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now, because itjust sounds like a carbon copy of this terrible story involving lucy letby... the fault lines lie with the ward, that was one of the findings. there needed to be fundamental changes in culture where patients were put first. in this case, these were the most vulnerable of patient playback, they had no voice apart from their screens. why is it that senior management are still able to silence their peers in coming forward and reporting concerns? —— the most vulnerable of patients. they had no voice apart from their screams. it’s voice apart from their screams. it's uuite voice apart from their screams. it�*s quite difficult for people to believe the enormity of what was going on. also we have to remember it took nine months at a trial, to take the forensic detail which allowed thejury to take the forensic detail which allowed the jury to come to the verdicts that it did... this was no

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the press conferences that the team have been doing through the week, knowing serena a little bit myself, she is such a calm and composed manager. all of the coaching staff are. the messages that have been coming out is just like another game to them. obviously, you can't forget the enormity of the situation in the game. you can't, as soon as you step out onto the pitch tomorrow, they won't be able to switch any of that off. but i'm sure the preparation to get to this point, since the semifinal, it is another game, 90 minutes, they need to focus on what they've got to do. don't worry about spain. they will be really clued up on how spain are going to play and they will be able to deal with that. just focus on the task in hand and go out there and do it. 9c! just focus on the task in hand and go out there and do it. 90 minutes of history either— go out there and do it. 90 minutes of history either way _ go out there and do it. 90 minutes of history either way for _ go out there and do it. 90 minutes of history either way for both - of history either way for both teams. you mentioned you know the coach, sarina wiegman a bit. what is she like? she is being seen as a lucky charm for them in many ways. i

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disaster i've covered, jim, over many years. this is unlike any search and recovery that a lot of these veterans have seen. they're searching house by house and normally if it was a hurricane you'd know which room you were searching. here the entire house is just turned to ash and it's as if 3 1/2 square miles of a vibrant community is cremated at the same time, so the enormity of the forensic search is just -- it's hard to wrap your head around. we'll give you a glimpse of that next hour and hung out with some of the cadaver dog teams but the emotional piece of this, i don't think we can fully comprehend. we're in paradise, one of the most beautiful places in the world filled with some of the most generous, warm, hospitable aloha spirit you'd want to meet going through insufferable pain that most of us want comprehend. >> i've been to lahaina myself. it's a beautiful, beautiful part of maui, and it's depressing

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you've heard it from the press conferences that the team have been doing through the week, knowing serena a bit myself, she has a calm and composed manager, all of the coaching staff are and the messages that have been coming out is kind of just a homage to them. it's another game to them. you can't forget the enormity of the situation in game. as soon as they stepped out onto the pitch tomorrow, they won't be to off, but i'm sure their preparation to get to this point since the semifinal, it's another game, 90 minutes, focus on what they have to do, don't worry about spain, they are really clued up on how spain will play and they will be to play with that and focus on the task in hand and get out there and do it. 90 minutes of history either way for both teens. you mentioned that you know the england coach. what she like? she has been seen as a lucky charm for them in many ways. i mean,

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because we've had all of these accusations laid out in court, and today is the moment where we get to see her and hear her directly. you know, she's going through the detail of the medical notes, and she's being asked about that quite closely, and she's dealing with those questions in a very assured way. she comes across as a bit mousy, a bit normal. you can't possibly marry that with the enormity of what she's being accused of. lucy letby says she was always on duty as she was willing to do extra shifts, and was trained to care for the sickest babies. and that staff shortages and poor maintenance had left the unit unsafe. but after seven days in the witness box, the pressure is starting to show.

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time, they said they wished, on reflection, they had gone to the police. but they had to sit there and watch these doctors really battle with their own consciences, really, to realise the enormity of what it was that was going on on that unit. obviously, a lot of the parents in this case, they had their statements read, so the prosecuting barrister would read a great statements on the final hours or moments of one of the child's lives, and there were a couple of sets of parents who came in, and as i say, they had to relive what must have been the worst evening of their life, sometimes in dramatic circumstance, where the mother of one baby, i think we touched on it early, baby e, the mother arrived to hear her child making horrendous sounds, lucy letby being alone with a baby, and a nurse told the mother to go back up to the ward, that a

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through it has been a grassroots effort and volunteer organisations getting them the supplies. i think the authorities from the outset have been asking for patients. it is a painstaking and very difficult task, the recovery operation going onjust difficult task, the recovery operation going on just below me. they have been asking for patients, they have more teams, there are now a0 canine teams, there are now a0 canine teams, the dogs have to take rest because of the heat and the terrain. there are now seeing —— signs of recovery, three schools in lahaina did survive, they are being cleared of ash and debris, and the air and water quality is being tested, people are very keen to get children back to school as soon as possible so they can be with their friends and be learning instead of kicking around and thinking constantly about the enormity of what happened here. president biden is due to visit the area on monday. there has been some criticism that he should have come sooner. there

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but in the initial stages of anything like this, that has to be thought of as the most important thing, is, when are people going to come and help? and then, as you go down the road of absorbing the enormity of what has happened here, to keep the attention, as often, a huge problem. but, that's because the world we live in is here today gone tomorrow. >> governor josh created stopping developers from buying lands that were destroyed by these fires. because potentially they can be really developed in a way that is not quite true to the history and the roots of some of these particular communities. how should that rebuilding process start? >> this is a huge blowback to the history and the legacy of these islands. lahaina is the old world capital. at least some of these islands. and we should be reminding of the good graces of culturally,

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the enormity of this is hitting most of us in the continental united states and we can't believe it. did you have any inkling that this would get so out of control? >> no, i mean, that morning my son called me from -- i should say texted me from school. he's an eighth grade teacher. he said the power went out. there's a little fire. he texted back later that the fire was under control. it was out. so the wind was strong. some debris landed close to us. we knew the winds were strong but there was no fire at all. so i took my wife to the airport and went to work. later on that afternoon, i got a call from my son said hey, there's smoke. i'm having a tough time breathing.

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one more thing to worry about here. but just to answer your question, i will be haunted by the smell, the sight of walking into what was one of the most well-preserved, historic beach towns anywhere in the world. the ground littered with dead birds that just fell from the sky that was on fire. and people really just going through the five stages of grief, trying to figure out what's next. this will affect so many people across maui. because the tourist center on the west side employed so many people from other parts of the island. so we're just sort of getting our arms around the enormity of it right now. >> i'm hearing the sirens in the background. a sight and sound that certainly was not available as people had literally minutes to flee their homes. as you mentioned, the road back open to get there. but so many homes destroyed. what are people supposed to do? are they looking at -- are there other parts of the island, as you mentioned, that have

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