and teach lapd for a week then boise, idahos, i told my partner, we have down time, let s do something productive. i said let s talk to experts inom prison. i want to interview violent afonders and learn from them, i had no idea this would morph to a program. our prison visits sooned to an official research project, there was no short shortage of cases to focus on. in 1970s and 80, america was plagued by some of the worst serial offenders, the son of sam, the coed killer and john wayne gacy, possible inspiration for penny wise in stephen king a it, he killed 33 young men and buried them in the crawlspace of his home. these stories and more on what you hear in my new fox