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>> okay. we have the jurors reconvening this morning. as you pointed out, they they had about an hour of deliberations before the and at the de and the judge said they would just come straight back into the jury deliberation deliberation room and reconvene this morning and go through these three charges they they have a form that tells them the standards, the different elements that they have to unanimously agree on in order to reach a verdict. and those include of course the idea that 100 knowingly violated the law when he bought a firearm in october of 2018, that he knew he was addicted to drugs when he filled out that form and according to process to curators, when he lied in, be in order to be able to get through a background check those are the elements that are at the center of this. we saw the jurors yesterday after about an hour. they seem to have started forming a bond at a couple of them, walked out arm in arm as they exited, smiling. these are jurors who have been very, very attentive. they've been taking notes during this trial over five days over really not a lot in dispute in this case. in the end, they're going to have to reach a verdict on someone who is very well known in this community. you saw the biden family come out in force for them yesterday, 33 rows of seats it's were taken up by members of the community, including an african american church that is doing a prayer service for him every morning, kate talk to me about some of the high points they came out during closing arguments and some of the final things really that the jury heard before they started deliberating yeah. >> look, it was a very, very tough battle really between this that the lawyers involved here, we had abbe lowell who is 100 attorney, who used a a series of presentations to list what he says. >> we're holes in the case on the part of the prosecution. >> he said these were all reasons for reasonable doubt. he also accused prosecutors of rehearsing with witnesses and he accused prosecutors also have been to nail bit noisy. naomi biden, who is a hunter biden's daughter, who testified here, one of the last witnesses and asking her whether she did rugs, something that really caused a lot of emotion from her and from her father that day. on the part of the prosecution, they said, look, hunter biden new, he was addicted to drugs. anyone who puts a crackpipe to their mouth every 15 minutes knows he's an advocate evan perez thank, you so much, kevin, as always, johnson, would this now cnn legal analyst, jennifer rodgers, counselor, we heard from evan there that the prosecution in their closing arguments may direct reference to people in the gallery which included at some points that first lady hunter biden's why biden family members in did so some people who are watching said pretty aggressively, what's your takeaway there? >> yeah, i was surprised at that. actually, i'm not surprised that they address that he had so many supporters there, but i would have done it differently because the risk to the prosecution is that people really sympathize with hundred for biden. there's a narrow pathway for them to find him not guilty, but i think it does require them to really have sympathy for him to get there. and so i would have done it by saying you see, he has a lot of support. we all know addiction is a terrible thing. you might find yourself sympathizing with him, but your job as jurors is to follow the law you have taken an oath that requires you to put aside your sympathy and to look at the facts here. that's what i would have done instead of kinda point, they are not evidence. ignore them. i think that's handling it the wrong way because if they aren't, we don't know for sure, but if they are sympathetic to the biden family you're sort of guilty the jurors are your sort of yelling at them about that? >> yeah. it's not the right take. i mean, listen in order to acquit or even to hang at least some of them have to find this whole thing about did he knowingly make the false statement? and when you look at all the evidence around his use, not in those two weeks necessarily, but around that time. that's hard to do. so i do feel like the judges have the jury had to do a little bit of nullifying here in order to find him not guilty and guilting them into the sympathy is not the way to avoid that. >> the judge and the jury instructions seem to make pretty clear that the prosecution version of the law is the one to follow here, which is to say, we don't have to prove that hunter biden knew he was addicted the minute the pen hit the paper right there at that moment or that he was using drugs the minute the pen hit the paper at that moment that's right. >> and prosecutors always emphasized to use your common sense, right? >> someone comes out of rehab. they described themselves for years later is an addict. he knows he's an addict. use your common sense but you should find jurors walking hand in hand, eyelid courtroom. that's a little unusual. >> yeah, i haven't seen that before. they often do get close. they spend a lot of time together sometimes they are at odds, sometimes they're not. it's not uncommon for them to form friendships in the arm in arm, i really haven't heard before. maybe this is a particularly close group, but listen, they need to be closer at least in agreement in order to reach a unanimous verdict. so i suppose that's a good sign for prosecutors know i know people who write lifetime movies. i mean, this could be a good plot. his strange plot for the beginning of something kinda lifetime romance there. >> the jury is in delaware, which is a very democratic state in wilmington, which is a very biden city that binds have been there for decades it's in decades and decades yeah. >> how much will that play in the jury room? >> well, prosecutors are trying to avoid that. this is why they're saying things like, you know, ignore the famous people in the audience and the like, and the judge has told them the same, listen, you have to put aside your preconceived notions about who he is, who the families, and just focus on the law and the facts. but we of course, don't know what they really do in their own heads. and when they're discussing among themselves in the jury room. so we'll see they've been in there for an hour plus minutes, six minutes, probably at this point, a long deliberation typically benefits the defense. i mean, the longer it goes, the more likely that it's hong it's a simple case, not very many witnesses, if they don't have a verdict today, it's bad news for the prosecutors will stand by. >> it could come at any moment. jennifer rodgers, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. thanks happening now, you're sicker of state. >> antony blinken is in jordan putting new pressure on all parties to accept a ceasefire and hostage deal where the negotiation stand right now, this must stop what attorney general merrick garland says, republican lawmakers are doing. the he says, is dangerous for democracy d. and this why martha's vineyard is running out of pot altered james is cold calculating, cynical, and needs the money not only was the cia compromise, he also was compromised secrets and spies nuclear games. sunday at ten on cnn can the riva support your brain health? 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>> are they looking after one guy who may be for now safe, very i don't know ten storeys underground somewhere in gaza while the people that he purported it's represent continue to suffer and across fire of his own making or will he do what's necessary to actually move this to a better place? to help him, the suffering of people to help bring real security to israelis and palestinians alike that one guy that secretary blinken is referring to is hamas military leader yahya sinwar. >> and there is new reporting and the wall street journal about messages purportedly from sinwar to ceasefire negotiators. one message reading, we have the israelis, right where we want them joining us right now is retired lieutenant colonel jonathan cohen, rica. he was the spokesperson for the idf before and after the october 7 attack. can we say how him on many a time he's now a senior fellow with the foundation of defense of democracies. colonel, thank you so much for being here. i want to get to that reporting from the wall street journal with some additional contexts in just a second, but first on what we hear from secretary blinken meeting with netanyahu and he also not only said there was consensus, he said that netanyahu reaffirmed his commitment and support of this hostage and ceasefire deal, as it's laid out so far, do you think they are closer than ever before to an actual deal we've seen steps forward and then how do you read this? >> i sadly don't. and i'm not as positive towards the whole development. i would love to see our hostages home are 120 hostages home? and i would want to see israel defeat hamas and return safety to southern israel and improve the situation in gaza but i think that if you're sinwar is in his text messages, he he hits the nail on the head. sadly. and for months hamas has been manipulating global public opinion using international politics. the differences between washington and jerusalem, and they have basically been able to stay alive and stay out of jail using the hostages for about 345 months and that's something that i think is the core of hamas strategy to delay and delay as much as possible using the hostages and kind of try to derail israeli operations in gaza so that the war will end without israel defeating hamas. that's the zero-sum game. and i think that's sinwar doesn't really have a strong incentive they've to go ahead and release hostages and basically end the war because that is his best tool to stay alive and to keep hamas empowering gaza. >> let me ask you about that. so the wall street journal reporting, cnn is not seeing the wall street journal message. the message is that the wall street journal's reporting cannot confirm the authenticity of them. still, i want to read some more of the reporting from the journal. we have the israelis right where we want them. we read. it was one message and these are messages to the negotiators of the sea, to the ceasefire negotiators is what and this is another one in one message two, hamas leaders in doha, sin more cited civilian losses and national liberation conflict thaksin places such as algeria, where hundreds of thousands of people died fighting for independence from france saying quote, these are necessary sacrifices here's the thing. if this is the case, if this is the zero sum game that you're talking about, if this is the strategy how does israel take on hamas take out hamas deal with sinwar without playing into his hands that's a good question, and i think that the israeli strategy has been so far to try to get to sinwar, get to the senior leadership of hamas so far not succeeding probably because he is hidden underground with lots of israeli hostages surrounding him as human shields and so far what israel said he hasn't been able to do is to advance fast enough and to get to sinwar and basically decide the battle it took israel many months of staging in order to finally get into rafah. there was tremendous outcry and there were protests that israel shouldn't and mustn't go into rafah. >> israel easing enough. and there's no humanitarian catastrophe and there's no mass casualty event which proves that is can and should do what it's doing. >> here is a humanitarian crisis throughout gaza now you've definitely yes, but i'm talking there's not a slaughter and not a catastrophe like people warned that there will you think some have thought hoped maybe conjectured that the rescue operation from the weekend could have changed the calculus. >> they're getting three men out, men that were not supposed to be in the first batch of any ceasefire negotiation can getting those hostages. do you think do you think that changes the calculations are discussing for hamas? do you think that could scare them to the table it's a very happy event, but eventually it only proves that i think it strengthens the case of getting hostages out via negotiations because i don't think that is what has the intelligence capacity or the otherwise military capacity to get more hostages out like this, because this was a top of the shelf special operations with weeks of preparation, intel tip of the spear israeli commando units i've got in gaza job done, got the hostages out and i don't think that will sadly have the ability to do so over and over again. >> and i don't think that it changes the calculation and i think that iran hizballah or a much bigger threat, you know, we're focused on gaza and small details in gaza. the big deal and the big threat to regional stability is hizballah against this. well, and if you look at where alarms or sounding most in israel, it's in northern israel and its rockets and drones, et cetera. >> and sadly, when you're talking about where israel situated, all it's all big crisis. it's all big alarms that are sound from hamas in gaza to the neighbors around with funded and funded and supplied and supported by iran on in terms of the motivation and position of prime minister benjamin netanyahu, blinken says that he reaffirmed his support for today, but president biden told time magazine in a very recent interview, and here's how he put it. there is every reason for people to draw the conclusion that netanyahu is prolonging the war for his own political gain what's your reaction to them? >> as an israeli, as a father two children who will soon be serving in the military. i really, really hope that isn't true. and i would like to see evidence that states the otherwise from my elected leadership. i think it's very important and what we lacked now in israel is unity and trust. we are as you rightly said, surrounded by so many enemies that are challenging or very existence. and what's the israeli public now is going through. this battle fatigue, eight months of fighting, relentless alarms and sirens and 100,000 people are evacuated from their homes. in northern israel. and the war goes on. we had four casualties reported just this morning. lots of pressure on israeli society and what's desperately needed is unity is leadership. and to take, carry israel forward in what i think will be the coming years, not months, the coming years will be very challenging you don't think president biden was so off off-base to say that? >> i don't know, but i really hope that israeli leadership gets its act together unifies, gets all of the parties in israeli politics that are zionist israeli, and want to live here safely and respectfully get themselves together and focus on the most important thing, which isn't political sustainability, but it is winning the war, defending israeli civilians, and making sure that israelis can go back to their homes as they lived before october the seventh jonathan can rica, so general. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me thank you at least for us college professors are wounded after what's being described as a brutal stabbing attack in china, one person has now been arrested. >> what we are, we are learning this morning about that suspect, plus the new the big news from apple and you partnership with chatgpt gpt creator, openai, how the company plans to integrate ai into its products. >> we'll be back devastating and sudden power of tsunamis. >> it happened in far away lands and it's easy to think. it can't happen here if one hits home, we'd be ready silent birth would liev schreiber, sunday at night on cnn. >> here's to getting better with age here's the beaten these two every thursday helped fuel today with boost type protein complete nutrition, you need without the stuff you don't. so here's two now let's get started no where's your mask? 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>> right, kate? the arrest is made yesterday, but we only learn about adjust tonight. so obviously there was a gap. and the explanation from police as to what prompted the suspect the suspect simply said he somehow ran into this group of american educators and somehow this prompted this stabbings. so obviously there are a lot of gaps, a lot of holes, a lot of questions i want to show you the scene of the stabbing we were there just a few hours ago. it's about 15 you may hike from where we are right now when we arrived, any evidence of the violence had been literally washed away. there were some stains on the ground where perhaps that blood was a contrast from the images that we saw shortly after we saw these injured americans laying on the ground covered in blood. that's in addition to this, chinese tourists who stepped in to intervene to try, to try to help this park in the middle of the city is very much reminiscent of a large park you would see you in any american suburb, there are trails, there's a train that goes through it, there's a temple. we've seen a lot of retirees. we've seen a lot of families this appears to be a very safe place as investigators tried to fill in the gaps in all of this it also is important to look at the current environment, right now in china, for americans, there is this rise of nationalism. it's something that i've heard in conversations with chinese folks. it's something that is on social media but yet at the same time, we are hearing these overtures for the chinese government from present fusion thing to increase these educational exchanges between universities and colleges in the united states, like that one in iowa with china. in fact, xi jinping set a goal of 50,000 american students that come study here. so this point will have to see what happened here today. the single incident of perhaps dampers that enthusiasm finally, kate, as you mentioned, a lot of these images have been scrubbed from social media. in fact, we just saw a group of people here tonight in this park, gap of it around a phone who were learning about what happened for the first time, about 24 hours after it happened, it's been away from the headlines, sensor from the headlines until very recently, case mark. thank you so much for your reporting especially given in light of that. >> thank you, john. >> right. what makes donald trump walk on eggshells or maybe who errantly is taylor swift the revealing and some say bizarre new interview. and why health officials are keeping a very close eye on the bird flu outbreak in the united states hey, mom, how many should i decorated? 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this is going to resonate with the biden campaign believes that tackling gun violence is an issue of importance to young voters, but also to voters in black and latino communities. and so part part of president biden's goal today is trying to promote was his administration has done to try to tackle gun violence, including touting the bipartisan gun safety bill that he signed into law just two years ago. biden, today's specifically will announce the justice department has charged more than 500 defendants with violating gun trafficking and illegal straw purchaser so it seemed provisions that were part of that gun safety legislation. he will be speaking to survivors of gun violence as well as volunteers and activists at everytown for gun safety is conference it's here in washington, dc. this is one of those groups that's really risen in prominence in the wake of mass shootings in this country. the president also is expected to tout the drop hop in violent crime. the fbi yesterday released some preliminary data that showed that violent crime in the first three months of the year is actually down 15%. if you take a look at the number of murders in the country those three months, that's down by 26%. president biden has praised this, saying it's good news for american families and also arguing that this isn't happening by accident, promoted voting a his own legislative and executive actions relating to this. he said, quote, my administration is putting more cops on the beat, holding violent criminals accountable, and getting illegal guns off the street. and we are doing it in partnership with communities. he added as a result, americans are safer today than when i took office. so part of what the biden can campaign, the white house are hoping the president can do today is really tried to lay out the steps that he has taken to try to address issues relating to crime and also gun violence. it tom's as he's not just looking to rally his own base on this, but you also have former president donald trump, who has sought to rally republicans around a gun initiatives. he has vowed to undo many of the efforts that biden has put into place while he is an office, while the biden campaign argues that trump would simply be beholden to the gun lobbies so both men, in their own ways really trying to use gun issues as a way to rally their basis heading into november's election. >> or let thank you. >> john so this morning, what makes donald trump nervous or who the answer might be? taylor swift? so asked about taylor swift for an upcoming book, trump says, quote, i think she's very beautiful, actually, unusually beautiful. that's according to a forthcoming book from variety coder and chief from institute with us now cnn political commentator, democratic strategist, public gala, and cnn political commentator and republican strategist. sure michael singleton and paul, there are people who look at that comment and note it's a little strange from a guy who is going to turn 78 later in the week that maybe those are the types of things that he shouldn't be observing right there. but another way of looking at it is for a guy who will say mean things about anybody. he seems to be really careful when it comes to taylor swift right? >> what both are true. it's an incredibly creepy, i'm sorry, i know it's morning. i just threw up a little bit. my mouth. when you read those quotes today, it's just disgusting thing and mr. corruption mr. trump should pay himself hush money. you should just shut up about taylor swift and you can tell he is scared of her trump understand celebrity. he understands the power celebrity that's how he got where he is. >> ms swift is far more powerful as a celebrity than donald trump ever dreamed. >> a big and so he's clearly scared of her. and i find that wonderful and amusing, even though the comments about her appearance deeply creepy. >> sure. michael, i was trying to think if there was another figure who people have politicians have had to walk on eggshells around. you have to be really careful with no matter what you say or how they feel about you. and i was sick. maybe oprah when oprah went behind barak obama in 2007, 2008, everyone, hillary clinton's campaign and had to be really careful than john mccain's campaign had to be really careful. i can't really think of everyone else, anyone else that would make a politician so nervous. >> i mean, john, i can think of one other person and i think that would be bianna. and i have to say this because my girlfriend were kill me if i did not. one other the person that i think a lot of politicians out to be very, very careful with the lead. >> i think a lot of these celebrities and younger voters, attractiveness to them not only because of their music, but their lifestyles and also the way they live vicariously by the politics that they adopt is certainly a pervasive thing. >> if you're a politician right now, trying to win the left section, which we know will be very close and you want to galvanize young people you certainly don't want to anger them by attacking some of the individuals they look up to and i think this is the case. we're taylor swift who is an incredible songwriter. so here's someone who galvanized is not only young liberals, john, but she also galvanizes young conservatives be in a former country star who's now i want to pop music. so there's an interesting dichotomy here. but i think the former president is trying to thread the needle on. >> i know the biden campaign would love it to taylor swift came out in public and endorse the biden candidacy like she did in 2020. they are waiting for that to happen. i was looking at the calendar, paul, i still can't wrap my arms around the fact that there is a general election presidential debate in like two weeks and yes, it is right here on cnn. and i'm not doing this to promote the debate which is, i should note right here on cnn but it just shatters everything i know about presidential campaigns in its drawings. i covered george bush in 2000 and he disappeared for days before the first debate for debate prep in it, we learn later that he'd been preparing like a ton for months before should these candidates deep into debate prep for what could be the most important presidential debate any of us have ever seen oh yeah, debates do tend to freeze the campaign and our president has to go to europe for g7 meeting and if i were campaign strategies for him, i would be tearing the last three hairs out of my head. but you can use that time on air force one. >> so let's watch them manifest on air force one. if my old pal ron klain, president's former chief of staff is on that trip. >> i mean, they're doing to bake prep on the plane. >> no one i've done all my adult life. no one is better at debate prep than the president's former chief of staff, ron klain. >> but they do need to do. and by the way, so does mr. trump and i know he doesn't like it i shouldn't say this because debates are about expectations joe biden is going to climb donald trump in that debate. >> incumbent presidents rarely, rarely when the first debate, because they're used to having their rings kissed, shall we say? >> but mr. trump has talent. he does, and he's great at these rallies but he's never won a national presidential general election debate. he had to three against hillary, two gets biden in the polling, one or two point race, he consistently loses those debates by nine to 12 points. so honest earnest, free advice to mr. trump you need to hunker down and prepare for this. mr. mr. trump and i promise you, joe biden is you just broke the major one rule of pre debate expectations, right there. you're gonna get a golf. >> i spoke the truth apartment. i try never to do that with you, but once in a while sure. >> michael, if you are the trump campaign, a. the likelihood that they follow paul's advice and donald trump goes into debate prep. if you are donald trump or if you are the trunk campaign, what kind of prep would you have him do i mean luck in 2016, he had chris christie helping them out. >> chris christie and entrepreneur longer friends, so i don't think you can call up chris and say, hey, come and help us but i agree with paul. presidents usually don't do well during the first debate. so this is a very unique opportunity for the former president. and i think donald trump is really effective. john, at being able to communicate very simply in a simple way rather on issues that people really care about. so if you can figure out a way to drive and hone in that skill and more focused way on actual issues. i think the former president could potentially surprise people, but you have to be disciplined in order to do so. so i was spent a couple of days, maybe a week or so practicing these things, maybe some of his best zynga's figuring out a way to be more surgical with them during that one hour debate. and let's see what happens. but this could be, and i'll say this quickly, john. i don't think trump should debate president for a second time because to pause zero point presidents don't do well during the first debate, but they usually come back and knock it out of the park during the second debate. so if i'm trump, i would try to hammer this in with a victory and say, you know what, that's it. i'm not interested in debating number two. >> paul, very quickly share michael said the issues one of the issues is crime usually is an issue every four years and these new numbers out from the fbi, violent crime, going down, murder rate dropping dramatically could be the biggest drop. on record in one year how should the buying campaign talk about this in a way that it will connect with people absolutely. and i think it all about mr. trump catering to the most extreme and joe biden, big part of the mainstream are, let's report is right. young people and people of color really support the biden gun safety genic. guess what? >> so do older white people in the suburbs where trump is very weak and it's a web issue. >> you always just talking about wedge issues. this is a web issue. it's stick stitches together the base where joe biden frankly needs a lot of help, and the suburban college-educated swing voters were biden is surprisingly strong. once a republican stronghold, biden is really strong with those suburban at college-educated voters. so it's a great issue for biden to be touting. and mr. trump by the way, who can no longer even own a gun because he's a felon. he went to the nra and he said, i will be your loyal friend and fearless champion. so that's, that's the way to posit trump is as he can own a get himself, but he is going to be owned by the nra public, alice or michel saying, great to see both you. thanks so much good to see you, jack so health experts increasingly concerned that the bird flu could turn into a much bigger problem and martha's vineyard martha's vineyard? >> all the vineyards off the coast of massachusetts, running out of marijuana chasing life with dr. sanjay gupta listen wherever you get your podcast check it out. six my work from anywhere cozy grab yourself a drink is this dog food in your fridge? 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or is it is it not, is it there's something else and what they think at this point is that it's doesn't necessarily appear to be more severe. it may be that they, the third person got infected in a different way. first two people may have touched the surface than touch their eyes, which is what often happens. this the third person who is a farm worker in michigan may have actually inhaled some of the virus. that's worth paying attention to what they have not seen. kate. and this is a big thing that they look out for. is there evidence then it spreads as a result of those respiratory symptoms to another human human, to human spread. and so far at this point, they have not seen that, but that's what they're looking for. in short of that, what are the other red flags that they're wanting four yeah. >> i think one thing is to see a look are there other mammals that are starting to get infected? there's lots of different mammals that have been infected so far. but are there other ones as well? because each time you get new mammals that are infected, especially ones that are closer and closer to humans you may, the virus may mutate into something that can more easily infect humans and they, and could potentially spread among humans. but one of the big ways to figure this out is tested sting. and kate, we talked about this a lot during the pandemic. are we doing enough testing? and the answer right now with h5n1 is that we're not, if you test a lot of people and you say, hey, there's a lot of people that are carrying the virus, but they're not getting sick that's an important message. it may mean that this is not as deadly or is making people sick as we thought testing is the key to sort of get an idea of just how widespread this is. i talked to rick bright, who's a virologist and immunologists about this specifically. and here's what he said. >> i really think that's a tip of the iceberg. we are not doing enough testing or the even the right kind of testing. to get a better answer to that question is really unusual that we would find just one or two cases with so much virus prevalent and so many places as such, close contact to the source, such as the infected cow or the milk supply every virologists that you've talked to says we need to be doing more testing just like we said at the beginning of the covid pandemic. >> so that has to happen. and then again, looking for human to human transmission. that's where a lot of focuses it's good to see you, sanjay. thank you so much and a new episode of chasing life with sanjay gupta, the podcast available right now, jump. >> then there's this a dog ran for help after his owner crash to call our into a remote steep ravine and a national park in oregon. the man was traveling with his four dogs when he crashed. one of the dogs was able to get free and then walked slash, ran nearly four miles to the families camp site rescue crews, put up a pulley system to get the man who was airlifted to safety the three other dogs were found alive at the crash site. we are effort and comment kate, from them. >> he was waiting for that. i was like and where are we? 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axlerod would have liked to have had a group of elders that a wanted him to not run but couldn't get him or jill to agree to that, and so here we are. he doesn't sound happy about the fact that joe biden's the candidate. >> no, or rachel, if you listen to david axlerod -- a smart guy, he won two campaigns with obama -- if you've listened to him over the past year and a half, he has begged, practically, joe biden to back off the race. and i think what this tells us given the source is that may chel obama -- michelle obama wants no part of this race. david axelrod has a very close relationship with the former first lady. she has a very nice life right now roughing on her own zip code on martha's vineyard. then you look at gavin newsom, he can't run on make america california again, that's not going to fly in the state of california, and with kamala harris polling lower somehow than joe biden, your only option right now is an 811-year-old --
buying some snacks talking to a bunch of potential voters there we will get your response. so he did not get any hugs. but be that as it may everyone has their own style. the president has made a habit on doing these local food joint stops whether on the campaign trail or in martha's vineyard on vacation. sometimes here in the nation's capital on the job. do you think these kinds of unscripted stops generally work for the president and what do you make of the side-by-side of the current and former? >> well, you just showed us the intensity right there on video. a lot of polls have told us that people who intended to vote for
across. tentacles coming across, thousands people are dying and so forth. as governor somewhat limited to what you can google what have you done and what we could do as president? >> like they had essentially cities we have programs to have no benefits like e-verify we have a human smuggling task force with increased penalties for human smuggling. i have sent troops that i've sent one important personnel to texas to help with the border and we have a program to transport illegal aliens to sanctuary jurisdictions we did that to places like martha's vineyard. we also are maritime states that we have interdicted about sweep the coast guard for places like haiti and supportive people back to haiti so we have lived in big time for every community is a boulder community now tha with e fentanyl. in all of the rest here's the thing as president this will be if they went issue for me. we are going to flare up to be a national emergency for don brothwell bless all resources in the military for part of the southern border were going to stop the invasion of a policy like me in mexico.
across. tentacles coming across, thousands people are dying and so forth. as governor somewhat limited to what you can google what have you done and what we could do as president? >> like they had essentially cities we have programs to have no benefits like e-verify we have a human smuggling task force with increased penalties for human smuggling. i have sent troops that i've sent one important personnel to texas to help with the border and we have a program to transport illegal aliens to sanctuary jurisdictions we did that to places like martha's vineyard. we also are maritime states that we have interdicted about sweep the coast guard for places like haiti and supportive people back to haiti so we have lived in big time for every community is a boulder community now t with the fentanyl. in all of the rest here's the thing as president this will be if they went issue for me. we are going to flare up to be a national emergency for don brothwell bless all resources in the military for part of the southern border were going to stop the invasion of a policy like me in mexico.
the united states? >> the number of people that will be amnesties is zero. we cannot do amnesty in this country. first of all, it will cause more people to want to come illegally. you have to enforce the law. it's got to be consistent. people has to know it's there. you have to remove benefits for people who are here illegally. california, you can go illegal alien and you get free health insurance coverage. you're here illegally and they're doing that. we should not let states provide these benefits. in florida obviously we don't do that. we don't allow the driver's license and all that. but some states do. and it creates a magnet for people coming in. so federally, no benefits. no enticements to come in. then the states, we're going to crack down on sanctuary states and sanctuary cities. i showed the hypocrisy of all this back in 2022 because we have a program to transport illegal aliens to sanctuary jurisdictions. one of the places we sent 50 to, beautiful, liberal martha's
across. tentacles coming across, thousands people are dying and so forth. as governor somewhat limited to what you can google what have you done and what we could do as president? >> like they had essentially cities we have programs to have no benefits like e-verify we have a human smuggling task force with increased penalties for human smuggling. i have sent troops that i've sent one important personnel to texas to help with the border and we have a program to transport illegal aliens to sanctuary jurisdictions we did that to places like martha's vineyard. we also are maritime states that we have interdicted about sweep the coast guard for places like haiti and supportive people back to haiti so we have lived in big time for every community is a boulder community now tha with e fentanyl. in all of the rest here's the thing as president this will be if they went issue for me. we are going to flare up to be a national emergency for don brothwell bless all resources in the military for part of the southern border were going to stop the invasion of a policy
strategy nationally. and there aren't a whole lot of liberal suburbanites from massachusetts voting nationalfully republican primaries. there is no chance that she can win this primary. it's a waste of time. it's a waste of money. biden won re-election. nominee of the party. that's going to be president trump. >> when you add up vivek and desantis and trump, it's about 86%. senator, speaking of trump as a threat, former attorney general eric holder told "u.s.a. today" monday that there would be incalculable damage to the country if trump wins. asked if obama shares that view holder replied absolutely. i don't think it's a question about that. i think that's what motivates him. i think that's what will continue to motivate him along with all the private jet travel to oahu and martha's vineyard. they are worried, are they not, about trump because this time if he gets in that swamp will be
it's got to be consistent. people got to know it's there. you also have to remove benefits for people who are here illegally. california, you can go illegal al alien, and you get free health insurance coverage. you're here illegally, and they're doing that. we should not let states provide these benefits. in florida, obviously, we don't do that. we don't allow the driver's license and all that but some states do. and it creates a magnet for people coming in. so federally, no benefits. no enticements to come in. and then the states, we're going to crack down on sanctuary states and sanctuary cities. and i showed the hypocrisy of all this back in 2022, because we have a program to transport illegal aliens to sanctuary jurisdictions. and one of the place we sent 50 to, beautiful liberal martha's vineyard. and you know what? these are folks that were on their high horse saying how they were sanctuary jurisdictions, saying nobody is illegal. all refugees are welcome. that's what they had in their town. the minute even 50 came up, they
come illegally. so you've got to enforce the law. it's got to be consistent. people got to know is there. you also have to remove benefits from people who are here illegally. you know, california, you can go illegal alien and you get free health insurance coverage. you are here illegally and they're doing that. we should not let states provide these benefits. you know, in florida obviously we don't do that, we don't allow the driver's license and all that. but some states do. and it creates a magnet for people coming in. so federally, no benefits, no enticements to come in. and in the states, we are gonna crack down on sanctuary states and sanctuary cities. and i showed the hypocrisy of all this back in 2022. because we have a program to transport illegal aliens to sanctuary jurisdictions. and one of the places we sent 0 to, beautiful liberal martha's vineyard. and you know what, these were folks on their high horse, saying how they were sanctuary jurisdictions, saying no one is illegal, all refugees are welcome, that's what they had in their town.