being relied on less by putin. he's not consulting them as much which is maybe why they're speaking out. but you do need to build a consensus among elites that this is going to destroy the country, to have some kind of intervention, which in the past has led leaders to be forced into exile or thrown out by a coup. >> if history is our guide, is that the most likely scenario for a strongman like putin to be removed, to be taken down? >> it is. i would caution that this, again, would take a very long time, it could potentially, because russia is most fully realized institutionalized thievery since something like gadhafi and many influential russians have been part of the spoil system for a very long time. they are wedded to this regime.
spring when he saw gadhafi particularly killed in a drainpipe, killed and beaten. and i think he has been moving steadily since that time to align russian policy to take himself back to the days of empire and greater control. but it might be too late. and certainly his tactics are not working as he would have imagined simply based on the timetable of results. there is no way i can imagine he would have thought this was going to go past a week, let alone where at day 11 he hasn't secured any of the major cities, at least those in the north as well as odesa in the south. >> the longer those issues and resupply issues go on, the tougher it is to maintain force effectiveness in the field. let's get you back real soon. douglas london, really appreciate it. thank you so much. >> thanks, michael. all right. we'll take a break. when we come back here on cnn newsroom, we'll take you to the polish-ukraine border as thousands of refugees continue to cross the safety.
engage in aggression against ukraine or anyone else. as you know, and as you heard us say repeatedly, we do not have a strategy of regime change in russia. >> any time you say or even as he did suggest that the policy was regime change, it's going to cause a huge problem. this administration has done everything they can to stop escalating. there's not a whole lot more you can do to escalate than to call for a regime change. >> in the mind of putin, someone who hawatched and rewatched, you know, old videos of gadhafi being taken and killed, this kind of thing, it will play on his mind. and it could complicate matters going down the road. >> all right. joining me now, retired admiral, james stavridis, also david rode. welcome to you both. thanks for joining us on this. >> admiral, let me start with you on this one and talk first about kind of the words that the president used at the end of his
regime change towards russia. but i think what we all agree on is that president putin cannot be empowered to wage war. >> in the mind of putin, someone who has watched and rewatched old videos of gadhafi being taken and killed, this kind of thing, it will play on his mind and it could complicate matters going down the road. >> all of this as a new nbc news poll taken before biden's remarks yesterday shows seven in ten americans express low confidence in his ability to deal with the invasion. we're met with nbc's mike memoli at the white house, cal perry in lviv, and josh lederman joins us from warsaw. cal, let's talk about what happened in lviv yesterday and what you're seeing on the ground there today. >> reporter: look, i think we saw a return to normal, at least the normal that was the postwar
be in power to wage war. >> in the mind of putin, someone watched, rewatched, you know, old videos of gadhafi being taken and killed, this kind of thing, it will play on his mind and could complicate matters going down the road. >> hmm. a new nbc news poll taken before biden's remark 71% express low confidence in biden's ability to deal with the invasion. joining us now from the war front nbc's cal perry from lviv resident josh letterman from warsaw with latest on refugees there and my colleague tracking the latest military action. welcome all. fir to cal in lviv. where is the fighting still going on and what can you tell us specifically about mariupol. hearing updates on humanitarian corridors. any updates? >> reporter: absolutely. just heard from president zelenskyy dropped on the
>> well, i think it sends a terrible message. it is not a rotation, a regional thing that everyone gets. countries are supposed to show they have a record of promoting and protecting human rights. members are obliged to kwroup hold the highest standards of human rights. and countries can be removed. we moved the libyan regime. that succeeded after gadhafi launched a war against his own people. we have launched the same campaign against russia. we need a member state to introduce it. we are turning to the united states. secretary of state blinken said a month ago, asked the question when he spoke at the council whether a country that commits terrible acts should sit on the council. estonian foreign minister is on the record calling for it. we need the united states to formally introduce the message.
gadhafi's libyan regime was removed. very stronger reaction from tkpwaour tear res. >> literally it turns the whole notion of having a human rights council on its head. maybe there will be news today. thank you very much for joining us, keeping us abreast of this situation. . >> thank you. so, she was forced to flee the nazis as a baby with her family. now a holocaust survivor has been pushed out of her home again. this time because of the russian invasion. the incredible story of how she escaped, next. papanera chefs have crafted a masterpiece... succulent, seared chicken... a secret aioli... clean ingredients... in a buttery brioche roll.
right, one has to say. saddam hussein and assad and mubarak did protect the christians. >> like tito in yugoslavia. there's always an argument -- like gadhafi can hold strong minorities together and protect them. but the fact there are other factors at work which are driving them out. the rate at which they are leaving is absolutely shocking. there's not many censuses done, but let's take iraq. there were something like 1.5 million christians at the last census, which was in the time of saddam. now the numbers are somewhere between 150,000 and 300,000. we don't know but more towards 150,000. >> do you think part of this is people in the west particularly have a conception of christianity and christians which is entirely western and white, if i may say so, and the truth is the original christians, jesus, was a middle
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