i said why would you do that? because i wanted everything to be secret. i did not want my own wife to know about this. i didn t want melania to know about this. that s what he said. he said if he had taken $130,000 out of one of his accounts, he wife would have been pumping him for information. that s important. but there s other stuff that day that 7 more important. sean: what is that? would you like me to go on? sean: yes, sir. besides that once he told us that he was suicidal and he needed an escape hatch, he said can i get i need to know what my options are. can i get a pardon, commutation? i told him a pardon and commutation were out of the question. he wasn t charged with a crime. let s talk about cooperation. michael, your a bump in the road to the u.s. attorney s office. they re clearly going after
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i said why would you do that? because i wanted everything to be secret. i did not want my own wife to know about this. i didn t want melania to know about this. that s what he said. he said if he had taken $130,000 out of one of his accounts, he wife would have been pumping him for information. that s important. but there s other stuff that day that 7 more important. sean: what is that? would you like me to go on? sean: yes, sir. besides that once he told us that he was suicidal and he needed an escape hatch, he said can i get i need to know what my options are. can i get a pardon, commutation? i told him a pardon and commutation were out of the question. he wasn t charged with a crime. let s talk about cooperation. michael, your a bump in the road to the u.s. attorney s office. they re clearly going after
donald trump. you re standing in the way and they re willing to roll over you in order to make you decide that you have to flip, you have to cooperate with the government in order to save yourself. i explained what cooperation was. you can cooperate and give them a little if you don t have important information hand that means your sentence will be reduced or if you have something big and it was clear that the government wanted donald trump, then you would get a nonprosecution agreement. i explained, that s a hell of a lot better deal than killing yourself, a nonprosecution agreement gets you out from under your legal troubles. i have to ask you, do you have anything on donald trump? he said no. i said michael, think about this. don t answer it quickly. you said that you were up on the roof ready to jump and i m telling you there s a way out of this if you have information. it has to be true.
nobody thought that trump could win. access hollywood came out october 7. we had women every other day coming out saying this, that and the other. i can t tell you their names. they re on anderson cooper s show a lot. nothing came of that. the island that somebody would need to pay a porn person to win the election, i was thinking of one woman, i testified to, in november of 2016. her name was not stormy daniels. it was hillary clinton. michael cohen never told me that he was using money to pay this person. he likes to speak in code. i saw an interview recently where he said donald trump. he always speaks in code. we understand each other. that doesn t work. you can t build a case that way. i always had a good relationship with michael. sorry to hear that he was suicidal. let me say this sean: i hate to interrupt you. we re going to carry you in to the next segment. we have plenty of time