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introducing a debate like this would be controversial, wouldn't you think? >> yeah but he's got the background. this guy had been nothing but straight down the line promoting what most people in the publication believe so he thought he had a space, some grace, to suggest a debate within the confines of that publication. clearly the readers did not believe so. >> now, paul, don't you think though that it's the job of a magazine to kind of challenge the readers a little bit and push things a little bit? >> i was wondering whether "guns and ammo" is the best place to have a debate about gun control or the worst place. as it turns out it's the worst place. and they learned a harsh lesson on that. >> all right. well thanks a lot for joining us. ahead on "reliable sources," the ugly side of sports. a miami dolphins player says a teammate bullied him putting the spotlight on rookie hazing. did sports reporters miss a story under their noses for

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so then i as a viewer can determine whether or not what you presented to me was influenced by that payment. i should know. it should be on the table that this was paid for. as long as it's not on the table and we don't know it, it calls into question what really went on here and what do we know is truth. >> thanks a lot. i'll ask you guys to stick around for the next segment where we talk about a new subject. next, the magazine "guns and ammo" fires a longtime editor and writer after publishing an article calling for mandatory training for gun owners. did the second amendment trump the snirs comes back, i'm not ha. use ups. they make returns easy. unhappy customer becomes happy customer. then, repeat customer. easy returns, i'm happy. repeat customers, i'm happy. sales go up, i'm happy. i ordered another pair.

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back to "hardball." time now for the sideshow. "time" magazine's latest cover featuring new jersey governor chris christie has caused some controversy this week. critics say the idiom they used, the elephant in the room, unfairly pokes fun at christie's weight. whether you think it's offensive or not, the "tonight show's" jay leno proved last night it could have been a lot worse. >> but in their defense, i think they chose the least offensive title. take a look. here's one they had. chris christie having a whale of a time. i didn't like that one. then between a rock and a lard place. that's not good. and hail to the chef. yeah, i don't think any of those. so i don't think any of those were good. >> up next, it was a single page in the latest issue of "guns and ammo" and it ignited a fire storm among the magazine's readers. in an op-ed titled "let's talk about limits" an innocuous case

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critics say the idiom they used, the elephant in the room, unfairly pokes fun at christie's weight. the tonight show's jay leno proved last night it could have been a lot worse. >> but in their defense, i think they chose the least offensive title. here's the other oning they had. chris christie having a whale of a time. i didn't like that one. then between a rock and a lard place. that's not good. and hail to the chef. yeah, i don't think any of those. so i don't think any of those were good. >> up next, it was a single page in the latest issue of "guns and ammo" and it ignited a fire storm among the magazine's readers. in an of about let's talk limits, they talked about some gun regulations. the outcry was swifter more than ever. threats of boycott flooded the page like this. quote, guns and ammo printing

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131108:20:27:00

essentially the proof is in the pudding. a writer for "guns and ammo" has been fired for shooting his mouth off in favor of gun control. they have the right to bear arms but don't have the right to use them irresponsibleably, that drew a huge backlash, so much so that the editor is stepping down. the writer said he was only trying to encourage a healthy exchange of ideas. clearly that was a misfire. >> indeed. >> and 25 years ago today, the life of one former cyclist was changed forever when this happened. >> just a few minutes ago, i called vice president bush and congratulated him on his victory. i want to -- and i know i speak for all of you and for all of the american people when i say that he will be our president, and we'll work with him.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131108:19:56:00

i'm stepping down. it is their own space. this isn't a first amendment issue for them. the fact that the second amendment issue crossed this tiny little line and prompted that reaction, you're right is startling. >> this is where you say this would never happen in the atlantic. >> of course it would not. >> thank you so much. have a good weekend. >> what does your gut tell you? do you think dick metcalf should have been fired for his column in "guns and ammo", logon to newsnation.msnbc..com. the cycle, all four of them standing by, chomping at the bit to take over. well, three of them are chomping, one is sleeping. avo: the volkswagen "sign then drive" sales event is back. which means it's never been easier to get a new passat, awarded j.d. power's most appealing midsize car, two years in a row. and right now you can drive one home for practically just your signature.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131108:19:53:00

man. >> that's my favorite part of the call. holler, man. those are a few things we thought you should know on a friday. time for the news nation gut check. an article in the latest issue of "guns and ammo", has resulted in search a backlash, that the editor is stepping down after firing the guy who wrote the piece. the column was written by dick metcalfe, wrote about his take on the second amendment, saying too many gun owners still seem to believe any regulation of the right to bear and keep arms is an infringement. all constitutional rights are regulated. and need to be. guns and ammo editor is now apologizing to furious readers and also announced that he has fired metcalf and stepping down himself. joining me now, staff writer for the atlantic, covering this story. fires dick metcalf and said the

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