we ll see. thank to you phillip, zerlina, john. thank you for being with us. all in with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on all in. i don t want to talk about pardons for michael flynn yet. a new york times bombshell. can you say unequivocally no one here has discussed pardons in this case? the president s lawyer reportedly floated pardons for flynn and plfrt before they were charged. i ve always found paul manafort to be a very decent man. tonight it the reporter who broke the story and what this means for the obstruction case against the president. then, did the special counsel just file evidence of trump campaign collusion with russia? that s what he said. that s what i said. that s obviously what our position is. plus, the president announces the firing of the v.a. secretary on twitter. and apple ceo tim cook on mark zuckerberg s current
predicament. i wouldn t be in this situation. okay. more from kara swisher and my exclusive interview whe
Watergate hearings, one of the elements of obstruction against richard nixon was the firing of the special prosecutor. if donald trump discussed with members of his cabinet firing robert mueller, could just discussing the idea of firing the special prosecutor be an element of obstruction? yes. the elements of the public attacks to undermine the special prosecutor. to me that s as serious and may be more serious than actually firing him. firing him would be out in the open. but all of these attacks to make it look like robert mueller is not doing a good job, that he s off on a witch hunt and politically motivated and i want to compare it to something that happened during watergate, the press officer for watergate felt that in order for the american people to believe that what we were doing was honest and that we were not out for any political purposes, that the public had to know us and he actually arranged for the trial team lawyers to have interviews
Pretty remarkable. what do you think, malcolm. i think it s remarkable in the fact that he actually traded on his past links to russian military intelligence that that s what his job was in the past. there s no way you could be running around this sphere of influence within moscow dealing with oleg deripaska, yanukovych, all these big player lose are very close to putin and not have this particular springing between pulled in one way or the other. right. natasha and malcolm, thank you. thanks, chris. and another trump cabinet firing announced on twitter. the member of trump world taking his place right after this.
All these big player lose are very close to putin and not have this particular springing between pulled in one way or the other. right. natasha and malcolm, thank you. thanks, chris. and another trump cabinet firing announced on twitter. the member of trump world taking his place right after this.