paris suburb foiled a terrorist plot in the making. french police arrested 34-year-old rata kriket and called it a major arrest. he was wanted in connection as one of the ring leaders of the paris attacks. now so far, there's no clear link between the french suspect and attacks in brussels. today the death total is at 31, including two victims from the united states, a brother and sister heading home from blood vessels when the bombs went off at the airport. another source still missing. morgan ratford has more on the victims. >> reporter: scattered debris, piercing screams and panicked survivors. >> my body was lifted off the ground. >> reporter: 19-year-old missionary mason wells was standing in the back of the delta check-in line, feet from the bombs. >> i could feel the blast. i was covered in a fair amount of blood, and not necessarily mine. >> reporter: now covered in third degree burns, mason is among the lucky ones. dutch siblings sasha and alexander pinczowski were at the check-in counter. alex was set to be married. both hoped to become citizens. while talking on the phone with their mom, telling her they arrived at the airport safely, the line went dead. relatives frantically traveled to belgium, but authorities identified their remains. we are grateful to have closure, the family said in a statement and thankful for the loving support. support that has erupted on social media. new york senator chuck schumer tweeting our city was their city and we mourned their senseless deaths. sasha's friend posting on instagram, you are the shining star that continues to brighten my day and now the angel that will be with me forever. meanwhile, other families still waiting for answers. the kentucky couple justin and stephanie shults dropped their mother off at the airport. missionaries richard norby and joseph and personal trainer karen northshield, all hospitalized, leaving a ripple of fear among americans still in belgium. >> now it feels like we're living in a war zone at times. or at least living in a society under threat. >> reporter: under threat united by grief. >> joining me now from brussels is msnbc foreign correspondent a monday my huh dean. how close are officials to finding that kind of closure? >> reporter: that's still a difficult work in progress. there was confirmation today about the nationalnalities of those people involved. it is a very complex process. belgium government in touch with hundreds of embassies here, dozens of nationalities among those identified in both casualties and fatalities as well as those injured. that is a long and obviously painstaking process. they certainly want to make sure they get all the right information before they start revealing more about those killed and injured. in terms of the investigation, as you can imagine, that too is also a very complex process. today the federal prosecutor, the belgian federal prosecutor shed more light in terms of where it's going. one of the most significant developments to date is that an individual identified as face al sye arrested and charged with activity related to terrorism, including murder and participating in a terrorist group. they say that a search of his house yielded no evidence of weapons or explosives. so we are still not clear as to what his connection is to the attacks that took place on tuesday and both at the airport as well as at the subway station. what we do know, police still looking for that man identified in the white jacket as a third suspect at the airport attack. the press release also from the federal prosecutor's office said a new arrest warrant has been issued for an individual. now that's consistent with the prosecution in that they don't reveal the surrender name of individuals but want to update the media in terms of who has been detained and not detained. that individual according to the press release is wanted in connection with participating in a terrorist group. what his involvement or her involvement is to this ongoing investigation is still not yet clear. the belgian prosecutor also saying that a man detained a tramway here in brussels will remain in custody for another 24 hours to try and determine if there is any connection with that individual and the ongoing terrorist investigation. so as you can imagine, a lot of moving pieces. but this is perhaps the most so far at least to date, clear indication that the investigation has yielded some arrests with the connection of what took place here last tuesday. joy? >> all right. thank you very much. msnbc in belgium. back with me is malcolm nance. to that point, malcolm, we talked a little bit in the last hour about the mistake the belgian authorities made, believing they had wrapped up this cell, arresting what they thought was i think the tenth person involved linked to the paris attacks and finding out it's much bigger than they thought. how big in theory could it be beyond belgium and france? are we talking about something that spreads to more countries, or are we talking about a belgium-based, most likely terrorism cell? >> i think it's going to be much bigger. as a matter of fact, there have already been indications over the last six months that there is a much bigger european network. i don't even like to call it a network. because a network is a technical term where a small group of people operate together. this is a consequence at the legislation of cells. okay? and the reason i use the term constellation if they all communicate together, they create a star. okay? in the intelligence community, a star network. and another group that provides logistics, that's a star. and when they communicate with money launders and weapon suppliers, that gives you a network. i think there are more than one of these hybrid networks. >> and what is their relation to syria? we know that belgium sends more of its nationals to raqqah, to the bases of where isis is operating in syria, where their so-called caliphate is located. what is the relation between these cells and what is happening in syria? >> well, the belgians per capita have the largest number of contributor terrorists that went over there. i think france and britain actually provide larger numbers, physical numbers. but for a tiny country, belgium provided between 470 and 516 fighters, as many as 90 have been killed. they went to syria. syria and iraq, the caliphate, as the isis calls it, has carved out this place. and they created within there not just combatant commands to go around and fight in their provinces. they also created a covert operations command. an external intelligence organization, probably made up of former saddam regime loyalists, people trained by the kgb. and they have sent those people and created them to infiltrate agents and teams back into europe to create a european battle front. so as we place pressure on top of syria and iraq, with the iraqi army and all the rest the forces coming down on this them flood out fighters. >> to what end? >> to destabilize europe as one, punishment. two, as a way to lift pressure. and three, to aim at drawing global recruiting, you know. more recruits now, they're not going to iraq and syria. they're going to libya. they're going to -- now to yemen, which is a black hole. you're going to see newer, bigger, faster, stronger, younger isis groups start popping up in places. but europe, it's part of their ideology and their religious prophetic belief they have to attack the areas of rome and destabilizing places as part of that. >> and four americans who are concerned while this is going to now spread to this country, what do you say to that? >> the united states has already had a couple of attacks. they believe were isis-inspired. three types of attack, inspired attack which means you read the literature and say, ooh, i'm going to be isis and you go out and do something, you're isis. and enabled attack, where they contact you, and then they give you weapons or equipment or intelligence and tell you to go carry out an attack or directed attack, which is trained agents sent to the united states. and they come out and carry out an attack. 9/11 was a directed attack. we are a -- we have had and thwarted a lot of inspired attacks. there are 900 fbi investigations going on right now about inspired operatives. it's the enabled attack where they come and say, i want you to go to amal oar i want you to go to a theatre, buy a gun legally and just shoot and kill everybody. >> and what role or what impact does it have on these inspired attacks for americans who want to be president of the united states to be saying things like we'll carpet bomb, syria, we'll kill terrorists' families, et cetera. >> intelligence and law enforcement are pulling their hair out of their heads. because these attacks, as the joke newspaper -- the onion so famously said, muslim on the fence about terrorism kicked off by donald trump. right? you're pushing them off the fence. we don't need to have crazies and people who have mental defect actually be encouraged to carry out an act of terrorism on the basis of this cartoonish image of what they think islam is. we want those people to remain firmly on the fence or to go away from it. this is an inflammatory rhetoric and needs to stop. >> malcolm nance, thank you very much. i said you were sane-spleeng earlier. i really appreciate it. after the break, how bernie sanders and hillary clinton would deal with the threat of isis. ♪ ♪ it's easy to love your laxative when that lax loves your body back. only miralax hydrates, eases and softens to unblock naturally, so you have peace of mind from start to finish. love your laxative. miralax. don't let dust and allergies get and life's beautiful moments. with flonase allergy relief, they wont. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. flonase changes everything. my role if elected president, i've got to look at foreign policy and look at the united states' approach to every country on earth. clearly, the middle east has been a cauldron, so volatile, so horrible and so many years, it's an area you've got to pay attention to. but you've got to pay attention to china, you've got to pay attention to latin america. >> the democratic race for president has shifted its focus to foreign policy in the wake of the brussels bombings. here's hillary clinton, the day after tuesday's attacks. >> america doesn't cower in fear or hide behind walls. we lead and we succeed. throughout our history, we have stared into the face of evil, and refused to blink. whether it was fascism, the cold war or hunting down osama bin laden. and we will defeat isis too. >> joining me now, brittney cooper, assistant professor at rutgers, jonathan capehart and former cia officer, jack rice. i'm going to you first, jack, on this. we were talking in the last block about what kind of rhetoric and how it impacts our ability to combat terrorism, both from a practical standpoint and even from a psychological standpoint. when you hear hillary clinton saying that, how does that strike you as the verbiage to use in combatting isis? >> actually, it's completely appropriate in the case like this. when you see some of the over the top language we have heard from others during this presidential run, the problem is, that reflects exactly what it is that isis is arguing. if you think about what they're doing in the middle east right now and around the world, they're trying to make the point that the west and the u.s. in particular looks at them and i'll use this word specifically, as dogs. as less than human. and therefore, not deserving of any compassion of any kind and any sort of logical approach. and unfortunately, that's what you see and that's what you reflect. and that's the last thing we want to do. >> at the same time, there's one element of hillary clinton's past that does keep coming up. bernie sanders keeps bringing it up and her support for the iraq war. and it's the sense she is much more of a hawk. and i'm wondering how that might impact the world's take on her as potential commander in chief. let's listen to bernie sanders along with chris hayes on monday and what he had to say about hillary clinton. >> she's obviously much more hawkish than i am. you know, i think she is perhaps apologized for a vote against the war in iraq. but i don't think that that was in a sense a mistake on her part. that is the type of aggressiveness and hawkishness that i think is what she is part of. i think the role that she played in libya in the overthrow of gadhafi without understanding the long-term implications of regime change there and the vacuum it created for isis to come in is also a mistake. >> and so brittney, is that the flip side? so hillary clinton gets really great poll numbers on her sort of commander in chief falts qualities, but she's also that hawk. is that something that could be of concern to democratic voters? >> i don't think so. i think that the party at this point believes that this kind of aggressiveness is necessary. the thing about terror, it's a narrative that is really taken on a life of its own. so folks are absolutely fearful of walking into the airport and having something happen on u.s. soil like what happened, the tragic things that happened in brussels this week. and hillary is more sure-footed on this point. those of us on the left are very concerned and want far less hawkishness, far less militaryism. the problem is that bernie sanders still hasn't figured out the narrative, the best narrative or the best story here. he simply says, we need to be less hawkish. but the question is, how do you make people feel more secure if the only sort of narrative we have right now is that we see ramped up terrorism, we see ramped up acts of violence across the world. and many respects many americans who feel they're sitting ducks. i do think that if sanders wants to to be compelling, he has to figure out who help people figure out addressing fear in ways that are productive. and right now hillary clinton just sounds better on these issues and has far more experience. >> to that point, jonathan, a bloomberg poll says who could best combat islamic terrorism, hillary clinton does far better than bernie sanders. she gets 65%, he gets 21. you look at the bloomberg national poll and says who would you rather have be president and bernie sanders -- this is within a margin of error, he still defeats her. is that a sign that perhaps these issues of foreign policy combatting terrorism just aren't as important to democratic voters in terms of the way they're making their decision? >> that's actually a very good question. and that might be. but let's take a look. let's focus in on the first number you show. there is a reason why hillary clinton has 65%. in the clip you showed, senator sanders is long on criticism of what then secretary of clinton -- or then senator clinton did in terms of her vote on the iraq war. what secretary clinton did in terms of libya. but very short to nonexistent on what he would do if he were commander in chief. we have no idea what he would do in terms of going after isis. what he would do in terms of, you know, what would he do about syria? what would he do about the arab/palestinian conflict with israel. what would he do about libya. what would he do to help europe combat the terrorist threat that is now being unleashed, not only on brussels, but on paris, but also in africa, as i mentioned in the last segment. we don't know what that is. whenever senator sanders is asked about foreign policy, he always pifrts back to the iraq war and criticizes hillary clinton on libya. >> and jack, i think it is now very much a common belief among military experts, among people in your former profession that invading iraq was a terrible idea. so bernie sanders is not wrong that it created this whole constellation of other problems we're dealing with now. but on the question of bernie sanders, simple declaration of not passivism but saying we need to be less hawkish in general. how does that then reverberate in people in your community about what kind of a commander in chief he would be, and is that a message around the world that is comforting to potential lies? >> i think it seems naive, frankly. but one aspect of this i'm still troubled by. it seems to be coming from bernie sanders to some degree and also those on the right. and it's about this concept of regime change. here's the problem. is the units has historically supported total aaron regimes around the world. let's contemplate egypt, saudi arabia, libya, let's contemplate pakistan. again and again and again. and part of the problem in the middle east is no matter what the americans say, and i don't care who you shine up. left or right. we continue to do that for decade after decade after decade. and in the middle east, people will look at this and say, the americans want these regimes to crush us, to keep us down. but the problem is, it reflects what we have done as a policy. left and right. and we still have to reconcile that, left and right. >> yeah, indeed. and to that point of left and right, donald trump -- we have that piece up right now. and it's right on time. there is a cnn/orc poll who says who could best terrorism. look at donald trump at 33%, hillary clinton at 30, sanders at 11%. the caveat to that, donald trump is in a sense the least hawkish of the candidates remaining for president. he's the anti neocon. he went after george w. bush for invading iraq. what does that poll tell you? >> first of all, i don't know who donald trump is actually going to be on foreign policy, because to me, he seems like a m megalomaniac and also deeply incendiary. so these days he really seems to be playing on people's fears. so the sort of rhetoric he has about muslim folks in the country, keeping them out of the country, the rhetoric he has about locking -- getting mexican folks out of the country does not show he's a trustworthy person on foreign policy. and since he's a man who changes position within an interview on a given day, i'm not so sure i actually believe he wouldn't invade someone, just because he has the power to do so. and i think that's really important. but i think there is another point here that's really important. so while i too would prefer a foreign policy that is far less hawkish, the thing that i think we aren't saying is that hillary clinton -- there is something about the gender dynamics here that matter, as well. could a woman be the first president and run by saying she was going to be less hawkish. that would make her seem soft on foreign policy and play into every gender stereotype we have about a woman not able to be a leader the united states. i think she is a hawk but also positioned in a way she has to be a hawk. and we need to be honest about that. >> and i think that is a very good point. and i think it also informed her response, in addition to being a senator from new york, to the question of whether to invade iraq. i think it's important. thank you for making it. jack rice and my other guests will be back. and a new report, meanwhile, finds that the state of michigan is fundamentally accountable for the water crisis in flint. more on that, next. 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did something happen that prompted north carolina to enact a special session to create this law? >> yeah. it was charlotte. it was the city of charlotte having the temerity to institute a law to include gender identity and had a provision in there to allow transgender people to use the bathroom that conforms to their gender identity. and here's what's remarkable, even more remarkable about what north carolina did. on -- the bill was not revealed until wednesday. it was passed by the general assembly, passed by the senate with all democrats walking out of the senate and refusing to vote on it and signed by the governor in less than 24 hours in a special session that no one knew what the special session was about until they got there. by doing this, north carolina avoided what happened in indiana when that state decided to go for a so-called religious freedom law. a religious freedom bill. and so by doing this, by surprise, and doing it in less than 24 hours, they -- they were able to block the backlash in indiana received before the governor had a chance to sign the bill into law. but as we're seeing happen right now, and as mara talked about, the lgbt community and allies of lgbt community are not taking this lying down. they are going -- they're very angry, they're demonstrating against this. and clearly, what the governor did and what the republican controlled legislature did is reprehensible. >> yeah, and i'm going to come to the panel in a second. i want to go to you one more time, mara. we have seen corporations come out and oppose this, american airlines, apple, bank of america, paypal, lowes, a backlash from some companies about this. on a practical level, what does it mean that somebody who is transgender now -- do people have to take their birth certificates with them to the public restroom? i don't understand how this law can be enforced? >> no, it can't be enforced. and we're hearing from the state government they really actually don't have any idea how they'll enforce it and whether they're he will force it. they actually say that you use the bathroom according to your biological sex as expressed on your birth certificate. that's actually your bureaucratic sex, if you will. there are people, for instance, in neighboring tennessee who can never change their birth certificate under any circumstances. there are people who have changed their birth certificates who north carolina doesn't understand that. we're going to see bearded men in women's rooms. i mean, the governor has just unleashed a thing that he had no idea when he started it. and the legislature doesn't understand what they have done. and they did it all by claiming that transgender people were predators and rapists. and i think we all know that story by now. when donald trump says mexican immigrants are rapists. when -- in all other civil rights movements. when people are called rapists and predators and we must protect our women, you know that it's just a scare tactic. >> let's move to george. as surprising and shocking as it was to see north carolina do this, georgia, for whatever reason, surprised me more. we have now seen a bunch of companies come out against the law that has not yet been signed. just a bill at this point in georgia. and you've already had del, time warner, sewn pictures, comcast, the threat the walking dead will no longer be shot in atlanta. $100 million was generated being shot there. why georgia and what could be the risks of a similar law being enacted there? >> well, i think it's very scary. north carolina, you already have so many youth afraid. lgbt youth in particular are already afraid to go into the locker rooms. are already afraid to be on sports teams and to be authentic about who they are. and with georgia, what's unique right now is that you see the nfl putting pressure about the super bowl and atlanta. and atlanta has put i think 27.5 million already into the stadium and into hosting it. so the nfl is saying, this does not align with our values. and we are concerned about our fan experience. it's not just about the money. it's also about the values. and are our fans going to come to the super bowl and be safe. thing is an opportunity which is significant to not do what indiana did last year. to not do what north carolina just did. which is, again, devastating to youth, it's sending a terrible message. and i think it's victim-blaming. i think, you know, especially transyouth, they're the ones who are subjected to violence in schools. transwomen of color have a disproportionate murder rate. these are the people who should be protected in the bathrooms. the -- mara brought up the policing of bathrooms and how are we going to do that? are kids going to go and say to a boy, are you a boy or girl? you can't go into this bathroom. is someone on a sports team going to say, show me your birth certificate? it's very scary and i hope that georgia's governor and other states really see the ramifications and the backlash. t nba has also taken a stand in north carolina and i think that's significant. >> nba has talked about the all-star game and threats to the -- the economic threats. the interesting thing, you are seeing this huge backlash and the threat of taking away this valuable commodity sports, athletics, production, et cetera. and i'm wondering why they need to take the risk. in the case of georgia, it's a religious liberty, essentially businesses don't have to do business with lgbt people if they don't want to. i don't understand why states would take that risk when you have south carolina get back into the fold and get away from boy costs by bringing down the confederate flag and then two other states in the south decide to throw up the wall. i don't understand it. >> this is morally repug nanlt. i think it's important to say that. these states often have a significant evangelical christian base and are trying to deploy this as part of a moral panic about the deny immigration of society which they frequently mark by simple things like having gender binaries in bathrooms. for instance at home, do you have gender binary bathrooms at home? most of us have neutral gender bathrooms at home, right? so the most basic thing we can do for people is make sure when you need to use the bathroom, you can go to the most convenient place to do so. the fact that we think the bathrooms should be politicized is evidence of how morally obtuse and obscure this conversation is. and i think that we also need to recognize that this narrative about transgender people as a threat. most sexual predators actually identify as being heterosexual. and they're sis gender, meaning their biological gender and sex match, right? so this is all about a sort of moral panic. and here's the reason why it bothers me personally. last year, during easter season, indiana tried to pass a religious liberty law. this year during easter season, this is what north carolina is doing. i think it's whistle politics to the base. and this does not jive with my religious tradition. i think that the kind of christianity we should believe in, one shouldn't be part of politics, but also that providing people access to bathrooms is a basic human right. that's something we can do. we don't have to make our morals be part of that conversation. >> i'm quite sure this will continue to be litigated. we will definitely keep an eye on it. thank you very much to anna auganis and mara and jonathan cooper. thank you very much. where the scandal is rocking the governor's mansion in mbah a moute. stay tuned. and life's beautiful moments. with flonase allergy relief, they wont. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by over producing six key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. most allergy pills only control one substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. so you can seize those moments, wherever you find them. flonase. six is greater than one changes everything. in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. all across the state, the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and new infrastructure for a new generation attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in rochester, with world-class botox. and in buffalo, where medicine meets the future. let us help grow your company's tomorrow - today - at business.ny.gov legalzoom has your back. for your business, our trusted network of attorneys has provided guidance to over 100,000 people just like you. visit legalzoom today. the legal help you can count on. legalzoom. legal help is here. your body is a finely tuned instrument. diarrhea can throw it out of rhythm. imodium multi symptom relief is the only product that combines two powerful ingredients to relieve diarrhea faster than any other otc medicine. it also eases gas, cramps, and bloating. imodium multi symptom relief. restore rhythm to your digestive system. her long day as anne. hair stylist starts imodium multi symptom relief. with shoulder pain when... hey joanne, want to trade the all day relief of 2 aleve with 6 tylenol? 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>> this is a backlash against what progress we have made for gay and bess llesbian and bisex people, by targeting the most vulnerable group in that acronym, disadvantaging veterans, gay, lesbian, and bisexual people. they're using gay people as a scapegoat. >> serena williams won the week. she basically caused raymond well to resign based on his statements that women should bow down and get on their knees and thank men because they were riding on their coattails. it changed the game and the amount of money media can make. when you put them in prime time, you make millions and millions of dollars. she critiqued his sexism and said women shouldn't get on their knees for anybody at this point. she's really effected a race/gender coup. she came back last year triumphant after being the subject of racial taunts in the early 2000s. they've shifted the racial climate there. now she's forcing a shift in the gender climate. >> talk about some people who lost this week. i'll come back to you, jonathan. the issue of arizona, i think voters in arizona really gave us a textbook look at what the post voting rights act world could look like. look that that map, the number of polling locations available to primary voters of 2012 versus 2016. jonathan, helen purcell, the maricopa county public recorder, took responsibility for what happened. is this a good reason for democrats to maybe start talking about the voting rights act? >> yes. yes, it is. and, you know, here's the thing. people, democrats have been talking about the voting rights act since the last election when all the states rushed to put in voting restrictions before the 2012 election. my hope is not just democrats are talking about it, by that i mean democratic leaders and elected officials, but that democratic voters will realize there are forces out there trying to restrict their access to the ballot box, and by restricting the access to the ballot box, could shift the election. if they were willing to stand in line, as we were seeing there in the video, for hours to vote for the reelection of barack obama, they definitely need to come out and stand in line for hours to cast their vote for a democrat. because that is the only way that a democrat will win in november. >> and to the table, the democratic candidates, both bernie sanders and hillary clinton, are they making a mistake not talking more about the voting rights act? >> absolutely, they are being distracted. this is a key way, if they want to run away from the sort of polarizing conversation about black lives matter, which i think is a mistake, this is still a safe but important racial justice issue. the democrats can't win without a young voter base. and all the folks who use expanded polling terms. >> on the issue of women becoming front and center in the republican campaign, how much of a setback are we talking about in this discussion? >> i'll reiterate what i said earlier. i think it's masculinity that's becoming front and center. on the left you have people talking about how is hillary clinton's gender affecting how she's running and her rest owe assistance with the voters. meanwhile, we have a penis measuring contest on the right side of the aisle. >> chloe angel, jonathan capehart, brittany cooper, thank you for being here. thank you for watching. i'll be back at 4:00 p.m. eastern time. next, alex witt with the latest on the terrorism investigation in brussels and the presidential race. stay with us on msnbc. it took joel silverman years to become a master dog trainer. but only a few commands to master depositing checks at chase atms. technology designed for you. so you can easily master the way you bank. out on the town or in for the night, at&t helps keep everyone connected. right now at at&t, buy the new samsung galaxy s7 and get one free. no matter how you hang out, share every minute of it. buy one water resistant samsung galaxy s7 and get one free. and right now, get up to $650 in credits per line to help you switch to at&t. 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there's news tonight as well about this most recent round of election results and, frankly, some of the bullpucky being spewed in the beltway about what the results from last night mean. there's also really interesting and frustraing news about why voters in arizona last night ended up waiting in mile-long lines for five hours at a time after polls closed just to vote in an election that likely didn't even have record turnout in that state. so as i said, there's a lot going on, there's lots to come on this show this hour tonight. we're going to start tonight with none of these stories. we're going to start tonight with a story i did not expect to be covering tonight until this happened. >> during this trip, i made a statement to governor bentley, i'll repeat it to you, i told governor bentley that i loved him like a father. there was nothing i wouldn't do for him except lie to a grand jury. i made governor bentley aware of the recording that i heard, i told governor bentley there was no need to try and explain it for anything other than it was. it was very obvious that it was sexual in nature. governor bentley simply hung his head and asked for advice in how to get out of it. at that point, i explained to governor bentley it would be a crime if he is to use state resources to facilitate a relationship or if he used campaign funds to facilitate the relationship. governor bentley assured me that he had done neither. at that point, governor bentley gave me his word that he would terminate the relationship immediately. governor bentley, uniformed troopers at that point, return home. at 6:30 the next morning, and phone records should be able to validate this, governor bentley called me on my cell phone and stated that he could not go through with it and end the relationship with miss mason. >> it's happening again. at least it seems like it's happening again. it looks like the united states of america may be about to lose yet another governor. not because the governor has been primaried or voted out or recalled from office, but rather looks like we may be about to lose yet another one in a way that sort of this time feels like a cross between mark sanford not really hiking the appalachian trail but instead spending time with his argentinian girlfriend, a cross between that and john kitshob ber resigning in oregon, the influence of his girlfriend over not only the governor, himself, but the state's whole government. this time, though, it's happening in the great state of alabama then this one is like one of those fireworks displays where the finale goes on for so long you're actually kind of begging for it to be over even if you like fireworks because you're not sure you can take one more part of this blowing up so spectacularly. yes, i have to tell you as a little bit of a warning, this story tonight does end with a gubernatorial sex tape which we've got ahold of tonight and we will get there and i will give you another warning before we get there. that's where it ends. here's where it starts. university of south alabama, their sports teams are called the jaguars. i don't think this is true of most mascots. they've gone out of the way to have two versions of their mascot. they have a boy jaguar and a girl jaguar. why do they need two? are male and female jaguars really that different? i don't know. their male mascot is called south paw and their female mascot is called miss pawla. p-a-w-l-a. miss pawla is the girl jaguar. a strange sexy kitten going on with a skirt outfit and hair bow and eyelashes -- there you have it. anyway. these mascots get people fired up at football games and sports event but also have to do sports event photo ops including photo ops with the governor. every year the governor and his family invite all the mascots from alabama's schools. they invite all the people who wear the big headed furry costumes to come to the governor's mansion to promote alabama higher education and this one this past year's big mascot event. there's the governor of alabama, right bentley. there's his wife of 50 years, diane. this is them sandwiched between the two stuffed jaguars between the jaguar boy and jaguar girl. south paw and miss pawla. he's with south paw. she's with miss pawla. one reason the governor nor his wife looked psyched to be there, 36 minutes before that photo was taken, 36 minutes before, diane bentley had filed for divorce. she filed these divorce papers claiming an irretrievable breakdown in her marriage to the governor then after filing those papers, 36 minutes later she went through with the mascots photo op including posing with her husband next to miss pawla. after 50 years of marriage, the first hour of filing divorce papers, there's the soon-to-be ex couple spending quality time, forcing smiles for the camera with the jacksonville state university gamecock and the sad university of alabama elephant who has this droopy unstuffed trunk. we don't need to dwell on this aspect of it but following that very eventful morning where they got divorce papers filed and had to pose with all the people in the mascot suits, after that, once the divorce papers were filed, the alabama press was filled with rumors that the cause of the sitting governor's divorce was an affair. it was an affair between governor bentley and his senior political adviser, a woman who had been his campaign press secretary. the governor has not commented on those -- had not at the time commented on those allegations either to confirm them or deny them. you know, and obviously at root this is a sad story for anyone. the end of a 50-year marriage is always a sad story. if the marriage did end because the governor broke up his marriage by cheating, that sad story will have the additional dimension of the governor's hypocrisy as a politician because this isn't just a personal story, governor bentley ran for this office that he holds on the grounds that he was a family-values candidate, right, a god-fearing family man whose campaign ads featured him talking about the bible while posing with his wife and all of his grandkids. he ran as a man who so believes in the sanctity of traditional marriage that he'd fight same-sex marriage with every fiber of his being. his administration filed a supreme court brief saying marriage between same-sex couples should not be thought of as marriages, they should be seen as social experiments. nobody's love life is a political matter unless you, as a politician, make your love life and your personal life a political matter. and robert bentley, the governor of alabama, has done that. he has been a crusading family-values politician who has campaigned on the superior morality of his own marriage, his own family, and his own family values and how he's going to save alabama from other people's terrible, immoral family choices because his values and his family are superior. and so now for alabama governor robert bentley, this is not just a personal story or sex scandal, it's a political hypocrisy story and unfortunately for him it has also turned out to be something much more serious than that which ultimately could result in him no longer being the governor of alabama even if he wants to continue to be and that's because what it has now turned into is an abuse of the office scandal. and it's becoming potentially an issue in alabama state politics much wider than him. the woman who governor bentley was allegedly shtooping outside his marriage, she's also a semipublic figure. she's the senior political adviser to governor bentley. that is a paid job. one point of interest here is that even though that's a paid job, she's not on the state payroll. instead one of the things that's been tearing up the alabama press on this issue is the realization that although this person is being paid to advise the governor at the most senior level, nobody knows where the money is coming from that pays her. and if she is the governor's mistress or she has been the governor's mistress, figuring out who's been paying her all that time has now become a matter of some ethical urgency in the state of alabama and that brings us to today. in alabama, the secretary of alabama law enforcement is a cabinet-level position. under governor robert bentley a man named spencer collier was promoted from alabama's secretary of homeland security to that cabinet-level position of being the state secretary of law enforcement. governor bentley yesterday fired spencer colliers. fired that cabinet official. and spencer collier responded by calling a press conference at his lawyer's office at which he let loose a fuselaud of bombshells about the governor. >> everything that i'm about to tell you i'm willing to say under oath. i am willing to say in front of a grand jury with my hand on a bible. and i challenge the others to be willing to do the same. my relationship with governor bentley was positive for the better part of almost 15 years. as i mentioned earlier, i considered him both a close personal friend and, in fact, at times i even looked at him as a father figure. i saw the first sign of change in governor robert bentley in august of 2014. i became aware of a text message that was sent from miss rebecca mason to governor bentley. the text message was accidentally intercepted by governor bentley's body man, his personal security. that man was sergeant stan stabler. sergeant stabler accidentally picked up governor bentley's cell phone as he left it in the suburban and on the cell phone there was a text that was sexual in nature. on august 5th, chief lewis came into my office and played me parts of an audio recording in which governor bentley and rebecca mason were participating in an inappropriate sexual conversation. the tape was brought to my attention by chief lewis who received it from a bentley family member. a member of governor bentley's family was on the phone with chief lewis while the tape was being played in my presence. at that point, i explained to governor bentley it would be a crime if he has used state resources to facilitate a relationship or if he used campaign funds to facilitate the relationship. from august of 2014 until the present, it's become apparent to me that rebecca mason has willed to the level of influence over both the governor and state government that i have never seen in all my years of public service. the people of this state deserve better. governor bentley was elected bu overwhelming majority by the people of this state but rebecca mason was not elected by anyone. and the level of influence that she is yielding makes her the de facto governor. i'll finish by saying this. i mentioned that miss mason is not elected. i don't even think we know who even pays miss mason. i don't think anyone knows where he pay comes from, but i do know this. governor robert bentley is not the same man i knew and served in the legislature with and considered one of the best friends that i ever had. and for that, i am saddened. >> so that's the man who was just yesterday fired as the top law enforcement official in the state of alabama. the allegation that this all started with the governor's body man, the governor's, effectively his bodyguard accidentally seeing a sexually explicit text message to the governor on the governor's cell phone when the governor left his phone in his state car, that allegation was denied today by the man who was the governor's bodyguard at the time who i should mention has now incidentally been promoted to take the job that the guy making the allegation was just fired from. but that denial, that was just the first part of a mark sanford-esque press conference from the governor, himself, today. at which the governor apologized but anyone he would not say what he was apologizing for. except that if you were thinking he was apologiing for the thing that you're thinking, he says he definitely didn't do that. >> today i want to apologize to the people of the state of alabama. and once again, i want to apologize to my family. i am truly sorry, and i accept full responsibility. i want everyone to know, though, that i have never had a physical affair with mrs. mason. i can assure the people of alabama that as their governor, i have never done anything illegal. >> you said you had no physical relationship with miss mason. describe your relationship with miss mason beyond the fact that she is your, clearly your closest aide and confidant. >> well, i think that's what she is. she is my closest aide or one of my aides that is part of my leadership team and she does an outstanding job. she has worked for me in various capacities. in fact, she has been with me the entire time before i was elected governor. i have several members of my leadership team right now that have been with me that length of time. zach lee and wesley helton as well as, and will edwards has also to a certain extent. >> governor, you don't make sexually explicit comments to them, i take it, and you did with her. >> i made a mistake. two years ago, i made a mistake. i have rectified that. i have dealt with that and we have moved on. >> did you only make the mistake when people were recording you? >> no. >> governor, what specifically are you apologizing for if you did not have a physical relationship? what is -- >> i'm apologizing -- i'm apologizing for the things that i said. >> sir -- >> why would you make those statements if you were not involved in a physical relationship? >> well, that does not lead to -- that is not a physical relationship, making those statements. >> governor -- >> a physical relationship, is it a romantic relationship? is that romantic relationship still on jng going? >> what do you mean a romantic relationship? >> do you love mrs. mason? >> i love many members of my staff. in fact, all the members of my staff. do i love more than i do others than i do -- you know, some more than others, absolutely. >> spencer collier said today you, quote, admitted to him you were madly in love. >> well, i don't think i've ever said that to mr. collier. >> sir, you've trusted collier for years since day one of your administration. why shouldn't people believe what he's saying now? who is there magically a different standard for him? >> well, what mr. collier is saying today is just not accurate and is just not true. >> governor, did the mistake that you say you made contribute to your divorce? >> i don't have any comment on that. >> has rebecca mason influenced any decisions in your administration, sir? >> kim? >> governor, you said you apologized to your family and miss mason's family. i assume that was prior to today, that was in the past? >> i have apologized to my children and i'm apologizing again. >> why have you not until today voiced apology publicly until today? >> well, first, let me say, i have stated emphatically today that i have not had a physical relationship with mrs. mason, and at times in the past have i said things that i should not have said? absolutely. that's what i'm saying today. >> governor, these comments, were they an isolated incident or did they take place over a longer period of time? how long was this inappropriate communication lasting for? >> i really -- it was a period of time. i really can't say exactly the length of time, but it was over -- you know, i don't want to say a period of months. i'm not going to say that because i'm just -- i'm just saying that it was a period of time in my life that i have made inappropriate comments and -- >> did she ask you to stop? did miss mason ask you to stop? >> no. >> governor, there's a portion of that recording in which you are heard saying "i'd like to walk up behind you and touch you and put my hand on your breast." how would you say that if you were not involved in a physical relationship? >> what i'm saying is there was no sexual activity. >> have you entertained the idea of stepping down? >> no, i have not. >> thank you, governor. >> governor robert bentley of alabama saying today he wouldn't step down. and that, forgive me, also saying he did not have sexual relationsh relations with that woman, no matter what's on the tape. alabama reporters clearly didn't buy today, right? you could tell from their questions. but that is why alabama reporters then made the decision to release the tape, the audiotape that they were describing there. governor bentley's sex tape. has now been released. hold on. the reporter who broke the story and who helped make the call to release that tape publicly tonight is here in just a moment. stay with us. at mfs investment management, we believe in the power of active management. by debating our research to find the best investments. by looking at global and local insights to benefit from different points of view. and by consistently breaking apart risk to focus on long-term value. we actively manage with expertise and conviction. so you can invest with more certainty. 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okay. >> that tape was published tonight by "the birmingham news," alabamalive.com after governor robert bentley of alabama today spent the afternoon making statements like this. >> today i want to apologize to the people of the state of alabama and once again i want to apologize to my family. i am truly sorry. and i accept full responsibility. i want everyone to know, though, that i have never had a physical affair with mrs. mason. >> when "the birmingham news" made a decision to post the sex tape today, they were basically making an implicit journalistic judgment call for their readers, right? decide for yourself if you believe him, listen to this, and then decide for yourself if you believe him when he says he never had an affair. joining us now is the reporter who broke this part of the story, john archibald with "the birmingham news." i imagine you're in the middle of quite a lot of this right now. thank you for taking the time. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> let me ask if i explained the basics here. there are twists and turns and intersections with other alabama scandals and stuff. did i get the basics right of what's happened here? >> you absolutely did. you got about as much as people can digest in one meal here. it's quite a bit. >> why did you decide, you and your editors decide today to post the audiotape of the governor basically having phone sex? what was your decision about the newsworthiness of that? >> well, there was a lot of discussion, frankly, and until the governor decided to have a press conference that he made specifically about that recording, i don't think it ever would have seen the light of day but basically he stood up and said, i'm going to apologize for everything i think you can prove but then i'm going to deny everything i think you can't prove. which came across as disingenuous and having heard the tapes, we believed that it was in the public interest for people to know exactly what was going on and what he was telling them. and a lot of our view, he was not telling the whole truth. >> it's been reported elsewhere that the tape was made, and forgive me, you may have reported this in "the birmingham news" as well but i've seen it reported that the tape we just played was made by the governor's wife, his ex-wife. she made it with her own cell phone after she became suspicious he husband might have been carrying on an affair. i'm not going to ask you to disclose anything about your sources. i wouldn't do that. i do have to ask if you have absolute confidence in the authenticity of the recording, have absolute confidence that is the governor and that you know who the person is he's having phone sex with in that recording? >> i have absolute -- i have 100% belief that it is the accurate recording. the governor confirmed that today. the fired head of alabama's law enforcement agency, spencer collier, had it investigated and confirmed it, and the governor did not argue that point today. in fact, he had the press conference for this specific purpose of addressing that tape. and so i think your understanding of the history is pretty close to right, whether it was the governor's wife or another family member, it was certainly produced while trying to determine if the governor was having an inappropriate relationship. >> do you think that the governor is going to resign? >> i think he is -- i don't think he's going to resign now but he cannot last. he is done. there is no way he can survive. if he's not indicted, if he's not forced to resign, then he will end his career as a really an incredible political joke. i mean, his term as a useful governor is over. >> is it a live issue -- you mentioned indicted there, this prospect he may have used state funds or campaign funds to facilitate this affair or cover it up. when you talk about an indictment, is that what you mean? >> sure. there are all sorts of things that -- i mean, whether it could be state charges, federal charges, there are a lot of discussion about potential investigations. they're very early on so we don't know where they lead, but i think there's a great deal of concern about that among people who are close to them. >> john archibald, columnist with "the birmingham news." today is national exhibit "a" why everybody should subscribe to their local paper and support local papers and editors. thank you. congratulations on this scoop. much more ahead tonight. very, very busy and strange news night. stay with us. you're an at&t small business expert? sure am. my staff could use your help staying in touch with customers. at&t can help you stay connected. am i seeing double? no ma'am. our at&t 'buy one get one free' makes it easier for your staff to send appointment reminders to your customers... ...and share promotions on social media? you know it! now i'm seeing dollar signs. you should probably get your eyes checked. good one babe. optometry humor. right now get up to $650 in credits to help you switch to at&t. theno one surface...out there. no one speed... no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all. the mercedes-benz c-class. five driving modes let you customize the steering, shift points, and suspension to fit the mood you're in... and the road you're on. the 2016 c-class. lease the c300 for $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. or if you're young or old.are if you run everyday, no matter who you are a heart attack can happen without warning. if you've had a heart attack, a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another one. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. bayer aspirin. billions are spent to confuse and, dare i say it, flummox the american public. 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wouldn't someone with those kinds of skills be too valuable to the organization to risk their own individual life in a single suicide attack? one question. here's another. how is it that someone so integral to the paris attacks, someone known by name to authorities as the suspected paris master bomb maker, how is it that that person could stay at large in europe in belgium operationally working toward another plot, apparently, while presumably being one of the most-wanted members of isis in the entire world? joining us now is a foreign correspondent for "the new york times," her beat is covering islamist extremist. >> it's so nice to be here, rachel. >> are those the right questions to be asking? let's start with this first question about the prospect that somebody who appears to be kind of a master bomb maker for isis may have been personally involved as an attacker here. >> you know, i disagree with the analysis that he's the only bomb maker. >> okay. >> the reason i disagree with that is i've been looking at court records from europe of people that we know with were isis and the very first attacker that is linked to isis who comes back to europe leaves syria in december of 2013 and is arrested, we're talking two years ago, arrested in france with three tatp bombs. as of three years ago a man who was not yet part of this network, yet was part of isis was able to pull off making his dangerous ploesive. it's clear they're training them to make this explosive. it's not that easy to make. i believe there are a number of people being trained in this particular skill set. just like you said, i don't think it makes sense that somebody that has this knowledge would be -- that if he's the only one that he would be sacrificed in this operation. >> tatp has been around for a long time. we've seen a lot of successful bombing plots from different terrorist groups over the years with tatp. we've also seen a lot of unsuccessful plots with tatp. it's thought as being up of these things that is essentially over the counter. don't need specialist military equipment or something to make it. the downside of it is supposed to be that it's hard. >> right. >> are you suggesting at least what isis has done is work out the kinks and make it so that everybody can make tatp bombs? >> i think what we've seen is a revolution. for instance, when this guy is arrested in 2014, they found in the apartment three tatp bombs inside red bull soda cans and properly mixed the properties. it was mixed, it was ready to go. on his computer, they found he was doing google searches for terms how to detonate, disnation at a distance. >> he got some of the distance there but needed a little help. >> he didn't quite know how to detonate them i think. we now see in paris they had suicide belts which we believe have around one pound, maybe a little bit more, of tatp. now suddenly at the airport, jimmy oxley, i believe is one of the leading academics studying this compound looked at the images of the damage and based on the preliminary damage, 30 to 100 pounds of tatp that were used. i went to her lab incidentally a couple weeks ago and took essentially a spoonful of tatp and put it inside a mailbox. we had to stand many of yards back and showed us what a teaspoon does. it's an unbelievable explosion. i almost hit the deck even though i knew, there was a countdown, i knew it was going to go off. the explosion from one teaspoon is so powerful you almost feel it knocking the win out of you. >> if they're creating bombs with up to 100 pounds of tatp, is that an additional degree of difficulty or just scaling up -- >> yes, yes, because what happens the more of it you have, it's very volatile. as oxley puts it, it's very likely to be insulted. friction, heat, electricity can set it off. the more you have, the more explosive you have. in the west bank tatp has been used by palestinian groups and it earned the nickname the mother of satan because so many bombers lost their arms. you know -- >> oh, not for it being successfully used but for the people gets hurt trying to make it. >> for the bomb makers actually getting hurt. in paris they successfully set off tatp bombs in three locations. two inside the bataclan, one by abaaoud in the location where he died. seven different places they all went off. there wasn't a single case of the bombs not doing off, wasn't a single case of not having the detonator, not having the parts. now in brussels we're seeing two devastating bombs at the airport. >> huge bombs. 30 to 100. then equally large, i mean, maybe not equally large, let me take that back, but still large inside the subway car. three. and so to me it shows that they figured out the supply chain, they figured out how to make it without killing themselves. unbelievably they've managed to do this -- this is a peroxide-based bomb so it does give off an odor. and so did neighbors not notice that there was essentially the smell of bleach, you know, coming from the next apartment? so to me it really shows what we're calling the external operations arm of isis, from a group that wanted to do this two years ago but didn't quite know how to do it to the devastation that we're seeing this week in brussels. >> and the nr we understand about their operational capabilities the more chilling it is to see how much they've been able to operate. >> we. >> even while being the most wanted men in western europe. >> yes. >> callimachi, this is illuminating and absolutely terrifying. thank you for helping us understand it. >> thanks for having me. >> that's your work now. appreciate it. a "new york times" foreign correspondent who specializes in this. we'll be right back. stay with us. the e-class has 11 intelligent driver-assist systems. it recognizes pedestrians and alerts you. warns you about incoming cross-traffic. cameras and radar detect dangers you don't. and it can even stop by itself. so in this crash test, one thing's missing: a crash. the 2016 e-class. now receive up to a $3,000 spring bonus on the e350 sport sedan. don't let dust and allergies get and life's beautiful moments. with flonase allergy relief, they wont. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. flonase changes everything. this is lloyd. to prove to you that the better choice for him is aleve. he's agreed to give it up. ok, but i have 30 acres to cover by sundown. we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. yeah, i was ok, but after lunch my knee started hurting again so... more pills. yep... another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? 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>> that's legally the line back there. >> i think everybody should have a vote. >> 7:00. >> the polls should stay open. >> we were in line. what about all these cars in line waiting to get in line to vote. >> go ahead and call them up, please. >> we will. >> we will. we will call. when we were covering the arizona primary last night we were getting reports of really long lines of people trying to vote. and you cover enough elections you get reports of long lines on election night. it happens every election night somewhere. what was weird in arizona last night was that we kept getting these reports of long lines for hours and hours and hours, hours after the polls supposedly closed and for hours after the races were called in both the democratic and republican. and now we know why. it's because of the supreme court of the united states. the conservative majority of the supreme court gutted the voting rights act of 2013 and that means states that have a history of repressing the vote and discrimination no longer need to get permission from the justice department if they want to change the voting rules. states like arizona can do what they want now because of the supreme court and what arizona decided to do last night in this 40% minority count in the biggest population center in the state, they decided to cut the number of polling places in the county from more than 200 in 2012 to 60 last night. one polling place per 21,000 voters. they cut it by 75%. they thought it might save them some money. maybe it did. this is what it also did. donald trump won arizona by 22 points and hillary clinton won arizona by 18 points and maybe those margins were so big didn't effect that overall outcome, but if the supreme court and justice scalia and the vaccensy on the court and the president being able to appoint a new justice, arizona made it very concrete last night. miles and miles and miles and hours and hours and hours of concrete. it's disgusting. that does it for us tonight. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> you have to stop breaking these sex stories. you got to -- come on. >> there's something disturbing too about the constant pictures of the governor of alabama with the corresponding information. it's the -- yeah. >> let's just say you broke my concentration on my homework here. >> i'm sorry. i won't do it again until the next time. >> thanks rachel. >> thanks. this is not the first time the wife of a presidential candidate has been cut in the
presidential candidates and president obama, himself, continuing to respond to what happened in brussels. there's news tonight as well about this most recent round of election results and, frankly, some of the bullpucky being spewed in the beltway about what the results from last night mean. there's also really interesting and frustrating news about why voters in arizona last night ended up waiting in mile-long lines for five hours at a time after polls closed just to vote in an election that likely didn't even have record turnout in that state. so as i said, there's a lot going on, there's lots to come on this show this hour tonight. we're going to start tonight with none of those stories. we're going to start tonight with a story i did not expect to be covering tonight until this happened. >> during this trip, i made a statement to governor bentley, i'll repeat it to you, i told governor bentley that i loved him like a father. there was nothing i wouldn't do for him except lie to a grand jury. i made governor bentley aware of the recording that i heard, i told governor bentley there was no need to try and explain it for anything other than it was. it was very obvious that it was sexual in nature. governor bentley simply hung his head and asked for advicin how to get out of it. at that point, i explained to governor bentley it would be a crime if he is to use state resources to facilitate a relationship or if he used campaign funds to facilitate the relationship. governor bentley assured me that he had done neither. at that point, governor bentley gave me his word that he would terminate the relationship immediately. governor bentley, uniformed troopers at this point, he returned home. at 6:30 the next morning, and phone records should be able to validate this, governor bentley called me on my cell phone and stated that he could not go through with it and end the relationship with miss mason. >> it's happening again. at least it seems like it's happening again. it looks like the united states of america may be about to lose yet another governor. not because the governor has been primaried or voted out or recalled from office, but rather looks like we may be about to lose yet another one in a way that sort of this time feels like a cross between mark sanford not really hiking the appalachian trail but instead spending time with his argentinian girlfriend, a cross between that and john kitzhaber resigning as governor in or, after a collective freakout over not the girlfriend, but the state's whole government. this time, though, it's happening in the great state of alabama then this one is like one of those fireworks displays where the finale goes on for so long you're actually kind of begging for it to be over even if you like fireworks because you're not sure you can take one more part of this blowing up so spectacularly. yes, i have to tell you as a little bit of a warning, this story tonight does end with a gubernatorial sex tape which we've got ahold of tonight and we will get there and i will give you another warning before we get there. that's where it ends. here's where it starts. university of south alabama, their sports teams are called the jaguars. i don't think this is true of most mascots. at most colleges, but at south alabama, they have again out of their way to have two versions of their mascots. they have a boy jaguar and a girl jaguar. why do they need two? are male and female jaguars really that different? i don't know. their male mascot is called south paw and their female mascot is called miss pawla. p-a-w-l-a. miss pawla is the girl jaguar. a strange sexy kitten going on with a skirt outfit and hair bow and eyelashes -- there you have it. anyway. these mascots get people fired up at football games and sports events at south alabama. but then they have to do sports event photo ops including photo ops with the governor. every year the governor and his family invite all the mascots from all of al's public schools. they invite all the people who wear the big headed furry costumes to come to the governor's mansion to promote alabama higher education and this one this past year's big mascot event. there's the governor of alabama, robert bentley. there's his wife of 50 years, diane. this is them sandwiched between the two stuffed jaguars between the jaguar boy and jaguar girl. south paw and miss pawla. he's with south paw. she's with miss pawla. we now know that one reason neither the governor nor his wife looked psyched to be there, 36 minutes before that photo was taken, 36 minutes before, diane bentley had filed for divorce. she filed these divorce papers claiming an irretrievable breakdown in her marriage to the governor then after filing those papers, 36 minutes later she went through with the mascots photo op including posing with her husband next to miss pawla. all the other alabama college mascots. after 50 years of marriage, the first hour of filing divorce papers, there's the soon-to-be ex couple spending quality time, forcing smiles for the camera with the jacksonville state university gamecock and a giant dragon called blaze and the sad university of alabama elephant who has this droopy unstuffed trunk. we don't need to dwell on this aspect of it but following that very eventful morning where they got divorce papers filed and had to pose with all the people in the mascot suits, after that, once the divorce papers were filed, the alabama press was filled with rumors that the cause of the sitting governor's divorce was an affair. it was an affair between governor bentley and his senior political adviser, a woman who had been his campaign press secretary. the governor has not commented on those -- had not at the time commented on those allegations either to confirm them or deny them. you know, and obviously at root this is a sad story for anyone. the end of a 50-year marriage is always a sad story. if the marriage did end because the governor broke up his marriage by cheating, that sad story will have the additional dimension of the governor's hypocrisy as a politician because this isn't just a personal story, governor bentley ran for this office that he holds on the grounds that he was a family-values candidate, right, a god-fearing family man whose campaign ads featured him talking about the bible while posing with his wife and all of his grandkids. he ran as a man who so believes in the sanctity of traditional marriage that he'd fight same-sex marriage with every fiber of his being. his administration filed a supreme court brief saying marriage between same-sex couples should not be thought of as marriages, they should be seen as social experiments. nobody's love life is a political matter unless you, as a politician, make your love life and your personal life a political matter. and robert bentley, the governor of alabama, has done that. he has been a crusading family-values politician who has campaigned on the superior morality of his own marriage, his own family, and his own family values and how he's going to save alabama from other people's terrible, immoral family choices because his values and his family are superior. and so now for alabama governor robert bentley, this is not just a personal story or sex scandal, it's a political hypocrisy story and unfortunately for him it has also turned out to be something much more serious than that which ultimately could result in him no longer being the governor of alabama even if he wants to continue to be and that's because what it has now turned into is an abuse of the office scandal. and it's becoming potentially an issue in alabama state politics much wider than him. the woman who governor bentley was allegedly schtooping outside his marriage, she's also a semipublic figure. she's the senior political adviser to governor bentley. that is a paid job. one point of interest here is that even though that's a paid job, she's not on the state payroll. instead one of the things that's been tearing up the alabama press on this issue is the realization that although this person is being paid to advise the governor at the most senior level, nobody knows where the money is coming from that pays her. and if she is the governor's mistress or she has been the governor's mistress, figuring out who's been paying her all that time has now become a matter of some ethical urgency in the state of alabama and that brings us to today. up in alabama, the secretary of alabama law enforcement is a cabinet-level position. under governor robert bentley a man named spencer collier was promoted from alabama's secretary of homeland security to that cabinet-level position of being the state secretary of law enforcement. governor bentley yesterday fired spencer collier. fired that cabinet official. and spencer collier responded by calling a press conference at his lawyer's office at which he let loose a fuselage of bombshells about the governor. >> everything that i'm about to tell you i'm willing to say under oath. i am willing to say in front of a grand jury with my hand on a bible. and i challenge the others to be willing to do the same. my relationship with governor bentley was positive for the better part of almost 15 years. as i mentioned earlier, i considered him both a close personal friend and, in fact, at times i even looked at him as a father figure. i saw the first sign of change in governor robert bentley in august of 2014. i became aware of a text message that was sent from miss rebecca mason to governor bentley. the text message was accidentally intercepted by governor bentley's body man, his personal security. that man was sergeant stan stabler. sergeant stabler accidentally picked up governor bentley's cell phone as he left it in the suburban and on the cell phone there was a text that was sexual in nature. on august 5th, chief lewis came into my office and played me parts of an audio recording in which governor bentley and rebekah mason were participating in an inappropriate sexual conversation. the tape was brought to my attention by chief lewis who received it from a bentley family member. a member of governor bentley's family was on the phone with chief lewis while the tape was being played in my presence. at that point, i explained to governor bentley it would be a crime if he has used state resources to facilitate a relationship or if he used campaign funds to facilitate the relationship. from august of 2014 until the present, it's become apparent to me that rebekah mason has willed to the level of influence over both the governor and state government that i have never seen in all my years of public service. the people of this state deserve better. governor bentley was elected by overwhelming majority by the people of this state, but rebekah mason was not elected by anyone. and the level of influence that she is yielding makes her the de facto governor. i'll finish by saying this. i mentioned that miss mason is not elected. i don't even think we know who even pays miss mason. i don't think anyone knows where he pay comes from, but i do know this. governor robert bentley is not the same man i knew and served in the legislature with and considered one of the best friends that i ever had. and for that, i am saddened. >> so that's the man who was just yesterday fired as the top law enforcement official in the state of alabama. the allegation that this all started with the governor's body man, the governor's, effectively his bodyguard accidentally seeing a sexually explicit text message to the governor on the governor's cell phone when the governor left his phone in his state car, that allegation was denied today by the man who was the governor's bodyguard at the time who i should mention has now incidentally been promoted to take the job that the guy making the allegation was just fired from. but that denial, that was just the first part of a mark sanford-esque press conference from the governor, himself, today. at which the governor apologized but then he would not say what he was apologizing for. except that if you were thinking he was apologizing for the thing that you're thinking, he says he definitely didn't do that. >> today i want to apologize to the people of the state of alabama. and once again, i want to apologize to my family. i am truly sorry, and i accept full responsibility. i want everyone to know, though, that i have never had a physical affair with mrs. mason. i can assure the people of alabama that as their governor, i have never done anything illegal. >> you said you had no physical relationship with miss mason. describe your relationship with miss mason beyond the fact that she is your -- clearly your closest aide and confidant. >> well, i think that's what she is. she is my closest aide or one of my aides that is part of my leadership team and she does an outstanding job. she has worked for me in various capacities. in fact, she has been with me the entire time before i was elected governor. i have several members of my leadership team right now that have been with me that length of time. zach lee and wesley helton as well as -- and will edwards has also to a certain extent. >> governor, you don't make sexually explicit comments to them, i take it, and you did with her. >> i made a mistake. two years ago, i made a mistake. i have rectified that. i have dealt with that and we have moved on. >> did you only make the mistake when people were recording you? >> no. >> governor, what specifically are you apologizing for if you did not have a physical relationship? what is -- >> i'm apologizing -- i'm apologizing for the things that i said. >> sir -- >> why would you make those statements if you were not involved in a physical relationship? >> well, that does not lead to -- that is not a physical relationship, making those statements. >> governor -- >> a physical relationship, is it a romantic relationship? is that romantic relationship still ongoing? >> what do you mean a romantic relationship? >> do you love mrs. mason? >> i love many members of my staff. in fact, all the members of my staff. do i love more than i do others than i do -- you know, some more than others, absolutely. >> spencer collier said today you, quote, admitted to him you were madly in love. >> well, i don't think i've ever said that to mr. collier. >> sir, you've trusted collier up for years since day one of your administration. why shouldn't people believe what he's saying now? why is there magically a different standard for him? >> well, what mr. collier is saying today is just not accurate and is just not true. >> governor, did the mistake that you say you made contribute to your divorce? >> i don't have any comment on that. >> has rebekah mason influenced any decisions in your administration, sir? >> kim? >> governor, you said you apologized to your family and miss mason's family. i assume that was prior to today, that was in the past? >> i have apologized to my children and i'm apologizing again. >> why have you not until today voiced apology publicly until today? >> well, first, let me say, i have stated emphatically today that i have not had a physical relationship with mrs. mason, and at times in the past have i said things that i should not have said? absolutely. that's what i'm saying today. >> governor, these comments, were they an isolated incident or did they take place over a longer period of time? how long was this inappropriate communication lasting for? >> i really -- it was a period of time. i really can't say exactly the length of time, but it was over -- you know, i don't want to say a period of months. i'm not going to say that because i'm just -- i'm just saying that it was a period of time in my life that i have made inappropriate comments and -- >> did she ask you to stop? did miss mason ask you to stop? >> no. >> governor, there's a portion of that recording in which you are heard saying "i'd like to walk up behind you and touch you and put my hand on your breast." how would you say that if you were not involved in a physical relationship? >> what i'm saying is there was no sexual activity. >> have you entertained the idea of stepping down? >> no, i have not. >> thank you, governor. >> governor robert bentley of alabama saying today he wouldn't step down. and that, forgive me, also saying he did not have sexual relations with that woman, no matter what's on the tape. alabama reporters clearly didn't buy today, right? you could tell from their questions. but that is why alabama reporters then made the decision to release the tape, the audiotape that they were describing there. governor bentley's sex tape. has now been released. hold on. the reporter who broke the story and who helped make the call to release that tape publicly tonight is here in just a moment. stay with us. ...another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid 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okay. >> when i put my arms around you and i put my arm on your breast -- i loved that too. putting my hands on you. i'm thinking about this right now. yeah, i can tell you were thinking about it, i can tell you you were thinking about it last night. it's okay. everything is going to be fine. we'll be all right. i know, i know. i know. i know it is. i know. yeah, i love you, i do. i do. i do love -- but i'll tell you what i'm going to do tonight. we're going to do it. we're going to do what we did the other day. >> that tape was published tonight by "the birmingham news," alabamalive.com after governor robert bentley of alabama today spent the afternoon making statements like this. >> today i want to apologize to the people of the state of alabama and once again i want to apologize to my family. i am truly sorry. and i accept full responsibility. i want everyone to know, though, that i have never had a physical affair with mrs. mason. >> when "the birmingham news" made a decision to post the sex tape today, they were basically making an implicit journalistic judgment call for their readers, right? decide for yourself if you believe him, listen to this, and then decide for yourself if you believe him when he says he never had an affair. joining us now is the reporter who broke this part of the story, john archibald with "the birmingham news." i imagine you're in the middle of quite a lot of this right now. thank you for taking the time. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> let me ask if i explained the basics here. there are twists and turns and intersections with other alabama scandals and stuff. did i get the basics right of what's happened here? >> you absolutely did. you got about as much as people can digest in one meal here. it's quite a bit. >> why did you decide, you and your editors decide today to post the audiotape of the governor basically having phone sex? what was your decision about the newsworthiness of that? >> well, there was a lot of discussion, frankly, and until the governor decided to have a press conference that he made specifically about that recording, i don't think it ever would have seen the light of day but basically he stood up and said, i'm going to apologize for everything i think you can prove but then i'm going to deny everything i think you can't prove. which came across as disingenuous and having heard the tapes, we believed that it was in the public interest for people to know exactly what was going on and what he was telling them. and a lot of our view, he was not telling the whole truth. >> it's been reported elsewhere that the tape was made, and forgive me, you may have reported this in "the birmingham news" as well but i've seen it reported that the tape we just played was made by the governor's wife, his ex-wife. she made it with her own cell phone after she became suspicious that her husband might have been carrying on an affair. i'm not going to ask you to disclose anything about your sources. i wouldn't do that. i do have to ask if you have absolute confidence in the authenticity of the recording, have absolute confidence that is the governor and that you know who the person is he's having phone sex with in that recording? >> i have absolute -- i have 100% belief that it is the accurate recording. the governor confirmed that today. the fired head of alabama's law enforcement agency, spencer collier, had it investigated and confirmed it, and the governor did not argue that point today. in fact, he had the press conference for this specific purpose of addressing that tape. and so i think your understanding of the history is pretty close to right, whether it was the governor's wife or another family member, it was certainly produced while trying to determine if the governor was having an inappropriate relationship. >> do you think that the governor is going to resign? >> i think he is -- i don't think he's going to resign now but he cannot last. he is done. there is no way he can survive. if he's not indicted, if he's not forced to resign, then he will end his career as a really an incredible political joke. i mean, his term as a useful governor is over. >> is it a live issue -- you mentioned indicted there, this prospect he may have used state funds or campaign funds to facilitate this affair or cover it up. when you talk about an indictment, is that what you mean? >> sure. there are all sorts of things that -- i mean, whether it could be state charges, federal charges, there are a lot of discussion about potential investigations. they're very early on so we don't know where they lead, but i think there's a great deal of concern about that among people who are close to them. >> john archibald, columnist with "the birmingham news." today is national exhibit "a" for why everyone should subscribe to their local paper and support their local papers and editors. thank you. congratulations on this scoop. >> thank you, rachel. much more ahead tonight. very, very busy and strange news night. stay with us. >> i'm alex trebek. if you're age 50 to 85, i have an important message about security. write down the number on your screen, so you can call when i finish. the lock i want to talk to you about isn't the one on your door. this is a lock for your life insurance, a rate lock, that guarantees your rate can never go up at any time, for any reason. but be careful. many policies you see do not have one, but you can get a lifetime rate lock through the colonial penn program. call this number to learn more. this plan was designed with a rate lock for people on a fixed income who want affordable life insurance that's simple to get. coverage options for just $9.95 a month, less than 35 cents a day. act now and your rate will be locked in for life. it will never increase, guaranteed. this is lifelong coverage that can never be cancelled as long as you pay your premiums, guaranteed. and your acceptance is guaranteed, with no health questions. you cannot be turned down because of your health. call for your information kit and read about this rate lock for yourself. you'll also get a free gift with great information both are free, with no obligation, so don't miss out. call for information, then decide. read about the 30 day, 100 percent money back guarantee. don't wait, call this number now. ♪ when i hear somebody saying we should carpet bomb iraq or syria, not only is that inhumane, not only is that contrary to our values but that would likely be an extraordinary mechanism for isil to recruit more people willing to die and explode bombs in an airport or in a metro station. that's not a smart strategy. as far as the notion of having surveillance of neighborhoods where muslims are present, i just left a country that engages in that kind of neighborhood surveillance whichby the way, the father of senator cruz escaped for america. the land of the free. the notion that we would start down that slippery slope makes absolutely no sense. it's contrary to who we are. and it's not going to help us defeat isil. >> it would also be a serious mistake to begin carpet bombing populated areas into oblivion. proposing that doesn't make you sound tough. it makes you sound like you're in over your head. slogans aren't a strategy. loose cannons tend to misfire. what america needs is strong, smart, steady leadership to wage and win this struggle. >> president obama and presidential candidate hillary clinton going out of their way today to specifically rebut republican presidential candidates on their reactions to the brussels terror attack. in europe, they're having the same kind of political fight that we are in some ways but there's also very practical and immediate consternation in europe about how people directly connected to the paris attack from november could not only still be at large four months later, but four months later, four months after paris they could still be free and unpressured enough to be planning and ultimately carrying out another spectacular attack inside the heart of europe. one of the very best reporters on this beat joins us live next. stay with us. we needed 30 new hires for our call center. i'm spending too much time hiring and not enough time in my kitchen. 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wouldn't someone with those kinds of skills be too valuable to the organization to waste their own individual life in a single suicide attack? one question. here's another. whatever we know about law enforcement and intelligence operations, how is it that someone so integral to the pairs attacks, someone known by name to authorities as the suspected paris master bomb maker, how is it that that person could stay at large in europe in belgium operationally working toward another plot, apparently, while presumably being one of the most-wanted members of isis in the entire world? joining us now is a foreign correspondent for "the new york times," her beat is covering islamic extremism. including al qaeda. >> it's so nice to be here, rachel. >> are those the right questions to be asking? let's start with this first question about the prospect that somebody who appears to be kind of a master bomb maker for isis may have been personally involved as an attacker here. >> you know, i disagree with the analysis that he's the only bomb maker. >> okay. >> the reason i disagree with that is i've been looking at court records from europe of people that we know where with isis and the very first attacker that is linked to isis who comes back to europe leaves syria in december of 2013 and is arrested, we're talking two years ago, arrested in france with three tatp bombs. as of two years ago a man that was not yet part of this network, yet was part of isis was able to pull off making this dangerous explosive. it's clear they're training them to make this explosive. it's not that easy to make. i believe there are a number of people being trained in this particular skill set. just like you said, i don't think it makes sense that somebody that has this knowledge would be -- that if he's the only one that he would be sacrificed in this operation. >> tatp has been around for a long time. we've seen a lot of successful bombing plots from different terrorist groups over the years with tatp. we've also seen a lot of unsuccessful plots with tatp. it's thought of as being one of these things that is essentially over the counter. don't need specialist military equipment or something to make it. the downside of it is supposed to be that it's hard. >> right. >> are you suggesting at least what isis has done is work out the kinks and make it so that everybody can make tatp bombs? >> i think what we've seen is a revolution. for instance, when this guy is arrested in 2014, they found in the apartment three tatp bombs inside red bull soda cans and properly mixed the properties. it was mixed, it was ready to go. on his computer, they found he was doing google searches for terms like how to detonate. detonation at a distance. >> he got some of the distance there but needed a little help. >> he didn't quite know how to detonate them i think. we now see in paris they had suicide belts which we believe have around one pound, maybe a little bit more, of tatp. now suddenly at the airport, jimmy oxley, i believe is one of the leading academics studying this compound looked at the images of the damage and based on the preliminary images she said 30 to 100 pounds of tatp were used. i went to her lab incidentally a couple weeks ago and took essentially a spoonful of tatp and put it inside a mailbox. we had to stand many hundreds of yards back and showed us what a despoon does. it's an unbelievable explosion. i almost hit the deck even though i knew, there was a countdown, i knew it was going to go off. the explosion from one teaspoon is so powerful you almost feel it knocking the wind out of you. >> if they're creating bombs with up to 100 pounds of tatp, is that an additional degree of difficulty or just scaling up -- >> yes, yes, because what happens the more of it you have, it's very volatile. as oxley puts it, it's very likely to be insulted. anything that you do, friction, heat, electricity can set it off. the more you have, the more explosi explosive it is. in the west bank tatp has been used by palestinian groups and it earned the nickname the mother of satan because so many bombers lost their arms. you know -- >> oh, not for it being successfully used but for the people getting hurt trying to make it. >> for the bomb makers actually getting hurt. in paris they successfully set off tatp bombs at seven different locations. two inside the bataclan, one by abboud the master planner in the location where he died. seven different places they all went off. there wasn't a single case of the bombs not doing off, wasn't a single case of not having the detonator, not having the parts. now in brussels we're seeing two devastating bombs at the airport. >> huge bombs. 30 to 100. then equally large, i mean, maybe not equally large, let me take that back, but still large inside the subway car. three. and so to me it shows that they figured out the supply chain, they figured out how to make it without killing themselves. unbelievably they've managed to do this -- this is a peroxide-based bomb so it does give off an odor. and so did neighbors not notice that there was essentially the smell of bleach, you know, coming from the next apartment? so to me it really shows what we're calling the external operations arm of isis, from a group that wanted to do this two years ago but didn't quite know how to do it to the devastation that we're seeing this week in brussels. >> and the more we understand about their operational capabilities the more chilling it is to see how much they've been able to operate. >> yes. >> even while being the most wanted men in western europe. >> yes. >> rukmini callimachi, this is illuminating and absolutely terrifying. thank you for helping us understand it. >> thanks for having me. >> that's your work now. appreciate it. a "new york times" foreign correspondent who specializes in islamic extremism right now. we'll be right back. stay with us. it was an absolutely beautiful day in denver yesterday. sunny, temperatures in the 70s. hooray for spring. >> kristi: that was yesterday. this is today. >> it's incredible how powerful this storm is. we are actually driving on jewel avenue trying to get to walk ins and we hit a snow bank. look at how deep this is, kyle. several feet. we're stuck right now. we're here nice and warm inside of the live truck, but the reason we can't see anything on the road, look at this visibility. a couple of feet back as i step here you can barely see me. >> that's today. denver airport is closed until further notice. hundreds of flights cancelled. parts of two interstates in colorado also closed. the national guard deployed to rescue stranded drivers. some parts of colorado have gotten over 20 inches of snow today after 70 degrees yesterday. and that storm is moving through the plains into the upper midwest tonight. 16 million people under winter weather alerts in the country right now. happy spring. much more to come tonight. stay with us. other than who won and by how much, the big story out of last night's elections was really this spectacle in arizona where people waited up to five hours even after the polls closed to cast their votes. long lines to vote aren't necessarily huge news anymore in our country, but today we learned some very surprising news about what exactly caused these specific lines in arizona last night. today we learned basically who done it. and it's not who you think. and that really surprising story is next. hing happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair works... ...in one week. with the... fastest retinol formula. ...to visibly reduce wrinkles. neutrogena®. i'm spending too muchs for time hiringnter. and not enough time in my kitchen. 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"first look" is up next. >> it's thursday, march 24th. right now on "first look," more connections between the paris and brussels attacks as an international manhunt continues for the hat man in white. president obama is speaking out against isis as the presidential candidates attack the commander in chief for not doing enough. then politics takes an ugly turn as the spouses of donald trump and ted cruz are dragged into the mud slinging. winter is not done yet with over 10 million in the path of severe weather. great news on women's salaries and a rare tango with president obama. "first look" starts right now. good morning, everybody. thanks for joining us today. i'm betty nguyen. the intense manhunt in bel
abortion were made legal, women who get abortions should be punished. then he walked out a statement saying it is unclear. then the person who performed the abortion should be punished. not the women. we have jim acosta with details. >> reporter: donald trump carved out a hard line to walk it back hours later. his comments came on msnbc. he said women should be punished if the procedure were made illegal. >> should abortion be punished? >> people in certain parts of the republican party and conservatives, yes. >> what about you? >> i say it is a serious problem. a problem we have to decide on. are you going to say put them in jail? the answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? ten states? ten years? >> i don't know. >> why not? >> you take positions on everything else. >> i take positions on everything else. it is a complicated position. >> reporter: then he did a 180. saying it would be doctors. not women. if congress passed legislation and the federal courts upheld or any state permitted to ban abortion under federal or state law or any person performing the illegal act, they would be held legally responsible, not the woman. my position has not changed. like ronald reagan, i are am pro-life, with exceptions. you don't punish women who go through the procedure. he outlined the position something you hardly ever see in politics. boris and christine. >> trump's republican rivals had a field day with this. denouncing the idea of punishing women who have an abortion and slamming the front runner for the about face on the issue. >> that comment was wrong. it really is the latest demonstration of how little donald has thought of the serious issues facing this country. i am pro life. being pro life means standing and defending the unborn, but it means defending moms and women and incredible gift women have to bring life into the world. dona donald's comments were unfortunate and wrong. >> of course, women should not be punished. i think donald trump will figure out a way to say he didn't say it or misquoted. >> in the meantime, blasting trump's comments, bernie sanders calling trump's position shameful. hillary clinton tied his stance to the entire republican field. >> to punish a woman for having an abortion is beyond comprehension. you know, one would say what is in donald trump's mind except we're tired of saying that? i don't know what world this person lives in. >> the choice is clear. the republicans all line up together. maybe they aren't quite as open about it as donald trump was earlier today. but they all have the same position. if you make abortion a crime, you make it illegal. then you make women and doctors criminals. >> happening today, both hillary clinton and bernie sanders stage campaign events in new york. the state is one of two tough contests ahead for the democrats. in wisconsin, clinton and sanders and neck and neck in the next battle next tuesday. sanders was born and raised in new york city. he is turning both states into tough battle grounds for clinton. the latest from jeff zeleny in new york. >> reporter: christine, the democratic race is focusing on wisconsin and new york. they have dualing campaigns in new york. so many delegates. 247 delegates are hang in the balance of 2.5 weeks time. there are other primaries before. wisconsin. even bernie sanders is coming off the trail to new york to start planting the flag here. hillary clinton was at the historic apollo theater in harlem. she will campaign here. >> new york is home to 20 million people. we don't all look the same. we don't all sound the same or worship the same either, but we pull together. when a candidate for president says we can solve america's problems by building walls, discriminating against people based on religion and turning against each other. new yorkers know better. >> reporter: for his part, bernie sanders will create this online movement into votes and motivation. he has so much support in new york city and brooklyn with young voters. he will try to turn them out. the rules may be stacked against him in new york. it is a closed primary. you simply cannot walk in that day and decide to vote. you have to be a registered voter by march 25th. if you had to change parties, it had to be done by last year. there's no question the next two and a half weeks here in new york are a tough race between the two. first that wisconsin primary next tuesday. we still have our eye on that. bernie sanders campaigning on friday. christine and boris. >> jeff zeleny, thank you. the food and drug administration relaxing the guidelines for women taking the abortion pill. the change allows the patients to use the drug later in pregnancies with fewer visits to the doctor. critics claim the white house is trying to win over female voters. the fda says this change was based on science. time for an early start on your money. asian markets mostly lower and so are europe markets. a great day for wall street yesterday. stocks added to tuesday's gains, dow added 83 points. nasdaq and s&p higher. the market started the year in meltdown mode. the market tanked by february. what is behind the turnover? jenngenera janet yellen hinted of a rate hike. one thing that could slow down the rally, the jobs report comes out tomorrow. early indications, boris, you still have strong hiring in the u.s. fascinating. you have a strong job market, but high unfavorable ratings from the economy. >> two perspectives. an imminent terror attack and charges planned. how big could this terror network be? 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france. let's go to jim bittermann live. what can you tell us about this guy? >> reporter: the one arrested in rotterdam, had 100 pounds of bullets in his apartment. french police raided the apartment of reda kriket in the paris suburbs and found five kalashnikovs and false passports and bomb making materials. some tatp, the explosive used in the bombs in brussels and paris and quite an arsenal. the paris prosecutor said that the attack that they were planning, whatever it was, they don't know what the specific target was, they were in a position to immediately attack something. they are taking this seriously. reda kriket had been charged with conspiracy. >> thank you, jim. the fbi agreed to help prosecutors in arkansas hack into an iphone and ipod that could yield crucial evidence in a murder trial. this is days after they successfully accessed the iphone from the san bernardino terrorist with the help of a third party. the mississippi state senate giving final approval to the religious freedom bill and sending it to the governor who indicated he will sign it. the bill would allow businesses to refuse service not only to gay and transgender people, but anyone with who had extramarital sex based on the owner's believes. it is probably the worst religious freedom bill to date. and calling for north carolina to recall its transgend transgend transgender bathroom bill. a petition signed by more than 80 ceos and business leaders. it requires to use the bathroom based on the sex on your birth certificate. rebecca mason, the adviser to governor robert bentley resigned on allegations the two had an affair. it comes a week after the two had audio recordings surfaced. mason was being paid from be bentley's campaign funds. in minneapolis, protests are loud, but peaceful in response to the decision not to charge two police officers who shot and killed a 24-year-old black man. jamar clarke. the officers acted in self defense after clarke got a hold of the officer's gun in a scuffle. demonstrators are angry. they say police have a history of dissorting the facts. the new york times reporting on a new study that says continued high emissions of heat trapping gasses to cause a disaster scenario to play out. climate researchers say the west arctic ice sheet to happen in decades. that could flood coastal cities by the end of the century. a powerful tornado rips through tulsa, oklahoma. seven people hurt as the twister rolled through the city. one person in critical condition. at least 4,000 people were without power. in arkansas, rescue caught on video. first responders pulling a woman from rushing water in little rock. the area hit with severe floods. she was one of three people in a car that was stuck in raging water. we can tell you everyone is okay. dramatic video. the severe weather is set to continue with 4 million people in the threat area. here is meteorologist pedram javaheri with the latest. pedram. >> good morning, christine and boris. wild wednesday. another one here for thursday. 70 plus storm reports. five tornadoes. no fatalities. you zoom out and i'll show you what transpired. 60 tornadoes in the month of march. this is the busiest in the month of march since 2012. here we go again. severe weather ingredients in place. moisture from the gulf. cool canadian air. drier air over texas. parts of alabama and mississippi with another round of rough weather here on thursday with the weather shifting off toward birmingham and out to atlanta at noon time before the storms quiet a bit. again, here are the areas of severe weather. 37 million people dealing with this. this is on a scale of one to five, a three from jackson to louisville and memphis in line for the weather this afternoon. notice a rainfall that accompanies this. in excess of 4 inches. flooding threat credit in the area. look at the temperatures across the northeast. 71 in new york city. could be about 30 degrees cooler come sunday into monday. enjoy. >> pedram, thank you. in just hours, world leaders gather in washington trying to find a way to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists. what we can expect from the critical meetings. that's next. president obama hosts dozens of world leaders this morning at the fourth and final nuclear security summit in washington. this year, a special session focused on isis. the challenge how to keep nuclear weapons out of the terrorists hands. also, how to counter the growing nuclear threat posed by the north koreans. we get more from matt rivers. he is live from beijing. >> reporter: good morning, christine. speaking on north korea for a moment, it will be one of the top issues discussed at the summit. given the testing of the nuclear device. the president of the united states set to meet in a trilateral meeting with the prime minister of japan and president of south korea to discuss next steps. he will have a bilateral meeting with president xi of china. most believe china is the country with the most ability to influence pyongyang's regime. the other topic as you mentioned is focusing on the securing of nuclear materials and specifically how it relates to terrorists groups like isis. the president will convene a special session looking how security within urban centers can be heightened as well as ways to prevent chemical and radiological weapons. that is a top, top issue at this particular summit. it is something they will meet about specifically brought into focus after the paris terrorist attacks as well as recently in belgium. plenty to talk about for the dozens of world leaders set to convene for this summit. >> matt rivers in beijing, thank you. in the middle east, bashar al assad declaring he is willing to form a new unity government with the opposition. bashara telling the draft of the new constitution could be ready within weeks. united nations secretary-general ban ki-moon calling on member nations to he is settle half a million refugees. he is not getting many takers. only the united states, sweden have pledged to take part. international aid groups have blasted the response by governments calling it a shocking lack of political and moral leadership. there's new trouble brewing for donald trump this morning for saying that women should be punished if it is outlawed. he recanted hours later, but it is not stopping the barrage of new attacks. 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"credit karma. give yourself some credit." outrage this morning. donald trump fumbling after saying if abortions are made illegal, women who get them should be punished. new opinions on both sides of the aisle. welcome back to "early start." i'm boris sanchez. >> i'm christine romans. donald trump is taking on another day of putting out fires after he took three positions on abortions in the space of a single day. in a space of hours. first on msnbc, he said if abortion were made illegal, women who got abortions should be punished. then walked back and said it is unclear. then a second statement calling for the person performing the abortion punished, not the woman. now drawing fire from both sides of the aisle, fast and furious bipartisan rage. jim acosta with details. >> reporter: christine, donald trump carved out a hard line on abortion to walk it back hours later. his comments on msnbc earlier in the day. he said women who undergo abortions should be punished if it were made illegal. >> should abortion be punished? >> people in certain parts of the republican party and conservatives say yes. i would say it is a serious problem. a problem we have to decide on. it's very -- wait. are you going to say put them in jail? the answer is that it has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> some form. >> ten states? ten years? >> i don't know. >> why not? >> i don't know. >> you take positions on everything else. >> reporter: then trump released a statement saying the doctors punished. not women. here is the statement. if congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld the legislation or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state or federal law, the doctor or person performing the illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. the woman is a victim in the case as is the life in her womb. my position has not changed. like ronald reagan, i am pro life with exceptions. the damage may be done. you don't punish women who undergo a procedure. he reunited both sides on the hot button issue. boris and christine. >> thank you, jim. trump's republican rivals had a field day denouncing the punishment of a woman who had an abortion and slamming trump for the about face on the issue. >> that comment was wrong and it really is the latest demonstration of how little donald has thought about the serious issues facing this country. i am pro life. being pro life means standing and defending the unborn, but it means defending moms and defending women and incredible gift women have to bring life into the world and donald's comments were unfortunate and wrong. i strongly disagree. >> women shouldn't be punished. you know, i think probably donald trump will figure out a way to say he didn't say it or misquoted. i don't think so. i don't think that's an appropriate response. >> the democratic candidates blasting trump's comments. bernie sanders professing astonishment. calling trump's position shameful. hillary clinton tied trump's abortion stance to the entire republican field. >> to punish for having an abortion is beyond comprehension. you know, one would say what is in donald trump's mind except we're tired of saying. that i don't know what world this person lives in. >> the choice is clear. the republicans all line up together. now maybe they aren't quite as open about it as donald trump was earlier today. they all have the same position and if you make abortion a crime, you make it illegal. then you make women and doctors criminals. >> there are two tough contests ahead for the democrats. wisconsin where hillary clinton and bernie sanders are neck and neck in the latest polls. both candidates are campaigning in new york. which clinton represented in the senate. bernie sanders is turning both states into tough battle grounds. the latest from cnn's jeff zeleny in new york. >> reporter: christine and boris, the democratic race is focusing on new york today. hillary clinton and bernie sanders taking their campaign in new york. 247 delegates are hanging in the balance in some two and a half weeks time. there are other primaries before. first is wisconsin. sanders is coming to new york to plant the flag here. hillary clinton was campaigning at the apollo theater in harlem. she will campaign for president here likes she did senator twice. >> new york is home to 20 million people. we don't all look the same, we don't all sound the same or worship the same either, but we pull together. when a candidate for president says we can solve problems by building walls and discriminate against people with religion and turn against each other, new yorkers know better. >> reporter: for his part, bernie sanders is going to try to create this online movement into votes and motivation. he has so much support in new york city and brooklyn with young voters. he will try to turn them out. the rules may be stacked against him in new york. a closed primary. that means you cannot walk in that day and decide to vote. you have to be already a registered voter by march 25th. if you wanted to change parties, it had to be done at the end of last year. new york has a closed primary system that could benefit hillary clinton. the next two weeks will be a rough race. first that wisconsin primary next tuesday. we still have our eye on that. hillary clinton will make one more stop there before tuesday as well. christine and boris. jeff zeleny, thank you. >> a bit of medical news. the fda relaxing the guidelines for women taking the abortion pill. the change allows patients to use the drug later in the pregnancies and with fewer visits to the doctor. critics call the move politically motivated claiming the white house is trying to win over female voters. the fda says this change was based on science. time for an early start on your money. not a good start to the final trading day for stocks this year. look at asian markets. european markets down. it was a great day yesterday for wall street. stocks added to tuesday's gain. dow with 83 points. the markets started the year in meltdown mode. now a comeback. remember the market tanked more than 10% by early february. is chipotle opening a burger restaurant? the company filed a trademark request for better burger. chipotle is invested in chop house which serves southeast asian food. the company interested in applying the restaurant model to other food. for now, its immediate focus is reviving the burrito chain. the stock is down 30% after the food safety scandals. new information on a foiled terrorist plot in paris. arsenal of weapons found in an apartment in europe. plagued of new attacks next. new information this morning about a high profile terror arrest in the netherlands. 32-year-old french citizen taken into custody in rotterdam. he is linked to reda kriket for allegedly plotting an attacks against france. let's get the latest from correspondent jim bittermann. jim, what do we know about the french citizen arrested? >> reporter: boris, apparently when the dutch authorities moved in on his apartment, according to media reports, they found a cache of bullets. 7.62 bullets for kalashnikov rifles. 6,000 rounds according to media reports. that was immediately linked to the suspect here and now charged in paris, reda kriket, who when they searched his apartment, found five kalashnikov machine guns and bomb making materials. the two men, apparently, according to police reports, spent some time in 2014 and 2015 in syria. they're both known as petty criminals before that. they went through a period of radicalization and in syria for some time together. in any case, the prosecutor here says that they were plotting some kind of attack. he doesn't know what the target was, but says it was imminent. the things they had, including the explosive tatp which was used in brussels attacks and the paris attacks. that explosive was found in the apartment as well. something that was in preparation. what it is is unknown. >> jim, i have to ask after the brussels attacks, there are two unidentified suspects on the run. the so-called man in the white hat. are there any updates on the whereabouts of the suspects? >> reporter: no, not at all. police still searching for them everywhere. i think one of the brussels attacks which pointed to authorities is how elusive people can be. for instance, the case where salah abdeslam, he came back from turkey. authorities were alerted to the fact that he was on the way back and didn't take action. it's the thing that i think has authorities a little bit alarmed that people can slip around easily. they are doing more to prevent it. it is difficult to track these folks down. >> very difficult task. jim, thank you. the fbi agreed to help prosecutors in arkansas hack into an iphone and ipod that could yield critical evidence in a murder trial. the decision days after the agency successfully accessed the iphone used by san bernardino terror suspect syed rizwan farook with the help of a third party. authorities in arkansas are hoping to find evidence on two devices owned by two of the four suspects in the murder of a little rock couple last july. mississippi senate giving final approval to the so-called religious freedom bill. the bill would allow businesses to refuse service not only to gay and transgender people, but also anyone who had extramarital sex that's based on the business owner's beliefs. the gay rights advocate calls it the worst bill to date. and the transgender bathroom bill is the worst in its state's history. this letter is signed by 80 ceos. it requires people to use bathrooms and other facilities matching the sex on their birth certificate. rebecca mason, a senior adviser to the alabama governor robert bentley has resigned over the two having an affair. this comes after audio recordings surfaced. bentley denied the affair. he says he has no intention of resigning. mason was paid from his campaign funds and she plans now focus her attention on her family. the protest loud, but peaceful in the decision not to charge two police officers who shot and killed a 24-year-old black man jamar clark. the police officers acted in self defense after a scuffle. demonstrators took to the streets and said police have a history of distorting the facts. scientists sounds the alarm of global warming. "new york times" says heat trapping gasses could cause a disaster scenario to play out sooner than predicted. climate researchers say the ice sheet could disintegrate within decades. wait until you see this pictures. powerful tornado through tulsa, oklahoma. at least seven people hurt. the twister roared through the city. one person in critical condition. roads and buildings were damaged. 4,000 people without power. watch this video out of arkansas. a rescue caught on camera. you can see first responders pulling this woman from rushing water in little rock. the area was hit with severe floods. she was one of three people inside a car that got stuck in raging water. this severe weather will continue today with more than 7 million people in the highest threat area. let's bring in meteorologist pedram javaheri for the very latest. >> boris and christine, good morning. another day where we have the severe weather threat pretty high across the expansive area. 37.5 million people in the threat zone. 7.5 million of them in jackson and memphis and louisville where damaging winds and large hail. you cannot rule out tornadoes. we had severe weather northeast of tulsa. spawned four reports of tornadoes across that region. one across arkansas. 60 in total in march 2016. that is just below the climatological norm. parts of mississippi have seen flash flooding in the early morning hours. parts of louisiana and tennessee. 3 inches hav come down. additional inches could come down over alabama and georgia throughout the morning hours. in total, 4 to 6 inches on the soil moisture that is saturated. 99% of normal across the south. we have the flood watch in place. 19.5 million people under the flood watch into the early morning hours. the temperatures very mild and widespread. 65 in chicago. 80s in little rock. we have major changes in the forecast from sunday into monday. april comes in on a frigid note. look at new york city. leave you with the forecast which takes from 73 to 42. >> i don't like what he has to deliver. >> dramatic drop. >> it is like covering the stock market. i don't like that. thanks. should john oliver be thanking donald trump? we get an early start on your money next. president obama hosting dozens of world leaders this morning at the fourth and final nuclear security summit in washington. this special session has focused on isis. the challenge is how to keep nuclear weapons out of the terrorists hands and also how to counter the growing nuclear threat posed by north korea. we have more from matt rivers based in beijing. matt, good morning to you. at the top of the agenda is isis. no indication that they have accessed to nuclear material. we have seen them use crude chemical weapons before. how will world leaders stop them from getting the weapons needed to create nuclear weapons? >> reporter: that is the big question for the summit. to have those discussions, boris, president obama holding a special session talking about securing nuclear material to make sure it does not end up in the hands of terrorist groups like isis. he will talk about increasing urban center security. and big cities increasing security in those cities. also how to make sure that a group like isis cannot obtain chemical and nuclear weapons. that came into the sharper focus last month when during the course of the investigation into the november terrorist attacks in paris. investigators discovered video footage of the top belgian official in the apartment of one of the suspected militants. you mentioned north korea. something that will be talked about when president obama meets with three separate leaders about that issue. he is set to meet with the japan prime minister and south korean president and one-on-one with the chinese president, that is president xi jinping. that is china with the unique ability to influence pyongyang and the kim jong un leadership. >> matt rivers, thank you. bashar al assad declaring he is willing to form a new unity government which includes members of the opposition. assad telling a russian news agency a draft it could be ready within weeks. the u.s. says a plan for the syrian government with assad remaining in power is a non starter. secretary-general ban ki-moon is calling on nations to resettle the refugees. united states and italy and sweden have pledged to take part. the u.n. is hoping to settle 480,000 refugees by 2018. international aid groups are calling it a quote shocking lack of political and moral leadership. time for an early start on your money. asian markets mixed. europe markets turned down a bit right now. yesterday's stocks added to tuesday's gain. the dow added 83 points. s&p 500 and nasdaq closing higher. the market started the year in meltdown mode. if you bought that meltdown, you have seen a comeback. what is behind the turn around? janet yellen hinted a rate hike is off the table. oil prices are rising. fears of a recession in china are overblown. the jobs report comes out tomorrow. looking for strong jobs growth there. americans are spending more, but earning less. that's according to a new study by the pew charitable trust. it is up 25% since 1996. median household income is almost the same as 1996. income never recovered from the great recession. median family income is about the same. it is one of the reasons primary voters are angry. american voters are left behind by the status quo politicians and super rich. even john oliver is benefitting from the donald trump. the one-month old trump takedown is the most popular episode in the history of hbo. the donald drumpf episode has more than 23 million views on youtube. almost double oliver's second most viewed video. this is the most viewed piece of hbo content in history. this british comedian takedown. >> it is going viral. i was at a trump rally two weeks ago. many had signs that said takedown donald drumpf. >> it's catching on. >> "early start" continues now. donald trump's newest controversy. saying if abortion is illegal, women who get them should be punished. he recanted, but this morning, he is taking heat from both sides of the aisle. welcome to "early start." i'm boris sanchez. >> i'm christine romans. last day of the month and quarter. donald trump's campaign facing fire for another issue. taking three positions on abortion in a single day. saying first on msnbc, if abortion were
excited about trump realizes, now it might be better to risk alienating trump and losing supporters than soldier forward with his enormous baggage. we've been here before. it's something that something happens to change everything, like it's done so many times and it doesn't. yes we realize we're making this point on the even of april fools' day. here's why this could be the tipping point. for nearly ten months the republican party has been bent, twisted stressed to maximum breaking point thanks to the weight of trump's call them controversies. these are just a few of the things trump has said which either he had to walk back or earned him swift enunciation within his own party. start with going after john mccain's war record, saying he's not a war hero, he was a war hero because he's captured. einsulted carly fiorina, say look at that face, she's a woman, i'm not supposed to say bad things. er toer to fur, i would bring back waterboarding. then more hot water he'd order the military to carry out potentially illegal orders, what i say to do as i tell them, they'll do as i tell them. comments about minorities and religion. called for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states temporarily, he say thinks islam hates america, talking about using nuclear weapons and not ruling out using them in europe. he told chris matthews, i'm not going to take it off the table. that brings it's to the latest firestorm over punishing women who seek if abortion became illegal which he walked back in two subsequent statements. we didn't mention the arrest his campaign manager, trump's comments about mexican immigrants, blood feud with megan kelly, comments about the size of his hands. put it together and take a look at a sampling of how members of his own party have reacted to his candidacy under these conditions. >> donald trump is a narcissist and he's an ego maniac. >> he's backing a jackass. a jackass. >> he's the kim dkardashian of politics. >> donald trump is a delusional narcissist and orange-faced wind bag. >> donald trump's candidacy is a cancer on conservatism it must be diagnosed, excised and discarded. >> donald trump is a phony, a fraud. his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. >> he is a con artist. guys we have a con artist as the front-runner in the republican party. >> donald trump would be a disaster as the nominee. >> so that leads uso the gop's worries about collateral damage. those were just once and future presidential candidates. republicans running down ballot believe they'll be weighed down by trump's baggage. democrats trying to tie vulnerable republicans like barbara comstock of virginia or senator kelly ayotte, mark kick, pat toomey, tying to tie trump's comments about women and abortion. this is march, my friends. the front page of today's "the washington post" looks like a nightmare scenario for the gop. look at how republicans could lose the house. where they hold a pretty large advantage. with trump at the top of the ticket. and the university of virginia center for politics debuted its first national scorecard in a head-to-head matchup between trump and clinton. having hillary clinton winning more electoral votes than barack obama in either 2008 or 2012. project her at 347. they couldn't come up with a single toss-up state. seeing trump's rivals to break the glass emergency scenarios where they try to turn their back on the party and rnc if he's the nominee. >> i don't make a habit out of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my family. >> i have two 16 twin daughters and whenever i say if he happened to be the nominee i would have to tell them why i would endorse him if i did. so i have my two daughters. >> then brace yourself, happy warrior, john kasich is on the war path against trump. this morning he held a press conference in new york where he ran through point by point attack on trump calling him unprepared to control a nuclear arsenal as commander in chief. we're expecting kasich to hold his second press conference of the day as he attempts to sharpen attacks on trump. remember, he, for months, said he would not be that guy. he's changed his tune over last 48 hours. we'll take you there when it begins. which leads us to the most intriguing news of the day. with tensions boiling over in the party, trump held a meeting with the rnc today in washington. cameras briefly spotted him arriving at back door and roughly, 45 minutes later, left with a wave to our cameras and tweeted this, quote, just had a very nice meeting with rance priebus and the gop, looking forward to bringing the party together, and it will happen! rnc characterized the meeting as, quote, productive conversation about the state of the race. and a trump aide told john harwood that priebus and trump discussed the upcoming election, election financing and general election activities. they did not discuss trump's comments about dumping the rnc's loyalty pledge nor what he said about abortion. for more, let me go to luke russert from outside rnc headquarters. he was staking it out all day. one way to tie up capitol hill. half of the city tied up with the nuclear summit. your side of the city tied up by the trump motorcade. >> reporter: pretty wild stuff, chuck. we knew that donald trump was going to be in washington, d.c., today. that news broke in the morning, presumably to have meetings pertaining to foreign policy. those occurred over at trump hotel being built. then a rumor came about that he was going to come to rnc. the rnc's a stone's throw away from capitol hill. we went over here, staked him out for a few hours. he came through, saw that big mound of blond hair through the tint of suv and he pulled in. he had a one-hour meeting with rance priebus, the chairman of the rnc, the rnc releasing a statement said that he had a positive discussion about the current state of the race and chairman priebus will be reaching out to every candidate who is remaining, who wants to have these type of discussions. john harwood heard from the trump camp, a conversation was mainly about delegates. delegate rules at the rnc convention in cleveland coming up in july and how the allocation process would move forward. i can report from communications with rnc official that this meeting was in fact scheduled last week, it was originally supposed to be ten minutes and ballooned into an hour, party unity also on the docket. so, a lot of things being discussed, presumably one would think that maybe rance priebus would suggest tone down the rhetoric to donald trump because, as you mentioned, chuck, in he are worried about that building behind me about his effect on down ballot races, the senate, the house in play. if you look at projections. but donald trump showing face here and for all accounts at least on the surface, positive how the meeting was described. >> all right. luke, appreciate it. he had another meeting he was going to do foreign policy advisers as well. luke russert, thank you. my next guest at center of the trump storm as a candidate in the republican primary before he dropped out. bob j. jindal slammed trump as narcissist and ego maniac in september. he told us two weeks ago he wasn't ready to dump trump just yet. >> i am going to be supporting the republican nominee. i think it's important -- >> even if it's donald trump? >> the next president -- even if it's donald trump. i hope it's not him. he's still not my favorite. that don't mean i've changed my tune since september. >> but you just -- well, we're going to ask him again. former louisiana governor and republican presidential candidate, bobby jindal joins me now. welcome back an bit of a satellite delay. i'll try to cover up for that. let me start with what you said two weeks ago to me, have you changed your tune? >> i have not, chuck. thank you for having me back. you used many great analogies is, but hopefully this is the week donald trump jumps the shark. i don't know if viewers remember fondy jumping the shark. the ridiculous comments about abortion, campaign manager getting arrested. who knows. he seems to bounce back from all of these things. i'm not a fan of donald trump. there's still time to beat him. i'm going to support my party's nominee. i don't think we can afford hillary clinton in office. one thing that donald trump can do. he'll never be able to convince somebody like me in the time he's got left he's a conservative. he won't convince somebody like me who is a serious policy guy. what he can start doing is saying who are the types of people he'd put around him, who would he appoint as secretary of defense, secretary of state. show us he's willing to tap trusted, principled conservatives. you're never going to convert people like me into being fans of donald trump. at least show people he'll have real conservatives around him. >> given you're the former head of the louisiana republican party, essentially, as a former governor, let me ask you about -- we know some of the meeting today with trump has to do with and the fact that i think they were blindsided is not the right word, unprepared how the delegate selection process work. are you comfortable with the fact that your home state party is awarding more delegates to candidate that came in second rather than the candidate that won the state primary? >> sure. let look at what happened. trump got 40% of votes in louisiana. he'll get 40% of the delegates. what happened, for example, five delegates committed to marco rubio. cruz was able to go and convince them, now that rubio's no longer running, to switch their support to him. there were five uncommitted delegates. his folks were able to convince them to switch the support to cruz. frankly, cruz outworked, outorganized donald trump on the ground here reality is rules were in place before donald trump was a candidate. i don't think it's fair. i've said it before on your show as well, i don't think it's fair to break or change rules to stop donald trump. i don't think it's fair to break or change rules to elect donald trump either. i'm for making rules clearer, fairer, more transparent at the state, at the national level. but you don't change rules in the middle of the process. and this idea that donald trump's going to sue the party is nonsense. he's not going to sue them like he's not suing ted cruz. he threatened to sue ted cruz based on his eligibility to run. if he wants to win, if he wants to be nominee, he needs to stop threatening people, stop whining, stop trying to change the rules and go and work. build a majority, attract people originally supporting other candidates to join your cause. he hasn't been able to do that yet. if he wants to win, that's what he's got to do. >> are you comfortable with the idea, the way the rules work, certainly the way the rules are in the rnc, le could be the guy that gets the most votes during the primaries the guy that has the most delegates earned through the primary process but short of what he needs. are you comfortable if he doesn't get the nomination? rules say that somebody once you get to the second, third, fourth and rules don't get written for how that election is conducted until after the primary process. are you comfortable if it's somehow makes it so trufrm trump doesn't win? what do you tell his voters if he's the leading delegate guy going in but comes out without the nomination? >> a couple of things. recalls say you have to have a majority, not plurality. if they wanted a candidate with plurality they would have written the rules differently. if that's the case, there's time to beat them, if that happens, it's important that party leaders not rig the process, not try to get behind closed doors and select an anointed candidate. they don't -- here's the problem with and the rnc rules. look at rules in place. rules were written to help protect mitt romney, fight the last battle. that's why it makes sense to rewrite them after this contest is over. it's not just a republican problem. on the democratic side you've got superdelegates, bernie sanders saying he can win new hampshire by 20 and didn't get more delegates than hillary clinton. he's rightfully pointing out their process isn't fair. i'm all for changing rules and making it transparent and giving voters more of a direct say but do it after not in the middle of the process. it's like complaining in the middle of a football game. you can't change the rules. . you can change the rules after the season. my party pay attention to voters. they are frustrated. yes, mad at obama, yes mad at liberal policies, mad at conservatives, mad at republicans for not doing to say what they're going to do. it would be a mistake for the party to ignore the frustration that donald trump tapped into. >> let me ask you, are you comfortable using every fair rule that is on the books, at the rnc, doing whatever it takes to prevent trump as the nominee has long as you do it within the rules? >> sure. look, it's -- >> is that what you want to see done? do whatever it takes, you know, in a fair way to stop him? that is your goal? >> a couple of things. politics -- what was the old saying from the movie, no crying in baseball. there's no cry in politics. we're going nominate somebody we want to be leader of the free world, president of the united states. if donald trump wants the nomination he needs to build a coalition, attract support. i'm not a fan of donald trump, i don't think he's a conservative. i think he would have the toughest time winning in november as our nominee. i prefer to see somebody else as our nominee. other candidates are able to play by the rules and fight harder, work harder, outorganize him and win, i think the ideal situation someone gets votes to get delegates before the convention. but if nobody has majority, i'm fine if the candidate that's able to put together that coalition according to rules and does it in a fair, transparent way, absolutely. i hope they're a conversation. >> do you think the nominee if it's not trump should be somebody who ran? that it shouldn't come from somebody -- this idea of a paul ryan? you comfortable with that? >> no, look, i like paul, we're friends. i -- i have a lot of respect for paul. but i think it's like -- it's a great hypothetical situation. it's most likely going to be somebody running. most likely one of the three guys still running now. be honest. there's hypothetical situations if somebody's dropped out, getting back in most likely one of the three still running is going to be our nominee. >> you're not going to endorse between cruz and kasich? >> no. look, i endorsed myself first, i endorsed rubio second. my endorsement is not doing a lot of good for anybody now. i'm going to support the nominee. i'm not endorsing donald trump. i'm not encouraging anybody to vote for donald trump. i don't want it to be donald trump. you knowed a snippet of the press conference, the speech i gave in september, it went longer than that. i got some of the harshest rhetoric. i not one of these changing my tune. >> would you serve in a donald trump administration if he asked you? you said you're curious to see, is there any scenario you would be serving under president trump? >> he's not going to ask me after everything i've said. i don't want a job in the next administration period. >> you would not return that phone call? >> i don't -- i made it very clear, i don't have respect for him as a conservative. i don't like his policies. i don't like his demeanor. he's not calling me. that's an easy thing to say. that's clearly -- i'm not looking for a job in the next administration. i'm worried about ply country. i am very, very interested there being ai constitution supporting of the supreme court. i think chances of donald trump doing that aren't great. the chances of hillary clinton doing that are zero. at least with donald trump 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on tuesday, please join me in supporting ted cruz, the only conservative who could beat hillary clinton and reignite america's promise. >> trump could have been tailor made for wisconsin. stay with a high population of working class and small town conservatives but he's struggling there. donald trump held steady at 30% since february. his opponents have seen double digit gains since the field narrowed cruz gone from trailing trump to leading him by ten points as trump's number hasn't moved trump does better where the conversation divisions are deep enough to exploit. that might not be the case in wisconsin. the conservative movement is happy in wisconsin. a pro-donald trump super pac trying to give him help, whether he wants it or not. starts in wisconsin, the great america pac running a new ad aimed at women. >> i get grief when i say i'm voting for donald trump. but i want to protect my family. paris, san bernardino, brussels, i want a president that will keep us safe. we need to control our borders and stop letting in dangerous people. trump will do that and ted cruz, he wanted to let in more syrian refugees and give amnesty to illegal immigrants. >> for more on what's going on in wisconsin republican politics joined by the conservative gate keeper 0 of wisconsin radio, charlie sykes who interviewed ted cruz today, had trump earlier. welcome. >> good to be with you. >> let me start with this. why on one hand when you look at rules of wisconsin's primary voting, open primary, anybody can vote on either side, that's tailor made for trump in the past. good for him in michigan. why is it that wisconsin conservatives seem to be rejecting trump at a greater number than, say, michigan conservatives did? >> maybe we have better b.s. meters here. the conversation voters in wisconsin, we're battle tested. we have been through the fire going back to 2010, the fight over act so 10, recall of governor walker. a group of conservative voters engage, savvy, locked in. and frankly, recognize a natural conservative versus a fake conservative. that's part of the difference. we do have a different culture in wisconsin. i tried to tell mr. trump that on monday where we value things like civility, decency, rationality, reasonableness, none of which characterized donald trump's cam pine here. he's not a very good fit. he's got a solid bloc, 30% but 70% of wisconsin republicans anti-trump and they're coalescing, but they're not moving and he's not adding to his base. >> if you're a good watch or of wisconsin politics, of the three candidates left whovg would have the best chance at carrying wisconsin against hillary clinton? >> well, the numbers would suggest that john kasich does but that's without negative attention. most people don't know much about john kasich. hillary clinton is vulnerable here. there's a lack of enthusiasm. but that poll sows that ted cruz runs even. one thing that's obvious is wisconsinites really don't like donald trump. donald trump is not going to win in wisconsin. he has a 70% disapproval rating in wisconsin, and among women, that's interesting, running an ad targeting women. that's where he's got the problem. what's draving his numbers in wisconsin are conservative republican women who look at donald trump and they are rappel by the way he treats women. 77%. >> i would mirror what we nationally in our poll had it at 70%, including 40% of republican women with a negative rating. >> let me ask you this, though, is ted cruz too conservative to win the state? >> i don't know. ted cruz is basic willy the consensus candidate right now among conservatives in wisconsin who understand that if we're going to be a fire wall of rationality if we stop donald trump from getting to 1237 at convention, then he's going to have to be stopped in wisconsin and the only candidate who can stop the move in wisconsin is ted cruz. that's interesting in wisconsin. he may not have been a natural fit in wisconsin but you have a lot of former walker supporters, rubio supporters sucking it up and saying we've got to swallow, we understand exactly the state of play here. voters here are very, very savvy. and i think they're making a tactical decision. >> it's interesting the establishment, whatever -- when you refer to establishment of the republican party, in wisconsin, boy, you guys are providing establishmenting walker, ryan, rance priebus, right? so, should we view a donald trump losing in wisconsin as sort of the revenge of the establishment? >> no. it's the mainstream conservatives who finally woke up. this is going to be the first state where he doesn't have the air cover that they got from some of the conservative national talk hoe hos show hostt the end one in wus which but every major talk show host in wisconsin is anti-trump. you have an informed and engaged electorate told about donald trump where he has been held accountable for his actions and for his inactions and his buffoonery. what you're going to see is when conservatives actually get that picture, they're going to vote for somebody else. in my area, in southeastern wisconsin, donald trump is, i think he had an approval rating of something like 25, 26% of the vote. and that's a result of the fact that he's been exposed for months and months and months by people who actually know what a real conservative looks like because here in wisconsin we have actual conservatives. >> it's interesting you say that. i had a veteran consultant, a source of mine who has done a lot of races in wisconsin and said wisconsin talk radio is unique, you don't pair it the national talk radio conservative guys. it's not a local guy's pa parretting. do you believe the national talk radio leaders have enabled trump too much? i'm not going to ask you to name names. i know that becomes a fight. >> no, no, i'm not going to name the names of any of the guy whose have sold out the values and become fan boys like sean hannity, i wouldn't name a name. but there is -- 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>> i am not taking cards off the table. >> meeting and trump's remarks comes as president obama kicks off two-day nuclear summit with international leaders in d.c. secretary of energy responded to trump today when speaking to my colleague andrea mitchell this afternoon on msnbc. >> to suggest that nuclear weapons are not to be used only at least initially and preferably always as a deterrent to their use, i think is not a very responsible approach. secondly, in terms of the spread of nuclear weapons further, once again, it's a terrible idea, to put it bluntly. i'm afraid this kind of talk in an election is just bluntly irresponsible and is detrimental to our and all of our allies security posture. >> have you heard from allies about this? >> we have heard many comments about many statements made in this campaign. >> i will take that as a yes. >> joining me now, ambassador, former ambassador, wendy sherman, senior counselor at allbright group. wendy sherman is also a hillary clinton support somewhere very involved in cutting the iran deal. nice to see you. >> good to be with you. >> let me start big picture here. give us -- there is an initial nuclear posture the tcountry ha, what is it. >> it's interesting as secretary clinton said, we see donald trump ad-libbing about nuclear weapons the same time president obama, secretary moniz meeting with 50 leaders, trying to reduce the stockpile of weaponser reduce the amount of material gotten by a terrorist, secure borders with radioactive detectors doing all of the things we need to do. we have nuclear weapons as a deterrent. we don't have a policy where we're going to go out and offensively use nuclear weapons. we use them in response, if needed. but it's a deterrence. and one of the reasons president obama got the nobel peace prize, he hopes, make not in his life, we get to zero nuclear weapons. >> donald trump criticized for being too off the cuff on the nuclear thing. isn't it the posture of any president who always says i'm never going to take anything off the table? i mean, in fairness to him, he's been criticized for that one remark i've heard plenty of presidents say i don't take anything off the table. >> the problem with mr. trump is that he believes everything is like the art of a deal of a business transaction about building a building. international affairs in the role of the commander in chief is a much more consequential, with all due respect to developers -- my father was in real estate -- with all due respect to businessmen it's complicated, it involves the world's security, it involves whether the world is going to blow up, it's consequential. he showed in those comments he's not ready to be commander in chief. he says whatever comes off of the top of his head, whether about nato, nuclear weapons, or what our posture is in the world. pew came out with a new poll, 60% of the american people believe the world does better when we are involve. we have a responsibility as the last remaining super power to lead in this world with others helping us out, not all on our own but to lead. >> i want to stick with nuclear. three countries that i think were concerned could decide to go out on their own to get weapons, one saudi arabia, japan, south korea. set trump aside for a second. how concerned are you those three will pursue a nuclear strategy? >> i don't believe they will pursue a nuclear strategy. they all want to know they could have one if they wanted one and they use it and put it out sort of in the ether as if this say, be careful we may go down this road. >> using it to get our attention. >> using it to get our attention, the world's attention. they're using it as a deterrent to others who think they may attack them. one of the things that we did, the reason why the iran fluke deal was so important, why the president believed that we should never allow iran to obtain nuclear weapons is because if iran had a nuclear weapon they could project enormous power into the middle east and act as a deterrent against our actions and actions of israel and our partners in the gulf region and in the world at large. >> is it important for either this president or the next president to declare our middle eastern allies as part of the american nuclear umbrella. >> a discussion that's been ongoing and i suspect it will continue to be discussed. >> you're an outsider here. is it something that should be considered? >> i think we should talk about how we can give people the kind of back stop that they're looking for. president obama, secretary kerry, secretary clinton be have met with the gulf over the years to try to say, what do you need to make sure that you feel secure? there are many ways to do that. we've done some of the things necessary. i think today's meeting is important. out of the meeting happening in the nuclear security summit, we're going to have an oning contact group to try to keep moving in the direction that we need. >> is this summit dead after president obama leaves office. >> this is a big concern. >> it doesn't look like there's any motivation to do this after he leaves. where is secretary clinton on this? are you advising her to keep it up. >> i think it would be great to keep it up personally. what they have done is create a nuclear security contact group of high level officials who will follow up on what's come out. they've put together five action plans to make sure action plans happen. if that occurs, that will be a very good thing because the follow-up matters. we've done 50% of the reduction of materials we're afraid of that terrorists could get hold of, but we've got to get to 100%. >> wendy sherman, thanks very much. ahead on the ws, u.s. women's soccer players look to even the paying field. come on, we wanted to do that one. john kasich's pizza problem. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn because you can't beat zero heartburn! ahhh the sweet taste of victory! prilosec otc. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. some say "free the whales." for them, nothing else is acceptable. but nothing could be worse for the whales. most of the orcas at seaworld were born here. sending them into the wild wouldn't be noble. it could be fatal. when they freed keiko, the killer whale of movie fame, the effort was a failure and he perished. but we also understand that times have changed. today, people are concerned about the world's largest animals like never before. so we too must change. that's why the orcas in our care will be the last generation at seaworld. there will be no more breeding. we're also phasing out orca theatrical shows. they'll continue to receive the highest standard of care available anywhere. and guests can come to see them simply being their majestic selves. inspiring the next generation of people to love them as you do. don't let dust and allergies get and life's beautiful moments. with flonase allergy relief, they wont. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. flonase changes everything. >> i know i'm going to get good pizza when this is over. that's what i know. that's more important. >> that's the pandering we wanted to hear. >> maybe hot sausage, what do you think? 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>> absolutely. >> maybe trump delegates. >> that's right. i do think more people were brought into the party, because so many candidates in a state like ohio, you look at a state like south carolina, they're going to have to re-visit to the number of delegates trump was allocated, because now he says he is breaking the loyalty pledge. >> the pledge was mandated. doug, let me go to you, because it seems hillary clinton is now loving the idea of running against donald trump. a lot of other democrats are embracing this. there had been a fear factor. you had the david ploughs in the world. where are you? >> one thing that has happened in this race. republicans six months wanted to national lies at the senate and house levels. they thought hillary clinton would be deeply vulnerable, strong guy at the top of the ticket, that the president might not be that popular, national security would be an issue, now they've moved on. now you hear senate republicans localizing the election, because donald trump is to toxic. now democrats see trump as a guy that not only puts the senate in play, maybe puts states like arizona, you have states like arizona, potentially, there is one over i'm blanking on. >> georgia. >> georgia, and then in the house, it's potentially in play. >> you guys haven't recruited anybody. i mean, right? the deadline passed in the last state. >> that's not exactly true. we have candidates, and no, we do have candidates. >> it could have been better, had you known, right? >> well, look, i think they're okay with the recruits. what is trump going to say today. it takes them off message. this idea they're going to have a centralized unified message. >> okay, so i had a former senator say to me yesterday, a republican senator, so at these delegation meetings, in the week before, the delegates will get individual phone calls from senator toomey, congress womb comstock and say trump is going to kill me. remember how hard you worked for me door-to-door. >> and remember the checks that you've written. >> right. that will have an impact. >> i talked to the one rubio delegate from alabama yesterday. it's a dentist in huntsville. he's worried about how the process works out. is he still pledged to rubio if rubio drops out. >> he doesn't know. >> so the delegates don't know the rules. >> he already started getting phone calls from people, from other campaigns. >> so sarah, the thumbnail that they talk about look at the house, look at the senate, will it have an impact on, you know, the paul reinyans of the world,o has to stay neutral, maybe publicly they stay neutral, but you know what, you have to do what it takes. >> i think this last week has done more than anything they could have done. this was a disastrous week for donald trump. massive unpreki massive unprepredictable. >> it has been dissas strous, lowered the approval rating and the imagine of the republican party. >> except, if it leads to a contested convention, if we don't end up with donald trump, we will not, then the republican is in a strong place. >> weirdly enough. >> with ted cruz? >> i would love -- >> only because of the relief of no trump that some republican also have -- >> ted cruz isn't much better. >> thank you all. we'll maybe test that theory, right, in the fall. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." 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it is monday, april 4th. there is a battle going down to the wire with donald trump and ted cruz. both campaigning across the state. the latest poll shows cruz leading trump by ten points, but cruz picked up victories in colorado. he won the first six delegates. they were chosen in a week long selection process. in north dakota, the cruz team claims it did well for the convention for cleveland. today, though, all about wisconsin where cruz win could alter momentum of the republican race. cnn's sunlen serfaty has more from green bay. >> reporter: good morning, christine and john. the cruz campaign hit the ground hard in wisconsin dispatching heidi, carly fiorina and governor scott walker all barnstorming the state. the cruz campaign manager declaring an all hands on deck in the final 24 hours before voting starts in wisconsin tomorrow. cruz for his part, the senator has been projecting confidence. he has been predicting he will get most if not all of the delegates tomorrow night. on the stump here in green bay, he told the crowd playing up the importance of the moment. saying it will be a decision point resonating across the country beyond here in wisconsin. the senator seemed to get reflective on the state of the race and all that has transpired. >> this has been quite the election cycle. hadn't been boring. there were all sorts of things a year ago someone said you would see. >> reporter: and there's a notable strategy shift in wisconsin for the cruz campaign. out with the first negative tv ad for john kasich. this is something they have been calling him a spoiler. this suggests some concern on their level about what role he might play tomorrow night. christine and john. >> sunlen, thank you. the stakes are high for donald trump in wisconsin. losing there would make it harder for him to clinch the nomination before the republican convention. he is predicting he will win a state. in a rally last night, he talked about the man beating him in the polls. >> lying ted cruz, he comes in bible high. i'm lying ted cruz, i put the bible down and i start to lie. he's a dirty rotten on cheat. >> like cruz, trump took aim at john kasich. cnn's jeremy diamond was there. >> reporter: good morning, john and christine. with 48 hours until wisconsin, donald trump stumping in wisconsin. he was of course hitting issues on the campaign trail. he devoted a bit of time to hitting ohio governor john kasich. that is unusual for donald trump as far as stumping in wisconsin. he is focused the brunt of his fire on senator cruz. last night, donald trump talking about john kasich. calling him a nasty guy. with kasich, it will be harder for him to reach the 1,237 delegate threshold before the convention. >> kasich is now 1 for 30. 1 for 30 or 1 for 29? he is 1 for 30. it is good if he gets out. i don't want him in. >> reporter: all this comes as the delegate fight across the country is coming into focus. with donald trump acknowledging putting a team in place to really bring the delegates into the fold and get delegates he needs in case this goes to an open convention. donald trump now lagging in the polls in wisconsin hoping to make up ground. he'll stump all day today and hoping to make up that ground. john and christine. >> thanks, jeremy. the head of the republican party says that trump backing out of his pledge to support the party's eventual nominee could hurt him with delegates. the chairman reince priebus says this could make it harder to quote get people to fall in line for him. chairman priebus says if there is a contested convention, he doesn't believe the convention will pick a candidate who did not run in the primary. someone like house speaker paul ryan. >> if anything like that were to happen, which is highly unlikely, i think our candidate is someone who is running. that's obvious. number two, if something like that were remotely possible, that candidate would actually have to have a floor operation and actual campaign going on with the delegates to make something like that possible. paul's not going to do that. >> all right. on the democratic side, hillary clinton and bernie sanders locked in debate over their next debate. both of them campaigning over the weekend in wisconsin where sanders holds an edge in the latest polls. they are looking ahead to the next big prize. new york. clinton campaigns in the state today. april 19th primary in new york marks the nearing deadline for that next debate. cnn's chris frates has details. >> reporter: good morning. the dispute over when hillary clinton and bernie sanders debate in new york exploded on the campaign trail this weekend with the sanders and clinton camps trading barbs over who was to blame. it started saturday when the clinton campaign offered the sanders campaign three dates. april 4th, 14th and 15th. all to be rejected. the sanders campaign offering that the 4th was terrible with the ncaa tournament finals. nobody would pay attention to politics. not to mention the big primary is the next day. on the 15th, they did not like the idea doing a morning debate on the networks. that left the 14th. sanders telling cnn that he has a big rally planned and the sanders campaign countering with four or five dates of their own. no word from the clinton campaign. take a listen to how bernie sanders and hillary clinton talked about these debates. >> i'm confident there will be. i'm not the one negotiating it. this is going on between campaigns. i know my campaign has been really trying to get a time that senator sanders would agree with. >> i think we need to look at the maximum viewing audience. anytime and any venue that works that has that viewing audience will be good. we're looking at a lot of options right now. i think at the end of the day, george, we will have a time and place that will be, i suspect, a very spirited debate. >> reporter: so both bernie sanders and hillary clinton want to debate. sanders campaign manager jeff weaver told me he believes this dispute will be settled fairly soon. it's a very big and important thing for bernie sanders. he is expected to do well tomorrow in wisconsin. he needs delegates and move to new york and upset hillary clinton in her adopted home state. there are about 250 delegates at stake in new york. second to california. bernie sanders looking for the upset there. when this debate is and where it airs is a big deal. we will continue to watch that as bernie sanders continues to try to close the gap on hillary clinton. john and christine. >> chris, thanks for that. donald trump making two sensational economic claims in an interview with the washington post. first, trump says he would erase the country's $19 trillion debt by the end of his second term. the math doesn't add up. it would require the u.s. to pay off $2 trillion a year. the annual budget is $4 trillion for the current fiscal year. economists say the negotiations can start a trade war and cause a recession in the u.s. and hurt economic growth and receipts into the federal government. speaking of recessions, trump says the country is head for a massive recession and the economy is sitting on a bubble. experts put a chance of recession, garden variety, at 20% in the next year. despite worries about the global economy. job creation is strong. americans are spending money. his other claim, terrible time to invest in the stock market. global is trading mixed around the world. >> the trump effect. >> zero trade effect. >> he wants to lower taxes and end a $19 trillion debt in eight years. it's just, you know, the budget crunchers say it is impossible. >> someone would have done it already. two killed. dozens injured in the amtrak derailment. new information about the investigation. that's next. and not enough time in my kitchen. 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"credit karma. give yourself some credit." the ntsb is investigating a deadly train derailment south of philadelphia sunday morning. one of three serious accidents. the train was carrying more than 300 people when it left the tracks moments after it hit a backhoe and two workers. two workers were killed and three dozen passengers were injured. we get from sara ganim. >> reporter: a source close to cnn telling us that one in a backhoe and one near a backhoe was struck by train 89. they were both amtrak workers. that raises the question over how they did not know they were on an active track. ntsb now on scene working with amtrak to investigate this accident. you can see behind me. that is train number 89 on the palmetto route from new york to savannah, georgia. 341 passengers on board. 35 of the passengers injured when the collision happened. none of them has life threatening injuries. you can see the force of that impact just by looking at the front engine car. you can see it actually derailed from the track. on sunday, amtrak was able to bring back limited service on this northeast corridor which is good news for people in their monday morning commute. 750,000 people ride the northeast corridor every day between boston and washington, d.c. on sunday morning, around 8:00 a.m., this was a frightening experience for many passengers. one telling cnn he could tell something was wrong before the crash happened. outside the window, they could see a cloud of dust. it felt like they were riding on gravel. another passenger, 15-year-old linton holmes talked about his experience. >> the train was like rumbling and we got off track, i guess. then it was just a bunch of dust. dust everywhere. the train conductors were running to the front. people were bloody from it because it was an explosion. we got off track and a big explosion. then it was a fire. then windows busted out. some people were cut up. >> reporter: the investigation is clearly ongoing. the ntsb has recovered the data recorder as well as the forward and inward looking cameras. hopefully those will yield answers. john and christine. >> sara in pennsylvania. two others with amtrak trains. a man lost his leg after he was hit by a train in bucks county, pennsylvania. amtrak train struck a vehicle in illinois which is 60 miles west of chicago. mississippi governor phil bryant is considering to sign a religious freedom bill. the measure would allow government employees and private businesses to deny services to same-sex couples who want to get married. the governor is considering to sign the bill by tomorrow. on friday, a federal judge signed a bill to ban same-sex couples from adopting. new calls for governor robert bentley to step down. legislation putting bentley's recall up for a vote today. recordings revealed sexually explicit phone conversations between him and rebecca mason. she has resigned. questions over whether state funds were used to conceal the relationship. dangerous deadly wind storms slam the midwest and northeast. a tree smashed in a car in massachusetts. two victims were trapped in the car. they were rushed to the hospital, but doctors could not save them. this was the scene in ohio. a huge tree toppled into the house. no word if anyone was hurt there. in new york, downed trees everywhere. debris scattered the streets. with the wind came hail. at least 370,000 people from wisconsin to maine were left in the dark. most significant power outages came in pennsylvania with 82,000 customers with no electricity. >> that was 71-mile-an-hour gusts in new jersey. >> trees down everywhere. >> and garbage cans everywhere. all right. mass deportation of migrants from greece to turkey. an agreement barring those arriving into europe. we are live next. greek officials have begun deporting syrian migrants back to turkey. it is part of agreement with eu. up to 50,000 men, women and children stranded in greece. i want to get the latest from phil black. he joins us from turkey this morning. phil, bring us up to speed. >> reporter: so, christine, what you can see behind me is the second of three boats to pull in here to the turkish town of dikili. we are told 202 in total. mostly from pakistan and afghanis as well. this is the first batch of the returns. the reason for the policy which has been enacted, the eu says from necessity. european countries have closed their borders and created a backlog in greece with tens of thousands of migrants stranded in camps. that number growing by the day. they negotiated the deal with turk turkey. they will have to agree to come back on their own if they don't apply for protection in greece. the rest, according to the eu, will be allowed to stay. what we will see every day is boats like this arriving in turkey and unloading these people. there aren't many syrians aboard here, but the expectation that is to change in the coming days and weeks. for every syrian returned to turkey here, they will take one syrian directly from the refugee camps that line the border. mostly in the south of the country. up to around 72,000. it is a controversy deal. the critics say this is the european union abdicating their responsibility to help them. they are being sent to a country which is not prepared to give them the hope and protection. that said, turkey is a country that already has around 2.7 million syrians living here. people who fled the conflict from just across the border in syria. christine. >> thank you, phil. back to the campaign now. donald trump with new attacks overnight. this time for john kasich. why he says the man running a distant third in the republican primary is stealing his votes. all right. new this morning, donald trump and ted cruz now both say john kasich should get out of the race. bernie sanders and hillary clinton cannot agree on the terms of their next debate. the race for president gets heated one day before the next key primary. new information on the explosive amtrak derailment. two killed. dozens injured. what we are learning this morning ahead. and happening now, thousands of refugees who risk their lives are being deported this morning. the new plan now in motion. welcome back to "early start." i'm john berman. >> nice to have you back from vacation. >> good-ish to be here. >> i'm christine romans. 4:31 in the east. now one day before voters head to the polls in wisconsin, intense battle down to the wire with ted cruz and donald trump. both campaigning across the state. cruz out front leading trump by ten points. cruz picked up key victories over the weekend in colorado. he won the first six delegates to the republican convention. picked in a week long selection process there. in north dakota, the cruz team claims it did well in the delegation to the convention. today is all about wisconsin. a cruz win could alter the mo momentum of the republican race. cnn's sunlen serfaty has more from green bay. >> reporter: the cruz campaign has dispatched heidi and carly fiorina and governor scott walker. the campaign manager claiming all hands on deck in the final 24 hours before voting starts in wisconsin tomorrow. cruz for his part, the senator has been projecting confidence on the stump. he is predicting he will get most if not all of the delegates tomorrow here in green bay, he told the crowd playing off the importance of the moment going forward saying it will be a decision point that will resonate across the country beyond just here in wisconsin. the senator seemed to get reflective on the state of the race and all that has transpired. >> this is quite the election cycle. hadn't been boring. there were all sorts of things a year ago someone would say you would see and you would say no, that would never happen. >> reporter: and a notable strategy shift from the cruz campaign in wisconsin. they are out with the first negative tv ad targeting john kasich. this is a candidate they have attempted to marginalize. calling him a spoiler. the focus on him in wisconsin certainly suggests some concern on their level about what role he might play tomorrow night. christine and john. >> sunlen, thanks. the stakes high for donald trump in wisconsin. losing there would make it harder to clinch the nomination before the republican convention. he is still predicting he will win the state. last night at a rally, trump blasted ted cruz. >> lying ted cruz. he comes in bible high. i'm lying ted cruz. i put the bible down and i start to lie. he's a dirty, rotten cheat. >> subtle. like ted cruz, donald trump took aim at the man running in third right now. cnn's jeremy diamond has the latest. >> reporter: with less than 48 hours until republicans head to the polls. donald trump stumping here in west ellis, wisconsin. a suburb of milwaukee. hitting key issues on the campaign trail. he devoted a bit of time to hitting ohio governor john kasich. that is unusual for trump in stumping in wisconsin. he has focus his fire on ted cruz. he talked about ohio governor john kasich. saying with kasich, it will be harder for him to reach the 1,237 threshold to cinch the nomination. >> kasich is now 1 for 30. it's good if he gets out. i don't want him in. i don't want him in. >> reporter: all of this coming as the wisconsin delegate fight across the country as welcoming into focus. donald trump acknowledging putting the team in place to put the delegates into the fold and get the delegates he needs. certainly donald trump now lagging in the polls in wisconsin hoping to make up ground. he will stump all day today as well as hoping to make up that ground. john and christine. >> jeremy, thank you. the head of the republican party says that trump backing out of his pledge to support the eventual nominee would hurt him. chairman reince priebus says trump's decision could make it harder to quote get people to fall in line with him. priebus says there is a contested convention, it will not pick a candidate who did not run in the primaries. >> if anything like that would happen, which is highly unlikely, i think our candidate is someone who is running. if that is possible, that candidate would actually have to have a floor operation and an actual campaign going on with the delegates to make that possible. paul's not going do that. on the democratic side, hillary clinton and bernie sanders locked in debate over debates. both campaigned over the weekend in wisconsin where sanders holds an edge in the latest polls. they are looking ahead to new york. the big sticking point is debates. if they will debate. when they will debate. where they will debate. there is no agreement this morning. cnn's chris frates has details. >> reporter: good morning. the dispute over when they will debate exploded over the weekend. it all started on saturday when the clinton campaign offered the sanders campaign three dates. april 4th, 14th and 15th. all to be rejected. sanders campaign responding that april 4th was a terrible idea with the ncaa tournament finals happening. nobody would pay attention to politics. not to mention that the big wisconsin primary is the next day. on the 15th, they did not like the idea of doing a morning debate on one of the networks. that left the 14th. bernie sanders telling cnn on sunday that he's got a big rally planned. the sanders campaign countering with four or five other dates of their own. no word from the clinton campaign about where that stands. take a listen to how bernie sanders and hillary clinton talked about the debates. >> i'm confident there will be. i'm not the one negotiating it. i know my campaign has been really trying to get a time that senator sanders campaign would agree with. >> i think we want to look at the maximum viewing audience and anytime and any venue that has that audience. we are looking at options right now. at the end of the day, george, we will have a time and place that will be, i suspect, a very spirited debate. >> reporter: obviously both bernie sanders and hillary clinton want to debate. sanders campaign manager jeff weaver told me he believes that this dispute will be settled fairly soon. it is a very big and important thing for bernie sanders. he is expected to do well tomorrow in wisconsin. he needs those delegates and needs to move to new york and upset hillary clinton in her adopted home state. 250 delegates at stake in new york. that is second to california. where and when this debate airs is important as bernie sanders continues to close the gap on hillary clinton. >> thanks, chris. time for an early start on your money. global stock markets unmoved by donald trump's claim this weekend it is a terrible time to invest in the stock market. dow is up. stocks in europe higher. shares in tokyo closing slightly lower overnight. drivers are loving tesla's lower price electric car. pre-orders topped 275,000 so says elon musk. he has been tweeting sales updates. customers must put down $1,000 deposit to reserve their spot in 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"still poppin' and lockin'" "credit karma, get your free score now." this morning, the ntsb is investigating a deadly train derailment that happened sunday south of philadelphia. one of three serious accidents with amtrak this weekend. officials say the train had more than 300 passengers when it left the tracks after hitting a backhoe and two amtrak workers. both workers were killed. three dozen passengers hospitalized. let's get more from sara ganim. >> reporter: a source close to the investigation telling cnn the construction workers, one in a backhoe and one near a backhoe was struck by the train number 89. both amtrak workers which raises the question how they did not know they were in an active track when the accident happened and the train did not know this was an active construction scene when this happened. the ntsb now on scene working with amtrak to investigate this accident. you can see behind me that is train 89. it was on the palmetto route from new york to savannah, georgia. 3 3 341 passengers on board. 35 injured. none with life threatening injuries. all taken to the hospital or gotten to the destination. you can see the force of the impact by looking at the front car. it can see it derailed from the track. now on sunday, amtrak was able to bring back limited service on this northeast corridor which is good news for people and their monday morning commute. 750,000 people ride the northeast corridor every day between boston and washington, d.c. on sunday morning around 8:00 a.m., this was a frightening experience for many of those passengers. one telling cnn he could tell something was wrong before the crash happened. outside the window, they could see a cloud of dust. it felt like they were riding on gravel. another passenger, 15-year-old linton holmes, talked about his frightening experience. >> the train was rumbling and we got off track. then a bunch of dust. it was just dust everywhere. the train conductors were running to the front. people were bloody because there was an explosion. we got off track and a big explosion. then a fire. then a window busted out. some people were cut up. >> reporter: now the investigation is clearly ongoing. the good news is the ntsb recovered the data recorder as well as the forward and inward looking cameras. hopefully those will yield answers. john and christine. >> sara, thank you. mississippi give phil bryant is deciding to sign a religious freedom to allow government employees and private businesses to deny services to same-sex couples who want to get married. on friday, officials blocked a law in louisiana. new calls this morning for embattled alabama governor robert bentley to step down. state back in session. the recall notice is expected to be drafted today. he has been under fire after revealing sexually explicit phone calls between bentley and rebecca mason. new jersey lawmakers holding a hearing this afternoon to take a close look at the state's aging water infrastructure. concerns are high after authorities found lead in newark's public drinking water. water fountains in 30 schools have been turned off. legislators are hoping to fund a lead abatement program. considering bills to require all schools in the state to test water. dangerous deadly wind storms slam the midwest and northeast. a tree smashed into a car in abington, massachusetts, killing two people. the victims were trapped in the car. this was the scene in ohio. you can see a huge tree toppled over on this house. and in new york, much the same. downed trees everywhere. debris scattering the streets. at least 370,000 people from wisconsin to maine left in the dark. most significant power outages in pennsylvania with 82,000 customers with no electricity. that same system will now bring snow to the northeast. let's bring in meteorologist karen maginnis. >> john and christine, for new york city, you would expect the temperature to be about 55 or 56 degrees. but just wait. don't put away the coats. here's why. we have a clipper system moving through. what's a clipper? clipper generally means it will move through fairly quickly. it moves along. it's got short duration. high impact. that's what we're going to see through a narrow zone from the great lakes extending to the eastern great lakes and across southern new england. that's the high impact. the other high impact is going to be those temperatures. they are really going to drop. you will see temperatures 10 to 15 degrees colder than what you should be this time of year. a big drop. temperature drop in ten minutes at chicago's o'hare airport. 17-degree temperature drop in just ten minutes. just wait. you head toward the weekend. it will get cold again. back to you. >> we had soccer games canceled this weekend because of snow. snow on the field. stocks jumped friday after the jobs report. are investors still feeling optimistic this monday morning? we will get an early start on your money next. happening now, greek officials deporting hundreds of migrants and refugees back to turkey. that is part of the new agreement with the european union. more than 50,000 men, women and children stuck in greece. let's get the latest from cnn's phil black. he joins us live from turkey this morning. give us a sense of what's happening, phil. >> reporter: john, you see one of the vessels behind me. the second of three vessels to pull in here and unload passengers who have failed in the dream of traveling to europe and establishing a new life there. what we understand is that there are around 200 people on board. most pakistani and two syrians decided to voluntarily return. as you say, it became necessary. this deal, arrangement because countries in europe beyond greece started shutting their borders. that created a backlog of people stranded in camps there. they hope this deal would enable some to come back. more than that, deter others from making the journey in the first place. we are moving into the warm spring and summer months here. the expectation is seeing the refugees coming across the sea. now we see the first shipment come back. it will be a regular sight for the foreseeable future. we are talking about huge loads like this and the future is uncertain. syrians will be allowed to stay here in turkey because turkey has opened its gates to 2.7 million syrians who fled the conflict across the border in their country. as we're talking about here, pakistanis and afghanis and north africa as well. the expectation is their future is less certain. what they have do is apply for protection. there is no guarantee they will get it. a controversy for sure. critics say it is europe abdicating its responsibility to help these people. more than that, shipping them back to a country that is not in the best position to deal with them and help them and give them the protection they need. >> it is hard to imagine, phil, people from pakistan and afghanistan, got as far as turkey, would give up once they were shipped back from greece. did they say what their intentions are? >> reporter: well, i think many of them want to get beyond greece. they want to get to germany and other countries in northern europe. once that has been closed to them, it is increasingly clear that there were fewer options and settling in greece is not their intention. in the case of many of those people from those countries, they don't fit the definition of refugees. they are not necessarily fleeing war and persecution the same way the syrians are. the event they were to apply here, the economic migrants, they would have a tougher time of getting official protections in europe. now they have to see if they can get them in turkey. as i say, no guarantee there. it is entirely possible they could end up being end back to the country of origin. from whatever country they left. >> phil black in turkey. thank you. 58 minutes past the hour. let's get an early start on your money. stock futures higher. unfazed by donald trump's comments in the washington post. oil is down below $37 a barrel. stock futures in europe are up. shares in tokyo falling overnight. stock markets in china closed for holiday. after the gains on friday, dow is up 2% this year. nasdaq is 1.85% lower. down almost 5% a week ago. the s&p up 1.4% this year. of the 30 stocks in the dow jones industrial average, the biggest losers are financial. american express down 12%. goldman sachs down 11%. jpmorgan chase down 9%. concerns over the oil industry shaking the financial sector this year. investors are concerned about interest rates expected to remain low. they will rise eventually. alaska airlines nearing a deal to buy virgin america for $2 billion. jetblue is also said to be bidding for the airline. could mark another step in the u.s. airline industry. alaska airlines is based in seattle and flies to 90 destinations. virgin america is outside the top ten. it flies to 22 destination. virgin america has been on a tear. the company was started by richard branson. >> that chart tells you something is happening. >> it says someone is interested in that airline. "early start" continues right now. >> just one day before voters cast ballots in the next key primary. donald trump and hillary clinton trailing in the polls. will a loss in wisconsin shake up the race on both sides? investigators revealing new information on the deadly new amtrak train derailment. what went so wrong? mass deportation of migrants and refugees in europe. happening this morning. there is controversy surrounding this plan to ship thousands from greece to turkey. we are live. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is
5:00 a.m. in the east. now just one day before voters head to the polls in wisconsin, intense battle going down to the wire between donald trump and ted cruz. cruz out front by trump by as much as ten points. cruz picked up victories over the weekend. in colorado, he won the first six delegates to the republican convention picked in a week long selection process. in north dakota, the cruz team said they did well. all north dakota delegates are unbound. today is all about wisconsin. where a cruz win could alter the momentum of the republican race. cnn's sunlen serfaty has the latest from green bay. >> reporter: good morning, christine and john. the cruz campaign hit the ground hard in wisconsin. dispatching heidi cruz, carly fiorina, governor scott walker all barnstorming the state. the cruz campaign manager wants all hands on deck. the senator has been projecting confidence. he is predicting he will get most if not all of the state's delegates tomorrow night. on the stump here in green bay, he is playing up the importance. moment going forward saying it is a decision point that will resonate beyond just here in wisconsin. the senator seemed to get reflective on the state of the race and all that has transpired. >> this has been quite the election cycle. hadn't been boring. there were all sorts of things a year ago someone said you would see and you would say no. >> reporter: there's a notable strategy shift from the cruz campaign here in wisconsin. they are out with the very first negative tv ad targeting john kasich. this is a candidate they have in large part attempted to margina marginalize calling him a quote spoiler. the last few hours here in wisconsin suggests their concerns. >> sunlen serfaty in green bay. let's break it down on both sides. we are joined by political reporter chris moody. chris, this is a big moment for the trump campaign. donald trump effectively could be if not derailed, stalled significantly on his quest for the republican nomination. you can tell the stakes are very high for him trailing ted cruz. unusual amount of vitriol coming from him about ted cruz. >> lying ted cruz. he comes in bible high. i'm lying ted cruz. he's a dirty rotten cheat. remember that. >> you see donald trump. those are words he has used before, but with a tone that sounded harsh. a lot of people saying donald trump had the worst week of his campaign. >> you are right, john. wisconsin is crucial. now we're shifting from winning and losing primaries to the real hard delegate game. looking at the map forward, new york coming up. ted cruz knows in order to keep donald trump from getting the delegates. he needs to clinch the nomination. he needs to win in wisconsin and hold his number down as much as possible. we are not just seeing that on the campaign trail. ted cruz mounted a really aggressive behind the scenes effort to work the delegates system and work the convention system. he is playing some really high level chess here to work the pieces and try to make sure donald trump does not get that number. the belief is among the republican establishment if you can keep donald trump from clinching this nomination, he's not going to have the skills to win on the convention floor. ted cruz believes he invested the time, money and resources and people to do that if he can get there. wisconsin is a key piece of that puzzle strategy. >> the governor of wisconsin endorsed ted cruz. wisconsin with higher voter turnout and republican base directed by scott walker. it could be a tough formula for trump to crack. >> for many reasons. a lot of wisconsin is the heart of the republican establishment power right now. you have the head of the rnc who remains officially not on anyone's side. the governor endorsing cruz. you have paul ryan, the house speaker. this could be a tough place for wisconsin -- excuse me. donald trump. also donald trump's rhetoric as we have seen in the poll numbers. when you break it down by women or educated voters, in wisconsin, you have to play nice in a way. you can't use as much vitriol as trump has. we heard a couple of minutes ago, trump is throwing everything, including the kitchen sink at everyone right now and that could back fire on him tuesday. >> you are talking about the high level campaign that cruz is working. he is picking up delegates that other people don't see out there. the republican chairman reince priebus was asked about this notion of an open convention. there are people who say this is really an avenue where someone like paul ryan and mitt romney or jeb bush and marco rubio could get back in the game and end up on the contested floor fight. reince priebus says not so fast. >> if something like that were remotely possible, that candidate would actually have a floor operation and actual campaign going on with the delegates to make something like that possible. paul's not going to do that. so, my answer is no, but clearly there's a lot of information out there that people are spreading around to cause confusion. i think our candidate is someone who is running. >> if he means that, our candidate is someone running, that means it is a case between ted cruz and donald trump and john kasich. >> there is a rule that a candidate has to win eight states. that rule could change. in a way, reince priebus is right. especially when it comes to the intensity of a floor campaign would mean. there will be hundreds of people need to be involved. if you were coming if like paul ryan or mitt romney, you have to be working behind the scenes. john, you know that would leak so fast if anyone started hinting at doing that. also, if it will be someone not named trump, cruz or kasich and somebody who hasn't run. can you imagine the outcry there would be if someone had taken it from trump, close to 1,237, but someone that never stepped foot on the campaign trail. you would have some problems in cleveland if that were the case. you would be hearing about it from all the candidates, ted cruz, donald trump and john kasich included. >> let's talk about the debate over the debate over whether the dates or the debates are logical. they are zeroing in on the important new york primary without another debate on the schedule. let's listen to what they said. hillary clinton and bernie sanders sparring on the sunday talk shows. >> i'm confident. i'm not the one negotiating it. that is going on between campaigns. i know my campaign has been really trying to get a time that senator sanders campaign would agree. >> i want to look at the maximum viewing audience and any time and venue that works that has that viewing audience will be good. >> april 19th. 247 delegates. you think they will debate before then? >> let's set the stage here a little bit. bernie sanders has had an incredible run in the last couple weeks. dominating in the west and coming in with the momentum in wisconsin. solid base. he could win that state and heading into the battle ground of new york. a lot of frustration early in the democratic race from activists and progressive activists that the debates were sidelines. there were not enough at first and when there were, they were on a high holy holiday or a weekend when no one was watching. sanders deserves the time. he challenged hillary clinton. new york will be huge. you mention over 200 delegates. they want the exposure and they're calling for the debate. i think they will find the time. the campaign trail schedule is tight right now. i think this is frustration is a response to all of that debates pushed to saturday and sunday. they want something as high profile the republicans have had. >> chris moody, thank you. when you get into debates over debates, voters do not care. >> they just want to see a debate. >> he has a t-shirt. >> this is always. chris, thank you. donald trump, the gop frontrunner trashes the economy and makes bold claims about the national debt. trump says he will erase the $19 trillion debt by the end of his 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it is good if he gets out. i don't want him in. he shouldn't be in. if he wants to get to the convention. that's okay. go to the convention and announce you want to be president. you shouldn't be littering up the process. that's what he's doing. >> then team kasich saying, lookiloo look, we don't think he is going to get the nomination. >> john kasich is playing the long game here. trump asked the rnc to kick him out of the race as though they could. that is not how things work. if john kasich has the money and time, he can run for president to his heart content. john kasich knows on the trail, he is fighting on trump's turf. it looks like he is not able to clinch the nomination. once we get to the convention, that is kasich's opportunity. he will have to make a tough argument. let's say he doesn't win any other states. he only has one. he will have to convince the delegates why he should be the one to go to and not ted cruz. that is his only opportunity. the only way to get there is to stay in the race. >> my question, chris, both ted cruz and donald trump say that john kasich is hurting them. they both want john kasich out of the race. they both can't be right. kasich has to be helping either ted cruz or donald trump. it can't be both. >> it can't be. i think we have to dig into the polling data after a couple of weeks or months to see where the kasich voters were going. i think if you look at ted cruz's perspective. he is playing the long game looking closely at the delegate race not just winning each state, but racks up as much delegates deep into the policy and delegate game in a way donald trump is not. a lot of this stuff is behind the scenes. you don't see it on the campaign trail. cruz is working smartly at this game. john kasich does possibly pull away some of that opportunity. if you go to the convention, it is a lot easier for ted cruz versus donald trump as opposed to ted cruz, donald trump and john kasich. i think cruz wants a clear path. he wants to be the one alterative to trump and shift all of the delegates if they can get to the convention without donald trump clinching it beforehand. >> let's talk about wisconsin quickly. this is a big prize here. you have a well informed electorate. active voters. it is the establishment. if there is an establishment state for the republicans, this is it. ted cruz winning in these polls by a ten-point lead here. could it be a good day for ted cruz? >> it looks like it will be a very good day. any time you win a state. donald trump branded himself as a winner. not just that, but also a closer. it is getting more difficult for donald trump to make the closing argument. the math looks good for trump going forward. east to new york where trump is dominating. if you can beat him in a big state like wisconsin, i think it's a great day for ted cruz. the name of the game for him is not just winning, but keeping trump below the threshold of delegates he needs. that will be a victory. once you get to the convention floor, that is ted cruz territory. that is john kasich territory. that is not necessarily donald trump. donald trump dominates on the stump when he is able to campaign at big rallies. he will not have that at the convention. a lot of wheeling and dealing. a lot of horse trading. donald trump might be good at that in business, but he hasn't proven it in politics. now is time to put his money where his mouth is and close a deal here. this is one of the biggest deals he has ever closed if he can pull it off. >> chris, democrats, spending time debating over whether they debate again. what's going on here? >> debates over debates. that is far less interesting over what they will say at a debate. bernie sanders has had a couple of weeks in the west. taking the momentum to wisconsin where he could very well win. this is a thorn in hillary clinton's side. we are in april. i think she wanted to seal this up by now. new york is a state both have roots in. if sanders can make a case and fight against hillary clinton in new york, that is his huge test to what hillary clinton supporters call a spoiler. they want to have a debate before new york. i think democrats, especially bernie sanders supporter, want to see one. they want to see one in primetime like the republicans have had this whole time. that is what the debate is about. there are so many debates on the democratic side held on weekends or time of low audience. they want to change that and get heavy exposure. >> chris moody, thank you. time for an early start on your money. global stock markets unmoved by donald trump's claims this weekend that it is a terrible time to invest in the stock market. oil is flat. stock in europe are higher. to the tesla story now. drivers are loving tesla's lower priced electric car. pre-orders topped 275,000. so says tesla founder elon musk. he has been tweeting sales updates. customers must put down $1,000 deposit to reserve their spot in line. tesla will make the car in california. the batteries made in nevada. this tesla model 3 starts at $35,000. it can get up to 215 miles on a full charge. it can go 0 to 60 in less than six seconds. two dozen killed and many more injured in an amtrak derailment. we have new information on the investigation next. understands not every iny the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. once i left the hospital after a dvt blood clot. what about my wife... ...what we're building together... ...and could this happen again? 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"new day" picks up our coverage now. let me get rid of the other two, and then i'll be presidential. >> i could not care less about donald trump. >> he's a dirty, rot especially cheat. remember that. >> a vote for me is a vote for john kasich. >> it's good if he gets out. i don't want him in. >> what we are hearing is truly scary. >> you are looking at the strongest democratic candidate. >> it's kind of a frightening few seconds. we didn't know what to do. >> two kills, dozens injured in an amtrak derailment. >> we got off track and then there was like a big explosion. >> this state has the most hateful law in america against lbgt. >> it's incumbent upon you, governor cory, to fix your mess. >> this is new take with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day". monday, april 4th, 6:00 in the east alisyn could not bare to me see or j.b. with a tan so she's not here. donald trump is happier than anybody else in the race because it means last week is over. or is it? ted cruz still beat the drum of trump's recent abortion comments, especially with women voters ahead of tomorrow's very important wisconsin primary. trump reminding people how he rebounded to win big in new hampshire. cruz is saying if we want to look back, look at wisconsin looking like iowa, john. he's looking for a big night. >> he does, donald trump, face an uphill battle. he is trailing by double digits in both polls. they are desperate to clinch all the states, 42 delegates. he is now pushing for john kasich to drop out of the race. both cruz and kasich want trump out. he said he would automatically win if case
nothing. there was no trump last night. didn't see him at all anywhere, at any podium talking about anything. instead, a statement. lying ted and steal the nomination, stuff like that. ted cruz is worse than a puppet, he's a trojan horse, being used by the party bosses, attempting to steal the nomination from mr. trump. but trump said nothing. winning, huge, polls, none of that seemed true to the moment. it was not trump triumph tuesday. more trump trounce tuesday. he lost by 13 points. and ted cruz won. so for him, turnaround tuesday. >> tonight is a turning point. it is a rallying cry. it is a call from the hard-working men and women of wisconsin to the people of america. so let me just say, hillary, get ready, here we go. >> get ready, here we come, because turnaround tuesday happened. narrative changed. huge, even. but there's a lot more there. some really important things happened that may give us an insight into what's coming. or not. first of all, cruz did better than anybody predicted. remember the polls? they hahim winning by a few points here. most said six or seven points. but nobody and nothing said 13. so how did he do it? look at this. here's his lead among people who represent themselves as born again christians, evangelicals, more conservatives. his base, histarget audience, his lane, as we used to say, he won that big, as expected. but among those who do not describe themselves as born again or evangelical, he won those too. that's like what he'll face in other states, the more moderate, cruz did better there than most thought he would. trump got his. the thinking was he'd get around 35%. what did he get? 35%. this wasn't a trump fall. it was not. not as much as it was a cruz surge. that surge came among more moderate voters. that's the telling thing. that may be what's different. sure, he had help from local talk radio people and a very engaged republican electorate who didn't like trump's demeanor, his tone. but this man, ted cruz, who is hated by the establishment is surging among the more establishment types. that's a big deal. remember what the establishment's been saying about ted cruz over and over, who is more establishment than the republican lindsey graham? remember what he said. >> if you nominate trump and cruz, i think you get the same outcome. you know, whether it's death by being shot or poisoning, does it really matter? i don't think the outcome will be substantially different. >> not much difference there. death by shot or poison. both of those are bad, in that you are dead, according to lindsey graham. not what you would want. but now that same lindsey graham rallies for ted cruz. in wisconsin, more moderate republican voters went for ted cruz. not kasich. he got 14%. there was no kasich surge among more establishment types. that did not happen. the surge went to ted cruz. still wisconsin is not new york, which votes next. two weeks from yesterday, new yorkers vote, and there are 95 delegates up for grabs. we'll get to that in a minute because how the delegates are doled out is a really big deal, different from wisconsin, but we'll get to that. trump at 52%. kasich, less than half at 25%. and ted cruz, the big winner from last night, turnaround tuesday winner, only 17%. third place. last place. that's new york. 1/3 of the percentage that trump has. of course that poll was before cruz had his turnaround tuesday in wisconsin, before that narrative changed. but will the narrative change work in new york for ted cruz? we'll see. most doubt it. in fact, most strongly doubt it, of the pundit types, of the analysts who decide in advance. and if what you want is a cruz to the rescue candidate to win the nomination and beat hillary clinton, consider this. in head-to-head general elections kasich beats hillary clinton by six points. but in a head to head that's cruz versus clinton, clinton wins, 46-43. of course in a brokered convention, where nobody has 50% of the delegates in advance, most anything can happen. that's what we're being told. and turnaround tuesday makes that much more likely. so could kasich happen? seems so. but today belongs to cruz. ted cruz of texas. he of the far right, of shutting down the government, of no friends in washington, today is ted's day, because yesterday was turnaround tuesday in wisconsin. john? >> what is about to happen is going to be fascinating and interesting. mark my words on that. here are the themes that we're going to have hammered into our heads over and over again for the next two weeks. pay close attention. from the trump chain, donald trump will insist that ted cruz is nothing more than a pawn of the republican establishment, despite the fact that he ran as an anti-establishment candidate, which is using him to deny voters a voice in the election. that was evident in the trump statement from last night, calling cruz a trojan horse for the establishment. the cruz campaign will try to paint trump as a false conservative. after a lunch meeting in the bronx, cruz was asked about his infamous new york values statement and spun it around to tie trump to famous big apple liberals. >> the people of new york know exactly what those values are, liberal democratic politicians, like andrew cuomo, like anthony weiner, like eliot spitzer, like charlie wrangle, all of whom donald trump has supported, given tens of thousands of dollars throughout the year. if you want to know what liberal democratic values are, follow donald trump's checkbook. >> follow the money. trump is throwing his popularity in cruz's face, tweeting, it's so great to be back home, looking forward to a great rally tonight in bethpage, long island. trump had requests for 18,000 tickets. cruz on the other hand is bagging about his popularity with a wide cross section of republicans, all of whom came together last night to give him the big win in wisconsin. cruz called last night a turning point, but if i were a betting man, i'd say it's going to turn back and forth all the way to july. >> good bet, john roberts. we can talk about ted cruz's turnaround tuesday, all the votes he got and the big win over donald trump. but what really matters, what will decide all of this is not that. the delegates. you have to have half the delegates to be the republican nominee, 1,237 delegates, plus one to get the nomination on the first ballot at the convention in july. so what happened last night? let's take a look. 42 delegates available last night. if you win the state, you get 18. cruz won the state. so cruz got 18 delegates. that's the big prize for winning the state of wisconsin. 18 delegates for winning that whole state. that's what it starts with. but of course there's more than that. there's also the districts. let's look at the districts. eight congressional districts. for each district you win, you get three delegates. bigger districts here because there's less population density. larger districts by milwaukee because there's more density there. so this is the math and this is who got what. this is two districts for donald trump and the rest of them for ted cruz. so cruz got 36 delegates and trump got six delegates. the 18 and the 36, that's what ted cruz got last night and donald trump got six total. that's what he got. so what's going to happen in new york? that's two weeks from yesterday. new york has 95 delegates total, and the rules are different. for winning the whole state of new york, you get 14. trump will probably do that if the polls are right. and then for each district in the state of new york, you get three delegates from each district. there's 17 districts. see? but the difference in the rules is this. you need 50% of all the votes within each of the districts within the state of new york to get all three of the delegates out of that district. if you win less than 50% of the votes in the district, but you win the district, if you do that, you only get two. and then the next one gets one. so it's harder to get a whole lot of delegates out of new york, which really is not good for donald trump. because for donald trump, what you need is 50% of all the delegates plus one to win on the first ballot. remember, that's for the delegate vote on the first ballot. it's harder now because of what happened in wisconsin on turnaround tuesday for trump to get the nomination on the first ballot. but even with the turnaround win, it's still almost impossible for ted cruz to get the delegates he needs, and it's fla flat-out impossible for john kasich to do it. he cannot do it. there's no math that makes it happen. if trump gets to the threshold, fine, then he's the nominee, but more likely than that, it's a second ballot or a third or a fourth, or a ninth, or something else that decides it. rebecca berg is a reporter for real clear politics.com. just got harder, didn't it? >> it got a lot harder for trump. he has been focused on winning this campaign before the convention's shut. they realize when they get there, those delegates are not necessarily going to be trump supporters. they don't have the organization of someone like ted cruz to be going around to all these states, picking up delegates who on the second ballot will necessarily support them. and they don't have the institutional advantage of having been part of the republican framework for many years. and so they're trying to win this flat out. but after last night, it does get much more difficult for them. >> and here's something else that just happened. i read today in politico that donald trump's big campaign apparatus within the big general election states to come, the ones that would swoop up delegates for him, sounds like they're disappearing, if you believe politico. >> right. so there's turmoil within the trump campaign. i guess you could call it growing pains for them. because they built a campaign that was not really built to last throughout this entire primary process. it exceeded all expectations. and now they face a really difficult logistical challenge in terms of winning these states down the line and also accruing delegates at the same time and winning over delegates who might vote for them on the second ballot. in addition to unbound delegates across the country. so it's a challenge their campaign wasn't really built for. they brought on this delegate hunter and convention manager in paul manford who is a very experienced hand, abobut whethee can fit into the trump campaign without conflict, it's an open question. we could see some conflicts. >> and they just brought that guy on. ted cruz has had people in all of these states. look at what happened in louisiana. look at what happened in north dakota. he's had people out there making promises. i know you got to do what you got to do on the first ballot. but on the second ballot, we will give you a blank, or we will offer you a blank, or give you this prize if you will on the second ballot, vote for ted cruz instead. donald trump does not have those people. those people have been hard at work, and it sounds like cruz has been able to bring the people together. if you still don't get to that, if it's not ted cruz on the second ballot, then they can vote for, i don't know, can they vote for paul ryan, if somebody's suggesting that? >> technically they could, unless the republican national rules committee at the convention were to write a rule saying, much like rule 40 at the past convention, that you had to have won a certain number of states to be considered, or you had to have won delegates. we don't know what the rules of the convention is going to be. that's decided in the week before the convention. makes it really hard for the candidates to plan. the republican candidates right now at least are moving forward under the assumption that it's going to be one of the three men running at this point. >> rebecca, thank you. remember rule 40? that's the rule they put into place last time. this time, they can do new rules. we'll talk about rule 40 right here tomorrow. more politics next. president obama no longer running for anything, so why is he going after ted cruz harder than anything else? i mean, going after donald trump. that's what i meant. we'll get to that next. jusdoes that mean they have toer grow apart from their friends, or from the things they love to do? with right at home, it doesn't. right at home's professional team thoughtfully selects caregivers to help with personal care, housekeeping, meals, and most of all, staying engaged in life. oh, thank you, thank you. you're welcome. are you ready to go? oh, i sure am. we can provide the right care, right at home. and you're talking to yourevere rheumatorheumatologistike me, about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira giving me new perspective. doctors have been prescribing humira for ten years. humira works for many adults. it targets and 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mexico pay for the that border wall along the -- the wall, the wall along the border, the one that mexico will pay for, by cutting off money that mexicans living in the united states send home to mexico. trump says his plan will work. mexico's president disagrees quite vehemently. no agreement about what he calls the bleeping wall, but he didn't say bleeping. the president notes world leaders are asking him not about any of that, but about the quote, whackiest suggestions from republican candidates. let's bring in josh letterman, white house reporter for the associated press. that president obama is the trump attacker in chief. >> he is now. for months, shep, the president really tried to avoid getting pulled into the fray. the white house didn't want him to become a pundit on the race to replace him. but the thing to remember it, nobody has bigger stakes in this election than the president, who stands to see so much of what he's worked towards the last seven years be undone depending if there's a republican who wants to move in a different direction. so increasingly we've seen the president on the attack, grabbing these opportunities to call out specific trump policies and to cast him as someone who's not really ready to be commander in chief. >> and because bernie sanders is still in this race. they thought it would be wrapped up, they said it would be wrapped up in february, march at the latest. it's april now, it's not wrapped up. not like the president can be going, hillary, hillary, rarara. >> and they're still fighting amongst themselves. so when they go after trump, their message is muddled because they still have to deal with the primary. the president is in a position to focus exclusive on the republicans enemy the time when there's a nominee he can get behind and get all the democrats to support that nominee. >> how many republicans are sitting out there, going, world leaders are worried about the things they're saying. i don't know how many of those there are. >> exactly. and the key question, how many voters out there who don't support the president, when they see him attacking donald trump, that makes them want to rally behind donald trump. you just don't know. >> who else can we expect -- the president doesn't hold a lot of sway over republican voters. who else can we expect to begin entering this fray? >> i think you'll start to see a lot of the people that are considered to be centric figures. people who have worked in this administration at one point in time or another, but are not associated as die-hard democrats. you'll see the administration bring them out to show the opposition for donald trump and the support for hillary clinton or bernie sanders and broader than just the democratic base. >> he said, i'm getting questions constantly from foreign leaders about some of the whackier suggestions that are being made. obama said they don't expect half-baked notions coming out of the white house. we can't afford that. yet the republican electorate is largely on board with a lot of this stuff. >> that's right. and there's a gap between what we see republicans supporting and donald trump espousing and what the president said he's hearing from foreign leaders, concern about muslim immigrants, immigrants from mexico and the wall. and the president really trying to use the fact that he has that position as the leader of the free world, at least for the next few months, to try and say, look, these are not the kinds of leadership qualities that work when in the oval office making these kinds of decisions, and really trying to use that to impune the ability of donald trump to be a successful president. >> josh letterman, a.p., josh, thank you. >> lots more polics ahead on the republican side and the democratic side. have you heard about the alabama governor? we'll do that. but first, the feds revealed that close to one million people have security clearance working at the nation's airport, so how do you keep up 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the airport in brussels. the 22-year-old woman from williamsburg, virginia, told a local tv station that she missed being on the path of one of the bombs by just a matter of minutes. >> i was actually standing with the officer at border control, when all of a sudden i heard someone yelling and then an explosion. i'm just praying, god, save us, help us. i mean, it's just the most helpless feeling you could imagine. just not knowing if i would make it out of there. >> a survivor of that bombing. lawmakers say they're trying to find ways to prevent similar attacks from happening here in the united states. there are no specific threats, but they're trying to prevent it. airport security is the focus of a hearing on capitol hill. it was a weird coincidence, it turns out, the man responsible for keeping america's airports safe, was at the brussels airport during the attack. >> yes, shep. that is tsa administrator peter necessaryinger, and he just happened to arrive at the airport, meeting with his counterparts there, and he happened to arrive at the bombs detonated. listen. >> being there on that day, seeing the devastation, seeing the chaos of the airport environment and the evil behind it was a stark reminder of the important work we do every day at tsa to protect travelers. >> today he outlined how the tsa has improved security beyond checking passengers. things like increasing the number of steps to inspect cargo. increasing the amount of perimeter checks around airports and reducing the number of entrances into those perimeters. much of the hearing today focused on securing transportation hubs where crowds gather. places like train stations and airports outside the security screen area. >> is there a plan for that? >> well, there are some proposals on the table right now by lawmakers. for example, one of the proposals is by senate democrats, it would nearly double the number of armed tsa teams that are called viper teams that patrol areas like the counter at the ticket counters at airports as well as train stations and he says that would help. >> if i were to receive more viper teams, i would put them to use across the transportation system. be able to deploy them more effectively with our partners in the service world and would deploy them to more public areas of our aviation environment. >> and lawmakers plan to add that proposal as well as some others to faa legislation that's being considered in the senate this week, including a bipartisan plan that would improve accouhow airport workerh access to restricted areas are screened. >> appreciate it. we're getting word out of north korea that it's jamming the gps devices in south korea in what appears to be an effort to disrupt the navigation system of hundreds of passenger jets. that's what multiple defensive sources have told fox new now. officials in south korea say it started happening last week. but so far no reports of any passenger planes having any kinds of issues. 30,000 u.s. military 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secretary clinton, was beating her at the time. they switched from her to him. sanders says he can do that again. ed henry is live in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, this afternoon. another win in sanders, but the math on delegates is not good. >> that's right, shep. it's a long shot to get the super delegates to change, but you're also right that if he keeps winning, some of these super delegates are going to say, wait a second, is there a really problem with the clinton campaign. sanders is hoping to fan those flames, in part, because look at this new poll from pennsylvania. they vote at the end of april. and clinton is only winning by six points. yes, she's in the lead, but we've seen in states like wisconsin, clinton starts with a lead, maybe a big one, it becomes a small one, and then sanders closes and wins. he said momentum is on his side. watch. >> momentum is that when you look at national polls or you look at statewide polls, we are defeating donald trump by very significant numbers. and so he is focusing on new york, almo$&m pennsylvania, over 200 delegates as well. that's the jackpot, a lot of delegates. but as you note, since democrats do it proportionally, when hillary clinton comes in second, if it's not a huge margin for bernie sanders that he wins by, she still collects delegates and >> so she can't start attacking really the republicans, she's clearly leaving that to president obama to do that. she has to keep going after bernie sanders because he won't go away. >> yeah. she has been trying for weeks to focus on the general election. pivot, if you will, rip into republican donald trump. she's still doing that, but the focus now has to go back to bernie sanders. in fact, before this event that's about to start here in pittsburgh, she was in philadelphia, going after bernie sanders' plans and saying they're simply not realistic. watch. >> i am concerned that some of his ideas just won't work because the numbers don't add up. others won't even pass congress or they rely on republican governors. suddenly having a conversion experience and becoming progressive. >> now, she suggested as well that sanders is not doing his homework, and frankly, he gave her some fodder on that. if you look at the new york daily news, it's lighting up social media because on a whole series of policy questions, sanders appeared to be unprepared, even on the question of, if he's elected president, does he have the power to break up big banks, he didn't really know. and that's a problem because it's a central piece of his campaign. >> certainly is. let's turn to abbey philips and ed mentioned the new york daily news. i happen to have it. they don't want guns on the subway or whatever. but they're slamming bernie. i don't want to say the new york daily news is for clinton, but they're slamming bernie there. is that a sign of something? >> it's a sign that campaign in new york is going to be incredibly brutal, potentially for all the people involved. >> who knew. who can back up six weeks and go, wow, new york is going to really matter? >> and they're pretty excited, i think, these tabloids about having the presidential candidates in their backyard. i mean, look, this bernie sanders interview with "the daily news" was not exactly what his campaign wanted and it was exactly what the hillary clinton campaign wanted. they've been blasting it out everywhere. in fact, a few moments ago, hillary clinton really doubled down on that cover, blasting bernie sanders for basically taking the side of gun manufacturers over the families of the sandy hook massacre. so it's going to get pretty dirty and it's also a reflection of the fact that the clinton campaign wants new york state to be the end of bernie sanders. it's unclear whether they'll be able to do that, new york despite being her backyard, is also a place where there are a lot of progressives. bernie sanders brought together 10,000 people in brooklyn a week ago and that's a sign. >> the delegate gap is still about 250? >> yeah. and even more. even if bernie sanders were to re-create what he did in wisconsin, with a 13-point lead, that would not be much enough to catch up to her. he needs like a 20-point lead to have a chance to overtake her in pledged delegates. then he would still need over 400 super delegates to get to the threshold the democrats have placed for winning the nomination. so, yes, this is a long shot. it would require almost everything going his way, but that's what his campaign says they're hoping to do. >> so what's his function? i get it if you're a republican, you're glad that that continues, they can keep throwing shots at each other, but for senator sanders, what is his function? >> that's what i think the clinton campaign is asking themselves right now. >> is it about the narrative? >> well, they believe that he was making her a stronger candidate by forcing her to have someone to run against. i think bernie sanders looks at his campaign as both -- i think he's become more convinced he could win this. but he also wants to run a 50-state issue campaign. he wants to force hillary clinton to talk about his issues in every single state from now until june and i think that's exactly what he intends to do. >> abbey philip from "the washington post," good to see you. >> thank you. a bipartisan group of lawmakers is calling for the impeachment of alabama governor robert bentley. he admitted he made inappropriate sexual remarks to a woman who used to work for him. comments that were caught on tape. there's more than that. trace gallagher has it. trace? >> shep, in 2014, governor bentley's family suspected he was having an affair. in the process of intervention, they taped a telephone conversation. bentley's secretary and close friend spencer collier was listening in on the call and two weeks ago when spencer collier was fired, he made the tapes public. now we don't have the tapes in hand, so we cannot verify their authenticity. but here's a portion. listen. >> you know, i just -- i worry about sometimes i love you so much that i worry about loving you so much. all the time i'm thinking how can -- how can i come back, how can i call her? baby, let me tell you what we're going to do. we're going to do what we did the other day, start our life together. >> we only hear the governor's voice on the tape, and he has now admitted making inappropriate remarks, but both bentley and rebecca mason deny a physical affair. mason has now resigned to focus on her family. shep? >> and so she's resigned, but he's still the governor, and he's now facing impeachment? >> true. and a bipartisan group of alabama lawmakers are vowing to introduce articles of impeachment. and what makes this such an uphill battle for the governor is the fact that some of his most vocal critics are also republicans. it certainly doesn't help that bentley, now in his second term, was a baptist deacon who ran as an honest, principled deacon. but governor bentley said there are no grounds for impeachment and i will vigorously defend myself and my administration from this attack. state representatives say they have the votes to move for impeachment right now, but this whole thing might take a while. >> trace, thank you. how'd you like to makes hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars to sit around and do absolutely nothing? may sound like a dream job, but it's a nightmare for us taxpayers because we're paying for that. details on that next. but first the country music legend merl haggard has died. the okey from musk ogee is in the country hall of fame, countless singers have covered his hits and he was still touring into his 70s. he grew up in a poor family in southern california. he once lived in an old train car. merle haggard said he was inspired to become a musician when he heard johnny cash play at a concert at a prison where haggard was an inmate. his manager confirmed, merle haggard died today on his birthday after battling 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trump currently stands at 739 delegates, and there are three types of states that have still yet to vote. you have winner-take-all state, hybrid states which award their delegates based on a combination of the results in the congressional districts and some other standards, and proportional states which award their delegates based on the overall vote total. let's assume trump continues at the same pace as he has throughout this primary process. and we'll award him all of the winner-take-all states, 76% of the delegates in hybrid states and 49% of the delegates in proportional states. now if we were to do that, trump would be at 1,138 delegates before the last day of voting on june 7th. but june 7th is a big day there are some big states voting, including california and new jersey. there are 303 delegates at stake. but if trump were to perform at the same clip, as you can see, he would easily get over the 1,237 mark and win the republican nomination. but this is an unpredictable election. a lot could happen. let's say donald trump do as well in the hybrid states and we drop his performance to only 50% of the available delegates. watch how the number changes, and he comes dangerously close to that 1,237 mark. and let's say he loses some winner-take-all states like montana and nebraska. if that were to happen, he would actually fall below the 1,237 mark and we could be headed to a contested convention. so as you can see, a lot can happen over the next several weeks. but right now the delegate math shows us that donald trump is in the best position to win the republican nomination. in washington, i'm ryan nobles. >> ryan, thanks. and when it comes to math, ohio governor john kasich presently has no mathematical chance of winning the republican delegate count outright. but he is stay manage the race. >> yes. the governor says he thinks he is in a good position to come out in top in a brokered convention in which no candidate has the majority of delegates in the first round of voting. >> ted cruz needs about 90% of the delegates going forward to win. that's just not going to happen. and trump needs about 60%, and that's not going to happen either. look, when delegates go the a convention, and i've been at conventions, they get to be very serious about two things. one, who can win in the fall. and i'm the only one that consistently beats hillary clinton. and secondly, delegates feel the weight of decision on their shoulders. and they begin to think about who actually could run the country, who has the experience, who has the vision, who has had success in the past. >> we'll just have to keep watching to see what happens. but you of course can get your fix any time on our website. we have the latest polls, election results and in-depth reporting. you can find it at cnn.com/politics. now to a fight for a level playing field in the world of soccer. players on the u.s. women's team are calling for equal pay to their male counterpart citing better results and stronger financial returns. they've been winning. the women filed a complaint wednesday evening with the equal employment opportunity commission. that's the u.s. agency that enforces equal pay law. goalkeeper hope solo explained the decision to nbc's "today" program. >> it's a pain to be told we can be grateful just to have the opportunity to play professional soccer and to get paid for doing it. and in this day and age, you know, it's about equality. it's about equal rights. it's about equal pay. and we're pushing for that we believe now is the time is right because we believe it's our responsibility for women's sports. >> right. >> and specifically for women's soccer. >> and the numbers are on their side. they make for a strong argument here. male players can earn more than $17,000 for an exhibition match against a top opponent, according to the court document. and they get no less than $5,000 even if the team loses. but women are paid a maximum of less than $5,000 even if they win every game. the men's team earned $9 million in the 2014 world cup for losing in the round of 16 while the women made just $2 million when they won. the 2015 championship. the u.s. governing body released a statement reading the following, quote, u.s. soccer will continue to be an advocate on the global soccer stage to influence and develop the women's a game. and involve fifa's compensation model. notably, it did not give any specifics on the compensation model. >> earlier i spoke with sports commentator, the author of end zone, the rise and return of michigan football. i asked whether the women were making a valid case for equality in this case. >> it should be noted also that the women's team itself has generated more money by far, by $20 million last year in 2015 than the men's team did. so their case is not only based on how well they're getting paid but how much they're winning, but how much money they're generating for the u.s. soccer federation. by those three bases right there, pretty clearly they should be getting paid at least as much as the men. they might even argue more than the men. >> can i ask you, is the reason they're generating more money, does that come down to their generating more interest because they're a hot team? >> winning does sell, doesn't it? it certainly does help. furthermore, in the u.s., of course, and you know being an american, that with title ix, there are millions of girls who revere these women as their heroes. they have a natural base of fans. men and women watch the game. and tim howard, a former men's star and landon donovan have already come out strongly in favor of this action. so they've got the support i think almost the entire nation. >> you've got this marquee, if you will, lawsuit. because looking at the them now, these are the stars of the u.s. women's soccer team. so this case, john, could become a touchstone in the debate that we're hearing in the election cycle about the pay gap between men and women. couldn't it? >> i dare say it will be. in fact, you have to say the women, their timing could not be better. they won the world cup, of course, last year in canada, 2015. and they won three of those. they made more money than the men. it is an olympic year, 2016, of course, in rio. and trust me, the u.s. soccer federation, the usoc, even ioc has to have the american women there in order to get american tv ratings. and it's one of the craziest election cycles of all time. one of the items on the docket is fair pay for women, of course. this feeds exactly into all those agendas. i think their odds of winning are excellent. >> and i want to ask you this. if these women prevail and they likely should, what do you think we will hear as far as, will we, the reasoning that it hasn't been fair? >> man, we're dealing with irrational behavior, you'll get irrational answer, of course. you're going to claim it's less popular. it's not. they're going to complain that they're not as good. that's not true. they're world cup champions. any logical reason that you can give me that they're not to be paid the same simply breaks down very quickly. so you're going the hear all kinds of crazy stuff. but it will be crazy stuff. the women here have got in my opinion a rock solid case. >> we look forward to the outcome. and we look forward to seeing what you write about it. john bacon joining us. thank you so much, john. >> natalie, thank you. >> and of course, when there is an outcome, you will hear it here. go, gals! >> absolutely. >> they're winning. >> they're wing. just ahead here on "newsroom," a severe storm system in mississippi. we're tracking the weather across the southeastern united states for you. the world loses one of its most innovative architects. the life and designs of zaha hadid. that's next. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and 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that we've seen across the deep south. violent weather has erupted as spring as sprung across the southeast. very typical for this time of year. you're looking at northern alabama. here is huntsville. here is birmingham. right here is priceville. you may see that particular cell, that bright red cell that moved across the region that was indicative of the cell that produced the tornado, at least primarily. that's what they're saying. some damage. we did see reports of hail and high winds and trees and power lines down. but no reports, amazingly, of any injuries. now, it looks like as we go into the next 12 to 24 hours, just in the vicinity of georgia, augusta, georgia all the way over to montgomery, georgia in the deep south, we could see as much as 6 inches of rainfall. most areas not expecting that much. but nonetheless, because of these lingers systems, the ground is saturated. we could see some localized flooding. here are some of the tornado reports we had earlier. it's still a very volatile situation across the deep south. but now we're starting to see an increase amount of lightning in south central sections of georgia and still lingering in alabama. although it looks like it's calming down because you don't get the heat of the day. with the cooler temperature, you're not going see the thunderstorms fire up quite a bit. but this area of low pressure, you can see this on the water vapor imagery, this will move across the great lakes. this is a clipper system. they call it a clipper because it moves so quickly. but then as we go towards the weekend and then into monday, those temperatures are going to be remarkably cold. april is just one of those fickle months you can never count on it. back to you guys. >> thanks, karen. well, one of the world's most innovative architects has unconventional designs which can be seen all over the world. >> hala gorani has a look at the incredible mark she made on modern architecture. >> reporter: zaha hadid's work can be 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of the land. >> president zuma says he will now cooperate with the ruling. in the u.s. state of alabama, governor robert bentley is refusing to resign in the face of a deepening scandal over an alleged extramarital affair. >> his top aide, the other woman named in that alleged affair has now resigned from her position in the governor's office. here is cnn's alina machado. >> today i want to apologize to the people of the state of alabama. >> reporter: alabama governor robert bentley under fire, but refusing to resign after being accused of an affair with one of his top aides, rebecca mason. the allegations surfaced after sexually explicit recordings of him became public. >> i stand behind you, and i put my arms around you, and i put my hands on your breasts, and i put my hands on you and pull you close, i love that too. >> reporter: the 73-year-old republican is the only voice heard on the tape, but he publicly apologized to mason and her family. the governor, who doesn't deny the legitimacy of the recordings say they were made two years ago. at the time the governor and mason each were married. >> we're going to do what we did the other day, we're going to are to start. >> it was a time in my life that i had made inappropriate comment. >> reporter: bentley and his wife have since divorced. he maintains -- >> i have never had a physical affair with mrs. mason. i can assure the people of alabama that as their governor, i have never done anything illegal. >> reporter: the governor has been under mougntin pressure to resign since spencer collier, the governor's former law enforcement chief, held a news conference last week to accuse bentley of having an affair and inappropriately using resources to cover up relationship. the governor fired collier the day before for alleged wrongdoing. at least one alabama state lawmaker, ed henry, says he intends to start the impeachment process next week. mason, meanwhile, resigned from her post wednesday, saying in a statement "my only plans are to focus my full attention on my precious children and my husband, who i love dearly. they are the most important people in my life. thank you for your prayers for our family." alina machado, cnn, miami. >> for all you parents who might be traveling with kids at some point, virgin australia is introducing a new concept in air travel. 100% adult-free kid class. >> and time after takeoff doesn't need to be a bore, coloring and stories galore. check your seat and style, with hopscotch rung down the aisle. and when you thought things couldn't get slicker, we've gone and built seat just for the kicker. >> for the nervous travelerer, kids class includes a customized teddy bear service and storytime with bubbles on demand. it sounds fantastic, doesn't it? but, you see, it turns out it is all an elaborate april fools prank. sorry, kids. you can't kick the seat in front of you. >> april fools. sorry about that. late night comedian jimmy kimmel is getting in on april fools as 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you know how many times i have been given the end? i have been given the last rites, you know, how many times. ten? they walk in, sir, i don't know what happened, but your poll numbers went through the roof. >> cnn political reporter sara murray is with the trump campaign in wisconsin. she has the latest. >> reporter: good morning, john and cristina. trump spent his last hours barnstorming the state. he held three events yesterday and for trump, it was back to basics. he decided to focus on basics. he hit ted cruz and went after john kasich calling him to step aside and get out of the race. >> he takes my votes away more than cruz. i don't like it. i don't think it's right. you know what? if we have to live with him, we still beat him easily. >> reporter: now he also brought reinforcements on the campaign trail. here in milwaukee, he was joined by melania trump. >> as you may know by now, when you attack him he will punch back ten times harder. no matter who you are, a man or a woman, he treats everyone equal. he's a fighter and if you elect him to be your president, he will fight for you and for our country. >> reporter: back to you. >> sara, thanks so much. let's break down the vote in wisconsin. what it means for both parties. we are joined by political reporter josh rogin. today in some ways could be a turning point on the campaign. particularly for donald trump if he loses wisconsin. this could put a crimp in his plans for 1,237. >> we have a crucial wisconsin primary. we look at the rules in different states, wisconsin has particular ones. we are looking at a hybrid system where there's 42 delegates. 18 automatically given to the frontrunner. whoever wins wisconsin gets a set number of delegates. that's going to change the balance here and trajectory as everybody goes to 1,237. wisconsin is an open primary. this is a primary where people who are not traditional republicans can vote. that would benefit trump. on the other hand, a strict voter i.d. law. new people, new trump voters who don't have an identification handy may not vote on election day. you can deem it out according to the polls. ted cruz's ten-point lead is closing a bit. most have him up by five or six points. today matters in the get out the vote matters. all eyes focused on wisconsin because it is a state where the winner makes a difference. >> trump has been criticized for being unpresidential. he had a few words to say about that. take a listen. >> i could be presidential. if i was presidential, we would only have about 20% of you here because it would be boring as hell. let me be unpresidential for a little while longer. maybe i'll be a little unpresidential as i beat hillary. >> now does a message like that really play well with wisconsin voters? >> it's not clear that it does. this is a state where trump has been at war in recent days with governor scott walker who has a high approval rating and setting up to run for another term in 2018. all of the indications show trump's unpresidential style is actually hurting him. at the same time, he has no other option. he can't go back now. at the same time, the fact that he brought out his wife and all political professionals know that is something you can only do once. that is a last-ditch effort when you bring out your wife, someone who can't be attacked and someone meant to counter the negative press that the trump campaign has had when dealing with women, that is something that is very presidential. that is something the trump campaign decided to do now because they thought it was important. it was a card they had up their sleeve that they now played. he is making moves that indicate he is sensitive to the criticism. >> the race on the republican side, ted cruz and donald trump. both candidates talking about john kasich. they both want kasich to drop out of the race and now kasich last night on ac 60is responding. particularly to ted cruz. he doesn't like the new ads that the cruz campaign, the mailers the cruz campaign put out directly going after him. listen. >> he is senator smear. people say you seem to be pointing things out. i said i'm not a pin cushion or marshmallow. he smeared marco rubio and he smeared ben carson. this guy plays that kind of politics. it's down. it's dirty. it's negative and it is not uplifting. >> everyone wants kasich out except kasich. josh? >> according to the political professionals working in the campaigns, kasich remaining in the race hurts trump more than cruz. the logic is simple. there is no path for him to get to 1,237. the theory among the never trump people, the longer kasich stays in, the more delegates you peel off donald trump. the people who are not affiliated with any campaign have been screaming at the cruz campaign to stop training fire on kasich. they are saying that doesn't help anyone except donald trump. kasich is needed. especially in some of the later states. the mid-atlantic states, to take delegates. one, two, three, four away from donald trump. the cruz people are not listening to that. they think their interest is winning the states outright because of the sort of mix of proportional delegates depending on which state. there is a war in the anti-trump movement with the cruz people going after kasich for the first time in a meaningful way and the never trump people telling cruz people layoff kasich and focus on trump. that's the only way to stop trump. >> on the democratic side, josh, sanders seems to be really gaining a lot of confidence. take a listen to what he just said. >> if we win in new york state, between you and me, i don't want to get hillary clinton more nervous than she already is. she is already under a lot of pressure. >> you know, the delegate math would lead you to believe that he doesn't really stand a chance here, but is he really making the clinton camp nervous? >> sure. the clinton camp is nervous. we have seen this. the bottom line is they are way up in new york. all polls show that. they want to minimize chances that something big might happen to change that. the biggest way that could happen is the debate that they are currently scheduling. bernie sanders might as well go ahead and press on to new york. he's really got no other choice. if everything stays the same, the clinton camp should be fine. this is politics. especially when there's a debate coming up, nobody knows who could happen. and sacrifice what seems to be a clear path to the nomination. >> fine. not particularly painful. josh rogin, thank you. talk to you in a little bit. the economy and jobs will likely be a top issue for voters in wisconsin. something we have seen in almost every primary state. wisconsin's unemployment rate is 4.6% below the national average of 5%. the median home price in february was $146,000. the median income is almost $53,000. close to the national average. a pew research study found wisconsin has the fastest shrinking middle class since the year 2000. some due to the drop in manufacturing jobs. the state provides a quarter of the nation's cheese. more than any other state. it's the second largest dairy producer behind california. have you tried wisconsin ched cheddar? 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like ten. every week. it's the end of trump. they walk in, sir, i don't know what happened, but poll numbers went through the roof. >> cnn's sara murray is with the latest on the trump campaign. >> reporter: good morning. trump spent the last hours before the primary barnstorming the state. trump coming off a rocky week, he decided to focus energy on the gop opponents. he hit ted cruz hard and went after john kasich calling him to step aside and get out of the race. >> he takes my votes away more than cruz. i don't like it. i don't think it's right. i don't think it's appropriate. you know what? if we have to live with him, we still beat him easily. okay? >> reporter: now he also brought reinforcements on the campaign trail. here in milwaukee, he was joined by his wife melania trump. >> as you may know by now, when you attack him, he will punch back ten times harder. no matter who you are, a man or a woman, he treats everyone equal. he's a fighter. if you elect him to be your president he will fight for you and for our country. >> reporter: back to you. >> joining us now to breakdown the wisconsin primary and the stakes for both parties' candidates, josh rogin. a columnist for bloomberg view. what is at stake here? >> the stakes could not be higher. for the trump campaign, they are looking to reverse the narrative in the last two weeks which has been terrible for trump. they are doing it in the most difficult circumstance imaginable. we look at the delegate count. trump has to proceed pace to get to 1,237. wisconsin is tough ground for him. we are looking at republican primary in wisconsin which is more educated and more suburban than the national average. that is all bad for trump. it looks like iowa. it is a state where we know ted cruz prevailed. trump is facing a popular governor. he is really fighting an uphill battle here. if he's able to prevail in wisconsin and anywhere from five to ten points down, he can change the narrative heading into the prolonged period of not any important primaries. the next contest that matter are april 19th in new york and april 26th in pennsylvania and maryland. >> it is interesting listening to ted cruz. he is spending a lot of time on the campaign trail battling the notion that someone else not running right now could be the republican nominee at a convention. with the harsher language than he used to date. let's listen to what ted cruz said. >> you know, this fevered pipe dream of washington that at the convention they will parachute in some white knight who will save the washington establishment. it is nothing less than a pipe dream. it ain't going to happen. if it did, the people would quite rightly revolt. >> the people would revolt. that is caustic language. if it is not trump or him, there will be problems is what he is saying. >> ted cruz is using risky language. he is responding to inside republican operatives for a unity candidate. if we get to a second or third ballot in cleveland where all or most of the delegates being unbound, the idea is you would parachute in. if it is not paul ryan, it could be a senior military figure. someone to claim to lord over trump voters and cruz voters and bring everybody together to head up against hillary clinton. that is an outside scenario. what we saw rnc chairman reince priebus say over the weekend is he thinks it is one of the three candidates. it could be trump, cruz or kasich. that is the kasich strategy as well. all of these are scenarios that are yet to play out. for ted cruz, his calculation is clear. he wants to make sure that the first ballot with only the candidates with the majority of states, that is he and trump, will have a chance for the nomination. >> both trump and cruz are calling for kasich to drop out of the race. kasich is showing signs of getting angry over the request for him to drop out at this stage. take a listen. >> everybody needs to chill out. i'm in new york. we'll do well here. i'm going to pennsylvania. we're excited about that. we'll go to an open convention where kids will learn more about picking presidents than spending time on snapchat. >> just on snapchat. what do you make of kasich's game plan? what do you think he's going to do? >> kasich's only chance is to get to the contested convention and second or third ballot and to claim that mantle we were talking about being the unity candidate. to do so, he will claim that with some evidence that he is the best positioned to face hillary clinton in a general election. for cruz, it is a more complicated calculation. for months, we said all of the non trump candidates have wasted a lot of money and time and effort attacking each other rather than going after trump. for a short period, they seemed to figure it out and decided to train fire on trump. now cruz is caught between short-term goal which is win wisconsin which is not assured. that will give him a bunch of delegates versus his long-term goal. if he was really honest with us and with himself, he would know keeping kasich in the race is better for him. the only way to keep trump from getting to the 1,237 number. if you look to april 19th, april 26th primaries. that's not cruz territory. he's not going to do well there. he needs kasich to stay in to keep trump from getting all of the delegates. right now, he is making the calculation is good for him in attacking kasich. everybody knows kasich in the election is better for cruz than kasich out of the election. >> josh, quickly, the democratic race. bernie sanders says hillary clinton is nervous. nervous about wisconsin where she is trailing in the polls. nervous here in her home state of new york where bernie sanders says he is making inroads. how nervous? >> they don't like what's going on. they lost five of the last six. it looks like they may get beat in wisconsin. that is a bad message. the longer that message lingers out there, the more damage it does to her in the long run. they have good reason to be nervous. they are taking solace in the fact that the republican race is more contentious. they are looking at the april 14th debate which was torturous to organize. to make sure the voters know that hillary clinton is still ready for primetime. still willing to take on bernie sanders as he hangs around. if she wins by more than ten in the new york primary, i think then you will see a sigh of relief from the decliclinton can that they have enough to win the nomination and even if bernie sanders peels off a couple more states here and there. they can rest assured that his late resurgence will not have been enough. >> the april 14th debate by the way here on cnn. it will be excitement. josh rogin, thanks. time for an early start on your money. dow futures are slipping as oil drops now below $36 a barrel. markets in europe are down as well. shares in asia sinking overnight. let's focus on one big stock. apple is about to hit a major milestone. selling its 1 billionth iphone. first device went on sale in june of 2007. if forecasts are accurate, apple will hit the 1 billion mark in july. that could come sooner if the sales of the se are bigger than expected. apple sold more iphones than ipads and ipods. it brought in enough revenue to place fifth on the fortune 500 list. >> you should get a prize. denials and outrage after a data leak reveals how the super wealthy may be hiding billions. they sato make a sunscreenle... you can apply to wet skin. a wrinkle cream that works in one week. and a shampoo that washes away the residue hair care products can leave behind. but we did it. no wonder dermatologists recommend neutrogena® 2 times more than any other brand. we're always re-thinking what's possible in skincare. that's just how we roll. neutrogena®. see what's possible. and to connect us with thes twonderment of nature. with the tiger image, the saliva coming off and you got this turning. that's why i need this kind of resolution and computing power. being able to use a pen like this on the screen directly with the image, it just gives me a different relationship to it and i can't do that on my mac. this is brilliant for me. whewhat does it look like?ss, is it becoming a better professor by being a more adventurous student? 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>> reporter: cristina, we though authorities are trying to root out any members of the network that could be attached to the attacks or other attacks. what you have in the case is a growing number of suspects the authorities are looking at. a dozen people tried in absentia in the cases in belgium. it is not clear what connection they could have to the paris or brussels terror cells. there is a small group authorities are linking to the paris and brussels attacks. we know they are looking for at least eight people who have connections to abdelhamid abaaoud, regarded as the ringleader of the paris attacks and also to salah abdeslam, the outstanding suspect in the paris attacks detained here in brussels last month. beyond more than a dozen who they are looking for widely and beyond the circle of eight, you have the immediate manhunt which continues in brussels for the two outstanding attackers who are believed to have carried out the attack at the airport. two died in the blast and one whom authorities are searching for. no word publicly from authorities on whether or not they come any closer to identifying who either of those two men are. cristina. >> thanks, alexandra for excellent reporting. let's get an early start on your money. global selloff is under way. dow futures are lower. oil prices weighing on stocks here in the u.s. slipping back below $37 a barrel. markets in europe opening with losses. shares in asia tanked overnight after japan's top banker said interest rates in the country could go lower into negative territory. the treasury department could derail one of the biggest corporate mergers of all time. a move to stop so-called corporate inversions unveiled yesterday. inversions are when a company moves headquarters overseas to avoid taxes. this put the merger between pfizer and allegan up in the air. it limits tax deductions and certain audit transactions. companies use them to increase profits and value for shareholders. definitely attention there. shares of allergan taking a beating down 20% in pre-market trading. on to politics. a critical primary election today. that could shake up the race for president. "new day" starts now. we're going to have a very, very big victory. very, very big. >> this is not the time for circus side shows. >> let me be unpresidential for just a little while ago. >> i think they're his tear cal. >> i'm confident that i will be the nominee. >> i think the secretary is getting very nervous. >> more than a dozen suspected jihadists are now looking across europe. >> we're looking for a needle in a hey stack. >> to that will go down as one of the approximate best game winners in basketball history. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> was that to win it? >> yeah. >> what a game last night. we'll talk about it. there is a lot of news. a lot of news. welcome to you. it is 6:00 in the east. al is sin off. j.b. here with mick and i. wisconsin voters getting ready to change the race. donald trump, hillary clinton, big tests heading into tonight. the drama is weighted more toward the gop side. the big question, can senator ted cruz change the calculus with a big win. the one thing cruz and trump agree on is governor kasich should drop out. but that ain't happening. >> this as they battle it out in wisconsin. razor-tight race. they have agreed to debate next week ahead of the new york primary. a debate, by the way, that will will air here on cnn. could wisconsin, though, spell trouble for both hillary clinton and donald trump? cnn all over this key primary day. i want to begin with cnn's phil mattingly here with us. >> good morning, zone. it has been a week for donald trump. a week that could set his campaign back. or it could mark a comeback. trump's advisers acknowledging that he is in trouble in wisconsin the last couple of days. trump still willing to predict this could be a big comeback story. both vying for the huge 42 delegates at stake in wisconsin tonight.