it was with the turkey thing me. now she s got a secret. yeah at that point. at that point? the, yes that because tanya could not just leave it there. the next time, she admitted something very, very shocking. and tanya said, well we did it the old-fashioned way. james and marie had sex which, told tanya told the ladies, was okay with her. and as months passed and marie started showing, there was a baby shower. but not for marie, this baby shower it was for tanya. she put a balloon under her shirt as a funny photo with marie. but if the story came out, it could threaten everything that she had built in the past. and as i got more, and more, and more into weird stuff. it was just that the stakes got higher?
and he came directly from marie when she went to visit jeff shortly after getting pregnant. i put my head on her stomach and i said, what s going on with this? and she wasn t really showing. and her story at that time was, while i m just being assertive so we did a type of artificial insemination. well, well, well. the pastor was the sperm donor. in this new story, marie s gift was to be the pastors artificially s surrogate. but why the conflict of stories? to find, out the detectives consulted three special church ladies. tanya flanders closest confidence. we call them the inner circle. and the inner circle said, yes, tanya told them. but swore them to secrecy. but then, tanya gave up a little more. the method was really homemade. i remember them saying, oh
or their homegrown version of it. tanya told detectives she understood the bargain very well. i ve always seen a relationship as sex is not a relationship. a relationship is to people coming together. and sex is just a bonus. a very secret bonus, of course. kept from almost everyone. but inside the bubble of their relationship, tanya said, they were happy. she goes, you know what? i am so glad that you are going to be raising grace. she said, i m so glad that i m gonna be able to do that with you. and i thought, you know, how cool is that? but then. then marie gave birth, and it wasn t cool for marie, not anymore. and certainly not adoption. every time we started to broach the subject with her, she did get withdrawn. so, maybe tanya would not get baby grace?
said i mr.. i was pretty devastated. i was in that backyard in 2012. not like you didn t look. yeah, but, you know human nature. you still have the guilt. the feeling of i could ve found her. six months after she was reported missing. the pastor insisted that tanya was around. we shopping. knew nothing. did you ever get her buried before tanya came back? oh, yeah. yeah. do you wonder whether tanya had more to do with this? i think that will always be in the back of our minds. that, you know. i think she may have known more than she wants to see. but tanya was never charged at her defense attorney said she was truly shocked by james s confession. i can tell you as a matter of fact, i m having to tell her what happened, she did not know. later that afternoon, nesli escorted james flanders into
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