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[ music playing ] >> that's rihanna. the song goes on the, say, baby, please come back, baby, it was me. we will get to one of her hit songs that young girls love. good morning, it's twens wednesday, september 17th. we have the chairman of deutsche, incorporated, donny deutsche and columbia university school of public affairs dorian warren is back. in washington where there is a lot going on, we have reporter for the new york time jeremy peters with us covering capitol hill. we have so much going on. we'll start in washington just to give you a sense of water going on there. developing news in washington, concerning america's war on isis. for weeks, president obama has claimed he won't be deploying ground troops in iraq. we all heard that, right? yesterday the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff testified it could be a possibility. now the white house is trying to clarify that. we will get every angle of this, this hour just ahead, but we want to start with news from the nfl and why we may be witnessing a turning point in our society. we can only hope something definitely is happening. first the latest. star running back adrian peterson is being told to stay away from the minnesota vikings, while facing child abuse. he is accused of spanking his 4-year-old son with a wooden switch. they kept peterson off the field and announced he would be reinstated. that changed after the team and league came under heavy criticism. the state's governor mark dayton released a statement calling for peterson's suspension. he wrote, in part, this, it's an awful situation, yes, mr. peterson is entitled to do you process and should be "innocent until proven guilty," however, he is a public figure, and his actions, as described, are a public embarrassment to mens mince strikes and we will have more ob that. sponsors are beginning to make clear statements about how they at least feel about this and they're asking for at least some sort of explain stiegs what is being done. >> the headline this morning is the vikings have reversed field. adrian peterson has to stay away from the team until this situation legally is resolved. he was put on the, water kaushlgsd i haven't herd before the exception exemption rule t. vikings can't keep him away from the team. clearly under the pressure you described i describe, the minnesota vikings and the league said they have to find a way to get him off the field, we don't throw him off the team else inially, we keep him away from football until this plays itself out. it could be a long time. by the way go donny deutsche, right call or does it look like they are scrambling? >> here's the turning point that happened yesterday a. company out of toulous budweiser spoke up finally, it spends a billion or two on nfl. it was not dramatic. it was right. it says we cannot be behind this. this is unacceptable. pepsi, which spend $100 million. i said this yesterday. this is where the action stops. this is where the zpom inos starts to fall. this is what happens to every ceo, letters show up on their desk. i annual not going to provide wour toilet paper anymore, i will not drink your beers. they turn to the ceos, the corporate people. we node to do something about this. this is what is going to change today, starting at 2:00 oom am this morning when the first press release came out. this is when the fuse starts to change. >> i think so. there will be news every hour on this. we will get to a complete look at exactly who the sponsors are, along with willie and me and what's in here. just how this paper is covering the nfl and this controversy is a way to look at it as well. you just wonder, is this a moment or is it not? are the fans still going to go? is this all going to go away? i'm not sure. >> i want to say, a couple months ago, michael sam, everyone said, not everyone, culture players will be a distraction, right. the first only gay player, what's a distraction now? >> this is a distraction. here's the other big controversy involving a star player. running back ray rice is appealing his indefinite suspension. the league's player's association, in a statement, the union write, in part, supporting facts reveal a lack of a fair and impartial process, including the role of the in addition i commissioner. commissioner roger goodell handed rice org untilly a two-game suspension for assaults his wife t. league then increased the penalty after another video showed the extent of the violence or confirm it. players cannot be punished twice for the same action. rice, dropped by the baltimore ravens has been accepted into a rehab program and can apply to be reinstated by the league at the discretion of the front office. the nfl is a billion dollar business and the companies that help foot the bill are clearly worried about what's happening. we covered this yesterday, it was radisson hotel, which earlier pulled the sponsorship of the minnesota vikings now. another huge name is raising its concerns, beer giant anheuser-busch. we are disappointed and encryingly concerned about the recent incidents that have overshadowed this nfl season. we are not yet satisfied with the leak's handling of the behaviors that so clearly go against our own company and moral code. >> god just spoke. >> visa, who is this, visa says domestic violence in any form is unacceptable. it has for the place in the nfl or our society more broadly. our expectation remains all of visas partners remain high ethical standards and operate with full transparency. go ahead, willie. >> i want to say to your point and donny's point, budweiser, $1.2 billion bore sponsor puts the heat on the nfl. last call bud. >> follow the money. >> that's what i have been tweeting. there is a lot of sponsors making comments. >> now the ones that don't, so it's a domino effect. >> here it comes, there's more. several sponsors spoke out against domestic violence, reiterating their support for the lead, bridgestone, fedex, verizon, taking a wait and see approach. fike stores in the twin cities have pulled peterson's jerseys from the shelves. the runningback is an atmosphere light. his product remains for purchase. they can pull it if they want. >> none of the sponsors are leaving the nfl. they have no choice. there is very few ways to get eyeballs of men, sports on television is about the only way. they're not going anywhere. having said that tow, they can certainly wield their bats to change the math. >> are you surprised, donny, as a brand guy, that the nfl didn't act more quickly and decisively. i said this last week. i said they're protecting them to protect the shield. this is not protecting the shield. this is destroying your brand. i hate to say it one or two players are disposable in the nfl at the expense of your brand. >> this is the tip of what's been an iceberg that's been freezing for a long time. whether it's punching out a pregnant women. whether it's aaron hernandez allegedly killing people. >> item number 56. >> to me, i'm not going to give these companies applause right now. let remember we watched the guy track her out of an el vamplt it was clear what happened. >> we watched. nothing happened. >> the companies do have the power. you will see it foul. i will give them a one-handed applause, to your point, where were they six weeks ago, 8g weeks ago? >> there are so many facets to this. you got the players, the nfl the sponsors and the nfl working on such a moosive financial scale you can't get your arms around the numbers. you got the fans who love their teams and they love their teams. you got the tv networks who have a stake in this. you have the sports page was have a stake in this. there is one article in here about the nfl. there is about ten others page after page after page about the teams. >> here's where i have to fault the owners and the nfl, they could have tossed every one of these players as it happened and not one viewer is going. so it was only time. same thing with goodell. nobody was going to point a finger atful he suspended a guy for a year. there was no downside morally, commercially, so it tons me from a both moral and a dollars point of view where they would not have taken a harder stance. >> i think society we are shocked we are here, that we when you are coordinating a football event, you book rihanna and you don't even think. i wouldn't have thought about it. i wouldn't v. so let's get to that part of the story. that brings us to the situation of cbs sports and pop sing erie hannah what may or may not be connected to her own past which is domestic abuse. in 2009, the seven time grammy winner was assaulted by boyfriend chris brown inside the lamborghini. the image of her injuries were online and seen everywhere especially by her fans and there are millions around the world that believe on twitter, she has 37 million followers. >> like willie. >> exactly. >> brown pled guilty to a felony assault and avoided prison time. he received five years probation and the two entertainers were ordered to stay away from each other. three weeks after the assault, they reunited in miami. they have since split up. during an interview with abc, rihanna discussed the assault and her decision to go back to her abuseers. >> i realized that my selfish decision for love could result into some young girl getting killed. i could not be easy with that part i couldn't be held responsible for telling them, go back. christians, even if chris never hit me again, who's to say that their boyfriend won't? i just didn't realize how much of an impact i had on these girls' lives until that happened, until that happened, it was a wake-up call for me, big time. >> so since then, a lot of her songs have not reflected those combhents in a video with eminem rihanna speaks about an abusive relationship. just going to stand there and watch me burn? well, that's all right because i like the way it hurts. now cbs has abandoned its plan to use a different rihanna song run this town as part of its open for nfl football. that song contains the lyrics, hear the screams from every, where i'm addicted to the thrill. it's a dangerous love affair. it goes on. last week, after the ray rice controversy hit, cbs dropped a song with the chairman of the sports division saying, in part, we to the journalistically and from a tone standpoint, we needed to have the appropriate tone and coverage. >> rihanna wrote back, cbs, you pulled my song this week, now you want to slide it back in this thursday? no, f you, she added quote audacity. >> cbs sports pulled the song for the rest of the season saying we will be moving in a different direction with some elements of our thursday night football open. we will be using our fewly created thursday night football theme music to open our game broadcast. i can't believe i have something in common which are hasnrihanna sean mcmanus saying we have moved on. >> i actually agree which are hannah, why should she be penalized for being a survivor? chris brown's career is doing just fine. he hasn't been penalized economically in the same way. why are women often the ones that have to suffer the consequences economically? >> i agree with you. >> i actually disagree, by the way, i'm not saying she deserves to be penalized, but if you are cbs the reality is you are covering football. >> don't invite ler in the first place. >> once again, the new world changed in the past weeks. it's a commercial reality. they were saying the horrific picture we just saw there, they were setting themselves up for people to be thai saying is this the face of nfl football? they actually had no choice. it's a sad commentary. i would have done the same thing. the big point of view is why are we running lyrics like that in the first place? >> why are we booking? i like the decisions that cbs, i think they're doing what they have to do. i think we all are police it with why that booking seemed okay. it was okay to all of us. to your point if i could just argue, if she did that interview and she went on a campaign to help people understand domestic violence, to help people understand why they shouldn't go back, why it's so hard not to and she didn't sing songs that say she likes the way it hurts, i would agree with you. >> yes, but it's the most violent professional sport we have. >> my car, we watch every sunday. >> i want to call my good people at "the view." i love rosie and onepy. i was stunned how two days ago, rosie was saying i like chris brown's music, i will continue to listen to his music. even rosie, they were not outraged. they were like well explaining and i think the women have to get more outrage. these are victims in crimes f. the victims will not say yes. >> they cannot go back. we have to, too. when you have a platform like "the view" or like "morning joe" or like the "today" show, we have to take a stand even if it hurts our sponsorships, forget it. take a frisking stand. do what cs says, you are done. we ent don't want to equivocate on domestic violence. i wouldn't have equivocated an their statement saying we are going in a different direction. >> no, domestic violence. we don't support it. we don't want anything to do with it. >> i'm convinced. i think there is a double standard for male artists and female artists. >> erie hannah, let's remember, was a victim a. victim of abuse, when she sings those songs, these not endorsing that lifestyle, sometimes people ty sing about the way they were or felt in a different moment in time. so i don't think cbs putting rihanna on a pre-game show was an endorsement of her viewpoint. >> but it would have surfaced it. >> right. >> but i think we have to be careful walking the line. she a victim. rihanna is a victim. >> i know she's a victim. >> but her responsibility as a public person. >> yes. >> she's come out and talked about domestic abuse. >> a woman is singing the song. you can call it art or an expression of a different time. i think it's eminem if she tries to f-ing leave again, i'm attired to set the bed on fire, i'm just going rihanna said i'm going to stand there and watch me burn because that's all right. i loo tick way it hurts. well, there is some art i think if you know who you are appealing to, that's young, my girls listen to rihanna. >> my 11-year-old loves her. i just want to say i have the same standards around eminem and chris brown as which are hannah. i want to have the same standard because those men don't get penalized for the same lyrics. >> by the way. >> i'm not saying that excuses rihanna. >> it's a bad message. >> in terms of chris brown, we should be criticizing them as well. >> you want to go into language, snoop, all the songs, that's a whole other discussion look, you know, we haven't talked much about peter zorub either and -- >> we're going to get there. there is so much. >> and bloody scrotums and on and on and on. i do think it's a moment in time. i think the advertisers have spoken. the players will only understand one ting, if they don't get to play. that's i. they're not going to understand penalized for two games. you take away anybody's livelihood, people pay attention. that's what's got to happen. actor vigo mortonsen will be here. senator claire mccaskill in an op-ed, she wrote and sent it to me, i think she ruffled a lot of feathers. she will tell us the story live in our 8:00 hour with brand marketing inno straighter steve stout. up federal government, a dramatic robbery on video. plus a new study ranks the nations with the best well being. is it the u.s.? >> it's got to be sweden. >> okay. apparently, we're not near the top. apparently, we're actually very far down the list. first. bill kierans has a check on the forecast. >> hi, meika. yesterday, we talked about the people stranded in the cabo san lucas area t. military is taking them out by helicopter and airplane. this is how people are ending their vacations. the only people coming in and out is the military. they're taking them to tijuana, mexico. imagine that, that's the end of your vacation. the problems are just starting in the desert southwest t. heavy rains have now moved into arizona and soon will be all through new mexico. that's where the heart of the flooding will be. this is the second time in ten days this area lab hit by a tropical system. that's never happened in our recorded human history. potentially three to six inches of rain, life-threatening rain from albuquerque to phoenix, tucson, flack staff and possibly as far north as las vegas. the rain is already falling. the rest of the country isn't too bad. all the problems we will associate with this tropical system will be isolated. you are watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. you can eat that on weight watchers? 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>> we have denmark, and brazil. >> i can't believe sweden. it's 8th. >> united state ranks 12ings right behind trinidad and tobego. the baltimore sun the orioles beat the blue jays. listen to this song [ music playing ] ♪ magic, magic, magic ♪ >> did you see, he opened his show danceing and sing tag song? >> a little back story on the song. >> it's way too early these days. >> are those jazz hands? >> it's a very different show. it's a good show. >> you know, i'm done, mcmanus says, we are going in a different direction. he says it so swiftly. >> this was a song they produced back in the ''80s. listen to this thing. >> my daughter is excited, actually. she wants to go to a game with you. >> you won one. so, the blue jays 8-2. the first baseman steps on the bag, they celebrate their first a. l. east title until 1997. confetti flies over camden yards, the fireworks, check out the baltimore outfielder sharon jones, if only i could be so lucky to get a pie in the face. >> oh, i got a friend in baltimore, jim hance. he can take us to the game. >> we can make this video. >> there is a video? >> that's in all the papers. >> the washington post in atlanta, speaking of baseball. the national city, 3-0. how about this d.c., baltimore, it's all hang, washington wraps up its second nl east title in the last three years. that's a little celebrating on the feel. they take it back to the clubhouse, they drench each other in beer and champagne. that's what you do when you win the division title. >> is billy ripkin in the video? >> billy. he might have been. >> that's still okay. let go. >> a motorcycle rider from russia lucky to be alive after a shocking accident. caught on tape in this dash cam footage of cars seen approaching a traffic light t. cars prepare to go across, riding, he flips off the bike and lands in the middle of the two cars and prevents him from being run over. prevents him from being run over, survives on the hood and survives the accident. >> okay. there's a look at the paper itself. that was very diverse. >> was that in a newspaper? >> that's not papers, that's cellatious video that makes people watch. >> coming up, we will dive deep in the hearing on capitol hill the fight against isis the huge story, for tim kaine is our news maker guest. we are hearing the term boots on the ground. first the beltway blame game. why frank rooney says it's time to stop pointing the finger at the bush administration t. must read opinion pages. we'll be back on "morning joe." tigers, both of you. tigers? 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i hear so much about bush's failings and bush's sins that you'd think he were still huddled over desk in washington. it isn't exactly reason for a parade. not being as bad as someone else is hardly the same as being good and then to the point that we heard on capitol hill yesterday the new york times, itself the slippery slope begins, there is no way to read this other than as a reversal from the firm commitment that mr. obama made not to immaniers the country in another endless ground war, even though general dempsey's remarks were conditional, the obama administration opened the door to diner more costly involvement even before the strategy is fully sketched out. what do you go, richard? >> two things. one is relitigating the first decade of the century is interesting to political types. it certainly plays, it's understandable in terms of the white house wanting to explain why they're in situations that they're in. it's not particularly savthto satisfactory as a leadership. we are six years in. president obama sought the office twice. trying to push forward it seems to me is the most effective thing. blaming combush is a matter for history to work it out. >> politically. here we are. so this was a very quick about face. it was one week ago today, if today is wednesday, it is wednesday the president came out and talked about there won't be troops on the ground. six days later, general devoncy says there might be boots on the ground. as the "time's" points out, this is the slippery slope. >> as i said last week, we need congress to ask the right questions of the president and the administration one about the authorization to go to war. two, what the strategy is. three how much it will cost. we've spent already close to 5 trillion or more in iraq andiastic afghanistan. we should be learning the lessons. >> and moving forward. i think hammering often the bush administration at this point sounds kind of tin. still ahead, jane harmon will debate whether boots on the ground are, indeed, necessary to defeat isis. plus, senator tim kaine on the matter, more "morning joe." next. sweets become salaries. an oven heats up a community la cocina, a small kitchen that kick-starts the careers of 41 entrepreneurs. they bring the talent. we help fund the tools. it's a small way we help that's been huge for the community. little by little we can do a lot. because... small is huge. visit www.wellsfargo.com to see how big small can be. no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies, and never any by-products or fillers. wow! being a cat just got more enjoyabowl. fancy feast broths. wow served daily. [ music playing ] >> senator obama made the same point very clearly in 2007, the president does not have power under the constitution to eun lat i rally authorize a military attack to stopping an actual ongoing or imminent threat against the nation. i understood the president's comments last week and other comments to suggest that isil is a significant threat, a serious threat, a growing threat. in terms of an imminent threat to attack the united states that would trig ter article ii defense powers, it does not seem to suggest at this point. >> the virginia democrat serves on both the armed services and foreign relations committees. he joins us now from capitol hill. tim good to have you on board. >> good to be here. >> you where in the new york time's the president as head of our armed forces, must defend the nation, when it shifts from defense to offense, it's approval. what would change that equation? >> look. if there was credible evidence that isil had plans to attack the united states or there was a imminent threat against the u.s. embassy, the president can always act to defend the nation or defend american personnel. but right now even the head of the national counterterrorists center said there is no credible intel suggesting isil attacks on the u.s. that's where it's so important and i believe constitutionally mandatory the president get the blessings of congress. >> how much support for your position is there on capitol hill? >> well, it's been a little challenging, mica. i tell you. a number of folks think the president might have the power so there are some debates about it. other folks are concerned about timing and all of that. but i will say this last week, after the president spoke, the head of the foreign relations committee, senator menen dez says, okay, i heard the president talk about this mission. it's not limited. it's long term in nature. congress is authorized. i might like it a little sooner than we're going to have it, but at least it's a question of now when will we have it not whether and we have to weighing? >> i want to ask you about what general martin devoncy sa demps said we may have boots on the ground. is the white house equivocateing on a fundamental thing to this nation? >> two things. i was at that same hearing. i heard that same testimony. what general dempsey is saying i am the military guys, i maim i make recommendations, i don't dictate policy. ly always keep open the ability to make recommendations, but the president sets the policy. mica, that's one reason why today i am introducing a draft authorization for use of military force that supports the four-point mission the president outlined last week, that includes four critical limitations, no boots on the ground, a sunset within a year, to examine the mission. an appeal of the 2002 iraq authorization still floating out around there, a pharaoh definition of associated forces. if we're going after isil we shouldn't say we can go after everybody that talked to isil. >> i want to bring in jeremy perters into this conversation. i don't understand why strategically you would make the commitment jeremy to put no boots on the ground or other conditions. is it political that this promise needs to be made or what do you think goes behind actually setting preconditions to something we can't predict the outcome of? >> i think you hit it on the head why this resolution is running into so much trouble on capitol hill. on the one hand, have you team e people who are war wary and are saying we see this going towards groups on the ground. it's inevitable. on the other hand, have you more hawkish republicans saying, of course, there are going to be boots on the ground. that's exactly what we want. right now the president is ruling that out. so why would we support this? you have this unusual alignment between hawkish republicans and more dovish democrats. it's really complicated things. >> senator, i don't know how that promise can be made. >> first, it's what the president said last wednesday night. we not have boots on the ground. there is precedent for that in earlier authorizations. but second, in the description of the mission that general dempsey and secretary hagel were doing yesterday. they indicated the can't be the u.s. fight against isil. this has to be a region that's willing to police itself. because we can't police a region that won't. so supporting ground troops of other nations, whether it's the kurd itself, or syrian moderates is important to show the region is policing itself. we're a partner. we're not carrying it on our shoulders. if we do it all, we won't accomplish the mission of destroying isil. >> senator cane, always good to see you. >> coming up, dan senor and jane harman have different takes on iraq and syria. plus, as the controversies mount, everything changes for the nfl and maybe the rest of the society. we can only hope. we'll take a look at how the nation responding to the breaking developments overnight. then pop music and high school announcements collide on "the tonight p tonight show." music is still ahead. we'll be right back. tonight sh" music is still ahead. we'll be right back. tonight sho" music is still ahead. we'll be right back. onight show" music is still ahead. we'll be right back. night show." music is still ahead. we'll be right back. ight show." music is still ahead. we'll be right back. ght show." music is still ahead. we'll be right back. ht show." music is still ahead. we'll be right back. t show." music is still ahead. we'll be right back. show." music is still ahead. we'll be right back. show." music is still ahead. we'll be right back. 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>> not always. not always. but in this particular case i do. i think it's inevitable regardless of what the president has been saying that there will be eventually troops on the ground for the following reason. jane and i probably agree that given the population dense areas where our air operations have to be conducted right now are such that we will need on the ground intelligence. if which don't have on the ground intelligent, we will be bombing indiscriminately and scores of incidents will be killed by us. >> we have to cross other countries to get that? >> yes, we can. >> who, jane, let's talk specifically about who you trust to be on the ground providing intelligence to american air operations and who, by the way, you would also trust when isis seeks retribution against iraqis working with us? who are those iraqis going to trust to protect them? during the surge it was us, u.s. forces that protected sunnis willing to cooperate with us. >> jane. >> i understand, dan, i'm saying the countries under threat are muslims in the region. who would i trust? i would trust uae. i would trust saudi arabia. i would trust certainly jordan. there are countries in the region under direct threat from isil who happen to be muslim. isil is anti--muslim. let's get that. more than anti-western. i would trust them on the ground. john allen is an inspired choice to lead this coalition. that's what his mission is i understand why dempsey said what he said yesterday. military officers are supposed to speak truth to power. what he said is speculative. if the mission needs it, then he'll recommend it. but i think our policy should be a coalition of not american bother on the ground. >> i think the saudis can play, make an important contribution. they have agreed train thousands of moderate opposition forces in syria. i think that's important. but the moment we have emaradi troops, gosh, turkish troops i can imagine on the ground in iraq, we'll have a hel of a time organizeing them, integrating them into the small unit of the iraqi army which is highly sectarianized. most importantly, how is iran going to respond? 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job at the time and i kept in this relationship and i've done a lot of thinking ability why and i think part of it was fear. i was scared of him and scared if i tried to leave something worse could happen to me. part of it was guilt because every time we'd have a fight he would then start crying and promise i won't do it again and i felt like i contributed somehow to this. then there was the night that i shared an apartment and he threw me into a shower naked in scalding water and then he threw me outside into the hallway. we lived in an apartment building and i hid in a stairwell for two hours until he came again crying and said i promise i won't do this again and i continued to stay in that relationship until i was offered a job in another state and that's where i felt i have the ability to get away. so when people talk about domestic violence, it is really, really a complicated issue. >> wow. wow. >> that's really important she told that story. >> so people understand, it's educated people. it's white people it's sophisticated people it can happen to. this is not a problem that's limited to one demographic or one age group or one part of the country. she's amazing. and you know to and se didn't go into detail about the psychology and the relationship and why she stayed other than fear and you just hear that story. because she's just an incredible woman, of such strength and passion. >> joining us now the editor-in-chief of "essence" magazine, thank you for joaning the table for this conversation. i was looking you up. the bottom line is you are responsible for the vision of what is the brand at the magazine for black women. so i'm really interested in your insights, especially on some of the angles that have bubbled up over the past 24 hours. let's get the latest developments, though, first in the nfl story. star running back adrian peterson is told to stay away from the minnesota vikings, while facing child abuse. the pro bowler is accused of spanking his son with a wooden switch. they kept him off the field for sunday's game. they announced on monday, he would be reinstated that changeled early this morning after the team and league came under heavy criminal. the state's governor, mark dayton released a statement yesterday calling for peterson's suspension. he wrote in part this, it's an awful situation, yes, mr. peterson is entitled to due process and should be innocent until proven guilty. however, she a public figure and his actions, as described, are a public embarrassment to the vikings and the state of minnesota. the league is coming under mounting criticism from its sponsors. we have a lot more on that in just a moment. van fess sa. in terms of how long this has played out, what do you think the message has been so far from all sides of there, the nfl, the sponsors, ten ultimately to the readtaries you appeal to? >> well, i mean, i think what's fascinating to me is this whole conversation is around domestic abuse, right. >> matt: we're not really hearing a lot of women's voices, it's almost as if they are silent. we did hear from meredith viera to thankfully come out and share her experience, i am thinking ability the whole rihanna controversy and the fact that they pulled her song. when you think about the fact that she was a victim of domestic abuse as well, wouldn't it have been interesting if they had engaged her beforehand, not yanked the song, but engaged her in the conversation beforeland and asking her, is this the opportunity that you want to use your platform to talk about domestic abuse? is this an opportunity for you to really come forward with your personal story in a way that will affect millions and millions of women? >> really. >> that would have been -- more powerful. >> phenomenal. >> of course the nfl were not going to take the launch of tear cbs thursday night franchise and make it about this. >> wait a minute. that's exactly what they have been doing. all o of their competenttators are coming out, making men, most of them, emotional pleas against, am i wrong? on national television? >> they took the first 25 minute of the broadcast and it was only about that. you are talking about james brown. >> who would make you think differently? >> the first 25 minutes they spoke with goodell, right, what if they had that conversation with the woman? >> let's take each one of these women i'm not sitting in judgment. in the case of ray rice's then fiancee, now wife. we know at the time she took him back and said leave us alone. we hear time and time and time again and rihanna another example, it's got to start with the women. you know, for us, white guys to sit on the sideline or us guys to sit on the sideline and say there is horrific. what's wrong with this? if the victims are going to make themselves victimless at the end of the day and stay nit and not stand up, it's not going to change. so it can't just be the media people. it can't just be the league. it can't just be the sponsors. it can't be the pundits. it's the women, i know it's uneasy for me to say. i i don't have financial independence, so on, so forth, at the end of the day, you can applaud rihanna, if she comes out with songs and still is not going to be a spokesperson, it's hard for anybody else to align up. >> i totally agree. ultimately, you can't look at her abc interview and have her talk about how she left and she can never be with him again. she sings "i like the way it hurts." if she wanted to make it a moment and stand with the nfl and with cbs and say i'm not going to sing ability this anymore him i'm not going to make it cool anymore. it's not and this is the moment we all feed to come together and cut this out. >> that would have been amazing. >> that would have been amazing. i'm just wondering if it was ever considered. the way it was handled. she is victimized yet again because they're assuming that the, you know, experience that she had the music that she's making makes her incapable of making another leap into a totally different conversation. >> i tell you somebody i know him personally he's a fantastic guy, a guy like jay-z can make a difference here, he bridges music and sports who everybody looks up to, every demographic and who can basically send out a signal to the hip-hop community, guys with egot to start with this. we got to fix this. this is where moments where guys like that, i'm not challenging him. he has never been accused of anything, she a delightful man, these are the kind of people that have to step up. >> let's get the latest from ray rice. willie has all of what's happening with the sponsors, which i think might be the biggest shift potentially coming in this story. ray rice is now appealing his indefinite suspension by the nfl. the leak's association is demanding the punishment be overturned. supports facts reveal a lack of a fair and impartial process, including the role of the office of the commissioner. commissioner roger goodell initially handed ray rice two game suspension and the leak increased the penalty after another video confirm the extent of the violence that we already saw. the union says, players cannot be punished twice for the same action. rice who was dropped by the baltimore ravens has been accepted into a rehab program and can apply to be reinstated by the league at the discretion of the front office but the front office, willie, i think is beginning to feel the heat. >> absolutely. let's talk about money t.nfl is a multi-billion dollar business. the companies that foot the bill are clearly worried of what they've watched over the last couple of weeks. radisson hotels, which earlier pulled its sponsorship of the minnesota vikings on a local level. now another huge name raising its concerns. the beer giant anheuser-busch says we are disappointed and increasingly concerned over the incidents that overshadowed this season. we are not yet satisfied with the league's handling of behaviors that so clearly go against our company culture and moral code. that's anheuser-busch. visa says, domestic violence in en any form is unacceptable. our expectation remains that all of visa's partners, including the nfl, maintain high ethical standards. several sponsors spoke out against violence reiterating their support for the lead, bridgestone, fedex and verizon are taking a wait and see approach on this according to a.p., nike stores in the twin cities in minneapolis, st. paul have pulled adrian peterson's jerseys from the shelves a. company spokesperson said the running back quote remains a nike athlete. his product continues to be available for purchase. donny, i'll give you a couple numbers, $1.2 billion over six lesion over six years, that's how much anheuser-busch deal is worth to the leak. in advertising, anheuser-busch spent $185.3 million last season alone with the nfl. >> i tell you what will change, if you thattic the top 20 sponsors and we named two of them. 20 individuals, sponsors are companies, companies are run by individuals. if those 20 ceos got together, this would be great for our nation and their brand and said, you know what, it stops now. we want to understand that there is going to be a new type of punitive system set up where this is going to stop or we are not going to partner with you anymore. if the coca-colas and anheuser bushes and federal expresses, individuals, companies are run by people. those people say, you know what, we love football. we love this country. when want to protect women and we want to protect children and we have the power to change it, more than anything, more than you, more than me, more than you, more than president obama. those 20 individuals somewhere the power to make this change and not in the soap box kind of way, but in a real way and say, we want to protect the women in this country. we want to protect the moral fiber of this country and we collectively have tens of billions of dollars. withoutous, there is for the revenue sharing. there is no cbs football. there is no monday night football. we can make the change. i call out those 20 ceos. >> what fascinates me are the numbers we are focusing on is number of billions of dollars. what about the numbers of one in four victim i women impacted by domestic abuse. >> that's is sad truth. we got to fix that. >> when the money starts to get in the way. when the money starts to be affected. that's when people pay attention. >> that's right. >> that is what is outrageous. >> that's the deal. i'm going to read a couple tweets. vanessa, i'd like to you comment. i am being accused on twitter of not understanding them fully. so i don't know if you can help me out. the first one here just struck my eye. i'm dying. i think i'm dying. i agree with donny deutsche. there you go. >> that's got to be somebody from some -- how about the music industry. they're all culpable. that's from dennee thomas. sally albright. how do your daughter's interpret in it would be interesting to hear. my daughters do listen to rihanna and have listened to her. i heard the song loudly driving full of kid. am i misinterpreting that it seems, it's cool, it's hot to get beat up and to hurt. >> well, there certainly is artistic license. i know you talked ability that earlier in the show. that's one thing. also, let's think about this song came out four or five years ago. she was in a different place then. maybe she's in a different place now. i don't think we're allowing people the opportunity to evolve. it's assumeing that -- >> you know what, am i not seeing that evolution in this latest development in i would love to see her, if there is an evolution, unfortunately, take the stand with the power she has, 37 million followers on twitter. young girls all around the world. >> i absolutely agree. i think that what she was trying to do by saying she objected to the way it was handled. the way that her song was snatched. i think she is trying to let people know she wasn't invited into the conversation. that is my opinion. >> we are running out of time. why doesn't she write a song for the more, no more, if he does it kick him in the nuts an run out the door. they have the power to do that. >> are you writing that? >> that's out of my head. the women and sponsors together. >> i would love to, i know, she may not want to. she has wanted to share other aspects-ore life that were extremely artful and her art respects under healthy relationships. whether she was given an opportunity to work on this with nfl and cbs. >> clearly, she was not. >> it sounds like she was blindsided. i don't know. ly have to ask. >> as vanessa eluded to, i don't view those lyrics as an endorsement. i view her singing ability a person in that kind of relationship and explaining why they stay and what happens. i don't think she's saying i went through this with chris brown, i kind of like it, i'm proud of it. i think she is pla singing ability a place she was close to. >> the nfl can't be proud of that. >> meredith viera was saying earlier, you are going through a lot of deep emotional and psychological trauma and working through that is something that you may not necessarily want to do in the public eye. >> that's true. >> so where make it even harder for women to even say that they're in this kind of a relationship when you see how it played out. it hasn't played out the last couple of weeks. the woman is, ray rice's wife is attacked on twitter for you know attacked by other people in media. so what is the motivation? what is in it -- >> people of rape come forward. the victim continues to be a victim. >> isn't it then kind of uns understood to us, to sponsors and fans. especially fans wearing women, wearing ray rice jer -- what do you make of that? what is that? >> i can't even. it is beyond my understanding of embracing, embracing someone, violence against women is wrong period. violence against children is wrong. it's wrong. we have a real problem in this country with it. no one is talking about. we're talking about the fact that the phone was pulled, endorsements are pulled. we are not talking about what these women go through. >> from our culture. >> in our culture. >> it's weirdly celebrated. 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it's a lot for the american people to digest right now in terms of the vote coming out about authorization of force. i hear my colleagues and the concerns they are expressing. all of those share those. we have no good options. i'm anxious to hear what john kerry has to say before our committee today. i'm inclined to support the president's plan. >> what do you know about the syrian army that we're hoping to be able to prop up this work for us? is there anything that makes you feel confident that this could work? >> well, this is going to be a tough job. i mean, obviously, it's been revealed that we already having as in that regard trying to prep some fighters. this will expand that effort. like i said, there are no good options. this is going to be a long haul. it's going to be a tough thing. but i don't know that it's not our best option out there right now. so i'm inclined to support it. >> john meacham. >> senator, where do you stand on what appears to be not a difference of opinion, at least a difference in terms of discussing options between general dempsey and the white house? >> i think anybody who has studied this situation in any depth realizes you can't take boots on the ground or ground forces off the table and i think general dempsey was simply expressing that. so i mean the president may not want to admit it publicly, but obviously they've considered and that that is an option and we may likely get to that. so i don't think it is any surprise to anybody who has been following this situation? we had a conversation earlier with jane harman and dan sen interestor, jane harman said there cob boots on the ground just not ours, dan sen interestinteresor, if it's not our boots on the ground? >> we have to some extent some boots on the ground already. they just aren't on the front lines and whether there are other coalition partners that are willing to put boots closer to the front line is another matter. i think they have to be assured we will being them up and most of all,itative got to be assured that they've got to be assured we are in this to win this and the signals said over the past couple of years have not been good in that regard some it's going to be more difficult to put together a coalition that will actually fight than it would have been a couple years ago. >> all right. senator jeff flake. thank you so much. we look forward to hearing what happens later today. still ahead, she has her sights on climbing one of the highest money tain, it's nearly an impossible feat, the sister of our own peter sal alexander, she joins with us her incredible story. up next as wall street soars, are millennials left behind and what are they not doing? the washington post will explain next all that and more when "morning joe." 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>> that's a funny scene. the scene from the romantic comedy "failure to launch." still at home. >> you didn't understand him. we do now. he's quite crazy in a good way. anyone here still living at home? no. >> define home. >> i live in my own home. a brand-new column looks at the reason why more and more millennials are not moving out. how they are missing out on many of life's milestones, joining us the author. good to havef to have you. already so many things they are not doing. >> yes, there are many milestones my generation are missing out as with previous cohorts. we are getting married less fwreektly compared to people ten years ago, 15 years ago. millennials it's a fuzzy term generally speaking it's shorthand 18 to 45, 18 to 39 people in their 20s. there is no hard and fast cutoff. >> a third are living with the parents right now. >> that's only a quarter are married, in that same age range 18 to 35-ish were married in 2000. so we're definitely having somewhat -- >> they're not getting jo bs. >> not getting jobs. unemployment rates are very high. >> not getting married, not getting homes, not getting jobs. obviously, we know the answer here. this isn't a moral societal shift. this is the economy. >> right. as a somewhat i don't know i'm a millenia again-y er yes, guess i call into that age range, i hear my generation as being lazy, sort of loose when it comes to family values, morally adrift. there are all sorts of slurs you can hurl at us and they are often attributed to the fact that we don't care about settling down. we don't want to work. we don't want to have a ohio we don't want things a part of the american dream for generation past, if you look at survey data, that's absolutely not true t. vast majority say they are either married or those who are not married say they want to be married, only like in the single digit itself and percentage terms do you see that people never want to get married. >> has this been up on my smarten phone, i see this starting with even careers. you have so many young people who think i will start an act. i will be able to do it from my home. >> i think that's a very small share of my generation. they get a lot of press. >> i also see what i learn helplessness, they read in the maine papers, when i was 24, it was unacceptable to have a job. today. >> i think those kind of accusations are made against every youth that enters the lego market. oh, they don't want to work. it's not stigmatizeing. >> they accept it. i always say to young people, there are jobs. it may not be the one you want or are qualified. if we line up ten people. you showed me the most aggressive to the least aggressive. >> that most aggressive will somehow find a job. so it's harder, it's more difficult. i almost sound like a grumpy old man. we all see it. tenacious kids, they can make it happen for themselves. >> you see a lot of young people that require skills below what their actual level of training is. you see a lot of unemployment in addition to high unemployment. mean tack kids who went. i say kids, they're adults, depending on what terminology you want, who have gone to college, working at starbucks wlorks are working in retail they have taken on a lot of debt in order to obtain. >> so what are the implications then for society if have you this huge generation, a clunk of people who have come up sort of disillusioned not able to find the job they want or live the life they want to live. what does that mean culturally or for the country? >> you see a lot of disaffection politically when you look at statistics about trust government institutions and other institutions, you know, whether it's churches or schools or police or whatever, you see very low levels of trust, which could potentially turn into lower voter turnout rates and we already have relatively low voter turn jut rates but junl young people generally do. they don't vote in high numbers. but that could translate to all sorts of belativiors later in life that are related to this feeling of isolation and the world has given on us, they're blaming me for not having a job for not being able to afford a home when actually i want all of those things. >> so katherine, when you first came on this show a few years ago, i remember you saying you leak it a lot. what's on your hand? i don't think this story is of you young lady this does not apply to you. >> i got married two weeks ago. >> wow! >> so i am one of the exceptions to my generation. >> what's the secret? >> what's the secret? >> how do you make it work? >> have a job. >> have a job, that really helps, it's truer for men than women. people who have the biggest dropoff in marriage rates tend to be less educated men with fewer job opportunities. that's why i think in some ways. >> it's outlook. >> it's about a lot of other factors in your life that make it easier or harder for to you develop other relationships. >> to have those milestones, congratulations. >> thank you. >> i'm so happy for you. >> okay. still ahead, we'll take a look at some of the brightest young minds shaping the world of tomorrow. first at the age of 12, she learns she would be robbed of her hearing and sight. rebecca alexander's inspireing story of overcoming adversity is next. it's not being peter's sister, she's dealt with more than that. that's a tough one. we'll be right back with more "morning joe." when fixed income experts work with equity experts who work with regional experts that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. ♪ and zero words per manwich. hold on. it's manwich. . >> welcome back to "morning joe request itself national koerntd beter alexander and his sister rebecca alexander the co-author of the new book "not fade away." a memoir of sents lost and found. peter is here to share her story. it's a very personal one. good to see you guys. >> it's a great day. definitelifies to be here. >> definitely nice to be here. >> i am happy to share becky's story, he is one of the funniest, caring people, her world is changing rapidly. she is lost losing her vision and hearing. she has little left. becky is the face of courage as you will see to me. >> don't stop, rebeck car, let's go. >> this is my sister rebecca. she is 35 now and the most impressive person i know. >> faster! >> looking at her, you have no ideas every idea shy has a disability. >> can you see my hand right here? >> yes. >> can i see my hand right here? >> no. >> when becky was 13 she was diagnosed with a rare disorder usher syndrome 3. it finally hit you i will go blind and deaf in college. what does that feel like? >> i felt as soon as i got that diagnosis, i need to do everything i can to make up for my loss. it was like my way of fighting back. >> becky is fearless, a tornado of energy, she's an extreme athlete leaving the rest of us in her dust. >> pick up your speed. >> with her hearing almost gone, last year, becky received a cochlear implant, a surgically implanted device that gives ler a sense of sound. only becky passes the time before surgery like this. i came to see her the day before she got the implant. >> as you like to joke to me, i'm getting a hole in my head. as i come to terms with this, even as a brother, this is the last time i'll ever look at you without a device on you. you know what i mean. >> yeah. >> which for me is shard too. does that worry you, in the way people view you? i'm sorry, i'm crying, i love you so much. >> it's okay. it's nice to know the people around you do care and they do have an emotional response to it. >> now, becky hears much better but her vision is limited to this. like she's looking through a star strau. and that window is closing. still, my sister remains upbeat and undeterred. >> it's incredible how in the last, you know, 15 years, how much my life has changed. and it's actually better. i mean, it's funny that i could have a lot less vision and a lot less hearing and be a lot happier. >> wow. >> that's my sister becky. >> wow. >> becky. >> so we have to keep watching now after watching that. >> well, i'm struck, becky, if i can call you becky, by your strength and your support for her, peter. do you remember how you first learned about this? >> at 12 or 13 when you get any type of news about when you for all intents and purposes are just fully sighted and hearing, it's hard to understand what it would mean to be deaf and blind so, don't thingk i really processed it. i just had difficulty seeing at night because that's the way it affected me most at the time. i accepted the diagnosis as it progressed as i got older. >> your family's been incredibly supportive. i've seen you talk about your sister. i know you're in awe of her. how has this journey from your standpoint built you as a person? >> i better call her rebecca because if i call her becky, i'm going to hear it for the rest of the day. easy to be frustrated with something you're dealing with and being upset about nothing. and it just gives me ander would homes becky, rebecca, a sense of perspective. because it's hard to complain about a thing when you realize the experience she's having right now. i said that the day that my daughter was born was the happiest day of my life. this time right now is the proudest time of my life. she's still my kid sister right now. sharing her story so openly wither. that's a tough process. and not just sharing it, but inspiring people. everywhere, go, and i have the blessing of being on tv, nobody asks me about anything i'm doing. they say, how's rebecca? how's your sister? there's no one i'd rather be associated with than her. >> rebecca, how are you? what is the status of your prognosis? >> a normally sighted person sees 180 degree. i have just about 10 degrees of my central vision. i have a very small sliver of vision in my periphery. so i have strong central vision but it's quite limited. and the hearing loss, i have profound hearing loss. i was very lucky that when i learned about having usher syndrome in college, i learned sign language. and i, you know, joined, really, the deaf community and learned sign language, win has been very, very hap felpful. i had the implant a year ago. that has been helpful. >> that's the medical side of things. and then how are you -- how are you through the challenging moments of this? how do you describe them? >> well, it's interesting, because i think that we live in a little bit of a culture of focusing on all the things that we don't have or all the things that we're not as opposed to focusing on all the things that we do have and the things that we can do. it seems to me -- it's always worked for me that when i focus on the things that i still have, that i still can do, especially after being told i would not have -- inwas told i would be completely blind by 30 and i'm 35 so to even have 10 degrees of vision is, you know, pretty remarkable and lucky and i don't take that for granted. >> see what you're saying. >> she's not messing around. >> no. >> rebecca's an extreme athlete. >> what the heck? i know, i mean -- >> it's ridiculous. she wrote this book, "not fade away," and we call it a memoir of losses sense and found. as much about the things you can find as it is about the things you have lost. it's far more important to focus on what there is to embrace than it is to the things you no lo longer experience. i want, before her window closes, for all those image, to be plastered inside her mind. for the rest of her life, when she hears me, that thoser erth go away. >> this book is literally for r forrer. because we all can -- >> peter's crying. >> it doesn't have to be nearly as bad as rebecca's. >> yes, thank you. the book is "not fade away." rebecca alexander, thank you, so much. peter, thank you. can we talk about allison next at some point? 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>> well, he was a big star coming out of high school. the number one recruit coming out of the country as a receiver. unfortunately, he had a lot of problems. most serious occurred in april we he broke in his girlfriend's apartment and pushed her roommate down the stairs with two hands to chest, drug her out of the apartment by her hair and her neck. the girlfriend then 16 different times by text message begged her roommate not to press charges. no charges were pressed against this player. but university of missouri, in a proud moment for me, kicked him off the team. just a few months later, he was picked up by the university of oklahoma. and with a straight face, they asked the ncaa to waive his eligibility limitation because he was run off, the run off exception in the ncaa rules, through no fault of his own. the ncaa denied that request, thankfully. but what really brought this toem for me was over the weekend, i noticed there had been a poll of division 1 coaches. would who would you like your son to play for in college football. i couldn't believe it when i read that bob stoops, the coach, at the university of oklahoma, was the top choice. along with the coach from georgia. all the division 1 coaches. i said wait a minute, you want your son to go play for a coach who looked the other way, put this player on his team, and then tried to pretend he was kicked off the team at missouri through no fault of his own? to me, that is really the essence of the problem. that we are putting victory and winning or one-loss record over the conduct of these players and that reflects in every level of sports and every sport. lots of teams. i don't want to pick on university of oklahoma because this occurs all the time. >> it's a story that's close to you. you've got two major teams in your state. you're a big fan and you follow the college teams as well. claire, it's not just over sort of right and wrong, it's over the law in some cases, these choices are being made. >> it is. but what a lot of people have done is they hide behind the fig leaf. well, there was no criminal charges. you know, you judge the conduct of every case on its merits. regardless of whether or not women cooperate in prosecutions. regardless whether a woman is willing to come forward out of the shadows. there's a lot of pressure on women not to do that. but you look at the conduct and isolation. i want to mention another case, which has really got me. there's a federal judge in alabama that beat his wife in a ritz-carlton and was arrested in august and he sits on the bench today. and that is just as outrageous. we're spending a lot of time on the nfl, but there's no excuse for that federal judge to be sit ing with that kind of power after he acknowledged his conduct in terms of beating his wife. hlaceratio lacerations, in front of her children, all of that. >> it takes people like you to have a unified front on this. i'm still waiting if we've heard from the governor of california. other governors have spoken out. let me bring everybody up to date. we're going to be talking about sponsors as well. running back ray rice is now appealing his indefinite suspension by the nfl. the league's players association is demanding the punishment be overturned. in a statement, the union writes, in part, quote, supporting facts reveal a lack of a fair and impartial process, including the role of the office of the commissioner. commissioner roger goodell initially handed rice a two-game suspension for assaulting his future wife. then the league increased the penalty after another video could be irm firmed the violence that occurred. rice, who was dropped by the ravens, has been accepted by a rehab program and can be accepted by the league at the discretion of the front office. the nfl, and this is honestly what it's all about in terms of driving decisions, it's a $1 billion business. the companies that help foot the bill are clearly worried. one of the first to speak out was radisson hotels which earlier this week polled its sponsorship of the nfl vikings. now another huge name is raising concerns. the beer giant anheuser-busch says we're disappointed and increasingly concerned by the recent incidents that have overshadowed this nfl season. we are not yet satisfied with the league's handling of behaviors that so clearly go against our own company culture and moral code. that's a st. louis company, claire, by the way. visa says domestic violence in any form, unacceptable. has no place in the nfl or our society more broadly. all of visa's partners, including the nfl, maintain high ethical standards and operate with full transparency. several sponsors spoke out against domestic violence while reiterating their support for the league. many are taking a wait and see approach. according to the ap, nike stores and the twin cities have pulled adrian peterson's jerseys from the shelves. a company ek sspokesperson says that's as far as they know. and his product continues to be available for public. you represent some? >> yeah, i work with anheuser-busch specifically. it's a shame what's taken place. . lack of leadership at the top of this is what really let this whole thing get carried away. >> what's the strategy for sponsors? i'll tell you what i see. it feels liker's scrambling to catch up with the obvious. how does a major sponsor really make a stand on something and make clear it's eradicated, because it is wrong. >> the sponsors did it with the nba. i think the wait and see approach is goodell. is goodell going to keep his job and you know what the -- >> it's not about goodell. by the way. it's about -- i said this earlier. you and i brooth know, 99% of cs are good people. i think in this case, the ceos, budweiser and visa, have an opportunity now. they control the league. roger goodell does not control it. 20 to 40 ceos control the future of that league. >> you're talking about the sponsors? >> but the tv money is so big in the nfl. >> of course, from the sponsors. >> we will be back in a second. >> nor do i expect the sponsors to leave football. but they have the opportunity to say, look, we want to change the rules. the punishment is different. we are behind this league. we love this league. we're also behind treating women in a certain way. they have an opportunity to not only do the right thing but it's good for business. >> why are you saying it's not about goodell? there's no diversity in the c sweet period. there's no women there to look at this video and say this is wrong, we can't give this guy a two-game suspension. >> but the sponsors were okay with the suspension. >> the sponsors did not know at the time there was video footage in the elevator -- >> okay, hold that thought. >> i think the point that's being made about the lack of women -- by the way, goodell has worked to bring women in now to work on this problem, but none of the women are african-american and the league is 70% african-american so, you know, i think they're really -- this is a moment in our country for those of us who have toiled in these fields for decades in terms of domestic violence, whether it's judge mark fuller in alabama, ray rice or dgb, it is time for the sports world in general and every other part of our country to say, you know, we can foot turn a blind eye to this. now this has to be a priority in terms of recognizing this. the women are a big part of anheuser-bus anheuser-busch's market. they're a big part of the nfl market. the other things the nfl needs to look at. but the notion that this is all on goodell or all on the sponsors, it's on all of us. it's on women to begin to vote with their pocketbook about how they have been objectified and, frankly, how this problem has not been taken seriously enough. >> go ahead, willie. >> i was going to ask steve, just -- obviously the core issue is domestic abuse, but your business is branding. strictly branding question. we've been saying for last week, if they're so concerned with protecting the brand of the nfl, why would they protect the two players who, i hate to say this, but are disposabldisposable? why would they go out of their way to protect two guys? >> i think there's a long list of it. i think there's a long list of issues that happen all the time with these athletes and they tray to protect the league, protect the shield. they figure out ways going to get out away what's not going t out. then all of a sudden, social media and everybody came out rallying. the commissioner gets things like this across his desk, constantly. >> the senator, really fast, it does fall on the sponsors. they're the ones that have the switches. i'm a problem solver. it's great to say women need to stand up. what i'm saying is the quickest fix, once again, to get where we need to get to, which is new rules and new penalties, are for the people who are paying the bill to change the game. that's just a harsh reality. >> but that's the networks. you want to talk about who pays -- >> it's not the networkings. it it's still the sponsors paying the networks -- >> they're paying 20 million -- >> why couldn't they do that? >> the networks could black out the game, they don't have to play the games -- >> that's not going to happen. >> claire, i've got a totally different question for you, and then we're going to hit the musical angle of this and the television facet of this. >> the musical angle? >> it's not like a broadway musical. >> claire? >> yes. >> where are your counterparts in california on this? we have a san francisco 49er charged with beating his pregnant wife. obviously he hasn't been convicted -- >> mcdonald -- >> but he is definitely someone who should be benched. where's jerry brown, where's barbara boxer? where are your counterparts in the state of california? >> i'm sure that they are in agreement with me. i'm sure that dianne feinstein and barbara boxer, i'm sure they are firmly in the camp of this is a good time to say. by the way, all these players e deserve due process. we're talking about not allowing the system to make the decision. the player in california, the judge in alabama, the player in minnesota, all need to be held accountable for their conduct. need they say, enough is enough. one loss. we can win without having people on our team we can win without people who have decided it is okay to not have moral character. >> i think they should speak out. these are women's rights advocates, are they not? are they penople who care about their constituents? like claire, that actually involve some moral conviction? >> we should point out both senators, boxer and feinstein, were on the letter that was sent to goodell ripping his decision. >> i would love to see more. >> -- handled correctly, so in new england, when ash hernandez came up for questioning, bob kraft, nfl owner, new england patriots, he made that decision to get rid of hernandez before law enforcement got involved. that's where he understood the ethics and he didn't care about the comments. i think that's what the nfl issue is is that rub between ethics and commerce. they're picking commerce. that's ways behat's been happen >> in terms of the major sponsor here, but another element, the situation involving cbs sports and it the pop singer rihanna a what may or may not have been connected to her own past. the seven-time grammy winner was assaulted by singer chris brown. an image of her injuries was published all over the place. brown felt guilty to felony assault and avoided prison time. he received five years of probation as part of the plea deal. the two entertainers were ordered to stay 50 yards away from each other. just three weeks after, they reunited. they have since split up. during an interview, which we don't need to run right now, i'll just say, she discussed her decision to go back and talked about why it would be wrong to stay with him because it sends a bad message to other people. she went on to perform and sing. in a video with eminem, rihanna sings about an abuse nt relationship. lines like this, just going to stand there and watch me burn. that's all right because i lake t like the way it hurts. now cbs has abandoned its plan to choose a different song for its open for college football. it contains the lyrics, i'm addicted to the thrill, it's a dangerous love affair. last week, cbs dropped the song. with the chairman of the sports division saying, we thought journalistically and from a tone standpoint, we needed to have the appropriate tone and coverage been rihanna hit back, on twitter, writing, cbs, you pulled my song last week, now you wanna slide it back this thursday? no. you all are said for penalizing me for this. the audacity. cbs pulled the song for the season, saying we will be moving in a different direction. we will be using our newly created thursday night football theme music to open our game. >> pat boone will be -- >> okay, so rihanna got -- got it completely taken -- what, what's wrong? >> i'm laughing at donnie. >> a lot response on twitter pretty critical to my concern that perhaps her songs don't help any platform she would have to combat domestic violence. i haven't seen her really do that. go ahead, john tower, what are they saying? >> you wanted rihanna to step up. can educate the listener about what may be going on in a victim's mind about her lyrics. nicky wrote, you're still blaming the women. it's not the abused women's job to step up and put a stop to her abuser. >> steve is there any way they could have continued having -- cbs sports, rihanna in the open? >> i mean, thing there's a lot of -- it was music they picked in the beginning. they obviously liked the song. when you read the lyrics of that song, it makes you ask, wihy di you pick it any way for thursday night football? >> along those lines, i brought up jay z earlier, who would be a great guy to champion this cause. he's a good friend of yours. don't we have to go -- i don't want to sound like a cranky old white guy. the lyrics of so many of these songs that glorifies violence, glorifies a certain type of thuggish behavior. don't we kind of have to start -- this is your business. >> you have to look at the lyrics of the song. look, my point is, i don't know why cbs chose to use that song. you look at the lyrics of the song. i think pulling rihanna's song at that point because of the ray rice situation or because of the nfl was overreacting. you didn't have to pull that song. the song was a popular song. >> totally disagree. >> but why did they choose -- do you disagree with them using it in the beginning? >> i think it's stunning we're here right now, that that is -- think about all the things that were let go over the course of the past few months by fans, by viewers, by people who are supposed to be observers of culture, even us. everything just didn't connect. now it's all connected and it makes no sense to me that a woman who's the subject of domestic violence went back and still sings songs about it and does not have a platform against it should be opening nfl thursday night football. it makes no sense. >> i will tell you, that wasn't an eminem song. it was an eminem song she was on. >> okay, so -- what does that mean? >> you're calling it -- >> it's like it's okay? >> no, you just keep calling it a rihanna song, i want to correct you. >> rihanna is singing the song. that's the inappropriate connection. between thursday night football, in the middle of a domestic violence scandal, okay, that is having far-reaching ko consequences -- you're telling me they're waiting for roger goodell to go, this is so bad. >> yeah. >> so how could they open their thursday night -- >> i don't know why they would ever pick that sock in the beginning. that's my point. >> was it that -- i don't know if it was that song. it wasn't that song. >> no, but the symbolism -- >> wait if it wasn't that song, why did they pull the song? >> the song itself also has lyrics. she herself and her story doesn't really work for them right now. they're going in a different direction. vanessa bush of "es sense" magazine on last hour brings up the point it might have been a great idea to approach her, rihanna, to see if she'd like to join their coverage on thursday and talk about the issue. that would have been amazing. >> of course, we could all pontificate, but i want to say it again, you're a guy, you wrote a book, the "the tanning of america," bridges the corporate world and the african-american community in a meaningful way. isn't it time for the jay zs of the world, again, great man, people follow us, our lyrics inspire, challenge. people mimic. i think for any hip-hop artist at this point to be in any way in the song talking about violence against women and talking about hos and what not to be othver and i'm starting i. we just pontificate. people have to start doing stuff. it's the jay zs of the world. not the pundits, unfortunately -- and not even the great senators like claire mccaskill. >> i would argue that jay z has done that over the last ten years. he's helped hip-hop grow up a lot more. he's led the way in that -- >> keep going. >> if i were the nfl, i would invite rihanna to do a brief to camera monologue at the beginning of the game on thursday and point out to women across america that there are domestic violence shelters that can help them in their community. i think we need to remember there are thousands of women today in this country that will be too afraid to do anything. that feel helpless about doing anything. that are worried about the safety of their children. and we need to keep emphasizing every -- we're talking about this a lot. we're not spending enough time talking to the women that need to have the strength to get help and support in every major community in america. we now have a great network that can provide that assistance to women in the situation that rihanna was in. she did walk away from that relationship eventually. >> she did. >> and that is hard for these women. for a lot of complicated reasons. so i would hope, rihanna -- and i would think the nfl would ask her to do a public service announcement. >> totally. >> saying reach out, get help. >> i agree with the senator. >> steve, and then we have to go. for the sponsor anheuser-busch, is it a matter of goodell staying or going? >> i think it's a matter of seeing an action that -- >> what's action? because you started out by saying it's all about what happens with goodell. >> i'm saying the leadership. goodell, the leadership of the nfl, has to take action against all these cases and show all of their sponsors, whether it's anheuser-busch, visa, mcdonald's, that they're going to course correct so these things never happen again. it just seems like a lot of things -- >> are we even close to where we need to be -- >> we're not even -- >> might they pull their sponsership? >> i think if they don't see a quick change, they will pull their sponsorship. >> they're going to affect the change. >> senator mccaskill, thank you so much. great piece in "usa today." coming up on "morning joe," actor viggo mortensen join us. first, apple's solution to its security flaw. then, nearly three years later, one lucky dog owner finds his missing pup thousands of miles away from home. are you serious? we'll be right back. what if a photo were more than a memory? 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"the times" reports that globally there may be more than 200,000 self-driving cars on the road by 2025. >> from our new york affiliate w nbc, after more than 2 1/2 years, a lucky dog owner will be reunited with his pooch that was found thousands of miles from home. this is a fantastic story. he assumed his toy fox terrier ni ka, not mika, but nika, was stolen from his yard in upstate new york. this week, he received a call from a florida shelter saying a microchip plan had turned up his information. he hopes that he will be reunited with his dog by thanksgiving. >> what? why thanksgiving? >> how did he get 3,000 miles away? >> get the dog home. poor nika. i take it it's a female dog. >> it's not as heart warming as i thought. i'll see you in a couple months. >> ask nicole wallace. she named the female dog in the white house mika. >> who's better than nicole wallace? >> no one. even though she did that. the organizers of a pop-up restaurant under fire for offering the last meals of death row inmates on its menu. the website featured a series of photos with inmates with menus around their necks. the so-called death row dinners were going for 50 pounds or $81 a pop. after facing backlash, okay organizer, released a statement saying we're shocked and saddened by the response to death row dinners and are very sorry for any offense caused. the pop-up is -- >> every time you say it can't get any stupider in this world. >> and they're really shocked? 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>> they're pretty positive. i'll just point to ross because he's the tech critic. he calls it a winner. a lot of things he likes. i'll just point out one. because it matters a lot to me. the battery life. 14 to 15 hours. that's a huge improvement. >> wow. >> okay. >> that's something. now, that is something. and they're unbreakable? >> well, he actually said that he dropped his, but -- and it actually crashicked, but it jus shows you you do have to have a case on it. he was impressed with the larger screen. >> how much is the case? some of these cases are 100 bucks. come on. >> you can pay anything for a case. you can get a caissse on the stt for ten bucks. >> those don't work. he dropped it and it cracked. >> the iphone 6 plus is big. so i wonder who's going to buy that. it's not exactly like the phone you put in your pocket. it's kind like a pmini computer >> all right, sara eison, thank you. give me those glasses so i can read the tease here. all right. here we go. how we doing. from a 50 cents paper microscope to a computer program that helps people track what personal information they've shared, one of popular science's brilliant mines. actor viggo mortensen in his challenging new role in his film "the two faces of january." 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>> one of the problems today is with this data collection, you know, the internet never forgets. these web services ha s hardly remooed information they've learned about you. that's a big problem because if you write a sensitive e-mail and you want to delete it, you cannot do it. our tool is called vanish. what it does, it lets users create e-mails that are configured to self-destruct after a preset period of time. >> wow. okay. i love that. how did you -- how does she get chosen? >> every year, "popular science" looks for the ten people, the ten young scientists and engineers who are working in the united states who are incredibly impressive in that they're making ground-breaking changes in their field already and making the world a better place. she's tackling a really big issue which is what happens to your data when you put it online and through this software she's creating, she's approaching the problem in really innovative ways. people looking at big challenges and then looking at them creatively. >> did she grab your attention because of, say, our conversations about edward snowden and celebrities in the i-cloud and really -- >> i think it's even more personal than that. when you go online and you're at a commerce site and you plug in your personal data and your credit card. a lot of these sites wants to know your age and your sex and you don't know what happens to your information. this is a pervasive problem -- >> let's look at the others. half of the people in the top ten are women, which is nice. nicole abad, she studied bats to make drones smarter. >> yes, so she's -- lots of people tend to work at the intersection of different fields. nicole looks at how bads swarm and how to communicate with each other to not, for instance, bang into each other as they exit a cave. so to make robots smarter and help us create drones that can perhaps swarm. >> jordan green shows the immune system how to fight cancer. >> love that. >> yeah. >> creates censors for the internet -- i don't understand what that is. >> censors that can communicate with each other and can run indefinitely because they scavenge energy from their environment in order to power. it's a way to gather tons of data from the environment. >> and katerina is making an alternative to antibiotics. that could be earth shattering. especially the overprescription of antibiotics and the development of immunity in children, especially, who take too many antibioticings. >> yes, she's doing it in such an innovate imway in that she's looking at the body's defense system, the mukess your body creates. she's applying it to an artificial substance that could one day potentially do the same thing. >> i love the cover, the future of the car. it's not just a car anymore. i love this. i'm about to get my driver's license -- >> he's obsessed. >> yeah. >> we're going to be checking out the latest issue of "popular science." thank you so much. visit the afternoon mo joe session our website. afterno afternoonmojoe.com. what's he doing there? 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"the two faces of january" is available on demand and on itunes and in theaters friday october 26th. we saw you holding up a flag in the tease. i realize now you have a present for joe. >> i know he's a soccer, football fan. he's a liverpool fan. this is the pope's team. my team. since childhood. i wrote a little phrase for liverpool fans. you'll never walk alone. >> i'm doing a panel with him tonight in detroit so i'll deliver that to him. do you like it? it's wrong what i'm doing? they're not happy with this? >> if viggo's all right with it. >> it's very comfortable, thank you so much. the movie looks amazing. up next, what, if anything, did we learn today. take and... exhale.in... aflac! and a gentle wavelike motion... aahhh- ahhhhhh. liberate your spine, ahhh-ahhhhhh aflac! and reach, toes blossoming... not that great at yoga. yeah, but when i slipped a disk he paid my claim in just four days. ahh! four days? yep. find out how fast aflac can pay you, at aflac.com. i know what my money is doing. i rebalanced my portfolio on my phone. you know what else i can do on my phone? place trades, get free real time quotes and teleport myself to aruba. i wish. and for many, it's a struggle to keep your a1c down. so imagine, what if there was a new class of medicine that works differently to lower blood sugar? imagine, loving your numbers. introducing once-daily invokana®. it's the first of a new kind of prescription medicine that's used along with diet and exercise to lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. invokana® is a once-daily pill that works around the clock to help lower a1c. here's how: the kidneys allow sugar to be absorbed back into the body. invokana® reduces the amount of sugar allowed back in, and sends some sugar out through the process of urination. and while it's not for weight loss, it may help you lose some weight. invokana® can cause important side effects, including dehydration, which may cause some people to have loss of body water and salt. this may also cause you to feel dizzy, faint, lightheaded, or weak especially when you stand up. other side effects may include kidney problems, genital yeast infections, urinary tract infections, changes in urination, high potassium in the blood, or increases in cholesterol. do not take invokana® if you have severe kidney problems or are on dialysis or if allergic to invokana® or its ingredients. symptoms of allergic reaction may include rash, swelling, difficulty breathing or swallowing. if you experience any of these symptoms, stop taking invokana® and call your doctor right away or go to the nearest hospital. tell your doctor about any medical conditions, medications you are taking, and if you have kidney or liver problems. using invokana® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase risk of low blood sugar. it's time. lower your blood sugar with invokana®. imagine loving your numbers. ask your doctor about invokana®. into one you'll never forget. earn triple points when you book with the expedia app. expedia plus rewards. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. and when alan gets all powered up, ya know what happens? i think the numbers speak for themselves. i'm sold! he's a selling machine! put it there. and there, and there, and there. la quinta inns & suites is ready for you, so you'll be ready for business. the ready for you alert, only a laquinta.com! la quinta! time to talk about what we learned today. >> i learned that willie geist, our colleague and friend, is really rising to the top. he's becoming the honorary captain of the vanderbilt commodores this saturday. >> oh, very nice. >> it's pretty big. >> that is huge. >> willie is a member of the student media hall of fame at vanderbilt. this is a big next step. >> so sort of a stepping stone to get there? >> i think so, i'm running the campaign so -- >> thomas? >> this "popular science" magazine and how they pick the ten rising stars. we're going to talk about this in afternoon mo joe. so very cool how women scientists are leading the way. >> not fade away. get this book. it's a big for everybody. peter alexander was really truly -- >> he's a big softy, that peter alexander. >> sharing his sister rebecca with us. rebecca alexander wrote this book. it will make you appreciate life in a way perhaps you never have before. we're going to go to "the daily rundown" which is hosted by rebecca alexander's brother. have a great day. very proud brother today, mika, thank you for those words. hill of problems. a very busy morning for congress with a vote expected on arming syrian rebels. speaking about terrorism. an ebola survivor. the plan to save thousands in african. benghazi review. a whole lot more. mounting pressure and outrage over abuse allegations. the vikings reverse course. barring adrian peterson, their star, from all

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forgetting to fill in the blanks in the templates. >> thank you for joining us. we hope you have a great day. >> "fox & friends" starts right now. >> bye. >> hello. good morning. today is tuesday, august, 5, 2014. i'm in for elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. another american infected with ebola arrives in the united states, this as doctors test a man in new york city for the deadly virus. >> great. the white house has a whole new excuse for why they waited until now to do anything about the immigration crisis. >> the house, the senate and the white house, 2009-2010. why didn't you focus on solving the immigration crisis then. >> there were a lot of other crises the president was focused on at that point. >> that's right. remember this crisis? apparently the obamacare crisis was more important. but they're going to change that. >> call it high and dry. it's one of the worst droughts on record but it is not stopping marijuana growers from drenching their crops. the unintended consequences of going to pot. because mornings are better with friends. >> hi. this is henry winkler. you're watching "fox & friends." >> thank you fonzi. good morning to you, anna. look who's here today. >> good morning. nice to see you. >> thank you. nice to see all of you. >> we start this hour with a fox news alert. fears of an ebola outbreak inside the united states intensify as a new york city man is tested for possible exposure to ebola. this is as the second american infected with the deadly virus is set to land later today in atlanta, georgia. heather childers joins us with the very latest. roibt good -- >> reporter: doctors say the man came to an emergency room and was placed in strict isolation within seven minutes. doctors saying it is unlikely he has ebola but they are taking no chance. he was placed in strict isolation after he returned from a west african country within the last month and showed symptoms like a fever. test results due back within 24 hours. a second person with ebola is on her way back to atlanta. nurse nancy writebol will land in georgia and be transferred to emory university hospital. writebol along with dr. kent brantly are receiving experimental drugs never before used on humans. her son says he hopes his mother's suffering will be to help others. >> my mom might not be only to help those who she was trying to help there in country, but by her suffering in this and by her going through it, she may be able to help countless more through them being able to understand what's going on in her body and develop a cure. >> doctors at emory saying brantly who has been there for two days is improving. that is good news possibly. three other americans have been tested but all the results have come back negative. back to you. >> it's the big story on the cover of the tabloids here in new york city. ebola scare in the city and an ebola man tested for disease in new york. the headline is "disease unlikely." >> that' the headline. >> here is who it's terrifying for. i was reading about a lady living across the street from mount sinai where this man is being tested. she said she's aprayed for the people in the -- she's afraid for the people in the waiting room but you know who is screwed? the people in the waiting room. >> state, federal and local officials are probably tracking down those folks at this moment to make sure there was no exposure to whatever agent this person has. >> when you hear about a deadly virus with a death rate up to 90% it has the chance to cause panic. we've heard every expert say the chance is zero it will be taken to the united states. >> five minutes after the top of the hour. to keep us posted with the news on the cease-fire in israel, here is heather. >> good morning. hope you're off to a great morning. 72 hours of peace, that is the agreement between israel and hamas, the cease-fire taking effect this morning and over the next few days, delegations from israel and hamas will try to work out a long term truce and all of this happening the moment israel's ground troops pulled out of gaza. their mission of destroying 32 hamas terror tunnels they say is now complete. this is one of israel's more vocal critics. a british senior minister, a muslim cabinet member, resigns this morning. she tweeted this, quote, with deep regret i have written to the prime minister an tendered my resignation. i can no longer support government policy on gaza. that is the latest there. the federal government pulling the plug on emergency shelters in military bases for illegal aliens. nearly 7,700 immigrant chenoweth have been housed on -- immigrant children have been housed on bases in texas and california. officials saying the number of immigrants arriving in the united states has slowed down so they say other facilities can be used to shelter them. one in oklahoma closed friday. a marine housed in a mexican prison is back behind bars this morning after a hearing held yesterday in tijuana. sergeant andrew tahmooressi's lawyer is saying it could be months before the marine is free. in court tahmooressi faced the border guards who arrested him in march after he made that wrong turn and crossed the border with three guns that were purchased legally in the united states. his lawyer argued this, that the marine's civil rights were violated because no one translated the reason for his arrest into english. listen to this. >> we still have some evidence to enter into the record. it's going to keep dragging on a little bit more. i think the case is going very well so far. it could be three months but it could be a little more. >> tahmooressi's mother was also in court, the judge allowing her to spend about 20 minutes with her son after that hearing. former white house press secretary james brady has died. brady served president ronald reagan but was badly wounded in an assassination attempt on the president's life in 1981 in washington, d.c. after that shooting, brady took on a personal crusade for gun control. he eventually died from health problems that were related to that shooting. former first lady nancy reagan releasing this statement saying, quote, jim was the personification of courage and perseverance. he and s.a.r.ry brady action his -- he and s.a.r.ry brady never gave up. james brady was 73 years old. those are your headlines. what a legacy he leaves. >> no kidding. heather, thank you. yesterday we played you sound bites of the president of the united states. he was asked a number of times at different town halls, mr. president, why don't you do something about this immigration problem, and he said because i don't have the legal authority to do it. now we're hearing that the white house feels that they do have the legal authority. they're waiting for eric holder to give them the thumbs up sign to do it. and they could annestize up to five million of illegals in the country even though the president said in the past no legal authority. >> we showed you on video former house speaker nancy pelosi becoming completely unhinged on the house floor calling tom marino a liar saying remember when you had control of congress and the white house. why didn't you do anything back then? she called him a liar, said he is an insignificant person. our story developed more and ed henry pressed the white house press secretary josh earnest on the same they think. he said the president was too busy. >> the first two years of the administration the president vowed in 2008 by the end of my first year in office we'll pass a comprehensive immigration law. they failed to act for two years. why didn't he do anything then? >> a couple of things about that. the first is at the time, you recall in 2009 there are many things on the president's plate. >> as there are now. israel, gaza, syria, the economy. he has a lot going on now. >> i think the crisis we faced in 2009 as it related to our financial system and our economy, hemorrhaging jobs that that was understandably the focal point of congressional activity but also a lot of activity here at the white house. >> you had the house, senate and white house, 2009-2010. why didn't you focus on solving immigration problems then? >> there were a lot of other crises the president was focused on at that point. >> because the world is not on fire today. >> that is their excuse. we were busy. >> was one of the those crises the obamacare crisis, the political crisis, the necessity to pass obamacare. let's take a look back at this nugget back then. >> tens of millions of americans will be a whole lot healthier from this moment on. ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states of america, barack obama. [applause] >> they were busy with that big effing deal. they were busy with it because they made it their priority. they made it number one. now they're making immigration number one even though we've got so many things going on in this country as ed detailed. one of the biggest problems, you talk to people on the street and they say there is this problem with invasion on our southern border. it's curious because we had on the channel nick adams, a political commentator in australia. he was talking about how a number of years back australia essentially found themselves in the same situation we are right now. and how did australia turn the boat around? here's nick adams. >> we had a problem with our border between 2001 and 2007 and then a government full of secular progressive pinheads got elected and dismantled this effective border protection policy that was in place with the usual claims it was inhumane, it was wrong, it was immoral. the conservative government basically came in and said we are going to determine who comes into this country and the circumstances under which they come and they got the australian military to sort it out. a sweep of measures which included turning back the boats, towing back the boats. but most of all our prime minister said if you come to australia the wrong way, if you come to australia illegally, you will never get to stay. you will never get to live in australia. you will never get to be -- >> once you -- >> the problem was the government was full of secular progressive pinheads and then eventually the boss of the country said if you come here, we're going to send you home. >> how did they solve the problem? they cut off the water spigot, they turned the boats around like we heard so many cries like turn the buses around, turn the planes around and send these illegal immigrants back to where they came from. >> they have been very effective in terms of what they have done in australia. it has created a tremendous amount of controversy in terms of the practices they engage in in terms of holding these people who are seeking asylum. they have the same controversy going on here but they have been more effective in stopping the tide of illegal immigration in australia. >> is our border patrol effective at stopping the invasion on our southern border? we've got video to show you. it's a truck driver going through an border patrol check point. he's wearing eye cam glasses and taping the border patrol agent and he asks him a question and the answer, it's quite something. we want to show it to you right now. watch. >> border patrol. how many people on board? u.s. citizens. >> does it really matter? >> not anymore unfortunately. thank you. >> you too. >> are you a citizen? yeah. but does it really matter? not anymore. unfortunately. thank you. >> wouldn't it be something to have that level of honesty from high officials in government? >> good point. you saw just from the smirk on the border patrol's face, you realized how disheartened these guys have to be while they're changing diapers and warming baby formula and handing out lollipops and being glorified baby sitters and not being able to do their jobs in some instances. they're saying we ought to be taken seriously but right now we're not. >> broarm agents doing their -- border patrol agents doing their jobs and just as frustrated as the rest of us. >> also this morning voters head to the polls in four states today. all eyes are on the kansas primary and peter doocy is live in washington. many races seem to be pitting tea party backed candidates against established incumbents. >> reporter: the marquee race is in kansas where republican senator pat roberts on the job for 33 years must now defend his seat from a tea party challenger dr. milton wolf. this race has been ugly with challenger wolf accused of putting jokes about his patients' injuries on-line while roberts faces question about where he really lives kansas or d.c. roberts is still up double digits. in kansas, the republican candidate is fighting to keep his job while winn fights to take his job e. she has been using a platform because her son got injured in a gun deal gone bad. sentencing reform is center stage in the winn campaign as is legalizing pot. in michigan one of the most prominent tea party lawmakers in congress is on the ballot today as a chamber of commerce backed businessman brian ellis tries to surge ahead into a congressional seat. ellis doesn't think amash works within the system. we will wait and see if anyone can pull off a surprise victory like dave brat did against eric cantor in virginia in june. >> peter doocy live in our nation's capital, thank you very much. peter johnson, over to you. >> with california suffering its worst drought on record, water restrictions are rampant but that is not stopping marijuana growers from siphoning water from creeks and streams to irrigate their crops, while leaving the rest of the golden state high and dry. lieutenant patrick foy is with the california department of fish and wildlife. he's seen the damage grown by illegal marijuana growers guzzling up a lot of waters. good morning, lieutenant. we've got illegal marijuana growers, medicinal marijuana growers diverting creeks in a way that's caused the drought to be made much worse, the worst drought in california for many years. tell us about it. >> now that we have several years of drought it has become exacerbated by the process of these guys taking these small creeks and damming them with illegal diversion dams and taking the water out of the creeks, in some cases, in fact many cases they're taking every drop of the water out of the creeks to divert to their crops. that deprives the native wildlife, the local wildlife of their most pressures resource and in fact these pipes are so big that they oftentimes will justify the amount of marijuana based solely upon the amount of water that's available. they will take every single drop to grow these marijuana plants. >> the law requires they only take 10% from these creeks. sometimes they're taking the entire creek basically. what you're seeing in california is an attack also on wildlife as a result of what they're doing in terms of fertilizers, in terms of using rat poisons. tell us how it is affecting wildlife and what kind of wildlife is getting killed as a result of their criminal efforts. >> there's usually, most of these growers have zero rights to these waterways. they have no legal ability to take the water out of the creek. they take it any way. in addition to taking the water from the wildlife, they use these massive amounts of fertilizers, pesticides, plant hormones, all these different things and ultimately have a problem with the wildlife that comes in and they try to either dabbling -- damage the crops or get into the growers food sources and many of these deer, raccoon, basically every animal that lives in the forest have either been poached, shot by marijuana growers to prevent them from hassling them or getting into their crops or they have been poisoned by the rodent killers used in huge quantities to protect the irrigation pipelines from the rodents. they will gnaw on the pipelines and put little holes in them so they have to use massive amounts of rodent killers. >> the final question: what can you and the other officials do in california to shut this down, to stop this and return the water to where it should be going, to californiaans who need it legitimately? >> aggressive enforcement is the key tool we've used. we went to the governors office and he authorized seven new positions for us to help address this very issue. that is where we're going right now in order to try to better address the problem and help out with our major drought situation. >> bad problem and interesting solution. lieutenant, thanks for your service on this. keep us up to date on this please. >> thank you. good to see you. >> they may have escaped death but they have not escaped the law. why they could be busted for playing around on the trakdz -- tracks. >> from the battle field to wrestling wring. a war hero gave his leg for this nation but didn't let that stop him from fulfilling his dream as a professional wrestler. he's here live. hello! three grams daily of beta-glucan... a soluable fiber from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. thank you! and i'm here to tell hi,homeowners winkler that are sixty-two and older about a great way to live a better retirement... it's called a reverse mortgage. call right now to receive your free dvd and booklet with no obligation. it answers questions like... how a reverse mortgage works, how much you qualify for, the ways to receive your money...and more. plus, when you call now, you'll get this magnifier with led light absolutely free! when you call the experts at one reverse mortgage today, you'll learn the benefits of a government-insured reverse mortgage. it will eliminate your monthly mortgage payments and give you tax-free cash from the equity in your home and here's the best part... you still own your home. take control of your retirement today! ♪ we have quick headlines for you on this tuesday morning. google is pulling one of its games. the game called bomb gaza could be purchased through its app store. bomb gaza simulates israeli attacks on the gaza strip inviting users to drop bombs and avoid killing citizens and civilians. it is still available, however, on facebook. an explosion at a factory in china could delay the release of the next iphone. saturday's blast stopped production in nearby factories including fox con, the major supplier for apple. the iphone 6 slated to make its debut in october could be delayed. >> when he was 19 years old army sergeant chris melendez lost his leg in iraq but that didn't stop him. this war hero overcame his obstacles to fulfill his life long dream of becoming a professional wrestler. tonight he's making his debut and this morning he's joining us to tell his incredible story. as a kid, you had two dreams. what were those? >> serve my country overseas in combat and be a professional wrestler. >> your dad a vietnam veteran? >> yes. >> take us to the day you tragically lost your leg from an i.e.d. it happened in baghdad. you had just 23 days left. >> i think i was more angry and upset. i was in routine patrol in baghdad and struck with a roadside bomber which resulted in the loss of my left leg above the knee. >> what was treatment like? >> i was sent to germany to perform emergency surgery to check out the remainder of the limb. then i was sent to san antonio to rehab. >> when a lot of people put themselves in your position, i would think i'd probably get depressed, give up on my hopes and dreams but you did the opposite. what was it that made you feel so inspired to do what you're doing? >> the key is my training in the military, just having that military mentality. you can't feel sorry for yourself. that's the key. you can't get down on yourself beau you get sucked in. >> we're watching video of you wrestling here. what advantage and disadvantage do you think you have? you're moving around just as quick if not quicker than everybody else. >> it is all advantage. it is not a disadvantage at all. i move around a lot faster and less cumbersome if the leg were to come off. i can handle myself either way. >> tonight you're making your debut. what have you been doing for training? >> keeping my cardio up, keeping my endurance up because we never know what the situation might be. i have to be prepared for anything that might come my way. >> how often are you getting into the ring? >> as often as i can but it is important not to overtrain as well. >> i understand this will have its first air date on september 11 being filmed here in new york city. what significance does that have for you? >> i remember being a kid during september 11 and everything like that but it's amazing how everything has come full circle. i'm debuting in my hometown, my dream, something i wanted to do my whole life. tonight is going to be the taping. i'll be at the manhattan center on 34th street. look into impactwrestling.com. >> we've got a picture with you and the macho king. how old are you? >> i had to be maybe three or four at the time, something like that. >> you're going to be the macho king. what do they call you in the locker room? >> sarnlg is my nickname in the locker room. sarnlg. -- sarge. >> good luck. appreciate it. the sarge. 27 minutes after the hour on your tuesday morning. coming up, attorney general eric holder speaking out, admitting he is an activist lawyer. but is that his role? call the social media police. one restaurant going viral to catch people skipping on their bills. first happy birthday to actress maureen mccormick. actress maureen mccormick. she is 58 today. nexium®,is now available, without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. because the best moments in life aren't experienced from the sidelines. now there's nothing holding you back. this is nexium level protection™. the #1 prescribed acid-blocking brand. now without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protection™. ♪ ♪ it's your shot of the morning. a four-legged baby. a married couple from alabama re-creating the classic newborn photos with their dog snuggles. they wrapped her in a blanket. they're looking down at their fur baby. the photographer specializes in wedding and says they wanted the photo shoot to be tongue in cheek. maybe that will take the pressure off. so often when couples get married, the question is when is the baby coming. we'll give you a fur baby instead. let's talk about washington, d.c. you know, washington, d.c. in many ways is dysfunctional. maybe what some of the men and women down there need is inspiration. maybe they need a good book. and what book is better than the bible, so says congressman from mississippi steven palazzo, a republican. he got money from his constituents to send every member of congress, every representative, every senator a brand-new bible. >> for some divine guided. he said it's much-needed there with the congress that has been historically indecisive on quite a few things. here's what he says in a letter. on a daily basis we contemplate policy decisions that impact america's future. our staff provide us with policy memos, statistics and recommendation that is help us make informed decisions. however i find the best advice comes through meditating on god's word. please find a copy of the holy bible to help guide you in your decision making. somebody call the p.c. police. >> they have been called. he think that is interesting, exciting. i think there will be blow back. every congress person will send it back to him and hold a press conference and that will become the issue. i think it is an exciting being interesting thing. i'm surprised it hasn't been done before. >> you're absolutely right. you're right. freedom from religion or somebody like that is probably going to have a press conference to talk about how it's inappropriate. it's just a gift. if they choose to open the book and read the book, good for them. if they choose not to, fine as well. >> maybe if you're not a person of the christian faith, there are so many great life lessons you can learn from the bible. maybe they'll open it up and learn a thing or too. they're on vacation so they've got plenty of time. that can be their beach read. >> heather nauert has news for you. >> remember that philadelphia mother who drove into new jersey with a gun and got arrested for it. here's an update. she had that gun, registered in another state. her name is shaneen allen. she was pulled over in a traffic stop in atlantic city. she was pulled over and told the officer she had a gun permit in new jersey. that wasn't valid there so she was arrested. we spoke to her. >> i hope they pardon me on this situation because i didn't know it could happen to anybody. >> she is about to face a judge this morning. if she is quected she faces up to three years in prison. we'll bring you that as we get it. >> the man suspected of planting the bomb on the u.s.s. cole in 2000 is trying to prove he has brain damage. he was at a hearing in gitmo and asked the judge for an m.r.i. scanning of his brain. his lawyers say it will prove if his memory loss is due to ptsd and torture. americans were killed board the u.s.s. cole when it was hit by a suicide bomber. they dodged a 14,000 ton freight train but they couldn't outrun the law. remember those women who thought they had nothing better to do other than run across train tracks? this video coming out of indiana. the women laid down on the train tracks, managed to survive and now have been charged with criminal trespassing. police had to track them down. they did that with the help of railroad workers. they saw the women hop into a car. if these gals are convicted they face six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. who could forget this iconic dancing? ♪ ♪ >> steve, you've tried this a lot. kevin bacon turned in his dancing shoes for a guitar. ♪ ♪ >> cute? i love the tambourine. that is the actor and his brothers jamming to an acoustic version of footloose at the ronald mkd house -- ronald mcdonald house in atlanta. fantastic while families are getting treated. >> kevin bacon has been on the program with his brothers, the bacon brothers. >> they are fantastic musicians and so is the ronald mcdonald house. >> one thing the family doesn't have to worry about if they've got a kid in the hospital for a long time is how are we going to pay for the hotel room or motel important. >> it is important. >> 25 minutes before the top of the hour. out on the streets of new york city, maria molina is taking a look at the weather here. is there a hurricane somewhere? >> yes. there was a hurricane in the atlantic. that was upgraded yesterday. it was tropical storm bertha. then it became a hurricane. and now it's weakened and back to a tropical storm, maximum sustained winds at 60 miles per hour. it will sustain for the weekend and continuing to move away from the u.s. along parts of the east coast maybe rip current. not a big deal across parts of the east. it is in the eastern pa pacific ocean where we have two other storms. one being a category 3 eventually moving into parts of hawaii as a tropical storm by thursday. across our country high temperatures, look at parts of the east, we have temperatures into the upper 80's. it will be a lot warmer in places like new york city. in parts of southern california you are looking at conditions that are a little bit improving over, at least compared to what you saw over the weekend. the high temperature in l.a. forecast to be 80 degrees. a lot of that rain has moved eastward and into portions of the northern plains. look at how much rain we're expecting across parts of south dakota, parts of northwest iowa. we're expecting as much as four inches of rain. that is going to be a concern out there. showers and storms rolling through today into tomorrow and temperatures will be cooling off across the great lakes wednesday and thursday. let's head back inside. >> maria molina with the latest on the weather. let's talk a little bit about this. we detailed a little at the end of last week and that was that john brennan, the guy who runs the c.i.a., apologized to congress because the c.i.a. was spying on congress. think about that for a second. the c.i.a. spying on members of the house intelligence -- rather the senate intelligence committee because they were investigating the c.i.a. and as the c.i.a. was investigating them, everything got all haywire. >> which is clearly a violation of the constitution and the separation of executive branch and the legislative branch there. but is an apology enough? and what happens if he's proved wrong? you remember back in march he said he had no idea that any of this was going on and that once a report came out, things would be found to be false. >> we've got judge andrew napolitano. he's apologized for the c.i.a. spying on the u.s. senate. where would you like to start? >> it's a very scary story. first of all, the c.i.a. works for the president and the c.i.a. gets to spy, lie, steal, even fight secret wars as long as it reveals all this accurately and truthfully to the senate intelligence committee and the house intelligence committee. when it lies to the people to whom it reports, who are essentially its regulators, a, it commits a crime. and, b, it loses the authority to do the things the president wants it to do. >> let's talk about authority, telling the truth and lying. let's watch what mr. brennan says in march with regard to these allegations. >> when the facts come out on this, i think a lot of people who are claiming that there has been this tremendous sort of spying and hacking will be proved wrong. >> there's a little bit of waiver about the tremendous lying and spying but this has never happened before. the head of the c.i.a. publicly acknowledging that his agents spied on the senate of the united states of america. that violates the constitution per se because that's one branch of the government -- the executive branch -- invading the privacy of the other branch, absolutely prohibited. he also denied that it happened there. and according to senator feinstein, the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, he denied it in one of the private secret briefings to her. guess what? if he lied there, he can be indicted and prosecuted for lying to congress. >> which one is worse, the lying or being a leader that doesn't know what your people are doing? >> i'll tell you what's worse. what's the worst of all of this is that if the president did not know about this, he's out to lunch. and if the president did know about this and permitted it to go on and did nothing to stop it, he probably has committed an impeachable offense by authorizing and permitting his agents to spy on his adversaries in the senate. >> the president is still standing by his man. the white house had this to say. listen to this. >> i have full confidence in john brennan. i think he has acknowledged and directly apologized to senator feinstein that c.i.a. personnel did not properly handle an investigation as to how certain documents that were not authorized to be released to the senate staff got somehow into the hands of the senate staff. it's clear from the i.g. report that some very poor judgment was shown in terms of how that was handled. keep in mind that john brennan was the person who called for the i.g. report. >> john brennan is also the guy who said we didn't do anything wrong. >> how do you summon the appropriate amount of outrage in terms of understanding this? this seems like something out of 24 or some terrible novel or something that the man who works for the president, the head of the c.i.a., is spying on the united states senate. >> the language you just heard from the president of the united states as he attempted to justify it is enough to make george orwell blush. and right before the president made that announcement, in order to bury this, he said you know what? i looked at that senate report and we did torture people. we tortured some folks, the way he put it, in the bush administration. by the way, the c.i.a. has been spying on the smat and john brennan admits it. all this on a sleepy, lazy friday afternoon when the public's attention is elsewhere. the government is out of control. the president is permitting spying on the senate. and these guys can't keep their jobs when they lie. >> and democrats are calling for -- >> the democrats are calling for this. >> the attorney general investigating this? >> the activist attorney general? i wish he would investigate. a great point, peter because when the c.i.a. said -- when the senate ak cowed -- when the senate accused of cry of spying on it, they made referrals to the justice department and what did the justice department do? the activist attorney general punted. >> what peter is referring to -- >> who is the activist? >> eric holder, our attorney general, was interviewed by juan williams of fox news and he also has a column as well. and this is what the attorney general said partisan. if you-- said. if you want to call me an activist attorney general i will proudly accept that label. any attorney general who is not an activist is not doing his or her job. the responsibility of the attorney general is to change things, bring the u.s. closer to ideals expressed in our founding documents. judge, i thought we wanted an attorney general who looked at the law and said that is either legal or it's not legal. and not somebody who says i think i can make this legal if i do this. >> to look at the law, look at human behavior, decide whether it is legal or not, decide whether there is evidence or not to prosecute, independent of the ideological wishes of the president, that is the reason we have an attorney general. in fairness to eric holder, attorneys general of both parties have been wedded at the hip to the president. but for him to use that hot button word activist, and i know juan ginned him up a little bit, if by activist he means by defending the constitution, i'm with him. >> is he closer to an activist or closer to a community organizer? >> closer to a community organizer in the sense of i will do the president's bidding and look the other way when something happens that i don't want to prosecute because it is a hot political potato. >> is it a mistake to use this with juan williams and use hot button words? >> i think the word activist will be one he wishes he could have used another phrase. >> think about the supreme court. do you want a justice on the supreme court who is an activist? no. >> we connote activist with someone who inl -- injects their own ideology and uses that as a guidepost. that is not what we want, not what we need now. he shouldn't have punted on this n.s.a. spy. he shouldn't have punted to the black panthers preventing everyone from voting in philadelphia six years ago. selective enforcement of the law. is that activism or such a good lawyer? that is what it is. that is the phrase, selective enforcement of the law based on political ideology. >> in new york city there is this case where this fellow who had been selling loose cigarettes for 50 cents, he was taken by the cops, involved in an altercation. eventually he died and the medical examiner said he died because of a choke hold or something like a choke hold which was executed by one of the cops. now reverend al sharpton and others are calling for the attorney general and the department of justice to get involved. is this the kind of case given the fact that he's an activist attorney general he would inject himself into? >> i might be on the other side of this one. but this is initially a state crime and there is probable cause to believe there is a crime because the medical examiner ruled this a homicide, the choke hold. if the state fails to prosecute, the feds should come in. >> in the ordinary course the state has the first crack at it? >> absolutely because this is on its face a violation of state law. >> interesting stuff. i love having a judge and an attorney. judge, thank you very much. >> pleasure, guys. i love the purple anna. >> we're still on tv. >> i haven't had my espresso yet. >> coming up, youtube's newest and dumbest and most dangerous teen trend. we're warning it's hard to watch. kids lighting themselves on fire. the warning all parents need to hear. >> an umbrella that predicts the weather or a onesie that monitors your baby? gadgets of the future coming up. what can your fidelity greenline do for you? just take a closer look. it works how you want to work. with a fidelity investment professional... a a tap into the full power of your fidelity greenline. call or come in today for a free one-on-one review. call or come in today for a free one-on-one review. could help your business didavoid hours of delaynd test caused by slow internet from the phone company? 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>> it's not just a science fiction idea. those are some of the actual gadgets of the future. here is author of "enchanted objects, design, human desire and the internet of things," mit scientist david rhodes. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> let's start with the umbrella that predicts the weather. i love this. by the way, david invented this. >> right. this is trying to take information that you would otherwise stay up late and watch the news for, check an app on your phone. the idea is that apps will leap off the phone into everyday objects. so this has a little transmitter that gets data from accuweather.com for your zip code and just makes a little sprinkling led pattern so you don't forget it on the way out. >> right down there. so if you had that in your umbrella stand and you looked at it as you headed out and it's going off, you know to take it with you. >> that's right. couldn't be simpler. >> this is another one you invented. >> yes. this is called a glow cap. this fits on ordinary medication packaging. it will pulse with light and play cute ring tones and text you so you don't forget to take your medication. so it's another example of sort of embedding sensors in everything. medication packaging so that people are healthier and taking medication. >> and for something like this, people will take their medication in a better way and more effectively and more faithfully. >> yeah. we did a clinically controlled pilot with hour regard and found that -- harvard and found with this, people take their meds over 90% of the time, which is much greater than the average. >> some people think the microphone is bigger. but this is a camera clip. tell bus it. >> this is a life logging camera. takes a photo every 30 seconds and makes a flip book your day. it helps to capture your moments. it reveals things to you, like how often do you snack, how often are your friends looking at you and smiling. so my current company in boston called ditto labs is an image recognition company that looks at all these photos taken by something like this or social media to find brands -- >> when we saw you in the hallway, you were capturing me. >> that's right. the cameras will proliferate. >> talk about the sun sprite. >> sure. i have a bag, my bag has a little sensor on it that is solar powered that makes sure that i get another kind of medicine which is sun. so it makes sure i get enough sun in the morning, which resets your rhythm and improves your mood throughout the day. >> especially people who live in climates that don't get a lot of sunshine. >> right. >> on your wrist, tell bus that gizmo. first i thought it was a fit built it's not. >> no. it's by a company called jaw bone. it's jewelry with sensors imbedded. so this tells me if i'm getting enough activity throughout the day and what my sleep is like. actually if i've been sitting down for over an hour, it will give me a little nudge. it will vibrate lightly to sort of prompt me -- >> no sedentary activity. >> it's not going to zap you completely, right? >> hold that up. >> does it come in larger size? doesn't look comfortable. >> this is a product by a company in boston called the memo. it's a little onesy that has a stretch sensor imbedded so you may not have heard of this type of sensor. it senses respiration. it knows the temperature of a child. if the kid is moving around and breathing frequency. >> if it sensed dampness, it would be a good sensor to tell to you change the diaper. >> right. >> or your husband can change the diaper. >> interesting stuff. >> so the big idea here is that our relationships with technology is entirely changing. at stores we know today will jump off of the screen, embed themselves into almost everything around us. >> thank you very much. interesting stuff. coming up straight ahead on our program, a fox news alert. sean hannity is in israel. that's him right there. talking to the soldiers and even going deep into the hamas tunnels himself. will the latest cease fire be honored? he's live with doving details. what are the smartest buys for your buck when it comes to getting a pick up truck or suv? 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we're not going to have any fear factors coming your way. we have "consumer reports" giving us the best cars in four separate categories. >> later today after the program, i actually am taking one of my children to look for cars because heading back to collod choices here. >> absolutely. if you're looking for a pick up truck, we'll tell you what "consumer reports" is the best. meanwhile, one minute after the top of the hour and we start this hour with a fox news alert. sean hannity is live near the front line there between israel and gaza and he joins us live today. sean, the cease fire started a little while ago. how is it holding? >> steve, good morning. let me give you the lay of the land. so far it does seem to be holding at this moment, but it's very interesting where we are right now. we're on the israeli-gaza border and if you look over here to my right and to my left on my right you see an israeli regiment with tanks, et cetera. they have literally pulled back out of gaza, which is directly behind me. i'll give you the geographical location. the same thing is happening exactly to my left. now, if you look out where i am here straight out, there is a little bit of l.a. style haze and murkiness. but if you look way in the background, you can see gaza city. in the near distance, the second road that you will see here, that is exactly where the border lies, just beyond that is a town that was a launching pad for hamas and where they were firing a lot of rockets and pretty much that town has been wiped out in just the last couple of weeks here. over to my left is stay road. we spent a good part of the morning here. the cease fire began at 8:00 a.m. local time. it's 2:00 p.m. in the afternoon here. and just 7:59, a minute before it began, 30 rocks literally were fired from where i just showed you right into stay road. i spent a lot of time with the mayor there today. he said that in the last ten years, over 10,000 rockets have been fired from gaza into that town. we spent a lot of time inside children's playground that has six separate bunkers in there because the kids can't literally play outside because as you know, you have 15 seconds to actually get to a bomb shelter. i interviewed a lot of the parents and a lot of the people that work there. very compelling story in terms of what life is really like on a day-to-day basis with all these rockets being fired from gaza into that area. but it's been a pretty informative time here. since we've been down on the ground some 26 hours now. >> yeah. not just on the ground, but below the ground. we want our viewers to see some video of you going into some of the hamas tunnels. these elaborate infiltration tunnels that are hard concrete. let's take a look at this video. >> i used to be a contractor. look at the level of sophistication here. you've got these cement walls and blocks. >> all the same size. >> all built out, all pieced together. by the way, the construction overall, very solid. >> very. >> this isn't going anywhere. so they worked their way all the way lieu. >> and it takes a year. we estimate the progress it takes. >> and you have to have a lot of people working. >> and a lot of money t and a lot of digging to get this. >> this is cement that's incredibly valuable on the strip that's going here rather than anywhere else. >> a benchmark for success for israel to possibly pull back is destroy the tunnels. we heard initially there may be 30, possibly more. your sources are saying a lot more than that. >> i've been told by people here that they may have as many as 100. what's amazing about this, as i walk through this tunnel, first of all, it's about 60 feet below ground and the israelis literally he is coo straighted around it. there was excavation going on so you could get to the actual tunnel location. you go down a very steep hill. you get inside the tunnel. when you get inside, it's probably made for somebody 5' 9 or 5' 10. i'm six foot. i had to crouch down a little bit. if you look at the top of the tunnel, you had prepared literally formed pieces of cement. the walls were reinforced concrete cement. they had tracks on the bottom to bring the materials in and obviously as they're digging, they can bring the ground out. that is about one. literally behind me right where the border is, there is another tunnel location that the israelis found and out of that location came hamas militants that killed a couple of israelis just a few weeks ago. so it's a pretty sophisticated network of tunnels here and if the peace holds, israel has to ask the question, is it better to tip the job now or is this something they'll have to get back to in the near future? >> you asked some questions of some of the idf soldiers back from the front lines about why they're fighting in this incredible struggle and it's interesting what they had to say. let's watch together. >> when you go to just where a little over a mile away from the border and where the fighting is going on and earlier today we were at a playground and there you have all of these bomb shelters, when you see that, what do you think? >> i grew up like that. it's not new for me. >> how are you? you speak english, right? >> yeah, that's right. >> what do you say to how important this operation is and to finish it? >> the operation is very, really important. we've been waiting for a long time for such a serious operation. our people in israel are being attacked every day, are being threatened, something that i believe that we are the only country in the world that has to face such a threat such as the people coming out of the tunnel. >> they are rough solved to -- resolved to settle this, aren't they? >> you know, steve, peter, let me just tell you this, so i spent the time today, again, you see behind me is where gaza city is right over my right shoulder, over that way and over there you've got starute where i spent a lot of time today. in there is this daycare center 'cause the kids can't play. we spent a lot of time with the mayor. we went to the police station. we saw literally hundreds and hundreds of rockets that have been recovered. the guy who runs this daycare center, in part funded by a lot of americans, estee lauder and other people. but they built this one place where the kids can actually play and i asked the mothers that bring their kids there every day, okay. if you've had 4,000 rockets in the last six weeks which is what they told me have been fired from over there to right over here, why do you stay? the answer was very simple. this is our home. the man who runs the facility says if we leave, then that means everybody begins to surrender. we're fighting not only for us, but for you because this is the free world versus those that want to bring terror to the world. it was very interesting answer considering what they live under, the threat they live under each and every day. >> absolutely. it's relentless. you never know in this case, whether or not the cease fire will hold. all fingers are crossed because like you said, just a minute before it started, a bunch of rockets into that town in israel. >> sean, your reporting has been stellar on this. very interesting stuff. >> be safe. >> peter, if i can add just one last thing here, one of the things for all the people -- for all those people, and i know, for example, valerie jarrett and i know the state department and some others and john kerry and a lot of the president's spokes people have been speaking in days, i just have to wonder if they would experience one day, one week, one month, three months, six months with their families in this constant threat that is going on here, if it's 3200 rockets in four weeks, if it's literally starot next door which had 4,000 rockets in the last six weeks, one has to wonder, how long would you live there? how long would you want your children to live there? if you saw the rockets that i saw that they recovered, it's almost a surreal way of life that they are living. very, very different, very shocking to the conscience to see what life can be like in a war zone like this. >> what a good way to frame it. 1,000 rockets into new york city, you think that would get a response? absolutely. >> that's an astute observation. >> sean hannity live at the gaza-israeli border, thank you very much for providing reports throughout the day right here on the fox news channel. we're going to switch gears now and go down to the border crisis that we have going on. yesterday we told you about representative tom monroe and he was talking to nancy pelosi about hey, remember when you had control of the house and the senate and the white house? why didn't you do anything about immigration reform? why is it that the president is going to have to do this on his own now and potentially amnetize 5000000 immigrants and called him a liar, became completely unhinged. ed henry pressed the white house press secretary, josh earnest, on the very same thing and said the president was too busy back then. listen. >> nancy pelosi, harry reid is running the house and senate, first two years of this administration. the president vowed back in 2008 by the end of my first year in office we'll pass comprehensive immigration reform. why didn't he do anything then? >> the first thing is that at the time, you'll recall in 2009 there were many things on the president's plate. israel, gaza, the economy, he had a lot going on now, right? >> he does. but the crisis that we face in 2009 as it related to our financial system and our economy, emerging jobs, that that was understandably the focal point of congressional activity, but also a lot of activity here at the white house. >> you had the white house, senate, and white house, 2009, 2010. why didn't you focus on solving immigration then? >> my point is that there were a lot of other crises that the president was focused on at that time. >> so earnest says they were focusing on the financial crisis. but a lot of critics say they didn't focus on it in 2009 and 10, but were focusing on obamacare at that point. so the crisis not focused on. >> so now what the white house is doing is trying to push out this message because congress didn't change the law, the president's going to do it himself. that would be illegal, but they're trying to soften up the main stream media to press that as the message, oh, that seems reasonable. congress wouldn't do anything, so the president is just doing it himself. a little crazy. what do you think about that? e-mail us and we will read that on our little laptop machine. >> there we go. heather nauert standing by with a look at the news headlines for us. >> good morning. i have an update on the condition of that nurse who has ebola. she is infected with the virus and she's now on her way to the united states. we're talking about nancy writebol and now being flown to emory hospital in atlanta and expected to land later today and undergoing an experimental treatment and appears to have positive effects. she will join dr. kent brantley, her colleague, who has already been in isolation since saturday in atlanta. this is feared that the virus may have spread throughout the united states after a new york city man is now being tested for possible exposure. doctors at mount sinai hospital in new york saying it's unlikely that he has ebola, but they are still awaiting the test results. let's talk about extreme weather. six inches of rain within hours in naples. roads turning into rivers there during rush hour, stalling cars and stranding drivers. imagine that, six inches in an hour. then let's talk about california. clean-up now beginning in southern california. devastating floods and also the mud slides damaging at least 30 homes and stranding thousands of people in the town around san beer dino mountains. some of the roadways still being cleared. the mud slide also blocking in 500 adults and children at a church camp. the roads there have since been cleared, but the kids are still there and they're all now helping with the clean-up. voters headed to the polls in four states and right now all eyes are on the kansas primary. three-term republican senator pat roberts in a tight race against tea party challenger milton wolf, he's on the right. wolf is a doctor and a second cousin of president obama. then in the kansas race for governor, sam brownback is facing opposition in the republican primary. business owner jennifer nguyen is a dark horse on the ballot there. now washington state. the race for one prosecutor is going to the dogs. 9-months-old dog, nima, in canada there, her owner says he's honest and charming and that's when we like to see in our politician. voters in michigan and missouri also head to the polls today. listen to this, a democratic congresswoman, julia brownly. she made an error just about as big as an aircraft carrier. the democrat from california sent out a taxpayer-funded letter to voters in her district and it featured a photograph of a woman in uniform. see the bottom right corner of your screen? there is just one problem. these are costumes and they're not official uniforms. also, by the way, shows a gold insignia from the german air force and perhaps what's most embarrassing, she serves on the veterans affairs committee. and those are your headlines. >> oopsy daisy. thank you very much. parents, be on the alert. come to the tv to watch this. the latest youtube trend has teen-agers lighting themselves on fire. here is a warning, a little hard to watch. no! >> okay. it's being called the fire challenge where teen-agers pour flammable liquids on themselves and flick a lighter. several kids have received second degree burns and it is just outright stupid. oftentimes they're close to a tub or a shower or a pool, they try to put themselves out quickly, but as we see right there, things can go horribly awry. we are joined by psychology professor, dr. charles williams. good morning to you. >> thanks for having me. >> you know, i'm looking at this and i'm thinking, that's about as dumb as anything i've seen in a while. why are they doing it? >> you know, when you live in an era today where kids, too many kids will do almost anything to get attention, to get hits, clicks, views, likes on social media apps. now that includes setting themselves on fire. i can't believe i'm talking about this on national tv. seems like a cruel joke, but it's real and we have to talk about it so that parents can know what the signs are in terms of maybe their kid going out and getting nail polish remover and then being able to talk to them about the possible dangers of not only this social media game, but other social media games we've talked about in the past. social media has become a very dangerous place for kids. >> sure. you're right. it's all about the number of clicks because i've got kids in their teens and 20s as well and they talk about hey, dad. look at this thing. it's gone viral. i'll look at it and sometimes it makes sense. but other times stuff like this. i'll be thinking, what is going through their head? doctor, we have talked on this program before about depraved kids who get bored and they went out and killed somebody because they had nothing else to do. is this another instance like that? >> well, it's similar in that like i believe that was the slender man, that whole debauchle which led to a young woman being maliciously attacked and killed and they decided to do that because they wanted to, i don't know, please slenderman, the social media creation. i think what is similar is that again, to be liked, to get attention, to have followers, to feel as though you're part of something, to feel as though you feel in, young people will do some very malicious and heinous things, from the knockout games, flash mobs and now setting themselves on fire. so we have to be very aware of these dangerous trends and more importantly, parents have to be aware because can you imagine getting a phone call saying that one of your daughters, god forbid, participated in such a game like this? so we really have to talk about the dangers of social media now. the irony that social media was created for people to be more social, to engage in positive social behavior, to be connected, and now we have them engaging in these very dangerous acts. >> okay. so your advice is for parents to monitor their kids' social media. what does that mean? i know my kids have twitter and facebook and some other stuff i've never looked at before. i know they have it. but i'm not looking at it. >> there you go. that's it, steve. you're not looking at it. as parent, i'm not lecturing but. but it's your responsibility to look at these things. back in the day we had the corner of the block. we had the mall, we had playgrounds. now we have twitter. we have facebook. we have vine. we have instagram. these are places in spaces where teens r they congregate and gauge in social behavior and sometimes that social behavior is dangerous and the reason why so many dangerous things are happening now in social media, it's my opinion because parents and adults aren't involved. we don't look. we look away. we say that's the private space. but bad things can happen in these private spaces. so parents have to be aware. they have to educate themselves about these dangerous trends and you have to monitor. there is software to monitor your kids on line behavior. >> and if people would like to know about that, just google it. dr. williams joining us from philly, thank you very much. talk being this. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. 20 minutes after the the hour. first it was our bank accounts. then high-tech cars. now a new warning that even passenger jets can get hacked. then meet the brand-new miss new teen usa. the message she has for every young girl, caylee graham walking into our studio right now. good morning to you. and welcome to "fox & friends"! >> thank you. ♪ ♪ (vo) get ready! fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies, and never any by-products or fillers. wow! being a cat just got more enjoyabowl. fancy feast broths. wow served daily. ♪ go! go! wow! go power...oats! go! made from oats cheerios! cheerios! go, go, go! go power oats! go! cheerios! go power! go...power! yayyyy! time for news by the numbers. first, one cent per teaspoon. democratic congresswoman rosa of connecticut proposing a national tax on sugary beverages. the sweet act would be paid by manufacturers of the products. next, $51 million. $51 million. that's how much sandra bullock earned last year, making her hollywood's highest paid actress. who came in second? 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>> miss usa woke up ating 3:45 to make sure i was on time and ready to go. >> so you would imagine that it would be kind of catty in an apartment with three beauty queens. but not the case? >> no. >> what does it feel like? you've been doing this for a long time and the culmination of getting good grades and making sure you stay in shape, everything else. what does it feel like? >> it was crazy. i've been working for three years since i started competing in my state pageant. but i've been in school really pushing myself and my academics. >> congratulations. >> i've been balancing that and trying to get ready for miss teen usa. it's been a lot of work, but paying off. >> i think that's what's most impressive team about you is how much you pay attention to your academics. you may apply to yale? >> yeah. it's an option now. i'm still thinking about it. academics are huge for me. i think education is the foundation for anything do you in life and something i want to pursue. >> beauty runs in the family. your mother actually was miss teen usa 1985. >> miss south carolina. >> miss south carolina teen usa. what does she think about all this. there she is. >> she's incredibly proud. i talked to her this morning. she's over the moon. >> yeah. you're on a campaign talking about beauty being within, which is something that young girls obviously have a hard time with when they see these movie stars looking perfect and air brushed and everything. but you obviously have been blessed physically. so some girls may think, i can never look like her. she doesn't know what she's talking about. >> well, i want to say to all those girls, your appearance does not define you. no matter what you look like. if you're super beautiful -- i think everyone is beautiful. but appearance is not so much what makes you you as your character and who you are. i think that character is what really, that's where your beauty lies. >> k. lee graham is miss teen usa 2014 from south carolina. >> thank you so much. >> caught on camera, a jet ski flying out of control. >> oh, my! oh, my god. is he okay? 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the light at the end of the tunnel may be a long time coming. listen. >> right now until this stage is over. since it's not over yet, we still have some evidence to file, we still have some evidence to enter into the record, it's going to keep dragging on a little bit more. it could be three months, but it could be a little more. >> okay. luckily we got peter johnson, jr. here, an attorney. how can this take three months more? >> because it's not the american system of justice. it's the mexican system of justice and it appears to me, based on what i've read, they're slow walking this a little bit. he's got a strong attorney, it appears. he's trying to check out the due process issues. was he given a translator? was the arrest processed properly? was there writings on the documents that didn't belong there? so he's trying, in terms of technicalities, to get this thing thrown out. but the issue becomes for a lot of americans, why can't the president pick up the phone and resolve this thing outside of the criminal justice system, especially when i understand that mexico has actually changed the sign where our poor fellow took the wrong turn. it's been changed to make it clear. >> because apparently the day he went through, it was on the ground and you couldn't actually see it. some of the things his lawyer said was apparently he said that the arrest form was blank when mr. tahmoreesi was stopped, it was blank, and the mexican officers just filled it out right there, which seems a little odd. they also said, the attorney did, that apparently 11 pages were missing from the record. and the border patrol appeared to have been coached. >> they need a diplomatic resolution. that's the president. >> absolutely. come on, we've had the family on the show, his mother, saying remember this 911 call? it pretty much proved that he got lost. he didn't come here nefariously. he called 911 and said can you help me? she said, you've crossed the border, son. i'm sorry, there is nothing i can do for you. but mom says it proved it. come on. >> crazy story. >> come on, mr. president. >> it doesn't look like he's out 'til november at the earliest. in the meantime, we got more news. heather? >> a lot of folks are nervous about flying these days. here is another issue to think b. passenger jets could be at risk for a cyber attack. researcher figured out how to hack into satellite communication systems. so this basically means a hacker could use a plane's on board wi-fi signal to interfere with navigation systems that rely on those satellite transmissions. frightening to think about. caught on camera, a woman at the beach nearly crushed by an out of control jet ski in the bahamas. look at this. >> oh, my god. is she okay? >> climbed off that jet ski. she had just seconds to spare. you can see a guy and a girl on the other jet ski flying through the air after the crash. amazingly, everyone walked away okay. our guys in the news room like to look at the pretty girls. we'll probably show you that again. speaking of looking at folks dressed, the u.s. army is unveiling its new camouflage patterns and said to be rolled out by summer 2015. it's called operational camouflage pattern. it features green, light beige and dark brown. the uniform is designed to help troops hide in the environments they're most likely to encounter these days. that design actually replaces the current one, the digital cammo. call it the least sincere apology ever. a united airlines customer rep forgot to fill in the complaint. the letter refers to a specific event and a specific item. the airline claims it can't confirm that the letter is even real just based on a picture. but nevertheless, that passenger not too happy. those are your headlines. let's go over to you. >> left out some details. thank you very much. extreme weather to report this morning in las vegas. emergency crews rescuing stranded motorists after thunderstorms dumped several inches of rain just in a couple of hours. flash flooding in low lying areas. at least 30 cars were stuck on the flooded streets. thankfully, nobody reported injured. >> yeah. fortunately. we'll hand it over to maria molina outside on the streets of new york. been talking a lot about bertha, tropical storm hurricane, what's the latest? >> right now bertha is a tropical storm maximum sustained winds at 65 miles per hour and forecast to continue to weaken and remain off the east coast of the u.s. this is great news for the east coast of the united states, most impacts how you'll look from bertha are rough surf, possibly some rip currents. but overall, the storm expected to continue to weaken and move away from the coast. temperature wise, the temperatures are going to be climbing across parts of the east coast. you'll make it into the upper 80s in new york city, raleigh, north carolina, and you're in the 90s from atlanta to the plains. it's going to be another hot one across parts of arizona. but parts of southern californi. 80 degrees in l.a., areas of heavy rain forecast in the northern plains. now let's head over to peter. a new report shows small cars may not do well in some crash tests. so what are some of your best options at the dealership? "consumer reports" has drove more than 260 cars and here now with some of the best, deputy auto editor of "consumer reports," jeff bartlet. good morning. >> good morning. >> we've got four and you say these are four of the best. let's start with the subaru, honda accord. >> here is the subaru. it is a small car, but it's one that has outstanding marks for safety. it's a good all around car. this gets 27 miles per gallon despite being all wheel drive. agile ride, a lot of car for the money. >> $21,000. >> 21 as it sits. starts a little less. >> let's go. here we go. the honda accord. this is a beautiful-looking car. i understand, look at this, this is a roomy car. >> this is an extremely roomy car. this has the unique designation within our test of being well suited to small drivers and tall drivers. very versatile. this gets 30 miles per gallon overall. 40 miles per gallon highway. despite being a large roomy car. >> 4 cylinder car. >> is this a 4 slippedder. you can get v 6 if you want. >> toyota highlander. i'm told you can fit eight people in this car or a version of it? >> you can. depending on the seats in the second row, whether captains or bench, you can fit up to seven or eight passengers. this is a redesigned suv. gets top marks in our test. a good all around package. notable for having more agile handling than in the past. >> v 6, six speed automatic. we have this third row and it's pretty easy to get in and out. >> it is. especially with the captain seats. >> this is interesting. we've got our chrysler. tell us about this vehicle. i'm told first time in 16 years that chrysler vehicle like this has made it to the "consumer reports" list. >> been a long time since chrysler has been in our top ten. this here is the new ram in diesel form. we tested the nondiesel and it absolutely shined in our pick up truck test. pick up trucks tend to compete based on numbers. but where this really shines is is less tangible elements of being quiet, having a great ride thanks to coil rear suspension. we think this is the pick up truck that can not only do the work chores but you'd want to live with during the week. >> why is the coil spring important? >> here you have a full size truck that has suspension that's more like a mid-size suv rather than a simpler leaf spring suspension like you see in a traditional truck. what that does is help handling and also helps the ride. >> wow. absolutely, this is a v. 8 and eight speeds? >> this one here is a diesel version, so this is the one that's right for towing and also excels for fuel economy. >> these are really interesting cars. i know steve is looking for one today. so maybe he'll be looking at one of these today. jeff bartlet from "consumer reports," good to see you aislings. >> good to see you. >> anna, what do you have to say? >> you're right. i am looking for a car for one of my college-age girls. >> yes. >> but i want a pick up truck. 19 minutes now before the top of the hour. coming up, how would your child react to finding a gun and their parents aren't around at the time? our hidden cameras capture what happens when kids encounter a gun while playing. see how differently the boys and the girls in the study react. and who doesn't love bubble wrap? 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>> i did not know that. >> now you do. so fairway is great. they have 100 jobs open right now. most of it's going to be in the tri-state area, new york, new jersey, connecticut. best olive and cheese shop, they were given that award. and they also are going to be opening two more stores. each store will be about 100 jobs. so the company is really expanding. they went public. doing really well right now. >> continuing with the theme on food, there is a company called which which. >> customizable sandwich, personalized sandwich bags. 1,000 to 2,000 jobs open. they're a franchise. but forbes says they're one of the best deals to open if you're willing to pay for a franchise. forbes ranked them really high. >> it seems like any time you get something in the mail in a little box, you unpack it, one of the first things you do is pop the bubble wrap. the company behind that is looking for some people to pump them up. >> bubble wrap is a great stress reliever. it's a new jersey company. they're hiring right now in charlotte, north carolina. this is 1262 jobs. the average wage for the company, 119 grand. yes. >> really? >> yes. hot air? >> i don't know. no. i'm telling you, that's the average salary. but it's food packaging, things like that. i'm going to put everything on casoneexchange.com. i haven't done it yet. all the links will be there so you can apply directly to the company and bypass me completely. >> as always, if you do find a job through her, let us know. >> we would love to have you on the show and hear your story. >> thank you very much. 12 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up, how would your child react to finding a gun if there weren't any grownups around? >> oh, oh. >> what? >> our hidden cameras capture what happens when kids encounter a gun while playing. and see how differently the boys and the girls react in the study. first on this date back in 1989, "bat dance" by prince, number one in the world. ♪ ♪ hello! i'm a kid. and us kids have an important message for our grown ups. three grams daily of beta-glucan... a soluable fiber from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. and where can you find beta-glucan? 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do you think it's a real gun or toy gun? >> real gun. >> you think it's a real gun? would you want to touch it? >> no. >> how come? i'm glad you don't want to, but how come you don't want to touch the gun? >> because -- whoa! >> did your mom teach you? did your dad teacher or school? how did you learn? >> my dad. >> mom and dad taught you. >> okay. what's going on there? >> that was very interesting. that was our first group. five and seven-year-old boy. they had been taught not to touch guns. he actually told me that he would not trust me, that he did not know for sure if it was real or not and he was not going to touch it. and the five-year-old was not at all interested. it was really surprising. i would have expected younger children to want to know what that gun was all about. >> sure. >> then the next scenario we have are a couple girls and they actually find the gun in the room. let's watch this play out. >> what is this? >> what is it -- a gun! how do you use it? >> i don't know. >> oh, oh. >> what? >> put this down. i don't really know if it's safe. >> put it away. don't touch it. >> that was really fascinating because i guess there was a little sexist, i did not expect the girls to be interested in the guns and they were the most interested in the guns. >> why is that? >> they had gun safety from their parents. they had been taught on a daily basis not to touch guns. so it was really surprising that they not only touched it, the older child really pointed it, pointed it at herself, really would have done something, possibly dangerous. and i think that was because -- she became familiar with the gun and therefore, she didn't expect the risk, like she thought she was more in control. but she did protect her younger sister as she said, let me feel it. she went like this and said no, no. this might be dangerous. >> let's look at the third one. this is a brother and sister and they're joined later by a group of siblings. let's see what happened and you determine really what was going on. >> you can look around and i can see if there are any other toys. okay? >> i already checked this out. >> i checked that gun out. >> this is a toy gun. >> that's a dangerous toy. i'll get something else. i'll be right back. >> there was some fascinating things here. the kids, i had told them this is dangerous, don't play with guns. i put it back down. the minute i left, they started playing with the guns. i came back in and said were you playing with the gun? oh, no. i left gun, they picked up the gun, pointing it at everybody. >> interesting stuff. the key is you have to talk to your kids about it. we thank you very much. great analysis on this stuff. >> thank you. the series does continue tomorrow. up next, the trucker who took this video. >> how many people on board? >> me. thank ythank you for defendiyour sacrifice. and thank you for your bravery. thank you colonel. thank you daddy. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance can be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. hello. good morning. today is tuesday, 5th of august, 2014. aim anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. o of course news alert. today another american infected with ebola arrives back in the united states. this as doctors test a man in new york city for the deadly virus. and talk about wide open borders, look at this. >> how you doing? how many people on board? >> me. >> u.s. citizen? >> yeah, does it really matter? >> not anymore. unfortunately. thank you. >> not anymore unfortunately. thank you. up next, the trucker who took that video says this happens all the time. he's here live. >> and then this man is being mauled by a bear, but just when it was about to get worse, justin bieber came to the rescue? mornings are better with friends. biebs will tell you that. >> this is rickey skaggs. >> your watching "fox & friends." >> leave it to bieber to help that guy. >> excellent, steve. >> look who is here today. we got brian gone, peter in for him. elisabeth is out and anna joins us. >> good morning. >> we've had a busy day. >> we have been talking for the last couple of weeks about the invasion on our southern border. and last week it was pretty clear that the president intends to amnetize 5000000 people in this country illegally. what they're essentially doing is saying look -- this is their argument, although it's not true -- congress did not change the law, so the president is going to do it for them. that's not actually how things work in this country, but that, peter johnson, jr., i can see you're chomping at the bit. because that is not how things work. >> that's not how things work. but the white house press secretary, josh earnest, head to head with our chief white house correspondent, ed henry said, we were too busy back in 2009 to get that done. too busy! >> nancy pelosi and harry reid were hundred -- running the house and senate. the president vowed by the end of my first year in office, we'll pass comprehensive immigration law. they failed to act for two years. why didn't he do anything then? >> the first thing is that at the time, you'll recall in 2009 there were many things on the president's plate. israel, gaza, syria, the economy. he has a lot going on now, right? >> he does. but the crisis that we faced in 2009 as it related to our financial system and our economy, hemorrhaging jobs, that that was understandably the focal point of congressional activity, but also a lot of activity here at the white house. >> you had the white house, senate and white house, 2009 and 2010. why didn't you focus on solving immigration problems then? >> my point is that there are a lot of other crises that the president was focused on at that point. >> if you remember back during that period of time, they were working on a really big deal. remember this? >> ten americans will be a whole lot healthier from this moment on. ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states of america, barak obama. >> so back then -- josh earnest says look, we couldn't pass it when we controlled both houses and the white house back then 'cause we were too busy doing that big [ bleep ] deal right there. how did that big [ bleep ] turn out? well, a lot of people would say it's a big [ bleep ] mess. >> they're talking about obamacare there, that they were spending their time, energy and efforts working on -- and not work on immigration reform when they did have the house, senate and the white house and they could have done something about it. >> there were no immigration bills pending at that point? no. >> even though the president has no legal authority, it looks like he is going to amnetize up to 5 million. and the border crisis may not be a new issue, but the broken spirit of our border agents is a growing one. watch this video that was taken by a guy on his i camera where he's driving a truck through one of the border patrol stops down in texas. he has an exchange with the border patrol agent who seems to be just as frustrated as all of us are. >> how you doing? how many people on board? >> me. >> u.s. citizen? >> yeah, but does it really matter? >> not anymore, unfortunately. thank you. >> you, too. >> not anymore. >> joining us now over the phone, exclusive interview with the trucker who took that video, travis pope. you just pulled over, right? >> yes. >> travis, you say you see this all the time. you have these conversations with these borrowed patrol agents, who you like and who you trust, and this is the response that they give very often. >> yes. i travel the border states all the time. i ask that question of every one of them and that's what they give me. >> what made you decide to put these glasses on. something that you're fed up with watching these illegal immigrants flood through our borders with open doors? >> yes. i wear my glasses all the time. just this morning the sun was in my eyes and i just put them on and i turned them on. i always turn them on when i go through the checkpoint just in case get pulled in or anything. >> so we understand, was it a set of icam glasses? >> yes. icam glasses. i got it at cabell a's. >> you pull up here. tell us where this is and what was going on at the time. >> it's there in sierra blanca, texas on interstate 10. i see and hear all the stuff all the time about the border, the immigrants coming across and our government isn't doing anything about it. they've tied their hands since janet napolitano was there giving the catch and release order, i've even asked about that. they said yeah, that's basically all it is. we catch them and release them. >> sure. travis, this is not the international crossing into mexico. is this an interior checkpoint at sierra blanca, texas? >> yes. that's correct. we call them border checkpoints. >> so there is a checkpoint before you get to the border? >> no, it's not that type of checkpoint. >> travis, you also indicated that you believe the agent that's on this video and others that you met are true american heros, but they shouldn't be tied down changing diapers and doing the like. what do you mean by that? >> well, their job is to catch the people coming across the border, detain them and then we're supposed to deport them back. but our government isn't following the rules on the books. we don't have a border problem. we have a government problem. they won't enforce the laws that we have. >> travis, in your opinion, do you feel like these border patrol agents actually really deserve respect from everybody -- people are thinking they're not doing their job. well, they're trying to do their job, but they're taxed, with they not? >> yes. that's all they're trying to do is do their job. but they're given orders from up above from the white house, administration not to do things. and they can't do it. and so they're basically reduced to just asking if we have -- if we're u.s. citizens and letting us go. they can't do nothing. >> i guess it's the honor system when they ask you. that agent right there, it does seem in his answer, he's just frustrated with the situation like the rest of us. >> yeah. he's an american. all of them down there are just as frustrated as all of us. same question i ask at all of them. they all say the same thing. they're just all fed up that they can't do their job. >> travis pope, we're going to let you get back on the road and do your job there driving your truck. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> travis, by the way, what are you hauling today? >> i don't know. >> just something in the back. >> yeah. >> thanks a lot. one regular american speaking truth to power. >> there you go. >> heather nauert now waiting in the wings for a look at what else is making headlines. >> good morning. i've got news from overseas and from israel this morning. the cease fire taking effect earlier this morning and over the next three days. delegations from israel and hamas will meet in cairo to try to work out some sort of a long-term truce. this as israeli ground troops have pulled out of gaza. their mission of destroying 32 hamas tunnels is now complete. sean hannity on the show earlier saying that there could be a lot more tunnels than that. he got an inside look at some of those tunnels and here is what he told us earlier. >> but if you look at the top of the tunnel, you have prepared literally formed pieces of cement. the walls were reinforced, concrete cement. they had tracks literally on the bottom so that they can bring the materials in and obviously as they're digging, they can bring the ground out. >> since the fighting began almost a month ago, nearly 1900 palestinians have died. that's according to palestinian aids groups and 67 israelis have been killed. a desperate search is underway in washington state for a missing six-year-old girl. she was last seen on saturday when she went to bed. her parents didn't report her missing until a day later when she didn't show up for dinner. they say that she often roams the neighborhood completely on her own. >> she went to bed, was asleep. wake up. she probably out running and playing. >> both parents have taken lie detector tests and allowed police to search their home. child protective services removed two of their other children. it's unclear at this point why. but we will keep watching that story for you. a mississippi law maker trying to use divine intervention to try to start the deadlocked congress. republican congressman just delivered all 535 members in the house and senate with a bible, along with this letter, saying, quote, on a daily basis, we contemplate policy decisions that impact america's future, recommendations help us make informed decisions. however, i find the best advice comes through meditating on god's word. and do you remember that justin bieber song "baby" that came out four years ago? if you're like a lot of us, you probably found it a little unbearable. ♪ baby, baby, baby oh, baby ♪ baby, baby, baby, oh, >> here is the song it's unbearable. a russian fisherman saying the pop star saved his life. that guy was being attacked by a bear when his phone went off. the ring tone on his phone was that song "baby." the man says the bear got scared and then ran away. and who can blame him? a big burly russian. >> his walls are plastered with posters. >> it reminds me of my father-in-law. he has a cabin in the woods. when we walk around the cabin, we have to blow a whistle to keep the bears away. going to use the bieber song from now on. >> what's his ring tone? >> thank you. things are ratcheting up across the globe. shaky cease fires in the middle east. after a month of fighting in gaza, other conflicts include a clashes between the ukraine and russia, growing threat of isis, and there is also renewed fighting in afghanistan. now amid all the chaos, there is some sobering news for our u.s. forces. >> get this, while all that is going on, 550 army majors are being pink slipped while some of them are still deployed in a war zone. our next guest says cutting our most experienced troops is leaving our country very vulnerable at a precarious time. >> pete hegseth is the ceo for concerned veterans for america and a veteran of the iraq and afghanistan wars. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> these pink slips coming after another slash of 1200 captains and getting these pink slips while they're serving. is this the best time to be doing this at all? this world seems to be getting more dangerous? >> the world is getting more dangerous. the last thing a major needs is a pink slip saying within 30 days of this date, you have to be home and out of the military. think about majors. they've been in for ten to 15 years. that is the longevity of the conflict we've been in since 9-11. these are your most experienced officers. they've been platoon leaders and company commanders. they've seen the enemy firsthand on the battlefield. they're going to be our future leaders. because we're right sizing the force, because the president wants to chop our military in order to maintain a smaller force, you got to cut majors and so the army is doing what it has to do in a tighter budget environment. >> and there is always going to be pink slips that come at certain times. it's just the way the military works. but to have so many at such kind of a scary time, given the fact that there are people all around the world who want to kill us and we're essentially going to have a brain drain. >> absolutely. and what we're creating is what i would call high risk force. are we still going to be the most powerful military in the world? yes. most technologically advanced? yes. can you scale up quickly again? you can't just recreate another major or another lieutenant colonel. the cuts we're making now will be saddled on the backs of future commanders in chief who will face future threats in a world that's getting more dangerous without 550 majors and 1200 captains. >> let's talk about the threats. we're talk being multiple threats in a complex world. we announced to the world that we can't handle multiple threats. we can't handle multiple theaters of war. >> that's right. >> so now are we trying to bring our forces down to a preworld war ii level? is that accurate? i've heard that description. >> yeah. we'll have the smallest land force, combat force since world war ii in our military. our combat air force will be the smallest it's been ever and less technologically advanced as far as the time frame. we are creating a force that reflects budget cuts, not strategy and not threats. this administration passed a review that said we can no longer fight two at the same time. it's fight one -- >> we announced that to the world. we wonder why vladimir putin does what he does. they read that and they calculate it. >> emboldening our adversary. >> and leaving our allies out there to dry. you've seen netanyahu making calculations today based on america, he can't count on. >> what do you think this will do to morale for people serving now and also for little johnny who might want to grow up and be a soldier one day and then see this? >> let's say that gavin walked out with a pink slip for you right now and said just continue the rest of the show. that's necktively what you're telling these majors. here is a pink slip, but we want you to finish this time and then good luck finding a job. the military is not a jobs program. there is places where we can be more efficient in the way we spend. but to do this this way in the time of war sends a signal to the individual and the enemy that we're not serious about those threats. >> i know you never like to talk to the pentagon and tell them what they should be doing. but do you have a better idea on how to save some money, which they've got to do because we've got to take the money that we've got at the pentagon and put it in other programs. what would do you instead? >> you can start with processes like acquisitions reform. the way we procure new weapon systems, new missile, new planes. we spend billions more than we should. it takes years longer than we should because it's a process that was started under the eisenhower adds managers and has -- administration and has never been reformed. our group is going to try to help them actually achieve this so that we cut the fat to keep the muscle. you keep the major, you lose the waste. it's not just waste. it's processes. there is things that need to be remind. the money is there to be found if you need to. but right now we're doing it arbitrarily. we're chopping people, personnel, which is the quickest, easiest way, but not the smartest way. >> change the system. >> that's right. >> captain pete hegseth reporting for duty on the curvy couch. >> thank you so much. fox news alert to tell you about. ebola scare in new york city. another infected american arrives back in georgia. we are live where the plane is about to land. and you know her from a little show called "bay watch." but she has a new game now. actress and host of the game show "the chase," brook burns is testing our trivia skills. in studio e. good morning to you. ♪ ♪ four wholesome grains. sugar. only six? six grams of sugar? that's really good. excellent, delicious... and yummy! honey bunches of oats. tasty! yummy! we've got a knocks news alert. today the second american infected with the ebola virus that we know of will arrive in atlanta to continue treatment. this is the first american already there is said to be improving. waga reporter isrgia where the patient will land in a few hours. mark? >> reporter: that's right. that plane took off at 9:12 east coast standard time from africa. told us about it's an 11-hour flight, but that doesn't take into account possible refueling time. no word exactly when it will arrive here just outside of atlanta. when she does get here, she will be taken to emory university hospital by ground ambulance. it's a 19-mile trip. during that trip, she'll be in the hands of a specially trained unit that deals with these type of high risk transportations. once she gets to the hospital, she'll be placed in an isolation unit. one of only four isolation units of its kind in the enter -- entire country. this is down the hospital from the cdc. so they have experts from world renowned at their disposal. of course, she won't be the only one being treated in that unit. dr. kent brantley was brought in over the weekend, also suffering from ebola. he has shown some signs of recovery. she's also shown some signs of recovery. it's possible that that is resulting from an experimental drug that they both have been given. at this point they say it's too early to tell exactly if that's causing this, but they're hopeful this could possibly lead to some kind of breakthrough as far as treating this particular illness. we are told that nancy writebol can walk with some assistance. she has regained her appetite, even asking for her favorite food, liberian potato soup and some coffee. of course, there has been some controversy with them bringing these two patients to the united states and specifically atlanta. some people saying they could be putting the public at risk. we talked with health officials who say that's not the case. we're reporting live from dobbins air base in marietta, georgia, fox news. >> thank you very much. and when the next patient does land, you'll see it live right here on fox. you know her from the hit tv show "baywatch" and this beach babe is putting her beauty and brains together on the game show network's most popular trivia shows called" the chase." >> british version of this show, he's already destroyed over 400 contestants. >> and now she's putting all of us to the test. >> joining us is host of "the chase," brook once. good morning. >> good morning. >> the way this works, there is the beast, this british guy who is literally a genius and he takes on three americans at a time. how does the rest go? >> the amazing mark, who i affectionately call beastie, does he have a near photographic memory. that's part of the reason i love going to work every day is because it's like going to work with a computer. and you learn so much. he takes on three american contestants. they play for up to $250,000. they try to make it individually through speed rounds and multiple choice trivia rounds and then come together at the end to try to beat him if a final two minute speed trivia place. >> i just got it, beauty and the beast. right? >> there have been comments made once in a while. >> you were saying a minute ago that you didn't think you would ever do a game show even though you've got a tictac toe. >> it's kind of hashtaggish. young kids are like, that's a hashtag, right? oh, yeah. >> how would you like to quiz us? >> i would like to ask you a couple of questions. >> we've got our paddles ready. >> which beverage is fluorescent under -- >> start with this one here. >> all right. you want me to ask it here? >> yep. >> okay. these celebrities, who is the only one to win a competitive oscar? was it ringostar, alfred hitchcock or drew barrymore? >> i'm going to b. >> and the correct answer is ringo star. >> he won a competitive oscar? >> isn't that crazy? >> yeah. >> here is another one. which golfer is the only person to win more major golf championships than tiger woods? jack nicholas, arnold palmer or ben hogan? >> oh, boy. >> come on. any golf fans? any golf fans? >> we got a, b and c here. >> it's a! good job! >> all right. steve. and next question, which beverage is fluorescent under ultraviolet light because it contains quinine. >> i know this. >> justin bieber. >> no. i know the answer to this. >> it's tonic water. >> ding, ding, ding! tonic water is the correct answer. here we g. fourth question, which rock band got its name because half the band was english and half the band was american? ac/dc, foreigner, or journey? >> i have no idea. now you see what our contestants have to go through? >> journey! >> whoa! >> it is foreigner. >> why was the wrong answer given to me? >> that's the trick. they get no help. it's all timed. even people who are trivia -- very savvy and do trivia all the time, they get really nervous on set with the lights and the cameras and the pressure of the live audience and everything. it's a difficult game. >> check it out on game show network "the chase." >> i think you have a chance on the show, steve. >> thank you very much. tuesdays at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. thank you very much. >> steve won. >> he did! you're the winner! >> i cheated. >> you want your 250 grand, right? >> yes, i do. caught on camera, a jet ski flying out of control. >> oh, my god. is she okay? >> how crazy is that? the split second reaction that saved that woman's life coming up next. >> and this is what 95% humidity will do to your hair. in honor of anti-frizz month, maria molina is learning now ways to tame your mane next when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. and when alan gets all powered up, ya know what happens? 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>> we hear about these near misses all the time. this one, she is so lucky with just seconds to spare, she gets off the jet ski and out of the way. you can see a guy and the girl on the other jet ski as they fly through the air after the crash. amazingly, everyone walked away okay. glad to hear that. he was the director of one of the nationest most popular marching bands. we all know this one. ♪ ♪ >> that is ohio state and the university's band director speaking out for the first time since he was fired over allegations that he knew about but failed to stop what was called a sexualized culture of rituals inside that band. among the findings of a two-month investigation, students marching in their underwear, written quizzes for new members. he says his dismissal was based on a, quote, very flawed report and he now wants a second chance. >> the culture in our band is entrenched. and because it's entrenched, it doesn't turn on a dime. i was aware and i took great steps to eliminate them. we had this report cite things that happened before my leadership of the band. i love ohio state and i would love an opportunity to work with the university to improve the culture. >> ohio state loved its band. waters became director in 2012. army sergeant chris melendez lost his leg in iraq when he was just 19 years old. that did not stop him from fulfilling one of his life long dreams of becoming a professional wrestler. he makes his debut tonight. he stopped by here earlier and talked about achieving this incredible goal. >> the key i think helped me a lot as i said before, is my training in the military, just having that military mentality and you can't feel sorry for yourself. that's the key. you can't get down on yourself. >> his first big match airs on september 11. congratulations to him. what an inspiration he is for so many of our wound warriors. >> that's cool. >> anna talked to him earlier. >> tonight is when he's actually going to be having his first match. then it will air on september 11. so obviously the significance is pretty important for him. >> absolutely. heather, thank you very much. we've got kind of a troubling story when you actually think about the top lawman in the united states of america is our attorney general, right? well, it turns out eric holder, our attorney general, revealed to juan woman's something very, very -- williams something very, very troubling. he's not just a referee trying to interpret the law, peter johnson, jr. he is an activist. >> he says he's an activist. here is what he said to juan williams. if you want to call me an activist attorney general, i will proudly accept that label. any attorney general who is not an activist is not doing his or her job. the responsibility of the attorney general is to change things and bring us closer to ideals expressed in our founding documents, to change things. i thought it was to enforce the law and to prosecute people who do wrong and engage in civil litigation as well? judge andrew napolitano was here earlier this morning and he really articulately and eloquently talked about the role of the attorney general and eric holder. >> to look at the law, to look at human behavior, decide whether it's legal or not, decide whether there is evidence or not to prosecute independent of the ideological wishes of the president. that's the reason to have an attorney general. we connote activists with someone who injects their own ideology and uses that as a guidepost in exercising the official power of the government. that's not what we want. >> also asked if eric holder would be unhappy looking back, if it was a good idea to use the word activist when being interviewed and he said yeah, i think he's probably going to wish he had never said that. but in the piece it seems he thinks activist is a badge of honor. he's also been called president obama's heat shield, talk being things that the president can't easily talk about. >> we've got an activist president. why wouldn't we have an activist attorney general? >> activist usually connotes something political, someone involved in a political way trying to change things. he indicated he's trying to change things as an attorney general. what do you think? is that the role of an attorney general? enforce the law or to activate some sea change perhaps of a political nature? >> all right. it's 20 minutes before the top of the hour. we have dispatched our own maria molina out to the streets, 48th and ofth avenue. she joins us live with i think weather and a frizz quiz? >> yeah, that's right. let's get get to the weather forecast. i want to talk about bertha. yesterday this storm was upgrade to do a hurricane. now just a tropical storm, maximum sustained winds at 65 miles per hour. it is forecast to remain away from the east coast of the united states. of course, this is great news. temperature wise, highs in the 90s across the plains and to the southeast. upper 80s in new york city. so we are on that warming trend. as far as rain goes, we do expect heavy rain across parts of the northern plains. several inches expected out there. and some showers and storms as well across parts of south florida. now i want to switch gears a little bit. did you know that august is national anti-frizz month? that's according to vo 5 and year after year, i've been suffering with frizzy hair and one example was on hair. i was with you on this assignment at the big daddy golf classic. it was 95% humidity that day. we started out the day just fine. by the end of it, your hair was fine, but mine was not. this is a before and after. you can see there on your screen. yeah. so they gave me this poll. they gave me all these products because they felt bad and we learned how to combat my frizzy hair and make everything a lot better. >> thank goodness. >> actually. >> you look awful in that picture, maria. >> one here in my pocket. don't leave here without it. they told me that 75% of women that they polled do look at the weather forecast to determine how frizzy their hair could potentially be. i went ahead and made your frizz cast and across parts of the southeast is going to be higher humidity. so there is a higher chance for some frizz. that's going to be the story as well across portions of the plains. >> this is your frizz quiz? >> no. that's supposed to be a map. it's a full screen. so you can see where there is going to be higher humidity in the southeast and across the plains. now for your frizz quiz. there you go. there is your frizz cast. now let's go ahead and hit those three questions that we want to ask you. these are true or false. here is the first one, how drying your hair can help tame frizz? is that true or false? >> absolutely true. >> it's false. peter, it's false. >> it's false. >> if you towel dry it too much, then you start to create some frizz. >> what about a blow drier? can it burn my hair? >> you got to be careful, peter. the second question is, brushing your hair can lead it breakage and frizz? is that true or is that false? >> that's true, especially if you have hair spray. >> anna, you are right. it's true. >> it happens. the higher the hair, the closer to god. >> i find hot oil treatment is my best friend. >> peter johnson, jr., all right. thank you very much. maria, thank you very much for the frizz quiz. meanwhile, fox news alert. fighter jets have just been scrambled to escort a passenger plane into manchester airport near london. officials say the pilot radioed about a possible device on board the jet liner. this is a picture of the plane before it landed. right now the plane is on the ground and police are responding to the scene. we don't know where the plane was coming from yet. but some reports say it came from the middle east. we're working on getting those details and we will bring you more right after our brief timeout. >> we know there are increased alerts at the european airports in terms of these newer devices that are not susceptible to being picked up on conventional devices. >> today is an election day. coming up, four states heading to the polls. a look at the hot races and what they mean for the balance of power in washington. a live report straight ahead. and apparently this kid interviewed on local news is going viral on the super net. he says apparently, apparently, apparently. it's easy to see why. >> they're blowing, i've never been on live television before, but apparently sometimes i don't watch the news because i'm a kid life with crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis is a daily game of "what if's". what if my abdominal pain and cramps come back? 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[ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. good morning. fox news alert. fighter jets just scrambled to escort a passenger plane into manchester airport near london. officials saying the pilot radioed about a possible device on board. this is a picture of the plane before it landed. >> we don't know where the flight originated from, but some reports say it came somewhere from the middle east. >> let's listen to our partners in the u.k. right now, sky news. >> should there be a problem with the aircraft and its electronic flight control system navigation system, for example, then the typhoons could literally bring the aircraft into the runway. that didn't need to happen in this case as far as we can see, the aircraft is now down on the ground and that a disbursal at manchester, designed to be able to take these airplanes, emergency services from not just the airport, but from the surrounding area. all of those people will be there. it's a well-practiced plan which is used so occasionally, perhaps once a year somewhere in the united kingdom. >> now that the plane is on the ground, is the job done? will they go back? >> yes. the royal air force have done their bit. the first line of defense. the primary role of the royal air force is the air defenses of the united kingdom. and so they have fulfilled that part of the bargain. it's now over to -- depends how far up the chain this has gone, but this is now a police matter once aircraft is on the ground. probably in the hands of the ctu, counter terrorist unit, which will be involved in man chester and if necessary, there are army units in the explosive ordinance disposal which could be called in. and the royal air force has its own bomb disposal team as well. if it's an aviation related matter. it's all about judging who was the best responder to this, who can deliver the best and the quickest solution to bringing the situation back to normal. >> the latest beyond our getting it from manchester is flights in and out of the airport are being diverted. we had one eyewitness said that he could see no planes coming in or out of manchester airport while this operation was underway. that seems to be a concern that flights are being diverted and other flights will be using the airports. the plane at the end of the runway. at the airport itself, the third largest airport in the country, it's been evacuated there to ensure the safety of those at the airport who are waiting for their flights. joining us in studio, sam kyle kylely. this flight came from qatar. you were saying security would have been very tight, wouldn't it, on one of these planes? >> yeah. it would be. the flights out of the middle east are very, very tight because of the history of hijacking out of the middle east, which has not been repeated too often. there is an attempt in the more recent past has been to smuggle bombs in underpants, shoes, precisely because it has been so effective. none the less, there are also, of course, all kinds of political tensions at work. we've seen people trying to seek asylum by hijacking aircraft in the past. in other words, with no real intent to blow them up, but simply to get out of the country they're in at that time. this took off in dohar, there is certainly fairly authoritarian structure. there aren't enough qataris to generate very much an opposition. it's a wealthy country in any case. those areas are much less problematic. i think it's likely that this -- once an incident like this goes on, something gets reported, perhaps a member of the crew reports to the pilot, the expert was saying you then go into a protocol. it doesn't end until it ends. you don't suddenly halfway through say oh, no, we've changed our mind. we didn't think it was suspicious after all. if you hit that red button, that goes right through to the point at which the very least, the passengers are evacuated. >> but the pilots and the crew also have training to know that they don't hit that red button until they have a really strong suspicion. >> they can't afford to be jumpy, but also can't afford to be complacent. >> we are watching sky news, our sister network over in the united kingdom now because manchester airport is on full alert. just a little while ago, at least one royal air force typhoon escorted in apparently a qatari airways plane. the pilot had radioed that there was a possible suspicious device on board and therefore, the escort plane was called. currently no takeoffs or landings at manchester airport. they are on full alert. there you can see the typhoon escorting the qatari jet liner into manchester. let's listen in some more to sky news to figure out what's going on over there. >> since you became aware of the plane being escorted in, you first said -- we're trying to get these pictures to you and 46 minutes ago seeing they're being escorted. he then also tweeted saying okay, i'm not worried and continued to tweet. he did say that emergency services were on the runway and as they were due to land, he seems completely unaware of what was actually happening. he says that we've landed, but not entire leisure what is happening. his most recent update suggested that there are emergency services around the plane and that the royal police are outside the plane. so it does seem as we suggested, the plane has most certain leelanded and that there are certainly police and what looks like from this picture fire engines, which have surrounded the plane we think at the end of the runway, so away from the terminal buildings, and josh hartley, the passenger board suggesting there were armed police outside. he's also tweeted a picture of what looks like passengers walking around inside. so we're not entire leisure what's happening inside that plane, about it seems that there is a response from the different agencies on the runway. >> it does also -- if this is a genuine photo cam, it does seem to also confirm that flight has come from dohar. >> indeed it does. before he took off. in fact, he's responding to people on social media to say that's where it came from. but it doesn't seem like there is necessarily panic on board. but it also doesn't seem like they were informed necessarily of what was happening. it seems that they spotted this typhoon jet outside the plane. he seemed to have turned on his phone and tweeted it. but from this most recent picture, passengers seem to be walking around inside. >> as you're talking to us, these are the shots that we have taken from josh hartley's twitter account. you can see that from the air bus window. you can see the typhoon there and the countryside surrounding manchester in the background. we also have some shots of inside the plane. i don't know if we'll be able to bring you those as well. we can also see the emergency services on the runway. we can see police and fire and a large number of fire engines. we'll try and bring you those as soon as we can. let's bring in -- >> just to say he's just tweeted again. the passengers are still on the plane and there does seem to be several more police cars around the plane. though the plane itself doesn't seem terribly far away from other aircraft, certainly -- >> darren, what do we know about what's actually happening at the airport? >> as far as we know, the airport has in effect been effectively evacuated to a degree. we know the viewing platform, that glass platform where you see aircraft take off, people have been moved away because of what police say is they're trying to protect the security and they say people should not be alarmed. of course, the major focus has been on flights. if you look at departures and arrivals board, almost every plane has been delayed. most planes are now being diverted to lees bradford airport because of this incident. we've now got moving footage of that plane about to land. the airport itself and as i said, we don't think it's been wholey evacuated, but in some sense of emergency planning situation that we always have in place for such situations. we know that police, services and armed police are on the airfield around the airplane at this time trying to deal with what they say is a comprehensive portion safety measure. what also seems clear is that the passengers on board have not left the plane itself. they seem to still be on board and to a degree, wholey unaware of what's happening apart from probably turning on their mobile phones and following what we're talk being and what other people on social media are talking about. >> we have seen some images from the passengers aboard these aircraft showing the emergency services on the runway. i saw one of them from a young man saying that armed police were outside the cabin. >> yeah, indeed. we know that -- as i said, this man seems to have turned on his phone when he spotted these typhoons outside the plane and have said there are armed police outside the aircraft. certainly looking at another picture, he's just tweeted, we can see police vehicles on the runway next to the plane. the plane itself doesn't seem to be near a building from the angle that it's been shot at. but it seems near to other aircraft. it seems this tweet was sent five minutes ago. passengers themselves still seem to be on board. as i say, certainly on the approach in we're certain -- were unaware of what was happening. >> let's bring in chris yates who we often call on in circumstances sufficient as this. of course, particularly with security. hello to you, chris. limited information at this stage. what are you making of what you've seen so far? >> limbed information indeed -- limbed informations a qatari je. the information coming in to me appears to be that the jet passed some information which seems to activate all of these measures going on at the moment. the jets guiding the aircraft in. the hold of the aircraft on the runway until such time as it can be cleared for an approach either to terminal building or literally left on the runway for a period of time. the emergency services now will be clearing off the aircraft, well, valley clearing off the aircraft from passengers. it's likely that as that is taken up to the aircraft to bring people down and those people will be obviously interrogated, questioned very carefully as indeed that process goes on. >> stand by if you would. i want to bring in alister rosenshine, has friend of the program, a former pilot. hello to you. so talk us through the protocol. what happens in circumstances such as this, presumably one of the cabin crew will make the pilot aware that there is some incident and then what happens? >> hello, yes. the flight crew, either by cabin crew or air traffic control, depending on how the device, if there is such a thing, has been found or located on the aircraft, and the protocol would be to make air traffic control aware and to -- >> this has been extraordinary. the pilot radioed. they found perhaps a device on board that qatari airways and this morning we've actually seen through social media pictures from inside the plane. we're going to be covering this story right now on "america's newsroom". bill: thank you, guys. breaking news. we are tracking it as best we can from new york. i'm bill hemmer. one royal air force typhoon jet escorting a flight back to plan chester or toward manchester airport northwest of london. the pilot radioed in there was a suspicious device on board. it seems to be a qatari airlines plane. there were reports it originated in doha. we can't confirm that. manchester is executing what has been practices and

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life. that's why you treat a disease, you win, you lose. you treat a person. i guarantee you, you win. >> those are the things i miss the most. little idio sing crassies that i know about. that is what made my wife and she had the goods on me too. she knew all of my little peckadillos. people call these perfections. but they are not. that's the good stuff. you are here and life exists and an identity. the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse. the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse. >> some of the powerful lines spoken by robin williams, an entertainment genius who commanded the spotlight from stand-up comedy clubs to oscar winning films. >> it's hard to think of anybody as naturally funny as robin williams. he was wild. he was free-willing and better at improv than anybody and it left audience barrel over in laughter. while his performance broke barriers in the series of leading roles, he was a deeply funny and deeply complicated man. >> and deeply troubled as well. the comedian and movie star gave us characters full of warmth and life from "mrs. doubtfire" to "the dead poet's society." >> a personal struggle and deep challenges he dealt with depression for years and reportedly checking in a clinic as recently as july and a publicist said he had been battling deep depression. >> he was found dead in his home in california yesterday. an parent suicide. he was 63 years old and apparently there is a news conference this morning with details on how this happened. good morning, everyone. it is tuesday, august 12th. bus on set we have "morning joe" contributor mark halpern and the host of "way too early" thomas roberts and willie geist. >> from the time in 1978 that he burst on to the scene, it was amazing. "mork and mindy" went on the air and a couple of weeks later it was an instant hit. it was an instant hit because of him. it's hard to believe in these days that any television show would have 50 million, 60 million people watching every single week and they did and they did because of robin williams. >> because you almost were transfixed watching his comedic talent and they left a lot of room for him in the script just to ad-lib because he was that good. >> willie, he was a comedian like no other before him and he broke the mold. you look at jimi hendrix playing the guitar. there was nobody like jimi hendrix before jimi hendrix and never been anybody sense and the same with robin williams. nobody has been like him. >> i missed "mork and mindy." my first experience with robin williams was "good morning vietnam." i remember that singular performance and knowing how much of that had been ad-libbed and to watch one man carry a movie that way and to go on these extended rifts where you're watching the other characters in the movie break up laughing for real what robin williams is doing. he had a lot more dramatic performances that had nothing to do with his comedy chops. "dead poet's society" and "good will hunting." he could so so many things. >> i remember for the first time soon after he started doing movies i think his second movie was "world according to garp." he was funny in it but also very complicated and very sad at times. i remember being shocked at his range. >> there is a tremendous outpowering of grief and shock following word of williams death. his wife says i lost my husband and best friend while the world lost one of its most beloved artists and beautiful human beings. i'm utterly heartbroken. actors and artists with whom he worked took to twitter. steve martin called him a generous soul. even "sesame street" chimed in. to what it means to be alive. even president obama reflekcted saying robin williams was a airman, a doctor, a genie, a nanny, a president, a professor and everything in between. williams body of work is staggering in its scope and breadth from his time raising money for the homeless on comic relief to the most provocative performances in cinema. robin williams was an entertainer in the classic sense of the word. >> bad men distance dance the on field. >> reporter: a stand-up comedian and broadway performer and one of the most successful and tv and movie stars of any generation. he was a master of impressions. >> you remember john wayne going, well, is this a dagger i see before me? >> reporter: and delighted the impressionable. >> there is lots of things you can do with a stick. you can start off and be playing baseball in the world series or you can be gene shalit or pinocchio. >> reporter: his breakthrough came as mork. >> my name is mork. nanana. >> reporter: it drew 60 million viewers every week. and provided a national audience for his genius. >> i can't let you pass up a chance like me, honey. >> stop it! mork, will you help me? >> if you insist. mind if i cut in? thank you. >> reporter: but it wasn't long before he turned his attention to more serious projects, waking up the world in "good morning vietnam." >> in saigon today according to officials nothing actually happened. one thing that didn't happen is a bomb didn't explode 14 hours unofficially destroying jimmy's cafe. >> get him out of there! >> reporter: he mixed the phonetic and the funny. >> you do fossey, fossey, fossey and. >> reporter: with the deeply philosophical. >> the poet. the beauty. romance! love! these are what we stay alive for. >> reporter: he was a regular at the academy awards taking home an oscar in 1998, his only one for his role in "good will hunting." >> you don't know about real loss because that only occurs when you love something more than you love yourself. i doubt you ever dare to love anybody that much. >> reporter: according to publicist, williams had been battling severe depression and going to rehab in 2006. >> i went to rehab in wine country. >> are you happy? were you unhappy before you went in? >> i was pretty much everything before i went in and now it's great just to have genuine emotions and being all right with that. >> reporter: his roles were as complex and as playful as the man himself exploring some of humanity's darkest chapters and along with our greatest triumphs and above all else, he made us laugh. >> a lot of voices we want to bring in this morning. mike hogan of "vanity fair" and brian steinberg. thank you both for being up e g early with us. i was struck by twitter reading the outpowering of support and not just fans but the hollywood community from comedy to drama and felt like he touched everybody. >> absolutely. one of the things so amazing is right out of the gate at the beginning of his career, robin williams was kind of coming out of a world of underground comedy of improv and saying a lot of irrev representative things and acting pretty much totally crazy and people immediately embraced him. i think there was a sincerity underneath all of that manic energy that people grabbed on to right away and responded to and that is what you see. now with this outpouring of grief everybody from the academy to "sesame street" to the president of the united states feeling this loss in a way that is unusual. >> brian, another thing that struck me reading the reaction was how everyone had a different project. it wasn't like it was just one or two movies that jumped out. we had some people say my kids loved him as popeye or the voice of aladdin or the deeper roles where he was nominated for oscars. he just had a truly an incredible range to him. >> i think that is right. this is a guy that could really play a great despair or humor as equal intensity and a rare find in hollywood to have somebody do those things both at the same time. >> speaking of ad-libbing. robin williams was known for ad-libbing in almost every role he's ever taken. in the animated film "aladdin" it was rumored 16 hours of recording from his recording sessions kind after nightmare but kind of what brilliance comes from. he improvised him so much the academy award turned down the film for best adapted screen play. look at this. >> you're going to grant me any three wishes i want, right? >> almost. a couple of quid pro quo. >> like? >> rule number one. i can't kill anybody, so don't ask. rule number two. i can't make anybody fall in love with anybody else. you little fun man! rule number three! i can't bring people back from the dead! it's not a pretty picture! and i don't like doing it! other than that, you got it. >> provisos, you mean limitations, wishes? some unpowerful genie. can't even bring people back from the dead. i don't know, abu. he probably can't even get us out of this cave. looks like we are going to have to find a way out of here. >> excuse me? are you looking at me? did you rub my lamp? did you wake me up? did you bring me here? and, all of a sudden, you're walking out on me? i don't think so! not right now! you're getting your wish so sit down! >> amazing. his mind is so fast when he is ad-libbing. like nobody out there. >> to go from that you see that and there is a line what he did on "mork and mindy." and to go from that something like "garp" or "good will hunting" and "what dreams may come." >> you can see he was most comfortable when he was ad-libbing and that is really when he was at his best. he also, we're hearing a lot of stories now about what a good guy and what a good friend he was. he had this long relationship with christopher reeves. he attended the premiere of "good morning vietnam." that with would earn him an academy award nomination. after his accident that left him paralyzed in 1995 it was robin williams who helped nurse the actor's spirit. he showed up at the hospital dressed in scrubs head-to-toe and reeves recalled the interview from 1998. >> i was so struck by your obvious deep, deep friendship with robin williams at the creative coalition event. >> he was the first one to show up down in virginia when he was really in trouble. he came here one afternoon and just -- thank god i wear a seat belt in this chair because i would have fallen out laughing. in the middle of a tragedy like this, in the middle of recuperation, you can still experience genuine joy and laughter and love and anybody says life is not worth living is totally wrong, totally wrong. >> this was as christopher reeves was going in for surgery doctors said he had a 50/50 chance coming out of it and he was on his bed and the door forces open. robin williams saying i'm your proctologist and just a couple of things before your surgery. >> thomas, what is your memory of robin williams? >> i have to think back to "mork and mindy." that is what my sister and i watched as kids. mork showed up on "happy days." that was then a spin-off that he got. jonathan winters was his hero who showed up as his kid on "mork and mindy." and mork was the one that got pregnant after they got married! and egg showed up in the attic. the egg from ork and jonathan winters comes down and he's the baby. >> crazy. >> fantastic. but you were talking about the ad-libbing, willie. he was known for that. when we see the opening scenes of "mrs. doubtfire" is the voiceover artist and actor who gets fired from a job because he doesn't like the way the cartoon is going and the bird is smoking. pudgy, the bird, oh, no i'll get a cancer. no, pudgy is going to smoke but i don't want to send kids the message this kid is going to smoke. he gets canned from the job and ends up as his own kids' nanny dressed in drag. there was talks he was going to make "mrs. doubtfire 2." but he will live you forever. these films for kids and adults he touched so many lives. >> mark, what about you? >> for me stand-up and appearances on late night talk shows and award shows. he was come in and explode any appearance he was on. you can watch lots of them on youtube as i did some last night and this morning where he just came on improv, interaction and a phenomenal genius. one other thing we haven't talked about much yet. he did kill himself. what struck me is no one is surprised. no one is surprised that he killed himself because he lived pretty openly about his addiction and his troubles. it's sad and a lot of talk about helping people around the world today who deal with the substance abuse and depression he had. >> that is a thing -- there was something about him when you saw him in "mork and mindy." but if you see him in "garp," if you see him in "good will hunting." in so many of these roles, you know, there was something very real, there was something very funny about the guy, but also something very sad. i read in "the new york times" this morning, i had no idea as a child, they talk about how he grew up in detroit a privileged son of a detroit auto executive that lived in a mansion and played by himself in a room with thousands of toy soldiers and there was just sort of this sadness that went along with the joy and, you're right, nobody was surprised. for all of us who have seen people and known people that have struggled with depression or struggled with bipolar disorder or any of these mental health challenges, we understand what a battle it is just to get through the day and he did so many -- like a lot of great artists, he used his suffering and he used his daily challenges and put it in -- i think it made him a greater artist, a more sensitive artist, a more feeling artist, but it also, of course, led to a life of struggle. >> yeah. he was able to exude such extreme elation and pleasure and joy and humor and also the depth of pain in his work. everyone talks about his range and that obviously those extremes plagued his life as well. he talked about his own struggle using drugs and alcohol using it actually as material for his stand-up. >> this is whaty i had to give alcohol because you have to pay the next day. dear lord, please don't hurt me now. lying in bed and you feel like the scenes in the movie going, help me! help me! the entire room is spinning like a roulette wheel. place your bets! place your bets! the old toilet in the corner going, "talk to me!" here is a warning sign if you have a cocaine problem. if you have only a couch in and your cat is going [ bleep ] me too. you can't fall asleep and doing cocaine in your sleep and can't fall asleep and you wake up and you're doing cocaine, bingo. number three if on your form it says $50,000 for snacks, mayday! >> mike hogan, he speaks, obviously, from experience and in a way that connects with the vulnerable. >> yeah. absolutely. and, you know, it's just, once again, you see that there is this manicness that is pushing and kind of playing those high notes to try and almost distract you and him from something else that is a little darker underneath. i think that is what a lot of people are responding to today. but it also made him such a talented versatile actor where when he did dial it back down, you really got these very soulful performance like the one he won the oscar for in "good will hunting." >> brian, is there something that sticks out to you that you think he can be most reminded for? >> i'm reminded of an early '70s performance where he is talking about the comedy routine saying, oh, no, i'm doing it wrong. amazing stuff and very inventive and fertile mind that will not be duplicated any time soon. >> mike hogan and brian steinberg, thank you. we will have much more on the life and genius of robin williams throughout the show. president obama hits pause on his vacation to grating tcon the new prime minister in iraq. there is a problem. >> what is that? >> the old prime minister refuses to go away and calling the move illegal. later, mrs. say all options remain open in the fatal accident involving nascar driver tony stewart. could criminal charges be coming soon? first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> good morning on this tuesday. yesterday, we got soaked in detroit. it wasn't your normal soaking. they had over four inches of rain. the second most rain they had in their recorded history in one single day and their records go back to the 1800s. every highway in the city was flooded at one point. 4 1/2 inches of rain. it's drying out today but that slow moving soaker is now pushing east. we are going to see very heavy rain today. areas of new york, pennsylvania, and eventually shifting into the big cities on i-95. already the green on the map is light rain d.c. to baltimore and scranton area light rain. a closer view shows you right over the loop there around d.c. around 295 and 495. we do have a little bit of light rain but not the heavy stuff. that will come later today and maybe thunderstorms. if you have travel plans at the airports or the roads expect delays especially late today and tonight. new york city we are expecting as much as 3 inches of rain later this evening in a very, very slow wednesday morning commute because of those downpours. that is going to be moving out into areas of central new england by the time we get through wednesday. everything else around the country looks okay today but that travel trouble spot is on a busy i-95 corridor later today into tonight. 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>> i wonder. >> the u.s. is keeping up its assault on the militants launching strike on checkpoints and vehicles in northern iraq. american troops have now delivered more than 85,000 meals and 20,000 gallons of water to thousands of displaced desperate iraqis. a top member of the u.s. military is now warning the united states campaign will have a limited impact. >> we assess that u.s. air strikes in northern iraq have slowed isil's operation tempo and temporarily disrupted their advances toward the province of erbil. however, these strikes are unlikely to effect isil's overall capabilities off its operations in other areas of iraq and syria. >> let's bring in the bbc's katty kay. a lot of horse bleep going on out there. i think it fit in well on "morning joe." his foreign policy is defined as don't do stupid bleep and now on isis it's horse bleep that he could stop it. regardless of whatever it is, regardless of how we got here, looking forward is chaotic, not only for this president but this would be a challenge for like eisenhow eisenhower. there is chaos in the north and baghdad and everywhere. what is the next step? >> i think to push the iraqi government in baghdad which is why the president called the president designate in baghdad yesterday saying you have to find a political solution to that is going to satisfy the sunnis in this country. you have to deal with this. americans can strike the islamic state in the north with some success as they are doing but unless america is prepared to go into syria to really roll back long term probably by putting boots on the ground as well and get this organization really crushed, which it's not prepared to do. washington doesn't want to do that, then this is going to have to be a regional solution and an iraqi solution. america can't fix this problem. >> where is europe? where is germany? where is france? why does this always turn back to us? why does standing up to putin always turn back to us? it seems to us, it seems to some of us that europe, especially germany, is still on this vacation from history. it's not 1945. it's not 1991. why is it always on our shoulders? >> germany is a slightly different case and complicated case. since the world war ii they have a confrontation that forbids them from around the world. american led the invasion of iraq. it's the pottery barn rule. you went in, you did take a coalition of the sort of willing with you but only a sort of willing. no massive protests around europe against the invasion of iraq. europe has never been keen on a military -- they weren't in 2003. they are still not today. >> europeans are more in danger and closer to isis. whether you're talking about isis in iraq or whether you're talking about iran, this is a question -- >> they are watching these exact pictures that we are seeing at the moment of the helicopter aid drops. >> does europe thinking that this stays away from their doorstep? it is a virus, mark halpern, spreading across the middle east and i just wonder why the hell it's always black or white. it's the united states or it's nobody. if it goes well, well, then the united states, they did what they were supposed to do. if it goes badly, then we get, of course, criticized by germany and france and many others across the world. >> i'd say where is turkey and saudi arabia? united states is the indispensable nation. if the united states doesn't lead against jihadists, no one else will. i agree with you it's not ideal but that is the relate of the world. >> is it a sense in washington, d.c. the president has been shaken? >> personally shaken? >> no. out of some would consider his position that i'm going to define my foreign policy by not being dick cheney? >> well, dick cheney -- >> is this going to be two or three weeks of military activity or do you think this president, are you hearing this president is determined to do everything he can to stamp out the spreading terror out there? >> well, he is turning everybody else or almost everybody else into dick cheney. hillary clinton is sounding like dick cheney because there is two ways to do this. there is pay any price to deal with jihadists and terror around the world, or think through like a law professor every situation, do a cost benefit analysis, and be incremental. >> he is turning everyone else into dick cheney apart from the american public. >> and very important point, and we have heard again and again and again and again that the president also needs to be the, quote, explainer in chief. that fits here probably better than any of these other crises. >> let's ask the question of where is europe and this one as well to our next guest. joining us now from washington, "the new york times" reporter jeremy peters and also the former senior director at the national security council and now managing director at the washington institute, michael sing. we also have nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing live from martha's vineyard. >> chris, set it up for us. a busy day up there yesterday. what are we expecting today? >> reporter: there is no public schedule here and it's really interesting to watch what has been going on over the last, i don't know, 24 hours or so. when you saw the development of the push, the sort of final push. we have known that for a while, this administration has been really in the middle of what has been going on with iraq, they have been saying to the new president and members of parliament deeply involved you got to get a new prime minister in here. but what a contrast, right? yesterday on iraqi television, you've got nuri al maliki who essentially is setting up what looks like a potential coup. i can tell you that administration officials are very concerned about that. late yesterday, the president in what was supposed to be just a statement to the pool press and then they decided to do it on television the last minute. you saw the poor quality of it, you know, came out. doesn't mention nuri al maliki at all. and says this is good, we have a new person in place and this is how iraq is going to move forward, this is someone who can bring both sides together. so you have these incredibly competing visions one on iraqi television and one on american television, joe. >> nbc chris jansing, thank you very much. we appreciate it. let's go to jeremy peters on capitol hill. we heard katty talking about how the american people didn't support this. maybe that is why there is a deafening silence coming from capitol hill. i understand they spread out all over the country but in times of crises you would send a statement out from your capitol hill office. dead silence. especially, i must say from my republican brothers and sisters, that have been so critical of this president not taking action. we reached out yesterday and i know you did too to rand paul to try to get a comment from rand paul on where he stood. this is probably the most important national security issue, isis, over the past four or five or six years, and they refused comment to us. other republicans who have been deeply critical of president obama refused comment as well. what are you hearing on capitol hill? >> i think rand paul's silence is stemming from this problem that he is going to have if he runs for president in 2016. he will constantly be running against his father's legacy. he does not want to be portrayed as an isolationist. therefore, i think the less he says, the better on these type of things. >> would now be a great time for him to come out and say, i don't know, do something radical and actually support the president for going against a terrorist group that is spreading across the middle east like a virus? or is he just going wait until it goes badly like democrats did and then attack barack obama for doing what -- >> they would have done. >> what they would have done? >> i think part of what you said earlier about congress being in recess is actually very true. lawmakers think that they have a past now that they are out of washington and there aren't constantly cameras in their face asking them for comment. that is just going to be the fallback position a lot of these guys take. actually what i've been more struck by is the silence from democrats because the last thing that democrats on capitol hill want to have right now is another messy fight over a foreign entanglement. this is reminiscent. it happened a month ago where you saw democrats being very reluctant to commit to any sort of force in iraq. >> michael sing, the president has gone out of his way to say this air strike conducted in iraq was a limited one and just to preserve the humanitarian needs of a persecuted group stranded up on a mountain top there. what happens with the next group? is this just putting out one fire or more fires going to pop up that we have to take one by one, the united states and it will be forced to confront again? >> that is my concern about this is that, look. i'm glad the president has decided to final get more involved in what is happening there in the middle east. but the question is can this operation achieve very much? i'm not sure that it will succeed and we heard the pentagon talking about this yesterday even in stopping the isis advance, much less rolling them back or dealing them a blow. it doesn't really address that broader threat that isis poses, not only to this region, remember, they have attacked syria, lebanon and jordan and saudi arabia but also the threat to the united states itself. you got chuck hagel right now and john kerry in australia talking about the threat that the foreign fighters who have gone to fight with isis posed to our own countries. >> michael singh, thank you so much. still ahead on "morning joe," guess how much of u.s. postal service lost in three months of the second quarter. is it, a, 100 million? >> yeah, sounds right. >> they all seem high. >> b, 500 million or, c, 2 billion? we will have the correct answer next in papers. people close to tracy morgan say the actor is struggling nearly two months after his car accident. we will have an update on his condition next. more on the life and genius of robin williams. we will remember the funniest moments from his legendary contrary. we will be right back with much more "morning joe." >> what is this black liquid? >> this is coffee. >> what do you do with it? >> we have it with our breakfast. >> oh, allow me. oh, repulsive. >> i hate to admit this, but people here on earth get pretty hassled over anything they don't understand. >> why would anyone think i'm weird? they must build a new race. swim, swim. ♪ ♪ coming on the radio i heard ♪ at 1-800-dentist, we're about one thing. helping you find a dentist you'll want to go to for the rest of your life. we've helped over 8 million people find that dentist, and we can do the same for you. call 1-800-dentist today. ♪ call 1-800-dentist today. 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"genie, you're free." williams body of work is staggering from his time raising money for the homeless on comic relief to some of the most passionate and provocative performances in cinema. >> reporter: robin williams was an entertainer in the classic sense of the word. >> bad men distance dance the on field. >> reporter: a stand-up comedian and broadway performer and one of the most successful and tv and movie stars of any generation. he was a master of impressions. >> you can also imagine john wayne going, well, is this a dagger i see before me? >> reporter: and delighted the impressionable. >> there is lots of things you can do with a stick. you can start off and be playing baseball in the world series or you can be gene shalit or pinocchio. i have two academy awards, elmo! >> reporter: his breakthrough role came as mork on the sitcom "mork and mindy." >> my name is mork. nanana. >> reporter: it was said the producers would leave parts of the scripts blank to allow williams to ad-lib. it drew 60 million viewers every week. and provided a national audience for his genius. >> i can't let you pass up a chance like me, honey. >> stop it! mork, will you help me? >> if you insist. mind if i cut in? thank you. >> reporter: but it wasn't long before he turned his attention to more serious projects, waking up the world in "good morning vietnam." >> in saigon today, according to officials, nothing actually happened. one thing that didn't happen is a bomb didn't explode 14 hours unofficially destroying jimmy's cafe. >> get him out of there! >> reporter: his roles often pushed the envelope mixing the phonetic and the funny. >> you do fossey, fossey, fossey and graham, graham! >> reporter: with the deeply philosophical. >> the poetry. beauty! romance! love! these are what we stay alive for. >> reporter: he was a regular at the academy awards, taking home an oscar in 1998, his only one for his role in "good will hunting." >> you don't know about real loss because that only occurs when you love something more than you love yourself. i doubt you ever dare to love anybody that much. >> reporter: but according to a publicist, williams had been battling severe depression and going to rehab in 2006. >> i went to rehab in wine country. always a good choice. do detoxing in columbia. >> are you happy? were you unhappy before you went in? >> i was pretty much everything before i went in and now it's great just to have genuine emotions and being all right with that. >> reporter: his roles were as complex and as playful as the man himself, exploring some of humanity's darkest chapters, and along with our greatest triumphs and, above all else, he made us laugh. >> with us on set the producer and writer and host, james lipton. james, we love seeing you but it's certainly a sad occasion as it was a few months ago with philip seymour hoffman. >> we have to stop doing this. >> we really do. in this case, though, some of his best work was never caught on film but his manager says the performance that he turned in with you on your show was one of the greatest of his careers. >> yes, it was. he walked out on the stage in our actor drama school and students went wild and then he went wild. and finally after about six or seven minutes, i raised my hand. he said, what do you want? i said i want to ask my first question. >> let's see that. here is robin williams when he joined james on inside the actors studio. >> i came to bombay last year. you know i have directed 15 movies in bombay and very excited about my music al. is there a lovely musical called "who's sorry now?" i have written this magical thing and i do them and i have my other one that is binedy, binedy bow and teka, teka, tay. i would like to welcome you to iran! help me! >> james, you asked robin williams that famous question that you ask all of the actors during your interview at the studio. let's take a look at that. >> if heaven exists, what would you like to hear god say when you arrive at the pearly gates? >> there is seating near the front. the concert begins at 5:00. it will be mozart, elvis and one of your choosing. or just laughter. that would be a great thing, just to hear god goes, two jews walk into a bar. >> james, your thoughts on this extraordinary man. >> we have lost a genius. genius is very hard to define. genius do it naturally. it comes in their dna what we do with great effort and having to learn. robin was born to entertain us and he succeeded brilliantly. you mending steven spielberg a moment ago in the introduction. steelberg to spielberg told me when he was doing "schindler's list." every night he would call robin in los angeles and say, "make me laugh." that's a gift. >> it is a gift. he did it in such a way that when he first came on the scene in 1978 with a television show, two weeks, three weeks later, robin williams was a star. 60 million people would watch "mork and mindy." but none of us could have seen the type of performances that he turned in in "garp," which i think was an extraordinary performance very early in his career, all the way through "good morning vietnam," and a lot of these other shows. >> one of my favorite robin williams performance is in "aladdin," the genie. when he prepares aladdin for what is to come, he plays -- would you like to guess how many characters he played in that two and a half or three minutes as the genie? 52. 52 entirely unique discrete characters switching like that and was all improvised in front of an empty studio in front of a microphone. >> that is unbelievable. robin ad-libbed his way through the role of genie in "aladdin." let's take a look. >> in your corner now. every ammunition in your pant. you have a punch! shazam! all you got to do is rub that lamp. i'll say, mr. aladdin, sir, what will your pleasure be? let me take your other and jog it down. you never been like me. >> james, obviously, to brilliant there in "aladdin." we don't get to see the facial expressions of robin williams. that was in 1992 before "mrs. doubtfire" came out. i want to play the clip of you asking him inside the actor studio about heaven. you knew that sound bite was coming and you deflated a little bit. am i wrong? >> i'm sorry? what? >> just a second ago when you knew that question was coming about if heaven exists and he was about to answer it, you seemed like you had a visceral reaction to know what his answer is going to be. is it hard to know someday there is a more poignant relevance when you're surrounded at a table like this and we are discussing the brilliance of an actor like robin williams that they give an answer like that? >> if you had asked me then to predict that robin would predecease me, i would have laughed at you. no. there was no premonition in that. he was -- he was extraordinary. he walked out on the set and normally i wear my wings on the pilot airplane association and the symbol of it is wings and they sort of face down. he walked over to me and turned it upside down so that i would -- it would look right to him. i turned it back up. i said what are you doing? i said that is the way it goes. he said that is airplane association and he said the wings go down? that is like a parachute with most parachute. then he got up and he did five minutes on a drunken pilot. and the president of the airplane owners and pilots association called me a few days later and said, i'd like to open every jen aviation pilots meeting with that clip and he did. >> oh, my gosh. >> ever after that. wherever robin went, he left an indelible mark. >> he did. you asked robin about his personality and this was his response. >> no one is more famous than you for free flight exteroversion. is there an introverted robin williams? does he exist? oh, my god! what have i done? do not ask if he -- >> don't ask the introverted question. i'm feeling better! oh, god! you don't ask that! just because you fly! i got to pin. i fly! >> you just don't want to see the introverted robin williams. >> no, you don't. mika, james said something before that the genius is hard to define but that's genius. that is something you don't teach. >> no. >> that is something you're blessed with. this morning as i was getting up and reading a lot of different things and one of the things i saw that was fascinating to me there was a study of great musicians. they try to figure out if you were born with it or if it could be taught to you. and the conclusion was with identical twins was some people just have it in their genes. >> yeah. >> and identical twins are different. you can practice and you can become a better pianist. >> no, but this is different. >> but a genius. >> yeah. >> a genius gets to where they get with a lot of hard work but they start with something. again, i said earlier, jimi hendrix played guitar like nobody else in rock music and nobody else will ever play anything like him. robin williams is the same way as a comedian. there never was a robin williams before and there never will be another robin williams again. >> no, there won't be. he was unique, of course. there was some who inspired him greatly and who should be acknowledged today and that was jonathan winters. i worked with several times with johnny winters several times on the "bob hope show." he could do that. robin learned from him. he did learn that. but he had the genius that enabled him to use it and take it to even greater heights. that was an enormous influence on him and johnny should be a acknowledg acknowledged. >> you were talking about his background. i didn't realize this morning he was born the privileged son of an auto executive in detroit and lived a lonely existence in a mansion. he would play with thousands of toy soldiers by himself in a cavernous room and i guess lived in this room that developed over the years. i never knew that. there was melancholy in this man from his start. >> i lived in detroit and grew up in detroit but not the same part of detroit he did. not at all. i was in the inner city. we talked about that. but in the end, in the end, robin is pallechi. the cliche of the clown was there every single minute of his life. what he did was he spared us the hard part and gave us the joy. what an extraordinary gift that was. >> through the hard part, he found a way to make people laugh. he often would joke about his own struggle with drugs and alcohol and made it his material. >> he talked about that on my show. >> this is what i hwhy i have t give up alcohol. you have to pay the next day. dear lord, don't hurt me now. you lie in bed and the movie the flags going, help me! help me! the entire room is spoiinning le a roulette wheel. place your bets, place your bets. there is the toilet in the corner going, "talk to me." here is warning sign if you have a cocaine problem. first of all, if you come home to your house and you have no furniture and your cat is going, i'm out of here, [ bleep ] warning. number two. if you have this dream you're doing cocaine in your sleep and you can't fall asleep and doing cocaine and you can't fall asleep, and you wake up and you're doing cocaine, bingo. on your tax form if it says 50,000 for snacks, mayday! i come here for you because i believe in you. it's good to be in the room with big beer having just gone on a rehab, that's a good choice. because i was violating my standards quicker than i could lower them. >> james, he talked about addiction when he was on the show as well with you. >> yes, he did. he said the following -- for me, the greatest drug of all is creation because you can create. you get the same kick because evolutionary wise, your brain gives you little endorphin buzz. why do you think einstein looked like that? this is some dynamite weed. if he had made the atomic bong, you drop the bong and smoke clears and everybody is dancing and hungry. it was great to have full senses again once i cleaned up. >> james lipton, thank you so much for being on the show, sharing your memories and thoughts with us. >> we appreciate it so much. thank you. >> thank you. still ahead on "morning joe," we are going live to iraq where things may be going from bad to worse. the country's prime minister is now thumbing his nose at the u.s. even as american jets bail out his government's military. later a look at the disease that may have ultimately claimed robin williams life. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. ♪ (yawn) (ding!) toaster strudel! more fruit in the filling, ya? mmm! ya! warm, flaky, gooey, toaster strudel! now, with more fruit! caman: thanks, captain obvious. wouldn't stay here tonight. captain obvious: i'd get a deal for tonight with deals for tonight from hotels.com. and you might want to get that pipe fixed. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are24/7branches? 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"the washington post" and msnbc political analyst eugene robinson and jim miklaszewski with the latest, the nbc news pentagon correspondent. >> jim, we made news yesterday. people were talking about the fact that your reporting brought out that generals say if you want to take care of things over there, this is a 15 to 20-year deal. it's not a couple of quick bombing runs. there aren't a lot of good options for the united states, are there, right now? >> not really. certainly not good military options. lieutenant general william mayville yesterday in a briefing here yesterday said, look, as far as the air strikes are concerned so far, we have stopped the advance of isis and turned it back somewhat against the kurds up there near erbil but he said there's no sense whatsoever we are making no claims that we have contained or broken isis and he, himself, suggested they will just take the fight for somewhere else. nobody here -- even intel folks are not suggesting that the u.s. military is going to be directly involved in combat with isis or its ilk for the next 15 to 20 years, but this is a phenomenon that we have yet to see in terms of worldwide terrorism. this is a real army that has seized a huge swath of iraq and parts of syria. they have actually created their own terrorist nation. so this is not something that is going to be solved any time soon, particularly with military strikes. if you think back to just al qaeda core itself, which did, you know, launched a terrorist attack here, a terrorist attack there, their first one in 1993 against the world trade center and 20 years later we were still dealing with osama bin laden and al qaeda. nobody here is optimistic that anything militarily can be done even in the medium to long term to halt the advance of these terrorists. >> mick, the pentagon is famous for writing up contingency plans. i know we are not talking about the prospect of ground troops but is there a plan the pentagon has a plan if the commander in chief said destroy isis. >> if there are plans to puts boots on the ground nobody talks about it here. they are planning for a possible contingency. even in the short term when the president was talking about creating some kind of safe corridor. people here said that is going to take ground troops. we can't possibly do that from the air alone. and so there were calls to the french, to the british, to the turks. anybody who might be able to contribute, but on saturday, president obama, again, vowed to the american people there will be no u.s. military boots on the ground. >> katty kay? >> eugene robinson in washington, you write a piece in "the washington post" today. your column talks about the invasion of iraq and how this is america's responsibility, the pottery barn rule, america broke it, so they bear the responsibility for this. in a sense, don't we have to look forward now and think what is the best solution in terms of trying to limit isis' ability to impact american national security and trust going forward, not looking back at the last ten years? >> i think we do need to look forward. i was, frankly just cheesed off at dick cheney going around saying this is obama's fault and actually, no, it's mostly your fault. but that aside, let's look forward. there is a short-term question, i think, which is baghdad. i mean, so they have been stopped from taking over erbil and wiping out the kurds and is the iraqi -- are the iraqi armed forces strong enough to keep isis away from baghdad? think that is a short-term question they must be looking at at the pentagon. medium and long term. you heard what mick reported. i think it's going to be, first, isolation and containment of isis and then the question is do you allow this terrorist entity to exist and perhaps consolidate a strength there, or do you try to organize some sort of international, you know, effort to shut it down and that is a question that nobody is going to want to face and i certainly don't want to face, but there it is. >> joe, i wanted to ask you because there are political calculations that go into this that are completely different from what it meant to go into iraq under president bush. we are not going in to a sovereign country. this is not saddam hussein. how does that change congressional calculations and white house calculations in trying to go back in to baghdad, a country that we said -- or go back into iraq, a country that we said that we have retreated from and that we are not going to be involved with any longer? >> it's extraordinary difficult for this president who won the democratic nomination because even as a guy running for state senate, he opposed the iraq war. we had yesterday a reporter from "wall street journal" saying that he went around the 2012 campaign talking about getting out of iraq. that was one of the biggest applause lines she reported, carol lee reported. that is one of his biggest applause lines in 2012. in 2014, the poll numbers aren't much better now. the problem is, of course, gene is right. 2003 to 2007 and 2008, the bush/cheney administration was responsibility for so much. republicans now looking at what happened with the obama administration and trying to blame him there. i think both sides have going to have to realize that regardless of who is to blame, here we are and we're fighting something that is much messier than just going after saddam hussein in a sovereign nation. the world was a lot simpler in 1988 when, gene, we had a cold war and it was us against them which sounds pretty darn good right now. then we moved to a stage where it was u.s. against bad nation states, but this virus is, again, spreading like something we have never seen before. >> it's spreading, joe. there is already the question of, you know, real recruits coming in from across the arab world and really across the world to join isis, you know, as it's kind of a focal point. >> coming from america. coming from europe. >> coming from america and coming from europe and then eventually going to go home. i mean, you called it a virus. you hit it and it makes it spread rather than contain it. so, you know, this is not -- this is not a one year or two-year campaign to eradicate it. maybe we should think of it as trying to eradicate a disease and that is always a long-term process that also requires, frankly, a big plan that is going to involve more than just the united states. it's also going to involve europe and other world powers as well if it's going to be contained. >> it is so difficult what has happened over the past six, seven, eight, nine, ten years. we need to go. but, mick, i remember when we were fighting against al qaeda in afghanistan and using the measurements. how many have we killed and if we just kill, you know, all of the guys at the top, we're in great shape. we just had killed osama bin laden, all of this would have gone away. we killed osama bin laden and this has only gotten worse and more difficult people trained to be generals and admirals and work in the building you're in right now, to understand this new world that is changing at lightning speed by the minute. >> and, quite frankly, this has been building for several years. the u.s. military and intelligence and other civilian intelligence agencies have been watching this fester with a great deal of concern and they raise the possibility that all of this was going to explode someday and for some reason, there was no immediately response from u.s. leadership at any level, including this building, but before leon panetta left, he asked the dia, take a hard look at this because he was concerned about the potential that these terrorists represented. but nobody, nobody envisioned the kind of advances and gains that isis has made in such a short period of time, joe. >> jim miklaszewski and eugene robinson, thank you very much. >> thanks, guys. coming up as an investigation gets under way, nascar star tony stewart makes a decision on an upcoming race after hitting and killing a competitor over the weekend. please close to tracy morgan say the actor is struggling nearly two montshs after his ca accident. we will have an update on his condition next. ♪ pressure pressing down on me pressing down on you ♪ in new york state, we're changing the way we do business, with startup ny. we've created tax free zones throughout the state. and startup ny companies will be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in jobs and infrastructure. thanks to startup ny, businesses can operate tax free for 10 years. no property tax. no business tax. and no sales tax. which means more growth for your business, and more jobs. it's not just business as usual. see how new york can help your business grow, at startup.ny.gov [ female announcer ] aveeno® daily moisturizing lotion has active naturals® oat with five vital nutrients. [ aniston ] because beautiful skin goes with everything. aveeno®. naturally beautiful results™. ♪ 39 past the hour. we want to take a look at the headlines making news this morning. tony stewart will not participate in a race in indiana on saturday. it remains unclear if he'll compete in a nascar event the next day in michigan. this comes after the crash led to the death of fellow racer kevin ward jr. >> you know, this is the right thing to do. >> yeah. absolutely. >> i think one of the worst mistakes they made right after this terrible tragedy was when his team announced the morning that -- the morning after this young man had been killed that it was business as usual that they were going forward, they were going to race no matter what and made him look insensitive and it made him his team look clallus. we are talking about criminal charges. he something more severe to worry about but you have to wonder the sponsors as the investigation goes forward if the sponsors will stick with him. >> a autopsy said ward died of massive blunt trauma to the head even though he was wearing a helmet. ebola death count has gone past a thousand now according to the w.h.o. a experimental drug said it has run out of its supply. tracy morgan's lawyer say the actor is still struggling over two months since the accident which left him severely injured. morgan suffered several broken ribs and a broken leg when the van in which he was rideing in was struck by a walmart truck on the new jersey turnpike. two others were injured and fellow comedian james mcnair was killed in that crash. morgan has filed a lawsuit against walmart. his lawyer says he is fighting hard to recover from his injuries. >> we saw the clip of him a couple of weeks ago where he was in the car and saying that he was feeling better. but this was a horrific crash. maybe this is a good day, but just knowing this has to be something that he is going to live with the rest of his life one way or another. >> we have this extraordinary close call in england. this is surveillance video from inside a london subway station where a man places a stroller with a baby in it against a wall. he then goes back up the stairs to help family members when apparently a big wind gust blows the stroller and it rolls on to the tracks! moments later, a woman believed to be the child's mother jumps down on the tracks. she lifts the stroller back on to the platform. seconds before a train pulled in! police are still looking for the couple to make sure the child wasn't hurt. >> oh, my gosh! up next, finding meaning in -- >> rule, by the way, just parenting tip. this parenting tip 73, i can understand why -- i'm not going to judge. >> i'm not judging either. >> i'm not either. i'm just saying i read a manual. i got like 73 kids and parenting, one of the tips, i think maybe 78. don't leave your child in a stroller in the subway alone. >> what if it closed and went! >> i don't know about the video. i think it's a hoax. >> the think it's a hoax? >> the stroller made a big right turn. >> is that a baby? is that a dog? >> look at what happens. it's like the exorcist. look what happens. it's like, uh. come on! very sad if it's a real baby and it's not a hoax. like a right turn on the stroller. >> remember "devil baby"? >> i do. do you think that is what this is? he has his headphones on and this good guy is numb. he is a millennial! they do nothing! they had headphones there. >> he could have been in shock. >> he could be an extra hire. >> sound guy, right? >> exactly, in 3-2-1. >> here is the thing. >> we have gotten into judging territory. >> we are in judging. >> not parental. >> been a lot of technological advancements in htv. you still can't see wind in 2014. >> just the thing is against the wall. >> why is that guy just standing there? just saying. i want to know who he is. i'd be looking for him. >> we will be examining this. much more straight ahead. >> more on robin williams ahead. >> and nancy snidermyderman wil here as well. you owned your car for four years. you named it brad. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends. three jobs. you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement, we'll pay for a car that's a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. you catch "morning joe"? >> no. >> well, the captioner recorded it. mayoric brooks is on. >> you got to see this. >> thanks a lot for being with us. >> great to be here, joe. >> i'll start by asking you the obvious question. what is with the sheep? >> you mean elliott here? you got to admit, elliott is pretty damn cute. >> i got to be kidding me. >> i have to admit you've inspired lots of people what did you in court. >> i think we should stop acting like elliott and question authority. i believe this button says it all. >> no sheep. i like it. so let me ask you. what next for you, your sheep, and your social refvolution? >> my supporter is supporting a rally. >> this guy can't stop himself. >> so let's go crash his party. >> that was joe and robin williams. that was "law and order svu" a scene you did. what was that like? >> of course, i was nervous as i always am around greatness like you. that is why i'm nervous every morning here. he was a sweet, sweet man. he was a quiet man. i think we have all known brilliant people in our lives. not on that scale, but there's, you know, there's a line from a bruce springsteen song "candy's room." there is a sadness in a pretty face. a sadness that is all her own. i think when you're around somebody that is suffering like that, i think anybody -- it doesn't take a psychiatrist to read that. he was a sweet guy. he was a quiet guy. and, you know, when i first heard about this last night, i was just thinking about depression, and thinking about i just thought a couple of weeks ago, i've known people that have suffered depression. i've known people who have taken their lives because of depression. and just a couple of weeks ago, i was thinking, you know, my heros, people's heros churchill for me and paul mccartney and all of these great figures through history. i say i just -- it was, like, the people i respect the most are the people who struggle with depression every day. a dear close friend once said to me, where every choice they make is difficult. the choice to get out of bed. the choice, my friend said he would stand in the shower for 15 minutes trying to figure out whether he was going to get out of the shower and start his day and live. and every step to work was a battle. there is no way shallow people like us can understand the pain that these people go through. and what it takes to be a robin williams and fight through it for 63 years and do extraordinary things in that time. >> often with genius comes with the ability to experience extreme sides of emotion. joining us now to talk about this is president and editor in chief of hollywood live.com bonnie full letter. with us also is nbc news nbc ch. nancy snyderman. some people who when they heard of his passing, it was actually not shocking, knowing him, because he did have these inner battles. >> he flew very close to the sun. >> that's it. >> his highs were very high and lows were very lows and his highs were what endeared him to people when he had this manic genius and the lows were what people didn't see. when the lows were low, i think joe really nailed it. the inability to put your clothes on. the inability to shave, the inability to want to get out of the shower. the desire to not see anybody that day. the gradual pull away. it's insurmountable for most of us who get a case of the blues to understand overwhelming depression. it's like being in a big stainless steel pot and you can't get traction to get out. you can't see over the horizon. you can't see the purpose of it all. and constantly someone is pulling at your feet and pulling you down and down. and while it's easy to talk about medicating depression, what you hear from these great artists is when they take their medicines, it dulls the creative juices. and they don't like that. so, they're comfortable in the highs, but the lows are inevitably what take them from us. >> and how many of us have known people, bonnie, that have been depressed that take the medicine and -- i know. i've heard this from several people. i've heard this from friends who say i choose to be depressed instead of taking -- i won't say the drug that i hear everybody say the same thing about, being so flat that i never experience a single high. >> and experiencing those highs was all about what he obviously loved to do. that was his work. and he was manic. he had that crazy man i can humor. on the other hand, was he self medicating when he had these bouts with first cocaine? he talked about it. he got addicted to cocaine in the '70s, early '80s. he was a great friend of john belushi and it was john belushi's death and the upcoming birth of his son that led him to rehab the first time. >> thomas, jump in. nancy, it takes the edge off their brilliance, what they're able to do. having said that, these medicines can save a life. >> they do save lives. you'll see the need to self medicate. people on binges, of taking coke, of taking alcohol because they don't like the feeling of not feeling good so it's easy to reach for the things that can dull the sadness. the more affluent you are, the more connected you are to the good stuff. >> the more available it becomes. >> speed balling with john belushi. it is easy, especially in that sphere, to get really dangerous stuff really fast. >> when it comes to a medical diagnosis of depression, and for people that can suffer from it, from an early age and then you mix that with later in life a growing addiction with, say, alcohol or any other type of substance abuse, how does that then confuse with what's actually being treated? >> it's tough. remember, he had heart disease, too. so then you say, okay. did his heart become ill because he was depressed? and depression is linked, you know, to heart disease or did the heart disease make him more depressed and then he had the natural mania? jonathan winters was his absolute idol. you look at jonathan winters. classic case of someone who is bipolar. great highs, great lows. we have to get past this point of -- this stigma of mental illness. we're about 30 years past where we were with breast cancer when betty ford put the words out here. we're old enough to remember we couldn't say the word breast on television. we have to talk about mental illness and say, stigma over. mental health, brain heart, heart health. these are all parts of the body. >> parts of life. >> it's interesting. because a lot of actors and other people in the public eye, they don't talk about depression. and while he was very open, he talked frequently about his battles with drugs and then with alcohol. he talked about how he fell back into alcoholism. he never mentioned depression then. and so for some reason he wasn't comfortable. and maybe because he was in hollywood. it is pretty accepted to drink and have these problems and be able to come back with your career. you can recover. maybe he felt it wasn't as accepted to talk about depression and make a comeback. >> bonnie fuller, thank you. dr. nancy, thank you as well. more of the best comedic moments from robin williams. you're watching "morning joe." it's never been easier to find a dentist. watch. dentist. at 1-800-dentist, we've helped over 8 million people find that right dentist. we can do the same for you. so don't put it off. call 1-800-dentist. so don't put it off. ahhh! what is it? 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>> and delighted the impressionable. >> there's lots of things you can do with this stick. you could start off playing baseball in the world series or you could be gene shallot or pin oaki nochio. i have two oscars, elmo. they would leave parts of the script blank, allowing williams to ad lib. it provided a national audience for his genius. >> i can't let you pass up a chance like me, honey. >> stop it. mork, would you help me? >> if you insist. mind if i cut in? thank you. >> but it wasn't long before he turned his attention to more serious projects. waking up the world in "good morning vietnam." >> in saigon according to official sources, nothing actually happened. what officially didn't happen, a bomb didn't officially explode unofficially destroying jimmy's cafe. >> get him out of there! >> mixing the funny and funny. >> you do fosse, fosse, fose. you do -- >> with the deeply philosophical. >> poetry, beauty, romance, love. these are what we stay alive for. >> he was a regular at the academy awards, taking home an oscar in 1998, his only one, for his role in "goodwill hunting." >> you don't know real loss because it only occurs when you love something more than you love yourself. i doubt you ever dared to love anybody that much. >> according to a publicist, williams had recently been battling severe depression and dealt with substance abuse throughout his career, going to rehab in 2006. >> i twoent rehab in wine country. it's like detoxing in colombia. >> were you unhappy before you went in? >> i was pretty much everything before i went in. now it's great to have genuine emotions and being all right with that. >> his roles were as complex and as playful as the man himself. exploring some of humanities darkest chapters, along with our greatest triumphs. and above all else, he made us laugh. and joining us now, chief creative officer and co-president of the entertainment group at gugenheim media, janet minh. greatest mind in comedy without a script really. >> people have taken him for granted in the last few years. we're so use to having robin williams in our world. he is a comedy god, everyone from lauren michaels to every young comedian, jonah hill. all these people look to him as sort of the icon of comedy. to be able to sit there and fill empty space and make people laugh is one of the biggest talents you could have. you think about these writers in hollywood who are paid to sit there and write lines for people to be funny. this is a guy who could do this out of nowhere, off the top of his head. >> he just let himself go. >> yes. you could see -- it's a brilliance and you could say an insanity, right, that someone could actually be that brilliant and just have these inner voices that let you do things that other performers can't do. >> we saw those clips. a guy from 1978 uttering the words "nanoo-nanoo." hilarious stuff. >> yes. >> to that remarkable scene with matt damon when he's sitting there, talking about matt damon's character not knowing total loss. >> heartbreaking. >> because you only know total loss if you love somebody more than you love yourself. while he's doing that, you're looking at robin williams, the man. there's not an actor there, delivering those lines. there was a humanity in his acting that was made even more remarkable from how he began his acting career. >> what's interesting, what he did with his career would be almost impossible to conceive of today where you had a guy that was in a big hit sitcom on abc, 60 million people watching, which is unthinkable today. you could never get that kind of number. then he became an academy award winner, did serious roles. you see comedians fail at this all the time. it reveals an inner depth that you really can't fabricate. >> i think you're the only one old enough to remember, because thomas is in his 20s. the rest of us on the set are older. you remember "the world according to garth"? and i was thinking this was the guy that was on "mork & mindy"? >> total revelation. of course, he went on. never won a tony but won, obviously, an oscar, multiple emmys and grammy. incredible range in versatility. sometimes in one sense always the same robin williams but that versatility to be that great a comedian and dramatic actor is quite something. >> you talk about not getting a tony. he was recently on broadway the last couple of years. janice, his career choices so interesting. we did fall in love with him from comedy. the spinoff from "happy days." he showed up on "happy days." that's where mork was born. >> who would have thought having an alien on "happy days"? >> was that before or after the fonz jumped over -- >> that was before. >> laverne and shirley was a spinoff. >> i don't remember fonzie and mork sitting there. >> potsy. >> potsy. >> popeye and in the movie "toys," or "dead poets society." each and every one of us have a film or role that he played that impacts us. that's a very special thing that not all actors get to say. >> i thought it was interesting, looking at the reactions on twitter last night. miley cyrus who makes her own headlines, she said she can't stop sobing. she's never met the man. you think about this woman who is 22 years old and the impact these movies had on people. being 7 years old and going to see mrs. doubtfire and suddenly she felt okay that she was in this unconventional family. these roles that can connect with people young and old, it's really an amazing feat. and, you know, i think it reveals how we just never really see the inner life of these actors who seem so happy, that they have it all. a lot of creative impulse, there's also a lot of turmoil for people. >> you could certainly see his ability to connect with the vulnerable in some of his serious roles especially. his ability to carry out those roles showed an incredible understanding of pain. >> right. you cannot fabricate that, no matter how many acting lessons you have. >> obviously, he was known for ad libing, which is what he did most of the time. every role he has ever taken. in the animated film, "aladdin," there were 16 hours of material from his recording sessions. he improvised so much, the academy reportedly turned down the film for best adapted screenplay. here is a portion. >> you're going to grant me any three wishes i want, right? >> almost. there are a few improvisos. >> like? >> i can't kill anybody. don't ask. i can't make anybody fall in love with anybody else. rule number three, i can't bring people back from the dead. it's not a pretty picture. and i don't like doing it! other than that, you got it. >> hmm. provisos, you mean limitations on wishes? some all-powerful genie. can't even bring people back from the dead. i don't know, abu. he probably can't even get us out of this cave. it looks like we're going to have to find a way out of here. >> excuse me? are you looking at me? did you rub my lamp? did you wake me up? did you bring me here? and all of a sudden you're walking out on me? i don't think so. not right now. you're getting your wishes! so, sit down. >> oh, my goodness. that's just incredible. >> really was an incredible actor. you have to think about what was going on in that voicing booth and the fact that the illustrators were able to match up the reactions on the face to the genie there. this is a great story, backstory on robin williams, showing a really unique bond with the actor, christopher reeve. the two shared classes together, coming up together at juilliard acting school, attending the premiere of "good morning vietnam," and after reeves catastrophic accident that left him paralyzed in 1995, robin williams helped to nurse the actor's spirits. he showed up at the hospital dressed head to toe in scrubs, speaking in a russian accent. reeve recalled the moment in an interview. >> i was so struck by your obvious, deep, deep friendship with robin williams at the creative coalition event. >> he was the first one to show up down in virginia when i was really in trouble. he came here one afternoon and just -- thank god i wear a seat belt in this chair because i would have fallen out laughing. in the middle of a tragedy like this, in the middle -- when you can still experience genuine joy, laughter and love and anybody who says life is not worth living is totally wrong. totally wrong. >> and that squares up to what we were talking about earlier. when he was filming "shindler's list," steven spielberg said he would call robin williams at the end of each day's work and just ask his friend, make me laugh. >> that's -- that's an amazing thing. i think what you see -- i think the response of everyone thanking him, thanking him for making them happy was so touching. and i can't remember how many stars would pass, the president issuing a statement, would get pictured on the white house instagram account. it reveals just the significance of this actor to america. you know, i was flying from los angeles last night. it was fascinating to me, once the news broke, every single tv was turned to the news, watching this. and people were crying. and it really made you realize, you know, after a day of iraq and isis, you know, that the world stopped to pay attention to this. i know people disparage hollywood and actors. you really realize the way the actors in hollywood can contact people is also very powerful. >> absolutely. janice min, thank you so much. really appreciate your reflections. >> thank you. coming up on "morning joe," what do we know about the man picked to take over iraq's government? we'll go inside the power struggle between the appointed prime minister. >> he may not actually take over the job. >> there's that, too. because the current leader is saying he's not going to leave. >> not going to leave. >> that's right. >> did you ever try that on your tv shows? we want to go to a new direction and say i'm not leaving? >> nochlt when i was fired from cbs, i left the building. and there is another job i said no, i'm going to stay and do it. >> oh, you're talking about this job? >> ba, ba, ba -- no. did the u.s. government miss the urgency of the isis threat? the administration was warned about the militant group but underestimated its ability to move rapidly. >> what does the president call that? horse poop? >> maybe it is. first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> i'm not leaving. i got my fridge down here, my cot down here. all set. good morning, everyone. rain is on the way. how about that rain in detroit yesterday? it wasn't like your average thunderstorm rain. it poured all day. lifelong detroit residents say they've never seen anything like it. every highway around the city at one point was closed because of the flooding. epic rain. 4 1/2" total close to their daily record. that goes back to 1800s, all-time most rain in one day. that heavy rain event from central new york, all the way down to virginia, dc and baltimore area. there's no airport delays to speak of. that should change. we are going to see the rain really picking up by about 10:00 tonight, heavy rain over dc and baltimore and then the real problem is tomorrow morning at this time, i expect a very large area of thunderstorms, torrential rain from philly, right up through new york city, right during the peak of the morning rush. so if you can change your flight for tomorrow morning, try to do so now before everyone else tries tomorrow at this time. we'll talk more about that rain. the rest of the country is looking pretty good out there. coming up next on "morni"mornin joe"" we'll have more on the passing of robin williams. we'll be right back. good morning, vietnam! hey, this is not a test. this is rock 'n' roll. time to rock it from the delta to the dmz. is that me or does that sound like an elvis presley movie? 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and intelligence officials say, well, you know, this was really more of an iraqi military failure than an intelligence failure. how could we know that the iraqi military would be, you know, so quickly to fold and run away? and so that's the debate that's now taking place among these officials. >> how quickly the iraqi army did just dissolve. >> and part of that is because the country is a mess. the military situation is in crisis but there's an economic crisis and political crisis there. congressman, let me ask you. assuming that the american government gets its way and the iraqi system -- a body not very well known, educated in england, less sectarian perspective than maliki, handicap his chances if he does take over of successfully turning around the government, the economy and maybe the military situation. >> it's going to be very difficult. as far as we know, he is the best of the group, far superior to maliki. we have isis controlling an essential land mass. back in february, fallujah fell to isis. this was a major area taken by isis. forget what is said privately. in public testimony said we could expect advances by isis. the fact is that one of the regions we don't have a better read on the iraqi army is because president obama pulled so much out of iraq. there is no military. we had troops embedded and we would have known the failures of the iraqi army. this is a result of him withdrawing too quickly. and anyone who knew anything about intelligence knew that iraqi was metastasizing. yes, core al qaeda had adjusted but you had these other groups, isis being one of them. >> you look at the map of iraq and look at isis control. it's frightening how quickly they moved through that country. again bobby ghosh last week was saying they have a land mass. >> what would be your scenario? >> my main criticism has been if you're going to be a leader -- whether or not he wants to do it, don't tell the enemy that. come up with a conservative strategy with our allies in the region, with the courage, with the iraqi army and deciding what he's going to do. don't tell isis what we're going to do. make it clear it's not enough to save people on a mountain top in kurdistan. >> but, peter, maybe he's not telling isis what he's going to do. the first thing the president said is, the humanitarian crisis, we're going to take care of that. he's using this as an excuse to crack open the door. let's hope he drops some bombs on isis. the next thing he did was drop bombs on isis. maybe the president is doing exactly what you want the president to do. that is not telegraph what our next move s i would hope the president would say, we're going over there, going to look at some real estate and then, boom, you surprise them. >> if it does become a larger effort, it would be harder to bring the american people behind them. no matter what he ends up doing, he has to have the american people behind them. that will make it much harder to sustain any type of enlarged effort. it's important to be honest with the american people without telegraphing to the enemy. >> i asked you whether you thought there was a plan that would be successful in defeating isis, what would you have american military forces do that is different from what the president is doing? let's leave aside the telegraphing of the messages. do you envision a scenario that would be successful now for the u.s. in iraq? >> first of all, we can't acknowledge surrender to isis. much more sustained air attacks. find out where they're deployed. go after them. and not just using bombs from aircraft carriers, use bases in neighboring countries so you have more access, make greater use of the iraqi army. to wait until a government is settled in iraq, it could still take months before the iraqi government is functioning. using the iraqi army to the extent possible, iraqi military. using neighboring states, sustain air offensive. >> that doesn't seem very different from what's actually happening at the moment. >> it is right now. we're focused on a very small part of the isis-controlled area. this is having minimal effect on isis. it's providing humanitarian relief, knocking out isis troops in the area of kurdistan. as far as the overall area, as large as the country of jordan, we're having no impact on isis and they're moving forward. >> it seems you want the american troops and president to make a much larger commitment inside iraq. the president, won two national elections saying we were, as a country, going to leave. the american people are behind the president, that we want to withdraw from iraq. so is there a contradiction between what you're saying and what the president is doing? if he's taking a conservative approach in reengaging iraq and doing exactly what the american people want? do not get us back in. >> leadership is not actually doing what people want. if winston churchill had done that against the nazis, we would -- >> so the president should do what you want? >> no, he should do the right thing. >> which is what you want? >> joe and i have had this discussion -- >> you're elected by the american people. you serve the american people. you can't just go around being a dictatorship, like what these people are trying to fight against. >> that is incredibly absurd. i can't believe you're serious about it. you're saying that the president realizes that he has to change policy to save the lives of the american people and to protect american interests, he shouldn't do it? >> the first time we went into iraq was against a sovereign country. this time we're going in against terrorist organizations. these are two completely different calculations that you're asking the president to go -- to take into evaluation and under president bush and under dick cheney, it was completely different than what you're asking the president to do this time around. >> of course it's different. it's a different situation. it's a terrorist organization. the first time we've had a terrorist organization control such a large land mass. it's a threat to the middle east, to the united states. for to you say that somehow the president has to lock himself into what he said two or three years ago, if he was wrong there, circumstances have changed and he has to do it. you can't lock yourself into what you said. >> congressman, thank you. siobhan, how freekd out is the intelligence community? what's the worst case scenario of what might happen if isis continues to expand their control on the ground? >> the military has been clear that they don't expect the air strikes to really curb the ooh isis efforts all that much and the intelligence community is incredibly concerned that it could expand both in iraq and syria. >> could they take baghdad? >> the safe haven has shocked a lot of those folk. >> do they think that they could take baghdad? >> it's certainly something that they're still looking at. and i think that, you know, from time to time, over the last few weeks, it's looked like it's -- it could possibly happen. it hasn't happened yet. i think that at this point, there is a sense that that would be a bit of a bridge too far. it's not clear if that would be isis calculation or because the iraqi military could really hold them off. >> congressman peter king, thank you. siobhan gorman, thank you as well. >> thank you, peter. driving business before the bell, next. 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"good morning vietnam." >> one of my favorite object robin williams' performances is in "aladdin," the genie. when he prepares aladdin for what is to come. would you like to come how many characters he played in that 2 1/2 or three minutes as the genie? 52. 52 entirely unique, discreet characters, switching like that. and it was all improvised in an empty studio in front of a microphone. >> that is unbelievable. robin, of course, ad libed his way through the role of genie in "aladd "aladdin." let's take a look. ♪ got a punch only aul you've got to do is rub that lamp ♪ ♪ hang on a second mr. aladdin sir what would your pleasure be let me take your order sxwlnchts jot it down you ain't never had a friend like me ♪ >> he was extraordinary. walked out on the set and normally i wear my wings of a pilot, lapel association. the symbol of it is wings are face down. he walked over to me and turned it upside down so that i would look right to him. i turned it back up. he said what are you doing? 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>> i learned it's emma and lyla's two-year anniversary. >> mark halperin, it doesn't seem anything more than a year and a half. >> never been the same. >> no, they haven't. of course, i'm very patient. >> move on. >> those are children, joe. >> what did you learn? >> contrary to what donny has told me, when he's in hampton beach, he's at the shakespeare -- >> i wanted to get my kid as way from wifi and computers this summer. i took them up the mountains, no cell phone reception. it was great. get your kids away from those gadgets. >> i love that. >> great idea. >> what did you learn? >> celebration of life, robin williams who we're going to sorely miss. i wanted to leave on a happy note. i did the als ice bucket challenge on the "today" show. i nominated three people, rachel ray, gavin nusol. all three of them did that. >> no way. >> look at this message. >> what's up, thomas? who are you doing? i heard your challenge and i'm taking on the ice bucket challenge today for als. my three nominees are my all my boys from miami. alonso, a-rod and pitbull. >> oh, look at that! how big is that, thomas? 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"fox & friends" starts right now. bye. good morning. it is monday, september 29. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a monster truck show takes a deadly turn. >> oh no! >> what caused the driver to plow into a crowd of people right this? >> he beheaded a woman in oklahoma and tried to convert his co-workers to islam. and this morning he will be charged with first-degree murder. but what about terrorism? we have a live report. >> the administration underestimated isis but it wasn't the president's fault the >> our head of the intelligence community, jim clapper, has acknowledged that i think they underestimated what had been taking mace -- place in syria. >> wasn't the president being briefed on isis for over a year? we'll take a cloture -- a closer look because your mornings are better with friends. >> live from studio e in the heart of midtown manhattan. it's "fox & friends." by the way, if you are craving a cup of coffee today, it is okay because it's national coffee day. >> great news for so many. we can't wait to share that cup with m9ñ >> i think we have a special surprise object that very same theme. >> we have this for you first. a fox news alert. he's accused of beheading a former co-worker and seriously hurting another and today alton know lab will officially be charged but the question is why isn't this being called a terrorist act. a big question as to what this is being called or what it's not being called. >> local police initially said it was workplace violence and he is still in the hospital but will now face first-degree murder charges and assault with a deadly weapon. police say he got angry in oklahoma city and went on a rampage at company headquarters. he killed one woman and was hacking away at another when the c.e.o. shot him. his mother recorded a video apologizing for her son's actions. >> our hearts bleed right now because what they're saying alton has done. i want to apologize to both families because this is not alton. >> there are two investigations here. the first being the local one into the attack but also a federal one looking at nolen's possible ties to terrorism. his facebook page makes reference to share i can't can't -- sharia law, jihad and 9/11. he had been in jail but released on good behavior. locals say he was a frequent worshiper in his mosque where he was described as a little off. >> he also assaulted a cop and they get him out in less than two years when he should be in jail for six. >> it is a crazy story. local cops in oklahoma, they refer to what he did, he terrorized the people at work. the big question is will it be regarded as terrorism? let's face it. he's a guy who you look at his facebook page, he embraced radical islam actions and stuff like that. >> could this be the beginning of the lone wolf attacks we've been worried about? if we're going to stop it, we have to at least acknowledge it. >> he was obsessed with islamic extremism. did you watch "60 minutes" last night? that interview generated reactions. pumped up prez blasts putin and china. "that's how we roll." the daily news -- by the way george clooney got married. the daily news says see no evil. obama admits isis caught us off guard, that according to "the new york post." curious is he's very outward in the fact that he throws the intel community under the bus. watch. >> i think our head of the intelligence community, jim clapper, acknowledged that i think they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. with isil was that you had al qaeda in iraq which was a vicious group, but our marines were able to quash, with the help of sunni tribes. they went back underground. but offense the past couple of years -- but over the past couple of years during the chaos of the civil war where essentially you had huge swathes of the country completely ungoverned they were able to reconstitute themselves. >> that headline you held up initially that said bomb inator. i think it is really blame-in-ator. >> we've been reporting, not just the c.i.a. and other members of the intel community have been pumping information into the white house for up to two years now on the growth of the islamic state, on the chaos that was created by abandoning iraq, assessments on concerns over the readiness of the iraqi army, their abilities and their tactical and leadership command and structure. all this was going into the white house. so i don't know what they were doing with the reports. either they chose to ignore them because they didn't meet the narrative they were putting out there about decimating al qaeda. or they paid no attention. >> you hear mike baker speaking for c.i.a. operatives, all the people who said if you pull out there's a problem. the military said if you pull out there's a problem. we watch al-maliki replace all the sunni leaders with shia leaders. one of the guys for a minute we thought was nonpartisan tried to pull the sects together and start denying the kurds of their rations. at the same time telling the sunnis you can hit the road, at the same time syria erupts and goes offense the border. for example, on january 3 do you need a threat assessment to tell you volusia fell, sinjar august 34. and then we get a strategy. how much lead time do you need? we know the president watches news reports because if he was watching he would have seen this happening. it bothers me so much to see somebody blame somebody else for a position they're in. that's the antileadership quotient. >> it was very clear. stevecroft tried to bring the president to say i thought you were the guy who didn't want to start a war. you've started a war. we're not at war with isil which is funny because we had admiral kirby last week say we are at war with isil. here's the president. he's done a 180 over the last month or so. now he says when the going gets tough, the tough go to america. >> america leads. that's always the case. we are the indispensable nation. we have capacity no one else has. our military is the best in the history of the world. and when trouble comes up anywhere in the world, they don't call beijing. they don't call moscow. they call us. that's the deal. >> it looks like we are doing 90% -- >> steve, this is not an -- when there is a typhoon in the philippines, take a look at who's helping the philippines deal with that situation. when there's an earthquake in haiti, take a look at who's leading the charge making sure haiti can rebuild. that's how we go -- that's how we roll. and that's what makes us america. >> i loved it. i love that statement. i love everything he said right there. i hope it shows the situation where the president once he got behind the wheel of the country said we are unbelievable. because it is not seemingly how we always felt. >> who was that guy who made that sound bite? >> when you read that it looks reminiscent of president reagan, president bush -- >> president clinton too. >> president clinton as well. but it hasn't necessarily been the tone we've been hearing so far from president obama. take a listen. >> america must move off a permanent war footing. america must always lead on the world stage but u.s. military action cannot be the only or even primary component of our leadership in every instance. unless we discipline our thinking, our definitions, our actions, we may be drawn into more wars we don't need to fight. these new circumstances have also meant chipping away from a perpetual war footing. america should not be expected to police the world particularly when we have so many pressing needs here at home. >> remember what he said in 2009. i believe in american exceptionalism just as the greeks believe in greek exceptionalism. no offense but i don't think he can put us in the same category. >> his last sound bite america should not be expected to police the world and we started that with when trouble comes to the world they turn to the united states. >> we now turn to ainsley earhardt. >> thanks guys. let me tell you about the headlines. terrifying video capturing the moment a monster truck rally in the netherlands takes a deadly turn. [screaming] >> you can hear all the spectators screaming as that truck knocks down the guardrail and plows through that crowd. thee people, including a child, are now dead. 20 others injured. the truck driver is now being questioned. investigators think the gas pedal got stuck or the brakes failed. new details in the case of a real estate agent who vanished in arkansas. police issuing an arrest warrant for this man, aaron lewis. the 33-year-old suspected of kidnapping beverly carter. lewis has an extensive criminal record in arkansas and utah and is on supervised parole until 2017. carter disappeared after showing a house to a potential buyer. beverly carter's son will join us live at 7:15 this morning eastern time with an update. the f.a.a. scrambling to restore a flight center. thousands of flights canceled since a fire friday morning. the f.a.a. is bringing in extra technicians to replace the damaged communications network. they expect to return to full service in two weeks. 36-year-old contract worker brian howard is charged with starting that fire but is currently in the hospital. monday morning of course means nfl highlights. the dallas cowboys taking on the new orleans saints. romo throwing for three touchdowns and murray agd two scores on the ground. cowboys win 38-17. the green bay packers taking on the chicago bears. rogers showing off with four touchdowns. packers getting the 38-17 win to grab the team 700 all-time wins. those are your headlines. >> thank you very much, ainsley. >> a beheading in the name of islam at work. is it terror or workplace violence? a witness who survived the fort hood massacre joins us live next to react. >> just after the clooney wedding, these photos are likely the only ones you'll get to see. just suck them in. these pictures they took to prevent guests from leaking pictures of their special day. ♪ ♪ (vo) watching. waiting. for that moment, where right place meets right time. and when i find it- i go for it. 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(teacher) and i can stay perfectly dry. with tena, i'm not afraid. and you won't be either. call 1-877-get-tena. a recent convert to islam beheads a former co-worker while stabbing another. today alton nolen will be charged with first-degree murder as his mother insists, there are two sides to every story. >> i want to apologize to both families because this is not alton. but i just -- i'm praying that justice will prevail, the whole story will come out. >> meanwhile nolen celebrated acts of terrorism against the united states on his facebook page. so should his crime be considered workplace violence or an act of terror? joining us is retired u.s. army sergeant howard ray. he survived the fort hood massacre after rushing nine people to safety. good morning to you, sergeant. >> good morning. how are you? >> doing okay. i understand you saw the first news reports of this guy down in oklahoma beheading his co-worker; took you right back to fort hood, didn't it? >> absolutely did. it really made me think about how our fight with terrorism and really bad atrocities like this is far from over. >> i mentioned a moment ago how this particular guy on his facebook page appeared to be obsessed with radical islam. there are reports that he may have been shouting islamic phrases as well. we haven't really heard from the feds on this. we heard from some of the locals saying this guy did what terrorists do. they terrorize. but isn't this terrorism rather than workplace violence, which is what fort hood was categorized by the feds? >> well, obviously this did happen at a workplace. but i think the more and more that you look into the suspect's facebook page and his ideology, i think you can really find the underpinning of why this happened. an angry co-worker doesn't just, you know -- people typically run into that situation. you'll see a shooting or something like that. but you won't necessarily see someone get their head severed from their body, which is so tragic and so painful. i know for that family and for the co-workers and everyone in moore, oklahoma, right now, it even pains me as a survivor of the 2009 attack at fort hood. it's horrible. >> i tell you what, the people at that particular processing plant, they're lucky the c.e.o., mark vaughn, was a reserve deputy and had a gun on him at the time and was able to, he shot him a couple of times. the guy's going to live but nonetheless he was able to stop him. there he is right there. that guy's a hero. >> absolutely is. one of the great things that we can learn from this is small business has learned a lesson that if they arm their employees, their employees will be safe. the sad thing is on a grander scale as far as our government goes, i don't think we've quite learned that lesson yet. >> i think you could be right. sergeant howard ray joining us from austin, texas. thanks for your service and thanks for getting up early to be with us here on "fox & friends." >> thank you so much. take care. >> 20 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up cloudstdy of tear gas swallowing protesters in front of a government building, but police cannot stop their cry for democracy. i hope that makes sense for you. after a two-time battle, nfl hall of famer jim kelly is cancer-free. it's all part of a plan that the lord has. and i'm going to continue to follow that plan. we don't know where it's going to end up, but i'm not going to stop fighting. >> up next, kelly about his disease and how his family and god pulled him through the darkest time in his life. ♪ ♪ ah! come on! let's hide in the attic. no. in the basement. why can't we just get in the running car? are you crazy? let's hide behind the chainsaws. smart. yeah. ok. if you're in a horror movie, you make poor decisions. it's what you do. this was a good idea. shhhh. be quiet. i'm being quiet. you're breathing on me! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. head for the cemetery! if you suffer from constipation, you will likely also suffer from gas. introducing new dulcogas, which starts working to eliminate gas bubbles in minutes for effective relief. dulcogas, from the makers of dulcolax- nothing relieves gas faster. welcome back. quick international headlines for you now. police firing tear gas as thousands protest in front of the government headquarters in hong kong. [screaming] >> demonstrators chanting we want democracy as they call for free elections in 2017. and toxic gas and ash still spewing from a massive volcano in japan. rescue crews now being forced to suspend all efforts to recover victims' bodies. as many as 36 people died. >> lendingary buffalo -- bills jim kelly earned his motto. four years in a row they go to the super bowl. four years in a row they lost. his son tragically passes away at the age of eight. after being diagnosed and battling cancer twice, kelly this month announced he is cancer-free. we had the chance to sit down with jim and his wife jill to talk about their journey and how they found strength in their faith. >> almost a year to the day you were in our studio. >> i was diagnosed a couple of months ago. they removed my whole upper jaw. >> what has happened since? >> how long is this interview? >> 35 radiation treatments. you lose 51 pounds. what was that like? >> there was a period in new york city where i had so many bags hooked up to me, we really didn't know. even in my heart i didn't know if i was going to live. i said to my brother, those are the longest two weeks. he said, jim, you were in the hospital for six weeks. i said what? >> i heard you got a little angry when you -- he said i might be seeing hunter before you. you got angry. >> we immediately started crying and i thought wow, that is not the road we're going to go down. although by faith we believe that god has a plan and all this for us, but there's more living to be done. >> jill, you took pictures? >> i did. none of us knew exactly what the outcome was going to be for jim, and i wanted to document every single thing. and i did. and i probably drove him crazy. >> tell me what you're thinking here. [cheering] >> they surprised me. >> once again i got him on video. >> reminded me, you said it was something like a super bowl. you run through the tunnel. the hands went out. >> that was amazing because some of the people, along with my brothers, were all there. that was my last day, coming out of my last radiation treatment. and i remember that day because it -- i had so many people that were along my journey before i was even diagnosed. it didn't matter what i was going through, they were always there for me. and all the people that were this for me, that came to see me in the hospital came to see me at home, would send me letters, would send me packages. they were there that day. and as i said before, i'm a truly blessed man to have so many great people around me. >> i watched every single minute this year of the whole thing. what's your reneck shun -- your reflection on this? >> the last thing that i'm going to say before my speech is over, i want to catch one more pass for my quarterback. at the end of the speech, he was done. >> in the toughest game around you were known as the toughest. but you said in this speech that he taught you. >> i remember that. hunter. >> hunter, born on february 14, valentine's day. >> i don't want to start crying. >> that's how i feel. >> i can pretty much tell you word for word what i said there. he is the toughest person i ever met. i realize that the good lord put our son here for a reason and that was to change the lives of thousands and thousands of kids and families, and he did. now full circle now. it's me. it's all part of a plan the good lord has. i'm going to continue to follow that plan. we don't know where it's going to end up but i'm not going to stop fighting. >> you said one of your goals on your bucket list is to walk your daughters down the aisle? >> to be able to walk those two down the aisle. that is on my bucket list. hopefully before that one, i want to take this lady back for a honeymoon back to italy. before that i'm going moose hunting with a couple buddies. i've got about five or six on my list but the three most special ones are with them. >> that's great. he started lifting weights again. >> he looks good. >> what spirit he has and jill is so special. >> incredible couple. later in the show jim will tackle something on the a lighter note. the trouble in the nvment it will be interesting on his take and who he blames in the nfl fl >> terrorists with a new warning for america. >> this is the happiest looking mug shot ever. why the heck is that criminal smiling? >> you have the right to remain happy.w72 ♪ ♪ ♪ she inspires you. no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. 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who have not yet made up their minds about this high profile murder case. >> sparks were flying at last night's iowa senate debate. the candidates started knocking each other for political associations including the koch brothers and tom steyer. >> i'm not sure that that's what ernst told the koch brothers when she went to their secret meeting. i stood up to big oil at yef opportunity. >> you're not running against these other people. you're running against me. i am a mother. i am a soldier and i am an independent leader. you are being funded by tom steyer, who is a california billionaire extreme environmentalist. so remember, please, that you are running against me. >> i realize that. president obama's name is not on the ballot. i'm not going to owe president obama anything on election day. you're going to owe the koch brothers everything. >> i will stand up and do what's right for iowans, not for california extreme environmentalists, not for senator harry reid, not for president obama. >> the latest des moines register poll shows earns is ahead with a 44-38 lead. a fallen navy seal immortalized in maryland. he died two years ago in a helicopter crash in afghanistan. now a bridge in annapolis, maryland, is dedicated in his memory. friends and family gathering for the ceremony for the unveiling of the sign that will be placed on that bridge. his father saying the bridge will serve as a good reminder. >> he can't be replaced by the bridge. but if this will serve as a memorial. people will remember that when the country goes to war there are sacrifices. the dedication ceremony attended by state and military officials. and those are your headlines. >> ainsley, thank you. here you are looking at photos taken of mr. and mrs. george clooney the morning after their big wedding. and they are likely the only ones you're going to get to see. >> the couple made the event so private, they asked all their guests to leave their phones and cameras at home giving them burner phones to use instead so nothing leaked out. for insight let's step into the fox light wyatt now with michael -- fox light right now with michael tammero. one of the reasons they did that is because they sold the rights for the real pictures to somebody else. >> to u.s. vogue it is rumored and they will donate the money to charity at some point. he has a lot of charities he supports. and also they want to keep their pictures their own. george doesn't leave anything to chance. he's very detail oriented. this is classic clooney style. >> i heard the guests were not able to take their cell phones. is that true? >> they asked the guests to leave their cell phones at home and if they saw anyone taking pictures to report them to security. a lot of rules and regulations at this wedding. >> they get married in venice but they're going to have a civil ceremony today at the venice civil hall? >> they tied the knot in a personal ceremony on saturday. today they're going to tie the knot again in a civil ceremony. she really wants to get him on the record with this. she's leaving nothing to chance as they say. it was attended by a lot of big a-listers. matt damon. except one b.f.f. of clooney prks ben affleck because he was stuff in new york talk to go me. >> were you a fan of the book before starting this flick? >> i read the book when it got to hollywood and made a big splash. but i just thought i have no idea how you make it into a movie. it seems to structurally weird and how do you have the narrative work the way it does. of course david and gill yam got together and me i'm completely wrong. >> never read the book. don't do a lot of reading when i'm writing and i'm writing all the time because i don't want stuff seeping in. but gilliam is amazing, david amazing. it is really incredible. >> i love the book. i love the book. i went back and read all the acknowledgements and i read both sides of the flap. i was very into it not ending. >> the book in 2012 sold over nine million 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(electric hedge trimmer) everybody loves the sweet, fluffy deliciouslness of king's hawaiian bread. quick headlines for you on this monday morning. the happiest mug shot ever. a man charged with robbing a denver bank. cops say michael whitington was caught after trying to getting away on a train following a robbery. he faces a judge tomorrow. washington nationals pitcher george zimmerman getting much-needed help from his friend. >> yellich left center, it's well hit and a diving catch. >> unbelievable. steven suza to make the catch and save the no-hitter. the nationals's first no-hitter. >> the manhunt continues for the suspect who shot and wounded a ferguson police officer saturday night. police say the shooting is unrelated to the death of michael brown. the unarmed teen shot by police last month. this as the president makes his message clear the same day. >> in too many communities around the country, a gulf of mistrust exists between local residents and law enforcement. too many young men of color feel targeted by law enforcement, guilty of walking while black or driving while black, judged by stereotypes that fuel fear and resentment and hopelessness. >> should the president really be taking shots against law enforcement? here to react is former virginia police chief and retired u.s. marshal carl rowan. >> do you think the president was irresponsible with those remarks? >> good morning, brian. it's not unusual to hear unfortunate racial rhetoric from some speakers at a congressional black caucus dinner but you expect better from the united states. his words were really troubling on many levels. >> at the same time unrelated perhaps, of course, to his comments, you see an officer shot in ferguson, which is white hot right now with resentment? >> absolutely. the president has made it clear that he sees the problem wholly with law enforcement. his words, his divisive words can create hostile actions at the local level that are totally unnecessary. and that's what's so troubling about them. >> it will be interesting to see one of the black leaders that go and, go out to ferguson to stick up for what they think is michael brown being gunned down before the due process had taken place, it will be interesting to see them step up and talk about this policeman being shot on friday -- on saturday. >> well, unfortunately that would take leadership. and that seems to be in short supply. i don't see how any police officer can put his or her badge on and go to work believing that they're going to get a fair shake or the benefit of the doubt from this president or from anyone in his administration. i've never seen a president or a justice department so hostile to law enforcement. >> there's very few jobs outside serving in the infantry or army or battle in fallujah where each day you get up could be your last. a ticket for speeding could lead to your death. i think in america at the present time we're taking this for granted? >> absolutely. it would be nice to hear the president say something appreciative for the job that law enforcement officers do every day. >> and in new york we're experiencing the same thing. carl rowan former chief of police over in virginia, thanks so much. 12 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up, she went to show a house to a prospective buyer and never came back. now a suspect has been identified. beverly carter's son joins us live with the latest on the search. when a disaster hits you at home, how do you get out safe? our next guest has the one bag that could save your life. ♪ ♪ will that be all, sir? ♪ thank you. ordering chinese food is a very predictable experience. i order b14. i get b14. no surprises. buying business internet, on the other hand, can be a roller coaster white knuckle thrill ride. you're promised one speed. but do you consistently get it? you do with comcast business. and often even more. it's reliable. just like kung pao fish. thank you, ping. reliably fast internet starts at $89.95 a month. comcast business. built for business. we have all seen the destruction caused by earthquakes and hurricanes, but would you know what to do in such an emergency? >> good question, steve, well september is national preparedness months and experts stress thousand crucial it is to have -- how crucial it is to have a bag. we are joined now with the tips that we all need. good morning, frank. what should be in this survival kit and why's it so important? >> well this is one of our auto survival kits. >> in your car. >> at all times. you're stuck in traffic, you'll wish you had this with you. >> leave it in the trunk. >> for years, right? >> like five year food, five year water. >> frank, let's go ahead and start packing the bag, let's go ahead and innumerate what you're putting in. >> this is the five year food. >> apple cinnamon, and in this situation, it's going to taste like filet mignon. >> here's your water. >> put the blanket so we can fit it all real good. >> the water's coming in single drinking pouchs like that. how clever. like something you would give your team on a saturday morning. >> exactly. >> yeah. put the water in the zip lock bag. i've never had one burst, and i've sold many of them, just in case, it retains the water that's very necessary. and also doesn't ruin everything else. >> speaking of water, frank, tell me about the life straw, this is something you say everybody should have, what does it do? >> everybody should have it. if you have to leave it, take it with you. water is everything, it'll filter 254 gallons of water out of dirtiest looking pond you've ever seen. >> you could drink it if you had toe through the life straw. >> it's not going to taste good -- >> but it'll save your life. >> for sure. >> that's new. what's in the can? >> you don't to want get a flat and get stuck. that little refill the air in your tire and get you to a gas station. >> great. >> some of these make sense as well, a lot of this stuff is what you'd take camping, storm matches, ponchos, why do i need an outdoor mirror? >> if you have thrown off the highway, you're stuck somewhere in the snow, you want to signal somebody, aim for the sun and get somebody's attention. >> just like in the movies. >> snap sticks, or just to warn. >> they're just too to keep you, have light in the car at night. yep. >> okay. these are the reflective triangles. set these outside of the car. >> exactly. >> do you think now more than ever we need to have this kit? or is this just always? no one just has one. >> we've always needed this, and now we need this, plus a lot more. >> have you seen an increase in people coming to your location and store? >> sadly yes. i say sadly because we saw 25 year shelf life food, house emergency things, things that'll keep you alive. >> after i question for you -- i have a question for you and after 9/11 people said you should be ready. my wife and i bought 25 gallons of water, then on the tenth anniversary of 9/11, we thought, you know this probably isn't any good anymore, how long does water in a plastic jar last? >> that water you would have to use a filter, it's a pump filter, and it would still be fine. we sell barrels that are blue, ultra violate raies can not get through to make the bacteria. i would still keep the water -- >> just use the life straw. >> okay. >> or we have other pumps at our store also. >> we're going to put the complete list of things you need to have in your go bag on our website. >> for sure. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> great advice. >> thank you, frank. all right coming up, president obama says the american economy is the best in decades, and investigators are fighting to do business here. is that true? 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the intel community differs with the commander in chief, donald trump here to react in moments. parents, have you heard this? don't give your kids a time out, it might hurt their feelings. instead, try a time in. that means more time with mom and dad. >> oh. >> morningings are better with friends -- mornings are better with friend. >> what? >> i don't get it now. >> time in, you're in time in. >> great, now time with mom and dad is punishment. you're going to have o to spend more time with me, that'll straighten them out. how would you like to spend a whole day with me? keep up with that wise mouth. >> spending time with you for your children is torture? >> that's what it seems. >> we're in time in here, we're going to get a timeout if we turn to ainsley. >> thank you, elisabeth. >> good morning, good morning at home. he is accused of beheading a former coworker and seriously hurting another. and today, alten nolan will be charged with first-degree murder and assault. police say that nolan went on a rampage in moore, oklahoma, after getting fired. he was eventually stopped when the company's coo shot them. nolan's mother posting an emotional apology on facebook. >> our heart bleeds right now because what they saying alton has done. i want to apologize to both families. because this is not happening. >> nolen will be arraigned as soon as he's released from the hospital. terrifying video capturing the moment a monster truck valley turns deadly. wow. you can hear the spectators screaming as that truck plows right into the crowd. it happened in the netherlands, three people, including a child are now dead. 20 others were injured. the truck driver is now being questioned. investigators think the gas pedal got stuck or the brake's failed. brand new details in the case of a real estate agent who vanished while showing a house in arkansas. late last night, police just issued an arrest warrant for aaron lewis. he's suspected of kidnapping beverly carter. he has an extensive criminal record in arkansas, missouri, and utah, and is on patrol until 2016. carter disappeared on thursday after showing a foreclosed house to a potential buyer. the next day her husband says he got three text messages from his wife's cell phone. one saying she was out drinking with friends, but he says she's not a drinker. beverly carter's son joins us live next with an update on the search for his mother. close call for jennifer lopez and actress leah remini. she was driving j-lo's car when a drunk driver hit them then took off. lopez instagramed this photo with a caption, sitting at a light, riding high, right before some drunk fool rear ended us in my new whip whip, #cursethatfoolowhip, #cu t whip, #cursethatfoolout #the bronxcameout. >> i did not know a whip. >> whiplash, gosh. thanks. >> it's how the kids talk these days. joining us now, you know him at @realdonaldtrump. >> i'm sure you were watching the president of the united states. extraordinarily what we know to be true is apparently the intel community for the last year and a half has been briefing the white house on the threat of isis. and they have made it clear, this is something to be worried about, last night, mr. trump, listen to this, here's the president throwing the intel community under the bus. >> how did they end up where they are in control of so much territory? was that a complete surprise to you? >> well, i think our heads of the intelligence community, jim clapper acknowledged that i think they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. >> he didn't just say that we underestimated isil, he said we overestimated the ability and the will of our allies, the iraqi army to fight. >> that's true. that's absolutely true. >> okay. so it's not his problem, he's blaming somebody else, mr. trump. >> well first of all, he's hard to watch. and constantly blaming other people and i really wonder what's going to be happening when obamacare crashes in 20d 16 because that's when it all comes about and you're going to see a crash like never before. he'll be on the golf course and not worrying about it too much. his history is he blames everybody, he doesn't know what's going on. i don't know if he's a worker or not. i'm not sure. maybe he's not a worker and he just doesn't have time to think about these things, but certainly he blames everybody for everything that goes wrong. and there's plenty going wrong. >> do you think it's he didn't want to know or that he knew and didn't care? >> i think he almost doesn't just know what's going on. i mean, my opinion is look, he has these people reporting to him. how can they not know? everybody else knew. everybody over there knew. iraq, where we spent $2 trillion, then taken over like a bunch of babies, they throw up our weapons, throw them up in the air and run like babies. and this is after we spent $2 billion, and he doesn't know what's going on as they take over big sections of iraq? that's inconceivable to me. >> it might be more, if we stayed, we would have seen him oust all the sunni leaders. he would have saw that al-maliki was taking all the resources away from other regions and maybe he wouldn't have done it if we kept a force there, not to fight, but to watch and secure and advise. but listen to this, fallujah fell january 4th, telefar june 15th. we didn't take action until august and september. >> well he doesn't take action. he does things very late. in this case, it was years late, and it could have been stopped very easily early on. this is a much bigger threat right now. i think it's a threat we can handle, but we're going to have to handle it strongly. so far as troops on the ground, i watched the generals talking saying you have to have troops on the ground. it's a sad fact, but perhaps that's what we're going to have to do. believe it or not. >> well, when he wasn't blaming the intel community for underestimating isis, he was blaming george bush, this is a bad time, you have ebola, ukraine, syria, well it was much worse when i inherited this mess from george bush. and steve cross said people don't feel good, he had this sound byte we're going to play for you about how people would feel better if they'd simply passed what the president wants passed. >> if we raise the minimum wage and make sure people are getting paid the same as men. if we are rebuilding infrastructure, if we're going more to invest in job training to people can get the jobs out there right now. manufacturing is coming back to this country, not just the autoindustry that we saved, but reinvestment here in the united states. businesses around the world are saying for the first time in a long time, the place to invest isn't china, it's the united states. >> do you agree? >> you know business better than anybody? >> it's incorrect. china has been eating our lunch, they have for years. mexico, look there, we can't get the sergeant out, the marine out of mexico. and yet, they're doing unbelievably well with our business. we have businesses moving to mexico and getting tax abadements and tax cuts for them. we're giving them tax incentive to move to mexico. it's crazy. many countries, and watch mexico, because in the future, that's the place, it's what's going on in this country is the opposite. we take a look at the new iphone, the apple iphone, and we talk about apple's an american company, is it really? it's made, every one of them made in china, and other places, but they're not made in here, not one of them. so the manufacturers are not coming here. manufacturing's being taken from here. look also at chooinl, if we -- china, if we sell a truck to china, which is a rare occurrence, they charge a tax. when they sell things to us, there is no tax whatsoever. >> right. >> we don't know what we're doing. we don't know from an economic standpoint what we're doing. >> but, you know, what do you say, ian if you believe the -- even if you believe the minimum wage should be raised, isn't it dancing around the edges? where's the big picture on revitalizing and restructuring. do you have an idea of some of the things you would do? >> absolutely, but it's not about the minimum wage, it's about creating jobs. the number of #.3 -- 6.3% is way off because all of those people that couldn't get jobs are considered employed from a statistical standpoint. you probably have an unemployment rate of 18%, 19%, could even be above 20%, and those people are considered employed. you have to get people working again. you have to get jobs. and we have to be, you know, he also talked in that interview about we're the ones that they call, well sometimes we're going to have to turn down those calls on or sometimes people are going to have to do for the united states. we're a bunch of pat sis, we're very poorly led people, and what does anybody do for us? so you know, sometimes when they call, and there's a problem, we have to say folks, twoef straighten out our -- we have to straighten out our own mess. >> the american people are feeling it, 58% of them, according to recent fox news poll, when they is that true line, american economy, american workers are better off now than in 2008, almost 60% said that was mostly false. 58%. >> who are the other people? who are the 36%, i mean it's, who are these people but a you don't see it, you don't feel it. there's not a lot of spirit right now for the country. that's the other thing, our country needs spirit. when do good things happen? what have you seen a report where the country's booming, where we're doing great -- >> oil and natural gas. no one ever talks about it. >> we're taking business away from china. where we're taking business away from all parts of asia and india. you don't see that, it's always that we're the ones that are losing. >> start exporting and selling our own oil and gas, that's the boom nobody's talking about. it's not government. >> every monday that the time, donald trump joins us live on the phone from his empire somewhere, and we thank him for joining us. if you like to follow him on twitter, it's @realdonaldtrump. this realtor went to show a house and never came back. now police fwhoe they're looking for. that woman's son is going to join us next. >> what a story. and wonder why 60 minutes got that interview with the president, anything to do with this prime time cameo? >> have we met before? >> no, we haven't. >> i heard that you were contemplating running for state's attorney. >> is obama's senior advisor valerie jarrett going into acting or is there another reason she got the role? we'll tell you about that as we follow live from new york city. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. a fox news alert, a massive man hunt under way in arkansas this morning for a suspected kidnapper, aaron lewis. police say lewis may have learned real estate agent beverly carter into a foreclosured home last thursday. she has not been seen since. at first, he was only a person of interest in the case until yesterday when he was involved in a bizarre car accident that left him with cuts and bruises on his face. police took this photo right here before bringing him into the hospital where he managed to escape during a ct scan. so where is aaron lewis? and more importantly? where is his alleged victim real estate beverly carter? i am joined now we carl junior. we thank you for joining pus. this is an important morning for you, when you saw the picture, this suspect now on the loose, did he look familiar at all to you? >> no. it's just crazy. we're thinking and, you know, going through photos and thinks of where have we been, where has she been and how could he possibly be connected and why, why is my mom a target? we have no idea. >> you know, your dad said he receivered a couple of text messages from your mom. can you tell us about those and this is the last time i believe he heard from her. >> yes, ma'am. we, we had called the cops, and they had come out to the location where mom's car was left at that property that she was showing. and you know, we're sitting there and, you know, 10:30, 11:00, 12:00, you know, time passes by and the worry builds and all the sudden we get these texts from mom's phone, and it's almost joyous, like mom's okay, but then, the reality hits, and we read these texts and it's just not my mom. >> you say that because one eluded to going out drinking with friends. >> right, right. she is not a fan of the drinking. she would have a drink or two, a year, and very social settings. it would never, never be let's go out with my girlfriends, she's just not that type of person. >> right. i know you want everyone to know if they have any information to go to facebook.com/findbeverlycarter. have you received any information tips and support there so far? >> we have, we have received a lot of tips. and we've passed those on to local law enforcement. and i encourage people, they say if they know anything at all, small, connection, especially related to this gentleman that is not a gentleman, but this person that has taken my mother, however small it may be, that you make that known, please. please help me find my mom. >> and carl, there's a great chance that your mom can hear you right now, i want to give you thecñ0 we have the facebook on our website and 501-340-6600 is the sheriff's office if anyone wants to call with any information, our heart's are with you, we'll stay on this. >> thank you. >> got it. well restaurants are now offering discounts for diners who ditch their devices. how much would it take for you to put yours down? hmm.en and have diabetic nerve pain. it's progressive pain. first that feeling of numbness. then hot pins. almost like lightning bolts, hot strikes into my feet. so my doctor prescribed lyrica. the pain has been reduced and i feel better than i did before. 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[ male announcer ] ask your doctor about lyrica today. it's specific treatment for diabetic nerve pain. time now for the numbers. $4.35, that's the average cost to withdraw your own money from an out of network atm machine. $4.35. $35 million, that's how much the new denzel washington film earned, making it number one finally 100, that's the age of this kansas city royals fan. francis van hugheser has supported the team for more than 50 years and to celebrate her birthday, the team gave her a shoutout on tv, sent her team shirts and the best gift, they made the playoffs. go royals. >> all right, yeah, who thought that was going to happen? 25 minutes now after the hour, earlier in the show, i shared the inspiring show of jim kelly and his wife jill. they talked about beating cancer twice now, and how they're continuing their fight, but could not leave without talking a little football. the current state of the nfl, and how the players in the league are dealing with the controversy they are facing today. >> i am sorry that we didn't push harder to get that tape. >> my actions are inexcusable. >> have you considered resigning. >> i have not. >> now we're seeing for the first time that i can remember the league is on its heels. how would you explain what the league has gone through? >> sad. but a very small minority, very small group, 34 guys screwed up. people have to own up to their own responsibilities. i mean, you look at roger goodell and you blame him, you look at the owners, everybody's giving the blame to everybody else. give it to the guy that screwed up. he's the one that screwed up, not the commissioner, and everybody makes mistakes. i understand that, but when you're a 26, 27-year-old best way out? >> i have no idea. everybody has to look at themselves in the mirror. be responsible for yourself. i'm not by no means a perfect kid, by no means, but my dad always said son, when you leave this front door, you go somewhere else, remember you represent our name. and i took so much pride in the kelly name that i never wanted to tarnish it. and i think players nowadays should do that. unfortunately, nowadays, social media, so many outl/j÷ out there, you have to be squeaky clean. i thank the good lord ere day that i wasn't -- every day that i wasn't playing when social media was. i've talked to so many other guys that said the same thing. >> do you believe that football players should be better than everybody because they have a responsibility, more than the average person? >> no, everybody's the same. except when you become a professional athlete, you are automatically a role model. and you are in the public eye, and you have to accept that. that's part of being a professional athlete, whether it's football, baseball, basketball, hockey, you have understand that there's a lot of dhads look up to you. adults that look up to you. you have to understand, that's part of it, again, it's only a few players, but a few is too many. >> life or death struggles, but yet the bills still matter. you wanted to make sure they stayed, and when that season opened up, they wanted to make sure you felt appreciated. what was that like? >> you know number one it's humbling to know that there's so many people out there that do care. and one thing that aye learned -- i've learned through my time coming to buffalo when i said i never wanted to be here is the people are amazing. they have hearts of gold. how they rallied around me after i retired when my son was born and of course when i had cancer, how many people that we've helped change and how many people have changed me in this city is why i will spend the rest of my life here. >> just amazing, he's referring to the fact that he says i'm going to the usfl, now guess where he is, he's in buffalo. went, spent ten great years. yo only were they nice enough to open up the doors, every time he talks it hurts. his mouth is still killing him. so to talk, he had to get pumped up to do that. every sentence, every word, he wants to inspire others with cancer. he feels very bad for the people who are in these cancer wards and have nobody visit them. jim kelly, famous, great situation, but he felt so bad, he used to see everybody else by themselves, suffering by themselves, that's important. also megan mcdonald and kelly did an unbelievable job. >> what a special time you had with him, my goodness. extraordinary family and joy. >> went to buffalo and came back. >> great interview. he's a wonderful guy, and what an inspiring story. he'll be back up to 2:30 at this time. >> good call there. do you wonder why 60 minutes got that interview with the president? did it have anything to doed with this prime time cameo, huh? >> mis-jarrett, have we -- miss jarrett, have we met before? >> we haven't, but i heard you were contemplating running for the attorney? >> is valerie jarrett going into acting or is there another reason she got the role? we're going to look into it. and have you heard, today is national coffee day and there's a bunch of places where you can get a free cup. we have them for you, plus we're going to show you something cool when we roll on live from new york city where we're going to get cranked um on java. 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(male announcer) today's the day to ask your doctor about levemir® flextouch. covered by nearly all health insurance and medicare plans. ♪ look at that. it is national coffee day and we are celebrating by getting our faces put on a la day. it's called theselfie. >> how cool is that? >> it takes a lot of talent to make one of these. this is extraordinary. >> barista at a cafe has been in the green room, and he did such a lovely job creating our likenesses in lattes. by the way, because it is national coffee day, it's not just them that's giving out free coffee, duncan donuts, crispy cream, mcdonalds, and tim horton as well. free coffee on national coffee day. >> they came here, we appreciate them. and by the xbuwway, you can getm in time square and 25 other locations across the country. it's another successful franchise. >> barista to a whole other level. >> i don't know how you'd do that on paper. >> a latte talent. >> don't draw me. won't be flattering. we know a lot of you watch fox news channel all the time, well if you were watching cbs last night, it was pretty much wall to wall about -- >> what do you mean? >> the obama administration. there's a new show out called madame secretary, it stars secretary of state. it's curious, look at that, dan gainer from the media research center says quote, the show has been crafted to spruce up the image and say that hillary isn't everything. if you missed it last night, here she is asthma dam secretary. >> at 0800 hours, our embassy was breeched. >> were they still outside the compound? >> yes, and their numbers are growing. >> okay, what's the threat assessment? >> situation is still fluid. >> let me put it this way, on a scale of one to ten, how far are we from another benghazi? >> best guess, you're looking at a seven. >> wow, that would be great, that would be good if our secretary of state was making quick decisions, but that wasn't happen pg. wow, that makes it very interesting. >> that show was on right before. that was 60 minutes. >> then just two hours later, valerie jarrett in the good wife with the cameo playing herself. >> i admire the way you set your own course. >> well, thank you, miss jarrett, have we met before? >> no, we haven't, but i heard that you were contemplating running for state's attorney. >> she'll know it's me. >> what do you want me to say? >> encouragement. >> and i wanted you to encourage you to run. step up. >> look at that, there she is playing herself. the new york times actually panned her appearance, they wrote, the political function theirs can't act, they're a distraction and flatten every scene their in with shock of recognition isn't worth it. there you've got three hours of prime time television last night on cbs, with the good wife, madame secretary, and 60 minutes, for the most part, they stood by celebrating brock. >> not enough going on with syria, the u.n., they needed more screen time. >> we also might be jealous because no one asked us. >> we're on a tv series. >> oh, starring us. >> we're on a long running number one around the world tv series. what else do you want? >> who plays me. >> someone special. >> this guy right here in the coffee. >> thank you very much. >> you sip that while we turn over it ainsly. we need to get you a latte. >> they're so talented, that's really cool. thank you guys. let me tell you what happened overnight while you were sleeping. the hunt is now on for the gunman who shot a police officer in ferguson, missouri. the burglary suspect opened fire, hitting the officer in the arm after he tried to chase him down. we're told, that officer was wearing one of those body cameras at the time which is a new practice that began in the wake of michael brown's death. the only problem is, the body camera was not turned on. the officer is now recovering at home. the search for accused cop killer eric frein entering a 17th day. shifting a search in the new direction saying he's contained to a five square mile area near his parent's house. police also remaining cautious saying that frein possibly hit booby traps. this morning police are not confirming tloorts he has been spotted. talk about a traffic nightmare, at this very moment, there's a large tractor trailer stuck, blocking at least two lanes of traffic. look at that, after crashing into that overpass on a busy new york city highway. police say that driver went down a street he wasn't allowed to be on. and now they're working to free the truck. it's not clear if anyone was injured. and call it money for manners. restaurants all across the country now shelling out rewards if you put down your cell phone during your meal. steve likes that. one new jersey spot offering 5% off in your neck of the woods, steve, if you can make it through your entire meal without texting or tweeting. >> you know what's interesting? i think we have a society, i think we got to the point where people are embarrassed to text at the table. >> but they do it all the time. >> i notice like every time if i have to answer a text, i feel guilty, and so does everyone else. >> that's a good sign. >> right? >> when we go out to dinner now, there's a rule, everybody puts their cell phone in the middle of the table, and if anybody picks it up, they have to pay. >> oh really? >> little maybe punishment and discipline. >> we're not going to touch it. >> love it. maria with a preview of the day weather wise. >> hey good morning, you know what, it's a beautiful day here in new york city, and i want to take you international because out there in the city of venice, we have beautiful weather also. brand new images coming out of there. you can see right on your scene, george clooney has officially signed papers out there meaning that he's married and just completed his civil ceremony. so we knew of course that he had his ceremony over the weekend, and now it's official on paper in terms of the civil ceremony out there. congratulations to the lovely couple. and wishing much, much, much joy in the years to come. now parts of the southeastern united states, out there we have heavy rain and flash flood concerns across parts of florida and also southern georgia. and further west across parts of the rockies and into the plains, severe weather risk, isolated tornados are a concern and temperature wise, feeling a little bit more like summer across parts of the plains into the upper 80s across parts of texas and oklahoma. 81 in new york city for the high above average. meanwhile, behind that storm, cooler across parts of utah and montana. highs out there in the 60s. back inside. >> maria, thank you very much, beautiful day here in new york city and beautiful day in ven miss. >> they -- venice. >> they look happy. man accused of convertingg9o islam is going to face murder charges in oklahoma today. but what about terror charges? closer looked in the case when we come back. and i am going to answer your facebook questions to that very topic right now. parents, don't give your kids a time out, it might hurt their feelings, instead, try a time in, that means more time with you mom and dad, we're going debate that next. >> hold my hand. when diet and exercise aren't enough, adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55%. yeah! crestor is not for people with liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor all medicines you take. call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired, have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine, or yellowing of skin or eyes. these could be signs of serious side effects. are you down with crestor? ask your doctor about crestor. today, the oklahoma man who converted to islam before beheading one of his coworkers will appear in court on murder charges. this as we learn he probably should have been behind bars at the time. peter johnson junior joins us right now. >> that's right. let's talk about who is alton nolen, going to be charged and convicted in january 2011 of multiple felony drug offenses, assault, and battery on a police officer, and escaped from the detention, he was supposed to be in jail for six years according to prosecutors, but under a deal, he got out in march, 2013. and they're trying to explain that away. when will he be charged? he's going to be charged today wl first-degree murder and assault and battery with a deadly weapon. he could also face other state and federal charges. and the charges that people are talking about really are, federal and state terrorism charges. and why the t word is not being spoken about with this ad. >> there are reports that apparently he was shouting islamic phrases at the time. that's one report out there by a reporter in home. >> there is such a report and trying to get coworkers to convert. also a photo with the isis salute. and adherent of islamic extremism. when did this happen? happened at vaughn foods in moore, oklahoma. nolen proceeded into the front office. straight to the front office. he was ultimately stopped by a reserve sheriff who happened to be the chief operating officer of that company with his legal handgun. >> if that gay would not have had -- guy would not have had a gun, he would have beheaded a second person. >> it's certain because he assaulted a second person. the question becomes today, why if he's guilty of this crime why did in fact he do it? now we know he converted to islam while in state prison. we know he tried to convert several employees to that religion. we know that he posted an image to facebook with the caption, sharia law is coming. and we know if you looked at his facebook entries, time and time again, islamic law and references to islamic extremism on his feed. >> sure, and peter, you look at the news over the last month or two, and we had these gruesome beheading videos, then this happens in oklahoma, a lot of people are connecting, when was the last time we heard of anybody being beheaded before the isis stuff. >> that leads to the question why does matter why he actually did it? and you go across twitter and facebook, across america, people are saying why hasn't the president spoken out? why hasn't the federal government spoken out? why hasn't there been a recognition that there's a problem in the state and federal prisons with regard to conversions in gangs and to put the dots together with regard to this particular assault and murder in the state of oklahoma. why isn't the federal government saying, yes, this is a problem in the united states? why are they always resorting to the excuse that it was only workplace violence or the act of a deranged lunatic? we need to look at this very, very carefully and understand what it says about our culture, prisons, and radical extremism, islamic radical extremism in the united states and how we counter it. >> it was workplace violence, at the same time, it was terror. >> absolutely, if i was there and if people in oklahoma today, i'm sure they're terrorized by what occurred in that facility. terrorism, yes. >> all right. answering five w's, peter johnson junior, thank you. coming up, parents, listen up, giving your kids a time out could actually hurt more than it helps. details coming up. good debate. plus on this date in 1789, the first u.s. congress adjourned. in 1951, the first sporting event televised live, it was a football game between duke and the university of pittsburgh. and in 1968, this was the number one song in america, you know the words, you know the singers, gctead, sing along with paul. ♪ you, my friend are a master of diversification. who would have thought three cheese lasagna would go with chocolate cake and ceviche? the same guy who thought that small caps and bond funds would go with a merging markets. it's a masterpiece. thanks. clearly you are type e. you made it phil. welcome home. now what's our strategy with the fondue? diversifying your portfolio? e*trade gives you the tools and resources to get it right. are you type e*? okay parents, have you heard this one? new study says giving your kids time outs may do more harm than good. scientists found the brain scans of kids were the same as those spanked. should we just abandon the tactic that most experts recommend? joining us for a debate on this, mental health consultant and parenting expert, stephanie, and jennifer of freelance writer who focuses on parents and cultural issues. so jenny and stephanie, glad you're joining me here now. put even's attention here, it was 2012, studied more than two dozen three to seven-year-olds. okay. and what they did was split them up, give some with time out zones, and some with no intervention at all when when they didn't perform a task. those that had time outs had an 83% success rate in terms of listening to their instructions. so what's wrong with time out? >> i don't think anything is wrong with time out. i like them, i think they're effective. i do believe that each child needs to be parented differently, on an individual basis, but i actually think they're very effective. >> okay. so that we should go ahead with time outs, you don't agree that says it is damaging. >> no, i don't. i think professionally and personally, i use them, i have three kids myself, and i think that time outs are not just effective for children, but i think they're parent for parents as well. we need a time to cool off and say, we need a few minutes, whatever it's going to take to say, relax and unwind and then we'll come back and figure it out together. >> okay, jenny you say. i agree that the time out is for the parent. i think where the trickiness comes in is the unintentional message you give your child when you put them in a timeout, you're thinking they're processing what just happened. instead i feel like they're saying to themselves, mommy doesn't love me. why is mommy shutting me out when i'm in a personal crisis, these are personal crisis. instead of leaning in and talking to your child, you're shunning them. >> but a child will need to be removed. in the light of the recent news we've heard about child abuse, allegations there. sometimes as you pointed out, stephanie, there are, the time out is for the parent, step away, take a couple minutes, get it together so you're not disciplining in a heated moments, in those cases where it would separate maybe make a big difference in terms of physical discipline. would that be something you would recommend? >> absolutely, but i again believe it's for the parent, it's not for the child. there are other alternatives that would help children be more effective. >> right, i think children do respond differently. there are some that would despise being alone, then have one kid in my family at least go to my room, i love it there. >> tell that to my kid. i think look, like you said, adrian peterson used a time out instead of his, the way he parented or disciplined his child, things may have been very different. and so again, it is for the parent as well. i believe 50% of is it just, i need to cool off. but i do think that kids need to be disciplined and parents are afraid to discipline their children. and i don't think they should be. if kids are doing something and acting out, it's okay to discipline them or to say, you're going to your room, you need to think about, and i hear what you're saying -- >> i think it's age appropriate. >> absolutely. older child is going to maybe look and say, time out. and act out more, but i do think that there has to be the cool down period. >> but if they're acting out there's a reason, and shutting them out and giving them the cold shoulder is not building up the empathy and connection and understanding what children are craving. >> that's a conversation to say, i want you to let you know, this is not a time where i'm saying i don't want to be with you, i want to let you know where we're both cooling off. that's all that this is. >> thank you both, for having this debate. you want to continue with you at home, let us know what you think about that on facebook, twitter, and e mill. time out or time in? we'll be standing by. still ahead, president obama playing the blame game with isis. this time, he's pointing the finger at his intelligence team. will the american people buy it? brett baier with that next. ♪ all around the world the dedicated people of united airlines ♪ are there to support you. ♪ that's got your back friendly. ♪ feet...tiptoeing. better things than the pain, stiffness, and joint damage of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. before you and your rheumatologist decide on a biologic, ask if xeljanz is right for you. xeljanz (tofacitinib) is a small pill, not an injection or infusion, for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz can relieve ra symptoms, and help stop further joint damage. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal 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fault. >> our head of the intelligence community, jim clapper has acknowledged that i think they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. >> they underestimated, mr. president, the intel community begs to differ with you. we're going to talk to brett baier live in d.c. in 20 seconds. have you ever googled yourself? i try not to. find something you wish would disappear, even pictures of your kids. how to erase those moments, you don't want everyone to see. good luck with mine. mornings are better with friends. yahoo, you can do something about google. >> yeah. >> find out how to do with that kurt the cyber guy. right now let's go down to washington, d.c. and the capitol >> i googled you the other day, you should stay away from that. >> brett, you are not exaggerating, i wish i had brett baier's background check, no problem. >> we're working on the delete. >> yeah. we're working on that. hey brett, we've been talking today about the blame game, president actually pointing fingers at the intel community, saying look, it's their fault that we underestimated al qaeda, never saw them coming, and you know, underestimated the passion of the iraqi army there. why would he do this? and the reaction can't be great. >> yeah, i mean listen, the phrasing there was not we, it was they. and jim clapper, when something great happens with the intelligence community it's a lot of i, and we, but i think, listen, the president gets his intelligence from the intelligence community. gets a briefing, and they, the intelligence community underestimated the isis threat, according to the president, the same president however who called this group the jv. >> sure. >> new yorker magazine, and that was in january. the same month fallujah fell. for example, i think, my humble opinion, what i've learned, brett baier is that the american people forgive you if you have an honest mistake. we underestimated what was happening in iraq. we'll never do that again and look to correct that over the next few months. i think that goes over a lot better than, james clamber admitted they essentially dropped the ball on this one. >> i[e agree with you. and how he phrased it was interesting. also not in that answer, while he said they underestimated the threat from isis, and they underestimated the fact that the iraqis wouldn't stand up to that fight, not in that answer was, we didn't fight hard enough to get iraqi troops to still be there to help these iraqi, i mean the iraqi government to still be there, u.s. troops to firm up the backbone of the iraq kiss in the status of forces agreement. you know, he says that that was not his fault because the iraqis wanted the u.s. out and no immunity deal. it's interesting to point out they have an amenuty deal now and no congress voted. they have the deal to be on the ground of 2,000 roughly troops that are there. >> you know brett, guy from the intel community, i spoke to him on the phone last night after the interview, and they're steamed. the intel community is steamed, because apparently the white house has been getting detailed information about isis, about the khorasan group, which really is core al qaeda, for a month, rather a year and a half, coming up on two years. don't know that, you know, the president was processing what it all meant, but nonetheless, for him to say, you know, blame those guys, when he had the information on his desk, that's something. and they're upset about it, the intel community. >> yeah, i bet. and i'm sure we're going to hear more through various channels about that. and you know, we've reported that a couple weeks ago, katherine herridge had a report about the brief including the isis threat growing and as you point out, about a year ago. that is significant in the wake of what was said last night. >> and just point out real quick, we don't have the sound byte in details, but the other issue is arming the free syrian army who are very mad at us now for bombing i.c.e.s and not -- isis and not assad. so saying that we have a ground force using the free syrian army is not going to work because the president's diminished their credibility from two years ago, nowments to back them up -- now wants to back them up. >> on the eyes of general petraeus and hillary clinton to get in there and arm them. >> to arm them, yeah. and, you know, just recently, few weeks ago, he said there were doctors and pharmacists and farmers, we remember that sound byte from the new york times, he was trying to explain last night that that was the status of that force two years ago, and that's why he said it was a fantasy to believe that you could provide them arms and they would make a difference. now we are going to train them and vet them, if you can. and in a short amount of time to be the boots on the ground or the forces on the ground. a lot of skepticism that that's going to work. >> also he was tieing himself in a pretzel last night, talking about there are combat troops, and they are troops, and they are in combat, but they're not combat troops, even though they have boots, they're not boots on the ground. >> we talk about that here. >> special operator, and you're standing alongside an iraqi unit and you were calling in air strikes, and you're taking fire, guess what, you're in combat. >> sure. absolutely. it'll be curious to see what happens later today down in oklahoma, in moore, oklahoma, brett because alton nolen who is accused of beheading )>auñ cowo is going to be charged be at least capitol murder. it'll be curious to see whether or not the white house or the administration refers to it as what it appears to be, this guy was obsessed with islamic extremis extremism, reports he was shouting islamic phrases, once again, it has echoes of ft. hood where they deemed that, the administration did, as workplace violence when in fact it was terrorism. >> yeah, i mean listen, this is a growing issue. and all that we've heard about this, and obviously the case is moving forward, but that tied to some sort of radicalization effort, and perhaps through his mosque, we're just hearing reports on the ground of this guy's background. i mean, it matches some of the reports when you look at the murder of brendan tevlin. you look at fort hood as you mentioned, there are broader issues here across america that could be home grown. >> yeah, linked -- i'm sorry, linked to the web who is somebody else who has a habit of radicalizing the congregation. >> yeah, and that's happening. inside the country. and we don't hear a lot about it, until something gruesome happens. >> steve, you actually spoke to one of the witnesses of fort hood in 2009 on the shooting there -- >> saved nine people's lives. >> true hero, and he said look, it can be workplace violence, but it can also be terrorism, it can be both, take a listen. >> i think the more and more that you look into the suspect's facebook page and his ideology, i think you can really find the underpinning of why this happened. you know, an angry coworkers doesn't just, people typically run into that situation, you'll see a shooting or something like that, but you won't necessarily see someone get their head severed from their body. >> yeah. well put. you know, so we'll hold our breath to see if the administration refers to it as terrorism which it appears to be. brett, the hero down there is the guy who was the president of this company because he was actually, he had a pistol on him, he's a reserved deputy for the sheriff down there, and he's the guy who incapacitated mr. nolen before he could chop somebody else's head off. >> yeah, it's a big deal. and the way that story unfolded, and you hear the 911 call, i mean, it's pretty gripping. go ahead. >> why the hesitation, brett, in your estimation and called it spay to spay, we've been hearing about the warnings, why not call it what it is? based on all the evidence that's there? >> yeah, it's a good question. this administration, this president has been red sent to do just that from the beginning. and i think there is this, this fear of launching into something that stirs up hatred of islam, and you hear it in almost every speech that he gives on the topic. >> brett, you have to run, you're going to be be starring as special report tonight as yourself. >> andly watch it -- and i will watch it. well, stay away. >> google myself for my tosses. >> wait until you see what i added to your wikipedia. >> have a good one, thanks. ainsly is in withlines. >> thank you so much, filling in for health they are morning. she was feeling a little sick last night. terrifying video capturing the moment a monster truck rally turns deadly. [ engine revving ] [ screaming ] you don't think that's going happen when you take your child to see something like that. you can hear the spectator screaming as the truck plows right through that crowd. it happened in the netherlands, three people, including a child, are dead. 20 others injured. the truck driver is now being questioned. investigators think either the gas pedal got stuck or the brake failed. new details in the case of a real estate agent who vanished in arkansas. late last night, police issued an arrest warrant for aaron lewis. the 33-year-old suspect that you see there, suspected of kidnapping beverly carter. lewis has an extensive criminal record in arkansas, missouri, and utah. and is on supervised patrol until 2017. beverly's son joined us earlier on the show with an emotional message. >> you're my rock. you were my very first friend, and i love you so, so, so. . and i need you. our family needs you. and i want you to be strong, we will find you. >> anyone with any information, please call that number that you see there, it's the sheriff's department, 501-340-6600 or 911 of course. an outbreak of a respiratory virus hospitalizing hundreds of children across the country taking a frightening turn. at least nine young victims in colorado are now paralyzed. >> they can't move or have even potentially paralysis of some of their limbs. it's too soon to tell how these are going to evolve or if they're going to get better or if this is something that's potentially more permanent. >> the nine children had a fever for about two weeks before developing varying degrees of limb weakness. right now doctors don't think it's polio, the cdc is now investigating. brand new video this morning showing newlyweds george clooney and amal. now legally married and leaving their civil wedding ceremony in ónice. today's ceremony wraps up their weekend, their wedding weekend. the clooney's more private ceremony was held on saturday and attended by a list stars like matt damon, cindy crawford, and bill murray, and those are your headlines. >> that is one good looking wedding album. you see the snap shots. >> i really knew murray. what movie have they been in? >> they're movie stars. >> come on, hollywood, baby. >> i didn't know. >> all right, thank you. >> was clooney in stripes? >> i don't think so. >>ville to look more closely. coming up, could it be eric holder's last stand, a law to reform police surveillance banning controversial targets like mosques. what does that mean for our national security? former homeland security advisor michael balbony here next. and does this sound annoy you? [ clicking ] >> it could be coming to a store near you. goodness, that gum chewing. ♪ ññ today the oklahoma man, that man right there, who converted to islam before behead lg one of his coworkers will appear in court on murder charges. this as the fbi investigates his potential ties to terror. like the facebook post that says, quote, shari'ahlaw is coming. in the meantime, attorney general eric holder is pushing one last agenda item before he leaves office. a new policy that bans religious profiling and understood cover surveillance at mosques by police officers. among other places. but what kind of an impact is that going to have on national security. are we tieing the hands of the fbi? well joining us is former homeland security advisor for new york state, michael balboni. good morning. >> good morning. >> what they're doing, there has been an exemption for national security investigations where if it's a national security thing, there can be surveillance at mosques and places like that. they're saying, no more of that. >> couple things strike you as really bizarre about this whole move. the first is the timing, why would you push for this exception now to be taken out? when we're probably in one of the worst threatened environments we've had since 9/11. second is that why are we demonstrating why that security exception was bad? we have not had any type of information out there, hearings that says that that specific security exception was in fact resulting in civil rights violations? >> sure. in the past, there have been police departments who have sent members of their team into mosques, into different situations to monitor. going forward, they won't be able to do that anymore, legally? >> really becomes a question of how do you monitor this, in other words, you have an investigation, there are lots of different exceptions in terms of something that is done when you have an emergency and you can follow somebody, but now, how do you come inó4÷ and practice thi and why would you want to micromanage an investigation? particularly related to national security? >> right. >> where they go is where they should go. the evidence takes you where it should take you, i really am concerned that this is an overreach at a time when we need to open up the borders of information, not just close it down. >> well, you know, if you look at wait they operate right now, you know, they've been able to surveil things, they've been able to listen to your phone calls and your data and look at your e-mail and stuff like that. they're taking one of the tools away, then it leaves your phone that they can tap into. >> yeah, the investigative tools are, they shouldn't be limited in this space. especially when it's a national security exception. that's what we're talking about here. and many times, you'll get a warrant, subpoena, they can work through that, but again with this change, why now? >> why do you think? >> i think it is eric holder's last, as you characterized it before, i think it's one of his legacy issues. he wants to say i'myuy'u going make sure that we take away every type of profiling we can and i think he's overreaching. >> let's hope it doesn't put us in more danger. thank you very much. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. al qaeda not on the run. the terrorists have a brand new warning for america. and have you ever googled yourself? how about your kid? you might find something you don't like, like it to disappear, chris the cyber guy shows us how to erase the moments that you don't want the world to see, like that one, get rid of it. i see the levy's parked in front of our house again. it's a free country dad. our house. our spot. those are the rules. ok who wants sweet rolls? oh, i do! 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brian does. and you can actually google your kids, you might find a link or picture that you thought was private there. they say the internet is forever, but there might be a way to remove those posts and protect your online reputation. and that of your kids for good. here to tellñus, kurt the cyber guy joins us with exactly the right step, hey, find out what's online and what to do if you find out a photo or post is there that you didn't authorize. >> there's a lot more power that you think you have in this arena. not complete control, but there's a lot you can do to get rid of something you don't like, you're looking at, it could be image of yourself or someone in your family. >> what do you do? >> first of all, go to the source and find out where is this photo posted and you can request that it be taken down. also check the privacy settings of the photo site you're looking at. many times there's a little way to flag the photo and simply say hey, this is inappropriate. why, it's of my family and it could cause us harm. and that brings us back to really, it's about how you communicate back with a photo site or especially on google images where we see a lot of these things showing up. >> let's talk about that specifically, you find a photo, opportunity down, what things should you say to google so they have to take it down? >> bingo. it's about following the rules. the rules are very specific and they'll talk about why and how and what type of removals thatú google will do is strictly adhered to this policy. many of the policies are kind of common sense things, and they are also extraordinary rules that graphic, vulgar, pornographic content, they'll automatically bring that down. they're not necessarily going to take down anything if you don't like the way you look that day. national id numbers, passport, driver's license, anything that could identify you, license plate, they'll pull it down for that, obviously if it's going to interrupt your financial world, bank account numbers, they'll take that down. images that has your signature on it that someone could copy. so the goal here really is to, you see a photo, and we saw the one with steve where he has the clown face on and everything. with that, you're going to have to find one of the silos to sort of complain about and push and push and push, and chances are, even though it doesn't fall in that criteria, they'll remove it if you're just determined enough, but the bigger thing is to find out where is that photo posted? and when you find that out, nine out of ten times, if you go to the source and say hey, look, that's me, and it's hurtful to my family -- >> like another website or app that you have that has your photos. because one of the things that we forget, and we just updated our phones, many of us, right? and in doing so, sometimes privacy settings that we thought were ironclad -- >> they've reset. >> they get reset. so also, when your friend share photos with you or take pictures and post them at shutter fly, the gamut where the photos fit. each and every one of those sites has tholicies. many times you simply go to that site and say look, this photo is causing me harm in one way or another, would you please remove it. if squeaky wheel gets the oil in the case. >> if it's important enough, you'll take the steps to keep your photos your own. >> flag those inappropriate photos. and our web, we'll show you thousand go through the google removal tools, just go to foxandfriends.com. we'll show you how to support it for the image remoll tool. >> bringing people comfort, thank you. coming up, does this sound annoy you? 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(vo) introducing the all-new subaru outback. love. it's what makes a subaru,a subaru. having a flash back, it's your shot of the morning, real central perk, from the sitcom friend is outside on our plaza right now. shaking her head on this national coffee day. >> that's right, good morning, steve, elisabeth, and brian, it's national coffee day, and lisa harrison, a barista joins us on the plaza with the central perk, popup coffee cart. tell me about this. we've all seen that where they gather in that coffee shop, and knew there's a pop up one in new york city? >> yeah, 8:00 coffee partnered with a warner brothers to create a replica. it's downtown in soho, and it's going to be open until october 18th. >> sounds good, awe now they can get -- and now they can get free coffee not just today, but for several weeks. >> since september 17th, it'll be open new mexico october 18th. today if you gho down, you'll get prizes and giveaways and more fun stuff. >> and people can get free coffee at mcdonald's, crispy cream, and pete's coffee as well. we have the coffee ready, so let's go ahead and start giving out free coffee, steve, elisabeth, and brian, as i toss it back inside, some of the stats are incredible. 54% of americans drink 18, no, over 18 drink coffee daily. americans over 18 years old drink coffee daily. 80% drink coffee up from 78% back in 2012. so a the love people drinking coffee, i am one of them. i have my cup right here. >> us too. >> toss back inside.am(yç >> all right. thank you very much. >> makes you want to clap five times. >> there's an item in the washington post this morning about starbucks number one, is it the cia? you know when you order they'll write your name on the side. they won't write people's names on the side because they don't want to the die vul j their identity -- divulge their identity. >> it could be the busiest in the world. is it the cias? >> how is that? you go through so many barricades just to get through, i guess you're hostage. >> you can't take your smart phone with if you are a barista at the cia into the cia. >> not a smart phone, but a smart anchor. >> let's do it. >> people drinking more coffee because they're watching "fox and friends" first at 5:00 a.m. >> absolutely. >> we appreciate all of you at home for doing that. thank you. here's what's happening in the headlines this morning, travel nightmare to kick off the week as the faa scrambles to restore the flight control center in chicago. thousands of flights have been canceled since an employee sabotaged the facility with a fire on friday morning. the faa is bringing in extra technicians to replace the network. they expect it to return to full service in two weeks. 36-year-old contract worker brian howard now charged with a starleting that fire, but -- starting that fire but is currently in the hospital. sparking were flying at iowa senate debate. republican senator and democratic congressman started knocking each other for their political associations, including the coke brothers and tom styre. >> i'm not sure that's what the senator told the coke brothers when she went to their secret meetings, she said that she was philosophically opposed to the renewable fuel standard and perfect world, it wouldn't exist. i stood up to big oil at every opportunity because their interests are not iowa-backed. >> you're not running against these other people, you're running against me. i am a mother, i am a soldier, and i am an independent leader. you are being funded by tom steyer, who is a california billionaire extreme environmentalist, so remember, please, that you are running against me. >> i realize that, and senator, president obama's name is not on the ballot, and i'm not going to owe president obama anything on election day, you're going owe the coke brothers everything. >> i will stand up and do what's right for iowans, not for california extreme environmentalists, not for senator harry reid, not for president obama. >> the latest des moines register poll shows her ahead 314-38 over braley. it's hard to ignore, one 7-11 taking steps to keep panhandlers away. installing those speakers that emit a high frequency tone to keep beggars out of their parking lots. employees say it's working, but it's also causing some problems. some patrons say the loud noise is more irritating than the panhandlers. fallen navy seal immortalized in maryland, petty officer first class patrick feaks died in afghanistan, and now there's a bridge that was dedicated in his honor. family and friend gathering at a ceremony for the unveiling of the signs which will be placed on that bridge, there it is. his father saying the bridge will serve as a good reminder. >> he can't be replaced by the bridge, but, if this will serve as a memorial. people remember that when the country goes to war, that they're sacrificing. >> we will remember. than dedication ceremony attended by military officials. meanwhile, monday morning means one thing, nfl highlights. let me tell you what's going on if you went to bed early last night. tony romo and the cowboys beat the saints. romo, three scores, running back murray added two on the ground, cowboys, the shocker so far this year, winners 38-17. and the bucs with the steelers at the last second. hitting lewis murphy for a huge 41 yard gain. vincent jackson and pulling in a five yard catch. there it is, tampa wins 27-24, tampa gets first win for smith as he takes over that team. >> fun times on the field. for one team, not the other. >> yeah. >> steelers are stunned. look at this, yeah, coming up now, this is a happiest-looking mug shot ever. he knows he's in a police station, right? and president obama says he's better that he's in office. his administration helped the economy get better? is that true, the governor of one of the biggest job creation states joins us right now, governor rick perry. . . dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future.you. thank you for being my hero and my dad. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance could be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. . . well police are classifying a brutal beheading of an oklahoma woman and the stabbing of another as quote workplace violent. what about the suspect in this case and his controversial ties to radical islam? should this case be classified as terror or do we have another fort hood on our hand? we're joined by texas governor rick perry. good morning, sir. >> how are you? >> always great to have you here. >> is this just another workplace violent case? >> yeah, i think americans aren't confused about this what this is. this is a clear case of an individual going in and doing something that doesn't meet their definition of workplace violence, so you know, i think any rational thinking american is going to look at this and go, this is more than just normal workplace violence. >> sure. and you look at this the guy's facebook page, he was clearly obsessed with islamic extremism, and what does he do? he beheads somebody. before the isis videos have come out, when was the last time we heard of anybody beheading anybody? it just seems like, if it's not connected, it's the craziest coincidence ever. >> i made the point that other than the video, everything else here seems to fall into that type of activity, but again, give the appropriate time to really do the investigation, make sure that that is in case the fact, and that is the point in fact, and but, at some point in time, i think the administration does have to address this as what it appears to many people that it is, and that is an act of violence. that is associated with terrorism. >> i think it's insulting to people's intelligence, we've been through this for 13 years, when you pretend like it's not linked, i think that americans get insulted, but who knows, let's see where this investigation goes. meanwhile the president speaking last night on 60 minutes. i don't know if you watched as you traveled, but he talked about our war against isis and not against islam, listen. >> this is not america against isil, this is america leading the international community to assist a country with whom we have a security partnership with. i made very clear, we are not at war against islam, islam is a religion that preaches peace and overwhelming majority of muslims are peaceful, but in the muslim world right now, there is a cancer that has grown for too long. that suggests that it is accept to believe kill innocent people who woim a different god -- who worship a different god. >> jv team grew into cancer. >> yeah. a major admission that this administration got it wrong. and it goes back to leaving iraq without an american presence, i think is, this is the result. and it'll bee927 interesting to if the president will ever make that admission, i don't know whether he will or not, but the fact is, we do have a major issue on our hand there. and being able to destroy them, degrade them as the president said, you're going to have to have major heavy weaponry in the hands of the others, you're going to have continued, heavy assault from using air assets, and you're going to have to have assets on the ground. >> is there a problem with a state like yours or country like ours to admit when you're wrong? is it a problem? >> i get to admit it, i know it's not probably the easiest thing in the world, but, you know, when you made an error, you need to stand up and said we m miscalculated, we made an error here because the american people, in my case, the texas people are not going to trust if you if you stand up and say you know what, i'm 100%, 100% of the time. >> he blames james clapper. >> and george bush. >> you know, the president needs to be looking for a way to address the issue, and the issue is, isis is a legitimate threat, it's not just a legitimate threat in that region of the world, it's a legitimate threat in the united states. that is one of the reasons that we sent our national guard to the border to send a very clear message that that boarder is going to be secure. and we're going to have not only a law enforcement presence there, we're going have the military in the form of the national guard as a partner in that effort as well. >> great. >> and it is working. i mean we knew that if you put a presence, just like a neighborhood watch, it's just like having a residual force in iraq. >> right the presence makes a difference. >> they're going see that and respond, in the case of the border, individuals who are coming up with the understanding that if you cross the border and you can come into the united states and stay, they now understand that that is not the case. >> uh-huh. >> i want to ask you this, governor, the president also said in that interview that he believed, and i will summerize, that americans are better off now than 60 years ago. >> if he's talking about economically, then everybody in this country knows, or the vast majority of the people in this country know that's not true. when we think about are we safer, i think most americans would say, you know what, we don't think we're safer, we don't feel safer when i have a border that is insecure, when we have an economy that is still so weak and anemic. i don't see how the president can say that with a straight face, frankly. >> he had 72% approval on his building of terror after the bin laden killed, he lost 40 points. >> we know you're very busy near new york city and why are you going to europe? >> couple of reasons, we were asked to give a major speechl on energy, which we are, and then the foreign minister of poland invited us over as well to talk about liquefied natural gas and coming into the baltic. we'll make a trip into ukraine as well. it's a very good opportunity for us to go talk about energy security for europew1 using american energy. >> right up your alley. >>st the way to do it. great to see you. >> thank you, governor. >> subway map, elisabeth has one. >> i sure do, governor, pleasure to have you here, always. coming up, he was paralyzed in a terrible accident on the football field, and now he refuses to give up looking for a cure to his injury. >> mark here live with his story, along with the miami project and all advances they're having. but first, let's check in with martha maccallum for the top of the hour. good morning. >> good morning, tough questions for the administration about how al qaeda was able to make such a come back. britt hooum here to discuss. gruesome killing in oklahoma, affect terrorism or another case of workplace violence? we'll talk about that as well. ben carson and hillary and the latest midterm polls, brand new number when we see you at the top of the hour. it's an inspiring annual event attended by athletes, hollywood celebrities, every day great people and philanthropists. all coming together to raise money for a cure for paralysis. the great sport's legends dinner celebrates the 29th year tonight, since 1985, raised more than $100 million for the miami project which is leading the world in spinal cord research. joining me right now is the president of the miami project, and with him is the 2014 u.s. open runner up, progolfer eric kovrpton. recipient of tonight's inspiration award, and mark, great to see you again, you look fantastic. eric, good to see you again. why dhuz guy get the award tonight? what did he do, mark? >> he's a personal friend, but also a real hero to mine, inspiration for millions. i mean here is a guy, every weekend, battling it out with the world's greatest golfers and surviving his third house transplant. >> at 33, runner up at the u.s. open, eric, how do you do it? >> well, we were hitting balls and you gave me a tip here in the last time. >> you told me never to play golf again. >> yeah, i mean, i've been very, very fortunate, you know, it was nice to share it with friends and family and mark, mark's been a big supporter of mine, and i'm happy to be here with him. share a great year that i had with u.s. open with everybody, and you know, i've been very, very blessed, very lucky to be a recipient of two transplants, and couldn't have done it without the donors that have saved my life. >> what you're doing is not only to get yourself out of that chair, you're also trying to get everybody else, and you are with you have done things to save people with a lifetime of paralysis. what innovations took place? >> we continue to work with hypothermia which helped kevin get out of his paralysis, out of his wheelchair, he's walking now. and now we're doing cell transplants. we had fda approval to do a cell transplant and new injuries, we've already transplantedm cels into people. we continue to monitor their progress, and we're looking forward to beginning chronic injury, people like myself that have been injured far long period of time to get -- for a long period of time to promote recovery. >> one of the people honoring a bunch of people, hosted by tom brokaugh. you just love this night. >> it charges everyone's quju)qáy pedro martinez, we're getting ready to build a new $100 million rehab facility for our clinical trials. >> to find out more the miami project and help out any way you can, mark and eric, thanks for coming here tonight, i'll see you tonight. >> thanks brian. >> back in a moment. well before we go, here's one for the road, it must be the happiest mug shot ever. man arrested and charged with a robbing a bank in denver giving a toothy grin for the camera. police caught him during his dramatic escape attempt on a train. >> my final thought is this, watch sean hannity, remember they had it out, predicted shah re law in america, he's had legal problems, he's coming back on hannity, watch tonight at 10:00. >> he was just arrested and charged, right? that's going to be fantastic. and fiery as well which is whats after the show, when we're on the internet, it gets weird. >> yeah. you become outnumbered. it's your own many outnumbered which by the way, you can listen to the radio too. >> thanks for joining us today. see you back here. same time, same couch. >> bye. >> different outfits. bill: thank you, everybody. have breaking news already now from this morning. the u.s. tomorrow will sign an agreement that leaves 10,000 american troops in afghanistan. senior advisor john podesta making that announcement in kaupe buell a moment ago. the same day that afghanistan gets its brand new leader. more details inside of "america's newsroom." first show though blaming intelligence officials for dropping the ball on isis. president obama pointing a finger at a spy chief for underestimating the vicious terror group that sprung up in iraq and more so in syria. hope you had a great weekend. i'm bill hemmer. welcome

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[ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. i am jill bandaras. this is the fox report. the first man diagnosed with ebola now in critical center. the centers for disease control and prevention cvc work to stop the transmission. thomas duncan returned to the u.s. from liberia and sent home after the first hospital visit in dallas, potentially exposing relatives and others to the deadly virus including children. his family remains in quarentine after failing to comply. anyone who is had significant contact with him is being monitored. so far no other cases were confirmed in the u.s. doctors rowelled out a case of ebola in a case of a person in washington d.c. % still, this is in texas. and a new case in new jersey. there is fear about the disease crossing across america. >> we expect to see more rumors or concerns or possibilities of cases until there is a positive laboratory test, that is what they are. rumors and concerns and in fact, we want to see more concern, but want it to be appropriate. and the concern for someone who has symptoms, fever and travelled to guiny, sierra leon or liberia in the last 21 days. >> brian has more. brian, a new one another one in new jersey, what happened? >> two scares in dc that were cleared and this one in jersey, we are waiting for cjjt)ásation to the person's diagnosis. the 35-year-old male passenger and his daughter are in university hospital in newark. he was vomiting from brussel's, belgium and told other passengers he was from liberia. and the plane landed at 12:15 and put on look down as the cvc responded. they escorted the sick man and his daughter off of the plane. immigration custom agents were held on board. passengers were held two hours and were told not to worry. >> it is nothing. and we actually at any time know who the guy was. it was four hours. okay, we were not told. >> and (inaudible) >> and this is the forum that he was talking b. tips for those possibly exposed to ebola. 250 on board and 14 crew members. no one has been infected with ebola in the united states. right now they are just scare. speaking of a scare in texas. we are hearing about thomas duncan's condition. it has worsened. >> right it has worsened. he was admitted to texas presbyterian and his four family members were taken out of the apartment that he stayed. he was moved to a private home in the gated community. homes and apartments in dallas denied them. they didn't want to house them for fear of ebola spreading. his mattress and towels were all put in sealed be destroyed and they are monitoring 50 people who may have had contact with them and checking their temperatures and no one is showing symptoms of ebola. >> he was exposed to his daughter who has children. their children went to school. >> and that's right. that is part of the fear as well as those four people sent to the private residence. one with a 13-year-old and children are involved and they are of the nine critical cases. 46 are monitored and nine critical cases that are confirmed contacts with duncan. and now, what kind of contact did they have? >> and reminder that it takes 21 days before you show symptoms. 8- 10 days at the peak. if you don't show symptoms after 21 days you are in the clear. if you are not showing symptoms you are not contagious. >> thank you, brian. >> and cvc and other agencies working to get ahead of the virus and prevent the spread to americans. peter, what is the white house doing to prevent an outbreak? >> reporter: the white house is treating it like a homeland security crisis and the president's top advisors think that reenforcing facilities that exist here in the states is the most important way to prevent an outbreak. >> i want to emphasize that the united states is equipped to handle this crisis. every ebola utbreak over 40 years has been stopped. we know how to do this and we will do it again. confident that this epidemic will be stopped. p>> there may be as many as 400 u.s. troops in west africa building hospitals and handing out splois and beef up the anti- ebola infrastructure there. >> is there any talk about closing the border and prevent sick people from coming to this country? >> reporter: there is not talk about that. and the reason is, officials think that slow down the spread of ebola, american experts need pto be able to travel freely an about west africa they are relying on the cvc and world health organization to make a call p!out that. and we heard from the cvc. >> we might wish to seal ourselves off from the world. americans have the righá of return and many other people who have the right to enter into áhe country and we'll not get to 0 risk, no matter what we do unless or until we control the outbreak in west africa and that's what we are working intensively to do. >> an nbc cameraman who tested positive for ebola on assignment in africa is expected to a ratify in nebraska medical for treatment on monday. >> and this just in from the new jersey department of health regarding the story we told you about here on fox report and the two people taken off of the daughter. according to university hospital in newark in coordination with law officials there. they evaluated those two individuals taken off of the plane, they took them off and they arrived in new york liberty airport and after examination by physician, symptoms of one man was consistent with a minor treatable condition unrelated to ebola. we heard of a potential scare where two passengers were taken off of the plane. passengers were told to stay on board as they had to quarentine two passengers and now we are getting confirmation that the two individuals are going to be released with self monitoring and they do the not have ebola. and we'll follow the ebola crisis and bring you the latest. tune in tomorrow for fox news sunday. chris wallace speaks to the doctor of allergy and infectious diseases dr. anthony fauci. what do you think the u.s. government should do to handle the ebola crisis from entering our country? travel restrictions? better screening and tweet your answers@juliebandaras. i want to hear what your ideas are on this growing crisis. and moving to thugs who call themselves isis out with a new warning to the united states, saying that a former army ranger taken prisoner in syria is next to be scouted. his name is peter ca suck. he converted to ilam and now he's next and he served a tour of duty in iraq and running a humanitarian mission when he was captured in lebanon next year ka ssig's parents called him a man who deplores violence against anyone. >> his organization gave food and cooking supplies and medicine to those in need. he grew to love and admire the syrian people and imnor his captures to show mercy and let our son go. >> this after prime minister cameron reacts and calling his death unforgivable. and only reenforces why the world needs to destroy isis now. leland viter has the latest from washington. >> reporter: julie, it took the national security council to confirm peter ka ssig is in the hands of isis. they said essentially he's next. allen hening was kidnapped and held by isis. hening made a statement minutes before his execution and on the tape what is the same masked executioner spokes with a strong british acent ka ssig would be next. he was a army ranger and was medically discharged in 2007. he went to the middle east as an aide worker and abducted in lebanon helping syrian refugee and turned over to isis. it was not publicly reported until now. and his parents took to youtube to issue a desperate plea. >> we are so proud of you and the work you have done to bring humanitarian aid to the syrian people. we implore those who are holding you to show mercy and use their power to let you go. >> in recent weeks isis executed their videos. it is unclear how many hostages isis holds. the national security council said they would use every tool at their disposal including the u.s. military to bring peter home. >> texas republican congressman ralph hall is in stable condition in a hospital in plano, texas following a car accident. he is 91 years old and the holdest serving members of congress. his office releasing a statement he was a wake and joking with paramedics as he was flown to the hospital. he suffered a hip injury and minor cuts and bruises. hall lost a primary challenge this year and will leave office this year after 17 terms. the homeland security secretary is promising to reform the agency as the secret service is blasted for a security breach including a former iraq war to hop the white house fence and make it all t$e way in the east room before being apprehended by an off duty çagent. >> very plainly the secret service is an agency that merits review. it is an organization that needs the unqualified confidence of the president and congress and the public. >> homeland security jay johnson promising to transform and reform the secret service. the agency under fire following multiple security lapses including a former iraq war veteran who hopped the white house fence and made it in the east room before being apprehended by an off duty agent. julia pierson resigned yesterday. molly has more from washington. molly? >> reporter: homeland security secretary johnson said he's focused on rebuil"ing the country's trust and confidence in the secret service. and part of that promise he said is not only replacing julia pierson but opening up the secret service to external executiny. >> the secret service was never the subject of an outside independent review. and so we are going to look at security around the white house compound and i invited the panel. >> this follows security breaches including september 19th incident and a fence jumper with a knife made it in the east room of the white house. three days before that an armed security guard rode on the elevator with president obama and a man posing as a democratic congressman made it back stage and he was turned away from the line to get a picture of the picture. this has caused president obama and the congress to lose faith in pierson. and clamsy a former special agent in charming was working in the private sector before the obama administration called. >> he's a good man and got character and served on the presidential detail. important thing everybody respects him and wants to follow him. and permanent secretary of state they will consider inside and outsidof the agency. in washington, fox news. >> right now. authorities are trying to figure out who sent a threatening e-mail to a student in one of the nation's top universities where it may have originated and new information on the young girl whose family refused to give up hope after doctors said comp&ications from surgery. tonight, the video that her family said proves she is very much alive. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. thank you. ordering chinese food is a very predictable experience. i order b14. i get b14. no surprises. buying business internet, on the other hand, can be a roller coaster white knuckle thrill ride. you're promised one speed. but do you consistently get it? 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isis is trying to cant are cabani for two weeks and u.s. led air strikes are working to drive them back. greg is in turkey not far from the border with syria greg? >> reporter: julie, the world reels from the latest horrors from the isij terrorist group, they are dealing with a bloody rampage of the militants. we watched in cabane was hit by isis. u.s. tanks seized by the terrorist from the iraqi military. and with a massacre looming, local syrian and kurdish fighters did the best for them to hold them off. one shell hit not far inside turkey and wounding a policemen. and turkish policemen clashed with protestors and they are angry that turkey is not doing going to push isis back from cabani. the turbish miliáary is authorizeed to join in the fight and the government is reluctant to get involved in a complicated fight. and today is the start of the muslim holiday of ede. marked by many here including the 180000 refugees who fled from isis and syria in the past week or so. they are telling tales that are all too familiar. slaughter of children and beheadings and rape and torture. it is believed that three americans are fighting alongside the defender ares of the town of cabani against isis and known that americans in the isis ranks. very eerooishgs e. julie. >> greg, thank you. >> turning to hong kong. people are defying communist china. the scene appeared calmer, and prodemocracy protestors staging a massive rally that they occupied. hong kong's leader urged protestors to leave. saying that hong kong must return to normal by monday. david has the latest. >> reporter: hi, julie. hong kong's chief executive is talking tough about clearing the streets of protestors. he will take all actions necessary to insure government offices and schools reopen on monday. it is the strongest comments yet poi him and fears that the police might move against the activist. and tens of thousands joined an anti- violence after clashes overnight. and groups of business owners and/beijing supporters and the fighting erupted in various parts of the city and business owners and supporters attempted to dismantle the camps and the local media who run businesses in hong kong were involved. police arrested members. and they said police refused to intervene. and they deny this. in response protestors have spurned talks with the the government. % they say the government is not giving them enough attention. and the chief executive strongly condemned the violence and warned it would continue until the protestors left the streets. activist surrounded a number of government businesses including the chief executive office and there are scuffles. they want full democracy and in return/beijing's vetting candidates. it is tense in hong kong with no end in sight. >> thank you. new information on the case two british tourist murdered in southeast aárp we'll have that as we go around the world in 80 seconds. >> thailand. two men from burma charged with the the deathj of two 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"on the record" right now. let's face it. this is escalating. it is getting worst. isis terrorists gained control of an iraqi military training camp. that is a bad sign. we take you live to iraq where conditions are deterioratindete first to texas. tonight new information on the first person to contract ebola on american soil. she is a dallas nurse who treated the patient who died from ebola and it is not us saying ebola could spread. it is the head of the cdc. the cdc director warning he would not be surprised if more people get sick in the coming days. alicia is live in dallas. >> reporter: we actually have breaking news. the university of kansas hospital in kansas city, kansas is reporting that they now have a patient in an isolated portion of the hospital because he or she called ahead and arrived with a high fever and ebola-like symptoms. this patient recently worked on a medical boat on the west coast of africa. here in dallas the cdc says the nurse who contracted ebola from thomas duncan is clinically stable. she was part of the team treating him while he was in isolation before he died. because she was wearing gowns, gloves, masks, the director of the cdc says there should be expectation more people will be diagnosed. dr. freeden saying he was not trying to blame the nurse. she is not the enemy here he said, the virus is. he said this teaches more education needs to be done for the nation's hospitals and the agency needs to change how it addresses the spread of the disease and tells hospitals to think ebola. when patients walk in with ebola symptoms and travelled. the oeshed press reported 70 workers helped to treat duncan. cdc says right now it is trying to create a map of potential exposu exposure. that means they are talking to anyone who could have possibly come into contact with the nurse or duncan. he said they will make a large map and start narrowing it down from there. >> thank you. now cdc director saying we have to rethink the way we address ebola. rethink? well, that means there is a problem with how it is being done now. good evening, doctor. >> good evening. >> doctor, does the information about the nurse and apparently she followed the protocol, is there something wrong? is there a defect in protocol for health care workers working with people who may have ebola? >> i think there are extra measures that could be put into place to protect health care workers that are treating ebola patients. there are differences in existing protocols. i know that the cdc protocol is somewhat different from the msf protocol especially when it comes to infection control measures. according to msf guidelines after removing personal protective equipment you are sprayed with a chlorine solution. that is what we did in liberia. i think that as an extra measured safety because you are insuring that if there is ebola virus that is on your gloves, on your gown, by spraying bleach on yourself you are actually insuring that the virus will die and basically providing an extra layer of protection. >> that seems to pak a lot of sense especially since msf has done well with health care workers in liberia. we have the situation in dallas with the health care worker. why wasn't cdc doing stricter protocols? >> i don't know the answer to that. i think dr. frieden would be the one to answer that question. however, i think this is a great opportunity to revise existing protocols and see how we can as a nation and community provide an extra measure of safety to all health care workers that will be exposed to ebola patients. i think there will be more ebola patients coming. i think we need to make sure that all health care workers are safe. >> before we get to the more alarming statement that there would be more ebola patients coming i'm curious, ebola i'm told if you come in contact with blood or vomit or a liquid material, how long is this contagious? if you have blood that has been infected with ebola, how long does that virus remain contagious? >> ebola virus can remain in a bodily fluid primarily in blood for several days. >> and i take that is true of vomit, as well or on clothes, the same thing. >> that's correct. you want to be extra careful. >> the statement made that you expect more, that is a grim statement, the head of the cdc has said that, as well. why do you think that? because those are the odds? why do you say that? >> i think we have seen an increase in the number of ebola patients in west africa and there is a lot of travel. we live in a world where people cross borders. i'm not surprised that we are seeing ebola patients here in the united states. i think it was a matter of time. i think what we need to do now is prepare ourselves. we need to encourage hospitals to have more training. we need to do more drills and really make sure everybody is prepared. >> as i understand it you are the doctor who gave the experimental drug to dr. brantly in liberia. did you help administer that drug? >> that's correct. and the physician who administered to ken brantly. >> what was that like? just when one of your own and you have an experimental drug from canada, what was that like? >> you know, we weren't sure if ken brantly was going to survive. i was with him on july 31 when his clinical status deteriorated. i wasn't sure he was going to survive and all i could think of was his family. i thought of his wife amber and of his two children. and i prayed and i really asked god, i told god, i said i don't want him to die. i want him to see his family again. we had given him every known treatment. we had given him supportive care, iv fluids, antibiotics. he received potassium to supplement his electrolytes. he received every single treatment available for ebola that is known. he had this experimental drug and the drug had been brought in on a canoe. initially dr. braptly refused to receive it and wanted nancy writebold to receive it. he was either going to die or we thought we could give him a chance to survive by administering this drug. it was very complicated because it had never been tested in a human being before. there had never been a clinical trial. >> it is just amazing what you did. i hope you come back because i fear we will have a lot more to talk about in the next days and weeks to come. thank you, doctor. >> thank you. this is a fox news alert. a change in american strategy in iraq. it is expanding. now u.s. manned helicopters for -- chairman of joint chiefs of staff saying isis got within 15 miles of the airport. good evening and tell me what is going on in baghdad right now? >> reporter: the situation in baghdad is pretty tense after the latest by general dempsey about isis trying to infiltrate the international airport. engaging targets with apache helicopter in the vicinity probably engaging splinter cells in the area. this is the first time the united states announces using helicopters in this battle against isis. taking into consideration that isis has recently changed methods of operation. they stopped moving in large convoys and using small numbers of vehicle transporting between locations. according to field officers and some of the militias on the battlefield they said it is almost secured. some units of isis and [ inaudible ] this is by the government and the united states of america. >> thank you very much. a senior u.s. official telling fox news isis making other big gains near baghdad seizing a key gateway to baghdad. ed henry live with the latest. >> reporter: that military base is in the town on a highway leading to baghdad. as the pentagon continues to insist that the capital of iraq is not in jeopardy the facts on the ground continue to tell a much different story. the apache helicopters were brought in because of fears that general dempsey admits and says they had about a week or so ago that maybe baghdad was in some jeopardy. they pushed back with the apache helicopters and other methods. the bottom line is we are seeing trouble on the syrian side of this, as well. the city continues to be in jeopardy. it has been for days now. our own has been on the ground there and he says the u.s.-led air strikes have had impact in slowing isis down. they are not stopping them. they continue to make gains both on the syrian side and the iraqi side of the border. that is big trouble for the president and the administration because they signaled no change in strategy in terms of going beyond air strikes and sending ground troops. that is something general dempsey left the door open to. the president's national security council says the president has not seen benefit to sending ground troops. >> what is the level of alarm at the white house about this? this is a change in circumstance. it is getting worse. there are no good signs. >> there is not at all. in fact, there is a local official today told bloomberg news this is completely desieged. when talking about the key city in anbar. they are under siege. this local official said it will be overrun and it is important because there is the second largest dam in iraq that will be overrun in days unless the u.s. does more to help. the president's side is he has been trying to help inside iraq as well as syria. it does not appear that the air strikes alone are doing the job. we expect iraqi security forces to be the ground troops. they are not doing that. on the syrian side moderate rebels are not fully trained yet. no secret we know isis is barbaric. first beheading american and british hostages and bragging about capturing, selling, enslaving women and children and using religious reasons to justify horrible treatment of women and children. for more on this nice to have you back. tell me, they are now bragging about what they do to women and children. >> this has been going on for a little while and the state department said it a few days ago and said there were about 1,000 taken down and up to 4,000 women and girls abducted by isis. >> where are they being captured? all over iraq and syria? are they all in one spot? >> they are being brought back to different isis training camps and brought in and sold within that group as wives for the fighters. >> how are they justifying this? >> religiously. they are saying somehow this is permitted under their version of islam that fighters are allowed to have this to help resist temptation of women otherwise. >> are they killing the women? >> there are executions of women who resist. there are executions of women reportedly who were not, were believed to not be married just because they didn't have children and are resisting, as well. >> as i understand it they are putting the faek effect on the internet. >> this is the total dehumanization of a population and a way to show they can reward their own fighters as they will no matter american air strikes or resistance of iraqi government and populations. this is total power on the part to go into the communities to the most vulnerable people, children, young girls and do what they will. >> do you see anything going in the right direction or is this growing? >> i get a lot of pentagon reports on what is happening. the number of air strikes is definitely back on the rise it seems. >> effective? >> effectiveness depends. i think we need more time to see what is happening. they are being hit more outside the capital but the reasons there are more air strikes is more targets need to be hit. >> any discussion about boots on the ground? >> not that i know of. >> no one is mentioning that. >> it is not american boots. you can't get enough iraqis to fight. you can't get the other countries in the region to do it. the most pressing shift is whether to have a no fly zone. turkey would be the first to let its boots on the ground come in and help. then you are talking about fighting assad and that changes everything. >> thank you. joining us representative. >> it is just horrific. it is repulsive. >> i guess the beheadings was bad enough. and they are threatening another one coming up. we are hearing stories about what they are doing to women and children. how does this stop? >> and in this, this is the fourth english language digital edition of their barbaric acts where they put horrific photos so that everybody sees this is the part of their campaign. and one of the last entries in this magazine called the final chapter or something like that, the final crusade, they publish the letter, a etaller supposedly written by constituent, one of the beheaded journalists, his last letter to his mom. they say in that publication that just because he was jewish was enough to merit the beheading. we see this glorification of sexual slavery saying it is written in law that men are allowed to take the women of the infidels and have forced marriage, sexual slavery and selling girls as young as 8 years old. they say that is their right according to their law. >> what is our obligation or our responsibility or our duty, if any? where do we draw the line for us as we watch this? >> we have wonderful groups like human rights watch. they just put out a great report about -- to let people know. >> that tells what happens. are we supposed to do anything? are we obligated or do we watch this? >> we can't just watch it. we cannot be watching modern day slavery and beheadings and raping children before our eyes. it is time to take action. let's get this white house engaged and tell the truth to the american people. i think that more people will join us in this fight. this is going on and these guys are not ashamed of it. they are publicizing it. let's save this generation. >> there will be a lot more if saudi arabia could help, too. >> congress woman, thank you very much. straight ahead u.s. war planes in iraq forced to hold fire. chairman of joint chief sending new warning. you can't make this up. crazy clowns terrifying an american town with machetes. is it your town? you pay your auto insurance premium every month on the dot. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? 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is success destroying buildings, vehicles or fighters, we don't know. this is a failure of the obama administration. we need to look forward and see what are the goals here. >> if you are looking at goals. the signs is we have anbar being taken over by isis. we have khobani being overrun by isis and isis 15 miles outside baghdad and isis hiding from our planes trying to kill from above. we have isis killing women and selling them into slavery and children as young as 8, as well. i would not say that the overall campaign has been profoundly successful though i admire our military for trying so hard. >> this is an attempt by the obama administration to put a political stitch in before the november election. if we wanted to solve the problem we need to bomb them like berlin in world war ii. we sent the troops in afterwards to make sure the job was done. that is the only effective way to complete this task. >> if we don't, what happens? just stumble along like we are doing it? >> i talked about it in my book that iraq would fall and we would be back fighting this war again. we fight this same war every decade in the same region. baghdad will fall, i believe. >> baghdad, i don't know, we may not be there when it falls. we only have ten seconds left. i would like to see other nations help. i'm talking about saudi arabia mostly. >> absolutely they should. countries like france are helping. thank you. >> thank you. let's go off the record. this is a test for all muslims in the united states especially those who lead mosques and call themselves moderates. isis said it will execute american peter cassig. he is a muslim having converted to islam and an american. isis kidnapped him in syria and isis plans to behead him citing the quran as justification. american muslim leaders you must condemn the isis interpretation and demand release of this innocent captive. this is an important test about you and the contents of the quran and your interpretation of it. we need to keep hearing until isis has been wiped from the earth. right now an innocent american muslim's life is on the line. silence is not an option. that is my off the record comment tonight. straight ahead, the nation is on edge with response. so is president obama. the clock is ticking. mid term elections 22 days away. will republicans take control of the senate or not? 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>> dodging whether she voted for president obama. >> and kentuckiens expect her to cast a tough vote. >> can republicans take the senate? joining us now, rick, first to you. if the republicans take the senate and get ready because you will have the flip question, how does it change people's lives in america? what does it mean? >> it means that we will have more bad washington functioning because we have at least another two years of absolute grid lock. i think it will be a position that the president will have to decide do i start to sign off of some things or a couple of things i may not have loved and reposition ourselves. i think it will be the warmup act. i think the real impact is felt in 2016. no one will expect a burst of legislating. it is not going to be a pretty picture. >> if democrats maintain control of the senate what does it mean? >> i think you have more of the same. it will be the same leadership and more grid lock. there might be if they hold it by one and they lose a bunch of senators in red states and hillary is under pressure starting her campaign over obamacare there might be some bipartisan work where democrats see they want to fix part of the law. that could be the most i could hope for. i don't see big bills passing. i see a lot of polarization. >> i see that it is momentum. whoever wins gets momentum going into 2016. going into the mid terms it is everything. >> the odds are in favor of republicans taking the senate right now. i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. i wouldn't be surprised if we woke up and found that they won ten senate seats. if you look at the races everyone is looking at polling averages which are slim margins. republicans have small lead in a couple of states. >> if you look back harry reid was supposed to lose in 2010. he was down by like three percentage points and ended up winning by five points. the polls can be wrong. they have been wrong in the past. there is also two weeks left in the election and a lot can change. >> is this a statement of the president to see if the country is worthy? >> it is a statement he can't go anywhere. he is going to do a campaign event for a governor in connecticut. he cannot venture to places that determine the election. this will be the final judgment on the obama era and the idea that he could lose the senate even after seeing states like colorado and iowa being the final which is extraordinary. >> listen to this, texas gubernatorial candidate wendy davis sticking to guns defending her nasty campaign ad targeting greg abbott. he has been confined to a wheelchair for years. >> a tree fell on greg abbott. he sued and got millions. since then he spent his career working against other victims. >> today davis defending that ad staged an event surrounding herself with disability rights activists including two people in wheel chairs. your thoughts for wendy davis tonight. >> she dug in and she wants to defend the ad and say his record in terms of victims' rights and it is still a good issue for her campaign. i am stunned by this. everybody says it is desperate and clearly is. i thought she was running knowing she was setting herself up as a formidable presence in the state for leader of the democratic party there and possible future senator when the time was right if the state purples up eventually. what she has done in the campaign has been really disappointing. the ad is truly embarrassing. >> i think she turned out to be a terrible politician. she had a great personal story and then going along the edge which she didn't have to do. it is like she is going out of her way to shoot herself in the foot. >> i wonder if she is giving up on texas politics like she wants to be the next michael moore or next msnbc host or not even interested in winning anymore. i think it is crazy in the first place that she would have given the fact she took out such a hard line stance on abortion i don't think she was in a position to win in texas. this shows me she basically is giving up. >> what is the most fascinating? >> i love the kansas race. you have sam brown embattled. i love scott walker's race. >> florida is great, as well. >> you have the class of governors elected in 2010 and then obama in '08. you have the tea party wave in '10 and obama in '08. you can see a bunch of republican governors. >> i love the wisconsin one because i am from wisconsin. what race do you like the most? >> i agree with florida. when i see people going down like hillary clinton and vice president biden to help out charlie crist it is hard to believe. she needs that state in her corner. i really do as we discussed i think he is going to win. it is just unbelievable. most floridaens tell you they don't have a good choice. the outcome will be a surprise. >> walker? >> walker looks like he has the edge right now. that is a really important race. in 2016 if walker wins it is almost certain he is going for president. if he doesn't that reshapes the presidential race. >> thank you. don't forget to watch hannity tonight. he has on texas attorney general greg abbott responding to the wendy davis ad. straight ahead a gut wrenching plea from the parents of uva co-ed. you will hear from heart broken parents. plus brace yourself. this is a fact. clowns with machetes and baseball bats menacing a local american town. you have to see it to believe it and you will coming up. 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>> i think the tips continue to come in. i know there were over 3,000 about a week ago. i think it has probably slowed at this point. they seem to be getting calls and information that they are following up on. >> jesse matthews in custody charged with her kidnapping. they clearly think he has something to do with this. they kidnapped her. they must have more information, i hope. >> they have something. they have something that allowed them to say that there is this forensic link. they charged him with abduction with intent to defile. what they have as far as evidence they have been keeping quiet about. >> how are the students in the area? are they worried? feeling insecure in terms of being out late at night or do they think the guy who did it is in jail and safe? >> initially in the first weeks afterwards i know there was a lot of anxiety and talk about safety. that is going on still. i do feel like it has quieted down and that level of anxiety seems to be dropping off a little. i certainly hope people are continuing to take precautions. it does seem like the high level of anxiety and intensity has settled. >> certainly it's been one month ago tonight and every day that goes by gets bleaker. elizabeth smart came home. maybe the family will get lucky on this one. courtney, thank you very much. we will continue to follow it. thank you. >> thank you. this is bizarre but real. it sounds like a horror movie but it is not. crazy clowns armed with mu hachs and baseball bats terrorizing an american town. find out where next. ♪ [safety beeping] ♪ [safety beeping] ♪ [safety beeping] ♪ the nissan rogue, with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is your imagination. ♪ nissan. innovation that excites. they all lost their lives because of preventable medical errors, now the third leading cause of death. only heart disease and cancer take more lives. proposition 46 will save lives with drug and alcohol testing to make sure impaired doctors don't treat someone you love. safeguards against prescription drug abuse. and holds the medical industry accountable for mistakes. i'm barbara boxer. let's save lives. vote yes on 46. police say they believe this started with someone copying the likeness of the clown named for a small town not far from bakersfield, part of an art project gone viral by a husband and wife team who photographed themselves looking scary and post it online. police say they received 20 reports of weapon wielding clowns roaming the streets of bakersfield and it is not because of just scary faces but apparently carrying weapons everything from bats to machetes and one report of a clown with a gun. police say by the time they show up to reports the >> there are all sorts of clowning projects around the world really that are meant to scare people. police say they are not taking this lightly at all whether a joke or not. they want to stop it and they want to stop it now. >> this next story may be long war finally trek each other down and older but their friendship is stronger than ever. >> 38 years. that's how long it took these vietnam vets and best friends to finally reunite. >> i love you, buddy. i love you. >> their story begins in 1971. the two serving aboard the "uss white plains" a supply ship where they were exposed to agent orange. >> i was 17, he was 18. they called us m&m. >> but after the war, in an era before the internet, unable to find each other. rick tried to reach out at a denver gas station in 1976. he did have a phone book and five bucks worth of change. >> call them up. is this joe martinez? yes. were you in the navy? nope. sorry. you know? >> reporter: and now, nearly four decades later, this letter finally connecting the two veterans. >> i've been trying to reach you. you were my best friend. >> reporter: at long last, they reuniting. >> feels the same. we're old now. >> is this joe martinez? rick! >> you could just feel love over the air waves. >> i haven't been this happy since i don't remember. >> i'm going to cry for the rest of my life thinking about this day. >> and the vets are now sharing the memories with their families and they promise never to let 40 years go by again. coming up, tornado threats right now. millions of americans under the tornado threat. janice dean is here with the very latest next. feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates. ♪ want to change the world? create things that help people. design safer cars. faster computers. smarter grids and smarter phones. think up new ways to produce energy. ♪ be an engineer. solve problems the world needs solved. what are you waiting for? 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"hardball" starts right now. four tuesdays from now. let's play "hardball." ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. i promised you a big inside look at the 2014 election tonight. and the fight tonight, the fight, the fighters, the nastiest contest to come. before we're done this evening, you'll know where the excitement lies. who has the momentum and what the stakes are if the democrats lose this big one. let's take a look. ♪ >> i may wander and i may rome, but i'll never be far from home. you're in my heart, you're arkansas, you run deep in me. vote your heart. >> senator, you seem to think that the president is on the bat lot this year. he's not. this race is between me and you and the people of kentucky and we intend to hold you accountable for your years of failed leadership. >> my home is dodge city and i'm damn proud of it. >> well, i suspect, senator, i've been to dodge city more this year than you have. [ cheers and applause ] >> senator ernst would have voted to shut down the federal government with ted cruz. she's called president obama a dictator and thinks impeachment should be on the table. >> congressman, you threatened to sue a neighbor over chickens that came on to your property. you're talking about bipartisanship, how do we expect as iowans to believe that you will walk across the aisle when you can't walk across your yard? >> there's only way, to go in a different direction, that's to change the senate and make me the leader of a new majority to take america in a different direction. >> if we keep stepping up and bringing others along, i know we can keep making that change we believe in. i know we can elect mary burke has governor of wisconsin, thank you all so much. god bless. >> there she is, looking good. joining me now, washington post opinion writer jonathan capehart. and the great proffer larry sab toe, from the university's center for politics. we're going to go right now, to how the republicans could win the u.s. senate. for republicans to take over the senate, their clearest path to victory flows this way. first, they take south dakota, montana, and west virginia. then they work their way through alaska, followed by a march into the deep south to try to capture arkansas and louisiana. ask then up to iowa. let's take a look at the face us of the contenders who populate this path to victory if the republicans get it. and discuss a counter attack. south dakota, a three-way race, rick whelan, and the senator for many years, along with mike rounds. an average shows rounds with a double-digit lead. montana, democrat amanda curtis versus steve danes, the polling average has danes with a double-digit lead as well. west virginia, republican cap toe maintains a healthy lead. so let's say republicans win these three. now it starts to get harder for them. the following races are all close. alaska, mark begins versus dan silva. sullivan is up by a hair. to the deep south, mark pryor and tom cotton are neck and neck right now. on to louisiana where the state's open primary format has the incumbent fending off bill catsly and rob mannis. iowa, bruce braley is in the fight of his life against the hog casterator, joni ernst. there we have it. let me go to larry sab toe who i watch all the time on this. three of them look good for the republicans. that's south dakota, montana, west virginia. then it gets more difficult. alaska, arkansas, louisiana, and then to win the thing, assuming what's happening -- will hurt them the republicans in kansas, they got to win iowa. how doesaarj that look to you? >> i think that's about right. i would say iowa is the most probable sixth or seventh seat if they have to win seven because they lose kansas, or colorado. you might want to throw colorado in there. those are probably the two most critical seats, assuming they can really knock off the democratic incumbents in the south. you didn't mention kay hagan. >> i don't think she's going to lose. that's why. >> she's ahead. >> i want to go right now to that one, but look at the first. this is the path to victory. this is sherman's march to the sea, if you will. if they make it to the sea. >> right. the key thing here, the one thing no one's talking about, but should pay attention to, the african american vote. that is the vote that could be the thing that keeps the senate in democratic hands. and i bring that up in three races. arkansas, which is on your list, louisiana, which is on your list. you think kay hagan is going to win north carolina, and it looks good for her right now, but if the polls close up and kay hagan is hanging on, it's the african american vote there that could push her over. now, in louisiana we've seen races where senator landrieu has eeked out a win and it's because african americans -- >> we're looking at numbers that don't show a lot of intensity on the liberal side of things. >> exactly. i know the history says that african american voters and actual the obama coalition doesn't come out and vote in mid term elec to people, there are two things you have to look at it. the one, the virginia gubernatorial race, 2013, terry mccullough against ken kuch nelly. people didn't think mccaulliffe was going to win. baugh the african american was there. the second thing to look at, african american voters are pretty angry, they're angry about voting rights, they're angry about ferguson -- >> they're a little angry at the president. >> and the secret service threats against the president. >> that too. >> they're angry with the president because things haven't happened, but they're more angry about the things that are happening to them by way of republican obstruction, the supreme court doing what it did on voting rights. and also a feeling that they need to have the president's back. >> who's going to get at them and make the change for the polling right now, you and the first lady, you're both in. she's been great. we saw a bit of her in wisconsin. but i don't hear the president out there campaigning, angry kivative whites don't want to see him. >> that we know. but the president's been campaigning, doing fund raisers. he's not doing them in the states, but he's raising tons of money for the dccc and getting the message out. >> as excited as you are, i would have no doubt about the turnouts. anyway, republicans could use this to add to th majority if they have a good day four weeks from tonight. in kansas, greg orman, he'll organize with whatever wins. tom tillis, beats kay hagan. i don't think he's going to do. nor republican corey gardner if he beats udall, same in new hampshire. scott brown wins against the incumbent who happens to live in new hampshire. what do you think the chances are of a real sweep, where the republicans don't just take the senate, they really it up to the mid 50s? >> very minimal. you can cut michigan right out of there, chris. [ all speak at once ] >> absolutely. look, it's not only over it's been over for months and months. we've never had that race out in the democratic column. and some of the others are real stretches that you just mentioned. look, this is not a slam dunk for the republicans. a year ago they thought they were going to run up 52, 53, 54 seats, and i heard numbers larger than that. hasn't turned out that way. it's a six-year itch election, but the itch is really not very deep. >> isn't their opportunity to broad sweep elections they could win, they could win south dakota, montana, west virginia, arkansas, louisiana, and iowa. but they could also pick up a vote because orman from kansas says i'll go with whatever wins. that's another vote to add to them. and i do think the race in north carolina is tricky because you're in virginia. for some weird reason, north carolina -- and i went to grad school and i'm going there this weekend -- they move to the right. i don't know why and i don't think that can be good for kay hagan. >> well, look, it's possible that tillis could win. there are 28 days to go, you never know what's going to happen. she has been the great survivor of the election. >> i agree. >> i tend to think she's going to hang on. what's much more important is kansas. that is the real fly in the ointment for the republicans. and a year ago, who could have imagined that kansas might stand in the way of republicans gaining the senate. for orman, if he wins and he's ahead right now in the polling averages, if he wins, the question is going to be, is she going to join the republican caucus after he's had the stuffing beat out of him and a couple million dollars of television ads that they're going to fund, or is he going to think about his re-election in 2020? he'd have a better chance as a republican candidate. >> that's what i think. what do you think the headline's going to be in the "the washington post", your paper, wednesday morning after the election? democrats hold on, keep the senate, or republicans pick up the senate in a closer vote than expected? >> i'm going to make you mad and say it could be either one. right now to this point -- >> in the tradition, of david broder, he never predicted either. >> right now, i would say democrats hang on to the senate by a finger nail. >> black vote key. >> absolutely. black vote key. >> larry, can you say what you think the headline will be wednesday morning after the election? will the democrats hold on and hold the senate? >> yes, i can predict the headline precisely, chris. the headline is, senate up in air. louisiana's going to have a run-off. georgia could easily have a run-off in january, not december like louisiana. it's going to take a week at least to figure out who's won alaska and there's bound to be one or two other squeakers. we're not going to know who is controlling the senate for a while after november 4th. >> there's a prediction. i think landrieu will have a hard time in the run-off. i think that's going to be tough for her to hold. anyway, thank you. alaska comes in late and georgia sometimes in january. it's incredible. thank you, jonathan capehart, larry sab toe, as brilliant as ever. stay with us now, the entire hour for our special report on the upcoming november elections. we'll look at the races that will decide control. the hottest races coming up right now. get the "zeitgeist" feeling and get predictions from a round table on which way this wind is headed. we'll also have the most memorable campaign ads of the year. and my favorite part of any election night, the concession speeches because they're the one real part of american politics. this is a special edition of "hardball," four weeks before the mid term elections. brad. an totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends. three jobs. you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement, we'll pay for a car that's a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. 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(vo) well played, business pro. well played. go national. go like a pro. four weeks from now, on election night itself we'll be watching the winners of course, but the concession speeches from the losing speeches are often the most dramatic moments in politics. a 1952 concession to eisenhower is among the most well respected speeches ever. it has grace, patriotism, and humor. >> someone asked me as i came in down on the street how i felt. and i was reminded of a story that a fellow townsman of ours used to tell, abraham lincoln. they asked him how he felt once after an unsuccessful election -- >> we want -- >> he said, he said he felt like a little boy who had stubbed his toe in the dark. and it -- that he was too told to cry, but it hurt too much to laugh. >> that was one of the best. and in 1978, ed brook lost to sagas. brook never mentioned sagas financial troubles during the campaign. and in his concession speech, he praised him for that. >> i want to congratulate paul saunders for the quality of his campaign. i want to congratulate him for the honorable manner in which he has conducted this campaign. when we were down in the valley, i did not cry. i cried out. and you answered that cry, and you have shown your faith and your confidence. >> in the valley, down in the valley, i did not cry. that's one of the best ones. and we'll see if any of the losing candidates four weeks from now can match that for being honest, and a little bit of elquens won't hurt. we'll be right back. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates. again, i will continue to support the rff and do that as your next united states senator. >> if i could respond, i'm not sure that's what senator ernst told the koch brothers when she went to their secret meetings. >> congressman braley, you're not running against these other people. you're running against me. i am a mother, i am a soldier, and i am an independent leader. >> president obama's name is not on the ballot. and i'm not going to owe president obama anything on election day. you're going to owe the koch brothers everything. >> pretty tough. welcome back to "hardball." that was democrat bruce braley and republican joni ernst, who calls herself the pig casterator. she's doing well. iowa has turned out to be crucial this cycle. i think it will decide the election. along with states like new hampshire, and north carolina. where the "hardball" team will be this weekend to interview senator kay hagan. iowa is a must-win for democrats. most people believe that. and republicans are poised to win in arkansas where msnbc casey is, following former president bill clinton's travel stumping for embattled democrat senator mark pryor. i thought bill was coming home to touch base for hillary clinton coming back in 2016. he was saying, i've roamed, i've wandered, but i'm home. i get the sense it's about more than just this election. your thoughts? >> i think that's certainly part of it. with the clintons, it's always about the future. but in this case, it was a little bit about the past. these candidates are people who have been in his political life for decades. mike ross was his driver, now running for governor. mark pryor, trying to hold on to his senate seat. his father was closes to bill clinton for a long time. he brings something to the race that barack obama can't. bill clinton appeals to the african american voters you were talking about earlier on the show. but also to the rural white voters, the ones that are not happy with president obama this time around. and that was a message that bill clinton brought to these kraucr here. he rallied at college campuses, he's looking for young votes. but what he said, republicans are trying to make this about president obama. president has really only two years left. the senator you choose is going to be in there for six and that you should look past that sort of lens. he acknowledged the fraught history of race that's present here in arkansas. he talked about what it was like to be here during the civil rights era and how the state has changed for the better since then. he made this pitch to students, to look forward to the future, try not to let republicans define it a certain way. if you think about congressman to the cotton, he's one of the more conservative members in the house. he's a different kind of republican than arkansas has even -- even in some of the rest of the arkansas delegation, he's campaigning with huckabee on thursday. cotton and huckabee are two very different kinds of republicans. >> casey, we got to go. we'll be following you on the campaign. joining me now for a deeper dive into some of the hottest senate races this coming month, democratic strategist david axelrod and republican strategist. let me ask you about iowa. this thing about castration got a lot of attention. people accused her of being a lightweight. she's no lightweight. >> first of all, being called a lightweight going into a debate is a great advantage because the bar is low and she's exceeded the bar and she's been helped by those encounters. i think iowa is, i agree with you, i think iowa will be the pivotal state in this whole constellation and it's very, very close. she's got momentum. she's got charisma. but democrats have great organization there. one of the things that's giving democrats some confidence there is the early vote, the applications for absentee ballots, or early vote ballots are coming in in the same proportion they did in 2012 on a partisan basis. their analysis suggests they'll go into election day with a three or four-point lead. so she'll have to be more than that ahead in order to win on election day. so it's really organization versus momentum and charisma, and we'll see. >> what i keep reading, hthere' a tremendous number of numbers about the feeling of the country. the liberals are down. they don't want to get out there and vote. the democrat moderate, progressives, they don't have it. the right, they're angry, they're going to show up. that's the way it looks now. in iowa, i think it's going to help her. >> this isn't a shot at david's client, but i do think a lot of that is the president of the united states. i don't think the liberals are enthused. i don't think they're excited about the direction, about some of the decisions that he's made. there's another interesting thing going on that i haven't heard many people talk about. in a lot of close races -- >> let's stick with this in iowa. the latest poll has braley the democrat, and ernst tied at 46 for ernst and 44 for braley. but for republicans ahead now, given intensity and voter turn-out, they'll win. >> i think she will win. i also think in some sense because she was the underdog, she's seen as the challenger, versus him being the incumbent. that's why democrats have a lot of trouble coming up in arkansas, louisiana, north carolina. because even though those races might be close, the democrat is way below 50 in those seats. >> i look at this anlitically. i know you don't want to end up like panetta and think the republicans are going to win, should be a loyalist. but i'm looking at one state that could throw everything out and that's new hampshire. if scott brown can waltz across the border and show up in that state and actually win a senate seat after losing one in a bordering state, it shows the wind was at this guy's back like you can't believe. the latest cbs poll from new hampshire shows jeanne shaheen with a seven-point lead, but it's been bouncing all over the place. i'm not sure of that because in other polls he's been very close. can he win? >> what i believe is that shaheen's going to win. if brown wins that race, i don't think it's going to be 50 or 51 republican majority. it will be more than that, because it will mean there's been a wave that will tip a number of the other races as well. i want to return to this question of iowa. the problem that democrats have had traditionally in mid term elections not just this one, is voter dropout. democrats tend to vote in presidential elections, not in mid term elections. if democrats in any of these states and iowa is one of them, can replicate the kind of proportionality that they get in a presidential race, they have a much better chance to win. >> how do they do that? >> they do it by very precisely organizing and that's what they're trying to do in iowa. it's really, really -- this early mail ballot thing is very important because a lot of the people who are asking for applications are people who don't generally participate in these elections, and they tend to be democrats, not republicans. so these kinds of things can even up the race. but look, there's no doubt the republicans start with an advantage in the race, and it's not just because of the president, and it's not just because it's the sixth year. but so many of the september races fall in red states, this year, seven of them. so they start with an uneven playing field in their favor. the chairman of the party said on television the other day, it would be a big, big defeat for the republicans if they didn't take the senate this year. >> two important things, can you only organize if there's excitement that goes with that organization. you can't just also motivate. once they're excited, you can get them there. if there's not the excitement, you can't. the second reason new hampshire is so important, dollars have been sent there, dollars that can't be spent other places. the fact that that race has become challenging for the democrats, it's helping republicans everywhere else. >> any republicans positive about anything -- >> anything positive? >> what do the republicans want? >> one is more freedom, two is less regulations, three is less taxes, pick your own doctor. there's a lot of things. i think there's a fear among republicans that there isn't real leadership in what is probably in some ways world war iii right now that we are fighting. >> you're not overstating it, are you? >> it's a different type of war. >> world war iii was us kids hiding under a school test because we were going to have a nuclear war. that's world war iii. >> we're in a different type of war because of how it's fought. >> i don't agree. >> i don't think people feel as safe as before -- >> we can spend hours and never discuss isis. >> i see polling data every day and it's moving up in all the polls and senate races. david axelrod, thank you for joining us. good luck with the university of chicago effort of yours. >> i appreciate it. >> it's a great cause, to teach. always to teach. david and john, thank you. on monday, don't miss my interview with senator kay hagan. we're go to north carolina to see her this weekend. i think she's going to win against tom tillis because she's got his problems as speaker of the house. he's playing defense too. we'll be there to talk to her and take a report on what's going on. bring it all to you on monday. up next, the best campaign ads of the season. this is the fun part of the show. this is "hardball," our special tonight, four weeks before the mid term elections. the equipment tracking system will get you to the loading dock. ♪ there should be a truck leaving now. i got it. now jump off the bridge. what? 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what are the midterm elections really about? are they rebuke tob!;e presiden obama? what's the mood of the country right now? we have some geniuses with us right now. let's bring in the round table. ken vogel, reporter with politico which steals reporters from "the washington post." and steve mcmahon is a democratic strategist, a real one. let me go to this. what's the one word to define the mood of the country going into this election? >> i would go with sour. 76% of the country think we're on the wrong track. pretty similar to when we saw republicans take back the house. >> sour? >> i think anxious and frustrated. frustrated that things aren't moving forward. frustrated they're not hearing a lot of plans for where to go. and maybe -- >> neither party is saying what thir going to do. >> i think the summer was a tough one for obama. we're in syria. ruffled feathers and people are nervous. >> disgusted. they're disgusted with their leaders in washington. if they could vote them all ought, thout, they would. >> that never happens, though. it's always in one direction. >> when you look at the numbers this year, it's as bad as it's ever been. >> not before you were born. right now the mood of the country doesn't look swell for democrats. 2/3 say the country is on the wrong track. less than a quarter say we're on the right track. both of those are worst than 2010. also republicans are winning the intensity battle, which is everything in a midterm. look at this. if you ask registered voters which party should control the congress, they say democrats. 46-42. not bad. but if you ask high intensity voters, the ones who are gung ho to vote, you get the opposite. they want a republican-controlled congress, 51-48. that's a serious matter there for the democrats. and finally, the base, 38% of democrats say they're voting this november in support of the president. down from 45% in 2010 in line with the support george w. bush, and he didn't get in support from 2006 from his republican parties when they lost the houses. you're a democratic consultant. you were on their side. i'm often otd side of democrats, i admit. but here's the question, how are they going to win the voters and get people to get roused up. capehart gave a rousing speech a few minutes ago, but that's the first i've heard. mrs. obama is out there. but how do you -- >> i think when the economy improves and it is improving, but everybody's not feeling it. when it does improve, who is the american economy going to work for? the wealthy and the special interests and that's still an area that democrats win overwhelmingly. >> why don't they brag about the economy getting better? >> because a lot of people don't feel it's getting better. >> why don't they brag about the people that are feeling better? the unemployment is under 6%. a quarter million new jobs in one month, ten million new jobs since the crash. don't you sell your strengths? politics? >> you do. those are the strengths, and everybody nods their heads and saying, why am i not feeling? >> the money in their pockets and paychecks hasn't gone up, so they're not feeling it. >> republicans would be bragging right now. so how is this different? >> i think you've heard some of the bragging from obama, but i think he's got to temper it with how people are actually feeling. >> he has to figure it out. we lived through the 1930s, it was hoshl for a decade. and roosevelt kept saying, we're getting somewhere. i watched those guys spiking the ball last night. democrats don't know how to spike the ball. that's their problem. they put the ball down and walk over to the sidelines. no, throw that thing, do something! >> the difference between this and 2010, both sides to an extent did have a unifying message. the republicans were running against obamacare. democrats were talking about things were turning around. now it's fractured. -- >> what do you make of these guys like leon panetta, not just him, but begich and hagan, they're walking away from him. >> every man for himself. >> if we don't all hang together, we'll hang separately. that's a line from the revolution. now they're hanging separately. >> if you're mary landrieu in louisiana, you want to hang separately from this president. >> how do you get the black vote if you run away from the president? >> african americans will show up. michelle obama is out there talking specifically to them. >> president obama has gone under cover in the mid terms, but he resurfaced last thursday. here's the president making his best case. >> don't buy this notion that somehow this is an anti-business agenda. this is a qvatpro-business agen. this is a pro-economic growth agenda. i'm not on the ballot this fall. michelle's pretty happy about that. [ laughter ] but make no mistake, these policies are on the ballot. every single one of them. >> republicans were quick to jump on that pro-business remark, prompting some democrats to run damage control. here's axelrod on "meet the press" this sunday. >> if you read the speech, the context of the line was, the things he's pushing forward, minimum wage, pay equity, infrastructure, he said these are on the ballot. but the way -- it was obvious when you saw the speech that that was not the way -- >> you're an ad man -- >> wait. it was a mistake. >> what was the mistake there? >> what was the mistake? >> yeah. >> i think giving republicans a cliff to hang on democrats' necks. mark warner is sitting in virginia and republicans are saying he voted with obama 97% of the time. and now there's a clip that puts them together. >> i'm not sure that changes anyone's mind. it's essentially saying -- [ all speak at once ] >> they're already pretty enthusiast enthusiastic. it's not going to change a democrat's mind. >> let's talk turkey, let's get rough. panetta is trashing the president on the decisions he'd made. shouldn't there be a period of loyalty? >> you won't write a back and you won't become a lobbyist for two years after you leave. >> how about while the guy is still in office? >> well, yeah. it's unfortunate for democrats because for the first time, foreign policy is something voters care about. >> why is she doing this? >> partly because he's not going to work in politics anymore. he wants to sell books. >> the kennedy administration didn't write books. >> loyalty is still a good thing. you only get appointed by one president to one job. anyway -- >> there's a suggestion he's running interference for hillary clinton. >> how's that? >> legacy. he's out there singing -- >> i think that's too cute. 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>> functionally, the same. mcconnell will have some symbolic votes. >> obama says there will be a different debate, at least. >> there will. the house will pass things and then the republican senate will pass things. he'll negotiate over a signature. he might have some antibiotic to move some things. >> that's one of the theories, you know, if the republicans control both houses, maybe they'll be able tote good many some stuff done. >> i want to have some fun with you. which senator who lives -- of the democrats, will the president miss socially? miss hanging around with? miss spending time with, playing cards with. you know what point i'm making, don't you? he doesn't hang out with any of them. who is he going to miss socially? >> i don't know. i take your point. but i do think republicans do have to be careful in going too aggressively if they take the senate after obama using subpoena power. >> you can predict. you can predict. can you predict? >> probably not. >> i thi think it's right on th right now. i think if they had to vote right now, they'd get it with one vote. i do think the democrats, the good ones, the smart campaigners are going to earn their seats in the next four weeks. >> that's true of all of these people. in these tough states, these are democrats who have run there and won there before. they have the ability to do it. i think the republicans have been really set back by pat roberts who is in kansas. >> you've got to win seven now. >> yes, and that's a lot harder than six. >> and by the way, this guy in kansas, i don't know who i'm going to join with, that's a little flaky. thank you both. we'll be right back after this. n. are all the green lights you? 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"hardball" starts right now. think ebola. let's play "hardball." good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. the nurse's name is nina fong. she took care of america's first ebola case. and now she's the second. and the man-made virus called voter suppression. this weekend in north carolina i asked kay hagan whether republicans are out to cut the democratic vote or simply screw the black vote. here's her answer. >> so is this based on racial -- racism or partisanship? why are they trying to screw the black voters, because they don't like blacks, or because they don't like democrats? >> i think they are trying to suppress democrat voting. >> the african americans think they're being targeted because they're african americans. >> i tend to agree with them. >> so it's both. the ebola scare is front-page news. "the washington post," dallas nurse tests positive for ebola. "the new york times," dallas nurse contracts ebola virus, elevating response and anxiety. and "usa today," texas nurse contracts ebola. tonight, we'll give you the latest, including the 911 call that alerted the dallas hospital as to what was coming. >> hello? >> yeah, is this fire department? >> i'm calling for ambulance, please. i say my daddy is throwing up -- [ indiscernible ] >> what's the address? >> all right, and you're hurting all over? >> huh? >> no, i said my daddy is throwing up -- [ indiscernible ] >> the director of infectious diseasas the national institute of health and the judge in texas. tell us about the protocols that failed to be used, people were failed to be trained. how do you explain this to an average white person right now, what went wrong? how does this person contract ebola? >> well, there was a breach in the protocol, but we don't know the precise breach. we continue to investigate by interviewing every health care worker who had anything to do with the care of eric duncan. and we brought in two infectious disease specialists from the cdc and a host more epidemiologist to try to get to where that breach was. we have improved over the last 24 hours some of the infection control protocols there. but there was a breach, we don't know whether it was isolated, or whether it was something that affected more people. that's what our focus is on now. >> thank you, judge. less than a month ago, president obama said it was unlikely ebola would reach our shores, but it has. when the first case landed in dallas two weeks ago, center for disease control director thomas frieden announced they were stopping it in its tracks. today the tone of the conversation is different. we have the first ebola infection in the united states and the cdc assumes more cases are on the way. >> we're concerned and would not be surprised if we did see additional cases in the health care workers who also provided care to the index patient. we're concerned there could be other infections in the coming days. >> would not be surprised if there are more cases, especially of those who cared for the first victim here. cdc director frieden called for an elevated level of readiness at hospitals around the country. here's more of what he said today. >> we'll work with hospitals throughout the country to think ebola, in someone with a fever or other symptoms who has had travel to any of the three affected countries in the previous 21 days. >> so, anthony, thank you very much. you're very used to this, but most people are not, infectious diseases. >> right. >> what do you think we know and what we don't know? what's the known unknown here about whether it could be -- this person apparently did follow the rules, they thought. >> right. >> -- nina fong, and caught it. >> first of all, when we say breach, we better be careful that we don't give the impression that it's her fault or she did something wrong. breach is a public health terminology. it could possibly be that she may not have been actually trained or practiced in what she was doing. so she tried her best, and then you have to look at more proactive training, making sure there's good supervision there. so a breach can be a lot of things. it's that catch word for "something went wrong." i think the important thing you just mentioned, there are things that did go right, despite the tragic event. one, this person was being monitored because she was self-monitoring. soon as she got a fever on friday night, she reported it the next morning, went into isolation, and that's what tom frieden was talking about, when he said, there won't be an outbreak, because when you do contact tracing and do the isolation, you're not going to have an outbreak. so americans should not be concerned about an outbreak, but that's different than a significant serious situation, about making sure you protect our health care workers. we've got to make sure they get the best of equipment and the best of training so that we don't have an unfortunate incident. >> but dr. frieden also said he would not be surprised if there were more cases coming out of people who were in contact with the first victim? >> right. health care workers, because if in fact what was going on in that intensive care setting allowed a single health care worker to get infected, none of us would be surprised, we hope it doesn't happen, but we wouldn't be surprised if we saw another one or more health care workers, that's why they're being monitored extremely closely. >> what's the atmosphere like in texas? are people concerned he's wouldn't be surprised if there were more cases of ebola? >> the vast majority of our people are calmly concerned for these health care workers and are praying and thinking about nina and her family. and let me say this, i consider her to be a hero. she is a person who knew when she went into this field that there's always a risk of getting the very disease you're treating. it's happened to her. and she's dealing with that, with grace, and with dignity. and she has a brave and heroic family, and they're giving her great support. and i'm pleased -- >> but the president said it was unlikely that there would be cases in this country. and now the implications seem to be in the first couple days here, that we would be unlikely to see any more cases develop because of contact with this first patient, mr. duncan. and then here we are, is there any way to spread the news that it's possible, it's unlikely, but it's possible and throw in that word possible so people retain their authority to speak on the matter? judge? >> well, yes. here's the situation. if you didn't come into contact with the bodily fluids of eric duncan, you don't have ebola and you're not going to get ebola. but in this situation, we have a new area of concern for health care workers who we believed were following protocols sufficient to keep them safe while caring for mr. duncan. there was a breach, which is a term of art, but there was a breach that allowed her to get sick. it means that we are focused on those other health care workers. of the 48 people outside of those health care workers that are contacts, they're asymptom attic and have no fever and we're now well past the most likely time for them to get sick. they'll be fully in the clear on october 20th. but now we have a new concern, and that's the protocols and the health care workers. >> the united states has been without a surgeon general now for more than a year. in july of last year, surgeon general regina benjamin resigned. in november, president obama nominated a replacement, dr. vivek murthy. then democrats passed a measure to make it easier to confirm. only a simple majority is needed. but then they moved to bock the nomination. including comments where murthy said guns are a health care issue themselves. th the confirmation vote was called off that same month. what do you think of this? i'm looking at a pack of cigarettes right now. i don't smoke, haven't in 25 years. but for an authority figure, we look at this, surgeon general warning, smoking by pregnant women may result in fetal injury, premature birth and low birth rate. it talks about cancer. so the surgeon general is the big daddy of the country who tells us what we should be afraid of. we don't have one. we have you, dr. frieden. do we need a surgeon general to come on television to do psas and say, here's what you shouldn't be worried about. this is what you should do? >> well, it would be nice to have a surgeon general, but the problem right now, chris, is not not having a surgeon general. >> i think it's a problem with the american government. i'm in a different field. politically, we can't even do the basics, like approve a surgeon general. >> that's a different story. i think there's a bit of a non-sec witter. we're not in the situation we are now because we don't have a surgeon general. that would be making some majestic leaps. >> but we need somebody to talk to the american people. >> sure. health officials and i have been on the air almost continuously, as has tom frieden and secretary bur wel. there's a lot to be done. we're in an epidemic of fear, and we need to break that -- >> so we don't need a tsar? >> i don't think so. we have good coordination from the white house, from the national security council. we have the division in labor, in country, it's usa i.d. here it's health and human services. the military are doing a great job helping with logistics. it's working smoothly. we need to get more resources. right now, the thing that people forget when they see the headlines that you just showed about a single case, which is tragic, that should not have happened. but the way we can stop this from ever happening is to get rid of the epidemic in west africa. if we do that, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. >> we'll send 3,000 guys over there. the question is, will they get it? >> we must stop it in west africa. >> the lack of a clear-cut personage, for the president to say, this person is in charge. when he was asked who was in charge of the rollout for health care, he said it's the coo are the -- someone he never met. but that's a problem. but he knows you. thank you judge clay jenkins. coming up, my interview with senator kay hagan. she's holding strong in north carolina, where republicans have tried to take away the vote of minorities and young people. guess what? 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(all) awesome! i love logistics. just three weeks from now, in fact, tomorrow, a handful of crucial states will determine whether democrats keep a majority in the united states senate, or whether republicans get control. among the battleground states, north carolina, where the race to finish line is intensifying even as we speak. we were there this weekend and here's what we found. >> with control of the u.s. senate in the balance, "hardball" took to the road this weekend to check out the race in north carolina. it's where democrat kay hagan is in a tough fight with thom tillis, her testy republican opponent. >> usually races that are this close bounce back and forth, but she's maintained a two to five-point lead non-stop for the last six weeks or so. >> the latest polling has hagan up two points 47-45. >> i think voter turn-out is the key. it's certainly the key in my election, in an off-presidential election year. we know voter turn-out goes down. and i have put together one of the biggest voter turn-out operations we've ever seen in north carolina. >> but new voting restrictions passed by the conservative north carolina legislature, might affect turn-out on election day. >> the intent was to suppress democratic turn-out. it's wrong. people have fought and died for the constitutional right to vote. they took away a number of early voting days, they took away same-day registration. we allowed in civics classes as a senior in high school, that students could register to vote. you want to ask yourself, why? >> hagan's republican opponent is the speaker of the house in the north carolina legislature. he pushed for the new voting restrictions which he must have known would weigh heaviest on his democratic rival. >> did he do this to suppress the vote? >> yes. when you look at these barriers to the ballot box. there are two states in the nation that he brought suit in, north carolina and texas, because of the egregious violation of the constitutional right to vote. it's 2014. why are there barriers to the ballot box? that's what they've done. >> the restrictions are going to hurt the african americans the most. the naacp has been leading the fight to inform voters? >> what do you think voter suppression is about? partisan or racist? >> i think it's both. the people who are going to be affected, it's african americans. >> there are people who don't want to see progress. but these folks here do want to see it, and they're leading the nation. this is where the action is. this is where the leadership is right here. >> among those leaders, a civil rights advocate in the tar heels state. >> when you talk to republicans and i think you do, about why they push for the new voter laws, do they admit it's suppression? >> thom tillis admitted on msnbc, where he said it wasn't about fraud. he admitted that. >> why is this a legislative priority? >> we call this restoring confidence in elections. there is some voter fraud, but that's not the primary reason for doing this. there's a lot of people who are just concerned with the potential risk of fraud. in our state, it could be significant. >> reverend barber gained wide recognition for leading moral mondays in north carolina, a weekly protest movement with civil rights and voting fairness at the top of its agenda. >> we talk about what's constitutionally inconsistent. we've had republicans and democrats stand on the stage and say, some politicians that will get elected and then use their power to keep from voting, is wrong. >> senator hagan has for her part made voting rights a key component of her re-election fight. >> we need to have a huge turn-out on november 4th. with your help and support, we are going to get out the voters. we are going to inform them, tell them what the rules of the road are. this election is that critical. >> so is this based on racial -- racism or partisanship? why are they trying to screw the black voter to put it bluntly? >> i think they are trying to suppress democratic turn-out. >> so it's partisan? >> sundays to the polls, done away. the whole early voting concept, people have busy lives. they want to go and vote early. and to think you took another week of that away, that's wrong. that is really wrong. >> the african americans think they're being targeted because they're african americans not because they're democrats. >> well, you know, i tend to agree with them. >> some say tillis might trigger a voter backlash trying to en80 these voter restrictions. it could cause african americans to show up in greater numbers at a protest. >> from what i can tell, the state's voter i.d. laws are motivating the base like nothing i've ever seen. i think the republican party overreached to such an extent that they'll have a hard time for the next couple of cycles. they're going to have to own what they've done. >> the consequences of these new laws are far reaching and could determine which party wins control of the u.s. senate. every vote in a battleground state like north carolina counts. every vote that gets suppressed does too. joining me now is political analyst gene robinson of "the washington post." you grew up with this stuff and they're back at it. >> well, yeah. i thought we had established the right to vote back in 1964 and '65. >> i thought this was interesting. i brought back a little bit of advice for voters. this is a placard i got from the naacp, a non-partisan placard. a lot of people are spreading the word you need an i.d. card, even though these pushed off for two years. so that intimidation factor worked in pennsylvania for the presidential election. people say, don't bother, because you don't have an i.d. what do you think of this, that groups like the naacp, they may be democrats, but it's a non-partisan issue. >> and it's a group that doesn't get involved in politics in a partisan way. and i think that's highly significant. i think what we heard about motivating the democratic base, frankly, in north carolina, could well be true. >> the counterattack, the backlash? >> yeah, there are some indications that in 2012, in some states, you know, attempts to suppress the african american vote resulted in a higher than normal african american vote, especially in ohio. >> let me ask you a question, i don't think there's an answer, but i'm going to throw it at you. i asked kay hagan the question, african americans down here think it's at them. not just democrats, it's at them as a group? >> well, how could you not feel that way, if you see something that clearly has a disproportionate impact on african american voters. that in particular, that is something they went way out of their way to get rid of, and that's something -- >> they targeted the black vote. >> if african americans were loyal republican voters, would the republican party be doing this? i'm not sure they would. >> it's like nixon, was it anti-semitic or jewish or democrats. anyway, a new poll on the senate race in iowa. 47 for republican joanie arn eft, the hog castrator, and 46, one point behind her, bruce braley, who isn't the greatest campaigner, but he's holding his fight there. that's a five-point move. plenty of heat when they debated last night. let's watch. >> senator ernst is fond of saying things that sound good, but when you look at what they mean to iowans, they don't make iowans better off. >> i think it's important to have farmers in the united states senate. when you talk about your word behind closed doors at a fund-raiser in texas. you poked fun at senator grassley for being just a farmer without a law degree. >> there's been a direct attack, there's been applause, i think i should have an opportunity to respond. senator ernst, you know that i apologized to senator grassley right away. no. it's called grid iq. the 4:51 is leaving at 4:51. ♪ they cut the power. it'll fix itself. power's back on. quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids make the world predictable. thrillingly predictable. can i get my experian credit report...eport card" thing. like, the one the bank sees. sheesh, i feel like i'm being interrogated over here. she's onto us. dump her. 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>> you know, this election isn't about the president. it's about making sure we put kentuckians back to work. >> did you vote for him? >> i was in 2008, a delegate for hillary clinton. i think that kentuckians know i'm a clinton democrat through and through. i respect the sanctity of the ballot box and i know that the members of this editorial board do as well. >> so you're not going to answer? >> again, i don't think the president is on the ballot. as much as mitch mcconnell might want him to be, it's my name, and it's going to be made holding him accountable for the votes he's made against the people of kentucky. >> during my visit to north carolina, i asked senator hagan the same question. admittedly, she was probably prepared for it. >> who did you vote for for president in 2008 and 2012? >> president barack obama. >> that's not a hard question? >> that's not a hard question. >> i have a number of theories about it. alison lundergan grimes didn't want to answer that question. what's your theory? >> i don't have a theory. it looked like that was kind of prepared. and if that was prepared, it was really weird. answer the question. >> do you think she voted for president obama? >> you think she didn't? >> i'm beginning to be suspicious that she wanted to be honest and she had an answer she wanted to provide, but how can it be bad to say you voted for the guy that you obviously voted for? i think she's a regular democrat. >> no, no, regular democrats voted for barack obama obviously because he won twice. so they did. to not say that, it seems like you're going way out of your way to try to not offend kentuckians who don't like the president, yada yada yada. answer the question. >> mitch mcconnell, the old pro, is going to nail her on this and force her to answer it and say, it took you x many days to answer the question. even if she does answer it tonight, he'll say, how long did that take you to do it? he can be a nasty sort of character to say the least. and he'll use this. anyway, eugene, thanks for having fun here. and i think kay hagan looks like a winner. she's running a campaign against a guy who isn't that likeable and she's focused on north carolina issues effectively. that's what we saw down there. up next, the round table and who's in charge of stopping ebola here in the united states? 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even though it's in small numbers, it's against the promise we were given in the beginning, that it would be unlikely for it to get here. >> what's frighten, we can't point to one person who is in charge. and now there's a breach in protocol in the hospital in texas where a nurse now has ebola. what if the protocol is just wrong? i have a friend who is a physician in new york, here hospital treats a lot of african patients. she was sharing with me some details. and it's frightening. the protocol begins with put up a map of africa in your emergency room. train your staff on the names of the countries in africa and train your staff on the names of the cities in the countries where you find the ebola virus. >> or the donald trump protocol, no more airline traffic from that part of the world. >> it's ironic, we spend a lot of times hearing from conservatives about the need for less centralized government, the more local the better. in this case, the exact opposite is true. we need the best, global, national information, carefully administered and supervised by a central figure. for political purposes and maybe administrative ones as well. i don't know that dr. frieden at the cdc, as competent as he is, is a big enough figure to match what's going on in the public sphere today. and after all, every infectious disease is also a matter of publicity and public affairs. so you need that strong person. if president obama doesn't have the time to do it, and he's busy with things like isis and so forth -- they need somebody of unimpeachable global stature to reassure the american people and every hospital in the united states. >> a chain of command, like eisenhower had. right down the line, like general of the army. or else people will be confused. >> the problem now is, no one is in control. the message now, the world is in chaos, no one is in charge, there's disorder out there. the problem for the administration, if this election gets framed around the themes of chaos and disorder, that will be damaging. >> the president has a policy. when he was asked about the rollout of obamacare, it was, who is really in charge? well, it's the chief operating officer of the medicare, medicaid group in hhs. that's part of hhs. you say, who are you talking to? it was the president didn't seem to be talking to anybody. there was no chain of command. >> on certain issues, he is brilliant in his measured responses. this is not one of those areas. we don't want to cause or create large amounts of panic, but somebody needs to be in charge and admit to the american public that we don't have all the answers, and that we need to be stealth on this. why are we not looking at this the same way we would look at an act of bioterrorism? we need to be very serious about this. >> president obama's leadership style has always been one of, let's be calm now, let's be cool. and i think that's a very useful and a very effective leadership style for him in many ways. in this case, you still need some -- you need calm, but you need the calm of utter scientific and administrative authority, which is not him. he's president of the united states. who is that person? does dr. frieden? until a week ago, nobody knew who that guy was. >> and we don't have a surgeon general. >> and he's not fully in charge. >> right now, we have panic with two cases in the united states, what happens when we get up to ten? >> the surgeon general plays a critical role when it comes to public health scares. the most famous was coop taking on the tobacco industry in the 1980s. this was him testifying about the dangers of tobacco. >> -- maintains and encourages the social acceptability of tobacco use. it just doesn't make sense to me to have unbridled advertising and promotion in view of the overwhelming scientific evidence that we have of disease and those 350,000 deaths a year. >> authority is an interesting thing. it's not power. it's true authority based upon election or expertise. >> yes. >> he came off with that. he was appointed by the president, and he's the guy you check with about cigarettes. you may want to risk cancer if you want to, but it's there. >> and there's something about his leadership style at that point in time that instilled confidence. we need that, whether the person in charge is a man or a woman, we deeply need that right now. we don't have all the answers. >> either the world health organization or the united nations or both, just said within the last few hours, that ebola is going to be the biggest health threat to human beings in history. they made that statement just a few hours ago. >> talking about the deployment of u.s. troops being a mistake occasionally and sometimes they're necessary. 3,000 american gis, guys going over there, are they going to be trained in what not to touch, what not to be near? >> there's the question of the extent to which they have been properly trained. i think they've been trained to the limits of both what the army and the government knows. but again, as darryl said, one gets the sense that the cdc is here, the nih is here, the surgeon general doesn't even have a surgeon general now permanently because the republicans blocked that person. and while the president and there's hhs. the president has called people in for photo ops on sunday and monday, saying i'm on top of the situation, but who is really running it? >> this is a great question. there's no clear chain of command, no tsar, so is it he like a president like kennedy in the missile crisis and get into the bowels of the government? is he that kind of president? i don't think so. >> he's not. in this political era, no one trusts authorities. we already have a situation where the hospital said one thing and it was wrong. we had obama say it's not going to be a problem and we already have cases. it's not like this is the only crisis. we're facing challenges on the foreign policy front, on domestic policy issues, when you add ebola on top of the other things, that has the potential -- [ all speak at once ] >> the fact is -- >> exactly. >> at this point he needs two situation rooms. he needs a situation room for the middle east and the terrorism issue and he needs a situation room for this. >> and the question of the fat cats, the pigs from the '60s are going to spend millions of dollars to weed out liberals they don't like. anyway, round table is coming up. this is "hardball." dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future.you. thank you for being my hero and my dad. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance could be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. ♪ who's going to do it? 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>> ultimately, i believe it's going to have to be the united states. i love that people have to say this is the iraqis war, maybe iran. >> who's going to do it? do you think obama is going to put troops in. >> president obama is not going to have any choice but to put troops in. this whole philosophy of degrading isis isn't going to work. isis has to be taken out. >> i don't think so. >> and he was wrong. he was wrong to take troops out of iraq. >> in this case, he was right. in the beginning, or a month or so ago, he said that countries have to do this. he wasn't acting that way a couple years ago when carefully nurturing and helping to build those kind of alliances and military capableties of the people on the ground would have been helpful. but to say that now -- >> i don't think in hillary clinton's way back machine. >> how do you get the turks? >> the turks, the iranians and the asad. >> our nato allies are the turks. where are they? >> and the bottom line, it's in our national security interest not to sit around and have other people take care of this. >> let's talk about your book and the billionaires. talk about the role that you're seeing in the reporting today. that they're waiting until the last couple of weeks, these right wing, wealthy billionaires -- that's redundant -- are going to drop a ton of money. >> 2014 is going to become the battle of the billionaires. these are smart business guys. they're going to look at, you know, seven or eight key senate races that ultimately are going to decide -- control the senate. they're going to focus on the three or four where putting a million in, five million or even ten million is going to move the needle one or two percentage points. >> you shouunder the law, is th limit? >> there's no limit what they can spend, if they're working through non-profit organizations. they don't even have to rorpt the expenditure. so from the voter standpoint, it's probablymatic. the messenger is as important as the message. >> most of the tv time in most of these states that's allotted to political advertising has already been taken. so more and more of it is going to go on to the internet. >> so what do you do if you you will hayou have a lot of money d you can't spend it? >> aside from walking around, i don't know. you have to put it into the ground game, which the democrats have already been doing. give credit to harry reid here. he focused on the ground game and not advertising a long time ago. >> the amusing thing is that millionaires are going to have to pay a premium for last-minute purchases, but they can afford it. >> this is the place -- >> what an irony. >> this is the place to decide the golden election. >> if they're spending another 10 or 20 million, they're finding out how to capitalize. >> even with all the advertising dollars for people who live in under-served communities, if you can't vote, it doesn't matter. the advertising or not, they are so successful in all of these states. >> okay. which is it? >> it's both. >> okay, thank you. that's what i think, anyway. michelle, bernard, thank you, dear. and thank you, dear. i had a couple myself. we'll be right back after this. one must project success. that's why we use fedex one rate®. >>their flat rate shipping. exactly. it makes us look top-notch but we know it's affordable. 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"hardball" starts right now. fear factor. let's play "hardball." ♪ ♪ >> good evening, i'm chris matthews up in new york. people only truly believe what they discover for themselves. they believe what they see, what becomes obvious to them. right now, it's obvious that ebola is not being kept from this country. it's here despite the promises we keep getting. how did that man get onto the plane? and why was he sent away from the hospital in dallas when he said he was here from west africa, where wree know there's an emdemmic of ebola. he walked in carrying some of the symptoms. who and what are we to believe right now? the claim that there was a solid screening system in place at the airport in monrovia. that statement by president obama. airport officials now say that the texas ebola patient lied about his exposure, so he could get into the u.s. what good is a screening system, if it's so easily evaded? health officials are trying to find up to 100 people who may have been exposed to the virus while he was contagious. the cdc and texas health department are mobilizing war rooms in the dallas area. he walked into a dallas hospital with symptoms a week ago and was sent home. even after he told them he'd come from the ebola hot zone in west africa. for three days he roamed free in the dallas area. his nephew called the cdc himself as duncan got worse. what assurances do we have that others won't get in and that the right things will be done when they do? people don't like hearing these questions. i promise you, there will be a lot more if the assurances we keep getting don't match the realities we're facing. we're joined now on the phone from monrovia, dr. nancy snyderman, thank you for joining us. how did this guy get here when we were told by our president it would be unlikely that anybody would come here from the ebola area in west africa? >> i think doctors have been saying for quite some time that they expected a case of ebola to pop up in the united states. and that's because our world is smaller than ever. you can get anywhere within 12 hours on a plane. interestingly, we know how this man was exposed. we tracked his path today in monrovia. he was exposed to the virus about four days before he left the country. unfortunately, it can take eight to ten days for symptoms to show. temperature, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. so when he left monrovia, liberia, his temperature was taken by the authorities, and it was normal, or he would not have been allowed to leave the country. so when he arrived in the united states, he probably still didn't have a fever. the real error was made when he first went to the texas emergency room with symptoms, high fever, and a history of coming from west africa, and he was inappropriately given antibiotics and sent home. a travel history is as important as any other part of the history in a physical today. and anyone coming through or from west africa, has to be asked the question, how do you feel? >> did he get a questionnaire in the liberian airport, was he asked whether he had been in an area where he could have been exposed to ebola? sources there say he lied and said he wasn't anywhere near a victim he could have picked it up from. >> well, this is a real loophole that we've been trying to track all day. we know that he was in contact with a pregnant woman who died of ebola before his departure. i can tell you that all over monrovia, there are bill boards, messages blasting from television and radio, everyone here is hyperalert and hyperaware about ebola. so, i don't know what this man knew. we do know that he came in contact with a young woman who died before his departure from this country. and it's hard to imagine that he didn't know that he was in proximity with someone that was ill. because we tracked the taxi he was in, the exposure that he was exposed to, and several of the people he was exposed to have now died. >> do we know that he came here to get treatment, that he knew he was exposed? we've heard stories of family members raising money for him to get here. >> i honestly don't have a clue, chris. we do know he applied for a visa on september 2nd, and quit his job and saved up money -- >> i see, so he had planned to come here. that answers the question. he planned to come here before he was exposed. so that wasn't his motive, necessarily. thank you, dr. nancy snyderman. >> any time, chris. this opens up a problem with trust and authority in this country. right now it's getting dicey. a democrat from california and nurse practitioner herself. and the lieutenant governor of maryland. congresswoman, let me ask you about this thing here. the president, i don't know why he said it, that it was unlikely, two weeks ago that we'd had an aids person -- an ebola person coming here from west africa. who told him it was safe to say unlikely? it's not great to be knocked down in your claims by reality. it's not a good thing. >> i certainly don't know who told him. but what i do think he might have been trying to do was to just reassure the u.s. population that we don't have to worry about a massive outbreak. looking back at it, maybe he shouldn't have said that, but i do think that was probably the motivation. because there's so much information that the u.s. public needs to know and understand about this disease. >> why would he warn us about something, though? tell me the obvious. i don't know what it is. why would we be afraid of people being afraid of ebola? isn't that a smart thing, to be afraid of ebola, the way it's handled through the airport and our transportation system? >> i think part of that is correct. but if i remember correctly, he responded that way after the two doctors came to the united states, the ones that were infected and we brought back here, and he was assuring people. but i do think that it's important that people be aware. i also think it's really important that people not be so paranoid to the point where, you know, people really don't understand what's going on. you know, we are dealing with our own epidemic here, the enterovirus, over 500 cases in 42 states. so we have additional concerns we need to be worried about. also four deaths from that virus in young children. >> i'm a huge opponent of rolling disclosure. i think it's vital that politicians be the first, like in the "godfather." my lawyer always insists on getting bad news fast. >> that's right. >> he wants the bad news and i'm sure the congresswoman agrees. you want the staffer to race into the office and not sit on it for three days. here we have a couple of situations. the jv team in iraq and syria that's becoming a global threat supposedly. so is isis a jv team, what is it? i'm just wondering about this effort to try to down play concerns at the expense of being a truth-teller. it is a problem. >> i would agree with that. it is a problem to the extent that the administration, particularly the president is getting advice from individuals who aren't telling him the whole story, or laying out some of the ramifications. and all you have to do is look at the most recent episode with the secret service. you know, you have the director briefing the president, but fails to tell him, oh, by the way, you were in an elevator with someone who had a gun. >> that's a relevant fact, i think. >> it's a relevant fact. and i think the congressman would really appreciate, please, give us the relevant facts so that we, in turn, in answering calls from our constituents, what the relevant facts are. >> here's an example of a guy. president obama is pushing the economy today, gave a mention to ebola in the context of american leadership. let's take a listen. >> when alarms go off somewhere in the world, whether it's a disaster that is natural or man-made, when there's an idea or invention that can make a difference, this is where things start. this who the world calls -- america. they don't call moscow, they don't call beijing. they call us. and we welcome that responsibility of leadership, because that's who we are. that's what we expect of ourselves. >> and with that responsibility comes responsibility. here i want to show you how you do share information. right after 9/11, there was an anthrax scare in new york. and giuliani shared information as he got it. this is just a short clip from one of his press conferences. >> there was a skin test, a biopsy that was done. that came back positive early this morning. cdc notified us early this morning. so the test of the powder was negative to anthrax. the skin test was positive to anthrax. but since, if it is the powder, it goes back to september 25, and you don't have any additional numbers of people reporting symptoms. the chances that this is contained, according to the cdc and we just finished a long conference call with them, the chance this is contained are very good. >> that's what i like, a very calm disposition of how things stand and how you know it. and telling the public everything you know as you know it. that's better than saying be calm, and don't worry, and it's unlikely. that doesn't work. people are smart, watching the tv, going online. what did he say exactly? okay, now i can work with that. i can't do something with general advice to be calm. but i can be calm when i see the mayor of my city going through the information as he gets it. >> absolutely. i agree with both of you. i want to hear the bad news first too. cut to the chase, let me know what's going on. but in addition to that, giving education, so, providing education to people about what this disease is, what the symptoms are, what you should look for, i think is very important as well. michael, do you have any assurance we won't get a couple more guys jumping on the plane in monrovia? in two to 21 days incubation period. if the person is not sweating like mad or convulsing, they say he's clean. but it takes 21 days to show the symptoms. it's not working. >> i agree with that. i think it's something that everybody should be concerned about, who are at those entry points and make sure there are the appropriate checks put in place. the other thing i think is important and the congresswoman touched on something that is important, the education. there are two parts to that. the first is that we the people are informed as to what this disease it, what the symptoms are, and we know how to deal with it. more importantly, as we saw with the hospital, that the information from cdc trickles down, so that in that emergency room, even if you have one of the list of symptoms, there's a sense of, we need to check this. but then when you're told, i just came from liberia or sierra leone, that raises it even further. so the education is important. >> congresswoman, i just want to say thank you. i love the fact that you're a nurse practitioner. that means in addition to your legislative success, you have executive ability, which is a great thing. i look so much up to nurses, especially nurse practitioners, who do the doctor work. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and my friend michael steele. coming up, the embarrassments get even worse for nfl commissioner roger goodell. it's not just ray rice. documents today, 50 cases of domestic violence under goodell and found that players received lenient discipline in nearly all the situations. >> plus, darryl hannah will join us, the master of political impressions. he's making his return to "saturday night live" this season as its new announcer after the death of the great don pardo. and tonight's round table, we'll talk about the fear of ebola, hillary 2015 versus bill 1991. and a new report that the secret service leaked president obama's schedule to the mitt romney crowd. and let me finish tonight with the man who turned 90, former president jimmy carter. this is "hardball," a place for politics. transit fares! as in the 37 billion transit fares we help collect each year. no? 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"usa today" reported the past eight years, there have been 50 cases against nfl players. 50. most of those players received little or no penalty from the league. here's a sampling. jets line backer brian thomas was accused of purchasing his wife in the stomach. he finished out the season and then retired. miami dolphins defensive end phillip merling was charged with felony battery on his pregnant girlfriend, continued playing the rest of the season. rocky bernard, he was in a nightclub, where he punched the mother of his child with a closed fist, striking her forehead, causing her forehead to hit a glass divider. his punishment from the league, suspension for a game, one year. about 14 domestic violence cases ended up with players being suspended. in all but one case, it was two games or less. 15 cases players were released or didn't re-sign. those cases involved players with marginal talent. so they were going to go anywhere. what does this say about nfl culture? brent, thanks for joining us. when you did this report, i want to stick to the reporting, because i think it's news to a lot of people. these cases involve real violence, not shoving, but fists and injuries, and would normally call in the courts, assault and battery. yet, whether they're considered felonies outside of the league, in the terms of the league's own discipline, they're a game suspension, or two-game suspension. what do you make of that? >> a lot of them are misdemeanor battery cases. you could certainly say the nfl has been lenient on this issue going back to 2000. there's been 90 since the year 2000. what's changed is the outrage over the release of the video there was never the public outrage until people saw what it looked like on camera. the league handling it with a one or two-game suspension. these cases are hard to prosecute in the court and by district attorneys. i think the nfl has tried to follow the lead of law enforcement authorities when they try to punish these players and it's not always easy. >> how do you get the evidence of what happened, when you can't make the case? will the spouse or the girlfriend not testify? is that the problem? >> yeah, that's generally the problem. in almost half the cases, the alleged victim doesn't want to cooperate with authorities. they don't want to jeopardize their family, their security. so -- >> why didn't the policeman who is following the case, because i know these cases are women being afraid of men, afraid they'll hit them again, or worse, kill them, so they're not going to go to court. but i thought the police officer is supposed to intervene and bring the charge himself, or herself. >> they are supposed to, but it can be difficult when the victim does not want to cooperate. when the evidence is he said, she said, it's hard to prosecute. but sometimes there are physical injuries that the police officers make note of, of course. but usually, for first-time offenders in a lot of states, this is how these cases get resolved. they enter a diversion program where the offender has to complete some kind of anger counselling, domestic violence counselling, community service. in exchange for that, the charge is dropped. that's happened in quite a few nfl cases too. i think the league has looked at that as sort of, okay, the charge is getting dropped. it's a diversion program. let's suspend him a game or two depending on the evidence. >> i want you to respond to this. there are more cases of domestic violence. green bay packers line backer eric wald own was charged with felony battery against his girlfriend. the girlfriend later changed her story to say she started the fight. he was suspended for a game. and another one, he said police threw his wife down the stairs and out of the house. the nfl suspended him for a game. cornell green, police say he slammed the mother of his children into a wall and hit her arm with a mop handle. he played in 12 games later that year. you see these guys meeting up with their spouses or girlfriends on the way out. did you see this kind of violent attitude towards women? >> no. i do not see this sort of violent attitude towards women. this isn't just a problem in the nfl. this is corporate america. >> it is? >> i think it's everywhere. right now it's just that the light is being shined on the nfl. the way the nfl works, they don't pay attention until there is public outcry. there's a sense around the nfl, this has been going on for years. it's just now getting attention. these problems aren't just happening in the national football league. this isn't the only sport and place in america where we're seeing domestic abuse. in terms of the nfl paying attention to it now, it's because the public is finally paying attention, that the report was able to recite the different reports of players involved in domestic violence. nobody paid attention to it in the past, but now they are -- >> you guys are both speaking the same language here. i want to go back to brent here. first of all, we're not talking about a screaming match, not somebody throwing a dish, or a slapping match. we're talking about throwing a woman down the stairs, punching a pregnant woman in the stomach, decking a woman in an elevator. you're telling me this is american life. is this your argument, both of you, this is the world we live in? >> it's not american life for most people. >> but jocks, the highly paid athletes? give me the sub set of america this reflects. i went to school with jocks. they got special meals and special everything. but the fact of the matter, in alabama, they're treated like kings. they can swagger around campus and be big shots physically and intimidate people. >> you can't just say this is in the sports world. you can't say that. >> what is it then? help me out. >> it is our society. but the thing that no one's paying attention to. the nfl is bringing attention to domestic abuse. but what are we doing with this now? for prevention? education? how are we fixing this problem, not just in the nfl, but across the country? because if you're going to say that these problems only exist in the nfl, then your eyes are shut. because these are happening in our towns, our communities, everywhere, all across the country. >> so let it go? >> no. no, don't let it go. use these football players, use the national football league as an example to teach, to prevent. that's the only way we'll see change. >> i saw the full page in "usa today." you're saying it's not news, it's to be expected that jocks beat up their women? >> no, it's definitely news because the nfl has such a high place in american culture. huge viewership on television and the media, they've never been more popular than they are now. they make a lot of the money. when they get their name in the newspaper for scoring a touchdown, they'll get their name in the newspaper for getting arrested for domestic violence. >> what's the gm, they pick up the paper, see their guy involved in something like this, 2:00 in the morning at some nightclub? what do they say? they have a meeting and say, scratch him from next week's game. >> no, chris, what they'll do with that. they'll wait it out, see what happens legally. because for them it's a business. the nfl is a business. >> it's pr. >> it's not even pr. they need to get those players on the field. they need to make that money. that's why the reason why roger goodell has had such a difficult time handling this. because his bosses, the owners of the nfl, are the ones he has to answer to. it's a billion-dollar industry and those players need to be on the field. >> i want to thank you both. the players who are the problem are going to love this. they're going to hear, we're just like everybody else. we swat somebody, that's what the other guys do. to is that what we to say to them? >> to the players involved? >> the offenders, the guys on the rap sheet. >> get help. fix the problem. there's eyes on you, a lot of young kids watching you, be better. >> great reporting, great work. up next, darryl hammond joins us. he's returned already now to "snl" as the show's announcer following the legendary don pardo. this is "hardball," a place for politics. ed the guys at composites horizons to map their manufacturing process with sticky notes and string, yeah, they were a little bit skeptical. what they do actually is rocket science. high tech components for aircraft and fighter jets. we're just their bankers, right? but financing from ge capital also comes with expertise from across ge. in this case, our top lean process engineers. so they showed us who does what, when, and where. then we hit them with the important question: why? why put the tools over there? do you really need those five steps? what if you can do it in two? whoo, that's an interesting question. ideas for improvement started pouring out. with a little help from us, they actually doubled their output speed. a hundred percent bump in efficiency. if you just need a loan, just call a bank. but at ge capital, we're builders. and what we know... can help you grow. back to "hardball." "saturday night live" kicked off its 40th season with a show that debuted darryl hammond, a veteran "snl" cast member as the new announcer. hammond appeared on the show for a record 14 seasons, takes the place of the late don pardo, whose voice over the years became synonymous with the show's iconic opening. i'm thrilled he's returned. how can i not thank him for doing me over the years. >> now, in order to book you, i had to agree to some ground rules, that i'm not crazy about. but as we say in the business, tough get, and you're great. >> again, chris, you're too kind. >> no-no, you're too kind. or as i mentioned already, you're also great. but this is "hardball" i've got to ask you some questions. uh-oh. [ laughter ] here it comes. >> it's now my pleasure to say, from new york, it's darryl hammond! darryl, i love you. you're going to be a part of that cast now forever. you're going to be institutionalized with "saturday night live." >> thanks, chris, you're great. [ laughter ] >> let me get ready for this. you're going to do darryl hammond, but you'll be playing in the foot steps of the legendary don pardo. how much of him are you going to be? >> just enough to, you know, sort of tip your hat to him, because he's really not replaceable in any way. i'm not even an announcer. i wouldn't ever try to replace him. but the idea was that we would sort of tip our hat to him. i think we picked like five vowels. spend two weeks picking five vowels and we're trying our best. >> you're picking up some sound from don pardo. >> you're picking up sound? >> no, you're picking up sound. you're going to replace some of the sound that he makes. >> well, yeah, you know, like, you can't just go -- you can't do him, and yet you can't not do him. so the idea was, do don pardo, but it's not don pardo. >> let's take a look at what you did, when i said to you, that you could capture the soul of bill clinton. here you are playing former president bill clinton and you just paid a visit to obama's bedroom in the white house. you're kind of a ghost of the past. let's watch. >> we heard you were tossing and turning over whether to push for federal regulations, so we're here to give you some advice. >> you two are the ones who stripped down the regulations. why would i want advice from you? >> dude, it was the '90s. people did all kinds of crazy things. [ laughter ] >> crazy things. so it's hard for me to believe you're going to be there making the announcements and somewhere along the line when bill clinton comes back into action again, when he's really back in action, and his spouse of all these wonderful years is going to be president of the united states, will somebody say, we need bill, we need darryl hammond? >> you know, it's kind of a place where almost anything can happen and usually does. there's really -- i mean, you know, it's about the most unusual place in the world. it could happen, but we haven't discussed it yet. >> i love your dick cheney. you were walking around the set of the oval office and it was dick cheney with the snarl. you were into him before we saw you on tv. you captured cheney better than anybody. we had you on in 2012 as our expert at the democratic convention. when the next one rolls around in 2016, will you promise to come back and help us? >> if you're taking me out for onion rings -- >> we're going to the weirdest most rural diner in the world like we did last time. darryl hammond, it's wonderful to have you on, thanks for being on the show and good luck as the announcer forever now. >> thank you, sir. >> announcer for life. >> that's fine. we got the round table to dig into bill clinton -- actually, barack obama and ebola and how he handles it. plus, the nfl's history of going easy on domestic abuse cases. how does hillary clinton this year cam paired to what bill clinton was like before he ran? so many interesting differences, but hillary does have advantages over the first bill clinton when he came to national life. we'll talk about that. we'll have a look at last night's minnesota senate debate between senator al franken and his challenger businessman mike mcfadden. here it is. >> have you done a town hall meeting since elected? i believe president obama has done more town halls than you have in this state. >> i have done so many public meetings in which people have the chance to ask questions. i have a minnesota breakfast in washington every wednesday, that your son came to. >> he's the most partisan senator in the democratic party. that's a fact, not my opinion. al franken is the ted cruz of the democratic party. 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(male announcer) today's the day to ask your doctor about levemir® flextouch. covered by nearly all health insurance and medicare plans. here's what's happening. wicked weather has been punishing the dallas ft. worth area. it's torn off roofs and flipped over cars. health officials say enterovirus 68 has been blamed for four deaths. protests began in hong kong late last month. now we take you back to "hardball." welcome back to "hardball." ebola and politics. how could the president's handling of the ebola situation affect democrats' chances this november? plus the dramatic evolution of the clinton brand from 1992 to 2016? we'll get to all of that with the round table. u.s. congressman jack kington of georgia. political reporter casey hunt and perry bacon. this is what president obama said about ebola two weeks ago. >> i want the american people to know that our experts here at the cdc and across our government agree that the chances of an ebola outbreak here in the united states are extremely low. in the unlikely event that someone with ebola does reach our shores, we've seen new measures so that we're prorpd here at home. >> we are now in the unlikely event. we are living in the unlikely event. what does that do to the president and government's credibility in saying there's nothing to fear? >> i think it hurts them. i think the american people are tender in terms of what this government does and says is sometimes very different. i believe that ultimately what the president needs to do, chris, is have some high figure profile person, like george mitchell with the middle east back in the day, or the irish situation, where he can say, i'm going to cut all the red tape. . the cdc and the dod and all the government acnimzs, they need to be on the same page with the world health organization. right now, i'm seeing too many agencies going in too many different directions and here's the case of a hospital that did not follow obvious, very obvious protocol and should have been able to prevent this. >> they sent the guy home. it took his nephew to come back and beg for admission. this is a tricky time. senate races coming up. congressman is involved in one. we have races that could tip. ten seats could go republicans because of uneasiness. just a sense of we don't like the feeling in this country right now. your thoughts? >> yeah, i think the ebola situation is dangerous. also focus on the secret service as well. there's a sense that a lot of things in washington are going wrong. isis, add that to it as well. a lot of republicans focused on the president's challenges and failures. that could affect the races, considering democrats are already at a disadvantage, looking at georgia, arkansas, so conservative in the first place. >> first i want to put my thought in here. we have second termitis going on right now. you bring in the second team, you get second-term performance. presidents when they get elected, my god, this is the biggest challenge of my life, i'm going to bring in the best team i can find. i want everybody in the room to be smarter than me. that's the standard they set, the smart president, whether it's reagan, or fdr, everybody in the room, smarter than i am. this administration is not that way anymore. too many staffers that are "yes" people and not the inclusion of new people. not staffers of staffers of staffers. that's my argument. as hillary clinton readies her presidential run, the clinton brand today differs sharply from 1992. in today's politico, the clinton brand is of 2014 is missing three key elements, the first was new ideas, second, was an authentic populist connection and the third one was change. casey, you study this stuff, i think -- well, i want to hear what you think. hillary has advantages, but not some of the advantages that bill had? >> right. i was with bill and hillary at that steak fry in iowa. it's so obvious that he loves this stuff. and she's still trying to figure out how to put her toes in the water. she's not as comfortable as he is, in sitting around and talking about the basics of politics. he was up, talking to reporters. he was spending extra time with voters. she was quick in her interactions. she was friendly and warm, but not relishing that kind of thing. i think that they do have a point in saying that she would be the first woman president. and i do think that sometimes we underestimate that, as far as how -- especially women voters would feel about putting, you know, a woman in the white house. she might not be a new generation, but that would be a really significant step. >> another plus she has we often overlook. she's a worldwide celebrity. everybody in the world who reads a newspaper anywhere knows who hillary clinton is. bill clinton was just a governor from a small state when he ran. >> exact ly, chris. >> i would rather be hillary clinton in 2015 than bill clinton in 1991. first, the celebrity factor. number two, democrats view bill clinton as a successful president and hillary clinton was beside him at the time. it will be a challenge. i think there's a challenge of what are her ideas? how is she different from bill clinton or barack obama? and two, there is that populism question. there's an elizabeth warren faction of the party. she's going to figure out how to meet that demand, how does she appeal to those people? that said, she's got a great start. he's way ahead of anybody else for the democratic nomination. so i think these three problems are smalling whi challenging i say. bill clinton was a southerner. i remember down in waco, texas, the young clerk in the hotel i walked into, he said i kind of thing those two boys are going to win. there was a sense of regional guys running in their 40s. bill clinton carried george, i believe in '92, lost in '96. can hillary clinton have a shot in a place like georgia? >> i don't think she can. and james carville was the governor's consultant when he was running. but i think we also have to remember that bill clinton was running after 12 years of republican rule and with a very bad economy. now the economy is not so great, but it's not the republicans' fault. i think that's going to hurt her. but getting back to bill clinton's southern charm, if you will, i've met him many times. he's a likeable guy, an approachable guy. he can talk to the heads of state. he can talk to the gas station attendant. hillary clinton does not have that skill, and she can't fake it. >> do you ever talk to her on that one to one basis? i've done it and it's a different hillary when you meet her. i think he's very easy to get along with when you meet her, if she's not afraid of you that day. she should be afraid of people like me, maybe that day. but you're on the other side of the aisle. when you're with her personally, do you find her off-putting or cold? what would be your definition? >> no. but i don't find her warm and friendly and charming. what i do sense with bill clinton is a guy who is genuinely interested in me. when he's talking to me, that's his focus. he likes to know how the clock works in terms of the human personality. tell me about your job, and he can connect with you, but hillary's little more stand-offish. a little more academic, if you will. >> you've given me something for my next book. that's great. he likes to know how the clock works. casey, we got to come back with all three of you folks. let's talk about the secret service scandal. this latest one about the guy getting tipsy and spreading the word about the president's travel schedule. that can be dangerous doing that in the middle of the night. anyway, this is "hardball," the place for politics. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. ♪ ♪ ♪ woooooah. ♪ [ male announcer ] you're not just looking for a house. you're looking for a place for your life to happen. zillow. then give it your all to make a difference. and when you make it to point "b," you realize you had even more to give. capella university can help you do more because our competency-based curriculum is designed for your profession, giving you what you need to get to the place you want to be -- your point "c." capella university. start your journey at capella.edu. last night i was a guest at the historic al smith dinner. smith was a man of the people, a side walks of new york kind of guy. the dinner offers a platform every four years for the two presidential candidates to go head to head. every year it raises money for the poor kids of new york, kids of all religions who are raised in tough circumstances. if you want to help the al smith cause, go to the website www.al smith foundation.org. or send a check to the al smith memorial foundation, 1011 first avenue, new york, new york city, 10022. he would have been a much better president than the man who beat him, herbert hoover. anyway, we'll be right back. your customers, our financing. your aspirations, our analytics. you we're back. just when you thought it couldn't get worse for united states secret service, another scandal hits. a former aid on mitt romney's presidential campaign is saying that his secret service campaign lae leaked president's schedule to ryan's staffers back in 2012, during the campaign. sean mccoy published on the ground in a key swing state to coordinate security ahead of several cam feign stops by the president. in one particular incidenincide secret service agent who had a number of drinks during the meeting began providing details of president obama's schedule. including times and dates of the president's events. congressman, we all know if you've got a guy scheduling, you've got his whole plan figuring out. it's also a security issue. we're not supposed to know where the president is going before they want us to know. what do you think of a secret servicejegent getting a little tipsy or even drunk? >> what was he doing at a bar? what was he doing drinking to begin with, much less running his mouth. i think that's why speaker boehner and chairman mccawl are right for the entire secret service culture, if you will. that kind of incident, we don't hear about it. it was reported through back channels. the president was not told about it. i think what the chairman is going to do is find out more about this and find out how evasive it is. >> i think this is imperative where agencies have tremendous track records. you can be t't assume that the team will always win, you can assume that the secret service will always be as wonderful as it was when it saved reagan's life. >> somebody getting on the elevator with the president and have a gun, a, and then, kbrb, e the president not know about it, that story particularly was very strubling. >> you know what's worse? he had a criminal record. you know what else is worse? he had a cell phone camera going. imagine doing that to the president close range? >> the one thing i will say here is, you know, and i covered rodney aes campaign. i got to know many of the secret service ajengents who protected romney pretty well. most of the secret service agents are in it for the right reason. but that said, this is probably only the tip of the ice burg. we've forgotten there was an ins de incidents where one of the secret service agents left a gun in the bathroom of the plane. so i think for every instance that we're starting to hear about now, there's probably two or three that we're unaware of. at this point, as perry and the congressman were saying, really a management question. that's the kind of thing from the coupleture at the top that matter it is most. >> i think leadership is key, anyway. come back whenever you want, sir. we like having you on. casey hunt, perry bacon, we'll 3w right back. >> thanks, chris. >> thanks, chris. then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind. it's no wonder last year we sold over three million tires. and during the big tire event, get up to $140 in mail-in rebates on four select tires. ♪ no. not exactly. to attain success, one must project success. that's why we use fedex one rate. their flat rate shipping. exactly. it makes us look top-notch but we know it's affordable. 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