resolve that problem but if the penalty isn't great and penalty isn't large, you're still going to find a lot of people gaming the system. that goes on in massachusetts right now which has that individual mandate. rick: it is an important subject. again a bipartisan concern that people with preexisting conditions be able to get access to affordable health care. it is a story we'll continue to follow. i hope you talk more with us about it. happy 4th of july to you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. arthel: rick, there is a new study raising concerns for parents about what their kids are doing on summer break. the u.s. substance abuse and mental health services administration found june and july are prime months for teens to try drugs, alcohol and cigarettes for the first time, or to escalating drinking smoking and using marijuana and other drugs. bringing in lee vinokur. dr. vinokur is adjunct assistant professor at lsu health center, science