hi, friends. good morning, it's sunday, the 15th of may, 2016. horror on the highway when a charter bus flips over, killing eight people on board and injuring more than 40 others. the dramatic details and the new video coming in. and then "the new york times" goes after donald trump with a hit piece about the ladies and the rest of the media pounce. think they'll do the same for bill and hillary clinton? don't hold your breath. and a charity group that helps homeless veterans is being pushed out for obama's future presidential library. "fox & friends" begins right
now. ♪ what in the world are we looking at? >> it's normal. >> wake up, wake up. >> wake up, america. this is a friend of mine, actually. her name is emily from charlotte, north carolina, she is nine months pregnant. she is overdue and she's lifting up to 200 pounds, six days a week. she's into crossfit. she's gotten international media attention about this. some people think it's okay. some people think it's not okay. hey, my doctor says it's all fine. all good. >> why does it surprise me she's a friend of yours? she's getting so much vitriol on social media. i'm surprised she's overdue. you would think with all that work the baby become would be --
>> she has to be induced. >> we have a lot to get to this morning. including a fox news alert. >> yeah. nearly four dozens were hurt when an out of control charter bus flips over. it was headed to the casino near texas. at least 45 others were sent to area hospitals where another person died. it is unclear why the driver lost control. well, a deadly air show. the pilot killed when the plane crashed in front of a massive crowd of spectators. disturbing footage showing the plane taking the nosedive. no one on the ground was hurt but the pilot was died on impact. no word on a cause. and this morning still no signs of a woman who fell overboard a carnival cruise ship as the coast guard continues its
search. we learned that samantha broberg was on the trip, and her husband was not on board. the friends realized she was missing around noon on friday. security cameras captured her falling off the boat around 2:00 that morning. her family released a statement saying they hope and pray the u.s. coast guard is able to bring her home. and supreme court justice clarence thomas honoring his good friend around mentor the late justice antonin scalia during a graduation speech at hills dale college. >> think of justice scalia, i think of the good man whom i could instinctively trust. he was in the tradition of the south of my youth. a man of his word. a man of character. >> justice scalia died of natural causes at his texas ranch in february. his seat is still vacant.
those are your news headlines. >> thanks. well, the republican push to unite around donald trump is facing continued resistance this morning. there's some movement in washington for a third party run trying to recruit mitt romney and john kasich among many others. >> garrett tenney has the very latest on this latest plot. >> reporter: good morning. every other republican has dropped out of the race but the never trump movement is not giving up hope just yet. according to a report in "the washington post," a small group of veteran consultants and operatives are actively plotting to draft an independent candidate. with the goal of keeping trump from winning the white house. the group reportedly includes former gop nominee mitt romney and commentators bill kristol and erick erickson among others. and ohio governor john kasich as well as ben sasse who has been actively fighting trump's candidacy since the beginning. but the group has also reached
out the another outspoken reality tv star who they feel could give trump a taste of his own medicine. billionaire business man and owner of the dallas mavericks mark cuban. though cuban says he doesn't see it happening because there isn't enough time before the general election. the recruitment efforts have reportedly picked up steam over the past ten days since trump clinched the nomination, making the prospect of uniting the party seem even more insurmountable. though yesterday at yesterday's gop convention, paul ryan said it will take time. >> i had a long meeting with donald trump on thursday. i thought it was the productive meeting and the first meeting we ever had. we're beginning the process of what unity looks like in the republican party. this isn't done with a couple of meetings. our teams are meeting next week to go over the deeper meaning of the policies that we have been
talking about. >> reporter: ted cruz is not looking at a third party run but still isn't getting behind trump wholeheartedly either. >> we may face growing challenges going ahead, but i am convinced that movement, the men and women gathered here, will be the remnant, will be the core of pulling this country back from the abyss. >> reporter: one thing seems certain, there's still a long ways to go before this party unites around donald trump, if that happens at all. tucker, anna and clayton. >> thanks. ted cruz is still running, he needs a vacation. go to barbados for a week or two. >> we went to kentucky derby and we saw him enjoying a mint julep. he was back in the senate. >> isn't it too late anyway -- >> a bunch of them are smart, some of them are my friends but it's getting increasingly buffoon iist. the idea is that trump is not a
conservative, and we need a real republican to run in the third party, but we have a duty to lose is what they're arguing. if you're trying to recruit cuban, how can you -- i like mark cuban but he's not a conservative. if you're trying to recruit mark cuban how you offering a conservative alterative to donald trump? >> right. i mean, you look through this "washington post" report, almost every person cited in the piece is like thanks, but no thanks. >> they can't find anybody who wants to do in the first place. >> the laundry list, no, we're not running as a third party. >> are we still pretending that mitt romney is an conservative? he was more enthusiastic about abortion than trump at one point. he's a conservative? he's not a bad person, he's
smart and accomplished and all that, but he's way more conservative than donald trump? maybe the definition is fluid. >> what do you think about the idea being kick around to have a third party run in some states? >> sure. if you want hillary clinton to be president, and a lot of people do. >> thinking it will help some senators up for re-election and -- >> look at ross perot. >> they hate trump, i don't feel that way, but i understand that some people do. don't tell me it's healthy to push for hillary clinton to be president of the united states. >> and dr. ben carson will be joining us in the 8:00 hour to tell us about this. he was an early supporter of donald trump after he dropped out. i don't know if you read the new york time, there's a lengthy hit piece, a lengthy, if you read the comment thread on "the new york times" a hatchet job, looking into the past, the history of donald trump and his relationship with women. of course that's received the spotlight during the campaign famously in the debate when megyn kelly asked some pointed
questions about women and he went after her. pool parties at mar a largo and on and on. >> 50 interviews, and crossing the line, how donald trump behaved with women in private. now, over mainstream media publications have followed suit. reuters said trump has a history of questionable behavior with women. "new york" magazine, 40 years of trump being creepy to women. esquire, donald trump is a creep around women. >> just funny. esquire. where i used to write for them. esquire is now the arbiter of what's creepy with women is just hilarious to me. first thing to note this is wholly consistent with hillary clinton's campaign theme which is i'm a woman, elect me, trump hates women, don't vote for him. second, what have we learned? is trump creepy with women? yeah, i think it's a fair assessment. sometimes he said weird things i wouldn't say, but we learned that trump promotes women more
aggressively than like hillary clinton does. >> right. so in this piece, they highlight a woman who was highlighted to the heights of his real estate empire who was unheard of that other people in the new york real estate landscape would have had a woman at the height -- >> well, all his advisers are women starting was his daughter. does that mean he's a sexist? i don't know. >> and he said -- he kissed me on the lips or just random things which trump says didn't happen. with one of the beauty queens. but some of the people that continued to work with him even though for years and years, even though they say -- >> or dated him. >> one of the first girls in the piece was highlighted and was talking about how -- she was at a pool party at mar a largo, and she picks out a bikini and they ended up dating for many years. >> let's bottom line it. who's got a weirder personal life, donald trump or bill and
hillary clinton? you know what i mean? if that's the measure -- if we're thinking who to vote for, his interpersonal relationship, who has a stranger relationship? >> i'm sure next week we'll look into the creepy relationship with women from the clintons. >> women who accused him of abuse. >> that's in next week's new york times. now to extreme weather. parts of texas is under weather this morning. streets near houston were submerged. look at that. >> rescuers had to pull multiple people from their cars as the waters rose. >> the threat of severe weather is still not over. janice dean is tracking what is happening. >> good morning. of course we're worried about our friends in texas because they have gotten so much rain in the past several weeks. more rain in the forecast. you can see the radar estimate of precipitation, several inches in a short period of time. so we'll be watching this as the
slow moving cold front pushes through. looks like the rain has subsided for now. but we're dealing with maybe four to six inches of more rain on top of saturated ground. that's an issue. then one more thing we should talk about is that we have snow across the great lakes and the midwest. yes, cold enough for snow and we have freeze advisories for at least a dozen states. so it doesn't feel like springtime. at least there's lots to talk about in the weather center. >> holding janice responsible for the weather. fox news alert overnight. anthony kiedis rushed to the hospital. and what do these two people
have to say about donald trump? that he incites terror. and a woman is responding to critics who say she shouldn't be working out past her due date.
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welcome back. the mayor of london says that donald trump's stance on muslims will provoke more terror attacks. quote, donald trump's ignorant view of islam could make both of our countries unsafe and it plays into the hands of the extremists. here to weigh in this morning -- so he's outlining a hostage
situation. let muslims in your country or they'll attack you. why is that a reasonable explanation? >> as you said he's never said that, and if he said that you'd be playing the footage of it. it would be absurd. >> what else is he saying? i don't understand. you criticize muslims they'll attack you. >> he's saying what many people have said -- the liberals have said for over a decade now. that if you attack a minority, you marginalize them and then give you tools for recruitment to the extremists. they can say look, the western society doesn't like you, come join us anyway. and paul ryan and george bush believe it. >> immaterial what george bush and paul ryan believe. two-thirds of the british muslims would not alert the government to the existence of a terror attack if they knew about
it. 23% want shari'ah law. this in a country that's bent over backwards to this minority in the midst. and wouldn't report a terror attack, what is that? >> that's a mischaracterization of the poll, it was conducted in 2015 and people can look at it. i have studied the whole 615 pages of this poll and the analysis and as a political scientist i can tell you you're nitpicking. they say they'll intervene very vociferously. they'll talk to them personally and go seek help. they basically -- some of them say they won't go to the police, and that goes to the point that mayor khan is making, that you have basically alienated them. so they're afraid of going to the police. we want an environment where people in britain and in the west especially can feel comfortable enough to go to the police and not be thought of as suspects themselves. >> okay. >> that's exactly the argument that mayor khan is making. >> okay, it's ludicrous argument.
>> how is ludicrous? >> hold on. david petraeus seems to agree with you. those who flirt with hate speech against muslims should realize they're playing directly into the hands of al qaeda and isis. hate speech being of course anything david petraeus disagrees with. look, the point of view -- >> that's not true. >> americans looks at scandinavian and western europe and you have let in large numbers of people from the middle east, many remain unassimilated and you face the terror attacks. we don't what about that here, why is that an unreasonable position? >> it's not unreasonable at all. muslims don't want the terror attacks at all because they're ones being marginalized when somebody does something like in san bernardino. but what david petraeus is saying is opposite to how you're thinking you're saying it. let's be fair. the daily caller article that says exactly what you are trying
to say on the show today, that's your own publication. so you went out and basically -- you know, mischaracterized -- >> i haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about, but the truth is muslims are not in under attack. yet, non-muslim s face being injured in a terrorist attack. >> muslims are worried about this too, but hate speech hurts everybody. including the american muslims first amendment rights. >> okay. thanks for getting up and coming on. >> thank you. up next, female voters have a message foreign hillary clinton -- don't pander to me. >> i want a word or phrase to describe hillary clinton. >> corrupt. >> deceiver. >> opportunist. >> so is hillary clinton overplaying her hand with women? cat timf will react to that.
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welcome back to "fox & friends." 24 minutes past the hour. we have some headlines for you. what a wild day for bernie sanders supporters. watch this. tension between clinton and sanders' supporters boiling over at the democratic convention in nevada on saturday. barbara boxer responding to the jeers saying we had our nevada
caucus and hillary won. they're going to fight. >> they're so much drama going on on the democratic side. that party is in disarray. the republican party is more united around donald trump than the democratic party is united around hillary. >> did you see this? >> on the stranger end of the spectrum not surprisingly they had a wiccan ritual praying for the sanders nomination. watch this. >> be the bern, right, be the bern, be the bern. >> a half dozen wiccan portlanders gather around a small rug with four candles and an imitation ballot box adorned with bernie stickers. it is meant to provide positive energy, groovy energy, ahead of the -- >> they're feeling the bern, along with the doggie. >> and bernie sanders is stopping to take pictures with a group of kentucky students who are heading to their senior prom
and then one of them asked how his prom went and he said, there were some bad memories. >> you scratch a socialist you'll find a sad person underneath. >> he looks like grandpa showed up to take pictures with the kids for prom night. >> 25 minutes after the hour. to you feel like you -- do you feel like you're too tired to hit the gym? meet this mom-to-be she is two weeks past her due date and she's doing crossfit and lifting up to 200 pound. >> this fitness instructor has come under fire for doing hard core workouts while pregnant, but she is not letting that keep her down. >> emily breeze watson is here to respond. you're being induced tonight. a lot of people are judging you. i'm not by the way. why are people so eager to judge you? >> i don't know. it seems taboo and it's different and not the norm. but i'm here to try to let
people know that you can do things that you have been used to doing. >> okay. so the criticism though -- you know, maybe just the straining of the body and what about if -- what is that a squat thrust? clean and jerk? i don't know what that is called. i'm an avid gym rat as you can tell. that you'd drop the bar on your belly and hurt the child in some kind of way. what do you say to that? >> right. everything i'm doing is modified, lower weights than normal. my body is used to the movements, it's second nature. >> breeze -- emily, i'm sorry, you're a friend of mine. i call you breeze. i know you and montel and your husband are healthy and fit individuals. you're really looking forward to having this brand-new baby boy. what is your doctor saying? does he think this is a good idea? >> yeah. he's seen me for the past 11 years so he's seen me through
college and now. you know, he says there is no one prescription for pregnancy. that's been in the back of my mind. he says listen to your body and just know that your body is going to tell you when and when you cannot do something. >> okay. we have some viewer comments about your story. this is from kate. the kid will probably come out with biceps like schwarzenegger from trying to hold on during all that motion. do you worry your child will be jacked up from birth, rippling, huge, with muscles? >> i don't think i'm worried about that. that would be nice. he'll be ready to go to the gym with me. >> joe is saying, he's taking nutrients away from the baby. did you ever think of changing your fitness routine and not working out six days a week? >> not at all. i wanted to stay with me routine. >> it looks like you're doing hand stands, skydiving.
>> some impressive. >> yeah. no, there's definitely things i'm modifying. anything that feels uncomfortable. sometimes running i will take the time off. >> well, congratulations. tonight is the night. >> well, emily breeze watson, big things are happening tonight. you're getting induced. i know, i don't -- i want to tell you a big congratulations too. yesterday, breeze hosted a boot camp where they broke guinness records for sit-ups and push-ups with randy moss. >> while pregnant. >> thank you guys so much. >> have a great day. coming up, a shocking road rage attack caught on camera. we'll tell you what set off this fight. then a security group that helps homeless veterans is being pushed out to make way for get this, obama's future presidential library? >> and "the new york times" is taking on trump. detailing his relationships with
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alert. red hot chili peppers's lead singer anthony kiedis rushed to the hospital overnight. >> -- on his way to the hospital. unable to play this evening. >> they cancelled the irvine show. no word on if the band's tuesday night show will also be canc cancelled. kiedis has struggled with drug addiction in the past. but has been sober for many years. >> do you know who has been sober for many years is katherine timpf. we're glad to have her. did you read "the new york times" piece about trump liking the ladies? >> yes. >> it was designed to show that he was a woman hater and hillary's campaign is the same. did it work? >> no when i think of think of my concerns about donald trump, it's him saying raising the minimum wage and don't worry about the debt, just print the money. look at what the clintons have done in their personal lives. but that stuff is way more
disturbing to me. >> the actual policy ideas. >> exactly. i'm a woman, but policy believe it or not is more important to me than this pandering based on gender that's happening all over the campaign. >> we see the polls that show donald trump not doing very well with the ladies. so this piece, is it worth taking a look at this piece and diving into it? it's a lengthy piece, it's not just on the surface and you can't say he's been mean to women. he's elevated a lot of women in his organization. there's a lot to digest. >> absolutely. like you said, he's actually elevated women more so than hillary clinton has i would say. she's just running -- because she's a woman, i'm a feminist, if you look at her record, there's women that accused her husband of sexual assault and she tore them down. people are being fed this constantly, trump's sexist, trump's sexist, this story and that story. i want to talk about policy. >> right. a lot of people think that
donald trump's supporters support him no matter what. he's a brash billionaire. they take him for what he is. think he's a deal maker and will work for them. so it could backfire. female voters, you know, it's a voting bloc that hillary clinton is banking on, but there was a big focus group done by frank luntz and they said, stop pandering to me. >> i want a word or phrase to describe hillary clinton. >> corrupt. >> deceiver. >> opportunist. >> when a politician appeals to you as a woman, what do you say back to them? >> i'm offended. i'm a person. my gender is really irrelevant in judging them or being treated. i was -- my degree is in electrical engineering. i worked in a male field. it was irrelevant. >> i don't feel like i'm oppressed. don't treat me like a victim. >> i feel the same way. i don't need hillary fighting
for me. i'm fine. >> don't pander to women. >> is it totally irrelevant -- gender? i asked this question yesterday. you go into the voting booth. people say this on the focus groups or on the phone and people like to feel good about themselves and tell people they feel a certain way. they go behind that curtain and they're looking at a woman and a man, what do they do? does it matter? >> i think it matters to some women. a lot of younger people care less about hillary clinton being a woman. she's doing a lot less well than people expected. even though she's not a woman, i'm going to help you with the policies necessarily. she talks about child care and some other things. i don't know how we'd pay for i. but it's mostly you're a woman, i'm a woman too. let's sell these pink little cards. i'm not a 3-year-old planning a birthday party. >> i'm losing track of what we're supposed to pretend. are we supposed to pretend that
men and women are exactly the same or she'll be totally different as a president? which is it? >> exactly. it's feminist to say that women are so oppressed. obviously sexism exists. it's something to talk about. if hillary clinton is not my president my life will be destroyed, i'll be totally fine. >> you seem like a resilient person. >> i sure am. >> and you came in on a sunday morning. >> i love it. >> good to see you. >> 38 minutes after the hour. 11 people are hurt in the disney bus crash in florida. thick black smoke and flames are billowing over the trees. a an suv traveling the wrong way slammed into the bus. two adults and a child riding in the suv were rushed to the
hospital. eight others had minor injuries. and the horrific moments a driver loses control of their busy car at a busy intersection. a silver car comes barrelling down at full speed, careens into the black car. it's unclear if anyone was hurt. thousands of war heroes every month are about to be kicked to the curb so it can make room for president obama's presidential library. the rtw veterans center is the last privately owned facility blocking proposed restaurants and shops for the development. the group says city inspectors are working with the obama foundation after showing up unexpectedly to find code violations fining them $16,000 per day. the city will decide the group's fate on tuesday. oatmeal, brown sugar, pineapple, william smith has been eating that combination for 80 years and he calls it the
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50 in new york although it feels cooler than that. that's where the trough is in place. we have a lot of flooding across houston, texas, yesterday. we'll watch it move out of the rockies and bring in the potential for more rain. look at the snow, the snow across the great lakes. it is not right. there are your current temperatures where it feels below freezing in a lot of these regions but things will warm up. we'll warm you up with national slider day today with white castle later on. back to you, clayton. >> snow. >> janice dean, you make every morning brighter. pfizer gets political. the company banned their drug for being used for executions. is this a good idea? should they have the right to do that? a fair and balanced legal debate around executions are coming up. a shocking case of road rage is caught on camera. fists flies in the middle of the roadway. what set this off this brawl?
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fine. a little bit embarrassed about the whole ordeal. clayton, over to you. well, pfizer taking a stand against capital punishment. it's announced that it's going to block its drugs from being used in lethal injections. the drug making giant joins more than 20 other u.s. and european companies that have blocked execution drugs. now, all federally approved drug makers who could supply the drugs for executions are off limits. so is is a good move? here for a fair and balanced legal debate around this, are our attorneys. does pfizer have the right to do this? >> absolutely, pfizer is a private company and they have the right to create and implement any policy concerning the use of their products and whether those policies are motivated by moral or business reasons is of no importance at this point. but yes, they have a right to
dictate how their products are used. >> do you agree or disagree? big business, can they do what they want with their own products? >> as a private company they do. can we mention the hypocrisy. in the last 40 years we have exqudded over 1, -- executed over 1,400 people. but 40,000 people died from the prescription drug overdoses. if you want a moral stance or take the moral high ground how about do something to curb the deaths as opposed to making a political statement by refusing to give the government drugs that it requires, in legal situations because let's not forget that the death penalty is legal. any state that wants to have it and it's constitutional to put people to death by lethal injection. >> can they be compelled to do that? by forced -- that's a great point. can they be compelled to have their drugs used on death row? >> i don't think they can. let's think about it. this is the second largest
pharmaceutical company in the world. of course they're a company concerned about the dollar at the end of the day. so you have a company who's as huge as they are, why would they want their brand associated with capital punishment? no, no one can make them have their product be used to administer lethal injections. but the problem is if these states -- death penalty states can't obtain the drugs they'll think of alternatives that's where we -- >> that's the point i wanted to get to. now all the drugs are gone, you bring back firing squads? what do you? >> whether you agree with this or not, lethal injection is the most humane way to do it. then we have the electric chair, we have the gas chamber, firing
squads far less humane ways to put somebody to death once that they've been adjudicated for the death penalty. >> well, we're up against the break. i could continue this debate. a fascinating debate. great to see you. we appreciate it. thanks so much. coming up here on the show, that's a new third party push to stop donald trump. it involves mitt romney and mark cuban. watch out bald eagle. there's a new national symbol to worry about. it's the bison. really?
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the indians revered it. >> if it weren't for you, i never would have been this proximity to a bald eagle. it's a majestic animal. this bird is looking at me in ways that's make me uncomfortable. what is he thinking? >> he's checking things out. he's got excellent vision. he can see a fish a mile away. maybe that's why you are uncomfortable. you can't do that. >> he's in a center and gets regular exercise and is fed trout. tell us what a day like for him is like. >> he's in pigeon forge. he gets fed a great diet, fish, salmon, quail, and once in a
while a farm-raised white rat. >> he's 27. >> he's 27 years old. he was blown out of a nest as a team when he was five weeks of age. she made the mistake of raising him. they tried releasing him five, several times. >> because you are an advocate of the bald eagle. do you take issue at all with the bison? >> i think if we're going to have a national animal, the bison is an appropriate one, it's certainly steeped in american history, i don't think it's a threat. buffalo will never take over the status of this bird. this bird has been with us for so long and it is the symbol of everything we stand for, and so like i said the founding fathers chose -- they looked at all kinds of animals before they picked this bird so. >> as long as there's not a national reptile, i'm happy. >> we have a national tree, oak
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good morning, everyone. it's sunday the 15th of may, 2016. i'm canna kooiman. we'll start with a fox news alert. red hot chili peppers singer anthony kiedis is rushed on the way to the hospital. the breaking details coming in. donald trump facing new resistance on his road to the republican nomination. a new third party push from people who believe that mitt romney and mark cuban are conservatives. will that work? do you know someone at work who dresses like this? >> lucy, you are at work, so please dress like it. these tops that you wear are
completely inappropriate. >> wow. sorry to offend you. >> we've got the dos and don'ts for office attire. "fox & friends" hour two starts right now. ♪ my wish for you is that this life becomes all that you want it to ♪ welcome into "fox & friends." here's a heart warming story. this little boy has been through i think around heart surgeries in his life. had a big dream. to meet big papi with the red sox who is on a tear this season. he is batting .405 right now. he wanted him to hit a home run and he did. he did it. he said i'm going to hit you a home run for you tonight and he went up there and hit a home run. we're going to meet the little boy coming up in a little bit. our bookers have gotten the best guests this weekend.
>> good morning, everyone. great to see you. it's sunday morning in new york city. wherever you are, i hope you are feeling happy. >> you know what today is also? we've got national slider day but it's also national chocolate chip cookie day. >> are we celebrating that too? >> chips ahoy, i used to eat a whole sleeve of them growing up. that's how i kept my svelt body. republicans first unite around donald trump but that push is facing resistance this morning. there is yet a new movement finding a third party candidate to run against trump. the candidates include mark cuban, mitt romney and john kasich. >> do not hold your breath on the republican party uniting behind donald trump quite yet. six months before the general election, the never trump movement is actively working to
draft a candidate for a third party run with a goal of keeping trump from winning the white house. those recruitment efforts have picked up over the past ten days. the small group reportedly includes former gop nominee mitt romney and bill crystal and others. some of the top targets is john kasich and ben sats who has been an outspoken leader in the never trump movement since the beginning. the group is reaching to political outsider, another brash billionaire tv star, mark cuban, owner of the nba dallas mavericks and the show "shark tank". cuban told the group thanks, no thanks. he doesn't consider it viable. while the anti trump recruitment efforts are under way, house
speaker paul ryan told people at an event last night, that uniting will take time. >> i thought it was a very productive meeting. it was the first meeting we've had. we're beginning the process of discussing what unity looks like in the republican party. this takes some time. this isn't done with a couple of meetings. this takes some time. our teams are meeting next week to talk about the deeper meaning of the policies we're talking. ted cruz isn't getting behind donald trump either. he didn't mention trump's name at a texas gop convention. >> we may face growing challenges ahead, i'm convinced that movement, the men and women gathered here, will be the remnant, will be the core of pulling this country back from the abyss. >> while that third party effort is under way, we should note the
deadlines for candidates to register in several states such as texas have already passed and the deadlines for many others have passed. holy smokes, is ted cruz still running? he needs a vacation. >> he's suspending his campaign. that doesn't mean he's ended it. he's welcome to show any time. romney and friends would rather have hillary has president, it's that simple and in fact it's that simple, you are right. >> an email from june says trump is not a republican, never has been until now, when he thinks it would be to his advantage. >> jim in florida writes this, romney has cost the republicans one election and is in the process of costing us another one. we're going to talk to ben carson, a trump support, he was one of the people to throw his
support behind donald trump. we don't need to pretend mitt romney is a conservative anymore. it's over. "new york times," it's an angry little blog, they have a very long piece about how donald trump has crossed line. they never specify what the line is, but he's crossed the line with women with how he's behaved in private. it teaches you a lot of things you already knew. he like the ladies. he says things a little vulgar, over the top. is it the kill shot they hoped for? >> some of the headlines you'll read from reuters, trump has a history of questionable behavior with women. cbs and "new york times" delves into donald trump's history with women. new york, 40 years of trump being creepy of women and esquire saying donald trump is a creep around women. >> it is lengthy. it goes back to his times in
college, where classmates called him a ladies man. they said he was always walking around with the most beautiful women, amazing dates. he also elevated women to the top of his real estate empire when other people in the 1980s p wouldn't have a woman as the head of a large business. >> it's weird this piece comports with hillary clinton campaign theme. what a surprise. here's a guy, donald trump, who has promised to eliminate the federal debt in a presidential term. that's impossible. that might be worth writing about. no, it's trump is a sexist, a racist. it's always the same with liberals. it's the shallowest possible critique. >> next week, you'll have "new york times" expose on hillary's relationship with women as well.
>> are they going to see them do the same thing with bill clinton and his associations with women? >> how about all the women who have accused him of sexual assault? juanita broderick, how about that? is it out of bounds in polite society to bring it up? really? donald trump is saying he was excited to go on a date with a victoria secret model. >> what man wouldn't be? >> whoa! crossed the line. >> read the piece and weigh in. >> you may not like it. you may sigh this -- okay, fine, you are probably not going to be shocked by it. we're following some other stories that are making headlines. we'll start with this one for you. eight people are dead, nearly four dozen others hurt when an out of control charter bus flipped over. the bus was headed near a casino
in lorado, texas. other cars were involved. it is unclear why the driver lost control. another fox news alert, red hot chile peppers lead singer anthony kiedis rushed to the hospital last night. >> he's on his way to the hospital right now and we're unable to play this evening. >> the band canceling their irvine show because of the unspecified medical emergency. no word if their concert will be canceled on tuesday as well. kiedis has struggled with drug addiction in the past but reportedly has been sober for years. and they are not burned out yet. more bernie sanders supporters are swearing never to support hillary clinton. an online pledge at won't vote hillary has more than 66,000 signatures and the numbers keep on rising. tension between clinton and
sanders supporters boiling over at the democratic convention in nevada. >> recount! recount! recount! >> california senator barbara boxer responding to the jeers demanding a recount simply saying we had our nevada caucus and hillary won. you heard about all the hidden kingdoms in the united kingdom. they are everywhere. >> it's like they are everywhere here in the united states. >> it's way worse in the united kingdom but could they be coming to the united states soon in an effort to keep people from acting badly in public? that's what the u.k. is now doing. they are tired of people sticking their feet on train cars, propping their feet off. wiping gum underneath tables. they are trying to stop bad behavior. >> what's so interesting is liberals used to argue on behalf of the right to privacy.
rowe v became the law on behalf of the right of privacy. >> this is a public place. it's the tubes in london. it seems orwellian to have cameras looking at you all the time. >> people in the privacy of their own home can do whatever they want, you want to put your feet up on the table. if i'm on a train, put your stinky feet down. >> what habits annoy you? why should we have cameras in this country? what habits would they detour? >> the british are so polite, aren't they? >> they used to be. >> and listen, i ride the long island railroad every day and feet are up everywhere. we have something called manspreading here in new york
city. why if they fine people for that? this is adrian and mark. tell me what you think of this secret cameraing in. >> i think it's kind of strange. i go take the long island railroad all the time and as long as there's nobody really on the train, is not packed, i don't see why there should be a problem. >> as long as, you know, they don't have bare feet or if someone wants to sit there, they move their feet out of the way. >> it could be a health hazard with nail fungus. >> do you think you should be fined? >> no. >> it's annoying when people have that phone call to talk to their mom. >> or they pull out a fish sandwich. >> the answer is more federal surveillance of our behavior. >> more cameras. >> my favorite is if you are not
doing anything wrong, there's nothing to worry about. privacy is important. >> send us your email addresses and your pass wards. >> social security numbers and passport numbers. the media going after donald trump's pac. and hillary clinton's scandals are haunting here. who is secrets will hurt them worse? a fair-and-balanced debate coming up. then beyonce, she wants her new clothing line to inspire people around the world so why is she using sweat shop labor allegedly? the stunning new reports are coming up.
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oh, well, a massive expose in the "new york times" this morning on donald trump, trying to find a connection between hillary clinton's campaign slogan, he's against women, and his past. has it worked and will hillary clinton's email scandal continue to haunt her? secrets of the two candidates, will they play a central role in this campaign? joining us now miami beach mayor phillip levine and boris epstein. first to you, mr. mayor, "the new york times" has come out with a piece that happens to track perfectly with hillary's theme which donald trump has a problem with women and in it we find out that he's promoted women within his organization for 25 years in a way that other
companies haven't. why is that not a good piece for trump? >> well, i can't talk to whether he has a great relationship with women. the fact of the matter is the polling shows that women really don't approve of him. nor do african-americans or hispanics. i think he has a bigger problem with the truth, and of course as soon as he gets out of his irs federal investigation, maybe he will release his tax returns. we would love to see them so we can show that he's actually not a billionaire. we can show all the off-shore corporations he has. >> i think boris, the mayor makes a good point. why is this obsession with the p.c. stuff? like he's a sexist. >> if i were affiliated with the clintons, i probably wouldn't talk about taxes seeing as the clinton foundation has to restate four years of tax returns because after hillary clinton said she would not accept foreign money into the foundation while she was secretary of state. guess what happened? $20 million of foreign
government money went in and $8.8 million of federal grant money. if i were the clinton, i will stay away from the tax thing. >> mr. mayor, why isn't she releasing her speeches she gave to wall street firms? >> she releases her transcript, it shows she went to i abank and she made a deposit and a withdrawal, we know it's going to happen. the republicans are going to use that all over the world and she's making deposits all over the world and take it out ov. >> we know donald trump is not a billionaire. we know he's avoiding taxes. and forget about the clinton initiative. [ multiple people speaking ]
>> people want to make this about donald trump's personal life. who has a weirder personal life, the clintons or donald trump? >> i'm not going to opine on that. if they want to go after donald trump personally, they can do better maybe than "the new york times" article that says please don't dwell on the women of his past. congratulations. does that matter? is that a big deal? let's talk about the federal investigation that's ongoing with the email scandal. [ multiple people speaking ] >> don't skirt that, mayor. >> i wish we had more time. thanks for joining us. appreciate it. a frightening crash at disney world, a bus goes up in flames after colliding with an suv. the scary details ahead. and a boy has undergone 40 heart procedures and he had one wish to meet his hero, big papi
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bye! >> that six-year-old maverick who has a congenital heart defect. he lived inle couldle could. he wanted to meeting david ortiz and then that wish came true. >> no way! >> big papi! >> dude! >> my buddy, man. how are you? hey, you look good. >> you look good. the little red sox fan flying across the country, even throwing out the first pitch at the red sox game last week and here to tell us how this all happened is maverick and his mom. nice to see you both of you this morning. >> good morning. >> how did all of this happen, you sent a video message to david ortiz. what was it like flying into fenway to meet your hero? >> well, it was awesome. >> awesome. how did all this happened?
you are a huge red sox fan. tell us about maverick's condition and why this is so special to him. >> maverick was born with a heart condition. 20 weeks i knew that he was going to be born with a heart condition, and most recently we found out that maverick had an infection in his heart and he is in right sided heart failure. most of his life, he's been in and out of the hospital, and he has had numerous heart surgeries. he's had -- just recently, he had a tracheostomy removed to go into his next heart procedure. the mortality rate was too high to keep it in place. he got an infection in his heart. it's too risky with the infection. he needs a pulmonary valve replaced. it's been a struggle for him. between his lung disease, he's had airway problems.
he's just kind of always gotten through a lot for him. right now, we're taking one day at a time as we've always done his whole life and we're just kind of struggling with his heart right now. we're preparing for the next procedure on his heart. >> there's been some real warm moments and maverick, big papi made a big promise to you. he sent you a video message saying he was going to do something for you. what did he say? >> hit me a home run. >> he said he was going to hit a home run. now that's a tal order to hit a home run. here's that video message i want to play for our audience of him promising aw home run. >> big papi for my boy, we love. >> cowboy up. always on your side. >> stay positive, keep the faith. you take care and i'm going to hit a hoerm for you tonight. remember that. >> he's hitting a home run for you, maverick.
>> for you. >> he said i am going to hit you home run. that was on april 29th. what happened? what did he do? >> he hit a home run. >> marty, were you shocked by that 8th inning home run? >> absolutely. you know, you just hope that, you know, you don't really -- when we're watching the game, you are not thinking that home run, you are more in shock that we got a video from big papi, let alone that he was going to hit the home run, so it was astonishing that he actually hit the home run, so, yeah. absolutely. >> maverick, i understand you stayed up really late after that home run. what did you think when you saw him hit that home run? >> well, i kind of knew he was going to do it because he never ever lets me down. >> oh, he never ever lets you down. well, he is hitting .405 right now. i think he hit a walk-off home run yesterday as well, right?
>> yes, he did. >> he did it again. he hit a home run and he has beat the yankees. >> he beat the yankees, yep. >> you are a brave little man. i appreciate you both joining us this morning. maverick, and marty, thank you so much for joining us on "fox & friends" this morning. >> absolutely. thanks for having us. >> so touching. coming up here on the show. hillary clinton's friend and aide human ma an he dean -- huma hamedin. how could it impact the election. and a woman pumping iron with a due date. what do you think? your emails about this one.
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funeral delayed for months. a move that comes as family members continue to feud over his fortune. his sister spoutd off by a private memorial service. she's insisting that her brother's remains won't be there and neither will she or his family. she also implied one memorial is enough and delayed his official funeral until august. another walk of shame for huma abedine. a new documentary about her husband anthony weiner. married to unwith of hillary clinton's closest advisers. >> the movie files weiner's fail campaign for new york city mayor. and also her humiliation after her husband's infamous tweet.
the documentary hits theaters on friday. the new york post is reporting that a new trend in the big apple, parents with deep pockets are hiring help to get their kids homework done. a 27-year-old freelance writer telling the post about his side work which he advertises on craigslist. parents pay him up to $350 per paper. parents say it's a small price to pay to help reduce the stress in their children's school day. >> those are your headlines. we had a segment last hour with a friend of anna's who is a fitness strucker who is so preg she's being inducing today. you can see this picture. she's still dead lifting 200 pounds. this has offended people.
>> this is how she's responded. >> honestly, i think that they are just -- it seems a little taboo and it's different and it's not the norm, but i'm here to try to let people know that you can do things that you've been used to doing. everything that i'm doing currently is modified. lower weights than normal. he says there is no one prescription for pregnancy and that's always been the back of my mind and listen to your body and just know that your body is going to tell you when and when you cannot do something. anything uncomfortable. i'll take the time off. >> i've never been pregnant. >> pregnancy hits women differently. some women are in pain the whole time and their hips are killing them. others are i didn't feel anything. i'm fine. >> this is modified for breeze. they normally can dead lift like 300 pounds or something like crazy like this. this is actually a lot less
weight than i normally do. >> our viewers have been commenting all morning. it actually makes your body stronger and prepared for delivery. it's a shame people will shame her for doing no wrong. >> women take too many unnecessary chans while pregnant. >> responsible pregnant women know their bodies and baby. they don't need to be told what to do. >> here's one, tucker, social media makes it easy for stringser to -- strangers to judge each other. get off immediately. backlash grows after the obama administration orders all public schools in the country to get transgender bathrooms. pfizer bans their drugs for executions. making it harder to execute people or not. judge alex is here to react next. do you know someone at work who dresses like this? >> it's casual day.
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a judge. i'm struck by this order, it does not define what transgender means. suggesting that your sex is whatever you say it is. is that the state of play right now you think? >> i think that's one of common problems that we're finding now any time we're dealing with transgender issues, whether it's in schools and claims under title ix or whether it's in public places. we're starting to question well, what exactly is -- qualifies somebody has transgender and how do you even prove it? anybody can say they are transgender and, you know, use whichever restroom they want. that's the fear most people have. the reality, of course, is that transgender students, unfortunately, do need some form of protection. about 50% of transgender students, they get -- first of all, they get bull ideology all the time. 50% of all transgender students have attempted suicide. >> how many students are there? >> i don't know. according to the boston
clinic -- >> .03 of 1%. >> it's about 2 to 4 kids in a school of about 2,000 right. >> sure. it's a small percentage but it's kind of hard to pin down the number because not everybody self-identifies anyway. it's hard to tell. department of education stepping into this is, of course, going to be challenged in the courts. you know, you'll remember that the allegation that the obama administration was rewriting laws like title ix which is designed to protect women against discrimination in educational institutions now applying it to transgender people. wait a minute, how do we define women? a guy who identifies as a woman is considered a woman under the law? and obama administration was challenged about doing the same kind of rewriting with the obamacare act and they changed what the law said. this will be challenge in the courts for years. >> for years, heading to the supreme court likely. >> i want to get your take on this story out of pfizer. they are putting the kibosh on
anybody using their drugs for lethal injections. pfizer makes its products to enhance and save lives of patients we serve. consistent with these values, we strongly object to the use of any other of our products in the lethal injection process for capital punishment. there are many states who only use lethal injection. they bring back firing squads. to happen on death row. >> that's exactly going to happen. the anti death penalty activists are looking for every possible way to stop executions in general and over the years the supreme court has said that firing squads, the electric chair, death by hanging, gas chambers are all constitutional. states have voluntarily moved toward lethal injection as a less painful way of executing individuals who are under death penalty sentence. but now the activists instead
are going after the lethal injection process in order to present any execution -- prevent any execution. not that they feel realistically it's more painful than anything. by attacking these manufacturers, what they may very well be doing is causing other states like oklahoma and utah have done, you know what, if we can't get these drugs because they are not available to us, then we will resort to the other methods that have been approved in the past. you'll have people executed by firing squad like oklahoma and utah have decreed or the electric chair which ends up their clients suffering a more painful did he go than they otherwise would have. >> pfizer makes life saving drugs. i don't think they should be forced by the government to kill people. >> thank you so much for coming up on the program. "the new york times" publishes a big long piece about donald trump's relationships with women.
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>> more flair. but that's part of the uniform and you really do kind of have to look at the culture, whether in a restaurant or office to figure out how you should look. that's my first tip. also, i talk about this in the book about wearing what you need to wear to the interview to impress the boss. here's an example of what maybe not to do. >> so you don't read runway? >> no. >> today you never had heard of me? >> no. >> and you have no style or sense of fashion. >> well, um -- i think that depends on what you're -- >> that wasn't a question. >> what she was wearing would have been fine to a different job but probably not one with devil wears prada. >> going to interview for a high fashion magazine with no offense to the gap, but low key clothes.
make sure you're wearing the right outfit. if you have the job, here's a piece of advice, be appropriate. ♪ >> holy [ bleep ]. >> all right, let's do this. ♪ >> call me donald trump, but that seems appropriate to me. >> every teenager's fantasy to have a teacher look like that and wash your car. >> when you're going to support the kids car wash and around a bunch of 10-year-olds maybe not wear that outfit. >> dress like everybody else? >> no, you want to wear what's appropriate for like, i don't know the job that you have. that really didn't work. this is my opinion. >> it's a fine line. don't be afraid to dress to impress? >> you want to dress to impress, especially you have to remember the kind of image you're giving
to bosses because they may notice if you don't look good. watch. >> maybe you should put on a proper shirt with a collar? >> a collar, these are hip hop people. >> dress to impress, find a boyfriend shirt that fits and bring the hair down. tuck in the shirt. why doesn't anybody tuck anything in any more? i'm asking you. >> it would be perfect in silicon valley with a startup. this is a millennial issue and they are not dressing appropriately. remember mark zuckerberg got so criticized for wear the hoodie. things like that hurt your credibility. you need to be careful that you are wearing the right clothing and i'm sorry, but casual friday has gotten way too casual -- >> don't get high before a job interview, something else -- >> good point. >> good to see you, cheryl. >> i wrote a blog on this issue at cheryl caseone.com.
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computer. they say his handwritten entry wasn't good enough. your reactions are pouring in about this. ♪ >> hey, everybody, welcome to "fox and friends." we hope you're doing well. >> it's a delicious morning around here. >> we have tons of food but more important we have anna on the couch. >> it's amazing. >> the love could not be anymore. >> donald trump firing back over this "new york times" piece. we'll bring that to you in mere moments. but dr. ben carson, former republican candidate for president, he has been fighting back against the never trump camp and threw his hat behind donald trump almost immediately after dropping out of the presidential race. good to see you, dr. carson. >> good to see you. >> the never trump people said
have he's not a traditional conservative and now they are telling us that mitt romney and mark cuban might make good third party candidates to run against trump. is mark cuban more conservative than donald trump? i'm getting confused. >> well, you know, there's a level of arrogance there that is almost inkprensible. we have a system in place that allows the will of the people to be expressed. now these people come along and say the people don't know what they are talking about. get them out of here. we're the ones who know who the nominee should be. i hope people are taking note of that and who these people are. >> mark cuban has said he doesn't want to do it in. in fact, it seems the never trump people are having a hard time finding somebody who does want it. is it too late in the first place and would it ensure that hillary clinton gets the white house? >> well, of course it would fracture the party. and that's the goal of some of the people who would actually
prefer to have hillary in place because she's a known quantity. she's one of them. i think a lot of the people have recognized that there's a political class, it consists of both democrats and republicans and independents who believe that they are in control and they should maintain control. they have a right to be in control. and thomas jefferson said it best, he said, just before we turned into another form of government because we weren't paying attention and the government was growing and dominating that the people would awaken and would recognize what was going on. they would rise up. i believe that's happening, not just with republicans -- a lot of democrats also are recognizing what's going on because we're americans first and we have a system that has worked very well that propelled us to the pin cal of the world and gave our children the opportunity. we're throwing that away and people are starting to understand that. >> it was reported this week, dr. carson, that you are
mounting a pr campaign, reaching out and making phone calls to people in the never trump movement, former rivals of donald trump, making the case to come on the trump train. how are you making that case and what has been the response? >> i'm not just talking to former candidates, i talk to everybody about that. you know, there's certain people in the media who came out and said that i'm making a personal reach to this person or that person. that's their own interpretation. i've never said that. but i do have an open door policy and want to encourage that we all get together. i advocated all candidates come together in a room with donald trump and let's talk about what we can do to fix this country and to help. not how we destroy one person or another person, and the key thing that people have to recognize is we're at a point
right now where we are deciding what kind of country we're going to be and what we're going to pass on to our children. are we going to have a progressive movement that does things like confuse our children and tell them you're not a boy, you're not a girl, it's what you feel like today? come on. give me a break. we're going completely off the rail. 30 years ago somebody that tried to describe today's america to you, they would say give me a break. there's no way that could happen in america. it's happening at record speed. we've got to stop it. >> "the new york times" has been making the case that donald trump is a sexist and they have a new piece today trying to make that case as well. as a christian are you comfortable with the way donald trump behaves with women? >> donald trump has elevate added a lot of women in thinks organization, much sooner than other people begin to recognize the value of women. so as a christian, what i do do
is not judge everybody. that seems something people have gotten into. i'm better than you are. give me a break. let's just stop for a moment. i'm talking to conservatives and let's consider where we are as a nation and what we have to do. what you're feelings are personally about a person is irrelevant. what we need to be talking about is your children and grandchildren's future. think about that and you'll make the right choice. >> here's what donald trump tweeted in response to that "new york times" article. the failing "new york times" wrote another hit piece on me. all are impressed with how nicely i have treated women and have found nothing. a joke. do you think the "new york times" will release a lengthy piece on the history of women in the clinton family? >> no, i don't think that's very likely to happen. they don't even try to hide
their bias. many of these newspaper and news organizations and that's why people have so little faith in them. they used to be highly trusted and of course the press is the only business that's protected by our constitution. the reason was because they were supposed to be honest and on the side of the people and keep the people informed so they could make the right choices. that has been distorted an you see what the result is. i call up on young journalists to reject those people who are training them to be dishonest and to have an agenda. >> dr. carson, speaking of hillary clinton, she's been on our political mega phone saying he must have something to hide if he doesn't release his taxes. does he need to do that or does he have anything to hide? >> he has a lawyer. his lawyer has told him that he should not release those tax forms until after the audit is completed. he has said that once the audit is completed he will release
them. we don't have any reason to believe that that's untrue. so if somebody really wants them badly, why don't you put pressure on the irs to finish your audit so he can release them. >> it's a little weird because donald trump is so open about everything else. doesn't seem to high anything. why wouldn't he release his tax returns? it might be interesting to read them, no? >> again, you probably, tucker, don't do things when your lawyer tells you not to do them either. >> i don't have any lawyers. >> a team of lawyers. mitt romney has said there's a bombshell hiding in these tax returns and that donald needs to release them. whether or not it's how much money he's do natured or said he donated to veterans mitt romney has pointed out, the list goes on and on. what do you say to that? >> at this time in the political cycle during the 2012 race, mitt romney had not released his.
i think that should be considered as well. >> interesting. >> maybe by the time we get to point in the cycle where romney had released his trump will have released his. >> dr. carson, thanks for joining us this morning. >> have a great sunday. >> my pleasure. >> we're following a lot of news this morning. we'll start with this fox news alert. red hot chili peppers anthony ketis rushed to the hospital last night. >> on his way to the hospital right now and we're unable to play this evening. the band forced to cancel their ir vine show apologizing to the crowd and saying they were devastated they couldn't perform. they say he was suffering from severe stomach pain. no word on if their concert on tuesday will be canceled. a stunt turning deadly near atlanta. the pilot killed when his plane crashes in front of a massive
crowd of spectators. disturbing footage showing the plane taking a nose dive. no one on the ground was hurt but the pilot died on impact. officials are not releasing a name yet as they investigate the cause. facebook executive sheryl sand berg is speaking out. how she found gratitude through grief during a commencement speech saturday at u.c. berkeley. >> dave could have had the same cardiac aridge mia driving your children. the minute he said it, i felt overwhelming gratitude that my children were alive. and that gratitude overtook some of the grief. >> wow, how about that for perspective. she urged graduates to find joy in every moment. her husband died while on
vacation with her family in mexico one year ago this month. oatmeal, brown sugar and pineapple and coconut. william snij has been eating that for 80 years and calls it the hawaii an special. when he submitted that to quaker oats to a contest, they rejected it because he had a handwritten ingredient list rather than typed out as the rules stated. they only accept online entry. he doesn't have a computer and calls it age discrimination. clayton? >> how did we learn about this? did it end up on social media? >> maybe his grandchild posted something. >> i'm going to puts it on facebook. sid writes, not only should quaker accept his entry but award him in a special way. >> for ks the last handwritten letter writer in america. jp says the guy should have followed the rules, that's why there are rules, to follow them.
>> mary says, no everyone has a computer. i think mr. smith's recipe should have been fine. something tells me quaker will reverse -- >> beautiful cursive handwriting. >> thank you so much. >> handwritten notes, the best thing to ever do. >> i don't want to take away from tucker's beautiful comment. i love working here on wkz. you're always full of great compliments. what's your favorite part of new york city, everybody? >> fox and friends. >> i did not coach them at all. we have cooler temperatures in the upper midwest where the temperatures are a little around the freezing mark, so cold, we've got some snow across the upper great lakes and we have texas and the gulf coast. areas around houston were flooded yesterday. we're concerned about more flooding across texas over the next couple of days. flash flood watches and warnings and you can see the last 12 hours. there's that snow across the upper great lakes.
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we're beginning the process of discussing what unity looks like in the republican party. as i said before, this takes some time. this isn't done with a couple of meetings. this takes some time. our teams are meeting next week to go over the deeper meaning of the policy we've been talking about. >> paul ryan confirming that he and donald trump will hold more meetings to discuss differences as the stop trump movement continues to push for a third party run. what is the gop's risk of not uniting? >> here to weigh in is chris wallace. it also seems from the speaker like a tu torial on conservatism, the deeper issues. do we know what the specific
hangup is? is there one issue or several issues they disagree on? >> i know that one issue that i'm told by sources close to the speaker, that he is most concerned about is pro-life, on the issue of abortion, of course. trump has had a dramatic change over the last decade on that. he used to be very strongly pro-choice. he now takes the pro-life position. i think speaker ryan wants to make it clear that's not negotiable. that's an issue that is a core tenant for him and the republican party. i think you're right though, there is a certain amount of trying to bring trump and his team up to speed. i'm told in the meeting that they had this week at rnc headquarters that paul ryan brought along charts to explain entitlements and how much trouble the country is going to be in if we don't do something to reform entitlements and cut the spending and of course at this point trump is saying he's
not going to entertain any cuts in either medicare or medicaid or social security. i expect there's a certain amount of education going on on the part of speaker ryan. >> i'm sure trump enjoyed being recollect to lectured with charts and graphs. >> mitt romney meeting with mark cuban and others trying to create a third party candidacy, do you buy it? >> i buy it's happening. do i think anything will come come of it? who's to say. all they need is somebody to sign up but it sounds desperate and late. the filing deadline has already passed in one major state, texas. if you're going to have some kind of third party candidacy, you need a relatively big name to front it and at this point apparently everybody they are talking to says, no, i think it's a great idea but not me. everybody from john kasich to mark cuban to mitt romney.
and they don't seem to have a lot of money. other than the fact that the filing deadlines are passed and don't have a big name or a lot of money, it sounds like a heck of a good idea. and i guess i would make one other point. talking about maybe they are going to go on the ballot in a half dozen swing states. so the whole point would not be that this person would be running to be elected president. it would simply be to block trump. i would think there aren't many republicans who are going to go along with that idea. at the top of the hour we'll talk to reince priebus and we'll ask him. >> fox news sunday coming up in a short amount of time. check your local listings. great to see you this morning. >> thanks. >> still ahead, take a look at this road rage caught on camera. the surprising thing that set this off. >> is your child staring at their smartphone during dinner? do you know what to do?
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buckle your seat belts, road rage caught on camera. a shocking brawl breaking out on the streets of houston, texas. a man in the car throws a drink at the woman and that leads not surprisingly to a fist fight and foot fight as well. the woman screaming frantically trying to break it out and in a fit of anger, the man and woman backing their truck into a car before speeding off on the highway, the car following close behind. wow. thank heaven for iphone cameras.
a charity group about to be kicked to the curb for drum roll please, president obama's presidential library, a far more important venture. the rtw veterans center in south chicago is the last privately owned facility blocking developments of the leader's library. city inspectors are working with the obama foundation after showing up unexpectantly to find code violations, fining $16,000 per day. that's not authoritarian on anything. lots of luck. >> thanks, tucker. 60% of toddlers under the age of 3 can swipe a touch screen before they can learn to talk. nearly half can take selfies as toddlers. the kids aren't the only digital addicts, parents own smartphones and overuse has left a third of kids starting school lacking social and speech skills. what can we do to fix this? the executive chairman of
content watch, the makers are net nanny. >> good morning. >> we've got some kids here hard at work on their laptops. >> typical scene in an average american home. >> and big kids over here. >> take a selfie, right? that looks so cute. >> these devices are u bik tus, where do you turn to find the right answer? >> it's not as easy as it sounds, 6 to 12-year-olds are spending six hours a day on a device or screen outside of school or homework and if you're a teenager, up to nine hours of day. that's the average. i would hope parents would recognize that's pretty excessive. >> what is the right amount? if nine hours -- sitting here for nine hours doing work -- >> think of the other things she could be doing instead of those nine hours. it's going to depend on your child and age they are. some research says 1 to 2 hours is more than enough time. there are benefits you can get from technology but the amount
of time we're spending today, parents are recognizing sort of turning their children into zombie like creatures and children are noticing it's doing the same thing to their parents. >> parents as well. >> what about parental controls? this is a concern as kids are heading in the teenage years. what sorts of trouble they could be getting in online. how do you set those parent at controls? >> parents typically use devices as disciplinary tools. if their homework isn't done, devices are removed. you can do that digitally. you don't have to get involved and argue with your children. parental digital tools like net nanny can help them do that and see what their children are doing online and set time limits, curfews on the device itself. >> we talk about parents, you need to set technology ground rules. let's move to the table here where janice and anna have been on their phones during the meals. the child is going to be on the phone during the meals. how do you set ground rules at the table in the family setting?
>> let's take a picture. >> instagram. >> avoid the temptation. families are saying don't even bring devices to the table or silencing them. but if you have it in your pocket and it starts vibrating, we'll immediately turn or our attention will be distracted. some families have gone so far to say we're going to make a tech basket here. phones go in there, no one touches them during the meal. >> tech time-out basket. >> we do this a chick-fil-a. >> getting heavy now. some restaurant are doing this. >> how many times do you look over at the table next to you and not your own table and see four or five family members on devices. >> they are finding that children learn their most advanced vocab larry words sitting at the dinner table with your parents.
if you're depriving your child at that and looking at your device and listening to kids but not looking at the visual cues, you're losing half of the communication. >> you had a good day today? >> look them in the eye. >> how's your breakfast? >> after you eat you can have your phone back. >> chris, thank you so much. get back to eating. >> coming up here on the show, democrats hate him and ms nbc is even going after allen grayson. >> forcing a lot of bad facts and untruths into your questions and i have to stop you and correct you each time. that's actually what's happening. >> i'm going to ask you a question and we'll -- >> i gave you a good example of that. >> i'll show you actually the documents from your hedge fund that -- >> what sparked that fiery exchange? i can't get a word in edgewise on that debate. have you seen someone put their feet on the train seat? one country is putting hidden cameras to catch people in the act.
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>> thank you very much. >> let's look at the map. we actually have a little bit of snow across the great lakes if you can believe it. it is cold out there. 10 to 20 degrees below average across the upper midwest and great lakes and midwest. look at that snow. there are the current temperatures, 32 in marquette, 32 in alpena, but it will warm up. it is spring time. freeze advisories in effect. you want cookies inside? yeah, i'll come on. >> and bring your wheelbarrow. >> get your cookies. >> thanks, janice, 35 minutes after the hour. we need to get to stories making headlines. right now the second police officer shot in new hampshire has been released from the hospital. ian mcpherson is accused of shooting hardy in the face and torso after he was confronted about an earlier robbery.
the person then allegedly shot at another officer, matthew o'connor hitting him in the leg. the person is being held without bail on two counts of attempted capital murder. 11 people hurt in a fiery bus crash near animal kingdom. investigators say an suv driving the wrong way slammed into the bus near the theme park causing both vehicles to catch fire. two adults and one child riding in the suv were rushed to a hospital. eight other passengers had minor injuries. do you remember this from democratic congressman allen grayson? >> the republican health care plan is this, die quickly. that's right. the republicans want you to die quickly if you get sick. >> do they? really? >> the fiery liberal is going off on national tv now when confronted by ethics violations
with his own party. >> you have to start with correcting the record, joy. >> we're going to talk about the record. wait. hold on. >> exactly what harry reid tried to do. you're forcing a lot of bad facts and untruths into your questions and i have to stop you and correct you each time. that's what's actually happening. >> no, that's -- >> even democrat and senate minority leader said he hopes grayson loses in his bid for florida senate. talk about a bear claw, have you wondered what it would be like for the toy to come to life? [ screaming ] >> the chicago bears mascot pulled off a hilarious prank on unsuspecting children and buried himself among the toys and waited for the victims. those are your headlines. i mean, every time you try it,
you never get one anyway. they were probably surprised in the first place. >> something good came out of that game. clayton has entered the new york city subway and done so in the service of news. there's news out of the uk that hidden cameras rb placed on cameras to catch people putting feet on seats as they ride. what are you finding down there? >> reporter: i'm finding nothing -- >> so quiet on the weekend. >> reporter: it's so wonderful down here but it's so nasty, that what they are doing in england. if you're in new york city subways you won't see cameras anywhere. when you're inside these subway cars most of the time, people are sitting there doing disgusting things or eating a whole plate of general tso's chicken, which is delicious just not on a subway car. in england, people putting their feet on the seats, combing their hair, brushing their teeth, clipping fingernails. >> stop it, stop it.
>> reporter: with cameras -- who wants to do that? i don't want to see that stuff. >> i like the idea of what will result, probably people acting a little more polite and minding manners but at the same time having body cameras on their security officers to figure this out? it seems like we're 1984. >> reporter: i would like see security cameras catching the new york subway rats. that's disgusting when you're sitting on the platform. i can't even find anyone on the weekend because they are so scared to be down there. >> if there are cameras in subways -- >> reporter: i'll see if i can find people upstairs. >> should there be? do you have an explanation? >> it is a public place, different than having cameras in your homes -- >> but it's not your train. who will watch these cameras? new york city can't clean up the litter off the street or public
urination laws. do they have a massive staff of people watching cameras on every subway car? >> we have a jobs crisis. if i'm the guy that can watch and make sure people stop urine naturing on trains maybe i'll do that. let's see if i can find people up there. >> you're scaring people away. see if you can find any subway riders around times square. >> reporter: these guys do bus tours in new york city, let's see if they have disgusting behavior. do you have disgusting by haf yor, do people put their feet up, do you yell at them? >> no. >> reporter: they are too kind because they are giving new york city bus tours and don't like being -- zpl interviewed by panting news anchors. where are you guys from? >> germany. >> so out of breath. >> reporter: clean public transportation over there, right, buses and trains, pretty clean. what would you do if you saw someone putting their feet on the seats with their shoes off? >> we don't like it but it
happens. >> reporter: what if your government put cameras in all of the trains to make sure people weren't putting feet up, would that bother you? >> i don't think it's going to work. >> reporter: it wouldn't work? i guess see that's the consensus, cameras can't change behaviors. look at our tstudio, tucker. let's think about us, we have cameras inside our studio. >> and my behavior is better on the set -- >> on subways here in new york city, they have actual posters inside the trains that say things like if there's a woman who's pregnant sitting there, give up your seat or if there's an elderly -- common decency. people would do that any way but apparently not. >> good luck, clayton, i hope you get a rest after the stairs. >> grab me a jumbo pretzel. >> taking a stand against the white house which ordered all schools across the country to make transgender bathrooms.
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says he's going to withhold funding in schools do not follow. he can keep his 30 pieces of silver. we will not yield to blackmail. >> it's to ensure that our schools are as inclusive and respectful and safe as they can possibly be. >> the first clip was lieutenant governor of texas, dan patrick fighting against the obama adds mrgs after new guidelines saying all schools in country must have transgender bathrooms or lose federal funding.
joining us with his take, ken paxton. great to see you this morning. >> thanks for having me on. >> i'm confused by guidelines which are in effect in order because they don't explain what transgender mean. why do you think the white house has bothed to explain this term in its order to the states? >> that's a very good question. the entire policy is vague. it's also we believe unconstitutional because they don't have statutory authority or constitutional authority to change the statute. that was done by congress and it needs to be changed by congress. this needs to be a debate in congress, not with the administration just unilaterally changing the law. >> my understanding is the white house believes that your sex is whatever you say it is, obviously ignoring science and common sense and thousands of years of precedent. whatever you say it is, that's what it is. >> that's my understanding and obviously we're concerned -- i'm the chief law enforcement officer in my state.
my biggest concern is safety of children and women. if one child is harmed because of this policy, i have a concern. >> their position is that large numbers of transgender children are committing suicide every year, is that true? >> we haven't had stories of that here. it may have happened but it is not -- to me this is a solution in search of a problem. we have not had those calls to our office. we haven't had a big issue with what they are saying. i'm more concerned about constitutional issues and whether the president has the authority to change the law without any involvement of congress. >> or any public debate and confusion reigns. josh earnest said this about you, watch. >> for example, is the texas attorney general suggesting somehow that it would be practical to station a law
enforcement officer outside of every public bathroom in an educational facility and check people's birth certificates on the way in? >> he's accusing you of overreach. do you want to put a cop in every bathroom checking birth certificates? is that your plan? >> that's ridiculous. that's not the issue, that's a red herring. he's trying to avoid the real issue, they don't have the authority to change this. congress needs to debate this. if this is a change that needs to be made, they have the authority to do it. they have no authority to make this change. there's nothing in title 9 that allows this definition. so it really is -- this really is up to a legislative body. >> if you're a member of america's middle class, shrinking by every measure, does the order from the white house, does that speak to you and improve your life do you think? >> i can tell you just from this initially happened in ft. worth, i think kind of created this
issue. a suspect tried to put it in place without school board approval. we've gotten many calls from people in ft. worth and there's an effort in ft. worth by parents to stop this and potentially hold the superintendent accountable. i can tell you the people of texas are not for this. >> soliciting the opinion of parents, that never occurred apparently to the white house. attorney general paxton of the state of texas. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. i appreciate it. >> one model is coming under fire for her parenting technique. she and her husband leave her kids alone every weekend to spend time together. is it a good idea? we have a married couples panel that will debate it coming up. ♪
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hey, everybody. we want you to weigh in on this debate. rachel finch, an australian model, is under fire after revealing she and her husband leave their daughter with in-laws every weekend. finch is now having to defend herself on instagram. she posts, a mother should never be made to feel they are not good enough for their child when they're doing everything they can to keep them safe, happy and loved. only the parents of a child truly know what is best and should always have faith in their decision. does she have a point? joining us now, chris and lily, and shai and carol. thanks for being with us this
morning. people think if you're going to have kids, you have to put in the time, a 24-hour, 7-day-a-week job? >> i don't know about 24 hours, but you have to plan accordingly. the old life is not going to be the same. but there's going to be a whole new set of expectations and things you'll be able to to do together with this new life in your household. >> maybe not every weekend, but how modern is date night? >> date night is critical and getting away is critical. but want idea of getting away every weekend, it's like socialism, it sort of sounds good in theory but it has no basis in reality whatsoever. parenting is a hard job. quality time with your kids is so critical to their development. candidly, i'm a better person, the more time i get to spend with them. i think it's a well-rounded process. >> i think sometimes couples, once they have kids, some of my friends, you put the child as
priority number one, and then your relationship starts to lose, you know, and then what happens? >> i think going away every weekend is outrageous, who can manage that? even leaving the kids for a few hours with the grandparents every weekend is not the worst idea. people forget your relationship should come first. your kids will be happier that way. you have to take care of yourself. >> what do you think about social media judging parents in general? they don't know what the deal is in your relationship. >> absolutely. social media could be, you know, intrusive on an individual's relationship with their children. that's probably stepping over the bounds. >> next step is wedding scenes, so a lot of lives being merged together. it's tough when so and so forgets to put out the trash or put the cap back on the toothpaste or put the seat down on the toilet. can you change your spouse's
annoying habits? and you say? >> my point is, if you feel from the get-go that you've got to change the person you're marrying, maybe there's something to reconsider right there. so you make compromises together, you set new rules to it as a couple. if you're going in thinking i'm going to change him in this and this way, that's setting yourself up for failure. >> if pride or ego gets in the way of picking your underwear off the floor, you have much bigger problems than what we're talking about. a totally agree. >> how do you change those things? >> to be respectful of yourself, if you do have to ask them to pick stuff up from the floor, you're not barking at them, you're saying please and thank you. >> thank you so much for your time. still ahead on "fox & friends weekend," the "new york times" publishes what many are
calling a hit piece about donald trump's relationships with women. and a woman coming under fire for pumping iron past her due date. what do you think?
hey, everybody, good morning. it's sunday, the 15th of may, 2016. i'm anna kooiman. a main at a baseball game was hit with a flying bat. and donald trump against "the new york times"? the paper publishes a piece detailing his relationships with women. trump's response is just ahead. and beyonce wants her new clothing line to inspire women around the world. why is she using sweat shot labor? stunning new reports, just ahead.
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that. >> they're too dignified to do that. a fan at fenway park was injured by a broken bat that went flying into the stands. the man was hit in the hand during last night's red sox game against the houston astros. witnesses say the fan was sitting near the third baying dugout and never saw it coming. he was taken to the hospital, treated, and released. major league beautiful has previously suggested extending the netting at ball parks after a woman was hit last year, and another woman was hit in the face, both at fenway park. a red-hot chilly peppers member was taken to the hospital. the band was forced to cancel their irvine show, apologizing to the crowds, saying they were devastated. new reports say he is suffering
from stomach pains. no word if their next concert will be cancelled. democratic tensions boiling over in nevada. california senator barbara boxer responding to the gejeers, demanding a recount, saying we had our nevada caucus and hillary won. donald trump's favorite child is not ivanka trump but instead donald trump jr. city republican leaders have selected the billionaire's eldest son as a delegate to the party's convention. trump's other kids, i havanka a eric, did not register in time to be eligible. beyonce's clothing line
reportedly using sweat shop labor. she says she wants to empower woman but the workers in sri lanka earn just $8 for an entire day's work. those are your headlines. let's take it outside to find out about snow. >> let's talk to some people first. where are you from? >> i'm from florida. >> minnesota. >> i'm andy. >> i'm logan. >> what happened last week? >> logan asked me to marry him. >> where did that happen? >> in central park. he asked and i said sure. >> fantastic. congratulations. where are you from, sir? >> lewis park, pennsylvania. >> clinton, michigan. >> bonnie? >> from michigan. and this is you, young lady, are you celebrating something special today? >> not today. >> when, friday? >> friday of it it was my last. >> last what? >> birthday. >> no, it's not!
>> there will never be another one. did you do anything fun for your birthday? >> yeah, we came to manhattan. >> and you're on "fox & friends." >> that's right. >> do you want to say hello to anyone? >> hi, dad. >> your dad is at home too? >> no. >> welcome to new york, and happy birthday. this will not be your last, my friend. a quick look at the maps. he do have a little bit of cold air sinking in across the great lakes and northeast. it will warm up, i promise, at some point. we'll be complaining about the heat at some point. 42 in minneapolis, 44 in new york. we've got a little bit of snow in the upper great lakes. and then of course a little bit of rain over texas, which we are concerned about, because they've gotten flooded in the houston area. they had flood watches and warnings yesterday. we had more rain in your
forecast. you guys having fun today? did you have some chocolate chip cookies? i got more cookies. i got so much cookies, i'll be bringing them out all day long. >> janice, did she say she was celebrating her last birthday? >> this is not your last birthday, honey, they're worried about you in there. your last celebrated birthday. >> yeah. >> okay, okay. well, happy 25th. >> you're wonderful. i love you. >> you just tell the truth. god love ya, as the judge would say. i know somebody else who is celebrating a birthday tomorrow. >> not me. i'm ignoring it completely. >> he's going to be 39 years old forever. >> i've just turned 61. i had some work done.
attempts to recruit a third party candidate, someone to run against trump, with the full knowledge that this would elect hillary clinton, are still under way. it's being run by a couple of conservative pundits. people being interviewed for this include mitt romney, mark cuban. >> john kasich. >> people way more conservative than donald trump. >> that's the interesting thing. we've been lectured from day one that trump is not a conservative. that's true, he's not a conventional conservative. but the people talked about to run against him are even less conservative. >> they're having a hard time finding a candidate to say yes. >> they'll have to go to reality television to find him. >> trump's was a good show. >> you use your moral authority at that point, if you say trump is unacceptable, let's get mark cuban to do it.
>> it's hard to get on some of the ballots, the deadlines are quickly approaching, trying to find the funding for it. dr. ben carson was on the program earlier, he's a big sur owe ga sur suroggate for donald trump. >> we have a system in place that allows the will of the people to be expressed. now people come along and say, the people don't know what they're talking about, we're the ones who know who the nominee should be. i hope people are taking note of that. >> so in the same week that the administration try to force transgendered bathrooms on an america, pundits are trying to force a third candidate. >> "the washington post" cited people who said, no, absolutely not, john kasich saying no, we're done, mark cuban's people
saying, no, he's not interested. what is it based on, then? >> many thing hillary clinton would take the white house. there's even a small group that thinks they should find a third party candidate for some swing states to help republicans down the ballot. >> your grandkids will say to you, were you alive in 2016, was it as bonkers as it sounds? and you'll nod and say, yes, it really was crazy. "the new york times" of course loves donald trump, they've had a love affair for many years. here is the headline from "the new york times," crossing the line, how donald trump behaved with women in private. it's a lengthy piece that goes into great detail about his past, in college, being dubbed a lady's man in claby classmates, relationship stories about women
in bikinis. what have we learned? >> nobody out there is going to read this piece. it said that trump loves the ladies, is vulgar sometimes, has a pretty good record of promoting women in his companies. what does that add up to? nothing burger, in my opinion. >> you can imagine his critics are going to be pouncing on him, saying he's doing this just because she's a woman. he seems like an equal opportunity offender when he's saying offensive things to people, calling marco rubio little marco, making fun of rick perry because of his glasses. >> people have said to me over the years, why don't you lose weight, you're eating too much
candy. >> women want equal treatment, not special treatment. so pick one, right? >> donald fired back, he said, the failing "new york times" is writing another hit piece on me, why doesn't the failing "new york times" write the real story on the clintons and women? the media is totally dishonest. i'm sure, mr. trump, we'll see a lengthy piece on hillary clinton. >> i'm sure. >> they'll say, you're a sexist, a transgenderist. coming up, hillary clinton thinks she has the female vote in the bag. listen to what frank lutz found. is hillary overplaying her hand
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at pasadena, california. people who are watching right now can actually participate in the world record largest focus group. >> wow, that's a lot of opinions. i think i may be there. the whole point of the hillary clinton campaign, the rationale for the campaign, i'm a woman, vote for me as the first female president. is it working? >> it's working to some degree. the challenge for donald trump among women is that the number one issue they have about him is his persona, how aggressive he is. they don't like that. the number one problem for hillary clinton is corruption. and they don't like that either. the question women are going to decide is which bothers them more, the fact that donald trump speaks to people in a very aggressive way or the fact that you can't trust hillary clinton in what she says? she's got a clear, i want to be clear about this, her lead is 15, maybe even 20 points in some polls. but women have not made up their
minds yet and they don't like things like the clinton initiative, they don't like where she's taking her money, they don't like the e-mail scandal, they don't like that she doesn't say what she means and means what she says. it's up to trump to prove he can be civil and disciplined if he wants to win their vote. >> interesting. no one ever mentions the other side of the gender gap, which is of course men. hillary clinton is losing among men by a wider margin than trump is losing among women. why isn't that a newsworthy fact? >> it absolutely is. the states you should be looking at is pennsylvania. 60,000 democrats, revoted as republicans to cast votes for trump. take a look at michigan, a state that has elected a statehouse, state senate, and governor as a republican, that state could move. nevada, big working class population. those are three states that obama wouldn't both times, 2008 and 2012, all three of them are in play for donald trump because of working class men who are
frustrated and angry with washington. >> i will buy dinner for the first reporter who asks her why do you have a problem with men. someone needs to ask her. we've got tape from your most recent focus group where you asked female voters about hillary clinton. here is part of what they said. >> i want a word or phrase to describe hillary clinton. >> corrupt. >> deceiver. >> opportunist. >> when a politician appeals to you as a woman, what do you say back to them? >> i'm offended. i am a person. my gender really irrelevant in judging them or being treated. my degree is electrical engineering. i've worked in a male field. it was totally irrelevant. >> it shouldn't matter. i don't feel like i'm oppressed. don't treat me like a victim. >> i don't need hillary fighting for me. i'm fighting on my own. >> don't pander to women. >> it sounds like they feel patronized by the woman card she so openly is playing.
>> yes, but i have to balance it out. which is that their comments about donald trump are just as negative. in that group of 18 people, seven of them didn't want to vote for either candidate. we're seeing that all across the country. this is going to be the most negative campaign. we already have more than one out of five voters that doesn't want to cast a vote for either candidate. in the end it's going to be the lesser of two evils. >> the never trump question, a lot of people you and i know, long term conservatives in washington, are openly trying to put together a third party run that would, they know full well, in effect make hillary president. they're doing this because it will save the house and senate and keep true conservativism alive or whatever. will it protect downballot republican candidates? >> no. there's poll we just finished. the fact is that republican candidates who think they're
doing themselves good by distancing themselves from trump are actually committing political suicide. in the end, the trump voter expands the gop base. it takes conservatives, moderates, and independents who are fed up with washington and gives the republican party a shot at about 60% of the electorate. if, however, they say i don't want trump's support, i don't back him, they're losing those people. moderate conservatives, people in the center, who hate washington, they're losing that vote. it could actually cost them not just the senate, tucker, but the house as well. >> that's right, you can't run away from your own party. >> correct. >> dr. frank luntz, soon to be a guinness book of world records holder, thanks for joining us this morning. >> go to politicon, june 25th, hope to see you there. >> i'll see threw, yyou there, buy the drinks. coming up, he traded his
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all the way over the fence! green wherein way high school senior matt mcdonald knocking it out of the park on the very first pitch. it was actually his very first home run in his career, period. joining us now, matt mcdonald and his coach and tyler's mother. good morning, thanks for being with us. >> thank you for having us. >> coach, i'm going to start with you. what gave you the idea to start using these helmets in the first place and try to make sure that your team plays like tyler pruitt? >> it's just one helmet. the helmet is used for getting foul balls during the game. it's always a task that players don't usually like to do. they would rather be on the field. it's one of those things that it's a tedious task. we decided to make this helmet a
camouflage helmet and put tyler's initials on it, and kind of explain to the kids sacrifice, doing things for somebody else. and he was the ultimate exam of that. so we used that for that, originally. >> johni, your son made the ultimate sacrifice, we're sore for your loss. we're sure it was tough for you to even think about going back to the baseball field that night for the first time in more than a decade. when you saw that helmet come out of the dugout and go to the mound, that's going through your mind? >> i didn't know anything about the helmet. i had a friend that invited me to the game. she goes, you've got to come and see what all they do for tyler and his memory. i didn't know anything about it until it was all said and done. it was very exciting. >> i can only imagine. matt, you're the first guy to wear the helmet, i imagine you're probably feeling pretty nervous. what's going through your mind at that point? >> i was really nervous.
i didn't want to mess up, wearing the helmet, you know. i just went up there and took a deep breath. >> and do you even remember hitting the ball? >> i actually don't remember hitting the ball. but i remember watching it, and then i saw it go over the fence. i was in disbelief of what just happened. >> do you think that tyler brought you good luck and the helmet brought you good luck? >> i think he did. i think he was watching over me that night. >> coach, why is it that you have his initials painted on the clubhouse too? >> we use tyler as an example, a couple of times a year, when things maybe aren't going well or we need to talk about discipline or character or sacrifice. it's just a constant reminder, when the kids leave our locker room, our clubhouse, they touch the t.p. on the wall. it's something we've been doing for years now, just to kind of honor him and make sure that his memory is never forgotten.
>> mom, that helmet was used initially to shag balls, there's a chore for players to do. how good does it make you feel to know your son's memory lives on and is cared about and revered so much? >> it's just been really overwhelming and humbling. they had an "honor tyler" night. the most exciting thing for me was that my grandson, who is 5 years old, is named tyler pruitt, and he got to throw out the first pitch. then it occurred to me, it occurred to me that he was the age of all the team of players now, when tyler was killed, they were all like his age, 5 years old. and to see how the memory and the tradition and the honor has, you know, kept up through the years, it's just really been touching. >> and matt, as a player, would you encourage other teams to do
things like that, to honor even military members who went on and not gave the ultimate sacrifice but are serving our nation and doing such great things, other high schools and colleges, to do the same thing? >> yeah, i would. it's a great thing to do. and just to honor the military people who sacrifice themselves, says the great honor to have and to do. >> all right, matt, matt, and joani, thank you so much for your time today and for bringing us a little bit piece of history. we're glad we could share it with our viewers as well. have a great sunday. >> thank you. coming up on "fox & friends weekend," a brand-new documentary comes at the worst possible time for hillary clinton. an inside look at the film focusing on disgraced congressman anthony weiner and his wife, clinton aide huma abedin.
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[ cheers and applause ] >> aww. >> we're sending huge congratulations to one of our very best producers and former writers, a.j. hall and nicole pagano. they got engaged in times square last night. >> wow. >> i am thrilled for them. >> they met right here on "fox & friends" and a.j. popped the question on the big screen in times square and managed to get the whole thing on video. >> no one knew about this, she didn't know that that was coming. they were surrounded by friends and family for the special moment. congrats again for a.j. i've been here nine years. he's been on this show and a great team member. nicole, a great writer, had left. now they're getting married. she's over at the "daily mail" now. >> a.j. is responsible for our summer bands series. he told me about the epic plan, how he was going to manage to
pull this thing off. he's putting everybody else to shame, not just popping the question like my husband did. we were on the road, covering the new york primary, whatever, he's telling me how he's going to get her boss to get in on it and all her friends and this whole e-mail chain, telling her they were going to dinner, then that they have to go to times square to watch a promo that he was part of producing, and he end up being on the big screen. >> this is the best segment he ever produced. >> good luck topping that one, a.j. >> how many weddings have we done? >> a lot, we've brought a lot of love to a lot. we are now hearing the 911 call that led to the capture of boston marathon bomber
starneyev. >> there's blood all over the boat. >> within three minutes, police arrived at the man's home, arresting tsarneyev. today marks one year since he was sentenced for the deaths. more news about huma abedin and her husband, former congressman anthony weiner. >> what is wrong with you? >> married to one of hillary clinton's closest advisers. >> the movie follows weiner's failed complain for new york city mayor and highlightsab a e abedin's humiliation over her husband's scandal. the documentary hits theaters on friday. "the new york post" reports a new trend in the big apple were parents with deep pockets
are hiring help to get their kids' homework done. a 27-year-old freelance writer talks about parents paying him up to $350 per paper. parents say it's a small price to pay to help reduce some of the stress on their children. a lot of comment this morning, nine months pregnant and still lifting. this fitness instructor is under fire after continuing to work out while pregnant. she is overdue and still has been lifting 200 pound weights. she says she and her doctor are both on top of it. >> honestly, it seems a little taboo and it's different and not the normal. everything that i'm doing currently is modified. lower weight than normal. he says there is no one prescription for pregnancy. and that's always been in the back of my mind. he says, listen to your body and just know that your body is going to tell you where and when
you cannot do something. >> she says she's taken time off from working out in the past along the way to make sure both she and the baby are healthy. 37 minutes after the hour. janice is out and about with what's making news in the weather world. >> congratulations to a.j. and his lovely bride-to-be, best video ever. where you are from? >> henderson from texas. >> a big anniversary. >> 50th. >> 50th, everybody. happy birthday. >> where are you from? >> ft. worth, texas. >> are you here with your daughters? >> yes. >> want to say anything to anybody at home? >> hello. i can't believe it. >> you guys like clayton morris
on a bike? >> who wouldn't? america asked for it, we responded. it's time to ditch the family car for a bike. our next guest makes it his mission to partner with people with the new pedal power. i've had a chance to try these bikes out, they're amazing. joining me is the ceo of unibikes. nice to see you this morning. how did you come up with this idea to put some power behind bikes? >> you know, i've always wanted to make the bikes more useful and being able to carry things. when one does that, sometimes they require replacing your car, when you go to the grocery store or school, it's not to have an electric model. >> this is the all terrain. >> this is a cargo bike. you can carry stuff, right around town or deliver things with. >> i don't want to get in a crash. why am i getting this extra
power? what is it doing? >> basically it rides like a regular bicycle. at the same time you can carry multiple kids, you can carry groceries, it can carry tools or sporting equipment. >> i can put some kids on the back of this. >> absolutely. >> i also have attachments, i can put a car seat on here too. >> correct. you can carry the kids to day-care. this one specifically is an all-terrain model, people can ride offroad or in the city. >> what about this one? >> in africa these are bicycle taxis, people use them to carry goods, carry passengers, if you want to hitch a ride. this one is particularly for a woman, that's dual frame. >> i feel more comfortable on this bike, oddly. >> a more upright position. and this bike can carry two kids, for instance, and up to
about 330 pounds cargo. >> really? so if i have a pretty heavy holiday meal, i'll still be good to go, at 320 pounds. >> exactly. i've carried about 400 pounds, with a lot of things. >> i had a chance to test out the spicy curry. is this really the cadillac of these bikes? >> the spicy curry is the cadillac of electric bikes. this one is electric. the other bikes were not electric. this is powered by a motor near your shoes overthere. >> i thought there was no way. i can go up a steep hill, get power assist, how is this working? >> the basically there's a motor and a battery. and the motor is powered by the battery. you can climb a hill 20 or 25%, with cargo. >> how long does the battery last? >> about 30 miles. >> it's amazing. once you start using it, you can
actually adjust the tension, really. so a little assist or a lot of assist, right? >> that is correct. you can decide if you want a little help. it's still an effort, if you want to have an effort, it's still athletic. but if you want the assist and not sweat on your way to work with your kids on the back, you can use the assist. >> we've got a little bike for kids. tell us about this one. >> this is a balanced bike. >> we hear about how training wheels are terrible for kids. >> exactly. with a cargo twist, they can carry things in the basket. >> how can people learn more? >> go to our website online, or visit local dealers. here in new york city, in brooklyn. if you go on yubabikes.com, you'll be able to see our dealer list. >> thank you, benjamin. tucker, anna, see you next
weekend. >> thanks, clayton. coming up, a financial crisis in puerto rico. and most mainland americans don't think it will affect them. they could be wrong. maria bartiromo says, wow, this is a big deal, she joins us next. but also dogs. we have some friends out here. i'm getting kisses right now! >> aww. everything is better with puppies and babies. if it's time to hit the road with your family, we're going to show you ways to keep your pup safe on your next adventure, coming up.
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solution for the long tsa lines. add more dogs. the new york democrat says using k-9 teams could cut the wait times in half. a u.s. air force veteran turns nurse earns as top horn. she joins us on the curvy couch to tell us why a charity event had her shaving her head. >> my patients loved that i shaved my head. a lot of them lose their hair when they get chemotherapy. i decided to leave my hair this way. >> she put off her dream of being a nurse while serving in the air force for 20 years. the hospital corporation of america gave her the first ever humanitarian award for exemplary service. in puerto rico, a dismal scene amid massive government
debt. >> puerto rico will never be able to pay off its debt. maria bartiromo says their crisis could affect us here at home. good to see you. >> good to see you, thanks so much. >> what are the reverberations inside the united states? >> if you look at puerto rico, you can see a microcosm of what's going on across the country in the u.s., given the debt load here. we're talking about $70 billion in puerto rico. they've made too many promises, basically, that now people have sort of ious like we have here and they can't pay it. what the implications of that? how about 11.5% unemployment? sales tax, almost 12%. so you've got this rush to now try hard to raise revenue in order to pay back debt. and they will not be able to. the implication for the u.s., if we do not have an aid to puerto
rico of some sort, many people in puerto rico will clearly come to the mainland here. then you have all of these new people, new demand for jobs, for services, which of course we're already strained. >> and what lesson can we learn? >> clearly you don't want to run up debt like that, because something's got to give at some point. we always have this conversation about the u.s. is $19 trillion in debt and the fact that once interest rates start rising, just managing that debt is going to be so much more modeimportan. that's why we talk about entitlements, what the sucking sound is, sucking that money and running up all this debt. at the end of the day, you're talking about high unemployment, high taxes, a scramble to pay back the debt. we look at puerto rico and we see this is actually real. >> you're show is up 11 minutes from now, after us. >> we'll talk about paul ryan to talk about this whole unity
thing on the republican side after the paul ryan and trump meeting. we've got revenue deb fisher, she was in the room, she'll be joining us to give us the timing on this and whether or not the republicans will be able to get together. my sense is yes. they're going to talk with a a from the trump campaign. talking to steve moore. obviously, he's donald trump with a tax plan. >> ten minutes on fox news channel, the great maria bartiromo. >> thank you. next, is your dog planning a summer vacation? we have the gear to keep him safe. stay tuned for that.
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fox news coming up. >> eric holder heading to ferguson today to help the investigation, but is he the right guy for the job? >> things racial, we have always been and we, i believe, continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards. >> in ferguson today are we a nation of cowards? we report, you decide. because mornings are better with friends. ♪ ♪ >> welcome aboard, folks. live from studio e here on this wednesday. good morning, elisabeth. >> peter johnson jr., good morning to you. we thank you for joining us this morning. we're going to get right to that fox news alert. an horrific video, isis militants beheading kidnapped american journalist james foley. now the militants promising more bloodshed if their demands are not met. we're live in washington
where u.s. officials have broken down the video frame by frame. lee land, have they indeed confirmed the authenticity and what do we know at this point? >> reporter: we are hearing from u.s. officials by the associated press that they believe this video to be authentic. james foley worked as a journalist reporting from syria for a company called global post. he disappeared in november 2012. this is a still frame from the video in question. isis posted the video on-line. u.s. officials told the associated press they believe the tape to be authentic. in the tape foley appears wearing prison orange, hands down behind him, kneeling next to a bin laden clad militant -- a black clad militant. he gives a statement apparently written by his statement saying he is being killed because of the u.s. airstrikes in iraq. then he is executed. some say this video should mark a turning point in u.s. policy.
>> we have to be taking severe military action. i'm not talking about a lot of boots on the ground. the afghan model we used to defeat the taliban in 42 days can be used. the dam has been taken back. frankly, the kurds have proven to be a good ally. we do have the ability to start walking back isis. we can't wait. >> foley's family has asked for privacy while they mourn. his mother issued a statement on facebook saying in part we have never been prouder of our son jim. he gave his life trying to expose the world to the suffering of the syrian people. we implore the kidnappers to spare the lives of the remaining hostages. like jim, they are innocent. in the video isis says if the u.s. attacks against the terror group continue they will execute another american hostage seen here, a man from miami. as for a u.s. response to all this, president obama left washington yesterday to resume his vacation but we expect to hear from him
later today about foley's murder. >> thank you for that. we'll stay with you throughout the morning. horrific news. >> just the worst. there are pictures like this and worse on the covers of the new york tablets today with the headlines saf sadges. there he is, james wright foley. who is he? a 40-year-old guy from new hampshire, he was a teacher, a reporter. he worked in hot zones around the world including the middle east, syria, iraq and libya where he was kidnapped in april of 2011. after he was released, he sat down with bill o'reilly to talk about what happened in libya in 2011. listen. >> qaddafi's guys come and take you captive. they put you in the truck and where do they take you? >> they took us to a safe house, a house they occupied, tied us up and told us you're going to go
to tripoli. when we were initially captured, struck with the butt of an ak-47, punched. very young soldiers, very aggressive. but once we were actually captured, the tensions calmed way down. >> did they interrogate you? >> they interrogated me for six hours initially and that was, kind of felt like a mind game. one guy would be playing kind of good cop. one guy would come in yelling and saying we think you're a spy. and eventually you figured out, look, i've just got to stick to my story, make sure i tell the absolute truth that i'm a journalist. >> that is absolutely heartbreaking. that is who isis decapitated and posted on youtube. the youtube has taken down. it was horrifying. nonetheless they say it is in retaliation for the airstrikes where we were trying to save those people on the mountain. now, peter, it looks like they're threatening if we don't stop, they're going
to cut -- >> it is a transforming moment for people who don't understand isis. last night ralph peters was on the hannity talking about how isis is worse in a lot of ways than al qaeda. >> the only correct response to this kind of atrocity would be to hit islamic state targets, strategic targets, and hit them massively in what used to be syria, in what used to be iraq. punish them. it won't stop them from their brutality, their monstrous behavior. but this is a fight to the death and our president and the governing elite of our country, including too many republicans, refuse to come to grips with the gravity, with the deep, powerful, profound nature of this threat that does menace americans. as far as brutality goes, they are far worse than al qaeda. al qaeda, as monstrous as it was, had some ethical
standards by their own standards. these people are just butchers. >> a fox news official said isis is completely different. it said isis does not need a cache to fund operations because of its limited control of oil fields. we need to conclude the decapitation of foley by isis -- we don't need to step back, we need to step up. we need to pay now or we'll pay a lot more later. >> do you think, does anybody really understand the situation in iraq think that this group is not coming after us, is not coming after the west, is not coming after muslim moderates? they have said that. they made that very clear. frankly, megyn, i know all about the war weariness.
i'm tired of war myself but this may be a question of pay now or pay later and paying later may be a much higher bill. >> there the question today, dos that terrorize america, does that galvanize america? does that make america afraid or inspire america to act consistent with our principles and consistent with the memory of this man who his mother said gave his life. it really is an american hero. do we recognize that or do we kind of ignore that as "the new york times" said this morning at the bottom of the front page, a front-page story worldwide but buried at the bottom of the "new york times." do we recognize the problem and take it on or do we bury our head in the sand? >> so many people have tuned out. we're tired of the war. well, this is real. there is no doubt. and now this is our fight. what's our next move? stand by. i'm sure we're going to hear from the white house later on today. also michael hayden who
used to run the c.i.a. will be with us at 7:20 this morning. he knows better than anybody what the threat is really like. >> ainsley earhardt joins us as well. you have the very latest in headlines. >> we're going to start with alaska's primary election. while you were sleeping a winner was declared in the closely watched republican senate primary race. the state's former attorney general and marine officer dan sullivan will face the democratic incumbent senator mark begich in the fall. sullivan beat out joe miller and lee treadwell with 40% of the vote. treadwell conceding overnight after maintaining third place. alaska being closely watched because this race could determine who controls the current democratic-controlled senate. cold-hearted and very chilling, that is how police are describing it would california teenagers that were arrested for planning to shoot up their school. cops confirm the teens in pasadena were researching
guns, bullet-proof vests and bomb making techniques on-line. they were plotting their attack in detail on social media until a community member told the school and told police. a teenager in critical condition this morning after being struck by lightning during a football practice at a middle school in new mexico. three other players and a coach were also hit. >> he was crying and one was laying on the floor. he went unconscious. >> the lightning hit a treep and became grounded. >> it looks like a stunt straight out of the movies. pretty dramatic; right? steve, i can hear you yelling what? dramatic video of a biker crashing into the rear end of another vehicle. miraculously he lands on his feet and he survives that accident. there you go.
>> clint eastwood back in the day. thank you. >> ten minutes past the top of the hour. coming up, some view the michael brown shooting in ferguson as cut and dry in terms of its case. surely there is enough evidence; right? how the c.i.a. culture is influencing our views on the investigation up next. >> one coach's speech sounds like something straight out of a movie. >> but this speech you're going to hear shortly making headlines. comes from the losing coach. it's something you're going to want to hear. >> from my home state. >> i know it. as we roll on live from new york city. thanks for joining us. chico's leggings. ♪ every style's a showstopper! with fabrics that flatter and prints to go wild for. legs look longer, you look leaner. any way you wear them. chico's leggings. we're famous for our legs. at chico's and chicos.com.
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a fox news alert. overnight tensions reaching a boiling point again in ferguson and all it took was one flying water bottle to shatter the evening calm. >> we're live on the ground with new information from officers at the scene. good morning, garrett. >> good morning. police officers say last night was actually an improvement from what they've seen the previous night. protesters were throwing water bottle filled with urine at officers, not the molotov cocktails we've seen last night. police officers responded not with tear gas but with limited amount of pepper
spray. captain ron johnson says this is a turning point and he credits community leaders who stepped in to separate the police and many of the protesters that were becoming a little bit more unruly. this is all meanwhile attorney general eric holder is preparing to arrive here in ferguson today to check in on the federal investigation and into civil rights violation. today also the grand jury is expected to begin hearing evidence to determine whether or not the officer involved in the shooting of michael brown will be charged in that case. back to y'all. >> all right. thank you. >> elisabeth? >> thanks, guys. meanwhile the governor of missouri released a controversial statement last night. >> ten days ago a police officer shot and killed michael brown in broad daylight. we have a responsibility to come together and do everything we can to achieve justice for this
family, a vigorous prosecution must now be pursued. the democratically elected st. louis county prosecutor and the attorney general of the united states each have a job to do. their obligation to achieve justice in the shooting death of michael brown must be carried out thoroughly, promptly, and correctly. >> joining me now, former homicide detective and fox news contributor, rod wheeler. rod, in hearing that, it sounds as if nixon has already played the role of judge, jury, and really offered a guilty verdict for this officer's actions and future. do you hear that? >> absolutely. you know, elisabeth, i've been wondering why does this governor continue to fuel the fire of the events going on out there in ferguson. this police officer has rights as well. look, we don't know what happened that day. none of us was there, including the governor. we know he wasn't there because he didn't even
arrive in ferguson until four days after the situation erupted. how can he say we're going to vigorously pursue prosecution when he doesn't even know all of the elements in terms of what happened in this case? it sounds to me like this governor has already concluded that this police officer should be prosecuted and not only prosecuted but convicted. and i think that's just sending a horrific message to law enforcement not only there in ferguson and st. louis, but throughout the state of missouri and throughout the country. and i hope that police officers by way of the police union push back on that statement that that governor made. >> will they indeed? in hearing that, will officers in terms of their future actions, will they govern themselves based on this sort of expedited verdict? >> you know, i hope they don't. let me tell you, elisabeth, as a police officer myself for many, many years, i can tell you 99.9% of police officers on the streets of the united states, they do the right they think.
they try to make the best decisions they can. we have a split second sometimes to make a critical decision as to whether or not we're going to pull that trigger. this governor has had nine days to come out nothis thing is we're going to prosecute. i hope officers continue to do the right thing that they have always done and that justice prevails not only for the officer but for the family of michael brown. we need to vigorously pursue justice, not vigorously pursue a prosecution. >> do you think the c.s.i. culture is really forcing this rushed judgment here not just from the governor, but also -- emotions are high there, you know. this young man's life mattered to a lot of people. it should. every life taken matters. but is this culture of solving the crime within an hour, with a few commercial breaks forcing this judgment really? >> i think it is. i think that -- obviously that's not helping the situation. you see what happens is, you know, like you said, we live in a c.s.i. culture.
people expect these things to be investigated quickly and someone brought to justice or someone prosecuted. the reality is this. whenever you have a homicide or a death investigation, it can take anywhere from two to six weeks. that is not to say it is going to be drawn out intentionally but you have to wait for reports, get all the witness statements. you want to do the right thing for both sides so it can take awhile. in today's environment people seem like they want an answer and they want it within 24 hours. >> rod wheeler, always great to have you here. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, elisabeth. >> you got it. coming up, they're on hunger strikes so you have to pay extra. the shocking tab the taxpayers are footing to ensure gitmo detainees are well fed. and you can earn $100,000 to go vote? one major city handing out surprises to get people to go vote. is this an insult to
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24 minutes past the hour. some quick headlines for you now. the administration says it will give travelers on its no-fly list a way to appeal and get off the list. a federal judge ruled the current policy unconstitutional. the changes will start over the next six months. the v.a. still up to old tricks. a new report revealing a medical center in georgia improperly botched more than 600 appointments. more than 600 patients did
not receive care. >> the government is spending more than $300,000 for nutritional supplements to feed detainees at guantanamo bay. >> with less than one-fourth of voters showing up for municipal elections, the city of los angeles is considering a new incentive to get people to the polls. cash prizes, maybe up to $100,000, i say in my best game show voice. meanwhile is this really the best way to get americans to vote or is this an insult to democracy? here to debate is los angeles commission president and attorney troy slin top. who would this work? >> in los angeles we are facing a crisis.
we had over $65 million spent in 2013 for the elections yet approximately 21% of the renalsters voters showed up -- of the registered voters showed up to vote. it has been deemed a crisis by the los angelescommission anp with an innovative solution to study and consider which involves having a drawing of approximately $100,000 of prizes divided into anywhere from 100 to four different prizes in order to incentivize people to vote. we're not telling them how to vote, who to vote for, what to vote for, but the drawing by submitting a ballot through absentee or on the day election voting. >> troy, if it is a federal election, this would be illegal because you can't pay money to show up and vote at an election. what is your biggest problem with this? >> it is an affront to democracy. he said that this is a
crisis in los angeles. it's certainly not a crisis in the words of rahm emanuel, never let a good crisis go to waste. what this is going to do is disproportionately attract lower socioeconomic, traditionally democratic voters to come out and vote when they may know nothing about the issues, about the candidates. and this would only be legal in california and alaska. all federal elections and 48 other states deemed this exact type of thing would be illegal. >> nathan, what about troy's point that you've got to worry about the quality of the voter. somebody shows up, they never voted before, but i hear i could win $100,000. they have no idea what the issues are on the ballot, don't know what they're voting for. >> the assumption is people are uninformed and stay uninformed and i believe that assumption is wrong. people are actually getting the information through their e-mail, through the social media, in the
mailbox, on tv. if they know they're not going to vote they're not going to pay attention to that information. but if they know they're going to show up and cast a vote studies have shown they will pay attention to that information and over time whether it is the fiscal time they do it or they get moo the pattern of voting, over time that will become an informed vote. >> troy, i'm going to give you the final word. >> i'd rather have an informed 10% of the electorate come out and vote than 50% or 80% who really aren't informed and are just coming to pick up a check. >> for our viewers watching, e-mail us. what do you think about this proposal where somebody could win to vote out in los angeles? troy slaten from los angeles, nathan hochman, l.a. commissions president, we thank you for getting up early to come out for the debate -- discussion. 29 minutes after the hour. more on had a final interview -- more on that final interview with james foley. what he said to our own bill o'reilly is chilling.
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orange jump suit forced to deliver a prepared anti-american statement written by his captors. >> isis now threatening to kill another american captive unless the president stops his airstrikes. president obama decided not to make a statement last night. >> he's pictured, as you can see right there, and so is another american they are threatening to kill, in those orange jump suits similar to what gitmo detainees wore, also similar to the won worn by nick byrd, the american businessman kidnapped in 2004 and executed by isis as well. it also evokes images of daniel pearl. we're going to talk about that in a moment. you see these still images of james wright foley there. he actually visited the fox news channel back in 2011 because he was at one point that year kidnapped by the libyans. he sat down with bill
o'reilly after he was sprung and talked about that captivity. and hearing from his mother. >> how long were you there all together in captivity? >> 44 days. >> that's a long day. they let you make a couple of calls. >> they let me make one call to my mother and after that a tremendous feeling of relief. >> let her know you're alive. >> right. first time i heard the rest of the world knew about me. >> you've been to iraq, afghanistan, libya. what is the most dangerous place? >> libya. these u.s. troops are not trained there. >> your heart stops watching him there. absolutely infuriating. >> he was kidnapped a year and four months after that interview and been held for the last two years. november 2012 he was captured. >> it brings us back to daniel pearl who was executed by al qaeda. his family actually reached
out to "fox & friends" extending their condolences right here and we're going to read this for you now. they said we send our deepest condolences to his family. we know what they are going through and are available if we can be of any help in their time of need. we hope the civilized world takes more seriously the growing threat of terrorism and the ideology. that is a strong message coming from the pearl family. >> "the wall street journal" reporter beheaded by khalid sheikh mohammed back in early 2002. >> about 12 years ago. >> regarding the authentication, the u.s. government says they have no reason to believe it's not real. what's interesting is in the video there is a man wearing a mask, and he is speaking english with a british accent. reportedly, according to "the washington post" this
morning, intel officials are comparing the voice of the executioner with known voices of people who have been held in gitmo and also people who they feel joined isis. >> we will continue to bring you details as those pour in. meanwhile ainsley joins us with headlines. >> thank you so much. tragedy hit pope francis's family. his nephew's wife and two children killed in a car crash in argentina. the accident happening as his nephew's family was returning home. their car smashing into a truck. a vatican spokesperson release this had statement. all who share in his grief to uniti with him in prayer. >> beer buyers beware. bottles of corona extra being recalled now. listen to this. there could be glass in those beer bottles. the recall includes 12 ounce clear bottles sold in
the six, 12 and 18 packs. to see if you have those beers in your refrigerators, the codes are on our website now. there are too many to list. frantic moments for the parent of a five-year-old little boy. he wandered off after school and walked home a mile alone. the boy's father went to the school to pick him up down in florida, an elementary school there, but his son was nowhere to be found. >> they kept telling me maybe he's here, maybe he's in this other place. i'm waiting, like 40 minutes went by and nothing. >> meanwhile his young son was waiting outside of their home. the school district says in a statement they're refusing their dismissal procedures. >> one of the most inspiring sports speeches courtesy of the losing team. >> we got down to the nitty-gritty. we're one of the best teams in the world. i love you guys and i love you forever. you've given me the most precious moments, okay, of
my athletic and coaching career and i've been coaching a long time. >> every parent would love to have that coach for their child. that is the coach of rhode island little league consoling his players after a heart breaking loss to chicago in the little little world series. >> one of the best speeches. >> the little boy is crying. it is so sad for them. >> tears in my eyes watching it. my home state there. they did a great job. good coach. thanks, ainsley, for sharing that with us. >> 22 minutes before the top of the hour. severe flooding hitting arizona. here in new york city, it is bone dry. maria molina joins us right now from outside our world headquarters. >> we saw flash flooding yesterday across portions of arizona and i want to share this video with you because it is incredible the amount of flooding we saw out here. locally we picked up more than four inches of rainfall in some of these areas especially north of the city of phoenix.
people had to be rescued from their cars, as you can see on your screen. and there are drought conditions out here. that is what helped to produce the flash flooding. you've got this heavy rain we do need but too much in a short amount of time starts to produce flash flooding. some people having to be rescued from their homes as you can see on your screen. today there is a chance for additional showers and storms not only across portions of arizona but also into parts of new mexico. across the northern plains we also expect storms. out here we have the spobt of seeing tornadoes -- we have the possibility of seeing tornadoes today. large hail and damaging winds will be possible especially during the afternoon and evening hours, parts of south dakota, northwestern iowa, you have that potential today. temperatures wise, a hot one across the southeast, the plains. and it is going to be a hot one but take a look at some of these highs. 97 in phoenix and dallas. those are your actual high temperatures.
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a fox news alert. attorney general eric holder heading to ferguson, missouri, today to meet with federal law enforcement investigating the michael brown shooting. this as details begin to emerge in the federal autopsy of brown's body which is the third being performed on michael brown. it is an unusual step taken by the federal government. what exactly is the department of justice looking for? joining us is forensic expert and attorney jennifer barringer. good morning. what is this about? we have one autopsy by st. louis county, another by the great michael baden, one of the greatest medical examiners in the world. and now the federal government says we're doing it. what's that about? why is that happening? and is that common? >> very uncommon in fact.
i imagine that due to the epic failures of the local authorities in the area to quell the protesters and in general because there's been no candor, no release of the autopsies prior to this, basically they need someone to go in that will be a seemingly neutral body, a federal body that can go in and do the autopsy. although as you said, michael baden is probabl the best in the world; he was hired by the family. >> is this done in one sense for appearances? is this done to quell folks to, say, listen, the feds are involved, we're doing an autopsy. or based on your experience as a forensic expert, is there some particular information that can be gained that wasn't gained in the first two? >> i wish i could say that was the case. i think it's for appearance more so. i thought it was specifically telling that attorney general holder wanted to review the original state autopsy, which to me is very indicative of he feels this may be a problem with bias.
>> in new york, i took a case all the way to the court of appeals about the medical examiner's right and their obligation to tell a family about death results. that became a big issue here in ferguson. they allegedly didn't tell the family what the results were of the autopsy. right? wrong? mistake? not a mistake? what effect does it have? >> massive mistake. in fact it may have been the real impetus for this because you've got a family in crisis and they're not telling the family how many times their son has been shot, if he suffered, if he was dying for a long period of time. they know nothing. they end up having to call michael baden in who is fantastic and does it for them and does answer those questions. why not give the answers to those questions? what could be the reason for keeping that quiet? >> a lot of good information from you, jennifer. we'll have you back soon. a grand jury allegedly meeting today and it could go on for several weeks.
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now we've got some stories making political news on this wednesday morning. that obamacare tax on the sale medical devices, apparently it's not making enough money for the government. the tax helps pay for obamacare. the government audit reveals thousands of companies aren't paying it, mostly because there is no consequences if they don't. they're not going to pay it 'cause nobody is going to catch them apparently. remember this guy, david plouffe was the campaign manager that helped get president obama elected back in 2008 and reelected? well now he's greasing a different set of wheels. he's joining uber, the fancy taxi limo service as the senior vice president in charge of strategy. he's set to start in late september. he's going to help with politics. speaking of politics, congressman charlie rangel gets a court date in his lawsuit against his colleagues who censured him. he claims the house failed to give him due process when they
investigated him. and that's the news. >> sure is. texas governor rick perry gets booked on felony, quote, abuse of power charges and vows to fight them, thumbing his knows at criminal charges. anna kooiman joins us live with his firey speech. hey, anna. >> good morning to everyone. in clearing his innocence, governor rick perry greeted by cheers as he showed up at the travis county courthouse in austin, texas. turning himself in, he had his fingerprints and his mug shot taken. the governor is facing two felony charges of abuse of power. he was indicted by a grand jury last friday on charges he abused his office and tried to customers an elected official to resign. he's accused of abusing his power when he vetoed funds going to a county prosecutor's unit that investigates public corruption. the 2012 gop presidential candidate with potential 2016 aspirations promised to fight
those charges. >> this indictment is nothing short of an attack on the constitutional powers of the office of governor. i'm going to fight this injustice with every fiber of my being. and we will prevail! >> a short time after all this, the governor tweeted this picture of himself enjoying an ice cream cone. and now governor perry is set to be arraigned on friday. but it's not clear whether he will be there in court for that process because he's also scheduled to be in new hampshire meeting with conservative groups as he waits the -- weighs the potential of running in 2016. >> thank you so much. wow. he did look good. that was the ultimate thing, that the mug shot looked great. >> his much better than the woman who is the district attorney for travis county. it was her office essentially that brought these charges
against him. what he had done was this, she, and i'm talking about rose mary lehmberg -- she was caught and convicted of drunk driving. she was super drunk. >> let guilty in 2013. >> her blood alcohol level was three times the legal limit. and the governor said if she doesn't resign because she is obviously unfit to be a public servant, checking on the ethics of other people, then i'm going to veto the money that funds her unit. well, she didn't quit and he vetoed the money. peter, isn't that just politics? isn't that how it works? >> that's going to be the argument and there will be a motion to dismiss and he's compiling some of the best lawyers in america that it's a totally political determination and that he's got a right under the constitution and the state law of texas to do exactly what he did. he looked self confident and happy and looks like he's undeterred and unbowed by this. he's having an ice cream cone. and it looks like he's part of a
campaign. this lawsuit, this trial, this felony trial that put him in jail for many, many years -- >> five to 99 years. >> yes, absolutely. has energized him in many ways. i've never seen him look so self confident or aggressive or self-assured about who he is and what he's done. all i did was exercise the powers that i have as governor of the state of texas and that this office that brought it historically has brought political prosecutions. >> many people speaking up, david axelrod saying there is not much there. time will tell. many have also said that this may strengthen him moving into 2016. >> he looks like a strong, effective leader in the face of an indictment, which is rare. >> he got his mug shot yesterday. we should all look so good in our mug shots.
>> hope not. >> i hope not to have one. >> me, too. peter johnson, jr. can take care of it for all of us. >> i'm happy to represent you any time. >> four minutes before the top of the hour. coming up, continuing coverage of a fox news alert. terrible news. isis terrorists executed apparently a and beheaded an american journalist and promising more american death also come. pete hegseth to explain what their goal is and how our president should respond. and eric holder about to arrive in ferguson, missouri with results from a new government autopsy on michael brown. but can we really expect the attorney general to be fair concerning some of his past comments on race? >> things racial, we have always been and i believe continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards
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good morning. today is wednesday, august 20. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they are calling it a message to america. isis terrorists beheading an american journalist and they are not stopping there. they're threatening to kill another american. eric holder heading to ferguson, missouri today to help the investigation, but is he the right guy fort job considering some of his comments about race in the past? >> in things racial, we have always been and we, i believe, continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards. >> so are we a nation of cowards? we're going to report and you're going to decide. and katy perry has something to roar about. ♪ ♪ >> hear her roar, she's being asked to pay to play at the super bowl. really? that's how you get on it? you pay for it? we're going to tell you that story and so much more.
you're watching "fox & friends" right here on the fox news channel. thank you for joining us at "fox & friends" this morning. good morning to you peter. >> good morning. >> and steve. we are going to get you right to that fox news alert. the most horrific video isis militants beheading james foley. now they're promising more bloodshed if their demands are not met. leeland vittert is live in washington where u.s. officials have broken down the video frame by frame. absolutely infuriating, devastate to go see that video. has it been authenticated? what are authorities saying now and what's coming out of the white house? >> at least for right now, the white house itself has not commented. president obama is on vacation in martha's vineyard this morning. james foley worked as a
freelance journaling. he disappeared in the northern part of that country in november 2012. isis posted the gruesome video on line. this is just a still frame of that video that we're showing you. u.s. officials told the associated press they believe the tape is authentic and the tape fully appears wearing prison orange, hands bound behind his back right there. you can see the militant who is there above him. at one point foley gives a statement of sorts that appears as though it was written by his captors talking about why he says he believes that it is the united states that is responsible for his death because of the attacks on isis and then he is executed. there is a lot of folks who now say this video should be marked a change in u.s. policy. >> this is one of our own. this is someone from our own village, from new hampshire. this affects the people in the situation room and in the oval office. the way it affects you and me.
>> reporter: foley's family has asked for privacy while they mourn. his mother has issued a statement on facebook saying in part, we have never been prouder of our son, jim. he gave his life trying to expose the world to the suffering of the syrian people. we implore the kidnappers to spare the lives of the remaining hostages. like jim, they are innocent. isis has said their attacks will continue against not only the rest of the country of iraq, but also against this man, steven so thelof, an american from miami. he says if president obama does not end american military air strikes, they will execute him as well. president obama left washington yesterday afternoon as the story was breaking to head back to his vacation in martha's vineyard. it appears as though he will give a statement of some type, either written or perhaps publicly later today. back to you. >> thank you for all of that. we'll stay with you this morning. >> i hope the president has a comment because this is
absolutely atrocious. we've got video. if you have only seen the still frame of him, we're going to show it to you. he was on "the o'reilly factor" show. before that, let's tell you a little of his back story. james wright foley, 40 years old. he was a teacher and he became a photo journalist. he was working at the time of his capture for a web site called global post. he was in hot spots all across the middle east, including syria and iraq. he was actually abducted and held hostage by libyans back in april of 2011. he joined bill o'reilly on "the o'reilly factor" in this building talking about that kidnapping. >> we got in a small rebel convoy. we stopped, passed the checkpoint, heard gadhafi forces were very close. not a minute later, two heavily armed gadhafi pick up trucks came over the hill, fire was so heavy we pressed our self as far
as we could to the ground. our colleague was killed. they interrogated me for six hours initially and that was kind of felt like a mind game. one guy would be playing kind of good cop. one guy would come in yelling and saying we think you're a spy. and eventually you figured out look, i just got to stick to my story, make sure i tell the absolute truth that i'm a journalist. that's my only chance. >> let's bring in pete hegseth. pete hegseth, he's a fox news analyst, veteran and expert on this area and the entire issue. good morning, pete. >> good morning. >> what are your thoughts on this sad day involving the death of this american? >> it's sobering. i think what we saw there on that video is the face of evil. we saw the nature of this enemy. we saw their true intention. anyone standing between them, including an innocent journalist is a victim. that's with terrorists do. they kill innocents for their own political ends. in this particular case, you've got mr. foley who was there trying to cover this.
what you've got is not just a series of terrorists chopping off heads, you've got an islamic army. upwards of 80,000 people seeking to establish a caliphate. >> this is bigger than al-qaeda ever was, isn't it? >> much bigger. can we talk about daniel pearl, as tragic as that was, this is 2.0. this is not a series of terrorists in mountains. these are folks who believed they have established a state, have an army and have a mandate, from heaven, to go back to the 7th century and establish a caliphate. >> when you hear this, and we understand, i keep hearing we have foreign fighters who have been trained and recruited. they were european passports and they could be headed our way. what are your thoughts on that? second, why should every american out there be more than concerned and on alert about isis having us in their target? >> watch the video. the man cutting off the head is not speaking in arabic. he's not syrian. he has a british accent speaking in perfect english to president
obama, to the american people saying this is a message to you, what we will do to you ask and your families. that gentleman could have been from north africa, but likely from london. likely has a passport, like him, thousands of others in iraq fighting for isis have passports. likely came through turkey. this is terror not just in the streets of syria and iraq right now, but literally could be exported to europe and the united states, making it a direct threat to us. that is their goal. what do we do? beat the pants off them. >> how? >> ultimately it takes military might. you can't wish this threat away. you can't negotiate with it and hope it goes away. they understand one thing. strength and power. if we're not there to do it, nobody else will. >> there was an editorial this morning that said president obama must strike the islamists. killers, isis must pay. isis must die. is that an appropriate reaction? >> amen. absolutely it is.
that's the only force they understand. they're not going to negotiate with them. you can't simply contain them. the president used the word contain yesterday. how do you contain that threat with passports and those intentions? you do not. you defeat them and we're not doing anything there because this president won't say the i word, iraq. doesn't want to go back. doesn't want to invest. it doesn't matter where this kind of threat manifests itself. it's the most dangerous, people with the most dangerous weapons and the worst of intentions and they're coming for us if they can. >> so many people say when they look at how this thing has metastasized over there, is that this president left the door open for this to happen because we left no residual force in iraq. now it has grown so gigantic. now not the time to rehash that. but we know that has happened. now is the time to look forward. this is our fight and we can't pretend it's not going to impact us. in the tape, they were talking about retaliating against americans. first that guy we just saw, steven so thelof and then they're going to come for as many of us as they can.
>> bagdadi, the leader of isis, said when he was with his captors in 2004, said i will see you in new york. that's their intention from the very beginning. what they're establishing. when we watch a video like this, when americans watch a video like this, they have to understand, there is no other force in the world that can take them on and defeat them. if not us, then who? if not now, then this boil will get worse and worse, meaning my son gunner or next generation a platoon leader in iraq dealing with it. we have to deal with it now and directly. otherwise it doesn't go away. >> general hayden is set to join us in minutes here. i think he would echo that. he said last night we can either pay now or pay more later. we certainly appreciate your insight here. >> thank you. it's about ten minutes after the top of the hour. what happened last night in ferguson? ainsley earhart joins us live. >> i got the latest on this. things reaching a boiling point overnight. all it took was one flying water bottle to spark new violence.
police arrested 47 people and cop sophisticated three loaded hand guns. the governor of missouri igniting a fire storm. he made these comments late last night. many think he already decided that the oster is guilty. >> ten days ago a police officer shot and killed michael brown in broad daylight. we have a responsibility to come together to do everything we can to achieve justice for this family and vigorous prosecution must be done. >> a few hours attorney general eric holder will arrive in ferguson to meet with the f.b.i. agents investigating the death of michael brown. today a grand jury begins hearing evidence on that case. also overnight, a winner declared in alaska's closely watched republican senate primary race. the state's former attorney general and marine officer dan sullivan will now face the democratic incumbent, senator mark begich in the fall. sullivan beat out tea party favorite joe miller and
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to pay to play. for the first time ever, the nfl wants singers to pay money. that's not sitting well with the other candidates. cold play and rihanna reportedly not happy about this news. the big game set for february 1 in phoenix. yes, it is football season already. who would you want to see play? >> all i know is i don't ever have to hear katy perry again and i'll -- thank you very much. >> i go country every time. >> here is why, we drove my daughter back down to law school. two hours, 2 1/2 hours nonstop, katy perry. she's great entertainer. i just don't need to hear her anymore. >> they were singing in unison back then. >> like a fire work! >> in ferguson, missouri, eric holder heading to ferguson to head the investigation. but is he the right guy for the job? >> things racial, we have always been and we, i believe, continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards.
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fox news alert. later today attorney general eric holder set to arrive in ferguson, missouri. he's promising a full and fair investigation, but is he the right guy for the job? here to react is jason reilly, a columnist with the "wall street journal" and fox news contributor as well of the good morning. >> good morning. >> why is eric holder going? >> oh, it's optics. there is political pressure from the black community, from the left to look like they're doing something. so i think they've launched this parallel investigation purely for appearances. >> it's a pr stunt? >> a pr stunt. i've been told that siply the feds -- typically the feds don't get involved unless there is some evidence the local authorities can't get the job done or if there is a history of civil rights violations in the police department. neither has been alleged here. >> eric holder has a history of
making comments on race. we have a little montage, about 30 seconds worth. i want your reaction. watch this. >> in things racial, we have always been, and we, i believe, continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards. you look at the way the attorney general of the united states was treated yesterday. what attorney general has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? what president has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? certain racial component to this for some people. i don't think this is a main driver, but for some, there is this racial animas. >> what do you think? >> not too far from what al sharpton is going. going for racial solidarity instead of condemning bad black behavior. that's what eric holder doesn't want to talk about, crime. black crime rates. between 1976 and 2005, blacks committed more than half of all murders in the united states. absolute majority.
if you look at black arrest rates, for all manner of violent crime, all manner of property crime, typically the numbers are two to three times the representation in the population. the victims of course are overwhelmingly black! so before we talk about whether cops value black lives, whether america values black lives, shouldn't we be talking about whether blacks in these communities perpetrating these crimes value black lives? but eric holder doesn't want to have that conversation. he doesn't want to talk about personal behavior. he wants to talk about racism. the legacy of this, the legacy of that. poverty. let's have an honest conversation about race. but until we address black criminality, we're not having an honest conversation. >> yesterday the governor nixon in missouri said there was going to be a vigorous prosecution of this police officer. as eric holder rolls into ferguson later today what, should he tell the people there? >> he should tell the law breakers to stop breaking the law, full stop.
he should not equivocate between police behavior and the behavior of the rioters. there is no comparison. one is doing their jobs. the police are in these neighborhoods because that's where the 911 calls come from. the law-abiding residents of these communities want them there and i want them there to protect the law-abiding members of these communities. that's where our sympathy should lie. >> jason reilly from the "wall street journal," thank you very much. coming up, mother nature unleashing torrential downpours, flooding so bad, a mini van trapped. that's a river and somehow that car is in it. the mini van. the amazing rescue you've got to see coming up. and more than 2 million americans will get skin cancer this year. now a viral video showing the shocking effects of the sun on your face. the risks you've got to be aware of before you walk out the door today as our guest walks in
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mississippi, arkansas, and missouri. remember that. and finally, 101. that's how old veteran herman goldman just turned. he's been working at the same new jersey lighting company for 73 years. he still shows up for work four days a week, elisabeth. >> so impressive. love that. well, a new viral video exposing the painful truth behind the sun's harmful rays, while many believe you're safe as long as you don't get a sunburn, that's simply no longer true. here to talk about the real risks of sun exposure, nurse practitioner, erin tolbert joins us now. good morning. >> good morning. >> when you look at the statistics, it's alarming. one in five will develop skin cancer over a lifetime. that is from the skin cancer foundation. about every hour, a person dies from melanoma. this is something we all need to pay attention to. almost 10,000 people will die
from can in 2014. what too we do? >> yes. skin cancers are on the rise. if you watch this video, it shows you a u.v. light what your skin looks like that's not yet visible to the naked eye. that sun damage we've already attained. it's very concerning. you can see that skin is really damaged more than you originally thought. so you need to do something about it. >> the video here, it's over 9 million and counting in views so far. really just gives us a visual to something we hear about it a lot. but to see it happen, it's frightening. really motivating a ton of people out there. so if you want to avoid this sort of situation moving forward and being in the statistic category, what should we do? >> you need to do a monthly skin check and enlist the help of a friend or family member in doing your monthly skin check. one thing i see all the time in my practice is people have moles maybe on their scalp or backs that they don't know about. so you need to have someone help you with that. go through the abcs when you do it.
this is how you tell p a mole is abnormal or if it is normal and it's not a big deal. so a, asymmetry. if you draw a line down the middle of the mole, does it look the same on both sides? if so, it's most likely not cancerous. b is for borders. if the borders are notched or irregular, this signals cancer. if same color, c is for color, a uniform color throughout, this is a good thing. if you have a mole that's maybe black or bluish or has multiple colors of brown within the same mole, that can be a sign of cancer. d, diameter. if the mole is less than the size of a pencil eraser, that's a good thing. if it's larger than that, you need to get it checked. then e is for evolution. is the mole changing over time? if you have a mole that's changing, that's sign it could be cancerous and you need to get it looked at by a professional. >> should you take pictures of them? >> yes. there are actually a few apps that can help with this. dr. mole, for example. you can take pictures of them and archive them to compare them
from month to month. also it will assign a risk for your mole. it helps you go through the abc's within the app itself. >> thank you. we'll call those savies instead of selfies. >> thanks for having me. erin is going to stick around, though, which is great news. go to our facebook page and she's going to answer all of your questions. so send them her way. thanks again. coming up, your top story, an american journalist beheaded by isis. so how should the united states be responding? general michael hayden, former c.i.a. director under george w. bush, our president, he is here with a warning for you next. do not miss texas, rick perry thumbing his nose at criminal charges and wait 'til you see what he did right after this pic. ♪
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this is a fox news alert. u.s. intelligence officials analyzing the brutal new video errorredly showing the killing of american journalist james foley by isis. they're analyzing the landscape to determine where it happened and trying to identify who the executioner is. >> and with at least one other american's life hanging in the balance, according to the youtube video that was released yesterday, what should the united states response be today? >> joining us now is general michael hayden, current principle of the chertoff group and serving under the c.i.a. under george w. bush.
thank you for being with us. >> good morning. >> alarming scene that some saw, either a still or video. when you see something that is proposed here, an execution of our own, it has everyone up in arms. what does the united states need to do? are air strikes enough anymore? with isis a message to the united states, what's our move? >> first of all, we had to look at the face of evil right there. so we have an understanding of what we're up against and what allowing this thing to grow would mean for the safety of americans back here at home, let alone what it means in the region there. i think there are several things we need to do. number one, we've reengage in iraq. that's good news. i think we're all in agreement now that zero wasn't the right number, the residual american forces there. we're up to 1,000 now. i'm convinced with certainty that grows to a much larger number. the president made two fairly narrow commitments.
stopping genocide and protecting americans like at the consulate. but the president's actions have already pretty much gone beyond that fairly limited definition that he's given. we turned our selfs into the kurdish air force going back to recapture the mosul dam. look, i'm all in favor of that. that's a good thing. we need to do more of that. i think there are three or four steps that we need to do. number one, stabilize iraq, the mosul dam. you can't let them continue to control that or the refinery. this is minor adjustments to the current line of con frontation. do that. number two, get some semblance of political stability in baghdad. that seems to be going underway right now with the new prime minister designate. number three, take it to isis. take the fight to them. begin to degrade their capacity. don't wait to respond to an attack so that you're preventing
humanitarian catastrophe. take the fight to them and degrade them. >> on the ground? >> you can do it from the air at the beginning -- let me be careful with my language here -- the phrase i would use is begin to treat the area they control in iraq and syria, the way we have treated waziristan the past ten years. make them worried about their survival. >> sure. general, it will be interesting to see what the white house says and we would expect there would be sop sort of a statement. apparently the president of the united states heard about this beheading on the youtube video enroute back to his vacation in martha's vineyard on air force one. we have some breaking news right now. david cameron, the prime minister of the united kingdom has cut short his family vacation to go ahead and deal with this emergency as well. what would you like to see the president of the united states say and do? is it time for him to come back to washington? >> look, the symbolism about his coming back to washington, i understand that.
obviously the prime minister sees the value of that. beyond the symbolism, though, i think straight talk with the american people. this is a long-term problem. it's going to require long-term involvement from the united states. we are going to have to apply military pressure here in a way that frankly runs counter to the al-qaeda in retreat and the tide of war is retreating. he has to be very clear about that to the american people. look, we talk a lot about war weariness. but you got cause and effect here. you've got a president now for several years who has actually fed the war weariness story. he's actually been a bit of a cheerleader for war weariness. it's now going to require great leadership on the president's part, tell the american people as tired of war as you and i are, we have got to act now. he said last night with megyn kelly, this is a pay me now or pay me later. pay me later will be a lot more expensive.
>> the ultimate question is, general, we know, and i think you would agree, isis declared war on the united states by word and by deed. >> by deed now. >> should president obama declare war on isis by word and by deed? >> you bring up a wonderful question. there is already speculation back home in washington, should he go to the congress to get the equivalent of the aumf, authorization for use of military force? the stories i'm reading from this morning is the congress is saying no, no, no. that's not required. you've got all the authority you need, mr. president, which is another example of our government not quite manning up to the requirement here and being very clear with the american people. >> the administration has over the last couple of years said, you know, that's something a splinter group. it's not core al-qaeda. this isis is worse than core al-qaeda ever was, isn't it? >> this is beyond the capabilities of the group who attacked us on september 11 on september 11.
they were hosted by a government. they were a global terrorist organization. these guys are a thorough regional terrorist organization, aspiring to be global. they're not hosted by anybody. they are a government. they are larger than al-qaeda. they control territory and as several of your commentators pointed out, they're kind of an army too. >> if we don't step things up? >> if we don't, this doesn't get better on itself. it gets worse. >> general hayden, thank you very much. >> thank you. great insight. 22 minutes before the top of the hour. we got some headlines with ainsley earhart. >> that's right. we're going to go to texas. rick perry there, the governor of texas booked on felony abuse of power charges. rick perry turning himself in in an austin courthouse amongst a cheering crowd. now promising to fight back. >> i'm going to fight this injustice with every fiber of my being and we will prevail!
>> governor perry is set to be arraigned on friday. the indictment accuses him of abusing his power when he vetoed funds to an office that investigates public corruption. he did it after district attorney rose mary lehmberg, a democrat, refused to resign after a drunk driving arrest. changing rules now for the no fly list. but the white house will not say how. the administration does say it's going to give travelers a way to appeal and to get off of the list. a federal judge ruled the current policy unconstitutional. the changes will start over the next six months. there are about 48,000 people that are currently on that no fly list. and apparently bigger is better, at least when it comes to weddings. ♪
♪ >> the national marriage project reports couples who had 150 or more guests at their wedding had a better marriage. >> 150? >> yep. compared to those with fewer guests. apparently commitment is strengthened when it is publicly declared and an extended network of friends and family is a good support system. those are your headlines. does that surprise you? why are you shocked? do you think that's lot? >> because i have two daughters who are going to have weddings some day and that's a horrifying number. ainsley, how many people at your wedding? >> i guess about 200. >> oh, my goodness! you have a happy marriage. we had 20. elisabeth, she takes the cake. >> i'm not going to -- >> i'm going home now. >> thank you. coming up, does the shooting of michael brown bring up racial issues? 80% of african-americans say yes. less than half of whites polled agree. dr. keith ablow here to explain the shocking divide on race next
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welcome back. now headlines. incredible new video out of arizona where a woman was pulled from a mini van moments before it was swallowed up by raging flood waters. rescues like this happening all over the state. in less than 24 hours, arizona saw more rain than in all of last summer. and the accord tops the list of the most stolen vehicles. nearly 54,000 accords were
stolen last year. the civic coming in at second, followed by chevy and ford pickups, the toyota camry rounding out the top five. steve and elisabeth? showing racial divide when it comes to public opinion in the shooting death of michael brown. when asked whether or not brown's shooting raises racial issues, 80% of blacks polled by pew said yes. while only 37% of whites said yes. >> opinions about the shooting investigation and police involvement in protests were also vastly different. we want to know why. here now is psychiatrist and fox news contributor dr. keith ablow, who is set to join us in a bit. when you look at the numbers, there is a huge divide in a nation that was supposed to be brought together. we see here it is quite the opposite. >> right. that poll right there. the question is with the michael brown case out in ferguson, does
it raise important issues about race? 80% of african-americans say yes and 37% of whites say yes. take a look at this one. the police response to the shooting has gone too far. 65% of african-americans say it has gone too far. 33% of whites -- sorry, we got the wrong one up. not what i'm talking about. and there it is right there. if you'd like to go back to the one we were just showing on the screen, a great deal or fair amount of confidence in the investigations into the shooting, 18% of african-americans say they have confidence. 52% of whites say they have confidence in the system. that is damning. >> we see the unrest in ferguson and these numbers may indicate just why. people continue looking at the psychiatry behind all this. >> right. the headline out of ferguson overnight is that 47 people were arrested. three loaded hand guns seized.
they had a press conference at 2:15 in the morning and captain ron johnson said that the officers interrupted criminal activities and prevented violence. so it was not as awful a night last night in ferguson and probably a big part of that had to do with the fact that what they said was if you are peaceful and you're going to protest, do it during the day. that way the people who come out at night, we can tell the difference. >> the sun goes down and anxiety and violence has seemed to increase. monday is the day set for michael brown's funeral. we'll keep you updated on all of that. still to come. it is one of president obama's biggest campaign promises. >> we've made huge swaths of your government more efficient and more transparent and more accountable than ever before. >> really? but his words a lot different than his actions. the leader of the group suing to make the white house open up, comes up live next. first on this day in 1977,
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it was about president obama said before and after taking office. >> stop fighting to open up government. we have put in place the toughest ethics laws and toughest transparency rules of any administration in history. we made huge swaths of your government more efficient and more transparent and more accountable than ever before. this is the most transparent administration in history. i think that we've provided much
greater transparency than existed prior to our administration coming in. >> but from secret health care deals on obamacare to a crackdown on access to the press, there is plenty of debate of how transparent this obama administration really is. now one watchdog group is suing the white house claiming the white house is unlawfully denying and delaying the release of documents they've requested under the freedom of information act. dan epstein is the executive director of cause of action, the organization suing the obama white house. good morning, dan. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> so you brought a lawsuit where and why? what is the white house doing? >> my organization, cause of action, is a group of nonpartisan, nonprofit attorneys who are committed to sharing one core belief. if you're going to spend our taxpayer dollars, we have a right to know what you're doing with it. so we are suing because of a
secret memo that this administration has used to force agencies to consult with the president about virtually anything the president is interested in. >> secret memo. what are you talking about, a secret memo? describe that for us. >> well, in 2009 after all of the president's transparency promises, he came out with a memo that instructed all federal agencies to consult with the white house on any request that the president deemed important. this was a term that we still don't know the definition of called white house equities. >> so you're saying that 12 different agencies ranging from the department of justice to the department of housing and urban development have decided to slow walk important freedom of information requests, and there we see the seals of all these different agencies. what is the white house saying? >> the white house claimed to be the most transparent in history. i think we know now that that rhetoric is a lie, that this administration is covering up.
if it wasn't so important to hide these documents, why are they being so opaque about it? we know just for instance that with congress, with investigative reporters and with members of the public, there have been requests for information that have been obstructed. just think about the secret e-mails that epa, which congress had an issue subpoena to get. that shows this administration has a lot to hide. >> what are you seeking specifically? what kind of great information are you looking to pull out of the white house and what are you asking the federal court to do in terms of punishing this administration in terms of their conduct? >> well, ultimately the taxpayers are entitled to know about what this government is up to. that's ultimately what we're seeking and we're trying to prevent this administration from being opaque. we're asking the court to release these documents that we have requested, which show how the president has politicized the federal government. in addition to that, we simply
want the president to get rid of this secret memo, to end this policy and end it now. >> the secret memo came from a white house council. correct? >> that's right. the chief lawyer that advises the president issued this memo. it didn't come from attorney general holder. it didn't come from any internal agency. it was the white house instructing federal agencies, when you get document requests from the public or from congress, consult with us if you think it's going to be of interest to the president politically. >> as we go out, let me read what the white house says in response to this. the president's committed to a transparent and open government and has taken unprecedented steps to ensure that members of the public have access to information. obviously you and your organization disagreed and you brought suit. thanks for telling us about it this morning and let us know what's happening with this because i think people really want to know about how information is being withheld or not withheld by the white house. good to see you. >> thank you so much. coming up, it's one of the
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going to look at james foley after he survived a kidnapping in libya in this building. >> i just got to stick to my story, make sure i tell the absolute truth that i'm a journalist. >> that's the man whose video where he was beheaded ran yesterday. we'll show you part of his interview with fox news straight ahead. and attorney general eric holder about to land in ferguson. can we trust him to be fair considering some of his past comments on race? >> in things racial, we have always been and we, i believe, continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards. >> we report. you decide because mornings are better with friends. thank you for joining us on this very busy wednesday. let's get right to the fox news alert from overnight. isis militants have apparently
beheaded an american journalist by the name of james foley. now the militants are promising to kill another american hostage unless the u.s. stops the bombing in those mountains. >> that's right. this as we learn brand-new information about the savage behind that black mask. >> joining us from washington, d.c. is lee land vittert. good morning. >> good morning there. obviously the analysis of this videotape over the past 24 hours continues to develop. there is a lot of parts of it to go through. we have the still picture there that shows james foley being held. this is some of the things that they are looking at from an analysis perspective of intelligence. one, where exactly is this? what can they tell about the landscape? this is what an intelligence official is telling us. who is the guy behind the black mask? he speaks with a british accent there in the video before he executes james foley. the question then, of course, is who is he? does he track with a number of
the other british nationals that are there? one of the big fears here is foreign fighters coming back from isis. also particularly they're zeroing in on that orange jump suit that james foley is wearing. they say that's consistent with jihadi propaganda, oftentimes because it tracks back to guantanamo bay and those kinds of things, the jihaddists often put their prisoners in. earlier on the show, general michael hayden on talking about his views on this tape. >> look, the face of evil right there. so we have an understanding of what we're up against and what allowing this thing to grow would mean for the safety of americans back here at home let alone what it means in the region there. >> now, james foley's family did release a statement. remember, he was a journalist, freelancer who was abducted in 2012. the statement from his family said we have never been prouder of our son, jim. he gave his life trying to expose the world to the
suffering of the syrian people. we implore the kidnappers to spare the lives of the remaining hostages like jim, they are innocent. isis says in that video that their attacks will continue not only in iraq, but they say that if they are not -- the air strikes from the united states do not end, they will execute another american hostage, that is this man, steven sotlof. he's from miami. as things are developing here in washington about 8:00 a.m., we are hearing there is going to be a statement from president obama. we don't know whether that's going to be on tape or possibly a written statement coming out later today. remember, he left just yesterday as this news was breaking for martha's vineyard to continue his vacation. back to you guys. >> all right. leeland vittert, thank you very much. while the president did learn about this youtube video that was posted, that gruesomely showed the beheading of this american journalist, david cameron, the prime minister of great britain, apparently has decided to cut his vacation
short with his family. he's heading back to deal with the emergency. we did have general hayden on as you just saw with leeland right there. what was interesting, at the conclusion of his interview, this administration has talked about, well, we've completely degraded core al-qaeda. >> containing them. >> yeah. we've got it under control. we've killed osama bin laden and al-qaeda is on its heels. we heard that a million times. general hayden, sitting right here on the couch, said that isis, as it is today, is stronger and bigger and worse than al-qaeda was on september 11, 2001. >> it begs the question, is our question being strong enough in the face of that? captain pete hegseth also joined us earlier and he said this. >> ultimately it takes military might. you can't wish this threat away. you can't negotiate with it and hope it goes away. they understand one thing, strength and power. they're not going to negotiate with them. you can't simply contain them.
the president used the word contain yesterday. how do you contain that threat with passports and those intentions? you do not. you defeat them. we're not doing it there because this president won't say the i word, iraq. doesn't want to go back, doesn't want to invest. it doesn't matter where this kind of threat manifests itself, it's the most dangerous people with the most dangerous weapons and the worst of intentions and they're coming for us if they can. >> general hayden made a similar point that the president has been engaging in kind of talking to the american this notion of war weary innocence terms of iraq and afghanistan and it will be a major test his leadership to respond to this latest attack that has kind of turned the light switch in the head of americans just in a matter of hours. so we look at newspaper editorials and you look at reaction of people here in the studio, people who work in the building, people we spoke to this morning, how we were going to respond. can we stand for this? do we recognize the risk that isis really is? >> it is a risk.
>> you saw some strong language come from the president as events have been unfolding in missouri. i think to honor this family of james foley, at the very least there could be some language indicating strength and oppressing against in a commitment to destroy isis. their mission is clearly to destroy us. >> okay. and there you're looking at some of the images of james wright foley. he's the man who was beheaded in this video. he was a teacher for a while, but then he turned reporter and a photo journalist. he worked in conflict zones all across the middle east, including syria and iraq and he was actually taken hostage in libya for over a month, i do believe. after he was released back in 2011, wound up appearing on the bill o'reilly show in 2011 and here he is.
it's almost prophetic where he's talking about when he was kidnapped at that point by the libyans. >> gadhafi's guys come and they take you captive. >> that's exactly what happened. >> they put you in the truck and where do they take you? >> to a safe house, basically a house they occupy, tied us up and told us look, you're going to go to trip apply. when we were initially captured, struck several times with the butt of an ak 47, punched. very young soldier, very aggressive. once we were actually captured, the tension calmed way down. >> so did they interrogate you? >> they interrogated me for six hours initially and that was kind of felt like a mind game. one guy would be playing kind of good cop. one guy would come in yelling and saying we think you're a spy. and eventually you figured out, look, i just got to stick to my story, make sure i tell the absolute truth that i'm a journalist. >> so there he is back in 2011
after he was kidnapped by the libyans. he was later kidnapped by somebody in syria. we knew positively, although the authentication has not been confirmed by the government yet, he was beheaded by isis. >> american journalist steven sotlof also depicted in that video is also being held by isis and they are threatening to do the same to him. >> they are. more details a little later on. >> that's right. and we're going to head over to another developingy. tensions reaching a boiling point overnight in ferguson. all it took was one flying water bottle to spark new violence. >> now more from ferguson with the very latest and as the sun comes up, garrett, it was a more quiet night in ferguson, missouri, wasn't it? >> reporter: yes. it's all relative here in ferguson. a quiet night last night involved protesters throwing water bottles filled with urine at officers.
it involved officers responding with pepper spray here and there amongst the protesters. but this is an improvement from what we've seen the last four or five nights when protesters were throwing rocks and molotov cocktails at officers, shooting guns at them as well. officers responding with tear gas and smoke canisters as well. last night it was an improvement. captain ron johnson called it a turning point in relation between police and protesters and he said that was in large part due to the community leaders that came out in large groups last night to separate the police and the more unruly protesters. this is as many of those in the community are looking forward to the visit of attorney general eric holder today. he is coming to ferguson to meet with members of the sei that have been here on the ground conducting the federal investigation to see if there are civil rights violations that occurred in the shooting of michael brown. in addition, today a grand jury will begin viewing evidence to determine whether or not charges should be brought against that
officer who shot michael brown. that officer, 28-year-old darren wilson. today they will begin viewing that evidence to determine whether those charges will be brought against him. that is something protesters will keep an eye on very closely because they have said all along justice is what they are seeking and justice to them is having charges brought against that officer. back to you. >> all right. thank you. >> thank you. now we turn to ainsley who joins us with headlines she wants to bring you this morning. >> talking about that election in alaska to start out. it's the race that could have a huge impact come november. alaska's republican senate primary race could determine who is going to control the current democratic-controlled senate. overnight, the state's former attorney general and marine officer dan sullivan scoring the big win and will now face democratic incumbent senator mark begich. sullivan beat out tea party favorite joe miller and lieutenant governor treadwell with 40% of the vote. treadwell conceding overnight
after maintaining third place. mass murder stopped in its tracks. thank goodness. police arresting two teen-agers in pasadena, california, for planning to shoot up their school. cops confirming they were researching guns, pellet -- bullet proof vests and bomb making techniques on line. they were plotting their attack in detail on social media until a community member told the school and told police. terrifying moments at a football practice, lightning hitting the field at a middle school sending young kids to the hospital. it happened in new mexico. one child now fighting for his life in critical condition. >> he was crying 'cause of his ear and one was just laying on the floor. he went unconscious. >> reporter: three other players and a coach were also hit. and it looks like a stunt straight out of the movies.
dramatic video of that biker crashing into the back end of another vehicle. miraculously, he lands on top of the car on his feet and survives the accident. that is real. those are your headlines. >> i have seen jackie chan do that a million times. >> or his stunt double. you think it's jackie chan. >> that's right. exactly. >> thank you. a dozen minutes after the top of the hour on this wednesday. they executed an american journalist and promised to strike again unless our president meets their demands. do we have any options? congressman mike rogers, the chairman of the house intel committee here with his perspective next. first you paid for their cable tv and then a brand-new soccer field. wait until you hear what detainees are getting now, courtesy of the american taxpayers. ♪
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♪ a fox news alert. brand-new information on this video. a youtube posted yesterday showing isis terrorists brutally beheading an american journalist. fox's katherine marriage confirming u.s. officials are making the executioner's name
and location a top priority as they execute right there that man, james wright foley, 40 years old, of new hampshire. congressman mike rogers of michigan is the chairman of the house intel committee, joins us live from our nation's capitol. good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. >> i know you can't reveal any of the secret stuff, but given the fact that we have this video -- and we're not playing it. we're just showing a still frame -- what do the intel guys look at? >> they'll look at everything. the language, the way this individual talked, how he talked what, his accent was, if it was a real accent or an inflamed accent in any way. they'll look at the lapped scape in the back. they'll try to make determinations if they can identify the location. so every little speck of information on that video will be a clue for the intelligence community, both to verify if it was accurate and true, number one. and two, if that were the case, can they put a place and can
they work to try to identify who that individual might be. >> sure. one of the things that is said by the executioner on the video is we're doing this because president obama has been bombing isis, in particular us trying to rescue the guys who are stuck on that mountain. but also we helped the kurds make safe the dam, mosul dam now is under the control of the iraqis, which is good news. the president does seem to be obsessed with that, doesn't he? >> well, this cannot be a strategy about the dam and it cannot be and i hope he doesn't -- my heart goes out to the families of mr. foley and all those that have been impacted by this. this has to be a bigger strategy than that. this can't be about the dam. it can't be about one single stream of threat, which you just saw from isil. they have been threatening for months. as a matter of fact, over almost a year ever since they've been on the march, raping and pillaging and beheading both
christians and yazidis and minority groups, anyone who won't submit to their rule, they use violence to put into submission. that's who they are. america got a glimpse of exactly who they are. this is not a group you're going to have a sit down with and negotiate. this is a group you need to deal with. they are terrorists who have expressed for over a year an interest in attacking the united states and our european allies. that ought to get us off our backsides and get to work on dismantling this organization. it's dangerous. >> i'm glad you mentioned our european allies because the breaking news this morning is that united kingdom's prime minister, david cameron, looked at that video and he's canceled his family vacation. he's gone back to work. what's curious is, our president heard about it last night enroute back to martha's vineyard and his family vacation on air force one, but instead of turning the plane around and going back to washington, he's still on vacation. what should he be doing? >> well, just the optics of this are bad.
if this is a serious problem and it is, and we have troops assisting the iraqi forces and trying to push them back electric a certain location, that's pretty serious. the optics of being on vacation and not coming away from that vacation is bad. that's why i think is cameron brown is going back. he's going to show he's the prime minister and taking this serious low and on the job making the decisions you need to make to keep britain safe. we need that same optics from this president. we need to show the world that this president is leading at very difficult time. again, i hope he reconsiders. maybe in the press conference today he'll talk about coming back and getting back to work on what is a very dangerous time for the united states. remember some thousands of europeans believed to be operating with isil in syria and iraq that have western passports. that means you have access to the united states. this is as serious as it gets and they've already said they want to commit acts of terror.
that's a problem. >> that's right. chairman mike rogers joining us from washington, d.c thank you very much. >> thanks. >> we're going to take a quick time out and be right back ♪ ♪ ♪
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atlantic casino. atlantic city casino. it already having financial problems, they're going to close on september 2 and now they're putting bags of money on the roofs of trucks and losing it. what a way to operate. peter? tensions reach a boiling point overnight in ferguson, missouri. >> it is a terrifying scene once the sun goes down. but during the day, a much different outlook. >> most of the people just want justice. a lot of people do peaceful protests and the police try to break it up. >> it wasn't even a resident who stay in ferguson who was looting. but at the same time, i understand the ager and frustration. >> be better things the police and community get together and do things when it's other than crimes going on. >> this is larry jones, a pastor that hosted a unity rally, the event you saw last weekend. we thank you for being with us
this morning. when we see the violence erupting at night, we also know that alongside of that are individuals like yourself who really want peace. how do you restore that? >> well, we all want peace. what happens late at night is a group of people that are disturbing, a group of people that are antagonizing, a group of people that want to do violence. we want peace to take place. the best thing we have right now is the fact that our state police is trying to handle the situation. but what we want to focus on more than what takes place anige daytime. you have people protesting peacefully, people that are trying to make their statement known, at church when al sharpton was there, there was over 3,000 people there at one time.
and it was peaceful. they came in peace. they had their service in peace and left in peace. >> there are calming words and then there are ones that seem in a way, even if they come from a very real place, to instigate more tension. i want to take a listen right now and have you listen here and then react to eric holder and let us know if we're going to hear more comments like this. >> in things racial, we have always been and we, i believe, continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards. you look at the way the attorney general of the united states was treated yesterday, what attorney general has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? what president has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? certain racial component to this for some people, i don't think this is a main driver, but for some, there is this racial animas. >> do you think eric holder will indeed continue with comments like that or will he taper those
a bit in hopes of calming crowds down? >> well, with the attorney general coming to the area, the bottom line for that is trying to find a clear path of justice for all. his coming may not be able to effect what these young people are doing late at night, but the purpose is to come to the area and try to make sure there is a fair process. what's taking place here in st. louis with the shooting of michael brown by the police officer, we have a process we all have to go through. we want this fair so justice can prevail. >> bishop, beautiful church and i read of your ministry and we all appreciate that as americans. the question i have for you is when a congregant or a protester or even a rioter comes to you and says bishop, there will be
no peace if there is no justice, how do you reply to that and is that an appropriate sentiment? >> well, the thing that -- if someone says there will be no peace if there is no justice, we can't move forward without having peace. it's very, very important that we convey the message to all, young, old, from wherever they are that peace is necessary because justice will prevail as we work the process. but we must have peace among ourselves and we will tell everybody let's respect all so we can be able to move forward. >> thank you for increasing the peace. we need to come together, all races, all people in this country and we appreciate your efforts to do that there in ferguson and the st. louis area. >> we sure do. thank you, bishop. >> thank you so much. when we come back, more
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we are back with a fox news alert. british officials now saying the masked isis executioner shown here in this horrific video beheading american journalist james foley may be a british national. >> right now united kingdom officials are trying to analyze the executioner's voice to try to identify the killer. this as u.s. intelligence
officers scramble to determine where it was filmed and so as we just heard from chairman mike rogers of the house intel committee, they're looking at the background, they're look at the landscape. they're looking at every single pixel on that to figure out if there is a clue. >> and when the news broke last night, president obama did not make a statement, although the national security council agency did. he's expected to make a statement later today. isis threatening to kill another american captive, steven sotlotf, another american journalist, unless the u.s. stops its air strikes in iraq. >> right. and it is unknown how many americans are being held by syria and isis right now. they do know of at least three other americans being held captive right now. is it isis? we don't know. but we do know in that terror video that was released on youtube yesterday, what they said was unless the united states stops bombing isis -- this is in retaliation because there is the general side on
that mountain and retaking of the mosul dam, unless we stop, more americans will lose their lives. >> the bombings have been effective with regard to the dam, with regard to the mountain top, and with regard to irbil. obviously they're feeling the pain of american air strikes. >> the concern over the foreign fighters and those that have many upwards of what they are that iing may be up to 880 british nationals may be involved in jihad-related activity for isis with potential passports to travel throughout europe, raising concern. >> right. >> you put your finger on that earlier in the show reading other press accounts before this report came across the wires, the notion that a british national would somehow be involved with this strikes fear in the hearts of all people committed to fighting isis and terrorism in the world. >> absolutely. so apparently they have identified the voice of the executioner on the video.
if you're just waking up, that is -- that man right there was executed on camera. he was beheaded by the man in the mask who apparently is a british national. the american is 40 years old, was james wright foley. he was a teacher who became a photo journalist. he went to the hot spots all around the world, in particular he was in syria most recently. that's where he was captured. but before that, he was actually kidnapped back in 2011 in libya after he was released, bill o'reilly invited him on his program. so here is james foley who was executed by isis when he was on with o'reilley in 2011. >> how were you there all together? >> 44 days. >> that's a long time. >> yeah. it was a long time. >> they let you make a couple calls? >> they let me make one call to my mother. after that, tremendous feeling of relief.
>> let her know you were alive. >> yes. first time i heard the rest of the world knew about me. >> all you knew about afghanistan, iraq, now libya, where is the most dangerous place? >> libya, because these revolutionaries are not trained yet. >> you don't have they u.s. troops there? >> that's for sure. >> so sad to see him right there and know what happened to him. >> yeah. it is incredible. about a year and four months after that, he was taken captive, "fox & friends" heard from the parents of daniel pearl who was murdered in early 2002. they said we send our deepest condolences to his family. we know what they're going through and are available if we can be of any help in their time of need. we hope that the civilized world takes more seriously the growing threat of terrorism and the ideology that breeds it. it's a threshold question today, steve and elisabeth, will we be terrorized by this event or will americans be galvanized by this event? i believe, and i think we all believe, that americans will be
galvanized and strengthened in the end by this event. it's wake-up call for a lot of people. >> that statement given by family members just so poignant and heartfelt and meaningful. in the meantime, we'll turn to ainsley who joins us this morning with so much more going on. >> absolutely. can you believe all this news today? let's start with the tragedy hitting pope francis' family. his nephew's wife and two young children are dead after a car crash in argentina. they were returning home from a weekend vacation when the car slammed into the back of a truck near buenos aires. the pope's nephew was hospitalized and is in serious condition. the feds spending your tax dollars to feed terrorists that are on hunger strikes at gitmo. news is reporting now that the federal government is spending $300,000 on liquid nutritional supplements to feed those prisoners. about half of that money was spent on more than 160,000 cans
of vanilla ensure. the report claiming detainees apparently prefer that taste, that flavor. and democratic congressman charles rangel censured by the house in 2010 now complaining that he didn't get a fair deal. he just got a november appeals court date in his lawsuit against congress who censured the new york democrat back in 2010. rangel claims the house failed to give him due process when it investigated him. it's one of the most inspirational speeches from the most unlikely place. the losing team. after winning the new england region, a heart breaking loss sent a rhode island team home from the little league world series. some of the boys were in tears until these words came from their coach. take a listen. >> no disappointment, okay. for your effort, okay, and the whole tournament and the whole season. it's been an incredible journey.
you guys are going to bring back something, okay, that no other team can provide but you guys. that's pride. okay? pride. >> the coach then asked them to come in for a big hug. those are your headlines. >> big hearts in this small state where i was born there. well done to those gentlemen and that coach. >> i've had to give that speech as a softball coach. but you know what always turns those frowns upside down? okay, kids, you did your best. now let's go to dairy queen. >> yeah! >> ice cream. >> pride and baseball go together. pride of rhode island. >> that is so true. >> we got extreme weather to talk about. maria molina joins us from the streets of new york city. >> that's right. good morning. yesterday across portions of arizona, we have showers and storms roll through that area producing up to a half foot of rain and significant flash flooding. people had to be rescued out there near the phoenix area from
their cars, you can see right there on your screen how extreme that flooding was. and also had to be rescued from their homes. there is a chance today from additional showers and storms. part of the reason we saw extreme flooding across arizona is not just because of the amount of rainfall, but also because it's very dry out here. we have drought conditions. that means that creates a lot of runoff when this water does come down when you get that heavy rainfall. again, a chance for additional storms today. across portions of the northern plains, this does include parts of south dakota, parts of minnesota, iowa. we have the risk for severe weather today. some tornadoes, damaging winds and large hail will be possible and temperature wise, feeling very much like summer. from the southeast to the plains. on the cool side along parts of the west coast, only 70 in san francisco. it's going to feel like the 60s across parts of san francisco. take a look at what it's going to feel like in san antonio and memphis and new orleans. triple digit heat this afternoon. stay cool out there. let's head back inside.
>> all right. thank you very much. coming up, the department of veterans affairs supposed to be cleaning up its act. not so much. a brand-new report says they're still up to the same sickening delays. that's coming up. and texas governor rick perry thumbing his nose at those felony charges. but what he did next goes where no so-called criminal suspect has gone before.
all right. time for fox news headlines. the administration will start giving travelers on its no fly list a way to get off the no fly list. federal judge ruled the current policy is unconstitutional 'cause there is no real way to challenge the list if you're on it. the changes will start over the next six months. and veterans affairs administration still up to its
old tricks apparently. a brand-new report revealing a medical center in georgia canceled more than 1500 appointments to meet backlog goals. weren't those people watching the news? more than 600 of those patients wound up not getting care at all. that's the news. but there is more, isn't there? >> sure is. texas governor rick perry gets booked on felony, quote, abuse of power charges and vows to fight them, thumbing his nose at criminal charges and what he did after that has everybody talking about it this morning. anna kooiman joins me with more on his firey speech, to say the least. good morning to you. >> good morning. claiming his innocence, governor rick perry greeted by cheers as he showed up at the travis county courthouse in austin, texas. well, turning himself in, he had his fingerprints and a mug shot taken. there he is. the governor facing two felony
charges of abuse of power. he was indicted by a grand jury friday on charges he abused his office and tried to customers an elected official to resign. this indictment stems from the drunk driving arrest of travis county district attorney, a democrat, you see her here, rose mary lehmberg. governor perry called for her to resign after her arrest and she refused to step down. so the governor vetoed $7.5 million in state funding for the public integrity unit overseen by lehmberg. now if convicted, they carry prison sentences of up to 100 years. governor perry promising to fight these charges. >> this indictment is nothing short of an attack on the constitutional powers of the office of governor. i'm going to fight this injustice with every fiber of my being. and we will prevail!
>> what's got everybody really talking this morning, come to your screen and look. this photograph shortly after leaving the courthouse, the governor tweeted this photograph of himself eating an ice cream cone seemingly unphased about just being booked. perry may be eyeing a 2016 presidential run is set to be arraigned on friday. but he is not required to be there. you saw the signs of people coming to his support, keep calm and veto on. governor perry and his legal team saying giving 7 1/2 million dollars to this woman that we didn't feel was fit for office, we're acting in the interest of texas residents. >> right. that's a story that may stand to be a strengthening moment for the governor moving into 2016 as you noted. >> may actually endear him more to republicans. >> cool in the face of possibly 109 years of sentencing there. the ice cream i bet helps that. >> thanks. >> thank you. kids' snacks and road trips sounds like a recipe for disaster, doesn't it? not so fast.
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certainly in southern louisiana. i am briana keilar. that is it for me. wolf blitzer will be back here on monday after his couple weeks of granddad duty. thank you very much for watching. "erin burnett out front" starts now. breaking news -- the clinton campaign accusing trump of pushing ku klux klan values. an explosive new charge tonight. plus, the trump campaign's new ceo accused of attacking his ex-wife. the details from that case coming to light. and a sitting governor leaves a profanity-laced, threatening voicemail. we'll talk to the lawmaker who got that message. let's go "out front." good evening, i'm jim sciutto in for elin burnett.
breaking news, tim kaine equating klan values with trump values. >> he has supporters like david duke connected with the ku klux klan who are going around and saying donald trump is their candidate because donald trump is pushing their values. ku klux klan values, david duke values, donald trump values are not american values. they're not our values, and we've got to do all we can to fight to push back and win. >> reporter: this is the latest attack in an increasingly explosive war of words, particularly over race. each candidate accusing the other of bigotry and racism. moments ago, rnc spokesman sean sponsor tweeted, "kkk comments are reprehensible and over the top. democrats who don't denounce are complicit." miguel marquez, both campaigns digging in on this increasingly aggressive line of attack.
>> it is aggressive. they are digging in. it may be the dog days of summer, but you wouldn't know it by the fact that the hot-button issue of race is playing center stage in presidential politics. >> a man with a long history of racial discrimination who traffics in dark conspiracy theories drawn from the pages of supermarket tabloids and these kind of white supremacist, white nationalist, anti-semitic groups should never run our government or command our military. >> reporter: clinton and her campaign, keeping up a blistering race-based offense against donald trump. >> ku klux klan values, david duke values, donald trump values are not american values. >> reporter: trump rejecting outright support from david duke or other white supremacists. >> do you want white supremacists to vote for you? >> no, i don't at all. not at all. >> reporter: clinton citing trump's hiring of breitbart
edtor steve bannon to run his campaign. his tirades against immigrants, americans, muslims, mexican americans, this tv ad running in swing states. >> what do you have to lose? you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. >> reporter: trump hitting back -- >> hillary clinton is a bigot. >> reporter: insisting clinton has the race problem. >> they are often the kinds of kids that are called super predators. >> reporter: trump releasing this instagram video highlighting a term clinton used in 1996. many see it as racist. she has apologized for it, but it has dogged her campaign. >> it was a racist term, and everybody knew it was a racist term. >> reporter: keep in mind that most polls show that minority voters have already made up their minds about these candidates. so the use of race in this situation seems to be candidates who are trying to point out that the other candidate, and this is for sort of moderate independent white voters out there, that
other -- that the other candidate is worse on race. >> thank you very much. "out front," patrick healy, "new york times" political correspondent covering the 2016 presidential campaign. clinton supporter bazell smickel, boris epstein, clinton supporter bacari sellers, trump supporter paris denard, and correspondent for "the new york times," as well. you heard sean spicer moments ago saying democrats have to denounce these comments. do they? >> no. i mean -- and sean's a good friend of mine. let me raise my hand as being one complicit in the charge and assertion. for many people, especially young african-american millennials who i talk to a regular pace is, our fathers, our mothers got an opportunity to beat back many of the project disses, xenophobia, bigotry, hatred of the '50s, '60s, '70s. there are many thanks donald trump espousing.
the xenophobia, bigotry, racism. having white nationalist say he's speaking to us, i think it's more than troublesome. trump has to do more than say i don't think i want their vote. he has to do what john mccain did. he has to do what bob dole did. he has to say that this has no place in the republican party. >> boris, the difference here is -- they're not hinting that these are related to. tim kaine equating them with kkk values. >> first of all, i was shocked to see tim kaine on the trail. i thought he was sleeping for the past month. haven't seen him at all. he looked very weak. weak attack dog. pathetic. this line started because donald trump went out there and started talking to the african-american communities. talking to the african-american people and saying that we want to revitalize inner cities. and the democrats became so paranoid, they started calling him a bigot and racist to respond. well, who is using race to divide people? not us, not our campaign. it's the democrats, and it's the language by tim kaine, the deplorable language by tim kaine you saw out this. it's disappointing that governor
kaine decided to go this. he has no experience in national politics. that's why he decided to do it. >> so we're paranoid, is that -- >> the bottom line here? >> we're paranoid because -- we're paranoid because a man who is leading a national ticket didn't engage the black community. he spoke at the black community. he talked about black people. he talked about plaque people -- about black people in a way that was condescending and threw up every racial stereotype he could put together. >> no let -- >> i let you talk. let me talk -- i let you talk. now let me talk. >> you don't -- >> let me talk. >> okay. >> the bottom line is is that he has not -- as bacari said, he's not renounced a lot of want support -- >> yes, he disavowed, disavowed, disavowed. >> what he needs to do is if he's going to engage communities of color, go into the community. don't talk about them in absentia like they don't exist. >> he is going to community -- >> what he needed to do, he needed to do that early on.
>> the timing -- >> listen, would you let me talk? >> let him finish. >> i want to let him finish and get your response. >> the fact is what donald trump is doing is incredibly dangerous. and he has not taken any proactive steps to tone it down and stop it. >> all he's doing is saying to the communities we want to revitalize you. we want a better life for everybody. what is wrong with that? >> in those communities -- >> let me say -- >> patrick first -- >> there's been a real run-up of hot language this week. it's worth remembering, though, that hillary clinton and her campaign have boon -- has been using the word "bigoted" to describe donald trump for months now. for months. and there's reason that they can certainly argue for why they've been doing that. >> kkk is a step up -- >> kkk is a step up. donald trump went to mississippi to call mrs. clinton a pigott. that word hadn't -- bigot. that word hadn't been used before. the problem for trump is he's opened himself up. he's vulnerable to this by his sort of hitting on -- attacks on
illegal immigrants. the anti-semitic tweet. the language -- >> any candidate who's running this country for a long time. the -- >> i want to -- if donald trump has a path here with african-americans, why does hillary clinton today have 86% of the black vote to 2% for donald trump? >> a few months ago it was 0%, then 2 -- >> in the margin of error. >> 8% in some polls. >> i see a range. i think what you're seeing is hillary clinton is so desperate and afraid that donald trump is going to connect with the black community because he is speaking -- >> why do those numbers spark fear? 86% to 2%? >> is y -- why is she doing thi? >> i do want to ask managy to pipe in here. the trump campaign pushing, it's not just saying the word
"bigot," but they've released campaign video. i'll show a clip here, bringing up her past statements. let's have a listen. dr. king's dream began to be realized wbr id "wbr5499" when president lyndon johnson passed the civil rights act of 1964. it's as if you are minimizing "i have a dream." it's a nice sentiment, but it took a white president to get blacks to the mountaintop. the damage between the clintons and african-americans in this country might be irreparable. obama's support among hard-working americans, white americans, is weakening. maggie, is there a vulnerability there for hillary clinton? there were certainly bad moments for the clinton campaign in the '08 primary. i covered it. i covered a lot of what she said at the time. she has addressed some of that. she's also addressed things like the super predator line from the crime bill which they've talked about a lot. i think what we've seen with the trump campaign, patrick's right, that clinton has been making a /b
variance of this charge for a while. she's doing two things. she's trying to make it essentially that the pivot trump has been attempting in the last week can't stick, which is what a lot of this is about. trump and his responses to clinton increasingly the last couple of weeks have basically been she levels a charge, he wbr-id "wbr6189" levels the exact same things back. there is a difference when you have, yes, trump has said the words "i disavow" about david duke. his campaign gets defensive whenever asked about it. they're trying toing is, whichever reporter raises this, is doing something change or weird. i don't think that trump has a huge chance at improving his appeal among black voters in the way that he's going about this. and perhaps we are wrong and we'll see. what about the community -- we'll be able to get back to this. thankfully we've got more time with you after this break. "out front" next, donald trump's doctor says that he wrote that glowing letter about donald trump's health in just five minutes. was it accurate? plus, trump's campaign
chief, steve bannon, charges of battery and domestic violence in his past now surfacing. the report coming up. and maine's governor threatens a lawmaker. >> i would like to talk to you about your comments about my being a racist, you [ bleep ]. >> the man who got the call will be my guest tonight.
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and at the end, i get rushed, and i get anxious when i get rushed. i tried to get things -- five minutes to write the letter while the driver waited for me. >> now this comes as donald trump and his supporters continue to question hillary clinton's own health. jim acosta is out front tonight. is this going to be an issue for trump, particularly in light of how aggressively he's gone after hillary clinton's health records? >> reporter: i think so. keep in mind, dr. borenstein has been donald trump's personal physician for some 35 years. he's again stating for the record that he believes the gop nominee is physically fit to be president of the united states. dr. borenstein has already released a letter on donald trump's health. we know that. we can put that up on screen. here's a clip. it says, "if elected, mr. trump, i can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. that's obviously a very strong
statement from the doctor there. the doctor told nbc news that he wrote the letter in five minutes while a limousine sent by trump's office was waiting outside of dr. borenstein's office. that's that disschool closu-- d will raise questions about donald trump's physical fitness to be president of the united states. on top of that, as you mentioned, thank you very much and his surrogates have been airing their doubt about whether hillary clinton is physically fit to be president. they've been saying in recent days and including donald trump, he said it himself, doubting whether or not she has the physical and mental stamina to be president. this is something we'll be hearing about, donald trump's personal physician, dr. borenstein told nbc news that in his opinion, trump's health is "excellent," especially his mental health. so the doctor felt it was necessary to emphasize that he also believes that donald trump's mental health is also in excellent shape. obviously this is not the last
we'll be hearing from dr. borenstein. there will be lots of other news outlets including this one, who will want to get this kind of comment from dr. borenstein on the record, as well. jim? >> jim acosta in las vegas. also tonight, other hard questions for the trump campaign. new revelation that's steve bannon, the new head of the campaign, was accused of domestic violence, auto -- keep in mind -- in 1996 by his then-wife. chris frates is out front with the report. the latest shakeup was designed to "let trump be trump." so to do that, he hired steven bannon, head of a right wing website called breitbart.com, as the campaign ceo. >> reporter: now the conservative news chief is drawing headlines of his own. bannon was charged with battery and domestic violence stemming from a 1996 incident involving his then-wife. according to documents obtained by cnn, an argument over money allegedly got physical after bannon's then-wife told him she
wanted a divorce. the responding police officer wrote, "she appeared as if she was very upset and had been crying. i saw this her eyes were red and watery. she first said "oh, thank you, you are here." the police report went on to say that bannon grabbed her pie the neck and wrist pulling her down and leaving red marks where he grabbed her. the report said she fought back, got away from bannon, and dialed 911. neither the trump campaign nor a bannon spokeswoman commented. and bannon is among those who have drawn controversy. former campaign chairman paul manafort's lobbying ties to ukraine and russia and former manager cory lewandowski's rough treatment of a breitbart reporter drew unwanted scrutiny. and defending a decades' old rape accusation that ivana trump later walked back, attorney michael cohen argued, "of course, understand that by the very definition you can't rape your spouse." trump friended unofficial adviser roger ailes left fox news, the channel he founded, following allegations of sexual
harassment. trump seem to invite controversy sometimes. just today news that the campaign hired bill steppan as its national field director. steppian of a top aide and campaign manager to chris christie who was fired after the bridgegate scandal, claiming political retribution. steppian of never charged in the federal investigation. this month, court documents revealed a text between christie's aides said the governor had flat-out lied about steppian not being involved in the lane closures. christie denied there was any truth to the text. shows just how long that controversy-longe -- controvers lingers, some two years. joining us, cnn political corrector. boris, the real question is about the pattern. you have past charges against steve bannon, his new campaign manager. you had lewandowski with what was described as a violent encounter with a female
reporter. you have ailes, forced out of fox news. comes on as an informal adviser to the trump campaign. does this create a cloud around the trump campaign regarding treatment of women? >> let me set the record straight. roger ailes is not an informal adviser. it's not true. whoever's telling you that is not correct. >> he's not advising the campaign in -- the candidate in any way? >> not an informal adviser in the campaign. that's oly petrigrew, in none of the instances -- that's only one. in none of the instances was there a conviction. steve bannon's case was dismissed. he didn't mention that. that was not mentioned in the report. that's something key to mention. >> when you're on the air -- >> when you're talking about somebody. let me finish now. >> i will set the record straight when you're done. >> you're next. >> this was part of a divorce. mr. bannon is still close with his ex-wife. they get along fine. they have raised two college-aged children -- >> the two years came later. >> we're talking about this -- must be a slow friday. we're not talking about the fact
that hillary clinton used bleach bit to wipe all her emails. we're not talking about the fact that she perjured herself in front of congress, not issues -- >> we have talked about. that but -- >> 20-year-old stories about campaign staffers, not the fact that -- hold on -- not the fact that the democrat candidate for president broke the law. that's what we should be talking about. >> tara, on the issue of relation with women and advisers around the trump campaign? >> the reason we're even talking about this is because donald trump continues to surround himself with people who are not competent, that have these sordid history. people think trump will surround himself with the best people. minus kellyanne conway who is phenomenal -- i'm talking now. are we going to start this now, boris? >> the computer -- >> the reason we're talking about this is because of donald trump. as far as the steve bannon case, the reason why the case was
dismissed was because his ex-wife did not testify. the judge threw the case out. he allegedly, according to the divorce papers, she said that he told her and his attorney told her to get out of town. so that she wouldn't get served. >> this is from 20 years ago -- >> no, in the divorce papers. that she was told to leave town so she wouldn't get served and the case would go away. they got divorced later. if it was an abusive relationship, that kind of stuff goes on there. let's not act like it was dismissed because there was nothing there. >> i want to ask maggie a question. we can't entirely adjudicate this case tonight. to this issue of perception because trump has trouble with women voters. 67% of women is an unfavorable opinion of trump. hillary clinton has a 19-point lead among women voters. that in a presidential race. how does he win over voters? >> a couple of things. roger sails advising donald trump -- ailes is advising
donald trump. that is reality. he was involved in a shakeup of the campaign. he's helped -- the times time first reported that. we can -- the "times" first reported that. we can reported that. that's reality. two, steve bannon is not running for president. cory lewandowski is not running for the. but most campaigns go to great pains to check in to the people who come to work for them and backgrounds. there have been three shakeups, and lots of people have come in -- >> manafort, not with women issue, but with -- >> correct. there were reports about his work in the ukraine. at a certain point it becomes a critical mass. i think trump's problem with women voters is his own words. that's what we've looked at. this does become a way that the clinton campaign can focus on it and say look at who he surrounds himself with. you're seeing that now. >> let tara respond. >> i want to give paris a chance, as well. >> this is ridiculous. this is a distraction. if the hillary clinton campaign wants to engage in this dirty politics, we can look no further than bill clinton and his issues with women. or look at anthony weiner who is
someone with a lot of current issues with women and analyze that -- >> think i don't that's the issue -- >> let's to aep's talk about hu aberdeen -- >> that was an unfair attack. briefly, anthony weiner has no role in the clinton campaign. i want to step back. >> the chairman -- >> boris, come on. >> there's only one -- only one piece i want to lay out. i think it's indicative because we don't know what happened 20 years ago. i personally, like many others, don't tolerate domestic violence in any shape, form, or fashion. as maggie was saying, campaigns go to great lengths to vet the people who work with them. i think what's indicative of this hiring of steve bannon -- we know bannon is a racist. when you have someone who has this in their envelope of a resume who has this -- that goes along with them and brings more luggage to the table, when you already have a deficit with
women, it proves not to be prudent or -- >> let's talk about the -- >> abadeen, deputy chairman -- >> i'm giving you a chance to respond -- >> anti-woman, 9/11 truther, anti-semitic and anti-gay. >> we have to go to break, steve bannon's a racist? how do you respond? >> the basis, that's what democrats are doing. they throw out these -- >> we'll have to hold those thought. >> our staffers and candidate -- >> we'll get back to some of these issues. "out front," next, donald trump's ever-changing immigration stance. is it hurting him with his own supporters? and new video of a man who drove a pickup directly into a passenger plane at a major u.s. airport. how could this happen? ♪ there's no one road out there. no one surface... no one speed... no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all.
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tonight, mixed messages on immigration. donald trump sending out conflicting signals about whether or not he will deport 11
million immigrants in the united states illegally. he was until he wasn't until he was again. still, moments ago, a defiant trump insthaftd hispanics -- insisted that hispanics are responding to his campaign. >> we've been doing very, very well with the latinos. we've been doing amazing. far greater, wouldn't you say, than anyone understands. and they want to see jobs come in. we're going to bring jobs. >> why is trump struggling to give a clear answer on what is his core issue? we're "out front" with the big number. >> reporter: donald trump's rapidly evolving position on immigration seems to have come full circle. >> there is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and come back. >> reporter: trump is now ruling out a path way to legal status for the nation's undocumented immigrant. >> no, there's not a pass. there is no path to legalization.
>> you talked about -- >> unless people leave the country -- well, when they come back in, if they come back in, then they can start paying taxes. >> reporter: a sharp departure from his comments made just two days ago. >> there certainly can be a softening because we're not looking to hurt people. >> reporter: tuesday, trump seemed open to providing legal status for undocumented immigrants who had not been viced of crimes. -- been convicted of crimes. >> no citizenship. let me go a step further -- they'll pay back taxes. they have to pay taxes. there's no amnesty as such. there's no amnesty. [ applause ] >> right. >> we work with them. >> reporter: he's walking that back now. >> i don't think it's a softening. i think -- >> 11 million people are no longer being to be departed. >> i've heard people say it's hardening. >> reporter: the gop is not clarifying how he would deal with those in the country illegally and whether he's sticking to his pledge during the primary to deport all undocumented immigrants from the u.s. >> we're going to see what happens, but there's a very good chance the answer could be yes, we're going to see what happens.
before i do anything, i want to get rid of the bad ones. >> reporter: trump backer sarah palin says he risks losing support if he doesn't stand firm on his immigration stance. >> donald trump understands that enforcing the laws and building that wall are paramount to what the will of the people is, and thank god he's still preaching that. if he were not then there would be a huge erosion of support. >> as we wait for more clarity over what exactly is trump's immigration policy, there are some interesting comments from a former bush administration official. paul wolfowitz. he was president george w. bush's deputy secretary of defense. he says he has a lot of concerns about donald trump. he calls him so dangerous that he says he might be forced to cast his vote for hillary clinton instead. >> incredible. thank you very much. my panel back with me. patrick, i want to begin with you. sarah palin there saying maybe a huge erosion of support. does donald trump have a problem here? >> well, as long as he -- from
his point of view keeps saying amnesty and i'm going to build a wall, that's like a safe zone for him. i mean, that's really where the -- the points that they keep trying to push. that conservatives will sort of accept maybe some, you know, sort of practical, you know, thinking that comes out, as long as he's saying those things. look o tuesday he was saying softening. on thursday, to anderson cooper, he's saying hardening. there's a real muddle here. it reminds me of hillary clinton's kind of tortured explanations around the emails that went on for a year. it's like finding your way. the things is that hillary figured out eventually -- trump has 11 weeks to kind of get a large number of undecided voters to come to -- >> i'm going to give you an opportunity, boris. you advise the campaign. what is trump's position? deport the 11 million or not deport? >> the position is multilayer. first, all those illegal immigrants who have committed crimes in this country are deported. >> that's not all the 11 million. which was his original position.
>> two -- and that's what happened in san francisco. we prevent that. 300,000 illegal immigrants, criminals allowed to stay in this country under president obama. >> focus on the criminals. let's be frank, that's a tiny percentage. i want to know, he said definitively they're going to go. then he said they aren't. then he said again -- >> as to illegal immigrants who are not criminals which will be deported, those will be dealt with according to the laws on the box now. additional laws, the constitution. and humanely. donald trump has been consistent. we've done the comparison -- >> we don't have much time. i want to give tara a chance to respond on that issue. you say he's been clear throughout. the fact is even his own supporters say he hasn't been clear. >> he's not been very clear on this. that's why we've seen the flip-flops back and forth for days. that's why the immigration speech was postponed. he polled the audience, for goodness sakes, when he was on "hannity" the other day. should we kick him out? he's all over the place on this, clearly.
donald trump from the beginning said they all have to go. he ran on this issue. this is what put him above the rest during the primary season. separated him from other people. now -- now he's actually so desperate that he's citing the obama administration figures about deportation which aren't even accurate. so he is -- >> the problem with his base, the problem with the base is if he's saying we're going to enforce the laws on the books, that's what -- >> that's what obama is doing. same things -- >> there's a chance -- >> give paris a chance to respond. can you clear it up? can you clear up what the position is? >> it's very clear. mr. trump is consistent as it relates to his position on illegal immigration. >> not on deportation? >> the fundamentals are there. we've got to build the wall, fix a broken system. that is tied to jobs and the economy. the issue that a lot of people responded to with donald trump was not necessarily about immigration. it was about the jobs and bringing jobs back to this country which is tied to immigration. so -- >> the point, in the primaries, anyone who said anything, cruise, rubio, bush, about
anything short of kicking them out, he called them a weakling. >> i think that's correct. the accurate term now is a mess of public policy on the big stage, something we don't see a lot, especially when it is why you got elected to be -- it was the number-one issue in exit polls throughout the country. every time we had exit polls, the number-one reason that people came out to vote and voted for donald trump in large numbers -- >> it was immigration. >> it was immigration. what we're seeing now is -- although boris laid out what we believe to be his immigration policy, although that's not necessarily what he said last night, what he did was he called amnesty by another name. that's exactly what it is. and i'm going to channel my inner rush limbaugh. i heard rush i believe it was yesterday morning. rush said it is amazing to him that first they started with the gang of eight. and then they tried jeb bush. and the person to bring amnesty to the base of the republican party -- >> rush limbaugh laughed when he brought that point up. >> i quoted rush limbaugh. >> you heard sarah palin tee
that up. she warns of an erosion of support. it's too early to see it in the numbers. is that a risk here? if not to have them vote, say, for hillary clinton, maybe not to show up at the polls? >> it is certainly a risk when you have people like sarah palin, when you have people, ann coulter initially was on twitter saying, well, maybe it's not that bad. she said she's not leaving him. you is had people who are immigration hard-liners such as congressman steve king of iowa who recently endorsed trump. he had been a cruz person, say he think this could be problematic. and another hard-liner essentially said bluntly he thinks trump blew the election. i think that's an overstatement. i think a lot of trump supporters are with him. they're not going to leave him. and they hear, you know, the side of what he says that they like, and they stick with that. i think the problem is that, again, we are spending a third or fourth night trying to decipher where he is on a really key policy issue that -- that the country has tried to deal with for something like 12, 14 years now. and he's not giving a speech next week, as it turns out. they've cancelled it again.
but at the same time, if you think about the week -- this is what makes republicans who would like to win the white house back who don't back trump very upset, think about the week hillary clinton could be having. >> right. >> there could be a lot of focus on the emails. there could be a lot of focus on an important question that anderson cooper asked her which was -- and there's still not a clear response to this, as to, you know, if -- if the foundation needs to be sort of wrapped up in a certain way, if she becomes with the, why wasn't it the case when she was secretary of state. and that is not the focus in part because of this. >> i'd love to talk about that. >> lost opportunity. >> i'd love to talk about if that -- >> i think he got the chance to talk about the clinton foundation and say we should give them benefit of the doubt. the question is, does he want to win -- >> we have to leave it there. folks, thank you. we covered a lot in a short time. appreciate it. next, maine's governor challenges one of his lawmakers to a duel. that lawmaker is out front tonight. and breaking news, new video from a security breach at a u.s. airport as a man rams a truck into a passenger plane about to take off.
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tonight maine's governor under fire after leaving an expletive-laced and threatening voicemail for a state lawmaker. phil mattingly out front with more on this story. we want to warn you, some of the language is clearly inappropriate. i would like to talk to you about your comment it my being a racist, you [ bleep ]. >> reporter: that's maine governor paul lepage, his target, a state lawmaker lepage thought had called him racist. the governor did not hold back. >> i want you to brief that i'm a racist. i spent my life helping black people, and you little [ bleep ] socialist [ bleep ]. i need you to -- i want you to record this and make it public because i'm after you. thank you. point and in a page right out of the 19th century, the governor
later challenges him to a duel. >> that's how angry i am. and i bet -- i would put my gun in the air, guarantee you. i would not be hamilton. i'd point it right between his eyes. >> reporter: lepage is no stranger to controversy. >> i was donald trump before donald trump became popular. >> reporter: something he himself acknowledged in his endorsement of donald trump earlier this year. the parallels if further. an outsider riling up the establishment. a fighter willing to go to the mat with political foes. lepage's daughter even works for trump's campaign. and yes, he's a politician with a history of not-so politically correct comments. from strong words to president obama -- >> as your governor, you're going to be seeing a lot of me on the front page saying, governor lepage tells obama to go hell. >> reporter: to punctuating a
dispute with the naacp like this -- >> tell them to kiss my butt. >> reporter: and recently on the father of a muslim american soldier killed in action in iraq. >> then there's the mighty powerful ones like mr. khan which is a con artist himself. and he uses the death of his son, who's an american soldier, which we respect and honor. he uses that to go after trump which i found very distasteful. >> reporter: it's comments related to the state's heroin crisis that have followed lepage for months. >> these are guys that are named dmone, smoothie, shifty, these type of guys from connecticut and new york. they come up here. they sell their heroin, then they go back home. incidentally, half the time they impregnate a young, white girl before they leave. which is a real sad things because then we have another issue that we've got to deal with down the road. >> reporter: jim, the governor's office put out a lengthy
statement later today apologizing to the maine people for the language in the voicemail, but not the voicemail itself. as for the duel, the statement made clear -- it was just a metaphor. he didn't actually think dueling was still legal. >> he did talk about pointing his gun at a has head. thank you very much. the man who received the voicemail, democratic state representative drew giti no, ne. the governor called you a lot of things i cannot repeat on the air, multiple times. what's your response? >> well, it was pretty shocking to get that voicemail yesterday. i have never received a voicemail like that before. and it's -- you know, this is a governor, as you pointed out, who continues to cross the line. and every time you think he's crossed a line, you think he can't go any further, he draws another line and crosses it. this is a pattern of behavior with this governor, and i think it's unfortunate.
the maine people deserve a lot better from their governor. and from the leader of our state. >> has he spoken to you since then? has he pulled any of this pack, at least apologized for some of the vitriol in that call? >> no. he hasn't pulled anything back. you know, any comments that he has made to me. that's not his style. this is a governor that likes to double down. it doesn't surprise me that, you know, he hasn't pulled back the statements. and i don't really expect him to. >> now, he says he made the call because -- he says that called him a racist or a reporter told him that you called him a racist. did you accuse him of being a racist? >> no. i -- i'm not aname caname-- a name-calle. i said the racist comment are
not going to help with us the serious problems we have in maine. we need to focus on prevention. we need to focus on treatment. we're not spending enough to treat people who are extremely ill with substance disorder, and we need to support law enforcement. the governor seems to want to continue to make this a conversation about race. and seems obsessed and fixated with the race of people who are importing drugs in our state. and yofng that kind of conversation is going to help solve the problem. that's what i said yesterday, and that's what i believe today. >> what is the difference between accusing the governor of being a racist and of uttering racially charged comments? >> i think there's a big difference. you know -- calling somebody a racist is one of the worst things you can ever call somebody. and it's not something that i've ever called anybody, frankly. and again, i'm not going to engage in name-calli d-calling governor. i think it was wrong for the governor to interject every time we talk it this issue, issues
about race. i think the issue and the problem we need to solve is about the fact that we're not investing enough in treatment. people who need treatment can't get it here in maine. this governor's policies are making it much more difficult for them to get treatment. and that's why i think we need to focus our attention. >> drew gatti no, sir, democratic legislator from maine, thanks for joining us. >> thank you very much for having me on. "out front" next, just in, new video. a man gets past security, rams his pickup truck to a passenger plane at a major u.s. airport. that's next. ♪
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tonight, a frightening scene at omaha's main airport, after a man jumped a security fence and rammed a truck into a passenger plane full of passengers on the tarmac. we now have new video of the man behind this major security breach. that is him there. kyung lah is outfront. >> we looked over to the left side of the plane and there was this truck, you know, like ramming into the plane next to us. >> reporter: stunned, omaha, nebraska, passengers captured the moment a truck slamming into
the nose of a southwest plane. [ screaming ] >> the driver here on this gurney was erratic, screaming and wearing only his boxer shorts. >> we just got a report of a person possibly jumping the fence over at the airport. >> reporter: airport radio tower traffic caught the moments before the crash. officers were chasing after 35-year-old delrio kuntz in an outside parking garage outside the omaha airport's perimeter. >> the suspect at some point in the garage removed his pants. >> reporter: and then climbed over a 8-foot fence topped with eight strands of bashed wire. police say kuntz found a white pickup truck, engine running. >> apparently, somebody jumped in a truck on the runway. >> he ran into a southwest 737 just in front of the tower. >> i think he was trying to get away from the officers. every time the officers were approaching, he tried to elude them. >> this incident, says aviation
experts, is an example of a larger aviation security problem. >> the backside of our airports are generally not secure enough. that is a fact. we need to really think about enhancing the perimeter of security, 360 degrees around the airplanes. >> a report released this year looked at tsa security breaches from 2009 through 2015. it says on average, u.s. airports had 2,500 breaches every year. some involving perimeter and airport access points. and those security breaches are trending upward. there are numerous examples. april 2014. that's a 15-year-old jumping out of a plane's wheel well in maui. the teenage stowaway snuck into the wheel well in san jose, making it to hawaii undetected. philadelphia, march, 2012. police are chasing a jeep that broke through a chain link fence and drove on to several runways, forcing planes to circle the
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good morning. it's saturday, june 4th, 2016. i'm sandra smith. this is a fox news alert. the greatest of all time is dead. >> everybody stop talking now. attention. i told you, all of my critics. i told you all that i was the greatest of all time. >> boxing legend muhammed ali passing overnight. we will have the latest on his passing. the incredible reaction to that news. we will take a look back at the life and legacy of the champ. "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪
>> good morning. as we just told you, muhammed ali, the greatest evey weight champion in boxing passed away at the age of 74. he struggled with parkison's disease since 1971. surrounded with children and his wife. >> he fought until the end. appearances as late as april of this year in public. a three-time heavyweight world champion hospital lied with respiratory and of course, exasperated by the park somebody's. >> take place in his home state of louisville, kentucky. half state at 10:00 a.m. >> the former cautious cash shut clay. he called himself the greatest of all time. boxer muhammed ali has died. he had parkison's for 30
years. he famously changed his name, of course, after becoming the world heavyweight champion to mohammed alli when he became a member of the black muslim organization. >> in his final days, he was admit to do a phoenix hospitals, that happening on thursday with a respiratory problem. alli's accomplishments are stunning. having won the world heavyweight title a record three times. winning 56 of 61 fights. 37 of them by knockout. >> his impact on the world will ever be felt beyond the ring as brian kilmeade shows us the fury that flew like a burt wing and stung like a be. >> he emerged the heavyweight champion of the world. muhammed ali was born
cassius clay. january 17th, 1942 clay started boxing at the age of 12. after winning a gold medal in the 1960 olympics. i turned pro. after the listen fight that he announced his affiliation with the nation of islam and changed his name to muhammed ali. >> it's hard to be humble as great as i am. >> in 1967, he was drafted into the u.s. army but refused to fight in vietnam, stating religious differences. he was immediately stripped of his title and license to box. alli's. he got his chance against george former. the fight billed as the rumble in the jungle. he wecht in as an underdog but that wasn't enough to silence the greatest. >> i injured a stone.
hospitalized a bring. i'm so mean i make medicine sick. >> he spent the first fight punch himself out. he would drop foreman in the eighth round. he would once again be the heavyweight champion of the world. both ali and former took home a $5 million purse which many feel paved the way for today's multi-million-dollar contracts in any sport. >> before ali, pays were very minimal. during ali's time they grew. as ali they exploded. >> i lost the title again four years later to another gold olympic medalist against spinks. he relinquished the title back to ali seven months later. this made ali the only boxer in history to win the heavyweight title three times. [ applause ] >> the roaring crowds are what fueled him for 15 years and 61 fights. but his drive to please them kept ali from heeding
doctor's warnings. he was slowing down. his thyroid was blamed. medication was a daily routine. it wasn't until losing his last fight in 1981 ali admitted parkison's syndrome was the real enemy keeping him out of the ring for good. despite parkison's syndrome, ali's work with the community would never stop. his work around the globe applauded. then, 1996, another high. muhammed ali was chosen to light the olympic flame in atlanta. in 2002 ali went to afghanistan as the u.n. messenger of peace. he was in kabul for three day goodwill mission. three days later alis would woo accept the nation's highest civilian award. >> when you say the greatest of all time is in the room, everyone knows who you mean. >> president george w. bush presented ali with the presidential medal of freedom during ceremonies at the white house. even as he neared 70 years
of age, ali remained dedicated to the humanitarian evident despite his deteriorating health. he made a rare public appearance to show his respect at his greatest rival's funeral joe frazier. >> he could float like a butterfly and sting like a be. when we think the greatest, we will always think muhammed ali. brian kilmeade, fox news. >> we want to bring in tim shanahan as the author of "running with the champ" my 40 year friendship of muhammed ali. nice to see you this morning, tim. first, just your thoughts overnight of the passing of your friend? >> well, the first thing i thought of was what he told me years ago he looked at every day as a test. god tests me every day and i pass that test every day. he looked at life as god having a tabulation on
everyone's individual life by putting all the good deeds on one side and all the bad deeds on the other side. and he told me that he was ready to go to heaven because all of his good deeds outweigh all of his bad deeds. these how he looked at life. >> huh. so his wife was famously intertwined with his faith. he converted to islam as a young man in early 20's and converted to another version of islam in the 70's and still to a third later on. he was a man of faith. in private, was it often a topic of conversation. >> not -- he didn't talk a lot about it with friends and family, but he was a devout muslim for sure. and every day he read the quran. and one of his habits was picking out passages from the quran and then writing it longhand. and he would give those as gifts to family and friends. he had one passage that he really liked.
that he gave to everybody. and at the end of the passage it says to, the person is he going to give it to from muhammad ali. ' he loved passing pamphlets out with that as far as his faith he really was a devout muslim. he never smoked, never drank, never took drug. was always looking how he could please god. he did say god, you know, early on when he was a muslim he always said allah. but he said god is -- god for all people. and all religions. so, he always said god. and he always want to do please god every day. >> tim, his life was not without controversy, as someone who calls himself a close frebsd of muhammad ali. what do you know about how he wants to be remembered? amid-all the good times there were bad times and he
did face challenges in his life. how do you look back on those times? >> well, one of the comments he always made to me was my middle name is controversy. and he was always looking for an argument. somebody to talk to to have an opposite side of his. he always like to do defend his positions. as far as legacy. one time i asked him what do you think your legacy is going to be muhammad? and he said my children. and then i said well what about your fight? your career? is there any one moment in your career that you said this is the greatest moment of my boxing career? and he said it was the first liston fight when he was 22 years old and he won the heavyweight championship for the first time. he said this big, ugly bear. this ex-con convict was going to kill this 22-year-old kid in the ring. and he told me was scared. and he was scared before the
fight. but as soon as the first round was over and he was in the ring with liston, he got confidence. he said man, he didn't knock me out, i think i can win this fight. he got excited rather than scared. he said at that moment he realized he was going to be the heavyweight champion of the world. as far as legacy, i said what is the greatest moment in your career? and he always leaves with the greatest moment in my life was when my eldest daughter, meriam was born. and he always leads with that. and then he talks about the fight. but he has told me that the legacy that he wants to be known by is his children. and i can name all of them. >> how many did he have? >> hanna, hanna jr. kayleah and mea. they all love him all. >> as soon as they heard their father was i will they
were by his side. we will check back with you in alittle bit later. the book is called "running with the champ my 40 year friendship with muhammad ali." >> that thing was the biggest thing to happen to maine. liston was a bruiser. nobody thought that was going to happen. the aftermath of that fight a lot of speculation maybe he threw the fight. people didn't believe it was on the level that it was legitimate. >> the euphoria that unfolded after that him on the microphone. that's when we got to see muhammad ali grabbing the microphone almost like a professional wrestling grabbing the microphone. that great relationship with him and howard cosell over the years. the back and forth he would touch howard cosell. you touch me again i'm going to kill. >> you he may have meant that obviously very charming guy but a ferocious guy, too. joe frazier be and he had
this very contentious relationship that was never healed with frazier's death where he attacked frazier as a tool of the establishment and a sell out to his people and really got inside's frazier's head. it was bitter. >> i love how it all started. somebody stole his bike from the bike rack, so he want to do shape up and be able to take care of whoever stole his bike. >> nuclear reactor of rage that led to his success. >> other top story. war of worlds between hillary clinton and donald trump. a live report from the golden state next. our coverage of muhammad ali's death will continue. we are live outside the hospital where he passed away as we say good by to humid ali. >> want to go to heavy -- heaven so i -- i'm the king of the world. i'm a mad man. i took out the world. i took out the world. i took out the world. e #1) when returning home from deployment,
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hey, welcome back. just days away from the california primary, the battle between democrats heating up to clinch the golden state. >> meanwhile, hillary clinton looking ahead and taking aim at donald trump with the presumptive g.o.p. nominee firing back at her attack. >> the great mike emanuel joins us live from santa monica, california on the campaign trail. >> good morning to you. hillary clinton says donald trump constantly attacks so people get distracted looking at the shiny october. meanwhile clinton attacked donald trump on his economic ideas. >> when i hear donald trump talk about cutting taxes on billionaires. [crud booing] >> i say to myself, hey, wait a minute, fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on us. >> trump is also campaigning out here in the golden
state, wants to put california in play in the general election and fundraising off what is a huge source out here in california. last night in redding, trump blasted clinton saying if voters choose her, the country is going to die. >> hillary clinton is totally scripted. hillary clinton is a thief. and hillary clinton should be in jail. the only problem is i like to run against her. >> then there is bernie sanders who is going all out to win california on tuesday. he continues doing rallies and news conferences up and down the golden state. sanders says he has an excellent chance to win here and using his moment in the spotlight to push clinton on environment mental issues. >> we have a tax on carbon. [cheers and applause] and i would urge secretary clinton to change her view and support me. [cheers and applause] in demanding a tax on carbon.
>> despite the difficult delegate math for bernie sanders, make no mistake about it, is he hoping to embarrass hillary clinton out here in the golden state on tuesday night. back to you guys in new york. >> all right. thanks, mike. >> mike emanuel, that is -- just makes me laugh the idea that donald trump is in the pocket of moneyed interest. who is taking more money from wall street hillary clinton or donald trump? it's literally not even close. >> obviously it's one of hillary clinton's biggest sources of funding and has been for a long time. >> well, michelle obama in a rare public speech, rare political speech going after donald trump. she chose this university specifically. she chose ccny which is a public college, immigrant rich college in new york. over 150 different languages spoken. that's specifically why she want to do speak in front of that audience when she said this. watch. >> despite the lessons of our history and the truths of your experience here at city colleges, some folks out there today seem to have a very different
perspective. they seem to view our diversity as a threat to be contained rather than as a resource to be tapped. [cheers] >> they tell us to be afraid of those who are different, to be suspicious of those with whom we disagree. here in america, we don't give in to our fears. we don't build up walls to keep people out because we know that our greatness has always depended on contributions from people who were born elsewhere. [ applause ] but sought out this country and made it their home. >> what a demagogue. in other words, if you disagree with michelle obama mall you are a racist. that's what we have heard for quite some time. accuse other people bad wanting to build walls. a person living in a house in which walls are built to protect her. >> she never mentioned by name. >> she was talking directly about him building walls.
but she did, however, talk about colin powell, former secretary of state who went there and talked about him being the son of an imgrant. she drew those parallels. >> nobody is against immigrants, but this administration has let in twice the number of immigrants as the number of jobs that have been created during the obama administration. so like how does that work exactly? why is that good for anybody who lives here or anybody who comes here? >> coming up, the mainstream media celebrated hillary clinton's foreign policy speech. >> donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. >> what did the voters think of it? lee carter gives us the dial treatment next. >> and then our coverage of muhammad ali's death continues. we're live outside the hospital where the boxing champion passed away as we say good by to the greatest. >> i don't have a mark on my
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we are working to confirm that information. family spokesperson a short while ago sent out an email
saying there will be a media briefing in a few hours. we expect to learn more about the funeral arrangements for muhammad ali. we do know he will be buried in his hometown of louisville, kentucky. a family spokesperson said after, quote, a 32 year battle with parkison's disease muhammad ali has passed away at the age of 74. the heavyweight boxer died this evening. then on thursday the day before ali's death, his daughter posted this status to facebook saying i love this photo of my father and my daughter sydney when she was a baby. thanks for all the love and well-wishes. i feel your love and appreciate. here in phoenix muhammad ali helped found the parkison's center in phoenix. that hospital aims to aid those also stricken with the same disease. parkinson's disease which muhammed ali suffered from. clayton? >> matt live for us in morning in scottsdale where muhammad ali passed away. thanks, manual. tucker, over to you.
>> the gloves are off this morning in the golden state with the press touting hillary clinton's attacks as a turning point for her as she moves upward in the general election. how do voters feel about it? that's the real question to. answer it pollster lee carter joins us. new dial tests. good morning, lee. >> good morning. >> so, this was the consensus in every paper in politico and all tuggers were convinced hillary clinton's speech attacking trump on foreign policy basically changed the race. did it? >> i don't think so. i really don't. i think it's not surprising to see the democrats loved it not surprising to say that republicans did not. but independents, it's real interesting to see how they tracked. we should take a look across these dials how they responded. >> okay. so here's the first bite we are going to play hillary on trump's temperament. >> making donald trump our commander in chief would be a historic mistake. and it would undo so much of the work that republicans and democrats alike have done. over many decades to make
america stronger and more secure. it boo set back our standing in the world more than anything in recent memory. and it would fuel an ugly narrative about who we are. >> and so you can see that the democrats across the top of the line a said she did a fantastic job. independents and republicans both gave her an f. this was the most interesting thing to me. one of the independents said she might be right but i'm not sure that she is any better. so there is still this real trust gap that she has. she can put this out there and cause doubts about donald trump. independent voters they still have doubts about her. >> she can hurt him but doesn't necessarily help herself? >> that's right. >> interesting. >> here is hillary on national pride. watch this. >> imagine if he had not just his twitter account at his disposal when he is angry but america's entire arsenal. do we want him making those calls? someone thin-skinned and quick to anger who lashes out at the smallest
criticism. do we want his finger anywhere near the button? >> no. >> i have a lot of faith that the american people will make the right decision. this is a country with a deep reservoir of common sense and national pride. >> well, i'm no hillary voter, i thought that was a pretty effective line though. >> you know what? i will agree. what we heard from voters, we said what is the most effective attack? what stands out to you? that idea that donald trump is thin-skinned. that is the one thing that she said people were repeating and really scares them because we can't afford to have a president who is thin skinned. independents and republicans here basically said this was a pretty good argument. independents even came back a little bit to the middle. they gave it more like a c. especially when she started saying i believe in the american people. we have deep sense of common sense. people really respond to do that they want us to show that we are great america. they want her talking about the positives more than the attacks. the attack when she went on
thin skin that's when it stuck. >> interesting. here is trump's response to what she said, watch. >> crooked hillary said oh, donald trump, his finger on the button. i'm the one that didn't want to go into iraq, folks. and she is the one that stupidly raised her hand to go into iraq and destabilize the entire middle east. >> so that was a very typical donald trump tone and response and feedback and independents, republicans gave him a b. it wasn't the ever done. weighs a right to swing back. he made a good point. democrats not surprisingly gave it an f. still independents said if she is going to come at him for that he has every right to come back swinging. >> interesting he went after her on iraq. not just libby but on iraq. >> lee carter, thanks a lot for that. >> any time. great to be here. >> she is a convicted cop killer hiding out in cuba. is there a deal in the works to bring her back to america to face justifiable? we have details on that story coming up. and firemen called terrorists because they put
the american flag on their truck. it's a shocking story. we have a big update this morning. the fireman's union president joins us live just ahead.
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>> one of the most iconic quotes from muhammad ali. the world is mourning the boxing legend this morning. muhammad passing away at the age of 74. >> passed away from respiratory complications. >> world reacting to the death of muhammad ali. >> i was so overwhelmed i couldn't believe that i met him when i was young. i met muhammad ali. him touching me, me shaking hands with muhammad ali. it made me want to go out there legend. a man that's going to be truly missed. a man that i loved. >> tributes pouring in on social media as well. our own adam housley has more from los angeles this morning on this story. good morning, adam. >> good morning, guys. all throughout the night we have been monitoring this. the #s, for or five gotten close to 1 million retweets or postst. penal posting their thoughts
on muhammad ali whether you knew him or didn't. people who had no thoughts leaving thoughts and people who knew the man. don king put out a statement like he will never die. he stood for the world. george foreman, muhammad ali is one of the greatest human beings i ever met. no doubt one of the greatest people who ever lived in this day and age. kareem abdul jabbar today we bow our heads at the loss of a man who did so much for america. tomorrow we will raise our heads again, remembering that his bravery, his outspokeness and his sacrifice for the sake of his community and country lives on in the best part of each of us. you heard from floyd mayweather a minute ago. but also bernice king, daughter of martin luther king, of course, says you were a champion in so many ways. you fought well. rest well. manny paquel says we lost a giant today. boxing benefited from
muhammad ali's talents but not as much as mankind benefited from his humanity. bob, the boxing promoter. he was the greatest fighter of all time. boxing career secondary to his contribution to the world. we are hearing from everyone those running for president and those who had no connection at all. other than knowing that muhammad ali was larger than life. we heard from lahia ali earlier. we know many in family at his side in phoenix. this wasn't the first time he had gone through something like this. in fact, jim gray who knew him well works for here at fox. this is the fourth time muhammad ali had been in a grave situation. unfortunately the first three, he won that battle as he fought and won so many throughout his lifetime and in so many ways. unfortunately this one he did not win. another small story i want to do pass along, here in southern california, muhammad ali went to a game a couple years ago at a school that i'm familiar with pepperdine university a
small baseball stadium here for a college team doesn't get generally large crowds and muhammad ali went to see his grandson play from the university of louisville as they played a pepperdine team. not a lot of people in the stands that day. usually when someone like muhammad ali would come to an event, generally speaking, you will have a massive entourage. that's kind of the way people travel those days. he came basically with his family. no entourage. it's those thoughts coming through this morning. people who knew him. people who didn't know him. the energy he had, whether weather you met him or not, whether you are in the same room or not is something that continues to live on. we will have more thoughts and remembrances here on fox back to you in new york. >> thanks. >> questions we were asking earlier, tim shanahan, one of his close friends, how did he want to be remembered? he wrote about this from his own memoir he said i would like to be remembered as the man who won the heavy weight title three times. humorous. a man who never looked down on those who looked up to
him and helped as many people as he could. as a man who stood up for his beliefs no matter what. as a man who tried to unite all human kind through faith and love. if all that is too much, i guess i would settle to be remembered as a great boxer and leader and champion of his people. i wouldn't even mind if folks forgot how pretty i was. >> he was known for saying that a couple times. all right. well, the death toll climbing now to nine after search teams find the pose of four more soldiers swept away in those texas floods. only three of 12 men surviving the tragic accident in owl creek at fort hood. two and a half ton truck overturning during a training exercise. the three men who survived were released from the hospital friday. we're still waiting on the army to release the names of those who died. three men have now been found guilty of conspiring to join isis. the trio all from the state of minnesota. they're accused of planning
to go to syria and conspiring to commit murder. they all now face life in prison. they are among 10 young men accused in the conspiracy. a judge ordering the man who set up hillary clinton's controversial email server to prove he was immunity deal with the department of justice. brian pagliano planning to plead the fifth during a deposition by a watchdog group but now has to prove that he has rationale to do so. pagliano has been part of an fbi investigation into whether or not hillary clinton broke the law by sharing and storing classified information on her private home email server. rumor has it u.s. and cuban officials are in talks to exchange exiles. the trade would bring new jersey cop killer joanne chess march back to america. until exchange she has been
hiding out in havana since the mid 1980, those are your headlines this morning. >> rick reichmuth is standing by with a look at the forecast this morning. hey, rick. >> how many times have we talked about texas flooding and how many times have we talked about it. >> keep asking. >> it's getting metta. >> it really is been the case all week long. the rain today right here across kind of the center stripe of the country from minnesota and western great lakes down to the south. we still have rain falling around the houston area. one of the spots seeing so much flooding. it's almost done. however, this front is very slow to move out. i think by tomorrow evening it's gone. in the meantime we will see spots around houston, maybe 3 or 4 inches of rain and see more flooding. tropics, hurricane season started just a couple days ago and we are watching our third system of the year potentially going to develop maybe some time tomorrow evening here. all this moisture you see in the western caribbean, that is going to move up in the national hurricane center high chance of development here in the 48 to 72 hours.
right here across parts of the eastern gulf, and maybe some sort of a landfall monday night into tuesday across parts of florida. a lot of rain there. some spots maybe 7 to 10 inches of rain. we will see flooding in florida this week as well. >> that's a lot of rain. >> a lot of rain. >> thanks, rick. >> you bet. >> coming up on the show, remember how the state department admitted to delicately editing this briefing video to cut our james rosen it turns out they did it again. the new accusation being leveled against the obama administration. we we are live in washington with that story next. >> you have seen the shocking video. a trump supporter getting egged in the face by protesters who are waving mexican flags. shouldn't they protests? debate is next. ♪ hey, baby, there ain't no easy way out ♪ don't back down
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welcome back. remember when the state department admit to do editing this exchange between our james rosen and a states department spokesperson. it's happened again this time over a press briefing over the iran nuclear deal. garrett tenney with the latest on. this good morning, clayton. the selective editing again involves a fox news correspondent asking about the administration lying to the american public about the iran nuclear deal. back on may 9th, at the white house press briefing, our own kevin corke asked white house spokesperson josh earnst about that here is the exchange. >> you can state categorically that no senior official in this administration has ever lied publicly about any aspect of the iran nuclear deal? >> no. >> that initial response from ernest where he says no, kevin, never made it
into the white house's official transcript of that briefing though. a white house official told abc news, which first reported the omission that the line was left out because it was inaudible. though you could clearly hear it there in that video. this, of course, comes on the heels of a discovery that the state department official ordered 8 minute exchange between our own james rosen and then spokeswoman jen psaki over the iran nuclear deal to be deleted on the website and youtube channel. in paris yesterday, secretary of state john kerry called that decision stupid, clumsy and inappropriate. and said he intends to find out who is responsible, adding he did not want that kind of person working for him. congress is now getting involved as well on friday. he had royce, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee requested the state department's inspector general investigate the issue as well. and jason chaffetz, the chairman of the house oversight committee sent a letter to secretary kerry requesting documents and information regarding that incident as well.
so this story is not going away any time soon, clayton? >> i wonder how much other stuff is [inaudible]. -- inaudible. >> flags burned, donald trump supporters were assaulted in san jose thursday night. hillary clinton has condemned the violence but also blamed trump for it watch this. i condemn all violence in our political arena. i condemned it when donald trump was inciting it and congratulating people who were engaging in it. i condemn it by those who are taking violent protests to physical assault against donald trump. this has to end. he said a -- he set a very bad example. he created an environment in which it seemed to be acceptable for someone running for president to be inciting violence, to be encouraging his supporters. now we are seeing people who are against him responding in kind. it should all stop. >> okay. that's hillary's view.
some on the left have actually encouraged rioting. one vox editor tweeted this the other day quote. advice: if trump comes to your town, start a riot. that man was suspended but there wasn't much outrage about it. why? joining us now to discuss this is the mayor of miami beach florida and hillary clinton supporter and frequent guest on the show reporter lavigne. mr. mayor, it's great to see you. >> thank you. >> it's a little much to blame donald trump for the violence of people who support hillary clinton or bernie sanders, isn't it. >> absolutely. tucker, let me say. this as a mayor the most important thing is public safety. making sure your citizens or residents are safe. everyone needs to condemn violence. there is no place for this in our political discourse. obviously this is a very contentious election. i'm sure we are going to see this all across the country. i call upon my fellow mayors and all contenders in this presidential race to condemn violence during all these political rallies and all these events. >> good for you. what you didn't hear anybody mention in the press for some reason is the nature of
these protests. they weren't just against trump. they were against america. burning american flags. waving mexican flags. make america mexico again. stop waving the flags of foreign countries? what is this. >> everyone has freedom of speech. no question about that freedom of speech doesn't mean that you cannot hurt anybody, that you can threaten anybody. that needs to be eliminated. >> i'm not contesting their right to be anti-american. i'm saying people in positions of authority ought to denounce it. why aren't they? >> no question about it. that's why donald trump really should denounce it. >> he denounces it all the time. >> i mean, listen. >> why waving mexican flags. >> tucker, let me ask you a question when is he saying something like beat the crap out of that protester, that's wrong. >> right. >> he shouldn't say that. he should condemn violence. >> i agree. >> senator sanders. >> that's an easy call. >> donald trump needs to do that. >> do you think the protesters at anti-trump should wave mexican flags. >> i think people should have freedom of speech.
>> hold on, slow down. what do you think of the waving mexican flags? do you find that appealing? what do you think that means. >> i think today is a sad day for america. muhammad ali passed away and being the mayor of miami beach greatest in the world when he knocked out sunny his ten. one of the things he stood for against violence. violence in the ring but outside the ring he was not for violence. >> like muhammad ali you are floating like a butterfly around my question. >> and stipulating like a be. thank you for being my guest. >> firearm called terrorists because they put flag on truck. speaking of anti-american. respond to that next.
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island town after a city official forces its firefighters to remove american flags from their trucks? his reason? it makes them look like terrorists. the official sparked this controversy by calling the flags on the back of the trucks, quote: like isis in syria going to take over a city. i don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. that's not america to me. those are a bunch of terrorists. the official has since walked back his remarks and firefighters now have permission to fly the american flag. joining us now is firefighter union president david gorman, he has been defending the firefighters in this fight with the city and is here surrounded by several members ever the central coventry fire department. thanks to all of you for being here. david, please make sense of this story for all of us. we are hearing that in a u.s. town that firefighters are being told they can't fly theme acan flag on
their trucks? is it the way it sounds? >> yeah. i mean, that's exactly how it sounds. you know, you asked me to make sense of it. i can't make no sense of that comment. it makes no sense whatsoever. >> so what is going on? what was his reasoning, this official, what was his reasoning on calling firefighters terrorists for flying american flag off the back of the truck? >> i don't know what a reasoning would be to call first responders terrorists at all. we can only assume that we have been in some entrenched battles over the last several years, and this is just another attempt to really belittle us and attack us. but, to resort to terrorists and isis and those comments, that was just despicable. >> how are the firefighters responding? >> our initial response was did that really happen? you know, what was just said? but we have been berated like this the last couple of years from this chairman. but my military vet and even
the guys standing behind me very upset. this is the american flag a lot of brave men and women laid their lives down for us to fly that flag. >> three chief were told to take down decals. two of them were veterans themselves. he has since walked back these remarks and now they will be allowed to fly the flag but they have to ask permission? >> well, we haven't been told that we're allow to do fly it. they have walked back their comments but issue asked privately by three fire chiefs in the current administration that the chairman wants the flag and vice merriman want the flags off the fire trucks. >> we also understand, by the way, that since this story broke the fire district board has hired a pr firm and you say that you have been getting a lot of support and the firefighters have been getting a lot of support for the community. so, david goshman, thanks for -- gorman, thanks for
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good morning. it's saturday, june 4th. 2016. i'm sandra smith, and this is a fox news alert. the greatest of all time is dead. >> everybody stop talking now. attention. i told you all of my critics, i told you all that i was the greatest of all time. >> indeed he did. multiple times. boxing legend muhammad ali passing awayvernight. we'll have the very latest on his passing. the incredible reaction that we are seeing pouring in this morning to the news and we'll take a look back at the life and legacy of the champ. >> and then countdown to the california primary. with that race just days away, sparks are flying in the campaign trail. hillary clinton taking aim
at donald trump. but new poll numbers suggest she ought to be spending more time focused on bernie sanders. we've got a live report from that state straight ahead. >> and another hollywood actor attacks donald trump. >> if there are multiple simulations, how come we have to be in one where donald trump becomes the republican nominee for president? can we like transfer to a different one? let me me say this to the bankers. >> actor matt damon turning a speech into a political won against the donald. he wasn't the only one. the first lady did it too. we will play that tape for you are too. "fox & friends" hour two starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> just waking up, it is saturday morning and muhammad ali the greatest heavyweight boxer in history of this country has died at the age of 74 in scottsdale, arizona. >> the three time
heavyweight champion had been hospitalized recently with respiratory complications. all exacerbated by parkison's disease he was battling for 32 years. >> he will be buried in his home state of louisville, kentucky. flags will be lowered to half-staff we are told this morning. the former cassius clay consciousness when he beat the champion sunny liston. >> we're diving into the history of this. because it was supposed to take place at the boston gardens. >> i didn't, it was. >> cancelled at the last minute and moved up to maine where you usually don't think of big sporting gleents hockey ring in the. history was made. he called himself the greatest of all of time and he proved it again and again. as we said he has passed away at the age of 74 last night. >> he did call himself the greate time. and anyone who challenged that, he would look right at them and say are you the greatest? i'm the greatest. >> the accomplishment's there to back it up. they are stunning. having won the world heavyweight title a record
three times. matt joins us live from outside the hospital there in scottsdale, arizona where he had spent his last few days. hey, matt. >> good morning, everyone. of course it's very somber here right now. calm and quiet. we have seen people come and leave behind candles and mementos like boxing gloves. there was a very strong presence of security here at one point we saw almost a dozen police officers or what appeared to be security guards in front of the main entrance of the hospital. now the security preference has -- presence has diminished. we cannot confirm whether his body is in the hospital behind us. we do know the family released an email a short while ago saying that muhammad ali will be buried in his hometown of louisville, kentucky. there will be a briefing. the family is expected to release more information on fowrnl arrangements. on thursday, the day before he died, his daughter posted this status to facebook saying, quote: i love this
photo of my father and my daughter sydney when she was a baby. thanks for all the love and well wishes. i feel your love and appreciate it. as you guys have been saying, celebrities, athletes, world leaders have been posting tributes on social media mike tyson said, quote. came from his champion. floyd mayweather post to do instagram saying my heart goes out to a pioneer, a true legend and hero by all means. now, of course, muhammad ali has been described as kind and giving man. someone who tried to give back to the world through any means that he could. and here in phoenix, the boxing legend helped found the muhammad ali parkison's center at a neurological institute in phoenix. that hospital aims to help people struck with factor sons the disease he suffered from for so long. >> thanks, matt. >> muhammad ali was known for accomplishments in the ring but accomplishments around the world even greater. >> how muhammad ali floated
like a butterfly and stung like the be. >> the world pretty like me. >> he was pretty and he won the heavyweight championship three different times from 1964 to 1979. ali was still known as cassius clay when he came out of louisvilleville kentucky and took the championship from sonny liston. in february 1964. overnight, he became an international star with attitude. >> i walked in london, england. i jumped off the airplane. camera men anywhere i go. look in the gym. tv, cameraman, everybody follows me i'm so great. >> in 1960's he embraced muslim religion changed his name from cassius clay to muhammad ali. with the vietnam war raging, ali refused to be inducted into the army. as a consequence, he was stripped of his title and exiled from boxing for almost four years. he returned and won the title again from george foreman when he introduced his famous rope-a-dope
strategy in 1974. >> let's do it all. i hit them -- it will knock him back and out. he would literally stand there and wake up again. >> it was an aging ali who lost a title to toothless leon spinks in 1978. he came back 8 months later to regain the crown. ali's most memorable fights were with joe frazier. he won two of the three classic contests from 1971 to 1975. >> i told you today i'm still the greatest of all time. never again defeat me. never again say that i'm going to be defeated. never again make me the underdog until i'm about 50 years old. then you might get me. >> in the 70's, he came under the influence of boxing promoter dom king. he pounded out a lopsided decision over the unskilled chuck wetner in 1975. he
remained international celebrity long after his retirement 1981. symbolic of national status. he was chosen to light the olympic torch after the 1976 olympics in atlanta. even though he was severely inflicted with parkinson's disease. he attended the funeral of his greatist rival joe frazier. >> i told you i'm the champ of the world. all of you bow. all of my critics. >> in new york, brian kilmeade, fox news. >> we want to bring in tim shanahan now author of running with the champ. my 40 year friendship with muhammad ali. we want to talk about your remembrances of muhammad ali. this morning, everyone bringing up the fact that he was a controversial figure. i think he offended just about everyone. he offended the naacp, he offended the establishment. everyone seemed to have a gripe at one time with muhammad ali. >> like i mentioned earlier, he said his middle name was
controversy. and whenever he was promoting his fights, he always said he wanted to insult the opponent and make people angry at him and at that way, 50% of the people will come to see him lose and the other 50% would come to see him win. so whenever he was promoting the fight, he said that was all an act. he said i was just pumping myself up to get into the mood to fight this opponent. and he had to make himself angry to get into that mood. he was a loving person. he loves all people. and somebody who loves all people can't be a terror in the ring unless he makes up something in his head. so he was controversial. >> he was. he became famous as you know in the 1960's for coming out against racial integration. and as a black separatist and said so without apology and often. when -- did he change his view on that? and if so when and why? >> he really -- he believed
in elijah muhammad. so he was following him as a young age and believed anything and everything he said. when elijah muhammad died in 1975, wallace d. muhammad took over his son took over. he was more along the lines of muhammad's thinking that is that we can't be calling the white man devils. we have to learn how to get along with them. because they are in the business world. and we have to join them in the business world and do business with them. and we can't turn our backs on that. we have to make ourselves better and greater by cooperating and participating with the white world. and muhammad always believed that he never really believed that the white man was the devil. so that was a time when he started changing his thoughts. >> tim, as an athlete, obviously he had god-given talent. he won an olympic gold medal at the age of 18. as his friend for so long, what more did muhammad ali have that made him this
exceptional athlete beyond just talent? because athletes know it takes more than just that. >> i'm going to tell you something probably everybody sees but don't bring up his spiritual side. he is the most spiritual person that i know. and he rises above the mortality that he is facing in fights and any type of controversy. he takes it from a higher level. people who deal with him on that spiritual level realize it. and i believe that the one thing that he had above all other athletes was the ability to rise above and faces the challenge at a spiritual level rather than a morality level. >> thanks for joining us this morning and for remembering your friend muhammad ali for us. thanks. >> thank you. >> good to have you here. headlines this morning
starting with a fox news alert. the death toll climbing to nine after search teams find the bodies of four more soldiers swept away in texas floods. only three of 12 men surviving the tragic accident in owl creek at fort hood. a two and a half ton truck overturning during a training exercise. the three men who survived were released from the hospital friday. we're still waiting for the army to release the names of those who died. police in massachusetts are on high alert after a man threatens to kill officers on twitter. the man posting a video of himself cursing and yelling at police. after getting frustrated by an ambulance on his way to work. the man believes the ambulance was sent by police to mess with him. he then threatened to kill the officers saying it's just a matter of time. the scariest part? the man considers all fire and e.m.s. personnel as police, creating a bigger danger for emergency responders. all right. well, a judge ordering the manual who set up hillary
clinton's controversial email server to prove he has an immunity deal with the justice department. brian pagliano planning to plead the fifth during a deposition by a watchdog group. now has to prove he has rationale to do so. pagliano has been part of an fbi investigation into whether or not hillary clinton broke the law by sharing and storing classified information on that home server. and those are your headlines on this saturday morning. >> thank you, sandra. well, the primary just days away sparks are flying on the campaign trail. hillary clinton taking aim at donald trump. new poll number suggests she should be spending more time focused on bernie. a live report from california is straight ahead. >> convicted cop killer hiding out in cuba. our new best friend. is a deal in the works to bring her back to america to face justice and why wasn't this deal done before? we have got details coming up. >> we'll have continued coverage -- continuing coverage of the passing of muhammad ali. arthur aidala and bo dietl will be here to share their
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welcome back. the countdown to california is on just a few days now, the battle between democrats and as that is heating up to clinch the golden state. >> hillary clinton looking ahead and taking aim directly at donald trump with the presumptive g.o.p. nominee firing back at her attack. >> there is an awful lot going on. we bring in michael emanuel to explain what's happening. good morning, mike.
>> tucker, clayton, sandra, good morning to you. weighed in on the -- lowering the bar. she knows law enforcement has tough enough job knowing we can gather and talk issues. >> i condemn all violence in our political arena. i condemned it when donald trump was inciting it and congratulating people who were engaging in it. i condemn it by those who are taking violent protests to physical assault against donald trump. this has to end. he said -- he set a very bad example. he created an environment -- >> donald trump is also campaigning here in california, doing some critical fundraising for the general election. he is also hoping to put california in play in the fall in the general election. trump last night in redding fired back at clinton. >> i think that hillary clinton is unfit to lead our
country, certainly at this time. [cheers] >> i think she is unfit. >> then there is bernie sanders who is still campaigning relentlessly out here in california. sanders has been doing multiple rallies each day and daily news conferences with reporters. sanders sounds pleased that very tight polls have forced clinton to compete here. >> the media has decided that the campaign was over. she was supposed to be campaigning n new jersey but suddenly she and bill got a plane and here they are in california. sounds like the campaign is not quite over. [cheers] >> sanders has faced some questions in recent days about whether he is the one dividing the democratic party. sanders describes himself as an old fashioned guy who believes debate and democracy are great ideas. tucker, sandra, clayton? >> all right. thanks. >> thanks, mike. well we have that in common with him.
we believe debate and democracy are good ideas on "fox & friends." >> violence unfolding in california and san jose and other rallies. chaos, you, of course, saw those anti-trump protesters throwing eggs at the trump supporter wearing the trump shirt. >> al pack of them surrounding this poor woman. screaming at her and intimidating her. imagine if she were a hillary supporter being surrounded by trump supporter. >> or transgendered right supporter being surrounded by red next. the justice department would be on this, right? >> she comes out and says she is condemning it. but then, of course, she is pointing the finger back at trump again. now we have this, which is an amazing tweet from emmet rensin. the editor of that publication tweeted this yesterday advice: if trump comes to your town start a rite. he has been suspended. he goes on to defend that
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welcome back. matt damon making his big return to mit. hasn't been there since they filmed goodwill hunting. he delivered that school's commencement speech yesterday. he used his time to take shots at donald trump and wall street. here is part of what he said. >> if there are multiple simulations, how come we have to be in the one where donald trump becomes the republican nominee for president? [ laughter ] can we like transfer to a different one? let me just say this to the bankers, specifically the ones who brought you the biggest heist in history, it was theft and you knew it.
it was fraud, and you knew it. and i don't know if justice is coming for you in this life or the next, but if justice does come for new this life, her name will be elizabeth warren. >> joining us now with his reaction stuart varney and company. stu varney. >> greetings all. >> theft and fraud, bankers. fraud and theft. what do you make of that? >> first of all, i find continue credible that you have a leftee celebrity invite to do a prestigious to nonsense. a conservative would be have been banned. up he gets, he hits the podium and all wall street's fault. it's all the bankers. he is flat out wrong. we are in difficult economic times. got nothing to do with what happened eight years ago. it's got nothing to do with wall street or the bankers. it's got everything to do with current economic policy. that's what's dragging us down. and that's what day monday will never admit. period. >> i wonder though if he realizes he is going to be
on the road for hillary clinton this fall. no doubt about it. he always is does he understand that she is taking multiples more money from wall street than donald trump is? does he even know that, i wonder? >> i think he is more on the side of bernie sanders. >> right. he is obedient leftee robot, they all are. they will all get in line, of course. they all are. >> go for it, tucker, why not? >> because it's true. >> it is true. hillary clinton has taken more money from wall street than any republican, period. >> thank you, stuart varney. >> $200,000 per speech. i don't know a republican who gets $200,000 per speech from wall street. >> much more than that in one goldman sak's speech. >> i tried but it's not working. >> look at jobs report. 38,000 jobs created in the last month in may. this was a dismal number when it came out. you were covering it, stu. why? what happened? >> i think that's another problem for hillary clinton. the economy is almost dead stopped, growing at less than 1% a year. that is pathetic. hardly creating any new
jobs. 38,000 that is dismal in the extreme. the middle class is still shrinking. and here's hillary clinton running for office on the back of president obama's economic policies. which are failing. >> but, remember, she says her husband is going to fix the economy. >> oh, that will work here is donald trump on this jobs report he tweeted out. terrible jobs report just reported. only 38,000 jobs added. bombshell. >> he is right. it is a bombshell. that came out of the blue yesterday. when that was announced, only 38,000 new jobs created in one month. that just came right out of the blue. nobody was really expecting it to be that bad. >> there were these predictions we have been talking about it over the last few months that the next president, it might be handed a real hurricane when they go into office. >> it could be. >> what needs to happen from either side to try to right these winds? >> you have two sides of the fence here. hillary clinton and bernie sanders would go into the election with a policy of tax the rich and spend more money. that's what we have had for eight years.
doesn't work. donald trump will go into the election with a tax plan. cut individual tax rates, cut corporate tax rates, give us growth. i think that's what we need. i think we need growth at all costs. a lot of problems would be at least alleviated if we had 4% growth for a couple of years. that wouldn't solve everything, but it would set us on the right track. >> government regulations have been a big obstacle as well. >> get rid of them, employees. obamacare is the biggest obstacle to prosperity for middle america. it's still with us. it's got to go. >> those people aren't voting anyway so they have got to go. >> watch the show. >> killing it. >> you are all right, you guys. >> great to see you. >> want you back every weekend. >> coming up here on the show, she was fired after 40 veterans died under her watch at the phoenix v.a. now there is a chance she could get her job back thanks to the doj. pete hegseth is fired up about this and he is
straight ahead. >> rememberth shocking photo of a dog? how could you forget it with its mouth duct taped shut. we have an update on this case and this story just ahead. and, tucker? >> we continue to observe the passing of one of the great boxers of all time pouring in from around the world. we will give you the latest on muhammad ali. bo dietl here to share next. allergy medicine alone. shut your mouth and say goodnight, mouthbreathers. breathe right.
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rumble, young man, rumble. that's what we gonna do. you heard it. i told you i was floating like a butterfly and stinging like a be. >> his hands can't hit when what his eyes can't see. >> some of the most famous quotes of all time from boxer muhammad ali. he pass away last night at the age of 74. >> he battled parkison's disease for three decades. admitted to a phoenix hospital thursday suffering from respiratory problems. >> ali's accomplishments are stunning having won the heavyweight title a record three times. 56 of 61 fights. 37 of them by knockout. we want to bring in bo dealings, arthur aidala. both men here to share personal stories of muhammad ali. arthur, amazing at the garden the night muhammad
ali lost. >> well, muhammad ali and joe frazier household name literally in my house, in my office. in my law office. i have the hat that the officials were given. special commemorative hat. when you look at the pictures of that fight, the march 8th, 1971 fight. all the officials around are wearing that hat. i have it framed because it was my grandfather's hat. two judges and a referee. the referee was mccandy my grandfather was one of the judges. they were so afraid much corruption. greatest sporting event ever. it was the only sporting event. there wasn't 500 different sports. there were like three. and so people would know there was no cell phones so my grandfather and three of the judges had to sit at home and wait for the phone to ring and he got the call around 4:00 that day and one of the referees and they were guarded. my grandfather couldn't go. no one could talk to him or no one could be near him. he said to me what he did in that fight because as bo
will tell you every celebrity on the planet was there he watched the fight with his thumbs in his ears. he didn't want the crowd's reaction to influence his decision because the crowd can't see if a punch actually lands or doesn't land. he ruled nine rounds for joe frazier, six rounds for muhammad ali and muhammad ali lost that huge, huge fight right after the supreme court battle and all that in my house ali, frazier, march 8th is like a day of reverence. >> were you there, bo? >> i was there he touched my life twice. in 1917 i was a police trainee. i didn't become a cop yet. we had the gray uniform. i was working -- we had all time detective there he liked his begin. he gave me his detective badge. i took his detective badge. i knew about the fight. i said i'm a detective. so i had illegal badge. i had his badge and i went back into where the locker rooms. i'm walking around with a badge on me. i was a trainee at the time. i wasn't even a cop.
eventually got my own detective badge. frank sinatra was the greatest event of my lifetime there. all of a sudden there to be there on that day, the excitement of that fight. >> is that you there with muhammad ali. >> muhammad ali was honored by the congress of racial equality and we had a big affair at the hilton. i was in charge of all the security. i never left his side. >> wow. >> we went back stage together. he signed everything. he signed all the shield cases of all the detectives that i had working for me. he was such a warm person. he was would have been the person to bring this whole muslim negativity together because he was a loving man. he didn't drink. he didn't smoke like arthur says he liked the ladies, but the problem with him was that -- >> -- i don't think arthur said that actually. >> he did. >> he was thinking it. >> bo, you lived it. i was like 5 at the time. you know, you are talking about a later stage muhammad ali. when that ali frazier fight that first one in 1971 he
was divisive guy. the nation was very divided. he refused to go to vietnam. he, you know, he changed his name. he was calling joe frazier uncle tom. joe frazier who was financing him under the table when he boxing because he was not allow to do box. it was a crazy, crazy time. when bo talks about frank sinatra being there. do you know how he got there? frank sinatra was there because he went to life magazine and asked to get credentials as a photographer, so frank sinatra was ring side as the ring side photographer for life magazine. that's how big an event it was. >> some italian businessmen that i grew up with in the park. all the italian businessmen from the gambino, that's where they were at. the tickets for the 1971 fight was the hottest tickets in the world and was the greatest sporting event of my lifetime. >> lived up to the hype. it went 15 rounds.
it went to a decision. >> every imar badge hauler was there that night. >> i don't know about garbage. >> everyone. i tell you the truth. leading up to like what arthur was saying so much controversy. everyone want to do see ali lose and frazier beat him. ali comes back with the two fight thriller and that. >> rummible in the jungle. >> as the man got older, you could see he thought about so many things. peace was one of them. >> eevolved. >> he was for one thing peace around the world. in the 1970s, one thing i reflect upon he was the most recognized man in the world. i remember that in the 1970s. >> i could listen to your stories all day. >> hopefully we all evolve. >> thank you, gentlemen. >> bo, arthur, thank you. >> do you think bo is ever going to evolve? >> no, i don't. >> what you see is what you get. i'm not changing. >> but i touched upon many things in my life, pal. >> all right, thanks.
>> what's the matter are you, are you crazy? >> i have got to get get to these headlines. >> ring the bell. >> all right. developing right now, we have got to get to this story. three men have now been found guilty of conspiring to join isis. the trio all from minnesota. they are accused ofto go to syrd conspiring to committed murder. they all now face life in prison. they are among 10 young men accused in the conspiracy. rumor has it u.s. and cuban officials are in talks to exchange exiles it would bring new jersey chesimard back to america. in exchange we would send a cuban spy back to the do you know ban nation. she escaped in 1979 after convicted of killing a new jersey state trooper. she has been hiding out in havana since the mid 1980s. remember this shocking picture of the north carolina woman who sparked outrage when she posted this photo was found guilty of animal abuse. but will not face jail time for it.
catherine lamanski was found guilty of animal cruelty on friday. she posted the picture on her facebook page last november with the caption this is what happens when you don't shut up. she was sentence to do a year of supervised probation but the sentence was suspended. all right. those are your headline this morning. >> let's get outside to rick reichmuth and follows extreme weather. >> there is a lot going on weather wise. all the flooding in texas. take a look at the weather maps. still more rain across areas of texas this morning. can you see where the rain is across the country today from areas of wisconsin all the way down the mississippi river valley. and again in across east texas, more heavy rain, more flooding possible. see some spots, four or five inches of rain today and tomorrow. mostly going to be the coast of texas. all right, some severe weather today across the ohio valley, tomorrow a bigger chance of severe weather, including some tornadoes, especially where you see that orange color from around philadelphia down to rally. we're also watching the tropics, hurricane season began just a couple of days ago.
we already have a system that's in the western caribbean. going to pull in across the eastern gulf and as it does, likely develop into some sort of a tropical system and nonetheless bring moisture, some spots 5 to 10 inches of rain across florida. maybe tornadoes and certainly some very rough seas. one last thing, take a look at this, incredible heat moving in across the desert southwest. 117 today in phoenix. and tomorrow another maybe 116. average is 100. you get the idea the heat is on. all right, guys, send it back to you. >> thanks, rick. >> 117, nice. >> coming up, michelle obama taking aim at donald trump and her commencement speech. >> and here in america, we don't give in to our fears. we don't build up walls to keep people out. >> is this just a preview of what trump should expect from the obamas going into the general election? >> and he has been called the most hated man in america. now, the farmabro is in more
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trump ought to expect going into the general election. here to confirm that or not is fox news contributor and author of black lash how obama and the left are driving americans to the government plantation, our friend dineen borelli. great to see you this morning. >> good morning, everyone. >> the message is you disagree with our program, you are a bigot. >> that's what the left does, clayton i mean tucker. >> i'm happy to be clayton, that's an upgrade. >> it's what the left does. a scare tactic, a fear tactic try to get people to go out to the polls, especially black voters, injecting race is another way to do it. they play the race card. this is what we are witnessing. we will see more of that because the obamas know the clock is ticking. they will be out of the office soon. we will be seeing more and hearing more of these comments. >> she talks about the raising of these walls. listen to her comments about the white house and waking up in a house built by slaves every morning. listen. >> it's the story that i witness every single day. when i wake up in a house that was built by slaves,
and i watch my daughters, two beautiful black young women head off to school. [ applause ] >> waving goodbye to their father, the president of the united states. >> yeah, don't forget not too long ago she said she was proud of the country for the first time in her adult life and that was only because her husband became president of the united states. but for her to go back in time to bring up slavery, again is, a way to play on people's emotions. why not go back to the 1950s and 1960's when the democrats were the ones responsible for wanting to keep blacks segregated and were involved in the kkk and other issues that they did not want black americans to have liberty and freedom in america? why not go back to the 1950s and 1960s and talk about that i see this as selective history for her on her part to make those comments. >> this is the last commencement address. >> right. >> as first lady.
and she used it primarily to attack donald trump. >> right. >> she never named him in that speech. >> right. >> but i mean most of it was targeting the g.o.p. nominee. >> sure. >> why not talk about america's exceptionalism. she went to prince ton. she went to law school. she is in the white house. the first lady. why not talk about how exceptional america is and that people, these graduates -- this is what they want to hear. a message of hope. a message of inspiration. and that you can achieve anything you set your mind to as long as you work hard and apply yourself. that is what america has to offer. >> so, deenen, even as we speak here on the couch, using our tax dollars erect ago higher fence around michelle obama's house. >> sure. >> given what she said yesterday tear down america's walls that's now how nerns live. we're not afraid of people. why is there a fence around the white house? >> that's the point. do as i say not as i do. there is nothing wrong with
securing our porous borders. these are criminal activities coming. in diseases coming. in t.b., measles, and lord knows what else. we need to keep america safe first and that should be most important. >> well, i lock forward to the day where all the syrian refugees are living on the white house lawn. >> yeah. i agree. >> deneen borelli, good to see you. >> coming up here. >> sorry. >> one of bernie sanders biggest supporters suzanne sarandon has a prediction for hillary clinton. watch this. >> nobody is even talking about this indictment? what happens with that? besides the trust issue of catching her in so many lies? when does that -- >> -- well, there has been no indictment. >> no, but there is going to be. >> the reporters defending hillary but sarandon won't take it she is going after hillary clinton. hillary clinton is now responding. you get to hear what she has to say, yex. >> remember how the state department admit to do deliberately editing this briefing video to cut out james rosen. turns out they did it again. we have the new accusations straight ahead. >> she was fired after 40
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welcome back. well, is the white house trying to undermine v.a. reform? that's what some lawmakers are saying in the wake of a justice department decision that could protect the job of a fired v.a. official. sharon hell man was terminated as the head of the v.a. facility after 40 veterans died on her watch much the doj, however, is giving her a chance to appeal the firing and congress is crying foul. so why is the administration doing this? here to help us break this all down is pete hesitation
hegseth. great to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> your thought on she could aheel to have her ousted at the phoenix v.a.? >> it's enraging. she is the director of the hospital where the scandal was exposed. sharon hellman is the poster child for what is wrong with the v.a. she continues to insist that somehow she was wrongfully removed. she actually didn't get fired technically for the wait time scandal. she got fired for illegal gifts, beyonce tickets and others that she took under the table for special benefits for others. she is corrupt across the board. if she gets another appeal, she has already had an appeal. another appeal and gets her job back, it will demonstrate exactly how corrupt the entire system is. >> people are arguing what's really going on here? are the unions at the heart of all of this, pete? >> of course they are. the unions, the white house is in bed with the government unions who want more and more protections. they don't want anyone that's even remotely close to at will employment. in this case they claim the
constitution. doj is claiming that it's unconstitutional to fire someone like sharon helman. this is the same white house who loves to shred the constitution. somehow when it comes to vets or directors who underserve them, now they are all up in arms about the constitution. and they are claiming that it's unconstitutional to fire them. tell them to every american whose been fired without cause at will employment. somehow government workers live in a special land where they can't be fired? it's absolutely enraging. the justice department is in bed with the unions who is in bed with the white house. and that's why nothing is changing. >> on the other side of this argument is well, doesn't she deserve an appeal or could she just be fired without any further appeal? >> she has had an appeal. she had an appeal. she wants an additional appeal on top of it to be -- and it to be overturned there was also an investigation. it's not as if she just walked in and she was fired. it was months and months and months of an expose. much more than anyone in a
private sector would get. that in most institutions would ever get. these government workers are coddled, they are protected, they get lawyered up. they get another appeal. they get evidence. all the d. law did that was passed was expedite an appeal. it didn't get rid of an appeal. expedites it so like someone at an organization like the v.a. can get fired. many lawyers out there, many which i am behind the v.a. accountability act that would give the secretary the ability to fire any employee at the v.a. for cause. still be appeal and process. and the white house is claiming that would be unconstitutional. let's have that fight. because there is nothing in the constitution that says if you are a corrupt worker at the v.a. you can't be fired. find me where it says that it doesn't exist. they want more regulatory pairiers between the employees and that could be fired. it's really unfortunate. >> great point. and the unions at the heart of it all. pete hegseth thank you so much this morning. >> thank you. >> coming up on the show, did you hear this ridiculous
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[ laughter ] can we like transfer to a different one? if justice does come for you in this resolve,. >> giving a commencement peach at mit into a political rant. we will tell you what he said. stay tuned. >> speaking of hollywood. one of bernie sanders biggest supporters, susan sarandon has an opinion. >> no one is talking about this indictment. what's happened with that. besides the trust issue catching her in so many lies. >> there is no indictment. >> no. but there is going to be. >> there is going to be an indictment. hillary clinton this morning giving her own prediction on the email scandal. shouldn't she be worried about california? chris stirewalt will join us live to react. "fox & friends" how three starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> well, the world mourning the loss of a man who called himself the greatest of all time. muhammad ali passing away at
the age of 74 last night after battling parkison's disease for more than three decades. admit to do a phoenix hospital thursday with respiratory problems. he won three world heavyweight boxing titles. after boxing he became a voice around the world. one of the most famous men in sports. >> in 2005 he was awarded the highest civilian honor the medal of freedom by president george w. bush. >> it was a long road from growing up in louisville, kentucky as cassius clay to his later life as muhammad ali. our observe juan williams knew muhammad ali. interviewed him for npr years ago. he joins us now. you there, juan? >> i'm right here, tucker. good morning. >> good morning. >> i mean, he a evolved or changed, became different or whatever happened to muhammad ali. he was not the same at least in the public eye at the end as he was 50 years ago. tell us about that journey incredible journey. what an athlete.
just a beautiful man. i don't know if have you ever seen pictures of him down in miami, ang lee dundee's gym. the beatles came to visit ali. people just loved them 18 olympic cold. phantom punch. he was so fast they didn't even see the punch. they wondered if there was some mob inspired fix in but there was a punch. but the political journey almost starts at the same time. you see, of course, cassius clay becomes as world champion under the influence of the black muslims and malcolm x and changed his name from cassius clay to muhammad ali. in the course of that become a defiant figure. scary figure black and white with regards to his religion. people didn't know or understand what the black muslims were about. and so ali becomes part of a counter culture, defiant moment in american life,
particularly with regard to civil rights. and that escalates then when he says he is not going to enlist in the military in 67 and loses his boxing license. it's four years later that supreme court ruled in his favor that he had a legitimate basis for saying that he was a conscientious objector. >> juan, you sat down and talked to him several years ago. and you know, he is such a famous iconic person that you watched, you know, your whole life and you had built a perception. what did you learn when you sat down with him? did any of your perceptions of him change when you met him in person? >> well, you know, sandra, it's a little bit like meeting someone larger than life. i mean he is muhammad ali. i think, i'm not being -- i'm not engaging in hyperbole when i say i think he is the most famous person on the planet. there is no place you can go. no hamlet in china, no tribe in south america where people did not know this man's name and so, you know,
i remember once with my daughter, you know, he invited me over and this was in washington, d.c. and he just starts playing. and you realize man, that's muhammad ali. another time when i interviewed him as you mentioned for radio in los angeles, it was -- he was out there for some espn awards. and he just starts doing magic tricks. he made himself into a very good magician. again, just so surprising. the way other people react to do him. holiday stars hollywood stars and other athletes held him in regard. i think it had to do with the idea that he had political voice, that i is h. sacrificed take a stand whether you agree with it or not. and secondly that he was so well known and so beloved by some. i think even in the boxing community, my dad was involved in the boxing community. people just thought, you know, is he different. i mean, he was not only fast and strong.
but he had the poetic nature that really made him a hero. even when he went after people like joe frazier. he was just cruel to joe frazier. i don't know if you know that story. he made him into a guy uncle tom, not proud of himself. ignorant. just terrible stuff. even then people, i think, were willing to forgive him because he represented something that was almost beyond boxing, beyond sport which was this poetic peter pan sort of figure. you never associate that with boxing, but muhammad ali somehow made that happen. >> it's amazing because you hear the tale of two muhammad alis. the frazier version you were just talking about but also other stories like three college kids broken down their car on the side of the road. he drives by in rolls royce and does a u-turn around comes back. gets the jumper cables out and helps these people. people just stopped all over the streets waving at him. they couldn't believe it. here is muhammad ali in his rolls royce jumping this car
for these college kids. that's the kind of guy he was, right? >> i think that's true. i remember i was in l.a. with him. i did the interview, and then we were going over to an aespn award ceremony. we went into the green room area and they gave him a separate room because everybody was just flocking around him. but here comes r. kelly, the r and b singer. and you know r kelly did a song i believe can i fly. he comes over and starts singing to ali and says, you know, you were the one who made me believe i can fly. i can do anything, you know. you think my gosh. this is muhammad ali. and he is just smiles and puts hermine in head locks, you know. i'm going to jab you. everybody starts laughing. but it's the regard that he was held in that really set him apart. i think, you know, when i saw him, for example, in '96 trembling with the parkison's, marching up those steps to light the olympic torve in atlanta, you know, i don't get emotional about a whole lot in public life like that.
but, boy, that was a moment. because here was the outsider. here was the kid from segregated louisville who went through such internal crisis over this nation of islam, black identity thing, someone who, you know, lost so many years of his career and suddenly the whole country was embracing him and saying, you know what? you are the greatest athlete we have seen and certainly in the boxing ring. and we like to you represent the u.s.a. at this golden moment in atlanta. i think the whole stadium was just -- it was an emotional moment for the country? juan williams joining us. thanks, juan. >> thank you, juan. >> you are welcome. >> turning now to some headlines, starting with a fox news alert this morning. the death toll climbing to nine now after search teams find the bodies of four more soldiers swept away in those texas floods. only three of 12 men surviving the accident at owl creek in fort hood. a two and a half ton truck overturning during a training exercise. the they men who survived
were released from hospital friday. we are still waiting on the army to release the names of those who died. police in massachusetts are on high alert after a man threatens to kill officers on twitter. the man posting a video of himself cursing and yelling at police. after getting frustrated by ambulance on his way to work. the man believes the ambulance was sent by police to mess with him. he then threatens to kill officers saying it's just a matter of time. the scariest part? the man considers all fire and e.m.s. personnel as police, creating a greater danger charges keep coming for the most hated man in america. federal prosecutors accusing pharma bad boy martin shkreli defrauding investors. they say he stole assets to pay off his personal and professional debts. shkreli is expected to appear in federal court on monday. he faces up to 20 years in prison.
outrage in a small rhode island town after a city official forces firefighters to remove their american flags from their trucks. the officials saying it makes them look like terrorists. the firefighters union president joined us earlier this morning with this response. >> my military vets and even the guys standing behind me very upset. this is the american flag. a lot of brave men and women laid their lives down for us to fly that flag. >> tough to understand that story. the official later on ate his words and firefighters now have permission to fly the flag but they have to seek that permission by the way. those are your headlines this morning. >> dominicanive. rhode island the most democratic state in the country. just to point that out. >> remember how the state department admit to do editing this briefing video to cut out james rosen? turns out they did it again. new accusation straight ahead. >> bernie sanders is closing in like a heat seeking
missile on frontrunner hillary clinton in california. what happens if hillary actually loses the golden state and the prayers of the bernie people are sandy? chris stirewalt joins us in a minute. but, first, we continue to mourn the loss of the greatest, muhammad ali. rumble, young man, rumble. that's what we gonna do. you heard it. >> i told you i was floating like a butterfly and stinging like a be. >> his hands can't hit what his eyes can't see. so that's what happened.
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well, the california primaries are just a few days away. it's on tuesday. it's a big deal on the
democratic side where the race is still in full swing. new numbers show that hillary clinton is neck in neck with bernie sanders, within the margin of error. it's a big deal for her because he could win. what happens then were that to happen? wow. chris stirewalt joins us live from washington with the answer. he is fox news politics editor and our friend. good to see you this morning. i saw you on megyn kelly's show last night. you didn't sleep much. thanks for joining us. >> i saw you last night on kelly file. >> adderall. i know all the clinton people i spoke to recently two days ago they are worried that could happen. what would that mean. >> she should be worried. all likelihood she will clinch the nomination early on the evening with knowledge. puerto rico and new jersey should put her over the top and it's a win. but, like the battle of new orleans, the war of 1812 was already over but andrew jackson's victory there put the stink on it for the british. if, in fact, bernie sanders
wins in california, he has a great incentive to stay in the race, to hang around. washington's primary such as it is the following week and then can he go to the convention and complain about super delegates and make vociferous hand gestures. >> yes. and also make real demands of her like choosing her running mate. what do you think he asks for? his wife came out the other day and said we demand a progressive run with hillary clinton. do you think the senator from massachusetts, elizabeth warren could be the person he demands she runs with? >> or himself. he would actually be kind of an interesting running mate. the press doesn't take him seriously. they don't listen to what he is saying. they don't listen to his ideas. they like his hair and funny accent and they think he is adorable. i don't know, maybe it would be good. certainly for her, if she wins resoundingly in california, she has the freedom to pick somebody like cory booker. somebody who could help her ticket overall rather than
just going with the base of the base of the base. >> the base of the base of the base though does support at least the white liberals in the base support bernie sanders. i'm sure you saw that clip from suzanne sarandon i want to play it anyway. so revogel how they feel in the closing moments of the democratic race. here is susan sarandon on hillary clinton. >> nobody is even talking about this indictment. what happens with that? besides the trust issue in catching her in so many lies. >> well, there has been no indictment. >> no, but there is gonna be. >> the reporter tries to defend hillary. susan sarandon having none of it hillary gave a statement saying that's not going to happen. >> but that reveals how a lot of bernie supporters feel. they don't like hillary. how many won't vote for her, do you think? >> obviously susan sarandon is wired inside the fbi. her deep functional knowledge of the fbi and department of justice has brought her her insight heretofore unseen. we should all wish to have such good reportage. people become willing to believe in things
unsupported by facts. in this case certainly hillary clinton has a problem. we don't know whether she is going to be indicted. people willing to believe these things, hatred drives belief more easily than love. in the case of hillary clinton, liberals hate her. they know that she is going to pivot to the center as soon as she gets the nomination she will kiss them off and say hey, remember all the times i was a neo conservative hawk? well, still am. >> how can she preside over a party that's at least 40% socialist? out of the closet socialist when she is the candidate of wall street taking more money from the banks than any other person in the race? how does that work? >> donald trump. >> yes. >> donald trump will help her with those. now, that's why his opportunity is to run left, left, left, left, left, left. get away from republicans who people hate. people hate the republican party. if he wants to have a chance to beat hillary clinton, it's going to be by running to her left on a series of issues and getting away from these republicans who are a toxic asset for him. >> my head is spinning.
you seem grounded amazingly enough. chris stirewalt from d.c. thanks a lot. >> you have a great day. >> you too. is it fair muhammad ali will be remembered for statements as he will for boxing skills. boxes historian steve farhood joins us next with a little perspective on the fighter's life. another pampered hollywood star weighs in on politics. >> if there are multiple simulations, how come we have to be in the one where donald trump becomes the republican nominee for president? [ laughter ] can we like transfer to a different one? let me just say this. >> out of touch rich guy vs. billionaire. the fight continues. stay tuned. can a toothpaste do everything well?
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welcome back a fox news alert this morning. we are remembering the life and career of poxing champ muhammad ali who passed away at the age of 74 last night. tributes pouring in this morning. poxing historian joins us now. he covered ali's last two fights. thanks for joining us this morning to give us perspective on the fighter. in his later years was he fighting pause he loved it? because he wanted the money? and how would you rate his performance? >> fame is a drug. i think he was definitely hooked on that he not take care of his money well either. there was that factor as well. he definitely fought too long for his own welfare and health but accomplished a lot even toward the end. >> describe his last two fights for us. >> well, for me i was in my early 20's and i was surrounded by all these writers who ali had taken around the world. he took the term world heavyweight champion to a whole different level because he fought
everywhere. i felt very out of place, very uncomfortable because these writers had special access to ali. he gave them special access. the last fights specifically in nassau the bahamas, you knew it was the end. the word boxing the word retire is over until he boxes again. all the writers and especially the ones who had been around longer than me understood this was never going to happen again there was never going to be an athlete of any kind or for that matter of a public figure of any kind who was quite like muhammad ali. >> obviously a very controversial figure, the 60's refusing to go to vietnam as far as his, later in life, how did he look back at those days? >> really, you know, i view ali as the protagonist in the great american novel. he changed with time. the ali of the 60's was filled with rage and hatred.
he enraged us and shocked us. but, with time, he came to inspire us. and he came to really symbolize love and respect and sympathy. the change from the angry ali of the early and mid 60's was remarkable. he did change and that's one of the reasons that he transcended boxing and was such a fascinating public figure. >> was there a specific pivot point? of course he was a racial segregationist and open about it. was there a moment when he said as malcolm x did i turn away from all that i'm going back on what i thought before or did it just slowly evolve? well in the early and mid 60's there was a tug-of-war between malcolm x and martin luther king with two very different philosophies. with time ali ended up rejecting malcolm x because malcolm x viewed the white man as the devil as he said. ali came to symbolize not just black america but the world entirely the whole
world. that was a beautiful thing as it under out. >> ali was famous for catching people off guard. when you there were as a reporter, did he ever catch you off guard? >> he was so playful. and i remember going on a bus ride, a media bus trip to deer lake in pennsylvania, his camp. and he would sit behind you and he would flick his finger on the back of your ear. and then sit back real quickly. he was just as quick doing that as he was throwing punches. >> you got hit by muhammad ali? >> i got flicked by muhammad ali. if he ever hit me i wouldn't be here now, believe me. it was fantastic to spend a day with him at deer lake because that was where he was really at home. and that was a day i will cherish forever. >> good stuff. steve firewood thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> coming up on the show, state department admit to do deliberately editing this video with james rosen. they have done it again. >> you have seen the trump
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critics, i told you all that i was the greatest of all time. >> that's muhammad ali, of course, probably the most famous athletic in the world. remembering him this morning. he has passed away. he died last night at the age of 74 after a long battle with parks parkison's disease. >> 30 years he suffered with that. now world class athletes are reacting to his death. >> i was so overwhelmed i couldn't believe that i met him when i was young. you know, i met muhammad ali. with him touching me, with me shaking hands with muhammad ali, it made me want to go out there and legend. a man that's going to be truly missed. man that i loved. >> adam housley has more this morning on the districts pouring in over social media good morning, adam. >> good morning, guys, yeah. for about 8 hours now we have been monitoring tributes consistent and ongoing. a lot of people on the east coast did not know of the news when they went to bed last night. you mentioned some of the athletes. just about every single major athlete seems like has weighed in, including all
the major sports leagues themselves have weighed in via social media there are a number of hash tags that are trending. some have been retweeted depending what site you are on more than a million times gote greatest of all time. cassius clay and muhammad ali himself. feedback mike tyson tweeted god came came for his champion so long great one. god bless muhammad ali. peace and love to all of his family. that from ringo starr. british prime minister david cameron muhammad ali was not just a chopper i don't know in the ring but champion for so many people. >> madonna this king, this hero, this human words cannot express he shook up the world. god bless him. he continues to come in from all over, lennox lewis the great heavyweight champion himself said a giant among men. ali disprad a greatness and talent and courage most of us will never be able to
truly comprehend; a legend who transcended sport and true champion for all. we also heard from roy jones jr. my heart is deeply saddened both appreciative and relieved the greatest is resting in the greatest place. daughter of coretta cot king thank you, you were a champion in so many ways. rest well. when you monitor social media tone and the statements coming in also officially, you can see the vast and wide area of people all over the world from leaders to sports greats, to people who had no idea what muhammad ali was like in person other than watching him on television. people that had, you know, ten followers for example, to people who had millions of followers. all weighing in on their thoughts about the loss of this great champion. he clearly touched livesry and across the world. imis, we continue to see the
statements come out. we have not heard from the white house. weave do expect to get a statement shortly as the morning moves on. back to you in new york. >> thanks, adam. >> turning to your headlines this morning. throw men have been found guilty of conspiring to join isis. the trio all from minnesota. they're accused of planning to go to syria and conspiring to commit murder. they all now face life in prison. they're among 10 young men accused in the conspiracy. an oil train derails. that's a growing story this morning as well as a murder confession. it could be coming soon. a former friend of o.j. simpson reportedly says he believes the juice is fighting demons and once he is released from a nevada jail he will tell the truth in the 1994 murders of nicole brown simpson and ron goldman. former nfl star is serving time for an unrelated robbery conviction and could be released as early as next year. well, a beautiful moment captured forever. a little girl surprising
several police officers in cedar hill, texas, asking to hold hands and pray with them over their lunch. her father snapping this photo and it's now going viral. the officers posting it on social media saying her prayer was beautiful. and those are your headlines. >> nice to end on a good note there. >> certainly is. >> we will take it down a peg. let's talk about hollywood this morning. matt damon, of course, you know him from goodwill hunting where he won an academy award. he went back to mit for the first time since that movie to give a commencement speech and donald trump was his target. >> so let's say you are graduating from mit and you just spent four years studying electrical engineering and legitimately smart person trying to make the world a better place and for the commencement speech not hocking it's some actor lecture you about politics. that happened. here is what he said. >> if there are multiple simulations how come we have to be in the one where donald trump becomes the republican nominee for
president? [ laughter ] can we transfer to a different one? let me say this to the bankers, specifically the ones who brought you the biggest heist in history. it was theft and you knew it. it was fraud, and you knew it. and i don't know if justice is coming for you in this life or the next, but if justice does come for you in this life, her name will be elizabeth warren. >> how honest do you want to be? a lot of these schools are way less impressive than we pretend they are, mit or yale, impressive. >> matt damon went to harvard and dropped out to pursue acting. background on him. >> that's not impressive. i think you could make a fair critique of wall street, actually. i make it sometimes. but i don't think that was a smart critique, a, and, b, matt damon? they hired him to speak because is he famous and liberal. those aren't relevant criteria. >> hollywood looks to woo these candidates. fly them in all make $200
dinners donate to campaigns who receive a ton of money from wall street. here was stu varney on our show earlier this morning. day monday is damon is not going to real problem. >> lefty celebrity invite to do a prestige just university to spout economic nonsense. a conservative would have been banned from the place in the first place. no, up he gets, he hits the podium and it's all wall street's fault. it's all the bankers. he is flat out wrong. we are in difficult economic times. got nothing to do with what happened eight years ago. it's got nothing to do with wall street or the bankers. it's got everything to do with current economic policy. that's what is dragging us down. and that's what damon will never admit. >> you feel so sorry for all these kids saddled with debt. do you know what i mean? search mad about the college debt that all these kids are carrying. they should be mad. no one ever says to the colleges wait a second why are you charging 60 grand a year for a half rate
education? >> i would love for him to say look i dropped out of college. >> exactly. so good and so true. >> you could save a lot of money and maybe get ahead. won't be saddled with all this debt. come up on the show we are remembering the life of the great muhammad ali. >> everybody stop talking now. attention. i told you, all of my critics, i told you all that i was the greatest of all time. >> geraldo rivera interviewed the boxing legend. look at that video. and he is live next to tell us about it. >> plus, you have seen the riots outside donald trump rallies in california. why aren't the cops doing anything to stop them? do the rioters have any rights? what about the spectators? do they have any rights? bo dietl and arthur aidala are back ahead. ♪ brothers ♪ closer than your next of kin ♪ the best of friends ♪ take a bullet ♪ for each other
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remember when the state department admitted to editing this exchange between our own james rosen and a state department spokesperson? well, it's happened again. this time with a press briefing over the iran nuclear deal. garrett tenney is in washington, d.c. with the latest on this story for us. good morning, garrett. >> sandra, good morning. this is quite the coincidence. this new revelation again involves a fox news correspondent asking the administration if it lied to the american public about the iran nuclear deal. at the may 9th white house press briefing our own kevin corke asked josh earnst if any senior administration official had lied publicly about the nuclear deal. here's that question and ernest's initial response. >> you can state categorically that no senior official in this administration has ever lied publicly about any aspect of the iran nuclear deal?
>> no. >> ernest went on to defend the nuclear deal. but, when you look at the white house's official transcript from that briefing, you can see that initial response where he says, no, kevin. is completely left out. a white house official told abc news, which first reported the omission that the line was left out because it was [inaudible]. though you can clearlier that in the video. this latest incident is just the second time in the last few weeks the obama administration has been found altering the public record regarding the iran nuclear deal. the state department admitted this week that an official ordered part of a 2013 press briefing to be deleted from the department's website and youtube channel. that deleted part included an admission by then spokeswoman jen psaki that the government had lied about its negotiations with iran and came in response from questions from our own james rosen. in paris yesterday, secretary of state john kerry called that decision to edit that video out
stupid, columnsy, and inappropriate. he said he didn't think that kind of person should be working for him. congress is now getting involved as well. several lawmakers are calling on the state department inspector general to investigate the incident. the inspector general's office have said they have not determined whether or not they will do that at this time. sandra? >> all right, garrett teny, thank you. all right, tucker over to you. >> thanks, san draft it's an ugly scene in northern california this week. hundreds of protesters caught on camera swarming donald trump supporters. rioters, throwing bottles, waving a mexican flag. one woman was cornered and egged. why does san jose welcome illegal immigrants famously but not trump supporters and more to the point why aren't police doing more? here to weigh in fox news contributor bo dietl and fox news legal analyst are arthur aidala one the most famous cop and defense attorney decide who is who.
great to see you both, gentlemen. >> good to be back. >> you are the cop. why aren't police jumping n the face of a riot? >> you know, watching this the other day when they were sucker punching kids walking there, we have a freedom of expression in america. you want to know something? that's the reason why donald trump is going to win because is he going to be democrats and republicans together. half of them were i will locally immigrants. burning the american flag. they are assaulting kids walking there because they have trump shirts on this. young lady with a trump shirt gets hit with eggs. the cops dom com out there. i'm a big supporter blue lives matter. that chief of police says we didn't want to take any action because we didn't want to cause any more problems, well, shame on you. you should have stopped that from happening. there is no reason in the world people are expressing with the support of donald trump to get assaulted like that? damn you, they should have been arrested. they should get the videotapes and lock up those half of those illegal aliens anyway. lock them up for assault. >> isn't this an attack on
the idea of impartial justice? i mean, nobody can protester's right to protest. nobody can assault other people. >> other thing that people don't think of is the protesters. there is a large portion of them who are obeying the law. who are protesting legally. >> yeah. >> they want the person who punches someone in the face arrested. that makes them look bad. they don't want -- they want to protest peacefully. that's a large portion of them. and then there is a couple of schmucks, a couple of jerks. we don't want to be affiliated with these jerks. >> law enforcement serves at the pleasure of politicians. >> no, no, they serve at the pleasure of the people. >> in effect, they are controlled by politicians. >> new york city, big bird got elected because he said bill bratton is going to be my police commissioner before he was elected. that helped him. >> let the demonstrators close the streets down. people going home from work they couldn't. >> he did it once.
>> he opened up the environment for that punk from baltimore the new york city cop. >> when a politician says, look, i like this brand of protest, don't get in their way, what are they thinking. >> politicians should stay the hell out of it. when you break the law. when you got a guy that comes in with bag of rocks hits that man in the head. bleeding. why wasn't that guy arrested? >> you can't assault people. >> that mayor of san jose, should be -- you know what he should do? get the civil rights charges lawyer against him for why those people weren't able to demonstrate and let their free expression. >> why i say they serve the people is you know what won't happen? the electorate in san jose won't come out and vote that mayor out of office. they won't make their voices heard. they are not -- by it. >> doesn't society fall apart when political demagogues say you have to follow this law but not this law? >> 100 percent. and that is illegal, by the way. >> yes. >> the selective
prosecution. we are going to charge this person with this crime and this other person who does the same thing we are not going to charge with a crime. >> people who vote for me don't have to follow the law is basically what they are saying. >> point in case in new york city, we have this socialist mayor here that's going to be voted out because i tell you what, before he gets voted mayor, i will vote for [inaudible] [bell] >> listen to me, this mayor has destroyed this city and took the heart and soul out of our police officers. >> hard to say that when crime is still at his lowest rate. >> you are a statistician. >> no, i'm a bill bratton guy. i like commissioner bratton. >> just made news. bo dietl is running for the mayor of new york. >> i will tell you what i would do. i would keep bill bratton but i would formulate him to come back to the real world of life instead of listening to this socialist mayor. >> we still have the safest city. >> going to be running your campaign speeches live here on fox. thank you for joining us as
always. >> i'm safe in new york. >> coming up when madeleine albright said this about women, remember, women who don't back hillary clinton? >> remember, there's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other. [cheers and applause] >> that was albright the theologian. she has made news again for defending hillary. what she said top of the hour. plus you have seen this incredible video out of the state of texas. entire neighborhoods and cars left by devastating flodz there now cars being sold. they are hitting the market and you are buying them. tell you how to spot a car that's been under water before you purchase it. ♪ i believe it all is coming to an end ♪ well i guess we are going to pretend ♪ let's see how a & a financial we've come ♪ let's see how far however we've come.
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reports, kelly blue book. >> so always a good idea to know what you want. >> some cars are better than others. so start there. but then make sure you're going to an authorized dealer. it's a nice idea to buy it from someone off the street, but you're much better off going to an actual car dealership. you will be more protected. >> so an authorized dealer is key. >> correct. >> so not a good idea to go to somebody's couch who has a information sale sign on the windshield? >> you're taking on a lot of the risk that way. if you buy from the dealer, you have the federal trade commission guide behind you. >> and you always want to take it for a test drive, right? >> yeah, when you take it for a test drive, it's not just taking a spin around the block. >> because you get in the car and you're like what do i do, i'm kind of just driving. what are you looking for? >> and if someone is in the car with you, you might feel nervous taking it through all the paces.
but you want to slam on the brakes, accelerate quickly, take it for a true test drive. >> and you want to get the history report. >> it will cost but 40 bucks, if you have the vehicle identification number, you can look it up and make sure that it checks out. this is going to catch the history. >> and you suggest getting a mechanic to look under the hood before you make the purchase. >> yeah, if you know your own stuff, you can do it for yourself. if your grandfather or neighbor is really good, bring someone with you. but if you don't have the resources, take to a mechanic, make sure that everything checks out. that's the last stop in the process. >> and you recommend buying a new car? >> it's great financial decision. you save a lot of money. >> all right. good stuff. thanks for joining us. i'll pass it to you boys inside. coming up here on the show, media celebrated hillary clinton's foreign policy attack
on trump. >> his ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. >> but what did voters think of it? lee carter gives us the dial treatment. and coverage of 9 dthe dad the most famous athlete passed away. geraldo rivera knew him. he'll join us with his memories in just a minute. many people clean their dentures with toothpaste or plain water. and even though their dentures look clean, in reality they're not. if a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists on the denture, and that bacteria multiplies very rapidly. that's why dentists recommend cleaning with polident everyday. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day.
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>> we have reaction pouring in from all around the world including our own geraldo rivera, he will be here live along with boxing great evander holyfield. >> is there anyone geraldo doesn't know? and then count down to the california primary. it's heeating up in a big way. new poll numbers suggest hillary clinton should be worried about bernie sanders. a live report from california coming up. and another hollywood actor attacks donald trump. >> is there a multiple simulation, how come we have to be in the way where donald trump becomes the republican nominee for president. can we like transfer to a different one? >> matt damon turning a commencement speech into a political one. and the first lady did it, too. we'll play the tape there. fox and friends hour four starts right now.
♪ a sad day as the world says good-bye to the greatest of all-time, know ham hmohammauham boxer passing away last night at the hospital after being admitted with respiratory complications. >> the last 30 years or so, he battled against parkinson's disease. >> he was a record three-time heavyweight boxing champion of the world, he was 74 when he died in scottsdale, arizona. matt will be outside the hospital in scottsdale where he has spent the past few days. >> reporter: somber here in arizona in front of the hospital where the boxing great passed away. we saw people coming and going, people leaving behind mementos,
candles. there was a strong presence of security, almost a dozen security guards here. that has since diminished. we also ran into a long time friend of ali, knew him personally for 35 years. take a listen to what he told us a short while ago. >> he still had all the charisma, all the swagger up until the very he said. he really did. on top of what was going on. still very sharp. i just think this was something that was unexpected and for maybe the first time this his life, know he couldn't get off the mat. >> reporter: he will be buried in his hometown of louisville, kentucky. and there will be a briefing here in arizona where we expect to learn much more information about the funeral arrangements for muhammad ali. back to you in new york. >> thanks, matt.
geraldo rivera had a chance to sit down and interview muhammad ali. i want to play this clip and roll back the years. and we'll come out and get your sense of this. >> have you ever thought of politics? >> i've made a few statements, but, no, i don't see no reason why i want to be president. too much headache, too much trouble. and i don't think that i would make it. >> what was it like interviewing him? >> he was self-aware. >> he was a brilliant man, no doubt about it. sad dnews day. the program called me and said hustled in. we didn't expect it. >> i'm sorry, is that you? >> yeah that eat two of us. excuse the short shorts and the socks. but that's what i looked like back then. this was after the second
frazier fight just before the thriller in manila, the fight that ali and joe frazier went at in a way that was so intense, he said they both went in as champions, they came out at old men. it was a vicious, vicious fight. but he was so important particularly i mean spans the generations, but we're almost the same age. six months older than i. he was so important. he defined the '60s in many ways. he was the first of the crossover black power -- not black power in the militant sense, but of black is power, black is beautiful. he rejected christianity, adopted islam as his religion, changed his name from cassius
clay to muhammad ali. and took the title beating sonny liston in a way that -- he had a reputation of being undefeatable. >> how did he join islam, seamlessly transitioned from the outer fringes of american society to the center. how did he do that? >> remember, this was a period of great urban chaos. there was the worst race relations you could possibly imagine. not only the civil rights movement, but the anti-war movement and the collision of these great social forces. and here was this man, this intelligent man, this bold and flamboyant man, but the person who absolutely defied expectatio expectations. he's maybe the greatest athlete of the 20th century. and so people could relate to him even though he was convicted
for dodging the draft and ultimately the united states supreme court reversed that conviction, but he lost almost four years during his prime fighting, you know, period. but he came back and he lost to frazier in that ep epic bout in1 and then beat frazier in the second fight and then the third fight that absolutely wrecked them both, one of the greatest fights of all-thieime. but he was so approachable. everyone knew him. i kind of took over for howard cosell to whom ali went for promotional events. but the fact that he was with the nation of islam or changed his name became almost irrelevant to the fact that he was our friend, he was so conscientious, he was willing to
risk everything, to sacrifice so much. he was a secular saint in many ways. i really mean that. but he was not a perfect man. like me, had a checkered domestic history, nine children from three or four women, i forget home, but a wonderful deep hearted compassionate person who cared deeply for the youngsters. throughout the world, he was the most famous man on earth. >> i also like how you say like me, he had a checkered past. >> and we also want to get your take on politics because there is the chaos ensuing in california. protests getting violent. the question being asked are the democrats doing enough to denounce this violence. >> he set a very bad example. he created an environment in which it seemed to be acceptable for someone running for president to be inciting
violence, to be encouraging his supporters. now we're seeing people who are against him responding in kind. it should all stop. it is not acceptable. >> frankly, i honestly believe and i really believe this, i think that hillary clinton is unfit to lead our country certainly at this time. i don't like his temperament, i don't like his -- well, let me tell you, there is nobody with a better temperament than me. i have a temperament for winning. i've won all my life and we're going to start winning for you. >> shoot democrats denounce this violence that we've seen? >> i think a lot of things. and hear me out for a second because i'll kind of back into the most important question good b. quelli about quelling the violence. trump did a terrible thing by singling out the judge curiel as a mexican and refusing to admit he was born in indiana.
it's a dangerous precedent and provocation that is really inexcusable. and he should back off it right now. and i say that from a man who i love him will, i care deeply for trump and his family. his -- i predicted he would be the nominee way back in early july. i has to be far more responsible or he will divide the nation. these protestors in san jose yesterday and marking the trump campaign as he goes around the country are reckless, irresponsible and counter productive. they will bring about the end result that they protest to loath. they will elect donald trump with their violence, with their anarchy, with their selfish self indulgent violence. it is absolutely counterproductive and it will
achieve exactly the result they profess to resent. they must stand down. now, are the candidates on either side doing enough? absolutely tnot. this is unforgivable. i'll be covering cleveland for fox and friends and i anticipate disruption outside p. the democrats the next weekphil disruption outside. what these people really are seeking, and you remember back to the g7 and g-20 protests in seattle and so forth, it is disruption for the sake of anarchy and self-fulfillment. it is not tbringing about any just result. >> i rarely say this, but i agree with what you just said. all of it. >> we should call the presses. we have to turn now to some of the headlines this morning. it's 9:10 on the east coast.
let's start with the fox news alert. the death toll climbing to nine now after finding the bodies of four more soldiers swept away in texas floods. only three of 12 men surviving the tragic accident at ft. hood. a 2 1/2 ton truck overturning during a training exercise. the three men who survived were released from the lohospital on friday. we're still waiting for the army to release the names of those who died. police in massachusetts are on high alert after a man threatens to kill officers on twitter. the man posting a video of himself cursing and yelling at police after getting frustrated by an ambulance on his way to work. the man believes the ambulance was sent by police to mess with him and he threatened to kill officers saying it's just a matter of time. the scariest part of it all, the man considers all fire and ems personnel as police creating an even bigger danger. a judge ordering the man who set up hillary clinton's controversial e-mail servers to
prove he has an immunity deal with the justice department. bryan pagliano planning to plead the fifth during a dep circumstance but now has to prove he has rationale to do so. meanwhile madeleine albright making light of the e-mail scandal saying it never put american lives in danger. >> first of all, the e-mail, she said she made a mistake and nobody will die as a result of anything that happened on e-mail. >> albright says what does concern her is donald trump saying he admires putin. and those your headlines. coming up here, mainstream plead i can't celebrated hillary clinton's foreign policy speech. >> donald trump's ideas aren't just different. they are dangerously incoherent. >> what do the voters think? lee carter gives us the dial treatment next.
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>> so hillary went after trump's temperament in probably the most widely replayed sound bite. in case you haven't seen it, here it is. >> donald trump as commander in chief would be a historic mistake and it would undo so much of the work that republicans and democrats alike have done over many decades to make america vostronger and mor secure. it would set back our standing in the world more anything in recent him other and it would fuel an ugly narrative about who we are. >> so what was the response to that? >> i think it's fascinating to watch because it's not surprising democrats loved it, it was off the charts. >> among democrats. >> among democrats. independents and republicans were turned off completely. they gave it an "f." they said while it might be true, i'm not sure hillary will be any better and she's almost
as uncertain as donald trump is. >> so when people on the fence, she's not credible. >> that's right. >> and donald trump responded of course and here's part of what he said. >> crooked hillary said, donald trump, his finger on the button -- i'm the one that didn't want to go into iraq, folks. and she's the one that stupidly raised her hand to go into iraq and destabilize the entire middle east. >> interesting he's kind of hitting her for being the warmonger, i'm not. >> it was really fascinating. this didn't get up as high as it often does when he goes on the attack. but what people said is he has permission to go back after her, it's actually quite a good argument when you think about it. if you're saying that he's the one that will be crazy, i don't want him in charge, but she was the one that supported something that a lot of people are against how. it made people reconsider him, but still not as good as some of the other attacks. >> do you ever get dials where
democrats and republicans agree on things? >> yes. it happens rarely, but it does happen. >> so then trump went on to call hillary a cynic. here it is. >> i think we do even better in november because we'll take a lot of people from the democrats. i mean, i watched hillary today, it was pathetic. supposed to be a foreign policy speech, it was a political speech. >> this was interesting because people agreed, you can see both republicans and independents agreed that he will take a lot of people from the independents and from the left. so that was something that they agreed with. but you could see the dip when he started to call her pathetic. just a little bit extreme. so this one b-aminus, republicans. "f" on the democrat side. we haven't seen this much direct combat between the two. >> on the occasion when trump takes time to rebut with specifics, how do those comments do? >> they generally do well.
when he comes back swinging, people are like that's who he is and they like it, they like that he's addressing the issues and not hiding from them. >> interesting. >> it is really interesting. >> thanks for joining us. well, coming up, michelle obama gave her final commencement address as first lady the other day and it was not surprisingly very political. >> we don't give into our fierce. we don't build up walls to keep people out. >> we don't build up walls except around the house i live in, the white house. it was a shot at donald trump. we'll tell you more about what she said, stay tuned for that. plus a story sparking outrage. firemen called terrorists because they dared to put an american flag on their truck in america. the brother of the next guest was killed saving lives on september 11th and he says the firefighters are not terrorists. you'll hear from him in just a second. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain and clearer skin.
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a rhode island city official sparking outrage forcing its firefighters to remove american flags from their fire trucks, claiming makes them look like terrorists. the official claims the trucks looked, quote, like isis in syria going to take over a city. i don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. that's not america to me, those are a bunch of terrorists. that city official later walked back those comments following some public backlash and firefighters now have permission to fly the flag from their truck. joining me now is chairman of the tunnel to towers foundation, his brother was killed while saving lives on 9/11. it's good to have you here, frank. we're continually sorry for the loss of your brother. how does this story make you
feel? >> well, you know, you see america upside down sometimes. it just drives me crazy that our first responders put their lives on the line for us every single day and they want to show their patrioti patriotism, that america is great and they want the flag flying to show the respect. >> hard to understand where they're coming in from this. we had david gorman speaking on behalf of the firefighters there this morning. here was his reaction to the comparison of those firemen to terrorists. listen. >> i don't know what a reason would be to call first responders terrorists at all. we've been berated like this for the last couple years and this is just another attempt to attack us. but to resort to terrorist and isis and those comments, this t. makes military vets and the guys behind me very upset. there are a lot of brave men and women that laid their lives down for us to fly that flag.
>> not the only has the fire district chairman for called for the flags to be removed walked back but he's hired a pr spokesman, the community has spoken out against this. i think everyone listening to this story sits back and says i don't get it. i don't understand. how can this be happening in america some. >> it's crazy and it gets firefighters and police officers and military personnel who put their lives on the line outraged. a great artist goes around the country painting flags on the sides of building to let them know that they're not forgotten about. people have died so we can fly our flag. and to say that firefighters can't put it on their trucks, and the most iconic picture on 9/11, one of them, was the firefighters raising the american flag at ground zero. and that is displayed on one of the fire trucks in new york city. so, you know, we should wake up. the ones who want to display it,
we should not let people like this get away with it p. >> what does it mean to you, someone who lost someone directly in 9/11, a direct family member, who was putting his life on the line, what does it mean when you see the american flag flying on those american trucks? >> i love seeing it. i love this country. i love what my brother did on september 11, 2001 and all the over first responders that ran towards what was going on, they gave their lives. and to display it, they have the right to display it. they above everybody. we all do as americans, but they should be able to display wherever they want. >> we have to leave it there, but do you think the city official should be shown the door? >> absolutely. he should be thrown out and no questions asked. this guy is unamerican. >> good to get your reaction, frank. thank you. a fox news alert, breaking details just ahead. plus sparks are flying between
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all-time is in the room, everyone knows who you mean. quite a claim to make. but as mohammuhammad ali once s it's not bragging if you can back it up. >> our viewers this morning reacting to the passing of muhammad ali who passed away last night he at the age of 74. an e-mail september in, was and he controversial figure? yes. was and he ledge endear boxer? yes. rest in place. >> that sums it up. he was a flawed person like everybody, but he was truly a great boxer. >> and he offended others. the list is extensive. >> and it appears that abe met him. he writes in i met mohammad al lid back in the late '70s, early '80s. he was the nicest most gentle man i've ever met. >> i believe that.
he had that vibe. and john writes muhammad ali was the greatest, his passing is a sad loss. >> keep sending in your comments. we want to turn now to the campaign trail. we're only a few days away from the california primary, the battle between democrats heating up to clinch the golden state. p. >> and hillary clinton's looking ahead and taking aim at donald trump, but he's firing back at her attack. >> so what in the world is going on? we have mike emanuel here from santa monica to explain it. >> good morning. hillary clinton says donald trump constantly attacks trying to distract people, trying to get them to look at shiny objects. last night clinton the attacked trump on his economic ideas. >> when i hear donald trump talk about cutting taxes on billionaires, i say to myself, hey, wait a minute, fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on us.
>> trump is also actively campaigning out here in the golden state. he really wants to put the golden state into play in the general election in the fall. he's also doing some very critical fund raising. last night in redding he blasted clinton saying if voters choose her, this country will die. >> hillary clinton is totally scripted. hillary clinton is a thief. and hillary clinton should be in jail. only problem is i'd like to run against her. >> and then there is bernie sanders who is going all out campaigning relentlessly here in california. he continues doing rallies and news conferences up and down the golden state. sanders says he has an excellent chance to win here and is using his moment in the spotlight to push clinton on environmental issues. >> a tax on carbon. and i would urge secretary clinton to change her view and
support me in demanding a tax on carbon. >> it promises to be another action packed day on the campaign trail in hillary clinton with time running short ahead tuesday night's primary. we have a foggy start here in santa monica. back to you in new york. >> and he's going to force her to back a tax on carbon. stuff like that, does it make it hard for her to win in the fall. and now to headlines. a warning for americans in south africa, terrorists are planning attacks on popular are areas there, particularly shopping centers and malls. congress is trying foul over the department of justice coming to the rescue of a v.a. official after at least 40 veterans died
on her watch. sharon helman after being terminated is being allowed to appeal the decision. >> she's the poster child for what is wrong with the v.a., yet she continues to insist that she was somehow wrongfully removed. this is the same white house that loves to shred the constitution. >> that was reaction earlier this morning. helman was originally fired for taking gifts like beyonce concert tickets while vets allegedly died while waiting for their treatment. first lady michelle obama and actor matt damon taking aim at donald trump during two different commencement speeches. >> and here in america, we don't give into our fears. we don't build up walls to keep people out. some folks out there today seem to have a very different perspective.
they seem to view our diversity as a threat to be contained fp. >> and damon got very political in his commencement address, as well, after his big return to m.i.t. since his good will hunting. he took shots at donald trump as well as wall street. >> if there are multiple simulations, how come we have to be in the one where donald trump becomes the republican nominee for president. can we like transfer to a different one? let me just say this to the bankers, specifically the ones who brought you the biggest heist in history, it was theft and you knew it. it was fraud and you knew it. and i don't know if justice is coming for you in this life or the next, but if justice does come for you in this life, her name will be elizabeth warren. >> for the record damon was the first hollywood star to give the commencement address at m.i.t. in 17 years. and enough is enough. one australian man is calling
foul on the use of guys to describe a group of people. >> when it comes to words that work, we've all got to walk the talk. >> the diversity council australia says getting rid of the word in a working environment will help create more diverse thinking and help people become more productive and respected. >> because banning words increases gdp, we know that. this is a basic economic principle. if you publish people for using the wrong word, you become rich. >> rick became far more effective in covering the weather here when we stopped tossing to him. >> i would have a hard time with this because i would never be able to remember who is on the other side of the camera. you know what i mean? >> just guys back to you. >> guys back to you. like is sandra is in for anna b sometimes i forget.
>> you need a manual. >> exactly. hey, let's take a look at the weather going on this morning. we'll show you what is up. we have rain across the center stripe of the country. western great lakes down to the south including southeastern texas which has had way too much of it obviously and all the flooding. more rain today and tomorrow, but it will be isolated just to parse out the eastern texas and then we dry out for much of the coming week. severe weather ohio valley, a few tornados where you see the orange bull's-eye. hurricane season began this week, and you see that blob of moisture there across western caribbean, that will pull off towards the north into the eastern gulf and as it does, about an 80% chance that it will develop into some sort of a tropical system and impact florida monday and tuesday primarily bringing a lot of rain. so get ready for potential flooding there. one last story quickly, get ready for the heat across the
dez tsert southwest. 117 in death valley. >> that's why they call it death valley. can't say you weren't warned. >> wear a heat. >> it's a dry heat. coming up, the worst jobs report in six years the question is do the numbers spell trouble for hillary clinton. we'll be back to break them down in detail. coming up, the worst jobs what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways
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people were getting stuck is this escalators is this and how would you like a beer pipeline under your town. people inthis and how would you like a beer pipeline under your town. people in belgium soon will have their own favorite brew piped directly from their breweries to their bottling plant. the best part, residents who help pay for it get the beer delivered to their door every day. that's amazing, bruge. newest job report show as record low of just 38,000 jobs added in the month of may making it the softest month for hiring since september of 2010. it also marks the weakest pace since obama took office. do the numbers spell trouble for hillary clinton. joining us to break it down is professor and chairman of the program and business finance at the kings college right here in manhattan. brian, thanks for joining us. so give us some perspective on these numbers.
>> these are really, really wba numbers. it puts us into the darkest days of the aftermath of the recession. that's really not the feeling that president obama wants to be giving to hillary clinton as he hands it off to her. it will be a problem for her because you see a huge number of workers working part-time involuntarily, increase of people who drop out of the labor force. that's a real issue for the economy because people aren't getting the jobs they want and in some cases just say i'm giving up. >> americans who can work but can't working is the slowest point since the carter administration. >> and you talk about why do people feel frustrated. president obama was talking about hey, the economy is better than we think, but when you see the numbers, you have to say really? will people are dropping out -- half a million dropped off the labor force. so many stuck in part-time jobs. that's really what people are experiencing.
and i think that's why they're frustrated with the economy. >> we have a bunch of economists together to figure out how to measure the unemployment rate, we would not use the same criteria. >> no, the number in the headlines is 4.7%. in fact the past month the unemployment rate falls. but the reason it falls is because people give up looking for work. >> so this is a phony measurement p. where do we continue to use this? >> we interpret it in a phony way. it shows you what it shows you, but it doesn't telling you how many people don't have jobs. if you want to get the real unemployment rate, you look at how many people don't have jobs, how many people are stuck this jobs that they don't want, and you look at people who have said i'm giving up entirely. when you look at that number, it's a little closer to 10%. that gives and yof s auand you perspective and that full has not come down as much as we would like to. >> the unemployment rate, the official one leased by the executive branch of government
is an easy way for lazy hamath illiterate reporters to come up with a statement of. why don't we go with that? >> because i think the labor market is complicated. you have to look at a couple different measures to understand what is going on. the problem is you can't get that in in two minutes. and that sort of makes sense. what we have to do is dig beneath the numbers and talk about how many people are stuck in part time job, how many people have dropped out of the labor force. when we do that, people start to get the big picture and they say, aah, that headline is not right, now i understand why things don't feel well because the full set of data does actually tell me things aren't going as well as people are telling me. >> and they don't feel well as you've put it. people are anxious about the economy. >> absolutely. and you can't tell people that you shouldn't feel so bad about the economy. they experience it, they see it in their paychecks, their bank accounts, their community, the jobs that are available to them. so the economy is something we experience. we feel it.
it's not a theory issue right now. it's an actual lived out problem and i think that is what the president is missing as he's out on the campaign trail telling people, hey, feel better, it's better than you think it is. >> meanwhile a small group of people has their own airplane and that causes resentment. some people have gten very rich. >> no question about that. >> brian, great to see you. >> always good to be here. still ahead, favorite memories of muhammad ali and some of your e-mails, as well. >> i'm so fast i make medicine sick, i'm so fast i can run through a hurricane and don't get wet. he'll pay his debt. i can drown a drink of water and kill a dead tree. wait until you see muhammad ali. i have asthma... ...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine. i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment with breo.
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nine kids. his real wealth. >> brian kilmeade spent a long time following muhammad ali. he joins us now. >> guys, just amazing. i am stunned to see, because for 10, 15 years we haven't seen much of the muhammad ali. just appearances because of parkinson's. as you see the footage and understand what the country went through in the '60s and '70s and you saw what he did in the ring. tucker, i thought about you. you are not a sports fan. this is so little about boxing and more about societal impact. he made everybody feel great about themselves. he was nonstop exploring religion, the meaning of life. and he probably was the most famous person on the planet through most of his adult life. it wasn't just because of was champion. >> brian, we haven't talked much about it at all this morning. his relationship with howard cosell. you as a broadcaster love of
sports and a sports broadcaster in your heart. talk about that relationship with him and howard cosell. i don't think we'll ever see something like that ever again. >> mutual respect number one. two, cosell was extremely talented and arrogant and ali was pretending to be arrogant and he was talented. these guys were self-perpetuating marketing machines. they would sell fights, sell issues. they would sell campaigns. they would get you so pumped up for an event or a fight, make it seem bigger than life. where celebrities had to be a part of it. where corporate america wanted to be a part of it, and they sold it. they sold it almost like an act. one would interview the other. the other would show outrage. together they would build a soap apra. i have never seen anything like that. every single league and every athlete owes their marketing
power to muhammad ali. he made it more than sports. >> brian, we have been talking to people who knew him and knew him well all morning. they had amazing things to say about his evolvement from the '60s through the decades that followed. when he was asked what he hopes his legacy will be, aside from jokingly saying that he hopes to be remembered as being pretty, and at the very least one of the best athletes that ever lived, he wanted to be remembered as being a good person and doing good for other people. and it's interesting we have heard a lot of that sentiment from people who knew him on the couch this morning. >> absolutely. the times i met him, he always had the bible with him and the cokoran with him. he was always trying to explore the meaning of life. he would have been the bridge, sadly, between islam and america. he would have been that bridge. he could explain it, understood the koran. sadly he lost his power of speech and persuasion. his last 20 years, on every
level, must have been a slow torture for him. all his gifts were being slowly taken away. in a way i am almost relieved that he no longer has to deal with this type of pain and frustration on a daily basis. you're going to see it. you'll really understand it the more we see the reflections back on his life. great point. >> in ten seconds as a sports guy, was he really the greatest fighter, do you think, of the 20th century? >> no question. he took light heavyweight quills and brought them to the heavyweight division. lost three years of his sports life when he was banned and was still great. unequivocally. >> thanks, brian. >>at more "fox & friends" in tw minutes. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. just a few dabs is clinically proven to seal out more food particles. super poligrip is part of my life now.
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my fellow canadians, for the second time this week, there's been a brutal and violent attack on our soil. but this week's events are a grim reminder that canada is not immune to the types of terrorist attacks we have seen elsewhere around the world. but we will not be intimidated. canada will never be intimidated. >> good morning, it is thursday, october 23rd, welcome to "morning joe." we have senior political editor sam stein. and in washington, washington
anchor for bbc world news america catty cay. and joe with me this morning. a lot of politics to kbet to but we have big news out of canada to start with this morning. >> yeah, big news out of canada. it was unfortunately, rem any sent of what happened in the u.s. capital in 1998 when a a deranged man shot and killed a guard at the u.s. capital. . so the question is whether this is part of a larger plot, which right now it doesn't look like this is. whether it was just a random act. we'll see. >> the prime minister is vowing the country will not be intimidated after a gunman shot and killed a soldier guarding its war memorial. sources say the gunman has been identified as 32-year-old as michael joseph hall. he was a convert to islam.
the gunman was later killed in a shootout at the canadian equivalent and this hour officials are investigating possible ties to terror groups. pete williams has more on a terrifying day in ottawa. >> out of the way! >> reporter: police in ottawa frantically searched for armed men for most of the day in the fourth largest city just before 10:00 a.m. eastern time. a soldier standing guard was shot and seriously wounded by a man with a rifle, a shocking scene witnessed by many by standers. . >>. i was just passing over here and heard a shot, turned around and there was a a guy with a rifle just around on the back corner. just pow, pow. >> i thought it was just fire crackers going off. i look across the street and there's a man with a rifle shooting at a bunch of people.
>> the gunman then hijacked a car. >> then took off towards the back here and headed in that direction. >> reporter: the gunman went a third of the mile to the building housing parliament in session at the time. as officers inside responded, dozens of shots rang out inside the building's or nat halls. members of parliament inside meeting rooms reacted by piling furniture against the doors. outside members were hustled away by police and security. canadian authorities say the gunman was shot and killed in parliament's central hall of honor. >> police also went door to door after witnesses reported there were other armed men in the streets, but officials say they found no evidence of other gunmen. we're looking for people who were there who can talk about this. look who we found. former u.s. managing editor of
financial times now member of the canadian parliament, used to be on "morning joe" a lot, you were there locked down in parliament yesterday until 8:00 last night. tell us what the scene was like. >> well, it was a very, very frightening time. i was walking towards our caucus meeting yesterday morning. it was a time when there's a large number of members of parliament in the building. there's a time they have their weekly caucus meeting. i was walking towards my caucus meeting and i heard in the stairwell above me shots, chi recognized as shots. i ran into a nearby room and i hid there. it turned out to be the lunchroom of the security guard. 's of the house of common, so that was a lucky choice for me and i was soon joined by a lot of security staff who were really helpful and i spent the
rest of the day being shuffled around from room to room in the house of commons as they tried to clear the building. i would like to say one thing, which is i, like all canadians today, is thinking of captain nathan and his family, the soldier shot and killed yesterday. and is the most important casualty of yesterday's tragic events. >> sam stien? >> just a quick question, i'm glad to see you're okay. thoughts obviously go. to the officer. what is the latest that we know about the motivation of the shooter? >> we still don't know. it's less than 24 hours since all this happened. it's being investigated. i u think that we have to be really careful about speculating too much before we have full details. what i'm really pleased about is the house, our parliament will be in session today at 10:00 in
the morning. we are determined that we're not going to be intimidated by this and canada is not going to change. >> okay thank you so much, good to see you. hope to see you under better circumstances. thank you. we're going to turn to the battle for the senate. a new polling says we're in for an exciting nail biter. have you seen some numbers? in iowa, joni ernst, she's leading bruce braley 47 to 46%. she had the nickname the castration candidate. she may live up to that. you never know. scott brown holding on to a one-point lead over jeanne shaheen. and in colorado challenger congressman cory gardener opened up a 7-point lead over mark udall.
he leads that race 46% to 3%. joe s there any way to describe what's going on here? >> i mean, if you take those three polls, things are break the republicans way. democrats believe the race in colorado is much closer. those are the same democrats that say certain races they have already lost. maybe an outliar in colorado. the one that's stick out to me right now is new hampshire. let's put that back up. in new hampshire debates matter. i had a democratic u opera ty that said jeanne shaheen looked angry on stage and they were worried about her performance in the debate. this is only one point. all the polls are one point. a last swing could shift control of congress one direction or another. this certainly is a surprise. scott brown, one point ahead
with a week or so to go. >> that's a big surprise. new hampshire being tight. people said they expected her to win by a couple points. if it gets down to that tightness, democrats are in for a long night. with colorado, that 7-point spread is larger than anything else. people are going to say it's closer. i think it is, but every trend line is pointing cory gardener's way. those people who are data advantage list evangelists should recognize that cory has a growing lead. things are clearly trending towards the republican direction there. >> sam, you have to look. somebody asked me the other day, do i think editorials still matter? they certainly do in a state like colorado where you have "the denver post" who is left of
center who delivers a blistering attack on the democratic candidate mark udall. on top of that, you have the fact he's saying he's trying to get away from barack obama and he's going to be tough against barack obama when he's voted with him 96% of the time. even "the new york times" yesterday was saying of these democrats that they were doing themselves a great disservice. i don't think senator udall looks to be the most straight forward guy right now in this race. >> there's only one sort of general theme that ties all these races together and that's the president. in some races, obama is clearly an anchor on the candidate. you saw it in kentucky where they couldn't state the obvious, which was barack obama. since then you have seen a cascading effect. every single candidate in this race has asked to express their
positions vis-a-vis the president. what did you think of the handling of the health care law? that's swamped the end of this election. it hasn't been the greatest of developments for democrats. there are some races it hasn't been as bad as others. but in colorado particularly, you can see it being a problem. >> it looks bad, but with almost all these races, it's a one-point race. i'm fascinated by what's happening in wisconsin. scott walker hanging on by one point in most polls. that's a close race, a lot closer than republicans would have thought it was going to be. this is going down to the wire. maybe there's a trend. line this way or that way for republicans, but that could all change. >> before we get to that, because i have something on that, i think for joni ernst it's the new hog ad. have you seen it? they have the squeal ad. she has a new one.
i'm going to show it to you later. she has typical politicians in washington that are full of, well, let's just say bad ideas. you have to look at the imagery she puts out there and it's pretty good. you mentioned scott walker. there are several closely contested gubernatorial races to keep an eye on. scott walker has a slight lead in wisconsin, 47% to 46%. that's tight. florida governor rick scott and chris christie, look at that. they are divided along gender lines. women favor crist by 6 points. in connecticut, it looks like 2010 all over again for governor dannel malloy. but the latest poll has malloy
leading foley in their rematch 43% to 42%. these governor races are as exciting. >> yeah, and especially that one in florida. when you look at florida and the race there and how bitter those debates have been, no wonder most floridians are turned off by what they have seen on stage. but particularly i think florida, colorado race, we'll be looking at the turn. out of women. how many turn out to vote? perhaps in colorado the thing that democrats are drawing some caution from is the idea that maybe hispanics are underrepresented in the polls. i think it's going to be woman in colorado and women in the race down in florida. >> all right -- >> sam stein, democrats don't have the same gender gap. advantage that they have had over republicans in the past this year. and in colorado especially,
udall is getting mocked for going to the women's issues one time too many and trying to paint as a cartoon figure. >> he was mocked by "the denver post". i would not overstate that though. that's an issue that motivates a lot of women voters. the question -- it goes state by state. some you see gender gaps bigger than others. in colorado the key question appears to be what percentage of the hispanic population is going to come out to vote and whether they are going to be angered with the president and senate democrats for punching on one of their biggest priorities which was immigration reform and deferred action. there are consequences to decisions made many months ago. one of those could be in colorado. >> now to this, she isn't naming any names, but elizabeth warren says she's been treating differently by colleagues on capitol hill because she's a woman. when the massachusetts democrat was asked if she wanted to
elaborate, she answered, simply, nope. she did say the different treatment wasn't surprising adding it's hard to change the big, male dominated institutions. what i'm happy about is there are now enough women in the united states senate to bring change to that place and i think that's just powerfully important. >> why is it that powerful women in the united states senate are talking about discrimination, gender discrimination, gender bias, being treated differently in the workplace, and yet when pressed to name the offenders refuse to say anything? this cone of silence to protect powerful men, i am sorry, i thought that's what the feminist movement was fighting against? powerful positions of authority
who sexually harassed would be called out. why won't they call them out? >> it brings to mind the conversation we had about senator gillibrand who wrote about in her book but chose not to publicly name the offenders. i met with her yesterday interviewing her for my book, and she's as impressive as they come. on this issue, the fear is the moment. and you are still in a position where you're not really on an equal level to say something back or you're powerful enough to move beyond it and make change on a bigger level. the context of the elizabeth warren story? i don't think it's fair to call on her to elaborate. she's asked on it out of the blue. but if she has something she wants to put out there, i u don't think that helps us. >> i was sort of in joe's mind
set beforehand. i talked to a bunch of people about this. one of the positions that they say is that if you go by naming names, it becomes simple and easy for the conversation to focus on that one individual who you accuse of being a harasser or someone angry or mean towards you or disrespectful. and what they wanted was a broader conversation about general culture of the institution. and that's one of the reasons why. i think there's something compelling to that. >> i'm all nor naming names. >> if you were working at the bbc and there were men going around and they are treating you differently and there's gender bias at the bbc or sexual harassment or people are grabbing you at the bbc and you're a reporter that goes around reporting against sexual harassment, you would call them out. you would have a responsibility to call them out. so why won't these powerful female senators do the same
thing? i really am confused. >> i think it depends -- you named the various degrees of offense. if there's gender bias, if there's sexual harassment and if somebody grabs you, those are potentially quite different thi things. if somebody actually physically does something to you, absolutely, you have to name names and call them out and do whatever is needed to have that person brought to some kind of justice, whatever it is. >> that's obvious in the case of senator gillibrand. >> if it's a gender bias, you have to look at it as a whole. i'm not saying that person treated me disrespectful, i don't know whether naming names is particularly helpful because you get into a kind of situation. i do think when it's egregious, you absolutely have to call it
out by name. when it's broader, you're trying to get to a broader problem, not an individual relationship. >> for elizabeth warren, she was asked about it. so the answer is yes. that's a little different. i'm sympathetic on kirsten's front. i still think we should name names. it's not worth it. >> you wrote a book about it. you blew the place up at msnbc and demanded fair treatment and you got fair treatment and you started a discussion and you brought in the president of msnbc who actually got engaged and participated in it. because you did that, other people are treated differently and better. >> i agree with that completely. >> why do the most powerful women in america sitting back saying if you're in the workplace and there's gender
bias, there's a war against women, so we want you to fight against it, unless there's bias against us because we were born female instead of male. >> when you looked at my situation, it had to be done. and i'm reading kirsten's book. when you're talking about her poked and being called chubby, it's totally, completely unacceptab unacceptable. but i will say, we women have to pick our battles. is it worth bringing down that person at that moment or working on a higher level making more change, which is what she's doing. >> i do understand the whole thing a about picking your pat battles. i carefully pick my battles. >> no, you don't. >> i pick that one. >> you pick aum of them. >> you need to read kirsten's book, it's really good. >> i'm in the middle of it. i read most to have last night. . >> she's coming on the show. >> speak of reading "the wall
street journal", i tried to e-mail this. "the wall street journal" digitally is in the 1940s. whoever running "the wall street journal," you guys deliberately make your website so pathetic that we have to buy the paper. they have an op-ed on hillary clinton and monica lewinsky and we're going to be getting to that. it is a barn burner. you can't read it online. >> i think they hear you. still ahead on "morning joe," some are calling it the biggest academic fraud in collegiate history. what investigators uncovered at the university of north carolina. you're not going to believe this. plus the widespread problem of cyber bullying. it's a bigger problem for one of the sexes. we'll have that for you later in the show. then how far would you go to avoid prosecution for a crime. one man pretended to be in a coma for two years. that story, when we come back.
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it is time to take a look at the morning papers at 24 past the hour. "the wall street journal," the university of north carolina is trying to move forward after an extensive investigation found more than 3,000 students took no-show classes for nearly two decades. many of the classes were in the african-american studies program and half of the students were athletes. nbc's tom costello has more. >> a premier university with top ranked athletes reeling tonight from what may be. the biggest academic fraud. an independent investigator revealed the full scope of the scandal. for two decades basketball and football players followed into
classes that required no class time, no professor and only a single term paper graded by an inadministrati inadministrative assistant yet they received a's and b's so they remained eligible. . there were 188 no-show classes through the 18 years. most in the african-american studies department where the chair u ran the program. >> is there any evidence anybody outside this department knew about this? >> no, and we looked very hard to see if anybody in the chain of command from the department up to the chancellor knew about the deficiencies of these classes and didn't find that knowledge. >> one has claimed that tutors wrote his papers and coaching staff knew of the bogus class, but he refused to cooperates, coach os denied it and investigators found no evidence they knew. students were stunned and
embarra embarrassed. >> especially right now the image is tainted. >> i can say that myself, i have had to bust my butt my entire time here. and just to hear that is a little discouraging. >> the university says the fraud ended in 2011. nine staffers were fired or disciplined and no current coaches were involved. do you buy it? >> no, no, i don't buy it. i'm certainly not equating what happened at penn state morally with what happened at unc. unc is such a great school, it's such a tragedy. but don't tell me there were only a handful of people that were somehow working together to make sure that athletes that made this university hundreds of millions of dollars through the years didn't know about this. it's the same thing as penn state. i don't buy it. and don't tell me it was just a handful of renegades doing this. thomas, i'm sure you agree with
me. that's just way too convenient. >> it is convenient. i think journalists will continue to look at the story with some healthy suspicion about the investigation. >> top level people don't know about this? that's unacceptable. >> this next story deals with coaches. the sexual hazing scandal and new legislation. so several lawmakers will sponsor a bill to legally require educators and coaches to report child abuse. new jersey is one of only two states in the nation that does not have a duty to report law. seven students have been arrested and five teachers and coaches suspended amid-allegations of sexual violence in the locker room. the baltimore sun, commissioner roger goodell has been ordered to testify at ray rice's appeal hearing.
he's expected to reveal the knowledge he had of the domestic dispute. rice's lawyers are expected to argue the nfl and ravens violated the collective bargaining agreement, which prevents players from being punished twice for the same incident. the hearing is set to begin on november 5th. >> that should be interesting. joe, wasn't it goodell who said ignorance wasn't an excuse for not knowing about the big hits campaign and paying out cash. it was in new orleans where they were giving more money for the bigger hits. >> right, he certainly did. he said that. we'll see what happens. i think it's really a dicey situation for the commissioner. things have quieted down, but his story still doesn't completely line up with what a lot of people are saying. so somebody doesn't appear to be
telling the total truth. if he's in a hearing, he's got to be careful with what he says and doesn't say. i don't know, mika, the nfl has skated by. . we'll see if they learned any lessons. >> one more note. the psa "no more." we showed it on "way too earl.". just some of the big stars in the nfl using their voice to talk about domestic violence. the male voices coming out to say the no more campaign, that we won't accept this. it's going to be shown during the games. we look at the kansas city star. let's talk about the world series. >> yeah baby! go royals? >> they are tied going into game three. we have a series, folks. the giants september out five different pitchers. capping off with a two-run homer. the scoring did not sit well with the san fran pitcher who got into a shouting match.
a tense moment that cleared the benches. i said it's good for ratings. the situation did not escalate any further. the royals upped this series with a 7-2 victory. the teams head west for game three coming up tomorrow night. >> i always liked the giants because i love the city of san francisco so much. but you just can't root against the royals. i don't know how you root against the royals. >> you could if you like the orioles. >> i really think -- >> you're so funny. >> this next story, joe, you might want to maybe take note. the daily mail, a man pretended to be a quadriplegic for two years to avoid prosecution for
stealing $64,000. alan knight took money out of a bank account of a neighbor who had alzheimer's and faked being in a vegetative state to avoid appearing in court. he was living off benefits after claiming he suffered a massive injury. he was caught driving and shopping and going on trips with his family. >> i actually tried that, mika, in all of july. about half of june and all of july. i had somebody call phil. >> i thought you were really in a coma. >> i kind of was but not the type of coma that he was talking about. >> it was a summertime kcoma. coming up, a high level graduate seminar. that's how some describe barack obama's crisis management. plus a look at the piece from the "wall street journal" that joe pointed out. the must-reads are ahead on "morning joe." turn the trips you have to take,
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we're going to get to your cover story in a moment. great to have you on. but first, joe, you pointed this it out in the "wall street journal." it's so interesting. it's entitled "an affair to remember." monica lewinsky came out against cyber bullying, talked about being one of the first people to really have her name just splashed across the internet and forever changing her life. part of it say this is and i'll read what we have in a graphic. the problem is that monica lewinsky was the victim of the clinton lagoon. as white house operatives tried to destroy her reputation when the scandal broke. the real bullies weren't online. they were in the west wing. she's been described as a narcissistic looney tune. the clintons weren't above smearing a young woman not much older than their daughter as a blackmailer.
since she brought it up, we also wonder what the modern feminists applauding her address think about men in power publically shaming a female sub ordinate without her concept. >> this obviously would just be a rerun of an episode in our history that any of us care to relive. it was a very ugly time. except for the fact that hillary clinton is going to run for president of the united states. she's going to talk about a war on women and she was famously in charge of the eruptions and people in the west wing, very powerful men, it's their job to destroy any women that were victimized by bill clinton's behavior. and so bill clinton's behavior will not be at issue in 2016. what will be at issue every time
hillary clinton talks about a war on women, as "the wall street journal" points out, will be what she did to 22-year-old interns. we just wonder whether the women's movement will be as shamefully quiet or abusive in 2016 of monica lewinsky as they were. betty frein called her some little twerp. gloria stooi numb said she wasn't going to get involved. how does she talk about a war on women when she engaged in vicious wars on women just to maintain power in arkansas and at the white house? bill clinton's personal behavior will not be at issue. how hillary clinton responded to hold power, to maintain power, to increase power, crushing a
22-year-old woman as an overs oversexed bimbo, i don't know how she gets away from that. >> but i do think there's this cone of silence that might just answer to that, joe. when you said we don't really want to talk about this, sam stein, you said, thank you. why? >> i'm having nervous flashbacks. >> why are you nervous to talk about it? >> i'm not nervous to talk about the issues and what joe mentioned, it's just that this is one of those things that has gone through so many, you know, it rations and litigations and we have talked about it for well over a decade at this point. there's sort of this you get a little tired of it. i would say that joe's point, i u do, and a lot of people do
draw distinction, between now hillary clinton treated a personal family matter, which clearly i would say objectively she was, you know, they treated monica lewinsky terribly. i think the journal is right about that. on the flip side, you can separate that from how hillary clinton would approach policy matters that affect the vast majority of women in the country. those are two different things for people. >> if this were just a personal family matter, that would be one thing. the fact is that hillary clinton would get together with powerful men in arkansas in the governor's mansion and in the west wing and it wasn't to protect her family, it was to protect and increase her power and her husband's power. so it's not just a family issue. >> someone as a political operative at heart. that's a big criticism she has
to confront. >> i agree. she can have very complicated personal. relationship with the women that bill clinton were involved in and whatever she might have said, you could put in that context and separate from the policies she might enact when it comes to women's access to contraception and doing a perfectly good job on that. i'm not sure that we really have discussed this very much. i don't think that the egregious nature of bill clinton's behavior when it came to monica lewinsky or other young women has been at terror. i have a feeling he's had a pass on this. he got a pass on the way he behaved and it was appalling. i don't think he's been held accountable. >> monica lewinsky has not gotten a pass. her life has been -- >> it's been totally turned upside go upside down. >> it is such a pass that he's gotten. and again, we are going into
that swamp. we spoke to one of the most powerful people in washington, d.c. who was talking about this and talking about hillary's issues and the conversation wept around and the name wanita brodrisk came up at the table. that question right there tells you about the cone of silence that's enveloped bill clinton for well over a decade. go ahead, thomas. >> as we look at this and re-examine some of this, let's just decide that time has been served. and release these two women from the past. let's move forward from this. monica lewinsky admits suicidal thoughts. she's 41 years old. she can't be a prisoner to her past. she needs to move forward. it's a new. day in age. hillary clinton, she can move
forward. but t >> thomas, i think bill clinton has been tried and to talk about his character going into 2016, it's lialmost like double jeopardy. americans have decided that he was a bad actor. they like him. the question is we move forward. the question is about hillary clinton's behavior in a position of power and how she used that power and did she use that power improperly to crush young women that her husband took advantage of. i think -- >> as just the spouse of bill clinton? she wasn't an elected official. >> just a spouse? she ran domestic policy pr for the white house. al gore was enraged at how powerful she was because he
wanted to run domestic policy but he learned early on that it was hillary. if hillary had just retired to a farm in gettysburg, pennsylvania, after 2001, we wouldn't be talking about this it. >> what payrollfuls she on? what american payroll was she on? >> the farm sounds alluring. >> what payroll was she on using power to crush young women? >> what was she on trying to crush young women in the way of their power coupleness? >> i mean, first of all, i u don't even know that it's a question of her power. but if you want to talk about living in the arkansas governor's mansion for as long as she did and living in the
white house for as long as she did and being the most important -- the second most important at both of those places, then i don't think there's any question that she used -- i u already said it. i said it enough 15 years ago. it's not my job to talk about. don't cower in the corner. that's all i'm going to say about it. next block we're going to debate wmds. >> it requires an entire conversation. >> i'm going to take a shower now. >> stay with us. terror in ottawa was yesterday's attack the lone wolf. stay with us.
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piece on the crisis management in this week's cover story. the administration veterans describe obama's crisis management process as a high level graduate seminar. what do you mean by u that? >> i think in this case it's a bad thing. what we did in the story was go back and talk to white house officials, people around the white house and try to understand obama's decision making process when he confronts things like ebola. things seem to go briefly hay ware. the way they did in the first two or three weeks of the obama scandal. part of the answer to that question is obama approaches things like a law professor trying to work out a logical conundrum. it's often led obama astray in
the case of ebola listening to experts at the cdc who with respect. prepared to tackle this kind of public health crisis so we saw a couple nurses get infected, the hysteria surrounding the disease skyrocketed. you have two-thirds of americans last week in a poll fearful of a widespread outbreak. it's an example of how not to respond to a crisis u. >> josh green, the cover story. thank you so much. coming up it was a palin family brawl. the more we learn about what happened, it's clear that it's not that funny. the daily callers ask why people weren't more outraged. he joins us next with details.
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she just hit me. >> no one is going to touch my sister. we were in a limo. i walked back up, did you push my sister?
>> that was recently released rud owe of an emotional bristol palin giving her account of the fight. if this is true and we may never know for sure, but she sounds sin veer. then bristol palin was physically, verbally and possibly sexually assaulted by a man. shouldn't that be the lead? but instead of being outraged, this is being treated like some sort of joke. we're taking a closer look at things. i have to say, we covered it that way. looking at the headlines coming out, it looked like a family brawl that i don't know if harmless is the word, but it did
definitely have a humorous tone to it. when you hear the sound byte, you realize it's more than that. >> when i started reading about this, i started doing it like everybody else, to have a little fun at the palin's expense. i started reading this and listening to what she had to say, oh, my god, i can't believe how diskor adapt it is. the headlines are juicy scenes. it's as if it's a joke. when you actually listen to what bristol said. we don't know all the facts, but if she's telling the truth, what happened is horrific and i don't think we should be joking about it. >> what else do we know about what happened? >> there's a police report. nobody was arrested. according to police, everybody there was intoxicated. witnesses say that bristol started it, that she threw a
couple punches at this guy first. but i think when you put it in context where you have a situation -- when i started thinking about things like feminists say like she shouldn't have been drinking or they are white trash. she had it coming. it's blame iing the victim. if what she says is true, it's blame i blaming the victim. >> i just think the bottom line here is in all of us are guilty of this. the palin's are presumed guilty, are presumed to be a punch line, to be a joke. there's the real possibility that something terrible happened to them and todd palin was right. when things happen, some things happen where if your daughter is getting punched or pushed down or verbally or physically assaulted, you have to respond. and so, yeah, i think we all shot first and a lot of people
are guilty to that. >> played into stereotypes or maybe your out outlook. it's definitely more of a story than that. >> i agree with certain headlines have portrayed this. you didn't ask why bristol didn't press charges. should she? should you encourage that? >> i think if her account is true, i would encourage her to do so. there are some pictures of injuries. her legs are a little beaten up from apparently being dragged around. i say go for it. absolutely. get it on the record. >> i agree. >> stay with us, coming up at the top of the hour, a lone gunman strikes in the heart of canada. what this means for the war on terror. plus is colorado out of reach for democrats? the latest polls from that state and several other 2014 battleground states where things are neck and neck in the final days to the election. we'll be right back. (receptionist) gunderman group.
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their national war memorial. sources tell nbc the gunman has been identified as 32-year-old michael joseph hall. he was a convert to islam. so the gunman was later killed in a shootout at the canadian equivalent of capitol hill and at this hour officials are investigating possible ties to terror groups. police wept door to door after witnesses reported there were other armed men in the streets, but officials say they found no evidence of another gunman. parliament will be in session this morning at 10:00 a.m. as scheduled. joining us from washington, tom sanderson, a co-director and senior fellow at the center for strategic and international studies. tom, thanks for joining us. we're looking at so far the concern about terrorism versus an individual crime. what do we know? >> even if it's just an
individual, he can certainly ben gauged in terrorism. we need to find out more information, but given the targets, the parliament, the tomb of the unknown soldiers, this is clearly an effort to bring media eyes and the world's eyes on whatever issue this individual is pushing. now the police in canada are very likely to examine any messages that this person sent, his hard drive, any online activity to get an indication of what it was he was influenced by, who he was influenced by and what issues he was pushing. i think it's probably likely he was acting in furtherance of command from isis or goals by isis to attack those countries supporting the strikes on its fighters. >> big picture, what concerns do you have about this in relation to other things that have happened? >> two days out from another attack on soldiers that resulted
in the death of one of those soldiers, it's an indicator there are individuals out there, at least two of them in canada, who are radicalized by what they see going on, by the role played by their country and there's a clear potential parallel for the same thing happening in the united states. when you have a couple of hundred individuals from both canada and the u.s. who have gone to fight in syria, there's a very good possibility that a couple of those may be coming home. >> tom sanderson, thank you for your insight. we're going to continue to follow this story. we're going to turn to the midterms and the tight u.s. senate race in north carolina. polls show thom tillis and kay hagan are neck and neck. and the negative ads are d dominating the race. "the washington post" crunched the numbers. in fact, the republican candidate in that state is the most attacked contender of 2014 with more than $26 million being spent. against him. and of the top seven, five are republicans including cory
gardener, joni ernst, and tom cotton. outside groups are running 80% of the negative ads. the attacks on thom tillis -- >> i'm confused. because we all know the koch brothers, those two terrible men are the most negative influences on american politics. the national media tells us that and harry reid tells us that and the democratic party tells us that. so now they are giving money to democrats to attack republicans. there's no way this goes on on the other side. 5 out of the 7 top attacked candidates are republicans? why are the coke brothkoch brot this? >> richard, can you explain this? or the critics are at the
hospital for special surgery in other organizations that help people. >> i'm not going to go out there and support negative campaigning. both sides are trying to win ugly in this cycle. the net effects is you depress turnout. so you end up with two bases going after each other. i don't think either side is talking about -- i'm talking about the national parties, they are not trying to inspire people and drive more people into the political process. there's outside money on both sides. this is not a good election. look at the engagement you're seeing in the polls. it's miserable. >> it really is fascinating the media narrative. i read this in "the washington post" yesterday and i was stunned. thom tillis, it's a first time i have seen this poor tillis
character, who i don't even know, he's had $26 million dumped on him by harry reid and outside groups who spend all their time promoting big money and politics. >> and democrats raised early and spent early in this campaign. those outside groups did it in negative ways. and you're going to probably start seeing a pickup in response to that on negative spending from the other side as well. one of the most extraordinary figures is it's going to cost $4 billion, the most expensive midterms ever. probably the least amount of public engagement ever. so you have this election that really the american public is not interested in, don't want to think about politics, fed up with washington and outside groups are spending $4 billion on it. >> we sent casey to north carolina. we have more on that coming up. also sensing a tightening race, democrats are hoping to
give grimes a run in kentucky. they are going back on the air in a state with a $650,000 ad buy. the group went dark in kentucky fueling speculation that the race was a lost cause for the challenger. the reversal fronted one republican strategist to tweet back throwing spa gghetti at th wall again today, this time in kentucky. majority slipping away. the latest blue grass poll has senator mcconnell leading grimes by one point, 44% to 43%. but internal polling released yesterday has him up by 8 points. are there certain polls that lean to allison or what are we looking at here? >> we at "the huffington post" have a healthy skepticism of any internal poll regardless of who puts it out because you only put them out that are going to say
good things. so there's that. this is a tough race. there's a reason the dscc went off the air initially and that's because this is a tough race and democrats were telling us they thought it was at one point out of reach. maybe something magical happened in the past week. they have recalibrated and trying to make something of it. i wouldn't say this is the easiest pickup. i will say that the strategist that you mentioned is grateful for the twitter followers. >> one of the really interesting findings is mitch mcconnell is now winning among women against grimes according to the latest blue grass poll. he's been within 2 or 3 points and now he's winning among kentucky women. the gender gap is nonexistent. >> but you can't just take one polls. >> this is a trend.
he's been within two or three points for months among women. >> hold on a second. i think we should stop here for a second. sam, you said we shouldn't just look at one poll that shows that mitch mcconnell is doing well. but we have had a larger discussion that for some reason republicans are doing better among women in 2014 than they have in some time. why is that? >> well, you know, it's an interesting question. we think of women as voting on strictly on issues of contraception, coverage, equal access, certainly that's a motivating factor. but there are other dynamics at play here. the economy, the president's leadership, things like that, ebola, immigration, all these things are an aggregate. it's hard to pin point one issue and say that's why they are
voting this way. >> i have a radical idea. why don't i ask the women on the panel why. >> hey, i can speak to these issues too. >> you're very sensitive. >> i am. >> katty, do you think they have overplayed their hands for contraception from the hands of female voters? what's going on? >> i don't know. if you look back to the virginia race, it was that issue of contraception and women's health issues that drove the race here a couple years ago. i think women vote on a range of issues. we vote on health to some extent and issues surrounding women's health are important and especially to single, younger women. we're interested in national security, we're interested in economics, women are earning
more than their husbands. they are interested in tax issues. we want a whole range of issues and perhaps this issue of leadership that has bubbled to the surface in a way many of us would not have anticipated. we thought this was going to be an election about health care reform, but ebola, what's happening in the middle east, women are looking at those too. >> and mika, maybe the national democratic party will take that to heart and not just run ads about contraception. >> i think women are interested in competence. they are interested in a range of issues. it's not 20 years ago, 30 years ago. and for kentucky, if that is true, and i think grimes is a pretty good candidate who is evolving and showing that she is sort of correcting along the way, but on the issue of aligning with the president, she stumbled in a big way. and people see through that.
they want competence before they want anything else. i hope she pulls through actually. authenticity as well. the things that men want, i don't think we can be put off in one category completely. do you agree, joe? >> i do. it's also very interesting in '94 when i first ran, i ran against a female candidate. i actually found that women seem to be a lot tougher on her than were male voters. and some of my -- some of the most aggressive supporters of mine were women who i think didn't like her because she was a woman running. it's a strange dynamic. young voters didn't want to vote for me. a 30-year-old guy, but senior citizens i got huge numbers. it's a weird thing. >> i think it's changing. >> it's just never that easy in
politics. >> there's personal appeal. your demographic in that time was older and more female, but it changes with time. it changes with a candidate. i think this cycle there's no question there's more between the candidates than two years ago. but republicans had a bigger advantage with women in 2010. and that speaks, i don't think to the politics of the sexes so much as the bigger trends going through national politics. there were strong republican favor in 2010. these races where you're in one or two points talking about the split of women in kentucky, the samples can be tiny in these polls. so you're segmenting down to levels that are so much within the margin of error. it's a knife edge. >> so in iowa, joni ernst is leading congressman bruce braley 47% to 46%. and she's put out a new ad that
has hogs in it. >> it's a mess. dirty, noisy, and it stinks. not this lot. i'm talking about the one in washington. too many typical politicians hogging, wasting and full of -- well, let's just say bad ideas. it's time to stop spending money we don't have and balance the budget. i'm joni ernst. i approve this message because cleaning up the mess in washington is going to take a whole lot of iowa common sense. >> so she's used to dealing with a lot of stuff, matt. why is this race so close? >> well, you know, i think it's really close because you have a democratic candidate who stumbled early and because joni ernst really just -- there's something about it her. that first ad she ran about castrating hogs, i have never seen an ad that propelled a
candidate so far so fast -- >> it was fantastic. >> she got the establishment and conservatives. everybody was supporting her. so the right is completely aligned behind her. there is no schism, no sort of internal tea party battle against her for. i think she ends up winning. >> yeah, i think women really like that first ad. matt, thank you very much. still ahead on "morning joe," a major warning. no front seat passengers until the air bags are fixed. the reason behind the urgent warning is alarming. then the internet exploded when renee zellweger dawned a new look on the red carpet earlier this week. everyone is talking about it. we'll explain that. you're watching "morning joe," we'll be right back. ring ring!.! it's ok that your soup tastes like my homemade. it's our slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat chicken.
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morning papers. there's an important story for nearly 8 million car owners across the country. it involves an investigation into a deadly problem with their vehicles' air bags. several deaths are being blamed on defective parts that sends pieces of shrapnel flying when deployed. there are ten auto makers and toyota is saying not to allow someone to ride in their front passenger seat until the air bag is fixed. >> it's a big deal. we look at "the new york times," four former worldwide security guards have been convicted for their role in the deadly 2007 baghdad shootings. that resulted in the deaths of 17 iraqi citizens. remember this story? it was huge. these black water contractors say they were ambushed. prosecutors and witnesses say the shooting was unprovoked. blackwater guards were
contracted in baghdad. no sentencing date. boeing is working with the commercial corporation of china to convert used cooking oil into jet fuel. boeing says its china-based plant will change 240,000 liters of cooking oil into fuel every year. that's expected to help drive down the price of fuel production. i like it. we look at "the los angeles times." the maker of camel cigarettes is banning employees from smoking in the office. who knew you could still do that in the office? so beginning next year, workers will be able to light up only in designated indoor areas. still the company will allow the use of smokeless products such as e-cigarettes. it is looking to accommodate smokers and nonsmokers who work or visit the facility. >> joe, no smoking in the office. >> okay, thank you so much. i'll mark that off the list.
but we can still -- fireworks are still okay? >> you're good. this week's cover story reports how tech month gulls are making efforts to help the public education system and eliminate job protections to allow for more flexibility in hiring and firing. so look for that. also with us now from washington, we have the chief white house correspondent for politico mike allen here with the morning's playbook. you're looking at turnover in the white house. key players maybe making an exit soon? what are you hearing? >> after the midterms, maybe after the state of the union address, a couple top names may leave. dan fifer, he may head out. dennis mcdonough, the chief of staff. if the midterms are a disaster for democrats, his departure
might be a way for president to say i'm shaking things up. what we're told is that top aids have been asked, are you going to stay? and if you stay past summer, the idea is that you will stay until the ind. and for people who stay to the end, it can be hard to find jobs. your party might be out of power, but some people we know are staying. the press secretary will stay. jason fehr man will stay. the president will have some of his most comfortable aids around him, but people he's depended on for years, the communications director is someone else who either may head out or might move into another job. so the president who depends on a stable, comfortable, ecosystem may find it's chilly next year. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. look for that in politico. coming up, she's just back
from north carolina. casey hunt takes us through the super close north carolina senate race. we'll be right back. she inspires you.
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do you think that president obama is a strong leader? >> you know, president obama. has a lot on his plate. it seems like whether it's the oil spill that took place a number of years ago in the gulf to this ebola crisis now to isis gaining strength, you look at all the combination of things like that. >> do you think he's acted as strong leader? >> there's definitely -- we have definitely been late to the table in making decisions. being sure that cdc understands and gets messages out to hospitals. >> so you don't think he showed strong leadership? >> there are issues -- >> there she goes again. >> there she goes again.
these are not hard questions to answer. casey asks them in such a nice way. >> sometimes the is simplest questions are the toughest. >> you're so mean. i can't even believe it. >> she's vicious. >> i'm -- i u can't even look at her. that was kay hagan trying to answer that question. here's casey hunt with more on her states at play. >> in north carolina both the barbecue and the politics come with vinegar. >> i think all of us have seen some of the most disastrous things taking place in north carolina since thom tillis has been speaker of the house. >> what's the nicest thing you have to say about senator hagan? >> i don't know senator hagan that well. what i do know is we have very different visions for america. >> this is poised to become the most expensive senate race in history. but nearly $100 million isn't
buying much in the way of inspiration. >> so please know when you look at his policies of adding your retirement income to be taxed, that's just wrong. that is just so wrong. >> senator hagan needs to be replaced and president obama needs to get into a mode where he's working with congress. >> reporter: north carolina could be critical to republican hopes of taking the senate. voters here backed president obama in 2008 but supported mitt romney in 2012. when conservatives also won control of the state legislature. >> speaker thom tillis froze teacher salariesalaries. >> reporter: deep cuts to education sparked mass protests called moral mondays. they set the backdrop for a senate race flooded with pig names and outside money.
>> suspect there a metric that it's the biggest -- that's amazing. i have never seening in like that where i come from. >> reporter: through it all hagan maintained a slight edge in the polls but anxious itty over isis and ebola is royaling the race in the final weeks. >> we need to make sure we have people at the top that are getting the situation under control and making americans feel like they are not making up the place as they go. >> reporter: hagan needs distance from the president, but she has to be careful. when president obama won here in 2008 african-americans turned out in droves. if she's going to win this year, she needs the obama coalition to stick together. >> there's no alternative to the african-american vote being out there. and on the ground, we're going to do everything we can to get the vote out. >> we have your back. >> early voting gets underway in north carolina today. casey joins us now. so it seems like she was struggling with that question.
she got through it. do people in north carolina want their candidates, democrats, to say bad things about the president? why is there this sort of fear that you see in their eyes if you ask a question about president obama. solely because of his approval ratings? >> it's a tough question because of the way she has to balance keeping this coalition together. the president has become more unpopular in north carolina with a certain segment of the elect rat, but she has to make sure she doesn't come across as too supportive of the president -- >> i don't hear anybody saying i need my candidate to be hateful toward the president. he's done some great things. he's pushing for equal pay. he's done this and this and this on his leadership overall there have been some gaps and that's why i want to go back o to washington. >> the fear is giving their opponents an easy sound byte to say this or that.
it's a delicate dance for them to walk. if you pull the lens back, it's an example of everything going on in the country nationally. you have the president's dropping approval rating, concern with ebola and isis. two candidates who are generic and all these outside groups flooding the zone with money. >> let's bring in moderator of "meet the press" chuck todd live from ames, iowa. we have a new poll out just this hour that has republican joni ernst up two points now over democratic congressman bruce braley, 46% to 48% what's going on there? >> today i'm spending most of my cay in iowa. yesterday i did kansas. i want to talk about that in a minute. for what it's worth, there's so many bad public polls and erratic public polls, that one, the two-point gap, that's about what both parties quietly will admit the race really is.
ernst has a slight lead between one and two points. some days it's as low as a tied race, but she has a slight lead. the question is does the iowa democratic party's turnout machine, which is come through through thick and thin for the democrats before, is it enough to overcome two or three-point gap that it does feel like right now ernst is holding. >>. >> chuck, you look at iowa, one or two point-lead is holding. i'm curious. two quick questions. one, do you see any trend lines out there nationally? and were you as surprised as i was yesterday when "the washington post" reported that 5 out of the 7 candidates that have been attacked the most by negative ads have been
republicans. and tillis has had $26 million dumped on him. democrats are beating republicans in the spinning wars. >> well, when you look at the full numbers, we show actually republicans if you look at the analysis are leaving out the 501 c 3s. you have to wait. the figures we show that the outside money is about dead even. but when you look at what you're talking about, joe, the fact is democrats spend more time between july and september almost focused like a laser beam on negative ads on these specific republican candidates. thom tillis is the prime example. if kay hagan wins, the assumption will be it's simply that democrats, their outside groups were smarter and more effective in north carolina than the republican outside groups.
the republican money in north carolina all came a lot earlier. kay hagan had her worse numbers nine months ago. there's going to be some questions. if they hold by a seat there's going to be some finger pointing saying, you know what, you wasted your money too early. you should have done what the democrats did is hoard and do it later and more compact and have more impact. as far as a trend line, one of the things that's happened is what we saw an erosion last week. a slight bounceback and democrats think it's because we haven't had another ebola victim. >> chuck todd, thank you so much. we greatly appreciate you being with us. casey hunt, so in connecticut, obviously, when so much money was spent by mcman, there was a backlash in her two senate races.
any backlash that you hear on the ground for $26 million being spent against this tillis guy, $26 million in attack ads. i'll say it again. $26 million of democratic outside groups are spending to attack this guy. is there a backlash there or is it working? >> i think there's a general backlash among all voters. the voters i ran into are sick of this race. tillis has spent an hour on local tv talking to himself. it was supposed to be a debate but senator hagan declined to attend. >> why did she decline to attend? >> the schedule was set in july. they agreed to three debates. but tillis was asked why he ran. and his answer was interesting to me because he said i kind of fell on the sword. we needed a candidate to step up
who was going to be strong and could potentially be kay hagan who would be willing to undergo millions of outside attacks. i could have gone back into business, but i'm going to step up and face this on slot. so i think he knew full well what he was getting into as did senator hagan. >> that's a valid point. you have all this money coming in and personal attacks on both sides. what you're going to have is a discouragement of good people discourage them from entering the arena. it's a bad by-product. >> we're in a discussion where voters want people that are going to speak to their issues. you see strains on both sides of the aisle. if you're not somebody that comes from wealth, it's hard. >> why didn't kay hagan come? >> the schedule was set in july. the three debates they did agree to are the same ones that he agreed to when he ran. >> casey hunt, thank you so much. scary. up next, panic in the heart of the canadian capital has
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isis or is he a lone wolf. the success of isis in the middle east i think is really inspiring a lot of people that are maybe it's a tendency towards jihadism or this lone wolf idea. people feel like they don't belong and they see something that draws them in. the leadership says if you can shoot a gun, take a gun into somewhere. it's tragic. this is something we're going to have to fight with for some time. >> congressman, we know that isis has said that once the bombings started in iraq then they saw an uptick in membership and people joining jihad. now that they expanded to syria, are we starting to see more of that? turkey has been trying to work on the flow. are we still seeing just as many westerners?
>> i think it's something we have to be very intense on both here with our european partners and now with canada. part of the reason you're seeing the uptick, i called for it a year ago. there was 2,000 of them. today there's 40,000. the more success they get is success in this. you see it expand, you're going to see a lot of people -- a tiny fraction is bent towards jihadism, that's still a lot of people. >> one of the things that katty was getting at, when we engage in these bombing attacks there's a backlash. it serves as a recruitment tool. to what extent is a counterterrorism operation dependent on us recruiting moderate muslims to say, no to
isis, but to take up part of the fight towards them. >> it's huge. that's part of the reason too i have been calling for a no fly zone in syria. but they have a toxic environment where you have the creation of isis and extremist groups because people feel alienated. there's a military option you have to do on those that are terrorists today, but we have to look at the next generation. it's job, education, economic development. if you look at west africa, if we allow that to degenerate into chaos, it's going to be a fertile breeding ground for terrorism. >> what about people who are like minded as yourself who think you reap what you sew. if you're looking for moderate muslims, to sam's point, who is thinking like you in washington, d.c. that wants to seek that out as well? >> there's a group of us. this would have been better to have -- especially when we're talking about the fsa specific.
now they are a battered group. in terms of the long-term, i think there's people that understand that you can't go to war with muslims. it's an idea of going to war against an extremist ideology, but recruiting folks. there's a great opportunity for the muslim community to come out and say what this guy did in the parliament does not represent our ideology. >> the rebel commanders you met with, what was your takeaway that you department know before or the bottom line walking away? >> they are happy we are hitting isis, but they see the bigger enemy as bashar al assad. they are disappointed we are not coordinating with them better. they have been promised a lot from the united states before. and i think there's a lot of misfaith or unfaith in our ability to follow through. it's very worrisome. the next few months is going to be telling. the fsa is fighting on two fronts. this is going to be a long-term
war if there are boots on the ground. >> congressman, thank you for being on the show this morning. still ahead, the world health organization has called violence against women a global health problem of ep pem demic promogs. the disturbing role that social media plays in that attack. we'll be right back.
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here with us now, editor and chief of "glamour," cindy levy. the magazine is out with a new survey on women and their body image. the renee zellweger story and women being targeted online, but this is interesting. tell us what you found. >> the first major body image of survey 30 years ago in 1984 and found at the time that 41% of women were unhappy in some way with the way they looked. we reprised the survey now in 2014 and found the number had actually gone up to 54%. 80% of the women we surveyed, women in their 20s, 30s and 40s said just looking in the mirror made them feel bad about themselves. >> what is behind that, do you think? >> a lot of different factors. we live in a more visual life.
the pressure is be slim but also be strong and muscular and fit and toned. that's a very hard balance for a lot of women to pull off. the one factor the experts who looked at our survey said made the biggest difference, particularly over the last two years, was the impact of social media. in general, women who spent more time scrolling through pictures of quote/unquote regular women on social media felt worse about their bodies than those who did not and it's pretty striking. it's not just being on the internet that's the factor here, it's really going down that rabbit hole of looking at pictures of other women and comparing themselves. >> so that would lead to decisions about changing their appearance and living up to the standards. we were talking about renee zeg weller renee zellweger, about
changes she has made to herself and is she not admitting to it or what's the deal? >> she's made comments about reaction to her appearance on the red carpet that there were issues with recognizing her. she's saying, i'm happy and i'm healthy. if you're happy and you're healthy, or that's what you're projecting, saying i'm happy and healthy, that's the bigger issue is your general happiness. >> listen, as far as i'm concerned, no good can come of criticizing how another woman looks, that is just bad karma. >> i think so too. i'm not sure why it's this huge. alex tells me this is flying around on the internet. i just don't care -- >> i mean, if we put these two images back up. are we seeing a big difference here, other than a woman who's naturally aged a bit? >> i think people are looking at these images and feeling they look different. i also feel like here we are on
a morning show dissecting how a woman looks. is that a good thing for the world, i don't think so. >> they look different but i agree, those statisticings were terrifyingly said. to have to go through life like that every day wondering if you look good has got to be the worst feeling. >> our survey looked at men too. they're not immune. about a third said they were not particularly with the way they looked. i think that's probably up from where it was 30 years ago but it doesn't affect men at their core. when we asked men what the number one priority was in their life, they said being successful. for women, i think this is sad, it was losing weight. there is some good news, when you looked at the women in our survey who had positive body image, number one, they didn't spend an endless amount of time on social media, important lesson there, and number two, almost all of them exercised. they were not all slim. the happiness that you could get at any weight.
it was just being able to do something with your body that made you feel powerful and exercise does that, rather than just evaluating yourself. >> you spend all your day in front of a computer looking at images of other women and you don't get out and exercise and feel good about yourself. >> on renee zellweger, she looks good before, she look, good after, i just don't care. sorry, that's the point i wanted to get when i was waving my arms like this. go ahead, cindy. >> if we want to send a message they're valued for things other than their looks -- >> and arguing over it, it's ridiculous. >> one of the interesting things about this social media factor is we all know that for years we've been looking at pictures of very slim celebrity, very slim models. i think a lot of women look and think, i expect beyonce to look fantastic. she's got an army of 200 people helping her eat right and exercise. >> whose job depends on her looking fantastic. >> the thing about social media
is you feel like you're looking at the door next door. you think, ooh, she's doing it, i ought to be able to do it too. >> isn't the same thing for renee zellweger, this is a woman who's chosen to go into the public eye, an oscar winner, someone who will audition for the rest of her life if she chooses to be in the role of an actress and going after parts and walking red carpets, she'll always be criticized. >> i think fundamentally, actress, nonactress, for any woman or man what you want to do is think about how do i want to be remembered at the end of my life. it sounds corny and profound but most of us want to be remembered for what we accomplished with our relationships and you don't want to be remembered for, thank god, i got down to size 2. >> everyone gets caught up in this incredible race and pressure, especially girls. i think that's something we need to try and drive home as much as we can. cindy levy, thank you.
up next, the canadian prime minister says the country will not be intimidated by yesterday's shooting. we'll go live to ottawa and speak with a member of parliament who was under lockdown until late last night. plus, elizabeth warren says she's been treated differently by people on capitol hill. also, some are calling it the biggest academic fraud in collegiate history. when "morning joe" comes right back. hi, are we still on for tomorrow? tomorrow. quick look at the weather. nice day, beautiful tomorrow. tomorrow is full of promise. we can come back tomorrrow. and we promise to keep it that way.
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good morning. it is thursday, october 23rd. welcome to "morning joe." we have white house correspondent for the huffington post sam stein. in washington, anchor for bbc america, morning kay. a lot of politics to get to. big news out of canada to start with. it was unfortunately eerily reminiscent to what happened in the u.s. capitol in 1988, i think it was '88, shot and killed a guard at the u.s. capital. and so the question is whether this is a larger plot, which certainly right now doesn't look like it is, or a random act, but we'll see. >> the prime minister is vowing the country will not be
intimidated. sources tell nbc the gunman has been identified as 32-year-old michael joseph hall from quebec. he's also used another name and was a convert to islam. the gunman was killed in a shootout and at this hour officials are investigating possible ties to terror groups. nbc's pete williams has more on a terrifying day in ottawa. >> police frantically searched for armed men most of the day in the center off ottawa, canada's fourth largest city. a soldier standing guard at canada's national war memorial was shot and seriously wounded by a man with a rifle, a shocking scene, witnessed by many bystanders. >> just passing, just over here. just heard a shot, there was a guy with a rifle just around on
the back corner. and just pow, pow. >> i thought it was firecrackerings. i look across the street and there's a man with a rifle shooting at a bunch of people. >> witnesses say the gunman hijacked a car. >> didn't hurt the gentleman in the car. and took off towards the back here and headed in that direction. >> the gentleman went about a third of a mile. heading to the session. dozens of shots rang out inside the building's ornate halls. members of parliament inside meeting room also reacted by piling furniture against the doors. outside, members were hustled away by police and security. canadian authorities say the gunman was shot and killed in parliament central hall of honor by the sergeant at arms. >> police went door to door
after witnesses reported there were other armed men in the streets. officials say they found no evidence of other armed gunmen. we're joined from ottawa by the former editor of "the new york times," now member of the canadian parliament, used to be on "morning joe" a lot, christa freeland. you were there, lock down in parliament yesterday, until 8:00 last night. tell us what the scene was like. >> it was a very frightening time. i was walking towards our caucus meeting yesterday morning, as it happens, either by coincidence or design, when there's large members of congress in the building, it's a time when there's weekly caucus meetings. i was walking towards my caucus meeting. i heard in the stair well above me shots, which i recognized as shots.
i ran into a nearby room and i hid there. so that was a lucky choice for me. i was soon joined by a lot of security staff who were really helpful. i spent the rest of the day, as did the mps, being shuffled around from room to room as they tried to clear the building. i would like to say one thing which is i like all canadians today. he's the canadian soldier who was shot and killed at our war memorial yesterday, and is the most important casualty of yesterday's tragic events. >> sam stein. >> just a quick question, so i'm glad to see you're okay and thoughts obviously go to the officer who was killed. just a quick question. what is the latest we know about the motivation of the shooter? >> we still -- we still don't know. it's less than 24 hours since
all of this happened. it's being investigated. i think that we have to be really careful about speculating too much before we have full details. what i am really pleased about is the house. our parliament will be in session today at 10:00 in the morning. we are determined that we're not going to be intimidated by all this. and canada's not going to change. >> okay, christa freeland, thank you so much. good to see you. hope to see you under better circumstances and of course covering this story coming back to us. thank you. we're going to turn to the battle for the senate. a new polling suggesting we are in for an exciting nail biter. have you seen some of these numbers? in iowa, journey ernst, i'm telling you, she's leading congressman bruce brawly 47% to 46%. she had the nickname, she may live up to that, you don't know.
scott brown with a one-point lead over jeanne shaheen. in colorado, challenger congressman corey gardner, a seven-point lead over mark udall. he leads that race 46% to 39%. joe, is there any way to describe what's going on? >> if you just take those three polls, it looks like things are breaking the republican's way. democrats will tell you they believe the race in colorado is much closer. those are the same democrats also tell you off the record certain races that they believe they've already lost. so, boy, maybe an outlier in colorado. i'll tell you the one that's really sticking out to me right now is new hampshire. let's put that up back up. sam stein in new hampshire. debates matter. i had a democratic operative tell me that jeanne shaheen looked stiff and brittle and a little angry on stage the other night. they were very worried about her
performance in the debate. of course, this is only one point. all these polls are one point. last weekend swing could shift control one direction or another. scott brown, one point ahead with a week or so to go. >> that's a big surprise. new hampshire being tight. people said they expected her to win. democrats said they expected her to win by a couple points. if it gets down to that sort of tightness, then democrats are in for a long night. people are going to say it's closer. every trend line is pointing corey gardner's way at this juncture. they should recognize corey gardner does have a growing lead. i know the state has a mail-in ballot. things are clearly trending towards the republican direction there.
>> sam, you have to look. somebody asked me the other day, i think it was -- said, do i think editorials still matter, endorsements still matter. and delivers an absolutely blistering attack on the democratic candidate, mark udall, and then on top of that, you have the fact that he's saying he's trying to get away from barack obama and he's going to be tough. voted about 95% of the time. even "the new york times" yesterday was saying of these democrats that they were doing themselves a grave disservice. i just -- i don't think senator udall looks to be the most straight forward guy right now in this race. >> it's funny, there's only one sort of general theme that ties all these races together. that's the president. in some races, obama's clearly an anchor on the candidate.
you saw it in kentucky, where grimes was pressed on who she voted for and she couldn't just state the obvious, which is barack obama. since then, you've seen a cascading effect where every single candidate is asked to express their positions. what do you think of the handling of the health care law. it's really swamped the end of the election and it hasn't been the great of the for democrats. there are some races where it hasn't been as bad as others. in georgia, for instance, the democrat, michelle nunn is doing surprisingly well, but in colorado particularly you can see it being a problem. >> i'm fascinated by what's happening up in wisconsin. scott walker hanging on by one point in most polls. that's an extraordinarily close race, a lot closer than a lot of republicans would have thought it would be. this is going down to the wire. and maybe there's a trend line, a point or two this way or that
way for republicans, but that could all change. >> you mentioned scott walker. meanwhile, there are several closely contested gubernatorial races to keep an eye on. scott walker has a slight lead over mary burke in wisconsin. florida, governor rick scott, charlie crist, tied at 42%. 7% for adrian wily. they're essentially divided along gender lines. men favor scott by 8 points. in connecticut, 2010 all over again for governor dannel malloy who won the ray by republican foley by less than 10% but the latest quinnipiac poll has him leading malloy in their rematch. these governor races are as exciting. when you look at florida in the
race, how bitter those debates have been. fans or no fans, particularly, i think florida colorado race, we're going to looking at the women again, how many women turn out to vote, perhaps in colorado, the thing that democrats, drawing some caution or hispanics underrepresented. certainly in that gubernatorial race in florida. >> isn't it democrats don't have the same gender gap advantage that they've had in the past this year. colorado especially, udall's getting mocked for the issues, trying to paint his opponent as
a cartoon figure. >> i would not overstate that. this is an issue that motivates a lot of men voters. the question, some you see gender gaps. in colorado, the key question appears to be what percentage of the key hiss sppanic population going to come out. whether they're going to be angered for essentially punting on one of their biggest priorities which is immigration reform. there are consequences to decisions that were made many months ago to punt on this. one of those could be in colorado. >> now to this. she isn't naming names but senator warren says she has been treated differently by colleagues on capitol hill because she's a woman. when the massachusetts was asked if she wanted to elaborate, she answered simply no. she did say the different treatment wasn't surprising.
to change these big male dominated institutions. to bring change to that place. so i think that's just powerfully important. >> why is it -- mika, i'm just curious, why is it that women, powerful women in the united states senate, are talking about discrimination, gender discrimination, gender bias, being treated differently in the workplace. and yet when pressed to name the offenders, refused to say anything. i mean, this is -- this cone of silence, to protect powerful men, i'm sorry, i thought that's what the feminist movement was fighting against where men in powerful positions of authority who sexually harassed are com t
committed gender bias would be called out. why wouldn't they be called out? >> the conversation about senator gillibrand who wrote about it in her book but choose not to publicly name the defenders. i met with her yesterday, interviewing her for my book. she is as impressive as they come. on this issue, the fear is the moment and you are still in a position where you're not really on an equal level to say something back or you were powerful enough to move beyond it and make change on a bigger level which i think is kirsten's point. do you know the context? >> no, can you explain? >> she's asked about it. i don't think it's fair to ask her to elaborate. but if she has something she wants to put out there and not name names, i don't thing that he really helps. >> one of the positions they say is that, you know, if you go by napie i
naming name, it becomes easy for the conversation to focus on that one individual who you accuse of being a harasser. what they wanted was a broader conversation about general culture of the institution. and, you know, that's one of the reasons why. i think there's something compelling to that. >> i'm all for naming names. joe. >> i mean, catty, catty kay, if you were working at the bbc and there are men going around and they're treating you differently and there's gender bias at the bbc or there's sexual harassment or people are grabbing you at the bbc, and you're a reporter that goes around reporting again sexual harassment, you would call them out. a responsibility to call them out. you would. so why won't these powerful senators do the same thing? i'm really confused. >> i think it depends -- you named the various degrees of offense, right. if there's gender bias, if
there's sexual harassment. if somebody grabs you. those are potentially quite different things. if somebody actually physically does something to you, absolutely you have to name names and call them out. and do whatever is needed to have that person brought to some kind of justice whatever it is. if it's -- >> that's obviously in the case of gillibrand. >> if it's some kind of implicit gender bias, you have to highlight the problem as a whole and i'm not sure saying that person treated me disrespectfully in a meeting. i don't know if those cases whether naming names is particularly helpful because you get into a tit-for-tat situation where it becomes about the relationship between those two people. i do think when it's egregious you have to call it out by name. when it's broader, you are trying to get to a broader problem, not an individual relationship. >> for elizabeth warren, she was asked about it, so the answer's
yes. that's a little different. i'm sympathetic on kristin's front. i still think you should name names. i will say -- >> the thing is, mika, you wrote -- you wrote a book about it. you blew -- i mean, you blew the place up at msnbc and demanded fair treatment and you got fair treatment and you started a discussion and you brought in the president of msnbc who actually got engaged and participated in it and everybody did. and because you did that, other people are treated differently and better. >> i agree with that completely. >> why do you have the most powerful women in america sitting back, saying, if you're in the workplace and there's gender bias against you, there's a war against women, so we want you to fight against it, fight
again in the war against women. >> when you looked at my situation, it had to be done. when we talk -- and i'm reading kristin's book, when you talk about her get poked and called chubby, it's totally completely unacceptable. but i will say, we women have to pick our battles. is it worth taking on and bringing down that person at that moment or working on a higher level, making more change, what she's doing. >> i do understand the whole thing about picking your battles. i carefully pick my battles -- >> no, you don't. you just go through like a bulldozer. >> i pick them. that one, that one, that one, that would be. >> you need to read kirsten's book. it's really good. age may be nothing but a number but it turns out it's just a mind-set too. the fascinating study that suggests all you need to do to act younger is to think younger. plus, a man in a coma for two years or so people thought as he was attempting to avoid prosecution. his story is next.
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"the wall street journal," the university of north carolina is trying to move forward after an extensive investigation found more than 3,000 students took no show classes for nearly two decades. many of the classes were in the african-american studies program. about half of the students were athletes. nbc's tom costello has more. >> reporter: the university of north carolina, a premier university, with top-ranked athletes, reeling tonight, from what may be the biggest academic fraud in collegiate history. >> this never should have been allowed to happen. >> reporter: an independent investigator revealed the full scope of the scandal. for two decades, basketball and football players funneled into classes that required no class time, no professor and only a single term paper graded by an administrative assistant. the athletes received as and bs so they could play sports. more than 3,100 students took
188 no show classes over 18 years. most through the african-american studies department. where the administrative assistant and department chair ran the program. former federal prosecutor ken waynestein. is there any evidence anybody outside this department knew about this? >> no. we looked very hard to see if anybody in the chain of command from the department up to the chancellor knew and we didn't find that knowledge. >> reporter: this person, who played on the championship basketball team, has claimed tutors wrote his papers. but he refused to cooperate. the coaches denied it. investigators found no evidence they knew. unc students were stunned and embarrassed. >> especially right now, the image is tainted. >> i can say, myself, i've had to bust my butt my entire time here. just to hear that is a little discouraging. it is. >> the university, joe, said the
fraud ended in 2011. nine staffers were fired or disciplined. no current copes were involved. do you buy it? how does that -- >> no, no, i don't buy it. i don't buy it. i'm certainly not equating what happened at penn state morally with what happened at unc. it's such a tragedy. but don't tell me that there were only a handful of people that were somehow working together to make sure that athletes that made this university hundreds of millions of dollars through the years didn't know about this. it's the same thing as penn state. i don't buy it. don't tell me that it was just a handful of renegades doing this. thomas, i'm sure you agree with me, that's just way too convenient. >> it is convenient. i think they'll look at unc with healthy suspicion. >> decades, really? and top level people don't know?
that's unacceptable. completely. >> this next story also deals with coaches, one that we've been following. the fallout over the sexual hazing scandal at war memorial high school may lead to new legislation in the state of new jersey. several lawmakers there, democrats, will sponsor a bill to legally require educators and coaches to report child abuse. new jersey is one of only two states in the nation that does not have a duty to report law. seven students have been arrested. five coaches and teachers suspended amid allegations of sexual violence in the school's locker room. >> "the baltimore sun." nfl commissioner roger goodell has been ordered to testify as a witness at ray rice's appeal hearing. goodell is expected to reveal what knowledge he had of the domestic dispute between the former ravens running back and his then fiance. expected to argue the nfl and rave bes violated the collective
bargaining agreement which prevents players from being punished twice for the same incident. the hearing is said to begin on november 5th. >> that will be really interesting. wasn't it goodell who said ignorance wasn't an excuse for not knowing about the big hits campaign, paying out cash? i think it was in new orleans where the coaches will say we'll give you more money for the bigger hits you have. ignorance wasn't an excuse for that. >> right, he certainly did. he said that we'll see what happens. i think -- i think it's going to be a dicey situation for the commissioner. things have quieted down. but his story still doesn't completely line up with what ray rice and a lot of people around ray rice are saying. if he's in a hearing, he's got to be very careful with what he says and what he doesn't say. i don't know, mika. the nfl has skated by. we'll see if they learned any
lessons. >> yeah, one more note on the psa. the no more campaign. we showed it on way too early. some of the big stars in the nfl. the male voices that are coming out. which is very cool and that's going to be shown during the games. >> the daily mail. a british man pretended to be a quadriplegic and comatose for two years to avoid prosecution for stealing $64,000. allen knight took money out of the bank account of a neighbor who had alzheimer's and then faked being in a vegetative state to avoid appearing in court. he was living off benefits after claiming he suffered a massive injury. knight was busted when authorities caught him shopping, driving and going on trips with his family. >> you know, i actually tried that, mika, in half of july -- well, actually, all of july, half of june, all of july. i had somebody call phil and tell him but -- >> i thought you were really in
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rise up like lazarus. i said rise up. yes. come on. say hallelujah. walk. walk on. >> that was a scene from the 2008 movie "the curious case of
benjamin button" where a man got younger as he grew older. it turns out that people can get younger as they get older if they just think that way. is that possible? "new york times" magazine writes about a groundbreaking 1981 study where eight men in their 70s were told to think and act like they did when they were 22 years younger. they did things like listening to perry como. reading magazines from 1959. they were treated like they were younger men as well. at the end of the study, they were sitting taller and showing more dexterity. the researchers said the supple's minds went back to an early time in their lives when their bodies went along for their ride. this spring, a similar study will be done. this type, involving women with stage four breast cancer. the women will be told to behave like it's 2003 when they were healthy. dvds from movies like "the titanic" will be available, as will books and magazines from
the start of the millennium. the researchers want to see if there will be an effect on the size of their tumors and energy and pain levels. this is kind of amazing but it is a little bit about the mind. perhaps having an impact on the state of the body. "the new york times" magazine is also looking at technology's effects on aging. in this weekend's new issue, contributing writer clive thompson writes about the brain training games that may help reverse some of the effects of aging and the big business those games have become. and clive joins us now. i could use a few of those. i'm getting forgetful. tell us about your piece in terms of how it pertains to everything we've been talking about here. because that study is fascinating. >> what i'm writing about is the brain training game. these little games you play on the phone or on the computer. they can be like a concentration game. or a memory game. and the goal is, the theory is,
if you play them, it will sort of give your brain exercise that will improve its ability to concentrate, ability to focus. i was trying to figure out in that story whether that's really true, whether the science supports that. >> thomas. >> well, there is -- >> he can't remember his question. sam was playing his brain game. i'm looking act how there are certain groups that have come out in support of brain training apps and then, like stanford center on longevity came out this week on the 20th against the app, saying there really is no consensus on this data. they said at the end of their statement we encourage continued careful research and validation in this field. so they're fun, but we don't have enough time and investment in the research yet, do we, clyde? >> the stanford folks are basically correct. there's been a bunch of work but not enough to confirm what's going on. the big question with these games, if you play one for a little while, you'll get better at that game. but do you get better at
everyday tasks? right. >> can you find your keys? >> exactly. joe, do you have your glasses, did you find them? >> yeah, i found my keys. bill clinton a couple of years ago was talking about how he does mind games. he does in the morning, he would start out and he'd do some of these games. soduku for instance. after a very long day of reasoning i working, he would do them again and measure how he did. he keeps a running tally of how he keeps his mind active. i mean, i don't see how keeping your mind active with these sort of brainteaser games can't be seen as a benefit for everybody. >> it makes sense to me. it's like any muscle in your body, if you work it out, you're going to get more muscular. >> it's just like going to the gym. you can go to the triceps. you can have a great tricep but will that help you be better in sports? it's the same thing with your brain. if you get better at one of these games, that's great, but
you know -- >> we're talking about two different things. one is working out your brain. the second thing is understanding what the brain does for you. the whole, you know, concept of studying the brain obviously something that's been pushed by this administration, it could completely exploit our medical understanding. if we just understood in a better way how the brain affects your body. >> you're getting better science come along. they studied it a little bit but there's much more serious stuff coming along. you could say the industry's maturing a little bit. very, very patient work on a game. they actually did seem to find and really document for the first time the transfer of abilities from the game to other parts of your game. >> it's big money. joe, jump in. >> i agree. you can talk about, you can go and train your muscles and you may not be able to do certain
tasks but you certainly keep your muscles engaged. there's a reason why supreme court justices are still on the bench at 90, 91, because their keep their minds active. you see that time and time again. are there any games in particular that seem to do a better job than others? >> the one that has an interesting effect is what's called a test of your speed of processing, how fast you react to something. this is one that's being studied. ten years ago, they had some people play it. they played it for about 10 or 20 hours. ten years later, they had lower rates of auto collisions. the idea that somehow if you can get your speed of processing, your ability to react to situations, up a little bit, that helps you when you're older. now, your point about the supreme court justices is interesting, because one of the things that all the brain scientists will tell you is apart from the game, one thing that does help your brain be nimble is constantly master new
skills and new situations. that's probably really what the justices are doing. they're always having to grapple with new stuff, come to new conclusions. >> create new brain pathways. >> yeah, there you go. >> my grandmother did exactly that. she spoke 11 languages. >> whoa. >> uh-huh. okay, clive thompson, thank you so much. we'll be reading your piece. this sunday, "new york times" magazine. >> the brain, the final frontier. >> coming up, we've been focus ed on the threat of isis. and that terror group's use of social media. it turns out there's another group using twitter in a frightening way. the shocking and disturbing story of what mexican narco traffickers did to one woman who tried to stand up to him. cnbc's sara eisen has the numbers and how the market will likely react. that's next.
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the circumstances surrounding her death and how the identity was exposed are still cloudy. her colleagues are vowing to continue posting information despite the threats to their lives. it is an incredibly horrific story. >> awful. >> we're going to move now to business before the bell with cnbc's sara eisen. sar sara, what do you have? >> we're in earnings season here. general motors out this morning with results. it turns out their profit fell less than analysts were expecting. people were most surprised about the strength in north america. in fact, general motors had its best third quarter for global sales since 1980. given the fact that general motors in a year had to recall 30 million vehicles and had to pay a fine of $35 million for that slow response to faulty ignition switch. recall that ended up killing
people. united continental for instance coming out and saying profits surged 134%. southwest came out with better earnings and so did american airlines. jet fuel, a huge cost, has come way down in price on those lower oil prices. so the airlines are more effective at managing their costs. it's been a beaten up group lately. as fear spread over ebola it the idea that people would not want to fly. so they've been sort of beaten up in the stock market. these results show the airlines were not really managing their cost very effectively. on that oil note, $80 a barrel is what the price of crude oil is here and that means that the price at the pump continues to go lower. the national average right now is about $3 a gallon. in places like st. louis, missouri, i was looking this up, $2.65. wow, that is going to be a huge help for people this summer as they maybe take a road trip. >> and also google has g-mail
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based on your playing brain apps in the commercial breaks. >> this isn't natural. >> i'm going to download some because i want to be smart like sam. >> joe, learn anything today? where are your glasses? did you find them? >> you know, i learned actually that this new g-mail inbox app, which is supposed to make your life he's yes requieasier, requ invitation. a really stupid thing for professionals. i just wasted my time downloading the app and now they say have a friend or wait for us to invite you. no thank you. if it's way too early for "morning joe." stick around, it's time for "the daily rundown." we'll see you tomorrow. attack in ottawa. one parliament leader says it's a day when canada lost its innocence and prime minister harper calls the gunman a terrorist. meanwhile, back in washington, another man jumps the white house fence just as new details emerge about another secret service lapse from a few
>> my attitude about all this at this point is trust. trust, but verify. >> trust but verify. where have i heard that before? >> the importance of this treaty transcends numbers. trust but verify. >> threw have it the high watermark of our new era of bipartisanship is the senate majority leader implying he is to obama as reagan was to the leader of our totalitarian nemesis, the evil empire. [ laughter ] well my feeling of despair is
brought to me by historical context. [ laughter ] it's why old people are sad. [ laughter ] >> it only gets better. good morning, everybody, it's friday, november 7th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set we have washington anchor for bbc world news america, cat cat. managing editor of bloomberg news and steve rattner. on capitol hill host and managing editor of tv one's news one. and joe i feel everything will be better, right? >> you're being sarcastic, mika. >> no. i'm so hopeful. what do you think? >> i think i'm very hopeful too. i think everything is changing. and i think the most important thing is we're finally going to have accountability. if republicans on the hill don't get things done they will pay
for it in two years. the electorate taught them that over the past four years. same thing with the president. if the president and democrats don't do things they will get punished as well. people are getting so excited about barack obama, he came out and he didn't seem to get it and blah, blah, blah. now it's oh, john boehner, he was so mean. he talked about when you play with matches you're going to burn yourself. guess what? these are opening arguments. as nicole said yesterday, barack obama was narrow casts only to his base when he went out and talked. he have the same thing with john boehner who has more republicans right now working alongside of him than any speaker since 1929. he's playing to that base. i promise you, just like i said immigration reform would never ever happen a year and a half ago when everybody said oh, they got to pass immigration reform. i'm telling you now we'll see
immigration reform pass, we'll see energy legislation pass. peace may not break out but we'll get some things done. >> i hope you're right. i like your hopeful tone. >> happy friday. >> it doesn't sound like it. president obama is set to meet with a group of bipartisan congressional leaders, it's the first time since democrats lost control of the senate in the mid-term elections. on wednesday presumptive majority leader mitch mcconnell set a conciliatory tone. i can't say that because it didn't sound like that to me. it don't sound like it. apparently he said a conciliatory tone for the two years ahead. yesterday speaker boehner was more direct, warning against executive action on immigration. and even promising to try to repeal obamacare. >> fining common grounds can be
hard work but even harder if the president isn't willing to work with us. yesterday we heard him say that he may double down on his go it alone approach. i told the president before, he needs to put politics aside and rebuild trust. the president continues to act on his own he's going to poison the oil. when you play with matches you take the risk of burning yourself. he's going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path. >> not trying to be snarky, honestly. what is different than two years ago, one year ago, three years ago, four years ago. what sounded different there. i don't get it. repealing obamacare. >> again, you're talking about somebody that's giving their opening arguments but ironically these people are speaking to themselves and not the american people. in this cause it's good. it's barack obama telling his base we got drubbed, i'm not going to panic, we'll try to
meet republicans halfway. you had mitch mcconnell as a lot of people said yesterday john heileman, mitch mcconnell speech that wasn't to the president. that wasn't to the american people. that was to ted cruz. then you had john boehner, his speech was to all of his hard core conservatives and telling them don't worry everybody is talking about peace breaking out. we're not going to forget what we stand for because we had a massive victory the other night. everybody is talking -- at the end of the day you got three players who have everything telling them they need to make a deal ahead of 2016. >> yeah. i totally agree with that. the interesting thing -- two interesting things. one is if you listen to talk radio and some of the right-wing, the far right quadrants of the media echo chamber in the last few days they have been howling, not triumphant in victory but
howling at their leaders, howling at mitch mcconnell and john boehner telling them not to capitulate. john boehner is talking to his caucus and those parts of the republican base and part of the republican media sphere and saying i'm not going to capitulate. what was most interesting yesterday john boehner and mitch mcconnell are so much on the same page. so much message discipline between the two of them. they are working very much in tandem. in the long run that portends well that something will get done, legislation occurring. >> the final split in the senate has not decided as votes are still being counted in alaska. democrats are pulling removing tv buy ads in louisiana where mary landrieu continues her runoff against bill cassidy. for democrats there's obvious frustration. nancy pelosi will likely remain minority leader there are calls
for a broader coalition and new blood. in her review yesterday, pelosi called it a per bill year but argued depressed turn out not the message was at the root of the problem. on the republican side top operatives mocked democratic turn out operations and its ground game. the senate's republican campaign committee suggested democrats shouldn't have sidelined president obama as much as they did because he could have helped turn out the base in key battleground states. does that make any sense? republicans didn't win, the democrats lost this election. >> you know, you can make the argument that if some democrats had made a more forceful effort to run on the positive things that have come out of the last six years, on the record of some of the health care reform, the fact we didn't go over the financial cliff on the unemployment numbers coming down, the energy boom. steve knows there are plenty of numbers you can point to to show
america is moving in the right direction. by running so far from president obama's record, that they skittered away from the positive thing. could that have helped them. president obama could have made the case himself more forcefully in some areas. >> steve rattner, i want to ask you as a businessman that spends your days making deals and you spent decades making deals and been successful in most of them, what's your take on the opening statements of all of these players? are they just beginning their negotiations? is this just part of sort of a tans that ends up with deal making down the road? what's your gut? >> i think your calculus is right. i think all sides should want to make a deal. the republicans should want to go into 2016 showing they've done something so they have some credibility for the next presidential election.
hard to imagine president obama doesn't want to leave without getting something done so he doesn't go down as a completely failed second term president. but i think both the technical and philosophical obstacles are great. if you take immigration the house pass ad bill with 68 votes on immigration the last time. the house decline to consider it in large part over this question about path to citizenship. i don't know how this gets easy they are time around. if the two houses get together and pass a bill without a path to citizenship, there's a high probability the president will veto it. you take immigration as a microcosm of the kinds of issues they are facing it looks tough. you face the fact as in the senate you need 60 votes to pass most things. they can do stuff through reconciliation if it's a money matter with only 51 votes. but they face the president and his veto pen. i don't think the mere change in these two bodies is going to create deals.
the only thing that will create deals is if the two sides realize they have a vested interest compromising by a much more significant degree than they've compromised before. i've done a lot of deals. some get done, some don't. it depends on the goodwill and the self-interest of the parties. >> roland, a lot of people asking about the president's press conference, the fact that he may not have seem to get it. i hear nancy pelosi saying yesterday our biggest problem wasn't our message it was our turnout. >> wrong. >> they left the guy that masterminded the greatest turnout of democratic voters in 2008 and 2012 on the sidelines. the president has got to be sitting there going you got to be kidding myself my fellow democrats. maybe that's why he wasn't so upset the other day in his press conference because democrats said they didn't want him around. >> democrats and also he failed
there. look here's the real deal. i remember when atlas fought holyfield. do you want to fight? they did. i interviewed the first lady she was talking about the economy and jobs coming back. remember when he came into the office losing 500,000 jobs a month. ivy sue allized that chris terrify commercial saying detroit is back. ivy sue allized black and white video of losing jobs, homes being foreclosed on and then color video of jobs coming back, gas production up and i'm saying wait a minute why did i not see that commercial. why did i not see that. why didn't you create the narrative. the president has to own up to the fact that he created this competing infrastructure, organizing for america and the democrat national committee. the democrats problem is they don't have a 50 state strategy. they have no infrastructure in a lot of those states for 2012 and they didn't create it in the
last two years. this is a party who had no clue when it came to message and didn't fight. the president you should be going to those poor health care states and talking to those largely white voters and saying you know what? i passed the affordable health care act for you because the health care in mississippi and alabama and tennessee and arkansas is horrible. so people you keep supporting they say they are against me on this. when this deal is for you. i said to senior white house officials and to the president i don't understand why he's unwilling to throw the punches. guess what mr. president you got two years left. you want a legacy? fight. >> so, first of all, i think the president and his wife could have had an impact there. joe, i guess this will sound incredibly naive. you call it opening arguments. i don't understand why mitch mcconnell and john boehner couldn't wipe the slate clean. i don't know why the base needs to hear what they heard yesterday in terms of playing
with matches you'll get burned, we're going to repeal obamacare. it's been a rough ride. we're in power now. and, you know, quite frankly we want to make it work. there are some things we want to get done, there are some things the president wants to get done. we commit to working together with the president we're going to reach out and going to try to make this work and get washington working again. why couldn't that have been the opening argument? i don't understand why there has to be this jerk tone. they all sound like jerks. am i wrong? >> yeah. you are. >> why? >> it hurts me to say that. first of all amen to everything roland said. the message is very simple. unemployment is down below 6%. gas prices are down to the lowest level in years. health care insurance or health care costing us less than it has in half a century. a lot of great things to say. to your point, there are a lot of times, mika, where you would go into court and you'll hear
the prosecutor say in front of the jury, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defendant is a murderer. behind-the-scenes five minutes before he said okay i'll tell you what my evidence is kind of sketchy. i'll give him five years probation. that's the way it works. >> it hasn't worked. >> mika, let me finish. in this case you have the president of the united states saying hey you know what? i don't care whether the republicans like it or not i will with a stroke of the pen ignore them and legalize the status of millions of illegal immigrants. you got john boehner talking about don't play with matches, you got mitch mcconnell talking about waving the bloody shirt. i think with the president and the speaker especially they are playing to their base. you're being unfair to mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell did give us a tone and i think john heileman you may agree with me we saw a tone in michigan mcconnell we haven't seen in quite some time.
these are opening arguments. people said to me, john, washington is a hard place to figure. no it's not. look around. i said everybody in this house chamber has one thing they really want. you know what their leverage is, you know what they are driven by. that's what you work. it was so easy to figure out. it's the same thing here. these three guys they all want something completely different. mitch mcconnell knox he has an uphill battle. in 2016 he'll be fighting in blue states. barack obama, he's got two years until he's giving speeches and making lots of money. but right now he's fighting for a legacy. john boehner, john boehner wants to be seen as more than a guy that can corral the most extreme people in his chamber. they all know, republicans all know they have to do something
on immigration to make sure that they get at least 35, 38, 40% among hispanic voters in 2016 or else they lose the white house again. and they can't put up with eight years of hillary clinton. am i too optimistic here? i think i'm not being optimistic, i think i'm being cynical, john. >> i agree with most of what you just said not exactly all of it. i think in the case of mitch mcconnell he has a relatively manageable caucus so he can afford to say things like poke ted cruz and say we're not going shut down the government or 0 go for a full repeal of obamacare. he's got to put ted cruz in his place. john boehner has a less manageable caucus and he needs to hold a harder line and show a larger number of his more unruly members he is not going to be a
push over. i get where mika is coming from. you got to listen to rush limbaugh for just one day right now. the last three days rush limbaugh is saying you were not elected to make deals with obama, you were elected to stop obama. that's still a big -- the question is whether somebody like boehner, i think joe is right boehner is trying to deal with a very fractured caucus. the immigration thing. you said all republicans know we must pass immigration reform in order to win the presidential election in 2016. all the established republicans know we need to pass immigration with a path of citizenship. i don't think all republicans know that. there's stale large chunk. this is why the immigration thing may be the hardest of all these deals to get done. if it was up to john boehner, mitch mcconnell and president obama that's not the case. it's not the case for the past six years and won't be the case
for the next two years. >> hundred members of the house who don't want to do immigration reform bill but the tone that john boehner and mitch mcconnell have been using on immigration, if i was sitting in the white house they goaded us further into doing it. how could he not do it now? >> you have a basic conflict between the fact that logic tells you they should do immigration. then you have ideology and specifics. when the ideology and specifics collide, i would not be overly optimistic about immigration getting done. >> guys, the votes are there for immigration. the votes are there. i have talked to republicans. the problem is the republicans do not want to bring a bill up unless they have all the votes in their caucus. the votes are actually there. the pressure should be on boehner to say bring the bill up and put it up for a vote is there. >> roland is exactly right. the votes are there.
john boehner is more secure than he's ever been. so if he has 50, 75 republicans saying we're going to raise hell and you'll pay for it, john boehner is in a position to say go for it cowboy. let's see if you can take me out. john boehner can go before his caucus today and say, you know what? you guys need to follow me since i have been speaker of the house, we have built our majority and we have the biggest republican majority since 1929. here's the question that you people need to listen to. and answer it for me. here's a question you need to answer. do you want to be a house that sends bills to harry reid in two years? to have them vetoed by hillary clinton in two years or do you actually want to get something done. if you don't want to get something done, you scream and yell and maybe you can have your own talk show in two years, i don't know, i don't give a damn,
i'm going to get stuff done and you can follow me. if you don't like it sit on the back row. listen, i personally on immigration, i only want to go as far as legalization. myself personally. i'm not one of these people who say oh, we have to look at the last election results and be scared to death we'll lose every hispanic vote. i'm not saying they should capitulate. they have every reason to work with the president and meet in the middle. i keep hearing rush limbaugh, rush limbaugh. rush limbaugh feels that's his job. great. let him speak to the people. john boehner is sitting in a stronger position today than he's ever sat in. mitch mcconnell, for good reason, is not even thinking about what happened this past tuesday. he's worried about two years from now and what's going to happen on the tuesday in 2016. it's in their best interests.
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♪ live look at new york city, what a beautiful friday morning. can you believe it is filly friday, thomas. >> i can and it would be better if we got paid. >> i thought yesterday was friday all day. the "wall street journal," nbc news has confirmed a report that president obama sent a secret letter to iran's supreme leader about the threat from isis. a senior white house official said the president told ayatollah that countries have a shared interest in fighting the militants. president obama said any partnership would be tied to iran reaching a deal on its nuclear program by november 24th deadline. it is at least the fourth time president obama has written iran's supreme leader since taking office. middle east allies like israel and saudi arabia reportedly kept in the dark. it comes as republican senator john mccain accuses the white house of not conducting more air strikes against isis because of
its talks with iran. >> somehow we're playing footsie with the iranians and hope they will somehow have an effect on isis. the sponsors of the 5,000 hezbollah that came into syria and changed the balance of power when the free syrian army was succeeding a few years ago. this is not a strategy. this is sort of an ad hoc reactionary failure. >> joe, first of all, what do you make of the letter? >> well, first of all, and our good friend carol lee helped report on this story along with jay solomon. when the "wall street journal" story hit a lot of sunni leaders, our allies across the middle east were enraged. absolutely enraged. they do not understand the white house's policy in the middle east. and they think their approach on taking care of isis by as john
mccain said quote playing footsie with iran which is really the language of our sunni allies this morning is not a good one. so, a lot of people upset across the middle east at the president trying to make an alliance with iran when they see iran as an enemy of the middle east. >> timeline too to point out, november 24th, let's see if anything happens with them reaching a deal on the nuclear program. we'll see as the calendar ticks down. the markets will be opening for a solid jobs report today on the heels of another banner day on wall street. major u.s. stock indices had record highs for the second straight session on thursday. the dow climbing more than 17,500 points hitting it's 21st record close this year with the s&p reaching new heights. economists expecting october jobs report to show an increase of about 230,000 new jobs. we'll have that report for everybody later this morning. >> interesting. total disconnect.
okay. the "new york post" espn's bill simmon who was suspended in september about his profanity tirade against bill goodell is trashing a co-worker. earlier simmons made comments about lebron james slow start to the nba season comments that the could host of espn mike on make aired on his show believed simmons to be out of context. simmons sent out this tweet among others. what mike and mike did today was absolute garbage. i would say i lost respect for that show but i never had it. he said he has since spoken to simmons and that all is good. >> hats going on here with bill simmons. >> looks like washington. >> bill is a little on edge. a little unruly. >> according to mike all is good. >> mike is a cool guy. >> we get this from the "los angeles times."
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♪ okay joining us now for the must read opinion pages senior national correspondent for bloomberg "business week" josh green who writes in the latest issue that both parties will find obama isn't the problem. really? interesting. let me read what you say here, josh. you continue in part by saying by delivering republicans control of congress voters have been ensured the next two years will be even less productive than the last two years. is that even possible, josh? >> i think it might be. >> with congress's approval rating in the teens and partisan acrimony sure to intensify, washington's real significance in 2015 will not be symbolic, not legislative it's a political cher no bill will shape both
party's fortunes. next year's biggest battles may be those fought within two parties rather than between them. i'll let joe take this. joe, i say you disagree with this concept. >> yeah, josh. obviously this is the opposite of what happened when bill clinton was president when republicans came in and they had to pitch battles together. republicans and democrats passed welfare reform, they balanced the budget, balanced it the first time in a generation, they passed tax reform, regulatory reform. did a lot of big things. why do you think the opposite will happen here. >> i don't think a whole lot will happen. we may get trade agreements which obama has signaled he's open to. harry reid wasn't. harry reid is gone. there's the medical device tax and medicare tax that might have some bipartisan movement. something on keystone. all the big issues are more divided even more so. 48 hours later we already got
both sides clashing over immigration reform. you got to raise the debt ceiling in a few months. it doesn't look promising for big things getting done. >> roland i seem to be the only polly anna on the panel today. do you think things will get done or are you skeptical as well with everybody else. >> i'm not skeptical. i think things will get done because both of these parties, both of these -- all these leaders are in a conundrum. look at the polling data, voters are angry, voters are upset. if you're the democrats and republicans you can't afford another two years of doing nothing. i think what the president should do in his state of the union address stand before congress and say enough kicking these big items down the line. it's time to stop. they told us they want us to work, now let's get to work. so the challenge should be there. he should stop threatening with executive order when it comes to
immigration. he should simply say get to work, get to work or you know what's going to happen. enough with the threats. he has to challenge them. they must challenge him. the voters also went to the polls have to get off their butts and say i voted but i'll hold you accountable. we'll go to your meetings, go to your offices, we're going to push you to get off your butt because we're paying you to work and you're not working. >> josh? >> the problem is the two parties don't agree. they won't be able to get together. >> have you heard -- has anyone talked to republicans behind the scene, you know, away from their opening arguments as joe put them and hear that they do want -- i mean -- >> you hear that there are small areas of agreement. you also hear that the angry people that got them elected want them to send a message to obama. they want them to repeal obamacare and unwind a lot of things that democrats have accomplished which will poison the well. >> hold on, hold on, hold on.
why is it every time republicans win the majority it's because angry people voted for them. >> they were angry in 2006 and 2008. anger is what drives the american election. >> i agree with the concept democrats lost this, republicans didn't win. >> joe, here's the deal. how do voters pass minimum wage increases in states but then also elected republicans as well. voters are angry. democrats are angry. anthony brown they assumed he was going to be governor in maryland. he got blown away by larry hogan. this is a deep blue state. illinois, pat quinn deep blue state. what has to happen is voters understand that election day was the end of one process the beginning of another. we have to challenge these leaders to say enough with your games, enough with all the talk, we need to get to work. we're suffering while you're getting your check and health
care. >> mika, what roland just said is, you know, 2006 was a repudiation of bush. 2010 was ideological election that some people are saying 2014 is. 2014 really was americans going out saying get things done. republicans understand this. and the so-called hot heads in the house or in the senate or wherever they are, they understand they won in 2010, they didn't get things done over the next two years, they got voted out. i mean they don't have to go back to what happened to me in 1994 and 1996. they can see what happened in 2010. all the incentives are for both of these parties to get things done. i think they will. >> i want you to be right. i want you to be right. >> the american voters want you to be right. the question is whether it comes to the tricky question of tax
reform they can get over ideological hurdles. when you ask republicans okay what is it you will compromise on. >> nothing. they will get burned. >> they name keystone but they don't talk about immigration or tax reform. >> i'll tell you what i would do, mika, if i were the president of the united states i would make the republicans put up are a shut up. i'm not running for re-election again. you guys talked about saving medicare, saving medicare, saving social security. let's do it. and go for the big deal. make history. bend history with entitlement reform. call the republicans bluff. throw it on the table and just sit there and smile because you're not running for re-election in 2016, you're giving lots of speeches and making lots of money and the president of the united states could do something that could save this country over the next 20 to 30 years on debt and the democrats can all vote no and it's all on the republicans lap. your going to be responsible? are you going to run? >> that's right.
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>> i'm going to host "baggage." >> you wouldn't host my other show. no. because you won't have a career. >> in our 24th year. we're starting to have the children of our original guests. >> i don't like it. >> which is wrong. these people weren't supposed to procreate. >> your body guard got his own show. >> let's talk politics. you have a lot of different facets to your personality. what do you make of the results here of these elections? >> nothing that hasn't been said a million times before. however, i believe that -- first of all, when you look back it certainly is predictable, was predictable what happened. you know the amount -- >> but why? >> there's a structural reason. in off year elections fewer
people vote. and they tend to be statewide elections, more localized elections, and the congressional lines have been drawn so by republican conservative state legislatures. when everybody votes democrat to win, when fewer people vote republicans win. that historically has between case. good news is despite the set backs that those of us are on the left side of the political continuum, we had set backs over time liberals always win. over time liberal win. if you look at america in the last 75, 100 years every major issue that we're proud that's mainstream, we talk about, everyone in the beginning conservatives fought it and ultimately liberals won. whether you talk about social security, medicare, the civil rights movement, women's reits movement, environmental movement, gay rights everything in the beginning. liberals are the crazy lefty long hair pinkos but it's
mainstream america and it's embarrassed to run against. >> when we look at what this election means and slice it and dice it. 29 state legislatures are now run with majority republican control. so as you future cast them and look down the line and ohio is a great indicator because we had the incumbent john houston beating turner when we were in ohio, she's a dynamic person but houston was able to pull it out. he raised three times the money she did and ohio being an important bellwether state. >> when a third of the voters vote conservatives will win. we'll continue to have a republican congress. the president in national elections five of the last six more americans voted for the democrat than republican and that will be the case two years from now. more americans -- >> why do democrats not show up in the mid-terms. this is the republicans trying
to gerry mander districts. >> they don't show up. >> we have gone through -- this is a perfect example. we have gone through a year of virtually every ten minutes a commercial saying on the air saying how horrible barack obama is. well a lot of people don't get that involved in politics. if you're inundated and democrats didn't come back and say we love the president -- >> let's go to joe. >> but, jerry, i say this with all due respect, i mean you kind of sound like republicans after they get walloped by democrats, they have a thousand different excuses. i think in this case, those let's talk about a couple of things. i want your insights here. it's not just washington. i mean in north carolina you had thom tillis, $30 million ads against him and he still won. republicans are controlling state legislatures.
i'm a guy who six years ago was ca castigating my party being trapped in the deep south. they are successful. isn't it time the democrats look inward to make sure this doesn't happen again 2016 and not blame koch brothers or negative ads or people not going out to vote. it sounds what republicans did. >> that's a fair point but i blame the democrats for running away from barack obama. see, i would argue that -- as i said before. if everybody votes, if even those that normally have been disenfranchised, if they vote in presidential elections we win. we lose the other elections because those disenfranchised, they haven't seen enough results to vote. >> they know in off year elections they have to get more minorities to get out and vote. how stupid was it of the democratic party to run away from the man that had historic
turn outs in '08 and '12. >> it was totally stupid. i agree with you on that. the democrats i think it's unfathomable they would run away from barack obama when frankly everything we wanted in the last six years has really come about. whether it's the -- >> guys. >> health insurance, saving the auto industry, the stimulus, all these items that we wanted we're in better shape now. >> jerry, wait a minute. black people turned out. okay. latinos had a very small drop off. democrats problem? they didn't get white people. to say target minorities that's what happened. young folks that number also dropped off. the democrats knew after 2010 you were going to have a problem in 2014 so why did they have a four year strategy of turning people out in the mid-terms? >> very hard. you make a fair point. i should not have said it's a
minority. just minorities. but it is people that don't believe that the political system makes a difference to them. now on presidential years for some reason, people feel it's their patriotic duty. you got to go and vote for president. more like a rock star running. so we get people out in presidential elections. the democrats failed because and they weren't behind barack obama. they ran away from him. kentucky is a perfect example of how she ran way from barack obama and she got nailed for it. >> yep. jerry springer thank you so much. we ran out of time. roland martin thank you as well. good luck with "baggage." >> i look forward to you hosting it. >> everyone has the same baggage. >> yes. >> katy wants to throw a chair at you. i don't get it. coming up we have the mega stars of the highly-anticipated christopher nolan film "interstellar." we caught up with matthew
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horoscopes. mine says tend to curb sarcasm to use as a defense mechanism. be more open. yours say you may be tired of having the same old conversation with a partner. know this too will pass. [ laughter ] having said that i think you're wrong. i'm not being sarcastic. let's start with the news a bring chuck into the conversation and maybe he can mediate. president obama set to meet today with congressional leaders first time since democrats lost control of the senate in the mid-term athletics. on wednesday presumptive majority leader mitch mcconnell set his agenda for two years ahead. yesterday bone was more direct warning against executive action on immigration and even promising to try to repeal obamacare. >> finding common grounds can be hard work but it will be even harder if the president isn't willing to work with us. yesterday we heard him say that he may double down on his go it
alone approach. i've told the president before. he needs to put politics aside and rebuild trust. the president continues to act on his own he's going to poison the well. when you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself. and he's going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path. >> i mean, i know you say it's opening arguments but i'm curious, joe, why does the base need to hear it this way? why can't they hear we're going to work together, we'll get things done. i month the president -- tell me what i'm missing here. >> for the same reason why the democratic base needed to hear barack obama go out wednesday morning, not panicked, not capitulating to republicans, not coming out saying oh, i'll meet you halfway. i thought the president played it perfectly. stop looking so shocked and stunned. okay. this is politics 101. if the president had gone out
and panicked and actually said oh, boy i got thumped and things are so terrible -- no he came out and played his strongest card. i'm still going to do executive action. you guys want to do something that's great. i'll work with you or against you. i thought strategically, chuck, that was pitch perfect. i know a lot of people were shocked. i had people say i can believe you aren't angry at the president's response. strategically it was pitch perfect. i thought mitch mcconnell in the senate, the senate being what it is he wants to it be mike mansfield's senate was "pitch perfect." john boehner has a conservative house. they scored massive wins the biggest majority since 1929. i thought he also was playing to his base but, chuck, you know this better than anybody. with these three guys, at least these two republicans, you have two republicans that were raised in a washington where you made
deals. am i being overly optimistic? >> well, look, perhaps. but let's remember they both have two nuclear weapons. the congressional republicans, they don't know how to -- i think they don't know how to operate theirs yet but theirs is on health care. they can poison the well very quickly if they decide to go on a series of trying to pass legislation that repeals either parts or some or parts or all of health care. the president has his own nuclear weapon and that's executive action on immigration. right. and the question is, do they table this for six months, the two sides, see what they can get done, or do things get bad quickly and they both feel the need that they have to do it early and if they do it early i think it means you won't see a lot of other stuff done. listen to the president's words very carefully on wednesday. i thought he was very, very -- he really narrowly defined what
he plans on doing with immigration. i don't know if it's going to go as far as people think it is. >> and, steve rattner, he also said which i thought was pretty brilliant the president said hey listen here's the deal. any executive order i pass on immigration you guys can overturn with legislation. we'll just pass legislation. >> right. >> sure. but i agree with chuck. i think this is going to be a process and i think everybody will bring their, both their need for a deal and baggage to the table and i think it's very hard to know exactly how this will come out. >> the only thing john heileman i guess i'm saying i'm not shocked and stunned, in fact i'm bored with this approach because i have seen it now for six years and this approach of these, you know, two nuclear weapons being held up to each other faces hasn't worked in the past. >> well it's a new day, mika. we'll see. >> i'm not seeing it.
do you. >> we'll see if we see nuclear weapons deployed. i have a question for chuck and joe you can answer this question too. i noted the other day that david axelrod, formerly the senior adviser to the president sent out a tweet a couple of days ago which he suggested president obama take the offer to not do executive action on immigration, the one he's promised to take if republicans and specifically john boehner would give him and up or down vote on immigration in the house. i'm curious, read the tea leaves on that tweet. what do you think david was trying to do and number two, would that be an effective potential tactic? >> i doubt it would be an effective tactic because i think the politics of immigration has changed inside the republican conference. when you think the border crisis with the undocumented children changed the landscape -- if you think about how every republican changed, frankly, the way they
talked about immigration from then on out during the campaign trail. so, you know, the republicans that got elected they spent a lot of time basically promising that they would not support a senate bill that looked, an immigration bill that looked like a senate compromise. i just think that's not going to happen. i want seems like a smart offer for the white house to make. the question is whether it would be taken seriously. look, speaker boehner promised he was going to do some action on immigration and he didn't. he was going to do something. they never brought up any bill. that's something also that i think the white house could push on. >> katy, real quick. >> it's very hard to see over the course of the last 48 hours, 36 hours since we had the elections any indication from the republicans or democrats that there's a substantive area on either side that they are willing to compromise. from the republican side or from the white house side this is what we'll give on immigration
reform. if we don't get that you'll end up with an executive order. >> let's move to the economy. steve you have a closer look why so many americans are discouraged by the economy and how that may have played a role in the results we got tuesday night. >> we talked earlier how the democrats had a positive economic message. didn't seem to resonate. 78% of americans who came out of the voting booth said the economy was fair or poor. they said economy is the most important issue. why are americans not happy about the economy. it's jobs and income. let me show you a chart. we talked a lot and later this morning we're going to get new unemployment numbers that will be pretty good. you can see the unemployment rate has come down very substantially under the president's approval rating. basically back to about where it was when he took office. but if you look at the unemployment situation a different way you'll find that -- you'll find that -- if you look at it in terms of
americans working back in 2008 but 80% of working age americans 25 to 54 were working and you can see how far it dropped and you can see it's only modestly recovered. so even though there had bean huge number of new jobs created a lot of americans who want to work are still not working. now if you look at incomes i think it's even more striking what's happened over the last six years. >> i love this chart. >> you love this chart. you should be depressed by it. >> i love the chart. >> if you go back to the beginning of 2009 for the average american, their wages after adjusted for inflation are down by 1%. remember we had much more income inequality. for most americans the decline is even bigger. if you work in the auto industry your wages are down 15%. we saved the jobs, we couldn't save the incomes. if you worked in manufacturing they are down 3.8%. only people that work in the information skills based industries like finance,
information, education, things like that where your incomes are up. so it's very hard to make a case for americans that the economy is great when your income is down. >> this is the quandry that democratic candidates have. >> if you take a graph and compare the president's approval rating with a share of the democratic vote that the senate candidates got in these battleground states you find about a 70% correlation, 70% of the vote share is explained by the relationship between the president's approval. in arkansas where the president's approval rating is down to 31%, you can see that mark pryor only got about 40% of the vote. if you go in the other direction and look at north carolina, colorado, georgia, where the president's approval rate cigarette 43% those candidates did reasonably well, kay hagan didn't quite make it but did reasonably well. roughly the candidate above that line, alaska, virginia, new hampshire, somewhat outperformed the candidates below the line
somewhat underperformed. one last thing about this, in a lot of these battleground states the income performance we talked about was substantially worse than the national average. in arkansas, incomes were down 2.3% relative to that roughly 1% i talked about. in alaska 2.4%. in iowa 2%. in colorado 3%. in north carolina incomes were down 7.4%. very hard to run against those kinds of numbers. >> that's amazing. >> 7% rise in financial services sector in terms of partnership raises. >> we got another guest. joe, take it. >> with us now from washington the chairman of the house intelligence committee republican congressman mike rogers of michigan. congressman great to talk to you. mr. chairman we can talk politics first. fascinating story on the front page of the "wall street journal." it sent shockwaves. written by carol lee. sent shockwaves across the middle east especially our soon chip allies that president obama
continues to secretly send letters to the ayatollah, talking about being allies against isis. what can you tell us about it? >> well, the white house certainly hasn't denied it that they've done this and i can tell you that it is causing real problems with our sunni arab league partners in the fight against isis. it's really concerning. we saw this happen originally under the negotiations, the nuclear negotiations where they had secret arrange merapis with secret negotiations. that had big blow back from our sunni led nation partners who were interested in pushing back on a nuclear iran. we would think you would learn the lesson from the first go around and now damaging it's bento our allies including israel. to have another round of it is quite concerning. >> steve rattner. >> so what would you advise the president at this point to be
doing vis-a-vis the problem of iran and its relationship to nuclear weapons, its relationship to isis and everything else that's going on in the middle east. >> originally what he wanted to do is ratchet up the sanctions. the president didn't support them -- finally signed off on it but he was opposed to sanctions. they were starting to bite the elite of iran. this is what was concern for all of us. this was a bipartisan concern and that's important from congress. we were finally starting to have impact on the people who were surrounding the leadership in iran that were starting to take a bite. when you relieve that pressure valve which happened, what we have seen is iran slowing down any real negotiation. matter of fact the last extension came only because the united states said we'll release billions of dollars to you to keep talking. we didn't really get anything for it. sometimes we forget the consequence of a nuclear iran. you know, sunni led countries
have said listen if iran a shi'ite country gets a nuclear weapon we're going to get a nuclear weapon. so by doing this wrong you proliferate a nuclear arms race in the middle east that should bring a bead of sweat to all our foreheads. that's troubling. that's why we're so concerned especially this second round of secret negotiations never a good idea. >> congressman you see all the intel on this and the speculation is while it's not coordinated at the senior levels clearly when it comes to the fight against isis there is some sort of coordination already taking place between the iranians and the american coalition. we've had examples of where iran jan forces are working on the ground in the same places that americans are bombing from the air. to the extent this letter reflect as reality. >> no. there's some sense of military coordination on militarying flights so airplanes don't
collide into each other. that even happens today with civilian aircraft between iran and other nations where they have adversarial relationships with. this is a whole new game. just because the enemy of your enemy wants to help you doesn't mean they are the north adversary. this is the case. iran is still engaged in activities in iraq in yemen that's trying to overthrow these particular governments. certainly causing them trouble. so you have to remember the folks who are seeing this, who are pushing back and trying to be helpful with isis are looking at the united states and scratching their heads saying wait a minute, we're getting overrun by these folks, they are up to malicious activity right here in our own neighborhoods and you want to sit down and negotiate with them. this is dangerous. i argue again you have to pick your friends in these types of fights and making it muddled at the expense of folks who hatch stupd and put arms in and money
and trainers and risked their own lives to fight back on a growing threat of isis doesn't seem like a very good plan. >> let's bring chuck todd host of "meet the press" in. chuck? >> mr. chairman what about this issue, in this case, against isis iran also wants to destroy isis too. so, this whole thing is sort of -- there is some potential for real politic here, is it not? >> i think it's very dangerous, chuck, to do this. again, you have to understand when -- it's not like everyone will join hands and say we all like isis, let's join together. this is causing real strains with our arab league partners who have been good partners in this fight and are getting better. and, again, there was a long time where the administration had really had to try to repair the damage done to our relationships with our sunni led arab partners especially over the iranian deal. and this is exactly why they
send secret letters. because they don't really want anyone to know. the problem is you can't, in this world pretty hard to do that when you talk about these high level negotiations. by the way it's in iran's interest to leak these kinds of things because it helps iran. so you can't really put that back in the bottle. what it means is now our sunni led partners are saying wait a minute maybe we don't participate the way we said before by the way we'll spend time i know this we get phone calls about trying to put this thing back together. somehow the administration is completely missing that end of the equation and, again, that's very concerning to me. >> congressman rogers, thank you very much. good to have you on the show this morning. >> chuck todd what's coming up on "meet the press" this sunday. >> we got scott walker after his third win in four years. we know that after iowa, excuse me after wisconsin he's off to iowa and new hampshire. plus a couple of new members including one of the three democrats who knocked off a
republican incumbent, gwen graham, daughter of senator bob graham. your buddy howard schultz will be on. >> really. oh, my goodness. chuck todd thanks very much. we'll be watching that. still ahead on "morning joe" renowned world journalist will be here in a few minute. peter yarrow and paul of peter mother. and the drummer of the rock group ac/dc is charged with murder for hire. he might be off the hook. what happened to the case in just one day? you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. get to the terminal across town. are all the green lights you? no. it's called grid iq.
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>> no. >> all right. he gives us an inside look at the creative force behind the film's director christopher nolan. >> after reviving the batman franchise this time christopher nolan is setting his sites on another dimension. no longer to sustain humanity a team of explorers travel through a worm hole to colonize another galaxy and save the human race. we went to find out what it was like to work with nolan on what is the most ambitious film of our generation. how do you make a film so expansive, so ambitious, so small. how do you do that? >> one way cast great actors like matthew mcconaughey and ann hathaway. these guys that can keep the human element first and foremost can really bring the audience on
this journey. >> chris's reach is constantly exceeding his grasp in an unfairway, not in an illegal logical way. not in a way we don't have the capacity pull off. >> he doesn't give up performances and relationships in the film for special effects or explosions. he uses all practical sets so everything -- no green screen. >> potentially having the world right within our reach. >> could save us from extinction. we're coming back. >> it felt like a letter to his children this film. and that's what made it even more special to me. >> very cool customer. extraordinarily well organized. movie make cigarette a very relaxed enterprise with him. >> we always felt he's got the big stuff and never felt it came with a sense of performance. he's only one of those people who can do that. >> i got to have a personal experience as an actor. i have to go through and say at
the end of shooting, matthew mcconaughey, was that enough? if that answer is yes i'm much happier. i had that experience. as big as this film is i never felt any of us were overwhelmed or receded behind the size and scope. >> say good-bye to our solar system. to our galaxy. >> it's the best quality. it's the highest resolution. best color reproduction. just beautiful. reason i got into films. reason i want to keep making films. >> could you do this without your lovely wife. is she the power behind it. >> i don't know. could you? >> i wouldn't want to try. she's everything. >> mika i saw the film last night. matthew mcconaughey did a phenomenal job so christopher nolan. i recommend seeing it. >> were you a clothes talker.
>> yes, i am. no boundaries of personal space. >> what is matthew mcconaughey -- >> you taught me that. >> really? >> blushing ann hathaway. does matthew mcconaughey have good breath. >> yes. very good. minty. >> you're a close talker in a big way. you totally over corrected on that advice. thank you very much. good job. coming up after republican wins in 2010 and 2014 are democrats facing a lost generation of potential senators and congressmen. good god this is so sad. plus, the man who killed osama bin laden, did he or didn't he? who is he? the conflicting accounts from navy s.e.a.l.s on who killed the al qaeda leader and why the s.e.a.l.s are talking about it. an unlikely story of war. filmmaker sebastian junger joins us with his new project ahead. we'll be right back.
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journalists. was also named on a special ops website ahead of a tv interview. here's cynthia mcfadden. >> i'm not telling any secrets, i'm not breaking any rules but we'll have a lot of fun. >> robert o'neill has been on the motivational speaking circuit. he identified himself in the "the washington post" as the man who killed osama bin laden. another team member matt bissonnette wrote a book in which he described it somewhat differently with three commandos firing shots that hit bin laden. he asked us not to show his face. >> two different people telling two different stories for two different reasons. >> last year the top commander wrote an open letter saying we don't abite willful or selfish disregard for our core values in return for public notoriety and financial gain. >> matt bissonnette is now suing his own attorney for bad legal advice. he faces prosecution and claims he's been forced to forfeit $4.5
million for not properly clearing his book with the department of defense before publication. he's now publishing a new book before we turn the page here back to politics -- >> why are they doing this? do this kind of operations and keep quiet about it rather than make money out of it. there was no electricity opinion house. no moon that night. how on earth anyone can say with any determination that that bullet fired from that gun was the one that actually finished bin laden. it's almost impossible. >> he seems quite sure about it. >> he's completely contra diktd by a separate account of it. >> okay. joining us now, we'll talk politics a lot to get back to here. joining us now from washington, senior congressional reporter at politico, very good to have you on board. so democrats doubling down according to politico on their attacks on the koch brothers. let's start there. none of these approaches have worked. have they?
i feel like both sides are back in their corners and we're back where we were to kind of an on-ramp of getting nothing done again. >> from the democratic side they -- they have a villain to run against and it being the koch brothers. that when their base, helps bring out money to their coffers. they think it had some effect in michigan and the michigan senate race where gary peters ran way with that race. i'm not so sure that was the case in michigan. there was a pretty weak republican candidate on the ticket which helped gary peters a lot. the challenge for democrats is what their message is going forward. certainly they can attack the koch brothers and maybe that will work in bringing out those donors to fill up their campaign coffers but what is their overarching message to get back to the senate majority and take back the white house, running against the koch brothers is not enough. >> katy? >> let's talk about this lunch
that's happening with congressional leaders at the white house today. we've been having a debate all morning which way this will go. more construction between the two parties or obstruction. will we get any sense coming out of that lunch where joe said opening positions or whether a deal can to be done? >> i don't think we'll get much of an idea. there's 15 members who are involved in that lunch. typically in a room like you you won't get much other than your typical talking points. maybe a clearer sense what they can get done in the lame duck session in congress. that will have a huge impact on the opening months of the new republican congress. that may be a clearer sense there. but i'm not sure we'll get any real clarity in how the two sides can work together over the next two years. the real trick is when the republican agenda is rolled out and how much input they seek from the white house and whether they seek a more confrontational tone rather than more
conciliatory tone. i'll bet they will take a more confrontational tone and pin the white house back against the wall. >> steve rattner. >> it sounds in terms of the debate we've been having this morning whether we'll have more gridlock and obstructionism other than getting something done you're betting 51-49 on the side of gridlock. >> i would bet higher than that. if you look at what mcconnell said out of the press conference on wednesday he said we talked about trade and we talked about doing something on tax reform. but as you guys know doing something on tax reform, for instance that's a v-very complicated under take. two sides are fundamentally divided on whether or not you raise revenue as part of the tax reform deal and all the other interests that are in the tax code. that's such a difficult thing to do. what about trade. it's possible. something they can get done own trade. enough support in the senate to get that out. other than that what are the other big ticket items they can
get done? i'm not sure a whole lot other than getting appropriations bills done, getting the general functioning of the government back. we'll see if they can do that. >> a quick one. how much use do you expect to see on reconciliation on getting stuff through the senate with 51 votes. >> republicans will try that. they view that as an opportunity to do something on obamacare, not a full repeal but certain smaller things like medical device tax repeal or restoring that 40 hour work week definition. but that still is tricky because the republicans have a pretty diverse conference on the senate side. you have to you night susan collins a maine moderate with a texas conservative ted cruz to get that through. there's no slam dunk even though the republicans have that majority in the senate. >> thank you very much. before we close john heileman to joe's cynically hopeful point of view, i justnd if both sides have nothing to lose. everything to lose, actually by
continuing to get nothing done. the republicans could look like heroes if something happened in the next few years. wouldn't that tee them up for 2016. >> i agree with you. in the abstract there's a lot of incentive for republicans to govern and in terms of setting up -- again mcconnell and boehner want to win the presidency. they think the only way to bring about republican policy objectives is have both houses of congress and republican president and they recognize the best thing for a republican president to set up a presidential run to get some things done. again, they are not -- they are not -- they cannot do things by fiat in their caucuses. if they could life would be a lot easier. >> exactly. still ahead americans voted on tuesday with economy on their minds and in less than an hour we'll get the latest report from the labor department and steve it will be terrible, right? >> no. >> exactly. that's my point. okay. but first a journey across
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how it changes you, and about why you miss it. why it's so hard to come back from war and re-enter society. >> wow. oscar nominated director sebastian junger captured his 300 mile journey along into railroad lines from d.c. to new york city for his new documentary "the last patrol." sebastian joins us now. good to have you back. i want to get into what inspired this. did it start with you discovering this video of tim? >> tim and i my colleague in afghanistan -- we were going out of d.c. and looking out the window and say you can walk along the whole line. probably illegal. we decided to become vagrants walking along the rail line and sleeping under bridges.
tim was killed in libya. two were getting out of the army. a photo journalist who was holding tim's hand when he died in libya. and we did that trip instead over the course of a year. sleeping in the open, bathing in rivers and avoiding the police. >> was any part of this sort of directly, i guess, dealing with your feelings about his loss? you were supposed to go on that trip to libya. >> yeah. i was supposed to be with him. i had to pull the plug at the last minute. and he was killed. it affected me a lot. to some degree, yes. i wanted to get to know the country again. these two soldiers were coming home after the war. >> when you were walking there you talked about war with two soldiers who had served with you in iraq when you were there. how did the conversation evolve
over the course of the journey? >> well, we talked a lot about why war is so hard to give up. why it's hard to unplug from it and come home. and actually, none of us were going to go back to war again. there's a failure rate of 50%. dave got out of the army and quickly got bored and signed back up and went back to afghanistan. and emo went back to ukraine. i'm done. it was interesting to watch us four men struggling giving up that most people think is so hard to give up. >> it seems like a dichotomy. explain what you have sensed or what you think is the biggest part of the interruption that happens to a person's life once they go to war, cover war and why there is this almost addictive need to want to engaging it again. >> war, you're very closely plugged into other people.
right. your unite you're with. a soldier. this country very alienated, fragmented to society, very troubled society. they just feel out of place. >> so you're done? >> i'm done with war reporting. not done with walking. we're still out there. we're heading for the pacific. going across the country along the rail lines. >> my husband was a war correspondent for years. he described it life was simple in war zones. it's about staying alive. you come back and life is much more complicated and messy. >> that's exactly what it is. as a result it's pretty relaxing. >> i noticed too, daisy had a gopher on her back. >> yes. >> is she a mutt. >> mixed breed. >> hbo documentary film "the last patrol" will debut on november 10th on hbo.
sebastian junger, thank you so much. always great to have you on the show. still ahead finding god in the digital era. americans are more plugged in than ever before but is that coming at the cost of our faith? that's a good question. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. new york state is jump-starting business with startup-ny. an unprecedented program that partners businesses with universities across the state. for better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. and you pay no taxes for ten years. from biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo... startup-ny has new businesses popping up across the state. see how startup-ny can help your business grow at startup.ny.gov
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♪ oh, dear lord, these things we pray. to love thee more dearly. to see thee more clearly. to follow thee more nearly. day by day by day. amen. >> praying does not come naturally to everybody. but that doesn't mean that you can't learn how to pray. here with us now, the pastor timothy keller. out with a new book, prayer, experiencing all with intimacy with god. i love this topic. i think we are losing ourselves
in technology and the fast moving pace of life. and vitt real out there, especially in the worlds that we travel in, in politics. but tell us first of all how people can kind of cut through all the distractions and just find that time and space and mind-set to pray. >> you have to. especially in a place like new york. i feel, we feel, valuable when we're productive. we feel good about ourselves when we're productive. right away, if you spend time in prayer, when you're praying, you're not doing anything, and everybody else that's supposed to happen to you during the tate or you're supposed to get done is calling to you and if you have the discipline to say, i'm going to pray today, i'm going to pray regularly, that right away confronts that need to be productive. you have to find your identity in something else. if you're finding it in god or god' love or something like that, that actually immediately
makes i think your identity and your whole life more stable. >> i think it's a challenge for the younger generation especially. but not -- i don't count us out of this, because in this day and age, in our society, kids are never alone. they're always, just always going. and i think it requires not just that you're not productive, but that you're alone with yourself and god. >> some of the socks actually are about that. some of the most famous songs. like psalm 103 says bless the lord, oh, my soul. who is he talking to? he's not talking to god. he's talking to himself. that's called self-commuting. i don't think we know how to to that because we'rer in alone. >> okay, why's that important then? >> well, you need to know yourself. as in your life, you're going to find yourself doing things that
surprise you unless you have been alone with yourself to know yourself. i actually as a christian minister think since there is a god, you don't know yourself unless you know yourself in relationship to god. so the solitude of prayer and the practice of prayer is crucial i think for living life. even though at the moment it feels like you're not being very productive. >> people tend to turn to prayer when things go wrong in their lives. when everything's going smoothly, they forget to take the time to do it. how much harder is it to start praying, to have that relationship if you haven't been doing it regularly. you mentioned meditation in the book. is it like that practice? >> your right in saying that people normally pray when they feel insufficient. >> right. >> then it's a response. when you're feeling self-such fish an en, you don't pray. but one of the times you feel insufficient and you start to pray and you get help, you need to make some resolution. even when i know that even
though i'm actually -- life is going pretty well, i still need to collect myself. so when you go to prayer, because you're actually just in trouble, at that time, make some resolution to pray anyway. and i do think meditation in which you're doing that regularly is very, very good for you. you should do that even when you're -- actually, when you're down, prayer brings you up. when your head's getting too big, when you tend not to pray, you need to pray, because that gives you perspective on yourself. >> my godmother was petrified of flying. so the people that have created all of this in our world that comes through god that gives us all these distractions to be more productive, what do you say to those that feel like they've lost religion but they still feel spiritual and they do want to pray and they do want to have a connection with god?
>> you're opening a whole nother can of worms. i think inherited religion is going away. religion you're born into. because you're part of this nation or family you're automatically -- religious's part of your identity. chosen religion, religion that i chose, religion that i make a commitment to actually is on the increase. that's a reason why in some ways more -- old institutional religion is going away but newer forms of religion where people chose the religion and in many cases that's very traditional, but they've chosen it, that's actually growing. i think the reason why there's so much interest in prayer is because whether you're part of inherited religion or the new chosen religions, you still pray. there's almost universal almost in prayer. >> knowing yourself, relationship with yourself and god, being alone consistently, is it okay that you've made the case as to why it's productive?
>> in the long run. i just think in the short run, you need to be reconciled to feeling like i got stung today. in the long run, absolutely it maybes you more productive. >> the book is prayer. experiencing all and intimacy with god. you can reead an excerpt at our website mojoe.com. coming up on "morning joe," a new era of bipartisanship or the same old partisan bickering? we're going to try to find the silver lining. plus, they are adversaries on the world stage. now pen pals? the secret letter president obama sent to iran's supreme leader. we'll reveal what it was in that letter ahead on "morning joe." so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates.
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well, my feeling of despair is brought to me by historical context. it's why old people are sad. >> good morn, everybody. it's friday, november 7th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have washington anchor for bbc world news america catty kay. and former treasury economic analyst steve rattner. on capitol hill, the host and managing editor of tv one's daily morning show news one now, roland martin. i feel like everything in washington is different now and everything's going to be better. >> yeah. >> right? >> are you being sarcastic, mika? >> no, i'm so hopeful. >> i'm very hopeful too. well, i think everything's changing. i think the most important thing is we're finally going to have accountability. republicans on the hill don't get things done, they will pay
for it in two years. the electorate's taught them that over the past four years. the same thing with the president. the democrats don't do thing, they're going to get punished as well. people are getting so excited about barack obama. he came out and he didn't seem to get it and blah blah blah. and now it's oh, john boehner, he was so mean, he talked about when you play with matches, you're going to burn yourself. guess what, these are opening arguments. and as nicole said yesterday, barack obama was casting only to his base when he went out and talked. you have the same thing with john boehner who has more republicans right now working alongside of him than any speaker since 1929. he's playing to that base. i promise you. just like i said immigration reform would never, ever happen a year and a half ago. when everybody knows they have to pass immigration reform. i'm telling you now, we're going
to see immigration reform passed. we're going to see reform passed. how's that? >> i hope you're right. it just doesn't sound like it. you could be right. president obama is set to meet with a group of bipartisan congressional leaders. it's the first time since democrats lost control of the senate in the midterm elections. on wednesday, presumptive majority leader mitch mcconnell sent a conciliatory tone -- i can't read that because it didn't sound like it to me. i'm not sure -- >> the word conciliatory's hard, right? >> apparently, he set a conciliatory tone for the two years ahead. yesterday, speaker boehner was more direct. warning against executive action on immigration. and even promising to try to repeal obamacare. >> finding common grounds can be hard work. but it will be even harder if
the president isn't willing to work with us. yesterday, we heard him say that he may double down on his go it alone approach. listen, i've told the president before, he need, s to put polits aside and rebuild trust. the president continues to act on his own, he's going to poison the well. when you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself. he's going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path. >> not trying to be snarky, honestly. i just -- what is different than two years ago, one year ago, three years ago, four years ago? what sounded different there. i don't get it. >> again, you're talking about somebody that's giving their open arguments but ironically, these people are speaking to themselves and not the american people. in this case, it's good. it's barack obama telling his base, we got drubbed, i'm not going to panic here.
we'll try to meet republicans halfway. you had mitch mcconnell. a lot of people said yesterday, john heilman, mitch mcconnell's speech, that wasn't to the president. that wasn't to the american people. that was the ted cruz. and then you had john boehner, his speech was all -- all of his hard core conservatives. he was telling them, don't worry, everybody's talking about peace breaking out. we're not going to forget what we stand for because we had a massive victory the other night. everybody's talking to each other. at the end of the day, you have three players who have everything telling them they need to make a deal ahead of 2016. >> yeah, i totally agree with that. two interesting things about that, one, if you listen to talk radio and some of the right wing -- the far right quadrants of the echo chamber in the last couple of days, they've been howling, not triumphant in victory but howling at their own
leaders. telling them not to capitulate. i think joe, you're right, john boehner's talking to portions of his caucus and also trying to let them know, talking also to those parts of the republican base and that part of the republican media sphere and saying, you know, i'm not going to capitulate. interesting yesterday, the fact that john boehner and mitch mcconnell are on the same page. they i think are working very much in tandem. i think in the long run that portends well for the possibility at leetch, the possibility, not the guarantee of, some kind of things getting done, legislation actually occurring. >> the final split in the senate is not decided as votes are still being decided in alaska and still louisiana where landrieu is only beginning her runoff against republican congressman bill cassidy. for democrats, it's obvious frustration. while nancy pelosi will likely remain minority leader, there are calls for a broader
coalition. reportedly argued that depressed turnout, not the message, was at the root of the problem. on the republicanatives mocked turnout operations and its ground game. the senate's republican campaign committee also suggested democrats shouldn't have side lined president obama as much as they did, because he could have helped turn out the base in key battleground states. catty, does any of that make sense? there are some saying that democrats -- the republicans didn't win, the democrats lost this election. >> you know, you can make the argument if some democrats had made a more forceful effort to run on the positive things that have come out of the last six years, on the record of some of the health care reform, the fact we didn't go over the financial cliff, the energy boom. there's is -- steve knows, there is plenty of numbers you can point to, show america's moving in the right direction
economically. by not invoking that, by wanting to run so far from president obama's record, that they give it away for some of the positive things. president obama himself made the case more forcefully in some areas. >> i agree. joe. >> hey, steve rattner, i wanted to ask you as a businessman who spends your days making deals and you spent decades making deals and been successful in most of them. what's your take on the opening statements of all of these players? are they just beginning their negotiations? is this just part of -- a dance that ends up with dealmaking down the road? what's your gut? >> i think your calculus is right. i think all sides should want to make a deal. the republicans should want to go into 2016 showing they've done something so they have some credibility for the next president's election. it's hard to imagine president
obama doesn't want to leave without getting something done so he doesn't go down as a completely failed second term president. but i think that the -- both the technical and philosophical obstacles are pretty great. if you take simply immigration, the house passed a bill with i think 68 votes on immigration. the house declined to even consider it. i don't know how that really gets easier this time around. if the two houses get together and pass the bill without a path to citizenship, i think it's a relatively high prbability the president will veto it. you just take immigration as a microcosm of the kinds of issues they're facing, it looks kind of tough. in the senate, you need 60 votes to pass most things. they can do stuff through reconciliation if it's a money matter and only have 51 votes. then again, they're facing the president and his veto pen. so i think it's -- i don't think that the mere change in these two bodies is going to create deals. i think the only thing that's going to create deals is if the
two sides realize they have a deep investmented interest in both compromising by a much more significant degree than they've compromised before. they say i've done a lot of deals. some get done, some don't get done. depends on both the good will and the self-interest of the parties. >> a lot of people asking about the president's press conference. the fact that he may not have seemed to get it. i hear pelosi saying yesterday our biggest problem in our message, it was our turnout. >> wrong. >> they left the guy that masterminded the greatest turnout of democratic voters in 2008 and 2012 on the sidelines. the president's got to be sitting there going, you got to be kidding myself, my fellow democrats. maybe that's why he wasn't so upset the other day in his press conference because democrat also said they didn't want him around. >> democrats did that, but also -- he also failed there. look, here's the real deal. i remember when teddy atliss
when michael moore fought evanderfield. said, do you want this, do you want to fight? they didn't want to fight. i interviewed the first lady and she was talking about the economy and jobs coming back. remember when we came in the office losing 500,000 jobs a month? i visualize that chrysler detroit commercial saying detroit is back. i was sitting there visualizing black and white video of losing jobs and homes being foreclosed on and jobs shutting down and then color video of jobs coming back, energy, gas production being up. i'm say, wait a minute, why did i not see that commercial? why did i not see that? why didn't you -- >> that's a great question. >> the other thing is here, the president has to own up to the fact that he created this competing infrastructure. the democrats, they don't have a 50 state strategy. they have no infrastructure in a lot of those states for 2012 and it had been created in the last two years.
this is a party that had no clue when it came to message and they also didn't fight. the president, you should be going to those poor health care states and talking to those largely white voter, saying, you know, i passed the affordable care act for you because the health care in mississippi, alabama, tennessee, arkansas, is horrible. so the people you keep supporting, they say they're against me on this, when this deal is for you. and i've said it to senior white house officials and even to the president. i don't understand why he is unwilling to throw the punches. you got two years left. you want a legacy? fight. >> first of all, i think the president and his wife could have had an impact there. but joe, i guess this is going to sound incredibly naive. you call it opening arguments. i just don't understand why mitch mcconnell and john boehner couldn't wipe the slate clean. i don't know why the base needs to hear what they heard yesterday in terms of playing with matches, you're going to get burned or, you know, we're going to repeal obamacare and
that's what we're starting. what about, you know, it's been a rough ride, we're in power now -- hold on. quite frankly, we want to make it work. there's some things we want to get done. there's some things the president wants to get done. we commit to working together with the president. we're going to reach out. we're going to try and make this work and get washington working again. why couldn't that have been the open argument? i don't understand why that has to be the jerk tone. i'm serious. they just all sound like jokes. am i wrong? >> well because -- yeah, you are. >> why? >> it hurts me to say that. first of all, amen to everything rowan said. the message is very simple. hey, guess what, unemployment's down below 6%. gas prices are down to the lowest level in years. health care insurance. health care costing us less than it has in, you know, half a century. a lot of great things to say there. to your point, there are a lot of times, mika, where you will go into court and you will hear
the prosecutors say in front of the jury, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defendant's a murderer. and behind the scenes he's sail, okay, my evidence's kind of sketchy, i'll give him five years probation. that's the way it works. in this case, you have the president -- >> it hasn't worked. >> let me finisfinish, mika, ok. you have the president of the united states saying, i don't care whether the republicans like it or not. i'm going to with a stroke of a pen ignore them and i'm going to legalize the status of millions of illegal immigrants. you've got john boehner talking about don't play with matches. you've got mitch mcconnell talking about waving the bloody shirt. i think with the president and the speaker especially, they're playing to their base. i think you're being terribly unfair to mitch mcconnell. i think mcconnell did give a tone. you may agree with me, we saw a tone in mitch mcconnell we haven't seen in quite some time. these are ing arguments. people always said to me, john,
washington is such a hard place to figure. i said, no it's not. i
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live look at new york city. what a beautiful friday morning. can you believe it is finally friday, thomas? >> i can believe it. it would be better if we got paid. >> i thought it was yesterday, like friday all day. let's take a look at the morning paper papers. "the wall street journal." president obama sent a secret letter to iran's supreme letter about the threat from isis. the president told ayatollah khomeini that the countries have a shared interest in fighting the militants. president obama said any partnership would be tied to iran reaching a deal on its nuclear program by the november 24th deadline. it is at least the fourth time president obama has written i n iran's supreme leader since taking office. middle east allies like israel and saudi arabia were reportedly kept in the dark. it comes as republican senator john mccain accuses the white house of not conducting more air strikes against isis because of its talks with iran. >> somehow, we're playing fo
footsies with the iranians in hopes they will have an effect on isis. the sponsors of the 5,000 hezbollah that came in to syria and changed the balance of power when the free syrian army was succeeding a few years ago. this is not a strategy. this is sort of an ad hoc reactionary failure. >> joe, first of all, what do you make of the letter? >> first of all, our good friend carol lee was -- helped report on this story, along with jay solomon, "the wall street journal." when "the wall street journal" story hit yesterday, there were a lot of sunni leader, ally also across the middle east, that were enraged, absolutely enraged. they do not understand the white house's policy in the middle east. they think their approach on taking care of isis, as john mccain said, quote, playing footsie with iran.
really the language of a lot of our sunni allies this morning, is not a good one. so a lot of people upset about the middle east, about the president trying to make an alliance with iran, when they see iran as enemy of the middle east. >> just point out, november the 24th, to see if anything happens with them reaching a deal on the nuclear program. we'll see as the calendar ticks down. this other story from "usa today" where the markets are hoping for a solid jobs report. major u.s. stock indices had record highs. the dow climbing more than 17,500 points. with the s&p also reaching new heights. meanwhile, we have economists expecting the october jobs robert to sh report of an increase. we'll have that report for everybody later this morning. >> interesting. total disconnect. "the new york post."
bill simmons, who was suspended for his tirade about roger if e goodell, is now publicly trashing a co-worker. making comments about lebron james' slow start to the season. the co-host of espn's mike and mike in the morning later aired on his show. in a way simmons believed to be out of context. simmons then send out this tweet among others. what mike and mike did today was absolute garbage. i would say i lost respect for that show but i never had it. >> wow. >> says he has since spoken to simmons and that quote -- >> what's going on here? with bill simmens? >> looks like washington. >> bill's a little on edge right now. according to mike, all is good. all is good. >> what a cool guy. >> we move to this one. voters in bell layer. they headed to the polls in
style with luxuries including valet parking, complimentary food and a harpist to entertain them. the hotel on sunset boulevard, a designated polling location, treated citizens to style while performing their civic duty. servers offered up lamb chop, chinese chicken salad and high-end pastries. >> these are your people, mika, and they're all liberal democrats too. you should move there. >> driving around in their teslas there in california on the sunset strip. the california secretary of state's office says it's all legal as long as incentives don't carry along any expectations that people are going to cast their votes for a specific candidate or measures. >> i think it's obvious. the new jersey star ledger. earlier this week, we showed nick wallenda's high-wire walk. now may have one-upped the daredevil with this. being eaten alive by an anaconda without killing himself or the
snake. >> what? >> what? >> yeah. discovery says the man did it wearing a custom-built suit. here's part of the promo. yeah. it's not too graphic. >> that's the largest species of snake on earth. anaconda anaconda, right there. catch it, catch it. >> we're going to get me inside of a snake. we're going to make me as appealing as possible so the snake says, well, i got this thing thing here, i might as well get a free meal. you have to go head first. >> well, of course. i mean, of course you have to go head first. everybody knows that. >> joe, are you going to watch that? >> no way. no way! i wouldn't even watch the high wire thing. >> okay. >> i'll set my dvr and report back to you.
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counterintuitive set of numbers. we've seen the futures move higher as a result. we've seen the numbers s good enough at this point certainly. >> michelle's got it there, they're good enough. the one number we talked about earlier that's not good enough is the incomes number, so you still see no growth in incomes and therefore even for the americans working, a pretty tough situation. >> i think that's a background for the political landscape as well. people because aren't feeling it. you can't sell them on something they can't feel. >> they don't have it. >> they don't have it. >> if your incomes are not going up. >> should also point out the participation rate barely budged as well. that's still a pretty low number. suggesting numbers in the workforce just isn't high and hasn't picked up very much over last few years. >> what does it take to get income to start rising? >> it takes -- i just sort of end where we began the show a few hours ago. it takes a whole slew of prog m
programs. whether it's infrastructure, education, training. you know, more spending on r & d. all those kinds of -- tax reform. all that kind of stuff. immigration certainly. these are the kinds of things that will get the country moving and get the income to the people who need it. >> thank you so much. still ahead in maryland, there's a field lab for the nation's top military microbiologists working on a high priority project. a rare behind the scenes look at this lab. we'll go there live next to reveal exactly what they're working on. we'll be right back. you, my friend are a master of diversification.
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particularly outstanding or perhaps significant it seemed to me a good many folk singing groups were in washington today, white and negro alike. joan baez was there. one of the groups was peter, paul and mary. one of the numbers they performed was "if i had a hammer" and this is the way it went. ♪ if i had a hammer ♪ a hammer in the morning ♪ had a hammer in the evening
>> what's it like to look back at that? performing for tens of thousands at the 1963 march on washington. joining us now, we have peter and paul. they're out with a new book, "50 years in music and life." such an honor to have you both here. you were just singing to me. >> i was. >> we couldn't resist it. >> i saw your response to the "puff the magic dragon" discussion. i said, that's our kind of gal. >> it's just about a magic dragon that lives by the sea, right? it's not about anything else. >> it's about marijuana. >> no, it is not. >> it's about pot. >> okay. >> john, john, i know you wrote the song. and therefore -- >> okay, tell us quickly about the book. we'll have joe jump in for a question. this looks wonderful. >> thank you. >> you had a chance to look through it? it is a huge arc, a huge legacy we inherited and keep on moving.
through all of the activism of the 60s, 70s 80s and 90s and continues today. >> i love it, joe. >> you guys did help reclaim folk music as social and a cultural and a political force in america. could you imagine the impact you would have? not only did you help change folk music and the music scene and the culture, you had a lot of big hits too. >> you know, joe, first of all, i saw you playing along with graham nash and i know you're not an innocent in this regard. >> oh, he's not. >> you got a real background in this. so let me tell you it was not just -- it was the whole folk field that allowed people to have a music that expressed their aspirations. for an end to discrimination. and to get together to really make america the kind of country that could be proud that it was
addressing that social disgrace and also moving to an era of real citizen participation. >> john heilman. >> i want to know what the song's really about now. >> it's about the innocence of childhood lost. are you going to get stuck on this? >> i love that song. it's meant more to me than almost any song ever. >> good. your hero has been restored to you. >> that's not because of your predilection for drugs, i assume. >> oh, no. i never knew my angle. i'm going to remember it as what i thought as a child, one of my favorite songs. joe. >> one final question before we hear you play. could you all ever imagine when you started playing at the bitter end what would come of you three? >> well, i think this is a classic definition of follow your heart and the rest of the world will line up.
we were at the right place, the right time, singing music that we loved. the fact that it informed our audience as well as ourselves. when people come up to us and they say we grew up with your music, we're like, yeah, we grew up with it too. >> if you want to know the answer to that question, as you leaf through the pang, of this book, you see pictures of us at the march on washington, with the beatles, with the queen of england. and you know about how we felt about all that. and then you'll say, i know how they grew to live the reality. >> a beautiful book. a forward by john kerry, the secretary of state. >> absolutely gorgeous book. >> he notes in his forward that it's not about looking back. it's about saying, can we recapture this spirit that was epitomized at that time and invest ourselves with that idealism and that hopefulness. he says yes, this book will help us do it. >> on that note, let's hear some
of the classic song "puff the magic dragon." >> okay, one, two, three. ♪ ♪ oh puff the magic dragon lived by the sea ♪ ♪ and frolicked in the autumn mist ♪ ♪ little jackie paper he loved that rascal butch ♪ ♪ and he brought him strings and ceiling wax and other fancy stuff ♪ ♪ all together sing ♪ puff the magic dragon ♪ even the cameraman ♪ lived by the sea ♪ yeah they're doing it ♪ and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called halalie ♪
♪ oh puff the magic dragon ♪ lived by the sea ♪ and frolicked in the autumn mist ♪ ♪ in a land called halalie ♪ together they would travel on a boat with billowed sails ♪ ♪ jackie kept a lookout perch ♪ on puff's gigantic tail ♪ and noble kings and princes ♪ would bow wherever they came ♪ and pirate ships would lower their flags when puff roared out ♪ ♪ puff the magic dragon ♪ lived by the sea ♪ frolicked in the autumn mist ♪ in a land called halalie
come on in, come on in. ♪ lived by the sea ♪ and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called halalie ♪ ♪ the dragon lives forever ♪ but not so little girls and boys ♪ ♪ painted wings and giant's rings ♪ ♪ make way for other toys ♪ one night it happened ♪ jackie paper king no more ♪ and puff that mighty dragon ♪ he ceased his fearless roar ♪ and his head was bent in sorrow ♪ ♪ green scales fell like rain ♪ puff no longer went to play along cherry lane ♪ ♪ without his lifelong friend ♪ puff could not be brave
♪ so puff that mighty dragon ♪ sadly slipped into his cave ♪ puff the magic dragon ♪ lived by the sea ♪ and frolicked in the autumn mist ♪ ♪ in a land called ♪ but he's still there ♪ puff the magic dragon ♪ and his daughter ♪ jackie's daughter visits him ♪ and he frolics ♪ frolics in the autumn mist in a land called halalie ♪ ♪ one more time ♪ puff the magic dragon ♪ lives by the sea ♪ and frolics in the autumn mist ♪ ♪ in a land called halalie thank you, nbc. >> there is no way that that is about anything bad. that's about life. i love that song.
thank you so much. mika was almost weeping during that song. >> it makes me cry. as a child, it made me cry. it did. >> the wonderful thing is, music of that time really did connect with people's hearts. >> it does. it's beautiful. thank you so much for sharing that with us. >> you guys have such amazing voices still. you haven't lost a note. >> okay, where am i here? >> also, mika. >> yes, joe? >> as we start to go to break, we're actually playing a song that was the first song my mother taught me on guitar. where have all the flowers gone. and it was your song we would listen to. the reason i started playing guitar was because of this song. everybody can blame you guys. >> thank you so much. >> the book is 50 years in music and life. your songs still make me cry. peter and paul, thank you so
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new york. we're going there. wish me luck. come on, girls. >> got a long drive. >> that's okay. >> i learned the next time you want to get eaten by an anaconda, go in head first. >> that's weird. that's weird. >> always head first. >> why are they doing that? >> i learned that peter and paul are awesome. i learned that joe is the most optimistic man in america. i learned that ratty will only go to cities -- >> oh, no. >> you told me that was off -- >> i just learned that it's a private plane, isn't it? >> i'm going the high road. >> steve, serious. >> i'm going the high road and saying i think it was about a 5-1 vote for those of us who believe it's going to be gridlock versus those who believe it's going to be
progress. >> i think we should take a note from joe and be optimistic. >> fair enough. >> optimistic, joe. >> all right. if it's way too early, joe what time is it? >> well, it's time for "morning joe" and time for sunshine and happiness and optimism. but stick around because now we've got peter alexander and "the daily rundown." the lowest unemployment rate since july 2000. as the economy adds 214,000 jobs. more on the numbers straight ahead. also this morn, the identity of the navy s.e.a.l. who killed osama bin laden revealed, or is it? competing claims cause a stir inside the military. and president obama gepts set to host congressional leaders to talk about the road ahead. is there any reason for hope now? a very good morning from washington. i'm kristen welker. it is a very busy friday, nove 7
-- south africa. it was a charging black right now -- rh p -- rhino. >>. "fox & friends" starts right now. have a great weekend. >> bye! ♪ it is black friday in europe, that according to a member of the european union because of an historic vote yesterday. great britain is going to leave the european union and you are looking live at a light house in turnberry, scotland, where very shortly donald trump is going to make comments and the reason we're taking that is because donald trump was one of the few foreign luminaries on the winning side of this. both barack obama and hillary clinton said the people of great britain should stay in the european union. apparently as we have heard this last week, people didn't like
the fact that they were lectured to by our president and just by about 3 or 4%, it looks like the people of england, are going to be autonomous once again. >> 52% decided to vote to leave and also breaking this morning, the prime minister, david cameron. he came out. people weren't expecting him to resign so quickly. he resigned this morning and says he will stay in office the next three months just to get things settled but this could take about two years to actually pan out. they have got to work out all the border issues because these are people who are saying we want tighter immigration. a lot of similarities what's happening there to what's happening in our country. >> so many years in the making, the frustration that has cull any natd in this, a truly historic night. i got no sleep watching the returns in realtime. >> you need cable. there's a lot of tv. >> by the way, pete is here
today. >> it was expected 8-to-1 this would fail and this would remain and the people rose up. that's the story. this is a story of freedom, sovereignty, the nation state rejecting it. >> 52% voted to leave and it's interesting because yesterday at this time the polls suggested that they would stay. the prime minister as ainsley just mentioned david cameron is going to call it quits. he's going to resign the within next three months. he apparently is meeting with the queen at this moment. >> well, boris johnson was friends with david cameron and then they split because david wanted to stay and boris johnson wanted to leave and boris johnson, people are wondering now will he become the prime minister? he's definitely on the short list, but what's fascinating about that, boris johnson's family wanted to stay. >> who was he? >> he was the former mayor of london. he was also a columnist for a newspaper there, and he a lot --
many people are comparing him to donald trump because he wanted -- he wanted things to change because people there are fed up and the people have voted. >> speaking of donald trump, on twitter obviously because of social media, has exploded with reaction. some of the things, england is having a donald trump moment. one person tweeted. brexit is further proof that donald trump will be the next president of the united states and a third one, lesson from brexit for the united states. if you think trump can't win, you are lazy, complacent and very dangerous. also sarah palin went to her facebook page and even though she's way out in alaska, she wrote this. time-out between kid soccer games to tune in to good news of uk voting to leave the european union. choosing independence from global special interests and affirming status that controls its own borders. >> i didn't realize northern ireland is part of the uk and
the southern part of ireland is not. so i was reading this morning a lot of people that live in northern ireland, they worked in the southern part of ireland and they go to school in the southern part of ireland. they are going to have to go through customs eventually once they work out the immigration issues to go to work. >> there will be complications no doubt with trade and otherwise, the united states would be responsible to immediately embrace them. this is the silent majority. that's exactly what it was. the elites said we will remain and the people said we want to be sovereign. we want our nation back. that is what is at stake with this brexit. >> the number one story today will be the parallels between what happened in great britain and what could happen in november in the united states. somehow, our own john roberts was able to make it through customs. he now is joining us from turnberry, scotland. he's traveling with donald trump. what are we expecting donald trump to say today? >> reporter: steve, ainsley, brian, good morning to you. the only reason they let me in
is because my father was born here. we're expecting donald trump to arrive in the 20 minutes or so. he arrived at the turnberry resort about an hour ago. weighed in a bit on the brexit. he supported it. he thought it was a great thing, that people in the uk have said that they want their freedom, they want their independence. here's what he said in a statement just a little while ago from his campaign. a trump administration pledges to strengthen our ties with a free and independent britain, deepening our bonds in commerce, culture, and mutual defense. come november, the american people will have the chance to redeclare their independence. one of the driving forces behind the brexit movement was what people saw as unchecked immigration as a result of the open borders of the european union. last night speaking with sean hannity, donald trump talked
about his thoughts on immigration and specifically in particular, immigration from places where terrorism thrives. here he is from last night. >> yesterday, we want to take people into this country and we do. i want people to come in and i want people to come in tremendous waves but they have to come in legally. but they have to love our country. they have to really just love what we stand for and what we represent, and a lot of people coming in, i mean, if they are into the world of sharia, you are talking about from a different planet. now, the way that they feel about women -- >> yeah. so we expect that we'll hear more from donald trump on that this morning. what's interesting is that while the uk overall voted for the exit eu 52-48. here in scotland, it was exactly the opposite vote. it was 62-38 in favor of staying in the eu. so it's interesting that donald trump is here in scotland where his mother was born. he's saying that the uk should leave the eu but scotland wants
to stay. there's a couple of competing ideas we'll ask him about today. >> we've got pete with us. john, listening to your roots. now we know you've got a lot scotch on you. [ laughter ] >> i think it's good for everybody to have a little scotch in you. >> my grandfather would say the same thing. >> was he scotch? >> he liked his scotch. >> john, what is your sense, i think for americans waking up this morning, make remotely familiar with this brexit, there's a referendum going on, give us a sense of how historic does this feel there? you are there with reporters and others. what are the real historic implications of 59 years of eu, 28 member states. this has never happened. give us a sense of that. >> it's not just historic, peter. it's stunning as well because yesterday people thought that
the remain vote was going to win because there was a poll out that showed exactly the opposite of what happened. when we woke up this morning, we saw that the uk had voted, people in the uk had voted to exit the eu, he was quite a surprise. what this begins now is a two-year long process to try to figure out how to do it, to maintain trade deals that are in place. will david cameron go before the end of this? who will replace him? there's a lot of uncertainty right now and that's why you are seeing the markets so volatile at this point. it may be that people are looking at this initially in a worse light than it will eventually turn out to be. a lot of people are stunned as to what happened last night with the vote and where they go from here. a lot remains to be seen. >> surely. john roberts standing by live at the golf course in turnberry, scotland. owned by donald trump. donald trump will take the microphones in just a bit and we'll return to your location shortly with a live report.
>> donald trump got off the plane wearing his "make america great again" hat. >> he owns the company. >> let's get to how it unfolded and how it's going to affect the rest of the world. give us the scoop. >> reporter: so much for the polls, so much for the bookmakers, what the neck -- heck do they know. people here in the uk are waking up to find out they are heading the out of europe and they need a new leader shortly. take a listen to this. >> people have to think for themselves and what's going to be better for us and it's safer to leave. >> give money to other people in other countries when we've got our own to look after. >> absolutely wonderful. the best news ever. we want england to many could
back, great britain to come back as it was years ago. >> the best news ever. not exactly the news that david cameron wanted to hear, the prime minister of great britain, who has campaigned hard to keep this country in the eu, but enough people said, no, we want out. we want control of our own borders, and that was the final stay, and that meant just several hours ago, the prime minister himself, mr. cameron came out of 10 downing street and walked up to the microphones and said this country is going to need a new leader. >> the british people have made a decision to go a different path. i will do everything i can as prime minister to steady the ship over the coming weeks and months, but i do not think it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination. >> so we're into a period of
uncertainty. certainly the financial markets have reflected that today. the dust will settle eventually maybe in a couple of weeks, but what effect does this have for the united states? that volatility will certainly have an impact on the financial markets in the united states. it will strengthen the dollar as people are uncertain, they will go to the dollar which means that american exports will be more expensive, so that's not such a good situation, and also there's a question of security in europe. now that england will not have as much influence, will not be at the table so to speak when they discuss those security issues, which means that the u.s.'s window into europe may not be as useable as it has been in the past, so maybe the u.s. has to try and solidify the allied relationships with those on the couldn't -- continent. we don't know what's going to happen, but we know that england
in the next two years will be free of europe and we'll have a new prime minister in the united inc. dom. it's been quite a friday. >> are you from that area and what are your thoughts about that area? >> did you vote? >> i did not. i'm from the uk. i would have voted to leave, to be honest with you. i'm in the age group that would say let's get our sovereignty back. i also have a u.s. passport. i'm very lucky. i was frankly surprised. i really thought that given what we had heard on the street that the remain crowd would have won, but as i say, don't always believe the polls. >> asialy webster -- ashley webster reporting on the vote. britain will exit, they will brexit. >> it went from what look like a tight race, and it was clear. they called it early. >> you are looking live, if you
are just waking up. how pretty is that? that's turnberry, scotland. he's one of the few foreign luminaries on the winning side. most establishment politicians said they should say in the eu, including barack obama and hillary clinton? one of the donald trump says is i think the immigration problem has been -- i had a feeling myself he will take a little victory lap this morning because there were a number of republican strategyists who said this is a bad move for him to make a trip abroad during this vote. >> we're going to be interviewing tony blair on
"fox & friends" to find out his take. he was very vocal. he did not want to leave. he's also a clinton supporter. we'll have him here this morning and ask him questions. >> from the economy, assimilation, national security. the tentacles of the eu became political and judicial and there was this government influence offer the uk and people rejected it. >> let's go to our nation's capital. tucker carlson joins us live. what were the people of england saying? in saying we're getting the heck out of this thing. >> this is not actually a surprise if you've been paying attention. what's happening in the united states is not an anomaly. it's part of a global movement called nationalism. people have nation-states for a reason so the people in charge, both in the uk and here see themselves as basically citizens
of the world. all of this together. the average person does not see him as a citizen of the world but a citizen of a distinct country with a distinct language and culture. that's a foreign concept to the people in charge. that's why you are seeing that revolt there and here. when you talk to finance people, they said it's irrational, it's bad for business, therefore, it won't happen. they did not see this coming. they convinced themselves it was -- that the people would never vote this way and yet if you listen carefully you heard the stirrings of it. i think this is a very, very no, ma'am nous sign for the democrats in the united states and i don't think i'm overdrawing it. again, look at what you saw. people voted yesterday but they didn't tell pollsters how they were going to vote. it was seen as highly unfashible.
>> are you suggesting in this country when poll sters when people call, people are reluctant say yeah, i'm for donald trump, so many people in the mainstream media says if you are for donald trump, you are a racist, big bot. >> people lie to pollsters. the way you anxious the question is kind of virtue signaling. you are talking about the kind of person you are. in '08, voting for obama was very fashionable. he under performed his polls. in the case of trump, the opposite is absolutely true. if you ask a cross-section of people, are you for trump, you know the ones who are, who say i'm not quite sure. you are for trump. it's not about trump. it's not about any politician. it's about the preservation of a distinct country. people made nation states for a reason. it was an organization. the elites don't feel that way. >> tucker, we're awaiting donald
trump in scotland. we're told he's stepping up to the podium very soon. we might have to interrupt you. in the meantime, you are saying this a good thing for donald trump. is this more about the economy and immigration and how can we expect or what should we expect for november 8th here in the u.s. based on what's happening over there? >> well, we should expect to be surprised. it doesn't mean trump is going to win. there's a long way to go and i think he needs to discipline his campaign in order to win. it tells you the themes that have propelled him thus far are most resona on nate -- resonant. we are the world. it takes a village, the average person doesn't want a village. he wants a country. >> tucker, absolutely.
you observe the european politics and the trends there. is this a gasp of the uk, the most u.s country, is this something that we could see spread elsewhere in europe? >> that's exactly right. that's the per septemberi -- perseptive. >> look at the numbers. this is the untold story. in france, for example, not a right wing country, 61% of people in france want to leave the eu. you are going to see annex o odd -- an ex-exodus. >> people had a choice, exit or remain. here they have a choice. do you want the establishment
candidate who knows how washington works because she's been there for 40 years? well, actually not that long. in politics. or do you want this outsider guy, this upstart, this insurgent whose number one topic is illegal immigration and the sovereignty of our borders? it's a clear choice. >> that's exactly right and they are inextricable and the reason this stuff is so shocking to the people in charge is because they consider it irrational, the bankers said look, this is going to inhibit the free flow of capital. this is bad for business. you are going to see massive job loss in the financial sector. they couldn't imagine people would vote for that. they don't understand people is the problem. >> tucker, it was interesting that boris johnson who is behind the leave campaign, his entire family wand to stay.
his parents, his sister, they were wearing stay t-shirts throughout the night and yesterday being interviewed on different networks. not even supporting their own son. so what does this mean for him going forward? do you think he will become the prime minister? >> well, it means -- one, they have a lot at stake at most affluent do in the union, in the status quo, in globalism and it means boris johnson could be the next prime minister. >> tucker, thawnk very much for some instant analysis on what's going on over in great britain where they have voted to exit the european union. tucker will be here on the couch tomorrow morning. we're awaiting donald trump. we'll bring it to you live. you see it right there. turnberry, scotland. as soon as he steps up to the podium, we'll have it live, of course. in the meantime, we'll take a quick little break.
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you are looking live at turnberry trump in scotland, where they have upscale rooms and suites. donald trump is going to be at that lecturn very shortly. he's going to be talking a little bit about the brexit bombshell, the united kingdom, great britain voted yesterday to exit after six decades in the european union. >> we're going to be talking with stuart varney. he's on the curb curve have couch. here we go again. two deputies overnight were shot. a manhunt is now intensifying to find out who was responsible. gunfire outside los angeles shortly before 11:00 p.m. pacific time. two deputies rush to the hospital as police search for a suspect or suspects involved. more than 40 patrol cars responding to that scene.
the officers' conditions are not known yet and no word on what was the cause of that shooting. we'll keep you posted on that story. they have been waiting for justice for five years now, and now a trial date has finally been set for one of the alleged master minds behind the benghazi attack. akmed abaaoud fa tal la will go in front of a judge. attorney general loretta lynch says she will not go for the death penalty. communities underwater in west virginia following intense flash flooding there. take a look. folks in the area in shock as a burning house up rooted and carried down a creek. this happening in white sulfur springs, a desperate searching pickup truck this morning for a four-year-old carried away by
strong currents. playing in an area called ravenswood. and wheeling, crews rush in to rescue families who are trapped in those rising waters. we'll bring you more. >> thank you, heather. looking live, turnberry scotland, that's trump-owned courses that's to say. joining us on the curvy couch, a man with dual u.s. and english citizenship, stuart varney. yesterday, the people of england largely outside of london -- because that's where the majority came from -- voted to exit. in london, they are said you know what we like the idea of organized government thinking for us over at the eu. what is your thoughts? >> the near 4 point margin of victory for the leave campaign is a surprise.
nobody really expected this. all the way up to the last minute. >> yesterday, the polls were the opposite. >> they were the opposite and the elites were saying don't worry about it. they are not going to leave. they have got more sense than that and by midnight eastern time last night, it became very clear that the leave campaign had won and won i think decisively in this particular vote. >> so they voted to leave the european union very soon. what were they rejecting? >> i think there's a direct parallel between what they voted on in britain yesterday and what we will be voting on in november. the issues are the same. immigration. control our country, control your borders, control your own parliament, make your own laws for your own people and we don't like the elites. they have led us oun the -- down the gaferreden path. we're not better off. you are not telling us the truth. those three factors they voted on in britain yesterday.
same thing here. in american political terms, hillary lost and trump won. that's my interpretation. the american interpretation of the vote yesterday. >> it's going to take at least two years they are saying. now they have to secure the borders. >> for the next two years, britain negotiates its exit from europe. what the british vote has really done is unravel europe. i think it's going to collapse. the european union as we know is is done. >> you see it cascading. >> i do. marie lapenne is calling for a referendum in france. >> mixture hul came out and -- hillary clinton came out and said pause thes part of the establishment, they need to remain. our president famously went over
there and said that we should -- they should stay in the eu because they don't want to step to the back of the queue, and famously donald trump said you know what, if i was president, they wouldn't be at the back of the queue in my administration. >> donald trump is the only significant personality anywhere in the world who said get out. >> is hillary clinton waking up terrified? >> i wouldn't say that word precisely. but i think she's got cause for concern. >> since you said that trump is the only foreign luminary of note who came down on the side of, yeah, get out, do you think that today's peach which we're awaiting very shortly at trump turnberry in scotland, is this going to be a victory lap? >> i think so. he's the only one who said you brits get out. he's going to say i'm right. the issues that you are backing me for won in britain.
that's something he's going to say. >> you know what, at the same time it looks like they are very shortly going to start speaking, donald trump will take the stage, a number of republican strajests said he's out of his mind to visit scotland during this particular vote. >> it ended out working out in his favor. >> watch out for this. the left is going to say the haters won. they are going to brand the people who wanted to leave the european union as haters. you can see it coming from a mile. boris johnson he is the former mayor of london, when he emerge from his house this morning, remember he was the leader of the leave campaign, he can the next prime minister of britain. he was met by a crowd of people shouting racist scum. that's the haters trying to shut it down. >> the markets are going to react to this in a volatile way initially. how does this affect the uk in
the long term? >> you're 401(k) is going to be down a bit in the early going and then i think it's going to bounce back. >> thank you very much. we were expecting donald trump to make his speech just a little while ago. i'm sure that guy is telling the cameraman is about 2 minutes away and why don't we step aside. >> we're awaiting donald trump. let's break. share the joy of real cream... ...with reddi-wip.
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hillary clinton both famously said remain. donald trump, i look for him to take a little victory lap. you know what, i think i was right. >> i think he will be doing that. ivanka arrived hip. we saw eric and his grandchild. >> it was a long-planned trip to go to scotland. to keep it. not knowing what the vote is goi going to go. he's one of the few people who said this is right. the issues he's talking about here apply there as well. >> people have spoken. they are fed up with the establishment. john roberts is in turnberry with more on what we can expect. good morning, john. >> ainsley, steve, peter. donald trump was going to come here to reopen the new turnberry golf course. we're standing on the 9th tee,
with the light house in the background. donald trump has found himself in in the middle of a huge story with the stunning story of the brexit with people voting to leave. donald trump is the person who said in the run up to the referendum yesterday he would like people in the uk to exercise their right to self-determination and independence and leave the eu and they have done that. he might take a little bit of a victory lap this morning. he may just do that. here's a statement that his campaign released just a short time ago. trump when he arrived here by the way he thought it was a great result and people here were exercising their right to inspect, but he said further in a statement, the people of the united kingdom have exercised the sacred right of all free people's. they have voted to reassert control over their own politics, borders and economy. trump administration should be elected president pledges to strengthen our ties with the free and independent britain, deepening our bonds in commerce, culture, and mutual defense.
the whole world is more peaceful and stable when our two countries and two people are together. he relates it to the american election. a lot of people are looking at people arising here against the status quo in the uk, people might do that in the united states. come november, the american people will have a chance to redeclare their independence. they will have a chance to vote for trade, immigration, foreign policy to put our citizens first. they will have a chance to reject the rule of the global elite. i hope america is watching. it will soon be time to believe in america again. one of interesting aspects of this is while across the uk, people voted 52-48 to leave the european union. here in scotland, where trump's mother is from, they voted 62-38 to stay. now there's talk after the failed referendum for scottish independence last year, they may hold another referendum. if that is in favor of independence, scotland would
leave the uk and perhaps rejoin the eu. so the beginning of the story is just being written now. we've got a long way to go to see what the eventual outcome is going to be. >> john roberts who i think would like to stay in scotland where his family is from. you are there at the newly renovated trump turnberry. what's it like? i'm sure it's fantastic, right? >> you know, they did modify a couple of holes on the front nine, but it's really this triplet of 9, 10, and 11 that is absolutely spectacular. i played here with my wife a couple of years ago in the pouring rain. it was the tail-end of a hurricane and this turn was kind of just, run of the mill if you look, but the way they redesigned 9, 10, 11, it's nothing short of spectacular. i would compare these three
holes the amen corner in augusta. they won't reopen the open here here for a few years. it's going to be a spectacular course. >> john roberts is odd igsing for a job on the golf channel. we're going to go to donald trump. he's going to be taking the podium behind you shortly. >> the good news, if he's expensing this trip, it's going to be a lot cheaper because the pound is way down. >> your dollars are going a lot farther. when donald trump got off the plane, he was wearing that "make america great again" hat. he's going to talk about that. in the meantime, the big news is the brexit bombshell as you can see right there, the people of england have voted to exit the european union. david cameron, the current prime minister, has been very staunch.
we've got to remain. now, the people say let's go. david cameron says, you know what, i should go too. here he is calling it quits. >> the british people have made a very clear decision to take a different path. and as such, i think the country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction. i will do everything i can as prime minister to steady the ship over the coming weeks and months. but i do not think it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination. >> and it looks like he will remain in place for the next three months. >> there's a transition period. almost too smart for his own good. he as part of his re-election effort, put this referendum on the ballot. then he came out against the reference dem he put on the ballot. lost the referendum and now he's out. british politics, they will see a new leader. >> ashley webster, we've been
talking to him this morning, you saw him live, he was talking to people on the ground to get reaction from folks there in london. take a listen. >> people just have to think for themselves and what's going to be better for us and it's safer to leave. it's safer to leave. >> giving money to other people, other countries when we've got our own to look after. >> absolutely wonderful. the best news ever. we want england to come back, great britain to come back as it was years ago. >> there you go. a return to glory. >> making them great again. >> the main issues the people were voting on, unemployment is a problem there, social security issues, and, of course, the migrant crisis because the way eu is set up, it's very easy to travel from one ei country to another, thus, the security, the sovereignty of each and every nation in great britain, they said we don't like the way they run it, we want to go back the old way. >> we are awaiting donald trump.
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hillary clinton and the establishment was they should stay, but historically now, the people of england had said we're going to go. >> i wish this guy would get out of the way so we could see him. >> you talked earlier with stuart varney about how many people were criticizing him for going over there, but look at this. i mean, this is a great opportunity for him politically. picturesque. it doesn't get prettier than that. they go inside and they come out and beautiful attire. >> a lot of symbolism. almost a triumphant approach on a dawn of a new day. a country like that under the tentacles of the e ux, people are calling this the new independence day in the uk. word to the control room. could we put up sarah palin's facebook page to show what she was up to. she commented. keep in mind the polls yesterday
at this hour showed that it looked like the people of great britain would vote to stay, but the polls got it exactly backwards. that's one of the reasons she went to her facebook page and said this, time out between kids -- to tune in to good news of uk to leave the european union. afarming status that controls its own borders and protects its own people. happy brexit prevails. >> we hear the bagpipes. let's listen to a press conference of donald trump in turnberry, scotland. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, i just like to bid you all a very warm welcome as we call it here the sunshine corner of scotland. i think yesterday we were worried about rain. i got a call about ten minutes ago, where is the hundred umbrellas, no need. great pleasure to have you here
on the today of the grant opening of trump turnberry and our course. i would like to introduce you to mr. donald j. trump. [ applause ] >> get him out. thank you. >> sorry, mr. trump. >> okay, thank you very much. i appreciate it, and this is an amazing honor.
it's an amazing day. very historic day for a lot of reasons, not only to turnberry. there was one of the big votes in the history of europe and scotland and everywhere. it was very exciting coming in and we were landing and we had just heard the results, so i wish everybody a lot of luck. i think that it's purely historic, and what's happening is historic, so it's an honor to be with you. my mother was born in scotland, she loved scotland. she would be here a lot. she would come here every year with my sisters and they just loved it. her loyalty to scotland was incredible. she respected and loved the queen, and she loved the ceremony and the pomp, pomp and circumstance, and she was something special, and to think that we would be here owning turnberry one day would be incredible. she would come to turnberry with
her friends, and they would have dinner at turnberry. she didn't play golf, but they would have dinner at turnberry, so having -- taken this hotel and done the job that we've done with it is just an honor that i was given the opportunity. we bought it about 4 1/2 years ago. the town council has been incredible. the local politicians and all of the politicians all throughout have been absolutely incredible. they have proved virtually everything that we asked for. we asked for the right things but the approval process because it's so historic, it had to go through many different layers but every single thing that we wanted, they agreed that they thought it was good, and in some cases, great. we've taken the light house, which is a very, very important building in florida -- i mean, in scotland, and we've taken that building and made it something really special. inside the light house right now
is incredible suites and it's called a halfway house because this is the 9th tee and it's call halfway house on the bottom you have dining and golfers will stop and they will go and get something to eat and they go on the tenth hole, tenth tee right next door and it was in disrepair and all of the people from landmark, scotland, all the people that we had to go through, i just thank you because it was a long, difficult process getting that approved but they really wanted to see it at the highest level and now it's a higher level than it ever was. when you see, i don't know if you'll get the chance, you should see the suites because they are two of the most beautiful suites you'll ever see and when the water is rough today -- it's very calm. i've almost never seen it like that, but sometimes you have waves that are literally crashing on to this piece of land that we're standing on. it's one of most beautiful sights you'll see.
this hole didn't exist. it's been incredible. they have worked with us on design. they wanted to do these changes for probably close to 50 years because they were so obvious and we've years because they were so obvious. we have made certain changes to the course. and in addition to that, we fully renovated the course. brand-new sprinkler system, the highest level. many of the holes have been jiggered, made even longer and yet it's the same turnberry. but the whole 9, 10 and 11 and 4 have been changed and moved out into the ocean. this hole is an example from approximately this area, you would hit over there. this was a par 4. and you'd hit over there and it was a much different thing. now you're hitting out over the ocean. and just to the right of the light house you have a green and a lot of people think this will be the greatest par 3 anywhere in the world.
and then 10 becomes a par 5 that the golfers and the members know. i think we have a lot of the members of turnberry right in the back. the captain and we appreciate you being here. we have then number 11 which is a spectacular hole. also par 3. built right on the cliffs. and that hole was moved about 200 yards to the left. and tom watson saw me and he won the british open many times, peter, right, many times and he said 5. he said, what a change. you know, he actually thought it was a very easy hole the way it was. but he probably liked it because he would birdie it all the time. but what we have done is what everybody has wanted to do for many, many decades. i want to thank martin ebert who has done an incredible job as the architect. and i called up the royal and
ancient peter dawson, an amazing man and a great guy and a talented person. and loves the sport and loves scotland and frankly, i said who should i use as the architect? and he did me a big favor, he recommended martin. so i want to thank you and i want to thank peter dawson who is here with us now. peter dawson headed up the royal and ancient for years. and he has been just a great friend. i thank you for everything, peter. your recommendations have been incredible. thank you very much. my son eric was in charge of the job. i wanted to be -- i wanted to come over here and ivanka and don came with me to congratulate eric. he was really -- we gave him the responsibility of building the hotel, as you know it was gutted down do to the steel and rebuild. i think it will be one of the great hotels of the world. it already was, but it was in somewhat dilapidated shape. we had a choice, paint it, or do
it the way we did it. we went back to the original plans. we were able to get the plans from the original architects from many, many years ago. 1906, and we went back to those plans. which are magnificent rooms, very big. they were cut in half and all sorts of things happened over the years and we have something that's very special. it's considered one of the most beautiful buildings in all of golf. i think we can say that, peter. you know, usually a building when you have a building on a golf course that's not an asset. that's called a liability. this is one of the buildings where even though it's in the distance when you're on the 18th hole and looking at this building it's considered one of the great beautiful and historical sites in golf. jack nicklaus won the open championship and tom watson, you know, you have so -- actually, the greatest -- i guess they say one of the greatest tournaments if not the single greatest
tournament in the history of golf was the duel in the sun. 1977 with tom watson and jack nicklaus. that was just birdie, birdie, birdie. everybody else was -- they weren't in the match. they were going wild. that's what tom watson chipped in from the area you couldn't hit the green let alone get it in the hole. he chipped it in, that's what he did. jack is an incredible sportsman and the way he walked off the course was one of the great scenes in all of golf. and jack nicklaus is a friend of mine and a great champion and n or champions, whether it's nick price, we have had amazing winners at turnberry and really not only amazing winners for the open championship, but some of the best tournaments they've ever had. so we listened to the royal and ancient. we did what they wanted us to do. and in addition, they put in tremendous miles of television
cables and everything is underground so it's all ready to go from that standpoint. and the town is so happy and so thrilled and the town council who's here -- i want to thank you all very much for being here. they have been really terrific. so again, in honor of my mother mary mcleod who is a terrific person, she came to the united states at the age of 19. she was a beautiful, beautiful woman and a very smart woman and she met my father and that was it. they were married for a long time. and they had a great marriage. and really a great marriage, but in honor of my mother, mary mcleod and in honor of my children, don was instrumental in buying it. we had -- the owners they were here, they were friends of mine from dubai, great people, but this wasn't their thing because they didn't know too much about golf. they thought why should we move a hole in the ocean when we
already had a hole? i said it's a lot better. but they didn't understand the golf thing. but it always did well. you know, turnberry because of the location, because of the fact that you're on the ocean, because it's one of most spectacular properties in the world, it always did well. but now since we opened, we actually opened a number of weeks ago, the course, and we haven't had an empty slot. peter, you'll be happy to hear this. we haven't had one empty slot, from morning to night, it's packed. so it's special location. i don't know, it's just the location. everybody comes here, whether it's from london or wherever they want to be. they want to come to turnberry. with that, i just want to thank a few people. i have to thank ralph who -- the one thing the other owners did they said -- where is ralph? ralph, the one thing they said, you have a man named ralph. he was an assistant manager at that time. and one of the owners, he was sort of a friend said he's the most talented hotel person -- hotelier and they said, you
should have him be the manager. we did, we appointed him as the manager and it's been nothing but great stuff. and the hotel opened about two weeks ago and it's been -- been amazing. eric did such a good job. we had very few complaints, almost no complaints. usually when a hotel opens, you have drains that aren't connected or pipes that aren't connected, water spewing through the roofs and all sorts of things. we haven't had anything. they have done a great job. the contractors have done a fantastic job. and the hotel is built to the absolute highest standards of luxury. and the course is built to the absolute highest standards of tournament -- >> all right, ladies and gentlemen, a very proud donald trump talking about the renovations made at trump turnberry in scotland where as we just learned a little while ago that lighthouse back there has been turned into the halfway house as it's got a fantastic suite. if you're interested. he started by talking a little bit about the people of great
britain voting to exit the european union which is a bombshell. this is the big news today. they said they want to get out and donald trump who backed them, he said it was truly historic and that flies in the face of what barack obama and hillary clinton both have said in the past where they said they sided with the establishment of the united kingdom and said that england should stay. but the people of england said, we want to get out. >> one of those individuals that wanted to stay in the eu was the -- is the former prime minister of england, tony blair, who joins us now. >> good morning. >> what was your reaction to david cameron? we all woke up and heard the news. this happened for us over in the u.s. and david cameron, the current prime minister or i guess was a few -- >> still is. >> still is. he said he was going to resign because he was not in support of this. was that a good decision to do that so quickly?
>> well, i feel at a personal level sorry for him. but i'm most of all sorry for the country obviously because i think this result has huge implications for us. economically and politically. i mean, i don't really know whether this was the right thing to do for him right now, but he will in any event stay probably until october. so it will at least allows us to take some time with him still as prime minister which i think is important. so that we reflect on the result and we reflect on the consequences of it and see how we can stabilize our country and how we can better engage in a very, very difficult negotiation with the rest of europe. >> mr. blair, the analysis today is about the parallels about what's happening in the united states and what has happened in europe and what is happening in great britain as well, and you have got to admit, the people of england and by the way, trump is just concluding his comments
over there. his son eric taking to the podium, going to talk a little more about that particular resort there in scotland. mr. prime minister, the peop people -- a majority in your country, they're just sick of the eu. they don't like the way it's been going and they said, we can do a bet -- do it better on our own. >> yep. and you know, we have got to accept the result, the people have delivered. when you have a referendum like this you do indeed make momentous decisions but as you can see from the reaction on the financial markets and with our own currency today, we have grown trading relations with europe over 40 years. it was the policy of successive governments. margaret thatcher's, john major's, my own, david cameron's, to stay inside europe because we believe it's
important economically and politically. once we separate ourselves out that's going to be very difficult. yes, you're right. particularly on the issue of immigration, there was a huge amount of anxiety and concern about that. i don't think we will deal with that concern by leaving europe. but undoubtably it was a popular revolt against the -- those who have taken this position across the political spectrum for many years. >> mr. prime minister, you're not leaving europe, you're still part of the continent. but they'll make it tougher to get into the country. you have a border again. that's what the people in the united states are angry about. >> yeah, but, you know, we're actually part of the full arrangements within europe and in any event, what you did have within europe is the free movement of people. of course that -- >> too free. >> that goes both ways. i understand the anxieties that people have, although the fact that we've got eastern europe anchored in the european union
today, particularly when you look what's happening with russia is in my view a good thing. one thing to understand about the economic situation is that now half of the goods and services that we create going to that european market. if we want access back into that market, we're going to have to negotiate the terms and we have to negotiate them and each of the 27 countries, their government, parliament, got to agree to the terms and the european parliament. i'm not ignoring the vote, but people shouldn't ignore the consequences. they'll be quite big. >> don't you feel like the people of the uk have felt the consequences of the policies, something mentioned quite a bit here in the united states is that the most popular boy's name in london is muhammad. there are massive demographic changes across your landscape. are the people rejecting the open border policy, the idea that we're accepting refugees or migrants but not demanding assimilation? is that a big part of this? are regular britons saying enough is enough with this? >> look, it is part of it, but
you put your finger on what the problem is. this vote doesn't change any of those issues. the majority of the immigration comes from outside of europe. not people within the european union moving around between countries. and for example, in respect to syrian refugees we have the perfect right because we're not part of the full european system. we have a perfect right to determine who comes into the -- >> pardon the interruption, donald trump is at the podium and he has questions about brexit. let's listen. >> i see a big parallel. i think people see a big parallel, a lot of people are talking about that. not only in the united states but other countries. people want to take their country back. they want to have independence in a sense and you see it with
europe, all over europe. you're going to have more than just in my opinion what happened last night. i think many other cases where they want to take their borders back. they want to take their monetary back. they want to take a lot of things back. they want to be able to have a country again. so i think you're going to have this happen more and more. i really believe that. i think it's happening in the united states. it's happening by the fact that i have done so well in the polls. you look at the recent polling and you look at the swing states and you see how i'm doing. i haven't started my campaign yet essentially. we have done very well, we're raising a lot of money for the republican party. i'm going to be funding a lot myself, but we're raising a lot for the republican party and you will see the numbers come out over the next 30 days, in particular, 60 days. the numbers put out last week, that was a very start. that was a small period of time, just a start. but we have raised a lot of money, especially money coming in from small donors. you'll be amazed when you see
the kind of numbers that we're talking about. because i was amazed. that will be reported soon. i do see a parallel between what's happening in the united states and what's happening here. people want to see borders. they don't necessarily want people pouring into their country that they don't know what that are and they where they come from. they have no idea. i think, you know, not only did it win, but by a much bigger margin than people thought it would happen. >> how would your administration -- >> well, you have to embrace it. it's the will of the people. it's the will of the people. not a question of embracing it. it's always the will of the people, ultimately that wins out. >> are you concerned about -- >> right, well, nobody knows. look f the pound goes do down, they'll do more business. if the pound goes down, more people are coming to turnberry, frankly. the pound has gone down and let's see what the impact of that has. i think places like scotland and england and different places in great britain, i think you'll see a lot of activities.
the pound got high, people weren't able to do maybe what they wanted to do. but for traveling and for other things, you know, i think it could very well turn out to be a positive. nobody really knows. you'll know in about five years. you'll be able to analyze it. maybe it will take longer than that. but what is known is that they have taken back their independence. and that's a very, very important thing. katy? >> you're on the world stage. are you traveling with any of your foreign policy advisers? you knew this was going to happen today. there was some sort of a decision. are you huddling with them to find out what the best way -- >> well, i have been in touch with them. but there's nothing to talk about. you know, i have been saying that i would prefer what happened. i thought this would be a good thing. i think it will turn out to be a good thing. maybe short term not, but ultimately i think it will be a good thing. and i have actually been in touch. some by the way don't like it, some do like. advisers are like everybody else.
they probably know less -- somebody said, gee, you should use advisers that have been really hot for the last five years i said, really? i think i want to use ones that haven't been involved. take a look at what's happened in the world. go ahead, katy. >> you have had a special relation, the u.s. and the uk for quite some time right now. they're standing in the world -- the standing in the world will be diminished, their influence will be diminished. will they be the first call for you, for the u.s. -- >> i don't know, first or second call, they'll be a very powerful call. it will be a great relationship. they're great allies, they always have been. i think zero will change on that score. nothing will change on that score, katy. >>. [ inaudible question ] >> well, president obama did say i guess that they should move to the back of the line. that wouldn't happen with me. the uk has been such a great ally for so long.
they'll always be at the front of the line. they have been amazing allies. in good times and in bad times and sometimes they make mistakes together. but as we know. but they have been great allies. i will tell you, i think that i was very surprised when i heard president obama say that. and i think he said that because he thought for sure it was going to stay together. but it didn't stay together. and i felt it wouldn't stay together and again, i think that's what's happening in the united states. it's not staying together, it's a really positive force taking place. they want to take their country back. the people want their country back. we don't want to lose our jobs. we don't want to lose our borders. they want to have wage increases, they haven't -- for the numbers and all the members at turnberry, we have had hard working people who haven't had a wage increase in 18 years. they're working harder and making less money. >> the treasury secretary and
fed chairwoman said they expect this to have a negative impact on the u.s. economy. are you worried about that at all? >> they don't know. we have to see how it plays out. what i like is that i love to see people take their country back. and that's really what's happening in the united states. and i think you see that. and that's what's happening in many other places in the world. they're tired of it. they want to take their countries back. you know, this isn't such a phenomena like some people are saying. when people ask me what i thought was going to happen i thought they'd break away. and it's just turned out that way. it was a little bit surprising because the polls indicated probably that it wouldn't happen. 80%. and when i landed this morning, the first thing i asked was that, and i mean, it was fairly close. but it wasn't that close. so we'll what happens. i think it will be a good thing. you're taking your country back. you'll let people you want into your country. people that you don't want or people that you don't think will be appropriate for your country or good for your country you
won't have to take. look, europe like the united states has made tremendous mistakes over the last period of time. look at germany, look at some of the things that are happening. there are tremendous mistakes that have been made. so i think it's going to end up being a very good thing. but it will take time. tom? >> your campaign has gotten global attention. all over the world people know who donald trump is and your campaign for president. do you think anything you said in the united states influenced voters here in britain when it comes to leaving the eu? >> that's a good question. if i said yes, total influence, that's terrible. his ego is terrible, so i will never say that, tom. i'd like to give you that one but i can't say that. the question is what do i think and i gave my opinion a few times over the last few months but i said i don't want people to listen to it. because it's not me. it's about them. it's about them. it's their country. but my opinion is that what happened should have happened. and i think they'll end up being stronger for it. and they'll control their country and they'll control
everything about their country. yes? >> david cameron said that you were wrong when you proposed banning muslims from entering the u.s. do you think he got the mood of his country wrong and do you think he was right to resign? >> well, i like david cameron and he had a couple of rough statements, but that's okay. i think david cameron is a good man. he's -- he's -- he was wrong on this. he didn't get mood of his country right. he was surprised. i think he was very surprised to see what happened. but he's a good man. and he felt that way. and probably did the right thing. but we'll see what happens. but i like david cameron. yes, sir? >> do you think following your arguments about sovereignty, do you think scotland should have its independence? would you support that? >> that's up to the people of scotland. we have been through this. really again i leave it up to the people -- i love the people of scotland. that's why i built -- you know,
i built in aberdeen one of the great golf courses of the world. it was just adjudged to be the greatest course ever built new. new from 1960 to present. you know, we're very proud of it. i have gotten to know the people of scotland so well and, you know, through my mother and through everything else. the people of scotland are amazing people. and, you know, that question really has to be addressed to the people. it was a very, very close vote. i don't know that people want to go through that again. i was here when they were going through that vote. i didn't take sides but i will tell you it was a nasty period. and i can't imagine to go through that again. but the people of scotland may speak differently. yes, sir? >> just on what you said as well about europe and other countries in europe, would you support the breakup of the european union, because t happen? >> it looks like it's on its way and we'll see what happens. i can tell you i have a lot of friends living in germany that have always been very proud
germans. to a level that you wouldn't believe. they would be bragging about their country. they would be talking about their country as though there was no other place. they're members of mar-a-lago and different places that i have and now those same people -- some of them are saying they're leaving germany. they're moving. they never even thought of moving. now they're thinking about moving because of the tremendous influx of people and you know what's happening in germany. it's a real problem. and these are people that were very proud germans that were beyond belief they thought the greatests that ever was and now talking about leaving germany. you see the problems in germany. so i could see it happening. i have no opinion really, but i could certainly see it happening. i saw this happening. i could read what was happening here and i could see things happening in germany. i hope they straighten out the situation because, you know, it can really become a nasty -- it can be very nasty what's going on could be very, very nasty. building safe zones in syria, great idea.
building safe zones, magnificent, big, safe as can be. but when you're taking them into the united states by the thousands and we don't know who they are, when you're taking them into germany and other countries, look around the world to see what's happening. there's some real problems. >> it is easy for politicians to use immigration to divide electorates. how do the leaders unite people? >> you unite people by having a happy country. when people pour into the country and it doesn't work, whether it's because of crime or, you know, various other things. you're not going to be uniting anybody. i just told about you about germany,they want to leave germany. i would never said these people want to leave, but they're leaving. so you can't unite a country by forcing things down the people's throats and that's what happened
here. people are not happy. yes, sir? go ahead. >> do you intend to scale back your investments in scotland and how does it feel -- >> no, if anything, i have big investments over in europe. i have as you know i own the hotel in ireland. one of the most beautiful hotels. one of the most highly rated hotels in all of europe. it's got a golf course on this large -- almost 500 acre parcel of land on the atlantic ocean and does great. i own turnberry. i own aberdeen. i'm going to go stop at aberdeen for little while. i'll only be here one night because i have to go back and campaign which i love to do. really i wanted to support my children who have poured their hearts and souls into this development. i think you understand. yes, go ahead. >> speaking of campaigning a lot of people in the states are
saying did you really have to be here for them -- >> yeah, you know why i'm here? because i support my children. next, tom go ahead. >> -- turnberry -- >> right. >> now you're a politician. does it bug you have to pick up the phone and ask people to donate to your campaign? >> yeah, i don't like doing it. i'm an honest politician, one of the few. tom is asking does it bother me to when you're raising money -- again, i'm raising this money for the republican party. something i have never done. i have always contributed money to lots of people. a lot of campaign contributions over the years. once i ran i became an outsider. i don't like doing that, but i have done it. we have had amazing week. last week i was in houston. we had tremendous lines. i made a speech also and the lines were actually on abc they reported -- abc local, they followed the lines to highways. i have never seen that. and in dallas we had a similar thing. but we also had fund-raisers and i have -- i sit with 20 people and we talk and they all hand
you checks. bing, bing, bing. and they're checks to the rnc, the republican party. i feel i have an obligation to do that. tom, the numbers are going to e be -- i think quite staggering. especially in july. in fact, steve is here some place. he's one of the great financiers of the country. i chose him, and he wanted to do this. and the numbers are staggering. don't forget, we just sort of started this process a few weeks ago. the first filing was for a very limited period of time and it was almost before we started. and the numbers are amazing. actually, the numbers for the small donations, we have taken in a lot of money otherwise. but the numbers for the small donations are coming in at -- i mean, it's beyond anything that we thought. you know, the $25 and $50 and $100 donations. but we'll be reporting in june, but especially the july report i think will show you some pretty
massive numbers. >> mr. trump -- >> well, i did it the other day. i match, right, i put up $2 million. i say, you know, let's see who's going to go. we have raised more than 2. but i guess i offered a $2 million incentive for people to put up money. i don't know if that was the reason but we had a tremendous response to it. so -- >> mr. trump -- >> david? i know david. you don't have to -- go ahead. >> back to the brexit thing. you said that david cameron misread the mood of his country. given that president obama came over to vote remain and hillary clinton said remain and given the fact she's the former secretary of state -- >> well, she's always misread everything. no, if you think. she's misread this. i was surprised that she was so bold and to say -- well, the
only reason she did it is because obama wanted it. you know, if obama wanted the other way, if he said leave she would have said leave. she does whatever he wants her to do. now, you know why, but that's okay. we don't have to get into that. but i was actually very surprised that president obama would have come over here, he would have been so bold as to tell the people over here what to do. and i think that a lot of people don't like him. and a lot of people voted -- i think if he had not said it, i think your result might have been different. but when he said it, people were not happy about it. and i thought it was totally inappropriate. when i said what i said, i told people, i said don't do what i'm saying necessarily, do whatever you think. but this was my opinion. he came in and really tried to convince people to stay. and i thought it was inappropriate. then she doubled down and did the same thing. obviously, for the 219th time they were wrong. they're always wrong. that's the problem with them. yes, sir?
>> mr. trump, david cameron resigning today, would you back boris johnson -- >> i don't know him. i'm sure he'll be good. he got it right. so that gives him an advantage, but i don't know him. john? >> your campaign shakeup i guess it was earlier in the week, i can't remember what day it is now. we have seen a campaign that has become more focused, more disciplined, more aggressive and rapid response. you more on point i think than we have seen you in the past. is this the new you? >> i really don't think. so first of all, corey was fantastic. and we did a great job with a very small group of people. i say this to all the folks that don't come from the united states, i ran a campaign in the primaries where we got the largest number of votes in the history of the republican party, primary votes. larger than ronald reagan, larger than richard nixon up,
larger than dwight d. eisenhower and we ran a very lean campaign. i had fewer people, i spent less money and i funded the money myself. i spent what, sarah, $55 million, something -- i think it was -- but by the way, i'm forced -- you know, legally i have to pay myself back. in other words this is to support my children, if i use one of the resorts in the united states, we have a press conference or something, by law i have to pay myself back. i would like not to. i would like to say use the ballroom and let's not bother with it. but you know because a couple of people say i pay -- by law you have to pay yourself back. i think this, i think that we should have been given credit for in addition to winning for winning with less money spent and with the smallest staff. so now we have a staff of 73 people. and hillary has a staff of 900 people. i won, she won. i don't think that -- i mean, honestly as a businessman, i
say, wow, he won with spending less money and the smaller staff. i view that as an advantage. a lot of pundits say she has a much bigger staff. well, i think we're very nimble. i think we're very nimble. i think we're doing well. you have seen the polls that are coming out. they're very close and very equal. i think we had one come out from west virginia where i have a 25-point lead. north carolina came out yesterday, we have a two-point lead. ohio is even, pennsylvania is even. the national polls are getting very close. and i'm spending much less money. she's spending tremendous amounts of money. we haven't even started yet. so it will be very interesting because she spent what was it, $28 million. she spentsd a lot of -- spent a lot of money and we're even. i think that's a good sign. when i won new hampshire i spent a tiny fraction of what other candidates spent. i won by a landslide that person came in seventh. i think you know when you can do it on a smaller budget and with
fewer people, that's the kind of person they want to be the president. because to me, that's a big thing. yeah, go ahead, sarah. >> seven in ten voters told us in the cnn polls they want to see you cut ties with your business -- >> i will do that. >> will you do that? >> while you're running though? >> i will do that. well, i don't think it matters while i'm running. it doesn't matter. again i'm here for the sole reason although i did want to see the job that eric did, because if he didn't do a good job he wouldn't be standing here right now. i would give him hard time. he did a beyond job. beyond. this is phenomenal. just as you view this great course, you have to see the hotel that we build. it's phenomenal. but no, i will absolutely cut ties. you know, the rules are -- nobody know, okay? it's never happened where this somebody had this big of a business and runs for president and wins. even though i don't have to do that, i will put everything in trust. my children will run it along
with my executives. it's a big company. my children will run it along with my executives and just do a good job of running it. let me tell you the importance of the opportunity that i may be given is so important and so massive. making great trade deals with china and with you folks by the way, but with china, the numbers are so staggering. when you look at trade deficits of 4 and $500 billion a year, the numbers are so staggering and so incredible. i wouldn't even be thinking about the business. i mean, who cares? i mean i would say who cares? no, i would absolutely -- you don't have to do this, but i would most likely put it in a blind trust and they would run it or something. >> well, i think this is the ninth trump property we have visited during your presidential campaign. why do you continue to have events -- >> this is my property -- number one, i have the best properties. okay, you can they. i will say a lot of the press
will say, whether you like him or not, he has the best properties. the other thing, why should i use somebody else's properties? number one, they're not as good and number two, one of those things. i wish frankly i wasn't forced by law to pay myself back. we're forced to pay -- you do understand that, sarah. a couple of people say he's paying to his campaign i'm not paying to my campaign. i'm forced by whatever the fair market value of a ballroom is, or an airplane, if i use a plain i have to pay it back. >> a long standing tradition in american politics that politics stops at the water's edge and given your comments about president obama this morning you don't seem to buy into that. >> well, he didn't stop at the water's edge because he made statements about this incredible part of the world. and this particular country and
frankly a large group of countries should do. i mean, he's constantly dictating to the world what they should do. the world doesn't listen to him. obviously, you can see that by the vote. but he's constantly dictating to other countries so, you know, certainly it doesn't stop at the water's edge with him. you know, very importantly, he got it totally wrong. he's embarrassed. he's embarrassed by the supreme court decision yesterday which was a real rebuke and he's very embarrassed by he got involved, i don't know if that was through a friendship with david cameron, i can understand friendship and i can understand why he did it. but i think it's something he shouldn't have done. it's not his country. it's not his part of the world. he shouldn't have done it. i think his recommendation perhaps caused it to fail. okay. one more, one more question. yes? >> how much do you think the brexit vote is about economic issues you have been hammering home, like low wages and lack of growth in the economy?
>> i think a lot of is, but i think a lot is borders and immigration. i have spoken. i have hundreds of members sitting in the back and i have spoken to them. they're not happy with the people flowing into the country. they don't want that to happen. and i think that has a lot to do with it. i think the borders -- you know, not so different. amazing the world is not so different. we're on the other side of the ocean, but it's not so different. way over there, many, many miles right in that direction. and to be honest with you, i think a lot of it has to do with immigration. but i also think a lot of it has to do with the fact that they wanted to be independent. they got tired of seeing stupid decisions just like the american people are tired of seeing stupid decisions. whether it's the iran deal, whether it's the border, where people just flow across the border like swiss cheese. they are tired of seeing stupid decisions made. they're tired of looking at horrible trade deals, and you have bad trade deals here too.
i think that has a lot to do with it. >> well, i think the brexit deal -- i think when you talk about leave, you know, i felt again knowing the people here very well, but not wanting to get involved, but i felt that was going to happen. i felt it was going to happen. and there is great similarities between what happened here and my campaign. yeah, people want to take their country back. okay, maybe one more question. [ inaudible ]. >> by the way, they said there were 2,000 protesters and we counted them, 43. 43 they're way over there. the police did a great job. but it was nothing much to do, frankly. there were 43. just on the record. because we heard there were going to be thousands of protesters. 43. and my members are very happy with donald trump i can tell you. is that a correct statement? [ applause ] they love donald trump.
so, no, they love what we have done here. you know, this is a little bit what we'll do to the united states. you know, the united states has rotted infrastructure. we have roads that are crumbling. i have a friend who's a trucker, big trucker, one of the biggest in the world actually. he said he buys these brand-new magnificent trucks that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. and he's never had this problem before. they're just getting destroyed because the highways are loaded up with potholes. when you have an 18-wheeler or a 16-wheeler and you have these big, massive trucks and they're being -- going down the highway at 65 miles an hour, and they hit a pothole and they're loaded up with tons of stuff, he said those trucks no matter how good they are, they get wiped out. that's what's happening to our country. and thing is sort of a miniexample of what we have done here. the members love us. scotland loves us for what we have done. the council -- our council member here, do we have our council members here? yes. the council has been so incredible and, you know, it's
just been a big love fest. what we do is the united states needs its infrastructure fixed. the bridges are a disaster, the roads are a disaster. my friend told me, he's never had a problem like this before. he said, you go down the highways and a brand-new truck that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, virtually destroyed. they have to bring it back and have it rehauled because they're hitting potholes all over the place on the highways. our infrastructure is crumbling in the united states. we spent probably if you add it up now $4 trillion, maybe more than in in the middle east. we have a problem. >> the country is not a golf course. >> no, it's not. you'd be amazed at how similar it is, it's a place that needs to be fixed. there's nobody that knows how to fix or build like me. you look very good on television last night. i saw you in the dark with the sign behind you and you were even fairly nice.
okay. yes. how about these two. sarah, go ahead. go ahead. >> given whatsaid, this is the ninth property we have been to. tomorrow will be the tenth property. >> right, katy. >> you've faced a lot of criticism out there from people saying that your motivations are really about your brand. >> no. i don't care. i don't care. it's about my brand, i wouldn't have done this. >> what is your rebuttal? >> if it was about my brand i would haven't done this. i have given up a lot. i have given up "the apprentice." steve burke wanted me to do years more of it. i had to give it up because you're not allowed to do with this equal time laws and provisions and you're not allowed to do it. i lost certain things, especially early on. i lost macy's, you know i'm glad to see that macy's stock tanked because they were very disloyal. but just over the subject of illegal immigration, i lost macy's as a -- you know, as a vendor for ties and shirts and things. not a big deal, but it was still -- it was a loss. no, this is not for brand. if i wanted to do good for my brand i wouldn't have done this. because, you know, when you --
one thing about politics. everybody liked me but once you run for politics you'll have 55 for you, 45 against. i never had that before. my wife said to me, you know i never heard this before. there was some crowd -- some of the crowd was a little hostile. i have been with you for many years and the crowd always loved you. half the crowd loves you now and half hates you. that's politics. if you get 55% of the vote that's a landslide. that means that 45% of the people don't like you. so for my brand, this has not been a good thing. although, you know, look where we've come. we were one of 17 and we won. we won. i think we'll go much further than that. >> mr. trump, how tough can you beat -- can you beat eric on it? >> this is a tough course. i won't be able to beat eric, he hits it by a mile.
i think my days are numbered as far as beating eric. one more question. >> you gave a speech -- >> what do you make of the commentators and the media outlets that say that vladimir putin and you are the chief benefactors of brexit? >> that putin and me are the chief -- i don't know about that i know that i think he would be probably because i know how he's been scorned by certain -- to a certain extent. certainly he's not a person that likes our president very much. and our president doesn't like him very much. he said some very nice things about me. i think he probably is somewhat of a beneficiary and we'll just see how it works out. i think it's going to end up being a great thing and the beautiful, beautiful, beautiful thing is your people have taken the country back. and there's something very, very nice about this. and they voted and it's been peaceful.
and it was strong and very contentious and in many respects i watched last night. it was a little bit ugly, but it's an amazing process to watch. a big move. you know, when i came here, i said who's going to come out here? it turned out that probably more people came out here. a tremendous turnout. >> -- who did not show up today, specifically -- >> what? >> you invited a lot of local politicians here today. >> i did. no, we have everybody, we have the entire town council -- excuse me, we have the entire town council. i have no idea. i have no idea. i have no idea. anybody else? >> mr. trump -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> you said it was a love fest, on that point, david cameron said he didn't want to meet you. >> where's david cameron right now? david cameron, no, excuse me. david cameron would have met me. david cameron was negotiating to meet me.
but right now i don't think david cameron wants to meet anybody. katy, did you have one other thing? >> -- labor party, they regard you as toxic. >> no, i think what happened -- nasty, nasty guy. i think we have a -- i think we have something that people really respect what i did. i took one of the great assets of scotland, and brought it back to a level that it's never even seen. as great as turnberry has been over the years and it's been one of the greats of the world it's now at a higher level than it's ever been. never seen these levels before. so we're very proud of it. one more, katy, go ahead. >> -- to be an endorsement of your immigration policies or ideas and extreme rhetoric when it comes to building a wall, or banning muslims from coming into america. are you going to continue on a with that? >> well, it's moving along. all i do is i do the right thing. i mean, i'm doing what's right for our country. obviously it resonates because i have a tremendous number of
backers and support. say it again. >> is today's vote here an indicator that your rhetoric and your extreme rhetoric is something -- >> i don't know. i don't think i have extreme rhetoric actually. i don't know, katy, i think t t that -- i think that what happened, i was watching some of the commentators before and a lot of them were saying that. i'm not sure it matters from my standpoint. but i think it does show something about the people wanting their country back and i can tell you in the united states the people want their country back. in the united states people want smart decisions. not dumb decisions. and we have been given dumb decisions for many years and the people are tired of it. and i have a feeling the same thing has happened over here and that's why you had the result that you had. i love you all, thank you very much and thank you to my members and thank you to the council. the council has been amazing and thank you for all being here.
thank you. thank you. thank you, sarah. thank you. >> there you have donald trump, you know, he was only going to take one more question, one more question. there were 15 one more questions but tell you what, we just heard -- wait, no. is he listening to me? here's the thing. there he is, trump turnberry in scotland and he's reacting to the fact that the country of england voted overnight to leave the european union. in great britain, the headlines are black friday. he said -- donald trump did, regarding this, it's purely historic. he said there are parallels with the united states. he said the people have taken their country back. for reaction let's go to stuart varney who has dual citizenship. stuart, donald trump just spoke for about 48 minutes. he was remarkably on message and his message was strong. >> looks like the new donald trump.
you're right. he was very much on point. he wasn't outrageous, he was measured in his tone, he handled the media extremely well. you're right, the thing that he came back to contemplate was the parallel between the vote yesterday in britain and the issues they voted on, and the vote that's coming up in november. bottom line to me at least as an observer as this, trump won, hillary lost. by association with the issues discussed over there. >> regarding hillary, she had come out with the president of the united states saying that england should remain in the european union but the people of england said no, we'll get out. he said of hillary she misread everything. she supported staying because barack obama wanted her to. he said he was surprised obama came to england to tell people what to do. if he hadn't done that, maybe they would have vote the other way. >> mr. trump drew a sharp contrast between himself, he said i leave it up to you.
made a point of that. there was a contrast between what he said and what the president had said and done when he went to britain a couple of months ago said hey, if you leave europe you can get back of the line. he said actually back of the queue. in order, get to the back of the line when it comes to negotiating new trade deals certainly with america. so there's a sharp contrast between the way that donald trump handled what he thought about the vote and what the president had done about the vote a couple of months ago. >> you heard tony blair with us right before trump started answering the questions. and then someone asked him how should these leaders who wanted to stay, how should they respond, he said they'll have to embrace it. you can't help but think about hillary clinton and the democrats that don't like donald trump. if he does win here in the u.s., is that the message for the rest of our country? >> i would predict that the left goes on a rant about how donald trump and the people who voted to leave in britain are haters. not uniters. but dividers and haters.
i think that will be the line of the left as we go towards november. >> and donald trump said you can't unite people by ramming things down their throat. he mentioned that david cameron didn't get the mood of his country right. how out of touch are the elites in the uk compared to here? >> they did not see it coming and again there's a parallel between the elites there and the elites here. they're all opposed to donald trump. they were all in favor of the brits staying in europe. they read it completely wrong. got it wrong. >> i think a lot of people did. you think of britain and think of how they love tradition and don't like the change. were you shocked by this? >> i was shocked by the margin of victory. nearly four points for the leave camp. i didn't think it would be that big and i'm surprised. the elites have piled on. if you do this, the sky will fall. you'll have a recession. even one newspaper said there will be a war. >> sure. >> well, you know, that's lot of pressure the british resisted that pressure and voted to leave anyway. >> they absolutely did. looking at donald trump, he's
making his way back to his golf course which got a trillion dollars worth of great publicity in the last press event. at one point, a member of the world press asked, do you have to be here at turnberry because, you know, you have a presidential thing going on in the united states? and he said, yes, because i'm going to -- i need to support my kids. then regarding the fact that the latest fec filings have shown that hillary has outdone him in the raising money department, he responded that the reporting period was very short. maybe even before he started taking donations. he said that so far, donations have been coming in beyond what they thought. he said the july number is going to be massive. >> a lot of people have said that him going over there this particular time in the middle of the campaign, that was a mistake. >> yeah. >> wrong. it was a good move. >> many people are wondering if that's money that folks were supporting bernie and now giving the small donations to trump.
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country again. so i think you'll have this happen more and more. i really believe that. i think it's happening in the united states. it's happening by the fact that i have done so well in the polls. >> there you've got, donald trump he ended a one-hour press event. largely initially to promote his new golf course in turnberry, scotland, but his message what happened in great britain, this is seismic, they're calling it a black friday over there, it's got parallels to the united states. we have got judge jeanine pirro with us this morning and peter johnson jr. with some reaction. what do you think? ladies first. >> they're calling it independence day, june 23rd. this is huge, 72% of the brits voted. and they voted to leave. so what does it mean? what it means is that people want a nation state. they want to have their own identity. >> they want some borders. >> they want what, borders, right. of course they want borders and they want to identify as a country. so, you know, when cameron was
against it and obama was against it, i think that this finally is something that is a bellwether of what's going to happen in this country. people are fed up with people invading their countries. angela merkel invading all the immigrants in and i think she said this was not a great day and, you know, people are now saying it's a vindication of a thousand years of british democracy. it bodes well for that's going on in this country. and, you know, the fact that people want to be their own identity. >> sure. donald trump thought -- he even said there are so many similarities. so many parallels to what's happening there and what's happening here. >> i think trumpism is global. so we see sovereignties as important, nationalism as important. we will see a shakeout though in terms of the markets big time. bank stocks are down. generally stocks are down. the markets are going to open much lower here in the united states. it could be a tremendous hit. but at the same time, throughout
europe, denmark, austria, netherlands, france, there are right wing movements that are saying we need to follow what they did. at the same time, scotland as you guys pointed out earlier this morning, they may break out of the united kingdom and go back to the european union. this is going to break out over the next couple of years in ways that we will not understand. the problem we have in terms of the markets though, is that there's not a lot of movement. so we'll see that with any kind of little political shakeup like this, the markets are going to move big because there's not a lot of room in terms of interest rates to get it right. >> judge, they always say the sky is falling, the trade is over. we're pushed aside from europe. is that going to happen or will that -- >> well, what peter says is right. there's uncertainty right now in the markets. you know, they're going to have to renegotiate their trade deals. but what i think is interesting is obama says if they do this,
if they break from the eu they go back to the back of the line. no. they have been allies of ours since we broke from them. what we have right now, come ran said i'm leaving in october, i'm not going to trigger article which breaks them from the european union which is a bloc of 27 nations. he is saying i'll it to my successor to do it. he's going to go out kicking and screaming but you know what, shame on him. you need to listen to the people. around the world, people are not happy. >> you know, peter jonss, it's establishment versus the insur gents -- insur gents like here in this country. you have hillary clinton and you have a man saying we have to change. >> to take it back in a step in the places you have been -- the places that you have fought, pete, a lot of this is because of the rise of islamic extremism. >> sure. >> because of the refugee issue as a result of terror being
dominant in the mideast. a lot of people in this country trace that back to barack obama and hillary clinton as secretary of state. there's a direct relationship between the rise in sovereignty, this nationalistic fervor and the fact that people want to break away to start anew again. especially with this influx of people who are terrified that they're going to be terrorists. >> it's interesting to see -- >> you know what's telling that hillary clinton as of this moment has not said anything. >> that's right. >> what can she say? >> calling in and saying what do we do now? this is not good for me. >> she'll moderate it today and going forward. in two weeks you will believe she was for it. >> well, it's friday. people will be talking about it this weekend. see what the polls say. >> pirro and peter, thank you very much. all right. straight ahead, sorry, president obama, the supreme court has struck down his controversial immigration order. we'll tell you what that means coming up shortly.
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well, great britain has voted to exit the european union. they're calling it independence day over there. as its turns out a brand-new movie opens today, a sequel to the movie 20 years ago. kevin mccarthy, author of nerdtears.com. >> this is not marketing. brilliantly planned marketing.
i spent $22 watching it in new york imax 3-2. when i was 12 years i went to the first "independence day." it blew my mind t special effects were incredible. the second one has some good action scenes. the problem is, no will smith. and the will smith character is not in this film. you feel him being missed. they mention him, see pictures and portraits of him. the script is painfully bad at times unfortunately. here's the problem. i don't mind a bad script in the action movie but sometimes if they're forcing it too much. >> how many stars? >> i gave it a 2.5 out of 5. skip the imax 3-d. overall, they tried to force it -- >> why wasn't he in it? >> there are a bunch of different reasons, i don't know the official one. he didn't want to do a sci-fi one. >> this is not the sequel to "jaws" but "the shallows" is out there. a shark movie. >> yeah, blake lively got
injured and hit her nose. watch this. >> the buoy falls down, and i cracked my face. i swim into the buoy and i have this bloody nose. that was real. that wasn't planned. >> so real bloody nose? >> real bloody nose. real crack. that was really -- i mean, that was really, really awful and scary. but when i came up, i thought i'm going to pass out right now, or i'm going to continue the scene and i'm going to be so awesome and proud and just show the people what i have done. i didn't pass out, thankfully. you get hurt like that, you want it to show. >> they kept it in the movie. that was cool. >> yeah. >> her husband is in one of the best movies of the year "dead pool", ryan reynolds. it has the scary quality. my stomach was in knots. >> something to see. >> i love it. >> thank you.
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people want to take their country back and they want to have independence in a sense and you see it with europe. all over europe. you'll have more than just in my opinion more than just what happened last night. you're going to have i think many other cases where they want to take their borders back. they want to take their monetary back. they want to take a lot of things back. they want to be able to have a country again. so i think you're going to have this happen more and more. i really believe that. i think it's happening in the united states. it's happening by the fact that i have done so well in the polls. >> that's donald trump speaking in turnberry, scotland, at his golf course there. he was there talking about the
opening of the golf course and the vote came down this morning or last night i should say, while we were all sleeping. europe is changing. the brits have decided to pull away from the eu and as a result -- >> after 40 some years. >> exactly. so a lot of changes here. the will of the people, they have heard the will of the people. the people have spoken. 51.9% voted to leave. david cameron as a result, because he didn't want to leave, he came out this morning and said he is resigning. will stay in office for the next three months. so that they can find a new leader. >> this is truly historic and monumental. as the vote became clear they were going to leave, you realize after 59 year, 27 countries really a continent that had united. britain said we want our sovereignty back. we want our freedom back, we want our independence back and the elites got it all wrong. they thought they'd remain but the will of the people, the people there in the uk said we want our freedom back. we want our independence back. >> so when trump went to
turnberry a number of republican strategist said you're out of your mind to go, because there's this big vote. yesterday at this time, it looked like they were going to they. then as it turn out the pollsters got it wrong. and the one -- one of the few foreign luminaries on the winning side was donald trump because donald trump said you know what, i think they should probably leave. barack obama said stay. hillary clinton said stay. interestingly enough we have still not heard from hillary. it will be interesting how she attenuates that message that she got that wrong. regarding the will of the people. so when donald trump was there at turnberry this morning, just about an hour and a half ago, to talk about the new golf course, everybody wanted to hear about how he felt there were parallels between what's happening there and what's happening here and he did not disappoint. here's donald trump in scotland on the eu vote. >> you have to embrace it, it's the will of people. not a question of approaching it. it's the will of the people.
it's always the will of the people. that wins out. nobody knows, you'll know in about five years. you'll be able to analyze it and maybe it will take longer that than. but what is known is that they have taken back their independence. and that's a very, very important thing. look, i really think the boards -- you know, not so different. maizing the world is not so different. we're on the other side of the ocean, right over there, you go, many, many miles right in that direction. and to be honest with you, i think a lot of it has to do with immigration but i also think a lot has to do with the fact that they wanted to be independent. they got tired of seeing stupid decisions, just like the american people are tired of seeing stupid decisions. whether it's the iran deal, whether it's the border, where people just flow across the border like swiss cheese. they're tired of seeing stupid decisions. she's always misread everything. if you think, she's misread this. i was surprised that she was so
bold and to say -- well, the only reason she did it is because obama wanted it. if obama wanted it the other way, if he said leave, she would say leave. he does whatever he wants her to do now you know why, but that's okay. we don't have to get into that. but i was surprised that president obama would come over here and tell the people over here what to do. and i think a lot of people don't like him and i think if he had not said it, your result might have been different. but he said it, people were not m happy about it. when i said what i said, i said don't do what i'm saying necessarily. do whatever you think. but this was just my opinion. he came in and really tried to convince people to stay. and i thought it was inappropriate and then she doubled down and she did the same thing and obviously for the 219th time they were wrong. they're always wrong. that's the problem with them.
>> there you go, donald trump referring to the president of the united states and hillary clinton who both said that england should remain and yet the people of england said we're going to leave the european union. look who's on the couch today. >> hi, stevie. >> what do you think? >> i went to bed thinking they were going to stay and to remain and they are not. yet, you know, you think of these -- good morning, everybody. you think of these first of all, like the stone in the pond and the ripple effect. you think first of all how does it affect me? i think they'll lose a ton of money in 55 minutes. >> it will come back. >> it should come back. i'm not selling. but it will be -- it will be a real shock to the world financial system. it already is in europe and the market here will be down 500 or 600 points. having said that -- also it is stunning to me to see trump put the blame on president obama. he says president obama is responsible. but what really is the headline in my view is -- check out your sock there.
>> can we get a close-up? catch geraldo rivera's eye -- >> i love that. geraldo is in the middle of deep thought. >> union jack -- >> you remind me that what the implications of this, people have to understand that northern ireland wanted to stay in europe because the rest of ireland is in europe. northern ireland which famously is part of the united kingdom and fought and these troubles, is northern ireland going to say i'm staying with ireland, i'm not staying with england, i'm irish. ireland staying and the same thing with scotland. we had a vote, scotland was going to leave. they defeated that referendum, scottish independence, is scotland going to leave? are we watching the dismemberment of the united kingdom? >> if they work in southern ireland, there's a big chunk
that do, and they have to go through customs. >> that's right. going back to what i said about politics here, the immigration issue as i have discovered here at fox and on this couch and elsewhere in this building and in my travels around the country is a potent issue. it is something that makes people crazy to the extent of almost all other issues. it's not about the economy, it's not about national defense or space or cyber. it is about immigration and borders and people are so absolutely obsessed with it. that you saw the results over here. >> you have a sovereign nation without a border. >> i'm not here to debate you. >> people like the idea of a wall. >> i'm merely pointing out the potency of this issue. donald trump, i don't know if he was in scotland just by chance, i don't know. it was brilliant. he was in the right place at the right time to make that message the central message i submit of his campaign. to emphasize that the people of england, the white, middle class
people of england have said enough with the refugees. 300,000 last year, how many next year, we have no control over the borders so they voted to leave the eu. right, all of that. they voted to leave the eu, what implications does that have in the u.s. election? man oh, man, i don't know, fasten your seat belts. >> they found that the eu had become a trojan horse and imposes more control. their lost their sovereignty. isn't this a rejection of the elites and the internationalists and we're citizens of the world and our own country? >> like richard branson. everyone thinks he's so cool, virgin airlines. i said, wow, i'm like with branson. i'm sort of a modern guy. i want the world to evolve. but now i see this is an absolute rejection of that evolutionary track. this is for borders, this is for walls, this is for the traditional english channel moat that separated the united
kingdom from the rest of europe. i heard one all-time british guy saying, god gave us this moat. why do we spend all our energy trying to fill it in and destroy our separation from here? >> geraldo, one of the reporters asked donald trump, do you think you take credit for this, i said, if i answer that, then i will be called egotistical. is this the new donald trump? >> no, because he answered it by not answering it. you note he's bursting at the seams for people like me to say i credit trump. >> maybe a few weeks ago, he would have said absolutely. but now -- you know, his message has changed. >> i think you may be bending over backwards to try to give him some political acumen i'm not sure he deserves but he was definitely in the right place at the right time. he was right on point. he -- his campaign totally taps into the emotion that led to this profound rejudgment in europe. >> he got 20 minutes in primetime to talk about his golf
course. >> his properties are fabulous. the guy does have the best properties on earth. >> geraldo, thank you very much. >> my measure. >> for more headlines out there, we have heather nauert. >> good morning. i hope you're off to a great day. a couple headlines, we start with a fox news alert. this has happened once again, two deputies shot in california. the manhunt is now intensifying to find out who did it. shots rang out, this happened outside of los angeles. the officers were manning a dui check point when the gunman who was inside a car then started firing. that suspect took off and then a few minutes later another shoot-out went down. both officers are expected to survive thankfully. well, waiting for justice for five years now. a trial date finally set for one of the alleged master minds behind the benghazi terror attack that left four of our americans dead. khattala will go before the judge in 2017. attorney general loretta lynch not seeking the death penalty
for the attack on the u.s. consulate. another grim discovery to tell you about this morning in that urgent search for the family lost at sea off the coast of florida. rescue teams now announcing that they discovered a second body off the florida's gulf coast. ace kimberly and three teenage children were sailing from sarasota to ft. meyers when they ran into rough waters. rescuers found 17-year-old rebecca kimberly's body, but they have yet to identify the second body. some incredible video following intense flooding taking place in west virginia. take a look at this. well, folks stand big shooting that video as a burning house -- that's actually what you're seeing as it floats down a creek. this happened in white sulfur springs. there's a search under way right now for a 4-year-old boy in ravenswood, west virginia. he was carried away by the
strong currents as he was playing nearby. an 8-year-old was killed in the flooding. a rescue effort is under way to get 500 people out who were trapped in the mall. a bridge collapsed. a dangerous situation in west virginia. we're continuing to watch it. >> thank you very much. meanwhile, the brexit bombshell has since -- has the global markets into a tail spin. the market opens just in about 100 minutes. what does it mean for your wallet? the results shocked everybody except stuart varney. he will tell us what to expect today. that's right. another major bombshell, president obama's immigration policies are illegal according to the supreme court. so what happens with those millions of illegals that are hiding from deportation? you wouldn't believe what's in this kiester. a farmer's market. a fire truck.
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people want to take their country back. and they want to have independence in the sense and you see it with europe all over europe. you'll have more than just in my opinion, more than just what happened last night. you're going of have i think many other cases where they want
to take their borders back. they want to take their monetary back. they want to take a lot of things back. they want a country again. so i think you're going to have this happen more and more. i really believe that. i think it's happening in the united states. it's happening by the fact that i have done so well in the polls. >> there you have donald trump within the last hour at his golf course in scotland, weighing in on the united kingdom's decision to break away from the european union after 40 some odd years. >> that's right. stuart varney, he will be on the fox business network shortly. he's here right now. >> donald trump is talking about the brits opening up the door for europe to break up. the european union, it's going to change. dramatically. that's why you've got the stock markets so far down today. because you have this uncertainty about what's going to happen in the wake of the brexit deal. and we're going to be down about
500 points on the dow jones industrial average that's a forecast i can willingly make, we'll go down 500 points. after that -- >> don't look at your 401(k), it could be down a couple of hundred bucks out of the gates. how long do you see this uncertain -- >> i have seen the sudden sharp sell-offs once every couple of years. at some point, it comes back. so the advice to the small investor is usually unless you think it's going to be down forever, don't sell now. don't panic. just look at what's going on. i'll tell you something more. there will be people out there today who are look for bargains, looking to buy. if they see some of the big-name technology stocks beaten down three or four percentage points you might see -- >> i know tourism is a big deal in london. i was reading that the average american spends $4,500 when they
go over on their trips. what does this mean though? the pound is down, so this is a good time to go, right? >> this is a bargain for people with american dollars going to england. yesterday at this time, the british pound was worth $1.50. today, right now, 24 hours later, it's worth $1.34. this is a huge drop in the value of the pound and the huge jump in the value of your dollars when you go over there. >> are you saying that the british pound is getting pounded? >> very funny. that's the weakest i ever heard. >> i thought it was good. >> thank you. it was a sterling joke. stuart, we'll watch you over on fox business. 41 minutes from now. meanwhile, trump said the brexit vote shows the brits are serious about securing their borders. could the change -- could that change the controversial refugee immigration movement? tavis smiley has written another book and he'll join us and weigh in on that next. good morning, tavis. let's talk about hot dog. the temperature inside that car -- oh, my gosh, 160 degrees.
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the supreme court making some major headlines this morning. the justices delivering a massive plow to the president's executive action on immigration. the court blocked his plan to shield 5 million immigras in this country from deportation. the split decision, delivering a win to 25 of the states that are challenging obama's immigration executive action. and the high court also putting new rules on dui
suspects who refuse alcohol tests. drivers can now face criminal charges if you refuse that test. however, police need a search warrant to make you the driver take it. that's not you, because you shouldn't be drinking and driving. finally, affirmative action policies to remain in effect at texas. meaning it's still okay to consider race when it comes to students' admissions. overnight, a historic vote, the united kingdom deciding to bow out of the european union, they brexited, they're out. donald trump said a lot of the issues that spurred the decision are the same as we see here in the united states. take a listen. >> i really think the borders, you know, it's not so different. it's amazing the way that the world is not so different. amazing we're on the other side of the ocean. right over there, you go many, many miles right in that direction and to be honest with you, i think a lot of it has to do with immigration. but i also think has to do with the fact that they wanted to be
independent. they got tired of seeing stupid decisions, just like the american people are tired of seeing stupid decisions. whether it's the iran deal, whether it's the border, where people just flow across the border like swiss cheese. they are tired of seeing stupid decisions. >> there you go. that's over there in turnberry, scotland. here to react is tv talk show host, tavis smiley. he has a new book out. so donald trump says the reason the people of england voted to get out of the european union, they wanted to take their country back. borders are important. they didn't like what's going on with social security over there. with unemployment. of course with immigration. >> to be sure there's anger and frustration but that doesn't mean that you appeal to the worst elements in people to respond to that frustration. >> that do you mean? >> i think that the rise of racial campaigns around the world including this country is
troubling. there clearly was fear mongering. david cameron made a sharp turn to the right last year that put his future in jeopardy. obviously his resignation and puts the future of the country in jeopardy. we live in a global world and if you think that you can isolate yourself on an island you'll find yourself very lonely and bankrupt bankrupt. >> and meanwhile, they have seen the refugees and we have seen it triggered by infiltration of isis. what does it have to do with race if you're talking about securing your country? that's so much of what has sparked fears here and in the uk? >> i understand the frustration and yet cameron through immigrants dun under the -- under the bus. >> he was for remain. >> yeah, last year he tried to make his case through the -- he threw the immigrants under the bus. he tried to tie them mayoral candidate now mayor to fear
mongering. it obviously backfired. >> tavis, we're talking this morning, hearing donald trump talk about the parallels between what's happening there and here. if you go to social media one person on twitter, brexit is further proof that donald j. trump will be the next president of the united states. if you think trump can't win, you're lazy, complacent and very dangerous. >> i'm not a trump supporter, but i will to be first to admit that's the first thought i had this morning. that it underscores for me, not that it means that donald will win, but fear works. donald is playing fear works. when you scare people about what the future can be, fear always works and so first thought i had was that if worked in england it might work in this country. >> we have an immigration crisis in this country. there are millions of people who did not sign the guest book and
he's said he's for immigration -- legal immigration. you have a brand-new book out called "before you judge me: the triumph and tragedy of michael jackson's last days." tavis just told me that today marks seven years -- >> tomorrow, saturday. >> >> tomorrow. that was fast, since michael jackson died. >> that was quick. i was a fan of michael, and the die that he died i was gob smacked because i had purchased my concert tickets and the plane tickets to go to london and i wanted to know what happened. this it is, one more time, 16 weeks later you're dead. my ultimate question, why are you gone so soon? that was my question, steve. i got into the research. and what i realized was that my question was the wrong question. it wasn't why are you gone so soon, it was how do you survive this long? when i saw all that was going on in his world in the last 16 weeks i don't know how he made it. >> we have heard stories, but did you uncover -- >> i think so. this prop apill that you take to
take at night to go to sleep, you have the managers -- he's changing managers like changing socks. his father has him under pressure to cancel the o-2 concerts and the reunion tour with his brother. so much going on in his world it's no wonder he could. shut it off at night. it is sad. >> what are the lessons for all of us when you learn about the research because you talk about his father. >> sure. >> many of us are parents. what's the lesson you learned? >> number one, be careful what you ask for. number two, greed kills. michael made a lot of bad decisions to be sure, but people got their claws into him and that's a problem. i'm wondering now whether or not i believe anymore in child actors, in child performers. >> why? >> when you put them in that position so early on it's a very, very difficult road to hoe. i'm praying every day for his daughter paris now. you can see publicly the turmoil
and the drama and the pain that she's going through. >> at that age, yeah -- >> absolutely. it's tough. >> brand-new book "before you judge me", check it out. >> congratulations on the book, tavis. >> on this friday, the police officer at the center of the freddie gray case just found not guilty of his murder. the next question, should the state attorney general step down? >> marilyn mosby ought to have the intestinal fortitude to go before the judge tomorrow and say, remove the charges that i put forth and let the city of baltimore move forward. >> what is the next thing for the other officers facing charges? the answer straight ahead. medical mistake news the third leading cause of death in america. >> wow. >> in 60 days of being a nurse i saw a patient killed by a medication error. >> wow. how could that be? our own bill hemmer investigates. and he joins us next.
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prime minister to steady the ship over the coming weeks and months. but i do not think it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination. >> well, all of the media and intelligentsia got the vote wrong and when it went the wrong way, he resigned, but trump was in favor of the leave vote previously. to react -- he's reacting to this news from scotland, he said it's a great thing that the people have their country back. >> well, i like david cameron. he had a couple of rough statements but that's okay. i think he's a good man. i think he -- he was wrong on this. he didn't get the mood of his country right. i think he was surprised to see what happened. i think he probably did the
right thing, but we'll see what happens. >> here to analyze from "america's newsroom" bill hemmer. >> are the planets aligned this way? scotla trump announced he'd be in scott land and it goes the same way -- what is going on around here? >> republican strategists said that trump is out of his mind to leave during this vote. he shows up, of course, and said we were talking earlier, the polls got it 180 degrees wrong. suddenly when trump took the podium at his golf course in scotland he looked like a genius. because he had said -- >> a genius or a luck or a little bit of both? pretty extraordinary he was in the right place at the right time. the other thing that's happening right now, at least in europe they carry trump's press conference live so here you have a guy who looks like the brother of boris johnson, who shows up in a white hat that says make america great again. i don't think even a great publicist and marketer like he is could have expected something like this to go in his favor. wow. >> it's -- there's so many parallels. boris johnson, you mentioned
him, people are saying he looks like donald trump. he acts like donald trump. he was the former governor of london and now what's in charge of this party that's decided to leave. even his own dad, daughter. they were wearing stay t-shirts throughout the night and yesterday. they weren't for this. >> they were a little split. divided households. now we'll see what scotland does. they'll push for independence yet again. i believe what's happening in a 52-48 vote is that the people throughout the uk were sick and tired of brussels telling them what they had to do. >> of course. >> because they have to follow the decision and ultimately pay for it. i think that's the reaction. >> indeed. >> let's talk about your big special. >> yeah, you have a big special coming out. >> we have a documentary that a great team here at fox -- we fanned out all across the country to figure out medical errors in america. and what you as a patient need to know. there was a study, dr. marty macri out of johns hopkins
medical center he believes that medical errors in america is the third leading cause of death. >> what? third? >> that's what we thought. behind cancer and heart disease. we wanted to find out whether or not his study was legitimate. there were a lot of people that disagree with that finding. but he believes the lack of transparency is what is to blame here. he's trying to do something about it. there are people -- when you start talking about this story, everyone has a story of their own. whether it's their own individual case or whether it's something that happened to them over a family member. or a friend. everybody has a story. including this one from the middle of the country. >> within 60 days of being a nurse i saw a patient killed by a medication error. >> tell me what happened. that must have been such a shock to you. you're fresh out of school, you keir on the job, excited for your new career? >> worse than that, i discovered the medical error. >> there's so critical. >> you're going to leave with us that? we want to know. >> we're all human beings and
there's no ill intent here on behalf of doctors or nurses or pharmacists. they're human beings also. a lot of them working a lot of hours. but, you know, one misreading on the prescription can change everything. we met a family in ohio whose daughter was given the wrong medication and she died as a result of it. we'll present the other side, to find out whether or not this is a legitimate claim. ultimately, i believe the take away will be this. what do you as a patient need to be armed with in terms of information when you go to the doctor or the hospital. 8:00 we premiere on saturday night. one last thing, you get on the plane, you talk to the pilot, trust him to get you there safely. same thing with the doctor. you're trusting that medical technician to -- >> to save your life in some cases. >> but to literally go inside your body and you trust them,
what is more intimate than that? >> you convinced me to watch. >> saturday night. >> we'll be watching you in 20 minutes by the way. >> we'll watch heather nauert deliver some headlines. there's more proof that hillary clinton not so good at keeping records. the associated press finding that she failed to document dozens of meetings with political donors and also lobbyists while she was serving as secretary of state. the a.p. comparing her calendars with those of her aides. raising questions about how she handles records and contracts while she was secretary of state. well, the future of the freddie gray case is now in question after the third officer to be tried is cleared of all charges. a judge ruling that prosecutors failed to prove any crime was committed by officer caesar goodson. goodson drove the van where freddie gray suffered the deadly neck injury. sheriff david clarke tells our
megyn kelly that it's time for marilyn mosby who brought the charges against the officers to now step aside. >> marilyn mosby ought to have the intestinal fortitude and the courage to go in before a judge tomorrow and say, i want to -- i want to remove these charges i put forth and let the city of baltimore move forward. >> demonstrators gather outside the courthouse. and three others are waiting to be tried. an extreme heat prompts the rescue of three dogs left inside a car reaching 160 degrees inside. firefighters in sacramento removing the little dog, you can see here on the dashboard. you see that white fluffy one? they say that the pup was panting inside the window with a slightly cracked open window. just slightly cracked open. the dogs were in the car, but they were too aggressive to be taken out. the police cited the dog's owner. those are your headlines. see you back here in a bit. thanks. >> thank you.
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a brexit bombshell. a historic vote overnight. now the uk the first to leave the european union. >> sending shock waves through the stock market. >> let's get to nicole petallides about why it might get worse. >> that's right. the dow futures are pointing to the elower open to -- to the lower open of about 500 dow points. we have been done 800 over -- down 800 overnight. when we see them choosing to leave the european union, what happens next? we are seeing selling in every sector. goldman sachs looking to shave off points, all will be on the down side. i wanted to look also, if we start to see some major selling these are the circuit breakers. if we sell off about 7% on the s&p 500, that would bring us to the level of 1965.
you get a halt for 15 minutes. then again if it's 13%, another halt for 15 minutes. if it happens at the end of the day they halt it for the rest of the session. that's dramatic, but good to know the numbers just in case. we won't meet the sell-off of previous big sell-off days. it doesn't look that way, but the big point moves we have had in prior years. big picture here, everybody is ready for a busy day on wall street. don't look at your 401(k) today, but maybe next week. >> it will be miller time at 4:00 p.m. thanks, nicole. well, his rise to fame was faster than he ever realized. ♪ >> this morning the final "american idol" winner, his name is trent harmon, as you know. he takes the stage as the summer concert series rolls on. ♪ when you booked this trip,
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election chances and he was promoting a moment that he believes is bigger than both of them. >> interesting to see how this will play out at the convention. thank you both. that's "all in" for this evening. the rachel maddow starts now. >> good evening. it's been another really big day in the news today. i think we'll have a bunch of these over the next few days, but today was another day of a lot of really big news and news that continues to unfold tonight. today we had the incredibly moving memorial service in dallas, featuring pretty impassioned remarks from president obama and also remarks from former president george w. bush. very rare to see those two men appearing together anywhere. it's even more rare to have president obama flying texas senator ted cruz with him on air
force one to an event anywhere in the country. but after what dallas has just been through, partisanship became very specifically irrelevant at today's dallas memorial service. we'll have more on that occasion ahead tonight, on tonight's show. also this time tomorrow, we're looking ahead to our closest ally overseas, great britain. they're going to have a new prime minister this time tomorrow. only the second woman ever to be british prime minister, after margaret thatcher. theresa may will be taking over. we'll have news on that ahead. also on this program, we'll be joined by the campaign manager for bernie sanders, jeff weaver will join us, following senator sanders' landmark decision today to endorse hillary clinton and to apparently start campaigning for her for president. we'll have much more on that endorsement ahead tonight, in terms of what it means for the election, what it means for the democratic party, what it means for liberal politics in this country. but logistically today, that
endorsement of hillary clinton by bernie sanders, it wasn't just a declaration of support, just a declaration of intent to campaign for her. logistically, it also ends up being important that this was technically the end of bernie sanders's own campaign for president. one of the consequences of that, after he left this event in new hampshire, he flew back to washington, d.c., and then his landing in washington, d.c. today marked the end of his secret service protection. he's been protected by the secret service since the very start of the presidential primary, since the first week of february this year, but that ended for senator bernie sanders tonight. he's now officially back to being just a united states senator, depending on how he chooses to spend his time between now and november. though senator sanders will also now be one of the most valuable speakers and supporters and surrogates that hillary clinton will have, of everyone. especially when it comes to trying to rally liberal democrats, and the kind of independent-minded democratic
voters who bernie sanders attracted to his campaign by the millions during this unexpectedly long and hard-fought primary that the democrats had this year. senator sanders said today that he intends to be in every corner of this country to make certain that hillary clinton is the next president of the united states. he said today, quote, i intend to do everything i can to make certain that hillary clinton will win this fall's election. again, we'll be talking about senator bernie sanders' campaign manager, jeff weaver, about what this announcement means, what we should expect from senator sanders between now and november. he not only started talking about campaigning for secretary clinton for president, he also talked about forming successor organizations to his presidential campaign. what does that mean? how are those going to work? what should we expect from them for this year's politics? so, big day today, in democratic
politics. the endorsement is there, the sentiment is there. the importance of it for november may be in the details. got a lot of important and specific details today on the democrat side and the republican side of politics. because wii we've been talking about sanders and clinton, let's talk about the democratic side first in terms of new details we got today and tonight. on the democratic side, we don't exact guidance on the line-up and the speakers for the democratic convention, but "the new york times" reports that a prominent speaking slot has been reserved at the connecticut on night one for massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. on the one hand, that must be very exciting for senator warren to know she has a dedicated prominent speaking slot on night one of the democratic national convention. on the other hand, night one is usually not when the vice president ial nominee makes her speech. so does that mean that elizabeth warren is out as a potential hillary clinton running mate?
not necessarily. if they decide to choose senator warren as their vp choice, obviously they can move her speaking slot. wouldn't be the biggest deal in the world. but them announcing today, letting it be known to reporters today, that she's speaking on night one, that's the current plan, that is a little tea leaf that we found out about today. and frankly, at this point in politics, it's impossible to not try to read signs like that, to read tea leaves like this when we find them. in terms of the timing of hillary clinton's running mate announcement, we're now led to believe that her announcement will be timed to take full advantage of the fact that the democrats are holding their convention second this year, after the republicans. and generally speaking, this sort of thing tends to be a good move. republicans did it in 2008. the republicans waited for the democratic convention to end. they waited for the -- for nominee barack obama to have his ginormous acceptance speech at the huge stadium in denver, to
wow the country with one of the great obama orations of all time, on this incredible stage, before a huge crowd. but then the very next morning, quash. they stepped right on the tail of that story with their own republican surprise announcement that john mccain had chosen for his running mate, a half term governor of alaska who nobody had ever heard of. whatever you think of john mccain choosing sarah palin as his running mate, the timing of that surprise announcement in 2008, right after obama's convention, right between the two conventions, squashing the momentum from the successful obama/biden convention, and that incredible acceptance speech that obama gave in denver, whatever you think about that, the timing of that was very well played by the mccain campaign in 2008. and the clinton campaign is planning on similar timing with their announcement this year. we're told they're planning to announce hillary clinton's running mate, sometime during the three-day window, between
the end of the republican convention next week and the beginning of the democratic convention the week after. so that means a week from friday, saturday, or sunday, that's when we'll get the clinton announcement. now, in terms of who hillary clinton is likely to pick, we still really don't know. there's that intriguing elizabeth warren speaking slot news from today. although really who knows what that means. there's also a big joint appearance planned on thursday this week, two days from now, for hillary clinton with virginia governor tim cane. and i know, i know, tim cane is always derided as the boring choice for running mate. but if you want to know, part of the reason tim cane is always in the running anytime any democrat is looking for a potential vice presidential running mate, if you want to know why he's the king of the short list, why he is always a bridesmaid, well, behold, here is tim cane's last sunday show appearance. just watch this briefly, only about 20 seconds.
what subtle detail do you know about this sunday show appearance that might set tim cane apart from your typical, boring, short list perennial contender? >> in virginia. tim cane speaking on univision this weekend, giving the boilerplate denial that he's not interested in being vice president and he's happy to be senator from virginia, but doing that boilerplate denial in fluent spanish. spanish so fluent that he gets the jokes, he needs no translation, he knows when to smile and laugh and react to the spanish-speaking anchor.
there are 320 million people in this country, 55 million of them are hispanic. tim cane is always on the democratic vice presidential short list for a reason, and that is one of them. we'll get a little window into how seriously the clinton campaign is really considering him as a running mate. we'll get a little window into what the chemistry is like between tim cane and hillary clinton at their event that is scheduled for the day after tomorrow. thursday event, tim cane and hillary clinton. in addition to the elizabeth warren buzz and the tim cane buzz, there was also a brief flurry of reporting today about the possibility that the clinton campaign was vetting former navy admiral, james staff reedis. we don't know how specific that prospect is. this is the first time his name has surfaced. there were reports they were vetting him. there were reports he was not in serious contention. so we don't really know. but in general, it's not inconceivable that a retired military officer will be in the mix for one or even both of the presidential candidates this year. the trump campaign just in the past few days floated and then unfloated the name of
controversial retired general mike flynn as a potential running mate for donald trump. mr. trump reportedly floated the name of retired general mcchrystal, who stomped all over that prospect when he told cnn he will not accept any role in a donald trump administration. emphasis on any. if the candidates are considering former generals, and they are, general mcchrystal would make a much more sensible running mate for hillary clinton, not donald trump. donald trump and mccrystal, inconceivable match-up. i would be surprised if mccrystal is not on the list that hillary clinton is considering, as the campaign continues to narrow down its choices. we shall see. we do tonight have some very specific reporting on the republican side in terms of what to expect for a vice presidential announcement timing. the trump campaign is now expected to reveal donald trump's choice of running mate as some sort of orchestrated big public event on friday of this week. it's possible that the selection will happen before that, that it
could be leaked, that they'll let it be known in a quieter way before friday. but they are planning a vice presidential roll-out event on friday. despite the flirtation with mike flynn, the remaining names on the short list for trump tonight are reported to be three. number one, new jersey governor chris christie, number two, indiana governor mike pence, and number three, former house speaker newt gingrich. now, if you're trying to read the tea leaves in deciding between the three of them, the easiest tea leaf to read on these guys is at the big, blaring, nationally broadcast one at the fox news channel.
fox news channel is very powerful, very rich, they get great ratings. more power to them. not really. but they are in an unusual position in american politics and american broadcasting in that the fox news channel is effectively the official tv station of the republican party. and whether you like that about them or you don't, having fox have the role of being official republican tv, it does give us one very handy signal we wouldn't otherwise have in american politics. fox news helps us know when specific republican politicians are about to run for office. they make it really obvious. it's like clock work, right? republican politicians leave office, or they lose an election or something, they go then, get a job at fox news. then as soon as they're ready to
run for office again, fox news has to go through this big public display of firing them. and so we all get this very clear, sure-fire sign that a republican politician is about to jump back into electoral politics when they get fired from fox news for that purpose. it's like when the white smoke starts coming out of the chimney at the top of the sistine chapel. you don't know who the pope is, but you know they got a pope. it's the same thing at fox news. if you're a republican politician and you get fired from fox news, you're about to run for something. that's how we knew in 2012. brett baird announced they were both fired on the same day. same with liz cheney running for senate in wyoming. how we found out scott brown was going to run for new hampshire. ben carson and mike huckabee in 2016, they got publicly fired at fox news, so they could clear the way to make that run, and that's how we all knew they'd be running. well, keeping that pattern in mind, you should note that today, newt gingrich, once again, got fired from fox news. and so maybe that means he's going to be running with donald trump as trump's vice presidential running mate. maybe it does.
we will see. who knows? maybe fox just fired him for a week and they're going to hire him back after the convention, once trump names mike pence as his vice presidential running mate. who knows. it's almost not worth speculating on at this point if only we don't have to speculate for long. we just have to hold our breath and wait. we're going to find out by the end of this week. so your guessing time is almost up. the real unanswered question is whether or not the sort of thing that is worth worrying about, particularly for republicans, is whether the vice presidential running mate announcement, whoever it is, the real thing to
worry about, the real thing to wonder about, is whether it's going to work. whether it's going to be a big enough deal that it's going to make a difference in the campaign. because the latest data about the campaign, about the race between donald trump and hillary clinton, the latest data is really bad for donald trump. the latest pough national poll that came out, hillary clinton is beating donald trump overall, nationwide, no big deal, nine points. seen this before. but look at this one slice of voters under the age of 30. in the new national pough poll, look at this, voters under 30 nationwide, not only are picking hillary clinton over donald trump by a huge margin, they're actually picking hillary clinton and gary johnson over donald trump. donald trump is losing to hillary clinton -- and to the libertarian guy! among voters ages 18 to 29. bloomberg politics also has a new national poll out that has just devastating numbers for trump, with a different slice of the electorate. bloomberg looks at white, college-educated voters. which is about a third of the electorate. in every election since 1952, they've picked the last presidential candidate.
in the last election, white, college-educated voters went for mitt romney over obama by a margin of 14 points. even though obama won handily overall. white college educated voters are right now, plus 11 for hillary clinton in this election. if you broaden it out to all college educated voters, not just white people, but all college educated likely voters in this country, that's a group president obama actually won by two points in 2012. hillary clinton leads with those same voters not by two points, but by 22 points. and that's a huge portion of the electorate. white college-educated voters is a third of the electorate in 2012. all college-educated voters, that was 47% of the electorate. she's got a 22-point lead with half of the electorate. if you focus in on likely voters with graduate degrees, people
who have not just a college degree, but a graduate degree beyond that, hillary clinton wins those voters by a 34-point margin, by 61-27 percent. and that dynamic is one that the trump campaign has sort of tried to turn into lemonade a little bit. they've tried to celebrate that a little bit. do you remember when donald trump said this after nevada? >> we won with poorly educated -- i love the poorly educated. >> donald trump and his campaign may love their success with the poorly educated, but any republican candidate who is losing college-educated white people by 11 points is gonna lose a national election. and badly. so, that's a big deficit from which he is starting as we head into the convention and are poised to hear who his vice presidential running mate is going to be. as we get down to the wire, as the last tea leaves settle into
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for re-election as governor in indiana. he's only got about a 40% approval rating in his home state. a lot of national conservatives have turned on him because of the way his governorship has gone in indiana. but with all that stacked against him, he does now have the distinction of being on donald trump's vice presidential short list. and we're going to find out how short the list is going to get in just a matter of days. joining us now is msnbc political correspondent steve kornacki. good to be here. >> sure. >> in terms of mike pence i have always felt like mike pence's reputation was bigger than mike pence -- is bigger than what mike pence has earned in the terms of the way that he's governed. he's never passed a bill in congress. he's been deeply unpopular as a governor in indiana. national conservatives have started to sour on him a little bit. why is his reputation so much bigger than what it would seem like he's earned on paper? >> i think in this case, it's comparison. most people think it's come down to pence and gingrich.
maybe trump has a surprise up his sleeve, we never know. but the conventional wisdom is that he's deciding between pence and gingrich. you look at gingrich, he had the ethics violations when he was in congress. he has all sort of personal baggage. he has a tendency to say things that raise eyebrows. when you compare pence to gingrich, pence has more convention credentials without the flamboyance of a gingrich. without the obvious baggage of a gingrich. so when you compare the two of them, it starts to look like donald trump is choosing between sort of a safe conventional establishment pick in mike pence, and then donald trump, who wants to do something unconventional, the showman donald trump, in maybe the newt gingrich pick. >> why is chris christie not in the running anymore as far as you see it? >> two factors. bridgegate is still hanging over chris christie. the other thing is, when you look inside donald trump's world, i've never gotten past the fact that donald trump's son-in-law, the husband of ivanka, jared kushner, his father was prosecuted by chris
christie, and when you start to see the history and the role that jared kushner plays in chris christie's world right now, have always had a hard time seeing how donald trump would bring him in as vice president. >> and that hasn't changed at all as you see how close christie has kept trump? >> and christie has his reasons and he hopes he can get this. maybe something's happening behind the scenes. it's unthinkable to people who know the chris christie, jared kushner world. maybe there's been an alignment behind the scenes. it would be an incredible story. but chris christie putting jared kushner's father in jail ten years ago, humiliating him. it wasn't just prosecuting him, it involved prostitutes, crossing state lines, he prosecuted him under a hundred-year-old statute. there's a history there, it's hard for me to see how that would happen.
>> if it's pence or gingrich or somebody else who we're not talking about, is there a vice presidential pick in the world who could radically change the trajectory of donald trump's national election prospects? >> here's what i always think when that question comes up, in any scenario like this. 9888, lloyd benson, dan quayle. the ultimate line in any political debate in history was loit benson saying to dan quayle, senator, you're no jack kennedy. it's the all-time best comment in a political contest. did lloyd benson help dukakis at all? there's zero evidence he did anything. he lost in a landslide. >> it will be fun to see who he picks, but nothing's going to change what's going to happen anyway? >> i think so. >> the good thing about having steve kornacki on tv, he tells you how things end. so if you don't want to pay attention to the middle part, you can skip to the end and know how it will all work out. he's very relieving in that way, even when it's bad news.
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>> police in baton rouge, louisiana, say they have stopped what they're calling a credible threat to shoot police officers in that city. law enforcement officials in baton rouge say there were four suspects involved in what they're describing as a plot against police. they say the four suspects broke into a local pawn shop and stole multiple handguns. the police say the suspects' intent was to shoot police officers in that city. three of the four suspects in this case have been arrested. one of them's only 13 years old. the others are 17 and 20. a fourth suspect remains at large.
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>> one month ago today, we woke up to the news that in the early hours of the morning, a gunman had opened fired in a gay nightclub in orlando, florida, and killed 49 people. a month ago today, june 12th.
that was the deadliest mass shooting in u.s. history, the worst terrorist attack in the united states since 9/11. president obama spoke about orlando that day from the white house briefing room. today, one month later exactly, president obama addressed a mourning nation again, this time following the worst attack on law enforcement since 9/11. he cut short his trip to europe to return to dallas today to speak at a memorial service for the five police officers who were shot in the streets of downtown dallas last thursday night. this was a profoundly non-partisan event. texas senator ted cruz flew to texas with the president today on air force one. president george w. bush and former first lady laura bush were also there on stage with the obamas. former president bush gave brief remarks at the service. he almost never speaks publicly now but he did today. and president obama gave
remarks, remarks that were moving, which i think a lot of people expected, especially once we learned the president would be writing the speech himself. i'm not sure that we expected that his remarks would be so personal, and in some ways, also just profoundly sad. watch some of what the president had to say today. >> now, i'm not naive. i have spoken at too many memorials during the course of this presidency. i've hugged too many families who've lost a loved one to senseless violence. and i've seen how a spirit of unity, born of tragedy, can gradually dissipate. overtaken by the return to business as usual. as old habits and expediency, i see how easily we slip back into our old notions, because they're comfortable, we're used to them.
i've seen how inadequate words can be in bringing about lasting change. i've seen how adequate my own words have been. and so i'm reminded of the passage in john's gospel. let us love not with words or speech but with actions and in truth. as a society, we choose to under-invest in decent schools. we allow poverty to fester so that entire neighborhoods offer no prospect for gainful employment. we refuse to fund drug treatment and mental health programs. we flood communities with so
many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a glock, than get his hands on a computer or even a book. and then we tell the police, you're a social worker, you're the parent, you're the teacher, you're the drug counsellor. we tell them to keep those neighborhoods in check at all costs. and do so without causing any political blowback or inconvenience. don't make a mistake that might disturb our own peace of mind. and then we feign surprise when periodically the tensions boil over.
we know those things to be true. they've been true for a long time. we know it! police, you know it. protesters, you know it. you know how dangerous some of the communities where these police officers serve are. and you pretend as if there's no context. these things we know to be true, and if we cannot even talk about these things, if we cannot talk honestly and openly, not just in the comfort of our own circles, but with those who look different than us, or bring a different perspective, then we will never break this dangerous cycle. >> this was the 11th time president obama has traveled to an american city in the immediate aftermath of a mass
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in the epped, he came in second to michael dukakis. but jackson and his supporters felt that he had earned some leverage in that campaign, that he ought to have some say in the future of the party, given how well he did in the primary. michael dukakis, as it turns out, did not share that view. >> the democratic party was presented with a platform for dukakis to run on. they produced a document which is short in length, details and controversy, which is just what dukakis wanted. >> jesse jackson was in puerto rico today, vowing to take his flat form fight to the floor of the convention. >> i do not think bland is beautiful. >> governor dukakis from his island vacation got exactly what he wanted. >> governor dukakis does not support a tax increase. governor dukakis does not support a reduction in defense expenditures. >> michael barnes led the dukakis defense.
>> did dukakis lose anything at all here? >> no. >> did jackson win anything? >> the goal was to be on the inside with a microphone, rather than on the outside with a picket sign. >> it did not do jesse jackson much tangible good to be on the inside in 1988. but that is hugely the way it goes. i mean, the winner of the primary is the leader of the party, and he or she gets to decide what the party is going to be from there on out. including stuff like the party platform. so considering that history, considering the way it usually is, when bernie sanders did give his endorsement to hillary clinton today, four weeks after the end of the democratic primary, he was able to claim a rare and pretty remarkable achievement, even though its candidacy was ultimately not successful, he did genuinely succeed in moving the democratic party and moving the democratic party's nominee to the left.
and on the most important stuff, he got it in writing. >> it is no secret that hillary clinton and i disagree on a number of issues. that is what this campaign has been about. that is what democracy is about. but i am happy to tell you that at the democratic platform committee, which ended sunday night in orlando, there was a significant coming together between the two campaigns and we produced -- [ cheers and applause ] we produced by far the most progressive platform in the history of the democratic party! >> indeed the sanders' camp got the language they wanted on almost every plank of the party platform, from the minimum wage, to breaking up the big banks, to carbon pricing, to the debt
policy. hillary clinton embraces ideas from him on college tuition. both president obama and hillary clinton have renewed their support for a public option under obamacare. remember the public option? it's now back. bernie sanders is happy enough with these developments and others that today his campaign announced that they will not be filing what they called minority reports at the democratic convention. minority reports are where you lay out disagreements with the party platform. it means you have floor fights, over not necessarily the nominee, but over the platform. there are not going to be floor fights over the platform at the convention. that had been something senator sanders had threatened in the past and we now know it's not going to happen. it's worth appreciating what bernie sanders has achieved and how rare it is. here was not the world's most
high profile senator, launching a presidential bid in a party he was not even a member of and he came closer than anybody thought possible to beating the overwhelming favorite. instead of just losing to the front-runner and marveling about it like 17 republicans did with donald trump, bernie sanders in defeat actually managed to substantively shift the democratic party in his direction, which is nothing can be said by any of the republicans who lost to donald trump. and bernie sanders interest still going. he's not done. in an e-mail to supporters today, he announced his endorsement, and that he will be rolling out plans for what he called successor organizations, to carry on the struggle that we have been a part of these past 15 months. my question is, what's that going to look like? we've got an answer for that next. my advice for looking younger longer? get your beauty sleep and use new aveeno® absolutely ageless® night cream
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nominee for president. and i intend to do everything i can to make certain she will be the next president of the united states. >> senator bernie sanders today, in new hampshire, saying he'll do everything he can to help hillary clinton beat donald trump in november. joining us now is jeff weaver, bernie sanders campaign manager. thank you for being here. >> thank you. you can just call me jeff. >> old habits die hard. on that personal note, let me just ask you how you're doing. this is a big political moment for the country and for the democratic party, but for you, this is the end of a long, hard, emotional road for you, running this campaign. >> well, it is, rachel. it will be good to spend more time with my family, but i've been working with bernie sanders off and on since 1986. so i don't see it as the end of the road.
the political revolution that bernie sanders talked about during his campaign continues. it would continue whether he was president, whether hillary clinton is president, whether donald trump is president. i hope to be part of that revolution going forward. >> senator sanders said in the e-mail to supporters today he's going to establish successor organizations to continue the work of the campaign. what are those successor organizations and what will they do? >> well, i think you'll see a number of sister organizations, rachel, which will be focused, a, on policy, b, on recruiting, identifying and training progressive candidates at the local, state, and federal level. as well as some organizations that are dedicated solely to electoral politics. bernie sanders talks about this political revolution, as you've heard him say many times, if he were elected president, he would need millions of people on the mall to help congress do what needs to be done. hillary clinton is going to need that as well. we need this mass movement that started with bernie sanders campaign. but this was never about one candidate. it's about transforming the country and mobilizing people
from one end of it to the other. and we're going to do that. >> is there anything out there in modern political history that we can compare it to? obama for america didn't end up being a major force in progressive politics or any kind of politics. we've seen sort of more successful organizing efforts like that on the right, thinking about something like the christian coalition, which i talked to senator sanders about in our last interview, asking if that might be a kind of model for moving forward. are you basing these plans on anything else that has kpifted? >> no, i think the country is at a unique time. a democratically aligned independents are realizing, coming back home, after a period of time when the democratic party moved to the right after the reagan era, i think the democratic party is moving back into its normal historical trajectory. i think we found it on the stump, the rank and file of the democratic party is much more progressive, i think, than
people had anticipated. i think there's a that's going to be able to harness that energy and to use it to put into effect that platform. we needed elected officials who that platform in the congress. >> senator sanders today said that talking about that platform, saying the way that platform gets implemented is with not only a democratic senate, which seems very possible this year, but a democratic house, which will be a much tougher row to hoe. a democratic presidency in hillary clinton, what should we expect towards the election? i recognize the goals go on longer, what should we expect from senator sanders in terms of campaigning and organizing? >> i think you'll see senator sanders actively campaigning from one end of the country to the other, i think he's going to be stumping for secretary clinton, obviously, to help her
become president of the united states. in addition to that, i think you'll see him stumping for progressive senates to house candidates from one end of the country to the other. i think he'll be able to excite and generate enthusiasm for a lot of young people, the young people who supported in this campaign from democratically aligned inpen dense. i think he'll be effective on the stump in bringing together the type of -- and they'll democrats up and down. >> jeff, there is a bernie or bust contingent among sanders supporters. people started shouting and making themselves known that they're not on board with this endorsement, even if senator sanders is going to work for hillary clinton, they don't want to. as your perspective, how many of those folks do you think they are and do you think the clinton campaign should worry about them?
do you think senator sanders has a strategy for trying to change their minds? >> a lot of these voters won't necessarily vote for trump but they'll stay home on election day. look, let me say, i've worked on this campaign on the get go, no one has poured more of their heart and soul than i have. when i go home and look at my kids in their face, i cannot imagine a future where donald trump becomes the president and my children have to grow up in that type of society. so the way we stop that is to elect hillary clinton president of the united states. as i mentioned before, the reagan era, many people thought when ronald reagan was president, he was so extreme. what would happen is that the politics and america moved sharply to the right, including democratic party and take over democratic party. we've almost left that period behind, a little bit of hang over, but the democratic party is back on and we need to move
forward. we're not moving forward fast enough. bernie sanders fought very hard, but he did not win, hillary clinton win. we'll support her to keep this country going forward. we cannot leave our children in the hands of donald trump. >> you're going to vote for hillary clinton? >> yes, i am. >> bernie sanders campaign manager what i know is a tough day and big change. i wish you the best particularly in getting back to your life and family and getting some rest after this long hall, thanks for being here. >> thanks for talking to me, ra -- rachel. >> we'll be right back. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair works... ...in one week. with the... fastest retinol formula. ...to visibly reduce wrinkles. neutrogena®. listerine® total care strengthens teeth, after brushing, helps prevent cavities and restores tooth enamel. it's an easy way to give listerine® total care
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the convention speakers for the republican convention. first they said we'll get that list last wednesday, then thursday, then we were told we would be able to report a list of speakers today, so far this is what we've got, nothing, on the record. according to the official republican convention app, the only confirmed speaker thus far is george washington. seriously, george washington, i don't know, i'm sure he's very nice, no relation, right. mitt romney announced his convention speakers three weeks ahead, this time we're less than a week out, still no idea. some speakers are revealing themselves that they'll be there. mitch mcconnell said he would address the convention, you can get excited for that. we also know to expect to speeches from ted cruz, paul ryan, the list who won't speak is longer, mitt romney, low energy jeb bush, or his older brother george bush.
also john not a war hero mccain, little marco rubio, no disgusting eater john kasich. politico republican reported republican political operatives who are skipping it. ril ritter told politico, i would rather attend the public hanging of a good friend. donald trump said romney's convention in 2012 was boring. he promised he'll have a show biz feel to it. maybe with star power, at this point we'll have to take his word for it. kicks off in six days. we have no idea what's going to happen. it's wednesday, july 13th. right now on "first look," arrests made as a plot to kill baton rouge cops is stopped in its tracks. president obama leads the nation in mourning the five dallas police officers ambushed while protecting a peaceful protest.
to politics, we have the belated endorsement and forced political marriage of bernie sanders and hillary clinton. and a formal announcement for donald trump's ticket on friday. and trump calls for the resignation of supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg. a bear in quite a pickle of a situation. and is this the next iron lady? "first look" starts right now. good morning, everybody. thanks for joining us today, i'm betty nguyen. a manhunt is under way in baton rouge, louis.
children. matt borges said he was a good guy and one of the good guys was gone way too soon. "morning show starts right now. >> i like to play golf. i'm a good golfer, believe people are shocked. people are shocked. let me -- [ applause ] >> i should play obama for the presidency. [ applause ] i'll do it. [ applause ] then i'd be assured of winning, okay? >> assured. good morning, everybody. how are you doing? it's thursday, august 4th. how do i sound? >> much better today. >> okay. hopefully it lasts. i've got lemon water here. joe has the morning off. with us on set we have veteran columnist and msnbc contributor mike barnacle. you might be talking a lot this morning, mike. managing editor of bloomberg politics and co-host of "withual due respect" that airs at 6:00 p.m. on msnbc. mark halpern, how are you?
>> good morning. >> i loved watching your show yesterday. was so good. i lost it a few time because they kept putting hillary up in speeches. i like watching your show. >> speak out. let everyone know. >> i did. i sent in a letter. commentator for the new york and in washington, political analyst and former chairman of the republican national committee. how's that party doing, michael steele? >> having fun, baby. having fun. >> no, you are not. you are not having any fun. >> hanging my head. >> it is a something show. in washington, anchor for bbc "world news america," katty kay joins us. how are you? >> good morning. >> have you in of you all seriously, have you participated in an intervention? i'm serious. >> yes. >> i have. >> i haven't -- >> a formal one? with someone you love and someone who's in deep trouble? >> the success rate isn't very high. >> it goes back -- >> for an international party, no. >> no, a person. just a person. one person. have you ever had an intervention where you've had to
get around with everybody that loves the person and try and tell them what hathey're doing that is killing them? >> by the time you get to the intervention, it's usually too late. >> the response is usually what? >> denial. >> rejection. denial. >> we have a problem -- i'm fine. >> anger. >> thought you were my friends. >> blame shifting. >> i'll never speak to you again. it's a relief. >> those went well for you, didn't they? >> a friend of mine had a serious drug problem, and we had an intervention -- blamed cnn. >> all right. so joking. after a spate of national polls showing trump slipping against hillary clinton including some new ones that we'll get to in a moment, fresh off the presses, after trump's ongoing feud with gold-star parents during the first days of the general election, after trump's refusal to back party icons like senator john mccain
and speaker paul ryan, the talk yesterday was whether the candidate himself was in need of an intervention. and whether top allies would try to compel the nominee to make a dramatic reset of his campaign. sources tell nbc news that trump will hear from rnc chairman reince priebus, former new york city mayor rudy giuliani, and ex-house speaker newt gingrich who spoke out yesterday. >> i think some of what trump has done is very self-destructive. i don't know if it's a fixable problem. i think it's a very big moment for trump. he's got to find a way to slow do down, really learn new lessons. it's like "the apprentice," except he's the boss. >> those at the top deny that any campaign intervention is in the works and that the candidate is in control. >> focused. >> the campaign is moving forward in a positive way. the only need for an intervention is maybe with media
types who keep saying things that aren't true. >> i talked to donald trump just about every day, and -- look, you're always going to hear inside baseball discussions. i've never heard anything about a meeting of that kind. this campaign is totally focused, totally focused on strengthening america. >> this as an unidentified republican operative tells "u.s. news and world report" that trump has increasingly been back in regular contact with his former campaign manager, cory lewandowski. trump was alarmed by a call last week from a senior adviser who lamented the campaign's lack of state-by-state organization and warned the nominee that "you are not going to win." the call was from jared kushner, the influential son-in-law held in high regard by trump. trump himself suggested that he may have been thrown off message by his opponent.
>> many people in the gop who support your candidacy are advising to focus your attacks on hillary clinton. they say you're being baited into battle that's distract you from the message. what are your thoughts? >> i think that's probably right. more focused on hillary clinton. she's a disaster. we'll focus more on hillary clinton, absolutely. >> it's an interesting storyline, willie. my interest at this point is not -- i feel like we've watched this candidate again and again and again blow past stop signs and do things that are -- you can't take them back. you can't refocus. an intervention won't help. we've signed of seen who he is through -- we've kind of seen who he is through this experience and how he would lead. i think the bigger question is about republican leaders and if they are going to take a stand now and preserve what's left of their party or go down in flames, losing every bit of their principle, promises to
their people and themselves, and moral compass. >> there weather -- whether it's an intervention in that respect or friends calling, it's hard for me to see how a visit from rudy giuliani and chris christie and reince priebus, going up to the top of trump tower and telling him what's what is going to change the way donald trump does business. >> unless they threaten to leave. >> they've been waiting for the pivot. he's not going to change. it's who he is. the idea that they'll suddenly built this state-by-state organization with three months until election day, that's something you build over a generation as a party, over years and years and years. >> they're making money. >> they raised money, that's true. it's late to start building a conventional, formal presidential campaign. >> and let's get real, mark. they're not going to take the nomination away from him. >> no, but he's also not out of it. as bad as the weeks he's had, the people behind him who are rational and tactical would like to see him get back on track the next couple of weeks. if he has a strong first debate,
he can be back in this race. the electoral college math is so daunting. reince priebus said for years for us to be the democrats we need to run a perfect race. as you look at states like colorado where hillary -- >> we're not doing that? >> colorado where hillary clinton was yesterday where republicans have written it off, he's not leaving himself much of a margin of error or any margin of error to win 270 electoral votes. >> michael steele, if you were invited to the alleged intervention, what would you tell donald trump three months out? >> i'd start with the one question, do you want to be president. if the answer is yes, then you damn sure need to start acting like it. right now to the points made around the table, you are losing this election. listen to your brother-in-law. he's smart. you're losing this election, you're giving it away. you're leaving good information, good opportunities on the table that you can take to hillary clinton, that you can take to the democrats, that's what this
election is about. it's not about you. it's not about showboating. it's not about a primary that you beat 15 other guys at. this is about how you're going to run the country, from what you will do in the middle east to how you're going to grow jobs. that's the focus you need to have. if you want this job, you'd better tell the american people you want it and start acting like it. otherwise, this is over. and as a party, we're going to focus on preserving the senate and holding the house and making the other gains we need to make and rebuild after you're done with this. >> look, we say what we see. i saw that he would win the nomination. you can see a lot of things here. and we get used to it because we watch it close up. mark halpern, he doesn't want to win, does he? i mean, is this a candidate who wants to win? is this a candidate who flips around the purple heart and, you know -- disgraces himself in front of gold-star families?
especially those who really have given the ultimate and went on stage and talked about him? he took the bait like a child and started -- let that news cycle go for six days. is this a candidate who want to win, or is getting bored and childlike, like i don't like this, why don't i screw it up and get out of here? that's what i see. >> there's no rational way to explain how he's behaved the past two weeksf he wants to win. >> it doesn't look like there's someone who wants to win. >> no rational way. he has an obligation to the party even though he's an outsider. he ran for the nomination. he's got an obligation to not hurt the other people. the problem for the party and people blindly saying they should denounce him, there's no textbook that tells you here's how you win a race in a general election is 70% of the base is mad at you. 70% of the base does not want them to renounce trump, the nominee. >> isn't this a moment where it can't be about re-election, it
can't be -- maybe it's about leading? maybe in the end you'll be right? maybe that's a risk you should take because what you're doing is wrong? >> that's a dilemma for some. for most they feel the obligation, like paul ryan feels his obligation is to not let hillary clinton have a house majority. while it seems tempting to some to say renounce trump, most of the house members are in districts that are -- are heavily republican. if they renounce trump, they run the risk of losing the house. >> they also run the risk of transforming the country in a negative way. >> with this in the background, trump was greeted by huge crowds in florida arenas. 8,000 people in daytona beach. another 10,000 last night in jacksonville. trump dismissed any talk of disunity within his campaign organization and spoke optimistically about his chances while reminding republicans what makes him so unique. >> i just want to tell you the campaign is doing really well. it's never been so well united. we started on june 16th. i would say right now it's the
best in terms of being united that it's been since we began. you know, the route to the white house for the republicans is much more difficult. you know that. you look at the maps. you look at the maps. and yet for me, not being your typical republican i guess, we have a lot of states in play right now that will -- i think we're going to do great in michigan. most republicans would never even stop for dinner in some of those states. you know what, sort of like i feel the same about isis, i don't really want to tell you what the states are because they've got a lot of money. what they'll do is immediately start advertising, trump's a horrible human being. they'll show the golf shot. at least they gave me -- my swing looked good. [ laughter ] no, it's true. if i were them, i would have picked a bad-looking swing where i'm falling over. i have them, too. i would have picked a bad-looking swing. at least my swing looked good. thank you, hillary. >> it was a good swing. a new poll out of pennsylvania spells some trouble for donald
trump's result belt strategy. it shows hillary clinton leading by 11 points among likely voters, 49-38. this after a suffolk poll last week that shows clinton beating trump by nine points in pennsylvania. whose 20 electoral college votes are essential to his victory. a fox news national poll shows hillary clinton with a ten-point lead, 49-39. the latest in a string of descending numbers for trump. clinton has obama-like margins with women voters, 57-34. african-american voters, 87-4. his panic voters where hillary clinton is up 68-20. and an 18-point lead with voters under 30 where hillary clinton leads 29-31. trump's dominant groups include men. his lead, five points, 45-40. a ten-point advantage against white voters, while posting hefty leads with white evangelical voters and white voters without a college degree. a new national poll taken over the month of july shows secretary clinton with a
48-point lead among hispanics. trump is at just 18% in the florida atlantic university poll. that's a drop-off actually from mitt romney's 27% in 2012 and john mccain's 31% among hispanics in 2008, and way down from the last successful republican, george w. bush, who narrowed the gap among hispanics to nine points in 2004. yes? >> this is where i think one of the most dangerous things is happening for the republican party now. the republican party now in early august sounds like four years ago in late october. forget all the polls. the polls are crooked, fixed. we're drawing 10,000, big crowds. we must be winning. if that is the attitude that they have, the complacency involved there, they'll lose in a landslide. >> what jumps out as at you looking at the numbers, nick? >> it's pennsylvania. if he can't overperform in pennsylvania, he's not going to win the presidency. they have this idea of the special three-state strategy of sweeping ohio, florida, and pennsylvania. that's his path to victory.
pennsylvania is one of those states, a result belt-type state, where his -- rust belt-type state, where his voters -- he says i can overperform. he's underperforming. if he can't win, he can't be president. >> he had a sanders-like performance in terms of money raising the past couple of months. raised a lot of money. >> we said around this table if he could get his act together on the small donor part of it, he could clean up. that the appetite was out there for those donors. it sure looks as though him in partnership with the rnc provide the technical background for him to do it. he's blown up. there was a big suppressed appetite for that kind of giving among his supporters. it's really there. he might be a sanders-type candidate in fund-raising on the right. a big deal. >> michael steele, he's raised all this money in this last quarter. what's he going to do with it? i mean, he has no ground game. at least that we've been told about. he has no like sophisticated get
out the vote operations that are necessary. what's he going to do with the money? >> i think a lot of that is going to go to some of the down ballot races. certainly some of the senate races that are on the radar screen. we'll see some of that money. the rnc does have its organizations on the ground. they've always had those in place. they've been building that for the past 18 months or so. so those dollars will go there. it's not like donald trump won't have any ground game. you do expect the presidential campaign to have an infrastructure for that. but the party does, as well. and that's been in place for quite some time. a lot of those dollars will go there. i do have a question for mark, and that is looking at the poll numbers, mark, would you say that if we're ten days from now look at a double-digit drop -- lead for hillary clinton in places like colorado, pennsylvania, florida, that this -- this is the glide path that you can't overcome eventually?
that's going to set in place the outcome of this election, it's going to be hard to overcome that? >> look, the first debate can make up five points on his own if he beats her badly. i'm not saying he will. if he does, his problem -- i asked joel bennett, hillary clinton strategist and pollster in philadelphia, what's trump's floor? what's the lowest -- he said about 40. that's where trump is in a lot of these polls. in some polls he's not even at 40. you get to labor day, and if it's not a competitive race, you're already seeing talk from republicans, let's stop trying to help trump. let's try to keep the house and senate. he doesn't have much time will to try to figure out how to get above 50 or keep her at -- above 40 or keep her at 50, or the psychology change for republicans. he has to get to the mid 40s in a lot of places and quick nationally. >> katty kay, his loose talk about nukes and everything else pertaining to foreign policy, it can't look good from around the world. you've got to get so many questions in your travels.
>> yeah. we're going from the kind of wow, there is exciting in america and these crazy americans, what are they up to, to, my god, this could be a terrifying stage of reaction from the rest of the world. i don't think it's any surprise that the people you're starting to see come out and say that they won't vote for donald trump tend to be on the national security wing of the republican party. kinsing her is one. tim solve abroad in iraq --kinzinger is one. tim self abroad in iraq. i interviewed president clinton's defense secretary. he said he wouldn't be able to vote for donald trump in november either. i wouldn't be surprised if after labor day you had a slew of senior foreign policy types coming out on the republican side saying we just can't vote for donald trump. the next step would be if they said they were meg whitman style going to support hillary clinton. i don't know if they'll go that far. that's where you'll get the
first big fracture in the party. >> i think the republican leaders need to get their heads out of something. here's what -- >> the sand? >> the sand. paul ryan's long, hot summer, this is "the new york times," "there's no reason to believe that trump's conduct will do anything but get crazier as the election approaches, especially if it appears that he's guaranteed to lose. in which case paul ryan would have endured his long humiliation for exactly nothing." mark halperin, i'm going to you ask about this. "more than most politicians, ryan has always laid claim to a mix of moral and substantive authority. and both that authority and that brand are being laid waste in this campaign. every time ryan talks about patriotism, every time he talks about conservative ideals, the orange face of trump seems to rise moonlike behind his shoulder. a reminder that this patriot and
idealist is supporting for the highest office in the republic, the most powerful position in the world a man that he obviously knows to be dangerous, unstable, unprincipled, and unfit." a better way of putting it than i did. mark and then michael steele, if trump loses, where does it leave people like paul ryan who have gone against their principles? who are not telling the truth by endorsing this man? anybody want to challenge me on that? maybe you're too afraid to say it, but you're not telling the truth. you're going against your principles. you don't believe in him. you don't know if he'll stand by his word. you don't even know if he's a republican, okay. and you're endorsing him. that is what you're doing. i guess you're trying to, according to mark halperin, keep your base. what if he loses? >> everything you say is true. i think paul ryan would privately agree with everything you say. there are two factors -- one is he won the nomination through the votes of the voters -- >> i hate politics. if there's countervailing factors to what i said that you
believe to be true, hate politics. >> he thinks if hillary clinton has control of the house and senate and she's president she will push through an agenda that he thinks will be bad for the future of the country. and again, go to look at the electorates for his members, look at the general election prospects. forget that some still have primaries. if they break from the top of the ticket, they will alienate their base, and they could lose a lot of seats. >> i don't believe it. michael? >> so this -- i think mark has it exactly right. i get what you're saying and understand the passion behind it. the politics of this are -- are heavy. and he is -- he is in many respects the head of the party. he's the speaker of the house. he's got the majority. and he's -- he's trying to balance two things. one is, as mark pointed out, those 13.5 million-plus votes that donald trump got. that has to be respected regardless of what you think about the process. he was duly nominate. he went through the process.
republicans across the country who are whining and complaining about that, the only question i ask is, well, why didn't you solidify behind a candidate if this candidate was so bad? you didn't, and this is the result. >> nick -- hold on. go ahead, michael. >> the other things is the house. he's got to manage a freedom caucus. he's got to manage other interests to make sure they hold on because at the end of the day, that's the stopgap against a hillary clinton agenda. at the end of the day, if everything else goes awry, that house has to stay there in place to make sure there is a check to a lot of the stuff that hillary clinton's going to want to push through. >> and on the other side of the agenda, if trump does win, if he pulls it out, who's in a position to control and dominate policymaking in washington? is it going to be the trump campaign which has a bare bones policy shop and no movement of wonks waiting in the wings? is it going to be the regulars, paul ryan on the hill, and it's
going to be -- i think they see an upside of a chance that they get to run the actual framework of an administration if trump wins. >> i guess i'm just incredibly naive. i figure if you're driving a car you like and you love that car and driving it, or if you think you kind of like it or maybe you have to drive the car. then the car like burst into flames and you're driving a car in flames, my choice is to get out of that car. it seems pretty simple. i guess people like driving cars that are on fire. that could drive our country into the ground. >> we'll see if paul ryan gets a new car -- >> real quick, you think that the republican party is just going to cede this election to hillary clinton? they'll say because of everything you described, the car's on fire, we don't like donald trump, here's god knows what, we're going to lay down and not -- >> michael, they've missed every opportunity to close in on this guy. they've missed every opportunity out of fear and being with usees. they've misseder -- wussies.
they've missed every opportunity. if there's any construct left, they have missed it on the side of principle. you're driving a car on fire, guys. that's all i have to say. who disagrees that this car is on fire? that this guy is completely -- >> the car's on fire, but you drive it until you can't drive it anymore. you can't just get out and abandon the car. >> wow. okay. >> they're bringing calming and soothing presences like newt gingrich and rudy giuliani to douse the flames. by the way -- think about this for a second, newt gingrich who's close to donald trump, was on the very, very shortest of short list to be vice president, yesterday said that donald trump is proving himself to be more unacceptable than hillary clinton. that's someone from his inner circle saying that. if that's not a red flag, i don't know what is. >> he tried to tweet and take it back later in the day. he was clear in the comment. >> i've got to go to break. car's on fire. >> john candy and steve martin
-- i know this was bad. >> we're laughing, but it is frightening. ahead on "morning joe," former presidential candidate, trump supporter dr. ben carson, joins us live. we'll see if he'll take part in the reported intervention. later, timing is everything. did the justice department object to sending hundreds of millions of dollars to iran at the same time four americans prisoners were being released? a good one. we have new reporting this morning from the "wall street journal." we'll be right back. excuse my voice.
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hillary clinton has begun planning her transition to the white house. according to "the new york times," she's tapped campaign chairman john podesta and minion moore to lead the effort. in her latest attack against trump, clinton is targeting the republican nominee for outsourcing production on some of his signature products.
on the campaign trail yesterday and new political ad, she calls out trump for making many of his products overseas. >> when donald trump is asked about where he makes things, he makes them anywhere else but america. you know, his ties, his suits, his shirts, his furniture, his barware, made all over the world. bangladesh, turkey, slovenia, mexico. and when asked about that, he said, well, we don't make that stuff in america. well, i'm here to tell you, donald, you're wrong. [ applause ] >> a line of clothing, where were these made? >> these were made -- i don't know where they were made. they were made someplace. it's great. ties, shirts, cufflinks, everything sold at macy's, they're doing great. >> where are the shirts made? bangladesh. >> good -- good for people in bangladesh. they have to work, too. >> these are beautiful ties. made in where, china?
ties many in china. [ laughter ] >> that's an ad from hillary clinton's campaign. by the way, you've got to miss dave with stuff like that. >> come back, please. >> we love colbert but miss dave. >> yeah. >> nick, this has been out there for several months. we've heard criticisms of trump talking about jobs, keeping them, bringing back to america and making products overseas. hillary clinton introducing this to a larger general election audience. >> yes. so i think these attacks did not work very well against trump in the primary. >> right. >> i think what we've learned is that there's a hard core of trump voters who believe him over anybody and everything else, and nothing can move them. a general election is very different. i'm sure that hillary clinton's polling has told her this resonates with a bigger audience who she wants to reach in a general election. going hard at it with the ad, and her stump speeches, as well. >> it goes, katty, to his business acumen, his hypocrisy is what the clinton campaign would say, that the thrust of his campaign is nationalism,
making america great, bringing the jobs back. yet, he doesn't practice it himself. >> yeah. and the clinton campaign say they're seeing numbers that show that as people move from i just want to protest-type attitude to right now i have to make a real decision-type attitude, then that's when these kind of ads and these -- this kind of information can influence them to move toward a more what the clinton campaign hopes is a more reasonable, rational pro-clinton-type decision. they say people are shifting that. it seems amazing to me that after a year anyone is left to make up their minds. you'd of thought with so much information and so much exposure everybody must have made up their mind. if people went into this thinking i'm going to protest, i'm so angry, any change is better than nothing, and then the drip, drip, of actually is this person electable, do i want this person running the country, is he reasonable, is he telling the truth, maybe that's when
this ad can have some impact. >> you know, we showed that fox news poll that has hillary clinton with a ten-point national lead, mark. i'm looking through the cross tabs. she's still at 36% honest and trustworthy. remarkable for somebody with a ten-point lead. >> she said on election day she can win with numbers like that because of the nature of the choice. you know, it's going to be interesting to see how donald trump responds to attack a fox poll. harder to attack a cnn or nbc poll because of his relationship with fox. a new michigan poll shows her with a big lead. you know, what nick said, that issue of outsourcing is going to be an issue they'll pound in michigan if the race ends up being close. trump's bragging about michigan being a big state for him. and numbers aren't there now. mike dukakis was up 17 points. trump can come back, but not until he changes his performance. >> i know so many republicans, hard-core republicans, who are voting for clinton. just can't do.
it i don't understand the -- aren't leaders supposed to lead even when it's hard? >> well, you get the skitzoid nature of the poll. you reference the trustworthy number, yet qualified to be president. hillary clinton, 65%, donald trump, 43%. his temperament to effectively serve as president. hillary clinton, 64%. donald trump, 37%. >> yeah. >> i mean, people are all over the lot on this. >> nick? >> it was telling that i thought he was consulting against with cory lewandowski, famously the adviser with the -- donald should be donald strategy. it seems that he's going back to his comforted zone and what got -- comfort zone and what got him here is i'll pick a fight with anybody, i don't have to be an expert, i tell the truth. that's his personality in this campaign. it's hard for him to get away from it apparently. >> no regrets or apologies. >> no regrets, no apologies. coming up, a new first. a u.s. law enforcement officer
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welcome back to "morning joe." one woman is dead, another five people injured after a man went on a stabbing spree in london.
reports of a man slashing at people emerged just after 10:00 p.m. local time last night in russell square. police have arrested a 19-year-old man. a motive still unclear. >> early indications suggest that mental health is a significant factor in this case, and that is one major line of inquiry. terrorism as a motivation remains but one line of inquiry for us to explore. >> the city is upping its police presence this morning as the day gets underway there. another american has been charged with trying to help isis. latest arrest capturing even more attention because the suspect is a transit officer in our nation's capital city. as nbc's justice correspondent pete williams reports, the accused is the first u.s. law enforcement officer to face such charges. >> reporter: police and federal agents searched the suburban washington home of nicholas young, a 13-year veteran of the d.c. area transit police, accused of helping a man he thought went overseas to join
isis but who was actually working undercover for the fbi. investigators say the fbi's been watching young and his house in fairfax, virginia, for nearly six years since a friend was arrested for trying to join a terror group in somalia and another friend was arrested for plotting to set off a bomb at the u.s. capitol. neighbors say they kept their distance. >> we knew something was weird about him. we just never expected it to be something like this. >> reporter: court documents say young was interviewed by the fbi five times over the years, telling them he collected nazi memorabilia, had a german eagle tattooed on his neck, and twice went to libya to join rebels fighting the gadhafi regime. investigators say he met 20 times with an fbi posing as an isis convert and bought $245 worth of gift cards the man requested to buy apps that scramble messages, making them possible to intercept. >> you have to look at all potential threats seriously and try disrupt those that appear to be developing in dangerous ways. >> reporter: no comment from
young who appeared briefly in court or his lawyer. the fbi says he told friends he was constantly on guard fearing he was under surveillance. apparently unaware that he really was. >> thank you. coming up next, the $400 million question -- what was the money flown to iran for? we'll speak with a "wall street journal" reporter who broke a story the obama administration is denying fiercely. back in a moment.
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the doj tells nbc's justice correspondent pete williams that it "fully support the ultimate outcome of the administration's resolution of several issues with iran. the payment was returning iranian cash, part of the settlement of a decades' long dispute over a failed arms deal." the state department also said "this was fully an interagency decision, and any claim that the state department had the four simply overrule is false." here's how josh earnest reacted yesterday. >> let me be clear, the united states does not pay ran volumes. the only person making -- ransoms. the only person making the accusation, at least in the "wall street journal" article, is an iranian official. >> that's absolutely not true -- >> they are now. it sounds to me like they are one again in a position where they are making the same argument as hard-liners in iran in an effort to undermine the iran nuclear agreement. >> last night in an interview
wur w o-- interview with our affiliate, kusa, hillary clinton shot down claims of a swap. >> so far as i know it had nothing to do with any hostage swap or any other tit for tat. it was something that was intended to, as i am told, pay back iran for contracts that were canceled when the shah fell. i think we know that the agreement has put a lid on iran's nuclear weapons program. i consider that to be a very positive step. we also know that our businesses want to now do business with iran. we're taking that very carefully. and we also know that there are outstanding legal challenges by the iranian government against the united states government and other u.s. specials. >> and on the trail in florida, donald trump claimed to have seen video from the iranian government of the money being delivered. >> you just wonder who's making
decisions like this where you take $400 million, they put it in small containers and probably pretty large containers actually, and bring it over to iran. and you say, who's making these decisions, whose decision is that? that's all emanating from one of the worst deals ever made in this country, the deal we made with iran, and that probably was hostage money, to get hostages out for $400 million because it was exact timing. our leaders are incompetent. over there where that plane landed, top secret, they don't have a lot of paparazzi. you know, the paparazzi doesn't do so well over there, right? [ laughter ] they have a perfect tape done by obviously a government camera. and the tape is of the people
taking the money off the plane, right? that means that in order to embarrass us further, iran sent us the tapes, right? it's a military tape. >> a trump spokesperson later clarified to the "washington post" that he had seen the footage earlier on television, which he believed was the money transfer. that video which you see here was actually of three of four american hostages being released from iran, arriving in geneva, switzerland. >> you've got to be kidding me. >> in january. >> what's wrong with him? what's wrong with him? joining us from washington, foreign affairs correspondent at the "wall street journal," jay solomon. he co-wrote the initial report for the paper. he's also the author of the forthcoming book "the irans: spy games, secret battles, and deals that reshaped the middle east." there's so much to sift through in this story. the followup about the doj's doubts on the front page of the "wall street journal." in your original piece, you've read into this, investigated
this as much as anybody. from where you're sitting, was there a ransom payment for the release of american hostages? >> the key to the story from the very beginning has been the mechanics of this transaction and the timing of it. the white house yesterday was say, well, there was nothing new. when the initial announcement was made that there was a settlement in january 17th, it was kind of a vague statement about we've reached a settlement for $1.7 billion, but you know, most reporters didn't really understand the mechanics of this court and the hague and when they'd get the money. it was going into some escrow account. would iranians be able to get it at some future date. none of that was clear. it also raised the questions immediately, was there some quid pro quo when you simultaneously announce the hostage release and the settlement. and after a lot of snooping over the last few months, we found out, yeah, cash was flown directly to tehran in euros,
swiss francs, and other currencies virtually simultaneously. the question the white house still won't answer was, what was the timing. were the americans allowed to leave before that cash arrived or not? and that is the crux of it. if it is the case and there's -- there's evidence to back that that these americans might not have been able to leave until the cash arrived. >> jay, it was the view of iran that it was a ransom payment. if you listened to some of the senior iranian defense officials being quoted in the press, they explicitly said it was cash for the release of these americans. >> yeah. the revolutionary guard general who very quickly came out and said this money was in return for the american spies, as he called them, the four and then eventually five americans who returned at the date. and you've got to remember, too, this fits into a longer cycle of how the iranians have operated with us going back to the 1979 revolution. the shore so interesting because
you -- the horace so something because you had the hostage crisis and iran contra making a cash weapons deal to get americans back from -- after being kidnapped in lebanon. you had under the obama administration during the first term the three hikers kidnapped on the iranian-iraq border. there was cash exchanged at that time to get them back. it's not like this is just an isolated case. there's a cycle here. and since the cash payment was made in january, two more iranian americans have been arrested. a third was already being held, and three european/canadian dual nationals are also -- i think they're even in prison. there's a cycle here that doesn't back up the white house line that this was just kind of some isolated financial transaction. >> katty kay? >> jay, put this in the context of the presidential campaign. we've already hillary clinton and donald trump weigh in on this in rather different ways.
is this -- does iran generally, does this incidence do you think have an impact on the campaign? >> trump has tried to tie it directly to hillary clinton which seems a bit of a stretch because she had been gone for three years by the time this transaction was made. clinton is on a sort of difficult balancing line on the iran deal because she did actually initiate in some ways the actual negotiations even though i don't know how supporters of the exact terms. but the iran issue is the one issue they're trying to tag clinton with, when it was the nuclear agreement or now this prisoner exchange. the fact that she had been gone basically for three years makes it did. iran has played a huge role in elections. in u.s. elections going back to 1980 when the hostages were released and some people saying the reagan administration made a secret pact with the iranians. so the diplomats didn't get
released until after the election. even the 2012 election year, there were stories percolate being secret talks between the americans and iranians which turned out to be true. so there's a lot of history of iran kind of playing in u.s. politics. >> and a lot of new information in your piece and a new one on the front page of the "wall street journal." jay solomon, thank you very much. "the iran wars," new book in stores next month. thanks. coming up, even more new polling out this morning shows states slipping away from donald trump after the convention. we'll talk about whether or not he could take republican senate candidates with him in places like new hampshire. >> why are they voting for him? >> back after this.
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dough is my voice. with us -- and so does my voice. with us, veteran columnist and tributor mike barnacle. managing editor of bloomberg politics, mark hallperin. how do you say hello in japanese? [ speaking japanese ] >> casey hunt, "new york times" reporter jeremy peters, former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele, and washington anchor for bbc, katty kay, welcome to the table. casey, if you're in a great car, it's working okay. people are excited. it's new, it's different. it doesn't do what other cars do. then it bursts into flames, okay, but it's still going down the highway. do you put the brakes on and get out of the car, or do you keep driving? >> is there a river nearby? >> there might be. >> i think might try to drive into the window. put down the window first. >> is that the van down by the
river? >> she made the car into chitty chitty bang bang. >> she made it into the van down by the river on "saturday night live." that is not good. >> you want to know what this looks like? >> what does this look like? >> your reference? take a peek. >> let's look. >> wow! great. great. [ siren ] cops, watch it! how fast are you going? >> i can't tell. the speedometer's not working. >> pell over. >> what the hell are you driving? >> we had a small fire last night, but we caught it in the nick of time. >> do you feel that this vehicle is safe for highway travel? >> yes, i do. i really do. i believe that. i know it's not everett look at, but it will -- not pretty to look at, but it will take you where you want to go. >> you have no outside mirror. >> we lost that. >> no functioning gauges. >> not a one. however, the radio still works. >> that's your party. that's your car. that's your candidate. we have new poll numbers out that might also help with this
intervention that needs to be had with the candidate. an intervention that says, please drop out of the race. let somebody else step forward. willie? >> he's going to pull the car into the shop -- >> no, the van down by the river into the shop. >> newt gingrich and chris christie will come in and fix it. >> really? >> get him back on the road. watch. >> calming. >> exactly. >> really? that mental image is incredible, by the way. >> donald trump has talked a lot about changing the electoral map. let's look at some of the polls out just this morning. "the detroit news" wdiv poll shows him trailing hillary clinton in michigan by nine points, 41-32 there. let's stwoiwing to new hampshir new poll by wbur shows hillary clinton up 15 points in a four-way race. secretary clinton at 47, trump at 32, gary johnson pulling 8 points. that poll had them basically tied in may. in pennsylvania, the franklin and marshall college poll shows hillary clinton up 11 points with likely voters. that's 49-38. meanwhile, fox news national poll shows clinton with a
ten-point lead over all, 49-39. mark, you brought some of these polls to our attention this morning. donald trump knows the electoral map is stacked against him in many ways and he's got to pick off states. he's talked about michigan, new hampshire. these numbers aren't great for him. >> he'd have -- he wouldn't have to win either michigan or new hampshire to get to 270. but without both of them, the path is tough. obviously pennsylvania, we talked about, is essential to his calculation. you know, she's not 50 in every one of these polls or any of them, but she's close. but to have one-third of the vote or less than 40%, it just -- it's not plausible right now for him to argue that he can win. again, i'll say and people on twitter don't like this, people have overcome much bigger leads. she's still a flawed candidate. he's done a horrible job. they had a great convention. he's got an opportunity here. people are right first and foremost to be skeptical that he
can turn it around given that he's had about the worst ten days of any candidate i can remember. >> michael steele, if you look at that new hampshire number, the principal goal to maintain the senate, kelly ayotte's gone. >> yeah. and the races like that concerns the senate committee, concerns the leadership in washington, which is why you're seeing the panic button. to mika's point about let's get out of the car, beginning to rise. these seats now become much more in play than they should be. look, some of these races were always going to be tough races, wisconsin, new hampshire, for those candidates, regardless of who the nominee was simply because of the make-up of the states. these are blue states in many cases for republicans. and it's a tough sell. but it becomes tougher when the top of your ticket, it become a drag. that's the concern that a lot of
folks looking at holding the senate have right now. new hampshire, numbers don't look good. i think here we are at the beginning of august. i think mark is making the most important point, is that there is still a lot of runway left here. >> yeah. >> for both these candidates in races like kelly ayotte's, as well as donald trump in his race. >> educate me. i'm completely lost. look at this right here, to your point, michael steele, kelly ayotte is losing possibly her senate seat. so is embracing trump going to help her? >> that's -- i mean, that's always been the trick for states like new hampshire. and soquel y -- so kelly ayotte and others in her position have from the beginning created that distance because they knew of the demographic hurdle that they had in the state.
they knew they were in trouble long before -- again because of the make-up. you know, i think a lot of people put much more weight on a trump presidential candidacy than they should because a lot of things were in play before donald trump became the nominee. and the blue wall that exists for republicans would have existed whether it was marco rubio, newt gingrich, or anyone else at the top of the ticket. there were some built-in hurdles that have always been there that the party had to overcome long before donald trump got the nomination. that's just now magnified by the fact that he has the nomination. >> kelly ayotte was also one of the people who came out probably earliest, clearly nervous around this idea of donald trump. new hampshire's kind of a funny example. it's not a diverse state. but i think particularly the events of the last week are probably going to have an impact there. military issues are very much central even for democrats in the state of new hampshire. i think that's what happening
with the khans probably impacted those numbers significantly. >> absolutely. >> that's what i'm wondering. at some point i -- i talk about the burning car. that is the burning car. when the khans came to the stage and trump followed up by the purple heart, followed up by lots of little things, just rudeness. there were deep-seated emotions that run through, course through the country. gold star parents, i mean, it starts and ends there. what republican could stand by that? what republican could keep going and say i'm going to vote for this guy? what republican could say i continue with my endorsement? why at that point does that not to leaders who can make an impact, perhaps at their own political peril, say we cannot stand by this person? we can't. i can't.
am i naive? >> you're making a case for principle over political pragmatism which is what a lot of american people agree with. >> isn't that what american people want? the difference they're looking for? they're not just looking for someone different who's crazy, who's going to nuke people. they want someone who's different, who's principled, who's going to keep their word, who's going to buck the trends in washington, who's going to get people to work together. that's the difference they want. they don't want crazy! >> a lot of people see that in donald trump, mika. >> no! what they're seeing now -- michael steele -- >> i know it may make your head spin -- >> no -- >> but that's the reality out there. >> it's up to you and me and -- it's up to you and my about mostly leaders in washington to say that's not what you're seeing. >> so what? that's not going to -- mika, the folks in washington are the ones these people are angry at. they're coming out abandoning donald trump. you think that's going to make them go, oh, i get it, now i'm going to follow them? no. >> do you think, michael steele, running after donald trump like a lemming is going to make
people love them more? how about finally, finally being leaders of principle? >> this isn't about their individual leadership. people don't care what paul ryan says about -- >> i think it is. have you seen the polls? >> in large measure, they're not following paul ryan on this. you think -- you think that they're following paul ryan because paul ryan took the position on donald trump? paul ryan would stake this position on donald trump because of the very people who could turn the house over, who could have a big impact on this election to the negative for the party. that's what -- they're following the people. the people aren't following them on this. >> a couple of days ago, donald trump said he's not ready to endorse paul ryan in his race there in wisconsin. governor mike pence broke with the man at the top of his ticket yesterday by endorsing speaker paul ryan in his re-election bid. he t came that day after donald trump declared he was not yet ready to do it. >> i talked donald trump this
morning about my support for paul ryan, our longtime friendship. he strongly encouraged me to endorse paul ryan in next tuesday's primary. i'm pleased to do it. >> speaker ryan getting support from plenty of people in wisconsin including ron johnson, locked in his own tough re-election battle. he said, "paul ryan is a man of intelligence, integrity, ideas, and courage. i fully support him." wisconsin's governor, scott walker, throwing his support behind ryan tweeting, "we stand with paul ryan." mike pence was announced as trump's vice presidential pick less than three weeks ago. already the running mate has distanced himself from the top of the ticket on several occasions. there's yesterday's endorsement of paul ryan, his denouncement of russian interference in the 2016 election which trump refused to do. >> right. >> on friday, he decried name-calling as having no place in public life, mike pence did. pence said he would try to end the media blacklist trump imposes on outlets that displease him. he praised the khan family on monday as trump was still
criticizing their "vicious attacks against him." and governor pence met with john mccain just hours after trump said he would not endorse him. joining us from kenosha, wisconsin, political reporter for the "washington post" and msnbc political analyst bob costa. this is very interesting. in many ways when you watch the campaign on an hour-by-hour basis, it looks like governor pence is running a parallel campaign to donald trump's. >> reporter: it is a parallel campaign. it's an ideological movement, conservative campaign running alongside this populus conservatism of donald trump. i think right here in kenosha, wisconsin, you're seeing the republican divide. ryan, the house speaker, is coming face to face not only with donald trump but the trump movement. paul nehland running against him in the upcoming tuesday primary is running hard in a personal race against ryan, calling him a globalist, an elitist. it's part of the whole rough and tumble of year 2016. >> i think it's fair to say,
bob, so the audience understands, that it will still be a long shot if paul ryan lost, right? >> it would be. wisconsin's different than, say, virginia where eric canter lost in a stunning upset in his primary in 2014. and wisconsin, of course, went for senator cruz in the primary, and paul ryan's done a lot of constituent service, he remains par lar in the district, private polls -- popular in the derick. private polls show paul ryan ahead of his opponent. you have the swirling storm of politics here that candidate paul nehland, yesterday in kenosha, he was railing against ryan on illegal immigration. part of the whole gop divide where it's establishment versus grassroots, so-called globalist conservatives like paul ryan, that's how he's being defined pie his opponents, verse -- by his opponents, versus the more trump-type conservative republican. >> you have close contacts in the trump campaign. what is donald trump up to in the case of paul ryan?
why is he going out of his way to tell the "washington post," to tell you guys that he's not ready to endorse paul ryan, to tweet nice things about ryan's primary appointment? is there a strategy here? >> reporter: there's not so much a strategy, but a reaction. it's a very telling one by donald trump. he is someone who enjoys praise. he enjoys when political figures come to him and praise him. that's what paul nehland has done, soliciting donald trump's support, voicing support for donald trump. and when paul ryan was reluctant to endorse, trump remembers that. he keeps a list in his head who've hasn't endorsed, who said certain things. to throw ryan's own phrasing back at him, i'm just not there yet, i'm just not there yet, that's a classic trump political move. it shows he's not a party man. mike pence, he's a party man. >> i think we have the understatement of the campaign, donald trump is someone who enjoys praise, said bob casta. in kenosha, thank you very much. >> with a straight face. good stuff.
jeremy peters is with us, as well. jeremy, to mika's point, what are some of these congressional republicans, senate republicans to do with donald trump at this point? i'm talking about paul ryan, but i'm also talking about kelly ayotte, john mccain? is there a breaking point for them? >> i think where it gets dicey and where you're starting to see a lot of republicans really panic is what happens in the seats, in the races where they assumed that they were going to win. i mean, you throw in the mix states like north carolina. you throw in states like iowa where chuck grassley is in a competitive race. you're talking about not just the loss of four seats. could be talking about ten. and if donald trump is running behind hillary clinton by about four, five, six points, that's easy for somebody like a pat toomey or a kelly ayotte to overcome. but if it's ten points, that -- that's almost unheard of. right now, the split ticket
voting that you're seeing with people, republicans voting for kelly ayotte but also supporting hillary clinton, voting for marco rubio but supporting hillary clinton for the general, it's -- that we haven't seen this level since the 1980s. and it's -- a question of how much more destructive trump is to his own campaign. and how much -- how much he continues to lose control of the narrative. think about what's happened over the last few days. where is hillary clinton right now? does anybody know? she's completely vanished from the radar. and we are only talking about donald trump. and as you ask republicans what they -- what they think about the race right now, one of the things they'll say is, look, whoever this election is about because the candidates are both so unpopular loses, and right now it's about donald trump.
>> joining us from jacksonville, nbc news correspondent hallie jackson. another day on the trump campaign. what can we expect today? >> reporter: let's do a couple of things. he's up in new england. he's got to stop up in maine and got to stop in upstate new york which is raising eyebrows. people think those aren't the key states, you'd think he'd be in pennsylvania, ohio. they're looking at one of the congressional district. remember they split electoral votes, it's a place where they could pick something off. an area where trump could do well. it should be noted the location of the town hall is not actually in that district. regardless, that's what trump is up to today. let's talk about where he has been as far as the bigger picture in this campaign. we've been talking about this idea of a potential, what are call, what we've been calling an intervention, that top trump supporters like rudy giuliani will be coming in, trying -- hoping to at least, to try to tell donald trump, listen, you got to moderate your tone, stop
going after republicans, stop going after people like gold star families. there's a real sense of concern, almost panic in the republican party, as jeremy was talking about. when you look at the numbers, the new swing state polls out, you see hillary clinton's post-convention bounce looking very real. starting to trickle down into some states. and frankly, concern that if it's a more than ten-point window for donald trump, if he loses to clinton in november, it's going to have a massive impact down ballot. i would say two other quick things. one, the clinton campaign trying to take advantage, courting republicans, independents. you see what happened with meg whim. now there's word that seth -- meg whitman. now there's word that there's a top donor on the republican side defecting, saying he cannot support donald trump because of the comments. the other point, you know i'm at the rallies all the time. trump's supporters are shrugging this off in a big way. they simply don't care. one person said to our team yesterday, hey, donald trump's in trouble with the republican
elites, not the regular republicans like me, the blue-collar men and women that make up the base of his support. whether or not this is -- all this, the controversy after controversy is going to have an impact on trump with his base is a question mark. although you have seen slippage, at least in our new online tracking poll this week, among white men and among those with no college education. people who previously, during the primaries, made up a substantial part of his support. >> those are still big energized crowds you saw last night in florida. hallie jackson, thank you very much. >> thank you. michael steele, you still there? >> yeah. i'm here. >> for these republicans who are facing re-elections at some point, here's a checklist -- you're a republican, right? okay, and you're a real republican. has donald trump demonstrated that he knows anything about foreign policy, yes or no? >> no. >> would he really make us safer, yes or no? >> i don't know what that means, so i -- i can't answer that. i don't know what that means. >> does he defend patriots from what we've seen?
>> does he defend patriots? >> patriots, people who are extremely patriotic, gold star moms -- >> i think overall the answer -- i think overall the answer to that would be yes in the eyes of a lot of his supporters. >> really? >> yeah. >> will he keep his words and promises to fellow republicans? what lose what has he demonstrated so far? >> to fellow republicans? i don't think his base cares if he keeps his word to fellow republicans -- >> like, i promise to back paul ryan's initiative for the poor? >> i think on those types of policy things, i think he would. >> you think he would keep his word? >> i think he's going to rely on ryan in the house and mcconnell in the senate to help further that agenda, yeah. >> is he a republican? >> no. >> okay. interesting checklist. half the columns are -- >> mika? bernie sanders wasn't a democrat. >> he's not running for president. >> this is my point.
what does it say about an electorate that is more gravitating toward the person outside of the system? the problem bernie sanders had was timing. and the luck of the draw. that could have been a very different race if bernie sanders caught fire earlier in the process. the only point, the voters out there are sending a very different signal to the establishment. i think that hallie made my point that i was trying to convey earlier. the base doesn't see the problem with them. they see the problem that trump is having with the establishment. and that's okay by them. >> still ahead on "morning joe," nbc news political director chuck todd joins the conversation. and later, dr. ben carson is our guest. we'll see if he believes the trump campaign is in need of some tough love. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.
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i just want to tell you the campaign is doing really well. it's never been so well united. we started on june 16th. i would say right now it's the best in terms of being united
that it's been since we began. >> joining us from washington, nbc news political director and moderator of "meet the press" and host of mtv daily, chuck todd. online editor of "the weekly standard," michael warren. former adviser to senator rand paul, contributor it "time" magazine and msnbc political analyst elise jordan. good to have you on board. chuck todd, educate me. what's going on with this intervention? why don't republican leaders jump out of a burning car? >> the best way to focus is republican leaders in washington think folks that have been grudgingly trying to make this work with trump are just hoping they can repeat the pattern that they thought temporarily worked before. when they wanted to get rid of lewandowski and get paul ma
manafort in there. when trump wanted to go one way on the running mate and there was a concerted effort saying, no, you've got to get conservatives, appease them a little, go with penn. they went to the kids, they went -- this is what this is about. one last time, go to the kids and get them. >> chuck, you can't control what comes out of his mouth. >> reporter: that said, i had the same reaction you had. i said, you really think he's going to change? and then believe it or not, i've had multiple conversations going, well, maybe we can convince him to withdraw. and i was just -- it was sort of, really? i know -- i think that's fantasy land. that's fantasy talk. i think at a minimum they can get him to stop attacking fellow republicans. ultimately that's what i think they think is one doable things they think with him. do they think they can get him to be a disciplined candidate? no. if they can get him to stop
attacking fellow republicans on a daily basis -- >> wait a minute -- >> they think they'll make mild success. >> that's small thinking. extremely tiny thinking because the people he's attacking beyond fellow republicans are far more important to how a leader leads in this country. and the tone he's going to set in this country. and he's setting a very dangerous tone. my question is, why do republican leaders care about whether or not they are nice to him? okay? >> i think it's a total -- i think it's one of those -- there are people that think if they abandon him, it's worse for the party than if they somehow limp to the finish line together. there are plenty of republicans who are starting to believe what you believe, which is, no, it's worse to be with them. >> it's worse. >> this goes to the whole debate that ultimately i think the parties have in this debate -- and i've used this metaphor before -- do you believe donald
trump's a stain on the party or a tattoo, right? if you believe he's a stain, you can wash it away, move on after the election. if you believe he's a tattoo, then you don't want to be associated with him. i think it depends where you stand. >> at what point do republicans who are either up for re-election or in office right now say they want to limp to the finish line with that? >> i think -- >> because what is sort of the darkness that perhaps is being unveiled or brought back by this candidacy? by the words that come out of the candidate's mouth? okay, do they want to be a part of that? we are going back in time, and if anybody doesn't agree with that, you really need to look at what he's saying and what types of forces he's igniting in this country with his language. >> i mean, i completely agree. i think he's bringing out the worst of our country, not the best right now. and i think that you look at what the republicans are doing with this so-called intervention. even that language is negative language. the fact that they're talking
about it publicly, an intervention, that is not language that can make donald trump happy. this is really more of a political human resources activity than anything. just cover their tracks, have the meeting, 30 days before you want to fire the guy. later you can say, oh, we did this. it's like having sexual harassment training at fox news. it's pointless. it's just for show, for legal, for covering your tracks. >> michael warren, i know paul ryan's job is more complicated than some of the others here because he's got to try to hold the party together as speaker of the house. do you think there will be high-profile republicans who have endorsed donald trump, who will watch what's been happening the last couple of weeks and maybe what's in the next couple of weeks and say i'm out, i can't do this anymore, or do they ride to the finish line with him? >> it's hard to say. donald trump -- i think in deciding to withhold his endorsement from people like paul ryan, john mccain, actually makes that even harder for them. because of all the string of things that donald trump has done that are reprehensible and bad for the party, are they
really going withhold their endorsement or wall the-- or withdraw their endorsement because they have a problem with him? i think ultimately they have to be looking now -- this is what paul ryan has said publicly about why he's supporting the nominee. they're caring about now the senate majority and house majority and trying to protect that. that's why you're hearing all this talk about an intervention. it's less about saving donald trump who i think a lot of washington republicans figure he -- he is not going to win in november. it's about sort of preserving what they have now. but there is this bigger question that mika's bringing up and i think others are bringing up. sort of the soul of the party. and what does the party look like even if it loses with donald trump in november and maybe holds on to the senate and the house. sell that, as chuck says, a tattoo -- is that, as chuck says, a tattoo? i think republicans are waking up, they've got a hangover after spring break and realizing, wait
a minute, what did i get on me last night? a day late and a dollar short. >> that's -- what did i get on me last night? >> the trump campaign is so obsessively focused on donald trump or at least donald trump is focused on donald trump that the clinton campaign has to be sitting there thinking, you know, we are the luckiest candidacy the democratic party has ever had. never mind the past two weeks. in a couple of days when you've had the $400 million drop in tehran as an issue, the trump campaign seemingly cannot get to, i mean, have you ever in your memory encountered a luckier campaign than the clinton campaign? >> it was something, in philadelphia last week the theory of the case that democrats who i thought seemed pretty confident about winning in november would put forward is one that they have a much better organization than donald trump does. two, that their candidate got lucky getting donald trump as the opponent. and they're well aware of that.
there's always -- and that when you put it against what michael steele was saying earlier, the fact that this a very flawed candidate. every republican you neat -- you meet. i think that's partly why they're reluctant to ditch donald trump. they will all say this is a flawed candidate, an election we should win. hillary clinton is beatable. i think they're clinging to a vague hope that even with donald trump and his bad ground game, his bad candidacy, his bad attitude, they can still beat hillary clinton because he is hated so much. i think that's one thing that the clinton campaign is underestimating perhaps, that out in so many of these areas, in ohio and pennsylvania, there's a real hatred of hillary clinton. i mean, they really, really hate her. you've heard it. i've heard it. and that perhaps is what's, you know, keeping some republicans in the trump car, even as it's bursting into flames. >> okay. i guess that's one way of putting it. chuck todd, mike warren, elise
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definitely understands the people he'll be leading. people who have sacrificed more than myself, like the khan family." meyer added, "donald trump has done so great. he goes around and makes people feel like they're back on top. the hope is that donald trump needs to step up and get focused and be the great leader that i know he can be. donald trump is the only hope we have for change." and last night at his rally in jacksonville, trump called attention to a gold star family, several of them actually, who were in attendance. >> just a little while ago i met with the gold star families. i met with six families that were -- just incredible people. a gentleman handed me a check and said, you know, mr. trump, this is for your campaign. and i said you don't have to do that. he goes, i do. he said, it's more money, and i haven't even opened it yet, i don't think i'll tell you how much it is actually, but he said it's more money -- wow. he said, it's more money -- more
money than we can afford. but i want you to have it for your campaign. [ applause ] >> obviously a response to the whole khan situation. is there a sense inside the trump campaign or donald himself that this has been greatly damaging to his prospect, or do they think this is just a bump in the road? >> i think there is something that is going to last much longer than many of these other controversies or something that's really playing a role in this race, kind of settling as we head into the end of the summer and labor day. i mean, i will say listening to donald trump over the course of the last couple of weeks, he's demonstrated what frankly a lot of americans have demonstrated over the last ten years which is that most people are pretty disconnected from the sacrifices that a lot of the people who have been involved in these wars have made -- >> 1%. 1%. >> such a small number of people bearing this burden. and most people don't know how
to talk about it. they don't know how to approach it. i think trump is displaying that here. and i think one advantage for people who have served in government, hillary clinton, for example, watched her husband make some of these decisions. they understand what it's like to be a person who made a decision that ultimately, you know, ended somebody else's life. that's a weighty things and something that you can't come to without experience. >> so jeremy peters, to bring you back into the conversation, i'm trying to -- look, trump supporters, people who support donald trump are -- are people who should be respected for how they feel. i worry that they don't understand that they're being scammed. and that they're being scammed by someone who's really good at it. so it's not like it's their fault. but i will say it's a scam, what trump is selling. talking to gold star families
after the biggest gaffe in probably presidential politics, candidacies, history, what he did with the khans is trying to clean up. i mean, do you want someone who speaks from the heart and says nothing or says anything? or do you want someone who speaks from the heart and has some principle behind it and sticks to his word? this is a scam. and it seems like he has a lot of followers, jeremy. >> there is a real risk in alienating those followers. i think especially among whites without college degrees who have been his strongest base of support. when you start insulting military families, that is -- that group are those people. those -- many families in the military are whites without college degrees. i spoke yesterday with a i -- a diehard supporter of trump who speaks to him quite regularly. for the first time i heard a sense of anxiety in his voice
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there's a conflict within the trump campaign. we've had a rule of not getting involved in primaries because it's usually not a good situation for the presidential candidate. of course he's going to work with paul ryan. of course he's tried to bridge the party together with paul ryan. ryan is also running against somebody who's not going to win. nonetheless is a strong supporter of mr. trump's. >> that was trump campaign chairman paul manafort explaining why the republican nominee cannot back the speaker of the house in his primary this tuesday. joining us is former republican presidential candidate dr. ben carson, currently advising republican presidential nominee donald trump. dr. carson, it's great to have you with us as always, sir. we've been showing new poll, one
from fox news has hillary clinton up nationally by ten points. more troubling perhaps for the trump campaign, swing state polls in places like new hampshire and michigan that show donald trump now trailing by wider margins than he ever has. what does donald trump need to do if you think he does need to do anything to turn this around? >> i think the most important things is to focus on the issues. that's where his strength is, to be able to talk about the economy because it's going to be very difficult for his opponent to make the economy look good. i know they will try to redefine things. it's just not going to work if you give people the actual facts. you know, when it comes to unemployment rate, it's claimed to be 5% or lower. he suld get some ross perot-type charts and show that you can make that number anything you want depending on who you include and exclude, and that the labor force participation rate is the real number. and explain to people what this is. this is really the key.
he has to begin to educate the american people and stay on the issues and not allow himself to be dragged off into the hint hinterlands because that's what his opponents would like a lot republicans, where in a week donald trump was focused on a gold star family? >> yes. it would be a very good thing to just pivot always to the issues. you know, i would love him to carry around a little card in his pocket and every time he is asking about something that wants to drag him off he pulls that up and says no mud. let's talk about the issues. we need to keep focusing on that. this is not a democrat or republican issue. you know, the fiscal issues that face us, the terrorism issues, the deteriorating school system,
they effect all americans. we have to talk about the facts and talk about why one believes what they believe. >> dr. carson, if we asked 100 republicans what donald trump would do i think 100 would give the same answer you did. is he not talking about it because he is not disciplined? >> i think he is learning. you know, i identify very much with him. you know, i was like that many years ago. if i felt attacked i just couldn't let it go. i had to attack back. later on i learned that real strength is being able to ignore who someone else says and move towards your goal. >> so what do you think of the tone of donald trump's campaign at the moment then? the way he spoke about the khan
family but calling hillary clinton the devil. is that the kind of tone you would like him to be using? >> no. i would like to see, again, and i can't emphasize it enough, both sides begin to actually discuss the issues that are effecting our future. i'm worried about our children and grandchildren and people coming behind us. already the debt service is our third our fourth largest annual expense as the government. soon it will be the second or third and then it will be the first or the second. we can't do that to the people who are coming behind us. these are big issues. why are we not talking about this? >> given that you don't like the tone, you don't like the tactics and you don't like what you have seen especially since the convention -- and there are many
on the inside, i know myself firsthand that are trying to get him to do exactly what you're talking about. so given that he is not, do you think that he is fit to be president? >> i'm not sure that he is not listening. i talked to him very recently. and he is listening. i think you'll see him focusing much more on the issues and on his opponent and not allowing himself to be dragged off into the bushes. >> and this has been tried before. he hasn't listened in the past. we talked to you and they say he is going to start listening. it hasn't happened. it has only gotten worse. >> well, frequently it's a progression. you know, people don't necessarily change overnight. as we get closer to the election, by necessity you have to at some point begin to talk
about the issues. you know, i would encourage those of you in the news media to take the bull by the horns and say look, guys, let's get away from all of this silly stuff and let's talk about the issues. force a discussion on the issues. it is very important. we are trying to desicide what kind of nation we are going to be. are we going to be a nation formed by the people? it is an important decision that will have incredible ramifications for the future. >> has donald trump ever reached out for help? you think it is something he does? >> you know, we recently have been engaged in a conversation about talking to the demographics that have traditionally not been reached out to by the republican party and what can be done to bring
people out of dependency and give them a part of the american dream. there are some solid things that can be done to do that. we'll start talking about those a great deal more. >> in your career you have had to deal with many families who you have been working with and helping with medically. i'm curious, why do you think donald trump running for president and people like to think people who are their presidents have some sense of their lives -- why do you think donald trump finds it so difficult to speak to loss? >> to speak to who? >> to loss, to lose a son or daughter in combat, to lose your home, to loss. we showed a clip of donald trump in florida. he started talking about gold star families and quickly equ e equated the gold star meeting to money. he had a check from a gold star
family. why do you think it is so tough for him to speak to loss? >> i don't accept that it is difficult for him to speak for loss. >> why has he done it? >> he has done it. >> when? >> if you look back you'll see it. he will begin to put out many of the stories that i'm very familiar with of things that he has done to help people who have been in very very difficult situations. you know, he feels that, you know, that's self-praise and he doesn't want to do it. i would love for it to come out. >> you said they have and now you're saying you're looking forward to them. i personally know donald trump and i know a lot of amazing really kind acts he has done one on one with people. the candidate that i see is not the person i know. i feel that you're speaking
about someone but you don't really have facts to back it up. you say he speaks to loss and that he has. tell us where. tell us when. >> you just said yourself you're aware. >> i'm aware of acts. i'm asking has he been able to speak of loss and connect can someone else's loss. tell us where. tell us wlechbhen. >> well, he has talked about enormous loss we have had in this country by allowing radical islamic extremists to run without having a kcoherent plan to destroy them. the implications for all families who are losing service members is significant. >> dr. ben carson, thank you. up next after a string of
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winning, okay? >> assured. good morning everybody. it is thursday, august 4th. how do i sound? >> much better today. >> okay. hopefully it lasts. i have lemon water with me here. joe is off. we have mike barnicle. mark halperin, how are you? >> good morning. >> i loved watching your show yesterday. it is so good. >> thank you. >> i like watching your show. >> speak out. >> i did. i sent in a letter. political analyst and former chairman of republican national committee, michael steele. >> it is a something show.
>> and in washington caddy joins us. >> have any of you participated in an intervention? >> i have. >> a formal one. >> a formal one that is in deep trouble. >> the success rate isn't very high. >> a person, just a person, one person, have you ever had an intervention where you had to get around with everybody that loves the person and try to tell them what they doing that is killing them? >> by the time you get around to doing the intervention it is usually too late. >> and the response is usually what? >> denial. >> rejection. >> anger. >> i thought you guys were my friend. >> never speak to you again. such a relief.
>> those went well for you, didn't they? >> a friend of mine had a serious drug problem and he blamed cnn. >> we kind of understand. joking. after national polls showing trump slipping to hillary clinton, after trump's ongoing feud with gold star parents during the first days of the general election, after trump's refusal to back party icons like speaker paul ryan the talk yesterday was whether the candidate was in need of an intervention and whether top allies would compel the nominee to make a dramatic reset of his campaign. sources tell nbc news former new york city mayor and ex-house
speaker who spoke out yesterday. >> i don't know if it is a fixable problem but i think it's a very big moment for trump. he has got to find a way to slow down, really learn some new lessons. it's a little bit like the apprentice except she the apprentice -- he is the apprentice, he is not the boss. >> focused. the campaign is moving forward in a positive way. the only need for an intervention is for media types who keep saying things that aren't true. >> i talk to donald trump just about every day. look, you're always going to hear these inside baseball discussions. this campaign is totally focused on strengtsenning america. >> they tell u.s. news and world report that trump has increasingly been back in
regular contact with his former campaign manager. an unidentified campaign staffer says trump was alarmed by a call he received last week from a senior adviser who hemewarned t nominee you are not going to win. the call was from jerrad jerrad cushner. >> many are advising you to focus your attacks on hillary clinton. they say you are being baited. >> i think that's probably right, more focus on hillary clinton. she is a disaster. we'll focus more on hillary clinton. absolutely. >> it is an interesting story line. i feel like we have watched this candidate again and again and again blow past stop signs and
do things that are -- well, you can't take them back. you can't refocus. an intervention won't help. we have kind of seen who he is and how he would lead. i think the bigger question is about republican leaders and if they are going to take a stand now and preserve what's left of their party and go down in flames in losing every bit of their principal, promises to their people and themselves and moral compass. >> whether it is friends calling him it is hard for me to see how to see going up to the top of trump tower and telling him what's what will change the way they have done business. >> he is not going to change. it is who he is. the idea that they will build the state by state organization, that's something you build over
a generation over years and years and years. it is little late to start building a presidential formal campaign. >> they are not going to take this nomination away from him. >> no. but he is also not out of it. is people around him who are rational and tactical would like to see him get back on track over the next couple of weeks. if he has a strong first debate he could be back in this race. it is so daunting. it is for us to be the democrats we have to run a perfect race. >> you're not doing that? >> states like colorado where a lot of republicans have already written it off, he is not leaving himself very much of a margin of error. >> michael steele, what would you tell donald trump three
months out? >> i would start with the one question, do you want to be president. if the answer to that is yes then you need to start acting like it. right now to the points made around the table you're losing this election. listen to your brother-in-law, you're losing this election. not only are you gilosing it, you're giving it away. you're leaving things on the table that you can take to the democrats. it's not about you. it's not about show boating. it's not about a primary you beat 15 other guys at. this is from what you will do in the middle east to how you're going to grow jobs. that's the focus you need to have. if you want this job you better tell the american people you want it and start acting like it otherwise this is over. we'll focus on holding the house and making the other gains we
need to rebuild after you're done with this. >> we say what we see. i saw that he would win the nominati nomination. you can see a lot of things here. we get use to it because we watch it close up. mark halperin, is this a candidate that want to win? is this a candidate that flips around the purple heart and disgraces himself in front of gold star families especially those who really have given the ultimate and went on stage? he took the bait like child. is this a candidate who wants to win or is getting bored and child like. >> no, sir rational way to explain it. >> does it look like somebody
that wants to win? >> he has an obligation to the party. he ran for the nomination. he has an obligation to not hurt the other people. there is no textbook who that tells you here is how you win a race in a general election if 70% of your base is mad at you. 70% of you do does not want them to denounce donald trump. >> maybe it is about leading and maybe in the end you'll be right and maybe that's a lrisk you ca take. >> paul ryan feels his obligation is not to let hillary clinton have this house majority. most of the house members are in districts that are heavily republican. >> they also run the risk of transforming this country in a really negative way. >> so with all of this in the
background trump was greeted by huge crowds, 8,000 in daytona beach and another 10,000 in jacksonville. he spoke optimistically about his chances while reminding republicans what makes him so unique. >> i want to tell you the campaign is doing really well. it has never been so well united. we started on june 16th. i would say right now it is the best in terms of being united that it's been since we began. you know, the route to the white house for the republicans is much more difficult. you know that. you look at the maps. you look at the maps. and yet for me, not being your typical republican, i guess, we have a lot of states in play. i think we'll do great in michigan. most republicans would never stop for dinner in some of these
states. i don't want to tell you what the states are. they have a lot of money. they will start advertising, they will show the golf shot. at least they gave me -- hey, my swing looked good. if i were them i would have picked a bad looking swing where i'm falling over. i have those too. at least my swing looked good. thank you, hillary. >> a new poll spells some trouble for the rust-belt strategy. it shows hillary clinton clinton leading 49-38 after a poll last week that shows clinton beating trump by 9 points in pennsylvania. 20 electoral college votes are esz sensual. it shows hillary clinton with a 10-point lead. the latest in a string of descending numbers for trump. clinton has obama-like margins with women voters, 57-34.
hispanic voters where clinton is up 68-20. trump's dominant groups includes men. his lead is 45-40. he has a ten-point advantage among white voters and white voters without a college degree. a new national poll taken over the month of july shows secretary clinton with a 48-point lead among hispanics. trump is at 18% in the florida university poll. it is a drop off from romney's 27% in 2012 and john mccain in 2008 and george w. bush narrowed the gap among hispanics to 9 points in 2004. >> this is one of the most dangerous things. the republican party sounds like
four years ago in late october, forget all of the polls. we are drawing 10,000. we are drawing big crowds. we must be winning. if that's the complacency they will lose on a landslide. >> it is pennsylvania. if he can't overperform in pennsylvania he will not win this presidency. they have an idea of a special three-state strategy but pennsylvania is one of those states where his idea is i can bring in voters who have not been there before. i can overperform. if he can't win them he can't be president. >> and he had a sanders-like performance raids raising a lot of money. >> yes. we heard if he can just get his act together he could clean up, that the appetite was out there for those donors. it looks as if those and
partnership providing the technical background for him to do it. there was a big suppressed appetite. it is really there. he might be, you know, sanders-type candidate. it is a big deal. >> michael steele. he raised all of this money in this last quarter. he has no ground game at least that we have been told about. he has no sophisticated get out to vote operations. what is he going to do with all of the money? >> i think a lot of that will go to the down ballot races that are on the radar screens. we'll see some of that money. they do have organizations on the ground. they have always had those in place. they have been building that for the past 18 months or so. it you do expect the presidential campaign to have an
infrastructure for that, but the party does as well. it has been in place for quite some time. a lot of those dollars will go there. i do have a question for mark. that is, looking at those poll numbers, you know, if we are looking at a double digit, you know, lead for hillary clinton in places like colorado, pennsylvania, florida, that this is the path you can't overcome eventual lie. it will set in place and be harder to overcome that sm. >> the first debate can make up 5 points on his own. i asked them, what's trump's floor? what's the lowest you get? he said about 40. that is where he is. in some polls he is not even at 40. you get we to labor day and if it's not a competitive race you're already seeing a lot from
republicans. let's try to keep the house and senate. so he doesn't have much time to figure out how to get above 40 and keep her above 50 or the psychology will become overpowering. he can do it but he has to get into the mid-40s in a lot of places. still ahead, in a galaxy far astray, we talk about delusion drama. first, the ties that bind. hillary clinton mocks donald trump for having a signature made overseas. belize was hit directly. it was a hurricane when it made land fall. it should stay very weak and we are safe in the united states and much of mexico will get
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outsourcing production for signature products. in a new political ad she calls out trump for making many of his products overseas. >> when donald trump is asked about where he makes things he makes them any where else but america. oh, his ties, suits, shirts, furniture, his bar wear made all over the world, turkey, mexico. he said we don't make that stuff in america. i'm here to tell you, donald, you're wrong. >> where were these made? >> these were made -- i don't know where they were made but they are great. it is ties, shirts, cuff links sold at macy's. >> where are the shirts made? >> bangladesh. >> they are beautiful ties.
>> the ties are made where? china. >> that's an ad from hillary clinton's campaign. you got miss dave. >> dave, come back. we have heard trump talking about jobs and making his products overseas. hillary introducing this to a larger general election office. >> yes. i think what we learned is there is hard core voters who believe him over everything else and nothing can move them. a general election is very different. i'm sure it has told her it rez c r -- >> and it goes caddy to his
hypocrisy is what the clinton campaign would say. the thrust of the campaign is nationalism, bringing jobs back and he doesn't practice it himself. >> and the childrlinton campaig saying they are seeing movement from i just want to protest to right now i have to make a real decision-type attitude then that's when these kinds of ads and this kind of information could influence them to move towards what they hope is a more reasonable pro clinton-type decision. it seems amazing to me that after a year anyone is left to make up their minds. you would have thought everybody must have made up their mind by now. if people went into this thinking i'm so angry, any change is better than nothing. the drip of well, actually is this person electable, do i want this person running the country?
is he reasonable? is he telling the truth? that's when they could have some sort of impact. >> you know, it has a ten-point national lead point. she is still at 36% honest and trustworthy. >> she would win with numbers like that because of the nature of the choice. you know, it will be interesting to see how donald trump responds because of his relationship with fox. that's new michigan poll that shows her with a big lead. that issue of outsourcing will be an issue if the race ends up being close. trump bragging about michigan being a big state for him. mi >> so many republicans, hard-core republicans, who are
voting for clinton. they just can't do it. i just don't understand. aren't leaders supposed to lead even when it's hard? >> you have the nature of that poll too. you reference the trustworthy number. hillary clinton 65% and donald trump 43%. it has temperament to effectively serve as president. hillary clinton 64%. donald trump is 37%. people are all over the lot. >> nick. >> it was telling he was consulting with corey who is famously with the donald should be donald strategy. it seems like he is going back to his comfort zone. what got him here was pick a fight with anybody. that is his whole personality. it is hard for him to get away
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as chairman of the campaign we have a position of not getting involved in primaries. paul ryan is a personal friend of mike pence. he nominated him for vice president. donald trump understood that relationship. i support him as a speaker and i know after next week i will support him for president -- >> really? >> there is talk about that. >> that was trump campaign manager paul manafort and whether he supports ryan in his upcoming primary. we are back with mike barnicle, mike halperin and katy tur. take it away.
lucky you. >> reporter: we have a good city today, absolutely. >> what's going on today? you just heard paul manafort. you know, i think you all -- i don't think he is the best representative of a positive campaign but maybe it's not a positive campaign. what's the plan? what's the strategy moving forward? >> reporter: you know, i spoke to the campaign a lot yesterday. there was really push back. there was an intervention or b that there's any sort of campaign turmoil. i was told donald trump is the outsider candidate. they pointed me repeatedly to their fundraising members, $82 million. it is a cig inform casignifican. donald trump can't seem to get himself away from controversy. they said there was something of a light in the tunnel, maybe a
sliver of light since donald trump isn't go on the attack yesterday. so whether this remains the case, whether donald trump reset day two continues we'll find out in a couple of hours here in portland. so far there is little hope donald trump can change in the long run because the gop has been burned so many times in the past. you guys mentioned another billionaire, gop leaning donor is deciding not to give his money to donald trump. that follows meg whitman. also the coke brothers are still snubbing donald trump. these gop doe nars anors are no him money. will it effect playing in the battleground state? you mentioned the polling. it is not good in some three big battleground states, michigan,
new hampshire but so far if you look at what they were able to raise for last month, $82 million is pretty significant. i would point to the majority of that coming from digital donations, i'm wondering how much of it was small dollar donations and if it proves to be small dollar donations. donald trump may be proving he doesn't need the billionaires on his side. he may be able to do it without them. that being said, he can raise money. the controversies are following him. they seem to be taking a toll in the polls. >> okay. so just my take away here, i'll keep it really short, but why does he need any of these people? he has got -- he's got republican leaders in congress falling in line. they fall in line and do whatever he says. nobody pushes back. so does he need these big
bundlers and all of these other people? >> i think he is trying to send a signal to folks, don't mess with him. the small contributions are powerful. not only do people give and continue to give but they become invested in the campaign, work as volunteers, work to get their friends and neighbors out. the theory of the trump campaign is to be a movement and not a normal campaign. a normal campaign would spend a lot of time courting bundlers. he is doing some of that. this is the best news they have had. >> i think what the clinton campaign wants is they want to normalize the idea of voting for hillary clinton. they want swing state voters, people who voted for john kasich in ohio to say i have been a republican my whole life but i'll admit i'm voting for hillary and that's all okay, right? >> it's a safe bet. >> it's the safe bet. >> i do think one challenge is,
we have portrayed it as a positive thing for her. they are independent and republican but it's not necessarily the year for the 1%. >> no. >> i wonder if there is a tipping point where that kind of narrative starts to be a problem. >> i'm wondering, what does the trump campaign do with the money they have raised? >> if they have got rid of any tv ads. if you look at, i'm sure, trump in his own mind trump will say he is down in pennsylvania because clinton has been running campaign ads there. it doesn't explain michigan but i think tv adds will be where they spend a lot of this. if you ask do you have good ideas? they have a lot of good ideas. >> thank you. up next, is this election coming down to dunham on the left and duck dynasty on the
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if you're looking for a job or try to go grow a business like i am, donald trump will have your back. >> donald trump and his party think i should be punished for exercising my constitutional rights. >> my voice is so bad. will you read this? long introe. i'm a frog. >> i'm sorry. that was willie robertson speak agent the republican national
convention. it is boiling down to a duck dynasty to a lena dunham and willie robertson, a celebrity endorser at the republican convention. no longer an actual aspect of political decision making party conventions are wholly a similar li symbolic affair. she had a woman focused view to a significant part of the country and robertson, an older military inclined, white male focused view to the dunham. >> you were very good at that. thank you.
>> is et realit really down to ? >> i don't think there are -- there are no issues in this campaign. it breaks down there's no idolo ideology. what is that? i'm a kind grandmother? what it is is two different countries. i don't live in your country. you don't live in my country. i don't like you. i don't like you. there is this clear divide. to me it's incredibly alarming partly because nobody is try to go bridge that divide. they say donald trump is a crazy person. they can reach out to this other side and they made no effort. it was their convention.
>> where did they miss out on reaching out to the other side in the democratic convention? >> what was their convention? their convention was about their interests. we had transgender bathrooms. we had this diversity thing. we had all of this -- the democratic party as functionally a cliche. this is who we are. we are a characature of ourselves. do we recognize there is a -- there is a revolt out there. there's an open revolt, at any late, a weird revolt. something is going on which nobody in the democratic party gave a sense that they understand. >> or care about. >> and you always had a good
observer's eye. let's look at the two cities as theaters. talk about the people participating in that theater as a play. >> i think it's a very good way to do it. what you saw was two different peop peoples. in philadelphia you saw this idea of the democratic party. it was a party of minorities. it was a party of -- >> of unity, of openness of all faiths and backgrounds, respect for people who have fought for this country, respect for people who are struggling to make a living wage. you heard from all of those people on stage. >> the people you didn't hear from was the donald trump people, the people whoever this group is who we don't know, be you this group who just ponied up $82 million for donald trump.
who are these people? i saw them in cleveland. they were totally unrecognizable to me. you know, people sitting next to me, there is a funny obscene, a little aside in my story, which i won't repeat but it was this kind of thing. you think they speak a different language. i don't know these people. hillary clinton doesn't know that he has people. nobody in the democratic people knows these people. >> people in the democratic party don't know them either. that's how we ended up here. >> yes and it becomes more concerning that the entire establishment, democratic and republican is aligning against these people so it doesn't matter, if the country elects him he can't be president.
he is -- >> well, he would be impeached in like two weeks. >> listen to this. this is where we are in this democratic system. so this isn't a demonstration of democracy anymore. if donald trump wins what we are saying is it's a failure of democracy. what happens then? >> if hillary clinton wins you will perhaps have the fourth consecutive illegitimate presidency. the other party defines is presidency, bill clinton -- >> and the president of the united states said yesterday or the day before donald trump cannot be president. all of my opponents were acceptable. >> you don't think this is different? >> i think it may be different. what does that mean?
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time now to talk about what we learned today. i think i sound like a frog. what did you learn today? >> i don't think you sound like a frog. what did you learn? maine and up state new york are the most important places for donald trump to be spend k time. >> i learned i really want to see donald trump's tax returns and that we should be insisting upon them each and every day. all right. what about michael steele? >> michael wolfe was right, there are two americas out there for fall. it will be fascinating to see which one wins. >> okay. i will not say a word after we get off the air. i'll be back tomorrow morning.
thank you so much. stephanie picks up the coverage right now. have a great day everybody. /s hi. now mr. trump is firing back. >> i just want to tell you the campaign is doing really well. it has never been so well united. new this morning, was it ransom? >> what's going on in this country, how stupid are we? hillary clinton pushing back against allegations that the united states paid to free american prisoners! as far as i know it had nothing to do with any kind of hostage swap or any other
fight. taking 40% of the delegates. but now they are all in her column and she is the nominee. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report," fir, balanced, and unafraid. we have got you covered tonight. here's greta. >> thank you, bret, and as we saw during "special report" hillary clinton clinching the democratic nomination for president. her former opponent senator bernie sanders making the motion to nominate clinton. >> and i move that hillary clinton be selected as the nominee of the democratic party for president of the united states. [cheers and applause] >> "on the record" is live in philadelphia at a jubilant democratic convention. let's go right to fox news martha maccallum who is on the floor. martha? >> i have got to tell you, you know, people get jaded watching micks. this was a very emotional moment that we just witnessed from bernie sanders. here is a guy who people laughed at when he said he was going to run for president. he came from getting 40% of
the delegates of the democratic party. extraordinary story. no doubt that bernie sanders connected with people on a very basic, very real level. they talk about the revolution that he has begun and there is fire in their eyes, greta. they believe that he could take the country in a direction that obviously in cleveland nobody wanted to be taken to but, here, people are very enthusiastic about a world where things like college is free, the minimum wage is $15. opportunity exists for people in a different way that is provided by the government. they believe that's the way it should be. bernie sanders had tears in his eyes. sat next to his wife jane who has gone on this incredible ride with him. vermont was very proud tonight to be at the center of all of this. it is just remarkable when you think about what he pulled off as a democratic socialist. an independent senator from vermont to kind of come along in the way he did. and authenticity has been such an important word in
this whole race, greta. donald trump has touched something in conservatives and independents. bernie sanders did the same thing. hillary clinton needs to do something very important. she needs to get a piece of that authenticity tonight. bill clinton is the person who has been selected with that task. he had to come forward and reintroduce somebody that the american public has known very well for 25 years. her name has been -- she has had adulation and a lot of scandals as well. tied with donald trump in the national polls right now. she has uphill battle ahead of her. and, yet, tonight is the night for bill clinton to get up there and do what he did for barack obama last time around, which was to stand up and be the most forceful person who speaks out. he did an amazing job in the last convention for barack obama saying nobody could have fixed this economy in the last four years. not even me. and the people in that hall
believed him and you could almost feel that tide turn. he has got to do that tonight for hillary clinton who is the first woman nominee from the state of new york. first woman nominee to clinch the nomination of her party. and also emotion tonight, greta, finishing with this. in the new york state delegates i spoke with governor cuomo. i spoke with chuck schumer, senator schumer who very much wants this to be a down ticket race. he wants all of those senators to be swept. in and majority leader no doubt under hillary clinton's presidency. they are fired up to have a woman from new york state have this historic moment and celebrate it here on the floor of the wells fargo center. back to you, greta. >> thank you. we will keep come back to the action on the floor all night long. also making news in philadelphia. so far, well, there has been little mention of terrorism despite terrorism striking in recent days. even today the world is shocked. 84-year-old catholic priest in france was slain. ordered the elderly priest
to his knees and slit his throat and reportedly they recorded the whole thing. in moments take you live to france where the investigation is in high gear. back here in the united states day two of the democratic national convention and donald trump as you might imagine saying this at vfw convention. >> we need to change our foreign policy to focus on defeating and destroying isis, a word you didn't hear last night at the democrat convention. you didn't hear it. they don't want to talk about it because in a true way they established isis because of weakness. >> former new york city mayor rudy giuliani goes "on the record." good evening, mayor. what a contrast. i know everybody is excited here in the arena and for good reason. historic night woman on the ticket. >> sure. >> on the other hand, there is talk so far there has been no talk of terrorism and catholic terrorism.
>> insulting and appropriate that they didn't take at least a moment of silent prayer for this priest whose throat was cut by an islamic terrorist. i can't imagine either political party ignoring that. i can only attribute it to the fact that barack obama has spent eight years ignoring the danger of islamic extremist terrorism, under estimating it, calling isis the jv and it's been tremendous failure. now we had in the south of germany, four attacks in the last eight days and now we have one in france. it seems to be happening every other day. this country and this world has not been under this kind of attack. i can't remember when. you would have to go back to before i was born. >> that's incredible. i understand governor terry mcauliff previously discussed isis.
i would think, mayor, that we're hearing that president bill clinton is still writing his speech. this may be sort of the moment during his speech when he will make some reference to what his wife would too as president of the united states to try to defeat isis. this would be a good opportunity. he can sort of fill that gap. because people are noticing that it hasn't been discussed. >> it will really be interesting how he explains how she is going it defeat it when she has helped develop it by pulling and being part of the administration that pulled our troops out of iraq, which is the only reason isis was able to flourish. i mean, the sunnies had to go somewhere. some of them went and hid and the others became part of isis. it's all because barack obama had this timetable to bring our people out of iraq, joe biden failed to get any kind agreement on american troops being left behind. and that's how isis developed. their intelligence on isis has been nothing short of grossly negligent.
isis is the jv. now, she is part of that administration. and she is part of the decisions that help to do get rid of qaddafi. and look what we have in libya now. in libya we have an isis strong hold. so, hillary clinton has played a very big role in the development of isis. so i can't imagine what bill clinton is going to say about what she is going to do to defeat it since she certainly has done a heck of a lot to create it. >> i should note that leader pelosi, nancy pelosi is now speaking here in the convention hall. you know, mr. mayor, when you think about it, it's like churches should be the safe place to go. we saw it in south carolina when that man brutally exhe can cuted those people. now we have this in france, isis. what are we going to do have to put metal tee tech tores up at churches? the whole world is horrified as it should be. >> you know, we don't fight the military campaign against it because the president's first words out of his mouth are no boots on the ground. we get ridiculous decisions
like hillary's like overthrowing qaddafi. by failing to mention islamic religious terrorism woe are not fighting the war of ideas like we did during the cold war that our ideas are better. the idea that a woman can be nominated for president of the united states. women can't drive in saudi arabia. women are executed under strict sharia law. we should be talking about these things. we should be showing the world that our values are better, the show to poland and the czech republic and russia. that's how we won the cold war. we won the war of ideas. president obama and secretary clinton have never fought that war of ideas. >> well, mayor, another part of tonight's convention and part of the program is called mothers of the movement. now, that group is made up of mothers who have had
children killed by law enforcement or due to gun violence. included in that group are the mothers of travon martin and michael brown. 2014 michael brown sparked the hands up don't shoot chant. grand jury investigated that ferguson shooting and did not indict the police officer. and mayor, last woke at the republican national convention you really fired up the crowd by remembering the men and women who put their lives on the line to keep us safe. here it. >> we say thank you to every police officer and law enforcement agent who is out tonight protecting us, black, white, latino, of every race, every color, every creed, every sexual orientation. when they come to save your life, you don't ask if you are black or white, they just come to save you. [cheers and applause]
mayor, tonight there are no mothers of police officers who were killed in the line of duty. i guess in a sense of unity it would have been nice to hear from both sides i don't know what you think. >> it shows you what the very socialist democratic party has become. it's become a one-sided party. showing no respect for law enforcement. some of the cases you are mentioning the police officers were found not guilty. police officers in baltimore, two of them have been found not guilty. i believe the judge was an african-american judge. so, not only are they not showing respect for law enforcement, they are not showing respect for our system of justice. >> you know though, i mean, look, i know democrats grieve for these police officers and those five police officers murdered in dallas of all things. they were out there protecting peaceful protests against police officers, the irony of that. they grieve. to me it's so tone deaf to law enforcement in this
country not to give them sort of the equal attention because they do put their lives on the line and many have lost. this is such a missed opportunity for the democratic party, do you agree? >> what about the police officers in baton rouge who were responding to a call from apparently an african-american woman that she was in peril because a gun was being pointed at her. turned out to be a phony call. they were ambushed and slaughtered. and they were coming to the defense of a black woman. we're not going to respect that? so what i say to the democratic party is, you have become a socialist party. you want us to economically be like greece. and you want us to buy this racial narrative that we are divided country and we're not. many are african-american and historic. their lives are on the line just as much as white police
officers in new york we have had hispanic, black, and asian police officers. all trying to save in large part african-american lives. how about some respect for them. >> mayor, thank you for joining us this evening. >> thank you. >> of course the breaking news. striking again. isis par baron savagely splitting the throat of a french priest. storming the church and taking hostages. catherine field is live in paris. what you can tell me about this terrorism? >> as you said, greta, just before 9:30 in the morning when the elderly priest was saying mass after a tiny congregation two nuns and two parishioners there. when the two men burst in they took them all around
the altar. attacked them and cut the throat of one of the priests. they attacked one of the elderly parishioners. they left the church. as they were emerging from the church they called allah akbar. that's when police got very nervous and shot both men dead, greta. >> i read some place that they had recorded this in some way. can you verify or confirm that there was a recording made of the execution by these terrorists? >> one of the nuns who was present recorded it. no one has seen anything or heard anything. can i tell i, greta. police are terrified recording will make its way onto the web. >> i imagine president owe alan has statement. i don't know what's going to happen to the church in france. >> what he has said, greta, france must expect more
attacks like this. >> there are 45,000 churches in france a country traditionally catholic. it has lots of little villages but one huge church right in the center. the police are saying, lock, we can perfectly well protect the big churches like north dam cathedral or cathedral but we can't be in front of every single church, synagogue and moss mosque right across this country. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll continue to follow this developing story tonight. back here in philadelphia outside the convention in this punishing philly heat. sanders' supporters are furious. protesters taking to the streets. "on the record" griff jenkins is there griff? >> i just got disconnected. >> and i can hear that i just got you can hear just as did i that griff just got disconnected. i have been out there. i can tell you why you are seeing so many protesters out there. the bernie supporters more conciliatory inside the arena but outside they are
mad. griff, you're back, i understand. >> i am back. sorry we lost you for a second. can you see here the peaceful demonstration the police on the side of what is 3,000 to 5,000. this is the black lives matter folks. >> keep the hell out of the way. >> they just announced that hillary clinton has received the nomination and they have been speaking saying that hillary clinton is not for them. they are saying don't vote for hillary. she chose black people. why are you against hillary clinton? >> so that's pretty much the scene going on here. peaceful. still 3 to 5,000. police say there have been absolutely no arrests so far to this day. we are marching from city hall all the way down to dnc and things are under control although some the rhetoric is sporty, greta? >> griff, thank you. >> and history made here in philadelphia. secretary clinton is now the
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"on the record" is live at the democratic national convention here in philadelphia. the dnc email hack is plaguing the convention and brand new evidence showing very sophisticated hackers that broke into the server. catherine herridge has that evidence. i also want to know were the republican servers hacked and why not if not? >> that's a great question. i will start with the dnc hack. today the secretary of state john kerry was traveling overseas for prearranged meeting with the russian foreign minister it got kind of awkward when one of the reporters asked the russian foreign minister if his government was behind the dnc hack.
here is that exchange. >> accusations that are you sure shah democratic emails? >> well, i don't want to use four letter words. >> julian assange said to nbc news in an interview that there is really no intelligence that russia was behind the theft and the leak of the dnc emails. but there are really three pieces to the puzzle that suggest otherwise. number one, our expert, who has reviewed the evidence said that there is malicious code on the dnc servers which is a carbon copy of what russian-backed hackers have used in the past. also, that a web domain was set up to steal the information once they were inside the dnc servers. and that domain was set up by an entity that is not existent. what they call in the spy world a cutout. and that's another signature of the russians. the third, i hope can i
explain this pretty clearly, is that every foreign intelligence service wants to get inside the government system or inside the political party system. if they were just interested in what their policy decisions would be in the future, if their candidate becomes president, they would have held on to that information. but the fact that it was strategically leaked on the eve of the convention really tells you that there was also political motivation. as to your question about the republicans, our expert said that it's highly likely that they're inside the republican system as well but it just has not been flagged at this point, greta. >> catherine, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> senator sanders may have endorsed secretary clinton many supporters remain enraged at the dnc email leak. shouting and anger continuing today. [chanting]
[chanting hillary] >> special "on the record" senate panel is here bob casey and democratic missouri senator upon mccaskill. nice to see both of you. >> thank you. >> i always thought it was odd that senator sanders could run in the democratic party because he never wanted to be a democrat except -- he always wanted to be an independent. once they invited him in, they ought to be fair to him. the emails look pretty bad. your thoughts? >> well, listen, debbie wasserman schultz has stepped down. bernie sanders just made the motion for this convention to accept hillary clinton's nomination by acclimation. and you saw this place go up. there was very little in any demonstrations at that point. because bernie sanders has really done the right thing here. this is a convention that even though there is going to be protesters and outliers as there always is in politics, 90% poll shows
90% of bernie sanders supporters voting for hillary. >> leader of the house nancy pelosi very historic moment in the nation. whether republican or democrat. senator casey, what do you make of this whole terrorism in france and we have yet to hear from the democratic party to go in to depth in some isis strategy here at the convention. i'm actually thinking that president bill clinton may start to lay it out. but what's your house about all of this? >> well, there is no question, greta, that we have a strategy in place to defeat isis. we have made progress in that strategy in terms of denial of territory. almost half of it taken back from isis. tens of thousands of their fighters killed. so militarily there is progress. but this is going to be a long battle. this battle may go on for a long time because ultimately, even if you resolve it on the -- in the military sense, this is still going to be a battle about whether or not our
side can prevail in a debate about extremism. and they have cornered the market on extremism. we have got to have a strategy going forward that insists that we not only track down and kill terrorists, but that we work very hard to fight against that kind of extremism. and i have a lot of confidence in secretary clinton as president will have the best strategy to do that. >> i think i introduced you as a republican senator. i don't know where that came from in my head. >> i have been called a lot of things. >> i wasn't going to say anything but i panicked for a minute. >> greta, i knew you would catch up with the record. >> i apologize. now we are going to have exciting moment. president jimmy carter's grandson is introducing him. he will be appearing here by video. is he a more elderly gentleman. he won't be here live. it's interesting to have him here by video. >> real contrast between the republican convention. the former presidents didn't want to come to the convention and nominate a
donald trump. and. >> they also didn't have hacking -- the rnc didn't show bias. you're a lawyer, i'm a lawyer. we can do this because the hacking was clearly done by russia and there is only one candidate -- >> -- it's the content. wasn't even the hacking it's the content. >> the content was terrible. they should all be fired. the reason it was released because putin trump saying we will go soft on nato and you have a chance to do your damage in other places. >> it looked terrible like the fix was in against senator sanders whether you are for him. and the religious remark which debbie wasserman schultz is not part of it i should add. she was not part of that religious slight. what do you want to hear from president bill clinton tonight? >> i don't know what his message will be but what i hope it will be is a similar message that he put forth on the campaign trail coming through pennsylvania and a lot of other states which is to tell the story of hillary clinton not just as a candidate but as a person, as a change agent, as an
advocate who has made people's lives better. he tells that story better than anyone, it's a remarkable record of changing people's lives whether when she was at the children's defense fund all the way through her public service from the senate and the secretary of state. i think if he does that it will be a great speech. and i'm sure he will probably walk through some key issues like economic security. >> as i suppose it's no surprise to you we are hearing he is still writing it because is he really hands on this. last minute will be an exciting speech i'm sure tonight. thank you both very much. i promise to get your party right next time. >> thanks, greta. >> and secretary hillary clinton going boldly where no woman has gone before. secretary clinton making history tonight. we're back in philadelphia. that's next. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis,
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terrorist attack and convention are planned well in advance. none the less, we have heard virtually nothing about isis. maybe we will get secretary clinton's plan thursday night right now everybody is talking about the fact that we haven't heard about terrorism, your thoughts? >> looking at a party shah is not cirpd about national security. as a matter of fact, coming out of the republican convention it was all about donald trump and the republican convention being about doom and gloom. not about the reality on the ground when the president came out and gave impromptu press conference last friday would you had another terrorist attack in germany. as rudy giuliani said we have had ofour of those attacks in the last 8 days and of course what just happened in paris, france. you have to accept responsibility if you start to mention these things, you have to talk about a policy and strategy. right now the democrat party is about compassion, unity, and love as the attorney general said. they are all about bridges over troubled water. i guess the best thing is to
send james taylor or paul simon over to sing for isis maybe they will start crying and mend their ways. >> trying to think why we haven't heard about it it's early in the convention or even the vice presidential nominee. maybe we will get that later in the week so the tough talk on what the plan is and how it will differ from president obama's plan. >> well, i think last week in cleveland, you saw the very first day the rnc had a theme of make america safe again. and they talked about we face domestically and also with the isis and really the global islamic jihadi. and you don't hear that coming from the democratic party. as a matter of fact, tonight, we have our law enforcement officers on the front lines, fighting against this domestic jihadist enemy. but, yet, they are going to talk to the mothers of the quote, unquote, victims of police shootings and not the families of the slain police officers that are out there protecting us every day. >> which i don't get because
it would have been so easy to put the mothers of dead police officers. >> that's not what they want. >> i mean -- >> -- that's not what they want, greta. >> if they want to have a big tent, you know, they ought. >> but their big tent is defined with people that they can politically pander to in order to get their electoral patronage. and the law enforcement officers are not the group that they want. they want more victims. they want to stir up this racial division within the inner city communities. and that's why they are going to feature michael brown's mother. michael brown was a thug. michael brown assaulted a store owner, stole from him and then assaulted a police officer. now why would the democratic party want to celebrate that person instead of celebrating our men and women in uniform and celebrating the members of the thin blue line. >> colonel west, thank you. we will see what happens the rest of the week here. we will see what happens. thank you, sir. >> and it is historic. yet the first time in measure history the woman will be heading the ticket of a national political party for president of the
united states. only two women have been nominated vice presidential candidates. >> my mom and dad both worked at the elementary school in our small town and among the many things i owe them is a simple lesson that i have learned, that this is america and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity. >> i stand before you to proclaim tonight america is the land where dreams can come true for all of us. [cheers and applause] >> yes, those women got close but only close to the white house. no one has ever served until now on the top of the ticket so. can secretary hillary clinton win over female supporters and can she take the white house. global markets and editor mornings with maria. maria bartiromo is here. >> good to see. >> you the older women are excited about this millennials oh yeah, we
don't want to pick her on gender. we have the supreme court. we have the imf, federal reserve. not a big deal to younger women, is it. >> it's true. they expect it's going to be their own performance and what they do is going to propel them higher. not as big of a deal for those who have wait to do see a woman in power. regardless, it's historic. >> it's fun even going back to listen to geraldine ferraro. fun to watch her speech on youtube. does wall street like secretary hillary clinton? >> yes. i think wall street is favoring some on wall street are favoring hillary clinton because they like the certainty of it. the truth is with hillary clinton you know that we probably will get more of the same of what we have seen. some people going in the third obama term. others saying it's going to be her building on president obama's policy. so, yes. they want to see certainty. that's where they are comfortable for wall street, donald trump is an unknown. they don't know what, you know, he will do. even though many of his
policies actually are much better in terms of the economy than hers. she is going to raise taxes. trump is going to cut taxes. he is talking about 15% corporate tax rate that has to be yuge for businesses who are going to, you know, save money in terms of taxes and then use that money to hopefully hire people and invest in their businesses. policies are different trump's policies if they were to materialize the way he was talking about them are probably better for the economy and yet, wall street is with her because of the certainty factor. >> jobs, do you think we will hear about jobs here and what the plan is for secretary clinton? >> that's the thing. i mean, she keeps talking about, you know, look, i have got a plan for jobs and growth. we actually haven't seen it for all the talk about donald trump not having substance. we haven't heard a lot of substance from hillary clinton. in terms of how she will create jobs. and how she will move the needle on economic growth. you know that's been the most important issue, that and national security for voters. so we really do need to hear substance from her because raising taxes, building on things like obamacare,
building on things like dodd frank is not necessarily going to get businesses to invest and hire new people. that's the reason they are not hiring new people right now. that's the number one issue. we will see if we hear any substance in that regard. >> all right, maria, thank you. i never miss your show. thank you, maria. >> see you tomorrow. >> just a short time ago, it became official. secretary hillary clinton is now the first woman to be at the top of presidential ticket. caroline great state of louisiana is here to go "on the record." nice to he see you. >> good to see you. thanks for having me. >> are they pretty accustomed to women succeeding. >> exciting moment no matter who you are. democracy in action and shows the party working to come together. frankly, it's exciting to have the woman to be at the top of the ticket. >> did the woman at the dnc debbie wasserman-schultz rig the system against bernie sanders to get a woman at the head of the ticket? >> i don't know what
happened or didn't happen. i have been so focused on running on this louisiana senate race i'm doing everything we can to make sure we have a working agenda for families. >> that's a dodge. i will give it to you and let you dodge there. you are running against david duke among others. >> david duke, he disgusted me as a teenager growing up in louisiana and disgusts me today. his vile rhetoric has no place in civilized society. >> you have a weird i shouldn't say that about louisiana, weird selection process almost like jump ball down there. >> it's an open primary. i was successful in 2010 advancing into a runoff then and i plan to do it again this time. >> is it conceivable you could have two republicans and democrats running against each other. >> i will be very honest with mr. duke in the race it could be me vs. mr. duke. luckily we will luck out and be two democrats. very exciting election cycle. people pay tension and now that he is here we are ready to get started. >> we are going to listen now for a second elizabeth banks on the podium right
now. caroline, thank you. >> hey, that's my act. part of me like being up here joking around the or part this isn't a joke. when i think about what this election means for mercury think about my family my father the vietnam vet worked the second and third shift of pitsfield, massachusetts. my mother worked at the library and local bank and they worked hard. they struggled. because, like millions of american parents, they want to do give their kids, four of us, a good life with boundless opportunities it is what democrats built, good public schools, affordable healthcare, help in the hardest times that they were able to do that
ampted though dreams and mine took me here to philadelphia. really. through scholarships and financial aid i worked my way through the university of pennsylvania i got a world class education and i met my wonderful husband and partner max. i will never forget that day in 1992 when we went on a big romantic date a rally for bill clinton. and it was there that i learned something really important about show business. >> and actress and producer elizabeth banks on the stage. she will be tonight's host. more on the "on the record" on the number one record in all of cable in just minutes. we'll be right back.
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"on the record" is live in philadelphia. kicking off prime time at the 2016 democratic national convention on the number one network in all of cable. and tonight is night two of the convention. and a big night for democrats. the delegates hearing from not one but two former presidents. and a few minutes ago president jimmy carter appearing by video and later tonight president bill clinton taking the stage his tenth speech at a national political convention. michigan congressman dan kilmeade goes "on the record." nice to see you, sir. and i should remind the viewers in case they don't know congressman kilmeade helped get a marine home from iran marine hekmati. >> and you helped, too. >> we worked together. tell me what do you want to hear from bill clinton tonight? >> it's going to be interesting. is he in a different position. i don't think he can just be bill clinton the former president with his, you know, sort of depth of policy. he has to be hillary clinton's husband. and tell us a bit about her that maybe we don't know. it's a unique position for
him to be in. but it's a pretty significant dress rehearsal for the role is he likely to play for many years now. >> come thursday night, we are going to hear from secretary clinton and so far this campaign -- this convention has not had a lot about terrorism. i assume are we going to get that? have r. we going to hear more of the plan? >> i assume so. you know how thee convention roll out. evenings have themes. we will see that i expect that we will hear about it. >> how about jobs? >> well, obviously, when i go back home, that's all anybody wants to talk about. and so what i'm looking for and what i'm hoping that i will hear, i expect i will is a set of more specific plans to get the economy growing at a rate that will actually be sustainable. obviously we have had growth but we would all agree it needs to be more robust and i think we are owed specific solutions, whether it's from hillary clinton, i expect to get those or from donald trump, something more than just that it will be great. >> what's the biggest challenge you think secretary clinton has going into the campaign now we go
into the second stage of the campaign against donald trump? what's the hardest thingr to de? >> the one big challenge was unifying this party. we are in the process of doing that we certainly haven't completed it but last night and then again today i think we have taken a big step toward that i think the big challenge going forward is being able to lay out a vision that people believe they can invest in and that they see themselves, in that's a big challenge now, of course. >> it seems to me, the republicans never bother to do visit the inner cities like detroit your home state. >> yes. >> the democrats do a drive by once every four years. >> it may feel like that and can i tell you from my own perspective and this is specific to hillary clinton. when i see her we talk about flint and she talks to me about the specific challenges in my hometown. i take some hope in that. i will agree that i don't think democrats or republicans over the years have done nearly enough to deal with the challenges of older communities like my hometown or like saginaw, michigan, for example.
i have some hope that hillary will continue to do that. she raises it with me. i don't have to bring it up with her. >> all right. a plug for one city in michigan, mackinaw island. i love mackinaw island. if you ever get a chance to go to mackinaw island. in fact the mayor is mayor dowd. she is great. thank you, sir. >> thanks, greta. >> co-host of america's newsroom is down on the floor with the california delegates. bill? >> again, trying to find bernie sanders. don't know where he is we don't know if he has left the arena. we don't think he has. but he has certainly left his seat in the vermont delegates. he wasn't there long, greta. it was pretty much in and out. thought we might see him back in the sky box. stand by for that behind me is the california delegates. speaking of seats. see all the empty seats behind me. many of these delegate also go out on the concourse and mingle and meet with others and get a bite to eat. we do know several of these bernie sanders will delegates have left the building all together. i just spoke with some members, sanders supporters members of a nursing union
in california said -- i said what are you going to do now? they said we don't turn our backs on our patients. we will not turn our backs on our country. we said will you vote for hillary clinton they said we don't know. we will see whether or not she can win our vote. very interesting. california is here over here behind me. you see the stage. you see the stage, greta, and the illinois delegates. you mentioned bill clinton on stage tonight around 10:00 eastern time. remember when he made his convention debut in 1988 as he will tell you, he womaned that night. went twice as long as expected and boy what a difference four years make in 1992 he wins the white house. so bill clinton makes his tenth convention address tonight about two hours from now. spoke to a 13-year-old girl from a moment ago from the illinois delegates. said are you looking forward to bill clinton she said i guess and shrugged her soldiers and went -- shoulders and went back to snap chat. we will see if she will win tonight. >> bill, thank you.
democrats have that big political problem on their hands. hacked emails bias against senator sanders and it could not have been exposed at a worst time. democrats need party unity and the party just got it. senator bernie sanders asked the convention to name secretary clinton to name the democratic nominee for president. last night things got a little bit messy. comedian silverman bearnsd supporter booed for calling out fellow sander supporters. >> can i just say to the bernie or bust people you're being ridiculous. >> the "on the record" political panel is here from victoria and from forbes randal lane. first to you, it seems party unity inside this building. outside it doesn't seem like party unity. a week from now your thoughts? party unity? >> even tonight you saw bernie sanders walked out after he called for unity. bernie sanders has done his part more than a lot of people thought today to see him up here and said instead
of kicking it to new york state to put hillary by acclimation to kick it to vermont with bernie doing it everyone here is talking about revolution, as we all know from revolutions the person who starts the revolution can't control the revolution to be successful. >> senator elizabeth warren. some bernie sanders supporters thought that she was -- sell out is a tough phrase but you get my point. she was not supporting them. >> she definitely has taken a bit of a battering among people who used to be her core base. and it will be interesting to watch kind of going ahead if she can bring ---win them back. i was at an event today that she did, which was very policy heavy. she didn't mention donald trump, hillary clinton once. and there were some bernie supporter there's who were saying well she was my hero once. i'm willing to give her another listen but i'm very torn right now about the whole party situation. >> randal, the police officers, feeling very
burned because there are mothers of people who have died as a result of police shootings but there are no mothers that at least we know of who are going to be speaking on behalf of the many police officers slain by criminals. >> yep. >> and they're sitting out there watching tonight and it doesn't look like the democratic party is inviting everybody and it looks like they have taken sides. each yesterday when you hear the discussion of terrorism. we have to look at this as four day thing. right now if you look at kind of the messaging, so much different than it was in cleveland. it's like two different worlds right now. >> it is two different worlds between these two parties. i'm not sure they occupy the same universe. what do you think donald trump's biggest challenge supporting secretary clinton is? >> it's the array of very effective surrogates that secretary clinton has. i mean, you saw him take to dewitter last night. but there was one person did he not criticize and that was michelle obama. she gave, perhaps, the most powerful speech clinton has a lot of weaknesses but a lot of people on her side. >> look who is on the stage
right now donna brazil who is going to be the active interim dnc chair. can i tell you this crowd loves her. done nasa wonderful person. she has actually given up a professionally to do. this she has a lot of cnn, abc. >> she is not debbie wasserman-schultz already she is the most upon larr person here. >> very popular. she has been interim before. >> survive segregated south who dat. when america wasn't as great as it could be. as a grown woman, i saw the first black president reach down and touch the face of a child like i once was. >> let's take a quick break as donna brazil speaking. victoria randle thank you both.
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problem that this country faces and one of the biggest problems is our fight against radical islamic terrorism and they're in denial and they won't even mention it or isis. >> well, i tell you, a few more incidents like this and the american people are going to demand that they mention at least lay out a plan. national security is so important and the democrats better come up with a new plan because i think most people are competent that isis is growing. i don't care how much land they lose in syria the number of attacks are growing. >> they are growing. here is something else that the american people are getting sick of which is being reflected in the bernie sanders supporters. now, you know that i don't in any way support bernie sanders, but the bernie sanders supporters feel betrayed by bernie sanders and betrayed by the democratic party because debbie wasserman-schultz has been busted. so they are frustrated and
upset. i don't know where they are going to go. but they are frustrated and upset. >> i can't understand after debbie wasserman-schultz gets busted is she gets some sort of honoree role in the clinton campaign. should have quit right away. lingers on for a day or two ling gets a honor yes post. >> to use the word from the bible corruption begets corruption. that's all that is most people are saying how in the world does she go to one job that she technically should have been fired from and immediately gets another job. that's why so many people are upset. here is the other thing, greta. not only are the bernie sanders voters upset, but a lot of other democrats are disgusted and disappointed. >> mr. cain, i have got. >> how this went down. >> thank you very much for joining us. the students from the academy new york city are on the stage when secretary
clinton was new york senator she helped create the school for at risk youth. let's listen to them. [cheers and applause] >> in 2004, the high school graduation rate was only around 30%. and 75% of new york state's entire prison population came from just seven neighborhoods in new york city. if you were one of the young men growing up in these areas, the odds were stacked against you. so together with the organization 100 black men, we answered the call to do something about this crisis. since 2004, the eagle academy has educated nearly 4,000 young men. [ applause ] 98% of our graduates are accepted to college.
[ applause ] we're making a big difference now but we could not have done it alone. you see, there was one leader who was with us from the very beginning. and she was our earliest champion one leader who understood that addressing the crisis facing young men of color in our country required innovative measures. one leader who pushed to open the first eagle academy in the bronx. and she made a promise to return four years later to offer the keynote address to our first graduating class. and that's a promise that she kept. you see i'm with hillary clinton because she has been with us. [ applause ] today, we have young men who are confident future leaders