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pss >> pam: deaths those images were found hanging on campus and were originally being looked into as a hate crime. now claiming the responsibility and then sent to the bulletin board on sunday at the university. the additional claim that people of color color of collected those images on the berkeley campus nearby protesting police in regard to police brutality. they did apologize to african americans that were upset with the images and the artist involved wished to remain anonymous. >> pam: what we are learning about the gunmen responsible that is coming up in australia? >> pam: bill cosby breaks the silence of the allegations that were brought against them. brought against them. at kaiser permanente, everything you need is under one roof. another way care and coverage together makes life easier. okay, a little easier. become a member of kaiser permanente. because together, we thrive. ♪ hey, jennar fuzz mike trooawwwwww scram!g... i'm crust mike jubby roll bond chow gonna lean up an kiss bet. peas charty get town down. [laughter] ♪ borf a liver tute face stummy wag ♪ pow pam sha-beeps stella nerf berms. saxa-nay nay? badumps a head. temexiss gurrin. juppa left. fluppa jown! brone a brood. what? catch up on what everyone's talking about with the x1 entertainment operating system. preloaded with the latest episodes of the top 100 shows. only from xfinity. okay buddy, what's your favorite kind of cheerios? honey nut. but... chocolate is my other favorite... but apple cinnamon is my favorite too... and fruity... oh yeah, and frosted! okay, but...what's you're most favorite of all? hmm... the kind i have with you. me too. >> pam: >> pam: the study says that the study which is published and the international the obamas pharmacology states that if they grow up and that caring environment is not the gene that will lead to the behavior but it will react with the compartment. the study was the first of its kind to reveal the jean variants. dweeb >> pam: and intense situation and what we have learned about the 16th hour stand off and the action de police has decided to take. >> pam: we will be right back. >> catherine: holding a group of people hostage. it ended with two of the hostages and government debt. police are trying to understand exactly what happened and why? >> you can probably hear the loud explosions behind me. >> catherine: light flashes and obvious force with a head of hostages escaping. all of it as the police moved into the cafe to confront the man that helped 17 people hostage all day and into the night. >> believe at that time if they had not entered it would have many more lives lost. >> catherine: police knew him well. he had a long criminal history with charges including sexual assault, then accessory to a murder of his ex-wife and riding office of letters to the family of australia soldiers killed in afghanistan. the cafe showed hostages holding up a black flag with arabic writing stating that he was the profit of god. they're also using social media to display his demand after a few hostages managed to escape police moved in about 3:00 a.m.. >> this was an isolated accident pit incident. >> catherine: it is still not clear if the two hostages were shot by their captors or in the crossfire. dwight meantime >> pam: there is anchor at lower in sydney australia with how the company responded to the incident. were >> catherine: >> pam: the soaring prices across a called a flash or lash back. and they quickly dropped their rates. that promise to get a refund to 200 or up to 200 australian dollars or to any writers to equate the inflated fees. >> pam: the shooting stemmed from a domestic dispute according to police, the gunman shot his boat shot his wife and-shot others at different locations. all of the victims were members of his family. >> pam: police and the individual was taken into custody saturday on a probation violation and still looking for a third person that was involved. four people were wounded from the shooting outside rose mary anderson high- school on friday and to remain in the hospital tonight. >> pam: family of victims killed at the sandy hook at school. sunday, march 2nd years of the deadly shooting in the town connecticut leaving 20 children and six adults that debt. --dead. they are expected to announce a class action lawsuit against the assault rifle company. >> jacqueline: it was pretty wide spread here at the golden gate bridge to the pavement is still wet because we are seeing showers still on and off. biggest the the water cooled era on the roadway. taking a look at the traffic we still have the rain in the area. he is to the moderate sales will be at around the north bay, east bay and at the coast line. we will still see spotty showers moving in during the evening. you see how heavy the sale was. that is what the advisory has been issued. certainly it dry with caution. as we will see even more rain as we head into tomorrow. >> jacqueline: as we head into the afternoon, alleged to quickly show you the band of water as see how it impacts your evening commute. once were we >> pam: this is video of the same as san gabriel. the injured man was working for a subcontractor on the city real world project. he was conscious when they pulled him out coming up as a nation. comedian bill cosby is speaking out in regard to the allegations that have been brought against him. one >> pam: the future of culture karbala. harbaugh we >> pam: after weeks of allegations orally are around him, comedian bill cosby speaks. >> up holding standards of excellence in journalism and when you do that when you go and what they notre mind. --neutral mind. >> painting himself as a victim of the media. only african american focused out list are capable of being neutral is what he believes. reacting to what he had stated. the white media is running bill cosby, according to bill cosby. for so long that the stories have been marginalized or been and it ignored. >> is trying to deflect the issue is away from his own troubles. >> from years he has appointed himself as the moralizers of the african american african-american community. now he would be the ultimate hypocrite if this turns out to be true he has taught us about our own that habits. >> pam: followed by kron 4 news insider at 730. >> pam: we will have the latest next at 530. and when san francisco iconic golden gate bridge be one of the images we see during the 2020 olympics. when they make the pitch in which cities are up? 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dad? big uncle wayne? hot chocolate. green tea. uh, decaf, cuz. wow. i'm dying for an herbal tea. the all new keurig 2.0. >> pam: this is not what you want to see during the holiday season. the accidents that packages and fuel spilling out onto the freeway. the driver had minor injuries and was treated at a local hospital, and then released. >> pam: holiday dinners could be difficult for those who are diabetic because everything they eat will affect their blood sugar. reading labels before you cook can keep your holiday dinners festival festival. >> reporter: erse some things to keep in mind when you are preparing a holiday meal prick contra carbohydrates. carps raise blood sugars. and watch out for fruit, dairy and starchy vegetables and greens. watch your salt in regards to suit. or broth. cut down on the saturated trans fat. you can usually find a healthy recipe >> reporter: dan not forget to eat your protein at every meal and try to use lean cut like fish. do not forget to cut your sugar intake. and finally, be prepared when going to the public to take a long be held the option that way, if anything else is on helping you will have something to eat terret >> jacqueline: look at the yellow up at the coast line and spread around the north bay and east bay. another round of rain is expected for tuesday with talk more about it coming up. hey, jennar fuzz mike troober munny sling... awwwwww scram! i'm crust mike jubby roll bond chow gonna lean up an kiss bet. peas charty get town down. [laughter] ♪ borf a liver tute face stummy wag ♪ pow pam sha-beeps stella nerf berms. saxa-nay nay? badumps a head. temexiss gurrin. juppa left. fluppa jown! brone a brood. what? catch up on what everyone's talking about with the x1 entertainment operating system. preloaded with the latest episodes of the top 100 shows. only from xfinity. >> pam: here is something you already know. it was a rough season for the 49ers. sports director gary radnich is here to talk more about it. >> gary: role of the highlights. harbaugh will land on his feet to so do not worry about that guy. he will have about three or four offers. pete carroll with the seahawks and kapernick six times yesterday. russell wilson has a little montana in him. 177 seahawks. 17-7 >> we have a lot to play for. play the next two games like our lives depend on planning for each other plane for a the team. planning for the honor of the game. --playing for the honor of the game. >> gary: harbaugh can go in and make it happen right away so there will be a number of teams. however, you want to come put yourself you still have to want to get along with people. they should keep harbaugh and fighter york but it does not work that way. at the end of the day, it is a personality battle. >> pam: and the owner always win. >> gary: 10 penalties chief winds of 31 -13 >> jacqueline: >> gary: if you are a raider fan i guess you want them to lose the last two games. who is our producer tonight? s make a suggestion >> gary: only this came from tony barrett... this came from tony. >> gary: again, i will refer to the audience. i received a call to that you think they can offset the championship scores creek >> gary: the have a great group of guys so far and i am waiting to see these big guys creek to see if they can still handle it accurate >> pam: good to see you gary, thank you. >> jacqueline: store no. 1 hit as this week and store no. 2 is on its way. coming throw roughly 1:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. tomorrow with showers continuing into wednesday. to the 3 in. and those locations. a to an engine and valleys. up to an inch. >> jacqueline: more moderate rain at the coast line with showers continuing through the evening. thus take a look at futurecast. the computer model is looking good so far. activity coming in a little more widespread. your morning commute is not too bad. with a few spotty showers. schuss to bring in more organized ring with coastal waters breached spreading into the rest of the bay area for the afternoon. afternoon commute will be the heart upon what widespread rain at 5. >> jacqueline: at a future cash shows the rain turning into more spotty showers. this is what we are seeing today, up to an inch of rain in hayward and livermore santa rosa and that the. more rain is on the way. so this is the rainfall totals all of the showers today and rest of the evening. also for the main front coming in tomorrow when entering into wednesday. the one to 2 in. of rain closer to 1 in. mark. maybe more with santa cruz mountains and same thing in the hills. in the very act of storm approaching thrif when >> jacqueline: the good news is it looks like the weekend will remain dry and warm up next week. when >> grant: >> grant: highway 89 and highway 28 on the west side of the lake. there you go to see the road the glistening with a little bit of snow creek were >> grant: and all you guys are happy with what is happening? what >> we are very happy the firstborn cain was 16 in. of snow. hopefully we will see a lot of happy people with a small and faces and a small parking lot. and has been great for us. >> was 16 trills (the first formal got us excited and optimistic about the season and for it when you have rained down there we have snow here creek winter is here and it will stick around. >> grant: the slopes are open at lake tahoe and people are snowboarding >> gary: we >> gary: >> reporter: what are so many people behaving badly derrick will look more and to what would people behaving badly next >> pam: row really scott and pam is being ridiculed for is all white cast for the film exodus. while >> reporter: the latest debacle movie to hit the big screen creek and is a wash for casting. will he bruce slate will end acclaim with someone more closely tied to aliens to the egyptians. >> you see a bunch of white people and that will be a difficult thing to swallow for historical were standpoint creek will >> reporter: he says achsah this is a that sends a dangerous message. what he says the exodus since a dangerous message. well >> it sends a message that black is that the evil and wide exposure and good spirit and that is not good. and will would were >> pam: next at 6:00 we are tracking the storm that covers the bay area street and in some places the ground is so saturated causing agreed to vote or debris to give way. >> pam: what they suspected truck driver makes a quick moves in front of the police. >> pam: not at 6:00. a new band of rain a switch into the bay area causing more issues. (male announcer): this is the bay area news station, kron 4 news starts now. >> pam: there are still a lot of blood it rang are flooded rose out there. at the east bay some creeks are blowing a lot higher. that is good news with the drought experiencing >> jacqueline: we are still seen graeme at this hour. heavier. doesn't that the radar. we do have rain headed towards the south bay at this hour. indicating their rainfall. showing the inch of rain per hour. especially if you are driving st we are seeing heavier sales pushing through starting over 37 with higher volume of running there. >> jacqueline: that is a pretty good downpour especially if you are driving creek looking at the north bay would sales and that central valley headed up toward the sierra where snow is ongoing. spotty showers over the coastal waters and will clipper us tonight with more rain as we head into tomorrow. here is a look at futurecast with a spotty showers at endicott during the war through the north bay. tomorrow, and the commute not too bad. isolated showers here and there making our way with more rain coming over the coastal waters approaching the lake. we are going to continue timing the futurecast and how it will impact the afternoon drive home coming up and just a bit. >> pam: showing some of the video where some of the rock still on the 100 block of chestnut street. at boulder came down in front of a building. luckily no one was hurt and the city says after crews cleared the debris they will place a protective barrier there. >> making sure that nothing jumps and come and hit anyone. >> pam: happening about a block of way with the current section with boulders collapsing thrift geologist are expected to come out and expect the area. regarding this most recent rockslide to find out what the retrofit needs to be done in that area. >> pam: kron 4 haazig madyun came across one resident tried to keep his home safe from flooding. >> reporter: flooded driveways is a common sight with the rainfall totals. >> i am trying to clear some of the least from the train to keep the bulk water coming through. >> just a matter of keeping the drain cleaner. >> reporter: pretty typical based on the layout of the streets on the order in this area. >> no curves so it's just goes into the creek as best as it can. >> reporter: no significant issue of flooding during the recent storm. however the say they are keeping an eye on a trouble spot. haazig madyun kron 4 news. >> pam: expressing a lot of trouble because of today's weather with cancellations and delays. scott rates is standing by with the latest >> reporter: release starting to slow down at s f zero print we have seen at all day. there have been 58 departures cancellations, so far i am told. a lot of cancellations and countless delays appear at as after all. sfo >> gary: >> reporter: i did talk to a general who has been trying to get to arizona and his plight has been delayed a couple of times bridge >> i have been here since creek all supposed to go up at about 2:00. is to spend one cancellation after another creek it has been a pretty rough day. >> reporter: a lot of passengers are feeling the same way as this gentleman did are stuck here just trying to get to where they're supposed i did check and i can't say that the airport spokesperson says the delays will continue at least until midnight tonight. s f o scott rates kron4 is pretty >> pam: these pictures from our helicopter partnership with abc seven print many of the protesters chained themselves to entasis of the police headquarters in oakland downtown this morning. oakland police said they are arrested 25 protesters for civil disobedience to die. another group gathered on broadway where they brett the new read the names of black men killed by the police. this is the fourth week of protests in oakland followed by ferguson situation that was taken place with the grand jury not indicting the officer during will separate --darren wilson >> pam: the latest, dan? >> reporter: selling demonstrations in the bay area and across the nation a, it was posted on police officer twitter page the tweet posted on sunday says threaten me and my family and i'll use my got to give than and right to to kill you print settings, by the way if anyone feels they cannot breed or their lives matter i will be at the movies tonight. off-duty and caring mine done. carrying my gun. >> offenses and disrespectful, inappropriate social media, as have no place and public discourse following tragic life. >> reporter: distancing their cells from the comments they do not reflect the thoughts and billings of the men and women at the san jose police department. nor do we chlordecone nor do we come down this type of behavior condoned creek they are asking for the commissioners firing. >> reporter: the officer remains on administrative leave as they conduct his investigation at to see if he failed to follow proper policies. >> pam: >> grant: went missing to this newsletter back and 2013 and found on the fourth floor stairwell in october 8th. the two children and a state fallout the suit was hospital door alarms and the initial description of spaulding was incorrect. >> pam: more rain is on the way. plus, this storm is great news for skiers and snow borders with a fresh look of the powder in the mountains. the holiday season is here, which means it's time for the volkswagen sign-then-drive event. for practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a german-engineered volkswagen. like the sporty, advanced new jetta... and the 2015 motor trend car of the year all-new golf. if you're wishing for a new volkswagen this season... just about all you need is a finely tuned... pen. get zero due at signing, zero down, zero deposit, and zero first month's payment on select new volkswagen models. >> grant: tonight is snowing in the sierra and this video shows the power thanks to the huge rainstorm that park itself over the bay area. more and more resorts are opening due to the affleck of snow that fell late last week you can see people outside enjoying this now. >> jacqueline: first, let's talk about land and the bay area. spotty showers that will go into the morning to meet tomorrow with a second round of rain that will impact the bay area from 1:00 p.m. to 73 per store will also occur later this week we see plenty of showers here over and the north bay moving towards the south bay was heavier rains approaching paul alto and sunnyvale. >> jacqueline: moving up to vallejo and you see moderate rain approaching along at the north bay and highway 101 barrett it could produce and water sprouts over the coastal waters. here is at futurecast with a lot of activity north of us. after midnight we will see a few more showers at the golden gate bridge. pushing into the letter morning hours to commit is not so bad creek >> jacqueline: the afternoon commute will be wet and continued to run the evening and turn more isolated as body into the overnight hours rainfall totals between now and wednesday up to 3 in.. generally most of the balance will be closer to an inch of rain for the next couple of days. as for the sierra, we will cease now from 3 to 8 in.. and winter weather advisory is in of fact. a factor >> jacqueline: still more could fall at the highest here is to look at the extended forecast with running for tomorrow and showers in to wednesday and thursday. and a third round of rain as we get into friday. >> pam: official said police heard gunfire inside the cafe. and that is when they moved entered it two hostages were killed along with the alleged gun fired gunmen. a u.s. intelligence official says the alleged gunman had been arrested previous for extremist activity. authorities say it appears that he acted along for it. >> catherine: this was the same as police were dabbling at one of three homes. they know who is responsible a man named bradley stone who targeted his ex-wife and several members of her family, including her 14 year old niece. member say she was a caring mother who had been tarred who have been arguing with him in regard to child custody. he will >> in the military and i do not know why he left but i do know that he has issues stemming from that. >> catherine: police said they found her inside, shot and hit. she had recently became engaged print the two young children were all harm current >> pam: how much mail the 1 bay area up post office is processing this day, >> catherine: we are only 10 days away from christmas and this happens to the misery but it is busy nationwide. --missouri >> catherine: across the country, roughly way over last year of cards to the meltdown in more creek it is a very different story in the holiday season. >> pam: why you will not see the annual santacon anymore. . >> pam: people behaving badly, stanley roberts rise along with the c h p. >> jacqueline: we are still simmering over portions of the bay area. pretty heavy take a look down the peninsula and the south bay where we are seeing more moderate line moving and about in half an inch of rain per autoworker it headed toward the east bank quickly trekking in over at union city grit about 30 minutes. we will talk more about what to expect for tomorrow, coming out! >> reporter: in san jose calling for the firing of officer post twitter paid demonstration regarding police killings. the tweet on sunday state threatened me or my family and i will use my god-given right to kill you. going on to say by the way if anyone feels they cannot read or their lives a matter i will be at the movies of the call caring in my gun. the police unit has all condemned this comment. >> some are thinking twice to posting the courts of santo next year. there is one fella here that looks like santa claus on one of the original founders says santa kind will live on. >> reporter: san francisco the rain storm caused a mud slide or rock slide patrick brooks came tumbling down on route 545 on chestnut street creek they feel on top of the interest to a parking lot in front of this building here. after the rocks were moved at protective barrier will be placed in case it happens again. >> keep a look at the situation to find out how dangerous it is and the remaining piece of rocks. >> reporter: receded at two mobile home parks which have flooded during last week's storms. you get also see one of the water pumps that were brought in man and the last couple of days. it is the the case that we are working to get more rain. the rain has stopped in redwood city kron 4 >> reporter: residents who live along streets like this are used to bloodying outside their home at problem that has been ongoing and has intensified brother present grain. >> here on the bottom on this monday there was certainly a very rainy day. coming down very hard. there was also this element to deal with. a very cold day. that kind of made it very miserable mobilize flooding was a bit challenging at times. >> reporter: here at s f o there have been over a hundred and 20 cancellations today because of the weather out here creek several passengers have been way to-three hours to get a flight out. and some may not even have that opportunity the delays will continue until about midnight tonight accurate reporting at the airlines to mike kron 4 news. >> reporter: this was the same onside the mobile home park where the most the residents were ok and no one was hurt as the dodge wires when they were forced from their homes. there was a power outage that impacted residents and their area. the others suffered damage to their carport separate rob fladeboe kron 4 news. >> reporter: we did see quite a few rain showers this afternoon including moderate drinker it zoom in and does the senate bill is picking up more rain. sunnyvale. with more moderate rainfall. >> reporter: >> jacqueline: you this see the rainfall would over a half inch per hour. even further to the north as we take a look at the storm trackers as shourd continue. after midnight we will see more showers. second round will come through with a second storm and the main front impact through the afternoon creek affected will as we move into the evening hours. (male announcer): now, here's stanley roberts who found some people behaving badly. >> reporter: when the chp is on patrol you never know what you may find. for instance, to see in front with no lights. for the record we were just riding across the bridge looking for weather situated issues. the officer decide to have a chat with the driver. the driver to to use to move forward without pulling to the right. >> reporter: when that didn't happen print the officer instructed the driver to move to the left creek still no response. so we continue with a siren. >>siren. pull to the left. final >> reporter: lee the driver pulled over and the officer has a chat with the driver. asking the driver if she has had anything to drink and the driver says no. also offering are requesting proof of license and insurance. the conversation continued outside the car with officer pulled a series of test >> reporter: the final test was administered which was a breathalyzer. it was calculated at officer keating places are under arrest. her blood content would double the legal drinking number. stanley roberts kron 4 news for it >> pam: most homes are already decked out for the holidays. however, there is a potential danger associated with all of those decorations. we will have more next. >> reporter: be sure to tune and to kron4 tonight at 8:00 p.m. with talk more about this in my tech report gate slate kron 4 news. ♪ with kaiser permanente, you'll connect with your doctor any time, anywhere. another way care and coverage together makes life easier. ♪ become a member of kaiser permanente. because together, we thrive. ♪ >> pam: consumer product safety estimates 13,000 americans had to emergency rooms for treatment of injuries related to holiday decorations. christmas trees and candles pose for big fire risk. >> any decorations or radiator heat source that is in the same vicinity of christmas trees or candles is not good. >> pam: what is next for jim harbaugh? find out why one and f l a player is an act to apologize for wearing a t-shirt. (male announcer): it's now time for gary radnich from the jack in the box sports desk. >> gary: what is next for jim harbaugh? >> gary: seattle is just a better team. kapernick cannot get going. the seahawks were coming home creek 17-7. more than likely to gangs will remain in his 49 career. hist--two games, will remain cre >> playing for the team and the honor of the game. smart >> gary: to just come out and say, this is about but he will have all first trip he will can go over to the raiders or michigan? when i was talking about this earlier with pam fricke someone else's team, if there isn't this agreement the owners would usually win. i about from 200 to 300 text per day from young fans thirty year-old guys who just do not get it? harbaugh did this for them and harbaugh did that for them why does he have to go? if you do not get along with the bedside chat and coming off a season like this one the coach has to go. but do not worry creek the raiders will have an opening cre. >> gary: running 80 yds. the raiders dropped 2 m 4 tanker it if you want to laugh a little bit before the niners may have messed them up. they want to being one and 13 to have the no. 1 pick in the an f l draft. if they have not beaten 49ers they will have the no. 1 pick for it but they enjoyed it creek >> gary: we go on and on about this. >> gary: the new stadium did go up. >> gary: you can argue and be your own man but if you tell the owner or the owner father went to many times to keep your friends of the locker room and will wear thin. >> pam: you do not think that it will be passed up? patched >> gary: know. i do not think so >> pam: you have to believe in forgiveness, gary >> gary: all right brith shift to something else more serious. hawkins toward a t- shirt. rice was a 12 year old boy killed by cleveland police for planting a toy gun. the police officer was not charged. >> the number one reason for me wearing this t-shirt was the thought of what happened to this young boy happening to my austin. scares the living hell off of me. >> gary: the top of the and the bay. after they beat dallas and did it again yesterday. coming in behind the victory they have now won 16 straight the golden state warriors beat new orleans yesterday. >> the fact that we kept our team together. you can see the foundation of the next couple of years blossoming because of that continuity cree >> gary:21-2 memphis tomorrow. >> gary: these guys extent a hand to the community. car is like a choirboy threat hope that every baby sitter would be steve kerr. if you have the 49 as an adult ago will going to the warriors and giants away and hardball doing his own thing with this standoffish attitude even when they win the see where that is upsetting to people because you are looking bad by comparison creek >> pam: it does not feel well right now. sacramento >> gary: need a new coach because they fired their coach mike malone. the kings with 13 losses and 11 went to rid he's one of the guys that are compared to a genius. assistant coach tyrone will serve as an inch from his coach. and george carl everett popular figure loves basketball says, if there are interested in me i am interested in them. we will see if he will get back to business. >> gary: 3 years $23 million, nothing spectacular. jon lester, what does he look like when he signed for $155 million? >> pam: happy. >> gary: yes he does look happy. >> gary: reminded me of a guy years ago mike hampton, why he chose colorado? he said colorado had disclosed the systems instead of saying the money. >> pam: still ahead and the problem for sony pitcher could get worse. the hackers that and the tragic company computer. >> pam: a warning from the hackers that industry is selling computers. they say that they are not finished. -sony. large quantities of data at it will be more interesting creek the guardians of peace have already exposed trolled of sensitive data. morning media outlets not to report on the stolen information or else creek the company employers sent a letter stating that it will not consent to the use of stolen material indicating that the perpetrators have attacked some of the sony employees. >> jacqueline: spotty showers for the next rest of the evening. plastic a look at the south bay with moderate rains during to the area in milpitas seemed the worst of it right now more moderate showers and highway 101 through windsor. seoul for tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. another band of rain will move and creek possibly in to wednesday and thursday before the third storm that will impact is on friday. it does look like the weekend will state a little dry. >> pam: we'll be back tonight at 8:00 with the latest news. see you then. the insider with perspective on today's top trending stories. >> beyonce's flawless transformation. >> secrets from behind the scenes of the video music awards. >> and and lori gets intimate with brittany who's showing us her unmentionables. >> okay. >> with that hair and that face, you're going to do well here. winner. >> i'm with my brother from another mother, george lopez. >> a lot of people think you and i look like each other. >> i take a trip back to school for facts of life 35th anniversary reunion. >> we're still friends. >> the new social media trend, blind date vacation. >> i'm not getting paid. they're paying for airfare and dinner. >> it is an escort service in disguise? 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and record temperatures are ready to fall. jim is off. i am rick williams. a bitter blast of winter before we make it to thanksgiving. but the arctic temperatures are causing a bigger headache in upstate new york. it is burying buffalo. what is supposed to be a roadway. and a driver that got stranded shot this selfie video of his predicament. the authorities are blaming the deaths of four people on this storm. and one last shot to show you. this is how it looks in philadelphia. the town of philadelphia, new york that is. we can be thankful it's hundreds of miles away. cecily tynan join us us at the big board. what is causing the wicked weather. >> it's all about the winds. the winds that brought us the wind chills. lake erie is not frozen yet. it picking up the moisture and depositing it in the form of snow. in buffalo is not measuring in inches but feet. imagine inside of this house. it's lancaster, new york opening up and the snow is over your head. the big problem is that it's heavy, wet snow. this is causing life-threatening conditions. this was a door that was blown in cannot contain the weight of the snow. into tonight, 5 to 6 feet of snow in lackawanna. there is a cold front moving through thursday night. up here, by friday morning they can get an additional 2 feet of snow. some parts of the region, 7 to 8 feet of snow this week. so you see that. you hate to complain about our weather. right now the temperatures in the 20s. these are the record lows tonight. we are getting into record territory. 20 in philadelphia to 10 in the poconos. i'll let you how cold it will get and how it will feel for your morning commute. thanthank you. any new video of the buffalo area buried under snow, on the air starting at 4:30 tomorrow morning. breaking news tonight from chopper 6, along the scene at the new jersey turnpike. three tractor-trailers crashed and burst into flames and killed one person. it happened at exit a in cranberry township. the traffic, as you see, is backed up for miles. now to the deadly synagogue massacre in jerusalem. four rabbis were killed and laid to rest per the tradition. they stormed through with knives and a meat cleaver and a handgun. moshe twersky once lived in lakewood, new jersey. he learned of the tragedy overnight. >> i walked into the apartment. he was crying and sobbing. >> this is a loss to the entire jewish community. we are reeling at this horrific news. it's terrible. the two men responsible were shot and killed by the police. people inside of a worship site werwere targeted. "action news" reporter sharrie williams is in the slate satellite center to explain. >>reporter:the estis suggesting that the tw-- they arelaunching. there is new information in the deaths of the c.e.o. john sheridan and wife joyce. joyce sheridan was stabbed at least eight times. one family member described the attack as savage and done in a fit of rage. the couple was remembered at the memorial held in october. >> we lost a giant that lived here and did a lot for the state of the new jersey. >> he kept me in stitches all the time. you never knew what was going to come out of joyce's mouth. we had a great time. >>reporter:john sheridan had stab wounds to his side and penetrating wound to his neck. another new detail is that john sheridan's body was found beneath an armoire that was doused with gasoline and set on fire. both may have been murdered. that is a far cry of murder-suicide. the somerset prosecutor's office stated that the couple was found september 28th after a fire was set in their upstairs bedroom. this marks the first report of stab wounds since the two died two months ago. there is criticism how the prosecutor has handled the investigation. in light of the new information, pointing to murder, the four children of the cente sheridans. it's not helpful getting to the truth what happened to our parents. late tonight abc confirmed that they want to put on additional manpower and expertise in this complex case. sharrie williams, "channel~6 action news." thank you. in other news the investigation continues into that devastating fire that ripped through the columbus farmers' market in burlington county. the four alarm blaze left behind a charred shell along route 206. the farmers' market was not open when it i ignited. they are wondering what the future holding for them now? >> the building that we were located in is entirely gone. everything that we have is gone. >> as the fire marshal and the springfield township police department investigate a cause. the flea market could re-open for the busy holiday season. a bucks county father proclaims his innocence as he is led off to jail. coco wallace is responsible for his toddler's son death. he died of a fatal drug overdose. >> it doesn't make sense. >> 2-year-old sebastian assumed oxycodone pills in bristol. he took him to the e.r. where the little boy died. there was no accident and charged wallace with criminal homicide. and it will be a winning spot for the second casinos. the letters award a gambling awa casino. they hope to open in two years. mayor nutter praised the decision. the jobs and the tax revenue that the casino will provide. king of prussia showed off its plan for a major expansion that connects the court and the plaza. no need to walk outside. 155,000 square foot addition provides enough space for 60, 70 stores and dining options. construction is expected to be finished in the fall of 2016. it was not construction but demolition that took the main stage in wilmington, delaware. the crews imploded a building at 11 and north jefferson street. the parked cars were coated by the dust plume. it was a small spectacle. here is one last look at the work to level of the building. john bon jovi was in the spotlight. not for his music. he received the mary anderson humanitarian award following the footsteps of oprah winfrey and sidney portier to name a few. >> performances by john battiste. [♪ singing ] and all-american rejects in honor of this year's recipient john bon jovi. >> to do the work that we are called to do and realize our vision of a better world because we can and will make that difference. >>reporter:it filled the concert hall would not be comet by host and funny woman wanda sykes. >> you are good at everything that you do, music, acting, goo. >> it's often we see the jersey native off the stage donating his time and money to help the hungry the homeless to less fortunate. his organization is impacting one person at a time. they could not but help to sing his praises. >> he never has forgotten his roots. >> it benefits young artists in our city. barry gordy received the honor last year. >> and still to come on "action news" tonight a controversial bill dies in the washington area by one vote. we'll tell you how our local senators voted. because the grinch that stole christmas, at least some delivery boxes with a child in tow. the government wants to widen the airbag recall even more. the wind chill makes it feel like 11. how cold it will be for your morning commute and how we climb out of the freeze in your accu-weather. we are joined by ali gorman. it promises to tighten sagging chin. they call it a knife-less necklift. and ducis rodgers hears from the eagles after practice today when "action news" comes right back. floo it's on? 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it certainly is. it's going to be that way through the wok week into the weekend. we are not going to last forever. showing rain-free conditions and snow-fresnow-free conditions hee tonight. and a beautiful picture of the skyline. currently in philadelphia, 25. down from the high of 32. which is 23 degrees below normal. normal high this time of year is 55. allentown 21. wilmington 24. sea isle is 27 degrees. there is enough of a breeze to create a wind chill of 11. 11 in allentown. 8 in lancaster. it feel like 2 i 12 in millvill. the temperatures are dropping near record lows. we are showing part of reason why we don't have any clouds over head and clouds help to insulate the earth. the winds are diminishing. the temperatures are tumbling and tomorrow it's a cold day. the high tomorrow 33. it won't feel as bad as today. the winds will not be as strong. instead of the wind chills in the teens, they will be in the 20s. bright sunshine. the high 45 degrees. the cold front moves late in the day on thursday. behind the system on friday we have a shot of chilly air. the temperatures will drop back down into the 30s. load of sunshine but bitter cold. 6:00, 22. by 8:00, only 24 degrees. and once again wind chills will be down in the low teens for your morning. the exclusive seven-day forecast. plenty of the the sunshine. not as strong as today. this thursday is good. 45. a good amount of sunshine and breezy. the temperatures drop on friday 38. saturday 42 degrees. if you are running the rothman 8k i'll see you there. the temperatures will be in the 30s. on sunday for the philadelphia marathon to gets mild. it clouds up. the afternoon high 58 degrees. if you are heading to the eagles game i think we will have showers. by the end of the game, 58 the high. monday rain tapering off to showers. 66. tuesday the high 61. in the course of less than a week 32 to today to 66 on monday big changes. everything is temporary. everybody is temporary. >> an audience explored the events of a rare screening. they invited the neighbors to take part in a panel discussion. the event was called unedited in north philadelphia from girard to lehigh. >> hello, america. it's tuesday november 18th. the jackpot is estimated a at $35 million. let's see if i can make you a millionaire. 53. followed by 68. up next we have 39. the next number is 37. the final white ball for tuesday evening 75. the mega number is 6. 32, 68, 39, 37, 75, and the gold mega ball is 6. good luck, play on, america hey! it's mister monopoly. and the new monopoly millionaires' club lottery game. where you have 3 ways to become a millionaire. first, win the top prize of up to 25 million dollars when you match all the draw numbers. or win 1 million dollars when you match all the club numbers. or you could win up to one million dollars as a contestant on the exciting new tv game show in las vegas. play the monopoly millionaires' club game today. there could be more million dollar prizes than any lottery game in us history. the pennsylvania lottery. benefits older pennsylvanians every day. which means it's time for the volkswagen sign-then-drive event. for practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a german-engineered volkswagen. like the sporty, advanced new jetta... and the 2015 motor trend car of the year all-new golf. if you're wishing for a new volkswagen this season... just about all you need is a finely tuned... pen. hurry in and get zero due at signing, zero down, zero deposit, and zero first month's payment on select new volkswagen models. ♪i want it all! ♪and i want it now! your toys want more. they need more. so get more guaranteed from verizon fios. including your favorite movie channels, blazing fast internet and $400 back. all for this amazing price online, guaranteed for 2 years with a 2-year agreement. so take the hint. and get more guaranteed today. call the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800.974.6006 tty/v ducis is here. the eagles are trying to getting back on the win column. learn from the past. do not dwell on it. that is the eels approach what happened to them in green bay. can you hear me? all right. they are focused on sunday's game from tennessee. the corrections were made on the practice field today. once the birds got in front of the microphones the menta messas simple, move on. >> times yosometimes you get be. we are strong and i am happy. >> we are excited to get better. we still have all the confidence in the world. we know we are a great team. we are looking forward to proving that this week. >> and earl wolff's season is done. thethey brought back carmichaeln late august. scott laughton, why, drew is out with an injury. he suffered the injury yesterday in practice. going through the tape, we noticed that he difficulties during yesterday's workout. he will miss days not weeks. it causes them to shake up their line as bit. >> you know, it feels comfortable. i played enough it's an easy transition for me. whatever i am thrown tomorrow i will be ready for. >> still to come we'll check in local college basketball team. an unbelievable shot that net as young man some cash. - ( helicopter whirring ) - ( roars ) ( siren wails ) ( pop music playing ) ♪ when you're ready ♪ ready, ready, ready ♪ come and get it ♪ get it, get it ♪ when you're ready, come and get it ♪ ♪ na na na na ♪ na na na na na na na ♪ ♪ when you're ready, come and get it ♪ ♪ na na na na... female announcer: it's a great big world and it can all be yours. here and only here. ♪ come and get it. ♪ ♪ with the name the philadelphia region has trusted for over 75 years, you have the compassion and security of blue cross. giving you the power to keep pace. independence blue cross. live fearless. >>announcer:closed captioning brought to you by fulton bank, a great cd for your savings needs. its based on a deposit of one thousand dollars. la salle scores 71 points. the explorers are 2-0. and di rider wins 73-57. a one in a million shot. a fan has a chance to earn some cash. off of the backboard and in. for that amazing feat he gets $500. we will be calling the bank tomorrow. finally kids lay down the law in university city this evening. they were the lawyers, witnesses and jury during a mock trial at drexel university. it centered around a kidnapping. they had to present evidence and deliver a verdict. 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how low will they go? the day that never got above freezing is plunging in the 20s with wind chills in the teens. and record temperatures are ready to fall. jim is off. i am rick williams. a bitter blast of winter before we make it to thanksgiving. but the arctic temperatures are causing a bigger headache in upstate new york. it is burying buffalo. what is supposed to be a roadway. and a driver that got stranded shot this selfie video of his predicament. the authorities are blaming the deaths of four people on this storm. and one last shot to show you. this is how it looks in philadelphia. the town of philadelphia, new york that is. we can be thankful it's hundreds of miles away. cecily tynan join us us at the big board. what is causing the wicked weather. >> it's all about the winds. the winds that brought us the wind chills. lake erie is not frozen yet. it picking up the moisture and depositing it in the form of snow. in buffalo is not measuring in inches but feet. imagine inside of this house. it's lancaster, new york opening up and the snow is over your head. the big problem is that it's heavy, wet snow. this is causing life-threatening conditions. this was a door that was blown in cannot contain the weight of the snow. into tonight, 5 to 6 feet of snow in lackawanna. there is a cold front moving through thursday night. up here, by friday morning they can get an additional 2 feet of snow. some parts of the region, 7 to 8 feet of snow this week. so you see that. you hate to complain about our weather. right now the temperatures in the 20s. these are the record lows tonight. we are getting into record territory. 20 in philadelphia to 10 in the poconos. i'll let you how cold it will get and how it will feel for your morning commute. thanthank you. any new video of the buffalo area buried under snow, on the air starting at 4:30 tomorrow morning. breaking news tonight from chopper 6, along the scene at the new jersey turnpike. three tractor-trailers crashed and burst into flames and killed one person. it happened at exit a in cranberry township. the traffic, as you see, is backed up for miles. now to the deadly synagogue massacre in jerusalem. four rabbis were killed and laid to rest per the tradition. they stormed through with knives and a meat cleaver and a handgun. moshe twersky once lived in lakewood, new jersey. he learned of the tragedy overnight. >> i walked into the apartment. he was crying and sobbing. >> this is a loss to the entire jewish community. we are reeling at this horrific news. it's terrible. the two men responsible were shot and killed by the police. people inside of a worship site werwere targeted. "action news" reporter sharrie williams is in the slate satellite center to explain. >>reporter:the estis suggesting that the tw-- they arelaunching. there is new information in the deaths of the c.e.o. john sheridan and wife joyce. joyce sheridan was stabbed at least eight times. one family member described the attack as savage and done in a fit of rage. the couple was remembered at the memorial held in october. >> we lost a giant that lived here and did a lot for the state of the new jersey. >> he kept me in stitches all the time. you never knew what was going to come out of joyce's mouth. we had a great time. >>reporter:john sheridan had stab wounds to his side and penetrating wound to his neck. another new detail is that john sheridan's body was found beneath an armoire that was doused with gasoline and set on fire. both may have been murdered. that is a far cry of murder-suicide. the somerset prosecutor's office stated that the couple was found september 28th after a fire was set in their upstairs bedroom. this marks the first report of stab wounds since the two died two months ago. there is criticism how the prosecutor has handled the investigation. in light of the new information, pointing to murder, the four children of the cente sheridans. it's not helpful getting to the truth what happened to our parents. late tonight abc confirmed that they want to put on additional manpower and expertise in this complex case. sharrie williams, "channel~6 action news." thank you. in other news the investigation continues into that devastating fire that ripped through the columbus farmers' market in burlington county. the four alarm blaze left behind a charred shell along route 206. the farmers' market was not open when it i ignited. they are wondering what the future holding for them now? >> the building that we were located in is entirely gone. everything that we have is gone. >> as the fire marshal and the springfield township police department investigate a cause. the flea market could re-open for the busy holiday season. a bucks county father proclaims his innocence as he is led off to jail. coco wallace is responsible for his toddler's son death. he died of a fatal drug overdose. >> it doesn't make sense. >> 2-year-old sebastian assumed oxycodone pills in bristol. he took him to the e.r. where the little boy died. there was no accident and charged wallace with criminal homicide. and it will be a winning spot for the second casinos. the letters award a gambling rea casino. they hope to open in two years. mayor nutter praised the decision. the jobs and the tax revenue that the casino will provide. king of prussia showed off its plan for a major expansion that connects the court and the plaza. no need to walk outside. 155,000 square foot addition provides enough space for 60, 70 stores and dining options. construction is expected to be finished in the fall of 2016. it was not construction but demolition that took the main stage in wilmington, delaware. the crews imploded a building at 11 and north jefferson street. the parked cars were coated by the dust plume. it was a small spectacle. here is one last look at the work to level of the building. john bon jovi was in the spotlight. not for his music. he received the mary anderson humanitarian award following the footsteps of oprah winfrey and sidney portier to name a few. >> performances by john battiste. [♪ singing ] and all-american rejects in honor of this year's recipient john bon jovi. >> to do the work that we are called to do and realize our vision of a better world because we can and will make that difference. >>reporter:it filled the concert hall would not be comet by host and funny woman wanda sykes. >> you are good at everything that you do, music, acting, good hair. >> it's often we see the jersey native off the stage donating his time and money to help the hungry the homeless to less fortunate. his organization is impacting one person at a time. they could not but help to sing his praises. >> he never has forgotten his roots. >> it benefits young artists in our city. barry gordy received the honor last year. >> and still to come on "action news" tonight a controversial bill dies in the washington area by one vote. we'll tell you how our local senators voted. because the grinch that stole christmas, at least some delivery boxes with a child in tow. the government wants to widen the airbag recall even more. the wind chill makes it feel like 11. how cold it will be for your morning commute and how we climb out of the freeze in your accu-weather. we are joined by ali gorman. it promises to tighten sagging chin. they call it a knife-less necklift. and ducis rodgers hears from the eagles after practice today when "action news" comes right fact. fast-acting advil is designed with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core technology stopping headaches and other tough pain. fast. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil. deciding between buying food and health care is something else. healthy pa is now here to help, with name-brand health insurance that costs as little as a few basic groceries. if you're uninsured, visit healthypa.com to learn more. police in upper darby are reminding people it's the season for thieves to steal your packages. there was a hoist on the 7000 block of greenwood avenue. a thief was standing by and watched while a baby was in his other arm. the police are working to get this man of the streets. the keystone xl pipeline was blocked by democrats. president obama is opposed to finishing the pipeline stretched from canada to the gulf of mexico. and implied a veto. the republicans are vowing to pass it once they control both chambers in january. and the democratic senators and chris coons of delaware voted against it. bob casey joined all republicans including pat toomey in support. regulators are saying that a company can contribute to the problem. there are twoins that are reported outside otwo incidents. and the knifeless necklift. it's purely kos i cosmetic. >> in many cases it's not enough of a issue to warrant surgery. there is non-invasive option. we followed one woman through the process. 53-year-old anna moore has a job taincludes entertainin includes entertaining celebrities. she started to notice in pictures that her neck was not as tight as it used to be. she reached out to stephen davis. >> i wanted something to give me a fresher look. >>reporter:dr. davis suggested a lift otherwise known as a knifeless necklift. some are caught between. they are too early for a surgical necklift but want something to tighten their skin. other non-invasive neck procedures didn't do much. >> this does the best. >>reporter:first the area is numb. then radio frequency energy is applied to the affected area. >> we are using it to go past the skin surface, we are going past that and addressing all the elastin fibers. >>reporter:the best results are three to four weeks. we caught up with anna after four weeks. >> i saw a big difference. i love it. >>reporter:here is her before and after photos. >> you are seeing a better angle of where her mandible is. it was sagging and not as sharp. >>reporter:because she got a higher intensity of energy she only needed one treatment. it can be done on other areas of the face and body. it costs $3,000. if you are interested in it it's best to see a doctor that is board certified in plastic surgery. thank you, ali. people that lost their bottle to cancer are remembered in south jersey. they hosted the tree of light ceremony. the people that lost their lives to the disease were read aloud. and cecily tynan is here now. it's beginning to feel a lot like winter out there? it certainly is. it's going to be that way through the wok week into the weekend. we are not going to last forever. showing rain-free conditions and snow-fresnow-free conditions hee tonight. and a beautiful picture of the skyline. currently in philadelphia, 25. down from the high of 32. which is 23 degrees below normal. normal high this time of year is 55. allentown 21. wilmington 24. sea isle is 27 degrees. there is enough of a breeze to create a wind chill of 11. 11 in allentown. 8 in lancaster. it feel like 2 i 12 in millvill. the temperatures are dropping near record lows. we are showing part of reason why we don't have any clouds over head and clouds help to insulate the earth. the winds are diminishing. the temperatures are tumbling and tomorrow it's a cold day. the high tomorrow 33. it won't feel as bad as today. the winds will not be as strong. instead of the wind chills in the teens, they will be in the 20s. bright sunshine. the high 45 degrees. the cold front moves late in the day on thursday. behind the system on friday we have a shot of chilly air. the temperatures will drop back down into the 30s. load of sunshine but bitter cold. 6:00, 22. by 8:00, only 24 degrees. and once again wind chills will be down in the low teens for your morning. the exclusive seven-day forecast. plenty of the the sunshine. not as strong as today. this thursday is good. 45. a good amount of sunshine and breezy. the temperatures drop on friday 38. saturday 42 degrees. if you are running the rothman 8k i'll see you there. the temperatures will be in the 30s. on sunday for the philadelphia marathon to gets mild. it clouds up. the afternoon high 58 degrees. if you are heading to the eagles game i think we will have showers. by the end of the game, 58 the high. monday rain tapering off to showers. 66. tuesday the high 61. in the course of less than a week 32 to today to 66 on monday big changes. everything is temporary. everybody is temporary. >> an audience explored the events of a rare screening. they invited the neighbors to take part in a panel discussion. the event was called unedited in north philadelphia from girard to lehigh. >> hello, america. it's tuesday november 18th. the jackpot is estimated a at $35 million. let's see if i can make you a millionaire. 53. followed by 68. up next we have 39. the next number is 37. the final white ball for tuesday evening 75. the mega number is 6. 32, 68, 39, 37, 75, and the gold mega ball is all the hassle that comes with thouselling or trading in. of we make selling your car, truck or suv, fast, safe and fair with three simple steps: one -- get your free online valuation. two -- drive to your local car-buying center. three -- walk out with a check in as little as thirty minutes. buying cars is all we do. all makes and models and no dealership pressure we'll even settle your loan or lease. so, don't wait. get your free online valuation now at webuyanycar.com. when you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. wherever it is. advil stops pain right where it starts. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil. ducis is here. the eagles are trying to getting back on the win column. learn from the past. do not dwell on it. that is the eels approach what happened to them in green bay. can you hear me? all right. they are focused on sunday's game from tennessee. the corrections were made on the practice field today. once the birds got in front of the microphones the menta messas simple, move on. >> times yosometimes you get be. we are strong and i am happy. >> we are excited to get better. we still have all the confidence in the world. we know we are a great team. we are looking forward to proving that this week. >> and earl wolff's season is done. thethey brought back carmichaeln late august. scott laughton, why, drew is out with an injury. he suffered the injury yesterday in practice. going through the tape, we noticed that he difficulties during yesterday's workout. he will miss days not weeks. it causes them to shake up their line as bit. >> you know, it feels comfortable. i played enough it's an easy transition for me. whatever i am thrown tomorrow i will be ready for. >> still to come we'll check in local college basketball team. >> still to come we'll check in local college basketball team. an unbelievable s party on people! blinds to go's 60th anniversary sale continues celebrating with 20% off the entire store. you heard right, 20% off the entire store. we're talking employee pricing baby! hey, you need 'em, you want 'em, and now there's no better time to get 'em. blinds to go. blinds for life. before the first sneeze, help whenprotect with a spray. ead. before the first tissue, help defend with a wipe. and help prevent with lysol. to get ten times more protection and kill 99.9% of germs around the house. this season, help protect your family with lysol. start healthing. finally, the purple pill,hr the #1 prescribed acid blocking brand, comes without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protection™ blinds to go's 60th anniversary sale continues! woo-hoo! as our gift to you, take 20% off the entire store. twenty percent! the entire store! hey, with savings like that, you could redo your entire house. just sayin'! blinds to go. blinds for life. its based on a deposit of one thousand dollars. la salle scores 71 points. the explorers are 2-0. and di rider wins 73-57. a one in a million shot. a fan has a chance to earn some cash. off of the backboard and in. for that amazing feat he gets $500. we will be calling the bank tomorrow. finally kids lay down the law in university city this evening. they were the lawyers, witnesses and jury during a mock trial at drexel university. it centered around a kidnapping. they had to present evidence and deliver a verdict. "jimmy kimmel live" is next followed by night line. the guests are jason bateman and courtney love. they will reveal the sexiest man alive. and "action news" continues at 4:30 with tamala edwards, matt o'donnell, david henry and consider cakaren rogers with tr. for the entire "action news" team we'll see you tomorrow. >>announcer:"action news" is sponsored by elkins ♪ with the card most accepted in the philadelphia region, you have the compassion and security of blue cross. giving you the confidence to move forward. independence blue cross. live fearless.

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i still only had a shell. he had taken all of that money and not spent it on my house you. >> reporter: do you feel any remorse about that at all? when you think about the fact that that money was for her kid's can college. annette and jeffrey goldstein also testified they hired suture clear to put an addition on their home for annette's ailing mother. >> he kept coming to me asking me for more money. >> reporter: not only was succi convicted of failing to perform the work he promised on their home the goldsteins show his shoddy work placed annette's mother in physical danger. >> she went to use the bathroom later in the evening and she walked in and fell through right down into the basement. >> reporter: although this conviction could land 59-year-old succi behind bars for the rest of his life there's little chance his victims will ever see the money they lost. >> we're happy we could get justice. they wait add long time. >> reporter: succi didn't testify on his own behalf. and while it's clear the jury found he didn't perform the work he was supposed to, one mystifying question remains. >> well what happened to the money? can you tell us what happened to the money? >> that's enough. >> reporter: now, while there is some speculation we may never know what happened to that $2.5 million. he left the courthouse in handcuffs after being convicted of 27 separate felonies. sentencing is scheduled for next week. live in doylestown, wendy saltzman channel6 "action news." >> thank you wendy. a double shooting in the cityport richmond left a man dead. it happened before 11:30 in the 2000 block of bell more street. one victim was found shot in a car, the other o short distance away. no arrests have been made. also in port richmond police are asking for your help finding a man who robbed this 7-eleven on aramingo avenue. investigators say about 3:00 a.m. yesterday morning the man walked into the store trying to buy two cartons of cigarettes but look what happened. when his bank card was rejected he jumped over the counter hit the employee, grabbed the cigarettes and ran. if you know anything police would love to hear from you. >> it will be an emotional evening for family and friends of fallen philadelphia firefighter joyce craig. first responders from across the nation will help honor her life and her sacrifice at a viewing this evening. "action news" reporter annie mccormick is live in west oak lane with more. annie. >> reporter: rick you're right an emotional evening and weekend because today really begins two days of mourning for the fallen firefighter. take aliunde look a look behind me. police officers diverting track. expecting hundreds of firefighters and first responders from across the can country and you can see about an hour before the viewing already many people are lining up to come. but take a look at this video from earlier today where a police motorcade escorted family members of joyce craig to the funeral home ahead of the 6:00 p.m. viewing. two black limousines pulled up and waited as firefighters assembled so they could greet the family and pay their respects. craig leaves behind a large extended family and her two children, a 16-year-old boy an 16 month old girl. joyce craig spent 11 years as a firefighter in philadelphia one of 150 women she's the first female to die in the line of duty in philadelphia. she served in four fire houses engine 64 was her final home. she died fighting a tuesday morning fire in west oak lane helping one person to safety. here is a look at the viewings, the times and also for the funeral. tonight it is from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. at batchelor brothers funeral services. and tomorrow 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. again at the same facility. and saturday from 10:00 a.m. to noon, that's where the funeral services will be and it will be followed by intern. at ivy hill cemetery and that location again is here at 71st and broad. you can also expect that funeral procession to go through the streets of philadelphia. members of the community are welcome to come out and pay their respects as the funeral procession does papas them by. reporting live in west oak lane annie mccormack channel6 "action news." >> from our delaware news room a teen girl sentenced to 16 years in prison for kidnapping an 89-year-old woman and locking her in the trunk of a car for two days. jacqueline perez pled guilty to carjacking kidnapping and conspiracy last march at a milford convenience store perez and another teen asked this lady margaret smith for a ride home. smith agreed. that touched off a horrifying ordeal that ended with her alone in cemetery two days later. smith managed to crawl barefoot through that cemetery and call for help. >> reporter: wilmington police have a new tool to fight crime. they showed off their updated forensic base today. the facility will increase efficiency in recovering evidence in investigations. there's also a lift to do comprehensive examinations on cars that may have been used in a crime. officers went through another round of training to learn what all the new technology can do. >> dozens of clergy members from congregations across south jersey joined forces in protest this morning in camden. they stood on the steps of the federal courthouse here holding signs and each other's hands in a show of arity. another protest was held in center city today. chopper 6 hd was overhead as demonstrators marched around city hall and then down j.f.k. boulevard about 2 o'clock this afternoon. here too was the protesters claim of police brutality against blacks. traffic in center city was grid locked for more than an hour. in cleveland ohio a medical examer ruled that the death of a 12-year-old boy shot by a police officer is a case of homicide. tamir rice was killed by a single shot to the abdomen fired by a rookie police officer. investigator say he was carrying a toy gun which the officer believed was real. surveillance video shows that rice was shot within two seconds of the patrol car stopping him. he died the next day. a grand jury will consider whether charges should be filed against that officer. >> developing news from portland oregon where there has been a school shooting. we know three people have been taken to the hospital. officials have not released conditions yet but they say all the victims were conscious when transported. gunfire erupted outside rose mary anderson high school. that school serves at risk students. now, police say they are looking into possible gang ties and we'll bring you more information as soon as it becomes available. there were major problems for air travelers in europe today when a computer failure forced london's air space to completely shut down. officials at heathrow international say there was a power outage at a control center. the shut down lasted 35 minutes but the delays could linger through tomorrow. heathrow alone handles at least 1200 flights a day. british government officials called the situation unacceptable and demanded an investigation. >> all right it is friday night. let's get a check of our "action news" traffic report for you now. >> take it live to matt pelman in the traffic center. >> tgi friday, matt. >> we made it. not so much space between the vehicles on the vine street expressway this evening. we got a pretty major jam because of an earlier vehicle fire that happened right here eastbound between broad and eighth street. as you can see they made progress from the last half hour. now just the right lane remains closed. but you still want to stick with the local vine because the vine street expressway eastbound is still a parking lot. these vehicles stacked up one after another coming off the schuylkill on out to that earlier vehicle fire scene approaching eighth street. the schuylkill itself also suffering from those delays with speeds just in the single digits, 8 miles per hour eastbound, 6 miles per hour westbound. you want to stay local on roads like the river drives, mlk and the kelly instead this afternoon. another crash on 95 southbound by al barnes it's gone but speeds in the teens. because of the viewing for firefighter craig in west oak lane broad street remains closed through 11 o'clock tonight. detours on center at a bus routes because of that blockage. mount laurel crash on 295 southbound approaching route 38. right lane out of commission. some cherry hill a downed pole and wires from an earlier crash closing off split rock drive. cropwell road a possible alternate to that one. in jackson township watch out for a crash as well this one involving a bus along jackson mills road. lots of situations that we will check once again rick and monica in the next half hour. >> thank you matt. >> still ahead on "action news," the flyers have a new opponent the mumps. the national hockey league is battling an outbreak of anilines usually seen in children. what the team is doing to keep its players healthy. cecily. >> another chilly day but at least we saw a few peeks of sunshine here or there but i'm tracking more sunshine and gradually warming temperatures for your weekend in the accuweather forecast. rick. >> all right, cecily. later on an amazing slice of american history. experts prepare to open a time capsule buried by paul revere. what they're hoping to find inside it. >> very cool. those stories and more when "action news" comes right back. >> ♪ so you can see like right here i can just... you know, check my policy here, add a car, ah speak to customer service, check on a claim...you know, all with the ah, tap of my geico app. oh, that's so cool. well, i would disagree with you but, ah, that would make me a liar. no dude, you're on the jumbotron! whoa. ah...yeah, pretty much walked into that one. geico anywhere anytime. just a tap away on the geico app. >> new study shows superstorm sandy took a toll on people's health as well as their homes. scientists noticed a spike in heart attacks and strokes in the new jersey counties hardest hit by the october 2012 hurricane. that's according to rutgers researchers who compared numbers in the two weeks after the storm from the same time period the five previous years. heart attacks increased 22 percent and people were 31 percent more likely to die from them. the study says road blocks may have caused delays in treatment as well and the disruptions to people's lives may have prevented them from taking the proper medications. >> health check now. the national hockey league battling an outbreak of the mumps. the flyers are taking steps to try to keep their players healthy. >> ali gorman joins us were with that story. >> reporter: hey guys. just to give some background the mumps causes plane full swelling. since 1967 the number of cases dropped. the vaccine is good but not 100 percent effective and there has been a spike in the number of cases this year. the flyers may have more to worry about than just winning games. the nhl is facing a mumps outbreak. three players on the anaheim ducks caught the virus. five on the minnesota wild, one player on the new york rangers and two on the new jersey devils. that's when it hit home for some of the flyers. >> not until yesterday when we played new jersey and they had two guys that had the mumps. that kind of scared me. >> not something you want to get but, you know, we get vaccinated the other day so we should be fine hopefully. >> reporter: the vaccine is typically given in two doses during childhood. we're told a booster shot was offered last night and many players and staff hose close to get it. the cdc says two doses of the vaccine is 88 percent effective. the contagious virus is spread through droplets of saliva or mucus which could put athletes at a higher risk because many share water bottles. >> we share. >> reporter: you share. >> we don't put our mouths on it. >> reporter: symptoms of the mumps include fever, muscle aches, tiredness, then swelling of the salivary glands. in most cases, people recover within a few weeks. but there are some serious but rare complications such as hearing loss and swelling to the brain. >> score. >> reporter: the nhl is not alone in seeing a spike in cases. the cdc reports from january to november this year, more than a thousand people caught the mumps. in 2013, that number was 438. coach berube says it is a concern but the flyers medical staff is on top of it. >> they're doing what they can. that doesn't mean that it wouldn't happen. but they're doing what they can. >> reporter: one of the players also told me that he noticed more hand sanitizer around. that's another vital way to prevent getting sick and by the way, if you're not sure if you received two doses of the mumps vaccine as a child, you can ask your doctor to do a blood test to check for immunity. monica. >> thank you ali. kids were making merry at a festive holiday party here in the overbrook section of the steam look at that. christmas car rolls were there, holiday decorations yummy treats for children who live in the neighborhood courtesy of the 17th district police department. santa there too and some special gifts. it's fun way of course to let the little ones meet real police officers. >> sounds like fun. in upstate new york it's all about the holiday beer along with the holiday cheer. this 23-foot tall christmas tree tree is every beer lovers dream made almost entirely out of beer kegs. can you tell? the tree was put up by genesee brewery. took about month to put it altogether. >> they had to be chilly, whew. [laughter] >> rochester, all right. >> still to come on "action news" a new warning involving defective air bags. we'll tell you which vehicles are now being recalled. >> also unearthing a 250 year old slice of americana. revere is about to be opened. what historians think is inside when "action news" comes right back. hey! it's mister monopoly. and the new monopoly millionaires' club lottery game. where you have 3 ways to become a millionaire. first, win the top prize of up to 25 million dollars when you match all the draw numbers. or win 1 million dollars when you match all the club numbers. or you could win up to one million dollars as a contestant on the exciting new tv game show in las vegas. play the monopoly millionaires' club game today. there could be more million dollar prizes than any lottery game in us history. the pennsylvania lottery. benefits older pennsylvanians every day. >> ♪ >> chrysler says more of its cars and trucks were made with air bags that could potentially explode. the automaker adding 179,000 more vehicles to the recall. some air bags have exploded under hot humid condition and they shoot out shrapnel. five drivers have been killed as a result. chrysler's expansion means the company will replace inflators in 12 more high humidity states and u.s. territories. >> leaders at rowan university got down to business today in glassboro to enhance the school's campus. they braved the cold to break ground on the new rohrer college of business building. the facility will allow enrollment within the program to double. unique to the site students will be able to develop entrepreneurial seannachies in will be able to develop doors expected to open in the spring of 2017. >> incredible piece of early american history has been unearthed in boston and crews removed a time capsule from beneath the cornerstone of the massachusetts statehouse yesterday historians belief it was buried there by sam adam and paul revere in 1795. it was dug up once in the 1800s but there's no record of the contents and they put it back. historians hope this time to find coins and newspapers from the era. of course they'll x-ray it this weekend before breaking into it next week and we'll let you know what they find. >> okay. in the meantime, we're going to check that accuweather forecast for the weekend when we come right back. >> looking outside right now sky 6 hd in center city, a meteorologist cecily tynan with the accuweather word coming up. i'd tried laxatives before. he prescribed amitiza (lubiprostone) for my chronic constipation. it works differently than laxatives. man: amitiza is clinically shown to help relieve common symptoms like bloating, abdominal discomfort, hard stools, and straining and help people with chronic constipation go more often. don't take amitiza, if you have a bowel blockage or severe diarrhea. tell your doctor, if your nausea or diarrhea, becomes severe, or if you experience chest tightness or shortness of breath. the most common side effects are nausea, diarrhea, and headache. woman: amitiza helped me find relief from my chronic constipation. ask your doctor if amitiza is right for you. >> time for the accuweather forecast. meteorologist cecily tynan standing by. christmas two weeks away. any signs tonight of reindeer. >> reindeer. >> every year it had to happen. >> no, there isn't honey not as we head into the weekend. this time of the year we get so affectionate. temperatures today, though, show it is getting better. yesterday the day before highs were stuck in the 30's. our morning low 34 degrees. afternoon high made it to 42 degrees still that's 4 degrees below normal but you can see temperatures are definitely on an upward slide. philadelphia currently 39 degrees. trenton 36. millville 39. wilmington 40 degrees. allentown 36 and reading 38. still a little bit breezy out there. factor in the winds, the wind chill makes it feel like 33 in philadelphia. feels like 30 in reading, 30 lancaster and 30 degrees -- 32 degrees i should say in pomona at the atlantic city airport. satellite 6 along with action radar showing that we saw a lot of clouds today but i did see a few peeks of sunshine today during my run. i posted proof on my facebook page. this low pressure is currently over northern maine and finally it will be moving out. high pressure building in over the weekend. what this will do is bring us more sunshine as we head through saturday and sunday and it also will bring us a slight warming trend. in the meantime satellite 6 along with action radar on the west coast showing they're getting inundated with rain. san francisco 4-inches of rape, that's nearly a month's worth of rain in two days and some of the higher elevations reporting as much as 14-inches of rain and unfortunately it's not over quite yet for the west. water vapor imagery shows if you look out into the pacific you see that comma shape. that is an indication of a very strong storm system. this is round two and that will be moving into the west coast on monday and that will likely come with another soaking drenching rain with the possibility of more mudslides. so, back at home our weather compared to that pretty nice. tonight partly cloudy, a december chill, 31 degrees in philadelphia, 26 in allentown and wilmington 30 degrees. day planner tomorrow we'll see mix of clouds and sunshine. it will be chilly, 31 at 7:00. by 10 o'clock 36. 1 o'clock 41 and by 4 o'clock, 40 degrees. but brighter than today. so, the five day at 5:00 shows tomorrow mix of sun and clouds, the high 42 degrees. on sunday partly sunny, little bit warmer, 45. excuse me. monday mostly sunny, 48 degrees and tuesday some showers possible, a high of 50 degrees. as we begin hanukkah on behind that system brings a few showers on wednesday, seasonably cool with a high of 46 degrees. so, yes, a few showers on the way on tuesday but no rain, dear this weekend. >> all right, thank you so much. >> all right. >> thanks, love. >> much more to come in our next half hour of "action news" at 5:00 a coast to coast drug distribution ring that had its roots in south jersey now out of business. >> awheel known hollywood director that calls our area home is swindled by a member of his own staff. we'll explain what happened. >> those stories and more when "action news" comes right back >> ♪ >> "action news" continues with meteorologist adam joseph, jamie apody, rick with meteorologist adam >> hello again. here's what's happening on "action news" tonight. a battered and bruised west coast continues to deal with the after effects of a powerful storm that touched off flooding, mudslides and more. we're live with the latest. a former south jersey mayor found guilty of corruption gets out of federal prison and several new officers are joining the ranks of the philadelphia police department. we will share their stories. >> now the details. dramatic water rescues and mandatory evacuations under way from washington state to the mexican border. the region -- i'm sorry, monica, the region slammed by record rains mudslides hurricane force winds and several feet of snow in the mountains. >> live in san jose california with more on all of this tonight. ted. >> reporter: rick and monica this storm is moving out slowly bringing much needed respite for this weekend for the folks here in california but it is leaving in its path destruction from washington state all the way to los angeles. a wall of mud crashing down early this morning burying dozens of homes, some up to their rooftops. at one point rescue workers frantically digging through debris concerned there may have been people trapped. the mudslides in a retirement community just north of los angeles. it started moments after bill walked out onto his front porch. >> the mud was flowing around both sides of the house going into the street and i knew i was -- i was in trouble at that point. the good lord put me on that front porch. >> reporter: rescue workers helping people out of their homes. this man needed his medicine. >> probably like three brown bottles in there. that's it. >> reporter: in los angeles, dramatic rescues. a person caught in the l.a. river pulled to safety. in northern california, the relentless storm continues to drench the region in wine country rivers are nearing flood stage as people use kayaks and air mattresss to get around. high winds being blamed for two deaths in oregon from falling trees. the storm leaving significant damage across the region. dozens of trees blown onto homes and cars, the roof of a safe way grocery store collapsing under the weight of the torrential downpour. and there were actually customers inside this safe way when the roof collapsed. only one minor injury reported. as for this storm, it is moving out but there is more rain predicted starting next week. we're live in san jose, california, ted rowlands channel6 "action news." >> much more on the dangerous situation on the west coast. watch that tonight at 6:30 following "action news" at 6:00. >> a south jersey drug trafficking ring that stretched all the way to the west coast is out of business. today the atlantic county prosecutors office revealed details of a five-month investigation in mays landing. yesterday state and federal agents arrested 16 people in atlantic city, somers point cumberland county as well as lancaster county and the los angeles area. authorities also seized heroin, marijuana, crack cocaine, guns, ammunition cars and bank accounts. >> the heroin sold by this organization was being purchased directly from a mexican cartel and routed through california to new jersey. >> investigators say the street value of all the drugs seized during the operation is $2.25 million. from our delaware news room five heel people under arrest for building a meth lab in a home on kings lane in long neck. detectives took them into custody. in addition to the arrests authorities found equipment and key ingredients to making meth in the home. each person is being held on $27,000 bail. the smyrna police department says quick action by the public led to the arrest of this man, 44-year-old john histra. they believe he made unwanted sexual advances to a 25-year-old woman he offered do drive home. the victim told police he attempted to solicit sex. when she refused, he refused to let her out of the car for 45 minutes. the woman was not hurt. >> a once trusted aide to director m. night shyamalan is facing prison time for racking up thousands of dollars of clamps on a company credit card. authorities say he hired 34 year old selma codey to manage his rural chester county home. codey pled guilty to earlier this week to making 195 personal purchases on the card that he gave her for household expenses. she faces up to seven years in prison when she is sentenced in february. former hamilton township mayor is out of prison in a halfway house in philadelphia. he served more than 18 months of a 38 month sentence for accepting bribes. in exchange he promised that the broker's contract with the township school district would stay intact. he will finish his sentence in june. >> philadelphia mayor michael nutter praising police commissioner charles ramsey and the rank and file for their handling of the recent protests in the wake of the michael brown and eric garner grand jury decisions. the mayor recorded a special message that was played at every district during roll call yesterday. he says he is proud of the work officers have done to keep demonstrators and the public safe. >> i ask that you continue to show the same professionalism that you've already shown in dealing with our local demonstrations as you protect and uphold the rights of activists to protest, even when their target appears to be law enforcement officers like you. >> the mayor added that the police department is setting a great example of how law enforcement and the community can work together. >> the backlash against police officers in the wake of the michael brown and eric garner decisions was on the minds of the philadelphia police academy's newest graduating class today and as "action news" reporter vernon odom tells us these officers are ready to hit the streets. >> ♪ >> reporter:. >> police cadet class number 369 a small group of 39 graduated today after eight months at the academy. this class is 20 percent black, latino and women. a diverse group ready to go during these days of anger about police behavior in ferguson and staten island and many other elsewheres. their leaders mentioned today the demonstrators most of them are not anti-cops. >> people aren't opposed to policing, just bad policing and as long as they conduct themselves properly, respect people, provide the best service they possibly can, they'll be just fine. >> there really is no reason for excessive force. there really isn't. i would have to agree with him. >> it shouldn't be to lated. >> reporter: this ceremony is the culmination of many dreams. rookie emmanuel folly doubles as a professional prize fighter four and zero with three knockouts. >> i come from an area where you see a lot of violence and drug activities so i want to be a positive for my city. >> reporter: for some it runs in the family. ricky william is following in his father's footsteps. >> very excited, very happy. i just can't wait to start my term. >> reporter: for new officer alanna this is the start of a career she is long want. >> just looking forward to serving the community. that's just been my aspiration since going up. i actually grew up in this area. >> reporter: class number 369 will get their assignments and hit the streets bright and early monday morning. they'll be disbursed over two of the town's busiest districts the 22nd and the 25th. at police headquarters, i'm vernon odom channel6 "action news." >> time to get another check on the traffic situation. matt pelman has the latest in the "action news" traffic center, hey, matt. >> hey guys. we're ending the week the way we spent much of it sitting in traffic. >> lovely. >> vine street expressway all is not fine on the vine this evening rick and monica. we had a vehicle fire eastbound approaching eighth street. they're still out there cleaning up in the right lane causing huge delays across town on the eastbound vine. still back onto the eastbound side of the schuylkill expressway. this is the scene by girard. stick with the river drives instead, the eastbound side of 76 sitting at 54 minutes when it should be 14. between the blue route and the vine. meanwhile we're getting ready for the viewing for firefighter joyce craig tonight in west oak lane so broad street is closed. you could stay over on 611 old york road instead. i think that's going to be congested. ogontz avenue or took can canny creek parkway to be alternates. 95 delco locked up from namaans road though 32. accident taking out the left lane. 42 by 295 lot of construction scheduled this weekend. i would check 6abc.com to check the delays before you head out in this area. but have a good weekend, rick and monica. >> thanks a lot, matt. >> thank you. still ahead on "action news" tonight, you won't believe it and if you don't see it with your own eyes next we'll show you the heart stopping stunt one professional skier decided to record. it is wild. >> a local boxer who has found success in the ring is helping others in need this holiday season. we will show you and meteorologist melissa magee is in for adam tonight. >> hi rick. temperatures right now in philadelphia are in the lower 40's but you see the warmer air off to our south and west. we'll try to tap into a piece of there in the seven-day forecast. details coming right up. >> plus, former phillies short stop larry bowa weighing in on rollins. >> first here's another holiday greeting from a local troop member serving overseas. >> ♪ >> has been holidays. chief master sergeant roger thornton with my wife jacqueline and my son derian we're stationed in korea sending a happy holidays to all my friends and family in philadelphia including my parents robert and christine thornton, all my siblings, the rivers and the performance and my brothers robert and ronald, their families and the rest of philadelphia christchurch. wishing you a happy holidays from here in korea. wish we could be there. we love you all. >> happy holidays. >> happy holidays. >> ♪ no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood 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happened in the rice family was unfortunate but it did lift up awareness that this is a real problem that we've got to root out and men have to change their attitudes and their behavior and it has to start young. >> last month ray rice was cleared to return to the nfl. >> speaking of sports former all-star philly short stop larry bowa talking about the reported trade of current rollins. >> more on that. hey jeff. >> hey guys. of course jimmy rollins headed to the los angeles dodgers. as tough as it is for phillies fans to see larry bowa tells "action news" today it's time to cut the cord and move on. bowa believes the phillies need more energy and more youth. we caught up with the phillies bench coach larry bowa today who was j. roll's first full time manager in 2001. bowa like many is sad to see j. roll go. he considers rollins the greatest short stop in team history and a possible hall of famer but bowa believes it's time to rebuild and move on from a guy who became a star under his watch. >> i got to see him mature and i remember the first game i went out there when i got appointed manager i went out to the fall league on watched him and i said wow this guy is going to be something special and obviously he did turn outer to be very special but just seeing him come from that first year to where he is now and all the records he's broken and m.v.p. world series, i mean everything that you can do on a baseball field jimmy rollins has done and i personally believe he still has a lot left. >> it will be strange to see j. roll in dodger blue. while the phillies are going this way, the eagles are hopefully going this way. that's right, mark sanchez believes the sky is the limit for the eagles but that means nothing if they don't take care of business against dallas. first place on the line sunday night at the linc the eagles do not expect to face the same cowboys team they carved up on thanksgiving. >> can't expect the same exact dallas team energy-wise and enthusiasm-wise. i think these guys know what's at stake and that last performance wasn't really indicative of the kind of at a length they have and the kind of coaching and players they have so we're expecting a great matchup. >> fresh on your mind because you just prepared for them so i think that's really good but i think more than anything, you know, with where we're at in the season and what's after stake it's a lot of excitement with that, too. >> can't wait for this game. two and nine sixers back in action tonight against the brooklyn nets and they get back tony wroten as well. wroten missed two weeks with that knee injury. andre is not with the sixers tonight. flyers looking for back to back wins for the first time in more than a month tomorrow against carolina. flyers hoping to get red hot at home after what appeared to be a terrible road trip. >> we had a huge win last night and we had a regular trip out west and there's a lot we can build on. we are very confident. >> flyers forward vinnie lecavalier day to day with a lower body injury. he could be out again tomorrow against carolina. back taigles in the studio. >> thank you jeff. a daredevil skier is lighting up the internet with a death defying drop that was caught on camera. check this out. codey towson wore a helmet cam for his trip down a vertical slope. at the narrowest point the chute spans only 6 feet. >> actually only until i dropped in and started going and realizing how fast i was going how narrow it was and how steep it was. truly it all came together like ooh, man, this is terrifying. >> wow. i can't even fathom it. the drop was taller than the empire state building, five football fields stacked on top of each other. codey made it outer unscathed in 16 seconds. how about that. >> no big deal. how about that. >> no big deal. 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Transcripts For CSPAN2 Book Discussion On American Heroines 20131229

this is about an hour. >> welcome, friends. it's delightful to be here and we are here tonight in part to celebrate a really wonderful book. senator kay bailey hutchison's american hero in the spirit of when and who shaped our history. the country actually. thinking about this today because if anyone else had written this book, she would have been a chapter here. that's for sure. senator hutchinson grew up in texas and graduated the university of texas and law school at a time when law firms simply didn't hire the women graduates. as larry temple puts it back then it wasn't just a glass ceiling. there was a glass door. so she became a television reporter before going into politics and after being elected twice to the house of representatives, she was elected state treasurer in 1990 and three years later elective as the first woman to represent texas in the senate. she was elected by the chairman of the republican conference which means she is the only woman among the the top five leaders of the senate republicans. senator hutchinson leadership especially was notable in the relation to foreign affairs she serves as the share of the military construction subcommittee and subcommittee of the senate appropriations subcommittee and is the ranking republican of commerce subcommittee on aviation and is the chair of the transportation merchant marine subcommittee that enables her to set policies regarding the courts and security and we know how really important that is now. these are high-profile positions especially now. but senator hutchinson also worked for the groups and societies who are not in the power structure. for example as a member of the veterans affairs committee she fought for the recognition of the gulf war syndrome so they can receive treatment and she's the author of the fault legislation aimed at expanding retirement opportunities for stay at home spouses. i admire her leadership defending the endowment for the arts against strong opposition explaining that as she put it, are to help define the culture. there is important depicting the life and time of the nation as the written word of history. they are more in than we do in this country. to eliminate the support and performing arts would not only stunt their growth but curtail access to the art as well. looking at the career it seemed to me that access was one of the keys to her career and i was looking on the web site and i want to see this to you grandparents and parents. she has a wonderful kids page on our website and if you click there is a kid's page link to even the judiciary to the justice department to smithsonian. so put your grandkids or your kid on your lap and look to senator hutchison's website and that link and it is a brilliant kind of thing to do and it's all about access i think to all. those that no senator hutchinson say that she is one of the few politicians in the highly partisan politics willing to participate with stability in relation to all groups left, right and center and as the president and i both know, there's no better friend of the university of texas and the library than the senator kay bailey hutchison. [applause] thanks you very much. i appreciate the wonderful introduction. i am so touched by the turnout and so many of my friends as i saw earlier when i was signing books and i want to say this is johnson, thank you for being here. what a wonderful effort for you to make. ladybird johnson is a true heroine. thank you so much. [applause] president larry faulkner i have to say that someone might try to say that i'm the most popular person in texas. [applause] i can't get the smile off my face. i can't and i know he can't either and he was going to see you and how much you've meant to our state. i'm happy to talk about my book and i want to leave some time for questions as well. i want to first say that i've always believed that america is the best place in the world to be a woman. that's been reinforced to a great extent and i have revisited afghanistan, saudi arabia, iraq, and places where not only have the wegmann not had the ability to be educated, but they have been repressed and even of of joost. i got involved with a group that has really brought to the forefront the plight of women in other cultures in the world, and i am just so pleased that we have been able to grow up and m harakat. but i also want to say going forward that i think america is the greatest country on earth because women have been a part of our country and the building of our country throughout our history. and i start in the introduction with the observation that i think is very important because i think that women have broken barriers throughout our history but we were different even from the beginning and i start the book with the part of democracy in america by alexis de tocqueville that struck me and i loved it the moment i saw it. if i were asked, this is now we 1835. we all know when he toured america. he wanted to see what that new emerging democracy was producing. she said if i were asked what the cingular prosperity and growing strength of people mainly to be attributed, i should reply to the superiority of their women so he saw a spirit we back then in the beginning and american women that he hadn't seen in the european women. he saw that american women were partners when the men were off writing the constitution and a setting of our framework of the government. and it is true even in the next generation went of orders were pushing westward and the women were driving the carts and riding horses and helping to settle and they were partners from devotee beginning and i think that that has made a difference. so i wanted to write about the women that broke the barriers, the pioneers, the first ones in the different fields because i wanted to relate to many different people who might want to be inspired to go on to greatness. so i took the field of space, education, art, aviation, public service, journalism, and sports. those are the basic fields and i profiled the pioneer women who broke the first barriers. but then it struck me that contemporary women are still breaking barriers in those same fields. but i interviewed women that were breaking barriers in the same field as the pioneers and they were taking it of course to the new level. we wouldn't have gotten our start until the pioneers started. but then we have i think come so far that now we are breaking the final barriers. i think we are not going to have the first woman anything except president from now on because we are in all of the other arena as. i want to take a few of the other chapters and read a few excerpts that i think might be of the most interest. i did a chapter on it early texas woman because as you know texas had the most interesting history of any of the state's. it is the only state that came in to the nation as a and we fought for the freedom and the public for ten years before coming into the united states. now i have to say that we were not totally welcomed with open arms by the united states congress and the treaty with texas couldn't be ratified as a treaty because they couldn't get the vote in the senate. so the president had to introduce the legislation to adopt the treaty and in fact it passed the house by one vote and the senate by one vote so even back then there were people who questioned whether texas should become a state and the people in washington today i assure you who are asking the same questions but i wrote about mary who was the first cousin and her contribution was writing about texas and distributing her books throughout the east coast because it was stephen austin's view that we needed migration from america into texas in order for texas to become independent. and mary wrote very well and had wonderful observations and her time here she actually was living in kentucky and she came and went back and forth and i wanted to read you one of the excerpt from her book. it is not uncommon for the ladies to hunt with their husband to ride long distances on horseback to attend the ball with their silk dresses and their saddlebags. the vigorous constitutions, free spirits and thus interest and it is to be hoped will sufficiently value the blessing not to squander it away in their search for the luxury and refinement of the light life. of the women have the capacity for greatness that they require to bring it out. they require for perhaps stronger than men. the have strong barriers to break through of the habit but they are quick to discern the drinking to act. many in texas have proven herself the better half and many have prompted her to the noble bearing. now that was a part of the book that mary brooch and became a part of more about texas that was on the east coast. i wanted to read one of the parts that refers to stevan austin because he went through and the tiffany when he was in jail in mexico. stephen austin started changing his view. at first he thought that we could live and understand santa ana and thought he was a great leader and that he was his friend but after spending a year and a half in jail in mexico he started changing. [laughter] within a few sentences in the letter to marry the ec a new idea emerged that texas should become a part of the united states instead of an independent part of mexico with her through the political means or purchase. mexico's abrupt retreat from the constitutional space governance and 1834 had precipitated his own yearlong imprisonment as well as independent movements in california and other parts of the country including the state in central mexico. when santa ana, who stephen counted as a personal friend and a friend of texas brutally suppressed the uprising, stephen and the others were convinced that the accommodation with mexico was no longer possible. the fact is she continued. we must and ought to become a part of the united states. money should be no consideration so he blaise devolving into that view them and encouraged married to go home and write about texas and put her book particularly in kentucky and tennessee what he thought was the greatest opportunity to bring people into texas, where they could get a land grant from him. so he writes about that and then to her she of course does oblige him to do that. and coleman wrote about the runaway and most of you in the vroom no their romilly was the exodus of women and children from texas during the march into san antonio and about the battle, at the time of the battle of the alamo, she wrote about this and reported in her journal the group traveled to during the day that stayed quiet and stay awake at night. she said as he devotee indians or the mexicans were on the lookout for the horses. she said we've never slept. only at noon when the negro's got dinner and the horses were turned out. she would napa until the company started up again taking her food with her and eating on horseback. her son wrote with her but she said in her journal sometimes i found myself fast asleep on my horse and only when i was over the horse's head i awoke to the sense of danger with my little boy in my lap. that was straight from her journal. i want to end this with a quote from thomas the first senator to hold my seat in the united states senate, and he wrote eloquently. he was actually the secretary of war and he wrote beautifully in so many karina's. but i wanted to read one passage that is particularly relevant here. as thomas helped ensure, mnf texas deserved much credit but much more was due to the women. armed men could not but be brave but the women with their little children around them without the means of defense or power to resist they stayed with unflinching courage. i have added a note because my great-grandmother was also in their run away and i think she was one of those women in that helped settle our state. she took the four living children to louisiana. her children were ages seven and below and all four of her children died. she came back and had nine more children. so i think that there is a lot deutsch to the women that preceded us and i think that they contributed so much i think our texas history was so vivid. the second battle of the alamo was the battle of preservation of the alamo that was the battle between clara and the different views we are now in the mid-20s century but the different views about what should be in that type of preservation and was quite interesting the republic of texas had been so much to preserve the alamo and i hadn't known of the internal strife in the organization and we started doing the research on the dhaka we started looking at the history and knowing that that was controversy all. make sure i'm not walking off a cliff here. look at this chapter and tell me what needs to be changed and i was very pleased that he did write me back and he made a couple of suggestions. but in the name he left that chapter in tact so i was very pleased about that. i wrote one of my chapters. avida wouldn't allow anything to be written about her. when the research came back this was about ten pages long. it was pitiful and made an appointment and i said help me here. i want to write a lot your mother. she is one of the most fascinating women that i've ever met and had such an incredible record and yet we cannot find out very much about her. so why did include several of the things that bill included and told me about her but she was a fascinating woman and played such a part in the mid century for texas. we all know of course that she was married to the governor william, was a strong democratic activist and was tapped by president roosevelt to head the west. during world war ii of course the idea came that we should try to get women to do some of the jobs that the men in the military were doing to free up the men to fight. so she was tapped to start and run the west which she did. the women's army corps was formed by her. she was she said a one person recruitment effort. she would go out in the country to recruit. she had one uniform which she pressed every night and for the next day and was such a huge success that they ended up with many more women applying the fans they could have. and many more jobs than they could fill but they serve a terrific purpose and it was so successful that it did become a part of the army and then eventually of course the women were integrated into the military. she met eisenhower. she went on a trip to london with eleanor roosevelt, met general eisenhower and was taken with his leadership. so when he decided to run for president, she decided to support him and became the president or the chairman of texas for eisenhower. and does all of you know it was the pivotal vote that one for him and she was very much a part of that and president eisenhower then asked her to come back to washington and she became the first secretary of the education and welfare. she did a wonderful job everywhere she went. at the end of the chapter, he interviewed carly who is the head of the largest corporation in america headed by a woman, hewlett-packard. she was born in texas and her father was a professor at temple law school. she's one of the most fascinating women i've ever met and is always at the top of the list when anyone writes about women in business in our country. she has fond memories of taxes and feels like her parents were the reason because they encouraged her. however she did say that her father really wanted her to go to law school. she did go for one year and said dad, i'm a disaster. i cannot make it and then she became a receptionist in a firm where she was encouraged by the head of the firm to do more and she said i don't want to be a lawyer but they can see something in her that was terrific. and so she went and got her master's in this past the -- business. i also interviewed mickey fed is the first woman to buy a seat on the new york stock exchange and i did that because of course steve levin was also a major business force in the state. she was the chairman of the houston post. i interviewed madeleine albright and also condoleezza rice who is the next woman secretary of state and i wanted to read one excerpt because i felt particularly for this crowd do it appreciate that. was the best preparation for the rough-and-tumble of your life today being the provost of stanford. in an academic administration where you have 1400 extremely smart people who are basically independent contractors because faculty don't believe that they have any bosses. i learned when i was necessary to persuade people, when it was necessary to inform or necessary through demand. of learning to work in that environment was the most important thing and learning how to be tough enough to be with very strong personalities helped this is for you. [laughter] the next chapter that i want to talk about is marjorie in the journalism feature i talk about the world war ii journalists. margaret was a great photographer and she won the pulitzer prize for journalism. she was covering world war ii what to win the pulitzer prize and was quite an interesting person. the most interesting part of her story i thought was when she went into the prison camp and wrote about this because she and a man that was a german-born jew on the reporter for stars and stripes that is a newspaper still today of the united states army and they were the first americans to enter the confines of concentration camp in that area. they wanted to be the first to reach the camp and they were. while american soldiers from the others occupied coming and i'm reading now with regard that they found at the entrance to the concurrence to the campus itself they headed for their first glimpse of the prisoners. nothing could have prepared them for what they witnessed their. the inmates gained control the night before when most of the remaining guards had fled to be unsure of whether the german soldiers remained outside of the barracks they stayed inside until marguerite and peter opened the gate at the closure. the visitors were americans and she wrote after tattered man weeping, yelling and shouted will lead america swept towards the gate. those that walk or crawl in the confusion that were so hysterically happy. they were there during a five minutes he was patted on the back and embraced enthusiastically by the prisoners. afterwards, the american prisoner and air force maj conducted a tour where sick inmates lay dying and the torture chambers that lead 1200 corpses, the crematorium, the spot in the camp where people had to be executed before being shot. almost 2,000 bodies it hadn't gotten around to burning before they fled. the work realigned in which prisoners had been transported. hundreds of dead were still in the cars to to the fact that the prisoners in the camp had rejected the workers to remove them. it was mainly the men from these cars the of the leaders had shot just before making their escape. her story appeared in the herald tribune on may 1st. it was the first revelation from inside that americans read. so that was a part of the reason that she won the pulitzer prize for that and other writings. she was one of the two women journalists and buried in the arlington national cemetery. she married a general so that is what gave her the right to be there. we interviewed on the contemporary chapter and i thought barbara walters was the scariest interview, sought help am i going to make this interesting for her? she is going to think this is so boring. she was totally wonderful. she put me at ease immediately. what is the strategy because we hear people complain. someone else is making a higher salary than i am. what is best for the strategy. she said when the women in particular have said i don't have equality on the show i just said work so hard that you become valuable. it is the only way. to negotiate the lining by saying that she has a better these are hard nosed people, she said. that may take time. that was some of the most valuable down to earth reality negotiation that i had in the whole book and i thought that was particularly interesting. one of the other sets of interviews that i thought was particularly interesting was after my education chapter where they fought for education for girls, public education for girls because she saw that was going to be very important. i interviewed three women in the contemporary section after that. lynne cheney has written history books or children in history and i asked her what is the best preparation for the rough-and-tumble and i've often thought that for today's women its athletics. women in my generation didn't have athletics so for me it was baton twirling. i said could you repeat that? you know it sounds silly to talk about that today they taught you to keep going when you have a mistake or pulled a muscle it inspired me to be competitive. they're rewarded me for practicing and i practiced four or five hours a day. do you compete? yes. to retrieve my dignity i think i should point out that just as ruth bader ginsberg's. [laughter] ruth simmons also one of the interviews that the education section to head an ivy league institution and she is the president of brown university. this is outside of houston and this is one of 12 children. and i asked her what was the biggest obstacle in her life. a complicated social structures make it difficult to move any straight line toward success. two steps forward and one step back. it was like that for many reasons. i became a mother early in my career and i had to learn how to deal with marriage and later parenting and continue to grow professionally not sacrificing my career. as a wi-fi made the choice to follow my husband's career so i had a very wealth to success. i wish someone told me when i was young and not to worry, that i wasn't coming to have a straight line to success. i didn't know until later when i talked to other women in particular what they had and i learned that they were facing the same thing i was and i thought that was a wonderful thing for her to say because she could have said so many things. so many of us have experienced that we do follow our husband and then we have our time. i want to do one more interview because this one she was the first american-born woman to win the nobel prize and she won it for chemistry. she said perhaps the earliest memory that i have for being a star burnt determined child my mother has told me that there was fortunate that i chose to do acceptable things whereby otherwise no one could have deflected me from my past and she has a wonderful record. she also says reading the biography is what was her inspiration and as a matter of fact, the biography was written by her daughter and her daughter was also a nobel laureate. i thought that the interview was also particularly terrific. the of the same experiences that we have but she believes that it was education that in power her because of course coming from her background she said people didn't think that was very able to succeed and what was emboldened from education and knowledge i felt i could do anything. so, those are some of the experts and i think that i will just stop there and teach your question because. there is a lot in here that will inspire and particularly because all of the women in the smoke and so many of the women i know that i couldn't put in the book succeeded by having that positive attitude, that spirit that says i am going to pick myself up and dust myself off and learn from my experiences and be better for it and that is why every one of them a field but contributed so much. thank you very much. [applause] i would be happy to answer any more questions to be there are microphones there if anyone would like to ask one. >> i will get the crowd off to a start. you started off by saying that the united states you believe is the greatest nation in the world because of my men. i wanted to know what your thoughts are on the contract with europe and in particular scandinavia and how they have more in their government than we currently do. >> i think there are numbers in some of these countries and perhaps even quote us. but i think that because we have not been able to contribute not just of the government, but we are now able to get into the profession, and to the highest levels of business you don't find the when ceos and because of for entrepreneur should and creativity and those that have come before. we are now at every level except the president of the united states but at every level a business or the profession government i don't think it is a factor that we are women anymore mostly. we are not 100% but we are 98% of their. when i graduated from law school there were 13 women into law school in the class. today it is probably 50 to 60% me the more. the differences are just amazing. i think we are seeing it at all levels and all types of life and also i think in the military we have made incredible strides in the military. i do think that our country is more open and more equal, women are more equal than anyplace else. >> [inaudible] wan en we've and eddie bernice johnson and chris miller was elected we were the five out of the 150. there were four democrats. i felt that women were accepted in the legislature just about anyplace i've been and we were able to come together to do things that have done a business in the country in the state and in the country. and let me say that in many ways it was harder to get elected and to serve because i found that convincing people that i could do the job and was the hardest part of being a woman at the time because you had to prove yourself i don't think that is the case today and i don't even think people think of me as a woman senator. they think of me as a senator from texas. but i do think that the women coming into the system have changed some very important a laws and have made an important contribution. for example, when just five of us got together, we passed law to the shield victims' that set the standard for america. we were the first to pass the law that treated the victims that would not have been done except for the women coming together and there wasn't that they were just against the law they just had the experience of knowing this was a different type of crime. so i think that we have made a difference. we also passed the equal credit law for texas that put us in the forefront for the women in our state. fast-forward to the united states senate and i took my experience of starting as a single woman getting married and finding out i could contribute to under $50 if i were a married woman not working than i could have done and 2007 as a working woman and i set up about to change that and the senator from maryland and i teamed up in much the same way that we team upper and legislature to change that. so now the home makers and women that work outside of the ho have the same right to save up for security and tax-free accumulating and these are some of the things that we have been able to do because we bring our experience to the table and i think that having many different experiences in the legislative body as possible makes it much more representative and much more serving of the general public. we did have some obstacles but i think it was getting he elected revenue than serving and i think that we have added both in the state with our partnership and nationally. yes? >> if you could put another chapter in your book when you consider the world war ii? >> calmar roosevelt, barbara gush and laura bush, many of the great ladies that were not included in the book and mainly because if i had done that i could have had to pick the first first lady and you could arguably say that roosevelt was because she did change the role of first lady bug of the madison did, too. abigail adams was an incredible person's life didn't put the category and. i think that our first leakey's have a special place in america and i think the contribution that they make is phenomenal. i think that the beautification of america is a lasting legacy. i see it everywhere. i think that eleanor roosevelt's contribution to the country and towards the quality of women in every way is legendary. so i didn't put that category in but the whole book could be written by great leaders like those. >> senator from texas are you consider running for the governor of texas? [applause] >> you never change. [laughter] >> i'm not thinking now about it or talking about it tonight for sure. i do think that we have come off of an election and it's time to sit back for awhile. i am not opening or closing doors but in q4 the question [laughter] >> i think that he would make a good governor. >> is this a follow-up? laughter, >> is great to see you. >> in the last issue of texas monthly it was cutting deep and maintains 150,000 texas children have been thrown off the health insurance because the state legislature at the urging of governor rick perry downsized the state's children's health insurance program often referred to as chip. the same notes that you and the state controller have been outspoken on your criticism on this matter and if i might add to other points before i ask my question, it would take only $98 million in state funds matched by more than twice that amount in federal funds to restore the full checked benefits for the year 2005 and maintained that there is ample money available to do so. and second, this action by the legislature and the governor has dumped the tax burden for health care on to the local communities at a much greater expense as children that lose their health insurance still get sick and often end up and hospital emergency rooms where medical care is the most expensive and tax payers pick up the bill without the benefit of the federal matching dollars to offset the cost. okay. my question. if he were elected governor, what steps would you take -- [laughter] to reinstate the critically needed health care program? [laughter] >> let me say without -- let me state what my position and is and not respond exactly to your question. it this fundamental that if we do not cover children or any people that don't have insurance coverage, it is more expensive. and all ibm seeing our major regional emergency rooms especially in the bigger counties being overrun by people who don't need emergency care but they have nowhere else to go. and your statement about the dollar's matched his correct but it's even more so it's about 40 cents of the state level and 70 cents that the federal level in the funding. so why do think that you can't keep pushing the taxes down to the property tax level in the state. that is a very burdensome tax ian we are not using our dollars very wisely when we don't use a two-for-one federal match to keep our counties from going bankrupt or raising the taxes at a prohibitive falafel so let me say that i would prefer to talk more about the book than the current issues but it's critical that we get back on track but for the funding. [applause] >> - something else. >> we should try to talk about the book >> your book sounds interesting and you are a gracious lady but i did have a question that is not about the book but i will buy the book. i am concerned about security in the supporters immigration. i don't think that those steps have been taken and one thing that concerns me because i like to travel is that the cargo on the passenger planes is not screened. that is what concerns me. could you address that? i'm very concerned about the cargo screening situation right now. i believe that we are doing a good job, not perfect, not where we need to be but a good job at screening but we haven't perfected. the transportation security secretary has done some in that regard, but we need to have better systems in place in order to allow the transportation security administration to withhold the licenses of the carriers that are not meeting the certain standards and we need background checks for people that work in the chain of the cargo from its inception putting it on an airplane. this is an area where i worked and i don't think that we are where we need to be yet. question about the book? >> senator, i've not read your book. i probably won't read your book that my life was with the foundation for over 50 years and i just wanted to tell you a story about how far women have come. when we came from port arthur to wichita falls, we were both -- she couldn't get a job as a reporter in port arthur and i was a halfway reporter but we joined the wichita falls post. she was the best that they ever produced. they offered her because we were a team, and she was better than i was, i took the job and covered the court house. i took a reduction from the port arthur news and if they offered her $60 because she was a woman and anyhow, i just wondered if we could make that point. >> we have come a long way. >> there is is this one question i will not ask you but what do you think of tom delay? [applause] he deprived me of floating on who might voted for 30 years. i'm just as mad at the democrats >> i'm going to do one more thing and then not take any more questions. tom did something i think all of you would appreciate, and i had worked for many years to try to get the sales taxes on the federal income taxes. i worked for ten years and he did a great job in getting a that along with congressman kevin brady into the bill and we worked together to keep in the conference report said the next two years or the next year we would be able to dig up the sales taxes in the federal income tax, which will mean a lot to texans and those that live and other states that don't have an income tax the do have a sales tax. i do think that we have to point out some of the other things that are being done. there was another tractor that i wanted to point out because this was the only chapter that i had the kind of battle with my editor and publisher and that is in the women's art section. i profiled mary anderson of course a great impressionist author born in pennsylvania and came from a very wealthy family in pennsylvania but she had an artistic tendency. her father was horrified she was going to be an artist and heaven forbid live in france and he didn't give her any support or encouragement. but she prevailed. she knew with her heart and of course was the most recognized artist of the time and was a wonderful impressionist and she prevailed. and her father and mother both moved to france with her in the end. marian anderson we all know broke the barrier and had a fabulous place and then i added -- and this is where my editor disagreed but i added the performers and particularly selena. my editor said who is selena and i said she made a major contribution even though she died so young and so tragically. she was murdered by one of her fans. but she made a huge contribution because she really brought the latino music into the pop culture and no one had been able to do that to the extent she did before her and i felt that was worthy of note in the artistic section and particularly i thought she was the first one who did the first piece in the popular sections -- sector came out after her murder and went to the very top of the chart. i thought she did a great job and in the interview following that chapter was beverley who also made a great stride in the community but i thought selena was a fascinating woman and she did leave her mark quite prominently. i will mention one other section. aviation pioneers, amelia earhart of course, but i also did with the other story jacqueline cochrane they were the women fly years that had flames all over the globe to allow once again the men to fight and be the fighter pilots and they did a great service for the country and when they were little recognized but they did all of their training at big spring texas and they made a huge contribution and they were gutsy incredible when women. .. publishing is different from the rest of the world. and so i learned a lot by writing it, and i hope all of you will enjoy it. th

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they encouraged me to arrange this event which i'm so glad i did. that was great, but come back to my main sort of prepared remarks in a moment but today of course is the 50th anniversary of the assassination of president kennedy and those of us of a certain age remembered this very well where we were and looking at the audience most of you are in that same category where we were and what we were doing and there are lessons that kennedy still could teach us today. i'm sure you follow all of the documentaries and tv shows and commentary and so on. but one thing that is in my caucus that he listened and learned among the examples of this and having covered the white house for 27 years i can tell you that many presidents do not listen and learn and are frozen in their own little bobble and they don't break out and managed to do this. when he took office he expected to be a president dealing with the superpower relationship of the u.s. versus the union. his only contact with african-americans was with the valet that andreu him too bad this a day and shined his shoes but as time went on, he noticed that this tremendous ferment was going on called the civil rights movement, and by 1963 the year that he was killed, he had been braced the civil rights movement and so that is one example he did listen and learn and paid attention to the news media and one point that registered with me is he was a hero in world war ii in the pacific and admired physical bravery and by paying attention to what was going on, and by the way, presidents for years now have not paid a lot of attention and that is for a whole nother talk but kennedy did pay attention and solve the protesters being arrested and police dogs and fire hoses and that really resonated with him and so you remember this was the year of the march on washington that the increased the movement and so he listened and learned and was on the right side of history. he also listened and learned on foreign policy. they had the decisions one was how to deal with the bay of pigs invasion and 51. second was how to deal with the missile crisis in 1962. the difference between night and day that went very badly. the support never materialized and was a terrible ambassador for the country and around the world but kennedy took responsibility for it. the historians that studied kennedy and in mine own research i found this to be true he concluded after the first crisis that he was in a bubble in the white house because he was listening to much to the so-called experts in the military and the intelligence community. and he realized that these people had their own little bubble that they were in and at that time they were basically hawks like you may remember some of them. but then he realized that they couldn't pay attention to them as much as they had so he brought in the inner circle at the cuban missile crisis he found his own judgment in he was skeptical and felt they led them astray before and the cuban missile crisis goes down in history as a success for the united states that lasted to this day as we look at the kennedy administration. so just as a moment in history and given that this is the anniversary i just wanted to start off with a little moment by talking in the book about someone who did listen and learn and was able to break out of the isolation of the white house. now, this has been around for a long time to meet president washington and 89 was understood in the natural isolation that the president would have even though he was the first president setting up a lot of precedent. but even the title indicates the problem that we have from the beginning they came up with different titles and one of his high eight maecenas george washington said the sound great but mr. president will be just fine and that is the title that he adopted and never kept to this day. they called the white house the great jail and president clinton said that it was the crown jewel in the federal penitentiary system and president obama said that one of the mistakes he made in his first term was failing to break out of the white house and moved around the country as much as he should have and now he is trying to change that so we had this problem and presidents recognized it was an adviser to johnson 40 or 45 years ago and he said the biggest problem coming from the presidency was being isolated from reality. and i think if anything it has gotten worse since then because of many of the factors that i'm about to talk about. some of them are positive from the president's day to day life and has a tremendous spurt of office. there's a giant white house staff that's there to do whatever the president wants and there's about 132 household staff members in addition to the political staff. there's camp david at the retreat at air force one and i wrote a book about air force one and i can tell you that of the president might have heard that is the thing they always say they missed the most of the flying white house. having traveled a lot lately the never have to wait in line at the airport or have the plane delayed and the sky for air force one so it is a wonderful way to travel and presidents just love it. but it's a very normal life and i remember when my first started coming to the white house and i walked through the northwest gate in 1986, shortly after that i realized how abnormal the president's life is. some is positive and some is - but on the more positive is all the other perks of the white towels and the family theater and the ability to use the military golf courses that other presidents have used and the tremendous difference that people give you. but on the other side of the life of the president is very difficult to deal with to keep in contact for a number of reasons. one is security. of course we talked about the kennedy assassination that every time there is a security issue whether it is attempted assassination, 9/11, the security goes up and never goes back to the way that was before. we were talking about this earlier how it gets more and more intense. if president obama were speaking there would be secret service guards all over, motorcade ready to go, secret service agents in the audience. it's more intense than i've ever seen and i've never interviewed president obama and there were literally a secret service agent behind the curtain just standing there. but nevertheless, this is what the deutsch. no matter who you are, so you just wonder how a president could have any kind to mr. action with this incredible security that is around everywhere to the president obama and others tried to break out and meet with families in their homes and so on and president jimmy carter actually stayed overnight in people's homes that must be quite difficult because i have had a security given to how they would come to my house in the washington hearing and people look in your closet and they look under your bed and everywhere. president clinton didn't end up coming but i got a taste of what it's like and president carter stayed in people's homes and tried to reach out and get a sense of everyday life but after awhile, there were big democratic donors that set i'm giving all this money to you. so he stopped staying with everyday people and started staying with the donors just another example of how difficult it is for a president to stay in touch. the decision to president meeks also cause this kind of problem. i have a number of photographs that i have had access to over the years and one is a dramatic picture of lyndon johnson who was one of the presidency list in the book as being stuck in the bubble particularly at the end of the presidency and he was almost literally a president of the white house because of the decisions made notably the vietnam war. we think about how difficult the politics are but remember they chanted how many kids did you kill today that has to be tough for the high minded politician to deal with and he had to deal with that day after day and for a while at the end he couldn't speak except in the military bases where there was deference shown to the commander in chief or a conservative campus is because everywhere else there would be sometimes violent demonstrations against the vietnam war. nixon felt the same way. he had the same problem as he escalated the war. the treated more and more in his inner circle and didn't really break out of it and feels the need to at the end of the scandal of how isolated nixon was in the paranoid atmosphere around him he was already talking to a couple of staffers at the white house and was a very lonely person in many ways. so, that's sort of another example and i would be glad to talk about the other examples of individual presence but sort of on the more high note, who are the president's seem to have broken out of the bubble and seem to have broken out into the regular life of the country and try to understand? one was a person that i consider to be the first most modern president of this franklin roosevelt. franklin roosevelt was paralyzed from polio which he contracted when he was about 39-years-old. he never recovered the use of his legs that he would take therapy and he struggled all of his life to recover his mobility but he never could. when you see those pictures of roosevelt going to the podium, when he was about to speak he's walking very slowly, he is waving and he looks like he's having a great time this was an act because if you look carefully, they had to bodyguards with one of his sons holding him by the elbow as he braced himself and then they maneuvered him over to look like he was walking, but he actually had a steel braces from his hips to his ankles and so by the time he meets the podium he kept at it so that's the point i'm raising is that franklin roosevelt learned empathy because of the polio that he had and eleanor his wife said he never would have in this tremendously and that the president if he hadn't had polio. so he made use of that in his public life. you might have seen the movie warm springs which is about roosevelt and his younger days when he bought the property and warren springs georgia which was a rehabilitation center recently for children with polio. he would go down there even as president as often as he could and you can go to the site and see the pool he used to go to show the children the therapy that he used that make them feel better and he never recovered the use of his legs that he tried to teach the children that even the president has to persevere and struggle sometimes. he played water polo games and so on. but the kids didn't think of him as president roosevelt the thought of him as dr. roosevelt. i always thought that this was a poignant story because roosevelt could have had therapy and rehabilitation anywhere that he wanted to as a wealthy man. but he kept going back to the springs in order to give an example to the children. i always thought that was a wonderful story. but eleanor felt it gave him an empathy with the country coming and that helped make him a better president. another quick point about roosevelt. she realized since he couldn't get out of the country since he wanted to he relied on his wife to do it for him. she became what they called his eyes and years so she traveled around the country and would go to places first ladies had not gone before. she went to migrant camps come in and cities, the coal mines there's a famous case she went down to the mine shaft in pennsylvania wearing a miners outfit and she would report back to franklin. so she was serving almost as a pollster and a reporter and she found a way to also connect with him as president because they were having trouble in their marriage and this was the way that she could be a partner with him in governing because he looked forward to her coming back and getting these fact finding 40-hour dinners she would go over her notes and she was a very voluminous note taker and he valued this. .. he tried to reach out. he had fax machine. he had a fax at the white house he gave out to friends around the country who could send him a note directly to tell him what they thought about his policies and speeches. he got back to his friends. i thought it was a positive thing. he liked to travel. there were many times where he did talk to people. he was known for being late. part of the reason he was late all the time because he was talking to individuals. and if you can get them what i had considered a private moment, he would like to keep talking. a lot of us would feel like we're waiting him for all the time. when you did an interview with him. i interviewed him a number of time. you benefited. if he was engaged he would want to know. talk about flattery. the president ask what you think about it? some is public relations. hef interested. he would come back and -- sometimes talk for an hour. he liked to chat. there was one time coming back from australia air force one has a compartment in the back where a group of reporters travels with the within. we won't take it within the press corp. everybody gets a turn in the press corp. i happen to be my turn. coming back from australia. we had a 22 hour flight. about half way through the cabin was dark. it was about 2:00 in the morning local time. i'm standing there with a soft drink. everybody is asleep. how am i going to pass the next hours? and hi, kid, how you doing? it's bill clinton. he has on a t-shirt, jeans, and flip-flops. everybody is asleep. he exhausted everybody. i'm standing there thinking, well, do i wake up the other press people? or do i talk to the president myself and brief my colleagues later? what do you think i did? [laughter] i just talked to the president. a half hour and nobody et. else woke up. he talked about the politics of the philippines and the leaders he met. and he talked about holding baby al-shabaab and al qaeda wall i passed over a giant clam, it was huge! i'm thinking i know something about the giant clam. i don't know why he talked about that. but that's as a reporter that's what you want to get from him. you're covering the white house. you want to get to know the president. i felt like i had a sense of the president behind the curtain. you got a feeling for an intellectual curiosity that clinton had. several brilliant mind. and of course everything came back to him. as i say that's self-indulgence we saw also in the monica lee win sky scandal. i credit clinton in the book and generally trying to reach out. he read letters, he was very much interested in keeping in contact with people that way. president obama does that today. which i'll go back to. it's not new. franklin roosevelt wrote a lot of letters as well. clinton is one example that tried to stay in touch. one other quick. he was really whetted to polling. he a number of pollsters during the time in office. he was whetted to polling. he came up with the idea of polling where he should go. most americans kept it a secret, of course. most felt that the president should go a national park. names sense. clinton went west to the grand canyon and hated it. he's not an outdoor guy. swatting flies, they had a tough time finding pictures to make it look like he was having a good time. after he was re-elected he never went back to the national park. he went to martha's vineyard. he loved it. the amenities, the beach, all the stars and entertainers. he admired were paying attention to him as the president. so it was an interesting insight in to clinton. but he did try to stay in touch. i think i credit him for that. ronald reagan. there's a lot of chris schism for being isolate and too much in the pocket of the wealthy and compings and so on. but there was another side to reagan to be fair. i cover the last two and a half years of reagan. reagan had a tremendous first of all a tremendous pollster. also from california and utah. but response with people. thousands and thousand of letters. as president obama talks about letter today. president reagan conducted this incredible letter writing that was kept private. there was one case i'll share with you that just summarized this just to show that he was trying to keep in touch in his own way. he went to a grammar school in washington, d.c., and asked the principal to have -- give him the name of a student. he could be a pen pal with. they came up with a guy named rudie heinz. a young african-american student. we didn't know anything about it in the press corp. reagan didn't want a lot out. he felt like it would be distorted. did carry-on a response with rudie heinz. and actually visited -- had him don't white house with the single mom and went to their house to have dinner. secretly. now i don't know how he did that. we thought we were keeping tabs on him in the press corp. we apparently weren't. all through the end of his.single female and after he left office and he showed up at the funeral. very greatly admired reagan in the end. and sometimes we knew we didn't get the full -- and reagan's case he tried to keep in contact. at least he recognized there was a problem that presidents had to deal with in breaking out of the bubble of the white house. now again in the book i talk about a lot of other presidents and so on. but i wanted to before we take some questions talk about president obama. and then have some summary remarks. president obama, i think, does try to keep in touch. he has brilliant pollsters. we saw in the campaign. his pollsters lead by joel of new york completely outfoxed the republicans and romney. the republican nominee. they sliced and diced in ways that pollsters had not done. they use a lot of corporate meths where think that would have researchers actually almost live with families for a long period of time to get an idea of what was going on in the lives of every day americans. that's very expensive to do. but president obama raised about a billion dollars. he had the money and wasn't challenged in primaries. they came up with a fabulous series, which i've seen at lough private memo on this. series of able cease of the american public particularly swing voters. and they understood them far, far better than the romney campaign did. and the republicans are not trying to play catchup. you see some of the memos and realize why he did some of the things had he did. the phrases he used and so on. the focus on coming baseball to the middle class, the economy and so on. and so anyway that was one thing he did. he does read the letters. i come back to that in a moment. i'll come back to it now. he gets about 40,000 e-mails and letters a day. that's what the white house tells us. the staff boils that down ten they give him every day and takes them with him and reads them. sometimes he reads them to his wife and talk about what can be done. i think they take it seriously. it's not new, wows tries to make it seem newer than it is. but he's tried to reach out. lots of times, the staff doesn't like this because the letters will then be sent back to the staff with annotations on it from the president and so a farmer in des moines, iowa gets five calls from white house senior staffers. the president read your letter. how can we help? and they lost a social security check or something. the staff doesn't like it too much. because the they have to go scurrying around following up. president obama really does value the letters. and i think that's important. he does try to break out of washington. he's doing a lot more traveling now than he had done beyond the campaign. he's going to be in san francisco, monday, by the way, you'll see that probably on your highways. [laughter] when he arrives. but he does try to break out. as i said earlier, it's difficult for the president to get that human interaction but president obama tries do it. and i credit him for that. and again we were talking about the polling. president obama does try to widen his circle of contacts so that he -- terrorist a problem now the whole health care issue, i think is an example of how somebody who tries to reach out like president obama does often does not succeed. because the whole rollout of the health care law of obamacare has been struck all kinds of embarrassing problems with the westbound and president obama saying you can keep the plan you like. which didn't turn out to be true for millions of people. basically i think what happened here he was surrounded by so many presidents are idolizers. this happens again and again other the years. that's part of the isolation that presidents have to endure. and so how does president obama deal with this? he tries. he starts out with a blackberry. he tries to -- now the secret service didn't want him to keep the blackberry. they felt the bad guys would track him as we learned from the surveillance stuff. they can track it. he still uses the blackberry so his friends can communicate with them directly. he keeps in touch with popular culture. it's another thing for presidents to do. you know, one of the people watching not only in the news sense but also on just on television or in the movies what is going on in the culture. he does try to keep in touch with that. and i think that's everybody's advantage he tries to do that. he also tries to have din we are his family at 6:30 every night. it makes it seem like a miner thing. it goes back to the notion of listening to your spouse and family. michelle obama will speak truth to power. she will say, barack, that was not a good speech. you're off on this and that. there's not many people that will do that for any president except the president's spouse. nancy rage did it for president reagan. he talks to his daughters. they see him as dad. i got a b on my test and should have gotten an a. that's basic. and valuable to ground the president. they don't care about his great speeches to help policy or news conferences. they're talking about their own world but his report i think get insight in to that because president often don't. they lose contact with the everyday life of the country. i'm paying attention to the people in i had district. i don't care what the rest of the country wants. they're in their bubbles. the business communities is in a bubble. the unions are in a bubble. we're sort of all sort of in the strange little now and people aren't listening to each other very much. i think it's a problem. above all for the president who is supposed to represent all of us, and it's a real challenge to stay in contact with all of us. need to pay at lough attention to. with that, i think question take some questions. thank you very much. 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[laughter] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [laughter] are we on? okay. all right. i want to remind our radio audience first we are in san francisco, california listening to kenneth discuss his new book "prisoners of the white house imts which is a fascinating book called the bubble that various presidents seem to exist in not by choice but by design. we're now going proceed to the audience questions. i have the unusual task of trying to juggle the microphone, cards, and notebook at the same time. i'll do my best on this. you talked about at the very end . >> i haven't seen it this bad. thing people are more and more retreating to their own worlgtd. you see it in the news. fox on one side. msnbc on the other. people can get their views reinforced very easily. and often people don't do anything beyond that. they just get their views reinforced. it bounces back to washington in a series of can cocoons people are in. i think that is really going on. i think that the whole notion of why this is happening. why it's so bad. because partly in the house of representatives it's called jerry mannedderring. democrats and republicans. once it's elected it's hard to dislodge them. we have a sense of an antiincumbent move developing now. i don't know how it's going turn out. i think it will turn out there's antiwashington lead to outsiders running against washington. whether democrats or republicans. that probably will be the same thing that will happen in republican presidential race, by the way. on the democratic side of hillary clinton wins, she'll almost clear the field. we have to be careful of that. we thought it would happen the last time. and barack obama defeated her for the nomination. you never know how it's going work out. in the republicans, when i travel around the country, and see at lough polling. it's the governors that seem to be more in touch probably of any political group in the country. the governors seem to be more in touch than certain politicians in washington. i think that's where a lot of people will tush to in the next campaign. particularly for the republicans. but also, i think, around the country that's what people are doing so much of of our politicals politicals is cocooned now. it's difficult for the people to realize that and break out of it. >> on that encouraging note. [laughter] you talked about the roam that eleanor roosevelt played for fdr -- [inaudible] for some sense? >> that's a good point. hillary clinton was not so much a gathering of information for bill clinton about where the country was. she was a policy maker. she played a more policy maker than any first lady before or since really. bill keep in contact with the country on his own quite well. hillary clinton understood that. i think he's far better at that today than hillary clinton is. and i think that's one problem she's going have if she runs. which i think she'll do. but now she saw herself not as a barometer of the public but a washington policy maker. and they tried to get the health care go through. you remember it didn't work. then after that, and she was in charge of that. then after that hillary clinton backed off because there was a failure of the health care bill. but i think there was different than the eleanor roosevelt role. hillary admired roosevelt greatly. because eleanor did take policy positions too. it's the the role she played as policy adviser. >> you talked about going -- [inaudible] she flew down second world war to visit the troops there. imagine doing that today. >> right. as the war went on. eleanor broadened her missions to include visiting troops around the world. there was a famous visit she made try to keep it secret for security reasons. and then the rumors were spreading there was a famous adviser going show up, i believe it was sydney australia. it was eleanor. she went to hospitals. she visited troops there. she went to the soldier camps and so on. and she went to a famous incident they still talked about over there. she turned up at the community event, and sang "for she's a jolly good fellow." she loved that. but she also on the fact finding missions took the information from her own agenda she wanted to promote. civil rights was important to her. she pushed civil rights. franklin did. and a lot of times he wouldn't listen to her he said as so many of the other presidents have said. if i push for civil rights i'm going lose the rest of my agenda because of segregationists in congress or because the conservatives who oppose it. so he didn't push a lot of civil rights. but eleanor felt she could get franklin beyond through on some thicks such as letting the african-american troops have some kind of recreational facilities comparable to what the right groups did. rerefused to desegregate the military. that's what truman did, by executive order. you remember the famous case of mary anderson, the african-american ended up -- american revolution would not allow her to speak at their facility in washington. so eleanor arranged with franklin's approval to have her speak at the lincoln memorial, which they became iconic moments in civil rights where she gave a wonderful concert. which eleanor arranged to be broadcast nationally. so eleanor did not only serve as -- for her husband but used her travel to inform her on what she could do as first lady to affect change. >> you have not yet discussed two presidents who had the same last name. bush. >> yes. >> could you compare the bubble qualities of george h. w. -- >> right. >> and the son. >> i knew we would get that in the question period. but i covered both of them. both of their administrations. president bush, the father, i think was elected and he was the right president for the times when he was elected. to end the cold war he was either -- unravel ling of the soviet union. the structure of the berlin wall and so on. very effective are i. he didn't take a lot of credit for it. he would say i learned from my mother not to pay too much attention to the great i am. that's what his mother used to say. control your ego. in other words. he took that to heart. now that hurt him. because a lot of people wanted the president to explain what he was doing. he has to do that to get the proper credit. he didn't do that. by mid way in his presidency, the country turned against him because of the economy and the recession. they no longer wanted a foreign policy president. that i wanted a domestic policy president. president bush didn't get that. i say that sadly because i liked president bush, the father, personally. any of you know who him knows he's a gentleman decent and generous to people around him. he could never convey the qualities to the country. just one other quick point about the staying in touch. there was a famous incident why bush went a supermarket scatter demonstration. you might remember this. and they couldn't get the whole press corp. they took one and put anymore there and refer him back to the rest. it misunderstood what was happening. it was a scanner technology exhibit. theyer to up and threw it on the screen and comowter read the bar code that was torn up. at the time i think we would have been surprised. it wasn't something that did that. that's what he was reacting to. he was aware of the technology. he didn't understand this bar code dearing up business. it became a symbol he was completely out of touch. it became sort of an iconic set back for him. people felt he doesn't even know what a supermarket is like anymore. he did lose touch. i think it was a big reason why he lost to bill clinton. clil ton was in touch. knew what people wanted. we come to president george w. bush. the decider, as he called himself. he had a notion that he knew better. he said i am a conviction politician. not conviction in the term of felony. [laughter] conviction in term of believing thing. he said i will make my decisions on what i believe. i don't care what anybody else thinks. i'm going do what i think is right. so now the architect briefed bush on him. oftentimes he didn't pay that much attention to him. he ended up running for reelection basically on the idea he could keep the country safe and john kerry could not. he won. then he fell in to this whole second term jinx or overreach that so many presidents fall in. president obama is now in. pushing for privatization, partial privatization of social security, way, way unpopular in the polls. he kept doing it. the iraq war was going badly. he didn't pay a lot of attention to public opinion on that. then the other quick point is hurricane katrina. he was on vacation in the ranch in texas when the hurricane hit. devastated the gulf coast and new orleans. he wasn't paying attention. again, to the news media, you know, i'm a member of the news media. i want you to pay attention. president bush did not. there were images of people on the roof and people in the stadium begging we need help. somebody help us. sad moments the people going through. and bush didn't even know. he was cutting brush and burning up cedar branches. and finally one of the staffers put together a newsreel almost amazing what was going on with images. and sat him down and said you've got see it. he looked and decided to go back home after this was going on for some days. that the point people were thinking well, here is the president? thinking back on the presidents. could you imagine lyndon johnson not going? could you imagine bill clinton not going? somehow show some solidarity with the people. but he didn't do it. so he flew over the site on air force one. you might remember the picture of him looking out the window. it became the symbol ofizelation of george bush. botching the management of the hurricane remember the fema. the agency guide. mr. brown, you're doing a great job. it didn't out to be true. a heck of a job. >> exactly. >> that picture was release bid the white house. it became a lasting image of george bush isolated at 35,000 feet. not paying attention to the suffering under the plane and in the country. and just a final point. his staff then and now say it's the moment where he lost the country nap people no longer thought he was a good manager and no longer thought he could be trusted to represent what was going on in the country. he really suffered from that. that's part of the story of the second term. >> you talked about the curiosity of clinton. how would you apply the phrase to george herbert walker and george w.? >> well, curiosity. i don't think either of them have a lot of intellectual curiosity in the sense of trying to find out things outside their orbit. the advantage president bush the father had. he had vast experience in a lot of things. he had been a businessman, an oilman, ongoing china. he was director of central intelligence. he had been the head of the republican national committee. a member of congress from texas. he a lot of varying experiences. and he used that to a good extent. he didn't -- learn a lot in addition when he was president. as i said president ken did that. president bush the father did. if anything the son was less willing to learn about things. there's always this discussion president bush the son. was he frankly too stupid to be president. you have heard all of this argument. i never felt that way. i think he was perfectly had perfect brain power to be president. he didn't have the intellectual curiosity. if he didn't need to learn about something, he wasn't going learn it. he did learn about the middle east and terrorism. he learned about the economy. but there are vast areas he wasn't interested in. he didn't feel like he needed to learn. that's where i would fault him. not having intellectual curiosity. i think that's the problem. >> last question on george w. bush. there's speculation that the president's office isolated him really without his knowing it. >> yeah. nor and more is coming out with the relationship of george w. bush and dick cheney, his vice president. in the beginning he relied heavily on cheney. he didn't have any experience in foreign affairs. you see the interview with him during the campaign. he didn't know the leaders. who is the leader of pakistan? oh it's that muslim guy, he would say. okay. that's not very heartening. but anyway, they so he -- cheney he selected because cheney had defense secretary. white house chief of staff and veteran in washington and didn't know a lot about foreign policy and defense. which bush didn't. in the beginning, he really deferred to cheney on a lot of things. as we have learned, as time went on, bush felt he learned enough and overruling cheney. cheney wanted further escalation in iraq further escalation in afghanistan. more aggressive use of armed forces against terrorism. and bush rejected a lot of that. and so they did have a falling out. you look at some of the events that president bush is having now. cheney isn't even invited sometimes. they had a falling out. the last point on that, remember the guy named scooter who was vice president cheney's chief of staff. very important guy in the administration, and he was convicted of putting out information he wasn't supposed to put out. and violating classified information restrictions. china any for months pushed president bush to pardon him. and president bush refused. and because he felt that he had -- and needed to be punished. cheney never forgave bush for that. there was a tremendous friction they had to the end that existed to this day over the scooter business. the short answer is president bush paid a tremendous amount of cheney initially. then it faded as the term wore on and president bush felt he could make the decisions himself. >> several people have asked a little more about the role of pollsters. because there are probably as many pollsters as boston red sox. [laughter] how does the white house -- first of all, does the white house look at all of these polls and how do they filter through and figure out which ones are -- >> right. i paid a lot of attention to polling in the book. i have known all the presidents or pollsters starting with reagan. starting with richard, brilliant pollster for ronald reagan. reagan would have him come to the white house and brief him once a month he was not on the staff. he didn't want to be in the staff. he stayed as an outsider and insist order briefing the president personally. often just the two of them. so you wouldn't have other staffers interposing themselves. other people can that later. but the one had direct access to the president which was smart of him. what reagan wanted to pay attention to the polls. he came up with some of the pioneering techniques that are still used. he came wasn't question is the country headed in the right direction or on the wrong track? the famous right track wrong track question. as to this day, and got to be the best indicater of hue a president is doing. the president tend to do similar to what the people think about right track wrong track. right now 70% of americans think we're on the wrong track. it includes conservatives, one reason, liberals for another reason. everyday people whatever. there's a tremendous dissatisfaction with right now. it's seen as right track wrong track figure. he inconveniented a lot of these polling notions. as time went on if anything has become more important, president obama uses polling very extensively today. as i said and the republican last time. the key thing to me is the president shouldn't ignore the pollster or polling. but should have other views that he can bounce the polls off people for. president obama does do that. i keep -- president obama because he's president now, of course. but he has terrific pollsters. it anything he should probably listen to them more. from what i gathered, they saw some of the problem coming with the health care law that president obama's other advisers were not telling him about. you talk about the bubble, i think they gave him a disservice in an effort to protect him or in a sense of humor they'll figure it out in the end. it didn't work out that way. one of the contacts the president inevidently has outside the bubble is leaders of other foreign countries. to what degree is that a good check and balance in the isolation? >> that's a very good question. not everybody does to have more of a relationship with some people rather than others. sometime it is would be surprising why who the presidents bond with. if you look at president reagan and president bush the father and reagan. somehow there was one leader they could call during a crisis. just because the person made them feel good. it was bryan moe loan any of canada. you would never imagine that. he was a back slapping, fun-loving guy. for some reason, he just got along well with the american presidents. part was -- he was giving them small support. that's what it is. i don't think presidents take policy advice very often. they get support or bond with them and get reinforced. a couple of convict example. there's no closer -- churchill, first of all. saw eye to eye on so many things. it reinforced a lot of roosevelt's views. he disagreed on a lot of things. reagan and thatcher. it was a tremendously close relationship. they got along very well. and the conservatives at the time when they were trying to get their country to go along with them. and bill clinton and tony blair and george w. bush and tony blair which hurt his image in great britain. you remember he was thought of as the lap dog of the -- the poodle they called him in the newspaper for the american president. but he was supportive of clinton and bush. i think that's what it is. the personalities so often is what makes a difference. not the policy advice. presidents want to have almost like a buddy system. it they get somebody they can count on to support them or understand what they're doing. it's very important. >> the tapping their cell phone. >> tapping their cell phones. it's not the happy camper these days because the phone has been tapped. and i think, you know, president obama said i didn't know. how could he not have known. i find hard believe myself. but the tapping i'm sure we do that. and they do it to us. they try to find out what we're doing. i remember when i covered the white house one of the senior officials. when we're talking, don't stand too close to the windows. because the soviet embassy on a hill. they have sophisticated listening devices and we know they can hear us if we're too close to the window. it's at the white house. and so you can imagine what happens now. things are so sophisticated now. i think the surveillance -- it is a problem with the administration that it has come out. >> we have a little time left. there are several questions outside of the technical scope of your book. of your expertise on. first the feeling about the senate vote yesterday to change the filibuster rules. >> right. what happened now after many, many months and years the senate has finally changed this part of the filibuster rule, which required 60 votes to approve the president's nominations for senior officers in the government and some judges. not the supreme court but the judges. now we'll take 51 votes. which is where it is focused. but then now what happened is that the republican minority has blocked so many things. so many judges, so many apartments. that finally the white house and senator the democratic leader said enough. they call it the nuclear option. now what the republicans are saying. okay when we take over the senate. watch with we do. we're not going to let you have the minority blocking things. and so, you know, that's the other part of it. but they have -- i think more of that is made than should be right now. because people are saying president obama can name a lot of liberal judges now. yes, he can. you don't wind up in the supreme court where you have 5-4 court majority. until that change, i think it's a bad analogy that he's going to be able to get a lot of policies through the court now. you have the supreme court still. i think it's an example of how everybody is looking for every advantage in washington, and this is another example of the democrats feeling that the republican minority has too much power in blocking things. and so they finally take steps to start changing it. and the mlrb for a long time. have enough commissionsers. >> arm inform our courts around the country don't have judges that handle the workload. they have been blocked. they just stalled and don't vote on them then wait so long that the people say i have to do something else. it becomes a real anchor weighing down the judiciary in at lough ways. >> a lot of final area we appreciate your views on. you touched on a bit. good legislation or bad. how do we get there? do we get out of it? >> well, that's a topic a. right now. we were talking about this the other night. what we can piece together, as we know now this is the latest example of it. attempting to change a huge complicated program like health care is just a vast undertaking. it's always going to have problems. and that's what is happening now. i think there were some on the administration's part they can get through this. they are smart enough. they can do it in-house. there was a tremendous number of people they had in the campaign that are technical wizards. they should have used. they didn't do that. now they bring in business corporate experts on technology young people are not trying to get it fixed. the damage has been done to the credibility of the program now. it's going to take awhile to get it fixed and working. thairp saying by the end of the month, the enrollment website will be working for most people. we'll see. what it is the big problem with it it undermines the corner stone of president obama's approach to the government. the government can be relied on to be exeat tent and get it done. we don't want to, i don't think, take it too far. but it's a black eye for the government so far in trying to take it on. and, you know, you wonder the signature initiative of president obama should pay more attention to how it's happening. i say yes. i think he was relying on the people around him to give him candid assessment what was going on. they missed the vote. they just messed up. that's where we are. was it a bubble or messing up? i think it was both. they felt -- i don't think they understood the mart of the bubble. they didn't understand how complicated it was going to be and how one thing leads to other consequences they could or could not foresee. the whole notion now can you get enough healthy people, particularly young people, to sign up so there enough money in the system to pay for the people who are sick who need the care. it's been a corner stone of the whole law. young people in particular or healthy people will sign up for it. we don't know if they will. another consult assistant pointed out the other day you have some of the people who who are least tech lodgely able are supposed to sign up using technology. that's part of the problem. old folks who may not be that in to -- are supposed to sign up through the thing. they don't -- my mother would not know how to do this if. just one level of consequence after another. i don't think it was anticipated. and, you know, a chance it works out. it will take some time. but, you know, president obama has a lot of things he wants to do domestically. and foreign affairs and so will it mean there will be less willingness of the democrats to go along with some of the stuff. it may mean that. immigration reform. >> i was working on a blog about that. he's not anywhere being a lame duck. what you're going it see is him by passing congress more and more. you see him not only in foreign policy, which presidents can do more easily on domestic issue. you'll see him try to work out deals on syria and iran. try to work out something on the israeli and palestinian. it's a challenge. presidents have a lot of the latitude on foreign affairs. he'll use. they don't go through congress many times. on domestic issues yo u so e more executive actions. executive orders, action. you're about to see a huge over climate change. the epa is about issue regulations to make it much more difficult for new coal-fired power plants to be built. my feeling we can go on for two, or three, more. we're not going to. because we have to stop. i want to thank you for a wonderful presentation. >> thank you. >> very interesting to us. we will look forward to reading your book. >> thank you for having me. [applause] thank you, everyone. commonwealth club is now adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] now joins us is lincoln in the a making of the statesman and dawn of american power. what is the tact you're taking with lincoln? >> well, i mean, there are 15,000 books about abraham lincoln, but his foreign policy is almost never treated. my book is about lincoln and u.s. foreign policy. part of the reason there hasn't been about lincoln's foreign policy in nearly 70 years. a human narrative about it. that's before the lincoln papers were released and library of congress in 1947. so there's a lot of water under the bridge since then. but i think one of the reasons there's no book about his foreign policy. he a strong and competent secretary of state. he didn't do everything in foreign affair. but the things he did do are really important. and s

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committed this crime. >> it's impossible. a man cannot be in two places at the same time. >> reporter: some said police ignored a another potential suspect. >> one of the concerns that i have is that you're one of the last people to see betsy. >> they wanted to blame somebody and the police were telling them that it was me so they decided to believe that. >> reporter: an innocent man railroaded by investigators? >> in the 25 years i've been practicing law, i have never seen anything like it. >> reporter: >> reporter: here's david morrison with the house on sumac drive. >> narrator: in a small town not far from st. louis, missouri. the woman inside no longer felt the cold, she would never feel anything now. it was 9:40 p.m. all over but the call to 911. >> what is the location of your emergency? i need you to take a couple of deep breaths so i can see what's going on. >> i just got home from my friends' house and my wife is dead. >> narrator: the man on the phone was hysterical. >> what is her name? >> her name is betsy. >> betsy? >> yes. >> narrator: betsy faria. >> do you think she's beyond help right now? >> she's dead. oh, god. >> narrator: betsy faria was dead and gone at 42. and early death for betsy as you will hear, but not a surprise. that had been preordained, sad to say. no, it was how it happened, when it happened, why it happened. those were the mysteries burrowed down the rabbit hole, as you shall see. the first you need to know about betsy faria, she was one of four girls in her family, mary rogers and judy sweeney were older sisters. >> betsy was the most outgoing and the most social. >> kind of gleg gregarious? >> gregarious is a great word. she could start up a party. she was in her element when she was out there. she could get anybody on the dance floor. whether they wanted to or not. >> uh-huh. >> narrator: betsy was a single mother of two daughters. leah and mariah when she met russ, and he seemed perfect for her, funny, outgoing, big heart. said russ's cousin mary anderson. >> she was a jokester, you never see him without him laughing. >> narrator: and said russ, she was the perfect woman for him. >> she encouraged me to go back to school and get my degree which led to a better job and more money, things like that. >> yeah. >> which i probably would not have done had she not done that. >> we created a big bond and leah, you know, bonded with me as well. >> narrator: betsy and russ got married in january of 2000. and like many couples, they had good times and then less good times. for more than a year, they actually lived apart. >> we argued a lot, you know, and it's always darkest before the dawn, they say. >> and then betsy told him, she found a church that meant a lot to her. maybe he would like to come. >> the first week we went they were starting a series on marriage, it kind of seemed like an omen. >> that's when, russ said, they fell in love again. >> narrator: but life will have its way with a person. like it or not. betsy found out she had breast cancer. >> christmas of 2009 she told us that she thought she had it and it was diagnosed in january of 2010. that's when she had a mastectomy. >> went through a lot of crying, a lot of heart ache, you know, a lot of hard time, but we kept our faith and we kept praying. >> and she handled it with such grace. she just amazed the millions of people that she knows. she was involved in tennis, she just continued playing tennis, you would never know she was going through chemo. >> narrator: and maybe that helped her beat it. in winter of 2011, betsy's doctor told her her cancer was in remission. so they decided to celebrate, they organized a caribbean cruise and invited their friends and family to come along. >> she thinks i'm free and clear, then this bomb gets dropped on her. >> narrator: the cancer was back, had spread to her liver. >> it was inoperable, it was too far in her liver that they couldn't take it out. >> narrator: she had, with luck, three to five years, perhaps less. so what did russ and betsy do? they went on that cruise anyway, took their whole gang with them. betsy got to swim with the dolphins, a dream she had had for years. >> just to see how happy she was made me happy. >> she told everybody this was kind of like a second honeymoon. they had the best sex they could ever have while they were on this cruise. >> narrator: but then a few weeks later, betsy was dead. but it certainly wasn't the cancer that killed her. >> reporter: how did betsy die? the answer to that wasn't clear at all. her husband who called 911 had one idea. but investigators had another. >> it's not typical for someone that's going to commit suicide to do it by the way that she done it. and that's what concerns me. if it doesn't work fast... you're on to the next thing. clinically proven neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair. it targets fine lines and wrinkles with the fastest retinol formula available. you'll see younger looking skin in just one week. one week? this one's a keeper. rapid wrinkle repair. and for dark spots rapid tone repair. from neutrogena®. you'll really digs rapid the savings. at the petsmart spring savings sale. save up to 25% on thousands of items, and save $5 on select varieties of innova® nature's table dog food. at petsmart®. 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she was just here last night. >> narrator: officer s also wen to betsy's sister julie's house. >> i gave them the look,like i don't think that sounds right. >> narrator: by the time police offered that suicide suggestion to betsy's family, they already knew, the death of betsy faria was no suicide, not even possible. emergency responders could tell right away. and investigators found betsy's body had been stabbed many times. russ the husband, the man who supposedly discovered the boyd had some explaining to do. but that night, at the sheriff's department, getting him to focus was not an easy thing. >> oh, god! >> i think you're the only one that can help us with this right now. >> i don't know what to do. >> narrator: but investigators had a job to do, find betsy's killer and they thought it might be russ. who was incredibly emotional. was he acting? was this florid grief actually real? whatever it was, russ seemed to be sticking to the suicide story. >> what do you think happened to betsy? >> it was like she killed herself. >> narrator: but did he really not know about all those other stab wounds? and something else, betsy's body was cold and stiff when those first responders arrived, rigor mortis had all right set in, the blood was drying, based on that it appeared that betsy had been dead for some time when russ called 911. so detectives zeroed in on betsy and russ's movements. >> tell me about your night. >> narrator: betsy said that she had a chemo point that afternoon, and she was going to go to her mother's afterward and russ would drive her home. when she called her husband sometime after 5:00 p.m. -- >> i asked her if she needed a ride home, she said no, her friend was going to bring her home. she said she had something to talk to me about, i said is it good or bad? she said it's good, no worries. i said, okay, i'll see you at home later, and i love you and that was the last time i talked to her. >> narrator: after that, said russ, he ran some errands and as he almost always did on tuesday evenings, he arrived at a friend's house where they had what he called game nights. >> but that particular night, my friend had gotten a couple of movies so we decided to watch movies instead. >> narrator: he left at 9:00, he left, got a sand witch at the local drive through and then drove back to his house in troy, which would have put him there at a 9:45 p.m. >> i took my jacket off and calling for betsy and i seen her there on the floor. >> will you ever forget what that waslike coming into the house seeing that? >> i see it every time i close my eyes. i felt down by her and i looked and i saw a cut on her arm and i saw a knife in her neck. >> that's all russ said he saw. so it looked like she r betsy had done it deliberately. >> you're calling it a suicide, do you have any idea who may have harmed betsy? >> no, everybody loved betsy. she was a positive soul. she always brought smiles to people. she made me smile all the time. she made me so proud. >> it's not typical for someone that's going to commit suicide to do it by the way that she done it. and that's what concerns us. >> narrator: so it did. it also made russ the prime suspect. co >> reporter: coming up, russ and betsy's relationship. they had recently enjoyed that romantic cruise, but a friend tells police, things between them weren't that sunny. >> he started playing this game of putting a pillow over her face, this is what it's going to feel like when you die, and he would act like he was kidding. >> reporter: as "dateline" continues. oh my goodness! let's bubble! mega shower foamer stays where you spray with ultra cling technology. and the wide angle spray covers more of the mess! wide spray, ultra cling... that's nice teamwork! we work hard so you don't have to. sc johnson, a family company. ♪ see what's new at projectluna.com still running in the morning? 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[♪] not long after russ faria found his wife dead, the police took him in for a long night of questions and a polygraph test, the following afternoon, though, said russ, when he saw the machine -- >> honestly, i don't even know if that thing was on or not. >> narrator: but after it, they told him he failed it miserably, so he must have done it. they said, time for him to confess. >> the fact of the matter is you did it. >> no, i did not. i wasn't even there. >> russ, you were there. >> no, i found her like that when i came home. >> narrator: it seemed obvious said the investigators, either russ killed betsy in a sudden blind rage or he was a cold-blood ed killer who planned the crime. which was it? they demanded to know. >> i did not do this. >> narrator: russ denied it again and again, dozens of times, but investigators didn't buy it. and much of the reason for that is they were hearing from this woman, pamela hupp, pam met betsy years earlier when they both worked in the insurance industry and she had a lot of things to say about russ. including what sounded like a big, fat motive. money. >> he makes comments about how much money he'll have after she's gone because she's got, i don't know for sure, because i have never seen the financials, he's got life insurance on her at work, she's got life insurance. >> pam hupp said that she was with betsy the day she died. they would save money and she would be closer to friends and her chemo treatment. but pam claims betsy was concerned about how russ would react to that idea. >> and she goes, i'm telling you right now, he's going to get very angry. she said he's tired of moving, he is staying in his house and that's it. >> so she already approached him with the idea? >> she was going to approach him when he came home. >> narrator: could that have set russ off? investigators asked him about that. >> she never mentioned that to me. >> she said she wanted to ta hao share with you when she got home. >> we never talked about that. >> narrator: investigators didn't believe that, especially when -- >> he would start playing this game of putting a pillow over her face to see what it would feel like, i don't know if she said, this is what it's going to feel like when you die or whatever and then act like he was kidding. she was very upset. >> did she sound scared? >> oh, yeah. >> narrator: so they took that accusation to russ too. >> how many times did we practice putting a pillow over her face and suffocating her and telling her this would what it would feel like to die? >> who did that? >> why would pam tell the police that betsy said you had done that and that she was scared. >> she had no reason to believe that. >> narrator: it wasn't just the pam hupp story that -- though betsy was killed in her living room, investigators found her blood on a light switch in the bedroom and on a pair of russ's slippers, stashed in a bedroom closet. >> the fact of the matter is it's a sloppy crime scene, there's blood on your clothes in your residence, in your bedroom. >> i didn't even go to my bedroom. >> narrator: and they confronted russ with the horrifying thought that betsy had been stabbed over and over again, many, many times. >> you absolutely -- >> betsy was stabbed over 25 times, we're still counting. a burglar doesn't do that, russ, a stranger doesn't do that. somebody who loves that person does that. somebody who goes into a blind rage does that. >> narrator: there was only one option said the investigators, russ was going to have to come clean and confess. >> there's no one else that has any kind of motive, monetary or crime of passion. >> i can't tell you what i don't know. i don't know. and i said i can't confess to something i didn't do and i can't give you details for something that i wasn't present for. >> there was never a focus on anybody else. >> narrator: it was the day after the murder that russ's cousin mary heard that russs with being questioned. she had scene russ just a few days later. everyone was fine then. >> betsy was laughing and happy. she was even saving him a spot on the couch. she was like here, baby, you can sit next know. >> narrator: russ would not and could not have killed betsy. by the time investigators released russ 48 hours after he was first brought in for questioning, the story was all over local media. >> reporter: this case has been taking a lot of turns today. >> it was hard, i mean they showed my picture on the news -- >> they said you were the main suspect? >> yeah, that's what it appeared. and while i was watching it, my family came in and turned it off. they said you don't need to watch that. >> narrator: some keep began rethinking the man. maybe those jokes and pranks of his were really rather immature and crude and boorish. betsy's church friends had spent a lot of time with betsy and russ. >> many people would describe him as a pig, the things he would say, not respectful. he would do it to everybody, but he was doing it to his wife too. >> you wouldn't understand, it doesn't matter. you don't say that in a group of other people to your spouse. >> betsy's mother who said she was very close to russ, also remembered a few things that now stuck out like a sore thumb. >> he told a friend of mine's husband, that if he got in a fight with somebody, he would fight to kill. >> narrator: and betsy's sisters, they weren't aware that russ ever physically hurt betsy, but when they thought about it, there was rage in that man. >> i think he had a lot of built up anger. >> narrator: there was a time when russ chased one of the daughter's boyfriends with a baseball bat? >> who chases after a boyfriend with a baseball bat? >> yeah. did you see that happen? >> no. >> who told you about that? >> the girls. i think they were very scared about it. >> narrator: so when officers told the family about all those stab wounds -- >> when they said that, i didn't have any doubt in my mind, i never thought it could be anybody else but russ when they told me that. >> narrator: that's what the investigators were thinking too. but there were plenty of people in town who thought the idea that russ faria killed his wife was utter hogwash. and they said they could prove it. co . >> reporter: coming up -- what sounds like a solid alibi from russ's game night buddies. >> a man cannot be in two places at the same time. life with crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis is a daily game of "what if's". what if my abdominal pain and cramps end our night before it even starts? what if i eat the wrong thing? what if? what if i suddenly have to go? what if? but what if the most important question is the one you're not asking? 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hi mom! hi honey! i brought rubina! hello rubina! are the bills separate? all the bills are separate. oh, hi my love. and for a limited time when you switch to sprint and join a framily, you get $100 back. but when police accused him and betsy's family painted russ as an angry family man, other people in russ's world didn't believe it. >> they were very happy, and they were planning a trip to florida and it was going to be in march. if that's what you want to do, you plan it, we'll make it happen. >> narrator: after betsy's death, cousin mary saw russ's grief up close. >> he was heart broken and he kept saying how bad it hurt because he lost hiss betsy. that was the most heart wrenching thing to see. he broke down just talking to her all by himself, just him at the casket and he fell to the ground. he was a broken man. >> it was hard, it was really hard, but it was really nice to see how many people that she touched and that came. >> narrator: and as for that story pam hupp was telling about russ putting a pillow over betsy's face saying that's what death feels like? >> could russ have done such a thing? >> no, would russ put a cover over her head and part and say something like that, that he would do. because he was a jokester. but would he put a pillow over her face and do that? absolutely not. >> narrator: one of betsy's best friend was linda -- >> the way that he had spoken about losing betsy, you know how much he loved her and how he didn't know whether he was going to live without her. he was taking it really badly. >> narrator: but, said linda, the police didn't seem to want to hear any of that. >> they kept saying, do you think it could have been russ? >> narrator: but most of what you heard was just opinion, they had something much strong never their corner, an alibi. remember that game night russ said he attended between 6:00 and 9:00 p.m. that tuesday evening? this is michael corbin, the host of game night. that particular tusz night, mike said, russ and the others watched movies together and everyone left at 9:00 p.m. as usual. then, early the next day, mike and his girlfriend angie got a surprise. >> we were up having our morning coffee, got a knock on the door, which is instantly odd, about 6:00 or maybe a little bit before. the police more or less invited themselves in and started asking us a lot of questions, like was russell here last night? was there drinking? was he acting strangely? it was a really boring night, quite honestly. >> narrator: the police didn't say anything about betsy, they just asked a lot of questions about their game night the night before. three days later, there was another early morning knock on the door. they took angie in one car, me in another vehicle with two investigators and they questioned us separately, or interrogated us, i'll put it that way. >> narrator: the two others at mike's house that night were also picked up and questioned separately. they all said the very same thing, russ arrived around 6:00, they watched movies. >> and we were all within eight feet of each other the whole night. >> did he act the same as usual? >> he dozed off at one point, i know that he w-- >> narrator: it was simply the unsupported story of some friends. the surveillance camera showed russ stop for gas just after 9:15 p.m. more receipts, when he stopped by cigarettes, dog food a couple of iced teas, on the way to game night before 6:00 p.m. russell's cell phone pinged in those areas too and all evening, from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. near mike's house. and the receipt for his trip to the arrest by's drive through was-time stamped 9:09 p.m. the drive back to russ's house with that stop at arby's would put him at home just before he called 911. >> once we knew the timeline, we knew that he did not commit this crime. >> impossible? >> impossible, a man cannot be in two places at the same time. >> narrator: but detectives, not persuaded, not at all. after all, they had pam hupp's story and what they said was russ' failed polygraph and her blood on his slippers. and it wasn't long after betsy was killed that russell faria was arrested for the murder of his wife. >> reporter: coming up, some say investigators may have blown it because it's betsy's friend pam, not russ, who's the beneficiary of betsy's $150,000 life insurance policy. >> she got the money? >> she got the money. >> reporter: when "dateline" continues. ugh...this toilet paper's like sandpaper. 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>> in my opinion, the man got charged with murder and then it snowballed from there. >> narrator: one thing he said t receipts t cell tower pings, his friends' testimony, was a good an alibi as he had every seen. what stuck out to him was that there were also some very serious questions, like questions about pam hupp, who had bad mouthed russ . he was one of the last people to see betsy alive. between 6:00 to 9:00 p.m., when the window that betsy was thought to have died. inconsistencies stood out. to him anyone. example, betsy's mom said pam told her, she didn't go into betsy's house when she dropped her off that evening, but -- >> she told me a completely she said she went inside for 10 to 15 minutes. >> narrator: another one? when she left the house, she said betsy was sitting on the couch. but in another interview which was videotaped, she said something didn't. >> she may have still been on the couch, but today, it makes sense that she walked me to the door. >> narrator: beginning at 7:21, she had not a answered phone calls, including one from her daughter who she had promised to answer. >> at 7:27, there's a call from pam hupp's cell phone to betsy's cell phone. >> narrator: that one also went unanswered. but here's what pam told police about that 7:27 p.m. call. >> initially she stated i called to let her know that i was home safe. >> narrator: home? impossible, pam lived a half hour's drive away. >> but where was she based on the cell tower try angulation? >> she had not gotten, at the very most, three miles from the house, i think she was still at the house. >> narrator: but the biggest question, said schwartz was about insurance. it seemed very odd that three days before the murder, someone, supposedly betsy made pam the beneficiary of betsy's $150,000 life insurance policy. >> and she got the money? >> she got the money. >> narrator: pam hold investigators she was one of betsy's best friends and betsy wanted her to get the money to make sure her daughters got what they needed. but to make this important change, they went to a local library and had a young librarian, not a notary or any insurance company employee witness betsy's signature on the change of beneficiary form. the whole thing seemed very fishy to schwartz. >> i believed that betsy was conned in some way, shape or form into signing this policy without believing it would ever actually be sent to the insurance. company. which is why she never told anybody, including her own mother and her own sisters who she was very close with. >> narrator: but the lead detective told the insurance company pam was not a suspect. and so the company cut her the check. >> the husband always does it, so of course this is the guy who did it so i think that clouded their investigation. it's the only explanation in my eyes to explain what i consider to be a horribly deficient investigation. >> narrator: plus later that same lead detective was preparing pam to testify at russ's trial and warned her the defense would certainly bring up the issue. >> one of the concerns that i have is, again, like i said, just because you're one of the last people to see betsy. you get this money given to you. >> narrator: after all said the detective, pam did benefit from betsy's death to the tune of $150,000. >> they're going to suggest that you had something to do with the planning or the conspiracy to commit that murder because of your financial wind fall. >> narrator: and not only that -- >> what you're originally told investigators is that you did this to try to get the kids taken care of because she's afraid russ will get it. but at of this date, you haven't turned any money over to the family or the kids? >> no. >> that's a huge problem. >> narrator: the investigator said she should set up a trust for betsy's daughter. >> i told you that is my first phone call. >> sure. >> narrator: then the didnetect prepared pam for the key questions he thought the defense would ask. >> have you had anything to do with betsy's murder? >> no, i have not. >> narrator: attorney schwartz told the judge that indeed he did plan to ask pam hupp about all those things when she took the stand. but the judge said no. he could not ask about any of that because, said the judge, there was no direct connection between pam and the murder. >> in the 25 years i've been practicing law, i have never -- a witness testifies, you can cross-examination the witness, that's a basic tenet of law, their bias, their interest, the fact that they are the last person with the victim, the fact that they just recently were given the victim's insurance under who knows what pretenses. the fact that they lied about going in the house. the fact that they lied about where they were when they called the victim, after being in the house, and i couldn't get into any of that. i have never seen anything like it. >> narrator: both pam hupp and the district declined "dateline's" request for an interview. in any case, the case against russell faria wasn't over. russ had helpers as he set about killing his wife. >> reporter: coming up -- russ is stunned when the prosecution disputes his alibi. >> i have four credible people that i was with all evening and you might get one person to lie for you, you might even convince two -- >> reporter: but four? 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>> somebody attempted to stage this. >> dipped it in the blood? >> dipped it in the blood and hid them back in the closet. >> narrator: and the allegations that betsy had sex with russ before killing her. >> there were eight sperm cells found inside of her during the autopsy the next day. >> narrator: totally consistent with what russ told the police, that is intimacy two days before the murder. and besides all of that said the defense, given russ's alibi, there's simply no way he could have committed the crime. but the state wasn't quite finished with its case against russ faria. the prosecutor declined our request for an interview. in her closing art, she presented a theory of how the crime occurred. making claims for which she did not present evidence at trial. and those claims were big. the alibi, she told the jurors was all a set up for the precise intention of hiding a murder and that russ's game night friends were in deep, co-conspirators with who helped russ hatch the murder plan, waited for the right night to carry it out and then lied out about on the stand. >> we're innocent people. there is absolutely no evidence that we did anything wrong that night, there never will be because it didn't happen. >> narrator: and despite what the prosecutor argued, neither mike corbin nor any of the others have ever been charged with conspiracy nor have they been connected in any way to betsy's murder. so according to the prosecutor, how did russ do it without getting a single drop of blood on the clothes he wore all that evening and that night when he talked to detectives afterwards? here's how, said the prosecutor the jury. first, knowing what he intended to do, russ ran errands so he would appear in front of those surveillance cameras. then drove to his friend's house and dropped off his cell phone so it would ping there all evening. then he droved the half hour home, stripped naked, had sex with betsy, stabbed her more than 50 times, showered, put on his slippers, began to slip on the blood but caught himself and stopped, then he cleaned those slippers off. then he got dressed and one of his friends drove his car back to his house and then russ called 911 and quickly tossed his slipper into the closet. and what did russ think of all that? >> i thought she was making up some kind of cockamamy story. i had four correct people that i was with all evening. i don't know of anybody that would lie for anybody when it comes to a crime like that. you know, i wouldn't. not for my best friend, not for my mom. >> narrator: the more important question of course is what the jurors would think, they deliberated for 4 1/2 hours before arriving at a verdict. >> when you heard it? >> relief. huge relief. >> narrator: guilty. guilty of first-degree murder. >> it was devastating but i was trying my best to hold it together because my family's behind me there and i can hear them crying. >> how would people get the idea that you were in fact capable of this? >> i don't know. i previously had had a temper, but i never touched betsy in any way. they wanted to blame somebody and the police were telling them that it was me. >> narrator: russell faria was sentenced to life in prison. he's filing an appeal. and sits in his cell now unable to do much of anything but say -- >> i can't imagine ever being mad enough to do anything like that to anybody, let alone my wife whom i loved. i never stopped loving my wife. i'm innocent of this. i did not kill her. >> narrator: betsy's family was and remains convinced justice was done no matter what anybody says. >> if somebody were to come to you with strong evidence that wasn't russ but it was some other person, is that something that you could accept? >> i would still feel it's russ, 100%. >> narrator: as for pam hupp, she insisted to "dateline" she had no involvement in the murder, she said she had no motive to kill betsy, her dna wasn't found at the house and she cooperated with the police. pam also said she set up a trust for betsy's daughters. the family said it did not receive any insurance money. and meanwhile, the answer to the mystery, who killed betsy, still for some hangs in the air. resolved by a jury, and yet, does anyone really know? >> reporter: that's all for this edition of "dateline." we'll see you again next friday at 8:00, 7:00 central and i'll see you tomorrow on "today." i'm lester holt, for all of us . - previously grimm... - someone outside the family is carrying royal blood. what do you suppose a royal offspring would be worth? - but we must trust each other, or there will be no stopping the royal families. they will dominate the world again. i want you to get to adalind before they do. - you must leave immediately. - you didn't get her? 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we design good mornings. little experiments. big ideas. brighter ways. and better tomorrows you can take home today. imagine if everyday was just a little bit better for everyone. welcome to "world news." tonight, frozen nation. the very real dangers of the arctic blasts. temperatures not seen in decades. tonight, what doctors are seeing already. what authorities are telling the fans in green bay, 80,000 about to be outdoors in temperatures 15 degrees below zero. new england, the collapse and the airplane forced to make an emergency land on a snowy new york city highway. from chicago to green guy, from boston to new york. our extreme weather team out in full force. and remembering one-half of the legendary singing duo. >> this one's called at that time kathy's clown. again with the everly brothers. >> a look back at the life of phil everly. ♪ don't want your love >> the younger brother hitting the higher notes. also tonight, going home. good news for a former first lady. and look who's waiting in the window for barbara bush. and the megasurprise, the mystery winner coming forward. how he remembered he might have purchased that winning ticket. good evening. great to have you with us on a saturday night watching indoors. just look at the map. by early next week, every state covered in purple will see temperatures at or well below freezing. it's deadly from the midwest to the east coast. to nebraska, look at this. battling the blaze and the frigid temperatures. all the way to the east. into vernon, connecticut, a man nearly hidden by the snow he's trying to clear away there. and as colds as it is, it's going to get worse. an arctic blast moving in, and covering it all from the midwest to the east. and begin with gooe joe benitez in chicago. getting more on top of the foot they have. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, david. yeah, the snow just started falling moments ago. in fact you can hardly see this beautiful chicago skyline already, and that chicago river completely frozen. this is our icy nation. tonight millions are bracing for more than just a snowstorm. but also a paralyzing deep freeze, a bone-chilling blast of bitter cold now threatening much of the nation. forecasters predicting sub zero wind chills beginning tomorrow. the most frigid in years. >> it's brutal. >> reporter: howl cold? water freezing in just seconds. >> now it's ice. >> reporter: temperatures expected to plummet in green bay, making tomorrow's ice bowl one of the coldest nfl games in history. the packers and 49ers playing in temperatures near 0. it will feel like 15 below zero. wbay's matt smith is there. >> the all-important tailgating forecast calls for a wind chill of negative 15. so for the roughly 80,000 fans brave enough to embrace the bitter cold, receive free hand warmers, free coffee and hot chocolate. >> reporter: while they prep for fun, there's real danger here in the midwest. watch just how quickly heat escapes the body. this thermal camera showing the heat pulling away within minutes. 16 people have died from weather-related injuries. doctors stressing be careful. doctor, what are some of the injuries you're seeing today? >> folks are not preventing injuries that they would encounter with strenuous exercise. >> reporter: now trying to get the homeless off the streets and into shelters. and back here in chicago, we're going to be seeing really heavy snow overnight. in fact, david, listen to this, come monday morning, we're talking about a daily temperature, a temperature in the daytime of 11 degrees or 11 below zero, david. it is going to be frigid here. >> all right. bundled up again tonight. and now to a frightening scene in the middle of the snow and cold in new york city. a small plane making an emergency landing on a major interstate lined with snow. the three people on board were taken to the hospital. not badly hurt. no one driving on the highway hurt either. no word on what forced the emergency landing. and tonight in boston, digging out, another emergency. a building collapsing under ice. abc's ron claiborne is there tonight. ron. >> reporter: david, boston got well over a foot of snow, and now hit with the arctic air that he was talking about. earlier this morning, the temperature around 0 and struggled to get into the 20s. the new challenge here and throughout the region, dealing with all of the snow that we got. the light and fluffy snow is now hardened into an icy, solid mass. lining streets and growing into miniature mountain ranges. major streets are well-plowed, but secondary roads are hard-packed. and from maine to maryland, plenty of shoveling to do. here in boston, more than 17 inches of snow. >> it's a wicked lot of snow. >> reporter: and all of that snow has to go somewhere. where does it go? >> we'll haul it way. we actually have -- >> reporter: to where? >> snow farm. doesn't mean we grow snow, we dump snow. >> reporter: in massachusetts, an historic building that caught fire during the storm collapsed under the weight of ice formed by all the water used by fire fighters to douse the blaze. and now a new danger from above, icicles. the next two or three days are especially tricky as temperatures seesaw. cold today, much warmer in the next couple of days. rises well above freezing and then rain and then temperatures plunging again back into the single digits. that'she recipe for a lot of ice. >> ron claiborne with the boston skyline. and the know behind him tonight. now to the cancellations at airports across this country in the midst of the storm. and we are at laguardia airport tonight. >> reporter: passengers still stranded from this week's snowstorm frustrated by long delays and cancellations at airports across the country. the roca family returned to chicago from a vacation in cancun to find the connecting flight to omaha cancelled. >> we didn't know any of this was going on. we should have stayed. >> reporter: the numbers are staggering. more than 4,000 delays today. but since the snow first started falling, more than 35,000. and tonight, jet blue customers firing off pictures of long lines. at laguardia, college student lisa cho spoke to us after spending thursday night on a cot. >> i was so tired. just knocked out. wasn't so bad. >> reporter: you heard from lisa, she is about to spend her third night at jfk airport. it's far from over. already hundreds of cancellations on the boards for tomorrow. >> thanks. i want to bring in meteorologist brad from wsb tonight. it reaches further south than atlanta. >> in the florida panhandle, we have cold weather watches and workings. and a winter storm watch. >> you are watching the snow accumulating in places with snow already. >> overnight tonight and through tomorrow, heavy snow in spots. 3 inches in kansas city, half a foot in st. louis. chicago, already a foot to a foot and a half on the ground, an additional 8 inches there, and 10 inches rarnd grand rapids. this is the leading edge of a cold air mass. so behind the snowstorm, some of the coldest air in decades. these are high temperatures. high in fargo, 17 and 19 below. minneapolis 11 and 15 below. in chicago, 12 below for a high temperature monday afternoon. >> but when you see 15 below in minneapolis, is that a record? >> it's very close to an all-time record low-high temperature in minneapolis. this hasn't been seen in decades. >> all right, brad, see you on gma. and one other note, a novel solution to the back breaking work of shoveling snow. it's made in america. it's a remote control snow blower from aaron from fort wayne indiana. it started out as a remote control lawn mower, but new chains on the tires and game-style controller. heck plow without a sweat. i see a story here in the making. in the meantime tonight, one place colder, antarctica, the u.s. coast guard sending a cutter, the polar star to help ships stuck in the ice pack. one a russian research ship, the other is a chinese ship that provided the helicopter to rescue passengers from the russian ship. the coast guard cutter is at least two days away. other news, a developing story u.s. intelligence officials are watching closely. in iraq, al-qaeda making their move, taking control of fallujah with sounds reminiscent of the iraq war. just listen tonight. [ gunfire ] you can hear the gunfire there. it has been deadly. of course, fallujah is the site of two of the bloodiest battles in the iraq war. the state department tonight saying, we are concerned by the efforts of the arrorist state o. their barberism against the iraqi security forces is on display. i want to bring in martha raddatz with us here on a saturday night. you have reported from fallujah many times. the obama administration has to be concerned with what they're seeing. >> they're very concerned, david. i remember talking to you just over two years ago when i was coming out with the last convoy of u.s. troops. i visited fallujah the day before it happened. it was rather unstable and frightening then. but tonight you have al-qaeda flags flying in this very key area right next to syria. >> you were saying we have a diplomatic team there, about 100 marines, but they're in baghdad. what can they do? >> most are not going anywhere. they're there to protect the embassy and the classified material. so the u.s. watching closely, sending drones, but not doing anything else. >> we'll be watching first thing in the morning. thank you. next to the vatican, pope francis is making headlines with the warning about future priests. here's abc's alex marquardt now. >> reporter: in the ten months since he was elected, pope francis has made a name for himself by saying exactly what he thinks. we now learn that the pope reportedly warned that youngpieces must be trained properly, otherwise we are creating little monsters, and then these little monsters mold the people of god. the pope's frankness has driven his favorability to a sky-high 92% with american catholic s. he has blasted the gap between rich and poor, and said -- you cannot serve the idol money and the living god at the same time. he recently called unfettered capitalism, "a new tyranny" riling many. this week, cardinal tim dolan of new york had to defend the pope the billionaire founder of home depot, ken langone, said they were unsettling comments. "you want to be careful about generalities," he said to dolan. "rich people in one country don't act the same as rich people in another country." >> the pope loves poor people, he loves rich people, he loves people. >> reporter: dolan also said the church's economic view is somewhere in the middle, between socialism and what he called cut-throat capitalism. but it's clear that pope francis' efforts to create a, "church of the poor," is leaving some feeling left out in the cold. david. >> all right, alex. thank you. and one more surprise from the pope tonight who's known to make an unexpected phone call from time to time. he called the nuns at a spanish convent, and when no answer, left a message in spanish. here's what he's saying in that voice mail, he asks, what are the nuns doing that they can't answer the phone? then saying this is pope francis, i wanted to offer greetings for the end of the year. maybe call again later. god bless you. he did call back, and they picked up. and answering a call for help tonight, we learned that on new year's day one of the richest men in the world needsed help. jeff bezos was rescued from a cruise ship after a kidney stone attack. the equadorians shuttling him to his private jet and we're told he's recovering. and good news for former first lady barbara bush out of the hospital. she had a bout of pneumonia. showing the dogs waiting at the window for her return. she celebrates her 69th wedding anniversary in the coming week. tonight we look back at the life of a music legend, phil everly. one-half of the everly brothers. ♪ i need you so that i could die ♪ ♪ i love you so phil everly on the left, one-half of the legendary duo. ♪ whenever i want you all i have to do is dream ♪ ♪ dream, dream, dream he was the younger brother hitting the higher notes. a career spanning five decades. ed sullivan introducing the brothers in 1957. >> here's the story of a little boy and girl who went to the movies and fell asleep. the everly brothers and their newest recording. >> at the peak of their stardom, they averaged a top ten hit every four months. ♪ wake up little suzie was banned from many radio stations because of the story line. two teens at a movie well-past midnight. too suggestive for the times. ♪ wake up little sooudy -- suze and me ♪ and here being iroroduced by a young dick clark oamerican bandstand. >> this one's called "kathy's clown." again, the everly brothers. ♪ ♪ don't want your love anymore ♪ don't want your kiss that's for sure ♪ ♪ i die each time i hear this sound ♪ ♪ here he comes that fancy clown ♪ it's believed that song might have sold more than any of the singles. the beatles calling themselves the english everly brothers. tonight so many legendary singers reacting, nancy sinatra tweeting, phil's gone. touring with phil and don was one of the thrills of my life. paul simon saying, phil and don were the most beautiful-sounding duo i have ever heard. both pristine and soulful. part of the birth of rock and roll. ♪ ♪ bye bye my love good-bye ♪ bye bye my love good-bye their music gets better with time. doesn't it? tonight his wife patty saying he fought long and hard against a lengthy illness, but we are absolutely heartbroken. much more ahead on world news this saturday night. the stunning story behind the megamillions winner how he remembered he bought the ticket. and the famous singer stunning her assistant. jennifer hudson's shocker. back in two minutes. we use this board to compare car insurance rates side by side, so you get the same coverage, often for less. 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[ male announcer ] ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. she was the contestant on american idol, finishing far from first. jennifer hudson proving to everyone they were wrong. now it's her assistant winning big. he's reena ninan. >> reporter: it's a scene similar to the ones she played on the big screen as carrie bradshaw's assistant who was gifted a big surprise. >> oh my god. my very own louis vuitton? >> reporter: this time it's actress and singer jennifer hudson who's doing the gifting. 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>> impossible. >> it's impossible. i man cannot be in two places at the same time. >> some said police ignored another potential suspect. >> one of the concerns that i have is you're one of the last i'm people to see betsy. >> they decided to believe that. >> an innocent man railroaded by investigators. >> in the 25 years i've been prague law i've never seen anything like it. >> or a killer protected by his tuesday night buddies. i'm lester holt and this is "dateline." here's keith morrison with the house on sumac drive. >> on the 27th of december, 2011, in a small town not far from st. louis, missouri, a frigid night sank heavy and still around the house on sumac drive. but the woman inside no longer felt the cold, she would never feel anything now. it was 9:40 p.m. the call to 911. >> what is the location of your emergency? >> eh. >> i need you to take a couple deep breaths. >> i just got home from a friend's house and my wife -- my wife -- >> the man on the phone was hysterical. >> what is your name? >> her name is betsy. >> betsy? >> yes. >> betsy fathria and the crying you hear is russell. >> russell, do you think she's beyond help right now? >> she's dead. >> okay. >> oh, my god. oh, my god. >> betsy was dead and gone at 42 and, yes, early death for betsy as you will hear was not a surprise, that had been preordained. no it was how it happened. how it happened. why it happened. those were the mysteries burrowed down the rabbit hole as you shall see. but first you need to know about betsy faria. she was one of four girls in her family, mary rogers and judy swainny were older sisters. >> betsy was the most outgoing and most social. >> gregarious. >> gregarious is a great word for her. she was an individual. you couldn't tell her no. she did what she wanted to do and she started deejaying at the age of i think she was 18, maybe even younger than that. >> wow. >> and she could start up a party. >> she was in her element when she was out there. she could get anybody on the dance floor. whether they wanted to for not. >> yes. betsy was a single mother of two daughters, lea and mariah when she met russ and he seemed just about perfect for her, funny, outgoing, had a big heart says russ' heart mary anderson. >> he was a happy person, he was a jokester. you never seen him without him laughing. >> and said russ, she was the perfect woman for him. >> she encouraged me to go back to school and get my degree which led to a better job and more money, things like that which i probably wouldn't have done had she not come along. >> when russ met betsy her daughters were very young, mariah still a tiny girl. >> we really created a big bond, you know and lea, you know, bonded with me, as well. >> betsy and russ got married in january 2000 and like many couples they had good times and then less good times. for more than a year they actually lived apart. >> we argued a lot, you know and it's always darkest before the dawn they say. >> then betsy told him she'd found a church that meant a lot to her, maybe he'd like to come. >> the first week we went there, they were starting a series on marriage. it was kind of like omen. >> and that is when their marriage got better again. >> you know, we kind of refell in love with one another. >> but life will have its way with a person. like it or not. betsy found out she had breast cancer. >> christmas of 2009 she told us that she thought she had it and it was diagnosed in january 2010. that's when she had her mastectomy. >> we went through a lot of crying, a lot of heartache, you know, and just a lot of hard times. we kept our faith and kept praying? >> she handled it with such grace. she just amazed the millions of people that she knows. she was involved in tennis. she just continue playing tennis. you'd never know she was going through chemo. >> and maybe that helped her beat it. in the winter of 2011, betsy's doctor told her the cancer was in remission. so she and ru schlt schlss deci celebrate and organized a caribbean cruise and invited their friends and family to come along. >> she thinks i'm free and clear and then this bomb gets dropped on her. >> the cancer was back. it had spread to her liver. >> it was inoperable. it was too far in her liver that they couldn't take it out. >> she had with luck three to five years, perhaps less. so what did russ and betsy do? they went on a cruise anyway, took their whole gang with them. betsy got to swim with the dolphins, a dream she had had for years. >> just seeing how happy she was made me happy. >> she told everybody that this was a second honeymoon for them. she said it was the best thing that happened. they had the best sex that they could ever have while they were on this cruise. >> but then a few weeks later, betsy was dead. but it certainly wasn't the cancer that killed her. >> how did betsy die? the answer to that wasn't clear at all. her husband who called 911 had one idea. >> she killed herself. >> but investigators had another. >> it's not typical for someone that's going to commit suicide to do it by the way that she done it. and that's what concerns me. we really wanted to take a relaxing trip to florida. you know? just to unwind. but we can only afford one trip this year, and his high school reunion is coming up in seattle. everyone's going. then we heard about hotwire... and realized we could actually afford to take both trips. 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>> she sliced her arms. >> now, much later, russ told us something clicked when he saw her lying there. >> well, she had talked about it years before and actually tried it once or twice. >> and when you came in? >> i saw slashes on her arms and that was the first thing that just registered in my mind. >> early the next morning, betsy's mother, janet myers got a knock on the door. officers standing there on her doorstep. >> one of them just looked right at me and said, betsy's dead. and i said, well, how could she be dead? she was just here last night. >> officers also went to betsy's sister julie's house. >> they said it was a possible suicide. you know, i looked at her and kind of give her this look like, i don't think that sounds right. >> the thing is by the time police offered that suicide suggestion to betsy's family, they already knew the death of betsy faria was no suicide, not even possible. first responders could tell right away. and the medical examiner's office found betsy's body had been pierced many, many times including wounds most likely inflicted after she was already dead. harding surprising police might be casting around for suspects or russ the husband, the man who supposedly discovered the body had some explaining to do. but that night at the sheriff's department getting him to focus was not an easy thing. >> oh, god! >> i think you're the only one that can help us with this right now. >> i don't know what to do. >> but investigators had a job to do, find betsy's killer, and they thought it might be russ who was incredibly emotional. was he acting? was this florid grief actually real? whatever it was, russ seemed to be sticking with the suicide story. >> what do you think happened to betsy? >> it was like she killed herself. >> narrator: but did he really not know about all those other stab wounds? and something else, betsy's body was cold and stiff when those first responders arrived, rigor mortis had already set in, the blood was drying. based on that it appeared that betsy had been dead for some time when russ called 911. so detectives zeroed in on betsy and russ's movements. >> tell me about your night. >> russ said betsy had a chemo appointment that afternoon. planned to go to her mom's house afterwards and then russ would drive her home. at least that was the arrangement, but when he called betsy some time after 5:00 p.m. -- >> i asked her if she needed a ride, i'm on my way home, she said, no, her friend was going to bring her home. she said she had something to talk to me about, and i said is it good or bad? she said it's good, no worries. and i said, o., well, i'll see you at home later and i love you and that was the last time i talked to her. >> after that, said russ, he ran some errands and then at 6:00 as he almost always did on tuesday evenings, he arrived at a friend's house where they had what he called game nights. >> we go over there on tuesday nights and we usually play games. but that particular night, my friend had gotten a couple of movies and so we decided to watch movies instead. >> he left at 9:00, he said, stopped for a couple of sandwiches at a local orby's drive-through and then drove back to his house in troy, which would have put him there at a 9:45 p.m. he said he walked through the unlocked front door all unsuspecting and then -- >> i was taking my jacket off and calling for betsy, and the next thing i seen her there on the floor. >> will you ever forget what that was like coming into the house and seeing that? >> i see it every time i close my eyes. i fell down there by her and look and i saw cuts on her arm and i saw a knife in her neck. >> that's all russ said he saw. so it looked like she had done it herself deliberately. >> you're calling it a suicide, do you have any idea who may have harmed betsy? >> no, everybody loved betsy. she was a positive soul. she always brought smiles to people. she made me smile all the time. she made me so proud. >> it's not typical for someone that's going to commit suicide to do it by the way that she done it. and that's what concerns us. >> so it did. it also made russ the prime suspect. >> coming up, russ and betsy's relationship, they had recently enjoyed that romantic cruise, but a friend of betsy's tells police things between them weren't that sunny. >> he started playing this game of putting a pillow over her face, this is what it's going to feel like when you die and act let's face it, most people don't know how to choose a new dentist. that's where we come in. we've helped over 8 million people find the right dentist, and we can do the same for you. call 1-800-dentist today. ♪ not long after russ faria found his wife dead, the police took him in for a long night of questions and a polygraph test the following afternoon, though, said russ, when he saw the machine -- >> honestly, i don't even know if that thing was on or not. >> but after it, they told him he failed it miserably, so he must have done it. they said, time for him to confess. >> the fact of the matter is you stabbed betsy. >> no, i did not. i wasn't even there. >> russ, you were there. >> no, i found her like that when i came home. >> it seemed obvious said the investigators either russ killed betsy in a sudden blind rage or he was a cold-blooded killer who planned the crime. which was it? they demanded to know. >> i did not do this. >> narrator: russ denied it again and again, dozens of times, but investigators didn't buy it. and much of the reason for that is they were hearing from this woman, pamela hupp. she was the woman who drove betsy home that evening. pam met betsy years earlier when they both worked in the insurance industry, and she had a lot of things to say about russ including what sounded like a big, fat motive. money. >> he makes comments about how much money he'll have after she's gone because she's got, this is what she said -- i don't know for sure, because i have never seen the financia, he's got life insurance on her at work, she's got life insurance. >> pam hupp told investigators that she had been with betsy the day she died and that betsy told her about a proposal she was going to make to russ that the two of them move into her relative's house while they rented out their home in troy. they'd save money that way and be closer to friends for her chemo treatment. but pam claims betsy was concerned about how russ would react to that idea. >> and she goes, okay, i'm telling you right now, he's going to get very angry. she said he's tired of moving, he is staying in his house and that's it. >> so she already approached him with the idea? >> she was going to approach him when he came home. >> could that have set russ off? investigators asked him about that. >> she never mentioned that to me. >> well, that was the news she wanted to share with you when you got home. >> i never got a chance to hear it. the first time i heard about it was when you told me. >> investigators didn't believe it especially when they heard the bombshell pam laid on her. a disturbing game russ played with betsy. >> he would start playing this game of putting a pillow over her face to see what it would feel like, i don't know if she said, this is what it's going to feel like when you die or whatever and then act like he was kidding. she was very upset. >> did she sound scared? >> oh, yeah. >> so they took that accusation to russ too. >> how many times did we practice putting a pillow over her face and suffocating her and telling her this would what it would feel like to die? how many times -- >> i never did that. >> why would her friends tell the police that you had done that and that she was scared. >> she had no reason to be scared of me. she's never been scared of me. >> but it wasn't just the pam hupp story that made him a key suspect. though betsy was killed in her living room, investigators found her blood on a light switch in the bedroom and on a pair of russ' slippers stashed in a bedroom closet. >> the fact of the matter is it's a sloppy crime scene, there's blood on your clothes in your residence, in your bedroom. >> i didn't even go to my bedroom. >> and they confronted russ with the horrifying fact that betsy had been stabbed over and over again, many, many times. >> you absolutely -- >> stabbed over 25 times. >> oh, my god, no. >> over 25 times. they're still counting. >> oh, my god. >> a burglar doesn't do that, russ. a stranger doesn't do that. somebody who loves that person does that. somebody who goes into a blind rage does that. >> there was only one option, said the investigators. russ was going to have to come clean and confess. >> there's no one else that has any kind of motive, monetary or crime of passion. >> i can't tell you what i don't know. i don't know. and i says, i can't confess to something i didn't do and i can't give you details for something that i wasn't present for. >> there was never a focus on anybody else. >> it was the day after the murder that russ' cousin mary heard that betsy was dead and that russ was being questioned. and that didn't make sense to her. she had seen betsy and russ just a few days earlier. everything seemed fine then. >> betsy was laughing and happy. she was even saving him a spot on the couch. she's like here, babe, can you sit next to me. >> russ would not, could not have killed betsy. by the time investigators released russ 48 hours after he was first brought in for questioning, the story was all over the local media. >> and, boy, this case has really been taking a lot of turns today. >> that was hard. i mean, they showed my picture on the news -- >> they said you were the main suspect? >> yeah, that's what it appeared. and while i was watching it, my family came in and turned it off. they said you don't need to watch that. >> some people began rethinking the man. maybe those jokes and pranks of his were really rather immature and crude and boorish. these church friends, sean dra and mcclanahan had spent a lot of time with betsy and russ. >> many people would describe him as a pig, the things he would say, not respectful. he would do it to everybody, but he was doing it to his wife too. >> oh, you know, you wouldn't understand. it doesn't matter. you're not smart enough. you don't say that in a group of other people to your spouse. of this though she shade she was very close to russ, also remembered a few things that now stuck out like a sore thumb. >> he told a friend of mine's husband that if he got in a fight with somebody, he would fight to kill. >> and betsy's sisters, they weren't aware russ ever they said, physically hurt betsy, but when they thought about it, there was rage in that man. >> i think he had a lot of built up anger. >> there was the time, said mary that russ chased one of the daughter's boyfriends with a baseball bat. >> who chases after a boyfriend with a baseball bat? >> yeah. did you see that happen? >> no. >> who told you about that? >> the girls. i think they were very scared about it. >> so when officers told the family about all those stab wounds -- >> when they said that, i didn't have any doubt in my mind, i never thought it could be anybody else but russ when they told me that. >> that's what the investigators were thinking too. but there were plenty of people in town who thought the idea that russ faria killed his wife was utter hogwash. and they said they could prove it. >> coming up, what sounds like a slam dunk alibi from russ' game night buddies. >> we knew that he could not have committed this time. >> impossible. >> it's impossible. a man cannot be in two places at the same time. huh, 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know that game show hosts should only host game shows? samantha, do you take kevin as your lawfully wedded husband... or would you rather have a new caaaaaar!!!! say hello to the season's hottest convertible... ohhh....and say goodbye to samantha. 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could russ have done such a thing? >> no, now, would russ put a cover over her head and fart and say something like that, that he would do. >> because he was a jokester. >> but would he put a pillow over her face and do that? absolutely not. >> one of betsy's best friend was linda hartman. she said russ was the last person she had's suspect killed betsy especially how upset he was about her terminal cancer. >> the way that he had spoken about losing betsy, you know how much he loved her and how he didn't know whether he was going to live without her. he was taking it really badly. >> but, said linda, the police didn't seem to want to hear any of that. >> they kept on asking me, do you think it could have been russ? >> but, of course, most of what you heard was just opinion. russ' defender had something much strong never their corner, an alibi. remember that game night russ said he attended between 6:00 and 9:00 p.m. the night betsy was murdered. this is michael corbin, the host of game night. a few of his friends have been coming by tuesday nights for years. >> essentially it's a way we can all get together, be sociable and not spend any money. >> that particular tuesday night, mike said, russ and the others watched movies together and everyone left at 9:00 p.m. as usual. then early the next day, mike and his girlfriend angie got a surprise. >> we were up having our morning coffee, got a knock on the door, which is instantly odd, about 6:00 or maybe a little bit before. the police more or less invited themselves in and started asking us a whole lot of questions about what happened last night? was russell here last night? was he drinking anything? was he acting strangely? there was a little bit of marijuana nafis smoked but i don't even know whose it was. it was a really boring night, quite honestly. >> the thing is the police didn't tell them anything beyond the fact that something happened to betsy, said mike. they just asked a lot of questions about their game night the night before. then three days later there was another early morning knock at the door. >> they took angie in one car, me in another vehicle with two investigators and they questioned us separately, or interrogated us, i'll put it that way. >> the two others at mike's house that night were also picked up and questioned separately. they all said the very same thing, russ arrived around 6:00, they watched movies. >> and we were all within eight feet of each other the whole night. >> did he act the same as usual? >> you know, he dozed off at one point. i know that looked over and he was sitting in my leather chair over on to the right but, again, i didn't think anything weird of this. i doze off occasionally during movie, as well. >> it was simply the unsupported story of some friends. a surveillance camera showed russ stopped for gas just after 9:15 p.m. more videos and receipts when he stopped by cigarettes, dog food a couple of iced teas on the way to game night before 6:00 p.m. russ' cell phone pinged in those area too and all evening from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. near mike's house. and the receipt for his trip to the ashby's drive-through was p timestamped 9:09 p.m. the drive back to russ' house with that stop at arby's would put him at home just before he called 911. >> once we knew the timeline, we knew that he could not have committed this crime. >> impossible? >> impossible, a man cannot be in two places at the same time. >> i know how your wife died. >> but detectives were not persuaded. not at all. after all, they had pam hupp's story, and what they said was russ' failed polygraph and her blood on his slippers. and it wasn't long after betsy was killed that russell faria was arrested for the murder of his wife. >> coming up, some say investigators may have blown it because it's betsy's friend pam, not russ, who's the beneficiary of betsy's $150,000 life insurance policy. >> she got the money? >> she got the money. >> when "dateline" continues. 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>> she's dead. >> the state said it sounded suspiciously hysterical like an act. betsy's mother said it sounded to her like howls of guilt. >> the 911 call was really goofy. >> goofy? >> yeah. oh, my god, oh, my god, oh, my god. it was like, what did i do? what did i do? >> he loved her, didn't he? >> uh-huh, that's what causes these crimes of passion. >> if that wasn't suspicious enough, said the state, it was also russ' clearly bogus suggestion that betsy killed herself, an obvious lie, they argued. after all, as they pointed out, the medical examiner discovered she had actually been stabbed more than 50 times. members of betsy's family including her daughters testified that russ had a temper. the friend who drove betsy home that night, pam hupp, told the jury what she told police, essentially that russ was a bad guy. the physical evidence said the state also proved that russ committed the murder. that is betsy's blood on his slippers and her blood on the bedroom light switch, even though she was killed in the living room. what's more, said the prosecutor, russ' semen was found in betsy, showing he had sex with her before killing her. as the prosecutor put it to the jurors, he violates her one more time. and as for russ' alibi, the prosecutor said it only made his movements that evening more suspicious, looked like he went out of his way to appear in front of cameras at multiple gas stations when he could have bought everything at one place. and his alibi to witnesses sounded suspiciously rehearsed, said the state. betsy's mother didn't think much of them when when they testified. >> they all were saying the exact same thing in the exact same monotones, da, da, da, da. it was unbelievable. >> and that was in essence, the state's case against russ faria. to which defense attorney joel schwartz said, are you kidding? >> in my opinion, the man got charged with murder and then it sort of snowballed from there. >> the one thing he said, the surveillance tapes, the receipts, the cell tower ping, the friends' testimony created an ally as airtight as any he had ever seen. what stuck out to him was that there were also some very serious questions, like for example questions about pam hupp, who had bad-mouthed russ to the police and the jury. pam, said schwartz, had to be one of of the last people to see betsy alive. between 6:00 to 9:00 p.m., when it was within the window that betsy was thought to have died. inconsistencies stood out. to him, anyway. example, betsy's mom said pam told her, she didn't go into betsy's house when she dropped her off that evening but -- >> she told the police a completely different story. she said she went inside for 10 to 15 minutes. >> another one? pam said when she left the house betsy was sitting on the couch. but in another interview which was videotaped, she said something different. >> she may have still been on the couch, but today it makes sense that she walked me to the door. >> and then there were the phone records beginning at 7:21, betsy did not answer phone calls including three from a doctor which just a short time earlier she had promised to answer. so was she dead by then? six minutes later. >> at 7:27, there's a call from pam hupp's cell phone to betsy's cell phone. >> that one also went unanswered. but here's what pam told police about that 7:27 p.m. call. >> initially she stated i called to let her know i was home safe. >> home? not possible said schwartz. pam lived a half hour's drive away. but where actually was she based on the cell tower triangulation? >> the cell phone triangulation showed she had not gotten more at the very most three miles from the house. at the very least she was still at the house. >> but the biggest question, said schwartz, was about insurance. it seemed very odd that three days before the murder, someone, supposedly betsy made pam the beneficiary of betsy's $150,000 life insurance policy. >> and she got the money? >> she got the money. >> pam told investigators she was one of betsy's best friends and betsy wanted her to get the money to make sure her daughters got what they needed. but to make this important change, they went to a local library and had a young librarian, not a notary, or any insurance company employee witness betsy's signature on the change of beneficiary form. the whole thing seemed very fishy to schwartz. >> i believed that betsy was conned in some way, shape or form into signing this policy without believing it would ever actually be sent to the insurance company, which is why she never told anybody, including her own mother and her own sisters, who she was very close with. >> but the lead detective told the insurance company pam was not a suspect, and so the company cut her the check. >> the husband always does it, so of course this is the guy who did it and i think that clouded their judgment and their investigation. it's the only explanation in my eyes to explain what i consider to be a horribly deficient investigation. >> plus, later that same lead detective was preparing pam to testify at russ' trial and warned her the defense would certainly bring up the issue. >> one of the concerns that i have is, again, like i said, the defense raising doubt with you just because you're one of the last people to see betsy. you get this money given to you. >> after all, said the detective, pam did benefit from betsy's death to the tune of $150,000. >> they're going to suggest that you may have had something to do with the planning or the conspiracy to commit that murder because of your financial windfall. >> and not only that -- >> what you're originally telling investigators is that you did this to try to get the kids taken care of because she's afraid russ will go through it. however, you have this money and you haven't turned any money over to the family or the kids? >> that's correct. >> that's a huge problem. >> to make it look like less of a problem she should set up a trust for betsy's daughters and soon. >> it helps if -- >> it will. i told you that the first phone kauchl. >> then the detective prepared pam for the key questions he thought the defense would ask. >> did you have anything to do with betsy's murder? >> no, absolutely not. >> that's exactly what's going to be asked of you. >> in open court but outside the presence of her, attorney schwartz told the judge that indeed he did plan to ask pam hupp about all those things when she took the stand. but the judge said no. he could not ask about any of that because, said the judge, there was no direct connection between pam and the murder. >> in the 25 years i've been practicing law, i have never -- a witness testifies, you can cross-examine the witness. that's a basic tenet of law, their bias, their interest, the fact that they are the last person with the victim, the fact that they just recently were given the victim's insurance under who knows what pretenses. the fact that they lied about going in the house, the fact that they lied about where they were when they called the victim after being in the house, and i couldn't get into any of that. i have never seen anything like it. >> both pam hupp and the detective declined "dateline" request for an interview. in any case, the case against russell faria wasn't over. the allegations still to come. russ had helpers as he set about killing his wife. >> coming up, russ is stunned when the prosecution disputes his alibi. >> i have four credible people that i was with all evening and you might get one person to lie for you, you might even convince two. >> but four? what will the jury think? >> russ faria's defense attorney precluded from presenting any evidence to the jury about pam hupp's inconsistencies and insurance wind of fall made his last best case that his client was an innocent man. russ wasn't pretending to be grieving when he made that 911 call, said joel schwartz, he was grieving. >> he sounded like a man who was grieving and his wife was dead, however he was doing his best to answer the questions when asked in order to help the 911 operator help the police solve this. >> and russ told the police he thought it was suicide because that's what it looked like when he walked into the house and found her there. >> her wrist was slit deeply and the knife was in her neck. although there was 56 wounds, those were the only two visible to the naked eye. her shirt, her pants covered every other stab wound and those weren't visible to see. i think the person calling this ins is a suicide is not somebody who did this but who had no idea. >> this is not the result of a wild stabbing, rather they appeared to be methodically and deliberately made after betsy was dead to make it look like a crime of passion. >> there's no other explanation for the lack of blood and no other explanation for the deep cut on her wrist that's post mortem. >> and the blood evidence on russ' slipper. >> there's no imprint of a shoe in the blood, nor was there any footprint on the tile floor l d leading back to where the slippers were found. >> so how would the blood get on the shoes? >> somebody attempted to stage this. >> dipped it in the blood? >> dipped it in the blood and hid those back in the closet. >> as for the prosecution's accusation that russ had sex with betsy before killing her -- >> without getting too graphic, there were eight sperm cell found up side her during the autopsy the next day. >> totally consistent with what russ told the police, that is intimacy two days before the murder. and besides all of that said the defense, given russ' alibi, there's simply no way he could have committed the crime. but the state wasn't quite finished with its case against russ faria. the prosecutor declined our request for an interview. in her closing argument she presented a theory of how the crime occurred. making claims for which she did not present evidence at trial. and those claims were big. the alibi, she told the jurors was all a setup for the precise intention of hiding a murder and that russ' game night friends were in deep, co-conspirators who helped russ hatch the murder plan, waited for the right night to carry it out and michelle knight a-- an accusat n accusation -- >> we're innocent people. there is absolutely no evidence that we did anything wrong that night, there never will be because it didn't happen. >> and despite what the prosecutor argued, neither mike corbin nor any of the others have ever been charged with conspiracy nor have they been connected in any way to betsy's murder. so according to the prosecutor, how did russ do it without getting a single drop of blood on the clothes he wore all that evening and that night when he talked to detectives afterwards? here's how, said the prosecutor to the jury. first, knowing what he intended to do, russ ran errands so he would appear in front of those surveillance cameras. then drove to his friend's house and dropped off his cell phone so it would ping there all evening. then he drove the half hour home, stripped naked, had sex with betsy, stabbed her more than 50 times, showered, put on his slippers, began to slip on the blood but caught himself and stopped, took those slippers off. then he cleaned up the house, got dressed again and one of the game night friends drove his phone back to his house picking up an orby's receipt on the way and then russ called 911 and quickly tossed his slippers into the closet. and what did russ think of all that? >> i thought she was making up some kind of cockamamy story. i had four credible people that i was with all evening. i don't know anybody that would lie for anybody when it comes to a crime like that. you know, i wouldn't. not for my best friend, not for my mom. >> the more important question of course was what the jurors would think. they deliberated for 4 1/2 hours before arriving at a verdict. and when you heard it? >> relief. huge relief. >> guilty. guilty of first-degree murder. >> it was devastating, but i was trying my best to hold it together because my family's behind me there and i can hear them crying. >> how would people get the idea that you were, in fact, capable of this? >> i don't know. i previously had had a temper, but i never touched betsy in any way. they wanted to blame somebody and the police were telling them that it was me. >> russell faria was sentenced to life in prison. he's filing an appeal. and sits in his cell now unable to do much of anything but say -- >> i can't imagine ever being mad enough to do anything like that to anybody, let alone my wife whom i loved. i never stopped loving my wife. i'm innocent of this. i did not kill her. >> betsy's family though was and remain convinced justice was done no matter what anybody says. if somebody were to come to you with evidence, strong evidence that it wasn't russ but it was some other person, is that something that you could accept? >> i would still feel it's russ, 100%. >> as for pam hupp, she insisted to "dateline" she had no involvement in the murder. she said she had no motive to kill betsy. her dna wasn't found at the house and she cooperated with the police. pam also said she set up a trust for betsy's daughters. the family said it did not receive any insurance money. and, meanwhile, the answer to the mystery, who killed betsy, still for some hangs in the air. resolved by a jury, and yet, does anyone really know? >> that's all for now. i'm lester holt. thanks for joining us. some hidden messages, maybe some political insight on 2016 from president obama on washington's big night of the year, the correspondents' dinner. >> what a year, huh? i usually start these dinners with a few self-deprecating jokes. after my stellar 2013, what could i possibly talk about? >> we'll have some political talk and comic review this morning and a surprise guest will join our round table. grammy award winner, innovator and social activist will.i.am will be here. plus, the conversation continues about racism and sports after the controversy surrounding donald sterling, i'll speak exclusively with a former nba call star who played a big role in the punishment, sacramento mayor kevin

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really about human empathy. funding a way to be empathetic with a foreign culture often in a very dangerous neighborhood and it's just fabulous at this. he could sit down and smoke a hukah pipe and he could sit down and as one of my sources said sometimes in this business you have to sup with the devil but use a long spoon, terrorists and dangerous men he did with a very short spoon and we got to know him. >> we end with jessye norman, the great opera star. >> certainly 200 years after the french revolution and then to sing on the concord and to be choreographed to walk around and down the steps. all of this was completely live. i was singing live, i wasn't singing to a track. >> robin wright, les gelb, kai bird, jessye norman when we continue. >> there's a saying around here: you stand behind what you say. around here, we don't make excuses, we make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up and make it right. some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most. but i know you'll still find it, when you know where to look. additional funding provided by: captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: we begin this evening with the escalating crises with iraq. last week the militant group es lambic state of sierra known as isis capture of two of iraq's important cities. yesterday the insurgency seeks a city which lies to the west. in addition graphic images emerged of masked and continued its march toward baghdad. >> joining me is robin wright and les gelb. i am pleased to have both of them on this program. i begin with you robin since you were in iraq recently, a month or so ago. tell me what you think is going on or what happened to cause this to move so rapidly. there was a story in the times over the weekend, long planned and carefully thought out. but go ahead. >> well, this is the greatest threat we've had in the last quarter century from the jihadis, they are well organized, well disciplined, well financed and well trained. they have a game plan and i think they surprised the outside world largely because of the timing. the swift headway they made through north western iraq. i think we've always known for the last two and-a-half years anyway this could happen, they could penetrate iraq and that the state of iraq was actually under threat. i don't think anyone understood just how fashion it might happen. in all the threats we faced in iraq, again the last 25 years since iraq's invasion of kuwait with the 2003 u.s. intervention in iraq that this is in many ways the most complex in terms of finding a solution, the most devastating in terms of its impact. this is a threat not just to the survival of the iraqi state and whether it disintegrates into two or three parts. it's also a challenge to the entire configuration of the middle east defined a century ago. and it is clearly the deepest and broadest jihadi threat globally any time since islam emerged since a modern political or military threat. >> rose: we'll come back to some of those points. sitting here with me is les gelb who would like to remind me and many others he came on this program a number of times along with joe biden and they co-authored a piece together suggesting what was needed in iraq was some kind of federation. having said that here's a problem in search of the solution. what's the solution. >> the solution is much harder now even if one were possible when i suggested it to take account of the fact that iraq was a flawed diverse state with sunni's and shiites and you could keep them together if they could run their own affairs within. >> rose: kind of a strong man. >> or the turfs before then. with all this gone you have almost a permanence of a war. >> rose: what is the united states to do? >> well, they're wondering the same thing. they haven't come up with a solution. the white how is watching this program, charlie. they're mainly thinking as they usually do in terms of people. can we live with maliki, can we get maliki to do what he didn't before. if we want to get rid of him how do we do that. who else could take his place. they're fixated on questions like that. but they have said a policy framework that isn't bad which is we are not going to shoot a bullet until the iraqi government in baghdad shows that it is offer a political approach that could gain support. only thing and we think we're right that the iraqi army will fight instead of run away and that the country might, might possibly be united in a federal system as its constitution allows. >> rose: is there place for the u.s. and iran to capital here even if it would mean to our sunni friends that we are in bed with their hated enemy iran. >> well the secretary of state has said the united states will consult with iran and that's playing out or beginning to play out in vienna today with the talks between the united states and iran in the context of the nuclear agreement. so that's the beginning of a process. but the pentagon has also pointed out something that's very different and that's the issue of coordination. will there be military coordination with iran. i think there's a difference between consultation and coordination. we're not heading toward a scenario at least so far that looks like the united states for example might provide drone cover as revolutionary guards involve themselves on the ground on behalf of the iraqi army. or maybe in place of the iraqi army. i don't think we're headed in that direction yet. but it is clear that for the first time iran and the united states share common cause and they are both concerned because their strategies have jointly failed. both of them in different degrees in different ways supporting the government of prime minister maliki. this has been in place for, you know, almost ten years. and neither side has been able to convince the prime minister to engage with all parties on the ground. and it will take both washington and the united states to help salvage. neither country can do it alone. this is a pivotal moment, a confluences of factors that could actually facilitate even the nuclear talks. this is changing the dynamics. >> rose: les. >> charlie i think that secretary state kerry and his iranian counterparts are talkig about this and doing it with political support here at home. senator lindsay graham even supported the notion to work with the iranians as long as the iranians say they won't do anything bad. i think we will end up working in iran. >> rose: in which way as robin points out it's not a coordinated situation but something else. >> the first thinking is if we can get the government in baghdad a political proposal that will begin to unite the people again. without that nothing will work. is there any chance of some military coordination. i would say if some of the worst fears about the jihadis coming south to baghdad turn out to be true, we might have some military coordination. we're not going to put anybody in on the ground. and the iranians might put commandos or others in on the ground and while we may not like it, i think we prefer it to a jihadi take over. it's the same thing in syria, charlie. of course we want it thought out. it's a bad guy but who is the bigger thread assad or the jihadis. it's the jihadis. you have to worry about who is more. >> rose: they get closer and closer to baghdad. what do we do then if they're within a day of baghdad. >> well first of all i don't think that's going to happen. i think that there are very few organized jihadi forces. the truth of the matter is our c.i.a. doesn't even know ten 10,000 how many they have there. and it's not a lot. and the iraqi forces are now organizing%emñ'd i think iraq wl be safe from many regular attack. there will be bombings and terrorists but not an organized attack. so there will be an opportunity for the iraqi government to get organized. >> rose: all right. robin a couple questions about, one -- three questions in fact. what is their objective here of isis number one and who are the other sunni countries very much have reason to fear islamists like these radical extremists. where are they. and three, what kind of relationship do they have with the elements that in some cases are now supporting the extremists. >> well isis really wants to create a broad islamic state modeled on their faith centuries ago. it wants the rigid implementation of islamic law in its purest or earliest form, most draconian form, one of which many muslims today actually reject. but it wants to do that across borders and you saw first of all in syria and now in iraq and i think the real danger is the creation of this sunni state that spans the border between syria and iraq has already disappeared. in terms of what role do the play, the real problem is there are elements reportedly inside arabia and elsewhere among the oil rich gulf states. private individuals who are supporting a lot of the isis leaders. they've provided reportedly tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars or military equipment and that's really dangerous. this is not the official position of many of our gulf allies. and there's a split. this is where we see, we talk very kind of simplistically about a sectarian divide between sunni and shiite. there's a divide in the sunni world in general or even the islamic world in general those who are looking for extremists core and others who are looking for more moderation, they want a 21st century state. there's a lot of diversity within the islamic world and in this question a lot of differences. in some cases you find because of that sectarian divide shiites and sunni, that's pushing a lot of sunnies more into their sunni identity and that's where we're not yet at the point we're into a sectarian war but boy are we headed there fast. >> rose: what impact will rise in these extremists coming towards baghdad. >> it will work. he is the most influention shiite figure in iraq and maybe worldwide. so i think you will get militias standing up and being willing to fight. let me come back to the point you were asking robin about hour friends in the gulf. because they've been doing us a great deal of damage now the government officially don't support arming the jihadis but there are plenty religious leaders in our friendly gulf states that's been supporting them in syria and now in iraq. and the united states, are in order to help calm the situation is going to have to crack down on them too.1athey look to us fr security and yet they're undermining the basis of american power and interests throughout the middle east. >> rose: crack down on the people giving the money. >> yes, crack down on the people giving money. because the saudi people they know who is giving the money. >> rose: robin what's the time frame for this. give me a sense how urgent it is and suppose it all goes bad. are we looking at a conflict between sunni and shi'a that was precede throughout the middle east. >> ultimately that's the greatest dilemma for the obama administration. does it get sucked into a conflict that actually becomes sectarian and involves drawing us into a division or a chasm that has been around for 1400 years. i mean that's one thing that we need to be very careful about that we don't get involved. i lived in beirut for the five years of the civilsectarian conr struggle over the definition of a modern state can endure far longer than we want. do we have to make a decision tonight or the next week over what we do. we need to be so careful in this one. the fact is that our involvement in 1990 and 91 was militarily decisive within six weeks. we got saddam hussein out of little kuwait. in 2003 we got hussein out of baghdad within three weeks. they were military victories but ultimately political procedures. we have to make[ñ sure as les d a political success, making sure there's a viable government representing all iraqi interests. >> rose: is this a failure of obama foreign policy. >> the obama team didn't do a great job but it was facing enormous -- >> rose: syria first or because ending without troops in iraq when they left, or both. >> well i don't think leaving iraq was the basis of this and even if we had ten or 10,000 troops in iraq. i think the political problems underneath. >> rose: did we lose influence with maliki's government -- >> bush was trying to get the agreement on status of forces too. he didn't succeed so i don't think you can lay this at obama's doorstep. i think that's totally unfair. the real issue now, charlie, and even if job does everything right, it's going to be hard. but the real issue now is can we put together a coherent strategy to deal with therobin has descre puts0throughout the middle east. you can't do it with iraq alone. it's an iraq and syria problem. it's a problem of the business people and the religious leaders and the gulf financing the jihadis against our interests. you have to pull all these pieces together and decide what's the problem we have to deal with first. >> rose: who is going to put all the pieces together. >> it's up to the united states because if the united states doesn't do it, it doesn't get done. >> rose: this is what ron crosswalker said yesterday. we need the secretary of state in baghdad right now. we need the president on the phone to iraqi leadership because the reality is the iraqis are not in a position, they were not in a position when i was there, they're not in a position now to work out hard compromises on their in. that's what you said, john kerry, get to baghdad and be the person working now. >> but then you need the overall problem because this isn't just iraq, it's syria. and it isn't just iraq and syria it's the middle east. it's an opportunity to work with the iranians to solve the larger strategic threat, which is right now the jihadis threatening both syria and iraq. and we've got to put this whole bag together for it to work. you can't just solve the problem in baghdad. >> rose: what happened to all the effort that we poured into training the iraqi army. >> charlie, this happens time and again. we poured all that effort into training, arming and equipping the south vietnamese army. when we left, the north vietnamese attacked, the south vietnamese army folded. we've done ten years worth of training, equipping and fightig alongside the afghan army and we do have to hurry when we pull out they're going to collapse as well and the taliban will do there what the jihadis are doing in iraq today. so it isn't the united states that can solve these problems. as long as we're there, fighting their war, they're always going to rely on us and never develop the resilience to deal with the problems on their own when we leave. >> rose: and the motivation. >> yes. >> rose: thank you less less. good to see you. thank you robin. we'll be back. stay with us. >> rose: kai bird is here a pulitzer prize winning author and columnist, a good called the good spy. it take the look at the life and death of robert aims one of the c.i.a.'s most legendary and unusual agents. aims was killed tragically in the 1983 bombing of the u.s. embassy in beirut. had he lived, robert aims may have heaped heal the receive between the arabs and the west. robert bear called the good spy the best book he's ever read on espionage. i'm glad to have kai bird back at this table. welcome. >> thank you charlie. >> rose: tell me the obvious, tell me who robert aims was. >> he was a veteran c.i.a. officer who rose to become mr. middle east, a briefer of ronald reagan but he started out as a clandestine c.i.a. officer in 1960, mentor by the legendary cia director richard hems. he specialized in the middle east, became a fabulous arabic language speaker. and he was, the title the good spy is apt because he was actually a very good decent man but he was also very good at his work. >> rose: why was he good at his work? >> human intelligence, it turns out, the art of spy craft is really about human empathy. finding a way to be empathetic with a foreign culture often in a very dangerous neighborhood. and aims was just fabulous at this. he could sit down and smoker a hookah pipe with star keepers and he could sit down as one of my sources said sometimes in this business, you have to sup with the devil. but you use a very long spoon. well aims supped with the devil often. terrorists, dangerous men but he did it with a very short spoon. he got to know them. >> rose: you tell the story he made a trip to see yasser arafat which would have been against the pia rules. he didn't tell them. >> exactly. >> rose: and then he wrote his wife and described it. >> it's incredible but this is one of the reasons i was able to do this back in such a closely biographical fashion i found these letters and his widow graciously gave them to me. and he had about 150 pages of handwritten letters. in one of them, you're quite right. he describedvarafat's intelliged much more. and the fact aims had supped with the devil, he got very close to, he cultivated initially as recruitment but he realized that the man with a not recruitable. >> rose: you could not buy him. >> couldn't buy him. so he turned -- >> rose: he tried. >> they trade. aims' superiors tried and failed. but one day solame took bob aims into one of the refugee camps and unannounced introduced him to arafat. this is a time when henry kissinger had promised the israelis and said we would never talk to the members of the plo, palestinian liberation association. it was a terrorists association, we wouldn't have any dealings with them. but of course when aims started this relationship in 1969, very early, with solame, kissinger knew about it. not immediately, but aims told his boss and helms encouraged him to do it because that's what intelligence officers do. they go where foreign intelligence officers can't do. >> rose: tell me about solame because that's crucial to the book. >> it's a fascinating story. these are two men who are complete opposites. aims was the son of a steel worker from philadelphia, not blue bud. he was the son of a steel worker from philadelphia, all american literally basketball player. tall, six foot three, handsome, through eyes, hazel blue eyes and blond and just strikingly hand some. he favored cowboy boots and tinted glasses. walking down the street of beirut, he stuck out like an american. he was a good husband, a good father to his six children. he would have a drink occasionally but he didn't like to drink. he got criticized inside by his own colleagues in the c.i.a. he said well if you don't drink alcohol, how can you recruit agents. but some lame was the exact opposite. >> rose: before you go to solame, what was true about aims in the beginning of his career, there was some argument against him because they said he's too intellectual. >> exactly. you know, again, he came from la salle college, not harvard or yale or berkley. >> rose: that's the other side they're saying he's too intellectual. >> but he loved books and apparently when you walk into his apartment in beirut, it would be cluttered with books, history books about the middle east. he favored history books and biographies, read very few novels. the exception was la carre. >> rose: tell me about solame. >> he was about 27 years old, he was arafat's body guard and intelligence chief and pretty smart political operative. he favored black clothes. and gold chain and his shirt unbuttoned to show his hair chest. he loved fast cars and good red wines. he was a muslim but he favors good red wine and he loved beautiful women. and he was married to a lovely palestinian woman and had two kids but he fell in love and acquired a mistress and then a second wife the form of georgeiana. he fell in love with ms. universe and aims had to at one point, again they were total opposite but they respected each other. they formed a working professional relationship. so when solame acquired this other woman, aims didn't approve of. solame was about to marry her and he said bob george gina would like to vite america and would like to go to disneyland and aims arranged it. they sent him to hawaii for a short vacation and your liens -- new orleans where there was a large meeting of officers to a brief and debrief some lame. >> rose: solame was a bad guy too. >> he wore a gun. he wore a pistol in his belt. aims had to do that too but he hated guns. he was no james bond and that tort of stereo fashion. but solame carried a gun and he was involved with black september. >> rose: when did you develop a relationship with mrs. aims? >> well, one of the reasons i got on to this story was that as a young man when i was a boy 11, 12, 13, i was aims next door neighborhood. my father was posted and this is where aims was first posted a broad. and he was our next door neighbor on this very small wind-swift desert compound. so i had vivid memories of him and his lovely blue-eyed blond wife. >> rose: you write about him that this is what you say. the point was to influence the course of history to create a better world. he believed he wanted the intelligence to persuade the policy makers to make good decisions but by the summer of 1978 he felt that american pause in the middle east had run into a dead end. >> yes. he became very frustrated. this is a typical story as i learned from sort of the clandestine wing of the c.i.a. you come into the agency and you're excited by the secrets that you're exposed to. >> rose: you know things. >> you know things other people don't know and you think that that's going to help you to change the world. aims is very idealistic in this way. and you think as a young officer that you're going to be able to influence the policy makers, the politicians who actually run foreign policy, if they just know what i know. but after, well, after 18 years in the agency, aims was becoming little more cynical, much more skeptical. >> rose: but he thought he could use hills relationship with solame to influence arafat and make them less radical and more willing to engage and pursue a two-state solution. >> exactly. i argue in the book that this is what happened. over the course of their ten-year relationship from 69 to 79, you know. it was a two-way street. solame was trying to draw aims in and through aims get the u.s. government to deal with the plo. simultaneously, aims was trying to draw solame and influence him and his boss arafat into being more realistic about palestinian aspirations and to think of laying down the gun and to start talkint ly to the americans but eventually to the israelis about a compromise, a political compromise. what we would call today a two-state solution. i argue he was successful, if you look at the progression of palestinian narrative in the 70's. they got closer and closer to doing this. and this led not directly but it planted the seeds of oslo. >> rose: the ma ssad as i suggested earlier had solame on a hit list. >> very early on. >> rose: they wanted him because of other things that they felt like he had been complacent in. >> wellmassad tried to kill hima letter bomb as earlyaa3j as 1971 before munich. and aims actually warned solame not to open this mail at his home. that saved his life at least once. >> rose: did the israelis know that. >> eventually they did. >> rose: that he warned him. >> yes. >> rose: not to be opening mail. >> yes. in 1978 one of the officers approached one of aims' bosses at a conference in london and asked, is solame your man. has he been recruited. >> rose: if he is we will not assassinate would be the implicit understanding. >> well he wasn't a recruited agent so this c.i.a. officer turned on his heels without giving an answer but this precipitated a hot debate at langley and c.i.a. head quarters about what to do. what do we tell the israelis. aims learned about the debate. by this time he was out of the clandestine service and director of the intelligence doing analysis. but he heard what was going on and he again warned solame you have to be careful. and he actually shipped him encrypted communications equipment trying to beef up his security. >> rose: there's also ssgari. >> he was a young intelligence officer in the revolution guard corps right after the revolution in 79 who fought first in kurdistan and then was shipped to lebanon in the wake of the israeli invasion in the summer of 82. and he was one of the, i report he was one of the iranian intelligence officers who stayed behind after his youth was transferred back to iran later in 82, 83. and i have sources saying he was the intelligence officer on the ground for the iranians who put together the truck bomb attacks. not only on the u.s. embassiy that killed aims on april 18th, 1983 and 16 other americans and wiped out the whole c.i.a. station, eight c.i.a. officers. most americans will remember much better that happened six months later on the marine barracks. >> rose: when reagan said get out of iraq, i mean lebanon. >> his story too is fast noting because he had a long career in iran, rose very high up and became deputy defense minutity asgari did. >> rose: under a moderate president. >> under a moderate president. and then had a falling out ahmadinejad in in 2007 he defected. left iran on a business trip supposedly to syria and then disappeared across the border into turkey. and it's a mystery about where he is today. but i report that he was debriefed in washington d.c. in a c.i.a. safe house and he came with a laptop filled with intelligence about intelligence and hezbollah. this is dealing with bad guys. >> rose: you think he's somewhere in the united states today. >> i think he's somewhere in the united states or somewhere under an alias and protection in europe. >> rose: so he delivered for the united states so they decided to give him witness protection. >> apparently this is what happenedxw) yes. without a doubt he defected. and he's somewhere but we don't know where. >> rose: what happened to aims? >> well, aims, you know, after his contact in the plo, solame was killed, he was devastated by this. he thought this was a big mistake by the c.i.a. >> rose: how did he learn. >> he was in langley one day and got the news. i described an eye witness watching him get the news and he became ashen and he was clearly shocked. >> rose: but he knew that the massad was after them. >> he knew, he hoping solame would survived. >> rose: it was a car bombing. >> yes. then aims switched to the analytical side of the agency and was promoted rapidly. by 82, he was the guy who was briefing ronald reagan in the whitehouse on anything to do with the middle east. he's the guy who persuaded. >> rose: he would brief the president. >> in the oval office and in camp david during the summer of 82 that crises summer -- >> rose: part of that was because of casey. >> he was close to casey. casey understood that aims was not only a great clandestine officer but a great briefer. >> rose: and casey liked >> he did. >> rose: he gave access to reagan and explained things to reagan. >> yes. and aims became the guy who persuaded reagan to sign on to the reagan peace initiative of september 1st, 82. which was the first sort of u.s. initiative that thrust the u.s. government into the midst of the israeli palestinian conflicker and said all right, you guys can't agree what to do. here's our american plan. and it was a step forward, i argue, but it never went anywhere. >> rose: you of he was finally killed. >> he happened to go back to beirut on april 17th, a sunday. the next day he walked into the u.s. embassy and a few hours later this truck bomb rolled in with 2000 pounds of plastic explosives. >> rose: 16 people died. >> -- lebanonese died. >> rose: who did that. >> i argued that was the iranian revolutionary corps and this guy asgari. >> rose: he was the master mind behind it. >> else on the ground master mind. >> rose: the operations on the ground. >> this was state terrorism. it wasn't an operation by suicide bombers. >> rose: you also argue because of some mistakes that hezbollah got empowered in lebanon. >> yes. this is the beginning of hezbollah. in 1983, hezbollah didn't really exist but there was a shadowy break off group that formed0rigf september 82. and this really precipitated the formation of hezbollah as a political force representing the shiites of southern lebanon and beirut. >> rose: why do we love the intrigue of the middle east so much. >> well as the israelis constantly tell us, it's a neighborhood filled with a complex mosaic of cultures and religion. aims fell in love with the middle east even though it was a difficult place to work. >> rose: he wanted to learn. >> he wanted to learn. >> rose: he studied. >> he studied arabic, he could joke in the language, he could read the literature, he could read the newspaper and carry on a political conversation. this is very rare i have to say for an intelligence officer. even today there are very few c.i.a. officers who can do what he did back in the 80's. >> rose: the book is called the good spy, the life and death of robert aims by kai bird. back in a moment, stay with us. >> jessye norman is here and we can be happy about that. the aimed opera star's written a book called stand up straight and sing. her memoirs share a story growing up in georgia performing in the world's greatest opera houses. i'm happy to have you back at the table. >> thank you. >> rose: tell me about that stand up and sing. >> that's what my mother used to say when i was seven or eight years old in brownies or something and getting ready to perform. she would stand up straight. >> rose: did she have the most influence on you. >> so many people that have influences, still have influence on me, especially my parents but my grandparents my aunts uncles, the next door neighborhood. the ladies across the street. >> rose: when did you know you had a voice that recommended itself. >> well, since i've been singing, since i've been speaking, i always say i have no recollection of never being singing. never being a singer. i have no recollection of that. so i was always willing to do it and wanting to do it. and it helps to say i was a bit of a ham. in fact i rather enjoy it. >> rose: did it start in the church. >> it started at home and then in the church and then in the schools and then in community organizations. but certainly my first performance was in my own living room. >> rose: many people have had conversations with you including me a number of times. but why write this? was there part of your two you felt like we didn't know. >> part of my story that certainly was not known and only i can talk about my relationship to my family. and talking about growing up in the segregated south and overcoming that. at the same time that i was growing up, i wasn't lumbered with this. this wasn't a cross i was bearing as a child because i grew up in a loving wonderful community. in a kind of cocoon if you will. this was an incredibly supportive thing. of course at the time one doesn't realize it when you're growing up. you don't understand that people are growing up in different way. but having loving parents and people in their community that are as interested in you as they can possibly be. the woman across the street wants to know what your report card looks like. >> rose: and to communicate to you that you can do anything you want. >> absolutely. that you might have to work at it harder than should be reasonable but you can do it and that you must do it, absolutely. >> rose: you mentioned the segregated south and your parents. they gave you protection and confidence. >> yes. and experience and talking to. i mean, it was not an unusual thing at all for my father and mother to come and sit us down in the living room and talk to us about the day's problems or something that had been on television for montgomery or thelma or somewhere. and for us to understand it, and to know that this was, we were a part of the struggle as well. even as young children. and that we needed to understand that. and to surmount that. >> rose: so when did you leave agusta. >> i left agusta at age 17 to go to howard university as a freshman there. that was a good place to go, it certainly was a good place to go. it turns out charlie that i was actually admitted to howard university the year before that. i was only 16 years old and had not completed high school. >> rose: you got early admission. >> well i had early admission because!kúr happened upon howard university coming back from having performed in the mary anderson competition when i was 15 getting to be 16. and stopped in washington on the way back from philadelphia on the way to agusta on the train with my choir director rosa sanders. we went to howard university unannounced and the dean of music at the time has been dean in agusta when rosa was a student. called him up said we were in town. we went over to the university and it was a school day, it was a friday and he invited us to come up to meet the voice department, the voice department head and it was carolyn granted. she asked me to sing and at 15 or 16 you can sing at a drop of a hat. i sang for her. she was teaching a class in pedagogue at the time. we waited outside her class until she was done. she said i like very much what i heard. she celled how old you. i said i'm 15 nearly 16. she said are you doing well in school. i said yes i'm on the honor's list you know. she said your high school transcript have to bear that how the and she said after you finish high school i would like to teach you. >> rose: was she a wonderful teacher. >> by the time i got to her charlie, she had been teaching voice for 45 years. there wasn't anything about the voice or vocal production or one's own physiology that she doesn't know and she couldn't explain. it was really, it was wonderful. >> rose: what have you learned about your voice over the years. >> i've learned about my voice to take care of it. that it needs rest as much as it needs exercise. and that i have to respect the fact that i mustn't sit thinking i'll be all right because that is very dangerous. i can't be around people that are coughing. one has to take one's physical body and one is taken care of one's voice. >> rose: there's a chapter called this on my journey now, growing up in germany. >> growing up in germany. i really, i feel that i grew up in germany because my whole horizon of what the world was like changed. going from the segregated south having gone to university to the conservatory to the university of michigan and now i was living in a divided country and a divided city. and it was the irony. >> rose: berlin. >> berlin. there i was never having been on the professional stage as an opera singer ever and making my debut a quintessential character in a germany opera house. i was like a sponge. i was soaking up everything that was happening. whether it was the theatre across the street, whether they were doing shakespeare in german to such a level it hadn't been written in german to begin with. >> rose: you had to develop an appetite to know the world. >> develop an appetite to understand the whole world and understand how different it was. and people living under an oppression that would have crushed the soul had they allowed it to. but they didn't allow it to. they went to their museum, they went to concerts. even though it was what we called the iron curtain. their spirits were flying high and this was a lesson to me, truly was. >> rose: way before you knew me, i was in paris. i think i've told you this story. >> tell me. >> rose: i was in paris and you sang and you came down that sort of whatever it was stairway. >> yes. >> rose: and sang. first, why did they choose you? >> well, i think -- >> rose: who chose you. >> president mitterand. he chose me -- the flag of france and he wanted to extend that to include all of us and not just the french. not on the day that they were celebrating the bicentennial of the french revolution. and of course i was extremely honored to be chosen. >> rose: look at that jiecialghts and -- >> and i did it. >> rose: eventually watching you, i was just taken. it's like, you know. and i would be sitting across the table many times after that. >> yes. >> rose: here is a tape that day and that evening. here it is. >> rose: how is that in your memory bank. >> it's at the front of my memory bank. there were hundreds of thousands of people in the street, as you well remember that evening. and i probably should say over the last 20 years i think i have met everybody. i think have it, indeed. it's just been incredible. >> rose: it was so memorable. >> it was so memorable. and so memorable for so many reasons. i mean, certainly the 20 0 years after the french revolution and then to sing on the concord and around the obelisk. i was sing live not to a track. i was sort of disjointed a bit from the chorus because the conductor could see me but i couldn't see anybody i had to rely on what i was hearing. i still remember in my body thinking okay you studied these texts, you know these words as well as you know your own name. just get on with it, just do it. >> rose: who choose the outfit. >> the outfit, that was designed by alaya and he had been chosen by john paul who was the person in charge. and so it was decided by the ministry by the president that i should wear something that resembled the french flag and that is what he came up. and it certainly resembles the french flag. >> rose: other than that, tell me about great moments on the stage. >> great moments on stage, my goodness. i would have to count the first time i ever sang in carnegie hall and i had only been singing about four years or something, maybe less than that. and then of course the opening night of the 100 night of the opera was my debut. >> rose: what did you. >> later on i sung cassandra -- both those characters on the same night. that was quite a workout. >> rose: are there performances or operas or compositions that you think jessye norman owns this, i don't dare say that. i can only say there are things that i sing that other people want me to sing a lot. like before last songs of strauss or this one person opera that i do, which is the waiting. or another one person opera i do which is the play that was turned into an opera by francis pulang. this is something i doively from other singers so i get asked to do these things very often. >> rose: anybody really you wanted to work with and for whatever reason, schedules or chance did not happen. >> i'm sure that is true. i would have to think hard. but i'm certainly that there would have been people. i would have liked to have had the opportunity to work more with a conductor with whom i had the great privilege of working when i first started singing. and that was rudolph. and i learned so much from that man in such a short period. and i was very sorry that we didn't work more because it was really marvelous. i did songs with him and i learned so much about singing and portraying deep thoughts within a song. and allowing the audience to feel that and not to get caught up in the emotion of one self. and that was something that was important to learn very early and i wish we sort of had the chance to go on. >> rose: is there a film based on you in paris, what's it called diva. >> it's called diva, starring willhemia hernandez. >> rose: did they talk to you about that film. >> they did talk to me to be accurate about the young man portrayed there who did exist. his name was alar and he really did work for the post office delivering telegrams. remember telegrams. >> rose: yes, i did. one of the interesting things having the life you led the profession that chose you, it's a global thing. >> it is a global thing. >> rose: and therefore it's a thing that also you get to meet almost everyone. >> and it is wonderful and it is marvelous to see that it truly does transcend our border because you can find a person that is working as a cashier -- and that's like hearing the president of austria saying it's wonderful. >> rose: and you are too. >> thank you. >> rose: the book is called stand up straight and sing. >> stand up straight and sing. >> rose: good to see you. >> thank you. >> rose: thank you for joining us. see you next time. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org this is nightly business report with tyler mathisen and suzie guerin. >> greener pastures. metronic becomes the latest company to spend a lot of money for a better corporate tax rate buying covidion. >> global hotspots as investors watch what's happening in iraq. there are a number of high risk 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