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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:59:00

Apparently. it s not something that he is interested at in this juncture. i will pass the mic to my colleague. i am reminded of the book, the miseducation of the where he talks about, when you control the way a man thinks, you don t need to worry about how he acts. we are trying to control the minds of the citizenry, so they don t understand the self efficacy that they can have in true history. i will push back on that across the board and i am sorely disappointed. we are almost out of time. but i will give you the final word. well, i am the father of a recent college graduate, who studied african american studies. i m so glad that she did and that she can relate it to not just history, but the condition of african americans and america today. it s important for everybody to be uncomfortable with our history. it is important for us to know our history and to know how it

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:18:00

That by coming out with this book, yes, he is giving a little bit away, but he is also put public pressure on alvin bragg and others with coming forward with the details of what he knew about this investigation? it doesn t seem like alvin bragg is that impressed with him at all. he pushed back on some very important, basic things, from what we understand, in the book. for example, the two of them had big arguments about the quality of michael cohen as a witness and i have to say, even though he has a ton of experience, alan bragg seemed to be right to me. allen bragg said, i don t want to put michael cohen on as a witness. at least he s not the star witness. because the guy is a liar and he will be a problem. anybody who s ever tried a case knows, you could just go to school on michael cohen for hours an hours about and it will hurt the case. so, it seems to me that on some level, he validates with this book, oddly, the ability for

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:16:00

Basically maris what the attorney general is doing on the civil side. new york state has a racketeering charge, which mirrors the federal. it is called something else. but it basically mares that. i just don t think this book is anything but negative. and it will not affect any charges. matthew, yesterday bloomberg s tim o brien, someone very familiar with trump s finances, we should note, said that trump would probably be flattered by that comparison to john he said that the ex president once told him how much he admire the monster, in the way that he ran his organization and the loyalty aspect of it. what is your reaction to that? i mean, donald trump has shown a propensity to admire so, i mean, just look at vladimir putin. he loves putin. he seems to have some buddy

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:15:00

Read this book? anyone who reads this book will not be qualified as a juror in the case because they know too much. and so, it messes with the jury pool and i just think it is improper. you know, i was a prosecutor in the da s office there. i can t imagine writing anything about any case i ever had. i was a prosecutor in brooklyn, not manhattan. it is just not something that is acceptable behavior to career prosecutors. and this guy had a reputation as being a bit of an ego. and bigfoot coming in. and he cemented it with a spoke. fair enough. totally respect your opinion on that. can i get just get you very quickly to explain the racketeering part of the investigation? i totally get what you are saying about he should not have done this. but from what you understand racketeering to be, what is the significance of that in terms of trump s potential exposure? well, allen bragg is going to make a decision about if he is going to do a case that

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Tonight 20240604 03:44:00

The truth about power and it s abuse. it is. and i think, at its core, we are talking about race and racism, we need to understand that at its core, this is indeed about power. we talk a lot about ignorance, we talk a lot about hate, we talk a lot of miseducation, and all that is relevant. but nothing is more relevant than indeed power. and these black officers, like other officers who are not black, oftentimes have the power to harm and brutalize black people and get away with it. and that s one of the reasons why they consistently do it. when you re talking about course correction, when it comes down to power, how do you get the powers that be, or speak truth to the powerful, to change it? well, i think the unfortunate truth is many people who are in positions of power who could radically change this are quite concerned about this common belief that

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