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syrian border. and then slipping into isis-controlled territory in syria on january 8th. the same day her husband shot a police officer in the south of paris. now the search is on for her. plus, according to "ap," up to six others linked to the terror cell including a man who was seen driving her car. also today, a new video has emerged showing the grocery store gunman pledging allegiance to isis. all of this comes as a group claiming to be aligned with isis hacked into the twitter and youtube accounts for u.s. central command. posting pro-isis messages. the pentagon says it was not a security threat and that no classified information was revealed. but a day after over a million
people rallied in paris, that city is still on edge and police are flooding the streets looking for other potential terrorists. joining me now is marcadis, a former department of defense counterterrorism analyst, and evan coleman, nbc news terrorism analyst. thank you, both for being here. >> thanks reverend. >> with the widow escaping into syria, are authorities worried that others in the cell will do the same? >> right, oh, splut ly absolutely. the authorities french authorities named, essentially they're unnamed. we don't know who they are, what their capabilities or who they they are. at this point, when you notice a press release from the french authorities that doesn't provide detail, that speaks to something because we assume that the french don't necessarily know who they're looking for, of course. and it's maybe more of a signal
to other law enforcement organizations throughout the world that hey, these people are alive and well as far as we know. we don't know if they're operatives, we don't know if they're in a support network type role. and it's quite possible at this point they could be trying to flee the country. >> evan, we don't know who they are, but do we have a sense of how large this paris terror cell could be? >> no, but even before the announcement by french authorities we already had an idea there was some support infrastructure, a support cell that must have existed because, of course, you have the video of mr. coulibaly. the video has been edited. it shows the end of the hostage siege. someone edited this video of mr. coulibaly was already dead. somebody uploaded the video. the video was in french. it was not issued by isis but somebody else who speaks french. thus, there's a very strong conclusion there that there's somebody left in france who had access to this video who is in contact with mr. coulibaly and
who decided to upload this and let's not forget mr. coulibaly in the video talks about how he provided the kouachi brothers several thousand euros to carry out their plan. where did he get that money from? did he have that money on his own or get it from somebody else? >> was he a conduit for something? >> right. >> jim, the widow who is now in syria, hayat boumeddiene, has spoken many times we've come to learn to the widow of one of the magazine attackers. one report says "there was constant and sustained communication, according to paris' "chief prosecutor who said the two women spoke on the phone more than 500 times last year." does this speak to how tight-knit and serious this cell might have been? >> yes, reverend al that's a great point. what it speaks to is operational security and terrorist cells whether they're just a few people in paris or whether it's a large international
organization like al qaeda in the arabian peninsula or al qaeda core in afghanistan, pakistan puts a high premium on the idea of maintaining operational security. communications are tightly controlled between cell members. in this case the two wives could have been used as surrogates so there was no direct telephonic or e-mail link between members of the actual cell that law enforcement authorities could have picked up on. and especially because the members of this cell had criminal records, and had done time in jail. so they would have -- that would have been highly suspicious. and so by using the wives who had no criminal records, so as far as we know you know details pending, that speaks to a level of remaining anonymous. to law enforcement authorities. >> evan, two attackers appear linked to isis while the other two cited al qaeda in yemen. here's what a senior cia veteran said. "this is a distinction without a
difference. the super bosses may be wrapped up in these ideological fights but the followers really are not." how much does that distinction matter? >> no offense to the person who said that. this is a person who hasn't been reading isis propaganda. this message about the fight between isis and al qaeda or aqap is not an issue that is simply percolating between the top leaders of the organization. this is something that's reaching even english-speaking members of this group. the last english-speaking mass inging magazine put out by isis there were ten pages of the magazine dedicated to saying terribly nasty things about al qaeda, aqap, and all of their senior leaders. there's no doubt that almost everyone in these organizations understand they don't like each other. anyone that doesn't understand that distinction is not paying attention to any of their propaganda whether it's in arabic arabic, whether it's in english, whether it's in french. that point is absolutely clear. >> jim, let me go to this
hacking of two social media sites, u.s. central command. even if no classified information was revealed could this still inspire other attack attackers to take action? >> oh well sure. any time anybody does something as significant as hacking into a large and well-known u.s. military command, you never know who's going to be inspired by it. but i think the important point that we really have to draw from it is the individuals who claimed to do it claimed to have, be linked to isis. at this point, this is sort of the other side of the koibcoin that evan was just talking about. we don't know who these guys are. we don't know exactly what their highest end cape nltabilityies are. so yes, they had initial success. by claiming an affiliation to a larger terrorist organization, which to be clear, they may not have at all, but by claiming that affiliation, that allows them to pick up more recruit ss, picked up by media.
we're talking about them now. that provides the opportunity for more money and more prestige down the line. >> i want to turn to violence in nigeria, evan. the terror group boko haram massacred 2,000 people in a village last week. and there are reports that they're now using 10-year-old girls as suicide bombers. "reuters" reports, "two suspected child suicide bombers blew themselves up in a market in northeast nigeria on sunday. the second apparent attack in two days using young girls strapped with explosives." >> yeah -- >> this is horrific. we're not hearing a lot about this. this unbelievable. >> it's a level of barbism that even isis as extreme as they are, it's difficult to imagine isis using child suicide bombers. unfortunately part of the problem is because there's been so much focus on what's happening in france, for good reason unfortunately we're
losing sight of other things going on. from isis' perspective, if you ask them wloshtshether or not using a 10-year-old as a suicide bomber is okay. they don't subscribe to any ideology other than death. >> jim, where's the world global outreach here? 2,000 people. little girls strapped and used as suicide bombers that don't even know they have the bomb on. absolutely the world has to be outraged with france but shouldn't the world be just as outrage ed outraged at what's going on in nigeria? >> rerndthis is the same group that
kidnapped small schoolgirls and still holding them as far as we know. this is an unbelievable level of barbarism. whether it's boko haram, isis aqap whether it's al qaeda. what we don't do in this country is have a serious conversation about how we're going to stop radical asian in countries that have ungoverned territories. how do we do things like promote education, promote democratic institutions promote viable political parties? yes, we have a hard security piece. but in the long term we also need to sustain our fight against terrorism in a lot of these soft power tools that we can use to address the problem at the core. because if we're just usinge inging bombs and guns and there's a time and place for that because there are evil people in the world who deserve to be met with that kind of force we also have to address the root causes and no matter where in the world we're talking about, that's what we should do and when we're outraged about all of these things, that's where we have to
begin to address a lot of our energy. >> i'm going to have to leave there. that is clearly what i'm saying. we cannot have selective outrage. what has happened in france is despicable. and what is happening in nigeria is equally despicable. 2,000 lives, little girls. whether it is in france whether it is in nigeria, the world must respond with the same passion. had we done that with bin laden when he first struck in kenya, maybe he wouldn't have got to the united states. we should stop terrorism and savagery wherever we find it oers it might find us. jim arkadis and evan kohlmann, thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks, reverand al. president obama's fight for fairness is having a rather odd effect on republicans. and a story we told you about, two new mexico police
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challenge of our time. >> fighting in inging inequality. a pillar of the obama presidency. he ran on it and he won on it. vast majorities are behind this fight. now we're seeing something funny happen on the right. here's the "washington post" headline today. "both parties agree economic mobility will be a defining theme of 2016 campaign." the polls highlights marco rubio and rand paul trying to join the conversation on fairness. jeb bush's new pac is talking about the difficulty of achieving the american dream and focusing on middle class wage stagnation. and shared prosperity. and even mr. 47%, himself, mitt romney says if he runs again, one of the issues he'd like to address is poverty. now, i applaud this idea but
the question is do you really believe it? after decades of pushing tax cuts for the rich and trickle-down economics, will anyone take this seriously? joining me now are jared bernstein and joan walsh. thank you both for being here. >> thanks rev. >> thank you, rev. >> joan, mitt romney wants to talk about poverty and jeb bush is fighting for fairness? are we in the twilight zone? >> we've got these two plutocrats who now want to fight each other for who's going it be the president of the 1%, talking about fairness. i think it's really unfair rev, because what you're see in the republican party now is a recognition that yes, poverty is a problem, income equality is a problem, stagnating wages is a problem. they've blocked everything this president has tried to do. >> everything. >> they will not give him an increase in the minimum wage they passed a smaller stimulus than he wanted. they will not give him the infrastructure spending he wants. they will not give him an immigration bill.
immigration reform is really important to wages because when we legalize people or give them some legal foot hold in this country, they have a little bit more of standing to push back when they're being treated unfairly. and so they've fought his appointments to the national relations labor board. they've fought everything they can do something about stagnating wages. >> when you raise these examples, jared, let me ask you, what policies can president obama work on to narrow the income gap? specific policies. >> interestingly, he's done a fair bit already even without congress. deferred deportations fits right into joan's point about immigration. he's raised the minimum wage for federal contractors. there are at least three things that would be on the agenda that have had some little bit of bipartisan agreement. one is infrastructure investment. the other, i'm blocking on the other one right now. i'll get to it in a second. but the point is that the president has some nominal support for these ideas, but he
hasn't had the kind of support that congress really needs to get behind him. and that's what's been missing. >> joan the -- i mentioned the "washington post" piece that said republicans won't engage on economic mobility. it quoted a republican strategist. republican strategist who said "you talk to any pollster on the democratic side or the republican side they're in complete agreement on the idea that there has to be an economic populous message." "then it comes down to are there credible solutions and is there a credible candidate? will we be credible solutions from the gop? who do democrats need to do to stay ahead on this issue, joan? >> i think the democrats can stay ahead rather easily reverend al. the republican party, i want to give paul ryean credit to pay attention to the issues.
their solutions are warmed over tax credits, warmed over empowerment zones. these ideas going back to jack kemp that were tried, you know, and maybe tried with very good intentions but really didn't move the needle on unemployment and particularly inner city unemployment. so, you know i'm not saying the democrats have been perfect on this issue, but they are definitely putting a lot more meat on the bones of fairness strategy and a raise the wages strategy. >> let me ask -- go ahead jared. >> first of all, let any just say that the ideas that have had some suggestion of some bipartisan movement, i mentioned infrastructure, there's also an increase in the eitc for childless workers. that's a tax credit for low-income workers. and some sounds that universal pre-k, quality pre-k for kids could be on the agenda. we've not seen real movement toward them. look, i want to echo something you guys is been talking about. it's one thing to say i feel your pain, vis-a-vis unequalinequality and mobility. remember, that was something mitt romney said he didn't want to talk about. now we have jeb bush saying i'm
happy to talk about it. it's a very different thing to articulate the policy agenda. and so far all that i've heard from these republicans is our agenda is growth it's more growth, how do we get that growth? we try to make life more advantageous for those at the top. so it's really just a change in the rhetoric at least that's what it sounds like to me with trickle down at the end of the road. >> that's the problem because you can't say i feel your pain when i don't feel that you have the capacity to feel my pain. the "washington post" profiled a recent focus group in denver that was asked about potential 2016 candidates. they had mixed opinions on jeb bush and hillary clinton. but people on both sides of the aisle had great things to say about elizabeth warren. they called her sincere, knowledgeable, capable, and she was a popular choice as a next door neighbor. she's best known, of course for talking about fairness.
listen to this. >> we believe that no one should work full time and still live in poverty. that means raising the minimum wage and we will fight for it. the stock market and gdp continue to go up while families across this country are getting squeezed harder and harder. so the way i see this is we can whine about it we can whimper about it or we can fight back. i'm fighting back. i'm ready to fight back. are you ready to fight back on this? >> why is it so appealing, joan? >> you know i saw her speak last week rev at the raising wages conference that the afl-cio put on. she's gotten so much better. i'm not critiqueing her like a theater critic but her delivery changed. i saw her bring people in the crowd to tears when she talked about her mother.
after her father lost her job, her mother puts on her best dress and high heels is crying and goes to sears and gets minimum wage job which at that point was high enough to support a family. >> let me ask you, then, if she's gotten better and that effective, is there no scenario where she would run? i mean does no really mean no? give me a scenario that you think would possibly make her enter the race. >> i really don't think she would run if hillary clinton rin runs. she's trying to push hillary clinton toward a more progressive stance. i really believe, we talked about this before, i belief she want wants to be a powerhouse in the senate and has the ted kennedy seat, a position of power in the community. i don't see her wanting to but if clinton didn't run, all bets are off. >> i mean, look senator warren is really steering the debate in directions that it needs to go. and that's a tremendous contribution so far. i'll also say this, what i heard in the comments you just played was basically getting on offense, and a lot of us are
really just tired of playing defense. tired of jutst sitting here and explaining why trickle-down supply side tax cuts don't work. what she's suggesting we do now is come up with a set of ideas that actively try to reconnect, that create the policy agenda that can reconnect middle class prosperity to overall economic growth. now, as i said the other side says, well it's just all about overall economic growth. that's obviously necessary but it's not sufficient. what i hear liz warren saying is let's create that policy architecture, that connective tissue that will raise the middle class. >> joan walsh and jared bernstein, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead, george zimmerman's new run-in with the law. we'll tell you what he was arrested for and whether he could finally go to prison. also why the trees are always the right height when it comes to mitt romney and the white house. stay with us. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase.
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police video, and we warn you, the video is graphic. >> the video that follows is too disturbing to show. as press -- as police release a dog on the man's body. the lawyer for one of the officers called the charges not justified. the lawyer for the other says
they're a shame. you know, much of the same thing there from both lawyers. i guess have different takes on this murder charge. faith, let's start with you. >> well, when you look at this case, look at the context of what's been going on with the albuquerque police keydepartment. this is one of the police departments the justice department decided to investigate because of the allegations of excessive use of force by the police. last year, rev, in april, the justice department released its findings of this police department. it said that they did use excessive force, and sometimes fatal force all too often and that there was a complete lack of training among the police force in terms of when these officers were deciding to use deadly force. in this case the prosecutor decided not to go before a grand jury. she decided to file an information, just like what angela corey did down in florida with the george zimmerman case and trayvon martin. skip the grand jury altogether. decide to file information based on this video and their investigation, they decided that murder charges were warranted.
and i'm sure in the backdrop of what happened in new york with the eric garner case and there being video, and still no true bill no indictment in the case the prosecutor decided the best move was for her to move forward on her own. >> but ken, you think this is more of a cop-out? >> well there's another take to this too. everything that she just said was correct, faith is correct, however, another way to look at this is that most of the time when a prosecutor presents a case to the grand jury there is an indictment. and, in fact, if there is not an indictment, it's usually because the prosecutor led the grand jury to not indicting. so in this instance instead of taking responsibility and bringing it to the grand jury and getting an indictment, another way to look at it is the prosecutor did an open charge and it goes now before a judge in a special hearing, and at the hearing, the judge now has the responsibility to find whether there's probable cause or not to charge the officers and then lay it over for trial. so if this judge decides there's
not probable cause, there will be no further trial for these officers. so that is a possibility in this case. there may not be a trial depending on what happens at this hearing. >> all right. we will stay on top of this. i assure you. now to a new arrest of george zimmerman. police arrested him late friday night and charged him with aggravated assault for allegedly throwing a wine bottle at his girlfriend. he's now out of jail on bond. in 2013 zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter in the death of trayvon martin. since then he's dealt with police several times. in november 2013 his then-girlfriend said he pointed a gun in her face smashed her coffee table, and pushed her out of the house. no charges were filed. a few months earlier, his ex-wife said he threatened her with a gun and said he punched her father. no charges were filed.
this weekend, zimmerman's lawyer was asked why his client keeps having run-ins with police. >> i don't like to speculate about emotional things either. it's clear he hasn't been very lucky with the ladies the last few months. but beyond that no i don't have a comment. >> zimmerman filed a defamation suit against nbc news, but a judge dismissed that claim last summer. he has since appealed the decision. ken, your reaction? >> well my reaction first of all, is disgust. you know after three arrests for domestic violence what we get from mr. don west is a joke? you know thousands of women are killed or beaten or badly injured in domestic violence cases in this country and to make a joke about a third arrest for a client not being lucky with the ladies i find that offensive and maybe mr. west should look into another line of work. as for mr. zimmerman, this is now the third time he's been arrested. and we're going to see if the process plays out this time and
if, in fact there's going to be a trial to determine whether or not he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. >> faith, it seems in all of these incidents it deals with some violence. >> right. >> and guns. >> well i mean listen george zimmerman keeps having to defend himself from women and children apparently. this is actually the fourth domestic violence case against him and he has killed a teenager. so this is someone who's had repeated contacts with the law. he has a pattern. and patterns about people don't lie. unfortunately, you know, this is one of those cases where this young woman who's involved has already said she doesn't want to go forward or press any charges but when the police stopped her, she was so distraught she did give a statement and they did take her statement. she told what happened. george zimmerman has already said she's the one that threw the wine bottle at him. it was the other way around. he is always having to defend himself against these women who apparently, according to him, keep making up things to try to
get him in trouble. >> so again, if the young lady says ken, that she doesn't want to go forward, will these charges be dropped as we've seen before? >> well, that's a very -- >> i just need a quick answer. >> the quick answer is no. if the victim doesn't want to go forward and the state can't get her to go forward, they're not going it haveto have a case and the charges will be dropped again. >> ken and faith, thanks for your time tonight. straight ahead, is it time to break out the binders full of women again? mitt romney is talking about running for president. plus an amazing story developing. could general petraeus be facing criminal charges tonight? and common's file a golden globe speech on why summer is bigger than a movie. "conversation nation" is next.
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democratic strategist, taradowdell. thank you, all, for being here. >> thanks for r having us rev. >> are the trees the right height in 2016? yes, mitt romney is back in the headlines for a possible third run for president. romney was in new york and told a small group of donors "people ask if i really want to be president." "yeah, i want to be president." but just six months ago, he was saying this. >> i'm not running for president. i said that so many times. as you know we just had this conference here in park city utah. i brought a number of the 2016 contenders here to meet with my fund-raisers. had i been running, i wouldn't be doing that. >> krystal, do you think he'll get in and what happens if he does? >> well, first of all, i don't know that it's exactly breaking news that mitt romney wants to be president. i think mitt romney has always wanted to be president. i think mitt romney always will want to be president. but that's a different question from whether he actually gets in this race. it's hard for me to imagine with
as crowded as the field looks to be with likely jeb bush with potentially chris christie with potentially scott walker that he would actually want to get in and lose again. let's say he does. let's game it out. i think that this primary is even more challenging for him to get through than the last one that he was barely able to survive with people like newt gingrich and rick santorum who aren't exactly the a-list contenders. so that's why i think it's hard to imagine him subjecting himself to that again. >> but the problem that i'm hearing some people say is that he really does not want to see jeb bush be out there. they've got a little -- little disagreement between the two. >> well a lot of things i don't want as well but sometimes i don't get everything i want as well, reverend. look, for me it's like a stray cat just constantly coming back and clawing at the window. we don't want you. i'm sorry. we told you twice we don't want you, but he has to keep on
coming back. it's no secret that the republican party doesn't want a replay of 2012 doesn't want a bunch of crazy candidates, right? they do want to throw their weight behind candidates who are somewhat more conservative and maybe more conventional. but they're not going to go back to him. they're not going to go back to a guy who is a guaranteed loser. if they want conventional, they go with jeb or they'll go with chris christie. >> tara you're the political strategist at the table tonight. if he's in who does that help, who does that hurt on the republican side? >> well first i want to say i think mitt romney will run. the only circumstance under which i think he does not run is if the powers that be the people, the king makers in the republican party, the big donors, the people who control the conservative media, if they sit him down and say, don't run, that's the only eventuality under which i think he doesn't run. >> so he runs unless the powers that be in the party tell him don't run? >> i think so. >> i should have called rush before the show. >> but tara do you -- >> let me tell you why i think he will run. because number one, he wants this really really bad.
number two, i guarantee you he has done the vulnerability assessment of that field. remember, he has chris christie's vetting paperwork. so he knows what skeletons are in that closet beyond what we already know about him. number three if you look at the field without even doing a vulnerability assessment which i think he did because he has the money to do it. if you look at the field, jeb bush has bad financial dealings. when that comes out, he's going to be in trouble. >> krystal? >> tara the problem there, though republicans think they should have been able to beat obama with a ham sandwich last time. that was in their mind. it was their race to lose. he lost it. it's hard to recover that for the establishment donors and get them back. >> look where the energy is. the gop is invigorated at a grassroots tea party level. they think they made a mistake the last two times by going with these big conventional guys. i don't think they'll make the same mistake again. >> i'm trying to get my brain around are we ready for more of
this? let me show you what we'll be in store for. >> so we went to the company and said, look you can't have any illegals working on our property. i'm running for office for pete's sake. i can't have illegals. 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. they brought us whole binders full of women. rick, i'll tell you what. 10,000 bucks? $10,000 bet? corporations are people my friend. >> i mean, i mean do we really think america's waiting with bated breath for more of that? >> new yorko, i mean, just playing that clip would be enough to dis abuse any republicans from saying -- he's enjoying maybe we should have, maybe we could have. ultimately we know they know he was not a good candidate and is a very bad fit. >> very last -- >> josh i got to move on, but
let me ask this. could one of the more celebrated leaders in our history be facing criminal charges? "the new york times" reported the fbi and justice department prosecutors have recommended bringing felony charges against david petraeus. the prosecutor is saying the general may have improperly disclosed classified information to his biographer paula broadwell. who he admitted to having an affair with. some from both sides of the aisle already defending him. attorney general holder is keeping quiet on whether petraeus will face criminal charges. tara petraeus said he never provided classified information to miss broadwell. should he be charged? >> well if people can prove otherwise that he has, in fact committed a felony. if there is proof he did, in fact, do that he's committed a felony. he's a celebrated figure whether people like him or not. he's a celebrated figure in
american politics. i will say this. if charges are brought against him, he has no one to blame but himself. >> josh? >> this is one of the most secretive administrations. they've gone after so many whistleblowers, gone after so many leakers. obama administration is atrocious when it comes to this sort of stuff. i say, yes, don't pursue him. don't prosecute him. but also pardon snowden. you know forget about being so paranoid about the secrecy of this government. we have more top secret documents being issued at the moment thatn we have in america's history. quit with all of this paranoia. >> he was director of the cia. that's a very, very different situation. we cannot have a situation in this country where there are two criminal justice systems depending on how important and powerful you are. >> apply to everybody. >> people who were tortured unconstitutionally -- >> stay with me. when we come back we go to the golden globes and a speech to remember from rapper, common.
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we're back with our panel, krystal, josh, and tara. now to the golden globals and a powerful acceptance speech from rapper common who won with john lend for their original song featured in "selma." >> the first day i stepped on the set of "selma" i began to feel like this was bigger than a
movie. as i got to know the people of the civil rights movement i realized i am the hopeful black woman who was denied her right to vote. i am the caring white supporter killed on the front lines of freedom. i am the unarmed black kid who maybe needed a hand but instead was given a bullet. i am the two fallen police officers murdered in the line of duty. "selma" has awakened my humanity. >> josh, what do you make of that acceptance speech? >> i think it's a powerful reminder of the fact that art is not distinct and different from the rest of our lives. right? that at its best it's able to reflect and comment on and make us think about the way that we engage with the world. the way that we engage with each other. i think there are a lot f filmof films that have been powerful that this way this year. i think it's been a good year for hollywood. in spite of all the crazy, silly, summer blockbusters,
there have been a few films that remind of us that. that speech was a perfect way of bringing bringing -- >> tara, i've seen the film and i think particularly at these times that so much social justice movements, some of which i'm involved in i think it really put a lot of context to where we find ourselves in some of the broad discussions that are happening now around race and civil liberties and civil rights and crime. >> well sadly, we've come on the one hand we've come a long way, but on the other hand sadly, we see so many parallels as we stated with this film and what is happening today, and i think his speech in particular was so important because he talked art everyone suffering and one of the most poignant wonderful parts of the civil rights movement is everyone came together. not everyone but most people came together to support the movement. >> but i think if you watch the film, you find that it was a lot more divided than people thought. >> that's right. >> even in the black community, krystal.
they didn't want dr. king to come to selma. what is he doing here? there were some against nonviolence. i think a lot of people have seen a sanitized version and this film showed it was not much less divisive than it is right now. >> and it's easy to find yourself on the wrong side of history if you're not careful and if you're not thinking art that moral arc of the universe. looks back it seems inevitable and obvious, yes, this is going to happen. going back to that moment it was so tenuous and so divided. i love what common said though. he said when i stepped on the set and i knew this was more than a movie. and that is hollywood at its best. telling those stories that are more than just, you know, a fun -- >> i actually like that he -- i like that he identified that he was the kid that was unarmed and reached out for a hand and got a bullet, but he was also the two police officers that was killed in the line of duty. he was giving equal balance to
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timely tonight, five years ago today, devastation in haiti. when a massive earthquake hit haiti's capital and two days later the world got its first view of the destruction. >> daystaying alive is the only priority. people are scavengeing the rubble for food and water. as one aid worker put it together, money is worth nothing right now. water is the currency. >> an estimated 230,000 people were killed by the quake. another 1.5 million were displaced. today there is much improvement. parts of hate it are better and
there are new roads and new cars in the city. hotels and updated hospitals have been built. but other parts remain untouched. at least 200,000 people live in hillside camps like these with no running water, electricity, or sanitation. nbc news interviewed this 32-year-old man living in a camp who said he is worse off after the earthquake than before. a total of $13.34 billion was raised for relief. this $4 billion has been allocated by the u.s. government. the other $9 billion-plus has yet to be used. global development analysts say a lack of accountability and transparency means hundreds of thousands of haitians have not gotten the help they need. the world rushed in to help.
science that together across multiple studies is forming a picture of what's going on in the gulf. >> dr. andrew whitehead. also with us tonight dr. mike robicheaux. that's it for "the ed show." good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead silence from the gop today. the startling response from republicans to rudy giuliani's ugly smear that president obama doesn't love america. a deafening no comment. and the pressure is building after giuliani stood by his insult. >> mr. mayor, do you want to apologize for your comment? >> not at all. i want to repeat it. the reality is from all i've seen of the president, all i've heard of him, he apologizing for america, he criticizes america.
he talks about the crews ides and how the christians were barbarian barbarians. i don't feel this love of america. the president and his comments has not displayed the kind of love of america, the kind of love of america and exceptionalism that other american presidents have displayed. i'm right about this. i have no doubt about it. i do not withdraw my words. >> there is no way to spin it. these are hateful slurs from a fading republican desperate for relevance. it should be easy for fellow republicans to reject this. and this morning msnbc's joe scar borough warned 2016 gop hopefuls, they can't let it hang over their party. >> are we really going to go through another cycle where republican candidates are too stupid to get out of the way of the stupidest people in their
party that keep them from winning presidential elections by spewing hatred instead of telling people how they're going to get back to work? it's not enough to say we'll let rudy giuliani speak for himself. >> today it looks like yes, there may be another cycle of this. so far only gop senator marco rubio has said clearly he doesn't agree with giuliani. scott walker said he'll let the mayor speak for himself. bobby jindal said the gist of what giuliani said is true. ted cruz declined to comment to us. rand paul declined to comment to us. indeed we still haven't heard from most of the big name 2016 republicans including jeb bush who we also reached out to. they aspire to be leaders of the free world, but they're in no rush to stand up to irrelevant
rudy juliangiuliani and is only hurting the gop brand and showing they're not serious about change. joining me now are e.j. dionne and jason johnson. thank you both for being here. >> glad to be here rev. >> e.j. before we get to the silence of republicans, i mean what's going on with rudy giuliani? what do you make of these comments? >> i mean these were appalling comments. i have to say i was surprised. i thought we might be done with this. the president's not on a ballot any more. there's absolutely no reason to say it. the thing he said that really bothered me and the way even more than he does a lot of america, which is absurd on its face is he wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and i was brought up. what in the world does that mean? what kind of code is there as if he lived in indonesia? is it a comment on who his mother was? what does that mean? i was just astonished by it.
>> jason, i see you shaking your head. what is it a code for, using e.j.'s term? >> he's that black guy in the white house that i never liked. that's the code speech. and really i think what giuliani should recognize from his ridiculous statements and republicans should realize as well is this is not a winning strategy. it's not just poor leadership it's not a winning strategy. one of the high points of the 2008 presidential election was when john mccain countered one of his own supporters and said look barack obama i don't agree with him, but i would never question this guy loves his country. you would think republicans would be smarter now. >> let me go to that because i think that's a very important point. john mccain, who i disagree with did have the courage that we are not seeing any republican contender have. watch this. >> i can't trust obama. i have read about him and he's
not -- he's an arab. he's not -- no? >> no ma'am, no ma'am. he's a decent family man citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about. he's not. thank you. >> now, e.j. i never thought i would miss john mccain, but this is the kind of leadership you can respect even if you don't vote for. and we've not seen that now. senator rubio did say on the record he disagrees with giuliani. but none of them have come out and shown what john mccain said in a crowd of people where he could have been heckled. none of them has shown that kind of moral strength. >> no that was very gutly from mccain. he got criticized by some people to his right for saying that. >> he did. >> marco rubio said almost
exactly the thing john mccain said. there are two things about this. what does this say republicans really think of their own people? because this is their judgment on their own base. and what they're saying is their own base believes this stuff? that doesn't show a lot of respect for your base. but what they also don't get is there are plenty of people who are not liberals and people who didn't vote for president obama but they're uncomfortable and unhappy when politicians talk like this. so i think they're definitely making a mistake with middle of the road voters but it says terrible things about their analysis of their own party. >> let me go back to another point you were commenting on. giuliani told "the new york times" his comments were racist. he says in fact some people thought it was racist. i thought that was a joke since he was brought up by a white mother, a white grandfather, went to white schools and most of this he learned from white people. this isn't racism.
this is socialism or possibly anti-colonialism. now, i mean, how do you react to that aside from the race part and aside from the fact that the grandfather he's talking about that brought him up was a world war ii veteran who fought for the country, is he condemning anti-colonialism? i thought all of us were anti-colonialism. i don't even understand the logic of what he's saying here. >> obviously rudy giuliani doesn't even understand the level of criticism he's throwing out. number one, i've never heard of the school in hawaii being called white schools. but president obama wasn't raised by people like you. on the other hand while he was raised by white people in the midwest, on one hand president obama's a horrible dictator on the other hand he's a feckless coward in the face of isis. giuliani represents a throwback
in the republican party to let's just keep throwing things at president obama. and this is where it ends up being a strategic problem. he's not on the ballot in 2016. if they keep wanting to bash president obama, that will make it easier for hillary clinton to say, look at these guys trapped in the past. i represent the future. >> e.j. one of the more striking parts of giuliani's interview was about 9/11. listen to this. >> president obama didn't live through september 11th. i did. president obama didn't almost have a building fall on him, myself and my police commissioner and my fire commissioner did. so excuse me, it's a little bit emotional for me but it's also real. >> i mean i'm totally, what is that supposed to mean? >> if we weren't mayor of new york if we weren't in new york city when nooin9/11 happened, we didn't feel it. rudy giuliani in that period gained national notoriety and a
lot of respect because every american felt hit by 9/11. for him to say that hard to figure out what he's trying to say. >> i was in new york that day. in fact it was the mayoral primary day. i was in a way to finance the run against rudy giuliani. does that mean i didn't love america? the logic of that -- i said he was a fading republican desperate because there's not even any logic to any of these things. >> i think maybe we shouldn't be looking for logic here because there isn't any. >> why can't the relevant guys running today in the republican party condemn it? that's my real point. >> yeah now, i think they should be out there. but only marco rubio's doing it. >> in terms of the 2016 republican hopefuls mother jones writes this could be an opportunity for jeb bush to speak out. quote, jeb bush could, if he's splart he will taking a public
stand against giuliani would cement his position as the adult in the republican field. jeb bush is trying to run as the so-called moderate. why haven't we heard from him on this? >> because i think if there's anything we've seen in last eight years there's not much political hay to be made of being the adult in the room. president obama has been the dad in chief of the republican congress for years and that hasn't necessarily helped him. any presidential candidate who actually cares about this country should come out and condemn these comments. jeb bush he like hillary clinton, i don't want to say anything that's remotely controversial right now. i want to slide into eventually announcing i'm running for president. because he believes long-term if he ignores things like this it won't come back to haunt him. from a leadership standpoint and statesman standpoint, it's kind of cowardly and ruins the discourse we need to have in
this country going forward. >> e.j. dionne and jason johnson, thank you for your time tonight. >> you too, reverend. >> you too, rev. coming up president obama on fire today talking about republicans bamboozling folks with middle class talk. >> there is this old saying that you can't just talk the talk. donna? you got to do what? you got to walk the walk. plus as we get ready for the oscar, we look at remarkable year of performances and also a year of serious snubs. and i'm giving out my weekly report card. what grade will sarah palin get tonight? it might surprise you. what makes thermacare different? two words: it heals. how? with heat. unlike creams and rubs that mask the
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no matter what your political party, there's no denying the u.s. economy is bouncing back. more jobs higher wages, the auto industry's back and the deficit's down. this all happened on president obama's watch. and in a strong speech to the dnc today he cheered our progress and reminded the crowd
about the naysayers we've seen along the way. >> we were told by our good friends the republicans that our actions would crush us explode deficits, and destroy the country. i mean i want everybody to do a fact check. >> that's right. they predicted chaos, not a comeback. but they -- but they are doing it all over again. now that they've been proven wrong. >> now that their grand predictions of doom and gloom and death panels and armageddon haven't come true the sky hasn't fallen chicken little's quiet the new plan apparently of congressional republicans -- and this is progress -- the new
plan is to rebrand themself as the party of the middle class. >> everyone from john boehner to ted cruz to jeb bush is talking about income inequality in the middle class these days. but what does it actually mean? >> if you're just trying to repackage the same top-down economics and use the words "middle class" attached to it if you're just going to keep on cutting taxes at the top and not raise minimum wages for folks who are struggling then it's just spin. trying to bamboozle folks. >> real change from the gop would be great, but that's not what we've seen. >> i'm encouraged that they're speaking about middle class and
speaking about wages, but there is this old saying that you can't just talk the talk. donna? you got to do what? you got to walk the walk. tell us how you're helping middle class families because we got an agenda and we know it works. >> if the gop wants us to buy this new message they're selling, they've got to start walking the walk and so far all we've heard so talk. joining me now are political strategist angela rye and ryan grimm bureau chief for the huffington post. thank you both for being here. >> thank you reverend. >> thank you, rev. >> angela was the president's speech today a road map for democrats for how to talk about their agenda? >> you know rev, he laid out this road map before the election in november. he's been very clear not only
about his economic record but about how democrats should talk about it. the problem is they didn't follow the road map. they did not follow that trail. they ran in the other direction, which is why we suffered the greatest consequences ever in this election. but what i will say to you is that today he did lay out some very clear talking points based upon his accomplishments. that's what talking points should be about, they should be about your priorities. hence his little bit of shade to the republican party for them talking the talk and not walking the same walk. >> ryan republicans are in a tough place. they were against the policies that got the economy moving. so what can they say now? >> well what they can say now is exactly what they are saying that actually they deserve credit for all this and they saw all of this coming. you know and you can tell the president is kind of really feeling it when he goes into his kind of stand-up comic routine. he gets the crowd chuckling and he kind of feeds off of that. and he was doing some of that.
and riffing off of how republicans said well actually the reason the economy's kind of surging right now is that republicans were elected to take over the senate and people were so happy about that that magically the economy just started booming. so that's absurd and the crowd can laugh at it but what's underneath that is the broader republican strategy to just say it and just to repeat things. >> let me show you, angela one of them that's been saying it that's just been talking the talk and that's mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell. listen to what president obama said about him. >> our republican leader in the senate, as he was coming in after having tried to block every single thing that we've done to strengthen the economy, starts looking at job numbers and says you know it's getting better because we just got elected. and people are feeling more optimistic.
which -- okay. i diplomat knowdn't know that's how the economy worked, but maybe. >> you know mcconnell claiming credit for the recovery pass the laugh test angela? >> you know it doesn't pass the laugh test rev. we know since mitch mcconnell's not a scientist, he's clearly not an economist either. the president jabbing him there was a good one and and effective one. it would be good to see what kind of middle class economics are you touting when the only concerns you've had is my ceo bonus wasn't quite large enough. at some point your rhetoric has to match the policies that you push and they won't even consider a minimum wage raise in the senate and the house. this would be all very interesting. >> you know, ryan besides taking credit for the recovery lots of republicans all of a
sudden have discovered and become interested in inequality. listen to some of this. >> today americans across the country are frustrated. they see only a small portion of the population riding the economy's up es k later. >> hard working men and women across america hurting. >> this so-called 1% that the president's talking about have done quite well. >> the president's policies have made income inequality worse. >> but they're against minimum wage hikes, they're trying to take away health care. how can they be worrying about inequality ryan? >> i mean it's a real credit to kind of the progressive movement and to a more populous movement that elizabeth warren's been spearheading, that they're forced to even talk that talk. clearly, like you said they're not walking it yet. they're not following up those soundbites with and so therefore
we should raise the minimum wage or therefore we should hike taxes on capital gains and dividends. it kind of stops at that point. but getting to that point is meaningful because it opens up space where things can start to happen. look at what walmart did, you know in raising its minimum wage. you know it's not high enough. but getting it up to $9 an hour that's a real benefit. and that comes from a political movement political pressure put on walmart by its own workers, from outside unions, responding to that. and they're responding to the same energy that people like ted cruz and john boehner and mitch mcconnell are feeling. mitch mcconnell probably wanted to spit after he used the phrase "1%" but he did it anyway because he knows that's where the politics are right now. >> but angela we're not seeing the policy. >> no. >> we're not seeing the legislation. they control the senate and the congress. if they were serious, why don't they come forward with some policy and make it law?
>> well it would be very hard to do that and keep their base happy. whether you're talking about the fact that dhs funding runs out next week and they're holding that up because of their inability to get their party to move on immigration reform or the fact that again, they won't even consider a minimum wage increase or the fact that they blank at tax balk at tax breaks. they never supported these policies, we can't expect them to do it now. >> angela rye and ryan grim thank you for your time tonight and have a great weekend. >> you too. >> you too. >> still lead is the vice president running a stealth campaign for 2016? also buzz about the academy awards this sunday. all the talk about the stars and the snubs. but first, reverend al's report card is next.
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it's time now for reverend al's weekly report card. >> welcome, welcome to all my student. this week let's get right to it. first grade tonight goes to rudy giuliani. he claimed president obama doesn't love america. then bizarrely tried to defend it. tonight rudy gets an "i" for irrelevant. i don't really need to say anything other than that. my next student tonight is governor sarah palin. it was good running into her on the snl red carpet. >> we are the direct opposites of american politics but we're here tonight. >> but you know what we both love america so much right? >> that's right. >> it's americana all the way
and respect for the entertainment value they provide. >> and they spoofed both of us. and i defend the fact that she actually sees russia from her house. >> oh, god, see? >> here al, ready? >> tonight, i'm grading both governor palin and myself. we get a "d," but it's not what you think. "d" for defying expectations, because that's what we did on the red carpet. and i'll throw in an f for fun, too. like i always say, we can disagree without being disagreeable. my final student tonight is an 11-year-old girl named rowan hanson. she wrote a letter to d.c. comics saying i'm a girl and i'm upset because there aren't many girl superheroes. girls read comics too, and they care. here's what she told the "today"
show. >> it's not like the male superheroes are better than the female superheroes, but there are just more of them. if batman gets to wear armor, then why doesn't wonder woman get to wear armor? i know that she's kind of invulnerable, but it would still be nicer if she didn't wear a bathing suit all the time. >> it looks like d.c. comics is paying attention. they sent rowan a sketch of a superhero they designed after her. and it kind of bears a striking resemblance to someone else we know but i digress. tonight, rowan gets an "s" for super. she's got the super power of passion on her side and we expect big things in her future. thanks to all my students tonight. class dismissed. >> that's tonight's edition of reverend al's weekly report card. still running in the morning? yeah.
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it's time now for conversation nation. joining me tonight debby huntsman legal analyst john burns and democratic strategist tara dowel dell. thanks to all of you for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> thank you rev. >> we start with the right to attack president obama from rudy giuliani now and others over the years claiming he doesn't love america. maybe this is just a simple mistake. maybe they just didn't listen to the speech he made today. >> it's about making this nation we love more perfect. >> come to think of it maybe they never heard anything he said ever. >> i will let no one question my love of this country. i love america. america, this country that i
love. the best days for this country we love are still ahead. i believe in american exceptionallyism with every fiber of my being. we live in the greatest nation on earth. thank you, america. god bless you. god bless this united states. >> the president doesn't love america? how is this even a question right now? >> yeah, this is a statement that has really gotten under my skin because i asked the question where has respect gone in this country? to claim the president does not love america is about the most unpatriotic thing anyone can say. coming from rudy giuliani i don't think he realizes that he's still someone people look up to in the party and to say something like that when the gop is really trying to broaden their tent it doesn't look so good. he's trying to get some headlines, he's trying to get some attention. but it makes me sad about the fact that we can say these things and somehow it's okay.
i am happy about the backlash. there is a line that we draw in the sand that we say that's probably something we shouldn't say. we can disagree with the president on facebook to say he doesn't love america, that's going too far. >> strong words from abby and abb abby is a republican and my friend. >> that's right. >> tara sth. >> first of all, i agree with abby in the point that rudy giuliani is in desperate need of attention. he hasn't met a microphone that he hasn't loved. he's doing this for attention. but part and parcel of this is not just his need for attention, this part of a messaging strategy that the republicans have been doing for the last six years. he's not the first person to say this and i guarantee you he will not be the last to make some iteration of this statement. this messaging. if you say it over and over again, it will plant a seed in people's mind.
that's the goal of this type of thing. especially when you hear it being said across the party by numerous people. >> john? >> yeah no i completely agree with tara and abby. rudy giuliani is just trying to stay relevant. it's really bad leadership for the republican party. no one is coming out to condemn it publicly. someone has to come out and condemn it publicly. it's poor strategy. we know the president is not on the ballot in 2016. clearly the republicans are still living in the past and that will leave the door open for someone to say the republicans are living in the past, i'm focused on the future. it's poor strategy for them. >> i've got to ask you, are you surprised at some of the republican leadership and especially some of the major nominee or those that will pursue the nomination haven't come out and condemned rudy giuliani other than rubio? >> yeah i think they feel like they're in a tough place. you look at scott walker who doesn't want to talk about it he sort of skirts this issue, i
love america and i know there are democrats, republicans and independents that love america. but there are a lot of these folks campaigning in 2016 they've got to appeal to the far right and their folks in the primaries that love this type of rhetoric. i can understand why they're not coming out and speaking up about this, but i do know there are a lot of folks that would say, this is not right. but unfortunately, as of right now, they're not. >> no i understand it. i understand it's political cowardice. next up democrats and 2016. senator warren has repeatedly said she's not running, but it hasn't stopped people from talking about it. of course, there's lots of buzz about hillary clinton, but no official word yet. and then there's vice president joe biden who says he'll make a decision by the summer. but check out his travel schedule. in the past week alone he's been visiting the battleground or primary states of iowa south
carolina and north carolina. tara biden 2016 is it possible? >> if i say that biden wants to run, that's like saying the sun came up this morning. does biden want to run, is water wet? he absolutely wants to run. the question is will he run. and the biggest problem for joe biden, because i think he would run in a heartbeat, the issue for him is right now just how formidable hillary clinton is looking in the polls at this point in time. but he's clearly testing the water. he's going into these states to try to see what type of reception he'll get from the people in those states from party leaders, grassroots activists in those states. this is clearly strategic. he's definitely advancing a strategy on this front. >> abby this could be a lot of fun, though. >> yeah i don't think he's running. i think the writing's on the wall that he's not actually
going to go through with it. he won't run against hillary clinton. let's be honest about that. he loves the attention. this is the fun time for joe biden. have the media make speculation on whether they're running. i would love for joe biden to run, i would love for elizabeth warren to run. it makes for a fun debate. you have republicans with like 50 candidates. it might be interesting to have someone beyond hillary run. it would make for a better debate. she'd be better equipped if she has to go up against something in the primaries. >> john i'm going to break. you want to get in here. >> it leaves an opening for joe biden. he hasn't established any type of pac, hasn't hired any key staffers. i don't really think he's going to run. >> abby john and tara thank you for joining the conversation tonight. have a great weekend all of you. >> thanks rev.
>> thanks rev. >> be sure to catch abby on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 eastern right here on msnbc. coming up the countdown to the oscars is on. so many movies to celebrate, but it is also been a year of controversy in hollywood. that's next. photos are great for capturing your world. and now they can transform it. with the new angie's list app, you can get projects done in a snap. take a photo of your project or just tell us what you need done and angie's list will find a top rated provider to do the job. the angie's list app is the simple, new way to get work done on your schedule. the app makes it easy, the power of angie's list makes it work. call, click or download the app for free today. alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours, but aleve can last 12 hours... and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are you?
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picks and what to watch for, but when the nominations came out last month, the lack of diversity was a big story. how is hollywood dealing with this? >> hollywood is dealing with this by making promises about what they're going to do in the future, but i don't think they're going to see any difference. there's a process for how you become an academy member and there's a process, an institutionalized process for how you get to be a consistent member of the town as they call it. and it's very difficult. it's more difficult to break there than it is to break into congress. >> well then let me push you on that point because "the washington post" says hollywood and congress share a lack of diversity at their recent best oscar nominees were twice as diverse as congress. >> yeah. >> at their worst, they had zero minority nominees this year. congress is four times more diverse than the nominees. and the academy that votes on something you referred to the
academy that votes on these awards are 93% male 76% white and average age is 63. i might, in full discloseuredisclosure, the los angeles branch of my group is picketing the academy about the issue of the academy that makes these selections or not difbs diverse enough. how do we change that when the process is so in itself so limiting? >> it's very hard to change that. i mean this is an important issue because the films that come out of hollywood as well as the independent community making films, they're very important because they shape in part how we see america, how we see ourself, soves ourselves, so we show black people looking bad, being criminals, that's bad for our self-image, that's bad for the way white americans see us. this is an important issue, but
it's very difficult to change rev. i don't have the solutions right here. i wish i did, or if i had i'd be out in hollywood helping you implement them. you see tyler perry out there creating his own film studio working outside of the hollywood system and making change himself and making films that a lot of black people love to go see. but this is going to be a very difficult problem similar to how do we further integrate congress, how do we further integrate wall street these are difficult issues. >> one thing is we've got to keep raising the issues. let me switch to the academy awards itself. who is your pick for best picture? >> best picture will go to "birdman." that was my choice for best film of last year. an amazingly made piece of art. i enjoy this discussion of a man who feels like he's at the bottom creatively career wise, trying to find a way to bring himself back up and use broadway as a launching pad to get back on his feet and his career.
he's also got the family problems going on. i love birdman. i watched it several times. so you know i'm happy to see that win, if it does go on to win and it looks like it probably will. beyond that you know it seems like the actor awards are already engraved. i mean it looks pretty certain. >> who would you pick for best actor? >> well, i mean i would give it to michael keaton but it looks like eddie redmayne has got that locked up. looks like julianne moore from "still alice" has the best actress category locked up. j.k. simmons will almost certainly win best supporting actor, which is interesting because he's got a leading actor size role in the movie, so they were smart to put him in the best supporting actor category. >> nothing for "american sniper"? everybody is talking about that. that's the talk of the country. >> i mean you know it's doing a huge amount of business but does that mean that it's a great film?
i think that everything that "american sniper" accomplished creatively was done better by "hurt locker" in terms of showing us war, at how he dealt with being at home and dealing with the ptsd at home. i think "american sniper" is a good picture, but it's not a great one. >> well toure, thanks for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> you can catch toure on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. we'll be back with a powerful film about achieving dreams and never giving up. it's an inspiring story you'll want to see. (vo) after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet. a car that can see trouble... ...and stop itself to avoid it. when the insurance institute for highway safety tested front crash prevention nobody beat subaru models with eyesight.
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can lead to off the court. >> anything that keeps kids off the street is very important. >> it's important for me for him not to be a statistic. >> this is what i need to do in order to get to a professional level or to do good to get into scholarship to get into college or high school. >> i want to be one of the best nba players that ever. ♪ did you improve on the design ♪ ♪ did you do something new ♪ >> growing up in the hood and poverty, the only way out sometimes is to play basketball or some sport. >> so i tell my mom we're going to get out of here i mean that we're going to get out of this neighborhood because it's very bad. >> joining me now is the director of "little ballers" crystal mccrery. thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me so much. it's a pleasure. >> tell me what did you learn
about inner city boys and basketball? >> well, the thing that i learned about the young men in this film and really urban youth that play basketball is that it offers them hope. it's transformative. it offers many of these young men who otherwise might be seduced by gangs in their community, it offers them a sense of family. it offers them a place to go. it offers them structure. it offers them an opportunity to get fit, to be competitive, but more than anything the team has become a family to them. >> now there's so many nba stars in the film. amar'e stoudemire is the executive producer. he played in this league growing up. how did it impact his life? >> he grew up in florida and a challenging upbringing where basketball really was a lifeline for him. even for kids that don't make it to the nba -- because, let's be honest -- >> that's what i was going to ask you, because not everybody will make it to the nba. >> you're right. most kids will not make it to
the nba. but 10 million kids play high school ball, 2,000 get division i col scholarships 60 get drafted and 30 make the team. you do the math. it's not going to happen. but it does so much more. it offers them an opportunity to learn, to work through adversity, to learn to have teamwork, to keep them off the streets, to get an education. and that's one of the reasons i really wanted to tell this story. i wanted to show how diverse boys and girls through basketball through sports can be brought together and have their lives expanded. >> now, the team also provides male role models to some boys who may not have them. i want to play a clip from the film of the coach talking to his team. watch this. >> you have come together as a teep. team. that's something that you should be proud of. every one of you guys has something unique about yourself that you brought to this team. to this family. we're not a team we're family.
>> crystal, how important is the idea of being not just a team but family to these boys? >> oh it's tremendously important. even for the boys in the film who, yes, they have families they have their fathers there, they have step-fathers or maybe they're from divorced families with coach billy who you just saw in the clip coach billy is a wonderful role model for these young men and has been coaching on the circuit for 15 16 years. he's made it a point of staying involved in these young men's lives throughout high school and helping them to realize that even if they don't go pro, which as we know most won't go pro, they can get an education, they can become an orthopedic surgeon, they can become a trainer oen a teamtrain er on a team, they can do a wide array of activities that they love so much but they don't necessarily have the role models in their lives to help get them to that point. >> it airs on nickelodeon sports next week.
him with that crowd. david corn always a pleasure. thanks so much. that is "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. \s . thank to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight from the fake ga lap goss islands. happy darwin today. 206 years ago charles darwin was born. he would develop his theory of evolution from what he saw right here in galapagos islands, all the way back to 1835 when darwin discovered the animals that led to his famous theory. look there's the famous galapagos seals, but back in reality people all over the world are celebrating darwin's birthday today. there are over 100 parties across the globe. in ohio they're wearing darwin
beards and do 24-hour readings of the "the origin of species." in north dakota, you can hang out with a life-sized cutout of the guy. in portugal you can even go speed dating with evolutionary biologists. but one guy who hasn't rsvp'd to the parties, wisconsin governor scott walker who asked if he believed in evolution. >> are you comfortable with the idea of evolution? do you believe in it? do you accept it? >> for me i'm going to punt on that as well. >> no. really? >> that's a question a politician shouldn't be involved in one way or the other. >> so the new gop star the guy rush limbaugh is gushing over can't answer a question on evolution? he tried to clarify it. quote -- both science and my faith dictate my belief that we
are created by god. i believe faith and science are compatible, and go hand in hand. but 98% of scientists believe that humans evolved over time. there's a growing problem with the gop and science. we all know about this image, the evolution of man, but there's the evolution of the gop, it looks like it hasn't evolved on policy issues. from health care to women's rights to economic fairness to immigration. the world is changing. it's about time the gop starts evolves, and a good way we could start -- answering simple questions on evolution. they shouldn't need this fake vest or be in the fake galapagos islands to do it. joining me now is congresswoman karen bass democrat of california and dana
milbank of "the washington post." thank you both for being here. >> looking sharp, reverend. >> thank you. congresswoman, first of all, happy darwin day to you. >> thank you, same to you. >> how do you explain scott walker? >> i will say that scott walker was auditioning to run for president, and i think he failed on his first audition. there's no explanation for that and there's no excuse to dodge such a fundamental question as that. >> and there's no contradiction of having faith and science, but dana scott walker whab kind of the flavor of the week lately in the gop, but if you can't answer a question on how he feels about evolution, how can he survive a presidential primary? >> yeah i wonder about that reverend, what is it about every time a republican goes over to london, they wander down some blind alley and end up in the 19th century. just a week ago chris christie
was disparaging vaccination when he was over in britain, and now you have this on evolution. i would say at the rate that republicans are evolving right now, i think you'll see a blue hydrangea evolve into a bald eagle before you see this party evolve into a modern political party. >> congresswoman, talking about how the gop is evolving what would you like to see your republican colleagues evolve on? >> just i could go down a long list but we do have to acknowledge that they are consistent. because they also don't believe in global warming, because there's a lot of snow in boston. they haven't evolved when it comes to the question of women's health and some people believe that women have magical powers. so i think we see this consistently. then what they're doing here in congress, we voted for the 56th time to repeal obamacare, so we really could call this the cut-and-paste congress. we are literally doing the exact same thing we did last session
and just repeating it this session. it's a ritual that we have to do every few months. i guess that's the way they satisfy their base. >> dana another things that republicans haven't evolved on is funding the government. the department of homeland security could be headed for a shutdown because republicans keep passing bills that defund the president's executive action on immigration. and democrats won't vote for them. here's senator ted cruz on the situation to date. >> we are in a time of growing threats at home and abroad and for senate democrats in a partisan vote to filibuster funding for the department of homeland security is both reckless and irresponsible. the answer is for senate democrats not to be obstructionists. >> but "the hill" reports that one gop senator whispered to "the hill" reporter quote -- of
course republicans will get blamed for a shutdown. so if there's a shutdown at homeland security who will get the blame, dana? >> well of course the congress which is controlled by republicans will get the blame for this. >> right. >> you can hear people already complaining privately, republicans complaining privately that ted chris has done this to them again. look since taking over congress a month or so ago, they've been slipping on one banana peel over another, whether it's been with abortion immigration, the keystone pipeline and now this homeland security thing that ted cruz served up. they -- just as he did to them in the fall of 2013 they seem to have no way out of this thing other than climbing down in humiliation, or forcing a shutdown that they're bound to lose. >> congresswoman, i heard you kind of making noise. you want to weigh in on that same question? >> i certainly do. think of the irony. you have the republicans who want to go to war. the president has asked for the
authorization of the use of force. he really wants to have it tailored and narrowed. the republicans want it to be more expanded but yet they're not going to fund the homeland? so we will be prepared to have a war, but yet tsa and the other things we they'd to protect our own country here that's what they're holding up. you can't say that the democrats are responsible for shutdown if it happens. they control everything now. they control the senate they control the house. the whole enchilada is in their lap. >> you know, dana the republicans are criticizing the president's request authorizing military action against isil as you said. but listen to this from the crew over at fox. >> it seems that it comes with a ton of restrictions restricting the war-fighting distress of the president there, specific limits seem to be put in the language of this agreement here on ground troops. a limited time really saying
this is going to be done in three years. what does it say to the enemy? pretty much outlining all the things we won't do. >> tell us what we're going to do and not what we're not going to do. >> the president seems caught up in 2008. he's not george bush. >> or tell the enemy every day how long they need to wait us out sinchts how can they criticize that dana? >> think about the hi pockriesy here, every day you tune into "fox & friends" and they call the president a dictator who's seizing power. he's comes in with a narrow resolution that's asking congress to limit his powers saying we want to give him way more pow are than he wants to accept. basically whatever this president is proposing, they're opposed to it. >> exactly. >> congresswoman, some reps have gone even further than that. one member said he's not sure he should vote for the military authorization, because the president might help isis.
listen to this. >> we have a commander in chief who seems not only not really not unwilling, but really working collaboratively with what i would say is the enemy of freedom and of individual freedom and liberty and western civilization and modernity. in that context, how do you vote to give this commander in chief the authority and the power to take action? he actually might use it to further their cause in what seems to be his cause and just drag you as a complicitor in it. >> congresswoman, this is outrageous. the president working with an enemy? how can a sitting member of congress get away with it? >> that was so garbled i'm not sure what they were saying. i will tell you they say he's overextended his power, he's coming to congress asking us to
give the authorization, so now there is a problem with that. so on a daily basis, you can see it doesn't matter what the president says they're going to be against it even if they were to have written the bill if he puts his name on it and says he supports it they will be against it. >> congresswoman karen bass and dana milbank, thanks for your time tonight and happy darwin day. >> same to you. >> thank you, rev. james comy speaks out in a very candid way. much more on that speech ahead. plus was it a hate crime? developing news tonight on the triple murder of three muslim americans. plus why are gop senators delaying loretta lynch's attorney general nomination vote? democrats are not holding back today. and president obama ace viral video that has everyone
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ashton carter today. no drama, no delays. he should take over sometime next week. this moved fast and it highlice a clear difference in the republican handling of another obama nominee. loretta lynch for attorney general. republicans have been slow-walking her nomination and just pushed back on a key vote on lynch to the end of the month at the earliest. look at the numbers. it took ash carter 67 days to get from nomination to past the committee. look at loretta lynch. we're at 96 days and counting. since the president announced she was the one for the job, today senate democrats said it's not right. >> i think that loretta lynch is being held to a double standard,
and her nominategnomenomination is listed on the agenda. her nomination has been pending longer than any modern nominee. >> she's been treated differently, i guess because she's a woman. what i object to is she is singled out. >> vote no that's your right, but let's just vote. i don't believe there's any excuse to delay the confirmation of such an exceptional nominee. so what's the holdup to a vote on a woman praised by both parties as a great pick for the job? joining me now is sirius/xm radio host joe madison. joe, thank you for being here. >> thank you, reverend. joe, lynch has a lot of support for both sides. what do republicans have to gain by dragging their feet? >> i think two things. one, they get a chance to profile in front of their
constituents. they're bringing up the whole issue of immigration as a way of delaying it. number two, they seem to be confused. you know we all don't look alike, and we all don't think alike, and they somehow want to -- i think dig one last dig at eric holder. he's probably been mentioned more in these hearings than she has been mentioned, and i think that's really the reason. this seems to be an opportunity to take a last-minute dig at eric holder. >> now, you know when democrats raise concerns that we played earlier, republicans seemed caught off-guard today. listen. >> i'm just a little surprised at the argument. >> i mean this is a case of faux outrage, if i ever saw one.
>> i think it's a bogus argument. >> what about this outrage do they think is fake, joe? >> i mean i don't know. i absolutely don't know. you have some of the most senior members of -- republican members of the committee that already are in support of her. and i don't know what this outrage is. now, you know i'll just say it outright. they could be -- it could be a double standard as you ahead, because she's a woman. there also could be a double standard because she's got two problems -- not a problem, but in their mind a problem, that she's a woman, and she's african-american. we might as well put that on the table also. but what is the outrage? the reality is as the senators said, look we know who's going to vote against her.
they've already done the arithmetic. just take the darn vote because now we will be looking at march before a full vote is even taken in the senate and, you know -- >> absolutely but i want to press on this because today senator feinstein laid out how long it took to confirm the last five attorney generals. lynch hasn't been approved yet, and the process is by far the longest. >> that's right. >> why is she being treated differently, is the question? >> let's be straight up. maybe she has two strikes again her, one she's a woman, and two she's african-american. and they want to make sure she's not eric holder. take a look. she may turn out to be even better than eric holder. she's her own woman. that's one of the reasons that president obama nominated her,
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headline "the dangers of make-believe foreign policy." wait a second if anyone knows about make-believe foreign policy is karl rove bush's brain in the white house that led us to a disastrous war in iraq and he's continued to defend that war long after. >> i do believe that the iraq war was the right thing to do and the world is a safer place to having hussein gone. >> i seem to recall he had a little trouble believing the math behind president obama's reelection victory. >> do you believe that ohio has been settled? >> no i don't. look, if we are calling this on the basis of 74% of the vote being in and when 77% is in secretary of state website, i have the director of the ohio campaign for romney on the other end of the line -- >> here's something else that's
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preliminary investigation shows the suspect, 46-year-old craig hicks, was motivated by a parking dispute, and that the shootings were not related to the victims' faith. hicks' wife has spoken out, saying she agrees with that. but today the father of two of the victims said his previous encounters with his daughter indicate the killings were motivated by hate. >> he came to their apartment with his gun two or three times before the murder on different occasions. my daughter claimed he hated them. i would call on the chapel hill police, unc, and president obama, churches mosques, synagogues, and the american nation, if this is not a hate crime, what is a hate crime? joining mess now at the ving
the in raleigh is nbc.com's aliyah frumin. what's the mood in the community today? >> reporter: well, here at north carolina state university there are literally hundreds of people behind me, here to memorialize the three shot on tuesday. the feeling is most of all shot that such a tragedy could happen here. the youngest victim was a student here studying architecture, and many of them are here today to memorial lies that victim razan, just a feeling of anger, sadness, and a desire for justice. >> the family wants this to be investigated as a hate crime. what are people saying? >> reporter: right, well we have spoken to several people
here at the vigil who have also expressed that sentiment. earlier today there was a funeral in raleigh. the father of two of the victims, who you mentioned before, got up and stage said quote -- this has hate crime written all over it and he called on president obama, federal and state authorities to investigate this as a hate crime, and we're hearing some of the same sentiment here at the vigil as well. >> aliyah frumin thank you for your time tonight. now i want to bring in eugene o'donnell, professor of law and police study at john jay college of criminal justice. thank you for being here eugene. >> thank you, rev. >> if you were on this case, what are you doing today trying to see if hate motivated this? >> well that's really what it is. clearly it's a criminal act, a horrific criminal act. the issue really is going to be could the prove beyond a
reasonable doubt it is hate motivated. so parsing these interactions some of the victims did wear distinctive clothing that identified them their religion. there were some facebook posts. i think this guy is a self-proclaimed atheist, so he's not unaware of religion he's made some elliptical references. is the attorney says they're not there, i believe the folks are still -- but the fbi is monitoring this. the world is watching so i hope they're giving it a full-court press. >> let me press you on this. the suspect posted facebook messages, as you referred to that referenced religion. one that read quote -- people are saying nothing can solve the middle east problem. not mediation, not arms not financial aid. i say there is something. atheism. and his wife spoke about his facebook page. listen. >> he often champions on his
facebook page for the rights of many individuals, um for same-sex marriages, um abortion, uh, race. >> i mean how important could the suspect's social media posts be in this case eugene? >> it could be very important. it's a high threshold, so you're not quite there yet, i think on what's publicly known, but he's not unmindful of religion he's interested in the middle east. these victims were distinctively clothed, which is one of the criteria the fbi uses but it would very much be a full-court press, i hoe search warrants will be executed they'll go to any kind of social media references, neighbors, to see if he's referenced this. obviously whether or not the case is ultimately brought, there is a deterrent effect to having federal agents watching this should anybody likeminded
out there be watching they should by aware that law enforcement will be brought to bear in these situations. a local prosecutor's office reluctant to bring about hate crime prosecutions? >> well here you've got very serious charges, so you have -- you have capital or certainly first-degree murder charges, but the truth is it is a reality if i've been around for these cases, the local people including in a city you go to new york in a neighborhood sometimes when you have an event, people try to downplay it. they try to say everybody gets along, there's no trouble here so i think it's important to have a separate set of eyes. it's good that the federal government is monitoring it. it doesn't mean they're ultimately going to jump in but at least they're monitoring so there won't be a temptation to just pave over the reality. >> you were an assistant district attorney. what's the standard for a hay crime? >> it's a pretty high standard. you have a crime and then you
look to see whether there was a motivation that had to do with one of the protected classes, but it really only allows you to get moore serious. the rub here is that the charges on their own, the state charges, the murder charges, this guy will never see the light of day on those grounds, but there is this deterrent issue. you have to be mindful of not only the impact on going after this guy, but anybody who would target people because of these protected classes, as the law -- as the law sets forth. >> well we are going to be watching this. this is a very important case. a lot of people have a lot of questions. a lot of legitimate concerns. eugene o'donnell, thank you for your time tonight. >> sure. coming up extraordinary words from the fbi director. candidly speaking about racial bias in policing today. much more on that speech ahead. plus justice ruth bader
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time now for conversation nation. joining us tonight, senior editor at mike.com liz plank. legal analyst john burns, and democratic strategist tara dowdell. thank you for being here tonight. first up supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg thinks americans are ready for gay marriage. in a new bur view she says people are more accepting now than ever before. >> i think that as more and more people came out and said this is who i am and the rest of us recognize that they are one of us. i think it would not take a large adjustment. >> want to know what she's talking about? check out this video on facebook
that's gone viral of one alabama resident doing a tongue in cheek report of all the changes he's seen since gay marriage was legalized in his state. >> this pile of brush is still here and there are no homosexuals laying on top of it doing homosexual things. we're not going to be subjected to any kind of plagues of homosexuals falling from the sky. everything is pretty much still the same. >> you know tara a funny way to make a point. the sky is not falling. the issue has moved so quickly in our politics but is the justice right, what she says? >> the notorious rbg is absolutely correct. >> the notorious -- she is
absolutely correct, america is ready and has demonstrated we are ready for gay marriage getting fewer and farther in between these days. >> i totally agree with tara. i think it's time for the supreme court to come out and legalize gay marriage. because we have to guarantee rights for everyone for same-sex culture. >> liz? >> notorious rbg might be 81 years old. >> and hate-riots. >> you should copyright that. >> but she's so in touch. who is powering the future right now. >> absolutely. >> 71% of millennials are for gay marriage. we know love doesn't belong to one religion or one party. it belongs to everyone. so it's nice to see her.
>> and even some of the older people, even in alabama, where there's resistance have openly claimed to move toward a let people be people and have equal rights. >> absolutely. i think when we see more and more prominent people coming forward saying this is who i am i think that's also help to fuel it. i think the lbgt community also pushing legislatively pushing the issue in the various states i mean that made a difference. i'm glad to see they did a state-by-state strategy. sometimes if you can't get it at the supreme court level immediately, state by state is a good way to do it. >> that was smart strategy. >> thanks on that. let me go tonight to tributesouble butte pouring in for bob simon. the legendary correspondent who died last night in a car accident here in new york city. bob is remembered for his humor, courage and grace. reporting some of the most
dangerous war zones in the world. >> this is israel's most advanced position on the southern front. >> and the steps are being wheeled up to a plane bearing the words "the arab republic of egypt." will miracles never cease. >> his head was high and fist clenched. he walled out of a victor like a chief of state. >> four cbs newsmen disappeared. >> this is a story that could have ended another way, but it's had a happy ending. >> a lot of people are spending a lot of money in a hope to get a good look at a shark. >> this pygmy possum couldn't get enough -- >> bridge still honors the grand wizard of the kkk.
>> the irony is here's a man who reported literally from some of the most dangerous zones, dangerous stories in the world, and himself was in danger yet he died a few blocks from his house in a car accident. there was no one who seems to have liked him a lot. it's kind of ironic but i think he was such a pioneer in his field but he just told compelling stories of the human spirit. i think it's befitting that the last interview was ava dueverney. >> tara. >> what an icon.
he was even tortured. that's something we haven't heard much about, but he was tortured. >> himself. >> this is a journalist who showed courage. they don't make many journalists like this anymore. >> they didn't make many line that then. >> right. so losing him is a real loss to journalism. he was there for smmt most historic moments of our time around the world. he covered them honestly with candor, and with sensitivity. >> liz? >> as a young person in journalism, i looked up to him on a lot of things. i think what's great about his work is that it's out there for all of us to watch and see. i'm hoping a lot of people will spend of time spend the weekend watching the incredible reporting. >> he left a high bar and a really great journalist. everyone stay with me. we'll be right back with the democrats' choice for the 2016 convention. and obama video everyone is
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and of course cheesesteaks. the other finalists were columbus ohio and my hometown brooklyn, new york. tara, i have a biased opinion here but what do you think of the choice? >> i'm shocked you have a biased opinion. i think philly was a great choice. both mayor nutter the mayor of philadelphia, as well as the governor of pennsylvania have been very key president obama supporters. remember, the governor campaigned with president obama when many other democrats were running from him. also, point two, pennsylvania is still considered somewhat of a swing state, and republicans still think that they can at some point get pennsylvania and win pennsylvania. >> liz, does it matter where the convention is? >> i think it matters where the best food is. i mean let's be honest. obviously it would have been awesome for it to be new york. >> brooklyn. be specific. >> true.
excuse me. i'm not a true new yorker. i think it will be great. john everybody is asking me on social media, when i ran for president, did i eat cheesesteaks? >> right. >> let me show you how everybody did when they ran. >> okay. >> there's kerry. there's hillary clinton. there's president obama. >> yeah going to town on that. >> there's joe biden, who also ran for president. he's from scranton digging in there. as i said john kerry. the question is did i eat cheesesteak? i ate everything back then. >> me too. >> i mean there's going to be a lot of politicians not running for president, but holding office eating cheesesteak next year. >> philly is a perfect city
too, with all the restaurants, hotels transportation centrally located, so people can really convene and be that community, which is so important with conventions. >> let me go to the final story tonight. the video getting all the buzz online today. president obama's featured in a buzzfeed have i i don't called things everyone does but doesn't talk about, like taking selfies and talking in the mirror. ♪ >> deadline for signing up for health insurance is february-rue. >> not like any other we had-nes-day. >> feb-ru -- february 15th. >> thanks, obama. >> thank obama.
>> mm. >> mr. president? >> can i live? >> yolo, man. the young man in the video was the buzzfeed reporter but liz, some say this video demeans his office but isn't this an effective way to reach young people? >> it's a historic way of reaching young people. i've never seen a president do something like that before. it doesn't even come off as contrived. he's just so relatable in that video. i just want to watch it over and over again. >> john? >> i completely agree. he's a human being. i'm guilty of doing all those things, too. it's good to see him be a human being. >> why did you see to liz first? i'm young, too. i'm also young. >> all right. >> wow. >> no i think that the
president -- first of all health care reform is important. we want to get people to sign up. whatever we have to do to reach people, i think we do it. this video has millions of hits so clearly it's reaching people. so to my young panel tonight -- >> very young panel. thanks for your time tonight. we'll be right back with a history-making speech from the head of the fbi. sthoo monthly statements and online...for free. that's pretty cool of you guys. well we just want to help you stay on top of your credit and avoid surprises. good. i hate surprises. ahhhh ahhhh are you ok? nope. we treat you like you'd treat you. we've already given more than 175 million free fico® credit scores to our cardmembers. apply today at discover.com ♪ at kraft we start with
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comey said he keeps a copy of the order to wiretap dr. king in his office to remind himself every today of the bureau's past mistakes. decades later, comey says we must recognize the long history of injustice in the country, and the problems that still exist today. >> there is a disconnect between police agencies and the citizens they serve, predominantly in communities of color. serious debates are taking place about how law enforcement personnel relate to the communities they serve, about the appropriate use of force. many people in our white majority culture have unconscious racial biases and react differently to a white face than a black fate. in fact we all, white and black, carry various biases around with us. >> that's true and recognizing and overcoming this bias is the challenge we all face. comey talked about his personal
experience growing up as a descendant of irish immigrants. >> i am descended from irish immigrants. a century ago the irish knew well how american society and law enforcement viewed them as drunks roughians and criminals. it lives on in the nickname we still use for the vehicles we use to transport groups of prisoners. it is, after all, called the paddy wagon. >> he says the justice system has brutally unfair to certainly communities, but he also said residents must appreciate that most police officers are good people putting their lives on the line to do the right thing. >> racial bias isn't epidemic in law enforcement any more than academia or the arts. in fact i believe law enforcement overwhelmingly attracts people who want to do
good for a living people who risk their lives, because they want to help other people and they do some of the hardest, most dangerous policing to protect communities of color. >> he's right, and it's important we point that out. the fbi director said we're at a cross roads in how we deal with race and policing and to move forward we have to be willing to talk about these hard truths. yes, i'm sure that he will be attacked by some and many have had the courage to address this have been castigated and demonized. >> i often wonder why there's such a visceral reaction when we raise this issue and maybe the discomfort shows that we have not solved it. and that it is still something that someone will want to run away from. he's right. we have to deal with hard truths and make hard decisions to
d with the oscars? he should be more concerned with real issues like terror attacks. lets keep talking. log on to the "fox & friends" facebook page to weigh in today. >> yes. have a great weekend. >> happy friday. "fox & friends" starts now. bye. good morning. it is friday january 16. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert for you. airstrikes aren't working so how will the united states defeat isis? the new plan just announced, to send our troops into syria. >> the white house says they had to release detainees from gitmo because gitmo is what's causing a lot of violence. >> it would also be unwise to neglect the fact that our -- the prison at guantanamo bay continues to inspire violent acts around the globe. >> so is letting terrorists back on the battle field. the solution? we'll talk about that.
we first brought you this story and you fought back. this morning a huge update on duke university's plan to play the muslim call to prayer from the christian chapel. many of you will like how that ends. i can tell you this, mornings are better with friends. >> amen. >> hi everybody this is dawn from gilligan's island. you are watching "fox & friends." it is the real three-hour tour. >> from a three hour tour to the three week time when the folks who have dish could not see it. ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for your patience. yesterday afternoon they worked everything out and now we're back on dish. >> we're so thankful. it's great to be back with all of you. >> a lot of loyal dish viewers missed us and we missed you so we look forward to that. we have incredible stories today to go over but first heather nauert has a quick update. >> we start out seas.
one day we learned that the u.s. led airstrikes in syria are not working against isis, the u.s. military announcing it will send 400 u.s. troops to the region. the purpose is to train those moderate syrian fighters. they will be brought to neighboring countries for that work. our troops will head there in the spring. a dozen people were just arrested near paris in connection with the terror attacks there that left 17 people dead. the nine men and three women are now being questioned over possible links to the gunman at the kosher super market massacre. french police believed they supplied him with weapons and cars to carry out that attack. my body is on fire. those were some of the last words from a convicted baby killer who was just executed in oklahoma. charles warner was killed by lethal injection overnight. he showed no signs of
physical distress bus this was the state's first execution since the prisoner died during that botched execution attempt last year. >> pope francis is calling for an end to government corruption in asia's largest capital nation. the pontiff urging them to use their resources to help tens of millions living in poverty. this as we learn the pope will name an american as a roman catholic saint during his visit to the united states in september. he is one of california's original founders. he is being praised for bringing christianity to natives there. those are your headlines. see you in about a half an hour. >> since the president of the united states took over there's been almost no talk about gitmo and what a bad symbol it is. prior to that, in the bush administration all you heard was we've got to close gitmo so the bush administration put it on track to be closed. they said in the perfect
world it would be great to not have a need to have gitmo but dick cheney also warned when you look at these cases you will have a hard time closing the place. believe me there is a hard time closing the place because in there the worst of the worst. not reformed, al qaeda's worst, leadership command structure, they are there. and now they're getting out. and the explanations we're getting on why they're being released and the places they're going to, to me, do not fly. >> a lot of questions -- here we are now where ed henry took this question to josh earnest to try to wrap his head around why are we releasing these prisoners now. >> especially the five we released two days ago. >> we read their profiles. you would be aghast. look them up because it is remarkable to see what these terrorists were involved in and now they're headed out to oman, possibly jump over to yemen. you can't even believe it. ed henry couldn't.
he asked josh earnest why are we doing this right now or at all. >> nearly a week after terrorists with ties to yemen, at least one of them trained by al qaeda in yemen, killed at least a dozen people in paris. how could the president release five more gitmo detainees originally from yemen? >> because there was a unanimous recommendation from his national security team that steps could be put in place to ensure that when these individuals are transferred that we can significantly mitigate any threat that they have to the u.s. for our interests. >> i can tell you that only 6% or so of those transfers somebody suspected of or have been confirmed to rejoin the fight. >> isn't that still a problem? six pght -- six percent could wind up as terrorists. >> that is why this administration continues to pursue an aggressive
terrorist strategy. at the same time it would be unwise to neglect the fact that our -- the prison at guantanamo bay continues to inspire violent acts around the globe. >> we've heard that before. keep in mind the people who hate us over there just hate us over there and hate us here. are we going to close america? no. >> none of that happened before guantanamo bay existed. >> that's what charles krauthammer said. listen to this. >> the idea of guantanamo, recruiting the tool for isis or al qaeda is nonsense. do you think that the guys who killed the journalist in paris were inspired by gitmo? do you think the guy who shot the hostages in the jewish deli in paris were inspired by gitmo? 9/11 happened before gitmo ever existed. they have a list of grievances which is as long as the day. these people are inspired and recruited by their
objection to our way of life and the fact that we defend our way of life around the world. and they believe in islamist supremecy where shah rhea rules. >> -- where sharia rules. >> they close gitmo; they're not going to hate us anymore? >> if someone wanted to kill you and they were in prison and they were released, you would think maybe someone should let me know. with these five prisoners being released who terrorists, by the way want to kill you, they want to kill me, they want to kill everybody that doesn't agree with me, you would want to have this information. and you know the network is negligent in letting people know. only abc gave 35 seconds in letting people know about them being released. nbc zero not one second to let you know. >> here's why it is
significant. the week before you had paris blow up, you had 2,000 killed in nigeria. if you look at the terrorists, one of the brothers he trained in yemen. then you see oman borders yemen. all these guys are from yemen. this is in the face of the french and all of western europe. and guess what? no wonder they're mad that their buddies are tied up in gitmo. they can't join them in the terror fight. what kind of vocational training have they been through at gitmo? are they going to get themselves a different job and different career? >> probably not. any way, five more released and they'll be back in the terror business in no time. meantime yesterday we told you about this story. duke university 1:00 this afternoon was planning to go ahead and play the muslim call to prayer from the campus chapel right there, the bell tower. that is not a mosque but it's a chapel. so they were going to do that. then there was outcry from people like franklin graham
who was upset that christianity was excluded from the public square. he went on to say, you know what if duke supporters were smart if they don't like this, they would withhold their money. something worked because late yesterday duke caved and said you know what? maybe this isn't such a good idea after all. >> here's what they had to say, from their spokesman. it was clear that what was conceived as an effort to unify was not having the intended effect. the population there 15,000 claim to be muslim. the center did hire its first-time muslim chaplain. that is perhaps why they were trying to broaden. >> i saw in one of the local news stations down there in raleigh what they say is -- and this is only place i saw this -- there was a credible and serious security threat. that's why they reversed it. >> or it could be the
money, the funds being withheld. >> both sides weighed in on sean last night. here are the students. >> i consider myself a christian at duke university, and i was saddened that they had to cancel the call to prayer because in my view, christianity is a religion of love and love for the neighbor. part of that -- >> i'm thankful the university has reconsidered their decision to play the muslim call to prayer every friday. they heard the voice of not only students but alumni and the public at large. >> the whole idea was they were trying to include the muslim call to prayer during the day at duke. but here's the thing. they don't include any of the other religions. they excluded everything else. so they included and excluded at the same time and people said come on. if you want to do one, do them all. you can't do one and not do the others.
>> particularly the actual chapel where this was going to be broadcast. they are going to move it. it is going to occur, not just from the chapel. >> if you want to pray at certain times an iphone has a little alarm that could buzz your pocket. you don't have to make this a controversial issue. >> you're telling me there is an app for that? >> i even figured it out. can you believe it? i live in that tech world. i just got off a video game to do the show. 11 minutes after the top of the hour. >> he saved a navy seal from the hands of terrorists. the real-life story unfolded in the movie "lone survivor." >> why do you help me? >> why was he helping marcus latrell? now that afghani needs saving himself. this story may not be what it seems. new details this morning. >> kids, how about some
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after afghan village erecting everything to save marcus luttrell in a hollywood movie. >> he never hesitates to save a stranger but now he needs one to help himself. after the movie's release he and his family were targeted by the taliban. they are seeking asylum in the u.s. he has an attorney representing him. >> this isn't the first hero we represented. i helped the man who
stopped the shoe bomber. there are those out there that have this instinct to want to help and do good. here was one of ours, the best of the best of our society, a navy seal that was felled. this gentleman took him under his wing and the village watched you. he reached out to me this past summer and explained he was in america. things got weird. i don't know the politics but he left. now r.p.g.'s are going through his home. a couple of months ago a governor issued a letter a death warrant against my client indicating that arrest on sight or kill on sight kind of demand. >> is there a sense that there might be people behind the scenes that are manipulating him because he has had two opportunities to come here. he has been here for long periods of time. the paper work has been done and he's insisted on going back. >> i don't understand the politics, the movie, the book deals, the visits to
america. all i can tell you is i take this guy for what he is and that is somebody who saved one of us and is now trying to get out. the difficulty that we had was the american embassy in afghanistan was a target and a high-priced person like this where the taliban wanted to kill him imperilled not only himself but the procedure and extracting him out of afghanistan. i'm less concerned about the policy of this. he's a hero, marcus luttrell is a hero. my job is to keep immigration laws helping people who do good for us internationally. >> he did a wonderful thing. if you read the book you see the whole village did a wonderful thing. do you think the taliban had to hear about a movie to understand that he should be targeted? >> i don't know what they heard or why they're doing this. i can just tell you that we want to reward people that step up for our brothers and sisters in harm's way.
as soon as we do that internationally a red carpet should go out for somebody who did this. like my other client who was sleeping on a plane and sat on richard reid, this guy pulled him out of the waterfall and gave him safe haven. the whole village as far as i'm concerned earns our trust. >> you do a great thing one of the most respected immigration attorneys there is, but there -- is there a sense you might be being manipulated behind the scenes? >> i appreciate, first of all, your compliment and second of all i'm not as naive. the truth is that nobody has asked me to raise him money more than for his subsistence internationally and the essence of my profession would not allow me to entangle myself in any money. i don't see anything untoward. i see everything genuine and i refuse on principle -- i'm an observant jew. we're biblical cousins.
it is an awkward circumstance generally to deal with these kinds of experiences. i see this as a measure of principle. i'm so impressed by the hundreds of e-mails that we're getting internationally to see that this guy is given a home. i don't blame the world for being curious or thinking there's something below, like an iceberg below what we can see but i haven't seen anything. >> and you're the guy doing this for free just wanting to help him out. but if he does get here, doesn't speak english and has no skills and does not understand our culture, how would he survive? >> this is the greatest legacy greatest experiment in democracy. we are a inflammation of immigrants. who do you want to have here? our founding fathers established that very stock of trade. all of our citizens should have the instinct that this gentleman has to save somebody. he'll learn english he'll be productive. >> he did get two other offers to come here from great, great people like you and he turned them down.
we'll see what happens. all right. ten minutes before the bottom of the hour. straight ahead, we were promised health care costs will go down but our next guest has numbers to show the opposite. he can prove deductibles for expensive plans have gone up a hundred bucks.
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we've got some headlines for you on this friday morning. we just learned that neurosurgeon dr. ben carson will make a major announcement in a couple of weeks. he and an advisor are forming an exploratory committee thinking about running for the white house. wisconsin governor scott walker is making his own case for candidacy taking a swipe at hillary clinton. >> the reason hillary clinton was the big loser is because she embodies washington. she lives in washington. she worked in washington for this president and his
administration. she worked in washington when she was a united states senator. she embodies it. >> it was announced iowa's junior senator joni ernst will deliver the response to the president's state of the union response. marco rubio adding a little humor saying drink plenty of water before not during the speech. >> since the implementation of obamacare, more than six and a half heem reportedly signed -- people signed up for coverage this year. the deductibles for the least expensive plan have gone up about 100 bucks.
>> this is one example of our next guest and how he gives us evidence of our broken health care system. steven brill joins us now. i've always admired your ability to uncover what's going on for the american people. the bitter irony is you're writing this book about health care and you need open-heart surgery at about the same time. how did that tweak or refine your perspective on all this? >> i didn't plan it that way but it changed my perspective because it drove home in an emotional waip as opposed -- way as opposed to an intellectual way that health care is something that doesn't work well as a marketplace. in other words, when we get sick, when we're afraid when we're on the gurney, we can't say how much does that cost? that costs too much, i think i'll go across the street, i think i'll shop around a little bit. we don't know what we need. we don't know what it's going to cost.
and once we get the bill, we have no idea what the bill -- >> obamacare cured everything. everything's fixed now. >> the good news about obamacare for a lot of people is that tens of millions of people now have access to health care through insurance or through medicaid. the bad news is that you and i and everybody else who pay taxes are paying the same exorbitant prices in the same broken marketplace they were paying for. it's unsustainable. >> costs have not been controlled. >> costs haven't been controlled and there's nothing in the 965 pages of the law that purports to control costs except at the tiniest margins. >> you've heard the argument was it really worth blowing up everything to take care of 6.5 million people. >> we didn't blow up everything. we preserved everything. we added tens of millions of new customers on the taxpayers' dime into that marketplace which is a dysfunctional marketplace. there is a scene in the book where after i get out hospital,
i get 36 different explanations of benefits from 36 different -- >> could you understand the bill? >> that's my point. i think i'm pretty smart about this stuff by now, so i'm going through them and one of them says amount billed zero. amount you owe $154. as it turns out, i had an interview scheduled with the c.e.o. of united health care my insurance company and i asked him to explain that and he said i could sit here all day and i couldn't explain that to you. if he can't explain it, who can explain it? >> it's great to have everyone have insurance but if you look at the costs and do the math, what you did is totally unsustainable the costs are going to be out of control and the back room deals that got it passed make sure it will never be successful. >> people have coverage but in an unsustainable marketplace that obamacare does nothing or very little. >> who is the loser besides
the taxpayer? are the doctors the losers? >> the doctors are to gain. taxpayers, it's exorbitantly expensive. if you're the c.e.o. of a nonprofit hospital you make millions of dollars but the doctors and nurses aren't riding the gravy train. >> you've got a suggestion. let hospitals sell their own insurance. >> hospitals have been expanding. they have been gobbling up negotiators practices and clinics -- gobbling up doctors practices and insurance. let you and me buy insurance prosecute -- buy insurance from them. why would they want to overtest if they are the ones paying the bill? >> it is good to see someone who doesn't have a political horse in this race just write a book to tell the story. congratulations. >> thanks very much.
>> we're glad you're well, glad you wrote the book. let us know what you think about that suggestion about hospital running insurance. >> it is 6:30 in new york city. >> while you were sleeping new polls out there showing more than half of americans think we're still in a recession but the others say you're feeling good about the economy. stuart varney joins us. >> just do it. no, we're not talking about nike. we're talking about where people are being told make more babies. we'll tell you the details. >> just do it? >> it was hard for me to put that together. >> happy birthday. kate moss is 41. please, have a piece of cake. >> anything. ♪
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a fox news alert. another terror plot thwarted just in time. heather nauert has those details for you. >> let's start in europe right now. two suspected terrorists are dead and 13 more under arrest after belgium stopped a terror attack that was just about to go down. the investigation ending in explosive raid. take a look. three men in that raid with apparent ties to isis opened fire after cops swooped in. police say they have broken up what could have been another paris-style massacre. the two men who were killed returned from syria. he is the bartender accused of trying to kill john boehner and this morning the speaker has something to say about it. >> it's one thing to get a threat from far away.
it's another when it three doors from where you live. >> suspect michael hoyt has a history of mental illness. police say he plotted to slip something in his drink at a country club in ohio. >> wendy's is now caving in to demands from self-advocacy groups to drop soda from the kids menu. the fast food chain is now offering healthier options like 1% milk, bottled water or juice instead. parents can still order water but it won't be listed anymore. >> just do it and no we're not talking about nike. people are being told to make more babies in denmark. leaders tried giving rewards for positive pregnancy tests and that didn't raise the birthrate and they are now trying another approach. denmark has one of the lowest birth rates in europe 1.7 babies per family.
one town says they will keep schools, nurseries and other recreational places open but only if there are enough babies to use them. they even had carnal themed masses there where they were encouraging people at mass to get busy. >> really? in the catholic church. >> i don't think it was to do it at the mass. >> apparently not. >> holy cow! heather nauert, what a report. thank you. >> god wants us to, that is a good line. >> amen to that, i'll say. >> maria molina out on the streets of new york city where you know what? i know today it is just slightly below freezing but it actually feels almost warm today. >> doesn't it? it's been so cold in the northeast, wind chills well below zero and today current wind chills in the 20's in new york city. there is a look at wind
chills across the country. not really that bad for this time of the year. you're above zero in most areas. in the teens inlaces like caribou, maine. high temperatures are going to be better as well across the center of the country. in the 60's in the city of denver. 60's widespread across parts of oklahoma and texas. by sunday high temperatures across most of the country, going to be above average as much as 15 degrees above average in parts of the plains. we're going to have to watch out for a storm system tracking up the coast, potentially a nor'easter as we head into sunday and monday. it looks like because temperatures are going to be so warm we're not going to see a lot of snow. interior part of the northeast could be looking at significant snowfall though. >> if you're talking precipitation in january and it's not snow, i'll take it. in less than a week president obama is going to deliver his state of the union address and overnight brand-new fox news polls
show voters question the state of the economy under president obama. >> we're not done reading yet. more than 60% of voters say we're still in a recession but nearly the same amount are optimistic about the economy. how does that add up? i can't answer that question elisabeth. >> we have someone who can. that is why we're asking stuart varney on the fox business show. >> 64% of us think we're still in recession. does america feel prosperous to you? no, it doesn't feel prosperous. 64% think we are still in a recession. how does that happen? wages are flat costs are going up. spending power is crimped. we feel not prosperous. the other side of the coin 58% are optimistic. how does that happen? i think it's because gas prices are flatout collapsed. we're down to a national average of $2.08 a gallon. 23 states you can get gas for less than $2 a gallon. that makes us feel more
optimistic about the future. >> you see those numbers throughout the day when you're driving down the road. almost a minute by minute repeat of that situation. it feels good for american people. >> it's been going on for three months a constant decline in the price of gasoline. it feels good, makes you a little bit more optimistic even though the other side of the coin, the country as a whole doesn't feel prosperous. >> the president wants to up the minimum wage. he's talking about paid leave. isn't that going to help the economy? >> no, that does not work. what you need is economic growth. that's what you need. 4, 5 6% over a consistent period of time. the president's policies delivered this flat, no-growth society with stagnant wages, but the president's policies have not given us lower gas prices. the president is responsible for this pessimism but he's not responsible for the optimism from low gas prices. it seems like a contradiction but it's not.
>> his supporters say under this president the stock market has never been higher. >> that's got nothing to do with president obama. that's got everything to do with $3 trillion printed by the federal reserve which goes to make interest rates really, really low so stocks like very attractive and they rally. >> with those particularly low rates, the people who are really impacted are people who are living on fixed incomes, people who live on bonds, all those people watching us right now in florida they've never seen such low returns. >> when you get about half percent interest on your money -- and a lot of people are -- you don't feel prosperous. >> as a country we see that $18 trillion debt. in new york we walk by it every single day and nobody talks about it anymore. >> they should put that next to the gas prices. >> debt up, gas prices down. that's a contradiction. >> stuart, we can't wait to watch you on your show. i have a script to read. >> read it. >> watch stuart on the fox business network.
to find out how to get it in your area go to fox business.com/channel finder. >> stuart is coming up on his sixth anniversary. >> anniversary of what? >> never mind. >> david cameron is going to be here. >> any time you're here, it's a celebration. >> thank you, elisabeth. >> that was very nice of you to say. >> still ahead -- >> i mean it. >> if you desert america to fight with terrorists overseas, you can get your passport and return with no problem. a congressman who wants to change that. >> here illegally? no problem. mexico is now sending your birth certificate in the mail so you can stay in america. that seem different than it used to be. we're going to explain.
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go to huntsmancancer.org. ♪ ♪ quick headlines. first out of mexico, the country now issuing birth certificates to illegal immigrants at their u.s. consolate. this will make it easier for them to obtain driver's licenses and work permits under president obama's new immigration policy. the u.s. coast guard hitting a snag in the battle against south american drug cartels. the gangs using these super fast speedboats to smuggle drugs into the u.s. they are virtually undetectable on radar screens. those same cartels are also using submarines. elisabeth? >> more than a dozen americans are suspected of leaving the country to join terror groups in iraq and syria. back in october f.b.i.
director james comey addressed the threat of these people returning to the united states. >> ultimately an american citizen unless their passport is revoked is entitled to come back. someone who has fought with isi li wants to come back, we will track them very carefully. >> one lawmaker introduced legislation to revoke their passports completely ending their ability to travel internationally. why isn't every lawmaker behind this? we're going to ask congressman ted poe who joins us live from houston. congressman, thanks for being with us today. it seems logical as i just said, that this would be a great solution to keep our nation safe. can you describe a little bit, go into some detail with the legislation you're proposing. >> the legislation is pretty simple and it's based upon the fact that many young males throughout the world leave their home country, including the united states. they go to syria they get radicalized and then they come back to their home
country and commit crimes against the citizens of their own nation. so this legislation says that the state department can revoke a passport of any member of a foreign terrorist organization like isis. it's a crime. it's a felony to be a member of a foreign terrorist organization. when they go overseas, they're radicalized, they can't get back into the united states. they can't use their american passport for any purpose. they show up at an airport say, in europe paris trying to come back to america, they can't get on the airplane and hopefully law enforcement will be there to detain them as well. we don't want those people back in the country; prevent them from traveling throughout the world. >> why wouldn't others be behind you and support this? it seems as though this is the best measure to keep us safe especially right now. >> i think it is the best measure to keep us safe to give law enforcement this option to revoke the passport. we will get more members of congress supporting this this legislation was just
recently filed right after congress went into session. and i suspect that it will come up before my subcommittee on terrorism, and we'll eventually get it passed very soon. >> do you believe that the president of the united states will get behind this or will it stop at his desk with the pen? >> we don't know what the president will do but i suspect that hopefully he will see that this is very logical and we should use this tool to prevent those people from coming back to america to do harm to us. so we will pass it hopefully in the house send it to the senate send it to the president's desk. >> congressman, are you optimistic? >> oh yeah. >> on the heels of five gitmo detainees being released, just let them go, these are medium- high-risk individuals here, you're optimistic the president will look at this as a solution? it doesn't seem many will say he's solution-minded these days? >> that is a good point,
that gets my blood pressure up releasing those folks from gitmo sending them back overseas to commit crimes against us. i hope the president will see the wisdom in not letting people who have become radicalized back that the united states to do harm like they did in paris like they're trying to do in belgium and other western countries. >> congressman, we thank you for joining us from the great state of texas here at "fox & friends" with your words. >> thank you elisabeth. >> appreciate your time. this recreation center under fire for showing us on their television screens. one couple on a campaign to get fox news out of there. up next, two members of that center who are fighting back. imagine driving down the highway and this hits your windshield. ow! a tire goes flying and the guy behind the wheel walks away alive. thank goodness.
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one community rec center in ann arrest for, michigan, is finding it self in the middle of controversy because it shows the fox news channel at the gym. a couple who says fox news is offensive has made this petition which states quote, as taxpayers and paying members of the mary lou murray recreation center, we request the removal of fox news and any other partisan political news program
in from our public facility. the couple also complained to the county board. here to respond with two members who go to that rec center, they work out every once in a while there, chuck and janette. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> so let me ask you this, chuck, according to this couple, dave and sue webber fox news channel is offensive and shouldn't be shown in the cardioroom. what tutsi to that? >> well, i think they have a problem because what they think they're getting there news from are the channels that are so leaning left and they think that's gospel. >> we should point out that this couple apparently went into the cardioroom one day and of the dozen televisions there, four of them were set to fox news channel. but clearly if so many televisions are set to the fox news channel somebody there
must want to watch it. >> well, i think that's not quite true because i think it was set to fox news during election time. but typically only one of those tvs has fox news on it. i know that it probably will never happen again, they will have four channels on fox. >> probably not after the webbers have thrown this hissy fit. chuck, why do you think they've thrown this tantrum? they did say turn off fox and turn on ms nbc, because that's fair and balanced, which is funny. >> i would totally agree with you. actually in the room where most of the tvs are, number one there is no sound unless you bring your own ear phones and you plug it into the machine you're working on. so if you don't like it, you don't have to listen.
there are enough tvs that you can just turn your head and look at whatever you would like to look at. >> exactly. if the webbers tonight like the fox news channel, don't look at it. it's that simple. so what they're trying to do, if you think about it, they want it off of all the televisions. they're trying to censor fox news. they don't want us there. >> you're absolutely right. and my feeling number one the rec center is partially funded by our tax and everybody in ann arbor is paying a portion of those taxes. so it shouldn't be aimed toward any one group of people. it should be a diverse community. >> right. the channel selection should be fair and balanced. i just made that up. we thank you very much for joining us today. and for folks who are watching right now from any rec center or any workout room please try put
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on the highway. >> oh, my goodness. how one driver survived a headon houston collision with a run away tire. that could happen to anybody. we'll tell you what we know about that on this friday morning. you're watching live from new york it's "fox & friends". >> this is lee ann rhymes and you're watching "fox & friends." >> thank you very much. by the way, we were just talking to the couple in michigan who said that in their rec center, this one couple said you got to turn off fox news. already starting to get e-mail from people showing us the places where they do workout. i just got this tweet from somebody. steve, my ymca wouldn't put on fox news channel, so i canceled my gym membership. >> wow. and you also said if you're at the gym you and get them to turn on fox news send us a picture.
that's why all those tweets and e-mails are coming in. be careful when you're on the treadmill. >> you got to ask, but if the tv is just up there, help us spread the word folks. >> that's what i used to do. i'm not kidding. >> why rewatch f-troop in the morning when you can watch us. i know it's military. >> it's more larry storchian. >> you know when is coming up next? heather nauert. she has news for awful us working out. >> we'll bring you the news and start with a fox news alert. one day after we learned that the u.s.-led air strikes? syria are not work to fight isis, the u.s. military announcing that it will send 400 of our troops to the region. the purpose is to train those syrian moderate fighters who will be brought to neighboring countries to do their work. they will head there later this spring. another developing story now. a dozen people were just arrested near paris in
connection with the terrorist attacks there that left 17 people dead. the nine men and three women are being questioned over their allege links to the gunman in that kosher supermarket massacre. french police believe that they have supplied him with weapons and cars to carry out that attack. papa john's standing by a pizza delivery woman who opened fire on a robber in self-defense. 24-year-old don stevenson was shot in the face when he walked up to the unnamed woman while she sat inside her car and forced her to the ground at gun point. while papa john's bans employees from carrying weapons, they say the worker will not be fired but instead assigned to another position within that company. talk about living life in the fast lane, you got to see this. that wheel going right into the
dash. canadian driver is lucky to be alive after that tire flew down the highway and smashed right through the windshield. that dramatic moment all caught on his dash cam video. the tire shattered the windshield dented the car's frame and broke the sunroof. the driver ducked when the tire hit and miraculously was not hurt. he could easily be a goner with that. he's lucky to be alive. >> he sure is. >> thank you. t of the united states was in baltimore. they had kind of a summit of congressional democrats and what he said was i'm going to play offense. my final two years i'm going to be on the offense. i'm not going to let republicans screw up what we have achieved. he asked them to as well support him and if the republicans try to do something to support his vetoes. one of the things he promised from the get go was about gitmo. he wanted to close it. and sure enough, he is closing it by releasing detainees one by
one. five more this week. >> that's right. and four of them we learned are being released to oman, which borders yemen, which is where many terrorists we know get their training, including one of the kouachi brothers those behind the terrorist attack in paris last week. and another release is a top recruiter in afghanistan. i don't care if it's offense or defense, not many people are like the game plan the president has released. >> when president bush says he was going on the offense it used to drive people crazy. i was hoping the -- as i read the article he never really refers to that. he refers to the economy. and this is basically it. rudy guiliani sat there yesterday and i think he put it perfectly. we're essentially rearming the enemy for no apparent reason. they're not even telling us these guys are rehabbed or saying they're going to lock and key. they are free to do what they want from u uguay to the bahamas and other areas. john earnest was asked by ed henry and some others.
listen rationalize this for us. why would you be letting them out? >> a week after terrorists with ties to yemen, at least one of them trained by al-qaeda in yemen killed at least a dozen people in paris how could the president release five more gitmo detainees originally from there? >> because there was a unanimous recommendation from his national security team that steps could be put in place to insure these individuals are transferred, that we can significantly mitigate any threat that they have to the u.s. for our interests and i can tell you that only 6% or so of those transfers have been suspected of or have been confirmed to have rejoined the fight. >> isn't that still a problem? 6% of these detainees wind up going back into terrorism, could kill people in paris or washington. >> it is. it's certainly why this administration continues to pursue a very aggressive counterterrorism strategy. at the same time, it would also
be unwise to neglect the fact that our -- the prison at guantanamo bay continues to inspire violent acts around the globe. >> right. so gitmo is a recruiting tool the administration argues. charles krauthammer says yeah, maybe kind of, but is that the best you got? here he is. >> the idea of guantanamo bay a recruiting tool for isis or al-qaeda is nonsense. do you think that the guys who killed the journalist in paris were inspired by gitmo? do you think the guy who shot the hostages in the jewish deli in paris were inspired by gitmo? 9-11 happened before gitmo ever existed. they have a list evergreenances which is as long as day. these people are inspired and recruited by their objection to our way of life and the fact that we defend our way of life around the world.
and they believe in islamist supremacism where sharia rules they are in charge, and they run the world the way it's run today in isis territory in the islamic state. >> so as soon as we close gitmo, they're not going to hate us anymore, according to the administration's logic. >> according to you and this fox news poll just about 60% of you want gitmo to stay open and want terrorists to go there. >> you got to put the terrorists somewhere. >> americans are feeling as though we're under threat here and not feeling as safe as we used to at all. >> i don't know exactly when gitmo opened, but if you look back in our history to george washington, thomas jefferson, john adams and benjamin franklin, they were wrestling with the same issues we were wrestling with. i don't think gitmo was open then. >> gitmo has been a base down there for decades. it was after 9-11, though that we put those -- >> luxury prisons. >> the soccer field -- >> it's in the tropics.
it's a lot warmer in gitmo and beautiful than a lot of places right now. it's bitterly cold. meanwhile, the story recording the gitmo detainees being released to go back in the terror business, this is a big deal. how do you explain this? cbs didn't mention it once yesterday. nbc didn't mention it. and abc god bless you they invested 35 seconds in it. how much can you say in 35 seconds? >> this is throughout the day. this is not just in the morning. when you talk about the safety of the american people, they deserve to know that these individuals, these terrorists are out in oman which borders yemen which is where they're getting their training. >> if you didn't print that yesterday, believe me, they probably didn't mention the other ten. >> there is a reason fox news channel is the number one cable news source and that's because we give you both sides. we give you all the stuff. we report. you decide. meanwhile, here is something
else. al sharpton created a controversy over the oscar nominations yesterday morning and it's called an emergency meeting. he wants it with hollywood executives. why? because he did not like the films that were nominated for oscars. >> that's right. and anna kooiman is following this story. what's he saying now? >> here is what i can tell you. al sharpton invoking the deaths of michael brown and eric garner to explain why black actors were snubbed, saying this in the time of staten island and ferguson, to have one of the most shut out oscar nights is something incongruous. the only category well represented is in the best picture category about blacks being shut out of society. now we're shut out of hollywood. sharpton referring to the movie "selma" based on the story of martin luther king, junior and his civil rights marches. sharpton didn't stop there. he announced he's holding an emergency meeting next week to address the all white oscar nominees and discuss possible action around the academy
awards. you may remember that al sharpton held a similar meeting just weeks ago with the head of sony pictures, amy pascal. the two met after a cyber attack exposed her racially insensitive e-mails to another executive about president obama. afterwards, sharpton made a deal that would give him influence over the movies sony produces. meantime a new report recently revealing sharpton got paid thousands of dollars by dozens of corporations not to make racism claims against them. back to you. >> thank you for that. they were trying to get some hashtags trending. it was hands up no oscar and #oscarsowhite. >> keep in mind, while they were snubbed by the oscars, "selma" was shut out by the directors guild, writers guild and the screen actors guild as well. plus there has been a lot of bad buzz about the fact that apparently it is not historically accurate.
i have not seen the movie. i don't know. but apparently the way they portrayed the president of the united states was inaccurate. what do you think? e-mail us. we're going to read some of your comments in about 20 minutes right here on the channel. al sharpton injecting himself now into the oscars. >> i will definitely see "selma." i look forward to it. 12 minutes after the hour. >> we told you that the pentagon wants to send troops to train the rebels in syria today. will it actually work? pete hegseth the captain trained the opposition in afghanistan and iraq and he joins us next. >> plus, the right is right announcer might want to stick to his day job. look at the treadmill demo. not as good as you would like and it hurts your spine
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a shocking new report suggesting that hundreds of u.s. air strikes against targets in syria simply aren't working. >> our enemies now are stronger than ever before. they have doubled the amount of territory they hold with nearly one third of syria under isis control. now the pentagon wants to send u.s. troops 400, to train the
syrian rebels which may not exist. fox news contributor, major pete hegseth trained the opposition in iraq and afghanistan. pete, 400 to train rebels, moderate rebels. where do you find them? >> that's what we talked about. where do these -- where are these rebels because they're between an assad and -- >> antiassad and anti-isis? >> and anti-isis and willing to fight and put their life on the line. that's a dwindling number of people in syria right now. we've made a -- we like to look at borders and geography of borders. isis doesn't see them, so they flee across syria and use it to train and our air strikes have been inconsequential in rolling them back. as a result, they're still making gain. >> can we see that map one more time? when you look at this, what do you see? >> i see enemy safe havens. i see isis exploiting the fact that the united states has committed only to iraq and for whatever reason, decided that's where we're going to focus. it's very similar to what we saw
in afghanistan with pakistan. they knew they could go across the border into pakistan to train, to refit and anyone who looks at insurgency and how you defeat them, you can't allow the enemy a safe haven. and air strikes are not enough. >> and the thinking is, the reason they're going back into syria, the bad guys with isis is because they know that we're not going to bomb them to the point where we help assad. it's kind of like we don't want to help assad, but then again we want to kill them, but we can't do both. >> again, it goes back to a lack of strategy. we haven't decided what we want to do there. and our so-called allies on the side, whether it's the uaa or saudi arabia or egypt they haven't thrown in behind this mission because it's not clear! what are we attempt attempting to do? you have to lead. we were talking about if this the brian kilmeade plan. this is egyptian troops, we should be sending them in and saying this is your war -- >> he's not mr. hume rights.
he's got some flaw, but he has to take control of a country being inflicted with the muslim brotherhood. so he says, i'll give you troops. jordan says i'll give you troops. the uae and saudi arabia says i'll give you troops. in saudi arabia they're building a wall to keep them out. they demanded, take some control. you now have france's attention and england's attention. this is a rare window training a moderate opposition that doesn't exist is not using that window. >> no. absolutely right. and it shows that the u.s. is the only one willing ultimately to invest in this fight. how can we not leverage this moment when the world is watching, the muslim world is starting to realize the scourge that is isis and only they can truly confront it. we can lead that coalition! >> the longer they're allowed to have a base that's more terrorists that are going to come in and out of there trained, lethal and armed to hit us here. >> exactly. it makes it less likely we'll be able to form a coalition. when people see a lack of leadership and strategy, who wants to join that coalition? then the enemy is emboldened and
people are excited to continue to join isis, which is why you see these lone wolves growing n there is also a lack of news coverage with the main stream media. how many people actually have shown that picture? if the administration's feet were held to the fire they'd hold those up and say, wait a minute. it's getting a lot worse. >> and guys on the ground who are trying -- the iraqis, it's a long while to train them. isis is formidable. >> coming up, he has been arrested 24 times, but that's not stopping this criminal from getting paid more than $100,000 to work for the department of corrections. >> then she let her kids age send and six, walk home from the park alone. she said she's trying to teach them to be independent. but others say she's a bad mom. she will join us next. >> bad mom will? >> good or bad you decide. ♪ ♪
time for news by the numbers. first, 1.6 million. that's the record fine southwest airlines owes for keeping 16 planes on the tarmac for over three hours last year. passengers weren't allowed off the planes the entire time, which by the way is against the law. next, 12 courses. that's the size of the meal enjoyed by the director of national intelligence, james clapper, while in north korea. he was there for a secret mission, to free two american prisoners. but now the north korean government slapping clapper with -- sounds like a board game -- with a bill. u.s. officials not disclosing how much. and six that's how many sets of twins were born at a missouri
hospital over the last month. it's the most multiples in a hospital that's ever been cared for at one time in the history of the world. everyone healthy. elisabeth? >> i love that picture. thank you. a pair of maryland parents are accused of child neglect after allowing their two kids to walk home alone from a park about a mile away. so police picked up the kids about halfway through their walk after someone called to complain about it. soon after, child protective services launched an investigation into the family. the couple say they're just teaching their ten-year-old son and six-year-old daughter to be self-reliant. danielle joins me live this morning. thanks for being with us this morning. obviously a challenging week for you here because this has fired up a lot of people. parents and authorities alike. so what happened? the kids were walking about a mile and then the police picked them up? >> they were on their way home from the park about a mile away. a park they had been begging us
to let them go to. so they got halfway home and the police stopped to -- two cruisers said somebody called and said there were two kids by themselves and asked the kids how are you? are you lost? and my son said no. we're not lost. we're just walking home. we're allowed to do this. it's not against the law. and the police said, okay. please come with us. they brought them home. i was out of town at the time. >> were the kids scared at that point, being pulled into a police car? >> i actually think they thought it was all kind of exciting. they're pretty brave kids. to them it was all interesting. >> adventureous day. when they get home, i understand that the child protective services had you and your family sign a pledge. what did they require to you sign and promise? >> what they did is after the police dropped the kids off and then they left a few hours later, someone from cps came and they had a safety plan that they told my husband he had to sign that said the children would not be unattended at all until they
could follow up with us the following week. and he said i can't sign anything. i want to talk to my wife. i want to talk to a lawyer. and she said, if you don't sign this, we're going to take the children right now and she called the police. >> so they threatened to take your children away. this isn't the first time they walked to the park. had you been practicing with them, quarter mile, this is what you do? how long has this been going on and what's the build-up to this? >> it's been a long time. my son is ten and he probably started doing this on his own about seven. he could walk around the block and then he can go to the park a block away. then he can go to the store. my daughter is six and last year she started going around the block with her brother. six months ago they started going to our local park. it's been a build-up. >> we're getting some tweets and e-mails in. this is a little controversial. let me get your response, one says i'm not sure it was neglect. but why risk it? our children depend on us to protect them. it's called parenting. what's your response? >> parenting and every other generation involved letting your
kids want independence. not only letting them learn it, but helping them learn independence and resilience and courage and that's not going to happen if we're watching them all the time. >> do you consider the risk? some other comments said it just takes a minute to take somebody's child. why not give them the most protection possible? you say? >> i would say that the risk is overstated. we really overestimate the danger and we really underestimate our kids. the risk is saying we can do with our kids is put them in a car. but we do that every day because we understand that some risks are worth taking and actually getting your child snatched is extremely unlikely. >> will they be walking to the park alone again? >> lieutenantly. >> -- absolutely. >> you're strong in your position, has our viewers commenting left and right. we love to have more comments come in. let us know what you think about that. we thank you for your time this morning. wish your family continued safety. >> thanks. >> you got it. let us know what you think about that. now this, coming up, talk about being dead wrong.
a veteran gets a letter from the v.a. saying he's dead. yeah. that story is coming up next for you. then your e-mails are pouring in on another one. al sharpton calling for an emergency meeting with hollywood. why? he didn't like the oscar nominees at all. ♪ ♪ our eyes they have a 200-degree range of sight. which is good for me. hey! and bad for the barkley twins. your brain can send information to the rest of your body at 268 mph. three times the speed of a fastball. take care of your most important parts with centrum. multivitamins expertly designed with nutrients people don't get enough of from food alone. centrum. for the most important parts of you.
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look, we're in the beverage center center right there from david matthews. he said watching at the old bank mini mart in dellmont, south dakota. >> he was up early, five after 6. >> we have another one, we are watching fox news at fit in tyler, texas. take a look at that. >> there we are. >> right there on the treadmill. >> that guy needs to go faster. >> i think we need to go bigger. >> you know what? we also heard from some people who said they won't play us at certain places. there was a guy who said that at his planet fitness location they won't put on fox news and he's asked the manager and he goes no, it's a corporate decision. but curious about this decision is the fact that they are running cnn and msnbc. i've got a feeling maybe the guy who runs that particular planet fitness might not like the fox channel. >> come on, get us on. >> i don't know what planet he's from. but i'm not liking it.
>> whatever planet you're on, send us your photos watching "fox & friends" while getting fit. >> my favorite planet remains saturn. >> what about this one? >> this is okay. it's like fourth. >> you visited it? >> none yet. but it seems great. >> let's talk about more. >> a lot of people have been so sick around the country because of the flu this year. this could be part of the reason why. if you think a flu shot will protect you this year, you might want to think again. a new report out says this season's flu vaccine is just 23% effective. it is considered one of the worst in the last decade. doctors say that most flu viruses this year are different than the one that was used to make the vaccine last year. the cdc still recommends people six months and older to get vaccinated. they say the vaccine can lessen the symptoms of a flu if you do happen to get it. the v.a. sending con
dellences for the death of an arkansas veteran. the only problem is this guy is very much alive. his name is james fails and he says that he was the one who opened the letter offering money to pay for his own funeral? but that same week he also got a call reminding him of a v.a. doctor's appointment. he says he contacted the v.a. to try to straighten out that issue. they have since apologized and are working to get him back into that health care system. oh boy. illinois learning taxpayers learning a lesson. a gang member got his six figure job back with the illinois prison system. last month a state arbitrator ruled he deserved his job back. he was fired last january after reports surfaced that he had been arrested 24 times and fired from a previous job with the state. officials have since filed an appeal. a spokesman for the union says that he, quote, works in a
bargaining unit job title and they have a duty to defend him. boy, the irony there that he has a rap shoot, plus working for the prison system in the state of illinois. boy. the price might be right, but this tv announcer's technique is pretty wrong. >> the new treadmill! >> oh, no! that is george gray, eating it on national television. "the price is right" announcer tries to walk backwards on the treadmill but seriously fails. he gets up like nothing ever happens. nice job. >> taking it right. >> what a showcase. >> see you later. >> thank you. what do you think about this? al sharpton is calling an emergency meeting with hollywood after a lack of what he calls diversity in the oscar nominations this year. he actually is saying he needs a task force to discuss the possible action around the academy awards because all the
nominees -- right, it's an emergency. >> if he's calling for an emergency meeting with hollywood, i would imagine somebody in hollywood will be making a donation. >> nancy writes us with her reaction. she says wow. sharpton just won the lifetime oscar for best shakedown artist, in my opinion, of course. >> of course. mary says i think that now ferguson has quieted down, he needs something else to try to continue with his goal of prompting racial divide and put him back into the spotlight. >> okay. that is the theory. a good one. >> keep in mind, he's just upset that "selma" did not get nominated for more oscar nods other than best picture. >> best picture is a great nomination right? he should be happy. >> it's the best picture. >> i can't wait to see it. >> they're saying this is the whitest oscar list in 17 years. >> and he's going to bring in a task force apparently. >> so let us know. e-mail us what you think about al sharpton injecting himself
now into hollywood. >> this is one of the hottest times and one of the most exciting tes for kevin mccarthy. founder of nerdtears.com. >> where you going? why are you all dressed up? >> hey guys. i'm actually in los angeles for the oscar nominations yesterday. i was at the critics choice awards last night. i haven't changed since the awards show. i just came right to the studio. >> did you sleep in that? >> that camera man backed up a little bit. >> a lot to really be excited about. we heard american sniper with its knopf nation for the oscars, what did you think? fantastic opportunity. >> six nominations. >> this film is one of the most incredible, most emotional most powerful films i've seen in a long time. it's clint eastwood's best film. i was blown away. i've seen it twice now. and everything about this film works. bradley cooper became chris kyle and he gained 40 pounds.
you see no bradley cooper on camera. it's all chris kyle. he became this guy. bradley cooper is one of the few actors i feel like who can be part of a massive franchise like "the hangover" and completely shed that. that's nowhere near what you see on camera. he's one of the best actors working today. this is one of the most powerful films today and you feel like you're right there between the sniper rifle with chris kyle and there is a brilliant j. it's a well-made movie. bradley cooper delivers the best performance of 2014 and he deserves the academy award for this film. i seen the film twice. when i first saw it, i was thinking 4 1/2 out of five. then i sat down with my mom and dad and brother and i watched it and i'm giving this thing a five. it's an unbelievable film. highly recommend to see it. it's about a true american hero and patriot. phenomenal film. >> for sure. >> given the fact there is all this hacking going on in the world, people are interested in "black hat."
>> yeah. they should not be interested because the movie is terrible. it's a movie that really -- here is the thing, i love michael man. i'm a big fan of film making. but this film was so poorly directed in the first hour. i thought i was watching someone, like, thrown together home videos. it was so horrible. the acting was really bad. the dialogue was atrocious. and then the second hour it actually became kind of a decent movie at times. there was really good shootouts and good action scenes. chris hemsworth who i loved as thor was totally miscast. i gave it two. the only reason i gave it two out of five which means basically watch it on cable, rent it and skip the first hour. fast forward. i've been waiting 17 years to sit down with michael man and ask this one question. there is a movie called "heat." famous scene where they're at a diner talking. this is the first movie where they ever appeared on camera
together. if you watch the scene closely, michael man never shows their faces in the same shot. i wanted to know why would you not do that? why would you not put their faces on camera together. here is what he had to say about it. >> it's so intensely personal that as soon as you go to the objective instead of the subjective you stop being internalized into what's going on in the scene. you lose something. you lose 10, 15% for that moment. so i just wanted to be -- neil is looking at vincent and they're adjusting their body language and reaction to each other. i just wanted to keep it right there. i shot a profile. there were three cameras on the whole scene. >> now we know -- kevin, did you tell michael man that you waited 17 years to talk to about that movie, that you hated the new movie? >> oh, yeah. >> how did that go? >> i wasn't disrespectful about it.
i just didn't like the new movie. when you sit across from a director, i didn't disrespect him by telling him that. but i didn't like his new movie whatever. my girlfriend and i we actual lea visited the shop where they shot that scene. we sat in the exact position that they sat there. it was so cool. two out of five. go see "paddington". >> he's so passionate. thanks. >> go see american sniper. it's amazing. >> thank you. coming up, should american students have to pass the same citizenship test as illegals or immigrants to graduate high school? that mandate just passing overnight in one state. we got details coming up straight ahead gularity powders may take days to work. for gentle overnight relief, try dulcolax laxative tablets. ducolax provides gentle overnight relief, unlike miralax that can take up to
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can you name america's three branches of government? how about the number of amendments to the u.s. constitution? if you're a student in arizona you better know because these are the types of questions that will appear on the u.s. citizenship civics test. that is a test that will now be required to graduate from high school thanks to some landmark legislation signed into law last night by governor doocy in arizona. joining us now is the man who introduced that legislation majority leader of the arizona house of representatives, mr. steve montenegro. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to put up something that makes your point and that is how few people actually know -- americans know about american history. in oklahoma and arizona students have less than a 4% passage rate of a simple civics test. only a third of americans can name the branches of government and 25% can't i.d. who we gained
independence from. steve, why is it americans don't know much about history? >> well, this is what we see here as actually a crisis in civics that's happening. even the pew research mentions that, only a third can name the three branches of government, the national assessment on educational progress tells us that two-thirds of students test below proficient in the area of civics. i mean, we don't have to go further than comedians at night on their talk shows or making fun and poking fun of what we're seeing here today. this is a test that 92% of immigrants pass the first time when they want to become citizens. so this is something -- we're looking at basic fundamental facts of how our government works, where our rights come from, what the bill of rights does what the constitution of the united states are. >> we'll put up on the screen some of the examples of the questions on the simple test.
this is a test that high school students will have to pass and -- if they screw it up, they can take it as many times as it takes before they actually graduate. name one branch or part of the u.s. government. what is the capitol of your state? who is the commander in chief of the u.s. military? who is in charge of the executive branch? what do we call the first ten amendments of the constitution? those seem pretty simple and yet people don't know it. i know is personal to you. i know you come from a family of immigrants and you, as a young man, helped your parents study fort test. >> that's correct. i was too young to take the test myself. but my parents actually took it. i remember holding up the index cards, helping them study. they weren't perfect in english but they learned them because this is what makes america great. this is where we derive our rights from. government doesn't give them to us. our constitution is what makes our country so great. and when a people -- we forget that. we've been given an experiment.
only as much as we can keep it. so we have to do our part so that our students, if we're going to be giving them high school diploma, they should know these basic, fundamental facts of how our government works and where they derive their rights. and responsibilities. >> sure. that way they start their adult lives knowing where they're from. steve out in arizona, thank you very much and congratulations on getting it passed. >> thanks for having me. >> you bet. coming up on this friday, right now is the best time to buy a house. so how about this one for less than $300,000? look at that. it's gigantic. you know what? we got a couple more just like it. first on this day in history back in 2003 the space shut columbia lifted off on its final mission. in 1961, mickey mantle became the highest paid player in the american league. he had a $75,000 contract. and in 1980, michael jackson had the number one song in america,
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>> oh, it's houston, texas. absolutely. >> jonesboro georgia. this is worth $269,900. >> right. here is another one. a beautiful two story. this one's got great curb appeal. this is a big house. it's four bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths. almost 3,000 square feet. it's got a two story foyer, a great room it's huge, double windows. a big fireplace. it's got a wonderful open floor plan. everything flows really well. a wonderful gourmet kitchen center island, granite counter tops stainless steel appliances. it's also got a wonderful dining room that opens up to a view of a golf course. and this property is sitting on a cul-de-sac. it's a really beautiful property and a lot of house for your money. >> you put that in new york and new jersey, president-elect obama a $2 million house. let's go to -- >> yes it would be. >> the next stop florida. how do you say this town's name?
>> myaka flax fellow. it's my favorite house of the week. this is amazing. you're buying six acres with your own private lake. this is three bedrooms, 2 1/2 bathses. 3,000 square foot home. it's got a beautiful wrap around front porch. it's got a wonderful open floor plan inside. very spacious. lot of light. it's got a big kitchen with a center island. >> why am i here? >> exactly. why where are any of us here. it's also what's great? you got on this property not only do you have a wonderful house itself, but you get a zip line. you got a lake. your own private dock and stable for three horses. unbelievable. >> right, so you can fight crime on that zip line. and they already set the table so i might as well move there. thanks so much. >> they're waiting for you. >> i'm definitely living in the wrong part of america. thank you for joining us today. >> you got it. four minutes before the top of the hour. coming up straight ahead remember when senator marco rubio got killed for taking a drink of water?
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good morning. today is friday, january 16. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. the president opening the gates at gitmo, letting terrorists go free. this morning we know why. because it's to blame for islamic extremism. >> it would also be unwise to neglect the fact that our -- the prison at guantanamo bay continues to inspire violent acts around the globe. >> really? so is america really safer with our enemies back on the battlefield? >> makes sense. >> meanwhile, a rec center in michigan is under fire for daring to show fox news on their tvs. yep. apparently two people didn't like that and complained and our
viewers are doubling down. this morning they have started a movement. look, we're on that tv and that gym right there all across america, folks. >> allall right. we brought you this story first and you fought back. this morning huge update on duke's university plans to play the muslim call to prayer from the christian chapel. we're not going to give it away yet because this is a tease and i have a slogan to give you. mornings are better with friends. ♪ ♪ >> there is a lot of bulls today here at "fox & friends." mechanical bull and a real bull on the plaza. it's all because the professional bull riders have
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>> it was a hot costume. lone ranger was a hot costume. >> i liked it. >> thank you tonto. we kick things off with a fox news alert and heather nauert. >> brian, it's always great to see that picture of you as a lone ranger. >> i guess so. we keep seeing it. >> good morning to you all. one day after we learned that the u.s.-led air strikes in syria are not working against isis, the u.s. military announcing that it will send 400 troops to the region later this spring. the purpose of that is to train those moderate syrian fighters. fox news contributor major pete hegseth who trained troops in iraq says that americans cannot allow for a safe haven in syria for isis. >> we've made iraq the focus. we like to look at borders and geography of borders. isis doesn't see them, so they flee to syria use it to train and our air strikes have been inconsequential in rolling them back. >> our troops will head there later this spring. another developing story to bring you. a dozen people were just
arrested near paris in connection with the terrorist attack there that left 17 people dead last week. the nine men and three women are now being questioned over their links to the gunman in the kosher supermarket massacre. french police believe that they had supplied him with weapons and also cars to carry out that attack. back here at home my body is on fire. those were some of the last words from a convicted child killer who was just executed overnight in oklahoma. charles warner was killed by lethal injection overnight. he showed no signs of physical distress. this was the state's first execution since a prisoner died during a botched attempt at that last year. it was just announced that the iowa senator, joni ernst will deliver the republican response to president obama's state of the union address next week. senator marco rubio, no stranger to this, he is now offering his congratulations and a little advice for her joking have plenty of water before, not
during. you may remember his 2013 rebuttal went viral after he paused for a gulp of water. and those are your headlines. >> she's great. >> she's been on the show a bunch of times. >> thank you very much. the president has made it very clear, he wants to close gitmo. congress won't let him. the american people would like to see it open, keep the bad guys there. the president has got a scheme and this is it: he can close it on his own if one by one he let's the people out. he let five more out this week. as it turns out yesterday ed henry was talking to josh earnest. one of the reasons they're doing this is because, let's face it, gitmo is a symbol. it's a recruiting tool for the bad guys. here is the exchange. >> literally a week after terrorists with ties to yemen at least one of them trained by al-qaeda in yemen, killed at least a dozen people in paris how could the president release five more gitmo detainees original low from yemen?
>> because there was a unanimous recommendation from his national security team that steps could be put in place to insure that when these individuals are transferred, that we can significantly mitigate any threat that they have to the u.s. for our interests. i can tell you that only 6% or so of those transfers have been suspected of -- or have been confirmed to have rejoined the fight. >> isn't that still a problem? 6% of these detainees wind up going back into terrorism could kill people in paris or washington. >> it is. and it's certainly why this administration continues to pursue a very aggressive counterterrorism strategy, at the same time, ed, it would be unwise to neglect the fact that our -- the prison at guantanamo bay continues to inspire violent acts around the globe. >> right. i know none of those things would happen in paris if it wasn't for gitmo and i'm sure the '93 bombing wouldn't have
happened if it wasn't for gitmo. and the uss cole wouldn't have blown up because of gitmo. >> what about the world trade center? >> you got to be kidding me? at least ask yourself, when in the history of war have the enemy ever been let out to fight again? there is no even guys going to be rehabbed. there is no situation where they're going to go back to jail. they're allowed into a country that borders yemen the birth place of bin laden and the group that takes full credit for the blowing up of that magna paris. >> just a week ago this all happened. >> yeah. they got to spin it somehow. this is the best they got. close it down and the problem goes away. >> and blame us. >> but it's an insult to the american people to think that they can spin it at this level. >> it's an insult to the american people when news organizations, mainstream didn't even cover it. so you think okay. the worse of the worst are being released, they're going to oman, going to yemen, which is many terrorist got their training. you deserve to know, but nothing on nbc. nothing on cbs.
and 35 seconds, a whopping 35 seconds on abc was given to this, about those who want to kill americans in the west are being released. >> they're one of the reasons you guys watch fox because you want all the news. we do our best to bring it all to you. yesterday our top story was this, the great university, duke, down south had decided from that chapel, from that bell tower, what they were going to do, today at 1:00 o'clock is they were going to broadcas the muslim call to prayer. here is the thing that got a lot of people unhappy about it. there is no amplified christian message. there is no -- none of the other religions are represented on an amplified way from that chapel. so it just seemed like they were including the muslim faith but they were excluding all the others. you know what? a lot of you made your opinion known. a lot of people contacted duke and they have done a 180. >> they moved it to another
location. so they're still going to have the prayer but they're not going to have it at the chapel and not amplifying it as of right now. the spokesperson said this. >> by the way if do you want to pray at the right time, you can get a watch. here is -- >> in college, kids are praying all the time. every time there is a test. >> right. very good point. here is what the spokesperson said. it was clear that what was conceived as an effort to unify was not having the intended effect. last night sean hannity did a great job of getting a student who agreed and disagreed. they sat close together and spoke out loud. >> i consider myself a christian at duke university and i was saddened that they had to cancel the call to prayer and fast because in my view, christianity is a religion of love and love for that neighbor and part of that means -- >> what about people that are -- >> i'm very glad thankful that the university reconsidered
their decision to play the muslim call to prayer every friday and they have heard the voice of not only students, but alumni and the public at large. >> okay. so they have reversed because of the backlash. also wral says there was a credible and serious security threat. they say that's why it was reversed. >> it's great to see these two students sitting there even though they disagree. but just being civil and have a real conversation. what about this in terms of offensive, there is a big controversy in ann arbor, michigan. we talked about it earlier this morning. you talked to a couple who said that at their recreation center there, that someone -- they were told they couldn't watch fox news because offensive. >> my friend laura, who lives in ann arbor, told me about the story. not long ago, they have a dozen televisions there. and as it turns out, fox news was on four of them. it really bugged the webbers who work out there. so what did they do? they said look we're going to bring in the aclu, we're going to have a petition. we don't want fox news there because we find it offensive.
well, as it -- and then their petition says this, as taxpayers and paying members of the mary lou murray recreational center we request the removal of fox news and any other partisan political news programming from our public facility. so what they were doing they found fox news offensive and so they wanted to censor fox news despite the fact that if it's on four tvs, obviously a lot of people want to watch us. >> here is a statement from the park commissioners. the we knowers have every right to complain. however, public policy should not be fashioned in a reactionary manner. and especially not a response to a small handful of people voicing disagreement. fox news was made available after years of repeated requests from members so the decision stands. >> we had a chance -- steve, you spoke with two members there. this is what they had to say about the situation. >> the rec center is partially funded by our taxes and everybody in ann arbor is paying a portion of those taxes.
so it shouldn't be aimed towards any one group of people. ann arbor is an extremely diverse community. >> yeah. by the way, the webbers, the couple that wanted fox news off completely, they wanted them to turn on instead msnbc because they feel that that is fair and balanced. >> that will be a lonely channel switch. what are you saying about that? have you been locked out? has this happened to you in the past? we asked to you send in your pictures and here is what you're saying. you can watch it here. here is bryce watching from lubbock, texas. >> very nice. >> and nicole said that she ran eight miles this morning watching "fox & friends" in virginia. >> and here we are bringing you the news at humphrey's gym in celina kansas where i grew up. fantastic. i just got an e-mail from somebody named steve ramburg out in oregon and he said that during a hospital stay in december, he discovered there was no fox news on the private room tv.
so for an upcoming surgery on his spine in two weeks, he will commute over 100 miles for a four-night recovery at a hospital that actually has fox news channel. thank you very much. >> i tell you what, i had it on during my surgery and recovery and it got me through. >> you decided to watch? >> of course. i requested it just like i've been doing for years. >> she's got the fox news tv app. >> sure do. thanks for the photos. you just heard that the white house is not worried about the guantanamo bay detainees released this week for some reason. but peter johnson, jr. says it's history -- if history repeats itself, we're in trouble. >> hey kids, how about milk to wash down those chicken nugget as soon as one fast food place dropping soda from the menu. ♪ ♪
our president says al-qaeda is just a shell of what it once was. there is no need for gitmo anymore. now that five more detainees have been released, it looks like he's closer to fulfilling that campaign promise. in fact, what happens when these terrorists are back, released into the world? peter johnson, jr. has found out and it's not pretty. >> it's pretty disgusting.
it's so-called recidivism rate, meaning once they're let out, will they go back and do the same thing again? out of 614 transferred detainees, 104 reengaged in terrorism. another 74 are suspected of doing so. and so that's almost 30%. that's a 29% rate of confirmed or suspected reengagement in terrorist activities based on the federal reports. that's staggering. so a third of those people possibly suicide bombers. >> a third too many is what many would say. >> machine gunners, bombing a jewish grocery store, doing mayhem across the world and the united states. >> these are well-trained individuals. >> absolutely. >> can you give us examples? >> the worst of the worst. let's look at some of the specifics. the numbers don't really tell the story. one prior to capture was the leader of the an is ary request
in libya. in 2007, we lease to do libya. in 2012, participated in the benghazi attacks. >> awful. >> then another one, prior to capture believed to be a terror recruit. 2003 release to do turkey. 2008 charged as leader of the al-qaeda cell. prior capture he served as an al-qaeda travel facilitator. 2015 released from gitmo. and 2009 again, worked as an al-qaeda travel facility. becoming deputy leader of akap, died in the 2013 u.s. drone strike. >> i'm looking at those details there. it's if -- if history ever were to repeat itself -- >> history does repeat itself. the president is hell bent on closing guantanamo bay. he has been since 2008. he basically said the war on terror is over. it's just ramping up.
are these the folks that we want walking the streets of the world or should they be tried or should they be held indefinitely as we said that we would do with the worst of the worst? bad mistakes we're making. >> we're just letting them go seems disgusting as you started with. >> bad. >> wow. we'll operate history doesn't repeat itself. coming up, they tipped police cars and looted businesses in the wake of ferguson shooting. and we just learned that george soros, a liberal billionaire, was giving the protesters millions of dollars. so what else do we know about him? stick around. you're not going to want to miss that. and the slogan is just do it. but no, we're not talking about nike shoes. what people are being told they're being told to make more babies. ♪ ♪
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quick international headlines now. first stop, las vegas. u.s. coast guard hitting a major snag in the search for drug smugglers. they're using new super fast speed boats undetectable by radar. now we told everybody. pope francis announcing plans to name an american saint on his visit to the united states this september. the pope prays one of california's founders for his christian values. >> he learned the language of the people he served. he ate the food they ate. he wore simple clothes. the virtues he extols being a man of faith lived him in service. >> i had my money on drew brees. a hot news alert, make more babies. a danish town is telling its citizens to up the country's birth rate as part of the ongoing do it for denmark campaign. leaders promise to do keep
schools, nurseries and other recreational places in the towns open only if there is a flurry of babies. back to the action. steve? thanks. they tipped over police cars, set buildings on fire and looted tons of businesses in the wake of the ferguson shooting. just revealed the liberal billionaire who is giving them millions of dollars to protest turns out george soros funneled at least $33 million to organizations demonstrating the death of michael brown. so who is george soros? washington times investigative reporter kelly ridell traced the money trail and joins us now from washington. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> we heard of george soros. we know he made tons of money years ago betting against the british pound. but we had no idea that he was hyped the ferguson protests. why did he put his money behind that? >> he's been funding these social justice groups since the 1990s when he first put his
foundation together. it's part of his philosophical view that there is social injustice in the world and that america and its political perspective basically stands in the way of what could be global harmony and global community and true globalization. >> sure. >> so he's been funding these groups that are basically fueling this movement and what his ultimate goal is, and he stated this in his multiple books -- is to drive more people to the polls and to vote. he said publicly that he thinks there should be one party in america and that should be the democratic party. so by fueling these types of protests and the civic unrest he's hoping to engage a population that historically doesn't go to the polls and vote, to go to the polls and vote. but not only just to vote, but to vote democratic. >> sure. okay. if he's talk -- he's talking about social justice. but what about real justice? a grand jury looked at it and they decided there was no reason to indict that cop.
his message is colliding with law. >> his message is colliding with law, but it's really tapping into a fringe group or some of the way that these radical lefts and the way that they view society and the way that they want to change society and make it more equitable and social. so that's really what the spirit that he wants to tap into and kind of drive. to become a movement. most of these groups i talked to and interviewed said we want to take this moment and turn it into the next civil rights movement. >> sure. >> that's his goal. >> we've got a full screen we're going to put up that includes some of the funded groups by mr. soros, including move on.org center for public integrity, media matters things like that. and that's one of the things that helps him push this message of his is he's got a whole bunch of media outlets in his pocket. >> i mean, not only the media outlets, this is a very
sophisticated web that he has spun and put a lot of resources time and effort. you've got the people that he sends there to protest. you've got the immediate why outlets that are covering it. you've got social groups that are just monitoring the social media part of it. you've got civil rights protesters and engagers. you've got fundraisers. he hired a bunch of fund-raisers to help these local groups on the ground get money then build a social network get online forum and then engage them in participation and action. so it goes from the money, he's sourcing the money. he's getting the fund-raisers. he's got the media. he's got the civic community organizers, if you will. so it's a very sophisticated web. >> yeah. so grassroots not exactly. you mentioned community organization. turns out barak obama worked for soros group back in the day. kelly riddel there at the washington times, thank you very much for telling us more about george soros. >> thank you. coming up on this friday talk about a direct hit, a rogue
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28 minutes before the top of the hour. we have a fox news alert. president obama and british prime minister david cameron set to hold a joint press conference later this morning on the fight against islamic extremism and any other questions they will get. >> there they are on the south part of the white house facility. doug mckelway is on the north lawn and joins us live. doug? >> reporter: good morning. another visit by david cameron could not come at a more pivotal time, at a time when europe is ramping up the war on terror in europe, a time when u.s. air strikes against isis are proving not to be as effective as many hoped they would be. and when the administration has been under fire for a certain tone deafness when it comes to the world wide war on terror. in that context cameron is coming here, seeking something very, very specific. he's on record as opposing encription services that many american internet companies offer. even considering banning those american companies that offer encription from doing business in great britain. these services are more popular
than ever after revelations about the government spying on american citizens. but they also allow terrorists to encrypt their messaging. the white house remained pretty much noncommittal, trying to strike that elusive balance between privacy and security. >> i do remain optimistic that conversations with the british prime minister and in the cyber security summit a month later will allow us to make some progress in trying to fess out policies that will strike a balance. >> reporter: after the meetings in the oval office, they will have a press conference that's going to be short, one of the two plus two, two questions for each head of state. we may not get a lot out of it. but hope to learn more about it. back to you in new york. >> doug mckelway where it looks chilly, thank you very much. >> heather nauert has breaking news in the war on terror from overnight. >> that's right. we have two significant stories. the first in paris. in the second, in belgium. two suspected terrorists are
dead and 13 more are under arrest after a raid in belgium foiled their plan to murder police officers. take a look at how it all went down. police say the three men in that raid had apparent ties to isis. they opened fire as the cops swooped in. the two men killed recently returned from syria. back here at home, he is a bartender accused of trying to kill john boehner and this morning the speaker has something to say about it. >> it's one thing to get a threat from far away. it's another when it's three doors from where you live. >> the suspect, michael hoyt, has a history of mental illness. police say he vow to do put something in the speaker's drink. the fast food chain, wendy's, is cave to go demands from groups dropping all soda and soft drinks from the children's menu. instead it will offer milk,
bottled water and juice. mom and dad can still ask for a coke or sprite if they want to. talk about a direct hit, look at this. that driver in canada is lucky to be alive this morning after a tire into you down the highway and smashed right through his windshield. the tire shattered the windshield dented the car's frame, and broke the sunroof. the driver ducked when that tire hit. amazingly, he was not hurt. those are your headlines. >> it's a miracle he wasn't. thank you. you know him as medical examiner turned csi. >> he's headed to the big screen in the thriller called "the boy next door". >> i approved your request.
>> kevin? did you send an e-mail from my account? >> sounds like you've been hacked. >> you should change passwords. >> time to change the password. he joins us live right now. so in the movie jlo becomes obsessed with the kid next door who is obsessed with her and you're her boss? >> i'm the principal of the school. she's teach. there is the boy who lives next door. it's kind of like -- you guys are probably too young to remember the movie "fatal attraction". >> we know. >> it's kind of like a reverse fatal attraction. it's a psychological thriller. the believe is great. >> what animal do they boil in this movie? >> you got to watch the movie to see what the boy next door does. >> what was it like working working with jennifer? >> i love it. shah's true professional. she's great. she's one of the leading ladies in hollywood. she's one of the best business women in hollywood. >> why do you say that? >> because you look at the type of career she's built and she's able to go from being a producer
to also being in front of the camera, to actually setting up projects. >> smart choices? >> some people, if you can turn down $17 million to be a host of a show to go and do other things, you know you've made some good decisions along the way. >> go back and get that 17 million. >> she deserves to be back as a leading lady. this is her return. >> you're her leader in the role that you're playing here as a principal. but you're actually schooling kids now on money, which i love. i love that you from harvard, with your business degree, are helping the community with youngsters who can have a healthy discussion about money. we were talk being smart money and dumb money. >> so i'm doing a tour now in conjunction with the nba that's sponsored by mass mutual insurance. they've been around since 1851. they realize that they want to teach financial literacy to kids. so we're taking many of the
teams and we bring them into the stadiums. 3 to 4,000 eighth graders. >> that's smart. >> that's hard. it's hard to keep their attention. we're talking about smart money versus dumb money. when your head hits the pillow at night whatever you spent your money on that day it's either worth by the time you wake up, equal or more in value, dumb money is whatever you spent it on is worth less by the time you wake up. and trying to let them understand the value of compound interest savings delayed gratification, and all those ideas. >> why do you think school systems is so reluctant to talk about money, talk about the stock market and investment? >> i think it's couple things. first it starts at home. you think about it most people if you ask yourself, do parents really talk to their kids about their expenses their credit card debt, how much they earn? >> other than don't spend so much. >> it's an emotional conversation to have. >> a lot of emotion. there is a loft fear. so teaching kids, particularly from underserved community where
there may not be a habit of saving. many people are preyed upon, whether it's payday lenders, rent to own shops, heavy interest stuff. so the mass mutual smart challenge is that idea of teaching kids, there is a value in saving right now. many banks offer free students accounts. >> how do you make that case? if you're a parent watching and we have a lot of them right now and they'd like to get their kids to save burks it's hard to say, when you retire in 80 years, it will be worth it. >> we show slides and how money can grow. and the value of money. and start saving early. we use piggy banks and all this stuff. if you live in any of the cities, go to massmutual.com. see where we'll be on the tour and bring your kids. it's a free program. bring your kids down. 60 minutes of me yelling and screaming, running up and down the stands, talking about money. it's a lot of fun. >> it's around 7:00 o'clock, i might as well stay and watch the
game. >> just hang out. exactly. >> congratulations on this new movie "the boy next door." >> january hits theaters. straight ahead -- >> he's got to ride the bull today. >> there is a lot of bull on this show. >> if i don't tease, we're not going to have time. jeb bush's plan to fix the immigration system. >> the republicans want what obama wants on immigration. jeb bush agrees with it. chamber of commerce agrees. obviously the republican establishment doesn't want to stop obama. >> is rush right? the co-author of jeb bush's immigration plan joins us next. >> plus, we just heard it. brian versus the bulls. trust us you don't want to miss that one. >> that's matthew triplet. he's number three in the world. >> that's why he's a triplet
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as jeb bush keeps moving forward in his 2016 bid it seems for the white house, many conservatives have begun to criticize the florida governor for his stance on immigration. saying bush's plan is in the same vein as president obama's executive amnesty. for example. >> the republicans want what obama wants on immigration. jeb bush agrees with it. chamber of commerce agrees with t. obviously the republican establishment doesn't want to stop obama. >> so is jeb's plan really the same as the president's? joining us is the vice president of litigation at goldwater institute and co-author with jeb bush of immigration wars. it's clint folly. is your plan like president obama's plan, the one you co-authored with jeb? >> absolutely not. jeb was one of the first how have the box to -- out of the box to criticize obama. the president has no authority under the constitution over
immigration. congress does. is and so what obama has done is an abomination. >> is your plan like the senate plan? >> our plan has elements like the senate plan. for example, reducing the number of family preferences in our current system. two-thirds of our legal immigrants come not for work or skills, but for family preferences. that's a crazy system. >> i'm going to run through some of your key points and we'll build off it. you have a robust guest worker program. all foreign visitors, military resources at the border. give states larger role in policing illegal immigrants. these are some of the bullet points. where do you stand on the borrowedder and sealing the border first as opposed to doing everything at once? >> well, the best way to seal the border is to prevent the reasons why people are coming illegally. most people are coming illegally to work. there is not a functioning work
system. if we get that guest worker system into place, it will reduce the pressure on the borders. so i think you need to do both things at once much you need to deal with the supply side and the demand side. but nobody gets legal status until the border is secure. >> right. and in the big picture, too, you are not saying, like president bush 43, everyone's got to go home first and get back in line? >> basically, a major difference between jeb bush and the senate plan is that he would not have a path to citizenship. if people are here illegally they have to pay fines and they would not be eligible for citizenship. so it's not amnesty. this is -- people are taking the consequences for their illegal actions. >> all right. we'll have to see. i know it will be front and center as jeb bush gets front and center. thanks so much.
coming up, i had a chance to really stand out above the rest at our christmas party when i tamed a mechanical bull like it's never been seen before. it was in a bar. now i have the chance to relive that moment with the number three bull rider in the world. he seems happy to see me. first let's check in with bill hemmer, also happy to see me, to find out what's on top of his show. >> i was there that day you got on that bull. i thought you had the potential for a new career. >> really? >> that's why i'm looking forward to what's coming up next. >> i'm going to go now. >> see you brian. breaking news. polling on where americans think we have dropped the ball. it's a long list. major developments on sending american troops to syria. and what to expect from those now freed from gitmo. we have insight. martha and i will see you at the top of the hour
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is ♪ ♪ >> they call it the most dangerous eight seconds in sports. professional bull riders from around the world are in new york city today and this morning the number three bull rider in the world joins us, ladies and gentlemen, matt triplet! >> good morning to you. >> for the next three days you'll be at madison square garden trying to get yourself number one. but riding real bulls like that, is that one of the bulls you'll be bucking? >> yes sir. i think he bucks friday night. >> i've seen him giving you the eye. >> he's ready to go. >> so they grade your performance, plus they grade the bull itself? >> they do. they score us. we have four judges. one is how well we're in control, how well we style that bull out and then score the bull on how well he kicks and spins.
>> what do you have to have? extremely strong? a lot of flexibility? >> you have to be really flexibility. i do a lot of hot yoga. you got to be able to have a lot of -- >> you need padding onyour butt. >> brian is asking because he's about to take the challenge himself. he's going to get on the bull and i am going to get on the controls. >> elisabeth, take a stand here at the bull controller. take off his gizmo there. >> don't worry. i'll take good care of you. >> matt triplet is going to do some guidance. brian, why didn't you work this out ahead of time? time is money. >> brian was trying to be nice to me when he found out i was at the control deck for the bull. he's nervous. he should be. >> have you learned how this works? >> i'm going to start it off on slow right here. matt, what tips can you offer him in terms of the approach here? >> squeeze tight with your legs.
it helps to turn your feet out because if you don't, when you come forward, you'll -- >> are you ready? >> and you want to get closer to the rope. >> there you go. >> you can't touch the bull! >> you have to be ready to go. the bulls can go at any time. >> whoa. >> brian, we've got it on slow. we've got it on slow! what are you doing? that's medium. >> oh! oh! >> look, 21 seconds. you made it to the second level on there which is great. >> what's your assessment of his performance on the bull? >> did he a great job. 21 seconds. he only has to stay on for eight seconds. >> if i wanted to join the tour, how much work would i miss? like how busy would i be?
>> you'd be on the road all the time. we're gone every weekend. >> how would you feel about that steve? >> you could do it after the show. do you need an advil yet? >> anyone who wants to sponsor the pain i'm in will be fine. it's unbelievable. >> she went from slow, pushed the fast like that. >> i did. that's what friends are for. this is an official pbr right there. >> i would love to see him do it when we come back. >> one day soon. >> we're stepping aside. we got a lot of bull in midtown manhattan. matt, thank you very much. >> good job brian. ing] everything okay? we're here because you're about
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we told you today about one couple in michigan's campaign to get fox news off the public tvs inside a rec center in ann arbor and now you are firing back. allison from missouri sent us this picture. she turned on fox news for her predawn workout. as you can see there. >> that's great. david said "fox & friends" goes perfectly with the treadmill run for him. >> and brian says even his office in knoxville international guard base shows fox news. i would expect nothing less. >> keep the pictures coming of where you watch fox. >> also -- are you taking it back? >> this is what cool people do. they leave the tags on. >> a pack led about -- what's
coming up this weekend? >> blood test that promises to -- a father comes home to a home redone for his family. bill: good morning on a friday. there is breaking news on another major terror plot. police raiding a suspected hideout in europe saying the suspects were hours away from carrying out another paris-style attack there. [shouting] [gunfire] after that gunbattle two suspects are dead dozens arrested in that country and across europe as new fears of terror attacks sweep across the western world. a lot to cover on a friday. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to "america's newsroom." martha: good morning everybody i'm martha maccallum. a top terror chief
provide low cost reliable access to space is important. >> that's interesting. derek pitts, great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you, ed. >> that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton begins right now. good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead a major shift in american politics. for years, president obama naught to tackle income inequality. calling it the defining challenge of our time. and finally, republicans are getsing getsing the message. they're suddenly talks about ing about inequality, too. >> the top 1% under president obama, millionaires and billionaires he constantly demagogues. those are walk the corridors of power of the frbobama administration have gotten fat and happy under big government. i tell you, hardworking men and women across america are hurting.
>> well senator cruz is half right. average americans are hurting, but blaming it on president obama is off the mark. this problem is decades in the making. for the last 50 years, the bottom 90% of workers have barely seen their incomes rise. while incomes have exploded for the top 1%. increasing 271% since 1960. this problem has become impossible to ignore. that's why it's not just ted cruz talking about income equality, jeb bush has hopped on the bandwagon, too, and senator mcconnell, speaker john boehner, mr. budget cuts for the poor himself, paul ryan and the list goes on and on and on and on. all these republicans are paying lip service to inequality but they're not proposing real
solutions to fix the problem. president obama is. >> our job now is to create additional tools that number one, make sure that everybody's got a baseline of support to be able to succeed in a constantly moving economy, whether it's health care that survives job loss, whether it is making sure that we have childcare that allows two working household family to prosper while still caring for their kids. having a certain baseline in terms of wages through the minimum whaj. >> raising the minimum wage tax credits for childcare. these are real policies that could help workers, and the other thing, no republican would dare mention, taxing the rich. >> how do we make sure that the
folks at the very top are doing enough for their fair share? the fact of the matter is that relative to our post-war history, taxes now are not particularly high or particularly progressive compared to what they were say, in the late '50s or the '60s. you know there's always been this notion that for a country to thrive there are some things, as lincoln said we do better together than we can do for ourselves. >> until republicans start pushing real ideas to narrow the wealth gap, the talk about inequality will be just that. talk. joining me now is dana milbank and joan walsh. thank you for being here. >> hi reverend. >> dana is this step forward for the gop? is this a step forward or at least they're not talking about the 47%, right? >> yeah i guess that's progress, reverend i mean but there is something hilarious about ted cruz or mitch mcconnell thinking that they're
going to convince americans that they are the party that cares the most about income inequality. it's like putting an alpaca sweater on your little dog, rex and trying to convince america that he's a llama. it's just not going to fly. but, you know, more power to them for trying, because they're recognizing that the politics have changed and they're trying to at least rehetorically get in on it. you see it all the way on the left with elizabeth warren, now crazily enough you're seeing it with the likes of ted cruz. >> ted cruz is trying to blame the wealth gap on president obama. will anyone buy that? >> i don't think they will, ref reverend al. the thing he leaves out of the equation the top 1% is getting richer. however, this president has rayed the tax rates so that top 1%s they are paying closer to their fair share. it might not yet be their fair share, but he has raised the tax burden on those people and that does do something to reduce
unequalinequality inequality, not enough but you transfer some of that income to poorer people working poor people, you're narrowing the gap that way. and the president has been able to do that. he hasn't gotten there when it comes to bringing up the share of the wages. one thing i also thought was important he talked to ezra today, labor law, strengthening labor laws. >> that's very important. >> it's not going to happen without -- >> and they've been really at war with labor and the president really emphasized that. but let me stay on ted cruz a minute dana. because he's talking about inequality, but here are some of the policies he supports. repealing the affordable care act. instituting a flat tax rate. he's against a minimum wage hike and against equal pay measures. how exactly would any of this stuff narrow the wealth gap? >> no it would make for a far more regressive taxation system that would, of course make the
wealthy wealthier. now, there's a fair criticism to be said that even the things that president obama's talking about don't go far enough. that's certainly what you'll hear from the likes of bernie sanders. he's not really taking on the wealthy, he's not really taking on wall street because, you know let's face it the democratic party needs money to run campaigns almost as much as the republicans do. but, of course that's not the argument that ted cruz is making. it's just sort of turn the universe upsidedown. >> joan, let's also go to jeb bush, one of the loudest voices on the right. he's talking about inequality. listen to this from a recent speech of jeb bush's. >> today, americans across the country are frustrated. they see only a small portion of the population riding the economy's up escalator. roughly lyly two out of three american households live paycheck to paycheck. can we restore that dream, the moral promise that each generation can do better? >> now, he sounds like president
obama, joan but democrats says he's got a lot more in common with mitt romney. they flan toplan to talk about he opposed the auto bailout, wokrked in business backed wall street bailout and supports tax cuts for wealthy big business. how can he talk about inequality if he's seen as a romney 2.1? >> he needs to talk about it. i agree with dana, that's progress, this is a problem for the american people. that speech was shocking in how empty it was, reverend al. this is jeb bush, not, say, scott walker who has also empty policies. jeb bush we know him -- >> you expect more. >> you expect more. he's not introducing himself to the american people. we know him. he should have been introducing, this is how i will handle income inequality. how goes to detroit, all that he does by doing that is reminding the media that he did not support the auto restructureing. he doesn't take the opportunity
to say,thy this is what i would do for the city of detroit that has more than its share of problems. there was nothing about anything. just this notion that we need to grow yes, we need growth but we've seen growth both under president clinton and understood president obama. we've seen wonderful growth that does not do enough to close the wage gap. that's what we haven't gotten to. growth is not enough. >> but dana let's go the other side of the political partisan divide. i was reading in "the new york times" over the weekend, an article that says if hillary clinton runs in 2016 there are few policies that will definitely be part of her economic agenda. she'll push to raise the minimum wage invest in infrastructure and close the corporate tax loopholes. it is also possible she suggests incentives for companies that share profits with employees and push to strengthen collective bargaining. now, she faces some criticism for ties with wall street.
would these platforms help to counter that for miss clinton? >> you know, reverend i think they would counter it to a small extent. she is seeing much more than president obama as being very tight with wall street. and, of course, she's going to need him out tlrkshere, the campaign that's going to rely on these big dollar contributions. certainly those kinds of policies like obama's policies are a step in the right direction. a lot of progressives are disillusioned with the president but more so with hillary clinton and that's why they're the ground swell for elizabeth warren who doesn't show any indication she's running. >> that's the challenge, joan. the big fight in 2016 is going to be around economic inequality. and mrs. clinton has got to deal with the pressure from some of the progressives who frankly some have real questions and some of us have other questions. and, but she's got to have a clear voice to battle the
republican -- because this is going to be one of the most deciding issues in 2016. >> it is. one thing that that "new york times" article reminded us, she came out though she was a senator from wall street she came out in favor of closing the carried investor loophole. >> she did do that. >> i forgot about that. moratorium on foreclosures, several progressive things in the 2008 platform that i hope she brings back. i hope we see that hillary clinton in 2016. >> dana milbank, joan walsh. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks reverend. six months after the michael brown shooting a new push for justice in ferguson. but now the fight's about putting people in prison for being poor. also the investigation into that deadly accident involving reality star bruce jenner. and a new smear attack on the president by mike huckabee.
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now to the record-breaking snowfall slamming boston and much of the northeast. this is what it was like driving
around in cambridge, massachusetts, earlier today. in the last 30 days, boston has been hit with more than 60 inches of snow breaking records. in two weeks, enough snow in massachusetts has been removed to fill the patriots stadium 90 times. with the storm still passing through the northeast region what can residents expect to see next? joining me now from boston is msnbc's adam reese. adam you had a snow squall. can you explain to viewers at home what that is? >> reporter: sure, reverend. good evening. four storms as you mentioned in less than two weeks. now we're up to 73 inches. so a big problem for officials here is what to do with all the white stuff. well, they bring it here to a snow farm one of a few snow farms in boston. we're in south boston. take a look behind me. these mounds of snow some of
them are 40 feet and higher. trucks have been coming in all day long with piles and piles of snow. they bring it here. they bring it to the middle. these front loaders then take it over to the melter. they're bringing in melters from out of state because they have so much snow they need to melt down. some of the other snow is being brought to beaches south of here. along the coast. as you mentioned, 73 inches of snow. the governor says that they don't know what they're doing to do if it keeps piling up. he says like you said 90 times they could fill gillette stadium. he says they should have bid for winter olympics instead of the summer olympics as they did. reverend? >> how is transportation in the boston area being impacted adam? >> reporter: the airport, logan airport, was basically operating on a limited basis today. they canceled 500 flights, and in terms of ground transportation it was basically completely blocked out today.
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six months ago today the fatal shooting of michael brown in ferguson missouri put a new spotlight on criminal justice in this country. and today, a lawsuit is posing new challenges to police practices in that city and in the nearby town of jennings. created modern day debtors prisons. jailing poor people when they were, quote, unable to pay a debt owed to the city from traffic tickets or other minor offenses. in each case the city imprisoned a human being solely because the person could not afford to make a monetary payment. the suit argues the motivation is financial. ferguson has a population of 21,000 people. but in 2013 it issued 33,000 arrest warrants raising $2.6
million in fines and court fees. its second largest revenue source. one of the plaintiffs in the new lawsuit is tanya debarry, a 52-year-old grandmother. she says she was pulled over for a traffic violation in 2014 and jailed in st. louis county released after paying a $300 fine but instead of being freed, she was transferred to jail in ferguson where she spent two nights before shelling out another $300. only to be put in jail in jennings because of more unpaid tickets. >> just traffic tickets. no criminal act. nothing. just traffic tickets. if you had the money, you would never go through that type of situation. if you don't have the money, it's jail jail. >> late today, the mayor of ferguson issued a statement reading in part "we believe
this lawsuit is disturbing because it contains allegations that are not based on objective facts. joining me now is thomas harvey executive director and co-founder of art city defenders. one of the groups that filed this lawsuit. thomas, first of all, thank you for coming on the sew. >> thank you so much for having me reverend sharpton. >> the suit alleges modern debtors prison in ferguson and jennings. explain what's going on here. >> well, it's very much what you just described. people are jailed by the cities of jennings and ferguson because of unpaid debt. they are held there. they're not appointing an attorney. they're told that if they come up with a certain amount of money, they can leave that day. if they don't have that money, they're threatened with indefinite detention in the jail. these folks are not brought before a judge in the time required under law. they are told on a daily basis that if they only had $1,000
this day, $500 the next day, in sort of an arbitrary way, what they call a bobdnd is rediceuced from day-to-day. they have the money, they cabn get out and if they don't -- the conditions in the jail are deplorable. >> i want to ask you about that. that's one of the things that caught my attention. in the law, you describe the conditions. people were denied toothbrushes. forced to share a single unclean toilet. enduring untreated infections in open wounds. given insufficient food and water leading to weight loss and dehydration. surrounded by walls smeared with mucus and blood. i mean all for allegations related to a traffic ticket thomas? >> that's right. and to be more -- to be more poignant about it it's because they're poor people. if hay had the money, if you or i had a traffic ticket we'd never spend a day in that jail. if you're poor and can't afford
the bond can't afford the money, the fines, the unpaid debt, then you stay in jail. and the conditions are awful. our clients describe things that are horrific in nature. and they're taunted by -- they allege they're being taunted by the jailers and that they're told they could leave if they have the money. >> wow. >> but instead -- >> let me let one of the missouri residents that talked about the cycle of tickets and fines, and he's not included in the lawsuit, but he discussed it. listen to this. >> sure. >> i do get locked up and i go to court, they want you to pay a certain fine that i cannot afford to pay. i got a family. and because i can't pay that fine, i'm forced to be locked back up. and when i don't, go back to court, there's another $100 added so there's no way i can get out of it. they want their money. they want their money, and it's simple as that. >> doesn't that eat away at the trust in the criminal justice system? when people feel they're caught
in a web and they just continue to be dealing with fines and fees increasing every step they take, thomas? >> absolutely. i think that you know we make a claim that people were on the streets after the killing of mike brown because of traffic tickets. frankly, this is one of the factors that led to the erosion of trust between the community and its government. and this is a type of thing where people have been suffering this low-level harassment they're entire lives. some of our plaintiffs in this lawsuit have been jailed 19 and 20 times in their lifetime. >> wow. >> they're so accustom to being jailed as a result of their poverty, some find it difficult to remember which jail they were in on one day. for most folks in you're ever in jail, you know exactly that day. but it's such a -- it's such a portion of the culture in st. louis county to jail poor and black people because of their poverty. many of our clients don't even remember which days. we have the court documents to back up what they said. >> and not to be misunderstood,
if people do something wrong, they should pay for it but this is so out of proportion. this is way over the top, and i think six months after michael brown, to be looking at this shows the culture that all of us around the country are concerned about. not only there, but wherever this happens. thomas harvey out i'm of time but thank you for your tame tonight. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. coming up, will olympic athlete and reality tv star bruce jenner be charge in a deadly car accident? plus kanye almost did it again at the grammys. did you love it or hate it? former fox news host mike huckabee's comments on religion. why i'm calling for an apology, next. ♪ at kraft we start with
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at the national prayer breakfast, president obama offered a historical perspective on religious extremism by referencinge inging the christian crusade crusades. >> men have been grappling with these questions throughout history. unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the crusades and inquisition, people committed critical deeds in the name of christ. >> these remarks have stirred debate on all sides of the political spectrum but here's exactly what we don't need from former governor mike huckabee. >> everything he does is against what christians stand for and he's against the jews in israel. the one group of people that can know they have his undying, unfailing support, would be the muslim community. >> the president is against
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right now, california deputies are trying to get the cell phone records of the drivers. they say a woman in a white lexus rear ended the car in front of her. jenner jenner's escalade hit that lexus sending it into oncoming traffic where the driver was hit and killed. that driver did not have a valid license according to dmv records. jenner released a statement saying, "it is a devastating tragedy and i cannot pretend to imagine what this family is going through. at this time i am praying for them." jenner is cooperating and passed a sobriety test. no one has been charged. investigators will look through cell phone records to see whether anyone was texting. jenner's publicist says he was not. faith, let me ask you.
if records show jenner was texting, does it prove he caused the crash? >> well it doesn't necessarily prove that but it could prove that he was distracted and if he was distracted you could be looking at some type of vehicular manslaughter charge. however, i don't think that's going to be the case. there were photographers at the scene, and they took photos right before this car crash and bruce jenner had a cigarette in his hand not a cell phone. now, this crash, rev -- >> they took pictures right before -- >> right before the accident. that's what they the reporting is now and that he had a cigarette in his hand not a cell phone. he has consented to allow them to look through his records. this was three-car pileup at least. there was a prius, a first car that tried to push and stop short. the lexus, the car that the woman was driving, the woman was who killed, then stopped short and bruce jenner hit her car. >> right. >> now, california like most states they have a law that says you have to follow be a certain distance behind cars and presumably if someone stops short, you should be able to stop to prevent an accident. so while i don't think bruce
jenner's facing criminal charges, i think there could be some civil charges. >> he's definitely civilly liabel. >> what was wrryour take on the whole question of texting? >> if he was texting, he would be liable more than likely criminally as well as civilly because in california they have laws that discuss distracted driving which all these laws are being passed across the united states. because if a person is paying attention to their cell phone, looking at their phone, not paying attention to what's going on in front of them and he hit this lady from behind he would be liable for her death. >> now, pat, we're following jenner, as you talk about photographers. police say they were not responsible for the crash. if jenner is charged, how will that play into his defense, faith? >> well, of course they're going to look for all the mitigating factors. number one, the woman that he hit actually hit another car before he hit her.
so he's going to say it was unavoidable unavoidable, unavoidable, she hit a car. then he's going to argue, of course, paparazzi were around and somehow contributed. i don't see that happening in this case with a three-car pileup. >> his problem is going to be he has to have a fair distance between him and the car were tobefore to allow him to stop and he didn't obviously stop. >> i want to move to this domestic abuse charge charges, really dropped against nfl star greg hardy. this is a call that no one saw coming for the california parent. last year hardy's ex-girlfriend described a terrifying fight. she said he choked her with both hands. dragged her by her hair. screaming he would kill her. and he picked her up over his head to throw her onto a couch covered with assault weapons assault rifles to be exact. today as hardy showed up in court in north carolina, she was nowhere to be found. the local district attorney says
they have not been able to find nicole holder since november. he says he has reliable information that she reached an independent settlement many hardy. what's your take? is something like this common? >> it's very common reverend al. i've had cases where a lady has been assaulted and by the time he's at the jail they're hiring a lawyer to get him out. because most women just want the abuse to stop. it's not -- they don't want him to be punished. however, this case is a little bit different. she went to trial one time. she went to a bench trial. he was found guilty. in most jurisdictions you have the right to appeal to a jury trial which is what he did. >> which is what today was about. >> yes. >> let me ask this, faith. i want to lead to question i want to ask you. everyone wants know where nicole holder is because she had said she didn't want to go through another trial. the "charlotte observer" reports tonight snowmobiling in
colorado. then off to new york city. i mean is there a way to force her to testify? >> well, apparently the d.a. is saying that they tried to serve her with subpoenas to get her to come to or the. i'm shocked by this. this was a man who went to trial before a judge. she testified before. he was convicted. very serious allegations of domestic abuse. >> he was convicted. >> convicted. how do you today completely dismiss a case against him? i want to know they should be asking, has he been in touch with her? what about this civil settlement? how much money was she paid? when did they agree to that? it's very -- >> if she wants to take the settlement eric isn't that her right? >> it is her right. however, it's the state's case to prosecute and the state cannot prosecute without a victim in this type of case. there are domestic violence cases. >> the state could have questioned him, right? as faith is raising. >> no. >> because? >> no, sir, they could not. if a trial is not commencing -- even if a trial started, he has
a right not to testify and take the stand. >> because he's the defendant. >> yes, sir. we how old not have to answer any questions. he cannot ask him -- >> i think you can find her. >> they can find her. >> you can't tell me she cannot be found. >> they can always be found. >> i have to leave it there. eric faith, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you. still ahead, the alabama chief justice is trying to stand? the in the way of progress. some political advice for hillary from president obama's top political adviser. wait until you hear what he says she needs to do. social justice comes to the grammy awards. "conversation nation" is next. ♪ [epic music] ♪ introducing aleve pm...
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time now for "conversation nation." joining me tonight, msnbc's joy reid. the "huffington post's" noah michaelson. and msnbc's abby huntsman. thank you all for being here. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> did alabama's chief justice try to break the law in the name of states rights? last night, alabama chief justice roy moore ordered judges
not to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. just hours before federal ruling went into effect allowing same-sex marriages. this morning the supreme court refused to issue a stay to overturn the ruling and at least eight counties began issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. but the confusion has led judges in some counties to continue denying same-sex marriage licenses. like in shelby county where a sign on the courthouse door reads, "due to the conflicting orders, this office will not issue any marriage licenses for the immediate future." joy, is this states rights in alabama all over again? >> yeah it is. it's almost like judge roy moore is sort of the back to the future supreme court justice. the supremacy clause it's in the constitution article 6.
it says federal law supersedes state law and if the supreme court said you have to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, i hate to break it to you, justice, but you do. this is a stand in the schoolhouse door moment. it should be a no brainer for anyone calling themselves a judge. >> noah he -- the courts in alabama ruled -- >> uh-huh. >> they refused to stay it. >> yeah. >> so what's confusing about that to these counties that claim to talk about conflicting? there's no conflict here there's no stay on the order by the higher court. >> it's almost like no one's in charge in alabama. we're still trying to figure it out. even the governor, governor bentry won't say one way or the other what is supposed to go on. he said they'll support the probait judges. people are afraid to make a move. they're afraid if they go the wrong way, they'll get into trouble. instead of this being a historic day for same-sex couples, beautiful, hundreds of couples who want to get married, we're talking about swrus this moore
instead. >> people are confused. some people are still confused over this. i like to say just like we tell people, there used to be a time when blacks couldn't vote i will tell my kids and grandkids there was a time when gays couldn't get married and you see there are still places especially in the south. i'm from utah where it's 50/50 still. people are struggling with how fast we've been evolving on this. >> this clearly, abby, is going to change, and -- >> yeah. >> -- this is like the last breaths of existence. >> they're holding on as much as they can. >> the reason i brought it to states rights part of civil rights history, is joy confused wanting to be con fusefuseconfused. if the supreme courts say we're not staying it we're not staying it. what's confusing about that? the order stays. >> i can understand ordinary citizens being confused. anyone who has gone to law school which presumably this chief justice has understands the supremacy clause understands that once the supreme court rules there is no confusion.
civics class in seventh grade is where we learned about it. >> a lot goes back to religion. for many of the folks they can't separate their politics from going to church on sunday. >> i understand that. i understand that. >> that is what is bollpolling. >> i understand religion has been used wrong before. >> moore is on the record as saying homosexuality is evil. we know what he's talking about. >> it's a different kind of bias but they said interracial -- >> exactly. >> you cannot not deal with the law. if your religion you feel violated, break the law and suffer the consequences like many did with civil disobedience disobedience. let's move on to politics and advice for the front-runner hillary clinton. david axelrod who orchestrated president obama's political rise from the senate to the white house was promoting his new book today when he offered this advice if hillary does decide to run again.
>> she needs a very well-conceived message about where she wants to lead the country. i think she has to approach this campaign like a challenger not like a front-runner. like an insurgent and go out there and really make a strong case. >> run like an insurgent. abby, what do you make of that advice? >> interesting advice there. everyone is wanting to throw some advice to hillary clinton. they want to feel like they have a say in whether she wins or not. you know, i think the biggest thing for hillary clinton is being human. and being herself. and every time she talks about being a mother and being a grandmother, we already know she's smart, already know what she's capable of doing. we've seen her in so many positions at this point. the biggest thing for her is being who she is and real. the moment back when she ran last time when she had emotion, when she was cried. she was hit for that but i think a lot of people also were like, you are a real person, you are human and i like you more for that. >> but noah don't you get from axelrod's advice she's got to
also show some hunger and some drive and some i want this? >> definitely. she can't rest on the name clinton. i think that some people think she really has been so far, she's resting on her laurels and that's going to get her, you know, into the white house. i think that she has to come out hungry, has to only out strong and has a lot of people to convince still. >> joy, she can't use a rose garden strategy if she runs as a -- >> inevitability is her best friend and worst enemy because it can breed a sense of complacency and appearance of entitlement to the office and has to give people an affirmative reason to vote for her and not presume she's going to assume the office because she's next in line. >> everyone, please stay with me. when we come back we have to talk kanye. he almost did it again last night. and it drew a big reaction from jay-z. the panel reacts, next. ♪ nineteen years ago, we thought "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review.
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we're back with our panel, joy, noah, and abby. now to some big statements at the grammys. ferrell performing his hit song "happy" while he and his backup dancers dressed in hoodies posed with their hands up and in a rare appearance prince chose to make a statement as well. >> albums. remember those? albums.
still matter. like books and black lives. albums still matter. tonight -- >> beyonce sung a beautiful rendition of "take my hand precious lord." a favorite of dr. martin luther king. and common and john legend closed the show with a moving version of "glory" from the movie "selma." joy, i saw james brown make statements through his music. what's your reaction to last night? >> i think it was important, and, you know, there has been a fair amount of criticism of black artists, particularly hip hop artists for not getting out ahead further on things like the black lives matter movement. i think it does show that these artists are willing to use their celebrity. i especially thought prince's words were poignant to put that in. to show that they are part of this movement. and the hoodies obviously coming out of trayvon martin. it is important to people that artists make a stand on these issues that are so important to substantial shares of their fans. >> domestic violence was a big issue last night as well. you hear people that you are
fans of speaking out about it or talking about their own personal experiences and relates to people. to your point, joy, it can be so controversial they think about the timing. sometimes they're nervous about getting too out in front of it but i think sometimes it's smart to get out in front to show you have -- >> doesn't it also give a connection even if your fans may not agree that you feel and that you have -- you're more than something that is not involved and doesn't have a heartbeat as to what's going on? >> definitely. i think especially with music becoming so depoliticalized these days, to have people speaking up and talking out that resonates with viewers and like it one way or another. >> we can't talk about the grammys without talking about kanye's moment. beat out beyonce for album of the year and then it almost happened. [ applause ]
>> i need some help. come back. oh my god. >> kanye almost taking over the mike again in protest. years ago kanye had this infamous moment protesting taylor swift's mtv win over beyonce. here -- here might be the best part, though. the reaction from jay-z and beyonce is absolutely priceless. the horror quickly turned into delight. kanye played it off as a joke but after he said this -- >> the grammys if they want real artists to keep coming back they need to stop playing with us. beck needs to respect artistry and he should have given his award to beyonce. >> abby what's your take? funny or disrespectful? >> i don't even know what to make of this guy at this point. i think this whole thing was planned out. i mean we were talking in the
commercial break, rev, about how he's married to the biggest self-promoter there is as well. you wonder what the two talk about at night. it's clear he planned to go up there. when you hear what he said after, something that struck me he said you know the awards are not going to artists that excite people are get people into music. i disagree. it depends on the artist. i love taylor swift. blame me for that. i like beck. >> it's tacky for him to attack another artist and say beyonce should have won over beck. as with ee were saying, he's launching his new adidas collection this week has a new album coming out soon new rihanna album coming out soon. this is a tactical movement to get in front of people. >> by the way, the most tweeted about person or moment from the grammys last night was kanye west. >> he didn't win anything. >> and he even got noah to announce his adidas line and his -- >> we're talking about him. here we go. >> tonight on "politicsnation." >> we're talking about him who.
>> who would have thought? joy, noah abby thanks for joining me tonight and "conversation nation." make sure you watch the "reid report" weekdays at 2:00 p.m. eastern. and abby on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 p.m. eastern. both right here on msnbc. when we come back, remembering legendary basketball coach dean smith and his winning ways off the court. to be this expert negotiator to get a fair deal. i hate to haggle. when you go to a restaurant you don't haggle over the chicken parmesan. why can't car-buying be like that? ♪ ♪ as long as people drive cars carmax will be the best way to buy them.
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medal of freedom in 2013. >> we also honor his courage in helping to change our country. he recruited the first black scholarship athlete to north carolina and helped to integrate a restaurant and neighborhood in chapel hill. that's the kind of character that he represented on and off the court. >> that character had a lasting influence on generations of basketball fans and players. >> coach smith made me feel like i was like every other athlete on their team. and i say, again, for a black person in the south to feel like he was the equal of a white person means more than anything else. >> coach smith supported civil rights and gay rights. he opposed the death penalty and the iraq war. he stood by his beliefs which he said were rooted in his religious faith.
2, chris kyle day. set your dvrs so you never miss an episode of "the five." >> "special report" coming up next. >> let's talk about vaccines some more. the president sends a $4 trillion budget to congress complete with $320 billion in new taxes. republicans call it envy economics. this is "special report." good evening. welcome to washington. it's safe to say that on this groundhog day we have way more than six additional weeks of battles between republicans and democrats to look forward to. today as president obama unveiled his new budget republicans saw the shadow of huge tax increases and more spending. chief congressional correspondent breaks down the numbers and the politics. >> reporter: president obama's
$3.9 trillion budget proposal for fiscal year 2016 arrived on capitol hill. the president sold the package at the department of homeland security. >> we can afford to make the investments while remaining fiscally responsible. >> reporter: gop note it never balances including a spending increase and tax hike and adds $8.5 trillion to the national debt. >> there are so many positive things he could have done instead of phoning in another tax and spend manifesto. >> reporter: speaker boehner blasted as being more taxes and more spending saying it may be groundhog day but american people can't afford the repeat of the same policies of the past. one of the old policies is the so-called death tax. the states double taxed with capital gains and inheritance. the president drew this line in the sand on the automatic cuts known as sequestration which he
called mindless austerity. >> it would be bad for our security and our growth. i will not accept a budget that severs the vital link between our national security andnic security. >> reporter: two years ago mr. obama suggested that cuts would be catastrophic. >> if the sequester is allowed to go forward thousands of americans who work in fields like national security education or clean energy are likely to be laid off. >> reporter: a report found only one federal employee in the justice department was laid off and other departments and agencies handled budget cuts with brief furloughs. this man says the president should look in the mirror. >> remember who was the author of the sequester. it was his idea to do it in the first place. if it was mindless consider the source, i guess. it was not good. it hurt us in the areas where we should not be cutting and that is in the area of defense and
national security. >> maryland's chris van holland says more money for national defense is one of two areas where there could be common ground. >> one is the area of investing in infrastructure. the president has a plan to get rid of some of the tax breaks that encourage american corporations to send jobs and capital overseas instead use the funds and savings to invest in jobs and infrastructure here at home. >> reporter: the chairman of the committee agrees infrastructure and national security could be areas of agreement but says the commander in chief must do more. >> number one priority for members of congress and executive branch is keep america safe. we call on the president to defind what the mission is. tell us what the strategy is and we will fashion a budget to fit that strategy. >> reporter: republicans see the president's plan as backwards looking and catering to political interests on the left and doesn't seem to reflect reality of majorities in the
house and the senate. >> thank you. stocks were up today. the dow gained 196. the s&p 500 finished ahead 26. 24 nasdaq brought in 41. president obama is pushing back on criticism of his policy against isis terrorists. correspondent kevin corp tells us the president wants to be seen as taking the high ground in a battle with political overtones. >> reporter: a familiar refrain from president obama, don't play politics with america's safety. >> they usually don't agree with me. don't jeopardize our national security over this disagreement. >> reporter: the disagreement with gop lawmakers over extending funding for dhs. a catch 22 for democrats on the hill forced to choose between backing the president's executive action on immigration or fully funding the agency. the speech a day after the commander in chief offered a full defense of his foreign
policy strategy. >> if we don't have inside of iraq or syria or afghanistan the capacity and will of people to fight for themselves then any gains that are made eventually dissipate. this takes longer but it is the right way to do things. >> reporter: the president citing measurable improvement. al qaeda under pressure and a growing coalition helping to fight terror in and throughout the region. all with fewer american boots on the ground. >> and the president talked about in the state of the union address that when he came into office that we had 180,000 troops overseas in iraq and afghanistan. we are down to 15,000. >> reporter: down at a time when critics say the exact opposite should be happening. the threats of isis al qaeda and boko haram all surging. >> i think that the president has set an ambitious and i think under current circumstances
unrealistic goal when he talks about our intent being to destroy isis with the means that he has approved so far i think that's an unattainable objective. >> reporter: the president rejected calls from republicans. >> i don't quibble with labels. i think we all recognize that this is a particular problem that has roots in muslim communities, but i think we do ourselves our disservice in this fight if we are not taking into account the fact that the overwhelming must just of muslims reject this ideology. >> tomorrow the president hosts a cabinet meeting amid calls for less involvement abroad at a time when the world seems to be getting more dafgerous by the day. >> it seems isis is not immune to political fighting either. a counter terrorism source says
isis leaders are trying to regain control of their public message. we are told followers were warned that four accounts were authorized to speak on the group's behalf. we learned a few minutes ago that boston's mayor has postponed the city's parade for the super bowl champion patriots from tuesday to wednesday. much of the northeast and the midwest are buried under up to a foot and a half of snow tonight. >> this guy is going to push it. >> reporter: this is the kind of snow storm that can bring you to your knees. digging out across the midwest and the plains from a blockbuster winter storm that stretches out to the east coast. places like hard hit boston and areas of new york still digging out from a brutal blast last week. >> that is bad. that is real bad. >> reporter: constant snowfall and 40 miles per hour winds
created whiteout driving conditions across much of the midwest including nebraska where at least two people died in separate traffic accidents. record breaking snowfall sent new records in detroit to more than 16 inches makes this the third worst snow storm in motor city history. at its heaviest snow fell at more than an inch an hour in chicago. the blizzard ranked fifth among monster storms and dumped a blanket of up to 19 inches. >> first accidents in a five mile trip. >> i haven't gotten stuck on the expressway but i definitely slid a few times. >> reporter: the politics are fraught with consequence for those in office. chicago leaders know too well shovel the streets quickly or face political heat. sitting mayor faces reelection later this month. he is keeping his administration out in front of the storm. >> people were able to take public transportation, main streets were clear. we are moving on to residential streets and make sure they are
clear and get everything salted and removed. >> reporter: the good news is plows are scooping up heavy snow in places like chicago. the bad news is the midwest and east are bracing for more and it is just around the corner. >> live in chicago tonight. thank you. up next we have a new leader in the republican presidential race. we'll explain. first here is what some affiliates are covering. fox 5 in atlanta where interstate 75 and 85 through downtown were closed in both directions for about three hours after a suspicious device was found. police sent a robot in to investigate a pvc pipe duct taped to the concrete wall of a bridge. the situation made the traffic situation worse. officials detonated the pipe. the investigation continues. fox 6 in milwaukee and a painful groundhog day for the mayor. says jimmy the ground hog
whispered to him that spring would come early and then he took a bite out of the mayor's ear. jimmy's handlers say the mayor got it wrong. >> this is a live look at austin, texas. the big story is a declaration of chris kyle day in texas. governor greg abbott signed the declaration. the movie has been a huge hit across the country. kyle was born and lived in texas. he was fatally shot in a north texas gun range two years ago. that is a live look outside the beltway from "special report." we'll be right back.
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correspondent carl cameron. >> reporter: a new 2016 republican front runner in the polls in the state of iowa. wisconsin governor scott walker tops the latest survey. kentucky senator rand paul is one point behind. mike huck aby is third. new jersey chris christie and texas senator ted cruz all in single digits. more than half view them favorably. jeb bush is four points under 50% and way more view chris christie unfavorably than favorably. walker is drawing support from antiestablishment conservatives. >> he is trusted by the political people and is liked by the tea party faction of the party because of his battle for balanced budgetts. >> reporter: a governor with limited foreign policy experience he was talking tough
on the sunday shows. >> i think when you have the lives of americans at stake we have to be prepared to do things that don't allow those measures. >> reporter: chris christie is on a trip to london, asked about vaccinating more children he said his kids are vaccinated but parents should have a choice. aides clarified christie believes all kids should get measles measles vaccineuations. huck aby raised eyebrows. he made a comparison. >> i don't drink alcohol but a lot of my friends do. i don't use profanity but believe me i have a lot of friends who do. >> reporter: on the democratic side the president predictively
punted when asked to pick between secretary of state and vice president. >> hillary clinton or joe biden love them both. >> are to try. >> clinton insiders say she is leaning towards the new york city of queens and can do it within two months. >> the time is coming. the comments highlight the disconnect between conventional medical wisdom and parents who decide not to have children vaccinated. james rosen looks at both sides tonight. >> measles is preventable. i understand there are families that in some cases are concerned about the effect of vaccineation vaccinations. >> reporter: in an interview president obama weighed into the debate over vaccinations after measles outbreak. >> are you telling parents to
get kids vaccinated? >> reporter: it was all but eradicated 15 years ago. more than 95% of kindergarten children receive vaccines last year. in california more parents opting out. >> the places around the country that really require that the personal belief be deeply held have a much higher rate. >> reporter: some have been influenced by celebrities like actress jenny mccarthy who cited scientific research since discredited. barack obama suggested the links could be real. others belong to christian sects opposed. it was to those group republican governor chris christie of new jersey may have been appealing with comments made. >> i understand parents need to
have a measure in choice. that is a balance the government has to decide. >> reporter: aides clarified there is no question kids should be vaccinated. >> the state is well saying if you are going to attend our schools you have to provide proof of immunization or valid reason why it wasn't done. >> reporter: the first decade of this millennium saw 16 outbreaks. last year an outbreak alone in ohio produced close to 400 cases. >> thank you. do you believe the government should force parents to have their children vaccinated? let me know at facebook.com/bret baier or on twitter. still ahead whatever happened to all of those savings we were supposed to get from obamacare? first, president obama considers whether the u.s. should become more involved in ukraine. [ narrator ] mama sherman and the legion of super fans. wow! [ narrator
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the white house refused to confirm it plans to send aid to ukraine. >> we are assessing what sort of options are available but i certainly don't have anything new to announce. >> reporter: senior officials say the issue is under review as eight former national security advisers urged president obama to provide $3 billion in antiarmor missiles drones and armored vehicles to ukraine. among proponents michelle flornoy. only if the kremlin knows that the ri costs of further military action are high would it seek to find an acceptable political solution. three former secretaries of state delivered a similar message last week on capitol hill. >> we do have to help them in terms of military assistance so that they can defend themselves.
people do look at how we react when one country invades another and takes a piece of territory. it is breaking the international system and i think it is important to take a strong stand there. >> reporter: former soviet leader warned the west could be turning a cold war into a hot one. >> i think that is a testament to the bad decisions that mr. putin is making. >> russia's foreign minister responded. >> translator: the rhetoric shows intention of washington to do everything possible to support actions of current kiev authorities. >> reporter: leaks at the white house is considering arming ukraine and are reminiscent of similar reports about the administration arming the opposition and the arms slow to materialize.
>> thank you. the washington navy yard building that was the site of a deadly mass shooting a year and a half ago has reopened. about 400 employees of the command began reporting to work at building 197 today. it's been given a new layout and appearance since the shootings which left 12 people dead and 4 injured. the shooter was killed by police. next a beer and a history lesson with president obama. the world is filled with air. but for people with copd sometimes breathing air can be difficult. if you have copd, ask your doctor about once-daily anoro ellipta. it helps people with copd breathe better for a full 24hours. anoro ellipta is the first fda-approved product containing two long-acting bronchodilators in one inhaler.
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rather than sitting down for a hard news interview nbv opted to put tough questions on hold and interview the commander in chief in the white house kitchen. the president divulged he enjoys chips and guacamole. >> we make beer. first president since george washington to make booze in the white house. >> historians were quick to point out our first president has been falsely accused. while he did make his own alcohol he did so at his own home, mt. vernon. john adams was the first occupant. the error went unreported. the research center says if george h.w. bush made that mistake it would have been a different story.
it under lines the certainty that republicans just aren't very smart. in their minds barack obama is a genius so they just pretend it never happened. finally a courthouse melee sent a trial into emergency recess thursday. the culprits were dozens of bats. the local newspaper reports people ducked and screamed as the animals swooped in while court was in session. court was moved elsewhere. the judge says bats have been an ongoing issue there. pest control was called in today to deal with the problem. this is a fox news alert. the house is scheduled to vote tomorrow on the latest bill to repeat the president's health care law. the administration is signaling this evening it will veto that bill if it makes it to the president's desk. no surprise there. tonight we look at one of president obama's big promises about his health care law that it would result in all of us saving money. we are told what the numbers
say. >> the average american family is paying thousands of dollars in hidden costs in their insurance premiums to pay for what's called uncompensated care. >> reporter: obamacare the president promised would change that. >> that will save us all money in the long term. >> reporter: savings bill kramer doesn't see it. >> this is creating an enormous burden for employers, for employees and families and for taxpayers. >> kramer buys insurance for big companies. he admits -- >> that amount of uncompensated care has been reduces. there is more revenue flowing into hospitals. >> why isn't it showing up in consumer's pockets? >> i don't think an average american can expect premiums will go down. you can only hope that your premiums won't go up as high year over year as they used to. >> reporter: that is obamacare
supporters' argument. health care inflation is lower than it would have been although the calmommonwealth fund says by one point. >> nobody thought health insurance companies were all truestic before the aca and no reason to believe they will be now. they have shareholder concerns. >> reporter: shareholders are happy. hospital profits are soaring as millen yns who didn't have insurance do. on average medicare reimburs 86 cents for every dollar a hospital spends caring for patients. on top of that hospitals continue to provide a significant amount of care for uninsured and under insured patients. the congressional budget office has 36 million people today and 11 million a decade from now will remain uninsured and even
though it will generate billions in penalties it will cost taxpayers $1.3 trillion. do not expect to see what goes on in the u.s. supreme court anytime soon. justice kagen told an audience in chicago she is wary of anything that could upset the dynamic of the institution. she points to members of congress and how now they play to the c-span cameras instead of interacting with each other. president obama sends a $4 thrill yn budget to congress. republicans call it envy economics. we will talk about it with the panel after a quick break. know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience
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put politics aside pass a budget that funds our priorities at home and abroad and gives middle class families the security they need to get ahead in the new economy. this is one of our most basic
and most important responsibilities as a government. so i'm calling on congress to get this done. >> we basically see the same thing every year. it focuses on growing bureaucracy instead of opportunity. it doesn't balance ever. and because it isn't designed to pass congress of course it doesn't pass congress. >> it is groundhog day and also budget day where the president's budget arrived on capitol hill. here are break downs of numbers. it is almost $4 trillion. you have 3.525 trillion in revenue. $474 billion deficit. $283 billion in interest payments. what it also does is it goes past the dreaded sequester cuts. remember that was set up across the board cuts in 2011. just to refresh everyone's memory here is what the administration said about the
sequester back then. >> if the sequester is allowed to go forward thousands of americans who work in fields like national security, education or clean energy are likely to be laid off. firefighters and food inspectors could find themselves out of work leaving our communities vulnerable. >> once the airline sees the potential impacts we expect that they will change their schedules and cancel flights. >> i don't think we can maintain the same level of security at all places around the country with sequester at without sequester. >> we think it is as many as 40,000 people will lose jobs. >> that did not happen. there was a deal between democrats and republicans but all of the skies falling did not happen. it hurt some people though. let's bring in steve hayes, juan williams. charles, of all of those who were supposed to lose their jobs
the government actually reported afterwards that one person one lost his job in the federal government. look, i don't mind if the president sends a budget which he knows is not going to achieve anything. when he prefaces his remarks by saying we have to put politics aside posing again as the one person in the country who rises above partisanship and party and speaks for the national interest it is graded. the budget he gave he knows will not pass. it is entirely a political and partisan document. it's a way to present liberal budget choices in a way that are fleetly unacceptable but a way to frame the debate in the future. and when he talks about the mindless austerity of the sequester this is austerity? the bumg he presented is a half a trillion dollars of deficit.
never in our history did we have a half a trillion dollars of deficit. he tells us we are in prosperity and recovery and still has half a trillion of deficit. he calls it austerity. this is a spending budget. the republicans are not going to accept it. and rather than use it as a starting point for the bargaining on the budget it should be completely ignored, let the republicans start from scratch. >> the president calls it middle class economics. i think what you are seeing here is pretty much the argument we experience for the next two to three rearsyears as we go into the campaign. unlike charles i think this is let's make a deal. i don't think a budget is sent up from any president that is supposed to be taken as a whole and don't argue and let's not negotiate. you want to negotiate. i think the president has set a marker here. and i think he has a partner in paul ryan. i think paul ryan is saying yes
to things like expanding earned income tax credit right now to people who don't have children. i think he is interested in corporate tax reform. the president has proposed lowering corporate tax rates down to 28% from 35% and 25% for manufacturing. i think ryan is interested in trading some of that, potentially the president is, too, for infrastructure. this is where you can get a deal. when it comes to sequestration i mean it seems to me that you have generals right now who would be willing to jump in front of bret baier to get on camera time and say this is hurting our national defense. >> just generals, many republicans who side with the pentagon on this saying it is devastating to the military and frankly it does split the republican party on this issue of budget hawks and hawk hawks. >> to some extent.
i think most republicans don't agree with that and it is fight we haven't seen fought ferociously. i agree that this is a political document meant to start an argument. this is middle class economics as he puts it. he is making his best case. i don't think that these are particularly compelling arguments that he is making. if you look back to 2012 the country disagrees with me or huge chunks of the country disagree with me on that. where republicans didn't do well in 2012 was not setting up an alternative, not making an alternative argument. paul ryan is going to do that. the republican budgets are coming. if i were advising republicans i would have said come into the congress. you are new. come into the congress and lay
something out. >> i think it is hypocritical. i think it is smart. if you want to look at how the media covered this the media are covering it like they have a chance and addressing it on terms. they won't do the same with republicans and obamacare but republicans shouldn't sit around and sort of wine about double standards so much as come up with alternative philosophyfillphilosophy. >> i think that is right. don't you think that is right? the republicans should not allow
bm to set the marker. why should obama set the marker on spending. present the case because other wds wise you are arguing to mitigate the disaster that would be obama tax hikes. whenever you hear the word investment remember all it means is spending. it's the new word for spending. president obama defends himself over isis.
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isil we are not creating another situation in which we are deploying massive numbers of u.s. troops. those who want us to shoot first and aim latertypically get this country into really bad situations. >> i think that the president has set an ambitious and i think under current circumstances unrealistic goal when he talks about our intent being to destroy isis with the means that he has approved so far i think that's an unattainable objective. >> the president, his former defense secretary president saying they are doing everything they can to fight isis. we are back with the panel. we start on foreign policy. >> the president says those who want us to shoot first and aim later. we have been having this debate for several years certainly it has been more than a year since the president called them junior varsity. it is typical of the way the president has addressed this
problem. he thinks he is succeeding if he keeps ground troops out of iraq or syria. success is destroying and defeating isil. what secretary gates was saying was that wasn't unobtainable given resources that president obama approved. until he does we are going to be stuck exactly where we are. >> to savannah guthrie's president she pushed back against the strawman thing where he says hundreds of thousands of u.s. troops in syria or iraq. there is no one calling for hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground there. >> the question would be is it possible to speak to former secretary gates?
is it possible that through the use of partnerships intelligence sharing offering the support in terms of missiles that the united states can build a structure of defense that would push back and destroy isil. the former secretaries of state were on capitol hill, that they really want to see us lay out a strategy that makes sense that gives everybody a road map for where we are going. we don't have one right now. >> i think there is a strategy but obama won't say it. he pretends that the strategy is to destroy isis because he has to, because when he didn't, he really got savage from all sides. but there actually is a strategy implicit in what he is doing. that is you roll back iraq, slowly but you don't do anything in syria of any importance. so, what he is doing -- what the strategy actually is unspoken but you can interpret the movements that we are doing on the ground
in this way we are going to try to say, for example recapture mostly, that -- mosul that will be the objective the following year to roll them back in iraq but leave them essentially unmolested in syria because if you want to actually accomplish that, then you have to have a major ground war. you leave syria, i assume for the next presidency. i'm not approving of the strategy but that is the strategy. >> but you can't take isis out if you don't take out isis in syria. >> that is my point. the objective is enunciated ask s. a false objective. that is not the objective of this administration it is containment in syria, roll back in iraq. that's exactly what he is doing. and the tragedy is that we would have had the option of doing the roll back had obama not liquidated all the positions of strength that we n 2011. the air bases, the intelligence, the tremendous influence that we had on the
government in iraq and on the kurds and elsewhere. but he gave it all away and now we are starting from scratch. that's the tragedy at the root of this. >> the president has a line that we can't as a country continue to play whack a whole around the world. that's what he says. now there is a strategy on ukraine sending in arms or lethal weapons to ukraine. and it seems like there is maybe a change in policy there. >> yeah. maybe. we heard the same thing about syria early on and we know that took forever to actually come to fruition and in reality we have never seen the kind of strategy arming the opposition the way that the president once rejected and later embraced. i think the problem when you talk about ukraine the administration's approach to ukraine is they are having -- you listen to the administration spokesman the ambassador to the ukraine and is he worried about the russians violating agreements that were reached in -- we are so far beyond that point. as if they are worried about
the niceties of diplomatic language and, you know violations of their word here. meanwhile you are seeing the russians continue to step up. their support of the separatists. support actually carrying out some of the fighting. it's as if the administration doesn't want to see what's actually happening on the ground because it would be so evident that resources that we're committing to it would be inadequate. >> juan it's clear that putin has not been restrained. even though his economy is clearly hurting. >> yeah. look, according to all reports from all banking agencies around the world, the russian economy is now below credit grade, it's trash. and you also have the oil shock hitting that economy at this time. but, you know that's why i'm listening and i'm thinking, wait a minute, the anger here should be directed at putin who is playing domestic politics, trying to build up russian egos by going at ryu rainy. it's a challenge to the world not just the united
states. the president said you don't want to see a war between united states and russia. i think it's between the world and russia. >> noble is add we indicating a war against russia which is what obama presented as the alternative. everybody, starting with the president of ukraine for the last year hab begging him to simply supply the ukrainians with defensive weaponry. incomprehensibly obama denied that but now apparently he is getting a report from 8 experts delivered today, three of whom were own administration saying that's obvious and necessary policy. i i think he might actually do it a year late. >> that is it for the panel. stay tuned to seat results of our all star panel super bowl predictions.
finally tonight we try to make sure we go back and see how each panelist has faired on predictions for policy and politics here in washington. well last week we asked our panelist to make super bowl predictions.
>> 31-17 patriots. >> i think we have a replay of last year and i thinked that the seahawks win and it's not even close. >> i must say that this -- the football issue has been the source of the best pastries in a decade. i think it's to be celebrated. >> i'm going with seattle, low-scoring game taking, i think under 34 points. seattle by 7. >> the prediction wasn't on there. but, charles and steve got it right with the new england victories. so we have the big congratulations full screen super bowl winners. however, charles was closest picking new england by 3. >> i was off by one which proved that i am not infallible. >> two years ago he got it right on with the baltimore ravens by three. >> i used to be infallible.
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the terrorist organizations. i'm confident as we have for two centuries, we will ultimately prevail. and part of what gives me that confidence is the savagery of these crimes. to work together to these organizations. >> and it's provoked debate here at home. how to describe isis and groups like them. >> there's been a fair amount of debate in the press and among pundits about the words we use to describe and frame this challenge. so i want to be very clear about how i see it. al qaeda and isil and groups like it are desperate for legitimacy. they try to portray themselves as religious leaders, holy warriors under the defense of islam. we must never accept the premise
that they put forward. because it is a lie. nor should we grant these terrorists the legitimacy that they seek. they are not religious leaders. they are terrorists. [ applause ] >> they are terrorists. and that's why the u.s. is pounding isis in iraq and syria and why the president has submitted a war powers request green lighting the use of special forces. and yet at this serious team we're also seeing republicans return to the kind of rhetoric we haven't heard since the bertha era. it's a poisonous atmosphere where a gop congressman actually feels like it's okay to say the president is on the side of isis. >> we have a commander in chief who seems not only not willing
to work collaboratively with what i would say is the enemy of freedom and of individual freedom and liberty and western civilization and modernity. he might use it to further their cause in what seems to be his cause. >> a sitting member of congress accusing the president of the united states of trying to further the cause of isis. it's stunning. but we're hearing a lot of this from republican politicians. >> you've got a president who i don't think is committed to the war on terror. i don't think his heart is behind it. >> my concern is that the president doesn't have the fortitude that is remembered to what needs to be done. >> i don't believe that the president really wants to prosecute a war that would truly destroy isil. >> the president doesn't want to
destroy isis? his heart's not in it. this stuff has seeped back into the groundwater on the right, back to things that we thought were behind us. now, one conservative website is even claiming the president flashed a muslim gang sign at a recent summit. it's ridiculous. america's confronting a serious threat and it's going to require a serious and united american response. joining me now is congressman andre carson democrat from indiana, the first muslim american to serve on the intelligence committee. and jonathan capehart "the washington post." thank you both for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> congressman, your response to the president's speech? >> well i thought the speech was a powerful speech. i thought it was a very important speech. the administration released its
first cv strategy in 2011 and they've been working with many leaders who were present at the summit today in a way that helps to foster a greater understanding and cooperation in terms of pushing back on extremist activities. there's a growing concern that the emphasis has been too heavy on muslims but i think at a time when we have folks who are claiming to be muslim and claiming to be islam that are committing violent acts against fellow human beings, it's time that the muslim community comes together and say that enough is enough. >> now you are a member of the intelligence committee. you're an elected member of congress. i've been at the district with you in churches there. >> that's correct. >> and you're a practice muslim. >> yes, sir. >> is there anything in islam that justifies or calls for the
kind of behavior that we've seen from those that have identified themselves as isis or isil? >> absolutely not. islam means peace. of course any religion has examples of those claiming or purported to have committed violent acts throughout its history but i think that's a small small fraction and it's unfortunate that it takes a small fraction of extremists who claim to be muslim to misrepresent the faith that is so peaceful. you, reverend have worked with muslims throughout your career. i know in my own community growing up in the inner city watching muslims take control of their communities, doing what law enforcement had failed to do in keeping communities safe and pushing out drug activities. >> now, if the president,
therefore, made this even by inference, seem like a war against religion or a particular religious group which you practice rather than a war against terrorists as he said would he not risk deeply offending some american who is practice a religion that you do that does not at all require or call upon or condone this kind of activity? >> oh without question. i think whenever you step out there boldly in that kind of way in an official capacity you risk offending some people. and given the history of the muslim community's relationship with law enforcement, relationship with the government dating back to j. edgar hoover's intelligence program, many in the black community warned the immigrant muslim community decades before of the kind of relationship that is all too often been transactional, reverend it has been a cover to spy on communities. and the president noted that in
his speech and i command him for being bold and doing so. >> jonathan the president is prosecuting a serious effort against isis and yet you have republicans litter low accusing him of fighting for the other side. what's your response to that? >> well it's outrageous. anyone who would say that the commander in chief of the united states would side with an enemy, side with an enemy so brutal really doesn't deserve to be an elected official. i mean it's outrageous to hear a sitting member of congress say out loud that he thinks that the president is working against people who would love nothing more than to destroy this country. and what that -- that clip you showed of congressman perry of pennsylvania shows the hope that the craziness and silliness and the bertharism and the tea party
folks that swarmed capitol hill in 2010, that that was going to go away with the 2014 congress because there were reasonable members of the republican party elected to the house, we now know that's no longer the case. we are still back to having the president not only battle enemies of the country overseas who want to not only bring down the united states but just western civilization he also has to deal with some republicans on capitol hill who still to this day, six, seven years into his tenure as president of the united states still questioning whether he loves this country and whether he will do everything possible to protect this country. >> you know congressman, the president rejected the idea that the west is involved in some sort of holy war and also called on muslim leaders to reject that idea. listen to this.
>> we are not at war with islam. we are at war with people who have perverted islam. just as those outside of the muslim communities need to reject the terrorist narrative that the west and islam are in conflict i also believe that muslim communities have a responsibility as well. >> congressman, why is it important to talk about this as a fight against terrorists and not just as some epic clash of civilizations. >> well i think there's been too much of an emphasis placed on the president's use of phraseology. but folks of goodwill be it catholic muslim christian must
come together and take a stand and make a stand and acknowledge if you go in any major courtroom, you can find a muslim attorney or muslim attorney. go to any major hospital and you'll find muslims. they are making investments in our country each and every day. the question becomes, how can we as americans who believe that our country is a melting pot will say that we will not stay with those who are islamicphobic and when there's only a small section that misrepresent the greater muslim community. >> at the same time jonathan stand firm against islamicphobia but stand against terrorism and
these people are beheading people. they are taking people's heads off and you use that to take a cheap shot at the president? >> yeah. i mean, the whole tenure and tone of the debate, especially around the isis or isil has been discouraging. the president's remarks that you played earlier were very important where he said we're not going to battle against religious leaders. they want us to legitamize them and if everyone would take that to heart and all those in the many i had dell east middle east who are beheading people and killing people all in the name of what i don't know. they might think that they are
doing this in the name of islam, in the name of allah, but we all know the truth. the president has been trying to get that across and i hope today they got that message. >> and i hope that he did as well. i hope people got it. and if you can't rally around the president, jonathan at least rally around what is decent and what will preserve human life but rise above this partisan bickering when we're dealing with this kind of element that wants to distort religion. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you for your time. coming up awkward timing. jeb bush tries to distance himself from his brother as we learn the architect of the iraq war is not on his team. plus a twist in that road rage shooting in las vegas.
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are shaped by my own thinking and my own experiences. >> he's his own man. he won't be w. 2.0. that's great. that includes former secretary of state james baker, you may remember him as bush's man in charge of the florida recount. the guy who helped get him into office. another jeb adviser, paul wolfowitz, one of the architects of the iraq war. the one who wrongly claimed that
iraq oil would pay for it all. he doesn't disagree with his brother's foreign policy or apparently anything else his brother did. check out this claim from the dnc that they dug up today. >> what's your biggest political disagreement with your brother? >> i will tell you that i'm the only republican that was in office when he was in office and as president that never disagreed with him. and i'm not going to start now. why would i do that now? >> no. not one time did you call up and say, don't do that? >> i'm not going to start now. till death do us part. >> no disagreements? then or now. joining me now, msnbc's joy reid and abby huntsman. >> you showed paul wolfowitz there. the problem for jeb is that in a sense they were more his than
george's. remember when he was running for governor for florida. >> we're talking to a floridian expert. >> i moved to florida in 1997. >> so you know everything that you need to know about jeb bush. >> he was an original signator. the co-signatories this idea of multiple theater wars, going in and invading iraq that including richard pearl, scooter libby. >> who he has advising him now? >> exactly. the neoconservatives will be inescapable for jeb bush because he's seen more intellectual in the family than his brother george and he was there in the
neoconservative fold before george bush was. >> i get why he wants to make a distinction between himself and his brother but can he realistic do that? >> i come from one of seven children. i'm the first to say that you can be different from your siblings and parents. when you look at these group of advisers there are not a lot of people that understand the complexity of foreign policy that understand our world on the world stage. he has folks like tom ridge who are not neocons and some of the smartest minds in the business. i think he said it right. totally he said it the right way. he said look i admire my dad and brother in my service to this country but i am my own man. he's making it clear, regardless of who he surrounds himself with, whether it's his family or add vicersadvisers time changes and he's going to have to identify
where those changes are. he hasn't said where he is. >> i'll get back to you on that. joy, he says he doesn't want to talk about the past but look at his advisers. >> that's right. the neocon piece of it is very important. if you were to ask jeb bush if you were president of the united states after 9/11, would you have invaded iraq? it's going to be hard for him to distance himself from that question. >> or he's going to have to start criticizing. >> exactly. >> let me go back to what you had said abby. you said that he is going to have to distinguish and decide where he's going to be critical. he did criticize some of what his brother did but then turned it into a critique of president obama. listen to this. >> there were mistakes made in iraq for sure using the intelligence capability that everybody embraced about weapons of mass destruction turns out not to be accurate.
not creating an environment of security after the successful taking out of hussein was a mistake. but my brother's administration through the surge, there was no support for this and it was hugely successful and created a stability that when the new president came in he could have built on to create fragile but more stable situation that would not have allowed for the void to be filled. the void has been filled because we created the void. >> so abby iraq is unstable because of president obama, even though president bush led us in there, into war? how does that work? >> this is going to be the beginning for jeb bush. he's going to have to answer a lot of questions simply because he's george bush's brother. what he's doing here and correct me if you disagree i
think he's already running in the general election. he's letting everyone know the sort of guy that he is he's talked about using drugs in the past. that's the jeb bush that we're seeing and the question is is. >> apath way for success? my dad was open about who he was and was able to disagree with people. my dad came in late and came from serving the democratic president. jeb bush has name recognition and support on the ground in some of the primary states. so the question is can he make it to the general election? >> and can he drag not only the baggage of his name but the identifying with the policies that are parallel with that name? you can say as you, i'm a child among seven. you can't say, and i'm going to have everybody to advise and guide the other six on my team.
>> right. >> without saying wait what's going on? and he says oh no that's the new president's fault even though my brother brought us into iraq. >> and think about it one of the things that brought george w. bush down is the elements that were not necessarily in his pocket before and they dragged his presidency away from this low-key foreign policy that he was going to do into these neoconservative ventures. jeb bush was for that before his brother was. the other thing, if you unpacked what he said he's saying the surge was heroic. this was an attempt to not be necessary and after all that loss of life and destruction, it was a hail mary to try to get us out of the mess that george w. bush got us in. so is he saying that the idea of invading iraq is okay but not continuing in iraq forever and ever and ever. >> but his big problem -- and
i'm out of time -- the big problem, also is going to be getting by the primaries and the other republicans among us. >> and i hope he stays true. he does not seem like the guy that could pander that would hurt him. i hope he stays true to who he is. >> he's got three problems. a general, primary and thanksgiving dinner and he has to be careful how he deals with the members of his family. joy reid and abby huntsman thank you for your time tonight. watch joy on "the reid report" on msnbc at 2:00 p.m. eastern. and stick around right after that for abby on "the cycle." still ahead, the stunning twist from the road rage shooting in vegas. was the victim out looking for her killer before she died? also we'll look at the man in charge of stopping the next white house security breach. can he fix the secret service?
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almost hit her. a daughter reached over and honked the horn and an argument broke out. but there's some new information we're learning in this case. after that argument meyers drove home dropped off her daughter and picked up her son who had a gun. they followed the other driver for about ten minutes and went back home. but when they got there, police say the other driver pulled up and started firing killing meyers, her son brandon fired back without hitting anyone. at a vigil for meyers last night, brandon said he would do it all again. >> i did what i had to do to protect my family. everyone can think what they have to think. i did it for a reason. and i would do it for anyone all over. >> she did everything she possibly could to protect me and i love her so much.
>> the sketch is the best hope police have for identifying and finding the shooter. but faith, if they do find him, does he have a case? could self-defense be a factor? >> i don't think so. there's so many questions here. how does this family go home and then she picks up this -- moms picks up her son who has a gun. how do they find this other car who they have an argument with and follow the car for ten minutes. >> right. >> and then how does that person in that car then get to their home? i'm assuming they followed this mother and her son back to her house. here's the issue with self-defense. you can't pursue someone who is retreating, even if there's a dispute, rchlev, if that dispute is over and this mother and son went back home -- it's over they went back home you can't then pursue them shoot and kill a person and then say oh i had to defend myself.
self-defense is about you being in eminent fear of great bodily harm or dying. >> if the son says they threatened that they were going to come back and i had to kill them before they came back. >> guns make people super bold. this woman went home and got her son with a gun, then went after this guy. they are totally at fault because she didn't call police. she didn't -- she didn't alert the authorities, hey, someone was harassing me. she went to the fight. now, i don't know if his self-defense claim will hold up but he definitely will have some mitigation being that they came after him first. >> well we don't even know -- all the police said is that the son had a gun. we don't know if he brandished it. >> this is beyond following. they went home and got the gun.
>> but the son said i did what i had to do i would do it -- >> which makes no sense. >> the inference is if i'm the shooter and i'm caught he admitted he did something. >> they followed whoever the shooter was for ten minutes. what were they doing? driving around stalking this guy? it makes no sense. >> was he waiting on them? >> there's more to the store row. there's more facts that will come out. >> let's move on to the american sniper trial in texas. today was the first full day of testimony for eddie ray routh and his defense team. his lawyers have to convince a jury that he did not know right from wrong when he shot the movie's real-life hero and his friend. today, his sister testified that routh was not himself when he came to her house after the shooting. she says he was talking about pigs sucking his soul. at first she didn't believe him
when he said he killed two people. routh pleaded not guilty to killing chris kyle and his friend chat littlefield in 2013. the friends agreed to meet routh at a gun range to try to help with his ptsd. eric how's the defense doing? >> the defense is doing a decent job. when you look at the totality of the evidence they have the murder victims texting back and forth saying this guy is crazy. then they are presenting evidence that he was not himself and they are going to present more evidence i would suspect that he had ptsd to the level for he did not account for his actions. so it's a very interesting case to say the least, because there's so many factors involved in it. ptsd, they are war veterans and i think they are doing a pretty decent job. >> you know eric you mentioned the texting and a key moment
came when the defense in the opening statement claimed routh's insanity was evidenced in those texts, that kyle and littlefield sent right before the shooting. after meeting routh, kyle sent littlefield a text, "this dude is straight up nuts." littlefield wrote, "he's right behind me. watch my six." that's military talk for watch my back. how will that help the case? >> it's definitely going to help the defense case. that speaks to the defendant's state of mind right before he shot and killed kyle and his friend. and it's not just like one piece of evidence like that text message. what the defense is doing, they are building. they have their fact witnesses, like the defendant's sister they are putting on first to speak about his state of mind. >> right. >> and then you have the two individuals who were killed who spoke about his state of mind he was not in the right frame of mind. and then you are going to have the experts who will come in and
talk about he was in the middle of a psychotic break. the jury is going to find i think, that this guy did suffer from a mental illness and the question is going to be did he know what he was doing was wrong when he pulled the trigger? >> well we're going to keep following both of these big cases. i'm going to have to leave it there. eric guster and faith jenkins, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. straight ahead, hollywood star kristen bell speaks out on the vaccination debate. and jimmy fallon kicks off year two on "the tonight show." conversation nation is next. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 60,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. and i earn 5 times the rewards on internet, phone services and at office supply stores. with ink plus i can choose how to redeem my points. travel, gift cards even cash back. and my rewards points won't expire.
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it's time for conversation nation. joining me tonight, radio host stephanie miller democratic strategist jimmy williams and msnbc contributor maria teresa kumar. thank you for being with me tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> the gop's reaction to a court ruling from a republican-appointed judge temporarily blocking president obama's reaction on immigration. the president's executive action would keep millions of undocumented immigrants from being deported. but that hasn't stopped the gop from trying to reverse it. ted cruz spoke about it today.
>> this victory this week, the de decision from the federal court was a meaj juror victory for the rule of law. all of us have reason to be proud that texas led the way, standing up to president obama's illegal and unconstitutional executive amnesty. >> maria, it's an historic executive action. 5 million people are impacted and the gop is touting this guy as a hero? what do you make of that? >> i caution them when it comes to being so giddy. when you're talking about this it's unprecedented but he's not the first president who has ruled temporary rule of law. this dates back to eisenhower and every president successfully has used their discretion to testify what group will have
temporary relief. this is pretty much the only thing that the president can do right now. again, it's temporary relief. >> jimmy, aside from the legalities, which it is temporary, politically, i mean the republicans really want to act as though this judge is a hero and this temporary stop is something that will help them politically? >> well senator cruz who is actually an immigrant, he was born in canada so when he left another nation and moved to the united states as an immigrant and became a u.s. citizen because of his parents, what happened there is he is now a naturalized person right? he's now an american. that's a fascinating thing because that is not what president obama's executive order actually did. all it did was say, you cannot separate an american-born child from their parent who was not born in a foreign country. it's really that simple. so that's the legality of it. you asked me about the politics. they are simpler. if the republican party is going
to put ted cruz, not mccarthy, up as the spokesman for immigration reform they are making a massive mistake. by 2040 there will be 100 million more latinos in the united states not by birth but by immigration. he will be an old man by that point and when that's the case he'll be like oh i know the majority of country. that's not the way for the republicans to expand their base. >> stephanie, your read on this? >> well let me say that ted cruz gives me a giant headache in my eye. and i think other republican colleagues share my thoughts on that. he's on the right side of history with this. most legal experts say he's well within his authority and i think that's the way it's going to play out and i think, you know everybody makes a good point about demographically, they are on the wrong side of this on the wrong side of human
compassion, of families. >> all of it? >> all of it. >> let me move on because i want to cover a couple of things in the time we have. i want to move on to celebrities speaking out on the vaccination debate. it's become a political hot potato for republicans, like chris christie and rand paul. but hollywood star kristen bell is telling the world, if you're not vaccinated, stay away from my family. bell says she insists that anyone who wants to hold their baby must have the whooping cough vaccine saying quote, it's very simple logic. i believe in trusting doctors, not know-it-alls. stephanie, a big celebrity speaks out. your take on this? >> i'm out here in hollywood and it drives me insane. you can't cure an infectious disease with kale.
a jahoba oil is not going to do the trick. these are diseases that we have erradicated already. this is ridiculous. >> reverend this is really a high-class problem. you have countries all over the world, third world countries that mother also walk miles to get their kids vaccinated and high-five to kristen bell. it's exactly the conversation that we need to have and the leadership that we don't have normally coming out of washington, we're not having that leadership. we're having it out of hollywood. >> that's an excellent point of others walking -- stay with me. we'll be right back with jimmy fallon changing late night one year after taking over "the tonight show."
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steels steals the nash comes up behind him, we have the coolest, funniest president ever. i'm sorry. >> i think that's right. he bridges generation and demographics and he knows what funny is and that's basically what is the root of his brilliance, is that he's able to do that. >> and he's a genuinely nice guy. >> he really is. >> stephanie, jimmy maria, thank you for joining "conversation nation". >> thanks, reverend. one of the toughest jobs in america was filled today. that's next. and set out on their own. they believed in more, than the assembly line. they believed driving was a holy endeavor. a hundred years later, the dodge brothers spirit lives on.
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on could not play. he was just another guy out there. >> all right. terence moore, sports columnist, thank you for joining us tonight. it's an exciting time for high school players to know where they are going to go next year. congratulations to all of them who got that done. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight in chicago. tonight's lead if you thought republicans had a serious alternative over president obama's agenda think again. today, one of the top contenders former governor jeb bush went to detroit and gave what was supposed to be a major speech on the economy. but instead we heard the same old talking points attacking the safety net and slamming the president on ill interrogation.
>> he's gone beyond his constitutional powers. that creates greater doubts as well. president obama likes to say, you play by the rules. but for president obama, one of the rules is this. he reserves the right to change the rules. instead of a safety net to cushion our occasional falls, they have built a spider web that traps people in perpetual dependence. >> the safety net traps people's independence? that's to attract voters who were mr. 47% in 2012? and there was another problem for governor bush today. a deep irony in his decision to roll out an economic agenda by visiting detroit, a city whose economic engine the auto industry, he once said should have been left to go bankrupt. >> to report what the president did in bailing out general
motors, i don't. i think it's been way overplayed, the difference between a more traditional approach and a controlled bankruptcy. >> here's the bottom line. president obama has a record of lifting the country out of a deep recession. and now he's outlined a bold vision for how to fight inequality and move america forward. that's what republicans are up against. but from the 2016 field to the halls of congress the gop is clearly a party still searching for answers. joining me now is congresswoman donna edwards of maryland and jonathan capehart "the washington post". thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> whether it's jeb bush or john boehner, do republicans have any real solutions for issues like inequality or immigration or health care? >> well the short answer is no. and listening to jeb bush today,
it's so sad to see him go to the bank bottom of the republican party with the same words but nothing with an action or agenda. and you can see that in the agenda right now. the president put up in his state of the union message, a message about hopefulness for people, dealing with things leak affordable child care and college tuition and creating jobs through infrastructure and republicans are still stuck to their same old tired, bankrupt agenda but does nothing for the middle income americans. >> jonathan capehart, he made a prediction about how the country would do under the gop leadership. listen to this. >> and for what it's worth i don't think the united states should settle for anything less than 4% growth a year. at that rate the middle class
can thrive again. >> 4% growth? now maybe he's forgotten about the other bush economies. under his dad's presidency, the economy grew at 2.1%. under his brother, it grew at 1.6%. is this a problem, jonathan for his candidacy, that all of his statements will be measured by his family's record? >> measured by his family's record because he's a son of a president, the brother of a president. but what he says will be judged by the other president's president, clinton and president obama who, you know come in between those two. look, it's really difficult and actually not quite smart, i don't think, for candidates to make predictions about where the economy will be and how much they can deliver and how quickly because it's a recipe for failure, especially if your prediction does not come true. and many times -- i mean how many times did we talk about and
did republicans slam the president for making predictions early in his first term about green shoes for the economy digging its way out of the recession? hammered time and time again. i don't think it's a smart idea to do that. i mean maybe they are thinking that if we put a number out there, then we're being bold and we're being dynamic and in our prediction that again, sets yourself up for failure. >> congresswoman, house republicans, as you know voted against -- again to repeal the affordable care act. but today we learned 9.9 million people have now enrolled in plans in 2015. beating expectations. house republicans have now created a working group to come up with an alternative to the affordable care act but they claim to be working on an alternative for years. listen. >> my guess is sometime this
fall you're going to see an alternative solution from the house republicans. >> after the first of the year we'll bring forth a bill that will be able to unite republicans around specific health care issues. >> they have introduced 126 ideas about how to fix obamacare and how to replace obamacare. >> we are working on this. we have a lot of different views. >> so the bottom line is they've got no alternative, yet they want to repeal this law anyway despite the fact it would deny millions of americans' health coverage. >> well, that's right. and actually for the first time on the 56th vote to repeal the affordable care act, the republicans also lost three republicans on that vote precisely because they don't have an alternative. i mean listen here's the reality, 9.9 million people who now have health care hundreds of thousands of young people who can stay on their parents' health care plan eliminating
the requirement that you can only get health care by not having a pre-existing condition. these are taking advantage of the affordable care act. the republicans don't have any ideas for health care. they don't have a replacement for health care. and the fact is they don't even have a replacement for the way that the president has grown this economy. 11 million jobs out of a deep recession, 58 straight months of job growth. the republicans really don't have any answers and democrats are saying you know what, we're putting concrete proposals on the table that are going to grow paychecks and improve the lot of the american middle class and republicans have -- you know what's that score? zero. >> jonathan how do the 2016 candidates handle the affordable care act? their campaign? i mean we talked a little about jeb bush. how does he and the other contenders handle the affordable
care act issue? >> well they are going to say that it needs to be repealed. some of them might even say it needs to be repealed and replaced. we'll have to listen to what that -- >> will they have to come up with a specific plan though? >> well the point i'm getting to rev, they are going to be forced to come up with a plan at the end of it is term in june renders invalid the subsidies of the health care exchanges, which would completely gut the affordable care act and suddenly you might have the situation where millions of americans, 9.9 million americans that congress was just talking about. and to repeal the affordable care act is without a replacement there and coming up with an alternative with the
supreme court and right now we're not even talking about an alternative. you saw how long it took to get the affordable care act passed. it was a year and a half. do you think congress is going to be able to do that in four months? not a chance. >> it's really going to be a scene if that were to happen if the supreme court rules that way. congresswoman donna edwards and jonathan capehart thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. straight ahead, shocking video of a plane crashing in taiwan. what happened and what clues will this video hold? plus, "american sniper" star bradley cooper speaks out about the controversy surrounding the war movie. and sports illustrated swim suit issue makes history. and this. ♪ let it go let it go ♪ ♪ i'm one with the wind and sky ♪ >> why some on the right-wing tv
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now to that breaking news on the horrific plane crash in taiwan. at this moment investigators are combing through the wreckage for clues on what brought the plane down. the crash was caught on this dramatic dash cam video from a freeway. rescuers searched for survivors but had difficulty reaching parts of the plane that was still under water. 31 are confirmed dead. 15 have been taken to the hospital and 12 are still missing. just before the crash the pilots reported an engine
problem and called "mayday, mayday engine flame out." joining me is retired plane captain and katherine higgins. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> jim, it's rare that we can actually see the plane crash. what do you see here? >> well i see a lot. and a lot of this is going to have to be backed up with further investigation but if you just take a look back at the first part of this flight that we can see, the airplane was substantially level and looked to be flying very low, close to the buildings but fine and then it began to stall. a stall happens when you don't have enough air flow over the wings to give lift to the airplane and, of course if in fact there was a flame out on the left engine that would exacerbate. you would begin to see the plane roll roll into the dead engine.
the good engine giving the power and rolling the airplane because it has power on one side and not the other. so if you look at this in slow motion, look at the wing as it makes contact with the ground for the first time. it's not just slicing through it as it would if you had forward motion. it's almost falling into that wing. as a matter of fact, i think at this point the airplane was, in fact, falling. >> now, jim, i want to show the video in slow motion. do you think the pilot was intentionally moving the plane away from the freeway? >> i actually think, reverend that he was trying to maintain enough altitude to clear the buildings. that may have brought the stall on a little prematurely. because if he was that close on his air speed to maintaining flight to anything to create descent so we could get a little air speed, it would just exacerbate things. so he did clear the buildings
and, in my view that was a heroic act and then of course he lost it because he just couldn't fly without air speed and began to roll. >> kitty, how important is this video to the investigation? >> well it's extremely important. we always talk about the black boxes but obviously having visual images that you see will tell them a lot and i think your other guest has suggested a scenario that makes a lot of sense. when we finish the investigation, we will know whether, in fact that's what happened. also we have the voice records and his message to air traffic control. we'll know very quickly, i think, what exactly happened and why. >> jim you can see a taxi cab was clipped by the wing of the plane as it crashed. is it surprising more people weren't hurt? >> yes. this was a miraculous kind of a situation in terms of the number of people that survived this
crash. it could have been a whole lot worse. i think one of the things that may have helped us is the fact that it was going so slowly and, of course when it did make an impact, the major impact was in water. we used to call that an auto fire extinguisher. >> jim thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, rev. now to breaking news on that horrific metro north train crash in new york. the ntsb board, it's been on the ground for nearly 24 hours and trying to find out how it struck an suv on the track. a fire through the first car, six people were killed and five in the train and the driver of the suv. moments ago the suv was moved off the tracks. kitty, one witness was in the car behind the suv when it was
hit and described what he saw. watch this. >> as we're waiting to cross the tracks, the gate comes down in front of me and comes down and hits the top of her car. she gets out of the car, she gets out, walks around the back looks at the arm that's on the back of the car, she looks at me i gesture to come back i backed up to indicate that there's plenty of room to back up. she turns, walks and gets back in the car, slight hesitation and then moves forward and at that instant the train hit. >> how will investigators use witnesses to figure out what happened kitty? >> well again, reverend al those reports are very very significant. i think there is probably also a camera on the front end of this train. and that will also tell us what happened. the fact that the gates came
down and she was caught there is very troubling. we have technology that is apparently supposed to go into effect i believe by the end of this year that would, in some instances, perhaps not in this instance, but stop a train if there is an interruption in the signal going to the train. we don't know that in this case yet but i would argue that we have technology that could have prevented this accident by automatically causing the train to brake because there was something on the track. >> these kinds of accidents are not that uncommon. "today's" show jeff rossen has that story. >> check out this dramatic video just outside of orlando last may that demolished a sports coupe. the car stalled just before the gates came down. the driver got out with seconds
to spare. just last month in houston, a mother, father and six children escaped injury with when this freight train struck their car at another crossing. the conductor sounded the horn several times but the two cars didn't move in time. and in glendale california an suv stuck on the tracks caused this commuter train to derail hitting trains on both sides of it. killing 11 people. >> kitty, your reaction? >> well my reaction is these are tragic accidents. the ntsb has tried to improve crossings by including more signals, including more cross-bars to prevent these kinds of accidents but we still see them. and the question is what are the next level of improvements that can be made so that when people get trapped and panic in a moment like this that there is technology. i firmly believe there is an
answer in technology that will cause the train to automatically brake so we don't have the scenario that we saw yesterday and in previous accidents. >> well let's hope and pray we can get that technology soon. kitty higgins, thank you for your time tonight. >> absolutely. good to be with you. still ahead, bradley cooper speaks out on the "american sniper" controversy. and paris hilton's brother in trouble for allegedly disrupting a flight yelling about the, quote, peasants on board. but first, why does fox news have a problem with frozen? we talked to some special experts about it. and you're going to want to hear what they have to say. that's next in tonight's "gotcha." ♪ at kraft we start with
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but there is more. >> we don't have to build up women at the cost of tearing down men. >> strong male figures. >> mmm. strong male figures as heroes? what a great idea. i wonder why hollywood hasn't thought of that one? i guess except for superman oh and batman or spiderman and, of course there's iron man and then there's captain america. who can forget the hulk? these heroes are really zeros. but "politicsnation" has a world exclusive tonight. reaction from some of those very heroes. >> reporter: that's your reaction to this? >> i think it is the best that
anyone can have right now, you know, because we need to have a strong superhero, yes, we do. >> do you feel like you're being overlooked here? this report is saying there are not enough superheroes. what about you? >> i am the only one. >> reporter: do you feel like you're being overlooked? >> i am. i am here in times square and i'm overlooked. yes. >> reporter: and you look like a pretty strong superhero. >> the superheroes are all here. yes. me and batman. yes. the superheroes. >> so distraught he couldn't even talk to us. but we did manage to get exclusive reaction from one of the stars of "frozen."
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about her son's sickness but prosecutors say she's the one who made 5-year-old garnet second by force feeding him salt through a sometomach tube over time. the sodium led to a swelling in his brain. in opening arguments on tuesday, the two sides gave two very different pictures of the defendant. >> lacy spears is a calculating child killer. >> lacy spears did exactly as we wanted and expected parents in her position to do. she comforted him. >> she pleaded not guilty to manslaughter and second-degree murder. the defense says there's no eyewitness and no motive. so what's the prosecution's case? >> well the prosecution's case is based on circumstantial evidence. no one actually saw her harm her son but circumstantial evidence reverend, can be very very
powerful. it's as if you went to bed at night and grass as far as you could see out your window and then you woke up and saw snow. you might not have actually seen snow but you can be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that it snowed during the night. that's circumstantial evidence and the kind of evidence that they have in this case against this woman. and there appears to be a lot of very powerful circumstantial evidence that indicates that she, in fact may be guilty of this crime. >> investigators say that they found a search on the mother's computer for, quote, dangers of high sodium in a child. how strong is a search like that as evidence? >> well when your child ends up dying of sodium poisoning, it's very strong and very compelling. if i were the prosecutor i'd be arguing, that's not a coincidence. it reminds me of the case in georgia with the hot car dad who left his son in the car and found out that he searched his computer about how long it will
take to die in a hot car. and then she apparently called one of her friends and asked her friends to get rid of a bag that was used to put salt in the back to feed her son. she called that friend and asked him to get rid of the bag. not only do you have suspicious behavior before her son died suspicious behavior in the hospital taking him to the bathroom and then him getting sick. that's on video but also the cover-up afterwards is very compelling evidence against her. all right. our next topic, the alleged meltdown of paris hilton's 20-year-old brother. he's accused of going on a midair midair tirade in july even allegedly ranting that he would kill several flight attendants and the co-pilot. the affidavit says that he told the co-pilot "if you want to square up to me bro, then bring
it on and i will fight you." hilton also called the other passengers twice peasant saying quote, he would own anyone in this flight. they are peasants. witnesses say he used the "f" word 25 times and made children cry before the crew finally handcuffed him to his seat. he surrendered yesterday to face charges of interfering with flight crew members. he didn't enter a plea and was released on $100,000 bond. he intimidated crew members because he was defending himself, he says. what do you make of that argument? >> i think it's nonsense. i think his behavior was extremely outrageous and i'm glad that he was charged. listen, his defense attorney has said that he took some type of sleeping pill. there was something going on with him, some kind of mental breakdown. i hope that's the case. because if not, that's how he acts and he behaves in such an
irrational and irresponsible manner on a flight, he deserves to spend time in jail. you can't do that you can't threaten people and threaten the safety of everyone on a flight. that was a 10-hour flight and for four hours they had to put up with his belligerence. >> this could be a very scary proposition if you're on that flight. >> absolutely. i mean this is not a bus that you can pull over to the side and get a police officer. you're over the atlantic ocean. this is an intercontinental flight and it's very outrageous behaviors that he's being accused of. he's facing a maximum of 20 years in federal prison. so this is very very serious and i'm sure the defense is going to allege as indicated, he's taking a sleeping pill and these drugs had an effect that
caused this outrageous behavior but it was terrible i'm sure for the people on that plane. the defense attorney has a lot of work ahead of him to cut out a plea bargain to help his client avoid prison time. >> all right. ken and faith, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks rev. >> thank you. coming up behind the scenes on election night 2012. why president obama was irritated with mitt romney's concession call. plus the star of "american sniper" bradley cooper responds to the movie's criticism. and a first for "sports illustrated" swim suit edition. a plus-size model. it's all coming up in "conversation nation," next.
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time now for "conversation nation". joining us tonight, democratic strategist tara and jimmy williams and msnbc's abby huntsman. thank you all for being here tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> thank you. >> we start with president obama irritated with mitt romney's 2012 concession call. former senior obama adviser david axelrod writes in his new
book about how the president was not smiling during the call and, quote, slightly irritated when it was over. after he hung up the president said, "you really did a great job of getting out to vote in places like cleveland and milwaukee and, in other words, black people. that's what he thinks this was all about." former aide disputes this call saying it's a lie. what do you make of this? >> well if he did make those comments, which i think he did, given the other comments made about the president, it's not like this is in line with other things that have been said. if he did make those comments they were weak, they were classless, lacking in grace and passive aggressive. so the president should be upset. the bottom line is news flash here, black people only make up 13% of the united states population. so clearly his win was more about more people than just
black people. 70% plus of asian-americans voted for the president. 70% of hispanic-americans voted for the president. the majority of jewish people voted for the president. overwhelming numbers of young people voted for the president. this is a pattern of republicans seeking to diminish this president's accomplishments and, frankly, it's tiring and it's ugly. >> now, jimmy, this was according to david axelrod, the president's interpretation of what romney said. do you think romney was minimizing the president by only giving them one constituency, his base black vote or do you think he was trying to in some ways, excuse the fact that he had lost by a large margin? >> i think mitt romney was as ineloquent as he normally is. that's what i think happened. i think mitt romney said something that he thought was perfectly nice and what he ended up saying to most americans was
perfectly awful. that's why when you go into a room and you don't think there are cameras, you say things like the 47%. when you say things -- he didn't say this but newt gingrich did -- these kinds of things they are not mistakes. they just say them because that's what they believe. and when you believe things that's the opposite of what a majority of the american voters believe. by the way, don't forget barack obama beat mitt romney by 5 million votes. >> absolutely. >> i'm sure that those 5 million were not all african-american. here's the deal republican party, as tara just said if you'd like women to vote for you as a majority and gay people and latinos and black people you should probably acknowledge that they exist as gay people as latinos, as women and as black people as opposed to just americans because, in fact they are. >> abby you are the republican on the panel tonight. let me put you on the spot.
>> sure. >> do -- you hear that the romney spokesman said that it's a lie. what do you think? do you think romney said this? >> you also have to remember that this is a book and you want to sell books. this is the first of -- i mean not the first, rather but one of many books that have come out within the obama administration and with any book there's always another side to that story. i think to jimmy's point, there are a number of things that have been said from folks within the republican party. this though, i'm not really on the same page as the panelist because i think you have to think about the man who said it. mitt romney, who is a very awkward guy. and the one thing he wants more than anything in the world, is to be president of the united states. that call had to be very very difficult for him to make. so no matter what he said it was going to come out awkward. so i don't know if what he said really came across the way that people took it. so you know i don't want to believe it. i hope that's not what he meant, if that's the case. it's probably best that he didn't end up winning in the
end. but look i'd like to think there's another side to this story and maybe he was just being his normal awkward romney self. >> well it's a little like losing the best essay in school and saying to the winner you did a great job even though your mother helped you cheat. but anyway from the campaign field to another kind of battleground, the new bradley cooper movie "american sniper" has faced all kind of criticism with some saying it glorifies war. and now the movie's star is speaking out. >> the fact that it's inciting discussion that has nothing to do with vets and it's more about the iraq war or why or what we did not do to indict those who decided to go to the war, you know, every conversation that is in those terms, terry, is moving farther and farther away from what our soldiers go through and the fact that there's 22 people -- 22 vets commit suicide each day. >> he says instead of debating
the iraq war, the movies should make us talk about veterans. jimmy, because he have a point? >> he does. and this is something that you and i discussed on your show which is this issue. i don't plan to see the movie. i care more about what happens to you are oh veterans. we supply them to go to war and when they get back do nothing to help them except for waiting in the v.a. line. justice for vets we know that 700,000 of our veterans are under criminal justice supervision. we know that 1 in 6 out of every one of our post 9/11 vets is somehow, some way addicted to something, alcohol, prescription drugs, illegal drugs, et cetera. that's a problem. why? because the community is not there to support them. >> right. >> there's a great thing called justice for vets which is there to support them and give them an alternative and that's something that we should be talking about on a daily basis, honestly.
>> rev, i was waiting to hear what bradley cooper had to say because i knew he would say exactly what this nation had to hear and i have two brothers in the military and what he said is the 22 that commit suicide every day and as an actor you have to get inside the mind of the person that you're playing and so i'm sure he felt with him while he was playing this role. and he wanted all of us to realize the most important thing here are our veterans and taking care of them. that's more important than any of this stuff that we're talking about right now. >> everyone stay with me. when we come back, the "sports illustrated" swim suit issue makes history with its first plus-size model. ♪ ♪ ♪ good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male
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everyone is a size 0. actually, the woman in the "sports illustrated" magazines don't look like that because they are air brushed. i think this is great. it's progress. we need more of it and let's keep it going. let's reward this. i might buy the imaginemagazine just to encourage this. >> i wonder if plus-size models like to be air brushed as well. i'm with tara. she's so beautiful. she looks so happy out there. the crazy thing about it being a plus-size model, the average size is between a 12 and 14 and that's about what she is. so it's really looking at a girl that's just leak you. i'm surprised it's taken this long for a magazine to put this on the cover. you want to see somebody that is beautiful just leak you want to feel beautiful. instead of calling her plus size we should just call her a beautiful woman. >> jimmy?
>> this is an ad. she is now actually a part of the women that are going to be in the layout. although, part of me thinks oh dear, here we are having this conversation. again, at least they are acknowledging the fact as my colleagues have just said that most women don't look like that. and thank goodness they are actually putting someone that looks normal on there. i think it's fantastic. >> and for the record a lot of men actually -- this magazine's obviously geared towards men. a lot of men like women -- >> yep, they do. >> who are curvier women. >> i was just going to say that. >> they prefer that. >> tara they don't want us. >> yes. >> i'm going to stay out of this. thank you for joining this conversation. >> thanks, rev. when we come back, "essence"
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finally tonight, i'm here in chicago where civil rights and policing are always topics of conversation and those topics are also front and center in this month's issue of "essence" magazine. for the first time in the magazine's 45-year history, there's no image on its front cover. just these words. "black lives matter." i had the honor of contributing an essay along with people like carmen john legend and new york city's first lady mccray. it's focusing debate on some of the biggest challenges facing the african-american community. and the crucial question where do we go from here? joining me now is "essence"
editor-in-chief, vanessa deluc achl. a. >> thank you for having me. >> "essence" has never done a cover like this before. why now? >> we felt that it was absolutely essential for us to chronicle and note and make a point that this is an unbelievable time in our history. that what we are witnessing is a new civil rights movement unfolding right before our very eyes. >> i wrote how long it can take to achieve lasting change. how can "essence" help keep people focused on these things? >> well one of the things is to continually, from now on introduce a civil rights watch. it will showcase people in the movement making great strides, bring attention to people you may not know about or have heard about, the young ladies that have organized the new york city
millions march that happened not too long ago, people on the ground in ferguson, people who are in the justice halls. >> one of the things that i think is great is that people are doing things different ways. some don't agree on tactics but the people are moving and that's a movement. >> that's what i love about this. and to our artists, you mentioned carmen and john legend, the song that they wrote that's featured in the movie "selma," glory, that's a new version of a civil rights anthem, right? >> we must march, we must stand up. >> and i think the key for me at this moment is that we -- and i'm so glad to hear about the civil rights watch, that we don't let the moment pass without being committed to real change. >> absolutely. that's why it was so important for us to hear not just from a few voices but a lot of
desperate voices. not everyone agreed on what is the path. >> yes. >> how we should move forward. that's okay. >> and we never were monolithic. i mean we had dr. king and malcolm x and thurgood marshall all at the same time. >> yes. yes. >> and there's nothing wrong with that as long as we are headed towards a better way for everybody, not just us but everybody. >> we felt that in this issue, technically, we wanted to make it clear that there are many ways to get to the success that we're seeking. >> and i think you did a great job. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> that was my conversation with van necessary vanessa de luca last week. what are we going to win out of this? but something we've already won.
>> we've got to go. set your dvr so you don't ever miss an episode. that's it for us. have a special weekend and valentine's day. this is the fox news alert. oregon's embattled mayor is giving up the feet he submitted a letter of resignation effective next wednesday. dan springer joins us live. hello, dan. >> reporter: it was a couple hours ago after two solid weeks under an unfolding ethics scandal. he will officially resign on wednesday. he chose not to face the media instead releasing an audio recording. >> i understand that i have become a liability to the very institutions and policy toss which i have dedicated my
career. >> reporter: kitzhaber's resignation, one by one they called on him to step down. >> this has got to stop. it seems to be escalating and seems to be getting worse and worse. >> reporter: he ran his fourth term as governor and has been embroiled in an ethics scandal by his fiancee sylvia hayes. billionaire environmental activist tom desire funded one of the groups that paid hayes. another black eye for the green agenda and tipping point for kitzhaber loyalists. >> i came to the conclusion that this is the right time to ask the governor to do the right thing for the citizens of the state and step aside, focus on his criminal defense and let somebody else lead the
government. >> the state attorney general, also a democrat, opened a criminal investigation. and has ordered hayes to turn over her e-mails. kitzhaber and hayes have hired criminal defense attorneys. the secretary of state will be sworn in as the next governor. also a democrat, she too abandoned kitzhaber calling his recent actions bizarre and unprecedented. on his way out, kitzhaber said he has broken no laws and has done nothing dishonorable and took a swipe at the media. >> it is deeply trouble to go realize we have come to a place in this great state of ours where a pepper can be charged, tried, convicted and sentenced by the media with no due process and no allegations involved. >> he becomes the first oregon governor forced out by a scandal. and kate raul will be the first openly by sexual governor. shannon. >> more with a panel on the very interesting story. back here in washington, the
stage is set for the first presidential veto for the new republican-controlled congress. lawmakers have formalized their authorization of the keystone pipeline. the next step is a trip to the president's desk for the promised veto. it will not happen in the next few days. mike emmanuel tells us why tonight. >> before being in the capital, top republican lawmakers celebrated passage of legislation, authorizing the keystone xl pipeline. with president obama threatening a veto, the ball is in his court. >> we hope common sense will prevail here and the president will sign this extraordinary bill. >> while lawmakers wait on the president, a district judge dealt a temporary setback by citing with property owners trying to prevent trans canada from taking land in the northern part of the state. still, the is senate sponsored says it cost the tax payers nothing and would provide big
benefits. >> this really is about energy. it's about jobs. it's about economics growth. >> meanwhile congress is leaving town with a $40 billion homeland security funding package stuck in the senate. republicans say it would hold the president accountable for seizing his authority on immigration but democrats are pushing back. >> they must stop holding homeland security hostage. >> republican house members signed this to fellow hoosier joe donnelly writing, "we agree with your november 20, 2014 declaration that congress has the sole authority to alter immigration law, and urged him to break away from a senate democrat filibuster. asks john boehner in a fox news sunday exclusive. >> can you promise the american people, with the terror threat only growing, that you are not going to allow funding for the department of homeland security to run out? >> the house has acted. we've done our job.
senate democrats are the ones putting us in this precarious position. and it's up to senate democrats to get their act together. >> all i can ask -- >> chris, chris. one more time. the house has done its job under the constitution. it's time for the senate to do their job. >> stepb any hour said the bill would clear the house with mostly democrat votes. >> less than 10% of the republicans who are responsible and want to make sure their country is safe could join us and pass today the homeland security bill. and the president's request for authorization of military force against isis is in deep trouble. his liberal base calls it too broad. shannon shannon? >> mike emmanuel live on the hill. thank you. by the way, you can see the entire interview on fox news sunday this weekend.
be sure to check your local listings. president obama is spending another day focusing on something other than terrorism. cyber security is at silicon valley. the terror wars intensify in yemen and afghanistan, just to name a couple. it came close to home for american troops in iraq. kevin cork is at the white house tonight. >> reporter: pentagon officials acknowledge this was a first. isis suicide bombers getting close. >> early indications are, yes some of them did detonate their vests. they detonate themselves. >> reporter: penetrated by isis. most wearing iraqi uniforms. >> it's important to make clear they were immediately engaged by members of the iraqi army, 7th infantry of the iraqi army. all were killed >> reporter: most live marines
training iraqi soldiers. fortunately, no americans were hurt. all militants reportedly killed by iraqi forces with the help of coalition surveillance. but the small number of fighters underscores the issue. the attacks are recruiting tools. >> the fact of the matter is isis could not take that air base. they didn't have the fourth generation to do it. that was not their intent. their intent is so grab headlines. >> and grab al baghdadi 15 miles away, now firmly in isis's control. its influence growing across iraq and syria. and then there's yemen. >> left us in position now where on relatively short notice, just over the past few months the security situation deteriorated far more rapidly than we expected. >> reporter: so rapidly that the american embassy had to be closed. security personnel, including cia operatives removed. and the u.s.-backed yemen
government once hailed a success. now on the brink of a civil war thanks to rebels. >> this enemy must be opposed. they must be killed. they must be destroyed. and the associate extremist form of the islamic ideology must be defeated wherever it rears its ugly head. >> reporter: president obama was in california announcing executive orders to enhance cyber security measures. >> the same social media we use in government to the advocate for democracy and human rights around the world can also be used by terrorists to spread hateful ideologyists. >> reporter: isis continues to gain ground. and no marines were forced to engage the enemy in today's attacks. >> thank you, kevin. >> reporter: you bet. the head of the fbi said america is at a matter of
crossroads in race relations. >> we can roll up our car windows, turn up the radio, and drive around these problems. or we can choose instead to have an open and honest discussion about what our relationship is today. what it should be, what it could be, what it needs to be. >> comey joins eric holder in calling for better data about how often police use force. up next marco rubio gets a little more serious about running for president. first, here's some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 4 in dallas set the trial of the man accused of killing former navy s.e.a.l. chris kyle and a friend. eddie ray routh said he and his nephew smoked marijuana before the shootings. the fbi gets involved in the murder of three muslim students in chapel hill. it is launching its own inquiry parallel to the local police
investigation. family and friends of the victims say their murders were a a hate crime. and this is a live look at boston from fox 25. the big story there tonight freezing temperatures. and more snow on the way for a region dealing with record amounts already. new englanders are still digging out from three major storms that left six feet of snow in many areas. now they are bracing for a storm that could bring a foot or more of additional snow in some areas. that is tonight's live look outside the beltway from special report. we'll be right back. ♪ nexium 24hr. it's the purple pill. the #1 prescribed acid blocking brand. available without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protectiontm.
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invisible campaign trail. >> good to see you. >> love you. >> thank you very much. i appreciate you saying that. >> i want to share my vision of america's future and what it is we can be as a country. i'm putting out my ideas. i imagine and i hope other cancelled dates will follow suit >> reporter: he has been here to help mitt romney. these are the first handshaking he made on his own behalf. but he's already behind the curve when it williams to caucus courtship. >> everyone else has already started. >> so he's late? >> yeah. you could say that >> reporter: iowa's gop caucuses are a low turnout exercise in year-long organizing. the winner gets huge media attention. rick perry in 2012 and mike huckabee and rick santorum and names like bush. there's app appetite for choices. >> they are interested to see what marco rubio and scott walker will bring to the table.
they haven't been on the national stage for a long time. >> reporter: scott walker is the first in iowa office. like most, he has begun hiring. some opposed his bill for comprehensive immigration reform. it's early but one repeat candidate and two new comers are already getting a lot of attention. >> i think mike huckabee is going to be a strong candidate. i think competing with huckabee is ted cruz. we're hearing a lot about scott walker right now >> reporter: jeb bush faces challenges in iowa too. conservatives think on national education standards and immigration he's soft. >> he has amnesty and commitment to the common core. those are two issues that conservatives won't play well with. >> reporter: most gop activists say mike huckabee has the early edge. >> he is a turnkey operation. when he says go, the people will be fired up and they will be with him just like they were in '08 >> reporter: socially conservative christians
dominated the gop caucus for years. this time the state party planned something different. a series of monthly or so forums on ava right of other issues, economy, jobs, agriculture, and foreign policy among others, designed to level the playing field for all the candidates and boost and broaden. >> thanks, carl. coming up shortly bret baier will have his latest profile of presidential contenders. a look at rick santorum ruth bader ginsburg said she was not 100% sober during the state of the union last month. video would tend to support the story she told at george washington university. a little wine from dinner with colleagues left her a little sleep y. she said she had fallen asleep in past years. can rick santorum do it again in 2016? first what's being called
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we are learning more tonight about just how involved american combat forces remain in afghanistan. chief washington correspondent james rosen tells us that reports of it being essentially over may have been exaggerated >> reporter: confirmed as first reported by the "new york times", afghan commandos conducting a joint terrorism raid near the pakistani border last fall killed a leader al kuwaiti. it contained significant
intelligence about al qaeda intelligence. >> be they counterterrorism or otherwise, that we try to assess and evaluate whatever resources and information might come across battle field operation. sometimes when we do that, we gain insight and information that could lead to follow-on operations >> reporter: with the u.s. scheduled to draw down to some 5,500 troops in afghanistan by year's end, their mission is confined to the training advising and assisting of the afghan national security forces and counterterrorism operations like the one that captured the laptop. defense officials told fox news the laptop wasn't behind a recent uptick in nighttime raids with u.s. personnel participating, rather that such upticks are sick cal. but they questioned whether the commander in chief is accurately describing the u.s. role. >> there is a disconnect between what the president is telling the american people, we're done
with combat operations in afghanistan and yet we have a robust, it sounds like and important ct mission we are still under taking. i think this goes to the leveling with the american people on what we're actually doing. >> reporter: the top u.s. general in afghanistan told lawmakers the mission as presently configured, has tangible benefits for homeland security. >> based on again, our presence inside of afghanistan with a great counterterrorism capability we have been able to keep pressure on insurgents that would want to do harm both to afghanistan and other nation toss include europe and the united states. >> admiral kirby confirmed that an interagency group is presently weighing changes to the president's timetable for the withdrawal of all remaining u.s. troops from afghanistan. but kirby said no decisions have yet been made. shannon? >> james rosen live at the pentagon. thank you, james. >> thank you. fighting in eastern ukraine is increasing hours after the signing of a cease-fire and hours before it is scheduled to take effect.
at least 25 people were killed across the region as russian-backed separatists mounted a major sustained offensive to capture a railway hub. the investigation into whether argentina's president covered up involvement in iran in her country's worst ever terror strike will continue. the prosecutor has reaffirmed the accusations. he will present his find togsings to a judge who will decide to dismiss the case or not. this evening rick santorum has "the right stuff." ♪
we continue our look at likely presidential contenders tonight with rick santorum. here's my colleague bret baier. >> rick santorum. >> the movie caucus captured at mazing 2012 rise of rick santorum in iowa. from speeches at pizza houses and coffee houses, while he had single digits in the polls to big rallies for the dark horse candidate. to a come from behind win that
took a a while to sort out but still a surprise. we sat down with santorum during his recent five-day trip to what may again become his home away from home, the hawk eye state. >> i've been here a few times. the last time i was here good move. this place was a couple of days before the caucus in january of 2012. and this place was jammed full of people. >> you won last time. >> well sort of. >> sort of. 34 votes. it took a while. >> people say i won the iowa caucus. but i didn't. when does it count? mitt romney won the iowa caucus. who hadality momentum coming out of iowa? it was mitt romney. >> as you sit here in this coffee house, can you see rick santorum behind the desk in the
oval office? >> i didn't do it last time if i didn't believe we could win. i have no right running for office if i don't think that's something i'm prepared to do or can accomplish. >> you obviously did well the last time. this time in the early polling you're back down to where you were when you started in 2011. >> i think if you look at what happened over the past few years, we were not treated in the media like someone who finished second. >> anybody but romney. >> anybody but romney. it really wasn't him. one of the great gifts i had in my political career, every single election i was never supposed to win. it's something i'm used to. i see it as a good thing for me. >> keeps you humble. >> makes you work hard. >> people looking this time and they look at people who are currently governors or currently senators the last time you held elective office was 2006. so why are you better than
people who are in the jobs now? >> well i think people who are in the jobs now, particularly in washington, haven't learned much how things are supposed to properly function. if you look at the time i was there, we got a lot of things done. both on national security, on helping the poor on moral and cultural issues, on strengthening the economy. >> i think washington is different than the state house. particularly in the area of national security. i served on the armed services committee. i worked on national security bills. after i left i spent four years in a think tank writing about national security. that's an important qualifier in an election cycle where it is an important issue. >> analysts are mix odd his prospects. >> santorum has a strong support among social conservatives. he's a good media candidate. he had many years in the united states senate. so he knows the issues pretty well. his problem is going to be that
he hasn't been in public office for a long time. >> there is not an appeal to rick santorum beyond iowa. where does he go from there? >> he has traditionally been branded as the social conservatives candidate. something he bristles at. >> this is the des moines register" today. santorum to rebrand ahead of 2016. and it says a focus on middleclass workers less on social issues. fair? >> not up fair. but i don't think it's fair. if you go back and look at the 2012 campaign, i focused a lot of time and energy on my campaign on talking about what we needed to do to help those who are being left behind by the economy today. >> you were just asked a lot of questions. >> well, i'll give you an example. at the iowa summit on saturday, i spoke on two topics. i talked about radical islam and this message of blue collar conservatism based on the book i
wrote last year. that was my message. when i went upstairs to the press conference, i got three questions in a row on gay marriage. and i finally -- after the third question i said, has anybody else up here gotten three questions on this issue. mike huckabee goes through the same thing. other candidates who are identified as social conservatives, the press tries to reinforce this mantra even if you don't talk about it. >> a lightning round here. immigration. what's your stance? >> we need to secure the borders first. what the house is doing is absolutely right on this front. what the president did was unconstitutional. what has to be walked back. if the president has the authority to unilaterally change a law of congress then we have a dictator, not a president. >> the biggest threat you think today? >> there has been a a meltdown in the middle east that many of us for years have been
suggesting what happened if we do not confront the fundamental issue, which is the cancer within islam. if islam does not clean up its own house, then it's going to be the world that's going to suffer. and islam will suffer. i'm not calling on a holy war. i'm asking that we are accurate with the people of the country and the world as to the nature of this the threat and the reason the threat is not going away unless it is confronted by both those who are on the other side of the battle field which is the west, but the people on the same side of the battle field, which is the muslim world, who also is being destroyed by the radicals. >> common core education. >> really common sense not common kors. common core is this. we need a revolution with school choice. that ultimately engages the parents the most. you can choose the school that's best for the children.
>> the santorums have seven children. bella's gift "is about their fight to save their seventh child, born with a rare genetic condition. >> we never left her side. always worried. >> bella tomorrows to be an inspiration. >> good to see you. thank you for coming out. god bless you. >> politically it seems santorum is attacking another uphill race one luncheon at a time. >> good to see you. >> but this time without the sweater vest. >> it's really important to trust your own judgment here. not to defer to these folks who are on tv all the time telling you who can win and who can't win. >> that's what i love about iowa town squares. they're just so great. >> which brings us back to the importance of iowa for rick santorum. >> people say, iowa is not a cross-section of america. would do they get such a set. what do you say? >> i think they're a pretty good cross-section of the party.
it is certainly now a good cross-section of evangelical voters, catholic voters blue collar, white collar, agriculture, small town. maybe not real big city. but it is a pretty sizable city. >> if you run, as expected is it is fair to say that iowa is the be all end all for rick tore up? >> clearly, if we don't do well in iowa there's not much of a path for us. >> 91 to go. but he's done it before. all right. that is bret baier reporting. and he will have more of those sitdowns with potential 2016 presidential contenders. stay tuned for those stocks were up today. the dow gained 47 to close over the 18,000 mark. s&p up 8 1/2. nasdaq up 36 for the week. the dow gained one percentage point. s&p 500 up two.
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the house has acted. we've done our job. senate democrats are the ones putting us in this precarious position. and its up to senate democrats to get their act together. >> i can ask.
>> chris, chris. one more time. the house has done its job under the constitution. it's time for the senate to do their job. >> i can't believe that they picked a bill like the department of homeland security to fight this political battle. to think a $48 billion bill that means so much to the fire departments and our own personal safety is going to be the venue for a political battle, which is pretty deeply felt on both sides. makes no sense. >> a lot of unfinished business. but lawmakers are going on a break. let's bring in the panel to talk about that and more. nina eastman for fortune magazine. and national review and news mags. great to see you all. we have this debate over the fight of the funding bill and the aim to pass funding without allow to go fund the president's actions on immigration. nina, we can sit here and talk about the procedural stuff back and forth all day. but it's all about perception. and everybody -- democrats are talking government shutdown.
>> perception in politics. i think this was a disaster, the decision to make -- to tie these executive orders to the funding of dhs homeland security. it makes it look like the republicans are putting the nation at risk. it's not the government shutdown that hurt the republican party so badly. and i remember talking to republican strategists at the same time saying we shouldn't do this. why pick a fight you can't win? we're, again watching republicans in a fight they can't win. and it's going to hurt them politically. my view has been always take the president at his word. he said he would tear up the executive orders if comprehensive immigration was passed. back him into a corner. pass comprehensive immigration reform. get a few democrats on him. and get that bill on his desk and dare him to tear up the executive orders. that's what they should have done. >> yeah. of course house conservatives are saying, listen, we have done
the job. they are saying basically it is the senate and a number of o conservatives calling out the senate side saying you need to get it done. mitch mcconnell tried it three times and failed three times. yet they are gearing up for a fourth. >> after the recess they are going to do this again knowing it will fail. after this recess -- i mean, to this retreat together, the senate republicans and the house republicans. and they're not, you know, so tight. they were going off to unify. there was this idea of passing a house bill was just ridiculous the senate republicans. they said we're not going to do that. well a couple, 36 hours later, okay, we're going to put it on the floor. now it's been enough time on bill that can't pass to pass their own comprehensive immigration reform. or at least a few piecemeal bills. instead, in this situation that's increasingly embarrassing
it is tense. as you saw the speaker in that sound bite with chris wallace, he knows it's a bad idea. they have known all along it's going to end up here. and the tension is high between the two chambers. they finally have control of the congress. you can understand why house members are saying we don't want you to bounce it back to us. take some pain. you're in the majority now. take an arrow. then we will think about us taking more arrows on this side. >> there are still so many things on the agenda that have to get done. authorization of use for military force in regards to isis. the president has been talking about it for months. the president is saying give us something, bring something to the hill, let us know your to we can look ahead. they don't like it for her reasons. the right doesn't like it for its reasons. today we have an attack on a base in iraq where we have u.s. marines there training iraqi soldiers, possibly getting caught up in an attack by isis. it seems the time has come to nail down some type of strategy. >> the president is certainly going to give his authorization.
the problem is there are a lot of people in both parties that still don't understand what the strategy is, don't believe it's well thought out, and don't believe it is coherency. luckily the president will show decisiveness. but we are no closer to having a strategy to take down isis than when the president confessed he would have been surprised by the rise of isis. we still don't know what to do if we don't put a lot of boots on the ground. >> there's continueal debate about whether that will be allowed, whether it is a good idea. they want the president to have that option and want it at least to be on the table. >> he is fighting a war already. he doesn't need this authorization. he has put it out there. and it's not like a strategy to fight the war. >> no. >> you know what, he retains the authority, which is broad from 2001. it won't be repealed by this. but submitting this draft to the congress, he's actually violating his critics to say the
strategy is not working. congress should welcome the debate. both sides should get in there and work something out. if they can't get involved in war powers, they are no longer a co-branch. >> even with all of this the keystone and everything else the president vowed to veto, there's been an uptick in congressional approval. when you're down on the bottom, you have somewhere to go. >> just like the temperature outside. >> very well. >> the newest numbers show it is up to 21% approval. >> wow. >> up from the record low of 9. they're in double digits. >> they are beyond friends and family. >> beyond friends and family congressional staffers this isn't going to last if it continues to be the house of dynamic dysfunction that it is now. you've got this authorization. you've also got trade. very important free trade agreement out there. you have tax reform.
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i must also say it is deeply trouble to go me to realize we have come to a place in the history of this great state of ours where a person can be charged, tried convicted and
sentenced by the media with no due process and no knowledge of the allegations involved. even more troubling and on a very personal level so many so many former allies in common cause have been willing to accept this judgment at face value. >> oh, i think the trial is coming. >> we are back to talk about that oregon's governor stepping down today a lot of allegations surrounding him, his fiance use of the office even democratic allies pushed him. >> the broader issue is clean energy companies depend on government subsidies because the market doesn't make them cost effective. clean energy subsidies were given to this first lady. she literally was telling state bureaucrats you do this, you do that based on what the money was for. imagine if oil companies had done this. i mean it would be a national scandal. i think we have to step back and in the light of solyndra
and say we all love green energy in theory but what's really happening on the ground because it took down a governor and really, it's a scandal that could go in other states. >> a.b., he is done. >> well, this is what happens when you have four terms. i think it's just a bad idea. generally speaking i think none of his allies long time allies who begged him the house speaker on and on, democratic leadership who begged him to step aside they would be standing by him if they didn't think it was bad. he can blame the media, it was bad enough that his staunchest oilist said it's time. >> innocent until proven guilty. bigger problem than stepping down as governor. there are criminal investigation into him. and you know, you have to wonder when you look back on this, he was popular. he was reelected. was it -- why did he not see a problem in his fiancee collecting contracts from these same companies that were affected by public
policy that she was advising on. i think he is in a lot of hot water right now. >> now we want to move on to the candidate casino. >> where are you handing out potential contenders. >> high roller tonight i'm going with 50 on jeb bush. i nowaker is the new flavor so i'm putting 30 on him. only if there is implosion and giving him 10. >> 10 and the rest of the field you are spreading it out? >> i think i'm placing most of my faith in two candidates. >> okay. very well said. all right john, what about you? >> the g.o.p. race is going to come down to two mime marries. primary who is more or less the establishment candidate and nonestablishment candidate. jeb bush is clearly out in front for the first one. i give him 30. >> but a slight edge. >> scott has become a
phenom. he is now being attacked because he has left college a few credits short to take a job. so i give him 35. 15 for rubio because i think he is the fall back if bush falters, 10 for paul. a for cruze, 5 for christie. >> all right. nina how do your numbers stack up. >> i don't put quite as much men on jeb bush. he is a frontrunner. wide open field. he is now with mitt romney out of the race he has become the one you go to. he is cleaning up on donors and endorsements. i give $20 to scott walker. he has been picking up some big league romney donors. i didn't think that brouhaha in london over evolution hurt him except the media elites it helped his name recognition which is what he needs nationally. marco rubio i have always believed is a dark horse. i think he swooned -- he made conservatives swoon in 2012.
people forget that. i think he can crack that immigration nut that is so difficult for the republican party. so i think he has to the go be right up there all the time. you can't put chris christie much farther behind, i give him $20. i think he is still lights up a room. he has got issues, but he is still right up there in the top tier. >> who among us doesn't, right? >> okay. so winners and loadsers. here are some people with some issues on that list today too. john, start with you and head down the line. >> ashton carter approved ace secretary of defense almost unanimously. proof that in washington competence is rewarded sometimes. and bipartisanship is still possible and almost everyone agrees he will do a good job. >> all right. it was a good week for him. your loser? >> loser is, you know, with all of this talk that the obama am amnesty could allow illegal aliens to register and possibly vote. rick scott is under fire because a court decision
rogue liberal court decision florida does not have the right to remove non-illegal aliens from voter rules. he has refused to tell anyone whether or not is he going to appeal. who wants illegallial aliens and noncitizens on the voting roles? if he doesn't appeal that will be the law in florida. >> speed it up in lightning rounds. >> marie holmes of shah north carolina. power ball winner. quit working because one has cerebral palsy. i hope it ends better than most lottery stories. my loser is congressional public leaders in giant immigration scam. >> my winner is vladimir putin. cease-fire agreement with over the ukraine. consolidates his military gains. pushes off more sanctions and he will break the cease-fire. and my loser of the the week is brian williams. if he thought this was going to be contained and he might come back, it doesn't look
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xt id will be free. and what message is he sending to our enemies regarding isis terrorists. we'll see you tomorrow morning. fox & friends starts right now. good morning it's thursday, february 19th. the threat of isis rages and our allies beg for help. this morning's cover of the new york post says it all. islamic terror, i just don't see it. you won't believe the president is now lecturing you to not be pc, what? >> we'll explain that. and eric holder leaving office set to sue for racial discrimination even though michael brown charges were
dropped. is this about his legacy. and did you notice one former star missing from the snl alum who showed up only to be es courted to a back room. that's what they dr. to me this morning. >> if how did you wind up here. you were escorted to the back room because they thought brian kilmeade would be here, but he is off and you are in. >> always fun to have you here. and great that you're enjoying us this morning. this story will be familiar with many of our viewers. this is a fox news alert. royal air force jets scrambling to intercept russians bombers off the coast of cornwall, england. escorted the two bombers out of
the area. the bombers never made it into british airspace. another show of power by the russians. nearly 180 patients at ucla medical center may have been exposed to antibiotic bacteria blamed for two deaths at that hospital. they are now monitoring people who had surgeries between october and january. we'll have more on that las vegas road rage story, the family of tammy myers the woman who was shot and killed now receiving back lash for her actions prior to her death. some say she and her armed son should not have gone out looking
for the guy who sfrietfrightened her earlier that day but myers husband says otherwise. the big snl show, apparently not all the same. victoria jackson was ban issued to the over flow room while all the other cast members were treated treated like vips. she wrote this. quote -- we'll keep you posted if we learn what happened. those are your headlines. kind of like what we did to you, you were ban issued to the green room.
all right so this is the cover of the new york post. the president of the united states, islamic terror. i just don't see it. yesterday he appeared before the summit that the white house is holding down in washington, d.c. it is on violent extremism. the summit does not have islam in its name even though it really is about isis which does have islam in its name. it is the islamic state. >> that's right. >> the president said some really confounding things there's an entire list. we put together a sound byte. let's listen. >> al qaeda and isil and groups like it are desperate for legitimacy, try to portray themselves as holly warriors in
defense of islam. we must never accept the premise that they put forward because it is a lie. nor should we grant these terrorisms the religious legitimacy that they seek. they are terrorists people are responsible for violence and terrorism. we can't paper over problems. we're not going to solve if we're always trying to be politically al lially correct. >> many things he said, are you the police on what is terror and what is not. by the way, community organizations running to try to keep youths out of extreme behavior. >> to me it ignores the obvious. you come home and see crayon on the wall and someone standing there with crayon and you ignore
who it is. when the president says they try to portray themselves as religious leaders we must accept this premise because it is a lie. if you listen to isis that's exactly what they do. >> of course it is. >> they are trying to return to a seventh century version of islam, they believe it is the purest form and they put themselves out as religious leaders. >> he decided to use moral eek kwif lency. and again on the beach 21 christians were beheaded by isis and call upon the cruise aiders. >> you can see them being marched out onto the beach in libya where their heads are about to be cut off. the president also detailed earlier in the day as well talked about, well you know, keep in mind put yourself in
their shoes, they have some grievances as well. and we from the administration where they've been talking about, well, you know they really need jobs. when you listen to this community organizer he said it sounds like it's a crime, education and job problem. they also have a problem there were a lot of people in attendance mainly from muslim groups of one of the people who was there was a fellow bring the name of islam al muriati, he tweeted he was there he is founder of public affairs committee. >> he tweeted a picture of him and himself with joe biden. >> one thing that makes his
selection being there extraordinary is he is anti-israeli. he said this in 2001. if we're going to look at suspects, we should look at the groups that benefit the most -- we should suspect israel. >> his name range a bell. actually posted a detailed fact sheet on scores of controversyial statements he has made. that one being one of the most fiery fiery. congressman ryan said how disrespectful it is a slap in the face. >> i think it is a slap in the face to israel. speaker boehner and netanyahu
invites terror sympathizers. it's clear israel has been our partner in the war on terrorism. i'm speechless. this is why our allies don't trust us and our enemies no longer fear us. >> he has accused israel of using the holocaust as an excuse to justify what they do security security-wise. did you get the news that eric holder is leaving office but before he goes he's got one more thing he wanted to leave as part of his legacy. instead of ruling against civil rights charges in michael brown charges he's going to sue the ferguson police department for racial discriminations. >> and if they don't agree to
change the tactics they are currently using he is trying to force changes, some believe he is trying to map out his legacy. >> maybe. so what is the action ferguson police department is doing against people, well a lawsuit from a group of low income citizens say officers target minorities with minor traffic violations and if they can't pay they put them in jail. so there are subtle threats, if you don't change it, we're going to sue you. >> right. we know that won't go away any time soon. so the pressure to change their tactics is increases. >> one last thing to add remember that interview a week ago where he was asked to kwak like a duck he said i haven't used this department for political reasons. >> in things racial we have always been and i believe continue to be in too many ways
essentially a nation of coward's. >> if you look at the way attorney general was treated no one has had to deal with that kind of treatment. >> as an african-american man who has been stopped and searched by police in situation where's such action is not warranted i also carry with me an understanding of mistrust that some citizens harbor for those wearing the badge. >> he is also admittedly an activist. >> let us know which of his comments pop the most. is it time for boots on the ground? after unspeakable acts. we have a dire warning next.
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troops untie their hands and let them fight real and total war so we incentivize allies to do the heavy lifting required mostly special operators and conventional troops. i am hesitant to say we want american boots on the ground with a president who hasn't done what is needed to bring in allies and clean up operations. >> it seems vague when it comes to what generals would or would not be able to do. when you see the beheadings after beheading. we saw the 21 christians beheaded and a jordanian pilot burned alive and 45 in the past couple days. i listened to dunkcan who said this is an opportunity to corner isis before they get out and
spread. >> it is not militarily hard to kill isis. it is going to be. when they spread out and are able to get into places like italy and move throughout europe freely it will be really hard. >> so if we don't move now what will we face later. >> yeah we know where they are now. it's like a fly trap. they are there. we can defeat them militarily as duncan said. but any network as it disperses gets more difficult to defeat. you can't allow them the ability to plot and plan and train and motivate. and the things we are seeing right now that they are doing to people in iraq and syria are a demonstration of how emboldened they are. it is not because they are psychotic killers, it's because the ends justify the means for isis. anything is fair game in pursuit of muhammad's holy warriors.
they are able to recruit and they are emboldening them around the world and because we can't crush that beating heart they will spread making the world a much more dangerous case. >> plausible denyiability how frustrating is that. >> you can't win when you can't name -- isis believes everyone should give up our faith and pluralism and freedoms, that's what they want around the world and are attracting a lot of people because of it. they are a growing movement that has a base of support much broader than this white would ever admit across that region. only a small percentage will pick up arms or blow themselves
up a large majority of muslims support a slee law that is a dangerous thing. if we see it continue we are lr seeing it spread to libya as a threat the threat gets worse. islam is the communism of our day, we need 20to confront it now before it gets more difficult to defeat. >> thank you. this pilot saved them before they came close to crashing. that pilot is now terrified. we'll tell you what happened. and leaked photos of beyonce outraged fans. what is wrong with it. we'll tell you about it. you can't predict the market. but
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possibly deadly situation in skies above houston. happening a lot there. hit with green lasers as trying to land plays. these incidents happen thousands of times each year. how dangerous is this. joining us is pilot who has been lasered about a dozen time. >> yeah about a dozen time. i was helicopter pilot in houston so being low level you get exposed to the environment a lot more. people think is a joke. just 24e arethey are playing with their lasers and it is not really a joke at all. >> here's the numbers 3894 incidents last year recorded by the faa.
why houston, why is it happening there more than other places. >> i think it is just reported here more than other places. high density with high air traffic. we have two major airports in houston, more aircraft coming in and out and more people around. >> here's the ground. it is happening between midnight and 7:00 a.m. most happening about 7:00 about 3:00 a.m. it is happening about a thousand feet off the ground. >> right. on approach to landing the aircraft is pointed to the runway and the pilots are focused outside perfect time for a laser to be shined in their eyes, their reaction will be to be startled worse case would be flash blindness most critical
phase of flight can create a great hazard. >> we just showed the glare, it's amazing 250 passengers have no idea you are real heroes in that situation. your body jumps, suddenly something is happening and you're not in auto pilot. what is happening with your body connect the to that throttle. >> well if you're on the controls of the aircraft it's the startle eventuallyffect. you jump and the aircraft moves with you. any time the pilot jumps it is not a good thing. the aircraft will lurch with him. >> and the laser gets brighter and stronger the closer you get to it. >> yeah like anything it spans out with distance, if you point it on your hand you have a
pinpoint spot from 600 feet away it gets to be larger up to 3 feet in diameter that could create a huge obstruction in the cockpit. >> what would you say to people who think this is a joke something to do late at night. >> it's not. if you want to shine it on a ground, great, across a field, great, but not at aircraft, it's hazard, it's not safe, you can create an accident. we don't need that to happen. >> michael turner great to see you, thanks for your insight. frightening. >> thank you i appreciate it. coming up on the show major developments in the american sniper trial. the sister saying her brother was psychotic and paranoid days before the murder. and the jail employee gets the scare of her life when an
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>> yeah. >> waaa. oh, oh! he's okay. [ laughter ] >> oh, boston. >> all my friends and family there. >> we were talking about that. i said did you see the videos slow motioned head dives into the snow. >> they have been diving off the roofs of boston college into no 12340e for years. >> that's right please be careful if you're doing that. we're going to move now to extreme weather. nation is frozen, dozens of roots buckling under the weight of eight feet of snow. >> that weighs a lot. as two more winter storm systems will blast across this weekend bringing even more snow to the northeast. >> the wings of a small plane
completely covered in ice in nashville. any release. >> unfortunately not that soon. by sunday could see a break in the weather pattern along parts of the east coast but overall looks like next couple days and even another week we will see temperatures well below average across the northeast and mid-west mid-west. it is extremely cold for minneapolis, chicago and cleveland numbers well below zero and down into places like atlanta and memphis, wind chill in the single digits. really got to bundle up. look farther west, parts of texas, southwest, and into seattle temperatures are pretty mild. not bad for them. just a sharp contract many temperatures across the country. friday morning we could set records across the great lakz across the northeast.
detroit ten degrees below zero. and here's a quick look at a storm system produceing heavy snow this morning. winter storm warning is in effect. back to you. half a dozen dog owners are devastated after two guys steal a doggy day care van at gun point. happened while they were stopped at a red light. the suspects walked up to him and pointed a gun in his face. >> jumped out the car quickly and at that point the guys just jumped in one on each side and sped away. >> well they got stuck with the dogs in the backseat. unclear if they realized they were there, the owners hope someone will hear the dogs barking and will call police. a search is on for an inmate that escaped from a county jail
in idaho. he climbed into the ceiling worked through the crawl space and popped out of the cleaning closet in the front lobby startling the cleaning lady and bolted out the front door. the jail doesn't have enough money to keep two guards on duty at all times. and the new hit song," i woke up like this". ♪ i woke up like this ♪ ♪ >> okay. well the newly released photos show how the supervisor star looks without any photo shopping, you see some lines and blemishes, some were outraged, one tweeting we all have imperfectie's beautiful. stop hating. make up can cover up a lot. >> i don't have scars across my
face, do you heather. >> of course not. >> she looks great no matter what. >> nobody is perfect. dramatic testimony in the american sniper trial. his sister talking, saying he took their souls before they could take his. i asked what he meant he said they were out to get him. she then called 9-1-1. >> he said he killed two guys, went out to a shooting range. he's all crazy. all psychotic. i don't know if he's on drugs or not. >> here to break down the developments, judge, your reaction. >> good morning guys. it's unremarkable but it is what lawyers call laying the foundation meaning it's getting the evidence out there that eventually psychiatrists watching this testimony will say
on the basis of the description of his behavior immediately after the killings and by the way on the basis of the 15 hours that i spent this his jail cell interviewing him, there's no question in my mind he can't tell right from wrong. that's what the defense will say. the evidence from the sister and mother gives ammunition to the defense. then the government's experts will say we administered the same test and in our opinion he's weird and bizarre but knows right from wrong and the jury has to decide which team of experts they agree with. there's no question he pulled the trigger and caused their death, the question is what was going on in here at the time. >> sure. and some of the video released earlier, when he was in the back of the squad car, earlier
testimony was that he was drunk and smoking weed and that sort of boo behavior was perhaps consistent with that but yesterday his family saying he just wasn't right. >> it is obvious his family knew he wasn't right. it is also obvious he is not normal, maybe because of his experiences in the military or some other cause. the question is, does it rise to the level, when he pulled the trigger he thought he was shooting a sack of potatoes rather than two human beings. in the opinion of the defense it does rise to the level. i will tell you it is a very difficult defense, especially in texas, rarely does an inin sanity defense work. >> his girlfriend said the government was listening to him and she was held hoft age. >> these are all signs of
paranoia. >> he was eventually taken to the mental hospital there. >> oh, yeah. >> and so testimony from physicians will play into this as well. >> yes. >> is that a defense, insanity. >> paranoia breeds insanity. often people who are insane are paranoid. paranoid alone doesn't equal insanity insanity and alone doesn't make you know right from wrong. >> do they need to prove that he saw chris kyle as someone mart of the government and he was trying to protect himself. >> that would help. here's the thing they got to get his weirdness to the jury via
his family members and people who observed him and not from his own mouth. >> that's what is happening right now. >> and in the the days coming. >> thank you. coming up thursday. how does it make you feel, thousands of illegals set free from prison and the government says they have no idea whether they have committed crimes or where they are at. full details straight ahead. and are you stressed out. we have the number one cause of that stress and how to fix it coming to you next. >> lack of coffee? ♪ ♪ music ♪ is this the year you take the trail less travelled?
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first, 5,000 is the number of illegal immigrants who were either arrested or fled the country, not keeping close enough tabs on high-risk illegals and don't know whether they committed a crime or where they are at. great. next, eight, va workers fired for manipulating wait time. sect bob mcconnell claimed to have sacked 60 employees but new data shows they were just disciplined. and finally, 51 ounces the number of beer sales jump on weekend ebt issues. you can see by the numbers, beer sales gone up. let's see the number one cause of stress in this country is money of course it could be hurting your health.
one in five people have skipped or considered skipping a doctor's visit due to finances. >> look at that number. how can you avoid this vicious cycle. good morning doctor. so, stress affected your health how? >> huge. 70% of all doctor's visits related to stress. 80% of all illnesses related to stress. you gain more weight. you have a higher risk of heart attacks. you are not sleeping well and all that worry accumulates to every disease from heart disease to cancer and number one cause of stress is money worries. >> we don't think as much that it is stress. >> meanwhile your whole lifestyle is affected by it. >> you will break it down how it
reduce your medical bills. a lot of people fear it will be too high to go to the doctor. the number one way is to pay today. >> because the doctors are not making as much money as they used to. if a patient comes in and says i have a lesser amount. used to be we barttered with chickens. a farmer would say i don't have any money, take a chicken or i will give you part of my crops now just pay something towards what you owe, most doctors will take it. >> you also say disclosed family income. >> because if a doctor knows you're sick, not feeling well you can say, look, i'm not making that much money dock i don't feel well, they are more likely to make a deal with you. >> say you got four mouths to feed. or pile on the compliments, it really works. >> administrators and hospitals
are used to people coming in to complain, i can't pay this and they put up the wall this is what it says officially but if you talk and tell your sob story, seriously, it works. people will feel for you, they are more likely to make a deal. >> and you say don't take out your emotional state on the person helping oughtyou at the doctor's office. >> why should you. make them relate to you as a person. >> great advice. >> so you can get those $7 tylenol taken off. >> bring a chicken. >> great advice. >> by the way if they are not open to adjusting they are the wrong doctor. >> by the way you look hand some. >> you sure do. it's an illegal loophole is
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a fellow there lawyer claims he found a legal loophole that let's anybody beat a dui checkpoint. according to his web site, fairdui.org, it's as easy as not opening up your car window and not saying a word. a video demonstration has gotten more than 2 million views on the internet. take a peek. >> i want my attorney. but also on the flyer i have my valid registration, my valid insurance, and my driver's license. >> the big question is, is this encouraging drunk drivers just to beat the law? joining us is attorney and author of "fair dui, warren" and steve is an attorney with a specialty in dui law. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> so warren, let me get this straight, if you're pulled over at a checkpoint you simply hold up this flyer that you've got and it says i'm not going to open the window. i want to talk to my attorney. i remain silent. no searches. i want my lawyer.
you've done this. explain why it's working. >> because the police are very restricted in a checkpoint to what they can do. the guidelines are they're supposed to ask to see your license and you show it to them through the window. their guidelines don't give them more leeway than that. the courts have been limiting on what they can do in a checkpoint. you're he complying. i think people think this is confrontational with police. you're complying with the checkpoint. you're stopping. you're asserting your rights which you have every right to do, and showing the police officer the documents he needs to see. we've done about eight of these, the police officers are fine they let us go. >> so in other words, the police officers are simply reading that along and by law, you don't have to open up your window? >> correct. certainly people who disagree with me about this. and the key is you don't voluntarily roll down your window. if you're ordered to roll it down, i think in general it's good idea to follow the police's orders and not get beat up or whatever. but if it's an order now you
have something i can use to defend you in court if something comes up later. if you volunteer it, you sacrificed an argument i need to defend you. >> steve, you got a problem with this. what is it? >> a couple of problems. number one what you're doing in essence by holding up this sign is you're drawing attention to yourself, which is not what i think you want to do when you're going through one of these checkpoints. you could very well be waved on without any interaction depending how it's designed. the other problem is what you alluded to previously, is that this may be encouraging a conflict with the police who are not familiar with this particular type of tactic and the individuals who may be displaying this sign, if they are asked to lower that window they may be under the false impression that they don't have to do that and then you're asking for trouble. i think that you did a real disservice to any individual that has to go through one of these checkpoints. >> warren, aren't you afraid, by showing people how to do this, some drunk drivers are going to
wind up getting through the checkpoint and could cause some serious damage to themselves or other people? >> no, i don't worry about that at all because this is something that is difficult to do if you're drunk. it requires you to be patient and remain silent and follow instruction. those are things police test for when they have you on the side of the road. they look for whether you follow instructions well. these are things that if you're able to do this, then you should do well on the road side test anyway. >> steve, i'll give you the final word. >> the bottom line is, you should roll down your window. that's the bottom line. that's what these checkpoints are designed to do is for the police to be able to detect whether or not you are in fact intoxicated. if you're not rolling down that window, you're in essence getting in the way of the police investigation, which has already been deemed to be constitutional by the u.s. supreme court. >> all right. good discussion. warren, the author of "fair dui" and steve raiser we thank you both for joining us today. >> thank you.
coming up, "american sniper" breaking alt kinds of records because emotional scenes like this. >> the thing that haunts me are all the guys that i couldn't save. >> you won't believe the r experts are saying it has no chance of winning best picture. more and more people running from the conflict in syria right to the united states. could the white house also be let not guilty dangerous terrorists? former secretary of state donald rumsfeld joins us live to react next hour. ♪
?í/y good morning. it is thursday, february 19. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they are slaughtering innocent people in the name of allah. but president obama says this fight against isis has nothing to do with religion. and some of the terrorists might have a legitimate gripe.
>> he's leaving office, but not without one last parting shot. eric holder set to sue the ferguson police department for racial discrimination, even though civil rights charges were dropped in the michael brown case. so is this really about law or something else? meanwhile, it's the most popular movie in the country today. "american sniper." but this morning word that it's already been ruled out by some as best picture and you won't believe the reason why. you want to know? put down the remote. you're watching live from new york, "fox & friends." >> you're watching "fox & friends". >> today one of our friends, creighton, is here. brian is off. good to have you here. >> always good to see you. >> thanks for being with us. heather nauert is here with all that's going on this morning for you. >> good morning to you. russia is at it again. listen to what they're doing now. we start this hour with a fox news alert. royal air force jets scrambling
to intercept russian bombers off the coast of cornwall, england. the typhoon fighters escorted them until they were out the area. a royal air force spokesman saying the bombers never made it into british air space. many believe it's a show of power, one again, by the russians. also developing, potentially deadly super bug cause ago massive scare at a california hospital. nearly 180 patients at the ucla medical center may have been exposed to an am antibiotic resistant bacteria that was carried on medical instruments that was used. seven people who received procedures have already been infected by this and doctors are now trying to figure out if that bacteria is to blame for two deaths. the hospital is keeping a close eye on patients who have had surgeries between october and january. we'll follow that story. the justice department reportedly ready to sue the ferguson missouri police department over what it claims
are racial discrimination tactics. that investigation stems from a lawsuit that was filed by low income residents accusing police officers of targeting minorities with traffic tickets and jailing them if they couldn't pay the fine. the justice department will reportedly sue ferguson pd if it does not make changes to work better with minorities. this coming days before the results are released in the civil rights investigation of the michael brown shooting. "american sniper," the most popular movie in the country why are movie experts saying it won't win best picture this sunday at the oscars? we remember that sweet scene. the fake baby in the film causing a big stir on the internet and some believe that's why it won't win. what? the story goes that on the day of the shooting the real baby it had a fever and could not make the shoot. so the back up baby was a no show. the director said go get a doll.
not sure what that has to do with it. >> so the story is because they used a doll and not a real baby, it won't win an oscar? >> yeah. we're still looking into that one. >> the doll can't win. >> the baby is not nominated for an academy award. under all the union guidelines, if there is like a fake actor that maybe gets voted out -- >> i think we need one or two more details in that story. >> now this, a fox news alert for you. as isis marches through the middle east slaughtering innocent people, president obama holds a summit on violent extremism. >> the president still refusing to mention islamic terrorists or radical islam even saying we aren't at war with islam. >> that's right. this morning the cover of the new york post says islamic terror, i just don't see it. leeland vittert is covering this live from our dc bureau. >> reporter: good morning. the anti-violent extremeism, counterterrorism summit continues today, although the white house has been hard
pressed to explain the deliverables, meaning exactly what will come out of the discussion. and still they are refusing to label even isis as islamic terrorists. the president's speech to muslim leaders was rich with language yesterday afternoon, but short on how the u.s. would win on the battlefield against isis. instead focusing on how to help muslims. >> we do have to address the grievances that terrorists exploit, including economic grieveances. poverty alone does not cause a person to become a terrorist. any more than poverty causes someone to become a criminal. >> he is insulting so many of reform minded muslims who are trying to reject and push back thoecracy while he's saying they're coming out of thin air and it's a crime education and a job problem, which is absurd and oversimplifying.
>> reporter: the conference comes as the president is under growing pressure about his language when talking about islamic terrorism. his victims and its perpetrators. in the president's op ed in the los angeles times, that discuss the anti-extremism conference he only briefly mentioned the 21 christians beheaded in libya. you might remember the white house statement overt weekend only referred to them as civilians. back to you in new york. >> that's right. thank you very much. we'll talk more about that in just a minute. what's interesting about what we just reported right there we know the president is not going to call them islamic extremists or muslim radicals or any of that. we just know it's not in his dna right now. >> he feels as though it might legit mayes their religion. >> these organizations are trying to get their followers to slaughter nonbelievers and muslims who are moderates as well. but the new part is -- we kind of heard this from the spokesperson from the state department a couple days ago -- that the problem is these people have legitimate grievances.
they need jobs. so what was the legitimate reason behind the brothers at the finish line in boston? keep in mind these are subhumans who kill 13-year-olds for watching soccer and rape six-year-olds as well. >> we've seen terrorists in the past, when go into the history books of recent you see the leaders of such violent movements had jobs and haven't come from the poorest of communities. >> charles krauthammer says this president is completely out of touch with reality. he was on "special report" last night talking about these special grievances, this idea of giving these terrorists jobs. listen to charles. >> it sounds like a community organizer talking about outreach to begrieved communities. if you listen to the president today and his emphasis on islamic grievances on reaching out, on making muslims feel comfortable and not excluded you would think that we are responding to the execution the
beheading of 21 muslims on behalf of 21 extreme christians somewhere in the world. it is so divorce from reality, as if the problem is the lack of understanding of muslim grievances particularly in the middle east. we talk about root causes as if that's going to make any difference whatsoever. >> they're different from al-qaeda. the white house continues to lump isis together with al-qaeda in the way in which they feel they can get to the root of this. many members of al-qaeda go and shop like we do. and isis can't stand them. they call them moderns that these other terrorists are using modern conveniences. isis is different from al-qaeda. so you're not going to be able to get to the root cause by trying to change their opinion, give them jobs. you have to wipe them off the face of the earth. >> you're not going to get to the root cause if you can't get to the root cause. if you don't want to say what's going on. >> you guys need to lay off of
them because they've got legitimate grievances. >> what are they? >> before you behead somebody, what's your beef? >> we're asking the administration to name who the enemy is, which is but it also -- it was a delay of game when it came to identifying those 21 christians who were beheaded by the water. the white house statement initially called them citizens. fellow citizens. this is what they said: we offer our condolences to the families of the victims and our support to the egyptian government and people as they grieve for their fellow citizens. it was not until the pope and millions of people stood up and said, wait a second. why are you not naming them as christians who were slaughtered? isis themselves says they took their swords and cut their heads off called them people of the cross. >> right. the curious thing there is they would not refer to them as christians, even though they were beheaded because they were christians. and yet, it was noted yesterday during the press briefing ed henry was talking to josh
earnest about how they ignored the fact they were christians, and yet the white house put out a statement about the brutal murders of three young muslims in chappell hill, even though the crime may have been over a parking dispute. >> that's an awful tragedy that those three died. it's still being investigated. there is nothing that has linked faith tho this so far. >> the paper that came out -- >> christians killed by muslims is that relevant? >> it sure is because the isil extremists who carried out this attack indicated that the reasons they were killing them wasn't just because they're egyptian but because they're christian. >> why were you not clear on sunday? why didn't you say 21 christians were killed? >> i tried to be clear here. i can't account for that specific line in the statement. >> yeah. ed was pointing out that statement from the white house was written by josh earnest. it was released under his name.
that's why he was grilling him on that. >> of course. every right to do so there. yeah the white house there naming faith in one case until they investigated and unable to name it when it's clear as day to everybody else that christians were murdered at the hands of isis but they couldn't initially say it. so you get ready for college and think i'm grown. you pack up your bag your goods, you move into your dorm room you and think you're all grown up. there is one liberal college professor there who says no no. everyone thinks you're grown up when you get to college, but you are wrong. he says at the university of chicago professor, they're up in arms and see the rules as an assault on free speech and individual liberty. they think universities are treating students like children and they are right. students are children, not in terms of age, but in terms of maturity, even in college. they must be protected like children while being prepared to be adults. so really denying students the rights of adults because you don't think they're mature. >> it's an interesting debate. he's making the argument that you're just not ready for it. you're immature. you're children when you get to
college. >> please be quiet. you don't know what you're talking about until you're in your late 20s before you can get out there and hold protests and have all of these free speech marches and hand out pamphlets. just sit in your dorm room and keep quiet. >> eric posner, the professor there, he's also a writer for slate. we're not sure if this is just a provocative piece or not. but apparently he's that procter parent. >> let me play devil's advocate. i went to college with some guys that probably shouldn't have been in college. they were like children. and they dropped out after a short amount of time. is he covering everyone in a blanket statement? >> is it romper room or is it -- look, if you're 18 years old, you're an adult. >> that's right. by law. >> just because you're in college doesn't mean you have given up your constitutional rights. >> you can fight in a war. >> you would think that he would understand it because he's a professor at the university of chicago law school. >> he even said this the crack down on freedom of speech isn't
limited to classrooms. he also believes they should not have freedom of speech anywhere on campus. they should create a more positive environment because they're too offensive. >> didn't liberals always put out that college campuses were the bastion of free speech, that's that's where go to free flowing ideas? >> perhaps some of the children on the campus aren't agreeing with what he says. so he wants to silence them. let us know what you think. straight ahead the state department spokesperson took a lot of heat for claiming more jobs would stop terrorists from killing people. now she's doubling down, blaming george bush. >> george w. bush talked about poverty being one of the drivers that leads people to extremism. >> is that true? we're going to talk to former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld who worked for president bush next. and ice, ice, busted. big trouble for vanilla ice. ♪
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long before president obama coined isis as the jv team, the american people were warned islamic extremists are gaining strength and won't give up until we're dead. in 2003, secretary of defense donald rumsfeld issued a memo
that said quote, it is pretty clear that our coalition can win in afghanistan and iraq in one way or another but it will be a long, hard slog reference to al islam. one of isis' many precursors. we are just getting started. donald rumsfeld joins us right now from our nation's capitol. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning. i'm afraid what i wrote in that memo to my colleagues has turned out to be true that it has been a long, hard slog. >> it has been. you made it very clear what they were going to do. they did it. did this administration drop the ball? >> i think that this administration is in a serious state of denial and doesn't want to face up to the reality that there are people out there that are determined to kill innocent men, women and children and they're jihaddists and they are a minority in the muslim faith.
but you can't defend everywhere at every moment against every possible technique. you have to go after them and kill them or capture them. there isn't any other choice. it's too bad. but that's the reality. >> there is another choice aside from killing them or capturing them and that is giving them jobs. listen to this. >> george w. bush talked about poverty being one of the drivers that leads people to extremism. where there are lacking in these kinds of opportunities, we need to talk about how to make that different, how to help our partners around the world give young men in that vulnerable age group a different path in life, show them that there is a different chance for them than joining a terrorist organization. >> what do you think about that? >> well, i think it's a little insulting to people who are jobless or poor to suggest that that is the cause of terrorism. the overwhelming majority of people who are jobless are not terrorists. they don't strap bombs on their children or their women and send
them into a shopping center to kill innocent men women and children. what is true is that there is a radical element in a jihaddist element in that faith that is taking over these and teaching young people not how to get jobs, but teaching them how to go out and kill people. i think that -- her comments sound a little like a high school debate and she got the wrong side of the argument assigned to her. >> it does look pretty foolish. but according to the president these guys have legitimate beefs. they've got legitimate grievance s. >> well, i'd have to hear what he has to say about the kind of grievances that inspire and authorize a person to go out and execute christians and jews and cut off heads and blow up shopping centers and attack jewish delis and desecrate
jewish graves. i can't imagine someone thinking that there is a grievance that encourages or permits or authorizes or blesses, if you will, that type of behavior. it's outrageous. >> it is outrageous. donald rumsfeld joining us from washington d.c. today. thank you very much for getting up early with us. >> thank you. coming up, a new law would track every bullet you fire with a traceable stamp. is that necessary or an attack on our second amendment? that's coming up. and you don't need to spend money for that fancy latte. just go to your microwave. does that work? elisabeth is testing that out. this could change everything.
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first up, zero dollars. president obama giving all fourth graders and their families free admission to national parks for an entire year. he hopes it will get kids more active outside. the $20 million cost comes out of the national park budget. next, 21. the 21st of march, that's the earliest you will get the thin mint cookies you ordered. the favorite girl scout flavor delayed because of high demand. and finally $167,000. the cash value of all the goodies in this year's oscar bags. among the items, losing nominees will receive an italian vacation. $20,000 worth of audi rentals, and a $1,200 bicycle. they need it. >> fancy stuff. take a listen to this. a new law aimed at gun owners in california would track every bullet that they fire with a traceable stamp. the only problem is that gun
makers say they can't get the technology to work. so far zero guns have been able to meet the new requirements. is this really necessary in terms of law or is it a covert attack on your second amendment rights? joining us now is larry king, senior vice president for the national shooting sports foundation. thank you for joining us here today. >> pleasure to be here. >> so what are your thoughts on this stamping because the group bringing this says hey, we have nearly half of the crimes involving guns go unsolved. this would be the solution. you say? >> in concept it might be an aid to law enforcement. but in reality, the technology simply doesn't work. it's impossible to the manufacturers to comply with the requirements of the law. so as a consequence, california has a slow motion gun ban. california will become like cuba is to cars. citizens in california will only be able to get old models because new models of hand guns cannot be introduced to the marketplace in california because the manufacturers can't
comply with this law. law enforcement doesn't support it either. >> law enforcement does not support it? >> atf has said fraternal order of the police association have all said this ought to be studied further before it's mandated and the patent holder the inventer said this should not be mandated into law and studied further. all the peer reviewed independent studies that have y the university of california-davis and by the national research council, all reached the same conclusion. the technology doesn't work. it doesn't produce the information reliably consistently legibly and that the markings on the firing pin, very shallow, half the diameter of a human hair. you could remove those markings with a nail file in your purse. >> they're that easily removed? >> yes. >> in saying, if a bullet does not have this micro stamping and
the manufacturers cannot manufacturer a gun that meets the requirements, then they can't sell them and a person who wants the gun can't get them. >> and under federal law, if you are a resident of california, you can not buy a hand gun anywhere else but california. you can't buy a hand gun in another state. so all the residents of all the other states can buy the new improved and better models of pistols, but if you're a citizen of california, you can't. you can only buy the older models and no new models of pistols have been introduced into california since the law became effectsive and no new models will be introduced into california because the manufacturers, it's impossible to comply with the requirements of the law. >> seems almost unconstitutional at this point to some. let me ask you this: those that say those unsolved crimes, this is the way to solve it. we have too many that go without answers. this seems to be the right solution. and you say there is a better way and it needs more time to be tested?
>> we have said consistently and told the california legislature when they were considering this bill, we would support a federal study to try to find out whether this technology can be made to work the way the patent holder conceives it. but the reality is it doesn't do that now. and even if it did, i don't know that this would actually help law enforcement very much because the average gun that's traced being used in crime was originally sold at retail over 11 years prior to the gun being used in a crime. so you're talking about almost 12 years before you get any useful information. so it's really not going to assist law enforcement and most guns used are stolen anyway. >> it's a huge assault on constitutional rights. >> there is a lawsuit in federal court to declare it unconstitutional and there is a state court action to declare the law invalid because it can't be complied with. >> larry, we want to thank you for being with us today. >> thank you for having me. now this coming up nfl star
collin kaepernick attacking a fan on twitter saying this you got eight followers, bro. your own family don't even want to know what you're doing. but this morning that fan is getting the last laugh. we're going to tell but it. former new york city mayor rudy guiliani taking serious heat for saying that president obama, quote, doesn't love america. what did he mean by that? well, we're going to ask him as he walks right in to the curvy couch. ♪ ♪
you don't need four bucks over at starbucks to buy that fancy frothy latte. according to a new viral video, all you need is a glass jar, some milk and a microwave. set the timer at one minute, shake, and enjoy. does it work? >> elisabeth is in our green room checking and testing this out. what do you think? >> so i had this thing on for a
minute. final second brewing there. you're supposed to take it out after one minute with a glass or jar half full of the milk. cover it. shake it up for some 30 seconds or a minute. i'm always bad at following a recipe. >> i thought it was supposed to be glass. >> you use what you have. we're testing the plastic version here. you shake it up rapidly, then pour the frothy milk. look at that. >> that looks like a latte. what do you think about this? so i'm going to bring this in. this looks like your $4 espresso latte you would get. >> except that's in china. >> look at this. i got a little fancy. i'll bring this in to you and let you try on the curvy couch. >> it's not exactly latte colored. we're going to taste test that in a moment. right now, we have some headlines that start with the weather. >> yes. it's 14 degrees outside here in new york city. cold in much of the country.
it is an extreme weather alert to bring you right now. subzero temperatures criminalling much of the nation. it's so cold that a water main break in baltimore maryland freezing the cars to the street. look at that. and then in the south a rare ice storm making a mess on the roads. cars sliding around on slick highways in tennessee. nasa releasing the satellite picture of an ice and snow covered new england. more snow is expected in the northeast this weekend. boy. then there is the fight for faith to tell you about. a georgia fire chief who says that he was fired over his christian beliefs is now going to be suing the city of atlanta. calvin cochran claims he was let go last month over a men's devotional book that he wrote back in 2013. it included a section about his views against same sex marriage. that suit demanding cochran, one of the nation's most decorated firefighters, be reinstated. then ice ice, busted?
♪ ♪ >> he is in some trouble this morning. he is facing burglary and grand theft charges in florida. palm beach county police say the recording artist allegedly stole from an abandoned home that was next door to a house that he's renovating for his home improvement show, the vanilla ice project. police finding stolen items, including furniture, a pool heater, and bicycles inside his home. the rapper now out on bail. and san francisco 49ers quarterback collin kaepernick he's in the news for all the wrong reasons. he's lashing out at a fan who believed that he was questioning his work ethic. it all started when he tweeted this, 1,000 abs arm workouts ten minutes straight on the jump rope. we call it a recovery day. a fan replied saying his ab workout won't help him fight an
open receiver. going back and forth until he said, you got eight followers bro. your own family don't even want to know what you doing. better get a life. one thing is for certain that fan has almost 2,000 followers now. the former 49ers head coach jim harbaugh previously criticized the player for getting too involved on twitter. you got all that? those are your headlines. i'll see you in a little bit. >> don't pay attention to trolls. and here is elisabeth with that latte. >> we have the mayor here. >> made just in our "fox & friends" microwave down the hall. >> have you ever had a latte served to you by a beautiful girl? >> no. >> the first home made latte for you. >> did you put coffee in it? >> i followed these online instructions to make it so you don't have to spend $4 on your latte. >> is there any coffee in it?
>> some. >> enjoy that beverage. thank you for joining us here this morning on the curvy couch. >> by the way, we'll have the recipe for this on our web site. >> it's pretty good. >> mr. mayor, we set you up softly. you're coming under fire for some comments you made last night. we want to get your take on this. you were at a private fund-raiser for scott walker and you basically said -- well, it's being construed as whether or not you're challenging the president's patriotism. you said this: when i hear the president speak, i don't believe that he expresses the love of america as much as he does criticism of america. what do you mean by that? >> first of all, i'm not questioning his patriotism. he's a patriot, i'm sure. what i'm saying is that in his rhetoric i very rarely hear him say the things that i used to hear ronald reagan say, the things i used to hear bill clinton say about how much he loves america. i do hear him criticize america much more often than other american presidents. when it's not in the context of overwhelming number of
statements about the exceptionalism of america, it sounds like he's more of a critic than he is a supporter. you can be a patriotic american and be a critic, but then you're not expressing that kind of love that we're used to from a president. >> sure. that kind of goes along with what the president wrote yesterday in the l.a. times where he was talking about isis which as we all know, islamic terrorists. he won't say islamic. but he said they have legitimate concerns. put yourself in their shoes. >> i think in the context of what we're facing right now, this is very very damaging statement. >> why? >> because we're facing are people chopping people's heads off, burning people killing people because they're christians, killing people because they're jews. the president who won't acknowledge that. so what he's got to do if he wants to create a bottle of ideas, a battle for the hearts and minds of people we got to call it something. you and i cannot have a
discussion about which is a better idea, islamic extremism or let's say moderate islam, if we don't describe it as extreme -- >> he says it's a lie. he says we treat them as religious leaders, as a real state, then it's ally. but that's precisely what isis wants. they are a state. they have a bureaucracy. >> okay, fine. put isis aside. >> what about iran? iran has been an islamic extremist murdering state biggest sponsor of terrorism for the last 30 years. right now the biggest sponsor of terrorism. filled with ayatollahs who murder people. more people have died under rouhani than abjinabab. if you can't connect the dots, you can't combat it militarily.
gentleman you have had many generals and colonels tell you that. but you also can't have the battle of ideas. what i question about the president, maybe it's even broader that he doesn't express love of america enough, which i don't think he does. he talks more about criticism than about what an exceptional country we are. maybe i'm missing something. but i don't feel that. i don't also believe he expresses a love of western civilization that he should or understanding of western civilization or what western civilization has brought to the world. it's had grave grave faults, terrible sins but it's also gone through things like the protestant reformation the catholic counter reformation. we have three different forms of judaism, reformed, conservative orthodox. they all live together. one time they did stone each other a long time ago. but how about we talk about how we get islam into the modern age where there is a recognition that you have to have this kind of debate within your religion
and it's got to come out in the open. it's got to be discussed. if you refuse to say that there are extremist members of the islamic religion, then it sounds like you're living on mars. >> they're using the religion as the touchstone to justify what they're doing. >> as others have in the past. >> forever. >> but that's a long time ago. in the modern world, they're the ones who are doing it and you got -- if you're going to debate it, you got to call it what it is. you also have to describe our country correctly. our country is not just any other country. we're just not another country. this is an exceptional country as i pointed out in that speech. this is the only country that has fought in two major wars, left its young men in those case behind and took nothing -- took no land, no money. i think colin powell once said all we had for it was a cemetery. that's an exceptional country.
its faults should be the footnote and the headlines should be what a wonderful country we are. >> well said. >> thank you. >> after a big night last night, thanks for getting up early. >> enjoy your latte. >> that will be $2. >> stop. >> it's worth it. >> it's on me. >> at least 4 in new york. >> straight ahead, a young man killed by an illegal driving drunk. up next, his mother on the new plan forcing border patrol agents to give drunk drivers a pass, even if they're in the country illegally.
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around to finish the cup of coffee. >> it was great. i want another one. >> i guess you used to work in the justice department under ronald reagan. we wanted to ask you about eric holder. it sounds like his department of justice, even though the grand jury out in ferguson missouri did not indict that police officer, darren wilson, it sounds -- and no fault so far, they may actually sue the ferguson police department for racial discrimination, unless they make some changes. >> it sounds strange because we've had two complete investigations in which the police officer has been exonerated. we've now had a chance to read the grand jury testimony and he can see the police officer was clearly acting in self-defense. seven witnesses support that in detail. that wasn't even a close case, by the way. that's a case of out and out self-defense textbook variety under criminal law. he then had a chance to investigate it himself, two
three months came to the conclusion, couldn't bring criminal charges. so i don't know. maybe he has something else i don't know. if he's basing it on the garner case, it would be a big mistake. there are other incidents that he has that we don't know about well then he's -- >> the atmospherics back then people in that community were like, this is unjust! somebody's got to help us. you had eric holder said we're going to do something. >> you got to be very careful about this case because there was a lot of lying that went on, or i should say there was some lying that went on in the ferguson case. remember there were the people ho said he was shot in the back. >> that's right. >> they testified, i believe, several testified under oath that he was shot in the back. he was not shot in the back. there is no question about that, from both coroners who examined him. you have some other people ho said he had his hands up. then you had a string of witnesses, african-american, i might add, who said his hands never were up.
>> that's right. >> so you had a lot of exaggerated statements there that turned out to be untrue. so he better watch out that they doesn't base the rest of his case on that. >> holder said he hasn't politicized this department. do you buy that? >> i would say that -- i can't say that he's politicized it. i can say he made some decisions i don't agree with. i can't say that he's politicized it in a sense that they've gone out campaigning they've supported campaigns. as far as i know they followed those rules. but he made decisions i don't agree with. >> fair enough. we're always glad to have you. i'll make you a latte any time. >> now he's leaving. thanks. coming up, a young man killed by an illegal immigrant driving drunk. up next, his mother on the new plan facing border patrol agents to give drunk driving illegals a pass. first on this day back in 1881 kansas became the first state to ban all alcohol. in 2010 golfer tiger woods admitted to having affairs. and the number one song back in
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riving illegal immigrants a free pass. let them go free so they can't sue the federal government. the memo reportedly sent to border patrol agents in the tucson area, even discourages them from calling law enforcement agencies. that too poses a great threat, according to the memo, of a lawsuit. this past may sergeant mendoza
was killed by an illegal immigrant driving drunk. his mother joins us now. nice to have you on the show. first of all, your response to this latest memo leak? >> i'm disheartened and disappointed that the president of the united states has once again made some sort of decision that is going to affect more american lives. he has no idea devastation that this brings and the amount of drunk illegal drivers in arizona that we have to deal with killing americans every year. >> what happened to your son? >> he had just gotten off duty and he was driving home on a freeway in phoenix and an illegal who had been driving 35 miles the wrong way on four different phoenix freeways ran into him head on on an interchange kind of offramp. >> under these new guidelines,
basically he could be let totally free, walk away. here is how the customs and border protection explains itself because of this memo. we only learnd about this because judicial watch got their hands on it. so this was kept quiet. border patrol agents as federal law enforcement officers are not peace officers. under the laws of many states. basically trying to draw a line that they're not police officers. they're border patrol agents. so if they see somebody drunk they can let them go. we don't want them to get sued. >> and so this is obviously letting us know they're targeting illegals to be able to let them go and drunk drive on our highways. >> unbelievable. >> because the border patrol that's what they deal with. number one that i've always said is any time an illegal is here in our country, they're already -- they already have committed a crime. now driving drunk, they're a repeat offender. if any of us -- arizona has some of the strongest dui laws, if any of us american citizens are caught driving drunk our lives
are basically over with with the laws we have to deal with. >> but if you're an illegal you're able to walk free? >> correct. >> unbelievable. >> and kill innocent americans. there is no telling what my son could have gone on to do in his life and his community serving the community that he did and a loss that they felt. so i've been robbed and now the president of the united states is going to allow other families to be robbed of their loved ones' lives. >> heart breaking. we're so sorry for your loss. we thank you for sharing your thoughts this morning and thank you for standing up for this. >> thank you for having me on. 55 minutes past the hour. coming up, your mom said that china is yours. but that's not what her will says. so what happens? will her word stand up? bob massi's legal advice next hour. was one former snl star banished from this week's reunion because she's a conservative? ♪
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good morning. this thursday february 19. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they're burning and beheading innocent people in the name of allah. but this morning's cover of the new york post says it all. islamic terror i just don't see it. more on the president's extremism summit ahead. and he saw the rise of isis back in 2003. so what does secretary of defense, formerly, donald rumsfeld say now? >> this administration is in a serious state of denial and doesn't want to face up to the reality that there are people out there that are determined. >> there are indeed. should the president, the current one, be taking notes
from donald rumsfeld? you'll hear more of what he had to say straight ahead. what's everyone in new england doing with all that snow right now? take a look. >> no! >> what? >> look at that. >> jumping off the roof. looks like fun, right? but the mayor of boston isn't laughing. he has to tell them not to do it. look out for the fence post. >> "fox & friends" hour three starts right now. stay indoors. >> hi, this is victoria jackson. you are watching "fox & friends." >> yes. she's in the news. you'll find out why in a minute. to the point about the people jumping in the snow remember when you were a kid and you would sweep up the leaves and there would be a big pile and you would jump in them? >> yeah. >> not the same thing. >> jumping off a second story. one guy hit a roof on his way down. he had a vestibule sticking out. >> before you launch yourself out of your home into the pile of snow, understand there is also some ice in there.
>> i wonder what the blood alcohol level is on all these people. that guy. >> they have about had it. >> forget this ever happened! >> we're going to tell you more about that in a little bit. but right now we turn over to heather who has got some scary news about a super bug. >> i do. then we'll get to that snow story in just a minute. let's start with a fox news alert. potentially deadly super bug is causing a massive scare at a california hospital nearly 180 patients at the ucla medical center may have been exposed to the antibiotic resistant bacteria. seven people who received procedures were already infected and now doctors are trying to determine if the bacteria is to blame for two deaths that took place. the hospital keeping a close eye on patients who have had surgeries between october and january. also developing at this hour, royal air force jets scrambling to intercept russian bombers off the coast of england just outside of cornwall.
the typhoon fighters escorted two russian bear bombers until they are out of the area. the bombers like these never made it into british air space, but nevertheless, they were concerned about it. many believing this is russia's latest show of power. one former snl cast member mysteriously missing from this week's 40th anniversary special. victoria jackson a cast member for six years says she was banished to the overflow room during sunday's show while all the other cast members were treated like vips. jackson is an outspoken conservative and she's now wondering if she was treated differently because of her political views writing, quote, is it because i believe in the biblical definition of marriage? no comment from nbc. and boston's mayor telling stop it. not
such a good idea. take a look as we show you more of these people up in the boston area. it's a social media trend that are calling it the boston blizzard challenge. they're recording themselves jumping off of roof tops and into huge piles of snow. they've had like eight feet of snow this season. the mayor not impressed. listen. >> i'm asking people to stop the nonsense right now. these are adults. jumping out windows. they seem like it was a fun thing to do, but you have no idea what's happening. it's a foolish thing to do and you could kill yourself. this isn't loon mountain. >> february is already the snowiest month on record. two more winter storms taking aim at the northeast. i love how the lady doing the signing does this sign, the dive sign, as in not a good idea to do this. >> that's right. i bet there is a lot of beer involved, especially with that
guy. what do you think? >> sam adams? >> something. >> thanks, heather. elisabeth was holding up the cover of the new york post today. the president of the united states appeared at that extremist summit yesterday. he would not refer to violent extremeism -- in fact the summit didn't even have islam in its name, even though isis does. the islamic state. >> that's right. >> he refuses to acknowledge what it is. >> isis expanding territory beheading 21 christians by the water, egyptian citizens is what he originally referred to them as. 60 different countries traveled to washington for the summit. representatives from boston minneapolis, where they're instituting programs for influenced minds to give them a job instead. no mention of radical islam and he also went on to say all of
this. >> isil and groups like it are desperate for legitimacy. they try to portray themselves as religious leaders holy warriors in defense of islam. we must never accept the premise that they put forward because it is a lie, nor should we grant these terrorists the religious legitimacy that they seek. they are not religious leaders. they're terrorists. no religion is responsible for terrorism. people are responsible for violence and terrorism. we can't paper over problems. we're not going to solve this if we're always just trying to be politically correct. >> that's ignoring exactly what isis has said publicly. he says trying to portray themselves as religious leaders. we shouldn't give them that credit. they think they're holy warriors in defense of islam. they are not. we should never acknowledge that. but that's precisely what they
say about themselves. they even look down their noses at al-qaeda. they think they're too modern. so this is exactly what they say in their speeches and rhetoric. >> that's why that photo is so important because he's saying if we don't call it then it doesn't legit maze it. in fact, it excises clearly -- exists clearly by name. >> he's right, they're not religious leaders. but they're leaders who use religion and they want to kill us. this is something that donald rumsfeld back in 2003 saw coming. he wrote a memo about it regarding an arrest al-islam which has become islam. he said it's pretty clear that our coalition can win in afghanistan and iraq in one way or another, but it will be a long, hard slog with respect to ansar al-islam. we are just getting started. of course, that became isis. he was with us just about 55 minutes ago and he said this about that. >> the administration is in a serious state of denial and doesn't want to face up to the
reality that there are people out there that are determined to kill innocent men women and children. and they're jihaddists and they are a minority in the muslim faith, but we have -- you can't defend everywhere at every moment against every conceivable technique. you have to go after them and you have to kill them or capture them and there isn't any other choice. it's too bad, but that's the reality. >> but there is one other choice, according to the administration, give them a job. >> right. give them a job. more on that in a moment. or hold an extremism summit and not invite any world leaders which is what the white house did. however, they did invite this guy. he is controversial for a number of reasons, none which have is the comment he made after 9-11 when he was saying look, when you're looking for suspects, look at israel. and he said this about that: if we're going to look at suspects, we should look to the groups that benefit the most from groups that benefit from these
kinds of incidents. i think we should put the state of israel on the suspects' list. that's just one comment on a long list of things. we only know he was there yesterday because he tweeted out that he was there hanging out with vice president joe biden. >> he tweeted this, we joined vice president joe biden for a discussion at the white house #see the summit which kicked off today. >> no world leaders, but he was there. >> a detailed fact sheet was listed on all the controversial statements he made. but he was in attendance where they're talking about terror. >> the white house did not make the guest list public, but attendees for the most part were from muslim groups, not surprising. representative ryan zinky was on the record with greta last night and had this to say about this curious election of that man being invited. >> i think it's a slap in the face to israel. the speaker boehner invites prime minister netanyahu. this administration invites a terrorist sympathizer. i think the contrast is clear. israel has been our partner in
the war on terrorism. i'm speechless because once again, it's a slap in the face of israel and certainly this is why our allies don't trust us and our enemies no longer fear us. >> meanwhile, the white house keeps digging itself deeper and deeper hole because this week the white house issued a press release condemning the violence against those 21 individuals who were decapitated who ended up being christian, by the way. but that was not in the official white house response. josh earnest, who released that statement, was grilled yesterday by our own ed henry to why we didn't acknowledge the fact they were christians when they first released that statement and had to come back and walk it back. >> so this is a statement that originally said officially. we offer our condolences to the families of the victims and our support to the egyptian government and the people as they grieve for their fellow citizens generic. >> fellow citizens. keep in mind then the pope came out and the pope said, look they were killed because they were christians. there is no ifs ands or buts
about it. ed henry yesterday in the briefing room asked josh earnest about his comments. >> why didn't you mention it was 21 christians killed by muslims? >> is that relevant? >> it sure is because the isil extremists who carry out this attack indicated that the reason they were killing them wasn't just because they're egyptian, but also because they were christian. >> given that, why were you not clear on sunday? why didn't you say 21 christians were killed? >> i tried to be clear here. i can't account for that specific line in the statement. >> i can't account for that. >> yeah. so they wouldn't mention the fact that those 21 people were beheaded and they were christians. however, down in chappell hill north carolina, after those three -- this is the statement the white house put out -- the brutal murders of three young muslim americans, the white house pointed toward their religion even though the crime was probably it looks like the investigation is ongoing.
but it looks like it was over a parking dispute. >> the white house first reaction is, you just said was to point to their faith. where -- >> there is no gray area on these people that were beheaded. the children that are also being killed are being told to renounce jesus christ or they will be killed. there is no gray area. >> before they were beheaded, their cries were jesus, help me. help me jesus. >> it's 12 minutes after the top of the hour on this really busy thursday. >> that's right. coming up here a terrorist is on trial in new york city and the information coming out is stunning. like bin laden used mafia style tactics. what's wrong with these pictures? released photos of beyonce outraging her fans. we'll explain why coming up. ♪ ♪
the trial for an alleged al-qaeda operative underway in new york city. 28-year-old nasir is accused of leading a u.k. terror cell that plot to do repeat devastation of 9-11 right here on u.s. soil. he denies the charges. but the prosecution says they found concrete evidence in the raid that killed osama bin
laden, documents in his compound back in 2011. our next guest says the trial underscores the real and present threat to the homeland that still exists. thomas dupree is a former assistant district attorney under the bush administration and the obama administration. nice to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> one of the biggest headlines is the scale to which this attack would have paralleled what we saw on 9-11. how so? >> well, they're trying to link nsair to three attacks, one in kobe am hagan, man chester and new york. the new york attack might have been the most deadly. they appear to have been focusing on an attack on the subway system in new york and it was clearly bin laden's goal to get as close to replicating devastation of 9-11. >> what were they plan not guilty england? >> they were looking at an attack on a shopping mall. so they were attempting to target innocent civilians men, women, children who were just out for the day shopping ordinarily and they would set off a bomb. >> what is the defense trying to say that this guy is some sort of random lackey almost like an intern?
he didn't really have any operational awareness about this plan, did he? >> well, his defense is that he is a complete innocent. i should point out that he made in my judgment a very poor decision to represent himself. it's the same thing that mussaui made. he says he's an ordinary guy. they got the wrong guy. he's innocent. his code messages with bin laden and the other jihaddists were simply innocent messages about dating and searching for a wife when, in fact, it appears the evidence is very powerful that he was planning and coordinating these terrorist attacks. >> some of the big headlines from this trial, and this is not getting a lot of coverage, which i don't understand, but there are a number of documents that will be featured during this trial. eight documents specifically that were found where? >> they were found during the raid in bin laden's compound in pakistan. what makes this particularly interesting is that this really is the first time that we've seen a lot of this evidence that we gathered in that raid. most of what we captured was classified and now it's beginning to be declassified.
this trial is really the first opportunity that many in the public have to see some of the fruits of that raid. >> some of this -- we'll put this up. there was a pledge of allegiance to al-qaeda that was discovered in the raid and it reads this way: i accept your allegiance on behalf of sheik osama to listen in hardship and ease. isis still refers to osama bin laden as sheik. that's pretty terrifying. but we also are learning there could be another large scale attack coming our way, given some of this evidence at this trial. what do you know about that? >> well, what we know about that is that it always was bin laden's objective and it continues to be al-qaeda's objective to strike again in the homeland. there are ongoing plots, the documents we got revealed a bunch of different plots a bunch of different operatives a bunch of different terror cells. i think what this trial underscores is that although our attention often is focused particularly recently on these terrorist attacks that are currently overseas we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the jihaddists are still looking to strike us here at home.
>> members of mi 5 are testifying. how are they going to be testifying? >> that's very interesting. they are going to be testifying at this trial with wigs and make-up to protect their identities from a public trial. this again, underscores that there are ongoing operations, ongoing investigations in england and elsewhere and for that reason, law enforcement and the intelligence community doesn't want to put its agents out there in public view. so they'll be testifying in disguise at this trial. >> wow. fascinating. tom, great to see you this morning. thanks. >> absolutely, thank you. coming up, your mom said that china is yours when she passes. but her will says differently. so what happens? will her word stand up in court? bob massi has legal advice that every family needs to hear. look at this trail blazer. driver pops the curb takes to the sidewalk instead of the highway. what's going on behind the wheel? too much traffic? ♪ ♪
welcome back. 23 minutes past the top of the hour. a few updates for you. a college controversy avoid. reversing its decision to ban all iranian nationals into certain graduate programs and engineering and science. u-mass said they were complying with a 2012 federal law to prevent iran from creating a nuclear program. a florida school that banned a student from saying god bless america during morning announcements is backing down. the nassau county school board decided that the phrase does not promote religion. it simply is a sign of patriot ism. steve? >> allall right. your mom said the china is yours. but her will says something else. so who gets it? what happens? is a will a one stop shopping
way to keep your family out of court? fox news legal analyst bob massi is here with everything you need to know. bob, good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. >> we'll get to the question about china in a moment. but first this is the process we're going through at the doocy house. my dad died a year ago. he didn't have a will. so now we're in the probate stage. explain what that is. >> probate is the process where if you have a will or don't the court acknowledges is that there was a will and, in fact they validate it's a legal document. they appoint the exec it inventory and your wishes are fulfilled, but it's a process of going through the court. people think, steve, when you have a will that it's a vehicle to avoid probate. in fact, when you have a will, it actually ends up in a probate process in the court of law. >> in our case we're in probate because there was no will. but even if you have a will you wind up going through probate,
right? >> either way. no matter what. if you don't have a will or have a will, unless, which we'll talk about, there are certain exceptions that you could avoid that process. >> okay. since you just touched on that, what are the ways to avoid the probate process? >> some of the most common things you could do. obviously the most obvious thing is if you have a life insurance policy, you basically name a named beneficiary. if you have bank accounts, you can name a specific beneficiary called pay upon death. somebody passes, you take the death certificate to the insurance company, to the bank to your stockbroker, they pay directly to you to that person who is the named beneficiary. >> that's so much easier. >> it's easier it's quick it's inexpensive, and in the alternative, you could create what we call a living trust. essentially what that is is a document that you create where let's say husband and wife, you're both what you call the trustees. your assets are transferred into the name of the trust. so the steve doocy family trust. your home is in the trust your bank accounts in the trust.
when you pass, the trust lives on and avoids the probate process. it's a very good vehicle for people to have to avoid the cost of probate. >> all right. what about this, can anybody contest a will? >> well, any interested party in the estate -- this happens a lot, look you get kids who for whatever reason they're estranged from their family and the parents come in. i've had it happen over the years, say you know what? i haven't heard from my son in 20 years. i don't want to give him anything. so you disinherit, which is difficult to do. sometimes i tell them, listen don't even disinherit. give them $1,000 or $500. but if somebody does contest if somebody does contest, there is what's called a no contest provision, meaning that whatever you did get, if you contest it and lose you get nothing. so it's very important that you understand when you see a lawyer that they explain the no contest clause to you. >> and finally, at the top i mentioned mom told me i was going to get the china or she
was going to give me the jewelry in the will. do verbal agreements count? >> cannot tell you how disturbing this is, where mom and dad, their heart is in the right place a verbal representation like that as we covered in an e-mail last week,: generally2iñ?ñ?ñ?ñ?ñ? is never enforceable. that will that trust, they are the controlling document. what you say in good faith and they say, mom said i could have the china and dad said i could have the guns. bottom line is too bad. that final document is your final word. that is the controlling document that a court of law in probate or living trust will dictate regardless of what's said verbally. >> when they say something to us, we put it up here. but they got a lot going on. they forget to write it down. write it all down. folks, if you got questions for bob massi, e-mail him on our web site and click on legal ease logo and who knows, you might be on tv talking about your
question. thanks. coming up on this thursday a college professor says students don't deserve the right to free speech because well they're still kids. he may be going too far. but does he actually have a point? your e-mail pouring in. planes on the left of your screen on a collision course with disaster. you have to see how this ends and we'll show you straight ahead. ♪ ♪
♪ >> it's your shot of the morning. a bird selfie. this bird was caught on the nfl's web cam that's documenting nhl, that is to say. documenting the rink built at levi stadium in san francisco. he dances. he poses. he loves his own surprise bird face. the bird takes a selfy in frisco and that's our shot of the morning. >> his move with the shoulders i like that. >> did you hear what's going on on college campuses? >> they're drinking? >> well, that, and they have those constitutional zones where you can go and actually -- this free speech zones, they have cordoned off where you can go and talk? one university professor university of chicago professor is also a writer for slate, eric posner, he says look, all these college kids, you want all of these freedoms of speech, maybe you need to grow up a little
bit. he said this conservatives and libertarians are up in arms, they see these rules as an assault on free speech and individual liberty. they think universities are treating students like children and they're right. students are children, not in terms of age but in terms of maturity. even in college they must be protected like children while being prepared to be adults. all this clamp down on free speech is fine. >> his op ed was titled universities are within their rights to crack down on speech and behavior. questioning why people are all up in arms about campus censorship that's going on. does he have a point? >> think about it. how many vice presidents for student life and residents life are they? they need something to do. so what do they do? they clamp down on the kids. for the most part, they've straight jacketed them so much the kids have few freedoms. but at the same time, as -- i'm the elder statesman in the chair, i know a lot of college kids in this generation and they are immature.
so he does have a point, they are immature. but when you're 18 years old, you are recognized as an adult. >> legally. >> you wind up with rights under our system of government. but at the same time maybe they need some structure. maybe they too have to grow up. >> what happened to liberals always professing the bastion of universities as the place where free speech happens? >> think tank. >> this is where all ideas are free to flow and now not so much. e-mail from susan this morning, she writes maybe the children we are raising are so protected that an 18-year-old is not the 18-year-old of 20 years ago. they do not have the street smarts these days. their parents have done too much for them. >> jean tweeting that they're 18 plus and can vote, can join the military. then they're not kids. >> she's right. and mark tweets no limits on speech. first take your money and then tell you what you can say. they take a lot of your money as well. >> pay for silence i guess in this case.
>> our thanks to the professor for getting us talking this morning. >> he sure did. we loved your comments as well. now we'll turn to heather with more of what's going on for you. >> good morning. the american sniper trial is resuming in two hours from now. one day after the family of the accused killer took the stand for the defense. eddie ray routh's ex-girlfriend telling the jury that the night before he allegedly murdered chris kyle and chad littlefield, he asked her to not say anything out loud. rather, that she should write down her thoughts saying quote, he said the government was listening to us. routh's sister also testified about her brother's erratic behavior. she had called 911 after he drove to her house and admitted to killing both men at the gun range. listen. >> my brother just came by here [ bleep ] >> he told me he's committed a murder. >> before he left, she said to him, i love you but i hate your
demons. testimony could end by tomorrow with closing arguments on monday. a breakthrough in breast cancer treatment can buy patients more than a year of life. that's what experts are saying. the new cancer includes three drugs. doctors say they are so optimistic about this, that they are rushing to make it the stapped protocol for patients. unbelievable. and red bull air show in india turning tragic, nearly when two planes scraped wings mid flight. take a look. wow. how terrifying. hundreds of fans witnessed that close call and they cheered. both pilots incredible recoveries. check out this photo showing just how close they came to complete disaster. amazing. you know beyonce she sings the lyric, i woke up like this, on her hit song.
take a look. ♪ i woke up like this ♪ ♪ i woke up like this ♪ ♪ flawless. ♪ ♪ tell him i woke up like this ♪ >> we know how beautiful beyonce is. this morning brand-new photos that have been leaked and show her without any photo shopped touchup during a l'oreal ad shoot in 2013. you can see some lines and blemishes, like we all have. but her fans don't seem to mind. one tweeting we all have imperfections. she's beautiful anyway. stop the hating. of course she's beautiful. those are your headlines. >> just keep in mind folks, if there is somebody who appears in an advertisement, particularly in a magazine, they're photo shopped. everybody is photo shopped in magazines. >> her fans are upset that she's exposed as imperfect. >> so that web site took them down because it backfired. >> they heard the fans. >> i woke up like this. >> extreme fans.
>> first, we're going to move to extreme weather. a nation is frozen. dozens of roofs collapsing under the new england weather buckling under the weight of eight feet of snow. it's a record there. maria molina is tracking it all for us. good morning to you. >> hi, good morning. we're tracking the cold. it's still lingering across parts of the midwest northeast and even down into the southeast. take a look at some of the numbers early this morning. windchill temperatures are currently in the single digits as far south as atlanta and also in raleigh. that cold will continue as we head into tomorrow as well. take a look at the high temperatures. really cold across parts of the east. farther west, from texas to california, even up into washington state temperatures are very mild. kind of a ridge pattern that set up across the country. we could look at records being set as we enter into tomorrow morning across the great lakes and northeast. detroit seeing a low temperature at 9 degrees below zero. early this morning, we're also tracking a storm system bringing heavy snow through parts of maine. we have winter storm warnings in effect and more than six inches
of snow possible in some areas. late this weekend we'll be looking at a storm system developing across the center of the nation that's going to have a bit of a mix between thunderstorms and also some snow and freezing rain. so we'll keep you updated. let's head back inside. >> all right. maria, is that lady behind you jumping up and down because she's cold or because she's on tv? >> they're from texas, abilene texas. you love fox news, right? >> absolutely! >> fox news fans! >> megyn kelly! >> all of them! >> we love all of y'all! >> my brother died a couple months ago. i'm here once in a while. i just -- >> thank you so much for coming on. >> he's going to take some pictures outside and get so the autographs. >> they're going to try to stay cozy. great people. we love them back. coming up, a challenge for you this morning on the 70th
anniversary of the battle of iwo jima. >> not a day goes by that i don't think about all those i served with, those we lost. i will always remember their sacrifices. will you? >> up next, how you can help this american hero remember. and a jail employee gets the savior her life when an inmate just pops out of the janitor's closet looking to escape. boom. ♪ ♪
24 minutes past the hour. quick headlines. the search is on for an idaho inmate who escaped county jail by climbing through the ceiling of a utility closet and hiding. he crawled across the rafters
and exited through a closet in the front lobby just as the cleaning lady tried to open the door. watch this. how would you like to see that? there is only one guard on duty at the time. the sheriff blamed budget cuts. here is something you don't see every day. a car paving a new way down a sidewalk. a man in largo florida, saying he spotted the woman on the sidewalk, but couldn't figure out how she got there. of course, it's florida. confused driver finally steers back onto the road after reaching an intersection. steve, you were in florida recently. is that you? >> no. wait a minute. that is me. that's a rental car. >> i thought so. >> elisabeth? >> thanks. one world war ii veteran issuing a challenge to everyday americans. today on the 70th anniversary of the battle of iwo jima. watch. >> this is a frontal of me attending to a fallen marine during the battle of iwo jima. it lasted 36 days.
and it resulted in over 25,000 american casualtyies and about 7,000 american lives. not a day goes by that i don't think about all those i served with those we lost, i will always remember their sacrifices. will you? >> what a patriot there. jim is a chairman of the marine corps law enforcement foundation and they have teamed up with the veteran that you just saw right there in that video for a fund-raiser commemorating the battle called 70 for 70. that's the hashtag and he's here to explain it. thanks for being here. that photo what a defining moment in history. >> yeah. greg has been a member of our foundation for the last 30 years. incredible guy. so few left. the children need to know about things like iwo jima, the sacrifices. we give scholarships to children of the fallen.
if you give us $100, we spend 98.8% of that on the scholarships and on the help for the severely wounded. >> so important for people to understand where that money is actually going. you've helped up to 4,000 children of families, close to 4,000 families with those funding. >> right. >> it's incredible here. this challenge, 70 for 70, what would you like people to do? >> i'd like the people to pick three of their friends and take a video sometime in the next month of them raising the american flag in celebration of this incredible battle. send them to us and if they can send us -- go to our web site and give us $70 or $7, whatever they can spare, i'd like to challenge all the marines out there, the marines veterans, 2 million of them, step up, please. help us take care of the children that are left behind. >> sure. they take care of so much already. they are incredible patriots. but to really commemorate this, it's 36 days of the campaign.
significant. >> yes. >> 36 days of battle. >> yes. >> 7,000 american lives lost there. 25,000 casualties overall. a day that should not be forgotten. 70 for 70 is the hashtag. the web site is mc-lef.org. send your video there is and call on three friends to really challenge three other friends so that this stays in our hearts and honors the great patriots and heros of this nation. >> exactly. the marines will be fighting in the future. we need to take care of their children. >> you are right about that. your foundation certainly does. we thank you for being here. the great work that you do. >> thank you. >> wonderful patriot. now this the state department said we could stop terrorists by giving them jobs. i know. guess what? we just tried. six gitmo detainees. things didn't exactly go as planned in terms of their work. moments from now the president is set to speak at a summit on so-called violent extremism. we are live from the white house with that for you next.
first, we're going to check in with martha mccallum. >> good morning. now vp biden reportedly talks about violence done, quote in the name of the bible. so who is taking credit for the white house push for this moral equivalency? you may be surprised who is patting themselves on the back for this tactic. and the white house talks about the legitimate grievances of isis. ed henry's firey exchange on that and muslim groups and nations beg for our help against isis. so what exactly are we doing militarily? an amazing update on that when we see you at the top of the hour.
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fox news alert. president obama about to speak at a summit on counterterrorism at the white house.
>> yesterday the president still refused to mention islamic terrorists or radical islam. >> so what could we expect today? kevin cork is live at the white house. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, guys. once again, the summit continues today. the president will speak once again. you heard him yesterday talk to attendees here at the summit. while the white house quite honestly has been hard pressed to sort of explain or unpack the deliverables, what to expect after all this talk, the truth is we do know one thing, they're still very hesitant to identify terrorist groups as islamic terrorist groups. among those obviously isis. the president's speech to muslim leaders was rich with language, but truth be told, pretty short on how the u.s. would win on the battlefield against isis. instead once again focusing on how to help muslims. >> we do have to address the grievances that terrorists exploit, including economic grieveances. poverty alone does not cause a person to become a terrorist
any^ more than poverty alone causes somebody to become a criminal. >> he's insulting so many millions of reform minded muslims who are trying to reject and push back theocracy and the leader of the free world is saying well, these terror groups are sort of coming out of thin air and it's just sort of a crime, education and job problem, which is absurd and oversimplifying. >> reporter: as you might imagine, this is obviously a very huge sticking point coming on the heels of the president's continued struggles if you will with labeling terrorism extremism, as islamic extremism. we've heard that so much in the media, but the white house is still very hess has not and they've told me off the record, i think i shared this with you earlier in the summit. they simply don't want this to come out as it's us against islam. it's not that case. but the truth is, we have all seen on many, many occasions that they just seem hesitant to
mention islamic extremism when that's what the terrorists claim. >> on the cover of the new york post, there is the headline today. there is the president with the blindfold. they photo shopped that in. islamic terror, i don't see it. >> while they've been hesitant to call it islamic extremism, they haven't been hesitant in trying to figure out exactly how to solve this problem. >> they got grievance as soons. >> that's according to the state department saying islamic terrorists, they have grievances and the best way to combat that is to get them jobs. >> sure. >> to get them working again. >> ohm problem is that the job for jihadis program isn't going so well. look at this controversy in uruguay. remember the six released there? the president who pushed the program through went to go visit them and after his visit, he said on his radio show, this is the president, said that the former detainees are far from the ancestors of uruguay who are gritty, hard working immigrants,
so those these detainees who were put there, don't have the hard work and grit that the people of uruguay do and says they were offered jobs and they turned them down. >> so marie harf if you're watching right now, and i'm sure you would be just know whoa you're saying what they need are jobs this is concrete evidence that these particular detainees probably formerly in the terror business, they don't have a work ethic and they don't want a job. actually maybe they want a job, they just don't want to work. >> they're not accepting it. they've had offers and turning them down. so so much for jobs for jihadis. up next, nfl star collin kaepernick attacking a fan on twitter saying you got eight followers, bro. your own family don't want to know what you do. now that last fan is getting the last laugh. >> did it hurt your feelings, clayton? >> it did. ♪ ♪
collin kaepernick in the news for the wrong reasons.
he blasted a fap who he thought was questioning his work ethic. he tweeted, 1,000 arm workout. ten minute straight on the jump rope. two-hour study session in february. that's what we call recovery. the fan replied. >> saying the nfl's ab workout won't help him find an open receiver. the twitter feud went back and forth until kaepernick said, you got eight followers, bro. you better get a life. now he's got like 2,000. >> he has a latte follower, online video going viral showing you how it make it on the cheap. >> making it for like 20 cents. >> it's frothy. >> see you on friday everybody. bill: we are watching the movements from washington. john kerry saying we can stop the violence by addressing the violence in the communities.
the critics question the focus and whether it's a discussion we need to be having at the moment. welcome to america's newsroom. martha: i'm martha maccallum. president obama is about to speak about at this summit. he's urging world leaders to embrace muslims and embrace extreme ideologies such as the notions that western countries view islam as the enemy.