and frankly, you are an adviser to pence. pence was physically put in danger as a result of all of this. >> sure. sure, he was, and i think -- storied career -- clermont institute -- advancing conservative causes. i think it's tragic to see, this is sort of the final chapter, likely in his career. but, i think you listen to his comments, and i think you can have it both ways. it's either, i'm advocating for first amendment rights to mislead the american people, i'm protected to provide falsehoods to the american people under the first amendment. or, it's, i have evidence that shows the election was stolen. and if only i could bring that forward, and i could prove that. and -- seems that where the president still, is despite the fact that there have been many recounts and many lawsuits, there is still the claim that i have evidence to prove it was stolen. but, which is? it it can't really be both. it's either, i'm going to prove the election was stolen. or, actually, i have a first amendment right to mislead, and that's what i'm protected by. and it seems like they are trying to argue both at the
outsource the export industry, not a single one. and nowe kw we know the whether defense is intentional. >> at first we thought it was a slip of the tongue. now, just like the sovietue propaganda was designe. soviet to force the population into submission by swallowing the most absurd, illogical laws, the weather defense serves the exactgalal li same pa >> if you can get the people to accept and repeat blatant falsehoods, you destroy their sense of justice and integrity. grity.you don't have to make tha believe it. you just have to make themo accept it. so now, even with dark sxen hu elementary evidence of joe biden and hunter biden in business together, flying to the same countries, accomplishing the same goals, secretly emailing each other about the same pursuits, sharing bank accounts, even splitting appetizers at business dinners, the left will still tell you this is a story about a father loving his drug addicted son. that's called psychological warfare. and you have a choice of
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but the problem for consumers is prices are still rising. >> bill: this is so true. >> obviously you look over the total of this era, most americans in real terms inflation adjusted have gotten a pay cut. they aren't happy about it. >> bill: read the other one. >> dana: this one from inflation punishes americans joe biden lies and lies. seems the overall biden strategy here just the lie and lie and lie and figure everyday voters will buy it. huge mistake. every trip to buy milk or fill the tank proves what a disaster bidenomics has been. the housing prices, trying to get into a new house at 8%, food, gas, also in a little bit we talk to somebody about the high cost of childcare. things that are essential if you go to work. >> i think the falsehoods are the reason that -- one of the reasons it's hard for the president to recover.
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his fights have been against "the new york post," his fights have been against the daily news, "the new york times," been against tabloid culture, fought rosie o'donnell, fought all of these people where he would throw out outrageous claims, people would be shocked, same thing with "the apprentice." he would get good ratings, and didn't matter he was lying all along. he survived that. we've been talking about certainly since georgia, how we've now moved from sort of, you know, trump world, where you can just shoot b.s. all the time and have the firehose of falsehoods and get away with it because it's good press for him. he's always one step ahead of the tabloids. that's ended, and i think we got a great indication of that yesterday when you and i were talking about the fact that donald trump was going to have
2020 election was even conducted, and this one, while it may be tough for americans to wrap their hands -- their heads around the privileges that a former president may have with handling classified documents, some of the ambiguity in the new york manhattan case. you heard the former president on the phone saying, hey, find me 11,000 plus votes so i can win the election after it was conducted. you have the governor of georgia, brian kemp, a republican, right, the secretary of state, all of those saying that the election was held fairly and it was run fairly as well and that the former president is delivering falsehoods essentially in saying that it was stolen from him. this is serious business and you can see the trump attorneys are taking this one particularly serious. >> and he's listening to them. >> for now. for the moment.
stolen. now why is that important? because you have to have a certain level of intent. there are allegations people knowingly stated lies and falsehoods. more importancely, you have jeffrey clark, presidentially appointed and confirmed by the senate and head of civil division of d.o.j., went to harvard and georgetown law school and he is telling the president that the election has been stolen and the department of justice can do something about it and other equally prominent lawyers agree with him. other lawyers on the, side are saying you can't do that. is the president, for picking one set of lawyers over the other is a criminal? he's got, at least on this part of the indictment, the former
and glen kirschner, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. you wrote an essay arguing that this is not the man we saw in new york all of those decades ago. so when you hear the mayor say he has not changed, what goes through your mind? >> look, i mean, rudy giuliani was considered kind of a paragon of integrity in the 1980s. i tell the story about an old childhood friend who came to visit giuliani with a framed picture of the two of them together when they were children. giuliani took the picture out of the frame, took the picture, and gave the frame back, and he said i can't take that frame. he was just scrupulous about his ethics. that is not the giuliani we're seeing today, the person who's tried to overturn the election, someone who pushed the fake elector scheme, someone who told falsehoods about the election