a truck and able to spray the hose. he plans to be a firefighter when he grows up, he says. that took place in detroit. what a cutie pie! love it. >> every kid wants to grow up like that. >> another five-year-old related news, you got another story. >> thank you very much. kindergarten concert canceled. the reason? so the kindergarteners can focus on college preparation. meet one parent who is upset, understandably, next. >> but more than seven feet tall, 7' 5, he towers over anna and just about everyone in the studio. most of the competition, the tallest basketball high school player in the country, he's taller than anyone in the nba and he's really good and more importantly, he's here with us to talk about his life from
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42 minutes after the hour. outrageous video. a cleaning truck slammed into the side of a cargo plane in miami. the driver hit the gas sniff the brakes. the plane carrying flowers for mother's day was repaired and put back in service. and blame it on the gps. the truck driver says his gps landed him in this tight spot. the driver tried to keep going and caused even more damage to his truck. 18 minutes before the top of the hour. he's not injure average high schooler. i'm talking about our guest.
stands 7' 5, making him the tallest high school basketball player in the country. get this, it's only his first year playing basketball. he's two-inches taller than anyone in the nba. this guy is an athlete. basketball star, stardom is imminent, i am sure. but a he's still a high school kid who has got a lot to learn about the game. welcome to "fox & friends." nice to see you. >> thank you. >> congratulations on your success. >> thank you. >> we called you in. this light right here burned out. could you change it? how tall are you? >> 7' 5 and threats. >> is everybody in your family that tall? >> no. my mom and dad are about six foot. my brother might be tall like me. he's only eight years old. >> how hard was it to leave senegal to come here to go to high school, leaving your family behind? >> it was very tough, but i had to do it 'cause i wanted to get a better future for me, for them and for me. >> what kind of pressure do you feel like you're under? everybody sees your height.
they see your shoe size, the same as shaq. they think, wow, this guy will be the best player on the team. this is your first year. >> that was strange at first because i was getting on the court not doing what i was supposed to do. but the more i was playing, the more natural it was becoming to me and the better i was getting. >> hakeem olajuwan met you, trained you for a day. what was that like for you? he had a similar story, hailed from africa. >> it was a very big part for me. that was a really special day. i learned to be patient. >> what is your american dream? now that you're here, you're tall enough to be in the nba. what's your game plan at this point? >> just make it and help my family. that's it. >> your dream is into the for the nba? >> oh, yes, i do. >> you want to do that. >> go to college first? >> i do want to go to college. >> he's a biochemist. >> he's got a 4.0 average in
school and got an interest from utep, right? >> yeah. i got an offer from utep like day before yesterday. >> you got to check with us first. don't make a move without us. >> speaking of taking a move, not long ago we had shaquille o'neal return and it was sadly, brian thought he could play basketball. would you like to do a little one on one with mr. kilmeade? >> sure. >> i'm going to toss up the ball. >> startingstarting with a jump? >> here we go. who is going to get this one? >> let me check this. >> this time try get it in. >> i got to keep it in bounds.
>> you can take out. >> get the ball away from him. >> try to get the ball from us. that's cute. >> not only are you doing a very courageous thing coming to this country after a year at basketball, you can play. and i didn't believe it 'til i played against you 'cause i'm one of the fastest. you could use this video it -- to get a full ride to ucla. i love the fact that you're studying and getting great grades. you say him here first. good luck to you. >> thank you. >> you read this.
>> kindergarten concert canceled. the reason? so the kids can focus on college preparation. yes, i said college preparation in kindergarten. what upset parents joins us next. >> let's check in with bill hemmer for a preview of what happens on the channel in 14 minutes. >> you could try and get a selfy with him, but i don't think the angle would be wide enough. >> you're right. >> morning. a verdict in the home invasion trial. we're hearing what the jury heard in court and it's stunning. smoking gun on benghazi. trey buddy reacts. new polling shows a difficult fall for democrats. karl rove analyzes that. watch out for dark matter. seriously. we'll see you in 12 minutes packed with real juice from delicious fruits and veggies. it's what you need for that extra boost! oh and did we mention it's only 50 calories? need a lift? could've had a v8. in t juice aisle.
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the actor bobs who convince has died. his roles included playing eddie in the movie "who framed roger rabbit." he was nominated for an oscar in 1986 for his role in "mona lisa." he died from pneumonia. he was 71 years old. brian? >> on a different note, the show cannot go on. that's what teachers in new york on long island are tell ago kindergarten class about its end of the year concert. why? school leaders canceled the concert telling parents it will give kids more time to prepare for college. becky is the parents of a kindergartener at that school and can't figure it out. becky, how disappointed was your child? >> to be fair, my child doesn't know one way or another about whether she's having this play. as the parent, i was disappointed because to me, it signals a shift in maybe educational values and
priorities. >> how can you seriously, with a straight face, tell the parent of a kindergartener, we have to put him in a college prep situation? >> that's the thing. the thing is when you read the letter that was sent around, which has been acknowledged to be silly, i think by the administration, the wording of it, if you look at some of the statements in it, like college and career ready, that's a real buzz phrase for the common core. every meeting that go to, you will hear college and career ready. harvard ready. rigor, increased rigor. so it's not just silliness, it's like a speaking point for the common core. >> right. and one of the quotes is it's part of the changing face of education. >> yes. and i'm not sure that that changing face is productive if it takes away creative learning from kids that are five and six years old in kindergarten. >> and obviously the biggest thing can common core is they teach to the test. here is what the school says. our educators believe that the traditional kindergarten performance requires multiple
days away from classroom work for preparation and execution and together with the lost instructional time due to poor weather is not the best use of the limited time we have with our youngest learners. so too many snow days. we got to put more curriculum and less to the theser. >> to me, that says then you're devaluing creative forms of education and only valuing seat work as education. last year they held that play, decades and decades they've held that play. our great educators saw central in it for decades and suddenly now that common core is in place, there is no more value in it? >> i sense that teachers -- my informal poll is teachers agree with you. they're not loving this. it's more the administrators that are administrating this. >> i don't know whether they're administrating it out of their minds or whether this is like a trickle down situation from albany, that we are so tied and we need the state funding so badly, are we in a situation
where our administrators will take marching orders from al beeny? >> do you have until june for your child to pick a college? >> we've already done early admission. hit first grade and straight to med school. >> what are you thinking? so it's outrageous, but it's important because most people can relate to the story on some way, shape or form because of the changing face of education. becky, thank you for joining us. >> thanks so much. i appreciate it. coming up straight ahead, we're going to say something really profound in j moment. ♪ ♪ ♪ (woman) this place has got really good chocolate shakes. (growls)
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em ♪ ♪ know when to fold em. ♪ >> we had kenny rogers on the program about a half hour ago. that is the first ever selfy he's ever done and so we wanted you to help kenny go right up the trend as the number one trending hash tag in america. right now take a look. the number one is the beard is back. kenny rogers! congratulations. >> number one again. >> i know. it's big news. >> all right. >> the beard is back. his children said, gout to do -- you got to do a selfy. he doesn't like the way he looks. >> tomorrow, president bush has never been in better shape. we'll find out for sure. dr. mark siegle joins some military members as they do mountsen biking with wounded warriors. president bush and dr. siegle live on our show. >> they've done that a few years now. >> yeah. >> heather, were you watching
earlier when brian kilmeade was doing some -- >> trying to give a high schooler a lesson in basketball. >> he wants to be a professional athlete in the basketball league. here is brian in action, if you missed it. you didn't even come close to making a shot. >> the thing is, i thought i saw something in his defense that could be taken advantage of. >> you look like an ant compared to him. >> brian, this reminds me of the time you took on -- was it shaq? >> it was shaq. >> he wants quite as tall. here is a flashback. >> it never gets old. >> they found the ball. it's in dell frisco. >> we need titus now, of course. where is titus?
>> we have to end the show like that? >> thank you very much for joining us today on "fox & friends." the news continues right here on the channel with bill and martha. we'll see you back here tomorrow, same time. >> we have a second left. >> let's again with a fox news alert. he was convicted of killing to teenager breaking into his house. you will hear the moments of the phone call that the jury heard. i am bill hemmer. >> i am in for martha maccallum. healther childers. byron smith shot the teenagers nine times and the recording played in court but not released to
to do it for them. kristen says i think the 9 p.m. curfew in baltimore city is a great idea. however, i think baltimore city needs a lot more than a curfew to handle what's going on there. thank you for responding. we appreciate it. "fox & friends" starts now. bye. good morning. it is wednesday, may 14. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck.ç @&c@ an afternoon of fun turns to horror when a bounce houpbs -- house gets thrown 50 neat in the air, catapulting kids to the ground below. how this happened and the latest on their condition ahead. >> the left slamming karl rove for questioning hillary clinton's health calling him pathetic and scared. but where was the outrage when the same questions were asked of republican candidates? >> a motorcycle slams into an s.u.v. head on and the guy on the motorcycle walks away. that was no stunt. that wasç real. and mornings, as far as we
know, are real, and they're better with friends. >> you're watching "fox & friends." that's a great way to begin your day. >> thanks very much, don king. welcome aboard ladies and gentlemen. it is national biscuit day. >> that means a lot. it goes back how many -- is this the first year? >> ever since popeye's louisiana kitchen developed a special one, today you're going to get one. >> i cannot believe they're still working to improve the biscuit. to me, it peaked. >> repeat what's out there already. >>ç bisquick, that was your choice in your house? >> growing up we had biscuits until bisquick came along and that changed everything. >> they have gluten-free biscuits? >> yeah. >> biscuit day, something
to talk about around the family table. >> i was watching "fox & friends" this morning. ainsley and heather were on. what does ainsley do after the show? >> i think ainsley does this, fill in for heather nauert. >> were you really watching? >> yes i was. >> let me tell you what happened overnight. bigç developments overnight that will affect the mid term elections. clay aiken won the congressional democratic primary in north carolina. the former singer and actor squeezed out a narrow victory one day after his point chris kisko died. aiken faces an uphill battle against a popular republican incumbent. over in nebraska, key party favorite, ben saff won the republican nomination for an open seat after a heated primary. in west virginia seven-term
congresswoman won the republican primary. natalie tenet won the democratic nomination. whoever wins the general electionyu)s& make history. west virginia never elected a female senator. one minute it was staked to the ground. the next it was swept off the ground. a gust of wind lifting an entire inflatable house with three children inside 50 feet into the air. a 10-year-old girl did escape just with scrapes right before it went into the air but the two boys left eup -- inside ages five and six are in the hospital. one broke both arms after the other has a head injury after hitting a parked car. >> i heard him hit the ground and i heard screaming everywhere. >> little tykes is the maker of the bouncey house. this is their statement. we're looking into what happened. our thoughts and prayers are with the children and their families. a major health scare in
florida. 22 hospital workers at a hospital in orlando ordered to stay home now for two weeks after their exposure to a saudi patient that is infected with mers. the 44-year-old man reportedly developed symptoms of mers mid flight from saudi arabia to london. he sat in the emergency room for hours before being admitted into the hospital. this is the second confirmed u.s. case of that deadly and rareç virus. a happy update to a story we told you about yesterday. the 21-month-old boy with leukemia who desperately needed a lifesaving drug will get his meds. the company, chimerex, is changing its mind after first refusing to provide the trial medicine to him that would t virus. >> i was very emotional. it's been tough knowing there is a drug out there and we couldn't get it atç
first. i hope we don't have to wait as long as us and joshua's parents. >> you might remember the company chimerex that repeatedly denied drugs for josh hardy. they eventually changed course after eup tense public scrutiny. >> ainsley, thank you very much. in both those cases, our own peter johnson jr., america's attorney was key in helping them get it. >> we're going to talk about something that has a little bit of sickness in everybody's belly. talking about health, karl rove kicking off a political firestorm in a war of words with hillary clinton. he's getting slammed for suggesting clinton might have brain damage or some sort of damage after a fall she suffered, as you recall, in 2012. but he says his words are being twisted. elizabeth prann is live in
washington to explain. >> reporter: "the new york post" reported that karl rove did make those suggestions last week at a conference, and rove clarified on the channel he was never claiming clinton had brain damage but he did suggest details are not forthcoming on what medical issues then-secretary of state hillary clinton was dealing with. clinton's team is quick to fight back, oneç spokesperson saying -- quote -- "they are scared of what she has achieved and what she has to offer. time for them to move on to their next decks pratt attack." rove said senator john mccain faced similar questions when he ran in 2008 and it's not an uncommon inquiry for such high-profile candidates. >> i didn't say she had brain damage. she had a serious health episode. this was a serious deal. she's in and out of the office starting on the 7th of december after she returns. she returns on a friday from the czech republic but then it begins an over a month-long period where she
has a serious illness ending up putting her in the hospital. >> jay carney mocked rove during the briefing yesterdav3 >> you're asking the question based on the assertion of a political consultant which is a kind waive putting -- kind way of putting his job. here's what i would say about cognitive capacity, which dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge the president had won reelection including the state of ohio, so we'll leave it at that. >> this incident stemming from a fall clinton took back in 2012 after returning from a european trip where she fainted, fell and did suffer a concussion. we have a lot to seeç on this story. >> elizabeth prann, thank you very much. >> she was supposed to testify in the benghazi situation and they said she was not feeling well. then she shows up with the glasses on. i thought it was one of the
most unreported stories. the secretary of state passes out; we don't know why. she comes back and testifies after delay. she wasn't feeling away. karl rove said she was in the hospital for 30 days. not straight. she had to go back and forth for observation. >> i remember working with barbara walters after she suffered a fall in the same season. hillary clinton sent her a letter explaining, saying barbara you know how it goes, throwing a casual comment out there when you fall and hit your head, sort ofç softening a bit primarily to a female audience. this is not something that is unusual to question the president's health. >> absolutely not. >> it is hypocritical for attacking somebody for looking into the records of somebody who may be candidate for president of the united states. >> the way i recall, bill clinton never released his medical records. i think they released a medical summary when he was running because people wanted to try to figure out what was going on with him for a variety of reasons. but there does seem to be
hypocrisy between the right and the left. but you know this. president obama talking about john mccain back in the day when obama was still a senator and how mccain lost his bearings. >> for him to toss out comments like that, i think, gives an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. >> a little hypocrisy checkup there. >> can you imagine if a candidate said my point lost their bearings. >> can you imagine -- let's go back all the way -- it's not thursday yet but we're going to throw back to the 1980's, 1984 i believe it was when it was the second debate between ronald reagan and mondale. brit hume said let's try to understand what it was like for someone to questionç someone's age when they would be president. >> look back at ronald reagan running for reelection in 1984. he loses his debate to
walter mondale and i'll never forget the night richard threlkeld, the question was on the air as to whether reagan was okay. there were questions about his mental acuity at that point which he managed to take care of in the next debate. but all president's health records become public. age sharpens the issue. hillary clinton will be the age ronald reagan wasç when he was running in 1980. >> that's right. essentially i think what we have seen is a preview of perhaps a presidential election. if you pick on hillary for any reason, some will say you're picking on her because of her age, so you're an ageist. if you're picking on her because she's a woman, you're a sexist. >> she knows what it is like to be the target when she ran against obama. i think she is going to get competition.
governor o'malley of maryland is going to go at it. let's see if he starts calling out hillary maybe that she's too old or more of the same. later on the show we're going to have a guest who says maybeç the biggest obstacle that hillary clinton has is that people have obama fatigue. >> fatigue is a real condition. >> very good point. >> there are conditions that should have been investigated, so we're going to shift gears to the v.a. debacle. jeff miller, a representative out of florida, wrote a letter to president obama explaining, daily we are hearing about the inaction of the v.a. and how veterans, 40 reportedly, died waiting on a secret list. this is just getting too awful to wait on. we should have a select committee to investigateç here. and eric holder, though, attorney general, says no, we're not going to do that. we're going to hold the offer on looking into why these veterans are being left to die after serving our nation. >> meanwhile you've got
bernie sanders out there, and he's figured it all out, what's going on with all these people dying, waiting on these secret lists. you know who you can blame? the koch brothers. >> there is right now as we speak a concerted effort to undermine the v.a. so the point is you have government entity itself, social security enormously popular. medicare enormously popular. postal service popular. v.a. popular. what are theç problems? the problems is that all of these are large governmental institutions, and you have folks out there now, koch brothers and others, who want to radically change the nature of society and even make major cuts in all of these institutions or maybe do away with them entirely. >> amazing too, the guy talked about changing major
portions of society. he happens to be a socialist. a lot of people think in his view, we're all on the wrong side of society. but i think it's also important toç understand. this reminds me of, remember when you used to get spelling words and you had to memorize them and to help you do it, you had to use it in a sentence and you couldn't possibly think of a way to use this word on your spelling assignment in a sentence. it is as if he starts the day thinking how do i use the word koch brothers in a sentence? >> then he calls harry reid. >> right. and he says harry, i got my sentence in. >> coming up, he founded the weather underground, but no one complains when he'sç asked to speak. coming up next. >> why did alec baldwin end
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the list of canceled graduation speakers is growing this morning. we just learned international monetary fund chief christine le guard is withdrawing from smith college's graduation. she joins secretary of state former condi rice who dropped out as rutgers commencement speaker as well because of protests from a handful of kids. joining us to talk about what's going on, the president of the foundation for individual rights in education. good morning to you. >> thanks for having me. >> what's the matter with these kids? why don't they want to hear somebody else's opinion? >> it's amazing. much so we call it
disinvitation season. students get together, and sometimes faculty. i think it's the long term result of students believing they have the right not to be offended or even challenged. >> when you look at the woman who ran the i.m.f., you would think they would want to hear from such a powerful woman who ran the i.f.m. they feel because they discriminate against women or condi rice, because they feel like she had a hand in getting us into some wars we shouldn't have been in, they shouldn't hear that. it's almost likeç the students are trying to figure out who can we have speak to us who sounds just like us. >> that's exactly right. and it's amazing the purity test that students are implying. the chancellor of berkeley just got disinvited, just withdrew from haverford college. it is hard to imagine who is going to be allowed to speak on campuses anymore. >> kermit the frog.
they love "sesame street"; not too political. how big a factor, greg, is the fact that on these college campuses you've got all these lefty professors for four years beating into their heads a certain ideology and they want to hear that when they say the big so longç everybody? >> sometimes the professors are right in front. when it comes to condoleezza rice, that wasn't student led. that was faculty led. i think the entire campus environment and the problems of speech code teaches students to think like censors. this is a natural result in some ways of what they're being taught. >> i looked at the list. it looks like more conservatives or right-wing speakers get disinvited than to the left. but there is a number of of lefties as well who are left not speaking. r&c@ what does this say about where we are on college campus stph-s >> it says there is a real
intolerance for different points of view. students are not taught to say why don't i hear this person out? >> we send our college for four years for a different opinion, so they can see everything. greg lukianoff, sir, thank you very much. if i ever run a college, you're going to be my speaker. you hear me? >> i might get disinvited. >> you never know. straight ahead it is an olympic sport but the fencing team at one college is now kicked off campus and wait until you hear why. nearlyç 22 million millenials, the young people, still living at home with mom and dad. our next guest made millions of dollars in real estate before he turned 30. why he says moving out is the best thing you can do. ♪ ♪
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quick headlines now. celebrities behaving badly. overnight justin bieber accused of attempted robbery. ♪ ♪ >> this isn't live, by the way. the pop star is accused of trying to take a woman's cell phone at a golf course in california who was taking pictures ofç him. alec baldwin arrested after he allegedly screamed at cops who caught him riding his book in the wrong direction down the street in new york city. he then tweeted this. new york city is desperate
for revenue and anxious to criminalize behavior once thought benign. his wife tweeted him back, shhhh! all right elisabeth. >> a record number of millenials, more than 30%, admit they're still living at home with their pare%ts. between college loans and cost of living for not taking the initiative to move out. when they do many choose to rent thinking that is a better option. blake sloan is a reality expert, also a millenial who has been recognized by forbes and the "wall street journal" as one of the best in this business. good morning, blake. your story is interesting. by the time you were 27 you were a self-made million. your mom is one of your employees. what was the secret to your success? >> just a lot of hard work in the beginning. a lot of sleepless nights in the beginning. out learning from the best and make sure we're innovative in our real
estate business as a whole and work very, veryç hard to do so. >> you talked about your mom moving into your business and you hiring her. many millenials are moving back home with their parents. 13% only say having their own home is a priority according to recent studies here. why do you think it is a better idea for them to get out of the basement and buy a home? >> right now such an unprecedented time regards to opportunity for millenials to buy, the a affordability of the housinghmarket. you can get a mortgage for about 4.25%. let's say you're too busy and you want to wait a year, and now you wait a year later, that same house, maybe about $270,000, with rates going up you're looking at a rate of maybe about 5.7%. now that same mortgage payment is about $1,500.
overall it can cost $100,000 more over the life of the loan by waiting one year. >> let's go over cities here. you say charleston, south carolina, is a good place for a millenial on a starting salary to look. >> it's been dubbed silicon harbor, the silicon valley of the eastç coast. it is a startup for tech companies. there are 200 miles of pristine beaches. average commute is 10 to 15 minutes. it has a great restaurant market. you can get a starter home for $145,000 or $700 a month. >> the second place you talk about is austin, texas. >> austin has a cool, young vibe. in the past five years, a big increase in millenials going there. a great music scene. you can get a starter home for about $200,000 or about $1,000 a month to buyç
there. >> nashville, tennessee? >> nash vegas is an awesome place. starterups come and thrive. it is an easy-going life. you can get a great starter home for about $150,000. >> orlando, florida? >> everybody loves orlando. everybody loves the weather. it is great in the hospital ity industry. >> we thank you for being with us today. nash vegas. coming up transgenderç national security officer about to get special treatment. have you seen this video? a motorcycle slams into an s.u.v. head on. how did that motorcycle rider walk away?
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>> it does? >> yeah. it's our shot of the morning. >> that's your driveway. >> my driveway. yesterday i posted this on instagram. i came out and my kids said to me, mommy, is it okay if i use all my talk to make -- use all my chalk to make a big american flag, make our american flag? i said oh yeah, it's quite o that.ht"uz i hash tagged it raising patriots. it is so good to see that. it is so big. one of them ran over it on a bike and there was a big argument about that. >> and a little trail, red, white and blue. >> i just thought that how great that is what they decided to use all their chalk on. i'm going to buy them more chalk. >> you didn't tell them to do it. you let kids be kids. you let them decide what to do with their time. from 6 p.m. from 6:17, you didn't say make a flag. from 6:17 to 6:26 prepare
for dinner. that is not the elisabeth hasselbeck way.ç >> some people refer to them as helicopter parents. others call them the beta parents. >> the beta parents will do anything they can, even when the kids are two years old, to make sure they get into harvard. they'll hire bilingual nannies, make sure they get the right foods. some serve them fish for breakfast? >> beta fish? >> yeah. here's the thing. that's what alpha parents do. jen nesser has written a book. she is saying the way parents areç raising their kids these days is a far cry from how we are raised. >> she says beta parents sometimes leave them alone with a crayon, a piece of string and cardboard box. beta parents let their kids eat processed cheese.
beta parents own televisions. they don't make cupcakes out of cantaloupes with frosting. >> they're saying back off, let kids be kids. there is a school of thought with parents that you basically have the kids and then let them get busy. don't bother me unless it's important for ten years. and now you have people, maybe the kids of those parents saying i didn't like being a kid, being ignored so they're overdoing it with theirç kids. they're scheduling their free time. there is no such thing as free time anymore. >> beta parents are the parents like we had growing up. when you look back to the way we were raised, we weren't the centers of the universe like many parents -- >> my mom didn't even like me. >> there you go. >> not at all. >> a couple of days ago -- she loves you. one time i tried to make ice cream out of bananas. it didn't go well. that was an alpha moment. >> as a mom orç kid?
>> as a mom. when our first child was born we looked at all those books for alpha parents. we were convinced the child should never have a fried food before the age of six. by the time our third child rolled around, we stopped at the mcdonald's drive-through when sally was born on the way home to get her fries. >> no teeth yet but we're stopping. what's your favorite beta parent moment? and what's your favorite -- the beta parent is somebody who is? >> hands off. >> and what's an example of looking back at what steve just said, maybe you were too -- >> there are two. alpha. beta. meanwhile, let'sç start with the "a" ainsley earhardt in for heather nauert. >> i was the b child. >> you're the a team.
>> he screamed "i am god, i am god! " before ramming a stolen landscaping truck into a tv station in baltimore. the 29-year-old then barricaded himself in an editing room for five hours while he was watching himself on the news coverage. police eventually cuffed him while he heldç a golf club. no one was injured. the man who has not yet been identified is being treated now at the hospital. she was charged with attempted murder. and the exact moment she was attacked was caught on camera. this happened off the coast of hawaii. a man trying to rip out the diver's air supply. she was reportedly filming another diver stealing fish
under water when the man detached her oxygen. she was able to reattach it without shooting to the surface which can be deadly. the daughter of radio legend casey kasem makingç a desperate plea to get her dad back from her step mother. she last saw her dad on may 6. his health is deteriorating. and the daughter says the trouble with the step mom isn't anything new. >> we told her if it is about the money, take the money, take the house. we won't contest anything. take it all, have it all. give us our dad back. >> the family plans to file a missing person's report this morning. they think their dad might be at an indian reservation in washington state. it's the video we've all been talking about. surveillance video capturing a horrific motorcycle crash in missouri.ç that rider slamming head on into the side of that black s.u.v. amazingly the biker wasn't seriously injured. he% himself up as you can see, and he walks away.
brian says what was he looking at? >> he came out of nowhere. >> what's happening in sports. >> thanks for asking. i guess we're on speaking terms again. nba playoff, a controversial call in the final seconds. the clippers against the thunder, game 5, 104-102, clippers. reggie jackson ends up with what appears to be fouled. the ball ruled off the clippers out of bounds. westbrook pulled up for 3, no good.ç he fouled. he goss a handle on 3. he does. the thunder wins. the wizards beat the pacers 102-79 forcing game 6. looks like charles barkley and shaquille o'neal won't meet in the ring for martial arts. last week during their inside the nba show, gave fans a preview of what they
can expect. shaq said barkley backed out. i would kill him. i would definitely kickç his "a" because i'm from the streets of newark and he is not. plus he's seven foot and over 300 pounds and barkley is like 6'4" and not. everyone writes me about hockey. hockey will be in the next sportscast. i promise. >> is there a score you want to give? 20 minutes before the top of the hour. transgender national security leaker chelsea manning. >> it gets more than 10,000 criminals a month but what do you know about u.s.ç marshals? next the fascinating details you never knew.
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the pentagon approving a transfer for private bradley manning to get gender treatment after being convicted of leaking top secret military documents, manning changed his name to chelsea and requested hormone therapy. the treatment is not possible in a military prison, only in civilian prison. okay. convicted killer van der sloot is reportedly set to marry his pregnant girlfriend in prison. there is speculation the baby is not his. a judge sentenced van der sloot to 28 years in prison for theç murder.
>> the little bit you know about the u.s. marshals probably comes from a movie. >> i did not do what they said i did. >> if you thought the chase was over, you've got another thing coming. >> what are you going to attempt to do? >> a u.s. marshal is considered the most dangerous job in law enforcement and it's been around since 1789, but there isn't much known about what they do untilç now. this man served 28 years with the u.s. marshals. his book is out, "u.s. marshaled: inside america's most storied law enforcement agency." what you don't know about them and what they do. mike, first off, you write this book, the sheer numbers of people that you capture is staggering. >> we arrest an average of around 23,000 fugitives a year. that's 10,000 a month
throughout the united states. these are the most violent of fugitives. they are wanted for murder, rape, homicide, child abductions, sex offenders. you name it, they are the worst of the worst. >> your jurisdiction is anybody, anything in the u.s.; right? >> correct. weç do also international fugitives, fugitives wanted in the u.s. that have gone abroad. we're responsible for finding them abroad. also foreign fugitives that come into the u.s., we're responsible for apprehending them. >> united states of america founded the witness protection program? >> that is true. since about late 1970's we've been in charge of protecting all the witnesses within the program, their families. that can include 24-hour protection while they're in danger. >> this is the ultimate reality show. there's only 4,000 of you guys? >> correct. there's actuallyç less than 4,000. in the fugitive program we have a task force network
of about 4,000 also that assist us. >> the bigger names that you've captured, been a part of? >> the u.s. marshals arrested general manuel noriega during the invasion of panama. the d.c. sniper case, we identified two individuals in their vehicle they were in. guzman, most of the drug cartels. it goes on and on. >> just the organization and execution is something every government agency could learn from, don't you think? it seems like your chain of command is very pure. >> we do the most we can with the resources ue have. the marshals are very effective at it. one of the reasons is we get along with all other agencies and our state and local task force officers are such an integral part of what we do. >> you are related to wyatt earp. this is the legend.
>> i don't know exact what the relationship is. 30 years i've been called wyatt more than i have mike. >> kevin costner had fun playing that. mike, the book is fascinating. thanks so much for your service to@-ui country. look what i've got. my own patch. i'm going to start speeding as soon as i leave here. coming up, they serve this nation only to be hahn pherd with out-of--- only to be hammered with out-of-control student loans. have you ever heard of a drinking game that uses skee ball as its theme. ♪ ♪
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a controversy is brewing this morning over america's favorite arcade game. ski ball. there is one calls brewsski ball where people drink alcohol. joining us for a fair and balanced legal debate, arthur aidala. welcome this morning. before we get to some playing of the game here, this is a big deal. it's going to come down to a lot of money. what's the problem? i'll start with you, with brewski ball using the name or is this fine? no trademark infringement? >> the line they're taking in
the beer league that did this in the ski ball people should zip their lips. aspirin, yoyo, zipper, are names no longer trademarked. they're genericked. and the idea in this case is that the brewski ball people are saying it's ski ball. we call this game ski ball. they can't trademark it. and brewsski ball doesn't confuse anybody, so go away. >> they say nothing going on. >> and nobody is harmed. >> this is what i say. first of all, it says right here, skiball, u.s. patent office. it's not a trademark, but there is a patent on this design and there is a company that actually owns the name. but the reason why he's correct, why all the names, yoyo and things like that are household names is because nobody went and did this and went to court to challenge it.
yoyo never went to court and said this is my did she this is our name. >> what would happen if they did? >> we don't know. so skisexual going to court and -- ski social security ball is going to court saying this is our name. they don't want somebody playing and getting in a wreck and kill somebody. now their good name, all kids love to go and play skiball are ruined. >> so let me ask you this, what's next? beer pong is something for ping-pong. should ping-pong be worried about their name being used -- >> there is no ping-pong name. if that's your example, it's not a good one for ski ball because there is no ping-pong trademark. we play ping-pong, you can call it beer popping, call it anything you want. >> ping-pong is more like football. whereas this is a thing. >> what if it looked completely
different? >> it's not the machine. it's the league that -- these people are not manufacturing a machine that looks like a ski ball machine, but isn't. so there is no confusion and when you got a trademark case, the issue is, are you confusing people? are people going to think hey, the ski ball company is running this league? there is no possible way you could think that. >> what happened between 2005 and now, because they the league founder, he gave the blessing in 2005. >> this is the interesting thing. when we ran an investigation into our company, life is lived chronologically. these guys did nothing to defend their name. then they went in to an agreement with the brews ski ball people. >> it was a handshake agreement. >> a week after they start to reveal confidential information. this is what's in the superintendent all of a sudden they say hey, our trademark, our good name and went to court. >> initially it was a publicity stunt for them to get a name and
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good morning. it's wednesday, may 14. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. an afternoon of fun turns to horror when a bounce house is lifted 50 feet off the ground with three children inside. how this could have happened and the latest on the kids' conditions up next. they called karl rove pathetic and scared. what was the outrage when the same questions were asked of republican candidates? we report. you decide. but steve's got to talk first. >> that's right. then from the front lines to the nfl, meet the army ranger who is trading in his fatigues for a helmet and shoulder pads. yep. that's him right there. we got a busy two hours on this wednesday morning because wednesday mornings are better with friends. >> it's time for "fox & friends" one hour ago i revealed it's national biscuit day and i've just been told by the people at
popeye's that in addition to biscuits and gravy, they're bringing chicken. we've been up since 2 or 3:00 o'clock in the morning. it's lunch time for us. period of time near supper time. >> i had no idea that popeye's loved chicken. i thought it was all spinach. >> maybe that's a different pop eye. >> i remember something about when popeye was in the blue uniform, he was much more entertaining as opposed to the white uniform. >> you spent a lot of time analyzing cartoons, haven't you? >> how about pink? here is someone in a pink outfit. >> he has a bicep focus. >> good thing mine are covered. let me tell you what's happening in the news. a fox news alert. big developments overnight that will affect the midterm elections. tea party favorite won the republican nomination for an open senate seat in nebraska.
in west virginia, seven-term congresswoman shelly moore capito won the republican primary. secretary of state natalie tenet won the democratic nomination. whoever wins the general election will make history because west virginia has never elected a female senator. former "american idol" runner up clay caken won the democratic primary, one day after his opponent died. aiken now faces an uphill battle against the popular republican incumbent, renee elmers. look how high this is. a gust of wind lifting an entire inflatable house with three children inside 50 feet up into the air. a ten-year-old girl did escape with just scrapes just as it was taking off. but two boys, ages five and six, they were inside and now they're in the hospital. one broke both of his arms after hitting the ground. the other has a head injury
after falling on to a parked car. >> then he hit his head off the back of my car. then i heard him hit the ground and i heard screaming. >> little tyke the manufacturer said we are looking into what happened. our thoughts and prayers are with the children and their families. a happy update to a story we've been following. the 21-year-old boy -- 21-month-old boy with leukemia who needed the life saving drug will get it. the company changing its mind after first refusing to provide the trial medicine to him that would treat his adeno virus. >> i was very emotional. it's been tough knowing that there is a drug out there and we couldn't get it. it should be easy. i hope the next people don't have to wait as long as us and
joshua's parents. >> you might remember the company from the case of josh hardy. it repeatedly denied him the drug as well. eventually that company did reverse course after intense public scrutiny. the 9-11 memorial museum opens up tomorrow, but we have this brand-new video just into "fox & friends" of what it looks like. the museum dedicated to honoring the tragic events of september 11 features more than 20,000 photographs, 500 hours of footage, and thousands of artifacts. >> 25 bucks. >> to get in. >> it should be free. it's five minutes after the top of the hour. >> karl rove kicked off a political fire storm yesterday in a war of words with hillary clinton. so he's getting slammed for people suggesting that he said hillary clinton might have brain damage after a fall she suffered in 2012. but he says his words are being
twisted. >> to sort it all out, we fetched elizabeth prann who explains what's going on. >> karl rove came on the channel this week to clarify what the "new york post" is reporting saying he never claimed former secretary of state hillary clinton had brain damage. listen here. >> she had a serious health episode. i mean, this was a serious deal. she basically is out of action from -- she's in and out of the office starting on the 7th of december after she returns. she returns on a friday from the czech republic. but then begins over a month long period where she's got a serious illness, ending up putting her in the hospital. we don't know what the doctor said about what does she have to be concerned about. >> so you see there that rove says details surrounding her medical issues are not forth coming, especially when it comes to the fall she took in december of 2012 after returning from a trip to europe where she fainted, she fell and suffered a concussion. he we want on to say that senator john mccain faced
similar health questions when he ran back in 2008, that, in fact, it's not an uncommon inquiry for high profile candidates. clinton's team is quick to fight back, one spokesman saying they're scared of what she has achieved and what she has to offerment time for them to move on to their next desperate attack. the white house even chiming in, jay carney took a jab at rove during the press briefing just yesterday. >> you asked the question based on a political consultant, which is a kind way of -- it is medical evaluation. shear what i would say about cognitive capacity, which is dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge that the president won reelection, including the state of ohio, so we'll leave it at that. >> clinton has yet to say if she'll even run in 2016. back to you. >> thank you very much. look, it wasn't karl rove, the first to on the national scale
to mention hillary's problems. i think it was two or three months ago, drudge report mentioned is she sick and people were talking behind the scenes about a myriad of intentional health problems for hillary clinton. will she release her medical records? i bet not. think about her husband, bill clinton, when he was running for president. he was asked to repeatedly and to the best of my knowledge, he never did. they did release a general summary about his health. but that was it. >> you want to talk cognitive capacity, which we just saw jay carney refer to, perhaps we need to check on memory because this isn't first time this has been tossed around because of cheap shots. remember when president obama was saying that mccain lost his bears because he was too old. listen to this. >> for him to toss out comments like that, i think it's an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. >> i mean, that's important to bring up. the other thing is, i said this
last hour, it was one of those underreported stories i can remember because we were just waiting to see if she was going to testify for benghazi. all we heard about is she wasn't up to it. somehow she had a virus. then she turns out, well, she hit her head. whoa, did someone hit her head? did she fall? yeah, she hit her head, fell. then comes back with these glasses. they go, it's just going to be temporary. that's how hard she hit her head. i'm thinking to myself, that's huge. if that was in my family, that would be huge news. all of a sudden you're wearing glasses for months, you can't go to work. you're in and out of the hospital for 30 days. so i think ha as a consultant if you're asking karl rove to give his prognosis and he's on stage next to robert gibbs and other experts and ask him to talk about prospects in 2016, i think her health is only natural to bring up, especially her age. it's an issue. >> especially as it relates to benghazi. is she still not okay? still haven't heard anything as it relates to decisions made prior to, during and after. >> i'm sure she'll be subpoenaed, though. brit hume took us way back
here, a little throw back tuesday it was. we're going to bring it to you on wednesday when he said look, this has always been called into question. remember when president reagan was facing mondale in the second debate in 1984? check him out. >> look back at ronald reagan running for reelection in 1984, he loses a debate to walter mondale and i'll never forget the night that richard thrill kill of abc news said on the care, the question was whether reagan was, you know, okay. certainly there were questions about his mental acutity at that point which he managed to take care of in the next debate. but all presidents' health records become public. age raises that and sharpens the issue and hillary clinton will be about the age i guess that ronald reagan was when he was running in 1980. >> surely it will be an issue, her health. and it has been for a while. it's funny how rumors have a way of getting injected into the campaign. remember back in 2008 the suggestion that barak obama was
not born in this country. that actually came from supporters of hillary clinton. of course, here we are years later, people are still talking about that. >> just let's change gears and talk about your house. let's talk about your household perhaps. the author of "good night nanny cam" has come out with a fascinating look at overparenting perhaps in today's society, called a beta parenting where you are pretty much a beta parent is somebody that is laid back, kind of like the 1970s parent or the 1960s parent, or every other parent in america. >> alpha parents are the helicopter parents. they want to do everything for their kids so that the kids go to mit by the time they're seven years old. the beta parents, more like the way we were all raised. >> remember this? there is dvd's and videos out for the baby when it's in the womb, to play certain music. >> we had that. >> you did that? >> sure. >> see, that's an example of
alpha parenting. >> that's why i was doing a story on it. it didn't work, by the way. >> so this is what she said the beta parent said, they don't try to engage their kids every second of the day. sometimes they leave them alone with a crayon, string and cardboard box. they let their parents eat processed cheese. beta parents don't hide pumpkin puree in the pancakes. >> sometimes you let your kids color the flag on a driveway like you did. >> the way she has written this thing -- she wrote this beta parent manifesto in the huffington post, you really want to be a beta parent when you look at it as opposed to an alpha parent. we asked you what you thought. one said let kids be kids. that's how they learn. give guidance when needed, but let them be themselves. >> doug said when i was a kid, my parents were beta. i'd be jumping off the roof onto
the trampoline and then into the pool all day. >> excuse me, i think that's a little bit out of control. do not do that. jerry e-mailed, my older brother and i used to travel by subway from the bronks to brooklyn to watch the dodgers play. we were 11 and seven and it took about two hours each way. i guess we had beta parents. that was the story back then. >> sure. these days that would be regarded as child abuse. anita writes on facebook, building forts in the woods, ice skating on frozen ponds, good lord, how did i ever survive a childhood like that? somehow i remember occasionally going swimming less than a half hour after i ate a meal. >> wow! that is incredible! >> somehow i made it. >> that's akin to joining a gang today. >> being beta may you betta at being a parent? keep them coming. >> i actually think i was definitely too alpha.
>> really? >> yeah. i think katy, my youngest, is benefitting from the fact that maybe i was too alpha with brian and in between -- i canned of lost interest with -- kind of lost interest with the last one. >> it's a perception that a lot of parents have. in the beginning they push as much as they can. >> i remember sitting at the table going what's her name again? >> coming up, america, what's hillary's biggest issue heading into 2016? other next guest says it's not benghazi. we'll talk to doctor, professor, genius larry sabato who predicted nearly every presidential race correctly. the brawl between jay-z and beyonce's sister raising eyebrows. we'll break it down for you. ♪ ♪ you, my friend are a master of diversification.
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we all remember hillary clinton's response to the benghazi terrorist attack. remember? >> what difference at this point does it make? it is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again. >> benghazi may not be her only hurdle for a potential white house bid. could it be her health or just general fatigue with the president's policies? dr. larry sabato is the director of the center of politics at the university of virginia, joins us with a look inside his crystal of people are going to be saying we need a change after barak obama. what do you think? will that hurt hillary? >> here are hillary clinton's real challenges, brian. not benghazi, not monica lewinsky. it's the fact that president
obama, at least right now -- has low approval ratings. if those approval ratings continue to be low in 2016, she will be held accountable. people say, well, she ran against barak obama. she has a separate identity. john mccain ran against george w. bush in 2000. didn't help him in 2008. the second factor, brian, is that there is some good research in this field. just a party running for a third consecutive term actually subtracts a point or two from that party's popular vote total. >> why? >> americans are inclined to switch out parties at regular intervals because the truth is, they don't fully trust either one and they want to avoid corruption. >> yeah. bush 41 followed ronald reagan, but did not get a second term. look at this pew poll now. 65% of the country said they would like to see a president who offers different policies and programs from the current president. 30% want to see a president with similar programs and policies.
that's right now in 2014. how much do we care about being the election is in 2016? >> we shouldn't care overly. you're right. polls can change. but americans do get tired of the same direction. i always like to compare it to tv series. not talking about morning shows, of course. talking about comedies, sitcoms and cops and robbers shows. how long do they last? very few go eight seasons. most go two, three, four seasons and people are ready for a change. >> right. except for "cheers." i wish that could have gone on. i got to ask you, when karl rove brought up the health of hillary clinton, do you think that's out of bounds or is that up with tradition for a 68-year-old that did pass out in her last few months in office? >> here is something that most people don't know. hillary clinton, by the time of the election in 2016, is going to be exactly the same age, 69,
that ronald reagan was in 1980 when he was first running for his first elective term as president. so health questions are always legitimate. we never want to go back to the situation that we've had that i studied in 1960 when john f. kennedy had some very serious health problems that were covered up and even denied, lied about. i know of nothing that would prevent hillary clinton from being president. she seems very vigorous to me. but every presidential nominee should have to have a thorough examination and the results of that examination should be revealed to the public. we ought to require that for presidential detainees. >> it does make sense. the kids are graduated and you can take the rest of the summer off. thanks so much. >> this weekend, brian, is graduation. i'm not free yet. >> sorry. after that. straight ahead, veterans being cheated when it comes to student loans. they were charged more than anyone else. this morning we have a huge
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process a month. a whistle blower said the employees are being paid to basically do nothing. steve has something special for us. >> i do. thank you very much. he was left embarrassed and humiliated, starving in school after his hot lunch tossed out. the reason? he was 45 cents short and didn't know he also owed 4.95 from a meal back in april. school didn't notify them. but his mom wouldn't let the school standard slide. she not only paid his debt, she also paid the balances of 18 other students. that mother, amanda cowan, joins us now. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> let me get this straight, your son is 45 cents short and they won't give him the lunch? >> correct. >> why? >> they have a no charge policy, as a lot of other schools do. >> did you know that he owed
4-point -- about five bucks from something he charged in april? >> no, i didn't. it was his last charge was april 15. >> you never got a notice that your son was delinquent, right? >> no, i didn't. >> okay. so he comes home and he tells you that not only was he short, he didn't get the lunch, and not only that, but the lunch person took the lunch out of his hand and threw it in the garbage, right? >> well, he actually called me from the school and told me they weren't allowing him to eat. i asked him what was going on. he said they wouldn't -- he tried paying the $2. they wouldn't accept it. so they took the lunch, threw it in the trash and that's when he called me. >> oh, man. here is what the school says. although we do not encourage the charging of school lunches, the union schools do allow charging many schools across the nation have very strict policies that say if a child does not have the money, they do not eat. we are proud to say we do not
have that policy. i can't imagine they're proud of what that lunch person did. i mean, they threw the lunch in the garbage and then your son went hungry. you're being calm right now. but you were really agitated the day this happened. what did you do first? >> first thing i did is i went to the school to talk to the lunch lady. i asked her, why wasn't he allowed to eat? she just basic -- well, he didn't have enough money. >> right. >> i was to the point i didn't even know what to say. >> sure. so you went back on friday and talked to one of the bosses at the school. what did they say? >> i went back on monday and talked to the vice principal. >> and you said? >> she told me -- i needed to understand that at the end of the year, they're stuck with the bill if parents don't charge, pay the charges. >> sure. and so you decided you were going to make good. fair and square, you did owe, although the school never let
you know ahead of time that you had an outstanding balance. so you wanted to make sure this did not happen to any of the other kids in the school. so what did you try to do? >> well, what i tried to do is give her $250 to not only pay the bill, but distribute the rest of it in the accounts of the 19 kids on the list. she told me they couldn't do that. >> sure. but they wouldn't take 250 bucks, would they? >> no. she took 60. she paid the $53 tab and put the rest on my son's account. >> well, now he can have lunch for the rest of the year. but the damage is done. i know he was humiliated. but you made it very clear that it was not appropriate, although the school doesn't feel like they did anything wrong, which is crazy. >> well, they said they followed within their guidelines. no disciplinary action will be taken. >> yeah, but he was 45 cents short. just give him the piece of pizza. >> i know. i don't understand throwing it
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>> yes, they are. free biscuit today at any popeye's with a purchase all day long. >> you can't beat that. why is it you love the biscuit? i know the guy who started pop eye's worked on it for two years in a culinary lab. >> well, my biscuits are the best tasting in the known universe and my popeye's customers are the best customers in the world. >> you're taking credit for the entire organization? >> the entire organization because i love my biscuits. so come on in today at any popeye's for any purchase, you'll get a free biscuit. >> it's perfect with the chicken. >> of course. >> i grew up on the popeye's spicy chicken. i love that stuff. you got locations across the country. so drop by a popeye's, buy something and you get a free biscuit. >> very nice. >> honey on it. >> we'll have to do that. that's the way i like it. perfect. >> yes. >> amy, annie, thank you very much. >> thank you.
>> now to ainsley, time for the news. >> thanks so much. we're going to start with this, a major health scare in florida. 22 hospital workers at an orlando hospital ordered to stay home for two weeks after they were exposed to a patient infected with mers. the 44-year-old man developed symptoms of that virus mid flight from saudi arabia to london. he sat in the emergency room in orlando for hours before being admitted into the hospital. this is the second confirmed u.s. case of the deadly rare virus. rubio for president? the republican florida senator now admits that he would still enter the 2016 race even if it meant running against former florida governor jeb bush. he says the presidential candidate doesn't make decisions based on what someone else does. >> i think when someone contemplates running for president of the united states, you too so based on a criteria that you set for yourself. i don't think they're decisions
based with someone else's decisions in mind and i bet if he was here, he would give you the exact same answer. i think that's the way you approach a decision of that magnitude is based on your own criteria. not what someone else might or might not do. >> he admits jeb bush would make a formidable president, a candidate at least, for president. newly discovered letters revealing 14 years of secrets from jackie kennedy bearing her soul to an irish priest that she met only twice, but had written to for years. she opens up about her fears of marrying jfk because he might be like her father, she says. she goes on to say, quote, he loves the chase and he is bored with the conquest and once married, needs proof he's still attractive, so he flirts with other women and resents you. the unpublished letters are up for auction next month. fencing might be an olympic sport, but tell that to the officials at north dakota state university because they have
banned it, saying the sword-like equipment known as foils are deemed weapons and as such possession or use on the university campus owned or controlled property is prohibited. the sword, however, has no actual blade and does not have a sharp tip. the team is now forced to move off campus. and those are your headlines, my friends. over to you on the sofa. >> is it arthur? >> it is. >> we got to get ainsley a monitor. she should have seen awe long time ago. >> leave ainsley alone! >> that's for tomorrow's segment. >> i'm with you on that. >> let's talk about this. so we've seen it on television. >> important case. >> surveillance video, it looks like beyonce's sister is beating up jay-z. that's an elevator at the standard hotel in new york. so we have many legal questions. first of all, there is a story out there that tmz paid $250,000 for that video.
>> to whom? that's the question. do they pay it -- first of all, let's get this out of the way. it's not jay-z's video. it's not beyonce's video. when you're in a public hallway, on a public street, when you're in a public elevator, you have no expectation of privacy. so it's not your video. you're basically consenting by being there that you could be videoed in today's day and age. >> known a hotel? >> in a public place, yes. this was in their room, in the bathroom or maybe even a phone booth, some expectation of privacy. >> does that mean they can't sue for this video? >> that is correct. >> but wherever they had access so to that video monitor, that would not be a public place. that could have been a private place. >> here is the real thing, who sold the video? or who got their hands on it? is it the hotel who probably owns the video. it's their video. >> what if it is? >> or is it an employee of the hotel who stole the video? if it was an employee who stole
the video, they may have some big problems. criminal problems and civil problems 'cause it's not their property. >> but if i'm tmz and i write the check to that shady person who did something that's a fireable offense and despicable, do i have to say who i bought it from? am i responsible to say -- >> you guys are the journalists. you're asking me that question? it depends if they say listen, this is our source. i don't think they would reveal. >> what if the people in the hotel, those individuals, be it jay-z or two other people involved in a domestic issue in an elevator, can that video that was wrongly sold, assuming that it was, be used to then prosecute one of them? >> yes. there would be an evidentiary hearing if it ever went that far about its add -- admissiblity.
jay-z could pick up the phone and press charges against her and she would be arrested for assault in the third degree, which it's a no brainer, which is a misdemeanor. all you have to do is cause harm and pain, substantial pain. so it looked like he got a little substantial pain in there. and on the civil side, if he wanted to be a jerk, he could sue her and for his injuries. >> and just for the record, it seems as though the story in the daily news today is solange was mad at him because he was going to rihanna's party after the big event. the undercurrent is he was supposed to help so dlange's career get on track. >> there is one more part. solange brought some of her friends to this party, the met party and they were using jay-z' name to try to get in and he had just found out about it. he said, don't you have your friends using my name to try to get into any parties. that was what started the whole
thing. why do you have to go out to riri's party? why can't you go home with your wife? i can't believe we're talking about this on "fox & friends." you were talking about the u.s. marshals doing all this good. >> your rights are not what you think when you're in an elevator. >> or hallway or any public place. >> you're never private. >> anywhere anymore, in my opinion. >> thank you. >> i just know this, this conversation was private, just between us. straight ahead, from the front lines to the nfl, meet the army ranger who is trading in his fatigues for a helmet and shoulder pads and hopes to put an eagle on that helmet. can you pick him out? >> yes, i can. but first the aflac trivia question of the day. born on this day in 1944, the film maker is best known for creating "star wars." who is he? be the first to e-mail us with the correct answer. >> i've got it, by george
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time for the celebrity's behaving badly edition of headlines. first overnight, justin bieber accused of attempted robbery. ♪ ♪ >> okay, it's not like he tried to knock over a bank. he is accused of trying to take a woman's cell phone at a golf course in california who was taking pictures of him. and alec baldwin arrested after he allegedly screamed at police officers who caught him riding his bike in the wrong direction here in new york city. he then tweeted this, new york city is a mismanaged carnival of stupidity that is desperate for revenue and anxious to criminalize behavior once thought benign.
>> it looks like 190. now to a great story. >> when the battlefield from the playing fold, our next guest spent the past four years defending his country in the u.s. army. now he will spend this offseason trying to make the philadelphia eagles 53-man roster. joining us in his first tv interview. we are so thankful to have you here. what an exciting time for you, sir. >> thank you. appreciate it. yeah, absolutely. a good opportunity here with the eagles and something i've been waiting for a long time. >> three tours of duty in afghanistan. now it looks as though you will have the time to go ahead and try to make this team. how now after serving overseas are you perhaps better prepared to be successful in the nfl? >> well, that's something that obviously the coaches will have to determine here in the next couple months. i've been in shape as much as i
can, it's given me a little maturity and taught me a lot of things i can possibly use here on the football field. bottom line, obviously a lot of this is going off potential. i haven't been working out as a football player should have for the past couple months, just like everybody else has. but it's great opportunity and i'm very excited to see what happens. >> they've got to be excited to have you come there. this is something you've long wanted since you were 16. but you were playing offense. are you going to switch from defending our nation to defending on the football field in terms of preparation, i know june 17 starts the mini camp there. what does this mean for your transition from the battlefield, just coming back to citizenship? >> obviously right now, i can stop dwelling on this and start hitting the weight room. a lot of that stuff, obviously
the coach also have to decide where they want me weight wise and how to make this transition a little easier. it's a path that not a lot of players have done. i know there was a couple players who play in the nfl. but it's a little bit of a complicated process. so i'm trying to learn day by day and try to make adjustments as i go. >> you're a wide receiver, outstanding wide receiver in college and now looking to be a defensive lineman. you kind of stood out even with the fatigues. i imagine in afghanistan. but amongst these guys, these eagles, you won't. they have a bit of a history there of taking some risk. look at the size of you in that pick. what about the fact that they did a movie about a guy that was just walking on and made it and called "the invincible requesting," now you're coming in off the battlefield trying o make it with the eagles. what is the key for to you adjust to this level of play in a position that you haven't been at before? >> listen to the coaches
obviously and understanding what they want me to do. obvious will he they saw something to make that decision, to move me to defensive end. coaching staff here is unbelievable. i've been very pleased with everything they have to say and listen to their advice and work every day. it's a day by day sort of routine. i improve my technique. i go against the guys here and i try to get better and see where it goes from there. >> we can't wait to follow up with you. we thank you for your great service to this nation and we wish you well in that mini camp. >> thank you so much. >> he won't be like every other rookie. thanks so much. coming up straight ahead, his wife won't throw away any junk mail. she insists on opening it all. is this normal or nuts? dr. keith ablow will examine. >> first this day in history, 1973, sky lab, the united
states' first space station launched in 1998. "seinfeld" aired its last episode. in 1979, "reunited" by peaches and herb was the number one song. that's how brian and i felt in this segment. we were reunited. >> we felt like peaches and herb. >> i was two. >> oh. ♪ ♪ ♪
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ablow every week and he joins us now with some answers. good morning, dr. keith. >> so we meet again. >> we do. so we have an interesting to st. why is it that young people, especially girls, add so many useless words to their sentences. examples are like, you know. is this normal or nuts? >> well, it sure is annoying, but it isn't nuts. like here is, like, what, like, this is like the problem is, i think, we're so uncertain as a culture about everything now that literally our uncertainty and our sense of having no autonomy is creeping into our language. it's all about, like, this, like, do you know. it's all about doubt. there is nothing certain. we better get our heads screwed on right. >> all right. sounds good. you just don't know when to start correcting that.
>> i do now. >> let's go to our secretary e-mail and talk about men and women. my wife won't throw out any junk mail. she insists on opening all of it and we currently have three garbage bags full of unopened mail. she has not had the chance to open yet. is this normal or nuts? >> for this you call a psychiatrist? she's nuts. okay. because you have three bags of garbage that she won't throw out. she either has ocd or those traits. here is the metaphor. she's been searching for something important in junk for a long time. maybe she thinks there is secrets in her family that are worth uncovering when there is really no love there. she's got to get to a therapist and find the truth about her life. not some publisher's clearing house letter she forget to open. >> maybe she forgot to open the big check. finally, here it is, when i'm alone, i start thinking about loved ones and how they will be eulogized. i even think about how i will be remembered, too. that's cheery. thinking about the end.
>> normal or nuts? >> it isn't cheery, but it isn't nuts. in fact, i like it because you know what? here is the thing, here is someone who is not running from the ultimate truth that we're all mortal. that can guide your life. if you're thinking about how you'll be eulogized, you might just make good choices. i think probably more of us should do exactly what this viewer has asked about. >> that makes perfect sense. think about the impact you're making right now and ultimately how they will remember you. good advice. very nicely done. >> well, thank you. >> so you applaud the last ones steve. the other two you weren't too happy with. >> just e-mail dr. keith and he will have more advice coming your way. >> he does one of our favorite segments. >> keep that mail coming. >> thank you. still ahead, is senator joe manchin throwing in the towel on politics? he will join us live coming up shortly. russia firing back on the u.s., cutting off access to the international space station. by the way, i thought we owned
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good morning. it's wednesday, may 14. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. huge developments overnight that will impact the midterm election. we're going to tell you what happened in three big races, one of them will be a showdown for the ages. and just one minute it was staked to the ground. and the next minute it was 50 feet in the air. that is a bouncy house. >> kids are in there. >> three kids inside. so how can that happen? the company that makes the bounce house just spoke out. you'll see it live coming up. then should the health of a presidential hopeful be fair game? not if it's hillary clinton. why the left and some others on the right are hammering karl rove for something that all candidates we thought went
through. we'll examine. first let me tell you this, mornings are better with friends. float our pictures. >> it's time for "fox & friends" >> i cannot tell you how many -- that's a commercial on our air all the time. pinocchio would be a terrible -- what kind of speaker? motivational speaker. >> that's right. >> oh, boy. >> how many times have you been in -- a couple of times we've rented those bouncy houses for our kids' parties. those pictures right there, the first thing they do is pound it in the ground. how does that happen? >> they staked it down. >> i know! how does that happen? heather is off today. we've got ainsley earhart in with the breaking news and we do have some. >> yes, we do. let's give you that break news right now. we're going to start with a fox news alert. big developments overnight that
will affect the midterm elections. tea party favorite ben sass won the republican nomination for an open senate seat in nebraska. in west virginia, seven-term congresswoman shelly moore capito won the republican primary. secretary of state natalie tenet won the democratic nomination. whoever wins the general election will make history because west virginia has never elected a female senator. and former "american idol" runner up clay aiken won north carolina's democratic congressional primary. this just one day after his opponent, the former state commerce secretary, keith krisco died. aiken faces an uphill battle against the republican incumbent, renee ale meres. and one minute it was staked to the earth. the next swept off the ground. a gust of wind lifting that inflatable house with three children inside 50 feet high. a ten-year-old girl was able to escape with scrapes, but two boys that were trapped inside
ages five and six, are now in the hospital. one broke both of his arms after hitting the ground. the other suffered a head injury after falling onto a parked car. >> then he hit his head off the back of my car and then i heard him hit the ground and then i heard screaming. >> little tykes, the manufacturer, released this statement. we're looking into what happened. our thoughts and our prayers are with the children and with their families. we do have a happy update to tell you about to a story that we've been following here on fox. the 21-month-old boy with leukemia who desperately needed the life-saving drugs is finally getting those meds. the company is changing its mind now after first refusing to provide the child medicine to judson shepherd to treat his adeno virus. >> i was very emotional. it's been tough knowing that there is a drug out there and we couldn't get it at first.
it should be easy. i hope the next person doesn't have to wait as long as us in joshua's parents. >> you might remember the company from the case of another young boy, josh hardy. the drug was reapedly denied to him and eventually the company did reverse course after intense public scrutiny. the 9-11 memorial museum opens tomorrow. but we have this brand-new video just in to "fox & friends" of what it looks like. inside you'll see piece of history from that day, including a destroyed fire truck from ground zero and personal items, like a teddy bear. the museum also has more than 20,000 photographs and 500 hours of footage. those are your headlines. back to you. >> you walk into it, it takes you right back to that day. >> sure does. >> thank you. karl rove kicked off a political fire storm in the war of words with hillary clinton. he is getting slammed for suggesting clinton might have had brain damage after a fall
she suffered in 2012. but he says his words have been twisted by the press. >> elizabeth prann will break it down because that's not what he said. >> good morning. let's start from the beginning. new york post reported that republican strategist and fox news contributor karl rove made the suggestions at a private conference last week. not long after he clarified here on the channel. he says he never claimed clinton had brain damage, you about suggest details are not forth coming about her medical issues back in 2012 and early 2013. take a listen. >> she had a serious health episode. this was a serious deal. she's in and out of the office starting on the 7th of december after she returns. she returns on a friday from the czech republic, but then begins over a month long period where she's got a serious illness, ending up putting her in the hospital. we don't know what the doctors said about what does she have to be concerned about. >> hillary clinton's team has not hesitated when responding. one spokesperson said, quote,
they are scared of what she has achieved and what she has to offer. time for them to move on to their next desperate attack. white house spokesman jay carney even took a jab at rove during the briefing yesterday. listen. >> dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge that the president won reelection, including the state of ohio. we'll leave it at that. >> he also said senator john mccain faced similar health questions when he ran in 2008 and is not an uncommon inquiry for high profile possible candidates. back to you guys. >> all right. elizabeth prann live in the gray dc bureau today, thank you. >> thank you. karl rove saying it will matter because it has mattered. as elizabeth prann noted, saying we need to take a step back to 2008 when president obama actually kind of took a shot at john mccain, saying he was losing his bearings because he was getting older, in fact. take a listen to this.
>> for him to toss out comments like that, i think it was an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. >> okay. so where is the press attacking then senator obama for suggesting that john mccain was off his rocker? there wasn't any because there is just a double standard when it comes to the left and the right and the mainstream media. >> is it amnesia or hypocrisy? >> i'm not sure. i will say this, karl rove was at an event. now the next thing you know, he's talking about it here, expanding on his comments. what he brought up was something barely reported. the secretary of state in the final days in office disappeared when she was supposed to be testifying. many people thought she's trying to get out of testifying. later they found out she fell, had a blood clot behind her ear, so there was a legitimate health situation here. so was it the fact that it was fatigue or was it after four years of rigorous tension and stress that she was in bad
health? she was worn out by the end. she didn't look like the same person competing for the nomination with barak obama. so i think that was an interesting point to bring up. and the fact that she's going to be that age, is going to be doing this again eight years later, i think health is a legitimate issue. i think when they talked about brain damage and something wrong with her, they're trying to corner karl rove into an explanation of saying you're out of bounds. i know nicole wallace who worked with president bush came out and said i thought that was out of bounds. i actually don't. especially after hearing karl rove explain himself yesterday. >> the biggest statement that was made about it at the time were the glasses she had on that people can use if they have traumatic brain injury, concussion. nothing was truly explained. the most explanation that we're look at them right here, the most explanation that anyone was given, as i recall, was a letter she actually wrote to barbara walters. she read it on air after barbara suffered a serious fall and she said you know how it goes, sort
of aligning their two situations, trying to be more casual about it. but there were not explanations. therefore, there were speculation about the spectacles and questioning going into an election is normal. >> so with all that speculation, it would be nice for us to all know what exactly did happen because when people had asked at the time, you got vague answers but nothing specific. bill clinton when he ran for president, he did not release his medical records. they released a summary of his health, but they didn't go deep enough for many into his personal health history. so don't look for hillary to do it either. the funny thing is as dr. larry sabato told brian about an hour ago, questions about a person's health is always legitimate when you're running for president. here he is. >> hillary clinton, by the time of the election in 2016, is going to be exactly the same age, 69, that ronald reagan was in 1980 when he was first
running for his first elected term as president. of course, health questions are always legitimate. every presidential nominee should have to have a thorough examination and the results of that examination should be revealed to the public. we ought to require that for presidential candidates. >> you like my input during the interview? got, which ha. it was on the cards. >> but it is an issue. people do need to know about the health of the person running for president. karl rove was really reminding hillary as well, look, you really want ten years of this? the road to the presidency is bumpy. two years running, eight years if you're reelected. do you really want that? that also is something that goes into the equation whether or not to run. >> speak of, is senator joe manchin giving up on politics?
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after last night's primaries, west virginia is on its way to electing its first female senator. while they campaigned for a shot in the senate, joe manchin says he might be done with politics all together or just changing positions. he joins us now. senator joe manchin known for the man who gives straight
answers and doesn't really care what his party thinks. always great to see you. >> hey, brian. how are you? >> first off, the partisan divide, i know you've been on before ask radio and tv talking about how you want to get this xl pipeline done and you also want a fair shot at clean coal because it means a lot to people of west virginia. right now do you believe you have the votes to get the xl pipeline passed through the senate? >> i do. i believe that we can pass it. the bipartisan fashion, brian. that's the way it should be done. the other thing is when i say clean coal for west virginia, clean coal for america. we still depend on coal. we can do it better. we have done it better. cleaned up the atmosphere and the climate more than in the last two decades than ever before. we can do more if the government will work with us. they need what we have. we want to produce and provide what we have. the partisanship is another story. >> listen, in this issue, you have democrats -- i don't care what they think. if it's about the election, doesn't matter. you have democrats lined up to
get over 60 votes and make the president do this, to get it back to his desk saying this is the sense of the senate. but your majority leader won't do it. when you looked him in the eye and said harry reid, why don't you do it, what does he say? >> i've said harry, i came here to vote. i can take any tough vote. i can explain myself, i can look every west virginiaian in the eye and said this would help our country and state. i can do that. and i'm asking him to open that process up. there is other reasons behind the scene, maybe we don't know about. but him and mitch need to get together and work and move forward as leaders are supposed to do. we're hoping that will happen. >> you're a straight talking guy. when harry reid -- when you ask him why, what does he say? >> basically he says it's a moving target. he makes one deal and they change to another deal. i guess it would be mitch and the majority on the republican side. i'm not in those conversations, so i have to say okay, harry.
sit down and work through it. five bills, five amendments, they're all germane to the bill. that should be something we could vote on. i would hope that we could. let me just say this, i think the keystone pipeline is a very extremely important vote for our country and i think also portman and shaheen's bill is very important for energy importance. if we had to forsake and vote on those bills clean we should do that for the sake of this country. >> i would hope it would get done, but we've been waiting for this for four years now. >> i know. >> let's talk about what's happening with coal. are you like marco rubio very much saying to yourself, i'm not sure about global warming, weather has always been erratic and we should not give up on fossil fuels because maybe the environmentalists are putting pressure on us? >> let me just say this, i believe that 7 billion human beings on mother earth here have affected the environment and we're responsible for that.
with that being said, you got to find the balance. i'm not a denier. on the other hand, i asked my friends from really the far left if they will, are you a denier? are you denying that this country can continue to provide affordable reliable energy without using fossil or coal or any of that? it's going to take all of us working together. so deniers on both sides are wrong. you don't get anything accomplished by just pointing fingers and saying this person is wrong. we can go along. if we go through another polar vortex that we won't through this win and they take off the fossil fuel, reliability of 10,000 megawatts of power, we're going to have people that their life is in danger and many people will die. we shouldn't let that happen. reliability is the name of the game. reliability, affordability, what we can provide in this country to keep us competitive. it's going to take everything. i don't want to be relying on foreign oil anymore. we don't need to be. >> senator, when are you going to decide if you're going to stay in that chamber? you're out in 2016. people are talking about --
>> 2018. >> i'm sorry. i know it's been frustrating for a governor. might you run for governor again? might you run for president? >> brian, here is all i've said. basically i don't want my time here to be nonproductive. and it has been a nonproductive time for me. that's frustrating for me. but yet i'm seeing things differently. i'm prepared to do things, i'm prepared to work across. i will not go and campaign against a sitting colleague. i won't raise money against a sitting colleague, whether democrat or republican, whether they're my dearest friend or maybe not. i'm not going to do that 'cause i think it's disingenuine to look them in the face the next week and say, listen, will you work with me? how can you work with me if i was raising money against you and trying to beat you? i'm not going to do that. i'm putting myself in a position that i can work with anybody coming together. i have said this, i want my time to be productive. i have an awful lot of good, productive quality public service to give. i'm going to wait until the 2014
elections are over. i'll see the lay of the land in washington and west virginia and hopefully i'll see where i can be the most productive and where i can be, that's where i'll go. >> very much up in the air. >> very much. >> with the mine disaster on monday. >> it's horrific. i called both of the families last night. i don't know the details on it. we'll get to that. the safety of our miners is the foremost thing and we'll continue to do everything we can to make our mines as safe as possible. >> that's when you were kind enough to join us for the first time after that mine disaster when you were governor. senator joe manchin, thank you for joining us. >> still joe, that's the most important thing. >> that i know for sure. thanks. straight ahead, brand-new calls for a committee to investigate the scandals at the v.a. hospitals. but eric holder says no thanks? then it's not just a problem for the kennedy family. christopher kennedy battled alcoholism and addiction and he's winning. he has firsthand advice for every kid and every parent out there. he's here with his brand-new
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motorcycle crash in missouri. the rider slams head on into the side of a black suv that was turning to the left. amazingly the biker was not injured, got up, as you can see right there, and walked away. elisabeth, over to you. >> incredible video there. no family in the political spotlight has been there more than the kennedys. drugs and alcohol fueled the family through scandals and tragedy. for john f. kennedy's nephew, getting arrested during his uncle's presidential campaign, led to a moment of clarity that would change his life forever. joining us is the nephew of jfk and the best selling author of what addicts need to know. christopher kennedy lawford joins us now. good morning. >> good morning. good to be here. >> your story, your family story is so well-known. and actually related to you. your story, you started drinking really entering into addiction at what age? >> at 13. my story isn't that unique.
even today. most kids begin this process early on, believe it or not. the issue becomes whether parents and society is paying attention. >> why? >> because at that age, between 13 and 18, you can really make a difference in a kid's life in terms of changing trajectory. >> in terms of statistics, one in four young people that use alcohol or drugs before the age of 18 technically becomes addicted. so when you think about right now the big conversation, legalization of marijuana, will that help or hurt addiction? >> i don't think legalization is a good idea. the two most damaging drugs on the planet to the individual and to society are both legal, nicotine and alcohol. so do we really need another legal drug? and big business is definitely going to take this over in terms of the money that's involved. it's huge amounts of money. >> most people when they're walking through adick and
running to or from drug, alcohol or nicotine, are doing it privately, but it affects everyone. 'cause it affects their whole family. it really affected everybody when you were arrested during a major election time. how did you get through that and what was your rock bottom? >> right. the -- people have to remember is this is a brain illness and also a genetic piece to this. i was 13 when i began this process. so i had the genetics. i also had what -- we know today that trauma, an adolescent who suffers any kind of trauma in their adolescence is much more susceptible to this illness and culturally it was an entirely different situation back then. we know much more today, we're paying attention and there is good science today. kids have a real opportunity to avoid this issue if it's picked up early. >> it can cost them their life. it almost cost you yours.
>> absolutely. >> your rock bottom moment as you describe it is? >> there is a lot of rock bottoms. what we try to do today is elevate the bottom. i hit bottom and bounced along that bottom for six years. addicts have an enormous capability to tolerate the intolerable. but today we're looking to elevate the bottom. we're telling people, you don't have to go there. you don't have to go to the bottom. there is ways out. >> how do you break the cycle and advice for the parents who right knew are looking at these statistics need it? >> i work with great team centers. these people -- treatment centers. they know how to talk to parents. it's important that parents pay attention and don't sweep it under the rug. know your genetic legacy. know where you come from. my kids know their genetic legacy. my kids, if they go down that road, they get talked to and there is boundaries that are set. this is what -- this is really
an issue that has to be dealt with in the home. >> sometimes it's dealt with with shame. how do you address that? >> the science addresses it. this is not a shame-based thing. this is not a moral issue. this is a brain illness. american society of addiction medicine calls this a brain illness. it's not a matter of bad choices or bad behavior. >> i would say the first step here that you discuss would be to check out this book for so many parents and people out there who literally have family members suffer from addiction. this will be a life -- >> what addicts know is this book will show people what addicts know and will help normal folks live an enhanced life. >> christopher kennedy law ford, we thank you for inc. bringing -- bringing us this great book. >> thank you, elisabeth. coming up, brand-new calls for a committee to investigate the scandal at v.a. hospitals. but eric holder says no thanks. is it political cover for another scandal? and it's an olympic sport. but the fencing team at one
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this is kind of cool. new research suggests people who are more ambitious will live longer, while people who are less ambitious will live longer with their parents. >> late night with seth myers last night. i'm just shocked that the same background as the "tonight show" in the same city as the "tonight show." two guys who look the same. >> all those shows look exactly the same. >> i have to do a double take every time. >> you do. you may do a double take on this. we have been detailing over the last week or so what's going on with veterans affairs hospitals. first we discovered in phoenix 40 vets sounded like died on a secret waiting list because they never got the care. now it turns out it's all over the country. extraordinarily, now the department of justice has announced no, you know what? we're not going to investigate this, even though it could be criminal. we're going to go ahead and let the v.a. do it first. then if we need to get involved, we'll get involved. >> so you have jeff miller op
one side, wrote a letter to the president saying, hey, this is serious enough. we've got long delays, preventible deaths, botched care when it comes to our veterans. this deserves an independent commission to look into it. then you have eric holder who is saying no, we're just going to monitor it. it's on our radar. no need to jump in. i thought monitoring was for something that actually felt as though it was running smoothly, just in case something is going on. we now know something is going wrong here and our veterans have their lives at risk as they return home under this care system. >> this is the most political justice department that we can remember. having said that, there is nothing political about this. veterans are apolitical. they are wearing these veterans out hoping they would die to keep their percentages die and it continues to grow. every day we come in, there is another state with another problem. the attorney general walks away. so senator bernie sanders starts to speak about it and i'm wondering, what's this socialist who holds caucuses with the
democrats have to say and harry's assignment every day is bring up the koch brothers. >> there is right now as we speak a concerted effort to undermine the v.a. so the point is you have government entity itself, social security, enormously popular. medicare enormously popular. postal service popular. v.a. popular. what are the problems? the problem is that all of these are large governmental institutions and you have folks out there now. koch brothers and others, who want to radically change the nature of society and even make major cuts in all of these institutions, or maybe do away with them entirely. >> way to go, bernie. so he's been able to, in his mind, successfully connect the
koch brothers with what's going on at the v.a. that is one of the dumbest sound bites i've heard in a while. for him to say that they are undermining the v.a., that's wrong. we need to investigate the v.a. there are dozens of people who perhaps have died because the v.a. in the management was doing something that was not up to snuff and now for him to say that, that's just crazy. >> to put them in the victim seat. he's saying the v.a. is the victim, under attack by the koch brothers. go figure. >> he listed everything that's not working. medicare is buried in red ink, social security is buried in red ink. you have the post office, they invented red ink. and now he's pointing to them as institutions that might be popular. but none of them is effective. they all have to be streamlined and reformed. it's not a matter of getting rid of them. nothing is work! >> next time you see story about what's going ton at the v.a., remember, it's the koch brothers, according to senator sanders. >> right. >> let's turn to something that
works quite well, ainsley, she's here. >> thank you. filling in for heather. the pentagon approving a transfer for private bradley manning to get gender treatment. after going to prison convicted of leaking top military documents, manning changed his name to chelsea and requested hormone therapy. the treatment is not possible in a military prison, only in civilian prisons. and new this morning, american astronaut back on earth after a six-month stint on the international space station. but russia says that he might be the last one to go up, at least from america. they're cutting off america's access to the space station. vladimir putin firing back over ukraine sanctions, saying russia will not help the u.s. launch astronauts into space, this despite america paying them $60 million per launch. we just learned
international monetary fund chief christine lee guard is withdrawing from speaking at smith college at their graduation. she was derailed by protesters. she joins secretary condoleeza rice who decided not to speak at rutgers for the same reason. >> students get together as among faculty to make sure students who have opinions they don't like get disinvited. >> earlier we said whether underground founder bill heirs spoke at a graduation in 2008, but he was disinvited as well. and take a look at this picture. it will melt your heart. a firefighter saving this kitten, giving the animal oxygen after being rescued from a fire in washington state. thankfully the kitten is going to be okay. the owners also escaped unharmed. what a sweet story. all right. now i am told i'm handing it over to you, brian. >> all right. thank you very much. everyone is writing me for the
last month and saying, what about hockey highlights? i'm waiting for them to get deep in the playoffs. rangers, penguins game 7, winner take all. the third period, 2-1 rangers. things getting hairy when the puck rolls close to the penguins' net. it's almost kicked in. but the penguins keep on coming. rangers won a dramatic game 2-1. let's talk basketball. looks like charles barkley at 6' 4, 260, and shaquille o'neal, 7-foot, 300 pounds, won't meet for a mix the martial arts match. they floated the idea last week and even gave fans a preview of the type of fight. is there a script and rundown on that show? the reason they canned it, quote, shaq says, barkley backed
out. i'm serious. i would kill him. i would definitely kick his blank because i'm from the street and he's not. you're also seven foot and outweigh him by 100 pounds. fencing may be an olympic sport, but tell that to a north dakota state university. they're banning it, swaying the sword-like equipment, known as foils, are deemed weapons. and as such, possession of use of university owned or controlled property is prohibited. the sword has no actual blade or sharp tip. the team is now forced to move off campus. that's a quick look at the world of sports. i guess the biathlon would be out. >> you don't shoot people. you shoot targets. >> that's a quick look at what's happening in sports. coming up, veterans being cheated when it comes to student loans? they were charged more than anyone else. this morning we have a huge update for our military members. i'm sure bernie sanders would blame the koch brothers. he raised $100 million to push
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welcome back. time for news by the numbers. $100 million. that's how much student lender sally mae will have to pay to settle claims they charged military members excessive loans. 60 million going straight to service members. 90. that's how many people arrested in a medicare fraud scheme. the suspects include 16 doctors accused of making $260 million worth of false billing. and two. that's how many paper applications obamacare contractors in st. louis are
tasked with processing per month. a whistle blower coming out to say employees are being paid to basically do nothing. that means zero. >> way to go. they just refresh their screen. tom styer pledged to raise $100 million for democratic candidates to push his anti-keystone pipeline climate change agenda. but where did stier make a lot of his money? fossil fuels. here to explain, charles payne is here. he made his money how? >> a large chunk of it from investing in things like coal. in fact, listen, his fund right now is worth about 19 billion. about 10% of that is still invested in energy. they won't say what exactly. don't necessarily have to. coal projects all around the world. indonesia. there has been this build up for coal demand. the tar sands out of canada. pipeline deals. it runs the gamut. so it's so amazing in this golden age of hypocrisy, this
guy climbs rapidly to the top. >> what's that message? just not here? it's okay everywhere else? >> that's an interesting message for all the democrats who is going to back them. maybe they'll tell their friends outside of this country, coal is not good enough for us, but okay for you guys. it's the worst form of hypocrisy because we've had a war on coal in this country that devastated thousands of american families. great paying jobs gone. it's decimated them. coal is the fastest growing form of energy in the world. right now, the fastest form of energy growing in the world. a couple weeks ago, ge wanted to take over a french company that grinds coal because there is never going to be a treaty upon coal. all the stuff we're trying to do to be great global neighbors by crushing people in these great jobs is a farce and it's nuts. >> and for all the lefties who are driving their electric cars, those electric cars are running
on electricity generated by coal. >> absolutely. again, for me it's all the jobs that have been lost. the companies that are going bankrupt. for what? and for this guy to talk about this, i guarantee you, if we could follow him for a 24-hour period between a private jet and the mansions, he probably has a global foot print that sucks up more energy in a day than the average person watching this show in a year. give us a break on this. >> seems so disingenuous, sort of crushing these jobs and then also taking a back seat to the rest of the world when it comes to innovation. >> yeah. listen, the environmentalists, i don't know how they did it. they pulled it off. they have the upper hand with respect to the white house right now. they get their way. listen, this guy wa his money, $100 million this way, he should give that to some of these veterans that we're talking about all day long. there is a lot of other things you can do with that. >> in reality, you have enough votes in the senate to pass the
keystone pipeline, this guy doesn't want to get it done, he has enough money. >> the energy revolution in this country has been a god send and it really is the only thing that's keeping us out of recession right now. >> all right. charles payne, king of payne from fox business, thanks a lot. >> thank you. he seems nice. >> he sure does. coming up, she turned around the failing school system in dc, so it may surprise to you learn michelle rhee supports the common core. she'll join us to defend that. first, we'll check in with bill hemmer for what's coming up at the top of the hour. >> good morning. interesting discussion there with charles payne. leaving a lot of opportunity on the table. tea party comeback. we will analyze these election results. we'll see what they tell us in a moment here. breaking news, mining disaster. seems to get worse by the day on this story. and new information on the virus outbreak, what you need to know now. martha and i see you in ten minutes, top of the hour i make a lot of purchases for my business.
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creators and supporters say it's an educational initiative designed to level the playing field for students all across the country. but not everybody likes common core. >> i feel like the common core is driving a wedge between parents and their children. >> we don't like common core. it's a federal power grab. it's an unconstitutional mandate from the federal government. >> so what does our next guest think about common core? former dc schools chancer, michelle rhee joins us from san francisco with her take on it. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> we've had a number of parents on who were puzzled by -- a couple weeks ago we had on an engineer father who said that he cooperate even help his son with a problem like this. this is an example of a common core math problem. it was jack used the number line
below to solve 427 minus 316. find his error. and write a letter to jack telling him what he did right and what he should do to fix the mistake. the father threw up his hands and said i can't figure it out. that's one of the common complaints is the math is so hard for the kids. >> look, i don't think that we should be complaining about having higher standards for kids. the bottom line is that the u.s. is falling behind. we are 17th, 21st and 26th in the globe in reading, science and math respectively. 26 out of 34 developed nations is not a place that we want to be if we want our kids to compete in the global economy. so are we going to have to raise our standards? absolutely. >> no doubt we need standards, but there are some who, for instance yesterday we had governor mike pence of indiana. they were the first state to opt out of common core. now i think there are over three dozen states that have said we just don't like the national
standards. we would prefer statewide or local standards. >> i think what people have to remember is this is not a set of national standards that was a federal mandate or anything like this. the common core was actually developed by governors coming together, local states coming together and saying, we want to do something differently. we need higher standards for our kids. and so it was really a locally-driven process. >> but one of the problems is the teachers are having trouble with it. in fact, here in new york state, the teachers union is now against common core. i believe it's illinois, they're against common core in the union as well. that's got a lot of people saying, if the teachers can't even do it, if the big unions are saying no, maybe we ought to start over. >> let's be clear that the vast majority of teachers actually support common core. in fact, by the unions' own admission, 75% of teachers are saying that the common core is a good thing. the reason why union leaders are trying to avoid this is because they don't want accountability
now that the common core is actually being tied to teacher performance, the upleaders are saying wait. we don't want any of this. we shouldn't have a situation where we are allowing the union leaders to shirk responsibility. we have to have them accountable for insuring their kids are getting a great education. >> sure. well put. all right. we do need to do that, but none the less, the common core debate continues. it's great to have your opinion, michelle rhee, thank you very much. >> thanks. more on "fox & friends," about two minutes away. ♪ ♪ ♪ (woman) this place has got really good chocolate shakes.
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that's it for today. we got a busy show tomorrow. >> how do canine dogs train? she'll be here to show us all of that. bob massi live and also real life models for charity. >> what else is tomorrow? throw back thursday. >> and it's graduation pictures. bill: good morning, everybody. busy show as the tea party making a comeback? that is the question after ben sasse, a tea party-backed candidate, won a key senate primary. watch here from last night. >> you told us that you still believe in the nebraska way and the american creed because it wasn't just a hope and promise of yesterday but it is hope and promise of our kid for tomorrow. you also told us that you wanted to turn the minority leader into the majority leader. [shouting] and it is time to fire harry reid. >> more from that now. good morning, everybody, welcome here to "america's newsroom." we have a busy day. martha: good
it can help improve connectivity. that's going to do it for "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ good morning. it is thursday, may 15th. and it's just so pretty out. >> i went last night to kate's softball game. >> how'd she do? >> well, i couldn't tell because i went out in a t-shirt and it was 15 degrees. >> i know. what happened? >> this is just inclement weather. those climate change deniers, they make me mad. she did well. she's got a great -- >> she's got a swing, what fr what you've sent me. >> she had a big strike zone. >> big strike zone. boom just like that. >> did you call marco rubio about the weather? >> why would i call him about the weather? >> because he's a climate denier.
>> is there some left wing conspiracy already 30 seconds in? seriously. i come here, i love jesus, i love america, and all you marxists are on me. i'm 30 seconds in. can't i love the lord and talk about my little girl without you guys -- >> i thought we were talking about -- >> we were. >> his little 5-year-old jack says can't we all just get along. but he won't let me. >> we have mike barnicle, john heilemann, and in washington columnist for bloomberg view al hunt. hi, al. >> hey. >> willie are you okay? >> i'm good. >> take care of things while i was gone? >> kind of. >> sorry about the bruins. >> had to get out the golf clubs. >> say sorry about the nets. >> sorry about the nets. sorry about "the new york times." you know, i'm such a champion of
women's rights. >> i'm actually sorry about this. >> i am too. i think we have something to talk about knowing your value conference. >> yes. we already did, but this definitely -- >> time to pay -- it's a war on women. #war on women. >> no. it's actually just a dirty little secret. >> didn't that happen with "time" magazine too? >> yeah. until a woman took over and rectified the situation. >> she saw the salaries and said, wait a second. >> fixing this. >> why don't we explain this story? we talk in shorthand. >> i think you have to try a different approach. i think you have to try, joe, shush, in his ear. then i'll get to the stories. >> you told me to shut up. >> there's a major shakeup at "the new york times" as executive editor jill abramson has been dismissed from her responsibilities at the paper. at least that's the way "the new york times" puts it on today's front page.
publisher arthur sultz burger says the decision was made because there was an issue with management in the newsroom. however, there appears to be another issue at play. equal pay. ken of the new yorker breaks down a different side of the story. he writes, quote, several weeks ago i'm told abramson discovered that her pay and her pension benefits as both executive editor and before that as managing editor were considerably less than the pay and pension benefits of bill keller, the male editor whom she replaced in both jobs. she confronted the top brass. one close associate said. and this may have fed into the narrative that she was pushy. a characterization that for many has an inescapably gendered aspect. a spokesperson for "the times" disagrees. jill's total compensation was directly comparable to bill
keller's during his time as executive editor. the pension benefit was frozen in 2009. so, yes, there would be a difference in pension benefit. bill was a 30-year employee. most of that time spent prior to 2009. a lot of notes, according to sources, the pay gap was closed only after abramson raised concerns about it. he also reports abramson clashed with the company's ceo over a, quote, intrusion of the business side into the newsroom. as well as the hiring of a new managing editor for the paper's website. abramson was "the times" first female editor having assumed that role in september of 2011. she will be replaced by dean baquet. >> a lot going on there. first of all, the gender issue. looked at the salaries at "time"
magazine. found out women weren't being paid for comparable jobs and sall ris. now this. >> my instinct is to believe it just given my experience in the news industry over the course of 30 years. not talking about necessarily here, but we have our own story here that we've written about. so we can put that aside. that's out there. but, no, i read that. i was not surprised at all. >> a lot of deeply disturbing questions here. there's also the church/state issue where separation from editorial from business. jill had expressed concern for some time that business was creeping over too much into the editorial side of the newspaper. and she got big pushback from that, too, and was seen as a troublemaker. >> "the times" along with other newspapers have had serious financial problems over the past decade. "the times" also has a new ceo. formerly head of the bbc. he's been here about two years.
i assume his way of doing business is a little different than american publishers. but a couple of things about this story. >> and they clashed as well. >> yes. >> big fight. >> ken is clearly a terrific reporter, so i trust him and his sources. >> he's going to be on this morning. >> two, the aspect of equal pay that you've raised that is clearly part of the body of this story as with so many other things, the hypocrisy in the news business maybe artur ought to read his own editorials. >> war on women. equal pay for equal jobs. >> when you come into a job like this as a woman, you do notice these things. if you come in as a man, you don't. you're just used to it. >> let's get comments from another man, al hunt. >> am i right, al? >> she's right. let's agree with her. all right. so -- no, you're exactly right. and al, it's been a very --
again, some extraordinarily important issues that mika brings up accurately all the time about equal pay for equal work. again this church/state issue that goes to the heart of journalistic integrity. jill abramson weighed in, she leaned in and got even tougher on china. and so there's no doubt she also would be very tough on a business regime she thought was interfering with the editorial side. >> joe, i've known jill abramson for over a quarter century. i've worked with her. she's smart. she's tough.
she's fearless. she's loyal. i think she took the time -- she took a great newspaper and made it even greater. i think "the times" is a terrific newspaper today. i don't know what happened the last couple weeks. i haven't spoken to her about that. imagine if this had happened to the christie administration or the obama white house, do you think "the times" would have accepted that statement from him yesterday? i don't think so. >> that's a great point. what if this story came out from chris christie's administration? >> there's be a takedown. >> it would be like augusta national was back in 2002. >> that's right. the other thing, i'm interested to hear what you think mika. the other thing that troubles me in these stories i've seen in the last 12 hours is she was pushy, she was aggressive. she was run bning the paper.
that is her job to be push y i and aggressive. if it was a man, you'd never hear those terms. she was there half the time bill keller was there. on the pension side, so maybe there's discrepancy there to be explained. but the description of her, that's what you want the person at the top to be. aggressive and pushing things. maybe you don't always like it, that's the way it works. >> actually, it should be -- you know, when you remember someone in retrospect who was very good at their job, often you use those words. you know, aggressive, relentless, tough. and when you hire pop whether it's a man or woman, you don't want them to walk in the door to be like little mouses afraid of the shadow. you want them to be aggressive and tough for your business. so all of a sudden this is a negative point. >> it is -- and i've seen you
running our office. i mean, we have the dynamic here on the air where some people might talk more than you do on the air. but in the office, you run the office and you have to be extremely tough in the office. i mean, that's -- it is unfortunatelily, i mean, everybody respects you. but unfortunately it's very, very difficult as a woman. >> i think for a woman it's a learned behavior. i was on a conference call for the conference i'm having tomorrow in hartford and i was giving my script to a team of women. and i'm like, don't apologize. try and get in there and learn how to engage. look at them directly in the eye, own the table, body language, the whole thing. and i said you really can't shrivel up and self-deprecate and assume it's going to come in backwards. and they looked at me and said we can't imagine you ever being shy and self-deprecating.
i thought to myself, that's how i was for 20 years. and now i'm very fierce. >> is she self-deprecating? >> no. >> sometimes charmingly self-deprecating but also very tough. i would say perfect. >> say perfect. a perfect balance. but the pushy thing is true. >> obviously all true, but there's a lot more of work to be done on this. to be fair to "the times," they need to -- they're going to need to report this story out in a way they haven't yet done. >> can i just say one thing? >> yeah. >> this is the second high-level woman in the last two years that "the times" has dismissed, as they put it. janet robinson was the ceo. so, you know, this is a record that certainly is worthy of
examination. >> they did an internal investigation on that. so we'll wait and see. this game is a surprise to a lot of people. so the fact they have not yet done a big hard hitting long piece is acceptable in the short-term. we'll have to see how they cover it over the coming days. but it is true over the course of jill's tenure, there has been reporting by other outlets about the fact there was a fair amount of newsroom discontent and conflict that's been going on pretty much not necessarily from the beginning, but pretty much throughout her tenure. so it's surprising because it came out of nowhere, but not totally surprising if you go back and look at the tenor of the coverage and a lot of gripes from every side that have been coming out really for the last two years. >> yeah. the people describing her sound like a bunch of what you would think in a cartoon of conservative men. but they're all a bunch of liberals. which a interesting. >> it is interesting. >> do you find that often? because you are very -- it is like a men's club.
>> you know, there are great in news organizations i've been shocked by the hypocrisy. especially on women's issues through the years. especially on women's issues. i have. all these people that are supposedly so progressive and open minded on women's issues, i've been pretty shocked by what i've seen since i've been in the media for years. not much is talking about the hallowed halls of nbc news where we're perfect. >> no. we're making huge changes in the right direction though. i'm so excited about what's happening here. >> we are. but i have been stunned it is still a boys' club in national media outlets. my god, in 2014, the fact this discussion is even being had at the most important newspaper in the world just proves that point. >> i'm not surprised. senator harry reid is sounding off on everything and of course the koch brothers are among his
top targets. he tells buzzfeed, quote, if they think romney was watched closely by me, that's nothing compared to what it's going to be like with the koch brothers. this guy is -- the nevada senator promises multiple votes if necessary. corrupting influence of the citizens united ruling. which in his words puts the political process in the sewer. reid also suggested his recent comments to nbc news about billionaire sheldon adelson have been misinterpreted. here's part of what he told chuck todd last week. >> the two richest people in the world. and they are in it to make money. that's their whole goal here. is to add zeros to their billions. and i don't think that's the case with any -- >> you don't think that's the case with adelson? >> i know sheldon adelson.
he's not in this for money. he's not in this to make money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. now, sheldon adelson social views are in keeping with the democrats on choice, on all kinds of things. so don't pick on him. he's not out to make money. >> he tells buzzfeed, i didn't praise adelson i just said on social issues he's good. but the point is there's too much money in politics. that's true. >> willie geist, he's the gift that keeps on giving. >> put him in context. >> you have to ask why the democratic party has him as their face running the senate. >> it's amazing. listen, he's got a point about money in politics, right? >> yes. >> i think we would all agree with that. something has to be done about it. but when he goes out every day and beats the same drum. again, it's obviously a political strategy. must be working in some races where he's using it, but as a national strategy, i'm not so sure. but if you're going to attack
the guys, get your facts guys. they're not the two richest guys in the world. they're not the world's number one polluters. all these things he rolls out about them to make the cartoon character. you don't have to like the koch brothers, but get your facts right. >> don't lie about them. i mean, don't lie about them. >> at least he pointed out the truth about sheldon. he's in it for public service. >> you think back in the 2012 campaign when harry reid was over and over again making the accusations mitt romney had not paid income taxes for a decade and he would say it every day. over at the white house which was delighted to see reid do that, they'd say harry's like a dog on a bone. and he's like that again. >> you wonder why the democrats let this guy run the senate when he says things like that. >> bill clinton is defending his wife against suggestions by karl rove that her health situation may impact her plans for 2016.
speaking at a fiscal summit in washington, the former president knocked down suggestions that hillary hadn't leveled with the american people about her concussion back in 2012. according to monday's new york post, rove told a los angeles audience last week that the former secretary of state may have brain damage. while rove refutes the exact wording -- >> i don't understand. help me understand. why would he say that? i don't understand. >> he's not smart. anyhow, here's what you get for that. take a look. >> first of all, i got to give him credit, you know, that embodies that old saying that consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. first they said she faked her concussion. and now they say she's auditions for a part on "the walking dead." she works out every week. she is strong. she's doing great. as far as i can tell, she's in
better shape than i am. she certainly seems to have more stamina now. and there's nothing to it. >> do you think this is their way of inserting her age or her physical capabilities into the 2016 debate? >> i don't know, but if it is, you can't be too upset about it. it's just the beginning. they'll get better and better at it. i mean, you know, i'm still waiting for to admit to white water. >> don't do that. >> willie geist. >> i can't stand it. >> i told you once. oh, my gosh. unbelievable. >> don't do it, joe. >> there's a fake scratch. >> i can't stand it. >> willie, come on, man. he's the elvis of this stuff. >> that means he's thinking and not telling the truth.
somebody needs to do a body language expert about that. just saying. >> what are you talking about? >> when you do that. oh, stop, joe. you know exactly what it's about. do you want me to share with everybody? >> he's so funny. >> it's gotten very far though. it's worked for him. >> party's over. all right? still ahead on "morning joe," glen greenewald joins us. former governor of new york, george pataki on today's 9/11 museum dedication. and carly fiorina on women knowing their value in the workplace. that's all coming up in a packed 7:00 hour. then at 8:00, congressman and veteran of the air force adam kinzinger on why he thinks secretary shinseki won't survive the va health care crisis. and a special report from nbc's ann curry on the so-called
twitter diplomacy. up next, politico has a story that could concern most parents out there. we'll explain that next. but first, speaking of concerned parents, let's go to bill kairns with a check on the forecast. >> actually it's parents are concerned when he moves in the neighborhood. >> they do the checks and i'm not on that list. >> what lawyer did you get to get off of them? >> we'll discuss that later. >> that's terrible. >> not on that list. good morning, everyone. ohio and southern california, you are the areas of concern yesterday. look at this picture. this is an airplane landing into san diego. you could see three fires in the background all burning in different locations. how rare is that. then let me take you to ohio. you had severe storms. this wasn't your ordinary severe storms. look at this tornado rolling through the field. some damage was done. thankfully it was mostly out there in the farmer's fields. look at this.
that's up close and personal. let's take you into southern california. this is where the danger is today. yesterday we were about 99 to 100. almost everywhere in southern california. the winds are going to howl again today. and these fire pictures were incredible. these fires formed so quickly and spread so rapidly yesterday, the firefighters had no chance. there were about 30 homes that did burn. a lot of people were evacuated and a lot of fires will flare back up today with the gusty winds and hot temperatures. easily 100 once again in l.a. now to the east, we have flood watches from buffalo, pittsburgh, through virginia. even areas under a flood watch. a slow. moving storm is going to soak the east. we're going to have travel impacts. the airports will be a problem, then we deal with the rainfall. as much as 3 to 5 inches possible. west virginia to virginia. that's my greatest area of concerns. a lot of active weather out there. of course the biggest trouble, the fires today in southern california. washington, d.c. starting out with a nice morning.
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and with that in mind... what's in your wallet? ♪ it's time to take a look at the morning papers. >> that's a live look at the 9/11 memorial. >> memorial and museum. and i've got to say looking at "the daily news" and some of the other papers, i mean, the reviews on this museum from tough tabloid editors and journalists, just so strong and so positive. apparently they really got it right in there. >> it's been a long time coming. the national september 11th memorial and museum will hold its dedication today.
it is seven stories below where the towers once to do. it includes personal items, artifacts, and 2,000 oral histories. including final voice mail from victims to their loved ones. president obama and the first lady will be on hand for the ceremony. the museum opens to the public on may 21st. >> and from "the boston herald." 200 people con officialed dead in turkey's worst mining accident ever. 150 others still trapped inside after the underground explosion. more than 300 people have been rescued. rescue crews are pumping in fresh air. but a fire inside the mine is hindering the search efforts. >> "usa today" radio personality casey kasem was found in washington state just days after a judge ordered an investigation into his whereabouts. the ruling came after his wife admitted to being unaware of his
location. >> that's unbelievable. >> a spokesperson says kasem's kids are concerned about his health and will work to bring him home to california. the top 40 deejay suffers from advanced parkinson's and can no longer speak. >> and the kids have been trying to get control of him or at least get to see him for some time. the wife has kept him away. now he's wandered off to washington state. i think they'll have more luck actually being able to stay in touch with their dad. i grew up on casey kasem. every weekend i would sit in front of the radio. extraordinary talent. "the washington times," the crew of the south korean ferry disaster now indicted in the accident. the crew was negligent and failed to protect more than 300 people on board. the captain, the first and second mate, along with the chief engineer could all face the death penalty if convicted. 11 others are charged with abandoning passengers in need. >> let's go to willie now for a look at politico. >> yes. it's in live and in person today. >> what? >> mike allen.
he's here with us in new york city. >> good to see you. >> good morning and congratulations on the book. >> thank you very much. coming out on tuesday. it's been exciting. bill geist will be on this show next week. >> what's the book called? >> it's called "good talk, dad." we wrote it together. >> that's massive. like beatle mania. >> that's good. >> with a few more laughs hopefully. all right. so we digress a bit. let's talk about this big piece that you have posted in politico magazine today about data mining. we've talked now for a long time about the nsa. this is private data mining and we're talking about children. explain a bit. >> that's right. if you're involved with any school district, if you're involved with any schools either as a parent or working there, you should know about this. privacy policies at school districts and in states are very weak. and politico discovered that publishers of software, all kinds of electronic things for
kids track when they watch a video, when they take a quiz, when they play a game, when they turn a page in a textbook. collecting more individual pieces of data on students than google collects about its users. and school districts when they buy this gear and software could put more stringent privacy policies in, control who's done with this data. but often they don't. politico launched a cyber security site this week and this is one of the reasons this is going to keep being such a big issue in washington and for businesses. there's all these ramifications we weren't paying attention to. >> the idea here is to help children. if a child is struggling in one subject, the software can figure it out and try to help out. >> and do an individual lesson plan. >> what the the major concerns? does the school know how much data is being collected on their
own students? >> the schools paid no attention to this. there hasn't been a big data disaster. there have been data breaches with colleges including the university of maryland. but there hasn't been a big problem with elementary schools yet. but what we're finding on your first question, what we're finding is that school districts, even states, in an effort to help kids to move ahead, to be advanced are contracting with companies that offer great services and make big promises. but it turns out that they're also warehousing an incredible amount of data. not only do they own, but the states and schools don't even have access to. they don't even know what all is being collected. >> i think people are worried about commercial exploitation, right? the question of how do those lists and do marketers get ahold of them. >> as pa parent you'd like to be aware this is going on and try to stop it. read it on politico magazine.
great to see you. >> thanks for having me in. one video challenges the notion that dogs are man's best friend. the cat stepping in to save the day. in the middle of a dog attack on a little kid. but first ray allen proving he's still got it. coming up big for the heat in game five. highlights ahead on "morning joe." ♪ and much to phil jackson's disappointment, that guy, steve kerr, not coming to new york. thought that was a done deal. >> smart man. >> no, sir. shocker it says in "the new york post." we'll explain next. ♪ (mother vo) pregnant...
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all right. let's do some sports. pair of decisive game fives in the nba playoffs last night. we'll start with the late one. blazers and spurs. san antonio had to do it without tony parker. he left in the first half with hamstring tightness. it did not matter for the spurs. green and leonard each had 22. the spurs win. that closes out the series. san antonio heads to the western conference finals. in miami, nets ahead host of this game. up nine midway through the
fourth. looking good on the road. but lebron james, a big three here cuts the lead to five. >> wow. >> and this went down to the final minute. >> here's chalmers. gives it up. ray allen will take the three for the lead. >> that was with 32 seconds left. the go-ahead three from ray allen. how many times has he done that? it's incredible. >> i remember when he got traded to the celtics, simmons was asking whether he was too old to play. i love bill, but a lot of people were asking that question. this guy keeps producing in big games. >> brooklyn did have one last chance, but they lose. >> the nets couldn't get a shot off in the last 12 seconds. on two inbounds. horrible. >> so the heat take that one in five. they move to the eastern conference finals. tonight the wizards host the pacers trying to stay alive there. and the thunder visit the
clippers. the thunder can win this on the road, pair of game six matchups. a surprising move from steve kerr, the former gm and five-time champion accepted a five-year $20 million deal to coach not the new york knicks but the golden state warriors. this deal reportedly was for more money. the warriors have a better roster and will keep him close tore his family and farther away from -- >> jimmy nolan. >> there was the relationship with phil jackson. let's go to the ice. blackhawks in minnesota, ducks in l.a. >> justin williams out to center ice. for trevor lewis. lewis with a shot. they score! >> hail mary now. back in of the goal. out in front.
shut down. still loose. there it is. fowler off. two seconds left. that'll do it! l.a. kings have forced game seven! >> 27 to go power play. ricochetted in! and this will do it. you can hear the canadiens across the way in a relatively silent td garden celebrating they have won by a score of 3-1. >> montreal wins game seven in boston eliminating the bruins. in the west, chicago will face the winner of tonight's game seven matchups with the kings at anaheim. the canadiens move on to play the rangers in the eastern conference finals. the spotlight on the michael sam quest got brighter. the oprah winfrey network bought the rights to film his life. cameras for the draft were with sam when he was drafted and will
follow him as he tries to make the team. >> do you want that? if i'm a player going to the nfl, i would want to keep my head down. >> not as a rookie trying to make the team. >> do not bring television cameras into rookie camp following me around. i mean, if you want to be judged being a player as a player on the field, i would just guess you would not want cameras following you around where all rookies are treated like crap. >> yeah. also doesn't engender a lot of great feelings among your teammates who are not that hyped to seeing you get all this attention not having done anything. >> if you want to be judged as a player with judged as a man, i would think that's -- >> he's carried himself so well too. it's extraordinary he's been so good. i'm just theer play football. >> he needs to just play
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♪ with us now, we got the contributor for the new yorker ken auletta. you causing trouble again? stop that. >> just having fun. >> you're just having fun. well, you know, mike barnicle was reading "the new york times" -- mike, as jill was walking out the door, they kind of elbowed her. >> yeah. slash and burn outside the door.
this is the front page story in "the times." elevating second in command. this is the third paragraph in. t"the times" front, miss abramsn had been since the job since 2011. but people in the situation described serious tension in her relationship with mr. salzburger who had been hearing complaints from employees. they had disagreements before she was even appointed executive editor. no quotes. really no names. i mean, come on. >> happens to be true though. she was asked to put out a statement that i'm going on to the great white way or new career opportunities. and she refused. she said you fired me, and that's what it should say. i'm not showing up in the newsroom today when you make the announcement. >> and of course -- >> good for her. >> -- you talked about her concerns about a pay disparity
dispute. >> tell us about that. >> and she went to confront "the times" about it. >> she found out she was making less than her predecessor bill keller as executive editor when she became executive editor. she also found out when she was managing editor as her predecessor had been before he was promoted, she made less money than he did. she also found out when she was managing editor, one of her deputies made more money than she did. >> oh, my gosh. >> so she was upset about it. >> one of her deputies made more money than she made? >> correct. >> so what happened? >> she went to raise what she thought was a polite protest, and it fit into a narrative of salzburger's mind that she was a difficult person to deal with pit and the truth is there are a lot of people in the newsroom who found her very brusque. that was one of the reasons why
arthur hesitated to appoint her. because she was worried she was rough with people. she was also immensely talented. >> if she only had the soft touch like most "new york times" executive editors have. because we all know you can have a soft touch like abe rosenthal. >> or you think of any editor. >> holy cow. can you believe this? >> he would be described as tough, fierce, polarizing, hard to figure out, maybe even scary. but if it was a woman i wonder if the same thing would be -- i mean, this is a really big problem. >> it is. al hunt, let's go to you. it's extraordinary that her deputy was getting paid more than she was when she was in an earlier position. >> well, i pay a lot more attention to what ken auletta is
writing than what i read in "the new york times" about this story, joe. that -- look, jill abramson is very tough. i've known her well for a long time. she also had people there who put their hand in the fire for her because she supported people. they did some great journalism. and i think you're absolutely right. i think if men had displayed the same traits, the adverbs anded a convectives i do think the prob have overall is this narrative of women being troublemakers because they do in to deal with pay situations. how about fix the pay situations so we are not put in this position? because it does, by the way, if you're paid far less by your counterparts or people below you because you're a woman, that will make you angry and that's
okay. >> and then you're labeled difficult. >> pushy. >> exactly. >> so was there a final straw, if this had been building up over a couple years. was there an incident that happened? >> multiple things happened. one is that this pay thing a couple weeks ago came up and she actually had a lawyer. >> that's so interesting. >> which ballooned in their mind she was being difficult. at the same time she was recruited a deputy to work on the online paper. he felt undermined by that because she had not according to his side of the story, she had not kept him informed. so he went to see arthur salzburger last week and then complained about her saying she was difficult in the office. and those things all came together and formed a view that then arthur confronted jill supposedly last friday and said it's time for a change. >> it sounds like a woman went in to ask for equal pay and was
fired for it. is that fair? >> i think it's broader than that. but i think it's one issue that helped tricker the larger issue. >> name any institution following up on what al hunt said earlier. in america, any politician that if they behaved in such a way wouldn't face a withering critique from "the new york times" for months. for months. any corporation, any politician. >> as i said in my blog post yesterday, "the times" always said we have a great relationship with jill, the ceo said. that's not true. if, in fact, a politician misled the public that way, it'd be page one in "the new york times." it's not page one in "the new york times." >> was there any issue with -- mr. thompson came from the bbc. is there any cultural issue coming from the bbc to "the new
york times"? >> i think there's an issue. they claim there wasn't. that thompson wanted to have more say about the digital newspaper. and about doing things native advertising that is more friendly to advertising. and jill was very wary of that. so that created a point of tension between them as well. all creating that same narrative. >> all right. ken auletta, thanks for coming in. still ahead, fundamentally change the way we think of government and made edward snowden a household name. glenn glenn greenwald joins us. but first a video of a dog attacking a 4-year-old and a little boy's cat who came to the rescue. that's next on "morning joe." ♪ when la quinta.com sends sales rep steve hatfield the ready for you alert, the second his room is ready. you know what he brings? any questions? can i get an a, steve?
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what do we have here? >> people say dogs are man's best friend. >> i coined that term. i was wrong. >> this is such frightening video at first. this child was nearly mauled. >> it starts as a horrific piece of tape. then this cat comes to the rescue. 4-year-old kid playing in his driveway. a stray dog in the neighborhood attacks the kid grabbing his leg
and dragging him. here comes the family cat. mom is right there to scoop up the little boy. the cat saving the little boy as he was being dragged. he gets up and runs inside. he had some stitches in his leg. he's okay, the kid is. >> explain why the mother ran away? >> she was looking for the dog. >> explain why the person filming this didn't help -- >> it's security cameras. >> it's different angles. >> those s.o.b.s. why did they just let him burn up? >> they have video all over their house. >> i saw this in nam once where the camera man just stood by. >> it's incredible. there's a lot of camera angles. >> well directed. >> it's home security. >> that's a lot of cameras. that's an amazing cat. >> i know emma would do it. >> colonel wouldn't do it for me. >> the colonel would have sat there smoking a cigarette watching the whole thing.
>> exactly. gets what he deserves. >> there's emma. that's emma in one of her shameless moments. >> the colonel is getting fierce in his age. >> emma goes after both my dogs and any dog that comes in our neighborhood. >> there's the colonel. >> we got two dogs. and one dog is very big and the colonel's already scared him off. >> well, good. >> by the way, i coined another phrase. >> i love the title of your book. it's fun. >> cats do the darnedest things. >> i'm going to write that down. >> all right. you're just complete idiots. >> your book. i can't wait to see you and your dad. >> it's fun. >> adorable. >> it's a just comedy. 268 pages of comedy. >> presumably your dad sort of carries you through the book. >> that goes without saying. >> i'm sorry, but you can tell
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♪ as far as the impact on my political future, i think it will have none, because i didn't do anything. so i understand the circus that this becomes. you know, you get 61% of the vote in a blue state in november and then all of a sudden, you know, a couple of staff people do something they shouldn't have done. i fire them. and all of a sudden this becomes the biggest story in the country for a couple of months. >> are you still thinking of running for president and when will you make a decision on that? >> yes and later. >> well, there you go. >> he's running. >> that's pretty definitive. check that off. >> chris christie in. okay. >> hillary is undecided. but semi-in. >> we're not sure about jeb. >> welcome back to "morning joe." john heilemann and mike barnicle still at the table. sam stein joins us and in
chicago political analyst and former chairman of the republican national committee michael steele. and chuck todd will be here in just a few moments. >> john heilemann, obviously the reason why we talk about chris christie, why he's important, the only reason jeb bush is considering running is when christie started to falter a bit. i think christie, boy, he's locked and loaded ready to go. >> he looks like he has wanted to run before and still wants to run. there are obviously a loot of circumstances still playing out in the course of these months that might make it impossible for him to run. >> like what? >> he's under investigation on multiple fronts. we don't actually know the final answers. >> open up the newspaper, you'll see an update on it on "the daily news." >> he's not going to let democratic investigations. >> but the facts could come out. i'm not saying they will, but we don't know the answers. but there's no doubt that if he gets to the place where he is
exonerated from the most serious charges that have been leveled against him, i think there's no question he's going to try to run. but he's going to run from a much weakened position than where he would have been had none of this happened. >> sounds like torpedos full steam ahead. >> i'm impressed john had that analysis after the brooklyn loss last night. i thought he'd be crying on the set today. but it was -- i'm sorry, was that too much? >> hurt too much. >> sorry. it was the 7:00 a.m. hour. i thought the 6:00 a.m. hour was too early. >> i know where you live, sam. you realize that, right? >> i moved. i moved. anyways, i think john hit it on the head. i mean, he clearly seems like he wants to run. but there are so many lingering questions with these investigations. and democrats feel pretty emboldened on a new front too which is that the credit rating of new jersey has been reduced in several occasions the last months. there are some chinks to the armor, let's say.
and there would be a weakened position. but it seems like he's full steam ahead. >> michael, a lot of chris christie's detractors said this is a mortal wound. we still haven't seen that one connection to his office that said shut down the traffic. maybe we will in these new investigation, we don't know yet. if he's cleared in that way, he has a year or two to put it behind him. do you think a voter in iowa if you take a step back or a voter in south carolina or new hampshire is as concerned about this issue with chris christie as the media and national political analysts are? >> no, i don't think they are. i think that's an obsession of the new york media market and the washington market that seems to fixate on chris christie. one is obviously the situation in new jersey with the bridgegate and the federal
investigation into the storm funding. but the other problem is within the party itself, the base. how those iowans and new hampshire identities and others view his candidacy potentially as president of the united states is really the real test for chris christie. always has been. everything else notwithstanding all the glamour and love that comes from around the country is not necessarily the vibe that is felt at the base. >> i agree. mike barnicle at the end of the day he's going to be judged by how he works, works it in new hampshire, works it in iowa, works it in south carolina. and they don't give a damn what "the new york times" editorial page writes about chris christie. the more negative it is, the more he can hold it up in a combative way. actually won over some people that wouldn't have been with him
before. >> john heilemann, handicap this for us. you have marco rubio supposedly, rand paul, couple of others. chris christie skips iowa, goes into new hampshire. what happens? >> well, boy, you need to know what the rest of the field looks like. it's never worked out well for people who have tried to skip the first state. i mean, rudy giuliani tried that strategy back in 2008. the party likes to see compete everywhere. not just iowans but the rest of the party. especially if you're the front runner. this was the challenge that hillary clinton faced in 2008. i'm the front runner but i'm going to skip iowa. that projects all kinds of weakness. i think christie has to go and try to play everywhere. the old chris christie at his highest moment when he was at his strongest, i don't think he was a bad iowa candidate. i mean, he obviously is not an evangelical or cultural conservative the way some are,
but he had a lot of tea party support and a lot of populist appeal. >> look at the iowa governor. the iowa governor's not off the rails -- >> christie on his game can play anywhere. >> all right. senator harry reid is sounding off on everything from campaign finance to presidential politics and of course the koch brothers are among his top targets. in fact, the majority leader tells buzzfeed, quote, if they think romney was watched closely by me, that's nothing compared to what it's going to be like with the koch brothers. the nevada democrat ask now pushing -- he's cited corrupting influence of the citizens united ruling in his words put the political process in the sewer. reid also suggested his recent comments to nbc news about billionaire sheldon adelson have been misinterpreted. here's what he told chuck todd in part last week.
>> the two richest people in the world. and they are in it to make money. that's their whole goal here. is to add zeros to their billions. and i don't think that's the case -- >> you don't think that's the case with adelson? >> i know sheldon adelson. he's not in this for money. he did not do this for money. he's in this because he has certain ideological views. his views are in keeping with the democrats on choice, on all kinds of things. so sheldon adelson, don't pick on him. he's not in it for money. >> reid tells buzzfeed, quote, i can't praise adelson. i just said on social issues, he's good. we can speculate who is my favorite billionaire. but the point is there's too much money in politics. >> let's bring in chuck todd right now. it's fascinating to me that the democrats have harry reid running the united states senate. you go back to the campaign, he
talked about romney. yes, he did discuss romney. last hour when john heilemann brought it up that he told a lie or suggested incorrectly that mitt romney hadn't paid taxes in ten years. it was a lie. he kept repeating it. and now he calls the koch brothers the richest people in the world. biggest polluters. he's back tracking now on sheldon adelson. when we've got the tape. it just seems -- i don't see why the democrats have this guy running the senate. >> in some ways you can see why democrats i think some secretly like harry reid is willing to do those things. look at yesterday's story. there are a lot of democrats who think what karl rove did on hillary was a purposeful decision because look at what's
happened. there's been multiple days of questions about her age and introduced that idea. and harry reid in some ways has gleefully played that role for democrats. you know, i don't know if mitt romney paid any taxes. you just throw it out there enough, you're the senate majority leader so you're going to get quoted. you know, you're not just a crazy blogger that's throwing out these things. >> but you just said senate majority leader next to something that some -- >> i agree. it sounds low rent. >> would george mitchell ever do something like that? would bob dole ever do something like that? name any majority leader before -- tom daschle, trent lott. this is just a new low that a party is excited that a guy is going out telling falsehoods. >> i'm not defending it. don't put me in the position -- >> i'm not. i'm not nicole wallace.
i'm not putting you in a corner here. >> look. i have been lamenting. this is the worst, i would say, collective bipartisan leadership of the united states senate in my lifetime and for anybody older, i would challenge you to find it. it is amazing to me collectively mcconnell how it's a combative senate. it's a leadership-heavy senate. it's a senate that doesn't respect ranking members to let them do things as much as they used to. and it's overally political. not necessarily partisan. overly political. it seemed to be a regular occurrence that the senate majority leader and republican leader used to appear together on "meet the press." used to happen all the time. they don't even think about doing things like that now. >> i was just going to bring up trent lott and tom daschle would tear each other on "meet the press" but be friendly
afterwards. >> but on "meet the press" together. >> that's what i said. one time trent lott and bill clinton tell the story of saying something too tough about bill clinton. picked up the phone and apologized to clinton that morning. clinton said don't worry about it. again, we have to go back to the 1800s to find times when washington actually worked. but this is just a new low. >> sure. mcconnell and reid did one joint interview, i believe, on "60 minutes," and it was so cold you felt chills watching it. they don't like each other. they don't want to be collaborative with one another. i think that's a problem with the senate at large. with respect to what reid said on the koch brothers, there is problems with billionaires in the senate. and he clearly wants that money.
on the bigger point, though, about money in ploiks in this whole idea of a constitutional amendment to ban it, one, that's the only way they're going to do it. and two, it's never going to happen. and that's a bigger problem that harry reid faces more than this quipping back and forth. is there's so much money pocketed, so many billionaires dropping tens of millions of dollars which is a drop in the bucket for them, and you can't get rid of that money. >> you mentioned bill clinton. bill clinton is defending his wife against suggestions namely by karl rove that her health situation may impact her plans for 2016. speaking at a fiscal summit in washington, the former president knocked down suggestions that hillary hadn't leveled with the american people about her concussion back in 2012. according to monday's new york post, he suggested the former secretary of state may have brain damage. i want to let it breathe. >> that never gets easier to
read. >> it doesn't. it really doesn't. while rove refutes the exact wording, president clinton weighed in. >> thank goodness. >> first of all, i've got to give him credit, you know, that embodies that old saying that consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. first they said she faked the concussion. now they say she's auditioning for a part on "the walking dead." she works out every week. she is strong. he's doing great. as far as i can tell, she's in better shape than i am. she certainly seems to have more stamina now. and there's nothing to it. >> do you think this is their way of inserting her age or her physical capabilities into the 2016 debate? >> i don't know, but if it is you can't be too upset about it. it's just the beginning. they'll get better and better at it. you know, it's -- i'm still waiting for them to admit there was nothing to white water.
>> there you go, president clinton doing what president clinton does. >> let's bring in presidential historian ray shirley. great to see you. i wanted to talk to you about this latest line of attack. her age will come up if she runs. it has been an issue in the past. why is it different this time if you think it is? >> i'm not sure it is different. first of all, i want to correct what he said. samuel johnson said foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of the little mind. he needs to work on his research. i'm not sure it's different. as a matter of fact, this is pretty much not wanting to defend karl rove. but in 1980, gop operatives were saying ronald reagan was prone to strokes and was palsy.
gerald ford said he had premature orange hair. john connolly was saying reagan better be careful. if he slips on ice in the new hampshire primary, his campaign will be all over. the attacks on reagan and his age were terrible. it gets even worse. it was terrible. and so actually, this stuff -- the problem with this is it's twofold. one is that the clintons overreacted. and that is just catnip to the vile republican consulting classes. because now they're all laying in wait and said, look, if we drew blood on this. we're going to come at them with everything. so they made the mistake. what reagan did, he would handle it with humor. and by the way, let me talk to you why we need to cut taxes for the american people. he didn't get upset, he didn't overreact. he used to joke about like during the campaign in the primaries 1980, he was talking
about why wage and prices didn't work. he made reference to the roman emperor who would enter the death penalty for anybody who violated the wage and price controls. there was no truth to the rumor when he made that ruling. so he handled it with humor. then he would take the issue attacks and pivot it and focus on the issues he wanted to talk about. >> obviously you're bringing this up, another famous moment. the 1984 debate. let's watch. >> you already are the oldest. t in history. some of your staff said you were tired after your recent account with mr. mondale. president kennedy had to go days on end with no sleep during the cuba missile crisis. is there any doubt you would be able to function in such circumstances? >> not at all. and i want you to know that also i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for
political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> funny part about that clip is you realize how hard mondale laughed at the joke. >> that was it. he hit it out of the park. that was it. the campaign was over. but he did that many, many times during the run-up to the 1980 campaign and during his presidency. >> so can we -- before we wrap it up here, these stories exist because there's a tinge of something to them. isn't that fair enough? ronald reagan certainly suffered from the effects of age in office. and you can hear that from insiders who worked with him. >> no, no, absolutely not. >> excuse me? >> no, he did not suffer from the effects of age. if you're talking about alzheimer's or mental deterioration, no. >> no, i did not say that. i can tell you exactly, but i don't think you want me to. i know people that were in the
room with him, and he definitely had effects of age in office in his second term. >> every staffer will tell you is that when he went back to california in january of '89 that he was tired. but he went to mayo every year and went through rigorous mental and physical testing and passed with flying colors all eight years of his testing. everybody who was up close and personal with him said there was no evidence of any mental deterioration during his presidency. he was as sharp as the day he left as the day he went in office. >> okay. well, we can debate that. my point is both these stories, in my opinion, have a tinge of truth. you go to hillary clinton and she was not present at a time when people had a lot of questions about something that was going on that was important in foreign policy. a huge disastrous event. and her health was a question. >> and chuck todd, let me go to you. there certainly were a lot of
questions about hillary clinton's health. this is not to justify anything that's happened, just following up on what mika said. there was a tinge of truth to this. it is something that was asked before. and it will probably be asked again as we move forward. >> and remember, they were very secretive about everything particularly in the first couple of weeks. it felt like we didn't get the details. it took a long time to get it out which is par for the course when it comes to the clintons on these things. in a weird way, karl rove did the clintons a favor. in this respect. now which i think is a legitimate thing to ask of every single presidential candidate. show us your health records. give the public, show the public your health records. it is, i think it'll be an important question to chris christie. it'll be an important question to jeb bush and hillary clinton, joe biden, whoever. and now the clintons can say you're doing the bidding of karl
rove. you know, that is in an odd way how karl rove may have done a favor for the clintons. >> craig shirley, thank you so much. sam stein, thanks as well. chuck todd, thank you. we'll be watching "the daily rundown" at 9:00 a.m. michael steele, stay with us. coming up a round table, and the story of one man who exposed the most secretive agency. how glenn greenwald and edward snowden broke the surveillance state. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ don't worry! the united states postal service will get it there on time with priority mail flat rate shipping. our priority has always been saving the day. because our priority... amazing! ...is you!
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♪ pulitzer prize winner journalist glenn greenwald author of the book "no place to hide." glenn, good morning. good to see you. >> good morning. great to be here. >> so, glenn, there's so much color in this book. obviously this has been a wild year, 18 months for you. but there's color about how this all came together in your
relationship with edward snowden. i guess he reached out to you and for awhile, you didn't do what he asked you to do. and he was surprised in terms of using this encryption technology that would have allowed the two of you two to communicate. you sat on it for a little while and he was frustrated by that. >> yes. in retrospect it's easy to say glenn greenwald is an idiot. being contacted by one of the most important sources in a long time and sort of blew him off. it sort of underscored this lesson is he knew in retrospect, had good reason it was unsafe for him to communicate with me because of how pervasive this surveillance can be. and for me without him telling me anything about who he was or what he had, i wasn't sufficiently enticed to drop what i was doing and install these sophisticated encryption programs. but it is hard to do journalism in a world in which metadata is collecting the list of everyone
who is talking to everyone else. >> two questions. when did you decide to report on this? and secondly, when did he decide to become a leaker? >> you know, it was over a long process. when i was finally induced to install encryption and we were talking for several weeks online and i was getting a much better sense of who he was and what he thought. and by then he was in hong kong and wanted me to come to hong kong. before i would i asked him to provide me some documents that indicated the seriousness of this disclosures he was willing to make. he sent me two dozen top documents. and they were extraordinary in scope. that made me realize this was a remarkable story. i'd been working on surveillance for many years. he decided to leak -- really it was an evolution where he considered it back in 2008 when he was at the cia. had been deterred from doing it because he thought the election
of president obama would rein in some of these abuses, once he saw that wasn't going to happen, made the decision in 2011 to cross this line and taking preparations to doing it. >> clearly these stories have exposed a an over-zealous situation. but given that, do you think or believe that our government has an obligation, perhaps even a right to maintain some secrets? >> oh, definitely. and not only do i believe that, but edward snowden believes that as well. i think this is one of the cruci critical points i tried to explain. he did not leak or disclose to the public a single document. he could have uploaded all these
documents to the internet. he could have given them to people and say disseminate them far and wide or sold them. he came to journalists working with two of the most regarded news organizations in the world and said i should not be the person making the choices about what should and shouldn't be published. i'm giving this to you. i want you working within these decisions. we have many thousands of documents. only a small percentage have been disclosed that's with his insistence to make sure what should be public is disclosed but what shouldn't be public isn't. >> hey, it's john heilemann here. first of all, congratulations on the book, on the pulitzer, and on your new venture. one of the things that's been most admirable in the way you practiced your craft over the course of the last couple years is your insistence on adversarial people in power. you are now more or less in a
kind of partnership with this source with edward snoiden. how do you think about the balance you have to draw -- how do you go about being a partnership with a source and how do you bring some measure of skepticism and that same adversarial attitude as dwrou do towards the government. >> that's an interesting and fair question. i don't know i would accept partnership, but i understand what you mean. i acknowledge that edward snowden and i and other journalists i've worked share a common belief. that we work toward a common goal which is making people around the world see this. we got to work together very closely. one of the things tough keep in mind is that ultimately the only
thing that determines whether or not you'll make an impact is whether it's accurate or not. if you start doing things to sandpaper some of the facts or cover over the facts or distort them for some kind of an agenda, instantaneously the biggest challenge will be done to your own credibility and efficacy. the first goal even with an adversarial journalist is to make sure that what you're reporting is true and accurate. no matter who that impacts. and i feel like we've done a good job of that. that's certainly been at the top of my agenda. >> quickly before we let you go, do you think edward snowden will ever be able to come back to the united states? >> it's really hard to see how that could happen. i think it's important to the united states to punish people who did what he did to deter future whistle blowers. i think russia will likely extend his asylum. other countries are debating whether he should get it. but i don't see him coming back without being put in prison for 30 or 40 years. >> the book is "no place to hide" by glenn greenwald.
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all right. today president obama and first lady michelle obama are scheduled to attend the dedication ceremony for the september 11th memorial museum. the museum officially opens up to the public on wednesday. here with us now former republican governor of new york george pataki. good to have you on the show this morning. >> so far some great reviews. >> been down there? >> i have been down there many times. >> it's got to be moving for you. tell us about it. >> it's incredibly moving. first of all, you're in memorial plaza. you see the voids and the names around where the towers stood. then you slowly descend all the way do bedrock at ground zero. and you're seeing different relics. and there are just two things that struck me, although so much does, is one you see a crushed fire engine. i think it's ladder 3, where i believe 11 of that ladder company died. when you see that, you just get a sense of the magnitude of the loss of that day and the courage
of how people responded. and then you go around another corner and there's the memorial hall. and that is three stories high. and it has the picture and story of every single person who died. and what we wanted to do was let people who not only were not there on september 11th but who weren't even born on september 11th understand the magnitude of the loss and then tell the individuals' stories. because we don't want those who died to be a number. we want them to be humanized and the memorial does that. >> speaking of humanizing this, i want to ask you this and then the governor. you were down there. you were at ground zero. before the buildings fell, after they fell, and you were down there for a couple weeks afterwards. talk about all these years later looking at this as a museum. what are you feelings when you see that? >> well, i'm going to have to take a day to go down there. because i don't think it's something you do in passing. especially having been there. the two things that come to mind
is when we were hiding in that school and you came out and it looked like the movie "the day after," it was such an unbelievably out of body experience that you couldn't really understand the magnitude of it. and the two images that come to mind are when you went to the area of the city where everybody was looking for someone and you saw all the faces. and that was the first moment a few days after the event that really hit me of the loss, of the parents that would never come home, of the sisters and brothers that would never be found, and of the hope that these people still held. and those little trinkets and jackets and voice mails and all the things that they've so carefully preserved really bring you back to a moment that is still hard to put into perspective. >> mike, the voice mails, we hear they have voice mails, the last minutes of so many of these peoples' lives. >> the museum is a critical component of american life, not new york life. it's important that we not
forget. and this museum, every element of it, the governor's mentioned a few. every step of it within the museum brings you back to that moment in time. a moment in time -- we have a tendency to have instant amnesia. to move on from things. we should not move on from this. we should remember. mika, i can vividly recall a few days after september 11th, 9:30, 10:30 at night on 9th or 10th avenue, people standing there with pictures of loved ones holding them up as people would walk by. governor, other aspects of the museum, you mentioned a few. talk about other aspects of the museum that will have an imprint on anyone who goes to visit. >> well, i think there's the personal side of the individual stories. but there are also incredibly dramatic and i hate to use that word because it's tragic, but relics of like the impact site. where you'll see the twisted steel. you'll see the tridents that
stood at the base of the tower. there are so many things that tell that story in a way that has to be told. >> all right. governor pataki, thank you so much for coming in and helping us tell this story. come back soon. i know you have lots of things to talk about. we'll talk politics next time. up next, why exactly was jill abramson fired from "the new york times"? >> because she's a woman. and governor pataki and i are insulted about what happened at "the times." we want a long-term investigation. don't we? >> it appears the issue of equal pay may have reared its ugly head again. we'll discuss that with a powerhouse round table. "morning joe" will be right back. ♪
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here with us now ceo and founder of carly fiorina who was recently oi pointed at chairman of board of directors. we also have the ceo of operation international. and former ceo of merrill lynch. and managing director of marketing at senture. i'm a tad bit intimidated. perfect timing. power group. we've been talking this morning about the firing of jill abramson. you all know jill? >> yes. >> what do you make -- it's an equal pay issue. at some point we'll hear more abt it. ken auletta has a piece out saying she complained recently about equal pay. whether or not that had anything to do with her firing, we won't
debate here. having said that, have any of you been in a situation where you felt like you were approaching a subject that could perhaps get you in trouble like equal pay? sally just started laughing. when have you not? >> i guess exactly right. all of us have. absolutely. it's an issue that's been an issue. we can debate whether it's 77 cents on a man's dollar or 82 cents or 90 cents. but we all know and recognize this gap continues to exist. as do gender bias. not necessarily overt gender biases. but we all have men and women. >> carly, you're tough. right? >> you have to be. i hope i'm also compassionate. sometimes to get the job done, you need to be tough. >> i think i would go to your company and use your company's resources. because you're tough. that's the kind of double edged sword here. >> there's no question that
women are treated differently, caricatured differently, scrutinized difficultly. if you are in a position of leadership and responsibility, there are times when you must be tough to execute responsibly your position. and when women do it, it's just viewed differently. men are called assertive and leaders. women are called pushy or something with a "b." >> like that was something wrong. i'm trying to think when everyone talked about steve jobs's leadership. he was a little strange, wasn't he? >> he was a genius. >> he was a little mean, wasn't he? oh, wait. but he was a genius. i'm sorry. i'm confused. >> the thing i found really sad, honestly, about the announcement yesterday with jill is that "the new york times" and arthur salzburger said nothing about her. nothing about her contribution. nothing about her three years as
managing editor. nothing. that's pretty cold. and i don't think that others would necessarily have been treated that way. >> i think you might be right. we look at where we all stand right now, because the more of us there are, the less this becomes a problem. >> that's right. >> companies need to actually -- i think the bigger problem if she was fired because of raising the issue about equal pay or that was one of the issues, it's still their fault because the issue shouldn't be there. companies need to do things proactively to prevent this problem, no? >> i think you're raising a great issue. underlying all this, knowing your value, is building career capital. no one would argue having those skills as a woman is tantamount to taking the next step. we just spent international women's day celebrating this topic, doing research in 30 countries. the number one finding that came
back, 90% said career capital is what i need to succeed. our clients came. we can't get enough of this topic. really stepping back as women saying i need to focus on this. i manage my money, i manage my investments. i need to own this. >> and vicki, perfect segue. >> yes. it is tough in this country, but when you look at the rest of the world where poverty around really unmistakably focuses on 70% of the population are women. so finding a way to take our power and really help those women. but i want to go back and make a comment about the situation that occurred at "the new york times." any of these jobs are really lonely jobs. i mean, they're tough, but it's lonely when you're in a leadership position. and so surrounding yourselves with a good network of people both men and women and clearly
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why are you so mad? >> everything. >> one of the reasons the columns that were originally published and in the book, you have a tendency to go to the edge of the story, not the center part of the story, the edge. story. talk about how finding the edge of the story is really the most important part. >> especially as everybody became a sportswriter, if you got a wifi and a laptop, you're a sportswriter now. so everybody is writing. to find something new is really hard. i remember when sammy sosa was talking about, hey, my numbers are real. i can't wait for drug testing. so i went to him and i said there's a lab ten minutes from here and he grabbed the bat, he started screaming about me and if you've seen him lately, you see what he's so upset about.
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♪ ♪ welcome back to "morning joe." john heilemann and michael steele are with us and editor in chief of buzz feed, ben smith. >> how you doing, ben? >> i'm just curious.
at your place do women get paid more -- >> oh, stop. >> -- than those employees that they supervise or do you have the "new york times" model where actually the supervisor gets paid less than the person that works for the supervisor? >> this feels like a trick question. >> no, it's pretty straight forward. because at the "new york times" jill abramson got paid less than the person who worked under her. >> i wouldn't want to compare that guy to a janitor but -- >> and they gave some pretty -- >> they gave a very sort of miele mouthed response. >> if any kind of politician gave the sort of response that the "new york times" gave, what would have happened to that
politician? >> i suspect the times would have asked for a little more detail. >> it depends on what you think is comparable. >> they are not comparable. >> would you like to give details? >> we are not going to give details but they are not close to being comparable, especially if you look at the pay scale at the "new york times." >> all right. >> let's go through this story, guy, from the top, and let's talk about -- actually, a "new york times" reporter, i have tons of different contacts there did send me something for balance he wanted me to point out. major shake-up at the "new york times." executive editor jill abramson has been dismissed from her responsibilities at the paper. at least that's the way the "new york times" puts it on today's front page. it's interesting, it's in the "washington post" style section by the way. the publisher told the shocked staffers the decision was made because there was, quote, an issue with management in the
newsroom. however, there appears to another issue at pay. he breaks down a different side of the story writing several weeks ago abramson discovered her pay and pension benefits at executive and before that as managing editor were significantly lower than bill keller, who she replaced in both jobs. this may have led to the character that she was pushy. a spokesperson for the times refutes those parts saying jill's total compensation was directly comparable to bill keller's during her dime as executive editor. the pension benefit was frozen in 2009. so, yes, there would be a difference in pension benefit.
bill is a 30-year employee, most of that time spent prior to twooint. he notes the pay gap was closed only after abramson raised concerns about it. he also reports jill abramson clashed with the company's ceo's intrusion of the business side into the newsroom, as well as the hiring of a new managing editor for the paper's web site. abramson was the times first female executive editor, having assumed that role in september of 2011. she will be replaced by dean baquet, the first fm african-american editor of the newspaper. >> and at a previous job she had, her assistant got paid more than she did. same thing happened at "time" magazine, until they got a
female editor to open up the books. >> candaletta's reporting is not going to satisfy a lot of people and i think its own newspaper will be digging and probably is digging at this moment. we talked about the tone and the tenor of jill abramson being abrasive and pushy and aggressive and a lot of things you see in male bosses and you see in newsrooms and in our newsrooms -- >> i don't want to talk about my behavior at this table. >> not your behavior. >> well, actually -- >> those are usually positive descriptions when you talk about a man, someone who is not afraid to ruffle feathers and get in and get their hands dirty. there's a larger picture here. the "new york times" had some reason that they'll have to explain. but you look at these things individually and they just don't look good for the "new york
times." >> it's hard to get inside an organization and understand what's going on and it's easy to jump to conclusions. but it's been a good paper for the last few years. people can't say she didn't have good news business. they cemented their position as the number one news organization as others are running away. that's kind of hard to argue with. >> jill abramson is an awesome journalist and has a history of being a great journalist, was a great reporter. when she was at the wall street journal. there's much to be said for her. it's also the case that simultaneously, which is what you said, the paper has had a good run journalistically. but there's also been a fair amount of internal turmoil. >> but there's been turmoil at
the "times" for the past number of years. >> no one expected this to happen yet. if you look at the cumulative culture over the last few years, it hasn't been -- >> just for balance, i'd like to just point out the "new york times" also said in a message that went out to the staff "we owe jill an enormous debt of gratitude for positioning jill for preserving and embasxtendin journalistic legacy on which to build. >> in two hours v.a. secretary eric shinseki will testify on capitol hill over allegations that veterans were delayed
treatment at veterans hospital. up to 40 veterans may have died while waiting for treatment. the doctor claims they ordered the doctors to keep a list of secret patients to hide delay in care. at least one leading vets group is calling for shinseki's resignation. the president and defense secretary say the retired four-star general has their support. now president obama is assigning one of his top advisers, white house deputy chief of staff john nabors to investigate. >> there's a lot to talk about from a remarkable stand point. the injuries the vets are coming back with are pretty intense, especially the ones we can't
see. is it perfect? absolutely not. does it mean improved? absolutely. we need to work on it, especially when it comes to mental health issues. >> the veterans affairs would agree. the va department is still facing a massive back log of service members waiting for benefits. as pbs reported last year, files were stacked so high at one office in north carolina, they actually posed a safety risk to staff. joining us now from the pentagon, nbc news chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszews miklaszewski. and yesterday we had john tessler here, who seemed to be
saying nothing, move along, move along. and as he was saying that, the mouths of us here who like senator tester very much were just wide open. we didn't quite get that. what's your reporting show? >> one of the anomalies is once veterans get into the system, it's one of the best medical systems in the united states. the problem, as we see here, is actually getting into the system. and what we're not likely to hear today in the testimony from secretary shinseki is any new details about this latest scandal that 40 may have died while waiting for care. and you can understand that. he'll hide behind the fact that an i.g.'s investigation is still under way. let me give you one quote from shinseki's opening statement that i think is very telling. "i am angered and deeply saddened by any adverse consequences that a veteran might experience while in or as a result of our care."
not consequences a veteran has experienced or even might have experienced. this could be the lawyers at work here to make sure he doesn't overstep any bounds, but you almost get the sense that shinseki believes that maybe there isn't that kind of suffering out there. and in the interview that i did with him, i asked him specifically, do you understand the level of outrage out there? and his answer was, "i think i do." >> mik, you've covered this general, you have great respect for this general. but what a lot of other people on capitol hill are saying is he just doesn't seem to get it on an emotional, gut level. >> you have to wonder if his experiences in vietnam, and i'm not going to try to psycho analyze him, but throughout his career he's been very stoic, by the book, show no, sir emotion. some of these battle hardened generals do sort of take the attitude that you have to put the individual sort of behind you at some point and
concentrate on the larger mission. now, i will say, however, that this problem does appear to be intractable. it is one of the most deeply rooted bureaucracy -- even secretary of defense bob gates says the v.a. is more bureaucratic than the pentagon. now that's saying something. >> wow. >> and let's be clear here because there were a lot of e-mails yesterday and a lot responses that i got from people thinking that i was making this about barack obama, which of course is assanine. i said if the consistent had a problem with the i.r.s. or v.a. and you could call somebody at the i.r.s. and talk to somebody. the v.a. just didn't give a damn. it was the only agency i ever saw, and i had more veterans in
my district than any other district that just didn't give a damn about the people that they serve. and this is going back 20, 25 years. vets in my district always talked about the slow roll. they would just push you off and push you off and push you off. it was the worst bureaucracy then, it is the worst bureaucracy now. there's not a close second. >> let me give you a very quick anecdote. this happened several years ago before general shinseki took over the v.a. i called the press secretary for some reason, it was about 3:00 in the afternoon and i got a receptionist. i said i wanted to talk to the press secretary, i'm with -- not that i'm a big deal but i'm with nbc news, i want to talk to the press secretary. she said, well, there's nobody else here, i'm sorry, you can't. i said excuse me? she said you'd have to talk to so and so first and i said excuse me? and finally the woman defeatedly
said, "we have ladders. we've always this ladders." that is bureaucracy at its worst. >> i want to put that picture back up of north carolina. that is not the picture of a 21st century operation. >> no. >> the v.a. only went to computers in 2013. the i.r.s. did it in 1990. how difficult will it be, no matter who's in charge of the v.a. to unwind this and get it processed in a quicker way. >> it's going to be a process. why are we're still talking about that this is the next step we have to do? we been talking about the lack of care and progress there for a very long time. every time we talk about this issue, it's, well, we need to have a study or do the next
thing. it's high time the v.a. take this seriously. if we're going to ask people to give their lives for this country, we have to be willing to take care of them in the part of life where they need it the most. this essential. i was shocked by senator tester's comments to be honest with you. there's nothing to excuse here. there's no reason to defend the v.a. except to say they have to get their stuff in gear and get it in gear now. >> couldn't agree more. what do you propose? what can we do today to make the system more efficient? >> i think the first thing is let's cut through the excuses and bureaucracy and say we have a one-year back log, how are we going to fix that? if it's somebody that's waiting for treatment that doesn't necessarily be the v.a. how about we give them a voucher to go to their local clinic to take care of them while they're waiting. you have a lot of folks with mental health systems. i've introduced a bill to make that vouchering system a little
easier. something like that to get people taken care of in the immediate term. in the long term, we have to look at this giant bureaucracy we have and why is it so inefficient? it's like the dmv. >> i was talking about the problem of the 1990s. we've been fighting wars over the past decade. americans are still dying and suffering in afghanistan this morning as we're on this show. that makes a bad situation and makes it so much worse. i'm a republican, you're a republican, small government republican here. you look at paul ryan's budget, though, i mean, the way he was narrowing the deficit was actually going after military health care benefits. if we want to fix this, it's going to take a big investment, especially after a decade of war. >> joe, you're so right about that. and it really hits the nail on the head with respect to
priorities. what are the priorities of not just this administration but any administration when it comes to our vets. and you look at a $67 billion budget, which is the budget for the v.a., this is not about money. this is about a process, this is about priorities, this is about focusing on, as willie said and the congressman said, are veterans are served. and given that due to technology more and more vets survive wounds and they're coming back home. you're saying we don't have a system at home to deal with what's happening on the battlefield. that is not acceptable. i think this is about priorities. our budget should reflect that priority. you can have your cake and eat it, too, on other things. but this should be a national priority. you're looking at stacks of files that can't get computerized in 2014. it's crazy. so i really think that, you know, shinseki and others really
have to begin to drill down and be less emotional about this and focus on the process and fixing it for the vets. >> jim miklaszewski, it's john heilemann here. how much jeopardy is shinseki's job actually in right now? >> it depends on who you talk to. i can tell you sort of the underground buzz of those who work with the v.a., around the v.a. is that the president doesn't want shinseki to leave. shinseki with his military record and the like is sort of at this point taking the heat off the administration. and the last thing they want him to do is leave at this point in his administration when the v.a. is under such heavy fire. >> congressman, really quickly, do most of the members that you work with want shinseki gone? >> i think we're at that point. i'm not one of these members
that calls for resignations at knee-jerk level, but i say he has a very, very, very limited window now. i don't think he survives this to be honest with you. i think at the end of the day he resigns. somebody else has to come in. at the end of the day the buck stops with him and the president and the president has to have a man there -- a man or woman there that he can trust to solve this problem. >> congressman adam kinslinger, thank you so much. >> still ahead, wall street is disappointed with walmart's latest earning reports. we'll tell you what the company is blaming its lack luster quarter on. up next, a look at the game changing moment that opened the door to diplomacy with iran. ann curry joins us next. ♪ ♪
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campaign speech. and his youtube videos mirrored obama's, even a bit more highly produced. ♪ ♪ >> that was a clip from nbcnews.com's new digital documentary twitter diplomacy, the making of a nuclear deal. here with us now national and international correspondent ann curry, along with iranian-american journalist iman -- >> there are more -- >> at this moment as they try to create a deal was educated at san francisco state and the
university of denver. he has spent so much time in the united states that wendy sherman, the principal negotiator, says sometimes she forgets he's an iranian because he so connected and understands the american culture. >> so talk about how social media helped bring us closer to this deal. >> what happened is right off the bat, and you really brought this to our attention, the foreign minister tweeted "happy rosh hashana to the jewish people." the former president, ahmadinejad, had caused a great deal of concern about his issues of the holocaust, whether it was really, the state israel. you have the irani foreign minister tweeting "happy rosh hashana." and that set a new stage. >> and when -- it was effective,
but not very effective in terms of people coming out to vote ing. as soon as he took office, he and his foreign minister started tweeting like crazy and started this trend of speaking to the world. so it was a signal that iran is a changed -- or if not changed, it's a different place. >> how much of this is style, how much of this is substance? it seems sense the takeover in 1979, especially go back to 1986, we have been looking for those iranian moderates taking over bibles and birthday cakes shaped as keys and embarrassing ourselves time and time -- >> moderates have always existed. >> who's in control right now? that's a question we asked dr. brzezinski.
>> people can argue about the dysfunction in the u.s. system of government but the system of government in iran is such that you have the supreme leader, who is really in charge of the nuclear program and then the president and then you have -- >> parliament. >> parliament. but you have the very, very powerful and sometimes scary revolutionary guard. as a result of this, there is such a dysfunction. i would call it a straight out dysfunction in the government. who's in charge? it's actually a hydra, which makes it difficult to understand and covering this. >> it's hard to get good reporting on anything that goes on in iran and secondly, diplomacy in deals like this are hard to penetrate. up guys got a lot of cooperation. how did you get so much inside material in this documentary? >> iman has been covering this story for many, many years.
he has terrific contacts inside. but first the rouhani government granted us this interview with him way back in september and he said he was not opposed to sitting down with president obama, for the first time in 30 years after the seizing of the embassy. >> you wrote a book saying the ministry invited you not to stay. but now they're pulling you back in, they keep pulling you back in. >> every time you think you're out, right? >> exactly. >> i think it really was -- i'm not going to take too much credit for this because i think it really was this new administration after eight years of ahmadinejad saying you guys got the wrong impression about iran. yes, we have hardliners and extremists and we have people opposed to this, that and the other. if you look at the clip up just ran of all those young people singing the words to the campaign, let's remember in the
isl islamic republic, women are not supposed to be singing. so there's a lot of signals they wanted to send. >> a lot has changed and a lot has not changed. >> talk about how it's a country divided. we saw in 2009 when you saw the protests, it's red state iran, blue stay iran. mika and i sat through several -- i think you were at a couple of them through the years, sat through several off-the-record q & as and we actually had a wonderful time and met so many wonderful people in the iranian government. and then -- they would say we want to do this and we want to do that and obviously one of the greatest civilizations on earth and then mika and i would walk away and saying, well, who knows, maybe. i say this as a pro-israel guy, maybe there will be some sanity
and then the next day ahmadinejad would say something and you'd be like, seriously, i'm not going to waste my time next year. it's a schizophrenic country. >> you're absolutely right and many inside the government were really embarrassed by what ahmadinejad said. >> has he ever answered a question? >> i think when i asked him about nada and how he felt as a father to have watched that videotape that much young woman being killed. and right on videotape out of one of though protests and there was a moment of honesty there. but it was very difficult for him to answer a direct question. and what's different is rouhani speaks english very well. >> i think that's a very important point. it not just that they speak english but it's also they understand the culture. they do understand american
concerns i think better than someone like ahmadinejad or his administration. >> who was actually a lot of people believe there in 1979 during the student takeover. so i have to ask if you have the supreme ruler, supreme leader. you have rouhani, you have the revolutionary guard, where do they all meet? where do they come together? you say the supreme leader has control of nuclear weapons. how do we know that? well, not control weapons, nuclear programs. and does the revolutionary guard -- >> have a say in it? they absolutely have a say in it. it's equivalent to our national security council. so, yeah, they all talk and there's a little bit of give and
take. when there's a more reform-minded president, they give a little leeway to test the waters but the leader is still very suspicious of america. right now rouhani is in his honeymoon period so he has the ability to make the deal. but right now they're focusing on the nuclear issue, they're talking in vienna and i think there's a real deal. >> if they don't get it done, there's a real sense it won't get done. >> and this looks amazing. >> it really does.
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afghanistan. >> what's that mean? >> it's 60 word written into law, drafted after 9/11 that has been stretched and stretched since then. it's the law although it doesn't mention libya and somalia, it the law in which navy seals turn up in one country or another. >> is he suggesting he wants to stay in afghanistan longer? >> this is about potentially limiting the president's authorization to send navy seals wherever in the world he feels like, which is what the authorization of military force, drone strikes in yemen. >> any reason he revealed this to buzz feed? >> this is been bubbling up, people saying we didn't authorize drone strikes in yemen. the white house lawyers have over the years interpreted these 60 words to say they can strike any one anywherer sen essential. there's a secret list of groups
they have interpreted. congress is considering taking quite a bit of power away from the white house. >> and you also broke that he's looking at a possible constitution amendment. >> you'll be shocked to know harry reid, not a fan of the koch brothers, is pushing a constitutional amendment to limit that they and the people on the left as well, the sort of unregulated, unlimited outside spending they do. a constitutional amendment is as much an excuse to yell about people as it is to get anything done. >> we want to turn to "business before the bell" now. sarah eisen, how do the numbers look? >> they look pretty solid. the fewest amount of americans filed unemployment claims last week all the way back to 2007, the number dropping below 300,000. that is certainly progress, i would say, on the job front. it follows a trend of fewer
firings and fewer americans having to file for benefits and consumer inflation rising and it's a positive sign because as the economy heals and it improves, you do want to see these prices move up a little. it is a sign -- >> of confidence. >> yeah, that we're getting past the frigid weather slump. and speaking of the cold weather, that's hit walmart. that's the big earnings mover of the day today, fifth consecutive quarter of decline for u.s. sales. they did blame it a lot on the harsh winter weather but their forecast for the current quarter was also pretty disappointing. traffic is down at these major retailers so walmart is trying to beef up its e-commerce business. >> sara eisen, thank you so
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>> the new issue of "time" magazine. >> it is ringing the bell of the issue of rape on campus. just reading it right now, you really get a sense of how, first of all, how big this issue is. >> it's a big issue. and it's one where i think we're at an inflexion point. washington is basically saying to american universities either you take this more seriously and you quit treating this as an internal matter or you're not only putting your students at risk, you're putting your
institutions at risk. until now the trend has been to treat this as an internal matter. washington is trying to reverse the incentives, saying if you don't take real steps to address this on your campus, you're going to risk losiing funding under title ix. >> we were on the look for girls and they were easy prey. they wouldn't know anything about our techniques. the man goes on to explain those techniques. we'd invite them to the party, get them drinking right away. we'd have kegs of beer but we also had some kind of punch, our own home brew. we'd make it with a real sweet juice and just pour in all kinds of alcohol. the man goes on to describe
removing the woman's clothing. she tries pushing him off and he pushes her back and down and pushes her arms across her chest child having intercourse. >> even though we heard the statistics of one in five college girls being the victim of some sort of sexual assault, of that found is a small group of men committing serial rapes. they are repeat offenders who are in some cases guilty of raping four, five, six girls. so, again, we know what works, that much more transparent reporting, much more bystander intervention of teaching all kid, men and women, that when you see something that could turn into a dangerous situation, you intervene in teaching kids from the first week of freshman
year about how to not be passive witnesses to what one college describes as the rape culture on campus. that's how serious it is. >> and there's a legitimate question raised in the controversy is the universities in how they deal with this are not particularly well equipped to deal with it. there's the prevention thing and then there's what you do when these occur. you're essentially having a trial and yet not in the court of law. so you have a rather difficult issues around justice. >> and what should the standard of evidence be. it should be exactly the same as it would be to put someone in jim or should the standard for throwing someone off campus be a different one? if i were the father or mother of a boy in college, i would be worried about their rights. and obviously as a mother of a girl in college, i'm worried about her safety. but it's a conversation that has to be entered into way more
transpare transpare transparently. >> but it also has to do around binge drinking. you can get a girl completely drunk and bring her into a room and -- >> and the phrase was changed to include the phrase "without the consent of the victim." if a woman is incapacitated, that also counts as rape. >> i'm not even in college yet with my kids, in my town it's out of control. i can't even imagine on a college campus. >> on a vast majority of places, alcohol -- >> you have to go to bigger institutions. you talk about the serial offenders, you also can have fraternities where the serial
offenders pour the alcohol into the punch and, you know, administrations need to come in and shut fraternities down, kick them off campuses, shut sororities down, kick them off campus and have a zero tolerance policy. >> in one survey 77% of u.s. colleges and universities reported no rapes that year on their campuses. >> that's ridiculous. >> one way they were able to say that is if it didn't occur on campus, then it didn't count. if it occurred off campus, it didn't count in the statistics. >> one of the things that's been noticeable in my adult lifetime as many campuses have gotten much stricter on the question of drinking and drug use and almost as the policy has gotten stricter, the problem has gotten more severe in an inverse relationship than what you would have thought. >> i think that's right.
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memorial and museum. of course, 10:00 dedication. it's been a long, long wait. but it looks like they've done a remarkable job. >> take a day and go down there. it does help you to remember and put it into perspective, if that's possible. >> john, what did you learn today? >> i learned the new york city story with jill abramson is fascinating and it has a lot more to get unravelled before we know actually what is has happened. >> and the "new york times," it's going to present interesting challenges to the "new york times" as a news organization. this is one of the top stories in america. they're going to have to cover it and figure out what the salaries were. >> absolutely. hard to do but the times has the resources if they're honest and candid. >> i suspect there are a lot of women who work at the "new york times" who are going to want to get to the bottom of this. >> we're going to talk about this and other issues at the
forum tomorrow in downtown hartford. >> lovely downtown hartford. >> chuck todd is straight ahead with "the daily rundown." as always, we'd like to thank you for your patience. >> ah, the washington hot seat. just an hour from now, secretary eric shinseki sits down for tough senate questions as the veterans affairs scandal grows and the white house gets hands on. and also the official dedication of the september 11th memorial in museum in lower manhattan. we'll have full coverage of the president's arrival there and the full program throughout the morning. >> plus, has the presidential primary debate process
t is up next. going to be a very special episode. >> very special time. >> special panel. >> yeah. >> all right just keep looking at it. ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm brett baier in washington, breaking news tonight, a deadly shootout during an anti-terrorist operation in belgium, suspects were said to be on a major attack. for the latest let's go to rick leveanthal. >> reporter: they say there is no link between the terrorists but there is a threat between the ongoing islamists in this region. they tracked extremists who returned from belgium to syria apparently were trained for terror. when counter terrorism experts
were there they opened fire, security forces killed two, wounded another and made numerous arrests, raiding a dozen locations. no security personnel were injured. and there was another arrest regarding amedy coulibaly. it was an arsenal with rocket launchers possibly arming the kouachi brothers as well, who attacked the newspaper killing 12. last month, the french ambassador explained where the terrorist weapons are coming from. >> i think they were in brussels, in the neighborhood of the station where there is a lot of trafficking. you know, because now, weapons are coming from the balkans. so you have a lot of kalashnikovs that unfortunately you can buy for 2,000 euros. >> numerous suspects were on the
run, possibly in france, this country remains on the highest state of alert and belgium on high alert, as well. >> rick leventhal, thank you. and more on charlie hebdo the pontiff condemns killing in the name of god but he also says there are limits regarding freedom of expression if they ridicule somebody's faith. back here on capitol hill lawmakers are being warned their work place is a target. christopher cornell was arrested wednesday and charged with attempting to kill a u.s. government officer and plant pipe bombs at the u.s. capital. the fbi said that cornell expressed his support for isis. his family said that he was egged on he is due in court tomorrow afternoon. as terror plots unfold throughout the world, critics
are shocked that the obama administration is continuing to free gitmo detainees who may return to the battlefield. more from the white house. >> reporter: exactly a week after the terror attacks in paris, president obama released five guantanamo detainees all yemeni nationals. despite the fact they could be linked to the terrorists. >> you have to be out of your mind to let the terrorists go especially with the mindset that is going on. what is going on in the white house? this could be the craziest thing. >> white house spokesperson josh earnest defended the decision saying some were bordering yemen. >> the national recommendation from the national security team that steps could be put in place to ensure that when these individuals are transferred that we can significantly mitigate any threat. >> notice that earnest said they
can only mitigate the threat which means which means the disaster could be in the making. since one terrorist allegedly used a trip in 2011. the senate quoted, if the report is accurate we just sent four guantanamo detainees with ties to imam, the country that is a jump point to travel to yemen to terrorist training. the public is on edge about gitmo and terrorists overall. with a more concern about the islamist extremism as the president heads into the next state of the union. asked if the president made the country safer 49% said he mostly failed. 60% of people around the world said he mostly failed, 32% said he mostly succeeded. the president wants to keep gitmo open despite the wishes. when asked about the transferring of detainees 57%
say yes, 37% say no. earnest pushed back on the claims that the detainees return to the battlefield, saying the number is far lower. >> isn't that still a problem? 6% of these detainees wind up going back into terrorism, and could kill people in washington or overseas. >> this administration continues to pursue a very aggressive counterterrorism strategy. at the same time it would also be unwise to neglect the fact that our -- the prison at guantanamo bay continues to inspire violent acts around the globe. so it is not as if we can avoid violence by just keeping the prison open and keeping them all locked up. >> now the president has a working dinner with the key ally president david cameron, they will be live where all the terrorist issues are front and center. >> what do you think should be done about gitmo detainees?
let me know on twitter @bretbaier use @bretbaier. and the terror group, boko haram still proves to be a major threat. we look at what could be to come. >> reporter: the brutal attacks happening in northeastern nigeria, houses burning as the rescue teams recover the dead. the exact death toll is unclear but it is thought around 2,000 people may have been killed. sources say militants may have carried out the deaths over the last several days. the killings have invoked international condemnation. >> what they have done is a crime against humanity nothing less. it is an enormously horrendous
slaughter of innocent people and boko haram continues to present a serious threat. >> amnesty international says that these satellite images all evidence of the violence, the red dots show healthy vegetation just before the attacks started. in images taken after, they are mostly gone, scorch marks seen among the buildings, homes destroyed. >> what they see is the scale of the attacks and the damage that was caused by boko haram in a very short space of time. >> boko haram is notorious for the violent attacks but this is the worst to date. they shocked the world when they kidnapped close to 300 school girls last year and also carried out bomb attacks, including a recent suicide bombing at the market place killing 16 people. a 10-year-old girl was used as the bomber. >> there are fears that boko
haram may cause more attacks head of the elections, ultimately they want to establish their own islamic state. but they have wider ambitions, and praising last week's attacks in paris. >> kitty logan in london, thank you, kitty. were on the edge of the most bitter thaw with the relations between u.s. and cuba. more on the changes afoot. >> reporter: as of midnight tonight, americans will be able to visit cuba without a government license book their own travel use credit cards spend as much in cuba as they want and send four times as much money as what been permitted each year to relatives in cuba. the increased contact and economic ties they argue will empower the cuban people. >> they urge we should normalize the relationship with cuba. the effect would be that by the increased contact with the cuban people and the cuban government
would only serve to put more pressure on the castro regime to abide by protect and even advance the basic human rights that we hold dear in this country. >> critics of the new cuba policy say the increased travel and trade to cuba is an economic lifeline for a castro regime that has made no concessions to democracy. >> it is this naive notion that somehow you extend your hand to a brutal dictator that somehow that would change them and they would no longer be a brutal dictator. >> that comes after the release of political prisoners that the u.s. wanted free. while the overall economic embargo remains in place it will now be easier for u.s. industries to export to cuba. >> there is an put, particularly in the tell -- telecommunications to occur and more travel to occur. >> reporter: they are hoping for
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the tell . republicans made their way to sunny san diego today a shadow is being cast over big-name players over some potential 2016 candidates who may have hoped this event would give them a bit of a bump. here is chief political correspondent carl cameron. >> reporter: at the meeting in san diego, wisconsin governor
scott walker debuts tonight on the 2016 campaign trail. supporters say his brand of conservatism can unite the party and the gop no small feat he said in his book that mitt romney ran a lousy campaign he is overshadowing walker from the deck of the uss museum. ben carson addressed the group and commented on isis to the complacency of the voters. >> isis is willing to die for what they believe. while we are busily giving away every belief and value for the sake of political correctness. we have to change that. >> the former pediatric
neuro-surgeon and tea party darling apologized for plagiarism and said the publisher is making corrections. with bush and romney already privately sniping at one another, some conservatives are privately criticize both of them as too moderate to lead the gop. nonetheless, the numbers show walker santorum and others accelerating their time tables to avoid being left behind. the rnc has approved holding their convention in july next year, to create more time to battle the democratic nominee, who most republicans expect will be hillary clinton. both parties have potential presidential prospects with big names and capacity to raise money and are well established politicians. for the 20 others looks for the
potential nomination, they say it is time for change that those names represent yesterday and it is time for the future. and scott walker says it is time for a fresh face. he will be speaking here tonight. and finally today, the rnc has decided the response to president obama's state of the union speech next week will be delivered by freshman senator joany ernst, who had a big victory in the election for the triumph of the republicans to take back the senate majority. she will respond to the president after tomorrow night. >> car cameron, live in san diego, thank you. stocks fell for the fifth straight day, the dow fell 106, the s&p off 19, the nasdaq closed 69 behind. the irs is not trying to win any friends. expect this tax season to be even worse than last year as excuses continue to pile up. chief congressional correspondent mike emanual looks at the embattled agency with
more problems than solutions. >> reporter: during tax season they are warning that the taxpayer numbers are lower and getting worse. for example, more than half of the 100 million people expected to call this year will actually reach a person and callers to get through will likely wait a half hour and possibly longer during peak hours. the new chairman of the house oversight committee says he wants answers. >> there is no doubt that the answer is coming from the committee on probably more than one occasion. how they will have more service disruption because they have to tighten their belt like everybody else, they have to explain. >> the irs watchdog said that tax issues are not getting done. the irs commissioner in his complain about budget cuts $346 million this year. and in an internal e-mail,
koskinen warned the reduction in staffing means the government will lose at least $2 billion in would have been collected. yet after the targeting of conservative groups, the irs has been an easy target. >> i don't think that you know, based on the irs' record the past couple of years there is a whole lot of sympathy for you know, the complaints that they're now making about not having a funding. >> koskinen has also warned there will likely be delays in paying tax refunds and the operation will likely need to shut down operations for two days in the fiscal year. the watchdog predicts the agency may answer 43% of phone calls received. >> this is not a correct response. they should not have this type of service disruption. >> congress may also play a role in fixing the issues. the irs watch dog recommends comprehensive reform to protect
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the expression politics make strange bed fellows holds true once again. this time, it is over solar power in florida, senior correspondent john roberts has more. >> if they can get this on the ballot it will past. >> reporter: it is the strangest of coalitions from the tea party, christian coalition and libertarian groups on the right, all united to harness solar
power in the sunshine state. >> being good stewards, craving energy and choice is not a leftist or a right or radical issue, it's an american issue. >> reporter: this group is hoping to put a constitutional amendment on the 2016 ballot to change the laws on solar, to sell power directly to tenants and neighbors. deborah dooley is with the tea party, steven smith with the coalition for alliance of energy. >> how do you keep the peace here? >> we put blinders on and respect, have a mutual respect for our differences. >> just because some conservatives disagree with us say like on things like climate change doesn't mean we can't work together. >> the plan would directly challenge the opportunities they had over distribution. dooley has been targeted by groups aligned by the kuch
brothers. >> it has been called a conservative front for the left. if you google my line, i have been called many things but i've never been called a tree hugger. >> the coalition expects they will wage a massive campaign to kill the measure. holding the group together will be a challenge but one they cannot afford to fail. >> we cannot beat billion dollar corporations if we can't hang together. we all recognize a sort of david and goliath type of measure. >> a poll conducted last fall found if they can do that it would likely pass by a wide margin. bret? >> john roberts in tallahassee, thank you. the attorneys who with held evidence during the corruption trial against the late
republican senator ted stevens had their charges cleared. the justice department violated its own rules when they suspended two federal prosecutors without pay for failing to turn over evidence that could have helped stevens' defense. alaska republican senator lisa makowsky is very upset about it, and disciplining the justice system will be difficult, as she considers the measure. and more on the grapevine after a quick time out.
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christian religion stripped from everywhere in public. >> the evangelists called on franklin graham to with hold support from duke as christianity is being with held. as they say anybody who doesn't submit to sharia law, they say duke is promoting thchlt late this afternoon duke said they reconsidered because the intending effect of reuniting people on campus was not accomplished. and he won back his seat in the special election to replace him this week, all to despite the fact he is still serving his jail sentence. democratic delegate joe morrisey was accused of a sex scandal involving his 17-year-old receptionist who is now
pregnant. he said he was framed. saying the allegations didn't bother his election, he ran as an independent after democrats blocked him from his party's nomination yesterday he had to hitch a ride from jail to the state house. this was not his first brush with controversy, the former prosecutor has a history of arrests and court citations that led to him being disbarred in 2001. and finally a lesson in proofreading the sheriff's office in pinellas county got new badges here, no one from the rug manufacturer to the deputies took a close look at the finished product it says instead of god we trust the rug read "in dog we trust." they noticed the error, the rugs were rolled up yesterday and the mistake is in the process of
being corrected. we told you yesterday in the outside the beltway segment of the remarkable free-climbing achievement that happened in california yesterday. but it was so inspiring, we wanted to share it with you in detail. >> reporter: yosemite's fiancee el capitain has lured many over the years but no one has scaled the wall without gear to hold them up. but after 19 days of difficult progress, the two did just that using only their hands and feet to summit the route considered by many to be the hardest free climb in the world. >> i think it is just simply a concrete example of things that everybody relates to. you know teamwork dreaming big, tackling a project. >> they reached the summit wednesday, to cheers and relief from family and friends. >> really, i would say relief is a stronger emotion than pride.
i have been proud of him for a long time. >> reporter: and what a display of focus strength and courage polling themselves up by their fingerprints and wearing ropes only to catch them if they fell, which jorgenson did several times. the climbers spent several years learning the wall plotting a route to find even the tiniest ledges and hand holds. they slept in tents at night when the rock was cold and less slick. crews delivered supplies while the valley floor watched in awe. >> that is just amazing, the integrity and fortitude. >> and president obama tweeted them on saying you reminded us that anything is possible. >> people are looking to be inspired looking to find something to capture their imaginations. >> the climbers gave a lot of credit to their support team and to each other each saying they
couldn't make it to the top without each other's encouragement and accomplishments. now, they hope to find their own don wall and find their own dreams. claudia, thank you. for the first time the army will allow women to compete in the two-month army ranger combat school. the spring course has approximately 60 women scheduled to participate. it is considered one of the first steps in the special ops field. the women who want to complete the course can wear the ranger tab, but they can't be allowed in the regiment that requires more schooling. and we'll talk about the terror plot in belgium and more on gitmo releases. after a quick time out. acid blocking brand available without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protection™
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iraq and syria are great platforms for islamist terrorists. and allowing them out of gitmo makes no sense. >> i can tell you only 6% or so of those transfers have been suspected of or have been confirmed to -- to have rejoined the fight. >> if it's 6% isn't that still a problem? >> it is, and it is certainly why this administration continues to pursue a very aggressive counterterrorism strategy. at the same time, ed it would also be unwise to neglect the fact that our -- the prison at guantanamo bay continues to inspire violent acts around the globe. >> one week after the terrorist attacks in paris the administration has released five more guantanamo bay detainees, this is a major counterterrorism
operation know operation. in belgium, they stopped a major attack. and let's bring in juan williams and syndicated columnist charles krauthammerer. the president transferring gitmo detainees, exceeds authority? yes, 54%, and if an isis terrorist is captured on battlefield, where should they go? 59%, guantanamo bay. what about exceeding his authority? >> it does not exceed his authority. because these prisoners are either contained by the justice department or defense department or both or a combination of both. but either way they're in the executive branch. and the president has total discretion over what prison they go to, what prisons he wants to open and close and whether or not he wants to leave them. i'm not saying it is a wise decision to let them go. but it is clear he has that authority. the perception however is that
he doesn't have that authority because this administration has a tenure to do this today after the events in belgium and following the massacre in paris,iticalpolitically, but legally it is permissible. >> you're a pro-closing guantanamo bay, you're just saying not now? >> i'm saying, the government cannot escape federal laws or federal judges or the constitution. and they have to either try these people or let them go. the five people he let go today or announced they let go today, i guess they went a few days ago were ordered to release five years ago. and none of the five of them have ever been charged with anything. now, i understand the perception that they're bad people but for lindsey graham to say they're murderers when there is no evidence they are, is troubling. >> they're characterized as the
worst of the worst, juan, said kouachi, one of the paris terrorist suspects suspected in july 2011. if that report is accurate we just sent four guantanamo bay detainees with potential al qaeda ties to iman, the place that was possibly the jumping off point to travel for terrorist training. >> right, it is extremely concerning. you have to take steps wherever possible, to make sure the folks don't go back to the battlefield. can you do it. you have differences on numbers some say 30%, you heard josh earnest say 6% today. but the fact is, as henry pointed out, some are still getting back to the battlefield. i think it is really critical to say martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs, said sunday that it is the recommendation of the national security staff to
president obama that he close guantanamo bay because it continues to inspire islamic extremism around the globe. >> okay, well, with that i want to get to some of the tweets and facebook messages that we've just gotten in. first, this e-mail, gene barrett writes, unwise to keep guantanamo open because it inspires violent acts all around the world. i wonder what killing their people with drones in yemen does. tex chick writes keep the detainees, releasing them amounts to events like paris. and one writes i don't understand why congress won't react. you just kind of get the same flavor. >> the idea of guantanamo, is it recruiting the tool for isis or al qaeda is nonsense, do you think the guys who killed the journalists in paris were
inspired by gitmo? do you think the guys who had the hostages at the deli in paris were inspired by gitmo? 9/11 happened before gitmo even existed. they have a long list of grievances, and at the end of the day, gitmo sits somewhere in the long list. remove it, there are a dozen elements that will refill it. these people are inspired by our objection to the way of life and the fact we defend our way of life around the world. and they believe in islamist supremism, where sharia is in charge and they run the rules where isis is the state. there can be other arguments against gitmo, i think they're very weak. but this recruitment idea is preposterous preposterous. >> what you say i think is true. nobody would imagine that gitmo is the entirety of their
complaint against us, the american people. i'm taken by what the chairman of the chiefs dempsey says, saying it inspires whether it should be or not and it is used by a recruiting tool by the terrorists. >> i want to play a sound bite from somebody who worked down there at guantanamo. >> every american needs to ask themselves this question do you feel safer with detainees in or out of gitmo? and if the answer is in, then you need to cry it from the tallest mountain top and get the senators to stop the release of detainees. i think we need to remember also, that the president declared the war on terror over, unilaterally in 2013. and that set a dangerous precedent. if the president feels that the war is over then the only thing
that makes sense vis-a-visa the detainees, then they're victims nothing could be further from the truth. >> much of what he said is true much of it is political. the prosecution system in gitmo is not only fair, but it's a failure. nobody has been tried for 9/11 or convicted of a serious offense, nobody has been sentenced to long terms. >> the prosecution in virginia has never lost a case getting life sentences on the people they charged. the combination of military and judicial branch systems that we have for trying at gitmo doesn't work. >> last word, if we get some money on the battle field, wherever it is and it's worldwide and there are imminent thoughts on a terror attack, where do we take them?
>> well, that is the other part of the issue there are other people that general dempsey said you just would never think about releasing. what do you do with them? he put it on our political leadership to come to a resolution, but we don't have a resolution given the failures of the structure, given what you just heard described by judge napolitano. coming up, more on the 2016 moves, as well. are your joints ready for action? osteo bi-flex® with joint shield™ nurtures and helps defend your joints° so you can keep doing what you love. what'd you guys do today? the usual! osteo bi-flex®... ready for action. and an early morning mode. and a partly sunny mode. and an outside...to clear inside mode.
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we really have two different camps in this country right now. we have those that believe that this is a nation that is for of and by the people. we have those who believe that this is a nation that is for of and by the government. >> dr. ben carson out in san diego looking like is he gearing up for a presidential run. meantime you have governors
out there. including wisconsin governor scott walker, also looking at it saying, quote: i think the best way to counter something from the past is with something new. americans don't want the worn-out tired views of the past. i wonder what he is talking about. we're back with the panel. juan, it's interesting to see how these dynamics are changing in 2016 2 as republicans meet in san diego with mitt romney looking like he is running and jeb bush looking like you he is running and how that changes the dynamics in the field. >> start your engines gentlemen. start those early brit. this is what is shocking everybody. it's so early and you have these two establishment titans in conflict. i must tell you that among the donor class, people are still in shock over the romney thing. they don't get it. romney is, in fact, a better and more successful fundraiser than jeb bush has ever been. romney's people will remind you that, you know, jeb bush hasn't run a race in more than a dozen years.
but, the fact that romney is serious, i think has sent tremors through the republican establishment and the donor class and meanwhile, separated out from what you heard from carl cameron earlier that in terms of the grass roots there is a great dissatisfaction with both romney and bush. they want somebody is else. so scott walker is of course self-serving somebody new picking up on this obama thing about the new car smell. but the fact ask, scott walker is speaking a a truth for many conservative activists. >> i was out in ohio today, talked to john kasich, he may be considering a run as well, the governor of ohio. >> did he tell you he is going to run? >> he is definitely kicking the tires. we have that piece next week. you know, we did the piece about rick perry. former governor now of texas. you have the list. and we will put up again our full screen head boxes minus paul ryan who just got out. it's quite a possibility. >> i agree, substantially
with what juan just said. however, jeb bush's early maneuvering have sent tremors not only among these folks whose faces we are seeing now but amongst the donor class. the donor class they are not going to give to more than one candidate. jeb bush, mitt romney, chris christie are basically going to appeal to the same class of donors and i think jeb forced mitt and mitt is probably going to force chris christie to move earlier than he planned on it. but, let me say this. i think that the mini failed revolution that we saw in the house of representatives against john boehner is the tip of the iceberg. i think there is a substantial appetite amongst the republican base that votes in primaries for a human being more conservative than the middle of the road represented by romney christie, and jeb. >> speaking to that senator rand paul recently. this is what he said. >> some say if you are a moderate, you will attract
people in the middle. but do you lose some people on the grass roots side that lose their enthusiasm and stay at home? and so that is a debate back and forth. i think the last time around we had less republicans vote in 2012 than voted in 2008. so some have made an argument that we lost some enthusiasm from the grass roots. >> you know, a lot of people emailed, charles, and tweet and text and facebook messaged that we're spending too much time talking 2016 now. but the thing is that these maneuvers are happening now. >> 2016 is almost over. [ laughter ] it was the bush move. it happened almost two years early. bush emerged he obviously is running. we are in the middle of this. this is not that we are looking way out into the future. this is going to get sorted out who gets the staff. who gets the money. who gets the frontrunner
status. i think we were hearing from rand paul about the establishment and, of course people on the right. that's why i think there is going to be a pushto get one of these new young faces governors who are extremely conservative and nonetheless have done stuff. in the real world i think scolt walker is a good example of someone be who took on the government union is hard lay moderate position. he did it well. he sustained about five elections as a result of that that he won against union and democratic money that tri unseat him. i think there is going to be a push for that i think there is a lot to be -- to this argument about old and new faces. it's going to be a real hunger for new. >> do you buy this narrative of the clash of the titans between romney and bush and somebody shoots the gap there? >> yeah. they may also cancel each other out or i do think that romney's prominence in the polls is an example of buyer's remorse. people think, you know, i
wish it had been romney and not obama. however, obama is not running again. so i'm not sure it applies. >> i will say one thing i did get an email today with a poster and i will just put it up very quickly before we go to break. it said send the judge to washington officially are you running? >> i am not running. were. i love my job. >> the rumors are out there. see what happens when you combine accent with heavy snow. mike mike mike mike mike! >>mike mike mike mike mike. hey! he knows! hey! guess what day it is! hey! camel! guess what day it is! >>it's not even wednesday. let it go, phil. if you're a camel, you put up with this all the time. it's what you do. (sigh) if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. ok...
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he later spoke out against the war and promised to bring that experience to the white house as commander in chief. what conservatives did next was shameful. they launched a swift boat ad smearing his war record, trying to drag him down into the mud. a few years later, they tried it again against another democratic nominee, but it hasn't worked. you can keep trying to smear and lie, but after a while, truth will rise again. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. impeach me. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in
washington. let me start tonight with what could be a battle between president obama and the republican congress. the stakes are these. can congress destroy a president's ability to destroy the vital problems facing the country, a broken immigration system, aging and decaying infrastructure? can a partisan house of representatives sabotage the working of the democracy, kill a presidency in broad daylight? uh now to the weapons. the speaker of the house is suing the president trying to eliminate his flexibility in carrying out the signature act of the administration -- the affordable care act. they are asking the courts to put him in an administrative straitjacket. the president has his own threat in the wings. someone leaked and he's planning to issue work permits to millions of people who entered the country illegally. in other words he's planning to take over immigration policy personally placing what's normally a congressional power into his own hands. the war between the president and congress escalates as the hours pass. the question isn't just who will win but what is the fight doing
to the country? i can't think of anyone it makes happy. can you? jonathan capehart is an opinion writer and msnbc contributor. robert costa is a reporter with the washington post. president obama may be writing a major policy offensive on an issue guaranteed to incite the republican party base. here it is. the associated press reports white house officials are making plans to act through executive action before november's midterm elections to grant work permits to potentially millions of immigrants who are in this country illegally allowing them to stay in the united states without threat of deportation according to advocates and lawmakers in touch with the administration. he's throwing down the gauntlet. all right, you don't like affordable care, how about this? i will issue work permits. saying i decide who stays in this country. >> it's a bold move on the president. >> is it legal? constitutional? >> we have to see what he's
going to do. a leaked story isn't about what the president may or may not do. it's not reality until he steps before the american people and says this is what i'm doing and why. immigration reform and the issue is going to start with barack obama. >> what does it say in political terps to the speaker of the house? >> he's getting back at the speaker for not doing immigration reform. he says if the house won't act he will. >> he can get the progressive activists out in 2014. he's sending a signal to them. >> what does it say to the republican right when he says, you think you're the boss? i'm the boss. >> it riles boehner, rile it is republican base. it says to the american people that things are so broken here in washington that i have to do something. it's part of the message from --
>> 40%, 50% of the country. who will buy the message besides the liberal base? >> good question. look, we are basically a 50/50 country. until the president stands up there and says what he's going to do we don't know what the reaction is. it's a dangerous game. we don't know how it will play out until he does it. >> so smart. let me ask about impeachment. the republicans have their foot on the gas. some of the right wingers pushing this. you talked to scalise. at the same time the speaker is not exactly known for calling the shots on capitol hill and is trying to hold it back. republicans in the congress and those running for office have impeachment. now the republican party base wants president obama gone. 57%, a strong majority of republicans in this country want him prosecuted and removed from office. that anger will only grow as he acts alone on immigration. today house speaker john boehner
tried to douse the flames of impeachment which backfired in historic fashion. in the midterms they tried to get rid of bill clinton. here is boehner trying to put water on the fire. >> this whole talk about impeachment is coming from the president's own staff and coming from democrats on capitol hill. why? because they are trying to rally their people to give money and show up in this year's election. we have no plans to impeach the president. no future plans. listen, it's all a scam started by democrats at the white house. >> apparently speaker boehner's own top leadership team didn't get the message. we showed you the new whip, steve scalise refused to take impeachment off the table two days ago. here he is refusing to say where he stands. >> will you consider impeaching
the president? >> you know, this is the first white house? history trying to start the narrative of impeaching the president. we want the president to follow the laws. the president took an oath to faithfully execute the laws. >> impeachment is off the table? >> can t white house wants to talk about impeachment. they are trying to fund-raise off that, too. >> i'm asking you, sir. >> the white house will try to do anything to change the topic from the president's failed agenda. >> chris wallace was mannerly and they wouldn't answer. >> i talked to scalise and asked him three times did he stick by the comments on sunday to chris wallace. he said he did. i said do you refuse to rule out impeaching the president. he wouldn't give me a clear answer. he said at this moment we are not trying to impeach the president. it leave it is door open. >> if the speaker speaks for the house which he doesn't, so i'm setting up a joke that he's calling the shots and the
republican majority says let's impeach the guy. this is real. you hear the people in the back water people talking it up. what michele bachmann talking it up, sarah palin. >> they don't think the boehner lawsuit is enough. >> there are a lot of them. >> i spoke to king. he was talking about impeachment if obama moved on immigration supposedly on work permits he'll move forward. >> here we are, tuesday. they have only a few days before they go home and try to relax somewhere, i guess. the president is saying, okay, sue me which i'm not sure is a cool thing to say. but hi said it. now threatening impeachment, he's saying the number one issue, immigration, i will do on my own and issue work permits. >> he knows how it will play out. >> does he want to fight? >> he's spoiling for a fight and
knows republicans will fight. conservatives won't accept this. they will go at him ahead of the midterms. this is base politics. it will activate the progressives. >> they are already. >> p.t. barnum said if you want a crowd, start a fight. he's trying to have a big fight. >> they have been fighting, chris. >> this ratchets it up. >> i know, but they have been fighting since the debt ceiling craziness in 2011. >> if you give your neighbor a mean stare in the morning you pay for it. that's different from suing the guy. >> a lawsuit prelude to impeachment, i never believed the lawsuit was anything other than a first step -- >> it's not an alternative. >> he's hitting the republicans in the sore spot. he knows this divides the republican ranks. he's going at it ahead of the midterms. >> so where are we going? you're out there watching. >> boehner says --
>> we are not getting anything past congress on immigration. >> nothing. >> nothing. they have decided to screw the guy to use common vernacular so he gets nothing done. just to be fair and clear-minded here, the democrats are exploiting this. look at the money. democratic fundraiser love the impeachment fever. the congressional fund raising arm brought in $2.1 million in online donations over the weekend. the best four-day haul of the current election cycle. a million 24 hours this monday. the white house may not have started the fight, but it is clear they don't want it to go away. josh ernest was asked about boehner's comments that he has no plans to impeach the president. here is the response. >> i suspect there may be members of the republican conference that didn't receive the memo. we have seen comments in recent months from congressman steve king from iowa, congressman ted
yoho from florida, congressman lou barleta, steve stockman from texas. blake farenthold raised the prospect. we have seen kerry bentavolio oh from michigan call it a dream come true. >> that was the manifest from the clown car. steve king and barleta. >> the idea that the dccc and democrats are raising money over impeachment fever, it would be malpractice if they didn't do this. >> explain why the core democrats shell out money because there is an impeachment drive. why does it make you give money? >> it's about embarrassing the president, embarrassing their guy. as you have been saying putting an asterisk next to his name in
the history books. >> besmirching him. >> they have long viewed president obama as under siege by republicans and certainly since republicans took over the house in the midterms then. they will do everything they can to protect their guy, have his back. if they will talk impeachment. >> we all know it. you can have the ability to write comments to columns in the post. your power is unlimited. you write a column. someone has a comment all over the wires. whas to stop the people in the clown car that was mentioned by the white house press secretary? who says they won't make more noise than boehner makes? and 57% of people agree with the clown car. >> it's a strategy to run
against steve king, taking a few of the right wing congressmen and trying to run a whole midterm campaign strategy. >> that's why they have a voice. when he made the comments -- >> he's a birther. >> that wasn't this week. that was last year at a town hall meeting. august of 2013. >> do you think it's possible to impeach someone who's not in the country legally? >> that's logical. you're thinking logically. a lot of them have never been logical. your question is a fair one. >> do you want to have the kids in school? grandkids, great grandkids. they want to see pictures of the president and george w. bush and then the next republican
president. they don't want obama on the list. they don't want him there. >> they don't want him on the list of american presidents? who's they? >> the haters who want him out of office, to say he wasn't here legally, birthers, people that don't want him passing anything. they want to say he was a complete and utter failure because they can't stand that he's president. thank you jonathan capehart. i appreciate the opportunity to tutor guests. coming up, joni ernst, the hog castrater from iowa thinks states can nullify federal law. the idea was nullified by the civil war. democrats hope they have found another todd aiken in the pen, so to speak. and new audio of nixon. agreeing to give teddy kennedy secret service protection until the 1972 presidential election was over. after that he said, if he gets
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i'm joni ernst. i grew up castrating hogs on an iowa farm. so when i get to washington i can cut pork. >> that was the ad that launched a political career for the nomination to u.s. senate seat in iowa. in 2014 republican party leaders have been intent to avoid the 2010 and 2012 races when extreme candidates like christine o'donnell and sharon angle cost winnable seats not to mention todd aiken and richard murdock whose comments about women's reproductive systems led to them being known as the rape candidates. ernst military career and folksy background was supposed to
inoculate her but the longer it goes on the less main stream she seems. she's open to impeaching president obama and called him a dictator before walking it back. she cosponsored a personhood amendment to the iowa constitution to give human embryos full rights at conception. she told the des moines register she has reason to believe there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. new video shows she believes states can nullify federal law. >> you know we have talked about this at the state legislature before, nullification. bottom line is, as a u.s. senator, why should we be passing laws that the states are considering nullifying? i mean that is -- that's, bottom line, is our legislators at the federal level should not be passing those laws. and we are right. that's right in that aspect is
that we have gone 200-plus years of federal legislators going against the tenth amendment and states rights. we are way overstepping bounds as federal legislators. so, bottom line, no, we should not be passing laws as federal legislators, senators or congressmen that the states would even consider nullifying. bottom line. >> in that video she references the tenth amendment which says generally powers not specifically delegated to the federal government are reserved to the state. that's a popular amendment on the far right. in iowa democrats hope republicans may have another sharon angle or todd aiken. joining me is msnbc analyst joan walsh and republican strategist john braybender. we reached out for her campaign's reaction and got this reaction from a campaign spokesperson. bruce b are raley is so
desperate that he's once again waging a dirty and false campaign. joni has not and does not endorse or support nullification. she said in a couple of references in the tape that she does believe states can nullify a federal law. now she's put out the word that her opponent leaked it when we have it on tape. what do we make of her position on nullifications which was a reason for the civil war? the south believed they could say state by state, south carolina, georgia, the federal government pass as law on slavely for example they could ignore it, nullify it. >> the whole question in a sense is a clay citiness of washington. we'll have the conversation. what does she mean about nullification. >> what do you think? >> i don't know. >> does the word mean something? >> the context shefts saying to people in iowa was -- >> you're not going to do this. >> no, no. >> the word has a particularly
historic meaning. according to the dictionary it's the action of a state impeding or attempting to prevent the operation and endorsement within its territory of a law of the united states. it has a particular meaning but ernst wasn't specifically referring to race. nullification has racial overtones because it was over the issue of slavery and nullification of anti-slavery laws in the civil war. >> you want to get into constitutional law of what she was saying about nullification. the truth is in a common sense way she was saying, you know what, in iowa we shouldn't have to li by everything they do in washington. >> it's the federal government. >> when they do something stupid and know nobody wants to live by it they shouldn't do it. >> you're saying she's saying something different. >> i'm not. >> john, you just said something completely common sense. i'm a democrat. you're a republican. you put it in a clear way. that's great. you are entitled to say that. when you leap out and start talk thing about nullification you either know what you are doing
or you're stupid and you don't. nullification has a particular meaning. states rights has a connotation. nullification came back into vogue under barack obama when states started saying they were nullifying obamacare. do you know what happened? this is hilarious. the heritage foundation, of all places, had to say, hey, guys, stop calling it nullification. we know you like that word. but that's unconstitutional. states can't nullify federal law. she may know what she's doing. she's using a buzz word. she's getting a thrill from it. now she's been caught. you say we are not allowed what she meant. you're off, john. >> there is every right -- >> is she deceiving voters saying the states can nullify federal law. >> i don't think that was the conte context. you can ask her anything she wants but she has the right to say what she wants. you do not have the right to put in context how she said it. that's the part i have a problem
with. your saying here's what she meant. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> this is what americans mean by nullification. in kin's great speech he said i have a dream. he spoke of nullification saying i have a dream that one day down in alabama with its vicious raci racists, with its governor having the lips dripping tt words of interposition and nullification, one day little black boys and girls will join hands with white boys and girls assisters and brothers. that's the most famous reference to nullification there is. how can you say people in iowa haven't heard the speech? >> it wasn't in that context. if i said four score, i'm not talking 20 years these days. >> do you want me to play it again? >> this is what happens in washington? we take single words that make perfect sense and parse them and try to make it a code word. i don't believe she was saying
it. >> she said it to the iowa state and freedom coalition in a particular context she used the word more than one time, john. she's created a problem for herself. she made it look to some people like maybe she's too far right for iowa. which voted for barack obama twice, i might add. >> do you think she's stupid? >> no. >> you said in your first opening statement that either she said this as a code word or she's stupid. it's easy for me to take it out of context. i don't believe you were calling her stupid. >> thank you. >> that's what happens in washington politics. >> i will -- >> you are defending her, so -- >> let me go further. we do the same thing with barack obama sometimes, too. he'll say something that we are going to jump over it. i will give you a good example. when he said the thing that they didn't build it. if you look up the whole statement in context it meant more than that. >> thank you.
two years later. >> i have to do something. let's show it again, what she said and let the viewers decide what she was trying to say. she went into detail, repeating herself, making it clear to a conservative targeted audience what she thought of federal law. watch. >> you know we have talked about this at the state legislature before, nullification. bottom line is, as a u.s. senator, why should we be passing laws that the states are considering nullifying? i mean that is -- that's, bottom line, is our legislators at the federal level should not be passing those laws. and we are right. that's right in that aspect is that we have gone 200-plus years of federal legislators going against the tenth amendment and states rights. we are way overstepping bounds
as federal legislators. so, bottom line, no, we should not be passing laws as federal legislators, senators or congressmen that the states would even consider nullifying. bottom line. >> what do you think she meant? >> that washington is too powerful and they think they can pass whatever they want and every state has to abide by it like it or not and the states should have more voice. >> isn't that true? >> you are getting into the constitutional law. i understand that. >> what about common sense? do you think a state like iowa can ignore federal law? >> i think they are very unhappy. >> she said nullify. >> you're caught up in the word nullify. the average iowa family is caught up with her saying, you know, i don't have to put up with -- >> the word comes up for a reason, john. if you are talking to the typical iowa family, i don't know. why even use that word?
>> around the iowa table and everywhere they are having the discussion. >> maybe now. >> they are having a word about why is washington the way it is and why can't it have more common sense like iowa. >> you're actually making more of a case that it was a code. it's a word she doesn't need unless she's trying to ring bells like states' rights as well. there is something off in what she said. >> i'm telling you as a media consultant i don't believe it was a planned code word. it was a phrase she used and now the democrat is trying to make something out of it. >> she doesn't know the history of the precivil fight war over slavery and how the states tried to fight it by saying they had the right to nullify. anybody familiar with the heart ache of 600,000 men dead in a war remembers why we fought it. the states have a right to nullify laws passed by congress. to not know the word is to be short-handed when it comes to talking about national affairs. >> you are right to give her a
pass on that. you're right. >> thank you, john walsh. i don't know if i would vote for someone who didn't know history. you have two deuces in your hand. look what you have done with it. coming up, funny or die.com's impression of "hardball" and me canadian style. that's next. >> frankly like most people i know nothing about canada except one time i saw the leafs play the flyers. at the same time i don't think the canadians on television are good. they're a little bit too passive and quiet. ♪
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>> you're watching hard duces tecum ball canada on msnbc canada. as we expand to the canadian market we begin to discuss all things canadian and get to the bottom of it. frankly like most people i know nothing about canada except one time i saw the leafs play the flyers. at the same time i don't think the canadian news personalities on television are good. they are too passive and quiet. we'll go to our panel to help us with what the canadian thing is about. where do you come down on arcade fire? >> i wish they went back to the arcade and had no survivors. >> i'm not sure i agree. that's a good point. we are joined by kathleen turner. i didn't know you were canadian? >> i'm william shatner. i am canadian. >> you're tremendous, kathleen turner. especially in her prime. she was beautiful. tell me something, bill. $5 flight from logan to lax. that's the best you could do at price line? >> i don't personally set the prices. >> maybe ukt get scotty on it
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they are preventing investigators from continuing their work. and israel carried out an intense round of strikes on gaza. at least a hundred people were killed. back to "hardball." >> welcome back to "hardball." nixon's decision to install a secret taping system within the white house sealed his fate as the first president in u.s. history to resign after his own recordings implicated him in the water gate cover-up. the tapes recorded between 1971 and 1973 were a windfall for his attorneys with nearly 4,000 hours of unedited audio tape now in the public record. the tapes represent the largest record of primary source material of any u.s. president in american history. while the process of reviewing and transcribing the recordings presented a formidable challenge for the most devoted academics, douglas brinkley and luke nikter did it for a book called "the
nixon tapes" jst out today. a play by play account of the most shocking events of the presidency. at rice university, douglas brinkley. let's get to it. in 1972 nixon and his staff debated whether to give ted kennedy secret service protection during the election. he was a top nixon critic at a time. nixon decided to go ahead and grant temporary secret service protection for two reasons. he said he didn't want to be responsible if there was an attempt on kennedy's life and wanted his agents out there tailing kennedy. it was nixon at his most cut throat. >> you understand what the problem is if the son of a [ bleep ] gets shot. they'll say we didn't furnish it. so you just buy his insurance. then after the election, he doesn't get a [ bleep ] thing.
if he gets shot, it's too damn bad. >> all right. >> do it on the basis though that the secret service -- do you have anybody in the secret service that you can get to -- >> yeah. >> do you have anybody to plant. >> yeah. >> we've got receive. >> plant one. plant two guys on him. that could be useful. >> is it really that bad? with nixon in moments like this you have to say, yes, it is that bad. he doesn't give a damn -- his word -- whether kennedy is shot or not. this is rough stuff. >> it's very rough stuff. he really had it out for ted kennedy. he wanted to get a secret service agent as his plant to feed him tactical information about what kennedy was doing. at one point of that excerpt president says don't get sky rolly, a legitimate guy. we have to get a stooge for us. he documents throughout the
tapes, goes after kennedy's drinking, womanizing and all the rest. he wants to destroy kennedy. >> i remember he had a nonofficial agent chasing him off to hawaii and coming back emp ti-handed which wasn't popular with nixon. in late 1972, here is something nice. joe biden was elected senator from delaware when his wife and daughter were killed in aer car accident. it was a devastating loss for the 30-year-old senator elect later sworn in at the bedside of his injured son in a delaware hospital. the day after that accident, nixon called to console biden. let's listen to the phone conversation. >> hello, mr. president, how are you? >> senator, i know this is a very tragic day for you. i want you to know that all of us here at the white house are thinking about you and praying for you and also for your two children. >> i appreciate that very much. >> but the main point is you can remember that she was there when you won a great victory. you enjoyed it together.
i'm sure she'll be watching you from now on. good luck to you. >> thank you very much, mr. president. >> there's nixon at his strangest. he did it when he resigned, compared the loss of the presidency to the loss of a daughter. saying the best moment joe biden and his wife shared was winning a senate seat. something about the supremacy with which he views politics in life. >> it does show the more human side of nixon when you listen to that on the call to joe biden. nixon constantly liked other politicians. as much as he wanted to destroy them. he was the ultimate "hardball" blood sport political pro. won two huge elections, 68 and 72. he was willing to break the law. willing to abuse power. that's why he's such a disturbing figure.
how he dealt with the middle east and the like. when it comes to most of the time he just goes after people with a tomahawk. he's a bully. >> here is one of his favorite fascinations, jfk. here is what he had to say here about jack kennedy. his rivalry was through the 50s and 60s. influenced nixon well after the assassination of kennedy. he discusses the public's favorable perception of kennedy which he called with some envy the kennedy mythology. let's listen. >> kennedy was cold, impersonal. he treated his staff like dogs, particularly his secretaries and the others. he was not a beat man. he didn't read, all these other things. his staff created the impression of warm, sweet and nice to people, reads lots of books, a
philosopher. that was a pure p creation of mythology. we have created no mythology. >> what do you make of that? i interviewed the kennedy staff and the women working. some may have been involved with him intimately because of the reputation. i have to tell you they loved working at the white house. they loved him bopping around saying hello, a relaxed guy. where did nixon get that kennedy was mean to the staff? i don't know the story. >> jealousy. he was jealous of kennedy's mystique. he goes further. kennedy wrote "profiles of courage." nixon said, i want people to see i'm a man of guts. kissinger said, well, you have confidence. maybe we could market that. nixon said, nobody wants competence. we want courage, guts. kennedy got that out there, the camelot mystique is something he wanted. as you documented on kennedy and nixon they were friends for a
time but there was a jealousy nixon harbored. >> this is your pub day for the book. what do you think the average person who loves history, politics will find here? >> you're like a fly on the wall in history. you are in the oval office. nixon tried to bug everything. he bugged cam davis. we have piled up so many transcripts of this. we boiled it down to ones i thought were fair and judicious. historically significant. nixon at his best is dealing with china, with the abm, with salt, but the personal weirdness of nixon, it's creepy. it is a fascinating window into the 1970s in american culture. >> i think there are only two presidents in our lifetime who were deeply interesting people. kennedy on the brighter side and nixon on the dark side. they are different faces of america. authentically america, disturbing but us. thank you. good luck with your new book,
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the political fight over raising the minimum wage often seems to take an academic bent here in washington. congressional budget office number numbers. think tank projections. for those trying to get but it's a daily struggle. that's why a group of progressive activists recently challenged politicians and the
public to live for a week on the wage of an average minimum worker who makes $7.25 an hour. most goes to rent and taxes which leaves you with $77 for everything from food to transportation and obvious expenses. one person who took up that challenge was tedstrickland. for a week i walked as much as i possibly could to avoid transportation, skipped meals to save money and i ate smaller and lesser meals. i turned to bread, peanut butter, bananas, and ba loathe na. that's why i ate lunch from the mcdonald's dollar menu. governor strickland is with me right now. you started on what day of the
week? >> i started on a sunday. >> and you started to try to live on about ten buck as day. >> yeah, yeah, about ten bucks a day. the average wage worker as you said doesn't make a lot. $77 a week. you try to stretch that over a period of several days. chris, it affects every decision you make throughout your life. throughout the day you're constantly thinking can i do this. i was going to an appointment, i was a little late and i found myself trying to hail a cab and then i realized, wait a minute, i can't do that. i don't have money to spend on a cap, so i walked. it just perm yalts e'er part of your life and it keeps you from living without constantly evaluating what you can and cannot do in terms of your resources. >> and you weren't that healthy doing it either. >> no. i ate a lot of bologna. i like bologna. i ate a lot of cheap cheese.
>> that's one person who likes bologna. >> i ate bread and what's on the mcdonald's menu. >> you basically ate what my doctor told me not the eat. >> exactly. healthy food costs more. >> that's why when i was growing up as a small kid they had food deserts. >> absolutely. and in some communities the only place a person can get food is at a place that charge as whole lot because it's a convenience store. supermarkets aren't available. so people find themselves living a kind of life -- and, chris, this is the point. living a kind of lifestyle that i think many people up on capitol hill have never experienced and cannot even really imagine. >> if you're debating a conservative, maybe a liberal will be for minimum wage out of compassion, but a conservative will say we don't want to ichb ter view. but my argument i want to make in a few minutes after you're
gone, better to have these people working and on rating within the market, responding to better wages than it is waiting around for the check to arrive. >> yes, but when a person works, they ought to be paid. and when a perch works full time, they ought not to -- >> where do you think it ought to be? they just did 15 bucks in seattle. it sounds like a lot of money, but it isn't. it's $600 a week. after you take out taxes and rent, we did the math here. you don't have much cash. >> no, you don't have much cash. the president is supporting a $10.10 minimum wage. i can support that or $10.15. san francisco is going to have it on the ballot to bring it up to $15. not every community is alike and in some communities the cost of living is higher obviously. but $10.10 for a person who works full time seems like a much fayer wage. the minimum wage has not been
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