amongst black males. and it's because of that economic policy. they just wanted the government to get out of the way and give them the tools in the sense of removing the regulation so they can support their families and a lot of us believe that. >> ainsley: well, tim scott is responsible for the opportunity and help so many people. >> lawrence: ron desantis is actually going after as well with the first step act. i mean, it's just nonsense what is going on. anyway, carley, you have some headlines. >> carley: i certainly do. we will start with a story we have been following. the new york city man accused of fatally stabbing a convict punched him on the subway breaks his silence in the case. jordan williams told the "new york post," quote: it's scary. i will tell you that nothing i ever want to experience again when which is all over. it's a terrible situation. but i am trying to get through it. williams faces a manslaughter charge. he says hechchnd reconnecting ws faith as he is free on bail. a california supermarket now
at least give ushe a running start when a criminal napsycho enters the subway our phones should be beeping like an amber alert. perhaps prompted by the perps ankle bracelet. set a violation of his right to privacy? you have already violated our right to live. so go leyourself. sorry ralph. some of us are lucky enough never to be in ait situation where we must choose between saving lives in a manslaughter charge but if that happens but if alvin bragg has his way no such luck, were on your own. >>. [applause]re >> welcome tonight's guests. let's hope godve forgives him f being here tonight the founder and chairman of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph reed. [applause] for father's day,
give us a running start. when a criminal psychoentered a subway phones should be beeping like amber alert and prompted by the ankle bracelet is that a violation of his right to privacy you violated our right to live. go [inaudible] yourself. so. sorry ralph. fact is some of us are lucky never to be in a situation we must choose with saving lives and a manslaughter charge if this helps we hope that mr. pen emmight be there to help. alvin brag has his way nou no luck you are on your own. >> welcome tonight's guest! hope god forgives him the founder of faith and freedom
>> how much does that conversation that is being had and the clear camps that have strung up not onew york but beyond. >> and it will dokochlly indica the jury pool. they may even take the subway to the courthouse that day. legally this is really tricky. i have no idea how this one will come out because there are two issues. one is did mr. penny act in self-defense of position or another. you have to perceive that the person poses a threats to the other person or your own life or limb. >> he didn't have a weapon. didn't punch anyone. >> and that is why the testimony from the bystanders, what was he doing. and the second part is the manslaughter charge.
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attorneys for comments as we wait to hear back. as we look at this, john, what do you make, first, of the indictment? >> the indictment is -- he was arrested on may 12th. the controversy of course was it was two weeks after the incident and people were saying, you know, had this been a black suspect, he would have been arrested that night at the scene. what is this special treatment? the district attorney's said we want to hear more about the case. what are the other witnesses on the train showing, is there another video, so on. they put it through the grand jury. that's the first test. that's 23 people who say, well, i'll hear all of that or as much as the district attorney will present and decide is there probable cause to sustain this manslaughter charge, which means he recklessly, not intentionally, recklessly caused the death of another by taking actions that a reasonable person should have known were likely to result in that. the key now is going on to trial two big questions.
don't know the specifics of that indictment. we're working off of what sources tell us when it comes to the second-degree manslaughter charge. there could be other charges in there. it will be unsealed during the arraignment, which is scheduled for june 28th. we do have a response from jordan neely's family, the attorneys for jordan neely. they say in a statement daniel fenny's indictment is the right result for the wrong he committed. the grand jury's decision tells the nation no one is above the law. he did not have the right to be the judge, jury and executioner. we did actually hear from daniel penny himself over the weekend in statements that his attorney released. him actually on camera explaining himself. here's what he had to say. >> this was a scary situation, and mr. neely came on. he was threatening. i'm 6'2", and he was taller than me. i looked around, i saw women and children. he was yelling in their faces, saying these threats.
others. c cnn's brityn gingrass is here wh us. >> reporter: the manhattan district attorney confirming that an indictment has been returned except not saying what the charge is. although sources saying it is for a second-degree manslaughter charge. we're learning now daniel penny will be back in court in about two weeks and that is likely where the indictment unsealing will happen, and we might learn, but like you just said to the viewers, we have known about just based on the video and the police sources that was released after this incident last month. like you said, we know from witnesses that jordan neely, a street performer who suffering from homelessness, got on a subway train in new york city, screamed out allegedly that he was tired and homeless and hungry, and he didn't care if he died, and daniel penny in his own words essentially said he felt he was being threatened as well as others on that train, taking matters into his own
election. >> and some of the legal experts are split. they say that the trial is going to happen before the election and some say it is going to stretch out after, but the judge is the one who is going to decide that. >> yes, she gets a lot of leeway, and not a lot of oversight. if she makes a motion on a piece of evidence, that is going to be going quickly, and no one is going to overturn. but trump can drag it out to get a lawyer or two. >> we will see how long it takes. boris? >> yes, the manhattan d.a. has confirmed that this man in this image has been indict bade grand jury. daniel penny seen here executing a chokehold has been seen executing a manslaughter charge against george neely. they say that neely got on the subway yelling at passengers that he was hungry, thirsty and he did not care if he died.
problem on that set. there were a number of industry standards that were not practiced and there's multiple responsible parties. in the end, you know, justice won't bring halyna back, but maybe the memory of her can help keep people safe. >> hutchins has since dropped his lawsuit against the "rust" film makers. prosecutors leveled these new accusations against gutierrez reid last week in response to a motion filed last month by her attorneys that seeked to dismiss her involuntary manslaughter charge. attorneys telling nbc news quote, the prosecution has so mishandled this case, and the case is so weak, they are now resorting to character assassination tactics to further taint the press and jury pool. filming on the set of "rust" resumed in april, 18 months after the deadly accident. miguel almaguer, nbc news.