did they know and when did they know it? questions swirl around the cia and the fbi as we learn more tonight about what happened in the days leading up to the bombshell resignation of cia director david petraeus. money trail. new concerns about whether millions in donations are actually reachin families left shattered by sandy. tonight, our nbc news investigation. moment of crisis at one of the most trusted institutions in the world. explosive allegations against a popular tv star, now a shake-up all the way at the top. reunited, separated during the storm, we're there for the emotional moments when families find the pets they thought were lost forever. and paying tribute to those who served and those who continue to serve. tonight, honoring our nation's heroes on this veterans day.
good evening. the fallout from the surprise resignation of cia director david petraeus after admitting to an extramarital affair has taken two tracks tonight. first with the bombshell landing just days after the presidential election, there is a growing course of questions from lawmakers about exactly when petraeus's affair was discovered and who in washington was told about it. then there's the fbi investigation that inadvertently exposed the whole thing. a probe into some harassing e-mails allegedly sent by petraeus's biography, paula broadwell. tonight nbc has learned who the fbi believes was on the receiving end of those e-mails. nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker has been working the story. she joins us now with the latest developments. kristen? >> reporter: lester, good evening.
according to multiple government officials, the woman who made the initial complaint to the fbi is a close family friend of general petraeus, and there is no indication of anything more. now, the details are still murky, and lawmakers are demanding more answers. ♪ >> reporter: according to a senior federal official and close friend of david petraeus, 37-year-old jill kelly complained to fbi agents about being harassed by paula broadwell, david petraeus's biography. a senior u.s. military official says jill kelly is involved in wounded warrior fund-raising in tampa, is married, she and her husband are close family friends. officials say petraeus's downfall started when kelly complained to the fbi that she was receiving intimidated e-mails from broadwell. law enforcement and multiple u.s. officials tell nbc news that those e-mails led to the discovery of others between general petraeus and broadwell and were indicative of an extramarital affair. a senior law enforcement official told nbc news that fbi agents interviewed general
petraeus in late october and concluded there was no criminal violation. today, members of congress are asking why the fbi did not inform them or the president sooner. >> we received no advanced notice. it was like a lightning bolt. i mean, this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. there is a way to do it. >> reporter: this comes as we are learning more about the days leading up to petraeus's resignation. house majority leader eric cantor said in late october he was tipped off by the situation. in a statement, cantor said, "i was contacted by an fbi employee concerned that sensitive, classified information may have been compromised and made certain director mueller was aware of these serious allegations and the potential risk to our national security." however, the president first learned about the incident on thursday, the day petraeus offered his resignation. a senior law enforcement official says the agent's call
to a congressional staffer had no effect on the petraeus/broadwell investigation or the timing of the disclosure. still lawmakers say there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. >> it seems as we've gone on for several months, and yet now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved, it just doesn't add up. >> reporter: several of petraeus's former aides say broadwell had too much access to the general. she hasn't been shy about sharing details about her relationship with petraeus, and their shared interest in running. >> ended up being a test for both of us since we both ran pretty quickly. but that was the foundation of our relationship. >> reporter: now, we have reached out to general petraeus. paula broadwell and jill kelly, so far no response. general petraeus was scheduled to testify on capitol hill this thursday about the attack in benghazi on the u.s. consulate. now, the acting cia director, michael morrell, is expected to testify in his place. that has upset some lawmakers who say petraeus is key to getting answers.
lester? >> kristen welker tonight, thank you. now to the other big story that has consumed washington in the days since the election. the so-called fiscal cliff looming at the end of the year. if democrats and republicans can't come together and agree on a deal to avert it, taxes are going to go up for most americans. we get the latest tonight from nbc's mike viqueira. >> reporter: today top democrats drew a hard line. it's either higher taxes on the wealthy or the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. >> if the republicans will not agree with that, we will reach a point at the end of this year where all the tax cuts expire, and we'll start over next year. >> reporter: this as one influential conservative called on republicans to give ground. >> let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell where one person says, you know what? really? the republican party's going to fall on its sword? a bunch of millionaires half of whom voted democratic and half of whom live in hollywood. >> reporter: but house speaker john boehner rejects any hike in
tax rates. instead he would close loopholes in the tax code. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> reporter: failure to agree by the end of the year would trigger a combination of deep spending cuts and expiring tax cuts. that could mean an estimated $2,000 more in taxes next year for the typical household. the jobless rate soaring to 9.1% by the end of the year. and possibly another recession. boehner and the president were close to a deal last year. the so-called grand bargain. $4 trillion in debt reduction including politically sensitive changes to social security and medicare. many think that blueprint still works. >> and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration, under republican administration. >> reporter: experts warn of serious damage to the economy if the standoff drags on. >> if three or four weeks from now they're making no progress at all, you're going to see the
anxiety and the nervousness growing both in the markets and in corporate boardrooms. it's going to be a rough two months for the u.s. economy. >> reporter: and lester, as the clock ticks with the two sides still at odds, they'll try to take the first steps towards common ground on friday here at the white house when the president hosts the entire congressional leadership. >> mick viqueira, thank you. tomorrow marks two weeks since sandy roared ashore here in the northeast, wiping out homes, leaving families with nowhere to go as they try to even think about how to pick up the pieces. a housing crisis that has the feds scrambling to help them. nbc's michelle frandsen is in staten island with more on that. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. this distribution center is the hub for this darkened neighborhood on staten island where people can come and get a hot meal and also much needed supplies. tonight, more than 120,000 homes and businesses in new york, new jersey and connecticut are still without power two weeks after sandy hit, and thousands of
others displaced and in search and in need of housing. patrice sotomayor has spent the day clearing out her staten island home. >> the water came up to here. >> reporter: since sandy hit, she has stayed with friends. but with her flooded home now gutted, patrice worries about finding a new home. >> i'm taking it a day at a time. i can't even think long term. >> reporter: today homeland security secretary janet napolitano returned to staten island for the second time since sandy struck. >> we know we have more to do. this is going to be here for the long term. and we are here for the long term as well. >> reporter: one of the biggest needs and questions, where to house the thousands of displaced residents. more than 4,800 displaced residents in new york, new jersey and connecticut are still in shelters tonight. fema is helping pay for temporary housing and says more than 369,000 have applied for individual assistance. and fema has approved more than
$455 million of assistance so far. meanwhile, organizations like new york-based architecture for humanity which has helped rebuild communities in haiti and new orleans say the long-term needs for sandy victims are just as great. >> what we've noticed is that there are pockets that are very similar to some of the hardest-hit areas after katrina. >> reporter: the company plans to help rebuild seaside heights, still closed off to residents. back in staten island, patrice says she doesn't know what's next, but she does know what she needs. >> i need some place to stay permanently. that i can afford to pay once fema help ends. >> reporter: and this is a community-based center run by volunteers. also fema has set up 55 centers throughout the hardest-hit areas of staten island. >> michelle frandsen, thank you. meanwhile, the red cross says it's received $117 million in donations to help victims of sandy. and tells us that so far its response has been near flawless.
but that's not what we heard in some hard-hit areas of new york city where storm victims claim the country's preeminent disaster relief organization has been missing in action. here's nbc's senior investigative correspondent lisa myers. >> reporter: two weeks after sandy hit, residents of breezy point, new york, still wonder if more help will ever arrive. >> we haven't seen red cross at all. red cross hasn't offered any assistance up until yesterday. >> reporter: carrie lynn allen says she's donated to the red cross before and is very disappointed. >> they take people's hardworking money to assist people. and then when push comes to shove, they don't assist. >> reporter: her neighbors also wonder what happened. >> the red cross, you know, they're normally a wonderful organization, and it's just that they're not here. >> reporter: ann marie willis coordinates volunteers in the community and rates the red cross performance here poor. >> they need help with
everything from housing to just hold them, say you're going to be okay. you'll get through this. we need everything. and i know the red cross has it. >> reporter: even in areas with a greater red cross presence like brooklyn, there is criticism. >> they were all saying "too late. way too late. we needed help back then, and now people are sick and people are in trouble." >> reporter: red cross ceo gail mcgovern defends what she calls a massive relief effort. 5,700 volunteers, hundreds of emergency vehicles serving 4.8 million meals and snacks, shelters, clothing, health services. so what grade would you give the red cross so far? >> i think that we are near flawless so far in this operation. i'm just so proud of everything that we are doing on the ground. it is incredible. >> one truck offers sandwiches with a blowhorn? it's disgusting. >> reporter: the red cross also
has drawn fire in the past. it was accused of a chaotic and uneven response to katrina. and of being too slow to spend money in haiti. as for sandy, mcgovern says this storm poses unique challenges. the first cold weather hurricane. victims stacked in high-rises. a storm area the size of europe. the red cross promises that 91 cents of every dollar donated will be used to help victims of this storm. mcgovern says she hears the cries for help and is moving as quickly as possible to get as many resources as possible to the hardest-hit areas. lester? >> please sa meyers, lisa myers. ors are trying to figure out what caused an explosion. the explosion sparked a huge fire, flames shooting into the night sky that damaged or destroyed about three dozen homes. and take a look at the scene in denver. a southwest airlines 737 slid
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we're back with more tonight on a deepening scandal involving one of the world's largest and most respected broadcasters, the bbc. one month after a legendary host
was accused of having a long history of child sex abuse, the top official resigned this weekend. we get the latest from nbc's keir simmons in london. >> reporter: it is a british institution described today as in near meltdown. >> the terrible crisis which is entirely self-inflicted. >> reporter: the bbc, watched and trusted by millions, now overwhelmed by scandal, leading to the resignation this weekend of its director general after just 54 days on the job. a broken broadcaster, its leaders admitted today. >> if you're saying, does the bbc need a thorough structural radical overhaul, then absolutely it does. >> tonight, historical allegations -- >> reporter: for a week the bbc wrongly implicated a senior politician in child sex abuse claims. other networks made the same mistake. but for the bbc, it followed the decision to kill an investigation by the program "newsnight" of an alleged child abuser in its own ranks. for decades, one of the bbc's
star hosts. >> it really is one of the most serious crises the bbc has ever faced. >> reporter: there are continuing questions as well about the man who entered a few months ago was the bbc's director general and editor in chief, mark thompson. tomorrow is he scheduled to become the ceo of "the new york times." in a statement, thompson said, "during my time, i never heard any allegations about jimmy." but nbc has spoken to one journalist who says he informed thompson's personal assistant about the claims. >> i absolutely said that. i always felt it extraordinary that no senior people within the bbc, including mark thompson as director general, ever addressed this issue. >> reporter: the bbc disputes his claim, but admits in the report it did call thompson's office. they've seen public trust stop and his successors step down. now some predict more of thompson's former colleagues may have to resign before this is
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in the middle of all the loss and suffering from hurricane sandy, tonight we take a look at another part of the story that's gotten less attention. the plight of all the animals that became separated from their owners when the big storm hit. nbc's jill rappaport has that story. >> reporter: survivors of hurricane sandy are holding on to whatever they can find. >> everything is gone. everything. >> reporter: all you have left is what's on your back? >> on my back. >> reporter: and by your side.
despite losing their homes and belongings, these people feel lucky. >> she's my heart. >> reporter: she's your heart and soul. >> yes. >> reporter: as sandy approa approached, officials in the northeast told residents to evacuate. >> don't leave your pet at home because you don't know when you can get back. >> reporter: but some didn't heed the warnings. >> most people did not think they were going to be gone for this long. they thought they would be back within three days. so they're heartbroken. >> reporter: animal rescue teams spent days scouring the hardest-hit areas, rescuing thousands of animals. >> my cat. >> reporter: in new jersey about 200 pets are in a temporary shelter run by the humane society of the united states. many animals here are accounted for. but since not all evacuation shelters allow pets, it may be some time before their owners can reclaim them. >> we're going to reunite you in a second. >> reporter: some are waiting patiently. >> daddy missed you so much. my baby boy. >> reporter: others a little less patiently.
then there are the four-legged survivors without owners. like max who survived after a tree fell on him. tragically, that tree killed his owner and her friend. >> we didn't think he was going to make it for the first 48 hours. and then his strength and his will to live just really, really shone through, and now he's going to bring some comfort and joy to the parents who have really lost everything. >> reporter: the aspca is helping this group of displaced new yorkers and their pets move to an animal-friendly shelter. >> not having your pet here would be like not having a family member here. >> we love these guys and each other. >> reporter: happy reunions after a harrowing ordeal. as people count their blessings in the midst of devastation and loss. jill rappaport, nbc news, new york. the producers of "skyfall," the latest james bond movie, might want to rename it
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it was on this date, the 11th day of the 11th month 94 years ago, an armistice was signed drawing world war i to a close. sadly, it would not prove to be the war to end all wars. and so with members of the u.s. military serving here at home and overseas, many in conflict, today on this veterans day, we celebrated and honored those who have worn this nation's uniforms and preserved our freedom. ♪ aim, fire! >> each year, on the 11th day of the 11th month, we pause as a nation and as a people to pay tribute to you, the heroes over
the generations who have served this country of ours with distinction. [ playing "taps" ] ♪ >> we have to remember who fought for our country and who gave us our independence and our freedom. it's our veterans. >> we lose sight of what has been paid as far as the price for our patriotism, then we're lost. ♪ >> i believe in what they do for our country. and support our freedom and defend our country so that we can live free. >> in this country, we take care of our own. especially our veterans who have served us so bravely and sacrificed so selflessly in our nation. >> welcome home, daddy. >> thank you, buddy. >> we carry on, knowing that our best days always lie ahead.
>> americans expressing gratitude for our veterans on this november 11th. one final note here, earlier in this broadcast we showed a picture of several people including a woman named jill kelley. while showing the photo, we inadvertently zoomed into the portion of the picture which showed kelley's sister on the left. to clear up any confusion, jill kelley is the woman second from the right. and we apologize. that's "nbc nightly news" for this sunday. brian williams will be here tomorrow. i'm lester hou eer holt reporti new york. for all of us here at nbc news, good night.
had to be rescued. the federal government is looking into a series of fatal shootings by philadelphia police. elaine quijano tells us the investigation was requested by the police commissioner. >> i take this very, very seriously. >> good girl! >> reporter: and chip reid with s with dogs learning to be an even better friend to man. >> it would be accurate to say that these dogs save sflooifs >> absolutely. i believe they do. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> o'donnell: good evening, scott is on assignment, i'm norah o'donnell. hundreds of people in southern california have been chased out of their homes by a wild fire is growing larger by the minute. the fire 90 miles east of los angeles covers more than 15 square miles. fire officials estimate 15 structures have been destroyed, 600 homes are in the fire's path
1,500 people have been forced to evacuate. at least five people have been injured, including four firefighters. ben tracy is on the scene. ben? >> reporter: norah, firefighters told us the most active part of this fire right now is right here. here's what's fueling it: vegetation all up and down these hillsides that's dried out from drought. 1,000 firefighters are now battling this blaze both on the ground and in the air. it's what they call a dirty burn meaning the fire burns sporadically because of the winds. so today crews were cutting out what the fire did not burn and doubting what it did to prevent flare-ups. before dawn we saw these backfires set by firefighters to burn out brush on the hillsides and create larger containment lines. firefighter gordon o'neil. >> it turns to black, which won't burn anymore, it widens that line out. and it removes the fuel that's
available to burn. >> reporter: you're fighting the fire with fire. the fire started wednesday afternoon fueled by steady winds and bone-dry brush that hadn't burned in seven years. it exploded from 300 acres to 5,000 acres in about three hours. it then doubled in size overnight, scorching 10,000 acres and more than a dozen struck qhurs. >> oh, there it goes. >> we didn't think it was coming this way then instantedly whole mountain caught on fire. i couldn't get my briefcase. >> reporter: andy and melinda schraeder said they had no time to escape. the fire burned upmost of their yard and burned their rr. they hosed down the roof and managed to save their house and horses. you were basically surrounded by fire. >> we were, we couldn't get out. >> reporter: what did it feel like? >> i thought i was going to die. i got a handkerchief to put around my face. i kept inhaling smoke. >> it was really hot. i thought we were going to die
out here. >> reporter: those four fighters injured have been released from the hospital but we're told there's another unidentified person who is badly burned. firefighters in the next couple of hours are going to contain as much of this fire as they can because, as you can tell, the winds are starting to pick up. >> o'donnell: ben, thank you. and flames in the west and flooding in the nation's mid-section. a storm front has stalled, dumping rain on five states. in tennessee, some folks climbed on to their roofs to escape the rising water. at least two people have drown in missouri, their cars swept away by floodwaters. one was a four-year-old boy and they're still looking for his mother. lindsey graham gramson of our cbs affiliate is in jerome, missouri. how significant is the damage? >> floods have ripped through the southwestern region of the state. the four-year-old boy was trapped in his mother's car as waters rushed in. authorities continue to search for the boy's mother.
this area has seen as much as 15 inches of rain in the last two days alone. the t river here in jerome crested at 32 feet, its highest level ever recorded. up to 40 homes have been completely flooded. we spoke with residents who had to evacuate their homes. >> not knowing, i think, is probably the hardest part because you know how to react or which way to start when you know what you're dealing with and when you don't know what you're dealing with. >> just depressed. there ain't nothing you can do, so you just sit there and watch it getting wet. that's all you can do. >> reporter: a flash flood warning is still in effect as heavy rains are expected through friday night. >> o'donnell: lindsay, thank you. that worldwide alert for a possible al qaeda terror attack remains in effect for the rest of the month and 19 u.s. embassy and consulates are closed as a precaution, at least until the weekend. the focus of the threat is yemen. the u.s. carried out three more drone strikes today, taking out 12 suspected terrorists. there have been eight drone attacks in the past two weeks,
killing more than 30. bob orr is in washington, he's our homeland security correspondent and, bob, what's behind this uptick in these drone strikes just today? >> reporter: well, norah, i think we can say the surge we're seeing in drone strikes is clearly aimed at trying to disrupt any potential attack plans about dplaep yemen. the u.s. here is sending a pretty clear psychological message that the drones are on constant patrol, scouting for targets. it's interesting to note there have only been 12 drone strikes in yemen all year up until july 27, but that was about the time that u.s. intelligence overheard al qaeda leaders plotting imminent attacks and then everything changed. we've now seen five drone strikes in just the last three days. by the way, it's also interesting, all the militants who have been killed have been hit while riding in small groups inside vehicles. >> o'donnell: so what do we know about who is being targeted by the drone strikes? >> sources tell us most of those who who have been killed so far were terrorist foot soldiers, four were described as mid-level
group leaders. but the drones haven't found two of the targets that they're looking for, the leader of a.q.a.p. and the master bomb mayber, ibrahim al asiri. sources say it does reduce the group's manpower and forces the other terrorists to keep an eye on the skies. if they're focused on trying to survive intelligence analysts say the terrorists can not effectively plot. norah? >> o'donnell: at the fort hood massacre trial the judge refused to allow the attorneys advising major hasan to take over his defense so hasan continued to act as his own attorney in the case in which he's charged with murdering 13 fellow soldiers and wounding 32 others. anna werner is at fort hood, texas. anna? >> reporter: norah, for many of the witnesses here this is the first time they're confronting the man accused of trying to kill them.
witnesses described chaos as the gunman walked through the building leaving blood and bodies in his wake. specialist meagan martinez described watching a soldier sitting near her get shot as the gunman showed no emotion. "it was just a cold, calculated heart stare at us and he was just shooting everything that moved," she testified. "when a captain got up and charged him" she said "he was shot at close range." major hasan took note bus mostly looked forward impassively. he is in a wheelchair, paralyzed by bullets fired at him by fort hood security. staff sergeant michael davis testified at first he thought the shooting was a drill, then, he said "i heard a young lady screaming my baby, my baby, my baby." it was the pregnant private francesca valez, she died that day. davis himself was shot in the back trying to escape the only time hasan objected today was
when another witness described hearing that pregnant woman beg for her life and then herring hasan allegedly shoot her. >> o'donnell: an, that thank you. turning now to the economy, the labor department says 333,000 americans joined the line for unemployment benefits last week. that's 5,000 more than the week before. and rising home prices are helping folks who have been drowning in debt in the second quarter of this year. 26% of american homeowners owed more than their mortgages -- than their homes were worth. that's down from 29% a year earlier. danielle nottingham is with the a chicago couple struggling to keep their home. >> reporter: connie and vance brown planned to spend the rest of their lives in this chicago condo they bought 14 years ago. do you think you will have to leave this place? >> i don't want to leave and he doesn't want to leave. >> reporter: but they may not have a choice.
they stopped making mortgage payments two years ago soon after they lost their full-time jobs. connie found part-time work counseling troubled teens and vance, who's a computer tech, has only been able to find a job as a dishwasher. what do you do now? >> hoping and praying that i get some work and hoping and praying that my husband will get a better job and hoping and praying we get back up on our feet. >> reporter: a six-month grace period they arranged with their lender is over. foreclosure is likely. they say they can't leave chicago to find better jobs because they owe $50,000 more than their condo is worth. it's called being underwater. there are more than 7 31,000 homeowners in chicago in the same situation. that's more than any other u.s. city. rising home prices have helped reduce the number of underwater homeowners nationwide by 1.5 million, but the percentage of
those underwater in the hardest-hit markets remains high. 55% in las vegas, 49% in orlando. full recovery depends on people like the browns landing new jobs. >> we were middle-class, you know? and we were proud of it because we worked our way up for that. >> reporter: do you have somewhere to go? >> we have nowhere to go at all. nowhere to go. only thing i know the places that we would be going is out on the street. >> reporter: a new york federal reserve study found homeowners underwater are a third less likely to move and, norah, the more debt they owe, the greater the chances they won't leave. >> o'donnell: danielle, thank you. there were three winning tickets in last night's powerball drawing for a jackpot that topped out at $448 million. two were sold in new jersey. those winners have not come forward. the third was hold in minnesota to paul white.
he's 45 and works for an electrical contractor. white called the experience "surreal." >> i feel this pressure off my shoulders that you carry everyday with you. i have two kids. am i going to be able to pay for them to go to college? am i going to be able to take care of them if they have health issues? all these things, gone. >> o'donnell: that check he's holding reads $149 million but after taxes he will take a lump sum of just about $58 million. and a teenager dies after being tasered by the police in miami beach. bill clinton and oprah winfrey are about to get a very prestigious award. and the national zoo welcomes tiger twins when the "cbs evening news" continues.
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government is looking into a series of fatal shootings by the police. what's surprising is who requested the review. here's elaine quijano. >> reporter: the confrontation that led to michael berry's death on a philadelphia sidewalk last summer was captured on surveillance video. berry, seen here leaning through a car window, had just stabbed a man he'd gotten into a fistfight with moments earlier. when plain-clothed officers from the philadelphia police department arrived, one officer fired seven shots, killing berry. the philadelphia district attorney's office said the shooting was justified. police commissioner charles ramsey. >> i take this very, very seriously. there's nothing more serious that an officer can do than take another life, shoot another individual. >> reporter: the case is one of 125 police-involved shootings in philadelphia that have taken police since 2011. 37 people have died and, in some
neighborhoods, anger has boiled over, as it did in may when officers shot seven people in one week. four died. after may's deadly police shootings, commissioner ramsey took the extraordinary step of asking the justice department to examine his department's use of force. what is your sense of the public's perception of the philadelphia police department when it comes to the use of force? >> there are parts of our city that think that i'm taking a step that's not necessary. there are members of other communities-- primarily minority communities-- that think that perhaps there's too much police presence and that perhaps we are a little too heavy-handed. >> reporter: concerns are limited to philadelphia. the justice department has examined police shootings in a number of cities including las vegas and spokane, washington. and last month in miami the civil rights division of the justice department found three of 33 police-involved shootings were unjustified. commissioner ramsey is confident that all his officer shootings
were justified. some people would argue, though, that by asking for this review it's undermining the authority of the officers who are out there and second guessing what it is that they've done? >> i think our job is to second guess. i think our job is to review. our job is to evaluate. and that's what we have to do. >> reporter: since he became commissioner 2008, seven officers have died-- four were shot to death. their pictures hang on his wall. >> i look at this as much as an officer's safety effort as i do anything else. making sure the officers' tactics are such that they can keep themselves safe when they encounter these very dangerous people. >> reporter: the justice department review is expected to take a year and a half. commissioner ramsey says he plans to implement whatever recommendations are made. elaine quijano, cbs news, philadelphia. >> o'donnell: in a moment, we'll remember one of the biggest movie stars of the '70s, karen black.
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they will be presented later this year. a pair of by a tigers were presented at the national zoo. today we got our first look at the moms fussed over them. the cubs appear quite healthy and the zoo keepers are excited by their birth because sue mat ran tigers are critically endangered. fewer than 500 live in the wild. ark tress karen black has died, the cause was cancer. black appeared in more than 100 movies including the classic "easy rider." she was nominated for an oscar for her performance in "five easy pieces" and she played a sultry country singer in "nashville." karen black was 74. in country music, cowboy jack clement did it all, working with so many legends as a producer, engineer and songwriter. he died today of liver cancer. ♪ note? >> pelley: clement arranged the horns for johnny cash on "ring of fire." he also helped discover jerry
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>> o'donnell: you may recall that after the boston marathon bombing the f.b.i. arrested two friends of suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev for allegedly hiding evidence in the case-- a backpack and a laptop removed from tsarnaev's dorm room and tossed in the trash. well, today a federal grand jury indicted the two men, both 19, on charges they obstructed justice. and chip reid tells us the boston bombing has led to a spike in enrollment at a school that prepares uniquely qualified students for a career in security. >> reporter: at this 10,000 square foot warehouse in windsor, connecticut, 13 labrador retrievers and four german shepherds are in special training. >> good girl! >> reporter: she sat down, what does that mean? >> well this particular piece of
luggage has some explosives in it. >> reporter: zane roberts is the lead trainer at m.s.a. security, a private company that trains bomb-sniffing dogs. the >> the demand for these dogs is tremendous. >> reporter: since boston in sflar >> since boston in particular. >> reporter: since the boston marathon bombings business has increased about 30% at m.s.a.. they have nearly 200 dog teams at locations across the nation and expect to have 25 more by the end of the year. the trainers are all former members of the military or law enforcement. they protect everything from financial institutions to professional baseball games. >> the presence of an explosive detection canine does make people feel safe. it's a great deterrent effect for people who want to bomb a location. they see dog, they'll want to go someplace else. >> reporter: the pentagon spent six years and $19 billion researching high-tech bomb detection systems but concluded that the best bomb detector is still a dog. if you took a machine and tried
to search that luggage as fast as i could search it with one dog i'd beat you ever time. >> reporter: roberts has taught mary, a three-year-old lab, to detect a wide variety of bomb-making materials. >> good girl! >> reporter: most of the doogs here failed at becoming guide dogs because they were too energetic or too easily distracted by smells. that's what makes them ideal for detecting explosives. labs in particular have a strong food drive, which is why food reward training works so well. basic training takes about 12 weeks. >> what a good girl! >> reporter: rockets says when the dogs graduate from this one-room schoolhouse he's always sad to see them go. what is the bond like between the handler and his dog? makes you smile right off the bat. >> absolutely. i often can't remember the handler's name but i never forget the dog's name. >> reporter: he'll soon have to learn new names because important jobs are waiting for
all of these good dogs. chip reid, cbs news, windsor, connecticut. >> o'donnell: good dogs, indeed. that's the "cbs evening news" for tonight. for scott pelley, i'm norah o'donnell. thanks for watching. see you tomorrow bright and early on cbs "this morning." good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org cook. >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald good evening, i'm allen martin. >> i'm elizabeth cook. tonight, the search for sandra coke is growing more desperate. the federal investigator from oakland has been missing since sunday. mike sugerman says her family and friends are reaching out to
the public for help and offering a big reward. mike. reporter: liz, you're right. this tells you a lot about sandra coke and the case. $100,000 reward. where's that money coming from? from her friends's pockets. they just got together and gave what they could and the search continues. >> for anyone -- >> reporter: tanya coke is desperate to get her sister back. >> my sister is an incredibly devoted mother, sister, friend and coworker, which is why there are so many people here today. >> reporter: two dozen people in fact from around the country to help search for sandra coke, now armed with a reward for information, $100,000. >> we are remaining optimistic that she is being held someplace against her will but is safe and that she will be returned to us. >> reporter: 50-year-old sandra coke who investigates death penalty cases and helps defend
them left her home sunday night about 7 p.m. she went to the drugstore to get something for her 15-year- old daughter. but that's the last time anyone saw or has heard from her. >> the only reason she would have not come home right away with something from the drugstore that i can think of is that someone called about ginny, her lost dog. >> reporter: her dog's been missing for months and she has had some people calling her about it. sometimes demanding money before they gave information. she once spent $1,000 without getting the dog back. $100,000 we regard? that was privately raised mostly by the many friends of sandra coke for the $100,000 reward. they are head coaching the money and the plea by her sister tanya will motivate someone who knows something. >> we all are just desperate to see her returned home safely. and so we are again asking anybody with information about my
on this sunday night -- on alert. after almost two dozen american embassies are closed, the u.s. goes further, tonight broadening its order in what some call the most serious terror threat since the 9/11 attacks. boardwalk rampage. a california man faces a charge of murder after allegedly driving his car into a crowdof hundreds, killing a woman on her honeymoon and injuring 11 others. up in the air. yankees slugger add ex-rodriguez about to find out how long he'll be suspended in baseball's highest profile scandal involving performance enhancing drugs. back to school. means a big tax break for many parents shopping for school supplies, but not everyone thinks it's a good idea.
and fantastic voyage. as a group of american treasure hunters strike it rich, very rich, at the bottom of the sea. good evening. just a short time ago, the state department announced it will extend the closings of some u.s. embassies in the face of a serious and credible, but so far unspecified, terror threat against american tro interests overseas. some two dozen embassies and consulates were closed today as a precaution as we learn more about the level and gravity the intelligence officials are acting upon. the consensus seems to be the threat is very real, but it's the targets that appear to be anyone's guess, which is why a worldwide warning remains in effect for americans traveling abroad. once again, tonight we're tracking all angles of this story, christian welker starts us off at the white house.
good evening, kristen. >> reporter: good evening. tonight the state department announced two dozen of the diplomatic posts closed today will remain closed through next weekend and four additional closures through the week. the reason given? an abundance of caution because of the muslim holy month of ramadan. back from camp david, president obama is getting regular briefings by his national security team on the threat that has shuddered posts in north africa and the middle east. >> there's been a lot of chatter, chatter means conversations among terrorists about the planning that's going on, very reminiscent of what we saw pre-9/11. >> reporter: according to two top u.s. officials, the terror plot could include one large attack or simultaneous attacks around the world. but the intelligence still isn't crystal-clear. embassies and consulates from cairo to kabul are bracing themselves. although the streets of kabul were calm today, the embassy was
still closed and will remain on high alert. of the compound has been a target in the past by insurgents, particularly by the haqqani network, an al qaeda affiliated group. national security officials told nbc news today the threat is coming directly from al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, based in yemen, a terror group getting stronger in recent years. >> it's more dangerous because now we have what i call 2.0 or 3.0 which is widely disbursed, a anewer group. >> reporter: meanwhile, tighter screen for overseas flights. >> it always makes you nervous, but you have to carry on. just keep on going. >> i'm really worried because my wife is going to saudi arabia. >> reporter: and this morning fresh debate about the nsa's surveillance program, which intelligence officials say tipped them off about this latest threat. >> it is scary. al qaeda is on the rise in this part of the world, and the nsa program has proven its worth yet
again. >> you have to be very careful about how much you represent that any particular program has contributed to our security. >> reporter: and tonight nbc is reporting that officials in pakistan has tightened security in islamabad due to a potential terror threat interethere, but s hour there's no link between the two. >> the embassy in cairo is among those affected by this order. tonight our chief foreign correspondent richard engel has more on precautions there and insight into are where this threat is coming from. >> reporter: good evening, lester. these are the side streets around the u.s. embassy here in downtown cairo. the embassy today is closed like so many embassies and consulates in the region, and as you can see the embassy tonight is right behind this very big, very imposing concrete barricade. this wall went up about a year ago after a group of demonstrators tried to storm ip inside the compound. this time we're told the threat
goes right back to yes, ma'am p, specifically to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, which is based in yemen. the group is considered capable. it has many skilled bomb makers. and it is also motivated right now because in the middle of last month one of the group's deputy commanders was killed in a drone strike. the man who has replaced them, the group's new leader, is considered perhaps even more dangerous at one stage he was osama bin laden's secretary. and some intelligence analysts say he may be wanting to prove himself to try and exert himself on the international stage by carrying out some sort of terror attack in yemen or abroad. but not all u.s. diplomats are happy with this situation. they say there needs to be xurpt, but they also say they can't do their jobs if they're locked behind big walls like this one. lester? >> richard engel reporting from cairo. let's bring in our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. andrea, we know from previous experience the u.s. can't
maintain this red alert posture indefinitely so what's the plan going forward here? >> it really is day by day. the intelligence of an impending attack as you're reporting is serious but they still don't know the specific target. there are several other threats, possibility for the retaliation for the drone strike richard just mentioned and a threatening speech last week by ayman al zawahiri. the upcoming anniversary this week of bombings of tanzania and elsewhere and of course ramadan. after wrestling with whether to closing the additional posts they decided to err on the side of caution. in los angeles, a man is in custody facing a charge of murder after allegedly driving a car into a crowd of people enjoying themselves on the boardwalk in the popular venice beach area. a woman on her honeymoon was killed and 11 others injured. nbc's miguel alma ger is there with the latest. miguel? >> reporter: good evening, on a summer weekend this boardwalk is
packed with thousands of people, it was a similar scene yesterday when the car slammed into that group of pedestrians, including that woman who was here on her honeymo honeymoon. security cameras capture the moment of impact. look closely at the top of the screen as a car plows through the crowd. just moments earlier, the driver is seen entering the car, then speeding away. a second camera shows pedestrians leaping for their lives. >> we have a critical situation. we need a driver. >> reporter: chaos and panic ensue. at least a dozen people were struck by a driver who witnesses say appeared to be aiming for the crowd. victims strewn everywhere. >> one of the medics from 67th working on the critical patient. >> the scene was really bad. there were tables, people everywhere, blood everywhere. there was scattered stuff. it was horrible. >> reporter: 32-year-old italian
woman visiting california while on her honeymoon was killed. >> i saw a girl go over his roof and another girl ended up over there. >> reporter: another victim is in critical condition, ten others hospitalized. >> i'm never going to forget that moment. it was surreal. he was zigzagging and i ran. >> reporter: hours lairpt, the damaged sedan was found abandoned. investigators say a 35-year-old man turned himself will into police late saturday night. >> detectives have booked nathan campbell for a murder that took place last night. >> reporter: of the venice boardwalk is one of southern california's most popular attractions. the famed muscle beach and miles of coastline an international draw. tonight the crowds are back as many remember the victims and police look to answer the question so many here are asking -- why? tonight, the outpouring of support is coming in from around
the globe. a.c. milan has expressed its convict dole evens for the 32-year-old newlywed killed here, her father a former team executive. suspensions are expected tomorrow for alex rodriguez and other major league players accused of using performance enhancing drugs. a-rod is by far the highest profile and highest paid among them and faces the most severe punishment. we get a report from nbc's ron mott. >> reporter: alex rodriguez is poised to receive the costliest suspension ever levied in baseball, a penalty that could approach $35 million and perhaps effectively end the 38-year-old slugger's career. on monday, sources tell nbc sports the controversial player will be suspended through the 20 fla 14 season for obstructing the investigation into p.e.d.s. >> it's very clear that baseball is serious about this. they may have gotten religion on it late, but once they did they
got serious. they're showing no favoritism. >> reporter: rodriguez has been tuning up in the minor leagues. before rejoining the yankees monday in chicago for the first time all year, after off-season hip surgery. friday he held court, upbeat, smiling, yet he complained about what he deemed were efforts to cancel his remaining yankees contract worth nearly $100 million. but late saturday, after reports circulated a severe sanction had been settled on by commissioner bud selig, a different rodriguez. [ inaudible ] >> i plan to set my girls down with cynthia and we're going to have a lengthy conversation. and i'll have an opportunity to tell it all. at some point. i'll have that platform and when the time is right, i'll tell my full story. >> reporter: in january, a-rod's name surfaced if a miami-area newspaper report along with other big leaguers who will also
be suspended tomorrow about a clinic allegedly supplying steroids and other banned drugs to athletes. the foundation of the report documents taken by a former employee, disgruntled about not getting back all of a $4,000 loan he made to the company founder. a modest sum of money now having extraordinary financial impact that could reshape baseball for years to come. a-roded is expected to appeal any suspension and he still could be eligible to take the field tomorrow in chicago. lester? >> ron, thank you. in the west, residents are recovering from severe weather in colorado. parts of the state hit by heavy rains and flooding last night, high winds and at least half a dozen confirmed tornadoes, most of them causing little damage. the storms moved into neighboring kansas causing severe flash flooding. and one more note from overseas tonight. the man who was the face of iran in all its hostility toward this country was officially replaced today by a new president who is at least talking about more
dialogue with the west. tonight nbc's ann curry is inside iran and reports on the shift in power. >> reporter: on iran state television, the transfer of power from milwaukee mahmadinej full of goodwill. we never heard this from president ahmadinejad. >> translator: the only way to engage with iran on common issues is to build trust on both sides. a mutual respect and by lowering tensions between each other. >> reporter: perhaps as significant as the new president's message is today's orchestration of the international press. this inauguration has turned into a world press event and really only for one reason -- the world is worried iran could soon have the bomb. and iran give the media, a show. its modern parliament a setting for a television spectacular. for the first time, heads of
state from all over the world were invited, with the notable exception of the united states and israel. while afghanistan's hamid karzai and top official from north korea were in attendance, heads of state from western europe were not. after his remarks, the president immediately named his entire cabinet, most fell on moderates. he was clearly signaling the direction he wants iran to go and how fast. ann curry, nbc news, tehran. when "nightly news" continues on this sunday, who wouldn't want a nice break on costly back-to-school shopping? we'll tell you why some are not so excited. and they didn't strike gold, but it's the next best thing. tonight a real silver lining, and it is worth a fortune.
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it's the start of august and a back-to-school ritual has begun. the annual shopping spree for school supply that's can cost hundreds of dollars. to make it a little easier, more states are offering breaks on the sales tax, but is this good policy? we get more tonight from nbc's chief education correspondent. >> reporter: it's that time of year again. >> get one of these. >> reporter: all across the country, moms and dads are crowding the stores to stock up on school supplies. getting their little ones ready to go back to school. >> we tried to get here as early as we could to avoid the craziness. >> two weeks out i start saving and looking for deals. >> it is very surprising how much we spend. >> reporter: terri is shopping for three today. >> tough in the economy right now. >> we will probably be around $150 for three students. >> reporter: the pencils, pens and binders can quickly add up, which is why some states are giving parents a break from paying the sales tax. at least 17 states are waiving
the tax on school supplies and clothing, 12 states doing so this weekend. >> it makes a difference when you're spending a chunk of money. any little bit you can save. >> reporter: discounts on the tax break all benefit the consum consumer, but can the states afford to lose the rove knew right now? >> there's a real risk that six to 12 months from now the revenues gone today will be sorely missed because of slower economic growth. >> reporter: states do lose out on potentially mm-hillions of dollars in sales tax revenue very hard to recoup. and once the states start a sales tax holiday it becomes very popular with the consumer tks's very hard for the states to pull back on it. >> reporter: especially when shoppers are watching the bottom line and tightening those purse strings. the average family will spend around $635 this year, down almost 8% from about $688 last year. >> the name of the game for parents this year really is
reuse what you can and of course buy what you need. they're going to spend with practicality and cost in mind. >> as a mom, i feel like that's amy job, to save where we can, whether it be buying in bulk or recycling and things like that. >> reporter: and hoping that those sales tax breaks will return the next school year. nbc news, orlando, florida. there's more to tell you about tonight, including the plight of the puffin and a warning for all of us. how uncomfortable it can be. [ crickets chirping ] but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? [ exhales deeply ] [ male announcer ] well there is biotene. specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants, biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. [ applause ] biotene -- for people who suffer from dry mouth.
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of sea birds. >> reporter: puffins have bright orange beaks and black and white bodies. they are deceptively fast, flying at speeds of up to 55 miles per hour. hunted a century ago for food and feathers, they disappeared from seal island, a pile of granite slabs off of coast of maine, now a national wildlife refuge. there are 500 pairs of puffins here today, thanks to 40 years of work by dr. steve press of the national autobahn society and the u.s. fish and wildlife service. >> we don't to sit on the sidelines and watch species go extinct. >> reporter: but kres says these diving birds face a new threat. today's threat comes from the sea, warming water temperatures are changing the ocean, and that in turn is changing the puffins' diet. puffins eat cold water fish. harder to find last summer when the water here was five degrees warmer than normal. scientist jeffrey rung says it's part of a decade-long warming
trend happening ten times faster than in the last century. >> this may have well had an effect on where herring feed and consequently if herring aren't where the puffins need to be, the puffins will go search other food. >> reporter: what they found last summer the chicks couldn't swallow so many starved to death. this year, kres says there are 20% fewer puffins in burrows and are nesting two weeks laifrpt, all signs of stress for the birds and perhaps us. >> there's many industries, including lobsters, who use herring for bait to catch lobsters. and if the food is too far away for the puchs, it will be too far away for people as well will. >> reporter: a warning from nature, some believe, in a colorful and charismatic package. anne thompson, nbc news, on seal island, maine. another big win and a record to report today for american swimmer missy franklin. the 18-year-old franklin claimed her sixth gold medal at the world championship in barcelona as part of a 400-meter medley relay. franklin became the most winning
female swimmer ever at the world championships. another milestone to report. president obama celebrating his 52nd birthday today. these days, what birthday would be be complete without a few words on twitter? among others, bill clinton offered his thoughts to 44 happy birthday at barack obama from 42. another political note, a follow-up on a story 0 a few weeks ago, tonight the results are in and 4-year-old bobby tufts is a very happy young man, having just won reelection as the certify moanial mayor of dorsett, minnesota, population 22. after a hard-fought campaign, bobby's name was pulled from a hat again at the annual town fair. when we come back, we'll go on a treasure hunt you won't want to miss. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation.
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finally tonight, a story that gives a new meaning to silver lining. treasure hunters scored one for the record books when they recovered more than 100 tons of silver from a british ship that was sunk during world war ii. and what a payday it was. nbc's kerry sanders tonight. >> reporter: off the coast of ireland, three miles down, american treasure hunters found the mother lode. in waters deeper than the titanic, bars of precious silver, in all 110 tons. >> fantastic. hasn't quite sunk in yet, but it's starting to dawn on me now
what we've achieved out here. >> reporter: the gair sop pa was a british steamship torpedoed in 1941 by one of hitler's u-boats. the cargo traveling to great britain to fund the war effort. in all, the sal raj team pulled up 2,792 silver inningities. >> hn his majesty mint, bombay. >> we're sitting on $700,000 worth of silver. >> yeah. >> and the numbers are a bit mind-boggling. i just see them as very heavy lumps of waste we've been pulled around. >> reporter: the final silver bar was pulled to the surface days ago. >> that's the last one. >> reporter: 20% goes to the british government, the treasure hunters odyssey marine treasure hunters get 80% of a treasure that exceeds $77 million. >> this is the deepest recovery of precious metal ever done. it's a world record. the water depth is almost 15,000 feet, about three miles deep. >> reporter: also recovered,
letters. >> oh, my god, here's a stamp on the letter. india postage. >> reporter: newspapers from 1941 and financial records. >> manufacturers life insurance company. this actually may be worth something to this family if it can be tracked down. >> reporter: so what happens to all this silver in the vault? it's headed to the british mint, the same mint that's striking commemorative coins for the newborn prince. because this could be the target of thieves, all i can say is kerry sanders, nbc news, somewhere in great britain. >> that's "nbc nightly news" for this sunday. brian williams will be here tomorrow. will i'm lester holt reporting from new york. for all of us here at nbc news, good night.
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this is the fox report. tonight former secretary of state condeleeza rice deciding not to dhifr a commencement address to thousands of college grads and the white house playing defense. a year and half after the terror attack that left four americans dead house speaker john boehner appointing a special committee to uncover the truth about what happened that night and how the white house responded and an american war veteran sitting in a mexican jail for a terrible mistake and now concerns for his
safety. >> mom, i will not make it through the night. don't come and ask questions, because you are not safe either. >> tonight, what the u.s. is doing to get the u.s. marine home. >> america's former top diplomat decloined a commencement invite because protestors don't want her right. she will not be spoking in a major university. >> amid benghazi terror attack front and center in washington as house law makers try to get to the bottom of how the white house responded to the terrorist attack that took the hives of four americans in september 11th, 2012. and another panel, issuing a subpoena for secretary of state john kerry to answer questions about the white house's response not only in the initial days after the attack but the months that follow.
many republican law makers believe that the president misled the people. they told fox news earlier today that the administration is playing games with their investigation. >> all of this could have been resolved a yearing on, they are slowly releasing documents and with holding documents we are fighting the battle. get it resolved and move on. >> meanwhile democrats in congress said the moves to investigate benghazi is a political stunt. senate majority leader harry reid calling the investigation a waste of money and time. but right now the hunt for answers will go on. >> reporter: former national security admitted he made
talking po that conflicts with the the white house. >> did you change a tax to the talking points. nmaybe, i don't remember. >> i don't remember. dowd, it is like two years ago. >> dude, it is what we are talking about. >> we are talking about editing talking points that's what bureaucrats. >> it is scripted. >> and that and the four year release of the ben rh odes e-mail. >> it shoes a line of thinking that was protecting the president and state department. you have to remember that the president is involved in this. he is talking about a video in the united nations and so this is a smoking gun that is locked and loaded. >> harry reid blasted the decision, saying for the republicans to waste the time
and money instead of focusing on the middle-class is a bad decision. secretary of state john kerry spokesman lambasted the entire focus. >> i am confident that what the republicans allege that there was a attempt by the administration to cover up or spin what happened is 100 percent false. >> we are still not getting documents as we requested. and we asked them to turn over the documents we requested. when will we get all of the documents? >> a recent fox nows poll skoin- 21 percent believe that the wheat whites trying to cover up what happened in benghazi rather than being open and transparent. >> fox news doper. benghazi, white house cover- up
revealed by blet bear. secretary of state john kerry urging russia to withdraw the insurgents. speaking to the russian counterpart by phone while traveling to the congo today. russia denies allegations of unrest. prorussia insurgents releasing international observer ares held hostage in the city. the militant's leader ordered their release because of bleed street battles that are breaking out. here's more from ukraine. >> molly, the only bit of good nows was the release of the international observers. they were in good spirits. >> reporter: it comes as the ukranian military is stepping up the effort against the pro russian mill at this timeiants
it was a fight against the insurgies and now this country is on the verge of civil war. ukranian army personnel carriers moved in the town and overtaking checkpoints and a government building that was occupied. they were not able to push their way in the main strong hold where separatist and mill littias are dug in. violence is spreading to the key port city of oshg desza. 30 plus people died and many injured in running street battles between riot police and pro russian separatist. and pro russians ended up in a building and the building was in flames. the ukranians blame russian military officers for sparking the violence. and the russia calls the crack down and said it is a crime and
said ethic russians are besieging the kremlin begging for help and protection. the fear is it would come in the form of 40,000 troops invading this part of the country. molly back to you. >> leland vittert thank you. >> and the nba appointing a ceo to super vise the la clipper's operation amid new pressure for donald sterling to sell the time. donald sterling said he should have paid off his alleged mistress who recorded him making racial remarks and now she is speaking out for the first time, disputing that sterling is a racist. dom nick is in the west coast newsroom. how is the nba explaining the move to appoint a ceo. >> reporter: it is coming in
the past hour or so. the nba excutive vice-president of communication putting out this statement. let me read it to you. the best way to insure the stability of the team in a difficult situation is to quickly to install a ceo to over so the clipper's operation. the process of identifying that individual is underway. it is a active separation and wrestling the operational control out of the hands of donald sterling and in the hands of somebody else and dramatic and unexpected. >> what is she saying in the new interview. >> reporter: she tried to avoid the press and decided to a pore with barbara walters on the 20- 20 program. she believes he is not a racist but out of touch with the world.
>> he is from a different generation than i am and brought up to believe that. segregation and whites and blacks and. >> and a partnerly it was not the first time they had conversations like this. she has hours of other recordings and she would have these conversations in an attempt to help him realize he was prejudice. >> i wanted to get him to so what he was doing to me and to himself. a lot of the times, i would overemphasize and be cynical because he just didn't get it. he couldn't understand my view or the views of those around us. >> reporter: she said he should apologize and doesn't know whether he will. one magazine managed to speak to him. all he would say, i should have
paid to shut her up. >> andom nick thanks. >> the la clippers face the golden state warriors in game seven of the nba series. the first leg of the triple crown is in the books. we have a winner in the kentucky derby. >> from the back of the pack and coming up. taking second and california shines bright in the kentucky derby. >> congratulations to california chrome. the horse was a favorite to win the derby in the fifth consective victory and next up. one 39th. >> and she is america's former top diplomat. rice will decloin the invitation to give the commencement address following a voke will protest by a small group of students and a va hospital under fire for
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common side effects include skin redness headache, diarrhea, vomiting, and increase in psa. ask your doctor about axiron. our nation's former top diplomat said she will not goift commencement address in rutgers, new jersey. former secretary of state condoleezza rice declining an invitation from the group a small group led a sit in demonstration saying she was partially responsible for the iraq war. rice was set to receive an honorary degreechlt rice said they would not uninvite secretary rice but she backed out so the students could enjoy their graduation distraction free. >> it is a distraction for the
university committee. as a professor in stanford university and a academic office i embrace the purpose of the commencement ceremony and unwilling to detract from it in any way. in the meantime former secretary of state hillary clinton is receiving the state of illinois's highest honor tonight. governor pat quinis presenting secretary clinton with the award. she grew up outside ofzh chicag governor quinsaid she deserved for her service. 's basketball coach is also being honored. >> a scandal in a va hospital. the facility at phoenix under fire. they are under investigation for trying to hide records of people
under their care. the whistle blower said she had to do it because the evidence was being destroyed. elizabeth prann has news from washington. >> reporter: hi, molly, three officials including the head of the face fist in phoenix veterans affair are temporarily out of a job as investigators work to see if 40 former servicemen died waiting for care. the department of veteran a fares released a statement that the employees were placed on leave. accusations are at least 1600 sick veterans waited month it is to see a physician. dr. sam fot said the hospital is understaffed and underfunded. that is similar to that of dr. kathryn mitchell.
she described an environment of intim edition against anyone who challenged hospital leadership. she provided a list with records showing that the hospital used a secret list to hide the long wait times. >> cross the country, physician after physician tried to speak up for patient safety care issues and gotten retaliated against by having proficiencies dropped and removed. >> law makers threatened a subpeona for the records if they don't comply. phoenix facility officials say they invite the inspector general to investigate. molly, back to you. thank you. general motors announcing another recall. pulling tens of thousands of vehicles off of the road and still trying to recover from the last big recall. >> former president george bush
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america. he got sick in saudi arabia where he was a health care worker. >> and international observer released from captivity in ukraine and arriving in germane. violence is escalating in eastern ukraine. rescue crews searching for victims after a deadly mudslide in afghanistan. it happen in the northern province. numberous homes covered with 30 foot of mud. the people were killed instantly. 2100 people are missing but other leaders say the figure may be too high. the u.s. military said they are ready to help if called on. the mud slide hit after several days of heavy rain. snks a decorated u.s. marine serving two tours in afghanistan, sits in a mexican jail today.
andrew was arrested back on april 1st after making a wrong turn and accidentally entered mexico. he is now chained to a cot in mexico and his mother called it a nightmare. the reporter is from fox affiliate wsbn in miami has the story. >> she said her son u.s. marine sergeant feels like there is no end in sight. >> when he was in afghanistan, he was a brave committed warrior to the american cause and he was highest level of achievement and promoted to sergeant on the field. now he is defeated and demoralized and hopeless. the decorated marine serving two combat tours in afghanistan now a prisoner in mexico. >> they would not allow him to turn around.
i made a wrong turn and got lost can you let me turn around? that was not an option. >> he was soaking treatment in san diego when he got lost and made a wrong turn. he comes out of a bloipd curve and there he is in a mexican custom's lane. >> the western native and grauft cypress bay hospital may feel hopeless, his mom is trying to set up a petition hoping to get 100,000 signatures to get a response from the white house. >> i am doing everything possible and the state department is doing everything possible and reaching out to our legislators and they are doing everything possible. they need to release him back to the state so andrew can get the care he deserves as a decorated veteran under the contract of the marine corps.
>> that was a reporter. florida senator bill nelson reached out to the mexican government sosee if he could get his own cell. >> we hear about the feds monitor cell phone data. and some is closer to home and concerns about your privacy and the government's concern trying to keep you safe. >> it is not only the nsa but local police department that is raising concern about big brother. 2500 use stingray that swallows up cell phone data. they are using license plates readers that record every plate on a four lane highway at speeds of 50 miles per hour. the technology is a remarkable crime fighting tool. >> it is homicides and all kinds
of robberies. and it is an asset to us. >> wired mag zone reported that the maker of the stingray and license plates readers hold the buyers to vows of secrecy. and this prohibition is intended to prevent users from cooperating with a media outlet. >> we want police agencies to be transparent as possible. there shouldn't be going to hide here and they are using technologies that are supported widely because of the proven ability to reduce crime. >> the wired article was outdated and they needed to discuss before checking with the media. it is a common practice in the area of law enforcement technology since criminals mimic and avoid detection and capture. they raised broader questions about unreasonable searches.
last year virginia attorney general issued an opinion that said data cannot be collected unless related to a criminal case. the opinion was not binding and many retained the data for years. >> and the last legislation was passed in 1986 before the technology existed. and some defendant to arrive at and turning faster than the wheels of justice. in washington, doug mcdht kelway, fox news. >> space astronauts are soaring to great heights. two astronauts inducted in the astronaut hall of fame. shannon is the only american who served on pord of the russian space station. and jerry rice who was the 50 to fly seven shuttle migs and joined by fellow astronauts in the nasa kennedy space center
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president obama declaring a major disaster in alabama. four counts will receive aid to help with the weather. powerful storms spawned tornados and major flooding that left five people dead. the president planning to tour tornado damage next week. 15 people were killed and hundreds of homes were destroyed. a disaster was declared there. and jay johnson will visit that area tomorrow. >> one person killed when
trained smashes in a van. our top story as crow go across america. indiana, the collision happen in a railroad crossing. a man drove it around the gates in the path of the speeding train and he died at the scene. >> california. thieves use an electric stun gun and chase an armored guard. the guard suffered minor injuries. thieves may have targeted other armorred guards. >> there is a risk but they are trained and unfortunately it happens time to time. >> the officers found the cash bag but the suspects are on the run. >> in new york. a concrete wall collapses and crushed three parked cars. no one was hurt. the cause of the collapse is
being investigated. california, here is something you don't see every day. a university researcher putting id bands on fourical conchicks high atop san jose city hall. >> the city is now having a naming contest for the little birds. >> people with disabilities often face a struggle getting around their own home. volunteers are hoping to change that and brake down barriers with those living with physical challenges and making a dramatic difference in their lives. >> molly, the nonprofit knows the widening of a doorway and home renovation says go a long way to give them independent they deserve. >> he's happy and he wants to do things like a five and half-year-old boy. he wants to run in puddles and
that means driving a power chair. >> and he was born with spinal muscle a trophy. ray has defoyed the odds. >> as he grew he wanted independence and we got him a power wheelchair and he grew to the point where he was hard to live and carry up and down the stairs. >> they were introduced to home fro home, a group of volunteer architects that design homes to be more accessibility and allowing those with disabilities to live freely at home. >> people stay trapped in their homes just because there are three steps in the front of their house. >> but not ray. over the course of six months, a 600 square foot extension of the add. a whole chair accessible bath rom and his room.
>> what rom is this. >> my bathroom and what do you love about it my bed. >> there is a therapy room where he conneblths to the kindergarten class and he and older brother can be boys. >> it has enhanced our quality of life not only for ray. nray is a fighter and the family said the renovation will help him to live to the fullest. >> i love the story. >> of course, molly. fox nows is america's election head quarters and 2014 midterms just months away. turn out is everything and for democrats, they are counting on big support from the base in an effort to keep control of the swaent and one key group younger voters may not be showing up to
the polls this fall. peter dossy explains. >> many of the young people who packed auditoriums to cheer on democratic candidates in the last election cycle might sit out the midterms. new numbers reveal that only 23 percent of the millienals will vote and the most enthusiastic in the 18- 29 age group is people who picked rom no. 44 percent of them man to vote compared to 35 of young obama voters. experts say the enthusiasm gap comes as young americans blame the president for the bad economy. >> he's been in office six years than older voters who might say we are recovering from president bush's economy. >> low youth participation is good nows for the gop. and those trends incrose the
odds of the republicans in the senate. there is a wide spread effort on campus and on line. >> millennials areqkrs crucial the success in 2014. it is important to get excited about our candidates ahead of 2016. if voters started at age 30 governor romney would be ndemocrats think young americans will lone up behind the candidates. >> equal rights for everybody and how women are treated and paid, democrats have an advantage and that's when the younger democrats get excited. >> politics of privacy are important to young americans as well. and the director of harvard institute. said millennials love to share things on facebook but don't like big government collecting information about them secretly.
in washington, fox news. >> peter, thank you. president george w. bush leads the fourth annual bribing ride for veterans. he was asked about his brother jeb running for the white house. and world war ii air men honored for the heroism. the whole story in case you missed it. we need it right away! we cannot let the fans down. don't worry!
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who is considering a white house run of his own? >> well, i hope he runs. he is a wonderful man. hey not telling me his plans. and you know, he will make up his mind on his own time table, and i can't accelerate it and our mother can't accelerate or decelerate it and we'll so what he does. he knows firsthand what it is like to run for president and he saw his mother and brother run and if he were to choose to run he would have no stronger supporter than me. >> jeb bush is considering a 2016 run but will not make a final decision until the end of the year. in case you missed it some of our war heroes are finally being honored after waiting more than 70 years. the air men were shot down and
captured fighting the hitler forces but denied pow status because they crash landed in sweatser land. here is more about the veterans. >> the world war ii bomb ares were shot down and landed them in internment camps in switzerland. the defense department refused to honor them with prisoner of war medals. there were rumors that they were deserters trying to avoid combat. at the time only one in four u.s. bombers in missions over germany came home safely. >> mayhem was a bomb dore who escaped from the prison camp run by naziicism thosing prison guards. >> they slipped on lois infested straws and sowage in the area and solitary confinement and
starvation and mental terror. >> a historic injustice was reversed. the eight remaining survivors out of the pow's imprisonned in switzerland were honored by the air force. >> it is the kind of courage we read about in books. their stories would not have been known without dwight ma er whose grandfather was imprisonned in the prison camp. >> to have it denied and irrespectivee?'ñ of the treatm did not so many right. >> congress revised a 1985 law on pow medals and requiring prisoners to be held in enemy territory. lieutenant was moved. his son patrick accompanied him to the ceremony.
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students watching the dangerous dive from below and 17 percent of the population in the school are junior rotc. she confesses she is glad it is over. >> i was scary to dead and i had the society right there on the edge. i was embarrassed and i had a lot of second thoughts but there is no coming back except out of the dor. the superintendant said her mission was serious to inspire kids to think big and be bold and be prepared. before we go. quick look at top stories, law makers vowing a full and complete investigation in the benghazi terrorist attack. house spoker john boehner will form i select committee and's subpeona on john kerry. condoleezza rice will not give
a commencement address in rutgers university. and california chrome wins the 140 kentucky derby, the odds on favorite to win and led from the againing to the end. up next the triple crown, the preakness in two weeks. before we go a quick remainer and tune in for original reporting tonight on the benghazi scandal. judge ja nine will focus on the news and the committee formed by republicans and immediately after, don't miss fox nows reporting, benghazi, white house cover up revealed, anchored by bret baier. that is how the fox reports this saturday may 3rd. i am molly lion, thanks for watching, huckabee starts now.
tonight on huckabee, denoil. >> the documents released are explicitly about the broader areas separate from the attack on benghazi. >> dismissal. >> benghazi, benghazi, benghazi, why aren't we talking about something else. >> conspiracy theorys by the republicans and this one turned out to be bogus. >> where is the truth? >> we knew it was a hostile action. >> the house begins a new investigation in the benghazi attacks. >> as clipper's owner donald sterling fi
wall's ice cream to give drivers a tasty treat. instead of a ticket. up next, the bad. thieves stealing ussain bolt's cleats out of a museum in bolt. the sneakers are worth $30,000. finally the ugly. an all-out brawl happening on a live jordanian tv show as guests demolished the set. >> oh my gosh. "fox & friends" starts now. good morning. it'sç thursday, may 8, 2014. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they are vicious criminals accused of killing off an entire village and kidnapping hundreds of little girls. nearly every government agency calls them terrorists, but hillary clinton's state department says don't use the "t" word. >> and the latest insult to our veterans. they wait longer than anybody else when they're
sick and desperately need care. and the fallout? >> if they become cynical about that, we're not going to have people show up and volunteer for the kind of rigor we put them through, theç service in uniform. >> he's right. a shocking report coming up ahead. >> shark attack. ♪ ♪ >> yes, music aside, the moment a great white mistakes a boat for a chew toy. another reason to stay on land. mornings, according to everybody we talk to, are better with friends. >> it's sean hannity here. you're watching my good friends, elisabeth, steve and what's his name? >> brian. >> sean just left the building about five minutes ago. >> sometimes i stay up super late and i -- >> later on we're going to
discuss the craziness that happened at the conclusion of brian'sç birthday. it's been written on the blogs. this fine young lady went crazy yesterday. it was a birthday celebration no one will ever forget and we'll tell you all about it. >> i have two things to show, something the crew gave me and something you gave me, which we have to review. the look in your eye at the end of your show is something i still can't get over. i called keith ablow. i said try to make sense of this keith. >> wait until you hear about it. this is really something. we've with been telling you about this terrorist group called boko haram out in afrhsa, how they killed an entire village. in the last couple of weeks they have kidnapped 300 young girls. they're going to sell them into slavery. they burned a bunch of boys. they burned down a village. it's all bad. and now word is because we did not place them on the terror list of officially
known terrorist groups, it is going to be harder to go after them. and who exactly made sure that they were not placed on the terror list? hillary clinton. >> she has enough going on. this can't be added to the list. question as well, can she cover this on twitter? she tweeted this week with the hash tag bring our girls back. >> that brought a lot of attention to this. everyone is lauding her saying isn'tpá great. >> and the rights of women and young girls, those are pillars of what she wanted to accomplish in her time at the state department. but right here what she didn't actually tweet, and perhaps because it was over 140 characters, was the fact that her own state department did not place boko haram on the list of terrorist organizations which would have forbidden authority to increase security to them, increase assistance to nigerian security forces in nigeria and perhaps could have
saved these girls earlier. >> here's the statement. it says there was a concern. and the reason why the state department did not do it, there was a concern thatç putting boko haram on the foreign terrorist list would be in fact, raise its profile, give it greater publicity, help with its recruitment and drive more assistance in its direction. there's all types of theories about how to deal with islamic extremists, which this group is, and they are listed as an al qaeda affiliate. so i don't think giving them additional publicity and credibility might be the number h-p one priority on the surface, especially the f.b.i. called me, the c.i.a. is on my voice mail, all these people are doing it. if you do it and you're in the state department, i feel pretty good i have good backing in washington. >> she did not take that advice. >> mr. carson's explanation on how it would raise their profile notç only with all of us but the bad guys as
well, that is crazy. it is audacious for hillary clinton -- keep in mind, and there are some of the people from that boko haram organization. for hillary clinton now to over the last couple of days to talk about how bad they are, given the fact that she could have done something a couple of years ago and did not and the fact that her big initiative last week was to help women and girls, there is a little hypocrisy going on. >> what is the theory if you continue to say it does not exist it won't be there? this once again proves that is not the case. >>ç we're sending people over there now. it is going to be a lot harder. even china has responded. >> we're sending 20 people over and it sounds like without guns. >> if anyone can, we can. but this is, again, something that was a spark early become full flames now. >> she's got a lot of on
her plate. yesterday she was here in new york city and sat down with robin roberts of abc news, and she was at the ford foundation, and she was asked about that pesky benghazi thing. you know those darned republicans, they keep bringing it up. here's what she had to say about answering all the questions regarding benghazi. listen. >> of course there are a lot ofç reasons why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided, some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. that's their choice. and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> darned republicans. >> so as lindsey graham says if she doesn't want to come and answer the questions, then she shouldn't run for president because there's going to be a lot of people asking the same questions in small towns in new hampshire and
big towns in florida. >> whenç asked why, and provide the explanation for the deaths of, vicious murders of four americans there in benghazi, she didn't want to be there. susan rice was sent with talking points, with a narrativ. that's where you get that quote of saying if she can't handle that, if she can't handle looking at the american people and telling the truth, how dare she consider herself qualified? >> trey gowdy is going to head up the benghazi select committee. he says he is going to call her. he has been receiving death threats as well. he said as long as they're not for my wife, i can handle them, as a former prosecutor. we want to know regarding benghazi, when will you be satisfied? what is it you want to get out of it? is it just for it to be over? is it to finally know about the security lapses or the connection with the whiteç house and it looks like a conspiracy coverup? e-mail us. facebook us. tweet us. >> or is it just that you
want these guys killed or captured. >> the families lost their loved ones that day, at least for them the truth shouldn't be so hard to get. >> heather nauert will be delivering the news. >> i've got a horrible fire to tell you about that police believe was intentionally set. there are new developments on this story. was someone trying to kill a famous tennis player? investigators trying to figure out who set the fire to james blake's house in tampa that left four people dead? and did theyç know that he was not home at the time? that he was renting out his mansion? dramatic 911 calls were released. listen. >> i was walking my dog and the house exploded. oh my god! >> calm down and take a deep breath. >> it is just so horrible. >> police say there were four victims in the house, two parents and their two teenage children. they were brutalized before the fire was set.
this home is in an exclusive area known for its heavy security in the tampa area. we'll keep you posted. new overnight, the country of uruguay is offering to take six gitmo prisoners, but there is a bit of a catch here. the country's president says he will take these terror suspects only ifç washington agrees to let them live free. no response from the white house just yet. the president of uruguay is set to meet with president obama on monday. will lois lerner face prosecution? that's the big question this morning after the former head of the i.r.s. was held in contempt. the vote in the house was 231-187, all republicans voted in favor as well as several democrats. lerner is being held in contempt for refusing to answer questions about the i.r.s. targeting of conservative groups oefrp their proposed tax-exempt status. oklahoma city thunder'sç russell westbrook and m.v.p. kevin durant plan to
wipe out basketball. those were not the only lights going off. just before half time the arena lights went out. 2002 teams playing the final 27 seconds of the half in the dark. finally about halfway through the third quarter the lights went back on. oklahoma wins 112-101. those are your headlines. didn't look like people were too nervous about either. >> that's called panic. >> it was half the stadium. they had to use hand signals instead of electronics to get the plays in. >> they all came out with coal miner hats. >> a little distracting. ten minutes after the hour. let's change gears and talk about something you're quiteç passionate about. that's the state of the v.a. right now. it turns out that if you look at the average that has to get medical care,
about 26 minutes if we walked into the e.r. it's two times longer than that if you are a veteran of service and waiting in a v.a. hospital. >> right. startling information, an accusation that 40 veterans died as a result of waiting in the hospitals. the v.a. department didn't get to them. and those lists thatç were destroyed providing the path to death when it comes to those that have given their life so bravely for this nation. so why is this the case? really it's about a promise that's made. >> 23 veterans throughout the country they say at least have lost their lives waiting for medical care. >> the government is not being forthcoming with statistics on this so "the washington times" took a look. they reviewed eight veterans affairs inspector general reports. it shows the average wait at v.a. e.r.'s can be ten hours. ten hours for the vets to
wait. jim nickolson who used to run veterans affairs says this is awful. >> the real serious term is young americans who we depend on to enlist, men and women who come into our armed services, we have a compact with them that we're going to take care of them if they're hurt while serving urbgs and that's the -- serving us and that's the v.a.'s job, if they become cynical about that they are not going to show up for the rigor we put them through to show up in uniform. >> by the way, the guy who runs it, shinseki, even though the american legion is calling for him to go, also a number of republicans are saying he's got to resign, he says i'm not goingç anywhere. and the white house says we're standing behind him. he's doing a great job. >> jeff miller, who chairs the committee on house affairs says this proves
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it happened in 2011. we show it all the time. it's a prime example of wasteful spending. the group citizens against government waste highlights all kinds of outlandish federal spending inç its annual congressional pig book which is now out. here to take us through this year's porkers is the president of citizens against government waste. we finally for the first time after years of efforts have yielded the booking of a mascot called pig foot. pig foot, wave to your audience. all right. or not. whatever you choose. there you go. tom, let's get to it. pork pick number one, and play along, pig foot, $90 million to upgrade the a1a1 tank. the problem? >> the army wants to wait three years. 2,000 of those tanks sitting in the desert in california unused, and they are susceptible to i.e.d.'s, however we're
still usingç them. they need to modernize the whole tank system, the whole fleet. so they don't want to do anything right now. the congress, where these are being built, wants to keep the money going. >> so who wins? congress? >> well, the members that think the defense department is there just to create jobs feel good about it, but it's not doing anything to improve national security. >> get ready for this pig foot because we have to throw out $2.6 million all part of the denali commission that even obama identified as something that could be cut. >> there are agencies that deep indicate theç work of the denali commission. $2.6 million this year, almost $300 million in earmarks. >> that stayed. pig foot only threw out
about three bucks. symbolism. the last one is the pacific coast recovery salmon fund. it seems to recover salmon is admirable. what's the problem? >> this is money added on by senator patty murray, a member of the appropriations committee. the grouper in florida, lobsters in pha*eup, -- maine, they probably deserve help too. but we don't want them to create new programs to helpç them. just another example of pork. we found more than 109 projects worth $2.7 billion in this year's appropriations bill. >> you have this book out. over the years of having done this, do you see it making a dent on the consciences of those in washington spending the money. >> we have found items, the congress says there are not any. this is way down from the record, $29 billion in earmarks in 2006. the year before we found
14,000 individual earmarks. we're down to just over 100 earmarks worth less than $3ç billion. we're concerned people will keep doing it again. harry reid said the other day let's start earmarking again. we've got to watch them. >> pig foot, i've heard a lot about you but to see you in person is almost a thrill. thank you. tom shatz, good job. go get his book. let me tell you what's straight ahead. speaking of your money, congress can live without a pay raise but there is one thing they cannot live without. having their cars paid for by you. we'll explain. does your mom always tell you not to sit too close to the tv. is that really a health issue? we'll separate mom advice from fact advice with dr. marc siegel. withç mother's day a few days away, he's a brave man.
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we've got headlines for you. colorado lawmakers just approved the first official banking system for pot shots. until now shops could not anksusiness with bigç because marijuana is illegal under federal law. remember? and remember last week when members of congress bragged about blocking their latest pay raise? turns out there was a catch. they removed the amendment that would have blocked their monthly allowance for car payments. bet you didn't know about that. >> because i said so, that's why. did your mom always say that? >> in honor of mother's day this weekend, we are finding out the truth. this is such a dangerous segment. about all the health advice
you remember her doling out while growing up. >> here with mommy myths, dr. marc siegel from our medical a team. good morning to you. >> i know brian's mom and i'm going to speak directly to her. >> the thing about brian's mom right now, she is probably sitting close to the television to watchç brian. when we were growing up, we were told by moms and grandmas don't sit too close to the television. it will screw up your eyes. >> maybe the original tv's from skwrefplt -- general electric caused too much eyestrain. now no. kids that are sitting close to the tv may be showing they need glasses. >> right. that was me. >> pay attention. but the tv is not causing it. >> what about the iphone when i see kids looking like this? >> it is not causing a problem. it can cause eyestrain temporarily. goes away ifç you rest your eyes. >> this one brian wants to be true.
does gum stay in your stomach for seven years if you swallow it? >> that's another myth. it actually gets digested. it's the part that doesn't get absorbed. it's like vegetables. it goes through. it doesn't get absorbed. like celery. it doesn't attach to the stomach walls. you pass it out. >> what about about the gum when you bite on it, it squirts into your mouth? soda will settle your stomach? snacking will ruin your dinner. sugar willç make you hyper. is that a fact? >> soda is bad for your stomach. my mom used to say have a coke, you'll feel better. no. it's acidic. it will aggravate your stomach. sugar bloats you. >> what about the other
one? >> he read them too fast. >> snacking will ruin your dinner. that's true. >> no, it's not true. if you actually have in between like some seeds or some nuts, something to regulate -- >> seeds? >> something to regulate your glucose, a little cereal. something in between. you want to snack on crackers, you want to snack on nuts. fruit isç great to have. fruit is great in between. just don't load up on candy bars. >> sugar makes you hyper? >> i'm calling that a fact. science says i am wrong but i'm positive that's true. there was a study from yale that if you take kids in the morning and give them a lot of sugar it will interfere with their attention span. science, i want you to catch up with mom on this one. >> then you're wrong about the snacking fills you up because it does. >> i'm not wrong about
that. >> time-out. >> the only one that is a fact is that last one. sugar makes you hyper. >> what just happened? i don't even know. >> you read themç all at once. >> don't get over the fact that you just dissed your own study. >> i'm trying to say that mom is sometimes right. if i don't give her one fact here, they're all going to write in. >> dr. marc siegel, thank you very much. >> straight ahead, a chaotic crime scene gets even crazier when this happens. [screaming] >> wait until you hear who is behind the wheel of that car. >> the government needs to tax you more to repair the country's highways. whatç happened to the stimulus? stuart varney says the money is all gone. good morning. all rise. >> happy birthday not to
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always love my mama" has to do with this picture. it is mother's day weekend. they said bring in throw back thursday pictures. this isç the first selfie i did with my son peter. back in the old days when you did a selfie you had to wait to get the pictures back from the drug store to find out if it turned out. >> you get double. >> look at him drooling on my sunglasses. >> oh, that is precious. >> who's that? >> heather nauert. >> mother's day of course is this sunday. i sent in a picture to honor my mother. >> very nice. >> there's maria, i believe, at graduation. >> looks like it could be. >> do we have clarification on that? >> any way, because it is throw back thursday, hash tag tbt, we would love to see your throw back pictures.
we have inç the past given you assignments. send to us whatever you want to. e-mail us at friends@foxnews.com. >> are you saying you gave assignments and they let you down? >> no. we asked for prom pictures, baby pictures. >> we don't want to coach you. later we're going to find out the story behind maria's picture. steve: i want to nope who who -- >> i want to know who those individuals are. >> i'm guessing it was his graduation. i've got news to bring you. it is sad news coming out of houston. there was a real chaotic; @fc @ scene that erupted yesterday at a murder scene in texas. there was a suspected killer's father who plowed his car through a crowd of people. take a look at this. [screaming] >> you can hear the
witnesses, the onlookers and even the journalists screaming as they run for their lives. there were about a hundred people gathered out there as cops were investigating that crime scene. cops arresting that driver after he tried to jump from his moving car. neighbors say he simply snapped after he was taunted by a member of the victim's family. >> the pilot who crashed into a house in colorado walked away. we told you about that story earlier. he actually used to live in thatç house that he crashed into. how bizarre that? 52-year-old brian beach was towing a banner in the sky when the plane lost power and then crashed into that home. the homeowners were not there at the time. certainly a good thing. beach says it wasn't until he ran around to the front of the house that he looked at it and realized he used to live there. it is going to cost you more to ship things with fedex. there will be new prices that will be based on size and not weight. here's the idea. to hit customers who ship all those bulky packages,
shipping a 32 pack of toilet paper will goç from $10 to $31. mailing shoes will go from $8 to $9. you know those ecommerce sites you lose, they may take a big hit but will pass that cost on to you. they will probably need a much bigger boat to deal with this one. ♪ >> that was actually a great white shark going after a tiny inflatable raft kind of like a chew toy. filmmakers happened to be on that raft shooting near south africa. everyone on board that boat made it back to land safely. it kind of reminds you of jaws. it comes right up. >> yesç but that is fakey. that is real. >> every time i think it's real. they took it out.
in the universal they took it out. the shark finally got one guy. >> i can't even play sharks in the room. >> welcome back to confessional thursday. heather, thank you very much. 23 minutes before the top of the hour. extreme weather making its way across the country in central kansas. a severe thunderstorm brought powerful winds that were so strong, they threw train cars right off the track. >> that's inç mcpherson, kansas. two people were on board at the time. nobody was hurt. maria molina is out on the streets of new york city where currently it is a little drizzly but p's not the kind of rain we had last night. >> it was pouring last night across parts of the northeast. here in new york city we're going to be dealing with on and off showers not only today but also over the next few days. we have a little bit of a stretch here across the northeast of unsettled weather but across the
plains, that's where we can see possible severe weather. take a look at current temperatures. this is one of the signs that we could be seeing strong to severe storms. in kansas city, you're currently in the 70's. it's very early in the morning. you're in the 60's in chicago. later this afternoon those temperatures are going to continue to warm and we could be seeing severe weather anywhere from texas up intoç minnesota. that area shaded in red across iowa and southern minnesota, that's where the storm predictions think we could see possible long track tornadoes. that is a big concern. if you live in des moines, southern part of minnesota, make sure you have a way to get the warnings today. let's head back inside. >> maria thank you very much. did you know that every time you fill up your gas tank, part of what you pay goes to the government. that's right, 18 cents per gallon is sent to the highway trust fund which is supposed to help build and keep our nation's roads safe and up to date. >> i thought our infrastructureç is falling
apart. we have no financing. except is now the obama administration says these funds are set to run out in august. how can that be? >> what happened to the money we gave during the stimulus? stuart varney has the answers. >> spent it. borrowed more, spent it. we're now out of money by august. we have no more money left to rebuild the nation's infrastructure and highways. >> where did the money go? it obviously didn't go to the highways. >> we don't have a full accounting of whether we got our money's worth. we run out of money come august to rebuild the highways so guess what? what do you think we're going to do?ç borrowing more is an option. >> just raise taxes. >> thank you, steve. >> here's the option. you raise the federal gasoline tax from 18 cents a gallon, you add on 10 to
15 cents per gallon. that's a short-term fix that's what the c.b.o. says you need to give us $18 billion a year for the next ten years. raise taxes. that's interesting because that taxes everybody. everybody who buys a gallon of gas, you pay that tax. this is not tax the rich. this is tax everybody who drives. >> it's people at the lower end of the food chain who hurt the most. you've citedç this in the past, the day that george bush left the white house, i think the price of gasoline a gallon was $1.85. >> that is correct. >> now it is $3.50 a gallon? >> no. the average price now is $3.65 to $3.70. long term there is the option of bringing back tolls on interstate highways. bring back those tolls. we haven't seen that in like 40, 50 years.
bring them back to raise money. or tax drivers for every mile they drive. not every gallon of gas they buy but every mile they drive. >> sending this back to the american people over a mistake. >>ç absolutely. >> people react. are you going to do that? going to drive less? that mean vacation stops are going to be less. people are going to need less tires, less maintenance. everything is link to link to link. they don't see down the road. >> cats and dogs will be living together. the end of the world is nigh. >> you are minimizing my point. >> this is the first time you've quoted "ghost busters." stu varney check him out on fox business today, 11:00. >> coming up, do you want your 14-year-old daughter read[ng porn in school? this dad, he sure doesn't.
>> what are you charging me with? >> disorderly conduct. >> that dad looking out for his daughter was arrested. he joins us next. >> speaking of porn, we have no time to finish that. an e.p.a. worker not fired but rewarded. ♪ ♪
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a father shows up to his school board meeting to express concerns about a risque novel that his daughter who is 14 years old was required to read. watch what happens there. >> what are you charging me with? >> disorderly conduct. >> disorderly conduct.
[inaudible] >> my arm is messed up. my arm is messed up. disorderly conduct. >> joining us now to share his story is that father there in cuffs, williamç bair. good morning. what was your reason for being at that meeting in the first place? >> very simply, the school basically dropped the book on us monday last week, and wednesday we saw some passages in there that were very troubling and they really wouldn't address it. the principal, i wanted to meet with him immediately, and for whatever reason, maybe a scheduling problem, we didn't meet. at that point i realized this was a much more significant issue than just my daughter. i knew at some point we could just not read the book. it's not like they were going to force us technically to read the book, but it was required reading for ninth grade. the story got out and it was all over the papers. and basically what happened
then is i met with the principal monday, this pastç monday, and i asked him about somebody reading the passage so we all know what we're talking about at the school board meeting that was scheduled for this past monday evening. and he didn't want to read it. he said it had to be put in context and all the nuances have to be communicated. i said put it in context, talk about the themes and then read it. finally he, the president at gill ford high school told me in private, he said i don't feel comfortable reading it. my retort was if you don't feel comfortable reading it, why are you requiring my 14-year-old daughter to read it. it is pageç 313 of the book 19 minutes. from my perspective it should not be in the hands of a 14-year-old. if other parents want them to read it, i don't have a problem with this. at the same time i don't need this to be thrust upon my family.
i feel like they violated my family and it continues. >> your daughter is 14 years old. the egg was already out of the shell. it is not as though there was a permission slip that went home. i would have read the material. most parents have a right to do that. i actually couldn't sit here on this program and read it verbatim because it is so explicit, definitely not fit for children, uncomfortable and graphic to say the very least. >> elisabeth, i was going to say that the editor ofç the local paper basically said -- and he's also the mayor of the town, ed engle said in quotation in the lincolnia sun, pretty much no paper in the country could print something like this. the idea that this is not fit to print in a daily paper, but the school board thinks it is appropriate to have this required reading.
even if it were required reading, if that is what the community determined, that's okay. but give us notice. real notice, realç consent. the school, the principal admitted that, he said there was notice in the past and now i find out there was no notice in the past. they said there was notice in 2007 when it was issued and i would like to see that notice because it was probably kind of no-notice notice. >> we hear so much about the need for fathers to step in and what happens when they don't. bill o'reilly has been greatly vocal about the effects of when a dad is not in the picture, how it can lead to devastating results, particularly young women. you as a father step in, you want to say my kid should have the right about reading this. do you feel your first amendment rights were null and void there, completely erase stph-d >> i totally think there is a first amendment isqu and my legal team will be
looking into this. i'm an attorney as well. i was licensed in new jersey for 20 years. there are serious issues here. there is no question this was the quintessential public forum, a school board. and they -- every indication is that two-minute rule was implemented just they don't answer any questions. they refuse to answer questions. there is no accountability. if you meet withç somebody, it is in private. no cameras, no people, no accountability. there's no question there is a first amendment violation here. they compounded it by arresting me for pointing out that it was a first amendment violation. now i'm being prosecuted by the state. i mean, there's violation after violation. rape.
this violation by the state, as far as i'm concerned -- >> i did read that, sir. we're going to stay on this. please let us know what's to come. we wish your daughter well. she's 14. stay with us here. thanks. >> thank you very much. i do a lot oresearch on angie's list before i do any projects on my home. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.
president obama is sending a small team of u.s. military and law enforcement to nigeria to help recover almost 300 kidnapped school girls. the president says it's an opportunity for the world to bring down a terror organization. but judge napolitano says what about that? he joins us live right now. do you thi'k it's a good idea we get involved there? >> i don't think it's good idea that we get involved in nigeria. i don't think it's in our national security interest.
i think it establishes a terrible precedents. i say this with my heart bleeding, figuratively, over what's happened to these young women. now, i don't know if the government of nigeria is behind this, is afraid of these people, or is protecting them. but if we enter nigeria absent an invitation from the government, it's the legal equivalent of an invasion, whether we send the nypd, special ops. the president knows that. i honestly think, one of the rare times i'm going to say, this the president's heart is in the right place, but he has to think twice before he uses american power to solve what is basically a domestic police issue in that country. >> i saw on television yesterday, there are a number of democrat congressmen who are calling for the president to go and doñi whatever it takes, drones, whatever. where does that come from? >> i think it comes from their heart's aching over this situation where these young
women, god only knows what's happened to them, absolutely no equity, no benefit, no argument on the side of the bad guys and alt equity, all the sympathy is on the side of the women. but you have to think of the legal and geopolitical consequences of entering another country without a treaty justifying it, without the law justifying it and against the wishes of the authorities there. it's going to have unintended consequences we don't want to live with. >> it was big news yesterday. lois lerner was found in contempt of congress. we want to talk to you a little bit about the ramification of that. can you stick around? >> of course. >> more with judge napolitano coming up. also straight ahead, we're going to be talking about that and you saw brian's big birthday bash on the show yesterday. there it is right there. so what happened after the show and that cake? oh, my goodness. okay. that's not the crazy part. the crazy part comes later. stick around
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good morning. today is thursday, may 8. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they are vicious criminals accused of killing off entire villages and the white house wanted them designated as terrorists. but hillary clinton said don't use the t word. now the fallout of that decision ahead. and remember when president obama said this about the irs. >> no mass corruption? >> not even mass corruption. not even a smidgen of corruption. >> tell that to congress, the house. now charging lois lerner with contempt. is jail the next stop for her? and if you think things got heated on our set, wait until you see this. that's why we don't have a desk. what led to the table flipping fight seen around the world on
that tv show. this tv show has a motto and the motto is mornings are better with friends. >> this is bob eubanks from the newlywed game. you're watching fox "friends." whoopie. it's my favorite word. >> that is a good word. whoopie. >> you know what? i don't think lois lerner was saying whoopie yesterday. it was bad news for the administration. bipartisan households her in contempt of congress and they have, in a separate resolution, urged the department of justice to appoint a special prosecutor. republicans are hoping this would be a way for her to finally answer their questions about the targeting of conservatives. there were a number of democrats who voted against their own party. so this was bipartisan. >> one of the biggest things to happen is the judge is refusing tother sit-in. >> the judge here to help us with the legal agele and whether
she'll turn up in jail. what also is significant is some democrats say i have a probable with her taking the fifth and not transparent with the irs. >> politically it's significant that the democrats did this. so it doesn't look like it's one party ganging up on her because in reality, what she is accused of doing, accused of doing is abusing authority and tampering with the first amendment. that cuts both ways. nobody can favor that, republican or democrat. it's very complicated where she is legally right now. the house cannot prosecute her. the house can only ask the united states attorney for the district of columbia, a federal appointee, an obama appointee who works for attorney general holder, to prosecute her. >> the irony is that holder is quite familiar with being held in contempt. >> he was held in contempt by the house for the earn ma in which he subpoenaeded to subpoenas over fast and furious. this same u.s. attorney said i'm not going to prosecute my boss, not 'cause he's my boss, but because he has a claim of executive privilege.
he discussed these documents with the president. lois lerner does not have that claim. if she makes it, if she says i discussed that with the president, whole new ball game because you saw what he told bill o'reilly. not a smidge or smidgen. i'm not sure what he used -- of corruption. >> you're saying it would imply there was -- >> coordination between the irs and the president of the united states. her only defense is her statement, i didn't break the law. i followed irs regulation, is not a waiver, a giving up of her right to remain silent. candidly, case law goes both ways. some case law says you invoke your right to remain silence, you can't say anything else. if you say anything else, you've given up the right to remain silence. in other cases, a general denial is a general denial. >> if she didn't break the law, republicans say, she should have testified in fronts of them. what's extraordinary is it all started with an apology. out of nowhere she planted a
question and said i'm sorry about this. >> it's an effort to make herself look good. remember the movies where the mobsters used to read a statement, i'm not going to testify 'cause my lawyer told me i have a right to remain silent? that's what you have to do. you have to be sigh lentz persistently. if you say anything above that, you get yourself in trouble, like she did. i don't know where it's going to go, but my guess is that the u.s. attorney who refused to prosecute his boss will refuse to prosecute her. >> you know with a? darrell issa, who heads up the oversight committee on the house, a republican from california, he tweeted this out yesterday: unless president asserts executive privilege, there is no precedent for the u.s. attorney for dc to do anything but pursue this criminal case. #irstargetsing. >> that's a correct statement of the law. but we're dealing with a very, very, very political department of justice that will find some way to protect its own.
if they prosecute this lady, the statement that the president made to bill o'reilly will be germane to that prosecution. >> this is something that she does, cross party lines. everybody should be concerned about get to get bottom of the truth and admitting, at least giving some information out there. and nancy pelosi missed the boat. she was at a fund-raiser, but there were six democrats who voted for this, voted to hold lois lerner in contempt. >> you have a lot of purple and you have a lot of red states. >> keeping with the colors there. blue dog democrats there basically moderate, centrist democrats who have difficult reelections and don't wants to be perceived as sticking with the party line come november. i don't blame them. part of this is congress' fault. they give the irs a little bit too much leeway to invade
people's lives and scrutinize what they say. >> between benghazi and now the irs, it looks like the white house is on defense. >> i think so. and i don't know that the president can stick with that statement he made to bill. >> all right. judge napolitano, thank you very much. >> pleasure. >> if not, we'll call bill back in and change it. what i meant. >> pleasure. >> look who is over there with the headlines today. hello, mrs. nauert. >> hi, mr. judge. great to see you. i have some news to bring you. some disturbing news. coming out of the state of florida this morning, here is the question that investigatessors are asking: why would someone want to kill a mother, a father and two teenage children in their rented mansion in a ritzy part of tampa, florida? the home was owned by former tennis star james blake, but he wasn't there at the time. he had been renting it out. investigators say there was a fire that was intentionally set and that some sort of accelerant, possibly fireworks, were used. this is the 911 call that's been
released. take a listen. >> i was walking my dog and there was a house exploded. oh, my god! >> take a deep breath. okay? >> it's horrible! >> the four victims tentatively identified as 49-year-old darren campbell, his wife, kim, and their two teenage children, collin and meghan. they were in high school together. police say the victims were brutalized before that fire was set and that home in an exclusive area known for heavy security. we'll keep you posted on developments. the islamic terror group that has been terrorizing nigeria kills once again and this time possibly as many as 300 people in a nigerian village. this as we learn former secretary of state hillary clinton fought to keep the al-qaeda-linked terror group off the state department list of official terror organizations. under clinton, the state department repeatedly refused to go after the group now responsible for kidnapping hundreds of girls.
we've been telling you a lot about that story. that refusal was despite the urging from the f.b.i., c.i.a., and more than a dozen senators and congressmen. new overnight, the country of uruguay is offering to take some prisoners at gitmo. he says he will take them if washington agrees to let them live free. no response from the white house on this yet. the president of that country is set to meet with our president on monday. what do you think of that? no, this is not an episode of jerry springer. it's just an average day in the life of jordannian television. take a look at this. yeah. that fight was over freedom of the press. the guests traded insults and then started tearing apart that table. the host then had to end the
program. keep it going. those are your headlines. >> felt like that. >> that's unbelievable. >> you know what? actually there was some tension on the set yesterday. it was -- >> on the veranda. >> it was in the after the show show. we had guy fieri on from "diners, drive-ins and dives" and he was presenting brian with a birthday cake. i don't know if you heard about it. out of nowhere, elisabeth decided in the after the show show, you were going to take that cake and destroy it -- >> i don't recall any of that. >> i don't know who was in her ear or what took over her body. >> steve doocy. >> but this woman called in her survivor training and went after me like there was no tomorrow. >> my aim was a little off. >> then as weird as that got with her running down 48th street with this cake, out of nowhere came a stranger and it just got weirder. watch. >> it does have a scent of
licorice. it has a -- >> i can't believe it! look out, people! there's a crazy lady in high heels! look out! >> who is hiding brian? >> oh, my gosh! what happened? >> rock'n'roll! >> so what happened? so elisabeth is running by and that guy just grabs the cake out of her hands and smashes it into his face. >> it wasn't his birthday. >> no, it wasn't. and then he gave you a high five, which could have broken your wrist. >> it was behind the bush. i didn't know what else to do but hi five. when in doubt, give a high five. cake everywhere. >> i went over to the guy afterwards and i said, why did
you do that? he said nobody else had. as it turns out, this guy is a prankster from the opie and anthony show. that is an image off of their instagram where he went on in the studio to describe how he screwed up your birthday. >> right. >> he took your cake. >> right. i didn't even know what was happening. i'm on radio and i see this thing pop up on tv news and all of a sudden chaos broke loose. but the look in your eye, i don't know if someone said if you don't throw this cake at him you're going to be fired. so the speed you have is incredible. >> you gave a push and a jab there and a duck. you got out of it. >> elisabeth is unbelievablably creative. she made me this for my p birthday. the whole family. what's behind? >> this is, because of your 50th birthday, we took page 50 from your book and put the
secret 6 in many places to form a 6. kilmeade goes, why a 6? because the book is number one. it should have been a one. >> yesterday during the show, i get a card from the crew. look at this. this is from the crew who i never met in person. brian, in honor of your birthday, i want to show you a side you don't often see. >> of the crew. >> they showed me the back of their heads. >> our generous side. >> this will be great. i get to hang out with the crew. good job. thanks a lot. i appreciate it. that was creative. >> what a crazy party you had yesterday. >> right. as usual the party gets better when i leave. >> i tried to find you. steve made me do it. >> i did not make you do it. she did look crazy. >> team work here. >> coming up straight ahead. this french economist getting rock star status for preaching about income inequality.
but charlie gasparino says don't listen to them and he's walking down the hall with a saunter and a stare i have not quite seen before. >> and terrorism isn't the only job on his resume. the hook-handed preacher used to run a strip club. >> hard to pick up dollar bills with that. ♪ rea ♪ brings? any questions? can i get an a, steve? yes! three a's! he brings his a-game! the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! ♪
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to hear more of michael's story, visit lyrica.com. a new book on income inequality is sending shock waves around the world. french economist, capital in the 21st century, is being embraced by the left and liberal media is off and oning over his theories. saying the most important of the 21st century. the new yorker saying, you can't afford to ignore it. and the "new york times" calling it, not just important.
it's beautiful. fox business senior correspondent, charles gas free know took a look at it. he says what about this book? >> it ain't beautiful. the last thing you want to say about this book is that it's beautiful. it's 700 pages. it's probable low the most 700 legubruius pages i ever read. karl marx in every other line. basically the world is rigged against the little guy. that income inequality is against the little guy and the only solution is socialist policy. i don't know who will be the irs here or collect the taxes. maybe the u.n. but he wants a global tax on anybody that makes more than $500,000 a year. you get taxed at 80%. >> with that global tax on people making more than half a million dollars, the juicy part
is that he would have the united nations running things. they would be the world cop. >> who would be the irs? it would have to be the united nations. so america, would have to give up its sovereignty to the united nations under this plan. >> government should adopt a global tax on wealth, progressive global tax on capital around 2%, punitive 80% on incomes above half a million dollars. also what's interesting is his call for that 80% tax rate is not to generate tax revenue. it's to level the playing field. are successful are closer, beat down to people at the othernd of the food chain. >> what his general thesis is there is no way for the poor and working class to move up because the rich have the game rigged. all they have to do is not invest in companies. they have to just invest in the
stock market and sort of make money out of the games of the stock market rather than investing in businesses to help grow, because market returns will always outpace the returns of gdp, thus the game is rigged against the people that have to live on the gains and gdp. >> all we have to do is look in our rearview mirror during the eisenhower years and jfk's administration. taxes were around, what, 85, 90% back then. it was jfk himself who said this is crazy. i got to cut them. >> right. >> and did he a little bit. reagan did a much bigger job. >> i'm not for income inequality. but let's be honest here, what he forgets and misses is that people go out and earn their money. bill gates, i don't like his politics, but he created microsoft. warren buffet created berkshire hathaway. the author makes it sound like these rich guys just happened to land -- millions of dollars happened outland in their laps. >> he's a french economist in
france. what is it, 60% of the people of france work for the federal government. socialist government. >> i have family in italy. they're alt -- all on the government dole. if you want that economy, america, read this. the "new york times" calls this beautiful, read the first ten pages and tell me how beautiful this is. you can't get it in new york. >> look at that. >> i tried to get it! >> capitalism. thanks. coming up, it's the first in the world, lawmakers in this country approve the first bank for the weed industry. so looks like the country is going to pot. plus, you know her from the hit tv show "gray's anatomy." but there is a not you don't know about sarah drew, like she's a devout christian. she's coming up next. good morning to you, sarah. good job!
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work. nobody got fired. he did get, however, an award for stellar performance. congratulations. >> wow. you know her from love life on "grey's anatomy." now sarah drew is taking on the stresses and joyce of motherhood in a new movie "moms night out." take a look. >> this is me trying not to have a panic attack. i should be happy that they're making me breakfast. instead, all i see is salmonella. everywhere. on the floor, on the counters, on my children. i'm a salmonella phobe. >> wait, that's my house! that's me! >> all of a sudden it looks like john madden -- sarah drew is here. you're watching the movie and laughing at the same time. >> yes. i relate. i relate. >> how did you get into the mind and heart of every single mom? that's exactly what we see. that's you! >> i e. know.
that is me. i read the script when my son was ten months old. i had just become a mom. i don't think i could have played this role had i not been a new mom because it is such a crazy, chaotic, beautiful, terrifying experience all at the same time. i wouldn't have been able to understand it had i not been there myself. >> the movie looks hilarious. we had your co-star, sean astin on here yesterday. this move yes is never going to make it because first of all, it's not dirty. it's loan. it's got a pro-christian message. how dare you? >> how dare we. i know. we're so offensive. >> so set the scene. you guys are frazzled. as a mom, you feel like you're being shut in, so your husband says, go out. have a good time. we'll handle things here. your husbands. >> yes, yes. so we go out for a night on the town and the husbands stay with the kids. and everything goes wrong. it is one disaster after another. there is a car chase, a biker gang gets involved, people get tased. we wind up in jail.
>> typical night for mom. >> i know, yeah. after waiting and waiting for a night out. this is the one that you get. >> this is our weekend plan. i cannot wait to do this. what's exciting is it just relates, there's a strong call to see it because of that. so many moms see it with the salmonella drawing. there was an article in glamour, i believe you talked about relationship. you say sometimes -- correct me if i am wrong -- feeling hopeless doesn't mean your situation is hopeless. you talk about a relationship hiccup that you had. >> yeah. my husband and i had a really dark time in our marriage and we realized that we really needed help. and it was the moment that we realized wed intoed help was a moments when i called my dad and i was like, i feel completely hopeless. >> your father is a pastor? >> my dad is a pastor. i always turn o him when i'm feeling at my wit has end and i
need some wisdom and guidance. he's like, honey, i'm so sorry. my heart is breaking for you. but just because you feel hopeless doesn't mean the situation is hopeless. i believe that there is a way out of this and after several months of therapy, it's just so great! it's like the healing happened and then we came out on the other side so much more in love and so much better friends. such an incredible gift. >> talking can do a lot. >> yeah. >> did you meet your husband before you had all this success? >> yes. i am so thankful that i met my husband when i did. i was so young. i was 18 and it was before anything had happened in my career and he has been my rock. my rock and the person who brings my feet back down to the ground whether i get all caught up in the crazy hollywoodness of everything. so i'm so grateful for him. he loves me for who i am at my core. not for anything that i've done out in the world.
>> you've done so much, though, in addition to this movie that opens tomorrow with the pro-family message, you're in "grey's anatomy," got the big finale coming up. what's interesting is you were telling us during the commercial that when your husband, because you've got a solid relationship now -- when your husband really wants to make an important point to you, he writes you a letter. >> he does. he does. my husband pursued me through handwritten letters. we met at a camp together. >> in the beginning. >> in the beginning when we were young. it was like in a letter, he asked for my e-mail address. in an e-mail, he asked for my phone number. on a phone call, he asked to come visit me. he was very careful and very gracious and respectful of me the whole way through. >> he's a keeper. >> he's a keeper. >> he has his own christian mingle. >> mingle of one. >> thanks for sharing that story with us. >> yeah. >> good luck with the movie. it's going to be a big hit. >> thank you.
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♪ ♪ it's throwback thursday. in honor of mother's day, this sunday, we've got a few pictures for you. guess who this is, everybody. that's my mom. i love you, mom. >> i can see your face in that. >> oh, yeah. absolutely. >> my bleached hair starts growing out, i get to her hair color. >> did you just say you bleached your hair? >> yeah, i do. >> on tv-like of you. also stephanie sent us on twitter, sent a side by side pic of her and her son doug on graduation day from ohio state in both 1993 and 2014. >> congratulations. >> her graduation ends this graduation. >> this is richard on twitter. this is a pic with his mom with
a mackerel she caught off of cape cod. >> holy mackerel! >> david sends in a picture of his mom holding him in the backyard in 1967. >> in miami. >> i assume he's now off the bottle. >> don't be so sure. >> keep those coming. we love those. mom, send in your pictures, too. you can brag. >> if you can figure out how the whole computer thing works. sometimes i have a problem. i love throwback thursday. i love it. earlier in the telecast we saw heather nauert's picture. >> there is my mom right there when i was a little kid. i got a little hard turn to make here because we've got a story about the hook-handed terror preacher on trial here in new york for terrorism. he's taking the stand for the first time in his trial. he reveals -- this is
fascinating -- that before becoming that hate preacher, he ran a strip club. he's a((uáq" of organizing a terror training camp in oregon and als supporting the taliban and al-qaeda. he faces life in prison if convicted. he also claims he had worked for mi 5. chaos erupts outside of a murder scene in texas when a suspected killer's father plows his car through a crowd of more than 100 people. look at this. a whole lot of witnesses out there. even journalists and a lot of folks there running and screaming for their lives. cops availably arrested the driver as he tried to jump from the moving car. neighbors say that he snapped after he was taunted by a member of the victim's family. we'll keep you posted on the update. the country is the first ever banking system for pot shops has now been approved by
colorado state lawmakers. until now, most of the businesses were cash only because banks rejected basic services to those companies because pot is still considered illegal under federal law. and speak of drugs, toronto crack's smoking mayor rob ford is apparently having a great time in rehab. in a new interview he says, quote, rehab is amazing. it reminds me of football camp. okay. let me keep going here. he says it's kind of like washington redskins camp he went to as a kid. what? poor thing. he checked into rehab a week after a new picture surfaced of him smoke crack in his sister's basement. you can't make this up. those are your headlines. >> you can't. is rob ford at betty ford? >> i don't know where he is. >> it doesn't sound like people who everged from betty ford are healed. >> thank you very much.
>> maria, you are standing by outside to give us a peek of what's going on weather wise. >> good morning. it is still raining here in new york city and surrounding areas in the nor east. we are going to have a couple of unsettled days here across the region. it's going to be cloudy, couple of showers will be possible here and there as we head into this weekend. i want to take you farther west. look at some of these current temperatures. this is a sign of things tocome. early this morning you're already in the 70s in kansas city and in dallas. and there is a potential for severe weather, from texas up into wisconsin and minnesota, and one of the elements of severe weather is hail. take a look at this video out of colorado, large hail that came down yesterday. that was the story as well across other parts of the plains states. hail coming down, multiple reports of tornadoes as well across colorado and unfortunately, that risk is in place yet again today. the storm prediction center has issue add moderate risk across iowa and southern minute machine where we have the potential for
tornadoes. by friday, the risk spreads from arkansas to indiana. have a we to get those warnings coming up today. let's head over to you, brian. >> let me tell you about sports. another case of thunder causing a blackout. russell westbrook, who is good and kevin durant playing lights out basketball. the pair combined for 63 points. here is the bigger story against the clippers, there was a problem with the lights. they went out. during a timeout just before half time, a power surge caused the lights to dim of the they are playing for the final 27 seconds of the half in the dark. oklahoma city was put on. best play of the day, not even the player that's on the field. watch this. it's a met game. >> look at this. beautiful. >> the miami marlins' ball boy making an incredible diving catch over the wall to snag a foul ball against the mets.
the marlins won 1-0. no word if this guy's got a contract yet or how much he's being paid. i'd double his salary. have you seen this video? a soccer match in bolivia. plenty of game out of their own. unfortunately for one of the dogs, an angry player didn't enjoy their romp. he will snatch the animal and tries to get it off the field. a ball boy, again, comes to the rescue. a bolivian ball boy at that, saving the dog and the game. great day for ball boys everywhere. time to celebrate. >> he wants to win the game. >> that's all. you can't use your hands in soccer. >> coming up on radio between 9 and noon, we'll have senator chuck grassley talk about the hands off rule. chris wallace who seems nice, i've never talked to him in person. and so many other great surprises. >> i bet that is the case. coming up here, college
professor says his own university is breaking the law by basing college admissions on race. he joins us with the shocking proof next. congress wants to cut the budget. just don't touch their car allowances. they have car allowances? we'll explain. >> rob ford says he likes rehab because it reminds me of a football camp he went to as a kid. his parents said, that was also rehab. ♪
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a pay raise. bad news, they couldn't part with their monthly allowance covering their lease on their cars. the cost to taxpayers? nearly a half million dollars a year. and it's going to cost you more to ship bulky things with fed-ex. from 10.07 to 13.81. you might want to get your own toilet paper. elisabeth? >> thanks, brian. this college professor says his own university is breaking the law by basing college admissions on race instead of merit. that's illegal in california and the supreme court just ruled laws like that are okay. that ucla professor has proof and is putting it in a book. he joins us now. good morning, sir. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> so what exactly did you find six years ago and why are you bringing this to the fronts again now? >> let's see. probably eight years ago is when it all began, 2006. i was on the faculty oversight
committee for admissions at ucla. during that year, there was a significant drop in african-american admissions, like 20%. ucla implemented a new system which is called the wholistic system. then after implementing that system, african-americans admissions skyrocketed. almost doubled that year. and meanwhile, at the same time, they were touting the system, the reason it would increase african-american admissions, because it takes account of their socioeconomic disadvantages. but the strange thing i noticed, i was getting data 'cause i was on the committee, was that the other socioeconomically disadvantaged groups like latinos and vietnamese, which may be more socioeconomically disadvantaged among the applicants at ucla, their admission rates dropped. so something weird was going on. i asked for data from the admissions staff. they refused and in 2008, i resigned in protest from that
committee. >> so it was a denial of those in your findings that you thought was completely wrong. so you actually say here that the controversy surrounds this idea, that approximately 20% of the african-americans that ucla admitted would not have been admitted if it weren't for the racial differences? >> that's right. >> how can you prove that? >> well, one, when i resigned, ucla decided oh, we need to deflect attention from this professor resigning. so they did the equivalent of a blue ribbon commission. they hired a sociology professor at ucla and four years later, they released his study and this person did an honest job. if you look at the statistical analysis in his study, it shows that. now, he concludes that about 33% of the african-americans admitted would not have been admitted if it weren't for the racial preferences.
he also finds that asian americans were discriminated against. that if it weren't for the discrimination, 9% would -- their numbers would have been 9% higher. >> where is the pressure coming from, if this is indeed the case? >> you know, a lot of it is interest groups. just before the wholistic system was implemented, there was a big protest there, 2 to 300 students occupied the hallway outside the chancellor's office. i think it's also coming from the legislature. i hear rumors about that, we're going to decrease the uc budget if you don't increase diversity. the regents of the university, i have a quote in my book from the provost from the second command of the entire system said that yes, lots of regents are saying they're going to fire chancellors if they don't increase diversity. >> wow. we do have a quote from the ucla chancellor from a faculty meeting. several constituents cities of -- constituencies are
distressed. there is pressure on the numbers of underrepresented minors on campus are too small. so that was from 2008. highlighting their -- >> that was 2006. just before we implemented the wholistic system, chancellor abrams came to my committee and i don't know if you call it pressuring, but definitely lobbied our committee to change the system to a wholistic system. i might say after i resigned, the head lawyer for ucla denied what i said. i said that ucla implemented the wholistic system to increase the numbers of underrepresented minorities. everyone at that meeting was agreeing with that, including the chancellor. then after i said it in public, the head lawyer denied that. one thing i found with this, it's something like the little boy who says the king has no clothes. everyone knows the truth, but no one will say it.
it's so strange. i feel like almost that the only person who will admit these things. >> wow. it is definitely hot button issue there. we thank you for joining us this morning and we'll stay on this as well. thank you, tim. >> thank you, elisabeth. coming up, did stossel invent facebook? the story of capitalism that you need to hear. but first on this day in history in 1963, sean connery starred in his first bond move yes "dr. no." in 2010, betty white is 88 years old, became the oldest "saturday night live" host. in 1977, "hotel california" by the eagles was the number within song. ♪ ♪ so's his serve, and his mandarin [speaking mandarin] xieúxieú, hou chiú but like up to 90% of americans, jim falls short in getting important nutrients from food alone.
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the left is lashing out at capitalism, claiming the system is rigged against the american dream. the american dream is dead. >> it's tough out there. it really is a rigged game. and it's set up now over and over -- >> it's probably always been. >> well. not like this. it's set up over and over and over that the rich get richer and the powerful get more powerful. they've got all the advantages of concentrated money and concentrated power. >> should i mention they're both rich talking to each other? two millionaires talk being how bad it is for the rich who are rich. john stossel says not so fast. he joins us right now to talk about this. is it really a rigged game, john >> it all has been to some extents. the rich have connections. they can now in america, you can get out of the government school monopoly and get a good education. we still are mobility in
america. most of the rich go down in the income. their kids do and most of the poor are up a quinntile. so it's not like you're locked in this position and this idea -- what they're selling is it's hopeless. government must take care of us. that's just wrong. >> it's just you inherits the money as if there are five families running the entire country. what is the exchange bar? talk about that. >> well, on tonight's show, we look at all the people who created new things and made it. exchange bar and grill is -- most restaurants fail. it's amazing that people dare start them. this place has -- puts the drinks, as you see, up on the wall and the more people buy them, like the stock market, the price goes up. the fewer people buy them, it goes down. it's gimmick, but it's working and they're doing well. >> it shows creativity and shows a fun factor which is judge people go out. you talk about people run their own businesses. yeah, they have stress of
insurance and payroll. you say studies show they're happier. >> the people who are happiest in life are people running ther own business. though they do -- odds are, p won't work. wonderful america, you can try and try again. they work longer hours. but they're happier. >> now, you said you started your own facebook, your own v of facebook? >> i started facebook, darn it! i was in college at a guy's school and i got a trip to these girls schools. i got the freshman pictures of all the girls. we published them in the book. but the internet hadn't been invented yet. >> you were ahead of your time. i saw the studythat says entrepreneurship in our country is at a 30-year low. there is less entrepreneurship in our country right now than any time since the '70s. >> i would like -- okay. since the 1970s maybe. i would like to see that study. look what we got. instagram, lift, uber, 3d printing, fracking, wonderful things are being invented all the time. >> fracking my idea.
but again, we didn't have the drill. john, tell me when we can watch you tonight? >> 9:00 o'clock. we'll talk about the beauty of starting your own business. >> and it's beautiful to see you. thanks so much. coming up next hour, you're not going to believe it
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>> how happy does that fish look? how can you tell the fish is happy? >> i asked it. mornings are better with friends. >> hear ye, hear ye! this the town cryer. you are watching "fox & friends"! >> mornings are better with salmon. >> salmon. >> welcome aboard. last hour was kind of dull because elisabeth did not come after you with a pastry. >> i know. unbelievable. >> happy birthday day after for you. >> i was just thinking about that. steve is so sick of my birthday. he had to go to my party on long island. then take phone calls yesterday. >> i had to talk to my friend todd yesterday. >> then you have to go over
elisabeth attacking me with a cake. >> it was actually steve has idea. >> stop it. it was not. anyway, happy day after birthday. >> now let's talk about what's happening in the world. >> look at the cover of the new york post today. you've got the first lady, michelle obama, holding this up in the white house that says #bringbackourgirls. what she's talking about is the group boko haram, they're the people who kidnapped 300 young girls over in nigeria. >> islamic extremists. >> right. this terror group is. and what it sounds like they're going to sell them into slavery for as little as $12. extraordinarily, michelle obama is talking about bringing them back. last week hillary clinton was talking about bringing them back, and yet it turns out hillary clinton had a chance to do something to crack down on this group and simply did not. >> that's right. against requests from f.b.i., c.i.a., a dozen senators and congressmen, she did not put them on the list of foreign terrorist organizations in 2011.
perhaps because it didn't fit with the narrative, some would assert, that al-qaeda was dead, they were on the run. we had nothing to worry about. and they didn't want to ruffle any feathers there. this is johnny carson, his defense of why that never occurred. he said this. >> he said there was a concern that putting boko haram on the foreign terrorist list raises profile, giving greater publicity and greater credibility, help in its recruitment and drive more assistan in its direction. if you were that concerned about that, why did you put hamas on that, hezbollah on that? al-qaeda? if that was a legitimate concern, did you not care they were getting stronger and additional funding? why what is wrong with call ago terror group a terror group? then you find out where the money is going, then you have additional veins of terror to scoop up and take out. >> sure. but to elisabeth's point, remember before the election it was all about yeah, bin laden is dead, al-qaeda is on its heels.
they're on the run. but then if you talk about these terror groups and this is another one of those islamic extremist groups, makes the president's reelection look bad. of course, then there is the whole thing about benghazi. it happened seven weeks before the election against mitt romney. and we now know all -- well, we've got a lot of questions. we don't have many answers. that's why there will be this select committee. trey gowdy who will head it up mentioned yesterday he will call hillary clinton as a witness because she was running the department. she would know a lot about it. >> he was quoted as saying this is not a tea party. i'm not inviting her to a cocktail party. when i subpoena her, i expect her to be there. last night with megyn kelly with his quote. hillary sitting down with robin roberts at abc, again, dismissing those that want answers too easily. take listen. >> of course, there are a lot of
reasons why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided, some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. that's their choice and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> people say this is out of balance. i don't know how anyone can have a problem of examineing hillary clinton's record. when you look at should we have a reis the with russia, that was hers. she misspelled it. that didn't work out. now you look at the situation with the terror group, i had no idea about this. no one is denying this. this is all part of the report card that matters. james writes to us on facebook and says, i want to know why the ambassador was at such a poorly defended embassy, who refused to send troops when attacks started and who start the satisfied. the question is what, do you
need to know yet from benghazi out of this special counsel? >> perhaps omission will be the next hash tag, omission of detailstails and truth. someone says, when the truth comes out and someone pays for what what they did to these men, that's she'll be satisfied. >> when robin roberts asked about benghazi, hillary clinton didn't ask what difference does it make. >> she tried that once. >> i think when it comes to those of the families killed, they're not choosing to be concerned. they deserve those answers. continue to send your responses in. >> right. there are people on the left who say it's a phony scandal. if it's a phony scandal, then they won't find anything, so calm down. >> let's see if they'll participate. that will be the big question. heather nauert is participating in news. >> we've got new developments out of florida. a horrific fire and it has a whole community in mourning today. it was a deadly fire that took place at tennis star james
blake's mansion. cops in tampa are saying this fire was sets on purpose and that explosions were heard inside that house and they possibly resulted from ammunition or from fireworks. the victims, the mother, a father and two teenage children. this is the dramatic 911 calls are released. take a listen to this. >> i'm walk my dog and the house ex plodded! oh, my god! >> calm down and take a deep breath. okay? >> it's horrible! >> this happening in the early morning hours. now our fox affiliate is identifying the four victims as 49-year-old darren campbell, his wife, kim, and their two teenage children, coolen and meghan. he was a senior in high school and she was a freshman. that home is in an exclusive area that's known for its heavy security. we'll keep you posted on these details. in the meantime, listen to this story. this coming in overnight. uruguay offering a to take six
prisoners from gitmo, but there is just a little catch here. the country's president says that he will take those terror suspects from gitmo if washington agrees to let them live free. what do you think of that? no response yet from the white house. the president of uruguay is set to meet with president obama on monday. will lois lerner face prosecution? that is a big question this morning after the former head of the irs was held in contempt. the vote in the house was 231-187. all republicans and several democrats voted in favor of it. she's being held in contempt for refusing to answer questions about the irs targeting of conservative groups over their attempts to get tax exempt status. we all remember this, the half million dollars government -- taxpayer funded actually, shrimp on a treadmill experiment in 2011. the newest congressional pig book is out and highlights all that outlandish federal spending like that. it now includes this year,
15 million being spent on pacific coastal salmon recovery fund. whatever this is. or there is this, $90 million in upgrade an army tank. listen to this. >> the army doesn't want the upgrade. they want to wait three years, save $3 billion. 2,000 of those tanks sitting in the desert in california being unused. they need to modernize the whole tank system, the whole fleet. so they don't want to do anything right now. the congress, where these are being billed, wants to keep money going. >> and we've got the pig right there. okay. another example of wasteful spending -- brian, not you. the pig mascot. >> thank you. $2.6 million for the commission which the president has said could be cut. whatever that is. but there is a whole lot of stuff that we are paying for. lot of people not so happy about. >> right. do you want to walk that clip over the daley show or do you want know?
do we make it that easy. the editor is like okay done. i can take lunch now. i was focusing on the waste. not on the pig. by the way, was cross eyed for some reason. when you have a mascot, at least make him look straight ahead. am i correct? >> didn't notice. >> the pig reps are calling in. let's move on from that to this. when you go to the emergency room, you need to see a doctor fast. people go to the emergency room because it's an emergency. as it turns out -- remember over the last couple weeks we've been telling you thousand looks like, according to an investigation, at least 40 veterans died waiting for care at that hospital, the v.a. hospital in phoenix. now according to research, it looks like the average vet waits twice as long than a civilian at a v.a. hospital to get emergency care. also according to the washington times, what they've done is they have looked at some of the inspector general reports for
the v.a. and it shows the average wait times at v.a. e.r.s can be up to ten hours. keep in mind, it's an emergency and they've got to wait ten hours. >> really just to think about why those in an instant would defend the lives of others can't have their lives protected medically whether they return here. when you hear what the former secretary of veteran affairs said about the long scope here what, this means in termination of the promise that we make to our military men and women, it will just get in your heart. >> real serious repercussion of that i think long-term is that the young americans who we deny depend on to -- pen on to enlist, we have a compact with them that we're going to take care of them if they're hurt while serving us. that's the v.a.'s job. if they become cynical about that, we're not going to have people show up and volunteer for the kind of rigor that we put
them through, the service in uniform. >> they say an estimated 23 veterans lost their lives because of this. our chairman in the house, jeff miller, says this has got to change. wed into an overhaul. he's got to start the change, demand the overhaul. stop talk being it! >> there are a number of organizations that are calling for the resignation of the guy who runs the v.a. and that's general shenseki. the white house says, he's doing a great job. and there you got him right there. he says he's not going anywhere. so it's this kind of leadership -- he says he wants to get to the bottom of it and i hope he does. but at the same time, it's like is nobody ever being held accountable by this government? >> he might be a great general, but he might not be great at management. he's probably in the wrong job. >> how long does he have to wait for an emergency? >> not long, i'm sure. >> why are our veterans putsing their lives on the line here? >> it's a dozen minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, a chaotic scene got crazier when out of nowhere,
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>> with the perfect movie season right around the corner, how do you make sure you're getsing the best deal for your money? joining me is fox news legal analyst and real estate guru, bob massi. good morning, bob. >> that's an ad that says purchase right there, isn't it? >> that will make us all feel better about the rest. when you're buying a home for the very first time or not, what should be on your brain right there? >> i have to tell you that this is not easy for any of us to do because you're caught up in the emotion of buying, but you literally have to switch your hat as to prospective seller saying the home that i'm buying, as much as i love it, what is the potential resystem value do you know the -- resale value down the road? when you're buying the home, you're excitessed, particularly first-time buyer, it fits everything. but you say to yourself, if you can, okay. i'm going to live here x amount of years, i hope. is it in the right place? will it have good resell value?
will it appreciate? the second thing that happens when you buy home, no matter what anybody owns a home we know, you're never done with the home, ever. >> no. >> are you making modifications that takes away the value of a resale? for example, someone may take their garage and convert it to a workout room. somebody may take part of an attic and put a closet in because their kids are growing up and they don't have enough space. those things that you do to your home when you're in it could take away the marketability of selling a home down the road. just keep that in mind. >> okay. so the mindset of being a seller when you're the buyer is probably really important. so look down the road. what about if the home needs repairs? how do you make sure that you're getsing the money back in the transaction, not left with a bunch of bills once you close? >> this is where a competent real estate broker or real estate attorney, if they're involved in the transaction, because you build contingencies into that offer that you make on that home. for example, if you do your walk-through and you find that
there is this wrong, this wrong, that wrong, this wrong, what do you is you put contingencies saying to the seller, listen, we want these things repaired before the close of escrow. but if they don't get repaired, we will retain a certain amounts of money after the close of escrow and you have 30 days to get it repaired, for example. if you don't repair it, we get to keep that money to fix those things. you got to make sure you get an estimate as to what needs to be fixed as a result of the walk-through so that you find out exactly what your damage could be. writing up this deal, you must think through the deal. you've got to think on the other side of the deal in order to protect yourself. that's why you need proper real estate broker agent that's competent in the area of buying a home. >> okay. then deal chasing, we want to address that briefly before we go 'cause it's important. >> well, i have a saying, a pig swallows and a hog chokes. the bottom line is, i cannot
tell you how many times i've seen good deals go by because people are so greedy, they want o grind everybody down so much that they literally blow the deal. let the next person make a little bit of money on your deal. buy it if you like it, if it's in the right place. don't worry that somebody in four, five, six years may make money. that's okay, too. >> you are the guru there. great advice. you want everybody to write in. we'll see you soon. >> thank you. coming up, mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the least transparent of them all? wait until you hear who is the best at misleading you. then, are washington politics really as cut throat as "house of cards"? could they be based on true stories? kevin mccarthy put that question straight to kevin spacey and his answer just might surprise you. ♪ ♪
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in the first seven weeks. switching gears, the king of all monster movies is back. >> we are talking about "godzilla." >> because what's really happening is that you're hiding something out there! it is going to send us back to the stone age! >> the most terrifying force of nature returning to the big screen next week, but we're getting an inside scoop this week with fox news contributor and founder of nerdtears.com, kevin mccarthy. >> great to be in studio with you. before i get to that, i have to give you a birthday present. you've never seen "terminator 2". >> birthday month continues. >> how have you never seen that? it will be delivered to your house on saturday. >> wow. this is fantastic.
>> delivered by drone. >> it's a little scarey. >> i've seen the expendables. but go ahead. >> how is "godzilla." >> it opens next friday, i'll have my official review. i am the biggest "breaking bad" fan on the planet. i walk in, he plays heisenberg. check it out. >> it would be mind over matter, right? so he is this massive, takes up a lot of room and massive destruction and very careless, whereas heisenberg is methodical and he will find some little -- he'll find the weakness of
godzilla and exploit it. god. >> ill la versus waltzer white? waltzer white would win. >> i think -- maybe that could be the sequel. maybe he could be walter white, godzilla. i would pay to see that. this summer, only this summer. heisenberg, one man, one monster. >> he played that character on "breaking bad." he won three emmys for that character on the show. >> can you tell we haven't watched that show? >> i thought i watched the beginning of a new buddy movie. are you going to fight crime together? >> i saw him on broadway. he's incredible on broadway. the movie opens up next friday, i'll have the full review for in a next friday morning. >> what about kevin spacey "house of cards"? >> kevin spacey plays frank underwood. he based that clark off richard iii from shakespeare, which is
incredible. >> was he the house minority leader? this show obviously has two seasons. it's available on netflix, incredible show. he plays an incredible character. i wanted to know when you play character like this and visit washington, d.c., does it change the way you view dc? this is what he said. >> i find it amusing that lots of people in washington embraced the character and the series. i find it interesting that they say it's not like this. they say it's cynical and of course it's a fictional version of our esteemed members of congress. it's a little bit disappointing to see that we send people to washington and they don't do their jobs. it's frustrating to see. that's why i think maybe the show has become so successful because for an american audience, it's amazing to watch a congress that gets things done. >> yeah. so he's talking about now that movie in the background with the poster is a documentary about a apply he did playing richard
iii. he traveled around 200 perform ances. that interview is 13 minutes long. i'll tweet out the full version. he said the one movie that he'd like it bring to the stage is "l.a. confidential." >> as long as they don't sing. >> exactly. >> just act. >> and t 2 will be at your house on saturday. you got to send may text and let me know what you think about it. >> someone else will raise my children and i'll watch the movie. >> he'll text and we'll tweet. >> thank you so much. coming up straight ahead, it's already a crime scene, then happens. wait until you hear who was behind the wheel of that car. >> plus, the moment a great white mistakes a boat for a chew toy right here. >> delicious.
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welcome back. the labor department releasing brand-new weekly jobless numbers. nicole petallides live from the floor of the new york stock exchange with those numbers. good morning there. >> good morning. we got in our weekly jobless claims. what we saw was that jobless claims were down 26,000 to 319,000. so that versus the estimates of 325,000 claims. so that's slightly good news, fewer claims is always good news. u.s. stock index futures are pointing to a flat open at the moment, but boy, have we had action on wall street this week. social media, for everybody who loves social media, it's been a momentum group, in some cases
they're flying up 20, and 30 and 40% over the last year. however, this week has been tough. we saw groupon down 24%. twitter down 21%. these are week to date numbers. als linkedin hit a new low. this group has been hit hard. you can put aol in that category as well. >> so twitter tanks. something big on twitter today because it's thursday. they do this #tbt, throwback thursday. here is a picture of me. that is elisabeth. that's brian. now, ladies and gentlemen, for throwback thursday, nicole, there is you and your mom. >> yeah, right! for mother's day, happy mother's day, everybody. my mom, she was born on cyprus. greatest, most wonderful mom in the whole world. >> why are you all dressed up there? where are you going? >> we went to a wedding. he ran for mayor of new york. we were on our way in to the church there for the wedding. by the way, she married
christopher nixon cox, the grandson of president nixon. >> that's right. >> so it was a nice wedding. >> thank you very much for sharing that with us. >> love that pictures. >> thanks, guys. green mountain coffee roaster. that will be a winner today. >> thanks for that. >> we'll brew on that for a while. >> we're enjoy ago cup of coffee. these pictures you guys have been sending in. this is lohry patterson with her sons. both are serving in the u.s. air force. she writes zach is on his way home from the sand box. what a great mother's day gift. >> all grown up. >> tracy says with her mom there in a photo in 1968, newport richie, florida, where my curve lives. >> remember those photos out of the photo booth? it usually came with four different edges? that's just one of them. >> remember that? >> i like that moment.
>> i went to the little lady dance, my daughter chose me. >> the little lady dance? >> that's what they call it. if i have any more pictures of 4ñbacklashing.l start they give you costumes now. will give you costumes to make you look like 1920s. >> what was your era? >> the line was too long. we didn't go up. >> wait. you take your daughter to the little lady dance, she's all excited about wearing a costume and you say, sorry, mondayy, the wait will be too long. are you kidding me? >> let's go to heather nauert. >> you didn't put on a costume? >> the line was wrapped around the place. >> are you kidding? that's the whole event! years ago she'll say i remember. >> normal or nuts? >> heather will talk about those. >> i got some news to bring you. i want to bring a story out of texas. look at this chaos outside a
murder scene in houston when a suspected killer's father plows his car right through a big crowd of people. look at this. boy. you can sure they're as witnesses crime as they try to get out of the way of that car. cops arresting the driver as he attempts to jump out of his car. witnesses say that he snapped after he was taunted by a member of the victim's family. we'll keep you posted if anything new comes of that. remember the pilot who crashed his plane into a house in colorado and then walked away? he used to live in that very same house. 52-year-old brian beach, he was towing a banner from his plane when the plane lost power and then crashed that plane into the home below. he says it wasn't until he crawled out of his plane and then ran around the front of the house that he realized it was the very same house where he
used to live. and these guys are going to need a bigger boat. okay. take a look at that. that is a great white shark as it goes after an inflatable raft. kind of like a chew toy. there were film makers on board that raft. they were shooting off the coast of south africa. obviously the whole thing caught on camera. everyone made it back to land safely. can you imagination how nervous you would be? and then some other incredible video to show you this morning. everybody is talking about this. a family so close to winning $20,000 on the show "family feud," one family member scored 182 points in the final crowned anna sass, another family member, needed 18 points to win. how did she do? look at this. >> you said marriage.
survey said (buzzer). >> yeah. all the zeros down the board and they didn't win. that's what lost it for them. >> they needed 18? >> they blanked on it. >> wow. >> somewhere richard dawson is rolling in his grave. >> brian! >> only a richard dawson kiss would have made them feel better. >> heather, thank you very much. all right, meanwhile, have you seen this video? wind so strong in central kansas, a train right off the tracks. nobody was hurt thankfully. but the storm is now on the move. maria molina is outside with her gust buster umbrella. >> that's right. my gust buster umbrella. we're not expecting strong winds across parts of northeast, but we are dooling with some rain and showers that will linger across this area not just today, but over the next several days. i want to take you farther west. look at some of these currents temperatures across parts of the
plains. still early in the morning and dallas and kansas city, you're in the 70. in chicago, this is your current temperature as we head out the door, 68 degrees. very mild out there. that's a bad sign because that means that as the storm system heads into this area, it will have the fuel to fire up showers and thunderstorms. we do have the potential for severe weather coming up later today across parts of texas, up into wisconsin and minnesota. that area shaded in red right there across iowa, southern parts of minnesota, that's the greatest risk area for potentially violent weather. we could see long-track tornadoes today as the storms fire thumb afternoon and evening and eventually by friday, the storm continues moving eastward and anywhere from arkansas up into indiana, you could be looking at some severe weather. we'll keep track of it. let's head over to you, brian. >> all right. another case of thunder causing a blackout. russell westbrook and kevin durant playing lights out basketball. the pair combining for 63 points in game 1 against the clippers.
but wait, those weren't the only lights going out. during a timeout, just before half time, the power surge. the arena lights dim. so the teams went out and played the final 27 seconds of the half in the dark. later on the lights came on and oklahoma city would win. everyone wants somebody to get a foul ball. what length would you go to to get it? is it worth losing your pants over? one tigers fans almost mooned the entire crowd. he reached over to snatch the ball and leaned a little too far. luckily his friend pulled up his pants. so he was able to get the ball and he was not able to -- there you go. there he goes. he pulled down the underpants and put it back. a good friend. >> it's a low light with the highlights. >> what's the lesson there? maybe no lesson. maybe this is one highlight we don't learn anything from.
>> proper fitting clothing. >> if you have a friend going down, grab them by the underwear and pull them up. >> funny highlight there. a fire at a tennis star james blake's mansion not funny. killing an entire family. police say it was set on purpose. we are live at the scene right now. >> plus, rick springfield, the singing star about to tell us something you've never heard him say before. and it doesn't involve jesse's girl. ♪ ♪
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results. >> wtvt reporter is live in tampa. what are you hearing from the police this morning? >> reporter: detectives are combing through the house right now trying to gather as much evidence as possible. so many different questions in this story that we really don't know the answers to. was this a murder-suicide. was this family killed in cold blood? we don't know the answers, but hopefully we'll get some soon. we do know the fire, it took about seven hours to contain the flames. it was intentionally set. there appears to have been an unknown accelerant fueling the fire. small commercial fireworks were also found throughout this house. two victims suffered upper body trauma. fox 13 learned darren campbell, his wife, kim, and teenage children, coolen and meghan, lived in this house. as you said, the family was renting it from former tennis pro james blake. they've been living there for at least two years. of a will is an exclusive gated community north of tampa.
most of the homes are worth more than a million dollars. the folks in this communities wants to know what's going on and what led to all of this. back to you in new york. >> i think we all do. thank you very much. live from the tampa area. i was watching greta last night and live with greta was -- you've seen a lot. the ticking house. the boat, on lois lerner, is she -- they're voting yes or thumbs up or down when it comes to charging her with contempt of congress for taking the fifth and then making those statements prior to her taking the fifth? the answer was overwhelmingly yes with six democrats also joining the majority of republicans. >> right. 231-187. we have for you now to take a look at those six listed there. barber, patterson, mcentire, rehall and murphy. >> in addition to finding her if cements of congress, also in a separate resolution, they urged the department of justice to
appoint a special prosecutor. that means they've got to go to the u.s. attorney for dc who works for eric holder. what's interesting is remember, eric holder was found in cements of congress as well. but he was able, when he was found in contempt, for withholding fast and furious documents, he said, executive privilege. it's interesting corks lois lerner use that? if she did, it would essentially say there was coordination between the white house and the irs. darrell issa tweeted out, unless president exercise executive privilege, there is no precedents for u.s. attorney to do anything but pursue this criminal case. #irstargeting. so stand by. >> ten minutes to the top of the hour. coming up, you know this song. ♪ you know i wish that i had jesse's girl ♪ ♪ i wish that i had jesse's girl ♪ >> but we promise you, there is something you don't know about rick springfield and he's here next to tell us.
we're going to check in with bill hemmer. >> did you know yesterday was brian's birthday? i read in the blogs! well done. benghazi moves forward today, but will democrats join that investigation? we are about to find out. lois lerner found out her fate, at least her next step. and earth as you've never seen her before. we've got the pictures and they're amazing. ten minutes away when mar this and i see you at the top of the hour
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like that ♪ ♪ . >> he is a triple threat, rick springfield has sold millions of records, starred on the big screen and wrote a best selling autobiography. >> he's adding fiction writer to his accomplishments with his new book called "magnificent vibration." here is rick springfield. good morning to you. >> hello. >> so success with the autobiography, but fiction, what do you like moore and why did you want to write this? >> i started as a kid, i wanted to be a writer first and then music took over. it was the only thing i got good grades for were my essays at school. everything else, terrible grades. so they encouraged me to be a writer. then music took over and the writing went to song writing. i always wanted to get back to it. having the success of the autobiography which i wrote myself -- i was encouraged to write fiction because i don't have to apologize for it afterwards. sorry i'm such a jerk. >> you're writing about something that a lot of people think about and that is
spirituality and god and things like that that you have combined into this new book. >> first of all, it's dark humor. i hate the idea of preaching or anything. >> you're not a theologist. >> it starts with a guy having a conversation with god. he gets a phone number and doesn't believe it's god. >> maybe that's because god doesn't have a phone number. >> he may. 1-800-call god is the phone number in the book. and he called, bobby cotton calls it and his life goes completely south after that because god has an attitude and isn't quite what we imagine. >> sure. >> so you're taking the book and taking yourself and you're going on tour, and answer questions from audience? >> i do a solo tour where we do a q and a and appearing appearit benatar this summer. >> the book is called
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all right. what's going to happen in the after the show show? yesterday it was crazy, thanks a lot. >> it will maybe less crazy. >> tomorrow jennifer esposito will be here and chris wallace. bill: thank you, guys. more on that. rumors swirl. good morning, everybody, fox news alert now. the house is set to vote on making the investigation on benghazi official. the man who will lead the select committee said hillary clinton will testify or else. good morning. we're about to find a lot about this. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to "america's newsroom." martha: good morning, i'm martha maccallum. tensions are reaching a fever pitch on capitol hill on what would be the first select committee to be appointed in a long, long time. democrats are threatening to boycott it. republicans are looking to hillary clinton to provide those answers. here is trey gowdy on whether
he was shotting an intruder. and it is cinco de mayo. the fifth of may celebrating the mexican the mexican army over the french forces in the battle of puebla back in 1862. it's an excuse to drink for louis. you have to drink the whole thing and eat the worm. that is it for way too early. "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ and i'm feeling sorry, believe it or not, for the speaker of the house as well. these days the house republicans actually give john boehner a harder time than they give me. which means orange really is the new black. >> that was one of the really good ones. good morning, everyone. >> speaking of orange, look at that sunrise over new york city. >> monday morning. may 5th. welcome to "morning joe," everybody. >> that's an orange crush right there. >> yes, it is. on the set we have john heilemann. >> good to have you here. >> hello, heilemann. anything going on with you? >> not much. celebrating the nets victory yesterday, baby. game seven. unbelievable. >> we'll talk. visiting professor at nyu, former democratic congressman harold ford jr. >> professor. >> and in washington, senior political editor and white house correspondent for "the huffington post" sam stein. we also have editor for "the washington post" david ignatius. with all going on in ukraine, glad you're in early this morning. >> an eventful weekend. willie, happy belated birthday for you. >> thank you. it was a great saturday. it was a derby/birthday combo. >> how much bourbon did you drink? >> you mean bottles? >> you should have seen the hat he was wearing. >> it was a fascinator. >> you guys in washington, you were at the correspondents -- president was good. >> president was great. >> thought he was funny. >> his performance skills are very high when it comes to these events, i think. has that dry sense of humor. he's got the great second beat on those jokes. >> we'll stay on it. more of the jokes at the white house correspondents dinner. >> we cannot believe what these olympic athletes do. death defying feats. haven't seen someone pull a 180 that fast since rand paul disinvited that nevada rancher from this dinner. as a general rule, things don't
end well if the sentence starts "let me tell you something i know about the negro." just a tip for you. don't start your sentence that way. now that it's 2014, washington is obsessed on the midterms. folks are saying that with my sagging poll in numbers, my fellow democrats don't want me campaigning with them. i don't think that's true although i did notice the other day that sasha needed a speaker at career day and she invited bill clinton. washington seems more dysfunctional than ever. gridlock has gotten so bad in this town, you have to wonder, what'd we do to piss off chris christie so bad? >> that was a good line. >> okay. so that was joel mchale. we'll get to that in a second. he's star of "the community."
did he talk about chris christie? >> he sure did. let's roll it. >> i know it's been a long night, but i promise that tonight will be both amusing and over quickly just like chris christie's presidential bid. i got a lot of these tonight, so buckle up, governor christie. excuse me. extender buckle up. all right. governor, do you want bridge jokes or size jokes? i got a bunch of both. i can go half and half. i know you like a combo platter. now, i get that. i'm sorry for that joke, governor christie. i didn't know i was going to tell it. but i take full responsibility for it. whoever wrote it will be fired. but the buck stops here. so i will be a man and own up to it just as soon as i get to the bottom of how it happened, because i was unaware it happened until just now. i'm appointing a commission of me to investigate the joke i
just told. and if i find any wrong doing on my part, i assure you i will be dealt with. i just looked into it. it turns out i'm not responsible for it. justice has been served. >> okay. joel mchale was adorable, i think, first of all. >> good guy. and by the way, chris christie not only laughing at the jokes at the party, but was laughing after the party. he and mchale were together. people on tv thought it was a cheap shot. chris christie and mary pat were laughing and posed for pictures with him. >> and we kind of had a run in with him. >> you know what? there's a -- we were comparing book notes. willie, as you know, i'm selling a lot of books in new hampshire. and i was selling more. he was commenting on how many books i'm selling in new hampshire. i said i'm selling more books in new hampshire than you will ever sell. >> this went on for a good eight
minutes. >> it's publishing trash talk. >> it is. both of us are men of letters and both of us are taken by how much the good people of new hampshire love to read. >> they love to read. >> are you monitoring the independent book sales at store by store basis. >> duh. of course we are. of course we are. dropped by one in concord this weekend. >> we were waiting to take pictures and this happened. willie, this went on for, like, eight minutes. seriously. >> the book talk? >> the book trash talk. >> wow. >> i changed to samsung. i had new numbers. >> mika runs up to chris christie and tried to explain it. like you can't talk in shorthand like that. so we went up and mika went up and said i'm texting you, why aren't you returning your calls. he said i'm not getting them.
she explained it was the phone. i said mika always thought it was the phone. i said you were a really big skinned jerk and that was probably why. and he laughed. >> so he's good? >> mika had the wrong number. i'm telling you, the drugs, you can't see. even a big screen like this. it's hard to see the big screen. you know? >> just stop. >> she was sending texts to chris cross instead of chris christie. >> can i get their number by the way? >> sure. >> more of those photos can be seen at vanity fair portraits. >> there's our son. >> who's that? >> that's ronan. >> our handsy son. he's a naughty child. and there was a -- eric holder has decided that you're going to run for office and he's going to take your job. so we did -- >> oh, yeah. he said why don't we do a freaky friday switch.
here he is. he wants it to be morning eric and he and mika were trying out for that cable news. you know, he's the former attorney general, she's a former whatever you are former. >> whatever. thanks, guys. >> then morning eric. what do you think? that would be a great poster. >> i'd watch that show. >> of course you'd watch that show. >> title it with holder somehow. >> she suggested morning ric. take the e off. >> i don't know. vanity fair party was fun. the correspondents dinner was, i think, a success. i guess. >> let's move on. i'm bored. >> okay. for the reason now that we have such an elegant panel, we're go i think to start with ukraine where violence is spreading deeper with clashes now erupting in that country's third largest city. hundreds of pro-russian militants stormed police headquarters on sunday demanding that fellow separatists be
released. the men smashed open the door of the police station and broke windows and security cameras. five dozen militants were freed with little resistance from police. the men were being held in connection to deadly reactions on friday which left many dead. it was the worst violence in that country since february. the u.s. ambassador to ukraine is now demanding an investigation into the increasing violence and if moscow is behind it. meanwhile, michael mcfaul, the former u.s. ambassador to russia is warning that russia could be in the final stages of preparing for a full scale invasion. >> david ignatius, the ukrainian government says it's protecting its own citizens from pro-russia militias. now we hear russia saying they have to protect russian-speaking people from the government. what are we seeing this morning? >> we're seeing the inability of
any government to maintain safety and security in ukraine. which means that the violence is getting worse and the calls for some kind of intervention are growing. the obama administration's biggest hope is that somehow if ukraine can stumble through to elections on may 25 when there'll be a new government and a sense the administration hopes of legitimacy for a government that could crack down, restore orders, defend its borders, et cetera. and the terrible irony of the russians demanding safety for these poor protesters in eastern ukraine. many think the russians have been encouraging the protesters to grab the airport, a television tower. now they're demanding someone maybe even the russians come in and restore order. it's been increasingly chaotic demonstration. it's shows the weakness of the ukrainian government. above all, it illustrates the
russians' basic comfort level with this chaotic ukraine on the way to elections on may 25th. >> okay. i'm going to grab a thought that i read recently about the situation in ukraine. especially as it pertains to american leadership. because some can put this as black and white, america is not strong. the president is not strong enough. but i read recently that it's sort of like getting in a fight when you're trying to get a divorce. it's not that easy. because you want to make your point without hurting the whole situation, the whole family. >> how the united states should use its enormous power to deter vladimir putin from invading eastern ukraine just as he invaded crimea a month ago is the question that's really haunting washington. we had a map in "the washington post" over the weekend that showed the battle lines for a war between russia and ukraine. i haven't seen anything like that since history books, you
know, after the fall of berlin in 1945. it's just stunning to see that. the administration keeps saying when you push them that its policy is to make it so costly for putin to keep pushing in ukraine, that he'll think twice. he'll stop. >> of course as you know, the ruble and the russian stock market have gone up since we've -- >> things are beginning to -- >> no, since we put the sanctions in place. these sanctions are so insignificant that they're not going to deter somebody like putin, are they? >> you know, joe, the recovery in the russian currency and markets is after a significant fall. so in absolute terms, it's not a great period for russia. i think it is fair to say that obama has been holding in reserve partly because europe is not comfortable yet with heavy duty sanctions. the kind of sanctions that would hit the export industries,
principally energy and weapons. if the russians move, if their tanks roll across the frontier in ukraine, i would guess president obama would have merkel with him in imposing sanctions that would make things hurt for russia. but by that time it's too late. the tanks were already in. so no question that obama's taken a go-slow approach to this. >> all right. some political news now. new indicators show rough waters ahead for the democrats in the midterms. a pugh research/usa today poll shows republicans have their biggest advantage in two decades. numbs shows voters shifting away from democrats over the last six months. a majority of voters say the president isn't a factor in their vote, but the number of democrats voting in support of the president's record has fallen 16 points since the 2010 elections. the number of republicans voting
against his agenda has increased. still when compared to this point when george w. bush was president, the president's approval is nine points higher. voters have showed a deep desire for change during both presidents' second term saying it's time for different policies. >> john heilemann, we have a flurry of polls. willie and i were talking about this last week, two weeks ago. democrats looking better this past week. republicans looking better. now this pew poll suggests big trouble. also on the "usa today," health spending. this is going to drive the first half of the week as far as the debate goes. health spending up the fastest in 34 years. and in the lead, the "usa today" blames obamacare. >> look. we saw three polls last week, right? we started early last week with
the abc/"washington post" poll. then the other poll that seemed kipt. and now this poll. we've had three in a row now from big organizations with big sample sizes who have good records that suggest that maybe what happened with the obamacare 8 million number was more of a blip and that we're actually settling into what i think a lot of people thought the prevailing trend lines would be which is republicans are in a strong position in the midterms and obamacare is going to be by no means a winning -- on the macro level, not a winning issue for democrats. they'll have to be fighting for their lives in general and on that issue going forward. >> harold, it's only may as you and i know more happens in campaigns in six days than let alone six days. but you look atted t the headli. biggest advantage for republicans in two decades. what did democrats do six months
out? >> another headline talks about the violence in ukraine. i think there's a sense if you have an everyday hard-working american and you are struggling and working to support their family and you read the political headlines and trends out of washington, just don't bode well for the party in charge. second, you consider the states where you have these elections. states that romney performed well in. states where the health care plan and some of the other things a president is doing or has done is less popular than they are in other states. and finally, i think you showed the numbers between george w. bush and the president in terms of the approval ratings. remember in 2006, democrats cleaned up. if you're democrats, even though it's only may, you have to begin to think now how do you shift a bit on things that would help you? >> we're starting to see keystone, harry reid trying to help. >> help some democrats around.
>> helps us as home on manufacturing. helps foreign policy. but you know, willie, it's -- you're starting to see harry reid and you're starting to see other democrats talk about keystone. this energy issue is going to be a big issue because it's about jobs. for once it's not the republicans the base that's pulling them away from where middle america is. democrats have a lot of challenges. >> they do. maybe harry reid's talking about it, but there's still a lot of democrats who are not going to move on the keystone pipe line. maybe there's some deal to use it as a chip for something else. >> the president could just do that. >> that's right. sam, you're looking at these numbers. the piece in the "usa today" says these numbers show the strongest tilt towards republicans in the last couple decades. including stronger than before 2010. republican strategists if you talk to them privately, they're
feeling good about this obviously about holding the house but taking the senate as well. >> yeah. i mean, i've said it before and i'll say it again. the best thing the democrats have going for them right now is they had a huge wave loss in 2010. there's fewer seats for them to lose in the house than they would otherwise. the house is a problem when you have so many seats in states that went to romney that holding the majority seems tenuous. that said, looking at national polls is silly. each individual race has its own dynamic. for example, in arkansas where you would imagine is democrat would be really suffering under the burdens of the health care law, a poor economy, sagging approval numbers, mark potter is not that poorly positioned. you do have to look to respect to the senate state by state. one thing i'd add with health care spending which is a scary headline is that the charts early on when they were on
kbbcare suggested a very spike in 2014 because millions more people were going to get coverage and spend on health care at the time. we have to wait and see what happens after this spike to see if they continue going down which they were before. it could just be tied to the bad economy. but if the recent trends continue and we have more health care spending, then we're in real trouble basically. >> all right. we're going to keep talking about this. obviously more on ukraine and foreign policy straight ahead with david ignatius. >> oh, yeah. coming up in the 7:00 hour, chuck schumer is here on set. he brought with him an interesting chart on the big fight over raising the minimum wage. >> i'm going to debate him on that chart, the minimum wage, and ask if he would trade keystone for a rise in minimum wage. help workers on both sides of that equation. i'll see if he loves the working man as much as i do. >> i want to see if his chart is more interesting than rattner's. i don't think if that's possible.
also a new investigation into the benghazi attacks. >> i'm also going to ask him what happened in ireland when jerry adams was arrested. a strange move considering where the peace talks have been going. >> then live in our 8:00 hour, senator joe manchin is here in the studio and senator tim kaine on his backing for hillary 2016. >> willie and i was -- what did we say this was? >> yeah. >> full throated. yes. >> okay. all right. >> thank you for being there with me, willie. up next, a tragic circus accident leaves a group of performers in critical condition. also ben affleck caught counting cards in las vegas? we'll explain it on morning papers. and jim gaffigan joins us on set. >> i don't know if you can tell by my beard, but i'm fat. i don't know what happened.
all i did was eat constantly and then boom i'm fat. seems unfair. >> but first if it was only that simple, here's bill kairns with a check on the forecast. >> good stuff, you guys. we got done with a pretty nice weekend on the eastern seaboard. rain showers in new england yesterday. the heat was the real story, though. everywhere in the red on this map shows you where it was 80 degrees yesterday from d.c. all through the deep south. but the one highlight was the central plains. it was 102 in wichita, kansas. they were off to the driest start to the year ever since the dust bowl in the mid-'30s. with the windy conditions -- this was in oklahoma yesterday. they had me vacuations. a couple structures burned down. you could see one of them there. the way the wind was blowing those flames. another dangerous day in the plains today.
what's cruel about the central u.s., even though it was 100 there, it was snowing in northern wisconsin. still very chilly weather remains through the great lakes. there's still some ice on the great lakes from the winter. i think it was 20% ice still left. so chilly today. chicago only a 56 for your high. but we're warm with with a brush fire threat in the middle of the country. we're looking nice in new england. maybe a stray shower or two in maine. but the rest of the region is looking very nice. a perfect spring day for you. and the next five days, the only really big storm we're going to have should bring rain to the northern plains. weld like to get some of this rain in texas and arkansas. that doesn't occur until about thursday. nice week ahead for much of the country. i don't think any tornado threats at all. which is great especially after what we dealt with last week. washington, d.c. was the big scene for the correspondents dinner. here's one more humorous joke. >> the vice president isn't here tonight not for security
reasons. he just thought this event was being held at the dulles airport applebees. yes. right now he's elbow deep in jalapeno poppers and talking to a construction cone he thinks is john boehner. also true. ♪
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>> oh, my god. >> the eight injured acrobats are all out of surgery. one performer is still in critical condition with internal bleeding. others recovering with broken bones. this morning's performance canceled. >> that was absolutely horrific. oh, my gosh. the oklahoman, firefighters in guthrie, oklahoma, are battling a massive wildfire that's killed one and destroyed six homes. the fire began yesterday afternoon after a controlled burn got out of hands. strong winds and dry weather fuel it this morning. nearly 3,000 acres burned so far. >> the star ledge ebb. condoleezza rice will not give the commencement appearance at rutgers after protests. calling for the university to disinvite rice. >> how stupid on these students.
>> students are upset about her support of the war in iraq. she was set to receive $35,000 for the appearance. >> that is absolute insanity. here you have the first african-american female woman to be secretary of state in the united states of america. what a wonderful example not only could she set for these students, but she has been setting at stanford. one of the greatest colleges in the world where she's been provost and head of student affairs. i mean, serious -- i'm sorry. where is the rutgers community standing up for academic freedom? i would urge her -- i would bend over backwards. you talk about political correctness run amok, this is absolute insanity. >> yeah. and universities are supposed to be the place where ideas are exchanged, where your mind is open to all points of view. what a disgrace actually. >> agree with me 100% of the
time or you're not allowed to come to an institution that's supposed to be about higher learning. and the frequee market place of ideas. do you know how many speakers students had to listen to at their universities? how many times they had to sit and have their views and their values mocked and ridiculed? you know what they did? they sat in those seats. because they don't get the kind of treatment. i cannot believe -- rutgers needs to bend over backwards to get there. >> they ought to review that. the san francisco chronicle, for the first time in more than two weeks, court is back in session for former olympian oscar pistorius. the first person to arrive at his home the night of reeva steenkamp's death, he described a very emotional scene. >> it's not something i would like to experience again, my lady.
it was a young man walking down the stairs with a lady, with a young woman in his arms. and the scene you see, the expression of sorrow, the expression of pain. >> pistorius claims he mistook steenkamp for an intruder. >> seriously, how long is this trial going to go on? let me help you. the guy's guilty. "new york times," a new study suggests the secret to reversing aging may lie in the blood of the young. research from harvard and stanford university found the blood of young mice rejuvenated the brain's muscles of older mice. also found drastic improvement to every tissue in tnthe bodiesf older mice.
>> ben affleck found himself in hot water at the hard rock last week accused of counting cards. he was approached by security for being too good at blackjack and was asked to leave the premises. quote, he is not banned from our property and is welcome back any time. >> good to know. >> unlike willie. >> no. willie's too good. >> just to reiterate, counting cards not illegal. just frowned upon. >> i don't understand what it is. >> with us now on the set in the flesh, white house correspondent for politico, mike allen. mike, good morning. >> happy cinco de monday. >> holy cow. >> you've got to piece on michael hirsch. the hillary industrial complex. we know what it is basically. but take us inside what this looks like.
if the runs for president, what heat will she feel about benghazi? >> this is a piece by michael hirsch who's the national editor of politico magazine. he pointed out that benghazi is becoming to this decade what vince foster, white waterwere in the '90s. from mentions of hillary in twitter recent days. 219,000 mentions of benghazi. he calls it the social media twin. this is something that fires up the republican base, but even though the white house hates this topic, democrats in general like it because it helps reinforce their views of the republican base as right wing nuts. >> if you're hillary clinton or if you're running hillary clinton's campaign, should there be a campaign, are you generally concerned in a general election about the idea of benghazi? or is that sort of confined to a republican primary? >> of course you are. the question is whether it's about competition of ideology.
at the moment because republicans perhaps overplaying their hand as they seem all too ready to do calling for appointing special committee, more subpoenas. but if it becomes a question about secretary clinton's competence especially at a time when the world events we're talking about at the top of the show, we have not a lot of accomplishments to talk about, then it's a problem. >> harold ford, would you be worried about it? >> the question i have is you've seen polling. where do the american people rank this in terms of -- >> low. and the story points out it's unlikely to hurt her with the voters. it's how she ramps up this campaign. so when she goes out with her book tour starting in june, she wants to be talking about her vision for the future. she wants to talk, remind people of why they used to like the clintons. this at this moment is this big
topic that no interviewer can fail to ask about and it's all about the past. that's not what you want. >> people will believe that hillary clinton is not a patriot, doesn't care deeply about the country, doesn't care deeply about our assets around the globe. and if the purpose is trying to suggest that, i think it's going to fall on deafer ears than some would think. >> i think that'd be the case. before we go, nobody's more plugged into washington than you are. what was the review of the white house correspondents dinner over the weekend? >> people thought the president was much tougher on himself than he's been in the past. his great line, sasha needed a speaker for career day, she chose bill clinton. that perfectly captured it in the weekend. >> mike allen with a look inside the play book. thank you. coming up next on "morning joe," a group of marines let it go while watching disney's
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♪ all right. let's do some sports. a couple of game seven playoff matchups in the nba. there were three of them on saturday. >> only one matters. >> two yesterday. let's start with the raptors hosting the nets. by the way, how great are the fans in toronto? going crazy. full force. packing even outside. nets try to inbound with the one-point lead. the pass knocked away. what a play right here. throws the ball off the nets player and goes out of bounds. they get the ball back now with a chance to win the game. >> here is lowrie on the deck. puts it up. it's blocked by pierce! and the nets win the series! >> paul pierce with the monster block. the old man getting it done. john heilemann is a huge nets fan. the old guys getting it done. they win game seven on the road. they move on to play the heat. great win. >> great win. double double for kevin garnett.
his best game of the season. paul pierce right there, the truth, showing why he can still get it done. you know, it's great for this next series. because toronto has a terrible time with miami. brooklyn beat miami four times this year. >> swept them. >> did they really? >> yeah. >> miami is the obvious favorite, but brooklyn has figured out miami at least during the regular season. >> san antonio also won game seven of its series against the mavs. now they move on to face the blazers. tonight the wizards host the pacer. and the clippers go to oklahoma city to play the thunder. >> harold, who do you like? >> the wizards look good. pacers look shaky. i like the nets. the nets push it to seven. if garnett and pierce don't have to over-play early in the series, they're the only team that can beat the heat. >> they're a good team. as are the raptors. the raptors will be a power in the east over the next few years. >> let's go to the ice. round two of the stanley cup playoffs yesterday. >> out to center. in a two on one. moving in. scores! >> letang on the side. to james neil. neil, rebound. goal! >> so the penguins win theirs 3-0. they even up with the rangers. the rangers stole game one on the road. and the ducks looking to even things up with the kings. >> rangers have a shot. >> yeah. they're 1-1 coming back to the garden. they've got a good shot. >> you saw the blackhawks winning their game up 2-o on the wild. >> a lot of crazy ranger fans. in a good way. >> hockey fans are intense. let's go to baseball now. some of the top plays out of the big leagues yesterday. >> first pitch swinging, slow roller. not in time. padres win! >> down the line. on his way to third. picked up by davis. they're going to wave him around. reds win! >> to right. it's well hit. at the wall. ball game! >> there's a shot. back into center. got some carry. ellsbury will go to the wall. off the wall bounding off ellsbury. rolling towards right center. jennings scores. longoria scores. they're going to wave will meyers. it's an inside-the-park home run. >> that's just embarrassing. >> especially for els burr are i. a guy you've got to root for -- actually, i'm rooting against him this season. >> the yankees are in first place by a half game. derek jeter welcomed a special guest to the stadium. peyton manning.
two of the all-time greats hanging out. yankees don't play the rockies this season so manning came to the bronx to pay respect to jeter in his final season. peyton watched that up in the box with eli. still ahead at the top of our 7:00 hour, peter king of new york says democrats would be, quote, terribly arrogant if they block another investigation into the benghazi attacks. then joe manchin on set on the fight to increase the minimum wage. but up next mika's must read opinion pages. we'll be right back with more "morning joe." ♪ ♪
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"the new york times" editorial board writes president obama and the world two years after winning an election in which foreign policy was barely mentioned, president obama is being pummelled at home and abroad for his international leadership. the world sometimes seems it is flying apart with mr. obama unable to fix it. through a combination of a few significant missteps, circumstances beyond his control, unreasonable expectations, and his bland demeanor, he doesn't walk around with his shirt off? i don't get it. in key respects mr. obama is precisely the foreign policy president that most americans and allies overseas wanted. he rejected the shoot first tendencies of president bush. but he has been blamed for his own foreign policy taken as a whole and stripped as much as
possible of ideological blinkers. mr. obama's record is not as bad as his critics say. it's just not good enough. so is it just a set of examples that are beyond his control? >> that editorial is fascinating because it has all the different instances in which obama has struggled to get a lot of success. i think most people would agree with him avoiding use of force in these battle grounds of the middle east. it makes sense. not overreacting to ukraine makes sense. yet when you add it up, there is something missing. my own answer would be there are two things. the first is communicating to the american people and the world. this president doesn't do that as much as he needs to on foreign policy. second is credibility. people ask well, he doesn't
fight this war or that war. what war would he fight? where would he draw the lines and mean it? i think the president is going to have to make clearer to the world precisely what he's prepared to do in an increasingly messy and dangerous situation especially in ukraine. >> sam stein, building on the comment david just made, do you think what's lacking in the president's foreign policy is some overarching aim or goal that seems to not define or give policy makers a sense of not only where we would fight but what our goals are around the globe? >> to piggyback on what david said and i'm curious what the panel would say. i read "the new york times" editorial and stepped back and asked myself, what would you say if someone asked what was the obama doctrine? you couldn't answer that question. with respect to george w. bush you knew what his broader foreign policy is. i couldn't decide whether defenders would say his prudence, i would guess. critics say overly cautiousness.
i'm curious what people think. there doesn't seem to be at this juncture and we're six years in, a definitive obama doctrine with respect to foreign policy. i couldn't pinpoint one myself. >> i'm not sure that's a bad thing. >> it might not be. i don't know. >> sam, i will tell you, you've asked the question here. stricken of the ideological binders and just talk to the ambassadors across the world, the foreign leaders across the world, and david ignatius has heard this more than any of us. if i'm wrong, let me know. that is the critique of the obama administration. that there's no over-arching policy. there's no vision. it is ad hoc in its approach. and again, this is not an ideological take. we have been hearing this from foreign policy leaders for four or five years. >> joe, i travel all over the world and i do hear that. there's a perception that this president is weak. problem is when you're perceived as weak, you're expected to do
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people are asking, will donald trump run again? and the answer is, does that thing on his head crap in the woods? i actually don't know. i don't know if that thing on his head has a digestive wbr id "wbr37380" system. welcome back to "morning joe." joining us on set. the senior senator from new york, democratic senator chuck schumer. and from washington, nbc news white house correspondent and host of "the daily rundown," chuck todd. chuck and chuck. we're going to talk about your chart and the minimum wage in just a moment. that was a good dinner. it was a great dinner. i enjoyed it. president was good. and mchale was good. mchale was adorable. here are some of the highlights from the responsibilities /b
dinner. >> olympic snow boarding medalist is here. we cannot believe what they do. death defying feats. haven't seen someone pull a 180 that fast since rand paul disinvited that nevada rancher from this dinner. as a general rule, things don't end well if the sentence started, "let me tell you something i know about the negro." just a tip for you. don't start your sentence that way. now that it's 2014, washington is obsessed on the midterms. folks are saying that with my sagging poll numbers, my fellow democrats don't really want me campaigning with them. and i don't think that's true, although i did notice the other day that sasha needed a speaker at career day and she invited bill clinton. >> mr. president, you have to
admit, and you already have, the launch of healthcare.gov was a disaster. it was so bad. it was bad. look, i don't even have an analogy because the website is now the thing people use to describe other bad things. they say stuff like, i shouldn't have eaten that sushi. i was up all night healthcare.gov'ing. boy, that latest johnny depp movie really healthcare.gov'd at the box office. look at my new rug. did the dogs healthcare.gov on it? you can't get that out of shag. >> that was funny. he was really good. >> yeah. it was a good night. >> so we've got a lot to talk about. >> we do. why don't we start quickly, though, a couple quick things. minimum wage. harold and i were talking about it before. joe manchin is coming on. how about a deal on minimum wage
where we help workers where you raise the minimum wage not to the $10.10 because democrats aren't going to get that. but maybe to $8.50, $9.00 in exchange for keystone. >> i think that's part of our bill on energy efficiency next week. we're willing to see a vote on keystone. each side thinks they're going to win. keystone is a lot less important than it used to be. since it started there's a ton of oil and gas here in the u.s. we used to say if it's not from canada, it's in the middle east. now we're talking about exporting it. >> let's not move the goal posts. keystone's still important, isn't it? >> it's a job issue and a safety issue. we're going to transport it by rail or water. natural gas exports, why not increase that as well? >> 9,000 -- last month 288,000 jobs. keystone, 9,000 jobs. it is not the issue that each
sides is making it to be. so minimum wage -- on minimum wage, why is $10.10 important to us? >> i want to go back to keystone for a second. >> okay. go ahead. >> pennsylvania is creating jobs across the state in pennsylvania that's not being created across new york state because this governor, the state legislature are over-regulating fracking. why don't we bring good jobs to upstate new york? they need good jobs. you're their senator. >> yes. >> what do you say to albany to get those good jobs in pennsylvania in upstate new york? >> well, i haven't stepped on the governor's issue on this one. he's being very careful because there are environmental concerns. but overall -- >> shouldn't he be a little less careful? >> overall democrats throughout the country has supported fracking. most of us have and it's worked well. >> would you like to see it in upstate new york? >> if it's done carefully. the governor feels it's going to
be done carefully, i sure would. you would? wow. well, you are just like -- good. we need it. do you think there has to be a deal on minimum wage where you split the baby, the republicans get something they want. democrats get something they want. now here's something we can use for a visual. like rattner on this show. that's pretty good. that's attractive. here's the minimum wage chart. we created 288,000 new jobs. jobs are going up. private sector jobs. but wages are going down. they're paying so much less there's less money in the average middle class person's pocket. there's a good argument for minimum wage. since the early 1970s, they've been going down. wbr id "wbr40780" look, i hear you. /b so that's why $10.10 is important for one reason. and important to us. which is it's the bare minimum, you work 40 hours a week and you get out of poverty. why we push it, you should have wbr-id "wbr40925" a fair shot of getting out of poverty if you work 40 hours a week. can you negotiate on the length of time on seasonal workers on other things? yes. and we've told our republican colleagues we would negotiate. but i'll make a prediction here. just like unemployment insurance, they know they're on the wrong side here. we'll get a deal on minimum wage within the next six months. i don't disagree with you. we should index it to inflation. but there has to be a deal. president clinton gave a big speech where he talked about how he was criticized for cutting the capital gains tax. he got 6 million children health insurance. he got 9 million people moved out of poverty. the only question joe's asking is how do we cut a deal? you can have that conversation offline. but natural gas exports will help overseas, create jobs at
home, and a larger stockpile of energy. there has to be some give and take there. >> we'll get a deal on minimum wage. there will be some kind of compromise. there are lots of different areas of compromise. and it'll happen. it's just that $10.10 is a pretty strong feeling on our side because it's the bare minimum out of poverty. if minimum wage back in 1960s with inflation would be $10.71 right now. >> senator, we had your colleague tom coburn on last week. he said there shouldn't be a federal minimum wage. the free market ought to take care of it. what do you think of those who oppose minimum wage, that it leads to the loss of jobs? >> economists are on both sides of that. i think what they don't do, those who say it will lose jobs, forget about all the money that would be pumped into the economy. >> i know. >> that creates. and they don't believe in that because that's dynamic scoring
on our side. i want to bring up one thing, our next fair shot agenda item. this week elizabeth warren will introduce legislation on making it easier to pay for college. two parts. first, you should be able to refinance. in other words, there are tens of millions of young people and their families who are paying on hundreds of thousands of loans. you should be able to get it down to 3%. we're going to push that. by the way, this is one of the biggest things hurting the market. i totally agree. let's have elisabeth on this week as well. we're pushing this middle class agenda. i agree. let me ask you about the midterm elections. new indicators show wbr-id "wbr42520" rough waters ahead for democrats. front page in the usa today, take us through that. the poll says republicans
have their biggest advantage in two decades. numbers show voters shifting away from supporting democrats over the last six months. a majority of voters say the president isn't a factor in their vote. but the number of democrats voting in support of the president's record has fallen 16 points since the 2010 elections. the number of republicans voting against his agenda has increased still. when compared to this point and george w. bush's presidency, the president's approval is nine points higher. voters have showed a deep desire for change during both presidents' second term. >> chuck todd, look at the usa today, not good news. not good news about the polls showing democrats not in good shape right now. that changes every week and a half. but look up top. i think you're going to see republicans holding this headline all day. health care spending up the most since 1980. of course it's only the first
quarter, but we're going to be having this debate over the next six months as well. what do you make of these polls? the nbc news poll, the abc news poll. it does look like democrats have some tough sledding ahead over the next few months? >> it's may. the best number they have to tout is the one that happened on friday. right? it's that jobs number. you know, the one unknown here is, you know, we've been told for three years that if there were some form of government certainty, then private sector in the economy would start to take off. we'd start to see some consistent moves. they got their budget deal in december. so we have a -- we have sort of two years of certainty. there are no major things that are sort of up in the air between the two parties right now between congress and the president. there's no giant standoff. if -- you know, the what if there is three or four straight months of what we saw on friday
where you have nearly 250,000 to 300,000 jobs created over that period? does that change the mind-set? to me it's about the only thing that could change the dynamic. because it does feel like we're not yet in concrete, but it's certainly a very heavy mix. it's drying quickly. that is of concern to democrats. the only thing that could change this dynamic, i think, is sort of this -- an economy that starts taking off that the public believes is taking off. >> sam stein, the sub-head on this top story, more americans visiting hospitals under obamacare. but last hour, though, you dug into the numbers. what do you find? >> well, this is sort of what was predicted when they were gaming out how the affordable care act would play out. which is as soon as you had a couple million people getting insurance for the first time, they would see doctors, they would go to hospitals. health care spending would spike. now, prior to this, health care
spending had been on decline. the question was was that because of obamacare or because of a sagging economy? i think we need to look ahead. i mean, the next couple months will be a big indication of whether or not health care spending is out of control. for the senator, i'm kind of curious along these lines. where is obamacare politically at this juncture? it's hard wbr id "wbr44670" to tell on the polls whether democrats have gained anything from those enrolled? how will it play in november? two things. i think the negatives will be somewhat lower. the positives will be somewhat higher. i'm not sure it will be in that positive. but i do think it will be less bad. i do think this and this is what all the polls show. joe's question is right. the good thing in the polls and that's why we're focusing on the /b
agenda. whether it's middle class wanls, whether it's getting the economy going, whether it's health care, anything like that. so when we talk about substantive issues, we win. and that's -- we're trying to get the agenda back. i think by november the kind of issues we're talking about, college affordability, equal pay, minimum wage, jobs going overseas. will predominate over obamacare. they fired their shot a little too soon. >> all right. >> willie? >> do you think if you look at obamacare more broadly as sam stein pointed out in the last hour, it's difficult to talk about national polls because each state is different this time around. but if you talk to republicans they feel there's a wind at their back. how do you feel about the senate? >> i feel we're going to keep the senate. >> you do? >> yeah. you look at the four key races. alaska, arkansas, louisiana, north carolina where we have incumbents in red states. they're ahead in each one. even kay hagen is ahead by two, but she's had $12 million of
unanswered commercials against her. and she hasn't even begun to put on her positives or go after her opponent whoever it's going to be negatives. so i think if you look -- this is how it always is. nationally it looks better for republicans right now. mainly because middle class incomes are declining. what we talked about here. and the public is sour. >> all right. >> but state by state looks much better for us. we will keep the senate. >> texas governor rick perry -- i want you to stay for this one -- has been mentioned among potential 2016 contenders. >> good luck. >> is being candid about -- my god. senator schumer. >> last time i checked, he's not on any rolls in republican primaries. rick perry is just fine. he talked about his disappointing bid for 2012. but he also suggested the door is far from closed for a political comeback. >> you ran in 2012. a lot of people thought that was a botched effort on your part. how do you get a second look now? >> i would tend to agree with them on the botched effort side of it. >> what went wrong? >> listen, i think america is a place that believes in second chances. i think that we see more character out of an individual by how do you perform after you fail and you go forward. >> in kentucky, multiple horse races converged at churchill downs. mitch mcconnell tweeted this photo inside the track. but it was senator rand paul who drew the most attention hosting media mogul rupert murdoch around the luxury boxes. murdoch, no no vis when it comes to the matters of political imagery, allowed himself to be paraded around for six hours like a prized horse behind a proud jockey. amounted to a message to more establishment republicans that as he put it, i'm very open minded. >> chuck todd, if you follow rupert murdoch's history in endorsing candidates, anything is possible including a possible endorsement of rand paul or hillary clinton. i think much more likely to endorse hillary clinton than any republican senator out there right now. but let's talk about the first thing. i've got to say, again, we absolutely pounded rick perry around this table in 2012 for good reason. he wasn't ready to run. he had some back problems, on medication for that. i know about that better than anybody else as far as what back pain does to you. this guy's looking pretty good in the early stages. are you a skeptic? >> you know, i know we're supposed to be skeptical of him because of it was such a poor effort. there's a part of me saying where's he going to raise the money this time? it's going to be harder for him to convince the major donors. that guy who showed up to "meet the press" yesterday, he's very comfortable in his own skin.
there's something about when a candidate loses and accepts responsibility for the loss, it's amazing they can turn around. look. we have a history of our presidents having been humbled by an embarrassing loss. barack obama got thumped in a campaign for congress. bill clinton lost a re-election campaign for governor that was probably the most campaign he ever ran. losing made him a better candidate. george w. bush lost his first race for congress. you know, losing can do that, can humble you in a way. i have to say i thought rick perry seemed like a happy warrior to me. you could see him just sort of being this sort of tortoise kind of candidate. >> do not write him off. 1988, bill clinton actually booed at the democratic convention. four years later he was their saving grace. he was so bad that he actually went on "the tonight show". >> johnny carson thing turned
over the timer thing. >> he was a punchline. and senator schumer, you know this. politics, things can change. you know rupert murdoch, he's from new york, you're from new york. >> yep. >> spent a lot of time with him. he could endorse a republican. he could endorse a democrat. i think it's all safe for us to say around this table here he's not going to endorse rand paul. >> he's a neocon. rand paul is the opposite. i don't think he'd bring himself to trust rand paul's instincts. but to go there, that was a smart political move for both of them. i admire that. one thing on the republican nominee in perry. he may be the comeback kid. here's the problem. the republican party needs to be somewhere in the middle. romney was sort of perry-like. but unless you move a little bit to the middle in the general election, you lose the only two candidates who have pushed the tea party off. christie, jeb bush. i don't think another candidate's going to come close
to -- >> mitt romney is a creature of the middle and he lost. >> he wasn't. >> john mccain was a creature of the middle and he lost. bob dole was, he lost. >> different america. it is. >> no, senator. >> yes. >> we are one america. >> hey, joe. hey, joe. could you imagine the chuck schumer ads that are going to get run against them? he just endorsed chris christie. >> no. they can push off the tea party. that's true. >> note to self. always book chuck schumer after the white house correspondents dinner because he is loopy and possibly inebriated. >> any republican candidate that pushes off the tea party will not only lose the primary. even if they pass the primary -- you need both sides. >> that's why we're going to win. you can't push off the tea party
and win the general. senator, you know what? you're fighting the last war. okay. we'll see. we will see. pinky bet. oh, my god. okay. senator chuck schumer, thank you. chuck todd, thank you as well. we'll watch you on "the daily rundown" wbr-id "wbr49390" on msnbc this morning. ahead in our 8:00 hour, senator joe manchin and senator tim kaine. and army veteran wes moore with a special look at vets overcoming extreme obstacles when they return from serving abroad. plus democrats say republicans are just playing politics by harping on benghazi. our next guest says they're just afraid to confront the truth. republican congressman peter king standing by. and then louis takes us behind the scenes for a look at the white house correspondents dinner. his look. and it's awkward and weird and all over the place. louis, i'm sure zbln lots of
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adams. he's the one person who kept his word throughout this entire process. and he brought about peace at tremendous risk to himself. now, he was saying there's no evidence against him. the only alleged evidence i'm aware of is there's two people both of whom broke with adams because they were opposed to the peace process. and they were determined to get gerry adams. they made this on tape to boston college. they're both dead now. these are the hardliners who hated adams. >> they hated adams because he was forcing peace on the ira. >> exactly. >> that's what was so surprising to me. this is a guy who every day walks around with a target on his back because he dared to make peace in northern ireland. and he dared to move away from the violence of that conflict. a guy that walks around and is
literally risking his life for peace in ireland is a guy now being arrested by irish authorities. i don't get it. >> it makes no sense at all. he was a person that was shot in 1984, he was almost killed. now he's being targeted by the ira by elements of the ira who are opposed to the peace process with the british. so he has put himself at risk. i think what part of this is is it's going to win big in the elections coming up in two weeks. i think there are elements in the blish security apparatus who don't want to see adams achieve these victories and they have not gotten other what happened 40, 50 years ago when there was so much on all sides. just last week the british government said it would not
announce the massacre of 11 catholics in belfast was carried out by british paratrooper unit in the '70s. i agree, by the way. i think they should end the investigations and go forward. >> there are horrors on both sides. we are in a time of peace. it's so irony just last week a close friend of our family who is from northern ireland and very supportive of the catholic position was actually grumbling about that sinn fein and gerry adams went too far. i said who would you vote for if not him? he said i'm going to vote for sinn fein because we have to move forward. then he's arrested takes us back to 1972. i just don't get pit. >> i want to turn now to benghazi. house speaker john boehner is forming a select committee to
focus on the issue. he says the white house misled the american people by withholding documents related directly to the attack. democrats are indicating they actually might boycott the whole thing. >> i do not know why at all any democrat would want to participate in this by boycotting it it just becomes a redundant and partisan republican exercise. it's only a matter of time before democrats raise the follow question. would there be a select committee if it didn't want to have the power to subpoena the former secretary of state hillary clinton for obviously reasons pertaining to presidential politics. >> congressman king, it's willie. you said the idea of a boycott is wrong. you said it would be arrogant. you say democrats feel they have something to hide. what questions do you have left about benghazi? what do you think comes out of this select committee? what's left to know? >> first let me just talk about
what george said there. to me the purpose of a select committee is to bring all of the elements together. right now there's too many separate parts involved and the whole picture can never be brought together. a lot of questions here. one, i have real questions. where was general petraeus during the entire time of the talking points? and as you look at the talking points and e-mails back and forth, clearly what happened here i believe is there was an ere ro for. the state department did not provide enough security. i understand these things. instead of owning up to that, they went to the phony story about the video causing this spontaneous demonstration. and from there you had elements from the white house like ben rhodes and people in the state department working to come up with a narrative so susan rice would go on television and tell a story. there's always politics. joe and i have been involved in a lot of political issues over the years, but i just feel when you're talking about four americans being murdered, the government, the president, the state department, the cia, the national security council have an obligation to tell the truth. and they have not done this to this time. >> i think it is hard to boycott something where four americans have died, you have an ambassador killed asked for more backup and support. even moving forward, how do we prevent this from happening in the future? i think it's going to be tougher for democrats. >> hard to do. though george's point about it being transparent as a matter of raw politics is true. to that point, one of the things that democrats and many others are concerned about is the notion this will be a transparently political exercise. and it will run on forever. so is there a way in which the select committee's duration could be limited so that you wouldn't be looking at the potential of an ongoing investigation that would go out all the way through the end of the 2016 campaign and conceivably 2017 if hillary clinton does happen to run. she may be president and being investigated over this. >> i support the select committee. i think there cab time frame put into it. this should not go on forever. from a political point of view, i think the worst thing republicans could be seen as is somehow encouraging a political fight over the fact that four americans were murdered. because it is so serious, we have an obligation to make it work, to make it work in an effective and efficient way. support the people on the committee making sure they function in a professional way and we not turn it into some kind of a show. it should be out of the way before the 2016 elections are in high gear. no doubt about it. >> all right, congressman peter king, thank you very much. good to have you on. >> good to have you on. >> thank you, joe. our own louis was in washington for the white house correspondents dinner.
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americans might pay attention to it. what do you think? >> i think what we need to do is get our hands on the documents that the white house has been withholding. i mean, that's probably what the american people want to see. so regardless of who chairs, the question is what type of cooperation are we going to see out of the white house. and waiting 20 months to finally release some of these documents and only after a request, that leaves everybody questioning. >> why is it important? democrats think this is overally ideological. why is it important to have a select committee? >> well, you had four americans die there. you had a political spin that went on for months and months at least through the election trying to assert that, you know, this was about a very different reality than the one on the ground. when it happened on the ground as you talked before, it was a terrorist attack. this is not what the administration wanted to spin to the public. so that's a political act. >> what's the theory beyond the question of how the talking points are put out by administrations all the time. it was a political campaign. there was a lot of uncertainty in the immediate aftermath about what happened. what's the theory of critics about what would be recevealed the worst case scenario? what's the dark part of what the failure was that happened? >> the conspiracy is the coverup itself, right? but if you want to call it a conspiracy. i don't know what else you -- what other conclusion you want to come to. you had a situation where you had people on the ground who needed to be defended. and you had a political act in the white house where they decided not to provide the assistance prior to the attack despite all the evidence and afterwards decided to say this wasn't because it wasn't an al qaeda attack at all. it wasn't a terrorist attack at all. it was spontaneous. >> we had multiple investigations of what happened in benghazi, right? media investigations, congressional investigations. >> and for the first time we get some insight into how they were trying to spin this as a political argument that get out there and emphasize, efmphasize this was not a failure of policy. yes, it was. it was a failure also to listen to your ambassador and other people on the ground who wanted the assets to help defend that compound. this is a real issue. >> at that point in time, what was our libyan policy? obviously ambassador stevens knew what he was getting into it. this was a country he had deep roots and ties to. but we all know from the coverage that got us to that point, the complete chaos that libya was. so if you're talking about a policy failure that led to some type of conspiracy, what is the
policy failure? >> the policy failure here is not listening to your assets on the ground. you heard the deputy chief admission, his testimony in the senate. you recall he relaid all the attempts to get things in place to defend. we now began to see that ran with the political spin that the administration was trying to sell at the time. that's one of the reasons, apparently, why they wouldn't allow the defense of the -- of the compound with the additional assets that might have protected those four americans. >> with hindsight being 20/20 in all of this, is the main reason this is flooked at now is becaue it's under hillary clinton who might be running in 2016. >> don't you think the main interest is it took 20 months to get to the bottom of this with a request that was made by an outside organization despite the fact that congress including my committee had requested these documents. if you wait 20 months to get a document, it's a question in terms of what the administration is up to in not coming clear with the oversight responsibilities that congress has here. >> all right, ed. thank you so much. and again, the most important thing both sides have to remember so much. again, the most important thing both sides have to remember, four americans dead. that's what we have to focus on and figure out how we make sure it never happens again. >> congressman ed royce, thank you very much. >> thank you, ed. >> coming up, liverpool hopes to win its first championship in three years. roger bennett skipping into the room. i have no idea what he's about to say because i can never understand him. ♪ where did you go, where did you go ♪ when the world called for speed... ♪ ...when the world called for stealth... ♪ ...intelligence... endurance... affordability... adaptability... and when the world asked for the future. staying ahead in a constantly evolving world. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. that's the value of performance. tigers, both of you. tigers? don't be modest. i see how you've been investing. setting long term goals. diversifying. dip! you got our attention. we did? of course. you're type e* well, i have been researching retirement strategies. well that's what type e*s do. welcome home. taking control of your retirement? e*trade gives you the tools and resources to get it right. are you type e*? the was a truly amazing day. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most. join today at angieslist.com
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mourniho. >> just don't do that. that's the buckner slip. >> 16 seasons he's dreamed of winning it. he gave the speech, "let's not let it slip lads" and then -- >> i was just saying i thought at first this was the bill buckner moment for liverpool. it wasn't the bill buckner moment because he wasn't the heart and soul of the organization for 16 years. it would be as if ted williams dropped a fly ball for the last out in the world series and stopped the red sox from winning. stevie g, to fall -- >> it's proof that god exists. >> oh, my god, what is wrong with you all? >> nbc sports, lever pool plays crystal palace. >> your prediction? >> i think anybody but arsenal will win. >> roger, thank you very much. >> mika, you are lovely. thank you are having me on. >> did you understand what he said? >> not a single word. >> as soon as the cameras go off, she's hammering me for information on norwich city. she knows more than she let's on. >> i do, i do. >> and coming up, senator joe manchion and -- >> some of us have to settle down, i like to dip my pizza in ranch dressing. do you know how they make ranch dressing? butter milk and sadness. alright, that should just about do it. excuse me, what are you doing? uh, well we are fine tuning these small cells that improve coverage, capacity and quality of the network. it means you'll be able t post from the breakroom. great! did it hurt? when you fell from heaven (awkward laugh) ...a little.. (laughs) im sorry, i have to go. at&t is building you a better network. there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where villages floated on water and castles were houses dragons lurked giants stood tall and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo: whatever you can imagine, all in one place expedia, find yours when la quinta.com sends sales rep steve hatfield the ready for you alert, the second his room is ready. you know what he brings? any questions? can i get an a, steve? yes! three a's! he brings his a-game! the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! this and this. whip up this. munch on that. and dine out on this. that's 7 days a week. no tracking. no counting. no measuring. and you'll start losing weight right away with our 2 week simple start plan. so jumpstart your summer and join for free. try meetings, do it online or both. weight watchers. because it works. i'm on expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. ready to plan for your future? we'll help you get there.
reason good evening, mr. president, or as paul ryan refers to you, another minority that relies on the government to feed and house your family. >> no respect from his boss, no chance to get ahead. i really wish eric cantor would stop writing me. [ laughter ] you can just pick up the phone, eric. >> governor, do you want bridge jokes or size jokes? i can go both. i can go half and half. i know you like the combo joke. i'm sorry, governor christie, i
didn't know i was going to tell it. whoever wrote it will be fired. so i will be a man and own up to it just as soon as i know how it happened. and if i find any wrong doing on my part, i assure you i will be dealt with. i just looked into it, it turns out i'm not responsible for it. justice has been served. >> can we just celebrate these pictures, by the way? it is so beautiful outside. after six months of just absolute garbage. look at that view, beautiful sunrise over the mall. it just gorgeous. >> and senator from west virginia joining the table, joe manchin. and the birthday boy, visor to
president george bush, -- >> 5/5/55. >> 55, wow. >> no, i'm 59 but i was born 5/5/55. >> we have chuck todd joining us as well. >> let's just talk a minute about chris christie. he actually -- he really looked good, he was in a good place, the jokes rolled right off of his back. we talked to him, we were going back and forth, we had a lively exchange -- >> i got right in his face. >> mark told this shot. we were debating book sells in new hampshire. he said i was selling a lot of books in new hampshire. i said i can sell more books in new hampshire than you. very good sense of humor. he seems to be in a good place,
mika. >> everyone talks about fat jokes and whether or not they're appropriate. >> i don't appreciate it because look at this picture. i've lost weight, okay? i'm not that fat. >> look at mika in that picture. look at how angry you look. you look scowling. >> well, it's a long story. there was a lot going on there. >> it's a party, mika. have fun! >> the first part of rehabilitation is the ability to laugh at yourself. >> that's a good point, though. i'll tell you something else he's doing. he is staying away, he's working in jersey, like we said he should. he's not going on national shows, he's keeping his head down. i thought for me a moment when i was just reading the "new york times" a couple weeks ago and there's this long story on bridgegate and whatever they call it. i get halfway through the story and i go vladimir putin is in russia right now. i don't want to keep obsessing about two lanes being closed back in november. and if i'm thinking about that as an analyst, i'm thinking a lot of americans are thinking, okay, fine, if he told the truth, let's move on. >> right, birthday boy? >> yeah, he's moving on. i think it's on to the next act. >> i don't know about that. i would say he looked physically terrific. we'll really happy for him about that. chuck todd, chris christie in terms of his appearance there and the whole story of chris christie being the butt of some jokes, what do you make of what happened over the weekend? >> that one joel mchale riff that you guys played, that was brilliant. that was just really well delivered. he hit the timing and it was pretty funny. but i agree with you. i saw governor christie. first of all, you can tell he's losing weight, he looks physically -- >> terrific. >> he's absolutely making progress. kudos to him. congratulations to the governor on that front. you're right, he looked like he was comfortable. he got a ton of incoming. you thought maybe that's three, four monies old, is that going to resonate. that one riff by mchale was hilarious. were like, my god, i think governor christie got picked on too much. >> i was sort of flinching. >> it oddly sort of helped him. >> apparently he took the jokes much better than our good friend donald. >> yes, he did. >> so joe manchion, let me ask you something, are you thinking
about leaving all of this stuff in washington, d.c., heading back home to west virginia? >> the only thing i have said is it not been a very productive time the last three and a half years. i said i want to contribute more. so i keep all options open. >> you can do something good every day, feeling like you've made a difference in someone's life, waking up excited to go to work given. i want to feel that given. i'm going to wait to 2014 to see what shakes out. i have a better platform in the senate to make a difference in the world, my country and my state. but if the leaders don't get together and it just going to be stalemate, i have to rethink it, too. i'm not a spring chicken anymore. >> you look great. >> you are a spring chicken.
come on. >> it's just a very dysfunctional place and culturally an unpleasant place to. a lot of people say, man, this is not a fun place to work. how much worse is it than you expected it to be? >> i didn't know what to expect from this standpoint. i always thought it was the highest honor in our country's public service to be able to serve in the senate. i keep hearing people say, well, it used to be that way in the good old days, it used to be this way. well, i've not been there when anything worked. where i come from from west virginia, you don't embarrass people and attack people every day and then expect to work with them. >> i'm expected to basically sit down across the aisle and raise
money against them and what's most important? the country moving forward? the bess government is good politics. >> and minimum wage, i asked chuck schumer earlier, can we get a compromise, democrats over $10, republicans still fighting. do you think there as a compromise, maybe $8.50, $9, throw in keystone, both side, compromise? whatever helps workers? >> keystone will be by itself -- >> will keystone pass by itself? >> it should pass. it passed last year by 62 votes. >> why isn't it passing? ilt ridiculous. >> no one can give me a good explanation why. >> let's go behind closed doors. is this really all about donors on the far left pushing democratic senators from doing what they know? >> those are donors that i don't know very well.
>> that's good. >> so i can't spack from that side of the bench, okay. with that being said, it doesn't make any sense and i don't think it helps democrats, especially democrats in challenging areas so we've got to move forward. 10.10 is great but if we can't get it, give me something. >> chuck todd did you want to check in. >> i want to ask you this, senator. you're not the first former governor who comes to the senate and says, oh, my god, what have i gotten myself into? there's a wheel caucus of you guys, about 10 or 12 of ex-governors serving as senators and you guys are the ones that sort of feel the dysfunction than others. because you were executives, you got to make aity signatures and see it implemented whereas here
you make a decision and see what government does with it. i understand that. why can't you guys get together and become a powerful caucus, lamar alexander, yourself, uch got mark warner. you guys are sort of are center left or center right in some ways. why aren't you banding to the and trying to become two pushbacks at harry reid and mitch mcconnell? >> we have formed a caucus and we are working together. some of those senators are not you for reelection. their state and their populous and basically where they have to be. the ten of us said, listen, we're going down this road together, swim or sink together, it would chang the whole country and change the world. i'm hoping we can break out of
this. it's becoming more contentious. no matter what happens, this election is going to be tight. no one is going to have 60 votes. people in the middle are going to start leading because the bottom lien is we've got to move forward on issues and the economy and the jobs -- >> so let's look at the landscape because new indicators are showing rough waters ahead in the mid terms. a pugh/"usa today" poll said republicans have their biggest advantage in decades. numbers show voters shifting away from democrats over the last six months. the number of democrats voting in the mid terms in support of the president's record has fallen 16 points since the 2010 elections. the number of republicans voting against his agenda have increased. still the president's approval is 39 points higher than
president bsh's rating. 65% are saying it's time for different policies under president obama. >> here's the "usa today" poll, they talk about how democrats in many ways are in worse shape than they were in between. but you know what? i remember 1994 and how it felt that year. i remember 2006 when democrats swept. you sure remember what it felt like that year. i remember what it felt like in 2010. all three of those years, i felt it coming. i'll be honest with you, i don't feel that. when i go out there, i don't feel -- i don't feel what i felt those three years. i remember telling republican friends in the beginning of 2006, don't run. brother, you're going to get killed. don't run. they ran, they got killed. i don't feel -- that doesn't man republicans aren't going to win. i'm just saying at this point in the election process, it doesn't feel like 2010. >> there's a little uptick in the economy if it continues. >> listen, i got to get more than three words out of mark mckinnon. i know it his birs day. >> maybe he's already prepared for it and that's why he doesn't want to talk on the air. how do you feel about republicans this year? is it going to be a big year or not? >> i don't think it going to be a tsunami but i think the republicans will keep the house and have control of the senate. i think they'll have control of boat john mccain jis. >> just very quickly, i think the reason you dent feel that way is when we normally have these wave years, the party that catches the wave has been out of power. the question is are voters so enamored with the party so-called out of power but are republicans fully seen as out of power or do they share some of the blame for the discussion in washington. i also remember 1998 when we were so so sure we were going to have a repeat of '94 and there would be an impeachment and it blew up in their face. what do you think? >> i simply look at the quality of the candidates we have. weep have the candidates in the most contentious races in the moderate, middle range. these are problem solvers able to work with us. when you look at kay haguen and mary landrieu, i think they'll success and they'll win. it will be close but these are the time of people need to keep in the senate. they're quality people that can work with both sides. they're not to the far left, for right. >> quick un-for-hypothetical. if you were running for election this year, one, would you ask the president to come campaign for you in west virginia -- >> no. >> and, two, would you run away from obamacare or would you embrace it in part or embrace it in whole? >> you can't go back to having the most expensive health care in the world and being 34th in the world in terms of longevity. i wouldn't have voted for what we had today. but what the problem and the
market as got to match up. if the product doesn't fit the market, the market will change the product. we basically have to get toward wellness. >> i to ask this following kwe following up. after newtown, when you go back, comfortably, if i ran into a republican primary anywhere in america, i would comfortably go and campaign on background chests for criminal will you comfortably take the position that ronald reagan took? >> i go back every day and talk common sense. >> and your nra friends understand it. you tell me you want to sell your gun that you have done know, sell your goon to someone you've never met on the internet but on the other hand i'm a law abiding gun owner, i'm not going to send it to a stranger or convicted felon or somebody who is not mentally stable or give it to a family member who is not worthy of it. if that's the case, don't you expect me to do the right thing on the internet? common sense is common sense. yes, it is. >> and your friends in west virginia -- >> i love joe. he's reasoning for governor, did you hear? >> happy birthday! >> mckinnon's been hanging out in colorado a lot. up know what that means. >> yeah, but he didn't need a law. >> coming up, wes moore joins us about his project on veterans and jim gaffigan will be here on set. be right back. weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the days to take care of business. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and responsive, dedicated support, we constantly evolve to meet your needs. every day of the week. centurylink® your link to what's next. can help your kids' school get extra stuff. they're the only cereals with box tops for education. you can raise money for your kids' school. look for this logo. only on big g cereals. you can make a difference. every cereal box counts. to get your client's attention. from brochures to business cards to banners. everything... except your client's attention. thousands of products added every day to staples.com, even bullhorns. how much? [ male announcer ] staples. make more happen. female narrator: the mattress price wars are on the mattress price wars are on at sleep train. we challenged the manufacturers to offer even lower prices. now it's posturepedic versus beautyrest with big savings of up to $400 off. serta icomfort and tempur-pedic go head-to-head with three years' interest-free financing. plus, free same-day delivery, set-up, and removal of your old set. when brands compete, you save. mattress price wars are on now at sleep train. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ all right. joining us now. from richmond's member of the armed services committee, senator t senator, you are ready for hillary. >> i am ready for hillary. >> what's her message? >> her message is she has the best experience both domestically and internationally. she has got the accumulated backbone, wisdom, judgment, scar
tissue to be the best president of the united states beginning in 2017. >> okay. >> he made the time limit. >> okay. you made some really good points about her, which i would agree with in many ways. but that's not the message. what's the message? >> i think best qualified is the message. best qualified is the message. this is something i thought a lot about. of everybody out there who could run, who is thinking about running for president, she is the best person to be the 45th president. a and also the relationship she has with leaders. but it's going to be hard. 2016 is facing off against the super pac sludge factory. if it was easy for a woman to be president, there would have been a woman president. if she's the right person and if it's going to be hard, the best thing i can do is get out early and start pushing. that's why i did it. >> not that there's anything wrong with it. another part of it is that she can win. >> my sense is i don't know national politics as well as i know virginia politics, but virginia is an important bellwether state. i feel confident if she runs she will win virginia's electoral votes and i think that means she has a great chance of being successful. >> obviously senator clinton looks incredibly strong right now for the democratic primaries and also the general election potentially for 2016 but nobody gets a free ride. >> absolutely. >> who do you think in the democratic field is likely to step up and run besides senator clinton? >> i've heard a lot of folks thinking of running, the vice president, governor o'malley, schweitzer and others. some of it may depend on whether secretary clinton runs or not. there will be competition. we're democrats. that's the way we do things. i don't have inside intel about her decision-making process. i would suspect she wouldn't decide until later in the year. there's a lot of names out there. no one has asked me for my support, even secretary clinton hasn't asked me for support. but in thinking about who might run, i think she would be our best president, our best candidate and i want to encourage others to do what i've done and get on board. >> this is robert thomas. you're trying to draft hillary into the race. so hillary is not ready for hillary, though you are. and i say republicans are ready because they want to continue talking about benghazi. as this continues to play out, this will be what happened in benghazi as long as republicans and reporters are interested in digging. >> hey, tom, ahomas, i think wet to be talking about bends but i think we ought to be talking about how to make sure it never happens given. coincidentally, later today i'm going to a former army base in virginia, fort pickett. i've worked with the state department to help them make plans for an embassy training facility there. we ought to be talking about how to reduce the chances of violence at our embassies around the world and how to make sure our people are safe. the congress is focused a little more on the blame game and that's not the issue here. >> senator kaine, come join us on set sometime. >> thank you. >> coming up, wes moore. and then expert food consumer jim gaffigan joins us with more of -- oh, that's not good. don't do that. don't do that. it's my book but that is so bad what you're eating. we'll be right back with more identify morning joe." ♪ everybody needs a place to rest, everybody wants to have a home ♪ ♪fame, makes a man take things over♪ ♪fame, lets him loose, hard to swallow♪ ♪fame, puts you there where things are hollow♪ the evolution of luxury continues. the next generation 2015 escalade. ♪fame he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. when sales rep steve hatfield books at laquinta.com, so he knows exactly when he can prep for his presentation. and when steve is perfectly prepped, ya know what he brings? and that's how you'll increase market share. any questions? can i get an "a", steve? yes! three a's! amazing sales! he brings his a-game! la quinta inns and suites is ready for you, so you'll be ready for business. the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! la quinta! afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. 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we could put a million troops on the ground in afghanistan. the question of afghanistan is never going to be a military solution, it's a political solution. >> let's talk about the military solution, what we're doing as a country for our returning vets and what we're not doing for our returning vets. coming back with wes moore, as you know, we're losing 20 vets a day to suicide. what are you revealing to all of us? >> with coming back, i wanted to show a sense of humanity of what we're talking about. these have been the nation's longest wars in the history of our country. the fact is the vast majority of americans have had zero connection to them. we wanted to add a as soon as of hu -- sense of humanity.
we have vets coming back with significant challenges that we are now responsible for because these are veterans who when were asked, stepped up. we have extraordinary men and women coming back with great skill sets we have to utilize better. >> there's a scandal going on in va centers, are things getting better there in terms of dealing with back log, all the medical issues and all the stuff that department's been so criticized for. are we seeing progress? >> the truth is we're seeing progress but it's still not fast enough. when we have situations where you have veterans who are waiting 36 months in order to so a doctor, we know we still got work to do.
the truth is, when our nation needed our veterans, we didn't ask our nation to wait. we stepped up instantaneously. so why when they come home are we asking them to wait. of lot of this comes down to the duration of the wars. i've been meeting with families and v.a.s all over the country. last week there were about 250 vets in a room. i said how many of you would have expected if i asked you 12, 13 years ago we'd still be in afghanistan? three people raised their hands. we also want more communication. a lot of veterans are waiting for feedback. we want to know what happens and
what's going to do so this does not happen giveagain. >> the phoenix story is horrific. for that to be the back story, it's shameful. wes moore, it premieres next tuesday at 8:00 p.m. "coming back" with wes moore. >> recently they introduced a breakfast hot pocket, finally! i can't think of a better way to start the day. good morning! you're about to call in sick. ♪ hot pocket." >> jim gaffigan is here on set with food. just like mika, he's obsessed. well, he's studying the hot
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book. >> i could eat this entire plate of hot pockets. >> doesn't do it! >> num, num, num. >> this is from the recall batch, right? >> breaking news. they discovered some of the meat was bad in hot pockets. >> they have meat in hot pockets? and people that eat hot pockets already knew. michelle obama is rolling offve in her bed right now. how dare you are eat that? >> i could eat ten of those. >> what else do you talk about? >> i talk about weddings being absurd. >> why are weddings absurd? >> because they're ridiculous. >> i agree. but tell us why. >> it's prehistoric, medieval ceremony where daughters were exchanged as property yet over
the course of centuries, it got worse. it's out of control what we do at weddings. joe, i didn't know we were going to talk about that. >> i haven't laughed once here. you're freaking out at this sight here. >> you're seeing a transformation here. >> it's a food coma. >> there's something that happens when you take a bite into a hot pocket, something that's so processed and so bad for you that you feel good. there's sugar in here, you know that? a lot. >> mika, i think you'd be better off if you were wearing a pair of gloves when you ate that. >> it brings you back to bad things. >> jim, you have a new pilot coming out, hopefully? >> please take it away. >> it features you living in an apartment with five kids, two bedrooms, the wife, the kids. >> we had a two bedroom and we finally moved. we're now in a one bedroom. >> career's going well, huh? >> so the pilot is -- i mean, it's a long shot but it's about my life being the father of five kids. >> it's an early standout. early standout. >> look at that family. >> somewhere in iowa, they created the hamburger called the gaffigan undead burger? >> yes. it's a zombie burger in demoan. >> your wife is adorable. how did you get her? >> brainwashing. >> maybe it was one of those traditional weddings you talk about. >> the burger, there's five patties, one for each of my children. there's jalapenos because i'm a spicy latina and cheddar because i'm a hot latina. >> thank you for stealing the title of my book. i love it. we should go on tour. jim gaffigan "obsessed." your children are adorable, your wife is beautiful. >> on the loose in washington. it just not right. i'm not sure about this but we'll have his report from the white house correspondents dinner coming up next. wondering what that is? that, my friends, is everything. and with the quicksilver card from capital one, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase. not just "everything at the hardware store." not "everything, until you hit your cash back limit." quicksilver can earn you unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you could possibly imagine. say it with me -- everything. one more time, everything! and with that in mind... what's in your wallet? [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay -- you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. learn about it at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? woman: welcome to learning. spanish in the car.c on. passenger: you've got to be kidding me. driver: this is good. woman: vamanos. driver & passenger: vamanos. woman: gracias. driver & passenger: gracias. passenger: trece horas en el carro sin parar y no traes musica. driver: mira entra y comprame unas papitas. vo: get up to 795 miles per tank in the tdi clean diesel. the volkswagen passat. recipient of the j.d. power appeal award, two years in a row. double agents? spy thriller? you don't know "aarp" thanks to the aarp tek program, this guy is spying on his new grandson. aarp tek gets people better connected to technology, to better connect with each other. with social media, digital devices and apps. if you don't think "hashtag love dad" when you think aarp, then you don't know "aarp" find more surprising possibilities and get to know us at aarp.org/possibilities so ally bank has a that won't trap me in a rate. that's correct. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that? uh, mark? go get help! i have my reasons. look, you don't have to feel trapped with our raise your rate cd.
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he said i was supposed to get up here and make the press laugh. there's nothing i like better than a challenge. >> what began as an intimate affair between the president and press has evolved into a big weekend. >> technology is playing a role in all of government and society. >> we just came from a party where we saw the cast of veep and the cast of "house of cards" all interacting with each other and it kind of blew my mind. >> if i could make a law, it would be that there is always a working budget. >> it is nerd problems. >> i am a nerd. >> there's nothing about my prom that was strong, man. >> organization, it's been a while. >> so the party's all weekend long at the white house correspondent dinner. but the brunch is the one you just don't want to miss. because jeffrey tambore is here. >> hi, joe! >> the best thing is that you always use this weekend to do something positive. >> today we're talking about dog tag bakery. it's a new bakery in georgetown. we're going to take disabled veterans and spouses and teach them how to bake and georgetown university continuing education program is going to teach them how to be entrepreneurs. >> tammy's right, it is a great cause. you're trying to change veterans lives and their spouses so they can become contributing members to society. >> i wore the same dress as the girl who stole my boyfriend. >> my prom, i didn't get any. >> if you could change one law, what would be it? >> i would abolish the death penalty. >> you might as well throw in legalize pot. >> i would make sure no setting member of congress would never be able to go out and campaign against another sitting member. >> free ice cream every day! >> the eagle has landed. let's go eat. >> it's a century-old tradition and one thing hasn't changed. it's all about who gets the last laugh. >> my favorite bit of yours was when you said you'd close the detention center at guantanamo bay? that was a good one. >> these days they give john boehner a harder time than they give me. that means the orange is the new black. and gridlock has gotten so bad, you have to wonder, what did we do to piss chris christie off? >> what's the strongest moment from your prom that you can remember? >> i didn't go to my prom. i stayed home and watched "60 minutes" with my dad. >> i went to the prom, i had a girl, she said yes, i showed up, i killed it. there's nothing else to remember. >> i'm definitely not a nerd. she is. >> i'm a nerd actually, yeah. >> if there's one takeaway from the weekend, play like a champion. >> well, clayton, it's been one hell of a ride. >> we're not going to get our deposit back. ♪ ♪ >> was that clayton? >> i think that was dayton. >> look at louis. >> is that real tequila? >> it is. ready? >> oh, that's awful. >> okay, it's time for chuck. >> everybody that goes to the white house correspondent dinner, most people actually never went to their prom so it really is like nerd prom. >> what do you get? >> that louis is the most charming idiot i know. happy birthday, man! >> thank you. >> 5/5/55. >> i want to salute great veterans. >> thank you. >> thomas? >> it's learned it's mark's birthday and louis smells like a gutter in tijuana. >> all right. chuck todd is next! second his room is ready. you know what he brings? any questions? can i get an a, steve? yes! three a's! he brings his a-game! the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! . time to take care of business with century link's global broadband network and cloud infrastructure. we constantly evolve to meet your needs every day of the week.
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this weekend that injured nine people. so far two have been released from the hospital. doctors say the prognosis for the remaining victims remains unclear. nfl teams are on the clock. the draft beginning tonight right across the street from at 30 rock. the event is going to last three days. experts expect a few surprises as any pro-draft predictions could be misdirection. all right. that's going to wrap up a thursday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ i really have not talked to jeb about the presidency. it's hard for people to believe. >> i don't know. i could see you forgetting you were the president. i could see that. you were the president. i'm pretty sure i've always been a painter. pretty sure. pretty sure i've always been a painter of cat and feet. >> good morning, everyone.
welcome to "morning joe." it is thursday, may 8th. with us on set we have the host of "mad money," jim cramer. it's great to see you. >> same. >> it's been awhile. >> too long. >> you still mad? >> oh, more than ever. >> good. >> we love that. >> on the other side of the emotional spectrum, he's not mad -- >> never. >> he's very passionate the host of ""ronan farrell daily," rona farrell. >> mommy gave him the support system. you were a doter. i've seen you two. >> is there a thing here? >> there's a thing. it's weird, but it's a thing. >> mother/son. wonderful boy. >> mother/son? >> so willie, i decided to change my plan. you know, we've been taking all the money we make here, right? and the coupons that phil gives us --
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like we do when we see each other except i'm not being paid to talk you. and you guys aren't paying us to watch. it's just guys talking. >> that's not the idea. >> facebook makes a ton of money. facebook's better. >> i don't need your details. >> sorry. >> what is twitter's plan to make money? presumably it started out as something fun but they had an idea how to turn profit. >> sponsored links. maybe you go there. click on something you don't want to click on, make a mistake, they get paid. >> i do that a lot. we have msnbc political analyst gene robinson. >> hi, gene. >> good morning. how you doing? i'm not mad either. >> you're never mad. gene's joyful. >> sometimes i'm mad, but today i'm not. >> we'll see if we can get you there today. >> joe manages on occasion. >> and jeremy peters.
good to have you on board. >> thank you. >> okay. republicans say their investigation into benghazi has nothing to do with politics. but they're facing tough criticism. republican congressman trey gowdy who is leading a select committee investigating the attack says it would be wrong to raise money off of benghazi. here's what he said on "morning joe" yesterday. >> i have never sought to raise a single penny on the backs of four murdered americans. there are two -- still and even in a culture of hyperpartisanship, certain things that ought to be above politics like the murder of our four fellow americans. >> well, he personally has not, i guess. can't speak for the rest of his party. 30 minutes earlier the republican congressional committee sent out this fund raising e-mail. from a website called benghazi watch dogs.com. the e-mail lets recipients link
to a page that asks for donations up to $500 and refers to them as benghazi watch dogs. >> willie, we yesterday had trey here. he was passionate. we agreed with him. i was warning democrats or republicans don't need to politicize benghazi. four americans dead. he comes out and says that and 30 minutes earlier his own party undercuts him and the credibility of his investigation by asking for $25 donations off of benghazi. give me a break. >> that's the problem right there. i thought yesterday trey gowdy was good on this show saying i'll do everything i can to get to the truth and not make this a political exercise. but all it takes a one e-mail like that to show the other side it is a political exercise. if they want to raise money off this issue. he said i'm not going to raise
one nickel over dead americans. then they did it yesterday. >> i don't know why political parties do this. political parties do it. it's the republican parties now that's been caught doing it. i mean, they have undermined the credibility of this committee. they need to promise they're not going to do it again over four dead americans with $25 donations. give me a break. >> it's disgusting. it really is hideous. if republicans expect this investigation to be taken seriously at all and not seen as the most naked of political exercises to animate the republican base in advance of the election, you know, look. there are a lot of democrats out there today saying as they were yesterday that this is all political. that this has nothing to do with a search for the truth. that it has to do with a search
for votes and contributions. and the party seems to be, you know, eager to give evidence that that position is right. so they better clean it up fast if they want to be taken seriously. >> john, why don't we reach out to trey gowdy's office and see if there's anything they want to say during the course of this show in response. >> i'm sure they will. he was very straightforward about where he stands. if i was him, i would be so pissed off. they really -- you know what? they really undercut his credibility. >> and with the number of hearings -- >> i'm sure they're going to hear from him. >> he has to establish this is different if he wants to sell this to the public. they've turned out 25,000 documents. there's been tens and tens of committee hearings and meetings. they've got to prove there's substance there. >> that undermines everything they're doing. >> don't you think, though, that
in a sense if you're looking at this strictly politically the republicans would be foolish not to capitalize on this. with i've been to these town meetings across the country and benghazi comes up repeatedly. you cannot overstate how much this riles up the republican base. ultimately that's what's happening here. >> yeah. >> trust me. this is -- this is an important issue for a lot of americans, but when the washington establishment seeks to exploit it for political purposes or democrats like to pretend that nothing went wrong there, then americans look at washington d.c. you know what? on either side. and if you're trying to fund raise 25 bucks off 4 dead americans, that's why americans hate the washington establishment. >> absolutely. >> on both sides. >> meanwhile, former secretary of state hillary clinton is weighing in on the new panel. she says it's time for republicans to move on. >> there are a lot of reasons
why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. that's their choice, and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> well, of course that's what she'd say. the white house in my opinion still stone walling. they hold back on important document where the white house ask coaching susan rice on what to say on the sunday morning talk shows. that began the center of this controversy. of course hillary clinton would like them to move on. they're not moving on and they shouldn't until the white house cooperates. >> it is in her best interest to move on as well. >> of course she wants it to move on. she's at the center of all of this. she was at the center of the 3:00 a.m. call. >> yep. perhaps there is no more vocal critic of mega donors koch brothers than harry reid.
in a one-on-one interview with chuck todd, reid clarified why he's going after the businessmen and not other big republican donors. >> it is the two richest people in the world. and they are in it to make money. that's their whole goal here. is they have zeros to their billions. and i don't think that's the case -- >> you don't think that's the case with adelson? >> i know sheldon adelson. he's not in this for money. he's got -- he's not in this to make money. he's in it because he has certain certain ideological views. now, sheldon adelson views are in keeping with the democrats. so adelson, don't pick on him. he's not in it to make money. >> he's not. by the way, we were just sitting here thinking -- i know. it's so laughable, gene. i read my forbes richest people
in the world, they're not the two richest people in the world, first of all. >> they are quite rich. >> i'd like their money, don't get me wrong. but don't say they're the two richest people in the world. >> i don't think that's the problem. >> saying sheldon not in it for the money. but the headline in today's "washington post," what does it say? >> it suggests that sheldon adelson is benefitting from his donations. he has donated to candidates around the country. many are siding with him to try and outlaw online gambling. adelson is, quote, playing three levels of chess. even bringing on democratic strategists including former senator blanche lincoln of arkansas to beat back competitors pushing online gambling. you can see more of that interview with chuck when he joins us at the 7:00 hour. >> gene's still laughing. it's because he loves america
and gene's happy. >> aren't we shock snd we're shocked, shocked, that billionaires would like to make more money. >> shocked. >> and we think it's fine that they're giving lots of money to politicians so they can make more money. and advance their interest. >> harry reid says he's doing it because he loves america. >> well, you know, god bless him then. but he happens to live in the state of nevada, doesn't he? >> oh, i never really put that together. oh. hold on. hold on. i'm connecting those dots right here. okay. thank you. >> i'm always looking out for false equivalences. i think we buy into that too often. but here's a direct equivalent. it's absolutely true. >> it's just direct. >> yeah. they're trying to make more money. anyhow, don't get me started. >> jeremy, harry reid is so obsessed with the koch brothers, they're going to have to take out a restraining order pretty
soon. but is this strategy working? he's banging this drum every day. is it working as we look at some of these races that come up in '14? >> i guess we'll know when the democrats release their next round of fund raising numbers. that's primarily what this is. it's a strategy to get democrats worked up about the involvement of these billionaires who could really with all of their money and all the spending they're doing in races on advertising could tip the balance. you know, i think this works, this strategy of going after the koch brothers works where they have business interests. that happens to be in the most contested states with senate races. alaska, north carolina, for example. where i think it gets a little bit harder for the average voter to connect the dots is in other places where the kochs are just more of a name. and that's all. you saw the latest "wall street
journal"/nbc news poll that still half of americans don't know who they are. that's consistent with a poll a few months prior to that. on the other happened, half americans know who they are. >> quickly, jim cramer, tell us. there's huge money in this. one of the funny things about what harry reid said, funny as in contemptuous, there is so much money involved in gambling, in casinos and this is as cut throat a business move. fine, let him do it, show him adelson can do. he's trying to kill online internet gambling across america. >> it's addictive. you don't need to go to the casino. >> willie, you know this. i have always been against online internet gambling. go ahead. >> the thing he has to worry about, he has to make sure that relations with china are good.
his big profit center is not in this country. it is over as the gambling mecca. and he has done incredibly well. the internet gambling, look. it's easy to kill because all you got taught is be able to say younger people get in that shouldn't. younger people can gam l. the statistics on addiction is major. >> online gambling is a horrible idea. >> horrible. >> and i've seen it first hand with a lot of people. again, just -- there's tons of money involved in this. when harry reid says that sheldon adelson is doing it because he loves america and has nothing to do with making money. >> the share will get hit if it takes off. and get hit if china cuts off the cap. >> here's the problem. when you have that kind of a wallet, you can change the law on goomabling.
if you go down the list. harry reid has that obsession with the koch brothers. we also see it as a bigger problem. it's on both sides. money's taking over politicians. it's not speech. and to the extent it is speech, it needs to be much more regulated. >> if all those people you named could only be in it for the same reasons sheldon's in it for. we'd be a better koun troy. see the flags behind me, i love america too. in case anybody didn't know. >> okay right here. one more big story before we go to break. first lady michelle obama is lending her voice to an international push to rescue nearly 300 school girls kidnapped by terrorists in nigeria. she tweeted this photo and the message it's time to bring back our girls. the islamist militant group behind the abduction is being blamed for more violence. officials say hundreds of people were killed when gunmen attacked a village near the border with cameroon. militants reportedly opened fire
at a crowded market on monday before setting fire to neighboring homes. survivors say the massacre lasted for hours. the village was apparently used by troops in their search for the missing girls. police were offering a $300,000 reward for information that helps find the young captives. the girls were kidnapped three weeks ago and the terror group is threatening to sell them into slavery. the incident has sparked outrage across the world. former secretary of state hillary clinton spoke about the kidnappings criticizing nigeria's government. >> the seizure of these young women by this radical extremist group boko haram is abominable, critical, it's an act of terrorism, and it really merits the fullest response possible first and foremost from the government of nigeria. the government of nigeria has been, in my view, somewhat
derelict in its responsibility towards protecting boys and girls, men and women in northern nigeria over the last years. >> pretty tough there on the nigerian government. there was an ap account written up yesterday that gave basically a blow by blow of what happened during the kidnapping. there was a call from the school. they had lead time. someone tipped them off by two hours these guys were coming. they called the nearby military barracks, no help came. these guys were able to flee into the vast park where they are now. what can the united states be doing beyond what we've done so far which is to send support? >> i think that technical support team will help a lot. it's the help they need. but it reveals a larger problem. african terrorism is on the rise. it is attacks by al shabab, al qaeda affiliates. i think this technical support team needs to be the kind of
support we have in place in general. >> the united states? >> absolutely. african is predicting this is the next front in the war on terror for a long time. we just haven't done enough. >> gene? >> i think it's kind of a mistake to see boko haram as a pure terror group. in fact, it's more of a criminal enterprise. what we're talking about here, i think, at base is human trafficking which has been going on in that region, in that part of nigeria for a long time. the borders are for porous. they kidnap the wrong set of girls with the wrong set of parents this time. and they happen to get this #bring back our girls to trend and catch fire and drew the world's attention. you know, this is a group -- yes, it has now the islam iic ideology, but they've been disowned by al qaeda. saying, jeez, these guys are
crazy. they don't want anything to do with this. this is also just criminality that the nigerian government, frankly, if not complicit has been at least willing to ignore what's been going on. and former secretary clinton is right. they should be held to account for that. >> gene, thank you. still ahead on "morning joe," congressman elijah cummings who says congress holding lois lerner in contempt is a throwback to the mccarthy era. he joins us on the 7:00 hour. plus tonight is the start of the nfl draft. it's our chance to bring in former nfl coach jon gruden. >> you know what? us doing that, i'm sorry -- >> what? >> that's a throwback to the mccarthy era. next you're going to tell me we have donny osmond. >> oh, we have donny osmond. >> seriously? >> he's a little bit country. >> so he wasn't talking about
the '68 election? >> no. >> we're going joe. >> up next, michele bachmann takes a strong stance against women's history. her reason in our morning papers. >> mike allen's here. he's got the politico playbook. but first here's bill kairns and a throwback to mccarthyism checking our forecast. bill, this rain -- this rain, sir, is un-american. sir. sir. >> it is. maybe we'll have congressional panels on that shortly. the rain going on in new york also back through areas of pennsylvania. it's all kind of associated with what happened yesterday in the central plains. five tornadoes were reported and a lot of large hail. that was the big predominant thing that happened. we saw numerous reports of golf ball sized hail from minnesota to texas. this video comes from oklahoma. some of this stuff was enough to put some dents in your cars. we're going to do it all over again during the day today. as far as the new york city area
goes, all morning long into probably the early afternoon, periods of light rain. it's a narrow band. so if you're down from philadelphia southwards, you should be just fine. look how warm it's going to get. into the 80s today from pittsburgh all the way back to the washington, d.c., much cooler in boston. the big story will be the middle of the country again. it is may. this is our severe weather season. unlike last week, this isn't going to be a huge tornado outbreak. but if we're going to focus on one area, it's that area in red that poses a moderate risk of severe weather. it's going to be widespread in this little area from just south of minneapolis, southern minnesota, all the way down through central iowa including the ames and des moines area. we'll see one or two strong tornadoes. along with those, large hail is likely. that's where all the storm chasers will be later this afternoon. if we have any of those storms, we'll bring them to you and give you the details. the rest of the country looking just fine in the southeast. we leave you with a shot of a fairly rainy new york city on
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the chicago tribune. high school seniors fail to show progress on reading and math exams. in addition, 3/4 failed to show math comprehension. it's only a slight change from 2009 when the national exam was last administered to 12th grade students. the news gets worse. >> "the washington post." the national history museum bill passed yet despite pushback from some including congresswoman michele bachmann. she said the proposed museum in d.c. may put too much emphasis on the feminist movement. >> -- in opposition to this bill because i believe ultimately this museum that will be built on the national mall on federal land will enshrine the radical feminist movement that stands against the pro-life movement, the pro-family movement, and the pro-traditional marriage movement.
>> the potential museum would be funded by private donations. and a new report from "usa today" says despite invested more than $26 million, the national guard failed to sign up any new recruits. e in 2012 the guard saw nearly 25,000 potential recruits associated with nascar-related programs. only 20 met the qualifications and not one of them joined the service. >> "the washington times" fears about the impact of the sequestration cuts were exaggerated. only one federal employee lost a job. one. >> washington, d.c. oh, sequestration. oh, locusts are going to descend from the heavens and chew the flesh off the bones of 200,000 federal employees. one person lost their job? seriously? seriously? >> one. >> liberals were jumping out the
window saying it's over. sir, it's over. sir. give me a break. >> the report also found virtually every federal agency reduced bonuses, travel time, and overtime. >> and the charlotte observer, pop star clay aiken. >> i love him. >> he should have beaten ruben. >> he so should have. how do you know that? that's true, you know? >> i know. he sang "bridge over troubled waters." >> i know. it was amazing. >> he was great. so they're fighting through this democratic congressional seat. reports say aiken is holding onto a slight lead. but crisco with perhaps the most unfortunate name in this year's political campaign still says the race is too close to call. crisco says he's not going to concede despite trailing by 369 votes. >> he should -- come on. he should sing a song.
>> you weren't a ruben guy? i thought he deserved to win. >> really? >> we can argue about this. >> clay's skills were better. >> he's a great singer. >> let's hope he edges out crisco. wait, why are you laughing? >> it's just in politics it feels like that's a tough name. >> crisco is like oily? >> yeah. >> crisco party. stuff like that. >> he just might win though. let's see. with us now in new york again the chief white house correspondent for politico mr. mike allen. good morning. >> good morning. happy draft day. >> happy draft day to you. right across the street. we'll talk about that in a minute. let's talk about keystone not whether or not it's going to get through or whether or not the president will approve it, but it's huge in washington. you've got lobbyists on this, oil companies, there's a lot of money already being poured into this operation. >> turns out that keystone is definitely good for the economy. the d.c. economy.
politico added it up. tens of millions of dollars is being spent on it. the irony here is when both sides really drove down, if you will, it's not a game changer either for the economy or the environment. but it has become such a symbol, you can compare it to years ago, acid rain. which was a decades-long fight. and so both sides are using this as a proxy for climate fights to come. and so not only do you have tons of advertising in d.c., you've noticed at the metro stations especially around capitol hill, around the state department, all over those particular stations, there's signs about keystone. tons of ads on our tv. and all these fake groups, you know, vets for energy and americans for jobs. you can trace it back and figure out it's either for labor or for the oil bobry or one of the
interested groups. >> putting the business fortunes aside, is the keystone pipeline a good thing for the united states of america in terms of jobs and energy? >> i think it's undeniably good for jobs. it takes a huge number of people to build a pipeline. and the kind of skilled jobs you like. >> that's why laborers are for it. >> yes. if they don't build it, they will have to take it by train. or it's going to go to china. and china is not going to refine it as well as we do. what happens in china four days later goes to los angeles. i think the climate change people are very u.s.-centric and don't understand the global politics of it which is canada wanted to send it here, it's a little cheaper and better. but they will send it away. it's not going to come out -- stay in the ground if there is no pipeline. i agree with you in terms of this thing has become much larger than it really should be. because there's lots of ways to get oil to refineries in texas and louisiana. this is just one of them. but it is the fastest and it is
the quickest. >> what's your hunch, mike? does this get approved down the road? >> a long-time belief was the president would improve it. after the delay, people were not so sure anymore. >> yeah. 2016. >> but it's a part of the odd coalition. you have obama consultants on both sides of this fight. >> right. mike allen, it's a fascinating look at washington if nothing else at the moment. >> have a great day. coming up, the obsession with disney's "frozen" keeps growing. moms love it, kids love it, marines love it. it's politicians' turns. we have the parody ad. but first how will the nfl owners react if an owner went on a racist tirade like donald sterling. richard sherman will weigh in. we'll have that next. ♪
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♪ all right. time for some sports. cramer and i were talking before the show about kevin durant's speech. >> watch it. you will feel great about this country. watch this speech. >> the part to his mom was beautiful. but if you watch the full
11-minute speech, he goes down the line. every teammate and talks about each about why he loves them and what they mean to him. and this is at his mvp conference. >> no notes. this is a speech that must be watched. everybody feels that athletes are selfish, just out for the money. you watch this and you will say the finest isn't. >> you will cry. you've got to watch the whole thing. last night on the court in the playoffs, the thunder -- >> don't we have someone on today? >> his mother's coming on. >> isn't that cool? >> thunder and the clippers during the semis. durant playing like the newly crowned mvp. he had 32 points. thunder win 112-101 to even up the series one game a piece. in indianapolis, pacer had to have this one after losing the first game at home. and roy hibbert who'd been criticized for disappearing all playoffs long had a huge game
last night. season high 28 points. the big man wakes up. the pacers beat the wizards. that series now tied. playoffs continue tonight with the nets in miami and the spurs hosting the blazers for another pair of game two conference semifinal matchups. that first game wasn't close. >> they will win one back in brooklyn. >> none of that matter nous. >> they have turned brooklyn around. 2 million people, never knew it was a city until the nets came. >> they had a good team this year too. richard sherman is cashing in. he became the highest paid cornerback in the league after signing a four-year contract extension worth $40 million in guaranteed cash. that makes him the highest paid corner in the nfl. but it wouldn't be a sherman story without controversy. he was talking about donald sterling's ban from the nba. he told "time" magazine he
doesn't believe roger goodell would have dolled out the same punishment. quote, we have an nfl team called the redskins. i don't think the nfl really is as concerned as they show. the nfl is more of a bottom line league. if it doesn't affect the bottom line, they're not concerned. his contract extension goes right in. >> richard sherman said i had the best imitation of him. >> can we see it? >> i'm off my game. >> you can't say that. >> dwooel it at the break and we'll decide. >> real quick, we've grot jon gruden coming in coming in in a little while. he'll be hosting the draft. what do your eagles need? >> our general manager has said we need a cornerback, need a safety. kelvin benjamin, i still think it goes that way. >> okay. we will talk to jon gruden in the 7:00 a.m. hour. and al 8:00 -- >> and ahead --
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in planned military exercises of the country's nuclear forces. it's a mixed signal following putin's announcement he's pulling his troops back from the border with ukraine. joining us now on set, editing manager of "time" magazine. she's here to talk about the latest issue with pooutin on th cover. what does he want? >> i think the first thing he wants is to erase the memory of the 1990s where russia was being humiliated by the west. but i don't think he wants open war. i think what we saw last night is he was losing control of what was happening in senior ukraine. >> one amazing photo, by the way. show the photo. >> you should know our correspondent in reporting the story was dragged out of his car, pistol whipped by pro-russian separatists, taken captive. it is a very dangerous story to be covering.
i think that putin among other things realizes it is not possible to control some of the passions that are being unleashed. and so i think part of what we saw last night, has not pulled the troops back from the border yet. but by lowering the tensions, i think some of that is this was getting outside of even his control. >> is anybody in russia that can challenge vladimir putin on any front? or is he a de facto czar? >> in the course of these last weeks where his approval rating is back in the 80s, he's cracked down on bloggers, social media, so he's making it much harder. >> been killing journalists for years. it's just -- >> nancy, why is he so popular inside russia? >> well, i think it does go back to a proud country that did feel
humiliat humiliated. the line between nationalism and patriotism and dangerous global threat is a continuous one. and i think there's been a lot of public support for it. but i also think no one wants to be saddled with a failed state or a long slogging bloody war which is what would happen if he had to send troops into ukraine. >> gene robinson, inside the magazine in the package about russia, there's a piece from our buddy john meacham. meacham says the president's critics say he's weak and whiney but he's doing what most presidents do, muddling through. a couple months into this thing bb how can we assess the president's moves? >> okay, i guess. i don't see what else the president could have done. he has european allies who have to come along who are reluctant to apply tougher sanctions.
it's not clear that tougher sanctions would deter what russia has been doing in any of that. i think nancy is absolutely light about what putin wants. i think he wants to be remembered with the great after his name. he wants to be putin the great like peter the great in the transition of the czars. and that's how he thinks of himself. and i think ukraine is kind of very special to him and to russia. i think president obama kind of understands this dynamic and has done what can be done to try to contain it with the understanding that there's not that much we can do. we're not going to send troops, but we're going to reinforce nato and send a signal that, you know, you can't go but so far. >> couple other pieces. you have it's time to let teenagers drink again. the age 21 rule pushes kids
towards pills and other anti-social behaviors. >> this is camille arguing a libertarian argument that the drinking age of 21 makes no sense. and part of her argument is that we are depriving young people from the ability to learn how to drink responsibly and socially in a sort of public setting that's been part of european culture, obviously, for centuries where you might get a glass of wine at a family celebration. and you learn how to use alcohol responsibly. what's happened with the 21-year-old drinking age which was instituted with the best intentions is it's driven drinking unmonitored. we've seen a huge increase in binge drinking. >> we're seeing it -- let's be transparent here. we live in the same town. >> we do. >> and we're -- let's not even talk about 18 years and older. i'm struggling. i have two teenagers.
the drunk kids that stumble around our town every friday and saturday night. i'm talking most of them. most of them. freshmen, sophomores, juniors, seniors. >> and those are high school kids. >> and they're binge drinking. how would this help? >> i don't think anyone is arguing that high school kids should be, you know -- >> but doesn't this bring it closer to -- i mean, if you move it down to 18, isn't that going to actually move the problem of children starting earlier to even younger? >> we already have the problem of children starting earlier. and i think what she is arguing is that we have made it impossible to help as adults to help them learn the difference between irresponsible drinking. >> so we've got to go, but also just let people know also you've got a story on a fascinating book by 43-year-old -- interesting title. marx 2.0.
i was looking at -- saying that. >> thomas has caused a stir in financial and political circles. arguing that debate on the table. >> fairly obvious as far as the problem goes. people make more money on the investments than the rest of america makes on labor that we're going to have inequities. >> so his mainly opposite argument that wealth will trickle down, he's saying as the wealthy control more capital and the capital increases faster than the economy grows, that has the economy grows you're going have growing income inequality. he likens to where the u.s. is now to where france was in about 1789. >> we know now that went. we'll check out the latest edition of "time." thank you, nancy gibbs. coming up, harry reid knows one big difference between koch brothers and sheldon adelson.
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big cash settlement, but i promise you a big cash settlement. one of my favorites. >> joining the table, the very injured and in pain and she's always in pain when she's sitting here with me, but today issue just in pain. and the host of msnbc now alex wagner joins us. and in washington, nbc news chief white house correspondent and political director chuck todd. >> chuck did it. >> here we go. back off of chuck. >> jim cramer, jeremy peters still with us as well. >> what? >> nicole is blaming you for her injury. >> she is now. >> he had that door rigged. >> how did she snow? the trickiness of powers at 30 rock. >>. >> who would blame you after all the terrible things she said about you? you spoke with senator harry
reid yesterday and talked about why he was going after some businessmen and not other businessmen. take a look. >> they are the two richest people in the world. they're in it to make money. that's their whole goal here is to add zeros to their billions. i don't think that's the case -- >> you don't think that's thes say with adelson? >> i know sheldon adelson, he's not in this for money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. now, sheldon adelson views are keeping with the democrats on choice, all kinds of things. don't pick on him. he's not in it to make money. >> don't pick of sheldon. >> but the headline above the fold in today's "washington post" suggests sheldon adelson is benefitting from this
donations. he's donated to groups around the country and many are siding with him to try to outlaw online gambling. adelson as one of his team members called it is playing three levels of chess. even bringing on strategists including blanche lincoln of arkansas to pushback online gam ling. >> jim cramer and i were talking about how destructive online gambling is and the addiction it causes. this is about harry reid. and for harry reid to say sheldon adelson is not in it for his business interests seems absurd. >> it certainly is a reminder that i've always said nevada is a one-party state. and that party is the party that takes place on the strip by the guys that own the strip. and it does seem as if it is amazing in some ways how you see this in nevada where members of
both parties will line up and be supportive of these casino moguls. reid yesterday with me essentially endorsed brian sandoval, the republican governor. there's this power structure there that they all just sort of -- they're not as aggressive against each other if -- and you have to ask yourself if it's because the casino folks are happy. then others are happy. it was amazing to me what he said about adelson. >> -- when the governor may be running against harry reid two years from now. >> well, you know, reid's reasoning by the way was because there's no good candidates running against the governor. and it sounds like maybe you kill them with kindness. >> all right. i want to show another part of your interview. senator reid also weighed in on the prospect of hillary clinton running for president again.
>> everybody knows i love the clintons. including chelsea. >> and do you want her to be the nominee? do you think there should be a healthy primary process? >> why nopt -- i rarely think primaries are healthy. >> oh, you don't think they're good for democrats. >> for anybody. >> why's that? >> 'em being facetious. >> you think it would be better for secretary clinton if she has a serious democratic rival. i believe that the primary was with obama and clinton was an extremely healthy process. i think it was wonderful. >> i think you are going to be in a new category, chuck, of fantastic awkward moments. >> that was strange. >> my god. >> but mika and joe, they all revolve around the same topic. >> yes, they do.
>> hillary clinton pen people that didn't support her in '08. and you asking -- i'm just saying, that's two. i'll wait until there's a third before i decide there's a pattern. >> i think there is a pattern. i've seen it too. and i think it happened yesterday on our set before you went all -- everyone on the set we were talking about a story related to the clintons and everyone like this. >> sort of froze up. >> then you just went off which is good. >> yeah. still some -- >> i don't know. let's try alex wagner on this. >> alex, here's harry reid, the guy who went to barack obama way early in his senate career and said you need to run for president. >> where is he on hillary? >> he's not ready for hillary. i love the clintons. i don't want her to be the nominee, but i love the clintons. >> well, this is like -- the myth making and the fear amongering around the clintons like don't cross them otherwise a door in the floor opens up.
also they are the future of the democratic party and incredibly accomplished. >> is that true? the door on the floor opens up. >> we are led to believe there is this clinton industrial complex where names are kept, sins are recorded. >> whether or not they are pouring over their notes on a nightly basis would be up for discussion. you can see in his -- especially now that barack obama is gone. >> saying he wants a healthy primary process. >> joe -- >> we're seeing this more and more. some hesitancy among high-profile democrats. not just blindly get behind hillary clinton. >> you wonder if it's -- look. you know, everybody's trying to
figure how do they handle this stuff behind the scenes? were there real bitter feelings among the folks who pick eed oba over clinton. i mean, jim clyburn has told us about his uncomfortable phone call. you can't help but wonder that the way things went down in '07 and eigh'08, that when all this momentum was going towards obama, that maybe some of these wounds didn't heal inside the party. as much as we'd like to think they did. >> we talked about south carolina and jim clyburn. that was really ugly when the race card was allegedly played by bill clinton. things got really ugly there. but nevada, there was also that scene of bill clinton wandering around the strip accusing the democratic apparatus out there of fixing the election. >> which is code for harry reid.
right? >> right. accused harry reid of fixing that primary too. so there are obviously a lot of scars from 2008. >> that's what i think it is. scar tissue. >> really? i think it might be more of what alex is saying, but i'm scared to say it. but i just did didn't i? you did, didn't you? >> yeah, kind of. i think. don't tell anybody. >> there are reports at some point everyone has to get on record saying this is the deal. and we've seen it in the press too. anyhow, let's move on to the attack in benghazi in 2012 which has nothing to do with politics some say. but they're facing strong criticism this morning for attempts to fund raise off the attack which left four americans dead. republican congressman trey gowdy who is leading a select committee in selecting the attacks says it would be wrong to raise money off benghazi. here's what he said on "morning joe" yesterday.
>> i have never sought to raise a single penny on the backs of four murdered americans. there are -- still and even in a culture of hyperpartisanship, certain things ought to be above politics like the murder of our four fellow americans. >> but about 30 minutes earlier, the national republican congressional committee sent out this fund raising e-mail from a website called benghazi watch dogs.com. the e-mail lets recipients link to a page that asks for donations up to $500 and refers to them as benghazi watch dogs. >> nicole, i agree with trey. don't fund raise off of the death of four americans. and yet the same morning the nrcc is trying to give donations of $25 to $500. >> it's stupid. and i think it's going to stop because it's unsustainable. the select committee is going to go forward and be taken seriously, they have to stop.
what fascinates me about this story is democrats have no appetite to get to the bottom of why susan rice who to me is one of the most promising women and competent which in the obama administration, was denied the privilege of serving as the country's secretary of state because of what she said in large part because of what she said on five sunday shows. what she said on five sunday shows was we now know crafted by the white house. why don't democrats want to know how that message came together when it resulted in literally -- that secretary of state post was ripped out from underneath her because of what she did on the sunday shows. we now know the white house shaped that message. and the fact it's so political, that democrats have no appetite for understanding why she said what she said, i don't believe in the moment the white house is covering up what happened. but i think they are not being forthcoming about how those
messages were crafted. >> and they're asked -- i said a couple days ago if i'm practicing law and a judge asks for discovery and i'm supposed to turn over everything pertaining to one subject and i don't turn over a document that goes to the heart of it which said susan rice, you are to say this and not this and came from the west wing, a judge would hold me in contempt of court. i would go to jail. and in the first place, they're trying to show hillary clinton. they're not going to find this out in the investigation. they're trying to show hillary clinton as quote, too tired, to go on the sunday talk shows. so they shove susan rice out there on something she's not qualified to talk about because it's not under her jurisdiction. it was under hillary's jurisdiction. then they gave her talking points on an issue she hasn't been following. scene she's basically set up to be knocked down. >> okay. couple things. i would just say 13 hearings, 25,000 pages of testimony.
if that's not some kind of appetite to explore this, i don't know what appetite is. >> we're still in documents that the white house is holding back. >> i think it's fair to ask the question why was this -- >> all those investigations obviously didn't mean a whole lot, did they? because the white house we just find out last week is not cooperating. >> alex is right. the cia and the state department turned over enough information that we learned a lot of important things. these were not state department outposts which is a good fact for hillary clinton. they were cia outposts. that made the financial issue not a political football. and alex is right. there were hundreds of thousands of pages turned over except for the document created in the west wing. and let me tell you something. as the white house communications director, when the white house sends out talking points for a sunday show, they trump anything that came from anywhere else. >> but if you re-read that e-mail, i mean, everybody has focused on one of the four talking points. the other three are totally benign and exactly what you would expect from the white house. the fourth one, i think, is open
to interpretation. there's a lot of litigation that will continue about that. but for this to launch a thousand ships -- >> where's the ambiguity? >> fir when you have something that goes to the heart of the matter? >> does it? >> yeah. when they say susan rice don't talk about barack obama's policy -- >> failure of policy. >> talk about a videotape. of course you know this goes to the heart. don't insult our intelligence on this. >> i'm not. >> when they're telling her to talk about a videotape, you're saying that doesn't go to the haert heart of the matter? >> i believe the number one talking point on that e-mail was our job is to keep americans safe. we will not waiver in that. that was the number one. >> i'll wave that flag. >> these attacks were. >> reporter: that doesn't negate what happens at the end. >> there are two things to litigate here. one to your earlier point, why
is this e-mail coming out now? there's a legitimate question. >> why is it? >> i don't know the answer to that. i think the white house should be asked. the second, there was an assessment the cia had as for whether these attacks were rooted in protest. that nuance was stripped from the e-mail ben rhodes sent. >> because we now know the cia, their analysis did not include any connection between the video. the cia testified that certainly there were protests in the region, but not that they were tied to the video. that's why the white house talking points are so -- i think are being viewed with such a degree of suspicion by republicans. >> can i raise a point here quickly? i think what we're really getting at here is what will the select committee in the house tell us that's new. alex you raised this question. four house committees have looked into this. i wonder if they decide to subpoena hillary clinton.
the only new big splashy development i see coming out of this committee is getting hillary clinton before congress. and we don't know if that's going to happen. we know republicans would love to see her testify before congress, because they have been trying to prove for a year now that the obama administration and hillary clinton know more than they're letting on. and that's why you're seeing all this fund raising off this. you can bang up republicans for fund raising off of this, but it would be political folly for them not to. the enthusiasm, the intensity with which the right views this issue is very hard to overstate. you go to town meetings and you hear benghazi come up even more than obamacare sometimes. that's what this is about. >> i want to go to capitol hill, congressman from maryland elijah cummings. >> good morning. >> if the tables were turnd and the republican administration had not released an e-mail like that, wouldn't you be asking a
lot of questions? >> yeah. i'd be asking why. let me start off by saying -- wait a minute. speaker boehner can shut this fund raising effort down right now and he should. >> we all agree. >> you shouldn't be raising money in regard to this matter. joe, if you want to send out a message. send that one. >> i sent it out at the top of the 6:00 hour. so go ahead. >> and so with regard to the e-mail, you know, i don't know how they go about sending these things out. but i do know it takes time to have to go through and make sure they are obeying a subpoena. and i'm an attorney. i know. i've seen quite a bit. but at the same time going back to what alex said, keep in mind. as i recall, there's one reference to benghazi in this e-mail. and that the e-mail that they're
talking about with regard to rhodes, it was consistent with what the cia was already saying. they have three parts to this investigation. one, the talking points. two, what happened that night. and three, what are we doing to keep our people safe? come on now. you just spent about ten minutes talking about their talking points. i want to make sure we keep our people safe. and hopefully this committee, if it's a fair committee and it's one that is truly bipartisan, we've tried the partisan route and apparently that hasn't gotten us as far as we need to go according to republicans and we need to do something that is fair. as leader pelosi has said, even steven and be treated more like an ethics committee. so that there is bipartisanship with regard to issuing of subpoenas. bipartisanship with regards to wherever to discovery. and bipartisanship with regard to depositions and access to
witnesses. that has not happened in my committee. i can tell you. it's been becausically one sided. >> you know, i agree with you. it needs to be a straightforward committee. i personally think there needs to be six republicans and six democrats on there. republicans don't need to fund raise off of it. but there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. and this e-mail that has been sent from the white house as nicole said, that takes precedent over everything else when it is -- >> i'm sorry, joe. i have to disagree with you on that. >> no, no, no. >> hold on a second. don't twist my words. >> no, no, no. i'm telling you what i'm saying. >> when susan rice gets an e-mail from the west wing to instruct her what to say on a sunday talk show, if you don't think that takes precedent over any other document generated by any other department in the united states government, then you don't know how white house is run. >> well, i do know.
and i know that whenever folks from the white house go out on these talks shows on sundays and others, they send out talking points. but we got to go back to the document. now, it does not take a select committee depending more and more of americans' money to get to the bottom of that. i don't see what this select committee is going to be able to do that we couldn't do in our committee. keep in mind, we have -- chairman issa has four subpoena powers. he has used it without consultation from the democrats. he has that. >> let's talk about yesterday. lois lerner. let's stop talking about benghazi. i think you'd agree with me we should move on. >> all right. >> the house voted yesterday, "new york times" jeremy peters reporting to find lois lerner in contempt. what's your take on that? you compared it to mccarthyism. >> oh, i'm sorry. i thought i was talking to
somebody else. >> if i have you here, why would i want to talk to anybody else? >> i thought you were talking to jeremy. let me say this. this is the first time since the 1950s and '60s that a committee has stripped somebody of their fifth amendment right and then at the same time went on to a contempt citation. and this is unprecedented except in the mccarthy era. 9/ even in that era it failed. i wonder where we're going here. it seems as if there has been an effort to, again, my argument was not that i don't want to hear what miss lerner had to say. i want to hear it. but you know what? there's something that is more significant than that. and that is upholding the constitutional rights of every single american. that's what this a isn't.
>> jeremy, you wrote about it. tell us about it. >> well, i think it's certainly more than just about any episode that i've witnessed on capitol hill in the last year, illustrated how far apart these two parties are. congressman, i would ask you, certainly the atmosphere that's so poisoned right now has led to democrats saying we're not going to participate or we don't think we should participate in any of these investigations that republicans are spearheading. so i just wonder with the benghazi select committee convening, what do democrats have to gain by participating in that? because mrs. pelosi has said she's not sure she wants democrats on that committee at all. >> well, i think pelosi wants fairness. and i can understand both sides of it. she's seen what's happened with the four investigations that have happened in the house and they've been strictly partisan. and then she has also seen the way that we've been treated in
the oversight committee and other committees where a staff report is put out without any democratic input whatsoever. and that, you know, the subpoenaing of witnesses with no consultation from democrats. so what she's looking for is a fair situation. on the other hand, if we are not in the room, i'm concerned about that because i can't imagine a hearing being at all fair if we're there. if we're not there. but at the same time i could understand leader pelosi's position that we don't want to legitimatize something that is obviously a partisan effort. >> all right. >> so it's a tough issue. >> all right. >> congressman cummings, thank you so much. it's always great to have you on the show. >> alex, stay if you can. then we'll watch you again on
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here with us now, personal finance expert and contributing editor to money magazine, farnush author of "when she makes more." ten rules for bread winning women. this is so timely because she makes more more often now. >> in her marriage. >> even though she makes less in general than men which is a whole other issue. >> i'm disgusted by that. go ahead. >> 24% of married women today are making more than their male spouses. that's up four times since the 1960s. i'm in this demographic, however, when i got to reach this point, i realize even with my experience covering the financial terrain for over ten years, helping people with their finances, i feel confident managing my own money. this was complex territory for me and my husband. you look at what is happening statistically when she makes more and enters a relationship,
there's more divorce, more infidelity. i did my own survey of over a thousand women in this country and found she struggles how to make it all work from career to housework to her romantic relationship to money. >> which, i'm sorry. let's just go right there. because i think men can't handle it for the most part even if they say they can. i think it's really tough. >> it can emasculate them. >> they must not pay rent in manhattan. my husband would think it was awesome if i made anybody close to what he makes. >> there's been a lot of headlines since i wrote this book like is bread winning women is problem? the reality is no. we want to celebrate this. the problem is we have antiquated expectations and different ideas of what it means. >> here's the deal. the long-term analysis, i think, has yet to be written.
i like your rules. i want to get to them because they're really important. but i think women who make more probably burn out sooner. and it all balances out in the end. am i wrong? >> well, we live longer than men, that is for sure. >> also to your point about women who are successful wanting to balance all these other things is women are successful in the work place, one would assume all those career go getterism would translate to other areas and you want to make sure everything else was okay on the home front. when she makes more, she does more housework which is insanity. it's like she's trying to overcompensate. >> in every way. let's talk about that. you have good rules for bread winning women. face the facts. rewrite the fairy tale. definitely. that's over. >> i love number six. >> level the financial playing field. what are you talking about? >> especially in the relationship where she makes more, emotions can muck up how
to manage money. you want to make everyone's money have meaning. that's what i get across in that chapter. >> i have to get to five. hack the hypotheticals. five, cater to the male brain. what is that? >> this is about sayi ining the are gender differences in how men and women need to be communicated to. you tell me you're doing too much housework and you're burnt out, this is how to communicate with your guy. men want to provide. they want to help. >> isn't it just sex? i don't get it. wait. i don't get it. >> well, there's that. >> what? are we all talking around the same thing here? >> honey, i need your help in this thing and give him the gift of duty. >> he wants to be your hero. it's not just i forgot to make dinner, help me. he needs to take over the domain. >> doesn't that just reinforce this whole male/female dynamic at the root of the problem? >> yes and no.
i'll tell you two things. the couples that thrive most when she makes more are the ones who transcend expectations in the gender roles. >> then they can put the seamless app on their phone and they don't have the conversation. >> as long as there's dinner on the table. but you have to respect there are gender differences in how what our needs are and how we communicate to one another. you can't expect that your man will anticipate you. you can't. you've got to communicate effectively. >> like i said -- >> and number six. buy yourself a wife. >> yeah. okay. some of these are really good. >> that's a great one. >> i think number five you might want to redo the definition. i'm going to help you out here. >> well, the headline can ensite for sure. if you read the chapter, you will get it. >> i would love to have a wife that makes more money than me. because i wouldn't wake up at 6:00 in the morning or at 4:00
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we studied people 70 years and older. those who reported eating high amounts of carbohydrates in their diets, in particular sugar, were more likely to develop problems with their memory and their thinking and decision making. later in loo i have. this is what we called mild cognitive impairment which is a very strong risk factor for developing alzheimer's later on in life. >> so a diet heavy in sugars throughout their lifetime? or the use of sugar after they turn 70? >> well, we asked them the questions at the time when they were 70 years and older. so we asked them about the diet in the year prior to the study. this gave us an average look over a one-year period. what types of foods they were eating. sop if they had high carbohydrate intake and high intake of sugar, we found they
had a risk of mild cognitive impairment which often leads to dementia later on in life. >> just one second. doctor, if you look at overall diet in life whether it starts at 70 or not in terms of increasing dementia, aren't a lot of these substances we are finding fairly addictive. and so you find that if you eat sugar as a child, it ends up staying with you for the rest of your life. it's hard to change that diet at 70. >> well, mika, i think you're right. i think there's a lot more need for research in this area. we need to continue to fund the nih and do the work that's necessary to understand this particular aspect of lifestyle, life decisions, diet. you're absolutely right. the habits we form when we're young do tend to follow through for mid-life and late-life. it's highly probable that the findings of what we're eating in mid-life do reflect what we eat as a child. but that's an area that needs
more research. >> dr. roberts, could you tell us specifically what food groups are we talking about in terms of at age 70 or age 60 or whatever. what food groups should we be wary of eating? >> what the study specifically looked at right now was looking at the relative balance of carbohydrates, protein, and fats. and if you look at those groups, i think it's the relative proportion of what you're taking in terms of the calories that you're putting into your body that's important. if you're eating healthy protein, healthy fats, and a healthy amount of carbohydrates. typically if you reduce the amount of simple sugars which are the sugar you add to the food, the sugar you get from your desserts, the candy bars. those are the things we don't want you to be eating. we want you to be eating vegetables, healthy proteins, healthy fats. and there's a lot in the literature about fatty acids.
fatty fish. and fruits and vegetables. those are the things we're thinking about. now, the reason these are important is if you go over on the calories and don't balance it out with the amount of exercise you're getting that's what tends to drive you down to develop diabetes. and our study show the people who had type 2 diabetes in mid-life were at high risk of having a shrinking of their brain when we looked at their brains in late life. and so this goes back to the question you asked initially. we need to start teaching people to have the right diet when they're young. when they're in preschool, middle school, adolescence. not wait until mid-life when we begin to tell people to change their habits. so this is something we need to stress. >> yes, dr. rosebud roberts and dr. noseworthy giving us another reason with their search into dementia on why to reframe the diet. the diet has been pushed over
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do you think houston says why don't we bring johnny manziel in at number one. do you see that happening? >> i certainly could. i've been a proponent of manziel. he's not a finished product. you've got to have an imagination to coach johnny football and somebody is going to be very fortunate. >> what about the whole spectacle of the draft itself? it begins today, it's going to go on for six weeks, constant television. when you first started out, they could get in a room, go 10, 12, 15 rounds in four hours. what impact does it have on the game, on personnel and the teams? >> that's a great question. this has become such a national spectacle, with the immediate way it is, not just espn and the internet. there's so much knowledge out
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they are the two richest people in the world. and they are in it to make money. that's their whole goal here is to add zeros to their billions. and i don't think that's the case with any -- >> you don't think that's the case with adelson -- >> i know sheldon adelson. he's not in this for money. he's not in this to make money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. now sheldon adelson, social
views are in keeping with the democrats on choice, on all different kinds things. don't pick on him. he's not in it to make money. >> wow. that's amazing. >> that's pretty funny. >> we all laughed. >> did you see gene earlier? >> oh, gene was laughing? >> gene the laughing machine. >> nicolle wallace and chuck todd is in washington. joining us, nbc political analyst, form are chairman of the republic national committee, michael steele. >> that's twice he's says
sheldon is not involved in politics for any financial reason. i'm not picking on sheldon. i support him on this issue. but he is going around the country spending a lot of money to try to influence people to ban internet gambling. >> and, by the way, who if you have an expansion of internet gaming, who could end up being hurt by this? well, people that own brick and mortar casinos and who owns them? oh, right, sheldon adelson. what's bothering me with the infusion of the billion mayairb the political parties only have selective billionaire outrage. they're only mad at the billionaires that they're not pals with. they're missing the idea that we're allowing oligarchs, i
don't care if they're liberal or conservative, whether it's bloomberg on guns or the koch brothers and regulations, you look at all of this and you say to yourself should the power to decide what issues we're debating lie in the hands of three or four people in american politics and that's what's corrosive in these systems. >> republicans are more concerned about democrats that spend a lot of money and vice versa. >> chuck captured it, deciding what we talk about and how we decide these issues. the fact that we've got harry reid who all of a sudden now doesn't have a problem with sheldon adelson but before was
screaming holy hell about the guy, along with the koch brothers, is just such a disingenuous load of crap -- >> well, that's one way of putting it. >> that is one way of putting it. >> harry reid, at least he was very equivocal about hillary clinton, the prospect of hillary clinton running for president again. take a look. >> everybody knows i love the clintons, i don't need to say more, including chelsea. >> and do you want her to be the nominee? do you think there should be a healthy primary procesprocess? >> why not? rarely do i think primaries are healthy. >> is that right? you don't think they're good for democrats? >> for anybody. >> why is that? >> why go through the trouble? why not just be anointed -- i'm
being facetious. >> i thought you were. you think it would be better for hillary to have an rival? >> i think the process of going up against clinton was wonderful. >> oh, my god. >> that was awful, chuck! no, no, you were brilliant, chuck. but it was so awkward on the other side. >> you're like mr. magoo, inspector clouseau mixed along with somebody else and all of a sudden they say these things that sink them. >> bumbling along. >> you did a great job here but there were about four or five times that we all sort of erupted in laughter with the responses. >> i'm with you. >> and the awkward pauses. >> to me it's what makes a harry reid interview somewhat
compelling. he's this mix of -- he's so mild mannered on one hand, his demeanor. but, man, he's got a sharp tongue. when he paused, it was making my me wonder what does he really want to say? i wish i could read the thought bubble in his head. >> when was the last time that harry reid did an interview that someone on his staff didn't have to clean up afterward? >> i'm not characterizing my interview. >> did you have no interview with anyone on his staff afterward? >> with one thing the folks that used to work with him just say you get used to the point that harry reid is harry reid and he will say what he wants and he seems to be unafraid. by the way, i asked him about the harsh language he uses, whether it was on the koch
brothers or form are president bush. he claims he has never had a regret about a single thing he said, name calling and this evenings li-- things like that. that's harry reid. >> what do you think it is about the state of our national politics that on both sides there's unrest, harry reid among the democrats and mitch mcconnell among the republicans? >> to me it means there's something bubbling beneath the surface that can be very troubling. that is playing out with the establishment types and gop party of the tea party. now the democrats are going to come into this phase as you get closer to 2015 with hillary at the top of the ticket or not is that the establishment really needs to control the way the politics flows.
harry reid has been very good as a checkpoint along the way. that interview was one of those examples that, yeah, whatever i didn't like about hillary in 2008, i still don't like. >> i'm afraid to say it. >> but i'm afraid to say it but if i need to, i will. >> you look at jim clyburn, very important, an recall primary state. he's angry with the clintons, he just wrote about it in his books and a lot of scar tissue in 2008 when he suggested it was rigged. >> but i love him. >> but i have no intent of making her road easier. >> it's interesting to go after the koch brothers. i'd ask chuck the fact that harry reid continues to go after the koch brothers, it's kind of falling on deaf ears. there are certain base democrats
that get all riled up on it but they're not making that case otherwise to make those two villains of the right. >> this is an entire democratic campaign strategy because they have this idea if they demonize the koch brothers, they can somehow make the republican candidates in some of these places, they can turn the koch brothers moo bain capital, for instance, feigned a w-- find a is there a business where the koch brothers are advertising and they can localize it and make the republican own it. step one is raise the name idea of the koch brothers, so reid is using his senate time to do that. but in our most recent poll, we checked out what the koch id
was. it seems now they're having the conversation with themselves for the koch brothers, they haven't created some sort of anger in the middle with persuadable voters. >> amid calls to resign, the head of the department of veterans affairs will stay the course. jim, tell us about the scandal that's weighing on the military right now. >> mika, it seems we've heard of all of this before. the v.a. has long been accused of not providing american's veterans with the military and medical care that they need when they need it. this case is different. it rises to a different level where the allegations appear to border on something criminal. the latest scandal comes out of the v.a. hospital in phoenix where as many as 40 veterans reportedly died while waiting
for treatment. >> secretary aaron shinseki said he was surprised by the allegations but accepts full responsibility. are you willing as secretary of v.a. affairs to accept full responsibility? >> i am. i asked the inspector general to go and conduct a complete, detailed, thorough investigation. >> reporter: some in congress and the american legion demand shinseki resign. but he brushed it off. will you resign? >> i would say i serve at the pleasure of the president. >> reporter: it's alleged hospital administrators buried appointments in a secret list and then ordered the files destroyed. >> it really cuts to the core of our country's confidence in the
v.a. the entire public has lost confidence in the v.a. >> congress is poised to way in on all this as early as today. we expect to see subpoenas issued for v.a. hospital records that they have failed voluntarily to provide to congress. a round of hearings is expected next. congress will want to know what happened here and what went wrong and was there any criminal activity involved. >> given shinseki's background or career, is there a level of huge shock that he has been unable to make a crack, a dent into the v.a. bureaucracy? it's as bad today as it was five, six, ten years ago. >> i've followed general shinseki and now secretary shinseki for years. he's always been one to hide his emotions, high shock or anger or frustration really. but when i asked him yesterday
do you really completely understand the level of outrage over all of this, he said, "i think i do." he is so focused on getting the job done in sort of a militaristic-type fashion, we do this, this, this, hourly he doesn't seem to grasp the level of heart break and in some cases some suspect as a result of what may be criminal activity. it just doesn't seem to register with him at this point. i believe he is angry, he says he was taken by total surprise by these allegations. but this spreading to at least four or five different medical facilities. >> jim, thank you so much for
being on this morning. >> thank you. >> chuck todd, we'll see you today at 9:00. >> in tattoo parlor, right? >> i want to say today's show has really shown your range. >> thank you, mika, after beating me up. >> i've been back handed praising you. >> at least you admit it was backhanded. >> is this the same tattoo parlor with nancy pelosi? >> it is the same tattoo parlor where they did the little fake gag. this was on our trend political question. someone your house with a
tattoo. it's one of those cultural this evening -- things we all know but haven't seen it in a number. everyone you know probably has a tattoo and notice we're not judging you anymore, there's not a stigma anymore. >> well -- >> no, it is less so. you see it everywhere. you're like, whoa, there is sort of a radical change over the years. >> i know you upper east siders don't have tattoos but the upper west siders. >> barnicle? >> a couple. chuck and i are on the all-ink team. >> straight ahead on "morning joe," kevin durant's having a year to remember and he says it's all because of one woman.
>> i wasn't supposed to be here. you made us believe, you kept us off the street, put clothes on our back, food on the table. you sacrificed for us. you're the real mvp. >> his mother wanda pratt is going to join us later. that is so moving. and up next, it isn't just washington who has something at stake with the keystone people line. but first here's bill karins. >> how can you not root for kevin durant. i want to show you some pictures from the central plains yesterday. we dealt with severe weather. we didn't get the tornado but we did get the hail. i think the hail was very impressive. today it could be enormous, like the type of hail shattering windshields. ardmore reported golf ball-size
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scratching their head asking what's it all aboot? washington. >> there are 84 pipelines right now between canada and the u.s. -- >> there are 84 pipelines between canada and the united states? why is this such a big deal? >> that's the question we have. when we look at the state department reports, it basically says that if the oil doesn't come on a pipeline, it will come on rail. and they've been proven to be correct. the amount of oil, crude oil on rail coming to the united states has grown 50% one year and the next year. what the consequences? higher emissions, higher risk for people. again, according to the state department, and higher costs. >> so the state department and
canada both support the peopleline because it's better for the environment and safer for people close to the transporting of it. >> that's right. for three reasons we support it. it's become -- the people opposed to it five years ago said if you have do not approve the pipeline, the oil will stay in the ground. that's fallen like a house of cards in terms of the facts because the oil is just coming done on rail. when you look out your window and see more tanker trucks, you see more tanker cars on railways, you should know it's a consequence partially of not approving a pipeline and having go on rail. the oil is coming from canada, from north dakota and montana. it's just the way it's getting to the gulf coast. >> what about legitimate environmental concerns, though, around nebraska and the water ways and potential leakage? we're all familiar with leakage. what about legitimate environment an concern
environmental concerns? >> there was concern about the route in nebraska and it was moved away from the aquifer. the highest security was put in place and approved by the state of nebraska and by the state department in the u.s. >> what's the impression that you have to sort of try to explain or translate to your government or your public about the state of the politics around this issue? >> we're a democracy, unlike some of the other places that import to the united states. >> i'm sorry, this has become one of those polarized issues where on one network people celebrate the peopipeline, on another -- it's become incredibly polarized. >> we would like it to go back to a fact-based, merit-based decision. when people talk about an energy
efficient bill in the senate. it's more energy efficient to transport oil on a pipeline than it is to transport it on a truck or on a rail car. now, there is a role for rail but to have people say no to the pipeline is actually to say yes to higher greenhouse gas emissions. >> are people surprised that president obama has been mired in the politics of all this? >> we thought the state department would inform the president and the american people. we like a fact-based decision making in our country. >> we don't do that much here. >> you have that great quote that you're entitled to your own opinion but you're not entitled to your own fact. we would like the second part of that. >> you hear varying numbers of figures, 25,000 jobs, 50,000
jobs. what are the fact-based -- >> everything i'm using is coming from the state department, not canadian talking points. >> isn't that amazing? >> 44,000. >> the obama state department says 44,000 jobs? >> yes. >> the obama administration says 44,000 jobs, the obama administration says this is coming out of the ground anyway. it's stunning. with all this information, though, do you feel, does the canadian government feel and canadians feel let down by the the administration? >> i feel the only way for the debate to go forward is for people to say factually canada is going to get its oil from other places. we have routes to the east going to india, we have routes to the west. we have these two routes to the united states and keystone is one of them. we prefer obviously to work in our neighborhood to have energy independence with canada, the united states and mexico.
so somebody has got to stand up and say the oil is coming down and it's either going to come down on a pipeline or it's going to come down on rail and it's going to come down on trucks. somebody has to stand up and say that because it's higher emissions the way it's coming down as we speak today. >> all right. why don't we leave it right there, ambassador gary doer. thank you so much. great to have you on the show. >> coming up, fedex answers the age old question, really? does size matter? >> the answer is yes. business before the bell is next and we'll explain why. ♪ early in the evening, just about supper time ♪ good. woman: vamanos. good. driver & passenger: vamanos. woman: gracias. driver & passenger: gracias. passenger: trece horas en el carro sin parar y no traes musica. driver: mira entra y comprame unas papitas. vo: get up to 795 miles per tank in the tdi clean diesel.
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this bill would designate yogurt as the official state snack money. >> what exactly are we defining as a snack? >> you have breakfast, lunch and dinner and then you have snacks. >> did you consider, say, the potato chip? >> no. >> cheese cake? >> cheese cake of thought more of a desert. >> raisins? >> no. >> cashews? >> never. >> can we consider the carrot cookie? >> the bill is passed. and lastly let me talk about the
state muffin. >> that's real. >> that was real? >> real as in that really happened in a legislative context? >> it did in albany. they can't figure out how to bring jobs to upstate new york, but they can talk about yogurt and pretzels. >> stop lying to our viewers. that did not happen. there's no way that happened. ha, ha, ha, very funny political show, that did not happen. no one is going to get me to believe that happened. >> sarah, a question was asked in the tease regarding fedex about size. do you have the answer? >> yes, turns out size does matter for fedex. >> all right, let me write that down. okay. check. >> this is a huge change, especially for those of us, including myself, who order toilet paper or paper towels online. fedex is going to change the way
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>> it's a a commercial right here, baby. >> you're converts. >> we look at each other and see the phones and go, okay, we just connected. >> you know what they call that? >> i'm not going to put it down but i don't like it. >> once i went to the samsung -- >> really? >> oh, yes. >> there's no going back. once you go samsung -- >> you never go back. >> how are you, guys? >> good. >> thanks for having me on. >> award winning singer donny osmond. >> it was my first single. >> no. ♪ one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch girl ♪ >> do you know that was written for the jackson 5? >> no. >> i'm picking songs that influence me and one of the
songs of michael jackson's "ben." that was written for me. >> no? >> i was on tour and they said let's get michael to sing it. >> a beautiful song. >> everybody song on this album has a story like that. >> you guys really lined up, late 60s, early 70s, the jackson 5 and the osmonds, man. it's hard for people who follow -- >> how old were you? i was. >> 5. i was like 12, 13 when "one bad apple hit" and 13, 14 when "puppy love" hit. >> how did you survive this when, let's face it, michael had a much rougher run of it and you look at child stars time and time again. >> joe, can i poii can point to
things. my parents, i have great parents. family. it gets down to that. i married up. as a matter of fact, it's our 36th anniversary today. >> no way! >> where is she? >> get over here. come over here! it's your anniversary, come on. that's not going to work over there. >> i got to tell you something. sit on my lap. 36 years. ♪ and they called it puppy love ♪ >> this is debbie. >> i'm thomas. >> i just want to say something, she's not just my wife. she's my business partner now. we just came out with a company called donny osmond home. it went from 0 to 60 overnight. home furnishings. she's amazing. >> so now we're working together. >> what's your name? >> debbie.
>> what do you think the secret is to a long marriage? >> i don't know, honey, what do you think? >> she's always right. >> did you see that? >> i don't know. there's no secret. i think you just work at it and you have fun and enjoy the journey. >> whatever it is, you two should sell it because you look amazingly happy. >> we just found out we're having our seventh grandchild. >> there's no way you're a grandmother. what is it did donny that keeps you in love with him? >> ooh. i don't know -- >> be careful. i could kick you off my lap. >> he's just a really sincere, great, down-to-earth kind of person. >> 36 years. what present did he give you sn today? >> today? >> being on this show. actually, we're in town to do some meetings for donny osmond home. it's a work in progress.
we just found out home depot is going to carry some of our products and wayfair.com is carrying, bill.com is coming on board. we have manufacturing partners calling us. >> who would you describe the taste you two are embracing with donny osmond at home? >> it's a style of comfort and casualness and something you can bring your family into and relax. it's not traditional or stuffy. >> you two are relaxed right now. it's not a traditional interview, sitting on the lap. >> has this ever happened? >> no. >> how about this one -- >> after 36 years -- >> that's not happening. >> i'll let you go back and sit. debbie, congratulations. >> whoo! i liked it when he sang to you. that was nice. >> i love this week, this is my
week off, i can come to new york and celebrate our anniversary. we're in vegas next week. marie and i are celebrating our 1,000th show. we were supposed to be there for six weeks in '08. we just got the award for best show of las vegas third year in a row. >> oh, my gosh! >> and that's saying a lot. that's the entertainment capital of the world. >> how are you guys -- you're like the benjamin buttons ageing in reverse. >> must be that mormon lifestyle. >> both of you guys. you guys look amazing. >> i don't know. >> you work out, you eat well, give us some secrets. >> he just did. you don't see her on a bad day.
>> do you do "i'm a little bit country, i'm a little bit rock 'n' roll." >> oh, yes. this is amazing. a couple weeks ago after the meet and greet, there were four generations of ladies, there was the great grandmother, the grandma, the mom and the little girl. she was 5 years old. the great grandmother new me from the andy williams show and i said how does this little 5-year-old know me? she said every time we get in the car she says i i want to hear donny osmond's anaconda song. i said there is no anaconda song and she started singing
♪ anaconda puppy love >> that's so cute. >> your wife made the show this morning. i love it. >> i love her. >> happy anniversary. >> have a good day. >> we're going to top this, believe it or not. i know it's hard because donny osmond is right here. hold on. it's going to be okay, donny. there wasn't a dry eye in the room as kevin durant declared his mother the real mvp. >> oh, that tops it. his mom, wanda pratt joins us next. is that okay? >> that's great. ♪ my music makes me whole, i'm a little bit country ♪ ♪ and i'm a little bit rock 'n' roll ♪ let's share the news tomorrow. today we failrly busy. tomorrow we're booked solid. we close on the house tomorrow. i want one of these opened up. because tomorow we go live... it's a day full of promise.
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♪ ♪ i love basketball so much, i love playing it. i just never thought that i could make it to college, nba or stand up here today in front of you guys and be an nba mvp. it's just a surreal feeling. i failed so many times and got back up. i've been through the toughest times with my family but i'm still standing.
[ applause ] >> and last, my mom. i don't think you know what you did. you made us believe, you kept us off the street, put clothes on our back, food on the table. when you didn't eat, you made sure we ate. you went to sleep hungry. you sacrificed for us. you're the real mvp. [ applause ] >> okay. every time we watch that, we all start crying, but i hear she's crying, too. and she should and for good reason if a good way. that was oklahoma city thunder start and the nba's 2014 most valuable player kevin durant, playing tribute to this woman, the real mvp, his mother. welcome to the show. >> thank you so much to all of
you. >> this is thomas roberts. i was hoping you would be here in person so i could get a hug from you. can you put your arms towards the camera for a virtual hug? >> of course, of course. >> it's hard to watch that video and not well up for anybody. you have to be heartless. how special was it for you to see that honor for your son, so long overdue in many regards but to know how special you are in his mind's eye to be named the mvp? >> oh, wow. i was just really overwhelmed by it. i knew that he's would mention me, but i did not know he would do it so distinctly. and it really just kind of touched my heart. i was overwhelmed. and i was pleasantly surprised of course. >> mike. >> miss pratt, first of all, thank you very much for the gift of your son. who gave us all a gift the other
day with that incredible, emotional speech. but secondly, there are those of us who believe that the hardest job in america is being poor. and being poor and a single mom raising children, as you did, could you talk about the degree of difficulty involved in rai raising your children when you fear what might happen on a street corner on their way to school and taking care of those boys. talk about that a bit. >> well, we were -- we had very humble beginnings of course, but it was our life. and i decided that i was going to make the best of it. the way that i had to help my boys to stay away from the ills that were in our area is that i was always involved in their lives. i made it my business to sacrifice my personal desires and wants and sometimes my needs
for their goals and dreams. so i was always there. some considered me as a hovering mother, but i felt it would be best if i knew their friends, their friend's parents, if i knew the environment, what was the sea pleasant rec center, know the environment there. i made it a point to be in their lives. >> michael steele. >> wanda, thank you for the hug first off. i appreciated it all the way here in chicago. but you know, your story and your son's story is very familiar to many of us. and as your son was talking and listening to you now, it reminds me of my mother. this weekend is mother's day. just contextualize for moms out there that balancing act of raising your kids and providing for the family but then looking at a moment like that, that shot of you in that moment where you
teared up, what was in your hea heart? was it like a job well done or there's more to do? how do you push yourself even after you've achieved the success and seen the success for your son, do you still push more or do you sit back now? >> well, i -- i'm learning how to sit back. that part is really difficult for me. as mothers of young men knows, but my sons, they are helping me to do that. there are times when they come to me and they'll tell me that they need to talk with me, so i try to wait for that opportunity, but it's a learning process for me. but i'm trying. >> you know, wanda, when kevin said you kept us off the street, put clothes on our back, food on the table, when made sure we ate, you went to bed hungry,
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white house cover up revealed. you can see it tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern time, saturday 10:00 p.m. eastern and sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern. that is it for this special report. fair, balanced and unafraid. greta goes on the record right now. >> this is all on the record. stone walled. memory loss at the white house. >> this was like two years ago. >> dude, really? on the record searches for answers in benghazi. >> plus union thugs intimidating care takers of the disabled. one woman taking her fight to the supreme court. >> i don't want to be forced to join a union. >> and you can't miss this. ivanka trump on the record tonight. >> that first big development in benghazi. speaker of the house john boehner announcing the house will form a select committee to investigate the benghazi atta s attacks. also the oversight committee announcing it will subpoena secretary of state john kerry.
good evening, sir. >> good evening, how are you? >> good. what do you think about this select committee? >> i'm glad the speaker did it. i had called for it several months ago despite the pact that i'm on one of the committees of jurisdiction. i think 20 months is too long to get answers to questions and i think with the ben rhodes memo that was the straw that broke the camel's back with respect to the speaker. not only are we trying to get questions with respect to benghazi we're also investigating what appears to be a white house cover up and one of the worst explaza magss for why they din turn the document over is i think the speaker just finally lost his patience. i'm glad he did what he did. >> what difference does this make? how does this make a big difference in the investigation? >> well, instead of having the department of defense with armed services -- i mean, we were so pigeon holed or fragmented. foreign affairs has jurisdiction
over the state department. armed services over the department of defense. oversi oversight fills in the gaps. if you want to have them all sitting at the same table, you need a committee that has the power to do that and a select committee would have the power. it crosses all jurisdictional boundaries. you have subpoena power and you can work in a really coordinated effort and, you know, i think our chairmen have done the best job they can do but you have a tendency to stick within your own and we need somebody to cross the lines. we need the lines to disappear frankly. >> secretary of state john kerry has been subpoenaed by house oversight. why? >> well, greta, if you go back and read some of the old quotes and i know administration officials hate it when we go back and read what they said a year ago but a year ago he said with respect to benghazi if you're having any trouble getting information let me know.
well, mr. secretary, we're going to let you know. we're not getting the information. this e-mail we should have gotten -- >> is it bureaucracy or hiding it? >> well, i have evidence that not only are they hiding it but there's an intent to hide it. i can't disclose that evidence yet but i have evidence that there was a systematic intention mall decision to with hold certain documents from congress and we're just sick of it. so we're going to get him to come explain why we're getting documents 20 months late. >> all right. are you going to be on this select committee? >> the speaker is going to make that decision. >> do you want to be? >> here's what i can tell you -- if he thinks i'm one of the best questioners in congress. what i told him today is you need to put the best questioners. the best investigators in congress on that select committee. i think jimmy jordan is great. the speaker can decide whether he thinks an old washed up
prosecutor from south carolina is good or not but i'm going to help the committee regardless of what position if any i have. i will volunteer to be a summer intern because i want the family members of those four victims, each of whom i promised i will get you the truth, i want to be able to keep that promise. >> all right. congressman, i want to play a sound bite for you. this is president obama today answering a question about the crisis in ukraine and listen carefully, sir. >> the notion that this is some spontaneous uprising in eastern ukraine is by all the evidence of well organized trained, armed militias with the capacity to shoot down helicopters, generally local protestors don't possess that capacity of surface to air missiles or whatever weapons were used to shoot down helicopters. >> do you think he wants a do over on that or not? >> you know what, if you didn't
know better you would think that he was a republican member of the house describing what happened in benghazi. the only thing he left out is the protestors were using densive moves, military moves that have to be trained. i am stunned that he said that about the ukraine when the evidence is just as good if not better with respect to the attack in benghazi. i'm sure he would like to rephrase that answer to the question. >> do you think his staff gasped? it is a description of benghazi that so many people said that the fire power on the ground in benghazi was significant power. it wasn't just a bunch of fire crackers or something. >> i think his staff has been gasping a lot lately. when you have someone that's supposed to be a professional communications person sounded like that using the word dude and when you have them trying to say a memo was not benghazi when
you produced it in response to a subpoena about benghazi. they have been gasping a lot this week. >> congressman, thank you, sir. if you hear any news about this select committee, do let us know. >> yes, ma'am. but you do the same. if you hear something you let me know, okay? >> i will, indeed. >> yes, ma'am. >> now the one the congressman just mentioned is from last night's special report. to say former white house spokesman down played the benghazi talking points controversy is a giant understatement. >> did you also change attacks to demonstrations in the talking points. >> maybe. i don't really remember. >> you don't remember. >> dude, this was like two years ago. >> dude, it's what everybody is talking about. >> so think about this one, in 2004, he was driving an obama campaign bus for the press. in 2012 as they were losing their lives being murdered he was in the situation room and
the president was not. joining us our political panel, john, i wouldn't make that remark about he's not in the situation room, maybe he could be in the oval office. but the fact is that they haven't told us where he was. so even -- so it's a good question. >> so that's part of the big question. what exactly was the president doing the night of the attack? did we do everything we could to save these people. the other scandal on the other hand is did the administration mislead or high about a terrorist attack in order to further political or ideological narrative that suited their needs. i think the way he responded last night with the dude, it was so juvenile it almost seems as if he didn't understand the seriousness of the question. >> we had four people murdered and he's worried about dude, it was two years ago and the e-mail, if it was directed -- the rhodes e-mail was more
worried about policy than dead people but that's what i thought. >> he didn't help the cause. the most interesting part of the interview was when he played the cia's testimony of saying we didn't blame this on the video and they said where did it come from? he said newspapers. someone decided to take what happened in a newspaper over our own intelligence. >> or the chief on the ground for the cia. >> dude. >> yes i only go by dude now. but it's a classic, again, if you're about doing communications strategy which is you're in a defensive position which is where tommy was the answer is to make it seem like not such a big deal. you guys are blowing this out of proportion. you guys are spending that much time on it. we aren't spending that much time on it. >> it's hard to win that battle when there's four dead people. if there's four people killed that day in downtown washington it would still be front page
news in the washington post if it was unsolved. >> would it be. >> yeah. would be. >> but there's the sense at a this has been the white house contention on so many issues. it's not just dealing on this issue but everything else which is the media is going to turn something into this big side show. we're not going to get sucked into it. we don't want to be part of that narrative. we're just going to make it look like you guys are the problem. >> is it benghazi select committee any big deal? >> well, the democrats don't want it to be portrayed that way. harry reid said this is nothing but rekindling a bedunked right wing conspiracy theory. they want to portray it that way. who can it hurt the most? president obama isn't running again but hilary clinton might and she was secretary of state. what was she doing at the time? the sper view last night first
came to my mind the 2008 campaign by hilary clinton. the 3:00 a.m. phone call. who is going to be ready to take that 3:00 a.m. call? the president wasn't even in the situation room during a major emergency. >> the 23-year-old aid who doesn't believe this is important at all. and there are four dead americans including the first ambassador killed since 1979. >> he said well it's just old news. i don't know why it happens in politics it's okay to give up the investigation and i think essentially that's where we're at. but let me ask you another question. i want to add tommy veitor and the interview is picking up steam online. i tweeted this, is bret baier changing his twitter name to dude and he said i think i'll leave it. next time carny uses bush as an excuse respond, dude, that was 5
years ago. and tommy himself chiming in. no doubt that bret baier is a good dude. thanks for having me on. should he be the news dude from now on? >> i think the whole thing was what happened on social media. first the dude comment and then the throw back thursday. he made a comment that going on and talking about benghazi is part of the throw back thursday agenda and that is inappropriately making light of such a serious situation. this can only backfire. >> going to john's point too about -- well, both of yours about the select committee and what are they going to find? the bigger problem right now for the administration even though the president is not up, his party, and his approval ratings impact those on the ballot this year. when you look at and this is an old poll now and the last time the washington post asked the
question do you think that republicans are raising a legitimate concern or is this just political posturing, americans were split. but when you asked do you think the obama administration is honestly disclosing what it knows or covering something up? 55% said covering up. that's the bigger issue right now which is the e-mail itself, the content of it is almost not as important as the fact that it looks like there were other e-mails there and that's what we're going to get into and that becomes a bigger problem for the administration. >> and i think what was really striking was how the interview last night really displayed how much hilary clinton was at the center. as the attack was on going she issued a statement citing the video. the weekend before susan rice went on the sunday shows she gave a speech as the four bodies were laying there and talks about this video. we know from the e-mails that the reason they massaged the talking points is there were concerns about policy and messaging from the state department leadership. who is that? hilary clinton and those closest
to her. >> in the state of confusion and terrorism is a state of confusion, everyone is uncertain is once the dust settled is you still have president obama going on david letterman and going on the view and not explaining to joy when she asked about the video, they'r talking video. go figure. thank you. >> cheryl atkinson has been all over the story from the beginning. there's still a story to be told. >> do they want to talk? where are they? who is talking to them? why have we heard from them? >> we're trying to reach them and get them to come forward. i hear some are about to or want to and i do think there's still stories to be told from military officials. i have spoken to some of them who have some firsthand knowledge of events that took place that night and it's just a lot of pressure not to come forward. fear of doing so. fear of careers. fear of a will the of things.
>> this is always to the point, the whole idea with the video and sort of dragging their feet providing information was that a political calculus because this was two months before the was up for re-election or was this just a giant blunder in a government? >> it's hard to say without documentation but if i were working the obama campaign 8 weeks before the election and i saw what looked to be north africa and this region blowing up at embassies in the middle east and north africa i would be concerned at how this was going to be portrayed or exploited by the opposition coming into the campaign and i would be working on developing strategies to mitigate that. i'm sure we can assume that happened. >> how about the families of the four killed. one mother is outspoken and terribly distressed. i'm sure the others were like wise but haven't been so vocal. are they still -- are they complaining or are they speaking out or are they grieving and
dealing with their loss? >> i haven't spoken to any of them lately but two families in particular are desperately unhappy and feel like the promises to get to the bottom of it and chemothem informed haven't been full filled. ambassador steven's mother wants all of it to be put to rest and doesn't want it to be points higher lit si-- politizis ed. they don't want his death used as political football. >> she has written something and says to her it's about the white house using the intelligence community for its own political purposes and lying to the american public in order to win elections. it's about abuse of power and that's the big deal. rather them do it now as opposed to using it as an effort to maintain an election and the intelligence community. >> we do know another unanswered question is that the deputy cia director was working with the white house on revising the talking points in a way that he
said would not embarrass the state department. he said the cia was trying to do in making some of its own disclosures. why would morell making changes to the talking point that differ with his then boss, why isn't the head of the cia doing this? why is the deputy director able to overrule him? why is the white house working with him on this effort to massively overhaul those talking points? i think there are a lot of unexplained things that we still need to know answers to. >> we both live in washington. if there are four unsolved murders in georgetown right now from september 11th, 2012 it would still be front page news at the washington post and other places. >> yeah, i think. >> this is not front page news. >> i would say regardless of the spin from the opinion blogs that get picked up and they're trying to counter this story because their surrogates are representing those they feel are being accused, despite that spin, a neutral look at this story will look at it as a very
important story in history. when it's looked back upon and the journalist -- those of us that didn't cover it as aggressively as i think we should have won't be viewed kindly in a neutral view of history down the road. >> does the administration know who did it and where they are? >> they do know who did it and they do know where they are. >> why -- are efforts being made to get them? to pick them up or do something? >> they are -- it's my information they're waiting and they're waiting. there's sensitivities with, they feel, moving into another sovereign nation and taking actions that they feel could either put troops in danger or stir up even more trouble by doing so. i think they're trying to be very careful. their feeling is from what i understand, they think time is on their side. they will eventually get the people that were responsible. they don't have to rush it and they don't have to create a political crisis or put people in too much danger. >> shayrl, thank you very much.
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lesl lelesrelentle relentlessly. >> thank you for having me. >> your son is 27 years old and how disabled is he? >> he has a significant disability. he is 25 years old and has a rare genetic disorder which effects his cognition, his physical abilities as well as his emotional abilities. >> all right. so now you get some financial assistance from medicaid so that makes you a state employee and then once that happens suddenly there were unions at your door. is that correct? >> when governor quinn signed the executive order in june of 2009 he tried to declare us moms and dads state employees solely for the purpose of unionization without giving any state
employees benefits or protection. and then he gave our names and our home addresses them and when asked for them, he gave them the list as well. this was how we learned of the executive order when they came knocking at our door. >> all right. now, why don't you want to be a member of that union? >> well, first of all, i firmly believe that not one cent of the medicaid funding intended to provide support for adults with developmental disabilities should be given to the union. i don't want it to be a union work place. i don't want a union contract between my son and i. >> you have taken this all the way to the supreme court and you're waiting for the supreme court to rule whether or not you have to be a member of the union. is that right? >> exactly. we have asked the supreme court to determine if governor quinn
was wrong in trying to declare us state employees solely for the purpose of unionization. >> well, i hate to say -- i know how tough it is to take care of a sick family member and i regret that anybody has any added controversy. i hate to see you have to go through this as well pamela. we'll wait to see. the supreme court will make the decision by the end of june. we'll see what they'll do. >> that's right. thank you. >> thank you, pamela. >> up next, ivanka trump. you'll have to hear what this successful business woman has to say about the latest job news. on the record next. also i'll take you off the record. i have advice for president obama just in time for tomorrow night's white house correspondent's dinner. that advice will be off the record. coming up. taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. alka-seltzer fruit chews. enjoy the relief!
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business woman. unemployment rate dropping to 6.8%. but now the important question what kind of jobs are being created. according to the national employment law project there's more lower wage jobs han the prerecession higher paid ones. nice to see you. boy, that's grim news for people that lost their jobs and are having to go out and get jobs and they're lower paying. what do you think? >> i think it's a problem and it's evidenced by the numbers we're seeing in terms of even the 6.3%. i'm not sure that anyone is really smart enough to understand what that number means and how that number is being calculated and i have a feeling it's a whole lot higher than the 6.3%. but there's a big issue. there's a big issue that's happening where a lot of our talent is being deported out of the country. people who are getting educations, many young people i know, you know, it's not -- 20 years ago when people graduated from college they would have never thought to pick up and move to asia to work. now, you know, the next
generation of americans are thinking about their opportunities around the globe in a very global context and there's a lot of people leaving and very talented people that are leaving because of the uncertainty of this country and because of the tax regimes that we're subject too and many of the other challenges facing young entrepreneurs as they're contemplating starting business. >> a more optimistic note. you do a lot of big projects and employ a lot of people. what are the projects you're working on. >> a lot. we have a hotel company that's the fastest growing hotel company in the world. we'll have hotels by 2020. two of which are very exciting projects of ours that we have under construction now. the famous old post office building on pennsylvania avenue in washington d.c. which we are converting to a super luxury hotel with gorgeous ballrooms and banquet facilities that will be open in summer of 2016. we also are finishing off a
renovation, $250 million renovation at the iconic resort in miami florida. so 800 acres right in the heart of miami. we have rebranded it. we have our hands full and tons of projects around the globe from rio to vancouver to china. >> you do a lot in the development part of the trump enterprise. what do you like most about your job? >> one of the things that's amazing about real estate development is that there are so many different skill sets you can bring.interesting. there's the finance element of putting together a transaction. there's the acquisition component. the creative element of having a vision and bringing that vision to fruition and then i think for people that love development there's the tangible nature of it. this isn't trading stocks and bonds that you never actually touch and feel. this is building something that exists long after you. so one of the amazing things as we build hotels, we build golf
courses, obviously very high end condominiums is you watch people using them and enjoying them after the fact and it's amazing. >> all right. >> go ahead. >> no, i was just going to ask you instagramed a picture of you having fun with your two children. they're not smiling. you're having fun with the picture. what happened. >> my daughter, i have to instruct her not to smile mord to get her to smile for a photo. with her everything is a negotiation and she's only two. >> joseph is a happy little baby these days. but we have fun. i love instagram but sometimes i forget that everyone actually sees it. >> i know, that's funny. let me ask you a question i always ask your father. is he going to run for president or do you want him to run for president? >> well, as an american, i would love for him to run for president. he is incredibly smart. incredibly knowledgeable. he has had tremendous
experiences which would prepare him for the challenge. as a daughter, it's more complicated. obviously it's a very tough life and the political one is a challenge. but i think he would be a phenomenal president and one of the things that i think is key is he has strong viewpoints but he always listens. so i think that's something we don't see enough of in politics. he's always asking questions. he's always listening and always interested in what other people have to say. >> ivanka thank you. i hope you'll come back. you're a little hard to catch up with. >> thank you. any time for you greta. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> now it's time to show you what we are watching. we put together the most amazing pictures and videos out there tonight. take a look. a squirrel caught on camera going nuts. literally. it all started with a 17-year-old tourist visiting a park in florida. he started to take a selfie next
to the squirrel but then the camera flashed and the squirrel got spooked and climbed on to the teen's shirt and hung on to his back. mow that's a selfie. >> and a time-out at a softball game. running on the field and stealing two players gloves. >> that's something you don't see every day. >> and he goes and gets gloves. >> now he's stolen the left fielder's glove. that's really something you don't see every day. >> he's wreaking havoc on this game. >> the dog giving back the gloves and running back to his owner. that's what we're watching tonight. if you want to see more of the videos we just showed you, i know you go, go online. >> but these photos creepy. but a clever photographer is sneaking into a deserted shopping mall for a reason. what story is he trying to tell about america's cities?
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parts of the country. and i started sharing them across my social media site like instagram and facebook and i got quite a response from it. >> what do you do? sneak into abandoned shopping centers and start shooting away? >> i shifted -- my first project was autopsy of america. i went all over to different buildings and structures, hospitals, homes. i wanted to focus on something that they would connect with more. i started to come across abandoned shopping malls and i thought that would be a real powerful symbol so i started doing that late in 2013 until just up until 3 or 4 weeks ago. >> is it hard to find subjects or is this every place you turn around with your camera there's another abandoned building that was decayed? >> it would almost seem that way sometimes. i go to some of the worst areas of the country and my city has been hit pretty hard, cleveland, as far as population loss, loss of manufacturing jobs over the
last several years and even up in 2013 we're the only major metropolitan city that lost jobs in 2013. so it's been a challenge for us i think. >> what's hit you the hardest? when you go through these buildings and these houses? what's hit you the hardest? >> it's emotional for me. my father is a long time auto worker in the area. and to see the devastation, when you go to like gary indiana or even cleveland, detroit, it's emotional. i remember growing up at these malls and these structures where it was filled with people and a once thriving and vibrant economy just kind of shattered literally. so it's, you know, it's emotional for me. breaking down sometimes. it's hard to see. >> seth, these photos are just indescribable. they're unbelievable and tell such an incredible story. thank you for joining us. >> thanks greta, appreciate it. >> first white house press secretary getting flippant with the media about benghazi and now
nancy pelosi and while she's at it, leader pelosi slamming the gop. >> benghazi, benghazi, you can sit around and talk about benghazi but the fact is that's what they don't want to talk about, jobs, growth, immigration reform, voting rights, you name it. >> is benghazi no big deal? >> look, i think if it's about the talking points, most of america has decided that they want to get to other things. but i also think the administration because of the way it drags this stuff out instead of just pushing all of these e-mails and stuff out like last year and getting them all out there has sort of let this happen this way. >> you know, the way the white house has handled this is sort of the flippant. especially the guy last night saying it's been two years. four people were murdered. it's like, let's not forget that and investigations are supposed
to be aggressive until they get solved. it's like instead they're in defense mode. >> yeah and they're treating this like the partisan attack they see it to be. but the problem is the opposite of that given there are four americans that lost their lives and there's unanswered questions about why they weren't defended. >> i don't think they view -- it's still an open question about -- and i don't really view the talking points as a big issue. nine or ten or 15 days or a month later, whatever day it was, the president said benghazi was an act of terror. they were wrong. >> do you know, it was bizarre. and i think that's what stick with people. what was the point. there are four dead bodies. it's terrorism and they were all singing this other tune about some video and it's just bizarre. >> i agree with that. >> what i'm saying is the real issue here is why did an
ambassador have little or no real security in a place like lybia or septembn september 11t >> that goes back to the august 16th classified cable that catherine harris reported on. >> that's all i'm trying to say. for me, i really wish that that was where the focus is. the focus on the e-mail from rhodes where he got an e-mail from the cia deputy director a few hours earlier. it's all like -- i don't know who did those talking points or why, but i really think it's kind of a -- it really is kind of an issue that's really not as important as some of the other things that we should be -- we should be getting to the bottom of. >> it makes me suspicious when people start hiding things. but who knows. maybe we'll find out. we'll fine out or whatever but joe, thank you. >> thank you. >> this is absolutely horrible.
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kidnapped. armed islamic militants draggling them away from their school in nigeria. 276 are still missing. heather, this story is practically unglues me it's so awful. >> everyone in the capitol is distraught. >> what's the latest. do they even know where these girls are? whether they're alive? is this ransom for real? >> i don't know about the ransom. we have gotten reports from the field about ransom requests and also the militants actually trying to sell the girls for wives for as little as $12. but all of those report unconfirmable. the latest is now the number of girls is growing. originally we were told it was 129 girls kidnapped. now they're saying it was almost 300 and most of them are still missing.
>> how were they kidnapped? out of a dormitory in the middle of the night? >> no, apparently these girls were all in school. and the militants came to them dressed in uniform and told them there was going to be an attack. and this area is very volatile. it would be very easy for them to believe there would be a with the exception of two who were reportedly killed by snake bites, but there's no photographs or details or actual confirmation of this either. >> are the ones who kidnapped them? is it islamic militants proven
or suspected? >> that's suspected. there's no other group in nigeria who would be suspected, and this group has in the past kidnapped women to use as their wives, as cooks, stuff like that. >> heather, thank you very much. i think there's a profoundly important story that everyone needs to pay attention to because this is absolutely cruel and awful. thank you. >> thank you so much. okay, let's go off the record. i have some advice for president obama. i know, he probably says he doesn't need it, but he might want to listen to this. tonight is the white house correspondents dinner. he's the guest of honor. he will be the roast of the media. that's what all the guests are supposed to do, roast the media, and yes, be funny. we've had funny moments. laura bush stole the show in 2005. >> i said to him the other day,
george, if you really want to end tyranny in the world, you're going to have to stay up later. >> and president clinton was always funny. >> for $10,000, you can have a private meeting with vice president gore to discuss reinventing government. and for $20,000, you don't have to go. >> and president reagan. >> i remember the story of the fellow here a while ago running for congress as a republican. he stopped by a farm to do campaigning, when the farmer heard he was a republic nl, his job dropped and he said wait right here while i get ma. she's never seen a republican before. >> and president obama. >> i wasn't sure i should actually come tonight. biden talked me into it. he leaned over and he said, mr. president, this is no
ordinary dinner. this is a big [ bleep ] meal. >> and president bush 43. >> ladies and gentlemen, here i am. here i am at another one of these dang press dinners. i'm absolutely delighted to be here. as is laura. she's hot. muy caliente. >> but the speechwriters went way too far at the correspondents dinner one year, making fun of not finding weapons of mass destruction in iraq.
>> those weapons of mass destruction got to be somewhere. nope, no weapons over there. >> okay, some laughed, but it really wasn't funny, at all. so here's my advice to president obama. no benghazi jokes. there's absolutely nothing funny about benghazi. not even a smidgen of humor. that's my advice, and that's my off the record comment tonight. if you have an important story, issue you think i should take off the wire, tell us about it. and panic and fear under the streets of a major u.s. city. a crowded subway derails. the latest is next. capitato make it happen? that makes it real?
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the rest evacuated through an emergency exit. and fox news announcing donald sterling is fighting prostate cancer. meantime, the nba is moving forward with its effort to get sterling to sell the clippers. the nba has banned him if life from for his racist rant. >> no, it's not the beatles. it's the royals. princes william and harry arriving in nashville. cameras catching them as they walked into a tennessee restaurant for a prewedding dinner. now to the u.k., british police launching a hunt, looking for five monkeys stolen from a zoo. some of the monkeys are endangered species and police warn the thieves may try to sell them. thanks. we'll see you monday night. right now, speaker newt gingrich
and i have a joint poll question. go and vote on our joint poll question. up next, "the o'reilly factor." good night from washington, d.c. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight -- >> diversion subterfuge. benghazi, benghazi, benghazi. whyerant we talking about something else? >> benghazi is a corpse. they tried to rouse it today, and it fell right back down. >> so the democratic excuse making begins, as evidence pointed to a white house benghazi cover-up mounts, will the main stream media help the left downplay the story? we'll tell you. >> i hope jeb runs. i think he would be a great president. >> does likely presidential contender jeb bush have what it takes to topple democratic darling hillary
edition of "politics nation" growing hope, live from the sweet auburn festival in downtown atlanta. we'll look at ways we can all give back to our communities and improve the lives of people around us. we hope to see you there. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton, "hardball" starts right now. a tail of dark sposs. let's play "hardball." >> good evening. let's start with the right wing efforts to scare off people with benghazi and scare off minorities who might vote democrat without outright voter suppression.
this is aimed at the elections this november, obviously. one, drive up the suspicious right, including the second amendment people by saying the ghovt is lying to them about the death of u.s. diplomats, about the irs, about fast and furious to catch cross border drug dealers. two, change and restrict voter laws to discourage and confuse democratic voters. bottom line, a big republican victory this november. a veritable thumping of the democrats, set setting the stage of two years of administration frustration and obama hatred that seeds right up until the 2016 election. let's start with the conspiracy mongering here in washington to betray those serving the country overseas. who in the words of john baldwin, leaving americans to die at the hands of terrorists. to cheat conservative groups out of their tax dollars, and in some underhanded way, be in
cahoots of the international drug trade. the goal, ramrod the republican base to the polls. michael steele was chairman of the republican party. joan walsh is editor at large of "salon." house speaker john baner who green lighted the benghazi select committee laid out the gop strategy yesterday. it's about stoking conspiracies to get the truth. >> when is the administration going to tell the american people the truth? they have not told them the truth about benghazi. they' not told the truth about the irs. they have not told the truth about fast and furious. now, only one would have to guess if they're not willing to tell the american truth, it must not be very pretty. >> democrats are criticizing the republican effort to score political points by stoking these conspiracy theorys. let's listen to congressman elijah cummings on the house vote to hold former irs official
lois lerner in contempt of congress. >> this is unprecedented even in the mccarthy era. even in that era, it failed. i wonder where we're going here. >> let's hear hillary clinton on the house selection committee of benghazi. >> benghazi, the new investigation. are you satisfied with the answers? and are you content with what you know what happened? >> absolutely. i mean, of course there are a lot of reasons why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward, that's their choice. and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> let me go to michael steele, former republican national chairman. it seems to me the message here
just to get it straight is a broad conspiracy that all the democrats do on all the issues that seem to matter is to hide stuff. it's all about hiding stuff. hiding ben gas zi, hiding irs, hiding on this fast and furious campaign with a particular goal of going to the hardest right, the gun people. it seems to me to be playing to the fringe. this is people who will vote prawn if they do vote. this is to get them out to vote and angry. >> you're driving your base. just as we've seen democrats do in the past. and event to meant the left to drive home that base on a
particular issue. i don't see the hyper sensitive to what republicans are doing in that instance. it all plays itself out ultimately in the end. you've got to get through a primary process an you' got to figure out how once you lay down these markers you either deliver the goods or you're going to get the rath of the voters who reject your political play. it's a political risk, but that's where the politics are. i think it's completely risky but i think you do, too. ultimately. >> what do you think of this whole strategy of basically alerting, igniting, turning on, exciting, scaring up, whatever, the right wing, the far right who are very suspicious of government, period, no matter who's running it, who are willing to believe the irs is evil.
they're concerned about louing their guns to anybody. john bald sin is saying we killed out in the field. it's vicious stuff and i think boehner is being coached in how to sell it. >> he obviously is. for john boehner to be bringing up fast and furious at this point really smacks of desperation at this point. the whole conspiracy has eric holder in ka hoots with the gun control people to set this up to eventually have a big takeaway of guns. that's at the bottom of what they're upset about fast and furious. holy concocted on the fringe of the right and nurtured by fox news. john boehner shouldn't be talking about fast and furious. he shouldn't be talking about any of this, but that in particular. i just have to say one thing to my friend michael. yes, we want to get out our base. but when harry reid talks about the koch brothers they are oligarcs pouring millions of
dollars into our political process in large measure to line their own pockets. >> they're not lining -- >> deeply right-wing agenda. that's not a lie. the rest of this is based on lies. are we now calling robert gates a lion? leon pi n leon panetta a liar? the benghazi stuff is really, really dirty. >> the koch brother is doing what everybody is doing on the left. and they're doing it through their wallets, through political action commit feeps they're doing it in very legal ways. you can buy it or not buy it. that's your prerogative. the same in terms of what the parties are talking about more broadly. i get on one level there may be concerned about how we do some of the stuff or do we push that envelope as far as we should. but there are 12i8 still substantive questions on all the issues that should be discussed. >> what are they? >> you have the floor, michael. i want to ask you this. do you believe leon panetta, a
credible moderate democrat, do you think he went out there to kill chris stevens? me let him lie in the field? >> of course not. >> do you believe that loi lois lerner who is a bureaucrat was sitting there talking to the obama people about how to screw the right wing? do you believe she's in cahoots with the -- >> that we're still investigating, chris. we don't know. she hasn't told us. >> she is a federal employee probably for life and you're y saying she's -- >> can i just say something about -- >> don't use that word with me. that says something that you're not a stoner. don't start talking like one. go ahead, joan. >> here's theling about loi lois lerner. she exercised her fifth amendment right, we all have them. eli january cummings talked about this. her lawyer made a proffer to darrell issa's committee and the committee that congressman cummings sits on. he was willing to give a vague outline of what she knows to talk about some kind of
possible, you know, protection from prosecution. they wouldn't even go there with her. they were much more interested in a witch hunt and a trial. >> you don't get to say to the congress of the united states on something like this, oh, we'll just tell you vaguely what we were doing. >> not vaguely. >> you just used that determine. >> the cavalry has arrived on the democratic side which it rarely does. we've caught him. the american people have caught the republicans making money on this. and this is something that's not up for debate, right? the national republican campaign committee is out there raising money on the house select committee hear on benghazi with an e-mail that reads, quote, stand with congressman trey gowdy, the benghazi select committee as we fight for the truth about what happened with the benghazi attack. help fight liberals by donating today. using benghazi, including one from super hog john bolton.
here's how politico describes it. a john bolten e-mail accused obama, clinton and leon panetta ofrefusing to admit leaving americans to die at the house of terrorists. and elijah cummings called on speaker boehner to end republican fundraising off the benghazi probe. >> they have been using the deaths of these four americans for political campaign fundraising. >> i call the speaker of the house to end that process right now. with all due respect, if the republicans want to fix the problems with their partisan investigation, they need more than just a new chairman.
i have tremendous respect for mr. gowdy, and i'm glad that he said the fundraising should not be done on the deaths of these four people. and i hope that the republican conference will finally agree with that. we are better than that! >> here's the question, are they or aren't they? house speaker boehner was questioned rather well by luke russert of nbc about whether it was appropriate to raise money over the deaths of americans overseas. by the way, one of these fundraisers asked for $500 for the four dead americans. it was ruthless. here's luke res sert going after boehner asking if he thinks it's appropriate. >> speaker boehner, should the nrcc fundraise off your earths with the select committee? >> our focus is on getting the answers to those families who lost their loved ones. period. is. >> but should the nrcc, they're fundraising off of it right now? is that the right thing to do? >> our focus is getting the
truth of these four families of the american people. o. >> the campaign committee, which you are very involved in is fundraising off of this. why is that happening? >> our focus is getting the truth for the american people and four families. >> no controlling legal authority. why didn't he answer the question? >> let's put it out here. he should back up his chairman of the select committee, congressman gowdy is absolutely right. there should be no fundraising on this issue. it is disrespectful to the deceased. it is disrespectful to their families. and it is disrespectful to the process that the republican leadership wants to pursue. so if you're serious about the impact of benghazi, then show it by pulling back off fundraising. you're going to raise your money. you don't have to -- >> the chairman of the republican national committee says it's wrong to raise money off of benghazi. >> yes.
i support chairman gowdy 100% on this. he's absolutely right. and the leadership need to back him up. >> this is a stunning abdication of leadership by john boehner, seriously. but it goes back to when he once said it wasn't his business to tell the american people or the members what to think whether the president was born in this country. for him not to back up trey gowdy to say of course we're not going to fundraise on this and i want to stop, it's stunning he wouldn't do that. >> you're one of these reporters who keeps your file cabinet in your head the whole time. you remember, you're so good at remembering it, you're right. and by the way, i'm sure chairman reince preibus wi everything you say on this. it's horrible, it's ridiculous. morm morally, it's absurd.
michael, you caught them on it better than i could. new republican restrictions were going to make it harder for people to vote. in north carolina, we talked about scaring up votes. they're scaring it away. wee got signs now as of the primaries this week in north carolina, a state i've come to love, they're screwing people out of voting and it's already working. plus, a school assignment, believe this or not in 2014, asking eighth graders out in california to write whether the holocaust was real. was it just an ignorant assignment or evidence that holocaust denyability is gaining ground in schools? finally, let me finish to night with how nasty campaigns can come back to bite you.
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suppress the votes of blacks and other groups likely to vote democrats. there's a frightening new look at the early fruits of those efforts. the state's new laws which "the new york times" has called the country's most sweeping restrictions on voting in the country were in effect for the first time this tuesday and the results were not pretty. while most of the severe parts of the law don't kick in for a couple of years, not until 2016, election watchdogs on the ground in north carolina are already noticing some disturbing trends. new realities. i according to a summary of monitoring work, quote, the law's disqualifications of votes cast in the wrong precinct caused major confusion. the state's campaign to inform voters about the upcoming id requirement was carried out in a wildly inconsistent manner. when the law kicks into full gear, this is me talking, it will likely only get worse. of course that's the point. republicans in the state have passed the law last year. eliminates same-day voter
registrati registration, kills a popular programs to preregister high school students and slashes early voting. a and there are voter id laws. if republicans have the way, what's happening in north carolina will be coming to a city near you. eugene robinson is a political analyst and pulitzer prize winning columnist with "the washington post." and brian pearlmudder is with the voter defender project. brian, i want to start with you on the ground. what was your reaction? how do you assess the results of the voter laws as they're affecting the finds of voters and -- minds of voters and the good people trying to vote? >> we had over 300 people on the ground in 36 counties in north carolina. what we noticed was that people were confused when they came to vote, especially in places like boone and in halifax county.
voters who were showing up to vote at precincts and the state, you know, in specific counties have been changing and moving precinct locations. that the out of precinct voting regulations that wuld not allow people who are voting out of precinct for their votes to count. folks showing up at the wrong precinct were shuffled around and very confused about where they needed to vote. >> used to be if you showed up at the wrong precinct, because you went to what you thought was the closest place, they would still count your vote. now what happens? >> yeah. now your vote doesn't count. you have to be at the right precinct. and so where i was in boone, north carolina, there were students who were showing up on the campus, it's split into two. so students who were showing up with their roommate to go vote at a polling location would be inevitably at the wrong -- they would pick the wrong precinct and have to walk a little over a mile to get to the other precinct.
just regulations like this make it harder for students to vote, republicans to vote. >> and this is all purposeful. look at this. a republican in north carolina actually went on the record during an interview with "the lady sh daily show" to gloat about how this would hurt democrats. >> it's going to kick the democrats in the butt. if it hurts lazy blacks, so be it. >> and it just so happens a lot of those people vote democrat? >> gee. >> well, you know, it's amazing when you have the eye of the tiger here. anyway, yellen was forced to resign. you're not supposed to say it out loud. >> what you're supposed to say out loud is this is to protect the integrity of the voting process. we can't have voter fraud. this is all ostensibly to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
>> no, they have a problem, though. it's a different problem. democrats are voting democrats. >> it solves a different problem. >> aren't you amazed? you grew up in south carolina. you saw it all. were you surprised this guy was willing to come out and say this is to keep blacks from voting. >> i was surprised, actually. even back then they would keep up a pretext. >> they would say they were looking for truly literate voters. >> they wouldn't say lazy blacks. >> he talks like mr. poll tax, mr. literacy law. he doesn't seem to have any problem saying that. when you go around there, are you surprised that people are so openly -- or are they so openly flagrant about the goal to keep blacks from voting? >> yeah, i think that there is this intense reactionary wave of people in north carolina, but there's also a group of folks, you know, in this grassroots
earth that is mobilizing people in north carolina to fight back nens against these immoral laws. people are tired in north carolina and they want, you know, the voting process to be meaningful. so we've been mobilizing people on the ground and all over the place to really fight back against this legislation. >> by november, is there going to be a fair vote in north carolina or is it going to be tilted? the table tilted against kay hagan from getting reelectriced. the laws, the way people are being reinforced, is this going to tilt the table against kay hagan? >> i think what we're seeing right now, and hopefully, everyone is able to vote in north carolina. but what we saw in the primary, and this is a primary election, where there's a very small turnout. people were already confused about what was happening with this law. when it was being implemented, if they needed an id. some people were asking folks and telling them they needed an id for 2016.
other precincts, they wouldn't ask and tell people about these regulations. it's creating this confusion and this hysteria in north carolina. and when you have millions and millions of dollars coming into the state, the last thing we need is more confusion and more la i i layers on top of that. we're going to be on the ground making sure everyone can get to the polls. it is definitely a concern that we have. >> so you have boehner in the white shirt doing the white shirt job. his job is to get out the crazy right wingers, scaring them about benghazi and irs and fast and furious. even though these are words he would normally not speak. at the same time, you scare up the vote on the right, you have to scare up the liberal vote. it's pretty much two-pronged. >> tilts the playing field. >> why are they doing this when they're already ahead? this is what nixon did and ruined his career. this is what he did in '72 when they were going to kill mcgovern. but they had to go break into offices and cover it up.
why are they going so crazy here. they're going to win anyway. >> they may not be sure they're that far ahead. >> you look at the polls. >> north carolina is a state that's been changing. they got a huge hispanic vote now. you know, it's a changing state. it's changing week by week. >> it's not as secure as you think. >> when you roll up the score in any game, you pay later for it. i think they're trying to roll it up in a nasty way. thank you, gene robinson. they're skeptical, but i think they would be in good shape now if they weren't so dir about it. up next, a new washington project michelle bachmann was for before she was against this project. this is "hardball" a place for politics. you probably know xerox
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back to "hardball" it's no secret that senator ted cruz professes his admiration for winston churchill every chance he gets, but he didn't have much to say about the british columbia -- british prime minister when he met a pig that happened to share the name of a pig with the name of his hero. >> first time ted cruz had his picture with churchill. >> yes, senator cruz with a photo op with a pig named churchi churchill. the house voted overwhelmingly to consider allowing a privately funded national women's museum or women's history museum to be built in washington there on the mall. it's just an initial step for plans to show case the contributions of women to the
american culture. it turns out the most vocal opponent of the bill is u.s. congresswoman michelle bachmann. she says the museum dedicated to american women would only serve to embolden what she calls the radical feminist movement. listen to this point of view here. >> i rise today in opposition to this bill because i believe ultimately this museum that will be built on the national mall on federal land will enshrine the radical feminist movement that stands against the pro life movement, the pro family movement, and the pro traditional marriage movement. . >> this was the same michele bachmann who expressed gratitude when she was posted in one of their exhibits. the posted this on mother's day. quote, the national women's history mu sooe y um is
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steven noted survivors of other unimaginable crimes. every day that you have lived, every child and grandchild that your families have brought into this world has served as the ultimate rebuke to evil and the ultimate expression of love and hope and you are an inspiration to every single one of us. on behalf of all of us, thank you for the example of your lives and sharing your stories with us in the world. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was president obama last night speaking at steven spielbe spielberg's shoa foundation, which documents the stories of holocaust survivors. there's a reminder as to why it's so important that survivors share their stories with the world. because believe it or not. there are teachers in america who are actually encouraging debate about whether the
holocaust ever took place. the rialto unified school district gave its eighth grade students perhaps the most disturbing, ignorant essay assignment imaginable this spring. when tragic events occur in history, there's a debate about their actual existence. for example, some people claim the holocaust is not an actual historical event but instead is a propaganda tool that was used for political purpose and monetary gain. based upon your research in this issue, write an argumentative essay in which you can explain whether or not you believe the holocaust was an actual event in history or merely a political scheme created to influence public emotion and gain wealth. after the district was criticized for that assignment, school board fishes who first defended that assignment, but the board later apologized. the associate dean recently
spoke at a rialto school board meeting. and with me is a special guest tonight, martin goldsmith, a journey of remembrance. he traces the root members of his own family took as they tried to flee the holocaust and were subsequently taken to au auschwi auschwitz. his grandfather and uncle beth perrished there at that death camp. i want to start with the bad news then a get to this excellent book by martin goldsmith. rabbi, tell me about this -- what was your reaction when you heard about the fact that school kids were given an open question arnt parentally, was there a holocaust. >> well, actually, chris, first offal all, amen to what the president said last night about survivors and the unique role they play with young people in terms of giving hope and guidance for the future. the actual reality was a lot worse. it wasn't just one teacher. there were five teachers who collaborated on this project.
there was someone within the district curriculum who reviewed it. we still don't know if this was just the ultimate stupidity or something worse. but 2,200 eighth graders in rialto were given 18 pages to look at, told to quote reliable documentation, which was quote, unquote, provided. anne frank was a hoax. stuff down loaded from hate sites. maybe it was supposed to be designed for critical thinking, but what it did was elevated hate with historic fact. and maybe one of the good news i reported to you, there was another call that was down there last night. thankfully, we still have a few holocaust survivors and they'll be there to give a human face,
the human touch to these unbelievable statistics. to humanize what happened after the holocaust is important. >> this will allow a person to come to their own conclusion, current events are part of the basis for measuring iq. the middle east, israel, palestine and the holocaust are on newscasts discussing current events, teaching how to come to your own conclusion based on the facts to test your position, be able to articulate that position then depend your belief with a lucid argument is essential to good citizenship. martin, i've watched for years when people who are jewish go on c-span even and you get this reaction from crazy people. anybody who reads these follow-up comments online. the anti-semitism is out there. but here teachers saying that's one point of view.
>> exactly. it's astounding. and my grandfather and uncle were two of the 6 million, two of the 1.1 to 1.5 million people murdered 234 auschwitz. i was outraged when i heard about this. you went back and just for your own human need went back and retraced how people who were in your family on the st. louis that was sent back from america, sent back from cuba, ending up in three-quarters of the cases going to the death camp. >> exactly right. my grandfather alex goldschmidt, helmut goldschmidt, more than 200 refugees turned away first from cuba then the united states, then canada. the ship sailed back to europe. my grandfather and uncle got off the boat in france, spent the next three years in various french concentration camps before being shipped to their deaths in auschwitz in 1942. three years ago, my wife and i retraced their steps beginning
in the small lore saxony village where my grandfather was born in 1879, going to all the places in france they were held and hitting in the polish city where auschwitz is. >> that's important to go back, tell the human story of a guy like this who i've been listening to on radio, classical music. somebody you know says look, my family, i went back and traced it. it happened in human terms. we know they have all the names in israel of people who were killed. but these people keep -- >> from 5.5 million visitors to the museum of tolerance. young people want to know the truth. they will identify with the message. sometimes they have more common sense than the adults in the room. but when you have teemp, five of them, and an assignment on core things of teaching about critical thinking down loading hate material, you know, what's next? we monitor websites that say
harken back to the great old days of slavery and say blacks were better off then or the martin luther king website that's put up by white supremists that denigrate. we should be using the hate materials to teach critical thinking, not legitimatizing the hate message to young minds. it really was a disastrous dpigs on the ground. and we'll take care of the young people that went through this, but i sure hope the rialto school district will take a hard look in the mirror. something is very broken there.
>> some holocaust deniers say give me a chance i'll finish the job. and then tler other biogots who say i don't want to deal with what happened. those people are in some way more dangerous. >> the great irony is i think the government of germany has, as a country, i was just over in berlin with my wife, you see the way they've recognized it with berlin with that encredible memorial to the horror. and at least they're doing that over there now. anyway, thank you. rabbi and my new friend albert goldschmi goldschmidt. it's a great human story. it really is a great story about going back and -- it's a road picture, if you will, of a man tracing a tragedy. it's a great book to read. hey there can i help you?
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the preface of the tenth anniversary paper back edition of tim's book about his dad, "big russ & me." i know why i loved my dad. he was my best friend. but now years after his death, i often wonder why the guy who threw around games, made me laugh and recite vocabulary cards. my dad could relate to anyone. luke russert is nbc's congressional correspondent and joins me right now. luke, it's great. >> thanks for having me. >> first of all the book was great. if luke russert -- tim russert had not been a star of our immediate wrum, of news gathering and news analysis this book still would have been great. what's great about it, you have come far because you've done all of this in your youth. but your dad came from a regular family, working-class family. his father was a garbage man. and what i love -- in fact, we were talking how we're careful with our garbage now.
we always make sure the senior producer and i agree, we make sure personally because of this book never to leave sharp objects in the hefty bags because they cut the hands are or the guys. >> the garbage guys. >> the moment that got to me in this book -- you have to read this book -- is the emotional moment when tim is riding around in a garbage truck with his dad. and even though that's not the most celebrated job in the world, the pride he had in being with his dad. >> it's something that resonate ed so vividly with him. and i remember my father often talking about how he was able to interview popes and presidents. but some of his proudest memories were, in fact, on that garbage truck with my grandfather. and one of the things he documents in the book he learned the val you you of hard work on the back of that garbage truck, and that he knew for a fact after he did it for a summer there's no way he could have lasted the dozens and dozens of years my grandfather did it. one he especially poignant mome my father decides he's going to
go on to college and graduate school and succeed, it's the last day in the garbage truck he takes off his uniform and throws in the back and the guy riding says you'll be back soon enough. he says, no, i'm not coming back. i have to get out of here. my grandfather is very supportive of that but wanted him to know the meaning of hard work, the meaning of what would happen if you flunked out. it was remarkable. >> when i complain about a writing assignment late at night, i think how hard my dad worked. i can do it. your dad was driven, driven to get the answers. he was like an irish cop if in the interrogation room. finding out the answer. i watched him on "meet the press." he would come in with that m manila folder. he would keep it aside. during the interview he'd open up with the real question, david duke, why did you hate america so much that you joined the nazi party? and there was no answer. or you say the three biggest job producers are the issue and he had no idea who they were. >> what his method was, he
learned in law school. he was prosecutorial. his idea was nobody was going to outresearch him. he would read constantly. he would read at work. he would read at home. he would have mounds and mounds and mounds of research. tons of legal briefings, if you will. and he would read it all, and he would anticipate ten steps ahead from whatever answer his guest would give. oftentimes you see now, you come forward as a host -- and i've been guilty of doing it as well and i'm sure you are. you have three or four thoughtout questions and you don't listen clearly enough to the response his guest was giving. he was an aggressive listener and would sometimes throw away his preprepared questions. excuse me, what you said is spin. the reason i know i read all these documents. >> this follow-up is key. of all the time, the best question comes out of the last answer, which is true. i could do it all day. i'm here to sell the book. i think it's a great personal story about america. >> this is. it's a story of growing up.
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let me finish tonight with this insidious plan to scare up right-wing voteders and scare off the votes the of those who tend to vote democratic. this is just the kind of campaign mentality that leads to trouble on the part of those who pursue it. everyone knows the republicans
are heading for a good election night this november. they are poised to win the senate. poised, at least, and to pick up five to ten seats in the house of representatives. you know it. they know it. believe me, smart democrats know it. so why this plan to roll up the score are to bring out the crazies on the right and drown out 0 the progressives including many minorities who will be intimidated by the new republican pushed voter laws. i've watched how exactly this kind of stuff blows up in your face. it did with richard nixon in 1950 when he called his senator opponent pink right down to her underwear and when he took a sure win for re-election and turned it into watergate. the trouble with nasty politics like the kind we're getting from the house leadership is it makes you look nasty. it makes it look like you're moneygrubbing on the debts of those four american depp mats, like you're ready to kill a little more faith in government to get a few more votes. it's a rotten deal, and the people who play it will pay for it. maybe not this year but in the years to come.
we look forward to seeing that kick off. that's going to do it for a wednesday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ the top democrat in the u.s. senate majority leader harry reid has now mentioned the bill nra koch brothers this year more than 140 times. >>er in in it to make the money. an attempt to buy our democracy. it's dishonest, deceptive, farce and unfair. >> it is wrong. incorrect. [ laughter ] erroneous. [ laughter ] >> even the keystone debate, mr. president, they're one of the main owners of all that stuff up there. that ugly tar stuff in canada. they are, if not the largest, second largest owner of that stuff up there. [ laughter ] good morning.
hey will. >> good morning, it's wednesday, may the 14th, on set, along with me, we've got joe here that's here. >> that's all. >> msnbc. >> it's a good show, right? >> yes. >> you can't always predict who is going to be here. >> it's exciting. >> it's interesting, it remains the name of the show. mike barnicle is here. former communications director for george w. bush, nicolle wallace. >> jon stewart went in last night. and landed another blow right here. >> this guy spent millions fighting online gambling. tens of millions fighting organized labor. in the 2012 presidential election he gave $90 million to republican candidates. perhaps because he thought he would help him take on quote,
radical islam and unions. yeah, that's right. laugh harry reid is going to crush this guy. >> so don't pick on him. >> wait? sorry, what did you say there? don't pick on the billionaire that puts money in politics. >> he's not in this for money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. [ laughter ] >> what the [ bleep ] difference does that make? [ laughter ] what are his ideological objections to online that the largest gambling casino has? >> i can't tell overt internet who is under age. i can't tell whose got financial difficulties. i can't tell who is not gaming responsibly. >> but if you come to my casino -- [ laughter ] you don't enter without answering a very detailed
financial solvency questionnaire. >> if you lost john stevens, you lu lost everything. he didn't make a distinction between the koches and the adelsons. >> and also speaking of "daily show" skits, let's continue with news about karl rove. karl rove is dullinging down that hillary clinton should be prepared for scrutiny about her health if she decides to run in 2016. the republican strategist pushed back who claimed he openly claimed the former first lady had brain damage. he said, of course, she doesn't have brain damage. still, it's pretty clear where he's trying to aim voters' attention. >> my point was, if hillary clinton were going to run for president, but she would not be
human if this didn't enter into consideration. this will be a topic in the 2016. they will be 69. she will be 77 if she serves two terms and this ends up being an issue. >> clinton's spokesperson blasted rove's remarks saying hillary clinton has recovered 100% from the blood clot from 2012. a republican and the white house getting involved as well. >> this was not clever. this wasn't an insinuation. this was karl rove running head first into a brick wall. nothing drives people away from a decent office than this kind of attack. they say why would i put my family through this. it weakens -- in both parties, it weakens the fabric of both. >> here's what i say about cognitive capacity, that dr. rove might have been the last person on election night to recognize and acknowledge that
the president won re-election in the state of ohio. we'll leave it at that. >> go back to the newt gingrich comment it weakens the fabric. that's tough talk coming from newt. we go fresh off the thrilla in manila. we'll let you be the one around the table to defend karl rove this moraning. he didn't say brain damage -- >> he said she was wearing a kind of glasses that were associated with severe brain trauma or something like that. >> which i find this fascinating because she wore coke bottle glasses in college. you have ever seen those pictures of hillary in the late '60s and early '70s? what's karl thinking? >> i think she couldn't wear her
sunglasses, she they gave her a pair of glasses. >> she was wearing the same style four years ago and her traumatic brain injury didn't get in the way of being the most successful secretary of state in history. >> let me try to explain karl. what karl -- >> let me try to explain karl. >> hey, i feel different. karl didn't just stumble into this line of questioning about hillary clinton's health, okay? he's one of the most prepared and deliberate speakers. and when he gave speeches at the white house, people were always doing -- you know, reading research. so this karl's nature, is that things are talked through. he plans these types of thing. >> so are you telling me that he thought through this before saying this? >> well, i think he thought
through and is probably, you know, maybe not in front of -- >> what's his strategy? >> well, i think injecting questions about her health crisis from a few years ago is something that karl thinks is fair game. and i think that the fact that we're having a three-day conversation about hillary's age and health, he is in this objective. >> it's not about hillary's age and health. it's about whether karl rove suffered brain damage. >> well, to some. but some of the people that may be thinking about 2016 have definitely given some thought to -- >> she is giving it all she has. >> that's all i've got. >> karl rove -- you know what -- >> can we go back to jon stewart, is there anything else? >> you gave us an ending. >> i mean -- >> listen, katrina was easy compared to this.
>> well, when you rebecome president, you release the results of your colonoscopy. >> you know what karl was trying to do. >> if she becomes president, there will be countless discussions, over the years she will release her -- >> this comes directly from the stupid part of it you're talking about. ronald reagan got inaugurated at 69. when he starts at 69 and leads at 77, i think about ronald reagan. that's not a bad thing. >> there anything that they can device to try and diminish hillary clinton, they're going to use brain damage, benghazi, boko haram now. that's what this is. >> that's all this is. >> jim peters -- go ahead. >> i was going to follow up on what nicole was saying, she's exactly right, this is not
accidental. hillary's health is something that democratic strategist have been whippering about for about a year now, when they talk about what can ruin her candidacy, it's always a question of her health. here's a case of the most public visible case really spilling out into the open. now, one thing i think this is not, and you've heard some of this chatter over the last couple of days, i don't think this is sexist. i think you would have had these questions come up about biden. >> it's ageist. >> nicholl, remember i told you, they released that ad, how many houses did john mccain have? well, he can't quite remember. >> that was an attack against his family wealth and his age. >> and his age, right. >> these questions were going to come out, anyway. i think the question is whether or not karl rove has temporarily taken it off the table by being
so crass about it. >> but the other thing that shouldn't get lost, it is interesting, look at how the clintons respond. their first response is pretty funny. she's 100%. but they escalated throughout the day to near hysteria through the end of the day, whoever gave the initial response should be given the job of rapid response and whoever gave the second or two should be the understudy. >> for people that don't sit around sets like this or don't talk to journalists, there have been questions off camera, speculation. i only say this because jerry was talking about republicans. it wasn't just republican a lot of reporters were worried about her health. of course, they had absolutely no evidence whatsoever. they were worried. >> they were worried with justification after that fall. >> with some justification, it took her a while to come back
but it was speculation. and karl rove didn't help himself and he didn't help the republican party by speculating like he did. >> when we get the results of all of these personal data, colonoscopies and everything else, i think we'll find out she's healthy as a horse. >> there you have it. >> marco is clarifying remarks? >> yeah, going back to the climate change remarks. senator rubio found himself the target of unwanted headlines after he recently entered the climate change debate talking at the national press club. the potential 2016 presidential contender tried to clarify remarks he made on sunday. here are the original remarks and what he had to say about them yesterday. >> i don't agree with the notion that some are putting out there including scientists that somehow that are actions that have is an impact on our climate. >> let me get this straight, you do not think that the human activity, the production of co2
is caution changes? >> i do not believe that human activity is causing changes the way the scientists are portraying. i do not propose the laws they pass will do anything about it. >> headlines notwithstanding, of course, the climate is changing because climate is always changing, that's a measurable you can see. there is climate change. i've never conceded that the climate is not changing. that's not the question before me as a policymaker. the question before me as a policymaker, is that if we ban all coal in the u.s., if we ban all carbon emission information the united states, will it change the dramatic changes in climate and the dramatic weather impacts that we're now reading about? and anyone that says that we will, it not being truthful. but for you to go out and say if you pass this bill that i am proposing this will somehow lead to us have less tornadoes and hurricanes, that's not an accurate statement. >> seems rational to me. >> listen, i may be out of step with my party on this.
i don't know where you have to live to think that the climate isn't changing dramatically. and miami is one of those places where they haven't seen dramatic change. it's not the same thing as acknowledging that climate change is real. >> i guess what's interesting about this, i'm not exactly sure who marco's audience is. he says he believes in climate change. i do believe, like he said, that we're not going to pass legislation they're going to stop tornados and hurricanes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. and the left is -- >> but that's a defensible position. >> that is a more defensible position. but i'm just saying all the republicans i've talked to. and i've been talking to a lot of them for a very long time over the past four or five years, they believe in climate change, they believe that humans are responsible for climate change. the only thing they don't believe that the federal government could combat and
impose massive cut jacks because it makes extremist and trillion they'res. >> without getting china and other parts of the world that are doing more. >> they're doing more, actually. >> right. >> so in a time in the world, everybody is saying, steve, we'll go to you, we're going to be in competition with china for the next 100 years and china is going to outcompete us. at that time, we're supposed to usually disarm and let the chinese continue to damage the atmosphere more than us? and we're supposed to be worried about what tom steyer and other people say? i don't believe that. and even if we do what we do in that direction, without putting millions of americans out of work. >> i agree. first, the same people, the middle people, do want to have
some kind of coordinated change to climate change. >> they're so effective? >> the reason, nicole, they are not effective, if you're a country on your way up, and you don't have all the resources and you say, wait a minute, you guys have polluted the air for 200 years, don't i get a chance to pollute the air for a while while i'm economically developed. china, they don't have any clean energy. they have coal. and imported oil and really expensive natural gas and that's it. and they don't have any nuclear yet. so it's going to be very hard for them to do what they have to do, but he have to do it. and it thirdly, joe, there are policies, nonetheless, there are policies out there that we could put in place that would destroy millions of jobs that would put us on a path for a more responsive behavior. for example, we've not increased
the gas tax since 1983. the highway trust fund is going broke. we could raise the gas tax, rebate that to americans so it didn't cost jobs and get more balanced. >> jeremy peters on the hill, you look at polls, and i don't think climate change is at the top when it comes to intensity. i would suspect because of that we're not going to see another pass or do anything on the climate for quite some time. democrat stride in 2009. even the president was reluctant to get involved but they dragged him into that battle at the last minute. any legislation on the hill that marco rubio would have to be concerned about voting on before the election and the rest of the candidates? >> there was a bill that fell apart this week in the senate, an energy bill that was actually quite modest, the fact that it fell apart in a filibuster just shows how difficult it is to get even the smallest things through on climate. >> what -- well, you have your moderate democrats that like the
landrieus and others who do not support this legislation? >> no, it fell over keystone. there was a land mass that landrieu and bagich wanted to approve. the white house has not decided what it's going to do. and if it ultimately decides it's not going after this, they are going to wait until after the legislation to do that because they don't want it to hurt senators like begich and landreau. >> i thought it was fascinating having the canadian ambassador here last week. he kept doing the talking points that i thought came from the
koch brothers, i asked him where he got it, he said, oh, the state department study. >> our state department? >> our state department. >> this is one of the most widely overpoliticized decisions. >> a lot of very rich liberals don't want barack obama to pass this legislation. and what do they have to worry about? because they got millions and millions of dollars. it's just the 50,000 people that aren't going to have jobs because of it. i hope that makes you feel better. go to your yacht, polish it -- you won't polish it, you'll have somebody else polish it. that would be a really good paying job that makes you feel bad about yourself. have them buff your fingernails, too. coming up on "morning joe," we're going to be talking to senators rob portman and john tester about some of the most pressing issues in washington including the keystone pipeline and the controversy surrounding
the v.a. that's atrocious. and former yankee great willie randolph is going to be on set. and larry kudlow and joy reid. and miles nadal. former secretary time geithner is standing by. first, though, not fun, bill karins. >> across the country, just a crazy weather pattern. record highs on the coast. it's been snowing a couple days in colorado. how about this yesterday, it was 52 in boston. that was it. in d.c., it was 92. 40-degree swing in the northeast alone. this morning, we are tracking showers and a few storms up there around the capital district, albany, schenectady and troy. and albany you've got showers, pittsburgh, a shower or two. later this afternoon, cooler today in d.c. and baltimore than yesterday. this is where we should be this
time of year in the 70s. chance of storms from pittsburgh to buffalo. and how about out west. the drought is bad enough. now we're getting one heat wave an another. areas that don't see a lot. san francisco, san diego, 90s to 100 today. how about this for l.a., 101 today. 100 tomorrow. we finally cool it off by the weekend but the fire danger is really high. and in the middle of the country, i mean, it's cold. it's a chilly, cold morning. a lot of extremes out there. if we're going to get any tornadoes 0 are severe weather, we'll watch out for you from nashville to louisville, back up to the ohio valley. more "morning joe" when we continue. we'll be right back. ♪ when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here
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former u.s. treasury secretary timothy geithner. i'm sure they pull put u.s. treasury secretary. it could have been canada, luxembourg. but, no, this guy was former u.s. treasury secretary. he's out with a new book "stress test: reflections on financial crisis." wait wait to read this. i'm glad you finally got more people in the treasury department. let's start there. you had a couple of dogs wandering the hallways the first year. it was actually hard. that was a challenge. >> you could hear the echoes of footsteps. >> you had. but that first year, it was so shocking to us that you were going through the financial crisis of our lifetime and you couldn't get staffed. you. >> we had great people, we really did. >> i know you had great people. it took you a while, though.
what was the challenge? don't say you had great people again. you didn't just win the nfl -- okay, the super bowl. talk about the tough start. >> well, the world was burning still. remember, in january '09, the country was falling off the cliff, complete was shrinking at the rate of 9%. we had already put trillions of dollars in the financial system, but things were still frozen or falling apart. >> right. >> we had to find a way how to right the ship, how to land a plane safely. yeah, we had challenges. >> off the top, steve ratnor. >> ratnorwas fabulous. >> obviously, this book has ignited talk about what happened. different points of view, left, right, all that stuff. looking back, i think the central concern people have is
did we do too much for the banks? did we give them too much money, too cheaply, not fire enough ceos, more pain from the share 408der, more pain from the executives who got bonuses. how do you feel about that? was there stuff that could have been done differently, i know you had legal constraints but wasn't there something that could can be done differently? >> i think the huge damage done by the crisis and all the bad people that caused the crisis, they say, really, seriously, you couldn't bring a tougher measure of justice more quickly for people. but that was a classic panic. we were risking the great depression. and the first challenge was to land the plane safely. once we landed the plane, we moved quickly to try to clean up the system and bring a much better response. it's true, you could look back and say, was it tough enough on
them? but the first obligation, the most important obligation was to protect the risk of massive unemployment, a great depression. we did that, it wasn't messy, but we did that effectively. better than any government has in the last 100 years in a financial crisis. >> you write about being handed talking points by a white house official -- >> it was actually my treasury colleague. >> i'm not trying script you but suggesting messages that you had a pretty visser ral negative reaction to. i certainly have been in the position that they may have been in of wanting a cabinet secretary to echo a message. seeing it from your perspective -- i know you worked with some of my former colleague in the bush administration. you can talk about how political your job got and how difficult that was? >> i think one of the most important tests of government in a crisis is the ability to put policy above politics. >> it's impossible, isn't it? >> no, it's not.
in fact, i think that was a great moment for the united states. if you look at that moment, you know, the transition between a republican and a democratic president, you know, the world at the edge of a great depression. you had two presidents with bipartisan support, mostly from democrats at that point. basically put politics aside. and do what's necessary to help pull the country back from the abyss. it was a pretty big moment. >> with the t.a.r.p. and all of that? >> with the first to break the back of the panel. then the stimulus to put money back in the hands directly of the american people. and then the range of the financial system. i got a pretty good test of government at a terrible time. and we passed that test much better than other governments who sat there, were paralyzed by their politics. or played politics with the crisis. a pretty good moment for the bank. >> you mentioned in january 2009, we were on the brink. that was a term we heard a lot.
the country's about to go over the cliff in the fall of 2008. what does that mean explicitly and specifically? i mean, what would have happened if we hadn't taken that step back? >> take a look at the great depression, there's no memory of it. you know, people didn't live through it. but in the great depression, unemployment went to 25%. and gdp fell by 25%. and it took a decade to try to get back to some measure of security for people. and that's because we allow it as a country, a financial panic torsion escalate and bring the system to collapse. and why does that happen, it's like the lights going out. it's like the power not functioning. if the company can't get oxygen, people can't borrow and businesses fire people on a brutal scale and people are trying to protect themselves. that produces a certain set of conditions, panic leads to crash. that's why it's so damaging. and then, of course, they have massive innocent victims in that
content. >> so how close were we? >> right at the edge. paulson wrote he thought we were three days away from the atms not working. people were talking about burying gold in their backyards. you could hear panic and fear in the voice of the leaders of the world and largest corporations at that time. >> mika does that. unrelated to the economy. jeremy peters is in washington, "the new york times" has got a question for the secretary, mr. secretary. >> mr. geithner, one of the prime takeaways of this book is just how complicated your relationship with larry summers is. he promoted you to various senior positions. he was your mentor. and as you know, the president was strongly considering him for chairman. federal reserve, twice, actually. do you think that president obama made a mistake by not picking him? >> no, i think that janet yellen
is going to be excellent. i watched her make judgments at a very complicated time. and i think she's going to be an excellent chairman. i have just huge respect for larry summers, i think month more talented person in the country. henry kissinger said about larry summers, you should give him a permanent office in the oval office to vent any idea. he's a great person to work for. he's a pretty challenging, demanding guy. i used to say, what matters is the ratio between the thrill and the torture. and with larry, the thrill was -- >> higher? >> -- much greater than the torture. >> a couple issues before we wrap it up, one, what you had to say about elizabeth warren's hearing. she said she were made for youtube hearings, sort of show trial, explain. >> well, that was sort of a
gentle way to put it. >> like they were witchhunt, talk about that? >> i've got a lot of respect for her. >> it doesn't sound like it. >> i do. she did a great job in standing up with the agency and protecting from a form of abuse. she was excellent. there's a lot of oversight process. >> what made them show trials? >> well, you know, people didn't like what we were doing. it was unpopular stuff. it was essential, necessary stuff, very effective stuff but it was deeply offensive to people. it looked like we were giving money to the arsonists. the core paradox of what it takes to break a financial panic to keep the lights on. and there are going to be collateral beneficiaries of that. and that's deeply offensive. she gave a lost voice to that concern and she was very eloquent in making that case. >> speaking of arsonists, a
handful of banks still control 50%. too big has gotten even big. >> you're right, you always worry about too big to fail. and this is something we should always worry about. it's like a federal war. you should be on it. >> the big bank's concern, still approaching 50%? >> well that's not the way to think about it. that risk for the country is say much lesser risk today because of reforms we put in place. i'll give you examples. we mate capital requirements -- the limits on risk much, much more conservative than they were before the crisis. >> why? >> we had much better tools to put banks on the line when they screw up. >> let's say -- they're not going to because they've strengthened. let's say citi has a crisis, we're bailing them out or do we let citi fail? >> we're in a much better
position to let them fail that doesn't do too much damage. >> was it a mistake not to save lehman brothers? >> it's not like financial security. we don't give presidents a set of tools to react. we don't do that because of other concerns. we don't want to leave the market with expectation. >> if you could do it all over again, would you? >> if we had the authority -- >> with the authority, would you save lehman brothers? >> you don't want to save everybody in a financial crisis. it's a mistake to do that. you have to make sure you do -- we didn't have this authority until after the panic. we want to make sure we can protect the rest from the failure of the rest. you want to make them fail -- to use a different metaphor, you want to draw a fire brig around
the couordinates. >> should they have been saved? >> in retrospect, with full knowledge at that time, what we should have done, we would have escalated much more quickly to prevent the panic from spreading. of course, now, we ultimately did that, but it took a lot more work because the fire was burning too hot at that point. >> all right, tim geithner, thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you, nice to see you guys. >> the book is "stress test: reflections on the financial crisis." you can read exempts on our website mojo/msnbc.com. >> first, americans are hitting the bottle harder than ever before, we'll explain why in your morning papers and "morning joe" sports next.
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all right. let's take a look at some of the morning papers. "the wall street journal" crews, are racing to save hundreds of miners after a deadly accident in turkey. at least 201 people are dead with more than 200 others still trapped deep underground. almost a mile under there.
the coal mine is located in the town. soma, about 150 miles from istanbul. nearly 800 people were in the mine when a fire triggered an explosion. the fire is under investigation. two children are recovering from serious injuries after a gust of wind swept away one of those bouncy houses. >> my son loves those. >> oh, my gosh. >> this is that bouncy house that parents like myself. >> and me. >> and you. have been putting in your yards for your young kids' birthday parties. three children were playing inside one of these bouncy houses when it was ripped from its stakes and sent it flying high in the air. a witness took this photo that we were showing. you one child escaped with only minor injuries. >> look at that. >> look how high those three little children are up inside that bouncy house. one escaped with no injuries.
another boy has some broken bones after falling 15 to 20 feet in a parking lot. while the third has a serious is head injuries after landinging on a car. this is horrifying. terrifying. >> horrific. >> they're usually staked down when you see them in the yard. but maybe that's not strong enough when the wind picks up. from the parade of papers the san francisco chronicle, google wrote the global web of dominance got more difficult. the right to be forgotten. meaning google can be forced to erase links to content about individual people on its search engines. that includes documents. >> the quote, other documents, very important for mike barnicle. if there's ever going to be a senior staffer for elizabeth warren, he will not pass through the background check. >> that's correct. >> because of the quote, other
documents. >> other documents that are in mike barnicle's computer main frame. >> your confirmation are going to be interesting. >> legal experts say this decision will only impact operations in europe and citizens of the e.u. and from the l.a. times, army sergeant kyle white is the latest recipient of the congressional medal of money for this heroism in afghanistan in 2007. white was honored for his actions for his ambush where he helped other soldiers and maintained radio contact all while injured. some were present at the ceremony. he's the seventh living recipient for a medal of honor for actions in iraq and afghanistan. sergeant white is going to be joining us in the studio on monday. >> can't wait to meet him. the telegraph, the united states has become the world's biggest consumer of wine, all right, passing france for the first time in history. >> that's something to be proud of, right. >> a new study said wine
drinking continues to climb at a record pace, meanwhile, the popularity of wine is fading in france. u.s. consumers bought 2.9 billion liters of wine. still, the average frenchman drinks six times more wine than the american. so per capita was trailing behind. we got to get to work on that. willie, nba playoff action. >> a wild one between the clippers and thunder. let's go to the fourth quarter. okc had been down about 13 points with four minutes left. kevin pierce. and durant on the break lays it in. a two-point game. clippers quick inbound to chris paul. he turns it over. no foul called. the ball ends up out of bounds. this one is reviewed. and in a controversial call, the thunder get the ball back. so 11 seconds to play. another controversial call.
russell westbrook of oklahoma city is fouled shooting a three. he hits all three foul shots. the thunder take a 105-104 lead. with six seconds on the clock, chris paul is stripped. he loses the ball again. the thunder come back for a 105-104 win. and a 3-2 series lead. clipsers head coach doc rivers was steaming after the game. >> that's our ball. we win the game, and we got robbed because of that ball. it's clear, everybody in the arena saw it everybody was shocked when they said oklahoma city. that was our ball. we got two more games to play. but that could be a series-defining call. and that's not right. >> wow, that's pretty strong. the series goes back to l.a. society clippers get a chance to even the series back there. the wizards blew out the pacers. they were on the brink of
elimination. 102-79. it's coming back to d.c. tonight, the nets fight for their lives in miami. miami can close that out, and the spurs can do the same against the blazers. >> what about the rangers, down 3-1. >> 3-1 in the series come all the way back against the mighty pens. a couple of good one in the stanley cup playoffs. blackhawks and wild in game six. and the rangers and penguins in a huge game seven. >> and he scores! patrick kane, one hand, and chicago is headed to the western conference final. >> carried back off the wing and worked on by mcdonough. swatted on the cross. score! and the rangers are going to the conference final. >> rangers come all the way back down, 3-1 in the series to win game seven. they'll face the winner of tonight's other game seven
between the canadiens and the bruins. the blackhawks will face the winner of the ducks/kings. that series is tonight. >> can the bruins do it, mike? >> yes, they can. >> well, those are two evenly matched teams. it's go to be a great game. there will be fights tonight. >> if you can get boston and new york in the conference finals. still ahead from "morning joe" from the men who brought you freakonomics. and at 7:00, magic strikes back. he's heard enough from donald sterling. his reaction. he says enough is enough. we'll be right back on "morning joe." [ brian ] in a race,
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she's faxed them from the south of france. "the wall street journal" -- >> did she bury her gold in the south of france or westchester county, what do you think? >> put it evenly. >> you never know when the people are going to rise up. i mean if marie antonette had buried her gold in two different places she might still be with us. >> "the wall street journal" editorial board writes this. harry reid has essentially shut down the senate as a place to debate and vote down policy. he's refused to vote on on all but nine amendments since july. mr. reid is worried some of those amendments might pass with support from democrats, thus embarrassing a white house that opposes them. not too long ago it was understood that any senator could get a floor vote if he wants it. the minority party, often democrats, used this right of amendment to sponsor votes that would sometimes put the majority on the spot.
it's called politics. rightly understood, this meant the senate debated national priorities and worked its bipartisan will. >> jeremy peters, i've been about cushion harry reid for a couple years, what's with this "wall street journal" editorial? >> i think often when you're talking outrage along these lines, it's often a little bit stronger when you are the person who is on the brunt of the perceived injustices. >> right. >> and in this case, i think that's what's happening with "the wall street journal." i doubt that they would be crying so loudly if this were republicans and not a democrat. >> but, jeremy, we heard a thousand stories about those terrible republicans that won't pass democratic leases of legislation through the house. the question is can republicans fairly make -- and i'm not leading you here, i'm curious, can we not fairly make the aim argument about harry reid not
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a lot going on in congress yesterday. there was a hearing. i mean, there's so much going on, boom, boom, boom. >> real quick, there's a snake in the bathroom at texas a&m. a 12-foot rock python. came in through the back door. a little control and a bucket to get rid of it. it was an aggressive one. it was somebody's pet who got loose. >> it happens. it happens. willie, you were talking about it yesterday on the judiciary committee hearing. >> were you watching that? >> i actually was. >> very clean people. i was on the judiciary committee. very clean people.
hungry people, but a clean people. >> but those hearings are long. >> you get hungry. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank you and member connors for your willingness to work to make progress on this issue, and in making sure that other surveillance cannot be used in a similar way. i'm pleased this be addressed in the amendment. >> take a look, willie, on the right, a lot of ear wax, this happens. >> check it out. >> oh, my god. >> wax smeared on the teeth. >> seconds, anyone? >> oh! >> oh. oh, oh -- ear wax. that's disgusting. >> who eats it? >> it's awful. >> enjoy your breakfast. >> oh! that's awful. >> republican or democrat, joe
garcia. >> democrat. >> thank you god. >> okay. they at least have one of them. >> thank god. >> the pride of the 26. coming up at the top of the hour, magic johnson reacts to donald sterling in that so-called apology. >> i cannot believe, he brought up aids? >> yes, he did. plus, senator rob portman and senator jon tester showing patience for the v.a. scandal. >> by the way, jon tester -- very clean ears. >> chuck todd joins our conversation coming up in a couple minutes. stay with us. what are you doing? uh, well we are fine tuning these small cells that improve coverage, capacity and quality of the network. it means you'll be able t post from the breakroom.
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♪ jews, when they get successful, they will help their people. and some of the african-americans, maybe i'll get in trouble again, they don't want to help anybody. [ laughter ] >> maybe? maybe you'll get in trouble again? [ laughter ] jews help blacks -- eww -- unless what he's doing is workshoping new material for
donald sterling literally comedy jam. jeremy peters with us. and with us from washington, nbc news correspondent and host of "the daily rundown" chuck todd. winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. we're going to talk in two seconds about the sterling controversy. but, chuck todd, we had a lot of elections last night. a lot of races. a couple have stood out. what are your thoughts? >> well look, it's a generational change in nebraska. this is a couple of young guys taking over the nebraska republican party. pete ricketts tried to run for the senate a few years back now is a heavy favorite to be governor. and ben sass. i think what's unique about sass, a lot of groups are saying, hey, we want a race, we want a race. but the establishment is split in this race. >> now, sass went after mitch
mcconnell a way back. >> he did. this is about mcconnell. but paul join was for sass. i had sass on my show yesterday. he said he'd vote for mcconnell as leader. she'd try to put an end to that. i think he's going to be a little moron johnson than he's going to be ted cruz. a lot of people are trying to figure out where is this guy going to fit on the senate. i'd put him more on the johnson side. >> he's now a big favorite to win state wide, right? >> slightly. absolutely. and shelly is a heavy favorite in west virginia. be west virginia's first republican senator in over half a century. but she is, dare i call this person a pro-government republican. they do exist, and that's about what you have to be ideologically in place like west virginia which actually likes federal dollars coming into the
state because she's going to be somebody like a murkowski, collins, the republicans that do a lot of bipartisan deals. >> sound goods. let's go straight now, the latest from sterling, some quotes that i can't believe. >> the earthquake of the sterling interview, the ripple effect continues because we're one day after donald sterling attacked magic johnson. the former laker star is fighting back. magic was dragged into when v. stevian know post evidence this image on instagram. it's a photo made public by tmz sports. and sterling told her not to bring magic johnson or any other african-americans to clippers games to that original racist rant that was made public. it was days ago that sterling went after magic again, this time for having hiv. >> what has he done? can you tell me? big magic johnson, what has he
done? >> he's a business person. >> whose got aids. did they do any business? did he help anybody in south l.a. >> i think it's hiv, it didn't focus on aids. >> what kind of a guy that has sex with every girl and then he catches hiv. is that something that we want to respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of himself. what does he do for the black people? he doesn't do anything. >> here's a man who we would think would be educated. and a man who would -- is smart enough to build this type of wealth. he's reaching, he's trying to find on to something that's going to save his team. am i upset?
of course. but at the same time, i'm a god fearing man. i'm going to pray for him and hope that things work out for him. the problem is, he's living in the stone ages. he can't make those comments about african-americans and latinos. he just can't do it. >> gene, i don't know where to begin with the ignorant statements. let's leave hiv out of it and instead talk about the fact that for a very long time, magic johnson has focused on going into inner cities and creating economic development and bringing hope to the hopeless in a lot of african-american communities for some time. in fact, that's what i've associated him with over the past 10, 20 years. >> yeah, so many ignorant statements, so long time. it just shows how out of it and how divorced from reality donald sterling is. and i think sometimes invested certainly tens of millions of
dollars, i don't know if it's hundreds of millions of dollars into low-income communities across the country, created economic opportunity. he has walked the walk, in addition to talking the talk. and is the last person in the world that you would say such an ignorant and prejudice thing about. but there you go. that's donald sterling. that's the donald sterling we've come to know. and not exactly love. >> mike barnicle, how can this guy remain associated in the nba? i can't see any judge thinking that there's any way that he would have any standing, to have any part of any team? >> well, he can take them to court, certainly, but there's no way he's going to end up with the l.a. clippers at the end of this, with whatever litigation proceeds. i choose to go back to what is soon to be ex-wife reference last week when she said she
thought certainly that donald sterling was in the early stages of dementia. >> he's got to be. who would do that? >> it's possible, the racism goes back a bunch of years, guys. >> yeah. >> so it's not like this stuff wasn't buried down in there. maybe even his sensor is turned off. >> no doubt. there's no guard rail now, so he's going right off the cliff. >> it's insanity. and it's just -- i don't know -- i don't know how this guy, and we've asked this question before, thomas, how is this guy been allowed to be an owner since 1981, the nba had to know, had to know. well, they did know that he had racist tendencies. >> yeah, they had the largest judgment go against him for discrimination and a payout that he and his wife had to make based on discriminatory practices. so the nba does know what's
there. if they have something to leverage him out -- and he agreed, mike, as you point out, he knows what's in the laws of nba ownership. if they have majority of those owners saying he's got to go, he's got to go. that's something that he agreed to on the front end. and according to his work philosophy, if magic johnson made such a mistake and should fall into the background and never be heard from again, what's his problem? he's made such a horrendous mistake that he should drop off the face of the earth. >> obviously, he has nobody around him that can counsel him. and he's stumbling from one crisis to another. it's unbelievable. speaking of surprising, it's not quite along those lines. but karl rove is actually doubling down on the suggestion that hillary clinton should be prepared for serious scrutiny about her health should she decide to run for president in 2016. >> we've got the republican strategist that is pushing back
against the new york post head line. he questioned whether the former first lady may have brain damage. it's pretty clear where he's trying to aim the voters' attention. >> my point was, that hillary clinton wants to run for president, but she would not be human if this didn't enter into consideration. and my other point is this will be an issue in the 2016 race. whether she likes it or not. she'll be 69 by the 2016 election. and she'll be 79 if he ends up erving two terms. >> clinton's camp blasted back saying she's recovered 100% from a blot clot in 2012. it wasn't just clinton pushing back, a well-known republican and white house jumped into it as well. >> this wasn't clever, ant it wasn't insinuation. this was karl rove running into a brick wall. nothing drives decent people running away from public office
more than this type attack. it weakens the fabric of democracy. >> here's what i would say about cognitive capacity which is that dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge that the president had won re-election, including the state of ohio, so we'll leave it at that. >> chuck todd, what's going on? i mean, i just don't understand why would karl rove bend over backwards to make hillary clinton look like a more sympathetic figure? >> i am curious. it's amazing the conspiracy those are i heard yesterday. rove did this, he's doing the old lbj here. make them deny that they have brain damage. throw it out there and then say, oh, i didn't say brain damage, brain damage, brain damage, you know, but i'm trying to get it into the ether. and then i've talked to other folks who say that rove truly
was sort of shell-shocked that that got out there. that wasn't what he meant. >> well, he didn't exactly spin it very well yesterday. >> and he didn't spin is very well, no. look, the fact is she's the same age, she's going to be the same age as reagan was. if you're going to go down this road and claim she's going to have health issues, and things of that nature, then you may have to be throwing your own guy, ronald reagan under the bus a little bit. so i think this is a dangerous, tricky road to go down. and as we saw, with rove, you go down this road, and you stumble down this road, i mean, i agree, at any point, any presidential candidate has deputy release their health records. i don't care if they're 45 or 70. at the end of the day, i think it's important, the american public wants to know, they want to make their judgment about who the running mate is, things like that. so that is fair game. but to sit there and say it only really applies to her.
and you go down that road, it's going to look a little sexist if you're not careful. and it's going to backfire. >> you obviously have known hillary for a very long time. and you're absolutely confident. while you said legitimate -- there are a lot of people legitimately concerned after her fall that she's doing fine. >> look, i think she's doing fine. you watch her during her time as secretary of state, all the travlgs all the wear and tear and meetings she did. yeah, she had a little health problem, but probably would the rest of us after what she went through. regardless of what rove was doing, it's clear what what he was doing. if somebody like joe biden decides he wants to be in the mix two or three years older than hillary, it's going to apply to him. senator marco rubio found himself the target after recently entering into a climate change debate. speak at the national press
club, the potential 2016 contender looked to clarify remarks he made sunday. here are the original markings and what he said yesterday. >> i don't agree with the notion that some are putting out there including scientists that somehow there are actions we can take today that would actually have an impact on our climate. >> let me get this straight you do not think that human activity, production of co2 has causing change? >> i do not believe human activity is causing changes to our climate. i do not believe the laws that they will pass will do anything about it. >> headlines notwithstanding i of course, the climate is incorporate challenging because the climate is always changing, that's a measurable you can see. i've never disputed that climate is changing. i pointed out that climate is always changing. it's never static. that's not the question before me ace policymaker. the question before me as a policymaker, if we ban all coal,
all carbon emission information the united states will it change the dramatic weather impacts that we're now reading jab and anyone who says that we will is not being truthful. but for me to go out and say if you pass this bill that i'm proposing this will somehow lead us to have less tornadoes or hurricanes, that's just not an accurate statement. >> there we have him cleaning up his language but former president gore speaking about the calculus around climate change. he's said it's not complicated and why candidates are carving out their positions now. >> they will face primary opponents financed by the koch brothers and others who are part of their group, if they even breathe the slightest breath of sympathy for the truth. >> sympathy for the truth. jeremy peters, let's talk to you about the whiplash effect that we're seeing from senator marco rubio. obviously what he had to say to jonathan karl did not go over
well at the national press club and he's giving a different answer on climate change. >> i think this is what happens when you're thinking about running in a republican primary at the same time trying to become a viable national figure. you have to say one thing that on the one hand doesn't alienate the base. in this case, the republican base doesn't want to hear that global warming is man-made or a serious problem. but on the other hand, the majority of americans feel this is a real issue and that it needs to be dealt with at a federal level. so you've also seen this pattern from other contenders. possible contenders for the republican nomination. remember what happened with rand paul when he came out and said that republicans need to stop talking about voter fraud. and voter i.d. he got slammed on the right, even though what he said, this is offensive, republicans need to be careful about the way they're talking about this. it's offending african-americans. yesterday, he walked those statements back, saying, well, i
didn't say -- i didn't say that these laws are a bad idea. all i was saying is that we need to not talk about them as much. a lot of times these guys are trying to have it both ways. >> chuck, off of what jeremy just said, potential candidates trying to have it both ways, not offending the base. karl rove's comments about hillary clinton. the base, not only the republican, but specifically, the republican base, where does this potential field of candidates go in appeasing the base, while perhaps alienate oeg they have a demographic problem anyway in this country. can they shoot the middle here? is there a middle for them? >> i don't know, they have a -- we talk about a demographic problem. i go back to the term and color phrase of 2013, this is a period of time where it's not exactly where the democratic party was in a great place in virginia. and he used climate change, he
used some of these issues. but climate change was one of them, to define his opponent as out of the mainstream. you won't believe what he said about this in suburban -- in a suburban part of the state. this is -- there is a sort of a suburban wing that used to exist of the republican party that's sort of pro-business. the old eisenhower, rockefeller republicans. the children of them are starting to vote democrat. not because they're enthusiastist perhaps about the democratic party but they're just -- they've gone all brian sullivan to reference that. but they go, wait a minute, what's going on over here? and they feel as if you can't have rational discussions about certain policy issues. and so that's the voter that they've also turned off in suburban america. and 2016, the clintons are very good at wooing suburban america. and climate change that can turn
off potential with right-leaning republicans. >> gene robinson, a fascinating story in the front page of "the washington post," your newspaper. you read the article, he has conservative challenge from the right in his district. there was this weekend, where cantor was booed by republican act that visits. quite a turn of events for a guy who was seen as the conservative alternative to john boehner just a year ago. what's going on? >> well he's in trouble. and it's hard to figure why or how. because he's gone so far out of his way to try to define himself as the more tea party-friendly member of the leadership. of the leadership duo. and the one who will, unlike john boehner was really with the tea party. now, he faces this challenge that seems to be getting serious. i mean, i don't know that -- i don't know that you can call him
in grave peril at this point. you know, look, the majority leader in the house in a safe district, isn't supposed to be in trouble at all. at this point of the cycle. and i think it shows something that's happening in general about the republican party through these primaries. even though the so-called establishment candidates are winning a lot of races. they didn't win last night in nebraska, particularly. but they're winning a lot of races. but the tea party is bringing the staekt farther to the right in some cases. cantore will probably be brought yet further to the right. this, i think, could present problems for the republican party in the general election. >> we shall see. all right. thank you so much, chuck todd, thanks. we're going to be watching "the daily rundown" at 9:00 a.m. eastern.
you guys go after it, right? >> the irrational middle, that's what america needs. angry middle. >> the angry middle. they saw it yesterday. gene, stay with us if you can. former yankee second baseman willie randolph is here to explain why the yankee way it's the way it is. and senator jon tester is here later this hour. up next, his energy bill was derailed by the controversial keystone pipeline. we're going to get senator rob portman's thoughts on that and much more. you're watching "morning joe." be right back. 0
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unfortunately, many americans live on the outskirts of hope. some because of their poverty. and some because of their color.
and all too many because of both. our task is to help replace their despair with opportunity. and this administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in america. >> that's lyndon johnson 50 years ago, declaring a war on poverty. now with the republican senator from ohio, rob portman who has revealed his ideas for a conservative plan to take on poverty. thank you so much, rob, for being with us. >> you you bet. >> we thought it was an either/or. you have to be republican or you have to fight against poverty. what are your plans? paul ryan's been talking about a focus on poverty, too? what are we willing to do to help in this area? >> well, first, just the opposite you know, from
either/or. lyndon johnson just talked about opportunity, rather than despair. i mean, lieu technical economy today, joe, we're clearly at a point of despair, in the sense that poverty is up -- the rate of poverty is up. 47 million below the poverty line. we also have a weak economy coming out of a recession. the recovery is not adding hope and opportunity to the middle class, as well as people on the poverty line. so the question is, what do we do about it? i think there's two major things. one is, we need to grow an agenda. and you and i have talked about that, that includes transforming all of the economy, from the health care system to tax code regulations and so on. that's what jfk talked years before this. a rising tide lifts all votes. and second, even with a rising tide, people are going to fall through the cracks and end up on the shoals. we talked about prevention and
treatment and recovery. some of the models there, two decades ago, you and i worked on this issue of drug abuse from a republican perspective, but also a bipartisan perspective. i've done this with regard to prison re-entry with second chance. my point is there are ways to get at this with constructive conservatism because we know it would. >> if we're talking about this, i'm just pressing you a little bit here, if you came out and said i've got a plan to take on poverty and tax cuts, et cetera, et cetera, a lot of people are going to roll their eyes and say, well, that's the republican party we've been hearing about for 50 years. there has to be a spending component to it if you're going to get people's attention. are you and other republicans willing to invest in some of these programs to make a difference? >> yeah. i think we do. we invest in what works. i talked about yesterday, joe, of the fact that we should use federal funds to leverage local
and nonprofit private funds. this has happened with regard to the drug issue. the example i used was this legislation that was passed two decades ago that i offered that talks about how to get community coalition, started. it turns out there's like 5,000 coalitions that have been sparring for the act. it has to be funded at the local level. it involves the whole community coming together. the idea is it's not going to be solved from washington. also evidence-based approaches, i talked about the second chance and the fact that it requires that we use the best practices and the federal government has a big role to play there because some of the best research is done at the federal level. you can bring together best practices. you can go online and see the website it's called what works. >> gene robinson with "the washington post." >> senator portman, good to talk with you. >> thank you. >> does the republican party have any plans to address poor
people? to try to communicate with poor people on these issues and to try to sell a program that, frankly, does sound like what republicans have been say for a long time. and what a lot of team think has not worked. >> yeah, look, i don't think republicans have talked about this for a long time, john kennedy's admonition that a rising tide lifts boats. in a growing economy, some people will be left behind. i think we saw that in 1980, for instance. we saw that in the economy. and yet, ronald reagan actually talked about how do you deal with people who have drug addiction problems and therefore there are broken families and therefore there are problems. we need to get back to that. i specifically talked yesterday that you're not able to deal with some of the broken communities until you deal with drug addiction and the impacts, particularly, the impact that's
disproportionate on communities with the current war on drug which is i don't think is working. and secondly, the record number of people in prison and not dealing with them when they get out. 95% of them are going to get out. that's a conservative approach otherwise taxpayers are picking up the tab for two-thirds of those people getting back in the system. there are ways to deal with those things. >> i don't want to cut you off. we've got a lost people that want to get at you, rob. here's steve rattner. >> you had a couple references to kennedy's quote a rising tide lifts all boats. but it was a lot more than nap it was after his famous visit in 1960 when he in fact launched the war on poverty. launched what became head start. and your party was in the process of trying to cut all of those things. you of course voted against raising the minimum wage. i know you think costs jobs but
would raise 4 million or 5 million people out of poverty simply by getting them to $10.10 an hour. so what is wrong with those programs? >> steve, first of all, regarding the minimum wage, since you talked about that i strongly support programs that create jobs. i don't support raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour because it's going to create fewer jobs. the issue with regard to poverty isn't the minimum wage, with all due respect as much as it is about jobs. as you look at it, as you know fewer there been 0.3 of 1% of people are under minimum wage and under the poverty line. why? because most people under the poverty line need a job. it's not about the minimum wage, it's about a job. the problem about raising the minimum wage too fast and too high, you're going to eliminate jobs. the budget office has joined and said if you do what the president is proposing it will result in jobs being lost not gained. why not do things like making
the earned income tax credit work better. things that could affect work. i do support that in ohio. that would. i think states should be able to do that. i think we're getting off track on some of these political discussions. i know it's very popular, the minimum wage issue. again, ohio's got a higher minimum wage index. >> mike barnicle. >> senator, these are admiral goals but how do you attack poverty in this country when many members of your party have voted to cut food stamps. they've voted to repeal health care, you talk about a rising tide lifts all boats. how do you talk about a rising tide that lifts boats still filled with the hungry and rising ill-health? >> i do believe that the rising tide theory is important. in fact, i think it's necessary. you got to have a stronger economy. you've got to have growth. there are five or six things that we should do immediately to
get the economy moving again. dealing with health care costs. and the competitive global economy. we've got to do a much better job really reforming all of our institutions of our country as other countries have done when we have not. my point is that's not enough. it's not sufficient. the question is how do you come up with ways that are practical, i call it constructive, to actually look at what's worked. and deal with the issues. i don't believe it's going to happen from washington alone. by the way, lyndon johnson said that later in that same speech which is this is not going to happen in washington, it's going to happen in the field. it's going to happen in private homes in public lawsuits from the courthouse on up. he even acknowledged this is not something that's going to happen in washington. but washington has an important role to ply. that's what i tried to lay out in my speech yesterday. >> rob, thank you for being with us. senator rob portman. tomorrow morning on the show, glenn greenwald is going to join us on his new memoir on braying
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back from iraq and the injuries to the vets are pretty intense, especially the ones we can't see. i think the v.a. is doing a pretty good darn job. that being said, if one veteran dies because somebody screwed up on a wait-list, that's far too many. >> first of all, i've got to say, there are a lot of veterans that would take exception to you saying, quote, the v.a. is doing a pretty good job. if you think the v.a.'s doing a pretty good job. i think you may be one of people in washington, d.c. that think that v.a. is doing a good job, but maybe one of the few people in america who believe that. >> i couldn't disi agree with you more. i've been around the state of montana. i've talked to veterans for the last eight years. and i'm not a veteran. i've talked to veterans. and i can tell you almost truly without exception they truly appreciate the v.a. is it perfect? absolutely not. does it need to be improved? absolutely. we need to work on it, especially when it comes to
mental health issues. but overall, i will tell you that the v.a., and i'd know it's in vogue right now to politicize everything that's going on with the v.a. but the bottom line is, we need to get to the bottom of this, we need to find out if there's wrog doing and hold people responsible. >> it's not in vogue with all due respect, senator, there's been a waiting list that's been extraordinarily long. an you've got parts of the v.a. that are actually cooking the books. and possibly killing veterans. >> we need to get to the bottom of that. but i will tell you, the waiting list, we knew was coming. it was coming. and i can tell you that this secretary has reduced it by 45%. that being said, it's being increased by 45%, too. because we're having veterans come home from iraq and afghanistan as we wind these wars down. and i think it's good we're winding these wars down but we've got to be realistic. the fact is, the waiting list is too long. secretary shinseki has made it a priority. and he's worked hard at it. and he needs success.
in the meantime, what has congress done? well, we've had sequestration and shutdowns and anything but certainty to the v.a. so when we see politicians badmouthing the v.a., they're pointing a finger at the v.a. and three back at themselves. >> that's bad mouthing the v.a. paul reichoff is bad mouthing the v.a. he's not a politics. and there are are millions of other veterans for some reason don't share your rosy scenario of the v.a. >> let me tell you, the v.a. has plenty of room to improve. but they do plenty of things right, too. i think if we want to focus on the negative and we don't want to focus on ways to improve the v.a., then we'll be right where we are right now. asking for resignations when we don't have all the facts. we need to get all the facts and then we need to act appropriately. >> well senator, instead of
focusing on the negative, you come from a big state. let's talk about accessibility from ptsd treatment. you get in the car and drive for hours some veterans before they get properly treated. what can you do about that? what should the v.a. be doing about it now? >> well, what we need to do, we need to get both in the v.a. and the private sector more mental health care professionals throughout. this could be the biggest issue fatesing this country over the next 20 or 30 years. what the v.a. is doing about it, they're trying to hire as many folks as they can to serve areas both urban and rural. they're working on telehealth which is critically important. with success, by the way, even better than eye-to-eye work that they've done with the folks that have ptsd and tbi. look, it is a business issue. i don't know that we've got one psychologist east of montana. and there's a big area east of billings. there needs to be work done there, no doubt about it.
all hands on deck to get it fixed. >> senator jon tester, thank you for being with us. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i don't get it. i don't -- >> it's an outrage. >> well, you talk about -- >> i don't get that, i talk to veterans all the time. >> we have them on the show. >> i talk to veterans all the time that wonder why shinseki should still be there. they are killing vets in phoenix. they are cooking the books. i don't know if he -- if he's lobbying for another facility. in his state. i don't understand that. >> well, and you talked about -- >> i'm sorry, that is -- >> that's political in itself. >> that is one of most remarkable disconnects, political disconnects from a guy i've always respected. i don't get that. >> he's a good guy. he's heart's in the right place. but the reality is the v.a. is an incredible mess. at outrage more senators going
the house of representatives, the american flag, we have to take care of our veterans. >> and even came on saying shinseki who he has covered a long time and he doesn't get it, he doesn't get it, giant should be gone. i'm shocked that you've got a united states senator saying this is about politician? it's about vets. >> coming up next, yankee great willie randolph joins us. wow. ♪ [bell rings]
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now former second baseman, now coach for the yankees, willie randolph. we're just talking about what you're doing now. you managed the mets for how many seasons? >> three and a half years. >> you had a great run as a coach and player with the new york yankees. what's next? >> i hope i get the shot to manage. i got the opportunity and lived the dream. i grew up in brooklyn, new york.
i rooted for the mets as a youngster. i got a chance to manage the team. my life has been really charmed and really blessed. and then also captain of the yankees. living both worlds and just understanding the game has been good to me, i love the game but i'd like another shot and see if i can get better at it. >> you ought to get another shot. >> your career with the yankees spans almost 30 years. you put it all together and you saw some things. >> yes. >> you were there for reggie jackson, you were there in the 80s with don mattingly, you saw jeter come up from the minors and watch him grow under that great yankee run with joe torre. can you put into words what the experience was for you? >> it was a great experience for you, a 21-year-old kid to be a part of a world series championship. the yankee way means a winning tradition, a legacy that's rich in championships.
everyone can't win, it's not easy to win championships. i was fortunate to get traded by the pirates to the yankees and it just took off for me, again, storybook. the yankees for me are about family, tradition. the steinbrenners gave us an opportunity to win. i was fortunate to play with great players, hall of famers. >> how would you like to be joe girardi trying to handle jeter's farewell tour? >> how hard is it to know when it's time? >> the players don't know it's time. your hear feels i can do that. >> i went through that a little bit with mike piazza. he did a great job of saying you got to give me a day off, i'm okay with this.
derek is a different thing. it's got to be a tough thing for a father and son to go to the game and jeter has the day off. it's a tough, tough pill to swallow. >> when you talk about the hear, though, do you have a conflicted heart when it comes to new york and mets and yankees? i know the book is called "the yankee way" but you grew up a mets fan. do you have a conflicted heart over where your allegiance really lies? >> i'm conflicted but the best of both worlds. when you manage a team, it's like a father/son. as a player, you leave it on the field. i enjoyed playing more than managing. but when you think about me, i'm a yankee. you know, i got the world championship rings, i was captain of the team. >> the ring says it all.
distracting. >> we're all surprised you didn't say the mets way. >> and i was the honor of being one of eight yankee captains. that was special. i probably have some pin stripe blood in my veins but the love the mets. >> that ring, though, look at that bling. >> this was actually, 2000 world series. imagine living in this town? this was the most nerve racking. the true subway series. they're going on right now but had is the real subway series. >> there a lot of great stories, including the one where you went to yankee stadium as a fan and heckled derek jeter. you got to read the book. >> still ahead, magic johnson's reaction to donald sterling's
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♪ ♪ ♪ tell me you never saw this man move, doing the dance, the karl rove dance ♪ >> sickening, isn't it? >> welcome back to "morning joe." mike barnicle is with us, steve rattner, mark halpern and joy reid. thinking on the whole brain damage thing. >> we picked through that a couple of years ago. he didn't say brain damage but said was wearing glasses that suggested he had a traumatic brain injury when of course these are the same type of glasses that you wore in college. >> those milk bottle glasses. >> from the yale days. >> you remember that. >> i think this will go down in
history as a miscalibration by carl because of of the way he let it come out. i'm not 100% certain he wanted this in the blood stream. this was a private event. people can say, as nicole did yesterday, people had no know this was going to come up. he had to know this was going to come up. >> but the clean-up was not handled well either. >> what she said in private obviously is in private. obviously she didn't have brain damage. i just disagree with her on issue. >> the republican party is in crisis right now. doesn't look like jeb bush wants to run, people are worried about chris christie, there's another other establish candidate. the big gun, the big brains at the presidential level is what can we do to intimidate hillary clinton from running or try to make the conversation about her
about the past and negative. i think that's part of the package that carl's part of now but i don't think he planned this. >> well, joy, this sure isn't a way to intimidate her. if i had my opponent throwing a wild charge like that at me or let's say a member of my family i'd go, okay, well, so they're going to just hand me this election then, aren't they? it was a stupid thing to say and it was stupid to not back down from it. >> yeah, i mean, the source of it obviously he's now backing off saying he didn't really say that but it comes across, if true, as a schoolyard taunt, needlessly petty and small, a stupid insult. as somebody who grew up wearing glasses, it comes across like a schoolyard, foolish taunt. it doesn't in any way get to hillary clinton as secretary of state. like what you're supposed to go after if you're being serious about running against her is the actual content of the work she's done as a public figure, the content of what she did as
secretary of state. this petty stuff and speculating about her having brain damage, it isn't even serious politics. >> and talking about her being old, when karl rove says she'll be 69 if she wins, 77 when she gets out, you know what i think? think of ronald reagan, who was 69 when he was inaugurated, 77 when he was out. i would take eight more years of ronald reagan. i know a lot of people would. but republicans, who are listening to karl rove, i don't even think republicans get it. >> can't you just see hillary clinton saying to rand paul i'm not going to use the youth and inexperience of my opponent against him? >> exactly. >> you're reminding people she has a lot of experience in public life. people who know her and know politics understand she's a serious person. >> the republican party is in
existential crisis right now. their kind of republicans now are trying to disqualify her. it's the strategy president obama used to disqualify mitt romney. they're saying our only hope of winning now until we have a candidate that can match up with her until we have a candidate in the electoral college, is to disqualify her. that's where the energy is now. >> is karl rove more wary of hillary clinton or more leery of the existing republican field? >> he would like a horse to get on. until they have a horse, there's a one-word job description for the party right now, who can beat her?
they don't have anybody gung-ho who can beat her, to try to start enough noise who can beat or damage her. >> the tea party got a much-needed primary victory last night, some are saying. the nebraska former bush official, ben sasse captured more than half of the votes. he's scored endorsements from sarah palin and ted cruz and outside groups including club for growth. they spent millions on sasse. when he called out senator minority leader mitch mcconnell to show some, quote, actual leadership on obamacare but yesterday he down played that rift and told chuck todd he would absolutely support mitch mcconnell as leader. and pete rickets, businessman who won the primary in nebraska
had the backing of ted cruz, who campaigned out there for him. so ricketts has to be the favorite for that state. a lot of tea party got behind him and establishment got behind him as well. he was a unifying candidate, wasn't he? >> but he is an outsider. mcconnell is someone who will come to washington like senator johnson of wisconsin or mike lee from utah, he's not going to come and play nice. i don't think he'll be as far outside the mainstream of the party in terms of attitude as ted cruz. he'll be a senator and peter ricketts will be senator most
likely. >> and magic johnson was first dragged into this controversy after sterling confronted his then mistress over a photograph. stiviano posted the image of magic johnson on it instagram. sterling told her not to bring magic or any other african-american to clippers game during that original racist rant and then sterling went after magic johnson again, this time, believe it or not, for having hiv. >> what has he done? can you tell me, big magic johnson. what has he done? >> well, he's a business person, he -- >> he's got aids. did he do any business? did he help anybody in south l.a. >> i think he has hiv, he doesn't actually have full-blown aids. >> what kind of guy goes to every city, has sex with every girl and then he catches hiv. is that somebody we want to
respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of himself, he should go into the background. but what does he do for the black people? he doesn't do anything. >> here's a man who we would think would be educated and a man who would -- is smart enough to build this type of wealth and own a team, to have an incredible platform to change the world but he's doing it in a negative way. he's reaching. he's reaching. he's trying to find something he can grab on to to help him save his team and it's not going to happen. am i upset? of course. but at the same time i'm a god fearing man, i'm going to pray for him and hope that things work out for him. the problem is he's living in the stone ages. he can't make those comments about african-americans or latinos. he just can't do it. >> joy reid, why don't you tell us what donald sterling is thinking when he goes on tv and
says that? >> the only thing i can think of between that and what he said to v. stiviano on the phone, here's a man who has a desenep sense o inadequacy, just his girl friend being a picture in magic johnson -- >> what kind of fool would say that? he has to know, does he not? we all know what magic johnson has done in communities and cities over the past 20 years. the investment, the financial investments, the risk he has taken to help the disadvantaged, he's done so much. forget the ignorance about aids or hiv, the more ignorant statement has to do with the fact that magic has been doing exactly what he said blacks should do. it's insanity. >> he's a deeply ignorant man who obviously knows very little
about magic johnson other than the way he makes him feel. this is magic johnson -- in the 1980s the idea of hiv/aids terrified people. magic johnson probably more than any other single person has humanized the issue of hiv, has made people understand it in the real sense. it is considered heroic in the african-americ african-american community both for the way he has contributed to the community and -- >> why doesn't magic johnson age? magic looks like he did 25 years ago. >> he's magic. >> that's right. he's magic for a reason. >> you have lebron coming out and saying he will not play basketball next year if this creep is still running the clippers or has anything to do
with the clippers. >> i'm not that familiar with the nba board of governor rules and apparently if the majority of owners is against sterling returner so he will be done. the larger issue, joy alluded to it, do you remember the day the news broke that magic johnson and hiv? >> of course i do. >> at that stage of the hiv crisis, he provided -- >> it's impossible for people too young to remember but there was such a panic. i remember americans going to restaurants and feverishly wiping down their silverware when they got to restaurants because they were afraid they were going to get, posed to the hiv virus. magic put a loving face on the epidemic.
we all thought, oh, my god, in two, three years magic is going to be dead? >> that's right. >> no, that was a turning point in that battle that we owe an awful lot to magic for as you were saying, joy. >> arthur ashe and magic johnson are the two people who did more to end the panic for hiv/aids than anyone else. the federal government refused to use the word aids, people fighting for basic drug care. people thought he would die almost immediately. his survival in and of itself but also his really just incredibly dignified champion of just living with hiv, besides the fact that he was just an ignorant fool who should be out of the nba, that is stupid. >> magic of '91, that's the on thing people would be thinking
about now. now that's way down on the list. people don't even think about it. talking about living with hiv and making a big difference in american society, the guy did it. joy, thank you for being with us. do you know what your show is going snto be? >> we're going to be talking about this and we're going to be talking about the nigerian girls. this is a very personal issue to me and we're going to stay on that story until we see a resolution. >> that's great. can't wait to watch that. >> are you following my advice? >> my staff can hear this, by the way. >> i told her to stay at home, relax. >> i've done it a couple of times. >> pixar has swimming pools and volleyball courts. you got to be in the right mindset. do not come in here for your meeting. i'm talking to the staff. >> don't watch this, just this
part. >> it's not about you, it's about joy. >> coming up, our reaction to the interview of time geithner with larry kudlow. and calm down brian sullivan, boy, he's fired up. coming up next, speaking of freaks, the authors behind freakonomics are coming up. they want to teach you how to think like a freak. bill karins, what do you have for us? >> you can't say freak and lead into the weathercast, joe. >> we're into some freaky weather. it was only 66 degrees in san antonio, it was 92 in washington, d.c. and out west, an incredible heat wave on top of this historic drought. let's add in the santa ana winds and it's one of those days of
firefighters are going to be gearing up and be ready. it's a very dangerous day. winds could gust in the mountains up to 80 miles per hour. 80 miles per hour and 100 degrees. that's like having a hair dryer blower. record heat expect, 100 on thursday. they don't cool off in southern california until friday and especially the weekend. heavy rain and possibility of a few severe storms, maybe isolated tornado or two, it goes through pittsburgh, columbus, louisville, tupelo. if you have any problems at the airport, it will most likely be with the thunderstorms. how about los angeles, 101 today. early in the season for that. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ and you're younger than you
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need to do that they can't do. but what they can do is be relentlessly curious, and their brains are physiologically sharper. we're start to deteriorate at about 22 years old. we suggest people channel the inner child as best as they can. especially when you're trying to come up with good yquestions an creative solutions. >> give us an example how you can do that at work. >> think like a child? >> yes. >> kids don't know anything about the world and they have a lot of solutions. a lot of answers people come up with people think you're nuts but -- >> and also learn to say i don't
know. >> and as adults we tend to present a theory or possibility as a certain tear. >> put away your moral compass. >> we don't mean to say people shouldn't be moral. nobody wants to live in a world where people don't have a strong moral compass. but if you're trying to solve a problem and you walk in thinking you know what's the right thing to do and what's wrong, you will exclude a whole set of possibilities. put your moralali itit itit iti aside and you can come back to it later. >> also in the book -- >> i still think you can be an astronaut. >> i'd like to if we still had nasa. >> you're limiting yourself. >> he already looks like an astronaut. >> thank you very much.
>> could have been. >> you talk about don't be afraid to quit. a lot of people, once we get on a certain path, we don't want to trigger any type of failure in our lives because we get comfortable with being on a path. why do you try to get people to not think of that as a bad thing. >> quitting and failure are two different things. the worst failure is looking back at our life and doing the same thing and wondering why you do that. the people who quit are happier than the ones who don't. >> from freak to frank. you tell great stories. tell bus the hot dog eating contest and what lessons he teaches ees us. >> i love this story and this guy.
kobiachi, he wanted to solve the problem and he approached it totally differently. instead of doing what everybody else did, fasting, starving themselves, instead of thinking how can i eat more hot dogs, he thought how can i eat one faster? he broke the process down and the first time out doubled the world record. >> from like 25 to 50? >> it would be like usain bolt running the world record in like 4.5 seconds, somewhere between a taxi and a cheetah. >> we've heard about creative destruction, that does lie at the heart of it. like you said, you don't drive the car off the cliff. sometimes -- well, all of this is about getting out of your comfort zone and not doing what everybody expects you to do. >> absolutely. it's about thinking. it's about not just sleep walking through life but thinking about what you want to
do and taking control and doing it. >> so who is your favorite freak that you studied that put the big light bulb over your head? >> barry marshall was an australian medical young doctor who figured out what causes ulcers, okay? it doesn't sound like a big game he also figured out what causes stomach cancer. at the time ulcers were thought to be from stress and stomach issues. he went and found out it was about bacteria and solved stomach cancer by looking at a problem, asking questions, hey, what are those bacteria being here, was ostracized by the
medical community and finally was recognized and won the nobel peace prize. >> i know hough to eat a hot dog faster now. >> and you can go out for thai food to celebrate. >> let your freak flag fly high. >> you can read an excerpt on moj mojoe.com. coming up, your favorite internet stock is most likely collapsing. i told up not to invest in pets.com, you didn't listen to me. we're going to dig into it when we come back. ♪ ♪
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fell by 25% and it took a decade to get back to some measure of security for people. that's because we allowed as a country a financial panic to escalate and bring the system to collapse. and why does that happen? it's because the light's going out. it's like the power grid not functioning. if the economy can't get oxygen, just to mix some more metaphors, companies can borrow, then businesses fire people on a brutal scale and that produces those set of conditions. panic leads to crash. that's why those things are so damaging. and they have massive innocent victims in that context. >> how close were we? >> we were right at the edge. >> paulsen wrote he thought we were three days away from the atms not working. people were talking about burying gold in their back ya s yards. >> they cut out the part where
they explain that's exactly what mika is still doing, burying gold in her back yard, west chester, south of france, all over the place. >> that of course was tim geithner earlier. mike barnicle did not have a lot of nice things to say about elizabeth warren. >> i don't think he likes elizabeth warren. >> i don't know that he doesn't like her. but i think he clearly felt abused by her in the settle of setting her up for questioning, youtube moments rather than -- >> oh, i think he doesn't like her. >> okay. we're going to talk about that and much more. we're going to ask why too big to fail has got i don't know even bigger. brian sullivan is trying to recover from yesterday. larry kudlow, miles neddal, a cast of thousands will be with us when we return on "morning joe."
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can we just stop saying "the republican party." as someone who grew up in a conservative household, i don't recognize the republican party of even my youth. i don't like what i see. i don't like the far right, i don't like the extremism. they've pushed me away. as somebody who is pretty much not religious, right, pro same-sex marriage, pro legalization of marijuana for the most part, okay, what party is this? what party am i supposed to be in when i'm a fiscal conservative who believes that small government can often be better. there are times for larger government. so we keep saying "the republican party" and i love you guys and i love the show and i come on all the time but i don't know who the republican party is anymore. i don't know in the republican party knows -- it's not a party i can get on board with because
i don't like the small minded attitude, a lot of the right-wing stuff that comes out. >> well, come on down, come on down. >> give this guy a cup of decaf. >> a ticket to new hampshire. >> that was brian sullivan on our show yesterday. brian is back today. lexapro is doing a remarkable thing in his life for the past 24 hours, along with larry kudlow and miles nadal. brian sullivan, i hear not just republicans but a lot of conservative republicans that oppose obamacare, that oppose higher taxes, that oppose more regulations, that are larry kudlow and joe scarborough conservatives who say you know what, just keep the crazy at home, we want to actually win elections and change america for the better. so i don't know that you're -- i mean, i'm hearing this from the
most conservative, ideological people out there, which is just stop winning election. >> by the way, i want to thank everybody for the support. that was obviously unexpected and a little bit out of character. i appreciate everybody writing in. >> you didn't just win the academy award. >> it's like baseball. if the pirates bat .320 as a team but every team bats better and they keep losing, does l thr batting average really matter? the republicans have lost five out of six of the last popular elections? >> we've last five out of six elections. larry kudlow, people are doing some really, really stupid things. harry reid should be going to boxing matches in nevada in his
pajama and flip-flops. he should have been beaten. >> keep your eyes open. he's on the ropes. >> i think this is a year where the big tent philosophy is going to work pretty nicely. >> it worked last night in nebraska. tea party support. >> the republicans are going to have the upper hand on economic growth and obamacare. tease are very important issues. with all respect to brian, i am not in favor of legalizing pot, i never will be in favor, i don't think the republican party should be in favor of legalizing pot, but if a state wants to do it, let the state do, it don't get in the way. i would say the same thing regarding certain key social issues. if certain states want gay marriage, that's up to the state. >> but the national party, let's focus on getting america back to work, right? >> and you're going to see that,
is going to be the big theme. this is the worst economic recovery since world war ii, the job situation still remains very difficult and, frankly, obamacare is not only bad for the economy, it's going to be bad for health care and health care costs. my advice to the gop, big tent is number one and, two, keep your eye on the balls that really matter. >> steve rattner, every time on the house floor we started getting to social issues, the republican party would split, work, jobs, taxes, regulation, getting people back to work, we'd be united. this economy, a lot of unrest in the economy. unemployment numbers are going down. last quarter that we flatlined, maybe because of weather. but you have a great chart here talking about how we've got two americas. we've got the america on wall street that's setting records every day and we've got the america on main street that's been losing real wages since
1973. >> it's true. the stock market has been hitting new highs pretty much every day. it's up 32% last year, 3% this year. >> is there a bubble? >> is there a bubble? i'm sure people on this panel have an opinion about it. looking at the price-to-earnings ratio, how expensive is the stock market in this goes back to 1910 and uses a measure developed by robert shiller, an economist. and it's not as high as it was in 1929 and it's not as high as it was in 2000 and not quite as high as it was in 2007 but other than that, it is higher than it's been. does it mean the stock market can keep going up some more because of these irrational bits of exuberance? sure, it can. >> but your chart doesn't end
we're in a bubble now? >> it suggests stocks are on the expensive end but not in the bubble we've had before. >> explain what happened to internet stocks. >> look what's happened. twitter down 47%, groupon down 46%. some of that are questions that have questionable business models. i don't think many think groupon is the greatest business in the world, twitter when it went public, the valuation was crazy. the whole market is sort of rotating at the moment away from internet stocks. >> can i make one point? steve is right as far as this chart goes. this is a ten-year average of price-to-earnings multiples. now, bob shiller is a smart guy. i'm not here to put him down, this is not necessarily the best way to measure it. look at last year or this year
or a year ahead,or really around 15 times earnings and that's not bad. my advice, sometimes kudlow is right, sometimes kudlow is wrong, i wouldn't jump out of the market right now. >> housing and consumer spending. >> housing is stable temperature it -- stable. larry said trade at about 16 times earnings currently. and on that basis the s&p 500 could be 1950, 1975 next year. s&p earnings are supposed to be 117 this year, gross 6%. if you believe what lee cooperman says, which is stocks are the best house in a good neighborhood currently, they're fair live priced. they're not cheap in relation to what they've been historically
and they're not over live expensive. >> so why is main street still suffering and why is wall street doing so well? >> when you look at the unemployment rate that has declin declined, it's mostly because people have left the workforce. there's only about 150,000 job being created monthly. >> the answer is simple. why has main street suffered and wall street done so well? because wages have not increased, and what hasn't gone into wages has gone into corporate profits. workers are simply not sharing in this prosperity. >> the wage point is exactly right. it's exactly right. and i think that's because of the slow growth in the economy and i think that's because of poor economic policies. but i want to make a point, wall street versus main street. no, won't buy it. 50% of the households in this country own stocks. when you talk about main street, union people, cops, fire,
teachers are all in pension funds and the pension funds are doing very well because the stock market has done very well. in queens your cop is making $120,000 a year, your school teach ser making $120,000 a year, they're putting some money into pension funds and that money is being matched and then some. those pension funds have gone up a lot since the bottom in 2009. >> teachers make $120,000 a year? >> how much? >> did you say they make $120,000 a year? >> in this city? absolutely. look at the recent de blasio settlement, it's going to be more than that. >> how much is the market in unrest in ukraine and overseas? >> they don't seem worried at all. the bond yield has gone down. but to steven's point, the stock market continues to go up. perhaps we are the cleanest dirty shirt in a bag of laundry. do i want to push back a little on what steven said, incomes
have not gone up, that is well founded, well known, accurate. but let's not forget corporations have paid out this huge gain in money to health care over the last 20 years. any corporation will say we have given our employees a raise, it just hasn't been in their paycheck, it's been in benefits. if the president's health care plan works and does as advertised, if we can bend that down, corporations will then transfer some of those savings to workers' actual paychecks. >> that's a fair point. but the balance of the evidence is workers have not had much pay increase. to larry's point, sure. >> has some direct interest in the stock but the vast preponderance of the gains in this stock rally have gone to the famous 1%. >> i just don't think the evidence supports that. i'm not making this stuff up. half of the households in this
country either directly or indirectly through pension funds or 401(k)s and what have you own shares. >> the most important issue is about job creation. if the republican party focusses on that single issue about job creation throughout the entire economy, especially in small business, that is the critical issue. way to stimulate the economy and benefit main street is through job creation. >> and that's the gop message inside the big tent. if they stick to their knitting on that, they're going to do very well. >> all they need is a policy now. >> we'll find it. at least we have focus. that's what we need. thinking like a child, thinking like a freak. >> larry kudlow, good to have you all here. and harry reid on the koch brothers when we come back.
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think like a child. >> the veterans have to take a two-hour drive to find a psychiatrist in los angeles. >> and i learned the v.a. is doing a good job. i don't understand that. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." but stick around, here's chuck todd with "the daily rundown." if it's wednesday, it's victory lap day. will it be a tea party pulse in nebraska, a democratic deferral in west virginia and did book are feel a backlash in new jersey? also this morning, terrible tragedy overseas as hundreds are dead in a turkey coal mine collapse. we'll have an update on the rescue team still trying to save some trapped workers. and back here at home, the s didn't stand for station but some senators want to put harry truman's name on