cenk, what i m talking about is you have people working within the obama administration who were there during the bush administration, case in point secretary of defense robert gates, and so that s why i m trying to get away from, you know, president obama gets credit or president bush gets credit. there are people, men and women within the government who span both administrations who worked their puts off to get this done and they got it done. cenk, could i say we have to end on that note. i do think president obama now has political capital and the space to begin to draw down this war in afghanistan. it s that neutralization of that the sillyness about being soft on terror, which could come to an end. i hear you guys, jonathan, don t get me wrong, i to give him credit for picking gates. it depends on the issue. we ll be right back. [ female announcer ] you have all this chicken.
i m looking at it, not so much who should get credit, but i think we re looking at men and women across two administrations who worked day and night to find this guy, and to either capture or kill him. in this case he was killed. in that case if i were asked that question, i would ask for a different question, you know, do i think that the federal government that both administrations deserve a pat on the back for this? ened i would have to say yes. i do think but cenk, wait a minute, here s the thing let me finish my thought, but here s why i say no to that. you have an administration that took us into a war on a pretext of weapons of mass destruction. you have an administration, the bush administration, which put innocent lives into battle for a lie, and that must be remembered, and they exploited fear as the master narrative through a global war on terror.
america anymore. that s what the paul ryan plan says. that s not what it does. the reason we have medicare is there s no private market for seniors, for people sick and elderly. he s going to give them vouchers and say fend for yourself. that s ma medicare said we re not going to do. ernie, i want to it s a sharp responsibility. ernie, let me. let me answer the question, yang. it s cenk. i understand, we would all like to get there. so that it s sustainable and won t go bankrupt and it doesn t have to go bankrupt. if the republicans didn t yell about death panels last year when president obama was actually proposing, and thank god you keep containinging the subject. hold on, guys. i m going to change the subject. guy, guys, listen. hold on. everybody bring it down. ernie, listen, first of all you re saying for people under 55 we have to ked medicare
we ve got to change it if we want to make it something that will endure. i want to ask you about the politics. you can spin it any way you like, but the republicans are in a world of trouble. down in florida, in pennsylvania, some of the districts are heavily senior citizens, and you can spin it and spin it. good luck to you. it s a political challenge. is there some chance that ryans s plan will actually get voted down. what would you rather hayank it s cenk. i m asking you are they going to vote for the ryan plan or not? well, we re going to find out within the next 24 hours. i will it be unanimous, no. joan, last question to you.
you for your time tonight. pleasure, cenk. were our con job of the day up next. he tells the media to take a bat to a 76-year-old woman. we ll tell you why that is disastrous. hey susie, why don t you use this ? it s got a calculator. thanks, dad. this is the neighborhood. you get elm street and you get main street. thank you. and that s just the first quarter. so you want a slide in your office ? or monkey bars, either one.