children, but right now we have a disagreement over the payment issue and we're hoping to get that resolved through the courts and get back to really focusing on the needs of these children who can't speak for themselves. we are here to really help speak up for what they need. >> well, and we will follow the case. kathy graham, thanks so much and, carl, final thought before we go. how have these kids changed your life? >> they've really changed our lives. we love them dearly. like i said, we raised a family previously, but now -- raising children now is a lot different and it's made me a little younger. >> well, i love it. your daughter's laughing behind you. you're quite an inspiration and your family's beautiful. carl and girls, thank you so, so much. we'll follow up on what happens. >> thank you very much. >> you bet. the wind up, the pitch and the half minute that could
and just the gas situation and things like that, to cut from them, i think would be a travesty. >> it's hard to see you take on something that you don't even have to do and it just seems so unfair that you have to lose that financial support. carl, do me a favor, stay with me, you and the girls stay with me because we want to talk about coming up next and that's where kathy graham comes into play and she's the executive director of the indiana association of child care agencies and kathy, i'm going to want to know what your group is going to do about these cuts. i'm going get you to answer that in just a second.
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