job, said he assumed she was because she was hired but he s not producer that hires the crew. that could be important point as the investigation continues and question of liability comes up, don. he also made the point, sort of stressing he found it unsettling that two people, the lighting technician and another woman on the set filed civil lawsuits. he thought the husband of halyna hutchins, matthew, should have been able to file a lawsuit first. don. just a mess all around. lucy will continue to report on it until we get the answers. thank you very much. joining me now, sharon waxman and dutch merrick, a propmaster. i appreciate both of you joining us. alec baldwin is asking how a live bullet ended up in that gun.
filmmaking is the armorer has custody of the gun and ammunition at all times. and chain of custody is what i meant, in the chain of custody, did you see a problem with that? yeah. why was the in the affidavit i read, said the first a.d. handed the gun to baldwin on the set. why was that? why was the first a.d. acting as armorer. the armor reports she was not allowed on the set because of too many bodies. should never be allowed to happen. armorer should be last to hand it off to actor and be there all times when it s in action. dutch, you and sharon, stick by, we have more of the observe. alec was criticized for not checking the gun. we ll hear his response and much
undo what happened. that s breaking news, alec baldwin speaking out about the shooting on set of the movie rust who killed the cinematographer halyna hutchins and wounded another. sharon waxman and dutch merrick. if your protocol is checking the gun every time, good for you. i probably handled weapons as much as any other actor in films, with an average career. again, shooting or being shot by some. in that time i had protocol that never let me down. why did you choose in 40 years not to check the gun yourself? when i was taught by someone, years ago, was if i took a gun and popped a clip out of a gun or manipulated the chamber they would take the gun away and redo
armorer said i didn t do it, who would do it. and people pointing fingers saying it couldn t have happened, yet it did happen. one thing i ll point out, we reported very early on that people had taken the guns off the set during the day and gone shooting at cans in the desert, plinking, and brought the guns back. i have not heard that account knocked down, confirmed, anything. but i don t think anybody really thinks that somebody was out to sabotage, seems to be remote conspiracy theory that s out there, baldwin was asked about that, said much more likely an accident. but seems very strange thing that everyone seems to agree was impossible to happen and yet it happened. dutch, you ve been watching this, this is your expertise, your field. watching that interview, what did you think? talk to me.
responsibility and had jobs in this production, when they go on the record they seem to say everything was great. but that really just doesn t add up, when you look at what was going on, when you look at the emails and texts, the documentation of people who were unhappy on the set. it s possible there were some people on the set perfectly happy. but there certainly were people who raised concerns about safety and not just about the accommodations that the crew was having to live with. dutch, this is your business. you re in los angeles, in hollywood. what has this done i m sure it s reverberated around the industry. what has happened since this accident? well, it s shaken us. really shaken us to the core because this is just an example of a really bad actor not actor in the acting sense, but someone doing something that s bad.