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the we have a blood test of will do for. we have the stall at the dignity of every south african in this company. nelson mandela he said bridges roads and squares named after to special in the well healed suburbs of johannesburg. black liberation icons are all the rage. drillers lawyers officers and mentions lined the streets all of them on guard interviewed with security systems and that includes the nelson mandela foundation. mandela's third wife cross and michelle runs the foundation along with the director whether the grand old man still made any decisions is unclear i will work really revolves around something that has legs he is called the center of memory and dialogue the expectation is that now liberate a country we have majority rule we should have houses for everyone we should have cars for everyone to everyone and they forget that all of that is going to take a long long time jogging would be that we see ourselves as a catalyst for social change. the city of johannesburg can be a nerve wracking place to live. no other town in south africa has such a high incidence of assault burglary and rape. me unemployment and crime have slowed south africa's progress in the post regular era. this nelson mandela square in center news a pleasant place this is where the rich and beautiful meet along with those who aspire to join the elite club. the father of the nation is a source of inspiration his charm and presence electrified the masses feeding he was at the head of. that might need them and get back to stay there be a better life for all of us but it needs the whole country to do that. god for the hour we. really need we sitting on a powder cake. and it is. something that surprises me that those people have not by. that embrace no no no no no districts worlds apart sentences and alexandra township one is the epitome of affluence and modernity the other a deprivation and lagging development. sometimes they collide hotel managers great talent your heart is screwed money to paint pictures of their own misery it's it can be used to keep the not paying school fees. they're getting free education so we can see what i will a lot of other families. for one why do. they outperform this he's a. let's mundo it's got about the when when when it comes in the food the food you could feel the vibration it would feel about being the mandela mecha our. own xandra has its own claim to fame in may one thousand nine hundred forty one nelson mandela moved into seventh street in the township. there was no running water there was no electricity still he and his friend justice felt like they were in seventh heaven they breezed city air and they met interesting people. and met with people like walk to school and realise what life was like for the whole of the south africa. he says vision of a different life setting. necessary. in one nine hundred fifty five the african national congress the a.n.c. issued to freedom charter in response to the boer regimes racist system we must really get started what was said ship down on june twenty sixth one thousand for five so that forgotten half a century later mandela's successor topple mbeki echoed its credo. all national groups will have equal rights. the people shout shout in the country's wealth and then shout said of mine goes away it's a hard sell. for your wife winnie mandela and nelson mandela now divorced once formed the glorious figurehead of the south african liberation movement. when forty year old mandela led his bride sixteen years his junior to the altar her father said it's not love you're marrying my child but struggle. you. her husband was facing charges of high treason as in his first marriage he was hardly able to provide for his family but they were happy. first came their daughter. then since he was born and there were four of. us. but these were bloody times and schonfeld in one nine hundred sixty police officers fatally shot seventy two black demonstrators. that are many people feel that it is useless and. asked to continue talking. against the government. is on the rabbit. to end when. her husband and his comrades were arrested and put on trial for high treason. and is going to try to ensure they. can pick a father which i wonder. if and in one thousand nine hundred sixty four came the verdict. we had to finish. victorious. kept. the the almost three decades later the legend. every prisoner walk free step down in front of the masses as an idle girders sit still for one month was my prison number four big eighteen years. that our same peers and our brother now are not. you are supposed to bury cures for that number theory were. on the ferry to robben island where monday was imprisoned visitors are shown videos of him during the first years of his twenty seven year incarceration. was was the first his new life was unbearable the. day. her own to her name to her. for her. true ultra stood was the. the leave. your concept but it him and. they were states when they had the foresight they were kidding people. they also knew what was possible and not possible but they insisted on being with the present this self with them and the twenty seven yes fairly important in helping him to. suffering has the capacity the possibility of making someone i have the compassionate and caring audience can and be tell you fortunately for us. the suffering. helped now. because the. first years were pure torture the idea was to consign the prisoners to oblivion to have them forgotten even by their families letters were routinely burned or censored or and. meanwhile the state terror continued and the headquarters of the secret police and the notorious force to square in johannesburg prisoners were tortured and killed. the regime was out of control. the nelson mandela foundation has valuable materials from this time. a secret service employee returned one of monday was confiscated notebooks security . it contains handwritten copies of letters he wrote on robben island historians are preparing the documents for publication so the next generation can find out what it was like. if. it. were. there followed years of cruelty. winnie mandela was next in the regime's firing line. that he never wanted a good man get in there on their premises. so they knew they were going to have to release him at some stage so i think the destruction of when the was really also. planned way of destruction. the government's plan worked when he mandela was embroiled in scandals affairs and murder cases. i have a feeling she she just lost control. over her. head . positive greatness at the time of keeping him his name alive and trying to feel himself to be the person that. when even della attended a memorial march for the victims of the student revolt in soweto in one nine hundred seventy six she was right at the front when hector pieterson became the first of many children to be shot dead by the police as ex-president mickey bows down in honor of the victims he knows how many of these young protesters are now part of the last generation of the townships and he said. remembering so we're doing a five star hotel with the rich and beautiful a crash course in history death drama resistance a state of emergency deliberation hero as a spectator of history has big dreams are still present in art but who have all too often been forgotten in life. among them patrick lakota he too was tortured he too was a prisoner on robben island. there was that sense of the shark that said that. we should live through. companies that. it made you forget that you had too many years to spend it and that if you look at it you you know it's you know is this possible actually it's good because it has a liquidity and that it's in this is that it is and this is that. step that you should be doing what is happening you should do a duet that is the only way in which you can get what we. behind the scenes mandela and the a.n.c. had long been pulling the strings he was transferred to a prison farm on the cape. but it will move to major political open debate. within the frame to do i have met just a president to govern for the regime played for time but time is running out finally she meant tomorrow we are free and i ask him. what would you say. lynn the winds of change were blowing f.w. de klerk became president by february one nine hundred ninety apartheid was a thing of the past and nelson mandela a free man i. think. has nothing. ever that you can. measure against. for freedom i'm free. he was reunited with his people and his friends i think at times i've been and walter sisulu there was no embrace for when he was. featured. was. like jesus christ. in the fountain fifty. london in the summer of one nine hundred ninety by now nelson mandela was an icon of the world over the. warm side step out of prison. with what as a member of the thirty. and what ever expectations are. there with that he needs to fill me not as an individual. as a moth as a member of a. monday the megastar his autobiography was a best seller for months exclusive editions one for astronomical prices. come to nine hundred ninety four he had no. income he also felt that he had to support himself i suspect that he was in secure. not having enough money to many child i started which was expected of him my grandma has never been able to save money for the twenty eight kids that he was imprisoned. so. everybody's been very kind since he's been out of prison see the poor almost mollycoddled in the way he lives and. a family itself and. he was to find no joy in winnie mandela spiller in soweto. the bedroom was occupied by her lover. but nelson mandela didn't want to give up the love that had kept him going in times of need the masses also wanted to see their idols happily be united . in the political realist now over seventy was deluded in private. he really loved her when she got up to walk to say the table that he couldn't take his eyes of. on good days his wife made him breakfast. when his daughter is a nun and got married mandela went all out to make up for his feelings of having failed as a husband and father. the glamorous wedding was also a farewell to his own personal delusion of a happy family. once again nelson mandela showed great generosity despite his pain he accompanied his wife who held her lover's hand to her trial where she was charged with accessory to murder despite all the evidence he and his lawyer stood by her. if the fact that she was there was a reason for having done what she did and he was probably the reason not being there by his side. it's not emotional make up to say sorry he was close to being broken. and he had to divorce weenie that was why a lot of the biggest crises he paid. for allied liberation. so we turned to the people for solace. despite all the euphoria deliberation process was still fragile. nelson mandela and f.w. de klerk were awarded the nobel peace prize. and finally in april one thousand nine hundred four the first free elections were held. it was south africa's finest hour the clerk was gone one day was the new president his daughter congratulated him and his ex-wife lavish to pieces on the vice president. i want the younger man. my close up i was. afraid that in the trade my view and bacall. about disappeared on the lot about orphans. to everyone's delight president mandela created the feel good democracy of south africa queen elizabeth the second made him an honorary member of the order of merit . for. his friend bill clinton was the first state visit or reconciliation monday of this time even the wives of former oppressors were invited to his perplexed friend mandela responded talk to them. why what we should do to them about cunts myself to continue what are you going to say so you had something to say to that mrs said don't leave my side mr mandela just stay here back. here to the disgust of everybody that's. what she was going to be i think for him the key thing was to bring to unite south africans that he wants it to run deep at the time. when hearings of the truth and reconciliation commission terrible things came to light the father of the nation heard of the sufferings of the victims and the motives of the perpetrators he saw his friend a man of god despair. we cood you in this to mediate legal paper treatise. whereas with regard to the the the the the victims we could only. recommend to the government. today the rainbow nation is suffering from a devastating in china aids epidemic. the number of orphans has been rising with a number of picked. for a long time the government of top billing becky neglected to fight against aids. to help the millions of impoverished orphans mandela founded his children's fund and demanded generic drugs for those infected. addicts with. even a few more yes and actually it will be given and much of that to uplift trying it for natural science. and develop. the nelson mandela children's fund is located just a short drive away from the mondale a foundation celebrations are held on the founders birthday. or or are far along also or horse. all three of his fellow. the fund was set up to collect donations develop projects and distribute resources. but its glossy image is not without its critics. why. such a way he knows cannot. even told the people we'll see those people just going there and some of them have caught the. bug the way the thousands and we need the plan but he's still going to pull away from us. so their approach is to go into communities identify all things who live with families often to adopt them and they support into the families so the selection criteria is that the bike munity. the children's funds annual report shows just how successful its global fund raising activities are. even arnold schwarzenegger had donated some money the world gave him very easily he didn't even have to ask but he did and he would always ask for money for not for himself personally but for the foundation although he doesn't spell it out like that is to say i need. a million two million or ten million i knew you would get it if it was collected for the children's fund and then it would be made in the name of the children's fund and it would be handed over to the children's fund which was collected for the nelson mandela foundation the check would be in the name of the nelson mandela foundation and that money would go directly to the nelson mandela foundation if the check was made out to. nelson mandela between two syllable of the proportions and. i think the bulk of it was made up to nelson mandela. so you orders have always for the course we need for the course you can bet never for you or me for the people. and that is something i do but i mean that has lived through with many of us watching you get what you like that you think you'd like to join given take turned into just take privileged groups have forgotten to share much to my deepest displeasure. but life has its good sides to. the best father ever. i particularly never thought we would ever see this day with that he would be president and to see him celebrates his eightieth birthday with everything that happened in prison and also i want to thank the lord for sending us more mark of. mandela's eightieth birthday was special in more ways than one of his daughters got a second mother and grandson michel five years after his divorce from winnie nelson mandela married a third time this is a very mature relationship. very much but still for the beneath and that in this is if i had with it with someone her first husband mozambique's president some more of michelle died in one thousand nine hundred six i would never question his love for winnie he never questions my nephew somewhat but we are friends. it's not easy. to talk about tracking and yes if my mother. and step to say that i am happy or of head down wife and i kept. in one thousand nine hundred eight monday or bid farewell to the political stage and dedicated himself to fundraising. bill clinton's foundation was a shining example of how millions of dollars could be collected for a good cause year after year for regular. war marked. we must find a way. and me domenico life saving treatment after you know. in one minute. there are many problems in this land of extremes the lights go out ever more frequently as the mismanaged power grid threatens to collapse. yet mandela's country is also a great place to celebrate royalty archbishops and presidents sway to the rhythms of africa. but the model of art business and the personality cult are getting out of hand the . playing likelihood. like. a play on monday by a colorful cash cow in the coin shop. this is one of the world's greatest icons of all time and there he sits they can hardly walk anymore and he has to be photographed with some. stupid little celebrity from somewhere else i am very happy. for me until now. and i hope. manderson flushing cans and have a. relief like this said that. the. object of narration. well. if he's such a brain you have to protect him as that you have to employ the same techniques that made companies do to protect their brand by these coca-cola microsoft and that's what we're doing i would mention famous brand names that have offered as huge sums of money for the foundation if you missed them and go back and think in a very subtle i distinctly done but we had to say no to the millions of dollars and it was good it was a lot. of the mondello art auctions weren't international here until two thousand and five. and then there were claims that some of the prints were fakes. there was talk of unscrupulous greedy advisers. finally it emerged that some of the monday in the pictures were by a young artist some signatures were said to be faked monday that remained silent about the whole affair. suspicion fell on monday liz trusted and longstanding lawyer. he was accused of having embezzled money from numerous private monday le trusts. a lifelong friendship turned into a court case my hope was convicted and ordered to pay a remarkably small fine. his lawyers advised him to do nothing. one dealer declined to comment or give interviews on the case. it's fairly important to show people that you see that our weaknesses. but overall this is hitting head of or human beings here only the birthday poor little summer who will mean you'll. be in the summer of two thousand and eight tens of thousands of people celebrated their euros ninetieth birthday me earlier siyabonga madiba the world says thank you nelson mandela the afghani ended nineteen a sophomore. it was time for you with us. to live. a.t.c. in your hands now all. right thank you i am happy to leave can. i. call it a net nanny or no cost to themselves and can leave for some time now. and i'm happy that. i'm standing on the over there were you are all a song sung by his grandchildren. who are the indian his jubilee year of two thousand and eight there was more good news for africa's shining light of the iraq obama was elected the first afro-american president of the united states a global figure of hope in difficult times were the e.u. the two men have in common charisma and determination to long with their pragmatism . while america cheered. stream of obama and clinton south africa's flags were at half mast a political earthquake fred luter shatter the nation mandela's political heirs gambled with the unity of the almost one hundred year old a.n.c. . the grand old man was heart broken his life's work peaceful change was under threat. and must be sad for nelson mandela to see his party that he gave his life for and that he loved so much that becoming something which is too typical of liberation movements in africa are rushing for and bust in old or you corruption. it is sad to see that happening in his life by. the one time beacons of hope on the cape have degenerated into a sink of crooked power mongers a more just society remains you know lucian president jacob zuma elected in two thousand and nine is regarded as corrupt and lacking in vision. the ageing hero of the revolution withdrew to his ability and the rolling hills of his ancestral lands. along with the rest of the nation he looked forward to another great event the twenty ten soccer world cup in south africa. i think. through countless. countries. but what was supposed to be a celebration of soccer was marred by grief zenani monday as ten year old great granddaughter was killed in a road accident on the eve of the opening. and as time went by. more grief was to come while in january twenty third teen his close friend and prominent human rights activist i mean died suddenly. in one room. to. do the. time seemed to stand still. and nelson mandela ever closer to resents esther's. least from. you. if i ever should become as timeless as the green hills madiba once wrote. i know that our land our continent the world will never again be robbed of its freedom and dignity in the way that we were. at least that makes me happy. good good . did brown really love hitler. or did she love the life he provided for her. she was the dictator's mistress. only an insignificant concert at his side pursuing her own ambitions. no weather woman got so close to him around life and death with the fury in fifteen minutes on d w. moving the front page of. his works goddess fortuna. the munster and famous. beethoven the first bomb and twenty. we make up oh but we watch as a half of them under the age of five we ought to seventy seven percent. want to shape the continent's future to. be a part of it enjoy never been youngsters as they share their stories their dreams and their challenges. the seventy seven percent of the platform for africa is charted. this is good every news coming to live from girl when zimbabwe prepares to go to the polls the campaigning is winding down as the contrary holds its first presidential election since the end of the mugabe era but will both be free and fair to bring you the 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Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Tucker Carlson Tonight 20180621 00:00:00

japan, they stopped all nuclear testing. they stopped nuclear research. they stopped rocketry, they stopped everything that you would want them to stop, and they blew up sites where they test and do the testing. and it was a great meeting. and kim jong un will turn down, and i will too, he will turn that country into a great successful country. and it let me you, let me tell you this. i gear and a half ago, nobody thought that was possible. in fact before i was elected, everyone assumed we were going to war. and remember i go into big stadiums like this that were packed. and by the way, you are very good at real estate. did you see the thousands and thousands of people outside that will never be reported by the fake news, but the thousands of people that couldn't get in. many thousands, they are all over. it would be great if the cameras could take a shot of the arena. [cheers and applause] so usually they don't do it, and usually i go home and my wife would say, i was the crowd. well when we have many thousands of people like we have tonight, you know, i was at an event three weeks ago where a person from "the new york times" said it, there was only a thousand people and the people that were there, the many thousands, protested. i didn't even have to do it. they wrote a slight correction, they were off many thousands of people. it's fake news i'm telling you. but usually they don't show the marina, they only show my face. so people would say, did you have many people here? they would say, no. it's much awesome. unemployment among women has reached the lowest level in 65 years. and most importantly of all, america is respected again. we are respected. we are fighting to protect american iron, aluminum and steel, and to protect our very incredible and very brave minor minors. but i will tell you to keep this incredible momentum. i think may be the most successful that anyone has ever had. i think we are now at the most successful level that the country has ever seen. that's how we are doing it. i heard a couple of the fakers saying, i think it's obama's economy. they would have put on more regulations, they would take back the tax cuts which were massive, they want to take them back and raise that taxes and the whole thing will go boom. so we need more republicans, we have to get out there. a vote for democrats in congress is really a vote for nancy pelosi and her radical agenda. democrats want to raise your taxes, increase your regulations, shutdown american energy, take over american health care which has been a disaster with obamacare and chip away american jobs and that is what they will do if anything bad happens to this country. and we worked too hard to get there. [cheers and applause] and the greatest phrase i think in the history of politics is in all of those red and white hats that i see out there. make america great again. and that's exactly what we are doing. make america great again. you know what our new phrase is, in two and a half years? keep america great. that's what it is because that's where we are. so the democrats want open borders. let everybody come in, let them come in from the middle east, let them come in from all over the place. we don't care. we are not going to let it happen. and by the way, today i signed an executive order. we will keep families together but the border is going to be just as tough as it has been. democrats don't care about the impact of uncontrolled migration in your community is, your schools, your hospitals. democrats put illegal immigrants before they put american citizens. what is going on? illegal immigration cost our country hundreds of billions of dollars. so you could spend that money to help bring opportunity to inner cities, our rural communities, our roads and our highways, and our schools. [chanting] >> president trump: so we have already started the wall. we have 1.6 billion, the wall has been started. san diego and lots of different places, and we say, boy it is tough. they do anything they can to obstruct and make sure it doesn't happen, but it's happening. oh, we have a single protester, they are breakable. goodbye darling. so we have a single protester. he's going home to his mom. say hello to mommy. and tomorrow, the fake news will say tomorrow, massive protest at the trump rally. massive protest. so we are going to make it great for americans, and we are going to take care of people. if we do want people coming across our border, going through our ports of entry. but we want people to come in through merit, not just through luck or happenstance. we want them to come in through merit. and we need people. because we have so many companies now, you know very well in minnesota what's happening, they just gave me a run-through of what's happening in minnesota, it's incredible. but we have so many companies moving back into our country, we need people to help but we want them to come in through the merit system, not a system where we get ms-13 and everybody else in other countes that don't run. the democrats open border policies have also allowed ms-13 to break into our country and drugs to pour into our streets, and we are stopping them. we have taken out of our country, and actually, can you believe i have to say this? we have liberated towns. like it was captured by a foreign country. we have liberated towns in long island. ms-13 gangs, we have taken them out of our country by the thousands. these countries that send them back were putting in legislation. we are not giving them any more aid. when they set people up, remember the original speech? they aending -- do you remember those words? everyone said how terrible. they are sending, and they are not sending their finest, that i can tell you. we are sending them back. and what we are doing, we give hundreds of millions of dollars of aid to country. we have a horrible deal as an example with nafta and mexico. horrible deal. they make over $100 billion on that horrible trade deal where factories were emptied and so many bad things have happened. we are going to make it part of nafta. because if you have to mark up thousands of miles through mexico. and we are going to stop that. get them out of here. go home to your mom, darling. go home. get him out of here. out. [chanting] community. we need safety. they don't bring cameras to interview the angel moms whose children were killed by criminal aliens who should have never been here in the first place, not even close. they don't want to talk to the angel moms. but as your president, i will always fight to protect americans families. i will always fight for an immigration system that defends our borders and takes care of our sovereignty as a nation. i will never sacrifice the safety and security of the american people, and i will never be as silent in the face of vicious smears and attacks and the heroic agents and officers of i.c.e. and the border patrol who saved millions, the job they do. save thousands and thousands of lives, and are so brave and so tough. and you will create a mean dumb like humane, lawful system of immigration, then you need to retire the democrats and elect republicans to finally secure our borders. because we need democrat votes. we have a majority of one in the senate. we need democrat votes in the senate and we need additional votes in the house. we will have the greatest borders, the greatest walls. we have already started, but it's a lot tougher than it needs to be. we need republicans to get out and put republicans in, in case you don't know in the senate, we need unfortunately 60 votes. we have 51 votes. we need democrats and they will do anything to obstruct, anything to make it as uncomfortable as possible because they think it's good politics. i actually think it's bad politics but we will see see yu very soon. we are building it, we are building the wall. that wall is happening. under the previous administration, america's rich natural resources, of which your state has a lot, are putting under lock and key including thousands of acres in superior national forest. you know what that is, right? tonight i'm proudly announcing that we will soon be taking the first steps to rescind the federal withdrawal in the superior national forest and restore mineral exploration for our amazing people and workers and the people of minnesota. one of the great natural reserves of the world. and we will do it carefully. if it doesn't pass muster, we won't do it our all, but it will happen. we've already taken it as you know a long way down the road, and it will make it from an environmental standpoint. as a result of our massive tax cuts, millions of americans are receiving much bigger paychecks. much bigger. we have a eliminated record numbers of job killing regulations. by the way, a few days ago, it was 500 days. now it's like, 511. in the last few days we have cut more regulations than any president in the history of our country whether it's for years, eight years, or in one year. in one case, 16 years. we have cut more regulations and 500 days than any president. even our 16 year president and trying to do that from before the days of ronald reagan, we couldn't get it done. we repealed the core of obamacare, the individual mandate is gone. so unpopular. let me tell you, we just repealed it. you don't have to pay anymore. so big. so big. and we would have repealed and replaced obamacare, although we have a long way toward going don't like doing that anyway. we had a gentleman late into the morning hours, that was not a good thing he did for our people or our country, whether democrat or republican. everyone said it, we have his boat, we have everyone's vote. we were going in for a routine repeal and replace, and he went thumbs down. not nice. we are bringing back our jobs from other countries. we are bringing back our companies from other countries. chrysler is coming back. chrysler just announced, they are coming back. many, many companies are coming back to our country. they know where the action is and as far as that's concerned with other countries, we want fair and reciprocal trade. remember the word reciprocal. every country on earth, our friends and our enemies. and i hate to see it but our friends to have bigger and better job then our enemies. but those days are over. but even before we finished off with the trade deals, and, we are like the piggy bank. let's go get some more. if you look at the european union, they put up barriers so that we can't sell our farm products and yet they sell mercedes, and bmw, and the cars come in by the millions. we hardly tax them at all. they don't take our cars and if they do, the tax is massive. so they are basically saying, we are going to sell you millions of cars and by the way, you are not going to sell us any. it's not going to work that way anymore. we will not be taken advantage of anymore. we are a great country and we will be an even greater country. hopefully greater than we have ever been before. we have such potential. we just secured a record $700 billion in funding to rebuild our military, which was in very sad shape. [cheers and applause] and we have approval for next year, $716 billion. we are ordering new planes, we make the best in the world. we are ordering new ships and at new military equipment and we even gave our great warriors a raise. we gave them a raise. for the veterans, we passed the largest va reforms in half a century. a landmark va accountability law. you know what that is? you couldn't fire anybody that worked in the va. they were sadistic in some cases, they were lazy. they accountability, you could forget it. so we passed a bill that they have been trying to pass for almost 40 years. it's called, va accountability. now you bring the person into the office and you say, jim, i'm sorry to tell you, you are fired. get out of here. [cheers and applause] even more important, and i didn't think i would be saying this so soon because i would campaign on this, but i used to go out during the campaign. and you know, because i was in minnesota a lot but obviously one more trip, iai. that won't happen again. but one that was really important to me, i always wondered why doctors don't take care of our great vets. we just passed veterans choice administration. that gives our veterans the care they deserve, the care they earn. so our veterans were waiting in line for nine days, for 12 days, for three weeks. someone online with a minor problem and they ended up having a terminal disease. now i said during the campaign, before i knew too much about it, but there is a lot of common sense of life. i say, instead of one of our great veterans waiting for two or three or four or five weeks, why don't we let him go see a doctor and pay the bill? and that's what we are doing. that's veterans choice. and, i went to people and i thought, i'm such a genius. i thought it was like the greatest idea but i went to the vet groups and said, we've been trying to get that passed for 30 years. i didn't know that. but what i did know is i knew how to get it passed, and we got it passed. two weeks ago. by the way, we passed the other one called a right to try. you know what right to try is? right to try is, these are people that are terminally ill. it's sad and they travel all over the world if they have the money. if they don't, they don't know what to do. if they have drugs that have been approved yet but is showing tremendous promise, it didn't matter. it didn't matter how sick you re, where you were, you couldn't get it. the reason was, they didn't want to do anything that was going to hurt you. you aren't going to be around for five weeks. in five weeks, i kept saying, why can't we do something if people had the money they would travel to africa or asia or europe, trying to find the cure. it was called hope. they wanted hope and they couldn't get it. i said, it's ridiculous. i got involved, and this is also like veterans choice. for many years people have tried to ask. and kevin mccarthy was a great help. so your congressman was a great help. and we got right to try passed, and four weeks ago i signed final legislation. and we are very proud. many people are going to be saved. he would think it would be easy, but it wasn't. between the insurance companies and the and health care companies and the pharmaceutical companies, it was incredible. but we did that and now we are bringing down the prices for prescription drugs. way down. so we have made this incredible progress together with your help, with the help of the millions and billions of people that -- while some polls got a right but not all polls got it right. people are saying, this could be a big problem as the democrats. they were not liking what they were seeing. they were seen so many people. it was one of the most incredible evenings. at was the movement, the likes of which the country has never seen before. we talk about the forgotten men and women. they are the smartest people, they work the hardest and they pay taxes. they do all of the things and yet, they were the forgotten people. believe me, our people were the smartest and hardest working, smarter than everybody. that little thing that i was talking about today, do you ever notice they always call the other side of the elite? why are they elite? i have a much better apartment than they do. i'm smarter than they are. i am richer they are. i became president and they didn't. and i'm representing the greatest, smartest, most loyal and best people on earth. the deplorable's. you know, i was watching when cricket hillery made -- and by the way. excuse me, have you been seeing and watching what's going on with the inspector general's report, what a scam this whole thing is? how guilty is she? so the phony witch hunt. but you look at the corruption. did you ever see anything like it? this is why they are building up immigration so you can't see what's going on in congress. they don't want to show what's happening in congress with this whole scam has been revealed. so they want to say in immigration where obama had bigger problems than anybody, where bush had problems, they wanted to stay on immigration because they didn't want to go into the halls of congress which is totally revealed by the russian scam that's going on. what a group. i tell you something, we want to get along with russia. but russia is looking out and saying, i wish between our military and our oil, she wanted to have windmills. we want to compete with all the things that we have done. all the things we have done, including sanctions. so many things, they are looking back and saying, you know, i wish crooked hillary won that election. it would have been much better for russia. so what we want to do is we want to elect more republicans so that we can deliver on all of the things i'm talking about. and i will be honest with you, we will deliver anyway. we are going to lift millions of americans from welfare to work, from dependence to independence and from poverty to prosperity. we are going to lift them. one of the greatest things about all the jobs we have created, to be is the greatest. people now don't get stuck in one job and hate getting up in the morning. they have many, many options. they can go out, wages are rising and they can cut something that i have always said. when i make speeches on how to be successful, i always say the first thing, you have to love i it. these people now that didn't have any options, they hang onto that job that they heated. in it for the first time in 20 years, wages are rising. [applause] we are going to build new airports, and railways and highways and waterways all across this magnificent land. we have spent, because of horrible decision-making, $7 trillion in the middle east. think about that. 7 trillion. and if we want to fix a window, it's a big deal. it's all coming back. remember during the debates we talk about growth. no one has ever seen growth like we are having right now. when i go around and meet foreign leaders, they all congratulate me. mr. president, congratulations on the growth of the united states. congratulations. every one of them. first thing they say. [chanting] by the way, is there anything more fun than a trump rally? and we break every attendance record every single time, just about. we are going to put new steel into the backbone of our country, and we are going to make that steel right here in the united states. we are going to breathe new hope into our communities and our workers are already so proud again we will do all with american hands, an american heart and american pride in everything we do, we will stand up for our citizens. we will fight for our country and we will stand up for america. we will stand up for the great state of minnesota. and you are seeing that. you're a great state was pioneered by men and women who braved the wilderness and the winters to build a better life for themselves and for their incredible families. they were really tough and released smart and strong. they didn't have a lot of money. they didn't have a lot of luxury, but they had to grit. and they had faith. they had courage and they had each other. right? they were minors and ministers and fishermen and farmers and shipbuilders and shopkeepers. but they all had one thing in common. they loved their families, they loved their country, and they loved their god. [cheers and applause] together, we are renewing the miracle of the great american midwest. do you remember, not so long ago we were producing those cars and we are producing all of this stuff, and since then so many companies went to mexico and other places. as i said before they are coming back and coming back faster than anybody would ever believe. we are standing on the shoulders of the great american patriots who put down the railroads, filled up the highways and dug out the most amazing panama canal, losing thousands of lives and doing it. they crossed the oceans, tracked the deserts, scaled the mountains and created the most incredible republic the world has ever seen. you know what? our republic today is powder and greater than it ever was before. our beautiful ancestors won two world wars, defeated communism and fascism and put a man on the face of the moon. and i think you saw the other day, we are reopening nasa. we are going to be going to space. so we have the army, the navy, the air force, the marines, the coast guard. but we have the air force, now we are going to have the space for us. because we need it. we needed, as long as we are proud of who we are and what we are fighting for, we will never, ever failed. there is no place like our place. there is no place. with your help and with your voice and with your vote, the republicans will win and keep on winning. we will keep on winning. and pete is a great guy. you have to give him a victory, great guy. you've got to get him a victory. we will achieve victory for our magnificent country and our magnificent land. the land of that we love. because we are americans and are hearts bleed red, white and blu blue. [cheers and applause] we will never give in. we will never give up. and we will never, ever, stop fighting for our country or for our flag or for our freedom. we are one people, one family and one glorious nation under god. together, we will make america wealthy again. we will make america strong again. we will make america safe again. and we will me america great again. thank you. thank you minnesota! thank you minnesota. ♪ >> president donald trump addressing a rally of supporters in duluth, minnesota, hitting a number of topics, , and some you would expect and some you wouldn't. taking the idea of elites and one aside which i thought was amusing. president trump's executive order also a topic of conversation today was signed it, intended to stop the separation of parents and children of the border. that came up. lots of news tonight. our friend tammy bruce was watching it and she brings us reaction. >> incredible crowded. they had to change the venue because so many people were there. clearly the crowd love the speech. but i found interesting is that he has always been good at these rallies but at this particular one you could tell that he really understands that crowded. he likes them, when he speaks about what they represent, he understands it in his heart. it is a real indication of his own growth as a man and it certainly as president, and he likes the american people. that is clear. i think that informs the choices that he makes. i met him for the first time last night at an event in washington, and that same kind of generosity, even some of his opponents admit, a term is there. what i noticed was with all the ugliness that we have seen come at him and at the first lady and others, he enjoyed the work. we saw the first lady with the king and queen of spain yesterday as well and she is clearly in her element. so you have two people who care about the country. i was also surprised, tucker, this crowd loves the space for us idea. toward the end of the agenda they were chanting space for us. and really, it's the 21st century, why not? i'm cleared with it and i can see the collection with his own basic theory and his commitment to the country and issue on the border, with the family separation issues and the actions he is taken. compare that to the left which i think is attacking him, and that is a big deal but it's also been to distract the incredible accomplishment with north korea and at the economy, which is still on fire. it's a remarkable turn of events and do you notice that those are the things also that the media is just choosing not to speak about. this issue, which has been an issue through obama's two terms is suddenly upsetting liberals all at once. and i think it's pretty obvious that it is contrived. >> tucker: i hate to always ask you to play the role of the shrink. but since you have spent many years on the left and i think you are insightful, tell me why certain people watch what we just saw? and i understand they don't agree with it or they think trump is not acting in a dignified manner, fine. but we saw what you just saw. conclude that guy is hitler. they see it on the other channe channel, how are they reaching that conclusion? >> that's because when you are a conservative, because 85% of the media really is center left. we get a variety of information from a variety of sources and we hear a bunch of different kinds of perspective. if you are only watching a single network or even a few other networks but refused to watch let's say a network like fox that has a variety of opinions, all you will hear 24/7 is this, whether it was scarborough or someone like peter fonda who went unhinged on twitter, threatening the first lady and wanting barron to be kidnapped. the misogyny has been extraordinary. it is a constant ring, and then you begin to believe that everybody thinks this. and you get effectively conditioned. >> tucker: and its huge consequences for this country which will discuss after the break. tammy, great to have you tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: we will be right back. the super fast galaxy s9. available now. i thought i was managing my moderate to severe crohn's disease. then i realized something was missing... me. my symptoms were keeping me from being there. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; 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a former tiny baby seal diver whose ass supply failed a fleet of ambulances transported the rescued boys from the cave entrance to a hospital in the nearby city of chiang rai. for the families it had been an agonizing wait eighteen days hoping against hope that their loved ones would be brought out alive. i want to thank everyone who took part in the government and all the officials the police the soldiers and the seals both from thailand and abroad and. joy and relief on all sides that for the football team known as the wild boars their harrowing underground ordeal is finally over. and. standing by for us at that hospital where the boys have been whisked off to good evening to you know we know that the parents of all of the boys had agreed to no reunion until everyone had been rescued that has happened now have the a little bit with low body temperature but in general they're in good spirits they have been asking already for their favorite dishes and it seems that in general they are really in a good mood i mean that is good to hear it is good news but we can't talk about a total happy ending here we have to remember that. navy seal wast his wife in this operation. and this was a very international operation wasn't it i mean he was involved. yeah exactly well i mean many people here also talk about this navy diver that you know didn't make it that was that the diet during this rescue mission a little bit earlier we also saw some people here they had his picture in his hand and yes this was really an international at task force basically that was going on here already from the beginning of the thai government force saying we can do this on our own we need international have so they were asking for help for volunteers for professional divers so this was really a mission from the navy seals here in thailand with divers for example from denmark from the united kingdom and because of that there's what many are saying we have had this really successful operation happening today and also yesterday and then we've heard tonight been see for has been by did the bore used to come to the world cup final in moscow i mean after all these boys are part of a football team but will they be able to make it better i mean is that realistic. no i don't think this is realistic because also what we heard from the doctors is that they want the boys to stay about five to seven days here in hospital i mean we have to remember i mean they were four days in this cave without food with also very limited access to water so they really want to make sure that the boys are in good conditions before leaving at the hospital we don't know maybe they maybe some of them were not that's hired maybe the ones that were rescued already yesterday so we have not gotten any information maybe they were watching the soccer game here on televisions and the hospital they are all here in the eighth floor in this hospital behind me all right our very own been ok there outside that hospital in northern thailand where those boys and that soccer coach are being treated tonight dana thank you very much. well tomorrow in brussels twenty nine heads of state and government will convene for the nato summit but the spotlight will be on two of those leaders donald trump and on the american. teri schultz reports the u.s. president and the german chancellor seems to be on a collision course i'm going to tell nato you got to see us paying your bills you donald trump has relentlessly attacked to nato allies and how much they spend on defense it is toward un-american u.s. president has directed most of his honor the german chancellor was again in his sights at a recent rally and i said you know. i can't guarantee. so we're protecting and it means a lot more to you they're protecting us. how much for tech should we get by protecting you that guarantee of mutual defense is the bedrock of the nato alliance trump has hinted he might not honor the so-called article five principle for those countries that don't spend two percent of their g.d.p. on their militaries that new threat coming amid reports he's considering pulling out some of the thirty five thousand u.s. soldiers stationed in germany well they are absolutely right be nervous i think sophia bet a fellow with the london based center for european reform says trump's attacks on medical doctors and damage her being strengthened nato chief nemesis the. relationship between d.c. and berlin being weakened. the way that president trump singles out potentially the by the europeans and all of that is good for putin americal is frustrated by her inability to forge any connection with trump despite her skill in managing difficult relationships. with the u.s. leaders bombastic rhetoric may have made allies reach for their wallets quicker first but it's becoming counterproductive says jeff ruthy of the center for strategic and international studies germans don't want to be seen as compliant with trump he explains and americans may be turning against germany. certainly americans see the united states engaged globally they want to know that our allies stand with us and when they hear the president making accusations in particular toward germany that it's not pulling its share of the weight as he puts it i think that has an effect over time many allies spend less on defense than germany but this keep the trump tirades this is also an opportunity for european leaders to show solidarity. you know the fact that the president is focusing on singling her. how does that everyone can just in the back and tears and that her write it out but with many of their own records of underspending in the spotlight european leaders are likely to keep their heads down and let marigold bear the brunt of trump on her own. well i'm joined tonight by douglas lute he serves u.s. ambassador to nato from two thousand and thirteen until last year he is also a retired u.s. army lieutenant general ambassador welcome to the day is good to have you on the program a question for you will donald trump arrive at the summit in brussels tomorrow as nato is most powerful member or as nato is most formidable threat well i think it's important first of all that realize that as president makes his way to brussels on air force one right now actually that he reflect on the value of nato for america you know nato still enjoys something like seventy percent approval among the american nation among adults poles and it's important to understand why america created nato why america's belongs to nato why america leads nato and it's fundamentally not a question of generosity to our european allies it's a fundamental american national interest to be the strong leader of a coherent alliance so this is very much in our own interest and i hope as president trump makes his way to brussels he reflects on that and that that's the attitude he takes into the summit where better what about the trump aiming at germany and chancellor merkel in particular he's even threatened a rethink of stationing u.s. troops in germany that's the largest u.s. presence that there is in europe i mean is he acting there in the interest of the u.s. or is he acting more to try and punish america who is german. well i won't speak to the president's motives but the facts here are very telling obviously germany has among the other than us allies the largest economy in the most vibrant economy running a budget surplus germany is a natural leader within the alliance and of course history reflects this germany led in the nato mission in the balkans germany leads to this day as one of the key nations in the fight in afghanistan if it leads in terms of nato's a newly placed forward presence in the northeast corner of the alliance with the german battalion in lithuania so time and again in the history of the alliance the germans have led and i think the president is right to turn to germany and expect a leadership role which germany ascribes to itself of the reality here is that germans the german nation today only commits about one point two percent of its economy of its gross domestic product to defense there's a program led by chancellor merkel to to improve on that percentage and that process is underway we should credit germany with turning the corner stopping defense cuts and beginning increases but it's really true that i'm think americans appreciate that while germans germany is on a path to doing more more is still expected yes you did make a good point there has affected change we are seeing other nato members increase their defense spending yet the message that comes from the white house remains negative and the message is not good enough when do you think that nato allies will begin hedging their bets with a u.s. president that they just can no longer trust and rely on. but first let me let me go back to your assertion that it's president trump that's affected this change i mean first of all the the head of state and government pledge to begin to move toward to stop the cuts in defense spending which go back twenty years and begin to increase towards two percent over a period of ten years began in two thousand and fourteen and i don't credit for isn't bush president obama or president trump with the incentive of among across the alliance to increase defense spending i actually give that credit to vladimir putin because it was in twenty fourteen that the alliance in reaction to russian aggression in ukraine actually took this step to increase defense spending so if anyone is responsible for providing the incentive it's putin himself it's interesting you say that ambassador because the defense minister here in germany she has said herself that donald trump was really the catalyst for nato or for germany spending more on its defense but you bring up the reputed and where is he in all of this what we're seeing in nato isn't trump doing exactly what mr putin would like to see and that is this gradual weakening of the alliance. well look there are two basic forms of u.s. leadership for nato one form the sort of the classic form is leadership that provides unity and coheres the alliance solidifies the alliance as one that's the kind of american leadership that that we've seen in the alliance over nearly seventy years now the alternative form the contrasting form of leadership there's a leadership that does that divides the alliance seeks leverage among allies separates out and distinguishes differentiates among allies and actually leads to divisions so i'm hopeful that when president trump arrives in brussels he'll take the first form he'll take a form of leadership that coheres the alliance and actually if he does that help place themself in the strongest possible position when a few days later after brussels he meets with latimer putin. this deludes you know you were ambassador to nato what should european leaders be thinking with trump in brussels venting at them and then he heads to helsinki for a one on one with whether mir putin's. well first of all i think european leaders need to demonstrate some strategic patience here remembering things remember in facts like seventy percent of the american people are supportive of nato remembering that the american congress both houses both the house of representatives in the senate are firmly behind nato and that the seventy year history of coherence in the alliance will pay good dividends for us i wouldn't get overly anxious about one summit or one president's rhetoric but i do think nato allies as well have to take serious their responsibility to step up and pull their weight that part of the trump message is shared widely across america. there are worries ambassador that the u.s. president could meet with mr putin and agreed to suspend native military exercises as he did with south korea are you worried that he'll do this. i'm hopeful that when the president meets with president putin on the sixteenth of july just several days after brussels that he'll take advantage of two strengths going into that meeting first of all the strength that he will have just consulted with his twenty eight nato allies so tomorrow night at a dinner in brussels the topic is nato russia relations so when the president meets putin he will have heard already from his twenty eight allies that's very important that he consulted with nato in advance of meeting with vladimir putin then the second advantage that i hope president obama sorry president trump will take to to helsinki where he meets with putin is the advantage of alliance unity and this again goes back to my point about american leadership and the alliance leadership that leads to solidarity and unity and mr lute you don't like a good ambassador a man of reason and measured thought we can only hope that the u.s. president has some of that on offer at the nato summit tomorrow and thursday former u.s. ambassador to nato that was on the show tonight ambassador thank you. but we know now one of the two teams that will vie for the world cup title lead to this week france has sealed it spot at the finals after defeating belgian jonathan crane is here for b.w. sports to walk into the league games or how did how did the french do when it was solid if unspectacular from what they needed to do it wasn't the high scoring open day that some people were expecting but it was an absorbing contest nonetheless i think france obviously sat back happy to counter-attack them in a match where the french defense rain suit it was perhaps freezing that it was a defender who made the difference let's take a look at the highlights. it wasn't until the twenty second minute it's k.g. semifinal sprang to life belgium's toby and a viral tonight on the turn a stunning say from hugo to reese fronts attack next kilian impact pay feeding benjamin provide in the thirty eight minutes a vital stop from tivo called twa this time the breakthrough arrived early in the second tough front see several n.t.t. rose highest and not home and strong reasons corner in the fifty first minute the birthing call to walk a do about that one the bronx turned on the magic to produce one of the game slick his moves shortly after a lucky escape from belgium the red devils three men forward in the dying moments but left blur held firm under pressure. to illyria at the final whistle the first world cup final appearance for france in twelve years croatia england line wait a heart breaking into the tournament for belgium. the villa from us the beasts. the only movie was in the stadium for the game let's hear what he had to say after the match ended. so there we have it france will contest the world cup final just two years after they lost the final at the european championship they haven't played the sparkling it's talking football that we would perhaps expect from that same with so much attacking talent but they did provide a defensive against belgium and they showed once again that they simply know how to win games just as they did against uruguay in the previous round to belgium it's another disappointment the country is still waiting for its first ever world cup final this time it really did feel different with the likes of debris and playing some brilliant football at times but the white. now all that remains to be seen is who will join france in sunday's final. no that was all in all he was talking about a defensive masterclass from france media how impressed were you by the french performance well i think they were monsters of game management once they works out how because you never quite know i'm sure about a mountain as they worked out was going to be on the way they were going to sit back and come about with them on the counter-attack and then they just didn't really give them any space to play all those flat. kevin to bring in they were completely shots out the game they didn't really get a sniff in the second half off the front to take the lead or he said defensive monster cross. man of the match as well the goal scorer he played his part and then for us to criticize it they've got all these attacking players and they maybe utilize them in the best way but they won't really care about that they are through to the world cup final. i feel so much pride. like we worked a lot for this when we did it together like you know i scored the goal but the whole team played well. we did what we had to do to get to the final and i'm very proud of evelyn. she fielded people living in full chile what i was the difference is just a double situation playing. the game was as you could imagine fighting cold but it's hard. and he was going to be decided into maybe the one that he could find the final digs in the balls or we could get a little bit of luck in front of goal to. well jonathan when you think i mean do france look like they are going to win the whole thing and i think whoever they play now in sunday's final whether it's. definitely not matches favorites they've got progressively better in this tournament they labored through the group phase to some extent they just did what ladies do to get straight and they had an impressive victory over. the last sixteen of the day and nichols finals and today now that you see the final that's what it means to the french. in paris sort of racing off to. reminiscence of the scenes we saw in paris in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight that was of course the last time fronts won the world cup so i think given what they've seen today given what they've seen through the tournament safe i will be confident that they will be able to do just that yeah. you know they came so close to reaching their first finals so close but they didn't do it so close yet so far a lot of people talking about the golden generation. i came into. i don't think the golden generation are completely through yet some of the players may be reaching the twilight christer they still probably 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does iran truly want peace. the countries of homes out of their towns to isolate. iran from theocracy to the core. on g.w. . welcome to a special edition of arts twenty one. artists from africa are setting the agenda for a continent on the move this is important for africa to. use africa through music through a new generation of africans were more interested in the future of this gun lobby is. nigeria was only. the first leg of our african journey takes us by bus from lagos in nigeria to the car in senegal it's the alter local youngsters about art by john from sydney and specializes in what's made with electric paint it gives up signals when it's touch. i have no idea where we are right now but that's not important you just have to set up an environment where you can be creative i've always dreamt of working with african artists in africa and what gives me a unique opportunity to get to know my own continent. in ghana the bus passengers mingle with local artists and meet verbena. in a transgender performance he transcends boundaries as a veiled woman documenting the process all the while i deal with the bodies and deal with that integration dorsets where migration aswell. just but it's troubling for white culture it's all about country and also crossing. the species from the front before but i'm going to go through a very strong idea of the baskets increasingly cantankerous much of the day is spent with repairs including a whole new engine on top of that crossing borders in west africa involves waiting on an epic scale no baksheesh no entry artistry at both turns the experience into an emotional performance. everyone gets what he wants from you. because you want to go. in there we're not allowed to go on until you give them something. whatever you have is what you have to give you cannot give what you don't. so you give you give you give. you have nothing to give anymore sort of to yourself. it's really old weeks and many adversities later they reach the car where the artists take up residence with a german painter here they can turn the impressions they collected on their journey into work or not. for the culture instable. here in. a flying tribute to the heroes of the resistance against the german colonial rulers but within a call my own memory our battle mysteries so it's very important that of course this isn't multiplied and that we're all able to give our own stories. to juvie tells one of the stories of female phoenix and of the concrete of the twenty eight team doctor but we wanted to tackle the wall africa rising with story of the call to ride it as africans who have to choose in which. emoji material most employees neon mirrors and surveillance cameras to shift viewers into the focus to digitally monitored and at the same time reveal it to speak mean artist personifies the new powers african art is taking up a new technology wise on the continent is a leap frog a lot of growth of the art of the show here a branch or a new generation of africans who are more interested on the future in the past and i guess the altar of a percussionist is freedom to be oneself within an african context without having to demonstrate the forms of her to duck up venue so all over the city one of the off locations is a city called gucci institute the artist bus is given a resoundingly welcome and i feel that it was africa highly concentrated into three or four weeks they were everywhere with been over thousands of kilometers with left the mark of our art something was left everywhere. in the company all dollars travel photos have been turned into silk screen collages. re-add bio has set up his . installation in the box. by john performs on interactive canvases. glimpses into a treasure trove of experiences with the most. and all the obstacles that came on the way. topics: Booming Lagos; Art on the road; Fatoumata Diawara; Africa in Germany; Art vs. colonialism several african and european countries so she finds the time afro german a bit limited. our budget is at the front there are people who call themselves after a pianist and that place is europe and africa at a level that i see is far more correct then there are after opponents and that's that's a concept that designates people of the african diaspora who feel at home in the various major cities of the world it means people who are at home in new york or in lagos and that reflects a certain reality this she gets on a day at. the festival itself is a reflection of that reality. or a comes from ivory coast twenty years ago she fled to marsay to escape the civil war in her country she want to grammy in two thousand and nine and has been in demand internationally ever since. her performance can be described as african tradition meets urban cool. her daughter is with her on this tour for her there's no question about combining kids and a career. to get here up the african women carry this image of the pole fals warrior inside them up again it's all business strong women it's all for that they do many things at once they welcome raise their children at the same time . but not just african women all women of european women have this strength as. well i want to show the strength that women have. aside from the show's a new zick contacts are also important. that. afro german presenter beric reflects on her experiences. the question of her own roots long preoccupied her. daughter on time was with wants to carry on molly's rich musical heritage her songs are smooth blend of folk a modern sounds and they're taking the music world by storm they're also political i couldn't you release centro now for me i have a something to say. i have a something. when i say. they were present africa a new generation i was presenting african movie. i represent are going to child. that be tearing me deals with migrating and losing a home and losing loved ones a fate suffered by many africans. then being. thought to herself left mali as a young woman to escape an arranged marriage the movie molly blues follows her judie back it's a touching documentary showing how music can lend a voice to freedom. in her home village to broke a taboo by singing about female genital mutilation. to . me i'm trying to to to fight the for the positive side to change the montel u.-t. of my generation because every single generation needs to somebody to any song to take a part of things we have to to be able to talk about a lost tourist. molly is wracked by social tensions corruption and terrorism but that often obscures it's deep rooted cultural traditions. people don't know who knows africa is only. the nikkei art gallery houses thousands of works its a treasury of contemporary nigerian art madame nikkei as the founder is known is a landmark of the lagos art scene she opened her first gallery fifty years ago. so when they get it. is going to be hard because this is the biggest. in the whole fifty four. lego's is the city of both tremendous promise and extreme wealth and poverty exist side by side the city of twenty million is growing faster than any other urban center in africa it's plagued with corruption and mismanagement but blessed with entrepreneurial spirit and creativity those contrasts are mirrored in its art same. page you are the two ses works featured at the first nigerian pavilion at the venice be an alley she openly addresses social issues such as child marriage. here her figures are covered with pain relief pills so this this work is called the . unconscious struggle i need. the narrative or the. child bride. i know how certain cultures think. it's ok so sometimes i wonder when no one is looking no one is near them and they have to check themselves will be be inflected their actions or introspective about what they do i always wonder what they. think. so it's true grown men need to topics: Booming Lagos; Art on the road; Fatoumata Diawara; Africa in Germany; Art vs. colonialism town away from the noise and exploding rance in central asia. so much so here they love the kills off of the city is so inspiring yes fine but what you can get inspired by to kill the boy where you come to your studio in some way that is you know kind of very down for you to actually do the production of your walk. the unplanned growth of cities is one of his central themes. i was amazed by. the concentrated in the city i was same time the way. this you know probably you know you know it's so amazing so that is where this summer it's all about to actually know the way cities are not properly planned in nigeria and the kind of kind of the main kind of the one that we have that is more like. right . the uncontrolled development and chaos of the city also inspire sam abell han the painter is known for his celebration of colors with broad brush strokes the fragments his motifs to create fascinating picture puzzles. where i started the even i tried to at the same time make people feel. happy looking at somebody once told me that my paintings. able to see. they're nice things involving us you're looking at very. optimism and productivity not frustration and stagnation that seems to be the model of many contemporary artists in lagos their work is attracting more and more interest on the domestic art market. i started getting into it when i study. and look in on reading about things or not least doing while you were in the country growing up we didn't see too much of this but i don't want to comment on sunday's you coming out and if you see very young people and you think that your poor man durance problems are christian what do you want to buy just for appreciate the expression of this from appreciating the works that to start by and . does lagos have the potential to become africa's hottest art hub the growing demand in the nikkei our gallery suggests that it. is. now to the german city of frankfurt to an exhibition by william country edge that cuts to the chase and encounter with the celebrated south african artist. time doesn't heal all wounds no one knows that better than wm chen tridge his work grapples with topics like the scars of colonialism and apartheid peoples vain attempt to evade defeat and time. the refusal of time with his installation of the documentary and twenty twelve now it's at the heart of his show in frankfurt sleepy house museum and placed right in the midst of classical european sculpture. and surf off of three lives and works in the south africa and my work is very much shape. by the particular conditions in which it is made a condition of johannesburg as a very young city and how it works about being not in the arts center not in new york and not in berlin and not in london but being six thousand miles away with the question of europe's relationship to its colonial legacy is very present every day . and one of the things about showing the work i suppose like this in europe is to bring those questions into this country. to see the nineteen eighties reem temperatures work has dealt with the trauma of apartheid. it started with his early animated charcoal drawing early on he realized the system that gave him so many privileges was deeply flawed one decisive influence was his parents human rights lawyer in his early theater what can trigger tack to the apartheid system. and told me. not so good that by look at that none of us does nobody. man they're going. to bomb one job and then no bomb bomb aadhaar. he also went on to stage a prince such as iran bags watching which addressed the coming o'neill conflict during the first world war. optimistic to think of art changing the world or to think that it sets the agenda for political discussions occasionally at that but much more important to the artworks by making connections both between people to people look at the same work and suddenly understand the existence of other people by the common viewing of the view of the piece of art as a social activity that is not only you who seem to have but other people are also seeing and by the confirmation. it gives to us of who we are. can tricia's family had fled anti semitic programs in europe and she felt the in congruity of growing up as a privileged white in south africa. the christian effects of european colonialism and also with the aim in the miniature black box on display in the lead big house he addresses the first genocide of the twentieth century the massacre of the herrero people by the germans in one thousand know for at that time the. fun leave the family who lived here may have sat in their parlor and read about it in the news paper. have been both the. the most admirable and strongest human traits that have gone together with and being committed to not the same but in the questions of everest of greed of. acquisition. kindred says drawing is equivalent to thinking for him many of his works are born as charcoal drawings even his films which he embarks on without storyboards no wonder then that a coffee pot follows in the footsteps of french animation pioneers josh mill years later the movie and he himself appears as trotsky in ocean to mental machine and installation first shown in istanbul in. one team a chief in the work is the megaphone signifying the power of propaganda it's all the more relevant at a time when william can treat views europe with great concern and. need. income different you say from outside of you that europe as a totality has become the fortress where you have a sense for hundreds of years europe made with wealth from the colonies and now it's suddenly decides to close all the gates we've got the money and they're not with anybody else try to get in me anything back and people think it's an act of generosity to allow some few migrants into the country rather than understanding it's a simple act of justice. we encounter it reminds europe that what it might consider foreign is actually an important part of its own history. that's it for this edition of the arts twenty one. celebrating the art 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Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Fox And Friends First 20180730 08:00:00

A precursor to Fox News's morning show, featuring the news and first looks at the other stories of the day. preferable to all-out standout with democrats. >> this president is a bully and he will try to intimidate all of us. he's not going to shut down anything. we are not going to be intimidated by bluffing or bullying. >> some republicans voice reluctance of idea of shutdown before the midterms. >> i think we are going to make sure we keep the government open but we are going to get better policies on immigration. the president i think wantstous have policies that work for america and work for americans. >> one major consideration is if and when might change consider kavanaugh and republicans want to confirm them around deadline. the president has meeting with world leaders, perhaps we will learn more about pool sprays behind thinking but this is certainly a big development that we are going the talk about this week. >> interesting to see how everything is connected together, kavanaugh, border wall w the funding, it'll be a while in next in the couple of months. jillian: democrats take aim at the booming economy. >> tommy laren says democrats hate seeing -- >> they are using talking points which they have no knowledge of the economy and what's happening. if you watch clips, she has no idea what she's talking about, they have the talking points, we want to help the poor, we want everybody to pay fair share, if you look at the numbers, the very people they want to support or bring up are being held to president trump and they hate to see this president win and hate fires burning in california. another firefighter in california battling fire in yosetimete national park. >> i've had a few -- >> more than 3300 firefighters are batting the carr firefighters, 17 wild fires, we are hearing reports of volunteers using trucks and trailers to rescue livestock and help those families who are fleeing their homes, todd, jillian. >> just a horrible time right there in california. jillian: thank you. we are learning new information about discovery, returned after jog and sent him a snapchat before vanishing on july 18th, boyfriend alerting authorities when she did not show up for work the next day. this comes as $2,000 reward is being offered after an iowa business added additional a thousand dollars to crime stoppers award, investigators searching a pig farms along with other properties nearby hope to go find her alive. >> massive computer glitch grounded them for a time, 900 flights nationwide were delayed but it's unclear if all of them were due to 40-minute outage. they weren't alone, separate outdrainage sky west, flights for american, delta, united and alaska now back to normal. jillian: president trump set to welcome the italian prime minister at the white house today, one of the strongest supporters in western leader. president trump raising his italian. >> robert wilkie will be sworn in as veterans affairs, effort to start fixing long hit wait times and improving patient care hospitals nationwide. jillian: fox news alert, dozens of terrorists about to be released from prison and the government's plan keep an eye on them. the growing security concerns this morning. >> one quarter of growth does not transform. it's good to see but will it last? >> exactly. >> president trump will take a lot of credit for the good numbers, don't believe him. >> gdp tops 4% but the med says 00% focused on slamming president trump's economic accomplishments. the economist peter says the left is ignoring reality. comes next to prove it. my name is jeff sheldon, shipstation. the number one ch of online sellers. go to shipstation.com/tv and get two months free. >> president trump takes a victory lap on the economy celebrating massive gdp report and record low unemployment rates for african american and hispanic workers. jillian: the left is raining on the president's parade, here with his response that former u.s. international trade commission chief economist and professor of international business at the university of maryland peter mauricie, thank you for joining thus morning. what do you say, is the president's lap well deserved? >> absolutely. what the left is denying the entire presidency growth averaged 40 to 45% better than obama presidency. both of them had 4% quarters, i don't deny that about mr. obama. what matters with baseball, what's your batting average across the season, what's the batting average across the years, bottom line is president obama really wasn't a big leaguer, mr. trump's is about 2.08%, a heck of a lot better. >> let's put up the numbers for second quarter gdp, that's up from 2.2% in the first quarter, that said, many on the left are saying these numbers are artificially propped up by tax cuts and too inflated because of the tariffs, a lot of companies selling wears, boosting second quarter at detriment to third and forty quarter, how do you respond to that? >> it will come 3, critics are overly pessimistic. hard reality. 3% growth is pretty darn good, as for tariffs, chinese are clamping down on exports through administrative means in anticipation of what president trump might do i mean, that's a bogus argument. we had expert number. that's not going to repeat, they never do but we will have other areas that do very well in third quarter, nonsense. bottom line is the left has a data problem, they gave us eight years oflet -- lethargy and now we are growing again. jillian: let's take a listen. >> we can only project a couple of years in the future but we are well on the path for several years, i don't think this is a one or two-year phenomena, we are in a period of 4 to 5%, 4 or 5 years of us taken 3% growth at least. jillian: look into your crystal ball do you see the growth as reality? >> i see it 3%, i don't see it 4 or 5. i will point out that 3% growth is dramatically different than president obama, the consequences for state and local tax revenues, municipalities, ability to finance social security are so profound with the economy growing at 3% i know it sounds small but, you know, this is like soccer, you know, it comes one goal at a time, what matters is you win 3 to 2, this is a profound difference, i'm optimistic, but mr. sneech tends to speak in hyperbole even though he seems reserved, if you read the words, he tends to make things bigger than we should. jillian: i'm justifying using how many sports andies that we would have. >> i'm a baseball fan. i'm sorry, but you know i remember willy and nicky mantle, all that stuff from new york growing up. >> we love it. >> jillian: love it and appreciate your time this morning, have a good one. >> take care. jillian: just about 18 minutes after the hour, streaming face, netflix making push for religious programming. >> carley shimkus on what's behind the idea and what viewers think of next. hi, carley. are you ready to take your wifi to the next level? then you need xfinity xfi. a more powerful way to stay connected. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it's the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. >> democrats call to abolish ice many party leaders refuse to answer direct questions about why. >> ii want to ask you about tha, what about that move? >> republicans, well, look -- >> is that a good message for the democrats, abolishing ice, i have to stop you both there, i think you had a fair chance to make argument. >> he didn't talk about ice, did he? >> no, he did not answer that question. >> that was a lot of yelling. refused to answer the questions as his party prepares for midterms. >> the former mayor of new orleans distancing himself from calls on the left to abolish ice. >> i don't think abolishing ice is a good idea, when police departments get out of the ray, you don't say get rid of police department, we reform the police department, we are a nation of immigrants and nation of laws. >> mitch who calls himself a radical centrist says he doesn't intent to make the white house run. democrats made headlines for removing four confederate monuments around new orleans last year. >> department of homeland security blasting the philadelphia mayor for ending a contract with ice after activists storm city hall. jillian: carley shimkus with fox news headlines 24/7 siriusxm 115 here with the story and the reaction, good morning, carley. carley: philadelphia has decide today use the system, real-time arrest information to ice agents including names, countries of origin and social security numbers. now democrats believe ice agents were abusing the system to investigate people living here illegally but the department of homeland security is disappointed with this move, spokeswoman katie says sanctuary city make philadelphia less safe by putting the rights of criminal aliens over the safety and security of american citizens despite the misguided action taken by philadelphia today, dhs will continue to work to remove illegal aliens and uphold public safety, this is a major win for activists who camped outside of city hall, protesting the immigration and customs enforcement agency rather but elsewhere folks on social media are less can vinceed. brian who says, that was unwise managing the next ten years will be difficult at best, kelly on twitter also calling for the government to cut off federal funding now. so big controversy happening in philadelphia. >> they just don't get how much ice protects us an sad state of affairs. carley: a little bit of both, how about this? netflix will focus programming on faith and family, the vice president of original theory said this that represents a significant percentage of population not only here in the u.s. but around the world, so it is something that we are focused on really building out of a robust family friend programming. well, some folks are suspicious, guys, let's take a look at the tweet, evelyn says why, they lost a lot of viewers after they let obama produce shows. a lot of people think it's a good idea, so maybe some more viewers on netflix over the whole thing. >> taylor swift doing taylor swift type things again? >> carley: a very sweet gesture to donate tickets who are mourning the death of police officer, many viewers remember he was shot and killed with his own gun on july 15th, mayor in massachusetts says taylor swift quietly donated, she didn't want no one to know this, fire fight ergs and police officers to her stadium. >> she does it right. carley: much needed i'm sure relief for a lot of the families who are mourning this officer. jillian: absolutely. >> time now 26 minutes after the hour, border wall battle. president trump threatening to shut down the government if congress does not fund the wall but the senate could delay a vote until after midterms, where does it all go from here? we debate next. >> i'd like to have a parade, the generals would love to do it and so would i, i think it's great for country in terms of being a cheer leader and the spirit. jillian: mark your calendars, the date for the president's parade has just been set. my father passed this truck down to me, that's the same thing i want to do with you. it's an emotional thing to watch your child grow up and especially get behind the wheel. i want to keep you know, stacking up the memories and the miles and the years. he's gonna get mine -but i'm gonna get a new one. -oh yeah when it's time for your old chevy truck to become their new chevy truck, there's truck month. get 18% of msrp cash back on all silverado 1500 crew cab lt pickups when you finance with gm financial. that's $9,000 on this silverado. plus, during truck month make no monthly payments for 90 days. >> fox news alert, police left scrambling after learning as many as 80 terrorists could be set this year in britain, the uk security minister say it is focus will be to keep close eye on them. 40% of current sentences will end by christmas but more to get parole. one of the prisoners to get released, inspired nearly 100 jihadists. jillian: little known law could keep corporations from terrorism lawsuits, casinos invoking the safety act arguing shooting that killed 58 people in las vegas was terror. law provides immunity for company to meet security, denying liability, the ruling could open the doors for others to seek protections in mass shootings with no known motive. >> republicans renewing calls for president trump to declassify court document use today spy on members on trump campaign. jillian: garrett tenney on russia investigation. >> last week the fbi released more than 400 pages of previously classified documents related to applications for surveillance called fisa warrants, most of the documents were redacted particularly section detailing why carter page was russian agent, those that were not redacted showed the steele dossier, democrat-funded opposition research was major component for justification of the warrants. democrats argue the redacted sections show there was much more evidence, house intelligence chairman devin nunes says he documents wants declassify show the fbi and the justice department acted improperly. >> the reality is that's not the case. those of us who have been providing oversight over this issue, we are quite confident once the american people see the 20 pages, at least for those that will get real reporting on this issue, they will be shocked by what's in that fisa application. >> the white house says that at least for now, president trump does not plan to get involved in this specific request to declassify documents but today devin nunes said his understanding that the white house lawyers are looking into it to see if they can declassify sooner rather than later. in washington, i'm garrett tenney, fox news. >> the trump administration cracking down on spending as congress faces september deadline to fund the government. president trump's economic larry kudlow sounding on the timeline for corporate tax rate to be paid off. >> we will be tougher and tougher on spending. i reckon it'll take us a year or 18 months to start turning that around. it's not unusual. i look at it as good investment in future prosperity and future economy. of course, we inherited a tough deficit situation. >> social media giants like facebook and twitter could soon be fined for so-called fake news, lawmakers in the uk want to hold them liable forcing them to pay fee or regulate for quote, harmful and misleading information. personal data of 87 million users data was hold by analytic. ginsburg saying senior colleague stevens stepped out when he was 90. i have about more years. jillian. jillian: the battle for border security is heating up after president trump sends this blistering warning to congress, quote, i would be willing to shut down the government if the democrats do not give us the votes for border security which includes the wall, so where does the border wall battle go from here? joining me to debate gop councilman borelli and democratic strategists rochelle, what do you make of the messaging? >> this is another attempt by the master of distraction to take attention away from the fact that he as a bromance with putin, questionable meetings at trump towers and the fact that he was covering it all up. what president tweet that is he would love to see the government shut downs, why would president want to see federal employees struggling make ends meet, put food on the table, pay bills and send kids to school, we are talking around september, around the time kids will be buying school supplies and it's unfortunate because it's him throwing a tantrum over a wall that he said méxico will pay for. jillian: in fairness, joe, i want to take your take, something the president has been fighting for, not sure if it's something bringing up right now to distract from putin. >> this isn't out of the blue and it's not the first time to threaten to shut down government over border wall. government shutdowns are used by political footballs by both parties to get name calling and not many people remember the schumer shutdown in january this year, but the reality is what voters will remember is the fact that one-third of the electorate believes that immigration reform is the most pressing problem america faces today. the fact that democrats are willing to hold congress from enacting any type of reform is going to play out pretty significantfully the midterms. jillian: rochelle, say that the government does shut down, let's play the card right now, how do you think this would affect the midterms? >> well, i think it's going to be bad for republicans, you already had congressman johnson of wisconsin come out and say he doesn't think it's a good idea, you also had the rnc chairman say that this should not and will not happen, it's just not a good idea for republicans to do this right before the midterms, i mean, if we want to talk about, you know, government shutdowns, president trump was very critical of president obama in 2013 during that shutdown in which he called obama's, obama weak and saying that he lacked leadership because of government shutdown, so i wond internal revenue if the president feels the same way now that has going to be the second government shutdown in less than two years. >> look, nobody wants government shutdown. nobody is a party of government shutdowns but when you elect a republican congress to the house, you elect to republican senate and republicans to the white house you have an expectation that they do what they say they are going to do and one of the things is to reform immigration. this is more about the republicans have been a little bit of enthusiasm gap going midterms and this is something that would really drive the base, something they committed to and something i hope they do. jillian: you don't think it would be detrimental in midterms? >> no, just the opposite, show it is base that electing a republican copying will result in republican policy. jillian: when do you guys think, rochelle, i will start with you, when we will get the border wall? >> one, i think the republicans are a little bit out of touch, they are using 20th century solution for 21st century problems. president trump has said that this entire shutdown would be in response to drugs, well, drugs are not coming-during thrown over in sacks into the united states, drug dealers are using modern technology to bring drugs into the united states, i mean n2016 you had border agents track down, try to attempt to seize a submarine carrying $194 million worth of cocaine. so these policies that they're bringing forth to me aren't realistic in response to the real problem we are facing. jillian: joe, final word. >> the majority of the drugs do come across the southern border. >> but not over the wall. >> through the southern ball. that's near here nor there. >> the issue that funding for the wall has been democratic platform from bill clinton the barack obama and it's only now because of trump that democrats do not want to see seen as compromising that they are willing to abandon their principles -- >> in all honesty, i want to respond to that. >> jillian: a couple of seconds. >> obama deported more immigrants than any president in u.s. history. jillian: we do have to leave it there, it is 38 minutes after the hour. bombshell report revealing the obama administration shell out cash to al al-qaeda, how does ts happen, our next guest says there's plenty of blame to go around. is austin, texas with name change? first let's look at weather across the country. vice president of the arizona troopers association now pleading for donations to help pay for the fallen hero's funeral. you can donate online at az troopers.org. jillian: 6 miles from eiffel tower is housing dozens of illegals, more than 300,000 illegals made up of 100 nationalities are packed in community, police clearing thousands of them who are living in tents underneath the bridge. up to 80 migrants arrive in paris every day. >> defense distributed agree to go block pennsylvania users after emergency hearing in federal court, this comes ahead of the company's formal ralout following settlement with the state department, the designs make the guns untraceable and may don't come with serial numbers. jillian: austin, texas recommending the city change its own name after finding name supported slavery, report finding stephen. austin known as father of texas viewed slavery as necessary as expansion in 1830's, the city would have to vote or name change, no serious efforts to do so just yet. >> the date is set, we know when the military will parade the streets of washington, d.c. jillian: the pump and circumstances may not be what president trump had in mind jennifer griffin explains. >> saturday november 10th, one day before visit rein's day. sparking idea to honor america's veterans. prohibits forces from taking part that maybe needed for war. the money will come from the military's operations and maintenance budget according to republican chairman of the house armed services committee. >> it says if any operational units are used, secretary mattis has to certify that it will not affect readiness. >> the pentagon's top officer has arriened u.s.-northern command based based in colorado, starting from the revolutionary war and war of 1812 till today and coincide with the 100th anniversary with tend of world war 1. it's not clear how much the parade will cost taxpayers. >> i've seen various cost estimates, 10 million and 30 million depending on the size of the parade. >> the bill tries to try to focus on men and women who have served and really tailor toward 100th anniversary of world war i but also give an opportunity to honor those veterans who never had a parade. >> the council was concerned roads would be damaged with heavy armaments rolling down pennsylvania avenue, spokes han for the u.s.-northern command say at this time we do not intend to use tanks at parade. jennifer griffin, fox news. >> 46 minutes after the hour, a father pulling off operation glass flipper for his daughter. >> oh, man, lump in your throat time. the story that will sure to bring you a tear to your eye. are you ready to take your wifi to the next level? and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it's the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. stand but not the fill his own pacts, jillian mele but to help police. jillian: fox affiliate in kansas city has more. >> here is my sign, it's called lemonade, we couldn't fit stand on there. >> maybe 8 but he's got big plans. >> we get lots of cars and lots of cars and decided to take advantage to help local police department. good thing to do for the police department because they'll stop what they are doing and come out and help people that are in serious trouble. >> i think that's great. >> we try to teach generosity to him and older brother, it's nice when a kid has their own idea and just kind of allowed to do that on their own. >> brecken has goal in mind. >> i'm just trying to see what i can do. i want over 12, over $12. >> we want people to give whatever they wanted to and not to be limited by an amount and whether it's a dime or 10-dollar bill, it doesn't matter, whatever they want to give is what we want to do. >> whatever brecken can get will be honor today receive. >> a glads of lemonade is a great way to show that we can enjoy positivity in our life. >> they do a lot of stuff to help us, they just do a lot and deserve this. >> fox 4 news. >> how cute. guess what, brecken shattered initial goal. >> twelve dollars was the goal. his stand raised over $3,000 in just hours. he wanted 12, he got 3,000. good job. jillian: love it. time for the good, bad and ugly first up the good, a father working three jobs, surprises daughter with the dress of her dreams. 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Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. plus, first, the elite still don't get it. that is the focus of tonight's "angle" ." over the weekend, the libertarian-leaning coke network hosted a rocky mountain retreatd political leaders. they use the occasion not to amplify and hear the president's policies, but to decry them. 82-year-old charles koch has taken the reins of the network. he released this video in advance of the retreat. now he claims opportunities in the global marketplace are creating anxiety and the loss of jobs at home. >> in response, we are seeing the rise in protectionists, for countries, organizations, and individuals are trying to protect themselves from these changes. they are doing whatever they can to close themselves off from the new, hold onto the past, and facilitating the outsourcing of jobs, even through really lame policies, like regulation, or through poorly negotiated trade deals. don't get me wrong. the kochs have done great work on tax reform, stuff like tea regulation, and also in the area of education. last year that, they spent $90 million in university programs, and they are committed to expanding their support for k-12 education. i have a question for you. how effective other education efforts be if americans enter a world where china dominates most major industries? including the areas of stem, science, technology, so forth, including things like artificial intelligence. we can't just look the other way while china and a lot of other countries, by the way, gained the global trading system and rack up huge trade surpluses. i.t., stem, , on her subsidies, and so forth. any fair-minded person, would have to agree with her at the white house economic advisor larry kudlow, a free trader himself, set over the weekend. >> people will say, well, trump's tariffs are damaging this, that, and the other thing. i say, don't blame president trump. he inherited a completely broken world trading system, including a wto, most particularly china, but not only china. okay? is trying to fix that. >> laura: remember the kochs a part of the job and sovereignty killing trans-pacific partnership, and then after agreement. bush, obama, and until the campaign, at least, hillary champion. the koch network, like the rest of the g.o.p. old guard, is positively furious with trump's use of tariffs to level the playing field. in fact, they announced last month that they have committed to a multimillion dollar, multiyear campaign to oppose what trump is doing on trade. i have a question, though. why would they want to lock us into these never ending trade deficits when the president's efforts so far are actually bearing fruit? we saw what happened with the e.u. last week. south korea already renegotiated their deal. and watch what happens in the next few weeks with both mexico and china. it's going to be really good. meanwhile, american workers, and even farmers, some have been caught in the cross fire of trump's tough trade battle with china. but they are standing by the president. why? well, they like that he is fighting for them even if it hurts their interest in the short term. >> i am a good american. i believe that we all have to have two toe the line. >> you are okay with bearing the brunt of these tariffs? >> am i willing to take my lumps for the benefit of the entire country? yes, i personally am. >> you are willing to weather the storm for a certain amount of time? but how long is too long? >> this cottage and recess come to the death. >> laura: oh, scottish and him. i love that. don't you want that kind of deep sense of patriotism? they want to make money obviously but they are also deeply patriotic americans and they are willing to take that hit. i think the kochs can learn a lot from those regular americans, what they said. i love it takes. trump's immigration plan, by the way, also displeases the old guard of the g.o.p., the big republican donor class. why are they so fixated on that? because they love the flood of cheap labor into our market. but trump sees the border and enforcement and the whole deal and i were southwest border very differently, and he articulated it today. >> our countries have learned through hard experience that border security is national security. they are one and the same. >> laura: arguments of national security and culture are totally lost on the billionaire set. but for most americans, these are major concerns. now the koch network is taking it a step further. they are now going so far as to financially punish of some politicians who are supportive of the president's agenda. they announced today that they will not be supporting g.o.p.'s north dakota senate candidate, kevin kramer, trying to unseat democrat heidi heitkamp. what is the koch reason for that? well, the republican candidate supported trump on both trade and immigration. at that confab i was mentioning earlier and colorado, charles koch made a big deal about "unie previously divided." what does that mean? how are these latest retaliatory efforts actually doing that? trump is the one uniting people, for all the talk of divisiveness, trump enjoys an 88% approval rating among republicans, according to "the wall street journal," nbc poll. only george w. bush in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 saw support like that. but the koch network and others talk a good game about unity, embracing change, seizing opportunities. but when the president comes along who is actually embracing a new path, something different, on behalf of the american people, let's try a new thing now, the kochs and the globalists just have their blinders on. they won't have any of it. i had to laugh when, in a future on the koch retreat, it said the following, "democrats who attacked the koch brothers in recent years, controlled that, at least in the area of trump, the billionaire industrialist, are no longer the left's number one enemy." [laughs] yeah, that's funny how that works. that is because republicans lack the leader for so many years that the kochs were the only game in town. but now, the left has a new enemy. it is trump. and they are resisting him at every turn. sadly, the kochs are too often joining in their ranks. like the bushes, the koch brothers did not support donald trump in 2016. think about that. but they have certainly reaped the benefits of trump's thriving economy. are they prepared to take their profits that they made over the last two years and donated to elizabeth warren because that will be good for their business? you think they will give them a better deal on the things they believe in, tax reform, regulation, so forth? what a pity. if the seas kochs and their well-heeled donors miss the opportunity to support the president and be a part of the america first unity that people believe in. and that is the "angle." joining us now the reaction, the "washington examiner"'s byron york. democrat and radio talk show host brett han and monica crowley come out of the london center for. great to see all of you. monica, the koch brothers have done a lot of good things, no doubt about it. but it is wild to hear them rail on about trump's use of a tool that bush used, obama used, reagan used, and is one of the classic tools of our economic negotiation throughout american history. >> yes, this is yet another example of the empire striking back against donald trump. trump ran on this premise that he was going to come in and smash the corrupt existing order, the corrupt status quo. that meant the elite ruling class on both sides of the aisle, the media, and the networks like the kochs, who are so deeply invested in the globalist agenda. he promised that he was going to smash all of that and actually represent the american worker, the american taxpayer, and americans economic interests. the reason we have donald trump, among many reasons, laura, is because he went out into the heartland and he said, you know what? icu, i hear you, and i will be your champion. now after just a year and a half and the presidency, he has delivered on this economic poli. and therefore, he represents an existential threat to the kochs, to the left, to the right, deeply invested in a cheap labor -- >> laura: they agree on the lot of the big issues. we've made that point before. chris hahn, as of the case, the enemy of my enemy is my friend? if i can go back -- byron has written about this -- if you can put a loop together about what the democrats had about the kochs of the years, now suddenly they are again for trump is doing in ontario's, and "the new york times" is saying, "oh, maybe it's time to take a second look at the koch brothers." i find that hilarious. go ahead. >> i don't have enemies, and i don't think people should have a enemies and domestic apollo disease, you have opponents -- >> laura: you know what i mean. we are having fun here. >> i know what you meant. [laughs] but on the kochs, i was listening to my good friend, monica, just now, talking about the kochs, i say they are consistent. they were never for trade barriers. they would never stand for the $15 billion bailout for the farmers in the midwest of the president is doing, something that monica would have called socialism had obama done it during his term. the kochs are consistent and they are consistent in their message. i don't trust that they will support liberals. they haven't said that they will support democrats. they said they will stay out of heidi heitkamp's race. they didn't say they would give her money. they will still spend about $400 million on the midterms to try to elect republicans and conservatives who agree with their viewpoint. they are still going to be active -- >> laura: but what we are saying, -- no one is saying they are not consistent. what we are saying is, their time has come and gone. they have a lot of dough, they done some good, philanthropy they have done. but the era of endless wars, byron, and these global trade agreements, where america really can't get satisfaction, frankly, what elizabeth warren and bernie sanders have talked about at different times, they talked about these unfair trading regimes that benefit their well-heeled people, those days are over and the republican party. there is no constituency for it, why we have an 88% approval rating for donald trump. byron? >> donald trump a candidate in 2016 really did blow up republican orthodoxy and some very, very key ways. trade was one of those ways. immigration actually was another. the kochs have had a complicated relationship with that because if you asked them last year, they were absolutely delighted with all of the deregulation that has been taking place under the president, happy with the tax cuts, too. now very unhappy with trade and with immigration. i think a lot of republicans are really going to part with them on this north dakota thing. for example, the kochs are now spending about a million dollars to support the confirmation of brett kavanaugh to the supreme court. republicans partisans would say, if you don't support republicans to the senate, there is not going to be another trump nominee to the supreme court. well -- >> laura: that's why it's important to support the challenger to heidi heitkamp. monica, there's a big talk about a potential shutdown now. you know, with a border wall. trump said i want to the omnibus spending bill again. let's watch it with the president said today about this. >> we need border security. border security includes the wall. but it includes many other things. we have to end the lottery. we have to end the chain. the chain is like a disaster. you bring one person and, you end up with 32 people. the whole thing is a ridiculous. we have to change our laws, and we do that through congress. i would certainly be willing to close it down, to get it done. >> laura: the democrats are already going insane about this. again, old guard republicans, this will blow the midterm election cycle. what are your thoughts? >> i think they are afraid that donald trump means it. and you know what? he does. this is a man who relishes everything go fight and when he says i'm willing to shut down the government unless they get real money to start is border wall, they know that he means it. so republicans and democrats i like are really afraid of this. look, of the many reasons donald trump got elected in 2016, the primary one was illegal immigration, building the wall, and all of these issues. ending chain migration, the visa lottery -- >> laura: they've done nothing! >> and he knows, in order to browse the states going into the midterms, he needs to stick by this premise and shut down the government. >> laura: chuck schumer had no problem shutting down the government when trump was putting the pressure on with the daca kids, and he wanted to give amnesty, and he was fine with shutting down the government. he tried to pass it off on trump. it wasn't trump. it was the democrats. now trump says, i'm not doing the omnibus thing. you should never have signed that other omnibus. he should have vetoed that back then and he wouldn't be in a situation now. but do you think the democrats are hoping for a shutdown? >> no. i don't think we are because we don't want to see people hurt by that. i don't understand how mick mulvaney still has a job at the president was so upset with the budget that mick mulvaney wrote with congress that the president signed. i would say that's for the president. if he doesn't get his wall before the congress leaves, he won't get this wall because the best-case scenario for him is that the republicans have a smaller majority than they have now. they are more than likely going to be the minority in the house of representatives. the president knows that brady is going backwards. i get the strategy on his part because -- look, november is lost no matter what, so the president might as well go all and come up with his chips on the table come and see what he gets out of it because the presidents are taking the housee the senate, and then there will never be a wall. if he doesn't get the wall, he might not get reelected. it's a real issue for him right now. >> laura: you are predicting a lot of things there. you will hit mega millions. come on. [laughs] byron -- >> please. i'd have a better backdrop. >> laura: the house of representatives might go democrats. this is the shot for the border wall. i think chris is right. you don't get this money now, i don't think you will get it at all. mitch mitch mcconnell was asked about this over the weekend and once again it is kick the can down the road, mcconnell, on this issue. let's watch. >> is the funding of the border wall going to wait until after the midterm election? >> probably. that is something we do have a disagreement on. >> homeland security won't get funded before the midterms? >> probably not. >> you are not worried about a government shutdown? >> that's not going to happen. >> laura: [laughs] i kind of like that. byron, this is what they set last year. remember, last year, oh, we will wait until next term. next term rolled around, and the republicans, they just don't want this wall. let's face it. the g.o.p. does not want this wall. >> you got to remember, this was the president premier campaign promise. i went to a lot of trump rallies, covered a lot of trump rallies. this is what he said in every single one of them. if he doesn't deliver on it, that he has not delivered on his biggest campaign promise. i agree that, obviously, if the house goes democratic in november, just not going to happen. i think the president has not been focused enough on getting this. he has used other factors, like a chain migration or the visa lottery, thrown those into the banks, when perhaps the street wall for daca deal could have been done. but if it doesn't happen now, very, very good chance it's never going to happen. you have to remember, think about the secure fence act of, what was it, 2006? >> laura: yeah. >> congress, by big majorities, passed a rule to install aaa or fencing, really serious -- >> laura: democrats were all for it. >> along large parts of the border, both parties, but it was never done because it was controlled by republicans and democrats never wanted to do it. >> he had to deal -- he had to the daca for the wall deal. that is what you call those schumer shutdown happen. that was the trump shutdown because he called the dash pulled the deal out. >> laura: no, he didn't. >> he want to do. >> laura: no, he didn't. >> he had that deal and he was talked out of it. >> laura: chris, he doubled the number of people who will get amnesty, he wanted the end of the perverted system of chain migration, which has tripled the number of immigrants coming in every three years. it's ridiculous. that is what he wanted, and he wanted the end of visa lottery. that made sense. he was going to give a doubling of the people got amnesty. he didn't pull anything. he sweetened the deal, frankly. >> he change the deal. >> laura: it was what he campaigned on, and the democrats did not want to give him a victory. guys, we are out of time. i wanted to get tomorrow but we don't have time. fantastic segment. thank you so much. by the way, rudy giuliani, boy, he launched a media blitz to take out mueller. you check that out? michael cohen. what does it mean? that shut down over the russia probe. next. including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. it helps block six key inflammatory substances. most pills block one. flonase sensimist. most pills block one. chicken! that's right, chicken?! candace-- new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch-- bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat... mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations! chicken! trump tower meeting with russian nationals. >> there was another meeting that has been leaked, but hasn't been public yet. there was a meeting, an alleged meeting, three days before. according to cohen -- or according to the leak, may be koch withdrew this, i don't know, he said it was a meeting with donald, jr., jared kushner, with paul manafort, with gates and possibly to others, and which they come out of the presence o, discussed the meeting with the russians. we checked with their lawyers. that meeting never, ever took place. it didn't happen. it's a figment of his imagination or he's lying. >> laura: what to make of that? here to discuss, john solomon, pinion contributor at "the hill." in general charles mccalla, a former inspector general who was targeted in the past four is passed into hillary clinton's email server. gentlemen, good to see both of you. john, you've been a lot of reporting on this. have to get you on this first. rudy was all over the place over the weekend. and that little exchange on premeeting, saying, picked up everybody's ears. what do we know about that? >> i did a lot of reporting a year ago when the story first broke on this meeting. if bob mueller was still interested in that meeting right now, seriously interested in it, cohen's case would not be sitting in a southern district of new york. it would be sitting in the prosecutor's office. i think there's a lot of hot air on this particular focus that doesn't actually amount too much. there is just not any evidence that mueller has been that interested in it for some. lack of time. meanwhile, a lot of things -- i will say this, there is no tweet for the president could issue, there is no defense that has lawyers can put out there, there is no bar that any politician can put out there that will change more the course of the russia investigation then if the president were to be classified, the remaining parts of the fisa memo. this is where the story lies. when that is released, i think the american public will learn a lot about the flaws in the investigation, the circular intelligence reporting that occurred, and whether there is any evidence of collusion, which i don't believe there is based on my reporting. also i think we will learn there was other tactics, other ways of gathering information about the president, that have not yet been revealed. when they are revealed, they will be very troubling to the american public. >> laura: sound like they are doing prereporting. looking forward to reading your piece. charles, you get the sense that this is coming to a head here, both with whether the president will testify and the intensity of giuliani's comments about mueller and cohen. we'll get to your experience with the hillary email investigation, what happened to you as inspector general. what was your take on how long this drags on for and where we are today with this mueller probe? >> we've gone on for well over a year. there is nothing wrong with the administration putting a hard deadline on this. they shouldn't interview with the investigation. investigators get to do what they do. but there is certainly nothing wrong, these things can't go on forever. they are stressful for everyone involved. you have numerous people having to expend great amounts of money for legal fees. so they should put a hard deadline on this and stick to it. >> laura: again, we have a scenario here, where bob mueller puts on its investigation, not as an independent counsel, but special prosecutor. there is a fight going on now about whether the president is going to testify. clearly, from the beginning, the president was like, oh, i'll testify. but you run these investigations, you know, sending your client in to testify in this open-ended fashion would be nightmarish. i think it would be terrible for the administration. john, do you get any sense that we are going anywhere except a federal court, and probably all the way to the supreme court, to decide whether the president is going to be compelled to answer mueller's questions? >> you know, the special counsel mueller could have issued that subpoena a long time ago. it's been clear this has not been moving in any direction what was going to come to a resolution. a lot of conversation, no resolution. if you wanted to make it happen, he could have issue that subpoena a while ago. my gut tells me that they know what they need to know about the president, they know enough to write whatever report they want to write and pursue whatever prosecution they will pursue. i don't get a sense of a major constitutional crisis on the horizon. i could be wrong. he would've issued that subpoena it a while ago if he had so chosen. >> laura: charles, i want to get your thoughts on -- about nine months ago or so, you revealed to catherine herridge that you were targeted by hillary's allies for blowing the whistle on her illegal server. now the president is marked for continuing to bring this up, it sticks in his craw, and in the craw of a lot of us. you said that the november, "sources and methods, lives and operations, were all at risk." go into more of that if you could. >> it sticks in my car, too. we started this whole thing. we ended up referring edge of the fbi. but yeah, there were a lot of classified documents, highly classified documents, that were among this cache of documents that were on a private server. and there were open threats made to my folks who are looking into this, and to me, it is well documented at this point. it hit me the other day when there was this conversation about whether jim clapper should lose his clearance or director of brennan, and i don't think anybody can answer right now whether or not hillary is still cleared. i'm thinking she's probably still cleared at this point. that is probably part of that whole security clearance discussion. >> laura: talked about the other players, charles? >> sara miles, huma abedin -- >> laura: do they have clearance and still? >> i defy anyone to get a straight answer on whether any of them are still cleared. my sense is they probably are. i certainly would have hurt if they weren't. we would have offered if they weren't by now. this dative are our in her was best to look up at some time ago and i've never heard anything a. >> laura: we have a lot more to get into. charles, you'll stay with us. we have a shocking investigation into how the tsa may be spying on you as you check in for your flight. this is a mind-blowing report. every american has to see this. coming up next. ba® reason. now i'm doing more to lower my a1c. i take tresiba® once a day. tresiba® controls blood sugar for 24 hours for powerful a1c reduction. 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(vo) ask your health care provider about tresiba®. covered by most commercial health insurance and medicare part d plans. ♪ >> laura: the tsa is tracking american citizens on flights without their knowing it. even if they have not been suspected of any crime or if they are under investigation at all. "the boston globe" reporting that this previously undisclosed program known as "quiet skies" -- what the heck? this program is generating significant criticism from within the tsa. here was also discussed as boston globe reporter who broke. we are also rejoined by former inspector general of the intelligence community during the obama years, chuck mccullough. a wild thing. first of all, john, great story on this. incredible reporting. quiet skies. it sounds so placid and lovely. but what is this deal? it seems to me that none of this know about it. i've never heard congress talk about it. does that work? how should we be tracked? >> here is what we know. we know that thousands of ordinary american to americans who are suspected of no crime, and warranty on any watch list, are being followed by teams of armed undercover air marshals on domestic flights throughout the united states. when we reported the story on sunday, there has been a bit of outrage, i suppose, and at least four committees on the hill have demanded answers from tsa. tsa will be briefing for coke committees at least earlier this week. >> laura: you did great reporting, enough to get everyone's attention. big piece came out an hour ago, i know you saw it, it is your piece, "lawmakers demand answers on quiet skies, surveillance program, after "the globe" report." they're going nuts over it, as they should. here's a behavior checklist, chalk, i read this tracklist anw this morning to new york. a kind of -- i experienced all of these things, or at least observed them. excessive fidgeting. strong body odor. cold penetrating stare. that is a lady who wouldn't help with the overhead. wide open staring eyes. exaggerated emotions. and facial flushing. that is just to name a few. [laughs] what is this, chuck, go ahead. >> we've been running around for years telling people, if you cease and become a say something. >> laura: or smell something apparently. >> or if you smell something or somebody's got a stare. look, those items came from some study somewhere but the government i'm sure he paid for. but i am glad that the tsa is doing this. this is why we pay the air marshals. but we have been telling people to do this for regular citizens, if you cease and become as a something. and yet we have 1811 1811 law enforcement officers who are on the plane that -- they are not following people home. as long as they are on -- >> laura: what are they doing? that is what i want to do. are they keeping a database of people's names, observations about them? of these people have done nothing wrong, american citizens, and have done nothing wrong -- >> it goes into a room, changes, two, three, four times -- >> laura: may be an adult diaper. maybe you are called on a plane. >> it's irregular, and someone should knowledge that somewhere. if they don't noted and something happens, then guess w? they get blamed for it. >> laura: go ahead, jana. chuck is really smart but i'm surprised. go ahead, jana braids because the reason why the story is often the reason why i know anything about this to begin with is because the air marshals who are literally working theses not the best use of taxpayer money, and this is leaving us vulnerable, as a country, and on aircraft, because we are diverting our resources to follow people who are not suspected of anything. >> laura: this was started in 2010. everyone should know. this has been going on for eight years. i hope the inspector general of homeland security, if we even have one. do we have one, by the way, chuck? >> i think there is an acting over there. >> laura: okay. he gets to examine maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. >> there are going to be individual conduct, but if they have guidelines, and guidelines can be enforced, you will have problems case-by-case. we have been telling people for years, if you see something, say something. >> laura: this is people, this is the government. we have a constitution. >> would you not want them to say something if they see something? >> laura: we are talking about databases. go ahead, jana. >> one, this is not see something, say something. these are trained law enforcement officers who take it very seriously, to become whistle-blowers. this is not, as you know, this is not a decision made lightly to come forward about this program. they truly feel that we are putting the country addressed by following people when there is no reason to be doing so. collecting vast, minute-by-minute information from the moment they are spotted and identified from the gate at the departure airport up to taking note of the license plate of the vehicle that picks him up in the arrival city. everyone i talk to, every type of phone, every phone conversation, are they on a computer, are they sleeping? this is a lot more then see something, say something. this is not that. this is above and beyond and these are ordinary americans. >> i'm glad they are doing it and i hope they keep doing it because that is what we pay them to do. >> laura: john, i don't -- i mean, chuck, i don't pay them to be keeping the tabs on grandma who happens to have facial flushing and face touching. >> they are real threats in the air marshals would like to cover them. >> looking for irregularities, i'm sure that love came from somewhere, you can enforce controls -- >> laura: wait a second. spittle that is not the best defense. >> laura: chuck, you come as inspector general of the intel committee, so all this irregulag government. use of regularity and frankly stuff that was happening that could have her to national security. so use our people with good intentions go totally awry, correct? >> this is different. we are not leaving the airport, my understanding is. these are people and planes and in the airport who are doing things like ducking into a bathroom and changing for your four times in a very short. lack of time. that's weird. that is irregular behavior. >> that is not with this program is doing, though! respectively. >> laura: let me say, one of the other things on the checklist, by the way, the tsa has an $800 million budget. that is all i'll say. gripping -- >> there is less than 3,000 flying air marshals. there is more than 40,000 domestic flights a day. if you are following people who are not suspected of any crime -- >> laura: we don't want to do what israel does because that offends people. maybe that is why we are doing it. >> we don't have enough people to be doing it. this is what the air marshals are saying. >> this has been going on for eight years. >> laura: guys, guys. come on. i want to add another piece of data here. we will get more answers on this, i hope, this week, that is because it jana did the reporting and i'm happy we are having this conversation. maybe some good can come of it but right now, here are some of the other things. rapid eye blinking. adam's apple jumps. i guess that is when you swallow. and gripping or white knuckling bags. i like to knuckled my bags in minnesota today because i was -- i mean, some of these things are ridiculous. >> may be no one noticed. >> laura: maybe i'm being observed. >> that is a copper hands of list, okay. my guess is those are a few items out of a much longer list. i would want context. >> i can give you that context. >> laura: jana, keep on the story. we got to keep reporting this story. thank you for being with us. chuck, and valuable analysis from you. we will have you back. we haven't gotten to the hillary email questions. we need a three hour show. the case of a florida police officer shot by a haitian immigrant takes a tragic turn. stay with us. if yor crohn's symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn't worked well enough, it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both symptom relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain infection caused by a virus may be possible. this condition has not been reported with entyvio. tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio. if your uc or crohn's treatment isn't working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach. ♪ >> laura: less than a week after he was shot and wounded at a gas station while responding to a call, florida police officer adam jobbers-miller has tragically succumbed to his injuries. his killer, wisner desmaret, your rate remember from our coverage last year, came to the country from haiti when he was nine years old. he managed to escape conviction in the past but now i.c.e. has filed an immigration detainer hold on him. inexplicably, the city of philadelphia just announced that they will no longer grant i.c.e. access to a rest databases the one wisner desmaret was actually discovered on. here to debate this is a former i.c.e. special agent in charge of l.a. and immigration attorney alan orr. we were so worried about officer jobbers miller over the weekend, because he was in intensive care, we thought he might be improving. that came across my phone over the weekend. your heart sinks. as it does for anyone gunned down in the united states. tragic loss for his family and the community, the police turned out to honor him of the weekend. but claude, let's start with you here. people say, immigration, as his own issue. don't conflate the issues of illegal immigration are people who overstay a visa with a case that is horrible and tragic as this because police officers are shocked by american citizens, too. >> yeah, sure. look, i have been to far too many police officers at funerals than i would like to have atten. several who have been killed by people who are here illegally in the united states. and we have enough criminals and cop killers of our own. we certainly don't need to import any from elsewhere. the fact is, if mr. wisner desmaret had been ripped from the country -- he was here illegally -- the police officer would be alive. >> laura: allen or? >> condolences to the family and community for losing an officer. i bank him for his service. the issue tonight, it's not clear from the court filings that this individual is undocumented or illegal, they are probably an immigrant with a green card that is deportable. i haven't seen that in the facts. if you read the case hearing today, from his statements, it's clear that this person might have mental deficiencies, as he assumed that everyone was after him. the thing i wanted to say tonight is that the issue in this case is not as immigration status but crime in the united states. when we look at the failure of immigration, it is not at this individual immigrant, we should be looking at congress, for they haven't done. >> laura: right now we find ourselves in a situation where people are still allowed to walk across our southwest border where there is no fence or a fence that is have torn down or you can hop over easily, swim the rio grande, and i.c.e. -- the border patrol, excuse me, has stopped ms-13 gang members, just last week with the week before, stopped known gang members, who have actually been deported out of the country and stopped on their way back in. there clearly is an effort by the cartels, by human traffickers, to bring people into the country, both illegally obviously, and also to help gang activity in the united states, to grow the gang ranks, to replenish gang ranks, that is just a fact. while of course americans commit crimes everyday, we know that, i think we don't want more crime in the united states. we don't want more problems in our cities. we have kids that need help. we have allegory who need help. we have officers who are stretched with budgets who are stretched. we don't need any more problems. claude, right now, we have philadelphia, brotherly love city, you know, they are not going to be part of the database anymore. what could that do to hamper the apprehension and understanding of the people we are arresting for these crimes? >> real quickly, i would just like to say, in wisner desmaret's case, he came here as a visitor. the family applied for asylum, the information i have, it was denied. they were approached in removal proceedings, he was ordered deported. but then, out of the generosity of this country after the earthquake in haiti, they were granted temporary protected status. to show gratitude, he killed one of our heroes in blue. his status had ended so he should have been removed from the country. >> laura: had he been removed, we have an officer who is alive today. >> exactly. >> laura: let's get to the philadelphia story. the philadelphia story, yet another example of sanctuary city policies going to affect. how this helps the people of philadelphia is beyond me. claude, quickly come with an allen gets the last word. >> it doesn't help the people of philadelphia, this is just the city of philadelphia doubling down. first they are harboring people here illegally by refusing to cooperate with i.c.e. and then now they are refusing i.c.e. access to the records, so the people they release from jail, i.c.e. can't track down using that information. i believe i.c.e. should just issue subpoenas and then when they refuse the subpoenas, they should initiate a criminal investigation, and u.s. attorney for the eastern district of pennsylvania should convene a grand jury. >> laura: allen, the mayor of philly was the same one who literally did a snoopy dance when he found out the judge ruled that they could to the sanctuary city policy. as a practical matter, how does this happen keep the citizens a safe? >> i will move to my conservative side. these are local people. the mayor was saying they did not want to be rapid enforcement. the problem was, not only was it criminals, but it was also witnesses and other individuals related to crimes, and the problem was, i.c.e. was spending too much i'm rounding on the low-hanging fruit rather than focusing on people who really are a danger to the community. that is a problem in immigration right now. we are not trying to sort people out, we are just saying, every immigrant is a problem and we need to focus on that and that is not leading to security. we need to recognize that we want to deport 1,200,000,000 people. we don't have the money but for it. >> laura: 12 million. 1,200,000,000, will probably there soon. great segment, guys. thank you so much. the gap between the elites and everyday americans is widening. ben shapiro on what that means for the country next. are you ready to take your wifi to the next level? then you need xfinity xfi. a more powerful way to stay connected. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it's the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. that struck me as either sincere or an amazing facsimile. the workers, for their part, couldn't give him a standing ovation because they never sat down. i left the hall thinking, donald trump is going to be reelected in 2020. the democrats don't have anyone who can touch him. bank on it. don't hate me for being they want to tell you." hmm. joining me now is ben shapiro, editor for "the daily wire. i thought that was an honest liberal view. he hates trump. can't stand trump. but going to the reality and seeing the people of of the reaction of the people, but kamala harris, cory booker, will they get the mojo going? what are your thinking? >> the culture war that is being waged is not between the elites anomalies, it is the elitists and no one else. people think that the jobs being lost of the "new york daily news" is a national tragedy but jobs being lost in the steel belt is perfectly fine president trump does better than any other politician on the american scene, he conveys that he cares about people that are in these industries, pe that are doing the so called dirty jobs that people on the coast tend to think on the illegal immigrants are willing to do. >> laura: i did my "angle" on the koch brothers who have done a lot of things on tax reform and supporting brett kavanaugh and deregulation. they've done good stuff on that. but they are just adamant that even discussing tariffs is going to creator the global economy, it is going to be terrible. 60,000, 65,000 workers overseas. they have 60,000 in the united states, lot overseas. they are the older republican guard, and they don't like this. they will start finding some democrats because they want to fight that trump approach to trade. >> i think obviously funding democrats is not the answer. i'm a free trader and i'm not fond a pair of policy. the real key here, less policy driven then it is cultural. the president has a lot of sympathy for people who are in these industries that have paid a price due to trade. there is no question that there are winners and losers in trade. overall, i think is a great thing for the united states. free-trade is a great thing. but to pretend there are no downsides to trade is not telling the whole truth. >> laura: again, the results of the election in those rust belt states, they suffered a great job losses over the last 20 years, china being in the wto, all these neocon hawks who all they did was tell us, we got to both of the military, that is great. i agree. but china is the big write to america's dominance, militarilyd economically. if we grow their economy at the expense of our own, we will be untroubled on the road. i also want to get some thoughts from you on something that is the opposite of what the "chicago sun-times" columnist road. this was a piece published this morning imagining the day after trump's reelection loss in 2020. here it is. "as trump seeds and tweets and defeat late tuesday, president-elect elizabeth warren celebrated, the ark of the trump story is starting to make more sense than it has for much of his chaotic presidency. the normal rules of politics do apply to donald trump after all." so now the time was up for trump. they are already imagining his loss, which tells you, welcome of the derangement syndrome, whatever you want to call it, that cliche is wearing thin, they are not having to write about 2020 in 2018. >> they are desperate to take on president trump right now. they are hoping obviously that 2016 was an outlier and they will blame it on anything. hillary clinton being a bad candidate finally or russian collusion, which they have yet to prove. they want to acknowledge there is a stomach problem inside the democratic party and screaming medicare for all in running hillary clinton clone like elizabeth warren is not going to fix a giant gap that they have with them at all the country who may still consider a bunch of better cleaners working jobs they would never deign to get their hands dirty doing. i am a guy who was from the coast. i'm from l.a. i spent some time in cambridge, massachusetts. i am an elite, by any of these standards. but the bottom line is, the people in bootable country are doing work that is as important or more importantly the people on the coast, who are sitting in their coffee houses writing scripts. >> laura: you are not that i lead. just because you go to those nice institutions, if you understand the plight of the regular working person, and you think that they have a role in our economy, you are not an elite. >> i'm an elite but not -- trump made this distinction at a rally. he said, the people in this audience are elites but you are good at your job, if you work hard, and united states, you are an elite by any standard but you are not an elitist. that is where democrats get it wrong. >> laura: gott ha it. ben shapiro. awesome segment as always. is wa" i say, "i'll go my own way, with anoro." ♪ go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma. it contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. the risk is unknown in copd. anoro won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, high blood pressure, glaucoma, prostate, bladder, or urinary problems. these may worsen with anoro. call your doctor if you have worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain while taking anoro. ask your doctor about anoro. ♪ go your own way get your first prescription free at anoro.com.

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Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. policies, like regulation, or through poorly negotiated trade deals. don't get me wrong.ot the kochs have done great work on tax reform, stuffff like deregulation, and also in the area of education. last year, they spent $90 million in university programs, and they are committed to expanding their support for k-12 education. i have a question for you. how effective other educationn efforts be if americans enter a world where china dominates most major industries? including the areas of stem science, technology, so forth including things like artificial intelligence.ud we can't just look the other way while china and a lot of other countries, by the way, game the global trading system and rack up huge trade surpluses. i.t., stem, unfair subsidies and so forth. any fair-minded person would have to agree with what the white house economic advisor larry kudlow, a free trader himself, said over the weekend. >> people will say, well president trump's tariffs arere damaging this, that, and the other thing. i say, don't blame president trump. he inherited a completely broken world trading system, including a wto, most particularly china but not only china. okay? he's trying to fix that. >> laura: remember the kochs supported the job andix sovereignty killing trans-pacific partnership, and the nafta agreement that bush obama, and until the campaign at least, hillary championed. the koch network, like the rest of the g.o.p. old guard, is positively furious with trump'so use of tariffs to level the playing field. in fact, they announced's last month that they have committed to a multimillion dollar multiyear campaign to oppose what trump is doing onn trade. billionaire set. but for most americans, these are major concerns. now the koch network is taking it a step further. they are now going so far as too financially punish of someme politicians who are supportive of the president's agenda. they announced today that they will not be supporting g.o.p.'s north dakota senate candidate kevin kramer, trying to unseat democrat heidi heitkamp. what is the koch reason for that?t well, the republican candidate supported trump on both trade and immigration. at that confab i was mentioning earlier in colorado, charles koch made a big deal about "uniting people who were previously divided." what does that p mean? how are these latest retaliatory efforts actually doing that? trump is the one uniting people for all the talk of divisiveness, trump enjoys an 88% approval rating among republicans, according to "the wall street journal," nbc poll.. only george w. bush in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 saw support likeke that. but the koch network and others talk a good game about unity embracing change, seizing opportunities. but when the president comes along who is actually embracing a new path, something different on behalf of the american people, let's try a new thing now, the kochs and the globalists just have their blinders on. they won't have any of it. a i had to laugh when, in a feature on the koch retreat, it said the following, "democrats who attacked the koch brothersin in recent years, controlled that, at least in the area of trump, the billionaire industrialist, are no longer the left's number one enemy." [laughs] yeah, that's funny how that works. that is because republicans lacked a leader for soso many years that the kochs were the only game in town. but now, the left has a new enemy. it is trump. doubt about it. but it is wild to hear them raio on about trump's use of a tool that bush used, obama used reagan used, and is one of the classic tools of our economic negotiation throughout american history. >> yes, this is yet another example of the empire striking back against donald trump. trump ran on this premise that he was going to come in and smash the corrupt existingng order, the corrupt status quo. that meant the elite ruling class on both sides of the aisle, the media, and the networks like the kochs, who are so deeply invested in the globalist agenda. he promised that he was going to smash all of that and actually represent the american worker the american taxpayer, andct americans economic interests. the reason we have donald trump among many reasons, laura, is because he went out intoon the heartland and he said, you know what? i see you, i hear you, and i i will be your champion. now after just a year and a half barriers. they would never stand for the $15 billion bailout for the farmers in the midwest that the president is doing, something that monica would have called socialism had obama done it during his term. the kochs are consistent and they are consistent in their message. i don't trust that they will supportve liberals. they haven't said that they will support democrats. they said they will stay out of heidi heitkamp's race. they didn't say they would give her money. they will still spend aboutth $400 million on the midterms to try to elect republicans and conservatives who agree with their viewpoint. they are still going to beep active -- >> laura: but what weew are saying -- no one is saying a thy are not consistent. what we areau saying is, their time has come and gone.s they have a lot of dough, they done some good, philanthropypy they have done. but the era of endless warsey byron, and these global trade agreements, where america really can't get satisfaction, frankly what elizabeth warren and bernie sanders have talked about at different times, they talked, about these unfair trading regimes that benefit their well-heeled people, those days are over in the republican party. there is no constituency for it why we have an 88% approval rating for donald trump. byron? >> donald trump the candidate in 2016 really did blow up republican orthodoxy in some very, very key ways.ea trade was one of those ways. immigration actually was another. the kochs have had a complicated relationship with that because if you asked them last year they were absolutely delighted with all of ther, deregulation that has been taking place under the president, happy with the tax cuts, too. now very unhappy with tradee and with immigration. i think a lot of republicans are really going to part with them on this north dakota thing. for example, the kochs are now spending about a million dollars to support the confirmation of brett kavanaugh to the supreme court. republicans partisans would say if you don't support republicans to the senate, there is notub going to be another trump nominee to the supreme court. well -- >> laura: that's why it's important to support the challenger to heidi heitkamp. monica, there's a big talk about a potential shutdown now.rt you know, with the border wall. trump said i won't do the omnibus spending bill again.n. let's watch what the president said today about this. >> we need border security. border security includes theid wall. but it includes many other things. we have to end the lottery. we have to end the chain. the chain is like a disaster. you bring one person in, you end up with 32 people. the whole thing is ridiculous. we have to change our laws, and we do that through congress. i would certainly be willing toc close it down, to get it done. >> laura: the democrats are already going insane about this. again, old guard republicans "this will blow the midterm election cycle." what are your thoughts? >> i think they are afraid that donald trump means it. and you know what? he does. this is a man who relishes everything go fight and when he says i'm willing to shut down the government unless they get real money to start is border wall, they know that he means it. so republicans and democrats alike are really afraid of this. look, of the many reasons donald trump got elected in 2016, the primary one was illegal immigration, building the wall, and all of these issues. ending chain migration, the visn lottery -- >> laura: they've done nothing!di >> and he knows, in order to rouse the states going into the midterms, he needs to stick by this premise and shut down the government. >> laura: chuck schumer had no problem shutting down the government when trump was putting the pressure on with the daca kids, and he wanted to give withty, and he was fine shutting down the government. he tried to pass it off on trump. it wasn't trump. it was the democrats. now trump says, i'm not doing the omnibus thing.no he should never have signed that other omnibus. he should have vetoed that back then and he wouldn't be in this situation now. but do you think the democrats are hoping for a shutdown? t >> no. i don't think we are because we don't want to see people hurt by that. i don't understand hownk mick mulvaney still has a job at the president was so upset with the budget that mick mulvaney wrote with congress that the president signed. i would say this for the president. if he doesn't get his wall before the congress leaves, he won't get this wall because the best-case scenario for him is that the republicans have a smaller majority than they have now. they are more than likely going to be the minority in the house of representatives. the president knows that. he's going backwards. i get the strategy on his part because -- look,. november is lost no matter what, so the president might as well go all in, put his chips on the table it see what he gets out of because the democrats are takini the house and they might even take the senate, and then there will never be a wall. if he doesn't get the wall, he might not get reelected. it's a real issue for him right now. >> laura: you are predicting a lot of things there. you will hit mega millions. come on. [laughs] byron -- >> please. i'd have a better backdrop. >> laura: the house of representatives might go democrat. this is the shot for thee bordr wall. i think chris is right. you don't get this money now, i don't think you will get it at all. mitch mcconnell was asked about this over the weekend and once again it is kick the can down the road mcconnell on thiss issue. let's watch. >> is the funding of the border wall going to wait until after the midterm election? >> probably. that is something we do have a disagreement on. >> homeland security won't get funded before the midterms? >> probably not. >> you are not worried about a government shutdown? >> that's not going to happen. >> laura: [laughs] i kind of like that. byron, this is what they said last year. remember, last year, oh, we will wait until next term. next term rolled around, and the republicans, they just don't want this wall. let's face it. the g.o.p. does not want this wall.re >> you got to remember, this was the president's premier campaign promise. i went to a lot of trump rallies, covered a lot of trump rallies. this is what he said in every single one of them. if he doesn't deliver on it that he has not delivered on his biggest campaign promise. i agree that, obviously, if the house goes democratic in november, just not going to happen. i think the president has not been focused enough on getting this. he has used other factors, like a chain migration or the visa lottery, thrown those into the banks, when perhaps the straight wall for daca deal could have been done. but if it doesn't happen now very, very good chance it's never going to happen. you have to remember, think about the secure fence act off what was it, 2006? >> laura: yeah. >> congress, by big majorities passed a rule to install triple layer fencing, really serious -- >> laura: democrats weree all for it. >> along large parts of the border, both parties, but it was never done because it was controlled by republicans and democrats never wanted to do it. >> he had to deal -- he had to the daca for the wall deal. that is what you call the schumer shutdown happened. that was the trump shutdown because he called that -- pulled the deal out. >> laura: no, he didn't.mp >> he want to do. >> laura: no, he didn't. >> he had that deal and he was talked out of it. >> laura: chris, he doubledl the number of people who will get amnesty, he wanted the end of the perverted system of chaiw migration, which has tripled the number of immigrants coming in every three years. it's ridiculous. that is what he wanted, and he wanted the end of visa lottery. that made sense. he was going to give a doubling of the people got amnesty. he didn't pull anything. he sweetened the deal, frankly. >> he changed the deal. >> laura: it was what he campaigned on, and the democrats did not want to give him a victory. guys, we are out of o time. i wanted to get tomorrow but we don't have time. fantastic segment. thank you so much.or by the way, rudy giuliani, boy he launched a media blitz to take out mueller. you check that out? michael cohen. what does it mean? the shut down over the russia probe. next. ls? flonase sensimist relieves your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. it helps block six key inflammatory substances. most pills block one. flonase sensimist. most pills block one. are you ready to take your then you need xfinity xfi.? a more powerful way to stay connected. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it's the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. ♪ ♪ >> laura: rudy g has been widening of the airways today lighting up a salvo against the mueller probe and former trump attorney michael cohen. rudy addressed report accusations by cohen of ame separate premeeting among top trump campaign officials before the infamous 2016, june 2016 trump tower meeting with russian nationals. >> there was another meeting that has been leaked, but hasn't been public yet. there was a meeting, an alleged meeting, three days before. according to cohen -- or according to the leak, may be cohen withdrew this, i don't know, he said it was a a meeting with donald, jr., jared kushner with paul manafort, withit gates and possibly two others, and which they come out of the presence of the president discussed the meeting with the russians. we checked with their lawyers. that meeting never, ever took place. it didn't happen. it's a figment of his imagination or he's lying. >> laura: what to make of that? here to discuss, john solomon opinion contributor at "the hill." and general charles mccullough a former inspector general who was targeted in the past for his investigation into hillary clinton's email server. gentlemen, good to see both of you. john, you've been a lot of reporting on this. have to get you on this first. rudy was all over the place over the weekend. and that little exchange on premeeting, saying, picked up everybody's ears. what do we know about that? >> i did a lot of reporting a year ago when the story first broke on this meeting. if bob mueller was still interested in that meeting right now, seriously interested in it cohen's case would not be sitting in the southern district of new york. it would be sitting in the prosecutor's office. i think there's a lot of hot air on this particular focus that doesn't actually amount to much. there is just not any evidence that mueller has been that interested in it for some period of time. meanwhile, a lot of things -- i will say this, there is no tweet for the president could issue there is no defense that has lawyers can put out there, there is no barb c that any politician can put out there that will change more the course of the russia investigation then if the president were to declassify the remaining parts of the fisa memo. this is where the story lies. when that is released, i think the american public will learn a lot about the flaws in the investigation, the circularn intelligence reporting that occurred, and whether there is any evidence of collusion,n, whh i don't believe there is based on my reporting. also i think we will learn there was other tactics, other ways of gathering information about the president, that have not yet been revealed. when they are revealed, they will be very troubling to the american public. >> laura: sound like you are doing prereporting. looking forward to reading your piece. charles, you get the sense that this is coming to a head here both with whether theen presidet will testify and the intensity of giuliani's comments about mueller and cohen. we'll get to your experience with the hillary email investigation, what happened to you as inspectorie general. what was your take on how long this drags on for and where we are today with this mueller probe? >> we've gone on for well over a year. there is nothing wrong with the administration putting a hard deadline on this. they shouldn't interfere withmi the investigation. investigators get to do what they do. but there is certainly nothing wrong, these things can't go on forever.r. they are stressful for everyone involved. you have numerous people having to expend great amounts of money for legal fees. so they should put a hard deadline on this and stick to it. >> laura: again, we have a scenario here, where bob mueller puts on its investigation, not as an independent counsel, but special prosecutor. there is a fight going on now about whether the president is going to testify. clearly, from the beginning, the president was like, oh, i'll testify. but you run these investigations, you know sending your client in to testify in this open-ended fashion would be nightmarish. i think it would be terrible for the administration. john, do you get any sense that we are going anywhere except a federal court, and probably all the way to the supreme court, to decide whether the president is going to be compelled to answer mueller's questions? >> you know, the special counsel mueller could have issued that subpoena a long time ago. it's been clear this has not been moving in any direction what was going to come to a resolution. a lot of conversation, no resolution. if you wanted to make it happen he could have issue thatom subpoena a while ago. my gut tells me that they know what they need to know about the president, they know enough to write whatever report they want to write and pursue whatever i prosecution they will pursue. i don't get a sense of a majorwr constitutional crisis on the horizon. i could be wrong. he would've issued that subpoena it a while ago if he had so chosen. >> laura: charles, i want to get your thoughts on -- about nine months ago or so, you revealed to catherine herridge that you were targeted by hillary's allies for blowing the whistle on her illegal server. now the president is mocked for continuing to bring this up, it o sticks in his craw, and in the craw of a lot of us. you said that the november "sources and methods, lives and o operations, were all at risk." go into more of that if you could. >> it sticks in my craw, too. we started this whole thing. we ended up referring it to the fbi. but yeah, there were a lot of classified documents, highly classified documents, that were among this cache of documents that were on a private server. and there were open threats made to my folks who are looking into this, and to me, it is well documented at this point. it hit me the other day when there was this conversation about whether jim clapper should lose his clearance or director brennan, and i don't think anybody can answer right now whether or not hillary is still cleared. i'm thinking she's probably still cleared at this point. that is probably part of that whole securitycl clearance discussion. >> laura: talked about the other players, charles? s >> cheryl mills, huma abedin -- >> laura: do they have clearances still? >> i defy anyone to get a straight answer on whether any of them are still cleared. my sense is they probably are. i certainly would have heard ife they be weren't. we would have offeredit if they weren't by now. the state department was >> laura: we have a lot more to get into. charles, you'll stay with us. we have a shocking investigation into how the tsa may be spying on you as you check in for your flight. this is a mind-blowing report. every american has to see this. coming up next.ev without their knowing it. even if they have not been suspected of any crime or if they are under investigation at all. "the boston globe" reporting that this previously undisclosed program known as "quiet skies" -- what the heck? this program is generating significant criticism from within the tsa. here with us to discussat is "boston globe" reporter jana winter who broke the story. we are also rejoined by former inspector general of the intelligence communityrs during the obama years, chuck jmccullough. a wild thing. first of all, jana, great story on this. incredible reporting. quiet skies. it sounds so placid and lovely. but what is this deal? it seems to me that none of this know about it. i've never heard congress talk about it. does that work? how could we be tracked? >> here is what we know. we know that thousands of ordinary american to americans who are suspected of no crime and warranty on any watch list are being followed by teams of armed undercover air marshals on domestic flights throughout the united states. when we reported the story on sunday, there has been a bit of outrage, i suppose, and at least four committees on the hill have demanded answers from tsa.t tsa will be briefing four committees at least earlier this week. >> laura: you did greatef reporting, enough to get everyone's attention.hi big piece came out an hour ago i know you saw it, it is your piece, "lawmakers demand answers on quiet skies, surveillance program, after "the globe" report." they're going nuts over it, as they should.po here's a behavior checklistov chuck, i read this checklist and i am like, i just flew this morning to new york. i kind of -- i experienced all of these things, or at least observed them. excessive fidgeting. strong body odor. cold, penetrating stare. that is the lady who wouldn't help with the overhead. wide open, staring eyes. exaggerated emotions. and facial flushing. that is just to name a few. [laughs] what is this, chuck? go ahead. >> we've been running around for years telling people, if you see something, say something. >> laura: or smell something apparently. >> or if you smell something or somebody's got a stare. look, those items came from some study somewhere but the government i'm sure dearly paid for. but i am glad that the tsa is doing this. this is why we pay the air marshals. but we have been telling people to do this for regular citizens if you cease and become as a something. and yet we have 1811 law enforcement officers who are on the plane that -- they are not following people home. as long as they are on -- >> laura: what are they doing? that is what they want to do. are they keeping a database of people's names, observations about them? if these people have done nothing wrong, american citizens, and have done nothing wrong -- >> if a person goes into a room changes, two, three, four times -- >> laura: maybe it's an adult diaper. maybe you are cold on a plane. >> it's irregular, andnd someone should knowledge that somewhere. if they don't note it and something happens, then guess what happens?? they get blamed for it. >> laura: go ahead, jana. chuck is really smart but i'm surprised. go ahead, jana. >> the reason why the story is out, and the reason why i know anythings anything about this to begin with is because the air marshals who are literally working thesea flights have said, this is not the best use of taxpayer money and this is leaving us vulnerable, as a country, and on aircraft, because we are diverting our resources to follow people who aree not suspected of anything. >> laura: this was started in 2010.sp everyone should know. this has been going on for eight years. i hope the inspector general of homeland security, if we even have one. do we have one, by the way chuck? >> i think there is an acting over there. >> laura: okay. he gets to examine maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. >> there are going to bexa individual conduct, but if they have guidelines, and guidelines can be enforced, you will have problems case-by-case. we have been telling people for years, if you see something, sa, something. >> laura: this is people, this is the government. we have a constitution. >> would you not want them to say something if they see something? >> laura: we are talking about databases.er go ahead, jana. >> one, this is not see something, say something. these are trained law enforcement officers who take it very seriously, to become whistle-blowers. this is not, as you know, this is not a decision made lightly to come forward about this program. they truly feel that we are putting the country at riskk by following people when there is no reason to be doing so. collecting vast minute-by-minute information from the moment they are spotted and identified from the gate at the departure airport up to taking note of the license plate of the vehicle that picks them up in the arrival city. everyone they talk to, every type of phone, every phone conversation, are they on a computer, are they sleeping? this is a lot more then see something, say something. this is not that. this is above and beyond and these are ordinary americans. >> i'm glad they are doing it t and i hope they keep doing it because that is what we pay them to do. >> laura: john, i don't -- i mean, chuck, i don't pay them to be keeping the tabs on grandma who happens to have facial flushing and face touching. >> they are real threats in the air marshals would like to cover them. >> looking for irregularities i'm sure that list came from somewhere, you can enforce controls -- >> laura: wait a second. >> that is not the best defense. >> laura: chuck, you, as inspector general of the intel committee, so all this irregularity with big government. you saw irregularity and frankly stuff that was happening that could have hurt national security. so you saw people with good intentions go totally awry correct? >> this is different. we are not leaving the airport my understanding is. these are people in planes and in the airport who are doing things like ducking into a bathroom and changing three or your four times in a very short period of time. that's weird. that is irregular behavior. >> that is not what this program is doing, though! respectfully. >> laura: let me say, one of the other things on the checklist, by the way, the tsa has an $800 million budget. that is all i'll say. gripping -- >> there is less than 3,000 flying air marshals. there is more than 40,000s domestic flights a day. if you are following people who are not suspected of any crime -- >> laura: we don't want to do what israel does because thatt offends people. maybe that is why we are t doing it. >> we don't have enough people to be doing it. this is what the air marshals are saying. >> this has been going on for eight years. >> laura: guys, guys. come on. i want to add another piece of data here. we will get more answers on this, i hope, this week, that is because it jana did the reporting and i'm happy we are having this conversation. maybe some good can come of it but right now, here are some of the other things. rapid eye blinking. adam's apple jumps. i guess that is when you swallow. and gripping or white knuckling bags. i white knuckled my bags in minnesota today because i was -y i mean, some of these things are ridiculous. >> maybe someone noticed. >> laura: maybe i'm being observed. >> if that is a comprehensive list, okay. my guess is those are a few items out of a much longer list. i would want context. >> i can give you that context. >> laura: jana, keep on the story. we got to keep reporting this story. thank you for being with us. chuck, invaluable analysis from you. we will have you back. we haven't gotten to the hillary email questions. we need a three hour show. the case of a florida police officer shot by a haitian immigrant takes a tragic turn. stay with us. ♪ are ♪ >> laura: less than a week after he was shot and wounded at a gas station while responding to a call, florida police officer adam jobbers-miller has tragically succumbed to his injuries. his killer, wisner desmaret your may remember from our coverage last year, came to the country from haiti when he was nine years old. he managed to escape conviction in the past but now i.c.e. has filed an immigration detainer hold on him. inexplicably, the city of philadelphia just announced that they will no longer grant i.c.e. access to a rest databases the one wisner desmaret was actually discovered on. here to debate this is a former i.c.e. special agent in charge of l.a. claude arnold and immigration attorney allen orr. we were so worried about officer jobbers miller over the weekend because he was in intensive care, we thought he might bejo improving. that came across my phone over the weekend. your heart sinks. as it does for anyone gunned down in the united states. tragic loss for his family and the community, the police turned out to honor him of the weekend. but claude, let's start with you here. people say, immigration, as his own issue. don't conflate the issues of illegal immigration are people who overstay a visa with a case that is horrible and tragic as this because police officers are shot by american citizens, too. >> yeah, sure. look, i have been to far too many police officers' funerals than i would like to have attended. several who have been killed by people who are here illegally in the united states. and we have enough criminals and cop killers of our own. we certainly don't need to import any from elsewhere. the fact is, if mr. wisner desmaret had been ripped from the country -- he was here illegally -- thee polie officer would be alive. >> laura: allen orr? >> condolences to the family and community for losing an officer. i thank him for his service. the issue tonight, it's not clear from the court filings that this individual is undocumented or illegal, they are probably an immigrant with a green card that is deportable. i haven't seen that in the facts. if you read the case hearing today, from his statements, it'. clear that this person might have mental deficiencies, as he assumed that everyone was after him. the thing i wanted to say, tonight is that the issue in this case is not is immigration status but crime in the united states. when we look at the failure of immigration, it is not at this individual immigrant, we should be looking at congress for they haven't done. >> laura: right now we find ourselves in a situation where people are still allowed to walk across our southwest border where there is no fence or a fence that is have torn down or you can hop over easily, swim the rio grande, and i.c.e. -- the border patrol, excuse me has stopped ms-13 gang members just last week with the week before, stopped known gang members, who have actually been deported out of the country and stopped on their way back in. there clearly is an effort by the cartels, by humann traffickers, to bring people into the country, both illegally obviously, and also to help gang activity in the united states to grow the gang ranks, to replenish gang ranks, that is just a fact. while of course americans commit crimes everyday, we know that, i think we don't want more crime in the united states. we don't want more problems in our cities. we have kids that needte help. we have elderly who need help. we have officers who are stretched with budgets who are stretched. we don't need any more problems. claude, right now, we have philadelphia, brotherly love city, you know, they are not going to be part of the database anymore. what could that do to hamper the apprehension and understanding of the people we are arresting for these crimes? >> real quickly, i would just like to say, in wisner desmaret's case, he came here as a visitor. the family applied for asylum the information i have, it was denied. they were put in removal proceedings, he was ordered deported. but then, out of the generosity of this country after thede earthquake in haiti, they were granted temporary protected status. to show his gratitude, he killed one of our heroes in blue. his status had ended so he should have been removed from the country. >> laura: had he been removed we have an officer who is alive today. >> exactly. >> laura: let's get to the philadelphia story. the philadelphia story is yet another example of sanctuaryth city policies going to affect. how this helps the people of philadelphia is beyond me. claude, quickly, then allen gets the last word. >> it doesn't help the people of philadelphia, this is just theau city of philadelphia doubling down. first they are harboring people here illegally by refusing to cooperate with i.c.e. and then now they are refusing i.c.e. access to the records, so the people they release from jail i.c.e. can't track down using that information. i believe i.c.e. should just issue subpoenas and then when they refuse the subpoenas, theyl should initiate a criminal investigation, and u.s. attorney for the eastern district of pennsylvania should convene a grand jury.fo >> laura: allen, the mayor off philly was the same one who literally did a snoopy dance when he found out the judge ruled that they could to the sanctuary city policy. as a practical matter, how does this happen keep the citizens a safe? >> i will move to my conservative side. these are local people. the mayor was saying they did not want to be rapid enforcement. the problem was, not only was it criminals, but it was also witnesses and other individuals related to crimes, and the problem was, i.c.e. was spending too much on roundingd up the low-hanging fruit rather than focusing on people who really are a danger to the community. that is a problem in immigration right now. we are not trying to sort people out, we are just saying, every immigrant is a problem and we need to focus on that and that is not leading to security. we need to recognize that we 12 million people. we don't have the money but for it. >> laura: 12 million. 1,200,000,000, we'll probably there soon. great segment, guys. thank you so much. the gap between the elites and everyday americans is widening. ben shapiro on what that means for the country next. are you ready to take your wifi to the next level? then you need xfinity xfi. a more powerful way to stay connected. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it's the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. or an amazing facsimile. the workers, for their part couldn't give him a standing ovation because they never sat down. i left the hall thinking donald trump is going to be reelected in 2020. the democrats don't have anyone who can touch him. bank on it. don't hate me for being they want to tell you." hmm. joining me now is ben shapiro editor for "the daily wire." i thought that was an honest liberal view. he hates trump. can't stand trump. but going to the rally and seeing the reaction of the people, but kamala a harris cory booker, will they get the mojo going? what are your thinking? >> the culture war that is being waged is not between the elites anomalies, it is the elitists and no one else. people think that the jobs being lost of the "new york daily news" is a national tragedy but jobs being lost in the steel belt is perfectly fine. what president trump does better than any other politician on the american scene, he conveys that he cares about people that are in these industries, people thal are doing the so called dirty jobs that people on the coast tend to think on the illegal immigrants are willing to do. >> laura: i did my "angle" on the koch brothers who have donel a lot of things on tax reform: and supporting brettan kavanaugh and deregulation. they've done good stuff on that. but they are just adamant that even discussing tariffs is going to creator the global economy it is going to be terrible. i 60,000, 65,000 workersba overse. they have 60,000 in the t united states, a lot overseas. they are the old republican guard, and they don't like this. they will start funding somegu democrats because they want to fight that trump approach to trade. >> i think obviously funding democrats is not the answer. i'm a free trader and i'm not fond of tariff policy.us the real key here, less policy-driven than it is cultural. the president has a lot of sympathy for people who are in these industries that have paidl a price due to trade. there is no question that there are winners and losers in trade. overall, i think is a great thing for the united states. free-trade is a great thing. but to pretend there are no downsides to trade is not telling the whole truth. >> laura: again, the results of the election in those rust belt states, they suffered a great job losses over the last 20 years, china being in the wto, all these neocon hawks l wo all they did was tell us, we got to build up the military, that is great. i agree. but china is the big threat to america's dominance, militarily and economically. if we grow their economy at the expense of our own, we will be in trouble down the road. i also want to get some thoughts from you on something that is the opposite of what the "chicago sun-times" columnist road. this was a piece published this morning imagining the day after trump's reelection loss in 2020. here it is. "as trump seethes and tweets in defeat late tuesday president-elect elizabeth warren celebrated, the arc of the trump story is starting to make more sense than it has for much of his chaotic presidency. the normal rules of politics doo apply to donald trump after all." so now the time was up for trump. they are already imagining his loss, which tells you, well, the derangement syndrome, whatever you want to call it, that c clie is wearing thin, they are now having to write about 2020 in 2018. >> they are desperate to take on president trump right now. they are hoping obviously that 2016 was an outlier and they will blame it on anything. hillary clinton being a bad candidate finally or russian collusion, which they have yet to prove. they want to acknowledge there is a stomach problem insidee the democratic party and screaming medicare for all in running hillary clinton clone like elizabeth warren is not going to fix a giant gap that they have with them at all the country wh may still consider a bunch off better cleaners working jobsry they would never deign to get their hands dirty doing. i am a guy who was from the coast.et i'm from l.a. i spent some time in cambridge massachusetts. i am an elite, by any ofss these standards. but the bottom line is, the people in bootable country are doing work that is as important or more importantly thes people on the coast, who are sitting in their coffee houses writing scripts. >> laura: you are not an elite. just because you go to those nice institutions, if you understand the plight of the. regular working person, and you think that they have a role in our economy, you are not an elite. >> i'm an elite but not -- trump made this distinction at a rally. he said, the people in this audience are elites but if you are good at your job, if you work hard, in the united states you are an elite by any standard but you are not an elitist. that is where democrats get it wrong. >> laura: got it. ben shapiro. awesome segment as always. trie, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way, with anoro." ♪ go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma. it contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. the risk is unknown in copd. anoro won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, .. call your doctor if you have worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain while taking anoro. ask your doctor about anoro. ♪ go your own way get your first prescription free at anoro.com.

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Katy Tur hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. >> that's right, katy. you know, the president tweeted sunday in response to our article that he is not worried about don jr., but people who have been talking to him on the phone say in fact he is worried about his son. he is worried about a lot of aspects related to this russia probe, which is getting closer and closer to him, to his family, to his associates, to his orbit. it's uncomfortable at the moment. there is some concern that he has that his son may be found to have violated the law somehow, you know. one person speculated maybe his son could have perjured himself in interviews at some point. i mean, the president just doesn't know at this point what could be in store for his son. it is a source of concern and it's one of many things that's fueling what we're seeing, which is a real public lashing by the president of mueller again and again and again, tweeting more than he has before about the witch hunt, calling out mueller by name, really stepping up his pr blitz against this russia investigation. >> and phil, what do you know about why hope hicks was with the president over the weekend? she quit the white house a few months back and she is also the person who he dictated that stateme statement to. any indication where why she was out with the president over the weekend? >> you know, there is no public indication, katy. i don't think, based on my reporting, that she is coming back into the white house to work. i think she has been living in new york of late, and i suspect she was just down there for a couple of days to catch up with people and visit with the president. but she is not coming back into work in the white house as far as we know. >> kmuk, do you see any issues with hope hicks showing up at this event? >> absolutely. it's elementary if you are a defense lawyer you tell your clients not to talk to anybody who might be a witness in this investigation. we know hope hicks is a witness in this investigation. we have her on air force one helping to draft the statement, having a third person there, a hope hicks, for instance, would object i ha obviate the privilege. >> in "the new yorker," it was possible days ago to believe with generosity towards the president and hess time that the meeting was about adoption, went nowhere, and was overblown by the administration's men meece. no longer. the open questions are far more nair oechlt was this narrow. is attempted collusion a crime? what legal and moral responsibilities did the president and his team have when he realized that the proposed collusion was underway when the dnc emails were leaked and published? and crucially, what did the president know before the election, after it, and when he instructed his son to lie? i'm focusing on one part of this. is attempted collusion a crime? >> so collusion is a word that many of us have rejected in favor of conspiracy, but i think collusion is helpful in many ways because it describes this entire course of conduct, this effort really to defraud the united states, which we see part of that conspiracy on the russian side. and the question you are asking, indica katy, could there be a conspiracy that involves the americans, that involves the president, people high up in his campaign, and this more sophisticated question of is attempt enough? even if they weren't successful, could efforts that they made be enough? for instance, we see them going into this meeting, which the president has now characterized as an effort to obtain assistance from the russians. we know that the russians were putting information on the table. this wasn't opposition research. opposition research is when you go in and pay someone for their research services. this was a meeting that was, in essence, an effort to obtain stolen emails, to obtain ill gotten goods to be used in the campaign, and i think attempt is likely a charge as anything else, although it looks like they were fully successful as the emails were later released, perhaps in response to the president's request for russia to find hillary's emails. >> chuck, what is the significance of the story changing over and over again? from a layman's perspective, if a person tells me one thing and then tells me another thing and a third thing, i will start to believe that that person isn't telling me the truth about any of it. is that how a prosecutor might look at what the president has done? >> you'd make a good prosecutor. >> i mean, thatelementary. >> you don't have to rehearse the truth. you don't have to commit the truth to memory. the truth is the truth. and everybody who sees the color of the light knows it's red, doesn't have to remind themselves that it's red. doesn't have to tell folks it was green. the truth is easy. what's hard is keeping up with the changing stories. when prosecutors see stories change over time, that really raises red flags. may i add one thing? joyce nailed it in terms of conspiracy law. the other important point here, katy, is that not all conspirators have to start on the same day. if you and joyce decide to rob a bank, i could join your conspiracy two weeks later. we know from the gru indictment that a lot of the activity, the russian intelligence officers trying to hack into the dnc started in march and april of 2016 two or three months before the trump tower meeting. that doesn't mean that folks couldn't have joined the conspiracy at that meeting. you can join a conspiracy while it's in the process. so there is lots of legal questions and lots of evidence that the mueller folks have to look at. >> phil, a lot has happened in the last few weeks in terms of the mueller investigation and the changing stories. could the president be feeling a bit boxed in, more box in now than he has yet? >> for me? >> no, phil. >> oh, yeah, he could be boxed in, certainly. i think he feels that way. he certainly appears to be feeling that way based on the anxiety that he is showing publicly in his comments. there are a couple other things going on right now. he is trying to decide whether to do that interview with robert mueller. that's a really consequence juncture for him. it could expose him to some jeopardy, which is why his lawyers are very hesitant to let him do that. but he, of course, thinks he can convince mueller. so he wants to speak. so that's going on. they are also waiting for any potential future indictments. there is a feeling that something may be afoot in the special counsel's office. they are waiting for that. >> one last question to joyce. joyce, in this idea that the president needs to decide on whether he is going to sit down with mueller this next week, could that be a time constraint mueller put on trump's team rather than rudy giuliani just saying off the top of his head we are going to decide in a week? >> it's hard to know. obviously, giuliani thinks it benefits the president to keep this story that the president is contemplating an interview in front of the public. but i have honestly lost track of how many times over how many months, right, we have seen this headline. the president will decide within the next dten days. this is more special counsel's call than it is the president's, although i would say he may have actually given them a little bit of additional umh to their request to interview them with the tweet. under doj policy, although it's unusual to interview someone who a target, and we have been told he is not formally a target, but he is being considered, he seems to have information that's uniquely in his possession that special counsel can't get from talking with anyone else. they may expand the areas they wish to question him about. >> interesting point. we don't blame you for having a hard time keeping track. joyce vance, thanks for sticking around. phil and chuck, thank you very much. and liar versus liar. is robert mueller's star witness in the paul manafort case as trustworthy as prosecutors need him to be? 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"the washington post" reports to prove manafort is a liar, prosecutors will rely in part on gates. someone with a long track record of lying. even when gates met with prosecutors in february to try to win a plea deal, he lied. to get an agreement, gates had to admit to that lie. joining me "washington post" national security reporter develin barrett. he is the author of that piece in "the post." back with us, former u.s. attorney joyce vance. what should we expect this week? >> i think this is going to be where both sides go pretty hard at each other. the prosecutors, because they think rick gates really puts all of the blame for this on manafort, and the defense because they think that rick gates is a weak enough witness, a witness who brings so many problems to the table that maybe, if by making rick gates look bad, they can make the entire prosecution case look bad. >> remind us again. gates in the manafort world, what was he in charge of, what was he doing, does the defense have a leg to stand on when they say gates was the one really running the business? >> well, gates was in some ways doing a lot of the day-to-day management of manafort's business. it is certainly true in the emails that have been introduced into evidence so far show gates is the one providing information to accountants or bookkeepers. it's certainly true that gates played a direct role in forwarding this information that the government says are clearly lies, but the government's point is that he did that at manafort's direction. if gates lied, he lied because he was doing what manafort wanted. and that's going to be the argument that's going to play out this week. >> joyce, politico reports that the defense is basically manafort was too busy to cheat the tax man. manafort was so busy, the defense argues, he wouldn't have had much time to get into the details of which accounts were used to pay his bills, but while it seems indisputable that manafort sometimes had a hectic schedule, it's not as if he was all work and no play. he doesn't seem to have been too busy to visit tayloreilors to b fitted for custom-made suits or to pick out the ostrich or python jackets or take advantage of the new york yankees season tickets he owned. >> so defendants will often go for this sort of a strategy when they really have an empty hand. you have to find someone else to blame. but it's difficult forman, after last week's testimony, in which his accountants testified that he was intimately involved in signing off on the final details. sure, gates was in the mix. that's why he'll be a witness and potentially a powerful one for the government, but it will be difficult for the jury to set aside the testimony that they heard last week and lay it all off on gates, which is what manafort needs them to do if he is going to be acquitted. >> joyce, develin puts this very well. whom to believe? the accused liar or the admitted one? what is a more, i guess, trust both source? the person that you are trying to point as a liar or the person that has already lied but at the least has admitted to it? >> prosecutors never get to pick their own witnesses. i mean, if we did, we would not pick someone like gates as a witness, right? you would pick a priest or a teacher or a choir boy. in reality, it's manafort who chose gates as a witness, and that says a lot about the fact that the two of them were in league together. the prosecution's job here will be to support gates' newly found credibility either with documentary evidence, with other witnesses, with circumstantial guarantees of his truthfulness now. but the prosecution won't soft sell him to the jury. they will come upfront and explain to the jury in excruciating detail his misdeeds and what brought him to this moment and why the jury should be able to trust his testimony in the courtroom under oath today and tomorrow. >> we will see what happens and when rick gates takes the stand. develin barrett and joyce vance, thank you very much. and there is fear in ohio that a district that has been red since the '80s might go blue in tomorrow's special election. could it be the trump effect? the fact is, there are over ninety-six hundred roads named "park" in the u.s. it's america's most popular street name. but allstate agents know that's where the similarity stops. if you're on park street in reno, nevada, the high winds of the washoe zephyr could damage your siding. and that's very different than living on park ave in sheboygan, wisconsin, where ice dams could cause water damage. but no matter what park you live on, one of 10,000 local allstate agents knows yours. now that you know the truth, are you in good hands? louisa, get your hand out of the camera. sorry about that. back to 1980. a gallon of gas cost about $1.20. a woman in love by barbra streisand was number one on the billboard hot -- 100. it was also the last time a democrat was elected in ohio's 12th congressional district. now almost 28 years later republicans are worried that ohio's 12th could turn blue in tomorrow's special election. the reason? the republican in the white house. >> the chaos that seems to surround donald trump has unnerved a lot of people. suburban women in particular here are the ones that are really turned off. you add to that the millennials, you have it very close. it's really kind of shocking because this should be just a slam dunk and it's not. >> joining me bloomberg politics national reporter sahil kapor and steve kornacki. steve, why are the republicans worried about ohio? >> we have had so many special elections. we have seen this pattern of democrats improving on how they did in 2016. in this district in ohio, the columbus suburbs, this is the pattern here. how many times have we seen this story of double-digit gains for the democrats versus the 2016 margin. that's what it would take, a double-digit gain. democrats would win this district and polls have shown it basically dead even heading into tomorrow. here is the fascinating thing. take a look at this district. this is one trump won by 11, romney won by 11. this district sort of a little bit of columbus, ohio, and then it goes out wards into rural areas and into some small cities. this is a tale of two scientist. this is the fascinating. tale of two americas, if you will. right here columbus and delaware county, this is the kind -- this is the part of america that swung away from trump in 2016. college educated, white color, a lot of suburban upscale neighborhoods. this swung away from trump in 2016. the rest of the district though up here, down here, complete opposite. how many times have we talked about blue collar white colleges? noncollege. 15 to 30 point gains for donald trump in 2016. so basically the name of the game for democrats is, hey, they want to drive upturnout in and around the columbia area. in these outlying areas if they do what barack obama did here four years ago, eight years ago, 2012, 2008, they could win the district. >> how worried are republicans about women in particular, and why could that be an opening, a weak spot for the president? >> well, they are worried, and for good reason. if republicans lose this race, it would be a tsunami warning for a blue wave in november. three months from today the midterm elections. this represents the preponderance of white suburban college educated voters. it's the most college educated district in ohio. those are the voters one strategist on the republican side called them the kasich republicans who moved away from donald trump. troy balder son, his task between now and the election tomorrow has been and will continue to be to fire up the base, which is predominantly trump voters, while also appealing to the kasich republicans. can you bring in donald trump and mike pence and sound the notes of crime, open borders, liberal resistance, that stuff they wanted, while winning over the moderate republicans who have been turning away from the party lately? that is where democrats feel optimistic. they think they can peel off some of those republicans, particularly women, katy, to your point, who have turned away from the gop. >> remember the soft republicans, soft democrats were helped to trump's side in 2016 because of wikileaks. he was waving those around and he had the confirmation bias to play on with hillary clinton. she is crooked, vote for me. that helped him with those republicans and those democrats. steve, i want to talk about the democrats. there is an interesting story that i guess we are not covering as much as we would normally be covering it because the president tweets and says wacky things all the time. there is i don't want to call it a war, but a battle between the progressive side and the traditional side. we are seeing emily's list versus bernie sanders' folks. >> yeah. we say there is the special election in ohio. there are primaries tomorrow, candidates being picked for the general election. one in michigan for the governor's race. it matches up two major sources of emergency in the democratic party the last couple of years against each other. the bernie sanders wing of the democratic party, which we saw their power with the grassroots in 2016. michigan the state that bernie sanders upset hillary clinton and gave his campaign a new burst of momentum. on the other side what we have seen this year, one of the stories in the primaries so far, female candidates running in democratic primaries. their win rate, their success rate, there is a strong appetite among democratic voters, specifically in the trump area, in response so donald trump, to get behind female candidates. on the one hand you have a female candidate. you have a bernie sanders candidate, a very interesting sort of clash there. >> and i have been talking to some prominent democrats, some 2020 democrats about the midterms and what they expect. there is some frustration with who the dcc has been endorsing and where they have been putting their money and whether they have been endorsing the women who are these upstarts, the women who have had all the momentum in these primaries and these special elections. >> right. there has been a battle of sorts happening between the progressive wing and the dccc. the progressive argue they have been slow to back some of the more, you know, grassroots candidates who are pulling energy on their side. i think the michigan gubernatorial primary that steve mentioned is a fascinating indication of that bernie versus hillary struggle which is so enduring because they do represent polar, you know, the ideological poles of the democratic party and the progressive wing of the emily's list backed candidate who vastly outraised one of her two opponents and the other one is backed by bernie sanders, backed by alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> welcome back from vacation. >> thank you, a good week to come back. >> we will talk to you tomorrow. whatever happens, what will happen, we 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it relates not to just conspiracy theories, the upcoming midterm elections and a reckoning of what happened in 2016. it's a confluence of several factors. >> we are seeing these companies getting more scrutiny today than they did before, after what happened in 2016 when so much fake, real actual fake news was spread on facebook and sites like twitter when there was division being created by these rune bots, who people looked towards those social media companies and no longer saw them as a place to connect with friends or families and share ideas but as a place that was potentially not just negative, but nefarious, a place intending to deceive and divide the american public in order to influence the election in a negative way or for one side or the other. because of that, is that why alex jones, who has been around for many years now, he has been saying this crazy stuff, he has been lying for many years now, is that why the intense pressure is on these companies to take people like him off? and after all, we should mention that the president has indirectly endorsed alex jones. he has gone on his radio show or his pod -- whatever it is, the youtube, podcast show, a youtube show. >> the live stream. >> thank you very much. and he's said what a wonderful man he is and how he appreciates the endorsement he gave him. >> yeah. this really is a moment for the tech industry, a reckoning, a coordination perhaps. apple taking much of the lead. tim cook has always done that in a way when it comes to major public issues, when it comes to the public debate. then we have mark zuckerberg following. however, alex jones is still very much active on twitter. he is still verified. he is still tweeting, putting out not just links to live streams, but this tweet that we want to share with you right now, he says they have been completely banned on facebook, apple, and spotify, and they are worried about what conservative outlet will be next. he tweets the one platform they can't ban is his own platform. so he's trying to drum up support there. but what we are seeing is a slight reckoning, but the issue really here is will these tech companies admit to being a media company? for so long it's been about the open public square and having it a place to have freedom of speech. now they are starting to see some of those society divisions really coming to fruition here. a lot of these top tech ceos and the executives that surround them are telling me they are thinking twice about what's bei going on. >> alex jones may want to lump himself into conservative outlets. he is a conspiracy theorist who has lied repeatedly. thank you so much for joining us today. >> thanks, katy. the president made a dangerous accusation over the weekend claiming journalists can cause war. it's not clear what he is referring to, but one can deduce he might be talking about a widely declaimed claim sarah huckabee sanders resurfaced last week. >> we fully support a free press, but there comes a high level of responsibility with that. one of the worst cases was the reporting on the u.s. ability to listen to osama bin laden's satellite phone in the late '90s. the country lost valuable intelligence. >> that claim was made in the best selling book then validated by the 9/11 commission and repeated by president george w. bush. here is the thing. it is not drew. bin laden's satellite phone was public knowledge for two years before he went off the grid in 1998. it was first vrevealed in 1996 y the taliban. the suggestion that we in the media caused bin laden to go dark is false. the president is trying to whip up his base. he is trying to blame the division and distrust he is creating on the people who are charged withholding him accountable. the president believes attacking us in the media is a political winner. for some the anger the president is fomenting is turning into actual threats. as i shared on friday, i have received them. again, i am not alone. the same day i shared my story, 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nearby apartment building, but the venezuelan government now says one of the drones was detonated near the presidential stage. the other drone fell into that apartment building. they now say of the six people arrested, one of them had an open arrest warrant for an attack on a military base in 2017. another had been arrested during anti-government protests in 2014. now, as you mentioned, nicolas maduro is blaming far right extremists and also the government of colombia and also saying that opponents here in the u.s. in south florida had helped finance the attack. now, for its part, the colombian government has denied any involvement. national security advisor john bolton has also denied any u.s. government involvement. a little known opposition group in venezuela called soldiers in t-shirts, it has claimed responsibility, although, katy, as you know, it's very difficult to know exactly what may have been behind this attack. opponents of the maduro government now say that they fear he will use this incident as a pretext for a harsher political crackdown. >> let's jump off and talk about that. why would there be distrust about this event and distrust that this was something not done by extremists looking to potentially kill or assassinate the president of venezuela but something done by the president himself in order to make it so that he's more popular with the people? >> well, i think what's pretty clear at this point is that this was an event, an attack, a couple of explosions that happened in pretty short order that, you know, really did startle the president and i did speak with some people who say in fact it was a couple of drones. talked to some folks in the neighborhood who said they saw the drone. they heard and felt the explosions, which were terrifying. certainly the maduro government has some credibility issues and likes to point the finger at other people for causing its problems in the country, but i think there's still a lot of confusion that certainly surrounds this incident. >> talk to me a little bit about what's going on here in this country. we heard scattered reports. on average -- people lost on average 24 pounds in body weight last year. that's how low the supply of food is in that country. the circumstances surrounding the plight of the people and how the government is responding to it, give me a picture of what it's like there right now. >> yeah, people are struggling. food is hard to find. medicine is difficult to find. inflation is soaring. the imf just came out with predictions that inflation this year alone are expected to top 1 million percent. and part of that is cash is very hard to find. so driving around caracas you'll see people getting a few cents out of their bank account and buying food. it's really difficult to buy food if you don't have access to money. this is a huge problem in venezuela. >> scott smith and gabe gutierrez, gentlemen, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up after the break, one more 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and there's only one man who can carry out this mission. >> imagine this arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons falling into the wrong hands. the pentagon never did. >> four minutes ahead of schedule, damn i'm good. >> now a team of terrorists have taken over. >> wake up the president. >> but there's just one thing they didn't count on. the cook. >> that's right. steven seagal. yes, that steven seagal, the cook. despite the fact that his action movies have been going straight to video since 1998, vladimir putin apparently believes seagal is the man for this mission. that he has enough star power to carry it out. the 66-year-old actor was named a special representative by russia's ministry of foreign affairs with the goal of bringing the two countries together in the, quote, humanitarian sphere. but it really should not come as a surprise. s seagal and putin are close friends and seagal has defended the russian government saying it's, quote, stupid to think moscow interfered in u.s. elections. seagal also became a russian citizen back in 2016. perhaps seagal will have more success in this role than he's had in hollywood over the past two decades. boom. that will wrap things up for me this hour. ali velshi picks things up right now. ali -- i'm sorry, it's kasie hunt. where's ali? it's kasie hunt! hi there, my friend. >> it's great to see you. i am kasie hunt. hey, it's all good. i am kasie hunt in for ali velshi. we begin with breaking news this hour in the trial of former trump campaign chairman paul manafort. the first trial in the special counsel's investigation. the prosecution's star witness,

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the restaurant offers a special percentage equal your age. good news is, turning 109, she got a free meal and the restaurant paid her the extra percent. $1.25. i'm ed henry. here's shep. >> shepard: it's noon on the west coast, 3:00 in new york. the trump organization's finance chief has immunity. the investigation into hush money payments to women. the head of the national inquirers also talking to the feds. now there's word that the tabloid had on stories that they caught for president trump before the election. the president firing the latest round with his own attorney general. jeff sessions is standing his ground in a new way for now. also -- hurricane sirens in hawaii. forecasters say the flooding is catastrophic. we're live in honolulu. let's get to it. handle the payment when it came to payment time. >> need to open a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend, david, so that -- i'm going to do that right away. i'm spoken to alan wiselberg about how to set the whole thing up with -- >> so what are we going to pay? >> yes. and -- all the stuff. because you never know where he's going to be -- so i'm all over that. i spoke to alan about it. when it comes time for the financing, which will be -- >> what financing? >> we'll have to pay -- >> pay cash? >> no, no, no. check? >> shepard: no, pay by check. remember, the president said he didn't know about the hush money payments in advance. his aide, hope hicks, said we know nothing of the payments. his spokespersons, raj shah and sarah sanders said that the president denied knowledge of the payments. A newscast reviewing and analyzing top stories of the day as they happen. to fill in the gaps. >> shepard: rebecca davis-o'brien, thank you. >> thank you. >> shepard: the trump organization could be facing another investigation. this time involving the president's former fixer and the payment to stormy daniels. "the new york times" reports these would be state charges. presidential pardons could not apply. laura ingle with the news. laura? >> shep, we could be looking at a domino effect stemming from michael cohen's guilty plea in the federal case with additional state charges. now, his federal guilty plea included breaking campaign finance laws with those payments to women that claimed to have a fairs with president trump before he took office. the manhattan district attorney is considering criminal charges against the trump organization and two senior company officials in connection to the hush money payments. the associated press reporting one of those senior officials might be alan wiselberg who allegedly reimbursed cohen for the stormy daniels payment through the trump organization marking it down as a legal expense. wiselberg's immunity deal is only for the federal case. this situation could lead to state charges. the a.p. also reporting that new york's attorney general has requested a criminal referral from the state tax department, which subpoena's cohen the day after he admitted to evading federal taxes. the question is if cohen evaded his state returns as well, shep. >> shepard: there's word that the national inquirer kept a lot of this damaging information. the details of the catch and kill stuff in one place, in one safe. >> in one safe. the a.p. is reporting this tabloid worthy headline that broke last night, we reached out to american media incorporated and their lawyers which owned the national inquirer. haven't heard anything back. this news coming after our sources confirmed to fox yesterday the federal prosecutors granted immunity to david pecker who as we know is a long-time friend of the president. according to the report, the inquirer kept this treasure trove of documents that detailed hush money payments from pecker. the ceo paying for the damaging stories about mr. trump and not publishing them in that practice that you mentioned catch and kill. the paperwork, another interesting part, was removed from the safe by pecker and the company's chief content officer just before mr. trump's inauguration according to the report. what happened to those documents is still unclear. >> shepard: laura engle in report. sad news now. you may have heard senator john mccain's family says he has decided to stop medical treatment for his brain cancer. the 81-year-old revealed that doctors had diagnosed him with an aggressive form of the disease. he's been at home in arizona since december. peter doocy live on capitol hill. peter? >> even while senator mccain has been in arizona getting better, he's been weighing in on the big issues with paper statements. this one came from the mccain family. part of it says that john has surpassed expectations for his survival but the progress of the disease and the advance of age render their verdict. with his strength of will, he has chosen to discontinue medical treatment. his daughter megan treated this. my family is appreciative of the love and generosity that you have shown us. thank you for your continued support and prayers. we couldn't have made it this far without you. one of mccain's republican colleagues, marco rubio wrote this. john mccain will finish the race the way he has done everything in his life. on his way and his terms. may god bless him as he competes his journey. sarah palin just wrote, this prayers for john mccain and his family at the most trying time. may comfort and peace envolope them. prominent democrats are celebrating mccain's decades of public service. madeline albright writes, i'm proud to call john mccain a friend and partner in the fight for human rights and democratic values around the world. may god bless him and his family as they continue this journey. john mccain has not voted in the senate since last december. before he left, he was upbeat about his prognosis while addressing colleagues. >> i have every intention of returning here and giving you cause to regret all the nice things you say about me. i hope to impress on you again, it's an honor to serve the american people in your company. thank you, fellow senators. >> over his decades working here, he's been here since 1986, he has developed a reputation into a maverick. shep? >> shepard: peter doocy on capitol hill. thank you. president trump firing back at his own attorney general yet again after jeff sessions said the justice department would not be influenced by political considerations. now there's new talk in washington about when sessions might not have a job anymore. that's coming up from the fox news deck on this friday afternoon. oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ ozempic® should not be the first medicine for treating diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not share needles or pens. don't reuse needles. do not take ozempic® if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to ozempic®. stop taking ozempic® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, itching, rash, or trouble breathing. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis. tell your doctor if you have diabetic retinopathy or vision changes. taking ozempic® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase the risk for low blood sugar. common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, and constipation. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. i discovered the potential with ozempic®. ♪ oh! oh! oh! ozempic®! ♪ (vo) ask your healthcare provider if ozempic® is right for you. >> shepard: as loyalists to president trump continue to flip and cooperate with the mueller investigation, president trump attacked his own attorney general, jeff sessions today, again. urging him to investigate the president's political opponents. justice department officials involved in the russia investigation. this is the latest in the escalating war between the two and comes after jeff sessions fires back at president trump following an interview the president did with "fox and friends" in which he criticized the a.g. in a statement, sessions said the department of justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations. the president repeated those words in a tweet adding, jeff, this is great. what everybody wants. so look into all the corruption on the other side, including deleted e-mails. comey, lies and leaks. mueller conflicts. mccabe, strzok, page, ohr. just yesterday the president and sessions met face to face at the white house. aides say they talked about reforming the criminal justice system. our chief intelligence officer catherine herridge has the news and live with more. catherine? >> in terms of telling a handful of republicans are talking about sometime after the mid-terms that senator graham that got this conversation started told fox last night that it's not about the russia investigation. he said it's not about special counsel robert mueller. he said it's about the relationship between the president and his attorney general that graham said had grown down. >> i hope the relationship gets better. if it doesn't, i would imagine the president is going to look for a new attorney general. because what's going on is unsustainable. i'm not blaming enough. i love jeff sessions. but from many i point of view, the country is not being well-served with this much friction. >> some of the republican leadership are not are the same page as senator graham. john cornyn said i know this is a difficult position for him, a reference to sessions, to be in, but it would be bad for the country, bad for the president and bad for the department of justice to be forced out under these circumstances. i hope he stays the course and i hope cooler heads prevail. also, a senior senate democrat said firing the doj leadership would have a ripple effect on the presidency. >> if the president were to take some abrupt action and try to force out or replace rod rosenstein or attorney general sessions or, of course, special counsel mueller, that would have grave consequences for the president's standing in this institution. >> republican senator chuck grassley is an important voice in this conversation as chair of the senate judiciary committee. he would handle any potential confirmation hearing and he has indicated that he has space on his calendar if that is required. >> shepard: it seems this is a matter of great thought as he went late into the night and began early this morning and attacked sessions more than once. >> right. so among the tweets, the president hit hard on what he describes as a double standard. he highlighted the case of national security agency contractor reality winter. reality winter received a stiff penalty for releasing information about russian hacking to a media outlet. the president said ex-nsa contractor to spend six months in jail, this is small potatoes to hillary clinton. double standard. it's important to know that there's more to the attorney general statement as well. it reads in part, i took over the department of justice the day after i was sworn in. that's why we've had sucks says in affecting the president's agenda. it protects the american people, reduces violent crime, enforces immigration laws and advances religious liberty. we checked in with the justice department earlier today and they're not expecting to issue anymore statements, shep. >> shepard: catherine herridge, live for us. hurricane lane barrelling toward the island of oahu. the storm is causing flash flooding, landslides and even a fire, a live report from honolulu next. 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it's not clear yet but the effects of the rain have been devastating. more than two feet of rain on the big island. here in honolulu, just beginning some deteriorating conditions. the police have been back here to try to get people off the beach, closing it down. that's not stopping the surfers. 3 to 4 feet waves out there. they're trying to squeeze what remains of the day. >> a lot of currents. it's pulling you. if you're not a good swimmer, stay out of the water. >> it's going to be fun. i understand the conditions. i'm excited. if it's dangerous, i'm out. it's going to be fun. >> even without a direct landfall, the results still could be catastrophic. it's a slow-moving storm. about 4 miles per hour. the head of fema has said this will be a real marathon here the next two to three days, shepard. >> shepard: what else have they told them to get ready for this, steve? >> well, shepard, it's tough because as an island, you can't just get in your car and drive away as you might do in florida. instead they told people to shelter in place. try to have supplies up to 14 days, food and water, to try to ride this out, shepard. >> shepard: steve harrigan in honolulu. thanks. the extreme weather center for a look ahead. rick reichmuth has a forecast for us. hi, rick. >> things are trending better from where we thought they would a day ago. you can look in the last 24 hours. the storm was looking better yesterday. encountering some of the shear and beginning to weaken and lose its structure. winds down to 105 miles an hour. a category two storm. radar, a little break on the east side of the big island. rain is coming back in and filling in again. the west side here, usually gets up two to three inches of rain. they're getting rain and wind with it. you get the idea. it's moving slowly and just the direction it's taking, all of the islands will get in on this. you'll notice the big island, down graded from hurricane warning to tropical storm warnings. winds not expected to be as bad there. still hurricane warnings for maui and oahu. and indications it will take a westerly turn and not make a direct landfall. the wind should not impact the island but it will get close. we'll see gusty winds around parts of maui and oahu. tonight, 2:00 a.m., that is 2:00 p.m. that's where it takes the big westerly jog. but sunday afternoon it's out of here. that said, a lot of rain to come from this. take a look. one computer model output here on the east side of the big island putting another foot of rain here the next few days. that means the flooding we're seeing will be exacerbated. the east side over towards kauai. the rain won't be out of here for another 36 hours. winds probably 50 to 60 miles an hour overnight tonight, especially tomorrow things improve a little bit. >> shepard: thanks, rick, in the weather center. thank you. watching this for you. columbus, ohio. it was there just a second ago. this is columbus, ohio. the john glenn international airport. there it is. air force one has arrived. the president will be getting off the plane. he and the first lady are set to land or have landed. will disembark in just a moment. we'll have updates for you from columbus and the columbus area coming right up. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. tell your doctor if these occur. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. other side effects include upper respiratory tract infection and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. flames out of its mouth. sparks from a nearby welding job set it on fire. shep will be right back. like new crabfest combo. your one chance to have new jumbo snow crab with tender dungeness crab. or try crab lover's dream. but hurry in. 'cause crabfest ends september 2nd. claritin-d relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure. claritin-d relieves more. >> shepard: a live look now at john glenn columbus international airport in ohio where president trump and the first lady have landed. there's the first lady on cue and the president himself on a windy day in ohio. there they are. the president set to visit a children's hospital with the first lady and the president is set to give a speech at a gop fund-raising dinner as they continue to come down. we're expecting good weather there and a bit of wind. the president being greeted by a crowd of well wishers on the ground. they'll be taken away for events of the day. the big news of the matter or the matter of intrigue is this. the highest ranking republican in the state of ohio won't be there. the governor, john kasich, ran against president trump and he has criticized the president since. a spokesman says that the governor, governor kasich, has a scheduling conflict. garrett tenney live in columbus. garrett? >> yeah, shep. the governor said earlier this week he would rather spend time with his daughter about to leave college than to attend this dinner with the president. governor kasich has repeatedly boycotted big events in his own state that the president attended going back to the republican national convention in cleveland. you'll remember, kasich was the last republican candidate to drop out of the presidential race. he's been a fierce critic of the president and his policies. that has led to a series of attacks from the president and his allies, including a blistering op-ed by the co-chair of the rnc that said kasich is jealous and has a pathetic need for attention after losing the nomination. kasich said those attacks don't bother him and he will continue to speak out on the direction he believes the country should be heading in. >> shepard: is he a 2020 candidate, john kasich? >> yeah, a lot of talk about that out there. it's notable that he's been asked if he is planning to run in 2020. every time he's asked, he doesn't really give a straight answer. his chief campaign strategist, john weaver, alluded to kasich's popularity in new hampshire. in an e-mail to supporters after that op-ed by the rnc co chair saying the president and his allies are threatened by the governor and know his message works. the governor's approval rating is 9 points higher than the president's in ohio. it's also worth noting that a quinnipiac pole in june that in his home state, governor kasich is polling higher than democrats and independents. he has very favorable numbers, shep. >> shepard: garrett tenney live for us. columbus, ohio. the president and the first lady make their way for events of the day. the california republican congressman duncan hunter is throwing his wife under the bus. appearing to blame her on this network as the two face charges of spending campaign cash on themselves. the feds say the couple used more than $250,000 of campaign funds on personal expenses including vacations, school tuition, theater tickets, fast food. last night congressman hunter told martha maccallum that his wife was in charge of the campaign and the finances. >> i gave her power of attorney when i went to iraq. she handled my finances throughout my military career and continued on into congress. i'm gone for five days and home for two. she was the campaign manager. so whatever she did, that will be looked at, too, i'm sure. but i didn't do it. >> shepard: wow. congressman duncan hunter and his wife pleaded not guilty to the charges. chief correspondent jonathan hunt is live in the los angeles newsroom. that was unexpected. that he would say don't look at me. if anything happened, it was she. >> yeah, pretty extraordinary. you heard him say his wife might have done something wrong. he admitted his campaign might have handled money badly but he insists he personally is not guilty of any wrong doing whatsoever. while the indictment paints a picture of a congressman that repeatedly put his hand in the campaign cookie jar, hunter said his only involvement was righting the wrongs when he found out about them. >> i wanted to get this out of the way and face it head on two years ago. so we did an audit. i paid back every dime plus. i didn't quibble on stuff. i paid a few thousand dollars extra. i paid back every dime that they say was not spent exactly according to campaign rules. that was done before the last election. i published it, went on tv. i showed people the audits. >> now, hunter and his wife, margaret, arrived and left court separately, not surprisingly, given that the congressman seems keen to throw margaret hunter under the bus, shep. >> shepard: what else are they learning about the feds say the congressman and his wife spent the money? >> the indictment depicts them as bing spent -- binge spenders because they couldn't afford things that they wanted like dinners and flying a pet bunny with the family. the congressman said this is about democrat-leaning prosecutors being out to get him. >> this is pure politics. the prosecutors can make an indictment read like a scandalous novel if they want to. they've had 1 1/2 years to do this. there's no way for me to talk to my people or get this done in court before my election. >> house speaker paul ryan has called the charges deeply serious. democratic leader nancy pelosi has said hunter should resign. in case you were wondering, shep, the cost of flying a rabbit, $600. >> shepard: thank you. with lawmakers often taking a break in the month of august, you'd think that the month would be kind of quiet, right? don't even. you're turning onto the street liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ until i held her. managing my type 2 diabetes wasn't my top priority. i found my tresiba® reason. now i'm doing more to lower my a1c. i take tresiba® once a day. tresiba® controls blood sugar for 24 hours for powerful a1c reduction. 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>> yeah. a $16 billion worth of new tariffs goes into effect. that's in addition to those announced in june. so this will impact automobiles, tractors, textiles, metals and energy products as well. the trade delegation from china that was in washington d.c., those talks have ended. no break through. more importantly when it comes to diplomacy, no follow up discussions being talked about at all. so sounds like there's no progress when it comes to trade especially when there's public hearings on the president's trump to tariff 25% on $20 billion of chinese-made goods. that could impact the consumer. there's well known names and products here. that includes apple watches could cost more. fit bits as well. there's no follow up discussions that have been announced. that's probably going to go into effect and might hurt the u.s. consumer's wallets. >> shepard: we're getting word of a potential deal with mexico? >> those discussions are ongoing and into next week. the deal is not done until it's done. although they say that it's imminent. at least they're making progress especially when it comes to autos and how much an automobile, part of nafta, how much that is made in north america and how much is made in mexico that is a big sticking point right now. obviously you need canada as part of this and mexico says you need three parties to be present to make a deal. >> shepard: working on it. >> yeah. >> shepard: thanks, susan. >> you too. >> shepard: the hotel that inspired "the shining" got an unexpected late-night visitor. it wasn't jack nicholson, either. too bad. lillian has details of what it did it get. what happened? >> this is a family hope tell in colorado. it was inspiration for "the shining" which was turned into a film with jack nicholson. it's rumored to be frequented by quite a few ghosts. yesterday they got a wilder visitor, this bear made his way through the lobby door, checked out this couch. he didn't destroy anything. they said everything was fine. moved around a bit. then he made his way out a back door. the hotel's vice president told local news that nobody -- all the guests were upstairs asleep. the only person that watched this is the one supervisor that bravely stuck around to film it. they posted this video to the hotel's facebook page and said that they were waving their normal policy about jumping on the furniture. >> shepard: no red rum though. >> no, not that i know of. >> shepard: we don't need red rum. too late in the day for that. good luck. last day for lillian. we'll miss you. >> thank you. >> shepard: we'll be back with a look at when a man first made breakfast better and it happened on this day in history. since my stroke, he hasn't left my side. with the right steps, 80% of recurrent ischemic strokes could be prevented. a bayer aspirin regimen is one step to help prevent another stroke. so, i'm doing all i can to stay in his life. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. your society was dearled by a woman, who governed thousands... commanded armies... yielded to no one. when i found you in my dna, i learned where my strength comes from. my name is courtney mckinney, and this is my ancestrydna story. now with 2 times more geographic detail than other dna tests. order your kit at ancestrydna.com she's also taking prescription ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor, which is for postmenopausal women with hormone receptor-positive her2- metastatic breast cancer as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole was significantly more effective at delaying disease progression versus letrozole. patients taking ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. before taking ibrance, tell your doctor if you have fever, chills, or other signs of infection, liver or kidney problems, are pregnant, breastfeeding, or plan to become pregnant. common side effects include low red blood cell and low platelet counts, infections, tiredness, nausea, sore mouth, abnormalities in liver blood tests, diarrhea, hair thinning or loss, vomiting, rash, and loss of appetite. alice calls it her new normal because a lot has changed, but a lot hasn't. ask your doctor about ibrance. the #1 prescribed fda-approved oral combination treatment for hr+/her2- mbc. >> shepard: on this day in 1869, a man from new york patented the first waffle iron. 1869. similar gadgets have been around since the 1300s. but this particular inventor, this one from new york, said he wanted to improve the design. he added a handle and a clasp. the whipped cream and cherries came later. so you could flip it without getting burned. 40 years later, general electric came out with the first electric waffle iron. it was the prototype for the ones that we use today. now anybody with whip up a fresh waffle after an inventor made breakfast easier 149 years ago today. it does not come with the chocolate. check out facebook watch for a fox news update. we do this every day shortly after 4:00 eastern time, 3:00 central time. about 3, 4, 5 minus cast depending on how long we want it to be with the more interesting stories of the day and a fresh look at updates for those on facebook in the afternoon. it's available online live streaming on your phone on the facebook app and later in your feed so you can watch it on demand. it's facebook watch from fox news channel every afternoon after 4:00 and every morning during "fox and friends" here from fox news channel. quick look at the stocks for the day. the dow has been in the green territory for much of the session and largely we're told this is due to word from the fed. the fed had indicated that it was probably going to continue to raise rates at .25 basis points per click. now they're saying the rate increases will be gradual. the markets like that. so the dow is up about half a percentage point on the day.

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means unlike public companies, the books aren't out there for the public to see. when federal prosecutors get someone to talk about them and grant them immunity, they can see all of it. jeff toobin, thank you. we are staying all over this breaking news. allen weisselberg granted immunity to talk and testify in front of a federal grand jury. we continue our coverage with "at this hour" right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello. i'm ryan nobles in today for kate bolduan. we begin with breaking news. what could be a disastrous development for president trump. sources telling cnn that federal prosecutors have granted immunity to allen weisselberg, the longtime cfo for the trump organization and someone who has been with the company for decades. kara is here to explain. this information just coming in. explain to us what you are reporting. >> "the wall street journal" is Kate Bolduan gives a fresh take on today's top stories. surpassed expectations for his survival. the progress of the disease and the advance of age render their verdict. with his usual strength of will, he has chosen to discontinue medical treatment. our family is grateful for the support and kindness of his caregivers over the last year and the outpouring of concern and affection from john's friends and associates and the thousands of people who are keeping them in their prayers, god bless. thank you all. certainly, a significant statement about the future of john mccain, the future of his health. notable, they note not only the aggressive form of cancer that he is suffering with but, of course, his age. that's playing in. he has not been up here on capitol hill for quite some time. he is, of course, while he is receiving treatment, at his home in arizona, chimed in from the sidelines, potentially sometimes writing tweets. his office, of course sending out statements to all the goings on. but it has not been some time which we have been seeing up here in the halls of congress, casting the vote one of his last votes that was decisive when he notably gave the thumbs down on the senate floor, casting the fate of that bill, certainly one of his last potential legacies up here on capitol hill. for the moment, many folks up here likely sending their support and love during, of course, what is an incredibly hard time for the family at this moment. >> no doubt. thank you for that breaking news that senator john mccain discontinuing treatment for an aggressive form of brain cancer. let's bring in dana bash who covered senator mccain for some time. she has been tracking his prognosis. your initial reaction to this news that senator mccain will no longer be receiving cancer treatment. >> ryan, this is a moment everybody knew would come. but it doesn't make it any easier. john mccain, his m.o. has been to be the fighter, and to not give up. this is -- everybody who has had a family member or friend or known who have had cancer, especially this kind of brain cancer that john mccain has, knows that this is just one that you can't beat. even john mccain has known that. he has been home. his happy place, his cabin for quite some time. he has been with his family. he has been looking out at the birds and the creek that runs through that for months and months. trying as much as he can to take in his -- what he knew, knows are his last months of life. the fact that he has chosen to terminate treatment tells you a lot about how aggressive this is. the john mccain we have known and loved and covered for so long -- when i say love, i mean people who have covered him for a long time and have had his wrath and his jokes and all of the above and even those who are his political enemies have come to love him and love him for this reason. but he doesn't give up. >> you mention the fact that he made this decision to discontinue treatment says a lot about what the future has in store for senator mccain. a few months ago, he was still patrolling the halls of capitol hill with that vigor he has had throughout his career. he and his family have been coy about exactly what his prognosis was. they promised he was working to get back to his job here on capitol hill. what does it say from your perspective about how engaged he has been about the big issues of the day? he may not be here in president but his presence has been large. >> no question. he has weighed in, obviously, with the help of staff and his family around on him on big issues and has made an impact even from afar. it's not the same and has not been the same without john mccain to put it bluntly in the face of people. that is how he has been so successful as a politician, as a length l legislator. the fact that he is so aggressive with what he believes. it has been hard with him home. my understanding is that at least until somewhat recently, he was given a schedule every day as senators get, as you know covering congress. they get a schedule of what they are doing every day. he had a schedule to keep him in the groove of everyday life. but it got harder and harder as he got sicker and sicker. look, not only is the disease something that is beyond horrible, the treatment for the disease is also something that always takes a toll. he had really aggressive treatment for a while. as the statement from his family says, at his age and given the disease he has, that matters. >> dana bash, thank you for weighing in. stick close. we will come back to you in a moment. let's go to david challion who covered senator mccain for a while. david, your reaction to this news about the next stage of john mccain's battle with cancer? >> well, you know, inevitable moment in this terrible disease that we all wish was never going to happen and yet we all knew that we would get some indication that this is the last year if indeed john mccain's voice was a part of it? time and again, somebody who ran his presidential campaign in 2008 under the slogan of country first and having an entire sort of life body of work supporting that slogan, what he would have been speaking to over the course of the last year, it is impossible not to wonder. on a day like this where you read this statement, your heart immediately goes to his family that he has come to this decision to no longer receive medical care. >> to your point, even though we haven't necessarily heard john mccain's voice, he has made it known through statements, still weighing in on some of the biggest issues of the day, despite battling this aggressive form of cancer, not left the political arena. we want to read for you a tweet from megan mccain, his daughter, who has been public about her father's struggles with cancer. she has been forced to be a spokesperson on behalf of john mccain when he has been attacked by president trump and others. my family is deeply appreciative of all the love and generosity you have shown us during this past year. thank you for all your continued support and prayers. we could not have made it this far without you. you have given us the strength to carry on. now we will go to wolf blitzer, a man who covered john mccain for a very extensive part of his career. wolf, you have obviously probably knew this news was coming at some point. it probably still has to come as a shock to hear someone like john mccain say he is stepping back from a fight like this. >> he has been a fighter his whole life. i have known him for at least 30 years. have interviewed him so many times, spent a lot of quality time with him over the years. simply, a great american, a great patriot, a wonderful politician. someone who is clearly a conservative republican but always ready to work with democrats on specific issues, especially national security issues. someone who is willing to spend an enormous amount of time learning about all of these issues. i watched him up close during many very sensitive moments, especially when he was running for president of the united states. he was always a gentleman. he was a maverick. he was someone who didn't necessarily always go along with the establishment. but he was someone who was so committed to doing the right thing for our country that his voice this past year occasionally, he would tweet, he would issue a statement, he would say something. but it was so, so missed here in washington. as you know, he is the chairman of the senate armed services committee. he believes in the military, the u.s. military. he was a p.o.w. for more than five years. it's a sad moment. i think we can all rejoice in remembering those wonderful times all of us had covering him, knowing him and seeing him in action. >> no doubt about that. of course, the last defense authorization bill just passed by congress has senator john mccain's name attached to it. wolf blitzer, thank you for your perspective. coming up, our other breaking news. federal prosecutors have now granted immunity to allen weisselberg, the longtime chief financial officer of the trump organization, and someone who has been with the company for decades. more on this breaking news and much more. stay here. you are watching cnn. on't want something like meningitis b getting in their way. meningococcal group b disease, or meningitis b, is real. bexsero is a vaccine to help prevent meningitis b in 10-25 year olds. even if meningitis b is uncommon, that's not a chance we're willing to take. meningitis b is different from the meningitis most teens were probably vaccinated against when younger. we're getting the word out against meningitis b. our teens are getting bexsero. bexsero should not be given if you had a severe allergic reaction after a previous dose. most common side effects are pain, redness or hardness at the injection site; muscle pain; fatigue; headache; nausea; and joint pain. bexsero may not protect all individuals. tell your healthcare professional if you're pregnant or if you have received any other meningitis b vaccines. ask your healthcare professional about the risks and benefits of bexsero and if vaccination with bexsero is right for your teen. moms, we can't wait. ♪ ...to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. i'll take that. 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>> what's most important is for us to learn when the immunity deal was offered and as to what it pertained. if it was offered before the cohen plea and it was only to gather the information necessary to secure cohen's plea and perspective cooperation, then it's pretty ring fenced. if it was more recently granted or it's ongoing and it relates to the broader trump organization, its financial dealings and the trump foundation under inquarrkwainqu just don't know where it's going to go. >> there's a chance that his cooperation with the federal government is over with. with a specific goal of this michael cohen indict money amen conviction. >> when you decide to cooperation, it's never really over. they can always come back to you. michael is right, the timing is critical. it sounds like both pecker as well as wieseisselberg -- it sos like it's likely that those arrangements were done quite a while earlier. that may have caused cohen to have to plea because the walls closed in on him. game of musical chairs. he was the last guy left standing. in terms of the continuing information, once you go down this road of cooperating, you have to keep going with it. for all we know, they have gotten other information that hasn't been public yet. >> let's go over this. first michael cohen known as the president's fixer. one of the most loyal deputies of president trump. he flips. david pecker, "national enquirer," he has taken an immunity deal, presumably also to flip. now allen weisselberg, who is mentioned on that secret tape that michael cohen took of president trump talking about the payments. what must be going through the mind of president trump right now to see three of these people who he thought were loyal to him now turning and cooperating with the government? >> i certainly can't guess what's in president trump's mind. he can't be happy to have all of these people who he was very close with -- these were very close associates and people that worked for him for years. to have this happen, he can't be happy with it. i always think when things like this happen, it's almost -- there's the question of what actually took place and then there's, what is going to be president trump's response? because that can be very important as well. it might not -- the significance of weisselberg cooperating, that's one thing. but the question is, how does president trump response? does he do anything extreme ? >> his tact up until this point has been to try and -- to essentially rewrite history with some of the relationships. he suggested paul manafort was not involved in the campaign when he served as campaign chairman. michael cohen was a junior lawyer on his staff and never dealt with big deals. is it more difficult to continue to distance himself from these people that were in his orbit? >> when you have the cfo -- he worked for the trump organization for decades. it's going to be hard to disassociate himself from him. >> i wonder how much of this for president trump is a political argument versus a legal argument. it seems le s clear the special counsel will not try to indict a sitting president. does this come back to whether the congress can get the support of the american people to move forward with something as dramatic as impeachment? >> we have a couple of things going on. we have a state prosecution or a state of new york investigation of the trump foundation and related matters. we have the southern district of new york investigating cohen. then we have mueller investigating the collusion and related matters. only mueller has an obligation to file a report on his findings with the deputy attorney general. it's a confidential report. but the deputy attorney general can release it. that's really the political aspect of this. the southern district of new york and the new york state prosecutors, they're going to indict or not indict. they're not going to issue any report. as things drip out, as more people get implicated in criminal behavior, then perhaps it's an inflection point with the trump supporters. we saw on reporting earlier that they said -- these spoupporters said if he begins pardoning people, that might change our point of view. if we see evidence of collusion. if we see additional indictments of people who surround trump, that may change our point of view. that's how it plays out in some respects mr s politically. >> we have to go. thank you for your expertise. back to our other big breaking news from today. john mccain, the one-time republic republican nominee for president, he is discontinuing treatment. cindy mccain tweeting, i love my husband with all my heart. god bless everyone who cared for my husband along this journey. joining us now, dr. sanjay gupta for more on the next stage for senator mccain. sanjay, just essentially from a medical perspective, explain what this means for senator mccain that he decided to forgo further treatment for his aggressive form of brain cancer. >> well, it's obviously -- it's tough news. we know that he has been dealing with this since last summer, since july of last year. he had an operation at that time. he has been undergoing therapy. typically, that's chemotherapy and radiation. it can be tough. it can be very hard to go through this therapy. the goal is to try and combat the cancer cells in the brain. what it sounds like has happened is that at some point -- always you are making a risk/benefit analysis. how much benefit am i getting for this given the toll that this therapy is taking on my body? it sounds like where he says, the risk is no longer outweighing the benefit. it's tough. it's a tough thing, this type of tumor, as you know, as a lot of people who have been following senator mccain's story know, the average survival is 14 months. right now we had 13 months since he was diagnosed. >> we saw vice-president biden's son go through it. he was a younger man. the family said the age was part of the decision making process. explain -- you touched on it a little bit -- how vigorous the treatment is and how difficult it is on the body. >> this type of tumor is a gdm. it's an aggressive form of brain cancer. it's a cancer that forms within the brain itself as opposed to spreading from somewhere else in the body to the brain. the type of treatment typically, as was the case with senator mccain, he had an operation first to remove this what they thought was a blood collection. during that operation, they found this was a brain tumor. then after that, the types of treatments that are what are called conventional treatments are usually a combination of chemotherapy, which is a medication that's given into the body basically chemicals that try to kill the tumor cells and radiation directly to the brain. a lot of people are familiar with these types of therapies. theyhe body. it has a toxic affect on other parts of the body. it's hard. he is tough as nails as everyone knows about senator mccain. but his age probably does play a role here as well. you may remember going back before beau biden was ted kennedy. he was younger than senator mccain, but sort of went through the same thing. survived and had 14 months of survival after his diagnosis. >> the next stage is some form of hospice care. what would that entail? just doing everything they can to make him comfortable? >> yeah. i don't know what stage -- given he has made this decision that the risks and the toll of the therapy are really no longer outweighing the benefits, i don't know -- that doesn't necessarily mean he is at the stage of hospice care. this could be a decision point he has made at this point, not indicating something like he needs to be this hospice or whether that's home hospice or something like that. yes, to your question, at that stage, when it happens or if it happened, it's about providing comfort. that can take all sorts of different -- that can mean all sorts of different things. it may be within the home. it may involve things around pain control. it may involve just making sure that he is comfortable in all sorts of ways. again, i'm going to be careful. i don't know that that's the stage where he is. just because this decision has been made probably in conjunction with his doctors, obviously his family, i think we just don't know if he is at that stage yet. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you for putting that in perspective for us. more after this quick break. you are watching cnn. when you start sleeping on a tempur-pedic, the difference you feel is night... and day. you fall asleep cooler. stay asleep longer. and wake up feeling better than ever. that's the tempur-pedic difference. experience the most highly recommended bed in america.* during our labor day sales event, purchase a tempur luxe, elite, or breeze mattress and enjoy up to $550 off. or get a free adjustable base upgrade. find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic.com. but if something happened to you... you need life insurance! and chances are selectquote can get it for you for under a dollar a day. selectquote found michael, 38, a $500,000 policy for under $23 a month. selectquote found anna, 37, a $750,000 policy for under $23 a month. selectquote's secret? 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>> good to be with you. >> sorry about that. >> no problem. >> the reason we had you on today was because of the tweet that you posted this week about impeachment. i wonder now with the news that yet another member of the trump inner circle has cut a deal with federal prosecutors, if that continues to emphasize or to reinforce your position on this. explain why you decided it's come to that point for lawmakers. >> look, i think's impeachment inquiry is becoming inevitable. it's important that elected officials acknowledge that on both sides of the aisle and speak openly about it. here is why. we know now that the president both lied about as well as admitted to participating with michael cohen in an activity that a federal court has just entered into judgement as a behavior is a crime. this is different than the john edwards scenario. what happened in michael cohen's plea deal is a federal judge accepted his plea to criminal activity. it's criminal activity not only that cohen alleged was also tied to the president but that the president, within 24 hours went on the news and said, yes, i did participate in this. the president likes to say it's not a crime. but a judge just did. if that's not enough to open an know what's it's going to take unless we see his loyalists drop and turn on him. >> many of your republican colleagues disagree. even many democrats do as well. the current democratic leader nancy pelosi has warned her democratic colleagues about taking this step. obviously, there's a political calculation involved here. at what point does this conversation need to become real for lawmakers? >> look, i think it's purely a political calculation. i think dccc is looking at poll numbers. they have recognized it's easier to speak against corruption going into november than specifically about impeachment. when you talk specifically about impeachment, you do have to justify it. corruption is an easier message. i would say, this is a moment where democrats need to be -- stand and be counted, if you will. as democratic senators are currently saying that the president is too compromised to nominate a supreme court justice and therefore the kavanaugh should be delayed, how you can make that argument and not also suggest he is so compromised we should be open to talking about the initiation of an impeachment inquiry? >> let's say democrats are able to win back the house in the fall. in order for the president to be removed from office, even if he is impeached would require conviction in the senate. the map does not welcome as favorable for democrats on that side. it's going to take republicans standing up with a voice similar to yours if this is possible. frankly, sir, there aren't a lot of republicans who are saying the same things that you are. even if privately they may have concerns about president trump. >> i was on capitol hill during the bill clinton impeachment. there are a lot of parallels here. should democrats take the house, i believe they will open inqui inquiry. to your point, i don't believe the votes are in the senate. we are talking about six months from now. the reality is, michael flynn's sentencing has been delayed because he is continuing to coopera cooperate. trump's cfo is cooperating. michael cohen, his loyalists are beginning to turn on him. i believe trump is going to fire jeff sessions. the walls will begin to crack within the republican caucus and the senate. we will see how this plays out. the first step in this i do believe congress, republicans won't do it but democrats should be honest about it and say, it's time to open an inqui inquiry. >> you mention poll numbers. one of the reasons democrats seem reluctant, to a certain extent it's important to listen to the voice of their constituents. i was in ohio a couple of weeks ago for the special election there. i talked to a lot of voters. they did not seem that focused on the russia investigation. where is the balance here? the voters should have a say in this, right? >> i love that question. here is consider. you are right, the russia investigation is probably not going to be mentioned in this race. the cohen matter is very different. this is a president who has lied and been implicated in a crime. one of my colleagues in congress, a very good friend taught me that in politics, you are either a leading indicator or a lagging indicator. too often the majority of politicians follow the polls because to your point, there is merit in following where the voters currently are. there are few people -- on a day where we talk about john mccain, he is one of them, who are willing to stand up and be a leading indicator and say to voters, i believe this is where we need to go. i'm asking you to follow me. i want to see voices begin to say, it's time we talk about impeachment. i'm asking you to come with me. i think there are enough american people that even in november, would say i'm with you on that. >> let me ask you about senator mccain. back in may, you called him a remarkable american hero, a man who your party should emulate. what are your thoughts about him right now? this is someone you served with in congress. you must have a heavy heart right now. >> i do. in a town too often filled with cowardice, this was a man with courage. he was the real deal. it's important that we recognize his leadership, whether you agreed with him or not. this is someone who spoke to his own convictions, not to the politics of convenience. he will likely forever be remembered for that visual of the thumbs down on the obamacare repeal, having been the former nominee of the republican party. i also think -- not to take anything away from john mccain on this day, but we have to recognize that his candidacy was a departure point for the republican party where they chose to go a different way. they chose to double down on a hard line sarah palin conservative that later embraced donald trump. the party has gone a different direction. it's a sad decision the party made. it's a sad day for the country. certainly, a sorrowful day for the mccain family. we all wish him god's blessings. >> congressman jolly, we appreciate you responding to some of the breaking news stories. we appreciate your perspective. thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you. the top leaders in the united states senate now reacting to the news of senator john mccain deciding not to continue his treatment for brain cancer. we will have that when we come back. where people go to learn about their medicare options before they're on medicare. come on in. you're turning 65 soon? 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>> evan perez and i have been told by sources that allen weisselberg was granted immunity for his testimony by the u.s. attorney's office in manhattan who's investigating michael cohen. we understand he was interviewed weeks ago, questioned about the payments made by michael cohen, reimbursed by the president. he's not been called back since. the u.s. attorney's office has given weisselberg immunity. they discussed with him these payments to michael cohen. >> all right, kara. thank you for that. joining me now, defense attorney and former federal prosecutor shan wu. just quickly, it seems from what kara is reporting that this seems to be a pretty narrow scope that allen weisselberg is involved in. >> there is. there's a question as to when he was granted the immunity. we can safely assume there's been a lot of interviewing that's already gone on. so we don't know the full scope of what he may have given already to the prosecutors. i think importantly, too, we hear so much talk about trump's strategy being all political, geared towards public opinion and impeachment. he's got to remember the legal strategy matters. if he ends up on trial in the senate, it's not going to be like a campaign rally in pennsylvania. the legal strategy, his credibility, all that is going to matter. right now his team is in disarray in terms of the strategy. >> and does it mean that if allen weisselberg has already agreed to cooperate on some level, even if he hasn't called back, that doesn't mean he couldn't be called back in the future, right? >> absolutely. cooperation is like a pregnancy. you can't be just a little bit pregnant. >> you're all in. >> that's right. >> all right. shan wu, thank you for joining me. i appreciate it. thank you for joining me today. a lot of busy breaking news today, as always. i appreciate you tuning in. we're going to go to "inside politics" with nia-malika henderson. that starts in just a minute.

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