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they want someone who can persuade on the issues that matter the most to them. i look forward to per se to the american people, right and left, within my base and on the far side, to making sure that we move this country forward. using common sense, finding common ground. >> and some folks are listening, definitely rich ones. scott is leading the gop pack on the campaign cash front with nearly $22 million to spend. with that, let's get smarter with the help of our lead off panel tonight, nbc news capitol hill correspondent, a hero who is outside in south carolina, and she has been on call althia long, ali fatality. peter baker joins us, chief white house correspondent for new york times, and mark mckinnon, former advisor to both george w. bush and john mccain. he's one of the co-host on a very popular circus on showtime. mister baker, to your first, let start with the debt ceiling. there is still no agreement, and this would be absolutely brutal for the entire u.s. economy, and joe biden is the

>> well, the question is -- i'm running for president, period. i plan to win. the question is, what the voters want in their president? they want someone who can persuade on the issues that matter the most to them? i look forward to persuading the american people, right and left, within my base and on the far side, to making sure we move this country forward using common sense, finding common ground. >> some folks are listening, definitely rich ones. scott is leading the gop pack on the campaign cash front, with nearly $22 million to spent. at that, let's get smarter with the help of our lead off panel tonight. nbc news capitol hill correspondent, a hero who is outside in south carolina and she has been on call all day long, ali vitali. peter baker joins us, chief white house correspondent for the new york times. and mark mckinnon, chief advisor to both george w. bush and john mccain, and co-host on the very popular circus on showtime. mister baker, to you. first let's start with the debt

maggot to me. >> well, i think it's the only way republicans are gonna win again. and when i hear tim scott saying things like common ground, which i have not heard a long-time from republicans. and the other thing about tim scott is he is not a victim. you know, the trump-ology is all about being a victim, were victims of this, victims of that. desantis does the same thing. and i think it's the youngkin tim scott message that is really the way forward, and how republicans will win again. >> peter, if donald trump is so far ahead of everyone else, lightest him scott had more money? >> well, look, because there is a hunger among people who have money for somebody other than all trump. larry ellison, you mentioned him, he was somebody who had donald trump's ear. trump quoted him quite a lot, when he was talking about things like covid or whatever. and obviously, people have decided they want, are very least see the can hedge their bets and see the confines one else out there, in the republican donor class. i think there are two paths here in the republican primary. there's the take on trump and beat him path, and there's the