>> i want to go back to abortion because this is an issue that tripped up republicans in the 2022 midterms. and this is an issue that republican strategists are trying to -- and activists are trying to work with candidates to try to find the right language, never mind the right policy positions. and she punted it. and she said, i'm punting, basically. >> and that's not going to fly with evangelical christians, with the antiabortion movement, which is very powerful still in the republican party. they've been pretty clear. they want candidates who are on that stage, who are running for president on the republican side, to say how many weeks they are willing to support an abortion ban. she refused to say that. she said there was a federal role, but she made point -- and she's probably right about this. there are not 60 votes for federal bans at probably six weeks.
christie, and north dakota governor burgum. which one actually stands a chance of being competitive for the republican nomination of those three. >> there is no question, chris christie is done this before. he's been the governor of a big state, his policy positions are interesting. he doesn't talk trumpy's, which i think actually made him quite a formidable candidate in the general election. the trouble, as he might've able to get through all of the trump enis of the republican in the primaries. but there is no question that christie stands way above the other two. >> what do you, think brendan? >> i do know if i agree. i don't really know who chris christie's constituents is. mike pence at least has the evangelical base, he can legitimately appeal to and he's trying to stake out that lane very clearly, unfortunately, on other issues. so at least he has some obvious constituency. i think chris christie is
so far. president trump with big lead over governor desantis and then pence, nikki haley all in single digits, john, how do pence and chrsitie the race? >> they don't. in a different republican party, you know, 10, 15 years ago this would be a great race. you'd have real conservatives debating, policy positions right now it's between donald trump and ron desantis, one is yelling woke as much as he can and the other is saying i don't like woke and i didn't commit this crime. so like that's -- it's an unfortunate part of where our politics have gone, i would love to see timchris christie debating what policies they want and it's great for democrats and we can sit back and let the fight happen and the more people that get in, better for us. mike: you made reference to the former president, let's play a
support universal health care. he is attacking desantis from the left on social security and medicare and national sales tax which was a big sort of right-wing plan, we are going to get rid of the income tax. it strikes me is that's actually pretty effective step stuff even in a republican primary, i'm curious to what you think the polling shows? >> it goes to show that politics is not always about just voting for a list of policy positions, especially when it comes to trump. people are voting for the vote for who they feel is fighting for them, who cares for them. who would go out and fight for you wants to meet you, want to talk to you, understands, you get to. and a lot of republicans feel that way about trump. it's less about the whitney of policy positions. and that is made some of this very complicated both for democrats and republicans. republicans say hey, conservatism means this, it doesn't mean spending on all
monopoly capital and the owners of the south african economy. you keep on referring to old and old things because you are now beginning to sound like a scratched cd. you have every right to tell me... tell me of me now. ..you have changed. tell me of me now. i've been in parliament for ten years. let's take one particular aspect of your policy positions. yes. do you think aligning yourself with vladimir putin is going to be good for south africa? but that's what it is now. south africa is in alliance with russia, with india, with brazil, with china. so why are you asking me as if it's some policy that is going to be implemented after i took over? south africa is in alliance with russia now. south africa right now calls itself non—aligned. in the context of the war. but these are two different things. south africa is an ally of russia.
to all them old things because you are now beginning to sound like a scratched cd. you have every right to tell me... tell me of me now. ..you have changed. tell me of me now. i've been in parliament for ten years. let's take one particular aspect of your policy positions. yes. do you think aligning yourself with vladimir putin is going to be good for south africa? but that's what it is now. south africa is in alliance with russia, with india, with brazil, with china. so why are you asking me as if it's some policy that is going to be implemented after i took over? south africa is in alliance with russia now. south africa right now calls itself non—aligned. in the context of the war. but these are two different things. south africa is an ally of russia. now, the second question is, where does south africa stand on the war? it says, "i'm non—aligned
similar policy positions but president trump did not get over the finish line with some of his policies and i will. i'm not aware of any sharp differences. maybe -- maybe on deficit. president trump has said he can balance the budget without taking on entitlements. many people would not give that answer. it is hard to do it without tackling mandatory spending. i gave him two chances last night to say he would take on entitlements. he wisely didn't take any chance. >> dana: see you tonight at 8:00 p.m.enter thank you for coming in. >> bill: you got up early for us. >> this is really early for me. >> bill: thanks. check this out. >> there was multiple steps that were slow walked at the direction of the department of justice. >> had you ever encountered that before? >> i have not, no. >> bill: stunning admission from the previously unknown i.r.s.
for ten years. let's take one particular aspect of your policy positions. yes. do you think aligning yourself with vladimir putin is going to be good for south africa? but that's what it is now. south africa is in alliance with russia, with india, with brazil, with china. so why are you asking me as if it's some policy that is going to be implemented after i took over? south africa is in alliance with russia now. south africa right now calls itself non—aligned. in the context of the war. but these are two different things. south africa is an ally of russia. now, the second question is, where does south africa stand on the war? it says, "i'm non—aligned in relation to war, but russia remains south africa's friend." so we cannot create confusion around there. don't create an impression that it is malema who is going to come and create an alliance with russia. but there are some
for ten years. let's take one particular aspect of your policy positions. yes. do you think aligning yourself with vladimir putin is going to be good for south africa? but that's what it is now. south africa is in alliance with russia, with india, with brazil, with china. so why are you asking me as if it's some policy that is going to be implemented after i took over? south africa is in alliance with russia now. south africa right now calls itself non—aligned. in the context of the war. but these are two different things. south africa is an ally of russia. now, the second question is, where does south africa stand on the war? it says, "i'm non—aligned in relation to war, but russia "remains south africa's friend." so we cannot create confusion around there. don't create an impression that it is malema who is going to come and create an alliance with russia. but there are some very specific...
administration, for example, during the trump tax cuts being able to carve out policy positions like opportunity zones he used as a place that he can do when given the room to run frankly, from a policy perspective in washington. i do think it's notable when he talked about today versus what he didn't talk about today, this is a man who wants to steep his campaign in a faith-based argument. he talked about what his faith means to him as an evangelical. at the same time, though, no mention of abortion and keeping what he would call a pro-life position. when i interviewed him last a few weeks ago, he's someone who said to me that his goal would be, in his words, literally sign the most conservative pro life legislation that a congress would give him if he were commander in chief. that of course wasn't the message today, but it's going to be central when he tries to go to these places like iowa, parts of his home state of south carolina, to really appeal to the more religious base of the republican movement. that could be a way that he could peel off people from