at this. we go towards saturday night it's moved in a little bit. still a hurricane tomorrow night. and then it pulls back across the shore. that's monday morning. take a look. tuesday, here we go. wednesday, the exact same spot. potentially dealing with a hurricane still. that is five days of this kind of rain. that is why we are expecting to see some rainfall totals likely over 4 feet and that is going to cause massive problems in the region. >> tucker: what a shame. rick, thanks. we will talk to you again in a minute. steve harrigan is in corpus christi tonight right on the gulf of mexico. steve, what do you see? >> tucker, we have seen things get worse here each hour. this storm has strengthened dramatically. it's really caught a lot of people here by surprise. some of the people originally planning on riding it out decided at the last minute to make their evacuation. still the worst is yet to come in the next four to five hours. we have already heard from local police who have said that for the next few hours they will not be answering emergency calls, the winds are simply too high to go out. can you see it is pretty much a ghost land around here right now. we have guests well into hurricane stage. we are not seeing any branches nap off from trees. we are not seeing structural damage to the building as of yet. that is likely to change in the coming hours. keep in mind what a category 4 storm means. it means large trees will be uprooted or snapped. there will be major damage to well-built homes. so we could see a lot of homes without roofs or exterior walls over the next 24 hours. this was still, perhaps, 30 inches of rain ahead. tucker, i'm going to toss it back to you. >> tucker: steve harrigan i don't know how you keep talking in that be careful. my gosh. steve harrigan in texas. texas lieutenant governor dan patrick in houston. biggest population center in
the path of this storm. lieutenant governor, thanks for joining us tonight. are you ready for this? >> we are ready for it although i will tell you, tucker, what makes this storm unusual is that it grew so big so fast. i mean, over last weekend i was down in galveston and it was sunny and it was looking like a tropical storm over the yucatan that would go into mexico and then a tropical storm even as late as monday or early tuesday. and then it turned into it ferocious storm now a category 4. but our state is ready. our local counties and our cities are as ready as they can be. but the size of the storm, tucker, as rick just said, covering an area houston to corpus, for example is about 200 miles. we will still have strong winds here and we will still have by the time this ends, potentially wednesday or nurse thursday over 30 inches of rain in houston. >> tucker: what does that mean for houston? houston is enormous spread out city. 30 inches of rain, what happens? >> we have tremendous flooding as we are very low lieinlying city concrete. largest city in the country we will have a lot of flooding. we deal with that but, this will be unprecedented. we have neighborhoods that are never flooded before and levels we haven't seen. tucker, in this area of where the storm surge will be on the coast, there are over 225,000 homes. there is a company called core logic that has done an analysis that we could have close to $40 billion in damage. 232,000 hosms just along the coast. and then hundreds of thousands of homes in the area between the coast and san antonio and austin and houston. so you are looking at big try angle. areas as far away as waco, texas may have 40 mile-per-hour winds and 5 to 6 inches of rain. this is going to be unprecedented storm for the country and particularly texas. tucker, as you know, we are the center for refineries and oil and natural gas production. our refineries about 30 will be closed down. about half of the petroleum oil refineries will be closed. natural gas will be shut down. so that will have a dramatic impact on the country. simply because the storm is not just going to go through as rick said. it's going to stay with us maybe until thursday, if you can imagine. >> tucker: that will effect energy prices as you suspect. you said this storm came out of the middle of nowhere. most people were not thinking about this storm four days ago. have you been able to evacuate those areas? are they gone. >> no, they are not. unfortunately those who day. we are very concerned about them. we don't want to send out first responders. there will be a window where you can't go and help people. we did have an evacuation in several counties around the coast, mandatory. others were voluntary. even i believe exrirps was corpus christi was voluntary. i was in the grocery store myself yesterday picking up water. people were coming up to me and saying dan, what's the water for? they weren't aware of the
storm. this literally has come out of nowhere in about two days. so we are concerned about them. lock, we have -- our first responders, our police, our fire, our national guard, they are the best at water rescue, roof top rescue, tree top rescue. i mean, we have done this unfortunately too many times. but, at this scale we have not. but governor be a bought has been on top of this for the last several days. we will be ready, i understanding the president plans to come down here sometime early this week. we are working with fema already. we will take this on with a texas size effort for a texas size storm. and this is when. >> tucker: i believe it. >> when people come together, tucker, when a time when our country is divided many ways, this is when everybody comes together in texas and helps each other. that's what we'll do street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, county by county and all up and down texas from the coast of san antonio to austin and houston and beyond. >> tucker: knowing the state, i believe it.
thank you for joining us, i appreciate it? >> thank you, tucker. thank you for focusing on texas tonight. we thank you. >> tucker: of course. timothy march marshall is chasing that hurricane. he joins us on the phone. timothy marshall, can you hear me? >> yes, tucker, i can. >> tucker: where are you? >> i'm just north of rockport on route 35. the outer road. and is it is quite windy here. racing by like a time laps movie. we get white out conditions occasionally. power poll poles started of going down about an hour ago. a lot of power outages. people will to deal with that for days and maybe even weeks. we just are getting another squall now. the show is yet to come. we still have the eye wall offshore. so, another hour or two with that wind things are going to go really down hill. hill. >> tucker: so you are doing this obviously because this ask what. do you the lieutenant governor saying he hoped
people would be gone from that area. do you see residents of where you are? are they leaving? are they hunkering down? >> i saw a whole line of cars leaving this morning and i'm out here now and there is nobody out here. i'm just by myself. i think we may have lost contact. >> no. i'm here. we're just getting these really strong gusts that are occasionally birds are just going sideways. they can't fly. just occasionally we get these white out conditions here. we're going to lose cell service soon. >> tucker: i bet you are. look, if you can call us later, i would be grateful. call the producers anyway. i hope you are okay. >> oh, yeah. >> timothy marshall driving through the hurricane. good to talk to you tonight. thank you. fox news reporter henry is in surf side beach, texas
right now. there she is. she joins us. lindsey, what do you see? >> i can't hear anything. >> tucker: lindsey, can you hear me? the storm has affect our electronics like nothing else. lindsey henry, can you hear me? >> >> tucker: that connection seems to have gone down. we will be back to that stay with us as we track this hurricane as we will for the duration of the hour and the evening. hurricane harvey barreling towards texas. also ahead, nfl players are expressing their contempt for america by sitting out the national anthem. now the naacp is getting involved. we will talk to one of its leaders coming up. ♪ ♪ can i give it to you straight? that airline credit card you have... it could be better. it's time to shake things up. with the capital one venture card, you get double miles on
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>> tucker: this is a fox news alert. a lot going on tonight. president trump has granted presidential pardon to joe arpaio the former sheriff of maricopa county where phoenix is criminal content for disregard ago court order that called on him to stop detaining illegal immigrants. sheriff arpaio earned reputation for the tough conditions of the maricopa county jail and campaigns against illegal immigration. ararpaio was an early supporter of president trump. we have more on that story as details come in. we continue to follow tonight's other breaking news hurricane harvey now a hurricane 4 storm bearing down on the texas coast you saw steve harrigan almost swept away by it we have more live coverage coming up. right now though we are two weeks into the nfl preseason many players are already
sitting out the national anthem. their grievance america itself. this week protesters met outside the nfl headquarters in new york to express outrage over the league's systemic racism keeping collin kaepernick unsigned and out of a job. protesters had lots of fervour, watch. >> we are here because we believe collin kaepernick deserves a job. today it's time for the nfl to take a stand. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> no racist. >> police. >> when i say nfl, you say what the hell. >> nfl. >> what the hell. >> nfl? >> what the hell. >> it's political for the nfl not to give collin kaepernick a job. >> tucker: now the naacp wants in on the action and threatening a possible boycott of the league if they can't get a meeting with the nfl commissioner to discuss kaepernick's status. griggs with the naacp chapter involved in the boycott discussions and he joins us tonight. mr. greg, thanks for coming on.
>> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: so have you a league that is 70% african-american. 70% of the players are black as compared to about 13% of the population so clearly there is no racism in hiring. have you a guy who signed a contract in 2014 for like $126 million. collected 39 million of that. just on the basis of those facts alone, it's hard to see how collin kaepernick of 29 is a victim of racism. tell me how he is. >> well, considering that is he the 17th best quarterback in the league and a league theme ploys well over 90 quarterbacks there is no reason for him to not have a job at this point. yes, he did opt out of his contract and decided to take his talents to another team. but the fact that, again, only 16 other quarterbacks have a higher quarterback rating than collin kaepernick speaks a lot to what's going on with the nfl and the reason why we believe this is an issue of race. >> tucker: okay. now maybe the honors are making a poor decision in
not picking up collin kaepernick. i'm not qualified to assess that and i doubt you are either. what makes you suspect it's racial? again, the league is 70% black. if anything, it seems like it might be able to use a little diversity. i mean, that's not -- i mean, how is that racism? i'm honestly confused. >> well, the issue is with the ownership. and, again, there are no owners that are african-american. there is one owner that's a person of color. so you have 32 teams, 32 owners who we believe are acting in a way that goes against putting a good product on the field. if it's about ability and the ability to win games, and to produce on the field, collin kaepernick's stats speak for themselves. again, his quarterback rating shows he is the 17th best quarterback in the league. there is no reason he should not be able to get training camp invite to be able to show his talents on the field. >> tucker: okay. so he singsd for $126 million before. how much do you think he should sign for this time? >> i'm not sure. i'm not qualified to answer
that question. i'm qualified enough to know that his quarterback rating, again, rates him the 17th best quarterback in the league. he threw 16 touchdowns, four interceptions. he had 90 quarterback rating. there are quarterbacks who have a job like eli manning, quarterbacks like philip rivers who have far less quarterback rating last year alone that have jobs, have starting jobs. >> tucker: again, neither of success a coach or talent scout. let me ask you a question if the owners are racist, why are 70% of their employees black? i mean, wouldn't they not want to hire black people if they are racist and pay them hundreds of millions of dollars? >> this is about talent. and again his talent speaks for itself. if there is no other reason other than talent that's keeping him off the field. that's a question better asked to the owners. >> tucker: the question i want ask you. i got it he is a great player and all this stuff somehow they are racist. >> that's what talent and
that's what the nfl is about. it's about putting a good product on the field. >> tucker: right. so you represent the naacp. here's mile question. >> yes, i'm the vice president of naacp atlanta. >> tucker: over 70% of black children are born out of wedlock this year is that a bigger problem or smaller problem than collin kaepernick getting another 126-million-dollar contract? because i don't hear you saying anything about that. >> well, first off, if you google me, you will see the work i do in the african-american community here in atlanta. so a question like 70% of the african-american children being born out of wedlock. >> tucker: seems like that's. >> bait. >> tucker: it's not a bait it's a fact. >> what is the rate in atlanta? i live in atlanta, georgia. so you could tell me. >> tucker: i don't know. here you are sucking up to a guy who just signed 126-million-dollar contract. i think in a country of 320 million you could find someone who is actually the victim of racism or oppression. but this guy, who is 29 years old and has more money than god, he is the victim? i guess that's what i'm
saying. there are a lot of people who might need your help. how is kaepernick one of them? is he paying you? i assume you are getting money out of it? >> first off, i'm not getting any money. it's about not any paid protest. >> tucker: i don't believe that. >> this is not about a narrative you are going to spin. this is about talent. it's about the nfl. it's about the nfl needing to answer the question why the 17th best quarterback in the league is out of a job right now. if it's about talented, if it's about talent, you are needing to answer the talent question. >> tucker: my last question. do you feel that you are devaluing any of your moral authority to the extent your organization has any left, by taking your time and energy defending 29-year-old millionaires against fake accusations of racism? >> okay. again, we are not losing any of our moral authority to do anything. we are not going to get into name calling or debasing anyone. we are talking facts. and the facts are clear. he is the 17th best quarterback in the league.
>> tucker: i got it? >> no real reason why he is not on a team right now. >> tucker: all right. >> again we are sending a strong message to the nfl. mr. goddle has gotten a letter. if he decides not to meet with us, then we will take appropriate actions after that. i appreciate the opportunity being on your show. >> tucker: thanks, i appreciate it, too. >> thank you, tucker. have a great day. >> tucker: you, too. one of the worst hurricanes in decades set to make landfall over texas. a live report on that storm coming up next. because only your authorized mercedes-benz dealer has the skilled technicians to certify that your pre-owned vehicle is up to mercedes-benz standards. visit the certified pre-owned sales event, now through august 31st and learn more about our unlimited mileage warranty - and how your confidence can be as unlimited as your mileage. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.
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so it looks kind of ugly. it's going to pull back here and we probably have about a six day event where this storm is here. some models, tucker, now indicating this thing completely dissipates over texas. all of that moisture in the air falling right there in that spot in texas, which will cause catastrophic flooding. i don't see any way other than that for this to go down. which is bothersome. sometimes have you a way out of these storms. can go one way or the other and that helps. this isn't one of those storms. >> tucker: most powerful sinc1961. joining us from blessing, texas, how is it matt? >> tucker, this town is between houston and corpus christi. it's being described as ground zero as some of the strongest portion of the storms expected to hit here. the weather is changing by the minute. strong consistent wind and rain coming from all different directions. you can see this town behind me, looks like most towns in
this area almost entirely evacuated, ghost-town looking. this is matta gore are a county. mandatory evacuation issued at midnight last night and the last bus to leave this county left at 1:30 this afternoon. the message from emergency officials now is if you are here, you are unfortunately basically on your own. we spoke to the mayor in a small town just a short distance over. and he says that power is already starting to go out on these areas. unfortunately if you stuck around, you are potentially facing days without power. there was a lot of standing water in the streets already. this is starting to look like most of the areas in southeastern texas here. a lot of evacuations. these towns looking like ghost towns and just very few people wandering around here, tucker. >> tucker: matt, it looks like a movie set. it's amazing. be safe. thanks for that. >> thank you. >> tucker: the states of texas and louisiana already declared states of emergency. hundreds of national guard troops were activated in anticipation of landfall of this hurricane. how will they respond to it? lieu tenants general russell would know. you certainly remember him from 12 years ago when he commanded the joint task force at hurricane katrina in new orleans and the gulf coast and he joins us tonight. general, thanks a lot for coming on. give us a sense of how federal forces and state forces are going to be responding right now to this storm. >> well, the federal forces will only be used in the federal troops would only be used to fill requirements that the national guard, right now post katrina there has been a lot of emphasis in the national guard as always been the first for the governors to use. but, the national guard through neutral agreements with sister states will call in assets such as helicopters that they need. and special units that they need. but this is a national guard will have the lead. then for those things that they need, if they need a ship they will go to dod and ship will be sent from the navy. or if they need extra wide body aircraft to movie heavy equipment. this is the national guard working with the county and state officials to do search and rescue, which is the first phase of the response to hurricane, tucker. >> tucker: so how does -- is it mostly done by air, the search and rescue? >> well, use all assets both air and ground. the winds will be restrictive maybe for days from using helicopters. most of our helicopter crews can operate about 25, 30 mile-per-hour wind. as you just saw a minute ago, that storm is going to continue to turn. and the winds may exceed 25 or 35 miles per hour for days on end. which would put us to a more restrictive use to ground search and rescue teams in swift water boats having to go in to rescue people. this is going to make it even more dynamic because texas is big and this is a big long coast line.
and we have got a lot of isolated communities there. with surge water going up to 7 to 12 feet combined with a couple foot of rainwater, tucker. >> tucker: it's been a long time since we have had something like this. general, thanks a lot for that it's good to see you. >> have a good day. >> tucker: you too. we'll have more live coverage of hurricane harvey in just a moment. ♪ but, first, another fox news alert, north korea has launched what appears to be multiple ballistic missiles into the ocean off its east coast. the united states pacific command says the north koreas attempted to launch three short range ballistic missiles, you a three of them they say failed. the launch comes during joingted u.s. south korean military training on the peninsula. now to the southern poverty law center, a left wing attack group masquerading as a civil rights organization. they professionally slur mainstream conservatives and
christians calling them all kinds of names. so you won't be surprised to learn and by the way names that are taken up by the rest of the press and reported as fact. you won't be surprised to learn that a florida based christian missionary group named d. james kennedy ministries made their list of hate groups like so many being tarred this way they are fighting back. they have sued them for deaf testimony immigration. dr. wright is the president of the ministries and he joins us tonight. doctor, thanks a lot for coming on tonight. >> thanks for having me on, tucker. >> tucker: so they have lumped you in to a category as a hate group. what effect has this had on your ministry? >> >> first of all, it's not a lot of fun to jury name listed right alongside neo nazis and the ku klux klan and skin heads. the effect is hard to measure. it lowers the confidence that donors have to support nonprofit organizations like ours. >> tucker: that's right. >> when they label us a hate group. we have even had some of our long time donors call and say what's wrong with you guys? what happened to you? we have had to explain that it's really just a label. it's a label that they use to try to see you lens your viewpoint. it's nothing more than the old fashioned ad homonym attack that you learn in debated tactics that if you don't want to deal with ideas, you shut them up by calling them names and because of what you said a minute ago, it's worked simply because the media, the mainstream media in the main has not called them out on their own capricious and fallacious definition of what constitutes hate. >> tucker: without explaining it. pretty handy test for those at home. if you are trying to determine whether the media outlet you are reading and watch something legitimate. if they repeat propaganda by the southern poverty law center that is by definition propaganda. do you wake up and find out you are part of a hate group? >> that's exactly right. they never interviewed us. they've they never questioned whatever positions that we took that they considered to be hateful. just placed us on their list. and when all the violence took place in charlottesville in recent times, all of the sudden all the same news media were talking here decided it was time to publish the list of all the hate groups everywhere. and wouldn't you know it, we are number 1 in florida according to them. so, you know, tucker, enough is enough. and when people are spreading lies that are ultimately damaging, when you are being categorized as a hate group simply because of your subscription to the historic christian faith enough is enough. so we decided to file suit. this is clearly david and goliath. we are not confused about which one we are. they have $300 million in offshore bank accounts and we have somewhat less than that in ours. there is a rightness about this. there is unfairness about this. so that's why we filed suit. >> tucker: to lump you in with nazis and you feel sorry for their donors. i think a lot of their donors feel like they are fighting back against the nazis. who wouldn't want to do that. they don't understand how deeply corrupted and dishonest and loathe some these people are. good luck in your efforts to clear your name. >> thank you, tucker. thank you. >> tucker: the democratic party is trying to flip the republican strong hold of orange county, california. what's their message, they are alleging a russian conspiracy, of course. orange county congressman dana roar bacher is the subject of those charges. he joins us here next. breaking news, the most serious hurricane to hit the u.s.s. in more than a decade will soon make landfall in texas. it's the most powerful storm in texas in more than 50 years. a live report straight ahead.e things that are built to last. that's why we got a subaru. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. get 0% apr financing for 63 months on all new 2017 subaru legacy models. now through august 31st.
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thrillers, democrats are launched a website that features dana roar bacher's picture on a pin board connected to various russians including vladimir putin himself. also on the board are a few people ho wholly unrelated to russia like jack abraham notify. also recognize blackwater founder black prince who came on the show earlier this week. one person on the pin board miss something wikileaks founder julian assange who recently met with roar bacher in london where he has been for a number of years. congressman roar bacher joins us to sort this all out. >> thank you for spreading the truth. i just heard your interview with that religious leader from florida. thank god we have got people like you, tucker, spreading the word about the lies that they are confronted from the left wing in this country. >> tucker: especially the southern poverty law center which hides behind this shield of righteousness but is in fact utterly corrupt. >> across the board now liberal left that is the general tactic they are using across the board. i'm an example of that allegation is that you are somehow doing the bidding of vladimir putin. how is that in orange county this year? >> for one thing let me just noted that i have a background as you are aware, i was president reagan's speech writer. i have been a long history of fighting the soviet union and communism. and no, the fact is that i believe that we should try to have peace with russia. i'm certainly not in any way trying to compromise the truth or anything that would put our country second to what russia everything i do in terms of i am the chairman of the committee in congress that overseas our relations with russia. everything i do there and in my personal life and such is done for what's good for america i happen to think that working with the russians now to help defeat radical islam is a good idea. so they end up calling me names and trying to cast aspersions on my patriotism. >> tucker: so they are attacking you for meeting with julian assange about 10 days ago in london at the ecuadorian embassy where he lives. and some are saying wait a second didn't julian assange damage security by his activities. how do you respond to that? >> i think that julian assange's activities they balance out there. are some things that i wish he would not have been permitted to be made public. but it is also important that we don't have secret government here in the united states. and the vast majority of things that he has released have just showing that the government had overreached its legitimate authority and was exposing that not only here but throughout the world of course. so, yeah. i have got some trepidations but mostly i think he has done a great service to this country by exposing our government when it was going beyond the bounds of legitimacy. >> tucker: far beyond the bounds in some cases. you asked him directly did the information taken from the dnc web account did, that come from russia and he said no, it did not. do you take him at his word? >> he was -- first of all, he was adamant that the russians played no role. this is a man that released the information. he should know and quite frankly there is a reason for him to be lying about it and there is every reason to know that the liberal left in this country had every reason to lie about it because they were trying to destroy a result last election when they lost to donald trump. and so -- this whole thing with the russians supposedly, would are responsible for these emails. this is a fraud. it's a con job. in order to negate what happened in the last election. >> tucker: do you think assange knows where that information came from, where those emails came from? >> yes, i do j do you have any guesses? >> yes. i would guess he knows he was provided that information a n. a certain way and now it was delivered to him and that that system would have negated any potential of having a russian hacking of the system. it probably had to be done by an inside download rather than the hacking of the overall system. if that's the case, the russians could never have done it period. >> tucker: unless they were working at the dnc. some day we will find out what happened and it will be interesting. thanks for coming on. we appreciate it. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: san francisco liberals used to stand up for free speech. they were famous for it. no longer. that city's mayor teamed up with nancy pelosi to shut down a free speech rally there, which was supposed to be going on tomorrow organizer of that rally joins us here next. hurricane harvey already slamming the gulf coast of texas. a live report on that is straight ahead from the scene. stay tuned.
administration last week, gorka had been the subject of widespread criticism from the president's political opponents and interventionists throughout washington. ♪ this is a fox news alert. one of many on tonight's show, hurricane harvey is barreling toward the texas coast still. the category 4 storm expected to make landfall in the next few hours. we are keeping track historically strong storm. a live report is just moments away. but, first, california democrats, including nancy pelosi have successfully shut down a free speech rally in the city of san francisco. it was scheduled for tomorrow. their efforts to malign the organizers as racists, alt right drummed up enough controversy for the organizer to call the event off. they are going to hold a press conference in place of their rally. helped organize all of this and he joins us tonight. so, joey, just to be totally clear, what was the pointed of this rally, the one you just canceled? >> the whole point of the rally was just to promote freedom, love, peace, bringing people together, moderate republicans, moderate democrats. it was about letting go of the politics and coming together on things we can all agree on. >> tucker: that sounds terrifying. i can understand why they wanted to shut it down. how did nancy pelosi and officials in california describe the event? >> they called it a white supremacist rally. and they went out of their way to bring in as many extremists as they could and get everything they could to get antifa riled up. they say they distant against hate and stand against violence but they never said anything against antifa. they never made any statement saying antifa is violent and hateful. so the situation was out of control. we felt like they were trying to incite a riot. our supporters would have to march through antifa to get into the rally. we felt like there was major players behind all of this going on and it was like out of our control. >> tucker: do you have white supremacist believes? are you espousing that ideology? there is some reason, in other words, that pelosi and the rest would be describing you as a fringe figure? a hater? >> well, i think that, you know, speaking about love a lot, you know, speaking about freedom. speaking about unity. for some reason that brings a lot of enemies in the establishment in d.c. these politicians, they make their career based off of dividing the nation, dividing the voters so that we fight. the truth is if we came together -- if moderates came together, we would see through their lives, we would work together and get rid of these career politicians and people would eventually realize that nancy pelosi is no different than like john mccain. she is just another politician, a corrupt politician taking advantage of her constituents. >> tucker: but also you're charging someone who is in effect inspiring mobs to threaten people for saying things they don't like. >> yeah. absolutely. so she is basically trying to work up san francisco to get them angry and pissed off so they would be violent i guarantee you so there would be violent. that whole thing was a trap.
christie phillips original rally. we feel like she wanted there to be violence and then she would blame it on us and she would blame it on so-called trump supporters or conservatives even though a lot of us are moderate. we weren't going to give it to her. we are not going to give to the mayor. we are not going to give it to establishment figures trying to shut down freedom rallies all over the country. >> tucker: it's unbelievable. good luck at your press conference tomorrow, joey. thanks for coming on tonight. >> thank you. >> tucker: up next, we have a live report on the hurricane now a category 4. we are not overstating the severity of this storm. it is really historic. we will be back with details on it in just a minute.
>> the worst of the wins, something you need to point out. the national hurricane center, we know uncertainty has become famous over the last decade or so. we see the big yellow bob, that is the cone right now. you never want to look at the center of it but tomorrow night, still a category 1 hurricane. because we have 130-mile-an-hour winds, we are talking almost 24 hours for we have hurricane force winds on the east coast, south east coast. and it stalls out. we go toward sunday and monday. almost back towards the same spot. tuesday into wednesday and thursday. you get the idea it's with us for a very long time. that is why you're so concerned about the flooding. we could have a disaster on our hands. you factor in the wind. the storm, the satellite imagery is spectacular.
you don't want to see this but take a look. very incredible center of the storm right now. moving on shore. just to the east of aransas. in the rockport area. they are going to get pummeled in the next hour. this is the eye wall. padre island's seashore area. it will be pummeled, landscape will be changed by the time this is done. from storm surge, wind, and this very long, prolonged. lack of rain that will last 5-6 days. >> tucker: really tough. rick, we appreciate it. high rains in corpus christi. broadcasting, steve harrigan nearly blew into the gulf earlier. you missed it. watch. to speak of the real danger in the storm, it's not going to goy for the next 48 hours. if you can't. get to safe places.
the u.k. over brexit? julian joins me. we'll talk about donald trump and kim jong-un. plus swamp watch. but you may not know about the european union that will blow your mind. you will see clearly while the u.k. voted to walk away. later, you'll get a receipt as i take you on a tour of some of my favorite spots right here in london. let's get to it. joining me here's cohost of america's newsroom, sondra smith and douglas. the director of the data analytical company. sondra, i'm so happy you could join us. coming up on the first year anniversary of the show. you are there on our first show. i'm so thrilled that were in this incredible setting. you have been covering the wedding over the last few days and during the ceremony, what are your reflections? >> there is love in celebration
they have the power to change the world. they're going to get to work this week. >> steve: there so much and we'll talk about all the time. these things that divide us and people getting so angry about politics and everything. even the skeptics are not that convinced about the real family. there's something about the fact that everybody was so happy. >> i feel like in you know you can people either love the royal family or they do not. those that are obsessed with following the close from the pageantry of the family. sometimes it six applican extra. but the world could look on and appreciate them expressing their love in a public way. royal weddings have taken on a much more public nature.
william and harry are so immensely popular and respected for their military service. their love for their mothers that they lost at a young age. that they snuck out of the catholicastle the day before juo greet those who are gathered. they talk to kids and. >> steve: the theme of the show is positive populism. the wedding is a hundred% positive. an address was stunning. a lot 11 the wedding. but let's talk about some of the news we been covering. not a lot of love going on right now between europe and the u.s. over the iran deal.
just while the celebrations were being prepared here on friday, european leaders got together and decided to take a completely different view on the iran deal. to basically try to keep it a live. seems to me there's something going on with the e.u. and trump. whatever he is for they are against. >> we see a profound difference in outlook between the european elites in the united states. in europe, the ruling elite likes to think in terms of post nationalism. only if they were reasonable to them what they be reasonable back. there's a lot of self-interest. french and german companies with very fat contracts. >> steve: we covered that last week. you're right. there's a huge financial interest. >> so there's some naivety on the self-interest. combined let's taking them in a
dangerous place. your believe somehow if it allows the deal to continue it will contain a threat. we know actually the deal signed wasn't much of a deal at all. iran agreed to pause nuclear weapons but it did not stop or put an end to it. we can see that iran has some proxy wars and that's a denial. >> steve: that's at the president a point he made. what about this attempt will they get anywhere? >> i think they'll have to give up. no european company is going to run afoul of the united states. we seen some in this no-nonsense approach from america. i don't think any european company will want to part of that.
the leaders of france and germany we seem go to washington to deal with donald trump. but if you do business with iran you're going to get in trouble. >> that was an interesting relationship developing their. >> america got a glimpse of th that. when they first invented macron and the president was knocking something up his shoulder and said i want you to look perfect you are perfect. there is a friendly nature but we knew why he was there to urge the president to stay in the steel. and then michael says it's not perfect but it's what we have. that was his case as well. as what we have now we can work on something better for the future. so what happens to that relationship? with macron in the president?
so friendly but clearly the president is putting his foot down. >> it's great that they get along but europe is going to have to shift their position. the united states has an orthodox approach and i think europe will have to shift. >> steve: some people say that's how it will turn out the real outcome is that the chinese and russians are going to get in there. >> china is going to want to do business. i believe india does business with iran. the united states is looking at what's in the interest of the united states. ultimately you have to recognize have to pay attention to that. as the united states is putting your defense bill. >> that's a great point. >> going back to macron, she did
not come to this president for some to try sam. will be fascinating to see how the president continues to react and respond with the european nations. >> a lot of the elites in europe believe the rest the world is going to become like the european union, and the reality is, iran and china and the rest of the world is nothing like the european union. i think they will have to adapt. >> i don't think that's what people want. >> this is been a huge opportunity for the president to grow his relationship with the world leaders in a public way. we've all been watching what the future the deal will be.
i think marco made her views on this very clear a macron talking about the businesses in the threats that we are hearing coming from that. it will be something to watch. >> steve: there's many times and form policy in the west that trump is a great disruptor. perhaps it's making people challenge the assumptions about how to handle north korea, iran and many issues around the world. >> steve: that seems to be the way it's going. the notion of really upending the traditional way of doing things is key. >> maybe the experts in the state department got it wrong.
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>> steve: it feels like the history making some of between president trump a north korean leader is on for next month. that's after the threats from north korea to back out. over tests in the area and denuclearization. what to a stand to gain up the summit happens? joining me now we have former white house national security -- jillian turner. we have been here thinking about the wedding and getting excited but a lot happen on north korea. >> there are developments that were significant. the president finally nominated an ambassador to south korea whose the current commander of the -- the form policy community washington rejoice because they been calling for the administration to do this for months. that finally happened. i will take some pres pressure f
the president. if the summit goes for the president plans to raise the issue of cyber hacking with kim jong-un directly. that means we've known for years that north korea is a cyber menace to the u.s. and they poke around in our electric grids and hack e-mails. but the president committing to racists brings it up a level makes it a top-tier national security issue. the other major development is that the united states diverted some of our planes from the airspace that was with the north koreans. that was trying to pull them back in so the june 12 summit can go forward. >> people jumped on the spat over those exercises. that trump doesn't know it is doing is falling apart.
they were gleefully jumping. >> when that happens you think maybe his strategy is working. there is a piece and foxnews.com that explored why north korea is acting up, because the president has them in a corner. it could be assigned the president strategy is working. >> absolutely. it's his it's a scenario where the song has been sung many times before for like 20 years. it could go either way. i don't think anyone who tells me they know the outcome knows what they're talking about. the more you know the more you don't know. but for the back-and-forth gestures away every little move is so important is because were still technically at war with north korea. the korean war of the 1950s ended without a peace treaty in place.
we back south korea and it leaves us in a perpetual state of the default for us is that were enemies. >> the president really wants this to happen though. i think it's become his number one priority. i get the sense from covering the administration that it's become his number one. >> the president made really clear that he did not agree with the comparison of the national security advisor john bolton made around libya he said it will be like libya not to not end well. the president said no. he said the goal is for north korea to become a normal, rich country. that's a smart take on it. that would be something that would appeal to kim jong-un to
get back into the normal life of a prosperous country. >> when kim jong-un hear something like that he'll think i'll end up deposed and possibly doug, this is not what i signed up for. of course there will be problems. i was surprised to see hear them say that. >> then were left wondering if it does happen what gets accomplished. what is made public as we all anticipate the details of it. >> i think we would love to be a fly on the wall. i was thinking that for this particular meeting it's almost as if what the president says coming out of the meeting matters more than what actually happens in the meeting. >> when you have the bumps in the road toward the summit.
>> like the secrecy of the meeting before the confirmation hearing, it's amazing what led up to this. >> i just get this strong sense that the president's critics for which we know there are many, whatever they say they want this to fail. they don't want the president to have the incredible, unexpected triumph. >> i don't know. if this meeting happens i would think the president would be wildly praised for getting this done. even with bumps along the road at many times it looked like it was not working and it was getting really messy. >> a question i was asked was is the summit a success in and of it so. meaning if they leave the summit and they say it went well but
nothing happens on the tail end of it, and that happens a lot. does that still qualify as a success because it's the first time a president has met with the dictator. >> steve: the fact that they are sitting down talking is incredible. >> it's interesting because if we don't get total denuclearization out of the north koreans it leaves, not a staying, but maybe a check mark in kim jong-un's corner because the president has stated it is a goal. >> with all the uncertainty into world leaders who are effective of keeping their cards and their bag. they do not display or broadcast the next moves. we are left wondering a lot of things. you said when we got down here, just don't know. >> steve: that's what makes it so fascinating. we will keep talking about it.
it's very unexpected development that he could be on the brink of something historic in an area nobody has gotten into. >> of the president has put a lot of steak in his relationship with world leaders. and he puts a lot into it with his own powers of persuasion. that will be interesting to see in this case as well. when mike pompeo left the meeting with kim jong-un not really praising him but say he seems like a different guy. >> steve: i remember him saying
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>> steve: joining us now, a leading figure in the probe brexit campaign. a lot of the time i get asked, douglas, back in the u.s. they are very interested in brexit. they see a similarity between the reason brexit happened in the recent donald trump was elected. they asked me, how is brexit going? i come here and it's not going anywhere, what's going on? >> it's been two years since we voted to leave. seventeen and a half million people, the largest mandate in our history. two years on the political elite are trying to stop it. they're trying to say the results and the voters were misled and betrayed there something underhand about it. the second thing, they're trying
to use the laws and court cases and political appointees to try to change the brexit legislation so that we leave in name only. this is the most extraordinary and outrageous a possible decision. >> let's explore that. believe in name only, what is that mean? >> there several people in the elite, but also in the media that are trying to keep the u.k. in the e.u. by the back door. some of these institutions remain as a key institution. >> steve: let's get specific. i think it's important that people understand what's going on. >> there's a few institutions in the e.u. that the single market -- >> steve: that seems to be what people are talking about.
>> it would essentially be remaining in the e.u. some politicians think people are too stupid to know the difference. they can keep us tied to the institutions and say here's your brexit which is not acceptable. >> some say you can leave the european union but not have control over your regime. some are saying were not to set an end date until we have our final bill from but they can draw this out for years and years. >> the house of lords put down 15 changes. imagine if instead of having unelected setting congress imagine you have an assembly that existed entirely of hillary clinton appointees. imagine if they're all ivy league east coast preppies.
and they are trying to deliberately stop brexit. >> let's explain how that was possible. where is tresa mahon this? her job was to deliver brexit. she said brexit means brexit method i'm going to deliver. what's her role? >> there several leading politicians that want them to leave there also several advisors around in the cabinet that want to keep the u.k. in the e.u. i think she's getting conflicting advice in her own cabinet. >> there people want to stay in the e.u. >> in some kind of customs union. >> so they're pretending that they're leaving but it means you don't actually have control of the key areas of policy.
>> the key government of driving this process don't see brexit at this opportunity. it's an incredible opportunity for britain to step proudly into the world and have a free trade deal with united states and other countries. instead of seeing it in a positive terms many see it as next her size and damage. and there being defensive and minimalist about it. they're negotiating with one of the most difficult bureaucratic obstructionism ever known. and unless you go about this with guts and determination and vision as to what could change, nothing changes. >> i think our audience will recognizes from was going on in america with donald trump. you have the bureaucracy against him, the republican party against him, many of the courts,
but when you think will happen? is the vote that was so clear going to be honored or not. >> in the end i think it will be. there's millions of people in the u.k. and they thought this vote would mean something. it is about liberty in bringing power back to the people. there be people coming to the streets protesting if this doesn't happen. theresa may will probably find a very weak deal with the e.u. but should get a leader that comes in and takes that control. in their standing in the way. >> were out of time on this. were going to be talking about your book and will get back into this business. thank you both very much. so why would the u.k. ever want to leave in the first place?
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in 1999, the entire executive leadership of the e.u., 20 officials, resigned over cronyism and corruption. it has only gotten worse since then. the european union is tonight swamp watch. >> in 2014 the e.u. published a report highlighting a breathtaking level of corruption throughout the member state. estimating the corruption cost the economy 120 billion euros every year. they found over 15% of respondents had been asked work, bribed or expected to pay someone in the past 12 months. the e.u. originally planned to include its own institutions in the corruption report until they get the finding, at which point they deleted the chapter on their own corruption. official said it would be difficult to provide an objective evaluation because there were no independent external reviews.
how about commissioning one? they can't wait to investigate everyone else, they can afford it. the campaign found shocking expenses by the european officials. in a single year they spent a quarter million on quartering, 23000 on chauffeurs, and over 1000 chocolate. they're trying to cover up their spending was shady accounting. they spent 54000 euros at hotels and labeled it commission policy and legal advice. when they spent over 3000 euros they describe it as agriculture and rural development. and when the science officials spent 22000 euros at a hotel they called it direct research. direct fraud more like. the whistleblower found 130 million pounds discrepancy between two sets of hooks in
2001. she tried to raise the alarm with the bookkeeping. she was fired. that's one of many corruption scandals that have plagued the e.u. in recent years. in 2012, john valley resigned in and influence peddling accusation over politicization over an 18 million-dollar kickback from the tobacco industry while overseeing tobacco -. goldman sachs investigated and are now looking into a meeting with european commissioner vice president in late 2017 to discuss trade and defense issues. a meeting they said was personal and private. rights.
here's another example, in marcd in the third step down after a british newspaper reported they agree to propose legislation in return for bribes. it would not be a proper swamp without a vast lobbying industry. they published a report but it was so damaged that they tried to delete it from the internet. according to the report, in 2015 there over 8000 registered lobbyist associated with the european union. the lobbying transparency was actually they only register if they feel like it. so the estimate of 8000 lobbyist is likely underestimated. the corporate europe observatory says there's between 15 and 30,000 lobbyist. a 2015 report found you officials recorded over 4000 meetings with lobbyist and six
months. including google, general electric and others. the lobby fact website says top ten companies spent a combined total of 39 million euros every year. that's just reported on a voluntary basis. the revolving door spinning around nicely. an organization found 50%, half of all those working in the biggest lobbying firms previously worked in one of the e.u. institutions. from 2009 - 2010, six out of 13 departing commissioners move from public office into corporate or lobbying jobs. no wonder they tried to delete this after is published. that's what they mean by the right to be forgotten data loss. european union has a hard time reconciling the interests of the united states. guess what they came up with two promote corporation and common
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no wonder republicans say marshall tuck will change that. in california, 3 million kids can't read at grade level. tuck turned around struggling schools, raising graduation rates over 60%. marshall tuck for state superintendent. marshall tuck. >> steve: welcome back. working to discuss tonight swamp watch in the e.u. i think this is all corruption you have to look at the accountability. most people don't know where the money is going. here were seen the very same
thing. >> is captured by the big business and so on. >> a lot of what we see is big business going to brussels lobbing the rulemaking and getting things made on diesel recognition and doing it because they want to make the world a better place. what you're really doing is making sure they get commercial advantage using the regulatory system in the beltway to read the rules for their advantage. let of ordinary businesses and people feel like they're excluded from the process. it's not just morally corrupt and bad for the environment, i think it's making the economy less competitive. one of the reason why is there's fewer jobs in the center of the world economy it's now the back. all of these regulations are making them a bad place to do business.
>> a lot of the arguments he made in your book, loved your book. rebel, how to overthrow the oligarchy. so tell us the main argument. >> i think populism is a good thing. the problem is were told by the elite that populism is problem. the way the elite rigged the economy is what is the underlying problem. there's a number of parliament that after 12 years the political processes rigged by career politicians. i felt bad every month getting a paycheck from the taxpayer. i felt bad about as a libertarian and wrong as a taxpayer. we have all these things that they think you're entitled to have these things at the public
expense. no wonder they are in favor of mark government high taxes and telling us what today. >> steve: this aligns neatly with the growth and big government. how do you see it? >> we had to find how tax money is wasted. infrastructure projects very much wasted. it's unfair to taxpayers kids ordinary people who work hard just want to pay their taxes and -- >> even when the state does things that appear to be good what they're doing and i discovered this is there subsidizing the payroll a big corporation by subsidizing those who pay low wages.
>> in the united states and in europe we see welfare programs where governments take tax mon money. when i was a new member i thought it was a good thing and i wanted to live in a world where people are not struggling to pay their bills every week. what's going on is governments are encouraging big employees to pay their staff low wages and hoping the taxpayer will top the amount subsidizing low wages. i think that's the root cause of problems we have. the collaboration between big government and big corporation to keep wages low and top them out. >> steve: you all have to buy his book. it's really important. next a go on a tour of some of my favorite spots in london. please join us after the break.
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. steve: welcome back to "the next revolution" from windsor, england. i lived here in london for several years, and i had the chance over the last few days to visit some of my favorites. i visited ainsley earhart. >> you had a great day yesterday going on all the famous sites. when you live in london, it's made up of a bunch of different neighborhoods. they're so special. that place is kenwood, do you remember that from notting hill, the movie? >> i do, that's right. julia roberts was down here. >> this is it? >> this is it. i used to come here all the time, close to where we used to live. it's owned and run by english heritage, anyone can come free, it has rembrandts and it's in
the beautiful location. every morning when i lived here, i used to live down there, i'd go for a run, and it was so special to be able to do that. especially when you think about the view you get from here. i know you went on the london eye, nice view of london, but nothing like that view. >> wow! >> that is what you call a view. this is the only place you can basically see the entire city laid out. >> beautiful. steve: so amazing. >> i could run. right? steve: we'll be talking of running, if you are thirsty. >> let's go get a drink. steve: i think that's a good idea. i've always loved where we are, it's right at the heart of north london. all the time i lived in london, this is where i lived, my friends were around here and it was fantastic, and this is the pub we're going to go to, it is so special, and i would love walking up here and you see it. >> this is so great, yes!
>> this is your life? steve: yes, this is where i used to hang out. >> we are in your favorite pub why. is that? steve: so many amazing memories. 20 or so years i lived in london. loads of different times we come here in the evening or the weekend. >> one special story that comes to mind? steve: one of the more recent was just before i moved to america, and i remember just being here and i remember rachel, my wife, calling. she told me our second son, in fact, was a boy. we didn't know the sex of our child and i got the news. it's a boy. so it's a very special memory. but there's so many from this place. >> you came in here and got another pint. steve: exactly. speaking of which, i think it's time we had a drink. >> okay. when we walked in here, steve, you were giving me advice about the beer. steve: anyone coming to london and wants to order a pint of this delicious beer, you cannot say a pint of london pride, you
have to order a pint of pride. >> a pint of pride. steve: pretty spot on. >> teach us how to pour. >> 45 degrees just under the nozzle. you don't want it spilling out. you do one good firm pour. >> there we go. a little bit more. >> that's pretty good. >> here we go! >> cheers to pride. >> cheers to pride! >> that is all tonight from windsor. my thanks to our panel, chloe wesley and gillian turner. you can learn more about "the next revolution" by following us at -- next week turning point usa candace owens will be one of our guests, back in los angeles. i'm steve hilton. see you next sunday when "the next revolution" will being televised.
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opinion, it's ridiculous the corruption and dishonesty with the witch hunt, the president has watched this process play out but he also wants to see it come to an end as he stated many times. we look forward to that happening. >> dana: i understand why she would want to answer it that way, last week we found out that mueller's team is looking at the president's tweets to see if there was a pattern of obstruction. this is just his opinion, just fighting back, it's not obstruction. >> amazing when you have the white house under siege like this one, much as with the nixon white house or the clinton white house, the way in which the team there comes to reflect the attitude, the language, the perspective of the boss. and you can hear it there, and the loaded words and the hard language. this is a white house under siege and this is an administration that is ready to fight, fight, fight. the problem for trump is the same as it is with, you know, all of that stuff about they're
going to impeach rod rosenstein and that business. it comes down to this, trump can act 450eshgs has constitutionally appropriate -- he can act. he has constitutionally appropriate remedies that he can do. he could order the documents to be released. he could discharge rod rosenstein. he would intervene yet he doesn't. this is the predicament. if he acts then he creates a constitutional crisis and loses republicans in the senate who say you've gone too far. but he wants to talk about it and rally his fwas. >> dana: they also made a decision, the president decided he is not going to throw paul manafort under the bus. paul manafort isn't being charged here or tried on charges of collusion or anything to do with the campaign. this is separate and apart. what he's charged with, are the very things that president trump campaigned on, saying he would drain the swamp from.
he can't let paul manafort twist in the wind y worry about him? this is outside and apart from the campaign, why? >> we don't know what donald trump knows that paul manafort knows. this is the wilderness of mirrors situation. what you see may not be so. and this also goes for his former fixer, cohen, and bunch of other people in his orbit. we don't know what they know or what he thinks they know. for manafort this a logical gambit. he's richer than -- he made $60 million off the oligarchs. >> dana: don't say that, you will be struck from the courtroom. >> he's old and he's rich. for him it makes sense. take it to trial, see it through. as they get through the trial and i've covered enough of these to know. if it gets to the trial and they're getting close to the end you can see plea deals in cases like this right up to the last minute.
understandably playing out his hand. >> dana: let me switch gears and talk about the mid terms. president obama announcing today his first wave of endorsements for house candidates, some i guess senate. i noted two things that he didn't include on his list, two types of people, one was the new instantly famous alexandria owe casio-cortez who beat joe crawley in the primary. oept bam a does not have her on his list. >> why would he, she doesn't need help. she won with, what, about the same number of votes as nothing. nd if she's in a safe seat she doesn't need help. she has enough visibility. >> dana: can i ask you, is it better for her not to be endorsed by president obama? she's running an anti-establishment campaign. i'm not sure, do the democrats consider the clintons and the obamas establishment or just the
clintons? >> if she can find any way to lose in this district it would be a miracle greater than the senate reds winning the world series. it's not going to happen. the issue here is, is it good for democrats for obama to be doing this. i think no. i think this is hub ris, he has to stand back and let the chaos reign in the party. he can't show up and say i'm out but here are the people you should do. >> dana: do you feel the same way about him not endorsing any current red state democrats up for re-election or are they glad to the to have the endorsement? >> you think joe manchin wants barack obama to say that's my guy? no, does not help you. >> dana: he said this is his first wave of endorsements, do you think he will have an impact on any of the races? >> he will have an impact in some places. but again the larger impact is a negative one for his party.
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>> dana: president trump is heading to central ohio to campaign in a final special election before the mid terms. republican troy balderson is running against daniel o'connor, a house seat that's been in republican hands since 1980. but the crystal ball rates the contest a tossup. a new monmouth poll, he leads o'connor only 1%. collin reeves joining me now, columnist for the boston herald. and dave brown, former senior advisor and community counsel to senator patty murray and democratic strategist. experienced folks to talk about ohio 12. collin. trump going to the race must mean that president trumps things that balderson has a good chance of winning or he wouldn't go. but him going could make all the difference in the turnout. >> absolutely. special elections usually come down to turnout. it's not always able to
extrapolate from the results what does happen in future elections. but i think one thing that the republicans have made clear in this race is the playbook they use against the democrat in the race is one they can use all across the country. and that is make every race a referendum on nancy pelosi. the democrats want to make every race a referendum on fond trump but that doesn't work in ohio, west virginia other places where he's very, very strong. that's where the mid terms seem to be going in terms of the battle lines. remains to be seen who will win. nancy poe less joy is a liability no matter where you go, nancy pe lows si. >> dana: the democrats must have done something right with this candidate, your thoughts? >> you're seeing a major enthusiasm gap in this race as well as races across the country. one reason why democrats over the past year, in special elections, have been consistently outperforming even in states that were historically red or went for president trump
in 2016. to win the house democrats need a net 23 seats. republicans are defending 25 seats that hillary clinton won last cycle n ohio and other suburban districts, the more the president wants to campaign in the suburbs we welcome that. if you look -- >> dana: why? >> if you look at the you be in of suburban women who strongly disapprove of the job that the president is doing, nearly 6 in 10. and even among republicans who support the president, there's a major, major gap between men who strongly support his performance and women. it's overwhelming. democrats are enjoying a 30-point lead with the suburban women, that's going to translate into gains in november. >> dana: collin, the other thing i learned is that the democrat candidate not only is there enthusiasm on his side, but to the extent there are independent enlts left, and apparently there are, they're leaning toward the democrats. that's typical in this type of a mid-term election.
can the president's visit change any of their minds? >> you have to believe if he's going there, he would look at a poll and assume he's going to be helpful and not -- an asset not anything that's going to drag down the republicans. look, these mid terms in the middle of august, people have a lot of other better things to be doing than paying attention to politics. and what's happening there. i think you just need to pay attention to what happens on turnout and who shows up. >> dana: let me ask you about a poll, i'll go to texas, this was a little bit of a surprise, this morning the texas iceum group poll showing that ted cruz is just two points ahead of o'roarke, cruz the incumbent. o'roarke on his heels. i would heat the quinnipiac poll came out saying that ted cruz is up 49-43. but that race, dave, is probably closer than ted cruz would like. >> i think it's very fair to say it's closer.
i thought it was striking, i think last week, when an incumbent sitting senator ted cruz challenges beto o'roarke to five debates. that's crazy, an incumbent wants to debate, that speaks to his sense of waeshgness at this position. beto o'roarke is running an interesting and compelling campaign, the small dollar donations he's generated and keeping up financially with senator cruz and running on kitchen table issues, whether it's insuring affordable healthcare, whether it's ensuring that they are able to have a winning wage. >> dana: he's been doing it in a different way, facebook live. collin, the last word, the democrats have had this dream of flipping texas blue. are their dreams to be dashed again this year? >> yes. texas isle into's gold for the democrats. cycle after -- texas is fool's gold. they want to make it competitive, they never do, the republican usually wins, i'm
confident that will happen as well in the state of texas. >> dana: we'll make you buy is a drink if it's not true. thank you. >> thank you. >> dana: one group making a major push for a member of the national guard running for congress, i'll speak to lt. colonel ashleigh niklos about her primary fight tomorrow night. gas, bloating, constipation, and diarrhea
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>> xwechb that the health inspengtors have given it the all clear, i'm not worried right now. no, if i get sick, we'll see. but as of now not worried at all. >> dana: the restaurant was closed monday after the illnesses first surfaced. officials say they inspected the location and found no reason for the outbreak and the store reopened yesterday afternoon. >> ashley nickloes, serving eight deployments since 9/11, trains military and civilian groups on disaster response. her most important job, devoted mom. now, nickloes is on a new mission, challenge the career politicians, rebuild our military, grow our economy. >> dana: that was an ad recently released in support of lt. colonel ashley nickloes. the republican is part of a crowded field running in a primary tomorrow hoping to win the open seat in the second district. i'm joined now by lt. colonel
ashley nickloes. thanks for being with us today. you're running for seat held in the duncan family for many, many decades. >> yes, ma'am, 54 years. >> dana: why did you decide to run? you brought -- were you brought to my attention by this group called "with honor." david ignatius is a columnist for the "washington post," wrote this today, the coalesce evens of young veterans of iraq and having a may be the most positive trend on the political horizon. they have been through the nightmare of combat, they know what it means to serve the country beyond flag waving and slogan earring. did they re chute you to run for this seat? how did they find you? >> no, ma'am, i just got tired of how broken washington is. my view from 18,000 feet over syria, iraq, and afghanistan is different than the view with a. after multiple deployments,
after the pad few decades, i thought it was time to bring a new voice and voils of experience to congress. >> dana: what do you think are your main issues you're concerned about? . national security of course is my top priority, closest to my heart. healthcare is also very close to my heart, my husband is a trauma surgeon and dedicated his life to healthcare in addition to serve 2g 2 years in the military -- serve 2g 2 years in the military. and term limits. i believe it's time to bring congress and the representatives back to the voice of the people. term limits would bring it back to what our founding fathers' original intent was. kp there are many more women running for congress than in years past, the democrats doing better than republicans. where democrats are running in a primary with at least one woman and a man and no incumbent, 66% of democrats have won, they were women. 38% of republicans have won. tomorrow, in a crowded primary, trying to win it tomorrow. i know that you don't go about
talking about how you're a woman and that's why you should vote for me. what do you think about the republican party trying to promote women in this year? >> it's imperative that the republican party show what the actual republican party is. we're looking at over 435 seats in the house of representatives and only 11 of them being held by women after this election campaign. so we want to make sure that republicans reflect what we really are in this nation. as you said, i have a crowded primary, there's seven of us. i am the only female. but i've run on my experience and the power of our message. i believe i'm the most experienced to take this message to congress. >> dana: let me ask you about the on issue of a lot of people in tennessee, the effect of the trade policy that president trump is pursuing, while he tries to work out the trade deals there are consequences for tennessee, with canada, for example, being the top sip yent,
soy beans, and whiskey. i'm curious what you say to your constituents when you come to washington who you would do to stick up for them on this issue? >> well, i applaud president trump's ability to try and bring a level playing field to our trade policy. we have over 850,000 jobs that are dependent on the trade policy here in tennessee. over 1.4 billion in money that we bring in to our state because of trade. i hope that president trump makes it an expedite, the negotiations, because the longer we draw it out the harder it will be on my constituents in tennessee. if ever there was a time to negotiate a better trade stance for us internationally, then right now is, they are into the booming economy. >> dana: lt. kol them ashley nickloes, thanks for being here today.
>> thank you so much, it was a privilege. >> dana: pension problems to the tune of trillions of dollars corks your retirement fund face insolvency? new tariff talk, what the president is tying when it comes to billions of dollars worth of chinese goods. >> president trump: everyone that says hello mr. president, congratulations on what you've done for the economy. it's the talk of the world. china paying hundreds of billions of dollars a year with nobody there to protect your money. but you're there now.
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>> dana: a new place to raise the stakes with china, fox news learns president trump floated the idea of boosting property moesed tariffs from 10% to 25% on billions of dollars worth of chinese goods. here's the fox business network live with this story. >> tensions are is d.ca lating, the proposed move from 10% to 25% is more than double obviously. some see it as a tactic aimed at the chinese government. beijing has reacted with anger, threatening retaliation. we've seen 25% tariffs on $34 billion, largely industrial goods that. 's imposed on china amount the u.s. on schedule to heavy similar tariffs of an additional
$16 billion, either this week or next week. as for this next proposed level, the white house probably going to make a decision towards the end of august. those in favor of the tactics say they're justified because of the chinese yuan has fallen about 6% against the dollar since the end of may, a clear advantage of chinese exports when they sell their goods overseas. trade tensions clearly between the u.s. and china escalating but they are calming down between the u.s. and europe. president meeting with the e.c. president last week, the e. you have freeing to import more u.s. soy beans, very important big $20 billion export crop for us. and more liquified natural gas. the u.s. stood down on imposing tariffs on imported european cars. >> dana: and american consumers are paying more for certain items. which ones stand out? >> they certainly are. basically, hearing from a lot of ceos that metals, that cost
more, it costs them more for certain products, packaging, the ceo of coca-cola saying the company is taking an unusual step of raising soda prices midyear, referenced the rising costs. he said freight rates and prices for plastic and aluminum went into his decision. executives at sam adams brewery and boston beer company saying prices would go up 2% in the second half of the year. r.v. manufacturer winnebago won't say how much it raised prices, but the company has admitted to modifying r.v. floor plans to trim costs. separate from tariffs, americans are also paying more this summer to fly due to rising fuel costs. you have american airlines for example spending more on fuel, jet fuel prices up around 50%, that company said it's hurting its bottom line. delta's ceo saying ticket sales are up about 4% from last year. american consumers taking a few hits from all sides.
kp. >> dana: all right, thank you. good news on the economic front for the american worker with the employment cost index showing that pay and benefits are climbing at the fastest pace in a decade. joining me is arry fliescher, former secretary under george w. bush and fox news contributor. great news for the president, unemployment at 4.0% and news about increase in pay. i want to spring this on you, i just got this in, president trump doing an interview with rush limbaugh, he called in, rush limbaugh celebrating 30 years on air, pretty remarkable. trump saying this about farmers and trade. our farmers were we're going to open up markets for them but they're great patriots. i watch them all the time, saying we trust our president. you know they make take a short-term hit. you look at farm and farming has been going down for 15 years. sow beenls five years before the election cut in half, the price was cut in half, i wasn't there.
he made comments on other things, but relevant on the economy, everything seems to be going well. one question about trade. >> that's right, donald trump is trying to do something long term when it comes the tariffs. it's high, high risk and high, high reward. on the fundamentals of the economy and the most important fundamental, are you making more money. working class, blue collar americans, first the time in ten years they can report a significant raise in pay. that's huge. and that has a tendency, historically, to change how elections come out. >> dana: in terms of, we do these stories about mid terms all the time. republicans out there running are not running on the economy. they're talking about other things like immigration, things that will get the base out. i understand it's a mid-term election. but is the good feelings about the economy, are they baked into people's thinking? >> i don't think so, not yet. unemployment is low and he gets credit for that, that's baked into the economy. but the missing picture, one of the big reasons why donald trump
got elected, wages were stuck for 10 years. blue collar americans weren't getting a pay raise, but the wealthy were. that was pal possible, the weakness of the obama years. now, it's going up. that's a tremendous development. the parallel to the '90s when bill clinton was under investigation by ken starr and the economy boomed. people didn't really care about the investigation. if that's the case here, it benefits donald trump and republicans. >> dana: any concern for that deirdre was reporting because of the trade issues, prices are going up, even coke a cola saying they'll to have raise their prices a little bit. middle class wages, low income going up, but do they get eaten up by cost increases? >> everything feels different these days, with donald trump. inflation unless it's rampant doesn't hurt you as much as if your wages are not going up f your wages are going up you feel better. you don't foo notice that your
coke costs five cents more or airline ticket costs 5% more. you're making more money week-to-week. >> dana: and maybe your anxiety is alleviated and that makes you feel better about things. i want to ask about this, the economy is so good, should we be trying to make hay while the sun shines, in terms of the structural problems? there's a problem with pensions, people forget about pensions, we don't talk about them as much any more. a lot of states are underfunded with their pensions and there are laws that kick in that says taxpayers don't have to bail them out. >> aren't these great issues, the issues republicans wrangled with for decades and we haven't talked about them for years. this is the time with a booming economy to go after tariffs as trump is doing, when the economy is strong we can take the risk. secondly, deal with long-term pension issues and the underfunding of them. this is the time to get your books in order when the economy is well. when the economy is doing poorly, the resources aren't there to do it. this is better than before. >> dana: and impact on the
budgeting for congress, they're looking at that as entitlement spending continues to grow, the stuff that you can't mess with, the amount of money that you have to put around to other things is basically smaller and smaller. >> exactly right, the government gets squeezed. one of the things about the trump years, he doesn't want to do anything about social security and medicare going bankrupt. we have to one day. i guess it won't be on donald trump's watch. >> dana: maybe a second term. >> he says he's going to do it. >> dana: greg gudfelled is coming up, were you at an event last night. >> i was at the mets national game in washington, dwk my son who got to watch his favorite player, trey turner, what a pounding. 26 runs for the nationals. what a game. >> dana: fun park, too. >> it is. >> dana: best part of washington sometimes. >> it is. they don't tax when you you walk in. >> dana: keep an eye on. thatari fliescher, thank you. vice president pence is in hawaii to receive the remains of
american service members who died during the korean war. a solemn ceremony taking place at pearl harbor. stan springer is live in honolulu. >> this is an emotional day for anyone who served in the military. but it will be especially powerful for the more than 7,600 families who lost servicemen in the korean war whose remains have never been identified, never brought back to the united states 65 years after the fighting ended. vice president mike pence is in hawaii now, to take part in today's honorable carry ceremony. it means a lot to him personally, his father fought in korea and received the bronze star. he will be accompanied by two people whose fathers were killed in the war and their remains still missing. also attending will be 10 local korean war veterans who will be part of the honor guard. dozens of vets have been meeting every week on tuesdays for the last 20 years. the group's president is herb shriner whose brother was killed in korea.
>> you know how hard it is to hear that they're missing in action and you don't know where they're at, what's happening to them, are they captured, are they suffering? families think about that. >> 55 boxes of remains were turned over by north korea late last week and flown to a u.s. base in south korea draped in the united nations flag. when they arrive shortly at joint base pearl parlor hick couple, they will be covered by u.s. flags. then the painstaking work begins to identify the remains. it will be done by the defense p.o.w. m.i.a. accounting administration, one of the premiere anthropologist groups in the world. last year it made 201 identifications of our war dead giving families a chance at some closure. but it is not a quick process. >> one of the few countries that spends this type of effort and
time and money to bring closure to our military families. each and every one of those families has been made a promise by the u.s. military to come home. we are the end of that promise. >> the relatively easy identifications will take at least a month, dna will be part of that process. some of these identifications could take many years, if ever. yet getting done. those 55 boxes could contain hundreds of individual service members. >> dana: dan, thank you. a new ruling today by a jum on something very up -- judge on something very upsetting regarding the children separated from their parents at the border. what one major league pitcher did to get himself out during a game that his team won by 21 runs. oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (vo) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven
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ninth inning. the they said he grew frustrated when the umpire implored him to work quickly and trip gibson told him to slow down or get called for a balk. >> the whole story, they were looking for something to get rid of this guy. they released him because he threw his mitt down. there's a backstory. he's probably not a popular player. what would you call him, dane? what would be the word? >> dana: a diva? [laughing] no, i would be respectful of -- >> maybe a jerk. he might be a jerk. i think, like, this is the equivalent of a yard sale. they put him out, there so somebody could pick him up. a teachable moment for him, he hah to prove to the people who pick him up that he isn't what you might call, um -- >> dana: not like he took an ally gator into a convenience store and chased people around.
>> no, that would be terrible. >> dana: i would call them something then. [laughing] okay, everybody. >> what would you call that, dane? >> dana: i might call you that. are you going to explain this on "the five" tonight? >> you know what it is, something that outrageous and immoral happens on family television, it's incumbent on the host of the show to talk about it. and i think we need to air our grievances. a lot of people at the table, need to have a discussion. >> dana: family counseling? >> it needs to be a toechable moment. >> dana: show counseling. because of what happened to me on the five -- no, what i did on "the phi" last night, let me take full responsibility, i'm sorry, we'll lead "the five" with it. but we've been talking about twitter outbursts. what i did last night was sort
of like if you did it on twitter, the mob might come after you, right? or if you did it, like sean kelley, he's throwing his mitt down, on twitter that would be seen as, you know, ridiculous. but you might get fired for it, too. >> i think it's a testament to the amount of leisure time that we have that we can examiner sides those kind of -- exercise, i don't know, crucifixions where we go after somebody and have the time to do it. i call it, sort of like a ritual sacrifice almost every week, we find somebody and cast them out. and then we find somebody else. it's such a strange thing. it's almost like we need to create a ritual to replace that. you know what i mean? something that people can do. >> to take their minds off? >> right. like mass is like that, you go mass and take part in a ritual that keep from you doing actual sacrifices and actual crucifixions. there almost needs to be a mass
for social media that teaches people this will replace that, so stop hurting people. >> dana: i love this mass for social media. you had a great time. >> i did special report with brett in d.c., he's a jolly foally and molly and jonah and myra. never try to maybe everybody. >> dana: you had a good time. >> it was great and i did a couple of talk shows, too. at fox it's unusual to see somebody plugging a book. >> dana: doesn't happen very off. >> right, so people are shocked and surprised to see me here plugging a book that's a collection of all of my monologues, which are bursts of thoughts that you probably would have had. >> dana: it's brilliant. >> i won't go that far, i don't blow my own horn, i'm not like you. [laughing] but -- dvp i know this, i have been warned that your monologue today on "the five" is must-see television. my mom, she's going to be there and watching. >> she better be.
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stirewalt moved this race from tossup to leading democrat. there are a few things going on. first of all, two of the three leading republican candidates, they're trump-based far right conservatives, including maricopa former sheriff joe arpaio. he said he will not ask for an endorsement, that's up to mr. trump. he accuses the other hard liner of promising him a lot offy job if he would drop out. >> they've been after trying to get me out of the race from the beginning and i don't like them bribing for money to get me to drop out of the race. >> now, ward the former state senator who unsuccessfully challenged john mccain in 207 16 brushes off the words with this. >> joe has been a folk hero, somebody who has been important in arizona. and i hate's to see the people he's surrounding himself with on his campaign really ruining the
legacy that he has left. >> the frontrunner is two-term congresswoman and former fighter pilot martha mcfamily, a moderate. but they say she's warmed to the president of late, even though she's critical of him in the past. >> i welcome an endorsement from the president. i don't expect him to win this race for me, but we'd welcome it. >> early voting evens august 28. >> dana: is the democrat that strong or something else at work here as you mention chris making that ratings change a couple of weeks ago. >> right, well maybe to your first, the first part of the question, and yes definitely to the second. the electorate is definitely changing. latino population is up to 30% here in arizona. and independent voters are much more influential. all of this of course helps democratic congresswoman kirsten cinema who has a strong past,
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trade tensions with china, you expect the market to sell off. that's not the case. what's going on? as you say, let's crunch the numbers. we added 157,000 jobs in july. that missed expectations, by the way, by about 30,000. 33,000, to be exact. it does show the jobs were created last month despite all of the complaints among businesses about a shortage of skilled labor. the core trend per month is up 200,000. this is important. the upward revisions, both for june and may, may was up 24,000. june up 35,000. very healthy. meaning those two months were the strongest performing months for creating jobs in more than two years. it's interesting. if you look below the headline number, the job market, the labor market still strong. the question is where are the jobs being created? let's have a look. professional and business
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going to put more tariffs on us. we'll probably have more on them and goes on and on. does that catch up to the u.s. economy by november? >> certainly, trish, if we enter into a massive trade war that would be the case. i don't expect that to be the case. we're seeing some clear evidence that not being the most likely scenario. specifically in mexico. a new president there. there's good moves toward negotiation of nafta. i don't think we'll enter into a trade war. at the end of the day, trump will negotiate for freer and fairer trade. that's the m.o. i think conventional wisdom does hold that if the economy, stupid, montra is the way toe go. but not in this case. we have predents showing that the incumbent president will lose seats in congress and the
house is at risk. >> maybe if you use the fear factor and you say look, people, you know, all of this benefit that you've gotten with a better economy could go up in smoke if the house changes hands, maybe that will resonate. i'm not sure. people get comfortable, kind of comfortable, katherine. they're like all right, things are okay. so unless they're like emotionally excited about something or emotionally attached to an issue, it's hard to get that base out to the polls in something like a mid-term election. >> yeah, there's two things that they need to do. one is absolutely look at -- point out the left moving very far to the left. we have gillibrand, warren, all of the 2020 contenders tripping over themselves to move to the left of the next person. that's the one thing. the base and the american people
i don't think line up in terms of values on that side. the second thing is precisely pointing to the economy. i don't think it's only the economy that will win it for the president, although unequivocally tax cuts have generated improved consumer spending and business investment, which is doing tremendously well, which those two things combine more job growth. so those two things are the things that the president needs to focus on. seems like he's turning his attention to immigration, which won him the election. >> that's an issue that resonates in a lot of places. good to see you all. thank you. gop voters in tennessee taking billie to face off against karl dean in the race for governor. lee defeating diane black despite an endorsement by vice president pence. the president tweeting lee has his "total and enthuseastic
endorsement." so larry, i ask that question to you. are people like billie -- bill lee, not the status quo, are they more favored in that environment like our president was going into that election? >> trish, here's the difference with the past. that is pre-2016 when donald trump won not ever having served a day in public office or come through the other route in american history, which is the military. which you like or dislike donald trump, he opened the door to candidacies beyond the traditional. house members running for the senate. senators running for president. state legislators running for the house. those are the traditional routes to victory to public office. now people are willing to consider somebody else like mike
braun, bill lee. so it's not so much -- >> what do you think? career politicians are career politicians. it's nice to get new blood. nice to get someone who has does somebody else in life and has experienced the real world in business. is this what the voters -- >> i don't see anything wrong with it at all. in fact, for years we've said we have problems getting good people to run. indeed, we have. a lot of these positions, particularly at the state legislative level, go unopposed, which is terrible for democracy. it's not good for the parties, not good for the system or the people. >> a lot of these business folks have money of their own. how much is that playing to it, larry? >> it helps, obviously. obviously a big help if you can -- if your fund raiser is a
luncheon with your accountant. >> there's something nice about that too, larry. i look at the political process and all the money involved and the lobbyists, et cetera. i hate the idea that someone in washington has to vote because they're sort of on the hook to some big company or some promoter that they need for their campaign. this gets back to the whole campaign finance reform that we really desperately need because politicians are so reliant on money. nice to see a candidate with his or her own. >> yes, trush, i agree with you on that. if you're going to rely on that kind of self-financing, it will limit the field. it's a nice alternative to having lobbyists from k street hand big checks to politicians. i love this. i only response to the people.
i would never be responsive to x lobbyist or y lobbyist that just gave me $25,000 or $100,000. yeah, right. come on. you're going to at least let them in the door. that's the key. it gives you access even if it doesn't buy a vote on the house or senate. >> you have a disrupter in the oval office and now disrupters all over the country? >> i think we'll see more of this. we still have a lot of primaries to go. we'll see more. >> thanks, larry. protesters trying to shut down ice. now chaining themselves together. we have swat teams in denver forced to literally saw off shackles. are these tactics working or backfire something former ice director tom holman on that next. by...
>> protesters clashing with police outside the entrance to the denver ice office. eight arrests were made. this is the latest in a wave of protests all against the law enforcement agency. it's all coming after new york's democratic candidate for attorney general said this. watch. >> as attorney general, i will continue to speak out against ice. i will prosecute ice for their criminal acts. >> criminal acts? really? criminal? i'm not sure thomas homan would agree with that one. he joins us. wow, she's calling you guys criminal. what do you make of those comments, sir? >> she's irresponsible. it's a disgusting statement. give me one case, one, just one, where an ice officer or agent violated the law.
she wants to be the top cop. first thing she does is call out the law enforcement agency that congress enacted. she needs to educate does. her senator, gillibrand, doesn't like ice either. ice is enforcing the laws in the books. they're not making this up. if she doesn't like what they do, talk to congress. >> is this what the president refers to as fake news as she's trying to say that ice officers are actually doing something illegal? >> i think that statement she's going further left than senator gillibrand and cuomo or casio-cortez. ice arrested or removed 5,000 criminal aliens off the streets of new york last year.
she needs to be thanking ice. >> what happened to those people? they were arrested and removed? >> yes. >> they went back to their home >> yes. >> all right. i would think the governor and the senator would send a thank you to ice rather than threatening us. >> what about the communities where the people don't get deported? criminals on the streets. we're not including fact that they're here illegally. they're here illegally and commit a crime and then you guys say, okay, you know, time for you to leave and you have many communities that will say no, no, no. you're not allowed to do that. what position does that put you in as you try to do your job? >> first of all, it's more dangerous for our officers. rather than taking custody of a public safety threat, they got to go in the neighborhood and find them. it's more dangerous. now they're on their turf. they have access to who knows
what weapons. the thing that people don't want to talk about, we're protecting the immigrant community. these why we're sanctuary city. we're going to find the person but he's probably going to be with other illegal aliens that probably weren't on the radar and going to result in more arrests and people that don't have criminal convictions. so the sanctuary city laws are doing exact opposite of what they're claiming to do. >> the other thing to think about and i imagine you spent some time thinking about this very issue, many of the immigrant communities themselves, they're in jeopardy of having crime because you have bad actors. one would hope that if you can get the bad guys out, maybe the people trying to earn legitimate livings and pay their taxes and take care of their kids have a safer existence. >> you hit the nail on the head. that's another reason why
sanctuary cities are lying to the community. like i said before, that's more illegals in the neighborhoods. second of all, these criminals are getting released without being turned over to ice. they're going back to the communities in which they live. so it's going to make immigrant communities a lot less safe. i've asked every politician to ask this immigrant community. would you rather have ice officers in the jail or in the community? what do you think? if they don't let us in the jail, they're putting immigrant community at risk, my officers at risk and the country at risk and enticing more people to come in illegally to get to a sanctuary city because they think they're protected. they're not. ice will do their job. we're not going to be bullied. you can protest as much as you want. we'll continue to enforce the laws. we took an oath to do that. >> you ever experience anything like this before? you personally. >> i retired three weeks ago.
i've done it for 34 years. i've never seen the intentional mismessaging -- this is a coordinated attempt by the far left to mismessage what isodose. this whole abolish ice started because families were separated on the border. ice didn't do that. the border patrol did. but they blame ice. so it's a mismessaging by the far left to try to tell the american people one thing that it just isn't factual. you look at who ice arrested last year in the entire year, 89%, nine out of ten aliens we arrested had a criminal history. >> we want to keep everybody safe. >> yeah. shoots holes in the story. >> thanks, mr. homan. did the talks with north korea suffer a set back? secretary pompeo says they have a ways to go with the nukes. we're on it for you. stay here.
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>> trish: secretary state pompeo says north korea is far from living up its agreement to give up nukes. where is this heading? rich edson has more. >> the secretary of state warns could be a long process to get to the point that north korea would surrender their nuclear program. the secretary of state acknowledged there's "a ways to go to achieve the ultimate outcome of a nuclear-free north korea." this morning the u.s. treasury department sanctioned a russian bank for working with north koreans. there's also reports that russia is importing labor. to that, nikki haley said in a statement "until we see the
final fully verified denuclearization of north korea, there can be no easing of sanctions. talk is cheap. russia cannot support sanctions with their words in the security council only to violate them with their actions." also on the international front, the u.s. is pressuring turkey to release andrew brunson. he's an american pastor in turkey for the last two years. mike pompeo mid with the turkish foreign minister about this. he says the clock has run out on the government to release the pastor. they said "brunson needs to come home and all of the americans being held by the turkish government. they've been holding these folks for a long tear. they're innocent people." the turkish government arrested brunson a couple months after a failed coup attempt in 2016. this week the treasury department detained two officials because they have been
detaining brunson for so long. >> trish: thanks. how do we get north korea to give up their nukes? we have general boykin here with me. he went over there a lot of pomp and circumstance that went into that president trump and kim jong-un meeting. did it get us what we want? >> well, the mistake the president made was coming out of there saying that north korea is no long area nuclear threat. that raised expectations beyond a reasonable level. i don't know what kim is doing right now, crying to increase inventory to have more to bargain with or have a residual capability to hide or the chinese are leaning on him. secretary pompeo is trying to tell us, this is going to be a long-term process getting to where mr. trump wants to be.
>> what is that like for secretary pompeo, when the president makes statements like it's no longer a nuclear threat and everybody is happy for a new hours and then the reality sinks in that it's not simple. what kind of position does that put somebody like secretary pompeo in? >> first of all, secretary pompeo has done yeoman's work on this. >> trish: he worked on it before he was secretary. >> yes. he went there and brought back hostages. he's done a wonderful job. he's like everybody else. president trump is president trump. he's going to say things from time to time that you're going to have to go around and clean up. when he made that statement about no long area nuclear threat, that did put secretary pompeo in a difficult session. let's face the facts. there's no nuclear tests of warheads or missiles and we just got 53 bodies back.
so kim is clearly interested in keeping this process going. it's frustrating for somebody like secretary pompeo that is carrying the load on in. >> trish: i think our president sees the glass as half full. it's a nice way to go. i appreciate the optimism. as you point out, there has been some successes along the way. maybe not the ultimate success but all of this stuff comes in steps, doesn't it general? so you know, you make a little bit of head way here and a little head way there. eventually hopefully you're on the right path to full denuclearization. trish, where we were a year ago? what happened a year ago? we have to reflect on that. >> you were hearing about little rocketman. >> yeah. and the left was saying mr. trump is about to take us to a nuclear exchange. we're going to war. millions of people will die.
today i don't think where anywhere near that kind of scenar scenario. we're on the road to some successes. we have to expect there will be setbacks and this is a setback right now and mr. pompeo does as well and that's why he made the statement about this was inconsistent with the u.n. resolutions. there's a long ways to go, trish. >> trish: let me quickly ask you about china. china likes having north korea there. being a little bit of a destabilizing influence there for us in that region. is china in our way here on this one? >> well, china is always a problem. remember that north korea is a buffer between china and the west. they like that. i'm not so sure that china isn't leaning on kim because of the reaction to the so-called trade
war or the tariffs that our president has said he's going to place on chinese goods. i think they're showing their muscle a little bit, too. so i think they're part of the problem right now with what we're seeing kim doing. >> you bring up an important point there with the tariffs and the other roles that they can play. thanks, general. >> good to be with you, trish. thanks. >> trish: all right. more protests about gun violence flaring up in chicago. some calling on rahm emanuel to step down. it's who they want to step in that might really surprise you. can you guess? the answer after this. capital one and hotels.com are giving venture cardholders 10 miles on every dollar they spend at thousands of hotels. brrrr! i have the chills. because of all those miles? and because ice... is cold. what's in your wallet?
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>> fox news contributor gianno caldwell is one of those asking the questions. we reached out to rahm emanuel for a statement and we have yet to hear back. gianno, good to see you. >> good seeing you, trish. >> chicago has a real problem, a very big problem, a violence level that is unrivalled by anyone else in this country, anyway. could the president be of help here on the federal government for that matter? >> there's no question about it, trish. when we think about a study that yale did, for every 100,000 residents, there's 113 african americans shot. almost 3 million people in the city of chicago. when we look at those levels, there's no question that major rahm emanuel's inaction has led
to tragedy after tragedy, including my own family. so what i was planned to see from lesean ford who is a senior democrat in the legislature, a chairman of the committee, he's been around, wil liked and loved in his community and represents one of the hardest hit communities on the west side of chicago. when you say listen, i'm more than welcome -- more than hopeful we can get president trump involved and love to get his help that speaks volumes. democrats in chicago follow his lead. at this point, it's tragedy after tragedy we continue to see and rahm emanuel has chosen to ignore the city of chicago's most vulnerable residents. >> why do you think that is? why is he not doing more to pro protect them? >> what is interesting, and i was talking to a lot of protesters there, some said he was prioritizing the illegal immigrant population over the
residents, the african american residents in the city of chicago. they believe that for him, it's about being re-elected after the mcdonald tape, when he withheld that. that turned a lot of people sour. this is a very unique opportunity for president trump because rahm emanuel was considered when he left the white house pretty much the extension of president obama. we know that president obama failed the city of chicago. so wouldn't it be great to be able to have a president that will come in and do much more that what president obama did for the city of chicago? wouldn't it be great to say, this is what i can do if you put your trust in me to help move along and provide resources and safety for the citizens of chicago. wouldn't that be great for the president to say? >> well, if he could do it. the city has to be willing to take the help. i don't think that major rahm emanuel will be enthusiastic about it.
>> and that's fine. >> trish: and you're saying you don't care who does it. you just want results. forget about politics. the reality is, you have to clean up chicago. people have to go outside, walk your kid to school and not be worried about the violence that is so extraordinary there. for that, it doesn't matter what party, what side you're on as long as you can ensure people's safety and opportunity in chicago. >> and i 100% agree with you. at this time we've seen time and time again, leaders, whether democrats or african americans, they refuse to work with the president on pretty much anything when there's literally lives at stake. think about my brother and his situation with him being in a car last memorial day with two of his friends and the car being shot by two individuals 25 times. thankfully he lived but his best friend died in his arm. when i think about that, this isn't just politics for me.
this isn't a talking point in chicago. chicago is not a talking point. this is human life and this is a mission now. this is very personal. so when i find something that is a senior leader in democratic politics in chicago saying hey, mr. president, i want you to come into this community because my community is hurting and citizens across chicago, i want to make sure that everyone knows that there's a welcome mat for president trump in the city of chicago to make some things happen. that is something that we should be talking about across our network. >> trish: just to reiterate, you grew up there, right? >> yes. born and raised. >> trish: born and raised. south side? is that it? >> south side of chicago. >> trish: i remember you telling me. so sorry for your brother and his friend. i hear you. no need for politics when you're talking about something like this. gianno, thank you. >> thank you. >> trish: more after this. ♪ ws ♪ it's so hard to believe ♪ but it's all coming back me.
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>> trish: officials in virginia warning the days of heavy rain could cause a dam in lynchburg to collapse. many residents have been evacuated because of this issue. how are things looking there right now? doug mckelway is live with the latest. looks like you have some rain there, sir. >> yeah, it starts up again every five minutes or so. doing this day after day after day, trish. you're looking at the dam in question behind me. may not look like a dam to you. that's because the road that i'm standing on runs overtop of the dam. if we zoom in, you can see the white truck. if you look overtop of the roof of the truck, you can see where the flooding waters scattered away a portion of the sidewalk and a portion of the dam itself underneath that. the rains came down with unusual intensity around 6:30 p.m.
four to six inches in an hour or two. by 9:30, the city considered a nonmandatory evacuation. 90 people took shelter in a local high school. today engineers came to examine the bridge and the dam and here's what they found. >> the dam is stable at this point. with pendinger with coming in again this evening, we're still concerned about its overall stability going into tonight and tomorrow morning. we're confident at this point the dam is stable and safe. >> the city of lynchburg has known for some time that this ear earthened dam is not up to standards. >> basically any dams built before a certain date didn't have to comply with new dam
safety regulations. so it was known and has been known that the spillway was inadequate to pass the large volume of water. >> the army corps of engineers classified it as a high hazard dam in the 80s. people downstream were at risk if there was a failure. since then, there's been more development, more storm water run-off. in the short term, the first thing was to do was excavate the spillway and then wait for the system plaguing the atlantic states to move out so they can begin more permanent repairs. back to you. >> trish: we hope everyone stays same. thanks, doug. president trump taking on what he calls fake, disgusting news
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i said many times, president trump shouldn't be using that phrase, enemy of the american people, even though his daughter says she doesn't agree with that. putting that aside, disgusting and fake, he has every right to hit back against the unfair coverage that surrounds him even when the news is good. for example, lately on the economy. but he's doing it so often now that he lets the press make that the story instead of the issues. >> you saw all of his administration personnel saying we need to take the russia threat seriously. sarah huckabee sanders's press conference there. and they talked about the need for us to really secure the whole election process. somehow that got lost because this happened. we're going to roll the tape. i want your reaction. >> i also think it's ironic -- i'm trying to answer your question. i politely waited and i called on you.
the media continues to ratchet up the verbal assault against the president and everyone in this administration. >> you did not say in the course of those remarks that you just made that the press is not the enemy of the people. >> trish: howie, that was clearly a frustrated jim acosta. some have said he's grandstanding a little bit here. >> you think? jim acosta always makes it about himself. it's a favorite phrase of her boss. she said, i'm the only press secretary to have secret service. then he walks out. trump is great for acosta. he gets the publicity. it was a very important news conference just before that with
all of these tough officials talking about fighting russian cyber hacking now. >> trish: he can't win on that one either. we ran some clips showing how the mainstream media were all over him saying why is he doing this now? that's the same group saying why aren't they doing this now. so you see what's going on. >> right. so if you don't do it, it's like the administration is too passive. if you bring in the top officials running the department that can come back, oh, you're just trying to distract from the manafort trial or the mueller investigation. it's like the pundits have their go-to plays on this. i believe presidents should be
covered a gueggressively here. you can pick it a part if that's what you want. how about saying hey, he might deserve credit for the fact that the economy is cooking. >> trish: no, i think that if you're truthful with yourself and you're truthful with your viewer, you need to call the good and the bad. there's certainly been plenty of good. but you never see that on, say, some of those other networks. >> unless your business model is to play to a trump audience. and i fear that's the case. >> trish: then we get back to putin wants to divide us. you have the mainstream media doing his job. >> interesting way to put it. >> trish: thanks, howie. looking forward to seeing you this weekend on your show sunday. tune in to "howie and the media buzz." the new space race is on. we'll talk about it next. ♪motorcycle revving
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the opportunity. >> when americans are working together, and respecting and cherishing our individual differences, when americans do the impossible. and i am so honored, to be a part of that, along with all of my colleagues here. i'll tell you, being able to launch to the international space station from u.s. soil, i can't imagine a better honor. we're ready. >> now to have the opportunity to work with these great companies on something that is so important to our nation and to nasa, this is the stuff of dreams. >> you know, we always think when we think about the space program and the heros of it, the john glenns, neil armstrong, buzz aldrin, well now it's a little bit more the ee lon misings, jeff bezos and richard branson's. they're driving this. and they can maybe do it more cheaply and efficiently than government. we used to spend 5% of the budget, the annual budget back in the '60s on the space program.
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now is that this will kick off the appeal process, again so they can argue that andrew miller does not want to and will not appear before the grand jury as a part of this investigation. what they have argued in the past is they believe this investigation on its whole is unconstitutional, and that is why they think miller should not have to participate in this testimony, this grand jury testimony. so this is their plan going forward. obviously keep in mind miller is not the only aide related to roger stone. somebody in roger stone's orbit that mueller's team has been interested in, kristen davis is supposed to appear later today. so we're on the lookout for her as well, john. >> mj lee outside the courthouse where the grand jury is here in washington. appreciate it. keep in touch if there's more developments. let's go back to the manafort
trial. one of the things we don't know is what is this about? at this point, we're getting close to getting to the jury. judges and attorneys have more conversations at that time in a trial. now you have this mystery where this judge goes out. as we try to figure out what this mystery is, and i don't want to speculate. we know that the prosecutors came to court today for the succeed d second day in a row asking the judge to clean up some of the words they say were prejudicial. they were having testimony yesterday about a loan paul manafort was trying to get, and the judge cracked saying, focus on a loan he actually got. the prosecutors are mad. if you're in a criminal conspiracy, it doesn't matter if you get to the finish line. so there's been tension with the judge about his conduct in the case. how significant is that? >> i mean, could be significant. we don't know exactly what this delay is all about. we don't know if the judge will clear up any of the things the prosecution has been concerned
about. they are concerned what he's been saying could influence the jury in the long run. i think what's interesting also is that we don't know about why a decision was made to seal this discussion that occurred also involving rick gates and the trump campaign and if this is a suggestion by the prosecution that gates is cooperating with the mueller team about that separate investigation, which is about russian interference and about whether there was any collusion with the trump campaign. so a lot of unanswered questions. we'll see how significant they turn out to be. >> normally you get toward the end of a trial, you're clearing up questions. at this juncture, we're adding questions. here's what happened in court. the defense lawyer questioning rick gates, the star witness, paul manafort's former business partner who said, yes, we broke a lot of laws, yes, we lied on our taxes, yes, we lied on these bank forms. that's what rick gates has been saying. the defense has been trying to say you did this. paul manafort is not involved.
kevin downing, the defense attorney. have you been interviewed by other members of the office of special counsel about the trump campaign? rick gates, yes. downing, and were you interviewed on several occasions about your time at the trump campaign? so the defense brings the campaign into the trial. the prosecution says, whoa, stop. they go up to the judge. there was a court filing. the conversation they had with the judge is now sealed. often those kwfrconversations s up later. that has been ordered sealed because the special counsel filed this, disclosing the identified transcript portions would reveal substantive evidence pertaining to an ongoing investigation. sealing will minimize any risk of prejudice from the disclosure of new information relating to that ongoing trial. so rick gates is not just a key witness in the paul manafort trial. they're trying to mine gates for something later. >> that's where this gets really
fascinating. this whole case about manafort has been kind of hard to follow. it's unrelated to president trump other than that manafort was very important to his campaign. the gates stuff is directly relevant to what mueller is looking into. he was in a key position during all of these key moments. the trump tower, the wikileaks document dump. and he stayed on after manafort left. so he's in a very important position to reveal something. now we have what seems to be evidence that he is talking with the special counsel. >> that his role is way more important than just rearview mirror, what paul manafort and he did before they joined the campaign. >> but i think it also reminds us of how much we don't know about what's going on with the investigation. sometimes i feel like i'm having coffee with rudy giuliani every morning because he's on tv so much. but we're only hearing 50% of the story. i think that's a really important thing to keep in mind, especially when you get these little trickles of information
that make you say, oh, well, what's behind the door? we really don't know. so i think when we look at the polling numbers, when we think about this investigation as a political entity, we just don't know what's going to come. it's really hard to be predictive or, you know, make assumptions like the trump campaign seems to make. oh, this'll be done by september 1 because of this doj guidance. well, it's not so clear that doj guidance pertains to this investigation. so i think that's a really important thing to keep in mind here. >> yeah, i think watching the trial unfold, the question raised in many people's minds is how does this relate to the 2016 election? how does it relate to russian meddling? that conversation that defense lawyers raise really revealed that the mueller team was talking to rick gates and perhaps using him -- has plannings to use him as a witness against trump. not only that, but if they extract a conviction against manafort, they also hope to squeeze him for information.
>> you come away when you see that with a clear impression the special counsel -- the trump people would like to say this is an isolated case, nothing to do with the trump campaign. special counsel making the case this is a building block, this is one of our cases, but we're going to move on from here. to the point you make about so much we don't know. mj lee standing outside of that courthouse. a person most people in america haven't heard of, andrew miller defies a subpoena. think back to the elliott spitzer days, a lot of people heard of kristen davis, the manhattan madam. she's about to be a witness for the grand jury. you say, what? what does this have to do with russian election meddling or any trump campaign nefarious activity alleged? we do know they're both very good friends of roger stone. we do know roger stone says this is just because he's a good twitter reader and a good interview reader. roger stone knew in advance or signaled in advance about the wikileaks document dump. do we have any sense of how they think these stone associates can get them to a relevant piece of information? >> we know that they're circling
around roger stone. for weeks they've been interviewing some of his key associates, people like michael caputo, long-time friend of roger stone, and others. they have not spoken with stone, which is also a suggestion they want to talk to people in his orbit before talking to him. i think it also signals more broadly the trump team wants this to conclude by september. this is not going to conclude by september. this investigation is ongoing. there's a lot we don't know. there are some key people yet to be interviewed. they ultimately have to determine how to move forward. >> to that point, there's no hard and fast rule the special counsel has to shut down. there's a general principle that within 60 days or so, you don't deliberately do anything that could interfere with that election. james comey is recent exhibit a in how people say don't do it that way. here's jay sekulow, one of the president's lawyers. they continue to make the public case that mueller has a
responsibility to shut it down. >> this needs to be over with soon. it's -- i think it's been very bad for the country. we're at a point in this inquiry where they can wrap it up. this has been the most transparent investigation in u.s. history. all of these documents given, all of these witnesses put forward, they really don't need to speak to the president. they haven't made the constitutional case to speak to the president. >> he doesn't mention all the stories changed. i would also say all the lies told. the president's lawyers, we'll see if they ever end up in go court, if they're good lawyers. there's no requirement on robert mueller, number one. number two, most people who know robert mueller think he's a career guy. he's not going to deliberately poke during an election season, but he's going to do his work. they're just trying to convince, what, the electorate that if bob mueller keeps going, he's a horrible person? >> it's an argument about propriety and if he were to do something, it would be a break with tradition, inappropriate,
and the president's lawyers are making political arguments because they're worried about impeachment, which is a political matter. i think they're doing what's appropriate in the interest of their client. >> but to lisa's point, we don't hear from bob mueller during all of this. we only hear from the trump side of things. that's had a big hit on bob mueller's numbers. he's been sort of slowly and methodically doing the work and building his case. >> when he wants us to know something, he will let us know something. >> last i checked, president trump is not on the ballot. there's a real open question about how much of that rule pertains to elections where the person in question is not on the ballot. >> great point. we'll keep an eye on this one as we count down to those 60 days. we're mainly waiting to see what happens in the manafort trial this afternoon. up next, president trump being criticized for not doing enough to secure the border. by a democrat.
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we're building that wall. we're building the wall. don't worry. we've already started. we've already started. we're building that wall. we've already started. we're doing a lot of things that people don't even know about. >> that's president trump this past weekend in ohio recycling a signature 2016 theme in an effort to excite republican voters about the 2018 midterms. but the administration's own numbers don't always back up the president's tough immigration talk. and because of that, we have an interesting midterm twist today. the president still struggling to get his wall money from congress and arrests for illegal border crossings are up in 2018 after dipping last year. so, get this, a vulnerable trump state democratic senator now trying to turn the tables. north dakota senator heidi heitkamp says, quote, i don't share the view when people say, well, we don't need to do anything. the border is secure. the border is not secure, but we need to be smart about how we do
border security. here's the punchline. we're waiting for a southern border strategy. bam. it's not often that you have a democrat essentially saying the president either isn't tough enough or doesn't have a plan, choose your way to characterize it, on immigration. >> yeah, moving to the right of trump. she also supported the gang of eight immigration bill that did have a lot of border security money but also included a pathway to citizenship for people here illegally. this is an issue that of course -- >> suggesting she's trying to reposition herself to the right. >> yes, perhaps. i know that's shocking in an election year. undoubtedly, this is an issue republicans view as something they can energize their base on. trump is saying they're starting to build the wall. that is far from the truth right now. and they're not getting the money they need. he's also not fulfilling his own campaign pledge. where is mexico paying for this? >> he's talked about the
possibility of a government shutdown if he doesn't get a big chunk, an allocation of money in the last spending bill they have to do when congress comes back. i want to put these numbers up so you see them. there's been a lot of tougher enforcement by the administration, but there's also this. the numbers don't lie. southern border patrol apprehensions. you see the numbers going up. this is the current fiscal year. the government fiscal year starts in october, running through july. you see those numbers. here's a little comparison. fiscal year 2014 when obama was president, there's the numbers there. family unit apprehensions, just shy of 70,000. '14, just 77,000, almost 78,000. the trump number is higher than the obama numbers. >> i think there are two ways to read those numbers. one is are there more crossings because the economy is booming and the president is empowering border patrol agents to arrest people? but the heitkamp thing is such a fascinating win doe into red-state democrats. she's not the only one. joe donnelly of indiana came out
saying he supports building the wall. joe manchin of west virginia, the same. on the wall in particular, i really think that the president's calls to build the wall are -- i go back to that old cliche of the election that trump's voters take him seriously but not literally. i really think it stands for really people wanting strong border enforcement. you know that heitkamp called really for a southern border strategy. i think she's right on with that. i don't think trump's voters will be disappointed if we don't have a wall specifically, but they do want border enforcement. >> one of the strengths of the trump campaign was that he was and rightly so in many cases, able to look voters in the eye and say career politicians are hypocrites. they say one thing and do another. he made the case that the clintons don't play by the rules. sometimes fairly, sometimes not so fairly. that sold. don't trust career politicians. will it affect him that he rails against this so-called chain migration? and forgive me, his wife's parents were made united states citizens yesterday through the very policy that the president
of the united states says should be ripped up and thrown away. >> it probably should, you know. it is clearly hypocritical. there are so many instances where hypocrisy doesn't seem to stick to donald trump. why that is, you know, is many thesis papers to explore that. i do think that it's a clearly hypocritical move where his family is benefitting. it's kind of another interesting instance where melania trump's parents, the lawyer for them, was making a clear point in stating that chain migration is a dirty word to describe family reunification. it's one of those instances where melania in her view points are totally at ods from president trump and his view points and what his administration is doing. >> we shall see as that plays out. >> i think this will affect him about as much as the trump organization's use of foreign
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midterms are historically about who's sitting in the oval office, but some republicans are trying to flip the script and make nancy pelosi the issue. >> dishonest danny would vote with pelosi to raise taxes and give amnesty to millions of illegals. dishonest danny o'connor, he'd make washington worse. >> before you vote, do your research. nancy pelosi has. that's why pelosi's financing lisa brown's campaign. same values, same liberal records. >> under nancy pelosi, our economy crashed. reckless spending devastating unemployment. >> according to a group that tracks campaign ads, 37% of republican tv ads that aired in ohio's 12th district mentioned or featured pelosi. nationally, 11% of all gop house and senate ads at least mention pelosi. republicans say using pelosi as
a midterm motivator works. while democrats call that wishful thinking or at least exaggerated spin, it's no secret these gop attacks come as more and more democrats say they won't support the california democrat for speaker if their party retakes the house this november. that tells me that it may not be working as well as republicans say, but it has to be working if more and more democrats are saying, nope, won't do it, right? >> so i think there's two interesting parts of this argument. one on each side. so obviously as many of your viewers know, running against pelosi was a big issue in this recent special election in ohio. what a republican down there told me was that the republicans saw it as a particularly good motivator for some republicans who maybe were a little shaky on the president. that, well, you feel shaky on the president, but you really don't want house speaker pelosi. so this is why you got to turn out. this is why you have to vote republican. on the democratic side, i think it's a good argument for democrats because not only does
it inoculate them against these republican attacks, but it also gets at this other piece that many in their base would like to see, which is generational change that they have this fairly elderly leadership in the house and there's certainly a large portion of the party, a notable portion of the party that would like to see younger blood. >> good. >> and pelosi has a real challenge here in becoming speaker again, particularly of the democratic majority. there are a lot of democrats on record saying they won't support her. maybe this is just politics and seeing it on the campaign trail and they'll feel differently in secret ballot elections. but on the floor, those are not secret votes. she can only lose so many. that's why a lot of democrats say privately and some publicly why are you even giving the republicans an issue? you becoming speake again will be very hard. >> that's what's going to -- she's going to face a tough choice. people think -- a lot of people
thought she would face that choice after the election. some people might think before the election. if we move closer, past labor day, and it's like, yeah, the democrats will probably retake the house but it's still a question, no, he's not going to take advice from bill crystal. but he does post this today. pelosi would do her party a favor by announcing that though she looks forward to being part of a democratic majority, that she looks forward to a new leader and she's urging her 75 and over colleagues not do so as well. could there come a point before the election where she has to deal with this question? or is she koconvinced she can a least ride out the election? she's the most organized person in the democratic party. she's the best fundraiser, particularly for house democrats. and she gets this. she can count. >> and i don't think there's any hint of her backing down. she sat down with "the boston globe" editorial board in may and said, i don't want five men
sitting at that table, referring to all the men in congressional and white house leadership. i'm going to be at that table. so she's very committed, i think, to running again for house speaker, even though it probably would benefit her party if she tried to kind of pass the baton. >> but would she run if her math told her she might lose? >> i think she probably would. i think that she believes that she can win. she believes that she can -- the democratic enthusiasm will be so intense if they do win and at the end all these naysayers wllh come to her side. >> we'll continue to watch the dynamic. we have to take a pause for some breaking news. special counsel robert mueller issuing yet another subpoena in the russia investigation. this one also involving trump confidant roger stone. our justice correspondent jessica schneider joins us from washington. jessica, spell this out. >> reporter: a lot seems to be swirling around roger stone. of course, we're seeing the
manhattan madam at the grand jury today. now word just out that the special counsel's team has, in fact, subpoenaed randy credico. randy credico is a comedian, a radio show host, and a friend of roger stone. it was randy credico who roger stone said was his back channel to wikileaks and wikileaks founder julian assange. we know credico initialy refused an interview. he has now agreed to a voluntary interview. this grand jury subpoena is for september 7. not too far away, less than a month away. it really shows that this investigation continues to go on. it continues to move forward. it looks like roger stone is a big part of this investigation. roger stone himself has not been in contact with the special counsel's office, but all of these people in his orbit are
now part of this special counsel probe. again, the manhattan madam is before the grand jury today. we know andrew miller, who is also a confidant of roger stone, he was also subpoenaed. he has not appeared. he will be held in contempt. and now this latest subpoena for randy credico. one last thing, john. rudy giuliani talked about this investigation wrapping up by september 1st. we can see that just by the mere fact that this subpoena for randy credico is for september 7th, that looks very unlikely, and it won't happen. john? >> very important point at the end there. jessica schneider, thank you. september 7th happens to be 60 days before the midterm elections. there's a signal. robert mueller doesn't talk in public, but what he puts on the court calendar tells you a little something. we'll keep track of that as well. before we go to break, marking a milestone. 25 years ago today, ruth bader ginsburg sworn in as the second female supreme court justice. >> in my lifetime, i expect
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several players kneeled, raised fists, or stayed in the locker rooms during the national anthem at last night's preseason games. the nfl says it is still trying to work out a compromise with players. while those talks are ongoing, it will not enforce a previous announced policy that did include fines and other potential penalties. president trump is tweeting he's authorized a doubling of tariffs on steel and aluminum from turkey. the white house says this is a national security issue, but sources telling cnn it's also because of the failed discussions to bring home an american pastor detained in turkey. meanwhile, the turkish lira tanked today because of tensions with the united states and the unwillingness of turkish authorities to raise interest rates. a tiny difference in the vote count but a giant controversy in the republican primary for kansas governor. here's the tally. kris kobach has a 116-vote lead over the incumbent governor jeff colyer. it's the secretary of state
required to verify the vote. kobach said he'll recuse himself given he's one of the candidates. take a listen. >> i guess i'll be happy to recuse myself. as i say, it really doesn't make any difference. my office doesn't count the votes. the counties do. it's purely symbolic because i don't have any involvement in the recount, but i said of course, if he wants me to, i would. he's said, okay, i do want you to. so i will. up next, the potential democratic 2020 field just got a little more crowded. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don't.
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track of sorts. michael avenatti is in iowa. you know him from the tv. he's attorney for adult film actress stormy daniels. yesterday you see him right there at the iowa state fair. that's a traditional walking tour, face time with potential voters. tonight avenatti has the stage. he's the lead speaker at a democratic fundraising event. he'll test his theory that voters will be looking outside the box as they pick someone to test the current outside the box incumbent. >> i'm here to listen to the great people of iowa, explore the fair, and see if it makes sense to run for president. i think i could beat the president in a general election. i think it's going to be a brutal campaign. i think it's going to require a fighter. i think it's going to require somebody that's scrap wpy. i think it's going to require someone to engage in a significant cage match for the future of this country. >> cage match. i yield the floor.
what do we make of this? >> i'm really, really tired thinking about the democratic field for 2020 already. >> which one of the 25 or 26 or 27? >> i think when you start counting the ones who will flirt with the bid to raise their profile, which may be what mr. avenatti is doing here, 25 might be a lowball number. you're going to need a lot of graphs and charts, moving maps to keep track of them all. >> your first instinct is to laugh, right? forgive me, mr. avenatti. a guy with no political experience. a guy who's been on tv, going after the president in the stormy daniels case. then, wait a minute, donald trump had no experience, a lot of people laughed, said reality tv star, this is just to raise his profile. this is about his ego. >> one thing the democratic base is going to be looking for is someone who's going to go after the president, toe to toe, fight him tooth and nail. that's going to be a real interesting way to see how the
democratic field shapes up because there will be some who naturally because of their personalities will not necessarily want to go as far as a lot of folks on the left want to go, which would be to impeach and then convict the president. others may be more moderate in their approach to the president. michael avenatti clearly is not. maybe he does appeal to that segment of the base. >> we'll see if he's successful or not. sometimes people who get in a race or around in the pregame of a race do influence other candidates even if they do well. here's michael avenatti. you remember michelle obama, if they go low, we go high. when they go low, i say we hit harder. >> that clearly has been his strategy. the question in my mind about avenatti is trump was able to self-fund. i don't think avenatti would be able to self-fund at the same level. at the same time, he's gotten an enormous amount of free media. he's taken a lot of shots at the president. it's not clear to me that any of them have really landed. so i don't think he has a great
track record from which to run. >> would you want to be one of his clients right now? in the sense this has already come up during the michael cohen proceedings in new york where there was a question about whether avenatti should be barred because he's always on television. there was this no person involved in this action has been more yubiquitous in the media than michael avenatti. that was from a federal judge. now anything he says in court for any client can be questioned as politically motivated, right? >> yeah, and i think you're seeing the transition of his career at this moment from a court-time lawyer to somebody arguing in public. but i do think it illustrates the wide openness of this democratic field, the fact that we will think about and talk about and it will get written about the fact that michael avenatti is going to iowa. >> let's be fair. these worker bees get frustrated when these quote/unquote candidates get attention. there's a congressman, mr. delaney, he's in iowa.
we have this picture, i hope. the former republican speaker of the house john boehner, shorts and boat shoes. he says de lay nebraska laney i old buds. showing up for a democratic congressman. okay. >> john boehner is loving life right now. that's for sure. i don't think we expect delaney/boehner 2020. that's probably a little of a stretch. >> sure. >> but, you know, nobody knows. we're in an era with new political rules. nobody quite knows what they are. you will see a lot of democrats throwing out their theory of the case, throwing it up against the wall, and taking share shot. >> and we'll see who paul ryan shows up with. >> excellent. touche. i like that. he'll join boehner in the era of no political rules. up next for us, one year after charlottesville, kanye west, spike lee both on television saying very different things about president trump and race. this is a story about mail and packages.
bundle and save big, but now it's time to find my dream abode. -right away, i could tell his priorities were a little unorthodox. -keep going. stop. a little bit down. stop. back up again. is this adequate sunlight for a komodo dragon? -yeah. -sure, i want that discount on car insurance just for owning a home, but i'm not compromising. -you're taking a shower? -water pressure's crucial, scott! it's like they say -- location, location, koi pond. -they don't say that. two prominent african-american celebrities and two very different takes on president trump one year after the stain of charlottesville. kanye west telling jimmy kimmel he continues to support the president and this he gets annoyed with african-americans who tell him that is unacceptable. >> everyone around me tried to pick my candidate for me, and then told me every time i said i
liked trump that i couldn't say it out loud or my career would be over, i'd get kicked out the black community because blacks, we're supposed to have a monolithic thought. it represented overcoming fear and doing what you felt no matter what anyone said and saying, you can't bully me. liberals can't bully me. news can't bully me. the hip-hop community can't bull y me. >> spike lee said the president stoked division. >> the president of the united states had a chance to denounce hate, hate groups. the whole world saw what happened, and he didn't do it. since this guy's gotten in the white house, it's not even a dog whistle. it's a bull horn.
and then also, anderson, we've seen a rise of the right not just in america but worldwide. >> interesting perspectives from both. where are we a year later? i just add this to the conversation, if i were the president, this would horrify me. 49% yes, 47% no. the question, do you think trump is a racist? half the country thinks the president of the united states is a racist. >> it's stunning. the question is, is the president concerned about that? when he talks about african-americans, he often talks about how the unemployment levels are low. he doesn't really get into anything beyond that. and does he need to come out and say something more publicly now that we're at the year anniversary of charlottesville. there's no indication he will. >> he's not tried to start any dialogue nationally. there was some talk he might do that after the nfl season. instead, he's still picking fights, whether it's lebron james and the basketball arena or the nfl players today. he keeps picking fights with
black athletes. >> you can add to this list omarosa has a new book out and she's alleging there are tapes with him using racial slurs. i think there's added evidence of some of these racial hostilities. i think we as a country generally have not had teaching moments on this issue. it's just been more division over racial issues, which the president has not let on. >> he clearly thinks it's good politics with his base. it's also clearly fairly divisive for the country. >> i don't think trump intends his presidency to be about unity except in the sense of recapturing an american identity that i think many african-americans feel excludes them. i would add maybe latinos to that. i think in the president's conception, it doesn't necessarily. he thrives on divisiveness. >> and the laura ingraham comments in the news this
tucker will have in just a moment. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. the president about to begin a rally in orlando, florida. he will officially be announcing his 2020 election bid. good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we will be covering the president's announcement right here live as soon as it starts. it's imminent apparently. what does the president need to do to win this election now a year and a half away as we await for the president to begin his speech. we will ask that question of dana perino, host of the daily briefing with dana perino, our friend. dana, thanks a lot for joining us tonight. >> dana: happy to be here. >> tucker: if you were running this campaign, what would you make it about, this re-election campaign? >> dana: so interesting because he was a disrupter candidate from 2016 but now he is the incumbent and incumbency comes with a lot
of benefits. okay. you have got the plane. you have the organization. and now you have a record. he has a big war chest and organization like he has never had before. i think i would make it about three things. number one, keep the economy hot. as hot as possible. he has to figure out a way to maybe moderate the things that could hurt it, such as the trade wars. try to land that deal with the chinese. avoid a debt default crisis. the congress is already trying to work that out. and to the extent that he possibly can, if the democrats are willing, when they do that one bill that they will get through this year, if they will cut a deal on infrastructure do that and show you have the ability to move things forward. second thing i would do is define the democrats. he was very good at defining all of the republicans that he ran against in the 2015 and 2016 primary. now he has to do that to the democrat. voters disliked hillary a lot more than they loved donald trump. now, as you can see at this rally, there is a lot of people that love donald trump, but the democrats are also very energized. so he has to define them
very quickly. the third thing is i think he has to figure out to remain the change candidate as much as he possibly can he is more antiestablishment than any democrat running except for, perhaps, bernie sanders. and eight of the last 10 elections were all about change. those are the ones that were successful. so, how do you run as an incumbent and still say that you are the change candidate? i think you would have to say i have got so much done you can't believe how much i got done. it's amazing, it's beautiful all that i got done but there is still a lot more to do. that's how i would do it. i would also try to throw as much chaos into the democratic primary as possible. >> tucker: so that's it right there. let's assume and i actually don't believe this but judging by today's numbers it would be fair to assume that he would be facing off against joe biden. >> dana: okay. >> tucker: wouldn't it be wiser to highlight the radical elements the democratic party ocasio-cortez, ilhan omar, the radicalized in the house and try to tie the opponent
to those figures? >> i think the more that president trump in his re-election efforts can push the democrats further to the left, the better off he will be. you have already seen joe biden have to go for left than where he has been for decades. hyde amendment on abortion funding. china, for example, the crime bill, we will see how he does on that. next week when he does the debates he is the tallest oak in the yard and all of the other democrats are going to want to chop him down. the more president trump can put spotlight and focus on that chaos, push him to the left the better off he will be and the better off the other members of congress will be that are running for re-election or just running for election. the third one house seats that went democrat that gave nancy pelosi the speaker's gavel those are up for grabs again in 2020. this time, instead of like 2018, this time you have president trump at the top of the ticket and maybe those seats could flip back
to republicans if they play their cards right. >> tucker: so we're getting way ahead of ourselves but i can't resist asking you. the senate, does that likely stay in republican hands? >> dana: yes, yes, it does. actually, there are people that work on the senate side and republican politics. it's a good year for republicans but it's also the possibility that they could pick up a seat or two. the michigan race is going to be very interesting to watch. i think that republicans are concerned about arizona and colorado. but, other than that, i think they feel pretty good about things. >> tucker: yeah. those seats have changed an awful lot. dana perino who has not changed except for the better. great to see you tonight. thank you. >> dana: all right, thanks. >> tucker: last night the president tweeted that ice will soon begin large scale deportations of millions of illegal immigrants in the united states. millions. buck sexton is a radio host, very familiar with what's happening on the border. he has been there recently. he joins us tonight. buck, thanks a lot for coming on. what do you make of this?
this seems like a pretty dramatic departure from where we have been. i think a lot of people, certainly me included would welcome. this is it going to happen? >> i think it's going to start, tucker. and that will have a couple of effects. one is that if he does, in fact, go forward with this and there is now confirmation from senior administration officials. i was speaking to somebody earlier today who was saying, no, this is real, this is going to happen. they are going to start telling people who have had all their due process, who are in the country illegally, who have been adjudicated and been found that they should be deported under the law they are told they have to go, democrats are going to oppose. this democrats are going to say hold on a second, that's not right. that's not fair. which also gives the lie to what they have been saying all along about the central american migrant crisis, the so-called asylum seekers but oh we promise once they get their process, sure, we will be okay with them being deported. that's obviously not the case. they are really in on this scam and it's going to force democrats to have to admit that they don't believe in the rule of law.
they like the process until it comes to an end and then the process isn't really for them anymore. >> tucker: right. so, is there some good reason why i should, i don't know, pay my taxes or register my car? i mean, if people who are not allowed to live in this country, according to democrats can ignore the law, why am i obeying it? >> yeah. i think what have you seen from democrats, especially with the mueller probe going on in the background for quite some time is, you know, if you are a friend of donald trump's and you misremember what you had for breakfast six months ago people are cheering for you to go to prison. prominent democrats seem to think that manafort in solitary confinement is such great justice and the country is achieving a better future because of it. the massive and systematic fraud, and that's what it is that has been perpetrated at our southern border with democrats really complicit in it by pretending bedon't all know what's happening. people lying about being family units. people lying about or fleeing violence when they in fact are economic
migrants who want a better future. this is going to finally bring into focus, at a perfect time, because we are headed to a election, that democrats are effectively open border parties and only believe in the law when they like the law. >> tucker: this is a winning issue, i think for the president. >> it is. >> tucker: buck sexton, thanks a lot for that. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: from the other side in instagram video broadcast congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez of new york denounced holding facilities on the united states border as, quote: concentration camps. ned ryun is founder and ceo of american majority and he joins us tonight. ned, thanks for coming on. >> good to be with you. >> tucker: concentration camps. what do you make of that description. >> first of all, it's deeply insulting for her to compare our very humane detention centers to what the nazis did with -- their concentration camps and exterminating 6 million jews. the amazing part to me is it seems lost on aoc that these illegal aliens are coming of
their own volition. nobody is compelling them to come. they come here illegally and yet we still treat them very humanely and to say that's the moral equivalent of what the nazis did of forcing jews into concentration camps and gassing millions of them to death is insulting and diminishes the horrors of the holocaust, tucker. >> tucker: yes. and the sacrifice of the american soldiers who helped defeat nazi germany and liberate the camps. >> that's right. >> tucker: the whole thing is grotesque. >> this is a game to them. >> tucker: suggests being held because of ethnicity and minority being held because of who they are rather than what they have done. >> this is a game tucker. first of all, it calls into question. i truly believe they don't believe in national sovereignty anymore. this is a game to them for them to invoke the holocaust and hitler and the nazis to use as a rhetorical bludgeon against their opponents that don't agree with them on anything and they know they can get away with it because
their fellow travelers in the mainstream media instead of fact-checking them actually are tying themselves in knots today defending her, making outrageous statements. i mean, even saying one cnn senior editor said a auschwitz was a work and concentration camp it got so bad chris hayes had to be fact-checked by the auschwitz museum and said you should probably get educated on what actually happened during the holocaust. >> tucker: that's also disgusting. ned ryun, thank you. >> it is disgusting, thanks, tucker. >> tucker: good to see you. last night the president authorized the deployment of another 1,000 american troops to the middle east. this follows an alleged iranian attack on two oil tankers. the u.s.s. seems to be slipping toward war there. meanwhile we have no permanent secretary of defense. the acting secretary, patrick hand shan, you may have read, just stepped aside over prior domestic incidents. he has now been replaced by former raytheon mark esper. colonel, thanks for coming
on. obvious question, first, are we as we appear to be moving toward conflict with iran? >> oh, look, let's hope not. because, if the president looks out on the sea of faces he has in front of him tonight, all of these supporters, he needs to be reminded of two things. first what buck has already covered about securing the border and, secondly, about his promise to end these pointless, endless wars in the middle east. he needs to get us out of afghanistan. he needs to get out of syria. he needs to get out of iraq. if he can't turn to an audience like the one he has got tonight a year from now and say, look, i promised, i delivered. i think he is not going to see everybody show up at the ballot box that he would like to be there. >> tucker: i think that's wise advice. colonel doug macgregor, thank you very much. we are going to orlando. the president is being introduced. we're joined now by chief fox national correspondent ed henry. ed, so this is the official
kickoff of the 2020 campaign. >> ed: yeah, tucker, in many ways this has been game on for some time now as you know the president has already done many rallies across the country. yes, this is the official kickoff. and it just proves to us what we have known since at least 2,000. florida, florida, florida. that was a big part of the president flipping the narrative around on the mainstream media, which said again and again that the math doesn't work. that he simply could not get to 270 electoral votes. once he turned florida and then he went up pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. obviously, that's what got him far beyond that number. and, look, it's instructive that the same, you know, wise people who say they seem to know everything about politics are telling us, again, the president is behind in all of these battlegrounds. quinnipiac, for example, a poll out just a couple of hours ago saying the president is down 9 points in the state of florida to joe biden. guess what?
quinnipiac had andrew gillum, the democrats, winning the governorship by seven points in 2018. he is not the governor tonight. as the president stands on that stage in orlando. so, these polls can be off. and i think that's one of many things this president is banking on because of the strong economy. >> tucker: i wonder if the campaign, the trump campaign believes that the democratic nominee will be joe biden? >> ed: that's their expectation. that is in private why they say the president has spent a fair bit of time on social media going after joe biden. but, on the other hand, you can sees a the democratic race plays out that elizabeth warren and others on the left seem to have a lot more energy and enthusiasm on their side, which makes us wonder tonight is joe biden the frontrunner in name only right now? his numbers have come down a little. not a lot. a little. but, look, this is the kickoff for the president
tonight. the kickoff really for the democrats is next week when they have their first debate. so this finally is, you know, we are here. and we are going to find out whether joe biden is going to stay the frontrunner or not. [chanting u.s.a.] >> tucker: it looks like the first lady may be speaking. this is interesting. we will go to this. ed henry. thank you so much. >> it has been my honor to serve as first lady of this incredible country for the past two years. [cheers and applause] and i'm excited to do it for six more. [cheers and applause] i'm proud of all that my husband, his administration and our entire family have done on behalf of the american people in such a short time. [cheers and applause] he truly loves this country and will continue to work on your behalf as long as he
can. all of us will. thank you all again for being here tonight. and now i want to introduce my husband, the president of the united states, donald j. trump. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [chanting u.s.a.]
>> oh, we had such luck in orlando. we love being in orlando. thank you, orlando. thank you, orlando. what a turnout. what a turnout. [cheers and applause] you know, i said this is a very big arena for a tuesday night. you know, if we have about three or four empty seats the fake news will say headlines, he didn't fill up the arena. you know. [crowd boos] >> so i said maybe we shouldn't take a chance. maybe we shouldn't go to orlando. we should go some place else and i said no, i think we will go to orlando. [cheers and applause] and not only did we fill it up, but we had 120,000 requests. [cheers and applause] that means you folks have come out very, very good.
congratulations. i want to thank our great vice president mike pence and his wonderful wife karen pence. [cheers and applause] and our magnificent first lady, melania. thank you. [cheers and applause] i'm thrilled to be back in my second home, that's what it is. it's my second home. in many cases i think i can say it's my first home if you want to know the truth. it's the great state of florida. [cheers and applause] very historic. because exactly four years ago this week i announced my campaign for president of the united states. [cheers] >> and it turned out to be more than just a political campaign, it turned out to be a great political
movement because of you. [cheers and applause] a great movement. it's a movement made up of hard-working patriots who love their country, love their flag, love their children, and who believe that a nation must care for its own citizens first. [cheers and applause] together we stared down a broken and corrupt political establishment and we restored government of, by, and for the people. [cheers and applause] our country is now thriving, prospering and booming and, frankly, it's soaring to incredible new heights. [cheers] our economy is the envy of
the world, perhaps the greatest economy we have had in the history of our country. [cheers and applause] and as long as you keep this team in place, we have a tremendous way to go, our future has never ever looked brighter or sharper. the fact is the american dream is back. it's bigger and better and stronger than ever before. [cheers and applause] 2016 was not merely another four-year election. this was a defining moment in american history, ask them right there. [applause]
[crowd boos] [chanting] [chanting] >> by the way, that is a lot of fake news back there that's a lot. [cheers and applause] >> that's a lot. you know what i say? the amount of press we have
tonight reminds me of the academy awards before it went political and their ratings went down the tubes. this was our chance to reclaim our government from a permanent political class that enriched itself at your expense. as i said, on a wonderful, beautiful day at my inauguration, we did not merely transfer power from one party to another but we transferred power back to you, the proud citizens of the united states of america. [chanting u.s.a.]
[chanting u.s.a.] we stared down the unholy alliance of lobbyists and donors and special interests who made a living bleeding our country dry. that's what we have done. we broke down the doors of washington back rooms, where deals were cut to close our companies, give away your jobs, shut down our factories, and surrender your sovereignty and your very way of life, and we have ended it. [cheers and applause] we took on a political machine that tried to take away your voice and your vote, they tried to take away your dignity and your
destiny. but we will never let them do that. will we? >> no. >> many times i said we would drain the swamp and that's exactly what we're doing right now. we're draining the swamp. [cheers and applause] [chanting] >> and that's why the swamp is fighting back so viciously and violently. for the last two and a half years we have been under
siege. and with the mueller report, we won and now they want a do-over. they want a do-over. let's do it again. it didn't work out too well. let's do it again. they want a do-over. no president should ever have to go through this again. it is so bad for our great country, a hoax. a great hoax. our patriotic movement has been under assault from the very first day. we accomplished more than any other president has in the first two and a half years of a presidency. and under circumstances that no president has had to deal with before, because we did, in the middle of the great and illegal witch-hunt, things that nobody have been able to accomplish, not even
close. nobody's done what we have done in two and a half years. [cheers and applause] we went through the greatest witch-hunt in political history. the only collusion was committed by the democrats, the fake news media, and their operatives and the people who funded the phony dossier, crooked hillary clinton and the dnc. it was all an illegal attempt to overturn the results of the election, spy on our campaign, which is what they did, and subvert our democracy. remember, the insurance policy just in case hillary clinton lost. remember the insurance policy. [chanting]
[lock her up] >> they appointed 18 very angry democrats to try to take down our incredible movement. after two years, 1.4 million pages of documents, 500 search warrants, 500 witnesses, 2,800 subpoenas and 40 fbi agents working around the clock. what did they come up with? no collusion. and the fact that led our great attorney general to determine no obstruction. no collusion, no
obstruction. [cheers] >> and they spent $40 million on this witch-hunt. $40 million. [crowd boos] that's right. they spent $40 million probably a hell of a lot more than that. and think about it. nobody has been tougher on russia than donald trump. nobody. [cheers and applause] we call it the russian hoax. remember president obama's famous line caught on the open mike secretly telling the russian president to, quote: inform wladimir that
after my election i will have more flexibility. okay? remember that? remember that? a lot of people remember that. i remembered it. i saw it happen. i didn't like it. they don't bring it up. the fake news will never bring it up. [boos] >> and in september, just before the election, the fbi told president obama about possible russian interference and he did nothing because he thought that hillary clinton, crooked hillary was going to win. that's why he did nothing. he did nothing. i built up the military, imposed sanctions on russia. and provided alternative energy sources for all over europe that competed very, very strongly with russia. we are, by the way, the
number one producer of energy in the world because of what we have done right now. [cheers and applause] [chanting u.s.a.] >> the democrats don't care about russia. they only care about their own political power. they went after my family, my business, my finances, my employees, almost everyone that i have ever known or worked with, but they are really going after you. that's what it is all about. it's not about us. it's about you. they tried to erase your vote, erase your legacy of the greatest campaign and the greatest election probably in the history of
our country. and they wanted to deny you the future that you demanded and the future that america deserves and that now america is getting. [cheers and applause] our radical democrat opponents are driven by hatred, prejudice and rage. they want to destroy you and they want to destroy our country as we know it. not acceptable. it's not going to happen. [cheers and applause] it's not going to happen. so understand democrats, ruthless tactics, look no further than the united states supreme court and our court system nationwide. i will soon have appointed
my 145th judge. [cheers and applause] president obama was very nice to us. he didn't fill the positions. i get there the first day, how many judges i do have to appoint? they said, sir, 139. now it's 145. and we just finished number 107. already approved, sitting on the bench. how about that? [cheers and applause] by the time we are finished with the rest, we will have a record percentages. our percentage will be a record except for one person. one person has a higher
percentage than your favorite president, donald trump, do you know who that president is? he has a higher percentage than me and it's devastating. his name is george washington. [cheers and applause] george is 100 percent and there is no way i'm going to get there no matter what i tell you. got 100 percent. he was first so he just appointed them all and that was it. that's going to be a hard record to beat. they want to take away your judges. they want to pack the court with far left idealogue, and they want to radicalize our judiciary. you know that. we already have a lot of that. look at what they did to a great gentleman justice kavanaugh, highly respected.
[cheers and applause] they didn't just try to win. they tried to destroy him with false and malicious accusations. [crowd boos] >> and thank you marco and thank you lindsey, wherever you may be. thank you, great job. thank you. [cheers and applause] stand up. [cheers and applause] yeah, lindsey graham was doing okay in south carolina. isn't that great? now he is through the roof. great. thank you. great job. thank you. great people. great people.
all of them. they tried to ruin the family of now justice kavanaugh. they tried to ruin his career. they tried to ruin his life. they even wanted to impeach him on fraudulent charges. those charges were a fraud. he did nothing wrong. all in pursuit of political documentation and control just imagine what this angry left wing mob would do if they were in charge of this country: [boos] >> imagine if we had a democrat president and democrat congress in 2020.
2020. [boos] >> they would shut down your free speech, use the power of the law to punish their opponents, which they are trying to do now anyway. they will always be trying to shield themselves. they would strip americans of their constitutional rights while flooding the country with illegal immigrants in the hopes it will expand their political base and they will get votes some place down the future. that's what it is about. [boos] [chanting build that wall] [chanting build that wall] >> and we are building the wall. we will have over 400 miles
of wall built by the end of next year. it's moving rapidly. moving very rapidly. [cheers and applause] and you know we couldn't get the wall approved by the democrats. even though they voted for it four years ago and six years ago and didn't get built, but they voted for it. all of a sudden trump is president, we don't want a wall. can you imagine? can you imagine those caravans without having the barriers and walls that we have already put up and that are up? this country would be a mess like you wouldn't believe. so the wall is moving along. it's moving along rapidly. it's beautiful. i changed the design, it's stronger, bigger, better, and cheaper. [cheers and applause] cheaper. a lot cheaper. you know, sometimes when they don't give you the money, you have to make it
cheaper. [laughter] it's not going to happen. but it's going well. instead of bringing us together as one america. democrats want to splinter us into factions and tribes. they want us divided. not going to happen to the republicans anymore. it's not going to happen. [cheers and applause] this election is not merely a verdict on the amazing progress we have made. it's a verdict on the unamerican conduct of those who try to undermine our great democracy and undermine you. and by july 4th, washington, d.c., come on down, big day, bring your flags. bring those flags. bring those american flags. july 4th we're going to have hundreds of thousands of people. we're going to celebrate
america. sounds good, right? july 4th. [cheers and applause] celebrate america. this election is a verdict on whether we want to live in a country where the people who lose an election refuse to concede and spend the next two years trying to shred our constitution and rip your country apart. [boos] you remember during one of the debates when crooked hillary said if i win, are you going to support me? but i must be honest i didn't give her a great answer. that was -- that might have been my hardest question during the debates. isn't it amazing that it worked the other way around, right? isn't that amazing?
if you want to know how the system is rigged, just compare how they came after us for three years with everything they have versus the free pass they gave to hillary and her aides after they set up an illegal server, destroyed evidence, deleted and acid washed 33,000 emails, exposed classified information and turned the state department into a pay-for-play cash machine. [boos] [chanting lock her up] 33,000 emails deleted. think of it. i keep mentioning, you know, there was a lot of corruption on the other side. but, you know, the simplest
thing, they get a subpoena from the united states congress and they decide that they are not going to give it so lindsey graham, they delete and they acid wash, which is very expensive, nobody does it, they acid wash those emails. never to be seen again. but we may find them somewhere deep in the state department. [cheers and applause] but, can you imagine if i got a subpoena, think of this, if i got a subpoena for emails, if i deleted one email like a love note to melania,. [laughter] it's the electric chair for trump. [laughter] 33,000 emails. but let's see what happens.
we now have a great attorney general. let's see what happens. [cheers and applause] so if you want to shut down this rigged system once and for all, then show up november 3rd. that's your day, big day, and vote, vote, vote. we're going to have a big, big day. [cheers and applause] [chanting four more years] >> thank you. and remember the only thing these corrupt politicians will understand is an earthquake at the blo blot
ballot box. we did it once and now we will do it again and this time we're going to finish the job. [cheers and applause] and this time should be a lot easier because we have done so much with our military, with our vets, with the 2nd amendment, with our regulations, with the biggest tax cut in history, with getting rid of so many different problems, so many different things, including, by the way, the individual mandate on obamacare, one of the worst things anybody has ever had to live through. we got rid of the individual mandate. [cheers and applause] right? how many people are happy they no longer have to pay for the privilege of not paying for bad health insurance?
[cheers and applause] how many people are happy? bad healthcare. so every time you don't have to make out a check, in order not to have healthcare. think of that. this is the only country you pay for the very distinct privilege of not having to pay but you had to pay a lot. now you don't have to pay anymore. you don't want it? you don't have to take it. [cheers and applause] individual mandate, we got rid of it. that was a big deal. the people trying to stop our movement are the same washington insiders who spent their careers rigging the system so your losses will be their gains. you know that. these are the same career politicians who presided over decades of flat wages, the loss of our manufacturing jobs, 60,000 -- can you believe that?
60,000. who would believe that number? and do you know how i know it's true? because, if it wasn't, i have been using it a lot. the fake news would have headlines trump used a phony number. they would have headlines. it would be the biggest story. trump used -- well, they never corrected it so i assume, fellows, 60,000 shuttered factories, we closed up. 60,000 factories. it didn't seem right. it didn't seem like it would be possible. an avalanche of job-killing regulations, a growing wealth gap, and one ruinous trade deal after another. by the way those trade deals are getting very good, folks. you will see. [cheers] >> we just completed the deal with south korea. great deal. we are working with mexico and canada. we have to get the democrats to approve it. we want it to be bipartisan. as you know you may have read a couple of things
about china. i spoke to president xi, terrific president, a great leader of china, i spoke to him this morning at length. and we will see what happens what happens. we are going to have a deal or not have a deal at all. that's okay. too. because we are taking in billions and billions of dollars in to our treasury and companies are leaving china because they want to avoid paying these large tariffs. and, by the way. when the fake news tells you that you are paying in the case of china they devalued their currency, that helps them. and do you know what else they are doing? they are subsidizing those companies, and you are not paying very much if you are not paying anything at all, the case of china. and we are taking billions and billions of dollars in and, remember, this and you know it as well as i do, we have never taken in 10 cents from china.
we would lose $500 billion a year with china. we rebuilt china. they have done a great job, but they took us for suckers. and that includes obama and biden. they took us for suckers. [boos] >> 500 billion. 500 billion. somebody said you mean 500 million? that's a lot too, right? no, $500 billion. it's actually more than that i don't want to be too specific. 507. [laughter] we are fighting against the same far left politicians that ravaged our great cities and crushed the dreams of african-american middle class same people who threw open our borders and allowed drugs, gangs, and illegal labor to devastate our poorest american
communities. you know that. our political opponents look down with hatred on our values and with utter disdain for the people whose lives they want to run. that's the way they have been doing it. and if you take a look at the african-american community how much progress has been made, the lowest unemployment numbers in the history of our country. [cheers and applause] they called you and us. do you remember this? they called us deplorables. that was a mistake. that was a big mistake. i will never forget i was making a speech after hillary used the word deplorables. i didn't think it was that bad. she used another word. do you know what the other word was? she said deplorables and
irredeemables. i think that was worse. it didn't get picked up. you never know what's going to get picked up. it didn't. i think irredeemables is worse than deplorables. but i will never forget, i was making a speech the next day. we had a big crowd in a great, great state. and women, in particular, were wearing we are deplorables. the deplorables love you. and there were hundreds and hundreds of people wearing we are deplorables and i said i think hillary clinton made a big mistake with that speech. [cheers and applause] that is the problem with politics. one word and your career is ruined. you never know. you have to be very careful with the fake news back there. i have news for democrats
who want to return us to the bitter failures and betrails of the past, we are not going back. we are going on to victory. going on to victory they will all take it away as fast as it came and as mike pence said a little while ago that's why we want a little more time. it's going to be cemented. it's going to be cemented. you know, we have a big decision to make. do you know what i'm going to say have to come up with a new theme for the campaign. is it going to be make america great again, the greatest theme. make america great again, maga country, right? [cheers and applause] maga. maga. maga country. we're in maga country. that i can tell you.
but you know today, we had a massive day on the stock market. a lot of good things are happening. buff we had a very big day and we are very close to, i think our 68th record. you know, we have hit all-time records. it's tremendous. i think it's more than that but it's a lot. so now i say we have made america great again, but how do you give up the number one call it theme, logo, statement, in the history of politics for a new one? you know there is a new one that really works and that's called keep america great. right? keep america great. [cheers and applause] keep america great. in other words, make america great again well we have really done it. we have rebuilt our military, it's still in the process. we have taken care of our vets. we have cut the hell out of
regulations. i have cut more regulations than any president in the history of our country, regardless of the length of their term. [cheers and applause] so now i say we need -- we have a lot talent, campaign people they cost a fortune and they never give me any ideas. i'm kidding. i said what do we use as our theme, our statement, i'm going to ask you to vote on it. i'm going to go make america great again and keep america great. let me hear by your cheers what you like. so, in all fairness, make america great, the greatest of all time. i really believe that the greatest of all time. how do you give up the greatest of all time with a new statement? do you know what's going to happen? if i do it with a new theme. if i lose, people are going to say what mass stake that was. [laughter] but we're not going to lose so it's not going to matter. [cheers] >> we're not going to lose,
right? we're not going to lose. [cheers] are you ready? first we do make america great again and then we do keep america great. let me hear it. ready? make america great again. [cheers and applause] >> no not bad. not bad. if i would have said that three years ago it wouldn't be a contest, right? you ready? keep america great. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause]
[cheers and applause] [chanting u.s.a.] wow. i'm sorry, maga country, but that wasn't too close. i thought you had it won and then i heard this cheer, my eardrums will never be the same. keep america great. [cheers and applause] pretty good. we're going to keep on fighting for every man and woman and child all across this land.
with every ounce of hard and might and sweat and sow we are going to keep keep america great again and we will indeed keep america great. oh we will keep it so great. better than ever before. we're going to keep it better than ever before. and that is why tonight i stand before you to officially launch my campaign for a second term as president of the united states. [cheers and applause] thank you. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause]
[cheers and applause] i can promise you that i will never ever let you down. i won't. [cheers and applause] and i am profoundly thankful to my family. i have a great family. melania, don, ivanka, eric, tiffany, barron, lara, jared, robert, mary ann, elizabeth and my late brother fred jr. [cheers and applause] we're joined tonight by many
great patriots who fight right by our side. florida's terrific governor. [cheers and applause] thank you, ron. our first lady, casey desantis. what a job you are doing. thank you. thank you, ron and casey. thank you. what a job. and, again, your great lieutenant governor ohio hear is fantastic, right? jennette nunes. jennette. thank you, jennette. beautiful job. [cheers and applause] your florida cfo jimmy
petrones. [applause] some really brilliant tough, wonderful friends who have helped me so much senators lindsey graham of south carolina, marco rubio of florida, and rick scott of florida. [cheers and applause] these are great people. these are great people. they're tough, they're smart, and they love our country. thank you very much, rick, marco, lindsay, thank you. members of congress, warriors also, boy, they're up there, you want them protecting you, i'll tell ya. they don't stop. matt gates, ted gillhall and
michael quall. [ cheers and applause ] and also all of our friends and our supporters, you've been incredible. this has been a tremendous night. you've really been incredible. since the very first day i walked through the doors of the white house, i have never forgotten who sent me there. you did. you did. you did. [ cheers and applause ] you did. you all did. when i get behind my desk in the beautiful oval office, i think about only one thing: how the american people are going to win, win, win today. [ cheers and applause ]
i'm fighting for you, and i think you see that. not easy. but i love it. and the reason i love it is because there have been few presidents who have been able to do what we've been able to do for you. and it is a great, great feeling. thank you. i love it. [ cheers and applause ] together we're breaking the most sacred rule in washington politics. we are keeping our promises to the american people. [ cheers and applause ] because my only special interest is you. i don't have a special interest. i don't care. i don't care. and by the way -- by the way, a woman who has been so good, so
talented, so wonderful and we're sort of going to be losing her. i have a feeling she's going to be running for a certain gubernatorial position. don't worry about it, ron. it's not going to be in florida. it won't be in florida, i promise you, casey. she'd be tough, right? but a woman who's a special woman. and her father, by the way, he's out there fighting for us all the time. sarah huckabee sanders. [ cheers and applause ] >> president's reelection campaign officially under way as of tonight. we'll have coverage of that tomorrow with the next year and a half. but live coverage of the president's announcement continues tonight on sean hannity show. see you tomorrow.
and check out the modern ruhles podcast. >> third episode drops today. we're talking feminism. right now, our dear friend, katy tur. >> i'm here. you know i have a bernie sanders campaign manager and i'm going to talk to them about how they feel about the surge. she's peeling away the voters. >> i'm going to guess they're not that into it. >> we'll see. we'll see. they are, they're proposing bigger and broader and deeper plans compared to what the other democrats are doing on everything from the wealth tax to the climates. housing. is that the way they're going to make a difference. thank you very much. good afternoon. i'm katy tur. it's 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in the east and today, the dam is breaking on impeachment. at 2:30, joe biden will make his strongest statement yet on the trump ukraine controversy.
he'll tell reporters if the president doesn't comply with investigatio investigations, congress has no choice but to impeach. at 4:00 p.m., nancy pelosi is leading a mee meeting with her entire caucus. look for that in a couple of minutes, frankly, she'll sit down with with the atlantic's jeffrey bold berg and be asked about impeachment. has she changed her mind? she just told alex moe she'll make an announcement after she meets with her chairman, leadership and caucus. seven national security democrats are now supporting impeachment. in a "washington post" op-ed, they write they are not career politicians, they are veterans of the military and intelligence agencies and quote, these allegations are stunning, both in the national security threat they pose and the potential corruption they represent. and they matter because they are precisely the kind of vulnerable representatives that handed the democrats their majority. the exact kind of democrat nancy pelosi said she was try iing to
protect. right now, the number of house democrats calling for some form of impeachment stands at 167. and members of both chambers are making their frustration very clear. >> i believe, i truly believe the time to begin impeachment proceeding against this president has come. >> i think we've crossed a line where if congress does not take action, the president will receive a message that he can act with impunity. >> there's a growing clamber across the country to deal with this most reckless and lawless president. >> our big question today is how fast will that number rise? also on substance, what do democrats gain from an impeachment inquiry? joining us now, jake, ashley, they're both msnbc contributors. also with me, editor and chief and msnbc legal analyst, ben.
so, jake, we're getting more and more democratic representatives coming out for impeachment today. we were i think in the 150s this morning and now we've shot up. what does it look like over there on capitol hill? what are you hearing? >> it's no longer a question of if but when and how. thate reality at this point. the house is almost certainly going to move toward in some way, shape or form, an impeachment proceeding. now the question of will the judiciary handle this, a special committee, we don't know that. there are benefits and detractions to both, but it's very clear we're entering a much more serious phase here where impeachment is going to be center stage and almost nothing else. this afternoon, in about an hour, nancy pelosi is meeting with her chairman. shortly after, she'll meet with her leadership and democratic caucus at 4:00 p.m. then make this statement where she'll lay out her plan. now it's important to keep in mipd, congress is in session
this week but out the next two weeks, so this week will be frantic. there will be a lot of action. a vote to rebuke the president tomorrow on the house floor is likely. but after that, the it will likely quiet down for two weeks. so again, impeachment is looking like a near certainty at this point. how it will play out, we don't yet know. >> how is she being affected by someone like jon lewis coming out and standing in the house and calling for impeachment? what about ha chemojeffrey, a member of leadership now saying he supports impeachment? >> now these people i don't think would ever go toward impeachment without nancy pelosi's explit is or implicit permission. these are close pelosi allies and we've seen that over the last 24 to 36 hours. we've seen people like debbie dingle, rosa delora, two democratic congresswomen close to the speaker, voice their support for impeachment. so what we saw in the last 24 hours is really that. her allies come out publicly and say they are for impeachment and
we saw these vulnerable democrats who took seats from republicans in the 2018 midterms. these were the people nancy pelosi said she was protecting from an impeachment vote. she might have not said that directly. they came out in favor of the impeachment process, so really the walls are caving in here and we're getting to a point where anything short of impeachment, any half measure because the house had been operating with half measures for a while now, anything short of impeachment would not be enough for the 167. that's a way above the majority of democrats impeach. >> ashley, i want to figure out the facts on the story. we haven't seen the transcript of the call the whistleblower was concerned about, but we saw rudy giuliani on sean hannity last night explaining his involvement in this controversy. here he is. >> did our state department ask you to go on a mission for them? >> they did.
>> and you went. >> the state department called me and said would i take a call from mr. yearmack, number two or three to the president. now the president. i was put together with him. i talked to him. he gave me enormously important facts. i conveyed them state department. fake news. i wasn't operating on my own. >> so we asked the state department about that and they said ambassador volcker has confirmed that as presidential adviser's request, he put volcker in contact with mr. giuliani. they say giuliani is a private citizen, acts in his own personal capacity as lawyer for president trump. he does not speak on behalf of the u.s. government. what do we know right now? i mean it would seem to me from an outsider perspective that it would be a bigger deal if it is true that the state department requested giuliani to make these
inquiries. >> right now, we know both a lot and a little. they're shifting stories. so we do know what the president has said. in some ways, the president has given us a good window of not what the whistleblower complaint will say, but into potentially what the transcript will say. which is that the president has said that yes, he pressured ukraine or asked them to look into joe biden. so he seems to confirm that, which has been confirmed by newspapers, then he's offered for instance shifting explanations. he said at one point, he did it because of corruption. he didn't want to give aid to a country if the country was still rampant with corruption. then just in a different moment, he said reason he withheld the aid was in fact because he wanted to make sure that europeans were paying their part. so there's sort of mixed messaging but at the core is the
fact this is something that was a directive from the president to try to hold up the aid for ukraine rather and simultaneously get the country to look into corruption he alleges by one of his political rivals. >> and this phone call between the president and the president of ukraine happened a day after mueller's testimony? >> yes. it did. and that's another thing that timing of course is striking. you see his critics and some of this seem to be and jake knows this better, but the sense we're getting from democrats on capitol hill, which is this is a president who feels invincible and feels uncheck and he faced no ramifications in their view for the russia investigation and for mueller's report and so there's a sense that he's going to continue to act this way. to break norms. some people would allege break laws, none of that has been determined, but unless someone stands up and stops him and so you sort of get that sense from
democrats that it's no longer about if this is good politics and what does it mean for 2020, but some view this as this is sort of a moral stance they need to take to prevent a presidency from running amuck in their view. >> nancy pelosi will make a statement at 5:00 p.m. her staff confirming. if they officially open an impeachment inquiry or use the power of inherent contempt. how does that change their ability to get information, documentation or call witnesses before various committees? >> it doesn't change it that much. in the sense that you know, congress can issue subpoenas now. it can call witnesses now and the executive branch can defy them. there is some you know, additional ability if you decide to use the inherent contempt power to try to do something quickly. but by and large, congress' powers are what they are.
and we're in, we're watching a sort of protracted fight over the parameters of those as they try to investigate the president and that does not change if you call it an impeach. inquiry. what does change if you call it an impeachment inquiry is what you're talking about. so you know, up until now, when the judiciary committee holds these hearings, they claim they're doing oversight, they're not talking about what they would put in an impeachment article. they're not talking about voting to remove the president. once you call it an impeachment inquiry, then you are talk iing about what you are going to impeach the president for. and whether you have the votes and who will support x allegation or y allegation. so the context of the, the sub tans of the con vversation chans a great deal. i don't think the, the particular powers that are available to them change all
that much. though they may try to use the inherent contempt power more aggressively than they have so far. >> and jake, just really quick ly. i keep talking to republicans and democrats and they keep saying to me that it does really seem like the president could shoot someone on 5th avenue. that's now invincible he feels and that's how strong his support is. are you hearing anything differently from republican lawmakers on the hill? is there any chance that there might be a break away amongst any of them over this current behavior? >> well, very quickly two points. house republicans are lining up in lock step behind him and saying the president was try in to root out corruption. what's wrong with that? that's what they believe. again, as ashley said, we don't know the details. two, the president would be right in feeling that theoretically because the congress has not punished anybody in the trump administration for what democrats themselves have termed to cover up. so democrats have accused the
democrats of a cover up and have not done anything on the other end. it gives trump an inflated sense that he can get away with things. maybe it's not inflated. maybe that's the reality, but this i believe seems to be entering a few phase over the next couple of months and we'll get more serious whether it impacts trump or not, we dent know, but we'll find out. >> everyone, thank you very much and joining me, california democratic congressman, he's one of the seven freshmen democrats behind the "washington post" op-ed. thank you for joining us. imt to dive right into it. the word on capitol hill before now was always that nancy pelosi was trying to protect democratic lawmakers just like yourself. ones that term turned the house blue from red districts. the marichcginal democratic fro line lawmakers as they call you. why did you feel that now was the time to come out with this op-ed and are you worried about
blowback from your constituents? >> thanks for having me, katy. i took an oath to support and defend the constitution for the first time out of high school. i took it again nine months ago, becoming a member of congress. we're in a different situation now. this is dealing with national security. you know the president has allegedly been accused of withholing funding from an ally in order to, an ally that we support and that we, congress, that allocated funds for, against an adversary, russia, that hurts our national security and for the president to do this for his own personal game so this he could gain both personally and politically to try and get information from a foreign government against a potential presidential candidate, that's wrong and not the way he should be doing his office of the presidency.
>> is it -- >> it was time for us to speak up and really go out there and say we need to get to the bottom of this. the american people need to know the truth of what happened happened why he withheld these funds. >> is it just this one issue? this one phone call or is this phone call the straw that broke the camel's back? is it a bunch of things that have led up to this moment? >> for myself, it really is this h issue of national security of the president using his office of really trying to benefit personally and politically. to withhold this funding which now we're hearing it's upwards of 400 milli$400 million. we have one week left in the fiscal year in order to get them that and it may not be enough time to do that. for him to keep that money and not give it to our ally who is in war and still engaged in battle with an adversary, our
russian adversaries, is a threat to our national security. and it's just another benefit he's giving to putin and russia. >> the president just tweeted, i'm currently at the united nations representing our country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with the president of ukraine. will you trust that transcript? sorry, the president goes on. he says you will see it was a friendly and totally appropriate call. no pressure and unlike joe biden and his son, no quid pro quo. this is nothing more than a continuation of the greatest witch hunt. will you trust that transcript? >> i don't know how many conversations he may have had with the ukrainian president. this may have been one of many. the american people deserve to know the truth and we need to get thom bottom of this. >> sounds like a no. >> it needs to be more than just releasing these transcripts. we need the information for the
whistleblower. what is the whistleblower talking about? congress has a right and it's law u that congress needs to know this information and he needs to turn that over. the main point is we need to get to the bottom of this. we need to find the truth. the american people deserve to know the truth this president is putting our national security in jeopardy for his own personal gain and that's what we need to find out and that's what congress needs to do and why we need to take action on this. >> did you speak to nancy pelosi before you came out with this? >> i came out with the decision to make this decision on my own. >> did anybody on the byline speak to nancy pelosi bf they did this? >> we all kind of worked together on h op-ed and before we released it, we came up, informed the speaker of what we were doing. >> sorry, don't mean to interrupt, but nancy pelosi is talking. we appreciate your time. >> must repair and we must heal
and for me -- it is about the rs. i always believe that the arts would bring us together. when we can come together, listen, be inspired, laugh, cry. just enjoy and put our differences aside. that's a very positive thing. and when we hear the battle hymn of the republic, it arouses such emotion in all of us that we are united so i thank atlantic for what used to be called the atlantic monthly when i was in high school so i call it the atlantic monthly. the atlantic for recognizing roles of music and arts play in our lives and i do believe that that is a path that can unify us. one way. the you asked about what? the -- let me just say that last tuesday, last tuesday, september
17th, was institution day. was the anniversary of that day when benjamin franklin came out of independence hall and people said dr. franklin, what do we have? a monarchy or republic. he said republic if we can keep it. a republic if we can keep it. on that very day last week, that tuesday, erupted this iraqable set of facts on institution day. and it was about the ige inspector general. at the office of the director of national intelligence saying that there was a whistleblower complaint. then we learned it was going to be blocked from being presented and that the dni was not going to allow it to come forward. let me say this. i am more experience in intelligence than anybody had, at least 25 years.
i was a member of the committee. i was the top democrat. i was the adam schiff. the majority. ranking member. but that made me a member of the gang of four years ago then exit this show as leader and as speaker. so i have been there for the writing of the laws whistle blowers and further protections for them along the way. i was there for part of writing the bill to establish the aus of national intelligence. that's only since 2004. we didn't have it since then. and that office has its own inspector general. this inspector general is appointed by president bush, president trump, important difference. his own appointee. they're greatly respected for their independence, objectivity and rest. and by law, when a complaint comes from a whistleblower, the inspector general has 14 days to
investigate then the drirector f national intelligence has seven days to report it to the intelligence committees of the commerce. that is the law. it says shell. it doesn't say nay, should. it says shall. that's a very fraught with mean ing word in legislation. but this administration is block ing the dni from conveying that to the intelligence committees. the dni is at the present time, breaking the law. at the direction of the administration. it's really unfortunate. so to the substance of the, we don't know. -- >> well we sort of do. the president has in so many words said that he's raised these questions with the ukrainians. and admitted he intervened on
the quote unquote biden issue. >> if that is the case that the president of the united states would ask a foreign government to assist him in a political way, that would be wrong. >> would it be impeachable? >> let me just say that everything we've been doing up until now is about preserving that republic. that benjamin franklin said republic if we can keep it. and he, that means it's not a monarchy, a system of checks and balances in our constitution. a check on each other. and that, that is our republic. is a dhoksy. it's not a monarchy. the president has said article ii says i can do whatever i want. that is in violation of the
spirit of the institution. now our founders wanted to provide for shall we say some activities that they might not engage in and they put up guardrails but could never suspect that the president of the united states would jump over those. >> i want to widen out the anture and talk about the whole of this presidency, but let me just stay on this for a minute. if what we're describing is accurate and if it's not impeachable, if you're not willing to say it is, what is impeopleable to you? >> i'll be making an announcement at 5:00 today. not here, not now. >> you're more than welcome right now. [ cheers and applause ] >> it's really sad to think that our president wouldn't -- perform an impeachable offense.
it's hard. it's hard to say we've gotten to that place. but the, what would be impeachable offense would be that which is proven in an investigation. >> right. >> the calling for convening a select committee on an impeachment is a process. the beginning of a discovery process, not the end, so you don't have to have enough proof to convict at the outset of the process. and my question i guess is -- >> you said is it impeachable offense and that isn't a verdict. >> given what we know and give p what the president has said, the analogy here is crude, but we seem to be in a situation at the moment in which richard nixon after the watergate break in, said something akin to yeah, i broke into the watergate. i needed to see what the dnc knew. donald trump says out loud what most people say to themselves.
i mean -- and so i'm not going to belabor this forever. >> i think you are. >> no. >> let me just say, in terms of the nixon analogy. the president is making lawlessness a virtue. in our country. and that call, he sort of is trying to export so understand that. so we have several concerns about the president in terms of our differences in policy and i'd love to tell you about all the legislation we have passed we are hope iing the senate wil take up. starting with gun violence. we have a big, wear black tomorrow, gun violence activities on capitol hill and beyond. and around the country. so we have some differences in terms of policy. you might want to know the president called me this morning about gun violence and said that
we were getting close to a solution. >> open parenthetical. what is that call like on a day like today? >> somebody said to me last night, they said give us a surreal moment with about the president. conversations with him. i said it's more like it's always surreal. >> was this a relatively normal call? >> yeah, well, he called to talk about gun violence then segwayed into other things. >> can you give us an indication of what those other things are? >> not right now. but i was concerned just in terms of being global, that the president said i have to get off the phone now because i'm going to go speak at the united nations. it's great. everything's great here. it's great. so i didn't have a chance to listen to his speech. i was too busy so that i could have time to come here, but he said that he called upon the
countries to reject globalism and embrace nationalism. really? really? so again, we have some serious policy differences and in terms of multilateralism and who we are as a country. when i was a girl, young girl, i was a student and went to president kennedy's inauguration. it was freezing cold. much smaller on the east side of the capitol. not the west side. i was a student at the time. and everybody in the world and all of you are too youmg, but read it in the history books, knows that kennedy said to the citizens of america, ask not for what america can do for you, but what you can do for your country. the very next sentence in the speech is what struck me. student of political science and international relations.
the very next sentence he said to the sentences of the world ask not what america can do for you, but what we can do working together for the freedom of mankind. freedom. freedom. but the part this really stuck with me was the working together. no con desession. that multilateralism has been a source of our strength so when i see him embracing nationalism, when i see him questioning our involvement in article five of nato and the rest and i see his actions with afghanistan, we went in multilaterally, but he's coming out unilaterally. then you see why there's pause for questioning among our allies.
they're -- >> beforehand, she said she wants the cello, so this is a victory. but there is according to what quoo we're getting on the screen, a breaking tweet from the president who says that tomorrow they will release a transcript of the call. so if you see that transcript and it is more benign than we've been led b to believe, will you, do you think your caucus might stand down or do you think that the caucus is at a boil? >> no, it's not about that. this is about the institution of the united states and we have many other shall we say candidates from itch peachable offense. but this one is the most understandable by the b public. it's really important to know this. there is no requirement there be a quid pro quo in the conversation. that the president brings up and
wants them to investigation something, that's of his political opponent. that is self-evident that it is not right. don't ask foreign governments to help us in our election. that's what we tried to stop in our election. t wrong. so it's not only about how to make decisions about our foreign policy and global security, it's about undermining the integrity of our election. a, b. i don't know, i don't think there's a grasp on the part of this information that the quid pro quo is not essential to an impeachable offense, but if you have sequence like a couple of days before the president withdrew the bipartisan support for ukraine. bipartisan enthusiastic support for ukraine.
a few days earlier, he withdraws it then makes a statement. president's words weigh tons. weigh tons. and just bringing up the election is bad enough. that there would be a quid pro quo isn't necessarily in the conversation. but in the sequencing. this is not a good thing for a democracy. for the leader of the free world to be talking like that. and i don't know if there are any schools 1r068d. that's why they think lawlessness is a virtue and now they want to export it to another country. >> if i may, it sounds as if you believe this is a very, very serious offense. >> now, let's just put it this way. i ak cemented this invitation a while back. >> just noting as an observer of this conversation. >> i come every year.
>> more or less. >> when i'm invited. because since i was in high school, i read the atlantic monthly. and they taught us if you want to know how to write, you have to read good writing. let's hear it for the atlantic. >> you're incredibly manipulative. >> some people say that. so, so -- so therefore, what would you be asking me if it were today? let's go back when we were happily observing the anniversary of our constitution last tuesday morning. >> yes, but the issue is that i live in the time space continuum and we are, we are here on a crucial day in all seriousness in american history. we could lift up beyond this the question of impeachment if you want by talking about lawlessness for a moment and we were talking about this a little
bit backstage. do you think the president understands right from wrong? no, it's a very serious question. do you think he has the capacity to understand that he might? this phone call happened as we think, just using the phone call as an example, it happened the day after mueller testified. there's some object lessons in the whole mueller case for a president about talking to foreign powers about intervention and elections. do you think that and you probably have a dozen or two dozen other examples where not sure if the president's moral compass is true north. do you think based on your now significant two and a half year plus exposure to him that he understands right from wrong in the way that -- >> two years and nine months. it's 13 and a half months until you know. let me say that the president is
responsible for his actions. whether he has any scruples or understands right from wrong. certainly has made some decisions that we call that into question. here we are. our found eers wanted to proteca republic that did not want a monarchy and again, they established a constitution that would prevent that from happening. guardrails. they didn't suspect that everyone would be exemplary so they had carvings and they could not have expected people would leave nor when they were write ing the bills on the director of national intelligence responsibility shell do we ever think that the director of national intelligence would break the law?
would break the law? so it is a -- legal or not legal. and in some cases, right from wrong. i think we should start our healing process. because it's going to take a while. let's be thinking in a positive way as we go forward. 13 and a half months, now it's like a third. 13 and a third months, because it's going to take some positive repair. in addition to national healing for us to get to a place and it's absolutely, absolutely essential that the president be held accountable. no one is above the law and separate from the issues, concerns we're talking about here, that on the policy that we have a clear discussion about whose vision for america is the one we want to go down and that's absolutely essential he
not be re-elected president of the united states. you are folked like a laser on this 13 and a half month. you're focused on that. you are a very smart political player and very adept at strategy and tactics. the question is do you understand putting issues of institutionalty and law breaking aside, do you see peril in going down the path that now two-thirds of your caucus wants to go down? is that what we're talking about? a political calculation that impeachment will turn, impeachment process will turn president trump into a mart ir and activate his base even more? >> nancy pelosi didn't say
directly she will be calling for the impeachment process, the inquiry into president trump, she said a lot. she said it's not necessarily about this particular transcript that the president said, which the president said he will release. she said it's a body of anchors that they have been considering and that the president needs to understand on this transcript it's not just about a quid pro quo. we're also getting news from adam schiff from the whistleblower has asked to appear before his committee, the intelligence committee. he's just needing to or the whistleblower needs to go to the acting dni to fig figure out how to do so. we are going to watch for that. in the meantime, gill, dragt lawmaker from california is still with us. one of f the cosigners of f that "washington post" op sed calling for the president's impeachment. >> i think she's right.
the president is making lawlessness a virtue. she's also right in that this is really coming down to protecting our elections. all our agencies confirmed that russia meddled in our 2016 presidential election and now we have the president using his office in order to entice a foreign government to investigate one of his political opponents in the 2020 presidential election. we can't allow that to happen. we cannot take this anymore from the president. and i hope this whistleblower, i hope the dni allows this whistleblower to come forward and testify in front of the intelligence committee. it's not just about one act. him releasing one transcript from one conversation is not going to solve this issue and make it go away. the american people deserve to know the truth that's what we need to do. we need to find the truth of what the president was doing.
>> it certainly sounds like she's going to be calling for an inquiry. said it's not about the quid pro q quo. is that what she's saying now? >> i'm not going to predict what the speaker is going to do. i'm going to go to the meeting at 4:00 and hear what she has to say and speak up for what i believe in and what needs to be done, but i will not guess or try to predict what the speaker is going to ask. say. >> are you concerned it's having with none of your republican colleagues? >> it would be nice if the republican colleagues would kind of join us. hopefully they would see this as well. this as a threat the to our national security. hopefully we'll keep urging and simply speaking with them and hopefully they will see the light of day on this issue. but we're going to do what we need to do to find out the truth. thank you very much for joining us and for sticking around. we appreciate it. joining me now is kristen
welker, white house correspondent for nbc news. you are here because the united nations is in session. seems like the president's mind isn't on the united nations right now. >> it's not. it was remarkable to see that tweet. he had been signalling he was leaning toward releasing the transcript of his call with the president of ukraineful now he's made that official. we're trying to figure out how that's going to take place, but i think you hit the nail on the head at the top which is that nancy pelosi was just asked is this enough, is this going to be enough to essentially quell some democrats who are calling for impeachment and you heard her say no. the bottom line is they want to see the complaint. they are saying that look, the transcript is one thing. but by all accounts, this complaint goes far beyond just this phone call. so they want to know what is specifically in this complaint. adam shift wants to hear from the whistleblower. >> says he'll go in front of the committee. i'm saying he as a crutch.
the whistle blow e, the person, i don't know if it's a he, is is requesting guidance from the acting dni and schiff says they could get the testimony as soon as this week. >> and that is also remarkable because there's been so much discussion about this. >> will the white house try to block that? >> the white house has tried to block frankly a whole range of people from testifying on capitol hill. they're blocking the complaint from being turned over to congress, so presumably, they would try to block the whistleblower before going to congress as well. they have taken a con fron tagal stance as it relates to these investigations and it's almost pushing house democrats in the direction of impeachment because privately, white house officials say the only way we're turning over these documents is if in fact there's an impeachment inquiry. >> the conventional wisdom is that the president wants this fight. is that true? >> i think, i think he probably has mixed feelings about it. on the one hand, i think politically speaking, he has people who are surrounding him saying things like if you're
impeach ed, then you're going t be re-elected. but i think he doesn't want his name linked to the i word. and so i think -- >> he's a man complaining about not getting a noble prize at the u.n. >> so yes, there's a potential political benefit here, but he's concern ed about what it would mean for him in the husry books. and as you know, donald trump is someone who cares about this. >> will they use all their power to not allow democrats to get a hold of what they need? will they continue to tell aides, will they continue to tell private citizens not to testify in front of congress? are they prepared to that i can this fight to court? >> by all accounts, that's exactly what's going to happen. you have adam schiff, chuck schumer, other democratic leaders essentially saying we are willing to subpoena these documents. these witnesses, because we need them in order to get a full picture and so they're prepared to go to court. there's fo independeno indicati
white house is backing down, but everything changes if there's an inquiry. >> when it comes to contempt or any other issue that might go to the ag, do they believe that ag barr will be on their side no matter what? does the president have in ag barr what he did not in sessions and what he said he wanted, which was a protector? >> well we have seen instances in which this attorney general seems to be protecting the president and this is a case in point. because he's effectively made the decision to protect. the complaint. will that continue though? i'm not sure because there are going to be tests every day as it relates to this i think. democrats kobt to push for more information despite the fact they're going to get the transcript tomorrow. so it will be a real question to see whether the attorney general continues down that path. >> i wonder if in ten years, we'll back and say did this really happen? did we really live through this? >> and how did we all survive given how little sleep we get.
>> thank you. and joining me now is democratic presidential candidate tom steyer who made impeaching president trump his number one issue. tom, it's wonderful to see you. do you think nancy pelosi, do you think that the writing is on wall for her? that she'll announce an inquiry tonight? >> well, i don't know for sure, but we can see in fact is the rush of democratic congress people to come out publicly for impeachment over the last week. i mean it has gone up by over 25 people today. so we can see in fact that this new revelation about the ukraine has really changed the tenor of this whole conversation and in fact, the democratic members of the house are you barrelling towards impeachment and how the speaker reacts is up to her but i listen to her, too, and i was reading the tea leaves. sounds like she's going that way. >> you're smiling. >> well listen, as you know,
katy, i started the need to impeach movement two years ago on the thesis that this is the most corrupt president in american history and we knew it two years ago. more than 8 million people signed that petition asking congress to hold this president to account. so to me, this is actually the grass roots of the united states, the people of the united states, getting a win, which is their voice being heard and it will have public televised hearings so that we all can hear what's been going on so we all can judge this administration and this president's behavior so yes, when i see the people of the united states win and when i see the country stand up for what's right, yeah, i get a big smile on my face. that's what i live for. >> do you think it helps your campaign? >> i don't know. look, my thesis of my campaign is that this government has failed. the corporations have bought the government and we need to take
it back for the people. that we need to get back to the government of by and for the people and if we do that, we're going to get all policies that americans in both parties want. so when i see a grass roots win, when i see the people of the united states come together and push for what's right and have the people inside washington, d.c. listen to them, you know i think that's a win for the people of the united states. that's really what i root for and yeah, i do have a big smile on my face today. >> when you're out on the road and you're talking to democratic vote ers, are they all democrat voters? are you taking to vind voters? do you hear from republican voters out there who have voted for trump in the past but are now a little tired of it? and curious about you? what have you heard from them on impeachment? >> our research over the last two years says the same thing whether people supported mr. trump, opposed mr. trump or which party they're in. they always say the same things when presented with the
evidence. i didn't know that. he's a liar and a cheat. if i did that, i'd go to jail. so in fact, i put my trust in the american people. in the wisdom and compassion and courage of the american people. put together, we're the smartest one person in the world and that's why i work at the grass roots. that's why i push for the government of, by and for the people and that's why i said televised hearings. let the american people see what's been going on then all of the lawmakers in washington, d.c. will respond to us. >> do you think the transcript is enough? just the transcript that the white house says they will release? >> no, look. that's why we have hearings. i was absolutely committed to the impeachment and removal of this lawless president long before i heard of his relationship with the ukraine.
speaker pelosi was talking about need for something that's been proven by an investigation and that's what an impeachment hearing is, but goodness gracious, bob mueller did an investigation and proved this president obstructed justice. michael cohen is going to jail for something he did at the behest of mr. trump. we've had investigations. this is not first one. >> i don't want to interrupt, but i have a little bit of news from nbc news. we can report now that later today, house speaker nancy pelosi will announce a formal impeachment inqueuery according to two democratic sources close to her. it's not clear right now about any decisions being made on a select committee. but she again will endorse the idea publicly of an impeachment inquiry into the president of the united states. that is a mo mentous move. she said she would not support it unless she believed it was a
bipartisan affair and so far, this does not look like a bipartisan affair. are you concerned about what it might mean for 2020 politics or do you believe this is more important than that? >> katy, i think in the big questions in life and in this question in particular, what's important to do is try and do the right thing. none of us can predict the future. it's uncertain. the only thing we can do when faced the biggest questions like whether a president of the united states is a criminal who for the good of the country needs to be removed from office, we should look at ourselves and ask ourselves what is the right thing to do and do that. my experience in life, i've said this before. my father prosecuted the nazis at nuremberg. when you see something really wrong, you've got to fight it every day. that's what the speaker's doipg. i don't think it's a question of knowing the future or how that's going to turn out. what we can know is we're doing the right thing as hard as we can on behalf of american
people. >> sorry to step on that last part. thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> joining me now from delaware where we're expegting to hear from joe biden soon is mike memoli. mike, the guidance that the biden campaign was putting out earlier had him walking up to the line of impeachment. but not crossing it. will that calculus change now that the reporting is out that nancy pelosi will open an impeachment inquiry? >> it's always been interesting how the former vice president approaches this question of impeachment. on saturday, a number of us asked him if simply the reporting that was out at the time represented enough in his mind to bring him to that step, say he would also call for impeachment. what he said then was that the house should be able to continue to investigate it and base ed o what they were able to find, they may have to go ahead with impeachment, but said i'm not
make iing that judgment now. these developments are happening so quickly now u that even the guidance that biden advisers were giving us a few hours ago took him up to the line saying it may be inevitable if the white house was not cooperating with the house investigation. ht just on ukraine but array of investigations they are conducting in the judiciary committee. i think at this point he may join pelosi in that call. he looks at this, similar to how pelosi looks at it. tom steyer was quick to call for impeachment. sin i can could say they were doing that to appeal to leftwing of the party, to the democratic base. biden always wants to approach from the view of somebody that may be leading the democratic ticket, doesn't want vulnerable members in swing districts in a position of disagreeing with the standard bearer of the party on that. i think we're seeing a ground swell, seeing the speaker perhaps herself join that ground swell. it makes it easier for the former vice president to join as well.
>> what would it mean for the vice president to join, what would it mean for the moderate wing of the democratic presidential field? >> reporter: i think what you're seeing here is the fact that he knows members, the front line members, 40 members that won in republican districts in the house last cycle in 2018, a lot of them joe biden kpacampaignedr in midterms, we're in a political position, something now the former vice president can do. katie, the conversation is more complicated by the fact it is now very much personal involving the former vice president himself. consider the fact that if we get to the point where articles of impeachment are drafted, democrats may either explicit or or implicitly include the vice president in the remarks. the fact that the president of the united states may have been using the powers of his office to try to hurt a political opponent in the vice president, i think that also complicates the way the vice president approaches him. he doesn't want members in position of having to defend
him. this is larger for the vice president. this is about what he has consistently called abuse of power. in the past he was reluctant to call for impeachment in part because he knows he has a different role to play as a candidate for office himself. his view of impeachment is electing joe biden as president. but i think we often hear signals of where the vice president is thinking when he speaks at fund-raisers, which the press is often invited to, every event. a few days ago, last night in philadelphia, he said listen, i'm not going to take a punch, not deliver a punch back. that's what we may hear when he speaks in the next 10, 15 minutes. >> thank you very much. we will be watching for that. joining me, campaign manager for bernie sanders. it has been a packed day, full of important people. you are one of them, sir. bernie sanders says he called for impeachment three months ago. what is the campaign's reaction today? >> most corrupt president in our modern lifetime, showing again another instance how he corrupts
our government. i think it leads us to more serious conversations about impeachment inquiry. i urge fellow democrats to think about what articles of impeachment should say, write it in language so you can more effectively sell it to the american public, so people understand what the case is and quite frankly as you build that case against donald trump, all cards should be on the table. you're looking at a president engaged in a massive self dealing, used the presidency to enrich himself, in violation of the emoluments clause. should that be on the table? i think so. as you make this case, know you're trying to move the public and i think he can effectively do so. >> are you using this on the campaign trail? the 2020 democrats beyond tom steyer haven't been talking too much about impeachment. there were calls for it as news has arisen, but day to day they talk about policy. do you expect to be talking about this more or less going forward? >> i think that you have to be able to chew gum and walk at the
same time, senator sanders believes if we shifted the focus on impeachment, didn't make the case on donald trump how he betrayed the working class of the country, we will not effectively be doing our job defeating him. you have to make that argument convincingly. that he sold a pack of lies to the working class, that he would stand up to corporate special interests. that is, in fact, what he sold his whole campaign on, that he would drain the swamp, couldn't be bought by special interest. if you can't make that argument effectively and all we do is focus on impeachment, yeah. i think we're going to end up regretting it. >> the president has tweeted about this. he says the democrats are so focused on hurting the republican party and the president that they're unable to get anything done because of it, including legislation on gun safety, lowering of prescription drug prices, infrastructure, et cetera. i don't read that to willy-nilly read whatever the president is tweeting. i don't think there's news value in every one of his tweets. >> katie, that's the arsonist
laughing at the fire there. he is standing in the way of all of this, he is like ha ha, look, you can't get it done. if you wanted to get that stuff done, he can point the finger at himself. >> it is an insight into how he is going to play this, what he is going to say to voters. >> he is a master of distraction. at any moment saying look over there, don't look at me and my lies and look at the argument how i mislead the american public, how i have not faithfully executed office of president, the oath he took. yeah, he is the master of distraction for sure. >> seems to be one issue the democrats are completely united on, almost at least, almost all democrats. we'll see what joe biden has to say coming up. faiz, i want you to come back, talk about the wealth tax and what it means for the campaign. come back on a day we're not swamped with impeachment news. we appreciate it. >> thank you, katie. appreciate it. joining me, heidi press bell
a. what reporting do you have. >> reporter: we have two sources close to the speaker, later today after the all caucus meeting she will announce a normal impeachment inquiry of president trump. now, we do not know whether this will take the form of what is called a select committee where the speaker would hand pick various committee members who would draw up a report that would then be preferrrooefrd re judiciary committee. that's something she wants to leave up to the discussion of caucus members. it appears according to reporting she believes in her conversations with members that her conference, her caucus is ready now to take this next formal step. so at a minimum, what will this do? it will allow the committees to have expedited legal proceedings, to obtain documents potentially more easy. what we know is that we have this issue here of the ukraine
pressure campaign, katie, that broke the damn, but there are multiple inquiries under way on capitol hill that the speaker and committee chairs want to see to fruition. so there will be robust debate now how exactly to materialize this going forward, but this just into nbc news that the speaker does intend to take that next step towards a formal impeachment inquiry. >> the speaker said previously she was not going to pursue impeachment unless it was a bipartisan affair. she left herself some wiggle room on that, but this clearly looks like it will not be bipartisan. haven't heard from a single republican supporting this idea. justin amash switched parties to support the idea, is no longer a republican. how does she feel about this potentially being an investigation and then a vote maybe down the line, strictly on party lines, only to go off and die in the senate. >> this is where it is important for the public to understand the
difference between an impeachment inquiry and actual articles of impeachment. just because the speaker is announcing that they're opening a formal probe does not say anything or predestine what articles would be or information that would come out in the doris of the investigation. these committees have been stymied in a very extraordinary way in terms of getting witnesses and documents. we have the president's tax returns which are still pending reviewed by congress, there's a lot of information that could still come to light. and i would imagine that the speaker is expecting that that could have impact on republicans as well. >> thank you very much. thank you for bringing us your reporting. kristin welker is still here. kristin, just to repeat, nancy pelosi will make an announcement at 5:00 p.m., meeting with
democratic leaders and democratic caucus at 4:00 p.m. nbc news is reporting as heidi said she will open an impeachment inquiry. what is the white house saying? >> white house just responded, we had a fiery tweet from president trump. i got this tweet. the democrats continue to weaponize politics when they should be working on behalf of constituents which is nothing new. president trump is working hard on behalf of our country here in new york city while they continue to scream the word impeachment. nothing new here. >> is this a good or bad day for the president politically speaking? >> remains to be seen. some believe this will guarantee his re-election. the president himself is more torn. he will now have the i word attached to him. i think that's not something that he wants. i think it will make it very difficult to legislate. i think that it is mixed. but it is a remarkable turn of events, look how we got here.
0 which to the ends justify the means. to jeanne's witnesses starts december 13th on g.w. . this is news a live from berlin the european commission's incoming president wins parliament's approval for a new team and promises to make the e.u. a green superpower. or is no fun to lend has said and i'm vicious cold cuts in kabul and creating jobs but can the block's 1st female president get all member states on board also on the program. german chancellor angela merkel says europe
cannot defend itself without nato and pledges to shoulder a much bigger share of the costs by the early 21st things. i'm told me all at equal welcome to the program the european union's income and commission president has won the parliament's approval for a new team owners of the fund the land is the 1st woman to land the e.u.'s top job and she set out ambitious goals to turn the bloc into a green superpower and boost economic growth as well as those challenges she also have to deal with deep divisions among e.u. member states. resulting approval from the e.u. parliament confirming the new team of incoming commission president funda lion.
lion is the 1st ever woman commission president and her team of 26 don't differ too much in profile from the usual brussels career politicians but her ambitions are a marked change her ideas a forward thinking as is the gender balance of her team it is a team with almost all as many women as men only one woman away from gender balance. this shows. it shows we have made real progress but also that we still have to do more funded lines primary focus is on climate change at the upcoming international climate meeting in madrid this december she plans to present a european green deal which aims to make europe the 1st climate neutral continent by 2050. we do not have a moment to waste any more on fighting climate change.
the faster europe moves. the greater the advantage will be for our citizens our competitiveness and our prosperity. to get going from the line we'll have to overcome europe's internal political problems once in office this sunday she'll begin torin european capitals selling her green vision as something quote inclusive recognizing that many countries such as poland and indeed germany still rely on coal for electricity she also needs to tackle countries like hungary which aren't too keen on european values despite being member states she certainly has a big job ahead of her. and is aiming high with a vision for the european union. put those goals into perspective they are very
ambitious and i think we need to talk about 2 things in this respect the 1st the magnitude of the goals fighting climate change is probably the most ambitious goals in the history. in the history of humanity it touches upon every aspect of our life traffic what we eat just to give you 2 examples and that's why. i make sure that every piece of legislation that she crafts curbs emissions for example and fights against climate change so that's one part and even even if everything went according to plan we still cannot be sure that she succeeds but now and here's the 2nd part the environment in which she will have to operate is difficult to say the least 1st of all the different leaders in the european union so the heads of state government are divided that's one problem if you think of hungry in germany a lot of opposition france and italy same thing and then you have this right here the european parliament which is more fragmented than ever since the last european
elections this year so even if everything went according to plan it would be very very hard for her to get the legislation here with all the opposition so most likely you know it's just like that she will have to settle somewhere in the middle but her plan is to have these abuses goals because she thinks you need to be ambitious to achieve at least something now to some of the other stories making news around the world. thousands of obedience are sheltering in makeshift camps after tuesday's powerful earthquake the death toll has now risen to 30 people rescuers are still pulling survivors alive out of the rubble as the worst quake to hit the country in 3 decades. officials in the u.s. state of texas have ordered residents of 4 towns to be evacuated after a new blast at a petro chemical plant 60000 people have been told to leave 3 workers were injured
in the initial blast early on wednesday. demonstrators across colombia are holding their 2nd national strike in less than a week part of ongoing protest against president even duke is right wing government and its anticipated economic plans protesters are also demanding the country's riot police be disbanded after a young demonstrator was killed by a tear gas canister over the weekend. iraqi protesters have set fire to the iranian consulate in the southern city of najaf outrage over iranian influence in the country has been through and in widespread antigovernment protests is the 2nd time this month demonstrators have attempted to burn the consulate. our poll has agreed to moscow's demands to show the crimean peninsula as part of russia the region is currently showing us russian territory on its map and whether apps but only for users within russian borders russia sees crimea from ukraine in 2014 and later
annexed it in a referendum that kiev and its western allies say was illegal. the u.n. world food program is warning of a worsening humanitarian crisis in booking a fossil they say the situation is being driven by extremist violence the number of attacks in the country has increased significantly this year with a number of civilian deaths already 4 times the total recorded in 2018. destroyed livelihoods this is the aftermath of extremist violence that has forced these villagers in northern book enough to abandon their homes and their fields taking with them only what they can carry. when they killed my brother buddha or. i hid in a river bed and came back in the morning to save my family a problem. for the ones. i left everything behind
a bicycle no cords just the clothes i'm wearing now. a little bit. more refugees are arriving at makeshift shelters like in cairo in central book enough ah so many are malnourished in desperate need of food and medical care. some have resorted to eating leaves. this man and his family fled 200 kilometers on foot to reach. what we need now is food everything else can wait once we get the food then we will worry about clothes on. swathes of farmland have been abandoned leaving many book you know be without a means to support themselves close to 500000 people in bikinis faso have been
forced to flee. the surge an extremist violence coincided with former president luiz compliers resignation from power in a popular uprising in 2014 the current administration says complier in negotiating a deal with extremists to avoid violence in bikini. since his ouster jihad is to have rapidly expanded their influence. and. there's been a 500 percent. increase in displacement one 3rd of the nation is now a conflict area this is a catastrophe and we've got to and we've got. so far that the military has been unable to contain the extremism despite international and regional assistants. the compromised security situation makes it difficult for age to reach those who need it the most. the lives of almost half
a 1000000 bikini babies has been pushed to the brink. angela merkel says germany needs nato more today than it did during the cold war she also pledged berlin will meet the military alliances defense spending target by the early 2030 s. germany has repeatedly come under fire from u.s. president donald trump who says it's taking a free ride on other nation's military budgets but chancellor has to convince a skeptical german public that it's in their interest to spend more on the armed forces. handshake with the minister of defense. then in his speech chancellor angela merkel focused on urgent foreign policy issues and offered a spirited defense of nato that are good enough to stack up even more so than jaring the cold war maintaining a nato is very much in our interest thank you once again because as the foreign
minister said yesterday europe is not in a position to defend itself alone side i live in this business and we depend on the transatlantic alliance so we must support and assume greater responsibility for it . and she said germany is ready to spend more on defense but that if you the defense minister has drawn up a plan for germany to play a greater role in the alliance with our defense budget reaching 2 percent of g.d.p. by the early 2030 s and we are committed to that. the opposition left party strongly criticize the plan parliamentary group leader accuse the government of spending too much money on the army. give off with your policy or military spending is dangerous it's expensive and ultimately your surrendering to donald trump from. even merkel's coalition partners the social democrats criticized her defense policy
. the social democrats do not want to support this push for military dominance we want to strong position in diplomacy and in the civilian struggle against humanitarian catastrophes we think this is the better course of action and you know that's just this is. already difficult times for the german government the 1000 spending commitment could put further strain on the coalition. german footballing legend year has been named coach of bundesliga team. until the end of the season in 1900 and former germany coach takes over from the sacked and each of which has lost coaching role was that the us national team but he was fired in 2016. not even klinsmann himself saw this coming you don't he recently been brought on to the hatter board as an advisor now he finds himself
a head coach still at least the environment is a familiar one is no stranger to the club and. get a bit of history here thanks to my father who was a passionate hard to fan the 1st game i ever watched and under sligo was against the court i was 8 years old in the stands with a blue and white in my hand my son was even at the club for a couple of years as a young goalkeeper but none the less he'll have to get to know this current squad in something of a hurry patters next fixture will be a stern test they face brucia dortmund on saturday but. it won't be easy i'll be a difficult start on saturday at the olympic stadium. but we'll take the challenge and then it's all about getting points and it's as simple as that. pats are currently without a win in for you've been busy games hovering precariously above the relegation zone
performing far below their potential one time world champion klinsmann has until may to get the club back on course. the big match of the champions league group stage on wednesday saw boss alona beat dortmund 31 luis suarez lille messi and 20 all scored for bossa before jayden santo pulled one back for dortmund the winnings fossil or no will finish on top of group f. while don't moan fold to 3rd place i will need to do better next week in order to advance and finally no news bulletin can be considered complete without the latest tweet from the u.s. president and donald trump isn't one to disappoint he's posted an image of himself as the fictional boxer rocky taken from the post of one of sylvester stallone's movies trump didn't comment on the image so it's difficult to discern his intent in tweeting it. this is news live from berlin