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release of radioactive material. that is the worst case scenario, something a bit like what security experts call a dirty bomb where there is a release of radioactive particles in the area. it is entirely possible even if there was an explosion that it wouldn't lead to that release because last year for instance there were attacks in the region and artillery shells actually hit that powerplant and did some damage but without causing a radioactive release. there have been other worries about the security of the site particularly from the international atomic in a agency in terms of the calling of the reactor are particularly after the dam was blown up but they appeared to believe that has been stabilised but there are been reports of power going on and off. it is certainly the case that this nuclear power plant is the source of concern but it is not clear yet what might or might not happen. live now to liana fix, she's a fellow for europe at the council on foreign relations. it is great to see you again. experts from the un nuclear watchdog say they don't yet
bombardment would destroy the assets on the ground and marine take out his air force. he knows that is a risk so it is bubbling up when he will take right now. bubbling up when he will take riaht now. . ., , bubbling up when he will take right nova— right now. that was going to be m next right now. that was going to be my next question _ right now. that was going to be my next question as _ right now. that was going to be my next question as far - right now. that was going to be my next question as far as - my next question as far as russia is concerned. there was damage at this nuclear plant, and regardless of who caused the damage, what risk is there to russia in terms of radiation, that kind of risk? well, this risk is to all of europe, and that is precisely why i think you would be a very vigorous nato response. after russia blew up the dam recently, nato did not respond militarily. it really wasn't in a position to do so and it hadn't drawn the line there. but i think they have made perfectly clear that any use of nuclear weapons and blowing up a reactor would certainly counter that, and ukraine would elicit a massive military response, and again, think putin is well aware of that being a danger. this would be a danger to all of europe and there is no way that nato will
inspectors from the international atomic energy agency which are on site, and we heard from them today saying with the director general rafael grossi saying that they have been able to look around the plant and they haven't seen evidence of explosions or explosive devices, i should say, but they caveat it with this. the iaea experts have requested additional access necessary to conform the absence of mines or explosives at the site in particular, access to the rooftops of reactor three and four as well as the turbine halls in some parts of the cooling system of the plant. we do have the latest satellite images. they are not from today ore yesterday. they are from last week, and at least to the untrained eye, there's nothing that seems unusual or out of the ordinary can tell thus far.tops that we its portant to note that these reactors are built inside containment, that at least in theory are supposed to withstand
priority for this ukrainian counteroffensive, so they, too, need to step it up. vladimir putin is desperate. we saw what he did, his reaction, to the recent wagner group defection. he's becoming increasingly vuller in internally, and so -- vulnerable internally so there's no limit to what this desperate man might do. he's taken out the dam that has the potential to impact some of those six reservoirs that scott pointed out and the facility. this is -- zaporizhzhia is a pressurized water reactor. chernobyl was a graphite moderated reactor. what that means is they need water, they need water and cooling towers and containment facilities and all those things are made out of concrete and weapons of war can take down those concrete structures. this is a grave threat, and we need to step it up, the international atomic energy
terms his own ability to remain the leader of the russia, that's when he might do something. are you worried we could be at a point like that and that we might not realize we're at that point because what's happening in moscow right now is so opaque? >> you are right. you don't know what you don't know when you don't know it. there's so much happening in moscow that further confuses the situation. i don't think tactically on the battlefield of ukraine that he is in that position yet, that he might consider more extreme measures. blowing up the dam downstream made some sense tactically. it made the ground in southern ukraine impassable for ukrainian forces. in this case with attacking, destroying, blowing up a reactor at zaporizhzhia, i don't see the tactical game it has. i think it creates more strategic and political problems for vladimir putin.
reactor, and create nuclear radiation throughout parts of ukraine. and that part of ukraine has already been flooded by that dam a week ago. some of that could float over to nato, and as you pointed out jonathan, the nato side has a meeting in two weeks, this will be topic one, two, three, four, five. >> i was going to ask you, can ukraine take advantage of russia's instability right now? >> well, yes. i think ukraine just has to stay on message, the message being they are attacking us, we are fighting back. ukraine is still caught on the ground, i understand them npi shortage of ammunition, but russia has a lot of area that they can still use, and ukraine could very use, more air assets, and more air defense systems. so i don't assume russia is not paying attention to ukraine. i think that putin wants to
historically to see a tragedy like this one?— historically to see a tragedy like this one? good evening, first let me _ like this one? good evening, first let me convey _ like this one? good evening, first let me convey my - first let me convey my condolences to the family and friends along with all the others. summary disasters are really not that unusual. most recently was a russian submarine that had a meltdown in the reactor and killed the entire crew on board. that was in the year 2000. we lost another vessel in 1963 and its entire crew. there are accidents all the time with submarines. so many subs that are not classified, they are pretty rare but in fact james cameron who successfully went down to the very bottom of the ocean, the submarine he used also was not classified. so it's an unfortunate accident. and new information is now coming in. for example, the
. even the bow section. this little submersible only 5% size of that. and the chances of finding her in an area literally the size of the state of connecticut which is about ten times size of london here in the uk, are slim at best. >> an interesting way to look at it, how the size of the "titan" compared with the size of the "titanic." david, thank you so much. quick hits across america now. new court documents reveal that dna from bryan kohberger matches evidence found at the crime scene. he is the suspect in the deaths of four idaho university students stabbed in their home last fall. commercial operation of a nuclear reactor in georgia begins next month after years of delays. it is the first new reactor to receive construction approval in the u.s. in three decades. double tornadoes spotted in northeastern colorado after a
authorities now shutting down its final reactor, a precaution against overheating. >> and raf joins us now from near that nuclear power plant in ukraine. raf, how concerned are people where are you? >> reporter: yeah, jose, people here almost literally in the shadow of the plant, and this week, the city carried out a nuclear disaster exercise the u.n. says there's no immediate danger, but they are sending inspectors to the plant. jose >> raf sanchez in zaporizhzhia, ukraine. thank you. back in this country, ted kaczynski, the man known as the unabomber, was found dead at a federal prison in north carolina today. his story terrified and captivated a nation for years. dana griffin has more. >> reporter: decades after his reign of terror gripped the country, the man known as the unabomber was found unresponsive this morning at a north carolina prison no cause of death has been released ted kaczynski had been