griff: i'm in the juan seat in washington. i'm proudly here, jed. pete: as you are. jedediah: pete, use those as a little nap area. if you don't have a segment, i don't see why the pillows can't be made to good use. pete: good point. in the first segment, in on honor of you i will take a nap. griff: no sleeping. there is too much news. pete: we start with a fox news alert. chaos in our country. violent clashes erupting across the nation. [gunfire] pete: one person is killed after gunshots ring out at a black lives matter protest turned riot in austin, texas. police declaring officially a riot, after this youth jail construction site is torched. griff: rioters clashing with police, throwing bottles at officers. 21 cops hurt. 45 people arrested. meanwhile portland seeing 59th straight day of unrest. protesters bring down a federal courthouse fence. rioters setting an american flag on fire, watching it go up in flames. jedediah: protests take a violent turn in richmond, virginia. police declaring an unlawful assembly as they set a dump truck on fire outside after police headquarters. in aurora, colorado, hours after a jeep drives through a crowd on an interstate. protesters reportedly shot at the driver injuring two people. this is crazy, what we're seeing emerge around the country right now. look how many cities we're talking about now. austin, texas, aurora, colorado. richmond virginia. this seems to be expanding. i think about the fact that federal authorities have to be in the locality toss to protect federal property. you know what, if local politicians are fighting get federal authorities out. what would they do if they had actually had to do the job? is there a argument made if you don't want the help, let federal authorities leave. do you want to be held accountable if the cities go up in flames. they don't want federal authorities here. you guys are agitating the situation. you're the reason this is happening. griff: they can't do that. that is the whole point, right, jed? there is obligation on behalf of law enforcement. mark morgan the acting cbp commissioner yesterday, they're required by law to protect federal property. that is why under 40 u.s. code 1315 they're allowed to do so, to make arrests connected to threats to that property. in the mark hatfield courthouse they have tried to burn down literally night after night. why this has escalated. there were chants i herd, i read, we are with portland, coming from what we saw in richmond last night. pete. pete: griff, you are correct. you capital how courthouses federal property to be defaced without creating a slippery slope. jed, i'm tempted by your perspective. if this is what you want in your city. if you can't control it. if you created such a toxic environment in these democrat-run cities, deal with it yourself. you created this mess, ultimately the feds shouldn't be your punching bag and an cues for excuse for the anarchy in these streets, the mayors are cone conveniently saying, if the president hadn't federal law enforcement officers to protect the courts whos we wouldn't have the violence which is a fake, false argument. with these images. it draws, we'll talk a little bit about the biden campaign and a memo they put out at the 100 day mark until the election. it provides the contrast, do you want to burn america down or rebuild it? do you believe we can move past this? is this what you're going to see in the future going forward. feels like repeat, guys. we wake up every morning. where were the riots. where were the explosions, where were people attacked and happens next? griff: let me tell you though, there is a, event today. it is because of portland, you're having rallies here in d.c. pete, you are here. national guard protecting monuments. now we'll have a rally today. a group called shut down d.c. one of the activists groups are planning on going to acting dhs secretary chad wolf's house, big poster on social media, rally at chad wolf's house. the department of homeland security, and was deployed to portland last week. unidentify federal agents kidnapped protesters. violently attacked. we're asking for a rally at chad wolf's to demand trump's troops to be removed from every city. every person detained by cbp to be freed. we'll have ken cuccinelli, acting deputy dhs secretary on 7:30. word of advice for the fellow protesters. fine to exercise your first amendment right. that is the point all along since this all began two months ago. here is the deal, when you go after, if you infringe on the security after sitting u.s. secretary, you had better be willing to accept the consequences that will come because they will not, in any way, tolerate violence against a sying member of the cabinet. jedediah: yeah. can you just, look at these photos. people, look at these images. you've been talking for a long time about calling these riots and not protests. does this at any normal person who is sitting at home looking at this, does this look like just a protest at this point? i mean things are going up in flames, being set on fire, the violence? it looks like a war zone in a lot of these cities. let's be really honest what is going on now. this is not a peaceful protest you have federal authorities coming in and disrupting. this is craziness. this is terrifying if you live in one of these cities. that is why they're there. they have no choice. they don't know what to do to contain the situation. anyone saying this is peaceful protest at this point? this is laughable. look at imagery we're showing. pete: explosive devices thrown at police. that is straight out of the marxist playbook. attempt to es can late in the manner and through intimidation hope things change in your direction. griff, you're right, it won't work. it is a next level thing. we'll protest an individual where they live at their home with their family, which crosses yet another line. they don't care about crossing lines. griff: jed, a great point about imagery. yesterday i was watching in selma, alabama, the flag draped coffin of the late civil rights icon john lewis. they were playing "america the beautiful" in the service. i watched it while making dinner. struck me here is one of the country's great civil rights icons fought non-violently for change in country he continues to believe. in portland, they do not believe america. they actually hate it and don't believe in its greatness. talking about greats that we have lost, regis philbin a legend in television saturday. the world pointing out their sympathy. kathy griffin, appointmenting there is no words that i have to express my precious love for regis. we tradition and friendship we share up to this very day. i smile no somewhere in heaven he is making someone laugh. that he had a personal relationship with his lord that brought him great peace. i send all my love, in my heart to joy, his children, the rest of his family, to the innumerable people he touched in his legendary life. there is nobody like him and there never will be. jed. jedediah: regis philbin was one of my favorite people to watch on tv. he did television the way television should be done. he was warm, real, made you laugh. when times were tough out in the world, you could turn any show he is on, he would make you feel better. he would make you feel good inside. i watched him with "reg guys and kelly" at the time. it was best morning tv. you feel like a break from the hardness of the world. he was a fantastic host of television. sitting own the church very couch. we have a flashback, of our very own brian kilmeade having exchange with regis. >> how many times a day can you see this side. >> there is a chance you will be shooting in our building. that means we'll get in the line so thal together, get a big salad, see each other in the hall. how should i act? should i ignore you. >> you should call me mr. regis. >> mr. regis. would you answer or probably won't? >> only to mr. regis. say good-bye to mr. regis. >> say good-bye to, mr. regis. jedediah: that is great exchange. if you talk to people who knew him. i didn't have the honor knowing him. people say he was that guy. you see people on tv, they were not that way on tv. he was funny, charming a regular guy who happened to make it in tv. he wanted your house to feel like a warm, amazing place. that is pretty cool. we'll have a few special guests. brian kilmeade will be on the show. dean cain will want to share memories of regis philbin. he was filling your homes with laughter and lightness like mine throughout the years. it will be a great tribute. pete: i didn't know him. seems like a good dude. it came across the screen. why people expected to him. griff: rest in peace indeed. downgraded to a tropical storm after battering southern texas. hannah had landfall slamming the state with 90 mile-an-hour winds and heavy rains. governor greg abbott declaring an emergency in 32 counties. torrential rain completely submerged a baseball field in water. wow, look at. that forecasters predict more flooding today. meanwhile hawaii bracing for impact as hurricane douglas inch muchs closer to the coastline this morning. coronavirus cases topped 16 million worldwide. u.s. recording more than 1000 deaths for the fifth straight day, leading the world with 146,000 deaths and more than 4 million cases. florida, passing new york as the states with the second highest infection rate. reporting 12,000 cases yesterday. california remains the most infected with 446,000 cases. moving trucks spotted at u.s. consulate in shin dust. overnight as china demands its closure. the united states emblem removed from the front of the building as staff quickly packs up. hundreds gathering outside to see the move. days after the u.s. shut down china's consulate in houston. president trump hitting the links with brett favre. they played at trump national golf club in bed minister, new jersey. they talked about the how sports can reopen the economy. he they hit the course as president trump attended a fund-raiser at the club. those are the headlines. the president and brett favre. pete: that is golfing duo i'm jealous of. there is no doubt about that. jedediah: still ahead, all eyes on capitol hill where senate republicans are expected to release the coronavirus relief bill tomorrow. the extra weekly 600-dollar unemployment checks end today unless congress acts. peter more ricci on the four things he expects to see. don't miss it coming up next. th. this is unlimited built right. car vending machines and buying a car 100% online.vented now we've created a brand new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old, we want to buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate, answer a few questions, and our techno-wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot, and pick up your car. that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way-- at carvana. apps except work.rywhere... why is that? 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>> how many restaurants do you think are going to be reopening on monday morning in portland after tonight? if you're -- pete: it is a fair point. >> there are awful lot of places right now where businesses simply can't reopen. and, the northern cities are good example. but there is also other places where the viruses are such that even if you don't have lockdowns, the foot being traffic is not there. we have tracking data in this crisis we didn't have in the financial crisis. are people making reservations through the apps? we have weekly tracking data on hiring which we didn't have in the last crises. they all show in the last few weeks the economy turning down. so my feeling is to say they are not taking jobs because they're getting the benefits is silly. but we can scale them back so people aren't being paid more to be unemployed than they were before. this is not a her cue lien task and i think it is being demagogued on both side. nancy wants to give everybody more than they earn through february. more free money from the democrats. the republicans are playing to the base, saying we don't want any freeloaders. reality, a, it is needed, time to compromise to get it done. pete: how about liability protection for businesses that open, is that in there? >> i would think it will be the senate bill and democrats will have to go along. you will not get mitch mcconnell to approve something without it. and he is probably going to have to pay for that with a little more in unemployment benefits than he would like. each will have to pay for the something for something dear to them. that's washington. pete: that is how it works. you're absolutely right. a study came out reveals seven in 10 americans buy from small businesses intentionally to support them during covid-19. how is this impacting the economy? >> i think it's a positive thing to do because a lot of small businesses just don't have the volume to stay open and they're frankly out of cash. we have businesses closing every day where i live. that will never reopen again. so my feeling is, if people can steer their spending towards these small businesses, they're doing themselves a favor. after all, they do want the storefronts occupied, you know, come this time next year the virus will behind us. we'll have the vaccine. everybody will be immune, all that business. we want to have a vibrant economy when we return. reporter: peter, i hope you are correct. may you be. thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. still ahead, we flatten the curve. now time to flatten the fear. that is from doctors across the country in support of getting teachers and kids back into the classrooms this fall. more on a petition to push for that coming up next. usaa insurance payments over the next twelve months so they can keep more cash in your pockets for when it matters most find out more at usaa.com you should switch it to tracfone wireless to get more control over your wireless plan. they give you unlimited carryover data-- you pay for your data, you keep really? 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jedediah: that's something, griff. flatten the fear. that's the name of the campaign backed by 1500 doctors to reopen schools. they signed a petition in support of getting teachers and kids back inside of classrooms this fall. the job creators network foundation launched the initiative saying in part the risks of reopening schools for non-adolescent children are low while the reward, scholastic, social, economic are significant. joining us is president and ceo of the job creators network, white house hispanic prosperity commissioner alfredo ortiz. welcome to the show as always. it is great to have you here on have a very important topic. talk to us about this petition signed by a number of physicians, what it says, and where you think this whole conversation is moving? >> jed, thanks so much. by the way we're up to just under 2,000 signatures already, and that list continues to grow. unfortunately, parents, teachers and students are really caught in the crossfire of an election season, of a presidential election season between republicans and democrats. they're having it out, unfortunately like i said, parents, teachers, students, especially students here are going to be hurt. we're very concerned about that. that is why we asked, put this petition out there, we are getting this kind of response which is amazing. you actually come from a family of teachers. you yourself i believe were a teacher. you know that teachers are saints in terms of the patience needed to teach kids. you know, parents are stressed, first of all, to know end in terms of what they can do to teach their kids at home, not, just because you're a great parent doesn't make you a great teacher. we're concerned about the level and quality of teaching that really is taking place in this home, you know, in-home learning environment and when you think about the negative social and economic impact that it is having on our families, especially quite frankly, lower income, lower income households, this is tremendous, tremendous issue. i have to tell you, jed, this is actually very personal for me. i came from one of those lower household incomes when i was a kid. i have to tell you the saddest part of my day when that bell rang at the end of the day. i had to go back to a dad that frankly wasn't the nicest dad own the planet. school for me was my safety zone t was also a way of creating community. what we're taking away from our kids, especially in this what the petition is about, especially area, social development aspects of going to school an learning there is so, so critical. we're taking that away from our kids. that is why again we put this petition out, and we're getting the kind of response, positive response. by the way this is also supported with science. science is on our side on this jed. we got first of all cdc making a recommendation already. go ahead. sorry. jedediah: i grew up in a house where both parents had to work. there wasn't really another financial option. so i don't know what would have happened to a child like me in a situation like this. it would have been really, really scary for my parents to figure that out. one of the concerns parents have, what will this look like? they're scared sending them to environment where kids are in masks all day. where they are in a bubble. healthy interaction in schools doesn't exist. is that something you can speak to at all? >> jed, there is a study been done with 15 different countries that already sent their kids back to school. absolutely, the classrooms will look different, we know that, because of social distancing, because of the different precautions have to take place. it will look different. look, you talk aabout masks. make the masks fun. create projects. make them superheroes. why do they have be black and blue masks like you're in a hospital? do outdoor learning. this is great opportunity to use outdoors as classrooms. you don't necessarily have to stay in the classroom. expand that out. we're talking about the case rate specifically. they're the ones really, really desperately need social development. high schoolers they have a little more opportunity, a little more independence. my focus is the case rate. teachers, you know, we're saying is, please, speak out, speak up, stand up because we know, as you were as a teacher in the past, you love your kids, right? you love your children. you know this is the right thing to do. jedediah: yeah. >> let's not let this political nightmare traching -- taking place in the election season be the reason why our kids are hurting today. jedediah: thanks so much. you bring up an important point of teachers and schools need to think out of box. by the way have a spider-man mask. i'm ahead of the game. we appreciate it. >> hartley's birthday in november. happy pre-birthday. jedediah: yes. thanks so much. appreciate it. appreciate it so much. >> thanks, jed. bye-bye. jedediah: as violent new protests spread across the country, lawrence jones is hosting a new special called one nation. he will join us next for a preview. don't miss it. >> we're teaching de-escalation. a matter of people to learn to trust the police and not distrust. what i'm worried about is that if you're not expecting the shock, and the markets fall dramatically, you might panic. and in the midst of that panic, you might sell and run to cash. at the very moment, you shouldn't. at the very moment, prices are at their low. that's my fear. i'm not worried about the country. i'm not worried about the financial markets, because in the long run, i know they'll be fine. i'm worried about you. i'm worried about how you will personally respond to this crisis. and even if you don't panic, you may... ♪. pete: late congressman john lewis will make the final crossing over the emmett pettis bridge in "selma," alabama. after a hometown tribute in his hometown. alicia acuna is live in selma with more on today's services. good morning. reporter: good morning to all of you. congressman john lewis's final journey across the edmund pettus bridge will go north and south. this is the path he and 600 others attempted to take 55 years ago from selma to montgomery, as they were demanding voting rights and equality from governor george wallace. alabama state troopers advanced on the group unleashing tear gas and beating hundreds including lewis as they knelt to pray. bloody sunday led to the voting rights act later that year. in the ame church here in selma, the mayor told folks gathered, they consider this the birthplace of true democracy, in large part due to john lewis. >> in my eyes he was really coming to give birth to democracy, birth to a new nation, that we will fill with so much possibility and so much promise but it took someone the magnitude of a john lewis to come help to give birth to democracy in these united states of america. reporter: lewis served 33 years in the house of representatives, becoming known as the conscience of the congress. in 2016 he led a sit-in on the floor of the house chamber with other members of the democratic caucus to protest gun violence. once the caisson crosses the bridge, the casket will be continue to take on to montgomery, where he will lie in state in the capital of alabama. back to you nice. jedediah: thank you so much, alicia for that. we'll bring in fox news contributor warren stone, who is also hosting a fantastic special tonight on fox called, one nation, that you absolutely won't want to miss. lawrence, welcome to the show as always. what are your thoughts remembering john lewis. >> good morning. i first met john lewis, i told people i was a young democrat before i went over to the right and he was one always supportive of young people. this is not a weak man. he was not a weak man. he was one that was strong with his words but he was also a peaceful man and he was one that condemned violence but he wanted to get his point across. you know there was so much back and forth when, back in the day with him and mlk because he wanted more action and he was a young, precocious leader. snick was founded in response to elders saying i think you young people are going too far with policy. he wanted to get his message across in a peaceful manner. when i was a young dem, fighting the establishment within the democratic party at the time, he was one of the ones that stood up for the young people. ultimately he left. john lewis was one of the ones that kept so many young people involved when they were getting discouraged with how things were currently being run. griff: lawrence, because you have such a diverse view of things from the democrat party in lewis and now more conservative, you're here with us on fox, your special tonight at 10:00 p.m., "one nation" is so important. want to play a clip. get your reaction. >> what changed? >> the culture. working with the community. the biggest change you hear talk about defunding the police. camden county invested in the camden county police department. >> rather than defund the police. >> they invested in the police. they invested in training, teaching de-escalation. people learning to trust the police, not distrust. griff: lawrence, on the streets, getting information first-hand. tell us what we'll learn tonight? >> i'm going to go talk with the people. that is it what i do. it is so hard to navigate this conversation when it comes to race, the violence, when it comes to law enforcement from a studio. you have to go talk with the people. so that's what i did. i'm going to talk about when the state abuses its power, they should be held accountable. when the city is in flames because citizens terrorize the community, they should be held accountable. i will talk about how you bring the police and community together. we talk about what is god's answer to fixing these troubled times? it will be a great special. hope you check it out, tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern on fox news channel. so great for our bosses, lawrence pettis, suzanne scott, trusted me to navigate this conversation. so grateful for them. pete: looking forward to it, lawrence, "one nation" 10:00 on fox news. an extended cut on fox news. sign up today, get the first month for just 99 cents. griff: good job, lawrence. hannah made landfall as a hurricane slamming the state with 90 mile-an-hour winds and heavy rain. meanwhile hawaii bracing for impact as hurricane douglas inches closer to the coastline this morning. meteorologist rick reichmuth is tracking it all. he joins us live with the latest. hey, rick. rick: guys it is the season. a lot of tropical activity. we'll get a break across the eastern u.s. for couple days. there is something brewing in the atlantic we're watching. here is hannah made landfall toward padre island. still bringing pretty significant rain across areas of south texas. i think most of the moisture moves a little farther south. you see the track cutting across the border from mexico, into northern mexico. that is where the majority of the remaining precipitation will be had. we have a lot of flooding concerns in place. rain still falling across south texas. flood warning anywhere you see the green. maybe another two to three inches of rain falling across the border area north of it. most everybody may be a inch or two by the time it is said and done. then we'll be done with hannah. we'll have significant flooding concerns. you mentioned douglas. this is douglas. was a major hurricane. it did have sights set farther to the south on the islands. the storm will track to north of it to spare everybody. it will be really rough across the north show across the beaches, griff, i'm sure you're interested in. that will be one problem. rain and everything else off to the north. the north shore islands will be rough day. griff: i'm watching the live wave cams, hoping everyone is safe. pete: rick, thank you very much. turning now to a few additional headlines. calls for a federal investigation after a black strum supporter is killed in milwaukee. vern nell trammel was shot toe death on the sidewalk. he was known in the community carrying hand made signs supporting the president and black lives matter. the chairman of the republican party believe it could be politically motivated. no suspects have been made. a man caught on camera putting a nypd officer in a headlock, is out on bail. he is charged with assault for the july 1st melee. he turned himself in a week later. he was freed on $15,000 bail on saturday. the officer needed stitches for a cut on his head. officials are sounding the alarm about mysterious seed deliveries sent empty nail. residents in six states reported having received unidentified packages. some are mislabeled as jewelry and have chinese writing on them. officials are urging everyone not to plant the seeds although plant it, you never know what you're going to get. it could be invasive and harmful to livestock. we'll take the advice. don't take mine. unexpected friendship blossoms, it is just too, well, doggone cute. watch this. 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[cheering] jedediah: we have some quick baseball headlines for you now. the new york yankees are being slammed by new york city mayor bill de blasio for allowing president trump to throw out the first pitch. the mayor tweeting, after condemning the racism, the next step is not inviting it to your pitchers mound. to the execs aligned with hatred, you're on the wrong side of history or and morally. trump will throw the pitch, august 15th. a zoom performance of a baseballic on fox sports. ♪ three strikes you're out at the old ballgame ♪ jedediah: dozens taking part in one of the largest nationwide sing a longs of take me out to the ball game. the performance including actor john ham, baseball great john smoltz, even some mascots. over to you, griff. griff: love it, thanks, jed. with that crack of the bat, baseball is back on fox. brewers and cubs led off a action-packed quadruple header but things looked a little different as fox debuted virtual fans on the stands. what is on next for the baseball season. mike gunzelman joins us. talk about the virtual fans. maybe i work in television, it was a little more surreal but what do you think? do you think audiences with i will actually end up liking this, given, making do with the best we can? >> well here's the thing the last time major league baseball players got together was back in march for spring training. that was five month ago. it feels like five years ago the way time has been the last couple months. major league baseball is coming back. i'm excited. my friends are excited. it is trending over social media. ratings came in opening night on thursday. it was highest opening day ratings ever for espn for baseball. yesterday you had fox had multiple games a in a row. fans do want baseball. we're trying to get back to some sort of normalcy. one way for us to move forward for sports to return. i'm hooked. i'm ready. i'm so excited. we finally have sports back. griff: you're not kidding me. i'm ready to get my baby shark out of the clossette, with the nats that beat the yankees 9-2. remaining time, 30 seconds, mike. what do you predict for the nfl season? will it begin? we know training camp begins on tuesday. >> training camp will begin on tuesday. nfl has more trouble than major league baseball, one traveling. every sunday traveling across the country with a lot of people, at least 100 people. the physicality of the sport. you're lining up, tackling because of football. three, will the fact they're playing in winter and fall. if somebody shows up sick, will it be a cold, flu or coronavirus? testing will be so important. and also get those results back soon. so, but hey, when you got baseball, nhl, nba starts as well. let's go. let's do this. griff: let's go. let's do. mike, thanks for joining us. we have to leave it there. 100 days to go until the election and the biden campaign is outlining their strategy. how the rnc is responding. that is coming up next and wherever you're headed, choice hotels is there. book direct at choicehotels.com. i don't have to worry about that, do i?are irritated.d, choice hotels is there. harmful bacteria lurk just below the gum line. crest gum detoxify, voted product of the year. it works below the gum line to neutralize harmful plaque bacteria and help reverse early gum damage. gum detoxify, from crest. ♪. jedediah: welcome, everyone. "fox & friends." let me see if i can see pete on the couch up there. i can. he waving at you. he is getting lonely up there. he is talking about there is a lot of pillows. never know what to do with pillows on the couch. he has gone rogue on the couch with rest of us out. there you go, you figured it out. griff: what are you talking a bow for. pete: i didn't know what else to do. that's all i got. not a talented person. jedediah: great to see you both. pete: great to see you too. jedediah: pete on the couch doing heavens knows what with the pillows. pete: i throw them at gabe to keep him awake. jedediah: griff jenkins live in the house from the swamp. always a great way to start the morning. we have a lot of news to begin with today. we begin this morning with a fox news alert because there is chaos in america. violent clashes are erupting across the country. [gunfire] jedediah: one person shot and killed when several shots were fired at a black lives matter protest in austin, texas. a suspect is in custody. in seattle, police declaring a riot after this youth jail construction site is torched. a nearby courthouse vandalized as windows are shattered. 21 cops are hurt, 45 people were arrested. pete: meanwhile portland seeing the 59th straight night of unrest. police using tear gas after rioters bring down a federal courthouse fence. rioters setting an american flag on fire. symbolic how they really feel about our country, and we know it, watching it go up in flames. griff: protests take a violent turn in richmond, virginia. police declaring an unlawful assembly as rioters set a a dump truck outside. in a record can, colorado, they set fire to a courthouse hours after the driver weren't through a crowd in interstate. they allegedly shot at the driver. what happens in portland seems to spread to other cities. see knit richmond. reports they were chanting, we stand with portland. of course what we're seeing there in colorado as well. pete: very clear attempt to destablize our country. the hatred of the current president feed as lot of this. it is long since divorced from whatever origins of the anger. now this is anti-government, anti-police, anti-donald trump protests. and the police are right to be responding more forcefully having learned lessons, we hope, from places like seattle when the autonomous zone. you have to arrest people when they are throwing batteries and explosives at police. let's hope they get the tools. although reports are conflicting with democrat mayors totally unwill back the police. city councils talk about defunding them. it is not a good situation, jed. jedediah: imagine the reality, not in one of those cities, having something like you have just seen evolving on the screen go on for 59 days, not two days, three days, 59 days and have local politicians do absolutely nothing about it. only thing they get angry about is getting federal authorities out of their cities. what do they expect people to do? i always justify the location of federal authorities there, just saying, there is federal monuments need to be protected. they have a right to be there. that's true but on the other hand i'm so tired of local politicians getting a pass, saying this is all happening because of president trump, because of federal authorities being here. no, it is not. it is happening because you allowed massive and widespread anarchy in the cities. you have done absolutely nothing about it. as a result, someone had to step in to do the job you were supposed to do. that is what is going on here. anyone looking at images, doesn't matter if you're in the images, that your to in, your family, will be next target that is left to run like wildfire, literally, wildfire through some of these cities. pete: you used the word terror. that is domestic terrorism, when in organized fashion attacking law enforcement. it has been called as such by authorities. griff: important to point out this comes as we're now four months into the worst pandemic of our lifetimes. all of these cities, all americans trying to get it under control. it comes as coronavirus cases now topping 4.1 million as the nation records more than 1000 deaths for a fifth straight day. rich edson joins us live as republicans are set to unveil a second relief package, possibly tomorrow, rich? reporter: good morning, griff, jed, pete. top administration officials spent some of their weekend own capitol hill negotiating the details what are expected to be the next coronavirus relief package. the treasury secretary steve mnuchin, white house chief of staff mark meadows, were on the hill meeting with senate staff yesterday to develop a republican bill that senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is expected to release tomorrow. the initial 600-dollar boost to unemployment benefits congress approved in march is now beginning to expire. republicans are looking at a different formula, this time. one ensures a government benefit that insures no more than 70% of a workers previous pay. mnuchin says we're moving quickly. it is an important issue. we want to make sure there is technical correction so people don't get paid more money to stay home than to work. administration is it looking at the same 1200-dollar direct payment to many american families. white house chief of staff mark meadows said, quote, i'm confident if democrats are willing to focus on those unemployed and need assistance. the most they will fine a way to get at least address that need while we continue to perhaps negotiate beyond that. even if the white house and senate republicans agree to a plan, that just amounts to the opening republican offer to congressional democrats. they're looking to keep 600-dollar unemployment benefit. democrats want hundreds of billions of dollars in state and local aid. johns hopkins university says have been more than 4.1 million confirmed coronavirus cases in the united states with more than 146,000 deaths. that is more than the 16 million confirmed cases nationwide and more than 640,000 deaths around the world. back to you. pete: rich, thank you very much. appreciate it. this weekend marks 100 days until the election. it's coming quick. and rich talked about covid-19. we talked about the riots across this country. of course the economy front and center as they talk about the stimulus and helping individuals get through this moment. well the biden campaign put out a memo yesterday. it is really a messaging document. but it's a strategy memo. campaigns do this all time. they lay out three or four pages where they think they are, what the vulnerabilities about their opponent, what they think their advantages are. this document was no different this is portion what biden's deputy campaign manager had to say about his path to victory. talked about covid, then race, economy and brass tacks. they have 2,000 staff on board in augusts. tens of thousands of additional volunteers across the country. we'll see where those come from. $14.5 million ad buy in florida, arizona, wisconsin, michigan, north carolina, pennsylvania. 100 days out weekend of action to encourage voters to get involved in virtual events across the country. here is a quote from -- woman's name is kate beddingfield. she is the communications director as well. the conclusion voters continue to draw is straightforward and clear. joe biden cares about you and his family, donald trump only cares about himself, super wealthy and corporations. he doesn't care who he hurts. one portion of the memo, that i think has some truth to it, is that the trump campaign is in some ways failed to defined biden. how do you define a guy in his basis and empty vessel for what the left wants. this is not how they say it but they see that as an advantage. griff? griff: what is interesting about this, in this memo kate beddingfield says victory will be based on a coalition of the suburbs, seniors, african-americans and young voters but you know, here's the thing. i'm not so sure that strategy is going to work with suburbs, with seniors who are afraid of what you're seeing in portland for two months straight. what you're seeing in other cities like seattle. look, the fear, if you're a senior, you certainly understand that the basis of civilization is law and order enforced with fair justice and you're seeing also the rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel pushing back, less than 100 days to the election, the enthusiasm gap points to president trump. here is a little bit what mcdaniel says. a little wonder joe biden is failing to motivate voters on his own party. raising taxes on2% of americans or eliminating entire sectors of the energy industry along with millions of reliable, good paying jobs is not rallying cry for the campaign. a candidate can't be bothered to field a few questions from friendly reporters can't be trusted to lead our country. interesting response. jed, i would tell you, i would love to ask kate beddingfield pointed questions how they intend to win with suburban voters with seniors, when you have news of unrest every day? jedediah: yeah i think the enthusiasm gap they're worried about is real, is tenable. a lot of people are not excited about joe biden. that is no secret. a lot of time remains. he will pick a vice-presidential candidate to run with him. that will be big. it is very early to look at the polling to really count on it. there is too much happening. look what is happening in the country. so much changes day-to-day. we have a global pandemic. it is really insane what you see on the news day-to-day. look at the mass protests turning into riots. what is good, this set as good gauge where the country is right now. you will have two very different, distinct visions between joe biden, president trump how to handle what is going on right now, be it pandemic, school openings, riots around cities how to deal with. that we'll see where the country stands based on who people vote for, who they elect. you will know what the pulse of the country is feeling right now. i think that is really important. often times you poll people. they're not honest with you, you won't get accurate view. we'll know results very soon. two very different visions. a choice here or there will be quite telling. griff: one way or another we'll find out in 100 days. turning to the headlines, starting with a fox news alert. hannah downgraded to a tropical storm overnight as it batters texas. hannah made landfall as a hurricane slamming the state with 90 mile-per-hour winds and heavy rain. governor greg abbott declaring a state of emergency in 32 counties. massive waves around boats in corpus christi. torrential rains submerging a baseball field. forecasters predict more flooding today. in ha, hurricane douglas inches closer to the coastline this morning. three people are dead including a nine-month-old baby after a plane crashes into a home's backyard. the plane took off from pa regional airport a few miles away before it went down south of salt lake city. three other passengers were hurt. a woman inside of one of the homes is in critical condition. one home is destroyed and two others were damaged. faa and ntsb are investigating. tribute pouring in for regis philbin. the tv icon passed away one month before his 89th birthday. >> what can i say, you're going to paris. this is the answer heard 'round the world, he won a million dollars. griff: his career spanned 50 years. kathie lee gifford issued a statement, i smile that he is making someone in heaven laugh. there is never anyone like him and never will be. kelly ripa and ryan seacrest posted a statement. he is the ultimate class act. we were lucky to have him as a mentor in our careers. philbin died of natural causes. he was8 years old. those are your headlines. what a tv legend. pete: god bless him. jedediah: absolutely. pete: coming up president trump established thousands of opportunity zones to help bolster poor communities but now half of the so-called squad, they don't deserve a cool nickname wants to defund the program over claims it helps rich people too much. scott turner hits back at the criticism still ahead. some companies still have hr stuck between employees and their data. entering data. changing data. more and more sensitive, personal data. and it doesn't just drag hr down. it drags the entire business down -- with inefficiency, errors and waste. it's ridiculous. so ridiculous. with paycom, employees enter and manage their own data in a single, easy to use software. visit paycom.com, and schedule your demo today. ♪. jedediah: progressive congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and rashida tlaib proposing to defund president trump's opportunity zones, believing the program overly benefits wealthy americans investing in these areas. thousands of these zones were created in the 2017 tax law meant to revitalize poor communities through private investments. here to react, executive director of white house opportunity revitalization council scott turner. welcome to the show. this is really important. these opportunity zones. first and foremost remind us the significance of these zones, why they were created, and what they aim to accomplish? >> good morning, and thank you so much for having me. the question came up what can be done for the forgotten communities and forgotten people in america and president trump and those in the administration when asking questions, through the tax cuts and jobs act created the initiative. 35 million people in our country live inside of these opportunity zones and opportunity zones are those communities that have higher poverty rate than the state average. that have lower, much lower median income, often times a high crime rate. each governor, territory leader was given a task to designate or nominate the opportunity zones and 25% of these are available. as a result, 8764 opportunity zones across america have been created but the root of it to your question is what can be done to lift up our nation's most vulnerable, distressed communities and the people inside of these communities, to create, you know, new jobs and new businesses, better housing, retail, you know, to help people fulfill their god-given potential and use their skill set to take care of their families to start businesses? but the root of it is, people in our country living in poverty. so how can we help to lift them up. jedediah: yeah. so what is your reaction to the push to defund them? >> i think that is a big mistake and you know we cannot say as a people, as america, we are concerned about our most vulnerable people in our country if we want to take away this, most important initiative of the opportunity zone legislation. you know i have the privilege of stewarding this council along with dr. ben carson, hud secretary ben carson. i've been around our country. our team has been around our country. i've been to over 60 cities, 65 cities of our most vulnerable communities, convening stakeholders together, both democrat and republican. the beauty about this initiative it, transcends politics. it transcends ethnicity and creed and socioeconomic background. this is a call to release private capital into areas that have not seen investment in decades. not only that but to create public/private partnerships to bring about all of these stakeholders together. as i said before, create business. you have education leaders, i'm sorry. did you say something? jedediah: no problem. it is a very different, no it is a very different view investing private capital as opposed to relying on government investment. we're out of time for today, scott. we very much appreciate you digging into this. we know the debate will not end here. we'll have you back. thanks so much. >> thank you. jedediah: coming up has cancel culture gone too far? nearly half of voters think so, including our next guest, podcast and author graham allen after the break. what do you think? ♪. vaccination. reinventing. it's what small businesses do. vaccination. with comcast business, your small business can work faster, with powerful internet from the nation's largest gig-speed network. work safer, with all your connected devices automatically protected by securityedge. and work anywhere, with comcast business at home, our new business-grade internet solution for remote workers. whatever your business needs, comcast business has the solutions to help you not just bounce back, but bounce forward. call or go online to find out more. ♪. griff: welcome back now time for news by the numbers. first, 200 euros. that is how much france will fine drug users especially marijuana on the spot. that is 233 u.s. dollars. the fines will begin in september. france is europe's top marijuana consumer. next, 14 feet, that is how long this great white shark that bit a gopro camera is. the big shark swimming by a diver's camera a few times before charging at it. yikes! finally, seven years, that is how long it has been since colorado rockies pitcher daniel barred played in the majors. he was out of baseball after developing the yips. he picked up the win last night. his first since 2012 last year. he was working as a pitching coach. who knew the yips existed. that is loss in schools being able to perform your professional sports. pete: they call it steve sax's disease, couldn't throw from second base. it happened to the chuck knoblach. you know the definition. a new true reporter griff, well-done. nearly half of reporters think cancel culture goes too far. 49% believe cancel culture has had a negative effect on society graham allen joins us. i am jealous. stole the title of my third book. it is fantastic. before we get to the book, i do want to unpack your argument a little bit, the cancel culture a lot of people agree it is bad. amongst millenials and younger people seem to be more okay with it. where are we on this. >> ironically i talk about this in the book. i think it is sad we're breeding a new generation that thinks that just because you don't like the way something feels or just because you don't like the way something sounds that you should do everything in your power to cancel that person or that business. i mean god forbid someone has a different opinion than we have in today's society. we need to cancel, cancel culture, pete, because too be blunt. cancel culture kind of sucks. it is okay to agree to disagree. it is okay for people to say something that you may not actually like. and believe it or not, people aren't perfect. it is okay for people to make mistakes. so maybe what we should actually try to stop trying to cancel people and businesses. maybe we should try a little bit of grace and understanding sometimes. pete: could use a little bit of that these days. where does that mentality come from, where are kids learning that we need to shut it down? >> oh, my goodness, i think, that again, goes with the current climate which we find ourselves. it goes into, honestly if we're being honest, a lack of parenting in the sense, hey, life isn't always going to go your way. people are always going to give you not exactly what you want and people will not always think exactly how you think. pete: absolutely. break down the new book, it is "america 3:16". what can america expect. >> go to america 3:16. i made my entire career saying what everyone else wants to say. 60% of americans can't express what they feel through repercussions of cancel culture this book is for you. they may not let me write another book. i put pro-life, pro-freedom, pro-second amendment. a chapter says our rights are not up for debate. my god, if not every day onslaught infringement of our rights, i wish that chapter wasn't prevalent today you about unfortunately it is. this book is for real americans and i hope that everyone will check it out at america 3:16.com. pete: you served country in uniform. you have a huge following. you're known to be a truth teller, a blunt speaker. i got a copy of that book. it comes through the pages as well. congratulations. graham allen, thanks for joining us. we'll see you again soon. >> thank you, man. pete: you got it. coming up federal officers targeted. cpb releasing images of metal spikes used to puncture their vehicles as they work to reduce violence across the country. acting dhs secretary, deputy secretary, excuse me, ken cuccinelli joins us on the latest on their mission coming up. if your dry eye symptoms keep coming back, inflammation in your eye might be to blame. looks like a great day for achy, burning eyes over-the-counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes and may provide temporary relief. ha! these drops probably won't touch me. xiidra works differently, targeting inflammation that can cause dry eye disease. what is that? 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[shouting] griff: back with a fox news alert. chaos break out across the country. police declaring a riot in seattle after a construction site is torched. 21 officers are hurt, 45 people were arrested. pete: meanwhile portland seeing it its 59th straight night of unrest. police using tear gas after rioters bring down a federal courthouse fence. they lit american flag watching it go up in flames. jedediah: protesters take a violent turn in richmond, virginia. police declare a unlawful assembly as rioters set a dump truck on fire outside of police headquarters. we'll bring in acting dhs deputy secretary ken cuccinelli. welcome to the show. we're seeing some of the footage in multiple cities across the country, is particularly terrifying for residents of cities. what is your reaction to what is going on? >> burning the american flag is almost an emblem for these people that appears to be their goal. that is just destruction. we saw mayor wheeler of portland go out try to appease them the other night. they booed them down. literal his own police had to declare a riot. so many on the left think they can appease these folks. they're violent but part of their political base. they're far more destructive people are giving them credit for if you will. police officers like seattle police, richmond yesterday, standing in the breach. we're doing it in portland around the federal facilities. griff: ken, i want to show you mark morgan, acting secretary of cpb, tweet the out a picture. you see metal spikes used by criminals in portland to puncture tires of cpb vehicles. as i understand it right now, ken, as many as three of your officers who may lose their sight permanently because of the lasers. is the threat escalating? can you speak to your concern for where that goes? >> well, we expanded our presence in portland because the threat escalated going into the july 4th weekend. that intelligence of a higher threat turned out to be correct. and you noted they are close to two straight months of violence every single day in portland, partly because of their own mayor, who is the police commissioner, ties the hands of his own police. so the federal officers are left to defend the court hours and federal buildings without local cooperation which is very ray not to have local cooperation at the law enforcement level. you see some of the results. laser attacks. tire punk you aring. these are violent, violent acts. one sets up the other. they use commercial fireworks, mortars, they shoot them sideways instead of up. they hit three officers. at the same time to they use lasers to attack their eyes. those lasers can do damage. regularly available lasers unfortunately on the market can do eye damage. they're being used to intentionally do that. that is what our officers are facing. these are not peaceful protesters. these are violent anarchists. that is what we're dealing with. pete: absolutely right, mr. deputy secretary, i have to ask you about your boss. this is getting personal. a group in washington, d.c., posting on facebook a planned protest of the acting secretary chat wolf. they wrote this on facebook. the department of homeland security under the leadership of acting secretary chad wolf was deployed to portland, oregon last week. unidentified federal agents kidnapped protesters with unmarked vans, tear gas row protesters, violently attacked them. we're calling for a march and rally at chad wolf's that trump's troops remove from every city. we're calling for every person detained by cpb to be freed. your reaction to them saying we'll pitch ourselves outside of a member of the cabinet? >> yes. so this is a good example of how these people are not about free speech. they're about destruction and intimidation. that is what this is. it is nothing more. you know, you can express yourself elsewhere. as a former state attorney general, as i recall, it has been a few years, it is not legal to protest outside a residential house. you can walk by but you can't stop and loiter there, for this very reason. because it is intimidating. it is threatening. that is exactly what they intend. chad wolf isn't going anywhere. he led this effort at the department of homeland security with confidence and competence. you expect that to continue. but, this is a tactic you've seen in richmond, in portland, in seattle and it wasn't directed at republicans. this is not new or unique here but it is intimidation. it is just below the level without the directed violence, just below the level of terrorism. jedediah: no question, ken. i want to shift over to barbara boxers. there is op-ed in "the washington post." check out the headline, barbara boxer, former senator. dhs was a mistake. i regret voting for it. we have a quote from the op-ed, i never imagined a president woe use unconfirmed puppets like acting secretary chad wolf and his deputy ken cuccinelli to terrorize our own citizens. your response, ted. >> the people terrorized in portland are citizens and business owners down there. we haven't gone beyond our federal authority and laws that she has voted for, she notes, defending the courthouse and protecting federal facilities. there are people afraid to go to work there now. understandably so. if you, if you step back from that courthouse, walk around, you can see very clearly there are messages parented on the buildings. you can see very clearly they're very violent intent. this is, you know, this is preservation of an area of federal responsibility, in terms of both property and life. so you know, for barbara boxer to suggest that the department of homeland security is somehow responsible for this is foolish. this was going on a more than a month every day before we expanded our presence. griff: ken, explain to me, we have only a little bit of time left. it was 90-9 vote to establish dhs 2002. 18 years later the organization that protects the nation are attacked by those that supported it in time of national unit. why people like senator boxer coming out blasting it now? >> obviously this is political. let's be real basic. the law enforcement agency called the federal protective service which most people never heard of, most days they have a very quiet existence. they're responsible for protecting these buildings. the cpb and i.c.e. folks we moved there a few weeks ago are there to support the federal protective service. they existed and did that mission before the department of homeland security existed. they were moved into the department of homeland security but take the hatfield courthouse there in portland. they have been protecting that building since it opened in 1997. for barba boxer point to dhs, instead of the mission she along with others charged us with, we are fulfilling legally constitutionally, article i, section 8, paragraphs 1, 9 and 18. are what those laws are fulfilling. she has voted for that. you can't have a courthouse and not protect it. that is not a realistic option. pete: nope, it is not. ken cuccinelli thank you very much for your time. >> good to be with you all. pete: turning to some extreme weather, overnight hannah downgraded to a tropical storm after battering southern texas. hannah made landfall as a hurricane slamming the state with 90 mile-per-hour winds and heavy rain. hawaii is bracing for impact as hurricane douglas inches closer to the coastline earlier this morning. meteorologist rick reichmuth is tracking it all as he always does. what is the latest rick? rick: hawaii, you will be fine. we had more concerns for hawaii. the storm will go north of it. that is good news for hawaii. hannah was a significant storm. god up to 90 mile-an-hour sustained wind shore, pulled onshore, brought with it, storm surge and flooding. center of storm is across u.s. and mexico. it will pull off towards the southwest away from the u.s. bringing significant rain across the northeastern part of americas co. here is the radar picture across the country. south getting a lot of rain. even areas towards new orleans, plaquemines's parish, some of the energy moisture pulled in towards hannah. hannah across parts of south texas. to the north of that we're also watching some storms part of what is monsoonal moisture you see popping up in the afternoons across the four corners. you will see that again today. pretty significant weather across the central plains. one thing to watch, guys, heat coming back across the mid-atlantic and northeast. another heat wave starting today. temperatures above 90. griff: will be a hot one. thank you, rick. still ahead, former president joe biden is expected to announce his running mate but will his pick unite or divide democrats? we'll hear from former obama advisor robert wolf, next ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the open road is open again. and wherever you're headed, choice hotels is there. book direct at choicehotels.com. ♪ don't just think about where you're headed this summer. think about how you'll get there. and now that you can lease or buy a new lincoln remotely or in person... discovering that feeling has never been more effortless. the lincoln summer invitation sales event is here. ♪. pete: joe biden getting closer to pick a running mate as the race for the white house enters the crucial 100 day stretch. biden pledged to pick a woman and expects to make his decision before the democratic convention on august 17th. our next guest knows some of the top contenders personally he will break it down. fox news contributor and former president obama advisor, robert wolf joins us. from his non-yacht location. great to have you. without getting into the particulars of disagreements you and i would have about joe biden, break down the picks that he could make and the pluses and minuses of those potential picks. >> great. i would like to start by saying we vote for who is at the top of the ticket. that is one thing you and i already spoken about. all those these veepstakes has huge chatter -- pete: i didn't come to pick a beef with you today. some people feel like this v. p pick is more consequential as others almost a shadow presidency in light of other things. you can say that. >> i knew you were going to say that. the way i would say it, three have been in the top five since the beginning and they are the three with most experience, right? you have kamala harris, who is, you know, certainly ready for day one, especially as we're involved with this whole idea of systemic race and inequality. she seems to be certainly one of the top choices. elizabeth warren is, excites the part of the base that joe doesn't have, but she also bring as different voice on economic inequality. she is obviously very strong in the recovery. susan rice, obviously with the pandemic, and what i would call very mixed relations with our foreign affairs around the country, former ambassador, head of the national security advisor, would, and we know she getting along well with joe, those three seem to have always been in the top five. by the way for me, i know kamala and susan over a decade as well as elizabeth warren. i would feel incredibly comfortable with any of those three. pete: i'm with holding my comments. if you ask activists in the democratic party who are they clamoring for when it comes to energy? >> it is interesting. i think that james clyburn said it well, we just want to win. i think there is a part of the base, there has been a referendum on donald trump, we'll get-out-the-vote. i'm not as worried about where we were in 2016 when secretary clinton struggled to get excitement of the base, above the bernie bros. there is no question, 96% of bernie sanders people said they are voting, i don't know exactly. there is already excitement to get to the polls. what i would say, you have another 3 or 4 that is definitely in the mix still. val demmings of florida. karen bass literally taken over the last week of media by storm, between "the view," "the wall street journal," interview, the fox interview and other, she chairs the black congressional caucus. you have gretchen whit hears 70% popularity in the swing state of michigan. you have tammy duckworth of wisconsin, of illinois. who is a former vet. you have obviously tammy baldwin of wisconsin. but i would say that it feels like kamala, susan rice, elizabeth warren and now karen bass make out the top four. so you have three of the four women of color. pete: we shall see. some things i want to say, robert. i will leave it there with a straight up analysis. >> i'm always ready for you, pete. pete: i know. you really pick susan rice? so many places to go. what he does will set a lot of the tone for the race we'll see for the next 100 days. love to have you back. robert, thank you very much. >> look forward to it. pete: up next as portland nears 60 days of unrest, a few miles north a city will have a display to support the police. meet the college student to get this back the blue billboard on display ♪. griff: portland rocked by nearly 60 nights ever unrest as demonstrators call to defund the police but just about 30 miles north of the city locals are going up for a show of support for law enforcement a college student spearheading a project to get this back the blue billboard on display. after two weeks of fund-raising. it is set to go up in st. helen's oregon tomorrow. kate willoughby, founder of the campaign joins me now. why are you doing this? >> yeah, i always supported the police for a while and i feel like a lot of people say right now isn't the time but for me, i think it is a perfect time to be supporting our law enforcement. a lot of them have been injured in riots and some have died. we need to show support for people that protect us every day. griff: was there a moment, was there something that just sparked you, led you to take this action? you said i've seen enough, now i'm going to do this? >> it was pretty much within our town where people decided to start saying that all cops are bad. in my eyes that is a false claim and that was i had to say enough is enough. griff: caden, you're a college student, many of your peers, many in the millenial selection there, police are fundamentally bad. why do they see it that way? why are they misled? >> i think it has a lot to do with people within our community that kind of try to push them to think a certain way and, i always am the one to think for myself. i think more with common sense than, common sense would tell me that the law enforcement officers protect me from harm every day. we know that there is bad copes but there is a lot of good ones as well. without them i think it would be a horrible place to be. griff: just lastly, in the seconds with have got left, caden what has been the response to this billboard, to what you're doing? >> we've had a lot of great response from community members but we've also had a lot of people that have turned on me as a human being here in st. helens. people don't agree with it. i think the response has been great overall. griff: caden willoughby, back the blue billboard. if you want to know date, search back the blue billboard. it's a gofundme page. cadeen, impressive, sticking by what you believe in and your principles. >> thank you for having me. griff: all right. still ahead, congressman louie gohmert, brian kilmeade, maria bartiromo, dr. alveda king and dean cain. look at that lineup! clear your morning. we got a lot left. can my side be firm? 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[laughter] good morning. happy sunday to you. griff jenkins in washington, or the swamp as pete and jed call it. you guys up in new york. morning. jedediah: what did you throw, pete? pete: i just threw a piece of paper at him. it brings me back to the time where you were hosting right below me, and for the entire show, i threw an entire ream of paper at you. griff: just things to keep pete on track. pete: it's barely legible. [laughter] but it's great to have you both. jed, great to have you. we're at the halfway mark here on the sunday edition of "fox & friends" and, as always, a great deal of -- [inaudible] fox news alert, chaos in america. violence erupts across the country. [background sounds] pete: one person shot and killed at a black lives matter protest turned riot in austin, texas. a suspect is now in custody. in seattle, a construction site is torched. 21 cops were hurt, 21, and 45 people arrested. griff: portland seeing its 59th straight night of unrest. police using tear gas on rioters after they bring down a federal courthouse fence, rioters also setting an american flag on fire, watching it go up in flamings. and police declaring an unlawful gathering in richmond, virginia. jedediah: and in colorado, protesters rally outside aurora police headquarters hours after a car drives through a crowd injuring two people. really crazy to see what is going on around the country right now, what started out in one city has really created a domino effect throughout other cities as a lot of these troublemakers get wind of the fact that local mayors, governors aren't going to do anything, and they have free rein to engage in destruction. very, very sad sights to see, pete. pete: yeah. and unraveling really based on an opening when they abandoned that police precinct in minneapolis, the cascading effect was a total disregard for authority, largely out of hatred for a sitting president and the people that support him. these are no longer protests, these are attacks and riots, illegal activity. and it's going, it's getting personal, guys. we're learning overnight that a group in washington, d.c., griff, they're planning a protest outside a member of the cabinet's house? griff: yeah, that's right. they're called shutdown d.c. posting on facebook, rally at chad wolf's house. now they, of course, have a first amendment right to protest, march, but lest they should engage in any sort of threatening a sitting secretary, they will be treated as criminals. we had ken cucinelli, the acting dhs sec taxer on earlier -- secretary on earlier talking about that and the protests we continue to see in portland. >> this is a good example of how these people are not about free speech. they're about destruction and intimidation. that's what this is. it's nothing more. chad wolf isn't going anywhere. he has led this effort at the department of homeland security with confidence and competence, and you can expect that to continue. but this is a tactic you've seen in richmond, in portland, in seattle, and it wasn't directed at republicans. so, you know, this is not new or unique here, but it is intimidation. it is just below the level would want the directed -- without the directed violence, it's just below the level of terrorism. griff: yeah. you know, we talked to i can't think as well about the fact that three officers may lose their sight permanently because of lasers. want to bring in now dean cain, our good friend, actor and reserve officer. hey, dean, good morning to you. sorry we gotta bring you on for this sort of lawlessness, but as a police officer, put on your cop hat for a second and react to what we're seeing now in portland that's spreading across the u.s. >> well, good morning, griff, pete and jed. thanks for having me on. lovely to see you guys, i wish it was you should better circumstances. -- under better circumstances. these clashes, to me, are division -- disgusting. this is organized violence against law and order. pete touched on it earlier, and i think ken cucinelli was 100% right. the politicians that are allowing this to happen, they are complicit, they should be held responsible in november. mayor de blasio, nancy pelosi, ted wheeler. the speaker of the house, they're inciting these people and pushing violence. and pete said it earlier, they're allowing out to happen. exactly, make no mistake about this, this is about politics. and it's meant to keep, to hurt president trump. kind of like the decision to keep schools closed, all meant to hurt president trump. if you want haw -- law and order restored, vote president trump. jedediah: another topic we're addressing today is we're remembering regis fill -- regis fill bin. -- philbin. so many people loved him. i didn't know him personally, but he warmed my home every time he was on television. tell us about your experiences with him. >> you said it all right there, jed with. i mean, he -- regis, he's a one-namer like johnny carson, you know? he was of the old school class and grace like johnny carson. he was amazing. first time i was on the show was 1993 because i worked for abc, i saw him over and over again, i was on the hoe so many times. of he was -- show so many times. he was to warm and gracious and funny. look, the guy holds the guinness book of records for the amount of time on it's. i mean -- on television. i loved hanging out with him, talking to him. i found him to be so warm and lovely. his would have, joy, by heart goes out to her. kathie lee gifford and i are great friends too, and she said the nicest things about him all the time without fail, and their relationship was brilliant. you know, we lost a true, true superstar in regis. god bless him. we're better off as a country and as a world that he was part of it. pete: you mentioned kathie lee gifford, she posted this on instagram in reaction: i smile knowing somewhere in heaven at this very moment he's making someone laugh. it brings me great comfort knowing that he had a personal relationship with his lord. i send, as you did, love to joy, his children and to the innumerable people he touched over his life, there's never been anyone like him and there never will be. dean, we got to see pictures of you from 1993, i don't know if you can see -- [laughter] you look the exact same. >> bless you for that. pete: it's true. but what -- this strikes me as the kind of guy who, for whatever reason, connected with almost everybody and didn't create enemies and made people smile. what was the secret inagreed cent? >> you know, i think it was just his character. because the guy you saw on screen was the same guy you saw off screen. that hysterically great sense of humor, warm. like, you'd want to have regis in your house every day. you'd like to have him at your breakfast table, and that's where he was. when he did millionaire, he was hysterical and great and fantastic. is that your final answer? i mean, he really -- it's from regis. he was a superstar and, again, old school class and grace. griff: dean, i'm with pete, let's go back to that video. what assignment were you on that you're wearing a lei looking like elvis presley in hawaii? that's a good gig. >> live with regis and kathy lee, we were pointing -- the first time i was on was in hawaii. do you want to come out to hawaii and do a show? yes. [laughter] i shot the show in buffalo, new york, where i played football at one point in time for about 15 minutes. anytime they'd go somewhere, i'd be happy to travel because they did it just right. and, you know, that one was -- that was certainly hawaii. i can see it on my screen now. look at that young man. that's awesome. [laughter] jedediah: [inaudible] pete: go ahead. jedediah: i just finished watching you in a rerun last night, so it's like, oh, that's the dean i know. thanks for being here and lending your perspective on this and police issues. you're a renaissance man, and we love having you here. >> be well. mornings are always better with friends. pete: there we go. had the mug. love it. we're also going to have "fox & friends" own brian kilmeade, he's getting up early he says to get dressed which means he'll probably be dressed for the segment. can't wait to get his analysis, he spent time with regis as well. griff: turning now to your headlines, hannah downgraded to a tropical storm overnight as it batters texas, governor greg abbott declaring a state of emergency in 32 counties. massive waves moving around boats in corpus christi and torrential downpour submerging a baseball field. meanwhile, hawaii bracing for an impact as hurricane douglas inches closer to the coastline this morning. and late congressman john lewis will make the final crossing over the edmund pettis bridge in zell mark alabama. -- selma, alabama. a motorcade will then carry lewis to alabama's capitol building where he will lie e in state. we will have more on services later this hour as lewis' celebration of life enters its second day. and overnight coronavirus to go, covid-19 cases topped 16 million worldwide. the u.s. recording more than 1,000 deaths for the fifth straight day leading the world with 146,000 deaths and more than 4 million cases. florida now passing new york as the state with the second highest infection rate after reporting more than 12,000 cases just yesterday. california remains the most infected with 446,000 cases. and fans in the stands at one game feeling a little rough after this home run. >> and this breaking ball ripped toward right, that ball is gone! griff: the braves' adam duval hitting a homer that hit a cardboard cutout of willow. the braves won 5-3 in extra innings. just hit that dog cutout. peter: the real dog would have caught it. jedediah: yeah, you know, i wasn't feeling the cardboard cutouts until i saw the puppies, and now i'm like, oh, maybe that could work for me. [laughter] [inaudible conversations] griff: pete, just one more time, imitate the dog catching the ball. perfect. pete: also got a correction, he was the one i was throwing the patient on. it wasn't you, griff, it was another victim, so you got a pass. all right. jedediah: all right. coming up, over a thousand people turning out to back the blue in a new york community. our next guest spoke at the event. her husband was killed in the line of duty back in 2016. here why she says officers and their families need to hear we care now more than ever. 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our officers sacrifice every single day. they leave their families, their new or borns, their dying and elderly parents to be there in communities supporting people that they don't know. pete: in your case, lisa, paul that day left, i believe, a 3 and a 4-year-old to go do his job, ultimately your children. what's the morale of families that see this environment and the officers that leave their house every day? >> we are heart broken over the fact that we are seeing what's happening across the nation, and we want to be able to do something about it. we want to be able to speak up because we don't want anyone else being in our tragic situations. pete: where do you think this goes? do you think we have an opportunity to rally the nation in support of law enforcement officers? you're doing your part. >> well, you know, i certainly hope so. i think that the silent are majority needs to be heard. i think that it's important for our communities, our cities and certainly our nation to understand this is not about political agendas, but it's about being human beings and caring for one another and making sure that we treat each other with kindness and respect and compassion always. pete: well said. the thin blue line is a real thing. you know better than most. >> yes, it is. pete: god bless your husband, and we appreciate your message this morning, thank you. >> thank you for your time the, pete. pete: all right. how at risk are young people when it comes to the coronavirus? 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jedediah: thanks, griff. although it's believed young people are less likely to be severely impacted by coronavirus, the cdc reports they may still develop chronic illness. over 20% of young adults reported they weren't back to their normal health even 2-3 weeks after testing positive. could this impact schools reopening in the fall and outside life in general returning to normal? here to discuss, author of "make america healthy again," dr. nicole saphier. doctor, this new information is something i've heard from a lot of people. sometimes 2-3 months out they still are have lingering symptoms and had no pre-existing conditions. can you talk about a what might be happening here? >> absolutely. good morning, jedediah. and, you know, this is a very important conversation because often people are just talking about people who diverse us people who you are -- people who survive. just now the cdc came out with a survey that they did x they called nearly 300 people who showed up to an outpatient setting who were symptomatic and tested positive for covid-19. about a 35% of them reported they were not back to their baseline health 2-3 weeks after that positive test. jedediah, you can attest more than anyone else how long the prolonged effects of this illness is. it's already been well documented those who are hospitalized with severe illness can take weeks to months to get back to feeling normal, if they ever do. but this survey e is important because this is seemingly healthy younger populations, ages 18 to less than 60. and the 18 to 35-year-olds, about 35 president of them did not --35% of them did not return to their baseline. they were chaining of shortness of breath, fatigue and even that loss of smell that so many people are talking about. that really does seem to take a while to come back. jedediah: yeah. and i always took issue with this word mild because people often times refer to mild symptoms as you didn't wind up in the hospital and you are still alive. but often times the symptoms don't feel mild. i had covid and still when i go outside for a long run, but -- my lungs don't feel like my lungs. that's very, very scarily e to a lot of people -- scary to people. how does this affect the conversation about returning back to normal whether it be schools and working in those settings or regular workplaces or anywhere for that matter? >> well, the conversation is important, jedediah, because it doesn't mean that people are still transmitting virus, it just means they themselves are not feeling back to normal. so there could be just prolonged recovering, and people who tend to be out with a bad colding strep throat or flu may be out 3-5 days, but with covid it might be significantly long or, and it's very possible. that's something that businesses and schools are going to really need to take into consideration. that's why some level of distance learning as well as remote working needs to be accessible because of these prolonged effects. jedediah: yeah. thank you, doctor, for being here and for being someone i've been able to reach out to for my own wellness, and so many of the viewers value what you have to say. we always appreciate out. thanks. >> absolutely. jedediah: john lewis is about to take his final trip over the edmund pettis bridge in selma as the country says good-bye to the civil rights icon. dr. alveda king joins us live next. at heinz, every ketchup starts with our same tomatoes. but not every tomato ends in the same kind of heinz ketchup. because you can't be everyone's favorite ketchup without making a ketchup for everyone. ♪ ♪ ♪ the open road is open again. and wherever you're headed, choice hotels is there. book direct at choicehotels.com. ♪ i'm a talking dog. the other issue. oh...i'm scratching like crazy. you've got some allergic itch with skin inflammation. apoquel can work on that itch in as little as 4 hours, whether it's a new or chronic problem. and apoquel's treated over 8 million dogs. nice. and...the talking dog thing? 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>> good morning. as i are watched the proceedings, i believe it's a beautiful tribute to congressman john lewis that there are so many stops, just like the stops he made during his lifetime in selma and then 33 years in congress, he was always such a compassionate person, a very faithful person. he wanted to bring people together. he and i had different fill soft call and mitt cam views, however -- political view, however, i know my cousin martin in his remarks, the same sentiments our whole family had toward congressman lewis. my last conversation with him he asked very much about my mother, can and he said how is your mother, how she doing. and i remember our conversations were more along those lines rather than political and that type of thing. i think it's a great tribute also even though there are several stops and observances, they're not very long, and that is exemplary of who john lewis was. he was pretty much don't put the attention on me, put it on the people. that wases the john lewis that i know, very peaceful and if strong warrior. my daddy spoke about him a lot. he was beaten as well. but he'd talk about john and the fortitude that john displayed. and that is what i like to remember about congressman lewis. pete: alveda, the actions he took and others like him took change our nation and fulfilled, got closer to fulfilling the founding principles proclaimed. and did so is peacefully, your uncle, your father, john lewis, what can people agitatinged today who are going violent, what should they be learning from someone like john lewis? >> what people today in the protests are not getting, even when they take a knee, you don't necessarily notice that they're praying to god. in the 20th century in that movement, and i marched and went to yale and all of that -- to yale and all of that for fair housing, but we were taught we cannot do this without god. and john lewis, a peaceful warrior dealing with social justice. -- we must be peaceful. we must hear each other, we must exemplify what is need to communicate peacefully without erupting into violence, and that is something that we have to bridge that gap between the movement of the 20th century and the 21st century. we must learn to be peaceful warriors. john lewis was certainly that. giver give alveda, soon we will see john lewis' american flag-draped coffin cross the edmund pettis bridge. talk to me about the significance of that image we will witness. >> well, i remember my uncle believed this, he believed in supporting the constitution of the united states. i never had that conversation with congressman lewis. however, it is interesting that the flag of the united states is draped over his coffin. so at the end of the day, we are all american, we all bleed e the same, we are human beings, not a separate race. and i think that the best tribute we can give to congressman lewis is to be peaceful, to negotiate peacefully, to celebrate his life, to settle our differences peacefully. if we want to remember john lewis, we have to do it in a peaceful manner. jedediah: thanks so much, al seed e da, for being here, as always. so much appreciated. >> thank you. jedediah: turn thousand to some extreme weather for you because overnight hannah downgraded to a tropical storm after battering southern texas. hannah made landfall as a hurricane slamming the state with 90 mile-per-hour winds and heavy rain. pete: hurricane douglas inches closer to the hawaiian coastline this morning. rick reichmuth's got the latest for us. rick: yeah. i'll get back to douglas in a second, we'll start with hannah. it was our first land-falling hurricane of this season even though we're already on the h name and we have some more things behind it. very early tale, the beginnings of hurricane season. this is hannah moving across parts of northeastern mexico, we still have only rain to fall, maybe another 2-3 inches, flood warnings in effect everywhere you see green and those red highlights are flash flooding because of all that moisture. i had said last hour, pete, and you're right that i thought hawaii was going to be spared ld, it's just so close. i shouldn't have written it off just yet. likely just to the north of the islands, that would put the islands probably in good position, but officially we're still watching potentially for a hurricane maybe around what wu wu -- work oahu and kauai. the worst of this thing off to the north. too closes to have written it off, i apologize. we're still watching that. also watching two different waves coming off the african coast, one of them likely to develop, and we'll continue to track that very closely right here. all right, guys, back to you. jedediah: thanks so much, rick. we appreciate it. we're going to turn to some headlines for you now. the daughter of actress kelsey grammer is stabbed outside a new york city restaurant. overnight police releasing this surveillance video of the attack, it shows she and her friend confronting a drunk man. officers pulled out a knife slashing her right arm and her friend's back. both received stitches at a hospital, police are canning for the public's health in -- asking for the public's health in naming the suspect. an 11-year-old boy is out of the hospital after being attacked by a shark in new smyrna beach, florida. >> i felt manager on my -- something on my foot, and i tarted -- started walking, and i couldn't really walk on it. then i noticed it was bleeding. >> he had surgery for a shredded tendon. he will be okay. new smyrna beach is known as the shark bite capital of the world. and the possible release of a reality winner because of covid-19. he tested positive for the virus in prison in texas and is arguing for compassionate release, however, the doj says she should stay put because she is asymptom mat ig. she bled guilty toll sending classified documents to the media in 2018. a mailman delivers smiles to a family in england. their home security camera capturing the mailman hopscotching his way to their front door. the family drew it to see if anyone would play. they loved it so much, they drew another game for him to play. those are your headlines. i miss hopscotch. i'm going to do that today when the show ends. pete: do you really? i'll be honest -- griff: yeah, no, it's great. i love it. he was playing along. pete: o.k., all right. i've got to give it another try. griff: will the me hop koch into this tease. republicans set to up veil their proposal for the next phase of covid-19 relief tomorrow. we're live in washington next. can my side be firm? and my side super soft? with the sleep number 360 smart bed, on sale now, you can both adjust your comfort with your sleep number setting. so, can it help us fall asleep faster? yes, by gently warming your feet. but can it help keep us asleep? absolutely, it intelligently senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. so you can really promise better sleep? not promise... prove. it's our weekend special, save up to $900 on select sleep number 360 smart beds. plus 0% interest for 24 months and free premium delivery when you add a base. ends monday. ♪ ♪ jedediah: u.s. coronavirus cases now topping 4.1 is million as the nation records -- more cases coming in. what can we expect in the new stimulus deal that is going to be coming down the pike? more on this from rich edson, he joins us now. >> reporter: hey, good morning. we've got expected more discussions this afternoon on capitol hill between administration officials and senate republican on crafting this next round of coronavirus economic relief. treasury secretary steve mnuchin, white house chief of staff mark meadows met with senate staff questioned to develop the republican -- met with staff yesterday. the original 600 boost to unemployment benefits that congress approved in march, that's now beginning to expire. republicans want a different formula this time, one they say insures a government benefit of no more than 70% of a worker's previous pay. mnuchin said, quote, we are prepared to move quickly. it's an important issue. we want to make sure there's a technical correction so that people don't get paid more money to stay home than to work. the administration is also looking at that same $1200 bonus to families, many american families. white house chief of staff mark meadows says, quote: i'm confident that if the democrats willing to focus on those who are unemployed and need assistance the most, they will find a way to at least address that need while we continue, perhaps, and negotiate beyond that. even if the white house and senate republicans agree to a plan, that just amounts to the opening republican offer. congressional democrats say they want to keep the $600 unemployment benefit and want hundreds of billions of dollars in additional state and local aid. johns hopkins university says there's been more than 4.1 million confirmed coronavirus cases in the united states with more than 146,000 deaths. that's more than,s that is part of more than 16 million confirmed cases worldwide and 640,000 deaths. back to you. pete: rich, thank you very much. you know, griff, you know in washington there's horse trading that goes on in moments like this especially when there's more or less a consensus that something needs to be done, and you have the looming reality of a presidential election where neither side wants to be looked at as not coming through for people in need at this moment. it seems to be just a matter of how much in either direction and of note, liability protection something republicans are talking about for companies as today try to reopen. griff: you know, you've got a good point there, pete, because the consensus isn't necessarily e the same right now because, remember, nancy pelosi's already passed a $3 trillion package x that's a long ways away from this one that began with about a trillion with mcconnell. and when you talk about what they're going to get done, ultimately you talked earlier to peter ma royce city, one -- morici, one of the top economists in the country, and here's a little bit of what he had to say about how to come his on this thing, listen. >> i expect. to see the unemployment benefits extended. it would really be nice if they weren't interrupted. they don't have to be at $600 a month. we can scale them back so people aren't being paid more to be unemployed than they were before. this is not a herculean task, and i think it's being demagogued on both sides. nancy i wants to give everyone more than they earn, and the republican playing to their base, some of them, by saying we don't want freeloaders. the reality is aid is needed, it's time to compromise and get it done. griff: the republicans in the senate and the white house not entirely on the same page. great point, pete. meanwhile, nasa's gearing up for a new mission to mars as they prepare to launch the perseverance -- pete: i'll get it for you. griff: sorry. administrator jim bridenstine gives us an inside look at what they have to discover coming up. ♪ ♪ reinventing. it's what small businesses do. with comcast business, your small business can work faster, with powerful internet from the nation's largest gig-speed network. work safer, with all your connected devices automatically protected by securityedge. and work anywhere, with comcast business at home, our new business-grade internet solution for remote workers. whatever your business needs, comcast business has the solutions to help you not just bounce back, but bounce forward. call or go online to find out more. but what if you could startdo better than that? 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>> so i'm a navy pilot myself, and i can tell you the united states navy, we fly close to other countries, competitive countries a lot, and this program is really about identifying capabilities, maybe unknown capabilities of other countries. that's what it's about. but you're absolutely right, we as an agency are interested in learning whether or not life either does or could have existed on other worlds. we know, for example, that mars used to be covered in an ocean for its northern hemisphere. we know that it used to have a thick atmosphere, and we know that it used to have a magnet9 that protected it from the radiation of deep space. so all of these things mars had. in other words, mars was at one time habitable. did life exist there and we now go find out evidence of ancient life on mars. griff: and lastly, your prediction when these findings come out, do we believe that folks who are conspiracy if theorists and others will be satisfied by what they learn? >> oh, i don't think folks will ever be satisfied -- [laughter] as nasa administrator, i can tell you there's always kinds of conspiracies. and i hear from all types of different people. but the reality is i think this is really a collection opportunity for the united states of america. griff: yep. jim bridenstine, we've got to leaf it there. grubbing with the perseverance rover and the mission later this week. >> thank you. griff: all right. coming up, the great brian kilmeade joins us live at the top to have next hour. he has gotten rest, he can confirm it, and he is ready to roll. stick around. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ we're always here to help you focus on your health. because it's always, time for care. ♪ ♪ pete: welcome to studio f for one-third of the program here on this sunday. there it is right in front of you, sunday, july 26th, the year of our lord, 2020, and i'm waving at you up here. welcome in and welcome as well in new york, jedediah bila as well as washington, d.c., the swamp, our swamp correspondent -- [laughter] griff jenkins, who we always love having. guys, i got my coffee, it says hot on it. it's because it's from mcdonald's. remember when they got sued because somebody spilled hot coffee and somehow -- red bull and some unidentified green juice. [laughter] jedediah: is this is celery juice, and this shot exemplifies us all. coffee, red bull, celery juice. audience at home, make your own judgment. griff: red bull supporting the big wave awards which just with launched, something to check out. so i think red bull wins, guys. sorry. pete: and mcdonald's supporting my breakfast every saturday and sunday morning. dave, is that not true? gary: jed's is healthy, we'll give her that. chaos in america, violent clashes erupting across the country. [gunfire] griff: one person shot and killed at a black lives matter protest in austin, texas. the suspect is now in custody. this seattle police declaring a riot after a construction site is torched. 21 police are hurt, 45 people arrested. pete: 21 police hurt. meanwhile, portland the 59th straight night of unrest, police using tear gas on rioters after they bring down a federal courthouse fence. rioters also setting an american flag on fire. a perfect picture of what they truly stand for and what they believe, watching it go up in flames. and police declaring an unlawful assembly in richmond if, virginia, after rioters set a dump truck on fire outside police headquarters. jedediah: and in colorado protesters rally outside aurora police headquarters hours after a car drives through a crowd. protesters reportedly shot at the driver, injuring two people. really incredible photos and images that we're seeing pop up around the country. forfying. you think of the -- terrifying. you think of the residents that run businesses, have their families there, maybe they themselves wanted to engage in peaceful protests but have seen their cities completely overrun by violence, by the burning of the american flag, the destruction of businesses, cities quite literally going up in smoke. now federal authorities there trying to protect those federal buildings and create some order that local law enforcement has in some cases been up able to do and that -- unable to do and that in many cases has been stymied by local politicians who have prevented them from doing the job they so desperately need to do to protect those communities. pete: this is an intentional, ongoing assault on our country. call them marxists, call them antifa, anarchists, domestic terrorists, whatever you want. if you're attacking federal buildings, law enforcement officers, police officers, doing so intentionally for some purported political purpose, you're no longer anywhere near a peaceful protest. and that's e what ken coupe knell hi e and the acting dhs secretary said on our program. not exactly, but here's what he said exactly about these protests. >> they're close to two straight months of violence every sting single day in -- single day in portland because their own mayor ties the hands of police. the laser attacks, the tire puncturing, these are all violent acts. they use commercial fireworks, mortars, they shoot them sideways instead of up at officers. they've hit at least three officers that way. at the same time, they use those lasers to attack their eyes. that's what our officers are facing. these are not peaceful protesters, these are violent anarchists. pete: it's also very political. we're on the eve of an election, less than 100 days now. these protesters hate donald trump, his supporters, what they represent, and this is also a manifestation of that, guys. griff: yeah, and looks like it's going to continue. meanwhile, we continue to also follow another big story this morning, a sad one, and that is the loss of tv legendary tv giant regis philbin. we want to bring in brian kilmeade, host of "fox & friends," and he spent a lot of time with regis. brian, good morning to you. >> hey, guys. how's everybody to doing? jed, what's going on? jedediah: we're doing well. i saw you on the curvy couch with regis philbin, a tv legend. that had to be an experience, brian. >> yeah. i mean, a bunch of things with regises in particular. so the first time i came and talked -- i always really liked him. that first 20 minutes of that morning show even before it was nationally syndicated, it was only in the new york region, was awesome. and the more we do this, you know, we have three or four topics, okay? so we're talking about riots, number two we might talk about china, number three, unemployment. okay, fine. we had topics. there'd be no news to lean on necessarily. he'd are to talk about his dinner the night before, maybe a thing he had coming up over the weekend, a pop he had with one of his kids x he had to do it only seeing his cohosts five minutes before the show. i know we get about 90 seconds -- [laughter] but to see them do it every single day for 20, 30 minutes for people that do what we do, i'm in awe. and the more i do this, the more i'm in awe that he was able to do it because he couldn't grab necessarily the big stories of the day, the breaking news. he had to talk about slice of life. talk about slice of life for 20 minutes and the first time i ever saw him was in college, i went to school right outside new york city, and they said there's one live show taped in new york city. he told our whole class to go in. we wanted to watch the morning show, and he couldn't fit us all in. so i had to come back again on my own, and i was pull out of the audience, and i actually interacted with him live on the show, came back interviewed him for the radio, and i have a few pictures of me when i was in college, and he gave me steady advice throughout the next 20 plus years. and then when he was finally able to write a book and do a tour, had a chance to meet him. he actually joined fox sports for a little bit. pete: brian, america looking right now at those pictures, i think they're probably looking more at college-age brian, to be honest. [laughter] but regis as well. i didn't realize he had such a big influence on your life. by the way, i would sign up for 20 minutes nonstop of brian kilmeade talking about what he had for dinner last night -- [laughter] sign me up. i think you could do that very well. you have the same at tickets. but you -- attributes. you felt like you knew regis, all these years on the morning show, he just seemed to connect like someone you wanted to know more about. >> well, one thing i know about fox, for better or worse, this is you. i have news watching at home, this is us. we're not acting. we don't change our voice, our look, to our opinions. and he was the first one and carson as a viewer where you really thought that, okay. the camera goes on, here he is. that's regis. and one thing he brought up in his book, he said my problem was i got out of the military, and i had no discernible talent, but i knew i wanted television x. jack parr, who you can seeded steve allen and who was in between johnny carson and steve allen, gave regis hope because he was also a conversationalist. he couldn't sing, he couldn't dance, he wasn't a magician like carson x. he said, wow, if that guy can do it, that are's what i want to do. and chet kohl writer with, who was the first one to look at my tape and bring me in to fox was the one that hired regis out on the west coast. and he talked about what he did and how hard he worked. regis outworked people. he wore you out. he did a finance show at the same time he was doing -- a fitness show at the same time he was doing a national television show, at the same time he was doing all types of specials. you're in your 60s, you're already rich beyond belief, what drives you. and it was just that drive to be better and born in the bronx he always thought he was going to lose everything tomorrow because he grew up in the depression, and he watched his parents lose everything. he used to say you're going to end up in the poorhouse if you don't keep working. that was the track that was in his mind his whole life. jedediah: brian, we have a 2013 flashback of you and rhee chris on the red carpet. -- regis. >> confident. [laughter] >> sorry. now, there's a chance you're going to be shooting in our building, and that means we're going to get in the line together, get a big salad, see each other in the hall. how do i act? >> when that begins, you should call me mr. regis. yeah. >> will you answer? >> only to mr. rhee chris. say good bye, mr. regis. >> good-bye, mr. regis. >> that's it. [laughter] >> classic regis. >> right. the other thing he did, he worked out all the time. when i work at the reebok club, we actually did a workout interview to together. i did it shirtless so, pete, you must be jealous. [laughter] pete: really? >> i'm only kidding. we actually had it taped, i don't know if it made the library. but that was also sitting there ad libbing looking at cnbc talking about stocks he owns, different philosophies, i thought to myself, man, he cared about that segment on a channel he probably doesn't even watch with a guy he didn't even know. that's part of bringing it every day. every appearance mattered, and that's what i i learned just from being around the guy. griff: and what our viewers learned is what you look like in college. we should show e our viewerser that one more time. you have, we should point out, quite some style in your sweaters. did you put a lot of thought into those sweat ors? [laughter] >> you know what? pete, i did notice, he always talks about how griff is jealous of how you dress? i'm getting it now. that was mole skin. that was one of these sweaters that actually she woulded like a german shepard during the day. i had to wear two t-shirts and another collared shirt just to wear that sweater -- [laughter] and i was wrong, and i'm looking at the picture right there, and i was wrong to think i looked good in it. sadly, because i like regis in my office, that picture's still this today, and the guy i share that picture with is rick thatcher, all american goalie ifer cause. just could not get enough of being around television and he was my inspiration because i can't sing and dance either. [laughter] griff: the one and only brian kilmeade, and i will admit, i will confess, i have sweater envy, for sure. brian, that was great, thank you very much. pete: thank you, brian. go back to bed. it's your day off. there we go. griff: see? and just like that, he is gone. turning now to your headlines starting with this fox news alert, hannah downgraded to a tropical storm overnight as it batters texas. off it goes, indeed. hannah making landfall as a hurricane, slamming the state with 90 mile-per-hour winds and heavy rain, massive winds in corpus christi the. even more flooding could come today. meanwhile, hawaii bracing for impact as hurricane douglas inches closer to the coastline this morning. we are watching it. and today the late congressman john lewis will make his final crossing over the edmund pettis bridge in selma, alabama. his casket will be carried across the bridge, it's where the civil rights icon was brutally beaten on bloody sunday. a motorcade will then carry lewis to alabama's capitol building where he will lie in state. we will have more on services later this hour as lewis' celebration of life enters its second day. and those are your headlines. pete? pete: thank you very much. the race to the white house now in its final lap with 10 days left -- 100 days left on the campaign trail. can voters still be swayed? we're going to ask 2020 campaign national press secretary hogan gidley about that coming up next. muck. ♪ ♪ pete: with under 100 days to go until november's presidential election, some votes still up for grabs. 13% of americans say their vote can be swayed according to a new "wall street journal"/nbc news poll. so how can the trump campaign get them to move their direction in november? let's ask trump 02020 campaign national press secretary hogan gidley. thanks for being on the show. so we take all polls, especially that one and others, with a massive grain of salt. but let's take the premise, basically, that there is a chunk of persuadable voters. what's your message to that group going to be? >> well, first of all, let me start by offering my sincere condolences to congressman lewis and his family, what they're dealing with right now, the death of the civil rights icon. he was, he was strong, he was a leader in a time of turmoil in this country, and your heart goes out to them and to his family, and my thoughts and prayers are with them. as far as the polls are concerned as we get into things political revolve ising around the upcoming election, let's be clear. once again we see a poll that vastly oversamples democrats. 33% of gop respondents were sampled in exit polling in 2016. this particular poll, 26%. that's a 7% difference. so, obviously, things are going to swing vastly to the left in the answers. i can point out the fact though, it e kind of made me chuckle, even with the oversampling of democrats, only about 14% said they were really enthusiastic about joe biden. who can blame them? all he talks about is some child loving to rub his leg hair and not knowing what year year 9/11 happened, all the missteps and mistake of arizona being called a city. i understand why they want the keep him in the basement and why so many people aren't enthusiastic. you compare and contrast that with how much excitement we have on our side, vast numbers of republicans registering to vote and so many of the king, key swing states. hundreds of thousands of people on the democrat rolls in the states where they actually allow registration by party, it's been a vast decrease in the those battleground states and a vast increase for us. people want this president to be in office another four years, and you' i that in so many areas across -- you see that in so many areas across the country not to mention the economy is on it way back. but also the uplifting, unifying, patriotic message moving forward, trying to get our city streets back under control, protect the safety and security of everyday americans just trying to make ends meet and working out there in jobs created by policies of this prime minister. elections are about choices -- by this president. there is no choice, it's all president trump. pete: ohio began, to that -- hogan, to that or persuadable voter, in this home stretch what's the bumper sticker, one or two-line sell to them to reelect president trump? >> well, a vote for president trump is a vote for you. a vote for president trump is a vote for future success for every single american regardless of race, color, creed e and religion. you don't have to guess what would happen if joe biden were president. we saw it for eight years. we saw the economy crumbling, depressed wage, all of the jobs leaving. compare and contrast that with this president expect successes we saw for all americans, job creation, record high stock market. that's what this president's going to do. joe biden's going the take us backwards, president trump is going to take us into the future. pete: ohio hogan gidley, thank o much. we appreciate. >> thanks so much, pete. pete: lawmakers clash other how and and and if to reopen classrooms. one former professor walks us through what the future of education could look like, next. look here, it's your very own all-in-one entertainment experience: xfinity x1. it's the easiest way to watch live tv and all your favorite streaming apps. plus, x1 also includes peacock premium at no extra cost. this baby is the total package. it streams exclusive originals, the full peacock movie library, complete collections of iconic tv shows, and more. yup, the best really did get better. magnificent. xfinity x1 just got even better, with peacock premium included at no additional cost. no strings attached. ♪ ♪ questioned jed welcome back. we are here with some headlines. on tuesday attorney jen william barr is scheduled to testify for a general oversight hearing. barr is expected to be asked about the firing of a top manhattan prosecutor expect government's role in handling violent protests. and on wednesday, four big tech ceos are set to testify in an antitrust hearing on the hill. facebook's mark zuckerberg, amazon's jeff bezos and apple's tim cook are all scheduled to appear p. twitter ceo jack dorsey was invited but hasn't responded. to and on thursday, vice president pence will host a cops for trump event. pete? pete: thank you, jed. well, we've been telling you about the guidelines for schools to safely reopen, stressing the importance of in the-person learning. griff: the strategy to get kids back in the classroom setting up a heated tween lawmakers on -- clash between lawmakers on capitol hill. joining us now, former professor carol swain. good morning to you. now, we hope that something will get unveiled and looks like the most recent covid package has about $105 billion for the schools. what are your thoughts as congress tries to get its act together, and will that be enough? >> well, first of all, if you look at what world experts are saying like the american academy of pediatricians, the hospital in toronto, experts in the u.k., children are not at risking of either contracting or spreading covid-19. they need to get back to school. there's great risk for them staying at home. it disrupts the family structure, it disrupt learning, and it hurts the poorest children most of all news bay don't have -- most of all because they don't have the resources for them while they work. jedediah: obviously, there's always still risk of contracting it, and some of the kids have developed some inflammatory condition so that, of course, is lingering in the back of some parents' minds. but i want do you, you're a former professor, what are your thoughts on how this could potentially be implemented in a pool? is there social distancing? would kids be able to wear a mask for hours on end during the day? some parents have concerns if they send their kids to school, are they really going to get good, in-person learning with so many guidelines the teachers will have to implement in the classroom setting? >> again, i go back to what i said earlier, there's plenty of experts out there worldwide saying that children are not more likely to contract the decide or to spread it. and, of course, there'll always be children that have pre-existing conditions. they would have to take more precautions. but this whole idea that you are have to just totally rearrange a school, requiring maul children to wear a masking, it's not supported by the science. everything we're doing with covid-19, coronavirus, politics underlies everything x. whether we like it or not, there are people that don't care about the children, they care about the election, and they see an opportunity to hurt president trump by keeping everything hut down. and so -- shut down. and so whatever's taking place in congress not about our nation's health, it's not about the children first, it's about political agendas. unfortunately, that's the way it is in america today. pete: carol, you've experienced personally and written a week about -- a book about politics in education. senator tom cotton introduced a bill that'll withhold funding for schools that taught this 1619 project. i'm kind of two minds, what alternatives do parents have, you know, virtually or in person to avoid things like teaching their kids 1619 is the real founding of america in. >> i know exactly what you're talking about, public schools, private school, even christian schools are being ruined. so there's home schooling, there are charter schools, there are private schools that are opening up with in-person learning, and they're taking various precautions that they see necessary. but there are alternatives and the parents can how many school, they should especially in those lawyers where they are trying to keep children out of school. they have become indoctrination factories. they teach white kids to hate themselves, they teach black kids to hate whites, they teach them to hate america. that's not going to move us forward. we are destroying our country and intock try nateing our -- indoctrinating our -- [inaudible conversations] griff: just to be clear, that's an opinion of many parents, but we've got the leave it there for now. thank you for coming on and a lot of parents -- >> thank you. griff: -- concerned about what their kids are being taught as well as the dangers of covid. meanwhile, coming up, major flooding expected in texas today as tropical storm hannah batters the lone star state. texas congressman louie gohmert joins us live with an update next. >> there it egos! griff: back with extreme weather. overnight hannah downgraded to a tropical storm after battering southern texas. the storm slammed the state with 90 mile-per-hour winds and heavy rain. pete: meanwhile, hawaii bracing for impact, hurricane warnings issued this morning as hurricane douglas inches closer. meteorologist rick reichmuth is tracking it all in his own weather center and joins us live with the latest. good morning. rick: good morning, guys. yeah, first hurricane of the season, of this this season, hitting texas yesterday, making land arefall as a 90 mile-an-hour storm, really strong. across parts of northeastern mexico right now, so most of that moisture is going to move in towards mexico, but maybe another 2 to 3 inches of rain falling across texas there, continued flooding. this is hurricane douglas. it's moving really fast, potentially by this evening getting very close towards oahu and maybe kauai as well. hurricane force winds only extend out 25 miles an hour on that storm so so not a large storm. hopefully we'll be spared here. want to show you across parts of the u.s. right now, pretty significant rain obviously still because of hannah, till some showers across parts of the central gulf. and then we've been watching a lot of monsoonal moisture across parts of colorado the next couple days and to the north side of that, some really heavy rain. i would like on sunday to show you the preis sippation we're folk fob -- precipitation we're watching this week. here you go, could cause some flooding and the other stories guys, is the heat returning across much of the mid-truck and towards the northeast, another heat wave in store, temps above 90 for the next three days. guys? pete: love it. jedediah: thanks, rick, we appreciate it. we're going to brung in texas congressman louie gohmert live with an update as major flooding is expected today in texas. welcome to the show, as always. can you give us the heatest on the clean-up effort -- latest on the clean-up effort with respect to hannah and what's going on right now in. >> the tough part is that it comes on top of covid, and south texas has been hit pretty hard. you know, a lot of people have come across the border and brought covid in. that's an area that's really, was already hit hard. but it you'll recall whether it's harvey or other hurricanes, texas does pretty well in dealing with emergencies. governor greg abbott has been completely on top of it, as you know. the hurricane was downgraded since it hit land are, but it's till brought a lot of rain, and that's been the biggest problem. the winds have been downgraded but the rain keeps coming. it's headed toward northern mexico, but, you know, we've got the emergency personnel there ready and helping. griff: congressman, let me ask you, obviously, being here in washington and covering congress, we'll all be watching to see whether or not mitch mcconnell unveils finally the covid-19 plan. looks like the white house and republicans in the senate are getting closer to agreement. what are your thoughts as you see it on the house side? >> well, we're concerned about the giveaway programs to help the democratic party. we've seen some of those in the prior covid legislation and, of course, both republican senators and republican house members are are concerned about the efforts of democrats to stifle the economy by leaving open the door to litigation just overwhelming employers and businesses that open. so that's been a top priority. and the question is how much giveaway programs that don't necessarily help the covid victims the house democrats and schumer are going to demand in order to get the immunity from liability. pete: congressman, i've got to get your take on one more thing. you've never been accused of not being a fighter. we're in this moment where statues are being torn down, cancel culture everywhere, and i actually had this video sent to me by a couple people. you took to the house floor and introduced a resolution that would ban the democrat party. explain. >> well, everybody knows -- or they should if they don't -- that slavery has been pushed and protected by the democratic party. that's where it come from, that's where the defenses come from, and it wasn't just in the 1800s after the civil war. they're the ones that have been protecting it, they're the ones that pushed jim crow laws, they're the ones that did not support the 14th and 15th amendment at all, no support from the democratic party. and even the 1924 democratic national convention was called the klan bake because of the i ku klux klan's influence. they were an extension of the democratic party. so we're going to hold the democrats to the same standards that they want to hold everybody else to and get rid of anybody vestiges of slavery, it means getting rid of the democratic party. so we're just trying to hold them to the same standards they want to hold everybody else to. griff: somehow i suspect that the speaker, nancy pelosi, disagrees with this. i'm not sure that's going to see the light of day. [laughter] just finally devastated just so they can get back in power. that is horrendous. the republican are never felt that way and -- have never felt that way and still do not. pete: representative louie gohmert, thanks for joining us. >> great to be with you. pete: seven people are shot including two kids at a house party near sacramento. the homeowner said he wasn't there because he wented out the house to a man -- he wented out the house to a man online. >> the guy said they're going to get together to relax before his friend goes to the military. never expect it here. you look over this there's cornfields and over here this is really a ranch country kind of lifestyle. pete: two people remain in critical condition. no arrests have yet been made. and the man caught on camera putting an nypd officer in a head lock is, you guessed it, out on bail. he is charged with assault for the first -- for the july 1st attack. he turned himself in a week later. he was freed on just a $15,000 bail. the officer needed stitches for a cut on his head. and former california senator barbara boxer says she regrets voting to create the department of homeland security. the democrat writing a washington post op-ed criticizing the department's presence in portland saying she never thought it would, quote, be used against our own people. and she's one of the most famous fictional characters of all time. >> tiffany's? you mean the jewelry store? >> that's right. i'm crazy about tiffany's. pete: but holly go lightly, did i protowns that correct -- proannounce that correctly? from "breakfast at tiffany's, she was originally called connie gustafson is. the name was changed at the last minute. that manuscript up for auction and could sell for $230,000. griff,ish know those names, i don't -- [laughter] griff: i was reveling, listening to you talk about holly go lightly. pete: is that not right? i don't even know. griff: no, i think it is. jedediah: no, it's good. [laughter] he got it right. and audrey hepburn is my queen, so i'll just lee it at that. [laughter] moving trucks are spotted at the u.s. consulate in china as a diplomatic showdown grows overnight. maria bartiromo says china has met their match with president trump, and she joins us next. ♪ ♪ pete: coming up in 14 minutes and 17 seconds on "sunday morning futures," senator lindsey graham and acting dhs is secretary chad wolf with. one topic you can surely expect as well, china and the threat it poses to the united states. maria always all over that. gary give this as -- griff: this as moving trucks are spotted overnight as the china demands the u.s. consulate closure after the u.s. shut down china's consulate in houston. jedediah: here to weigh in, maria bartiromo. maria, welcome to the show, as always. tell us the latest on this consulate closing and the implication for future u.s./china relations. >> hey, guys, good morning to you. hook, senior officials tell me that consulates in general just by their very nature will always have some kind of intelligence services. look, this is a foreign government in our country. so is take that with a grain of salt just knowing about consulates in general. in this situation in particular, you have foreigners basically misusing the visa process, and you had at least one individual concealing her ties to the chinese military, and that's what you're seeing increasingly in this country, ties to the chinese military, abusing our visa program. that's why i have in front of me a list of indictments from various universities. don't forget charles leiber, the head of the biology and chemistry division of harvard, he was indicted because he was part of, and others, are part of the thousand talents program which is a program that the chinese set up to try to reward talented people, but they have also abused that program by spying. there's a massive espionage campaign going on in this country by the chinese communist government. the u.s. is aware of it, and they are now cracking down on anybody who is abusing our student visa a programs, our work visa programs as well as getting through in terms of espionage through university withs because you have a whole number of people who are getting paid by universities. you saw that at harvard, in arkansas, at the cleveland clinic, and they're also getting paid by the ccp. the u.s. is on to it, they are cracking down in a significant way, and that's what you seeing increasingly. the coronavirus basically hope opened the door for the if u.s. to start scrutinizing china ooh's and its communist party's behavior x that includes everything from espionage to buying influence, acquiring companies, stealing their technology. you know for three years the trump administration tried to get china to stop. it was no deal, they would not even admit the stealing intellectual property. here's where we are today. pete: yeah. the diplomatic gloves appear to be off. we'll see what the next move is. and and you've got chad wolf on your show, there's a protest planned outside his house. i'm sure you'll can him about that as well. maria, thank you so much -- >> yes. just want to say we're also going to be breaking news on the coup that failed, den nunes -- den nunes on that as well. president president still ahead, millions of americans moved by one illinois' police officer's final farewell. that officer joins us on the other side of the break. ♪ ♪ [inaudible] jedediah: an illinois police officer overcome we emotion. pete: officer will taylor. griff: he joins us with his wife who filmed that touching moment. good morning to you both. let me be the first to say congratulations and thank you for your service. what are your thoughts this morning? >> a little nervous, actually. [laughter] pete: don't be nervous. it's not like your job. you have a real job with. we talk with makeup on our faces. >> "fox & friends" has been my favorite show every day, and it's just amazing to be on the show. pete: it's our honor, absolutely. what's going through your head when you're making that final call and you're tearing up and reflecting on your career, sir? >> i, just overwhelming that i've been doing this more than half my life and that i'm looking out across the parking lot at all my coworkers and knowing i wasn't going to be ever doing this again. it's a funny thing, at the time we were having that big storm here, got like 7 inches of rain, expect parking lot's flooded, we were soaking wet. she did the ride along with me for the last day and -- >> chaos. >> i could barely speak. griff: kelly, how do you feel about this? i mean, you know, this is a guy that's used to giving orders, and now you're going to have him at home all day long for now until eternity. [laughter] >> well, he has a a man cave that he can escape too when i don't want to see him anymore for a while, to we're going to work that outment. [laughter] pete: and -- go ahead. jedediah: yeah. we've obviously just been in a very trying time in the country right now, and if you could just speak, will, a little bit to what it was like for you to be a police officer and what you'll be taking with you through now this new stage of retirement from all of those years of service. >> it's just the best job i ever had. even though all this drama's going on throughout the country, i hope it doesn't disyounger anybody because -- discourage anybody because it still is the best job there is. helping the community, helping citizens is just, it doesn't get any better. pete: what's your message to the young guys still in the department who have 20 years in front of them and they're wondering should i do this job? >> yeah, we talked about it last week there, you know, joking around about how much time they have left, the we could tier guys -- second tier guys, but they still love it. around here we don't have the drama going on throughout the country. we're still well respected and loved here in our community. and we all love working here. griff: yeah, or but, kelly, as a spouse, as a family member of someone for 29 years that has seen her husband go into harm's way, it's got to be a trying time. they say, you know, that even the spouses and family members are part of the police force as well. >> oh, definitely. definitely. there's been times when i'm listening to the police radio at home and i are to shut it off because i got too nervous or, you know, like there was a baa baa -- a bad call. but, you know, you just get used to it after 30 years. jedediah: will and kelly taylor, thank you so much for being here today and, will, thank you again for your service and have an amazing retirement. [laughter] pete: don't spend too much time in the man cave. make dipper for her tonight -- dinner for her tonight or something. [laughter] jedediah: more "fox & friends" is coming up moments away. . . . this country was not built on white-collar, it was built on blue-collar, hard work. hard work means every day. getting it right. it's so iconic, you can just sit it on a shelf if it's missing, you know it. your family, my family, when they drink that coffee, and go "man, that's a good cup," i'm proud because i helped make that cup. ♪ pete: thank you for joining us all four hours. jedi jaw, griff jenkins, the swamp monster, do not forget, go to church. ♪ maria: good sunday morning everyone. thank you for joining us. welcome to sunday morning futures. i'm maria bartiromo. crime, coronavirus and china dominating the headlines this morning as congress scrambles to hammer out the next federal stimulus package before millions of americans lose their extra unemployment benefit before the end of the month. this against the backdrop of the 2020 election 99 days away. president trump canceling all jacksonville events in. he says he is the law and order
to add seats to make the super legislature rather than have them sit back and do the judging. steve: congratulations to the dodgers and at 6:01 in the east. we start with a fox news alert. it was a second night of rioting in philadelphia after police killed a black man armed with a knife two days ago. police say at least 1,000 looters trashed and ransacked stores across the city. brian: aishah hasnie live in fill whether i a first hand look. watching looting of all these stores live on television. jill. >> yeah, good morning to you steve, brian and ainsley. standing here in person watching this happen. it was happening a little while ago a couple people walked into these stores to see what was left. i want to talk about the store behind me. the walmart store right here is completely a disaster zone. i want to point out the bullets on the ground that are all over the place gives you a good idea of what these looters were going after. what they wanted to steal. more than 1,000 looters ransacking stores just like this one. i want to show you some video from overnight, too. looters carrying away dozens of tvs. christmas trees. get, this guys. someone even wheeled away a washing machine. a whole washing machine on a dolly. it's just craze. we also saw very heavy police presence on this second night of unrest. one officer was injured in these clashes. and now we are hearing from the presidential candidates about what's happening here in philadelphia. the biden campaign releasing a statement that reads in part looting is not a protest. it is a crime. it draws attention away from the real tragedy of a life cut short. the white house also releasing a statement hitting back at democrats though. they said this: the riots in philadelphia are the most recent consequences of the liberal democrats war against police. the trump administration stands proudly with law enforcement and stands ready upon request to deploy any and all federal resources to end these riots. now, the chaos obviously erupting as authorities investigate the death of walter wallace jr. police say they ordered him, who by the way had a criminal history, who drop a knife but he continued to move towards those officers in this video who then each fired seven shots at him. the police commissioner says they did not have tasers at the time. they have been placed on desk duty as the da now promises to review body cam footage that has not yet been released to the public. guys, answers could not come soon enough as the state has now called up the army national guard to be deployed if and when necessary. steve, brian, ainsley? steve: all right. aishah hasnie in philadelphia with the news choppers overhead. we thank you very much. meanwhile it is six days to go until election day. joe biden and president trump trading shots on the campaign trail yesterday and there were a lot of them. ainsley: they were. biden calling trump a con man while the president predicts a depression if he loses. brian: griff jenkins live in pittsburgh with a focus on the battle ground state of pennsylvania, griff. griff: hey, brian, ainsley and steve, good morning to you. tcialg pennsylvania may determine the outcome of the elections. to understand it politically you have to imagine the state as pittsburgh and philadelphia on either side with alabama in the middle. and boy was it close last time with 2016. president trump flipped the state red by a mere 44,000 votes. it looks like it's that close again. if you look at the latest real clear politics average. we can show you biden leading trump by less than four points. now, both candidates have been putting a big emphasis on this state. the president hammering biden on particular lit oil and gas industry. forcing biden to walk back his position on fracking. meanwhile, as you mentioned yesterday, in michigan and georgia, the two candidates just savaged each other. watch. >> this election is a choice between a trump super recovery or a biden depression. you are going to have a depression. >> we have seen chart ton, a con man, the phoney populist who sought to play on our fears, appear to our worst appetites and pick at the oldest scabs they have for their own political gain. griff: 2 million pennsylvania voters have voted in the keystone could keep us holding on past november 3rd. any will be ballot dated by election day will be counted three days after. ivanka trump has appearance while first lady melania was in the philadelphia area yesterday. >> joe biden uption policy and socialist agenda will only serve to destroy america and all that has been built in the past four years. >> on the campaign trail, the president heads to arizona for two rallies today while biden is not traveling although is he going to deliver remarks in wilmington later today. brian, ainsley, steve? steve: he's good at that all right, griff, thank you very much. it is interesting. when you look at the number of people who have already early voted, either in personal or via mail-in ballot 67.8 million have mailed in or early voted. that is half of the entire number of people who voted back in 2016. what is interesting though is the fact that when you look at the democrats have made prediction. will early votes. we need to have 70% of our voters in early. in florida, iowa, north carolina, pennsylvania, and arizona, the democrats are actually short of that target. and, of course, big threat for them ainsley and brian. republicans are planning on a lot of their voters showing up on tuesday. the actual day of the election. ainsley: yeah, friends in new york who went to vote had to stand in line for several hours. can you drop off if you got an absentee ballot at the front door you don't have to wait in line. a lot of republicans are planning to go on that day. i imagine it's going to be a long wait. they say it's worth it and they wants to do it. if you look at -- you know, all the polls say different things. they have -- the overall polls have joe biden up about 5 points nationwide. dave wasserman who in writing for the 5:38 back in 2016, is he one of the very few that predicted that president trump would win. getting that electoral vote. but he saying now it's time to sound the alarm. he says joe biden is likely to be the next president. but you have matt toury political analyst. he is saying there with one thing that the polls are not taking into account, listen to this. >> we have to remember one thing, donald trump is the most dynamic presidential candidate of my lifetime. i have never seen anything like it. and him personally going to these locations and drawing people out physically in semi rural and rural areas where they need to pile those votes up. that's going to going to come back home in a big way to donald trump on election night. i don't think these polls are picking that up. seems to be working for joe biden to not have anything on his schedule because is he up in the polls. we are curious to find out how this is going to resonate on election day with the president going out and doing two or three rallies every single day, brian. brian: interesting too he is going to georgia and sending harris over to texas. really are you trying to expand the map or seal off the map. think about how the president is surging in florida and pennsylvania. so secure and perhaps in ohio it? >> became official we know tony bobulinski came out before the last debate and gave his written statement about his dealings with the biden family how he was asked to come in and help out the bidens on international business affairs. they recruited him. so few people picked thumb story it was a bombshell. people weren't interested in finding out what joe biden and his family were doing while he was vice president. while, perhaps, when he was senator in between those two and a half year when will president of the united states. sat down with detail. when he cass walled out by adam schiff as part of a russian disinformation campaign. think about this. if you are a patriot. if you served time in the military. if your dad and grandfather have done the same thing and then adam schiff goes on television and said what you just saw was russian disinformation. your integrity is called out. now suddenly you are working for the enemy who you plotted and planned against for patriotic causes. so tony bobulinski sat down for an hour, maybe longer. we saw an hour with tucker carlson. when he talked about specifically with backup documentation of his dealings with the biden family and his two meetings with joe biden, listen. >> sitting with jim biden and hunter biden. and joe came through the lobby with his security and hunter introduced me as this is tony, dad, the individual i telling you about that is helping us with the business that we are working on and the chinese. will will will. >> tucker: the former vice president said he had no knowledge whatsoever of his son's business dealings and was not involved in them. >> that's a blatant lie. when he states that, that's a blatant lie. when i attended the debate last thursday and in that debate he made a specific statement around questions around this from the president and i will be honest with you, i almost stood up and screamed lier and walked out because i was shocked that after four days or five days that they prepared for this that the biden family is taking that position. brian: this energy company with i dos to the chinese communist party. dad did business with led by hunter biden bobulinski screaming at chinese officials saying you owe me $20 million for the last two years of work. hooking him up with romania, poland, monaco, kazakhstan and ukraine. wait a second jim biden and joe biden. family business hooked up with multiple countries for, what? their influence with the biden name. two times they met with joe biden. when they went over and asked during from joe biden to bobulinski was we asked you look out for my son, who we know well chronicled drug problems. why, if you are the father that's concerned about your son would you play a role or even know about putting him in high stakes international money deal knowing that when addicts are dealing in stress that's the easiest time for them to relapse and you put your family fortunes on his back while questioning this guy bobulinski's integrity? this thing is blowing up and people have to pay attention. steve: i will tell you what, what was really interesting what what tony bobulinski told tucker last night essentially on october the 18th, about three weeks ago. about three weeks ago, tony talked to a former partner in the business by the name of rob walker who hadn't worked in the clinton administration and in the bush administration. what he was doing and, brian, you alluded to this. he was demanding that adam schiff retract the claim that the laptop and everything else that bobulinski had provided was russian disinformation and was a smear on joe biden. tony told walker if he does not come out on the record and say that it was russian disinformation, he was going to provide the facts and walker said oh, tony, you are just going to bury all of us, man. that's where we are are right here. he also recounted a story about how he was walking to a car with joe biden in los angeles and joe said to him his parting remark was keep an eye on my son and my brother and look out for my family, ainsley. ainsley: the question is were they using their family's influence access to the vice president to make millions of dollars that would be a crime if that allegation turns out to be true. blins said he is on the receiving end of these emails he told tucker on may 13th, 2017, i actually got one of these emails outlining a plan to have 10% of their company ow oneida holdings held by h for the wig guy held by hunter for the big guy and he said the big guy was joe biden. brian: let me expand on that why is joe biden's percentage went from 10% to 20%. who was he collecting for? where is that money today? and why does the fbi have this laptop for almost a year and we heard nothing? steve: what's so interesting about this story is it would be so easy for the biden campaign to tamp down. they could go look, that wasn't his laptop. or we have never met with tony bobulinski. but, instead, they choose radio silence. ainsley: well, that's because the networks aren't going to cover it. they covered very little of it. steve: let's see if anybody covers us covering that. in the meantime 6:14 on this wednesday morning. jillian: it is wednesday, yes. welcome to wednesday. steve: i know, long week already. jillian: only half over. begin with this fox news alert now. at least four officers are hurt following violent protests in washington, d.c. overnight. [explosions. jillian: police deploying tear gas and smoke bombs. unrest started over the death of keron hilton. he died after driving a scooter away from a traffic stop and hit a car. protesters smashing wind dose at police precinct and shattering cop cars at least one person in custody. hurricane celebrate that "star trek" as it heads to the gulf coast. set to make landfall in louisiana this afternoon. mandatory evacuations have been ordered for parts of new orleans. the storm already leaving a path of destruction in mexico. zeta is expected to bring heavy rain, powerful winds and storm surge up to 8 feet. texas' supreme court is upholding limits. >> the ruling means each county will be limited to one dropoff site. a legal battle over the order has blasted for several weeks. democrats say it's unfair to voters in larger counties. but the court rules voters have many options including early in person voting. well it's a celebration 32 years in the making. the los angeles dodgers are once again world series champs. >> dodgers have won it all in 2020. jillian: the dodgers beat the rays 3 to 1 in game 6. third baseman justin turner was pulled from the game after testing positive for covid-19. he returned to celebrate on the field. turner says he feels great and has no symptoms. fans back in los angeles celebrating well into the night setting off fireworks al over the city. one car catching fire after doing donuts over fireworks. no arrests are reported. congrats to them. brian: they got the lakers and the dorgets now in los angeles. ainsley: i hope it was worth it the that guy lost his car. brian: no bars are open to celebrate in. celebrate in backyard 6 feet apart. ainsley: congratulations to them long time coming. thanks, jillian. many are down playing the reports about hunter biden. >> sci-fi tail about hunter biden and martians and chinese. >> attack joe biden on conspiracy theories. ainsley: gerry baker says the media is not supposed to be guarding joe biden. he joins us next to explain. ♪ ♪ everybody say ♪ find your rhythm. your happy place. find your breaking point. then break it. every emergen-c gives you a potent blend of nutrients so you can emerge your best with emergen-c. inflammation in your eye might be to blame.ck, looks like a great day for achy, burning eyes over-the-counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes and may provide temporary relief. ha! these drops probably won't touch me. xiidra works differently, targeting inflammation that can cause dry eye disease. what is that? xiidra, noooo! it can provide lasting relief. xiidra is the only fda approved treatment specifically for the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease. one drop in each eye, twice a day. don't use if you're allergic to xiidra. common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort or blurred vision when applied to the eye, and unusual taste sensation. don't touch container tip to your eye or any surface. after using xiidra, wait 15 minutes before reinserting contacts. got any room in your eye? talk to an eye doctor about twice-daily xiidra. i prefer you didn't! xiidra. not today, dry eye. she always wanted her smile to shine. now, she uses a capful of therabreath healthy smile oral rinse to give her the healthy, sparkly smile she always wanted. 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i know joe decided not to run in 2016. but what if he ran in the future? aren't they taking political risks or headline risks and i remember looking at jim biden and saying how are you guys getting away with this? like aren't you ternsd? and he looked at me and laughed a little bit and said plausible didn't. brian: that was jim biden's comments to bobulinski who was sitting there. your reaction? >> it doesn't get more brazen than that i mean to actually acknowledge that what you are doing is so questionable that you actually, the phrase plausible didn't is a long standing one in politics meaning essentially you know, i can get away with denying something that's true. in other words, i can get away with saying falsehoods. it's brazen. and, again, brian. the reason, frankly, they are able to get away with it is because the media decided that they are going to let them. could you imagine if this were a republican, this were donald trump? we have seen so many stories about donald trump the last four years. many of them based in absolute no truth whatsoever. they have been investigated left, right, and center every conceivable angle of every allegation that's ever been made about donald trump has been on the front page of newspapers. has been investigated by the major networks. this is an important story. and they are just simply burying it. brian: gerri, it's astounding you point out npr stories. you will came out the minute elected resistance starts. now we are seeing the beginning of the ignorance. ignoring a story. we need -- this could change. if we had somebody following joe biden today that said do you know tony blings, did you meet with him twice what role did you have in deals in china with the energy firm linked to the chinese communist party and we look and see jim biden's taxes that show millions of dollars that came from cefc of china and evidently he went from 10% to 20%. who was he collecting that money for there were a lot of questions he would have to flat out lie to get around. so far he has not been asked. gerri. my hope is that someone ho will have the guts to do that. >> either ask him that or what flavor ice cream he likes. that's the level of questioning that he has faced so far during this campaign. brian: thanks so much. we are going to catch you on "wall street journal" at large fridays at 9:30. a great show that you host. and that is gerri baker. gerri, thank you. >> thanks, brian. brian: mike bloomberg launching an ad in texas and ohio. will thfor theformer vp. back in january, we knew that this was really, really bad. we had ample forewarning. but we did almost no testing, almost no contact tracing. completely ignored the science, completely ignored the warning signs. there were things that could have been done. a lot of people have died needlessly, and there's nothing more frustrating than feeling like you're fighting against someone who should have your back. we are not going to stamp this out unless we have a change of leadership. ff pac is responsible for the content of this ad. ♪ through the walk of life, walgreens has always been there to help make life easier. and now we're doing the same with medicare. so you can easily find the best, most affordable plan for you. visit walgreens.com/medicare to get started. walgreens. we make medicare easy. visit walgreens.com/medicare to get started. and sweetie can coloryou just be... gentle with the pens. okey. okey. i know. gentle..gentle new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database so you can start hiring right away. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home. steve: well, in a last-minute push for joe biden. former mayor mike bloomberg is shelling out 15 million bucks on tv ads in the states of texas and ohio in an effort to put pressure on president trump in states he won back in 2016. this, as the former vp campaigns in georgia while senator kamala harris is veto visit the lone star state where a new poll puts biden in a slight lead. but do these states have a real chance of turning into the biden column? let's discuss with the polster and fox news contributor kristen soltis anderson. kristin, good morning to you. >> good morning. what do you make of bloomberg putting $15 million into texas and ohio? that's a head scratcher. >> it is. well, texas is a state that i think democrats have had their eyes on for over a decade. it would be a huge prize for them. and as a result. >> have you got a lot of democrats that if they feel confident, perhaps overconfident about their chances of winning the election, they may be trying to run up the score at this point. texas is a state also where there are a number of races further down the ballot. especially for house of representatives, where democrats would love to expand nancy pelosi's majority if they can. i think that's why texas is on mike bloomberg's radar. steve: you could be right. it was a couple days ago that joe biden improvised essentially his upcoming travel itinerary. he said he was going to go to iowa and to georgia. and he was in georgia yesterday. but, to a lot of risks averse democrats they are going wait a minute is, this going to be hillary clinton 2016 all over again. joe biden needs to park himself in pennsylvania and in florida and don't go to those other places. otherwise, if he winds up losi losing. >> he should be spending every minute and every dollar in some of those states that donald trump flipped from glow red four years ago. every minute he spends somewhere else is them trying to run up the score in a way that feels strategically risky. now, georgia also falls into that same column of texas where the state democrats have had their eyes on many years. i think emotionally they would love to be able to sort of steal that prize from republicans. you also got races further down the ballot but texas and georgia are also the kinds of places that have spawned big national democratic stars. even though stacey abrams and beto o'rourke lois those states statewide. big leaders in their party. i understand emotionally why democrats want to win there. strategically any minute they are spending or any dollar they are spending on those states is not a dollar they're spending really suring up really solid wins in this race. steve: got to figure that biden team is sitting internal polling shows them they are up by a certain amount and that's why thee feel comfortable. at the same time, you know, this the x factor in this whole race is the so-called shy trump voter. polster asks you are did youing to vote for donald trump or joe biden. you would be more likely to say joe biden over donald trump because of all the baggage that comes to the person who feels the polster is asking oh how could this guy be supporting donald trump, blah blah blah, all that stuff. that really is the unknown in this at this point. how big that number is. >> to me, the big unknown is actually the sky high turnout. if i'm trying to think of what the case is for why the biden team is looking at states like georgia and texas. it is the sky high turnout. these are states where you already have 70%. 80% of the ballots cast that were cast in 2016 and we still have a week to go. with sky high turnout anything is possible. that doesn't necessarily mean that biden has got this in the bag. steve: all right. let's see what happens. we should know a week from today if we are lucky. thank you. >> thank you, steve. steve: next guest says the election will make or break the economy. he said this in wisconsin. >> it's the choice between a trump boom or biden lockdown. it's a choice between our plan to cut your taxes. his plan is to raise your taxes. steve: okay. former wisconsin congressman sean duffy here to react next. but, first, you got a minute today? 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>> first, i think if you look at donald trump, he is having a ball, isn't he, racing around the track. you know, in the beast. you saw him a couple days ago coming out of marine one. he is having fun on the campaign trail. oftentimes that's a sign of, you know, a winning campaign. but, when you look at president trump he has his morning in the america ronald reagan vision vs. the joe biden we're going to have a dark night and when you talk about actually beating covid and lowering taxes and being american energy independent, those things work with the american voters. we are going to open up your schools. we have got to navigate covid but we can beat covid. we have had an economic boom under trump under covid-19. we can do it again. if you are looking for a guy who actually had v. a rock star economy i am the one who can do it because i have a history of doing it. that's what actually works with the wisconsin voter. creating a lot of the energy four state for the president. brian: so, congressman, you understand wink you also for the president. wisconsin going through a surge of the coronavirus. the president uniquely qualified to comment on it because he knows how brutal it can be and how great it is that he bounced back especially in his age bracket. do you think including that in a speech to wisconsin whether it's next time or today targeting that will go a long way? i know what you have been through. i know what the numbers say. i know it's a tough fight. but you can -- something acknowledging what you guys are going through to keep you from packer games and the sports bars? >> well, i think the president could be a little more compassionate. i understand how tough it is and how hard it is and how fearful it can be. i think he is less compassionate on covid and more like i beat it. you can beat it. i think for older voters, i mean, it's a frightening disease because it's older voters who are dying. however, brian, we have got to recognize that you have, you know, 1% or less of the people who are dying from covid. and having more hospitalizations but maybe less deaths. it's a really good progress that we are making with covid. and i think he should talk about that. because people are thinking about covid. but, again, i think it's the right message to say we're not going to have lockdowns. we're not going to have mavericks. -- not we are going to have masks. we can have less masks and freedom. in wisconsin that works because as you know our governor shut down our state. our supreme court opened it back up. he has shut down how many people can go into bars and restaurants. he has a mask mandate. i'm not opposed to wearing masks. most people aren't. we also want freedom to be able to go into a place where no one is there and take our mask off. that matters and the president wants common sense approach is resonating with the wisconsin voter as both sides message the covid issue. steve: sure, of course, ultimately with the covid issue is that close to a quarter of a million americans, however, have died from it and that is stark and that is stunning. meanwhile, the cover of the "new york post" today this is tony bobulinski talking yesterday to tucker carlson and essentially what he did was he spilled the beans on joe biden. he said that he had met the former vice president a couple of times and, yet, while some people with less than a week before the election, so many people would like to hear his story but they don't because the channel they watch or the newspaper they pick up. watch this. >> where the media has tried to hide and i personally feel it's disgusting, is between that may 13th email and the final document that was executed called oneida holdings llc. what i would ask the american people to read and look at is how from may 13th to the oneida document that got execute dead jim biden go from 10% owner to the 20% owner and the brother of the potential president of the united states who in documents defines himself as a political adviser to his brother and so i will leave that to the american people to answer that but i don't understand how the american journalists is allowing that gap to be talked about and defined. steve: there are journalists who are able to get close enough to mr. biden to ask him questions. you know, nobody has asked. hey, what's the deal with tony bobulinski? did you meet him? and what did you mean when you said to him, mr. vice president, look out for my family? >> what kind of shake is he drinking chocolate, vanilla or strawberry. absolutely ridiculous. i wonder if the media will treat bobulinski like vindman remember in the impeachment hearings they said is he a war veteran and serves in the military they have to believe him and trust him. why doesn't bobulinski get that same respect from the left wing media he doesn't. i felt last night on tucker he came across as honest and trustworthy. he doesn't make any money off. this is he a wealthy guy already. is he a democrat. there is no you will tierie ultn but to claim his. joe biden and his family have made a lot of money from the chinese and probably some other places. and the problem with that is not that joe biden made money especially when he wasn't in the vp office. the problem is that he has lied to the american people. he said, you know, i didn't make a penny from a foreign source. bottom line is he actually did and that was exposed last night. brian: got to see where that money is some questions that need to be answered. what is the fbi doing with the laptop? they have had all this evidence for nine months and text messages we hear. have a guy willing to testament he spoke the other day. what has the fbi found? if they found nothing, shouldn't they say something i found nothing? there is no problem here? >> should they look at it, brian? there is zero commentary from the fbi like a blackout like the media and big tech. it's ridiculous. ainsley: all right. sean, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, guys. brian: sean duffy. many polls show gianno caldwell seen evidence in places you wouldn't. he joins us next. 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gianno wrote about this on fox cop. thfoxnews.com. good morning, gianno. >> thank you for having me. ainsley: tell the people who are watching why you decided to write about the hidden voter? >> you know what? this is very interesting phenomenon. in 2016 we saw voters who hadn't voted in the previous two elections or at all come out to support president donald trump. now we have seen media saturation of negative press toward the president. 2016 president trump said something something very important to black america e he said what do you have to lose. flip that statement on its head i would say what do you have to gain? president trump has made an investment and his administration has made an investment into african-american and hispanic hop labor relations and i will mention first step act. opportunity zones. funding for historically black cleengts colleges and universities. and by virtue of that president trump's numbers with blacks and hispanic men have trended up to a point that is so significant that it can literally change the course of the election. so, when i talk about the hidden trump voter. there is other demographics of hidden trump voters people clearly afraid of being considered racist or any of these negative narratives that the media has put out there. the hidden trump voter in part is the part of black and hispanic men. look at the numbers in terms of among african-americans because we are talking about younger folks. those are under 45. 35% of those who are 18 to 29 black americans like president trump's strong demeanor and for hispanics, under the age of 45, he is attracting over 35% of those individuals and in places that really really matter. we are talking about swing states. meanwhile, joe biden flip flopped more times south beach when he talks about his policies and impact for african-americans and those hispanic as well. at this point i don't believe that a lot of americans even trust joe biden enough to do what he says he is going to do. just look at fracking. ainsley: we hear a lot of people saying they are going to vote for joe biden as la referendum on trump. don't you think there is that group that would vote for trump as a referendum on the progressives they are worried that joe biden is going to be pulled in by the progressives? i a podcast out loud with ji an know caldwell pc culture. listen and like and give 5 star rating. i talked with herschel walker on this very topic. he was saying he believed people would go out and vote on behalf of president trump because they don't like the other side. and that's an important point. people are not going to capitulate to this forcing of you have to vote for this person because everyone else doesn't like him or the media doesn't like him. generations z and folks born between the year 1997 and 2012 these individuals are going to be the largest voting block to vote this year. they became voting age. you are talking about 25 million people. these individuals hate to capitulate to what the norms are. so they, in some cases will definitely buck joe biden and vote for trump. ainsley: okay, gianno, listen to your podcast and go read his article on foxnews.com. >> out loud with gianno caldwell. ainsley: former "new york times" editor bari weiss sparring with host on "the view" on the issue of court-packing. >> the fact that he has refused on the record to say whether or not he will pack the court i think is very suspicious. >> i'm glad he didn't answer because, frankly he doesn't have to. good to see you, how are you? 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[cheers] >> president trump crisscrossing the country making two stops in the sun belt today but nothing on joe biden's calendar. steve: a second night of rioting in philadelphia. >> more than 1,000 looters ransacking stores like this one bullets on the ground gives you a real good idea of what these looters were going after. >> the former vice president has said he had no knowledge whatsoever of his son's business dealings was not involved in them at all. >> that's a blatant law. when he states that that's a blatant law. >> this is an important story and the media have just simply burying it. >> the republican party has been packing the supreme court. >> packing the court is about adding more justices to the bench. >> packing the court doesn't mean appointing justices that some people don't like. >> we are expecting a strong category 2 moving into louisiana. a more vulnerable area the hurricane center is saying life threatening event. >> gorgeous have won it all in 2020. ♪ fired up the crowd ♪ let's get loud ainsley: how many years. steve: 32. ainsley: 32 years and the dodgers finally pulled this off and they won last night. congratulations to those guys. always fun to watch them jump on each other afterwards. brian: baseball pulled off 60 game season. fox able to televise it and let some in neutral site. it's a season like no other. the dodgers have been pretty consistent in the top spot for the last five, six years. so, congratulations to them. they finally got over the hump. last time they won it. kirk gibson was in the lineup. steve: look at that well, in our lineup today. we have griff jenkins in pittsburgh with a look at the battle ground state of pennsylvania because, griff, that's what it all comes down to, doesn't it? griff: it sure does, steve, ainsley and brian it. could come down to pennsylvania. you mentioned 32 years for the dodgers. 32 years ago when george h.w. won pennsylvania it was blue all the way until president trump flipped this state in 2016 red with a mere 44,000 votes. that's less than 1% it. appears again to be that tied. look at the real clear politics average. you see the candidates separated by less than four point. president trump has been hammering biden in pennsylvania in this area particularly over the oil and gas issue and forcing vice president biden walk statements back on fracking. >> this election is a choice between a trump super recovery or a biden depression. you are going to have a depression. >> we have seen charlatans con man, phoney populist who fought to play on our fierce. appear to our worst appetites and pick at the oldest scabs we have for their own political gain. griff: now so, far nearly 2 million pennsylvania voters have already voted. we can be hanging on past election day because here ballots need to be postmarked by november 3rd will be counted up to three days after. ivanka has an appearance here in pittsburgh today. first lady melania was in the philadelphia area yesterday. >> joe biden's policy and socialist agenda will only serve to destroy america and all that has been built in the past four years. griff: guys, one moment in biden's georgia swing getting a little bit of attention this morning. it was this moment. watch. >> my name is joe biden. i'm jill biden's husband and i'm kamala's running mate. [cheers] [laughter] you all think i'm kidding, don't you? griff: you won't see biden traveling today. he has no campaign stops. but he is delivering a delaware speech on healthcare while the president heads to arizona holding two rallies. brian, ainsley, steve? brian: there is no state that's going to be uncovered from states he thinks he should win to states he has to win. he is doing it all. thanks so much, griff, appreciate it. now to a fox news exclusive interview. hunter biden's former associate calling joe biden's denial of alleged involvement in his son's business dealings a blatant lie. steve: tony bobulinski told tucker carlson last night on our air that he raised concerns to joe biden's brother jim that involvement in the deals could jeopardize a future presidential run for joe biden. >> i know joe decided not to run 2016. but what if he ran in the future aren't they taking political risks or headline risk? and i remember looking at jim biden and saying how are you guys getting away with this? aren't you concerned and he looked at me and laughed a little bit and said plausible didn't. ainsley: the biden campaign says that bobulinski's claims are quote desperate at the p&a they thick farce. well, if you watch that full interview with tucker last night it's definitely eye opening. he said i have served this country. my dad served this country. my brother served this country. i didn't do that to go out there and someone say that stuff ♪ true about my family about me about what i did with this business. so i wanted to come out and tell the truth. he said that he talked to rob walker, another expartner of his. and he said, look, if you don't get adam schiff to retract his claims that this is russian miss misinformation that can a t. came from the kremlin i'm going with my information i'm going to talk about my text messages and meetings with joe biden and his son hunter. so watch this. this was adam schiff. >> this is the flashback. >> we know that this whole smear on joe biden comes from the kremlin that's been clear over a year now that they have been pushing this false narrative about the vice president and i had son. ainsley: this is what tony bobulinski said about this last night on tucker. >> i'm only sitting here because they have not -- not only have they not gone on record. they have denied it and they have tarred my family name. i have a long history of serving this country and have other congressman out talking about russian disinformation. i healed a top secret clearance from the nsa and the doe. i served this country four years in one of the most elite environments in the world natal nuclear power training command. to say have a congressman out there speaking about russian disinformation or joe biden at a public debate referencing russian disinformation when he knows he sat face to face with me to know that and associate that with my name is absolutely disgusting to me. ainsley: so he went on to say that when he told his old business partner, mr. walker, when he said if you don't get adam schiff to retract that. steve: yeah. ainsley: i'm going to come forward with all of this and walker he said you are going to bury us all. brian: what does it mean big picture hunter biden along with jim biden trading on the family name able to get influence with different countries to get some mysterious funds and raise money. one of those funds and companies is an energy company directly learninged the biggest one directly linked to the chinese communist party part of the deal when they are doing the chinese belton road program and building roads and bridges and governments czech republic and pakistan going to build this for you and in turn going to pay us or get a piece of your country. this is one of those companies that was actually doing that work. and after a while, bobulinski is saying whoa, whoa, this is getting out of control. i cannot believe you are meeting with kazakhstan, poland, morocco, ukraine, romania? by the way, where is the money? until he get senator johnson's report and he realizes that hunter biden is using the money raised that he said never came into the accounts as his own personal piggy bank that's when he came forward. adam schiff made it final. as soon as they started questioning his integrity and started getting death threats then he took action. having said all of that last night with tucker. having had the press conference before the debate. he sat down with tucker, told the whole story, backed it up with documents. gerry baker of the "wall street journal" just the day before wrote a story how the media is in cahoots protecting joe biden. and he doesn't know why and he has never seen anything like it before. listen. >> protective wall around joe biden's candidacy. they believe that electing joe biden is so important to the country and they've believe beating donald trump what they have been trying to do the last four years. whatever comes up, however damaging it could be to joe biden they will just going to ignore it and continue to down play it and continue emphasize anything they can that's negative about donald trump. it's -- the media has always been biased we know that and seen that over 20, 30 years. i have never seen anything like this. brian: it's not like the fbi doesn't know it, steve. the fbi has the laptop. they have everything from that computer store since december of 2019. they have not acted. tell me if that doesn't bother you or you think it's important before you vote to find out family joe biden with him directly profiting, perhaps. at least that's what he explained is in cahoots with six or seven different governments? steve: fbi never confirms whether or not they are doing an investigation. so that does not surprise me at all. brian: they do have the laptop and they did leave a receipt with the computer owner and no one disputes it. steve: that's true. we don't know if there is an investigation. we don't know what they are looking into. we don't know who they are talking. to say the meetings with between joe biden and mr. bobulinski happened after he was vice president of the united states. so the question isy any laws broken, ultimately that would be great for people to know before the election. brian: something to point out 2015 is when he was first approached with a biden family business. steve: what i said was it was the first time -- joe biden spoke to tony bobulinski in 2017 after he had left the white house. the question is what if anything law wise was broken? and we would like to know that -- this could be an october surprise but to gerry baker's point so much of the media not covering it. ainsley: that's what is so frustrating. brian: amazing. ainsley: you see everything that the president went through with the russia scaxdz scandal. brian: ukrainian call. ainsley: it's such a double standard. and that's why i understand a lot of people don't likes the president's tweets but i understand why he has to do that because he doesn't feel like he is getting fair coverage on, you know, in mainstream media. brian: never seen anything like this before ever, ever. steve: speaking of coverage on other media. remember a couple months ago columnist bari weiss who respond resigned on her facebook page from her job at the "new york times." summarizing this does a good job politico article on that starts like this "new york times" opinion staff writer and editor bari weiss announced her resignation on tuesday decrying the paper's workplace culture towards staffers who hold anything other than left of center ideology act of bravery different point of view. ainsley: goes into last talking point. steve: exactly. that's my point. she was called to fill in on "the view" and she clashed with some of the other hosts over joe biden and the fact that he has refused to reveal whether or not if elected president he would pack the court. she would like to know before people vote. apparently other people on "the view" don't share her view. watch. >> the republican party has been packing the supreme court for decades. they have been packing the judiciary for decades. i think what we're going to see is, perhaps, the democrats unpacking the supreme court so that there is more of a balance. >> packing the court is about adding more justices to the bench. packing the court doesn't mean appointing justices that some people don't like. i think one thing that a lot of centrists and moderates are looking for right now is whether joe biden will have the strength to stand up to the left wing flank of his party. the fact that he has refused on the record to say whether or not he will pack the court i think is very suspicious to some people. >> i'm glad he didn't answer because frankly he doesn't have to. >> you don't think the american people deserve an answer about that. >> i think he will give an answer when he is ready to give her. ainsley: good for her, the american people are entitled to have an answer on the issues when you are trying to decide how are going to vote for for president of the united states it. is up for the voter. if you are not satisfied with the answer of one and you are the other, then usually you vote for that one. when the candidate is not giving an answer that's a problem. ainsley: proud of her saying defense of packing the court is adding more justices. the problem with this is if the democrats add more justices then when a republican is president again, then they will add more. then how many justifiables will be on the supreme court. steve: ultimately when they say republicans have been packing the courts for years. what they're talking about is filling judicial vacancies. ainsley: ruth bader ginsburg said you are a president for four years. you are entitled to you do that. brian: joe biden is talking about rotating supreme court justices to other courts. that's unbelievable. they are also talking about restructuring the out of whack district courts which is unbelievable. jonathan turley is going to be on later to expand on this. president trump says this election is a choice between a trump boom or a biden lockdown for the economy. is he right? 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[applause] >> this election is a choice between a trump super recovery or a biden depression. but it's a choice between a trump boom or a biden lockdown. ainsley: joe biden promising not to shut down the economy trump makes the frurej -- joining success steve cortes. >> good morning, ainsley. ainsley: everyone says don't look at these national polls. look at the polls state by state. what do you think is going to happen in these battle ground states? >> i think that's correct. if we look at the battle ground states. i think all of them are within reach, quite frankly from both sides and who is going to get their people to the polls in the closing days will determine who wins. i believe we are going to close. and the main reason actually give to you with reasons one because of you who aggressively we are campaigning and how aggressively we are trying to earn the votes of americans. secondly and more importantly, it is the economy. the economy roars back to life in this country right now. all of the economic metrics that come out in recent days are just stellar. just yesterday we got durable goods which hit a new high for the trump presidency. both the industrial. the consumer side of the economy are roaring back to life. there is a great american economic renaissance flourishing across our land. the way to continue and accelerate is to rehire donald trump as our national ceo. alternatively, unfortunately, joe biden threatens to squash all of this momentum with the largest tax cut in american history as well as the threat of lockdowns. we are not going back there. he is the surrender candidate. surrender to china and the china verizon. we are not going back to lockdown would he say this that pledge from donald trump whereas we have on tape joe biden saying is he willing to go back there. ainsley: they seem to be neck in neck in most of these battle ground states. new router out that says young hispanic voters could tip the race in these key battle ground states. when you look at the numbers, there are 32 million latinos, 13% of all eligible voters about 40% of the eligible latino voters are between the ages of 18 and 345. the younger generation. >> we are doing really well among latinos in part of because of the economic record of the president and we have reached out to them the campaign has in intentional and respectful way if you contrast that with joe biden his idea of hispanic outreach is going to florida and playing desbusines song on his e cringe worthy moment. most hispanics by definition are working class people. if you notice the lockdowns, the main proponents. the loudest voices looking for lockdowns or restrictions they are generally i shouldn't say generally they are almost always part of the credential class of people. people who are work effectively remotely. frankly don't mind sitting upstale homes working on laptop or consultant while wearing lululemon there is a whole different group of america who can't work remotely coming and truck drivers, welders and waitresses. many of them black and brown americans. those people cannot have another lockdown. and we are the america first movement is the movement for those people. those deplorables. those working class americans. they are the beating heart of this country. of our movement. and donald trump is their voice and their representative in government. ainsley: all right. steve, good to see you. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. ainsley: you are welcome. coming up, joe biden suggests rotating supreme court justices now. constitutional expert jonathan turley calls the idea a partisan scheme. the details next. if your dry eye symptoms keep coming back, inflammation in your eye might be to blame. looks like a great day for achy, burning eyes over-the-counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes and may provide temporary relief. ha! these drops probably won't touch me. xiidra works differently, targeting inflammation that can cause dry eye disease. 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you feel safe? >> at times anxiously. this morning we do. last night we were around when there was a number of shots that were fired between these groups of looters and things got a little precarious at that point. police were at times nowhere to be found. it was a game of whack-a-mole police police and the looters looters clearly outnumbered the political science in this situation. this was one of the wall matters that they were looting up until about 5:00 a.m. this morning. the first people who showed up at the walmart got the very best stuff. that was the tvs that they were age too clear out. some people wheeling out brand new washing machines. shoes, especially sneakers were very popular. that's what one of the shootings was over. there were about 11 people shot just last night and back here at the walmart can you see a number of rifle rounds still sitting here at the entrance to this walmart a number of other stores that were hit all up and down this part of town. we are about 15 miles or so from where walter wallace was shot. so, one has a hard time understanding what this has to do with his death other than the simple fact it is an excuse to loot and to get free stuff. which is what a lot of people were doing. they were even looting fake christmas trees for an early christmas decoration project. the white house said on, this the riots in philadelphia are the most recent consequences of the liberal democrats war against the police. the biden harris campaign talking about walter wallace's shooting thing we cannot accept in this country a mental health crisis ends in death. the police have said that they're going to continue and try to investigate the shooting of walter wallace meantime try to get ahold of their city. the problem is that despite the fact that the national guard is being called up. this is a big city. there are a lot of areas like this couple of miles and somewhat suburban philadelphia that have all of these stores. and as soon as police concentrate in one area of this city to try and make sure things don't get out of hands. >> that leaves entire areas like this completely unguarded and the looters just come over and take over, ainsley. >> i know. hopefully the national guard will help with that and provide more law enforcement. thanks so much. brian: yeah, two days later everything is gob. thanks, leland. new backlash this morning after those explosive claims from hunter biden's exbusiness associate about joe biden's alleged involvement in his son's business deals. listen. >> the former vice president has said he had no knowledge whatsoever of his son's business deals a and not involved in them at all this sounds like direct involvement in them. >> that's a blatant lie. when he states that, that's a blatant lie. in that debate he made a specific statement around questions around this from the president and i will be honest with you i almost stood up and screamed liar and walked out. steve: all right. here with reaction as you can see far right on our screen right there. we have got fox news contributor and george washington university professor jonathan turley. professor, good morning. >> >> good morning. you know in a normal election year this would be called an october surprise. that would mean everybody would be covering it. is it seems only a few news outlets actually covering. this and have you got to wonder why. >> that's right. a controversy is only a scandal if it's covered. if it's danging. if there is no coverage, no scandal. sort of interesting about lesley stahl's interview on "60 minutes" when she laughed and said he is not involved in a scandal she is right because there is no coverage. you can't have a scandal without coverage. because there is no scandal without coverage. what is fascinating about this. major story. this emails appear to be authentic influence peddling by son blackout. and from an academic side. it reminds me that recently a stanford journalism professor called on the media to put aside this concept of objectivity. objectivity has no place in it stands in the way of activism. objectivity for the purposes of this election. ainsley: this is what is interesting too in the interview last night tony said that he asked jim biden, joe biden's brother if he was worried about getting caught. listen to this. >> i'm thinking about the biden family like how are they doing this? i know joe decided not to run in 2016. but what if he ran in the future? aren't they taking political riskes or headline risks and i remember looking at jim biden and saying how are you guys getting away with this like aren't you concerned? and he looked at meal and he laughed a little bit and said plausible didn't. ainsley: jonathan, what's your reaction to that? and if all of this is true. is there something illegal here or is it just unethical. put your finger on the right point here. we still don't have any evidence that this influence peddling and this is what this is actually influenced vice president biden. also no evidence that fascinating about this is influence peddling is a protected activity in washington. congress has written the laws to allow this type of influence peddling by giving money to spouses and children you avoid bribery and corruption statutes. this is a form of legal corruption. which is why many of us objected when joe biden said my son did nothing wrong. whether hunter biden did anything criminal is one question. there is no question that what he did was wrong. this was raw influence peddling on a grand global scale. brian: are you comfortable with the next president of the united states having a family business associated with a chinese energy company who is associated with the chinese communist party? not an independent entity linked to the chinese communist party? this is unbelievable that this is going on. that people aren't paying attention and this should at very least be a factor and he should be forced to answer. but they don't ask him is that the laptop of your son. are those emails your son's? is that his signature? what does -- do you know bobulinski? did you meet with him twice? we can't get a single question. but i do want to if i can, can we jog over to the other big story we talked about on the radio yesterday? and that is the change in our court system should the senate go to the democrats and should joe biden win the presidency. they are talking about rotating supreme court justices. listen. >> there is some literature among constitutional scholars about the possibility of going from one court to another court. not just always staying the whole time on the supreme court. there are just a group of serious constitutional scholars have a number of ideas how we should proceed from this pointed on from the time i'm sworn in to be able to make such a rnlsz. brian: rotate like a volleyball game. no longer my turn on the supreme court. next up? >> no. this is not a profile of courage. it's a profile of convenience that what vice president biden is doing here is wrong. he called some of these ideas bone headed when he was a senator and he is going to create a commission to make them bona fide proposals. why? because some of these proposals have these wacky ideas. and you are now seeing in a senate floor senators like senator blumenthal seemingly referring to these proposals and telling his colleagues if they vote for now justice barrett there will be, quote, consequences. so he is basically saying look, vote no or the court gets it. that is something we never thought we would see in the senate. i never thought i would hear these words from presidential candidate. 60%. roughly 60% of the american people are against packing the court. this is appealing to that angry 30% that you are offering the institution to to satiate their anger. steve: you pack the court and 60% angry. jonathan turley, thank you for joining us live. >> thank you. steve: meanwhile in political news first 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[cheers and applause] steve: there you have got the first lady melania trump returning to the campaign trail yesterday warning pennsylvania voters against what she calls joe biden's socialist agenda. so how effective is her message with less than a week to go? joining us right now we have a panel of great speakers. we have fox news contributor tammy bruce along with women for trump co-chair madison and fox news contributor lisa booth. good morning to all of you. >> good morning. >> hi, steve. steve: good to have you. hey, madison, let's start with you. so how effective is having the first lady out with just one week left before the election? because so many people have already decided. >> i think it's critical to have the first lady of the united states out there. we have to remember that she is an immigrant. she is someone who is the example of living the american dream. she came here. she had a very successful deer. and ultimately became first lady of the united states. and, of course, we can't forget the fact that president trump had supported and empowered women for many, many years. i'm an example of that. justice amy coney barrett is an example of that and ambassador nikki haley is an example of that secretary devores. secretary chal. the list goes on. a president who empowers women and it's important that we have people out there speaking about his accomplishments. speaking about the choice we face next week because there are women who are on the face that may sway their vote between now and next tuesday or if they vote early before that. steve: that's right. tammy, there is a brand new abc news poll that has come out that shows that joe biden, according to this and they insist it's not a misprint in wisconsin is up 17 points and it's attributed to the covid response and with women it says that joe biden is ahead by 30. >> yeah. look. i think we learned in 2016 and even through this process that polls are especially weak these days because of the nature of people feeling comfortable expressing their political opinion which has become extremely difficult and in many places dangerous. the poll that matters is the one on november 3rd. i think what we have got here and american women understand this especially is that none of us are really free and minorities understand this as well unless we are financially stable. that the work the president has done not just in supporting individual women but his accomplishments and agenda make our lives safer. we are able to see our future for our children. we are able to live lives where we can have our children go to the schools that we want them to go to, violence, drug abuse, gang activity. what we are seeing in philadelphia. >> anna: example and other democrat run cities, every american mother worries about where her children are at night because of the nature of this kind of political activity and, donald trump is the only one who is able to put a stop to it and who understands women's lives. so it's the financial a aspect that we are able to make decisions that best suit us because this country is strong only donald trump will bring that i think those numbers in wisconsin the president is fighting hard for all people in wisconsin. certainly women as well first lady is going to have a big impact not only now but in the next four years in the white house as well. >> lisa, somebody fighting hard for joe biden is barack obama. he was out on the stump in orlando yesterday and was fiery at the president. watch. this you have a president right now he wants full credit for an economy that he inherited. he wants zero blame for the pandemic he ignored. america created 1.5 million more jobed ijobs in the last three yf the obama biden administration than in the first three years of the trump-pence administration. and that was before trump could blame the pandemic. but just like everything else he inherited. he screwed it up. steve: lisa, how effective was the former president yesterday. >> well, look, at what joe biden's to do to the economy. he wants to shut everything down due to covid again. he said that on the debate stage last go around. when you look at what biden's former chief of staff said, he said that they got lucky on h1n1 that it could have been mass casualties in american history and they simply got lucky. there is absolutely no evidence that joe biden would do a better job leading on the pandemic. and i think president trump has done a good job of demonstrating where he has taken leadership and where joe biden would not have. particularly even looking at the travel ban that president trump implemented. regarding melania trump as well. one area she humanizes and explains president trump in a way nobody else can what she does and what she said the other day and what she said before is look, you might not always like what my husband says, but he gets the job done and he is honest. is he effective. that is the strongest place and that's the strongest message where republicans can be to rebutt joe biden and the democrats' cirk line of attack. steve: thank you all for joining us lisa and tammy and madison. have a good day and thank you very much. six days until election. >> thank you. steve: all right. 1 minutes before the top of the hour it. is once again a very busy weather day and for that we turn to janice dean who is in the weather bunker hi steve, yes. latest advisory from the national hurricane center. the storm has strengthened again 90 mile-per-hour sustained winds. core of the strongest winds and storm surge and heavy rain going to come right on top of new orleans. a very vulnerable area. hopefully they are ready for a strengthening category 2 storm that is going to move in this afternoon. so 90 miles per hour. that puts us almost at a category 2 storm. we are expecting winds of 100 miles per hour once it makes impact later on this afternoon and this evening. there is the latest track. we got it early. national hurricane center is trying to get the information out because the storm surge totals have gone up considerably. now that we are dealing with a strong category 2 storm with upwards of 9-foot storm surge. we could see upwards of 8 to 10 inches of heavy rainfall. hurricane warnings now in effect for the eastern part of louisiana in towards mississippi as well. so this is an unfolding situation. a stronger storm than we anticipated. people need to pay very close attention to their local officials. this is a life threatening storm now moving into louisiana later on this afternoon. steve, back to you. steve: all right. january anything, thank you very much for keeping us updated. meanwhile, coming up. a jewelry store says they were given a court summons for violating covid-19 restrictions even though the store was closed. one of the owners joins us live coming up next. among my patients, i often see them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity 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[cheers and applause] ♪ brian: yeah, here we go. the dodgers, congratulations to them. the last time they won the series, kurt gibson was traded to the oakland at will thetics, and now it's 32 years lawsuiter, and they're champions. -- lauter, and they're champions. with 70 million people already are voting, you can't even say election day anymore, can you? it's like election end. steve: i think we depicted it a couple months ago as it was going to be election season, leading up to the world series which we hope, ainsley, will cull my mate a week from yesterday. ainsley: i don't remember this many polls being open for weeks before the election. is that because of covid or am i forgetful? steve: well, there have been so many people horrified by the fact that maybe i'm not going to be able to get my ballot counted -- ames awps right. and you have to do it safely. steve: people want to do it in person or mail it in. ainsley: griff jenkins is hive hive -- is live in pittsburgh. six days, griff. >> reporter: yeah. it might even go past election day here in pennsylvania. they can count ballots three days after the election, now pennsylvania may very well decide who is the next president of the united states. in 2016 it was razor thin. trump flipped it red by less than 1%, 44,000 votes. now it looks to be just as tight and heading in a very, very close race. let me show you the real clear politics average. biden leading trump by less than 4 points. now, one question is whether it's going to be the an effective attack that president trump has issued on biden for his mistake on the oil and gas industry in that last debate. meanwhile, in michigan and georgia both candidates just lighting into each other. watch. >> this election is a choice between a trump super recovery or a biden depression. you're going to have a depression. >> we've seen a charlatan the, a con man, the phony populist who fought to play on ore our fears and pick at the oldest scabs we have for their own political gain. >> reporter: now here in the keystone state nearly 2 million voters have already voted. hopefully it won't go past election day. now, as far as aa appearances, ivanka will appear in diss burg where i am today, and yesterday first lady melania was in the philadelphia area hammering away at joe biden saying he has a socialist agenda that will destroy america. one moment getting some attention from biden's georgia swing yesterday was this when he introduced himself. watch. >> my name's joe biden. i'm jill biden's husband, and i am kamala's running mate. [cheers and applause] [laughter] y'all think i'm kidding, don't ya? >> reporter: check out the map, biden will be at home in delaware while the president heads to arizona for two rallies. kamala harris will have two appearances in the grand canyon with state as well, and vice president pence will make stops in michigan, in wisconsin, two very key battleground states as well. brian, ainsley, steve? brian: thanks so much. it's interesting, the vice president go out and have one appearance, ad hoc appearance on monday and a couple yesterday, but the president of the united states, he's going to be doing about three today, and there's going to be nothing right now on the schedule outside of a speech in delaware by the vice president. a lot of people are getting concerned that he's sitting on his lead. right now we see that the trump campaign is very optimistic about florida and much more optimistic about pennsylvania. trailing by 6, and they are kind of worried about texas, so the one official told me they believe they're up by 4 or 5 in texas. as we look at six days until election day, this is how frustrated the team is that not only the media's not for them, they're against them. a study was found of network news coverage, 92% of all the stories about donald trump are negative now. unbelievable. meanwhile, his scent weapon was finally -- secret weapon was finally out and about, melania trump. she is extremely popular. now that she's feeling better, she was going to go out monday, once. then on tuesday she was. listen to her. >> joe biden's policy and socialist agenda will only serve to destroy america and all that has been built in the past four years. joe biden i attacks president trump's decisions to put american people first and closing travel from china. now he suggests that he could have done a better job. the american people can look at joe biden's 36 years in congress and 8 years in the vice presidency and determine whether they think he will finally be able to get something done. for the american people. [applause] brian: so this you go. she is out and about. if you want to know who's voting the most, it is right now texas, followed by florida, followed by north carolina, the most early voting -- ainsley: california too. steve: the way they've broken it down for the most part, they say of the early voting, the democrats are more likely to mail in their votes whereas republicans are more likely to do in-person voting. of course, as we have said, the republicans are counting on majority of the rerepublicans who are going to vote for trump to show up in person on tuesday. but according to the trump team the, they say that in florida, iowa, north carolina, pennsylvania and arizona the democrats are short of the 70%, which is their target of democrats, who show up to vote. so while the number is sky high, the number of people whosoever have early voted, nonetheless, they are short of that. and the thing that the trump voter, the trump team is counting on is the fact that there are a lot of people who did not vote for donald trump in 2016 and didn't vote for anybody. but over the last four years, the trump team has gotten them to register and has motivated them, and they are, ainsley, one of the reasons behind these gigantic, sky-high numbers of people who are early voting. the people who were not on the radar before now could be pulling the lever for the guy in the blue tie. ainsley: so i have a friend that works on madison avenue, and she was saying she's concerned about if trump wins, what will this mean for our city, will there be looting and rioting like in other cities. and we did see that in new york a few months ago -- brian: i think the biggest story, you have a friend working on madison avenue. i didn't know anyone was working -- ainsley: yeah, she's working at a clothing store. rodeo drive has decided to close on election day because our country is so divided. and then we play the sound bite of melania, obama was down in florida saying we can't afford four more years of this, and ilhan omar saying progressives will try to influence joe biden if he is elected. we already knew it though. last night on tucker's show, tony bobulinski was on. he served our country as a u.s. navy lieutenant, his dad did too, his brother did too, served our country at least as soldiers, and he said i care so much about my reputation, and with this story, the alleged e-mail story came out, he said adam schiff was saying, look, this is russian misinformation, this is not true. he said he heard that, and it really made him upset because he said he knows the truth, that joe biden and hunter biden, they did use their influence to make money from other countries, he believes. and he said that he has e-mails that were all sent to him from may 13th, 2017, that outlined a plan to have 10% of their company, oneida holdings, held by h for the big guy, hunter and joe biden. well, steve doocy's son peter was out on the campaign trail recently, and heed asked joe biden do you know anything about hunter biden's buzz dealings? and he said, no, i don't. listen to what tony said. >> sitting with jim biden and hunter biden, and joe came through the lobby with his security. hunter introduced me as this is tony, dad, the individual i told you about that's helping us with the business that we're working on and the chinese. >> the former vice president has said he had no knowledge whatsoever of his son's business dealings and was not involved in them. >> that's a blatant lie. when he states that the, that is a blatant lie. in that debate he made a specific statement around questions around this from the president, and i'll be honest with you, i almost stood up and screamed liar and walked out because i was shocked that after four days or five days of being prepped for this, that the biden family is taking that position. brian: yeah. he also referred to in the e-mails as the big guy and the chairman. that's what hunter refers to him as. and they told him don't ever put joe's name in any texts. joe's information comes face to face. they met face to face two times. they talked about the international business dealings he thinks the american people should know. they should know that the biden family was dealing with an energy company linked to the chinese communist party, and they were making millions of dollars from it. the first meeting they had, hunter was yelling at an executive from cesc saying where's my money, you owe me $20 million, and he thought, what is going on here? jonathan turley watched the interview i too. from a legal perspective, this is problematic. ethically as well. listen. >> controversy the's only a scandal if it's covered, if it's damage. if there's no coverage, no scandal. any way you look at this, it is a major story. this is, these are e-mails that appear to be authentic that are detailing the influence-peddling by the vice president's son and his brother. this is a form of legal corruption. if any of us objected when joe biden said my son did nothing wrong, whether hunter biden did anything criminal is one question. there's no question that what he did was wrong. this was raw influence peddling on a grand global scale. brian: tony bobulinski, who i know who people who know him personally said he's as. honorable as the day is long. they were dealing with a chinese-owned enterprise, it had strong financial and political support from the chinese. communist party. if you know all this and you look at tony and you believe him and you still want to vote for joe biden, go ahead. but you should noting tolerate not knowing this. to have people shield you from information that might make you a more knowledgeable voter should not be tolerable to the american people. steve: the cover of "the new york post" has this cover this morning, look out for my family, because that apparently is what joe biden said to tony bobulinski after their meeting in 2017. biden had already left the vice presidency, but what he was trying to make sure, that tony understood was, tony, look out for hunter and jim and my family as well. all right, meanwhile, let's talk about this, one of the things that joe biden has been reluctant to talk about because his details are all over the place. it's would he pack the court. first he said i'm not going to tell you until after the election, and then he's talking about maybe doing something where you bring supreme court justices down to the minor leagues and then you bring people up for a little while like a baseball team, essentially. he's been all over the place. yesterday on "the view," bari weiss, who was an opinion editor and left because there is such an inuntil answer of any other -- intolerance of i any other point of view, she thinks that the american people is owed an explanation from joe biden and got into it with the other hosts. listen to this. >> the republican party has been packing the supreme court for decades. they've been packing the judiciary for decades. i think what we're going to see is perhaps the democrats unpacking the supreme court so that there is more of a balance. >> packing the court is about adding more justices to the bench. it doesn't mean appointing justices that some people don't like. i think one thing that a lot of centrists and moderates are looking for right now is whether joe biden will have the strength to stand up to the left-wing flank of his party. the fact that he has refused on the record or to say whether or not he will pack the court, i think, is very suspicious to some people. >> frankly, he doesn't have to answer. >> you don't think the american people don't deserve an answer about that this. >> i think they will get an answer when he's ready to give one. steve: and earlier in that conversation where the host talked about how the republicans had been packing the courts for a very long time, the republicans have not been expanding the number of justices on the supreme court beyond nine. i don't remember that happening. what she's talking about is the fact that there have been a number of i vacancies at all sorts of levels in the federal government, and they were simply filling vacancies. brian: right. kagan and sotomayor, by the way, were not republican selections. ainsley: ruth bader ginsburg said you're president for four years, if there's a vacancy, legally the president is allow id to pick someone. that's not called packing the court. there are nine right now. if the democrats come in and pack the court with another five or however many they want, then when a republican president comes in, they can't complain when they pack the court with another additional five. brian: just so you know, you're electing a president that is going to change a branch of government. just be aware of that. ainsley: exactly. steve: 8:15 now here in new york city, and jillian joins us. you're starting with weather. >> reporter: that's right. hurricane zeta is expected to make landfall as a category two storm in new orleans. widespread damage is expected. mandatory evacuations are underway. the mississippi coast is bracing for a dangerous storm surge up to 9 feetment the storm already or leaving a path of destruction in parts of mexico. janice dean is tracking that. covid-19 cases are hitting a record high in the u.s. the en-day average topping 70,000 nation wide. there are nearly 8.8 million total cases and more than 226,000 deaths in the u.s. hospitals in 46 states are reporting increases in coronavirus patients compared to two weeks ago. this as the trump administration announces a deal with eli lilly to buy 300,000 doses of its antibody treatment if it gets approved by the fda. this just in, a federal judge issuing new orders to the u.s. postal service to insure ballots are delivered as quickly as possible. the judge ordering the usps to perform late and extra trips to the, quote, maximum extent necessary to increase on-time delivery. it's a reversal of rules puppet in place by the postmaster general earlier this summer. and today the tunnel to towers foundation is getting a big check. the company is donating $100,000 to the foundation's covid-19 fund. proper number 12 irish whiskey has given more than $1 million to support families of first responders. frank siller set up the foundation to honor his brother, firefighter stephen siller, who rushed to the world trade center on sleth and died -- september 11th and died while trying to save the lives of others. ainsley: that's so nice of them. $100,000, that's going to go a long way. thanks, jillian. coming up, a second night of looting and unrest in philadelphia after police shot and killed a man with the knife. we are live with a look at the damage there, coming up next. history also destroyed the lives of thousands of jewish survivors still suffering today. god calls on people who believe in him to act on his word. 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>> well, first of all, the big, big news comes out exactly 24 hours from now when we get the west economic report probably in a hundred years in this country, and that's gdp in the third quarter which this september was up somewhere between 33 and 35%. it's ap amazing report. every indication right now is so to about the economy. positive about the economy. look at manufacturing, construction, the housing market, it's hotter than it's been in probably 50 years. small business confidence is up. we're riding on the back of secretariat, and the question is do you want to change horses, in my opinion. look, i do think that the biden agenda is very scary for not so much investors, but for workers. you get rid of the oil and gas industry the, which is something that biden admitted he wantedded to do. if you raise those taxes by $4 trillion over a decade, i just don't see how that creating jobs. steve: robert, over to you. >> well, steve didn't answer the question. the recession happened during the trump administration. the last recession happened during the bush administration. and if you actually look at the history, almost all the recessions take place when there is a republican president. the stock market's actually done better under both president clinton and president obama than it does under trump. with respect to the article you're talking about, ben white's political article, financial services are all in for biden for the most part because he has a plan. president trump doesn't have plan. the build back better plan actually does better with jobs than the trump plan. the trump plan is payroll tax cuts. it's not a plan, it's a blunt force instrument that doesn't help those unemployed. and i would say to steve on the gdp number, i'm hoping for a great number, but, steve, you know just to get call this year we need gdp to be 55% just to be equal this year. and 50% of the people that lost jobs still are out of work. so this idea that all of a sudden it's the greatest and sec retear yacht, that's all b.s., steve. elle say that. >> tell robert, let me respond to that. first of all, you know, the gdp would have been up by about 40-50% if it weren't for the blue states that are all shut down. by the way, steve, i'm in chicago right now. the mayor of chicago has just shut down the restaurants again. i mean, just at the very time the city is starting to get back on its feet. it's like a ghost town. and you see that in new york, you see it in chicago, you see what's happening, you just reported what is happening in philadelphia. i mean, robert, how can you justify these actions by these democratic governors and mayors that are shutting down their economies at a time we've got to get our economy running again? >> once again, not accurate. over 35 states, red and blue, are seeing covid cases spiking. it's amazing the white house is now a hot spot. so let's not talk about who is handling the pandemic well. it's overwhelming. people want to switch from trump to biden because he has not handled the pandemic well. this idea also that blue states -- the red states run literally 7 of the top 10 deficits that take federal money are run by red states. they take federal money. you know your facts are opposite on that, right? we should go back to when you were conservative and worried about deficits because you would not be able to say that about the -- steve: steve, 15-second rebuttal. >> massachusetts, new york, illinois and new jersey have the highest death rates. what do they all have in common? they have democratic governors. nine of the ten astronauts, robert, today with the highest unemployment rates are run by democrats. is that what you want for the country? steve: robert, 15 second, final word. >> on tuesday we're winning those states, that's why you're giving them to us already. steve: a week from today we'll know, guys. >> look forward to it. steve: robert, steve, thank you very much. meanwhile, a group of energy workers are meeting with democrats to help save their jobs. >> if democrats destroy the oil and gas industry -- >> i won't have a way -- >> to feed my family, pay my bills. >> they are concerned and so is texas congressman joe crenshaw. says -- dan crenshaw. joe biden needs to listen to them closely. he's next. ♪ we live in uncertain times. however, there is one thing you can be certain of. the men and woman of the united states postal service. we are here to deliver your cards, packages and prescriptions. and also deliver the peace of mind knowing that what's important to you-like your ballot-is on its way. every day, all across america, we deliver for you. and we always will. ♪ ♪ >> we know that this whole smear on joe biden comes from the kremlin. that's been clear for well over a year now, that they've been pushing this false narrative about the vice president and his son. >> top secret clearance from the nsa and the doe. i served this country for four years in one of the most elite environments of the world, and to have a congressman out there speaking about russian disinformation or joe biden had a public debate referencing russian disinformation when he knows he sat face to face with me, to say that and associate that with my name is absolutely disgusting to me. brian: you could imagine how you feel if you serve in the military and you're an outstanding american, is self-made success story and then being called out like that, smeared like that. texas gop congressman dan crenshaw talked about, is here to talk about everything. first off, tony bobulinski, a guy who serves in the military, now labeled by congressman schiff as a russian agent. what's your reaction to that? >> well, thanks for having me on. this is pretty typical of adam schiff. he uses his position to spread if lies. he's been doing it for a long time, we're all used to it. and if i apologize to tony bob lin secure for -- bobulinski for having to deal with it now. anytime there's a narrative of facts they don't like, they claim it's been debunked, it's russian disinformation. no questions to answer. here's the bottom line, and we need to explain what's going on here. there's a possibility that joe biden is actually compromised by the chinese communist party. okay, here's why. we know for a fact, this is undisputed, that hunter biden has gone around the world getting sweetheart deals because of his family's name. the question is has joe biden also benefited from that. from the testimony that he's presented, from the e-mails he's presented from this laptop, it shows joe biden possibly did get a 10% stake in this deal. tony bobulinski says there's no doubt in his mind that the big guy is hum. is he the big guy? are the e-mails real? did he meet with tony bobulinski? these are very simple questions. and when they're asked, they say, oh, those questions have been answered. no, they haven't. we're about to potentially elect a president compromised by the chinese communist party because this energy company has direct ties to them. steve: yeah, indeed. let's see if anybody's able to get close enough to joe biden to ask him those questions between now and tuesday. so far not so good. dan, we've got a sound bite from the thursday debate with joe biden, and when joe biden said this, people all over the oil belt said what did he just say? listen to the former vice president at the debate versus donald trump. >> i would transition from the oil industry, yes. >> oh, that's a big statement. >> it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time. over time. and i've stopped giving to the oil -- i'd stop giving them federal subsidies. >> will you remember that, texas? >> well, is and now you put together an ad with oil workers. watch this, folks. >> if democrats destroy the oil and gas industry -- >> i won't have a way -- >> to feed my family, paw my bills -- >> or make a living. >> please, don't take my job away. steve: it's pretty simple, don't take my job away. don't transition me to unemployment. >> and that's exactly what a vote for democrats is. that's what this ad is about. we have over 250,000 workers here in houston that are begging democrats, stop threatening their jobs. there's millions throughout texas and millions more throughout the country, all right? what does this mean? what is an attack on our energy sector for america? it's not just the loss of millions of jobs, it's higher electricity prices, it's rolling blackouts. look to california, this is what happens. and it's higher global emissions because it turns out energy demand throughout the world will increase by 25-30% over the next couple of decades, so who's going to provide that energy? russia, saudi arabia, iran. russian natural gas is 47% higher emissions than u.s. natural algas. so democrats want to prevent us from exporting cleaner natural gas to the world which, by the way, is responsible to reducing emissions in the u.s. down to 1990 levels. you're actually going to get higher global emissions. this is how crazy their plan is, destroy american jobs, destroy the american energy sector, destroy our american energy independence, and it's it's bad for the environment. you can't vote for these people. i mean, or their plans are so awful and so bad for texas and for our economy and for the world. ainsley: yeah. you heard him say i'm going to get rid of this industry. people are going to be out of work. how are they going to pay their bills? what would you do without your job? i'd have to move back home with my parents. it doesn't even make sense why a candidate would say that because all these people are probably not going to vote for him as a result. nancy pelosi, first of all, not passing relief money for people out of work, and also she wants to take court packing a step further. will be to this. >> should we expand the court? let's take a look and see. but not -- and that would make to the nine district courts, maybe we need more district courts as well. ainsley: dan, what's your response to that? >> you know, it's mind-blowing. i hope the american people are paying attention. let's take a step back here. what are they really saying? they're saying if we get the senate, the presidency and the house, it's not enough power for us. we need more power. we need more court packing. that's an insane thing to say. so all those radical policies, destroying our energy sector, raising your taxes, opening up our borders, opening up to china more, allowing them to walk all over us, all of those radical policies, they have to implement them somehow. how do they implement them? well, they need more power. they need to pack the courts. they need to fundamentally change the institutions of our true mic. -- republic. and these people have a fundamentally different view of why a court even exists. see, conservatives understand that a court exists to interpret the law as it is written. amy coney barrett had to remind all of us of that. that's a very important and quite simple role of the judiciary. democrats don't believe that. they believe that the judiciary is there to act as an additional legislature. to implement their outcomes that they like the most. that's what they're doing. that's why they want to pack the courts. it's a very scary thing. they want to completely remodel our institutions just to implement their radical agenda. i'm begging americans, you have to notice what's going on, see this for what it is. it is a power grab that is unprecedented in history, and we can't give it to them. brian: it's there in the platform for the dnc, and it's there when ilhan omar talks to axios. that is the policy. thanks so much, congressman dan crenshaw, best of luck in your race too. >> good to be with you guys. brian: janice dean's got the weather. >> hi. i know there's a lot of break news, but this is really important. we have, we think, a category two storm, a very strong storm moving into the eastern half of louisiana, into mississippi that could bring life-threatening storm surge. so this is a stronger storm than we originally anticipated. it's going to make landfall this often into this evening and, unfortunately, the storm is strengthening as it moves inland. we could see storm surge on order of 9 feet over these vulnerable coastlines including the new orleans area which is under a hurricane warning. very damaging winds as well that are certainly going to bring power lines down, and we're going to have a big problem on our hands as we get into the afternoon and this evening. expecting a landfall, we think, along the southeastern coast of louisiana, but the core of the strongest winds also going to affect mississippi. and this is a vulnerable coastline where some of it is below sea level. so this is very concerning because the storm is strengthening. it's a lot stronger than we had anticipated, and the national hurricane center is saying this is a life-threatening event are. please listen to all your local authorities and make your final preparations. this is a big deal, guys, you know? new orleans is -- has escaped the wrath of these storms so far. this one is different. back to you. steve: especially with all that flood potential behind you. it's just going to keep going and going and going. j.d., thank you very much. meanwhile, president trump is making a pitch to one key demographic. >> suburban women, you should love me for what i'm doing because i'm saving the suburbs. [cheers and applause] steve: well, up next a suburban mom who's supporting the president. but first, let's check in with sandra smith. sandra: we've got rachel campos-duffy coming up on that same story as well. good morning, everyone. six days to go until election day, 70 million votes cast as polls lean towards biden. karl rove will join us, three key battleground statements. plus a live update from philadelphia as the city sees another night of violence, more than 1,000 looters ransack businesses there. and we are watching for a tech hearing on capitol hill. facebook, twitter, google, mark zuckerberg will be joining live in the front of a senate committee this morning. we're going to be watching for news from that. join trace and i as we take you through the next three hours, live from "america's newsroom" six days out. see you in a moment. expecto patronum! and action. 16 people died! did he catch our bad guy? we're know as the charmed ones. you got one day to show me what you got. i want to fight. you need us harry. what a goal! bockey ball, hockey ball, you name it ball. i'm gonna be ready. just say show me peacock into your xfinity voice remote or download the app today. ♪ ♪ >> so the suburban woman wants law and order, they want safety, and they don't want a regulation that's going destroy the suburbs. and then i listen to these people talking about how is so four years ago they talked about the same thing. they said women will not be voting for donald trump. and then after about four hours and they declared total victory for trump. ainsley: president trump making a pitch to suburban women with less than a week to go before the election. one suburban mom is explaining whew e she's voting for trump in a new op-ed that she writes. quote: in 2016 i took a chance and cautiously vote for donald trump based on the promises he made. this year i'm proudly voting for him based on the leadership he's shown over the last three and a half years. lauren joins us now, or she's a mother of two. hey, lauren. >> hi, ainsley. thanks for having me on. ainsley: we're so glad that you're here. why, first of all, are you so happy with what he's done for your family? >> well, he's done, you know, he's kept every promise that he has made over the last four years. he's done more in 47 months than joe biden has done in 47 years, and i think it's just so important that we look in this election cycle, we don't look at it as personality, we start to look at it as policy. it's is so easy to get caught up in twitter feeds, but it's really about the policies that these two candidates are proposing. that's what we really need to focus on this election cycle. ainsley: what is it that the suburban mom wants in a candidate? >> first and foremost, the safety of our families. joejoe biden can't even i say te words law and order. it took him months to kind of, sort of condemn what's going on in this country. and now we're being told that this is mostly peaceful protests. donald trump has gotten the support of countless police organizations and unions that have reluctantly come out to even support anybody in past elections, and if they did, it was always the democrats because they know that this president has their back. iowans indiana uh-huh. >> and that's the kind of thing that we need the hook at. ainsley: lauren, i know you're a freelance journalist as well. around our sickles and our profession, here in new york city -- i know you live in fairfax, in d.c.. if you talk to a woman there, they're going to say vote for kamala because she's a female and what an example to tell our little girls. but you write you say you have two young daughters. you said a vote for trump a vote for your girls. why do you feel that way? >> well, you know, it's interesting that they say that about kamala, but they weren't saying that about amy coney barrett. i watched with my daughters, i watched the hearing, and here's a woman, she was first in her class at notre dame law school, she's a very accomplished law professor, she's very well respected, she has -- is a mom of seven kids, two of which she adopted from haiti. and we sat here, and i had to listen to a democrat senator, patrick leahy, who's been in the senate for 45 years, tell my daughters that she was going to set women back decades. i would like to know, this is joe biden's america, ladies and gentlemen. ing why is there a place at the table for ruth bader ginsburg,ing or but this is not a place for amy coney barrett? ainsley: what about the secret trump voter? are there some secret moms or a lot of secret mom voters out in the suburbs? >> oh, sure they are. we live in fairfax county, it's a very little area, but there are a lot of people over here that don't want to tell you who they vote for, they don't want the talk about it because people over here, they are very liberal. a. ainsley: yeah. people in new york, i'm sure you get this, will come up to me and say we watch fox, and i'm secretly voting for him, but i don't want my friends to know that, i hear that a lot. >> absolutely. we hear that a lot around here. ainsley: thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you, ainsley. ainsley: more "fox & friends" just moments away. finish >> there is a code under brian, open your smartphone, scan that and it will help you download the fox news app right there. >> it's the best app. i use it every day. you can watch fox coverage live. >> great election stuff. bye. >> sandra: a second night of violence erupts in philadelphia over the fatal police shooting of walter wallace junior. officers confronting hundreds of protestors some throwing bricks and rocks at police injuring at least one. 1,000 looters ransacked businesses overnight. some were caught on camera hauling away appliances including as seen there a washing machine out of the stores. this just hours after wallace's family begged for the violence to stop. a full report is coming up. >> president trump: this
tonight, president biden slamming republicans for refusing to join democrats in raising the nation's debt ceiling, calling their actions hypocritical, dangerous, and disgraceful. congress facing a deadline of october 18th, two weeks from tonight, to increase the country's borrowing limit, or the nation could default on its debt for the first time in history. facebook whistle-blower frances haugen testifying on capitol hill today, saying she is coming forward because she says facebook knows its platforms are used to spread hate and misinformation, but she alleges the company hides that evidence. and is this the end of the covid pandemic? is the end in sight? new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are all trending down. but what about the upcoming holiday season? we're going to get some answers from our very own dr. sanjay gupta. first i want to bring in cnn senior political analyst kirsten powers and john avlon. mr. avalon, you are first. so the country is facing the potential of its first default in our history. republicans know this could be catastrophic, but they're still refusing to blink. do they care about what this could do to the country, or do you think this is all about making democrats look bad? >> well, as mitch mcconnell said in a previous debt ceiling and default crisis, this is a hostage they're willing to ransom. that itself is a very dangerous game by its nature. h default would be disastrous not just to our economy but the world economy because we're the world's reserve currency. we're the only nation in the world, major industrialized nation in the world, that does this to our self. this is a self-inflicted crisis. we need to get rid of the debt ceiling and stop this polarization of it. we've raised the debt ceiling 31 times under a republican president since 1980. mitch mcconnell has voted for debts ceiling increases. this is designed to pay for things the republican congress already allocated under president trump. so stop this gamesmanship. stop holding the american economy hostage for partisan political games. >> kirsten, i think the term you like to use is owning the libs. that's why most republicans are doing what they're doing. we're talking about paying bills that have already been approved to be spent. i mean this isn't, you know -- and this isn't mainly trump's debt that the gop is refusing to pay. >> yeah. >> or it is mainly his debt. i said that wrong. it is mainly trump's debt that they're refusing to pay. let's get that right. >> yeah. but the bottom line for them is they don't want to do anything that could possibly be helpful to joe biden even if it's in the country's best interest. instead they're willing to put us on this sort of collision course with financial wreckage. and this in light of the fact that we've had this really awful period in our history where, you know, obviously it's been terrible because of all the people that have died, it's also been very difficult financially for a lot of people. the economy took a huge hit from it, so the idea that you would just be toying around with the economy and toying around with raising the debt limit to score political points is -- is pretty outrageous. >> john, president biden is calling republicans -- he says they're hypocritical and dangerous for not helping to raise the debt ceiling. this could pass with just democratic votes if the filibuster wasn't in the way. is this another problem that could have been avoided? i see you shaking your finger at me. >> that's the key point. that's the whole deal. you know, mitch mcconnell is here saying, look, democrats control the white house and both houses of congress, and joe biden voted against the debt ceiling in 2006. but there's a world of difference between voting against the debt ceiling, which by the way is not a stand of fiscal responsibility because it's things the congress has already voted to spend, and filibustering. that's what republicans are doing, which requires getting ten republican votes. in this circumstance, that's virtually mission impossible unless they back down. we've had democratic senates raise the debt ceiling for republican presidents, including for president trump. so this is hypocritical. it is dangerous, and it's not remotely normal. don't get fooled into thinking it is. >> kirsten, we're not just talking about the debt ceiling here, the debt ceiling standoff. biden's entire agenda is in jeopardy tonight. two sources tell cnn that biden told house progressives that the cost of the social safety net package needs to come down between $1.9 trillion, and $2.2 trillion. you think they're going to get onboard with this? >> you know, i have been an optimist throughout this entire situation, and i do think that they are going to get to that number. >> i thought you were going to say except for tonight. >> no. i think -- i don't believe the progressives really have ever thought or think that the number is going to be 3.5. so they understand that the number is going to have to come down, and i do believe that everybody recognizes, whether it's the moderates, you know, whether it's the progressives, they recognize the stakes here, and the stakes are huge. the stakes are huge for the country, and the stakes are huge for joe biden in terms of being able to get things done because, you know, if things go the way people think they're going to go in the midterms, then this could be his only chance. >> yeah. president biden is admitting, john, that this all hinges on two people, and we know who we're talking about, senators manchin and sinema. is it a smart strategy to single them out like this, to single them both out? >> well, that's where the problem is right now. i mean, look, manchin we know now laid out a pretty clear outline of his proposals to senator schumer in july. senator sinema, though, has been completely opaque. she leaves washington this weekend to go visit a foot doctor and have a meeting with her donors. and at this point you got to say what you're in favor of. ive mean if the white house is signaling they're going to reduce this bill by over a trillion, that should be a big win if their concerns are actually fiscal responsibility. if they're matters of actual specific policy, let's hear it. let's hear it in public and then find a reason together. biden is being patient because he realize process doesn't matter in the eyes of history. getting the ball down the field and getting a big bill passed does. the window is shrinking, though. this can't be done forever. kyrsten sinema needs to put forward what her priorities are and then vote for a bill that includes them. >> thank you, both. great joe biden and kyrsten sinema on "snl" this weekend. i was like, wow, they got them down. thank you. i appreciate it. i want to turn now to the controversy over facebook with cnn correspondent donie o'sullivan and legal and national security analyst asha rangappa. good evening to you two as well. so let's see, donie. facebook whistle-blower frances haugen is testifying before congress tomorrow. you have been going through her prepared testimony. what can we expect? >> reporter: yeah, don. she says very clearly that the she knows that a trillion dollar company like facebook, she says in her words, could destroy her. they could try and, you know, totally discredit all the accusations that she is leveling against them. but what she lays out, i think quite eloquently in her hoping statement, which we'll hear tomorrow morning, is really this idea that -- the idea that facebook is putting out to the world, that to have a platform where you upload photos and where you share stories and stay in touch with your family, that to have that platform for free, that you have to also, you know, possibly be exposed to misinformation and hate and everything else that we know is on facebook and instagram. and she's making the point pretty clearly that that doesn't have to be the case, that facebook is making choices here, and the choice she says is that they're choosing profit over safety. >> donie, facebook and other sites it owns, instagram and whatsapp were all offline for almost six hours today t. was really quiet. i kind of enjoyed it. for like six hours today. it was a mess that impacted billions of users worldwide. is this just a massive coincidence that this happened hours after this bombshell whistle-blower's interviewer? >> reporter: that certainly seems to be what facebook is suggesting. i want to show you a statement they've released in the past few minutes. i'll read it slowly. it is a lot of technical jargon. they're saying their engineering teams learned that a configuration changes on the backbone routers that coordinate network traffic between our data centers caused issues that interrupted communication. basically what they're saying there is that facebook's computers in their data centers, some form of setting change, a configuration change stopped these computers from being able to communicate effectively with each other, and that is what caused the outage. so they're saying here, it seems, it's a glitch, not an attack. but still they are being pretty slim on the details. one thing they did stress in this statement is that so far they have no evidence that any user data was exposed. but you're right, don. i mean the timing of this is very interesting, and it will, of course -- the company will have to investigate. >> it was interesting. i think one of the most interesting posts i saw afterwards was instagram, facebook, hurry up and come back up because i'm not an influencer nor a model, nor i forget what else, unless you're up. i thought about how the world has changed. there are people who simply have made their living on being facebook and instagram influencers and models and actors and promoters. >> i had no place to post my selfies for six hours. i was devastated. >> or your food or whatever people do. here's part of frances haugen, what she said on "60 minutes" last night. >> one of the consequences of how facebook is picking out that content today is it is optimizing for content that gets engagement or reaction. but its own research is showing that content that is hateful, that is divisive, that is polarizing, it's easier to inspire people to anger than it is to other emotions. >> misinformation, angry content. >> yeah. >> is enticing to people. >> it's very enticing. >> and keeps them on the platform. >> yes. facebook has realized that if they change the algorithm to be safer, people will spend less time on the site. they'll click on less ads. they'll make less money. >> interesting. asha, in your experience, does this result in the kind of echo chamber where people can be easily recruited if they are being fed a steady diet of hate and anger based on what they might initially click on? >> yes, don. we have seen that in spades with the covid misinformation, which was, you know, a lot of the top performing posts on facebook's site. but the bigger issue here is that what this whistle-blower is describing is that facebook as it's currently designed and currently managed to maximize engagement, to maximize growth, is really incompatible with democracy. you know, democracy requires deliberation. it requires evidence-based argument, reasoned debate, reaching consensus on just the shared reality if not an outcome. and what facebook wants its users to be in is a perpetual state of outrage and division. and that's how they make their money. and they also need their base to believe -- their user base to believe that that is actually what reality is, you know, so they project that out into the world. so, you know, i think we're facing kind of a choice here in terms of what values do we want, and can we get facebook, if not on their own, you know, through regulation to maximize democratic values rather than their own profit? >> listen, we could speak on and on and on about this. it's fascinating, but our time is up for now. we'll talk more. thank you both. i appreciate it. i want to bring in cnn global affairs analyst max boot. max, hello to you. let's talk about the politics of what we've been discussing in the segment before this one as well. you have a piece titled "the gop has become the stupid party and proud of it," proud of being stupid. what is that all about? talk to me about that. >> well, this was sort of inspired by a press release that congresswoman lauren boebert of colorado sent out a couple weeks ago, calling on congress to imeach. it was supposed to be impeach biden, but she had imeach biden in giant letters across the top. i thought it was kind of symbolic of where the gop is today, both in the combination of political fanaticism and extreme partisanship, but also in this contempt not just for political norms but for spelling norms and kind of basic rules of grammar. you know, this is something that donald trump perfected where, you know, his twitter feed was notorious not just for all sorts of lies but really just stupid, obvious misspellings. people even thought he was putting that in there on purpose because he was signaling contempt for elites who care about things like spelling. i mean on one level, this is just absurd and laughable, but there's a serious point here, don, which is when i was growing up in the 1980s, the republican party actually had a reputation as the party of ideas. and under donald trump's leadership, it's really reclaimed an older reputation as being the stupid party. and for a lot of republicans and populists in the republican ranks, that's not something that they're ashamed about. that's not something they're embarrassed about. they're proud of being known as the stupid party because they're signaling contempt for education, for elites, for knowledge, that they think they're standing up for the common man by just uttering inane and ignorant opinions. and that's a very dangerous position for one of the two major parties to be in. >> well, that's like people who wrote on twitter -- i think it was twitter, i'm not sure. maybe it was facebook. don lemon, your, yo-oy-o-u-r, a moran. >> i get those all the time. you expect stuff like that from random trolls or random people out there, but the examples in my column, it's all members of congress who are saying this stuff, all this nonsense about like louie gohmert talking about birds burning up over solar panels or, you know, marjorie taylor greene, who says she doesn't believe in evolution but does believe in jewish space lasers. >> can i play some examples for you of ron johnson first up. let's hear it. >> yeah. >> we do not have an fda-approved vaccine being administered in the u.s. >> could you ever get behind a vaccine mandate for everybody? >> no, not unless there's some incredibly deadly disease. i mean much higher infection fatality rates how doeshat harvargrad not en the contradicon h thiis actun publican tpe les prott medire fro socialist alth sec who provesede? roc johnson claiming that, you know, covid, which has only killed 700,000 people, making it the worst pandemic in a century, that's not serious enough to have vaccinations? i mean this -- again, at some level this is just absurd and laughable and ridiculous, but this is serious. i mean these people actually have power. >> and you have marco rubio calling biden's plan marxism. is this stupidity all just an act, or are they really just that stupid? i don't know. >> i think for some people it is an act. you have to believe elise stefanik probably knows better because she actually went to harvard. a lot of them, it's not an act. >> marco rubio is an educated man as well. many of them are. >> he should know better. at some point it really doesn't matter. do they know better? are they actually as dumb as they appear, or are they just acting dumb? even if they're just acting dumb, that tells you something about who they're appealing to, what the republican party is about when even the brightest lights have to pretend to be ddim bulbs. >> max boot, the new piece is titled "the gop has become the stupid party -- and proud of it." thank you, sir. i appreciate it. >> thank you, don. one single state is leaving billions of covid relief on the table, and students will be the ones to suffer. plus president biden has just about had it with republicans refusing to do their jobs and pay america's debt even though they've done it time after time after time before. ri. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. i would've called yesterday. but... i could've called yesterday. but... i should've called yesterday, but... would've, could've, should've. we hear that a lot. hi. i'm jonathan, an insurance professional and manager here at colonial penn life insurance company. sometimes, people put off calling about life insurance. before you know it, another year has passed. and when they do call, they say, "i wish i'd called sooner." call right now for free information on the $9.95 plan. are you between age 50 and 85? 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>> well, it's kind of scary. actually, of course, nobody knows, but it's not just that the u.s. government suddenly finds itself without enough cash to pay its bills. the dollar is special. u.s. government debt is special. the whole world financial system is built on using u.s. treasury bills as collateral. so all of a sudden, you've taken the world's safest asset and made it not something that is meeting its obligations. so nobody really knows, but it is definitely a very scary prospect. >> you know, cnn is learning that president biden told -- today told progressives that the social safety net package needs to come down between $1.9 trillion, and $2.2 trillion. you recently wrote a column about how the progressive wing is advancing popular policies while the conservative wing is willing to risk blowing up the president's agenda. you describe it as biden versus a rip van winkle caucus. you say democratic moderates need to wake up. talk to me about that, paul. >> yeah. there's still a group -- moderates, i hate that term. basically if there's a good term for it, it's actually the corporate wing of the party, the ones who are listening to u.s. e chamber of commerce instead of the public. but they're acting as if it's still the 1990s when you could make deals with republicans, when we were just not at all in this kind of situation. but they're also acting as if the kinds of things people believed in the 1990s, low taxes lead to higher growth, government is bad, the era of big government is over, were still relevant. at this point, what the progressives are asking for, even the full $3.5 trillion is not a huge thing. it's 1.2% of gdp over the next decade. it's a medium-sized initiative of stuff that has lots of good economic analysis, saying that it's actually going to be highly productive. so saying that, you know, we need to scale this back, that we need to kind of think that it's 1993 again is -- or 1999 again, that's a really -- you know, where have these people been for the past 20 years? >> how do you see this -- does this correct itself? i mean what should the president do or the democratic party, or what should happen in order to correct this? >> well, you know, it is this crazy thing where the democrats have zero margin. they have to have every single senator, and so we're down to kind of, you know, analyzing the psychology of sinemanchin. that's what some of my friends call it. the idea forward is you get a deal as good as you can, but you definitely don't allow -- what the corporate wing of the party wants to do is just have steel and concrete and nothing else. that's just not acceptable. that's a total failure. in fact, it's the human investments that are the thing that will do the most good. and if it falls short, progressives originally wanted $6 trillion. if it ends up being less than $3.5 trillion, i'll be unhappy, but at least let it be significant. >> paul krugman, always a pleasure. thank you, sir. >> okay. take care. positive signs in the fight against covid. are we on the other side of what could be the last major spike? 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>> you know, don, it's funny. doing television, i think the amount of information and knowledge that i'm sort of trying to absorb even to do a few minutes with you every night is probably twentyfold to one. all these papers, i've just been taking these notes and doing all these things and i felt like there were so many lessons that i had learned. i talk to scientists all over the world and the thing that kept coming up over and over again is it's essentially possible to make yourself pandemic-proof. it's very much within our control. we kind of knew that, but some of the ways we do it are surprising, even when it comes to our own individual health. i mean 80% of your immunity -- if i say, don, you need to improve your immunity, how would you do it? 80% of your immunity is in your gut. it's also a big source of your serotonin, your mood. very related to your gut. how do you transform your body into one that can better fight this virus or at least not get so sick from it? also, don, let me show you. in the united states, we know that citizens here are much more likely to have the risk factors that set them up for severe disease, whether it be obesity, diabetes, chronic kidney disease, all these types of things. they are the diseases of affluence. they happen in wealthy countries. wealthy countries got hit hard by this pandemic. usually you think of a new infection, new outbreak, you think poorly developed countries are going to be hit harder. not the case here. it was almost the reverse. why? part of it's what you see on the screen there. so the idea that we could come better prepared even for the next few months but also for the next several years and decades, i think, is very much within our power. i wanted to have a releal prescription on how to get there. >> we need to take care of our obesity problem in this country, which is a contributing factor, i'm sure you will agree. i want to ask you this, sanjay, because you were talking about your gut. you also specifically touch on the importance of microbiome. is that what you're talking about? >> the microbiome, yeah. the microbiome. so that is this sort of universe of organisms that live inside our gut and are very responsible for our immunity and for frankly many functions. they call it the second brain in the body. and i just -- i've always known about this. it wasn't taught in medical school, but i learned it on my own over the last decade or so, and it's very interesting again going to this idea that what you -- i'm going to exaggerate a little bit, but what you had for breakfast this morning could influence how much you'd be affected by the disease tonight because of your microbiome. it is that specific, and there are ways to really put yourself in the best possible position not only to help diminish some of those diseases you just saw on the screen, but to make it less likely you're going to get sick of covid if you get it or a future pathogen. that part is really striking. again, there were countries around the world, south korea versus the united states, i use this example because first patients were diagnosed the same day. >> it's up on the screen now. >> don, look at that. blue is south korea. red is us. i mean they're one-sixth the size of us, but how do you explain that? we're all human beings. what did they do so different that we have, you know, 43 million confirmed cases in the united states, and they had 300,000? there's something there. there are real lessons, and they're going to be important because, again, there will be more emerging pathogens. these viruses keep jumping into humans. they don't have to turn into pandemics. we can be the blue line next time around, and that's why i really wanted to write the book. >> i can't wait to read it. i had the opportunity to get it. i didn't. there it is on the screen. i said, hey, this book doesn't come out until next week, but anyway -- >> thought it was a bootleg. >> so i didn't buy it. anyway, "world war c: lessons from the covid-19 pandemic and how to prepare for the next one." ike i'm going to buy it, sanjay. thank you, sanjay. best of luck. we appreciate it. >> you got it. thanks, don. >> and we'll be right back. age before beauty? why not both? visibly diminish wrinkled skin in... crepe corrector lotion... only from gold bond. look, i gotta say something. 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together on the trump, russia investigation. one of these reporters is famously the reporter who first got the monica lewinsky story about president bill clinton. the other one happens to have broken the news about the trump russia, christopher steel disyeah, the same reporter that broke the 47% news during the mitt romney campaign in 2012. as a team, these two investigative reporters wrote the definitive book on what the u.s. government lied about in the leadup to the iraq war and how the u.s. government sold the country on the iraq war even though the premise for that war was false. they got an incredible track record of turning stuff up as a team and now, that same super power reporting team is going to get back together again despite the fact they write for different news outlets, they are getting back together again to write a book together again because right now they have got the trump russia story in their sights. so that was just announced today. that will end up being a big deal, i promise you. one of those reporters is here tonight. as the attorney general, jeff sessions comes under renewed pressure over his own denials that he had contacts with russian officials during the campaign. the president himself is also having some new trouble with one of his own statements denying a connection with russia. that statement now falling apart under new scrutiny. we got that story ahead including a visit with one of those investigative reporters and the daily beast here as that publication breaks the news about a new level of russian involvement. this is activity by the russians here inside the united states that we didn't know about before today. that report is coming up here tonight, as well. i want to start off tonight, though, with a report that aired tonight on "nbc nightly news." last night on the show you might remember we had the governor of the u.s. virgin islands here on the show talking about the devastation that the u.s. virgin islands are facing after hurricane irma, but tonight ron mott is there in the u.s. virgin islands. >> reporter: this afternoon in puerto rico, a coast guard loading up with supplies heading for some of the islands irma hit hardest. on board bringing everything they can to keep this relief effort going. there are tsa officers on board with a goal of getting the airport in st. thomas back up and running. virgin islands whipped with category five winds. >> for a place once completely green and lush, everything now looks dead and bleak. >> reporter: tonight, still largely cut off, no cell phones, limited fuel. >> long line right here. this is a gas station and everything. there are so many people. >> reporter: the devastation on the u.s. virgin islands of st. thomas and st. john almost unbelievable. >> you could not even see the street in some areas because it was covered in trees and roofs and just every kind of debris imaginable. >> reporter: from the air, stunning images emerging. pieces of hill on hillsides. >> this section of my mom's room, the roof came off. >> reporter: you can see it from space, st. martin before and after irma came blowing through. buildings flattened, cars crushed. tonight, the urgent need for relief aid is growing. residents struggling to get by. >> we need water and food. it not no maybe, it's for sure. >> reporter: others trying to get out. the kentucky national air guard evacuated more than 1,000 americans and royal caribbean is using cruise ships to puerto rico. left behind a tropical paradise desperately trying to pick up the pieces. >> important reporting from ron mott where the destruction is becoming a significant humanitarian concern now. the three major islands in the u.s. virgin islands are st. croix, st. thomas and st. john. st. croix as we heard from the governor last night appears to have weathered the storm well. st. thomas less well and st. john appears to have weathered it not well at all. eyewitnesss in st. john estimate that three out of every five homes on st. john had the roof ripped off by the storm. we're getting reports that none of the wooden homes on st. john are still standing, none of them. one nurse at the local hospital in st. john tells us that fellow residents have been donating their own personal supplies of diesel fuel to keep power running at the hospital. which is now running on generators on diesel power. this is day six since the storm wiped out this part of this american territory. it the responsibility of the u.s. government and u.s. virgin islands. there is news tonight the state department will be starting emergency evacuation flights out of the british virgin islands and st. martin as of tomorrow morning. but the situation in some of the u.s. virgin islands really does appear to be quite bad and there hasn't been that much news about it really. we've been talking to people in the u.s. virgin islands just on our staff all day today. we've been talking to people on the islands trying to get a beat on this story over and over again. people said they felt like they are being forgotten by the u.s. despite these dire conditions and despite the fact that these are the u.s. virgin islands. so we'll have a live report from st. thomas in just a second. i think to be honest, part of the reason the extremely bad conditions in the caribbean or broadly in the u.s. virgin islands, part of the reason they are not getting more attention is because there is a crowd looking for attention on these stories. just in florida, this effort to try to rekocover, department of hope land security says at peak 15 million americans had no power because of the storm. that number is slowly coming down as crews get to work but this is now at least a couple of days in for millions of americans not having power. you can get a sense of the challenges from satellite showing florida before and after irma. now in pitch darkness until they can restore the power dprgrid. eletrictricity can be back for east coast, the atlantic coast by this weekend but other parts may have to wait longer particularly in the keys. there is also concerned about the drinking water. the florida keys authority says the transmission main that brings water to the islands appears to be in tact but in an abundance of caution they issued a boil water notice to anybody using tap water anywhere in the keys. there are notices in at least 23 other florida counties including broward county where residents are being told they can shower in unboiled water as long as they can be sure they won't get any water in the eyes or mouth while showering. again, 23 counties with boil water advisories right now. yesterday after the pentagon said that as many as 10,000 people might need to be evacuated out of the keys, a county official there pushed back and said no evacuation of that kind of scale is going to be necessary at all. but fema is is publicliest mating that one out of every four homeowners, one out of every four. they are saying of the remaining homes two thirds of them suffered what they are calling major damage. so the housing situation in the keys and livability situation on the keys right now is a serious matter. today local county officials started letting residents and business owners come back to the keys closest to the florida mainland but that news arrived with a warning. quote, returning residents should consider that there are limit limited, and in other words come down if you need in terms of the ability. now u.s. sent black hawk helicopters for rescue operations. the navy using infrared technology to spot anyone that may be stranded overnight. u.s. abraham lincoln aircraft carrier is stationed off the keys, one of the helpful things it can do in a circumstance like this is produce 100,000 gallons of fresh water a day that may end up being a big deal, depending how long this goes on. in the caribbean, the world food program of the united nations is sending 20 tons of high energy biscuits, enough to feed 17,000 people for three days. those emergency rationens are going go g going to antiga and st. martin and communications equipment. and as i mentioned at the top tonight, the u.s. state department has announced there will be evacuation flights for u.s. citizens leaving from st. martin and from the british virgin islands in the morning. state department says u.s. citizens who can get to st. martin and the airport to arrive at the airport and the british virgin islands at the airport, the deadline for u.s. citizens to get to the airport tomorrow to get on a flight is 9:00 a.m. joining us from st. thomas in the u.s. virgin islands is suzanne carlson. she's a staff writer for the"da news." thanks for joining us. i know types are tough. >> thanks for having me. >> where were you during the storm and how have you been holding up? >> i was at the newspaper's office during the storm and rode it out with colleagues and it was absolutely terrifying. i never experienced anything like that before. it was extreme ly frightening t hear what sounded engi engine. things flying around and the building was shaking and roof was shaking. the building survived and we came through just fine. >> it's been hard to get a lot of information out of -- a lot of different places in the caribbean and understandable why. people are in survival mode in some cases and communications infrastructure is down and hard to reach people and talking to the u.s. news media and the american mainland but given that i think it been hard to piece together a sense of how dire the circumstances are, even just in the u.s. virgin islands there, can you just give us your assessment about how tough things are right now in st. john and particular and also in st. thomas? >> absolutely. i haven't been able to make it over to st. john myself but i've heard from people who were there and it sounds like the island is virtually wiped out. it sounds really devastating. st. thomas isn't fairing that much better. every single person here has been affected in someway. i have friends and co-workers that lost everything. their houses are gone. so there are some people who are doing better than others. some people their houses are fine. they are in good health but now the concern for everyone is keeping food and water and supplies stocked. gas has been a big issue. so it's going to be a long, hard road for a lot of people for months if not years. >> how are supplies of basic necessities? we talked to the governor who talked about a major effort to distribute for example bottled water but we hear people are having a hard time getting access to food and water and very basics. >> it's been incredibly difficult for a lot of people. part of the reason not much information is coming out is we can't get it out. this is a first time i've been able to make a phone call and have any confidence it would last for more than a few seconds. internet is still down. no internet in the office and a lot of people on the island struggling before the hurricane hit. and now they are being told, you know, they are finding themselves having suddenly to walk in search of food, water, gas, you know, a lot of people with children trying to get diapers and supplies. it is extraordinary dire for a lot of people here and there are many people suffering tremendously. >> suzanne carlson joining us on the phone from st. thomas and u.s. virgin islands. appreciate what you and your colleagues have been through trying to live through and cover this. please keep us apprised as best you can. we want to keep people informed as best we can. >> will do. thank you, rachel. we got lots ahead tonight. do stay with us. steve was born to move. over the course of 9 days he walks 26.2 miles, that's a marathon. because he chooses to walk whenever he can. and he does it with support from dr. scholl's. only dr. scholl's has massaging gel insoles that provide all-day comfort to keep him feeling more energized. so he even has the 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almost the same thing. new york magazine and "the washington post" reported despite his earlier denials he had any contact with russians during the campaign, newly minted attorney jeff sessions had in fact met more than once with the russian ambassador during the campaign. now, once those news stories broke, sessions responded initially on march 1st by continuing to deny it. continuing to deny he had any contact with russian officials. by the following day, by march 2nd, he was admitting to it. on march 2nd, that's the day he admitted he had contacts and announced he would recuse himself from any investigations involving any aspect of the presidential campaign including the russia stuff. now, reports at the time suggested that the president had not only told jeff sessions he shouldn't recuse himself, reports at the times suggested that the president went quote ballistic after jeff sessions made his announcement that he was going to recuse. now whether or not that's personally true of the president, i don't know. i'm not sure whether any of us should care but in terms of what the white house did, they did right after jeff sessions' recusa recusal, they did sharply turn on the russia investigation right after sessions announced his recusal, right after that they tried for the first time to go on offense on the russia story, to try to make the russia scandal into something somebody else should have to answer for, not them. two days after jeff sessions recused himself was when the president sent that bizarre now famous tweet saying that president obama was a bad and/or sick guy. [ laughter ] >> because according to president trump, he just learned that obama wiretapped him at trump tower during the campaign. now looking back on that now, we can recognize that as the first of several efforts by the white house to try to make the russia investigation into somebody else's problem. they have senince tried to make fired fbi director james comey into the villain and make the special counsel robert mueller into the villain in that story and tried to make former mi 6 officer christopher steel and fusion gps to collect the intel in the trump russia and try to make fusion gps into the villain and russian story. they tried it with a bunch of people. the very first time they tried this tactic of making somebody else the bad guy in the story, that was when trump blamed obama. trump said obama was the bad, sick villain for having wiretapped him at trump tower and there ought to be an investigation. the white house use that allegation at the time not only to try to divert blame and make somebody else the bad guy, they also used it to try to literally to try to stop talking about the trump russia scandal. shortly after trump made his allegation that president obama had wiretapped him, sean spicer announced to his white house spokesman that the white house would no longer speak about this issue. the white house would not longer comment about matters until there had been a proper invest fwags into the oc -- investigation into the behavior of this matter and wiretaps. spicer announced there would be no comment on russia related until the obama investigation was complete. that was nice stunt, right? a nice try. you know, they were not able to avoid ever talking about russia matters ever again despite that pronouncement they would hence force seize to speak about it. for what it's worth, that investigation into the obama administration wiretapping trump tower, that investigation technically is complete now. late at night on the friday before the labor day weekend, the department of justice and the fbi submitted a filing to a d.c. court admitting neither the fbi or national security d division had any evidence to support president trump's allegation that he had been wiretapped by the previous administration. quote, both the fbi and the nsd, national security division of justice department confirm they have no records related to wiretaps as described by the march 4th, 2017 tweets by the president. late at night, on friday. before the labor day weekend. but still, they had to do it. that confirmation that president obama never ordered a wiretap and president trump lied when he made that allegation, that confirmation was forced into the public record into that court filing by a freedom of information about demand filed by a group called american over sight. and you know what? tactically that was a smart use of foya. here is the president saying that the u.s. government had been directed by his predecessor to wiretap trump's phones. if that allegation were true, reasonably speaking, there would be records of that order or at least there would be records of that order being carried out so it's an elegant part of reliability to request any such dock humentation of the order bg issued or follow heed up on and boom. it's a direct way of figuring out if it happened. now we know it never happened. again, that revelation was forced into the open by this watchdog group american oversight. and now today, american oversight is doing it again. because when jeff sessions, the attorney general had to retract his previous denials and admit that yes, in fact, he had met with russian officials during the campaign, part of what that did is create a political problem for the white house with him having to take himself out of his attorney general role in terms of overseeing any russia investigations but also created a problem for jeff sessions himself. because one of the places he denied ever meeting during the campaign was when he was under oath during the confirmation hearings and also lied by omission in his sworn paperwork he submitted to apply for a security clearance. that application asked about your meeting with foreign officials. he did not declare any meetings a with russians as part of the application. how will he explain that? it took a few weeks after the recrr recuse l thing happened but he had the justice department put out a statement giving him not exactly an alibi but at least an excuse for what he had done. in march he recused himself. in may, finally, you got the justice department to put out the statement claiming that the reason that he had left his meetings with the russians off his security clearance application is because quote, the fbi investigator handling the back ground check instructed him not to list meetings with foreign dig tanything dig thadi. the reason he didn't expose it on the application for security clearance is because he says the fbi told him not to. of course he would have. he would be happy to disclose those things enthouven though hd about it to newspapers. happy the disclose it. the fbi told him not to. following fbi advice. that the his excuse/alibi. that is checkable and today, the same artists who forced administration to admit trump's wiretap allegation was false, today, they are at it again. today they failed a lawsuit demanding jeff sessions prove his alibi. prove his excuse for lying on his security clearance application. people today filed a lawsuit to force the justice department and fbi to back up that assertion, if they can. to disclose the instructions that the fbi gave to attorney general jeff sessions when he was applying for that security clearance. according to the groups that filed the suit, quote, if jeff sessions wants us to believe his excu excuse, he should prove it. these documents should be easy to produce and we look forward to receiving them promptly from the fbi. you know, benefit of the doubt, maybe the fbi did tell jeff sessions he didn't have to disclose his meetings with russians when he was applying for a security clearance. maybe they gave him that instruction which is what he says happened. if so, the fbi ought to be able to prove that relatively easily and will turn out to be a strange piece of advice they gave him but at least, if that's true, sessions will get sured up in terms of his excuse why he filed that false paperwork. if it turns out the fbi didn't give that instruction and his x excuse is false, what will the consequences of that be? some day i swear, we are going to run down all of the cover stories and excuses and denials that have come out of the trump administration and campaign over the last nine months just on the issue of their contacts with russians. some day we'll cancel all other news and spend the whole hour on the show listing all of the times various members of the administration and transition and campaign said something denying contacts with russians that was later proved to be untrue. it will take a full hour to get through the full list and we'll have to kill commercials but i mean, it a pretty astonishing list that includes the attorney general, jeff sessions and former national security advisor and paul manafort and mike pence and kelly anne conway and, and, and, and. to the extent there is a coordinated or uncourt natordin effort to cover up the extent of connections and dealings between trump and russia, there have been a lot of people in the administration and campaign who have participated in that activity. the most important person in any coverup would be the president himself and today david corn writes about a piece of the president's effort to cover up his own connections with russia, a piece of that is now being proven to be plblatantly false d that story is next. ♪ so, i was at mom and dad's and found this. cd's, baseball cards... your old magic set? 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>> i think this is the most important time. in december 2015, donald trump is the front runner for the republican presidential nomination that might be surprising to him as it was to a lot observers at the time. he's asked about felix sater and said i don't know him. never heard of him. the same time as we now know but didn't know back then, felix sater was brokering a deal for him to build a trump tower in moscow. for 30 years, literally 30 years, donald trump tried to do business in moscow. many times he got close. but it never got over the finish line. he never got that trump tower in moscow built. here he was in the middle of a deal to give him $4 million up front into his own pocket, dealing with russia. what did he need to make the deal happen? the permission of the russian government. who is the head of the russian government? vladimir putin. who is donald trump saying oddly positive things about throughout the campaign? vladimir putin. so to acknowledge felix sater in december 2015, would in essence be acknowledging he was in the middle of this deal when he was running for president, when he was telling the american public he would put america first, american interests over everything else when actually he was in no position to criticize vladimir putin because he and his organization were asking putin for help to build the project. this is in someways the most massive conflict of interest that we've ever seen in a modern presidential campaign and i think this is why, this is one of the most consequential deceptions of the trump campaign. imagine what would have happened in december of 2015. he said oh, yeah, i know felix sater. he's brokering a deal for me this very moment with russia and i knead vladimir putin on my side to make it happen. what do you think would happen to donald trump's presidential prospects right then and there? he had to deny knowing satyr, he had to deny the deal. he hit this deal from the american public. >> david, i feel like i'm starting to feel like there is is this mountain of not just trump russia connections and trump russia deals and trump russia financial connections but this mountain of documented false denials and it includes this one from the president but it also includes, you know, jeff sessions saying he didn't have russia contacts. he did. paul man fort saying he didn't have russia contacts. he did. flynn saying he didn't have contacts, don junior, jared kushner. they put it in sworn statements and applications for security clearances. over and over and over again the same thing going in the same direction. what does that add up to in the end? lying isn't a crime -- consistently covering up connections, where does that go in the end? >> even today they say over and over again, there was no collusion. when we have the june 9th meeting with donald trump junior and jared kushner. they claim they didn't get any negative opposition research on hillary clinton out of the deal but they certainly tried. that is colluding by definition and say there was no collusion. my concern is that we have a lot of pieces, you know, but we look at this as a mosaic and often lose the big picture. not you. you do a good job of pulling it together but media overall rush from one new tidbit or lie found out to the next one and you got to -- if you sit back and look at what he did in terms of not telling the public about dealing with russia, what they have done about colluding when they have colluded and, throughout the campaign, donald trump kept saying that the russians had 234 nothing to do with it. they were told that russia wanted to help. that's a big importance of the june 9th hemeeting. you put that stuff together. it sn it's not smoke. it's fire. donald trump was trying to do business with russia and then six months later, russia trying to help the trump campaign. it not very complicated. but i think in our current sort of one party rule in congress and the white house, they -- the political conerer statir conere conversation doesn't dig into the big pictures. >> will you sit there for one other second? 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[ laughter ] >> i had to read about this in the new york times? >> i've been working on this for a long time with michael. we would rather do the work than talk about the work. >> can you tell us at all what the book is going to focus on? is it a historical book? is it a book about current reporting? >> a bit of both. we're looking at everything leading up to the russian hack, the history of russian intelligence operations, history of u.s. russia relations and what happened with the hack and how the parties and the campaigns and the white house responded to it and what was going on behind the scenes in the intelligence community at the time. >> david corn, mother jones d.c. burro chief announcing today he and michael are back together for a new book. thank you for being here. >> thank you so much. much more ahead, stay with us. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. tylenol can't do that. aleve. all day strong. all day long. also try aleve direct therapy with tens technology for lower back pain relief. oh, you yeah!ht butch. 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or multiple events associated with lots of different groups? >> they were super koy abocoy a that. >> okay. so this is what is making me crazy. facebook spent months denying there was any russia involvement in their platform related to the election whatsoever. not only were they denying that they could be used as a platform for fake information, whatever. i understand that i have a business reason to deny that but denying there was any presence of russian money or russian operatives in their campaign, denying it for months, they now admit it. now they're willing to admit to you that yeah, there was maybe this event. but they still won't disclose anything in terms of what other russian operations might have been organized through their platform. >> there is either two options. one, thaw don't know themselves yet, which is super weird for one of the internet's most powerful companies that has the most powerful facial recognition database in the world and has the most sophisticated algorithms for outing all kinds of objectional content. they still don't know or know and aren't telling. both of those alternatives are not great. >> if they know hand they're not telling, it raises interesting questions about whether or not they're going to be available as a potential crime scene for investigators to look at for the russia investigation writ large, whether it's the mueller inquiry or any of the congressional investigations. if some of the russian crimes committed in the election or any american confederates helping them happened via facebook will, facebook allow investigators to follow the clues where they lead? >> my strong suspicion is they will. and thing is also another interesting turn here, right. the first part of the russia scandal involves secret information, involved hacked information in the dnc, right? now the interesting part is part two, and maybe the more interesting part actually took place kind of in public on facebook and decoding what happened in public may tell us more about the turnout of the election than some hacked e-mails from dnc operatives. >> and when you look at what we know about the public information and what your reporters were able to discover in terms of tracing these things on facebook, what's your understanding about whether or not this could have been a purely foreign operation, or whether or not this was something where there was domestic component in terms of operators here working in cahoots with russian operatives who were working from st. petersburg or wherever to make this happen? >> i don't think we know yet. i don't think we know what's tail and what's dog yet. like i don't think we know when these seemingly loony tunes anti-immigrant, anti-muslim protesters are ginning stuff up, are they taking direction from moscow? is moscow kind of piggybacking off of what they do? i don't think that relationship is clear at all yet. >> and do you -- is it your sense that that's a figure outable thing? it's one thing to not know now. it's another thing to know whether or not this sort of activity leaves breadcrumbs that anybody is going to follow? >> yes, this should be the online propaganda. a mixed metaphor. >> well, you helped to advance the story in a way that makes me feel super creepy, but also better informed. noah schactman, editor for the daily beast. appreciate it. all right. we'll be right back. stay with us. you totanobody's hurt, new car. but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. senator mark warner is the top democrat on the intelligence committee. this is what he had to say the day after facebook finally confirmed that, yeah, there had been russian ad buys trying to affect the election. >> it was my belief that the russians were using those sites to intervene in our elections. and, you know, the first reaction from facebook of course oh, you're crazy, nothing is going on. well, we find yesterday there actually was something going on. i think all we saw yesterday in terms of their brief was the tip of the iceberg. >> tip of the iceberg. that was senator warner talking on thursday last week about facebook finally admitting that russian money had made its way on to facebook to buy ads to try to influence americans to try to influence the election. today with that reporting we just discussed with noah schactman, we got a little more of what is in the iceberg when the daily beast reported that not only was russia trying to change what news americans saw, what americans heard about in terms of the election via information operations, they were also literally trying to organize americans to go to anti-muslim, anti-immigrant, anti-refugee rallies, because apparently russia saw it in their interest that we would start having rallies like that in places like idaho. the story of what the russians did in this last election, using everyday tools like your mom's facebook feed, it is getting to be a truly big deal in the trump russia investigation. and it's getting to be a very interesting question as to whether or not facebook and twitter and these other social media gigantic companies are going to cooperate with the investigation and help investigators figure out how they were used. today the democratic and republican leaders of the senate intelligence committee said they are considering a public hearing with facebook in particular, but also other social media companies. they say they want to ask about the role of russian money and russian ads and russian bots in russia trying to tip the election towards donald trump. mark warner said about this today, quote, i question whether facebook has put near the amount of resources they need to getting us all the facts. that would be interesting to see on capitol hill. facebook testifying if they ever choose to do it. meanwhile, happy to say right here senator mark warner will be with us here on this show tomorrow night. i have a lot to ask him about. also, little reminder. we've got hillary clinton here in studio on thursday night for one of the first interviews that she is doing about her big new book. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening. >> good evening. as usual, he will have to watch your show tomorrow night with senator warner so i can figure out how to handle this hour of
television. because you will be breaking news. >> i'll send you notes as he says stuff that makes news. >> well, he will be watching. thanks, rachel. >> thanks, lawrence. >> no democratic presidential candidate, not one has won north dakota in over half a century. 53 years ago president lyndon johnson won north dakota in 1964, and that was the year after the assassination of president john f. kennedy when lyndon johnson was winning in a landslide. president kennedy himself lost north dakota to richard nixon in 1960, and it wasn't close. it's never close in north dakota. in presidential elections. donald trump beat hillary clinton in north dakota by 36 points. take a look at that. look at that store. 63-27. that's north dakota voting. that is the reason president trump invited north dakota democratic senator heidi heitkamp to dinner tonight at the white house. 36 points. and those 36 points are the reason that heidi heitkamp accepted the dinner invitation. senator heitkamp won her election to the senate in north dakota in 2012 by exactly one point. donald trump won her state by 36 points. politically, heidi heitkamp can't afford to turn down a dinner invitation from this white house. not when she represents a state filled with trump voters. it is hard being a democrat in north dakota, especially in the age of trump. and it is hard being a democrat in west virginia and indiana. it is hard for a democrat to win a statewide election in those states. the three democratic senators from those states were invited to dinner at the white house tonight. heidi heitkamp along with joe donnell, indiana, joe manchin of west virginia, they are the only three democratic senators who did not sign senate democratic leader chuck schumer's letter to republican leader mitch mcconnell and to president donald trump outlining the democrats' principles for tax reform, which was the suggest on the table tonight at the white house. three republicans joined the table -- senator john thune of south dakota, pat toomey of south carolina. and the senior member of the delegation, utah's orrin hatch, who is also the chairman of the senate finance committee where the tax bill will actually be written that dining table tonight was not the place where a tax deal was going to get done, if the republicans can get a tax deal done. the president couldn't possibly get a commitment of support for a tax bill tonight by any of the three democrats because there is no bill for them to support yet. no bill at all. the dinner at the white house tonight was mostly for the people who were not there. the voters of west virginia and indiana and north dakota, where each one of those democratic senators are up for reelection next year. the president and the republicans want to put as much pressure as possible on those democratic senators to vote for whatever the republican tax bill is going to be. and the republicans need trump voters in those states to exert that pressure on those three democratic senators. senator joe manchin issued this statement tonight after the dinner. "i was glad to join the president tonight to discuss how we can work together in a bipartisan manner on tax reform. we had a productive conversation about areas of agreement as well as areas where we will have to find compromise. i will continue to fight for a simpler tax code that lowers rates for west virginians and incentivizes main street businesses to invest and grow in america." now, if you stop there, if senator manchin stopped there, everything that senator manchin said, all of that generality is something that every senator from both parties could agree with. but senator manchin did not stop there. he did add one specific deal point. "but we must do this without adding to our staggering debt." if joe manchin votes against the republican tax bill, it will be because it adds to our staggering debt, and republicans writing a tax bill that doesn't add to our staggering debt is virtually impossible. we have been here before. a republican president pushing tax cuts with democratic senators from republican states feeling that pressure. when president george w. bush pushed tax cuts in 2001 and 2003, kent conrad was serving as north dakota's democratic senator. kent conrad voted against both of the bush tax cuts, and he was doing that about ten years after voting for the bill clinton tax increases. and through it all kent conrad was re-elected in north dakota, sometimes with over 60% of the vote. no one understands the pressures on those three democrats sitting at that white house dining table tonight better than kent conrad. and joining us now, former democratic senator from north dakota, kent conrad, former chairman of the senate budget committee and a former member of the senate finance committee. and when i saw those invitations go out, senator, i thought of you. i thought well, if kent conrad was in the senate and trump had won by 36 points in north dakota, he'd probably be getting one of those invitations. what would you have done? would you have gone to this dinner? >> absolutely. first of all, i think anyone, any sitting senator who is invited to the white house by a president of either party should go, because it's a chance to influence the outcome. and besides, it's also good manners. you know, when george bush -- george w. bush, bush 43 was elected for the second time, the first trip he made was to north dakota to push his social security package. he asked me to go with him on air force one. and i readily accepted. now i didn't believe in his social security package. in fact, at the venue, i made clear that i thought there were very serious problems with it. but i thought it's an obligation if the president asks you to go to your state, you go. and i think that's a smart thing to do because you can have an impact possibly. you might influence the outcome. and also, it's just good manners. >> and we saw senator heitkamp do that, travel on air force one to north dakota with president trump. president trump called her out at the rally. but no commitments, just like you and president bush on social security. when the bush tax cuts were done, the first round of the tax cut, they actually got three democratic votes in the senate on the first round of bush tax cuts. on the second round -- i'm sorry, the first round of bush tax cut, 12 democratic senate votes. the second round of bush tax cuts, three senate votes. getting democratic senators to vote for republican tax cuts is not something new. it is actually likely. >> yes, it is. but i would say this to you, lawrence. it's hard to know with president trump what he might do. it's entirely possible, like he just did with senator schumer, that he crosses over and makes an agreement with democrats. and i think democrats would be ready to agree to a tax bill if it didn't explode the debt, but it did reduce middle class taxes and went after some of these offshore tax havens and abusive tax shelters there is lots of room there. there is lots of revenue there that could be used to reduce middle class taxes. >> well, that would be if you followed the reagan model that was genuine tax reform where one of the principles was we will not increase the deficit. we will not add to the debt. so when we cut a tax rate, we must eliminate a tax loophole so that the revenue stays the same. and doing that, reagan got 33 democratic votes in the senate. >> absolutely he did. you know, lawrence, that's what makes your show good. you've actually got historic memory of what happened in prior agreements and what might happen in a new circumstance. >> joe manchin's line tonight, senator, leapt out at me when he said that part about, of course, he wouldn't support anything that exploded our debt. now, do you think this is a term of art there? does he mean you can't increase the debt at all? you can't increase the deficit at all? it has to be revenue neutral? and the other two senator, including senator heitkamp did not say that in their statements after the fact. they just issued generalities with no specifics. >> you know, senator heitkamp did make reference to not expanding the debt. it was unclear if that was a reference to the national debt or the debt of individual taxpayers. but she did reference the debt. you know, this is a day when the gross debt of the united states reached $20 trillion. we're going to run deficits this year of hundreds of billions of dollars. and if the budget plan outlined earlier is actually adopted with huge tax cuts and big increases in spending on defense and infrastructure, and of course now disaster aid, you could see an absolute explosion of the debt, which would be an incredible mistake at a time when economic times are good. you can understand expansions of deficit and debt when times are bad. we generally don't see expansions of deficit and debt when times are good. and these are extraordinarily good times historically. >> senator, what would you say to heidi heitkamp with your knowledge of the politics of north dakota and what she is facing in a possible republican tax cut bill coming her way, since you went through this yourself a couple of times? >> well, i would say to her, look, if it is a tax cut bill that is really aimed at the middle class, that's not a giveaway to the wealthiest among us, that really don't need any tax relief, and one that is -- covers the lost revenue by shutting down these abusive tax havens and these offshore tax shelters. by the way, if you ever want to do an interesting exercise, google offshore tax shelters. see what you get. it's really quite remarkable. i did it one time. i got a million hits on offshore tax shelters. it's really a whole world that many of us don't know exists. >> chairman -- former chairman of the senate budget committee, always a chairman to me, kent conrad, thank you very much for joining us tonight, senator. really appreciate it. >> you bet. good to be with you. >> we're joined now by senior editor at the new republic. also joining us is ken vogel, a reporter for "the new york times." ken, we saw these statements coming out of the dinner tonight where joe manchin very, very specific about debt. heidi heitkamp, as ken conrad pointed out a little unclear what she said it. nothing really from senator donnelly, just a general it was a very nice dinner. what do you make of this dinner tonight? >> there is no doubt that it's significant, lawrence. it doesn't take a whole lot of democratic support in the senate in particular to form a new coalition that could potentially pass legislation even as there may be republican holdouts, tax reform obviously is one, that republicans had been advocating for and that trump had been excited about for some time. but you see why a senator like heidi heitkamp or joe donnelly might be persuadable in a situation like this. trump, i think, that was the import, that was the significance really of the debt ceiling deal with pelosi and schumer was not necessarily the actual what was in the four corners of the deal, which now mitch mcconnell is suggesting wasn't as significant as perhaps trump and schumer and pelosi let on, but rather that trump was willing to reach across the aisle after not having a whole lot of luck working with just republicans to pass health care. >> and jit, there is a conceptual flaw we saw in the meeting tonight. and that is the democrats, if the notion that you could reach over across the aisle and make a deal with the democrats, the democrats cannot bring up a tax bill. they don't have any procedural rights in the senate to even bring up the bill. they cannot bring it through the senate finance committee. only orrin hatch can do that. they can't have a markup of the bill. not to mention the fact that the only parliamentary procedure in the united states constitution is that all tax legislation must begin in the house of representatives. and so there is no one from the real congressional tax world really sitting at that table tonight. >> that's exactly rite. and i think that gives sort of lie to this idea that there can be any sort of cooperation. i mean trump is facing a real problem in the sense that he should be getting his way on a lot of things. he has a unitary government. but the republicans can't deliver what he wants. so he is looking for other options. but i mean, like, i think that the hurdles are strong enough that it's not going to happen. >> ken, one of strategic problems is if you're donald trump and you're sitting there thinking hey, can i make a tax deal with democrats, the answer is you can, be you can't include virtually any of the elements that we've heard about from what the republicans are talking about. you can't cut the corporate rate as low as they want to cut it. you cannot eliminate the deductibility of state and local taxes, which would be a wipeout and a huge tax increase for taxpayers in california, new york, and other states. there is every single thing that we have heard about that is in the trump plan and the republicans' plan is something so far unacceptable to democrats. >> yeah, i mean, those three things that you just ticked off are anathema to democrats. that said, in north dakota where heidi heitkamp is going to be up for reelection, she is going to have to with trump voters. there are elements that could be made more palatable to her. i'm not suggesting it would be a deal with the democrats writ large and chuck schumer, but rather that it would be something, that they could find something that would be less objectionable to some of these democrats from red states that could potentially win their support, even as there may be republicans who would peel off. >> but jeet, it's hard to think of the bill in which you can reach around john mccain, around susan collins and pick up someone who is to the left. i mean these senators, as moderate or conservative as they are as democrats, they all are to the left of john mccain and susan collins, right? >> exactly right. >> so you're somehow going to reach people who are to the left of john mccain and susan collins. if you were doing that and holding on to john mccain and susan collins, you don't need these democrats, because they're talking about doing this in reconciliation. you don't need them. >> that's exactly right, yeah, yeah. the thing is if you can't hold the republicans together, how you bringing out democrats and making it different? i don't see how it adds up. it just -- i mean i think it's a move born of desperation more than anything else. >> there are two completely different approaches in tax legislation in washington. one is democrat. one is republican there is no such thing as an independent approach there is no middle there. trump is going to have to go one way or the other. and there is only one way procedurally where you can actually move the bill, and that's with the speaker of the house and the republicans in the house of representatives. >> if nothing else, it plants a seed of doubt in the minds of republican leaders, certainly, and maybe even democratic leaders. >> but ken, you can't plant the seed of doubt in paul ryan's mind who knows that it has to begin in the house ways and means committee and he has to approve the whole thing for to it move. he can't trick paul ryan into thinking he doesn't have the parliamentary control over this. we've got squeeze in a break here. je jeetheer thank you very much, for joining us. reports that asking him to restore russian diplomatic regulations immediately after the inauguration. why would they think something like that? 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>> that's correct. because irma hit us from the northern part, and we had a direct hit of the hurricane while it was a category 5, it went across st. john and touched the northern part of st. thomas directly before it carried on to the rest of the caribbean. so st. croix, which sits 40 miles south of st. thomas and st. john did not get the same amount of hit from hurricane irma. >> and talk about the two islands that did get hurt. st. john was hit as the hurricane moved, it was hit first. that's the smaller of the two islands. relatively small population. small commercial development there. st. thomas is the big one. that's only a few miles away. that's where most of the u.s. virgin islands population is. talk about the way both islands have been impacted. >> sure. you know, i was able to be on the ground for several days on st. thomas. coast guard were able to bring me in immediately after. and what you see on st. thomas is major damage to not only homes and to individuals and families, but also to much of our major infrastructure. we've lost our hospital, the roof of the hospital came off. windows were blown out, et cetera. government houses, our airport, the terminal looks as if the grenades were put inside, and they were blown up from the inside. also, the -- our air traffic control, schools, firehouses, et cetera, complete loss. also on st. john, which you're correct, has a small population, which took an enormous hit, much of our resorts are now gone from there. kaneel bay. we have trump bay where so many tourists come to st. john. but also the population there is even more isolated. you cannot get airport there's. so we've spent a lot of time with fema, the coast guard and others who have been extraordinary in working with our governor and with our local emergency management system to clear debris out of the ports so that we can begin the ability to get from the island of st. croix, which has now become the base camp for not only u.s. virgin islands but for other islands as well to get support back and forth. while the government is working with fema, with the department of defense, the navy has brought in three ships, and we have marines that are on the ground. there are also private businesses, ferries, guys with fast boats, men and women who are working to ensure that relief gets to people on the islands -- food, water you. hear the phrase "water, water, everywhere, not a drop to drink." so of course water is vital to us, being on an island, as well as the support services. we're going to have to be thinking long-term about the power, which is going to take an extraordinary amount of time to get up. our water and power authority have been working nonstop. we found out today that we had another loss of life. one of the linemen trying to restore power for vital services lost his life to working on the line this evening. and so we're continuing to experience losses, but we're also working and trying to be the resilient people that we are. >> congresswoman plaskett, there is so much to talk about. i just want to cover one more point before we go. the devastation we're seeing includes everything. obviously includes schools and the entire school system of the -- of those two islands. what are the -- and here we are at the beginning of a school year. what happens to kids in st. thomas, kids in st. john with the school year coming? what can you offer? >> well, you know, we faced this before during hurricane irma -- i'm sorry, hurricane hugo in 1989, hurricane marilyn in 1995. that's why many of our structures met code. and we're ready for a cat-4, but couldn't a category 5 impact hit. but the government made announcements about families bringing their families over to st. croix. also we have a huge virgin islands population that are in the united states in areas like houston and miami, new york, atlanta, washington, d.c., maryland, virginia area. and many individuals will be bringing their children up to the united states to do that. there are some schools which say hold on. we're going try and bring generation and bring power. st. croix will open up their homes. we're all one family for those students as well. and we're going to try and work on that. but threw is going to be needs. there is going to have to be transportation for these young people to get to those families that are in states, for families that are not able to afford the plane ticket. there is going to have to be temporary schools that are created, potentially on cruise ships and others that will allow young people to continue to learn. and there is also going to be for those students that move to the states, we live on a tropical island. so boots, hats, gloves, coats are another thing that we're going to have to think about when they're moving with those families there. >> congresswoman stacey plaskett, thank you very much for bringing us the human detail of what's happening there. really difficult situation. really appreciate your time. >> and lawrence, we're so grateful that you are opening up the news to us so that people can see us as americans and what we're going through. and remember us when we're looking about hurricane relief. thank you. >> thank you very much. coming up, reports about russians using facebook to organize an anti-immigration rally during the 2016 campaign. that now which we reported on last night has the attention of the senate intelligence committee. ♪ hey grandpa. hey, kid. really good to see you. you too. you tell grandma you were going fishing again? 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[hero] i'll take my chances. as we reported last night, according to the daily beast, russian operatives hiding behind false identities used facebook's event management tool to remotely organize and promote political protests in the u.s., including in august 2016 anti-immigrant, anti-muslim rally in idaho. a facebook spokesperson confirmed to the daily beast that it shut down several promoted events. here is what senate intelligence committee vice-chairman mark warner said about that daily beast report today. >> i'm disappointed that when facebook came and presented to the senate staff, they didn't lay out this incident. it's one of the reasons why i thought last week the facebook initial presentation was just the tip of the iceberg. we're seeing more evidence of additional ads and how they are used to manipulate individuals. i think they're one of the reasons why we need to bring in facebook, twitter and others. some level public hearing. >> also tonight, buzzfeed reports russia was actively pursuing a full reset of relations with the united states shortly after donald trump took office. according to documents obtained by buzzfeed, in the third month of donald trump's presidency, vladimir putin dispatched one of his diplomats to deliver a bold proposition. the full normalization of relations between the united states and russia across all major branchs of government. buzzfeed reports the proposal reveals one of moscow's unspoken assumptions that trump wouldn't share the lingering u.s. anger over moscow's alleged interference in the 2016 election, and might accept a lightning-fast rapprochement. joining us spencer ackerman. malcolm nance, msnbc counterterrorism intelligence analyst and author of "the plot to hack america." spencer, so the senate is now interested in your reports about facebook. what are they going to find? >> they're going to find that facebook went from hosting russian active measures online to essentially walaundering acte measures in right leaf. >> laundering you said? >> you might as well say that. facebook acknowledged to us that these events were not simply things that bots did, not simply things that false accounts put up, but things that they took money for. that's what this promoted event means. this was paid. whether facebook has, as senator warner said, been fully forthright with the senate intelligence committee and others, it's looking more and more doubt. certainly it's looking like they have vastly more questions than they've answered. >> and what is the venue you expect? do you expect a public hearing now is what you're getting, what you're hearing from senator warner? they will have whether it be mark zuckerberg or facebook official there's explaining exactly what they did? >> i think it's pretty clear that facebook, whatever form they've had the answer questions right now, the senate intelligence committee does not consider that sufficient, that it's -- i can't say that i know that a public hearing is going to happen, but it's looking more likely than not at this point. >> malcolm nance, let me get your reaction to both of these reports. first of all, what we're learning about facebook, and then the notion that vladimir putin believe head had the president he wanted and shortly after the inauguration, could have a full reset, drop all sanctions against russia, get things back to the old normal with the united states. >> well, let's take point number two. this has been vladimir putin's strategic objective by helping put donald trump into office all along. this is no secret to anyone who has been following the trump russia operation over the last year. the cia, fbi, nsa all said that, you know, the objective was to get donald trump into the presidency for the purpose of resetting russian relations and of course creating chaos and removing hillary clinton from the political scene. that's all happened. with regards to facebook, they're just another component of the russian active measures during this entire campaign. i mean, russia technically virtually marionetting american citizens. i've had that happen to myself on twitter where russian intelligence actually used a twitter feed to come out and tell american citizens that someone who was supposedly in denver, colorado, was going to assassinate me at a very high profile conference. that is a form of intelligence manipulation of american citizens. and it's the next step of operations, that it started last year is no surprise. >> spencer? >> yeah, to take a point that malcolm made really aptly. you'll remember that toward the end of the obama administration, james clapper, the former director of national intelligence, started to in public briefings on the hill talk about cybersecurity as a more elevated concern than terrorism. one of the points that he would frequently make was at some point the intelligence committee figured they were going to move from an exfiltration model, that is adversaries taking data from secured websites or from someone's servers and so forth, and they were to start moving into not just data exploitation, but data manipulation. >> right. >> that the data that you encounter online is not necessarily going to be true. what we are now seeing facebook talk about and what we're now seeing facebook yet to discuss, but our reporting as well as others are showing happened was that's basically the model going forward. from this active measure stuff. you saw these really disgusting anti-immigrant islamophobic rallies promoted through facebook. that's an effort to move even further from manipulated data, from false information disseminated widely online, to getting people in the united states who don't know who is really putting this information out there to actually do something. >> malcolm, quickly, before we get to a break here, when the obama administration came out and started publicly talking about interference with the camp -- what was then the campaign, what should facebook and some of these other companies have done? should they have listened to that and at least had meeting saying what do we think our role in this might be? >> well, certainly they should have done something much, much sooner than we've seen. because they took very active operations against isis and al qaeda and islamic jihadists almost without asking. but when it came to this manipulation of the virtual world, manipulation of social media to the point where they were changing reality for american citizens, i mean, they should have realized that their platform was no longer an information gathering or an information sharing platform, but had been weapon niced into a foreign intelligence and governments system to manipulate american systems. and it continues right to this minute. >> malcolm nance and spencer ackerman, thank you both for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> pleasure. coming up, lawyers are actually warning white house staff directly do not lie to investigators for the president. , heritage and innovation have made gillette the #1 shave in america. now get gillette quality at lower prices -- every day. brought to you by 1200 workers in boston -- we're proud of giving you our best. gillette. the best a man can get. my frii say not if you this protect yourself.ary. what is scary? 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would the president want donald trump jr. to lie for him? to risk perjury charges for him? steve bannon famously declared on "60 minutes" the other night that the ultimate test of loyalty was how members of the trump team reacted to the "access hollywood" video that came out in october of the campaign in which donald trump bragged about his favorite methods of sexual assault. and steve bannon was once again very, very wrong. the ultimate test of loyalty is now and always has been testifying under oath. anyone in the mafia could have told steve bannon that's when you find out who your real friends are. that's how you find out whose really loyal. this investigation might teach steve bannon and donald trump a lot of what they don't know about loyalty. more on the investigation next. mr. stevens? this is your new name. this is your new house. and a perfectly inconspicuous suv. you must become invisible. 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>> well, it's awfully good advice, lawrence. because lying to a federal agent whose conducting an investigation is enough to get you your own personal ticket to federal prison. none of these witnesses want to be converted from witnesses to subjects or targets of this investigation. their best way of maintaining their status as witness is to continue to tell investigators the truth, to produce documents, to not withhold material information, to answer questions honestly. prosecutors love to say that it's the cover-up that hangs people up. and that's true time and time again in these public corruption investigations. >> and ken, i think you and i know that there are a lot of politicians over the years who really you would have to say that to their staffs because their staffs love them, devoted to them, and were with them for many years and could feel like maybe it's not lying if they're just trying to shade the truth and the favor of the politician. but this white house is the leakiest white house we have ever seen. it almost seems like the trump staff does not need the warning to tell the truth about donald trump under oath because they seem to be telling the dark truths to "the new york times" and you guys and the "washington post" almost every day. >> yeah, that's right, lawrence. it's not just the leaking, it's also the infighting and there are concerns among the trump legal team that prosecutors and the special counsel will use these riffs and fissures between the staff that have been long been festering to essentially pit the staffers against each other and other trump associates against one another to use something they might get from someone staffer or one associate to leverage something more out of another associate. this, my sources tell me, has led to some dissent within trump's legal team object habou handle mithis. dissent about pace of document production. seeing the tensions play themselves out in a legal defense in a way that's extremely unhelpful for the president and his team. >> joyce, this point that ken made sounds hugely important, f for example, the special prosecutor by reading the pain e watching tv, knows steve bannon hates jared kushners is doing everything he can to hurt jared kushner. they are investigating jared kushner. does the special prosecutor's team go, shouldn't -- do they think we should be talking to steve bannon specifically about jared kushner? >> i would suspect that the special counsel's team will talk to everyone about everything and by that i mean they'll talk to all of the available witnesses to get their view of what happened. and then they'll see how those versions line up. and it will be the outlier versions, the details that don't match up. if nine people are in agreement and one person is saying something different, something that, perhaps, is more beneficial to the administration, those people become the littlest zebras, the witnesses that mueller will cull out of the herd because if they have exposure for corruption or perjury or false statements, themselves, it may be possible to flip them and have them testify as to what really happened here. >> and ken, there are reports indicating the really decisive conversations about firing james comey which may be the sing single-most important area of the investigation in the end occurred in new jersey on a weekend when steve bannon wasn't there. and that ivanka trump was there. steve miller was there. and that might be the spot where the special prosecutor really wants to penetrate, but in terms of jared kushner and ivanka trump, for example, you can't have a spouse testify against another spouse so that might be a tricky one. >> yeah, that's right. it does get to the key point that the former u.s. attorney raised which is that it becomes about obstruction, it becomes about the cover-up. obviously the firing of comey is the key piece of that cover-up, but even the discussions that led up to that firing are critical to establishing the case and to potentially establishing that someone has misrepresented what went on. that's the area that comey is really honing in on according to everyone who i've talked to about this. >> joyce vance, ken vogel, thank you both for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thanks, lawrence. >> thank you. tonight's "last word" is next and it is a "last word" about the most important new bill on the democratic side of the senate. to make something original... ...has grown into an enterprise. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. now, i'm earning unlimited 2% cash back on every purchase i make. everything. which adds up to thousands of dollars back every year... ...and helps keep my passion growing... ...in every direction. what's in your wallet? 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"the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. tonight, donald trump's russia problems as his campaign turns over documents to mueller. the legal strategy this evening for the white house and what trump's closest aides are being advised by their own lawyers. also, the dinner tonight at the white house. the president hosting six senators, three from each party, as the speculation begins about the deal he's trying to make. and we'll get a lat
together on the trump russia investigation. one of these reporters is famously the one who got the monica lieu inski story, the other one happens to have broken the news about the trump russia christopher steele dossier, he broke the 47% news during the mitt romney campaign in 2012 as a team, these two investigative reporters wrote the definitive book on what the u.s. government lied about in the leadup to the iraq war and how the u.s. government sold the country on the iraq war even though the premise for that war was false. they got an incredible track record of turning stuff up as a team and now, that same super power reporting team is going to get back together again despite the fact they write for different news outlets, they are getting back together again to write a book together again because right now they have got the trump russia story in their sights. so that was just announced today. that will end up being a big deal, i promise you. one of those reporters is here tonight. as the attorney general, jeff sessions comes under renewed pressure over his own denials that he had contacts with russian officials during the campaign. the president himself is also having some new trouble with one of his own statements denying a connection with russia. that statement now falling apart under new scrutiny. we got that story ahead including a visit with one of those investigative reporters and the daily beast here as that publication breaks the news about a new level of russian involvement. in last year's presidential campaign this is activity by the russians here inside the united states that we didn't know about before today. that report is coming up here tonight, as well. i want to start off tonight, though, with a report that aired tonight on "nbc nightly news." last night on the show you might remember we had the governor of the u.s. virgin islands here on the show talking about the devastation that the u.s. virgin islands are facing after hurricane irma, but tonight ron mott is there in the u.s. virgin islands. >> reporter: this afternoon in puerto rico, a coast guard loading up with supplies heading for some of the islands irma hit hardest. on board bringing everything they can to keep this relief effort going. there are tsa officers on board with a goal of getting the airport in st. thomas back up and running. virgin islands whipped with category five winds. >> for a place once completely green and lush, everything now looks dead and bleak. >> reporter: tonight, still largely cut off, no cell phones, limited fuel. >> long line right here. this is a gas station and everything. there are so many people. >> reporter: the devastation on the u.s. virgin islands of st. thomas and st. john almost unbelievable. >> you could not even see the street in some areas because it was covered in trees and roofs and just every kind of debris imaginable. >> reporter: from the air, stunning images emerging. pieces of hill on hillsides. boats piled up. >> this section of my mom's room, the roof came off. >> reporter: you can see it from space, st. martin before and after irma came blowing through. buildings flattened, cars crushed. tonight, the urgent need for relief aid is growing. residents struggling to get by. >> we need water and food. it not no maybe, it's for sure. >> reporter: others trying to get out. the kentucky national air guard evacuated more than 1,000 americans and royal caribbean is using cruise ships to puerto rico. left behind a tropical paradise desperately trying to pick up the pieces. >> important reporting from ron mott where the destruction is becoming a significant humanitarian concern now. the three major islands in the u.s. virgin islands are st. croix, st. thomas and st. john. st. croix as we heard from the governor last night appears to have weathered the storm well. st. thomas less well and st. john appears to have weathered it not well at all. eyewitnesss in st. john estimate that three out of every five homes on st. john had the roof ripped off by the storm. we're getting reports that none of the wooden homes on st. john are still standing, none of them. one nurse at the local hospital in st. john tells us that fellow residents have been donating their own personal supplies of diesel fuel to keep power running at the hospital. which is now running on generators on diesel power. this is day six since the storm wiped out this part of this american territory. it the responsibility of the u.s. government and u.s. virgin islands. there is news tonight the state department will be starting emergency evacuation flights out of the british virgin islands and st. martin as of tomorrow morning. but the situation in some of the u.s. virgin islands really does appear to be quite bad and there hasn't been that much news about it really. we've been talking to people in the u.s. virgin islands just on our staff all day today. we've been talking to people on the islands trying to get a beat on this story over and over again. people said they felt like they are being forgotten by the u.s. despite these dire conditions and despite the fact that these are the u.s. virgin islands. so we'll have a live report from st. thomas in just a second. i think to be honest, part of the reason the extremely bad conditions in the caribbean or broadly in the u.s. virgin islands, part of the reason they are not getting more attention is because there is a crowd looking for attention on these stories. just in florida, this effort to try to recover, department of if you look at electric power, we believe it to be the largest effort to restore electric power in u.s. history. hope land security says at peak 15 million americans had no power because of the storm. that number is slowly coming down as crews get to work but this is now at least a couple of days in for millions of americans not having power. you can get a sense of the challenges from satellite images showing florida before and after irma. now in pitch darkness until they can restore the power grid. florida power and light says electricity can be back for the east coast, the atlantic coast by this weekend but other parts may have to wait longer particularly in the keys. there is also concerned about the drinking water. in the keys. the florida keys authority says the transmission main that brings water to the islands appears to be in tact but in an abundance of caution they issued a boil water notice to anybody using tap water anywhere in the keys. there are notices in at least 23 other florida counties including broward county where residents are being told they can shower in unboiled water as long as they can be sure they won't get any water in the eyes or mouth while showering. again, 23 counties with boil water advisories right now. yesterday after the pentagon said that as many as 10,000 people might need to be evacuated out of the keys, a county official there pushed back and said no evacuation of that kind of scale is going to be necessary at all. but fema is is publicliest mating that one out of every four homeowners, one out of every four. homes in the keys have been destroyed they are saying of the remaining homes two thirds of them suffered what they are calling major damage. so the housing situation in the keys and livability situation on the keys right now is a serious matter. today local county officials started letting residents and business owners come back to the upper keys, the keys closest to the florida mainland but that news arrived with a warning. quote, returning residents should consider that there are limited, and in other words come down if you need in terms of the ability. in terms of sustaining life and travel here. now u.s. sent black hawk helicopters for rescue operations. the navy using infrared technology to spot anyone that may be stranded overnight. u.s. abraham lincoln aircraft carrier is stationed off the keys, one of the helpful things it can do in a circumstance like this is produce 100,000 gallons of fresh water a day that may end up being a big deal, depending how long this goes on. in the caribbean, the world food program of the united nations is sending 20 tons of high energy biscuits, enough to feed 17,000 people for three days. those emergency rationens are going to antiga and st. martin along with tarps and again raters and prefab indicated buildings and communications equipment. and as i mentioned at the top tonight, the u.s. state department has announced there will be evacuation flights for u.s. citizens leaving from st. martin and from the british virgin islands in the morning. state department says u.s. citizens who can get to st. martin and the airport to arrive no later than 8:30 a.m. local time at the airport and the british virgin islands at the airport, on tore tolla, the deadline for u.s. citizens to get to the airport tomorrow to get on a flight is 9:00 a.m. joining us from st. thomas in the u.s. virgin islands is suzanne carlson. she's a staff writer for the u.s. virgin islands "daily news." thanks for joining us. i know times are tough >> thanks for having me. >> where were you during the storm and how have you been over the last holding up? >> i was at the newspaper's office during the storm and rode it out with colleagues and it was absolutely terrifying. i never experienced anything like that before. it was extremely frightening to hear what sounded like a jet engine. for hours on end things flying around and the building was shaking and roof was shaking. -- buckling. the building survived and we came through just fine. >> it's been hard to get a lot of information out of -- a lot of different places in the caribbean and understandable why. obviously people are in survival mode in some cases and communications infrastructure is down and hard to reach people and talking to the u.s. news media and the american mainland but given that i think it been hard to piece together a sense of how dire the circumstances are, even just in the u.s. virgin islands there, can you just give us your assessment about how tough things are right now in st. john and particular and also in st. thomas? >> absolutely. i haven't been able to make it over to st. john myself but i've heard from people who were there and it sounds like the island is virtually wiped out. it sounds really devastating. st. thomas isn't fairing that much better. every single person here has been affected in someway. i have friends and co-workers that lost everything. their houses are gone. so there are some people who are doing better than others. some people their houses are fine. they are in good health but now the concern for everyone is keeping food and water and supplies stocked. gas has been a big issue. so it's going to be a long, hard road for a lot of people for months if not years. >> how are supplies of basic necessities? we talked to the governor who talked about a major effort to distribute for example bottled water but we hear people are having a hard time getting access to food and water and very basics. >> it's been incredibly difficult for a lot of people. part of the reason not much information is coming out is we can't get it out. literally. this is a first time i've been able to make a phone call and have any confidence it would last for more than a few seconds. internet is still down. no internet in the office and a lot of people on the island that were already struggling before the hurricane hit. and now they are being told, you know, they are finding themselves having suddenly to walk in search of food, water, gas, you know, a lot of people with children trying to get diapers and supplies. it is extraordinary dire for a lot of people here and there are many people suffering tremendously. >> suzanne carlson joining us on the phone from st. thomas and u.s. virgin islands. appreciate what you and your colleagues have been through trying to live through and cover this. please keep us apprised as best you can. we want to keep people informed as best we can. >> will do. thank you, rachel. we got lots ahead tonight. do stay with us. nick was born to move. 3 toddlers won't stop him. and neither will lower back pain. because at a dr. scholl's kiosk he got a recommendation for our custom fit orthotic to relieve his foot, knee, or lower back pain, from being on his feet. dr. scholl's. born to move. can make anyone slow downt and pull up a seat to the table. that's why she takes the time to season her turkey to perfection, and make stuffing from scratch. so that you can spend time on what really matters. marie callender's. it's time to savor. march 1st, was a tough day for the new administration. they had already lost their national security advisor mike flynn because of his contacts with russian officials that he lied about. and then barely two weeks after mike flynn got forced out as national security advisor in that scandal, barely two weeks later they almost lost their attorney general as well for almost the same thing. on march 1st new york magazine and "the washington post" reported despite his earlier denials he had any contact with russians during the campaign, newly minted attorney jeff sessions had in fact met more than once with the russian ambassador during the campaign. now, once those news stories broke, sessions responded initially on march 1st by continuing to deny it. continuing to deny he had any contact with russian officials. by the following day, by march 2nd, he was admitting to it. on march 2nd, that's the day he admitted he had contacts and announced he would recuse himself from any investigations involving any aspect of the presidential campaign including the russia stuff. now, reports at the time suggested that the president had not only told jeff sessions he shouldn't recuse himself, reports at the times suggested that the president went quote ballistic after jeff sessions made his announcement that he was going to recuse. now whether or not that's personally true of the president, i don't know. i'm not sure whether any of us should care but in terms of what the white house did, they did right after jeff sessions' recusal, they did sharply turn on the russia investigation right after sessions announced his recusal, right after that they tried for the first time to go on offense on the russia story, to try to make the russia scandal into something somebody else should have to answer for, not them. two days after jeff sessions recused himself was when the president sent that bizarre now famous tweet saying that president obama was a bad and/or sick guy. [ laughter ] >> because according to president trump, he just learned that obama wiretapped him at trump tower during the campaign. now looking back on that now, we can recognize that as the first of several efforts by the white house to try to make the russia investigation into somebody else's problem. they have since tried to make fired fbi director james comey into the villain and make the special counsel robert mueller into the villain in that story and tried to make former mi 6 officer christopher steel and fusion gps to collect the intel in the trump russia and try to make fusion gps into the villain and russian story. they tried it with a bunch of people. the very first time they tried this tactic of making somebody else the bad guy in the story, that was when trump blamed obama. trump said obama was the bad, sick villain for having wiretapped him at trump tower and there ought to be an investigation. the white house use that allegation at the time not only to try to divert blame and make somebody else the bad guy, they also used it to try to literally to try to stop talking about the trump russia scandal. shortly after trump made his allegation that president obama had wiretapped him, sean spicer announced to his white house spokesman that the white house would no longer speak about this issue. the white house would not longer comment about matters until there had been a proper invest -- investigation into the obama's behavior of this matter and wiretaps. at trump tower. spicer announced there would be no comment on russia related until the obama investigation was complete. that was nice stunt, right? a nice try. you know, they were not able to avoid ever talking about russia matters ever again despite that pronouncement they would hence force seize to speak about it. for what it's worth, that investigation into the obama administration wiretapping trump tower, that investigation technically is complete now. late at night on the friday before the labor day weekend, the department of justice and the fbi submitted a filing to a d.c. court admitting neither the fbi or national security division had any evidence to support president trump's allegation that he had been wiretapped by the previous administration. quote, both the fbi and the nsd, national security division of justice department confirm they have no records related to wiretaps as described by the march 4th, 2017 tweets by the president. late at night, on friday. before the labor day weekend. but still, they had to do it. that confirmation that president obama never ordered a wiretap that cop confirmation and president trump lied when he made that allegation, that confirmation was forced into the public record into that court filing by a freedom of information about demand filed by a group called american over sight. and you know what? tactically that was a smart use of foya. elegant as a matter of public accountability. here is the president saying that the u.s. government had been directed by his predecessor to wiretap trump's phones. if that allegation were true, reasonably speaking, there would be records of that order or at least there would be records of that order being carried out so it's an elegant part of reliability to request any such documentation of the order being issued or followed up on and boom. it's a direct way of figuring out if it happened. now we know it never happened. again, that revelation was forced into the open by this watchdog group american oversight. and now today, american oversight is doing it again. because when jeff sessions, the attorney general had to retract his previous denials and admit that yes, in fact, he had met with russian officials during the campaign, part of what that did is create a political problem for the white house with him having to take himself out of his attorney general role in terms of overseeing any russia investigations but also created a problem for jeff sessions himself. because one of the places he denied ever meeting during the campaign was when he was under oath during the confirmation hearings and also lied by omission in his sworn paperwork he submitted to apply for a security clearance. that application asked about your meeting with foreign officials. he did not declare any meetings with russians as part of the application. for security clearance how will he explain that? it took a few weeks after the recuse l thing happened but he had the justice department put out a statement giving him not exactly an alibi but at least an excuse for what he had done. in march he recused himself. in may, finally, you got the justice department to put out the statement claiming that the reason that he had left his meetings with the russians off his security clearance application is because quote, the fbi investigator handling the back ground check instructed him not to list meetings with foreign dignitaries and their staff connected to his senate activities the reason he didn't expose it on the application for security clearance is because he says the fbi told him not to. of course he would have. he would be happy to disclose those things even though he lied about it to newspapers. for weeks afterwards. he'd be happy the disclose it. the fbi told him not to. he was following fbi advice. that the his excuse/alibi. that is checkable and today, the same artists who forced the administration to admit trump's wiretap allegation was false, today, they are at it again. today they failed a lawsuit demanding jeff sessions prove his alibi. prove his excuse for lying on his security clearance application. people for the american way and oversight people today filed a lawsuit to force the justice department and fbi to back up that assertion, if they can. to disclose the instructions that the fbi gave to attorney general jeff sessions when he was applying for that security clearance. according to the groups that filed the suit, quote, if jeff sessions wants us to believe his excuse, he should prove it. these documents should be easy to produce and we look forward to receiving them promptly from the fbi. you know, benefit of the doubt, maybe the fbi did tell jeff sessions he didn't have to disclose his meetings with russians when he was applying for a security clearance. maybe they gave him that explicit instruction which is what he says happened. if so, the fbi ought to be able to prove that relatively easily and will turn out to be a strange piece of advice they gave him but at least, if that's true, sessions will get sured up in terms of his excuse why he filed that false paperwork. if it turns out the fbi didn't give that instruction and his excuse is false, what will the consequences of that be? some day i swear, we are going to run down all of the cover stories and excuses and denials that have come out of the trump administration and campaign over the last nine months just on the issue of their contacts with russians. some day we'll cancel all other news and spend the whole hour on the show listing all of the times various members of the administration and transition and campaign said something denying contacts with russians that was later proved to be untrue. it will take a full hour to get through the full list and we'll have to kill commercials but i mean, it a pretty astonishing list that includes the attorney general, jeff sessions and former national security advisor and paul manafort and mike pence jurd kushner and kellyanne conway and, and, and, and. to the extent there is a coordinated or uncoordinated effort by multiple people in the administration to cover up the extent of connections and dealings between trump and russia, there have been a lot of people in the administration and campaign who have participated in that activity. the most important person in any coverup would be the president himself and today david corn of mother jones magazine writes about a piece of the president's effort to cover up his own connections with russia, a piece of that is now being proven to be blatantly false and that story is next. for mom and dad. and every year, we split it equally. except for one of us. i write them a poem instead! and one for each of you too! that one's actually yours. that one. regardless, we're stuck with the bill. to many, words are the most valuable currency. last i checked, stores don't take "words." some do. not everyone can be the poetic voice of a generation. i know, right? 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>> i think this is the most important time. in december 2015, donald trump is the front runner for the republican presidential nomination that might be surprising to him as it was to a lot of political observers at the time. he's asked about felix sater and by the ap reporter, and said i don't know him. never heard of him. the same time as we now know but didn't know back then, felix sater was brokering a deal for him to build a trump tower in moscow. for 30 years, literally 30 years, donald trump tried to do business in moscow. many times he got close. but it never got over the finish line. he never got that trump tower in moscow built. here he was in the middle of a deal to give him $4 million up front into his own pocket, dealing with russia. what did he need to make the deal happen? the permission of the russian government. who is the head of the russian government? vladimir putin. who is donald trump saying oddly positive things about throughout the campaign? vladimir putin. so to acknowledge felix sater in december 2015, would in essence be acknowledging he was in the middle of this deal when he was running for president, when he was telling the american public he would put america first, american interests over everything else when actually he was in no position to criticize vladimir putin because he and his organization were asking putin for help to build the project. this is in someways the most massive conflict of interest that we've ever seen in a modern presidential campaign and i think this is why, this is one of the most consequential deceptions of the trump campaign. imagine what would have happened in december of 2015. he said oh, yeah, i know felix sater. he's brokering a deal for me this very moment with russia and i knead vladimir putin on my side to make it happen. what do you think would happen to donald trump's presidential prospects right then and there? he had to deny knowing satyr, he had to deny the deal. he kept the deal he hit this deal from the american public. >> david, i feel like i'm starting to feel like there is is this mountain of not just trump russia connections and trump russia deals and trump russia financial connections but this mountain of documented false denials and it includes this one from the president but it also includes, you know, jeff sessions saying he didn't have russia contacts. he did. paul man fort saying he didn't have russia contacts. he did. flynn saying he didn't have contacts, don junior, jared kushner. whether they said it out loud or they put it in sworn statements and applications for security clearances. over and over and over again the same thing going in the same direction. what does that add up to in the end? lying isn't a crime but consis -- consistently covering up these connections, so many people doing it even after they get caught, where does that go in the end? >> even today they say over and over again, there was no collusion. when we have the june 9th meeting with donald trump junior and jared kushner. with emissaries from russia. they claim they didn't get any negative opposition research on hillary clinton out of the deal but they certainly tried. that is colluding by definition and say there was no collusion. my concern is that we have a lot of pieces, you know, but we look at this as a mosaic and often lose the big picture. because we look at one piece at a time. not you. you do a good job of pulling it together but media overall rush from one new tidbit or lie found out to the next one and you got to -- if you sit back and look at what he did in terms of not telling the public about dealing with russia, what they have done about colluding when they have colluded and, throughout the campaign, donald trump kept saying that the russians had nothing to do with it. his own campaign advisers knew they were told that russia wanted to help. that's a big importance of the june 9th meeting. you put that stuff together. it's not smoke. it's fire. this is a cover-up, they've been stone walling again and again. donald trump was trying to do business with russia and then six months later, russia trying to help the trump campaign. it not very complicated. but i think in our current sort of one party rule in congress and the white house, they -- the political conversation conversation doesn't dig into the big pictures. and their implications. i think it's pretty flight ning at this point >> will you sit there for one other second? 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what? they're amazing listeners. guidance from professionals who take their time to get to know you. four years ago we did a documentary, maybe the most watched msnbc documentary ever. it was based on a book about how we got into the iraq war despite the false premises that war was based on and i think our documentary was good but the book was based on was freaking brilliant. and now today i read in the new york times that michael and david are getting the band back together. this time to write a book on the trump russia scandal. david corn, when were you going to tell me? [ laughter ] >> i had to read about this in the new york times? >> i've been working on this for a long time with michael. we would rather do the work than talk about the work. >> can you tell us at all what the book is going to focus on? is it a historical book? is it a book about current reporting? >> a bit of both. we're looking at everything leading up to the russian hack, the history of russian intelligence operations, history of u.s. russia relations and what happened with the hack and how the parties and the campaigns and the white house responded to it and what was going on behind the scenes in the intelligence community at the time. >> david corn, mother jones d.c. burro chief announcing today he and michael are back together for a new book. thank you for being here. >> thank you so much. much more ahead, stay with us. trust #1 doctor recommended dulcolax. use dulcolax tablets for gentle dependable relief. suppositories for relief in minutes. and dulcoease for comfortable relief of hard stools. dulcolax. designed for dependable relief. ♪ it's not just a car, it's your daily treat. ♪ go ahead, spoil yourself. the es and es hybrid. experience amazing. over the course of 9 days sthe walks 26.2 miles,. that's a marathon. because he chooses to walk whenever he can. and he does it with support from dr. scholl's. only dr. scholl's has massaging gel insoles that provide all-day comfort to keep him feeling more energized. so he even has the energy to take the long way home. keep it up, steve! dr. scholl's. born to move. gloria always went big. so we helped her plan a memorial service that no one would soon forget. ♪ this one's for you, gloria. ♪ only a dignity memorial professional can celebrate a life like no other. find out how at sanfranciscodignity.com. today the daily beast got a fascinating new exclusive report. they dug this thing up out of information that other people could have dug into and found. but they were the ones who did it. and it turns out to be scary and worrying in terms of what we're going to find out next. this is their story. russia used facebook events to organize anti-immigrant rallies on u.s. soil. now we've been covering here the fact that facebook only recently admitted that russians used fake ads, or used ad money to try to influence americans during last year's election. what's new from the daily beast today is that russia used facebook to basically try to remote control organize real-life protests in the united states, including one in twin falls, idaho. quoting from the piece, russian operatives hiding behind false identities used facebook's event management tool to remotely organize and promote political protests in the u.s., including an august 2016 anti-immigrant, anti-muslim rally in idaho. daily beast uncovered this facebook events posting promoting that rally in twin falls, idaho. it was called citizens before refugees. it was due the happen on august 27th. citizens before refugees. you can see there. that event was schedule for one day after breitbart news published a discredited story about a spike in tuberculosis cases being blamed on immigrants and refugees in that locality. that event was hosted by a facebook group called secured borders. it's since been outed as a russian op, not as an american organization at all. it's been taken down describing it as a putative anti-u.s. immigration community that was outed as a russian front in march. at the time facebook took it down, though, it had over 130,000 u.s. followers. so russia was not just spamming us online with fake news and russian propaganda and promoting stolen documents they hacked from party democratic sources, they were also using american social media platforms like facebook to try to get americans go demonstrate against muslims and immigrants in real life in real american communities. joining us now is noah schactman, editor of the daily beast. thanks for being here. >> my pleasure. >> at within level this is an incremental story about another thing that facebook was used for. on the other hand, i find this to be very chilling. >> me too. >> the idea that the russians weren't just promoting stuff in terms of what we looked at online, but trying to get americans to do stuff in real life. >> no it's amazing. this is a real turn here. this isn't just fake news. this isn't just online propaganda. this is real world organizing. and i have a feeling this just the tip of the iceberg. facebook told our reporters late last night that they talked about multiple, multiple events. so i think we're going to start to see and more and of the stuff come out. >> and multiple events associated with this secured borders front group? or multiple events associated with lots of different groups? >> they were super coy about that. >> okay. so this is what is making me crazy. facebook spent months denying there was any russia involvement in their platform related to the election whatsoever. not only were they denying that they could be used as a platform for fake information, whatever. i understand that i have a business reason to deny that but denying there was any presence of russian money or russian operatives in their campaign, denying it for months, they now admit it. now they're willing to admit to you that yeah, there was maybe this event. but they still won't disclose anything in terms of what other russian operations might have been organized through their platform. >> there is either two options. one, thaw don't know themselves yet, which is super weird for one of the internet's most powerful companies that has the most powerful facial recognition database in the world and has the most sophisticated algorithms for outing all kinds of objectional content. either they still don't know or know and aren't telling. both of those alternatives are not great. >> if they know hand they're not telling, it raises interesting questions about whether or not they're going to be available as a potential crime scene for investigators to look at for the russia investigation writ large, whether it's the mueller inquiry or any of the congressional investigations. if some of the russian crimes committed in the election or any american confederates helping them happened via facebook will, facebook allow investigators to follow the clues where they lead? >> my strong suspicion is they will. and thing is also another interesting turn here, right. the first part of the russia scandal involves secret information, involved hacked information in the dnc, right? now the interesting part is part two, and maybe the more interesting part actually took place kind of in public on facebook and decoding what happened in public may tell us more about the turnout of the election than some hacked e-mails from dnc operatives. >> and when you look at what we know about the public information and what your reporters were able to discover in terms of tracing these things on facebook, what's your understanding about whether or not this could have been a purely foreign operation, or whether or not this was something where there was domestic component in terms of operators here working in cahoots with russian operatives who were working from st. petersburg or wherever to make this happen? >> i don't think we know yet. i don't think we know what's tail and what's dog yet. like i don't think we know when these seemingly loony tunes anti-immigrant, anti-muslim protesters are ginning stuff up, are they taking direction from moscow? is moscow kind of piggybacking off of what they do? i don't think that relationship is clear at all yet. >> and do you -- is it your sense that that's a figure outable thing? it's one thing to not know now. it's another thing to know whether or not this sort of activity leaves breadcrumbs that anybody is going to follow? >> yes, this should be the online propaganda. a mixed metaphor. >> well, you helped to advance the story in a way that makes me feel super creepy, but also better informed. noah schactman, editor for the daily beast. appreciate it. all right. we'll be right back. stay with us. you don't let anything lkeep you sidelined. come on! that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein, and 26 vitamins and minerals... for the strength and energy, to get back to doing what you love. ensure, always be you. it can seem like triggers pop up everywhere. luckily there's powerful, 24-hour, non-drowsy claritin. it provides relief of symptoms that can be triggered by over 200 different allergens. live claritin clear. senator mark warner is the top democrat on the intelligence committee. this is what he had to say the day after facebook finally confirmed that, yeah, there had been russian ad buys trying to affect the election. >> it was my belief that the russians were using those sites to intervene in our elections. and, you know, the first reaction from facebook of course oh, you're crazy, nothing is going on. well, we find yesterday there actually was something going on. i think all we saw yesterday in terms of their brief was the tip of the iceberg. >> tip of the iceberg. that was senator warner talking on thursday last week about facebook finally admitting that russian money had made its way on to facebook to buy ads to try to influence americans to try to influence the election. today with that reporting we just discussed with noah schactman, we got a little more of what is in the iceberg when the daily beast reported that not only was russia trying to change what news americans saw, what americans heard about in terms of the election via information operations, they were also literally trying to organize americans to go to anti-muslim, anti-immigrant, anti-refugee rallies, because apparently russia saw it in their interest that we would start having rallies like that in places like idaho. the story of what the russians did in this last election, using everyday tools like your mom's facebook feed, it is getting to be a truly big deal in the trump russia investigation. and it's getting to be a very interesting question as to whether or not facebook and twitter and these other social media gigantic companies are going to cooperate with the investigation and help investigators figure out how they were used. today the democratic and republican leaders of the senate intelligence committee said they are considering a public hearing with facebook in particular, but also other social media companies. they say they want to ask about the role of russian money and russian ads and russian bots in russia trying to tip the election towards donald trump. mark warner said about this today, quote, i question whether facebook has put near the amount of resources they need to getting us all the facts. that would be interesting to see on capitol hill. facebook testifying if they ever choose to do it. meanwhile, happy to say right here senator mark warner will be with us here on this show tomorrow night. i have a lot to ask him about. also, little reminder. we've got hillary clinton here in studio on thursday night for one of the first interviews that she is doing about her big new book. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word >> good evening. as usual, he will have to watch your show tomorrow night with senator warner so i can figure out how to handle this hour of television. because you will be breaking news. >> i'll send you notes as he says stuff that makes news. >> well, he will be watching. thanks, rachel. >>
on a busy bike path on halloween day as kids were pouring out of a neighborhood elementary school on the lower west side of manhattan, right in the shadow of the new world trade center. >> investigators are questioning the man behind a deadly terror attack in lower manhattan. an attack he apparently committed in the name of isis. >> we got multiple casualties, mass casualty situation here. >> pushing kids back in the school. looking for my son, to make sure he's not out. i didn't see him and just pushed the kids back in and ran up the block. >> i saw guns in each one of his hands and he started raising his hands up so i turned around and i said guns and all of the kids were there officer ryan nash opening fire on the suspect and ending his rampage. >> what happened yesterday is it not okay area never something we'll accept as inevitable. >> he appears to have followed almost exactly to a t the instructions isis put out. >> trump would consider treating saipov as an enemy combatant. before that he was angrily blaming democrats fosh t s for attack. >> we're being stopped by democrats because they are obstructionists and don't want to do what's right for our country. we need strength and we need resolve. we have to stop it. so we're going to get rid of this lottery program. >> president trump singled out chuck shum evechumer on twitter claims gave us the gift of that diversity visa lottery program, a program saipov used to enter the u.s. andrew cuomo fired back with this. >> the president ought to stop tweeting and start leading. the american people long for leadership, not divisiveness, not finger pointing, not name calling. this is a tragedy. it's less than a day than after it occurred and he can't refrain from his nasty divisive habits. >> his tweet wasn't even accurate as far as i'm concerned. that was a bipartisan law that was passed. you play into the hands of the terrorists to the extent you disrupt and divide and frighten people in this society. >> we expect to hear directly from the white house at a 3:00 p.m. briefing by sarah huckabee sanders. >> social media giants are getting grilled on capitol hill. facebook and twitter and google are set to testify before the house intelligence committee to reveal more about russia's online disinformation campaign. let's start with new york city, justice correspondent pete williams joins us from our washington bureau. pete, getting into saipov and what exactly he is telling authorities, we're hearing he's bragging from his hospital bed, not showing any remorse about the attack that left eight people dead. >> that's our understanding, that when authorities went into the hospital room last night after he had been treated for the gunshot wound to the abdomen, they started asking him questions and he wasn't -- he wasn't responsive. he did talk to them, didn't answer their questions but they said seemed unrepentant about the attack, bragging about as one official described it smug about it. >> pete, self-radicalization, what's the word on that for saipov? >> that seems to be what happened here. there's no indication we're told of any contact with terrorists overseas. doesn't seem to have been a directed attack from overseas but rather inspired attack. we know as you reported earlier that there was a note found at the scene near the truck that said isis will live forever, words to that effect written in arabic. and they know he had been consuming isis propaganda, looking at isis propaganda online and started doing so they say recently. but i don't know exactly what that means the official i talked to about this wasn't sure when it actually started but we've talked to neighbors who say they believe that as much as two years ago he was showing an interest in this terror kind of propaganda. so what the big question here is was there a turning point in his life that caused him to become interested in this. we don't know what that is. the authorities don't know what that is. but corps larry to all of this, he appears to have acted on his own. there's nothing to indicate so far that anyone helped him or encouraged him or aware of this. and of course the cost of this would be very low. we think that he could have carried out this attack for $62.50. the $50 deposit -- >> pete, a moment ago you heard the president saying he would consider sending saipov to gitmo, we're hearing some lawmakers say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. as far as we know he hasn't been read his miranda rights. how long does the government have before they need to make a decision one way or the other? >> the two separate issues here, they don't have to read the miranda rights courts have held in similar cases to be able to question someone and still use the evidence under what's called the public safety exception, judge court made law that says if you're trying to find out if there's a danger to the community and was anybody else involved, should they be worried about somebody else doing something similar, they wouldn't have to give the miranda warning. eventually they will. it's not clear -- the longer you go the riskier it gets legally. but in terms of sending him to guantanamo bay, i can tell you that there's no serious consideration being given to that. the justice department and the new york authorities have talked about this. apparently they've agreed it's going to be a federal case. charges could be filed as early as today but probably tomorrow. but the real question whether there would be even legal authority to send him to gitmo but that doesn't seem it's going to happen. >> this might be out of your purview, why would the president throw that out there? >> he said before that perhaps terrorists should not be treated in the civilian courts. this is something that has been back and forth between republican and democratic administrations. but the fact that he's in the united states now regardless of whether he's a citizen, the fact he's here would make it much more complicated to send him to gitmo number one. and number two, not to get too technical for a moment but he would have to be declared an enemy combatant under the original congressional authorization for use of force after 9/11, which is all about al qaeda, not isis. you could argue that isis is an offchute of al qaeda but there's no obvious immediate answer to that. >> pete williams in our washington bureau, thank you very much. nbc's craig melvin, as you just saw if you were watching last hour live on the scene in tribeca where police are just beginning to piece together this investigation. craig, the cop who shot this gunman deliberately did so and apparently did so by shooting him in the stomach so that he would survive this in order for investigators to be able to question him. so what more are new york officials saying about what they are learning and where the investigation stands right now? >> reporter: all right let's talk about the cop we put on the screen there. he's being widely hail as a hero, his name is ryan nash, 29 years old. we heard from some of his superiors in the news conference a few hours ago, that he and his partner were out on patrol yesterday at the nearby high school and got a call. they responded and did what police officers are trained to do. they react d quickly and sprang into action and shot the suspect in the abdomen. most have said had it not been for those actions, the death toll certainly would have been higher. as for the investigation, we also started to learn a little bit more about the time line during that news conference a few hours ago as well. officials surmising at this point that roughly 2:06 yesterday, the suspect rented that truck that pete mentioned from home depot in new jersey. after that he got off the george washington bridge into manhattan. it took him about 37 minutes with traffic. and then 3:04, he enters the bike lane not far from where i'm standing right now at the west and houston streets and going according to eyewitnesses, perhaps 70 miles per hour, four minutes after he started, 911 calls started coming in from folks who were on the scene here who were taken aback by what they were seeing and hearing. so all of it went down fairly quickly, katy. >> craig melvin, thanks very much. president trump wasted no time seizing on the attack and laying some of the blame squarely at the feet of democrat and senate minority leader chuck schumer but two republicans aren't having any of it. >> i don't know that that brought out the best in our country. >> is it too soon to go after mr. schumer? zbro i don't think that's bringing out the best of our country but everybody has their ways i would guess. >> what would you have liked to see the president do instead of the tweet against schumer? >> shoot, express some solidarity with those trying to fix this program -- fix the situation. we should shouldn't look for blame one day after like this. >> hallie jackson joins me now. the president is talking about a diversity visa, and he's trying to say that the diversity visa is because of chuck schumer. fact check, contextualize it for it. >> reporter: it's a way for people to come into this country from places that don't have high immigration rates in the first place. we have a full screen to pull the stats up on this. this started in 1989 from senator kennedy. chuck schumer was in the house and did support this but it was signed into law by a republican president, george h.w. bush at the time. then in fact a couple of years ago when the gang of eight immigration bill was getting kicked around, it would have eliminated or dismantled this diversity visa lottery problem. and who was part of the gang of eight was of course chuck schumer and jeff flake the person you just showed pointed out online today. this is what the program does. it is our reporting here at nbc news that saipov came into the united states under that lottery program and got allowed into the country because of that. now, i've been to administration sources -- concerted effort to kill this thing, republicans do not like it. they have not liked it. and in fact getting rid of this was one of the president's immigration policy priorities that he rolled out last month when he was talking about what he wanted congress to do on immigration and shift to the merit based immigration system. a couple of hours ago the president went to the cabinet meeting and this came up. listen. >> i'm today starting the process of terminating the diversity lottery program. i'm going to ask congress to immediately initiate -- and diversity lottery, diversity lottery, sounds nice. it's not nice. it's not good. >> mr. president, do you want the assailant from new york sent to gitmo? >> i'll certainly consider that. >> reporter: i would note one other piece of this. the president says he's starting the process of terminating this program. he can't do that unilaterally, he would have to work with republicans over on the hill and that is what i expect sarah sanders to be asked about 45 minutes from now. >> the reaction the president had immediately following this attack was a lot different than the reaction he had after the las vegas shooting and this has followed something of a pattern of his reactions, the way he reacts to certain events and certain people behind certain events and the way he reacts to others. >> so i think it's -- you're probably referring to this question of tone and policy, right. you look what the president tweeted out after the national tragedy, las vegas mass shooting. warmest condolences and sympathies and talking about what happened in vegas. in this instance he sent thoughts and prayers to those affected by this, as did his white house. that is on poly. immediately after the las vegas mass shooting we sat in the briefing room, repeatedly asking the white house, asking our sources what the president planned to do from a policy perspective about bump stocks. that was the biggest legislative issue that had come up after the biggest shooting. repeatedly the white house said -- and president himself out on the south lawn leaving for events this is too early to talk about it, now is the time to grieve and mourning, not the time to talk about policy. in this instance, he's in the cabinet room talking specifically about policy. immigration, wanting those changes and i asked sarah sanders the day after the vegas shooting why the president after orlando remembered during campaign talked about his travel ban and talked about policies immediately after that shooting but after vegas said it was too soon. she said there's a difference between being a candidate and being a president. notably now, donald trump is sitting in the cabinet room as president talking about this. >> hallie jackson, thank you very much. we should point out the president has yet to call the two senators, both of whom are democrats from new york and as of 11:00 a.m. this morning the governor of new york, governor cuomo also a democrat has not heard from the president. we'll update you if that changes. turning now to clint watts with the joint terrorism task force and senior fellow with the foreign policy research institute and msnbc national security analyst and bill gavin for the fbi's new york bureau. thanks very much for joining us. bill, we know saipov left a note in the truck that said isis lives forever. how do authorities get to the bottom of whether he's linked to the terror group or inpired by it and does it even matter? >> i don't know -- it does matter because when you look at how he got to the present set of circumstances he finds himself in today, it matters how he got there. i think that probably they will arrive at that conclusion when they finally peel down all of the information that's on that computer when the contact the number of people who they know they have to contact both here and abroad. i think they'll probably figure it out. it appears that probably his radicalization came while he was in the united states. he's been here -- been here for a while. but that's yet to be determined fully. it's very important to get to the bottom of why he wrote this and how he learned the arabic to write what he did. all of these things are very important at this particular point in time sfwl if fs re. >> if he was radicalized here in the u.s., what does that say to you? how do you approach this differently if that is the case? >> the first thing you're looking for, connections that trace back or that joint the fight. you have to look to the internet and social media in particular to see how he encountered this ideology. one thing clear over the past two to three years. you look at the is ma'lamic sta two areas where they gained a lot of recruits, directly related to self-radicalization and internet radicalization. number one was europe and other was central asia. kyrgyzstan, these locations had a significant uptick in foreign fighter recruits to isis and i think around the world those communities have been much more drawn to the islamic state. we're starting to see that upstick, one of many we've seen in united states. >> use beck stan is not on the president's terror list, does that strikes you as interesting. >> his travel ban list is essentially just made up sort of ad hoc. if we really want to look where the most number of foreign fighter extremists have come from, saudi arabia would be tops of the chart generation after generation. in the most recent data that has come out, a lot of these countries would show up. >> bill, when you hear about this and turn your television on and watch various leaders come out, officials both from law enforcement and officials from capitol hill or from local or state governments, what do you think the ideal reaction is in order to not only keep people calm but to make it so that others in that community, others who might be considering an attack of their own or considering self-radicalization, to mitigate their hostility, is there something that our leaders can do? >> i think the leader has to be a positive strong individual who understands how to talk to people, not talk at people. and to ensure that everybody involved, that the citizens of the city of new york feel the compassion that they have for all of those loved ones and then at the same time, he's got to understand the individual who is speaking for our government must understand that his words are important. you can't immediately say this guy was a crack pot or -- you don't do things like that. what you do is try to let these people know that in the future and right now, we're working on identifying you, the next would be before you get a chance to do what you want to do. >> real quickly, why don't you do that? why don't you do that? >> don't do -- >> say this guy is a crack pot and immediately insult him. why is that problematic according to you? >> well, i think it's problematic from a prosecutor standpoint. you know, if somebody decides not a mental capacity, they can't try them because he wasn't of sound mind when somebody says the highest voice in the nation declared him that way, that's not a good thing to do. >> bill gavin, thank you very much and clint watts, you as well. you'll be back later i'm told. for the second day, lawmakers are grilling social media executives about their role websites played in russian efforts to interfered if last year's election. executives are testifying before the house intelligence committee. we saw bill boards of the some of the messages, some of the fake news that went out to millions of social media users. >> approximately $2100 at today's exchange rate, exhibit 3 is a ad entitled south united. and received approximately 511,000 ad impressions and 40,000 ad clicks. this ad cost approximately 78,000 rubles or $1300 in today's exchange rate. exhibit 4 is titled back the bang. created on october 19th, 2016 and 1.3 million ad impressions, this cost approximately 111,000 rubles or $1900 at today 'exchange rate. finally exhibit five, woke, created on december 1st and received 752,000 ad impressions, 34,000 ad clicks and cost approximately $56,000 rubls or $1,000. i said the united's -- to be admitted in the record. all three have a responsible to ensure the content -- >> bottom line, those ads are cheap even though they can't keep the bill boards on the stands there in capitol hill. kara swisher joins you now, technology and business website, recode. thank you for joining us. >> no problem. >> these are -- they are not necessarily going after a certain political candidate but they are trying to do something pretty insidious. >> yeah, absolutely. you saw the range of things, one was looks like a black lives matter kind of thing and other is a confederate flag, they are going after division and trying to create divisiveness and taking advantage of the anger that exists and am my fiing it and using social media -- weaponizing social media to do so. it's pretty basic but at the same time totally insidious. >> how do they look at these things and say, we're not going to allow this stuff to happen? >> they already did let it happen. that's what they are getting grilled on capitol hill. the only thing republican and democrats seem to agree on the social media sites failed. there's a lot of grandstanding and big speeches from both sides and both come at it in different ways. now they have gotten dragged into a political fight. these hearings today were much more political depending on which side you were on. they are getting -- saying they failed, la la land, why did you do this? their being told they'll be regulated if you they want do something about it. it's not a good day for them but the fact of the matter is, this stuff went on on their platforms that they were responsible for. they are not benign platforms and they -- what kamala harris says, with great power comes great responsibility. >> look at the people starting to look at social media companies for first time ever, it's now being seen as something that can cause more problems and wide scale, not just maybe your personal life going through -- who knows what you do on social media, wide scale more so than anybody could have conceived when these first started. ultimately is it going to be a negative pressure from the public that forces them to change or is it outrage from lawmakers? >> well, it's media -- and being generated in these hearings, that are always sort of a circus, you know that. the question is what influence do they have on other society and some ways it's great. other times they've already discussed issues like bullying, privacy, having too much information about you, following you and now here it is did they really impact the elections and what impact did they have? are these -- should these platforms be better monitored because foreign countries are using to impact us. it's not just here, it's global. facebook and twilter and google have global footprints so i think they'll get attention from all over the world. that's a real mess to deal with. >> recode executive editor, kara swisher. >> next, the russia blame game. wait until you hear who the president is reportedly pointing the finger at for the long list of dramas dogging his white house. stay with us and we're monitoring this hearing as well. we'll be right back. by listening to an thiaudiobook on audible.ame and this guy is just trying to get through the day. this guy feels like he can take on anything. this guy isn't sure he can take it anymore. unwavering self-confidence. stuck in a 4-door sedan of sadness. upgrade your commute. ride with audible. dial star star audible on your smartphone to start listening today. 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>> so i'm always a little skeptical of claims of jared's demise. i'm not saying it couldn't happen. we know that sort of no one in this white house is not expendable at the certain point. the president is not known for his loyalty, although if there is one group of people he's known to be loyal to, it's his family and jared by marrying in very much counts as family. i think you are right, there are a number of people those who you named who do want jared out. i think it's probably not helpful for jared generally if you have anybody whispering in the president's ear what bad advice jared is giving you. he was just in saudi arabia and still helping out the middle east. my understanding is he's keeping a low profile internally, much lower than when he first started but by my reporting still doing substantive things. >> nobody is safe but let's remember he is the husband of donald trump's daughter so you -- take that for what you will. that being said, these new indictments, robert mueller's investigation and news of george papadopoul papadopoulos, does it seem that it's actually striking a new nerve at the white house making people a little more nervous about what there is to come in the future and realistic prospect of being impeached? >> i think the answer to that is yes and no. you have to remember this is an administration that has been dealing with the cloud of russia almost since day one. so someone put it to me, it's never a good day for the white house when a special prosecutor comes down with indictments. i don't think anyone would argue that's a positive. that said there was some sense of relief and keep in mind this is all a relative scale, but there was some sense of relief at least to start these indictments with george papadopoulos, someone as the white house has repeatedly said publicly, a volunteer not a paid adviser with rick gates and paul manafort that the indictment is focused on the behavior well before the campaign. there's in re -- some relief it wasn't someone like michael flynn, but the real open question in the white house, is this wrapping up quickly as ty cobb has told people -- >> sarah huckabee sanders claims on a daily basis, since day one. >> soor is this the first shoe drop. they really don't know. >> ken, i have a bunch of questions to ask you, the next one that could come under the microscope, mueller's team has a date to talk with her soon. >> she is 28 years old and had to go out and hire a lawyer and now going to be grilled presumably about her role in the air force one statement, that he drafted on behalf of his son about the trump tower meeting that robert mueller is now investigating as part of his inquiry as to whether the president obstructed justice. i have a different take, i think monday was a devastating day for this white house. i think the scope and detail in thiz manafort and gates indictments were surprising even to those who followed this case intimately. it's what lawyers call a paper case, a case that could be proven with the documents and paul manafort is facing 15 years in prison. to the extent he knows something incriminating, that's a scary prospect and papadopoulos plea shows once again they were offered dirt on hillary clinton and now we know mueller is investigating up the chain to figure out how far that offer went in the campaign. >> let's remind ourselves that she's one of his longest serving if not the longest serving adviser at this point. she's very close to not only donald trump who she's been working for since day one of this campaign, but previously worked for ivanka, a very small group of people within this orbit, privy to donald trump ace every whim. she hears what they are talking about. she of -- anybody sthey might b talking to might know more than anyone else due to her proximity and trust the president has in her. donald trump's pick to be the head scientist at the -- >> agriculture -- >> thank you very much for reminding me. >> he's also somebody who is a part of the campaign early on and what we're led to believe that he was the one who brought papadopoulos on to this campaign. sources within the campaign from 2016 told me that he was in charge of the list that donald trump had, the foreign policy adviser's list that he revealed to the "washington post" late last spring. so is that what mueller is questioning sam clove us about. you reported yesterday that he has been questioned but so far they are note revealing -- not saying what he said. >> that's right. our understanding is that mueller was interested in understanding clovis' interactions with george papadopoulos whom he supervised. so he is the unnamed supervisor in the documents we saw and told by papadopoulos about the overtures from russians. and his story according to az lawyer, he did not approve any -- for example a trip that papadopoulos was proposing to go to moscow and talk off the record with russians but that is kribl contradicted in an e-mail where he says take the trip if it's feasib feasible. >> ken dilanian, i had so much more to talk about but the social media hearing is heating up. adam schiff is talking right now. let's listen. >> content that is either fear based oran anger based that hel it pick up an audience and go viral. manipulation but also just in terms of the agree to which these algorithms designed to attract our attention and keep our eyes focused on platform for advertising purposes may also have the unintended consequence of widening divisions among our society, polarizing people because what ends up perk latding the top of our feeds tends to be things we were looking for and kamt tour attention to a greater degree. my question is what corporate obligation societal obligation do you think your companies have? both of these issues, foreign manipulation of platforms but more broadly the fact thatt algorithms designed to attract our attention may have the unintended but real consequence of pitting american against american in a way that the russians so capably manipulated. so if you could each address that question and the second question is, do you have the historic data such that you would be able to analyze the trump campaign advertising and its campaign's organic content with that produced by the russian social media farms and analyze whether in its targeting or audience, there was any sophistication in that overlap. >> i'll start, we obviously take both of these issues very seriously. you'll hear throughout our conversation today that our focus while we do look at content and have rules that talk about content when it turns violent and behavior and twitter turns violent. we have the greatest successes in protecting our users and platform when we look at behavior and the information we see behind twitter accounts. we talk about things like ought mated malicious accounts. what we've seen especially in this investigation is that these malicious actors need -- they need ears and eyes and need to be able to reach an audience. the way they get that without growing organically to use ought matted activity on platform. over the last year we've improved by almost 2x, our ability to challenge accounts, 4 million every week to determine if they are real. we take down and block 450,000 suspicious log-ins every day. we're making a concerted effort to stop this type of activity and give a voice to the people trying to abuse our system. as to the ira and russian based troll farms we've been able to identify to date, we have that information and can share it with your staff. >> mr. stretch and mr. walker. >> gentlemen, being respectful to the other members of the committee, i ask you be brief in your responses, please. >> i will be brief. yes, we do have an obligation to prevent foreign interference in the election and take that obligation seriously. there are nor details in my written testimony as to how we're attempting to discharge that. with respect to theal go rhythm question, our goal is to provide the most relevant information to users and primarily driven by friends and family. that's the core use case of facebook, we want you to come to facebook and see information that's important to you, typically that's the information that's important to your friends and family. and now in a political election season, often times what's important to you friends and family are challenging provocative social issues and you will see that. our responsibility is to make sure when you see that content, it's authentic so you can trust the dialogue that's occurring on the platform. >> adam schiff trying to get answers out of facebook and google and twitter representatives today about how certain content gets on to their platforms, content that is not generated organically by american citizens but content that is generated in order to provoke and generated in a massive way by a foreign government to provoke and to see discord within -- i don't know, a democracy maybe here at home going through an election. here with us to talk about this is clint watts. when you hear these facebook executives and google executives, twitter executives trying to make sense of their response do you have trust they are doing everything they can? ach all, it took them so long to get to this point. i'm remembering mark zuckerberg saying there's no way this influenced the election. >> we don't know how many saw the stuff. facebook has the best understanding of it of all of them at this point because the russians actually made a mistake when they were doing this. they paid for advertisements and that tipped somebody off. you have a financial transaction and twitter has no idea who's on their platform. >> you don't have to pay for anything. >> when you say -- there's a lot to talk about in -- i shouldn't be able to use rubles to buy facebook ads surrounding an american election. does it have to be -- who's to say they need to use russian currency to do that? >> i mean, i'm surprised they made that mistake. they could have used dollars and they would have been fine. >> how do you flag it? is there a way for social media companies to stop this from happening or did they create a monster that is out of their control? >> there are some things they can do. one, they don't really pair a threat intelligence with technical intelligence. they always think their automation and artificial intelligence will detect all of this. it zbt matter if it's isis or russians, somebody uses it in a bad way. you have to have people that think like terrorists and understand what the russians would try to do to know how to detect them. >> sara fryer, technology reporter joins us from clilg alongside michael mcfall, u.s. ambassador to russia and russian affairs contributor. these companies are trying to justify their platforms and efforts they'll be making in the future. is this all enough in order to get things ready to go for the next large scale election happening in 2018? >> i think the point underscored not just in this hearing but in the previous two we've seen the senate, the companies don't currently have the technology to stop this from happening. in order to get there, they'll have to do a lot of work and work together and they may not ever get to the technical capability to fully ensure this doesn't happen. i mean, it's one of those things that is going to have as you guys were mentioning, people who just continue to find ways to go around their system. once they stop these actors, using the ways that they infiltrated the last election. the next ones will come up with a different way. >> mcfall or ambassador, michael mcfal. when you hear this, does this make you think that russia is going to get scared away by america trying to take this seriously, having hearings, or are they only em boldened by what is considered by some a lackluster response to the efforts to manipulate this election? >> you know, my theory about mr. putin, president putin, he'll try any means necessary to achief his objectives unless he meets resistance. this is a good thing that we're having these hearings. 12 months ago, none of the companies, i know all really well, even admitted that thiz platforms were being used. that is progress. number two, it's not just the companies who have to take this on. i think the government has to take this on. we have to have laws and regulations monitoring and i would say banning the purchase of political ads by foreign governments. >> yeah. >> we have a law that says you cannot contribute to a candidate if you're a foreigner, let alone foreign government. why not have that here? that creates the incentives for these companies to do it, to take their hands, it has to be a partnership, not just one or the other. >> they are not all political ads, that's the thing, these are meant to sow division and black lives matter and ads meant to sew racial tension and blue lives matter ads, these are not definitively political ads. and i didn't mean to denigrate the hearings, i hope you don't take it that way. my point was we're having hearings now but still have an administration and president who is not -- doesn't seem to take this seriously whatsoever and wants to write it off because it undercuts what he believes is his authority as the commander in chief. >> exactly. it's worse than that. we are now talking about the prescriptions and hearings are talking about the prescriptions. he's not even accepting the diagnostics. let's be clear about that. he's still talks about the russian fake scandal. so i'm not optimistic it's going to happen in the next cycle and therefore there will be behavior like this and there will be copycat behavior like this from other foreign actors. and from other people inside our country that want to use these same mechanisms to xaser balt tensions and influence tensions in ways that are not in interest of our democracy. >> don't laugh at me, you can treat the systems but if you don't affect the cause it's like trying to heal a gunshot wound with gauze. i don't have jake sherman here, but i hope you get that. guys, thank you very much. we'll be right back. david. what's going on? 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>> thank you, katy. this is a tragic event. eight human beings lost their lives and many others were severely injured. whether this is madrid or paris, no matter where it happened, it's a shock in a civilly free world we're trying to have promulgated around the world and promote. to have this happen, it's a shot at us. >> so what can we do? when you look around and listen to your republican counterparts, listen to go the president today, he's talking about diversity of lottery programs. he's trying to blame chuck schumer. >> he's diverting the attention away from -- unfortunately, this tragic event, we don't even know the names of the victims. we haven't been able to digest what happened in new york and the president is casting blame on president-elect chuck schumer. the nypd does a great and fantastic job of responding, and here this officer nash took down this perpetrator. i think what was also interesting, he wasn't killed. he's being interrogated, we can learn about the isis way of operating. so the nypd force does a great deal of trying to stop events like this from happening. we hear about this happening almost on a daily basis. so i really want to give it up to the nypd and law enforcement around our nation. they do a fantastic job and that's what the president should be focusing on, focusing on congratulating those departments. >> as part of their comprehensive immigration reform, the president went after gang of 8, went after marco rubio for his involvement in it during the campaign. do you see this bringing forth something like that again, or is it going to be a vastly different version where republicans try to force through merit-based immigration rather than this lottery system? >> it doesn't seem to be any closer getting to a topic of immigration reform. it's almost no argument at this point because there is no gang of 8 doing anything at this point, and there's absolutely nothing happening near the house when it comes to comprehensive reform. in fact, the house never took up a bill. that was a one-house bill. if it was taken up with the house, it would have been a different version. we would have come back and compromised at some point. in some respects, it's not even a debate worth having at this point. i think what the president needs to focus on is uniting the united states and not dividing us. not trying to cast aspersion or blame but bring the american people together. that's what george bush did after 9/11. i was with president bush in new york. i was a part of that. i felt very much a part as americans, not as democrats or republicans and trying to cast aspersion or blame. let's get together and try to face the nation in an ever-changing world in which we live in. >> he went after congressman schumer, but schumer fought right back. schumer said, don't look at me, look at what you did and what you have been doing to affect counterterrorism efforts. budget cuts that affect counterterrorism in new york city. that is throwing it back and making it somewhat political on his part, but on the whole, though, do you share that concern, that budget cuts are a problem with fighting terrorism in our major cities? >> well, i think the shrinking violet is something that will never describe chuck schumer, nor should it ever. he's vociferous and he'll fight back when he's punched. >> that's what they say about donald trump, isn't it? >> they do, but sometimes the president needs to stand up and be presidential and not act like a child. what's tragic about this event is we have this tragedy and the president makes it more tragic by his response. >> what about the budget cuts for counterterrorism? >> we're told about a tax cut for the wealthy in this country that will cut the budgets of every state. the president has also threatened to withhold an urban area initiative which was created after 9/11 to thwart the type of events that happened yesterday in new york. he wants to cut new york's funding because it's a so-called sanctuary city. the reality is law enforcement understands what they need to have is an open-minded communication with all new yorkers and citizens and folks who live in our city. and to threaten to withdraw that money because new york is a sanctuary city is actually counter to it and it helps criminal activity and it helps terrorists. >> congressman crowley, thank you very much for being here today. >> thank you. one more thing before we go. the city that never sleeps has also proved once again that it is the city that never backs down. yesterday's terrorist attack was the worst in new york since 9/11, but it was not enough to shake the spirits of those who call this concrete jungle home. just hours after the attack, droves of new yorkers turned out to celebrate the 44th annual halloween parade in the village. and this weekend, the annual new york city marathon will go on as planned. it is that refusal to cow down to fear and that devotion to democracy that officials reminded the country and the world about a little bit earlier today. >> you've seen it all around the world, and it is to create mayhem and terrorize. and it failed. we will not be deterred. we are not terrorized. you will not win. we said that in 1993 after the world trade center bombing the first time. we said that after 9/11. and we said that yesterday. i was proud to be the governor of the state of new york last night. i'm proud every day, but seeing new yorkers' response made me feel especially proud. >> my message to all new yorkers is do what you do best, be new yorkers. be strong, be proud, be resilient. show the whole world right now that we will not be moved by terror. >> be strong, be proud, be resilient but also remember those who lost their lives last night. eight people died yesterday when sayfullo saipov drove his c car onto a bike path on west side highway. two people were celebrating their anniversary. and a sixth victim was from belgium. that does it for me. ali picks it up from here. ali? >> thank you, katy. we have more on the worst terrorist attack in new york city since 9/11. at any moment we're going to hear from press secretary sarah huckabee sanders after president trump's blistering comments on not only ending the visa program that got the terrorist into the united states but also talking about sending him to guantanamo bay. representatives from the biggest social platform in the united states are talking about the u.s. and cyber warfare. let's begin with president trump immediately coming out swinging after this terror attack, even suggesting the suspect may end up in guantanamo bay. >> we have to get much tougher. we have to get much smarter, and we have to get much less politically correct. >>
♪ of the brave ♪ [cheers and applause] rob: players send ago message of unity during the national anthem linking arms together. heather: there was not much linking of arms by the fans in the stand. >> we all should stand for the flag. this is america. >> i kneel for the lord and i stand for the flag. >> he's back. house majority whip steve scalise returning to capitol hill and both parties overjoyed. >> when i was laying out on that ball field, i just started to pray that at that point it was in god's hands. i'm a living example that miracles really do happen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ steve: i like to watch that scene right there because can you tell who is going to be on the show, geraldo is going to be here and tommy lahren is going to be here. welcome aboard. abby: it's friday. i mean i'm here all weekend but everyone else has made it to the end of the week. brian: we will not put that in front of you all day that we're off saturday and sunday for now. but i will say this, this is one of those weeks i think you guys would agree it has been on hyper speed. steve: they all are. brian: feels like yesterday was monday. it just has felon flown by. abby: so much happens every minute of the day. constantly changing every time we wake up and sit on the couch. steve: sure. abby: there is new developments to the stories we have been talking about. steve: absolutely. the big story we talked about this week started last friday in the down luther strange rally people who got to stand for the national anthem as you know last sonsd on good star mother's sunday, 200 players took a to me. as it turns out the polls since then feel as president trump does people should stand for the national anthem. all eyes on the packers bears game last night who would happen at lambeau field. abby: it was a powerful moment, brian. brian: i want you to hear pregame. we knew that aaron rogers quarterback and you see him all over the television. commercials. do what he was supposed to do as a quarterback, be a leader. i want you to stand and lock arms. they didn't. and we will stand and lock arms, they did. ♪ the bombs bursting in air ♪ gave proof through the night ♪ that our flag was still there ♪ o say does that star spangled ♪ banner yet wave [cheers] ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ [cheers] > ♪ and the home of the brave ♪ [cheers and applause] steve: that is progress. nobody on the field actually took a knee, which is great. keep in mind, aaron rogers was asking the packers team to lock arms and everybody in the stadium for social justice. that's what that was all about. as it turns out people in the crowd, a few of them did. and the camera guys were desperately trying to find people. as you can see most people had their hands over their heart. a lot of people sang along. i don't think that many people took part in the packers protest. abby: some of them shown saluting the flag. chanting u.s.a., u.s.a. i mean, regardless of whether you have your hand over your heart or locked arms with your neighbor. this is a moment we needed to have this week. it was a moment of coming together. kudos to rogers for putting this together. he said we are all patriotic in the locker room. we love our troops. this is about something bigger. this is about all of us coming together in unity. steve: it was about social justifiable he said. brian: a couple things. i think if both teams kneeled, i bet you there would have been a mass exodus from the game. i'm telling you. steve: those fans own the team. they are stockholders. brian: along with greta van susteren we should note. yesterday there was a meeting in new york city. select players and owners. 25 players and owners said we have a huge problem here. i said we had 48 hours on tuesday for them to answer this question. what do you want the league to do and what's the role with the players? being if you told the players to all stand, that would have been a problem because they would have said wait a second you are not going to tell me what to do might have made things worse. yesterday, a lineman, as well as joseph the head coach of the bronchos made it clear their players despite what happened last week when some took a knee and the whole team stayed in the locker room their players will be standing this weekend. >> i promise you one thing this week we will all be standing out there for the national anthem. trust me. we respect the flag and military and everything that is a part of it? >> we started with good intentions. it's been so negative. how can you make true change with this toxic environment. that was the conversation. so let's get back to playing football. let's get back to standing for the theme and then moving forward we can probably make change. abby: that's such a good point. we aren't even talking about social justice. we haven't been talking about that for the past week. we have been talking about how disrespectful it is to kneel during the national anthem. that was the bronchos. this weekend also the steelers and the patriots are going to play. there are reports that they will all be standing during the national anthem. we have to wait and see what happens. brian: patriots as well. danny said that two days ago. i didn't see a formal statement. steve: the nfl is starting to panic as well they should. america wants people to stand according to the polls during the national anthem. nfl ticket sales are down 18% since this started. stub hub is advertising 10% discounts on nfl tickets. direct tv is giving refunds on their sunday tickets so there are a lot of people who are seeing the writing on the wall. that's why i have three teams already come out and said we are going to stand for the pledge. however, tennessee titan football player by the name of delaney walker tells fans yesterday to stay home if you don't like the protest. bye, he said. brian: single most damaging statement through this whole thing that's the statement. unbelievable. abby: actions speak a lot louder than words at that moment. brian: oblivious fact major league is also professional. they need part-time jobs because they don't have the fan support. the reason why they get paid so much in the nfl is the fans and interest this league has earned over the last 60-plus years. here is rush. rush limbaugh has an interesting theory on this. we know he used to work over at espn for a while. he loves football. listen. >> i do believe that the left wants to cause great damage to the nfl. what does the nfl stand for? masculinity. strength, toughness. so what are they doing to it? you go to college campuses now and you will find classes on how to take masculinity out of men. it's actually happening. there are studies and courses in college to do. this it's patriotic. you have got the flag. have you got the anthem. have you uniformed military personnel. all the things that the left wants to erase from this country. they don't like displays of patriotism, strength, rugged individualism. and that's why the players are being used here. i don't want the nfl to get smaller. i don't want it to become insignificant. i don't want it to be taken over by a bunch of wusses. i don't want it to be taken over by left wing social justice causes. use something besides the nfl sideline. use something besides the flag. use something besides something that people use to escape everything left. steve: there have you rush limbaugh talking to sean hannity down at palm beach yesterday where he said the left is using the players. rush also said what does the nfl stand for these days? he gave a definition on social media a lot of people are putting out the people nfl now stands for no fans left if this continues. abby: there was a really powerful moment yesterday. we were all on this couch by the way when steve schees was shot. only two and a half months ago. steve: right. abby: two and a half months later what he has been through recovering. he then went to washington yesterday. walked out, i think we have this individual joe really powerful moment. is he normally in a wheelchair but decided to walk out on the floor there of the house with his hand braces. and he said this experience that i have been through, what has changed me the most is my relationship with god. steve: those are the images that we were showing just. abby: two and a half months ago. steve: it seems shorter, it seems longer than that and there he is yesterday. he comes in with the assistance of it looks like a walker. if you missed what he said yesterday, it was -- there were three minutes of a standing ovation. everybody in that chamber was standing. both sides of the aisle. you never see that in washington, d.c. he spoke eloquently for about 20 minutes. this was one of the hiatal. >> it's only strengthened my faith in god. and it's really crystallized what shows up as the goodness in people. steve: he also went on to say he is living proof that miracles can happen. brian: the guy next to him who saved his life iraqi war vet. able to stop the bleeding and wrap it up. we will talk to jillian mele who also has been following what else is going on in the world. jillian: i thought it was touching yesterday when he called the capitol police officers who were angels there with him. abby: they were. jillian: powerful moment we were watching yesterday for sure. let's get you caught up on the headlines. two police officers are shot by enraged customer at bmw dealership. the man pulling a gun on the officers when they confronted him in a parking lot outside of cleveland, ohio. one cop shot in the stomach. the other was shot in the leg. now, they are both in stable condition. the suspect was also shot and is recovering in the hospital. witnesses say he was unhappy that his car wasn't done on time. an official motive is still unknown. the pentagon tapping a three star general to lead the hurricane relief efforts in puerto rico. general jeffrey buchanon will oversee the military response as they work to improve a distribution on aid dn the island. 7200 military members on the ground in puerto rico. power, water, and gas still remain in short supply. twitter finding and shutting down nearly 200 accounts linked to russia. social media sight revealing the information to congress as they investigate russia's influence on the 2016 election. mark warner says twitter is not doing enough. >> their response was frankly inadequate on almost every level. jillian: twitter, facebook, and google have been asked to testify in public by the house and senate intelligence committees. that's a look at your headlines on this friday, guys. remind you it's friday. abby: and it's national coffee day if you go to dunkin' donuts and bay medium coffebuycoffee you free m coffee. brian: jon huntsman day. be. abby: he got confirmed. no one better for that job. steve: can you skype him. abby: that's true. technology works. steve: we have a fox news alert. top al qaeda leader still alive. voice possibly resur fafersing in an audio message. what message is he sending to followers? 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here to decode it is former cia station chief who served in iraq, iraq and pakistan daniel, what do you read from this? very much alive or are you hedging. >> all indications are that he is alive. it's a proof of life. he purposely used references to current events like north korea and syria to refute the allegation that russia had killed him in that air strike in raqqa back in may. brian: what do you look for him to do next that he lost his territory but he has an audience and that's a sunni audience because think a is beginning to run rampant through that region. >> even know he knows a femoral. he wants to libya. he knows cyberspace allows him to-to-do that. brian: you had him locked up in iraq and he was let go. >> i was actually in iraq that year when he was in camp bucca, yes. brian: must kill you to know he is out? >> well, it is certainly causing us great angst. obviously he is making a big impact. he will carry on making an impact just like anwar al-awlaki does even with his sermons even in death. brian: he hides and everyone dies. talk about your other topic op-ed. you call it you a thorn tarren internet. china and russia. seeing unmasking of what their role was in our social media, facebook and twitter. what's going on here? >> russia and china simultaneously very nefarious users of the internet targeting us can w. covert. in china they are stealing technology as well. they are trying to mount cyber sovereignty in their own borders. first is to limit its ability -- limit our ability of free expression in our country. but, also, to make populist inside china and russia believe that they shouldn't have confidence in using these social media sites. that's really what causes them concern. brian: we come up with sh med and they are using it against us. they go into the nuances. they knew how to foment social strife in baltimore to make others -- they are in our society and they know our hot buttons. >> they do. that is the responsibility of russian intelligence officers to penetrate our society as much as they can and understand what makes us particular. tick. hot button issues and how to exploit them. brian: you are one of the few in america not surprised by the revelations over last few days? >> no, i'm absolutely not surprised and wouldn't be surprised if in this case that the russians purposely left discoverable clues that we -- so that we would have less confidence in social media sites that they are somehow connected to russia. brian: so interesting. that's why we are able to find out ultimately hot buyer was. >> absolutely. brian brian fascinating to be able to tap into your years of experience inside the cia. thank you so much. >> thank you. brian: arizona police officer is going viral putting what he calls pampe pampered millionaires in their place. that officer joins us next from arizona. >> listen, you play a game. you suit up, you lose, you go home. in the real world, real heroes, when they lose games, they don't come back. or activity in one place and save, where would you go? 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>> well, because i'm passionate about this country. i'm passionate about the flag. i go out every dayened a protect the citizens. and i'm willing to die for the citizens of this country. when i see people disrespecting the flag, disrespecting the anthem, it makes me very upset. and i believe it's unacceptable. abby: you are a police officer in arizona. you're an african-american man. you talk about that flag. what does it mean to you? >> it means everything to me. it's sacrifice. this is an example of our forefathers. even african-american people who have fought so that we can have opportunities in this country to be free, to play sports. to do things like that. this is a spit in their face to not honor the flag and represent it in a positive light. steve: sure, now brandon last night at the packers bears games. the packers asked the fans to link arms together as a sign of social justice and unity. it looks like 90% of the crowd didn't follow that instead they had their hand over their heart and sang along. what do you think of the fact they are still protesting but they're not kneeling? >> it's a cop out. you either go all in or just get rid of it all together. i think the american people are wise enough to know that the true unity is when you put your hand over your heart and you stand up for the flag and you respect this country. abby: absolutely. you are an athlete yourself. you wanted to be in the nfl, right? you say you stopped watching football. this is all too much for you. what can be done. what can change to bring you back? >> i think if i see the players and the coaches and the commissioner actually stand up for what's right and say okay, we have made our point. now let's go out and let's respect this country. let's respect the flag and remove politic from athletics and all i want to see is i want to see players go out and play and have a good time and enjoy the game. i don't want to see politics mixed in with athletics. abby: you and so many others. steve: let's go over to the nba for a moment. rookie for the 76ers by the name of ben simmons yesterday. i believe he was in australia. he said about the president. i think he is an idiot. if we were in australia right now, a lot of people would call him an inappropriate word and that's how i personally feel. he just brings more arrange angr and hatred to the u.s. it's unneeded. you would probably admit, brandon, that the protests on this past sunday when 200 players took a knee, a lot of them were in reaction to the president of the united states. and the comments he had made earlier in alabama regarding nfl players who took a knee. but, to you, it's not about the president. it is always about the flag. right? >> right. right. i mean, i don't think the president is being divisive. the think the fact that you take a knee on a flag, you are starting division right there. and i think the president is trying to bring things back around in full circle and say okay, we need to realize what unity means and we need to stand for the flag and not divide ourselves by disrespecting america to push an agenda. abby: quickly, you are a police officer as i said. your colleagues, your other police officers, what have they said about your video? i'm sure you guys talk about this behind closed doors. >> oh, yeah. behind closed doors, open forum. we talk about it. i think people support what i say and they're excited. we are like a big family. so, when i am able to talk on tv, i think it's a victory for all of us. we get a chance to express kind of how we feel. but it's been 98% positive. i haven't had a police officer say anything negatively to me about it. i mean, just the way it is. i think we are all on the same page. steve: all right. brandon tatum an arizona police officer today joining us live from tucson. sir, thank you for your service and have a great weekend. abby: what a video that was. >> you guys do the same. thank you for having me. steve: by the way we should point out brian has been moving some of the furniture in the studio. we apologize. brian, do you need help? abby: he cannot sit still every. steve: brian, please, come on. abby: this time harvard getting education secretary betsy devos with silent protest with a sign calling her a white supremacist. steve: plus, while the players send their political message, fans have one of their own. >> i've been through two wars. i've seen a lot. lost a lot of friends. and that flag is actually something. we all should stand for the flag. this is america. steve: our own todd piro hit the tailgaters outside of lambeau field last night and he is going to join us to talk about the. abby: that is not todd. of that is wisconsin congressman sean duffy who is going to weigh in on what happened in his home state last night with the packers. can't wait to get his take on this. back after this ♪ a piece of the promise land ♪ i'm burning my candle at both ends ♪ your big idea... will people know it means they'll get the lowest price guaranteed on our rooms by booking direct on choicehotels.com? hey! badda book. badda boom! mr. badda book. badda boom! book now at choicehotels.com ♪ ♪ ♪ o say does that star spangled ♪ banner yet wave ♪ [cheers] ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ [cheers] ♪ and the home of the brave ♪ [cheers and applause] brian: packers and bears fans get together on one thing and so do the players they all stood for the national anthem. steve: they didn't link arms. the team wanted them to link arms for social justice and unity. brian: by the way packers won 35-14. abby: talk about that today. steve: while that was going on inside. todd piro was tailgating. he was at a sports bar in green basement joins us with a reaction to the anthem. >> you can see behind me lambeau field one of the most iconic football fields in the country. green bay packers and chicago bears renewed their storied rivalry. outside we got a chance to speak with fans about what really has become the national conversation. check this out. >> as a veteran, when people kneel for the national anthem, what do you think? >> i have been through two wars. i have seen a lot. lost a lot of friends. that flag is actually something. to see that, that's a terrible thing, man. todd: when people kneel, what goes through your head? >> stand up. >> ashamed. ashamed of our country. >> we also should stand for the flag. this is america. >> i don't want to tell you what i feel. i think it's absolutely the most terrible thing i have seen for my country. >> i kneel for the lord and i stand for the flag. >> why are you wearing that button. >> you stand for the flag and stand for the national anthem. >> do you agree with the president when he tells team owners if they have players on their team that refuse to stand for the national anthem that they should be fired. >> i don't think that is the president's decision. >> as an owner of the packers myself, i think that when i saw kendrick and all the other ones kneeling, that really disappointed me. >> i bought season tickets to watch these players play football, not lock arms. >> if your team knelt entirely, would you give up your season tickets? >> oh, yeah, absolutely. >> do that some other time. the national anthem is sacred to us. the flag is sacred to us. you want to protest, don't do it on your boss' time. don't do it on my time. >> i have been through too much. seen too much. i'm a disabled vet, actually. i took three shots for this country. i still stand for the flag. >> i'm in the military, my brother is in the military. i have friends wrapped in the flag. my family wrapped in the flag. i feel like if you are going to protest, that isn't the right time to do it. todd: after interviewing fans outside lambeau for kneeling for the national national anthem. we are here to see the response as the anthem is played. ♪ home of the brave. [cheers and applause] >> so as you saw game one of week four, a little bit different than what we saw in games during week three. however, emotions among the fans still pretty raw. back to you guys. brian: great job. progressive watch games and in the stadium. steve: what a job this is we sent him to the bar. 90 miles west where he was sitting right there is the district of sean duffy who is a congressman from wisconsin. what do you make of what the packers, players were asking the fans to do which was link arms for social justice? >> my take was they wanted us to link arms in the stands in support of them on the field linking arms which is in support of those kneeling. right? they were kneeling for the flag and support those kneeling for the national anthem and against our flag. what you saw last night in wisconsin, that doesn't play well to. see all of those packers. steve: 95% of the fans were not doing it. >> hands over the hearts veterans saluting. makes me want to cry. you know what? the packers can get us to come out in 10-degree below weather and watch a football game outside. but they can't us to disrespect our flag. brian: i think both teams realize that. the bronchos saying. this pittsburgh steelers stood in the locker room. we are going to be on the sideline. the word is patriots going to be on the sideline. do you think we could be on the other side of this issue now by monday morning. >> i hope. so i love football. i want to turn my tv back on. i love this stuff. brian: you shut it off. >> i shut it off. i didn't watch last night. listen, i can't support these guys when they are not supporting our flag. our military. all the great things our flag represents. all the things our veterans have fought for. it represents the civil rights movement. it represents women's right to vote. the flag represents all those great things our country has to offer the greatest nation on earth. steve: last sunday 200 players took part in the knee. president trump said doing just that in the nfl. during the anthem is not the time to protest any politician. >> absolutely. there are all kinds of platforms that these guys especially have to protest but during the national anthem is not the right time. you know what? i went to the first packer game in the preseason. these are blue collar -- the wife had given the husband for christmas last year their one ticket to this game and to save up and want to go. these people love their country. they fly the flag in front of their yard and they love their football. those two things crash together force them to pick over football and the flag. i love that we picked the flag. brian: i want to say on behalf of the players, a lot of them -- almost 90% of them unbelievable success stories. overcoming incredible odds to do somethin something .001% n get on the nfl roster. >> fair to say these players they don't want to be in this position. they were forced in to say could i kneel, stabbed, olympic arms to support my players? they are in a bad place. abby: stood there and put his hand over his heart. you are right at the position many of them don't want to be in. there was that moment of unity on the field last night but also where you work in washington. there was this incredibly powerful moment of unity where steve scalise came back to work almost three months ago when he was shot practicing on that baseball field for the congressional game. what was that moment like? you were there. >> it's a pretty cool moment when there is a lot of division in america and in the congress and to see both sides stand up fists in the air. abby: how often does that happen. >> not very often at all. it's a rare occasion. everyone welcoming back to the house floor. steve: including nancy pelosi. >> nancy giving a welcome. we stand together. this is an assault on freedom and liberty when he was shot. we all stand together as a congress when one of us are taken out. when he mentioned the fact that world leaders were calling him wishing him well it was an attack on america. it wasn't just a man. steve: another symbol like the flag. >> well played. that was great. brian: real quick on tax reform there is a lot in the republican calculation upset when it comes to deductions and state and local tax. >> that's in new york. brian: and chicago, too. >> and california. brian: where do you stand? if 10 men's you are all together where are you now and 1 means you are apart. >> members of congress in new york, illinois and california don't like this. let's be clear and when you are lower income person and standard deduction goes from $12,000 to $24,000. this doesn't matter for you. you at this table, you might pay a little more because you are not going to be able to deduct that bottom line why are texans and floridians subsidizing your write off. brian: your argument you put out there is with your own party. >> if we are looking out for low income, middle income folks, this isn't going to impact them. higher income folks it will. democrats to want to have income war they should join news this effort. steve: people who itemize this is not going to impact them. >> we have to work through. this but i think we're trying to get a lot of revenue to lower rates. this is the largest revenue raiser. it's about a trillion dollars in revenue when we don't allow to you write off your state and local taxes. this thing is going to collapse. so we need it. abby: we do. brian: you just want that child deduction. >> 8 kids, right. increase that a little bit more. brian: thanks so much, congressman. speaking of tax reform. white house budget director mick mulvaney will be here live. that's what he looks like. steve: top of the hour. plus, will they show how the house held him in contempt from hollywood. eric holder is getting a tv drama based on him. will it have his whole history? 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[cheers] abby: that was a really powerful moment yesterday. >> steve scalise returning to capitol hill and both parties overjoyed. >> when i was laying out on that ball field, i just started to pray that at that point it was in god's hands. i'm definitely a living example that miracles really do happen ♪ of the brave ♪ [cheers and applause] >> players sending a message of unity during the national anthem linking arms together. >> unity is when you put your hand over your heart and you stand up for the flag and you respect this country. >> we all should stand for the flag. this is america. >> i kneel for the lord and i stand for the flag. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ everybody's working for the weekend ♪ ♪ everybody wants to. steve: actually we know somebody who is working on the weekend that would be abby huntsman who is filling in for ainsley once again. she will be back on monday. thank you very much for helping us. abby: happy to be here. brian: staring straight ahead at 8 more hours saturday and sunday. your dad is now officially the ambassador to russia. he got through quicker than anybody unanimous maybe even quicker than mattis unanimous consent both sides of the aisle. >> amazing for him. pretty easy job for him ambassador to russia. brian: i can't imagine anything more controversial. abby: we are still talking about the national anthem and nfl and kneeling and last night was a pretty powerful moment if you were watching the packers game. brian: everyone was watching before the game even though the packers and bears had one of the best rivalries in sports. we wanted to see what the players were going to do during the national anthem. they stood, they locked arms, and the fans loved it. ♪ the bombs bursting in air [cheers and applause] ♪ gave proof through the night ♪ that our flag was still there ♪ o say does that star spangled ♪ banner yet wave [cheers and applause] o'er the land of the free [cheers and applause] ♪ and the home of the brave ♪ [cheers and applause] steve: i love that guy saluting right there. the packers players wanted and they sent out word to the fans in the crowd we're all going to be linking arms for social justice for unity. we want all in the audience to do the same thing. very few did. most had their hands over their heart. a lot of them sang. aaron rogers was trying to convince the fans this group demonstration was necessary it was all about equality. he said as much as some people want us to just shut up and play football and keep the politics to politics, sports and politics have always been intersected. okay. that may be the case, but you know what? a lot of people don't like politics when it comes to the anthem. you should stand up. abby: i think that's a veteran right there saluting. as you said not many in the crowd were locked in arms but they were saluting the american flag, a few of them. and also chanting u.s.a., u.s.a. this is a step forward though, brian, when you think about where we were just last weekend. monday night football even. we are not kneeling anymore u. brian: 25 owners got together. select players were asked to come in and talk about a way out of this for the national football league just across town here. we know it looks like the patriots will be standing and pittsburgh steelers have committed to standing and it looks like the denver bronk co-s have committed to standing. there is a couple of players in seattle and at least one in oakland that i know made it clear they are not standing. steve: one the giants players come out and said you know what? we had a good conversation. it was all positive, but nothing has been ironed out. brian: no mandate from the league or from teams. but there is directives not mandates. brian: other major story in america is the growth of the economy we're over 3% and revised upward. that is leading to the last quarter ended in june. the director of the office of management and budget got that news. what does it mean to people watching right now that our economy is at 3.1%? >> it means one the greatest things in politics which is that i get to go to all the key tractors beating up on the administration the last three months and go i told you so which is the greatest feeling in politics. brian: going to be tough to keep it though with the hurricanes, correct? >> it is. we expect to see sort of a tick down because of all three hurricanes during the third quarter. that's at this point typical. what's also typical is you will see a corresponding uptick in the fourth quarter the quarter after the hurricane. more importantly and seriously what you see now is more folks are going back to, woman of achievement jobs are paying better. more opportunities. we are seeing that 3% growth we have talked about sirns the administration started. in all fairness, we are seeing it much earlier than we expected. did i not project in the budget that we would see 3% growth until i believe 2019. so it's actually happening faster than we expected. steve: well, good. meanwhile, let's talk about taxes. we saw the president earlier in the week. we know he is going to go out and make a speech to the national association of manufacturers as some loud equipment drives behind you there at the white house right now. the message to the folks is you're going to cut the taxes for people in the middle class and you are going to make it simpler, right? >> yeah. the two primary things for the president. number one folks in the middle class will pay less and it will be easier for them to pay. i don't think nearly enough folks have been talking about the fact that almost 90% of households, not businesses, ordinary folks pay somebody else to do their taxes. they won't have to do that anymore. you will pay less and be easier to pay and won't have to pay somebody else to do it for you. that's number one. number two is we really are focusing hard on corporate tax rate as we try to give companies incentives to invest in america again. brian: mick, even though the house and senate and white house on the same relief on the through is turbulence with peter king and some others repeal and deductions for state and local taxes. they want to represent those people and those people negatively affected. what's your message to republicans in the "wall street journal" today that have issue with that? >> it's pretty simple. and it's not folks from big states. it's folks from high tax states. not just large population is. this. if you and i make the same amount of money. we live in the same value house, we drive the same value car and our kids go to the same schools shouldn't we pay the exact same to support the federal government? shouldn't you are tax burden be exactly the same? the answer is yes. if you live in a low tax state, you actually pay actually higher taxes to the federal government than the exact same personal does in california or new york. that's not fair. abby: last time we had comprehensive tax reform was under ronald reagan. what did he was bring both sides of the aisle together. working with tipp o'neal as an example of that we are not hearing positive praise you from the democrats. president trump says look we are determined to make it a bipartisan effort a bipartisan deal. what are democrats, you think you they are going to come whoever? is there anything in this you think they would like? >> a couple democrats that have just already checked out. in fact, i have had a conversation with some and asked them could you ever support deduction to the corporate tax rate and they say no and that's the end of the discussion. so many of them are so heavily invested in this talking point anything that is good for the economy must be a give away to the rich that he this never consider voting yes. i think you saw the president ask senator donnelly to go to indiana. a couple of senators have been out on the road with him. democrats. yes, we are reaching across the aisle to see if there are folks that are reasonable and talk about what's good for the american economy and american families and not just good for politics. steve: absolutely. it's going to take a bipartisan effort to get something across the finish line for the people the united states. you don't see that very often, mick. you know in washington particularly in the house of representatives, except yesterday in the early afternoon, after almost three months away, after he was shot at a baseball field just a couple of miles away from where you are, steve scalise returned to a hero's welcome. i know you worked with him for a long time in congress. how impactful were these images of him coming back? because a lot of people thought he would never do what he did yesterday. >> yeah. it was pretty important stuff. i don't say this flippantly. steve, more than co-workers. steve was my second baseman. i was shortstop on the team for six years. we spent a lot of time on that field. to not only see steve to be at work tomorrow or walk in to the chamber something in all fairness didn't know was going to happen. that was good stuff. welcome back, steve. good to see you. abby: huge smile on his face. one thing that changed for him was his relationship with god. steve: he said it was proof that miracles can happen. brian: mick, i was thinking about you not only because of is he your friend but you need democrat support. be better with democratic buy in. is there any way the whip can build on that unity? >> sure. absolutely. we have talked about this before there is a lot more unity on the floor every single day that we just don't see. day in and day out democrats work with republicans. it doesn't sell. it is not glamorous. the media seems to like conflict. can i assure you that sentiment you saw in the chamber there yesterday. every single day not at that level because it's not as emotional every single day. we like each other in the house. i say we because i used to be there yesterday was just one manifestation of that not the only one. steve: it was a beautiful observation of the fact of the fact he was back. mick mulvaney the director of the office and budget quiet there. great to see you live. abby: thanks for joining us this morning. brian: when the leave falls and blower goes out. are we ever going to get a word. in. steve: sounds like somebody was backing up. abby: we will go to jillian mele for headlines. jillian: good morning to you and to you at home as well. pentagon tapping a three star general to lead the efforts in puerto rico. jeff riff buchana jeffrey buchan will oversee the work on the island. 10,000 federal workers including 7200 military workers on the ground. power, water, and gas still remain in short supply. acting dhs secretary elaine duke heads to puerto rico today to get a first-hand look at the damage. the trump administration cracking down on sanctuary cities. ice arresting nearly 500 illegal immigrants in a massive sweep this week. operation safe city spent four days and stretched from los angeles to new york city. agents targeted illegal immigrants with criminal charges or known gang affiliations. ice made it clear people from the daca program were not included in the roundup. u.s. diplomats could soon be pulled from the coulibaly ban embassy after 21 americans have mysteriously become sick while working there. some staff members suffered hearing loss and even brain injuries from what the state department has called a sonic attack. the cuban government denies any involvement. but we're learning secretary of state rex tillerson could shut the embassy down completely. that's a look at your headlines on this friday. send it back to you guys. brian: they should shut it down. abby: somebody just wrote me on social media i am watching your show but i won't get up until brian tells me to get dressed. brian: please get dressed. 1 minutes after the hour. coming up, refusing to accept books donated by the first lady. calling them racist propaganda. seriously? they from a doctor. steve: yeah, dr. seuss. did it have impact on the election or real news that sunk hillary and the democrats? ♪ kurt, the cyberguy, is coming in like a wrecking ball and is he talking facebook. ♪ all i wanted was to break you up ♪ all you ever did was ♪ wreck me ♪ yeah, you wrecked me ♪ never being satisfied. and always working to be better. kevin, meet yourkeviner. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how's your mom? life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you. ♪ ♪ abby: tech giants taking capitol hill. facebook, twitter all how influenced presidential election. brian: yesterday gave a pair of closed door briefings to the house and senate intelligence committees. steve: this claiming that fake news, #was targeted prior to the election. here to break it down kurt neutz son the cyberguy. because we are on social media so much. twitter, facebook, they know so much of what he like, they are able to target us and that can turn around and bite us. >> two thirds of americans on facebook one out of every five hours we spend online is going to facebook. every single thing you are posting there. everything is being collected and compiled into a database. what's that worth? it's worth a ton of money. so did this happen? did it happen? did all the things that are in front of congress and the senate right now, is this true? well, guess what? whether it is are it isn't, it matters in a very big way because it can happen tomorrow. it can happen today. you and i can go on to facebook and we can very, very cleanly and inexpensively target an ad that reaches brian and his friends or abby and where she has traveled over the last five years. steve: have you got to have interest though, right? >> no. you just have to have a credit card. you have a little credit card and you go online and can you do this. abby: that's creepy. all this stuff is creepy. >> yesterday what we found out is that twitter came in and said okay we have shut down 200 accounts because we found they were of russian influence. well, it really doesn't matter. twitter doesn't have the kind of inthriewns on america the way that social media giant facebook does. without question though, here is what we know, facebook did not in any way -- well, here is what i can say, facebook most assuredly, unwittingly, became a fake news machine, period. end of story. brian: ad buys were bought by a nonperson. >> anybody. steve: who know who it was. >> anybody. you can get your ad approved in 15 minutes and you will never, a human eye might never see it. abby: i have been on the phone this actually happened and i said this i would love to go to greece. did you go on facebook and have you ads going to greece. you just said it you didn't google. >> it take a look what they know about you. here are the basics. we have seen this before. but then you look at it again and go under the circumstances right now, this is kind of wild. so age, gender, religion, your political affiliation, your education, your relationship status. what hobbies you are in to, your job title. what you purchased. what your friends are purchased. what devices. steve: it sounds like google or facebook knows more but than the federal government actually and they ever collecting a lot. >> here's what i'm here to tell you. facebook knows more but and your best friend and closest family members. i guarantee it. you can go on. go on today and find -- i put it up right now. cyberguy.com and foxandfriends.com and search me on facebook. i will show you how you can see what they know about you. abby: i don't think i want to see. i don't know if i want that. >> you do. you want to see it. brian: we just found out for the first time abby wants to go to greece. >> i knew that facebook told me. abby: fox news alert. top isis leader in a chilling new audio video. message sent to terrorist followers. brian: protest against the national anthem. next guest pulled all of the ads from the nfl games. the founder of check in to casual len jones here with why he is taking a stand. >> welcome back. ♪ ♪ i had frequent heartburn, but my doctor recommended... ...prilosec otc 7 years ago, 5 years ago, last week. just 1 pill each morning, 24 hours and zero heartburn. it's been the number 1 doctor recommended brand for 10... ...straight years, and it's still recommended today. use as directed. 83% try to eat healthy, yet up to 90% fall short on getting key nutrients. let's do more. one-a-day women's. complete with key nutrients we may need, plus it supports bone health with calcium and vitamin d. one-a-day women's. so how old do you want uhh, i was thinking around 70. alright, and before that? 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it is the first time ever that three u.s. presidents have attended the event at the very same time. finally zero dollars your morning jolt free today. several companies offering free coffee for national coffee day. brian: a show of solidarity last night for the packers and the bears. they stood linking arms but most importantly they stood for the national anthem. a much different scene than last sunday when more than 200 players protested. steve: while many have expressed anger, one business owner is putting his money where his mouth is, allen jones, the founder of check in to cash and the owner of hardwood clothes which he has come on the program to talk about has pulled all his ads from nfl games saying he won't take the behavior and he joins us live. allen, what was it about the protest that you saw where 200 players last week took a knee that just drove you nuts and you said enough already? >> you know, i'm just a patriot. i have always been a patriot. i don't know what it is. i have always been a patriot. i'm southern gentlemen from cleveland, tennessee a small town of about 40,000. i don't remember. i'm 64. i don't ever remember anybody not standing for the national anthem. it just went all over me. i want you all to remember i'm a small fry and small player. what i'm pulling off is not a lot to them. people asking like i'm mercedes bins and i'm getting ready to take the mercedes stadium away from the falcons. that's not me. i'm a small town player. i'm pulling my ad ads from fort wayne, indiana and places like that. abby: it's a big decision. could that be bad for business? >> at some point, abby, your country comes first. but, you know, i didn't think about it at the time. and when did i it, i certainly didn't realize the firestorm it was causing. did i it and told my friends on facebook. i sent it off. i went to my granddaughter's cheerleading in chattanooga, tennessee 7th great football. when i came home all this stuff broke loose. brian: you made your move. that's what people say will get the nfl's attention when sponsors move out or start to stay home. in the big picture, what the players want is more social justifiable. do they have a point? >> not with the pledge of allegiance. if you will study francis scott key, i mean the national anthem. when he wrote the national anthem, francis scott key at fort mchenry, if somebody would just study that a little bit and understand why this thing was written bombs busting in air was to see if the flag was still up. it's a great story. these guys don't know it. they just don't know. steve: yeah, but you know for a fact a lot of the players who took a knee last week, alan, were steamed that the president of the united states made the comments about them a couple of days earlier. so, regardless of what they had protested in the past, racial, you know, police brutality, racial inequality, last week it was all about protesting donald trump. >> well, i know, but you don't protest it with our flag. it's us. i don't care. steve: before or after. >> we're here together. it's our country together. we stand together. it's the one thing we are together on. and i can't stand to see that split. abby: so what needs to change? what would make you put your ads back up? >> that they have quit and they go back to, you know -- i'm a sports fan. we are big donors university of tennessee. georgia is coming to town saturday. i'll be there. i love the pros. the cleveland browns is owned by tennesseeen, you know. so i look forward to being able to watch this. but they are going to have to change and they are going to have to. if they want to lock hands that's one thing. brian: what you saw last night was tv. >> i didn't watch it last night i turned it off. brian: they stood up arm and arm. >> if they want to hold arms, that's okay. but don't take a knee. in football, don't take a knee. i would never ever take a knee 50's losing, ever. brian: alan jones, thanks so much, thanks for telling us your story. >> thank you. abby: mother refusing to get her child vaccinate you had now facing jail time unless she complies. really county court make that call? brian: rush limbaugh sitting down with our own sean hannity last night. the establishment doesn't want the president to succeed. do you agree with that? newt gingrich is going to be asked that question. i wonder what he is going to say. ♪ ♪ >> can't afford for him to succeed with his agenda. they can't afford it the lid is blown the gig is over. the joke is revealed. if an outsider with no political experience can come in and fix messes that people have been promised would be fixed for 30 years, how does that make them look? they can't allow that to happen. brian: fascinating comment when rush limbaugh thinks republicans do not want president trump to succeed. steve: well, in particular, republican establishment. we happen to know somebody from the establishment. it's former speaker of the house, fox news contributor also the author of understanding trump, a big "new york times" best seller and host of an online show defending america. newt gingrich. newt, thanks for joining us. what did you make of rush limbaugh saying the g.o.p. establishment does not want our president, donald trump, to win? >> well, let me say first of all congratulate abby, her dad was confirmed yesterday to go to moscow and he is the only guy i know who has been ambassador to both beijing and moscow. quite an honor for your family and great he is a citizen and your mom is a citizen willing to serve the country congratulations to your family i know you are going through it, too. >> it's a complicated process. look, i think that first of all, as much as i admire russia and we have known each other many years, i think he is a half step behind what's happening. are there some never trumpers? sure, interest r. there some people who cause trouble, sure. let me give you an example. this is the postcard tax form that 85% of americans will be able to file under the new republican tax plan. literally a postcard. now, that was developed by the trump white house by the house republicans and the senate republicans as a team. they launched it this week as a team. i think that they have learned a lot of painful lessons over the last nine months. i think they recognize that all three are relying on each other. trump is not going to get his big changes without the congress. congress isn't going to be successful without trump. i think in that sense it's a mistake to look at the complex city of our constitutional system. and then assume that that's because people don't want to help trump. our constitution was designed to be really hard, to get things done in order to avoid dictatorship. steve: they did it. >> they did it i always tell people they did such a good job of making sure dictators couldn't run the government we could barely do it voluntarily. when i talk to them and people tend to gloss over. this mitch mcconnell got 49 out of 52 republicans to vote to repeal obamacare. that's three who voted no. there were 48 democrats who voted no. that's 16 democrats for every republican. so if you want to blame, quote, the establishment, you ought to start with the democrats because they are the one loss are constantly on every single issue blocking and slowing things down. brian: right. >> not the republicans. steve: pardon me, i was just going to say you know all those republicans who voted no, essentially, had said in the past give us a chance to repeal and replace. we will do whatever we can they were given a chance. they said no. >> right. you can decide. actually in the case of susan collins, she had been very consistent. >> she was. >> she had always said she was doubtful this was the right way to go. so, let's take two other republicans. you can focus all your anger on the republicans for these two or you can say, gee, if we could pick up 6 or 8 seats next year, life gets dramatically easier. i'm saying as somebody who has been around a long time the reagan moto would be let's go out and take care of the 48 democrats who voted no. give ourselves bigger margin for error and we will get a lot of stuff done. i understand there is a certain desire on the right to always be mad at ourselves. there is a certain people who make money sending out appeals to attack ourselves. as somebody who was worked with ronald reagan. i don't think that's the right way to do it. we focused on the country, not on inside the party fighting. >> as kim strossel writes today in the "wall street journal." it is really three people it is collins, mostly cloudy skies contain, and rand paul. and they are not necessarily out to get to stop donald trump. in fact, the people that seem to be most against donald trump but vote with him all time senator ben sass and jeff flake. they are always with him on issues. their problem with him perhaps is personal. that doesn't make much sense. do you fear that steve bannon is going to go target those out there and cause this so-called civil war on the right? sure, ban done is unleashed. drag party not so much toward the right or left how aggressive. i'm not sure judge moore is going to be dramatically more to the right than strange in terms of his votes. he will be much more aggressive and verbal and much more attacking and being angry. so, but that's how parties talk to themselves u look, the democrats have a huge crisis coming. because they have bernie sanders carrying them towards socialism in a way that the country will repudiate. we're having an internal fight. but the fight is over a very simple question. how do you drain the swamp? i want to go back to the taxes and to this postcard. the republican plan cuts money off from the swamp. the republican plan puts the money back in your pocket. so, if you are serious about taking on the swamp, you have to help pass the republican tax cuts because they are a major step towards economic growth and a major step towards taking money away from the bureaucracy. >> absolutely. what do these lawmakers care about more than anything at all winning the election. great perspective. >> thank you. abby: let's go over to jillian mele for other headlines. jillian: good morning to you at home. the leader of isis may stillable alive despite claims from the russians they killed him. terrorist run news outlet running audio of abu bakr al-baghdadi. daniel hoffman told us this could be big. >> all indications are that he's alive. it's a proof life. he purposely used references to current events like north korea and syria to refute the allegation that russia had killed them in air strike in raqqa back in may. >> u.s. officials cannot record when baghdad the tape. the pentagon never confirmed his death. oh the places these book also not go. school librarian in massachusetts rejecting a package of dr. suess books from first lady melania trump calling them racist propaganda. the librarian said the books should have been sent to other schools that needed them more. but the school district says the librarian's actions doesn't represent them. the first lady sent book packages to schools in all 50 states to celebrate national read a book day. talk about creative freedom. a detroit high school now going viral for allowing its seniors to dress up in costumes for their id pictures and the results are just hilarious. look. this is sarah dressed up as our commander-in-chief. and kelsey doing an uncanny impression of darla from the movie finding nemo. jake going all out as woody from toy story. the school says they let their seniors dress up every year. got to love it i have to ask you guys then if you could do that. >> i love that. brian: don't do it for the yearbook will last forever. what's funny now is not funny in 10, 15, 20 years. >> jillian: that's hilarious. steve: was that photo shopped or did they actually wear the costume. jillian: they wore them. abby: what would you do? >> fireman. steve: janice dean married one. janice: he will take care of all of us. happy friday. >> party all over our body. januaryian what's your name young lady. >> my name florence. janice: what are you doing on friday. >> i'm leaving unfortunately back to my little home in wood bridge and had a wonderful tour and visit of your -- janice: do you want to do the weather for me. >> the weather right out here now? the weather is not what it was the last five days. the last four or five days was totally beautifully unreal. janice: nicely done. >> and i said why didn't i take my jacket with me? but no i'm not because i'm excited. janice: how did she do on the weather report, everybody? >> she did great. janice: where are you from? >> nebraska. >> what's your name, honey? >> elizabeth. janice: elizabeth. say thank you so much for having me and now back to you, abby, steve, and brian. >> thank you so much for having me. now back to you abby, steve, and brian. janice: that's fantastic. they did it all for me. who needs the weather person when we have a crowd like this today. prinel brian there you go. abby: i love it thank you, janice. it does feel like the first day of fall here. steve: absolutely. people watching in california right now coming here to the big town, bring a coat. abby: nice a cold. brian: grow your chest hair out it will be nice and cold. abby: it's good for pregnant women. >> i'm in the military, my brother is in the military. i are friends wrapped in the flag. i have family that's wrapped in the flag. i feel like if you are going to protest, that isn't the right time. abby: todd piro went to green bay for thursday night football. you don't want to miss that he's up next. steve: then, how does half off annuity tri bullet sound? 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todd piro in green bay with a quick swath of what the fans thought there and in the sports bar. todd: good morning, guys, yeah, right now the sun is up over lambeau field. absolutely gorgeous scene here. last night here the bears and packers wrote another storied chapter in their rivalry. we spoke with fans about standing for the national anthem means for them. >> as a veteran, when people kneel for the national anthem, what do you think? >> i have been through two wars. i have seen a lot, lost a lot of friends. and that flag is actually something. i mean, to see that, it's a terrible thing, man. todd: when people kneel, what goes through your head? >> stand up. >> ashamed. ashamed of our country. >> we all should stand for our flag. this is america. >> i don't even want to tell you what i feel because i think it's just absolutely the most terrible thing that i have ever seen. >> i kneel for the lord and i stand for the flag. >> why are you wearing that button? >> stand for the american flag. you stand for the national anthem. >> do you agree with the president when he tells team owners that if they have players on their team that refuse to stand for the national anthem that they should be fired. >> i don't think that is the president's decision. >> as an owner of the packers myself, i think that when i saw kendrick and all the other ones kneeling, that really disappointed me. >> i bought season tickets to watch these players play football, not lock arms. >> if your team knelt entirely, would you give up your season tickets? >> oh, yeah. absolutely. >> do that some other time. the national anthem is sacred to us. the flag is sacred to us. you want to protest, don't do it on your boss' time. don't do it on my time. >> i mean, i have been through too much, seen too much. i'm a disabled vet, actually. i took three shots for this country. i still stand for the flag. >> i'm in the military. my brother is in the military. i have friends that are wrapped in the flag. i have family that's wrapped in the flag. and i just feel like if you are going to protest, that isn't the right time to do it. >> after interviewing fans outside lambeau about kneeling for the national anthem, we are here inside a bar just steps away from the stadium to see the response as the theme is played. >> and the home of the brave ♪ [cheers and applause] todd: we saw locking of arms last night on the field. we have already heard from many teams so far what their plans are to show unity when kickoff happens on sunday. back to you in new york. brian: thanks so much, todd. i also heard any need security on ray lewis' statue outside the stadium. he took a knee both knees in wimbley stadium. worried 36,000 people signed a petition to take it down. worried about some guy defiling that like columbus and francis scott key and thomas jefferson and everybody else. abby: you wonder members of our military serving over in the middle east right now in places like kabul they love watching these games from the bases and love catching up on football. you wonder what they think about this. steve: furious. you wonder what tomi lahren thinks. she is coming up next. abby: one of the amazing mega morning deals for "fox & friends" viewers just for you that's coming up next. steve: that's how i make my smoothie ♪ keep your freedom for as long as you can now ♪ my momma told me ♪ you better shop around ♪ yeah ♪ you better shop there's a denture adhesive that holds strong until evening. fixodent plus adhesives. just one application gives you superior hold even at the end of the day fixodent. strong more like natural teeth. 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think again. we are building new airports all across the state. new roads and bridges. new mass transit. new business friendly environment. new lower taxes. and new university partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. learn more at esd.ny.gov ♪ >> panic spreading in puerto rico as nearly half the population still does not have access to food, water or power. >> president trump granted a 10-day waiver of the jones maritime act to allow foreign vessels to ferry supplies. >> every time we have spoken, had and ask, they delivered. >> the vice president promised to pass the largest tax cut in u.s. history. >> the economy expands weil more than pay for the tax cuts. >> you pay less and easier to pay. you won't have to pay somebody else to do it for you. steve: steve scalise returned to a hero's welcome. >> when i laid out on the ballfield, i started to pray. it is in god's hands. i'm a living example miracles happen. ♪ home of the brave . >> players sending a message of unity during the national anthem, linking arms together. >> packers can get us to come out in 10-degree below weather, but they can't get us to disrespect the flag. >> we should stand for the flag. this is america. ♪ [we will, we will rock you ♪. brian: that is not queen. abby: that will wake you up. brian: but that was tyler, singing the national anthem yesterday. before he started singing they were chanting usa in the stands. everyone was watching to see what the bears and packers would do. abby: saluting the flag. tony lair ren on the couch. >> -- tomi lahren. >> thank you very much. steve: turns out packers asked the fans to link for social justice and unity. fans said, the team can do what they want to do. we'll cheer, put our hands on our heart. >> don't mess with the midwest. someone from the midwest, you don't mess with our flag, our anthem, our patriotism. this link arms solidarity. how about put the hand over the heart for solidarity? that is what it means. same political statement, fans will be upset about it. they can pull whatever they want, whatever stunt, same message, same disrespect. abby: i was going to say we had brandon tatum on the show earlier. if you have not pulled up his video on 400,000 views, he is a police officer in arizona, he is fed up as you can imagine about the kneeling of the anthem. something you have to see. we talked to him on the show, he talks of the nfl being divisive, not the president. here is what he told us. >> i think that the american people are wise enough to know that the true unity is when you put your hand over your heart. i don't think the president is being divisive. i think the fact you take the knee on a flag, you're starting division right there. i think the president is trying to bring things back around full circle, we need to realize what unity means. stand for the flag, not divide ourselves by disrespecting america to push an agenda. abby: when has the flag been controversial? >> now it is in 2017. isn't that just sad, really. going back to what he said, a slap in the face to the police officers, veterans, our military. those sticking up for this, especially democrats come out in force for nfl for players. is that the new agenda. anti-america is that the agenda to help them in 2018, help them in 2020? i don't think so. continue. see how the fans react. brian: nfl had a meeting. nothing came out in terms of a mandate. giants owner, do me a favor, stand for the national anthem, i'm not making you. broncos committed to stand. patriots committed to stand. do you think this is over now? >> no, i don't. you know what? i would tell the players kneeling they don't seem to understand what that flag and anthem mean. i would encourage them to go to vfw. encourage to speak to veterans see what the flag means to them. maybe they might feel a little differently about the little stunts, see the perspective, what the flag means to others. steve: you talk a lot about politics. you're here with us as fox news contributor. politically is this a win for donald trump? >> i think it is. you have to remember, his america first message, that is what brought him into office. that is what brought so many republicans on his coat taste into office. standing up for the anthem, flag, america first, that is absolutely what his base wantings. that is what i want. that is what americans should want. they want a president stands up for them for the country. isn't great. steve: make the anthem great again. >> exactly. abby: when he calls them s.o.b.s and uses language from the president. that is style. he was elected into office. many say, he has winning side of this argument but maybe he should have talked about it difficultly? >> i understand that. that is donald trump. you're not going to change him. that is the way most folks in the midwest feel. they use those words, that language. that is how they connect with each other. that is how they connect with the president. some people might not like the words. i get so tired, i wish he wouldn't tweet this, i wish he wouldn't say that. my goodness, if that is the biggest problem with the president. brian: you can't take expletives literally. most expletives are impossible to fulfill. meanwhile, let's talk about this. the war on history in general. do you think this plays into it between statues, between monuments, what is happening on college campuses? do you think that is part of this pushback about america? >> it is let's make america less american. that is what the left wants. that is what liberal college professors. they want to do anything to erase history and erase every shred of patriotism. i think that happened in europe. it is still happening in europe. if we're not careful, it will happen here. luckily we have president standing his ground and americans will follow his lead. steve: i don't know if folks seen this. secretary of education betsy devos was greeted by number of protesters held up white supremacist sign. one of them right there. what do you think of that. what is the kids at harvard saying? >> that is the go-to, resistance. that is what they use, they use identity politics and labels to silence people. it is disrespectful. the go-to label, a white supremacist, you don't care who you call that to, that makes country safer for white supreme sifts. you throw us all into the basket of deplorables. can't separate those from who are conservative. what is going on. so disrespectful. it is a losing one. abby: this is going on. librarian rejects first lady melania trump gift of dr. suess book to elementary school. they're racist. send the book somewhere else. >> isn't that amaze. brian: "green eggs and ham." abby: one of my favorite childhood books. >> put children at disadvantage than accept a gift from first lady, because she is a trump. they're putting their own hatred above the country, above their students, above what is good for everyone. brian: this week alabama had election. steve bannon's candidate win over donald trump's candidate. some speculate this is somewhat of a civil war on the right? do you sense that? establishment, jeff flakes of the world, john mccains of the world as opposed to judge moore? >> we're going to see so much more of this. the establishment can't hide anymore. they can not. they have to do something. that is the biggest thing. it is not being pro-trump, anti-trump, never trumper. i don't care about any of that be a conservative. do what we went you there to do. donald trump turning to democrats to work with them, that our own party refuses to that says something. they will not be safe. steve: fox news contributor and online at foxnews.com doing what? >> final thoughts. i think my voicer is being heard loud and clear. michelle obama obama thinks because i didn't vote for hillary, but, oh, boy do i. abby: where can people find you? >> foxnews.com. fox news insider. home of my final thoughts. we put them on my facebook pages. my fans from facebook. we share them there too. steve: welcome to the family. abby: go over to jillian for other headlines. happy friday. jillian: seen them on twitter as well, tomi. welcome. climber is lucky to be alive after not one but two dangerous rock falls in yosemite. massive boulder fell at el capitan bolder fell beneath him. just days later another one was killed feet from where he was climbing. officials estimate the rockslide was larger than the first. two police officers shot by enraged customer. the man pulling a gun on the officers when they confronted him in cleveland, ohio. one cop was shot in the stomach. the other in the leg. they are both stable condition. the suspect was shot, recovering in the hospital. witnesses say he was unhappy his car wasn't done on time. official motive is still unknown. twitter finding and shutting down 200 accounts linked to russia. the social media site revealing information to congress as they investigate the russian influence on the 2016 election. democratic senator mark warner says twitter is not doing enough. >> their response was, frankly inadequate on almost every level. jillian: twitter, facebook and google have been asked to testify in public by both the house and senate intelligence committees. he is the 41st president, number one grandpa, george w. bush paying special bedtime visit to his granddaughters. the girls were smuggling up in matching doughnut pajamas. what else would you wear. mom and former first daughter jenna bush hager posting adorable photos online. i love that. don't you like a inside look. abby: jenna is good about doing that always posts photos of her family, kids and grandparents. steve: that was 43 with the granddaughter. thanks, jillian. brian: fox news alert. puerto rico in crisis. people desperate for help. supplies running dangerously low. geraldo rivera has been living with. on the ground with his family and with the citizens. he will give us the inside story next. abby: tomi mentioned it. former first lady michelle obama attacking women that voted for trump saying they're voting against their envoys. ♪ trusted battery for your son's favorite toy?t maybe not. maybe, you could trust he wouldn't leave the upstairs water running. (woman screams) or, you could just trust duracell. ♪ ♪ can i get some help. watch his head. ♪ i'm so happy. ♪ whatever they went through, they went through together. welcome guys. life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you. so was your doctor's appointment at a steakhouse? ment. when your t-shirt smells more like a t-bone... that's when you know it's half-washed. add downy with odor protect for 24-hour odor protection. unlike detergent alone, downy conditions fibers to lock... ...out odors all day. hey your shirt's making me hungry. so don't half-wash it. downy and it's done. brian: 14 minutes after the hour. we're back with fox news alert. relief efforts underway in puerto rico from hurricane maria. it has been eight days. abby: eight days. power, water and gas remain in short supply. steve: fox news correspondent at large, geraldo rivera is at the convention center with the latest. you are talking about the desperate situation there. there is a lot of american relief there at the port but it simply can't get out to the folks because of transportation problems. >> transportation problems and also management. there is nobody in charge logistically. you have eight coming in, steve, from private charities. you have aid coming from the federal government. there is absolute chaos. there are two races going on. one to get people out of puerto rico. the other to get aid in. i saw the chaos first-hand on the docks where the cruise liners, come in to do a mercy, a mercy mission. america of the seas in yesterday. absolute chaos. it reminds you of bigone days. listen. >> people are fighting for water. they're fighting for diapers, for pampers anything they can find. we don't have water, running water. we don't have electricity. honestly there has not been help coming for us. >> this is absolutely the worst natural disaster fema is telling me ever. 3.4 million people. the vast majority of them, almost all of them, if you don't have a generator, you have no electrical power. there is water to only about half of the people in puerto rico. waiting on gas lines, six, eight, 10 hours. the officials haven't even gotten to the entire island yet. there are downed power lines on the south side. scarcely a street without the electrical power lines broken and lying in the street. homes destroyed everywhere. you know, i have a personal connection on the south side too. i own property there until couple months ago for 14 years. people who worked for plea have been devastated. their businesses have been destroyed. my friend jose there, he has not seen any kind of assistance. no aid has come to him. his daughter natalie was actually my secretary at fox news. she describes what the storm was like when it passed over them down in salina down on the south side of puerto rico. here is natalie. where were you during the storm? >> here. >> how was it? >> it was very horrible. >> jose is a big strong guy. to see him almost in tears with frustration, with the absolute loss, you know, there is no way to pay their bills. their businesses are destroyed. businesses are largely closed throughout the island. smaller shops are opening. they're very enterprising people here, but needs can not be overstated. you know, when disasters hit typically, 10,000 people, 15,000 people, 25 million people are affected severely. here in puerto rico over 3 million american citizens living in conditions that are basically the, the dark ages. it is something that, it breaks your heart. it really breaks your heart. when i look at port of san juan yesterday, like the airport in san juan, they're operating at 30, 40% capacity. it does not seem to be coordination between the private agencies and the public agencies. there seems to be, you know, a kind, i mean the governor is a good person. they're trying hard but the magnitude. and i have to stress that the magnitude of this absolute disaster is so generalized, that it is going to take a long time to dig our way out of this one. brian: president coming on tuesday. three-star general, lieutenant-general jeff buchanan. if the military take this is over, is the island size of which, and how long will it take, if the military comes here in force, which they're on their way? how long will it take before their impact will be felt for the entire place? >> you know, brian, i think best comparison is when general russell honor re, remember when he went to katrina, people were dying in the convention center in new orleans when katrina hit. nobody knew what to do. fema was running around basically hisits tail. general honore got things organized. when the three-star general becomes incident commander, everybody reports to the general, united states military takes control, i think you get ports operating in a crisp, efficient aid. people are generous. people reaching out to me, churches, how can i help, geraldo? take this or that. when you have the united states military in control in a period of weeks, rather than months at least you will have organized, flowing stream of aid in. people out. we have so get people out. tourists here have been stranded here. brian: can't get to the money because atms are down. doing a great job. hang in there. help is on the way. >> thank you, geraldo. steve: it is so complicated, not like the town in the united states where there are roads in. it is an island. 8:20 here in new york city, bench memorializing a teen age killed in a tragic accident, being removed because of a bible verse. brian: our next guest used to sit for the national anthem until he had a reality check. he has a message for all the protesters. he is here in matter of seconds. call 1-877-get-tena. whentrust the brand doctors trust for themselves. nexium 24hr is the number one choice of doctors and pharmacists for their own frequent heartburn. and all day all night protection. when it comes to frequent heartburn, trust nexium 24hr. what comes to mind when you think about healthcare? 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>> he felt very good about it. i was raised as jehovah's witness, i was taught to shun all forms of patriotism. it was considered a form of idolatry. when i left the religion and for my teams i like thatted. my dad was jehovah witness and they were divorced. steve: growing up in a country where everybody stood for the national anthem, it had to be hard. >> it was hard. one of many things that i didn't stand growing up in the religion. i'm not challenging the patriotism of the players. i'm questioning what is being protested has basis in reality. the players say increase of shootings by police of young black men they're protests. i think there sin crease in coverage of shooting, thanks mostly to social media, that is the not same thing saying there is increase in the shootings. the data does not show that. take new york city, where we are for example. in 1971 cops shot 314 people in new york. 91 of them or 93 of them fatally i believe. fast forward to 2015. they shot 23 people, 6 of them fatally. that is 93% reduction in police shootings and police shooting fatalities over four 1/2 decades. the trend is in the opposite direction. nationwide, black men, 70% less likely to be shot by cops than they were in late 1960s. a black economist at harvard, roland pryor put out a study in 2016, says black suspects are less likely than white suspects to be shot by police. i'm challenging the narrative that they are protesting. brian: spike lee says yesterday, or two days ago, that he believes colin kaepernick and this whole movement you discussed will be put in the same frame as muhammad ali fighting not going into the vietnam war. >> i hope not. i don't think that is proper. i think again, people need to know the facts about what is going on. if players wanted to play a constructive role i think they could be saying to young black kid out there, when the police say stop, stop. don't resist arrest. fight them in courts, not out in the street. most of these incidents that we've seen, that have been played up in the media involve resisting arrest. so i think lesson to be learned here, obey the police when they ask you to do something. steve: but your larger issue, and you wrote, the larger question, in the column in the "wall street journal," it is great, the larger question what is being protested has some basis in reality beyond anecdotes and viral videos on social media you talked about. what do you say about the folks protesting, they're simply not getting their history right? >> i don't think they have the facts right and i think again the increase in coverage has given the impression that there has been an increase in these incidents overall. and the data doesn't show that now there are people out there who don't mind this false narrative. it works to their advantage. they have a political reason to do it. they're social justice warriors or other reasons to do it, but that doesn't mean that is the reality of what is going on. i think some extent i think players are taken advantage of by larger forces, political forces, civil rights advocates. >> rush limbaugh says political left. >> political left. brian: we'll see if the worst is behind for this league and battle between patriotism, social justice. jason, great column as usual. great to see you, sir. 31 minutes before we're done. steve: from washington to hollywood, attorney general eric holder getting a tv drama based on, eric holder. do you think they will include the time the u.s. house of representatives held him in contempt? i bet not. brian: former first lady michelle obama attacking women who voted for president trump because they're attacking their own voice. judge jeanine pirro has a voice. i wonder how she feels. ♪ that's really important to dentists is to make sure that that enamel stays strong and resilient for a lifetime the more that we can strengthen and re-harden that tooth surface, the whiter their patients' teeth are going to be. dentists are going to really want to recommend pronamel strong and bright. it helps to strengthen and re-harden the enamel. it also has stain lifting action. it's going to give their patients the protection that they need and the whiter teeth that they want. ♪ which saves money. insurance a smarter way. they offer paperless billing and automatic payments. which saves paper. which saves money. they offer home and auto coverage, so you can bundle your policies. which saves hassle. which saves money. and they offer a single deductible. which means you only pay once when something like this happens. which saves money. esurance was born online and built to save. and when they save, you save. that's home and auto insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call. >> fry like bacon. fry like bacon. steve: there is a black lives matter demonstration awhile back in st. paul, minnesota. joining the host of "justice with judge jeanine" pirro. talk about how a police officer anonymously sued black lives matter. he was at a demonstration, he was injured, somebody threw a rock or bottle, a judge came out, made it very clear that you can't sue black lives matter. why? >> the judge says you can't sue black lives matter, it is organization like the civil rights movement, like the tea party. it doesn't have a governing body. it doesn't have bylaws. steve: too general? >> too amorphous, the plaintiff in this case said look, these people have meetings, it is unincorporated association. they have national chapters. they solicit money. and in this particular case, ray, mckesson, the organizer actually was directing people, directing violence, directing -- steve: can you sue him? >> yes you can sue him. the judge said, guess what he was engaging in protected free speech. i want you to guess who appointed this federal judge? brian: ronald reagan. >> no. barack obama. and you know what? the amazing part of this is, that ray mckesson, about 90 of people who were protesting, there is the federal judge right there, actually got $100,000 from the city of baton rouge because, baton rouge, they said, was very offensive to them. the police were militarized. and although no one was injured, they felt that their civil rights were violated. what is wrong with this country today? the problem is, when you have federal judges who make decisions based on politics, activist judges, and not on the facts, you have a police officer who was injured. he was injured at the direction of the deray mckesson. he walks away with $100,000 for organization that is amorphous, we have a problem. abby: you have thoughts about this one. former first lady michelle obama speaking out to women who decided to vote for donald trump. she said this was ultimately a voice, or a vote against your own voice. this is what she said. >> people that voted against hillary clinton, voted against their own voice. brian: a lot of reverb in the response, but a big message to women, how dare you not vote for the first woman president and vote for donald trump who see assumes is anti-women. >> the condescension, how dare you. you should know better. i want to ask you a question. who ran against barack obama? brian: it was a woman. >> it was a woman. brian: hillary clinton. >> so i guess then, michelle obama didn't know her own voice when she voted against her own voice against a woman. steve: how do you know she voted for her own husband. >> to suggest women are so simple they vote based on reproductive organs only, or madeleine albright say there is special place in hell for women that don't vote for other women is so simplistic throws us back to the dark ages. women voted for donald trump in 2016 for two reasons, economy and terrorism. and most of them thought hillary clinton was a crook and she was arrogant. that may be just me. brian: lebron james said anyone who voted for donald trump was uneducated. so it is a whole -- >> shame i have a law degree. abby: judge, good to see you this morning. >> good to see you guys. abby: we'll see you all weaken long. >> that's right. abby: jillian to other headlines. jillian: good friday morning to you guys. let's begin with this headline. the department of justice enforcing the president's buy american, hire american executive order. hitting colorado-based crop production services with massive lawsuit. the corporation is accused of discriminating against three u.s. workers refusing to hire them as seasonal technicianses in texas. instead the company hired temporary foreign workers under a visa program. this is why you buckle your kids into their car seats correctly every single time. that is the message from a pennsylvania mom, sharing this powerful photo after a car crash. two car seats undamaged after her destroyed honda. her six-week-old and 3-year-old escaping without a single scratch. a memorial for a dead teen being removed over a bible verse. they donated the bench in march but they're taking issue with the quote which reads, i can do all things through christ which strengthens me. the court says the bible verse doesn't follow the law. to keep the bench it will need a new quote. hundreds signing a petition to keep the bench where it is. disaster ending to picture-perfect caribbean wedding. watch. ♪ >> oh. jillian: oh, my goodness, the dock giving out during the vows, plunging guests into the water, taking camera with them. the bride and groom stayed dry but did get something blue. abby: well-played. they will never forget that day. jillian: no he, they will not. abby: go to janice dean. janice finally feels like fall in new york city. it is cool. >> it is a beautiful day. where are you guys from? >> alabama! >> i love all the states you're from. what is your name? >> roseanne. >> where are you from? >> long island new york. >> what is your bucket list? >> to be at fox news this morning. i'm 75 years old today. happy about it. >> happy birthday. look at maps t is cooler than it was yesterday by 17 days. we love fall temperatures in new york city. we'll be in 60s today. 55 right now. cooler across the rockies. potential for a little bit of snow. maria and lee, not a big deal. area of low pressure on florida. we'll keep an eye. anybody from florida? there we go. don't think it will turned into a named storm. still keeping an eye. you guys, happy it is friday? >> yeah. >> wave to everybody at home. abby, steve and brian. abby: happy 7 ath birthday. steve: absolutely. feels like football weather. abby: chilly weather. steve: speaking about football. abby: what fans think about all the anthem protest. >> i took three spots for this country. i still stand for the flag. we all should stand for the flag. steve: todd piro went to green bay, lambeau field to find out. he is live next. brian: a side of simon cowell you have never seen before. harvey levin takes us inside his home for must-see interview for the with him and his kid. we'll tell you the inside story shortly. ♪ do. so he took aleve. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong. 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brian: is there anything better than the last one? national spotlight where players linked arms during the national anthem. steve: different scene where hundreds possessed by taking a knee. abby: what does todd piro think? he went to green bay to find out. good morning, todd. >> reporter: lambeau field is special to some football fans, the national anthem is beyond special to some americans. last night before the bears-packers game we spoke to fans what standing for the national anthem means to them. as a veteran when people kneel for the national anthem, what do you think? >> i went through two wars. seen a lot. lost a lot of friend. that flag is actually something. to see that, it's a terrible thing, man. reporter: when people kneel, what goes through your head? >> ashamed. ashamed of our country. >> we all should stand for the flag. this is america. >> i don't even want to tell you what i feel because i think it is absolutely the most terrible thing i have ever seen. >> i kneel for the lord and i stand for the flag. reporter: why are you wearing that button? >> to stand for the american flag, you stand for the national anthem. reporter: do you agree with the president when he tells team owners if they have players on their team, that refuse to stand for the national anthem, they should be fired? >> i don't think that is the president's decision. >> as an owner of the packers myself, i think that, when i saw kendrick and all the other ones kneeling, that really disappointed me. >> i bought season tickets to watch these players play football. not lock arms. reporter: if your team knelt entirely, would you give up your season tickets? >> absolutely. >> the national anthem is sacred to us. the flag is sacred to us. >> you want to protest, don't do it on your boss's time. don't do it on my time. >> i've been through much. i've seen too much. i'm a disabled vet actually. i took three shots for this country. i still stand for the flag. >> i'm in the military. my brother is in the military. i have friend wrapped in the flag. i have family wrapped in the flag. i feel if you are going to protest, this isn't the right time to do it. reporter: interviewing fans outside of lambeau kneeling before the national anthem we're here at a bar, to see the response when the anthem is played. ♪ [cheering] reporter: for the next team to take the field week 4, drew brees announced this morning via twitter his new orleans saints will first take a knee before the national anthem, then stand for the national anthem, when kickoff begins 9:30 eastern on london in sunday. back to you guys in new york. brian: thanks, todd. that is what the cowboys did. kneeled and stood. steve: this is the simon cowell you're used to seeing. classic cowell. >> you have one of the worst voices i have ever heard. abby: harvey levin revealing a different side of cowell. brian: somebody with all class, shannon bream, what is at top of the hour. >> guys, i like the mean simon cowell. abby: i agree, shannon. with you on that. >> we'll hear more. first the president heading out for a speech on tax reform today. some within the gop already breaking ranks. it will not be good for middle class. we'll ask house speaker, house majority leader kevin mccarthy for that. more criticism of the white house, how they're handling puerto rico. we're talking to kellyanne conway about that and much more. isis released a video they say of their leader. we thought he was gone. was he not? we'll talk to general jack keane. a library says no thanks to the first lady when she send as gift of childrens books? we'll tell but the controversy. top of the hour. steve: most people think of simon cowell as this guy. >> you have one of the worst voices i ever heard, truthfully. it is absolutely terrible. you can't sing. abby: we love that too. "tmz" founder harvey levin is seeing a soft err side of the former king of mean. watch this. >> my favorite picture. >> it is an ultrasound. is that your son? >> yeah, eric. >> wow, the first one? >> yeah. steve: adorable. on new series on fox news channel called "objectify" by harvey levin. first guy up in hollywood. abby: hey, harvey. >> how are you, steve and abby. how are you doing? steve: we're doing okay. you see simon cowell for years now you think i know all about him but that is not the case, right? >> this kid, he is so in love with this kid and it is complicated because the kid was born during a, you know, which began with a relationship that broke up another marriage. we talk about that. and how simon is conflicted because one hand he kind of regrets what he did because he was involved with a married woman. the guy was a friend of his. on the other hand it produced a son who he loves. he talks about the conflict there. he also gets into, simon has a huge ego. and, so we, he wants this kid to be a mirror image of him. i start challenging that. abby: another simon cowell in this world. >> but it is funny because i challenge him on this. he starts to, you know, have this angst in the middle of it, thinking you're right, sometimes kids get screwed up. you see him go back and forth what he wants his kid to be. abby: re going to see a different side of simon with the new season of "idol"? the reason we love watching it he says what we're thinking but many people don't say it the way he does. >> he is unvarnished in this. he says, he talks about himself in the most real way. and that really is simon. he will talk about things unflattering about himself and flattering about himself. of listen, he failed miserably. this guy, literally had cab fare to get home when he was 30 years old, lived at his parents house. he was broke. he failed. he talks about how he succeeded. it is really, really interesting. steve: absolutely. we have a clip, look at new season of "idol." everybody has celebrity judges who are singers, does that make sense? harvey here is your sound bite with simon cowell. >> what do you think of singers judging singers? >> i don't get it. >> because it makes them insecure. >> you think madonna wants to find madonna? she wakes up tomorrow morning, i really hope the next madonna comes along and i need to do something about it. she is going, no, i want madonna to be more successful. i totally get that. so judging she is shows, whoa. >> that is big statement. >> that's true. >> what do you think of katy perry doing "idol"? >> good luck. steve: can't have a singer to judge singers. you need a judge to judge singers. abby: harvey, he hasn't changed that much. >> the reason simon is successful he is really authentic. i think you will see that here. what you haven't seen is him talking about his life, how, his feelings. how experiences along the way created this, this vision of how to change the music business, change television, and he really did. he's the guy that combined television and music. it had not been done before. and it is as big as i think, i think it is as big as the i -- ipod. abby: this makes your show so interesting, harvey. steve: great show. abby: this is the third one on fox news channel, sunday night, 9:00 p.m. eastern. only way you see them open up in a way like that. harvey, you have the ability to do. steve: thanks harvey. >> thanks a lot. steve: "fox & friends," final one for the week in two minutes. oh...sorry i'm late sir...had a doctor's appointment. so was your doctor's appointment at a steakhouse? when your t-shirt smells more like a t-bone... that's when you know it's half-washed. add downy with odor protect for 24-hour odor protection. unlike detergent alone, downy conditions fibers to lock... ...out odors all day. hey your shirt's making me hungry. so don't half-wash it. downy and it's done. speak all all right, a quick bg thank you for the flowers. if they so beautiful. >> also run to the radio, amongst our guests are chris stirewalt. >> happy friday, everyone. if you good morning, everyone. responding to the needs of florida. they are feeling the size and speed of the response. many there are waiting for help and aid. promising is that there is a lot more on the way. good morning, everyone. we are alive in the "america's newsroom." it is a special day today. >> shannon: it is a special day because it is friday. i am doing great because the weekend is almost there. president trump is mobilizing the military, on the edge of a full-blown humanitarian crisis. the pentagon is overseeing the efforts. president trump will make
aide. the press secretary says the indictments have nothing to do with president trump and his campaign. >> and executives from facebook and other social media sites set to testify on capitol hill. it comes as we learn new details about how russian metaling ahead of the 2016 elections played out. good morning, everyone. it's tuesday, october 31. i'm ayman mohyeldin alongside yasmin vossoughian and louis burgdorf. yesterday mueller ae vealreveal charges. first, former campaign chairman, paul manafort and long time deputy rick gates were charged in 12 count indictment alleging criminal conspiracy secretly acting with agents of propolitical party. laundering $75 million in payments and making false statements about activity, manafort and gates both pled not guilty and placed under house arrest on multimillion dollar bonds. spokesman for gates said this fight is just beginning. manafort's attorney spoke outside the courthouse. take a listen. >> i think you all saw it today that president trump donald trump was correct. there is no evidence that mr. manafort or the trump campaign colluded with the russian government. mr. manafort represented pro european union campaigns for the ukrainiaia ukrainian. in that he was seeking further democracy and help the ukraine come closer to the united states and eu. those@s ended in 2014. over two years before mr. manafort served in the trump campaign. the second thing about this indictment that i myself find most ridiculous is a claim that maintaining offshore accounts so bring all your funds into the united states as a scheme to conceal from the united states government is ridiculous. >> shortly before 10:30 yesterday morning the president revealed thoughts in two tweets. sorry, but this is years ago before paul manafort was part of the trump campaign. why aren't hillary and the crooked demes the focus. there is no collusion. this as is presidential counsel revealed. admitted to lying to the the fbi in russian interference in the 2016 election. pap dop louadopoulos before he foreign policy adviser to the campaign. pop dop louapadopoulos papadopo >> in truth papadopoulos learned he would be an adviser and met the professor later. the professor told papadopoulos about the e-mails on or about april 26, 2016 after he had been a foreign policy adviser to the campaign for overall r over a month. to review the timeline, that is a month after the clinton campaign chairman e-mails were hacked and nearly two months before the first dnc hack was made public and three months before president trump made this joke. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> so at the white house yesterday, press secretary sara huckabee sanders down played the position. >> can you explain what the role with the campaign was. it was extremely limited. volunteer position, and, again, no act was ever done in an official capacity on behalf of the campaign in that regard. >> but papadopoulos had exposure to top campaign officials. including the current attorney general jeff sessions and president trump himself during this national security meeting in what is now the trump hotel in washington. see that picture on your screen. one of the first officials to be named by trump adds a foreign policy adviser. >> we heard you might be announcing your foreign policy team soon. >> carter page, george papadopoul papadopoulos. he's an oil and energy consultant. >> the statement filed in court includes statements of papadopoulos making numerous contact with trump officials about facilitating meetings with russians. overseas professor introduced papadopoulos to an individual in moscow. now the filing lists multiple communications by papadopoulos in attempts to arrange a meeting between the campaign with the russian government and also alleges that after several weeks of further communications regarding potential off the record meeting with russian officials, on or about august 15, 2016, an unnamed official described as campaign supervisor told papadopoulos i would encourage you and another foreign policy adviser to the campaign to make the trip to russia if it is feasible. >> a lot to take in. sara huckabee sanders insisting the president felt vindicated by yesterday and distanced themselves from paul manafort and rick gates. take a listen. >> today's announcement has nothing to do with the president, has nothing to do with the president's campaign or campaign activity. the real scandal has everything to do with the clinton campaign, fusion, gps and russia. we've been saying since day one there's no evidence of trump/russia collusion. >> you promised to hire only the best people. is this an example of the best people to hire? >> look, this goes back to activities that took place outside of the scope of the campaign. i can't comment on anything they did. >> are these the best people to hire. >> look, the president hired paul manafort to handle the delegate process, which he did and he was dismissed not too long after that. >> reporting in the "washington post" describes president trump glued to the television set yesterday morning with several people close to the president telling the paper he was late in getting downstairs to the oval office on monday and cheered no charges against gates and manafort involving the campaign. two white house officials told nbc when the president had lunch with attorney general jeff sessions yesterday, the two did not discuss the indictment or the special counsel and members of if president's team ruled out the possibility of firing the special counsel. >> president said last week, i believe it was last week and i said several times before, there's no intention or plan to make any changes in regard to the special counsel. >> the answer to that is no, the president has not -- is not interfering with the special counsel mueller's position. he's not firing the special counsel. he said that before. >> starting today, executives from facebook, twitter and google will appear before congress regarding the attempt to interfere in the 2016 campaign. comes as we learn more information about the use of social media in the critical period leading up to the election. nbc joe lean kent has more. >> reporter: reached potentially a third of all americans. facebook saying approximately 126 million people may have been served one of their stories at some point during the two-year peri period. posts came from 120 russia backed pages. first only reached 29 million users. through likes and shares reached 126 million americans. facebook says we shut the sites down and tried to understand how they misused our platform. >> this could be the beginning of a title waive of misinformation efforts and propaganda efforts from foreign evidents. >> ban on transgender troops openly serving in the military. called military leaders off guard last july when he tweeted his intention to reverse the obama era policy accepting transgender service members. then in august, the president signed a memorandum that required all transgender troops to be discharged by march. led to a lawsuit. yesterday's decision by a federal judge to block enforcement until the case works its way through the court. wrote the ban is not genuinely based on concerns. instead driven by a desire to express approval of transgender people generally. while the injunction allows transgender troops to join the military and relist does not funding for sex reassignment surgery. tomorrow marks six weeks since hurricane maria hit puerto rico. island is still struggling to restore power. contract with white fish energy is being scrapped among investigation. investigating the decision to award a $300 million contract to the small montana energy firm with links to interior secretary ryan zinke. became a significant distraction, but the head of power authority says there was nothing illegal about the deal and replacing white fish could in fact delay power restoration by 10-12 weeks on the island. governor tells nbc news mutual aide agreements will be critical to try to restore power there. right now 30% of the island has electricity. >> plump has reportedly made a decision over who he will pick as the next chair of the federal hev v reserve. "new york times" expected to name jerome powell as the head of the central bank. announcement is expected to happen on thursday. powell will replace current chair janet yellen. powell is a leading contender to serve as the next chairman, but caution the decision isn't final yet. powell has been a fed governor since 2012 and has deep routes in republican party and financial industry. he's also supported the fed's current approach to monetary policy and financial regulation. fuelling the expectation he would bring continuity to that role. now, powell would require senate confirmation. some of his views specifically on regulation could draw opposition for conservatives who previously voted against powell's confirmation as fed governor. bowe bergdahl is due back in court after making surprise move of taking the witness stand during sentencing hearing. apologized to hearings for the troops who deserted him. broke down several times reading his statement saying he made a quote, terrible mistake in leaving adding that he was trying to do something good and it turned bad. bergdahl often detailed the harsh conditions he faced inial bannon captivity. statement marked the first time courtroom had heard from him during the proceedings also marked the openings of the defense's case. bergdahl has the potential to be sentenced to a life in prison. two time oscar winning actor kevin spacey accused of setting back gay rights comedian. just invented something that has never existed before, a bad time to come out. we're going to have more reaction. plus a check on your weather when we come back. ♪ ♪ everyone deserves attention, whether you've saved a lot or just a little. at pnc investments, we believe you're more than just a number. so we provide personal financial advice for every retirement investor. here's the story of green mountain coffee roasters sumatra reserve. let's go to sumatra. the coffee here is amazing. because the volcanic soil is amazing. so we give farmers like 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bar association. leonard steven grass ahead of the hearing this week, the aba says it's standing committee unanimously concluded with one abstention that grass is not kwufd f qualified for a judicial judge. particularly bias and lack of open mindedness. lack of strong words there. strat statement fr separate statement outlines multiple concerns, including whether he's committed. others said his behavior was gratuitously rude. he once argued lower courts should be able to overrule the superior court or abortion right decisions because abortion is to an extent, a word game. let's get a check on holiday forecast with nbc meteorologist bill karins. bill w the exception of texas, weather is looking pretty good for trick-or-treating. >> good for all the kids. nice clear skies. not bad is the big rule. remember, yesterday, huge windstorm in the northeast. couple hundred,0 thousand peopl without power. the radar is clear as can be. this afternoon is when it's going to fill up. rainfall forecast over the next two days. heaviest is corpus christi through houston. about an inch to inch and a half. if the timing is later this afternoon or evening, not what you want for the kids. here's how it looks, 7:00 a.m. this morning. clouds begin to build. remember the green is the light rain. we show you the downpours where we start to deal with areas of the yellow here. rainstorms along the stationary front. moderate to about a heavy rain risk go throughout the afternoon and evening hours. the worst of it, hit and miss. not going to be ruining anyone's halloween forecast. that's going to be good. as far as the other concerns that we're going to have, it does look like as we go throughout the afternoon evening some of these storms could be on the mild strong side. one down here to the south p. as far as the halloween forecast, don't have anything bad to show you at all. east coast looks great. west coast looks fine too. should be fantastic for the kids. >> got to give bill credit 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paying taxes and failing to register as foreign lobbyist. robert mueller's prosecutor said business partner and right hand man in the campaign rick gates earned more than $75 million from 2006 to 2015 lobbying for victor, former president of ukraine. vladimir putin's man in that position put the money on banks in island nations outside the u.s. to hide it from the government. says nothing about manafort's role in the trump campaign. lawyer calls the charges ridiculous. >> i think you all saw today that president donald trump was correct, there is no evidence that mr. manafort or the trump campaign colluded with the russian government. >> reporter: manafort and gates pleaded not guilty during a brief court appearance. judge set bail and ordered them to remain at home detention. manafort spent some of his millions on four homes in manhattan, brooklyn, long island, as well as in suburban washington dnk and accused him of spending 900,000 dollars for antique rugs. legal charges could purr swierse men to help with mueller's investigation of interference in the election. >> these men are looking at decades in prison. there's tremendous incentive for them to come to prosecutors and cooperate. >> reporter: we learned a trump campaign volunteer adviser has admitted he was in touch with the kremlin during the campaign. including thousands of e-mails. >> the reveals the trump campaign adviser was communicating with well connected russians as far back as april 2016. well before we knew the russians hacked the democrats. >> prosecutors reveal he was arrested three months ago and has been cooperating with mueller's investigations ever since. pleaded guilty three weeks ago. admitted he lied to the fbi by denying he was involved with the campaign when he communicated with the russians who wanted to set up a meeting between trump and vladimir putin during the campaign which never happened. campaign official forwarded one of his e-mails indicating the campaign was aware of what he was doing. law enforcement officials say that campaign official was paul manafort. >> thanks for that report. republican lawmakers have mostly tried to avoid answering questions about the indictment. senate judiciary committee held a news conference yesterday to discuss judicial nominations and here's what happened when nbc casey hunt tried to get them to weigh in. >> is any senator willing to take a question about manafort. >> we'll have plenty of time. since there are no more questions on this topic, we'll be glad to talk to you on a one-on-one basis in the press conference. thank you. >> plenty of time, but we got to go. >> majority leader mitch mcconnell slipped out early. chuck grassley also made a quick exit. welcome knocked over one of the flags in the process. we did get a written statement from the chairman on the senate intel committee also investigating russia. the special counsel has found a reason on criminal violations to indict two individuals. i will leave that up to the special counsel to make that determination. doesn't change anything with our investigation. special councsel. >> i'm not going to comment about our work yet. we're not done. seems to have absolutely nothing with his time on the campaign. >> does that make you confident this is a closed question about collusion. >> we're continuing our work and i'm not privy to what mr. mueller is working on. just from what i read today, didn't seem to have anything to do with his time on the campaign. >> most republican lawmakers shied away. lindsey graham did speak out when asked about the possibility of the president now firing special counsel mueller. >> i have zero concerns that mueller is in jeopardy of losing his job. i see no reason for him to be dismissed. the only reason he could do it is for cause. there was effort to do it without a good reason, there would be a price to pay. >> stemmed down from his firm yesterday. podesta and the firm faced growing scrutiny as he investigated manafort's finances. engaged the firm $1.1 million for a public relations campaign for a modern ukraine. schemed device to gain support in washington for former ukrainian president. ukraine yen. podesta told the "new york times" he decided to step down from the growing attacks from the media. well known democratic donor. brother and partner john podesta shared hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. all the news from yesterday, just learning how aggressive russia was using social media to influence the 2016 election. it comes as facebook, twitter, and google prepare to testify on capitol hill. facebook now says an estimated 126 million people received russian backed content on the website during the 2016 election. that's roughly one-third of the nation's population. revelation was made in prepared testimony by facebook general counsel calling the stretch ahead of the hearing. facebook saying 29 million americans directly received material from 80,000 posts by 120 fake russian backed pages. twitter also released alarming data as well. company identified 37,000 accounts linked to russia generated election material. that resulted in nearly 1.5 million tweets that could have appeared in the timelines of 288 million users. house republicans working to put final touches on tax plan. republicans looking at local property tax reductions in effort to get more republicans to back the bill. house chairman kevin brady original tax plan prohibited the local or state taxes from federal taxable income, but on monday brady told reports the ability to duct property taxes from federal income would be one of three deductions. americans would be able to claim under the new simplified plan. republican lawmakers are expected to meet today to resolve any remaining issues. however, senator susan collins, key republican vote, told bloomberg she does not support the elimination of the estate tax and cutting individual rate for the wealthiest americans. collins said she thinks the bill will pass hopefully with bipartisan support. >> let's switch gears and talk about defense secretary jim mattis and tillerson. both spoke in favor of the awe umf. whether congress should update and/or replace that law which was passed shortly after the september 11 attack. >> the united states has the legal authority to prosecute campaigns against the taliban, al qaeda and associated forces including isis, and is not currently seeking any new or additional congressional authorization from the use of force. the 2001 aumf remains corner stone for ongoing military operations and continues to provide legal authority relied upon to defeat the threat. >> traditional campaigns to protect our people must adapt to the reality of today's nontraditional transnational character. the 2001 and 2002 authorization to use military force remain a sound basis for ongoing u.s. military operations against a mutating threat, though a statement of continued congressional support would be welcomed and a new new aumf is not legally required to address the continuing threat posed by al qaeda, taliban and isis. >> both tillerson and mattis went on to give the community several recommendations if congress decides to write a new aumf legislation. that includes not having geographic or time constraints. >> mattis and tillerson also told the committee the administration does not have congressional authorization to use military force against north korea outside of a direct or imminent threat. president can in vehicvoke arti two. imminent threat would be a fact based decision that would depend on all circumstances. let's talk about that. joining us live from london. matt bradley, it's good to talk to you this morning. of course coming as president trump gears up for first asia trip. indictment yesterday and testimony there mattis and trir tillerson. >> with 12 days and five countries on the schedule, will be the longest foreign trip since he took office. every stop is going to be north korea the main topic of conversation. both america's allies and rivals are desperately looking for any indication of a coherent u.s. policy on the korean peninsula. comments by secretary mattis that you just mentioned, likely to go a small way towards easing the anxiety. most asian leaders blame kim jong-un for the escalating tensions and bellicose rhetoric. a lot of concern about his president and unguarded comments on the situation, whether on public or twitter. asian leaders will be pleased to hear there is some limits on the president's authority to declare war. real story today is china and south korea agreed to end the dispute. so the u.s. had deployed this so-called terminal high altitude defense or thatd in may. the chinese said the system could be used to spy on chinese defenses and diplomatic that for a while looked like it might complicate efforts to close ranks around north korea. latest taunt, donald trump may see a more unified, more confident group of asian leaders. that would be a rare bit of good foreign policy news for this embattled president. >> we'll certainly billie watch matt bradley, thank you. charged on a 2012 attack in benghazi which left four americans, including ambassador chris stevens dead. 46-year-old who reports was a key player in the attack was captured by special forces on libya's north coast. now transported back here to the united states. in a statement, president trump says in part, on my orders, united states forces capture d n libya. to families of fallen heros, i want you to know your loved ones are not forgotten. memory is deep and reach is long. we will not rest in efforts to find and bring perpetrators of this heinous attack in benghazi to justice. second person charged in connection with the attack. other was captured back in 2014 and pleaded not guilty to multiple charges. in fact, his trial begins earlier this month. still ahead, they may be gone, but shows these celebs they still have earning power in the after life. who 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"morning joe" starts right now. there is no hesitation. one of the great memories of all time, there was no hesitation. >> i'm not sure that the president recalls specific details of the meeting. again, it was a brief meeting that took place quite some time ago. >> interesting t. president remembers his conversation with a war widow like it was yesterday. but things get a little more hazy when trying to recall his meeting with a former adviser who communicated with the russians about getting dirt on hillary clinton. >> but it was one of his top advisers. that's what i don't understand. he talked to the washington post, willie. we all remember that, because it was probably the first time a presidential candidate and editorial interview talked about his hand as much as donald trump talked about the size of his hands, but when they asked about his foreign policy advisers, boom, right at the top of the list. >> called him an excellent guy,
>> no democratic presidential candidate, not one has won north dakota in over half a century. 53 years ago president lyndon johnson won north dakota in 1964, and that was the year after the assassination of president john f. kennedy when lyndon johnson was winning in a landslide. president kennedy himself lost north dakota to richard nixon in 1960, and it wasn't close. it's never close in north dakota. in presidential elections. donald trump beat hillary clinton in north dakota by 36 points. take a look at that. look at that store. 63-27. that's north dakota voting. that is the reason president trump invited north dakota democratic senator heidi heitkamp to dinner tonight at the white house. 36 points. and those 36 points are the reason that heidi heitkamp accepted the dinner invitation. senator heitkamp won her election to the senate in north dakota in 2012 by exactly one point. donald trump won her state by 36 points. politically, heidi heitkamp can't afford to turn down a dinner invitation from this white house. not when she represents a state filled with trump voters. it is hard being a democrat in north dakota, especially in the age of trump. and it is hard being a democrat in west virginia and indiana. it is hard for a democrat to win a statewide election in those states. the three democratic senators from those states were invited to dinner at the white house tonight. heidi heitkamp along with joe donnell, indiana, joe manchin of west virginia, they are the only three democratic senators who did not sign senate democratic leader chuck schumer's letter to republican leader mitch mcconnell and to president donald trump outlining the democrats' principles for tax reform, which was the suggest on the table tonight at the white house. three republicans joined the table -- senator john thune of south dakota, pat toomey of south carolina. and the senior member of the delegation, utah's orrin hatch, who is also the chairman of the senate finance committee where the tax bill will actually be written that dining table tonight was not the place where a tax deal was going to get done, if the republicans can get a tax deal done. the president couldn't possibly get a commitment of support for a tax bill tonight by any of the three democrats because there is no bill for them to support yet. no bill at all. the dinner at the white house tonight was mostly for the people who were not there. the voters of west virginia and indiana and north dakota, where each one of those democratic senators are up for reelection next year. the president and the republicans want to put as much pressure as possible on those democratic senators to vote for whatever the republican tax bill is going to be. and the republicans need trump voters in those states to exert that pressure on those three democratic senators. senator joe manchin issued this statement tonight after the dinner. "i was glad to join the president tonight to discuss how we can work together in a bipartisan manner on tax reform. we had a productive conversation about areas of agreement as well as areas where we will have to find compromise. i will continue to fight for a simpler tax code that lowers rates for west virginians and incentivizes main street businesses to invest and grow in america." now, if you stop there, if senator manchin stopped there, everything that senator manchin said, all of that generality is something that every senator from both parties could agree with. but senator manchin did not stop there. he did add one specific deal point. "but we must do this without adding to our staggering debt." if joe manchin votes against the republican tax bill, it will be because it adds to our staggering debt, and republicans writing a tax bill that doesn't add to our staggering debt is virtually impossible. we have been here before. a republican president pushing tax cuts with democratic senators from republican states feeling that pressure. when president george w. bush pushed tax cuts in 2001 and 2003, kent conrad was serving as north dakota's democratic senator. kent conrad voted against both of the bush tax cuts, and he was doing that about ten years after voting for the bill clinton tax increases. and through it all kent conrad was re-elected in north dakota, sometimes with over 60% of the vote. no one understands the pressures on those three democrats sitting at that white house dining table tonight better than kent conrad. and joining us now, former democratic senator from north dakota, kent conrad, former chairman of the senate budget committee and a former member of the senate finance committee. and when i saw those invitations go out, senator, i thought of you. i thought well, if kent conrad was in the senate and trump had won by 36 points in north dakota, he'd probably be getting one of those invitations. what would you have done? would you have gone to this dinner? >> absolutely. first of all, i think anyone, any sitting senator who is invited to the white house by a president of either party should go, because it's a chance to influence the outcome. and besides, it's also good manners. you know, when george bush -- george w. bush, bush 43 was elected for the second time, the first trip he made was to north dakota to push his social security package. he asked me to go with him on air force one. and i readily accepted. now i didn't believe in his social security package. in fact, at the venue, i made clear that i thought there were very serious problems with it. but i thought it's an obligation if the president asks you to go to your state, you go. and i think that's a smart thing to do because you can have an impact possibly. you might influence the outcome. and also, it's just good manners. >> and we saw senator heitkamp do that, travel on air force one to north dakota with president trump. president trump called her out at the rally. but no commitments, just like you and president bush on social security. when the bush tax cuts were done, the first round of the tax cut, they actually got three democratic votes in the senate on the first round of bush tax cuts. on the second round -- i'm sorry, the first round of bush tax cut, 12 democratic senate votes. the second round of bush tax cuts, three senate votes. getting democratic senators to vote for republican tax cuts is not something new. it is actually likely. >> yes, it is. but i would say this to you, lawrence. it's hard to know with president trump what he might do. it's entirely possible, like he just did with senator schumer, that he crosses over and makes an agreement with democrats. and i think democrats would be ready to agree to a tax bill if it didn't explode the debt, but it did reduce middle class taxes and went after some of these offshore tax havens and abusive tax shelters there is lots of room there. there is lots of revenue there that could be used to reduce middle class taxes. >> well, that would be if you followed the reagan model that was genuine tax reform where one of the principles was we will not increase the deficit. we will not add to the debt. so when we cut a tax rate, we must eliminate a tax loophole so that the revenue stays the same. and doing that, reagan got 33 democratic votes in the senate. >> absolutely he did. you know, lawrence, that's what makes your show good. you've actually got historic memory of what happened in prior agreements and what might happen in a new circumstance. >> joe manchin's line tonight, senator, leapt out at me when he said that part about, of course, he wouldn't support anything that exploded our debt. now, do you think this is a term of art there? does he mean you can't increase the debt at all? you can't increase the deficit at all? it has to be revenue neutral? and the other two senator, including senator heitkamp did not say that in their statements after the fact. they just issued generalities with no specifics. >> you know, senator heitkamp did make reference to not expanding the debt. it was unclear if that was a reference to the national debt or the debt of individual taxpayers. but she did reference the debt. you know, this is a day when the gross debt of the united states reached $20 trillion. we're going to run deficits this year of hundreds of billions of dollars. and if the budget plan outlined earlier is actually adopted with huge tax cuts and big increases in spending on defense and infrastructure, and of course now disaster aid, you could see an absolute explosion of the debt, which would be an incredible mistake at a time when economic times are good. you can understand expansions of deficit and debt when times are bad. we generally don't see expansions of deficit and debt when times are good. and these are extraordinarily good times historically. >> senator, what would you say to heidi heitkamp with your knowledge of the politics of north dakota and what she is facing in a possible republican tax cut bill coming her way, since you went through this yourself a couple of times? >> well, i would say to her, look, if it is a tax cut bill that is really aimed at the middle class, that's not a giveaway to the wealthiest among us, that really don't need any tax relief, and one that is -- covers the lost revenue by shutting down these abusive tax havens and these offshore tax shelters. by the way, if you ever want to do an interesting exercise, google offshore tax shelters. see what you get. it's really quite remarkable. i did it one time. i got a million hits on offshore tax shelters. it's really a whole world that many of us don't know exists. >> chairman -- former chairman of the senate budget committee, always a chairman to me, kent conrad, thank you very much for joining us tonight, senator. really appreciate it. >> you bet. good to be with you. >> we're joined now by senior editor at the new republic. also joining us is ken vogel, a reporter for "the new york times." ken, we saw these statements coming out of the dinner tonight where joe manchin very, very specific about debt. heidi heitkamp, as ken conrad pointed out a little unclear what she said it. nothing really from senator donnelly, just a general it was a very nice dinner. what do you make of this dinner tonight? >> there is no doubt that it's significant, lawrence. it doesn't take a whole lot of democratic support in the senate in particular to form a new coalition that could potentially pass legislation even as there may be republican holdouts, tax reform obviously is one, that republicans had been advocating for and that trump had been excited about for some time. but you see why a senator like heidi heitkamp or joe donnelly might be persuadable in a situation like this. trump, i think, that was the import, that was the significance really of the debt ceiling deal with pelosi and schumer was not necessarily the actual what was in the four corners of the deal, which now mitch mcconnell is suggesting wasn't as significant as perhaps trump and schumer and pelosi let on, but rather that trump was willing to reach across the aisle after not having a whole lot of luck working with just republicans to pass health care. >> and jit, there is a conceptual flaw we saw in the meeting tonight. and that is the democrats, if the notion that you could reach over across the aisle and make a deal with the democrats, the democrats cannot bring up a tax bill. they don't have any procedural rights in the senate to even bring up the bill. they cannot bring it through the senate finance committee. only orrin hatch can do that. they can't have a markup of the bill. not to mention the fact that the only parliamentary procedure in the united states constitution is that all tax legislation must begin in the house of representatives. and so there is no one from the real congressional tax world really sitting at that table tonight. >> that's exactly rite. and i think that gives sort of lie to this idea that there can be any sort of cooperation. i mean trump is facing a real problem in the sense that he should be getting his way on a lot of things. he has a unitary government. but the republicans can't deliver what he wants. so he is looking for other options. but i mean, like, i think that the hurdles are strong enough that it's not going to happen. >> ken, one of strategic problems is if you're donald trump and you're sitting there thinking hey, can i make a tax deal with democrats, the answer is you can, be you can't include virtually any of the elements that we've heard about from what the republicans are talking about. you can't cut the corporate rate as low as they want to cut it. you cannot eliminate the deductibility of state and local taxes, which would be a wipeout and a huge tax increase for taxpayers in california, new york, and other states. there is every single thing that we have heard about that is in the trump plan and the republicans' plan is something so far unacceptable to democrats. >> yeah, i mean, those three things that you just ticked off are anathema to democrats. that said, in north dakota where heidi heitkamp is going to be up for reelection, she is going to have to with trump voters. there are elements that could be made more palatable to her. i'm not suggesting it would be a deal with the democrats writ large and chuck schumer, but rather that it would be something, that they could find something that would be less objectionable to some of these democrats from red states that could potentially win their support, even as there may be republicans who would peel off. >> but jeet, it's hard to think of the bill in which you can reach around john mccain, around susan collins and pick up someone who is to the left. i mean these senators, as moderate or conservative as they are as democrats, they all are to the left of john mccain and susan collins, right? >> exactly right. >> so you're somehow going to reach people who are to the left of john mccain and susan collins. if you were doing that and holding on to john mccain and susan collins, you don't need these democrats, because they're talking about doing this in reconciliation. you don't need them. >> that's exactly right, yeah, yeah. the thing is if you can't hold the republicans together, how you bringing out democrats and making it different? i don't see how it adds up. it just -- i mean i think it's a move born of desperation more than anything else. >> there are two completely different approaches in tax legislation in washington. one is democrat. one is republican there is no such thing as an independent approach there is no middle there. trump is going to have to go one way or the other. and there is only one way procedurally where you can actually move the bill, and that's with the speaker of the house and the republicans in the house of representatives. >> if nothing else, it plants a seed of doubt in the minds of republican leaders, certainly, and maybe even democratic leaders. >> but ken, you can't plant the seed of doubt in paul ryan's mind who knows that it has to begin in the house ways and means committee and he has to approve the whole thing for to it move. he can't trick paul ryan into thinking he doesn't have the parliamentary control over this. we've got squeeze in a break here. jeetheer thank you very much, for joining us. reports that asking him to restore russian diplomatic regulations immediately after the inauguration. why would they think something like that? and robert mueller has hired so be investigators to add to his team that republicans believe that it's almost inevitable that that team is going to find something. flooding and power outages continue to be major problems in at ally, we offer low-cost trades and high-yield savings. but if that's not enough, we offer innovative investing tools to prepare you for the future. looks like you hooked it. and if that's not enough, we'll help your kid prepare for the future. don't hook it kid. and if that's still not enough, we'll help your kid's kid prepare for the future. looks like he hooked it. we'll do anything... takes after his grandad. seriously anything, to help you invest for the future. ally. do it right. flooding and power outages continue to be major problems in the southeast as the remnants of hurricane irma continue to move north. more than six million people are without power in florida, georgia, south carolina, alabama, and tennessee. and at least 13 deaths have now been reported in the united states, according to fema estimates, a quarter of all homes in the florida keys were destroyed, and another 65% suffered major damage. emergency workers spent most of the day doing door to door -- going door to door to account for the 7 to 10,000 people who did not evacuate. everyone has not been accounted for. today the white house announced president trump will travel to florida thursday to survey the damage. it's possible the president might also visit the u.s. virgin islands within the next week. hurricane survivors in the u.s. virgin islands described the devastation there as apocalyptic. fema officials toured the islands of st. thomas and st. john today. officials will be on the islands for a long time. we are joined now from st. croix in the u.s. virgin islands by stacey plaskett. she is the u.s. virgin islands delegate to the house of representatives. congresswoman plaskett, thank you very much for joining us on this difficult night. i just want to lay out the geography of the area for people. it's -- we're talking about three islands -- st. thomas, st. john and you're on st. croix that we see on the map. that's about 30 miles or 50 miles south of st. john. and st. croix was not hurt badly by the hurricane. that correct? >> that's correct. because irma hit us from the northern part, and we had a direct hit of the hurricane while it was a category 5, it went across st. john and touched the northern part of st. thomas directly before it carried on to the rest of the caribbean. so st. croix, which sits 40 miles south of st. thomas and st. john did not get the same amount of hit from hurricane irma. >> and talk about the two islands that did get hurt. st. john was hit as the hurricane moved, it was hit first. that's the smaller of the two islands. relatively small population. small commercial development there. st. thomas is the big one. that's only a few miles away. that's where most of the u.s. virgin islands population is. talk about the way both islands have been impacted. >> sure. you know, i was able to be on the ground for several days on st. thomas. coast guard were able to bring me in immediately after. and what you see on st. thomas is major damage to not only homes and to individuals and families, but also to much of our major infrastructure. we've lost our hospital, the roof of the hospital came off. windows were blown out, et cetera. government houses, our airport, the terminal looks as if the grenades were put inside, and they were blown up from the inside. also, the -- our air traffic control, schools, firehouses, et cetera, complete loss. also on st. john, which you're correct, has a small population, which took an enormous hit, much of our resorts are now gone from there. kaneel bay. we have trump bay where so many tourists come to st. john. but also the population there is even more isolated. you cannot get airport there's. so we've spent a lot of time with fema, the coast guard and others who have been extraordinary in working with our governor and with our local emergency management system to clear debris out of the ports so that we can begin the ability to get from the island of st. croix, which has now become the base camp for not only u.s. virgin islands but for other islands as well to get support back and forth. while the government is working with fema, with the department of defense, the navy has brought in three ships, and we have marines that are on the ground. there are also private businesses, ferries, guys with fast boats, men and women who are working to ensure that relief gets to people on the islands -- food, water you. hear the phrase "water, water, everywhere, not a drop to drink." so of course water is vital to us, being on an island, as well as the support services. we're going to have to be thinking long-term about the power, which is going to take an extraordinary amount of time to get up. our water and power authority have been working nonstop. we found out today that we had another loss of life. one of the linemen trying to restore power for vital services lost his life to working on the line this evening. and so we're continuing to experience losses, but we're also working and trying to be the resilient people that we are. >> congresswoman plaskett, there is so much to talk about. i just want to cover one more point before we go. the devastation we're seeing includes everything. obviously includes schools and the entire school system of the -- of those two islands. what are the -- and here we are at the beginning of a school year. what happens to kids in st. thomas, kids in st. john with the school year coming? what can you offer? >> well, you know, we faced this before during hurricane irma -- i'm sorry, hurricane hugo in 1989, hurricane marilyn in 1995. that's why many of our structures met code. and we're ready for a cat-4, but couldn't a category 5 impact hit. but the government made announcements about families bringing their families over to st. croix. also we have a huge virgin islands population that are in the united states in areas like houston and miami, new york, atlanta, washington, d.c., maryland, virginia area. and many individuals will be bringing their children up to the united states to do that. there are some schools which say hold on. we're going try and bring generation and bring power. st. croix will open up their homes. we're all one family for those students as well. and we're going to try and work on that. but threw is going to be needs. there is going to have to be transportation for these young people to get to those families that are in states, for families that are not able to afford the plane ticket. there is going to have to be temporary schools that are created, potentially on cruise ships and others that will allow young people to continue to learn. and there is also going to be for those students that move to the states, we live on a tropical island. so boots, hats, gloves, coats are another thing that we're going to have to think about when they're moving with those families there. >> congresswoman stacey plaskett, thank you very much for bringing us the human detail of what's happening there. really difficult situation. really appreciate your time. >> and lawrence, we're so grateful that you are opening up the news to us so that people can see us as americans and what we're going through. and remember us when we're looking about hurricane relief. thank you. >> thank you very much. coming up, reports about russians using facebook to organize an anti-immigration rally during the 2016 campaign. that now which we reported on last night has the attention of the senate intelligence committee. as we reported last night, (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything so we know how to cover almost anything. even a swing set standoff. and we covered it, july first, twenty-fifteen. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ my frii say not if you this protect yourself.ary. what is scary? 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>> they're going to find that facebook went from hosting russian active measures online to essentially laundering active measures in right leaf. >> laundering you said? >> you might as well say that. facebook acknowledged to us that these events were not simply things that bots did, not simply things that false accounts put up, but things that they took money for. that's what this promoted event means. this was paid. whether facebook has, as senator warner said, been fully forthright with the senate intelligence committee and others, it's looking more and more doubt. certainly it's looking like they have vastly more questions than they've answered. >> and what is the venue you expect? do you expect a public hearing now is what you're getting, what you're hearing from senator warner? they will have whether it be mark zuckerberg or facebook official there's explaining exactly what they did? >> i think it's pretty clear that facebook, whatever form they've had the answer questions right now, the senate intelligence committee does not consider that sufficient, that it's -- i can't say that i know that a public hearing is going to happen, but it's looking more likely than not at this point. >> malcolm nance, let me get your reaction to both of these reports. first of all, what we're learning about facebook, and then the notion that vladimir putin believe head had the president he wanted and shortly after the inauguration, could have a full reset, drop all sanctions against russia, get things back to the old normal with the united states. >> well, let's take point number two. this has been vladimir putin's strategic objective by helping put donald trump into office all along. this is no secret to anyone who has been following the trump russia operation over the last year. the cia, fbi, nsa all said that, you know, the objective was to get donald trump into the presidency for the purpose of resetting russian relations and of course creating chaos and removing hillary clinton from the political scene. that's all happened. with regards to facebook, they're just another component of the russian active measures during this entire campaign. i mean, russia technically virtually marionetting american citizens. i've had that happen to myself on twitter where russian intelligence actually used a twitter feed to come out and tell american citizens that someone who was supposedly in denver, colorado, was going to assassinate me at a very high profile conference. that is a form of intelligence manipulation of american citizens. and it's the next step of operations, that it started last year is no surprise. >> spencer? >> yeah, to take a point that malcolm made really aptly. you'll remember that toward the end of the obama administration, james clapper, the former director of national intelligence, started to in public briefings on the hill talk about cybersecurity as a more elevated concern than terrorism. one of the points that he would frequently make was at some point the intelligence committee figured they were going to move from an exfiltration model, that is adversaries taking data from secured websites or from someone's servers and so forth, and they were to start moving into not just data exploitation, but data manipulation. >> right. >> that the data that you encounter online is not necessarily going to be true. what we are now seeing facebook talk about and what we're now seeing facebook yet to discuss, but our reporting as well as others are showing happened was that's basically the model going forward. from this active measure stuff. you saw these really disgusting anti-immigrant islamophobic rallies promoted through facebook. that's an effort to move even further from manipulated data, from false information disseminated widely online, to getting people in the united states who don't know who is really putting this information out there to actually do something. >> malcolm, quickly, before we get to a break here, when the obama administration came out and started publicly talking about interference with the camp -- what was then the campaign, what should facebook and some of these other companies have done? should they have listened to that and at least had meeting saying what do we think our role in this might be? >> well, certainly they should have done something much, much sooner than we've seen. because they took very active operations against isis and al qaeda and islamic jihadists almost without asking. but when it came to this manipulation of the virtual world, manipulation of social media to the point where they were changing reality for american citizens, i mean, they should have realized that their platform was no longer an information gathering or an information sharing platform, but had been weapon niced into a foreign intelligence and governments system to manipulate american systems. and it continues right to this minute. >> malcolm nance and spencer ackerman, thank you both for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> pleasure. coming up, lawyers are actually warning white house staff directly do not lie to investigators for the president. 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>> well, it's awfully good advice, lawrence. because lying to a federal agent whose conducting an investigation is enough to get you your own personal ticket to federal prison. none of these witnesses want to be converted from witnesses to subjects or targets of this investigation. their best way of maintaining their status as witness is to continue to tell investigators the truth, to produce documents, to not withhold material information, to answer questions honestly. prosecutors love to say that it's the cover-up that hangs people up. and that's true time and time again in these public corruption investigations. >> and ken, i think you and i know that there are a lot of politicians over the years who really you would have to say that to their staffs because their staffs love them, devoted to them, and were with them for many years and could feel like maybe it's not lying if they're just trying to shade the truth and the favor of the politician. but this white house is the leakiest white house we have ever seen. it almost seems like the trump staff does not need the warning to tell the truth about donald trump under oath because they seem to be telling the dark truths to "the new york times" and you guys and the "washington post" almost every day. >> yeah, that's right, lawrence. it's not just the leaking, it's also the infighting and there are concerns among the trump legal team that prosecutors and the special counsel will use these riffs and fissures between the staff that have been long been festering to essentially pit the staffers against each other and other trump associates against one another to use something they might get from someone staffer or one associate to leverage something more out of another associate. this, my sources tell me, has led to some dissent within trump's legal team about how to handle this. dissent about pace of document production. seeing the tensions play themselves out in a legal defense in a way that's extremely unhelpful for the president and his team. >> joyce, this point that ken made sounds hugely important, for example, the special prosecutor by reading the pain e watching tv, knows steve bannon hates jared kushners is doing everything he can to hurt jared kushner. they are investigating jared kushner. does the special prosecutor's team go, shouldn't -- do they think we should be talking to steve bannon specifically about jared kushner? >> i would suspect that the special counsel's team will talk to everyone about everything and by that i mean they'll talk to all of the available witnesses to get their view of what happened. and then they'll see how those versions line up. and it will be the outlier versions, the details that don't match up. if nine people are in agreement and one person is saying something different, something that, perhaps, is more beneficial to the administration, those people become the littlest zebras, the witnesses that mueller will cull out of the herd because if they have exposure for corruption or perjury or false statements, themselves, it may be possible to flip them and have them testify as to what really happened here. >> and ken, there are reports indicating the really decisive conversations about firing james comey which may be the single-most important area of the investigation in the end occurred in new jersey on a weekend when steve bannon wasn't there. and that ivanka trump was there. steve miller was there. and that might be the spot where the special prosecutor really wants to penetrate, but in terms of jared kushner and ivanka trump, for example, you can't have a spouse testify against another spouse so that might be a tricky one. >> yeah, that's right. it does get to the key point that the former u.s. attorney raised which is that it becomes about obstruction, it becomes about the cover-up. obviously the firing of comey is the key piece of that cover-up, but even the discussions that led up to that firing are critical to establishing the case and to potentially establishing that someone has misrepresented what went on. that's the area that comey is really honing in on according to everyone who i've talked to about this. >> joyce vance, ken vogel, thank you both for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thanks, lawrence. >> thank you. tonight's "last word" is next and it is a "last word" about the most important new bill on the democratic side of the senate. what powers the digital world. communication. that's why a cutting edge university counts on centurylink to keep their global campus connected. and why a pro football team chose us to deliver fiber-enabled broadband to more than 65,000 fans. and why a leading car brand counts on us to keep their dealer network streamlined and nimble. businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink. what bad back?gels work so fast you'll ask what pulled hammy? 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