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it. the. through a large round arch in the eastern cloister the monks entered the chapter house the assembly room above the stout romanesque pillars is the dormitory where all the monks slept. in the chapter house the monks were released from their vows silence this is where issues and developments affecting the ministry were discussed first a monk would read the legend of a saint or a section of the book of rules then the abbot would comment on the reading and if you practical instructions for work assignments next came the monks confession in a loud voice they acknowledged their sins and faults and the abbot decided what form of penance or punishment was required on sundays and religious holidays les brethren were also admitted to the assembly but they had to leave before the monks confession. in its simplicity of line the abbey church at fontenay appeared to mises the ideas of scent ban on unlike most sister ocean churches it was built with only one story and large arcades. the church is sixty six meters long and seventeen meters high and nestles discreetly among the of a ministry buildings but inside its uniqueness becomes apparent. was. the. i. the chancellor square like the cloisters and brightly lit by six windows was. the old to inbound last time was probably a simple table was. was the sculpted figures on the wall behind were added after his death was. a narrow staircase leads to the monk's dormitory. they slept in their clothes their hoods pulled over their heads the beds were hard consisting of a thin layer of straw on the floor a sheet a woman blanket and a pillow with the only concession to comfort the sleeping places were separated by low walls. fontenay did not enjoy a long and happy existence as an abbey during the hundred years war between england and france in the fourteenth century it was sacked and plundered many times later in the baroque period the monks increasingly came to resemble those they had once despised they accumulated wealth acquired feudal rights to villages and large areas of land and ruthlessly exploited the peasants the boundaries of the monastery extended further and further outwards. rebellious peasants raided the monks granary but when the abbot sought protection from the french king they moved out of the fire into the frying pan now their property was plundered by the crown. a few tears were shed when the abbey was expropriated during the french revolution that was in seventy ninety later a paper mill was set up on the site the abbey looked like falling into total decay but then fortune smiled once again the property was bought by a banking family from leone who set about rebuilding and restoring fontenay to its original state. it was no longer the time for a major religious movement but the new owners did succeed in creating the perfect replica of. the buildings also stand as a reminder of one of the great figures of medieval europe. a charismatic leader. according to his own. name those ideas are presumed immortalized in stone. the conflicts. the powerful. it's a year. in the. gun on losing in state elections around the my guest here in washington is here a time that a long time advisor to hillary clinton why all the democrats finding it so hard to find a new direction. all . firing.

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down. sounds seedy and weird, of course it is. still not the strangest thing happening in washington right now. tonight we have more on the ongoing saga of the trump dossier. senators chuck grassley and lindsey graham have launched a probe into former national security advisor susan rice. in the very final minutes of the obama administration, just afternoon on inauguration day 2017, rice sent herself an email on the white house computer system. in it she describes a meeting she had attended just two weeks before on january 5th. at that meeting were president obama, vice president joe biden, fbi director jim comey, deputy a.g. sally yates and susan rice herself. according to rice in this email, obama instructed the officials in the room to consider withholding national intelligence from the incoming trump administration in case they were compromised by russia. in other words, almost two months after the presidential election, barack obama viewed trump not as his democratically elected successor but as a traitor and a russian spy. obama viewed himself as someone who somehow had the right to withhold government documents from an elected president. that's not the behavior of someone who believes in democracy. and, yet, that meeting set the tone for that year and all subsequent arguments since. democrats have treated trump and his elections as illegitimate ever since then. and at the heart of their case against trump and this administration is the steele dot yea. so this day the dossier is the only publicly available document that details alleged collusion with russia. now, of course, we have talked a lot about the dossier on this program. but relatively little about what is in it. what does the dossier actually claim? is any of it true? after more than a year of probing by politicians and intelligence agencies and journalists, here's the sum total of what we actually know about the document that started all of this. we know the dossier was compiled by christopher steele, acting as a contractor of fusion g.p.s. with funds supplied by the hillary clinton campaign and the dnc. the dossier was a form of opposition research designed to be used against trump in the presidential campaign. it was not an intelligence document. it was oppo. the dossier claims that russian authorities didn't simply collude with trump during the 2016 election, the charge you hear a lot about. it also claims that russian intelligence cultivated donald trump as a kind of asset, a kind of one-man sleeper cell for more than five years. there is no evidence of that. the dossier also claims the kremlin fed the trump team intel reports on hillary clinton and other political opponents for years. there's no proof of that either. it claims trump was favored by moscow with lucrative russian real estate deals as part of his cultivation as a political asset. that sleeper cell. no proof there either. according to the dossier, trump and russia were exchanging intelligence with each other for at least 8 years no. proof of that the dossier goes on to describe the clandestined meeting in prague between michael cohen and representatives that supposedly took place in august of 2016. this is one of the very few claims in the dossier that has been conclusively checked and it's false. cohen wasn't even outside the u.s. at the time the meeting supposedly took place. in sum, the steele dossier is absurd. the closer you read it, the more absurd it is. take 10 minutes to do so yourself. it's online. as you read it, ask yourself who would believe something like this? it's so transparently partisan and unlikely and stupid and flimsy, it reads like a parody of a badly written spy novel. at the same time he was firing people on the apprentice, donald trump was working with vladimir putin to subvert america? it's hard even to say that with a straight face. it's that stupid. yet, keep in mind and never forget, this is the document the fbi used to justify spying on american citizens. these are the claims that democrats in congress repeatedly cited as the reason to stop the normal functioning of government in order to investigate the administration. this is the famous dossier that even today progressives in the media are spending millions in an attempt to corroborate. and it's all a stupid joke. amazingly a lot of people in power fell for it. congressman ron desantis is a republican representing the state of florida and he joins us tonight. congressman, thanks for coming on. >> good evening. >> tucker: the meeting that susan rice describes had her email the vice president and vice president sally yates and comey is really revealing. trump was accused of considering obama foreign with the birther stuff. obama did consider trump foreign, a foreign agent. can a sitting president deny government documents, intelligence to an incoming president? >> i don't see how you can do that. i mean, just think about what yates was on to at the time with michael flynn met with kislyak, the russian ambassador. that was one of the reasons why she sent the fbi agents to flynn once he got in. so they were creating some type of boogie man really out of flynn acting like any incoming national security advisor would. >> tucker: a president's authority and legitimacy comes from voters winning an election. that's what makes you the president. how can one president say i don't think the next guy should have this. i don't think is he worthy of this information. >> i think it's improper to do that. it's interesting. this january 5th meeting in the oval with comey, what did comey do that very next day? that was when he briefed trump on the dossier. he went to trump tower. he showed him the dossier. that eventually got leaked to cnn and then that allowed the dossier to get put out into the bloodstream. also, during this whole transition time have you an unprecedented campaign of leaking classified information designed to put a cloud over trump's incoming presidency. so i think susan rice has a lot of questions that she is going to have to answer. why would you all of a sudden right as you are leaving the white house do that email saying obama said do it by the book? it's just a really odd thing to do. she was trying to create a record and the question is why did she feel the need to do that. >> tucker: what's the answer? >> i think we have to find out the answer. i think it was clear that by the time trump got inaugurated, i mean, you had the permanent bureaucracy in the obama holdovers. they were putting, feeding information to the press on a daily basis. the first two or three months of his administration was constant bombshell reports, quote, unquote, all based on anonymous sources, all based on former or current u.s. officials. and that really started from the day he got elected all the way until the appointment of robert mueller as special counsel. >> tucker: the dossier itself which is the center the public consumption claims that trump was being cultivated by russian intelligence forever five years prior to becoming president is there any evidence that's true? >> no evidence that that's true. think about even what they used for carter page. i mean, the idea that the russian oil company -- energy company was going to give him 10% stake or 20% stake in a company that is so big that would have been $10 billion that they were going to give to carter page and the fbi used that to get surveillance. so the only thing that has definitely been corroborated is that carter page did travel to russia during the campaign. did he that. he gave a public speech. none of the other key facts have been corroborated at all. >> tucker: not surprisingly. am i overstating it when i say as a normal person readings the dossier it seems prima facie absurd. you would have to be a moron to take that at face value. >> that's my reaction to it it's spectacular and something that comey was actually right about. salacious but unverified. >> tucker: yet, they used it as a basis for spying. it's upsetting. good sty. richard good stein is an power of attorney. he advised both of hillary clinton's presidential campaigns e joins us tonight. richard, great to see you. >> that for having me back. >> tucker: concedes this is the very center of everything. this comes from buzzfeed. the publication now has apparently hired a former fbi official and others to travel the globe and try to corroborate it so far without success. but you buzzfeed is at the center of this. the fbi used this buzzfeed document to justify spying on an american citizen. so i'm wondering, were there other buzzfeed documents that are partisan? i read buzzfeed i'm sure do you too. >> of course. >> tucker: 31 things girls do in the bathroom but don't talk about. >> anything you want to talk about relevant to the facts that you love. >> tucker: stuff you love if you are lactose intolerant but can't stop eating dairy. >> fbi shielded donald trump because they knew the intelligence community knew that's what they briefed the president and vice president about in the susan rice memo about the fact that russians had interfered and outside the rules to go after hillary clinton. can we at least have that as a premise? >> tucker: the premise is this: allegations were made against the trump administration. very specific ones. that they colluded with the russian government to win the election that moreover the president had been a long-time russian agent. and those are very serious allegations that former president took them serious enough as you just heard he considered withholding intelligence from the income president. so the question is if you make agencie allegations like tt do you have any obligation to prove them and do you have any obligation to apologize? >> let's talk about five year business and talk about what we know. what we know is michael flynn was a foreign agent. >> tucker: wait, slow down of russia? i'm asking. >> perky, we know that. >> turkey is the same as russia? >> he didn't disclose what he was being paid by russia or turkey we know that. we also know because of the wiretaps of kislyak that he asked kislyak, look, go easy we're going to not proceed with the sanctions. guess what? we just saw that within the past two weeks. lo and behold they did it shocking. >> tucker: am i misremembering this? i think he campaigned on that in public. does that make him a russian agent? that's actually a policy position you can be against sanctions in russia as i am the and not be a russian agent? does that make sense. >> any russian official would be derelict if they knew that the national security advisor coming in could be compromised because he had lied about the fact that he was a foreign agent. he did not disclose that and guess what? just like rob porter was subject to blackmail, so was michael flynn and guess what if you are coming in -- i'm south i didn'ting we don't know, you are putting this as trump. what the president was saying in the susan rice memo is essentially we have a guy who is going to be sitting stepping from the oval office who is a foreign agent. okay? and we know he has got these ties to russia. we know he approached kislyak. and we can't trust that he won't approach kislyak about something that's more secret than sanctions. >> tucker: let me just ask you a question. are you allowed to a virch view on sanctions than the one barack obama has or the one that you have or is that criminal? >> it's not a question -- >> tucker: do you realize you are going insane on tv. you are saying things totally legitimate and acting like they are immoral. >> have your official a foreign agent that is insane. that is demonstrably insane. that's what we h sorry. >> tucker: no, actually we didn't at that point. >> yes, we did. >> tucker: i would say as i have said 100 times on this show that it was wrong for mike flynn to make money from the government of turkey in point of fact when he showed up to the white house he was not a foreign agent at that point. like a lot of people in washington, including a lot of people you know, he took money interest a foreign government to change american policy. i think that's wrong. it happens every day and our policies are driven by that fact as you know. >> do that in the white house. in the white house, he used his authority to basically push policies that were going to benefit turkey he told susan rice don't go into raqqa, why? because it would involve the kurdish military which was adverse to turkish interests. you talk about traitors. that's traitorism. >> tucker: traitorism. we are coining a new word. >> we are. >> tucker: none of that actually get to the point. you are saying he had taken money from the turkish government. that's wrong. i agree with you on that. but none of this has anything to do with the core claim, which is basically wrecked our government for over a year. and at a certain point do you feel like maybe you are responsible for this insanity which is destroying the concept of due process, making it impossible for anyone to think clearly? do you think maybe i'm part of this. maybe i should pull back a little bit and be rationale. >> four points in 10 seconds. the russians said to the trump people we can help you. donald trump jr. love it, bring it on. the russians did it with wikipedia and trump, therefore, used it 100 times on the campaign trail encouraging the russians to steal from hillary clinton. okay? >> tucker: oh. >> that is a problem. >> tucker: so does it bother you that the hillary clinton campaign paid through a foreign intelligence agent steele, russian sources to gather russian government information to use against their opponent, donald trump? i'm not sure why that's so different? >> i will tell you. >> tucker: oh, very different. >> one step, the russians stole and what hillary clinton did was get information that was frankly a matter of public record. >> tucker: right. a matter of public record that trump was working for the russian government for five years? what public record was that? >> incidentally when the mueller report is finished, we will see what is fact and what's not. you can laugh. we can laugh. >> tucker: i can't tell whether you believe it or not. >> you might be the last one laughing here. >> tucker: i don't know. i may have to leave the country. if all i believed in is not true. pierce morgan made the stunning claim that former white house aid and semiprofessional television official omarosa offered him sex for n. return for her helping her win celebrity apprentice. that's not the only thing she is up to next. up next deny or confirm. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ some moments can change everything. you can't always predict them, but you can game plan for them. for 150 years, generations of families have chosen pacific life for retirement and life insurance solutions to help them reach their goals. being ready for wherever life leads. that's the power of pacific. ask a financial advisor about pacific life. but thanks to our forester, neither did our story. and that's why we'll always drive a subaru. bad as y'all think trump is, you would be worried about pence. we would be begging for days of trump back if pence became president. that's all i would say. he is extreme. i'm christian. i love jesus. but he thinks jesus tells him to say things. i'm like jesus doesn't say that it's scary. >> tucker: meanwhile over on "the view" another reality show the host there characterized the vice president's religious faith as mental illness. >> look, i'm catholic, i'm a faithful person, but i don't know that i want my vice president, you know, speaking in tongues. >> like i said before, i don't know -- >> it's one thing to talk to jesus. it's another thing when jesus talks to you. >> exactly. >> that's different. [applause] >> that's called mental illness if i'm not correct. >> tucker: ppiers morgan joins us. >> hey, tucker. >> tucker: what do you make of this political pundit and dismissal of -- >> i find it absolutely ridiculous that we are even having to discuss omarosa in any serious political context of the only reason we are doing that was because she was allowed to have an office in the west wing of the white house for nearly a year. i don't know why donald trump would have ever let her in there. she is already behaving exactly how i could have predicted she would behave. in other words, squealing like a canary and taking them all down as, of course, she is going to. she is only rosa. she is a reality television star whose only to be poisonous viper spreading gossip, inend dough and terrorizing everyone in her wake. first question, what was she doing there? >> tucker: i couldn't agree more. >> i mean, seriously. >> tucker: russian story this is a bigger scandal. omarosa worked in the white house? really? democrats didn't even notice. i guess she seems normal to them, i guess, i don't know. >> qui hav we have all this stuf porter. he shouldn't have been there either given what we know about him. questions for the administration right to the top about who knew what what, when, and where. if we are going to apply that logic and judgment to rob porter. where was that judgment about omarosa with her own office in the west wing? it is almost beyond parody. there is a serious point to this, tucker, who is the president surrounding himself with? i have known donald trump a long time. when i took part on celebrity apprentice with only rosa. he has to have better people around him in the white house, i think, than the types of people we see with rob porter and omarosa. >> tucker: i think omarosa is probably in her own category. i can say, you know, having been over there a few times it's not chock-full of omarosas. she did work there she became famous for being horrible. i don't think it's an overstatement. you worked with her on the apprentice. what's she like? >> she is absolutely appalling. i mean, literally one of the worst human beings i have ever encountered in my life. i have encountered a lot of bad people. she has no saving grace. she was vicious, conniving, scheming, plotting, treacherous. she -- i mean her first gamut to me day one first challenge. she side arms up to me hey, piers we should have a showmance everyone on the apprentice has sex together and we could sell that and make lots of money. i said are you completely diluted? please, go away. she said what's the matter with you are you gay? i said no, just because i don't want to have sex with you on this show it doesn't make me gay. i'm a victim of omarosa, tucker. but she gave me then for four or five weeks unrelenting five barrels of abuse, tirades, homophobic stuff and really vicious, nasty stuff. i couldn't believe it. she got beaten on the show. i ended up winning it. that stuck in her mind as well. come forward to the campaign middle of 2017. she is going to be working for donald trump the candidate. what? how can that even make any sense. then i hear when he wins she is going to be in the white house. now, look, again, i have a loft respect for donald trump. but i'm afraid with omarosa this made no sense at the time. it makes no sense now she has left. she apparently achieved absolutely nothing in her time in the white house other than disrupting everybody. and you can just bet your life she was there listening, plotting, scheming, probably tape recording. we're now going to have celebrity big brother and all this stuff will come out of this. then we will have the book and then the docu series and lifetime movie, tucker at which point you and i will have to leave the country so ridiculously absurd. [laughter] >> tucker: that's one of the most vivid descriptions of anyone i have ever heard. have you been in contact with her? i suppose you are not texting each other. >> we have not stayed in touch. did i bunch in to her at wwe wrestling event. the nausea i felt in the exact moment she made that proposition to me all came flooding back. i literally had to run to the restroom and regurgitate what i had done all those years before. she is beyond any reproach. she is a professiona professione territory. least trustworthy human being ever conceived on god's earth. for her to be lying in to mike pence about religion when religion has somehow created this monster is beyond any sense of realism you could ever wish to have. >> tucker: what a life you lead running into omarosa at wwe is so fantastic. piers morgan, come back any time. good to see you. >> i will. food to see you. >> tucker: thank you. democrats aren't pretending anymore. dick durbin said it out loud. we need to import more peasants so employers can save on wages. true that story in its details next. ♪ ♪ without starting from scratch. it brings your business up to speed, doing more with systems you have in place. it can bring all your apps to life and run them within your data center. it is... the new ibm cloud private. the cloud that's designed for your data. ai ready. secure to the core. the ibm cloud is the cloud for smarter business. brilinta may cause bruising or bleeding more easily, or serious, sometimes fatal bleeding. don't take brilinta if you have bleeding, like stomach ulcers, a history of bleeding in the brain, or severe liver problems. slow heart rhythm has been reported. tell your doctor about bleeding new or unexpected shortness of breath any planned surgery, and all medicines you take. if you recently had a heart attack, ask your doctor if brilinta is right for you. my heart is worth brilinta. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. stay at la quinta. where we're changing with stylish make-overs. then at your next meeting, set your seat height to its maximum level. bravo, tall meeting man. start winning today. book now at lq.com we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids start winning today. every minute counts. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield. that's why we show you exactly when we'll be there. saving you time, so you can keep saving the world. >> kids: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪ >> tucker: democratic senator dick durbin of illinois was surprisingly forth right this week about why we need mass immigration to the united states. immigrants, durbin says, provide the low paying surf labor that american employers desperately want. watch. >> take time you look next time go nice restaurant city of chicago. look who just cleaned the dishes off the table and when the door swings look who is in the kitchen doing dishes. by and large going to be immigrants doing those things. not many of us say to our sons and daughters i'm hoping the day will come when you decide to go and pick fruit for a living. hardly ever hear that because we know it's hard, back-breaking work and immigrants do the work. so many jobs that they fill are jobs that americans aren't jumping to fill. >> tucker: actually fruit is picked by machines but whatever. ron eiler executive director of define american. he joins us tonight. ryan, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: so striking for someone as old as i am to have a democrat make this case. millions of americans who can't get by have the country can't get $400 on a day's notice. what they need are higher paying jobs. here you have a democratic senator saying no. the point is making sure employers pay as little as possible. import a lot of people from third world countries that will work for less. why is that helping americans and why is the emphasis not on raising their wages. >> yeah, tucker, i think what i would suggest that senator durbin was leaving out is the fact that many immigrants, in fact, twice as many as citizens start businesses. they come over, they try to bring their families, to start family businesses. join families of faith and, sure. many are working in our fields and frankly our agriculture industry would not survive if it were not for the three quarters of immigrants working in that industry just like in many cities. >> tucker: i don't know if your facts have caught up to current reality which is agriculture is increasingly mechanized. takes far fewer people. >> it is. >> tucker: overwhelmingly mechanized, actually. among daca recipients about a group we know a lot. what's the most single common job among daca recipients? working in restaurants. >> yes. >> tucker: you are talking about low wage, low skilled jobs and also talking about people who are less educated than average native born americans. only 5% of daca recipients have college degrees. that's exactly the group of jobs that's going away because of automation. there has been a lot of the study on this. very weird to me that you would import millions of people to do jobs that are disappearing. why are we doing that. >> because the more immigrants that come here the more jobs that are actually created. so the rhetoric is good and i realize, look, i'm here in kentucky. we are a poor state. my own family, as a matter of fact, i worked on a farm when i was growing up. i know what kind of back-breaking labor that is i know what we're talking about. i'm worried about that part of the economy, too. but, the truth of the matter is, what we're talking about here has been the backbone of our entire country since the beginning. it's always been family-based migration as it was for your family. >> tucker: what you're doing and i realize you are a minister. i get it you are making a kind of moral argument. i would say half-baked. i'm making economic argument. do you know what supply and demand is the never changing rule if you have overabundance of something its value falls. if you bring in a million new labor borerers, every year what happens to wages at the end? can you guess? they go down. >> all the data is suggesting overall on the whole wages go up on that economic argument. i would say that's the same for your great grandfather. >> tucker: i'm just as an economic matter, how did we suspend the law of supply and demand when it comes to immigration? it applies to everything else in life. sand is cheap there is a lot of it. not cheap for immigrant labor because of why. >> because the more human beings that are in a place the more they can buy your products. the more human beings that are creating businesses, the more business and entrepreneurship you have. that's been the trick for all of american history. that's what has made our economy so vibrant. go back on that, tucker. >> tucker: hold on, so by that i don't think you have the facts on your side. as theoretical side if low labor makes you rich why isn't mexico richer than the united states? >> well, first of all, i would suggest that you can go to define american.com/facts matter and can you see all of these facts. >> tucker: it actually is richer than the united states? is importing poor people makes you rich, why hasn't it worked for the rest of the world? >> why is the america, tucker that was good enough for my great grandfather and clearly good enough for your great grandfather who didn't have the merit that you are talking about to come, why is that no longer the america that's good enough for. >> tucker: i would say you know nothing about for one thing my great grandfather and secondly because the economy has changed. it's 2018. we are in a post industrial part of the economy. it's also a lot easier to get here than it ever was. and by the way mackenzie just estimated by 2030 we are going to lose 73 million jobs. you seem not at all concerned by that i bet you if you looked at donors they are big businesses that want cheap labor. i'm throwing that out there. that's just a guess. ignoring facts relevant to modern america. >> as a matter of fact, i'm supporting those facts. look, we ought to be concerned with the mechanickization of labor. immigrants are not creating that as a matter of fact, look at all the businesses created by immigrants in silicon valley it would not be here literally if the current plan on the table that the senate is looking at and that the trump administration is proposing were to be passed. >> tucker: oh, that's actually -- hold on, i'm not here to defend congress or trump or whatever. i just want to defend the country and say then why wouldn't we limit all future immigration to immigrants with the same profile of the people who started those businesses in silicon valley? >> well, because that's not what the current plan suggests. >> tucker: no, no. why wouldn't we say look, if you have an advanced degree in engineering, you can come here, how is that regardless of color and national origin and if you have a high school education you can't. would that work? >> did your great grandfather or did you have engineering degree at graduate level. >> tucker: i was born here. these are people who don't live here. we get to decide whether they come or not. why wouldn't we get people more impressive why would we bring in people with fifth grade educations? what's the answer? >> well, because we are a country in our most prominent harbor reads give me your tired, your poor. >> tucker: you don't have economic argument. but you are going to recite a poem. los angeles judge just handed a big win to illegal immigrants and big set back to the rest of the country. we will give you the details next. liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? 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>> well, actually the characterization that you make is incorrect. these are not people who snuck on in. these are majority of these people were individuals who were here on a work visa that had expired. some individuals in this case were actually u.s. citizens, who were just born in a foreign country. and what happened here is a practice going on in many parts of the country. local jails. los angeles sheriff's department children services surprised by. typically you see this in more obscure places. >> tucker: let me be clear about something. the american citizens are born in other countries, that's a mistake. that's not germane to the policy. that's not germane to this debate. they were accidentally picked up and shouldn't have been. >> part of the class of plaintiffs that sued and actually won in this situation. that's not true, tucker. >> tucker: what is true is the judge's order pertains to people here illegally. and i should clarify. it doesn't matter how you got here whether you ran over the border and stayed here illegally. >> one person was a u.s. citizen. at least one person. >> tucker: that doesn't apply. u.s. citizens have a right to live here by definition. it's their country. people here illegally don't have right to be here. >> tucker, if i could state this. what was illegal here was how the los angeles county sheriff's department was operating. they basically were getting these detainer requests and it's a request. it's not a requirement for them to act in accordance with. okay. by ice. okay, so it's voluntary on their part. they are not required by law to act on this. they were then going, rounding up and picking up people simply on these detainer requests which did not have any probable cause. that's what the judge found there was no probable cause for these detainer requests. >> tucker: what do the americans have. i'm losing track here. do we have a right to tell people who are not here legally to leave and make them leave if they don't leave? >> tucker, what you need to walk away with in this case is that undocumented immigrants have legal rights. >> tucker: i hear every day. what are our rights as americans do we have the right people here legally to leave. >> we have the right as tax paying citizens. we have a right to make sure our tax dollars are not being directed towards chasing people who are here and whose matters are to be dealt with in -- they are supposed to be dealt with in civil court. these are civil offenses. these are not crimes. being here because you overstayed a visa is not a crime. it is a civil offense. >> tucker: let me ask you did. >> to be dealt with in the immigration courts which we as the taxpayers pay for. >> tucker: i would like to get a clear answer on this. which is does the country have a right to determine who from other countries gets to stay here and to say you are not allowed to be here, you didn't go through the process that our congress designed and now you have to leave? you are saying no we don't have that right. >> i'm not saying that. >> tucker: yes, you are. >> i'm saying the courts found. >> tucker: devoted a lot of time stripping us of that right. >> i'm not an immigration attorney. i do not devote any time to what you are stating. what i'm saying that the court found these are matters that have to be resolved. civil offenses that have to be resolved in the immigration courts. >> tucker: i get it? >> that's what has to happen. >> tucker: hold on. this is important this is the core question. >> and so is the judge's ruling. >> tucker: does the country have a right to tell people who are here legall illegally to leave and you are saying no. the entire left is saying no. >> i'm not saying no and neither is the left. we have laws that provide protections. these matters, if you want to deport somebody, that's fine. you don't go to a criminal court. you go to the civil court, immigration court. >> tucker: no jurisdiction in the state in immigration matters? that's what you are arguing? >> they do have jurisdiction in. >> tucker: they do? tell that to the attorney general of california. >> in the immigration court that have been established by our laws and that we as taxpayers pay for. when they take money out of your paycheck and take money out of mine, it's to pay for these courts to make sure people do. >> tucker: illegals being mean to weren't supposed to be here in the first place and we are violating their rights. i wish you would spend more time thinking about the rights of american citizens. >> i do. i'm an american citizens and we protect ours and those who have constitutional rights, which they do. supreme court decision. >> tucker: i got that thanks. >> have a great valentine's day. >> tucker: yeah. a princeton professor has been forced to cancel his class on free speech after a students couldn't handle speech. that story with brit hume next. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain infection caused by a virus may be possible. this condition has not been reported with entyvio. tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio. if your uc or crohn's treatment isn't working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach. we are the tv doctors of america, and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. from scandalous romance, to ridiculous plot twists. 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[laughter] so, brit. >> it's been a while though. don't ask me how long it's been. >> tucker: i won't. but, what i found so striking about this one, this class -- this is not something he threw out there. this class was about speech, what speech is offer. it was anthropology class. how odd is it that princeton students couldn't handle it? >> well, we're talking here about the n word, which is one of the ugliest words in the language. >> tucker: for sure. >> we don't go around using it for that reason and it's offensive. however, i would submit there is a difference between using the word and mentioning the word. there is a difference between using the word that is to say calling someone that or speaking of others and using that word saying that they are, you know, that. and mentioning and discussing the word. and in a class devoted to this very subject of language and what's offensive and what's not, you ought to be able to mention the word and in so doing say the word. after all the professor wasn't calling anybody by that name. he was simply discussing the word itself. and that's a distinction that seems to me has been lost in this absolute wave of political correctness in which some things are simply now unsayable. >> tucker: yes. >> to me it makes no sense. >> tucker: like most people i hate that word and i don't want to hear it i also would like to think that princeton students would be rationale enough to say we are having a speech violence. is speech ever violence this is a horrible thing and here is what it is. they would be able to track that be smart enough to understand what you are saying but it doesn't seem like they were. >> no. i think one of the problems here, tucker, is that, you know, america is a compassionate country and a country that strives for justice and equality and we want to be sensitive to other people's feelings. and, therefore, if you're a victim in any of these areas, it's kind of a good deal. you get a lot of consideration. you get a lot of sympathy. and it seems to me that we have reached a stage in america where we have people basically going around applying for victim status or seeking to be offended so they can react to it and be indignant and even yell f bombs at college professors. and i sense that it's utterly regrettable. you see this sensitivity going on all the time. we talk about snowflakes. our colleague fox news contributor guy benson ran into resistance up at brown university and ivy where people said it was offensive and wrong for him to be permitted to speak there. this all spartan part of the same phenomenon. widespread and widely reported on. i think most people in america disprove of this and yet on it goes. the responsibility falls upon university administrators and the faculty which put up with this crap and have for a long time. and this needs to stop. >> tucker: in the letter at brown they accuse guy benson probably the nicest guy in the building enabling white supremacy. if you had an 18-year-old right now would you be worried about sending that child to college? >> well, i have an 18-year-old grand daughter who is at college. and i'm pleased to say that there hasn't been many reports at the college where she is going of this kind of stuff going on. but it very much concerns me and, yeah, i am concerned about it and i got another granddaughter coming along in a couple years heading off to college and i very much hope that she'll choose a college and will be able to get into a college where there is a minimum of this kind of stuff going on. more than that, tucker, i hope by this time that that attitudes about this will change and these college administrators will begin to grow some backbone. >> tucker: i hope. so the revolution will burn itself out. brit, thank you very much. >> you bet, tucker. >> tucker: great to see you. if you travel at all, you know that cnn is ubiquitous in airports. why does america's least impressive cable channel dominate america's least pleasant location. we actually looked into that question. we have got findings for you next. ♪ ♪ ♪ the tears are in your eyes, mvo: how hard is it just to take some time out of your day to give him a ride to school and show him you support him. ♪ and don't be ashamed to cry, ♪ let me see you through, ♪ 'cause i've seen the dark side too. ♪ ♪ when the night falls on you, ♪ you don't know what to do, mvo: when disaster strikes to one, we all get together and support each other. that's the nature of humanity. ♪ i'll stand by you, ♪ won't let nobody hurt you. ♪ i'll stand by you, ♪ so if you're mad, get mad, ♪ don't hold it all inside, ♪ come on and talk to me now. ♪ hey, what you got to hide? 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being set by the you they have stuck to them very closely there they have showed unity over them yes they would be ready to make some compromise on small walding but at the end of the day this is the deal if you want to avoid a tough practice if that is the message today from brussels this is what's available and that's what the u.k. will have to walk on their markets and bustle thanks but about. you also need of a new life from berlin more coming at the top of the hour return with jobs out for more analysis where that. interest rate waiting. for a lifeline to syria. good morning where are you why aren't you answering. every call brings them closer together. but it hurts because they feel powerless to help. they worry about the ones they've left. i'm trying to be strong. the war continues to haunt those who fled from syria. my father our two part documentary starts december eighth. islam would follow and women's rights are not contradictory sense since. she is the editor of the multicultural women's magazine because the author of various books on islam and is our guest today thank you for being here. let's start without quote. many germans believe that muslim women are eclipsed and oppressed in society as a feminist do you agree with. this is a reality and that's why i wrote a book about women called muslim girls ten years ago about a multifaceted reality for women in germany who have different ethnic and cultural backgrounds and of course there are many women unfortunately often muslim women who really are oppressed. but there are many who have managed to go their own way and have fought their way out of difficult circumstances so it's hard to say that muslim women per se are oppressed. and one controversial subject or symbol perhaps is the headscarf some people in mainstream society think that women who wear a headscarf are more radical in religious terms than those who don't there's really is this true. on. the bus as if you know well many from the first and second generation wore them more for traditional reasons and there was an association that they were peasants or had lower qualifications or might even be illiterate. so there was this idea that if a woman wasn't very educated she would wear a headscarf. but now there are women here who wear head scarves although they went to school here went to university graduates. so the old idea of the headscarf has changed and also the easygoing idea that they had sky. as a fashion accessory think of grace kelly or dree hepburn for example. by the ari happened after the islamic headscarf is a pure product of patra and it's linked to dress code. so women who wear a headscarf through religious reasons probably cannot understand why some would wear it for reasons of fashion. they aren't flexible enough to wear one from time to time nor will they show their shoulders or wear short skirts or. and this is problematic because we're talking about a dress code that emancipated women would probably not adopt for themselves. in. these if you visibly decided not to wear a headscarf your considered a modern woman how did you come to this decision. i was going to think one has to be careful about making assumptions about women who don't wear headscarves they to be reactionary have one sided views being racist almost such an esteemed. there are many women in reactionary and neo fascist movements in the turkish ultra nationalist gray wolves organization there are many women who don't wear headscarves so one has to be very careful that there are also many women who do wear a headscarf who are very open who accepted if their children tell them they're gay or their sisters say they going out with a non muslim this is also a reality. but there is a problem with the fact that most women who represent islam in public tend to wear headscarves and not be critical so there's a need for much more differentiation. personally i chose not to wear a headscarf very early on. i saw that the koran didn't call for it and as a feminist i wouldn't accept a dress code because i really believe women should be allowed to wear what they want and. i'm. just. since i'm also interested in fashion i wouldn't want to be restricted. xin talk you're the daughter of moroccan immigrants what was it like at home by your parents very strict very religious very conservative but. i'd say my family is conservative because tradition is very important for them for my parents especially my mother it was always important that i knew what my roots were every sunday i had to learn the qur'an by heart like all children who usually go to qur'an school and so i had a very traditional religious education. but my family and parents are also very tolerant and accepting and in the end their love for their children to me in this case one. in five. there wasn't any dogma about what a girl can and can't do. of course this had an influence on me very conservative doesn't necessarily mean reactionary and narrow minded. urgencies are you saying that your tolerant family could serve as an example for other muslim families in germany was leadership from leading in georgia different men and yes in many ways i find my parents incredibly inspiring. i was able to discuss all kinds of religious questions with my father but he always wanted me to ask questions and engage in discussion. for my mother too it was very important for me to become an independent woman she never went to school she's a literate she always supported me and my mother is very open minded at first glance she might not appear to be so with her limited skill set up but i really appreciate that in her. and i would like my mother to be an inspiration for others to within my family she has been an inspiration in the sense that other women have educated their daughters with more freedom that's what i'm just on the phone enough that you know i had. those in seattle you're also a feminist and proud of it what brought you to feminism did something or someone especially influenced you that got up and i just mentioned my mother and i think that she unconsciously laid the first foundation stone and of course my drive for freedom is an important aspect without feminism without the women's movement this wouldn't have been possible. early on i read feminist literature i read emma regularly for instance i always got it out of the library which doesn't mean i agreed with everything sometimes i was very confused for example when muslim women were perceived as lacking something whereas i knew from my family from my experiences in morocco in my environment that there were also muslim women who lacked nothing. out of being muslim and independent and not necessarily contradictory but of course in some societies it means having to face more resistance than are by them as i mentioned also talk about muslim men yes there have been many cases of sexual violence against women in germany some politicians have spoken of young testosterone driven muslim men. you've also written about such men in one of your books. of abuse can these men even be taught what it means to respect women by being just as highest respect for fallen through that i would have put that when actually archy is very present then men and their image of women can also be very problematic can they learn yes i believe very strongly that some men can change their image of women of patchy arche . because many themselves suffer from patrick. structures what's needed a new spaces where men can talk about these issues there's a project in germany called heroes where men can talk about things such as on or about patriarchal structures and admit their weaknesses as it were they also need protected spaces just as women do. dr white as one of the. big german islamic conference is taking place for the fourth time next week you've been invited in the past what is it about. because i must admit that nothing's ever really stuck with mame i've never had an epiphany with regard to this conference. is our conference it certainly has triggered many initiatives there are now theology departments way islam is being taught and studied and reinterpreted there are people interpret in the qur'an from the perspective of gender and equality and that's made a difference. but islam is now being taught in schools as well the discussion about islam in germany has changed and many more muslims are being involved in the debate but. there are also more muslims who can be involved in the day it was not only these are conservative associations exactly there are many people who say that they represent islam but they basically represent themselves and very few muslims in germany and then on the other hand there are people who criticize islam and then there are many muslim women and men who are following their own path. often i mean an apartment recently a new association for secular muslims was set up there's a lot happening and much of this is thanks to the islam conference. so what are the wouldn't you say that there's much debated german form of islam is a model for the future for example more tolerant and equal life there is a congregation in berlin which practices this reform of islam is this the way forward of practice here is that the megan's law doesn't work and what's interesting is that as long as they have been muslims living in germany there's been a form of german islam perhaps with a turkish influence or a moroccan one or a salafist one. all of this is german islam. we muslims in germany are going to have to develop a form of islam on the basis of the german basic law that supports the values of freedom. humanism. these can of course be drawn from the qur'an and tradition. but it's going to be a tough process because of course the old and new power structures will clash. with . the traditional islamic associations are going to have to fight for their power and they might not have the same power in ten or fifteen years as they currently have. so. we always end the d.w. interview with three sentences that we ask our guests to complete them and that's then if the integration of muslims in germany is to be successful then. we have to be much more self-critical on both sides and on the side of the so-called migrants we should perhaps not use our own grievances as a yardstick for action but be more willing to criticize ourselves. indoor to german scared of the country being islami fide because of muslim immigrants i would say. that we are taking a deep breath look at the facts and get involved. i'm looking forward to christmas because this city is a so beautifully lit up there and it always reminds me of my wonderful summer holidays in morocco i like the season because it's lovely. i'm sure and stark thank you so much for the way thank you. euro max highlights. french quite finnish fashion is. illuminated why moscow by night is magical. breathless what it means to film extreme sports. euro back next. digital 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thank you we all december seventh. want to shape the continent's future. youngsters as they share their stories their dreams and their challenges. seven percent. platform. and women's rights and not contradictory says. she is the editor of the multicultural women's magazine goes out the author of various books on islam and is our guest today thank you for being here. let's start without. many germans believe that muslim women are eclipsed and oppressed in society as a feminist do you agree with order. this is a reality and that's why i wrote a book about women called muslim girls ten years ago about a multifaceted reality for women in germany who have different ethnic and cultural backgrounds and of course there are many women unfortunately often muslim women who really are oppressed. but there are many who have managed to go their own way and have fought their way out of difficult circumstances so it's hard to say that muslim women per se are oppressed. at. one controversial subjects or symbol perhaps is the headscarf some people in mainstream society think that women who wear a headscarf are more radical in religious terms than those who don't. really is this true. on all of them just as well many from the first. and second generation wore them more for traditional reasons and there was an association that they were peasants or had lower qualifications or might even be illiterate. so there was this idea that if a woman wasn't very educated she would wear a headscarf. but now there are women here who wear head scarves although they went to school here went to university graduates. so the old idea of the headscarf has changed and also the easygoing idea that the headscarf as a fashion accessory think of grace kelly ordering hepburn for example. after the islamic headscarf is a pure product of patra and it's linked to dress code. so women who wear a headscarf for religious reasons probably cannot understand why some would wear it for reasons of fashion. they aren't flexible enough to wear one from time to time nor will they show their shoulders or wear short skirts or. and this is problematic because we're talking about a dress code that emancipated women would probably not adopt for themselves. and were not as easy as guns or you visibly decided not to wear a headscarf your considered a modern woman how did you come to this decision in leaving the rules governing that one has to be careful about making assumptions about women who don't wear headscarves they too can be reactionary have one sided views be racist or massage an estate. there are many women in reactionary a neo fascist movements in the turkish ultra nationalist gray wolves organization there are many women who don't wear headscarves so one has to be very careful there are also many women who do wear a headscarf who were very open who accepted if their children tell. the mayor gayle the sisters say they going out with a non muslim this is also a reality. but there is a problem with the fact that most women who represent islam in public tend to wear headscarves and not be critical so there's a need for much more differentiation. personally i chose not to wear a headscarf very early on i saw that the qur'an didn't call for it and as a feminist i wouldn't accept a dress code because i really believe women should be allowed to wear what they want. i'm. just. since i'm also interested in fashion i wouldn't want to be restricted. zone talk you're the daughter of moroccan immigrants what was it like at home by your parents very strict very religious very conservative but you run a family i'd say my family is conservative because tradition is very important for them for my parents especially my mother it was always important that i knew what my roots were every sunday i had to learn the qur'an by heart like all children he usually go to qur'an school and so i had a very traditional religious education. but my family and parents are also very tolerant and accepting and in the end their love for their children to me in this case one. in five. there wasn't any dogma about what a girl can and can't do. of course this had an influence on me. conservative doesn't necessarily mean reactionary and narrow minded. burdens are you saying that your tolerant family could serve as an example for other muslim families in germany was leadership from meeting important to the front line and yes in many ways i find my parents incredibly inspiring. i was able to discuss all kinds of religious questions with my father to feel way. wanted me to ask questions and engage in discussion when i'm with for my mother too it was very important for me to become an independent woman she never went to school she's a literate she always supported me and my mother is very open minded at first glance she might not appear to be so with her limited skill set up but i really appreciate that in her and i would like my mother to be an inspiration for others to within my family and she has been an inspiration in the sense that other women have educated their daughters with more freedom. and the fallen enough and. i hope . you're also a feminist and proud of it what brought you to feminism did something or someone especially influence you. when i've just mentioned my mother and i think that she unconsciously laid the first foundation stone and of course my drive for freedom is an important aspect without feminism without the women's movement this wouldn't have been possible. early on i read feminist literature i read emma regularly for instance i always got it out of the library which doesn't mean i agreed with everything sometimes i was very confused for example when muslim women were perceived as lacking something whereas i knew from my family from my experiences in morocco in my environment that there were also muslim women who lacked nothing. of being muslim and independent and not necessarily contradictory but of course in some societies it means having to face more resistance than are by them as i mentioned also talk about muslim men yes there have been many cases of sexual violence against women in germany some politicians have spoken of young testosterone driven muslim men. you've also written about such men in one of your books i mean can these men in. towards what it means to respect women libeling us as highest respect for the i would have thought that when actually archy is very present then men and their image of women can also be very problematic can they learn yes i believe very strongly that some men can change the image of women of patchy arche. because many themselves suffer from patrick or structures what's needed a new spaces where men can talk about these issues there's a project in germany called heroes where men can talk about things such as on or about the tree arkell structures and admit their weaknesses as it were they also need protected spaces just as women do. what is. the good and the german islam conference is taking place for the fourth time next week you've been invited in the past what is it about. because i must admit that nothing's ever really stuck with mame i've never had an epiphany with regard to this conference. because our conference certainly has triggered many initiatives there are now theology departments way islam is being taught and studied and reinterpreted there are people interpret in the qur'an from the perspective of gender and equality and that's made a difference that. islam is now being taught in schools as well the discussion about islam in germany has changed and many more muslims are being involved in the debate but. there are also more muslims who can be involved. but then it was not only these are conservative associations exactly there are many people who say that they represent islam but they basically represent themselves and very few muslims in germany and then on the other hand there are people who criticize islam and then there are many muslim women and men who are following their own path. recently a new association for secular muslims was set up there's a lot happening and much of this is thanks to the islam conference. confident that our wouldn't you say that this much debated german form of islam is a model for the future for example more tolerant and equal life there is a congregation in berlin which practices this form of islam is this the way forward as of. yet it's just their view. that's what's interesting is that as long as they have been muslims living in germany there's been a form of german islam perhaps with a turkish influence or a moroccan one or a cell or first one. all of this is german islam. we muslims in germany are going to have to develop a form of islam on the basis of the german basic law that supports the values of freedom and humanism i hope that one is the about all these can of course be drawn from the qur'an and tradition. but it's going to be a tough process because of course the old and new power structures will clash. with but that's not. the traditional islamic associations are going to have to fight for their power and they might not have the same power in ten or fifteen years as they currently have. some. we always in the d.w. interview with three sentences that we ask our guests to complete them and that's then if the integration of muslims in germany is to be successful then. we have to be much more self-critical on both sides and on the side of the so-called migrants we should perhaps not use our own grievances as a yardstick for action but be more willing to criticize ourselves. then door to german scared of the country being islami fide because of muslim immigrants i would say. that we are taking a deep breath look at the facts and get involved. i'm looking forward to christmas because the city is a so beautifully lit up then and it always reminds me of my wonderful summer holidays in morocco i like the season because it's lovely. socks thank you senator. thank you. climate 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yes the 1st 10 democratic presidential hopefuls have clashed in a televised debate there from a wider field of contenders with some of the more well known names debating later today elizabeth warren cemented her status as a front runner in the 1st round. watching g.w. news up next our documentary film impossible piece examines the treaty of 1st sign time terry mark thanks want. to wish he'd have to get through the plane to sneak a break without a football thanks again. to the women's vote and. excitement the same emotion and not so. explains the 19 women to. the close of the results yet on t w. for 4 years from $914.00 to 1918 and europe seemed on course to destroy itself. on august the 4th 1914 germany invaded belgium. most of the world's major powers was soon drawn into the conflict. by the time the war ended almost 40 nations in europe africa the middle east and east asia were involved. the so-called rich war was fought with unprecedented destructive power a total of more than $16000000.00 people were killed. the allied powers including the british empire france the united states belgium italy and serbia had defeated the central powers the german empire austria hungary and the ottoman empire. when the armistice was announced in 1918 people in the allied countries took to the streets to celebrate. the french writer seymour now described the scene in paris. when the crowd young factory workers and fashionably dressed ladies hugged and kissed each other. to greet him piles of europe were falling apart i. the wars that have killed millions prompted new demands for independence. in april 916 irish republicans in dublin launched an insurrection against british rule. but the uprising was poorly organized and was put down quickly by british troops once again the union jack flew over the irish capital. the australian garion empire a truly multinational stage had ceased to exist by early november 1918. the empire is larger ethnic minorities including czechs slovaks croats and slovenes demanded independence and hopes that america would help them achieve it. u.s. president woodrow wilson sought to create a jury of peace as part of this effort wilson announced that from now on the peoples of europe should be governed only by their own consent he described self-determination as an imperative principle of action. empires collapse. i people rose up in revolt i. x monarchs fled the last austrian emperor charles the 1st step down from the hapsburg throne he and his wife tito were exiled to madeira in 1921. in 1922 turkey's new parliament expelled the last autumn and sultan messmate the 6 several new states would emerge from the ruins of his empire . but some monarchs were celebrated as here it was. during the war belgium's king albert of the 1st had fought alongside his troops his wife elizabeth served at the front as a nurse i. germany's occupation of belgium ended with the armistice that was declared on november the elevons 918 i. belgians honored canadian troops who had played a major role in the last great offensive of the war known as the 100 days in that operation canadian unit suffered more than 45000 casualties. in the flanders region of northern belgium scottish troops seized a german supply train filled with hand grenades. as german forces retreated from northern france they destroyed everything that lay in their path. after the armistice life in europe slowly began to return to normal. the end of the fighting was announced on the morning of november the 11th the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. the armistice remain. in force as negotiations on a final peace treaty got underway the talks would be difficult not least because hatred continued to smolder throughout europe. french writer on summed up the situation. i fear that we are hardly more prepared for peace than we were for war the most critical phase begins now fortunately we won the war. how did germany react to the armistice and the peace talks. the germans were ordered to evacuate the territory they had occupied in belgium and france including the regions of a sas in german troops pulled back behind the rhine river. german troops returning home after the war found that society had been severely disrupted . the. emperor vilhelm the 2nd stepped down as german emperor and king of prussia on november the 9th 1918 as required by the armistice agreement he spent the rest of his life in exile in the netherlands. many germans saw the abdication as a humiliation. in germany troops were often welcomed home by large crowds many germans didn't believe they had lost the war on the battlefield i put that they'd been stabbed in the back by politicians. who later at all fittler would use that train to advance his own political agenda. on november the millions 918 a german republic was declared by philip shadowman a member of the new cabinet. that. was the this. was. the marxist agitator who's a look some borg wrote bush was society mimics order peace and the rule of law but it is wading in its own blood filthy and a sonnet the russian revolution was the honorable salvation of international socialism. russia november 19th 17 the bolsheviks led by vladimir in each lenin seized power the country to send it into a bloody civil war between communist and anti communist forces. british french and us troops were sent to various parts of the country to fight the bolsheviks captured allied soldiers were shown in propaganda films. lenin denounced the foreign intervention. that. would. light. up like that. i the russian revolution divided your own until later the entire world. i in december 1918 woodrow wilson became the 1st sitting u.s. president to visit europe his delegation included franklin delano roosevelt assistant navy secretary and future president. wilson attended a series of preliminary negotiations ahead of the paris peace talks. i will cement his wife edith arrived in the french capital on december 14th the city gave them a tumultuous welcome i mean. we'll build a prosperous world in which all nations will enjoy the freedom for which france america england and italy have paid such a high price i in january $918.00 wilson presented a 14 point plan for postwar peace in parts it proposed self-determination for ethnic minorities and the creation of a league of nations to guarantees of political independence and territorial integrity of all states. encouraged wilson met frequently with the french prime minister. george klim also had been appointed prime minister and minister of war in november 917 and called for a complete victory over germany and the return of a sus and logan 2 fronts. clear also also demanded that germany pay huge reparations for the damage it had caused during the wall. but the british and u.s. delegations were concerned that reparations would ruin the defeated powers financially and could lead to domestic tensions and even civil war as in russia. president wilson spent the last 5 days of 1918 in britain and on january the 1st travelled to easily for talks with king victor emmanuel and the prime minister. wilson also began preparing for the international peace conference due to open on january the 19th. he continued to push for the approval of his 14 point program including the right of self-determination for minority people yes i was warmly received. by the italians but that had more to do with america's participation in the war than it did with his peace plan. italian nationalists fear that wilson self-determination proposal could lead to territorial losses one of their more prominent spokesman was a journalist benito mussolini the future italian dictator called wilson a bandit of international pluralism i. the paris peace conference was intended in part to conclude peace treaties with the defeated states set up a shared tool of reparations payments to be made by germany and draft international borders that accurately reflected ethnic bond ribs. a total of $27.00 states took part in the conference but the negotiations were dominated by the big 4 allied powers. president wilson french prime minister also british prime minister david lloyd george. and the talian prime minister vittorio emanuele orlando. for the next several months the participants negotiated the terms of peace treaties with the defeated powers the german delegation was not allowed to take part in the discussions. they hoped that the final treaty would be based on wilson's 14 points and would not involve any loss of territory. the germans were deeply concerned that clemenceau would take a hard line and weaken the new german republic so as to eliminate its ability to threaten from us i. i. at the end of 6 months of discussions the various delegations arrived at the palace of versailles to sign the main peace treaty. the ceremony took place on june the 28th 1919 the date was no coincidence. exactly 5 years before on june the 281914 the heir to the australian garion throne archduke franz ferdinand had been assassinated in sarajevo his murder had plunged europe into war. the choice of that side was also symbolic it was here that the new german empire was proclaimed in 871 following france's defeat in the franco-prussian war. klim also had 4 severely wounded french soldiers posted at the entrance to the main hall so that the german delegation would see them when they arrived. the germans took their places at 3 in the afternoon and they had me a minute to read and sign the treaty. the conditions imposed by the allies were harsh germany's army was cut to 100000 men tanks submarines and military aircraft were banned the size of the navy was sharply reduced germany was also ordered to hand over its former colonies and to pay reparations the final amount was later set at $269000000000.00 goldmark's. that treaty and its alleged injustices were used by at all for hitler to promote his nationalist agenda this footage shows hitler as a right wing demonstration in 1919. at that time he was working as an informer for the german military many germans considered the versailles treaty unfair and hitler speeches played to their worst fears. their side was a disgrace this dictated piece is plundering our people it's outrageous france our mortal enemy has its hands on our throats. hitler drove home the point that many germans were now living in poverty. let the shaman hatred of 60000000 germans turn into a sea of flames. the treaty require german soldiers. to hand over their weapons in return they received financial compensation. supervised the destruction of the german aircraft and tanks. many senior german officers felt humiliated by all this the military began training what was left of its army into an elite force that would one day perhaps be able to take its revenge on france and. the new weimar government was constantly under threat by right wingers and militarist austrian born not only hitler soon emerged as one of their most prominent spokesman. as early as 1919 german friday cause started painting swastikas on their helmets. officer and angst you know wrote this war is not the end of violence it's the beginning. war veteran feedly feel him hundreds. when we heard that the war was over we just left we were the war the flame of war continue to burn in us. a town full of about 350000 black troops served on the western front one of the most famous afro-american units was the 369-0048 tree regiment known as the harlem hell fighters. civil rights activist marcus garvey demanded racial equality. we believe that blacks should have the same rights and privileges as other people. but president wilson favored a policy. he of racial segregation at the same time that he was promoting the right of european peoples to self-determination i will some campaigned across america on behalf of the peace treaty and the league of nations. the treaty would have to be ratified by the u.s. senate but wilson could not put together the necessary 2 thirds vote. as a majority party the republicans were opposed to it mainly because the league of nations would limit the senate's power to declare war. public opinion on the treaty was mixed with most of the opposition coming from republicans ethnic germans and irish catholic democrats. wilson tried to win them over. if we were ject beleaguered nations we will break the world's heart. the senate by failing to ratify the versailles treaty shattered wilson's dream of u.s. participation in the league of nations i. would be held its 1st session in paris in january $920.00 and later that year moved its headquarters to geneva. the organizations main goal was to preserve world peace but could it do so if the united states was not a member of. several posts that cya agreements changed the map of europe and the middle east. and $919.00 treaty formally dissolved the ostrow hungary an empath and created an independent state of austria on 1920 treaty set up the independent state of hungary to new states appeared on the map czechoslovakia and a nation that would later be known as you. new borders paid little attention to ethnic distribution germans were now living in poland and czechoslovakia and carians in remaining year and sabse croats and slovenes in yugoslavia these ethnic groups have lived together more or less peacefully in the australian garion empire . the ottoman empire had been home to a diverse mix of ethnic and religious groups including out of. the treaty of 7 signed in 1920 outlines the breakup of the empire and the creation of a new state that would mainly include ethnic turnips. from autumn and territory in the middle east would be divided between france and britain france was given a league of nations mandate to govern lebanon and syria. a similar mandate for palestine trans-jordan and iraq was awarded to britain. there were huge reserves of petroleum in iraq and they would now be controlled mostly by britain. the treaty also provided for enough tone i'm a scottish region in the new turkish state. jewish communities have existed in palestine for centuries. beginning in 1920 large numbers of jews most of them from europe began immigrating to the region . zionist organizations demanded that a national home for jewish people should be created in palestine. during the war britain had said that any new jewish state should not disrupt existing arab communities britain made these and other promises to win arab support against the ottomans. the british officer t.e. lawrence better known as lawrence of arabia served as a liaison between the british and arab forces. in november 921 the jewish agency for palestine was created to oversee jewish interests in the region. zionist leader and future israeli president high in vitamin noted at the time palestine will be as jewish as angle and is english and america is america. the seeds of the conflicts between palestinian jews and arabs had been so. in 1920 tensions were running high in constantinople now known as istanbul. immediately after the armistice allied troops occupied the city by this time a nationalist movement was already taking shape. the movement was led by general mostafa. who had led alterman forces to victory in the campaign. the nationalists were opposed to the partition of the country as outlined in the treaty of 7. if we accept the allies demands there will be no end to their greed. came our organized a new army its primary goal was to drive out greek troops that had occupied the coastal city of smyrna in may 919 and then taken over much of western turkey. to bomb us forces launched a counterattack in all this 922. they pushed the troops all the way back to the aegean coast. on september the 9th 1922 commands troops reoccupied the city of smyrna. 4 days later a fire broke out in the city's armenian district and spread quickly at least 10000 people are said to have died. evidence indicates that the blaze was started by turkish troops kamar later denied any responsibility. tens of thousands of ethnic armenians and greeks fled to the docks to escape the flames at least 150000 were evacuated by british and american ships. meanwhile officials of the league of nations were actively working to repatriate prisoners of war and to improve living conditions for wall refugees. one of these diplomats was norwegian explorer a humanitarian and future nobel laureate future of finance and in 1921 months and was appointed the league's high commissioner for refugees. in 1922 he began issuing refugee travel documents that came to be known as nuns and passports. an estimated 450000 of these documents were issued to people who could not obtain passports from their governments the recipients included russian french artist marc shall die and russian composer 7 rachmaninoff and igor stravinsky. many of the refugees wanted to emigrate to the us and made their way to the french quarter shell bored to book passage on ships. many of them were housed at the newly constructed or tele. the facility could accommodate and process 2000 refugees at a time they were given a thorough medical examination and disinfected if necessary the refugees were housed in the hotels. dormitories until they were cleared to leave. at this time the united states still welcomes immigrants all the restrictions would be imposed in $924.00. the statue of liberty served as a beacon for many of them a poem written by emma lazarus is inscribed on a plaque inside the statue's pedestal. give me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. in montreal a rally was organized to call attention to the plight of ukrainian jews famine and anti semitic attacks were widespread in ukraine. an estimated 100000 jews were killed in ukraine joining the russian civil war mostly by anti communist forces the war would continue until 923. the bolshevik red army defeated a coalition of opposition forces known as the white army soviet rule was now imposed across the country 7. the union of soviet socialist republics was officially declared on december 22nd 1922 the new states now covered nearly one 6th of the us land surface. there was a major famine from 1921 to 221 major cause feel thora he seized commodities from peasants to feed the cities and the military. an estimated 5000000 people died in the famine. food supplies deleted by europe of the united states soon started arriving. will shine for also an american relief worker describes the situation in one region. people heat waves meckstroth ground balls tree bark and clay they also eat meat from horses dogs cats and rats and they eat straw. there or may see it and dozens die every day. the stench is appalling. by the end of the civil war an estimated 1500000 russians had left the country but many of them settled in france often in paris only. the emigres were concerned about the spread of soviet influence throughout the world. the economic and social dislocation was caused by world war one prompted many people to join communist parties they believed communism would bring about equality for all. the. support for the communists grew in london berlin new york midland and rome. one of the founders of the italian communist party until new gramsci travel to moscow in 1921 to study the soviet system. one lives for the party. in italy many anti communist veterans joined a movement led by war hero gabrielli done once you're. done once you opposed the treaty of versailles because it ordered italy to hand over territory to the new yugoslav state including domination and the city of fuming now called week out. our victory has been ruined. douglas you sought to make italy a flow straight european power. italy your time has come wonderful years lie ahead i hear the thunder of eagles tearing through the night. in september 1919 dugongs years troops occupied few. i i. was the italian government kept trying to drive down out of the city and he finally left in december 1920. 1 she wrote that europe was in a state of transition. the old world is dying and the new world has not yet been born in times like these gruesome phenomena appear. loose phenomena included benito mussolini his wife left noted that mussolini had a certain natural magnetism. his eyes cost a spell over you his gaze was wanting his pupils flushed he knew that his eyes exerted power on others. in the years before the war mostly he had been a socialist and worked as a journalist in 1914 he became a fervent nationalist. in midland in 1900 he founded a fascist combat squad which consisted of about 200 men. mostly copied much from company and they don't see oh yeah as his supporters wore black shirts. he used the ancient roman salute. carried jagger's and popularized the slogan annoyed with us. by 922 mostly news organization had grown to include 300000 men. his populist slogans helped him to bring together veterans disabled veterans the unemployed and members of the lower and middle classes alike. miscellanies blackshirts often engaged leftists in street battles their slogan was mini friedel i didn't care. mostly he promised to restore law and order he enforced his policies by arming his supporters with clubs. muscling he also promised to put a stop to labor strikes. that helped win the support of industrialists including giovanni oniony founder of the fia total movil company. the political situation in italy was changing quickly. on october the 28922 about 30000 fascist militiamen gathered in rome to demand the resignation of the prime minister speaking known as the so-called march on rome. mostly nereid the next day from his headquarters in milan last i. he wore a suit and tie instead of his usual fashion. uniform. on october the 29th king victor emmanuel appointed mussolini prime minister. as the head of government mussolini chose a policy of cooperation with the catholic church and pursued his aim of transforming italy into a challenge tarion state. in germany militarist and nationalist factions united around general eerie shootin dogs who had been the de facto 2nd in command of german forces during the war. newton doff would later support at all fitna. hitler said. our people are miserable we must act now so that they do not join the communists. in january 923 french and belgian troops occupied the rule region because germany had fallen behind in its war reparations payments. those payments contributed to an economic crisis this included runaway inflation the german government kept printing more and more money. much one point a loaf of bread cost 460000000000 marks. 13 year old amanda described the situation. when our father brings home his daily pay we spend it right away because the money will soon be worthless. in the rule region tensions increased between the local residents and the occupation troops. these pictures show a french officer assaulting germans who failed to remove their hats during a funeral procession. on november the 9th 1923 hits law and his cohorts staged a coup attempt in munich. the uprising was quickly put down by police and soldiers . hitler was arrested. stefan side wrote at the time. in 1023 the swastikas disappeared and the brownshirts and ad off hitler were forgotten. in his rather comfortable prison cell hitler set about writing his political manifesto to be called mine comes my struggle this work outlines hitler's political and social ideology and maps out his plans for germany. in spain general me again primo daily vera overthrew the parliamentary government in september 1923 and set up a military dictatorship. my young and talented army officer francisco franco rose steadily through the ranks during the early years of primo to the various regime. franco was now about to embark on a successful career with the spanish foreign legion in morocco. in 1921 franco had been promoted to deputy commander of the legion of spain controlled a strip of land in northern morocco that included the brief mountains the rest of morocco was a french protectorate during world war one local residents. were forced to work in the mines that provided role materials for french armaments factories. in september 1921 the people of the reef region declared their independence from spain past the uprising was led by mohammed abdul karim who managed to unite the various berber tribes. on july the 21st the insurgents inflicted a decisive defeat on spanish troops at the battle of i'm while. the rebels suffered 800 casualties out of a force of about 3000 experts differ on the number of spanish troops that were killed or wounded but the losses was human. in september 925 french and spanish supported by warships landed on the northern moroccan coast pushed inland and defeated the insurgents. atrocities were committed by both sides. this moroccan soldier beheaded his brother who had joined the rebels. a number of spanish soldiers were executed by the insurgents after they had surrendered and. the french and spanish launched air attacks against rebel positions. spain used mustard gas a chemical weapon against the insurgency. to combat teams of naval air and ground forces finally brought an end to the fighting. in may $926.00 up to korean surrendered to the french news reels of this event was shown in french cinema. is elderly father and his family who seek the protection of the victors. historians define home a significance of the brief war some see it as the last of the colonial conflicts others believe it set the stage for future walls of d. colonizing. the years of mediately following world war one while mobbed by major social and political dislocation. many people abandon religion and turn to political engagement to try to make some sense of life. by the mid 1920 s. fascist movements were growing throughout europe. by the late 1920 s. economic crises threaten to spin out of control and plunge the world once again into conflict. more. than through the conflict with 2 sebastian the 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offering numerous events workshops and concerts the library forms a new cultural focal point in the center of the city to. be as cool as central a cultural center in bilbao spain is also based on the principle of openness its library is the work of french star designer philip stark. in one part of the building you can see people swimming in a pool which is located in the upper part of the building true of glass floor. the cultural center aims to establish a feeling of community encouraging exchange plus relaxation people should feel at home here. all of these library buildings like to look into the book offer a new experiences. but what role do books still play in 21st century libraries the library of future still contains books. but it's about its. being a place it spawns a place for everyone or everyone to come it's about knowledge it's about not only can human knowledge but also making new knowledge. dusty bookshelves more yesterday the libraries of the future are being completely redefined. when she's on stage time stands still and that's when genuine feels most comfortable the dutch violinist has played on stages all over the world with some of the most renowned orchestras and conductors and her conclusion after years of exhausting concert schedules is that life is precious a max in that's all the more discernible in her music. one hour to show time time so warm up in the church. superstar violinist janine jensen has invited her father young young son to join her in concert they play together for decades. music or language the true speak requires a few words. when at 1st most guidance. something doesn't go well then we play it again we don't necessarily talk about what went wrong or how we can improve that we just listen to each other. dearly of course i have learned that from my parents and they find it to be one of the most important skills in making music to. young started young brothers great harpsichord and joining was assigned the violin although she was initially jealous of her brothers. but it all paid off for johnny she went on to become the most successful musician of the family by mid twenty's she had established a career on the international stage and was celebrated for had passionate performances. joining johnson live so her life on the world stage is. she performs across the globe taking the stage up to $120.00 china. past the travel and the freshest took. its ports and taxis there was little time to process the intense experience kept us. on how to write i learned that as they say the hard way in 2010 with a burnout. yes that's why it is incredibly important that you also take the time for yourself and not just play concert after concert in south. today she is enjoying playing with her family. also from those strict about making her practice. as of friday practice voluntarily in the news and you have to make it interesting. to do hossam amin. in the beginning having fun was always most important and you made it beautiful that's the joy of making music food as music. and johnny johnson's joyful music house remains undiminished. i don't forget you can find more on those reports and more culture news at any time on our website and without of course the time for me to sign off so until next time i'll just go to punt on somebody and off he doesn't abide by. me. to the point of strong opinions clear positions international perspectives. this was supposed to be the decisive weeks of exit but when i went to trial simply even whether the u.k. will leave the e.u. remains unclear now the timetables partly after brussels can westminster seal a deal that's our topic on to the point join us. 30 minutes on the. race. who do the oceans belong to the fisherman who depend on them for that by the hood. or corporations just hope to make money. a global struggle for control is on the way the consequences for nature could be devastating. i'm sure grabbing new normals of the sea in 75 minutes on the w. . when we were out he presented americans at some point in our lives will experience hardship listen hot. dog. fights. to france tear antone and tears to see the distance of his house i'm sitting on a terrace in twilight it's peaceful my 3 grandchildren sleep untroubled as asked outside time when i was 8 trances age germany was split in 2 and remain divided for decades and it was my given him up when your mother was born in 1969 the world was already 8 years old and you know my grandchildren were born after the wall fell born in a marine unified to the wonderful time of time a time of great joy. 3 generations one family on a journey through. recent german history. language. in the in our family and 1st starts november 6th on d w. this is d w news these are our top stories nato defense ministers have been discussing the situation in northern syria and efforts to stabilize the region turkey's recent incursion into northern syria and its collaboration with russia a nato rival have been causing tensions the german defense minister's proposal to create an internationally enforced security zone received and lukewarm reception. the jailed week activist ilham told he has been honored with this year's sucker of prize for his work defending china's we go minority beijing's crackdown has seen more than a 1000000 wiggers locked up in internment camps until he himself sentenced to life for separatism the award is the european parliament's top human rights prize parliamentarians praised his attempts to build bridges with china's han majority. the remains of spanish dictator francisco franco have been exiled from a state muslim and moved to a private family vault the rebel follows a lengthy legal battle between his family and the socialist government which argued franco's grandiose varial site had no place in democratic spain. this is d.w. news from berlin. the world. of turkey has put us in a terrible situation that's what the u.s. secretary of defense said today at nato headquarters in brussels the question on everyone's minds what to do about turkey and the kurds what to do about turkey and the russians russian troops will soon patrol syria's northern border making turkey yet another nato member with musk ale's military muscle just an arm's length away i'm bored golf in berlin this is the day. look up and very candid about this turkey put us all in a very terrible situation the direction of turkey with regard the alliance is heading in the wrong direction. on any number of issues we see them spinning closer to russia's orbit there is a new situation in terms of explaining ourselves and being understood remotely as we see differences when the comes to the situation in northeast serial i think in prison early on that was fixated on making this incursion now to them we share the values and missions of nato we completely abide by nato his concept of defense at the moment we. also coming up at 39 chinese men and women found dead in the back of a truck outside of london police suspect human traffickers are to blame tonight you'll hear from a man whose life was once in the hands of traffickers he was lucky he lived to tell about the traffic is all ripping that game in scenes of how they're actually accessing getting into vehicles and bringing my migrants 3 you know the trafficking there was simply not enough being done in terms of security. and so you our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with nato and it's turkish dislike in the past 2 weeks turkey has invaded another country faced sanctions from the u.s. as a result and then pulled itself back by agreeing to share power at its border with syria with the russian military now this is not how a member of nato was supposed to act when no one at nato headquarters put it that directly to day but it's safe to say many were thinking it turkey has put nato in one of the most awkward and volatile situations in the alliances history but turkey's strategic value remains more important and that means native secretary-general yeah. has to handle on her own with the nuance of a diplomat and not the heavy hand of a disciplinary and what about russia its influence in syria is no longer challenged by the u.s. russian troops will soon patrol syria's northern border along with turkish forces putin hands exactly what he wants today nato welcomed an idea from germany calling for russia and turkey to be part of an internationally controlled safe zone in northern syria moscow quickly dismissed that idea saying there's simply no neat. a russian patrol winds its way through the syrian town of commission on the border with turkey only weeks ago u.s. forces patrolled here now the guard has changed. russian forces share control of the border with turkish troops and with the syrian army in a buffer zone that is 30 kilometers deep. fascination summit in brussels secretary-general yan stoltenberg welcomed the arrangement the result of a deal between russian president vladimir putin and his turkish counterpart chip tayyip adult i'm encouraged by the fact that it also had a sphere have seen a significant reduction in violence in fighting and we have to build on that to work for a political solution all the crisis. in syria hundreds have died and peasants have been displaced since turkey launched its attack on the kurds on october 9th. deserted streets some destruction this is a town of rahsaan under turkish control after fierce fighting a cease fire has been declared to allow kurdish troops to pull back but fighting still ferret up on thursday. air to one has not ruled out further military strikes sharing to us you know our soldiers and syrian national army up are trolling the area of operation inch by inch and they are destroying the traps if any of these terrorists come across us there is no natural right to crush them as it is already marked in written documents wheels alucard are used the president also said he would send syrian refugees in turkey to your up. they panic when i say we'll open the gates to just don't panic. well when the time comes the gates can be opened. which is it's a threat he has made before to silence criticism of turkey's offense of the words of a nato member there we'll talk about that i'm joined now by our correspondent in brussels teri schultz terry is covering the nato summit force good evening to you terry so what was it like today when all of the nato defense ministers when they came together was was turkey the black sheep in the room and what about the u.s. was there criticism of what the u.s. did withdrawing its troops from northern syria. well brant i'm told that everyone around the room all the allies did criticize turkey did say that they weren't happy with the turkish with the turkish actions but that's something they've said before they were basically repeating criticism that they've all said as individual governments or across town in their european union had but it didn't go further than that and actually my well i was surprised to hear that there wasn't a lot of heat in the room and in fact the united states has has come out of this quite well a week ago yes we heard criticism that the u.s. had pulled out its 50 soldiers which you know basically kept the turks from staging this incursion earlier we didn't hear that today. germany has proposed internationally administered safe zone in northern syria let's take a listen to how the nato secretary general you don't because he described reaction to the german plan today the german defense minister she she briefed all eyes on her thoughts on the way forward. again i think it is broad support for the over political solution. and also. ways to try to engage the international community to support such a political solution terry i don't think that i heard addressed the russians who have already dismissed this german proposal did he leave them out

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class="nosel"> all russian and soviet dictators, their problem is they always think that they're the last line of defense. you are in power. you have the right to, if you decide, to destroy it so nobody else will get it. the united states doesn't even notice that the soviets are on edge. they didn't even put the soviet reaction into ronald reagan's presidential daily brief. [indistinct radio chatter] [narrator] before andropov can act, the able archer operation wraps up on schedule. [pilot] roger that. [narrator] andropov is finally persuaded that this really was just an exercise. this time. [tim] the united states didn't know to ratchet down the tension when it really mattered. that is an indicator of just the lack of understanding that the united states and the soviet union had of each other. but in a nuclear confrontation, lack of understanding can have catastrophic consequences when adversaries have nuclear weapons pointed at each other and don't understand each other. ♪ every day in every state across the country, our political system is bankrolled by an army of fund-raisers, pulling in millions of dollars a race. sometimes it looks like you might imagine-- knocking on doors, calling every name in the phone book, and emails--so many emails. but for all those little fish throwing $100 to their local race, it's the whales those campaign fund-raisers really need-- powerful, rich individuals and companies. and when they donate $25,000, $100,000, a million dollars, they want a favor...or 10. it should be obvious that's corrupt, but with a wink and a nod, political deals toe the bribery line every single day. and we may never have noticed that if a certain illinois governor hadn't flung back the curtain with an unrepentant ego, a political corruption crime spree, and a set of unprecedented audio recordings that shined a bright light on the inner workings of american political power. ladies and gentlemen, meet rod blagojevich. ♪ ♪ it was early morning, 'cause i used to get up every morning and turn on the 6:00 news, and, you know, like, you're kinda waking up, and then you're like, "well, wait, what?" [helicopter whirring] oh, sh--, they outside of blagojevich's house! they got cameras, they got cars, and then they march him out. and you're like, "that's our governor, joe." breaking news-- the illinois governor, rod blagojevich, charged with plotting to sell barack obama's former senate seat. tapper: remember this guy? he sure hopes you do. governor rod blagojevich went down in a blaze of infamy for one of the largest political corruption scandals of our time. the governor was allegedly trying to sell the illinois senate seat vacated by president-elect obama. in fact, part of the governor's sales pitch was that the seat still had that new obama smell. [audience laughter] appointing someone to the senate is a rare opportunity when the will of the people is swapped wholesale for a gubernatorial power trip. blagojevich had the sole authority to place whomever he wanted straight into the halls of the u.s. senate, and he was not shy about wanting a little something in return. with the fbi recording his phone calls, for the first time since nixon, the public was able to listen in on raw backroom politics, and there's nothing quite like hearing it from the horse's mouth. reporter: the criminal complaint quotes blagojevich as saying the senate seat "was a valuable thing. you just don't give it away for nothing." another quote-- "i've got this thing, and it's bleeping golden." [blagojevich speaking] "i've got this thing, and it's [bleep] golden." -yeah. -[audience laughter] "and i'm not just giving it up for [bleep] nothing." [laughter] was there a second [bleep] in there? tapper: racking up a staggering 24 criminal charges, governor blagojevich's actions essentially boiled down to four things-- extortion, bribery, corruption, and wire fraud. and it wasn't just about the senate seat. blagojevich was also found guilty of extorting a children's hospital. you can't write this stuff. he's an arrogant punk who thinks that, you know, he's bulletproof. well, he's not. he was convicted on 18 total charges and sentenced to 14 years, the longest sentence ever handed down to a governor. people loathed blagojevich for the way he politicked, but was what he did so blatantly criminal? 'cause the truth is that the line between what's illegal and what's allowable is much murkier than we'd like to think, and this is where the rod blagojevich story gets interesting. let me reassert to all of you once more that i am not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing. [camera shutter clicks] was rod a corrupt politician or just a politician operating in a corrupt system that still thrives to this day? so, governor, thanks for doing this. thank you. so you've been out of prison now for almost two years. a little over two years. and you're still very outspoken about how you feel like the case against you was unjust. there isn't really an argument about what you said. -right. -it's on tape. right. the question is whether it was illegal and whether it was morally wrong. look, if you're saying, "do we have a fund-raising system in america that you can arguing is legalized bribery?" i think there's truth to that. but did i do anything other than that standard that every other person in politics does, from president biden on down? i did the same as them and nothing worse. there is this real problem in american politics today where prosecutors are weaponizing themselves, criminalizing routine illegal practices in government politics, and i think it's wrong when they do it to bill clinton. it's wrong, i think, when they did it to president trump 'cause i have strong views on that, and i know it was wrong when they did it to me. okay, lot to unpack there. let's talk about the chicago and illinois system, because you're hardly the first governor in history, even in recent history, to--to go to prison. what's the situation here that causes this to happen? well, i think it's time-honored here, and there's a long history in chicago politics, illinois politics, where pretty much everybody gets rich. ah, chicago politics. it's like going to a pay pond when you go fishing. like, if you are a prosecutor, you cannot be in illinois and not get something. illinois is steeped in a rich history of political corruption that dates back a century to the prohibition era, when bootlegging gangsters such as al capone bought off politicians and police departments, keeping them drunk on power and...also just drunk. in rod's lifetime, illinois has developed a rap sheet that any mobster would be proud of-- more than 1,700 convictions for corruption, including nearly 30 chicago aldermen, eight stage legislators, two u.s. congressmen, and before rod came onto the scene, three governors. in an odd way, the very people who should hate the idea of corruption are kind of proud that this is al capone's illinois. chicago is a wink and a nod town. -it's a shot and a beer town. -[clink] lot of it has to do with family relationships, because a lot of the political leadership in chicago and illinois are family-related. there's the daley family, the madigans. all of these families sort of become part of this mafia. -yeah. -a political mafia, and they're the ones who make the rules. i didn't come from that. i had to marry into it. i met a girl on the 6th of march, 1988. she was wearing a red dress, and she happened to be the daughter of an old-fashioned chicago political war boss. and she's my wife patti. we fell in love. patti blagojevich is a loyal wife, she is a tough customer, and she's the daughter of dick mell. she's complicated. that budding relationship between those two is how rod goes from this nobody politically, finding a way to kind of imbed himself into one of these big political families in chicago. they have so much power. i don't think it was, you know, some great surprise that, like, you know, when it comes time to meet the parents, that dick mell was the father-in-law and the--the powerful city council chieftain. we're gonna try to work together to put this great city back together so that we're all part of it and we all feel free. dick mell was a guy who always had the voice in the backrooms. he was a power broker in that kind of chicago classic sense. before politics, it was a nice relationship, but for the most part, respectful. and then because i was in the family, and i was actually pretty good at helping her dad, local politics, knocking on doors and trying to get him votes, there was an opportunity to run for office. in rod blagojevich, mell could see a guy that eventually, if he does it right, "i could sort of pass the mantle toward." rod was an immediate hit with illinois voters, who sent him first to the state house in 1992 and then to the u.s. congress in 1996. dick mell says, "i can see you being governor." and i gotta be honest, i'm sure if i'm looking at it from dick mell's position, he's saying, "man, if i can elect this guy governor, i can run the whole state." reporter: the campaign for illinois governor has gotten pretty lively. you've got chicago congressman rod blagojevich. what's that name again? -bala-jo-vich. -reporter: bala-jo-vich, huh? -bala-jo-vich. -you sure? positive. tapper: during rod's 2002 governor's campaign, dick mell's membership in the old school chicago elite was a definite bonus, but it was rod's working class bonafides and people skills that did all the rest. coming from the family he did, he had a real working class chip on his shoulder, and his two heroes were elvis and richard nixon, both because they were guys who came from the wrong side of their tracks and fought their way up and were kind of disdained by the elites. in fact, if those two gritty 20th century icons fought their way into a single person, you might actually end up with rod blagojevich, for better and for worse. the rod blagojevich that i first met was youthful. he was energetic. he had this kind of mane of black hair that was super thick, and you could tell it was filled with hair product. the hair-- so iconic in its own right, that it became a comedy staple on every late night show. -the hair. -the hair. really, it looks like you're wearing a toupée that's also wearing a toupée. [audience laughter] he had a huge infatuation with elvis presley. ♪ his charisma was disarming. [cheers and applause] [amplified voice] thank you. thank you very much. [cheers, whistles, and applause] but the elvis of illinois was itching to lose his colonel parker, because despite the many benefits of dick mell's patronage, rod was still in his shadow. you know, he really became known as dick mell's son-in-law first. and i know he hated that. he didn't know how to both be his own man and not let dick mell foreshadow him. the only way for rod to survive outside of his father-in-law's machine was to create his own cash flow. so his first step was to hire two of chicago's most bare-knuckled political fund-raisers, chris kelly and tony rezko. chris kelly and tony rezko could generate big bucks. they were fund-raisers. they were donors. you know, let's just call 'em what they were. they were influence peddlers. they wound up being able to shake the bushes here and help rod raise money. they promised access and favors if blagojevich won, and they got results. where dick mell's good old boys would fetch $2,000 at a time, kelly and rezko would shake loose 50 grand. all that money plus rod's appeal to voters who had felt ignored by the entrenched chicago political dynasties-- well, it proved to be an unstoppable combination. he ran on some things that were uniquely important to black people. healthcare for kids is a good idea. when he said, "free rides for seniors on public transportation," that resonated with black people specifically. blagojevich became governor in 2003. -congratulations, governor. -thank you. may god bless you. [cheers and applause] how do you view your-- your time as governor apart from the scandals? how do i say this in a way where i don't sound like a guy without any humility? but i truly believe i was a great governor. i can't think of any governor in my life that did anything for anybody i knew that can walk around and say, "you know what? thank you, governor. my daughter had healthcare through you." free public transportation for seniors and the disabled? i did that 'cause they raised the sales tax, which hurts working people and poor people and seniors. with the legislature raising taxes that hit lower-income illinoisans hardest, and rod striking back with policies to offset that, it's no surprise that his populist agenda made him a lot of enemies amongst the big political families. to the people and the masses, he was on our team, and to the aristocracy and to the political elites, he was this guy that was taking their resources and giving 'em to the peasants, and so he became robin hood. i knew the reality that i'm gonna have resistance from the old guard, the old ward bosses, the madigans, daley to some extent, my father-in-law, and so the goal was raise money now and raise a lot of it so that you can afford to make enemies, and you can afford to lose support. right, but some of these people that you were-- that you were relying on like chris kelly were--were corrupt. -right? -turned out that chris had problems in his own personal business, and he was found guilty of those things. had nothing to do with me. but, like, a lot of the people in the world of fund-raising are not necessarily... -they are not. -...upstanding individuals. -no, they're not. -yeah. -no, they're not. what's the saying? "ignorance is not a defense"? tony rezco and chris kelly-- they started compiling this list of different entities that were state contractors, and they hit all those people up for money, probably with rod's assistance. "hey, you got a contract? you wanna keep it? or you want to get more? you gotta pony up." a lot of people in play have scalpel-like tendencies when they fund-raise, and rod was probably more of a meat cleaver. [beeping] -[telephone rings] -kelly and rezco were using government levers to squeeze anyone they could for a campaign contribution-- kickbacks like a cushy job or a fat contract, a little light extortion such as holding up teachers' funds. they had deep pockets to fill and a financial machine to do it. you can't trade official actions as a governor in exchange for campaign contributions or jobs. i mean, there is one simple word for that. it's called graft. graft is simply the use of political power and authority in exchange for personal gain. to state the obvious, appointing unqualified people to state positions because you wanna use the government as a vending machine for your political campaign-- that's completely illegal. the m.o. was to make money from every state petitioner possible, and small-town hospital ceo pam davis looked like just another easy mark. but in this case, the whole shakedown process is recorded by the hospital executive who was getting shaken down. [laughs] woman: he needs to reset your wire. [laughs] oh, god, another wire. sorry for, uh... -i don't care. -just in here. uh, the governor really wasn't on my radar, um, at all until i experienced an extortion attempt through one of his, um, colleagues. pam's hospital system wanted to build a new facility in plainfield, illinois. seems pretty straightforward, but there were red flags right away when she went to get government approval for the project. davis: in my case, the governor had appointed individuals to this board who had either contributed money to his campaign, so they bought their way on, or individuals that were controlled by the governor and other individuals and would approve only those projects where a kickback was going to be given. turns out the board was willing to approve the hospital. all she had to do was use builders and lenders who were in their pocket and pad the contract so the board could take... let's call it a transaction fee for their trouble. it became clear to me that this was a major extortion attempt, and i was furious. so i called the fbi. the feds set her up with a wire so they could listen in on her meetings with board members and get the dirt straight from the source. she'd be meeting with these players, and they would be basically laying out the whole scheme to her. davis: the contract would be padded, um, by roughly $10 million so that that money would go then to the various players. at one point, i decided, i wonder if this goes up to the governor, because the governor appoints these individuals to the various boards. the feds were wondering the same thing, and over the course of their investigation, their suspicions proved to be spot on. out of the public eye, rod's fund-raising goons, chris kelly and tony rezko, felt safe to strong-arm money from donors across illinois. but unbeknownst to them, the fbi was following their every move as part of a far-reaching corruption investigation into the blagojevich administration. as the money rolled in, their role in rod's administration only grew, which had his father-in-law, dick mell, feeling as though he'd been served divorce papers. as dick mell famously said, he got replaced by a trophy wife or trophy wives. those were the people who were getting the love that he should have gotten and wasn't getting. we all know that you got here because of dick mell. rod says, "i got my own team, and so don't talk to dick mell." not only does he not do what you wanna do, but he said, "don't talk to my boss. i'm the boss now." well, dick mell ain't feeling that, and dick mell is not the type to be like, "so, may i talk to you privately?" mell wears his heart on his sleeve, his anger on his sleeve. ...leave me out! he can love you today, and if he starts hating you tomorrow, he can, you know, pull the switch just like that. and mell becomes more and more resentful of being cast aside, and so that fueled this tension in that family to the point where it eventually exploded. [explosion] that explosion came in 2005, and though it may not have aired on reality tv, it was still inextricably linked to garbage. rod blagojevich closed down this landfill which dick mell was a part owner of. rod said that this was for environmental issues. tapper: what did he want you to do? leave it alone, and i had learned that it was operating in violation of the environmental laws. i had knowledge of that. uh, ultimately, i decided i had a duty, that i had to shut it down, and then he made some accusations that really unleashed the furies. dick mell called a press conference and basically accused rod blagojevich of selling board and commission seats within state government. reporter: mell has had a falling out with his son-in-law, the governor. this is a family at war. ♪ so your father-in-law, dick mell, accused chris kelly of selling political favors for campaign contributions of $25,000 to $50,000 at a time. tell me about where were you when you heard that he was leveling this accusation. i remember vividly. it was early january of 2005, and this was the consequence of me shutting down his landfill. the very next day, he called a press conference, and he was clever enough to accuse chris kelly, not directly me, but that's me. i don't think he envisioned that it would turn into something that would ultimately land me in prison, but i know he did this to hurt me politically and cause me problems with the fbi. tapper: mel's allegations backed rod into a corner, giving the fbi room to prosecute his inner circle, until in 2008, the feds secured a secret wiretap on the governor himself. feeling the squeeze, rod started looking for some kind of escape route, and then a golden opportunity landed right in his lap. at this defining moment, change has come to america. [cheers and applause] now that senator barack obama is president-elect barack obama, someone will have to take over his senate seat. this is the governor's decision. uh, it is not my decision. the criteria that i would have for my successor would be the same criteria that i'd have if i were a voter. senator obama becomes president obama. he resigns his senate seat. according to the law here in illinois, you as the governor get to name his replacement. now you're excited about this, and you say on tape, "i'd like to get the [bleep] out of here," and you're talking about options for yourself. does that mean, "i'd like to get the [bleep] out of here," you were sick of being governor? that's absolutely the things i was saying, of course, and i was looking at all kinds of options. so he attempted to trade obama's seat for a golden parachute. he begins to be heavily courted by all sorts of people who would love to be that u.s. senator. they saw something really valuable here-- a very valuable bargaining chip that could elevate his power in some way or-- or benefit them monetarily. when i said i wanted to get the eff out of here, it's because the fbi people and my persecutors were all over me, and it's the sort of thing, when that stuff's swirling around you, you know that stuff's swirling around you. -right. -and it's there. it's everywhere, and it-- and it was just very clear to me that they were determined to get me no matter what. i guess one question i have is knowing that they were looking at you, why did you talk about this stuff that way? look, i had 2,896 days in prison to ask myself a thousand questions, including that. but you know what? what's the alternative? i have all my staff and lawyers. we all go to saunas and get naked and talk to each other so nobody's got wires on 'em? -no, or-- -what's the alternative? or you just don't say anything, or you just say, like, "this seat is very important, and we wanna make sure the best person gets it. and separately, i am thinking that i'd like to not be governor of illinois anymore." well said. i don't make a habit of telling politicians how to avoid jail time, but here's the thing. being more cautious could have gotten rod everything he wanted and kept him out of prison, but caution is not really in rod's dna. [blagojevich speaking] [line disconnects] ♪ jackson: you know they taping you, so you can't say that out loud, right? breaking news-- the illinois governor charged with plotting to sell barack obama's former senate seat. reporter: illinois rod blagojevich was arrested tuesday morning by federal authorities and charged with corruption. dude. dude! dude. you know they trying to get you, dawg. but why? why? reporter: the day after being arrested on corruption charges, illinois governor rod blagojevich walked out of his house and headed back to work. -[camera shutter clicks] -tapper: all in all, rod blagojevich was facing 24 charges connected to four specific events-- the attempted sale of obama's senate seat, withholding legislation that would benefit a children's hospital and racetrack in an attempt to get political contributions, and the attempted extortion of a highway contractor. [amplified voice, chanting] 2, 3, 4, blago must go! i personally think he should at least step aside if not resign. my husband is an honest man, and i know that he's innocent. jackson: he thought that he had the moral high ground. i don't believe there's any cloud that hangs over me. -man: governor, governor-- -well, getting back to that, can we discuss your-- i think there's nothing but sunshine hanging over me. he didn't show any of the humility or anything. you just can't stick your finger in the eye of the federal government. let me reassert to all of you once more that i am not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing, that i'm confident that at the end of the day, i will be, uh, properly, uh, exonerated. [reporters speaking at once] i represented rod blagojevich in two of his criminal trials. i mean, he wanted to fight his case. he believed he was innocent, and he was working to that end to try and prove his innocence. anyone who believes that this was a selling of some senate seat doesn't understand politics. every single day in politics, that is what happens, is this horse-trading. and if you really listen to this in context, what you heard was talking with various people, getting annoyed, talking about nonsense, and then the end. nothing really that was ever acted on. later, rod blagojevich's lawyers would argue that what rod did specifically with the senate seat was no worse than when president eisenhower appointed earl warren as chief justice of the supreme court. back in 1952, dwight eisenhower's about to win the nomination to become the republican president. earl warren, the governor of california, is withholding the delegation's votes. governor warren tells eisenhower, "i'll deliver the delegation for you on one condition. i wanna be the next chief justice of the supreme court." ike, the great war hero, shakes hands, says, "you got a deal." he wins. one year later, earl warren is the chief justice of the united states supreme court. rod wanted a political appointment from obama, and for that, he was prepared to trade obama's old senate seat, which is actually legal. otherwise, eisenhower would have gone to jail, and americans would not have "liked ike." do you see yourself as somebody who was just trying to function in perhaps an inherently corrupt but legal system, and that theoretically almost any politician could be snagged the way you were? absolutely. of course i do, except i'm giving me higher marks. because i was using that money that--that-- and that power gave me to fight an established system that served itself on the backs of the people, and when you do that, you piss a lot of people off, and they wanna get rid of you. but do you think that you're earthier about it? like, more outspoken about it? well, i wasn't hiding any of it, but these--because it's legal, and that's how you govern. abraham lincoln was able to get the 13th amendment passed at congress, which ratified the emancipation proclamation, freeing slaves. he had to make political deals with members of congress to get the votes to pass it. -that's how you get things done. -you're not comparing yourself to abraham lincoln. -by no means. -okay. -and please say that. i'm not comparing myself to abraham lincoln. you're not-- or the emancipation proclamation. okay, right. he's a lot taller than me, and i never did anything as great as that, of course not. -but you're also not talking about the--i mean, the emancipation proclamation-- of course i'm not. governor blagojevich tried to sell the appointment to the senate seat vacated by president-elect obama. the conduct would make lincoln roll over in his grave. you're very critical of pat fitzgerald. yeah, he's an evil guy. he's a wicked guy. he's a scoundrel, and he deserves to get an ass kicking. you know? and he's a big coward. anyway, go ahead. sorry. well, i think he would take issue with everything you just said. you know, he has a reputation for being the choirboy, for being, you know, an upstanding, moral person. he sees himself as, "i am trying to uphold some basic standards for our politicians." that's how he views it. governor blagojevich has been arrested in the middle of what we can only describe as a political corruption crime spree. we had a political and public narrative that we had to overcome, and when the entire potential jury pool believes that your client is guilty before they've even heard the evidence, you're going into the trial like if it's a basketball game, you're losing 100 to nothing. or it's like if you're a governor, and you're getting impeached 114 to 1, and the lone vote in rod's favor-- his sister-in-law, deb mell. done from office and eager to prove he was not a crook, rod knew exactly where to plead his case. please welcome to the program governor rod blagojevich! [applause] you are a charming dude with the best set of hair i've ever [bleep] seen. [audience laughter] so i want this to be real. got some challenges ahead, but, uh, i'm gonna trust in the truth and as it says in the bible, "the truth shall set you free." rod blagojevich just...kept...talking. how are you? you wanna get on tv? come on in. i think he was able to warm himself a little bit with the public. better to be seen as a klutz than a crook. sure, everyone loves a good laugh, but oversaturating the talk show circuit may have had unintended consequences, as david letterman told rod when he appeared on the "late show" in 2009. the more you talked and the more you repeated your innocence, the more i said to myself, "oh, this guy's guilty." [laughter] so during the period from your impeachment to your trial and your sentencing, you did a lot of media appearances. what was the strategy behind that? my feeling was like, "look, i didn't do any of that stuff," and what does somebody do who's being lied about? but you have a tremendous desire to get out at the highest mountain and yell out, "i didn't do it." well, letterman said that the louder you yelled it, the more it made him think you were guilty. yeah. yeah, i mean, i didn't-- i didn't convince him, but, uh, i think i convinced donald trump. that's why i got invited on "celebrity apprentice," right? i have great respect for your tenacity, for the fact that you just don't give up. but, rod...you're fired. ♪ what i saw over the course of rod's career was a guy who started off as kind of a charming rogue and a guy who really did give voice to concerns that people had to someone who became almost a parody of himself. and by the time that trial came around, he really was his own worst enemy. see you in court. he thought that the court of public opinion could save him, but he had disturbed forces that decided, "it was a wrap for you, dude." don't poke the feds, fam. just don't do it. man: blago, can i get your autograph? reporter: at verdict today, in a notorious case that federal prosecutors did not want to hear, rod blagojevich was convicted today on only one count. -see you guys! -man: way to go, baby! tapper: the jury was hung on all but one of the charges against blagojevich, and without unanimous consent, the result was a mistrial on the remaining 23 charges. the jury, like a lot of people to this day, just could not agree on whether what he'd done was actually illegal. in that first trial, the jury deadlocked on everything except for lying to the fbi. -right. you were convicted of lying to the fbi. -right. -do you acknowledge that you lied to the fbi? -no. no. i don't. i'll tell you about that. it was about how much of your associates that were fund-raising for you, the degree to which you knew what you were doing. yeah, it was-- the issue was i said, i didn't, as a practice, track fund-raising. and who got contracts? i didn't. i didn't look into who got contracts. i wasn't interested in that. i had 27,000 contributors. i wasn't tracking who gave me money, who got what. the first trial was too confusing for the jury, and they had a lot of paper documents. it was a lot of witness testimony. man: governor, are you anxious for this to begin? i feel great. absolutely. what the government did in the second trial is they pared down their--their case, and they believed that everything was in the tapes and they needed to make this trial a lot simpler. [blagojevich speaking] he was swearing a lot... ...and upset and not appreciative of the position that he had. and i think that was more influential in the jury's decision than-- than anything. it made him look bad. breaking news right now-- the jury has reached a decision, convicting blagojevich on 17 counts of corruption. -reporter: wire fraud. -bribery. blitzer: attempted extortion. solicitation of a bribe. blitzer: racketeering. conspiracy to commit bribery and conspiracy to commit extortion. rod blagojevich was convicted on almost all counts and sentenced to 14 years. patti and i are obviously very disappointed, uh, in the outcome. i, frankly, am--am stunned. when did you realize, "oh, shit, i might actually be going to prison"? -from the beginning. -really? -i knew i was a dead man. -really? -yeah. -why? 'cause they have so much power and resources, and i, you know, wasn't really surprised when i got 14 years. the justification for the judge was, "you treated this like a golden glove boxing match," but those corrupt liars are lucky dueling is outlawed, 'cause i'd have challenged them to a duel. rapists and murderers get so much less time? that's why this system is so wrong and so broken. let me offer you an alternate theory. sure. my alternate theory is that the entire system of justice that we have in this country depends on prosecutors and police who are incentivized to get convictions. -mm-hmm. -period. what do you think of that? well, i think you're almost right. [laughs] i never took a penny. no one says i did. i keep saying that 'cause that's so important to me. i don't want people to think that i was some-- one of these corrupt politicians that was taking cash. tapper: but remember, even though he never actually got that envelope full of money, that was because the feds closed in before the senate deal was done. the offers being considered, campaign contributions or a lucrative job in a nonprofit, the fact of accepting them-- that would have been simply illegal, hence, the charge of conspiracy to commit bribery, which he was definitely guilty of. rod's argument is no cash changed hands, but prior to that, there had been plenty of money changing hands. there's ample evidence these government positions, these government contracts-- they were effectively for sale. it does not matter if rod blagojevich actually won the argument and got the money or the donations he was seeking. it's the ask. if something goofs it up, but the burglary or robbery's interrupted, it doesn't make it less of an intended burglary or robbery, right? he had his day in court. that 14 years was what the system gave him. so you went to prison for almost eight years? 2,896 days. and let me tell ya what gets you through prison when you have to face something like that. it's love and it's faith-- love for my daughters and my wife. you know, when i was arrested, within days, the vegas oddsmakers had it 9 to 1 that she was leaving. so in that sense, i've been so lucky and blessed. after he was sent to prison, patti proclaimed his innocence, and she did try and go to any leader that she could find to have him either pardoned or commuted. and when all else failed, patti blagojevich knew exactly who to appeal to next. after rod goes to prison, patti was essential in keeping their life together. more than anything else, maybe, she got in donald trump's ear. trump had a connection with blagojevich 'cause rod was on "the apprentice," and patti blagojevich was on fox news every day. you know, we know that president trump is a kind man, and he's compassionate. he's always been kind to my family. and when you speak on fox news, you have a direct connection with donald trump. today the president sprung from prison former illinois governor rod blagojevich, who was convicted after attempting his own quid pro quo. yes, uh, we have commuted the sentence of rod. i watched his wife on television. quote, um, "i watched his wife on television..." -yes. -end quote. how did--how did that happen? i think he just saw--he-- he would tell me he liked the fact that i was fighting back. i remember him saying something like, uh, "you know, i have friends that go through what you're going through, and they're in a corner. they can't even move, and you're out there throwing punches." i think he liked that. i'm so grateful to him. sometimes things happen in life where god intervenes in the most unbelievable ways. trump, blagojevich, fox news? i'm not sure how much god played a role in any of this. when rod came home from prison after eight years, his daughters had grown up. how are your relationships with them? they're good. i'm-- i'm getting to know them. our family was broken for a long time. the difficulties that i talked about with my father-in-law, those were heartbreaking, because in spite of everything, i love him, and he's been good to me in so many ways. and, uh, you know, it's been a tough road for my wife. our lives could have been so much simpler, so much better. understandably, rod looks back on the time away from his family with regret, not for what he did, of course, but that he was sent to prison in the first place. but what else would you expect from rod? i am a political prisoner. i was put in prison for practicing politics. wait a minute. you're a political prisoner? nelson mandela was a political prisoner. political prisoners have no due process. i was thrown in prison and spent nearly eight years in prison for practicing politics, for seeking campaign contributions without a quid pro quo. you do have an obligation to at least admit what you did wrong, and you refuse to do that, and you're creating a whole new alternate universe of facts, and that may be big in politics today, but it's still, frankly, just bullshit. a reporter, uh, asked you if you wanted to say sorry to the people of illinois, and you said, "sorry for what?" -do you still feel that way? -very much so. i've done a lot wrong. criminal? none. you and your defenders argue that the persecution, prosecution of you is about the criminalization of politics. in other words, there is horse-trading that goes on in politics. "you do me this favor. i'll do you this favor," and that's all you were doing, and that it's legal, but they made it out to be illegal. well, first of all, it's not illegal. now you can argue whether we should improve our laws. that's a valid thing. i would think there's a lot of room to improve the fund-raising laws, but that's not illegal at all, and it's a common practice. now ultimately, after i've been in prison for four years, the appellate court reverses that big lie of the sale of the senate seat, and they said it's routine political logrolling. and look, that's partially true. the court did vacate the conviction related to obama's senate seat, but they never said he did nothing wrong. the court said there was a jury instruction issue, and they upheld the remaining 13 counts. so contrary to his claim, he has not been exonerated. and for the love of elvis, we can only hope that rod's crimes are not routine. if there is a big lie, it's that he's a victim, especially since every other charge was upheld, including the extortion of a children's hospital. gandhi, he ain't. this isn't some sort of mystery, that, "gosh, i didn't know. i had no idea. it's so gray." really? i think most of us have some gut sense of when we're beginning to get in trouble. i don't believe blagojevich has ever done any reflection on right and wrong. extorting a hospital-- never occurred to him that that might harm the citizens that he was elected to protect. he--he has no ability to look at anything but himself. that's it. that's it. what's the worst thing that can be said about you that's accurate in your view, other than you were stupid to say that stuff? sure. look, i've been accused of being a narcissist. i might plead to a misdemeanor on that, okay? um, i think i-- my judgment of some people was way off. i think i should have been a lot more vigilant and see some of the warning signs. i knew they were aggressively out there raising money, and i didn't slow it down because i wanted to raise the campaign money. i could have been more vigilant on that in retrospect. ♪ close, but no cigar. whether or not rod trusted the wrong people, he set them loose on illinois because they brought him the most money. whether the rules on political fund-raising are flimsy guardrails at best,

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will: i am okay. it is a little bit like is that. rachel: i feel like we are on peter hegseth now. i love it. pete: i don't want to hear myself talk. rachel: i hope the book is going well. rachel: i saw my dad reading your book. he loves it. will: you still have your chance to buy that. to the news starting now. we are waiting the arrival of president biden and the first lady in paris where president emmanuel macron post them for a state visit. they will make a statement in a few hours but won't take questions. rachel: this as the white house denies the two reportedly butting heads over assistance for ukraine. >> reporter: a few blocks from where we are standing, this parade is getting underway, biden being hosted by president emmanuel macron even though they had big disagreements including on things like trade where macro thinks the biden trade policy is too pro usn on ukraine because emmanuel macron does not want nato to rule out sending nato troops to ukraine at some point to fight russia. white house officials tell us it is all good. >> they have a warm and close relationship. people are focused on areas they may not agree on everything rather than focusing on the strength of this relationship but >> reporter: something president biden will do is open the checkbook. he told volodymyr zelenskyy there's $225 million on the way in the military aid, that's a drop in the bucket my 50 one billion dollars and military assistance and on the world stage president biden wanted to make sure everybody knows the new nine figure munitions package have come sooner if not for republicans back home. >> president biden: i'm not going to walk away from you. i apologize for weeks of not knowing what was going to happen in terms of funding because we had trouble getting the bill we had to pass, had the money in it, members were concerned with holding it up. we got it done finally. >> reporter: we expect to see president biden and president emmanuel macron taking questions later. making statements later. white house officials are saying under no circumstances will the two of them be taking questions. we expect a state dinner later on that president biden will attend with the first lady, jill biden. she was here on thursday and flew back to wilmington, delaware to sit in the gallery for her son's trial before flying all the way back to paris. >> how does the first lady travel back and forth across the atlantic, is that on air force one? on the public time? how does she fly back and forth? >> reporter: her plane is called executive foxtrot one but it is an air force aircraft with air force pilots so it is not like she's hopping on the red eye on air france $2 to meet some suburbans there. this is a taxpayer-funded back-and-forth. rachel: would want to miss a party so she had to rush back. if while they are in france, his any discussion been had about weapons being launched into russia. it appears to be a new stage of this conflict that is pretty reckless. >> reporter: there's been a little bit of talk about that. president biden saying the ukrainians are only going to be allowed to attack places the russians are using in russia to attack them. they insist even though they will be striking inside russia with these us weapons it is not an offensive operation. they consider that defensive operation but when getting that close, that is how close they are 2 escalating fingers it. pete: thanks for breaking it down. is exactly right. where were we at the beginning of this conflict, what they said would not happen. you heard peter doocy mention the idea there are discussions about nato troops on the ground. if vladimir putin wasn't correct about the desire of nato to surround and we are making sure to fulfill that. neil: plan report and responded because of what you've done, usa, we are going to provide long-range weapons to your enemies. they are considering that. we are escalating it not just there in this conflict in russia and ukraine on that quarter but potentially in other areas. we have enemies all over the world and this is very troubling. will: we heard there might be small levels between the united states and france over france's more. written tone or commitment to ukraine. as of the end of 2023, france has given 3 billion to ukraine. the united states has given 51. rachel: they feel so comfortable, why aren't you supporting us and getting nato troops, they have such a cocky attitude with us and they are not doing anything. they are not giving any money or putting skin in the game. pete: president biden felt the need to issue an apology, here is vivek ramaswamy on that. >> if you wants to imitate reagan peace through strength is different from peace through frailty and weakness which is where biden is exhibiting today. the reality is we are forking over more money to ukraine then we have accounting for how it has been spent in the first place. this is the problem with american culture under the leadership of biden in the democrats we are taught to apologize for who we are both at home and the global stage to flog ourselves for helping the countries we are helping. enough of that. we are done with this culture of apologist him. pete: they work very hard to almost completely rekey create what reagan did 40 years ago, catch a little bit of the magic of that famous speech. we are going to go off the wall on biden's failed recreation of biden's normally the -- the biden team was as concerned about the pathway from his vehicle to the stage to make sure he was going to make it as they are about the speech, that's the challenge they are facing, trying to carefully curate what their candidate is saying. rachel: trying to re-create a republican moment. however lichen has aged in terms of speech and impact on the world and history. interesting to see a democrat try to do that. will: the judge published letters saying the court became aware of our comment posted on the unified court system's public facebook page which i will now bring to your attention. my cousin says trump is getting convicted. thank you, folks, for all your hard work. the judge alerting the court this posting was made to facebook. there is some legitimate questions about legitimacy, whether or not this was truly the cousin of some juror about the fact that it has been acknowledged by the court is quite a statement and a serious potential development. pete: we were prepping for the show when this came out and when you look at the letter, how big a deal is this? for him to put out a letter publicly stating that this comment but it all looks like the comment was made on a post that wasn't pertaining to the trial. there were other comments the poster made that sounded like that. is that a scammer, is it real? but room to put a letter out you would think they did some of the pulmonary work to identify that but that is not yet clear. don't want to get ahead of what this means. could have just been this is something we have to put out just in case, let's see how it sources out. at this point we don't know how significant this is. rachel: greg jarrett had this to say about what would happen if it turns out to be true. >> if it is true, that's a big if but if it is true, it is grounds to vacate the conviction and order a new trial. what this judge needs to do is appoint an independent, impartial officer of the court to does contract and investigation that may include subpoenaing facebook to identify who this person is who posted it because the message indicates that a juror spoke with a relative about the case. jurors are admonished at the outset of the trial you are not allowed to talk to your wife, your spouse, anybody, about this case. that taints the impartiality of the juror, and outside influence potentially. not only that. it also suggests that perhaps before deliberations even began, the jurors had already decided to convict. if there's merit to it that case gets tossed, a new trial is ordered. rachel: half the fbi has been deployed to find january 6th to identify from. i don't know why at this point we still, it's pretty easy to find this person and if this did happen it would be a case of election interference. will: the jury was never sequestered was a whole week before it came out, like swiss cheese. what an appeal would be but it was never about appeal. it was about getting forward as fast as possible. will: whether it is true it lends to the seriousness that you take it in the beginning. rachel: millions are hitting the beach but may be at risk if they get into the water. pete: sharks are back, there have been several shark attacks in florida and one in texas. >> reporter: the sheriff calling back to back shark attacks yesterday exceedingly rare. two teenagers and one woman were rushed to the hospital in two separate incidents taking place in waist deep water about four miles apart within the span of an hour and 1/2. 45-year-old woman lost her arm in the first attack and is in critical condition at a nearby trauma hospital. two teenage girls were attacked, one remains in critical condition and one in stable condition. >> something that is important is to understand the continuity of care, that's a seamless operation between the folks at southpoint fire district, the deputies in walton county, the sheriffs office and rescue. everybody did their role professionally and these two ladies have a fighting chance because of the way we interact. >> reporter: these attacks mark the first in florida this year, in texas in 19-year-old woman is recovering after fighting off a 5 foot shark at galveston beach last week. >> as i was turning, a shark grabbed a hold of my hand and i looked down and there was a shark attached to my hands which i'm glad it happened to me and not my siblings and i wasn't too affected by it. >> reporter: law enforcement hasn't specified the type of shark involved but the beaches are close for now. the sheriff says his office is in contact with a shark expert to see if there's an anomaly in these attacks. pete: i'm going to the beach and i will swim extra far out. rachel: you are supposed to punch the shark. pete: what else do you do? the only thing you will do is try to punch. don't know if it is effective. rachel: i heard you punch it in the eyes or something. pete: if you get bit by a shark like that, among the scars and stories, what happened to your arm? obviously there's a level beyond. pete: it is obviously scary. odds are you are going to be all right. pete: they look out for the jellyfish, they are bothersome. will: additional headlines. a family confirming apollo 8 astronaut william anders is dead after his plane crashed off the san juan islands. anders was the only one inside the plane accorded to officials. he had his apollo 8 crew mates were the first people to have traveled to the moon although they did not land on it. he was known for taping this famous photo in space called earthrise. he is survived by his wife and 6 children. she was he was 90 years old. hunter biden's federal gun trial continues monday after prosecutors put their case to rest yesterday. biden's lawyers may call hunter to the stand after prosecutors revealed biden's truck and gun case had remnants of drugs on the. hunter apple the starter naomi testifying she did not see drug paraphernalia and her father's truck when he bought the gun in 2018. the trial is expected to wrap up next week. baseball, new york mets taking on the philadelphia phillies across the pond just after one:00 p.m. today. postings facing off in the third london's series. major league baseball is looking at bringing even more games to europe with another game in 2026 and paris potentially hosting the games. coverage starts at 12:30 eastern time on fox. hall of fame pitcher john smoltz joined us later today with more. pete: why are they taking -- will: i will be interested in what the turnout is for baseball. >> people fly to taylor swift concert so currently tickets are cheaper in europe. i don't know. will: the paralympics are going green but looks like the stars of the show, the athletes aren't very interested in it. pete: janice tina's off ahead of the belmont stakes. will: brian kill me joining us on the couch on the weekend, stay with us. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it's a great product. it's going to help a lot of patients. disrupts my skin, night and day. despite treatment, it's still not under control. but now i have rinvoq. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that reduces the itch and helps clear the rash of eczema—fast. some rinvoq patients felt significant itch relief as early as 2 days. some achieved dramatic skin clearance as early as 2 weeks. and many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal, cancers, including lymphoma and skin; heart attack, stroke, and gi tears occurred. people 50 and older with a heart disease risk factor have an increased risk of death. serious allergic reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. help heal your painful skin— disrupt the itch & rash of eczema. talk to your doctor about rinvoq. learn how abbvie can help you save. norman, bad news... i never graduated from med school. what? 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2030. >> 2030. the bbc has said it is not a question of if but when we can start having a flying for a world, they warned of not being able to get fruits unless they are in season. remember 70 years ago, can't get strawberries when they aren't in season, that's because the advent of modern airline travel you can get what you want to now but because of carbon footprints and net 0 we are taking a complete reversal on all of this. there's a war on air-conditioning, freedom of movement, intentional restriction and rationing of food, energy, transportation and they are getting away with it every day we go forward with the net 0 agenda takes a little more away of our freedom and prosperity. rachel: who could say supporting a 50-year-old man in court is not morally justifiable. so great to have you always. president biden in france this morning arriving for welcome ceremony but isn't expected to questions following his statement with the french president was we are asking get brian kilmeade about his performance on the world stage next. ♪ the smooth writing, longest lasting pilot g2 has long been the hero of gel ink pens. and what hero doesn't have a dark side? 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their state dinner. rachel: they will not be taking any questions. will: let's bring in brian kilmeade. he agreed to be here if we didn't ask questions. brian: i'm afraid of what you will ask. i was trying to bring down ukrainian talking points until the elevator got stuck. thursday, friday, now saturday, a great opportunity with the world watching the, to talk about the need for nato to grow, for us to combine efforts to go against, china, to see the growth of the new axis powers of iran, north korea, russia, and in china. no questions. gives an speeches, have some awkward glances and call it a day. he is exhausted. >> there's probably a lot of things you want to discuss or get done or navigate and you are just not meeting a capable partner. >> reporter: i always say what if this happened under trump. one of the first thing that's happened the first year of president biden, they decided to sell our nuclear submarines to australia. the deal was done with the french selling it, billions of dollars, australians go i would rather buy them from you so we came in and undercut the french. pooled their ambassador. can you imagine if trump did that, that's not how you treat an ally but since that time, although the word is he doesn't like donald trump, they had their ups and downs, tolerated each other, that is the start they got off of an president biden let everybody know. rachel: is the bad what about that move? >> started that way. will: you got out of your yacht on saturday morning and drove into new york city so quickly you couldn't put on a tie, i take her seriously enough that i came in studio but not serious enough for a tie. but the reason you did is you had a big interview for one nation. >> had a chance to talk to the man in charge in terms of global power it is and the other thing is he happens to one of the best friends donald trump has in real life, nothing to do with politics. they've been friends for 30 years. i had a chance to talk to dana white behind the scenes before big event, a huge fight with at the end of this month, the biggest ever, he talked about the trump that he knows and the guy he expects to finish off and when in november. >> you wants to be the next president, stare in more fighters eyes to see what's in there. where does he rank? >> number one, take any of the greatest fighters of all time, trump is number one, the most resilient human being i have ever met in my life. you got money, you got a great life, whatever, why keep doing this, one thing i can tell you and this is a fact, this guy loves this country and he loves all americans regardless of what color, religion or whatever it is, he's not a racist, he's a good human being and he loves america and cares about this country period, end of story. will: dana, it is no secret dana is going to do what dana is going to do, he's not afraid, he will say what he wants to say, he's unique as an individual that way but unique in the world of sports. i cannot imagine any other leader of a sports organization taking a position on trans let alone that. that is all the way. >> he spoke at the rnc and i am doing it and don't do it and doing it and killed it and that's just it. he meets with kings and queens around the world and the middle east, has things going on in japan. he's got a global, opening up facilities in mexico. he literally is a global power. everyone has their fighters. i think it will be an olympic sport soon. the other thing is what is it with these fighters and trump, they hopped out of the octagon to shake his hand, give tributes to him after they win or lose and the bond that they have. >> what about his connection to the fans, fighters wanting, he walks in, fans in the stands. >> joe rogan is the most powerful in the media right now. he did the first 15 for free and now he loves it. he has martial arts background. i think he was on the fence about bernie sanders and by the way he talks, you could hear him on the introduction describing everything, he might be there. >> they are presenting a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier in paris. you hear the sound. one thing that has been edifying to switch gears is to watch the level of appreciation the french seem to still have for what america did 80 years ago. we can talk about the other stuff on the side, you were just there, the way in which they seem to still pass it to the younger generation that americans did something really special. >> their country was taken over. they were occupied by heather. we still weren't in the war and when we came in we came into a buzz saw and had to have the element of surprise to overcome the weather and guess will be saved, millions of french along with the french resistance from the worst person in the modern world, hitler, who was doing nothing but getting revenge on the french. he says if you let me keep friends i won't take any more and the allies said that's not going to be enough and to see people walk into the teeth of gunfire like this, they had six to 8 weeks of training and they were just doing other things, the only thing that was so interesting, you are on our coverage, their objective was, wasn't goes so far, we have to win. that's what they did. we knew we would go home after we won, that's it. >> 80 years later, it is remembered. ♪ rachel: listening to french taps. ♪ o say can you see ♪ ♪ by the dawn's early light ♪ ♪ what so proudly we hailed♪ ♪ at the twilight's last gleaming♪ ♪ whose broad stripes and bright stars ♪ ♪ through the perilous fight ♪ ♪ o'er the ramparts we watched ♪ ♪ were so gallantly streaming ♪ ♪ and the rockets' red glare ♪ ♪ the bombs bursting in air ♪ ♪ gave proof through the night ♪ ♪ that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ o say does that star spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ ♪ and the home of the brave ♪ will: national anthem of the united states of america at the arc they triomphe in paris, france at the tomb of the unknown soldier. french president emmanuel macron, american president joe biden. it is significant they are standing in front of the term of the unknown soldier. i've fallen down the rabbit hole. i was in france the week before the eighth anniversary of d-day, you start studying and watching documentaries and movies, the casualties on d-day were something like 20,000 dead but another 10,000 missing. you know what that means, missing. to the ocean, to the overwhelming firepower. the unknown soldier is a big part of the casualties on d-day in world war ii. >> the one hundred first airborne in the 82nd airborne, they were working against german intelligence which started to get a sense where those drop zones might be and move them. will: they were scattered all over the country. the number of b-52s shot down during that dropped. they all missed the target. they had to rally, scramble that morning to accomplish their objective and make it clear for the guys coming down the beach. rachel: france doing a wonderful job of covering our dead. will: this goes back to the revolution. rachel: they arrive on the scene. a lot of their desire to help us was mounted in their animus toward the british, but we will take it and here we are 80 years ago, when you experience one of those, it's pretty cool. 80 years ago sending our boys over there to liberate their entire country. >> not getting in this until americans prove they can win in the battle of saratoga prove to the french that we are worth it. these guys have a shot. rachel: as the state visit continues, if and when there are moments worthy of coverage we will bring them to you. there is a state dinner but unlikely to be any questions, will not hear in an unscripted sense from emmanuel macron or president biden. great to have you this morning. what time this evening and people view the interview on your program? >> reporter: 9:00 tonight. pete hegseth is going to be on and pete, i won't give it away but you were good, insightful, handle two topics you 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