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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:45:00

after the dogs, and the dog crate were loaded into the van, she drove back out past the guards, pass the barbed wire. fearing what would happen next. and hoping a little that it would not. and i did say, john are you in there? and he did not answer. and i thought, oh thank god. he is not in there. and i ll just go to a dog adoption. and we don t have to do this thing. and then i heard this laugh. and i thought, oh crap, he is in there. and i pulled over, and i just stopped. and then he popped his arm out of the box that was in the crate. and said drive! toby drive! they traveled at night. mostly on backcountry roads. but then, just 15 minutes from their hideaway. they got lost and toby saw a sign of manard she had never seen before. he said, you know, i don t know why i brought you along if you could not figure out directions. and he was upset, and he was

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:47:00

they passed the days playing cards and board games. and romantic dinners by candlelight, they made plans to make identities and start a new life. perhaps in boston. but it wasn t meant to be. they made a mistake in their plan. a big one. remember, toby had given the car dealer her hideaway address in tennessee. this is the definition of almost a dumb criminal. no offense. that s right, it turns out i wasn t a very good criminal i think. and apparently not that good at hiding either. in disguise, they snuck into town from time to time. to eat at a steakhouse, buy a guitar for maynard. and then finally, to see a movie and buy a gps at the mall. the same mall where u.s. marshall, jason lamb, spotted their truck. the first thing i notice is there is a police car blocking the entrance ramp to the highway. and i said, wow, there must be some wreck up ahead or something. and john said, oh baby. this is for us. this is all for us. john manard realizes that

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:01:00

you see this truck my gut feeling was telling me it was them. i said this is our guy. this sounds like one of those fast and furious car chases. i was terrified that they were going to get killed. very wild story. so many twists and turns. nerve wracking. shocking. it is unbelievable. hello and welcome to dateline. when convicted killer john manard escape from prison authorities feared he would go to any lengths to evade capture, then a horrifying discovery, prison volunteer toby young was missing. a wife and mother now at the mercy of this desperate man. but, was toby in danger or was

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:40:00

often make sense. you heard it right, toby says that this is a love story. she says that she first noticed john manard about a year and a half earlier as she was walking across the prison yard. he was walking straight at me, and he stuck out his hand and said hi, i m john. i wanted to be your next dog handler! he soon joined her program. nothing happened between them, until about a year later. when manard came to toby s rescue. she was being threatened by an inmate who had cornered her. i was terrified. and then i saw john manard swaggering up. from behind this inmates that was accosting me. and i felt this sense of relief, because i thought, oh, now here comes somebody that will help me. toby started spending more time around manard who was 20 years younger. we would have these really deep conversations about life and the world.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:53:00

motion. i couldn t hear anything. it was this weird kind of vortex i was in. i couldn t hear anything, and there are sirens everywhere. i looked over at john and he was talking, but i couldn t hear him. he cut left and shot across the median. and then we all turned, and everybody went across the median. he passed a semi truck on the shoulder but the wheels went off into the grass. when he came back on the pavement he lost control of the truck. that s the truck on dash cam video, swerving off the road. now they were heading towards a three at 100 miles per hour. i was praying the whole time, please god, just let me die when we hit that tree because i can t deal with all of this. but they didn t crash. saplings slowed their momentum

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