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plus, why is facebook reportedly asking banks for your financial information? good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm phil mattingly in for dave briggs. >> i'm christine romans. it is tuesday, august7th. 4:00 a.m. in the east. let's start with paul manafort's right hand man rick gates. back on the witness stand in the one-time trump campaign chairman trial on tax and fraud charges. the stakes are high for the white house. manafort and his deputy know a great deal of what went on behind closed doors during key months of the 2016 campaign. yesterday, gates admitted under a grant of immunity he committed crimes alongside his former boss and against him as well. cnn has more from the federal court in alexandra, virginia. >> reporter: rick gates took the stand in the showdown we have been waiting for as gates Get a jump on the day's news with Christine Romans and Dave Briggs. every time he weighs in. it complicates the previous explanations for it. we are hearing from the president's aides that in the next coming days, the president's legal team will have an answer or response to robert mueller's team. will he sit for the interview and what conditions will he sit for an interview? they hope to have that accomplished by the end of the working vacation. he will meet with the ceos on tuesday night tonight for dinner at his bedminster golf club doing fund-raisers. so far, nothing else on the schedule. it is clear the working vacation still has russia hanging over it. christine and phil. >> jeff, thank you. a few hours ago, shortly after midnight, u.s. sanctions against iran went back into effect by order of president trump. renewed sanctions targeting gold, steel, aluminum and currency had been ususpended as part of the iran nuclear deal. some have pledged to keep up trade and cooperation with iran. so, is america actually going alone? we have senior international correspondent nick paton walsh live from london. >> reporter: because of the size of the global economy and reach, the u.s. will try to put sanctions back in. that does have a more far reaching impact and does impact european allies who signed on the nuclear deal. this is all with the decision to pull out of the nuclear pact by president trump. we had a strange moment as the sanction as peer s appear to co in. hassan rouhani has said that he could talk right now with donald trump were that offered. there is a caveat here. he would like sanctions lifted first. he said you cannot talk to somebody who has a knife stuck in your arm or back. there are many who don't want them to sit down soon. you may see internal problems. the local currency is collapsing quite quickly over the past year. you may see iran's government looking for an opportunity. they may see how negotiations with north korea and russia have ended up, perhaps a little less than what was agreed. vladimir putin and kim jong-un respectively and maybe they are trying to buy some time if they were to get in the same room. i think that idea is far fetched idea right now because both camps have ideas of what the two countries should be doing in terms of each other. we slowly see the economic pressure ratcheted up with eira. iran is calling it psychological warfare. it makes the people feel the government is not looking out for them. the american dream of putting a more moderate government in play in iran is far fetched. >> nick, internal and external implications. really across the globe. fascinating to watch. nick paton walsh, thank you. firefighters struggling to contain the 16 major wildfires devastating the state. one exploded and nearly doubling in size. mendocino complex fire is the largest in state history. flaming scorched 248,000 acres. the fire is actually two wildfires burning around clear lake across several northern california counties. as of last night, the fire was 30% contained. more than 100 residences have been destroyed. eight minutes past the hour. facebook wants your financial information. facebook asked several large u.s. banks for detailed financial information about their customers. think account balances and credit card activity. facebook wants to offer services on the app. it is not actively seeking data, but declined to comment if it has been talking to banks. it wants to keep users on the platform longer. the issue is privacy. facebook is facing criticism over handling data after exposing user information without content. none of the banks would confirm they were if talks with facebook. stressed the importance of privacy for customers. still, wall street liked that facebook is expanding to new services. stock rose 4% as people on facebook were screaming about this. >> if the streets are happy, the board room is happy. what would make somebody concerned when it comes to facebook? 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>> more about getting democratic back intoes office and really for the people -- into office and really for the people. >> i'm like millions of americans it is not if you like the candidate of choice, but who you dislike less. i think during the presidential election, i believe that is how trump ended up in office. i don't think the world thought he was the perfect candidate nor has he proven to be, but this race with balderson is the same way. >> reporter: trump was here over the weekend to rally the base and try to shore up support for balderson. it should be noticed that president trump carried this s district by 11 points two years ago. right now as voters head to the polls this morning, the race is too close to call. christine, phil. >> jason in ohio. thank you. info wars and alex jones removed from youtube, apple and facebook. the site violated the content policies. the move shutdown channels that gave jones access to millions of internet users. youtube removed his main channel which had 2.4 million s subscribe subscribers. the site is notorious for false conspiracy theories. it claimed the sandy hook massacre was a hoax and called 9/11 an orchestrated job created by the government. and three people killed by a blast in italy. the man caught this on his video during his commute. the gas tanker hit another truck. three people were killed and 60 to 70 people injured with serious burns. the cause of the accident is under investigation. the pentagon is banning deployed military personnel from using electronic devices with geo locations. they include apps that could disclose the users location. a possible security breach. the new policy comes after it was revealed in january that a fitness tracking app that maps exercise routines may have revealed the locations of security forces around the world. defense officials say the devices will not be banned. service members will be responsible for ensuring the geo locations features are disabled. a day at the zoo turned dangerous. more on the sudden destructive weather coming up. plus, remember when tv host told lebron james to shut up and dribble? 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two fast moving fires merging into one inferno becoming the largest ever wildfire in california history. why does the largest an aluminum maker want an exemption from its business? paul manafort's right hand man rick gates. back on the witness stand in the one-time trump campaign chairman trial on tax and fraud charges. the stakes are high for the white house. manafort and his deputy know a great deal of what went on behind closed doors during key months of the 2016 campaign. yesterday, gates admitted under a grant of immunity he committed crimes alongside his former boss and against him as well. cnn has more from the federal court in alexandra, virginia. >> reporter: rick gates took the stand in the showdown we have been waiting for as gates testified for 45 minutes. during that time, manafort stared him down sitting seats away from him. he averted manafort's gaze. he was asked by prosecutors if he committed crimes. gates said he had. he explained he helped manafort file false tax returns and fed 15 overseas accounts used as part of the alleged crime. gates offered a twist. saying he defrauded manafort, his mentor and long-time boss. he had stolen several hundred thousands dollars from him by inflating his expense accounts. gates' testimony is expected today. prosecutors intend to question him for another three hours. christine and phil. >> kara in virginia. thank you. don junior is dismissing the trump tower meeting and accusing the russian of bait and swift. -- switch. don junior claiming that russians wanted to give dirt on hillary clinton, but when they got there, it was about adoptions. >> it was a 20-minute meeting. it was nothing relevant to any of these things. that is all it is. that's all they got. that's not the premise that got them in the room. it was a bait and switch to talk about that. everyone has said that in testimony already. so this is nothing new. >> the president's son said all of the media scrutiny of the meeting with the russians is an attempt to divert attention away from his father's accomplishments. this week, president trump is he on what the white house calls a working vacation in new jersey. he tweeted over the weekend about the trump tower meeting and robert mueller's investigation. advisers are urging the president to cool it with the trump tower tweets. since they only give oxygen to the topic. we have jeff zeleny with more. >> reporter: christine and phil, president trump is continuing the working vacation in new jersey, one thing is clear he is staying out of public view, but we know one of the things on his mind. that russia investigation. we saw the tweets over the weekend when he was talking trying to explain what happened in the trump tower meeting in june of 2016. the president, of course, saying nothing was wrong. it was trying to get opposition research on hillary clinton. of course, that is not the original explanation from a year ago. we know a couple of things since that tweet over the weekend. we know as we head into the week, the president's aides and lawyers are asking him not to tweet specifically about that trump tower meeting. this is why. it is adding more complication every time he weighs in. it complicates the previous explanations for it. we are hearing from the president's aides that in the next coming days, the president's legal team will have an answer or response to robert mueller's team. will he sit for the interview and what conditions will he sit for an interview? they hope to have that accomplished by the end of the working vacation. he will meet with the ceos on tuesday night tonight for dinner at his bedminster golf club doing fund-raisers. so far, nothing else on the schedule. it is clear the working vacation still has russia hanging over it. christine and phil. >> jeff, thank you. a few hours ago, shortly after midnight, u.s. sanctions against iran went back into effect by order of president trump. renewed sanctions targeting gold, steel, aluminum and currency had been suspended as part of the iran nuclear deal. other nations that signed the nuclear deal remain in the agreement. some have pledged to keep up trade and cooperation with iran. so, is america actually going alone? we have senior international correspondent nick paton walsh live from london. nick, stroke of midnight. sanctions back in effect. >> reporter: absolutely. likely to see this morning the iranian economy take a further slip. it has been in trouble for past months if not years. pockets of protesters which brought the collapse of the local currency and dealing with the sanctions and threat of them building up to the midnight moment. you point out that the u.s. is going it alone, but sides as the big beast in the global economy. european ally who l-- allies wh disagree with the trump administration took years construct the size of the u.s. and european allies don't want to irritate it by doing business with iran or face u.s. sanctions. this means it is having a broader global effect. china coming in and europe is saying they will assist legitimate business continued in iran. i'm not sure what they mean by legitimate. you may see that president rouhani is saying he could right now negotiate with donald trump. it seems to have a few caveats attached to it. he appears to want sanctions dropped first. he said you don't talk to somebody who has a knife in your back or arm. it appears that statement is under duress. there are american hardliners notably bolton and pompeo who think there should be 12 minutes e -- 12 points that iran should do before talks should happen. and washington managed to set the agenda from talks with north korea and russia and now they possibly could see an opportunity. it is move where the big sanctions on banking kick in. that will have an effect when donald trump is facing midterms. >> thank you, nick. firefighters struggling to contain the 16 major wildfires devastating the state. one exploded and nearly doubling in size. mendocino complex fire is the largest in state history. flaming scorched 248,000 acres. surpassing the thomas fire from last december. the fire is actually two wildfires burning around clear lake across several northern california counties. as of last night, the fire was 30% contained. more than 100 residences have been destroyed. the largest u.s. aluminum maker wants relief from the tariffs designed to help them. wanting an exemption on imported aluminum. alcoa makes aluminum for beverage cans in canada and with new plants opening in the u.s., alcoa says it is not enough to fill orders. trump administration slapped tariffs earlier this year. the goal to prop up the u.s. industry. it helps some companies and hurts those relying on foreign metals. u.s. companies pay import tariffs and many raising prices or cautioning as they get hit by high costs. it is unclear if alcoa will get an exemption. wall street journal is slamming the process. want a steel exemption? 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>> more about getting democratic back into office and really for the people. >> i'm like millions of americans it is not if you like the candidate of choice, but who you dislike less. i think during the presidential election, i believe that is how trump ended up in office. i don't think the world thought he was the perfect candidate nor has he proven to be, but this race with balderson is the same way. >> reporter: trump was here over the weekend to rally the base and try to shore up support for balderson. it should be noticed that president trump carried this district by 11 points two years ago. right now as voters head to the polls this morning, the race is too close to call. christine, phil. >> thank you, jason. info wars and alex jones removed from youtube, apple and facebook. all three tech giants say the site violated the content policies. the move shutdown channels that gave jones access to millions of internet users. youtube removed his main channel which had 2.4 million subscribers. info wars did not respond to a request for comment. the site is notorious for false conspiracy theories. it claimed the sandy hook massacre was a hoax and called 9/11 an orchestrated job created by the government. >> among many other conspiracies. and a deadly explosion caught on video in italy. the man caught this on his video during his commute. the gas tanker hit another truck. three people were killed and 60 to 70 people injured with serious burns. the cause of the accident is under investigation. amnesty international says the u.s. number of deaths is likely much higher than first thought in raqqah. after strong denials, the early air raids killed 77 millions. they said this is only the tip of the iceberg. cnn's arwa damon has more from istanbul. arwa, what are you seeing? what are you hearing about what is actually happening on the ground? >> reporter: you know, it is complicated because the u.s. military historically has been reluctant to acknowledge civilian casualties and tend to do so when they received credible information that had taken place. that is what they are doing not just in raqqah, but mosul as well. when you take into consideration the bombardment and isis is known for holding hostages in their homes especially as battles were intensifies for raqqah and mosul, the numbers are certainly going to rise at this stage when you went into raqqah and the days after it was recaptured from isis, there were parts, phil, where you did not see color. that is how decimated everything was because everything was gray. people were talking about the intensity of the bombardment because there was nowhere to run. this is not just taking responsibility, but give the families the sense of justice for reparations done to them if the various societies will have a chance to recover from the atrocities they have been subjected to under isis and the horrors of the fight to liberate the various respective cities. to give you an idea, the coalition is investigating hundreds of reports of casualties. in the time frame of august of 2017 to 2018, it carried out strikes. it caused the deaths of around 1,059 civilians. there is no mechanism in place for them to look further into it. what amnesty international wants to see is a more concerted effort to give justice where justice is due. that will have long-term implications. >> that is right. we will see if they get that. arwa, this is an important story. thank you for your reporting. the pentagon is banning deployed military personnel from using electronic devices which have geo location like fitness apps that could disclose the location which is a security breach. the policy comes after it was revealed in january that a fitness tracking app may have revealed the location of security forces around the world. defense officials say the devices will not be banned, but service members will be responsible for ensuring that geo location features are disabled. a day at the zoo turns dangerous. more on the sudden destructive weather coming up. and remember when a tv host told lebron james to shut up and dribble? we will tell you how the nba star has turned those words around. wreaked havoc at the colorado zoo. take a look at this. two animals killed and 14 people were injured as chunked of hail, some as big as softballs, rained down monday at the zoo in colorado springs. it send bears running for cover in their enclosures. it damaged buildings and animal habitats. five of the people injured were taken to the hospital for treatment. officials say that zoo will be closed today while they assess the damage. and lebron james is partnering with showtime for a series which you may recognize. it came from the comment made by fox news host laura ingraham in february. >> lebron and kevin, you are great players, but no one voted for you. millions voted for trump to be their coach. keep the political commentary to yourself or someone once said shut up and dribble. >> she said that after james publicly expressed support for the warriors not to visit trump at the white house. time for a check on cnn money. corporate america making profits. stocks around president wor s a. wall street closed higher thanks to big earnings. berkshire hathaway rose after profits jumped 67%. the second best quarter since the recession. the season is not over. expect to hear from snap, disney and papa john's. a woman leading pepsi is leaving. she will be replaced by the global operations chief. nooyi helped turn pepsi into a large food and beverage company in the world. she is one of a handful of people of color and a woman to lead a fortune 500 company. her departure leaves 24 women. do you have a movie pass? it limits you to three movies per month. previously you could see one movie per day. moviepass is running out of money because of the low subscription price. that is less than some movie tickets. moviepass has to pay theaters to make up the difference. most customers see three movies or less per month. >> a perplexing business model. >> they are making promises they cannot keep. we are just short of 5:00 a.m. in the east. 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it's been more than fifty years since the state of new south wales in australia has seen a drought like this farmers pray for rain as their crops and livestock die some are forced to shoot starving cattle well others face the prospect of having to simply abandon their land on the other side of the world a similar story the french of those mountains are simply too dry about half of this farmer's corn crop has already died in the us record temperatures are fueling the worst wildfire in california history the twin blazes dubbed the mendo seen a complex have exploded to cover an area the size of la they call the trend hothouse earth i said. it's when the climate is much warmer than it is today three to four degrees. four to five degrees warmer than in the pre-industrial climate. international climate targets aim to limit the earth's warming to two degrees celsius but scientists now think even that is too high setting in motion processes which could create a domino effect such as glacial melting researchers argue that without putting in place specific human made climate protections the seas could rise but up to sixty metres so how to curb greenhouse gas emissions scientists say we need to cut industrial carbon travel less by plane and car and eat less meat they say already the earth is on the brink of irreversible warming with severe effects like those in australia the government there has announced a multi-million dollar relief package for farmers but with dry conditions forecast to continue that may not be enough. yes severe weather around the world to talk about that i'm joined now by lutes by sure he is it yes what those scientists look at is what happens if we don't manage to stop global warming at one point we get to tipping points it's like in a domino game you have a domino effect you tip over certain changes in the earth system and then global warming just reinforces itself and gets warmer and warmer and it's hard to stop it and it could lead up to five degrees of global warming it could lead up to ten meters of sea level rise up to sixty meters if you look over several centuries and those would be absolutely catastrophic effects even much worse than what we're experiencing now but climate scientists are not saying that we have reached a tipping point now and they're saying that there is still time to reduce c o two emissions and keep the temperature increase below two degrees celsius is that correct that's correct they're saying would really dangerously close to those first tipping points and once you took over the first domino. so you can get you know a spiraling effect and they say that first tipping point is between one and two passed in response to a sharp spike in measles cases in italy in the past few years when now while the only hers debate rollback parents no longer have to submit a doctor's note for enrollment in the coming school year. of the government's move is causing a stir online many social media users in italy are concerned the like this ph d. student who tweets that she finds it odd that in two thousand and eighty the italian government opposes compulsory vaccination of school age children while favoring compulsory hanging of crucifixes in public schools kids will thus be at risk from perfectly preventable diseases but at least they'll be able to implore god's help i guess she writes berlusconi's opposition forces italia party chimed in as well they took to twitter to spread the message that every year two point five million people are saved by vaccination followed by an appeal to prime minister calling to a new form of ignorance should in danger our health now concern is also coming from outside italy one englishman tweeted this this is truly nosy the price of such ignorance will be death but not the deaths of those propagating superstitious nonsense but the deaths of innocent kids exposed to deadly diseases as a consequence an american infectious disease expert warned of tourists about going to italy with the country quote in the midst of a huge measles outbreak while the government is making it easier to avoid vaccination and the world health organization reacted by tweeting this simple statement vaccines prevent deadly diseases. it is that simple over more on this story we want to bring in a couple of people tonight. the list phillip willing joins me from rome and dr c. hunted and immunisation specialist from the world health organization in europe joins us from copenhagen to both of you welcome to the day philip when you start with you give us some of the political background here i mean how did this anti-vaccination push how did it end up on the political agenda to begin with in italy. well i think the five star movement has played a key role in this that a senior partners in the coalition government and then typically subject to influence and that by the internet they are organized political activity on internet and they believe they now bottom up. approach to politics and they also represent a strong streak in italian political life skepticism of authority and skepticism of that expertise and so i think a lot of the settlements are fed into the move by the government to change the ruler on that vaccination. it remains to be seen know how it works out the government certainly says that the idea is. that it should set scholastic inclusion and make it simpler for parents and to get children into school that's the basic sort of positive side change trying to do let me pull in dr siddartha and dr this you know from the outside this sounds very worrying is they are able judum it medical reason to not require these vaccinations for children before they enroll in school. their. position paper into. publishing twenty seventeen actually recommending children should be checked for vaccination history. and to make sure. they have received. not. to be not vaccinated then adequate measures need to be taken by the local government so. this is an opportunity to remember not only to look for banks but for any bets and for that matter. action has been proven to be an effective strategy in several countries or even coverage. i mean i think most people would agree with that but unfortunately we're seeing a case where the government does not agree with it and what about the danger to the general public if parents are not vaccinating their children. it's a very valid question the i think you three un i think that people all of us know that amuse us is very infectious it spreads like an wildfire where they're fine either i'm vaccinate their children though those who don't get any vaccine or under vaccinated children who hasn't been received all the recommended two doses it will hit them if finds places where the measles vaccination isn't complete we have doctors we see cases of measles we see such cases happening in particularly under vaccination of pollution or wonders of the nation we also have seen parents and their. with the best part for us to remember is these deaths are preventable these cases are preventable we have a vaccine which is effective and we have to make sure that the community gets a ninety five percent of the community are protected by this vaccine and feel let me just ask you before we run out of time i mean how is this going down with the public is there much opposition to see this plan. well as you mentioned as a very heated debate and that sometimes violent debate. and social media but there is also position that nine regional governments have said they oppose this plan and a little drew up their own rules if the government goes ahead with it teaches it met with the. health minister saying that they also are responsible for the safety of that pupils and they're extremely worried about this change and there's a meeting case of a family in the north of italy going to court because the child was kept away from school because she had low unity and there was a chicken pox outbreak in the school and say she was denied education because of people had not had the jab and we will certainly be following this story philip whelan in rome and dr siddharta daughter with the world health organization in copenhagen to both of you gentleman thank you. well now to another story involving parents and children knowing what a mall when children separated from their parents at the u.s. border have been flown home and reunited with their forty families they were rejected under president almost trump's zero tolerance immigration policy where despite the dangers of the uncertainty many guatemalans continue to try to reach the border with the u.s. in our next report we follow a guatemalan woman and her child trying to get to the united states with hope of entering. miriam and karyn don't have much luggage they have little apart from their children they don't know what to expect but are well aware of all the possible perils. and much of that effort of putting her in danger in so many ways her health her life. so much could happen on the journey. where she could be raped or something could happen to her in that way. i'm risking a lot that is going on which are not only my life but hers to me but i. think this is the first talk meal that miriam and phyla to be eaten since they left on generous miriam decided to escape after injuring her partner's abuse for too long she spent the little money they had as they were crossing guatemala. many more. years we escaped from having what if he'd known he would never have let us go to this is he'd have done everything to stop us. but it was unbearable. the violence was having a clear impact on the little one. and also i mean that's you know. that's why i'm risking everything now that the yes i thought it. was someone else that is. miriam also has an eight year old son whom she left behind. she doesn't know what the she'll ever see him again. but felt that he received. what is going. it's very difficult to make such decisions. you know what no woman deserves to go through got it about. that up i'll just tell you that i have to be strong and fight for a better future for both my children. ok even if it hurts that walk is that why it's hard but i have to fight that ossie they are going to check. the fight for a better future is what motivates hundreds of thousands to embark on this perilous journey through central america every year they have dreams of a better life in the u.s. a life without violence a life with work. try to get on freight trains in mexico then they travel thousands of kilometers. miriam and violet to collect some money in order to buy a warm breakfast before the train arrives if they manage to get on they'll have to survive without food miriam is worried that she might be separated from violet at the u.s. border like sounds of other parents and children. she thinks u.s. president donald trump is unfair. to her very precious to her and then someone comes and says only because he has power in his country. but he's going to separate me from my daughter. and he has no right. to. finally the train arrives. this is the area where people get on the train and train. fifty mph one step aside it can mean the difference between living and dying. now miriam will hand over her daughter temporarily. miriam on a just get on the train and so. with violet. they will soon disappear from view bound for the us full of fears and hopes at the same time. ten years ago europe's first war of the twenty first century broke out between russia and georgia and today georgia's president laid a wreath at the memorial to the hundreds killed in the conflict. people along with. the our reporter emily sure went to a closer look in the georgian town of. landfalls on the fault lines of a frozen conflict some maps show the boundary line to the russian backed breakaway region of south running straight through his farm. signs in the distance read state border a line most of the international community doesn't 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congressman thompson. thank you so much. >> well, thank you. and thank you for mentioning the first responders. the community has been fantastic. first responders are real heroes and heroines. they are out there everyday and their life is on the line for their community. thank you, anderson. >> than you, congressman. >> we wish you the best. the news continues right now. i want to hand it over to chris. "cuomo prime time" starts now. thank you, anderson. i am chris cuomo, and welcome to "prime time." the gop primary for governor in kansas should have been a ho-hum race, that is until president trump got involved and went against the gop incumbent in favor of kris kobach. yes, that state official who helped trump with that fugazi voter fraud panel. well, the race is now a hotbed of controversy. it is too close to call. then kobach declared victory. then his lead was cut, and an official is blaming the secretary of state for getting it wrong in favor of kobach. the secretary of state is kris kobach, and his office would oversee what seems like a certain recount. so everyone is talking about what he will do. we are talking to kris kobach. he'll be live in a moment. also the death toll from hurricane maria in puerto rico just soared. it is now more than 20 times what the government told us it was in december. why is the truth only coming out now, almost a year after the storm? and why isn't the president saying anything about it? those are americans down there. also a state of emergency declared in charlottesville ahead of the first anniversary of that deadly unite the right rally. how are we doing 12 months later? d.l. hughley joins us with a message he says you won't like, but you need to hear. it's my birthday. not bad for 61. not bad for 61. let's get after it. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com Chris Cuomo asks the tough questions to newsmakers in Washington and around the world. it's purely sort of a titular role. you're head of the state election process, but all of the work is done at the county level. the counties doing the counting of ballots. so there's really no point to it, but i said if my opponent wishes me to, i'd be happy to. but it's purely symbolic. i don't think he understands the process. >> so is that a yes? >> yeah, we'll be formally answering his request tomorrow. but i'll give you a heads-up. yes, i'll be happy to recuse myself. but as i say, it really doesn't make any difference. my office doesn't count the votes. the counties do. >> is the process of oversight in a recount by your office different than it is in the main count? >> well, not necessarily. i mean what our office does is it communicates the standards set by kansas law to the counties. >> right. >> so we give them the official guidelines. for the provisional ballot counting that's going to occur next week, we send them the same so it's not something i get involved in anyway. >> look, here's the game that we're playing here is that it's not about whether there's a law that says you have to step away or whether or not you have direct control over it. it's the semblance of impropriety. you know, it's what seems fishy, and that's really the standard that public officials should adhere to. we've made crimes like the new bar for public officials. it should be a little better than that. but the reason i ask you about whether or not your office's role is the same in the main count versus the recount is because shelly harms, the thomas county clerk, she says that they counted 522 votes for your opponent and that she showed a scan of the kansas city star form that showed 522 votes. yet somehow when it got to your office, it became communicated as 422 votes. that smells bad, does it not, mr. secretary of state? >> well, if you put it in context, it smells normal. every year there are at least a dozen clerical errors that happen in the transcribing. Chris Cuomo asks the tough questions to newsmakers in Washington and around the world. a secretary of state overseeing an election in which he himself is on the ballot. >> just in this case because of how close it is and you're going to be over the recount. that's why. >> like i said, it's purely symbolic because i don't have any involvement in the recount anyway. but i said of course if he wants me to, i would. he says, i do want you to, so i will. >> now, we go to bigger issue of what made this race interesting in the beginning which was the president weighing in and saying i think that it should be the secreta secretary of state kobach and not the sitting governor of in party. i want him. and they say by all accounts, it helped you, that it boosted your fate within the primary. have you now really on the precipice of victory. do you believe the president was paying you back for loyalty? >> no, i don't think so. i think the president was looking at the race, and he was saying, look, we've got an establishment, more traditional insider who's in the office right now, and we have kris kobach, someone i've worked with. i know him well. i've advised him on immigration issues both during the campaign and during the presidency, so he knows my advice. he knows my policies. and i think they line up more closely with his. so i think that's what drove him. >> what does it mean to you that the democrats do see it as a loyalty play and they believe you're someone they could beat in a race that ordinarily they would run away from. they thought that, you know, your opponent would beat them. he has the incumbency effect. but now because of you and everything that happened with that fraud, voter fraud commission that went nowhere, they believe you're vulnerable. >> well, they can think that. i don't think that's correct. i mean if you -- you know, there are many people who have tried to armchair quarterback this one and say which candidate, colyer or kobach, would be better for the democrats. who would be easier for the democrats to beat? you know, my personal view is that my opponent would be easier to beat because he is the successor to sam brownback, who's popularity numbers are very low, and the democrats for the last cycles have run the same playbook every year. the republican is sam brownback 2.0. this congressman is just like sam brownback and this state rep and they try to link everybody with him. and with governor colyer, it is easier to do, because he was brownback's lieutenant gov r nor. >> you have a big issue on your side, which is what happened with that voter fraud thing, which really seemed to have been a complete witch hunt from the outside. not only did your commission never deliver anything substantive in terms of finding voter fraud, but it seemed to be a fool's errand that the president wanted out there to forward his notion of millions of illegal votes that was never true. >> yeah, i couldn't disagree with you more. the commission was shut down because of more than a dozen lawsuits filed by groups from the left that didn't want the commission to do its work, and it became so hobbled by lawsuits that it had to shut down. but in the time that the commission was in existence, the commission pointed out more than a thousand cases of convictions for voter fraud, almost all of them since the year 2000. these are convictions, which are the tip of the tip of the iceberg. most don't result in convictions. on top of that, looking at 21 states saw 8,400 cases of double voting. just among the 21 states looked at. if you extrapolate to all 50 states, it increases exponentially. >> you can't. >> you can do the same analysis. >> no, because it's not math. every state's different. you say -- >> okay. let's [ overlapping voices ] >> i just want to make one point for clarity for the audience. you were presented with evidence. you didn't find evidence. you didn't do investigating. and we looked into your numbers obviously in preparing for the interview when it came in. the 1,000 convictions, first of all, you want to talk about context. you had a billion votes since 2000. so you're talking about 1,000 convictions. when you look inside that number, i believe you got it from the heritage foundation. that report includes misconduct by election officials and other insiders. it's not about voters who are not legal or double voting. that's about this whole thing, every type of basket of conviction you could get within the voting system. that's not what you were supposed to be looking for. >> the total of the thousand or so convictions, yes, it includes some misconduct, but that is a tiny, tiny slice of it. >> but it's just from the heritage foundation. the panel didn't investigate and find. you were given this by the heritage foundation. >> these are facts the commission was assembling. >> it's fact as far as the heritage foundation is included. and the 8,400 instances come from the government accountability institute. >> let's talk about that. >> go ahead. >> what the commission would have done if we had continued and not been hobbled by the lawsuits is you would take the same type of analysis that the government accountability institute did and you would apply that to all 50 states. you'd do the same analysis for one of the things the commission might have -- >> we don't know what it is. >> can i continue? >> please. go ahead. >> one of the things we might have looked at is the number of non-citizens who vote in the elections. that is a very substantial number. now, in states like kansas, the number may be in the hundreds or thousands voting in any given election. but in a state like california, the number is going to be much, of larger. in a state like texas, much, much larger. >> that's a guess. >> so those are some of the things -- well, the commission would have actually done the research and used government resources to actually look and get some actual data on the table. i mean it surprises me that people on the left are always simply saying nothing to see here, nothing to see here, don't look at voter fraud -- >> you keep bashing it as the left was coming after you. meanwhile an e-mail comes out that one of the people on your staff was looking for someone to help out who was conservative and christian. it says right in the e-mail. so don't make it like it was some fool's errand on the political side, like the left was coming after you. your own commission was looking for someone pretty confident that he's conservative and christian too because that's what you want in a bean counter, right? >> that wasn't -- >> a conservative and a christian. >> that wasn't commission -- that e-mail wasn't a staff of the commission. >> who was she? >> but the point is we were talking about the larger context. >> who was she? >> the larger context is people on the left -- i can't even remember the person's name who said that. >> i do. >> the larger context is that the people on the left -- people who don't think voter fraud is a problem. let's use those terms. >> people who don't think 2 million people voted in california and there was no need for tax dollars to go out there and try to prove we have a problem with voter fraud and we don't. that was the supposition. listen, secretary of state, i don't want to go down a rabbit hole. >> a thousand is not a lot? >> i don't know what the number is. i could pull out a number. 15,000, 18,000. [ overlapping voices ] >> you don't have any proof of it. you got presented with studies by -- >> these are convictions. i'm talking about a thousand convictions. i'm asking you, is a thousand a big number? >> obviously it's going to be about the context. i'd want to know the cases. if i had my own investigation, i would not use the heritage foundation for my information. >> these are documented cases, documented in the court records. >> right, and they also include all types of election workers, not the kind of stuff that you said you were going to find, listen, secretary of state, you're always welcome on this show to talk about what you find, and i want to talk to you when we find out what happens with your election as well. you're always welcome to make the case. >> all right. thank you. >> good luck to you. all right. devin nunes in the news. it's no question that he's been a loyalist for the president, but the chairman -- devin nunes is the chairman of the powerful house intelligence committee. he was just caught on tape actually trying to undermine the mueller investigation. remember what his job is, his oversight job. you're going to hear the recording ahead. ♪ it is such a good time to kiss ♪ ♪ it is such a good time to dance ♪ ♪ it is such a good time to [ laughing ] ♪ scoobidoo doobidoo ♪ scoobidoo doobidoo [ goose honking ] ♪ [ laughing ] a bad day on the road still beats a good one off it. ♪ progressive helps keep you out there. we know there's nothing quite like watching a son rise. we know that what's outside can change what's inside. we know the great outdoors. we love the great outdoors. bass pro shops and cabela's are proud to salute you, the great american hunter, with the fall hunting classic. offering you the best of the best deals, gear, family lines to all military. facts first here on this show. how many died in puerto rico because of hurricane maria? 64? no. the new number is 20 times that, and that number is about 400 lives short of who we lost in hurricane katrina. you remember what trump said about that? the aftermath of the hurricane? here it is. i want you to hear it again because it matters. >> if you look at a real catastrophe like katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died and you look at what happened here with really a storm that was just totally overpowering, nobody has ever seen anything like this, what is your -- what is your death count as of this moment, 17 in. >> 16 people certified. >> 16 people certified. 16 people versus in the thousands. >> so in the thousands would be a disaster. different order of magnitude. so what is he going to say now? we'll get to that in a second. 16 never made sense. neither did 64, not if you were on the ground like we were and so many at cnn and other outlets. so much of puerto rico was shut down. medical care was compromised. medications were in short supply. basic water was spotty. there was power almost nowhere. so we were skeptical, and we pressed and tested power. and trump and his folk fought back calling it -- well, you know what they called it. fake news. despite the fake news media in conjunction with the democrats, an amazing job is being done in puerto rico, trump tweeted. the fake news networks are working overtime in puerto rico doing their best to take the spirit away from our soldiers and first r's, responders. shame. shame is right. shame on him, especially as reporting and studies started to show what we all suspected. the death toll was way, way wrong and underreported. in november, cnn surveyed 112 funeral homes finding that funeral home directors and staff had identified at least 499 deaths. then what happens? in may, you get a team from harvard university and researchers. they published a study, and they said in the "new england journal of medicine" that their as a matter of fact was about 4,645 deaths. now we know the current estimate from the government, and it is over 1,400. and as for the journalists who weathered the storm there and spent weeks covering what was obviously an inadequate government response, called out by trump as liars, then what do we learn? well, fema puts out a statement just now in july. it says it was understaffed and underprepared for last year's hurricane season. the agency said, quote, fema leadership acknowledged that the agency could have better anticipated the severity of hurricanes irma and maria, and that they would cause long-term, significant damage to the territories' infrastructure. so now we know. it's not 16. it was never 16 or 64. it's 20 times that. so what does the president say now? nothing. he doubled down when he thought he was right. but now he won't man up now that we know he was wrong. he won't even show respect to americans who lost loved ones. instead, he had a white house deputy put out this statement. there's only one official count, and the actual counting of disaster-related fatalities is the local responsibility of puerto rico. the whole of government remains focused on ongoing recovery and preparedness for the current hurricane season. you know what that sounds like? fake news. information that's not complete, and it's done to distort and to deceive. and they're not going to come on here and defend their position. why? because i'm too tough? shame on them. it's not about tough. it's about truth. trump owes the truth. the truth he denied to the people who paid with their lives and those who were left in horrible conditions in puerto rico until today. we will not let it go. we will not forget. all right. our next story. you hear what trump pal devin nunes admitted to on tape, right? he is the chairman of the house intel committee, who seems to think oversight means something very unusual and potentially dangerous. we have the secret recording that exposes trump's bodyguard on the hill, and we're going to take it up in the great debate for you right after this. the fact is, there are over ninety-six hundred roads named "park" in the u.s. it's america's most popular street name. but allstate agents know that's where the similarity stops. if you're on park street in reno, nevada, the high winds of the washoe zephyr could damage your siding. and that's very different than living on park ave in sheboygan, wisconsin, where ice dams could cause water damage. but no matter what park you live on, one of 10,000 local allstate agents knows yours. now that you know the truth, are you in good hands? 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(vo) go national. go like a pro. and mueller won't clear the president, we're the only ones, which is really the danger. that's why i keep -- thank you for saying it by the way. i mean we have to keep all these seats. we have to keep the majority. if we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away. >> you hear the forks and knives. i wonder why the people weren't saying to him, what did you just say? anyway, is that what he's supposed to be doing as an oversight position? oversight over the executive branch? this is the making of a great debate. we have nina turner and mike shields. nina turner, do you believe that what devin nunes was saying there is worthy of censure? >> well, chris, it's certainly no surprise what he was saying. nunes has had the propensity for telling the truth about how he really feels about this president from, you know, giving him information when they were doing the russia probe right in his own committee. you know, he served on the transition team, and he also advised the trump campaign. so i'm not surprised at all that we caught the congressman telling the truth about how he feels it is his duty and the duty of all members of the gop to protect the president versus keeping his oath of office and standing up for the american people and, as congressman lieu said, looking to see where the information takes us. >> right. i'm surprised. mike, i'm surprised, not about the we need to keep the majority so we can protect the president. that's politics. i totally get it. he was at a gop fund-raiser. but it's the first part. it's that it's just about us. no, no, no, my friend. you are in an oversight position. as the chairman of a committee, you're supposed to be overseeing, not protecting. what do you make of that? >> well, first of all, these are things that devin has said publicly, and, in fact, some of the things he said, paul ryan has said and no one even paid attention to it. but now we have a secret recording so it looks sinister to put a secret recording on television -- >> who said the job of the committee is to protect the president from any bad information or any bad action? >> well, the job of the committee is to stop people like adam schiff, whose mission is to get the president. so when you have someone as partisan as adam schiff, who literally walks out of hearings to go talk to reporters and tell them what's going on, who does fund-raisers all over the country saying the opposite thing. we've got to get the president. i have evidence of collusion. he won't tell us what it is, but he's basically saying i have evidence of collusion of the president in a very partisan way, ridiculing the entire committee, turning it into a partisan circus. so -- >> devin nunes -- [ overlapping voices ] >> nunes wants to fight back but isn't he the one who went to the white house and gave them house? >> absolutely. you stole my thunder. the chairman of the intelligence committee, him, had a press conference. then he snuck over and went to the white house to tell all the information that he had in violation of the duties that he holds as the chairman of the intelligence committee. come on. who does that? devin nunes does that. and it is wrong. >> who walks out of a hearing, an intelligence hearing -- if you want the american people to believe credibly that there's actual, real oversight in congress, who walks out of an intelligence hearing to report what's going on in the hearing, portions of it, that will be damaging rhetoric for the democrats and goes back into the hearing as the ranking member, who would by the chairman if -- >> [ overlapping voices ] >> the onus is on the chairman of that committee not to go over to the white house, not to go over to the white house to tell the white house all the information that they had just gotten from that investigation. >> why can't both of you have a point by the way? hold on a second. why can't both of you have a point that you don't like that schiff goes out and talk to the media. nobody should be talking. you should keep it quiet to yourselves although he would argue i have to because these guys are lying to you, and that nina has a point, mike, that the chairman shouldn't be playing favorites with the white house when they're trying to oversee the white house, which he did overtly and now made clear that that's been his mission. >> and what i would say is you're right. the house intelligence committee has turned into a partisan circus. i don't deny that. i believe democrats play two games here. on one hand they say the president colluded with russia. we have to take this investigation seriously. there was clearly russian interference in the election. then they turn it into such a partisan fund-raising apparatus, doing media hits, hitting the president -- >> so have you guys. [ overlapping voices ] >> but this is -- this partisanship has gone too far, so much so that there's no more loyalty to -- >> get rid of adam schiff. we'll end the partisanship. >> and that's the problem. nina, mike, you laid out the arguments. you obviously -- we have a partisan rift. there is problems on both sides. only one of them is the chairman, though. i leave it to you at home. get on twitter. let's continue the conversation. you can find both of these good people, and you can find me. i'll moderate. thank you to both of you for making the cases. all right. as you may know, we are coming up on the one-year anniversary of a really, really ugly day in our history. white nationalists are now planning new protests to mark this anniversary, the one since the charlottesville horror show. the city is bracing for unrest once again. comedian and political commentator d.l. hughley says you need to hear the truth from him, next. i woke up in memphis and told... 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that's where we are in america right now. >> you see that in charlottesville how, by when the president said two things? when he said not all of them are bad people, and when he said you have problems on the left and you have problems on the right. >> not just charlottesville, but the entire tone of the country. i just watched kobach, who was on, who is running for governor. and he talked about how, you know, he did the commission on voter fraud. isn't it funny how he said there were thousands of people -- maybe a thousand people who fraudulently voted. we'll investigate a problem like voter fraud, but not how many people get killed by handguns in this country. we know it's 30,000 people. so a thousand people who fraudulently vote is a problem. but 30,000 people who get killed by guns is not. so even now we contort to make what we want truthful. we contort around all -- either there's a truth or there isn't. the bottom line in this country, it is wrong to be hateful and to lead people in hate and try to subvert other people's rights and voices and to be brutal to them, or it isn't. >> do you believe the president doesn't believe that? >> i believe the president is a wanton racist, and i believe that america is not uncomfortable with it. when you tell me 89% of republicans support him no matter what he does, i'll say this. i can't say all his supporters are racist, but i can say them. for them, being a racist is not a disqualifier. >> but i think that's a high bar. look, i said to you on your podcast today, do i see that white extremists and white power people and the qanon and the conspiracy crazies, that they have cottoned to trump? yes. is that a problem? yes. >> white men don't get to decide what racism is. white people don't get to decide it. they were so bad at judging it every time it happened. they were bad at judging it during slavery. they were bad at judging it during jim crow. white people don't get to play this game. you don't get to decide what the rules are here. the bottom line is this. we have watched children being put in cages. and the very scriptures that they quoted to put black men in chains, they used to put immigrants in cages. either it's wrong or it isn't. either we are in america where everybody is same or it isn't. you have laura ingraham on talking about even legal immigration. so let's not -- listen, i don't have a dog in this race except to say this. now we've seen what side people have chosen. i can say this unequivocally. if barack obama were doing what donald trump is doing, then two things would happen. the nation would call for him to be impeached, and i would be his loudest opponent. you can't do to people what trump and the republicans are doing to this country. >> you would have called out barack obama if -- >> absolutely. >> -- was saying what donald trump is? >> not only would i call him out, i would do it loudly and every day. >> why? >> because right is right and wrong is wrong. right is right and wrong is wrong. our country is being torn apart. there is a spirit in this country that is so foul, i don't even know if america -- i don't think we can come back from this. >> i know we disagree on this, not because i'm some pollyanna. i believe what do you see at the same time that you see a kris kobach saying what's not true? you see the media stepping up, checking him saying, this is what's true. you're wrong. the president, we do it all the time. he creates a fight and does all of this fake news b.c., and we do it, because there is a a right. there is a wrong. the truth is a side too. you've got the left, you've got the right, and you've got reasonable. >> we get to make our own truths up in this country. we get to hear what we want to hear. >> that doesn't mean there isn't truth. >> no, no. but it also means that we get to decide what we want to hear. i'll say this. i can tell you this, and i've gone all around this country. i've played places every where. now we get to make our own truth up. we get to decide -- like i watch people contort and say, well, even if he did meet with people, there was nothing wrong with it because people do it every day. that's a lie. when you say that the media is the enemy of the american people, that's a lie. i watched somebody on cnn last night say, i would believe trump over jesus. if truth dies, how can democracy live? >> well, listen, i'm going to end it on that because i can't -- if you heard somebody say i believe trump over jesus, then i have to concede. the point for this night only. >> wait a minute. my book. "how not to get shot: and other advice from white people." now it's a "new york times" best-seller. >> will you sign one for me? it's my birthday. >> not only that, we'll do some other stuff. >> 58 years old. like good, don't i? >> you got to have some black in you, i'm telling you. >> thank you to d.l. hughley. it is one of the four pillars of his immigration plan. do you remember this chant from trump? >> we have to end chain migration. we have to end chain migration. >> is the president really about to add his in-laws to the list of undesirable immigrants, and maybe his wife too? he may have to if he wants to own his own words. facts, next. salads should look like this. crisp leaves of lettuce. freshly made dressing. clean food that looks this good. delivered to your desk. now delivering to home or office. panera. food as it should be. ♪ (shelee) if we can create our own energy, we can take care of this beautiful place that i grew up in. ♪ try new viactiv digestive health. the only probiotic derived chocolatey chew to help balance gut bacteria. available at rite aid and amazon. all right. let's check in with don lemon. a preview of "cnn tonight" minutes away, don, what do you got? like a metaphor -- ah, i was about to take a shot at you. is that a birthday cake? ♪ happy birthday to you >> thank you very much. ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday dear my ugly friend chris cuomo happy birthday to you ♪ i love you, bro. >> ah. >> so, listen. i wanted to show that video of you that i have of you playing ping-pong. >> winning? >> with your shirt off. >> it was not approved by the big guys. but everyone knows you have a complete man crush on me. we have a bromance going on. and i have evidence. can we put up the evidence of that? so that's chris and i hanging out. that's chris and i hanging out in the summer. i think that's kate behind us. that's kate. >> yeah, she's appalled by what you're saying. >> i was like, chris, hang on, stop, boom, you planted one on me. >> you had a little bit of chocolate on the side of your face. you have always been good to me. you have a good man and you have a friend. and this is very nice. one of the beautiful things about being here at night is to have anderson then you to be working with friends like this, what could be better? >> it's a sandwich. listen, this is about you. this isn't about me. you have one of the kindest people i know. and you love to hear yourself talk. and nobody loves chris more than chris, and if you don't believe me, ask chris. >> with friends like this -- >> no, but seriously, you -- and you have an amazing family. you're a great dad. he takes me out on his boat. he teaches me how to fish like i've never fished. i grew up in louisiana. >> i know. i know. >> but you're a really good guy. there's not a bad bone in your body. and, you know, you were just on with d.l. talking about race. this man right here, everybody's got a lot to learn from him when it comes to race and diversity and having friends of all different backgrounds. and that says a lot about you. i got spike lee coming up. and the mayor of charlottesville. >> very important conversations. >> happy birthday, brother. i love you. what are you, 62? >> yes, 62. i haven't had the work done like you. >> your forehead -- >> all natural. he's got a girdle on and all this stuff. when we come back, something happened on fox last night. it demands a response. i respond ed to it before it evn happened, and there's a point to be made. closing next. ♪ ♪ keep it comin' love. if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. stadium pa : all military members stand and be recognized. sometimes fans cheer for those who wear a different uniform. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that's why we're providing half off family lines to all military. whoooo. you rely on tripadvisor so you don't miss out on the perfect hotel... but did you know you can also use tripadvisor so you don't miss out on the best price? 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did you catch the video in the box next to her? farm workers. subtle. about as subtle as her shut up and dribble comment about nba players. listen, i didn't plan, but i responded to this last night. i told you the story of my family. i would not be here if trump had his way. and there are millions like me. my story is common. not uncommon. we stand on the shoulders of giants. ingraham talks of changes that none of us ever voted for and most of us don't like. wrong. 84% of those surveyed in june called legal immigration a good thing. and you know what, that number should be higher. and you know who agrees with me? trump's in-laws. viktor and amalija knavs. better known as the parents of melania trump from slovenia. they stood alongside their attorney today who announced their days of living in this country on green cards are over. they're now u.s. citizens. bravo for them. what the white house won't officially explain is how did those people get their green cards? we found out what the white house doesn't want you to know. that's our job. a source with direct knowledge told cnn the first lady sponsored her parents. good for her. that's a practice that critics, including her husband, call chain migration. something that he tweeted less than a year ago must end now. suggesting that some who come in can be truly evil. so now his in-laws are outlaws? his mother? his people where he grew up? his kids' mothers? all immigrants. all got in here in ways or with potential that he now calls undeserving. i argue this is beyond partisan. this is beyond politics. this is objectively ugly and i will be damned if i'm going to just listen to the idea that people like my grandparents and waves of people like them, millions in this country, are going to be discounted as some abhorrent aspect of a pure place. be clear. illegal entry is a problem. i know it, you know it. it has to be mitigated. we need secure borders. of course. of course. but they're saying something different. they're saying something more. they're saying the people are a problem, not just the entry. distinguish, it's the who for them, not just the how. this is a land founded, funded, fabricated, and fought for by others. and that's america at her best. diversity is our strength. you cannot argue otherwise if you enlist the truth. immigrants of all colors and creeds willingly and unwillingly built her, paid for her, enriched her, and fought for her. i said that twice because we have to remember that sacrifice. immigrants are here to stay because that's all we are. to turn a phrase back on our us

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Anderson Cooper takes viewers beyond the headlines with in-depth reporting and investigations. rosenstein threatening to impeach him for not providing enough records to congress yet reported when some documents are provided nunes does not actually read them nor will he answer many questions, especially not outside the friendly confines of fox news. >> you stepped aside from this investigation? >> just like you know already i'm not going to talk about intelligence committee business. democracy dies in darkness, my friend, get to work. >> the leading democrat party propaganda -- >> the chairman can say what he likes about the press. keeping him honest, it's his own partisanship at issue here. the house intelligence committee is not just any committee, one of two legislative bodies responsible for offer seeing some of the most important agencies we have and keeping the deepest secrets we hold. it matters whether or not a committee chairman is carrying water for their president and Anderson Cooper takes viewers beyond the headlines with in-depth reporting and investigations. exactly what i saw behind closed doors with the witnesses devin nunes was unwilling to call, the subpoenas hwa unwilling to issue for the record and all the efforts he made to do what he could to act as donald trump's fixer in congress. now, the american people can judge it for themselves because they now heard it for themselves. >> saying it's his job and the republicans' job to clear the president. some people have been saying this is a partisan politician making a partisan speech at a fund-raiser. to that, what do you say? >> america was attacked by russia. they didn't attack us to just screw around or test software, they attacked the idea of america, that if you work hard here, you can make it anywhere here. they want to undermine that so that idea doesn't go to russia. you would think republicans and democrats would unite as an anti-dote towards that attack and make sure it doesn't happen again. every time we need devin nunes on a committee that has always been bipartisan, he has chosen to put the president ahead of the country. now, in 89 days we have a chance to go in a different direction and not make it just about politics, about us and democracy. >> i'm sure if it was democratic president, there are democrats who would fault the same way. >> i hope not. >> congress is supposed to be a check and balance on the executive branch. your democratic congressman said nunes should resign for perverting the oath he took. >> i think that paul ryan, speaker ryan should remove devin nunes from being the chairperson. i don't think he should resign. that's on his constituents. if they also believe we have a duty to protect our country above anyone else they should vote him out on november 6th. i hope they do. they have a strong candidate i think will work in a bipartisan way so this doesn't happen again. >> you saw our reporter talking to devin nunes and trying to get a statement from paul ryan all day. there has been radio silence. should the house leadership condemn these comments in your opinion. you said he should take him off the committee. >> paul ryan should condemn this because this goes to the corruption donald trump promised americans he would clean up. when i go across the country or talk to my own constituents, they're concerned about their healthcare and paychecks and concerned nothing gets solved in washington because it's all about power and corruption. if we wanted to show the american people that's not what washington is about and they are empowered, we should get rid of a corrupt chairman doing everything he can to protect the president in the investigation. >> you really think he is corrupt? >> i think he's been corrupted with power and he believes his job is to protect president trump. our country suffers because of that. because the house intelligence committee chairman cannot show unity and protect us against future russian attacks, as we speak right now, the russians are attacking us. they're not afraid of us. they believe devin nunes and donald trump have given them green lights. i think there's too much corruption and what this election is about. >> congressman swalwell, thank you. i want to get two more views, from wilson, author, and president of the senate conservatives fund. rick, these comments by nunes, are they really a surprise, considering all of nunes' past behavior when it comes to defending the president and the things we've seen him do? >> devin nunes said out loud what everyone has known for a long time. he admitted his culpability in an effort to obstruct the investigation to the ties of the president of the united states to russia. this is a guy who is now facilitating what is essentially a conspiracy to obstruct justice and essentially facilitating for political purposes only an investigation that could get into the heart of the russian meddling in our elections. i think it was one of the most shocking -- i'm not surprised because devin nunes is about as intelligent as a bucket of warm spit. i'm shocked he did it in any room whatsoever where anyone could have had a recording device. this is 101 stuff. this guy went out there and said things that put him as a target as someone who is inordinately corrupt and aiding and abetting the obstruction of an investigation into russian attacks on our country. >> ken, is it chairman nunes' and other republicans job to clear the president? >> not to clear him, no. he's come to the conclusion, quite publicly, that there wasn't collusion. that's different from the russian attacks on our elections. you heard the congressman just before us conflate the two. he jumped from one to the other quite smoothly. frankly, the president messes himself up doing this, too. there is a difference between the two. what devin nunes is doing inelegantly, i will grant you, the democrat side of the democrats saying, elect me so i can impeach the president. you have one of the biggest donors in tom stire. this is an element of the campaign this year. it is an element of the campaign, whether it should be or not, i think not, it is, on both sides of the aisle. one side wants -- they're selling impeaching the president and the other side is selling protecting the president from impeachment. that's the reality of this election. it isn't new. >> rick. >> ken, i want to say this very clearly. devin nunes did not come to the conclusion that there was no collusion with russia or conspiracy to engage with russia, he simply said he would stop any investigation that could lead to that. we will never find out if we have devin nunes in charge of this. this is the proverbial fox in the henhouse problem and nunes has stated over and over again. he's gone out with wild claims about unmasking and all these secret reports he produced and all been completely non-entities, nothing burgers of the worst kind. we see the secret agenda underneath all this theater he's been engaged in. that agenda is to -- >> secret? >> to protect the donald trump presidency no matter what. this is not his job as a sworn member of congress. they swear to uphold the constitution, they're a co-equal branch of the government. i know you know that. they're not a bunch of junior managers at a trump golf club trying to make the boss happy. >> look, devin nunes can easily, and he appears to believe he is doing both of those things. he of course has not said what you just said he said, he has said the president hasn't colluded with the russians. that is his conclusion. you may not agree with that conclusion, you're waiting for actual evidence to show up. >> why would we want that? >> and then of course the continuing rhetorical problem of people on both sides of the aisle that conflate the russian involvement in our elections pleural, and the question of collusion of which there is -- >> the president himself -- >> and i don't know about the -- >> ken, you pointed out -- >> devin nunes -- >> has you pointed out -- >> can i finish? >> you pointed out as the president impeachment, impeachment is a political underundertaking. >> you can keep going. i will ask you this question. as you pointed out, the president continues to call the mueller investigation a witch hunt. he's not talking about the allegation of collusion, talking about the entire thing as a witch hunt. devin nunes in that tape says if sessions doesn't unrecuse himself, if mueller won't clear the president, it's up to house republicans. that doesn't sound like a co-equal branch of government. >> that's the conclusion he's come to. >> well, and he's done that insofar as he has the authority to do it. >> he hasn't seen any of the evidence. >> that's not completely true. there's overlapping evidence they have the mueller folks have. >> and what happened in watergate, there still isn't evidence of collusion, and that's because there wasn't collusion. there was involvement by the russians in the election but that's not -- >> you say based on -- you've Anderson Cooper takes viewers beyond the headlines with in-depth reporting and investigations. conspiracy and collusion. i think we have a lot more trail to travel down with the evidence the mueller investigation has been gathering. what you saw in this recording with devin nunes, he doesn't care. he can have a videotape of vladamir putin handing trump a bag of cash and he would say, no, we have to protect the president, no, we will block any investigation, we will try to get the deputy attorney general fired so we can have our people short circuit into the president's investigation into russia and investigation into the interference, which is part and parcel of the president's team colluding with russia in this election. >> ken, i want you to respond and we have to go. >> this does appear to be where you end up depends where you start. rick starts with -- you heard the book title. i am a truth finder and truth seeker and also litigated in the fisa court so the unmasking is a serious deal to me. there is no collusion here. >> you can't say that -- you have not heard the evidence. >> anderson, i answered that question. asked and answered, your honor. >> the collusion so far, my qualifier, what we've seen so far spending more time than was spent in watergate is no evidence yet. you don't have any either. you're describing circumstances -- >> we do not have the evidence. i'm saying we should as americans to wait for the investigation to conclude. as a law enforcement officer i assume you believe the same thing. >> yes. i just think all the information they need is available at this point. what else is there to get? >> ken, appreciate it. rick as well. for the record we requested devin nunes tonight. he did not respond to our question. coming up new clues with what robert manafort is up to, the president's ex-partner and the citizenship of the first lady's parents and how they got through in the first place, a door of their son-in-law trying to slam shut for others. and director spike lee and a story from decades ago rings terribly true today. board of directors the chili pepper sweat-out. not cool. freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting? now that's cool! coolsculpting safely freezes and removes fat cells with little or no downtime. and no surgery. results and patient experience may vary. some common side effects include temporary numbness, discomfort,and swelling. ask your doctor if coolsculpting is right for you and visit coolsculpting.com today for your chance to win a free treatment. . the judge in the paul manafort tax fraud case made headlines saying he was wrong. and that won't the other news. rick gates could signal how important he is. what are you learning about a discussion lawyers had with the judge about gates? >> reporter: anderson, as the president continues to attack the whole mueller investigation as a witch hunt that's run its course, we learned more evidence in fact the focus of this investigation, beyond the manafort trialy the question of russian interference and the question of whether the trump campaign cooperated with that russian interference is still an open investigation. there was testimony on tuesday, rick gates, the former deputy campaign chairman for the trump campaign, was questioned about his interviews, more than 20 interviews with the special counsel. the prosecutor said he wanted that testimony kept secret, because as the prosecutor described in papers presented to the judge, that relates to an ongoing criminal investigation in his words. what are the two lines of investigation special counsel are looking at. manafort's financial crimes we've been following these last few days at court and also russian interference and was there any cooperation from the trump campaign. by the prosecutors saying that is part of an ongoing criminal investigation, you get an indication that line of inquiry is still not closed. there have also been clashes between the prosecutors and the judge and the judge at one point admitting he was wrong. what else did he say? >> that's one of the interesting qualities of this trial. the judge is a very vocal judge. i've been there several times as he chastised a prosecutor almost like a schoolteacher, telling him to look him in the eye and give a yes answer instead of a yeah answer. there was a moment yesterday the judge disputed the prosecution's ability to keep an expert witness inside the courtroom, in this case, a former irs agent and expert tax witness, the crime involved tax evasion. the prosecutor said, wait a second, judge, you approved this decision earlier, just look at the transcript. lo and behold they looked at the transcript and the judge did in fact approve that. today, a bit of mea culpa from the judge, i did say that was okay, my fault, my bad. >> thanks very much. a happy moment for first lady melania trump as her parents became u.s. citizens and the parents controversial calls to end the immigration policy that brought them here. according to a source with direct knowledge, she did what many children do, sponsored her parents' green cards. this is what the president is trying to eliminate. he calls it chain migration. under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. >> we want to get rid of chain migration. ending chain migration. >> ending chain migration. >> this was a schumer deal. schumer wanted this. >> we have to get rid of chain migration, all of these things we're talking about. >> a guy comes in and then you have to bring his aunt, his uncle, his father, his grandfather, his grandson. >> a total desires that threatens our security and economy. >> and by a different marriage -- >> provides a gateway for terrorism. they think it's good politically. i tell you what, i think it's horrible politically. what do i know? but i did become president in a year and a half. the first in-law's attorney calls it family reunification, not immigration and bedrock policy. the first lady's office declined to comment. what can you tell us about the process the first lady's parents 20 went through to become citizens? >> we're learning how melania trump's parents came to this country and became citizens earlier today. it was in fact the first lady who sponsored her parents for their green card. to be clear, and you made clear, this is not out of the ordinary, a way many americans bring their family members to this country. the first lady's parents are from slovenia. we've seen them around washington, d.c., and sometimes travel with the president and first lady. up until this point we didn't have clarity how they had gotten their green cards, turns out the first lady took advantage of the family migration card like so many others do so they could settle down. >> all in contrast from the president's personal position. has the white house had anything to say about the disconnect? >> it's incredibly noteworthy melania did this for her parents and a practice her husband does not like. we heard president trump, you just played a great clip there, rail against the family migration policy many many times, refers to it as chain migration. that particular part of family visa is a category trump wants to get rid of all together because he says they are harmful to this country. the first lady's office is not commenting on any of this, however, we do have a statement from victor and his wife's immigration lawyer, he told me earlier today, i can't comment on the president's politics when it comes to my clients but i have stood up against the president's emigration policies personally. you're seeing a disconnect between the president's policy views and the fact his wife has taken advantage of that policy for her parents. >> a source close to the white house tells cnn president trump is scheduled to have dinner with his personal attorney, rudy guiliani and going back and forth whether the president will agree to be interviewed by president counsel, pros and cons on that ahead. saving on this! saving on this! saving in here. rewarded! learn more at theexplorercard.com so what do you guys want? 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>> i can't. the strategy has been for guiliani to make mueller an offer he can't accept to paraphrase the godfather. trump says he wants to testify. all his lawyers are unanimous saying he couldn't testify. the end result making mueller an offer he can't accept, mueller to be the one that turns down the deal. trump says, i wanted to talk to mueller. it was mueller's fault and he didn't accept a reasonable offer from my lawyers and we're off to subpoena land. >> isn't the easiest way to avoid the perjury trap is to tell the truth? >> that is correct. part of the issue is whether or not the president really intends to testify, or be interviewed voluntarily by the special counsel's office. if he doesn't really want to be interviewed, which the longer this has dragged out, it appears to be, then the strategy that alan just described, i think is accurate, they're really just playing game, more for pr purposes, to make it appear that he wants to be cooperative, when, really, what they want is just to drag it out and force the special counsel to issue a subpoena. the allegation that it is a perjury trap really is silly because if the president had a story that we wanted to tell there would be no risk of per injuring himself. >> professor, let me ask you about the perjury. >> sure. >> if the president has, as he insists nothing to hide and done nothing wrong, why all this brinksmanship. it's not the american public's fault that the president had a disconnect from the truth. >> first of all, no lawyer ever puts the interest of the united states above the interests of his country. there was a bear rhys ster in 1815 who said, i have to put the interests of my client over the interests of the country. a lot of other people put the interests of the country first. first, let me explain why every lawyer you ask, every defense lawyer would give you the same answer he would be walking into a perjury trap. let's assume he was asked one question, did you know about the meeting in the trump tower with your son? let's assume he honestly didn't know and answers that honestly, no, i didn't know. one witness says he did know. that witness is cohen. cohen may be lying. at that point, the perjury trap has been sprung and mueller could theoretically charge him with perjury and not telling the truth. you never advise a client to answer truthfully if there is another person who will answer differently and that person will be believed by the prosecutor. that's what we call a perjury trap. >> does that seem viable? first, you're referencing michael cohen who said there were other people present in the room. if there's not actual documentation, why would the prosecution decide to side with michael cohen who has lied about other stuff? >> we don't know whether michael cohen has been interviewed in any way. using michael cohen as an example doesn't comport with using someone interviewed under oath or in front of investigative agents or before the grand jury. the bigger point is that if the president had a story he wanted to tell, then they would want to submit to a voluntary interview. i agree, most criminal defendants or criminal subjects, i should say, would not want to be interviewed voluntarily. they would be interviewed pursuant to a subpoena or requested to come in before the grand jury. i think the president's legal advice is consistent with what most subjects of an investigation would do. the difference is that he's the president of the united states and publicly his team has said that there is no reason that he should not be able to tell his side of the story. >> professor dershowitz, for guiliani to say if this isn't over by december 1st, this would be in violation of the rules. there actually isn't a rule. customary but not codified anyone. do you agree the former u.s. attorney is over his skis about this? >> no, i don't think so. one thing mueller doesn't want to become is comey and doesn't want to be accused of influencing the election. i'm told mueller was furious at comey when comey did what he did before the election last time, even though they're close friends. to the last thing he wants to do is be accused of having any influence on the midterms. >> thanks so much. i want to give you a quick update on a story we've been following, 11 months after hurricane maria death toll was 64, they're admitting it may be closer to 1400. cnn had to sue the government to get the statistics. according to researchers who took part in a study by harvard and other schools the puerto rican government was less than helpful providing access to their stats. documents show 1,027 more deaths than normal occurred after the storm ended in 2017. officials say that's only an estimate and haven't officially updated the death toll. the study of harvard and others had shown the deaths could be higher than the 1400 figure and the president praised the response to hurricane maria. the national park service said it received a permit nor the group, called unite the right, to stage a rally across the street from the white house. it comes a year after a rally left one counter-protester dead. the speakers will include the organizer of that rally along with the grand wizard, kkk, david duke, who is the subject of spike lee's new movie about an african-american infiltrating the kkk, a true story. be right back. oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (vo) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? 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(harmonica interrupts) everytime. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. ♪now i'm gonna tell my momma♪ ♪that i'm a traveller ♪i'm gonna follow the sun♪ ♪now i'm gonna tell my momma ♪that i'm a traveller transitions™ light under control™ charlottesville, virginia, when violence broke out and a protester was mowed down by someone driving a car. and spike lee's amazing new movie "black klansman" who infiltrated the kkk. and spike lee is on the cover of "time" magazine. that's your first cover on "time" magazine? >> ever. >> i would have expected three or four by now. >> no. >> i have to ask you about your t-shirt. god protect robert mueller. did you make that yourself? >> no. but -- there's a history in this country, so i just hope god puts his hands on him and he gets to do what he has to do, to the end. >> i want to ask you about this film. i went to see it a couple of months ago actually. it's a period film in the '70s. have you ever heard of this story before? >> no. >> explain. >> i was called out of the blue sky, i have a project for you. what is it? in six words, he pitched it, black man ill filtrates kkk. >> were you in? >> i'm in. is it true? it's true. automatically i thought the great david chappell. >> very briefly, this is an african-american police officers, the first on this police force. >> colorado springs. >> he sees an ad for the kkk in the newspaper, calls them up and starts talking to them. >> no. he left a message. >> he left a message. >> he left his name. they call him back. so the premise is that he needs a white -- to play him in person. that's adam driver. >> right. >> it's set in the '70s. >> '70s. >> i mean, it's so evocative of that time. it is so timely today. >> yes. that's the thing that blows you away when you're sitting there watching this. >> that was the plan. with my co-writer, we did not want this to just be a history lesson, even though it took place in the '70s, we still wanted it contemporary. a lot of stuff said way before the '70s saying them and you hear them today and the lexicon of politics and guys in office. >> it's one of the things so startling about the film is we like to think about we've evolved and things change, and, you know, i mean, this doesn't go away. the questions have raised the divisions, it doesn't go away. >> well, i've been on this show many years talking about the same thing. the thing -- i know i might be giving a spoiler alert. i was in mueller's vineyard august 12th. i watched what i feel is homegrown american red, white and blue terrorism. >> you're talking about last year at charlottesville? >> august 12th. and my house is at the 18th hole. i knew they were coming because i saw the secret service in the trees at 18 holes. he's on the golf course, turns his phone off and just relaxed. when i told him he hadn't heard about it. >> you went up to him and told him? >> he hadn't heard about it. >> what did you say to him? >> i don't remember exactly. i don't want to give the whole thing, i want to tell this -- i thought he heard, he didn't hear about it. the film "black panthers" opening on the one year anniversary of charlottesville. >> that was intentional? that was important to you? >> very much so. what happened there -- here's the thing for me, the president of the united states had a chance to denounce hate. hate groups. the whole world saw what happened and he didn't do it. >> there's good people on both sides. that friday night -- the tiki torch rally, to go to the robert e. lee statute. these were young white males, hundreds of them, this is in the video, chanting, jews will not replace us, blood and soil will not be the slogan. they're not wearing masks. >> left and right. >> does it -- did it surprise even you? you focused on -- you've done so many films about race and race in america, did that even surprise you, though, how blatant it was? >> no. you know why? because this guy we've got in the white house is not even a dog whistle, it's a bullhorn. then, also, anderson, we've seen a rise to the right. it's not just america, it's worldwide. this thing has happened worldwide. >> one of the things lebron james said in that interview with don lemon the other night, he believes the president has created an environment people who hold toxic racist views feel more empowered to give voice to them. >> they have the green light from the white house. >> you think it filters down from the top that way. the top down. all mexicans are rapists. we can be here three hours with the hateful statements he said. >> what do you hope people get from the film? >> i'm very leery of providing takeaways. i respect the audience intelligence too much. i think if we just look at this film and the ending, we've got to do better. we've got to do better. >> i'm not going to say what the ending of the film is. >> ends in charlottesville. >> the theater i was watching it in, you could have heard a pin drop afterward, the impact. >> that's one of the things we want to do, connect the past to the present. i'd like to say at this time god bless susan, who is coming up on the anniversary of the loss of her daughter again, and a terrible act of american terrorism. she no longer has a daughter because of that. >> we'll be talking to her tomorrow. you have kids. do you have these conversations? >> oh, yes, we do. because i had these conversations with my parents. one of my most -- it's not a fond memory, but april 1968, in front of my stoop in brooklyn, new york, i hear a woman screaming. screaming at the top of her lungs. and then, as the voice gets closer, that sounds like my mother. and then, as she got closer, she was screaming, they murdered dr. king, they murdered dr. king. so, i'm 61. so i was -- that was a sweet spot. i was young enough to see everything and not old enough to go to vietnam. it was all the turbulence of '60s and '70s, right there in brooklyn, taking it all in. >> would you want to sit down with donald trump? >> no. >> have a conversation? >> i don't use his name either. agent orange. got it from busta rhymes, shout-out to brooklyn, busta. >> do you consider him your president? >> no. might be putin. >> so what -- what -- >> you look kind of shook, anderson. >> no -- i find the movie -- i was shaken by the film. >> thank you very much. when i thought of it as a period piece, oh, it's a look back. it's so -- there's such relevant things -- >> that's what people responded to, it's not just a history lesson, even though it takes place in the '70s, it's also the world we live in, the >> spike lee, it's always good to talk to you. appreciate it. i want to check in with chris and see what he's working on for "cuomo prime time" at the top of the hour. >> listening to you is what i'm doing, talking to spike. i think you do the right thing when you confront the conversations, anderson. they're not easy to have. obviously they're not even easy for us to have sometimes. but we have to talk about what is real in this country because we're seeing what happens when you don't. it winds up getting harnessed and weaponized anyway. the same issues wind up getting used. the film is important. the anniversary coming up is important. and god forbid that this stupid idea of having yet another set of unify the -- whatever they're called with these demonstrations they want to have to mark this anniversary. we'll be watching it. we're going to be talking about it tonight as well. and we're going to be testing power tonight. everybody's talking about kris kobach, the secretary of state of kansas. trump made that governor's primary for the gop into an entire different echelon of election by getting involved. these on our show tonight, and he's got a lot for us to ask him about. so we'll have the show with him tonight. we're also going to take to take you through the reality of what's going on in puerto rico and what the president owes the people there. >> nine minutes from now. more than 20 lawmakers are asking the president to immediately declare a disaster in california because of wildfires burning throughout the state. i'll speak to congressman mike thompson about that next. dodged the law. ed bood even when they brought you in, they could never hold you down. when i built my family tree and found you, i found my sense of adventure. i set off on a new life, a million miles away. i'm heidi choiniere, and this is my ancestry story. now with over 10 billion historical records, discover your story. get started for free at ancestry.com discover your story. is this at&t innovations? 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>> i've been in contact with fema. we've been in contact with the white house. it's running its course. but the president could do a world of good by stepping it up and making the declaration now. there's a lot of lives depending upon this. it would make life much easier in these devastated areas. and folks really need the security of knowing that their federal government's with them. >> you know, one of the things the president has said about this, and i'm wondering how concerned, if you were concerned, about what the president tweeted several days ago, that it was a lack of water is to blame for the difficulty in containing the fires because every fire official i've talked to said that's simply not the case. it's not a problem of water. >> well, we have the water that we need, and i'd really like the president and everybody else to stop tweeting and focus on the disaster at hand. folks need help. people need help. our communities need help. and that's what we should be focusing on. >> in terms of your own district, constituents, how are they doing tonight? >> well, they're doing a little better. people are repopulating their homes. but we still have a fire that is not contained. it won't be contained for another month. it's burning, and we have red flag warnings again tonight. and this could exacerbate the situation. and today we had another fire break out in another part of my district in napa. so this is an ongoing threat. the fuel load is very, very heavy. resources are stretched. we've got so many firefighters, so many aircraft and pieces of equipment out there. we really can't -- we really can't sustain a lot of this. we need the help from the federal government. the people that i represent want to know that their federal government is with them and will be with them through this terrible time. >> certainly our thoughts and prayers are with not only everybody affected by this fire but all the men and women on the fire line who are working around the clock. i know your son is a firefighter who could be drawn up to deliver mutual aid if necessary. i mean the firefighters just don't get enough credit, and it's extraordinary what they're doing, just working around the clock. so we appreciate you being on, congressman thompson. thank you so much.

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A roundtable ensemble discusses and debates the day's news. work. one of the reasons is because the messaging by the democrats and the unions was really good. they had one of these ads that showed workers get paid an average of $8 an hour compared to -- this is what ceos get. it was effective messaging. some of the things we talk about up here in new york, big picture -- we are not releasing what's happening on the ground and some of these places. >> jesse: that is right. also talking about branding. ben jealous, very upset. he's running for governor in maryland. former naacp director. he was asked about being branded a socialist for his republican opponent, and this is how he responded. >> not to put too fine a point on it, but do you identify with the term socialist? >> are you [bleep] kidding? >> jesse: while. >> greg: i think i would vote for him just for that response. it was so natural. i would say to your point, ivy league educated, but his policies on immigration are so neanderthal that i don't know how he can possibly win and i don't know why the president chose him. probably because of loyalty because kris kobach came in and helped him craft's draconian immigration policy. >> greg: why do you have to pick on the neanderthals? >> jesse: we have some sound from danny boy, as president trump likes to call him. i guess almost eked out a victory in ohio 12. this is what he had to say about nancy pelosi, candace. >> will you vote for nancy pelosi to be your speaker of the house? >> no, i won't. we really need the leadership. because what we see in washington, as was demonstrated last night, the same old politics aren't working. >> jesse: they are running candidates in certain places, candace, that are trying to distance themselves from nancy pelosi. >> candace: that is a smart move on and that's why i think he had such a successful campaign. on the right, we had to be careful in ohio. it's been a close call. we don't know what's going to come of it. the smartest thing you can do is distance yourself from the extremists. distance yourself from nancy pelosi, elizabeth warren, maxine waters, who is calling for violence. that's the only way they are going to be able to salvage the democrat party. look, the thing i was watching last night was the democratic socialists. i was happy to see that it crashed and burned in the core of the candidates that alexandria ocasio-cortez endorsed, nothing happened. that was a compelling story. is that where we are going to g go? 100 million deaths to the last 100 years to socialism. it turns out, america, good news. most of america understands basic math and no, everything cannot be free. >> geraldo: i like the platform. i have to say i love $15 an hour minimum wage. why not? how do you live with eight bucks that's just to get more people on the latter. student debt. we are giving too many loans out. we are making it easy to go to college. now we have these people. college, let's face it, is overrated. it really is. it's expensive. and it's overrated. now it's becoming -- you have all these kids that are basically enslaved to campuses. it's nuts. i am a neurotic. i plan for the worst. i don't see any encouraging news for republicans. i don't come out of what happened last night. i think if you want to win, prepare to lose. that will make you fight harder. >> dana: part of it is the funding. steve stivers, chair of the national republican committee, says we can't do this for all of you. they pulled out all the stops. >> jesse: they put 4 million in that a while race. >> dana: at least. that doesn't count independent expenditures. not to mention the travel and time of pence and president trump. if the president is going to come campaign for you, it's a huge investment. you have to figure out how much time as they actually have to be going and doing rallies everywhere for you. you've got to do your work. you've got to figure out a way not to be outspent by the democrats. >> jesse: let's say things don't go as well as the president thinks they're going to go. there's no red wave and maybe the democrats have a one or two vote margin in the house. if he's out there campaigning 6 to 7 days a week and he doesn't keep the house, how will he frame the issue? how will he explain what happened? >> geraldo: before he does the explaining, the problem with the republicans losing the house of representatives is that they will move immediately to try to piece the president of the united states. i believe that. even though i am very progressive. i've invested in this president. i want him to survive and i hate the idea they're going to short-circuit his term or attempt to. it's going to be a gigantic distraction from real problems. >> greg: it's also going to create massive unrest in america. 66 million people, knowing that you are stealing elections because you didn't like the results. >> dana: there is another thing. let's say they don't move for impeachment, as pelosi has said they won't. there is another road for president trump and it is something you'd be very good at, which is to say i did all he could. the media and the lame republicans who couldn't raise enough money and campaign well, they lost. but i can get things done with these guys. i'm a dealmaker. let's do infrastructure week. let's finally get it done. there's another way. bill clinton did that in 1994. his reelection was quite good. if what you really care about is president trump getting reelected in 2020, losing the house is not the worst thing that could happen to you. >> jesse: and anti-trump liberal mayor gets a free pass after attacking the press. greg calls out the hypocrisy next. alice is living with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of her body. she's also taking prescription ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor, which is for postmenopausal women with hormone receptor-positive her2- metastatic breast cancer as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole was significantly more effective at delaying disease progression versus letrozole. patients taking ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. before taking ibrance, tell your doctor if you have fever, chills, or other signs of infection, liver or kidney problems, are pregnant, breastfeeding, or plan to become pregnant. common side effects include low red blood cell and low platelet counts, infections, tiredness, nausea, sore mouth, abnormalities in liver blood tests, diarrhea, hair thinning or loss, vomiting, rash, and loss of appetite. alice calls it her new normal because a lot has changed, but a lot hasn't. ask your doctor about ibrance. the #1 prescribed fda-approved oral combination treatment for hr+/her2- mbc. prepare for your demise, do your worst, doctor. i will. but first, a little presentation. hijacking earth's geothermal energy supply. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. his occult >> greg: new york city miller bill de blasio spoke to the guardian, a crazy left british newspaper. it's basically no different than de blasio talking to himself. crazy stuff comes out of his mouth and people with butterfly nets make a circle because the loonie bin might be the only place left for de blasio and his make-believe politics. that was a lot. he told the guardian if you could remove news corp. from the last 25 years of american history, we would be a more unified country. would not be suffering a lot of the negativity and divisiveness we're going through right now. we went to the mainstream media for comment on this blatant attack on the press. [crickets chirping] only on "the five," ladies and gentlemen, bill de blasio, when was the last time you gave this towering piece of politics a thought. he thinks america would be better off without us? what he is really saying is he would be better off without us. but he's wrong. even without america's most-watched news channel making fun of him, other progressive still shun him. he has 7 feet of political invisibility. it should be easy to pretend de blasio's dumb ideas don't exist but if that were the case, millions of people would be better off. you can't beat leftism for burning humanity, and that's why they hate us. we point this out while doing our best ignore him. brian seltzer claims it's not about the media at all but i media empire. we get it. run along. okay. de blasio is the mayor, he's not the president. >> dana: but he wants to be the president. that's what i think this is all about. he is a term limited lame duck. this was right around the time when in iowa, democratic hopefuls started going trying to basically send out a signal. and attacking leaning publications is a way to do that. where did he learn that? president trump has been very effective with it. i don't know if it will work for de blasio. i assume not. i think he's wading into bigger fights. he wants to pick a fight with uber here in new york city. he needs some reason to get national coverage. >> greg: candace, double standard? they are talking about fox, not a big deal. everybody knows what fox is. it's not like cnn. >> candace: is not a serious question? this is what we are seeing all the time. we can do it, but you can't. the left loves this. they've been the usual silent at cnn this week. they were silent. but they spent all of last be crying about jim acosta in the "cnn sucks" chant, which they kind of do. it is par for the course. this is the number one network for the reason. nobody cares what de blasio thinks. >> greg: geraldo, i was going to ask you a question but i can tell you are about to talk. i can see it. >> geraldo: my fists clenched. >> candace: you know de blasio. one is >> geraldo: was always impressed me about de blasio is that for all his dominance of local politics, new york mayoral politics and local politics, he has zero national appeal. zero charisma. when you compare him to bloomberg or giuliani or ed koch before that. he's a giant guy and it he has zero appeal. he doesn't move the needle at all. i don't think he has any future in the democratic party. he really has it out for fox news. we have pressed parking. 48 years in the business. i've always had and why people he spit i always park in front of my shop. i worked at abc, nbc, i did talk shows, cvs. he took nypd parking away from fox news they still have it at nbc two blocks up. they still haven't cvs for box up but he took it away. >> greg: it's an outrage. geraldo lost his special parking place, america. jesse, have you lost any preferred parking? >> jesse: i need to know how to get those nypd place. segment go by without talking about the obvious degradation of the city? i have lived here seven years, almost eight years. in the last few come you can really see a decline. every day, you see it more. >> greg: the thing is, it's because nobody wrote to new york. 20% of the people vote. >> dana: uber didn't cause the homeless problem. >> candace: i was shocked to the other morning. there are so many homeless people. new york city was cleaner years ago. >> dana: people deserve to be treated better than that. >> greg: it is all geraldo's fault because of the deinstitutionalization. i am blaming you, geraldo. >> candace: not with that democrat policy. >> greg: you will get a better parking space. run as an independent. >> geraldo: john james should campaign as a democrat in michigan, even though he's a republican. he should be in detroit. he should be in flint. >> greg: why wouldn't you run as an independent? >> geraldo: because i don't want to. my time has passed. >> dana: that is not true. >> geraldo: i want to get in my hammock and eat putin. >> dana: your agents are crying. >> greg: crazy story out of new mexico. details next. hey there people eligible for medicare. aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company comes in. this type of plan helps pay some of what medicare doesn't. and these are the only plans to carry the aarp endorsement. that's because they meet their high standards of quality and service. wanna learn more? 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>> geraldo: the thing i think of, i think of my muslim friends and think about every time there is one of these cases. extremist muslims with air fifteens and compounds in planning school shootings. my dad, proud puerto rican, came here, and everything there was a big crime, he would hold his breath until the perpetrator was identified, hoping it wouldn't be a puerto rican. because it would disparage the whole community. i feel awful. i want to emphasize they had candidates running. one is going to be the first candidate of the congress in michigan and all that. in terms of the extremism, these are not jobs. narcissistic, paranoid, crazy militant people. i don't know how they existed that long in the new mexico desert before someone complained about them. this complaint, as i understand, it came from family services in georgia. it's a very disturbing, awful story. i am sorry about the 3-year-olds. i hope the others can get over the scars that these monsters inflicted. >> candace: my initial thought is not to defend the religion of muslims. it's a strange reaction we are seeing more and more, particularly on the left. to say that islam is a religion of peace. i think it's an important dialogue we need to have come especially in this country when we start to have conversations about bringing in refugees from regions of the world that are against the american culture. i understand he is from brooklyn. in general, we are talking about bringing refugees, we are talking about extremists. this guy obviously is extreme. i wouldn't do what you did and defend it. i hope there's a wider conversation because god forbid they did not stop this. what would be the consequence? how much is it being bred here and why and who is coming over here and teaching this sort of indoctrination? there's bigger questions that need to happen. terrible story. definitely following it and see what happens. >> dana: the idea of school shootings as a form of terror. we have covered a lot of school shootings on the show. there's always a question, was this terrorism related. often it turns out not to be the case. by the idea that school shootings are form of terrorism is an interesting one. >> greg: there are no silver lining to this other than the fact that it was stopped. but we are hearing fewer and fewer of these things happening. that to me, is encouraging. but i don't want to relax. i feel extremism will be a around as long as humanity is around. you are bound to have a few extremists. one person can inflict incredible damage. we always have to be cognizant and not be afraid if we do see something to say something and not go after people who actually do say something. and who might be wrong. i think that's what keeps people from reporting things, they see something, say something. but if they do something that they get in trouble. this case is an example that these mind-sets exist. >> dana: thankfully the authorities were able to save the kids. >> jesse: hats off to law enforcement. they saved countless lives. not only the children for potential victims of school shootings. i can't believe this guy is the son of an imam who was an unindicted coconspirator in the '93 world trade center bombing. how many unindicted coconspirators have there been? 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"i'm not going to denigrate my flag, and i'm going to stand for the national anthem. what is the top side? are you not going to stand up? this is our country, man." adding that he respects the players and coaching great 20 agrees. >> my dad was in the service. that's why he thought. he enlisted in world war ii to give us the choice, the freedom of choice to do what we think is best. these guys are not unpatriotic. they're not standing against our country. they are standing against -- kneeling against what is wrong in the country. >> geraldo: candace, what about that? what about coach tony dungy? >> candace: i was happy to see this. i am seeing more and more of this. nfl protesting is starting to stop them and we are seeing more players stand up and say they are not going to participate which means people are starting to think individually, which is what i preach and practice everything all day. the problem with these protests is obvious. it was built upon something that wasn't true. if you're going to stand up for something and you say it's police brutality and shootings, 2016, only 16 unarmed black men were shot and killed by police officers. the total is .0004% of the black community impacted by this. they are kneeling when you talk about welfare programs or absentee fathers from all the other problems. that's what i took issue with. why would you pick this issue? that's my problem. >> geraldo: what about freedom of speech and the fact that, as coach tony dungy said, the players have a right. they are not doing anything to disrespect the country. they are doing it to point out some of the problems candace seems to think are inflated. >> jesse: i think they have freedom of speech off the field, on twitter, if they want to come on gutfeld's show are espn or a podcast and they can say whatever they want. once you are wearing the uniform of the owner and you are standing there in the field, not your field. that's the company field. he can't do whatever you want. you can be sanctioned for that. you can be fined, told what to do. they regulate what we do here at fox news. i think it was the wrong thing. it backfired. they realize that. kaepernick has faded. the tide is turning. the cowboys player that came out, i thought that was strong. that is moving the needle. the debacle with the philadelphia eagles going to the white house changed a lot of people's minds. hopefully it's calmed down and we can have a nice, good nfl season. and the eagles can repeat. >> geraldo: the browns can't do any worse. they have baker mayfield. maybe a good future. i worry about president trump, dana, and this issue because -- and even the way he takes on -- when you call players names. i worry he doesn't use the same tone when he's criticizing white guys for doing white guy stuff. >> jesse: did you ever hear what he said about john mccain? >> dana: he doesn't have a problem going after people. >> geraldo: you don't think there's a problem? >> dana: i think people remember the insults more than they would remember the fact that there's a good economy or things like that. i think it's counterproductive for president trump and the players who are kneeling. at this point, no one's thinking, as candace was saying, it's not about the original idea for the protest. shannon sharpe took a lot of a bridge of what jim brown said. one of the things he wrote was that movements are team efforts, and the players doing the student asked jim to be part of it. said he's disappointed in him and -- >> geraldo: shannon sharpe is disappointed? >> dana: says i believe you are doing activism for pay. it has exacerbated within the black community. i like the football season. i don't know a lot about it but i enjoy the culture around it. i hear that the broncos have a good new quarterback. >> geraldo: pretty good. are you a big football fan? >> greg: i used to play pro ball in the '70s. >> geraldo: you were the ball. >> greg: good one. pulling out on this topic and why something like this in general is refreshing, it's why old guys are refreshing. they remind you of an old-school mentality that seems to be fading. >> geraldo: are you talking about me? >> greg: jim brown commits like this kind of -- when he is talking, your time traveling to another era where men were stoic and laconic. there was less navel-gazing and emotive analysis that you see. we put a lot of importance on being well-spoken, but there is a certain masculine minimalism from the boss boss to be 70s in '60s. guys just did stuff. they didn't say stuff. that's the difference between brown and the modern-day adult. he -- you just stand up. just stand up. that's how old guys think. we are missing that. >> candace: they were men. that's what's changed. men were men back then. >> geraldo: i hate the fact that politics has infected sports. >> greg: i hate how it has infected "the five." >> geraldo: find out what sparked a barbell blowout at the gym. that's next. not so cute when they're angry. and we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ why people everywhere are upgrading their water filter to zerowater. start with water that has a lot of dissolved solids. pour it through brita's two-stage filter. dissolved solids remain? 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i'll speak with congressman of the armed services committee. and our correspondents and specialists are all standing by with full coverage. let's begin with jim acosta covering the president in new jersey. the president still hasn't made up his mind apparently about talking to mueller. what is the latest? >> reporter: that's right. it doesn't sound like it. he just wrapped up a round table discussion on the issue of prison reform over at his golf club in new jersey. he didn't take questions from reporters about subjects like the mueller investigation. so what we have now here is the latest reality tv cliff hanger from president trump. the president is keeping the country in response. will he or won't he sit down with robert mueller in the russia investigation? it's the question of the moment for president trump. the president isn't signaling to reporters which way he is leaning on whether to tell what he knows about the russia probe to special counsel robert mueller. instead he is letting the response build tweeting this is an illegally brought rigged witch hunt. stay tuned. >> i think the tweets are ad nauseam. he obviously likes to suck all the oxygen out of the room. >> reporter: rudy giuliani says an answer to the mueller question is coming soon but he is dropping hints that the legal team is worried a trap is being set. >> he knows the answers to every question that he wants to ask. he is going to ask them. did you tell comey to go easy on flynn? the president will say no i didn't. why do you want to get him under oath? you want to trap him into perjury. we are not going to let you do that. >> reporter: giuliani told fox mueller shouldn't -- to protect the president. >> it's like a classic catch 22 situation where we are -- the process is such a tough spot. we have to keep the majority. if we do not keep the majority all of this goes away. >> reporter: cnn has learned the president is expected to have dinner with his outside attorney rudy giuliani at his golf club later on this evening, another sign the trump legal team is closing in on a decision whether to give mueller one of the final pieces he needs. it seems the president and his legal team are trying to have it both ways both complaining that the investigation is taking too long. one thing he needs to wrap up the investigation is an A look at breaking news, politics and reports from around the world. >> thanks very much helping us better appreciate what is going on. let's get more from a member of the armed services committee. do you think it is the job of lawmakers, members of the house of representatives to, quote, protect presidents from their own party? that's the suggestion that we heard from devon nunez. >> absolutely not. when we swore our oath it was not to protect the president. it was rather to protect america, the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. nowhere did it say protect the president. that is not our job. we are equal and opposite an opposing branch of government. our job is to make sure that we are protecting america from enemies within and without. that is not to say the president is an enemy. it is simply to say that is not our job. we do have some very, very serious issues. law, hacking into and stealing information not only from the democratic national committee, but also from the democratic congressional campaign committee as well as john podesta. those are crimes that russians have been indicted for taking part in. >> let's turn to rudy giuliani's latest comments to our own dana bash. he says he doesn't mind dragging out this russia investigation because it might actually help fire up the republican base before the mid term elections in november. is the president's legal team negotiating in good or bad faith? >> bad faith. rudy giuliani throughout this entire process that he has come back as the personal attorney to the president has been dissimilating, changing his story every other day and putting up false flags for one thing or another. frankly, i don't believe for a moment that he is telling the truth about anything that he says. he is about as disreputable as the president when it comes to truth telling. >> should robert mueller take the timing of the mid term elections into consideration as far as his decisions are concerned in the coming weeks? >> we have already seen what happens when the fbi tries to play it politically. that happened in the hillary campaign and it was a major problem for her campaign when mr. comey tried to take into account the political import of what was going on with regard to the investigation of her e-mails and her computer systems. the result of that was a very bad thing. the answer to your question is no, he should not play politics. he should be straight up and down on the issue of the investigation and let it go where it may go. would it influence the election? perhaps it would. his job is to investigate what happened. cephallet cephallet's -- let's turn to the devastating wildfires. give us the latest on efforts to contain the blazes and how the people of your district are coping with this disaster. >> first of all, the largest fire which is in my district, the ranch fire together with the adjacent fire is huge. when they get to be that big we do not have enough equipment and personnel to surround that fire. so it continues to burn into the federal forest and into area fortunately that is not much habitation. there are few people living in that area. about 115 homes presently burned in those fires. they are just two of the many, many fires that are now burning in california. the carr fire has about 1,000 homes, seven deaths already there. we are short of personnel and equipment. fortunately the mutual aid coming from other states and from australia and new zealand much appreciated, much needed. we do need a presidential disaster declaration for the ranch in river fire. you can merge that with the fires in carr and down in ferguson in the yosemite area. we are under attack in california. when the president says the problem is we are letting water flow out to the ocean, that is just foolishness. let's just say it is foolish. what we do need is federal assistance in the presidential disaster declaration and we also need over time to manage our wild lands, our forests better than we have in the past. that will take federal money. so we will need that help from the president, as well. >> have you been in contact with the white house to try to get a clear answer on exactly what the president means, what he is proposing when he says your environmental laws in california are preventing water from being used by the firefighters to end this? >> i wouldn't try to understand what the president is thinking. it looked to me like he wasn't thinking. the president really ought to ask a few people what is going on before he starts his finger on his tweet. the reality is it was just foolishness. the reality is we need federal help and water policy in california. that is one thing they can help with. in the area where the fire is burning we must build an offstream storage reservoir. we need federal help on that. specifically we need $35 million right now so that the bureau of reclamation can do its part of the environmental and engineering work for that reservoir. if that reservoir was in place it wouldn't have much to do with the fire except you certainly wouldn't have it burning where the reservoir is. it would be of enormous help in providing environmental water for our fish and into the delta as well as for our communities and for our agriculture. so mr. president there is a water issue and there is something you can do, help us with the reservoir. >> thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> good luck to all the folks in your district elsewhere in california, as well. this is a true disaster. moscow is furious at new sanctions after a nerve agent attack in britain. will the kremlin retaliate? 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>> i think appropriate is in the rear view mirror for rudy giuliani. he is the personal attorney for the president of the united states which makes people think -- he has a very different role. his role is to protect donald trump exclusively and to playoff of the court of public opinion in a way that he recognizes could be a battle of impeachment and not in a court of law. for him to suggest that he has some ability to have leverage over the special counsel over a probe into collusion between a foreign government 90 days out from a mid term election when we are aware that there are further evidence and further attempts by russia to infiltrate is really inappropriate, arrogant and overly ambitious. >> does he have a point that this will rile up the republican base, giuliani, going into the mid terms? >> yes, he is right but it won't rile up necessarily the republican base but the 30% to 37% of people who are die hard donald trump supporters. when we talk about polling right now we see donald trump has an approval rating of 85, 88, 90 among republicans. that is different than having the same republicans willing to vote for a candidate that donald trump says is a good candidate. >> the president tweeted today once again as usual this is illegally brought rigged witch hunt run by people who are totally corrupt and/or corrup-- don't know what he is threatening. >> it is basically magnetic poetry at this point. it is same things in different terms. we don't know. the president does love these cliff hangers. he wants to keep people on his side and riled up before the election. and they are making these accusations like mueller is going to do this and that. it's the iceberg effect. we can see there is a lot more under the surface. >> if you take a step back and we don't know what robert mueller has. the person in the driver seat is robert mueller. it is not donald trump and it isn't rudy giuliani who keeps changing his story to try to spin his way out of this. >> clearly the president is deeply concerned about what is going on. he would like to know what mueller has, as well. let's turn to another sensitive issue, devon nunes told republican donors that the republicans have to keep the majority in the house of representatives in order to protect the president from mueller. listen to this. we have to keep all of these seats. we have to keep the majority. if we do not keep the majority all of this goes away. >> did he just say out loud something that members of congress are not supposed to say? >> yeah. absolutely. look, he went into that fundraiser for a political reason which is okay, completely legal. and he is making a political argument. also okay in the broad sense. but the fact of the matter is devon nunes, the argument he is making is members of congress don't work for the constituents that sent them. they work to protect the president. that's not democracy. that flies in the face complete ly with how the constitution is written. the congress isn't supposed to to whatever it takes to prop up the executive. and i get politically all the reasons why republicans want to have someone like donald trump in there, a lot of policy issues, fine. but to articulate it the way he did as if he and other republicans are the president's protector is really, really not okay. >> the thing that can hurt them in certain districts where they are looking at the republican agenda of voters saying i like that. i like what you are doing. their job is just to protect the president that undermineathize republicundermineathize -- under mines the republicans in the districts struggling to survive. >> and the memo and the probe that said they were investigating the matter as collusion on the parallel investigation along with robert mueller. so to have this be the incentive, not only for him to articulate it and voice it calls into question the basis of the memo and justifies the credibility of the other side saying you were never about trying to help the american people, just protecting one person. >> congress is supposed to be a co-equal branch of government and is not supposed to be part of the executive branch. they have a separate oversight role that they are supposed to engage in. >> as our colleagues are saying here, the investigators are not supposed to be sidled up with the investigates. are we surprised? he went down to the white house to talk to him about what was being investigated on capitol hill. there will be winners and losers in history when we look back on this. it's sad to say i think devon nunes will be a loser in this. there is more news we are following. an alarming claim by a united states senator that russians already have penetrated the states elections systems. are other states at risk? and the alzheimer's association is going to make it happen by funding scientific breakthroughs, advancing public policy, and providing local support to those living with the disease and their caregivers. but we won't get there without you. join the fight with the alzheimer's association. deporting immigrants while fighting for the right to stay here in the united states, an order that means two are being brought back to the united states. tell us more, laura. >> reporter: a dramatic scene unfolding today in the case of a mother and her young daughter from elsal vudoor wvadoelsalvad it all started in federal court here in washington, d.c. when the aclu was trying to fight the deportation order and they found out that the family was already gone on a plane back, something which apparently came as a surprise to the justice department as well as to the court. he ordered the family immediately returned to the u.s. we are trying to find out why the family is at the moment. officials told us that the family would not get off that plane but they were certainly sent scrambling. and just a short time ago i was told that the plane is now in route back to houston, texas and should be landing shortly if it has not already. clearly an extraordinary turn of events reaching almost to the level of contempt where judge sullivan threatened the attorney general jeff sessions if they did not comply with his order. >> the president and supporters are not going to be happy about this. we will continue to follow the story. thanks for the update at the justice department. new concerns about elections after u.s. senator's alarming claim that the russians already penetrated some voting systems here in the united states. also ahead a live update on the california wild fires which are threatening more homes right now. when it comes to strong bones, are you on the right path? 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why wait? ask your doctor about prolia. russian operatives have penetrated the voting systems of some florida counties. brian todd is working the story for us. how significant is this threat not just in florida but elsewhere? >> we're told this threat is very significant. cyber security experts have given us a disturbing picture of just how easy it is for russian hackers to get into voting systems. less than 90 days from the midterms, an ominous warning from an influential senator who says russian hackers have successfully breached florida's voter registration systems. bill nelson spoke to the tampa bay times. >> they have already penetrated certain counties in the state and they now have free rein to move about. >> reporter: when cnn asked senator nelson for specifics about what the russians had c e done, he didn't elaborate, saying that's classified. the florida department of state and the department of home hand security say they've seen no evidence to support nelson's claims. u.s. intelligence officials recently said the russians don't appear to be as aggressive as they were in 2016. >> relative to what we have seen for the midterm elections, it is not the kind of robust campaign that we assessed in 2016 election. >> reporter: still, dan coats says the warning lights are blinking red on america's digital infrastructure. how could russian hackers get into florida's voter registration system? >> it's using a phishing e-mail. this piece of malware would do things like record passwords and user names to log into the voter registration system and then they would be able to use those credentials as their own. >> reporter: then experts say they can inflict chaos at the polls. what kind of damage can they do? >> they can effect voter rolls and they can insert people, they can modify, they can deplelete, they can change information and make it more difficult for voters who come in and actually cast ballots. >> reporter: something senator nelson says he's worried about. >> you can imagine the chaos that would occur on election day when the voters get to the polls and they say, i'm sorry, mr. smith, you're not registered. >> reporter: cyber security experts say some of those problems can be worked out at the polls, but the russian hackers could still create chaos by planting doubt in the minds of american voters. >> certainly a big part of elections is how we trust the election process. and if they're able to dedprad that tru -- degrade that trust, that can affect things like voter turnout. >> can russian hackers affect the vote counts? experts say that's tougher to do because offend protections in place and paper ballots. state election officials in florida tell cnn they're taking this threat seriously. >> you're also hearing in a recent investigation florida didn't fare very well when it comes to election security. >> that's right. the center for american progress investigated all 50 states for election security. that firm gave florida a grade of f. the center said that florida officials didn't give them enough information on what they were doing to prevent and detect hacking and that their auditing systems to determine whether the votes were accurate aren't good enough. >> thank you very much. coming up, while his lawyers work to thwart an interview with robert mueller, the president delivers at very another very at about the russia investigation. what's he threatening? liberty mutual saved us almost $800 i'm a small business, but i have... big dreams... and big plans. so how do i make the efforts of 8 employees... feel like 50? 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Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. converts, people who voted for him but didn't like him, however since formed than those who liked him in 2016 and have "cooled." despite the near daily barrage of negative coverage about mueller, tariffs, immigration, his approval ratings have remain pretty consistent. they have even improved with his rural base despite the stories were told about farmers who would turn on him over his aggressive trade policies. >> in 19 farm states surveyed for cnbc, ten states sought president trump rural approval rating improved between may and the end of july. seven stay the same and one, idaho, saw a decline. >> i am a big believer if you are in a bad deal, a lease, an agreement with the business partner, you owe it to yourself to step up and try to make it better for both parties. for sure it needs to be better for yourself. might not seem as charming when it seems like he's fighting everyone at once. they want things to calm down a little bit. for president trump, the message is simple. be the happy warrior we see at a lot of these rallies touting the economic resurgence. pat yourself on the back a little. the renaissance and manufacturing and talk about how you want the economy to benefit all people, forgotten americans of all backgrounds, races, ethnicities, like you did this afternoon. to get one of the single most important things we are doing is help former inmates creating jobs. we are upgrading so many jobs for former inmates. for the first time, they are getting a shot at it. our unemployment rate is so historically low. the economy is booming. businesses are hiring, and recruiting workers that were previously overlooked, they are being hired. it's a great feeling. it's a great thing we have all accomplished. >> laura: is an reform, job training, that's vital. it's a vital issue to this country. recidivism. we want to decrease it if we ca can. it's an initiative the president is trying to get to yes on and it might have the added benefit of helping with some of those discontented voters who are on the fence as well. finally, mr. president, don't ignore the right track reading at the top. as "the washington post" wrote ahead of the 2016 election, "the nation's mood is intrinsically important, providing a basic gauge of how americans think the country is doing and whether people are more optimistic or pessimistic than in the past. presidents can succeed or fail regardless of the public's mood, but the public's overall outlook sets the stage for political debate." sets the stage for political debate. that final line is most important for trump and republicans. use the data point. draft off the economic success. be positive about america's current economic standings. it's a great time to be an american. america, we have problems but my goodness, other than the early years of reagan, i can't think of a better economy. set the terms of the debate yourself. do not be defined by others. we are already on the right track, mr. president. all you need to do now is not let the wrong track get you sidetracked. and that is "the angle." joining us now with the reaction is garland nixon, a radio talk show host. matt schlapp, american conservative union chair, and candace owens, of turning point usa. garland. >> initially, and i predicted trump would win. i would say the republicans will have some losses. they will definitely have losses in the midterm because it is kind of like yelp reviews. the people who are happy tend to mellow out and the people who are really angry are the most motivated. the democrats are going to have an advantage as people who show up at the polls. >> laura: some of the trends in the last election, in the Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. midterm. if they do, the house could be lost. if it is lost, so much of the trump agenda stops. >> laura: the president addressed the issue of chicago and he talked about how it is so important that have good leadership, deliver results for people on the ground. should he go to chicago? >> absolutely. >> laura: tell us your thoughts. some republicans say it will be a disaster. he was going to go during the campaign and they had to call about because of protests. could he go, listen to the people in the ground in chicago come here what they have to say? >> now is absolutely the time frame to make an appearance in chicago. first and foremost, i want to thank you for this coverage of last weekend. you did so much coverage from chicago. i didn't see it across that works by saad on your show. such an important issue that is facing the black community. he should send the national guard to chicago. it's unbelievable, incompetence of putting that 71 people were shot over the weekend. they haven't caught anybody for these crimes. it's the perfect time. polling is up in the black community. the rasmussen poll two weeks ago said his support doubled since this time last year which means black people are paying attention to the results of this administration, not smudge the rhetoric of the left, accusing him of racism and sexism at every turn. now the time for him to appear in chicago. president, please do it. >> laura: we had obama do my brother's keeper initiative. we had al sharpton moved there temporarily. there weren't -- you had a murder rate declined but that's only after the really high average of the last few years. something has to be done in chicago. i completely agree with candace. let's talk about the democrats. it's not peachy. this was the new it girl for socialism, alexandria ocasio-cortez who said this yesterday when she was asked by chris cuomo about whether nancy pelosi is really the leader of the party or will be. >> do you recognize her as the leader? >> i think absolutely right now. she is the leader. leader pelosi hopefully will see she's the current leader of the party and i think the party absolutely does have its leadership in the house. we have our leadership in the senate as well. >> laura: i think she was more favorable to capitalism the other day and her comments. then to nancy pelosi. what's going on with this revulsion toward nancy pelosi? >> the democrats have been losing for the last eight years and it's not unreasonable to question the people of lead them to little big horn. >> laura: also got a lot done as speaker. they did obamacare. they push the big stimulus. >> the other issue with her is that the democratic party has understand that their millennial base, which will be the largest voting bloc in 2018 and 2020, they have a different concept. they weren't around for the soviet union. the word socialism, words like that. it doesn't mean anything to them. they're listening to policy. the democratic party needs to understand that because if they get the millennial boat out, they are in really good shape. if they continue doing what they are doing, and they don't engage the millennial boat and understand, they just beat them up and say -- >> the midterm isn't about millennials. republicans have faults, of course. the best thing republicans have going for them is when people see their dead center heart and soul of the democratic party and its radical and it's left and it's -- >> laura: they are going to shut down deportation. candace, this was anderson cooper with blankley. let's watch. >> would you want to sit down with donald trump and have a conversation? >> no. i don't use his name either. agent orange. >> do you consider him your president? >> no. might be prudent. >> laura: candace. >> here's what i will say about that network. what they do all the time is employed black athletes and black stars. we saw this with lebron james. it's a mechanism of control of the black community. they say i found some of your idols, people who are prominent in your community and they are saying they hate trump and they are hoping they're going to be able to drum up the heat. it hasn't been successful. they need to switch strategies altogether. as i said, it's not going to matter if they keep doing this. they can bring out any black person they want that's going to speak out against trump. the black community cares at this moment about results and we are getting the results that we have been begging for. we have seen them. black unemployment at an all-time low. there are jobs. spike lee, cnn, it makes sense but it's not coming i'm too concerned about. it's not going to impact the black vote. >> laura: i can't imagine what the left would do, what democrats would say if someone said something again to what he just said about president trump. he called him agent orange. he won't use his name. they went after that joe wilson from screaming "you lie" during the state of the union. they crucified joe wilson. agent orange? an athlete went on television and called him, he's not my president? you would have a follow-up. what about unemployment? what about the fact that democratic led cities are coming with crime and gang violence. what about the fact that his numbers among black people have gone up? they would hit him with these things if the shoe was on the other foot. you don't speak like that. i know you wouldn't speak like that. >> i understand. for eight years, i heard that. there was a big "not my president" kind of movement. >> laura: never would i never say that. i would never say that. someone as prominent as spike lee who was such a talented filmmaker. his wife was in my class at uva law school. >> i think what it reflects, it's not good for the democratic party. the democratic party, one angle is to get your people so angry to try to get them to show up. >> laura: what are they angry about? what are the democrats angry about except pelosi? >> they need to develop a platform that is attractive to the working class. they may have some success in 2018 with what they are doing because people are upset, but 2020 is a whole different story. if they don't get a platform together, then they are toast. >> laura: this is one of the two socialists approved candidates who ocasio-cortez endorsed who won the other night, michigan congressional candidate. let's watch. >> when you are elected formally in november, you will have a vote as part of the democratic caucus as to who will be the next leader, whether it be minority leader or speaker of the house. will you vote for nancy pelosi? >> probably not. that's my answer. no, probably not. >> laura: so the party moves kind of hard laugh. nancy pelosi is no conservative democrat. >> if they pick up a lot of seats, there is no question she's going to have competition. nancy pelosi is one of the most unpopular politicians we've seen in the modern age. it could be nancy pelosi or worse. >> laura: republicans clean house. republicans got tired of john boehner. they were tired of him, god bless him. he is lobbying for part now. they got tired of him and he's gone. so what if the democrats want to get rid of pelosi? it's probably smart. >> we are seeing a split in the democratic party. people like nancy pelosi, maxine waters, they are driven by heat and animosity for this president. people like alexandria ocasio-cortez, i don't think she is driven by hate. i think she believes this platform could work, that socialism could work. the hard left, they are driven by lack of understanding for mathematics and the utopian concept for the world might work. unfortunately, it's going to be problematic for them if they can figure out and get this party together, just the people that hate trump versus the people who don't understand math. it's going to be externally problematic for them heading into the midterms must i'm interested to see was going to take place. >> laura: candace, have you been attacked at breakfast lately? what were you eating, kansas? -- candace? >> i had chicken and waffles. it was a really good meal. the manager said i thought for a moment that outside there were vegan protesters. [laughter] >> laura: i think by the looks of the protesters, you could have taken most of them. no problem. great panel, guys. i love having you on. it sounds like common sense. permanently deploy more police in chicago and its most ravaged areas. that new pushes sparking a huge uproar in the windy city. details after this. >> laura: as violence flares in chicago, city officials and residents are locking horns over a solution about how to stop it. one chicago alderman, anthony beale from the far south side is leading the charge on what sounds like a common sense solution. permanently reassigning officers to the city's most gaining ravaged areas. but the proposal is generating huge blowback. why? over fears that it could generate a surge in crime in some of the safer districts of chicago. is this another excuse to avoid badly needed radical solutions to stop this carnage? joining us now to analyze is the cochair of project 21, along with anthony, a criminal defense attorney. either of you are with me in the studio. i wish you were here. let's start with you, anthony. something has to be done in chicago. the residents are crying out for solutions. this is one resident. we will play her. excuse me. this is a young man. one resident of a talking with charlie kirk. let's watch. >> taking care of certain parts of town as they should. they are taking care of downtown. they take care of the north sid side. south and west sides are left. >> laura: he said you take care of these rich areas basically. but our areas aren't getting the help. we have a lot of police being reassigned today through the weekend these bad areas. what about the idea of permanently reassigning officers to the worst of the worst areas? why is that controversial? >> well, i think it's controversial, laura, because what we have been a lot of high policed areas or areas that are police, particularly communities of african-american and hispanics, we have over policing where a lot of innocent people end up getting tagged or pulled aside or stopped unconstitutionally against their fourth minute right. i have represented gang members in l.a. i represented gang members who, and they have a whole community afraid of them. so what we don't need his police command, doubling the fear if it's not going to be strategically placed and constitutional provisions are not going to be there. there is nothing wrong with permanent policing, but it needs to be constitutional provisions to protect the 98% of the community that is not causing the trouble. >> laura: the problem is a small percentage of people are turning those areas upside down. the carnage over the weekend was unacceptable. horace, there's great concern in the black community about aggressive policing that turns innocent people into feeling like criminals. in these comments are heartfelt. they are made. you hear them over and over and over again. yet residents of the south and west sides of chicago, on camera over the last several days, saying we need help. there's two competing views. where you come down? >> these people are living literally in war zones. it is unbelievable that the conversation is being held that grandma can't go and get her prescription filled. her granddaughter can't get to school without a drive-by shooting. that job won't locate in those communities, perpetuating poverty because investors will not go where there is this elevated level of crime. what you need is a common sense idea, the same thing that happens when you are on the interstate, when the officer with his car prominently on the side of the road, all of all of a sudden, everybody slows down. even people who are law-abiding take notice. what we need to do is have an elevated presence of law enforcement in these communities. it doesn't need to be for a weekend. it doesn't need to be for a few weeks. it needs to be a year, two or three if necessary. that's the way that you can make it safer, and that's the way that this war zone mentality can go away. >> laura: this is what donald trump -- hold on. we are going to player sound bite from president trump. this was today addressing issues such as prison reform. they touchdown sentencing reform and chicago. let's watch. >> we must strengthen community bonds with law enforcement including cities like chicago that have been an absolute and total disaster. 63 incidents last weekend and 12 deaths. that's bad stuff happening. probably i guess you have to take from the leadership. it's called bad leadership. there is no reason in a million years that something like that should be happening in chicago. >> laura: anthony, he is obviously dinging rahm emanuel's leadership in chicago. given your background, do you think rahm emanuel has done a good job? >> no, i don't. i think rahm emanuel has done a horrible job. that's not really the point. i want to ask horace, does he really think with the statistics we have, where african-americans are pulled over more without reasonable cause or without probable cause or where they are arrested more often or where they are sentenced harsher. with all of these statistics, do you really want a permanent police force there that's not strategic and that's not following fourth amendment rules? what are you going to do to make sure those rules are set? that fourth amendment reasonable standard the founders. in their will be followed? i think it's very important. >> you can hide behind the fourth of them at all you want. here are the facts. black americans, particularly in chicago, are dying as a result of the failure of law enforcement to be welcomed in and to let them play the role they are capable of doing. here's what needs to happen. with the mayor needs to do, what the governor of the state needs to do, is create a joint task force where they immediately allow for the state law-enforcement officers to come in. they also need to work with the department of justice and they allow for new prosecution teams to come in. you absolutely are going to hav have -- >> okay. >> laura: the goal. the goal, hold on. >> here's the problem with that. >> laura: go ahead real quick. >> here's the problem with that. there's white people dying in appalachia, in kentucky. why aren't you so concerned about them? they are dying by numbers. i will tell you why. when the police come there, they are not going to be over policed. >> laura: anthony. hold on, hold on, hold on. anthony. anthony. anthony. hold on. anthony, we are concerned about all people here on this show. the chicago murder rate is high. it's higher than new york. it's higher than los angeles. it has to change. i think we all want that. we differ on how to get there, but we all wanted to change. we don't want people pulled over unnecessarily. we don't want people's constitutional rights violated. sometimes the police will pull someone over and it will be fair. i understand that happens, and it's terrible. if you can save lives this weekend and every weekend this summer and beyond with smarter policing, smarter community involvement, may be president trump can offer some solutions with other faith-based leaders, that's a good thing. i think we all have to get out of our corners and come together and get back to basics in all parts of the country where we are having problems. whether it's opioids, chicago, burlington, vermont, where they have a huge drug trade. we have to get together as a country and solve it. otherwise we're going to keep losing americans unnecessarily. anthony. >> yes, i agree with all that. i don't want the environment of police creating more criminals and incarcerating more people and they go back in the community and create more crime. >> those talking points are killing people. there is a small number of people in these communities that are creating a nightmarish existence. >> laura: guys. >> these people need to be pulled out of the community. >> laura: they need to be incarcerated. if not, we are going to see kids on bicycles killed again as we did last weekend. all right, guys, great segment. thank you. jeff sessions is taking on one of conservative speeches biggest enemies. we will tell you what it is when we come back. many in the media simply parroted that is a fact. they've used this designation as a weapon, and they have wielded it against conservative organizations, others than adf, who refused to accept their orthodoxy and choose instead to speak for their conscience. i wanted to come back here tonight partially because i wanted to say this. you are not a hate group. >> laura: joining us now with reaction, harmeet dhillon, an attorney and rnc committee woman for california, does a lot of civil-rights representation. along with joe, a civil rights attorney. great to see you both. in general, let's start with you. the southern poverty law center, cited by the mainstream media as an unbiased organization that's a national treasure because, you know, it points out the bad people. there are a lot of bad people. white nationalist, nazi groups, that type of person. but then they also label with the hate label people like ben carson, who was put on an extremist watch list. the israeli ambassador. they urge the israeli ambassador not to attend a dinner hosted by frank gaffney who has views on islamism and so forth. center for immigration studies done enormous research on immigration. of course the alliance defending freedom, a group i have spoken to before, that has litigated cases. most recently i think it's a wedding cake case of the supreme court involving the baker in the gay couple. what's going on here? if you disagree with the southern poverty law center, you are a hater? >> i wouldn't agree with the fact that they are unbiased. of course they are biased to their own position but that's what's so great about the first amendment. they are allowed to do that. the problem here is that the attorney general is using the office of the attorney general to suppress first amendment rights of these organizations in the name of religious freedom which is yet another constitutional right. that's a real problem because people look at the attorney general as an office that shouldn't -- that should instill confidence confidence e government allowing you to enjoy your constitutional rights. he's using one constitutional right against the other and basically starting political wildfires. >> laura: i think it is the opposite. i think he is saying religious freedom which is defended by the alliance defending freedom is a sacrosanct right. just for defending religious freedom, labeling someone as a hater and a hate group, that probably hurts their fund-raising. it probably hurts any corporate association they have. the label is meant to do monetize individuals, corporations pulling back and association. you see it on big tech, what they are doing with the suppression of conservative speech. this is a different way to do it. >> absolutely. i like my friend joe but he's upside down. what's been happening in the government is that the government has been using in partnering with southern poverty law center's list as a a to suppress speech. the fbi is continuing to partner with the national organization of women, southern poverty law center, naacp and other groups. splc is about as objective as antifa. they are far left organization and it's a disgrace that they are silencing speech. a couple years ago the family research council was shot up in d.c. by an attacker trying to kill people there because that group was on the splc list. in silicon valley, like you mentioned, the effect of this is that matching programs and corporations where corporations will say if you give money to a charity like alliance defending freedom, an outstanding christian first member law firm, they will not match it if the organization is on that list. on top of that, amazon will not match contributions in their smile program if the splc has put it on their hate list. who made these people, the soros funded in the far left organization the arbiter of what is far left speech in america and what is not. it's fine for them to have their viewpoint but it's also fine for us to fight back. it's not fine for the government to use their false list as a weapon to attack citizens. >> laura: they have a half a billion dollar budget. they get a lot of money from a lot of rich people. joe, my point is they would rather level people haters thene underlying subject. i live that every day. people don't want to debate you because they lose on the facts, so they want to label you thing things. that's not american. have the debate. have the debate vigorously. built label people haters can accept the ones who should be labeled haters like the white nationalist and the nazis. >> labeling people haters as part of their first amendment right. there are far right groups who have a have billion dollars as well. the real problem here is that the attorney general is using his office to pit one constitutional right against the other. where does that end? you could look at a lot of religions and make the claim that they have some sort of hate speech. we shouldn't be doing this. the attorney general should be uniting people here in the united states. but the reality is, he's a darling of the confederacy. >> laura: what does that mean? >> that is not fair. >> laura: that is poisonous. jo. >> if you look to his voting record, views that are anti-lgbt, anti-immigrant. of course, this is known stuff. >> laura: once again, if you believe in border enforcement and legal immigration reforms, you are anti-immigrant. people just rejected that in 2016. people rejected that in 2016. they don't like being called that because when you say that, that means the trump voters are anti-immigrant, and they are not. they are good people. they we are out of time. great segment. an atlanta school facing an uproar after trying to ditch the pledge of allegiance. we have some breaking news on the story. stay there. once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? 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(vo) go national. go like a pro. >> to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> laura: well, well. and atlantic charter school is reeling tonight after having announced it was going to ditch the pledge of allegiance from the mourning agenda. according to the atlanta neighborhood charter school, it made its decision due to the more and more students and staff choosing not to recite or stand during the pledge in recent years. the announcement sparked a storm of controversy come as you can imagine. tonight the school announced it is backtracking on its decision. book could be seen more schools across the country trying the same move? joining us and with reaction, university of maryland professor jason nichols, back by popular demand. along with writer and clinical analyst gary sheffield. jason, they are backtracking. saying that you can see that pledge or the school cheer or something. what does it say about us that this is a controversy? i am almost wanting to treat this as something hilarious. i think those kids reciting the pledge is so cute and i remember doing it as a kid. it wasn't controversial. it was what you do. why are we here? the gothic is controversial because they want to use the kids at the beginning of the morning and they feel this pledge, many kids opt out. when i was a kid, there were kids who were jehovah's witnesses and they didn't recite the pledge. sometimes they would go to a separate room. they really want to build community in they think this is getting in the way of that. i have to throw my dig in there and say that if you are against this and if you have a problem with this, then you probably have a problem with betsy devos and the secretary of education, trying to move more towards charter schools where we get to take public funding but make their own rules. >> laura: do you find, you find saying the pledge, requiring that, your view is that it's divisive? >> i'm not saying it's divisive but i do think there are many people who opt out. that is their first amendment rights. >> laura: they can do that. but they can say one nation, and they don't have to say under god. a lot of people don't say under god and they go on. i don't remember this being a controversy. they just say one nation. indivisible with liberty and justice. apparently people still do believe in liberty and justice for all orders that also controversial? because some people feel it's better than not -- >> i have to take issue with what you said about charter schools. if anything that shows how responsive charter schools are. imagine if a public school sector, public union backed teachers, when they try to make changes and there's public accountability, public outcry, nothing happens. so this is actually a case in point, showing the agility of charters. i applaud that. also i am pro-charter. seeing something that something that was a charter school that was antifreedom because to me it equals freedom. i think this speaks to the broader issue of trying to turn people against each other, trying to tear in our social fabric against things that represent the united states of america. and no one, including martin luther king jr., would sit here and tell you if you were alive today, he knew that our country wasn't perfect but we are working toward a more perfect union. when you try to shut down the pledge of allegiance, that's the opposite of building a union. >> laura: i think we should just do jumping jacks, push-ups. can we say drop and give me 50. wouldn't that be better? michelle obama is about let's move. i am all for that. i would like to use the exercise of the beginning of the day. i wanted your thoughts on this. this is something, i have teachers in my family. just recently retired public school. should cell phones be allowed or banned from school classrooms? countries like france are putting government mandated bands on cell phones for elementary and middle school students on their campuses. more u.s. cities like boise, idaho, are doing the exact opposite and lifting cell phone bands from their students. think of this was a tough one. >> laura: come on, professor. do you want them to be on their phone? it's annoying. >> it is totally annoying and it can be disruptive. at the same time, as we have seen with some of the school shootings and things have been going on from a cell phones have really helped in those situations to call the police in an emergency. i understand why they would want to have those cell phones there but also cell phones have encouraged a lot of bullying and fights and things like that. nobody -- >> laura: how about cheating? have you caught anybody cheating? >> i haven't. maybe i'm just bad at catching people. >> laura: how many times during average class to see student looking down at her phone checking facebook? >> i can't even count. >> laura: they could be listening to your lecture, following, taking notes. instead, they are on their phone. it's not good for learning. during the class, focus on the professor. >> i agree. during class, they shouldn't be on it. >> laura: have it in your locker. have it in your locker. >> have it in your bag. >> i am inclined, whatever the french say to do, we should do the opposite. for that fact alone, i say embrace the cell phone. and also in cases of emergency, absolutely. laura, you said take notes. i take notes on my cell phone. >> laura: okay, carrie. you are a young woman. do you remember or not being 14 and you've got the boys in the first row. they are texting each other. in high school and junior high, do you remember? >> i am a little older. >> laura: do you remember? >> the difference that it's updated. you would send paper notes. >> laura: less distracting. >> i think it's more distracting. >> laura: yes, no, i will think about it. >> if you have your laptop out, you probably don't need your cell phone as well to take notes. >> laura: fantastic conversation. but i think it happens more than you are even admitting in your classes. they are all on their phones. >> definitely. i agree. >> laura: do tell them to put them down? >> it says in the syllabus to silence your phone, keep it in your bag. >> laura: they are on their laps. you are making important point. it's like in the movies. put them away. >> that's what i'm more worried about. teachers not enforcing it, teachers trying to be buddy buddy with the students rather than enforcing it the discipline. that's what i'm worried about. >> laura: thank you so much. the media and liberals attempt to understand trump supporters, it kind of fails a lot. one professor may have finally discovered why. he joins us next. a lot of professors next. >> laura: no matter how how hard they try, liberals can't seem to figure out trump supporters and their loyalty to the present. a sociology professor at columbia university may have figured out why they keep getting it's all wrong. he was on radio this morning, and now he joins us with more. professor, good to see you. thanks for being on in the morning and at night. doing double duty. appreciate it. what's going on here with some of the polling and some of the research you've been able to call through? >> there is a few things we see in a lot of studies intended to understand that 2016 election. the main problems seem to be things like presidential judicy design. what motivates trump motors? -- trump voters? of course there is no surveys about why would someone vote for hillary clinton? is it because they are anti-american? so there's this sort of prejudicial study design is a big problem. sometimes there are glaring errors, statistical errors that somehow get through by people who know better and by editors who know better. they are cited by other people who know better. not on purpose. i don't think it's a cynical thing. i think for the most part it's just an issuer the studies are confirming something. these kinds of errors creep in and go unnoticed. >> laura: once one study is published or one poll, it just gets repeated, paraphrased in another website and another and another. i want to show for our viewers what we are talking about. one particular question that illustrates your point. you're not a fan of the president, we should say. you're not a trump supporter. in fact the opposite. this is a cnn poll. question: which of the following do you think is more important? imposing tariffs on imports from foreign countries to protect certain u.s. industries. 25%. maintaining good relations with countries that have been close allies of the u.s. for many years. of course people are going to say that from 63%. so that's a problem because, professor? >> absolutely. the result there was probably the result of what we call framing effect. for instance, if they rephrased the question something like do you support -- like maintaining, like protecting the u.s. economy or u.s. services, critical u.s. manufacturing. >> laura: it's a phrasing issue. classic prejudicial framing issue. when you say maintaining good relations, countries that have been close. it's a biased way to frame it. it's so obvious. also something we want to get too quickly, the pairing of donald trump with racism on the google searches. donald trump white supremacy. donald trump xenophobia. 10,000 results. 2300 results. 3,000 results. why is that a problem? >> what's astonishing is it takes a long time to publish anything in an academic journal. half a year, a year. so the fact that just since 2016, there were these tens of thousands of studies that were published, all of them having the same -- if you survey the abstracts and titles of these words, they all tell the same story. trump voters were racist. at bayer, our roots run deep. so chances are, you've seen us around the house. or... around the yard. on the shelf... or even... out in the field. your mom knew she could always count on us... and your grandma did too. because for over 150 years, we've been right by your side. advancing the health of the people, plants and pets you love. so, from all of us at bayer... thank you for trusting in us. then... and now.

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A recap of the day's headlines and a look at what's in store for tomorrow. judge kavanaugh is confirmed to be a justice in the spring court, he doesn't have a recusal obligation just because he was nominated by the president at issue. the law doesn't support that. look, this is a constant fight between special counsels and presidents. president clinton. they fought back hard and ultimately got a very constrained interview. that interview did blow up in the president's face. it's a cautionary tale for any president going before a special counsel. the supreme court has weighed in on these issues a number of times. they have not come down on the side of the president. in two nixon cases, one case they determine the president was immune from civil litigation. prior to that, they decided the president was subject to a criminal subpoena which richard nixon -- the tapes. it's not clear the president is going to enact the battle. this is going to be an interesting battle if it comes down to it and i think yours with and harmeet are right. if you have different points of view. if that happens in front of the special counsel on the record, that's a disaster for the president. >> shannon: we will see. ultimately the decision is his. as we await to hear the mueller team's response to their latest proposal, we will standby. thank you both very much. special counsel robert mueller star witness is done testify against his former boss, paul manafort. the course of three days, rick gates testified he and the former trump campaign chairman committed a number of financial crimes. the defense team attempted to discredit gates about testimony about extramarital affairs and attacked his credibility as a witness. time for a fox news exclusive. with our ambassador to the united nations, nikki haley, oversees making major news on multiple fronts. she is addressing the socialist belltown and venezuela as well as the maximum pressure campaign against iran and even more. state department correspondent rich edson his life traveling with ambassador haley. good evening. >> good evening, shannon. the u.n. ambassador is here in bogota, touring counter narcotic efforts in the countries that come and go into the border with venezuela for the humanitarian crisis. we were the only tv crew to accompany her throughout the day. we spoke to her multiple times today about the issue that are facing colombia, venezuela, and u.s. foreign policy challenges. united nations ambassador nikki haley stands a short walk from the venezuelan border declaring it is time for venezuelan president nicolas maduro to go. while focusing on the humanitarian crisis in venezuela, flooding into columbia only a few feet away, she also addressed foreign policy challenges across the world in questions of how long the u.s. will wait for north korea to surrender its nuclear weapons. >> we are willing to wait if they want to wait but we are not willing to wait for too long. we are willing to be patient and what their demands may be, but they have to understand that the end result is the same. that's never going to change. we are not going to weaken that and we are not going to weaken the sanctions. this is in north korea's court. >> haley and mike pompeo have accused china and russia of using sanctions enforcement against north korea. today's date bartman official said the u.s. is sanctioning russia again. this time for the poisoning of a former british spy and his daughter in england. haley warns of more potential penalties. >> there's lots of different options we can do. i think he saw there was another round of sanctions that just happened this past week. those are going to continue until we can clean up the behavior. >> the u.s. began restoring sanctions against iran that it was lifted as part of the iran nuclear deal. the european union wants to hold the agreement together. is warning the european firms to continue conducting business with iran. >> they can play politics. it was a bad deal. we wanted to get out of it. we did that. the e.u. can do it they want but you can't condone the practices that are coming out of iran. the e will have decision to make. >> back here to colombia and the crisis with venezuela, ambassador haley announcing the united states will be providing 9 million additional dollars so that venezuelans can have more food. clean water, and medicine. that's on top of what the united states government says is already about $60 million it has provided for those victims of the crisis. >> shannon: a dire situation. does the u.s. think regime changes coming to venezuela? >> the ambassador says at this point, you look at what's happened over the past weekend. there was an attempt on nicolas maduro's life. and eventually something has to happen to make him go. but the united nations, or the u.n. ambassador, said she didn't announce anything that the united states would be doing any type of intervention in the country. right now it's about continued sanctions, getting other countries within this region to apply pressure to try to make him go. the crisis continues. it persists. there's about a million venezuelans living in colombia today. according to the government. shannon. >> shannon: rich has been traveling with the ambassador. thank you very much. the kremlin tonight appears to be reacting angrily to new sanctions imposed a short while ago on russia by the trump administration's state department. trace gallagher is here to break it down. good evening. >> the state department has formally concluded that russia did violate the international ban on chemical weapons when it used a deadly nerve agent to attack former soviet spy sergei skripal and his daughter in britain earlier this year. the state department did not say why drew the conclusion now but under a 1991 u.s. law, the determination automatically triggers mandatory sanctions which covers a wide variety of goods that moscow imports to the u.s. experts say the sanctions could affect up to 70% of russia's economy and 40% of its workforce. congress has been pressing the trump administration to take this action's of march with critics saying it was another example of the president's reluctance to confront putin. g.o.p. congressman ed royce was among those critics but today he praised the administration quoting "the mandatory sanctions that followed this determination are key to increasing pressure on russia. vladimir putin must know we will not tolerate his deadly acts or his ongoing attacks on our democratic process." a russian ambassador promptly dismissed the sanctions. "the theater of absurd continues. no proof, no clue, no logic, no presumption of innocence, just highly likelis. only one rule: blame everything on russia no matter how absurd and fake. let us welcome the united sanctions of america." kentucky senator rand paul, visiting russia for several days, has delivered a letter to vladimir putin from president trump. the question is why. paul says "i was honored to deliver a letter from president trump to president vladimir putin's administration. the letter emphasize the importance of further engagement in various areas, including countering terrorism, enhancing ledges little dialogue, and resuming cultural exchanges." the white house is pushing back at the implication that the president asked senator paul to deliver the note. saying simply that he was asked, the president, to write a letter of introduction to the russian leader and the president simply obliged. shannon. >> shannon: trace gallagher. the united sanctions of america. very crafty. thank you. republican commerce chris collins in new york arrested and charged with insider trading. >> the charges that have been levied against me are meritless, and i will mount a vigorous defense in particular my name. i look forward to being fully vindicated and exonerated. >> shannon: the congressman refusing to step down. we will tell you what effect he could have on the midterms. if the red wave coming? that is what president trump is predicting after yesterday's primary results. but democrats they all signed still point to them taking back the house. in our political panel tackles by. first they went after a free-speech group. now leftist protesters going after the mayor and city council in portland. dramatic new footage of what happened today when we return. but mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on shaky ground. help take control by talking to your doctor. ask about vraylar. vraylar is approved for the acute treatment of manic or mixed episodes of bipolar i disorder in adults. clinical studies showed that vraylar reduced overall manic symptoms. vraylar should not be used in elderly patients with dementia due to increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, or confusion, which may mean a life-threatening reaction, or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be permanent. side effects may not appear for several weeks. high cholesterol and weight gain; high blood sugar, which can lead to coma or death; decreased white blood cells, which can be fatal; dizziness upon standing; falls; seizures; impaired judgment; heat sensitivity; and trouble swallowing may occur. you're more than just your bipolar i. ask about vraylar. vowing to continue his reelection campaign. >> i will mount a vigorous defense in court to clear my name. i look forward to being fully vindicated and exonerated, as i fight to clear my name, rest assured i will continue to work hard for the people and constituents of the 27th congressional district of new york, and i will remain on the ballot running for reelection this november. >> just a few hours after collins surrendered to the fbi this morning, calls were growing from within the republican party for the three term representative of the 27th district of new york to immediately resign with the election just three months away, there is republicans risk losing collins' eat to democrats. >> i think the discussion happening right now behind the scenes, having seen this play out before, should he or should he not step down immediately. you have a very short window in order to get somebody else into that seat. i think he should. >> house speaker paul ryan removed collins from his position on the house energy and commerce committee saying "while his guilt or innocence is a question for the courts to settle, the allegations against representative collins demanded a prompt and thorough investigation by the house ethics committee. insider trading is a clear violation of the public trust." prosecutors say collins, was on the board of directors for an australian biotech company called innate immuno therapeutics, gave insider information to his son. the sound and seven other family and friends sold their stock five days before it plummeted in value. 92%. tonight that company says they have cooperated fully with the sec and they reiterate collins is under investigation and not their company. shannon. >> shannon: bryan llenas, the latest. thank you. democrats and republicans are claiming victory over last night's election results, especially the nail-biter in a republican dominated house district in ohio. president trump won it easily in 2016. the president tweeting two word words: "red wave!" let's discuss it with richard fowler and larry o'connor. welcome. should the president be managing expectations differently? >> may be. the average for the president's party and the midterm over the last 21 midterms i think it's the president's party loses 30 seats. >> shannon: it would flip the house in this case. >> it would. i don't think it's going to be that bad. what's a red wave? is a growing majority in the house? i don't think that's going to happen. but if he only loses ten seats, that would be a miracle. >> shannon: would you give them credit for that richard? democrats are saying if alderson squeaks out a win, it is still a win for the president. >> i guess you give the president credit because he gave the candidate the 1% it took to go over the edge. here's the thing. i think this is a race where democrats two years ago, we were not competitive. we could have fielded barack obama and we would have lost this seat. today you're in a situation where this is an r plus seven. we earn one point. also what happened last night, mcmorris rodgers, she almost came in second in her primary in a jungle primary. g.o.p. leadership. in missouri, we saw voters overturn a right to work bill which is something that democrats have been pushing for. what's been happening across the country, suburban voters are waking up and they are saying may be the republican party isn't our party. if the republican party is serious about wanting that midterms are having a red wave, they need to have real conversations with the american people. >> shannon: the president said last night 8 for 8, the people he endorsed. he's going to feel like he is in the winning. the special house seat. >> the democrats didn't put any money into the campaign two years ago. they threw everything they had into this thing. >> brought up the money. republicans outspent democrats in districts almost five to one and we still came in one percentage point of winning the seat. there are votes still to be counted. >> shannon: i want to talk about the democrats. trying to find an equilibrium. there's been a lot of talk about alexandria ocasio-cortez and senator sanders pushing the progressive wing. here's what happened when ben jealous, former naacp president, was asked a question about this. he's running as a democrat for the gubernatorial race in maryland. >> not to put too fine a point on it, but do you identify with the term socialist? >> are you [bleep] kidding me? is that a fine point? >> shannon: that's how we answer that question. he tweeted an apology. he said i want to apologize to aaron at the post for my inappropriate link which in response to her question. as a former journalist, i know how important it is for a free society to respect reporters and answer questions honestly. >> right now there is to sort of candidates, to people the republicans have focused on. bernie sanders and alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> shannon: her seat is a lock. >> she's in a locked seat in one of the farthest left. her candidate lost last night, that speaks to the fact that the democratic party isn't a party of socialists, even though republicans are trying to paint us as one. >> the chairman of your party said she is the new face of the party. >> she is young and bright and of color. that's the future of what the party looks like. the future of the party also looks like stacey abrams and georgia. she's a young candidate, a vibrant candidate. [all speaking] >> shannon: house candidates considered far left, more progressive didn't win last night. is that good for the democrats? >> a could be good for the democrats if it becomes with the democratic party stands for. they don't have a national message right now. they're looking at this as a district by district by district. maybe that is smart. i don't know. when they were robin's won in 2010, they were just "we hate barack obama" and went they looked at it district by district. they had a national message. try to push back on obamacare and fire nancy pelosi and stop this out-of-control spending. >> democrats have a national message. holding president trump accountable and making ends meet for working families. prescription drugs. this is another red herring. prescription drugs are way too high were going to fix it. >> shannon: there's been bipartisan agreement on that. there are a few things. we are not going to grandma anything here tonight. -- we are not going to agree here tonight. breaking news on i.c.e. raids. we will tell you about a new plan the administration may put in place to prevent illegal immigrants from becoming citizens. a new plan to pay for the border wall, charging the home countries of illegal immigrants. republican congressman amy from arizona joins us live. in new mexico, a man with alleged ties to terrorism holding children hostage and allegedly training them to blow up and shoot up schools. the details, disturbing, when we return. for me, chantix worked. it did. chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. chantix, without a doubt, reduced my urge to smoke. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking or allergic and skin reactions which can be life-threatening. stop chantix and get help right away if you have any of these. tell your healthcare provider if you've had depression or other mental health problems. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. the most common side effect is nausea. i don't think about cigarettes anymore. talk to your doctor about chantix. i don't think about cigarettes anymore. too hot to work? nah. this is the gator xuv835. with game-changing heat and air, it's never too anything for anything. booking a flight doesn't have to be expensive. just go to priceline. it's the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40%. just tap and go... for the best savings on flights, go to priceline. >> shannon: this is a fox news alert. new video from the department of homeland security showing what an agent is: one of the largest operations in the homeland security investigation branch. rating businesses in the minnesota and nebraska and indicting 17 business owners and managers for fraud and money laundering. i.c.e. claims that business has withheld taxes from workers but actually didn't send the money to the government. i.c.e. raids generally target workers, not business owners. that was not the case. they were both targeted. i.c.e. says it arrested 133 workers believed to be in the u.s. illegally. the trump administration is reportedly set roll out a plan that would crack down illegal immigrants if they collected government welfare. "fox news @ night" investigating. ellison barber is on the case. good evening. >> we will start with public charge. part of u.s. immigration law. it's been used as a tool to evaluate immigrants trying to legally enter or stay in the u.s. public charge is currently defined as an individual who is likely to become primarily dependent on the government for substance. cash welfare payments are long term care the government's expense. it is a tool immigration authorities can use to deny entry to the u.s. or deny a permanent status change. the trump administration wants to broaden the definition of public charge. if the changes go into effect, it would make it more difficult for legal immigrants to get something like a green card. under current guidelines, authorities are not looking at noncash benefits when they assess whether or not someone is going to be a public charge. with this new plan, they would. "washington post" published a copy of the draft proposal, lead copy, it's 223 pages long. the administration proposes expanding that definition of benefits used to determine if some on my feet dependent on public assistance. including things like the earned income tax credit, health insurance subsidies, food stamps. if the applicant has dependents, it says what dependents are receiving also matters. privately, officials are downplaying the changes. one official with the department of homeland security said u.s. immigration laws have required immigrants not be a burden to federal taxpayers. the official says the public benefit rules have been ignored for decades. critics dispute it. in a statement of fox news, the aclu's deputy national political director says this regulatory change would effectively punish families and u.s. citizen children for the lack of wealth, adding "legal immigrants who work minimum wage jobs would be forced to decide between their continued legal status and their child's health and nutrition." these changes are not officially public and they are not final. shannon. >> shannon: all right, ellison. we will track it. very interesting. bank you. a previously deported illegal immigrant from honduras convicted of raping a child after philadelphia ignored and i.c.e. detainer and released him pled guilty to illegal reentry. u.s. attorney says "the facts of this case highlight the danger posed by the city of philadelphia's decision to disregard i.c.e. detainers and release previously deported aliens from local custody. "republican congressman has come up with a fund -- funding the border wall. republicans control both houses. why are they getting more done on the immigration front? let's ask the man putting the plan forward. arizona congressman andy biggs joins us. welcome. >> thank you. >> shannon: there is essentially $2,000 charge ahead for people caught here illegally and the u.s. would deduct those amounts from the foreign aid going to these countries, whether it's mexico, guatemala, china, wherever it is. >> that's correct. if we are giving u.s. aid and they are not helping us, which is the case in many of these countries, we find these people cross the border illegally or a visa overstay, we are going to charge them $2,000 by reducing that from the foreign aid they have. i think that's a small part of the funding mechanism i put together. but it's an important part because it provides an additional deterrent. mexico is not really enforcing, helping us enforce our border. this will help them be inspired to help us. >> shannon: i want to give you a chance to respond to some critics on twitter. "stealing money from the governments of countries where people are fleeing from poverty and violence will certainly help alleviate those issues and stop people from trying to escape them by coming here." he says stealing money. this is foreign aid, right? >> it is foreign aid. it's money we've been providing. many of these people are crossing not at ports of entry. they're not coming through illegally. they are breaking into our country. they are coming into our country illegally. we have no idea who these people are. we know that they are in the neighborhood of half a million people that we will actually apprehend. we don't even know what the multiplier is. it may be a million people, 2 million people that cross the border illegally this year. >> shannon: another one. "good luck with that. what a waste of time. the g.o.p. can't even pass their own hard-line immigration bills. just stop the show, man." >> well, it's not meant to be a show. it's meant to provide a funding mechanism for the wall that all of us pledged we would do when we are running for office. it's what propelled president trump to the presidency, quite frankly. it is something i promised. it is something many promise. i'm trying to find a funding and provide impetus and inspiration for my colleagues in congress to put -- pass the bill, get the wall up so we can slow down human smuggling, drug trafficking, and let's enforce our border. >> shannon: we know it's a heavy lift to get anything done on the hill right now. keep us informed about how it goes. >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: breaking news next from ohio 12. new developments that could shake up the account. breaking late tonight. stick around for that. plus, training children to shoot up schools? that's the charge to the man arrested in mexico -- in new mexico. scaling back another obama error regulation. president trump said administration opens the door for fracking in california. that story in the latest on the california wildfires when we return. the world's #1 conditioner brand, has conditioners for every hair type. from air-light foam for fine hair, to nourishing 3 minute miracle for thick and curly. and the moisture-infusing gold series collection. giving more women great hair days - every day. pantene. world's number one... conditioner brand. this ijust listen. 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"the foster parent of one of the 11 children stated the defendant had trained the child in the use of an assault rifle in preparation for future school shootings." the d.a. accused the three women of transporting children across state lines for the purpose of receiving advanced weapons training to meet future acts of violence. police searched the compound last week after receiving a text saying "we are starving, need food and water." after seeing a shooting range on the property, s.w.a.t. team moved in unannounced and arrested five suspects. >> that was the breaking point where i thought we finally had enough probable cause to put in an affidavit for a search warrant and presented to a district judge. >> they were looking for 3-year-old abdul ghani wahhraj, kidnapped last year by his father, who believed the boy was possessed by the devil and planned to perform an exorcism. the child could not walk because of epilepsy. the father is a controversial islamic cleric who is named but never charged as an unindicted coconspirator in the 1993 world trade center bombing. he praised the man convicted of the bombing and call the and fbi "the real terrorists." two of the children in state care told police the young boy abdul died and is buried on the compound property. monday police found that they believed to be his remains. that hasn't been confirmed by the coroner. today the defendants appeared in court. child abuse charges and they have all asked for a public defender. >> shannon: thank you for the update. democratic mayors in chicago and portland attacked by their own party for challenging and changing the resistance. our democrats no longer safe from activists on the left? 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>> rubber bullets have been useful in protest the cost to across the country. taser guns are good. they can't get away from having a weapon because you see what happens when they come to the city hall, how they are trying to destroy property and literally attacked city employees. obviously those are crimes. with that being the case, you cannot trust your safety around people who are looking to make a "point" when it comes to issues they care about. >> shannon: something we know you care deeply about a chicago. violence over the weekend seems to be an epidemic. this is what chicago mayor rahm emanuel said. >> there are too many guns on the streets. too many people with criminal records on the streets. there's a shortage of values about what is right, what is wrong. >> shannon: there were a lot of folks who took it to be victim shaming and they did not receive it well, at least not from this mayor. >> you know what. tamika my thought it was a complete and total deflection. this is a mayor who in 2011 has been out complete and total failure. in addition to the fact that he talks about this reduction in murders. the truth of the matter is it's not really a reduction. it's fake news. it doubled from 2011 until now. the reduction we are talking about isn't a reduction from before he became mayor. he hasn't done anything because it blew up under his watch. there were some things he said that i can agree with, you talk about the value system, what is right and wrong. this is certainly not the man to preach this message because he had some value issues. talk about the mcdonald tape and chicago, with holding it so he could win reelection. this isn't a man should be breaching any message to anyone. he should be talking about safety and clearly that's something that's lost on him. i hope to god in these few short months, he gets to replace the mayor. several months before the next mayoral election. >> shannon: they are putting hundred more officers out. there will be even more. they're getting more officers on the streets. we will keep track it. >> there's a parade coming up soon. that's probably the reason. the largest african-american. in the country. they descend on chicago. i am pretty sure that's the reason. a lot of violence happens around that parade. >> shannon: we hope it will be different this year. thank you as always. >> thank you for having me. >> shannon: do you take our midnight hero to be your lawfullyte wedded husband? 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Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. we have to keep the majority. if we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away. >> let's start in berkeley heights, new jersey, where the president begins his 11-day working vacation. that's where we find kelly o'donnell. good to see you. last night giuliani said there were things that weren't yet public about mueller or potential wrongdoing and then today trump ended that tweet with stay tuned. what do you know about what we are waiting for? >> reporter: well, this has been an ongoing campaign, kasie, from the president's legal team to bit by bit discredit the investigation so that particularly trump voters and those in the republican party would give it less weight as things go forward and at the same time it's also been about dragging out the really big ending game question. will the president participate in any way submitting to an interview with the special counsel. that could have been answered long ago, perhaps, by simply saying that the lawyers don't think it's a wise idea. they will freely say they have grave concerns about it. but instead of doing that, they have taken time to try to narrow the scope, discuss the terms, look at in person versus written questions, all these different variations which have dragged this out. and now they're sort of dangling the idea that there is more to discredit the investigation and the people who have played a part in it. but we don't yet know what the specifics are. as you point out, the president today tweeting this illegally brought, rigged witch hunt run by people who are totally corrupt or conflicted. so all of those loaded terms wrapped in there. 17 angry dems toward the end which is his reference to staffers on the investigative team and stay tuned. the president, of course, has said he wants to tell what he knows, he wants to clear his name. his lawyers have said they understand that he wants to do that, believing that he's got the kind of personality and the ability to convey that. when they talk perjury trap, they say that if the president tells his version of events, and they say those are accurate and they conflict with someone like james comey, for example, that prosecutors could determine that there is a conflict here that must mean that the president is not telling the truth. therefore, charge him if you will, although you don't typically charge a sitting president, but put out a report that says he has been untruthful and has committed perjury. this really has a political end game, as you understand. it goes to congress in the form of a written report from the special counsel, and that's why the midterms are so important. if democrats are in charge, we might have an idea of which way they would take it. if republicans hang on, they would try more than likely to protect the president based on what we know today. >> and certainly that's what devin nunes was suggesting not so subtly in that. >> exactly. now to the insider trading charges against president trump's first ally in the congress, new york congressman chris collins. last night collins went in front of the microphones and vowed to when president trump was throwing out the possibility of who to pardon, he mentioned martha stewart and it would be for a similar crime. this is of course his first congressional ally in the congress. >> it is his first congressional ally in the congress, but i think it's so important for us to understand that the pardon power is not a power that presidents are meant to wield on behalf of their friends and families. the pardon power exists so that the chief executive in our government can do justice. for instance, during the obama administration when congress amended sentencing policies to treat people who had been convicted of crack cocaine offenses the same as folks who had been convicted as powder cocaine offenses, that sentencing change wasn't retroactive and so president obama used the pardon power to create fairness for all people who had been accused of those crimes, whether it was going forward or looking backwards. what we're contemplating here is usually the government is permitted to have a representative, either an agent or in this case the government asked if their irs expert could remain in the courtroom and the judge said sure, that's fine. he apparently had a memory lapse or something that caused him to think that the government was trying to pull a fast one on him and he admonished them in front of the jury. and here's why that's problematic. juries bond with judges. they begin to think like judges. so to hear the judge calling the government out could definitely prejudice the jury against the government. the judge did the right thing here. he considered the government's motion, walked back in and told the jury that what the government had done was okay. it was sort of a lukewarm apology. i think we have to say he said i haven't reviewed the transcript, but i think i was wrong. but that, i think, is enough. the important takeaway here is that the government at the close of the trial when the judge instructs the jury on the law, the government will be looking for an instruction where the judge tells the jury, you should ignore any comments that i've made during the trial, anything that i've said about the facts is not binding on you. you are the finder of the facts, i am the judge of the law. do not consider my opinions in reaching your conclusion. the government, i think, is setting up a very forceful case to make sure that that pretty standard pedestrian instruction is included in this judge's comments to the jury before they deliberate. >> jacob, quickly before we wrap up, the one word i've learned ei never knew before is black robitis. you've worked on many many complex financial cases. that's clearly what's going on in this case. they have laid out everything pretty clearly and it does seem as though while the case may not be completely airtight, it certainly is significant. >> no question about it. the case that we're seeing against paul manafort is a classic tax case. really any problems with the case really tie out to how the government has been trying to put the case in and may be overtrying it. also having been a federal prosecutor with independent counsel and lived through one of these animals is there really is that fear in some respects in that first case to make sure you do everything possible to win the case. what you have here is a judge who's trying to make sure this case is being tried as fairly as possible. unfortunately, that's not to the liking of any of the lawyers. >> tricky. jacob frankel, joyce vance, thank you for your insights today. coming up next, it's an out of this world announcement by the white house. >> it is not enough to merely have an american presence in space. we must have american dominance in space. and so we will. >> the united states space force, a new space wars fighting branch 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the vice president says the space force, which requires approval from congress, would be established as a separate branch of the armed forces by 2020. joining me now to take a closer look at this is former secretary of the air force, deborah lee james. she oversaw the air force space command during her time at the pentagon. deborah, thanks for being here, really appreciate it. i want to show you a little bit more of what vice president mike pence had to say about why we need this. take a look. >> previous administrations all but neglected the growing security threats emerging in space. president trump stated clearly and forcefully that space is in his words a war-fighting domain just like land and air and sea. as president trump has said in his words it is not enough to merely have an american presence in space. we must have american dominance in space. and so we will. >> so you're familiar with our capabilities as they exist currently. what are we doing right, what are we doing wrong, and do we need what the president is proposing? >> well, i will tell you, first of all, that there is no space faring nation that is more powerful and advanced than the united states and the u.s. air force so we are doing a lot of things right. the vice president is correct that in recent years our potential adversaries have been testing and investing in ways that could threaten us in space. so the challenge is to always continue to stay ahead as we are today. i do not think the president's proposal for a separate branch of the military to stand up a brand new space force is the way to go. i think it will sap time, attention away from what we need to. >> it seems like an awfully quick timeline, 2020, to build up an entire new branch of the military. would that even be feasible? >> well, it could be feasible, but the question is will it be workable? will it be a smooth, well-oiled machine? and i think the answer is no. anyone who thinks such a large transformation and creating a whole new separate branch of the military is going to be quick or easy needs to think again. it is going to be long, drawn out. i worry that the bureaucratic thrashing that will go on will just take away from the more important issues, which are how do we improve war fighting capability, how do we do new technology investments. >> there is a history in the united states of civilian cooperation for certain space projects, the international space station. we have had joint ventures with the russians, chinese. how does that fit into this newer, more adversarial view of what's going on in space? >> as you point out, we have always had scientific civilian endeavors that we have done jointly and we continue to do those with russia. but when it comes to national security space, which is the domain of the united states air force, the nro, this is separate and apart. and here is where we do not have cooperation, certainly nothing close with the russian military. they are a potential adversary. >> do we think -- and i've been talking to some of my sources about this, who mostly have been cracking many jokes in my inbox about it more than anything else. but is there any chance congress would support something like this? it's a huge, new expensive branch of the military. in theory, there's the national security arguments you lay out, but it seems to me like it will have a tough road. >> i think it will have a tough road. i think it does have some support in the house of representatives. you may recall that they proposed a space corps which had similar properties. not the same, but similar. i think the senate will question it very strongly. i always come back to the very simple question, what is the problem you're trying to solve, and will a reorganization do it for you? the main problem is war fighting. military services do not do the war fighting in this country. those are done by combatant commands and unified commands. they are the ones who do strategy, concepts of operations. >> for people who aren't intimately familiar, that means a group of separate group together of different segments of the military force? >> that's right. it's a joint approach and it is all about how do we do a strategy for actually conducting the military operation. i would note that the president's report today did call for the stand-up of a new space command, which would focus on war fighting. i happen to agree with that, an that would be a relatively easy situation because space is currently controlled by stratcom. so stratcom would do nuclear, space command would do space. >> and that would be like centcom people might have heard a lot about. deborah lee james, thank you for your insights today, really appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up next, the race is on. how many seats will democrats have to win in november's midterms to take control of the house? steve cokoernacki reveals the mc number. one year after charlottesville, the stars of "black klansmen" talk about the hate in 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where you say the other party could do really well. we've seen the special elections where democrats have improved on 2016. we've seen signs of energy on the democratic side. so we see a lot of the ingredients there. of course we are in a very polarized country right now, a very tribalized country in a lot of ways. so that number 23 in some ways is very feasible when you look at history. when you look more at sort of the paralysis, the political paralysis, you say maybe it will be tougher for democrats. so we partnered with nbc digital to take a fun closer look at that quest that democrats have for 23. 23. >> 23 is the number we have to be thinking about. >> because this is the number of seats democrats need to pick up if they're going to win back the house in november. now, they can definitely get there, but it's by no means certain they're going to be able to. >> so the question is, is there a blue wave coming? >> so for democrats to get those seats, there are a lot of places they can look around the country. but there's one type of district that really stands out. >> it's the 25 districts across the usa that republicans hold that were also won by hillary clinton in 2016. so what we're saying is that the democrats need 23 seats. >> and they do have 25 prime targets, and there are some more seats outside of this they could pick off too. but the biggest problem, even if all of the ingredients are there for democrats in this age of polarization, there just may not be as many targets as there used to be. so there are 25 obvious targets for democrats, and there are dozens of others that they are working furiously to try to flip. >> but there's a wild card factor. >> in 2016 all of the polls spelled doom for donald trump, but he won anyway. in 2018, could we be in for another surprise some. >> and again, that's a little snippet of the fun we had. there are 25 republicans in districts that already didn't vote for trump in 2016. that's the first line after tack for democrats. but you saw in ohio 12 this week, that's certainly not one of those districts. there are other possibilities for democrats they are trying to put in play, places where trump won narrowly, places where trump won seven, eight, nine, ten points. it was 11 in ohio 12. back to you, kasie. >> steve kornacki, thank you. i do think my sources are telling me there's some surprising districts that we may find, pete sessions district down in texas, kathy mcmorris rogers now potentially a toss-up so we could be in for some surprises on election night. our thanks to -- i love those left field productions. that's really cool you got a chance to do one. you can see more of that at the nbc left field youtube channel. youtube.com/nbcleftfield. up next, an election mistake cut kris kobach's lead in half in the gop primary for kansas governor. it could go to a recount. if it does, kobach's office is the one that would handle it. he says he won't recuse himself. the state's former governor weighs in on that, up next on msnbc. know what? no, what? i just switched to geico and got more. more? got a company i can trust. that's a heck of a lot more. over 75 years of great savings and service. you can't argue with more. why would ya? geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more. >> as a practical matter, the secretary of state doesn't actually do anything in the counting of votes. all of the provisional votes are counted by the 105 counties. the secretary of state's office just sort of sits there and watches. at the end of the day receives the tallies from the counties. so if i recuse myself, it wouldn't really make any difference. it would be purely spol ymbolic >> joining us now is former health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius, currently ceo of the strategic firm sebelius resources. it's great to see you, madam secretary, thank you for being here. i want to ask you, first of all, about the state of play in your home state as you see it today. there has been a lot of discussion about what happens if in fact mr. kobach wins the gubernatorial primary and raising the question of whether or not democrats might actually have a shot at getting elected as kansas governor again. >> well, kasie, first of all, nice to be with you. secondly, we're looking very closely at the primary results. great news for democrats. we have a strong nominee who in a multi-way primary race got over 50% of the vote. laura kelly, sitting state senator, is well positioned to be a terrific candidate. on the republican side, as you said, we either have sam brownback's long-term lieutenant governor, his secondhand guy who was responsible for a lot of the economic downturn, cutting schools, cutting taxes, doing a number of things that sent the state into economic freefall or kris kobach, who is now nationally known as a strong anti-immigration, voter restriction, regressive politician who has been under court sanction and actually sent back to school by a judge. so either one of those individuals, i think, is not going to be a very attractive nominee for kansas. we know a strong woman can be elected in kansas. i served two terms, was elected twice in this state. i also got elected twice statewide as an insurance commissioner, so this is not hyperbole to say democrats who are pro choice and strongly positioned can win a seat in kansas. it's been done very recently and laura kelly is really well positioned to do that. the other thing i heard your other report about the 25 seats that are top -- >> i think we have a map that we can put up there or at least some results. that was very close. you can see here 2016 hillary clinton won by 47 to 46%. you think this potentially could flip? >> i think it absolutely could flip. and we have a terrific woman, native american lawyer candidate who has fought her way. we're not used to primaries as democrats, but we've had so much interest in people stepping up and wanting to serve and run for office that we've had primaries up and down the ticket. charice davids is a terrific candidate and she'll be well positioned to take out an incumbent in that district. we also have an open seat that is not as likely -- well, trump won in 2016 the seat but our candidate is an enormously popular candidate who ran for governor, narrowly lost to sam brownback and had no primary. so paul davis is positioned to run in the 2nd. so we have two seats here in kansas that easily could be flipped. >> do you have any concerns that the democrat you've nominated might be too progressive? although, i do know kansas in many ways has been on the leading edge of progressive politics for many years. >> well, that's true. i think that the myth is somehow this is a backwards state. i would tell you that this is a state founded by abolitionists. it has great civil rights laws, human rights laws. women, when laura kelly is elected, she will be the third democratic woman governor in the state. there are only 28 states that have ever elected a woman governor. we've had women serve up and down the ticket in all offices, so kansas is, i think, very much at play and i'm very encouraged by the turnout in the election, by the candidates who were chosen, and we'll see how long it takes to sort out which bad republican ends up at the top of the ticket, but i can tell you either one of them has a record that isn't in line with where kansas voters want to go. >> kathleen sebelius, thanks very much for your insights today. appreciate it. >> thank you. still ahead, puerto rico's government has quietly acknowledged that the number of people who died because of hurricane maria is more than 20 times higher than first reported. so why are we just finding out now? that's next. for investors. introducing zero account fees for self-directed brokerage accounts. and zero minimums to open an account. we have fidelity mutual funds with zero minimum investment. and now fidelity has two index funds with a zero expense ratio. because 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one has to think that if the infrastructure continues to deteriorate that that's going to contribute to even more health problems and potentially even deaths. >> so when you read the specific story cited in that report, because these are more than numbers. at the end of the day this is about people and human beings and the focus groups, the interviews, they all highlight deaths that were related to the infrastructure. for example, doctors say that their patients died because of delayed medical care because, for example, their respirators were off when the power went off. or these communities that were cut off. people that were stuck in their cars that couldn't get out because of the way that the island is structured. so it really emphasized these structural issues that the island is going to have to deal with to avoid a loss of life like the one we saw after hurricane maria. kasie. >> mariana atencio, thank you as always for your continued focus on that story. a warning now, the images you're about to see are very disturbing. the red cross reports that dozens of children are among the 43 people killed today in a saudi attack on a school bus in a crowded market in yemen. many of those children were under 10 years old. the attack is the latest strike on civilians carried out by an american-backed coalition of saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. their goal is to target houthi rebels who seized power from yemen's government. moments ago the u.s. state department responded to these reports. >> i can't confirm all the details because we are not there on the ground. we can say that we're certainly concerned about these reports that resulted -- that there was an attack that resulted in the deaths of civilians. we call on the saudi-led coalition to conduct a thorough and transparent investigation into the incident. >> at least 100,000 people have been killed in the three-year war. up next, the untold story of a black man who infiltrated the ku klux klan. after the break, ali velshi talks race in america with the stars of the film "black klansman." charlottesville, virginia. charlottesville and parts of northern virginia will be under a state of emergency this weekend. the organizers of last august's rally unite the right will mark the day with a rally in washington, d.c. after being denied permission to march in charlottesville. a counter protest is also being planned. my colleague ali velshi sat down with the stars of black klansman, a new movie examining race in america. here is ali's conversation with john david and tofer grace. >> it seems every day we see headlines like this, and this, and this. and all these. and it was a year ago this month that this overt racism in our country was most egregious and it's as these headlines are unfolding that spike lee's newest movie is premiering. it's called black klansman. it's the story of the first black detective in the 1907s. he successfully infill freighted the local chapter of the kkk. you're sitting there thinking how does that happen? you have to watch the movement i to see that. joining me are the two stards of the -- stars of the movie who plays john stallworth. the movie opens august 10, j.d. people are watching this interview who haven't seen the movie and thinking, wait a second, a guy you play infiltrated a local branch of the kkk in colorado springs? >> right, right. unbelievable, right? piece of american history, and it's not common knowledge. i was offant awan't aware of it. i attended a historically black college. this slipped through the cracks. i was surprised with this information. i got deeper into it and i realized how impactful it could be as a film and i'm excited to be part of it. >> you play david duke which has to be tough for you after that film has aired and people see you and look into your face. people don't know david duke, the klansman who has resurfaced now reese endcently in politics. you play him as an easy character. he doesn't seem demonic, he seems like a nice guy who just wants a whiter america. >> that is the problem with david duke. that is what makes him so much more evil than what the idea of a racist was before he came on the scene. same thing kind of happens in the movie. >> yeah. >> when my character enters, there is kind of the first half of the movie they show what maybe the common idea of a racist. >> the prototypical idea of a racist. >> beer belly, red neck dude. and then he came on the scene and his evil genius as he kind of rebranded racism, and the effects are still being felt today. >> rebranding racism is an interesting concept. there is a poll from last month where people were asked, is donald trump a racist? 49% said yes, 47% say no. >> that's close. >> it's close, right? and this is kind of interesting because, you know, trump -- spike lee said this wasn't meant to necessarily be social commentary about trump's america. it's really hard to not see the parallels. >> well, i mean, it's sort of history of hate, hate language. i feel like the rebranding, if you will, has been going on. birth of a nation was rebranded. david duke was a resurgence -- >> birth of a nation was shown in the white house by woodrow wilson. >> there you go. these things have been happening and the resurgence of such organized hatred, we're seeing it from the birth of a nation, david duke who made it sort of normal to speak these words and institute hate, which is more dangerous to me because you're making it so normal, it does president seem like it's coming from an angry place. >> that is an interesting to your point, your character to david duke's character. there is anger and then there is the idea that there is something going wrong with our culture, that but for the infiltration of in the case of the movie, blacks and jews, everything would be fine. >> i did a lot of research on this character. i read his autobiography called my awakening, which is kind of like his version of his me mein kampf. he was on donohue in the early '80s. on that show he used the term a couple times. he said america first and he said make america great again. >> wow. >> and watching that from 2017 when we were right before we were shooting this movie was really eye opening. >> because the point being make america great again by being an america that isn't, i think the language of the movie, polluted >> people can read into that phrase whatever they want. >> another nbc poll from may, this is more interesting. it says is there racism in america? 64% say yes it's a problem. 30% say it's not a major problem. and i guess the point is it's not about whether two-thirds -- >> 1% -- >> right. who is who? >> are they in the bronx asking these questions? >> that's my point. that's an interesting thing. the film does an interesting job portraying in this case colorado springs at that time from both white and african-american perspectives. if you started to look at that and you think about the racism that existed back then, how do you sort of overlay that to today? i think there's still, you know, the same people who would say things haven't improved that much for us. >> for me, i've been saying this a lot, too. what i get out of this film, to answer your question directly, is the language. this lexicon of hate. and you see that it's really not antiindicated. it's prevalent today. ron stallworth, i got to talk to him a lot. he said he would use these trigger words that sort of invited hate. that's how he was able to start his sting operation. >> you portray that well. these two guys are in conversation and how you can say the things people think. again, back to the david duke thing which i think is really an interesting and understated part of this movie, that is that david duke wasn't driven by words that you necessarily associate with those klansmen. it's like he had a more sophisticated approach to racism, which is maybe the kind of racism we have today. >> this movie should not be more relevant today, which it is, than when it takes place. >> gentlemen, thanks very much for being part of this movie. it opens august 10th and it's worth a watch. john david washington and tofer grace. black klansman in theaters august 10th. >> a fascinating conversation to wrap it up for us here this

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A look at the day's news and headlines. republicans, solid support for border security measures. on the other hand, if it focuses on family separation, we know there was widespread big, big majority opposition to the trump administration's family separation policy. by the way, in the case of carmen, the family was not separated. the mother and the daughter were deported together. but if it focuses on family separation, that's an issue that will put a lot of republicans on the defensive. >> bill: a big part of that administration. thank you, byron york. we'll see how this plays out. have a great weekend. >> north korea slamming the u.s. saying the white house is not living up to the agreement reached in june's singapore summit and pyongyang says that could have a major impact on how quickly it tears down its nuclear missile program. kevin corke live at the white house. quickly is an odd word to use, right? this couldn't possibly go any slower. what can you tell us? issues. it is a very difficult circumstance for him and it could be the problem for chicagoans. what that means is they're literally cross in the crossfire. >> thank you. >> bill: from a few moments ago. president trump saying nfl today after preseason game last night including the miami dolphins protest the anthem during the national anthem. some raising a fist and others taking a knee. a football game fans are saying so much money to watch and enjoy is no place to protest. most of that money goes to the players anyway. stand proudly for your national anthem or be suspended without pay. the league's national anthem policy is on hold amid talks with the players union. the issue is back here on the field and in conversation as well. some of these players also chose, a handful of them, to stay in the locker room during A look at the day's news and headlines. covering 3/4 of the entire state and there may be an arrest in one of those fires. >> bill: the trump team saying it wants a space force in 2020. what 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and love. call right now. after two counties reported discrepancies in their initial tallies. this as colyer accuses kobach of giving election officials wrong information how to handle uncounted ballots. we'll ask the governor about all of this when he joins us at 11:00 hour. >> president trump: if you want to stop the radical pelosi and waters, maxine waters, agenda, there is only one choice in this election. that's vote for troy balderson. >> bill: from ohio earlier in the week president trump and republicans looking the make nancy pelosi a political liability for democrats heading into the mid-term as democrat support for her seems to be slipping among some house members. listen. >> when you were elected formally in november, you will have a vote as part of the democratic caucus who will be the next democratic leader. will you vote for nancy pelosi? >> probably not. >> probably not. >> that's my answer. probably not. >> bill: jason chaffetz. how are you doing and good morning to you? i'll quote brian higgins from new york. people pretend it is not a problem but it's a problem that exists. how significant of a problem and what's the liability politically here, jason? >> what brian higgins is talking about is right. there are a lot of democrats grumbling. nancy pelosi should have exited the stage probably at the time barack obama did. they all thought that hillary clinton would be the president. that didn't turn out to be true and now she is the number one albatross around the democrats' neck. the only reason she is there, more than any other politician in the history of the united states she has raised more money than anybody in the history of our nation but other than that nothing positive to the democratic ticket. >> bill: drew hammel pushing back says at the end of the day the mid-terms are about the president and his party. yet you have 27 house democrats who have either not endorsed her for not outright said yes, they will vote for her, jason. >> the only problem with the statement is the very first vote that you have in congress is who will you vote for for speaker of the house. a legitimate question that democrats don't want to answer. when she is telling people that she wants to raise their taxes, she hasn't publicly said she wants to abolish ice but she hasn't shot it down, either. we know they want to impeach the president. this is hardly a positive message that will grave tate the people that are truly in the middle and make this election sway one way or another. it's not a positive economic message in contrast what donald trump and the republicans are offering. >> bill: alexandria ocasio-cortez was on tv and this is her answer. >> i don't think there is any one head. we are a collective. this is a movement. i don't think parties are ever about one person. but they're about how the contributions that each one person gives to the party. so i think that there are exciting folks in the party. certainly folks that i look forward to working with. and i don't think that it's about there being one party being about one person. >> bill: that's a pretty good dodge there. >> we call that waffling, yeah. >> bill: you mentioned taxes and ice abolishment and impeachment. that might motivate a lot of people on the left. what does it do for the middle in early november that you just mention there? >> well, contrast it to the revolution that really happened with newt gingrich. he was an ideological and organizational change. a fundamental new contract with america. and if you are in the middle you really wondering which direction should i go, what are the democrats offering you other than a step backwards? higher taxes, it's not a winning formula and not a positive economic or hopeful message that is out there. i think with the president's success on the economy, an foreign policy, these are all things that are moving in the right direction. donald trump would not be the president of the united states if he didn't get union votes and true independents. those went to donald trump in the mass. >> bill: karl rove has a piece in the "wall street journal" the blue wave may be receding. i don't know what you think. ohio is a bit of a center the other night. looks like the republican will hold that seat but they had only 100,000 democrat vote. they were thinking the margins would be higher than that. when you consider the republican turnout in the california primaries and ohio primaries earlier than that, november is all about turnout. republicans have an uphill battle come november. how do you see this anecdotal evidence coming from from tuesday and other primaries how to make a guess as to whether or not republicans hold the house or lose it to nancy pelosi? >> congressional district is made up of 800,000 people. if the democrats are getting less than 100,000 people out to vote in a pivotal race with every effort it spells a bit of trouble. it is certainly not the big wave that happened in 2010. i was elected at the same time as barack obama. we sat there in 2010 and there were 63 seats that flowed into the republican hands. certainly republicans will lose some races. historically that always happens in a non-presidential election year to the party that's in the minority, but bill, there is no evidence to suggest when the president goes five for five in his selections and puts the emphasis out there, there is no evidence to suggest there is a big tsunami that will float the democrats away. >> bill: just a little bit this way or that way could swing it. jason, thank you so much for being with us today. >> julie: new video showing two teenagers getting struck by lightning. we'll tell you how they are doing. >> bill: also in a moment a new theory on the disappearance of mollie tibbetts. where is this university of iowa student? why police now say they may now know what happened to mollie. >> we all stick together. we're all part of one big group of people that knows everybody. somebody had to 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stable condition and a girl were struck by lightning near phoenix, arizona. they were parking through a park during a monsoon. footage capturing the moment they were hit. the boy is currently in intensive care said to be improving but that's something else. you don't see that every day captured on camera in phoenix, arizona. >> julie: a warning to young people and older people. don't go out in a storm. if they stay indoors, stay indoors. lightning is dangerous. police in iowa canceling the scheduled update on the search for mollie tibbetts for the second time. the question is why? they know something. the 20-year-old was last seen june 18th after going for a nighttime run. now a former f.b.i. profiler is offering fox news a new theory on her disappearance. matt finn is live in brooklyn, iowa, with more on the investigation. >> this morning the lead agency in this investigation tells fox news they canceled the past two press conferences including the one scheduled for today because they didn't have anything to offer the public. however, they tell us they have some type of information they'll give us on monday. exactly what that is is not clear. the f.b.i. profiler you mentioned and mollie's family and her boyfriend are running with the theory they believe mollie got into the car with someone and that something horrible happened after that. she got into a car with someone she knows. we spoke to a neighbor who says he might have been one of the last people seeing mollie jogging before she went missing. this is a short distance between interstate 80 and highway 6. during our time we've seen a lot of trucks getting on and off the highway and a lot of cars. there is also the possibility that a stranger got off one of those roads and ended up here in town. so far investigators have not revealed if mollie was inducted or went disappearing on the jog or made it back to her boyfriend's house where she was staying when she went missing. the boyfriend is clarifying and telling us there was no signs of struggle in that house where she was staying. for weeks he would not clarify for us about a sign of struggle. perhaps investigators were asking him not to comment. he is saying no signs of struggle and pointing out her iphone, fit bit and arm band that she jogged with are all missing. perhaps indicating that she did indeed disappear or was abducted while out on that jog. i talked to a federal investigator in the case. he says so far they have, quote, questioned everyone in this county and taking all leads seriously. here on the ground one bit of activity we have seen is the f.b.i. repeatedly questioned a pig farmer who lives nearby. i spoke to that farmer. he says that he did take a polygraph and that he was asked about mollie tibbetts during that lie detector test. it's a piece of new information. we've been talking to him for a while now and he is very open with us. when we asked him what he is being questioned about he wouldn't tell us. now he does reveal that during the polygraph he was asked about mollie tibbetts and he insists he has nothing to do with her disappearance. so far no suspects or arrests in the case. >> julie: it's interesting they've canceled a couple news conferences. >> bill: you wonder what it means. are they on to something, trying to squeeze somebody, watching somebody closely? you hope so or do they have a lack of information? normally in cases like this they would still hold the news conference and put the word out there. it's tough to know. everybody has their own theories. but mollie hasn't shown up. >> julie: they don't want to come forward if they have no information. >> bill: i would keep giving us tips and make sure she is front and center in the headlines. it captured the attention of the state and country. we need to get her home. growing tensions between us the us and russia. russia saying the u.s. is doing an economic war. this is going back and forth between putin and washington details on that coming up in a moment. >> julie: new evacuations in california as those deadly wildfires continue to grow. this as we learn the majority of the state is now shrouded in smoke. >> it is a nightmare. it's so horrible. i want it to be over. california now as authorities say smoke from the fires is spreading across 3/4 of that state. one man now charged with arson for starting the so-called holy fire. jonathan hunt back on that story on the ground very close to that fire with more. jonathan, good morning. >> good morning to you, bill. the holy fire keeps spreading. it is above 10,000 acres right now. that was the last update we got late last night. new figures will be out in the next hour or so and we expect it to have grown considerably. take a look at two faces of the fire. over this side of this residential street, that is what firefighters call a controlled burn. they are burning away vegetation on the ground there so that they can control where the fire goes if it comes down these hills. then we come back across this side of the street and look up into the hills, the cleveland national forest there, and you can see the flames there. that is uncontrolled burn. that is starting to creep down the side of the hills here. that is the great concern. and last night if you take a look at some of our nighttime video those flames started coming rushing down these kinds of hillsides in this area about 60 miles east of los angeles. it is a great concern. 20,000 people so far have been evacuated from this area as a result of the holy fire. it is obviously a very scary time for any residents anywhere near these flames. listen here. >> it is a nightmare. it is so horrible. i just want it to be over. never think it is going to burn like that. there is no place to go for me but, you know, we'll figure something out. >> 51-year-old forest clark has been charged with starting this fire. he was due in court yesterday but actually refused to leave his cell. so that court appearance didn't happen. not clear when his next scheduled court appearance will be. he was filmed, by the way, after this fire had started near his cabin up in the woods shouting at firefighters accusing them of stealing money from his property. he faces, by the way, 10 years to life in prison if he is found guilty on charges of starting this fire. but it is a big concern here, bill. as you take a look across again of this controlled burn going on here, firefighters really in a race against time to get this under control. weather conditions pretty good right now. but we are expecting blustery winds to come up again this afternoon. and the winds in these kind of canyons behind us is the perfect storm for these fires to grow. that is why in the next few hours they really want to get a handle on this. otherwise a lot of these homes around us now could be in very real danger, bill. >> bill: we'll watch it along with you. southeast of l.a., jonathan hunt on the scene there. >> julie: russia vowing to retaliate over new u.s. sanctions comparing the penalties to, quote, economic war. the state department announcing the sanctions wednesday in response to the poisoning of former russian spy and his daughter in the u.k. the russian prime minister saying it would be necessary if it would be needed to react to this war economically, politically or if needed by other means. our american friends need to understand this. let's bring in mary kissel. editorial board member at the "wall street journal." what is russia's prime minister meaning when he says by taking other means. he is threatening something. >> russia likes to threaten and bluff. you saw after turkey shot down a russian plane over syria russia threatened turkey and they backed down. you saw them threatening the united states after we killed several russian mercenaries. they like to talk and do little. they have some avenues where they can make trouble with us. >> julie: they know u.s. sanctions work and why they're reacting the way they are. >> that's true. president trump was right to reimpose sanctions after the poisoning. let's think about what happened here. moscow or one of its agents deployed a nerve agent on british soil. accidentally killing a british citizen, sickening several people and it could have sickened several hundred more the way this was done was very nerve racking. and there need to be consequences for this kind of action. >> julie: what are the consequences? u.s. sanctions. first of all, vladimir putin denies not only the whole poisoning but all the numbers of other chemical poisonings that he is allegedly responsible for appointing. none of which he will ever admit to. so if you don't have a president that's ever going to admit to any wrongdoing whatsoever, how do you get him to drop his chemical weapons? >> the key is unity in the western alliance. what happened after this poisoning is that the united kingdom, france, united states and other allies kicked out lots of russian spies. that's great and a good gesture but it doesn't hurt putin and his cronies who are running a criminal empire. that's who he is. he is a thug and criminal. by taking this measure, which was entirely appropriate, the trump administration said we have a law on the books. when we determine chemical weapons are used we have to take certain actions under the law. that's what's been done. >> julie: after the summit the president got a lot of heat from those who felt like he was soft on vladimir putin when it came to his russian meddling but in fact his tactic was quite a opposite. here we are a month later and we are talking sanctions here. the president has a tactic he used in order to sit down and speak with vladimir putin but with no uncertain terms laid down the law. >> julie: he is getting a lot of pressure from congress to do that. several bills are moving through the senate, the deter act, lindsey graham and bob menendez have a catch-all bill here. the congress is concerned and they are forcing the trump administration, i think, to take harder measures. they are talking about mandatory sanctions on energy, on finance, on banking, on sovereign debt in russia. i think it will be watered down but it is coming down the track and the white house is starting the realize they'll have to work with congress to shape something they can both live with. >> julie: what happens in 90 days? >> in the house? >> it's a tough road. people vote with their wallets but i think the republicans have to take credit for what they've done and i think trump by coming in to these local races is nationalizing the race and that's a risk. he succeeded in some places, in georgia and ohio, but failed in others, in pennsylvania, for instance. so look, if you want this agenda to continue, if you want a stronger foreign policy, if you want economic prosperity, you better hope they win in november. >> julie: what does the trump administration need to see from russia in order not to impose more sanctions in 90 days? already stocks have been going down, the ruble is taking a huge hit, russia is already feeling the pinch. >> the president is constrained by u.s. law. under u.s. law several things have to happen for the president to be able to waive the second set of sanctions including on-site inspections. do we think russia will allow u.n. or u.s. inspectors to go? i don't think that will happen. >> julie: these countries cannot be trusted without inspectors -- >> i don't think we can trust u.n. weapons inspectors. i think we need u.s. weapons inspectors. these guys are thugs and they need consequences. if they behave better we can pull off some pressure but until that happens he needs to keep the pressure on. >> julie: there needs to be accountability and this president is doing so. >> bill: former ohio state university wrestler now changing his story about congressman jim jordan from ohio. coleman had been quoted saying that jordan must have known about sexual abuse by the team's doctor when he was an assistant coach in the 1980s and 1990s in columbus ohio. he said those comments were attributed to him that were not accurate or misconstrued by media outlets. >> julie: the nfl preseason getting into full swing and already protests during the national anthem. president trump firing back. we'll have a live report coming up. >> bill: the vice president mike pence laying out plans for a space force two years from now. what will it look like? nasa administrator jim bridenstine is our next guest. >> it is not enough to merely have an american presence in space, we must have american dominance in space. and so we will. 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[applause] >> bill: vice president mike pence laying out the vision yesterday on our program for the president's space force said to be installed by 2020. if approved it would establish the first new military branch in 70 years. now the question is whether or not the plan is practical. what does it look like? nasa administrator jim bridenstine is here to answer some questions. two years or 20 years but it is bound to happen eventually. can you give us an idea what the vision is on space force? >> absolutely. so when you think about the united states economy. we're dependent on space. the way we navigate, the way we communicate. a lot of your viewers are watching this probably an direct tv or dish network or receiving it on the internet or maybe broadband from space. the way we produce food in this country and energy in this country. in fact, weather prediction, understanding of the climate. national security and defense, disaster relief. all of these things are dependent on space. one thing that maybe a lot of americans aren't familiar with is how dependent we are on the gps signals for timing. every banking transaction in this country requires a timing signal from gps. the power grid in this country requires a timing signal from gps for the flow of electricity. it regulates the flow of electricity. these kind of things are cell towers. >> bill: we have come to co-exist together in that sense. a former legislator from the state of oklahoma, republican. when you -- you've been on this topic, you voted for it three times as a member of congress. you've been thinking about this for a long time. i think about the gps technology used to make our missiles more accurate than they ever were before. 15 years removed from that. so when you envision a space force, jim, is it more human based in space or more technology? >> it's more technology by far. so as the nasa administrator we have hundreds of billions of assets in space and humans on the international space station. we do care about space security and when i was a member of congress, as you said, i voted on this three times. in fact, it passed the house of representatives with a vote of 344 to i think 80 something. so that was an overwhelming bipartisan bill that passed the house of representatives. and what the president sees, the president sees how in essence dependent the american economy is. space represents an export for the united states, which offsets the trade deficit as you are aware that the president is very keen on fixing. and so if we want to be able to protect and preserve this critical piece of the american economy, we have to be prepared. enemies of the united states -- >> bill: this is a critical point. if you can defend your satellites, you have an enormous advantage, if not the ultimate advantage, correct? >> yes, absolutely. and our potential adversaries are calling space the american achilles heel, which when you think about how dependent we are on space. if we don't have banking in this country, every banking transaction requires a gps signal for timing. if we lose banking we don't have milk in the grocery store in a matter of days. that's a threat to the united states. the president has seen the same intelligence we saw in the house of representatives. he has moved very quickly to establish a space force, as we had voted on in the house of representatives. and with support from the executive branch i think we'll get this done. >> bill: $8 billion over five years. that's just a starting number, don't you think? i don't know how much it will cost in the end. last comment on that. >> here is the thing. there was a time when the air force was part of the army. a lot of people said we don't need a separate air force back in the 1940s. it's too expensive, more bureaucracies. we created the air force and because of it we've been effective in thaoerts of war. when you think about space that's where we are now. a new domain where it's critical for americans to be protected. i'm talking about americans on earth being protected because we're so dependent on our space technology. >> bill: this is a competition as you well know. i hope you come back. jim bridenstine, thank you from nasa for dreaming a little bit today. >> julie: securing our border. arrests of people coming into the country illegally up sharply but the biggest surprise may actually be where the fastest growing group of detainees is coming from. it's not mexico or south america. into california from mexico, today more than 6,000. most in the tiny place called el centro. >> many immigrants only speak punjabi. agents here apprehend more indian nationals than any group other than mexicans. >> it's a common area for indian nationals to be crossing because it's the path of least resistance. >> across the entire u.s. mexican border this spot is where more indian nationals cross than anywhere else, why? look at the fence from the mexican side. we're looking at maybe five feet. don't need a ladder. officials say five to 10 indian national cross illegally into the u.s. every day. >> 70 miles of border with mexico is the lead sector with indian apprehensions. we have over 3200 indian nationals that have been apprehended right here in one particular spot. >> how? agents say they fly to qatar, ecuador, central america up to el centro. >> they know the border is heavily guarded closer to the ocean. >> she says women who marie outside their class system while men flee political persecution. >> the lowest caste are not allowed the participate fully in society. >> the smuggling fee for an indian national is $25,000. most go live with relatives until a judge can hear their claim. >> julie: india, who would have thought. >> bill: a new round of nfl protests from last night. kneeling, raising fists, others staying inside the locker room. preseason game one and the president is firing back about that. russia upping the ante against the administration vowing retaliation against the u.s. after a new round of sanctions for russia. that's coming up at the top of the hour. come on back. on our rooms, guaranteed ? 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>> i don't see why not. >> they're trying to raise awareness of social injustice and police brutality. the league thought it would work with the players off the field. i don't they they expected they would have to deal with this on the first preseason game of the season. >> bill: probably right about that. >> julie: rick leventhal, thank you. >> bill: more on this coming up with the 24/7 crew. russia warning if the u.s. follows through on its threat of new economic sanctions it would be seen as a quote declaration of economic war. those sanctions coming in response to the russian poisoning of a former spy in the u.k. i want to bring in lee zeldin, congressman from new york. thank you for your time. talk about russia, north korea and a few other things. here is the comment from russia about the threat. he says we can clearly call this a declaration of economic war and we must absolutely respond to this war by economic means, by political means and if necessary by other means. our american friends must understand this. what do we not understand from their perspective? >> i think what's unfortunate is that you are not seeing an appreciation as to why the united states and other countries took the actions that we are with regards to sanctions in response to -- you can't use chemical, biological weapons abroad. you should not be using it within your own country whether it's assad in syria and putin in russia. what you see as the consequence of the use of these weapons, the united states, u.k. and others take action and we're imposing sanctions as a consequence of that action which is a violation of international law. what's unfortunate is you don't see the russians showing any type of appreciation whatsoever as to why we're in this position. it is a consequence of their action. >> julie: the russian stock market has taken a major hit already. the state department and heather nauert spoke yesterday basically clarifying that the united states does want a good relationship with russia but they need to meet our standards. >> we would like to have a better relationship with the russian government recognizing that we have a lot of areas of mutual concern. it is a major country. we're a major country as well. when you have that, you are forced to have to have conversations with other governments. and sanctions is a way that we can try to encourage better behavior. >> julie: the bottom line here is u.s. sanctions work. they are working or were working with north korea. they are working with russia. they wouldn't be reacting this way if they weren't. >> right. it took russia years to be able to recover from the consequence of sanctions that we saw years back and now we're seeing the consequence of sanctions coming in place, the threats of additional sanctions over in russia, and the russian economy suffering as a result of it. so there is leverage and it is important when dealing with an adversary such as russia, if you want to work with them in any way as it relates to the counter terrorism mission, votes at the united nations security council where you saw a russian vote with the united states that effectively cut off over 1/3 of north korea exports in 2017. preventing iran from having a land bridge in iran to israel. there was a distraction but there were other important topics that unfortunately were overshadowed. now we have this leverage. i don't believe that the sanctions -- it's primarily to increase leverage as much as this what we're talking about here today being a consequence of russian actions. what you are seeing with the first part of these sanctions going into place relates to national security, sensitive u.s. technologies. but you are a few months down the road. if diplomatic relations don't improve, then you might see a further reduction a few months from now of diplomatic relations including cutting off access to russia entities to united states banks and all exports to russia. the next step of sanctions can be more than severe if russia doesn't change its behavior. >> bill: the sanctions have to go into effect by using biological or chemical weapons. let's being back to the sanctions on other countries. an north korea it seems like we're sliding back the other way. there is the threat against the u.s. mike pompeo issued a response on that. this is what pyongyang is saying. the statement from that government. as long as the u.s. denies even the basic decorum for its dialogue partner and clings to the outdated acting script which the previous administrations have tried and failed, one cannot expect any progress in implementation of the joint statement including the denukeization and -- i don't know how you take that other than some sort of veiled threat. how do you read that? >> i think that the north koreans have never dealt with anyone like president donald trump. we are approaching this from a position of strength, not weakness. it is president trump, you have a secretary of state mike pompeo, national security advisor john bolton and an entire team around the president understanding we need to learn lessons from the past. not repeat the mistakes made by presidents of the past and maintain that position of strength and deal with the north koreans. north koreans would love to use the script that has worked for them in the past which has been to roll united states presidents and united states administrations one after another where they stretch this out and they don't actually end up doing what they had agreed to in the first place. so i think north korea is very uncomfortable with the fact that they are continuing to remain in this position of weakness with regards to the president. and they want to flip the script and we won't allow them to do that. >> julie: you took the words out of my mouth. as far as outdated scripts that's what north korea is doing. here you have north korea where they have missiles capable of hitting the united states, south korea and japan and yet they're playing again with the united states. this president is not playing games. the sanctions obviously forced them to the table. what is the next role here? they despise john bolton. mike pompeo was able to organize this summit. john bolton says basically it was a bust. he was against it from the beginning and now maintains we have been had. what is your take on that? >> i think we need to maintain this pressure with relation to the economy, the economic pressure. i referenced earlier the security council resolution over the course of 2017 the president's first year in office we established a military option as being a real option. the last possible option and we don't want it. but what that ended up doing making the multi-lateral and bilateral diplomacy more effective and ramping up the economic pressure. diplomacy, information, military, economics. if the military option isn't real that weakens all the other options in the way we approach the dime principle. we'll maintain the pressure on north korea. we're seeing various steps where one particular site where they might be doing missile development or testing. we are seeing them ceasing certain activities which is great and showing in good faith a positive development. remember where we were 15 months ago. that's good. >> bill: don't want to go back there. the minute we have left here. address what seems to be one of the strongest tools this administration has, that's the strength. u.s. economy. when you've got an economy right now that is moving the way it is and you apply these sanctions you see what is happening to the turkish market overnight and see what's happening in russia with their market overnight? if you can get china and russia to cooperate on north korea you can see what happened 15 months ago and where we've come since then. iran as well. that economy is on its knees. this administration has found a tool in our own economy to punish others and try to bend them in our favor. your comment on that. >> absolutely. so i believe in american exceptionalism. more than just having the greatest military we have the biggest economy in the world. this president understands by leveraging the fact we have the number one economy we get results better behaviors of foreign entities whether they're friend or foe. whether it's negotiating better trade deals. getting votes at the u.n. security council. kudos to the president. really utilizing the obvious but in a way that prior presidents weren't. no longer apologizing for american greatness. understanding american exceptionalism. it's more about having the greatest military but also the greatest economy. >> bill: lee zeldin. thank you for your time and coming back today, the republican congressman from new york. >> julie: republicans are using house minority leader nancy pelosi in attack ads ahead of the mid-term elections. how big a problem will she be for democrats in november? >> president trump weighing in on the deadly gun violence in chicago. at least 11 killed in the city last weekend. what the president says needs to be done in america's second city. >> president trump: we must strengthen bonds with community law enforcement like cities from chicago that have been an absolute and total disaster. train for that marathon. and now, save up to $500 on select sleep number 360 smart beds. ends wednesday. booking a flight doesn't have to be expensive. just go to priceline. it's the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40%. just tap and go... for the best savings on flights, go to priceline. talking to jason chaffetz about this last hour he is making the case she is weighing down the democrats for november. >> there are a lot of democrats that are grumbling. nancy pelosi should have exited the stage at the time barack obama did. they all thought hillary clinton would be the president, which didn't turn out to be true. now she is the number one albatross about the democrats' neck. >> jonah goldberg is free from the swamp today. shelby holliday and imly tisch sussman. our a-team. is nancy pelosi a drag for november? >> no. the oldest argument you can possibly imagine. honestly, to see her featured in gop ads say the republicans are scared and a little bit lazy. this is the repeat ad of 10 years ago. if you're the party owning the government and you have no positive messages. republicans are scared and going to the lowest common denominator. >> you are scared and angry, sir. >> i do not speak for the republican party, i'll make that clear. look, i think nancy pelosi should have gone a long time ago. she is a problem with democrats. you wouldn't have so many democrats saying either they won't vote for her or not answering the que. it cuts both ways. this actually lets a lot of democrats who want to win over in purple districts say look, i'm not part of those guys. >> bill: we saw that in ohio tuesday. >> look how close it was. the blue wave has happened when you have 41 retirements and historically open seats go to the party out of power disproper po portion naturally. i think the democrats take back the house. >> bill: some of the argument is 26 -- 27 house democrats haven't said they would vote for pelosi as speaker. >> that's significant. it is covering special elections when you talk to voters on the ground, this is an issue that resonates with them not because of nancy pelosi but because what she symbolizes. she symbolizes the coastal elite. they didn't want her money in the district. whether or not the democrats side with nancy pelosi or say they would vote for her, i do think it's an effective campaign to say nancy pelosi's money is involved in this and her influence is involved in this. a lot of people want her influence out. republicans don't have the problem on the opposite side. >> julie: the democrats say they don't have star in the party. she would like to be that star and she is pulling out all the punches. here is an ad from ohio. >> after lying, dishonest danny o'connor admits he will vote for pelosi. >> i will vote for whoever the democratic party supports. >> he lied about pelosi. >> julie: there is your gop ad. what is your think? >> it was a double whammy. it gets him for trying to be clever going both ways. i also think one of the things that's important to remember in the democratic party a lot of anti-pelosi sentiment from the left. the leadership of the democratic party and a lot of the presidential wanna bes looks like a remake of the cast of cocoon. an old bunch. nancy pelosi is a san francisco democrat, been around for a long time. the fact that crowley got beat suggests there is a desire for fresh blood from the left as well. i don't think it gets factored into it. >> bill: emily, did you like that movie? >> we say blue wave or party out of power. we are talking about republicans are centering around the power of a potential leader. it is trying to bait people to show up for elections. they know republicans aren't energized where the party is now and the best they can do. >> bill: reading all the postmortem's from tuesday night is fascinating. chicago is a life and death story here. the president on the violence that we saw last weekend. >> president trump: we'll be talking about chicago today because that's something that in terms of our nation, nobody would believe it could be happening. 63 incidents last weekend and 12 deaths. that's bad stuff happening and probably i guess you have to take it from the leadership. bad leadership. there is no reason in a million years something like that should be happening in chicago. >> bill: 18 people killed this past week alone. 73 others wounded by gunfire. and no end in sight. >> it's terrible. i think -- i can't find anything to object to what donald trump said there. making it into a major partisan issue i can see why it would bother people but it is a terrible thing. a big problem that seems to be somehow unique to chicago. when i grew up in new york in the 1970s when that stuff was common and they fixed it here. >> bill: what you learned in new york good leadership. >> look at what former mayor giuliani did in the city. chicago mayor rahm he -- emmanuel. the trump administration wants $50 million given to prisons for drug treatment and job skill programs for people let out of prisons. what is rahm emanuel doing? >> they're increasing police presence there. he announced a number of measures. will it convince the people of chicago it is a meaningful step to end the violence? the president is making it a partisan issue but shining a light on something we should be talking about. these are lives being lost. dozens of lives over the weekend. and so it would be great to see the president also while he is criticizing it come up with solutions and perhaps go to chicago. it would be -- it is a complicated issue. >> bill: these are two men who won't reach out to one another at this moment. how much has the leadership of that town failed its own people? >> the leadership nationally. also in chicago has failed. no question about it. when we have this many deaths it's far too many. one is too many. last night i was with young people from chicago and parkland and there were mothers there and sisters and they were talking about how every death is too many. one of the things they brought up a lot is access to easy guns and accessibility in these communities and part of why chicago is so unique in the large increase in gun violence that we see every year because it's so easy to access guns coming in from states around them with weak gun laws. they are coming in from indiana and wisconsin where they see the most amount of guns coming up. it is leadership on every level. state, city and president. >> bill: could be a pej ortive but does america care more about school violence than gang violence? this has been going on for years in chicago and no one has stepped up. you had people in the streets a month ago with these rallies that stopped traffic on lakeshore drive and the highways around there. the uprising against it has been surprisingly mute. >> first of all, it is somewhat of a distinct problem for chicago. overall gang violence and street violence, inner city violence has been plummeting for 30 years in this country. so it doesn't affect the entire country. it seems like oh, that's chicago's problem. meanwhile, the suburban mostly white kid school shooting stuff is so random and terrifying and seems like it could happen anywhere at any time that it plays on people's fears more powerfully and suburban communities more upscale communities have more political clout in the country than inner city. >> bill: this topic will continue. hang on, okay, jonah, shelby, emily, stand by. >> julie: tensions rising in the trial of former trump campaign manager paul manafort. the judge and prosecution going at it. the judge apologized yesterday but now it looks as if the peace was short lived. we're live from the courthouse. >> bill: the latest on the push to split california into three. one billionaire's big idea is coming to a screeching halt perhaps. stand by. truecar is great for finding new cars. you're smart, you already knew that. but it's also great for finding the perfect used car. you'll see what a fair price is and you can connect with a truecar certified dealer. now you're even smarter. this is truecar. welcome to at&t innovations where we give you more for you thing. and here's where we shrink the biggest names in entertainment so we can fit them into our unlimited wireless plan. who's first? 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there are thousands of them. even though some headlines about the judge and certain witnesses say it will be about the jury and they're upstairs now on the ninth floor taking this all in. >> julie: who are the mueller team's final witnesses? >> two of them will be bankers given immunity to testify so they don't get in trouble if they admit to possibly being part of a scheme that is being investigated. these two immunity-granted witnesses work at the federal savings bank in chicago. that is the bank the mueller team alleges gave paul manafort a multi-million dollar loan before paul manafort tried to have the bank ceo nominated as secretary of the army. the ceo who is not expected to testify as a witness called by the mueller team did not get nominated as secretary of the army but sat on a trump campaign advisory committee. another witness expected to appear today, the senior director of ticket operations for the new york yankees and we expect him to be asked something that came up a few days ago that paul manafort owed the yankees more than $200,000 for season tickets and he asked his former right-hand man, rick gates, to send the yankees an email saying he used manafort's credit card to buy the tickets without manafort's permission. the mueller team has been trying to reassure the judge, despite all the haze about different complains and what different witnesses are saying, they will rest their case today. but there is a significant delay in the start time. they were supposed to start at 9:30 and still in recess right now. back to you. >> julie: peter doocy, great to see you. >> bill: apparently the dream is over. tim draper dropping his quest to divide california into three different states. david asman joins us on this now. why did the dream die? >> the dream began to die back in june when the state supreme court said that it couldn't be on the ballot or wouldn't be unless there was another infusion of energy from tim draper in money. the guy spent over $5 million over the past few years trying to do this. split it into three parts. all the money parts of california. the top part as you can see is silicon valley and that's where the billionaire valley is. then the l.a. district which deals with all the entertainment money in california and you have san diego more the retired old money in california. but those would be the three sections. i don't know what name they would be given to the three parts of california but the bottom line is tim draper gave up on the dream and says -- >> julie: he got california to back him on this and california didn't want it, either. >> he says california might have wanted it if it was on the ballot. we won't know. he says the elite that controls california whether it's the judiciary elite. supreme court decided not to put it on the ballot or the state capitol elite. he said they shouldn't be making the decision. proposition 9, the ballot initiative is dead right now. >> julie: he said i want to pull out the voters to discuss and think about it a different way forward a reboot and i wanted the political class to witness the frustration of california voters with decades of inaction and decay. there is a significant benefit. >> you have these ballot initiatives. not every state has this. the states that do is a perfect place to put things like these wild ideas of splitting california in three parts. put it on the ballot and let the people decide. i don't see the problem with it. he has run out of money. he hasn't run out of money. he is a billionaire. >> bill: it's a decimal point for him. what are they doing in terms of gambling at your favorite spot? >> buffalo wild wings has been in rough times. it hasn't been pulling in the millennials it wants that spend a lot of money on alcohol and that's where they make their biggest margin in terms of money. they are turning to the idea of putting gambling in there. everybody -- i'm not a gambler but i put in office pools and money and i think everybody has put money in sports gambling at one point or another. they want to make it unified across all their franchises. they're not only in the united states but all over the world. for now if its works it could be transposed to the whole world. if you've been to buffalo wings they have the big screen tvs everywhere. almost all sports initiatives that people are talking about, people are probably betting inform nallly on. this would give them a chance. i would have a suggestion i would throw out there. if you are paying for your buffalo wings with a credit card, i would not allow credit cards to be used in gambling. that's where people have a compulsive attitude toward gambling could overextend themselves. focus on cash and debit cards. don't allow people to extend themselves into credit. >> julie: it might make you think twist after you're on your 12th buffalo wing. >> bill: the issue of gambling in america is more popular to make it more accessible to more people. >> the supreme court said let it flow. sports gambling wouldn't be confined to las vegas. every state will have its own law. they'll have to deal with a lot of legal issues and vary from state to state. it will cost them a lot of money. they think the revenue that will come in will make up for the expense. >> bill: have a great weekend. thank you, david asman. >> julie: lawmakers getting their first look at documents to president trump's pick for the supreme court and how democrats are trying to use it to block his confirmation. >> bill: ben shapiro looking to face off against alexandria ocasio-cortez. she turned down a $10,000 offer for a charity debate. we'll explain why and the response next. booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. add-on advantage. this ijust listen. 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i think this is deeply, gravely concerning to people who have already decided they'll vote against him and it doesn't matter much to people who aren't. >> the democrats right now before the mid-terms don't have much power. so they are grasping at straws. emails and documents are important but grasping at straws in the sense they want to drag it out as long as possible so they have maybe some leverage if this actually extends. >> bill: this will be continued. we'll see where it goes. mitch mcconnell wants to put it on the fast track. see if he is successful. a dust up between ben shapiro conservative commentator and cords in new york. let's start with shapiro. he suggests they debate for 10 grand to charity. >> i would love to have a real conversations with you about the issues. not only am i eager to discuss the issues you, i offer $10,000 to your campaign today. >> bill: that went nowhere because cortez responded later. just like cat calling, men with bad intentions and also like cat calling for some reason they feel entitled to one. she went there, emily. >> she went there. i would also like to note that $10,000 for her campaign would be an illegal campaign contribution. >> bill: it was to a charity. >> he said in the clip it was campaign contribution. >> if we could sell tickets for $50 we'd give it to charity. >> she should go out there. she talked to a lot of outlets already. she should keep going as long as it's a real conversation, not a setup. i think she should talk to him. >> julie: some are saying she wouldn't be able to hold up to him and why she isn't doing it. she has been caught in a couple instances where she doesn't necessarily know a lot of the fact. >> a couple is generous. >> julie: i'm being bipartisan here. with that said do you think she is afraid to stand up to certain republicans? >> she might feel vulnerable. she is young and thrust into the national comments. made a few comments on cnn the other night that people thought were shocking. she didn't know if nancy pelosi was the leader or speaker. she ultimately got it right. she has had moments in the media that haven't been her best. going head-to-head with shapiro i thought it was unfair when she said he had bad intentions. >> bill: cable networks are looking for content all the time. people would watch it. >> they would watch it. i think that's why she is out there so quickly. i don't think she intended to be a national voice. i do think she made a good point. there is not one leader of the democratic party right now. we have not seen this in at least 10 years, probably more. i think it is the cable news fueling putting her out there to create more content. >> bill: men with bad intentions. do you want to address that, sir? >> first of all. she has given every reason to believe she has not a big grasp on capitalism and socialism. she doesn't know what sme is talking about. ben shapiro said let's debate it. he was sincere and give her a chance to give her opinions out there and what i don't like about the response from cortez, it's basically first of all has nothing -- no similarities with cat calling. nothing to do with sexism. democracy, we're supposed to believe in the power of ideas and arguments and fact and reason to persuade people and have intelligent conversations. and she responds to an offer to do exactly that saying that's like you yelling sexist things at me on the street. that's profoundly idiotic. >> i hate cat calling. i don't know if these two things are similar but i think it's a brilliant p.r. stunt for both of them. we are talking about it. an interesting offer. her tweet might have been out of context. >> bill: it should go to charity anyway. emily, have a great weekend, okay? shelby, see you soon. jonah, nice to see you freed from the shackles of swamp d.c. come on back. have a great weekend. >> julie: nfl players starting the preseason with protests. the president weighing in as well. >> bill: getting ready for the space force in 2020. let the merchandising begin. we'll show you the official on which symbol should represent the next branch of the u.s. military. and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget... that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you tweeted this. nfl players are taking a knee when they should be proudly for the national anthem. numerous players from different teams wanted to show outrage at something that most of them are unable to define. they make a fortune doing what they love. we happy, be cool. the football game fans are paying so much money to watch and enjoy is no place to protest. most of that money goes to the players anyway. find another way to protest. stand proudly for your national anthem or be suspended without pay. end quote. debate is back with us again. >> i'm so glad the president tweeted using putting the word outrage in quotes. some of these guys can't define why they are kneeling. some players last night did not even speak about it. yet the first time i can recall colin kaepernick using the term systemic oppression. it started two years ago with him. it's the first time we're hearing it. when the president says some can't really define what it's about. kenny stills of the dolphins, one of the players who raised a fist after the game said until we can deal with the issue of guys like kaepernick and his former teammate eric reed who kneeled being blackballed. until these guys get hired we won't talk about the other subjects. we want to look toward resolution. >> bill: what do you think the resolution is here? if you're on the field you're required to stand by some owners. what is it? >> john lennon's song imagine. thousands of people singing. it covers the same message. systemic oppression, people don't want that. imagine john lennon said until all these problems get solved i'll never write another song. how do you solve all the problems? >> you read the president's tweets a few minutes ago. should the president be tweeting about this? i understand why he does. he is standing up for the military, law enforcement and americans who think kneeling during the national anthem is disrespectful but he is also giving the players a bigger platform. they can now say i'm kneeling during the national anthem despite what the president says about me. >> we had a half dozen guys last year. >> this is preseason game number one. >> honestly, one quarter of one percent of the players last night kneeled. >> even if one player kneels that's one player too many. >> bill: my feeling is the resolution -- if you don't want to be on the field, stay in the locker room. some owners will except that. others like jerry jones will not. >> julie: let's lighten the mood a little bit. samsung. are they showing up apple? >> they're trying to. the high-end will set you back $1250. that's something you want to spend on something you'll drop in your toilet. 512 gigabytes on memory expanding to terabyte. >> they improved the camera. it's a race between samsung and apple. the camera has been improved. your pictures will be perfect and a bigger battery. we've had problems with samsung when they changed the battery. they're calling it the all-day battery. charge it once in the morning and last all day. >> julie: i'll put that to the test. >> bill: we have six logos for the space force. which one do you like? >> if we could take a look maybe we could take a vote on them. there are six. one even says mars awaits, i believe. they're very space-like. see them over there. i think my favorite is the big one in the middle. top middle. >> bill: whoa, middle up or low? top middle. >> the president's campaign is asking supporters to vote on the logo and it will be on flags, t-shirts, hats and what nots. maybe making money off it. >> i think the choice you made. it's the boldest one. >> julie: the second row upper is the one we like. >> i want to know when we get the talking robot that will do the dishes. >> bill: it's coming up. stand by. in a moment a federal judge reversing a decision to deport a mother and daughter. he turned the plane around threatening jeff sessions with contempt. that story is coming up next. car replacement we'll replace the full value of your car. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ hi there.me! so, what do you look for in a vehicle? 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get clear skin that can last. ask your dermatologist about cosentyx. >> bill: fox news alert. a federal judge threatening to hold trump cabinet members in contempt as the battle of immigration takes another turn. third hour of "america's newsroom" on friday. how are you feeling? >> julie: i'm good. still going. >> bill: nice to have you in today. >> julie: good to see you, too. the threat coming after a judge stopped the deportation of a mother and daughter after learning they were put on a plane bound for central america while they were in the middle of appealing their removal. the judge ordering the justice department to bring them back calling the events that unfolded unacceptable. >> bill: doug mcelway has the story. what's going on here? >> this judge has a reputation for coming down hard on the federal government. judge emmett sullivan reminds prosecutors they are required to turn over any evidence that is favorable to a defendant. so when he found out that a defendant named carmen and her daughter were already being deported when the government had agreed not to deport them before 11:59 on thursday night judge sullivan blew his stack. it's outrageous. i'm directing the government to turn that plane around either now or when it stands. turn that plane around and bring those people back to the united states. his court order also threatened attorney general jeff sessions and dhs secretary nielsen with contempt of court. it is further ordered in the event the defendants do not fully comply with this ordered they need to appear to court to show cause why they should not be held in contempt of court. dhs said in compliance with the court's order upon arrival in el salvador the plaintiffs did not disemotion park and were promptly returned to the united states. they're plaintiffs in a lawsuit that alleges that carmen fled el salvador to seek asylum from her husband and death threats by her gang. >> bill: that's just one of several components of our immigration policy that is now being challenged in court, right, doug? >> immigration policy as it stands is tied up in knots because of legal challenges while the supreme court has ruled the trump trav el ban is legal it ended the child separation policy at the border. while lawsuits are clogging the courts, one border patrol agents says an increasing number of illegal migrants are crossing the border with children not their own. he tells fox news.com that he has reported 600 cases himself in 2018 alone. back to you. >> bill: thank you, doug, in washington, d.c. >> julie: house minority leader nancy pelosi as democrats are getting more optimistic will taking back the house. more colleagues in her own party are coming out against her amid growing concerns and questions on whether her presence will hurt democrats in crucial swing states and district. let's bring in kaley mcenany. this is not a problem for nancy pelosi. not an old problem to her. it is something that has been going on for quite some time. when democrats are concerned there is no real leadership and not in the majority what does it say for the mid-terms. >> they're messageless and leaderless. we look back at 2010, republicans spent $50 million tying democratic candidates to nancy pelosi with great success. in 2010 we took back 63 house seats. a very big deal. nancy pelosi is a huge problem for democrats and why you see more than 20 democratic candidates across the country running against nancy pelosi saying we don't want her to be speaker of the house. >> julie: you know, you not only have democrats that don't want her to be speaker of the house but people in her own party talking about the minorities she is supposed to be appealing to don't want her in office. here is a florida congressional candidate and calls nancy pelosi a traitor hispanics. let's play the clip. >> the 1996 president clinton signed something called the immigration reform law which gave the legal framework for president trump to be separating families. let me just start with those two facts. that's why president obama and nancy pelosi are traitors to hispanics. >> julie: there are more than 20 democratic candidates actively running against her. when does nancy pelosi finally get the message? >> i think by the end of this term. she will probably make a run for the minority position. i think we'll keep the house. i don't think she will have much success at this point. this party has gone so far left. they're embracing socialism. nancy pelosi is a relic of the democratic party past. julie, the problem you cite the 20 candidates. it is even in her own home state. the news took a survey of california democrats. far left california democrats. of the 34 candidates running only two were willing to say they support nancy pelosi. she is absolutely toxic. we will be using her and deploying her across the country in favor of republican candidates. >> julie: i love how she likes to call out when president trump's approval rating isn't as strong as it is today when she has a 29% approval rating herself. >> that's right. 29%, not necessarily a glowing endorsement from the american people. you ask why? look at some of the statements she has made recently saying let's solve the problem on the border by mowing the grass. yes, she said that. she called tax cuts armageddon. giving people more money is crumbs. she makes gaffes all the time. she is dragging down democratic tickets across the country. >> julie: speaking of making gaffes. alexandria ocasio-cortez discussed the leader of the democratic party which see shemd to have a little trouble addressing. let's play that. >> do you recognize her as the leader for the house democrats >> of course. i think absolutely right now, you know, she is the leader of -- i mean, speaker -- rather leader pelosi hopefully will see she is the current leader of the party and i think the party does have its leadership in the house. we have our leadership in the senate as well. >> julie: she corrected her there. i guess she is thinking is she the leader of the party she is the most well recognized or the leader in the house. we know she is not. minority leader. nonetheless to hear from her coming out which fox has invited her on this program countless times. i've reached out personally to her team and media team. they don't feel like we would be fair to her. she is selective who she speaks to. when she appears on another network she says things like that. >> surprise, surprise, a democrat trying to have it both ways as we saw with ocasio-cortez. if you make gaffes like that on cnn you have a problem. if you're a democrat that's a softball interview we just saw. she can't answer simple questions. she went on in that same interview to say that funeral costs, savings of funeral costs are what will pay for single payer. last time i checked single payer doesn't make anyone immortal. that's a laughable answer for how you pay for a $30 trillion program. she is a socialist. no logic to her answers and she needs media training. answers like that won't take her very far. >> julie: great to see you. >> bill: fascinating how you can really look at the results on tuesday night not just in ohio and various places across the country. washington state, missouri, michigan. you can make a big argument for democrats having a good night in early november and you can make an argument that republicans have a shot of holding the house. so i encourage you to check them out all online and read them force yourself. >> julie: we should dive into that >> bill: when we come back from labor day we'll be full bore. >> julie: hitting the ground running. >> bill: this campaign is well underway already. >> julie: a nail biter. >> bill: check this out. >> it is a nightmare. it is so horrible. i want it to be over. >> bill: california wildfires burning out of control forcing thousands from their homes. jonathan hunt live from the fire line in california. he is east and slightly south of los angeles. what's happening, jonathan? >> well, bill, the holy fire is exploding right now. you might remember 24 hours ago you and i were talking, bill, it had doubled in size from wednesday to thursday. from 4,000 acres to just about 9,000. well, overnight it has doubled again to something like 19,000 acres now. and here is the problem. it is creeping down the slopes of the cleveland national forest there. you can see it very clearly. we have seen bursts of flame coming up. underneath the trees you're looking at there there are blankets of flame. there is another one across to the right right now flame coming up there. you can see where we are this is maybe 200 yards up the slope from this residential neighborhood we're standing in. right now some 20,000 people have been evacuated from this area, bill, because of those flames which we saw overnight. again, rushing down these hillsides. it is a very dangerous situation. cleveland national forest firefighters are in charge of this. they tweeted today we cannot get ahead of the fire. a very simple, very stark statement from those in charge of beating back these flames admitting that right now they simply cannot do that. they're doing everything they can to protect properties. they are doing a good job in that sense. but it is an extremely dangerous situation. this was all started, by the way, according to authorities, by a 51-year-old man called forest clark. he lived in a cabin in the woods here. before he was arrested but after the fire started, he was actually caught on camera berating firefighters who were near his home accusing them of stealing money from his property. he was due in court yesterday to be charged with starting this fire. he apparently refused to leave his jail cell. not clear exactly what authorities are going to do. they can at some point force him into court and they will do that. if convicted he faces life in prison. but that legal battle is one for another day. the battle right now, bill, very much here on the front lines of the holy fire trying to stop these balls of flame coming further down these hillsides behind me and taking out these homes. one other thing i want to point out just in this neighborhood, bill. take a look at the vegetation here. the advice to homeowners is get vegetation 20 or 30 yards away from your house. this tree hanging right over the roof of two homes. i know tommy is not in a position to move the camera too much and back further up there you see more trees hanging right over homes. so if those flames or a spark get down into the street a couple hundred yards away, that's going to be a major issue for these homes. it is a dangerous situation. calm right now in terms of wind, bill, but we're told the winds are going to pick up later today and that is the worst nightmare for firefighters. >> bill: jonathan hunt, thank you, sir, very much. >> julie: 11 children found in deplorable conditions along with the body of one young boy. new drone footage giving us a better look at the squalor they called home as we learn more about the adults accused of keeping them there. >> bill: the saying of all votes count. the republican governor's primary still too close to call. >> there were over 300,000 votes cast. the margin is 191. it's very, very tight. >> bill: the incumbent cover nor jeff colyer is fighting for his political life and he is standing by on the state of the race today. you'll hear from him coming up next. >> julie: new drone footage giving a view of the compound where 11 children were found. it showed the confound covered with plastic surrounded by a wall of tires. they found the children dehydrated and underfed when they raided the compound last week. authorities discovered the body of a young boy buried nearby. five adults have been arrested, three of them are related. all are charged with child abuse and being held without bail. >> bill: it is too close to call. 91-vote difference at this hour. kansas secretary of state kris kobach recusing himself from the vote counting process. his race with governor jeff colyer has yet to be determined. we spoke to kobach yesterday at this hour and said -- this is what he said about stepping away during the vote tally. >> as a practical matter the secretary of state doesn't do anything in the counting of votes. all the provisional votes are counted by the counties. the secretary of state's office sits and watches and at the end of the day receives the tallies from the county. if i recuse myself it wouldn't make any difference. if my opponent wants me to, i will. it will be symbolic. >> bill: governor jeff colyer with me now. good morning to you. he says it is purely symbolic. all the counting happens at the county level. what do you think of the decision late yesterday on that? >> you know, i appreciate any sort of recusal. should have happened a long time ago. when a judge recuses himself he doesn't just recuse himself from the counting of the jurors' votes he recuses himself from the instructions. secretary kobach's office was instructing counties not to count ballots that are in the mail and those clearly have to be counted under kansas law. we want to make sure the law is followed and everybody who has voted that they get their vote counted. >> bill: is that allegation there is funny business going on in kansas? >> not an allegation of funny business. it is that the kansas statute says this, that if you are a busy mom and you put your mail -- you put your ballot in the mail on tuesday, as long as it has arrived by today and is in the mail, it needs to be counted. that's what we want to make sure is all of those ballots that were in the mail have been counted. other people asserted that no, those ballots don't have to be. under old kansas law, that was the case. they had to be received in the election office and his office instructed some people to not count those ballots. i want to make sure we have every ballot counted. >> bill: are you comfortable with the process now? perhaps that's the more appropriate question, yes or no. >> not entirely because there are issues that i want to make sure that all of the provisional ballots are counted appropriately where are the issues there such as independents who can become republicans given a provisional ballots. they must be counted. any ballot in the mail on tuesday needs to be counted and it has until the end of today to arrive. i just want to make sure those are all counted. we don't want to reject anybody's legal vote. >> bill: 91-vote difference. i assume that's still the margin. 10,000 absentee or provisional ballots still to be counted. that's a lot. >> that is a lot. we're trying to get the first count and make sure that everybody's appropriate vote is counted. i've been in some tight situations before and i volunteer in war zones all over the world before and it is about serving, it's about getting things done. this won't be a difficult thing. we just need to keep our chin up. follow the rules and i believe that we are going to have a victory if we follow the rules. >> bill: the county near kansas city has a lot of votes still there. one final comment here. he alleges you're the establishment candidate and saying he is all for president trump and support near the end helped him pull close with you. what do you think of that argument? >> you know, i've been a good supporter of president trump. i trust the president. he has been a good leader. we have worked very strongly with the administration. kris has a personal relationship. for me i'm interested in working for people in kansas and getting the job done. we have to win the election in november. it's not about personalities but winning the election in november. i think we're the best candidate to do that. we raised more money. we've had many endorsements across the state. >> bill: really close in kansas. see how it turns out. thank you, sir. >> julie: we like a close race. new clues in the search for missing iowa college student mollie tibbetts. she vanished more than three weeks ago. we're live in her hometown with the latest on the search next. ♪ you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast-acting, long-lasting relief, try doctor recommended gaviscon. it quickly neutralizes stomach acid and helps keep acid down for hours. relieve heartburn with fast- acting, long-lasting gaviscon. and helps keep acid down for hours. booking a flight doesn't have to be expensive. just go to priceline. it's the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40%. just tap and go... for the best savings on flights, go to priceline. on enforcing existing loitering laws. >> bill: if the groups refuse to disperse there could be arrests, not cracking down on official block parties. >> julie: for the second time this week authorities in iowa have canceled news briefings on the search for mollie tibbetts, the college student has been missing from her hometown since july 18th. the reward in the case reaching more than 300,000. police say the next update will now be on monday. matt finn is live in brooklyn, iowa, with the latest. hi, matt. >> this morning that reward has climbed to $315,000. crimestoppers tells us it's the largest reward for its organization in iowa state history. crimestoppers also telling fox news it has taken in 839 tips. they're taking all tips and leads seriously and have talked to everybody in this county. we're also learning that mollie's family plans on being at the famous iowa state fair with weekend to hand out flyers and raise awareness for mollie. about the canceled press conferences, they've been highly anticipated here because outside of them police are not answering any questions from the media or the public. so there has been a lot of anticipation for those press con conveniences and they were suddenly canceled. this morning the lead agency tells us they canceled those press conferences because they had nothing to offer the public or media but tell us they have some piece of information on monday. what that is not clear. some developments in this mystery so far mollie's boyfriend clarifying there was no sign of a struggle at the house where she was staying indicating perhaps that she was unfortunately abducted or disappeared while out on her jog on july 18th. also that pig farmer that we have seen repeatedly questioned now telling fox news he took a polygraph test and says he doesn't know the results of that test and he has specified that he has nothing to do with the disappearance of mollie tibbetts. mollie was a state champ in public speaking and speech and we are now hearing from one of her coaches and teachers. here is how he describes her. >> she was always very driven, very coordinated, super responsible. as a person, she was always caring and considerate. i read that mollie was missing and it was like a gut punch. just one of those things where one of the people that you expected to be fine was not fine. >> also want to point out we're standing on the street where mollie might have last been seen jogging. this town is between interstate 80, and just a short distance behind us. a lot of trucks and cars get on and off the interstate. everyone in this case acknowledging a stranger got off the interstate and made their way into town and maybe something terrible happened. >> julie: we don't want to but we speculate why they haven't had the news conferences. they hold them to get information out there and hope to get information back. they don't seem to need that anymore. i wonder why. >> bill: i thought they know more than they're saying. oftentimes investigations like this you hold your cards close, maybe for a reason. maybe you're on to somebody makes a mistake. we all hope and pray she is alive. matt finn, great reporting. nfl's preseason kicking off game number one. a number of players protesting during the anthem. the president saying his piece earlier today. >> julie: russia hitting back at the white house over the new sanctions. the threat out of moscow next. hey there people eligible for medicare. and i'll tell you some important things to know about medicare. first, it doesn't pay for everything. say this pizza... 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>> he is definitely behind it. so we go back to two weeks before the russian presidential elections and that's when the man was poisoned. if russia had wanted to target him in some anonymous way they could have made it appear as if it were a burglary or some such thing. they used a nerve agent and it is only used by the soviets and russians. there was a kremlin return address on this operation and putin did it deliberately for two reasons. first, he wanted to deliver a message to his own security services in advance of the election to be 100% loyal to vladimir putin or face the consequences. and then secondly, he wanted a bit of acrimony between russia and the west in anticipation of the elections. his own campaign spokesman on election night admitted there was greater turnout because of this afaifrment he portrays himself as -- wins popular support. >> it was developed by the soviets in the early 70s and a return address. putin knew the sanctions based on u.s. law must be imposed against russia, correct? >> absolutely right. he would have calculated that the cost of sanctions was worth it to him from the standpoint of his regime's security. that's how much he needs some level of acrimony with the west. remember, if he is at war with us, then all that is associated with the united states, liberty, freedom, democracy, the things that scare vladimir putin the most. i think that's why we see the downturn in relations. these were sanctions required by legislation passed in 1991. i would look for vladimir putin to try to drive a wedge between our executive and legislative branches. this was required by law but he might try to encourage our executive branch maybe to soften the blow. >> bill: here he is. we must respond to this war by economic means, political means and if necessary by other means. our american friends must understand this. how do you interpret that threat? >> that's meant to sound a little ominous but coming from the prime minister, not the president. vladimir putin can walk his way back from that statement any time he wishes. but the russians, this is the classic bargaining tool for them back in the soviet days they liked to put a boulder in the middle of the road and charge us for removing it n. this case they would like to put sanctions on the table and discuss reducing or eliminating them. to do that they need to threaten us with counter sanctions and as he said, other means besides political and economic. who knows what that might be. >> you have sanctions against russia, north korea, syria for some time now. you have the threat against turkey as well. i think the sanctions have shown to work. you think about iran right now. that economy is on its knees. you saw what happened overnight in turkey as an offshoot of the u.s. sanctions. they have internal problems as well in turkey. russia is having a lot of economic difficulty right now. how do you measure the power of the u.s. influence economically and with sanctions to be used in a way that can bend others toward your liking? >> i think sanctions have proven to be a powerful tool against russia for sure. the ruble is in free fall. russia is in pretty good company with north korea and syria, two other states that have been sanctioned for use of chemical weapons. but at the same time, the sanctions aren't going to deter russia's nefarious cyber onslaught on our country or deter their efforts to interfere in elections in western europe and impose its influence on its neighbors including ukraine. we have to try to deter and defend against those efforts with other means besides sanctions. >> bill: putin will take the hit economically. >> he will take the hit but i think he considers to be a price at this point worth paying because it's required for his regime's security. all of the -- essentially the ideological threat to him from the united states is an existential one. he is prepared to accept the economic hit. the price of oil isn't as high as it was in the previous decade. it is one of those tradeoffs. he would have been coldly calculating this one. >> bill: daniel hoffman. thank you. we'll speak again. >> julie: president trump planning -- nfl protests. several players raised fists and kneeled before games last night. is it fair to say the president's calculus is the anthem controversy is a winner for him and the gop? >> he is passionate about this issue and for that matter, julie, i think it's fair to say there are a great many americans feel equally strongly about this issue and the anthem and kneeling not just republicans. this would seem like a political winner for the president. keep this in mind as he takes his shots on twitter you want to make sure you aren't overstating your power on the issue. let me take you to the president's favorite social media platform and share a bit of what he is saying today. he said the nfl players are at it again taking a knee when they should be standing proudly for the national anthem. he says numerous players wanted to throw outrage at something that most of them are unable to define. they make a fortune doing what they love. he says this, be happy, be cool, a football game that fans are paying so much money to watch and enjoy is no place to protest. most of that money goes to the players anyone. find another way to protest. stand proudly for your national anthem or be suspended without pay. that's not nfl policy by the way. you see, players argue they aren't against the anthem or the military or law enforcement. they are simply using their platform to shine a much-needed spotlight on police brutality and other forms of abuse and discrimination. >> where we are now i think it's important that we continue to keep this conversation going. that we don't let it just die and i understand everybody is waiting to see what the league is going to do. but we don't want to stop what we've been standing up for. >> butler is suggesting no matter how much people want it to go away it won't happen anytime soon. >> julie: what is the league saying about the continued protest by the players? >> they're being careful about how they respond legally and officially. the conversation between the league and players association is ongoing. this is something they would like to avoid. let me share part of the nfl's statement issued last night after you saw a couple miami dolphins players expressing protest during the national anthem. the nfl saying the anthem will continue to be played before every game and all player and non-player personnel on the field at the time are expected to stand during the presentation of the flag and performance of the answer. personnel who do not wish to do so choose to remain in the locker room. there are some players on some teams that are actually required like the dallas cowboys to stand for the anthem. clearly the dolphins and some other teams don't require their players to do that. it is an issue that most certainly, julie, will be talked about a great deal in the months ahead. >> julie: kevin corke, thank you. >> bill: mike brown, the owner of the cincinnati bengals says sports and politics can be a tricky mix. we're choosing to keep it off the field. >> julie: viewership is down. last season the nfl did cost them fans. >> bill: a little bit. >> julie: it's a business. you have to make customers happy. >> bill: why north korea is threatening to put the brakes on getting rid of its nukes. former governor bill richardson is back. we'll talk to him live coming up next. this is not a bed. it's a revolution in sleep. the new sleep number 360 smart bed, from $999... intelligently senses your movement and automatically adjusts on each side to keep you both comfortable. and snoring? 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(duracell mnemonic) denuclearization steps take place. they want their position heard. they're positionings themselves for negotiations that are happening. this morning for instance i just talked to a group of coalition of families on the remains of our soldiers from north korea. you know, the north koreans said they would give us 200 remains. they gave us 55. they drag things out. they use bluster. the good thing, julie, about what i noticed in the statement is they kind of went after the secretary of state, high officials are not helping with their negotiating strategy. but they said something nice about president trump. not in the spirit of president trump. so they are gaming and positioning. it shouldn't be gloom and doom. >> julie: that's the whole problem here because speaking of an outdated script. they're following the same outdated script they're accusing the united states of doing. what i don't get. what's the point of is summit between kim jong-un and president trump you denuclearize and we lift sanctions, not when you feel like it. >> the issue, julie, is who goes first? i think we made a mistake by saying to the north koreans we'll go first and stop our military exercises with south korea. now it's your turn. well, what has north korea done? not much. remains are important. we got 55. they haven't taken significant steps. they blew up a missile site. they haven't had any detonation of their nuclear weapons. that's semi positive. but they want to know that it's a step-by-step. if they do something minor, they want some sanctions relieved. sanctions are hurting them. >> julie: so then following the summit here we are today. u.s. intelligence officials say they believe north korea was deceiving the u.s. and bolstering production for nuclear weapons at multiple secret sites in recent months. that's the fear of what might happen and why john bolton was against the summit to begin with. what happens next? if we feel like we've been had by north korea where do you go? >> well, i think what this message that the north koreans are sending and secretary pompeo has been there three times is that negotiations with the north koreans, they're always tough. they cheat, they change positions. they are positioning themselves for advantage. they want sanctions lifted before they take significant steps. so the message is we have to keep going. it's that important for the international community, for our interests, our troops, our alliances with japan and south korea but just know what the president came out with, a complete denuclearization of north korea, that won't happen. this will be tough. they're tough like they were with the clinton administration, with the bush administration. so negotiating with them is not easy but it is worth pursuing. we have to stay on it. >> julie: all right. i believe the president intends on doing just that. bill richardson, thank you so much. >> bill: nice to see you, harris and melissa coming up on "outnumbered" friday edition. you're cooking up something hot. >> bob goodlatte is preparing subpoenas for justice department officials and others who were connected to the unconfirmed anti-trump dossier. will lawmakers get answers? the nfl is back and so is kneeling during the national anthem. the president tweeting about it. is he right that football games are no place for such protests? >> a juicy discussion. the young socialist who is the so-called future of the democratic party ducking an offer to debate a conservative commentator even after he threw $10,000 in the mix for charity her way. did her response cross the line? >> bill: have a great weekend. nasa is about to take a closer look at the sun. the new mission set to launch coming up. it looks like jonathan on a date with his wife. ♪ la-di-la-di. entresto is a heart failure medicine that helps your heart... so you can keep on doing what you love. in the largest heart failure study ever, entresto was proven superior at helping people stay alive and out of the hospital. it helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren, or if you've had angioedema with an ace or arb. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto for heart failure. yeah! entrust your heart to entresto. ♪ the beat goes on. thanks, janet. it's welcomemy happy place. store. you can learn how to switch to xfinity mobile, a new wireless network that saves you cash. and you can get 5 lines of talk and text included with your internet. and over here i'm having my birthday party. dj fluffernutter, hit it! ♪ dj fluffernutter simple. easy. awesome. ask how to get $300 back when you sign up for xfinity mobile, and purchase a new samsung phone. visit your local xfinity store today. hour. faster than any spacecraft that has ever been launched on launch pad 37b the look at the delta 4 heavy with its three big first stage boosters on the bottom and a third stage booster on top. one of the most powerful rockets on the planet. everything about the mission is hot. the first mission flying a spacecraft into a star, in this case our sun. with the parker solar probe gets there it will barrel in within four million mile within the sun's burning corona what you see during a solar eclipse. scientists are banking its carbon heat shield will protect it from the 2500 degrees fahrenheit. there are scientific instruments sending back realtime data of something we've previously studied from afar. the expectations are revolutionary. >> by understanding how our star works, we can also start to explain how other stars work. they have interstellar winds and stellar storms and there may be planets orbiting them that could actually be habitable. >> it will take seven years for the probe to get as close as it is going to get to the sun. slingshot around venus's gravity seven times. 3:33 eastern time tomorrow morning it will be launched and it should be spectacular. >> julie: a surprise delay in the trial of paul manafort. that case supposed to get underway about 2 1/2 hours ago. the reason for the hold-up we'll tell you next. - why are drivers 50 and over switching to - i know when i'm driving, i'm covered. - [narrator] drivers 50 and over can save hundreds of dollars when they switch to the aarp auto insurance program from the hartford and get other incredible benefits like lifetime renewability. not an aarp member? 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