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live from denver tuesday, october 7th. no promises on the raps though. that's it for "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid from lake charles. greta goes "on the record" right now. we'll see new washington tomorrow. this is a fox news alert. isis a threatening attacks on subways an trains right here in the united states. the iraq prime minister tipping us off warning the terror threat might be imminent the most terrifying part of this warning is the attack has not been stopped. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us. >> what's scary about this story is the details provided by the iraqi prime minister are extremely specific. he said he got information from baghdad that individuals had been arrested. they were members of isis. there was a plot to attack the subway systems in paris and also the united states. and that the operatives who are not iraqis, they were american and french nationals. once this hit the wires, what you saw here in washington was a pretty rapid response this information had not been passed to the u.s. government formal channels and they were unaware of this information. >> has everyone been arrested in this little group that had no idea? >> the iraqi prime minister, again, this is what has my attention is the the specificity. when people speak very generally, there is not always a lot of truth to it. but he is talking with a number of specifics. he says we have arrested individuals but they are part of a network. so we don't believe that the threat or the plot has been completely thwarted. >> why doesn't the united states know about this? sort of a. >> there are a couple -- sorry to just jump. in there are a couple of explanations. one that it's just bogus information, okay? it's bogus information -- >> -- and we're vulnerable to that right now. >> well, it's bogus information and because of that it was not passed through these proper or traditional government channels. number two is that there could have been what i would call sort of a ships passing in the night situation is which is the iraqi prime minister gets the information from baghdad. is he is at the u.n. he is surrounded by reporters. and there is not really a filter. he releases the information, and it hasn't had a chance to get into the government channels. but the bottom line is that episode underscores the fact that everyone understands isis, their ambition is to hit the united states, if they can and do it domestically. >> catherine, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> so, why haven't u.s. officials confirmed the isis terror plot to take place on u.s. soil? and what does iraqi intel know he that we don't? representative peter king is on the homeland security committee, he joins us. good evening, sir. >> hi, greta, how are you? >> very well. prior to today's announcement from the iraqi prime minister, had you heard anything about a plot to hit new york or paris subways? >> no, i didn't. and from talking to everyone that i know in the intelligence and law enforcement community today, it seems to be no evidence to substantiate what the prime minister has said. and i mean, there is nothing coming from iraqi intelligence, as far as i know, the fbi, homeland security, nypd, now this would have involved a subway attack in new york, remember, we have 140 government leaders in new york this week, including every major world leader has been here. and so obviously you would have thought that somebody would have contacted the nypd and baghdad would have made this known. right now it appears it's misinformation. obviously it's going to be examined and you can be sure that our people are in very close contact with the intelligence agencies in baghdad. >> i guess i would love to believe that and then i sort of think is this bogus? but then i think look our intelligence people didn't catch 9/11. they didn't catch the terror plot in times square until that happened. the underwear bomber, he was allowed to bomb a plane with buying a oneway ticket without any baggage. it's like on the one hand i don't want to be an alarmist, on the other hand, there is some really bad things that have slipped through the cracks with our intelligence service. >> oh, no, that can always happen. you don't know what you don't know. but, in this case if there were more to it, you would think that baghdad intelligence would have immediately told our intelligence agencies and they have their own prime minister in new york the city that could have been attacked. you would have thought again what should have happened is and in fact happens the 8999 out of 1,000 times. when a nation finds something like this or thinks they find something, even if it's a tip or hint, they elm my i can't tellly pass it immediately pass it on to the intelligence communities affected. what i can find out the cia, fbi, homeland security nobody was notified by baghdad of anything. in fact, their prime minister was in the city at a time when they felt, according to him that there could be an attack on new york. it doesn't add up. but, again, everything has to be checked out. >> all right. well i guess it would make a big difference to me i sort of guess as to whether this is real or not. frankly we are in a position where we have to guess, regrettably. does the u.s. get like a bunch of these scary alerts like five a day so that this is just one of many or is this unusual so that maybe, you know, give it more attention? >> no. we get quite a few. you get people who come to embassies around the world. some have been reliable in the past. some haven't. they will come in and say they think there is going to be an attack in such and such location. that happened several years ago before 9/11, the 10th anniversary of 9/11 we got information there was going to be attack on ground zero of 9/11 itself. it was all person alert in new york for those two days before and the day itself. and as it turned out it was either bogus or the plot was called back. but, again, we can't take anything for granted. every hint, every tip is tracked down. and in addition to that though. comes too late. certainly the christmas day bombing. the times square bombing. we should have certainly with the christmas day bombing we he should have known more. but, again, all annualized and is looked at and also for the prime minister to -- the last thing he should have done is mentioned it publicly before he had told the american government. you would think something as serious as this he wouldn't mention to a bunch of reporters on a street corner. >> that is curious indeed. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> very unnerving subway plot in the u.s. what could be done to prevent these attacks? next agent terrorism task force jonathan guilliams. thank you, sir. >> good to be here. >> says this is a specific attack on a subway in new york and paris. how do we find out whether this is the real deal and what do we do? >> well, contrary to what a lot of people would think actually have a specific threat will help the investigation because it gives us specific sources that we he can query. it let's us look at specific groups that the threat may be coming from. so, basically what you will see now is ramp up the sources that data base checks and we'll see overall the joint terrorism task force, the dod intel groups will see if they can find any chatter or sources that they may know about this. at the same time see state and local law enforcement really amp up if they need to their security at those specific sites. >> what i find troubling right now is i think we are particularly vulnerable to panic. we just had two americans beheaded. a tourist has been beheaded. an aide worker has been beheaded. there has been a woman in iraq. human rights activist who was just tortured and killed. we are pretty vulnerable and dropping bombs in syriaened a iraq. who do we know? i mean, how does law enforcement, you new york, i can'te you get lots of chase everything down every second. what do we do? >> let's look at it in a way everybody can understand. bank robberies happen all the time in the united states. but you're not -- you don't see people panicked and running out of a bank because of fear. you have to be smart. you have to know that these things can happen. it's a gambling game. you know, the terrorists, they have the odds in their favor because no matter what defense we set up, they have the ability to wait, look at it, and go around it you know, it's similar to a bank, you have to it be aware when you go in there there is always potential but you have to go there. if you have to go to work and take the subway. beaware. i'm sorry, go ahead, greta. >> you can be on a subway and 30 feet underground and between two stops and all of a sudden you think the person next to you has a package of c 4 plastic. you are really out of luck at that point. >> however say you are not out of luck like in spain when the bombs went off. you had individuals getting off. this is on video, they are riding the escalator. turn around and look. i hear a bomb go off i'm running, unfortunately those people the next bomb went off and killed them. >> and, of course, it's not the old days where you need a big fighter plane or bomber who drop a bomb on something. one person can do an awful lot of damage. >> one person seeing it and notifying somebody be can always make or break that know it, nothing can beat an aware human at beating a terrorist attack. >> we all feel deposit pew advertised by 9/11 to speak up or i hope so if we see something peculiar. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> british counter terrorism officials announcing the arrest of nine suspects in ongoing investigation. grn reporter chris walker joins us right now. chris, what happened in the uk? >> well, an early whoop, 18 houses. one of our leading muslim fanatical preachers arrested. and strangely, in comparison with you, i mean, we have got the arrest but we haven't got the targets. nobody has been suggesting there is an immediate attack threatened on the london underground, though that has happened before. but these people have been absolutely outspoken in support of isis. really saying the most terrible things in public about how they are not going to defend our hostages still alive and how muslims should kill christians and such like this has been cleaning up operation. i think it's probably not circumstantial that's it's happened along with what's threatened in paris and washington there is bound to be blow back. next 48 hours it looks like. i suspect we will be getting our threats too. >> chris, we only have 30 seconds left. i'm curious why does the uk seem to be such a breeding ground for a lot of these terrorists? >> very good question. the answer is i think we have got very little control over the mosques. there is the language, of course. and in fact, we have got huge numbers of them who live here. and seem to be very, very unrestricted in their movements. there is a growing feeling about this. how is this happening? we have heard three killed by us air strikes in iraq and syria this week. that's three brits. that's a huge percentage. chris thank you. breaking now, barbaric masked man speaking english with british accent and blaming the united states and england in the video showing beheadings of a two americans and. they will not reveal the executioner's name. the u.s. and allies still pounding isis, launching at least 200 air strikes targeting isis in syria and iraq. the troubling question, is this enough? >> baghdad is still relatively secure. i mean, there has been a couple of minor ied attacks inside baghdad, but the isf, the iraqi security forces in and around the capitol are still defending the capitol. it's not like isil has not posed a threat there. >> oliver north good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> i'm concerned with us and isis and whether it is spreading. >> i think catherine's comment about how we came to know this threat about washington -- new york and paris transportation infrastructure is always going to be a prime target visuals are compelling. they are savvy knowing how to use that to their advantage. if you are riding in beltway. silver lining goes out. goes over the beltway and if you think about somebody getting something like two brothers, assembled in boston before a marathon and carried that on to a subway leaving town. you would have a visual that would be very, very effective as a recruiting tool for the most radical jihadists on this planet. here is the problem with what we are doing. we are giving them a safe haven of 15 to 16 hours a day because we're only bombing at night. now, the idea, of course, is to take out targets of opportunity. what we really need to have is 24/7 coverage up over top of syria. if we are going disrupt and disable and eventually destroy isis, you can't just do it with nighttime strikes. >> then why aren't we doing 24. >> i'm hoping somebody will ask admiral cure buy that because he is after all an admiral. why we don't have a second strike group out in the mediterranean and the persian gulf. you cannot maintain a sustained air operation. the talk missiles being launched on the screen. you can't do it without more ships. >> we're also told you can't do it without boots on the ground. i'm not advocating that if you are saying we don't have a 24/7 air power and even if we did that wouldn't do the job? >> no. ultimately, someone, rough men with rifles have to go to take terrain, capture bad guys and free hostages. cannot do it with airplane. unfortunately, we have got a mystical belief in the power of aircraft dropping bombs precision guided munitions. i mean, look at those visuals that we are getting out of the pentagon. i mean, goes right down and takes out the antenna. building kind of stuff. the bottom line of it is if we are going to take the fight to disrupt them before we destroy them, somehow with 5,000 people trained in 10 to 12 months in saudi arabia. will now have to go back into the fight against not only isis but also against al assad. i don't see how this works. i mean, i had it described to me yesterday by a former marine general as there is not a snow ball's chance in hell of this succeeding the way it's being fought. >> that's encouraging, i say very sarcastically. >> sorry. >> thank you. nice to he see you. >> and developing now, those barbaric islamic exextreme i.s, strike again. not a journalist, an aide worker or a tourists. isis in mosul, iraq, kidnapping, tortures and publicly executing a female iraqi human rights lawyer. her name is samira. executed the wife and mother after ruling she had abandoned islam. and marine sergeant andrew tahmooressi still stuck in a mexican prison for accidently turning into mexico with guns in his truck, now two other marines have a plan to get president obama's help, pretty unusual but did their plan work? 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>> well, first of all, forget the numbers. stop looking at them. the president. >> maybe he isn't looking at them. that was just, you know, my. >> yeah. well, if he is, and i'm confident he is this president polls too much. pays too much attention to the polls. stop looking. is he a war time leader. whether he likes it or not. his numbers are bad because, and they are not recently bad, the last time his favorability outnourished unfankt was essentially 53 weeks ago. and the president has been upside down since then. when putin moved in to crimea and then began messing with ukraine. when isis spread across northwestern iraq. president obama began to have real deep problems with how people viewed his ability to handle foreign affairs, terrorism and whether or not he was a strong leader. so, excuse me. his problem is that people are looking at his policies and saying they don't work and he is not a strong leader. work on getting the right policy and be a strong, effective leader and the poll also take care of them. it's been a long time coming it will be a long time getting out. tell me if i'm right or wrong on this. when there is a foreign policy crisis, the party in power does a little bit better. i mean, that's a terrible thing to say. a crisis and foreign policy and americans sort of rally behind the leader. >> yeah, there is temporarily and i suspect the president is going to see a little bit of upward movement at some point but probably not a lot and maybe not at all for the following reasons. people don't think that he is a strong leader. he has got this great irony that about 60% of the people support bombing syria. 70% of the people support bombing isis in iraq. 60 o% think the president is not stroong leader and 38% approval rating on handling foreign affairs and a 41% approval rating on handling terrorism. there is a gap between they sort of like the policy but they are not certain it's going to succeed. but they think he is weak and feckless and not a strong leader and those things are going to take a long time to change because they have been basically six years in the making. >> what is your thought on attorney general eric holder announcing that he will be resigning as soon as the president finds a replacement? >> i think it's good for the country, good for the justice department. attorney general holder has been a partisan hack. he has not been the independent attorney general that we are -- or somewhat independent attorney general that we expect. from the moment that he came into the office, until the moment he finally departs. he has done very little except things that advocate -- advance the political agenda of the administration. and pit american against american. i cannot believe that one the first things he did when he came into office was to dismiss the lawsuit against the black panther party which was caught on video brandishing clubs and threatening voters outside of philadelphia voter places and one of the first things he did was dismiss the lawsuit against them for interfering with an election. that set the tone it and we have only seen it continued for the last six years. you know, thank you for your service, mr. attorney general but frankly good riddance. >> karl, thank you for joining us. >> you bet. thank you. >> and as noted, attorney general eric holder stepping down from his post and al sharpton saying on his web site that he, al sharpton has engaged in media conversations with the white house on deliberation over holder's replacement. really? 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june 2012. the house of representatives holding the attorney general in contempt amid the fast and furious gun running scandal. >> we're only asking the attorney general to turn over documents directly related to false statements made to ghong a coverup. >> accusations that attorney general holder brushed aside. >> truly absurd. truly absurd conspiracy theories. >> may 2013, the justice department caught with phone records from the associated press and days later, fox news james rosen named as a co-conspirator in a leak investigation and just weeks ago, the attorney general calling himself an activist saying is he proud of it and then, sparking outrage one more time with these remarks about his critics. >> there is a certain racial component to this for some people. i don't think this is the thing -- a main driver but for some there is a racial anus. >> and now reverend al sharpton claiming is he advising the white house on the a.g. holder's replacement. is there any truth to that joining us weekly panel john mccormick and "the washington post" jackie kucinich and byron york. that's what he he puts first, byron, on his web site today national action network he was engaged in conversations with the white house about the successor. then he backed down. >> hope that's not true. >> i think a lot of people probably hope that's not true. >> i think that is the case that eric holder who is an historic attorney general, first black attorney general will go down as the civil rights attorney general from. >> over bobby kennedy? >> yes, i think so. from the very beginning. >> i don't think so. a picture of him hung in his office. >> from the very beginning with the nation of cowards remark. all the way to ferguson at the end. this has been something that the attorney general focused on the civil rights division. some of his most memorable actions were in that area. including not enforcing the law. remember, he chose not to enforce the defense of marriage act. he took arizona as you mentioned in the piece to court to stop the enforcement of the immigration law. so he was somebody with an an agenda and when that involved not forcing the law he didn't do it? >> i don't think he will go down in history as the civil rights attorney general. i think that goes to bobby kennedy. i debelabor that which the justice department is named after. your thought on holder. >> one of the things you mentioned bobby kennedy he called ethel kennedy bobby kennedy's widow to tell her he was stepping down that was one of the people. obviously he was very much following bobby kennedy's legacy and i think among certain people i agree with byron go with sentencing reform what did he to calm down ferguson, missouri when he went there. of course, there is the other side of this. a lot of the things you mentioned. >> what about, john, is al sharpton, could he truly be involved in part of this discussion of who the next attorney general is? >> i have no idea. but the big -- >> -- he thinks he is apparently. >> the big criticism of eric holder is that he was one of the most politicized and partisan attorney generals in history. there are a lot of scandals out there and controversies. i think the very worst from a legal standpoint was his decision not to vigorously defend the defense of marriage act which was a law signed into law by the president. the job of the attorney general isn't to be a judge. it's to be the advocate. he failed at that in 2009. the defense didn't really give a vigorous defense and again in 2011. independent at all. as attorney general you are not supposed to defend the laws that you like or the laws that your donors like. you are supposed to defend the law. he didn't do that that's a terrible precedent going forward. >> we should throw the irs in there too. just last week lois lerner gave a long interview to politico. i believe she would not have felt comfortable doing that had she not been pretty sure that the justice department was not really on her tail. and the justice department ended that investigation apparently gone absolutely nowhere even as congress has found out all sorts of damaging revelations about it. >> all right. well already we got a statement from the attorney general the state of california she says she is honored to even be mentioned. apparently her name was out there. basically she says she wants to stay in california. i don't know why we got a statement from her. i'm going to issue my statement next. anyway, thank you all. >> let's all go off-the-record for main. this is really messed up. i had no idea about this until yesterday, that the white house, not the press, but the white house distributes the white house print pool reports. here is how it works. each day, the print pool reporters follow the president around and write reports to the entire media before the entire media gets those reports, the white house reviews them and it is the white house that sends the reports out to everyone in the media now, i had no idea. i thought the pool sent the pool reports directly to everyone in the media but why is the white house seeing or reviewing the reports first? that's a little bit like sending the fox out to guard the chicken coop. i learned even more. on occasion, it could be rare, the white house doesn't like some of the condition tent in the pool reports. the white house pressures the print pool to change them. and in some instances, the pool has. that's really bad. that is so messed up. so much for freedom of the press, right? and besides the review, why is the white house in the business of distributing pool reports? it can't be costs? media organizations are so rich they can pay for it themselves. it sure can't be white house technical know how. remember healthcare.gov? i don't know but. i think this is really messed up we wonder why no one trusts the media? that's my off-the-record comment tonight. and an american pastor beaten and in prison in iran just for being a christian. locked away for 700 days now. the pastor's wife and reverend franklin graham are here now with a plan to get him out. this is holly. her long day of outdoor adventure starts with knee pain. and a choice. take 6 tylenol in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. onward! before using her new bank of america credit card, which rewards her for responsibly managing her card balance. before receiving $25 toward her balance each quarter for making more than her minimum payment on time each month. tracy got the bankamericard better balance rewards credit card, which fits nicely with everything else in life she has to balance. that's the benefit of responsibility. apply online or visit a bank of america near you. [ male announcer ] when your office is 1,500 acres, it's good to have the right help. with models up to 62 horsepower or 1,400-pound payload. go tough. go strong. go gator. an american pastor sitting in prison in iran just because is he a christian. tomorrow marks two years since the iranians grabbed him and locked him up. now reverend franklin graham is joining the pastor's wife in leading a prayer in front of the white house. they are calling for the american christian pastor's release and urging president obama it to help free him. reverend franklin graham and reverend abedino joins us now. have you had any contact with your husband at all in prison, lately. >> his family gets to visit him every wednesday and last i heard his mom got to visit him. >> his condition is what? >> he couldn't sit through the whole 20 minute visitation, which is rare. last time they saw him last week and he had to walk out halfway, about 10 minutes into it because of internal pain he h he still has some kind of wound or you ulcer that keeps opening up and injuries that have happened mainly because ever first few months of beatings because the first few months of interrogation that he was told if he denies christ, and returns to islam, he would be he freed. >> reverend franklin graham, he is just a christian. i mean, that's the whole reason he is sitting in prison for years. what do you want to do? what do you hope to accomplish? >> he is in prison because he believes that jesus christ is god's son and that jesus died for our sins upon the cross and was buried for our sins and that god raised him to life and because he believes this, he has been beaten, he has been tortured, imprisoned for two years. and he is an american citizen. he is born in iran but he is an american. and they are torturing him and beating him and trying to get him to recant his faith in christ. and i'm wanting to help, greta, to draw attention to this. i'm so grateful that you have allowed us to come on your program today to talk about it. >> yesterday, president obama was before the u.n. general assembly and he had praise for, i guess, what he would call moderate muslims. and he -- then he spoke about extremism as well. what's your thought about whether or not president obama can help in a situation, whether he is helping? >> no question he can help. he is the president of the united states. and he does have great power and great influence. right now, america is trying to get iranian support for their fight against isis. we need, bto talk to the iranians about support for isis. we need to say hey, we want all the americans to come home. sid abedino is one of several being held there the president can do it and we just, i think, the white house responds to pressure. if there is enough people who pick up the phone and call, if enough constituents pick up the phone and call, send emails, it will get the attention of the white house. otherwise, they don't seem to be bother him. >> it's been two years though. tomorrow marks the two year date when her husband was picked up by the iranians. >> again, greta, it's for his faith. no other reason. the president has said that islam was a religion of peace. he said that yesterday in his statement before the general assembly. if it truly is a religion of peace, then why are they holding a man and beating him and torturing him because of his faith in jesus christ? if islam really is a religion of peace i call on the iranian president to let him come home to his wife, to his children and quit torturing him. quit beating him and traying to get him to renounce his lord and savior, jesus christ. >> and you nod your head yes. >> i agree. it's been two years. to some it's been over 700 days for a family seeing my kids cry every night. reverend graham has been a father figure for the kids and i, a great support. i can't say enough of his support. but it's time to get him home. two years a long enough. we are talking to the iranians. they are condemning isis for beheading christians but they are holding someone, an american citizen in their prison simply for being christian. it's time to bring him home. >> well, reverend graham, good luck and i hope that, you know, two years is way too long. two years is too long but right now it's like i don't, you know, i wish we could do something more for him. >> thank you, greta. >> thank you. >> and tonight, major developments in the case of missing uva opportunity hannah graham. our team son the ground. a live update is next. introducig a pm pain reliever that dares to work all the way until the am. new aleve pm the only one with a safe sleep aid. plus the 12 hour strength of aleve. last person seen uva student charged and in custody. jesse matthews in bars after being arrested in texas. who is jesse matthew? our own griff jenkins spoke with weekly's courtney stuart. >> is he a man that was born here, 32 years old. came through the local public schools. working locally at the university of virginia hospital as a patient technician in the operating room. a football player in high school and then beyond. involved in the sport and playing for a local adult league, a semiprofessional team. also was a volunteer coach for a private christian school nearby. so, that is something that we have learned about him. well known by a lot of people. i have been speaking with some friends who are describing him as, you know, a nice guy. somebody that they have spent a lot of time with over the years. >> he was involved with a high school football team? >> he was involved, right, with the covenant high school team. it's a christian private school. has a pretty good football team. a number of people on the coaching staff. my understanding is he was a volunteer assistant coach. >> what do you want to have answered the most. >> the biggest thing everybody wants to know is where is hannah graham. of course we all would do anything to make this case come to a happy ending and find her and have some miracle, you know, happen where she is okay and family gets her back and university and friends get her back. that is obviously what we would all like. a resolution to what happened regardless i think is also important so that people can move forward. >> but the horrible question remains where is hannah? "on the record" ted williams is live with the latest in charlottesville. what is the latest in the search for hannah graham? as you know they all have jesse matthews found 1300 miles away from here. he has waived extradition. on his way back here. maybe will help out in this investigation. of course us a you know, greta, he has already lawyered up. >> ted, the chief of police mentioned in news in the car indicate whether she was in the car or whether she might have been hurt in the car? >> no. greta, that was asked of the chief of police and tim longo, who is a superb chief of police is keeping a lot of information rightfully so close to his vest. but he is doing all he can to put out information. there is now a$100,000 reward for anyone who can help bring hannah home. >> and in terms of the search still searching the whole area or abandoned search? >> absolutely not. they are searching everywhere they can. buildings, streams, water ways. is he asked the various farmers to walk their land and see if, in fact, they can find hannah graham or if she is there on their land. it's a blanket search, greta. >> ted, thank you. >> and coming up, two marines are doing what they can to make sure fellow marine sergeant andrew tahmooressi is not left behind in a mexican prison. find out what the two marines did. that's next. don't forget to watch hannity tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. democratic congressman adam smith debates two benghazi smith debates two benghazi security team members., hannity. e starts to relieve my pain in 30 minutes. plus, sensitivity to light and sound, even nausea. excedrin migraine works. know that chasing performance and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. ♪ want to change the world? create things that help people. design safer cars. faster computers. smarter grids and smarter phones. think up new ways to produce energy. ♪ be an engineer. solve problems the world needs solved. what are you waiting for? changing the world is part of the job description. 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>> scott says publicly shaming for sure. don says used to be going to jail was public shaming. >> amy says i prefer neither. that's why i follow the law. >> very good, amy. >> "fox & friends first" is going to begin shortly -- >> "fox & friends," you mean. >> thanks for watching. good morning. it is monday, september 22. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. police issue an arrest warrant for a person of interest in the case of missing university of virginia student hannah graham. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> plus this morning her emotional parents speaking out for the very first time. >> meanwhile, another fox news alert. three afghan soldiers who were visiting a military training camp here in this country in massachusetts are missing this morning. where are they? and what kind of a threat do they pose to anybody around there? >> plus this will make your monday. a look at what happens when dogs go under water. yeah. they keep their eyes open, one thing is clear. mornings are better with friends. watch this animation. >> welcome aboard, folks. it's official. say so long to sun screen and hello pumpkin spice latte. today is the first day of fall. >> you make it sound good with the latte. >> put it this way, if you were outside yesterday i think it's time to keep your muscle t-shirts out and your tight little shorts available because i believe that the weather is not giving up on the summer. >> you think there's still tanning potential? >> that's what i'm saying. if you wear your liner in your jacket, i think you're going to be sweaty. >> where did you spend your sunday? at hooters? >> just sayin'. >> i'm just sayin' too. keep your tight little shorts? >> don't judge me. >> it is the autumnal equinox today, first day of fall and we start with a fox news alert. that person of interest in the case of missing student hannah graham now a wanted man. police in charlottesville, virginia, issued an arrest warrant for jesse matthew. ainsley earhardt joins us with the details. ainsley, didn't the police talk to him for a minute? >> yeah, they did. but now the virginia state police, they're on the hunt again for this guy. his name is jesse matthew. they have a warrant for his arrest charging him with reckless driving. police say over the weekend matthew, who is a person of interest in the disappearance of university of virginia student 18-year-old hannah graham, walked into a police station, spoke to a lawyer, then got into a car and sped away. police looking for anybody that might have seen this car last friday or saturday. meantime police still know very little about matthew's interaction with graham the night she disappeared. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. because it's been a week and we can't find her. but somebody knows where she is. >> graham went missing more than a week ago. she was last seen on surveillance video walking into a restaurant with a man believed to be matthew. hannah's parents making an emotional plea to the public. >> this is every parent's worst nightmare. i'm certain that everybody in this room and those watching knows that what happened to hannah could happen to their child. >> more than 1,200 people spent their weekend searching for hannah. police say they will keep searching until they find her. the miss chief, chief longo, says he doesn't want to get tunnel vision just focusing on one person, on matthew. the chief adds he believes someone knows where hannah graham is and hopefully they will find her. back to you. >> family holding out hope. this also developing yoaf night. a search underway at this hour for three afghan soldiers who disappeared while visiting the united states. peter doocy is live in washington. good morning to you, peter. what and how much of a threat does this pose at the time? >> elisabeth, nobody has seen these three afghan soldiers since saturday night when they were spotted about 20 miles from joint base cape cod at the cape cod mall in hyannis, a normal enough collection of stores that also has a movie theaters and chain restaurants. one of the missing soldiers is a major. the other two are captains. they were in the united states for u.s. central command regional cooperation exercise, which is a big event that involves 200 people from five countries including 12 soldiers from afghanistan. this event has been going on since 2004 but right now the military is working with local police forces to figure out where these three are. >> each hour that goes by gets a little more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody, as time goes on it gets more concerning. the other thing is are they the victims of some t violent act. hopefully they extended their weekend and at some point will show up at the base tonight or be found by folks. >> so far we don't have any reason to believe these three missing afghan soldiers are dangerous. they arrived on september 11 in and a massachusetts national guards spokesman is saying these are senior-ranked soldiers who had permission to come to the u.s. for this event. >> peter, there's always the possibility they simply don't want to go back to afghanistan; right? >> nobody knows. all that they know is they were at the mall. they could have been doing anything. they got stuff from abercrombie to chipotle there. they could have been going for dinner. nobody knows. >> i'll take cape cod over kabul any day. maybe they're realizing that. >> let me ask you this question. what do hillary clinton, former c.i.a. director, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and now former defense secretary leon panetta have in common? they all suggested president obama arm syrians back in 2012 to avoid the situation we are now in called isis. leon panetta spoke on "60 minutes" about how he now is being vocal and why president obama's foreign policy is not sitting well with him. >> the real key was how can we develop a leadership group among the opposition that would be able to take control. and my view was to have leverage to do that. we would have to provide the weapons and the training in order for them to really be willing to work with us in that effort. but with virtually his entire national security team unanimous on this, that's not the decision the president made. >> i think the president's concern -- and i understand it -- was that he had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was you have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> the free syrian army needed to be supplied. senator john mccain, lindsey graham said that. it turns out heend -- behind the scenes his whole staff was saying that and the president decided not to do that after taking a walk with somebody. i think it might have been valerie jarrett. so leon panetta, as he sells a book -- i'm interested in that book because he has been a voice of reason in two different situations in very important times. however, you wonder if things had been different if he found a way to do what colin powell did, leak his views through the press. >> leon panetta in the premier of "60 minutes" said we should have armed the rebels back then. he also said he wishes we would have had a residual force there of 8,000. that would have turned the tide and prevent maliki, the guy running the country, headed in the right direction. he went off the rails and now we're all screwed up over there. meanwhile, king abdullah, here in new york city for the u.n. general assembly that starts this week, told scott pelly as well that isis could have been stopped. listen. >> could the rise of isis have been prevented? >> they could have been prevented if the international community worked harder together to make sure that funding and support to the original groups in syria were not allowed to get to the extent that they were. >> the international community, the united states intervened too late? >> i think we could have done a better job in making sure that earlier on it was identified who the bad people were and action by the international community was taken not to allow that to happen. >> a haunting statement right there by king abdullah. when you hear leon panetta say this will take a long time, reiterating the fact that it will take years and years, perhaps longer, to get rid of isis, they're still funding, they're taxing, receiving donations. they have troops of 40,000 being aided by up to 100,000, according to kurdish intelligence collaborating with them. and that is why the time is now on the other side. >> here's the other thing. jordan almost doubled their population with the syrian refugees and they set up this village in the middle of the desert in between the two countries so it's directly affecting them. if king abdullah said that -- and i understand the president's view that he's afraid of arms getting in the wrong hands, clearly now it would have been a lot better to take that risk. let's see jordan take some troops. let's see egypt take troops. let them start fighting. saudi arabia has to do more than have a base area where the syrian army can train for a year. >> allowing the sunni force to take over; why aren't they doing more? you would expect them to. >> iran wants nothing to do with the rise in sunnis but iran would like to see the goodbye, the isis exit as would hezbollah. complicated situation. >> yes indeed. about 11 minutes after the top of the hour on this the first day of fall. the equinox. and look who's here. >> the temperatures are matching it. hope you had a good weekend. we have a huge break to tell you about in the case of an accused cop killer on the run. an assault rifle was just found stashed in the woods in pennsylvania. it is believed to belong to eric frein. police believe he was planning to ambush for months, maybe years. it is believed he murdered one state trooper, and injured another. people in the poconos are being told to stay inside, lock your doors and wen dose. five extremely dangerous inmates who escaped from a california prison are back behind bars. a tip led to a 33-year-old who escaped saturday night by breaking a wind. four other inmates followed him out of that window. they were captured an hour later. inmates on jail on charges including attempted murder and armed robbery. the man who breached the white house in court today. omar gonzalez hopped the front fences and bolted across the lawn friday evening. when secret service agents stopped him, they found that he was armed with a 3.5 inch knife. the iraq veteran's family claims that he sufs from ptsd -- suffers from ptsd and would never hurt anyone. gonzalez faces up to ten years in prison. >> what were you doing after the game? for this player of the seattle seahawks, he was asking his girlfriend to marry him. after the win against the broncos he changed out of his uniform into a dress shirt, kneeled down nid field, popped the question and he did say yes. he then posted off this photo on instagram showing off the ring. congratulations to him and a double win for him. seattle won. >> congratulations. >> wouldn't it be great if we had that super bowl at metlife stadium. but what a game that was. did you see any of that? >> no. >> that was stunning. how did your daughter let you get away with that not watching the game. >> she wanted to watch indy. we keep that ear to the ground. >> 13 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, did you have crazy dreams hast night? you're not alone. the science behind why your mind sometimes just runs wild has now been revealed and we'll explain it all. the feds no longer prosecuting illegal immigrants crossing the border. why? we're going to ask a border agent that very question next. ♪ ♪ woooo. i know what you're thinking. you're thinking beneful. 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>> this is my baby. >> you take it everywhere you go? >> only for special events. >> everybody goes to work with a briefcase but that's how you go to work. >> how do you protect yourself? the biggest fight of your life coming up november 22 against pacquiao. >> it's on november 22, 9 p.m. >> how do you go into that mentally? what is your focus? >> training camp already has begun. i'm going to las vegas to train and will be 100% prepared. >> does it matter who's in there with you? strategy always changing? >> absolutely. you have to approach it in a specific way. manny has a specific style. >> you only started fighting a few years ago. you were kick boxing prior to that. you have a college degree. you graduated from stony brook. boxers don't usually have this kind of background. >> that's how i approach the sport. i approach it cerebrally. >> you've got a degree in health care which means you can beat somebody up and then nurse them back to health. >> knock them out, throw them a card. >> you have a masters in nutrition? what is i don't go-to pre-fight, post-fight. >> i like oatmeal. oatmeal and eggs. >> this is what you eat at home where you still live with your family? >> yes, i live at home with my family in long island. >> aren't you thinking about leaving? >> my mom and dad aren't happy about it. >> your mom wants to cook for you. >> can you show me a signature move? >> we're going to pretend we're all righties. put that foot in front. hands up against our face. hands up, stay pretty. we're going to learn a one, a two and a three. one is our left jab straight out in front. our two is our right hand, turn all the way through. we're going to throw a throw which is our left hook. >> one, two -- >> start with the left. one, two, three. excellent. again. >> one, two, three. >> you've done this before. >> the thing is you're fighting pacquiao, he's a little smaller than you, little lighter than you, much more experienced than you. i'll be pacquiao. i'll help you out. >> you're going to switch your feet. >> did he tell you that? >> our hands are lined up a little differently. with manny, he's big on throwing this hand, so i'm going to be constantly moving this way, going this way, hitting him constantly. lots of movement. >> this is going to take more than just one lesson. congratulations. >> thank you. >> coming up, remember those fights between passengers on crammed airplanes? one airline is making skies more friendly to people and meet the judge who puts people on the corner of shame. ♪ ♪ 't lame♪ ♪but this... ♪takes my breath away 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about? foreign markets. asian debt that recognizes the shift in the global economy. you know, the kind that capitalizes on diversity across the credit spectrum and gets exposure to frontier and emerging markets. if you convert 4-quarter p/e of the s&p 500, its yield is doing a lot better... if you've had to become your own investment expert, maybe it's time for bny mellon, a different kind of wealth manager ...and black swans are unpredictable. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ right here. with a control pad that can read your handwriting, a wide-screen multimedia center, and a head-up display for enhanced driver focus. all inside a newly redesigned cabin of unrivaled style and comfort. ♪ the all-new c-class. a a a a welcome back. consumer headlines for you now. new problems for the troubled obamacare law. those signing up for promised tax credits to help cut the cost of insurance, but now hundreds of thousands of people may have to pay back that money because the income they listed on the applications did not match their tax returns. home depot offering free identity protection services and credit monitoring for a year to the 56 million customers affected by its data breach. the airbus is coming to the rescue. the plane maker announcing a new design that will shrink bathrooms to make space in the cabin more comfortable. >> how can they possibly shrink bathrooms? they are so small already. a missouri judge had it with lawbreakers disrespecting the court but instead of sending them to jail, he's sending repeat offenders to the corner of shame. joining us from st. louis is judge richard scobie. good morning, judge. people who simply would not show up in court would not pay their fines and, that really bugged you, didn't it? >> well, con tem of court is my -- contempt of court is my power to force people to do and comply with my orders. when they didn't do that, my choice is either an additional fine which wasn't seeming to work, or incarceration which is pretty severe. so i came up with this tool, and the policy that if you don't come to court, you don't pay your fines -- and it's usually a combination of both -- you can have the option of instead of fines or jail, you can have the option of wearing the sign. >> we've got an image of a guy who is actually wearing the sign there in missouri. and what it says is won't come to court, won't pay my fine so judge skouby ordered me to pay this fine. it rhymes. >> i didn't entend for it to come out exactly like that. this isn't a laughing matter. without judicial orders being followed the law is only words. it is my responsibility to make sure people not only respect but follow court's orders and i take that very seriously. and it seemed to me like there was quite a few of them who weren't taking it seriously. i think i have their attention now. >> no kidding. now i would imagine when somebody gets an order you've got to show up in judge skouby's courtroom, they show up, don't they? >> the information i'm receiving from the police department and from the general consensus after court was nobody wants to wear the sign. certainly they prefer that over going to jail. and i don't want to make somebody who is a nonviolent offender lose their job, but i do want to remind them and it is my responsibility to remind them, you're not supposed to do this again. >> it is the law. you've got to follow the law. what's the reaction been from your town? >> kind of mixed. i think a lot of people like it. some people strongly dislike it. but i'm not running a public opinion poll. i have a job to do. my job is to foster and reenforce respect for the judicial system and that's what i intend to do. >> so far just the one guy holding the sign has stood this on the shame corner. how many other people are potentially going to wind up holding that there in your town? >> like i said, if the promise of complying has greatly increased since the first gentleman had to wear the sign, it is a problem that potentially could affect right now on my docket maybe 25 people. and that number rotates. i mean, we do roughly 75 to 100 tickets a month. the number of people who don't pay their fines just keeps getting larger and that creates a big burden on our court clerk. it almost doubles her work. i'm not here to save the taxpayers money. it's good when i can. but the lack of respect is what concerns me the most. we live in a country where we were all raised to believe in this but it seems like it's kind of gotten lost in late times. >> you know what? you're exactly right, judge, and you're doing something to try to get people's attention. pay your fine, come to court. it's what you're supposed to do. that's why they call it the law. we'd love to have folks weigh in on our facebook page. we're asking is this fine or over the line? judge, thank you very much. thanks for joining us from your town out in missouri. 12 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up, this war vet has seen all sorts of mayhem on the battle but his wife having a baby on the side of a highway, that's a whole new one. hear from him straight ahead. what do you get when you put a camera, a pool and 1,500 puppies together? a dangerous amount of cute photos. meet the guy behind the pics coming up. ♪ ♪ you can eat that on weight watchers? looks amazing. dine out on favorites or cook up something new. with weight watchers you can enjoy the food you really want. join for free and start losing weight now. learn how to eat healthier, while enjoying the foods you love. ♪ ♪ "here i am. rock you like a hurricane." ♪ fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. you pay your auto insurance premium every month on the dot. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? 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underwater. how did you take them underwater? >> through the course of swimming lessons with the puppies, some of them came out and got lessons, they learned about how to be confident and how to get out. but some of them decided that they loved it. little olympic swimmers, dive not guilty and going under water. >> these puppies here are all up for adoption right now. we want to find them great homes. we have charlie, who is a border collie terrier mix that you see here. >> i think this is a border collie mix right here. >> he's staying within his border, we appreciate this. leslie, the hound shepherd mix. they're not responding to anybody's name. is that correct? >> yeah. >> but they are having fun here. what a great purpose to be able to keep the dog safe, but get them great homes. you have a calm spirit, this guy right here. >> let's look at some more pictures, but keep in mind, what's the response been of these pictures? >> it's been overwhelmingly positive. as it turns out, people like puppies. puppies are my favorite creature on the face of the earth. they bring us joy. >> bring us through this shot. this is in florida. a little 11-week-old lab puppy. he swam five feet down to the bottom of the pool. super slow mo. but at 11 weeks. it all started with swimming lessons. he decided wow, i love the water. i love playing this game of fetch. we're having fun. >> i didn't know there was instant replay in puppy water polo, but there is. >> what a challenge to undertake. i remember my lab jumping into the water. >> excuse me. i'mi'm sorry, elisabeth. i think by this ear here he is the guilty party. >> look at this video here. what was the biggest challenge doing this? >> the biggest challenge really was -- there wasn't really a challenge at all, to be honest with you. i'm a swim teacher more than a photographer. >> that puppy looks like he just got out of the uterus. >> i love these little creatures more than anything. it's about being patient. so i guess it wasn't too much of a challenge. my only challenge was i was sad when i was done with the book. >> you are a sweet guy, seth. look at this. you really spent so much time in the water with them. you see this with adults and children. but to do it with puppies, that's a big heart that you have. >> yeah. >> millions of people are thanking you for that. >> we got to keep these little guys safe. >> one thing you don't want to do is put three puppies in a small little cage. this is like summer slam 2016. >> i don't even hear the noises. >> listen, if you want to help and you want to adopt these puppies, contact the north shore animal league. thank you, seth. where do we go? >> any book store. support your local independent bookstores. the book is "underwater puppies." >> thank you. >> now they calmed down, now that we're done. let me tell you what's coming up. the senate minority leader just one of the heavy hitters stopping by donald trump's office this week. why? 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[ male voice ] we're good in here, howie. yeah, have a good night, brother. experian.com members get personalized help plus identity theft protection. join now at experian.com. with enrollment in experian credit tracker. good morning. it is monday, september 22. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. police issue an arrest warrant for a person of interest in the case of missing uva student hannah graham. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> wow. statement there for sure. this morning her emotional parents speaking out for the first time. and another fox news alert. three afghan soldiers who were visiting military training camps on cape cod are missing this morning. where are they? and do they pose a threat? we'll tell you what we know. maybe you thought about doing this. this reporter certainly did. >> as for this job, well, not that i have a choice, but [ bleep ]. >> wow. we edit the beep. wow. we never thought about doing it. mornings are better with friends. >> as i just said, i had no idea that was coming up. i was not expecting that. >> it appears she quits on camera. >> that's what i would say, as opposed to the resignation letter, which is too old-fashioned. >> so much for the two weeks. >> whatever happened to plain take this job and shove it? >> i don't know. i guess that's one of the good or bad things about live television. >> we'll tell you the story behind the story. plus donald trump, who joins us every monday morning, will be with us in 90 seconds after the headlines with heather. >> i want to know what donald trump would do if he was faced with an plea like that. >> he fires a lot of people. >> manhunt is underway. we begin with this. right now for three afghan soldiers who vanished here in the united states. the major and two captains arrived at a massachusetts military base on september 11 for training. they went missing during a trip o a cape cod shopping mall saturday and the military is working with local police to try and figure out where the three went. >> each hour that goes by gets more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody, as time goes on, it gets more concerning. the other thing is were they victims of some type of violent act? so hopefully they've extended their weekend and they come back tonight. >> here is the thing that you should know, the military insists the men were fully vetted before they arrived and they do not pose a threat to the public. a huge break is being called in the case of an accused cop killer on the run. assault rifle was just found stashed in the woods in pennsylvania. and it is believed to belong to eric frien. police believe he was planning the ambush for months, maybe even years. it's believed he seriously injured one state trooper and murdered another. this morning people who live in the poconos are being told to stay inside, lock your doors and windows. virginia state police busy now on the hunt for jesse matthew, a warrant for his arrest has been arrest after he was named a person of interest in the disappearance of hannah graham. over the weekend, matthew walked into a police station, spoke with a lawyer, and then got into a car and sped away. graham, who has been missing over a month, was last seen on surveillance video with a man believed to be matthew. and a brave marine corps veteran says that he was absolutely terrified while helping his wife give birth inside a car on the side of a busy california freeway. he was heading to visit his family with his wife and their three children when sandra suddenly goes into labor. he immediately pulled over and called 911 for help. >> i don't think anyone can ever top a story like this for her. she's going to be the one going to school, tell me something about yourself. i was born on the side of a freeway. >> little savannah weighing 11 pounds, 6 ounces. mom and baby are doing fine. for that marine veteran, his best mission yet. >> that's right. >> all right. thank you very much. every monday at this time, donald trump joins us from somewhere in the world and today he joins us from -- where are you, mr. trump? >> in new york. >> good place. i'm sure you were watching "60 minutes." they premiered i believe their 47th season opener. they had leon panetta on, the former secretary of defense. we're going to play a sound bite. he says everybody in the room, he, the secretary of defense, hillary clinton and secretary of state, c.i.a. director, the chairman of the joint chiefs all told barak obama to arm the syrian rebels. but the president, he was much smarter than them. now we're in trouble. listen to this. >> the real key was how can we develop a leadership group among the opposition that would be able to take control? and my view was to have leverage to do that. we would have to provide the weapons and the training in order for them to really be willing to work with us in that effort. >> but with virtually his entire national security team unanimous on this, that's not the decision the president made. >> i think the president's concern, and i understand it -- was that he had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was you have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> what's your reaction to him saying that now? >> well, i'm not that surprised because that's him. i will say that now we are arming people, but now we have no idea who they are. they're all splintered up and they will eventually probably join isis and they'll have awful our weapons. we'll give them hundreds of millions and billions of dollars worth of weapons and they've taken them from the iraqi soldiers that we trained and they have our tanks and they have our guns and they have our missiles and they have everything else we gave them. they'll end up, isis, whoever, the bad group is at the time, will end up with whatever we give now. but it's sort of interesting, at that one point in time you really did have a strong rebel group and they were identify annual. now they're not identifiable and we're going to be doing it. he made a mistake. he makes lots of mistakes. >> i hear you mention millions and billions, mr. trump. the head of the kurdish intelligence, we're going to play the clip for you in a minute, he explained how much money we're actually talking about, how much money, how much power isis has, where they're getting it exactly. i want you to listen to this and explain how concerned this makes you. >> generates equivalent to $6 million daily by the selling of oil, taking taxes from people, ransoms and still getting donations. >> you talked about donations. >> many people who believe in this extremist ideology previous that it's their duty to donate money to this organization. >> that's been coming from where? >> different countries actually. >> in the gulf states? >> some in the gulf states. >> $6 million a day, that will keep them going forever. >> if they're not stopped. >> a lot of money. >> i've been talking about for years, elisabeth, for years the oil in iraq and they've taken over a lot of that oil. i said keep it because somebody else will take it over and they won't be our friends and you had no idea that this was going to be happening. but i did. i've always said it. i said keep the oil. some people would say, what a terrible thing. this is a sovereign country, mr. trump. how can you say such a terrible thing? it's a sovereign country. give me a break. so i said keep the oil. i said it on your show every time you gave me a chance to say it. now they have the oil and that's the story. we made it possible for them because we are very, very stupid. we have very, very foolish or stupid or nigh each -- i don't know what the word would be, but it's one of those three -- leaders. maybe all three combined. but keep the oil. we went in there, to the victor belong the spoils. and keep the oil and i said it over and over again and now they're taking the oil and they're going to be nice and rich and they already are nice and rich. >> we know this, they're selling it on the black market, undercutting the market, so people are buying it illicitly, which will make it harder to stop. now politics, big week last week for chris christie as a federal investigation revealed that he did not have anything to do with closing down the bridge in the george washington traffic problem when people were backed um and people that you knew were backed up, stuck on that bridge. he had nothing to do with it. they feasted on chris christie, everybody, especially a certain network two blocks away, for weeks, maybe even months. but they didn't really even bother covering his exoneration. >> first of all, it's a good step for chris. it's a big step. it's a very positive thing. but i saw it the other day. i was reading the paper like on a saturday and i saw this little article back on page 22 that this had happened and i said wow, what a difference. it was front page news all over the place and then when they find out what they found out, and i don't know that they've actually announced it from the federal standpoint. but it seems to be out there and certainly it was not covered very big, which is not a very fair situation. >> they covered almost 90 minutes, an hour and a half there in the first few days. >> it was a very small story and a lot of people think that was unfair. >> they were just trying to destroy him so he would not be the guy who squares off against hillary clinton. now it looks like he's got the green light. a lot of people who would like help from donald trump have been coming to you over the last couple of weeks. tell us a little bit about who you're hosting over there. >> i do. i have a lot of people that want to run for office or are running for office. i've had a great track record. i do a lot of robo calls. they don't even want money. they say, my robo is listened to more than anybody else's robo, meaning people don't just hang up the phone. sort of interesting. but a lot of people, mitch mcconnell is coming up today who i've been supporting. i think it's very important because they have to take -- you have to take back the senate. you have to end obamacare. you have to just absolutely take back the senate and you have to do it quickly. this is the one opportunity. i think the republicans are going to do very well. but the mitch mcconnell race is very important and if i were in kentucky, i can tell you, with all of mitch's tenure and all of the money he brings back to kentucky, i heard one person saying, oh, it's unfair to bring so much money back to kentucky of the well, i wish we had that in new york. i wish we had that elsewhere because frankly, if i'm in kentucky, i love all the money coming back into kentucky. but he gets that because of his power and because of his tenure. it would be very, very foolish to give that up if you're from kentucky. i think he's going to do fine. >> senator scott brown a lot of people thought was a long shot. now is neck and neck in many poll. >> he wants support. scott brown is coming up to see me. a lot of people come up to see me. my record, as you know, is very unbleepished. mitt romney, he had six states that he was losing and i did some phone calls and i did some robo calls and all of those six states he -- this was in the primary -- all of those six states he won. so a lot of people know that and they found out -- even turner when he ran for congress, if you remember the first time, when he ran for elliott, whatever. >> wiener. >> wiener. he ran against a democrat. he had no chance. he was down ten points. i did a robo and he ended up winning and he said a speech and he said i want to thank donald trump. he won in wiener's territory, which is impossible practically for a republican. so they come up to see me and if i can help and if i like the people and if i believe in the people, i will take the time and do what i have to do. >> of course, if the people out there would like to follow you on twitter, you got hundreds of thousands. he is at realdonaldtrump. >> that's right. thanks very much. >> thank you very much. >> see you next monday. coming up, breaking news from the case of that missing university of virginia student, hannah graham. how her case could be tied to the disappearances of other women. that's coming up. and leonardo dicaprio wanted to get the word out to end climate change. just one little problem, he forgot about his yacht. ♪ ♪ know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc 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>> thanks. it's happening in cities all across the country. potentially deadly virus infecting dogs who play with other dogs am and this could involve you and your pet. dozens are dead, countless others are sick. mark is the vice president and chief of medical staff at north shore animal league and is here to discuss it. welcome. >> thank you. >> we brought the same stunt puppies from earlier in the show here. playing the role of very frisky dogs. so these are fun dogs, but what happens if these dogs aren't vaccinated and what is happening to these other dogs? >> parvo is not a new virus. it's been around for 40-plus years. we treat it quite a bit at north shore animal league. the challenge is lately we've seen more cases in the owned community. this is typically a problem of unvaccinated young puppies and we're seeing more older dogs getting the disease. >> they start vomiting and sick. you got to act quickly because they have it. once they have it, can you stop it? >> yes. with aggressive treatment, survival rates can be upwards of 90%. the problem is it takes a long period of time in the hospital and it's a lot of money. >> how do they get it? >> honestly, it's shed in the stool of infected animals and others can get it by sniffing or licking the stool, or stepping in it and grooming themselves. >> and then can it go from dog to dog? >> it's very, very contagious. especially in a closed environment where they're dog. >> we asked to you give us points how to stop it. here we go. vaccination, 100% effective. get your dog down there. >> it's nearly 100% effective. the most important thing with vaccination is keeping up with the vaccine protocols which your vet recommends. >> right. you got to continue it and go all the way with the puppies, right? >> exactly. requires boosters every one to three years. >> and there you go. so here we have these things happening if your dog is getting sick, you got to act quickly and now you're seeing it more and more because people perhaps are look to cut costs and thinking, my dog is fine. do we really have to spend a few hundred dollars on vaccinations that he probably doesn't need? >> that's a valid point. but it's a drop in the bucket compared to what the cost of treating the disease if your dog were to get it. >> just for the record, these puppies on twice, we have to double their fee. this is going to damage our budget. and i believe this one started it. there we go. now watch how calm they get. it worked. doctor, thanks so much. >> thanks. coming up, a major development in the search for a cop killer. the clue they just found that has police closing in fast. and get this, maybe you thought about doing this in your life. quitting your job. but how about doing it live on television? 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tomorrow. tomorrow is full of promise. we can come back tomorrrow. and we promise to keep it that way. csx. how tomorrow moves. what a day. can't wait til tomorrow. fox news alert now. a break in the search for an accused cop killer still on the run. now cops revealing they found a suspect's weapon stashed in the woods. >> wtxf reporter steve keely is live in pennsylvania with the developing details. good morning to you. what do we know at this point? >> reporter: well, we don't know anything new at this point. we just know that it's day ten for the newest man and member of the f.b.i.'s ten most wanted and it's been rainy, raw and real cold all night. rougher conditions for the first time for this slow and so far safe search as the hunt for the man who made this most wanted list is still out here in the woods for a tenth day. despite erroneous reports of a shootout friday night and police having pin add specific house, police said in their latest update, they have not had any contact with him. but she showed off these pictures of an assault rifle and ammo magazines that they believe he stashed for possible later use. since they all believe he had two high powered rifles with him, he likely has the other one with a sniper scope that he likely used to shoot the troopers ten days ago and one that they can likely fire from far away with deadly accuracy, making the search for him one where agents, troopers have to watch every step they're taking, over 250 miles of mountains and thick woods here. >> we know that frien prepared and planned extensively for months and maybe years. he planned his attack and his retreat. however, we believe we are closing in on him. >> while they think he was watching that trooper barracks for many months before he fired those fatal shots that killed the one trooper and critically wounded the other. as far as life goes here back to normal, not quite. schools are still closed up here. they did lift the ban on telling everybody to shelter in place and stay in their houses. they're saying if you have to go out, go about your normal lives, but if you don't have to go out, stay in as much as you can. don't go out in the woods. bow hunting season started here today. they said try to put off your hunting plans today and stay inside. even if it's daylight like right now, keep your doors locked. >> all right. steve keely where they're looking for eric frein wanted in connection with the murder of a trooper. >> specific warning to those in the area. now we'll turn to heather childers who has some headlines for us. >> yes. we begin with this. following two serious security incidents. the white house is beefing up security. this is the man who jumped the fence and got inside, has his day in court. omar gonzalez hopped the front fences, bolted right across the lawn friday evening. when secret service agents stopped him, they found that he was armed with a 3 1/2 inch knife. the iraq veteran's family claims that he suffers from ptsd and he would never hurt anyone. gonzalez faces up to ten years in prison. a stunning new development, a reporter to tell you about. top level officials are leaving the department of homeland security at alarming rates and it could be putting our security at risk. the report found that employees have left dhs twice as fast as the rest of the government in the past four years. some of the reasons? they say dysfunctional work environment, low morale, private contractors are offering more money to work for them. here in new york city, hundreds of thousands of activists spent the weekend marching for climate change, including actor leonardo dicaprio. leo went from green to an angry red when reporters began to question him about his personal habits. fox news contributor michelle fields tweeting this photo after asking him about his personal jets and yacht. yes, that one. nearly 500 feet, $500 million, this is the yacht that leo took to this year's world cup and you can't exactly call that environmentally friendly. not really. and making an entrance, right, and then there is making an exit. one tv reporter in alaska showing us the difference when she quits on live television. >> and as for this job, well, not that i have a choice but [ bleep ], i quit. >> okay. former ktva reporter reporting on the local cannabis story when she revealed she's the club's owner. yes. it gets more bizarre. she will be dedicating all her time to legalizing pot in alaska >> i thought i had some rough talking. how do you as an anchor pick up after that? start advertising for a job. just go okay, there will be a weather position. >> thanks, heather. now, maria molina is welcoming the first day of fall which happens tonight after dark, doesn't it? >> yes, that's right, 10:29 is the first official time of fall and the official start of that hit series "gotham," 8:00 p.m. eastern time on of course. i have a bunch of my friends with me. they're all dressed alike, the characters, the penguin from "batman." we're all here to kick off the premiere of gothham city coming up at 8:00 p.m. eastern time on fox. they all brought their umbrellas. we don't need them today in new york city, but we do have them here. hey, guys. good morning. let's go ahead and take a look at the weather conditions across the country because we are going to need those umbrellas through some parts of the country, especially across the southeastern united states and in parts of florida. that's what we're going to be looking at. showers and storms also possible across parts of new mexico, colorado, and also western texas. we're already seeing them early this morning. temperature wise, you're at 50 degrees in minneapolis. 46 in chicago. 52 in cleveland. it's already feeling like fall out there. take a look at those highs. well below average. you're ohm going to be in the 50s in cleveland and upper 60s in chicago. texas, always on the hot side. 80s and 90s widespread there. and tonight kicks off the official start of fall at 10:29 p.m. eastern time. let's head back inside. i have my friends here, the penguin look alike. >> the whole gotham thing takes place in new york city. did we shoot it there? >> what town is that? >> manhattan? >> it surely looks like it. >> i don't know where it was shot. do any of you know where "gotham" was shot? it was shot in new york city. confirmation. >> there you go. >> authenticity right there. almost 100,000 twitter followers does gothham have. >> mark, could we look at that shot again? are they still standing up there with -- can you have ted pull out a little? see, when maria put up the t, it spelled gothham. but for a while the message was go ham. >> not enough people are supporting ham. >> all right. go ham. >> lots of fans out there. >> i wonder if we gave them a few minutes how many different words they could come up with. umbrella scramble. coming up, an amazing show of courage from complete strangers. >> oh, my god! look at that! look at that! oh, my god! yes! >> one of the men who jumped in to save a life is here with us this morning. and can you name all three branches of government? well, should you have to be able to in order to vote? 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if you said the bill of rights, you got it right. most people didn't. only 4% of students born and raised in the united states got that correct and only a third of americans can name the three branches of government. that's why here to take on a new requirement for students, people are looking into passing a citizenship test before they actually get a diploma. we're going to take that one step further. do they need it to graduate or vote? joining me, spokeswoman for the bill of rights institute and a group working to pass this rule in utah. thanks for being with us this morning here. whitney, should this citizenship test, should it be required to graduate high school? >> i think civics education is a huge important issue. but i think requiring a test to measure if we've actually improved civic knowledge is a band-aid. it doesn't address the problem. we're in the middle of learning that standardized testing is limiting some children from achieving their full potential and we want to add another test as a measurement mechanism? i think we're missing the root of the problem here. engaging kids with civics and with government rather than giving them another arbitrary test. >> okay. so i'll let you respond to that. you came here, emigrated from chile in the '80s. what do you say? >> i think we need to do everything that we can to engage our new generation of students so they can be involved in civics. i think it's human nature not to study, not to learn, if we can put it away. i think if you ask them to complete a test, it will create an incredible conversation among family members. i think it's a good step. >> what about if we took it one step further as i just mentioned into voting? should you have to answer -- i mean, the majority of these questions, if not by graduation of high school, but by the time you vote? whitney? >> i mean, i know a lot of people that probably could get a perfect score on their driving test, but put them hyped the wheel and -- behind the wheel and it doesn't mean they're a good driver. we need to go back and look at the basis of this problem. have we made civics education a priority in the classroom? have we equipped teach tore engage kids in the topic. i teach aide grade, they were debating the constitutionality about obamacare and that taught me so much more about what they could do and more from a pen and paper test. >> should it be required? >> i think personally that anything that you can do to insure that our young people, our families are involved in civic learning, the history of our country is a positive. furthermore, how can you go into planning what the generation will do in the future if you're not prepared and understand where we have been? personally i've taken my daughters to voting with me and i think it's critical. you can not be engaged without having the full knowledge and understanding of your nation. >> more meaningful measure when you vote perhaps. so some test examples here, who is in charge of the executive branch, when you look at the number of answers right, it's disheartening. the house of representatives has how many voting members? the answer is 435. who wrote the declaration of independence? thomas jefferson is the answer in case you're wondering at home. but when you look at how many people get those answers wrong, how concerning is it to you that those very people are voting? >> well, personally, that's why i think it's so critical that we begin this conversation. i think this is the step -- one step in the right direction. that's why we're asking local government, local state to decide what they want to do with this. and obviously -- i wouldn't begin to understand how we could be engaged citizens and voting if we don't know the history, how our government works, and i think this is something very important for all of us as americans. >> we want to know what everyone thinks out there who is watching right now at "fox & friends." we want to thank our guests for joining us today for this very civilized debate. thanks. >> thank you. >> shoot us an e-mail, facebook, twitter on what you think about that, civics test required to vote. coming up, what really happens to your credit card after it gets stolen. curt the cyber guy knows. it will hurt and he's going to tell you why. first on this date in history in 1996, the macarena was the number one song in america and all of our hands were moving from our heads to our waist to our hips. ♪ ♪ [music] ♪ jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. ♪ ♪ "here i am. rock you like a hurricane." ♪ fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. know that chasing performance and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. time for answer to the trivia question. the answer andrea buccelli, 56. our winner is warren from freeland, washington. you'll get a copy of "george washington's secret six." i will sign it and send it. now time for your news by the numbers. 10,883. that's the average price of a used car making it a great time to buy one. but you won't get as much as you want for the trade-in. leases will be more expensive because of the resale value. good news, bad news, bad news story. next, 422 million miles in ten months. that's how long the journey was for nasa's mason spacecraft as it successfully reached mars' orbit. over the next year, it will study the red planet's upper atmosphere. at least it said it would when we sent them. and finally, 20 years. that's how long it's been since "friends" first hit the air waves. here is a fun fact, joey and chandler's big white dog actually belonged to jennifer aniston. wow. a friend gave it to her as good luck gift. i feel like i'm freelancing on this story. free association. that's all i got. steve, sorry. i should have given that time to you. >> all right. 56 million credit card numbers now out in the open after hackers broke into the computer systems at home depot. they had unprecedented access for nearly six months to the numbers. was your card exposed? here is how to find out. we're joined by cyber guy curt nixon. good morning. >> good morning. we were amongst the first to report that this sort of credit card breach is not just reserved for home depot or target, as you recall, as 40 million people lost their credit card information there. this is a big event that's happening. federal government reporting that about 1,000 retailers at this point will eventually be coming forward saying this kind of intrusion is happening on the payment system of these retailers all over the place. what does it mean to you and me? the fact is, our numbers are now out there in the greatest amounts that they ever have been. more cyber criminals will be going after our numbers. they'll be trying to get them from various methods. what i want to share with you is what in the heck they do with all this once they get our numbers. take a look at this. when they get our credit card numbers, whether they get them from the retailers or not, they add them to a collection of a bunch of numbers. they make more money when they can show that they have a lot of credit card numbers that work. that's why they'll go use them at on line stores to see a, if they work, and b, don't trio buy items easily refundable so they can use them for cash. that's part of using your credit card to find out if it works. they'll buy things, sell them right away, and then what they do to put a price tag on these cards is pretty incredible. they will go after they make sure that the card works, they will add a bunch of additional information to attach to the cards. so they'll try to find out that ddress or your wife's name, or where you like to shop a lot. that information now raises the price in value of your own credit card that's out there. if they get a group of 1,000 of those, now they're really rolling in it. so here is what you want to do. here is what they're doing. they make sure that the cards work. they go after and see what else they can find out about you. then they look at your behavior on the card. and they'll try to find out, are you shopping the most in dayton, ohio? are you mostly in another city? when they can find that out, that card is worth a lot more money to them. now, what are stores supposed to be doing to protect you and me, right? well, there is not a lot they can do at this moment because their systems have been breached. but what they need to know is hey, has it been breached and they need to start securing access to their own payment system. they need to start sealing off the openings to them. employees have easy access to stores and corporate accounts of companies they work for. they need to train their employees to spot suspicious e-mails, and then they need to practice these sort of fire drills when it comes to their security, as if a credit card disaster has happened inside of their company. that's how they could actually get it to work. but what you and i can do is incredible, which is we can stop using a card the moment we think it's been compromised. call the company and say you want a new one. there is a new app out that's totally free that will allow you to monitor your credit card transactions and what it will do, it's in testing phase right now -- you're traveling around with your phone and you're spending. when it notices you're away from your phone, it will alert you. it's called bill guard. you'll find it at www.foxandfriends.com. >> i'm going to download it. >> sign up for my newsletter that's there as well. >> i'll go on line and do that. thank you. straight ahead, a big development in the irs scandal. lois lerner just sat down for a first interview since the scandal and what she is saying is going to tick you off. bret baier live from washington with the details ok who woh, i do!t rolls? 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>> oh, my god! look at that! look at that! oh, my god! yes! >> one of the men who jumped in head first joins us live. because your mornings are better with friends. hi, everybody. welcome to "fox & friends" on the first day of fall. it will kick in tonight about 10:30 at night. bret baier joins us every monday in the 8:00 o'clock hour and there he is from our nation's capitol. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> just within the last half hour, politico has posted on their web site an exclusive interview with lois lerner. first of all, it says she's not sorry for anything she did. she didn't do anything wrong. what's interesting, though, is she's saying that employers won't hire her. she'd like to go to work to make money to pay for her gigantic lawyer bill. why on earth, if she's not going to talk to congress, is she talking to politico? >> pretty interesting. the piece itself is very lengthy. it is detailed in a defense of her as a person. it's not really detailed as a defense of her actions or explaining exactly the e-mail trails back and forth. only to say that she and her legal team believe that the republicans have cherry picked some of these e-mails to release to the press. >> it's easy to cherry pick when you delete half of them. >> yeah. she says that that was not her exploding her computer and why would she only destroy some of them. it's a pretty amazing read in that it's a defense. i mean, down to she brought brownies and lottery tickets in for her office staff 'cause she was such a good person. i think it's striking. >> it is. 43 days to go until the mid terms. a lot of people raising brow at that, from pleading the fifth to raising politico. she says, quote, i didn't do anything wrong. i'm proud of my career and the job that i did for this country, regardless of what ever else happens, i know i did the best i could under the circumstances and i'm not sorry for anything i did. wow. >> yeah. just remember the context here. this is the person who leaked the actual what was happening with the irs, this whole thing at a conference. she planted a question and then answered it, not telling congress before that and congress had asked multiple times for these specific answers. so this actually very lengthy article does not give us a lot more details on the substance. >> here is another excerpt from that article and i want to get you to comment. why she believes she was the center of the scandal to begin with. she says, quote, i was the person who announced it. i assumed the other part of it is because i declined to talk. once i declined to talk, they could say anything they wanted. how dare they. that's my input. and they knew i couldn't say anything back. as if it's our fault she declined to talk! >> yeah. i'll also point out that republicans said when she went to congress, she had a lengthy defense before she took the fifth. they said that that really wasn't technically accurate for her not to answer questions after making that defense. she's making a defense here in broad swipes, but not really on the substance of all of the allegations. >> yeah. there were two juicy tidbits. one of them, it says after she took the fifth, she was called in to hr and she told, you're going to resign right now. and she said, i'm not going to quit. and then she walked out. then she retired. now she's making $100,000 a year and she would like to help her husband pay for her legal defense, which it's lengthy. that's one juicy tidbit. the other thing is, before she was a lawyer for the irs, she was a dental hygienist! who knew? >> who knew? these are the kind of details we're getting. i think the other interesting thing is that she feels pressured from all of these outside groups. she says she's been threatened and that she doesn't really have a life anymore. i think that this paints a picture of a sad character, but one in which has not really answered all of the questions put to her by congress. >> none of them. let's talk about another former president obama appointee that is writing a book and is very critical of some major decisions the president has made. his name is leon panetta. here is an excerpt as he talked about the opportunity we had to arm the free syrian army that we chose not to. but if they listened to him, we would have. listen. >> the real key was how can we develop a started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was we have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> bret? >> yeah. that's significant for the former c.i.a. director, former defense secretary to say that. it tracks with what we saw in hillary clinton's book about the effort to push the president on training and arming the syrian rebels when we knew a lot more of the groups and the moderates. there you see the other leaders who have -- they've spoken out, them, hillary clinton and leon panetta being most appointed. but david petraeus and general dempsey also saying things about the early days of funding and training those syrian rebel groups. >> those are heavy hitters there when you see dempsey, petraeus, clienten, panetta. then when you hear this, and we're going to play a clip now and i'm sure you know it, king of jordan says this all could have been prevented, it will send chills through your spine. >> could the rise of isis have been prevented? >> they could have been prevented if the international community worked harder together to make sure that funding the support to the original groups in syria were not allowed to get to the extent that they were. >> the international community, the united states intervened too late? >> i think we could have done a better job in making sure that earlier on it was identified who the bad people were and action by the international community was taken not to allow that to happen. >> bret, last night "60 minutes" was highly critical of the way the president of the united states has done with isis. >> it was very critical. the way it's portrayed is his national security team really pushed him and he pushed back. now, there will be defense that says those syrian rebels weren't ready to receive those weapons. they weren't -- and they could have fallen into the wrong hands, et cetera, et cetera. there are republicans on capitol hill who had similar reservations. but his national security team in that moment is saying you have to get in the game here to affect the outcome and the fact that you see the king saying the international community, i mean, clearly he means the u.s. >> right. he also just keep in mind, who isn't in that shot? vice president joe biden, and valerie jarrett. so i guess maybe those two had more weight than the other five, six, seven or eight. >> yeah. we don't know the discussions behind closed doors. but we do know that the president listens to them greatly, especially on foreign policy matters. >> sure does. bret baier will be on 6:00 p.m. eastern time with "special report" live from d.c thank you very much for taking a little bit of your day. >> have a good day. it's ten minutes after the top of the hour. heather inaugurate is off, but we got heather childers. >> i have the latest. we have some breaking developments to tell you about. a manhunt underway right now for three afghan soldiers who vanished right here in the united states. a major and two captains arrived at a military base in massachusetts on september 11 for training program. we just found out that they went missing during a trip to a shopping mall in cape cod. >> each hour that goes by it gets a little more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody, as time goes on, it gets more concerning. the other thing is were they victims of some type of violent act? so hopefully they've extended their weekend and they show up. >> the military insists that the men were fully vetted and do not pose a threat to the public. we will have a live report on all of this from cape cod. that's coming up in 30 minutes. closing in on a cop killer, a huge break in the search for suspect eric frien. an assault rifle was just found stashed in the woods in pennsylvania and it is believed to belong to him. police say he was planning the ambush for months, maybe years. he seriously injured one state trooper and murdered another. people in the pocono, you're being told to stay inside and lock your doors. security at the white house beefed up this morning after two serious security incidents. did you hear about this? in one of them, the man actually got inside. omar gonzalez hopped the front fences and then bolted across the lawn. when secret service agents stopped him, they found he was armed with a knife. the iraq veteran's family claims he suffers from ptsd. he will face a judge today. and finally, can you see it in there? that is no house cat, brian. take a look. the video is a mountain lion running through a suburban neighborhood in salt lake city. officers shot it with a tranquilizer. that didn't do too much good. it ran for more than a mile before being caught. >> never growled. never postured, aggressive posturing. it just wanted to run away. yes, it's very capable of going over six and eight-foot fences. it covered a lot of ground. >> he just wanted to run away. look at that. the lion found under a trailer, he will be relocated to a more rural area. that's probably a better thing. >> that's the way "wild kingdom" used to do it. knock them out and move them. >> i don't remember "wild kingdom" being in salt lake city. >> true. but they have to travel. marlin perkins would sit in the studio and let everybody do the hard work. >> brilliant. >> that followed disney. that was at 7:30 and disney special would be on right after, wouldn't it? >> it was syndicated, so it was on at different times throughout the country. >> my world is everybody else's world. is that wrong? 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>> let us know. how far would you go to save the life of a complete stranger? >> look at that! oh, my god, yes ! i'm a doctor of internal medicine with something terrible to admit. i treated thousands of patients, risked their lives, while high on prescription drugs. i was an addict. i'm recovered now, but an estimated 500,000 medical professionals are still out there, abusing drugs or alcohol. police, airline pilots, bus drivers... they're randomly tested for drugs and alcohol... but not us doctors. you can change that: vote yes on proposition 46. your lives are in our hands. breaking overnight. back to emergency landings at the dallas airport. two american airplanes packed with people had technical issues within moments of each other. one on the way to fresno, california. the other flying to buenos aires. problems with cabin pressure. they returned safely to dallas two minutes apart. in delaware a second person died when a tour bus flipped over. police say the driver was trying take a curve on a steep offramp. the bus was heading back to washington, d.c 48 people were hurt. and five extremely dangerous inmates who escaped a california prison are back behind bars. police say they got out by breaking a window. those guys are resourceful. they were in jail on charges ranging from armed robbery to attempted murder. elisabeth? >> thanks, brian. a group of highway heros being applauded this morning, rightfully so, for saving the lives of three teen-agers after their suv plunged into a ravine. >> oh, my god! look at that! look at that! oh, my god! yes! >> remarkable what you're seeing right here. it happened last week in salt lake city. the first man to jump in and encourage those others to get in and help out is leo montoya who joins us now with his story. leo, good morning. i'm saying it's good to see you. but i have a feeling everybody there was pretty happy to see you after what we looked at in that video. describe to us how you knew something was wrong. i know you were on your bike. >> yes. i heard the explosion or the wreck and when i got to the bridge, everybody was looking into the water, but nobody was doing anything. and i knew that i -- i heard there was children in the vehicle. so i immediately jumped in and tried to get them out and realized that was a futile effort. just convinced everybody that was watching on the bridge to get in there immediately and flip this vehicle. that was the only way the kids were going to live. >> it's incredible the thinking and the action you took. when you realized it was futile, your first attempt, what did you find? why did you need everyone to start flipping the vehicle? because you dove underneath the water. what did you find? >> i thought i was on the driver's side and it didn't dawn on me until i had opened the door that there was no steering wheel. i couldn't feel nobody in the front. so the second time i went in, i felt a person's head in the back seat and i came back out to get a knife because they had the belt strap on them. that's going to take a long time just to get a knife. so when looking up and seeing all the people on the bridge, i realized, hey, we got enough people here, we can flip this truck over and get them so they can start breathing or at least get help to them. >> so you in that split second, i mean, saved his life. did you think you'd be a i believe to get enough people to actually do the work? that's a huge vehicle to get right side up again. >> i really did think that we could do it. i kind of went a little bit crazy and was screaming quite a bit. but there was enough team and i knew we could do it. >> you certainly took charge there. the teen that you got out, he made it okay? >> i hear that there was three people in the vehicle and all three of them came out okay and they're just fine right now. >> my goodness. once that happened, so many people jumped in and did the right thing under your direction. you were a true corporal, we'll call you in this safety and rescue. what did you all say to each other, leo? >> it was just thank you. i was just thanking everybody for helping and right now i'd like to say thank you for all the people that jumped in that water and made the difference. i want to say thank you to marcine stevens from the eye care for kids, stepped up and gave me some glasses. i'm unemployed at this time. so that was a really big help for me. she replaced the glasses that i had lost when jumping in the water. >> wow. a big gift from her as you offered one to so many. you're a locksmith. correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. you know what? you unlocked a whole new set of days for the boys in that car. we always say better with friends here at "fox & friends." i'd say #betterwithleo. you're a hero and we wish you well. we have a feeling you'll have a great job ahead of you. >> thank you so much. >> thanks. coming up, a developing story overnight, three afghan soldiers here in america for training vanished without a trace. do we need to be worried? 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>> reporter: good morning. the search for those are in full force. we know they have been missing since saturday. but right now officials with the national guard are sort of down playing this, saying at this point, there is no indication that these three pose any threat to the public. but we do know that all three of them are members of the afghan national army and we're told that one of them is a major and two of them are captains. we know that they got here on september 11 for a training program hosted by the massachusetts national guard and the u.s. central command. 200 soldiers from six different countries are taking part in it, including the u.s. the goal of this exercise is apparently to promote cooperation among the countries and prepare them for international events. the director of public affairs for joint base cape cod tells us that the visiting soldiers are not required to stay on base and he says they were last seen at the cape cod mall in hyannis, massachusetts. as of this morning, still no word on where they may be or what may have happened to them. but here is international law enforcement and security consultant dan, formerly of the boston police department, with his take on the situation. >> each hour that goes by it gets more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody. as time gets on, it gets more concerning. the other thing is were they victims of some type of violent act. so hopefully they extended their weekend and at some point will show up tonight or be found by folks. >> reporter: as you just heard, concern growing with every hour that these three are missing. but ofcials are the base are saying that at this point, there is no indication that these three pose any threat to the public. even so, the search is on in full force this morning and includes law enforcement agencies at the local, state and federal level, including the f.b.i that's the latest. jessica reyes, back to you. >> thank you very much. live report from cape cod. i bet they just don't want to go back to afghanistan. >> compare cape cod to afghanistan. the other thing is, i like to talk to some of the soldiers training them and find out, did they profile those people set to bug out and cause a ruckus? >> maybe people in the mall have more information about the last purchases. >> i just wouldn't think you would be allowed to. if you're training at a cape cod base, stay in cape cod. if not, you're going to be escorted. wouldn't you think? >> i think when you're posted somewhere, you get time off. you can't stay on base all the time. they're look for them. so keep an eye out. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. heather has some headlines. >> from people wanting to stay here to some wanting to leave, isis in need of women. the terror group using social media to recruit females to marry their fighters and have children. we recently learned of two austerian teenage girls heading over and they're reportedly pregnant. the group's postings telling women they will, quote, have kids and cook. some isis fighters claiming ten to 20 women arrive daily. a stunning new report, top level officials are leaving the department of homeland security at alarming rates and it could be putting our security at risk. the report found employees have left dhs twice as fast as the rest of the government in the past four years. some of the reasons, a dysfunctional work environment and low morale. plus they say private contractors are offering them more money. a drag racer is lucky to be alive this morning after this insane crash. look. >> oh, my god. >> yeah. the driver, by the way, thrown right through the windshield. you can see his legs sticking out of that windshield. but he was able to walk away, walk out of the car. >> really? >> yeah. that's him. lucky, lucky. one missouri judge is fed up with law breakers, disrespecting the court. instead of sending them to jail, he is sending repeat offenders to the corner of shame. here is how the judge explained it right here on "fox & friends." >> this isn't a laughing matter. i mean, it's very serious. without judicial orders being followed, the law is only words. it's my responsibility to make sure that people not only respect, but follow court's orders. >> the judge has gotten mixed reactions. the most seem more willing to wear the sign than go to jail. and we have some viewer response to that. >> is that true, we have viewer response? >> linda said this punishment looks too easy. i say make them do public work and not something menial. >> 'cause he's smile. >> german writes, shame and public humiliation is a powerful motivator. this may be more effective than jail. >> wow. >> so many people wouldn't show up for their court dates, they wouldn't pay the fine. he didn't want to put them in jail. so this seemed to him like a better solution. >> one woman who has never been punished 'cause she's never done anything wrong, maria molina who is outside. and she says it's fall. >> 10:00 o'clock tonight, start raking. >> it will kick off at 10:29 p.m but because it's the start of fall, i have some fall trivia for you. are you ready? we have a nice trivia question coming up for you guys. that question is: why do leaves change color in the fall? is it because a, it is colder. b, there is less light. c, there is less in, or d, because the trees are dying. which answer do you think is correct. >> what was the first one? >> because it's colder. >> let's poll the audience. >> 'cause there is less rain or because the trees are dying? what do you guys think is right? >> i'm going with less light. >> sure. >> i'm going to say because they're dying. >> the correct answer is b, because there is less light. i'm sorry, brian. >> wow. i thought all the trees are dying. >> no. good to see you guys. >> that's so sad. thanks, maria. >> weather across the country, relatively country. showers and storms across the southeast and rockies and those temperatures already feeling like fall across parts of the great lakes in the midwest. early this morning in the 40s and 50s out there. the highs in cleveland only going to make it into the 50s. look at texas, always feeling like summer out there. 90s and 80s widespread. let's head over to brian. >> thank you very much. you want to hear what happened in the games yesterday. monday morning means nfl highlights. in a rematch of last year's super bowl, the denver broncos trying to get revenge. tying it up before the end of regulation. they lose the toss. and then seattle would have a masterful 80-yard drive and win at home. the broncos do not get revenge. what do you do after a football game? shed of the seattle seahawks was asking his girlfriend to marry him after a win against the broncos. he changed out of his uniform, into a dress shirt 'cause she demanded it. he kneeled down mid field and popped the question. >> wow. >> she said yes. he then posted the picture on instagram, got a lot of likes. >> good thing. victory there for the guy. and the girl. because i missed that first game. coming up straight ahead, somebody else read. i'm exhausted. >> it's a new idea to jump start our economy. have the government start handing out free cash? we're serious. peter johnson, jr. is on that next. that's right. and his mission to protect and serve, that's exactly what he did to save this beloved mascot, a sleeping colleague, dog and master join us live. move over, number 7, right into a brick wall musical chairs. fun, right? welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. that's their game. the flights you want are blacked out. or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles. honestly, it's time to switch to the venture card from capital one. with venture, use your miles on any airline, any flight, any time. no blackout dates. and with every purchase, you'll earn unlimited double miles. from now on, no one's taking your seat away. what's in your wallet? 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"on the record" is tracking two major breaking news stories. tonight, new video showing isis savages hostage in iraq. terrorists warn there will be a another beheading and that one will be an american. ebola in america and there is fear it is spreading right now several americans under treatment in isolation. many more under quarantine. ebola impacting all corners of the u.s. tonight from washington, d.c., to texas, to georgia, and nebraska fox news team of reporters tracking reporters' every move across america. casey stegall live in dallas. that's where we start. casey? >> greta, good evening. the latest news involves one of our own. in fact, a freelance journalist, a photographer that was working for nbc news that has now come down with the ebola virus. he caught it in liberia. that is where he has been working, covering this deadly virus outbreak for the network. and we understand this afternoon that health officials say that he will be transported now to the nebraska medical center in omaha, a fine facility as you all know that successfully treated an american doctor for ebola recently. meantime hazmat crews have been at the dallas apartment complex today where the liberian national who boarded a plane and brought the virus to the united states had been staying with family. the place has been scrubbed down while four members of thomas duncan's family remain quarantined inside. the company hired to do the clean up had to secure special permits to transport the hazardous waste that included the patient's bedding and his clothing. finally the cdc says out of the 100 people who have had some sort of contact, either direct or indirect contact with patient zero as is he being called, since he arrived in texas, ten are considered high risk exposures. we understand that is likely his family and medical professionals, greta, who initially treated him before they knew he had ebola. >> casey, thank you. and wilfred smallwood is thomas duncan's half-brother and right now his 21-year-old son is quarantined in that dallas apartment. andrew spoke with wilfred smallwood in texas yesterday and he joins us live. good evening and tell me what did the half-brother say? >> he is optimistic and he is also a little bit scared because it is kind of a vacuum of information about what is happening with his half-brother. again, his name is wilfred smilewood and living in phoenix for nine years. he moved here from liberia nine years ago and brother stayed behind in that country. they haven't seen each other in nine years. they keep in touch regularly. he spoke with the ebola patient just after he arrived here in the u.s. he told me that everything at the time seemed okay. as we now know after the ebola patient first went to that hospital in dallas, he was initially sent home. only to be diagnosed with ebola a few days later. well, the two haven't been able to talk since the half-brother was hospitalized in dallas. on top of all of that, the 212-year-old as you mentioned, greta, is hold up inside that dallas apartment. he was staying with relatives at that apartment where the ebola patient was staying. now he is quarantined in that apartment. he will be in there for at least another two weeks. his father told me his son is doing okay. he feels fine. however, he is not too happy about the hospital's treatment of his half-brother. very don't. he talked to me. in the house here, okay. everything okay? have food. everything is okay. we are here. we are fine. >> i kept it right there. more investigation back home. man went home family. >> mr. smallwood tells me just spoke to his son this afternoon and things appeared to be getting better inside that dallas apartment. he told us the sheets and the towels that the ebola patient was using appeared to be being removed properly. everyone was optimistic and his son is not showing any symptoms of the virus. however, greta, is he frustrated that he did not get any information about his half-brother who is still in the hospital. >> okay, if mr. smallwood says that mr. duncan stayed behind for nine years, what suddenly made him come to texas? i mean, was there any discussion of leaving liberia because of the ebola epidemic? >> we didn't get into why he left liberia. i don't think it was because of the ebola epidemic. what he told us is that his half-brother recently got a visa to come to the u.s. to be with his family. apparently he has some relatives in dallas. that's why he was going there. and he got the visa and he decided to come. i don't think it was necessarily related to the ebola outbreak. he had been trying to get a visa for a while. once he got it, he left pretty much as soon as he could to come here. his brother also tells us that he did not have any symptoms when he arrived here in the u.s. >> all right, andrew, thank you. maybe we ought to explore who is getting visas, that might be an effective way to try to monitor. this thank you, andrew. new possible case of ebola in the u.s. right down the street from where i am. a washington, d.c. hospital has a patient in isolation after seeing signs of the deadly virus. for the latest wtte fox reporter alex alexander lemone joins us. what you can tell us about the patient at alexander university? >> there are actually now two possible cases in the d.c. area. one of those cases is being treated at howard university. the other, however, is being treated here at shady grove hospital in rockville, maryland. this is the latest possible ebola case we have learned about. this hospital tells us they have not yet confirmed if this is an ebola case but despite that that patient is in isolation because they have ebola-like symptoms and recently traveled to areas affected by ebola. so, likely somewhere in west africa. now, the other patient at howard university in d.c., that patient also has similar symptoms, also recently traveled to nigeria. and we have learned that that patient is actually a student who checked themselves into the hospital because they were feeling ill and howard university also says they are also keeping that patient under isolation as a precaution. both hospitals are waiting for test results to confirm whether or not these are ebola cases. but they are concerned and being very cautious because of where both of these patients recently traveled to, greta. >> alexandra, thank you. and the experimental drug hopes to be the wonder drug z map. credited with the saving the lives of the first two americans who contracted the ebola. this is the problem, and it is a huge one, there is no more of it. so now what? professor eric alman with the research institute is part of the team that developed it. she was on the record. nice to see you again. >> nice to be here. >> you are the expert. how fast you can create more? and what's in the way? it can't be made overnight. it has to be yen to. this is the thing. sheets are research products. those research days. we have never seen ebola outbreak on this scale before. other diseases were higher priority last year. so, the teams that make the antibodies vaccines are working as fast as they can to makes a much as they can and get to the people that need it. the people infected right now, the best course of action is to contain and control. to identify the cases and get them the proper medical treatment that they need. now, this is the major problem at this point. there is 50 new cases in sierra leone. those beds are full. more medical teams and more beds. the other things that are needed are more diagnostics. a lot of these viruses look the same. ebola start with a fever and headache. every one of us have had a fever and headache before. >> all right. >> there is another virus called lasa that is endemic in western africa. thousands of cases every year. endemic in the same places. a lot of these places people could be infected with lasa. diagnostic from one. mundane flu or malaria that needs the highest level of isolation. there is a company called core genics that has one in 15 minutes and i have worked with it myself. >> i call it the wonder drug which probably makes you a little crazy that i say that because we are so desperate to have the a drug that does the trick. seven people have taken it so far two have died out of seven. pretty good odds. one of the biggest problems often is government regulation. they get in the way. are there any regulations that are getting in the way now in terms of you getting this to market faster? >> well, my expertise is i'm the molecular biologist that figures out how it works. the government regulatory agencies have working as fast as they can to move these things as fast as they can. i haven't seen this to be a big problem. but, you know, the doses have to be made. this is a research product and the human doses just simply weren't available and that gave away everything they had. more is in production and they are working as hard as they can on that. >> all right. if you started today, for one dose, how soon could you make that? >> i don't know this really isn't my expertise. the focus needs to be letting the people who do that manufacturing as fast as they can. focus on getting the teams in the care and the beds to the patients. to developing faster diagnostics so we can tell somebody who has flu from somebody who has ebola. >> all right. thank you very much for joining us. and you understand that i just have sort of a sense of desperation. i understand -- >> -- we all do. >> i know you do too. you know a lot more about it than i do. so, anyway. professor, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. this is a fox news alert. isis releasing a vicious new video showing the beheading of a second british hostage and warning an american captive will be next. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us. horrible news. >> it is. i have taken a look at the video. it's somewhat shorter than the previous execution videos that runs about 1 minute and 40 seconds. a similar format. this one begins with the british parliament approving the joining of the u.s. led collision with the air strikes. then it goes to that very familiar shot you see there on the screen with the hostage and then the executioner. >> this seems to be a direct response to the british parliament vote? >> correct. this is what is important in these videos, time stamped very specific references supposed to communicate we are responding to you. we are responding in realtime to your action. this is the warning to you. not that this is ancient history but they are moving in a very expeditious way. >> the american, that's next. what you can tell me about him or her? >> what i would say about these videos is this group is really going down the same track we saw with al qaeda. they don't put up false videos of executions or of identifying their victims. and they identify the american in this video as someone called peter and based on our research, he is former military, former army ranger and he had left the military medically discharged honorably and began the syrian assistance group when he was kidnapped in october of last year. until now the family has remained silent thinking it would help its case. >> any idea how many americans would be held. >> that's a great question. the ball park i always worked in based on my reporting has been about half a dozen. two as you know have been executed and now there is the threat of a third. the one that i think may be the most highly prized of the group, if you can put it in those terms is this woman from california about 24, 25, 26 years old. >> of course in case anyone has any doubt about islamic extremist, boko haram also executed nigerian pilot announced today. anyway, thank you. >> you are welcome. >> now an absolutely terrifying warning from military families. isis now using social media urging their supporters to go to military homes and slaughter the families in them. congressman peter king joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. how are you? >> very well. i guess we can't expect anything more from these savages than something like this. but this certainly does create, you know, more alarm here in the united states tonight. >> it really does it shows that isis is just focused on whether it's beheading people. weather it's threatening to slaughter american families of service is men and women. this is an evil, evil organization which in the past even terrorist organizations have tried to appeal to people, to show that there is a certain goodness about them. in this case isis wants everyone to know they are evil. they decided to go the route of terrifying everyone. >> and usually think of war as sort of soldier on soldier. here they actually want to go after the military families. of course, we have seen with the beheading that the justification for tonight's beheading is because of the british parliament vote. this group will stop at absolutely nothing. what are we doing to alert or prepare our military families? >> first of all, the military has to be on guard. they have been notified by the pentagon that they should be -- for instance have their eyes only all the time. be aware of everything. don't list any phone numbers, addresses, email addresses. don't give any indication about their family, their family members. they should not really put anything out there whether it's on facebook or anywhere on the social media themselves or even in old fashioned telephone directories. nothing about them that the enemy could find. in effect, it's almost like being under cover. you know, they are in, i hate to say almost like a witness protection program that these families have to try to put themselves into to, you know, protect themselves from this type of attack. especially if they are families that are overseas. remember, these don't have to be families close to the firing line, which they wouldn't be. but anyone who can you identified as a member of the military family has to be on the lookout. >> all right. you arennen the counter terrorism subcommittee. that what is your assess isment of the president's strategy and how is he doing? >> i support it as far as it goes. i mean, obviously the air attacks were essential. i think we need more massive air attacks and they should have begun sooner. now that we have started them they have to be massive. we have to realize even though we have a coalition quote unquote. the fact is the u.s. is going to do the overwhelming amount of the fighting. for this to be effective the president should not be ruling anything out. he should not be saying there is no american boots on the ground. >> he has said that he has told them that, no boots on the ground. >> and wrong. wrong to say that he should stop saying it. and he should let the enemy think that we're willing to do everything and anything. we are willing to stay there 100 years if we have to. willing to use every weapon at our disposal ifjust may deciy or slow it down. and the fact that he keeps talking about what he is not going to do, one thing that does he alert the enemy but also causes potential allies to wonder just how serious he is. >> congressman can, nice to see you, sir. >> thank you, greta. thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. and american boots on the ground, well, fighting isis, well, that's right. an army veteran from wisconsin apparently joining the kurds in their battle against isis. not the only american. fox news confirming the kurdish government getting calls from navy seals, army rangers and marines, all volunteering to come join the fight. sergeant johnny jones joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> good evening, greta. sergeant, what do you think about this? a man from wisconsin has already gone over age 28. he was fighting the kurdish people. >> well, you know, i read the army times article. it was very brief. not a lot of detail and spent one year in the army. you can't car him a war veteran. is he is obviously a veteran of the army. has my respect. but, in my opinion, nothing good can come from veterans or reservists or any american trying to go there. and fight alongside the kurds without our government or military sending them there. >> well, sergeant thrrkts certainly are a lot of people who are quite enraged and understandably so. you see these videos and read these stories about isis taking over these kurdish towns on the border and stuff. you know, i understand it but it does seem like it would lend itself to a lot of chaos. >> well, exactly. you know, you see everything from a marine jailed down in mexico and seems like we are doing nothing to help him out. and you have these towns and cities in iraq taken over after so many of our brothers and sisters died to take them for the peaceful there. at the end of the day. for an active duty service member to deploy, there is a training package. there is intelligence necessary we don't go over there and point a gun and pull a trigger. we are diplomats. we do nation building. we knock on doors and help people out. we empower the innocent people to take over their area from the bad people. we're not just there pulling triggers and kill people. if we are going to do an air strike. we need intelligence so we are striking the right place and doing the right thing. if we can't coordinate that without some type of physical presence then what can one or two or three wrap bows do seas fighting alongside curetedz? in my mind not a lot. except bring in the opportunity for isis to kidnap someone. my condolences go out to those who have been kidnapped and have been executed. i see nothing but bad news from something like this. >> certainly seems like a death wish to go over by yourself to sort of align yourself with any group at this point it. >> absolutely. you know, if this authority authority-o-story is true. i hope it he makes it back safe and our government does more in the physical war and propaganda to let our enemies know we will come after them and destroy them. as far as what's going on in iraq and syria with ice is sis. we created a vacuum there and up to us to make sure we finish that job and allow those innocent people to take control of lives country. >> thank you sergeant jones. >> thank you. >> did vice president biden say terrorism is not a threat to the u.s.? you are going to hear directly from the vice president. and then former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. john bolton is standing by to go "on the record." also new developments right now in the disappearance of university of virginia co-ed hannah graham. "on the record" takes to you charlottesville just moments away. plus, now it's senator john mccain's turn. he is making a big modify to try to free our u.s. marine jailed in mexico. what is senator mccain doing? that's straight ahead. [light instrumental music] ♪ female announcer: recycle your old fridge and get $50. schedule your free pickup at: people worried about the terrorist threat making and that's losing perspective. you don't want to overstate the threat but you don't want to understate it. what he is saying is just simply wrong. number one, it's premature. today is terrorism and existential threat? not yet, but the whole point is we are worried that as it metastasizes, as it gets nuclear weapons it will become existential threat. >> i agree the whole alarmist thing is bad. i worry are we properly warning people or scaring people unnecessarily. i don't know which. the lack of sort of addressing what was going on in syria because we felt quite comfortable. now brings us or the president did, rather, now brings us to where we are where it is metastasized cancer. it's got a lot bigger and trying to give it chemotherapy and it's a little lavment. >> given the administration's lack of credibility on its diagnosis of what the problem is, it's a huge mistake for biden to be saying don't worry there is no existential threat. nuclear weapons are an existential threat. chemical and biological weapons can be existential threat. people think that the only existential threat was the kind of exchange of nuclear salvos we might have had with the soviets with the cold war where civilization ends that's existential. imagine a terrorist state with five nuclear weapons detonated over five key american cities, you don't think that would end the effective existence of america as we know it i think you need to think again. >> what he said to 60 minutes he made very serious threat the other night. the other thing the other night with all these beheadings and knowing an american is next. it's hard for me to say it's not existential threat. it really is for some families tonight. >> it's certainly the kind of threat that we need to take seriously. and when you observe as biden does more likely to be hit by a meteorite than a terrorist that is true. that was true about pearl harbor, too. it doesn't make the threat any less real. it is inconceivable to me why an administration whose credibility has been so shredded by reality that somebody like joe biden, who's to be the next president would say something like that. >> he should have said nothing about it. >> everything we can to make sure it doesn't become an existential threat. >> indeed. ambassador, thank you, sir. >> and "on the record" has been covering new information of missing co-ed hannah graham mystery. uva student vanishing three weeks ago. ted williams is on the case. he is "on the record" next. also, people beaten and bloodied on the streets of hong kong. take a look at this. we have new video coming into fox right now ♪ want to change the world? create things that help people. design safer cars. faster computers. smarter grids and smarter phones. think up new ways to produce energy. ♪ be an engineer. solve problems the world needs solved. what are you waiting for? changing the world is part of the job description. [ male announcer ] join the scientists and engineers of exxonmobil in inspiring america's future engineers. energy lives here. developing now the search is wydening for missing uva student hannah graham. disappearing for thatly three weeks ago. shocking information from four other cases that may link to the key suspect in hannah's disappearance. jest jesse matthew is the suspect. griff jenkins and ted williams are on the ground in charlottesville investigating. >> three weeks ago, university of virginia student hannah graham mysteriously vanishing. and for charlottesville, virginia, her story is anything but unusual five women in the last five years have gone missing here in the charlottesville area. if i'm investigating this, got to look into it. got to see if there is any connection. >> police have established a link between hannah and morgan harrington who, on october 17th, 2009, disappeared soon after leaving this charlottesville arena. >> she took off and started walking away from here alone. >> morgan heads down the street, crossing this fateful bridge. >> she was hitchhiking. and in hitchhiking that means one thing, she was trying to get a ride from one location to another. >> and that's where jesse matthew may come in. >> maybe she entered a cab and one thing we know is that jesse matthew was a cab driver. >> just a month after morgan's disappearance, police find her t-shirt in these bushes. a break in the case that forensic experts may be able to use to link morgan with jesse matthew. >> that is gold to a law enforcement officer. >> of course, morgan and hannah are not alone. sandra martin in lynchburg, which is about an hour's drive down route 29 went also missing. her remains were found. the crime has been unresolved. >> but what's matthew's connection? >> jesse matthew attended liberty university in lynchberg. >> and it doesn't stop there. >> griff, there is a fourth woman missing. samantha ann clark lived in virginia about 30 minutes away from here went missing in september 2010. that is also an unresolved murder. >> in november of 2012, another unresolved disappearance in november 2012 a transgender went missing in this neighborhood. this is another thing, another case that law enforcement will be looking at when they look at jesse matthew. >> the question is: will police be able connect the dots? >> charlottesville definitely has a problem with missing girls, and someone is trying in law enforcement to try to connect the dots, to try to to determine do you have a serial killer or these isolated incidents of missing girls. former homicide detective ted williams joins us. talk about police connecting the dots. if you have five disappearance in the same area. why does it take to the fifth one before you try to figure out maybe they are the same maybe if they had done it earlier we wouldn't have gotten up to five. >> you have got something there. i cannot understand for the life of me. one of the reasons that they may be jesse matthew did not have from what we understand a felony record. so therefore, his d.n.a. was not on file i do know aggressive investigation. maybe that would have led to jesse matthews. fifth one. >> hannah graham is getting a lot of attention. morgan harrington, when she went missing in 2009, she had also been given a lot of attention. but what when you must understand when you look at jesse matthews are two things. motive and opportunity motive we know christian newport university was sexual assault. lynchberg assault. motive, opportunity. he was a cab driver. >> also got -- schools, liberty you mentioned one, liberty university, uva, virginia tech, all these colleges, you know, in virginia. and i mean you would think that some detective would have thought why are so many women disappearing all these universities? and why wasn't there -- i mean, i know these aren't always easy to solve. about when we get up to five, i wouldn't want to be the one talking to the brown family if i worked for the police department. >> you have got to understand what law enforcement now, they are not looking so much in hindsight as they are looking for a break. certainly like to know is forensics concerning jesse matthew automobile. has that come back? can they come back. hannah graham with that automobile. >> he is in custody. so now they have d.n.a. from him presumably, right? >> university of missing women is five in the area? that's all they have? i am sure that they are looking not only that area but beyond that area, remember there was a one in fairfax county that was alleged to have been assaulted. >> he was a cab driver and we don't know if he went beyond. anyway, maybe he is not even the one who did it. who knows. he will get his trial. presumed innocent. ted, thanks. >> my pleasure. vice president biden slamming fellow democrats and not just any democrats. slamming former secretary of state hillary clinton and former cia director and former secretary of defense leon panetta. you won't believe what the vice president said this time. "on the record" political panel is standing by. plus, new video out of hong kong. protesters shocking the city. check mate for the chinese government? when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. former secretary of defense and director leon panetta slamming president obama for handling of iraq. vice president biden returning the punch slamming the director. vice president biden slamming panetta for writing inappropriate books on the obama administration. washington examiner susan father rich choo, jackie and laughed i wrote kaboom. what biden did was kaboom. went after panetta but also referring to secretary clinton. what's the problem? >> you see this certain administrations fairly often at this point in the administration. remember when condoleezza rice went after richard clark for which he wrote about iraq during the bush administration. i think biden has a reason to defend obama, obviously. and to go after hillary and i think that might be a little bit about 2016. >> any problem writing a book while the president is still sitting in office. he didn't complain about the content he complained about the timing. >> you have to remember that this is personal for him too because robert gibbs in his book vice president biden being wrong. robert gates yes on every foreign major policy decision for how many years. >> that wasn't panetta or clinton. >> right. >> he was part of that group. that was like their lunch table dogs there need to be a bile on right now. at war. do we need to be hearing more folks president obama especially former and administration officials. i think that's what he was getting at. >> i see a common theme here because in gates' book he says that both clinton and panetta, all three were upset that the president kept such tight reign over national security didn't let them in over the division. making decisions around them. during his tenure and putting a distance between themselves and the president. so i think this is just, you know, it's unusual, bush's staff did not write books until they were out of office both of them at the earliest. i think this is a pattern about people being really upset with the way he ran -- he has run national security. >> also a touch of don't blame me. what hillary clinton said in her book is she said that obama that she had pressed obama to arm the syrian mod democrats. he wouldn't with, now look at the mess we are in. don't blame me. >> she may run for president, too. >> panetta was critical of obama saying he shouldn't have withdrawn all the forces from iraq. don't blame me basically because they say. >> they are all saying he didn't let them in on these decisions that he kept them at a distance. three of them together said that. >> distance he made the wrong decision, they say. >> it is worth noting though that panetta and the collins are very close personally. >> factor here, i think, too. is that clinton she has got to distance herself clearly if she she runs for president which she is poised to do. >> the timing this is a time when president obama is making very serious decisions, you know, in the middle east, dealing with the new crisis just about every day. so, do we need more voices out there? >> you know, my theory on the panetta book it isn't out yet. i think this is all the publishers that they put all the red meat out for everyone to get upset about. the book may be 500 pages, 499 saying president obama is is the greatest president ever. say they leaked this bad thing and get everybody fired up and fire up the vice president and everybody else. >> that was hillary's book, too. marketing the publisher. >> is bryden running 2016? i say he gets out of the way if clinton decides to run. >> i think he toys with it until the very last minute. >> i just don't see it he is not taken seriously. there is no donors out there. they are all locked up. where is his operation? it's just not there. >> that's true. i think he is there in case she says no. >> i'm not convinced that hillary clinton is going to run. >> i'm not either. >> she is do everything she wants to do in terms of the clinton global initiative. >> would the party be mad at her? >> i don't know. who knows. anyway, it's not going to be dull. we know that for sure. anyway, panel, thank you. you have a wonderful weekend. and wipe out, government regulations and red tape is drowning small businesses. now, we're going to take you to a surf shop struggling to stay afloat next. test for over 60,000 california foster children, extra curricular activities help provide a sense of identity and a path to success. joining the soccer team. getting help with math. going to prom. i want to learn to swim. it's hard to feel normal, when you can't do the normal things. to help, sleep train is collecting donations for the extra activities that, for most kids, are a normal part of growing up. not everyone can be a foster parent... but anyone can help a foster child. [light instrumental music] ♪ female announcer: recycle your old fridge and get $50. schedule your free pickup at: now to or "on the record" investigation big government destroying small businesses. tonight we will take to you a small surf shop where increasing government rules and regulations are wiping out the business, literally. griff jenkins reports from ocean city, maryland. >> surf's up in ocean city, maryland. for one surfer's small business the surf isn't the only thing that's up. >> just got our health insurance renewals and it went up 41%. 41%. >> mark pew founded the caicos surf shop 25 years ago and for him and his 10 full-time employees health insurance premiums are are hitting him like a tidal wave. >> 22-year-old guy paying over $300 a month for $2,000 deductible plan. and it's gone up 41.07% from last year. i really don't know what we're going to do. not a lot of these smaller companies offer healthcare and we have chosen to and now, unfortunately, it is getting unaffordable for us to do. >> skyrocketing healthcare cost isn't the only problem. >> got the one-two punch on me. i have got increasing healthcare premiums, doubled up the state of maryland has just increased the minimum wage. it's going to eventually get up to $10.10 an hour. >> most of pew's standoff makes more than minimum wage anyways. since summer is the busy center caicos brings in an additional 40 temporary employees, mostly teenagers who make less than $10 an hour. >> most of our staff is 17, 18-year-old, 16-year-old kids. you know, they're not trying to raise a family on minimum wage. i can't pay 10 bucks an hour to a 16-year-old kid. from a higher price for summer employees means just one thing for mark. >> i'm going to have to cut six employees to keep our labor costs the same. >> for caicos surf shop a rising tide isn't enough to wash away rising healthcare costs in a a minimum wage increase. >> i would love to hire more people but we can't. the math just doesn't work. >> the caicos surf shop has been in business for 25 years. now its owners worry if they will be able to keep the doors open for another 25. let's all go off-the-record for main. here is a challenge we face here "on the record" on any very serious issue. and there are many weave have to report what to report, how much and how. take, for instance, ebola. it's here and it can dill kill you. the odds are against you if you get ebola. ebola is highly contagious and, admit it, who wants to to sit next to someone on a plane or a bus who has symptoms or being the healthcare worker at the emergency room who checks in the symptomatic person. so how should we report about ebola? 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>> absolutely. just as teurkey didn't help us n the overthrow of saddam hussein, it's a problem for the west and it underlines the fact up until now, there's been no u.s. military activity against isis in syria. that could change, but right now they have a safe haven and they're taking advantage of it. >> is turkey the main buyer of the black market oil from isis, which is at that reduced price? where isis is making money hand over fist already, but with an unlimited market, if turkey is going to continue to buy it, it makes it exceedingly difficult to pinch them. >> this is a very concrete test of turkey's sincerity and willingness to be a full participant in crushing isis, is to cut off the flow of oil and other commodities coming out of isis held territory and they have not done that so far. >> how do we get turkey on board. is there any way since they're so key to this? >> the real answer is for president obama to engage in a little bit more diplomacy with the leader who is supposed to be his best friend in the world among leaders, the president of turkey to say this instability, the threat along the border with syria is only going to grow worse if a new terror state, mainly the islamic state, takes root there. this is in turkey's interest to work with us and the fact they have nauot done so demonstrated how radical he is personally. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> leon panetta publicly criticizing president obama saying he and several members of the national security team in 2012 advised the president to arm the modern syrian rebels but the president did not. >> he had a fear if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where the weapons would wind up. my view is you have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> and joining us, our political panel. rick klein, the washington post wes lowry, and ron fournier. why now is secretary panetta, i know he has a back coming out, but is that the only reason. >> what's clear soome, in alternate history, it's pretty safe ground for democrats to rally behind. you see it from secretary panetta, also former secretary of state hillary clinton. there's a lot of folks with political future s on their min who want it on the record to say we advised something differently. to have panetta and clinton on the same page and others as well, what we're seeing is, hey, look, we had a different view here, and don't blame us if this all goes to hell. >> i can't believe, it looks like they're throwing him under the bus. it's not looking like anything but that. >> of course, and you see president obama getting this from both sides as well. >> you expect it from your political opponents. >> exactly, but foreign policy on the left is something where you have a lot of kind of monday morning quarterbacking because foreign policy is messy. it's harder than domestic policy where you can measure broad economic policies, republicans, foreign policy is a lot trickier because in a lot of places you're talking about areas of the world that we don't understand in the same way, talking about forces we don't have our arms around and also military decisions that sometimes a decision that looks like the right decision now, a year from now we know for a fact might not have been the right one. >> i guess in some ways and views, to borrow a term, they're making it look pretty jv, because if everybody advised him to arm the moderate serial rebels in syria and he didn't, and secretary panetta also said he was opposed to the iraq withdrawal as it was done, and there's mow more of a condemnation of the president's foreign policy than those two statements. >> part of this is you go back to the beginning. the country wasn't honest about how it got into iraq and wasn't smart about how it got out of iraq. >> honest or smart? honest or smart getting out? >> not very smart getting out. >> honest getting out? >> it's much easier to say we were dishonest about getting in than dishonest getting out. there's been some fudge, for example, ground troops, saying there won't be ground troops in iraq. there already are. the biggest problem was how fast we came out and the big vacuum we left behind, and the president now is facing the natural kind of second guessing you're going to get from the left, as rich and mr. lowry said, but also you have the generals coming after the president. part of that is, you know, we have a system of government where we don't want the girls. we shouldn't have the generals, everything they want being done, that we do leave the decision with the commander in chief, and there are no obvious right or wrong here. >> rick, i think it's pretty significant. i don't see anyone supporting the president. you have the generals and, i mean, you have the generals, the former cabinet officers, people in the room. now we have people dying in isis. is anyone saying the president made the right decision? >> not to be too flip about it, but sometimes the president doesn't seem to be agreeing with the president. we heard from samantha power over the weekend, the president hasn't made the decision to do the air strikes. i think there's a lot of uncertainty around this and a lot of worry about whether this is the right course, how to gauge it, how you're going to use the international community. there's a possibility of air strikes happening while he's at the united nations looking for support for air strikes. there's so many variables, but in terms of the political sport, we saw a different kind of -- >> the responses, you have generals coming out against you. that's really bad. >> well, but you know what? i think it would be bad if we didn't have generals coming out against him. if we didn't have a debate about this. wes is right, this is not an easy call to make. and i think rick is right that the president has made it harder on himself, and one of the better examples of that was just a few weeks ago when he said arming the rebels was a fantasy, and somewhere along the lines it becama policy and they haven't explained when or why that happened. >> panel, thank you. this is a fox news alert. a massive manhunt for a cop killer in pennsylvania. they're hot on the trail of the survivalist they believe gunned down one state trooper and wounded another. rick? >> and greta, a lot of activity again here tonight. roads blocked in the area. heavily armed police and federal ageents continued to roll up and down the hill behind us, which leads to a temporary command post run by the pennsylvania state police which is coordinating this massive search involving hundreds of local and state police as well as federal agents including several fbi s.w.a.t. teams and up to three helicopters at a time headi flying over our heads, using heat radars. police have said repeatedly they're closing in, and over the weekend, they found, they believe, evidence of the man in the wood. an ak-47 and other items and we heard from sources they believed they were getting closer, but the man is still believed to be armed and on the loose. school is closed for the fourth day today. and a lot of people were either stuck in their homes or stuck outside of their homes and couldn't get back in because of the road blocks and security concerns. we met a local man who told us he worked work for three straight nights because authorities wouldn't let him leave his house. greg wilson shared some pictures with us he took from inside the house of heavily armed police outside his windows, in his yard, checking out his treehouse and his property. he said it can't be over soon enough. a couple hours ago, police did escort a number of neighbors including wilson up to hill back to their homes. that means the man could have spent at least one more night of freedom in the woods. >> rick, is he from around there? does he have friends or family? and what was his motive for this? >> he lives with his parents just a couple miles from here. and spent a lot of time in these woods. in fact, family says he would disappear for days at a time to hone his survival skills here in the poconos. so basically, this was his backyard. his friends, apparently, were these war re-enactors and he would play soldier in many cases, and they believe that he developed a hate for law enforcement when he was arrested for stealing memorabilia at a world war ii re-enactment in new york. he spent three months and jail, and since then, he has had this hatred for law enforcement and apparently developed his plan to shoot and kill state troopers over a period of months if not years and may have tastashed a t of stuff in the woods to help sustain him in the search period. >> rick, thank you. our nation's nightmare was just confirmed by the obama administration. senior obama administration official says some of the americans who went to fight with isis are now back in the u.s. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani on this new terror threat to the homeland. that's next. plus, on the record investigates. we have new information about the man wanted for questioning in the disappearance of a university of virginia student. the latest on the search for hannah graham coming up. but when you try to get one by using your travel rewards card miles... those seats mysteriously vanish. why? 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>> now we have to really redouble our efforts to find these people, to gather the intelligence. unfortunately, this is a situation that we were caught really with our pants down. not knowing enough about them, not having enough information about them. it means that there's heightened security. i was just over at the united nations. when i was the mayor, this used to be the worst week of my year when we had, you know,0 of state here and the amount of security that's necessary. i would say the amount of security in new york now is substantially higher than i have seen in a very long time. so this is something that -- this is something we have to take extremely seriously, and then, of course, the call from isis to -- for people to go act on their own, that is very, very difficult to detect because you're not going to get -- you're not going to get communications that you can intercept. you're not going to have informants that are going to get you the information. you're just igniting all these people who are self-proclaimed jihadists to do whatever crazy thing they want to do. >> it's terrible. i don't need to tell you 19 people did what they did in 2 1 2001. now the administration is talking about 100. i think the administration is understated. what they have done, they said it includes those who have gone, those who have tried to go, and some who have come back are in 100. then i look and say what about those who are still here who are recruit recruiters, what about those who are still here raising funds? how many are really involved in the group? >> i seem to recall but i could be wrong, so i hes tate, there was a number they put out about 500, and now it's gone down to 100. i think what that really indicates is the level of intelligence here is not very good. which of course is not very helpful. and the reality is this is a group that we don't have the kind of experience we had with al qaeda. and you know, there's a point to the withdrawal of the troops that nobody makes. when we had 100,000 troops ipiraq and 20,000 or 30,000 troops in afghanistan, we were getting a lot of information. when you have that many troops, running into people, they're interrogating peep, they're gathering information. we get a great deal more information back. since we now have no troops or maybe the 1600 that we just put in, you know, for a couple years now, we have been getting much less information than when we had a major military presence in the area of the world where people were planning to come here and kill us. >> you know, how in the world do you know, when you think about all this, it's hard to think whether you're being an alarmist or being practical and it's just so hardwe to determine. but let me ask you about something else. national preparedness month. what's that? >> it's named by fema to get people to prepare for the kinds of disasters that they have. disasters that can be big ones, little ones, believe it or not, i mean, the disasters that happen most often are sinks and toilets and air conditioners and heating and blowing up or water pi pipes. what people should do, i work with a company called home serve, what they're doing on september 25th is having national tune-up day. what they're suggesting is you get all of these things checked out, and you go get yourself some protection against this. th people should start thinking about keeping in their homes flashlights, food, medical supplies, think about the fact that maybe just maybe you might have to spend some time in your house, and not have everything available. definitely have an emergency radio. i don't want to frighten people. no reason to get terribly frightened, but there's also no reason not to prepare, and if it isn't terrorism, it's a natural disaster. and the same preparation is needed for both. but getting yourself some kind of protection for your water pipes and your heating and air conditioning is really a good thing. home serve is a great company. there are other great companies. i happen to work with one of them, but there are a lot of good ones. >> i remember when i was a kid going around to the neighbors who had bomb shelters, you know, dried food in case we got nuked by the russians or something when i was a kid, so might want to see if the food is still there. anyway, thank you, sir. >> thank you very much, greta. and who is the man on the wanted poster? 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our reporters had the latest from charlottesville, but first their investigation. >> people saw hannah. and people saw him. and people saw them together. >> shocking new evidence surrounding the night hannah graham mysteriously disappeared. police claiming they have proof she was with this man, jesse matthew, just moments before vanishing without a trace. >> we now know according to law enforcement that when they left tempo restaurant, this restaurant here, that they went out and came out here and they went to the left. >> and one week after hannah's disappearance, jesse matthew suddenly showing up at the charlottesville police station. >> they talked to him, they provided him according to the authorities with an attorney. from all indications he did not actually tell them anything. and he left here. and he walked back out of these doors, walked back down this street, got into a car, and we know the rest of the story later. >> the rest of the story is where things get even more strange. jesse takes off in this car, leading police and federal agents on a high speed chase. that's where the case goes cold. >> i believe that jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> so who is jesse matthew, and is he behind hannah graham's mysterious disappearance? on the record went to his apartment hunting for clues. >> this is the apartment complex that jesse matthew lives. there were witnesses, sources, who saw jesse matthew at this apartment with a white girl, but that white girl that they saw him with did not fit the description of hannah graham. >> but did hannah graham ever visit this apartment? >> what is significant and important about this is as what is going on right now. there are investigators in there. they're trying to determine if there is any evidence in there that can associate hannah graham being missing and jesse matthew. >> but the real clues might actually lie where jesse matthew worked, at the university of virginia hospital medical center. >> it's significant and important. normally, you find that where a person works, they have friends. and they have established a ruport with those friends, and" it's important for law enforcement to be able to talk to the employees here because they, meaning employees who work with jesse matthew, may have that one nugget that law enforcement needs. >> at this point, it's unclear if the police will get what they need. and for the time being, the search for hannah graham still not over. >> this is sort of like a needle in a haystack. they're searching, meaning the authorities, these vast proportion of areas. they're checking the streams, they're checking in the bushes. they're checking along the highways. they're checking buildings. or it is a -- a search of an epic proportion for law enforcement. as a matter of fact, it's law enforcement's worst nightmare, and the search for hannah graham continues. >> and ted williams joins us live from charlottesville. let me ask you a couple quick basic questions. her cell phone, any information about whether her cell phone has been pinging off towers to help locate her? >> no, greta. i asked that question during the course of an interview this morning, and we were told that there is nothing that they have found so far concerning the cell phone, but the cell phone is still important. not only the cell phone of hannah graham but also the cell phone now of jesse matthew, who is missing. >> all right, jesse matthew and the police talked to him, have any scratches on his face or any injuries at all to look like he might recently have been in some sort of struggle? >> greta, that is an excellent question. they talked to jesse matthew. i don't believe that they took any pictures or they were able to actually look his body over. but at this stage, there is a warrant out for him for reckless driving. and if they bring him in, they then can get a warrant for a body search. and it's very significant for them to get to him early because they may very well be able toby show some defensive wounds or scratches uthis body, and that's significant. >> all right, have they gone through his car with a fine toothed comb to see if there's any hair fibers or hair, fibers? >> we hope to know tomorrow afternoon about what forensics may or may not have been found in jesse matthew's automobile. that also is going to be significant because they're going to look for hairs, fibers, any connections with hannah graham being in the automobile of jesse matthew. and that is important because jesse has said that he had never had hannah graham in his automobile. they are looking for that connection. that nexus, greta. >> ted, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> and what actually do police want to ask jesse matthew? that person of interest? we're going to talk one-on-one with the charlottesville police chief next. you off the record, something very unfair is being done to you. i'll tell you how, by whom, and why. off the record, coming up. just take a closer look. it works how you want to work. with a fidelity investment professional... or managing your investments on your own. helping you find new ways to plan for retirement. and save on taxes where you can. so you can invest in the life that you want today. tap into the full power of your fidelity greenline. call or come in today for a free one-on-one review. hi! can i help you? 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if somewhere during the course of the night they parted ways, we need to know that, too, because we have to continue to investigate this as aggressively as we can. >> and no known whereabouts of where jesse is now or any contact from a lawyer of any kind? >> i have not spoken to any attorney that represents jesse, whether investigators have or not, certainly that's something i wouldn't be at liberty to discuss at this point. i'm hopeful if such discussions take place, it results in mr. matthew surrendering himself into custody on his own accord, and that hopefully revisiting the opportunity to talk with him. so he gives us a chance to learn what his interaction with hannah was. we're focusing on that discussion, but by the same token, we're not focusing so strong that we're losing the big picture, we can't get tunnel vision in this case. >> so let's go back to jesse and that part of the investigation. what have you learned, if any, from evidence that would put hannah in his car or anything of that nature? >> well, i was really hopeful that we would hear something back from the lab today. i have learned just about an hour ago that that is not going to happen. it will more likely happen tomorrow and tomorrow afternoon at that. so we really, that's, as you know, that's a critical piece when you're looking for forensic evidence to link persons to a particular thing or location. that's pretty critical in an investigation. so it's just one piece, mind you, but it's a critical piece nonetheless. we're also canvassing, recanvassing for video surveillance in a much broader way. >> bottom line, chief, what would most help you? what do you need right now to further this investigation? >> we need jesse matthew, i need jesse matthew to come in and talk to us. i need to hear about hispx with hannah. >> and griff jenkins joins us live. everybody is immensely suspicious of jesse matthew, but they should keep looking in other directions as well. in terms of jesse matthew, any idea about his background? does he have a criminal record, for instance? not that that would necessarily make him the one who did it here, but does he have a criminal record? >> we talked to the chief. he said jesse matthew does have a criminal record with some misdemeanors on it, and we're going to be looking tomorrow into who he is. the chief said don't have toning vision about this, it's not all about jesse, but here, all signs point to him. that's why the latest developments in this investigation here involve jesse matthew. first the wanted poster, as ted williams says, in all of his years as a criminal defense attorney, he's never seen a wanted poster go out for a guy on reckless driving. that happened today. that's raising the alarm for folks to look for jesse. also there's a new search warrant at jesse's apartment today. ted and i were there as well. they were looking for specific articles of clothing. we're not sure whether they fount what they were looking for. we do know that jesse matthew is a local born guy, and folks know who he is, and we're going to learn much more about his story tomorrow. >> thank you.#/ç we'll see what you find out tomorrow night. >> and a benghazi whistle blower now claiming former secretary of state clinton's staff department heard files. so i can focus on what matters most. 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you heard the story right here, broken by sheryl atkinson, and raymond maxwell accusing staff members of hillaryfa!oz clinton secretly removing politically damaging documents before turning over files to the accountability review board. our next guest said we should believe maxwell, and peter is here to tell us why. good evening. >> good evening. thank you for having me. >> you have spoken to at least at some time to mr. maxwell, is that correct? >> yes, i have. >> do you believe him? >> i do. i believe him because he is credible. he is a state department person who served his country for a number of years both in the military and inside the state he's the kind of person who would think very carefully about what he was going to say, who would try to defend the institution in hopes it would c he's the kind of person who would consider very carefully what he had to say and what he has said tracks. the pla3$p'r he's described, th people he said were there, the actions that they took, are things that make sense to me as a former state department employee. >> am i correct when you move around in the state department, there's a record of who goes into what room in the more secure areas and this file room area, is that correct? >> this gets beyond the question of whether we should believe maxwell or not. the state department is a secure facility in general, and people coming and going, particularly on a sunday, which is when this review would have taken place, there should be records of who is coming in and out of the building. in a very secret facility, underground, if you will, and going in and out of that room is not something that would be done casually. there would be security involved and records of who was using the room and for what purposes. this should not be difficult to establish as something thatt-2 happened or did not happen. i don't think we have to depend on ray maxwell to find out. >> that's what i think is particularly interesting. that would mean someone would call that corroborative evidence. it seems to me that the committee that's investigating this would be within -- would be important or smart for them to do is try to max his dates to see whether or not, i guess he see whether or not, i guess he accused jake sullivan and mills of being in the room. those are the two staffers, right? if you could place them on a afternoon, a sunday afternoon, using their cards to get in the secure area, they would have some explaining to do why they were there. >> instead, what happens is i'm afraid what happened to me. that is attacks against the person himself, and questions of his credibility. rather than focusing on the information itself, which is either true or false, the attacks focus on the person. is he credible, why did he wait so long, is he a disgruntled employee out for revenge? when i was under attack from the state department for my whistle blowing about iraq, i would stipulate, i'm a terrible person, i'm mean to babies and don't take care of dogs well, but so what? what matters is the information itself. in this case about benghazi. what ray maxwell said should be easy to prove or #kkdisapprove. the question is why the state department hasn't answered this, and in fact, tried tohg$wd- around the question by simply not saying whether it happened or did not. >> well, chairman gowdy on the hill was a former prosecutor and áuját else is watching, they will now try to seek those records because that would tend to corroborate not necessarily prove everything that mr. maxwell says, but that certainly would be a reason to pursue it further. but that's what i would do. i would start getting those records. anyway, peter thank you very much for joining us. >> it was my pleasure.[çhf÷ >> all right, let's go off the record for a minute. the secret service did a lousy agents brought hookers to their hotel rooms in colombia, and seven days uz go, some agent had one agent passed out in a hotel hall way, and now two white house security incidents in 24 hours. one intruder making it 70 yards from the white house fence. how did that happen? 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good morning. it is tuesday, september 23. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. for the first time the united states launching airstrikes against isis in syria. >> the bombings are part of an historic alliance. five arab nations working with the united states to help destroy terrorists. >> but how will syria react? and are we safe at home? right here at home. because many have come over here after serving over this. "fox & friends" on this tuesday starts right now. i wasn't kidding. i meant right now. >> we want to thank you for joining us. we're going to get right to that fox news alert for you. overnight the united states and five arab allies launching airstrikes in syria against isis terrorists. until now the attacks have been concentrated in iraq. >> doug luzader is in washington, d.c. doug, things got started last night about 9 p.m. eastern time. what do we know so far? >> reporter: the focus of these strikes has been in syria. what is a little bit surprising about this perhaps, all of the arab nations that were involved in this, these five were involved to one degree or another, four out of those five took part in the attacks themselves. we have amateur video believed to be showing the impact of these airstrikes. you're talking about strikes that were carried out by carrier-based aircraft as well as 47 tom hawk cruise missiles. as the president will say this was a collective effort. it does raise the question what's next. isis fighters have known for days the u.s. intended to launch these strikes. many figured isis will regroup and many -- may use the attacks to boost recruitment efforts. >> they're going to hunker down especially in eastern syria and iraq. they have been through this before and know what to expect when american airstrikes come. >> one final note of the timing on this. congress has already left town, so these strikes began after congress left for their recess. that is interesting because this was this ongoing question of whether the president would need congressional authority to do this. we don't know if that's why they waited to this point to launch the strikes, but there are certainly going to be some members of congress that will raise some eyebrows offense the the -- eyebrows over the timing of this. >> meanwhile after the airstrikes, israeli defense forces, in another fox news alert, israelis shot down a syrian jet that entered its airspace. is that related? john huddy live in jerusalem. what was that jet doing that the israelis shot it out of the sky? >> reporter: looks like they were hitting rebel targets. rebel factions have been battling the syrian government right along the israeli border on the syrian side. it appears at this point that the fighter jet, the syrian fighter strayed into israeli airspace and then israel shot it down with a patriot missile. really at this point it's not connected with the u.s. airstrikes that are going on. remember, the israeli border is to the south, is in the southern part of syria and a lot of fighting with isis has been to the north. so that said, the syrian foreign ministry issued a statement earlier saying that the american side -- by the way, we got amateur video of smoke from that fighter jet as it went down. we're hearing the pilots were able to eject in time. syria's foreign ministry in terms of the u.s. airstrikes that have been going on, released a statement saying that the american side informed syria's permanent envoy to the u.n. that the strikes will be launched against the -- terrorist organization in rakah. it is in the northern part of syria. it's been a main battle front, all that area isis has controlled between the syrian government and isis as well. when president obama announced this 12 days ago, the syrian government and syrian officials said without consent from damascus it would be considered an act of aggression. whether syria has given its consent is unclear. but syria's deputy prime minister is in new york. he will be speaking, or scheduled to speak on monday followed by israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu. whether any of this will come up in terms of the fighter being shot down -- and remember, i also want to point out that there was a syrian drone that israel also shot down a couple weeks ago because of the fighting along the border. so, again, it does not look whae hearing from the israeli army that this has anything to do with the u.s. airstrikes or syria's response. >> syria was informed by their foreign minister yesterday that they were going to be hitting, we were going to be hitting and it was going to be that night. they did not say a word. why would they? it works on their behalf because isis eventually was going to get to the government. when you look at this coalition, it is significant. and the president really should be praised as well as secretary of state john kerry. he got bahrain, saudi arabia, the u.a.e. you even have qatar working with the u.s. to attack isis sites. the u.s. on its own struck a different area, we understand, against a brand-new terror group that some say is more dangerous. >> al qaeda fighters from pakistan and afghanistan migrated into syria. there were eight separate attacks that occurred there by the united states forces only. >> you know what's curious about the announcement? by the way, we should point out the pentagon announced last night at 9:30 eastern time that the bombing started. yet there was a guy on the ground in raqqa who was on twitter saying the sky is filled with drones. what is curious is after the fighting actually started, the pentagon through one of its spokes people -- by the way we're going to talk to admiral kirby in about an hour to find out what's going on over there. somebody from the pentagon, a spokesperson said last night was the most intense night of the syrian airstrike campaign. all the fighting for the most part, they make it sound like, just happened. if you're isis, it's kind of like we made it through the night, we'll probably be okay tomorrow. >> maybe. >> looks like they're fighting arm in arm in terms of these airstrikes here. it raises eyebrows to think all partners here, arab nations, none are european nations. everyone has eyes on turkey. will they step up and join the united states, the coalition of arab nations in these air airstrikes. this is significant because it is not the religious war, not the religious attack isis claimed. it undermines their argument that this is about theory and religion because you have sunni fighting extremes. >> it's very significant that we have four arab muslim countries, all sunni-based countries attacking a sunni-based terrorist organization. that did not come easy. many of these were urging the united states to do something about assad before, but now this is isis. so it is significant, in my judgment. qatar not attacking. qatar, i think, has problems because they have been aiding isis financially from the beginning, and they also aid hamas. and i always felt we have to do something about this country. maybe this is an indication that they're willing to change their stripes. i doubt it. we'll see what happens. >> i thought ità÷ was also interesting too that egypt said, who was not involved in this, not only are we willing to help. we think the u.s. should expand it to other terrorists beyond syria and iraq. >> the agreement established under george bush, congress authorize use of force is what it goes back to in terms of did we actually get approval here? they're using the ability to go after al qaeda here in the case of isis. >> we just into our news room received more video of some of the airstrikes overnight. there so far have been varying reports of the number of airstrikes but let's go ahead and take a look at what we just got into the news room. >> that is one of the 47 tomahawks shot off last night. the u.s. and our coalition partners, drones, bombers, fighters, tomahawks and for the first time in combat history we deployed the stealth f-22. that was used over this as well as we detail what a tomahawk does and how much it cost. $1.5 million a copy. we shot off 47 of them. >> about 20 targets. >> we have about one aircraft -- i -- we have one aircraft carrier. it is important there are base attacks from the u.a.e., bahrain and saudi arabia who we thought would only commit to train the free syrian army. now we find out they're willing to take action. >> we have three aircraft carriers which are really good. world reaction? the president is going to find out a little later on today. he's going to be here in new york city for the united nations general assembly, going to be talking about the climate change today. but it sounds like he's going to try to rally the world tomorrow. speaking of the world, russia has condemned the airstrikes against isis because we did not coordinate them with syria. we did call syria and we said we're going to strike. don't try to shoot us down or that would be really bad. >> russia has one real ally in the area. the whole dating thing with egypt did not work out. they have a huge naval base right in syria and they are extremely concerned, as is iran, about losing assad. we're hitting isis, who would in a sense be an enemy of the shia government. eventually we're going to get to them, and that's what russia worries about. >> there is concern there. the lesser of the two evils we're aiming to fight now and what will come. will turkey jump into this airstrike game, to put it mildly there? >> they look at syria. when assad got shaky, turkey rejoiced. they want him out. >> whatever we do, russia is not going to like it. look, we're out to get isis. they're out to kill us, and we're out to get them first. meanwhile 11 minutes after 6:00 eastern time here in new york city. coverage continues in a minute. up next, the war on isis has come to our doorstep. late-breaking details on isis fighters who are on american soil as we speak. >> and a major update to those three afghan soldiers who disappeared from the military base right here in the united states. they were found at the canadian border. what in the world were they doing there? keep it right here. you can eat that on weight watchers? looks amazing. looks like my next dinner party. that's only 4 points? with weight watchers you can enjoy the food you really want. dine out on favorites... or cook up something new. i can do this every day. join for free and start losing weight now. learn how to eat healthier, while enjoying the foods you love. get inspired at meetings, online, or both. weight watchers because it works. ♪ ♪ "here i am. rock you like a hurricane." ♪ fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. i can face my 3rd grade class trip. tying shoes, fixing pigtails, and chasing after them when their wonder turns to wander. hannah. new tena instadry. designed for those unexpected leaks with 864 tiny funnels to zip wetness away. and even when you twist not a drop escapes. that's fearless protection poise maximum can't match. (teacher) and i can stay perfectly dry. with tena, i'm not afraid. and you won't be either. call 1-877-get-tena. u.s. military might in the middle of the red sea. you've got overnight firing off at least one of 47 tomahawks that were deployed against isis locations in the country of syria. that's right. if you're just waking up, we went to war last night with syria. the syria-based isis locations. we're not at war with syria. we're simply trying to take out isis, which is in syria, which makes it a little more complicated. >> it must be a fantasy for those who fought in iraq who knew syria was a haven to all the al qaeda elements and all those who came into iraq to fight against us. we couldn't go across that line. we were unable to go across that line. we were afraid of expanding the war. now here we are years later forced to go across that line and syria sits there on their hands because they know that's an enemy they can't handle. >> in the persian gulf we have a crew of c-tomahawks and will be fired from that. for you, the enemy is among us. the white house confirming american fighters for isis are back on suflt -- u.s. soil. peter doocy from washington with the latest on that. good morning to you. >> good morning. summer is over and there may be an isis homecoming underway because some americans who left the states to trean and fight along -- to train and fight alongside isis are believed to be back in the u.s. the white house says they're being watched with a senior administration official telling reporters that, quote, some who have gone to syria, some who tried to go and some have come back and under active f.b.i. surveillance. the best guess is 100 or so u.s. citizens have tried to become part of the islamic state and the white house says they have a pretty good idea what they have been up to overseas. >> these are individuals who have been trade, have access to military equipment and have indicated a willingness to die for their cause. >> there is new isis internet video where one militant tells followers to carry out lone wolf attacks against american and french citizens because their air forces have been targeting isis targets in iraq. they may be tough to stop. >> the call from isis for people to act on their own, that's very, very difficult to detect because you're not going to get, you're not going to get communications that you can intercept. you're not going to have informants that are going to get you the information. you're just igniting all these people who are self-proclaimed jihadists to do whatever crazy they think they want to do. >> so far this haven't been any announcements about sweeping changes that could be put in place to stop american isis americans or wanna bees to come home and commit terrorist attacks. >> it is pretty clear the f.b.i. is watching those members who went over this and came back here. what about the people who are over this right now and may try to come back? are they going to have trouble getting back in the country? >> so far what we've been hearing is the f.b.i. is going to treat those on a case-by-case basis. we haven't seen travel advisories look for these people. we haven't seen faces on wanted posters. this man might be an isis, woman might be an isis. the f.b.i. now going through on a case by case basis. >> britain did not take any time with that. a week ago they said we might not let them back in. i think they are possibly going to have their passports revoked once they travel there. >> once it becomes clear what we're doing in the air over syria and iraq. we want to be clear what we're doing here to protect us and a measure of heightened awareness and action if you see anything as well. those lone wolf encouragements from isis are to be taken seriously. >> 20 minutes after the top of the hour. >> live news coverage continues for you in a moment. coming up, all eyes on bin laden's in-laws. he's on american soil about to face a judge. why some are saying the timing could not be worse. >> brand-new details about this guy, the man wanted in connection with a missing college student. what we just learned about him and why police let him go in the first place. 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>> excellent question. they're trying to do that. here's why i think this source is accurate. the day after the police executed the search want, the police chief gave a press conference and in that press conference he made it clear -- and i watched it myself. he said he wants people in that community to look on their properties for fresh tire tracks. why did he say that and why did he emphasize that? because he had in the back of his mind, he knew that because of what they found on this car it should match up somewhere in that area. one other thing quickly here. the police are also trying to figure out where was mr. matthew a week ago saturday and sunday? he worked at the hoe cal hospital there. but we don't know whether or not he called in sick or if he just took a couple of days off. but they cannot account for his whereabouts those two days right after hannah went missing. >> i think everyone is frustrated by the fact that they had him. they had him right there for questioning and didn't go any further. >> he wasn't trying to talk to the police either. that's what my source told me. he wasn't trying to talk. he lawyered up very quickly. >> disturbing. rod, we want to thank you. if anyone has any information we want to encourage them to be in contact with the charlottesville police department tip line at 434-295-2851. rod, thank you. coming up, we know about the arab countries that they are helping the united states attack syria. what's more interesting is that the countries are in fact not helping, the ones that are not we're going to tell you about and why. our live team coverage continues with that in just a minute. know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. back with a fox news alert. overnight the u.s. carrying out airstrikes against isis militants enside syria. this marking a may diswror diswror -- major expansion in the war against the terror group. the u.s. damaging 14 isis targets with an air barrage that includes 47 tomahawk missiles. >> five arab nations including the united arab nations and qatar joining in this mission. all american personnel are safe this morning. >> a fox news alert. we know about the five arab countries helping the united states attack isis locations inside syria but what's more interesting may be the countries that are not helping us. joining us is fox news terror analyst walid farris. we put up on the screen the five arab countries that are helping us. what about the countries that are not? in particular, turkey. they have been a longtime ally of ours. why are they sitting on their hands this morning? >> out of the five arab countries helping us, four are seriously helping us and qatar is basically trying to help us but not in coordination with the other arab countries. i'll make a point about that. turkey is the most serious country that could help us. it has borders with syria, borders with iraq. it could cross the border and strike isis or allow us to use our bases and their bases in turkey. it could use ground forces to go in and dismantle. it is not doing that. why? because the government in turkey in the past helped some of the jihadists move inside syria so they will be in trouble with the people they have helped. them are now isis and which are not. >> they're providing some individuals the red carpet for jihadists to cross. also reports saying they have been buying black market oil from isis. >> that, they could handle. the thing more difficult for the turks is if they want to strike now against the organizations they have helped, they don't know to what extent these organizations could damage them in return because some of them are in turkey as well. beyond that, there is the position of the government of turkey that they don't want to be engaged in a war against islamist militias inside seernl. >> you know the history. to get this four or thee or five that are aggressive, even with qatar in a supporting role is pretty historic. there is reason to be happy. the fact is only 20 airstrikes seems relatively low compared to what we're used to maybe over 100 a day. in the big picture could turkey be helping us illicitly, doing things on the down low which is why we're not critical of them? >> these are not little neighborhoods. this is not little mafia at work. if turkey wants to help, the president of turkey goes in front of the parliament and says i'm part of the coalition. this is not hang. i'm sure the turkey government is saying to the united states we could help you. that is happening. but they don't want to appear in front of their own public that they are part of the campaign so far. it may change. >> something else. in addition to the isis locations, and apparently we did take out the raqqa government building there in raqqa, which is the headquarters for isis. apparently it has been leveled. then they told fighters to go out into the rural areas. but in addition to isis locations, apparently we also hit with airstrikes the group of fighters from afghanistan and pakistan. apparently they were nearing the execution phase of an attack either on the united states or e.u. targets. what can you tell us about this group? >> this group is, according to officials, pretty much the most dangerous group because it is targeting the united states homeland. it is targeting western countries. it doesn't act much in the region. it tries to coordinate with all those jihadists returning to the united states or returning to the european union and then they want to get action here. most of them were al qaeda. i would even suspect they have still links to al qaeda. now these strikes are targeting isis, are targeting one group, al nusra and the korasand group as well. >> there is a reason to act, just like that group the yazidis were on these mountains, saved a lot of them. i understand the syrian kurds have been pushed out of the area by isis. 130,000 go flooding into turkey. at the u.n. yesterday there was a plea to act. i wonder what role that played. >> that could have been one of the reasons to prompt the leadership to act quickly. why? because the kurds in syria would have been among those moderates contemplating to train and help. isis heard us. isis did a preemptive strike against them, took about eight to nine villages, pushed tens of thousands out and were continuing to push out against turkey. >> in phase 2 here as we move forward, who do-wwr you see stepping up to take the lead in this fight in the region? >> first of all, in the region as a whole i'm still looking at egypt. egypt is very important, has the largest arab army which is trained by us. it has a significant air force. it has a tank force, ground force. most importantly a large special forces along with the jordanians that would be the spearhead of any ground operation. but i don't see yet arab forces with units on the ground. it may happen. that would be on the regional helpful. >> egypt is saying the right things. they say they want in and are encouraging the u.s. to expand the war beyond isis. >> yes, they are playing the role that we should have played by saying isis -- they allegedly are conducting an air raid with the u.a.e. against the jihadists in libya. they are pretty much going regional at this point in time. >> this is going to be complete speculation but how do you think this phone call went? when the united states yesterday called the envoy to syria and said, okay, we're going to have these strikes against locations in your country. don't go messing with us or you're in big trouble. >> i think that phone call was unilateral. we just informed them because now i'm reading in the arab blog that the ambassador, whoever it was informed the ministry of foreign affairs in syria and the syrian government actually aired it on syrian tv. they said we got a phone call from the united states and that's what they told us and no comments at all about it. they know if they respond, we'll respond heavily. >> are you for bombing the syrian air bases too? >> without them engaging us, i don't think we should do it now. but if they engage us, absolutely. then all the plans are to be executed against those air defenses. but they are smart enough. i think they have coordinated with the iranians. they want us to take out isis. my real concern on the ground, who is going to take the positions of isis if we strike them seriously. >> walid, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> meanwhile, heather nauert is poised to tell us what else is happening around the world. >> he faces the rest of his life behind bars. bin laden's son-in-law in federal court hood right here in new york city to face charges that he helped terrorists kill americans. you can expect security around that courthouse to be at an all-time high. he was convicted in march for his role as an al qaeda spokesman following the terror attacks on 9/11. brand-new details about those three afghan soldiers who went missing on american soil. they are in custody after trying to cross into canada near niagara falls. they say they were looking for asylum. they were in the united states for training exercises at camp edward. >> breaking news out of israel this morning. israeli special forces gunning down two hamas militants accused of killing three israeli teenagers. they were hiding out in a building in the west bank. the attack on those teenagers led to that 50-day war between israel and hamas in the gaza strip. >> new video shows isis linked terror groups threatening to behead a frenchman. a kidnapper saying they will kill the hostage within 24 hours if france does not stop airstrikes in iraq. it is just a matter of time, pennsylvania police say they have the accused cop killer eric frein cornered. officials received, quote, credible tips on the 31-year-old. he is believed to be moving on foot in the dense woods of the pocono mountains. those are your headlines. >> thank you very much. >> a lot of breaking news. we can't tell you for sure what's coming up. we know it is going to be important. we know this rear admiral john kirby live from the pentagon. does the president have authority to bomb syria without congressional approval. judge napolitano says even though congress is gone the president has painted himself into a corner and the judge has turned the corner. he is approaching the stage. here he is. 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(electric hedge trimmer) everybody loves the sweet, fluffy deliciouslness of king's hawaiian bread. a fox news alert. the united states and our arab partners, five of them that we know of right now, expanding the war against isis in syria overnight with airstrikes. we just saw a tomahawk taking off. but does the president have the legal authority for the new strikes without approval from congress? joining us right now is fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. judge, we've been talking about this for awhile. if the united states were to strike inside of syria on these isis targets, many feel he would need congressional approval. >> he himself has said that the authorization of military force, the law enacted by congress right after 9/11 to authorize president bush and his successors to pursue the people who planned and plotted 9/11 is no longer valid with respect to isis because they didn't exist at 9/11. he's pretty much patented himself in a corner on this. however, he continues to show his contempt for the constitution. the constitution says only congress can declare war. in a procedural vote two months ago, 400 of the 435 members of the house, overwhelming numbers of republicans and democrats said only congress can declare war and he needs a congressional resolution if he wants to go after isis. what does he do? he waits until congress is adjourned and home on its election break. he did the same thing when he bombed libya in 2010, waited until congress was on a spring break. he doesn't care about the law. he has yet to ask for a congressional resolution. he knows he can't degrade isis in less than 180 days. what is the significance of that? the statute under which he is bombing in syria without congressional authorization only lets him do it for 180 days. he doesn't care about the law. he doesn't care about the constitution. he wants to win votes for democrats, which is probably why he's doing this now as opposed to last week when congress was in session and he could have asked for the lawful authority to do so. >> wait a minute. you're telling me that we struck at isis targets inside of syria for domestic u.s. politic reasons? >> i'm saying there is a very strong case to be made that that's why the president waited until congress was no longer in session. because if congress gave him authority, it would have restricted the geography and the duration and it would have told him when this ends. now congress has an out. they don't have to do anything. the president gets his war. the democrats can say we're strong on war as the republicans are. he can even pull off some sort of october surprise if he wants. it's a terrible situation because neither the president nor the congress are interested in following the constitution, something they all swore an oath to uphold. >> we do know that the president did apparently call the speaker last night and told him what he had up his sleeve. but going forward, this really shouldn't surprise us. this particular administration has done all sorts of things by executive action and end run, you know, gone around congress any way. >> he's done that a lot, but in this particular case the constitution could not be clearer. he is the first president in american history repeatedly to use the military without even asking for congressional authorization. all the others have asked for it, even after 9/11, even to go after afghanistan where the plotters plotted the tragedy and crisis here. george w. bush asked for and got congressional authorization. >> if the white house is using the authorization from back in 2002 after 9/11 regarding al qaeda, if they're using that for the rational to be striking at isis which didn't even exist back then, clearly the president is on thin legal ice. >> correct. but unless somebody does something about it, he'll continue to do it. if congress acts like a potted plant as it did when the president destroyed libya which arguably led toç the tragedy at benghazi and the chaotic state of affairs there now, congress will be as much to blame as the president. congress can rein him in with votes. >> don't you think a majority of members of congress wanted what happened last night to happen? >> i think they wanted it to happen after they authorized it which they didn't do yet. >> thank you. it is 12 minutes before the top of the hour. this just in, we have just learned that u.s. forces apparently stopped an imminent attack in its tracks, this one by al qaeda. the breaking details are coming up next. and the president has said we are not at war, but do these new developments change all that? what will the administration say now? we're going to talk to the pentagon's top guy, admiral john kirby. he will join us live in about 20 minutes. 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>> well, it's important to attack these guys before they attack us. this would be like attacking al-qaeda in afghanistan before 9-11. so i think it's a step in the right direction. i'm encouraged by it. but i don't think it will be sufficient in the long run because even if we destroy isis, and the others, there will be more islamic terror groups. ever since the 1970s, americans have been attacked under every single president, since jimmy carter, starting with our embassy in tehran. unless we stop radical islam from saudi arabia, qatar and iran, we're going to continue to be attacked. >> there were eight air strikes aimed there. why are they significant? >> they're significant because they stopped the plot on the united states. the group is made up of people from afghanistan, pakistan, jihadis that were members of al-qaeda before. they want to strike the u.s. homeland and it's important we stop them before they could put their plots in place. they could have suicide bombers in trucks or anything like that around the country. >> here is a clue, they came to the aleppo region to work on their nonmetallic bombs which are able to get through our airports without being detected. >> that's right. it's very scary. tsa might not be able to catch them of the that's why it's important to stop them. the bottom line is we've got to convince saudi arabia, qatar and iran to stop exporting radical islam. the world has changed so much since the 1970s. basically we've had this proxy war between the sunnies exporting their types and they spent over $1 billion to export their wahabbiism. if you look at pictures in the '70, women were dresses and skirts. that's all over now because of the ideology. you got to stamp out the ideology and tear it out by the root. >> it also has to come from within, the people of afghanistan, of iraq, of saudi arabia have to say this is ridiculous. why am i not driving cars? why am i wearing these burqas? why can't i do what the internet says i should be able to do. in the big picture right now, is surviving winning if you'reum isis? if we damage them, but they're able to say i'm still here, are they winning? >> brian, i think so. i think if they can live to fight another day, they're going to do it. a lot of their heavy weapons will be destroyed that they stole from the iraqi army that we gave to the iraqi army when they crumbled. a lot of their control centers. >> i guess the concern of some american people, this seems to be a step in the right direction in terms of crushing isis. but the idea we may be able to sustain attention there and say okay, that's good enough, we're out. no more air strikes, isis is done, just like we thought al-qaeda was dead and on the run, that's the fear the american people have. is that valid? >> absolutely, elisabeth. commitment is a big deal. here is another big deal. acquisition program. we shot 47 tom hawks today. but the obama administration has funded 100 for the whole year. that's crazy to me. >> that's the general odierno said over the weekend. you're cutting us back, cutting more next year and cutting us down to under 400,000. you're starting any improvements in the r and d. you can not continue to cut and demand at the same time. republicans and democrats should restore the sequester cuts. >> that's absolutely right. we're looking at a trillion dollars in cuts over a decade that. will hollow out the decade like during the 1970s. we're not going to be able to defend ourselves like we are today. >> it's up to the military to step up and make -- i remember senator sessions said we're going to keep the sequester in place. that's a republican. democrats are happy to cut one thing, the military. and the republicans who have that theme of cutting say i can't just say don't cut the military and not anything else. so together, the military is paying the price. >> you're absolutely right. they're paying the price and it's dangerous for america. it's a sad day for us really and we've got to get our head around the problem and that is we've got to stop this radical islam or it will be whack a mole for generations and we can't afford that either. >> we want to thank you for being with us and your service. >> thank you. >> talking about what we just found out. the group was poised to act and that's why the u.s. jets took them out last night. the very first bombing campaign against isis happening as we speak. how will the president address it when he heads to the u.n. today? ed henry here live on the couch walking through the door so very close. good morning. today is tuesday, september 23. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we are waking up to breaking news this morning. the united states unleashing air strikes in syria for the first time. isis targets hit. this with the help of arab nations. when will the president speak? ed henry here on the curvy couch with breaking details. >> more breaking news. u.s. forces say they have foiled what they're calling an imminent terrorist attack in its tracks on the united states for our european allies and this threat is not from isis. it's from an al-qaeda group. >> wow, what does president obama's war mean for our military? will he be able to keep his promise, no boots on the ground? our military panel breaks down the options like no other. "fox & friends" starts right now. on this tuesday, ed henry, who joins us today from usually washington, you're here in new york because the president is supposed to talk at the united nations general assembly, you've got news about the strikes. >> breaking news, president will speak from the white house before he leaves for new york. he's leaving about 10:20 a.m. eastern time. so we expect he would do that from the white house about 10:00 a.m. eastern time. yes, he's coming here to new york, talk about the u.n. meetings, rally allies. but i think what's significant is the timing of why they started late yesterday. i think there is two parts of this. the president two weeks ago basically gave the authorization to the u.s. military to expand this bombing campaign into syria beyond just iraq when he spoke to the nation. general lloyd austin of central command made the decision yesterday, give it the green light and move forward, in part because i think as you've been talking about, this al-qaeda affiliated group that was plotting, we knew for days they had been plot to go launch terrorist attacks here in the u.s., potentially western europe as well, significant that the u.s. government for the first time is saying, they think there were imminent attacks that this group was plotting. that's significant. remember how much criticism the president has taken for suggesting that isis, for example, was just a jv group that we didn't necessarily is to worry about just a few months ago. this other group and al-qaeda affiliates he warned these are dangerous, but not necessarily with imminent attacks on the u.s. so the u.s. military decided to move because they were concerned about the potential for a terrorist attack. >> acting alone, the arab partners there, the five did not participate in the strikes. >> specifically the asurasan. the five went forward with the air strikes and helped the u.s. in terms of targeting isis, their command and control, as well as training facilities. bahrain, and four others. how long will they be in the fight? that's one of the things the president will be dealing with. >> we just saw some video in the open and it's something we just got from our aircraft carrier showing 47 tomahawk missiles went off last night. let's look at how it sounded. so that happened 47 times, along with we think 20 separate strikes. perhaps it's the most significant thing and a huge victory for secretary kerry and the president is he's got four, maybe as many as five sunni nations doing most of the air strikes. does it mean france or australia or us is out? it means they're in first. >> france has been helping with air strikes in iraq, but said up front we're not helping in syria. so who will be there for us? will the brits step up at some point or other partners? that's part of what the president will push for here at the u.n. i think something significant, our colleagues got an interview with the egyptian president. he says look, i'm supportive of the president widening this fight -- >> widening it? >> but then goes on to say, the administration can't, quote, wash its hands of the middle east. so there is a warning in will as well that ties into why some allies may be hesitant to get involved, saying is the u.s. going to be in this fight for the long haul or is this a little bit of, as some u.s. officials are saying, shock without the awe? >> let's talk about the chronology. we know the president was down at cencon and it was general austin who called the president yesterday and asked for authorization. >> he already technically had the authorization and general austin could move forward on his own. i'm told the president was being briefed by general austin and his folks throughout the night last night. so the green light is coming from general austin. the president gave that authorization in the last couple weeks when he spoke to the nation and last week, secretary hagel already told us that last week he and general dempsey had authorized strike plans inside syria and that those plans were briefed to the president by general austin at cencom last week. he had already authorized strikes, but was not authorizing specific plans. >> was the president and mr. kerry, were they out trying to get as many countries as possible lined up before we went forward? >> absolutely. the president last week said we've got over 40 countries helping us. but among most of those 40, they're helping maybe with humanitarian and other things. the key part is these five arab nations that you've been naming who are saying we're helping with the air strikes. we're helping with actual military action. france last week, the administration was touting that. yes, progress, they got france to help in iraq. france doesn't want to help in syria. that's where the head of the snake is. >> and one thing i thought the goal was and a lot of military people are saying is not so much hitting them with as many bombs as possible and from many different direction, they want isis to not know where the next hit is coming from, where they can move and where they can't move. do you have any credence or back up to this, that general austin asked to hit in syria and president obama said no, not unless i give you permission. therefore, at some point the president said you can hit in syria? >> well, look, they've been going back and forth on this in the white house about when did the president technically authorize it. bottom line is two weeks ago he told the nation on the record, on camera, we are moving forward with air strikes in syria. it's just when do we move forward specifically. he had already given general austin the broad authority to say i'm expanding this air campaign. by the way, we've been reporting about syria, there were more u.s. air strikes in iraq yesterday. so that continues. specifically, though, general austin was waiting for when do we move forward? that happened yesterday. >> with a will half moving forward into the conversations of turkey and the president -- >> that's another important ally that's supposed to be and should be helping, giving its influence in the region, but they've been dragging their feet for various reasons. one is what i was mentioning with egypt, are some of the folks in the region saying wait a second, we want to see how the early stages of this go and will the u.s. be in it for the long haul? the president two weeks ago said this won't be a short situation. this will take months and months and we'll have to degrade and destroy isis. it's not going to be shock and awe in the first couple hours. >> we asked walid phares. he gave his assessment of the region. take a listen. >> turkey is really the most serious country that could help us. it has borders with syria, borders with iraq. it could cross the border and strike isis or allow us to use our bases and their bases in turkey and use ground forces to go in and dismantle, but they're not doing that. why? because the government in turkey in the past have helped some of the jihaddist move inside syria. so they'll be in trouble with the people who they have helped. they don't know which of them are now isis and which are not. >> so that's egypt group could play a major role and we think turkey will do something. we don't know what deal they cut to get their hostages out. >> saying we're not going to get into it. the other thing is what does president assad in syria going to do? the u.s. resisted to get involved in the syrian civil war. now what we're trying to deal with isis, we're in and how far do we go? number two, the other important thing that happened overnight is that israel, another key ally, shot down a syrian fighter jet that went into the golan heights, violated israeli air space. what else is going on in this region? we've got our eyes specifically in syria. there is a whole heck of a lot going on in the region. >> absolutely. we've been speaking internationally. let's talk about american politics. a lot of members of congress have made it very clear to the president of the united states, if you're going to do something, you got to come to congress and we've got to authorize it. as it turns out, he said go ahead and get them while congress is on vacation. >> i think judge napolitano was right. it's another thing -- i failed to mention in terms of timing, i think the potentially imminent threat from these terrorists, yes, that was an important part of timing. but also yes, judge napolitano is right, congress is now gone. if obama got started last week, there would be more pressure last week. the president gets a lot of heat for this, but there is a lot of lawmakers who say, we should have a vote. and then oh, i got a plane ticket, i'm going home. they want to go home and campaign. >> what about the timing of the united nations general assembly, the reason you're here, starts today for all intents and purposes. >> i suspect that's why he's speaking from the white house, climate change. a big priority of the administration, when you've got bombs falling over syria. >> leon panetta, gates, dempsey all come out and question the president's strategy. did it have any effect on what's happening? >> that "60 minutes" piece was pretty powerful. i don't think that was the final piece on the timing. when you had the president's former pentagon chief saying we should have left troops behind in iraq, that was a mistake. something the white house doesn't want to admit. again, i'm not saying it had anything to do with when the bombing started, but that puts more political pressure on this administration when it's not just a republican critic, it's now his former defense secretary saying we made mistakes. every admission gets advice from different advisors. the commander in chief has to make the final call. he's made calls, whether it's red lines, bringing troops home from iraq that he's going to argue were the right decision at the time. but maybe if they had a chance to do a do over, they'd think again. >> it will be interesting to see what the advisors have to say about this latest move. >> good to see you. coming up on this very busy tuesday, the president has said we're not at war. but what will the president say this morning when he addresses the nation? we just heard from ed. he's going to do that probably around 10:00 o'clock this morning. we're going to talk to the pentagon's top spokesperson, admiral john kirby next, and he'll tell us what he knows. and brand-new details about this guy, the man wanted in connection with a missing college student. what we just learned about him and why police let him go in the first place. fox news alert. moments ago we learned president obama will address the nation. this just hours after launching military strikes in syria. so is america at war? rear admiral john kirby joins us live. admiral, big day in news. i guess let's just go with the headline. is it official now, we're at war with isis? >> we've been saying that for quite some time. i said that about a week or so ago. we're definitely at war with isil the same we're at war with al-qaeda. >> it's the same thing. last night also speaking of al-qaeda, i understand one of the things that we did by ourselves, not with the sunni allied states in the region, was to hit korsan because of an imminent threat. >> without too much detail, this is a very dangerous group, al-qaeda offshoot. we had good information that they were very actively plotting and very close to the end of that plotting and planning an attack on targets either in europe or the u.s. homeland. we had enough information to go after them and so we did. you're right. these were u.s. only strikes against the group in and around near aleppo and we're still assessing the effectiveness of those strikes, but we think we hit what we were aiming at. >> well done by our military and our hats are off to them and thankful for keeping us safe. let me ask you this, something that someone says was not well done was now we're actually paying the price of leon panetta for not arming moderate syrian rebels sooner. take a listen to this while we have you we'd love your reaction. >> in retrospect now, was not arming the rebels at that time a mistake? >> i think that would have helped and i think in part we paid a price for not doing that and inn what we see happening with isis. >> are we playing catch up now? >> i don't know if i want to get into armchair quarterbacking this thing after the fact. i can tell you is our focus right now is on training and equipping a moderate syrian opposition. we asked congress for and received approval from them for about $500 million to train and equip moderate opposition going forward. it's going to take us some months to get that training and equip mission going and even more months after that, probably up to a year, before we can get opposition forces in the field. but we're very much dedicated to that. that's a priority for secretary hagel and we're looking forward to moving forward with that. as you know, saudi arabia came forward and offered a training facility that we can use. so that was a big piece of the puzzle and we're moving forward. >> what happens in the meantime? if that takes up to 18 months to properly train, who is handling all the business there in the months between? >> you still have a moderate opposition that is going after threats inside syria. they're going after the assad regime and isil. that's going to continue as well. there are other ways in which the united states is supporting the moderate opposition in addition to this which will take a little time to get started. you saw what happened last night. we put a lot of pressure on isil and now putting pressure in syria. i think you can expect to see that pressure continue as well. >> since we've got you here, there have been a number of news stories out because peopst gath. can you tell us how many air strikes were pulled off and whether or not we hit what we were intending to hit? >> yeah. great question. we conducted against isil targets with our arab partners 14 -- we hit 14 different target areas inside syria last night. also eight strikes against this group we talked about was u.s. only. so 22 total strikes last night. i can tell you that we used the dozens and doddss -- dozens of tactical from nations and tomahawk strikes. we had a couple of drone strikes, dropping almost more than i could say more than 150 precision guided munitions. 99% of all the munitions dropped last night were precision guided munitions. we took very, very care to make sure we were hitting what we were aiming at and not causing collateral damage. we don't have any indications that we did. we do and we're starting to collect sort of get an assessment. we believe we hit largely everything we were aiming at. >> here are the countries we understand took part. qatar, saudi arabia, bahrain, jordan and the uae. one country missing that probably has the biggest army and could be the most valuable is turkey. where were they? where are they in the process of joining us or leaving us alone? >> well, turkey was not a participant last night, as you know. i won't speak for another government and what they're willing to do or not do. this is a key nato ally. they're partner in the region. they have borders with both countries, iraq and syria. they have a refugee issue that they're dealing with. so they are -- just by their geography, they'll be a partner here and a coalition member. they've indicated they want to participate. we're leaving it up to each nation to sort of characterize that on their own. >> can isis be defeated without turkey? >> we recognize isil cannot be defeated if it's not defeated regionally by nations in the region, everybody chip not guilty and participating. again, i want to give great credit to general austin in central command for pulling together this terrific coalitioó yesterday. having five arab nations join us in this effort is not insignificant. i think something to be commended. >> rear admiral john kirby joining us from the pentagon where i've got a feeling they're going to be drinking a lot of coffee 'cause you did an all nighter last night. thank you very much. >> it was a busy night, thank you very much for having me. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. breaking news out of israel, israelis, special forces shot down a syrian jet for the first time since 1982. what was that jet doing over israel? we are live in jerusalem with syria's sorry excuse. and major update to those three afghan soldiers who disappeared from a military base right here in the united states. they were found at the canadian border. what in the world were they doing there? we're going to tell you. keep it right here. more breaking news overnight. israeli defense forces shot down a syrian jet that entered israeli air space. is it related to the u.s. air strikes in isis, people are wondering? >> joining us live from jerusalem with the breaking details on this, john huddy. good morning to you. so can you connect the dots for us here? are these related at all? >> reporter: no. it doesn't look like that. believed that this jet that was shot down is connected to or retaliation by syria in any way to the u.s. air strikes. remember, syria borders israel and there has been an intense amount of fighting there between syria's government and antigovernment rebel forces. so there has been stray fire coming into israel, a drone from syria was shot down over israel a couple weeks ago. then you had this fighter that strays into israeli air space, most likely targeting those rebel factions along the border and israel shoots it down with a patriot missile. we have amateur video showing the smoke rising. we believe that the plan, according to israeli newspapers now, went down in syria. we're also hearing the pilots were able to eject in time. >> it does sound like they were turning around to go back. they strayed into israeli air space. but john, the israelis are very adamant. if anybody comes into our air space with anything, we're going to shoot them down and that's exactly what they did. >> reporter: right. and as i said, it's happened before. a fighter jet getting knocked out, that hasn't happened since 1982. so this is very -- that's interesting. but again, it's not -- it's not believed to be connected in any way. if anything, if you want to say anything about it, it's just really bad timing by syria's military. >> in the big picture, when you think of the jerusalem post and put it on the news, how worried are the israelis that we're going to do a deal with the devil, meaning iran, to take out isis? >> reporter: well, i don't think that's going to be the case at all. israel's prime minister, netanyahu, says israel fully supports the u.s. in the fight against isis. but look, you're right. iran, russia, china have all supported syria. iran really is considered to be among other enemies, really israel's greatest threat. >> all right. john huddy live in jerusalem with the very latest. last night u.s. air strikes on isis targets inside syria. simultaneously. now we know unrelated probably, the israelis shot down a syrian jet. >> we thank john for joining us this morning here. our live team coverage continues in just a moment. coming up, all eyes are on bin laden's son-in-law at this hour. why he's on american soil and what is expected to happen to him. >> and you just heard from the pentagon's top guy saying we're at war with isis. the same way we're at war with al-qaeda. so what does that mean? we've assembled a panel of great military minds to react to that and to last night's bombing escapade. this is "fox & friends". dñ back now with a fox news alert on this tuesday morning. overnight the united states carrying out air strikes against isis militants inside syria. this marks a major expansion in the war against the brutal terror group isis or isil. the united states and our allies destroying or damaging 14 isis targets with a blistering aerial barrage of more than 140 tomahawk missiles. rear admiral john kirby saying they had credible evidence and intelligence that isis was actively plotting attacks against the united states and europe. five arab nations, including the united arab emirates, jordan, bahrain, and qatar all helping out with the mission. all american personnel, aircraft and people, are safe this morning. that's an update. brian? >> 29 minutes before the top of the hour. joining us now to expand on what steve just talked about are lieutenant general richard newton, former assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs, bing west, and anthony schaefer, all have their own sources about this very strike. first off, general, what stands out to you about what happened? for us we're used to hearing many more strikes overnight. we hear just 14 in syria. what do you think? >> i think first off it's significant. it's a relentless strike against isis forces last night. it was also what stands out for me is the fact that we had this coalition carved together with arab sunni leaders. i think that's significant. it's historic. i think we'll see more of this in the coming days. >> it's not an easy thing to do to get these sunni nations to attack a sunni terrorist group, is it? >> no, but the question still out there, because this is a regional war, is whether the arab states extracted from us, from president obama the promise to cut the air bridge that goes from iran across iraq into syria to keep props up assad and props up the hezbollah that are such a danger in lebanon. so i haven't heard anyone address that. but that's critical for these arab states. >> so just to expand on that, you're saying that these sunni nations, we respond to the fact that we're looking to push aside iran, where earlier leading up to the strikes there were words making overtures to get iran involved. if that happened, we don't get five sunni nations joining us? >> well, that's part of it. the other part is whether president obama, who wants a deal with iran about nuclear weapons, whether he's willing to be hard on them and say, huh-uh, we're not going to allow you to continue to prop up assad and cause mischief. we're going to cut that air bridge. >> colonel what, do you think is significant about who did the bombing yesterday? i understand you're curious about who didn't do the bombing. >> who didn't do the bombing was our closest ally, the u.k. i'm worried why they didn't show up. we've got real sunni-shia issues that need to be addressed. i think we have to look at this as a regional problem, but we have to look at what's next. okay. we've hit them in the nose. we're going to continue to hit them in the nose. how do we do two critical things: prosecuting this ground war, the so-called militia we're trainhlg won't be ready for ten months to a year. we've got to doing now to start pushing them back and take care of the refugees. secondly, as bing said, you've got the sunni shia thing, hezbollah issue, this quiet off to the side thing that will raise its ugly head if we don't manage it properly. we have to get our head around the fact we're at war and do this smartly. i think we need to look at a long-term treaty organization, much like nato, to bring these folks together so we don't have to go back every ten years and do this over and over again. >> general, there is possibly a reason is you want day one to have a sunni presence and they want to say, there goes the western powers looking to inflict their will on the muslims. >> that's correct. i think as tony and bing have articulated -- >> by the way, tony blair is up. he's in the green room and will be up next. go ahead. >> that's important to get his take as well. but it's important that the american people understand that we're in this for the long haul. we've kicked off a significant air campaign in this case, but again, over the next few weeks and months that we need to pursue isis so they do not have sanctuary in iraq and syria. the other aspect of this is the fact that we've joined in with coalition partners, particularly from the arab world i think is significant. and i think that we ought to look at the long ball of this versus a short-term gain. >> absolutely. here is the thing, without i understand you're the expert, without special forces on the ground guiding in the missile strikes and radiating and highlighting targets, we're using hell fire missile. >> right now we're using precision guided munitions as john kirby said at the top of the discussion. the fact that 99% of these weapons have been precision guided. these are targets that are out in the open, that are certainly targets that the centcom planners have been focused on for the last few weeks and months. once again, the campaign expands itself, we ought not to limit ourselves in terms of what capability the united states has, be it irrelevant power, ground and other tools. >> bing, the other thing you have is a refugee problem. 130,000 forced from syria into turkey where maybe turkey isn't so welcoming. did we have a role in making sure those people have something to eat? >> positively, brian. we do have a larger issue with turkey that i hope we straighten out over timgoing to help the refugees. i think it is, however, also terrific that you're having tony blair on your show because he has been the only western voice to try to unify our people in a war and now we have a president ironically, who for the next two years is going to be a war-time president. that helps the democrats, but is he going to unite all of us behind a war? >> and also how aggressive is he going to be? is the military going to get the cart blanch to do what it takes or is the president going to put a governor on them? >> so far so good. joan austin is very competent. he's great general of the i worked for him in afghanistan. he's got his act together. the question now becomes can he effectively use air to stop isis quickly to do what bing just talked about, support getting the refugees protected, helping get food into them, and then we need to do something on the ground now. you point out the special operations guys, they're already there, doing good stuff. but we need to do more. i think we got to arm some of these refugee, send them back in. they don't want to be refugees. they want to go home. this is an option we haven't looked at seriously, arming them to go home and stir up trouble and start pushing back now. not later. >> and meaning now, there has got to be more today, tomorrow and the next day. and let isis know their time is over. general, colonel, bing west, thanks so much. appreciate the discussion and hopefully we'll have more to talk about in the upcoming days. meanwhile, heather nauert has more news, including a bin laden relative going to jail? >> he faces life behind bars. bin laden's son-in-law is due in federal court right here in federal court to face charges that he helped terrorists kill americans. you can expect security around the courthouse to be at an all-time high later today. he was convicted in march for his role as an al-qaeda spokesman following the terrorist attacks on 9-11. brand-new details about the three afghan soldiers who went missing on american soil. they are now in custody after trying to cross into canada near niagara falls. they say they were looking for asylum. they were in the united states for training exercises at camp edward in massachusetts. then breaking news overseas. out of israel this morning, israeli special forces gunning down two hamas militants, accused of abducting and killing three israeli teen-agers. they were hiding out in two story building in the west bank. the attack on the teen-agers led to that 50-day war between israel and hamas in the gaza strip. and two decades after a study on white house fence jumpers that vulnerability remains today. the mock attack back in the '90s overwhelmed secret service agents with several people climbing over the fence at the same time and then of course just friday, a man jumps the fence and made it into the white house before agents took him into custody. and brand-new evidence this morning in the search for uva student hannah graham. sources confirm that police are now looking at fresh dirt on the tires of jesse matthew's car. they just removed several bags of evidence and a search of his apartment. matthew, a person of interest in her disappearance, is believed to be the last person who was seen with her before she vanished. those are your headlines. i'll see new a bit. >> thank you very much. our coverage on syria continues in just a moment. up next, the war on isis has come to our doorstep. the late breaking details on the isis fighters who are on american soil right now. >> we know about the arab countries helping the united states attack syria, but what about our european allies? 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>> joining us now is former prime minister of the u.k., tony blair. good morning. we are thrilled you're here with us this morning. >> thank you. >> the timing, fortunately or unfortunately, is perfect given all the events of last night. what was your reaction and were you surprised that the european nations are not part of those joining the united states in these air strikes? >> i hope they will come alongside the u.s. and it's very important we support america at this time. it's the right thing to take the action against isis. and you're going to have to hit them in syria 'cause that's where they built themselves and headquartered themselves. they came from syria into iraq, so you've got to take action against them there. look, i think there is a strong feeling in europe, too. the single biggest problem we have in security terms in the u.k. now are returning british fighters from syria, jihaddist fighters. >> for isis? >> yes. >> one of the rationales for going last night, overnight, was, according to the united states government, apparently we also, in addition to hitting isis, we hit the khorasan group, which was apparently ready to strike. they were in the execution phase, the final stages. they were either going to strike the united states somewhere or somewhere with our european allies. >> look in the last few weeks >> look in the last few weeks we've and if you look across the whole of the middle east, i mean, i would watch libya very, very carefully. you've got a bad situation in yemen. and in a inn that northern part of africa, right across that part of africa, you've got huge problems, bow boko haram. we're in for a long fight for a long period of time against radical islamism. >> turkey? >> do the british not understand that? where are your people on this, because i thought the polls after the beheading of one of your citizens was going to say okay, the u.s. will take the lead. we certainly have a formidable force to help out. >> a couple years ago the prime minister wants to make sure he has a vote this time. i think and believe britain will be there with the u.s. look, this is a big problem for us. so we've got to help shoulder the responsibility. >> and turkey's role in this as you see it? >> i think you guys are working on turkey in respect to this. they are very important. they've got a huge refugee problem now in turkey as a result of -- over 100,000 people in a few days coming over the border into turkey. we need turkey alongside us. >> sure. we were just talking about how it's going to be a long fight against extremism. did the united states blow it by pulling out pretty much completely from iraq? >> i think -- i went through all these decisions post-9-11, i know how tough they are. i think you've got to look -- this is going to last beyond this president, this prime minister. it's going to probably last beyond the next president and the next prime minister. and by the way, yesterday, very serious events in the northwest province of china where the muslim population is. you've got this in the far east, terrorists in thai thailand recently. i think you're in a long hard struggle over a long period of time and you've got to root out -- the real problem is the education systems in these countries that are educating young people. my foundation works to counter the extremism being taught in these types of places. this is the fundamental question and millions of kids are being taught this. >> mr. prime minister, had we left some sort of a residual force in iraq, maybe it wouldn't have turned out like this. >> we're going to carry on this debate. >> i know. >> as i say, i know -- >> you're not going to say it was a mistake? >> i'm not gog criticize those people in the position of leadership because i know i got a lot of criticism myself for the decisions i took. now what is important is you are building an alliance that's going to include the arab nations. they know it's their fight as well as ours and that's a big change. >> what are your words for our president moving into the next two years looking at war time president? we just heard rear admiral kirby saying we are definitely at war. moving forward in a leadership role in terms of sustaining force against isis and defeating them what, is your wisdom that you can share? >> i think there are two things you need to do. you need to build an alliance that deals with not just isis, but all these other groups as well, because by the way, if you get isis displaced in syria, they may move into libya and they could cause huge problems there as well. boko haram in nigeria, they are getting financed and funded as a result of what's coming down from libya. so that's the first thing. look at it as one large problem. build an alliance to try and defeat it. secondly, focus on these education systems. if you've got millions of young kids being taught nothing but the koran from early in the morning until late in the afternoon every day, day in, day out, you are going to incubate some of this terrorism. >> it starts, i understand, you tell me if this is your expertise -- in saudi arabia, who is now helping us with air strikes against some of the people who gave them -- that give the foundation for their extreme beliefs. >> right. so over the past when there was a coincidence of this type of teaching with a lot of money from the oil, over the past a lot of this has been exported from the middle east. these countries in the far east didn't get this on their own account. they got it from the middle east. however, today the saudi leadership is actually trying to help fight this and we've got to work with them, work with other countries. look at pakistan. you got a situation where there are a million displaced in the last few weeks as the army battle these militants in the hill country of pakistan. so we need to be working with these countries now. >> it just blows me away that they look at us as the enemy when you have the enemy is beheading people and raping women and destroying lives. >> one of the things we've got to understand is we're not creating this. there has been a feeling of us, maybe we provoked these people to be like this. we're not. by the way, their enemy is not just us. it's anyone within islam who disagrees with them. so this is about modernity and moderation versus extremism and a kind of reactionary that wants to return the world to the dark ages. >> can you equal it a regional issue anymore, because of their outrage, doesn't seem so regional if this is so ideological. >> it's global. absolutely global. >> that's why you've got a center that studies extremism around the world. tony blair, perfect guest to have today. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> sometimes i hope -- some day i hope you have nothing to study. >> that's what we're working for. >> ten minutes before the top of the hour. our coverage continues in just a minute. up next, the war on isis is at our doorstep. late breaking details on the isis killers who are on american soil right now can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. new fiber one streusel. ♪ [music] jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. a fox news alert now. the enemy is among us as the united states launches attacks on isis -- against isis in syria, the white house confirms american fighters for the terror group are already here on u.s. soil. what can we expect from those jihad joes? joining us is former senior policy advisor to the house committee. thank you for joining us this morning. expected 100 americans fighting for isis here. break this down for us. how serious is this? what is being done to locate and track these individuals? >> well, first of all, i think it's important that we have this discussion. this is not a fear mongering discussion. this is an adult discussion we need to have 'cause this threat here to the homeland is real and the governments, the administration revealing about 100 people have tried to or have come back from fighting with isis. that's what they know. there is a big chunk of this that theydon't know. unfortunately, the administration is really late to the game here. so they're trying to play catch up to a group that is fundamentally intelligent. they have real intentions to attack the homeland. we've seen in both europe and in australia they're planning there. so they're using americans, what i would consider traitors, to infiltrate the united states and carry out attacks here and this is a real threat to the homeland. >> what can you specifically tell us? there is reports as many as 40 have returned to the united states after fighting for isis overseas. >> elisabeth, my sources are telling me that there are tens of these fighters in boston alone. so we really have to understand that these isis fighters have come back to the united states. they are all over the country and we really have to be diligent here. the f.b.i., who they know, the f.b.i. is very skilled at making sure that the people that they know about are monitored and aren't going to carry out an attack. it's the ones that we don't know that really cause me angst. >> those lone wolf threats that really don't have the ability to track. >> eight of the bombs, stopping a plot in its tracks. this a veteran group known as khorasan. can you explain to us exactly what they mean, what their significance is and what it means that this attack was stopped? >> so i think khorasan group, first of all, i'm very disappointed that the administration has chosen to reveal some really sensitive intelligence here. they've really revealed their hand. there was no reason whatsoever to reveal this group, nor to even say we attacked them last night. that would really is going to degrade our intelligence capability and degrade our ability to really thwart plots against the homeland that they're going to carry out. >> joshua, thank you for that insight this morning. charles krauthammer, laura ingraham next eful has wholesome grains,real beef,even accents of spinach,carrots and peas. 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>> i think we're in for a long, hard fight over a long period of time against this radical islamism and we need a strategy that puts everything together. >> he's right about that. more from the former prime minister, tony blair, who was just on the curvy couch about five minutes ago. here is what the top guy at the pentagon just said. >> we are definitely at war with isil and the same way we're at war with al-qaeda. >> wow. game on. charles krauthammer is here. he'll tell us what the president should say later this morning because mornings are better with friends and we start right now. we're getting right to that fox news alert for you. overnight, the u.s. and arab allies launching a barrage of strikes on isis militants in syria. rear admiral john kirby saying this: we are at war. doug mcleway is live at the white house where the president is expected to speak this morning in just about an hour. good morning to you, doug. what can you tell us? >> reporter: this is a significant attack in its size and its scope. the president answering many of his critics with a multi-pronged attack which for the first time included attacks inside the borders of syria. the u.s. military employed an array of weapons, including 47 tomahawk attack missiles launched from the red sea and also from the uss philippine sea, a cruiser in the north arabian gulf, as well as from remotely piloted aircraft, bombers and fighter planes. there were a total of 14 strikes in all using roughly 100 precision-guided weapons. play ago supporting role were several members of the international coalition, including sunni arab states, bahrain, jordan, saudi arabia, the united arab emirates and qatar. here is general jack keane talking about the significance of that. >> it's very significant that we have four arab muslim countries, all sunni-based countries attacking a sunni-based terrorist organization. that did not come easy. many of these were urging the united states to do something about assad before. but now this is isis. so it is significant, in my judgment. >> reporter: centcom is reporting that several targets were destroyed or damaged around the isis stronghold, including isis fighters. also training compounds, headquarters, command and control facilities, storage facilities, finance center supply trucks and many armed vehicles. separately, centcom is reporting the united states also undertook eight attacks against this newly emerging terrorist threat called the khorasan group which many people believe is now emerging to be a greater threat to the u.s. homeland than either al-qaeda or isis. president obama made calls to congressional leaders last night in advance of these attacks. reaction just beginning to come in. we've heard from buck mckeon who said that this is one step in what will be a long fight against isil. senator marco rubio saying that i support the president's actions. we expect to hear a lot of that kind of thing in the hours to come. back to you in new york. >> allall right. doug mckelway. also apparently the bomb damage assessment team is realizing that while they did blow up a lot of buildings over there as they try to figure out who exactly they killed, now that the top tier of the isis hierarchy has seen what we're going to do, they've gone to ground and they will be tougher to find. >> right. the one thing they did do is paint a major building black so we can look for that one. let's see if they continue with that strategy. laura ingraham is here with the breaking news. what's your reaction to the beginning of this syrian/iraqi campaign? >> well, yesterday early in the morning, the la times reported that general dempsey told reporters traveling in europe that the president was waiting on the campaign until it became clearer what our arab allies were actually doing for the coalition. so it was interesting that indeed the air strikes began within about 15 hours of those comments. so the president, did he get more clarity from the arab allies? he obviously knows what they're doing. unfortunately for the american people, we're not sure what they're doing. i'd like to know what the saudi arabia, which has a history of funding terrorism. i'd like to know what they're doing and qatar is doing. they have disturbing ties to terrorist organizations. so i think the american people at some point are going to say, okay. we were in favor going in with air strikes. we want our soldiers to win wherever they are. but is this just all going to be on the backs of the american taxpayers? as you said, what we actually destroying on the ground? do we know -- is it children, women, or are we getting all the bad guys and that's all the bad guys? these are questions that we're going to have to answer. but the excitement of getting these guys and i want all of them dead, we have to understand that in the beginning of the iraq war, everybody was like, let's go in, let's get them, let's do it! then as time goes on, we're kind of there with canada and britain and a few other countries. the taxpayer still paying that off. >> well, it's interesting because they were able to assemble at least five arab nations to take part in the activities. >> what does that mean? >> i don't know. the country of qatar apparently would not be involved in the direct air strikes, but they did offer up a plane that flew around somewhere. we don't know exactly where. >> oh, okay. >> but what's curious, though, is our long-time ally -- last week the president mentioned yeah, france is part of the team. well, where was the united kingdom last night? they were not part of the coalition. we just had tony blair here and he said heç hopes that the european allies do step up pretty quickly. one of his worries, and i'm going to play the sound bite for you right now -- is how he's worried that isis or isil is headed to the u.k. >> i hope they will come alongside the u.s., it's very important we support america at this time. it's absolutely the right thing to take the action against isis and you're going to have to hit them in syria 'cause that's where they've built themselves and headquartered themselves and they came from syria into iraq. so you've got to take action against them there and look, i think there is a very strong feeling in europe, too. the single biggest problem we have in security terms in the u.k. now are returning british fighters from syria, jihaddist fighters. >> okay. so it's a big problem. so where was the u.k. with us yesterday? >> well, i think cameron understands that going back into iraq or syria, it's not popular in britain. tony blair, it's interesting to see him there today. remember when he left office, there was enormous amount of discontent throughout the u.k. about this long slog in iraq. i don't want to rain on everybody's parade, but what's happening in britain is that the people are saying, look, we wish them well, but we're kind of all tapped out. we just dealt with a cessesionist movement, focus on homeland, focus on jobs. they're going up like this versus the conservative party and the live downs and labor party. so i'd say where is u.k.? where is germany? germany's economy is humming. >> at least the germans are arming the kurds. they are doing things economically. we took their military away after world war ii. but. >> they have a lot of money. >> the u.k. has five times the amount of isis guys serving over there, chopping off the heads of our guys and their guys. how could they not see this? >> i think they do see it, brian. i think, though, as we see here with the polls about a long-term war, a long-term commitment, public here, the reuters poll came out a couple weeks ago, public doesn't want any long-term commitment. i think in britain, they're really concerned about the returning jihadis, concerned about what's happening to britain's culture. they're very worried about it. they want the home front secured. i think a long-term commitment in iraq or syria -- i don't see the support for it in britain. i guess you can still go in and do it. but that means what at home? that means political upheaval at home. that means the whole thing is up in the air. so i understand the frustration, but you also have to understand the frustration of the working class people in britain ho are kind of like, my life is getting worse every year. not better. >> that's a great point. we keep hearing broad coalition, we need a sustainable coalition moving forward. speak of sustainable, the president is supposed to speak today on climate change. will he give that the boot and speak more on this? also what do you expect that he will say at the white house? >> i think it will be more of the general comments about isis being a threat to the global community and global norms and international values. i think we're going to hear a very broad statement about that and boast about the coalition. i hope all those liberals who were ridiculing george w. bush who put together 40 countries going into iraq, i hope they're all going to have the same attitude about the ill-defined contributions from the arab states. i mean, he's going in with a coalition, what kind of coalition is it? i believe in his heart of hearts, president obama does see climate change as a bigger threat than isis. >> that's what john kerry said. >> yeah. exist essential threat, right? >> ed henry came by and said that the president still going to talk about climate change at the united nations today. however, before he leaves the white house, he's going to be talking about what we did overnight. meanwhile, we had rear admiral kirby with us earlier and he made it very clear, even though this administration has gotten hung up on semantics, it's very clear we are finally at war. here is the admiral. >> is it official now? we're at war with isis? >> we've actually been saying that for quite some time. in fact, i said that about a week or so ago. we're definitely at war with isil and the same way we're at war with al-qaeda. >> that's good news. now that they're saying it that way. >> don't you guys get the sense that the defense department, the entire pentagon is like, we're just tired of dealing with this. we have a job to do. we're going to do our jobs. we have to deal with these messengers over at the white house who are worried about the political perception here at home. i was half expecting the administration to say, well, we're going -- like with executive amnesty, we're going to put this off, whether it's a war or not, until after the election. we'll determine it until after the election in the lame duck session. until then, the jury is out on whether this is a war. all i'll say about the war thing is it will feel like a war, regardless of whether they call it. after the bills come due. right now we're not talking republicans, democrats, really how much money this is all costing. but we the people will feel that. that's going to hurt. >> the question is, if a city starts blowing up here, if we ignore over there and things start blowing up here, how much will it cost after that? that's the true conversation. >> you're making the art for shutting the border down and implementing the 9-11 commission's recommendations which for some reason, we haven't done as bill o'reilly pointed out. so we haven't done any of that. so we're going to fight a war over there. okay. but are we going to do anything to the home front? a guy can sprint across the white house lawn and get into the front door and yet we're like, it's really dangerous here. no kidding. >> don't worry, we're going to lock the door from now on. >> to put a period on this, we're so thankful to why you here. when we allow our military men and women to do what they do best, they are ultimately successful. thtional job starting this last night. we expect that to continue. i think they just want to do what they do well without political usurpion. >> have a great day. >> thank you. the white house is going to lock their door, but not the southern border. >> yes. >> why not? >> can they do both? , our coverage continues. meanwhile, the big question, will isis really tool crate on american soil? 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>> i think that you have to recognize that the f.b.i., the c.i.a., these other organizations are working together to try to blunt this. we have to work with our foreign partners to block them from coming into the united states. everyone in the united states has to recognize, we're at war right now. if you see something, say something. frequently if there is an entwhistle incident or attack in the united states, it's the average police officer on the ground that's the first responder or the first person that sees something. everyone has to recognize, we're at war. you see something, say something. we're all collectively responsible for our own security in the united states. >> 14 strikes inside syria. nine strikes on khorasan in particular. that was just us. first on khorasan, we understand they're the elite al-qaeda group. they're the veterans of al-qaeda and they specialize in bomb making. nonmetallic bombs that go through airports, perhaps, if they have the technology, they say they do. and we acted because of an imminent threat. your reaction? >> i'm less concerned with them -- of course, we're going to defend our airports and use everything possible to stop them from carrying devices in,÷&z but they can enter the united states without anything and if they've been trained properly, they can construct things in the united states. we've got to stop them from getting in. we go back to the same basic premise. close that southern border. i'm comfortable with what our people do at tsa and airport security. we got to close that southern border and we have to recognize that this is a fight that we are in as a nation. this is not just the u.s. military. this is a terrorist -- these are terrorist organizations that have highly trained people, they're very, very committed to what they're doing. the u.s. military, homeland security, the f.b.i., local police, everybody has to recognize we're at war right now. when you see this on television and looks like some video game in the distance, it's not at a distance. it's real. we're all in this together. >> right. you're a guy that's been on the ground and you also have a son in the fight. gary, i got to ask you about the arab nations involved. i know that's what you were calling for and you have bahrain in there. you have uae in there. you have qatar having support flights, whatever that means. and saudi arabia. who is not there? >> first off, the president and the administration should be complimented for getting the sunni countries in there. >> absolutely. >> we don't have the turks or kwaitis in yet. the kuwait has large bases. then you have across the border, which would be very useful. finally egyptians. i know there is not 40 countries in this, but we have the right countries in and around this, sunni countries. what this does is blunts people, like the religious imam for all of the muslim brotherhood. he is a huge voice and he stated this is a u.s. war on islam. but it's not a war on islam. there are sunni muslims fighting these guys. so this is a good start here in the coalition. we're just going to have to see what kind of ground game is put together. >> all right. keep your phone handy. thanks so much. >> pleasure. ten minutes before the bottom of the hour. in less than two hours, president obama set to address the nation on air strikes in isis took place last night in syria. so what do you want him to say? 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>> well, we are still looking for jesse matthew. there are two misdemeanor reckless driving warrants for him. he has not been seen, that we know of, since sunday. we have not heard from him nor have any communication about his whereabouts. we are searching for him. >> okay. there was some crazy stuff that happened over the weekend. it's great that we've got you as a live guest that i can ask you about this. he came into the police station and said, you were looking for me, right? then he asked for an attorney. and you gave him a list of attorneys. then there was some conversation. what, did he hire one of the attorneys? >> he gave us a list of attorneys he would like us to contact. we contacted the first one on the list. that person agreed to come in. that attorney and mr. matthew spoke for an extended period of time. then they indicated they were leaving and they were gone. >> okay. so he decided he was not going to cooperate with the police. he would not allow you to interview him right then. he took off with his mom. >> when he came in -- he came in with his mother and his uncle. they left and went to his grandmother's house. >> okay. we pick up the story there. so he is at the grandmother's housement there are several law enforcement vehicles outside of the house clearly in view. then he decides to do what? >> there were two vehicles outside. there were two f.b.i. agents and two state police in unmarked cars. they were surveilling him, not hiding. he came out. he obviously saw them. he and his mother got into a car, him driving. he took off. was driving so wrecklessly that the agents determined it was too dangerous for everyone in the area, so they backed off. >> that certainly leaves one with the impression that he would have something to hide. >> well, we can infer into that what we want to, but obviously doesn't look good, it doesn't sound good. we think the same thing certainly. >> all right. i understand in the last day or so you have executed a second search warrant. you went through his apartment. can you give us the nature of what you found there? >> well, through our investigation, we determined there was some items we needed to look for. we hoped they were in his apartment. we executed that second search warrant. we found the items we were looking for, but i can't go into what they were. however, those items will be taken to our state lab this morning. >> also, one of the main pieces of evidence that you've got in this search for this person of interest, mr. matthew, is his vehicle. you've still got his vehicle and there it is right there. we have a source who said earlier that one of the pieces of evidence that you were particularly interested in was regarding that car right there, fresh dirt found on the tires, fresh dirt inside the vehicle. >> well, we're looking at anything that may be in or on that vehicle that may help us determine where that vehicle was a weekend ago, that friday night a week ago. >> i know that the chief had said the other day for land owners and property owners, be on the lookout for fresh tire tracks on your property. >> that's correct, yes, sir. >> all right. good luck to you. >> thank you very much. >> we're certainly hoping for the best. captain gary pleasants joining us from charlottesville. by way, if you have any information about the missing person there, please call the police department now. their phone line is 434-295- 434-295-3851. it is now 28 minutes after the top of the hour. we still have a lot of show left to go and a lot of breaking news to get to. who better to run it down with than charles krauthammer? 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>> yes. look, we had essentially three nations in the air with us. that's egypt and jordan and the uae. the uae was in libya, so that's a continuation of a very strong alliance. the other two countries, one being qatar, the other being bahrain, i don't believe they were in the air with us. they offered us their facilities, qatar has a great air base. we don't talk about it a lot. and the bahrain is where we have the fleet where we had all the tomahawks coming from ships. so that's sort of part of the alliance. but what's missing here of course is europe. no europeans. i guess some of them, british, for example, with the iraq war with had we sort of lost their support and domestic support and they were left hanging and their politicians were badly hurt. but the big glaring absence is turkey. >> yes. >> it's right on the border of syria. it's a nato country. they have an interest in stopping isis. but they've been in a double game. they've allowed a lot of isis fighters to come in turkey has an islamist government, moderate if you like. but they support the brotherhood and egypt and hamas. so they're a little bit on the fence. that's a really, a huge loss for us and not having them. >> it could be a difference maker for sure with the forces that they have. >> yes. >> reportedly they are purchasing black market oil from isis as well. >> right. >> you wrote this days ago, quote, isis was fully aware of the consequence of their beheadings. it was an easily sprung trap to provoke america into entering the war. you say? >> you can explain what they did in two ways. one, they're not as savvy western oriented as we think. they didn't quite understand the effect that the beheadings on television would have on the u.s. and they're surprised by our reaction. i tend to support the other theory, they knew exactly what they're doing. they wanted to bring the u.s. in. they think in the end, like everywhere, we will tire and they also are -- they're mainly right now in intramural competition with the other jihaddists and the world. they want to be the new al-qaeda. they want to supersede everybody. they want to be the one true crusade against the west, if you like. by taking on america, you rise to our stature. i think that was behind the beheadings. i think they're bringing us in was intend. >> so they anticipated air strikes, is what you continue to say in that piece. i guess bottom line is, where are we going from here? our military has done a remarkable job. last night, remarkable get not guilty there and getting this job done. moving forward in terms of training those that will join us to be on the ground as we have said time and time again that we will not. where do we go from here and can a victory be achieved without our own boots on the ground? >> i think we can achieve a half victory for very persistent and determined and that is in iraq because in iraq, we have the kurds on the ground. there are some iraqi troops who can fight and we do have the sunni tribes who, during the surge in 07 and 08, joined us against al-qaeda and we won. if we can succeed in enlisting them on the ground, we win. so i see it as quite possible that we can expel isis from iraq. but in syria, there is nobody on the ground. the best case scenario is that if we train and arm syrian rebels now, the so-called moderates, what's left of the free syrian army, it would take a year to get them in the field. so we'd have a year of air strikes and then we'd be able to feel -- 'cause if you don't have somebody on the ground, who is going to take over their territory? the bad guys. so that's the dilemma. i can see us containing isis, but right now i can't see us achieving the goal the president has enunciated to degrade and to defeat. that, i don't see. >> you mentioned turkey. we had admiral kirby on earlier today. i want to play you what he said about their role. >> well, turkey was not a participant last night, as you know. i won't speak for another government and what they're willing to do or not do. this is a key nato ally, a partner in the region. they actually have borders with both countries, iraq and syria. they have a refugee issue that they're dealing with. so they are, just at this their geography, they'll be a partner here, they'll be a coalition number. they've indicated they want to participate. but we're leaving it up to each nation. >> sounds hopeful. >> well, if you're depending on geography as the factor that will make them join the alliance, that's a bit of a stretch. you have to depend on their national interest, on their sympathy, on their intent to go after isis the way that we do. i'm right now not convinced. i understand why admiral kirby would say that. if you're trying to enlist an ally, you don't want to insult them in public. but i think they are sorely disappointed. there is a hope that in time they might join us if isis becomes a threat to them, but for now, as i said, they like to play this double game because the government is extremely islamist, pro-muslim brotherhood, pro-hamas and sometimes supporting these radical islamists. so we'll wait and see. if we can enlist turkey, that will be a master stroke. >> speaking of someone else ho is not joining us in the fight as of yet, prime minister tony blair said this. >> this is going to last beyond this president, this prime minister, it's going to probably last beyond the next president and the next prime minister. long, hard struggle over a long period of time and you've got to root out, by the way, the real problem is the education systems in these countries that are educating young people, millions of young kids being taught nothing but the koran from early in the morning until late in the afternoon, every day, day in, day out, you're going to incubate some of this extremism. >> so pointing this to this ongoing threat, i'll ask you this: we keep hearing this is a regional war. it has to be taken care of within the region. when you're talking about isis, this is an ideological mission. is that extinct? this seems global. >> it is global and whack a mole. you whack them in one place, afghanistan, they pop up, say, in syria and iraq. you whack them in one place, say in libya and they show up in mali. the prime minister is correct. this is an ideological war. it's world wide. but the thing he stresses and that our president will never say is to use the word islamic. he speaks of them as extremists, as if they're extremeism falls out of the sky. this is extremism of a particular kind and the reason it's a powerful one and a global one is because it's rooted in a religion of a billion people. of course the majority reject the radical islam. but because it's so rooted in a world wide religion, it has a history, it has roots, it has the madrasis all around the world, and unless you identify if and you try in the end to rally the moderate muslims against radicals, we will never win. we might be able to suppress this to make it less of a threat so it is an imminent threat to our home land and to our allies, but in the end it is a fight against a wing -- we don't know how large -- of a great religion and unless we recognize that, we don't know who we're fighting and we need a president willing to admit that in public. look, even the islamic state itself calls itself islamic. and obama won't. >> i want to shift to politics here. as you just brought us there, charles, do we have a president now that is willing to listen to his generals? we've had countless generals and advisors come forward saying we're putting ideas there. they're not being received. the political advisors are the ones who have the weight and pull with our president. do you believe he's turned the page and we're in a new chapter in terms of listening and leaning on the wisdom of his military leaders? >> i think right now i give him the benefit of the doubt. what you're saying is absolutely true of afghanistan. he order the surge, but he did not give the generals the numbers or the time they needed and begged for. he was advised by the military to lead a re-- leave a residual force in iraq. he left nothing and in the vacuum we know what's happened. in libya he led from behind. he didn't do anything. we know what happened after that. we've been expelled from libya. our embassy now is in the hands of in tripoli, in the hands of islamics who like swimming in our pool. i think this time after six years, he may have learned his lesson. i think he's going to allow the generals to do what they have to do and we'll see. although ruling out ground troops in advance was very ill-advised, very political. you can have that in your head, you can decide you don't want to do it, but the president has to stop telling the other guys what we're going to do. you can decide it on your own, but don't broadcast it, for god's sake. >> charles, we thank you for joining us here today. >> pleasure. >> things that matter, fantastic read. should be in every home. i know it's in millions so far. it's right there for you all. charles krauthammer. thanks. coming up, as you just heard, the president will address the nation about syria and then he'll address the world about climate change, of course. we are live at the united nations to break that down for you. and an arab bank just found liable for 24 terrorist attacks that left the united states citizens dead. the verdict is historic and now the same could be happening to isis perhaps. that is next know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. ♪ who's going to do it? 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fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr.? >> yes. and big, bigzq: time. that's a verdict in the eastern district federal court in brooklyn, new york, where court has ruled that yes, the arab bank was liable for the death of 300 people being the approximate cause in terms of their funding habits of hamas terrorists. so now we know in the united states there is a new group that's being formed called the counter extremism project. they're on line. they're a 501 c 3, they're raising money to spread the word about extremist organization. they're collecting money and fighting back as americans. it's a combination of democrats and republicans who served in government, former ambassador ross to israel, former ambassador to the united nations, senator joe lieberman, coming together to say we will raise money and do our part as americans to put pressure on financial institutions that are doing business with isis around the world and stop them in the way that we can as independent free american. >> do you think part of it is frustration? people are frustrated that until the last 12 hours, the government really hadn't done a lot? >> people are absolutely frustrated and say we need to do what we can do as americans, whether it's looking out for folks who have come back from syria to tell the f.b.i., to say these people are providing material support to terrorism. there are tools. we've seen that in the federal court. there will be a damages trial. but there is also moral swasion and constant vigilance. they're raising money as a charity and they're saying, we want to do our part to help the c.i.a., to help the department of defense, to help our troops collect information about what isis and others are doing on line and stop it cold and stop it dead. so i think people are encouraged by what's happening in syria today that the president is stepping up finally, but they're saying, listen, we can do our part as americans, not as american soldiers, but as american civilians andwe're doi. we're doing it on line and raising money and standing up for america and i think that's great. >> i do, too. something we hadn't heard about. peter johnson, jr., thank you very much. >> good to see you. it's now about 11 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up in one hour, the president's going to address the nation from the white house about syria and then he's going to address the world on climate change. we're live at the united nations to break it all down. first let's check to find out what's happening in ten minutes with martha mccallum. >> busy morning. air strikes hit isis and khorasan, got a great team to talk about the breaking news and what's being called an imminent threat to the united states here at home. general jack keane, rudy guiliani, both join us. and the president will make a live statement. this will be his first since this campaign got underway. we will hear from the president live here this morning in "america's newsroom." bill and i will see you at the top of the hour. fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use everyone is looking for ways while to cut expenses.s unique, and that's where pg&e's online business energy checkup tool can really help. you can use it to track your actual energy use. find rebates that make equipment upgrades more affordable. even develop a customized energy plan for your company. think of it as a way to take more control over your operating costs. and yet another energy saving opportunity from pg&e. find new ways to save energy and money with pg&e's business energy check-up. iwith something terrible to admit. i treated thousands of patients, risked their lives, while high on prescription drugs. i was an addict. i'm recovered now, but an estimated 500,000 medical professionals are still out there, abusing drugs or alcohol. police, airline pilots, bus drivers... they're randomly tested for drugs and alcohol... but not us doctors. you can change that: vote yes on proposition 46. your lives are in our hands. a fox news alert. in just one hour, the president will address the nation about the air strikes in syria and then address the world about climate change. eric shaun joins us live from the united nations to break down his schedule today. thank you for joining us. what can you tell us this morning? >> reporter: there will be a very busy day here at the united nations after the president speaks from the white house in just over an hour from now. he will arrive here in new york this afternoon to address the climate change summit. of course this morning, all eyes and the focus here at the world body on the unprecedented american air strikes with the five arab allies last night on syria. we are now waiting to hear reaction from russia. as you may know, russia called the potential of the type of attacks an act of aggression. the foreign minister expected to arrive here at the united nations later on today. russia had called the potential a violation of international law. also waiting for reaction from syria. syria being a sovereign nation. the assad regime had demanded the u.s. coordinate such air strikes with them. that clearly did not happen. we'll see if there is some type of diplomatic protest or a demand by russia or syria for an emergency security council meeting on our air strikes last night. we'll see how that develops later on this morning. the big news after the president addresses the climate change today is what he will do tomorrow. chairing the meeting on isis and on islamic jihad fighters, an family to try and choke off the financing of the islamic state, choke off the foreign fighters who have traveled to syria and to iraq, the estimated 15,000 citizens of other countries who have now joined the islamic jihad of this terrorist group. the resolution in its draft form is expected to pass. it has been written in a very broad type of language to do that. that is expected tomorrow. the u.s. is the president this month of the security council. clearly, elisabeth, we have entered with last night's air strikes a new era in the fight against radical islamic jihad, the challenge of our time. back to you. >> well said. thank you for joining us live from the u.n. it's now about 4 1/2 minutes before the top of the hour. still coming up, more breaking news on deck. we're going to run down all of the very latest developments from syria to iraq, to right here on american soil. you're watching "fox & friends," america on the attack [music] ♪ jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. you're thinking beneful. 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let's keep talking about the jacksonville jaguars sending season ticket holders a letter telling them they have to sit down during the game. do you think that's fair or foul? sound off on our facebook page right after the show. that's #keeptalking. right to "fox & friends." good morning. it is wednesday, september 24. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. this morning a new warning to america. stand by for retaliation. that after airstrikes pummeled syria destroying a new terror plot being dubbed the next 9/11. could it happen again? >> now they have the technology to start this all over again. scares me to death. >> who exactly is behind the khorasan group? and did the airstrikes work? >> meanwhile, an arrest warrant has been issued for the suspect accused of taking hannah graham. so where is she? >> i can think of five or ten places to hide a body easy in this town. >> well, we've got the latest as police hunt a wanted man who is on the run. >> plus this high school football player's post game interview has gone viral. >> do it for each other. you're going to do it for yourself and do it for us and go on with this win. we believed that. we truly did. it's an awesome feeling. >> you're going to hear from him and the rest of his rant which was all positive this horning because mornings are better with friends. >> hello, everybody. welcome to studio e live in the heart of midtown manhattan. yesterday when we joined you, we told you about the overnight strikes on those isis locations in syria. well, now we're learning more about them, and in particular apparently it came in three waves. the first wave was a bunch of cruise missiles that rained down on those guys who were in the khorasan group. the news this morning now is that there is an opportunity, there is a possibility that the leader may be dead. that guy right this. and the news now not so good. it does sound like things were imminent. >> he's 33 years old. believe it or not he's one of the few people if he is in fact dead, but knew about the 9/11 plot ahead of time. he was part of this organization since he was 19. from pakistan over to syria, we didn't talk a lot about going over to khorasan because we wanted to take them out. we did that, not the five arab affiliates. >> there were eight airstrikes eliminating or thwarting this attack as it was planned here. this man, the leader of this group, mentioned in 2005 by president bush. what everyone wants to know about this group is what separates it from everything else? we know their targets are in the u.s. and europe. we found out they're using westerners as bomb mules creating bombs that would go undetectable. >> a lot of westerners in that group had visas tread did i to go. >> specific aim in the united states using westerners for a shield to get through. that is their method they had been planning. the thwarting of this attack is huge. >> the key is the last one because they had this nonmetallic bomb material that doesn't get picked up evidently, and some of the material and some of the security we have at airports. >> this recent attack has been riding, apparently for the past decade this group has been watched closely by our intel. this is something they wanted to stop now and just in time they did. general bob scales on this. >> the danger of khorasan is they bring two things to bear that are still out this. number one is the technology to develop second-generation bombs. this is nonmetallic bombs that can't be sniffed out by dogs. the second thing they bring since they're in syria is the ability to get a u.s. western european passport holding to carry that bomb on an airplane. put those two elements together and the results would have been catastrophic. now they have the technology to start this over again. scares me to death. >> scares a lot of people. remember in early july when the news came out from the department of homeland security, if you want to get on an airplane, make sure when you turn on your phone it actually goes on. because if it's not charged we're not going to let you board with thticular group has been linked to that particular threat. also according to one news source, united kingdom and also australia intercepted messages that said there was a real possibility of a low-level gun and knife attack against people in a western nation by people just back from syria. once again, if they couldn't do it up in the sky, they might have tried to do it in a mall. >> i think the argument can be made any attack that is thwarted and put pause to is a victory there. overall 200 bombs were used, 48 manes, -- planes, still assessing the damage. there are enough still asking is this enough to crush isis? how are these groups relate snd we're going to speak to a former f.b.i. and head of the group to understand what exactly the dangers posed to us are. >> this is part of the bomb damage assessed by lieutenant general mayville at the pentagon. here you see a picture of the facility before and after. when i was watching -- you almost have to look twice. >> you have to look twice. i thought they got them mixed up. the damage is on the one on the right. >> they blew up half the building where most of the telecommunication equipment was. >> that is just it. why didn't they blow up the whole building? essentially they knocked out cable tv for that building. there are some who say the attacks were not serious. jonah goldberg was on tv last night and said what they did in syria was just a light show. colonel ralph peters was on with sean last night. he echoes that sentiment. >> why did we go in at night? this was no air defense threat. could have gone in at daylight. if you wanted to hit terrorists at 10 or 11 in the morning when they were crowded with leaders, staff, flunkies, et cetera. instead we hit empty buildings at night, knocked out antennas, blew out windows. that is not the way to defeat terrorists who behead americans. it is not knocking out windows. it is acres and acres of dead terrorists. that is tactical success. >> that would be dozens and dozens of heads and day after day. we do have good news. we might have killed the leader of al-nusra, this guy the turk, bad guy, bad organization. hopefully he's dead. >> in terms of threat to the homeland, khorasan may pose as much of a danger as the islamic state. >> what's puzzling is after this first wave that came in three particular strike waves, what's the strategy? what's the follow-up? we're not going to have ground forces over this for maybe a year. what next? >> we heard generals saying they put a few options on the table for the president. which one was this? was there a more aggressive one that was put forward that was not selected? >> we're going to hear from the president of the united states. he's still in new york city tying up traffic for the united nations general assembly. >> we have a fox news alert for you now. just hours from now president obama will be addressing the united nations general assembly making his pitch to shore up support in the fight against isis. david lee miller is live at the u.n. good morning to you, david. what's on schedule today? what are the expectations? >> reporter: there's a great deal on the president's plate today and expectations are reasonably high. one of the things the president is going to do later today is he is going to chair the u.n. security council. president obama is the first ever u.s. president to do so, and it is expected that he is going to ask the security council to pass a binding resolution calling for all countries to stop both the recruitment and the transport of isis fighters. yesterday the president met with a number of arab coalition partners to thank them for their role in the ongoing fight against isis and international terrorism. listen. >> it is a wonderful opportunity for me to welcome these leaders, friends, partners from the region and to say thank you to all of them for their participation and commitment to rolling back the violent extremism. >> before the president chairs that meeting of the security council, he is going to address today the u.n. general assembly. that's going to take place about 10:00 eastern time. it is expected that he is going to compare the global mobilizeation against isis with internationalests to combat ebola and the -- with international efforts to combat ebola and the conflict in the ukraine. this is president obama's sixth appearance before the world body. as i said at the beginning, he has a very full day. he will be meeting a number of world leaders face-to-face and for the very first time among them the new prime minister of iraq. elisabeth? >> thank you, david. we have breaking news out of ferguson. heather childers joins us this morning. >> there was a memorial that was set on fire and then we have this. new overnight, the town of ferguson erupts in violence. >> no peace! no justice! >> looters broke into a beauty supply shop. all of this happened after a memorial for michael brown, a teenager killed by police, was burned to the ground. the man wanted in the disappearance of the u.v.a. student hannah graham is now officially a suspect. last night jesse matthew was charged with kidnapping. police believe that he is the last person to have seen graham. the 32-year-old suspect has not been seen since saturday, and that is when he went to the police station asking for a lawyer, but he wouldn't answer any questions and then he disappeared. two teenagers snatched off the streets, thrown into a car and bound with duck tape. scary stuff this morning. for the first time, though, we are hearing the hysterical call to 911 and what they said will stop you in your tracks. >> i don't know -- [inaudible] >> what's the emergency there? >> [inaudible] >> i can't understand what you're saying. i need you to take a deep breath and tell me what's wrong. >> lucky girls this morning. the 16 and 17-year olds were out for a walk in their neighborhood. it was around 2 a.m. they said two men and a woman in a red s.u.v. kidnapped them. the girls escaped when they were left alone 74 miles away. they flagged down a stranger, called police. the girls are okay. the kidnappers are still on the run. lucky. we will see you at the poll. more than a million people will gather this morning at their school's flagpoles to pray. the annual event known as see you at the pole is now in its 24th year. if you're taking part in this tradition, please e-mail or tweet us your pictures and we will air them during the show. >> can't wait to see some of those photos. coming up, bill o'reilly has a strategy to defeat isis. >> what about a mercenary army, elite fighters who will be well paid, well trained to defeat terrorists all over the world? >> could it work? 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[ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow. america striking isis in iraq and in syria and now bill o'reilly propositioning his own solutions to defeating the terror group. >> the american people, perhaps rightly so, don't want to send any more of our troops into these chaotic countries. what about a percent -- mercenary army to defeat terrorists all over the world? >> could that strategy work? elite fighters, mercenaries. joining us is the executive vice president of the amator group and author of protecting the most threatened man in the world, frank gallagher. what do you think of the proposal? >> i think it would work very well and very easily. right now with the current administration cutting back on our military forces, we have thousands of veterans with eight to ten years of experience and multiple combat tours. >> willing to go to yemen one day, somalia the next? >> absolutely if they're being paid well. >> we have a lot of talented guys who are now veterans. first off, here is eric prinz on the very same question. you're familiar with him? he's the man who hired him. >> there are three arguments against it. reliability, accountability and cost. the average cost per soldier in afghanistan is $2.1 million a year. engt american public is war weary, it's not going to work to try to just drive isis out of iraq or crush them in iraq and syria with just air power. it's never worked. someone has to clear them out of those towns, villages and alleys. >> we don't have anyone to do that. we've got to train the free syrian army and iraqi forces. are you confident with either one of them? >> no. historically they have proven they don't have the heart for the fight. >> you were at home for six weeks. you get a call, we need someone to guard paul bremmer. you couldn't wait to do t. what was it like then as saddam clears out, bremmer takes over. each day they would tell you the threats are fast and furious. what was it like for you? >> interesting and quite a challenge at the same time, trying to put the program together to get everybody on the same sheet of music plus dealing with the animosity from the military and from other folks. it was challenging. >> there is a myth out there that there was no iraqi military to disband but you say you saw the military. they showed up. and one of the worst decisions we made was not to hire them back? >> i think when the decision was made to disband the army, we should have disarmed them at the same time. >> that would have been an interesting combination. paul bremer lands. he's wearing his work boots and his suit. what made him the most threatened, because he represented america? >> absolutely. >> yet america should have been hailed as liberators. >> we were initially but as he attempted to rebuild the economy, he managed to alienate quite a few folks. >> frank gallagher, "the bremer detail." thanks so much. coming up, new information about this man who is a suspect in the disappearance of a missing u.v.a. student. here is what his co-worker had to say. >> i can think of five to ten places to hide a body nez this town. >> what else has shown up? and you've seen him on fox news. does this face look like the face of a terrorist. the federal government seems to think steven hayes belongs on a watch list. we'll explain. ♪ ♪ [ hoof beats ] ♪ i wish... please, please, please, please, please. 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joining us fox news contributor dr. michael baden. thank you for being here. you can cut through details like a knife. what will this clothing indicate? what are police looking for at this point particularly with this new charge? >> the problem is when they initially saw him as a potential suspect, it may have been voluntary meeting, so that any d.n.a. that's found in his car or on his clothing could be consentual. what they have to find now is something like blood, her blood which would be probable cause that she was injured in the car or on the clothing or weapon. and they may have gotten some kind of information from a credible source as to what happened. they still haven't found the body yet. excuse me -- the person. she may still be alive. >> there is dprait hope -- great hope that may be the case. does location of blood matter or clothing, in terms of what that indicates for potential guilt? >> i think if it's clothing, blood found in his house, that might be more important than blood found in the car because she got into the car consentually according to some evaluation of the video. but the house would be different. >> the suspect now, he worked as a technician in the operating room. in your mind, is this access to any sort of medical tech-type product works that help him cover something up? would his knowledge of the body help in the case if indeed he is found guilty? >> it could make a connection. it also could make a connection with drugs. they were in a bar together; whether or not there was some type of drug put in her drink or something to make her pliable or something. a nursing technician would know that more than normal people. >> and in fact if he had any of that in his apartment or car, that would possibly -- >> that would be helpful. all they need is probable cause right now to arrest him. they couldn't arrest him previously. he went to the precinct. he left. he was supposed to be under surveillance and he disappeared and they're looking for him. but they found something, or a person gave them some information, gave them enough to arrest him. >> two things. the taxi cab, a fellow colleague said i could find a few places to hide a body. what would you do with that information or notion there? and what are police looking for? >> we don't know what the police are looking for or asking because they haven't released that. but i think one of the things that the taxi person who is his boss in the taxi cab company, could do is indicate places he used to go to or maces that he might have -- or places that he might have talked to him about. he is a person who might have information that the, matthew told him in the course of his employment that would give an idea where he might have taken her. >> where would you go next? what would be your next step in this investigation? >> the next step is to find mr. matthew, and he is in the car, sister's car presumably. and if he has a cell phone, they'll be following the cell phone pings and things. first they've got to get him. they have already gotten material from his house, from the car. and toent view all his -- and to interview all his friends, girlfriends, other people to find out what might have happened. >> was there any material taken from the hospital? >> i'm sure the police are checking that to see what might be missing that he had access to. >> dr. michael baden, thank you for being here. hope for hannah's family. have you seen this? president saluting with a coffee cup in his hands. we want to know what you think. was it a latte disrespect or a latte do about nothing? send us your hash tag e-mails. r.f.k. jr. on the attack about global warming. first he went after reporters and now he wants a law against climate deniers. first happy birthday to kevin serbow. he is 56 years old today. woooo. i know what you're thinking. you're thinking beneful. 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>> i was 12. i was saying sometimes you don't think you are. he's got a lot of on his mind. i don't think he's necessa the marines but it looks terrible. sometimes -- you've got a lot of to do. >> a word to the president. the next time you get off marine one, this is all you have to do. put your coffee in the other hand. >> that's true. but you made it look easy. >> he understands he's going to be at the -- >> he's lucky he didn't spill it on himself when he was saluting that marine corpsman. >> a lot of times i say to myself in difficult situations how do i bail myself out, i say what would leo do? >> leo roacher? >> that too but he does not answer my calls anymore. leonardo dicaprio. he was at the u.n. and he is reall the climate and the shape of the planet. the earth is round; that's good, but he feels as though the climate is changing. and he want the world to act right now. no time to waite. maybe leo could look in the mirror and set a better example. >> he failed to mention he rents the fefght harnlgest yacht and -- the fifth largest yacht and reportedly makes use of a private jet this year. >> and that is rented from one of the largest petroleum executives in the world. >> are you talking about the topaz? >> yes. >> a little bit of hypocrisy when talking about climate change. yet he's creating a lot more co2 than the average american, average person. meanwhile, do you agree with global warming? do you disagree with it, the theory? bobby kennedy jr. wants a law against people who are climate change skeptics and deniers. he quotes sell out the public trust. he says i wish there were a law you could punish them with. they are contemptible human beings. >> i hate those people. lock up inhofe. >> would it be a fine? jail time? >> it would have to be jail. the only way to stop skeptics in their tracks is to jail them. >> one of the first people he would have to jail would be the cofounder of greenpeace. that is an environmental group. he says there is no scientific proof that%humans cae change. the first one bobby kennedy jr. would have to lock up would be the cofounder of greenpeace. we've got a busy, busy wednesday morning. heather childers has the headlines for us, and she starts with a well-known film maker. >> a couple of headlines for you. the most well known conservative film maker in hollywood will not go to prison over illegal campaign contributions. a judge sentenced desouza to five years probation. >> my faith in an independent judiciary is confirmed. my own country tried to put me away and the court said no. >> d' souza will have to spend eight months in a halfway house and his community service, teaching english to immigrants. want to buy a new car but don't want to pay for it? steal it. that is what these thieves did. they made off with 22 of them. they hit car dealerships in california. surveillance caught them stealing a box and matching up the keys to the cars in the lot. >> i wouldn't think this is a random event. there had to be some sort of organization to get nine people together to steal vehicles. >> police say it may be part of an organized ring. they thought they struck it rich, but dozens of scratch-off game players out of luck. now they want ten million from the texas lottery. they say confusing rules fooled them into actual had i believing that they won $500,000. >> if they really meant that those sentences have to be read together, they should have either made one sentence or put the word "and" in between those two sentences. >> despite hundreds of complaints, the texas lottery has no plans to pull the fun five's game. you've seen him here on fox news but does this look like the face of a terrorist? the federal government seems to think so. steven hayes turned up on the terror watch list and he had this to say on twitter: just informed i'm on the d.h.s. watch list. explains why i've been subject to extra screening each of my recent trips. hayes believes it is because he recently booked a one-way ticket to istanbul and returned through athens. those are a look at your headlines. that would be interesting to find out about yourself. >> you don't want to travel with steven hayes because it's going to take a long time to get through -- >> that is the point. >> coming up, chelsea manage, the person behind the -- chelsea manning suing the federal government. wait until you hear why. >> in congress, mid term election, we're going to assemble the best minds in politics to debate next. ♪ ♪ "hello. you can go ahead and put your bag right here." 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only the hard-core political thinkers are going to jump in. that's where you divide. you see a handful of those races where people have decided to take the exact talking points of the republicans or the exact talking points of the democrats. >> here's where a democrat, jim mcgovern said. he blames democrats on the sidelines. he said we're going along to get along. i guess it is convenient politically for some to sit on the sidelines. if this goes really well i support it. if it doesn't, i was against it. that is the way washington works, although there are a number of democrats trying to distance themselves from the president. >> correct. this was done to protect democrats who did not want to vote to authorize these strikes. republicans largely support them. in fact, republicans are the ones supporting the president even now when he launched these here and there strikes. you have a fracture within the democrat party who feel their base does not want another war. going into the mid term you need to feel your base is happy. then you have the people like mark udalls. you have the jean shaheens in new hampshire taking a hawkish position who would have probably loved the opportunity to renalster her vote for airstrikes. republicans, ironically, would probably likely side with the president. >> a question for all of you. tony, we'll start with you. is that why the president went ahead and dropped the bombs a couple of nights ago while congress was out of session, was to protect democrats? >> i think largely. this president's bigger problem is he announced 12 days we would have syrian airstrikes. in that time isis basically left their bases, got into the urban areas and that made our bombing less effective. >> micah. >> the reality is that in this day and age there is no question that the united states had this strike against isis. it is wrng to think it is a -- wrong to think it is a democrat or republican issue. it is an american question. any leader has to step up and deal with it, no question about it. it is intellectual and wrong to assume it is one side or the other. >> jehmu? >> this was done because they beheaded americans. these are thugs. i don't know why we call them the islamic state to begin with. they don't have a state. as the president has taken action, congress could have taken action. they could have voted on this. they didn't. they're a bunch of chickens and i'm glad we have a leader who is not. >> does the president have authorization to do what he is doing? >> absolutely. >> he's using that thing from iraq. >> absolutely and he should have. >> jehmu, micah and tony, thank you very much. coming up, it's creating a lot of controversy. lawmakers are trying to ban lawyers who get their degrees at a christian university happening in canada. are we one step away from that happening in the united states? >> you will meet the high school football player who said this, coming up next. >> it's going to be tough, going to be hard. you're going to go out there and battle, you're going to fight. you're going to do it for one another, do it for each other, do it for yourself and we'll go on for this win. we believed that. we truly did. it's an awesome feeling. it's an awesome feeling. a a a if i told you that a free ten-second test could mean less waiting for things like security backups and file downloads you'd take that test, right? what are you waiting for? you could literally be done with the test by now. now you could have done it twice. this is awkward. go to comcastbusiness.com/ checkyourspeed. if we can't offer faster speeds or save you money we'll give you $150. comcast business built for business. it took guts, it took an attitude. that's all it takes! that's all it takes to be successful is an attitude. that's what our coach told us. he said it's going to be tough. it's going to be hard. you're going to fight. you're going to endure for one another. do it for each other. you're going to do it for yourself. do for us and go out with a win. we believed that. we truly did. it's an awesome feeling. >> we are pumped up after hearing that. even after millions of views, it is still making people feel motivated. that high school wide receiver making headlines for all the right reasons. he joins us this morning. hey there. >> hi. how you doing? >> did you realize how impactful your two-minute speech at the end of a game that you didn't think the team had or no one thought the team had at the beginning of it, did you know how big it was going to be? >> no, ma'am, i really didn't. it was crazy. i was so hyped. i was in the moment. she was an interview? i was like sure, why not? i just started talking about life and then bam, next thing i know it went viral. it changed lives and is amazing. >> what a great communicator. go on line, watch this whole thing. since that time, everyone called you up to try to interview you and find out more about you. you say your team went from 3-0 to 4-0. the biggest story is your mom. your mom has been telling you you can accomplish anything. go for your dreams. this is another example. what you're doing in football is an example of what you're doing in life. >> yes, yes. my mom used to always -- it's such a blessing and it's so humbling to see all this take place because my mom, she literally used to tell me, be the change you wish to seem be the change in others you wish to see. if you want others to be happy, you be happy to them. if you want others to smile, you smile to them. and encourage them. no matter what, just always encourage others and make them feel like they're the best in the world and if you do that, then you're going to become something special. never give up. i love her so much. i truly do. i love her so much. >> wow. >> yes. >> true inspiration there. do you have bad days, 'cause you're so motivational? >> i'm going to be honest with you that i really don't. yes, i have negative thoughts, just like everyone else. sometimes life is a little hard, of course. but i just choose to live it with a smile and positive attitude always and it's awesome. it's great. it really is. it's really cool. >> i've seen -- since we've seen this, gout to watch whole thing, ellen, inside edition, tony robbins called you. what's next for you? how do you build on this momentum? we know football changed your life. but what does your future look like if you can choreograph it? >> oh, man. i would say that it's looking bright. i just have to thank god and give him all the glory. i have to thank my mom and my dad. whatever happens, happens. if nothing happens, then all right. i'm still okay with that because i'm just happy that i got this opportunity to help so many people.xvo3all i was doing was a video of me, you know? i didn't think it would get like this. and this exploded and to see it all happen and take place so fast, it's crazy. >> wow. do you pray before the games? >> yes, ma'am. yes, ma'am. >> wow. and hopefully you'll get another victory, 4-0 now. hopefully those prayers will be answered with a victory on friday and maybe play in college where you're probably going to major in communications or acting and then elisabeth will be your manager or agent and you'll have a chance to retire. >> thank you, elisabeth. >> thank you. he's the only one in full uniform going to mat. >> go, patriots. >> thank you. >> no problem. >> wow. >> has this ever appeared to you? a package disappears in your porch? it happened to a pastor in texas and he took matters into his own hands armed with a gun. good morning. today is wednesday, september 24. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a brand-new warning to america, be on alert for retaliation after united states air strikes bust up a plot being dubbed the next 9-11. just wait until you hear how their explosives could slip past the tsa. and a man on the run. police issue an arrest warrant issued for the last person to see hannah graham alive. lot of uproar this morning. nfl fans asked to sit down during games, fraternities in one college ordered to go co-ed and no more native american mascots for high school sports as well. what makes you outraged? you're going to choose the news straight ahead because wednesday mornings always better with friends like you. thanks for being with us this morning. it is 7 a.m we're glad you are here. heather childers, we're glad you're here. a lot happening overnight. >> we begin with this, federalson erupting in violence overnight. listen. >> no justice! no peace! >> looters broke into a beauty supply shop. the front door was smashed. the windows smashed in as well. all of this happening after this. it was a memorial for michael brown, the teen-ager killed by police there. it was burned to the ground. the man wanted in the disappearance of uva student hannah graham now officially a suspect. late last night, jesse matthew was charged with kidnapping her. police believe he's the last person to have seen graham. the 32-year-old suspect has not been seen since saturday and that is when he actually went to the police station himself willingly and asked for a lawyer, but wouldn't answer any questions and then he left. two teen-agers snatched off the street and thrown in a car and bound with duct tape. this morning for the first time, we are hearing their hysterical call to 911 and what they said will stop you in your tracks. >> what's the address of your emergency? >> i don't know. i need help. >> what's the emergency there? i can't understand what you're saying. take a deep breath and tell me what's wrong. >> he took us. >> the 16 and 17-year-old girls, are lucky. they were out for a walk in their neighborhood. it was around 2 a.m they say that two men and a woman in a red suv kidnapped them. the girls escaped when they were left 74 miles away. they flagged down a stranger who then called the cops. the girls are okay. the kidnappers are still on the run. a bizarre story. lucky girls this morning. >> they were out walking on the street at what time? >> 2:00 a.m. around their neighborhood. >> seems a little late. >> my mom always said, nothing good happens after midnight. i think that's true. >> right. >> it's a warning for sure. my goodness. thank goodness they're okay. fox news alert, less than two hours from right now, president obama will address the united nations general assembly. he's expected to focus on the fight against isis. david lee miller is live at the u.n. what kind of support will he get, david lee? >> reporter: it's expected he's going to be asking for broad support, brian. how much of that support he'll receive, thatosfy remains uncle. this is the president's sixth appearance before the u.n. general assembly. he is expected to talk about the ideology that leads to islamic extremism and expected to address the coalition joining the u.s. and fighting against isis. the president is likely to draw parallels in efforts to defeat isis and the international resolve to fight ebola, as well as to end the crisis in the ukraine. only yesterday the president met with air strike partners and discussed the threat posed by the islamic state. listen. >> we now have an opportunity to send a very clear message that the world is united, that all of us are committed to making sure that we degrade and ultimately destroy not only isil, but also the kinds of extremist ideologies that would lead to so much bloodshed. >> reporter: later in the day the president is expected to chair a meeting of the u.n. security council and it is there that he's expected to call for passage of a resolution calling for countries to stop the recruitment, as well as the transport of isis fighters. one of the key points today comes down to this, the united states is not going to be acting alone, but rather leading the charge against isis and terrorism. brian? >> wow. david lee, thanks so much. yesterday it was all about global warming and yet we were bombing. we are going to be talking about isis and extremism and this khorasan group. >> united states air strikes in syria not only trying o eliminate isis, and trying to take aim at a separate and possibly more dangerous threat, if you can imagine that. an al-qaeda offshoot on the verge of executing a brand-new 9-11 style attack, bringing bombs on american planes is one of their strategies. >> we believe the khorasan group was nearing the execution phase of an attack either in europe or the homeland. we know the khorasan group has attempted to recroup -- recruit westerners. >> bill gavin is the former assistant director of the f.b.i. in new york and president of the gavin group, joins us today i believe from boston. good morning to you, mr. gavin. >> good morning. >> you know, we never heard of this group until a couple of days ago. how about you? >> that's about the same thing. the khorasan group is a relatively new group, kind of a spinoff from al-qaeda. it's kind of the elite, the group of people, the estimate is somewhere between 50 and 100 of them who train, who recruit, and who try to infiltrate our country with plane attacks and develop some sort of a new explosive that can be used that's undetectable by our present protocols. very, very dangerous group at this point. a year ago the reason for the bombing of their particular location in syria. >> exactly. are there american fighters of yet known with ties to this specific group? >> i don't think there has been anybody documented at this particular time, but that is not to say that there isn't some american fighter incorporated with them. it remains to be seen through the analysis of the information we got from the attacks. >> there is a lot of question, too, is whether the administration is going through the proper protocols and briefing the house intelligence committee and briefing the senate intelligence committee to get them up to speed on the dangers out there. does that bother you? >> yes, to a degree it does. but i think that that's a whole separate issue that they have to deal with on a political level, whereas the military intelligence and law enforcement agencies now really have to deal with this on an actual level to prevent any bombings from occurring. >> sure. bill, apparently officials say that there was concrete plotting, but no imminent danger against any specific flight or individual or target. clearly they were intent on trying to do something speck tar collar, but at the same time, the united kingdom and australia intercepted messages that there was a possibility they were going to try to pull off some sort of low level knife or gun sort of attack somewhere, presumably a school or mall or something like that, something to inflict maximum terror. >> as you well know, steve, that's the goal of the terrorists, both psychological and physical terror. in this particular case, i don't think there is any doubt that the united states intelligence=t agencies, military, law enforcement agencies had the advantage of some eyes on the ground there because with this group, which is a closely held knit group of 50 or so of the khorasan, i think with this particular group, we had to have somebody in there who was able to say, look, it's time. here is what they're developing and it's going -- they're going to actualize their plans. we had to do something about it. >> we did hear about that they had dummy computers. they were making people turn on their phones for a while to make sure the nonmetallic bomb wasn't there. but in the big picture, how do you feel about air strikes being effective against thisö group? >> i think initially it caught them by surprise, but they will go to the ground and probably do -- conceal themselves better in the future. they're probably, as a lot of these groups do, go into the neighborhoods again so that anything that goes wrong will affect innocent civilians as well. >> human shields. all right. bill gavin from the gaffe group up in boston, thank you very much. >> thank you. it's my pleasure. as david lee miller told us a couple minutes ago, the president of the united states is in town for the united nations general assembly. when he arrived yesterday on air force one in lower manhattan, watch the instagram images from the white house. yep, that's the president saluting with what looks like a sigh row foam cup either -- styrofoam cup either with coffee or tea. but he didn't switch hands and people are fired up about this. >> jen says on twitter, disrespectful as the latte salute was, i think his treatment of our military are more disturbing. >> another says, i thought it looked like he was still on vacation or going on another round of golf. very disrespectful. >> another says the president's coffee salute is one of many reasons you should be required to have some military background to lead the united states. >> look, obviously he didn't salem put the coffee in my hand and salute a marine. he was buttoning his jacket, he has his coffee. i don't think he intentionally did that. do you? >> i think when you're not intend to go do something, you could be intending to do something. i will give him the grace of a mistake and we'll see if it's corrected. i don't think it's the first time there has been a casual like this from a plane of the i think what our viewers and some writing have been indicating there. >> people had a hard time with bill clinton, too. >> president bush when he left, was asked what he would miss most. he said the men and women serving this country. his answer came from the heart. it was real. i hope that's the case here. >> all right. we'd love to hear from you. join us on twitter or e-mail us or you could facebook us as well. it's 7:11 now in new york city. >> sure is. coming up, charlottesville police are suggesting matthew is now a suspect in the disappearance of hannah graham. we will show what you we found at his grandmother's. >> remember when miss teen south carolina said this famously? >> i personally believe that u.s. americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have that. >> she has a new job, asking the questions. we'll explain straight ahead. good morning, mario. ♪ ♪ a fox news alert. the man wanted in the disappearance of uva student heather graham is officially a suspect. late last night jesse matthew was charged with kidnapping her. but police have no idea where he is. ainsley earhart here now with this brand-new information. ainsley? >> thank you. at this hour, jesse matthew is still nowhere to be found. >> i've got nothing to say to you. >> that's his grandmother. she's refusing to speak to us about his whereabouts. matthew is now charged officially with kidnapping hannah graham. the 32-year-old suspect has not been seen since saturday. that's when he went to the police station asking for an attorney, but wouldn't answer any questions. then he got into his car and sped off. police think that he's the last person to see the 18-year-old before she vanished. investigators searched his apartment and his car looking for any clues. meantime, his former boss, a taxi driver, claims that matthew would know exactly where to hide someone. >> in-depth knowledge, very in-depth knowledge. i can think of five or ten places to hide a body easy in this town. ment. the top guy in the county's forensics department is pathologist dr. michael bodien. he says that former boss needs to go to police with what he knows. >> he's a person who might have information that matthew told him in the course of his employment that would give an idea where he might have taken her. >> police believe jesse matthew might have left the charlottesville area and gone possibly to maryland, new york, pennsylvania, or washington, d.c. where he does have connections. still no worden what they found in order to charge him. but hopefully we'll find out soon. >> we will stay on this story. thanks for being with us. coming up, a story that has many people shaking their heads this morning. should fraternities be forced to go co-ed? has this ever happened to you, a package disappears from your front porch? it happened to a pastor in texas and he took matters into his own hands armed with a gun. he's going to join us next. amen, amen. ♪ hi, everyone. some headlines. osama bin laden's son-in-law sentenced to life in prison for conspire to go kill americans. he's the highest rank al-qaeda member to face trial on u.s. soil. a judge said he showed no remorse whatsoever. and after nearly a century of building military planes, boeing preparing for a future without fighter jets? the company may stop building the f a 18 and 15 jets as soon as 2017 as funding from the government has simply dried up. thanks, sequester. all right. texas pastor sick and tired of seeing the packages from the ups guy or postman vanish off of his front porch, he took matters into his own hands. so he set up a trap. a surveillance camera to catch the thief. when the police wouldn't respond, the vietnam vet took matters into his own hands, protecting his property with his pistol and his own two hands. that pastor, beeny holmes joins us from houston, texas. good morning to you, pastor. >> good morning. >> okay. so it started a couple of years ago, things just started vanishing off your front porch, right? >> yeah. exactly. about a little over two years ago i pulled up in my driveway and found this lady in my yard. when i approached her, she was telling me she was looking for her lost dog. at that time i said, ma'am, i think you might be looking for these packages on my front porch. she said no, no, no. i live in the neighborhood. i'm just looking for my dog. >> okay. >> after that i didn't pay too much attention. >> but things kept disappearing and so you set up a camera on the porch and what did you see? >> well, i saw the first time she pulled up in a pick up truck right after the ups dropped the package off. she came and retrieved it. i was shocked at how bold she was. i said, really, i reported it to the police. >> right. >> left it in their hands. >> then on another instance, what looked like a little pink car pulls up and she gets out again and grabs your stuff. >> yes, she did. and that really kind of took me for like loop. i'm saying, this lady is bold. this lady doesn't care. she pulls in my driveway, now she takes a pastor robe and i'm like, okay. enough is enough. i reported it to the police and once again, they was all looking for a pink vehicle. i do give the baytown police department credit. they was on it. but after a while, my veteran instinct kicked in and i suspect my pastorrialship kicked in. i said i'm going to said up guard duty on her. >> so you had the camera and decided, i'm going to sit here from sun up to sundown and eventually she came back, didn't she? >> eventually she did. i started at 9:00 o'clock that morning and just stayed in that room and i'm telling you, it was a good day for me because i was in the word and then god, today i have to let this lady know she has to stop this. sure enough, around about a little after 5, she pulled in the front of the house, got excited. she went around the block and when she came back, and my porch is a little nook. so when she was walking around the corner, she get the package and leave. this time when she walked around the corner, she met my .45 and me and i knew i had to do it that way to let her know that you violated me for the very last time and the neighbors in the neighborhood. >> absolutely. so pastor, she's caught red handed. so what did she say to you? >> well, she said to me again, no, it's not me! it's not me! you got the wrong person. i'm sitting here look for my dog. i said, well, you just found your dog, bow wow wow. >> you barked at her and kept her until the police came because you are a man of the cloth, i understand you have already forgiven her for doing this, even though it sounds like she comes from family where you said apparently her mother did it as well allegedly. >> exactly. >> you've invited her to your church. >> yes, we have. as a matter of fact, we invited her to the church and we have a package for her if she decides she wants to come. it's cap that we have that have the word forgive. we forgive because the bible tells us that we must forgive those a have wrongly done things to us. so we're hoping that and we are praying that she will come, first of all, give her life over to jesus because she didn't know what she was really doing. that could have been anybody. that even could have been me doing that. i never wanted to put anybody on the ground like that or anything like that. but when you push a person to the brink of enough is enough, i look at it as she was letting the devil use her, i had to use what i had to use. >> absolutely. all right. you have forgiven, but you haven't forgotten. pastor benny holmes at the new beginning church in texas, thank you very much for telling us the story and recounting the day you barked at the cat burglar. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> what a story. 27 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, should you be forced to show your receipt when you leave costco? i do. well, one guy didn't want to and ended up with a broken leg. and remember when miss teen south carolina said this? >> i personally believe that u.s. americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have that. >> this morning she has a new job, asking u.s. americans questions. details coming up. ♪ ♪ white house has been having big security issues lately after an intruder actually managed to jump the fence and make it inside. he made himself a sandwich and hanging out. this is true, the white house says from now on, it will start locking its doors. when asked if he wanted a key, biden said, i'm fine just using the doggy door. no one bothers me. >> we just went there. jimmy fallon always making us laugh there. you know what time it is? it's time for to you choose the news. we love when you do. listen to this, first up, jacksonville jaguars actually sent a letter to season ticket holders telling them to sit down. this was after they suffered their fourth loss of the season 44-17 to the colts. how is that? >> i tell you what, i believe it does bother me when i'm at games and people keep standing up in front of me. >> so what? >> the jaguars are urging people to be just -- if you're going to stand up, stand up in conjunction with the game. not just to stretch your leg. >> you could get ejected if you're guilty of excessive standing. you could get kicked out of the game. >> brian, if you don't like people standing up to cheer, go to the opera. >> that's where i'm most comfortable. i love the opera. >> it wouldn't be as bad if the jaguars are undefeated. they're having trouble getting people to the games. there is a special section where you can stand up. >> there is a new area where they have parties two hours after the games, so apparently you can stand there, but not in the stands. let us know what you think about that. earlier this week the dc council announced they're considering a bill to ban indian mascots at the high school level and throughout the school district, which would be a problem for one school who are the indians. apparently what they're doing right now is they would like to alter the human rights act to ban the use of any race-based nickname, logos, mass scots or team names. keep in mind, this is in the same town shared by the washington redskins and they're not changing their name. >> like this king elementary school is known as the warriors. they have a high school there. so they had a warrior mascot that had indians and native americans. to be more politically correct, they made it african warriors. >> they're worried those mascot names desensitize children. >> really? now here is something that's way overdue. finally frats are being urged to include women. >> they have for years. >> weslayan university in connecticut is ordering fraternities to be co-ed. they said they need o do that. they follow trinity college and hartford which began doing that in 2012. that's like petitioning for women to use the men's room because it's discriminatory. there is sororities and there is fraternities. can't women stay where women go and men stay where men go? >> and in the case of the restroom, i would make the emergency argument. >> you could do that. >> i'm not sure if it holds weight for the fraternity. >> i love what dunkin doughnuts did. they just put a bathroom in. how do you feel about that? do you think weslayan university is on the right track forcing frats to take in women, or do you feel as though it's way overdue? >> i wonder what you think about that. >> frats invite women over just not to stay permanently. you make the call. tell me what your selective outrage is. >> let us know which of those particular stories bugs you the most, whether or not it's standing up, sitting down at the games, whether or not it's the dc council saying you got to get rid of the indian mascots at the schools, or that fraternities should now include their rosters. e-mail us or tweet us and you can facebook us. >> i guess men should pledge sororities, am i right, heather? >> i don't know about that. i don't know if they would survive. >> exactly. >> a lot of the fraternities have little sisters. that's how they are able to incorporate women at some of their events. >> they want to change all that. >> i don't know. we'll see what people have to say at home. >> we're out of problems, that's it looks like. >> a complete turn. days after isis terrorists planned to behead people in the streets of australia, an 18-year-old terror suspect stabbed two police officers. police then shot him dead. the man recently had his passport canceled and he was under investigation for waving an isis flag in the mall. both police are in stable condition. ever wanted to run past those people that check your receipt at the store? have you ever been to one of those stores? you may think twice about it after you hear this. a man from portland, oregon, learned the hard way not to do this. this actually happened. he was trying to get past the receipt checker at costco and that's when he says a work not only stopped him, but karate chopped him and broke his leg. now he's suing that store for $670,000. no comment yet from the store involved which was costco. and not necessarily the smartest criminal. three guys crashed a wedding in new jersey. they ate all the food, drank the booze, mingled with the guests. they probably would have gotten away with it, but they left behind some incriminating evidence. just before they took off, they posed in the photo booth at the reception. police now closing in on them. and it was one of the most memorable answers in the history of beauty packagents, you could say, all for the wrong reasons. >> recent polls have shown a fifth of americans can't locate the u.s. on a worldgsmy map. why do you think this is? >> i personally believe that u.s. americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have that. >> such as, such as, i think that was part her answer. that embarrassing answer not slowing her down, though. kate upton, the former miss teen south carolina now embarking on a career in television. she is said to co-host the new golf show "golf par." good for her. she looks good there, too. hopefully she's a golfer since what's going to be doing that show and can speak on that. >> right. >> time to learn about that. >> i hope -- we should have her on as a guest. >> why not? >> that would be great. meanwhile, it's time to put us to the test because it's a wednesday. that means it's science trivia day with maria molina. >> that's right. good morning. here is a question for today. which metal is a liquid at room temperature? is it a, copper. b, antimony, c, d? >> d. >> too easy this week? >> is d right? >> yeah, it is, mercury. >> copper? look shear -- here is a penny. >> you left the penny in the room? now it's all wet. >> maria, come back! >> if she's going to leave, we should leave. come on. >> come back! >> you can't walk out on us. >> mercury of course is toxic. but if you recall, they've been using it in thermometers, one of those reasons being it's liquid and it can expand when warmer. >> nickels are melting in my pocket. >> those are m and ms. this coming up, our military showing an all star effort with four dozen planes and 200 bombs to stop isis right in its tracks. what's it like from their point of view? leah gabriel will join us next and explain. and federal employees gambling away your taxpayer money at casinos and race tracks. it's happening and you're the one losing. first, be a winner. it's time for the "fox & friends" trivia question of the day. born on this day in 1962. this actress' one woman show about her wedding became a hit movie. e-mail us with the correct answer and you will be today's big winner. >> that's good question, maria, see? time for news by the numbers. first, $2.1 million. that's how much the federal department of transportation employees have racked up on the government-issued credit cards. inspector general's office found workers took out cash advances at casinos and horse racing tracks. what were they doing there? next, $3.7 billion. that's the amount of taxpayer money spent on the botched obamacare rollout. to make matters worse, the centers for medicare and medicaid have no information about where the $3.7 billion went. and finally, 1 million. that's exactly how many people are expected to take part in the 24th annual see you at the pole event. lily from wake forest high school in north carolina sent us this photo of students gathering to pray at their school's flag pole. jennifer from dallas, pennsylvania sent in this one. and this one came from manning, south carolina. a busy day all across america. >> you're right about that. this week a massive show of u.s. force in syria. 200 bombs, 48 planes and we are still assessing the damage. >> so what's the anatomy of an air strike and how exactly are they carried out? joining us is former navy pilot, fox news correspondent, leah gabriel. first off, as you see those strikes, steve brought this up earlier, it looks as though we were not devastating the target. is that how you viewed it? >> the pentagon made a point of letting us know that they intended not to. for example, they showed before and after pictures of buildings where there was a communications array on top. they said look, our target was not the building. it was this communications array. there is a reason for that. we didn't know what it is. but i think they really made a point of letting us know that they can be surgical in the strikes and take out very specific targets. >> command and control was one of the goals. so you have been in the cockpit in a situation like this. tell us what it's like when you're on the aircraft carrier in the night about to take off. >> just to back up, there is so much that goes into the planning before that ever happens. first off, as you said, they come up with a goal what, are we trying to do? they gather intelligence. we know there have been surveillance flights flying. we saw from these pictures, we know they had very good intelligence, very good intelligence going into this. then a set of targets would be determined. then those targets would be handed to a strike group for example, a group of f-18 pilots on the carrier. we would get together and look at the pilots and assess what kind of bombs we need to use, how many different airplanes need to go and fly into the war zone in order to take out that target. so we would specifically weaponeer for a target. for example, the weapon of choice on an fson 18 for a gps strike would be the jdam. that's a weapon that's basically a dumb bomb where you added a gps package onto that to guide itself to the target. you would even figure out what type of fuse you want to use. for example, that comms array that they took out, they said they had an air burst fuse on that. but if we wanted to take out the building, we use a penetration fuse to penetrate the roof of the building. so you decide all these things and you decide how many aircraft you need to do it, how many bombs you need to drop. you don't just go out with a bunch of fights that have bombs on them, you also go out with fighters who have air to air weapons that take out air threats. >> i saw the video, this is what i'm going to do and then you get over the target, i got to change what i drop, i -- it's different. >> it depends on the strike you're doing. when there are troops on the ground calling us in to take out targets, then we're really going to be guided by them and what their needs are. they might say we need to you take out this specific thing or a target of opportunity. help us just down size, decrease the enemy's ability here. but in this type of strike where you had very, very good intelligence, they had specific things they wanted to take out on buildings, specific compounds they wanted to take out. in this case, you would be plugging those gps wave points into yourf1@ob, essentially into its brain before you took off. >> can go into risk and the factors included in that? at night, air strikes at night versus day, what someone actually face when is they're in there about to perform air strikes. >> it's a good question. going in at night actually provides you the cover of darkness, the element of surprise and a lot of people are sleeping in the middle of the night. this type of strike is one where we go in high and fast. one of the big risks i think going into a country like syria, of course, and we all talked about it, was what types of air defense do they have and are they going to be active? so regardless of any communications that we've had with the syrians, you're still going to want to make sure before you go in that you're not taking the risk of getting your aircraft shot down. that's part of the reason you typically would use things like a tomahawk land attack missile from the ships first, but also sending out a stealth fighter first. >> is it like in the movies where you're flying and you know when, for instance, the syrian air defense has locked on to you with the radar? >> yes. >> do you know? >> yes, you do. and as i was explaining the strike package that you would send out, the group of f-18s from the ships t wouldn't be just the guys dropping bombs. there would be a couple of f-18s carrying radiation missiles looking for any surface to air threat like you're talking about and then would drop that weapon on -- >> so it goes over there. >> that's what that missile does is attacks that. but you also have indications in your cockpit that would let you know if you're being targeted to divert any sort of attack on an aircraft. >> it could pull their bomb out of the way. >> we have ways of trying to defeat a missile that's been fired at us. we try and defeat that missile's radar. we have different tactics that i won't go into detail. we also have the weapon that can take out the radar of a surface to air missile. >> that's great that you are part of our team trying to explain it very effectively. former navy aviator, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> really interesting. coming up, it's creating a lot of controversy. lawmakers trying to ban lawyers who get their law degree at a christian university. yeah, it's happening in can did. but are we just steps away from that happening right here in america? is it legal insanity? first on this day in 1973, "we're an american band," grand funk railroad, numerouno in the usa. ♪ ♪ when you compare the top speed of dsl from the phone company with the top speed of comcast business internet... well, there's really no comparison. why pay more for less? call today for a low price on speeds up to 150mbps. and find out more about our two-year price guarantee. comcast business. built for business. welcome back. the answer to the "fox & friends" trivia question of the day is nia verdalo. our winner is from florida. you will get a copy of brian kilmeade's book "george washington's secret six." congratulations. and fans are believing in the bible. it's happening at one law school in canada. they're rejecting graduates of trinity western university because signing up for that school also meant pledge to abstain from premarital relations and oppose same sex relationships. that means graduates will be barred from practicing law over their personal beliefs. is this legal insanity and could it happen here? joining me now, fox news legal analyst, arthur aidala and dr. keith ablow. gentlemen, thanks for being with us today. i want to know how close we are to this happening. but i want to start with the legal insanity angle. is this against your rights? so you sign a pledge with a college. you can't go forward from there? it's going to be held against you? dr. keith? >> listen, this is exactly thought police because the bottom line here is that this is a test of faith. literally. are you going to say something other than what you believe in order to have a profession? can you believe that, that it's come to that in canada, because the law presumes that lawyers can put forward arguments despite their personal beliefs. they agree with the law, the rule of law. >> you're nodding. part of your job is to actually take a position for someone when you may have to just put your own personal beliefs aside. correct? >> yes. 100%. i got to tell you, this is very upsetting. this is absolutely wrong. this better never happen in america. we're seeing a little piece of it with obamacare and them forcing religious institutions forced to accept certain aspects of obamacare that they don't approve of. this is the reverse of it where now the government is saying, we're not going to accept certain things that you believe in and in america, that's wrong. technically speaking, you could have the anti-bald man's university and that should be accredited just because they don't think that bald people should be on the planet earth. >> isn't this discrimination? >> if the government is not paying for it, there are private -- they're a private institution, they're allowed to discriminate to some degree if that's their belief. >> based on gentlemen of the jury. dr. keith, you say? >> absolutely. it's absolutely discrimination. don't think it can't happen here. it could happen here based on what did happen with obamacare and forcing the hands of religious institutions to pay for things that are against their religious beliefs. it won't stop with lawyers if it starts here. it will include doctors, too, like pediatricians and others who have to advise women what to do. they'll say if you are a christian doctor, you can't possibly advise women about abortion. hence, we won't accredit you. >> we agree, keith. >> did i just get to you agree? >> unbelievable. >> i'm taking credit for that. >> there must be something wrong. >> dr. keith and arthur i that so much for being here. >> thank you. freedom of expression, live here at "fox & friends." coming up, bill o'reilly has a strategy to defeat isis. >> what about a mercenary army, elite fighters well paid and well trained to defeat terrorists all overt world? >> bill is here, top of the hour good morning. it is wednesday, september 24. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. the military announcing it conducted more air strikes overnight in syria and iraq. but as america attempts to bomb isis off the planet, bill o'reilly is here with a different strategy. >> what about a mercenary army? elite fighters who would be well paid, well trained to defeat terrorists all over the world? >> live on the curvy couch, bill o'reilly will explain just that. meanwhile, an arrest warrant issued for the suspect accused of taking hannah graham. so where is she? >> i can think of five or ten places to hide a body easy in this town. >> the suspect was the last person to see her alive allegedly. now police searching for the wanted man who currently is on the run. and outrage this morning over the president's salute with a coffee cup in his hands. some are saying it's a latte salute. your e-mails, your tweets are pouring in. and according to all the stats that i saw this morning, mornings are better with friends. welcome to "fox & friends" for this wednesday. we have a fox news alert to start this hour with. more air strikes happening overnight. we just learned that the u.s. military continued to strike isis targets in the country of iraq and syria with a mix of attack bombers and fighter aircraft. the strikes hit armed vehicles and a weapons cache in iraq and syria. all aircraft exited the strike zone safely, which is good news. this brings it to 198 air strikes against isis. bill o'reilly joins us live this morning. >> good morning. >> so bill g to see you. i know "killing patton" is out. we're excited. first things first. >> killing isil. >> that's what we'd like to do. maybe that's your next book. day two of air strikes, not like shock and awe. this is a much different situation. are you happy the way it started? >> i don't know the word happy. you don't want to see the united states having to go to war, but it's necessary. we have the finest military in the world. we just have to be able to harness it. so yeah, i think it's an effective tool to send a message to the world. we're justç not going to tolere this kind of stuff. >> do you believe president obama at this point will take advice from his top advisors, generals? >> yes. i think now that he's committed to it and started beheading americans, he will do what he has to do from the air. i don't think he'll ever admit to putting ground troops in the theater, although they're there already. everybody should know that we have about 2,000 special forces roaming around northern iraq. they're not sitting around. if they say something in a black mask, they're going to shoot them. that's the reality. i think president obama now will conduct a campaign like we're seeing on the screen. >> what did you think about the pentagon yesterday was doing the bomb damage assessment where they said, okay. and we're going to show you the before and after. and the after didn't look that much different than the before. but apparently they took out the cable tv or the satellite dish. it didn't seem like -- we had here on the channel, we had ralph peters on last night and he said there wasn't really much to this. the objective should be to kill acres and acres of terrorists. >> i don't think they want to kill civilians or anything like that. but this reminds me of vietnam where they had the daily body count. then they would come out and say, we're winning and we're doing this, we're doing that. it's more for show. it's more to reassure the american people that we're after these guys. nothir/=jjt with it. but i'm not going to second guess the pentagon. ralph peters is our -- we pay him to be a security analyst. i don't really know. so i'm confident they're doing what they have to do. >> you've been talking about your plan for mercenaries and a mission that way, that form. can you explain that? >> yeah. it's on billoreilly.com. so i lay it out so i don't want to take a lot of time. this is going to happen. we need a world wide strike force to be able to go to the hot spots in the world and confront islamic terrorism, jihaddists on the ground. we need that. but why should the united states have to protect the whole world? it's killing our treasury. we're coming back with wound warriors, with arms and legs blown off. what is germany doing? what is italy doing? they're not doing anything. my idea is raise a force of 25,000 mercenaries well paid. and who pays? the coalition, the 50 nations. if you don't pay, you don't get any protection. it's trained by american personnel officers and nato officers. >> who is the boss? >> we're the boss. nato and americans lead the force. but the force is multi national. they're the best in the world. you wouldn't believe how many military people call me going, that's great idea. that's what we should be doing. it doesn't take the place of the u.s. military. it doesn't downgrade. we still are our military as does great britain and everybody else. this is just a force that can be used as a quick strike force. and believe me, you put that up, those terrorists are going to know somebody is coming for them >> the author who wrote "guarding paul breamer," he's a black water guy and he said there is so many guys like him kicked out of the military or retired out, they'll be willing to do that. >> all over the world. the finest military people. but we regulate it, we under the geneva convention. >> you have mastered taking a popular subject and a very famous person from jesus to patton to lincoln and you found a controversy that still exists today. where is the controversy with "killing patton"? >> the official u.s. army documents say he was killed in an accident. >> car accident. a fender bender. >> we don't believe it. we believe he was murdered. but the relevance of patton today, it's amazing. we need a general like patton. the united states needs somebody who can instill fear into the enemy. >> how would he handle isis? >> the nazis feared him. and hitler devised all his campaigns north of patton so that patton wouldn't be in the theater. of course, then patton turned in to the battle of the bulge and rescued the americans who were surrounded by the germans up in belgium. we need somebody like that. and when you read "killing patton," you're going to apply it to today and go, where is our patton? anyway -- >> you need a commander in chief who is willing to have a ruthless guy like patton?a >> fdr was so-so about patton and truman hated him and eisenhower and patton were like this because eisenhower was a politician. eisenhower never fought in a battle. ever. all right? >> do you believe president obama has a little patton in him? >> no. president obama and george patton are about as far away as me and kilmeade. okay? >> which is far. >> look how he dresses. no way. but the death of patton, wait 'til you see what we lay out. we don't say for sure he was murdered. but after the evidence that we compiled, it's almost inconceivable. >> the picture you paint is this, the war is over, but patton knows we should not disarm. the russian/soviets cannot be trusted. they're trying to take them, they did take all of eastern europe. he's trying o urge eisenhower to do something. no one is listening to him. and then you talk about two separate times prior to his death where he was almost killed in bizarre accidents. >> there were assassination attempts on patton. but you would expect that during the war. however, patton was going to come back to the united states to do a speaking tour. he got in this accident one day before he was scheduled to come back to the usa. he was going to do a nationwide speaking tour telling americans that stealen and the russians are trying to take over the world and that we should harness everything we have, not leave the theater and go after them. and stalin was weak at that time because his army was depleted after the germans. stalin got him. >> is the answer to the question, who killed patton, the russians? >> yes. in my opinion. humble opinion. but again, i lay it out and there is a lot of american duplicity in this book. the oss, forerunner of the c.i.a. this book is a thriller. >> all of yours are. >> it's also about hitler and stalin and churchill. >> we put you, the reader, in the bunker with the furor, with stalin, in the white house with fdr, so you get all the inside dirt. lot of gossip. >> and people care about history. that's key for learning. many people have to read it. you want to read it. these are complex leaders. >> yeah. and it's fun to read it. that's the difference between my history books and most history books are tough to read. >> you don't nod off. the new book is "killing patton." thanks so much. >> nice to see you. we turn to heather who has the headline. >> we have some information on something that happened overnight. taking you back to the town of ferguson, erupts in violence. listen. >> no justice! no peace! no justice! no peace! >> looters broke into a beauty supply shop. the front door smashed, windows smashed. all of this happening after a memorial which was set up for michael brown, the teen-ager killed by police was burned to the ground. the man wanted in the disappearance of uva student hannah grahamwtqx now officialla suspect. late last night jesse matthew, he was charged with abducting her. police believe he's the last person to have seen graham. the 32-year-old suspect, you can see him walking there, he has not been seen since saturday. that is when he voluntarily went to the police station. he asked for a lawyer, but he wouldn't answer any questions and then he walked out. two utah teen-agers snatched right off the streets, thrown into a car and bound with duct tape. this morning for the very first time, we're hearing their hysterical call to 911, what they said will stop you in your tracks. >> got us in their car! >> someone took you in his car? >> yes. >> are you still in the car? >> no. we got out of the car. >> do you need an ambulance? >> i don't know. >> are you hurt? >> i don't know. >> the 16 and 17-year-old, they were kidnapped they say after sneaking out of a sleepover around 2 a.m they escaped when they were left alone. both are safe at home this morning. the kidnappers, two men and a woman were in a red suv and they are still on the run. president obama taking a little bit of heat this morning after the white house posted this video to instagram. it shows the commander in chief saluting a u.s. marine right there with a coffee kaupp -- cup in his hand. it has been dubbed the latte salute. reaction not good. we asked what you thought. matt tweeted this, i cried when i saw this as a disabled vietnam vet, i am disgusted. brian writes, he is the commander in chief. yes, he should, not because it's required, but because these men and women are defending him. obviously answering whether or not he should have done it. technically, the president is not required to salute service members, but it was ronald reagan who started the tradition and that is a good tradition. that's a look at your headlines. >> thank you very much. bill o'reilly, both sides heating up saying, what was the president thinking? >> a latte salute. look, i know a lot oflike presi. but once in a while, you got to cut him a little slack. he didn't mean anything about it. >> don't you think it's odd he's going to the global warming summit with a styrofoam cup. >> doocy follows him around. >> you understand why it's bothering? >> yes, i understand a lot of people are sensitive about it. but in life, i think you don't sweat the small stuff. who said that? >> i don't know. could have been you. >> the big stuff? yeah. but the small -- >> evidently there is a picture of president bush getting off a plane holding his dog and saluting, too. >> right. that's the cocker spaniel salute. if he had dumped the coffee on the marine, we would have a problem. elisabeth is teed off. >> not teed off. it's a suggestion. >> am i out of here now? can i leave? >> watch him tonight. >> coming up. >> he is a well-known fox news contributor. so what's he doing on the government's terrorist watch list? >> yep. steven hayes. and a lot of uproar. nfl fans asked to sit down quietly during the game. fraternities in one college ordered to go co-ed and no more native american mascots for high school sports in washington. what's outraging you? go to facebook and vote because you choose the news. ♪ we've got an update on this morning's fox news alert. brand-new video of this morning's air strikes on isis targets in iraq and syria. military continuing its bombing campaign by blowing up armored vehicles and a weapons cache. we're told all american aircraft have now left the strike area safely. five in all air strikes conducted, bringing the total to 198 strikes across iraq on isis. as you see and hear, another fox news alert. at this hour the manhunt for a cop killer, eric frien is intensifying as the search is about to enter its second week. rick leventhal still there in pennsylvania with the very latest. is there a sense of optimism today or is it like any other day? >> reporter: good morning, brian, steve and elisabeth. definitely an active search going on right now. we've seen state police lining the road behind us. they have their guns drawn pointed into the woods. they say they are confident that suspected cop killer eric frien is in these woods. we asked why they were so sure. they said because of stuff that we've retrieved during our search. we have seen heavily armed tactical teams moving in and out of this rugged terrain over the past several days searching through the thick woods. we've been told search dogs have hit on frien's scent during this 12-day manhunt. despite reported sights and officers thought they had him cornered, they have come up empty handed so far. frien is a self-taught survivalist. he grew up in these woods, he spent a lot of time in the woods and may have spent months or years preparing for this moment, building bunkers and stashing food and supplies in the poconos. there are a lot of complaints from residents in the meantime who have in some cases been forced to sleep in their cars overnight because they have been stuck outside of road blocks. the police say they're trying to make it easier for residents. they've escorted some of them past barricades to get home and now letting more drive in there, even though an active search is still underway. they tell us that it is a slow process. obviously major safety concerns. they actually reopened schools again, but buses are not picking up kids in the search areas and residents are still being warned to keep their doors and windows locked and remain vigilant. we spoke to a local business owner who says this is definitely cost him money because people are afraid to leave their homes. so as you can imagine, people are hopeful that this ends soon and so obviously are the police. >> indeed. rick leventhal live in the poconos of pennsylvania with the very latest. >> thanks. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. only hours after carrying out an historic bombing campaign in syria, president obama says the real threat america is facing right now, climate change. is he sending the right message? we're going to have a fair and balanced debate coming up next. and his post-game interview went viral overnight and it's easy to see why. the inspirational team leader is here just ahead. >> you're going to do it for one another! do it for each other! you're going to do it for yourself and for us and you're going to come out with the win! and we believed that.'s an awesome feeling! ♪ ♪ 24 minutes past the top of the hour, we have quick headlines for you. new overnight, a teenage terror suspect shot dead by police in australia after stabbing two officers. the 18-year-old was under investigation for waving an isis flag in the mall. both cops are in stable condition. osama bin laden's son-in-law sentenced to life in prison for conspiring to kill americans. he's the highest ranking al-qaeda member to face trial on u.s. soil. a judge said he showed, quote, no remorse whatsoever. steve? >> thanks. this morning after launching air strikes in syria, president obama announced at the united nations that the greatest threat against the world wasn't terror. it's climate change. >> there is one issue that will define the contours of the century more dramatically than any other and that is the urgent and growing threat of a changing climate. the climate is changing faster than our efforts to address it. >> but hasn't the climate always changed? how do we answer that call? would it really make a difference if we changed anything? joining fours a debate is the director of federal communications for the natural resources defense council, and the director of the center for energy and environment at the competitive enterprise institute. both of them have really long business cards with gigantic title. it's going to be a good debate. bob, let's start with you. when the president of the united states says the climate change is subtle science, is he right? >> well, i think what we settled is that the carbon pollution coming from burning fossil fuels is indeed warming the planet. no question about that. we just finished the hottest summer on record globally. the 15 hottest years on record globally, steve, have all come since 1997. and we know that this is being caused by the carbon pollution that's coming from burning fossil fuel. so that's the piece that's been settled. do we have more questions about how this pollution is affecting us? sure. will we ask them? you bet. that's how science works. but with you know enough right now that we need to take measures to protect future generations from this widening scourge. that's important. >> all right. minor, let me ask you exactly the same question, when the president of the united states says climate change is settled science, is he right? >> it's not settled in the way he thinks it is. we have had a long period now in which the computer modelers have dominated the debate. they have predicted a lot of warming, and we are in a fairly warm period right now, but for the last 17 or 18 years, there has been no warming. there has been no increase in the global mean temperature. so this whole debate has really been answered. global warming is not a crisis. >> bob, earlier you were talking about how much stuff we pump into the atmosphere. over the weekend there was an item in the "wall street journal" called climate science is not settled by a leading scientist named steven coonen. what he said was the big question -- it's clear that the climate has always changed and always will change. the big question is how much of an impact do humans have on this gigantic thing known as our climate? and the expected shift by the atmosphere in natural greenhouse gasses and stuff like that by humans would only impact one or 2%. the other 98 or 99%, bob, would be from mother nature. >> well, here is what we know, since the beginning of the industrial revolution a couple centuries ago, we have increased the carbon dioxide level in the global atmosphere by 43%. that's a huge number. here is who tell us it's a problem. the national academy of sciences, the national aeronautics and space administration, the guys who put a man on the moon, the pentagon, the commerce department, the state department, the most foundational scientists all over the world are telling thus is a serious problem, we got to do something about it. a couple of summers ago, 2012, we had the hottest year on record here in the united states. i went out and talked to corn farmers in kansas. corn fields were baking. i talked to cattle ranchers in colorado all the way to the ohio river valley. they're having to sell off their herds because the pastures are burning up. wildfires. we had 130 americans killed, $65 billion worth of damage by hurricane sandy. 14 feet of water in downtown manhattan. these things haven't happened before. this is what we're seeing before our very eyes. >> allall right. myron, you get the final word. the climate has always changed, always will change. the big question is how much of that can you pin on man and how much is mother nature? >> the science is in. carbon dioxide levels have gone up by 43% from 270 parts per million to 400 parts per million. that's one part per 2500 in the atmosphere. the fact is that the warming has not met the model projection, the scary predictions and the impacts that president obama and all of these national academies talk about simply aren't there. we do not have more heat waves. we are not having more big storms. we haven't had any hurricanes this year, for example. so i think that this is a kind of fantasy world that they're living in. >> i tell you what, great debate. we thank you both. bob and myron for joining us live to talk about climate change. thank you. >> thank you. what do you think about that? e-mail us. coming up, the forensics are in and police now say this man is accused of abducting uva student hannah graham. so what did they find that changed their mind? former dc homicide detective rod wheeler up next. and a lot of uproar this morning. nfl fans asked to sit down during games. fraternities ordered to go owe ed and no more native american mascots for high school sports. what's outraging you? go on facebook and vote because today you choose the news. ♪ ♪ a fox news alert. the forensics are in and police now say this man abducted uva student hannah graham. last night they filed abduction charges against jesse matthew. so what did they find that changed the case so suddenly? form homicide detective and fox news contributor joins us now. good morning to you, rod. >> good morning. >> this latest charge has everybody asking what did they find to bring these? >> i believe that they found -- they served the search warrant of his home again yesterday and i think they found additional items such as hair, fibers. they could have found seminal fluid. i want to go back to monday of this week to connect the dots here. on this program on monday, you may recall when you and i were talking, i said that the police could have charged matthew with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. well, as a result of that, i believe, the chief must be watching because they probably thought about that and actually not only contributing to the delinquency of a minor by purchasing the alcohol, but once he took her out of that bar, that's abduction. so now that's why we have this charge abduction with the intent to defile, which is an immoral act, he wanted to do some immoral act on this woman. >> when you hear in this story that she had called and she was on the phone with a friend saying i am lost in an area she's familiar with, do you have a sense drugs are involved? >> it's a good possibility. and i'll tell you why. when i was down there in charlottesville this past weekend, some of the students told me that some kids engage in using a drug called molly. we know what molly is. if this guy, matthew, gave this woman a molly, then again, that's going to add to his charge. but one other thing real quickly that's important for the viewers to know, with this particular charge, three things must exist. one of three things. intimidation, force or deception. the deception could have been the part where he bought her alcohol with the intent to have sex with her, guys. >> rod, does the fact that his work position in the operating room, would he have access to certain drugs that could have played a part here? >> yes, he would have access to certain drugs. that's an excellent question. that's one of the things that the police are looking into. this guy also knows, he's been trained how to clean up situations. so that's what he does. he cleans up the operating room after people have their surgery. so are there cleaning chemicals that's missing and things like that? bleach, things like that that he could have used. >> well, the cops are look for him right now. now charged with abduction with intent to defile. rod wheeler, thank you very much for joining us with your point of view. >> and he's still on the loose at this hour. >> last they saw him, he was driving like a bat out of hell. 24 minutes now before the top of the hour. we've got heather with headlines. >> let's get to it. elaborate hair style, wig no, sir longer his signature style, jail taking a toll. brand-new photos released show him bald with wisps of gray hair. specter serving 19 years to life for the 2003 murder of lana clarkson. >> does this look like the face of a terrorist? the federal government seems to think so. steven hayes saying this on twitter. just informed i'm on the dhs terrorist watch list. explains why i've been subject to extra screening each of my recent trips. he believes it's because he recently went on a cruise with his wife to turkey. and high school football players post game interview going viral. easy to see why. >> they had us. but it took guts, it took an attitude. that's all it takes! that's all it takes to be successful is an attitude! >> he's great. he joined us earlier and he says he owes his positive attitude to one special person. >> my mom used to always -- she literally used to always tell me, be the change you wish to see. be the change in others you wish to see. if you want others to be happy, you be happy to them. if you want others to smile, you smile to them. and encourage them. i love her so much. i truly do. i love her so much. >> it makes you almost tear up. those are a look at your headlines. he's a great kid. so positive. >> i love him. >> i love he wears his uniform in the library in the morning. >> in the pads. >> thank you very much. now it's time for you to choose the news. we got three stories. we're going to tell you which you consider the most outrageous for this wednesday. >> this started off, jacksonville jaguars sent a letter to their season ticket holders telling them to sit down or else they could be kicked out of the game for excessive standing. >> the dc, washington, d.c. council is considering a bill to ban indian mascot names at schools because they say it desensitizes youth to the injustices suffered by indigenous and minority populations. this in the hometown of the washington redskins. >> weslayan university saying you hate fraternities. open it up to women. i know fraternity means men. for us, for you to be on our campus, you better give women a chance to be in them. and guess what is the most outrageous, according to you, the most important people in the world. >> 77% of you said the indian mascot ban was the most offensive and had you fired up. 15% of you said the fraternities going co-ed had your feathers ruffled. 8% said the no standing at the jaguars' game had you in a tizzy this morning. >> in dc, this new bill, according to the "washington post," would alter the human rights act to ban the use of any race-based nicknames, logos, mascots or team names as well. you think they do it? i bet they do. >> we should ask native americans instead of answering for them. by the way, my school is screwed. they're the chiefs. >> now that you mention it, probably -- >> now that i bring tup, massapequa is named after a tribe, too. >> we've been learning more about the khorasan group all morning long. there's a lot more about the terror group and the man behind it that's turning up and what we just found out is terrifying. a fox news alert for you now. over an hour from now, president obama is going to address the united nations general assembly east side of manhattan. david lee miller is there outside the u.n. >> reporter: we expect the president to arrive shortly. the general assembly expected to convene at 9:00 o'clock eastern time. you can take a look now and you can see the 140 world leaders and diplomats now arriving at the united nations. we expect the president to tell the general assembly what his vision is of u.s. leadership and what he will describe as a changing world. we also expect that he is going to talk about the coalition trying to defeat isis. he will specifically, we believe, mention the arab nations that are taking part in that coalition. one of the parallels he will draw today is the international fight against isis and the struggle against ebola as well as the international efforts to try and resolve the conflict in the ukraine. we actually expect the president to begin his remarks sometime at 9:00 o'clock. the general assembly expected to convene in just about 15 minutes. steve? >> you'll see the president live right here on fox. david lee miller, thank you. it's the terror group that until this week no one was talking about. >> this is a very dangerous group and al-qaeda offshoot as you know, and we had information, good information that they were very actively plotting and very close to the end of that plotting and planning an attack on targets either in europe or the u.s. homeland. >> so who is the khorasan group and just how much of a threat is this to the united states? here with more, fox news legal analyst, peter johnson, jr. you're breaking down this group. >> let's do the w's. who is the khorasan group? many were trained throughout the 1990s and have family ties to osama bin laden. intel officials cannot confirm that the group existed until last week, although president bush talked about the leader in 2005. they're separate from isis. they're believed to consist of 50 or so hardened fighters. al-qaeda veterans. the leader is a manually look at his picture. allegedly, he was killed in the american attack. >> let's hope this is one time in twitter tells the truth. >> i hope so. >> what is this group about? what do they want? >> their specific focus has been on aviation attacks. allegedly they aim to exploit western jihaddists who have a better chance of placing bombs on planes headed to america from europe. those with european passports, those who are americans. the al-qaeda bomb maker trained terrorists in syria how to build bombs like the 2009 underwear and 2010 printer bombs. the feds have been looking at the notion of putting bombs in toothpaste tubes and clothing to conceal their appearance. >> al-qaeda wants to get back in the news and they want to blow us up to do it. what about when? when do they plan on attacking? >> we don't know. they say there were no specific attacks and we don't know exactly when this group was formed. but president bush did mention the group in a 2005 speech. there was a $7 million reward for the leader of this group and intelligence officials say yes, they've been tracking this group for years. the members have known each other for years and fought together in afghanistan and pakistan and even chechnya. some of them went into exile in iran after the september 11 attacks. >> now finally, let's look at where. where do we find these guys now that we blew up what we think is their headquarters. >> al-qaeda leader al zawahiri dispatched them during the civil war in 2011. the purpose? take advantage of the chaos in syria and recruit western fighters. >> right. of course, we wondered why he's still alive. why are we targeting them now? >> the pentagon says the group was, quote, nearing the execution phase of an attack on the u.s. or europe. members were testing explosives they hoped to carry on flights. however, there was no immediate threat to a specific airline or route. some intelligence officials are saying perhaps they hadn't actually chosen a location, although they were entering operational efficiency in terms of actually doing it. >> also keep in mind, question have help from sam arab nations doing air strikes. when it came to hitting these guys, we did it ourselves. >> absolutely ourselves. hopefully we wiped the leader out. it is a hydra. the heads do grow back. >> it continues to be whack a mole. thanks so much. >> okay. 13 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up straight ahead, it's being called the sexiest faith-based movie of the year. i thought it was a runner up. the stars are here. first let's check in with a man who martha calls sexy, bill hemmer. he promises to tell us what he's going to be talking about on his show. >> we'll see you on radio. the president is about to explain to the world why we're bombing in syria. colonel ralph peters on the fallout so far. karl rove on a war time president. 41 days before the election. what you need to understand about this group called khorasan. a big morning of news. martha and i will see you all in ten minutes, top of the hour. the upcoming movie "the song" is being called the sexiest faith-based film of the year. >> how do you know? >> marry me. >> don't be fooled, though. their message is pure. joining us now is the executive producer, kyle, and the stars, ali faulkner and mr. powell. is it going to be too hot to handle? >> we hope that it captures both the joys and the struggles of an intimate marriage relationship. but i love the fact that it is described as the sexy faith-based film. some people hear that and it makes them a little anxious, like should those things go together? >> it makes a lot of people curious. >> they should go together. so we're excited about a movie that will celebrate passion and love within marriage. >> when you say passion, you're not holding back there. ali and alan, this is a raw get into the relationship, get under the skin depiction of what i think a lot of people can relate to. were you surprised about making a christian movie sexy? >> i think like they go together in a great marriage, i think those passions certainly are there. so we wanted to tell the real story of marriage and what that really looks like on the good side and bad side. and passion is a really good way to describe it. >> ali, you go from twilight success to really turning this here to -- really turning heads when people see this film. what will someone, particularly woman, come away thinking or feeling about their relationship? >> well, i don't know. it depends on wherever the person is coming from at that time in their life. but the hope is that they'll be inspired to see their relationship as a gift, as something that's beautiful and special and inspires you to cherish it and to find meaning and joy in it. >> i know that there were intimate scenes that were shot. how did those go about? alan, is it true there was a body double? >> yeah. the truth is my wife stood in on the scene where i was really kissing my wife the night that we got married. so it was my real wife. and it was a beautiful thing for me to make a movie about the priority of marriage and they didn't ask the lead actor to not prioritize his marriage in making that film. to me, that says a lot about the film makers. it was a really fun day on set as well. >> good kisses there. >> she's pretty solid. >> what's the final message to those that are christian or not want to go see this film or not? why should you go now? >> because it is all about awakening love. i don't know of anyone who doesn't want to be happily married. we settle oftentimes for business partnership in marriage or just to be good friends. but all of us want something more deep and more intimate, more passionate than that. and i think this film goes a long way in helping us get there. >> i think you're right on the money with it. speaking of, i want to show you the box office numbers for faith-based films that came out. "son of god" brought in $67 million world wide. "god's not dead," $62 million. sounds like a lot. but compared to some other block busters, christian films have a way to go. will this sort of pave the road for bringing in more cash for this type of movie? >> what i love about this film is that i think it will appeal to believers, but i also think it is a great love story that will appeal to someone who doesn't really know the bible very well or maybe the story is new to them. it's inspired by the song of solomon and the writings of solomon. if you are not familiar with that, you'll be inspired by a great love story and i think will be challenged in your own relationships. >> okay. that's a good date night then. >> yeah. >> bring up some conversation and maybe good kisses. we want to thank you all for being here. congratulations. >> thank you. >> the film opens this friday and it's called "the song." don't miss it. more "fox & friends" right after this. ♪ ♪ before we go, here is one for the road today. nearly a million students participated in the 24th annual see you at the pole prayer celebration. this photo from wake forest, north carolina. here we have students praying together in dallas, pennsylvania. take a look at that. and this one was just sent in from manning, south carolina. how incredible. and this great turnout happening in augusta, maine. we want to thank everyone who sent in their photos. means a lot to us here at "fox & friends." >> that's right. thanks to the stars of "the song." they'll join us in the after the show show. >> they're just finding out about it now. >> we'll see you back here tomorrow. bill: good morning to you at home. new airstrikes hitting in syria and iraq early this morning. president obama getting ready to address the u.n. on isis that will happen later this hour. but the latest strikes taking out a stage can area in syria and a stronghold in irbil in iraq. top intelligence officials urging americans to be vigilant as these airstrikes continue. what does that mean exactly? i'm bill hemmer, welcome to america's newsroom. martha:

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"on the record" is tracking two major breaking news stories. tonight, new video showing isis savages hostage in iraq. terrorists warn there will be a another beheading and that one will be an american. ebola in america and there is fear it is spreading right now several americans under treatment in isolation. many more under quarantine. ebola impacting all corners of the u.s. tonight from washington, d.c., to texas, to georgia, and nebraska fox news team of reporters tracking reporters' every move across america. casey stegall live in dallas. that's where we start. casey? >> greta, good evening. the latest news involves one of our own. in fact, a freelance journalist, a photographer that was working for nbc news that has now come down with the ebola virus. he caught it in liberia. that is where he has been working, covering this deadly virus outbreak for the network. and we understand this afternoon that health officials say that he will be transported now to the nebraska medical center in omaha, a fine facility as you all know that successfully treated an american doctor for ebola recently. meantime hazmat crews have been at the dallas apartment complex today where the liberian national who boarded a plane and brought the virus to the united states had been staying with family. the place has been scrubbed down while four members of thomas duncan's family remain quarantined inside. the company hired to do the clean up had to secure special permits to transport the hazardous waste that included the patient's bedding and his clothing. finally the cdc says out of the 100 people who have had some sort of contact, either direct or indirect contact with patient zero as is he being called, since he arrived in texas, ten are considered high risk exposures. we understand that is likely his family and medical professionals, greta, who initially treated him before they knew he had ebola. >> casey, thank you. and wilfred smallwood is thomas duncan's half-brother and right now his 21-year-old son is quarantined in that dallas apartment. andrew spoke with wilfred smallwood in texas yesterday and he joins us live. good evening and tell me what did the half-brother say? >> he is optimistic and he is also a little bit scared because it is kind of a vacuum of information about what is happening with his half-brother. again, his name is wilfred smilewood and living in phoenix for nine years. he moved here from liberia nine years ago and brother stayed behind in that country. they haven't seen each other in nine years. they keep in touch regularly. he spoke with the ebola patient just after he arrived here in the u.s. he told me that everything at the time seemed okay. as we now know after the ebola patient first went to that hospital in dallas, he was initially sent home. only to be diagnosed with ebola a few days later. well, the two haven't been able to talk since the half-brother was hospitalized in dallas. on top of all of that, the 212-year-old as you mentioned, greta, is hold up inside that dallas apartment. he was staying with relatives at that apartment where the ebola patient was staying. now he is quarantined in that apartment. he will be in there for at least another two weeks. his father told me his son is doing okay. he feels fine. however, he is not too happy about the hospital's treatment of his half-brother. very don't. he talked to me. in the house here, okay. everything okay? have food. everything is okay. we are here. we are fine. >> i kept it right there. more investigation back home. man went home family. >> mr. smallwood tells me just spoke to his son this afternoon and things appeared to be getting better inside that dallas apartment. he told us the sheets and the towels that the ebola patient was using appeared to be being removed properly. everyone was optimistic and s.s son is not showing any however, greta, is he frustrated that he did not get any information about his half-brother who is still in the hospital. >> okay, if mr. smallwood says that mr. duncan stayed behind for nine years, what suddenly made him come to texas? i mean, was there any discussion of leaving liberia because of the ebola epidemic? >> we didn't get into why he left liberia. i don't think it was because of the ebola epidemic. what he told us is that his half-brother recently got a visa to come to the u.s. to be with his family. apparently he has some relatives in dallas. that's why he was going there. and he got the visa and he decided to come. i don't think it was necessarily related to the ebola outbreak. he had been trying to get a visa for a while. once he got it, he left pretty much as soon as he could to come here. his brother also tells us that he did not have any symptoms when he arrived here in the u.s. >> all right, andrew, thank you. maybe we ought to explore who is getting visas, that might be an effective way to try to monitor. this thank you, andrew. new possible case of ebola in the u.s. right down the street from where i am. a washington, d.c. hospital has a patient in isolation after seeing signs of the deadly virus. for the latest wtte fox reporter alex alexander lemone joins us. what you can tell us about the patient at alexander university? >> there are actually now two possible cases in the d.c. area. one of those cases is being treated at howard university. the other, however, is being treated here at shady grove hospital in rockville, maryland. this is the latest possible ebola case we have learned about. this hospital tells us they have not yet confirmed if this is an ebola case but despite that that patient is in isolation because they have ebola-like symptoms and recently traveled to areas affected by ebola. so, likely somewhere in west africa. now, the other patient at howard university in d.c., that patient also has similar symptoms, also recently traveled to nigeria. and we have learned that that patient is actually a student who checked themselves into the hospital because they were feeling ill and howard university also says they are also keeping that patient under isolation as a precaution. both hospitals are waiting for test results to confirm whether or not these are ebola cases. but they are concerned and being very cautious because of where both of these patients recently traveled to, greta. >> alexandra, thank you. and the experimental drug hopes to be the wonder drug z map. credited with the saving the lives of the first two americans who contracted the ebola. this is the problem, and it is a huge one, there is no more of it. so now what? professor eric alman with the research institute is part of the team that developed it. she was on the record. nice to see you again. >> nice to be here. >> you are the expert. how fast you can create more? and what's in the way? it can't be made overnight. it has to be yen to. this is the thing. sheets are research products. those research days. we have never seen ebola outbreak on this scale before. other diseases were higher priority last year. so, the teams that make the antibodies vaccines are working as fast as they can to makes a much as they can and get to the people that need it. the people infected right now, the best course of action is to contain and control. to identify the cases and get them the proper medical treatment that they need. now, this is the major problem at this point. there is 50 new cases in sierra leone. those beds are full. more medical teams and more beds. the other things that are needed are more diagnostics. a lot of these viruses look the same. ebola start with a fever and headache. every one of us have had a fever and headache before. >> all right. >> there is another virus called lasa that is endemic in western africa. thousands of cases every year. endemic in the same places. a lot of these places people could be infected with lasa. diagnostic from one. mundane flu or malaria that needs the highest level of isolation. there is a company called core genics that has one in 15 minutes and i have worked with it myself. >> i call it the wonder drug which probably makes you a little crazy that i say that because we are so desperate to have the a drug that does the trick. seven people have taken it so far two have died out of seven. pretty good odds. one of the biggest problems often is government regulation. they get in the way. are there any regulations that are getting in the way now in terms of you getting this to market faster? >> well, my expertise is i'm the molecular biologist that figures out how it works. the government regulatory agencies have working as fast as they can to move these things as fast as they can. i haven't seen this to be a big problem. but, you know, the doses have to be made. this is a research product and the human doses just simply weren't available and that gave away everything they had. more is in production and they are working as hard as they can on that. >> all right. if you started today, for one dose, how soon could you make that? >> i don't know this really isn't my expertise. the focus needs to be letting the people who do that manufacturing as fast as they can. focus on getting the teams in the care and the beds to the patients. to developing faster diagnostics so we can tell somebody who has flu from somebody who has ebola. >> all right. thank you very much for joining us. and you understand that i just have sort of a sense of desperation. i understand -- >> -- we all do. >> i know you do too. you know a lot more about it than i do. so, anyway. professor, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. this is a fox news alert. isis releasing a vicious new video showing the beheading of a second british hostage and warning an american captive will be next. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us. horrible news. >> it is. i have taken a look at the video. it's somewhat shorter than the previous execution videos that runs about 1 minute and 40 seconds. a similar format. this one begins with the british parliament approving the joining of the u.s. led collision with the air strikes. then it goes to that very familiar shot you see there on the screen with the hostage and then the executioner. >> this seems to be a direct response to the british parliament vote? >> correct. this is what is important in these videos, time stamped very specific references supposed to communicate we are responding to you. we are responding in realtime to your action. this is the warning to you. not that this is ancient history but they are moving in a very expeditious way. >> the american, that's next. what you can tell me about him or her? >> what i would say about these videos is this group is really going down the same track we saw with al qaeda. they don't put up false videos of executions or of identifying their victims. and they identify the american in this video as someone called peter and based on our research, he is former military, former army ranger and he had left the military medically discharged honorably and began the syrian assistance group when he was kidnapped in october of last year. until now the family has remained silent thinking it would help its case. >> any idea how many americans would be held. >> that's a great question. the ball park i always worked in based on my reporting has been about half a dozen. two as you know have been executed and now there is the threat of a third. the one that i think may be the most highly prized of the group, if you can put it in those terms is this woman from california about 24, 25, 26 years old. >> of course in case anyone has any doubt about islamic extremist, boko haram also executed nigerian pilot announced today. anyway, thank you. >> you are welcome. >> now an absolutely terrifying warning from military families. isis now using social media urging their supporters to go to military homes and slaughter the families in them. congressman peter king joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. how are you? >> very well. i guess we can't expect anything more from these savages than something like this. but this certainly does create, you know, more alarm here in the united states tonight. >> it really does it shows that isis is just focused on whether it's beheading people. weather it's threatening to slaughter american families of service is men and women. this is an evil, evil organization which in the past even terrorist organizations have tried to appeal to people, to show that there is a certain goodness about them. in this case isis wants everyone to know they are evil. they decided to go the route of terrifying everyone. >> and usually think of war as sort of soldier on soldier. here they actually want to go after the military families. of course, we have seen with the beheading that the justification for tonight's beheading is because of the british parliament vote. this group will stop at absolutely nothing. what are we doing to alert or prepare our military families? >> first of all, the military has to be on guard. they have been notified by the pentagon that they should be -- for instance have their eyes only all the time. be aware of everything. don't list any phone numbers, addresses, email addresses. don't give any indication about their family, their family members. they should not really put anything out there whether it's on facebook or anywhere on the social media themselves or even in old fashioned telephone directories. nothing about them that the enemy could find. in effect, it's almost like being under cover. you know, they are in, i hate to say almost like a witness protection program that these families have to try to put themselves into to, you know, protect themselves from this type of attack. especially if they are families that are overseas. remember, these don't have to be families close to the firing line, which they wouldn't be. but anyone who can you identified as a member of the military family has to be on the lookout. >> all right. you arennen the counter terrorism subcommittee. that what is your assess isment of the president's strategy and how is he doing? >> i support it as far as it goes. i mean, obviously the air attacks were essential. i think we need more massive air attacks and they should have begun sooner. now that we have started them they have to be massive. we have to realize even though we have a coalition quote unquote. the fact is the u.s. is going to do the overwhelming amount of the fighting. for this to be effective the president should not be ruling anything out. he should not be saying there is no american boots on the ground. >> he has said that he has told them that, no boots on the ground. >> and wrong. wrong to say that he should stop saying it. and he should let the enemy think that we're willing to do everything and anything. we are willing to stay there 100 years if we have to. willing to use every weapon at our disposal if we have to. let them think that don't take anything off the table. keep them on defense. keep them guessing, keep them scared. >> i think that with that one the cow is out oof the barn in terms of boots on the ground from the president. >> well, again, if he can just change his tone. because i think one of the reasons why you are not seeing more support from allies as far as actually getting engaged, rather than just lending a name to it, actually being willing to putting ground troops, a number of these countries don't know if they can trust the president to stick this out o. last year he said he was going to attack syria and didn't. that really left a lot of uncertainty in the minds of leadersed in the middle east in particular. that if they do commit themselves, if they do say they are going to get much more engaged than they are right now that the president just may decide to walk away or slow it down. and the fact that he keeps talking about what he is not going to do, one thing that does he alert the enemy but also causes potential allies to wonder just how serious he is. >> congressman can, nice to see you, sir. >> thank you, greta. thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. and american boots on the ground, well, fighting isis, well, that's right. an army veteran from wisconsin apparently joining the kurds in their battle against isis. not the only american. fox news confirming the kurdish government getting calls from navy seals, army rangers and marines, all volunteering to come join the fight. sergeant johnny jones joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> good evening, greta. sergeant, what do you think about this? a man from wisconsin has already gone over age 28. he was fighting the kurdish people. >> well, you know, i read the army times article. it was very brief. not a lot of detail and spent one year in the army. you can't car him a war veteran. is he is obviously a veteran of the army. has my respect. but, in my opinion, nothing good can come from veterans or reservists or any american trying to go there. and fight alongside the kurds without our government or military sending them there. >> well, sergeant thrrkts certainly are a lot of people who are quite enraged and understandably so. you see these videos and read these stories about isis taking over these kurdish towns on the border and stuff. you know, i understand it but it does seem like it would lend itself to a lot of chaos. >> well, exactly. you know, you see everything from a marine jailed down in mexico and seems like we are doing nothing to help him out. and you have these towns and cities in iraq taken over after so many of our brothers and sisters died to take them for the peaceful there. at the end of the day. for an active duty service member to deploy, there is a training package. there is intelligence necessary we don't go over there and point a gun and pull a trigger. we are diplomats. we do nation building. we knock on doors and help people out. we empower the innocent people to take over their area from the bad people. we're not just there pulling triggers and kill people. if we are going to do an air strike. we need intelligence so we are striking the right place and doing the right thing. if we can't coordinate that without some type of physical presence then what can one or two or three wrap bows do seas fighting alongside curetedz? in my mind not a lot. except bring in the opportunity for isis to kidnap someone. my condolences go out to those who have been kidnapped and have been executed. i see nothing but bad news from something like this. >> certainly seems like a death wish to go over by yourself to sort of align yourself with any group at this point it. >> absolutely. you know, if this authority authority-o-story is true. i hope it he makes it back safe and our government does more in the physical war and propaganda to let our enemies know we will come after them and destroy them. as far as what's going on in iraq and syria with ice is sis. we created a vacuum there and up to us to make sure we finish that job and allow those innocent people to take control of lives country. >> thank you sergeant jones. >> thank you. >> did vice president biden say terrorism is not a threat to the u.s.? you are going to hear directly from the vice president. and then former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. john bolton is standing by to go "on the record." also new developments right now in the disappearance of university of virginia co-ed hannah graham. 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ask your doctor about farxiga and visit our website to learn how you may be able to get every month free. developing now the search is wydening for missing uva student hannah graham. disappearing for thatly three weeks ago. shocking information from four other cases that may link to the key suspect in hannah's disappearance. jest jesse matthew is the suspect. griff jenkins and ted williams are on the ground in charlottesville investigating. >> three weeks ago, university of virginia student hannah graham mysteriously vanishing. and for charlottesville, virginia, her story is anything but unusual five women in the last five years have gone missing here in the charlottesville area. if i'm investigating this, got to look into it. got to see if there is any connection. >> police have established a link between hannah and morgan harrington who, on october 17th, 2009, disappeared soon after leaving this charlottesville arena. >> she took off and started walking away from here alone. >> morgan heads down the street, crossing this fateful bridge. >> she was hitchhiking. and in hitchhiking that means one thing, she was trying to get a ride from one location to another. >> and that's where jesse matthew may come in. >> maybe she entered a cab and one thing we know is that jesse matthew was a cab driver. >> just a month after morgan's disappearance, police find her t-shirt in these bushes. a break in the case that forensic experts may be able to use to link morgan with jesse matthew. >> that is gold to a law enforcement officer. >> of course, morgan and hannah are not alone. sandra martin in lynchburg, which is about an hour's drive down route 29 went also missing. her remains were found. the crime has been unresolved. >> but what's matthew's connection? >> jesse matthew attended liberty university in lynchberg. >> and it doesn't stop there. >> griff, there is a fourth woman missing. samantha ann clark lived in virginia about 30 minutes away from here went missing in september 2010. that is also an unresolved murder. >> in november of 2012, another unresolved disappearance in november 2012 a transgender went missing in this neighborhood. this is another thing, another case that law enforcement will be looking at when they look at jesse matthew. >> the question is: will police be able connect the dots? >> charlottesville definitely has a problem with missing girls, and someone is trying in law enforcement to try to connect the dots, to try to to determine do you have a serial killer or these isolated incidents of missing girls. former homicide detective ted williams joins us. talk about police connecting the dots. if you have five disappearance in the same area. why does it take to the fifth one before you try to figure out maybe they are the same maybe if they had done it earlier we wouldn't have gotten up to five. >> you have got something there. i cannot understand for the life of me. one of the reasons that they may be jesse matthew did not have from what we understand a felony record. so therefore, his d.n.a. was not on file i do know aggressive investigation. maybe that would have led to jesse matthews. fifth one. >> hannah graham is getting a lot of attention. morgan harrington, when she went missing in 2009, she had also been given a lot of attention. but what when you must understand when you look at jesse matthews are two things. motive and opportunity motive we know christian newport university was sexual assault. lynchberg assault. motive, opportunity. he was a cab driver. >> also got -- schools, liberty you mentioned one, liberty university, uva, virginia tech, all these colleges, you know, in virginia. and i mean you would think that some detective would have thought why are so many women disappearing all these universities? and why wasn't there -- i mean, i know these aren't always easy to solve. about when we get up to five, i wouldn't want to be the one talking to the brown family if i worked for the police department. >> you have got to understand what law enforcement now, they are not looking so much in hindsight as they are looking for a break. certainly like to know is forensics concerning jesse matthew automobile. has that come back? can they come back. hannah graham with that automobile. >> he is in custody. so now they have d.n.a. from him presumably, right? >> university of missing women is five in the area? that's all they have? i am sure that they are looking not only that area but beyond that area, remember there was a one in fairfax county that was alleged to have been assaulted. >> he was a cab driver and we don't know if he went beyond. anyway, maybe he is not even the one who did it. who knows. he will get his trial. presumed innocent. ted, thanks. >> my pleasure. vice president biden slamming fellow democrats and not just any democrats. slamming former secretary of state hillary clinton and former cia director and former secretary of defense leon panetta. you won't believe what the vice president said this time. "on the record" political panel is standing by. plus, new video out of hong kong. protesters shocking the city. check mate for the chinese government? if you don't think top of my game when you think aarp, you don't know "aarp." aarp's staying sharp keeps your brain healthy with online exercises by the top minds in brain science. find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities. when folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. former secretary of defense and director leon panetta slamming president obama for handling of iraq. vice president biden returning the punch slamming the director. vice president biden slamming panetta for writing inappropriate books on the obama administration. washington examiner susan father rich choo, jackie and laughed i wrote kaboom. what biden did was kaboom. went after panetta but also referring to secretary clinton. what's the problem? >> you see this certain administrations fairly often at this point in the administration. remember when condoleezza rice went after richard clark for which he wrote about iraq during the bush administration. i think biden has a reason to defend obama, obviously. and to go after hillary and i think that might be a little bit about 2016. >> any problem writing a book while the president is still sitting in office. he didn't complain about the content he complained about the timing. >> you have to remember that this is personal for him too because robert gibbs in his book vice president biden being wrong. robert gates yes on every foreign major policy decision for how many years. >> that wasn't panetta or clinton. >> right. >> he was part of that group. that was like their lunch table dogs there need to be a bile on right now. at war. do we need to be hearing more folks president obama especially former and administration officials. i think that's what he was getting at. >> i see a common theme here because in gates' book he says that both clinton and panetta, all three were upset that the president kept such tight reign over national security didn't let them in over the division. making decisions around them. during his tenure and putting a distance between themselves and the president. so i think this is just, you know, it's unusual, bush's staff did not write books until they were out of office both of them at the earliest. i think this is a pattern about people being really upset with the way he ran -- he has run national security. >> also a touch of don't blame me. what hillary clinton said in her book is she said that obama that she had pressed obama to arm the syrian mod democrats. he wouldn't with, now look at the mess we are in. don't blame me. >> she may run for president, too. >> panetta was critical of obama saying he shouldn't have withdrawn all the forces from iraq. don't blame me basically because they say. >> they are all saying he didn't let them in on these decisions that he kept them at a distance. three of them together said that. >> distance he made the wrong decision, they say. >> it is worth noting though that panetta and the collins are very close personally. >> factor here, i think, too. is that clinton she has got to distance herself clearly if she she runs for president which she is poised to do. >> the timing this is a time when president obama is making very serious decisions, you know, in the middle east, dealing with the new crisis just about every day. so, do we need more voices out there? >> you know, my theory on the panetta book it isn't out yet. i think this is all the publishers that they put all the red meat out for everyone to get upset about. the book may be 500 pages, 499 saying president obama is is the greatest president ever. say they leaked this bad thing and get everybody fired up and fire up the vice president and everybody else. >> that was hillary's book, too. marketing the publisher. >> is bryden running 2016? i say he gets out of the way if clinton decides to run. >> i think he toys with it until the very last minute. >> i just don't see it he is not taken seriously. there is no donors out there. they are all locked up. where is his operation? it's just not there. >> that's true. i think he is there in case she says no. >> i'm not convinced that hillary clinton is going to run. >> i'm not either. >> she is do everything she wants to do in terms of the clinton global initiative. >> would the party be mad at her? >> i don't know. who knows. anyway, it's not going to be dull. we know that for sure. anyway, panel, thank you. you have a wonderful weekend. and wipe out, government regulations and red tape is drowning small businesses. now, we're going to take you to a surf shop struggling to stay afloat next. we know we're not the center of your life, but we'll do our best to help you connect to what is. [light instrumental music] ♪ female announcer: recycle your old fridge and get $50. schedule your free pickup at: now to or "on the record" investigation big government destroying small businesses. tonight we will take to you a small surf shop where increasing government rules and regulations are wiping out the business, literally. griff jenkins reports from ocean city, maryland. >> surf's up in ocean city, maryland. for one surfer's small business the surf isn't the only thing that's up. >> just got our health insurance renewals and it went up 41%. 41%. >> mark pew founded the caicos surf shop 25 years ago and for him and his 10 full-time employees health insurance premiums are are hitting him like a tidal wave. >> 22-year-old guy paying over $300 a month for $2,000 deductible plan. and it's gone up 41.07% from last year. i really don't know what we're going to do. not a lot of these smaller companies offer healthcare and we have chosen to and now, unfortunately, it is getting unaffordable for us to do. >> skyrocketing healthcare cost isn't the only problem. >> got the one-two punch on me. i have got increasing healthcare premiums, doubled up the state of maryland has just increased the minimum wage. it's going to eventually get up to $10.10 an hour. >> most of pew's standoff makes more than minimum wage anyways. since summer is the busy center caicos brings in an additional 40 temporary employees, mostly teenagers who make less than $10 an hour. >> most of our staff is 17, 18-year-old, 16-year-old kids. you know, they're not trying to raise a family on minimum wage. i can't pay 10 bucks an hour to a 16-year-old kid. from a higher price for summer employees means just one thing for mark. >> i'm going to have to cut six employees to keep our labor costs the same. >> for caicos surf shop a rising tide isn't enough to wash away rising healthcare costs in a a minimum wage increase. >> i would love to hire more people but we can't. the math just doesn't work. >> the caicos surf shop has been in business for 25 years. now its owners worry if they will be able to keep the doors open for another 25. let's all go off-the-record for main. here is a challenge we face here "on the record" on any very serious issue. and there are many weave have to report what to report, how much and how. take, for instance, ebola. it's here and it can dill kill you. the odds are against you if you get ebola. ebola is highly contagious and, admit it, who wants to to sit next to someone on a plane or a bus who has symptoms or being the healthcare worker at the emergency room who checks in the symptomatic person. so how should we report about ebola? on the other hand we don't on the one hand we don't want to set off panic that is irresponsible. on the other hand if we don't alert to you a real health crisis that can kill you that is likewise irresponsible. also want to keep up the pressure on a serious matter so that our leaders don't put it on the back burner afternoon not give it the urgent attention it needs. so the questions remain, how much, how should we do it and how should we make those decisions? what should we consider? so you tell me. you go to gretawire.com and give me your best advice how we should make these decisions. that's my off-the-record comment tonight. coming up, protesters lashing on hong kong. you won't believe this video. that's next. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. ♪ want to change the world? create things that help people. design safer cars. faster computers. smarter grids and smarter phones. think up new ways to produce energy. ♪ be an engineer. solve problems the world needs solved. what are you waiting for? changing the world is part of the job description. 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