but i digress. it is not just democrats ringing the alarm about the need to raise the debt ceiling. according to the washington post, a small group of conservative budget experts is cautioning house republicans that brings mission over the nation s boring limit could lead to economic disaster. the united states has never defaulted on its debt and for good reason. according to a 2020 and analysis from rudy s, it could cost the nine states up to 6 million jobs and 15 trillion in household wealth. joining me now, congressman joe neguse, chair of the democratic policy communication to me, congressman, welcome back to the sunday show. good to be with you, jonathan. so, raising the debt ceiling is supposed to be a rudimentary process. the effects of the cuts in this bill could force families and whole economy into a depression. what is at stake if congress