world's attention today was focused on a horrific tragedy in brazil, the death toll tonight at least 230 after a fast-moving fire broke out in a crowded nightclub. officials say too many people and too few exits turned the club into a death trap after a rock band's pyrotechnics apparently ignited the ceiling. many patrons were left unable to get out, overwhelmed by the smoke, and in some cases, the flames themselves much the circumstances are eerily similar to some other deadly nightclub fires the past several years, including one in this country. today's tragedy happened in the southern brazilen university town of santa maria. nbc's mike taibbi reports. >> reporter: the kiss nightclub was packed with the usual saturday night crowd when at 2:00 in the morning, a disaster. the ground floor was filled with smoke. club security initially blocked several emergency exits, thinking patrons were leaving without paying and that left only a few ways out.
in the ensuing panic, many victims were trampled, others died of smoke inhalation. witnesses told police the fire was sparked by a pyrotechnics show on stage, according to nick ravenskroft of itv news. >> the stunt on stage with the flare made the ceiling catch fire. >> reporter: whatever the precise cause, the fire spread incredibly quickly as the crowd struggled to find ways to safety. some clubgoers who did make it out, joined firemen and onlookers in their attempts to open new escape routes using sledge hammers and axes, but it was too late for many inside. does of victims were carried to arising ambulances, if they survived. santa maria's major trauma hospital was quickly overwhelmed. >> translator: the injured are scattered around the hospital. those waiting for news outside are desperate. >> reporter: they were desperate, too, outside the club, as more and more bodies of those who hadn't survived were laid on the ground. the numbers of the dead rose so
quickly that the city morgue ran out of room. the bodies of scores of victims were brought, instead, to a local gymnasium. eat merging details of this disaster, a packed club, too few escape route and a fire triggered by on-stage pyrotechnics brought to mind several other similar nightclub tragedies. there was a 2003 inferno in west warwick, rhode island's, station nightclub that claimed 100 victims much the 2004 blaze in ba when knows aires with 200 victims. but as brazil's president consoled relatives of the victims here, her country, soon to host the world cup and the olympics, remains in shock at one of its worst modern tragedies. mike taibbi, nbc news, los angeles. now to the middle east, an angry egyptian president took to the air waves tonight to announce tough new measures aimed at ending the violence that has claimed at least 50 lifts the last three days. the violent protests in cairo and several other industries
been the biggest challenge yet toz mohamed morsi's government. let's go to cairo for the latest. >> reporter: it is mohamed morsi's biggest test as president of this country. on one hand, an increasing security vacuum across the country, on the other, a political crisis with the country's political parties. tonight, in an address to the nation, he delivered a strong warping. even burying the dead in egypt is now deadly. today in port sayyid, a day after 37 people were killed in protests, thousands walked to mourn them. the grief and prayer turned into fear and chaos. this amateur video, which we couldn't independently ver, if i reportsedly shows the moment the clashes with police turned deadly. meantime, as thousands mourned in port said, others fought in cairo, alexandria and suez. tonight, the country's embattled president, mohamed morsi, addressed the nation, declaring a state of emergency and
imposing a curfew in the cities with the worst fighting. the country's powerful military is back on the street guarding government buildings recently attacked by protesters. and the military wants more power. today, the military requested the right to arrest civilians who break the law, this general said. two years ago, egypt's street full of optimism and hope as united people toppled a dictator. today, stifling tear gas and plumes of smoke filled the air of a divided country. egypt's police are struggling to cope with the protesters. they, too, have suffered losses and are angry. when the country's interior minister came today to pay his respects to fallen policemen, he was hackled by grieving colleagues and their families. and as it has for the past three days, night fall brought more violence. tonight, outside a luxury five-star cairo hotel. with a predictable-like precision, police charged the crowd, firing tear gas but
minutes later, protesters returned, lobbing stones and setting fires to block roads. there are few words president morsi can say to calm these protesters. this man tells me that the president must resign and a new constitution must be written. another says only protests work with a regime that kills its people. president mohamed morsi has invited members of the leading opposition political forces tomorrow for emergency talks on the way out. many people are hoping there will be a breakthrough that could end the four days of deadly violence that have engulfed the country. >> thank you. in this country, the weather remains a big concern for many people in the midwest, where a deep freeze is bringing snow, sleet and freezing rain. the weather channel's mike seidel is in davenport, iowa, tonight with the latest. mike, good evening to you. >> reporter: good evening, lester. it was an icy day across many part its of the midwest. the hardest hit areas were the roads and the airports. at chicago's o'hare, just over
200 flights have been canceled so far, but despite the ice, there wasn't a lot of it there wasn't many power outables. tonight, the temperatures on the way up that will change the freezing rain to rain in chicago in chicago and many areas, like it has here. monday, the snow, sleet and ice will head to the northeast during the day you reaching boston by late afternoon. any snow totals will be on the light side. but for millions that have been in the ice box, the jetstream is our friend. southwest winds from texas to the great lakes will produce a huge warmup. we could see our first 90-degree day in the lower 48 this year in deep south texas. temperatures elsewhere more than 20 to 25 degrees above average. subzero windchills will be replaced by highs in the 40s and 50s on monday. and by tuesday, d.c. cracks 60 and atlanta pushes 70. but many of us will get another shot of frigid air following this fall and that cold front will have lots of wind energy that will help to fire up some big thunderstorms, possibly severe, from houston and dallas to little rock and st. louis on tuesday.
there could be some tornadoes but more than likely, quite a bit of straight line wind damage. and then after that, the bottom falls out on temperatures. for example, lester, chicago will drop 45 degrees between tuesday and thursday. so enjoy the thaw while you can. back to you. >> all right, we will take what we can. mike seidel, thanks. national transportation safety board tonight says further examination of batteries on boeing's new 787 has yet to point to the cause of the january 7th fire on board a japan air lines jet at boston's logan airport. that fire followed days later by a smoking battery aboard another 787 in japan led to a worldwide grounding of the revolutionary new planes. lack of progress in both investigations has raised concerns the planes will remain grounded indefinitely. in washington, the battles over guns and immigration reform are taking center stage this week, as president obama pushes his second term agenda. nbc's peter alexander is at the white house and has more on that.
hi, peter. >> reporter: lester, good evening to you. the president isn't wasting in i time in his second term, tackling two of his top priorities. specifically on immigration, one democratic senator said measures formerly off the table are now back up for discussion. barely a week into his second term, president obama is preparing to dive into the contentious issue of immigration, with a major speech set for las vegas tuesday. the president is expected to push for improving border security you expanding the system for employers to verify their workers a legal status and perhaps most controversially, creating a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. >> we can't go on forever with 11 million people living in this country in the shadows in an illegal status. >> we are committed to a comprehensive approach to finally in this country have an immigration law that we can live with. >> reporter: a bipartisan group of six seine stores planning to unveil its immigration reform proposals this week. last november, president obama won more than 70% of the latino vote, a new political reality
forcing some republicans to reconsider their past opposition. >> first of all, americans support it in poll after poll. secondly, latino voters expect t third, the democrats want it and fourth, republicans need it. >> reporter: senator marco rubio in a nevada newspaper today insisted illegal immigrants must earn their new citizenship. we can't round up millions of people and deport them but we also can't fix our broken immigration system if we provide incentives for people to come here illegally. also front and center, the battle over guns. president obama telling the new "republic" magazine that advocates of gun control have to do a little more listening than they do sometimes. asked if he has ever fired a gun, mr. obama said, up at camp david we do skeet shooting all the time, like jfk used to years ago. on "meet the press," former vice presidential candidate paul ryan referred to last month's newtown tragedy as a watershed moment. >> it's our worst nightmare, something like this happening. let's go beyond just this debate and make sure we get deeper.
what's our policy on mental illness? what's going on in our culture that produces this kind of thing? >> reporter: and for its part, congress will hold its first hearing on gun violence, lester, this wednesday. one other note, by the way, about the president's interview with the new "republic," one one week before the super bowl, the president weighing in on football, if he had a son, we have to think long and hard before letting him play to the game, referring to the violence in the sport. >> peter, thank you. still in washington, the education department is taking action to make sure disabled school children are not shut out from school sports programs. nbc's chief education correspondent rehema ellis has that story. >> reporter: it was a big week for 13-year-old owen grosser. get in there. >> reporter: sinking not one but two three-pointers the first time he stepped out onto the court this season. owen, an eighth grader, has down syndrome. disabled students like him already have the right to participate in school sports but this week, the department of
education released new guidelines on how to incorporate those students onto teams, something some cash-strapped schools have struggled with. >> we have needed more cooperation, more guidelines from the top. and we believe this is going to lead to some standardization and certainly more opportunity for these families and kids. >> reporter: some of the doe's suggestions are simple, a visual cue for hearing-impaired student who wants to run track, the elimination of the two-hand touch rule in swimming so a student with one arm can compete. but the recommendations also state when existing school programs cannot accommodate those with disabilities, the school district should create additional opportunities for those students, meaning, a new team. although some liken it to title ix, the department of education cautions against that comparison, saying these are guidelines, not a mandate. schools will not be required to dismantel an existing team because they don't have enough disabled students to field a comparable team.
>> we have been age to create one or two teams per school district, you're not going to find enough students in one school to necessarily start a team. >> push. push for the basket. >> reporter: adam mcwork, an eighth grader, has cerebral palsy, he lives outside atlanta, an area that has been successfully mainstreaming disabled students in sports for years. >> yes, sir. he used a walker to get around with and we didn't think that sports was something that he could do at all. >> reporter: now, he stands like every proud dad on the sidelines. >> my son scored his first goal in the final game, so excited about that the gym was so loud. we'd good time. shoot it, baby. >> reporter: something more families across the country may soon experience. >> oh, yeah. >> reporter: rehema ellis you nbc news, new york. when nightly news continues on this sunday, your money and the fees that merchants can now charge when you pay by credit card. later, the golden age club, friends for years pulled apart
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we're back with a story involving your money. you may not see it right away but fees for buying things by credit card may be on the rise with merchants starting today now permitted to hit with you a surcharge when you use certain credit cards. we get the story tonight from nbc's katy tur. >> reporter: if you felt like you were digging even deeper into your pocket yesterday, keep your eyes open today. businesses can now charge you for using your credit card. >> this is great news for retailers, not very good news for consumers, which have never had to pay these kind of surcharges when they use credit cards. >> reporter: it is the fallout from a class action settlement
last july giving merchantance option to tack as much as a 4% surcharge onto your bill if you're paying with a visa or master card. >> it would change my shopping patterns, definitely. >> i would carry cash all the time. >> reporter: you may be familiar with gas stations charging one price for cash and another for plastic but could the same happen in shops, restaurants and even doctors offices? in this highly competitive marketplace among retailers and an economy that is really trying to get the consumer back to spending, i highly doubt that retailers are going to charge this fee. >> reporter: in fact, the national retail federation polled its members and found that none planned to add the fee. toys "r" us and target told nbc news they would not pass the buck to their shoppers. retail analysts say that's because most big chain stores have the ability to negotiate lower fees with credit card companies. but small businesses don't have the big chain bargaining power. silvia karch is the own other of a vintage clothing store.
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whose lives were up-ended by sandy and how they were brought back together. here's nbc's michelle franzen. >> reporter: annie hezlin makes tea in her temporary apartment in brooklyn and sorts through some of her photos, some some of the only possessions she has left after losing her breezy point home in superstorm sandy. >> with he an imagined to survive and we are very grateful for that and that is the thing we have to remember, that lives are more important than things. >> reporter: the storm devastated the close-knit community and forced residents to relocate. including members of annie's social group, the golden age club. the women used to meet every tuesday at st. thomas more church, still under repair from flood damage. this weekend, annie and dozens of golden age members boarded a bus. >> hi, rose. >> reporter: first time they were able to see each other in three months.
>> wonderful reunion. it's greet see every ebb and everybody looks good. >> reporter: their destination, manhattan's nightingale been aford, an all-girls school, where the women prin is righted to share their stories, an exchange between generations. >> and this one house slipped with the wind right over the walk and into the other house. >> reporter: that included emotional stories of survival. >> but the water was coming down from the walls. it was coming into the windows. >> reporter: lorraine larson says talking with students and reuniting with her friends helped her realize she's not alone. >> all in the same boat, we're all hurting. we all are longing to be back home. >> reporter: students say the gathering is a reminder of the challenges sandy victims still face. >> talking to them, we found out that they still are suffering a lot of the loss. >> reporter: despite their loss, these golden girls are still singing. ♪ i'm gonna let it shine
>> reporter: and certainly, their best days are still ahead. michelle franzen, nbc news, new york. that's "nbc nightly news" for this sunday. brian williams will be here tomorrow. i'm lester holt reporting from new york. for all of us here at nbc news, good night.
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on this sunday night -- on alert. after almost two dozen american embassies are closed, the u.s. goes further, tonight broadening its order in what some call the most serious terror threat since the 9/11 attacks. boardwalk rampage. a california man faces a charge of murder after allegedly driving his car into a crowdof hundreds, killing a woman on her honeymoon and injuring 11 others. up in the air. yankees slugger add ex-rodriguez about to find out how long he'll be suspended in baseball's highest profile scandal involving performance enhancing drugs. back to school. means a big tax break for many parents shopping for school supplies, but not everyone thinks it's a good idea.
and fantastic voyage. as a group of american treasure hunters strike it rich, very rich, at the bottom of the sea. good evening. just a short time ago, the state department announced it will extend the closings of some u.s. embassies in the face of a serious and credible, but so far unspecified, terror threat against american tro interests overseas. some two dozen embassies and consulates were closed today as a precaution as we learn more about the level and gravity the intelligence officials are acting upon. the consensus seems to be the threat is very real, but it's the targets that appear to be anyone's guess, which is why a worldwide warning remains in effect for americans traveling abroad. once again, tonight we're tracking all angles of this story, christian welker starts us off at the white house.
good evening, kristen. >> reporter: good evening. tonight the state department announced two dozen of the diplomatic posts closed today will remain closed through next weekend and four additional closures through the week. the reason given? an abundance of caution because of the muslim holy month of ramadan. back from camp david, president obama is getting regular briefings by his national security team on the threat that has shuddered posts in north africa and the middle east. >> there's been a lot of chatter, chatter means conversations among terrorists about the planning that's going on, very reminiscent of what we saw pre-9/11. >> reporter: according to two top u.s. officials, the terror plot could include one large attack or simultaneous attacks around the world. but the intelligence still isn't crystal-clear. embassies and consulates from cairo to kabul are bracing themselves. although the streets of kabul were calm today, the embassy was
still closed and will remain on high alert. of the compound has been a target in the past by insurgents, particularly by the haqqani network, an al qaeda affiliated group. national security officials told nbc news today the threat is coming directly from al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, based in yemen, a terror group getting stronger in recent years. >> it's more dangerous because now we have what i call 2.0 or 3.0 which is widely disbursed, a anewer group. >> reporter: meanwhile, tighter screen for overseas flights. >> it always makes you nervous, but you have to carry on. just keep on going. >> i'm really worried because my wife is going to saudi arabia. >> reporter: and this morning fresh debate about the nsa's surveillance program, which intelligence officials say tipped them off about this latest threat. >> it is scary. al qaeda is on the rise in this part of the world, and the nsa program has proven its worth yet
again. >> you have to be very careful about how much you represent that any particular program has contributed to our security. >> reporter: and tonight nbc is reporting that officials in pakistan has tightened security in islamabad due to a potential terror threat interethere, but s hour there's no link between the two. >> the embassy in cairo is among those affected by this order. tonight our chief foreign correspondent richard engel has more on precautions there and insight into are where this threat is coming from. >> reporter: good evening, lester. these are the side streets around the u.s. embassy here in downtown cairo. the embassy today is closed like so many embassies and consulates in the region, and as you can see the embassy tonight is right behind this very big, very imposing concrete barricade. this wall went up about a year ago after a group of demonstrators tried to storm ip inside the compound. this time we're told the threat
goes right back to yes, ma'am p, specifically to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, which is based in yemen. the group is considered capable. it has many skilled bomb makers. and it is also motivated right now because in the middle of last month one of the group's deputy commanders was killed in a drone strike. the man who has replaced them, the group's new leader, is considered perhaps even more dangerous at one stage he was osama bin laden's secretary. and some intelligence analysts say he may be wanting to prove himself to try and exert himself on the international stage by carrying out some sort of terror attack in yemen or abroad. but not all u.s. diplomats are happy with this situation. they say there needs to be xurpt, but they also say they can't do their jobs if they're locked behind big walls like this one. lester? >> richard engel reporting from cairo. let's bring in our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. andrea, we know from previous experience the u.s. can't
maintain this red alert posture indefinitely so what's the plan going forward here? >> it really is day by day. the intelligence of an impending attack as you're reporting is serious but they still don't know the specific target. there are several other threats, possibility for the retaliation for the drone strike richard just mentioned and a threatening speech last week by ayman al zawahiri. the upcoming anniversary this week of bombings of tanzania and elsewhere and of course ramadan. after wrestling with whether to closing the additional posts they decided to err on the side of caution. in los angeles, a man is in custody facing a charge of murder after allegedly driving a car into a crowd of people enjoying themselves on the boardwalk in the popular venice beach area. a woman on her honeymoon was killed and 11 others injured. nbc's miguel alma ger is there with the latest. miguel? >> reporter: good evening, on a summer weekend this boardwalk is
packed with thousands of people, it was a similar scene yesterday when the car slammed into that group of pedestrians, including that woman who was here on her honeymo honeymoon. security cameras capture the moment of impact. look closely at the top of the screen as a car plows through the crowd. just moments earlier, the driver is seen entering the car, then speeding away. a second camera shows pedestrians leaping for their lives. >> we have a critical situation. we need a driver. >> reporter: chaos and panic ensue. at least a dozen people were struck by a driver who witnesses say appeared to be aiming for the crowd. victims strewn everywhere. >> one of the medics from 67th working on the critical patient. >> the scene was really bad. there were tables, people everywhere, blood everywhere. there was scattered stuff. it was horrible. >> reporter: 32-year-old italian
woman visiting california while on her honeymoon was killed. >> i saw a girl go over his roof and another girl ended up over there. >> reporter: another victim is in critical condition, ten others hospitalized. >> i'm never going to forget that moment. it was surreal. he was zigzagging and i ran. >> reporter: hours lairpt, the damaged sedan was found abandoned. investigators say a 35-year-old man turned himself will into police late saturday night. >> detectives have booked nathan campbell for a murder that took place last night. >> reporter: of the venice boardwalk is one of southern california's most popular attractions. the famed muscle beach and miles of coastline an international draw. tonight the crowds are back as many remember the victims and police look to answer the question so many here are asking -- why? tonight, the outpouring of support is coming in from around
the globe. a.c. milan has expressed its convict dole evens for the 32-year-old newlywed killed here, her father a former team executive. suspensions are expected tomorrow for alex rodriguez and other major league players accused of using performance enhancing drugs. a-rod is by far the highest profile and highest paid among them and faces the most severe punishment. we get a report from nbc's ron mott. >> reporter: alex rodriguez is poised to receive the costliest suspension ever levied in baseball, a penalty that could approach $35 million and perhaps effectively end the 38-year-old slugger's career. on monday, sources tell nbc sports the controversial player will be suspended through the 20 fla 14 season for obstructing the investigation into p.e.d.s. >> it's very clear that baseball is serious about this. they may have gotten religion on it late, but once they did they
got serious. they're showing no favoritism. >> reporter: rodriguez has been tuning up in the minor leagues. before rejoining the yankees monday in chicago for the first time all year, after off-season hip surgery. friday he held court, upbeat, smiling, yet he complained about what he deemed were efforts to cancel his remaining yankees contract worth nearly $100 million. but late saturday, after reports circulated a severe sanction had been settled on by commissioner bud selig, a different rodriguez. [ inaudible ] >> i plan to set my girls down with cynthia and we're going to have a lengthy conversation. and i'll have an opportunity to tell it all. at some point. i'll have that platform and when the time is right, i'll tell my full story. >> reporter: in january, a-rod's name surfaced if a miami-area newspaper report along with other big leaguers who will also
be suspended tomorrow about a clinic allegedly supplying steroids and other banned drugs to athletes. the foundation of the report documents taken by a former employee, disgruntled about not getting back all of a $4,000 loan he made to the company founder. a modest sum of money now having extraordinary financial impact that could reshape baseball for years to come. a-roded is expected to appeal any suspension and he still could be eligible to take the field tomorrow in chicago. lester? >> ron, thank you. in the west, residents are recovering from severe weather in colorado. parts of the state hit by heavy rains and flooding last night, high winds and at least half a dozen confirmed tornadoes, most of them causing little damage. the storms moved into neighboring kansas causing severe flash flooding. and one more note from overseas tonight. the man who was the face of iran in all its hostility toward this country was officially replaced today by a new president who is at least talking about more
dialogue with the west. tonight nbc's ann curry is inside iran and reports on the shift in power. >> reporter: on iran state television, the transfer of power from milwaukee mahmadinej full of goodwill. we never heard this from president ahmadinejad. >> translator: the only way to engage with iran on common issues is to build trust on both sides. a mutual respect and by lowering tensions between each other. >> reporter: perhaps as significant as the new president's message is today's orchestration of the international press. this inauguration has turned into a world press event and really only for one reason -- the world is worried iran could soon have the bomb. and iran give the media, a show. its modern parliament a setting for a television spectacular. for the first time, heads of
state from all over the world were invited, with the notable exception of the united states and israel. while afghanistan's hamid karzai and top official from north korea were in attendance, heads of state from western europe were not. after his remarks, the president immediately named his entire cabinet, most fell on moderates. he was clearly signaling the direction he wants iran to go and how fast. ann curry, nbc news, tehran. when "nightly news" continues on this sunday, who wouldn't want a nice break on costly back-to-school shopping? we'll tell you why some are not so excited. and they didn't strike gold, but it's the next best thing. tonight a real silver lining, and it is worth a fortune.
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it's the start of august and a back-to-school ritual has begun. the annual shopping spree for school supply that's can cost hundreds of dollars. to make it a little easier, more states are offering breaks on the sales tax, but is this good policy? we get more tonight from nbc's chief education correspondent. >> reporter: it's that time of year again. >> get one of these. >> reporter: all across the country, moms and dads are crowding the stores to stock up on school supplies. getting their little ones ready to go back to school. >> we tried to get here as early as we could to avoid the craziness. >> two weeks out i start saving and looking for deals. >> it is very surprising how much we spend. >> reporter: terri is shopping for three today. >> tough in the economy right now. >> we will probably be around $150 for three students. >> reporter: the pencils, pens and binders can quickly add up, which is why some states are giving parents a break from paying the sales tax. at least 17 states are waiving
the tax on school supplies and clothing, 12 states doing so this weekend. >> it makes a difference when you're spending a chunk of money. any little bit you can save. >> reporter: discounts on the tax break all benefit the consum consumer, but can the states afford to lose the rove knew right now? >> there's a real risk that six to 12 months from now the revenues gone today will be sorely missed because of slower economic growth. >> reporter: states do lose out on potentially mm-hillions of dollars in sales tax revenue very hard to recoup. and once the states start a sales tax holiday it becomes very popular with the consumer tks's very hard for the states to pull back on it. >> reporter: especially when shoppers are watching the bottom line and tightening those purse strings. the average family will spend around $635 this year, down almost 8% from about $688 last year. >> the name of the game for parents this year really is
reuse what you can and of course buy what you need. they're going to spend with practicality and cost in mind. >> as a mom, i feel like that's amy job, to save where we can, whether it be buying in bulk or recycling and things like that. >> reporter: and hoping that those sales tax breaks will return the next school year. nbc news, orlando, florida. there's more to tell you about tonight, including the plight of the puffin and a warning for all of us. how uncomfortable it can be. [ crickets chirping ] but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? [ exhales deeply ] [ male announcer ] well there is biotene. specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants, biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. [ applause ] biotene -- for people who suffer from dry mouth.
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of sea birds. >> reporter: puffins have bright orange beaks and black and white bodies. they are deceptively fast, flying at speeds of up to 55 miles per hour. hunted a century ago for food and feathers, they disappeared from seal island, a pile of granite slabs off of coast of maine, now a national wildlife refuge. there are 500 pairs of puffins here today, thanks to 40 years of work by dr. steve press of the national autobahn society and the u.s. fish and wildlife service. >> we don't to sit on the sidelines and watch species go extinct. >> reporter: but kres says these diving birds face a new threat. today's threat comes from the sea, warming water temperatures are changing the ocean, and that in turn is changing the puffins' diet. puffins eat cold water fish. harder to find last summer when the water here was five degrees warmer than normal. scientist jeffrey rung says it's part of a decade-long warming
trend happening ten times faster than in the last century. >> this may have well had an effect on where herring feed and consequently if herring aren't where the puffins need to be, the puffins will go search other food. >> reporter: what they found last summer the chicks couldn't swallow so many starved to death. this year, kres says there are 20% fewer puffins in burrows and are nesting two weeks laifrpt, all signs of stress for the birds and perhaps us. >> there's many industries, including lobsters, who use herring for bait to catch lobsters. and if the food is too far away for the puchs, it will be too far away for people as well will. >> reporter: a warning from nature, some believe, in a colorful and charismatic package. anne thompson, nbc news, on seal island, maine. another big win and a record to report today for american swimmer missy franklin. the 18-year-old franklin claimed her sixth gold medal at the world championship in barcelona as part of a 400-meter medley relay. franklin became the most winning
female swimmer ever at the world championships. another milestone to report. president obama celebrating his 52nd birthday today. these days, what birthday would be be complete without a few words on twitter? among others, bill clinton offered his thoughts to 44 happy birthday at barack obama from 42. another political note, a follow-up on a story 0 a few weeks ago, tonight the results are in and 4-year-old bobby tufts is a very happy young man, having just won reelection as the certify moanial mayor of dorsett, minnesota, population 22. after a hard-fought campaign, bobby's name was pulled from a hat again at the annual town fair. when we come back, we'll go on a treasure hunt you won't want to miss. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation.
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finally tonight, a story that gives a new meaning to silver lining. treasure hunters scored one for the record books when they recovered more than 100 tons of silver from a british ship that was sunk during world war ii. and what a payday it was. nbc's kerry sanders tonight. >> reporter: off the coast of ireland, three miles down, american treasure hunters found the mother lode. in waters deeper than the titanic, bars of precious silver, in all 110 tons. >> fantastic. hasn't quite sunk in yet, but it's starting to dawn on me now
what we've achieved out here. >> reporter: the gair sop pa was a british steamship torpedoed in 1941 by one of hitler's u-boats. the cargo traveling to great britain to fund the war effort. in all, the sal raj team pulled up 2,792 silver inningities. >> hn his majesty mint, bombay. >> we're sitting on $700,000 worth of silver. >> yeah. >> and the numbers are a bit mind-boggling. i just see them as very heavy lumps of waste we've been pulled around. >> reporter: the final silver bar was pulled to the surface days ago. >> that's the last one. >> reporter: 20% goes to the british government, the treasure hunters odyssey marine treasure hunters get 80% of a treasure that exceeds $77 million. >> this is the deepest recovery of precious metal ever done. it's a world record. the water depth is almost 15,000 feet, about three miles deep. >> reporter: also recovered,
letters. >> oh, my god, here's a stamp on the letter. india postage. >> reporter: newspapers from 1941 and financial records. >> manufacturers life insurance company. this actually may be worth something to this family if it can be tracked down. >> reporter: so what happens to all this silver in the vault? it's headed to the british mint, the same mint that's striking commemorative coins for the newborn prince. because this could be the target of thieves, all i can say is kerry sanders, nbc news, somewhere in great britain. >> that's "nbc nightly news" for this sunday. brian williams will be here tomorrow. will i'm lester holt reporting from new york. for all of us here at nbc news, good night.
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we look forward to seeing that kick off. that's going to do it for a wednesday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ the top democrat in the u.s. senate majority leader harry reid has now mentioned the bill nra koch brothers this year more than 140 times. >>er in in it to make the money. an attempt to buy our democracy. it's dishonest, deceptive, farce and unfair. >> it is wrong. incorrect. [ laughter ] erroneous. [ laughter ] >> even the keystone debate, mr. president, they're one of the main owners of all that stuff up there. that ugly tar stuff in canada. they are, if not the largest, second largest owner of that stuff up there. [ laughter ] good morning.
hey will. >> good morning, it's wednesday, may the 14th, on set, along with me, we've got joe here that's here. >> that's all. >> msnbc. >> it's a good show, right? >> yes. >> you can't always predict who is going to be here. >> it's exciting. >> it's interesting, it remains the name of the show. mike barnicle is here. former communications director for george w. bush, nicolle wallace. >> jon stewart went in last night. and landed another blow right here. >> this guy spent millions fighting online gambling. tens of millions fighting organized labor. in the 2012 presidential election he gave $90 million to republican candidates. perhaps because he thought he would help him take on quote,
radical islam and unions. yeah, that's right. laugh harry reid is going to crush this guy. >> so don't pick on him. >> wait? sorry, what did you say there? don't pick on the billionaire that puts money in politics. >> he's not in this for money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. [ laughter ] >> what the [ bleep ] difference does that make? [ laughter ] what are his ideological objections to online that the largest gambling casino has? >> i can't tell overt internet who is under age. i can't tell whose got financial difficulties. i can't tell who is not gaming responsibly. >> but if you come to my casino -- [ laughter ] you don't enter without answering a very detailed
financial solvency questionnaire. >> if you lost john stevens, you lu lost everything. he didn't make a distinction between the koches and the adelsons. >> and also speaking of "daily show" skits, let's continue with news about karl rove. karl rove is dullinging down that hillary clinton should be prepared for scrutiny about her health if she decides to run in 2016. the republican strategist pushed back who claimed he openly claimed the former first lady had brain damage. he said, of course, she doesn't have brain damage. still, it's pretty clear where he's trying to aim voters' attention. >> my point was, if hillary clinton were going to run for president, but she would not be
human if this didn't enter into consideration. this will be a topic in the 2016. they will be 69. she will be 77 if she serves two terms and this ends up being an issue. >> clinton's spokesperson blasted rove's remarks saying hillary clinton has recovered 100% from the blood clot from 2012. a republican and the white house getting involved as well. >> this was not clever. this wasn't an insinuation. this was karl rove running head first into a brick wall. nothing drives people away from a decent office than this kind of attack. they say why would i put my family through this. it weakens -- in both parties, it weakens the fabric of both. >> here's what i say about cognitive capacity, that dr. rove might have been the last person on election night to recognize and acknowledge that
the president won re-election in the state of ohio. we'll leave it at that. >> go back to the newt gingrich comment it weakens the fabric. that's tough talk coming from newt. we go fresh off the thrilla in manila. we'll let you be the one around the table to defend karl rove this moraning. he didn't say brain damage -- >> he said she was wearing a kind of glasses that were associated with severe brain trauma or something like that. >> which i find this fascinating because she wore coke bottle glasses in college. you have ever seen those pictures of hillary in the late '60s and early '70s? what's karl thinking? >> i think she couldn't wear her
sunglasses, she they gave her a pair of glasses. >> she was wearing the same style four years ago and her traumatic brain injury didn't get in the way of being the most successful secretary of state in history. >> let me try to explain karl. what karl -- >> let me try to explain karl. >> hey, i feel different. karl didn't just stumble into this line of questioning about hillary clinton's health, okay? he's one of the most prepared and deliberate speakers. and when he gave speeches at the white house, people were always doing -- you know, reading research. so this karl's nature, is that things are talked through. he plans these types of thing. >> so are you telling me that he thought through this before saying this? >> well, i think he thought
through and is probably, you know, maybe not in front of -- >> what's his strategy? >> well, i think injecting questions about her health crisis from a few years ago is something that karl thinks is fair game. and i think that the fact that we're having a three-day conversation about hillary's age and health, he is in this objective. >> it's not about hillary's age and health. it's about whether karl rove suffered brain damage. >> well, to some. but some of the people that may be thinking about 2016 have definitely given some thought to -- >> she is giving it all she has. >> that's all i've got. >> karl rove -- you know what -- >> can we go back to jon stewart, is there anything else? >> you gave us an ending. >> i mean -- >> listen, katrina was easy compared to this.
>> well, when you rebecome president, you release the results of your colonoscopy. >> you know what karl was trying to do. >> if she becomes president, there will be countless discussions, over the years she will release her -- >> this comes directly from the stupid part of it you're talking about. ronald reagan got inaugurated at 69. when he starts at 69 and leads at 77, i think about ronald reagan. that's not a bad thing. >> there anything that they can device to try and diminish hillary clinton, they're going to use brain damage, benghazi, boko haram now. that's what this is. >> that's all this is. >> jim peters -- go ahead. >> i was going to follow up on what nicole was saying, she's exactly right, this is not
accidental. hillary's health is something that democratic strategist have been whippering about for about a year now, when they talk about what can ruin her candidacy, it's always a question of her health. here's a case of the most public visible case really spilling out into the open. now, one thing i think this is not, and you've heard some of this chatter over the last couple of days, i don't think this is sexist. i think you would have had these questions come up about biden. >> it's ageist. >> nicholl, remember i told you, they released that ad, how many houses did john mccain have? well, he can't quite remember. >> that was an attack against his family wealth and his age. >> and his age, right. >> these questions were going to come out, anyway. i think the question is whether or not karl rove has temporarily taken it off the table by being
so crass about it. >> but the other thing that shouldn't get lost, it is interesting, look at how the clintons respond. their first response is pretty funny. she's 100%. but they escalated throughout the day to near hysteria through the end of the day, whoever gave the initial response should be given the job of rapid response and whoever gave the second or two should be the understudy. >> for people that don't sit around sets like this or don't talk to journalists, there have been questions off camera, speculation. i only say this because jerry was talking about republicans. it wasn't just republican a lot of reporters were worried about her health. of course, they had absolutely no evidence whatsoever. they were worried. >> they were worried with justification after that fall. >> with some justification, it took her a while to come back
but it was speculation. and karl rove didn't help himself and he didn't help the republican party by speculating like he did. >> when we get the results of all of these personal data, colonoscopies and everything else, i think we'll find out she's healthy as a horse. >> there you have it. >> marco is clarifying remarks? >> yeah, going back to the climate change remarks. senator rubio found himself the target of unwanted headlines after he recently entered the climate change debate talking at the national press club. the potential 2016 presidential contender tried to clarify remarks he made on sunday. here are the original remarks and what he had to say about them yesterday. >> i don't agree with the notion that some are putting out there including scientists that somehow that are actions that have is an impact on our climate. >> let me get this straight, you do not think that the human activity, the production of co2
is caution changes? >> i do not believe that human activity is causing changes the way the scientists are portraying. i do not propose the laws they pass will do anything about it. >> headlines notwithstanding, of course, the climate is changing because climate is always changing, that's a measurable you can see. there is climate change. i've never conceded that the climate is not changing. that's not the question before me as a policymaker. the question before me as a policymaker, is that if we ban all coal in the u.s., if we ban all carbon emission information the united states, will it change the dramatic changes in climate and the dramatic weather impacts that we're now reading about? and anyone that says that we will, it not being truthful. but for you to go out and say if you pass this bill that i am proposing this will somehow lead to us have less tornadoes and hurricanes, that's not an accurate statement. >> seems rational to me. >> listen, i may be out of step with my party on this.
i don't know where you have to live to think that the climate isn't changing dramatically. and miami is one of those places where they haven't seen dramatic change. it's not the same thing as acknowledging that climate change is real. >> i guess what's interesting about this, i'm not exactly sure who marco's audience is. he says he believes in climate change. i do believe, like he said, that we're not going to pass legislation they're going to stop tornados and hurricanes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. and the left is -- >> but that's a defensible position. >> that is a more defensible position. but i'm just saying all the republicans i've talked to. and i've been talking to a lot of them for a very long time over the past four or five years, they believe in climate change, they believe that humans are responsible for climate change. the only thing they don't believe that the federal government could combat and
impose massive cut jacks because it makes extremist and trillion they'res. >> without getting china and other parts of the world that are doing more. >> they're doing more, actually. >> right. >> so in a time in the world, everybody is saying, steve, we'll go to you, we're going to be in competition with china for the next 100 years and china is going to outcompete us. at that time, we're supposed to usually disarm and let the chinese continue to damage the atmosphere more than us? and we're supposed to be worried about what tom steyer and other people say? i don't believe that. and even if we do what we do in that direction, without putting millions of americans out of work. >> i agree. first, the same people, the middle people, do want to have
some kind of coordinated change to climate change. >> they're so effective? >> the reason, nicole, they are not effective, if you're a country on your way up, and you don't have all the resources and you say, wait a minute, you guys have polluted the air for 200 years, don't i get a chance to pollute the air for a while while i'm economically developed. china, they don't have any clean energy. they have coal. and imported oil and really expensive natural gas and that's it. and they don't have any nuclear yet. so it's going to be very hard for them to do what they have to do, but he have to do it. and it thirdly, joe, there are policies, nonetheless, there are policies out there that we could put in place that would destroy millions of jobs that would put us on a path for a more responsive behavior. for example, we've not increased
the gas tax since 1983. the highway trust fund is going broke. we could raise the gas tax, rebate that to americans so it didn't cost jobs and get more balanced. >> jeremy peters on the hill, you look at polls, and i don't think climate change is at the top when it comes to intensity. i would suspect because of that we're not going to see another pass or do anything on the climate for quite some time. democrat stride in 2009. even the president was reluctant to get involved but they dragged him into that battle at the last minute. any legislation on the hill that marco rubio would have to be concerned about voting on before the election and the rest of the candidates? >> there was a bill that fell apart this week in the senate, an energy bill that was actually quite modest, the fact that it fell apart in a filibuster just shows how difficult it is to get even the smallest things through on climate. >> what -- well, you have your moderate democrats that like the
landrieus and others who do not support this legislation? >> no, it fell over keystone. there was a land mass that landrieu and bagich wanted to approve. the white house has not decided what it's going to do. and if it ultimately decides it's not going after this, they are going to wait until after the legislation to do that because they don't want it to hurt senators like begich and landreau. >> i thought it was fascinating having the canadian ambassador here last week. he kept doing the talking points that i thought came from the
koch brothers, i asked him where he got it, he said, oh, the state department study. >> our state department? >> our state department. >> this is one of the most widely overpoliticized decisions. >> a lot of very rich liberals don't want barack obama to pass this legislation. and what do they have to worry about? because they got millions and millions of dollars. it's just the 50,000 people that aren't going to have jobs because of it. i hope that makes you feel better. go to your yacht, polish it -- you won't polish it, you'll have somebody else polish it. that would be a really good paying job that makes you feel bad about yourself. have them buff your fingernails, too. coming up on "morning joe," we're going to be talking to senators rob portman and john tester about some of the most pressing issues in washington including the keystone pipeline and the controversy surrounding
the v.a. that's atrocious. and former yankee great willie randolph is going to be on set. and larry kudlow and joy reid. and miles nadal. former secretary time geithner is standing by. first, though, not fun, bill karins. >> across the country, just a crazy weather pattern. record highs on the coast. it's been snowing a couple days in colorado. how about this yesterday, it was 52 in boston. that was it. in d.c., it was 92. 40-degree swing in the northeast alone. this morning, we are tracking showers and a few storms up there around the capital district, albany, schenectady and troy. and albany you've got showers, pittsburgh, a shower or two. later this afternoon, cooler today in d.c. and baltimore than yesterday. this is where we should be this
time of year in the 70s. chance of storms from pittsburgh to buffalo. and how about out west. the drought is bad enough. now we're getting one heat wave an another. areas that don't see a lot. san francisco, san diego, 90s to 100 today. how about this for l.a., 101 today. 100 tomorrow. we finally cool it off by the weekend but the fire danger is really high. and in the middle of the country, i mean, it's cold. it's a chilly, cold morning. a lot of extremes out there. if we're going to get any tornadoes 0 are severe weather, we'll watch out for you from nashville to louisville, back up to the ohio valley. more "morning joe" when we continue. we'll be right back. ♪ when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here
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former u.s. treasury secretary timothy geithner. i'm sure they pull put u.s. treasury secretary. it could have been canada, luxembourg. but, no, this guy was former u.s. treasury secretary. he's out with a new book "stress test: reflections on financial crisis." wait wait to read this. i'm glad you finally got more people in the treasury department. let's start there. you had a couple of dogs wandering the hallways the first year. it was actually hard. that was a challenge. >> you could hear the echoes of footsteps. >> you had. but that first year, it was so shocking to us that you were going through the financial crisis of our lifetime and you couldn't get staffed. you. >> we had great people, we really did. >> i know you had great people. it took you a while, though.
what was the challenge? don't say you had great people again. you didn't just win the nfl -- okay, the super bowl. talk about the tough start. >> well, the world was burning still. remember, in january '09, the country was falling off the cliff, complete was shrinking at the rate of 9%. we had already put trillions of dollars in the financial system, but things were still frozen or falling apart. >> right. >> we had to find a way how to right the ship, how to land a plane safely. yeah, we had challenges. >> off the top, steve ratnor. >> ratnorwas fabulous. >> obviously, this book has ignited talk about what happened. different points of view, left, right, all that stuff. looking back, i think the central concern people have is
did we do too much for the banks? did we give them too much money, too cheaply, not fire enough ceos, more pain from the share 408der, more pain from the executives who got bonuses. how do you feel about that? was there stuff that could have been done differently, i know you had legal constraints but wasn't there something that could can be done differently? >> i think the huge damage done by the crisis and all the bad people that caused the crisis, they say, really, seriously, you couldn't bring a tougher measure of justice more quickly for people. but that was a classic panic. we were risking the great depression. and the first challenge was to land the plane safely. once we landed the plane, we moved quickly to try to clean up the system and bring a much better response. it's true, you could look back and say, was it tough enough on
them? but the first obligation, the most important obligation was to protect the risk of massive unemployment, a great depression. we did that, it wasn't messy, but we did that effectively. better than any government has in the last 100 years in a financial crisis. >> you write about being handed talking points by a white house official -- >> it was actually my treasury colleague. >> i'm not trying script you but suggesting messages that you had a pretty visser ral negative reaction to. i certainly have been in the position that they may have been in of wanting a cabinet secretary to echo a message. seeing it from your perspective -- i know you worked with some of my former colleague in the bush administration. you can talk about how political your job got and how difficult that was? >> i think one of the most important tests of government in a crisis is the ability to put policy above politics. >> it's impossible, isn't it? >> no, it's not.
in fact, i think that was a great moment for the united states. if you look at that moment, you know, the transition between a republican and a democratic president, you know, the world at the edge of a great depression. you had two presidents with bipartisan support, mostly from democrats at that point. basically put politics aside. and do what's necessary to help pull the country back from the abyss. it was a pretty big moment. >> with the t.a.r.p. and all of that? >> with the first to break the back of the panel. then the stimulus to put money back in the hands directly of the american people. and then the range of the financial system. i got a pretty good test of government at a terrible time. and we passed that test much better than other governments who sat there, were paralyzed by their politics. or played politics with the crisis. a pretty good moment for the bank. >> you mentioned in january 2009, we were on the brink. that was a term we heard a lot.
the country's about to go over the cliff in the fall of 2008. what does that mean explicitly and specifically? i mean, what would have happened if we hadn't taken that step back? >> take a look at the great depression, there's no memory of it. you know, people didn't live through it. but in the great depression, unemployment went to 25%. and gdp fell by 25%. and it took a decade to try to get back to some measure of security for people. and that's because we allow it as a country, a financial panic torsion escalate and bring the system to collapse. and why does that happen, it's like the lights going out. it's like the power not functioning. if the company can't get oxygen, people can't borrow and businesses fire people on a brutal scale and people are trying to protect themselves. that produces a certain set of conditions, panic leads to crash. that's why it's so damaging. and then, of course, they have massive innocent victims in that
content. >> so how close were we? >> right at the edge. paulson wrote he thought we were three days away from the atms not working. people were talking about burying gold in their backyards. you could hear panic and fear in the voice of the leaders of the world and largest corporations at that time. >> mika does that. unrelated to the economy. jeremy peters is in washington, "the new york times" has got a question for the secretary, mr. secretary. >> mr. geithner, one of the prime takeaways of this book is just how complicated your relationship with larry summers is. he promoted you to various senior positions. he was your mentor. and as you know, the president was strongly considering him for chairman. federal reserve, twice, actually. do you think that president obama made a mistake by not picking him? >> no, i think that janet yellen
is going to be excellent. i watched her make judgments at a very complicated time. and i think she's going to be an excellent chairman. i have just huge respect for larry summers, i think month more talented person in the country. henry kissinger said about larry summers, you should give him a permanent office in the oval office to vent any idea. he's a great person to work for. he's a pretty challenging, demanding guy. i used to say, what matters is the ratio between the thrill and the torture. and with larry, the thrill was -- >> higher? >> -- much greater than the torture. >> a couple issues before we wrap it up, one, what you had to say about elizabeth warren's hearing. she said she were made for youtube hearings, sort of show trial, explain. >> well, that was sort of a
gentle way to put it. >> like they were witchhunt, talk about that? >> i've got a lot of respect for her. >> it doesn't sound like it. >> i do. she did a great job in standing up with the agency and protecting from a form of abuse. she was excellent. there's a lot of oversight process. >> what made them show trials? >> well, you know, people didn't like what we were doing. it was unpopular stuff. it was essential, necessary stuff, very effective stuff but it was deeply offensive to people. it looked like we were giving money to the arsonists. the core paradox of what it takes to break a financial panic to keep the lights on. and there are going to be collateral beneficiaries of that. and that's deeply offensive. she gave a lost voice to that concern and she was very eloquent in making that case. >> speaking of arsonists, a
handful of banks still control 50%. too big has gotten even big. >> you're right, you always worry about too big to fail. and this is something we should always worry about. it's like a federal war. you should be on it. >> the big bank's concern, still approaching 50%? >> well that's not the way to think about it. that risk for the country is say much lesser risk today because of reforms we put in place. i'll give you examples. we mate capital requirements -- the limits on risk much, much more conservative than they were before the crisis. >> why? >> we had much better tools to put banks on the line when they screw up. >> let's say -- they're not going to because they've strengthened. let's say citi has a crisis, we're bailing them out or do we let citi fail? >> we're in a much better
position to let them fail that doesn't do too much damage. >> was it a mistake not to save lehman brothers? >> it's not like financial security. we don't give presidents a set of tools to react. we don't do that because of other concerns. we don't want to leave the market with expectation. >> if you could do it all over again, would you? >> if we had the authority -- >> with the authority, would you save lehman brothers? >> you don't want to save everybody in a financial crisis. it's a mistake to do that. you have to make sure you do -- we didn't have this authority until after the panic. we want to make sure we can protect the rest from the failure of the rest. you want to make them fail -- to use a different metaphor, you want to draw a fire brig around
the couordinates. >> should they have been saved? >> in retrospect, with full knowledge at that time, what we should have done, we would have escalated much more quickly to prevent the panic from spreading. of course, now, we ultimately did that, but it took a lot more work because the fire was burning too hot at that point. >> all right, tim geithner, thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you, nice to see you guys. >> the book is "stress test: reflections on the financial crisis." you can read exempts on our website mojo/msnbc.com. >> first, americans are hitting the bottle harder than ever before, we'll explain why in your morning papers and "morning joe" sports next.
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all right. let's take a look at some of the morning papers. "the wall street journal" crews, are racing to save hundreds of miners after a deadly accident in turkey. at least 201 people are dead with more than 200 others still trapped deep underground. almost a mile under there.
the coal mine is located in the town. soma, about 150 miles from istanbul. nearly 800 people were in the mine when a fire triggered an explosion. the fire is under investigation. two children are recovering from serious injuries after a gust of wind swept away one of those bouncy houses. >> my son loves those. >> oh, my gosh. >> this is that bouncy house that parents like myself. >> and me. >> and you. have been putting in your yards for your young kids' birthday parties. three children were playing inside one of these bouncy houses when it was ripped from its stakes and sent it flying high in the air. a witness took this photo that we were showing. you one child escaped with only minor injuries. >> look at that. >> look how high those three little children are up inside that bouncy house. one escaped with no injuries.
another boy has some broken bones after falling 15 to 20 feet in a parking lot. while the third has a serious is head injuries after landinging on a car. this is horrifying. terrifying. >> horrific. >> they're usually staked down when you see them in the yard. but maybe that's not strong enough when the wind picks up. from the parade of papers the san francisco chronicle, google wrote the global web of dominance got more difficult. the right to be forgotten. meaning google can be forced to erase links to content about individual people on its search engines. that includes documents. >> the quote, other documents, very important for mike barnicle. if there's ever going to be a senior staffer for elizabeth warren, he will not pass through the background check. >> that's correct. >> because of the quote, other
documents. >> other documents that are in mike barnicle's computer main frame. >> your confirmation are going to be interesting. >> legal experts say this decision will only impact operations in europe and citizens of the e.u. and from the l.a. times, army sergeant kyle white is the latest recipient of the congressional medal of money for this heroism in afghanistan in 2007. white was honored for his actions for his ambush where he helped other soldiers and maintained radio contact all while injured. some were present at the ceremony. he's the seventh living recipient for a medal of honor for actions in iraq and afghanistan. sergeant white is going to be joining us in the studio on monday. >> can't wait to meet him. the telegraph, the united states has become the world's biggest consumer of wine, all right, passing france for the first time in history. >> that's something to be proud of, right. >> a new study said wine
drinking continues to climb at a record pace, meanwhile, the popularity of wine is fading in france. u.s. consumers bought 2.9 billion liters of wine. still, the average frenchman drinks six times more wine than the american. so per capita was trailing behind. we got to get to work on that. willie, nba playoff action. >> a wild one between the clippers and thunder. let's go to the fourth quarter. okc had been down about 13 points with four minutes left. kevin pierce. and durant on the break lays it in. a two-point game. clippers quick inbound to chris paul. he turns it over. no foul called. the ball ends up out of bounds. this one is reviewed. and in a controversial call, the thunder get the ball back. so 11 seconds to play. another controversial call.
russell westbrook of oklahoma city is fouled shooting a three. he hits all three foul shots. the thunder take a 105-104 lead. with six seconds on the clock, chris paul is stripped. he loses the ball again. the thunder come back for a 105-104 win. and a 3-2 series lead. clipsers head coach doc rivers was steaming after the game. >> that's our ball. we win the game, and we got robbed because of that ball. it's clear, everybody in the arena saw it everybody was shocked when they said oklahoma city. that was our ball. we got two more games to play. but that could be a series-defining call. and that's not right. >> wow, that's pretty strong. the series goes back to l.a. society clippers get a chance to even the series back there. the wizards blew out the pacers. they were on the brink of
elimination. 102-79. it's coming back to d.c. tonight, the nets fight for their lives in miami. miami can close that out, and the spurs can do the same against the blazers. >> what about the rangers, down 3-1. >> 3-1 in the series come all the way back against the mighty pens. a couple of good one in the stanley cup playoffs. blackhawks and wild in game six. and the rangers and penguins in a huge game seven. >> and he scores! patrick kane, one hand, and chicago is headed to the western conference final. >> carried back off the wing and worked on by mcdonough. swatted on the cross. score! and the rangers are going to the conference final. >> rangers come all the way back down, 3-1 in the series to win game seven. they'll face the winner of tonight's other game seven
between the canadiens and the bruins. the blackhawks will face the winner of the ducks/kings. that series is tonight. >> can the bruins do it, mike? >> yes, they can. >> well, those are two evenly matched teams. it's go to be a great game. there will be fights tonight. >> if you can get boston and new york in the conference finals. still ahead from "morning joe" from the men who brought you freakonomics. and at 7:00, magic strikes back. he's heard enough from donald sterling. his reaction. he says enough is enough. we'll be right back on "morning joe." [ brian ] in a race,
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she's faxed them from the south of france. "the wall street journal" -- >> did she bury her gold in the south of france or westchester county, what do you think? >> put it evenly. >> you never know when the people are going to rise up. i mean if marie antonette had buried her gold in two different places she might still be with us. >> "the wall street journal" editorial board writes this. harry reid has essentially shut down the senate as a place to debate and vote down policy. he's refused to vote on on all but nine amendments since july. mr. reid is worried some of those amendments might pass with support from democrats, thus embarrassing a white house that opposes them. not too long ago it was understood that any senator could get a floor vote if he wants it. the minority party, often democrats, used this right of amendment to sponsor votes that would sometimes put the majority on the spot.
it's called politics. rightly understood, this meant the senate debated national priorities and worked its bipartisan will. >> jeremy peters, i've been about cushion harry reid for a couple years, what's with this "wall street journal" editorial? >> i think often when you're talking outrage along these lines, it's often a little bit stronger when you are the person who is on the brunt of the perceived injustices. >> right. >> and in this case, i think that's what's happening with "the wall street journal." i doubt that they would be crying so loudly if this were republicans and not a democrat. >> but, jeremy, we heard a thousand stories about those terrible republicans that won't pass democratic leases of legislation through the house. the question is can republicans fairly make -- and i'm not leading you here, i'm curious, can we not fairly make the aim argument about harry reid not
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hungry people, but a clean people. >> but those hearings are long. >> you get hungry. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank you and member connors for your willingness to work to make progress on this issue, and in making sure that other surveillance cannot be used in a similar way. i'm pleased this be addressed in the amendment. >> take a look, willie, on the right, a lot of ear wax, this happens. >> check it out. >> oh, my god. >> wax smeared on the teeth. >> seconds, anyone? >> oh! >> oh. oh, oh -- ear wax. that's disgusting. >> who eats it? >> it's awful. >> enjoy your breakfast. >> oh! that's awful. >> republican or democrat, joe
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♪ jews, when they get successful, they will help their people. and some of the african-americans, maybe i'll get in trouble again, they don't want to help anybody. [ laughter ] >> maybe? maybe you'll get in trouble again? [ laughter ] jews help blacks -- eww -- unless what he's doing is workshoping new material for
donald sterling literally comedy jam. jeremy peters with us. and with us from washington, nbc news correspondent and host of "the daily rundown" chuck todd. winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. we're going to talk in two seconds about the sterling controversy. but, chuck todd, we had a lot of elections last night. a lot of races. a couple have stood out. what are your thoughts? >> well look, it's a generational change in nebraska. this is a couple of young guys taking over the nebraska republican party. pete ricketts tried to run for the senate a few years back now is a heavy favorite to be governor. and ben sass. i think what's unique about sass, a lot of groups are saying, hey, we want a race, we want a race. but the establishment is split in this race. >> now, sass went after mitch
mcconnell a way back. >> he did. this is about mcconnell. but paul join was for sass. i had sass on my show yesterday. he said he'd vote for mcconnell as leader. she'd try to put an end to that. i think he's going to be a little moron johnson than he's going to be ted cruz. a lot of people are trying to figure out where is this guy going to fit on the senate. i'd put him more on the johnson side. >> he's now a big favorite to win state wide, right? >> slightly. absolutely. and shelly is a heavy favorite in west virginia. be west virginia's first republican senator in over half a century. but she is, dare i call this person a pro-government republican. they do exist, and that's about what you have to be ideologically in place like west virginia which actually likes federal dollars coming into the
state because she's going to be somebody like a murkowski, collins, the republicans that do a lot of bipartisan deals. >> sound goods. let's go straight now, the latest from sterling, some quotes that i can't believe. >> the earthquake of the sterling interview, the ripple effect continues because we're one day after donald sterling attacked magic johnson. the former laker star is fighting back. magic was dragged into when v. stevian know post evidence this image on instagram. it's a photo made public by tmz sports. and sterling told her not to bring magic johnson or any other african-americans to clippers games to that original racist rant that was made public. it was days ago that sterling went after magic again, this time for having hiv. >> what has he done? can you tell me? big magic johnson, what has he
done? >> he's a business person. >> whose got aids. did they do any business? did he help anybody in south l.a. >> i think it's hiv, it didn't focus on aids. >> what kind of a guy that has sex with every girl and then he catches hiv. is that something that we want to respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of himself. what does he do for the black people? he doesn't do anything. >> here's a man who we would think would be educated. and a man who would -- is smart enough to build this type of wealth. he's reaching, he's trying to find on to something that's going to save his team. am i upset?
of course. but at the same time, i'm a god fearing man. i'm going to pray for him and hope that things work out for him. the problem is, he's living in the stone ages. he can't make those comments about african-americans and latinos. he just can't do it. >> gene, i don't know where to begin with the ignorant statements. let's leave hiv out of it and instead talk about the fact that for a very long time, magic johnson has focused on going into inner cities and creating economic development and bringing hope to the hopeless in a lot of african-american communities for some time. in fact, that's what i've associated him with over the past 10, 20 years. >> yeah, so many ignorant statements, so long time. it just shows how out of it and how divorced from reality donald sterling is. and i think sometimes invested certainly tens of millions of
dollars, i don't know if it's hundreds of millions of dollars into low-income communities across the country, created economic opportunity. he has walked the walk, in addition to talking the talk. and is the last person in the world that you would say such an ignorant and prejudice thing about. but there you go. that's donald sterling. that's the donald sterling we've come to know. and not exactly love. >> mike barnicle, how can this guy remain associated in the nba? i can't see any judge thinking that there's any way that he would have any standing, to have any part of any team? >> well, he can take them to court, certainly, but there's no way he's going to end up with the l.a. clippers at the end of this, with whatever litigation proceeds. i choose to go back to what is soon to be ex-wife reference last week when she said she
thought certainly that donald sterling was in the early stages of dementia. >> he's got to be. who would do that? >> it's possible, the racism goes back a bunch of years, guys. >> yeah. >> so it's not like this stuff wasn't buried down in there. maybe even his sensor is turned off. >> no doubt. there's no guard rail now, so he's going right off the cliff. >> it's insanity. and it's just -- i don't know -- i don't know how this guy, and we've asked this question before, thomas, how is this guy been allowed to be an owner since 1981, the nba had to know, had to know. well, they did know that he had racist tendencies. >> yeah, they had the largest judgment go against him for discrimination and a payout that he and his wife had to make based on discriminatory practices. so the nba does know what's
there. if they have something to leverage him out -- and he agreed, mike, as you point out, he knows what's in the laws of nba ownership. if they have majority of those owners saying he's got to go, he's got to go. that's something that he agreed to on the front end. and according to his work philosophy, if magic johnson made such a mistake and should fall into the background and never be heard from again, what's his problem? he's made such a horrendous mistake that he should drop off the face of the earth. >> obviously, he has nobody around him that can counsel him. and he's stumbling from one crisis to another. it's unbelievable. speaking of surprising, it's not quite along those lines. but karl rove is actually doubling down on the suggestion that hillary clinton should be prepared for serious scrutiny about her health should she decide to run for president in 2016. >> we've got the republican strategist that is pushing back
against the new york post head line. he questioned whether the former first lady may have brain damage. it's pretty clear where he's trying to aim the voters' attention. >> my point was, that hillary clinton wants to run for president, but she would not be human if this didn't enter into consideration. and my other point is this will be an issue in the 2016 race. whether she likes it or not. she'll be 69 by the 2016 election. and she'll be 79 if he ends up erving two terms. >> clinton's camp blasted back saying she's recovered 100% from a blot clot in 2012. it wasn't just clinton pushing back, a well-known republican and white house jumped into it as well. >> this wasn't clever, ant it wasn't insinuation. this was karl rove running into a brick wall. nothing drives decent people running away from public office
more than this type attack. it weakens the fabric of democracy. >> here's what i would say about cognitive capacity which is that dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge that the president had won re-election, including the state of ohio, so we'll leave it at that. >> chuck todd, what's going on? i mean, i just don't understand why would karl rove bend over backwards to make hillary clinton look like a more sympathetic figure? >> i am curious. it's amazing the conspiracy those are i heard yesterday. rove did this, he's doing the old lbj here. make them deny that they have brain damage. throw it out there and then say, oh, i didn't say brain damage, brain damage, brain damage, you know, but i'm trying to get it into the ether. and then i've talked to other folks who say that rove truly
was sort of shell-shocked that that got out there. that wasn't what he meant. >> well, he didn't exactly spin it very well yesterday. >> and he didn't spin is very well, no. look, the fact is she's the same age, she's going to be the same age as reagan was. if you're going to go down this road and claim she's going to have health issues, and things of that nature, then you may have to be throwing your own guy, ronald reagan under the bus a little bit. so i think this is a dangerous, tricky road to go down. and as we saw, with rove, you go down this road, and you stumble down this road, i mean, i agree, at any point, any presidential candidate has deputy release their health records. i don't care if they're 45 or 70. at the end of the day, i think it's important, the american public wants to know, they want to make their judgment about who the running mate is, things like that. so that is fair game. but to sit there and say it only really applies to her.
and you go down that road, it's going to look a little sexist if you're not careful. and it's going to backfire. >> you obviously have known hillary for a very long time. and you're absolutely confident. while you said legitimate -- there are a lot of people legitimately concerned after her fall that she's doing fine. >> look, i think she's doing fine. you watch her during her time as secretary of state, all the travlgs all the wear and tear and meetings she did. yeah, she had a little health problem, but probably would the rest of us after what she went through. regardless of what rove was doing, it's clear what what he was doing. if somebody like joe biden decides he wants to be in the mix two or three years older than hillary, it's going to apply to him. senator marco rubio found himself the target after recently entering into a climate change debate. speak at the national press
club, the potential 2016 contender looked to clarify remarks he made sunday. here are the original markings and what he said yesterday. >> i don't agree with the notion that some are putting out there including scientists that somehow there are actions we can take today that would actually have an impact on our climate. >> let me get this straight you do not think that human activity, production of co2 has causing change? >> i do not believe human activity is causing changes to our climate. i do not believe the laws that they will pass will do anything about it. >> headlines notwithstanding i of course, the climate is incorporate challenging because the climate is always changing, that's a measurable you can see. i've never disputed that climate is changing. i pointed out that climate is always changing. it's never static. that's not the question before me ace policymaker. the question before me as a policymaker, if we ban all coal,
all carbon emission information the united states will it change the dramatic weather impacts that we're now reading jab and anyone who says that we will is not being truthful. but for me to go out and say if you pass this bill that i'm proposing this will somehow lead us to have less tornadoes or hurricanes, that's just not an accurate statement. >> there we have him cleaning up his language but former president gore speaking about the calculus around climate change. he's said it's not complicated and why candidates are carving out their positions now. >> they will face primary opponents financed by the koch brothers and others who are part of their group, if they even breathe the slightest breath of sympathy for the truth. >> sympathy for the truth. jeremy peters, let's talk to you about the whiplash effect that we're seeing from senator marco rubio. obviously what he had to say to jonathan karl did not go over
well at the national press club and he's giving a different answer on climate change. >> i think this is what happens when you're thinking about running in a republican primary at the same time trying to become a viable national figure. you have to say one thing that on the one hand doesn't alienate the base. in this case, the republican base doesn't want to hear that global warming is man-made or a serious problem. but on the other hand, the majority of americans feel this is a real issue and that it needs to be dealt with at a federal level. so you've also seen this pattern from other contenders. possible contenders for the republican nomination. remember what happened with rand paul when he came out and said that republicans need to stop talking about voter fraud. and voter i.d. he got slammed on the right, even though what he said, this is offensive, republicans need to be careful about the way they're talking about this. it's offending african-americans. yesterday, he walked those statements back, saying, well, i
didn't say -- i didn't say that these laws are a bad idea. all i was saying is that we need to not talk about them as much. a lot of times these guys are trying to have it both ways. >> chuck, off of what jeremy just said, potential candidates trying to have it both ways, not offending the base. karl rove's comments about hillary clinton. the base, not only the republican, but specifically, the republican base, where does this potential field of candidates go in appeasing the base, while perhaps alienate oeg they have a demographic problem anyway in this country. can they shoot the middle here? is there a middle for them? >> i don't know, they have a -- we talk about a demographic problem. i go back to the term and color phrase of 2013, this is a period of time where it's not exactly where the democratic party was in a great place in virginia. and he used climate change, he
used some of these issues. but climate change was one of them, to define his opponent as out of the mainstream. you won't believe what he said about this in suburban -- in a suburban part of the state. this is -- there is a sort of a suburban wing that used to exist of the republican party that's sort of pro-business. the old eisenhower, rockefeller republicans. the children of them are starting to vote democrat. not because they're enthusiastist perhaps about the democratic party but they're just -- they've gone all brian sullivan to reference that. but they go, wait a minute, what's going on over here? and they feel as if you can't have rational discussions about certain policy issues. and so that's the voter that they've also turned off in suburban america. and 2016, the clintons are very good at wooing suburban america. and climate change that can turn
off potential with right-leaning republicans. >> gene robinson, a fascinating story in the front page of "the washington post," your newspaper. you read the article, he has conservative challenge from the right in his district. there was this weekend, where cantor was booed by republican act that visits. quite a turn of events for a guy who was seen as the conservative alternative to john boehner just a year ago. what's going on? >> well he's in trouble. and it's hard to figure why or how. because he's gone so far out of his way to try to define himself as the more tea party-friendly member of the leadership. of the leadership duo. and the one who will, unlike john boehner was really with the tea party. now, he faces this challenge that seems to be getting serious. i mean, i don't know that -- i don't know that you can call him
in grave peril at this point. you know, look, the majority leader in the house in a safe district, isn't supposed to be in trouble at all. at this point of the cycle. and i think it shows something that's happening in general about the republican party through these primaries. even though the so-called establishment candidates are winning a lot of races. they didn't win last night in nebraska, particularly. but they're winning a lot of races. but the tea party is bringing the staekt farther to the right in some cases. cantore will probably be brought yet further to the right. this, i think, could present problems for the republican party in the general election. >> we shall see. all right. thank you so much, chuck todd, thanks. we're going to be watching "the daily rundown" at 9:00 a.m. eastern.
you guys go after it, right? >> the irrational middle, that's what america needs. angry middle. >> the angry middle. they saw it yesterday. gene, stay with us if you can. former yankee second baseman willie randolph is here to explain why the yankee way it's the way it is. and senator jon tester is here later this hour. up next, his energy bill was derailed by the controversial keystone pipeline. we're going to get senator rob portman's thoughts on that and much more. you're watching "morning joe." be right back. 0
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unfortunately, many americans live on the outskirts of hope. some because of their poverty. and some because of their color.
and all too many because of both. our task is to help replace their despair with opportunity. and this administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in america. >> that's lyndon johnson 50 years ago, declaring a war on poverty. now with the republican senator from ohio, rob portman who has revealed his ideas for a conservative plan to take on poverty. thank you so much, rob, for being with us. >> you you bet. >> we thought it was an either/or. you have to be republican or you have to fight against poverty. what are your plans? paul ryan's been talking about a focus on poverty, too? what are we willing to do to help in this area? >> well, first, just the opposite you know, from
either/or. lyndon johnson just talked about opportunity, rather than despair. i mean, lieu technical economy today, joe, we're clearly at a point of despair, in the sense that poverty is up -- the rate of poverty is up. 47 million below the poverty line. we also have a weak economy coming out of a recession. the recovery is not adding hope and opportunity to the middle class, as well as people on the poverty line. so the question is, what do we do about it? i think there's two major things. one is, we need to grow an agenda. and you and i have talked about that, that includes transforming all of the economy, from the health care system to tax code regulations and so on. that's what jfk talked years before this. a rising tide lifts all votes. and second, even with a rising tide, people are going to fall through the cracks and end up on the shoals. we talked about prevention and
treatment and recovery. some of the models there, two decades ago, you and i worked on this issue of drug abuse from a republican perspective, but also a bipartisan perspective. i've done this with regard to prison re-entry with second chance. my point is there are ways to get at this with constructive conservatism because we know it would. >> if we're talking about this, i'm just pressing you a little bit here, if you came out and said i've got a plan to take on poverty and tax cuts, et cetera, et cetera, a lot of people are going to roll their eyes and say, well, that's the republican party we've been hearing about for 50 years. there has to be a spending component to it if you're going to get people's attention. are you and other republicans willing to invest in some of these programs to make a difference? >> yeah. i think we do. we invest in what works. i talked about yesterday, joe, of the fact that we should use federal funds to leverage local
and nonprofit private funds. this has happened with regard to the drug issue. the example i used was this legislation that was passed two decades ago that i offered that talks about how to get community coalition, started. it turns out there's like 5,000 coalitions that have been sparring for the act. it has to be funded at the local level. it involves the whole community coming together. the idea is it's not going to be solved from washington. also evidence-based approaches, i talked about the second chance and the fact that it requires that we use the best practices and the federal government has a big role to play there because some of the best research is done at the federal level. you can bring together best practices. you can go online and see the website it's called what works. >> gene robinson with "the washington post." >> senator portman, good to talk with you. >> thank you. >> does the republican party have any plans to address poor
people? to try to communicate with poor people on these issues and to try to sell a program that, frankly, does sound like what republicans have been say for a long time. and what a lot of team think has not worked. >> yeah, look, i don't think republicans have talked about this for a long time, john kennedy's admonition that a rising tide lifts boats. in a growing economy, some people will be left behind. i think we saw that in 1980, for instance. we saw that in the economy. and yet, ronald reagan actually talked about how do you deal with people who have drug addiction problems and therefore there are broken families and therefore there are problems. we need to get back to that. i specifically talked yesterday that you're not able to deal with some of the broken communities until you deal with drug addiction and the impacts, particularly, the impact that's
disproportionate on communities with the current war on drug which is i don't think is working. and secondly, the record number of people in prison and not dealing with them when they get out. 95% of them are going to get out. that's a conservative approach otherwise taxpayers are picking up the tab for two-thirds of those people getting back in the system. there are ways to deal with those things. >> i don't want to cut you off. we've got a lost people that want to get at you, rob. here's steve rattner. >> you had a couple references to kennedy's quote a rising tide lifts all boats. but it was a lot more than nap it was after his famous visit in 1960 when he in fact launched the war on poverty. launched what became head start. and your party was in the process of trying to cut all of those things. you of course voted against raising the minimum wage. i know you think costs jobs but
would raise 4 million or 5 million people out of poverty simply by getting them to $10.10 an hour. so what is wrong with those programs? >> steve, first of all, regarding the minimum wage, since you talked about that i strongly support programs that create jobs. i don't support raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour because it's going to create fewer jobs. the issue with regard to poverty isn't the minimum wage, with all due respect as much as it is about jobs. as you look at it, as you know fewer there been 0.3 of 1% of people are under minimum wage and under the poverty line. why? because most people under the poverty line need a job. it's not about the minimum wage, it's about a job. the problem about raising the minimum wage too fast and too high, you're going to eliminate jobs. the budget office has joined and said if you do what the president is proposing it will result in jobs being lost not gained. why not do things like making
the earned income tax credit work better. things that could affect work. i do support that in ohio. that would. i think states should be able to do that. i think we're getting off track on some of these political discussions. i know it's very popular, the minimum wage issue. again, ohio's got a higher minimum wage index. >> mike barnicle. >> senator, these are admiral goals but how do you attack poverty in this country when many members of your party have voted to cut food stamps. they've voted to repeal health care, you talk about a rising tide lifts all boats. how do you talk about a rising tide that lifts boats still filled with the hungry and rising ill-health? >> i do believe that the rising tide theory is important. in fact, i think it's necessary. you got to have a stronger economy. you've got to have growth. there are five or six things that we should do immediately to
get the economy moving again. dealing with health care costs. and the competitive global economy. we've got to do a much better job really reforming all of our institutions of our country as other countries have done when we have not. my point is that's not enough. it's not sufficient. the question is how do you come up with ways that are practical, i call it constructive, to actually look at what's worked. and deal with the issues. i don't believe it's going to happen from washington alone. by the way, lyndon johnson said that later in that same speech which is this is not going to happen in washington, it's going to happen in the field. it's going to happen in private homes in public lawsuits from the courthouse on up. he even acknowledged this is not something that's going to happen in washington. but washington has an important role to ply. that's what i tried to lay out in my speech yesterday. >> rob, thank you for being with us. senator rob portman. tomorrow morning on the show, glenn greenwald is going to join us on his new memoir on braying
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back from iraq and the injuries to the vets are pretty intense, especially the ones we can't see. i think the v.a. is doing a pretty good darn job. that being said, if one veteran dies because somebody screwed up on a wait-list, that's far too many. >> first of all, i've got to say, there are a lot of veterans that would take exception to you saying, quote, the v.a. is doing a pretty good job. if you think the v.a.'s doing a pretty good job. i think you may be one of people in washington, d.c. that think that v.a. is doing a good job, but maybe one of the few people in america who believe that. >> i couldn't disi agree with you more. i've been around the state of montana. i've talked to veterans for the last eight years. and i'm not a veteran. i've talked to veterans. and i can tell you almost truly without exception they truly appreciate the v.a. is it perfect? absolutely not. does it need to be improved? absolutely. we need to work on it, especially when it comes to
mental health issues. but overall, i will tell you that the v.a., and i'd know it's in vogue right now to politicize everything that's going on with the v.a. but the bottom line is, we need to get to the bottom of this, we need to find out if there's wrog doing and hold people responsible. >> it's not in vogue with all due respect, senator, there's been a waiting list that's been extraordinarily long. an you've got parts of the v.a. that are actually cooking the books. and possibly killing veterans. >> we need to get to the bottom of that. but i will tell you, the waiting list, we knew was coming. it was coming. and i can tell you that this secretary has reduced it by 45%. that being said, it's being increased by 45%, too. because we're having veterans come home from iraq and afghanistan as we wind these wars down. and i think it's good we're winding these wars down but we've got to be realistic. the fact is, the waiting list is too long. secretary shinseki has made it a priority. and he's worked hard at it. and he needs success.
in the meantime, what has congress done? well, we've had sequestration and shutdowns and anything but certainty to the v.a. so when we see politicians badmouthing the v.a., they're pointing a finger at the v.a. and three back at themselves. >> that's bad mouthing the v.a. paul reichoff is bad mouthing the v.a. he's not a politics. and there are are millions of other veterans for some reason don't share your rosy scenario of the v.a. >> let me tell you, the v.a. has plenty of room to improve. but they do plenty of things right, too. i think if we want to focus on the negative and we don't want to focus on ways to improve the v.a., then we'll be right where we are right now. asking for resignations when we don't have all the facts. we need to get all the facts and then we need to act appropriately. >> well senator, instead of
focusing on the negative, you come from a big state. let's talk about accessibility from ptsd treatment. you get in the car and drive for hours some veterans before they get properly treated. what can you do about that? what should the v.a. be doing about it now? >> well, what we need to do, we need to get both in the v.a. and the private sector more mental health care professionals throughout. this could be the biggest issue fatesing this country over the next 20 or 30 years. what the v.a. is doing about it, they're trying to hire as many folks as they can to serve areas both urban and rural. they're working on telehealth which is critically important. with success, by the way, even better than eye-to-eye work that they've done with the folks that have ptsd and tbi. look, it is a business issue. i don't know that we've got one psychologist east of montana. and there's a big area east of billings. there needs to be work done there, no doubt about it.
all hands on deck to get it fixed. >> senator jon tester, thank you for being with us. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i don't get it. i don't -- >> it's an outrage. >> well, you talk about -- >> i don't get that, i talk to veterans all the time. >> we have them on the show. >> i talk to veterans all the time that wonder why shinseki should still be there. they are killing vets in phoenix. they are cooking the books. i don't know if he -- if he's lobbying for another facility. in his state. i don't understand that. >> well, and you talked about -- >> i'm sorry, that is -- >> that's political in itself. >> that is one of most remarkable disconnects, political disconnects from a guy i've always respected. i don't get that. >> he's a good guy. he's heart's in the right place. but the reality is the v.a. is an incredible mess. at outrage more senators going
the house of representatives, the american flag, we have to take care of our veterans. >> and even came on saying shinseki who he has covered a long time and he doesn't get it, he doesn't get it, giant should be gone. i'm shocked that you've got a united states senator saying this is about politician? it's about vets. >> coming up next, yankee great willie randolph joins us. wow. ♪ [bell rings]
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now former second baseman, now coach for the yankees, willie randolph. we're just talking about what you're doing now. you managed the mets for how many seasons? >> three and a half years. >> you had a great run as a coach and player with the new york yankees. what's next? >> i hope i get the shot to manage. i got the opportunity and lived the dream. i grew up in brooklyn, new york.
i rooted for the mets as a youngster. i got a chance to manage the team. my life has been really charmed and really blessed. and then also captain of the yankees. living both worlds and just understanding the game has been good to me, i love the game but i'd like another shot and see if i can get better at it. >> you ought to get another shot. >> your career with the yankees spans almost 30 years. you put it all together and you saw some things. >> yes. >> you were there for reggie jackson, you were there in the 80s with don mattingly, you saw jeter come up from the minors and watch him grow under that great yankee run with joe torre. can you put into words what the experience was for you? >> it was a great experience for you, a 21-year-old kid to be a part of a world series championship. the yankee way means a winning tradition, a legacy that's rich in championships.
everyone can't win, it's not easy to win championships. i was fortunate to get traded by the pirates to the yankees and it just took off for me, again, storybook. the yankees for me are about family, tradition. the steinbrenners gave us an opportunity to win. i was fortunate to play with great players, hall of famers. >> how would you like to be joe girardi trying to handle jeter's farewell tour? >> how hard is it to know when it's time? >> the players don't know it's time. your hear feels i can do that. >> i went through that a little bit with mike piazza. he did a great job of saying you got to give me a day off, i'm okay with this.
derek is a different thing. it's got to be a tough thing for a father and son to go to the game and jeter has the day off. it's a tough, tough pill to swallow. >> when you talk about the hear, though, do you have a conflicted heart when it comes to new york and mets and yankees? i know the book is called "the yankee way" but you grew up a mets fan. do you have a conflicted heart over where your allegiance really lies? >> i'm conflicted but the best of both worlds. when you manage a team, it's like a father/son. as a player, you leave it on the field. i enjoyed playing more than managing. but when you think about me, i'm a yankee. you know, i got the world championship rings, i was captain of the team. >> the ring says it all.
distracting. >> we're all surprised you didn't say the mets way. >> and i was the honor of being one of eight yankee captains. that was special. i probably have some pin stripe blood in my veins but the love the mets. >> that ring, though, look at that bling. >> this was actually, 2000 world series. imagine living in this town? this was the most nerve racking. the true subway series. they're going on right now but had is the real subway series. >> there a lot of great stories, including the one where you went to yankee stadium as a fan and heckled derek jeter. you got to read the book. >> still ahead, magic johnson's reaction to donald sterling's
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♪ ♪ ♪ tell me you never saw this man move, doing the dance, the karl rove dance ♪ >> sickening, isn't it? >> welcome back to "morning joe." mike barnicle is with us, steve rattner, mark halpern and joy reid. thinking on the whole brain damage thing. >> we picked through that a couple of years ago. he didn't say brain damage but said was wearing glasses that suggested he had a traumatic brain injury when of course these are the same type of glasses that you wore in college. >> those milk bottle glasses. >> from the yale days. >> you remember that. >> i think this will go down in
history as a miscalibration by carl because of of the way he let it come out. i'm not 100% certain he wanted this in the blood stream. this was a private event. people can say, as nicole did yesterday, people had no know this was going to come up. he had to know this was going to come up. >> but the clean-up was not handled well either. >> what she said in private obviously is in private. obviously she didn't have brain damage. i just disagree with her on issue. >> the republican party is in crisis right now. doesn't look like jeb bush wants to run, people are worried about chris christie, there's another other establish candidate. the big gun, the big brains at the presidential level is what can we do to intimidate hillary clinton from running or try to make the conversation about her
about the past and negative. i think that's part of the package that carl's part of now but i don't think he planned this. >> well, joy, this sure isn't a way to intimidate her. if i had my opponent throwing a wild charge like that at me or let's say a member of my family i'd go, okay, well, so they're going to just hand me this election then, aren't they? it was a stupid thing to say and it was stupid to not back down from it. >> yeah, i mean, the source of it obviously he's now backing off saying he didn't really say that but it comes across, if true, as a schoolyard taunt, needlessly petty and small, a stupid insult. as somebody who grew up wearing glasses, it comes across like a schoolyard, foolish taunt. it doesn't in any way get to hillary clinton as secretary of state. like what you're supposed to go after if you're being serious about running against her is the actual content of the work she's done as a public figure, the content of what she did as
secretary of state. this petty stuff and speculating about her having brain damage, it isn't even serious politics. >> and talking about her being old, when karl rove says she'll be 69 if she wins, 77 when she gets out, you know what i think? think of ronald reagan, who was 69 when he was inaugurated, 77 when he was out. i would take eight more years of ronald reagan. i know a lot of people would. but republicans, who are listening to karl rove, i don't even think republicans get it. >> can't you just see hillary clinton saying to rand paul i'm not going to use the youth and inexperience of my opponent against him? >> exactly. >> you're reminding people she has a lot of experience in public life. people who know her and know politics understand she's a serious person. >> the republican party is in
existential crisis right now. their kind of republicans now are trying to disqualify her. it's the strategy president obama used to disqualify mitt romney. they're saying our only hope of winning now until we have a candidate that can match up with her until we have a candidate in the electoral college, is to disqualify her. that's where the energy is now. >> is karl rove more wary of hillary clinton or more leery of the existing republican field? >> he would like a horse to get on. until they have a horse, there's a one-word job description for the party right now, who can beat her?
they don't have anybody gung-ho who can beat her, to try to start enough noise who can beat or damage her. >> the tea party got a much-needed primary victory last night, some are saying. the nebraska former bush official, ben sasse captured more than half of the votes. he's scored endorsements from sarah palin and ted cruz and outside groups including club for growth. they spent millions on sasse. when he called out senator minority leader mitch mcconnell to show some, quote, actual leadership on obamacare but yesterday he down played that rift and told chuck todd he would absolutely support mitch mcconnell as leader. and pete rickets, businessman who won the primary in nebraska
had the backing of ted cruz, who campaigned out there for him. so ricketts has to be the favorite for that state. a lot of tea party got behind him and establishment got behind him as well. he was a unifying candidate, wasn't he? >> but he is an outsider. mcconnell is someone who will come to washington like senator johnson of wisconsin or mike lee from utah, he's not going to come and play nice. i don't think he'll be as far outside the mainstream of the party in terms of attitude as ted cruz. he'll be a senator and peter ricketts will be senator most
likely. >> and magic johnson was first dragged into this controversy after sterling confronted his then mistress over a photograph. stiviano posted the image of magic johnson on it instagram. sterling told her not to bring magic or any other african-american to clippers game during that original racist rant and then sterling went after magic johnson again, this time, believe it or not, for having hiv. >> what has he done? can you tell me, big magic johnson. what has he done? >> well, he's a business person, he -- >> he's got aids. did he do any business? did he help anybody in south l.a. >> i think he has hiv, he doesn't actually have full-blown aids. >> what kind of guy goes to every city, has sex with every girl and then he catches hiv. is that somebody we want to
respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of himself, he should go into the background. but what does he do for the black people? he doesn't do anything. >> here's a man who we would think would be educated and a man who would -- is smart enough to build this type of wealth and own a team, to have an incredible platform to change the world but he's doing it in a negative way. he's reaching. he's reaching. he's trying to find something he can grab on to to help him save his team and it's not going to happen. am i upset? of course. but at the same time i'm a god fearing man, i'm going to pray for him and hope that things work out for him. the problem is he's living in the stone ages. he can't make those comments about african-americans or latinos. he just can't do it. >> joy reid, why don't you tell us what donald sterling is thinking when he goes on tv and
says that? >> the only thing i can think of between that and what he said to v. stiviano on the phone, here's a man who has a desenep sense o inadequacy, just his girl friend being a picture in magic johnson -- >> what kind of fool would say that? he has to know, does he not? we all know what magic johnson has done in communities and cities over the past 20 years. the investment, the financial investments, the risk he has taken to help the disadvantaged, he's done so much. forget the ignorance about aids or hiv, the more ignorant statement has to do with the fact that magic has been doing exactly what he said blacks should do. it's insanity. >> he's a deeply ignorant man who obviously knows very little
about magic johnson other than the way he makes him feel. this is magic johnson -- in the 1980s the idea of hiv/aids terrified people. magic johnson probably more than any other single person has humanized the issue of hiv, has made people understand it in the real sense. it is considered heroic in the african-americ african-american community both for the way he has contributed to the community and -- >> why doesn't magic johnson age? magic looks like he did 25 years ago. >> he's magic. >> that's right. he's magic for a reason. >> you have lebron coming out and saying he will not play basketball next year if this creep is still running the clippers or has anything to do
with the clippers. >> i'm not that familiar with the nba board of governor rules and apparently if the majority of owners is against sterling returner so he will be done. the larger issue, joy alluded to it, do you remember the day the news broke that magic johnson and hiv? >> of course i do. >> at that stage of the hiv crisis, he provided -- >> it's impossible for people too young to remember but there was such a panic. i remember americans going to restaurants and feverishly wiping down their silverware when they got to restaurants because they were afraid they were going to get, posed to the hiv virus. magic put a loving face on the epidemic.
we all thought, oh, my god, in two, three years magic is going to be dead? >> that's right. >> no, that was a turning point in that battle that we owe an awful lot to magic for as you were saying, joy. >> arthur ashe and magic johnson are the two people who did more to end the panic for hiv/aids than anyone else. the federal government refused to use the word aids, people fighting for basic drug care. people thought he would die almost immediately. his survival in and of itself but also his really just incredibly dignified champion of just living with hiv, besides the fact that he was just an ignorant fool who should be out of the nba, that is stupid. >> magic of '91, that's the on thing people would be thinking
about now. now that's way down on the list. people don't even think about it. talking about living with hiv and making a big difference in american society, the guy did it. joy, thank you for being with us. do you know what your show is going snto be? >> we're going to be talking about this and we're going to be talking about the nigerian girls. this is a very personal issue to me and we're going to stay on that story until we see a resolution. >> that's great. can't wait to watch that. >> are you following my advice? >> my staff can hear this, by the way. >> i told her to stay at home, relax. >> i've done it a couple of times. >> pixar has swimming pools and volleyball courts. you got to be in the right mindset. do not come in here for your meeting. i'm talking to the staff. >> don't watch this, just this
part. >> it's not about you, it's about joy. >> coming up, our reaction to the interview of time geithner with larry kudlow. and calm down brian sullivan, boy, he's fired up. coming up next, speaking of freaks, the authors behind freakonomics are coming up. they want to teach you how to think like a freak. bill karins, what do you have for us? >> you can't say freak and lead into the weathercast, joe. >> we're into some freaky weather. it was only 66 degrees in san antonio, it was 92 in washington, d.c. and out west, an incredible heat wave on top of this historic drought. let's add in the santa ana winds and it's one of those days of
firefighters are going to be gearing up and be ready. it's a very dangerous day. winds could gust in the mountains up to 80 miles per hour. 80 miles per hour and 100 degrees. that's like having a hair dryer blower. record heat expect, 100 on thursday. they don't cool off in southern california until friday and especially the weekend. heavy rain and possibility of a few severe storms, maybe isolated tornado or two, it goes through pittsburgh, columbus, louisville, tupelo. if you have any problems at the airport, it will most likely be with the thunderstorms. how about los angeles, 101 today. early in the season for that. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ and you're younger than you
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need to do that they can't do. but what they can do is be relentlessly curious, and their brains are physiologically sharper. we're start to deteriorate at about 22 years old. we suggest people channel the inner child as best as they can. especially when you're trying to come up with good yquestions an creative solutions. >> give us an example how you can do that at work. >> think like a child? >> yes. >> kids don't know anything about the world and they have a lot of solutions. a lot of answers people come up with people think you're nuts but -- >> and also learn to say i don't
know. >> and as adults we tend to present a theory or possibility as a certain tear. >> put away your moral compass. >> we don't mean to say people shouldn't be moral. nobody wants to live in a world where people don't have a strong moral compass. but if you're trying to solve a problem and you walk in thinking you know what's the right thing to do and what's wrong, you will exclude a whole set of possibilities. put your moralali itit itit iti aside and you can come back to it later. >> also in the book -- >> i still think you can be an astronaut. >> i'd like to if we still had nasa. >> you're limiting yourself. >> he already looks like an astronaut. >> thank you very much.
>> could have been. >> you talk about don't be afraid to quit. a lot of people, once we get on a certain path, we don't want to trigger any type of failure in our lives because we get comfortable with being on a path. why do you try to get people to not think of that as a bad thing. >> quitting and failure are two different things. the worst failure is looking back at our life and doing the same thing and wondering why you do that. the people who quit are happier than the ones who don't. >> from freak to frank. you tell great stories. tell bus the hot dog eating contest and what lessons he teaches ees us. >> i love this story and this guy.
kobiachi, he wanted to solve the problem and he approached it totally differently. instead of doing what everybody else did, fasting, starving themselves, instead of thinking how can i eat more hot dogs, he thought how can i eat one faster? he broke the process down and the first time out doubled the world record. >> from like 25 to 50? >> it would be like usain bolt running the world record in like 4.5 seconds, somewhere between a taxi and a cheetah. >> we've heard about creative destruction, that does lie at the heart of it. like you said, you don't drive the car off the cliff. sometimes -- well, all of this is about getting out of your comfort zone and not doing what everybody expects you to do. >> absolutely. it's about thinking. it's about not just sleep walking through life but thinking about what you want to
do and taking control and doing it. >> so who is your favorite freak that you studied that put the big light bulb over your head? >> barry marshall was an australian medical young doctor who figured out what causes ulcers, okay? it doesn't sound like a big game he also figured out what causes stomach cancer. at the time ulcers were thought to be from stress and stomach issues. he went and found out it was about bacteria and solved stomach cancer by looking at a problem, asking questions, hey, what are those bacteria being here, was ostracized by the
medical community and finally was recognized and won the nobel peace prize. >> i know hough to eat a hot dog faster now. >> and you can go out for thai food to celebrate. >> let your freak flag fly high. >> you can read an excerpt on moj mojoe.com. coming up, your favorite internet stock is most likely collapsing. i told up not to invest in pets.com, you didn't listen to me. we're going to dig into it when we come back. ♪ ♪
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fell by 25% and it took a decade to get back to some measure of security for people. that's because we allowed as a country a financial panic to escalate and bring the system to collapse. and why does that happen? it's because the light's going out. it's like the power grid not functioning. if the economy can't get oxygen, just to mix some more metaphors, companies can borrow, then businesses fire people on a brutal scale and that produces those set of conditions. panic leads to crash. that's why those things are so damaging. and they have massive innocent victims in that context. >> how close were we? >> we were right at the edge. >> paulsen wrote he thought we were three days away from the atms not working. people were talking about burying gold in their back ya s yards. >> they cut out the part where
they explain that's exactly what mika is still doing, burying gold in her back yard, west chester, south of france, all over the place. >> that of course was tim geithner earlier. mike barnicle did not have a lot of nice things to say about elizabeth warren. >> i don't think he likes elizabeth warren. >> i don't know that he doesn't like her. but i think he clearly felt abused by her in the settle of setting her up for questioning, youtube moments rather than -- >> oh, i think he doesn't like her. >> okay. we're going to talk about that and much more. we're going to ask why too big to fail has got i don't know even bigger. brian sullivan is trying to recover from yesterday. larry kudlow, miles neddal, a cast of thousands will be with us when we return on "morning joe."
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can we just stop saying "the republican party." as someone who grew up in a conservative household, i don't recognize the republican party of even my youth. i don't like what i see. i don't like the far right, i don't like the extremism. they've pushed me away. as somebody who is pretty much not religious, right, pro same-sex marriage, pro legalization of marijuana for the most part, okay, what party is this? what party am i supposed to be in when i'm a fiscal conservative who believes that small government can often be better. there are times for larger government. so we keep saying "the republican party" and i love you guys and i love the show and i come on all the time but i don't know who the republican party is anymore. i don't know in the republican party knows -- it's not a party i can get on board with because
i don't like the small minded attitude, a lot of the right-wing stuff that comes out. >> well, come on down, come on down. >> give this guy a cup of decaf. >> a ticket to new hampshire. >> that was brian sullivan on our show yesterday. brian is back today. lexapro is doing a remarkable thing in his life for the past 24 hours, along with larry kudlow and miles nadal. brian sullivan, i hear not just republicans but a lot of conservative republicans that oppose obamacare, that oppose higher taxes, that oppose more regulations, that are larry kudlow and joe scarborough conservatives who say you know what, just keep the crazy at home, we want to actually win elections and change america for the better. so i don't know that you're -- i mean, i'm hearing this from the
most conservative, ideological people out there, which is just stop winning election. >> by the way, i want to thank everybody for the support. that was obviously unexpected and a little bit out of character. i appreciate everybody writing in. >> you didn't just win the academy award. >> it's like baseball. if the pirates bat .320 as a team but every team bats better and they keep losing, does l thr batting average really matter? the republicans have lost five out of six of the last popular elections? >> we've last five out of six elections. larry kudlow, people are doing some really, really stupid things. harry reid should be going to boxing matches in nevada in his
pajama and flip-flops. he should have been beaten. >> keep your eyes open. he's on the ropes. >> i think this is a year where the big tent philosophy is going to work pretty nicely. >> it worked last night in nebraska. tea party support. >> the republicans are going to have the upper hand on economic growth and obamacare. tease are very important issues. with all respect to brian, i am not in favor of legalizing pot, i never will be in favor, i don't think the republican party should be in favor of legalizing pot, but if a state wants to do it, let the state do, it don't get in the way. i would say the same thing regarding certain key social issues. if certain states want gay marriage, that's up to the state. >> but the national party, let's focus on getting america back to work, right? >> and you're going to see that,
is going to be the big theme. this is the worst economic recovery since world war ii, the job situation still remains very difficult and, frankly, obamacare is not only bad for the economy, it's going to be bad for health care and health care costs. my advice to the gop, big tent is number one and, two, keep your eye on the balls that really matter. >> steve rattner, every time on the house floor we started getting to social issues, the republican party would split, work, jobs, taxes, regulation, getting people back to work, we'd be united. this economy, a lot of unrest in the economy. unemployment numbers are going down. last quarter that we flatlined, maybe because of weather. but you have a great chart here talking about how we've got two americas. we've got the america on wall street that's setting records every day and we've got the america on main street that's been losing real wages since
1973. >> it's true. the stock market has been hitting new highs pretty much every day. it's up 32% last year, 3% this year. >> is there a bubble? >> is there a bubble? i'm sure people on this panel have an opinion about it. looking at the price-to-earnings ratio, how expensive is the stock market in this goes back to 1910 and uses a measure developed by robert shiller, an economist. and it's not as high as it was in 1929 and it's not as high as it was in 2000 and not quite as high as it was in 2007 but other than that, it is higher than it's been. does it mean the stock market can keep going up some more because of these irrational bits of exuberance? sure, it can. >> but your chart doesn't end
we're in a bubble now? >> it suggests stocks are on the expensive end but not in the bubble we've had before. >> explain what happened to internet stocks. >> look what's happened. twitter down 47%, groupon down 46%. some of that are questions that have questionable business models. i don't think many think groupon is the greatest business in the world, twitter when it went public, the valuation was crazy. the whole market is sort of rotating at the moment away from internet stocks. >> can i make one point? steve is right as far as this chart goes. this is a ten-year average of price-to-earnings multiples. now, bob shiller is a smart guy. i'm not here to put him down, this is not necessarily the best way to measure it. look at last year or this year
or a year ahead,or really around 15 times earnings and that's not bad. my advice, sometimes kudlow is right, sometimes kudlow is wrong, i wouldn't jump out of the market right now. >> housing and consumer spending. >> housing is stable temperature it -- stable. larry said trade at about 16 times earnings currently. and on that basis the s&p 500 could be 1950, 1975 next year. s&p earnings are supposed to be 117 this year, gross 6%. if you believe what lee cooperman says, which is stocks are the best house in a good neighborhood currently, they're fair live priced. they're not cheap in relation to what they've been historically
and they're not over live expensive. >> so why is main street still suffering and why is wall street doing so well? >> when you look at the unemployment rate that has declin declined, it's mostly because people have left the workforce. there's only about 150,000 job being created monthly. >> the answer is simple. why has main street suffered and wall street done so well? because wages have not increased, and what hasn't gone into wages has gone into corporate profits. workers are simply not sharing in this prosperity. >> the wage point is exactly right. it's exactly right. and i think that's because of the slow growth in the economy and i think that's because of poor economic policies. but i want to make a point, wall street versus main street. no, won't buy it. 50% of the households in this country own stocks. when you talk about main street, union people, cops, fire,
teachers are all in pension funds and the pension funds are doing very well because the stock market has done very well. in queens your cop is making $120,000 a year, your school teach ser making $120,000 a year, they're putting some money into pension funds and that money is being matched and then some. those pension funds have gone up a lot since the bottom in 2009. >> teachers make $120,000 a year? >> how much? >> did you say they make $120,000 a year? >> in this city? absolutely. look at the recent de blasio settlement, it's going to be more than that. >> how much is the market in unrest in ukraine and overseas? >> they don't seem worried at all. the bond yield has gone down. but to steven's point, the stock market continues to go up. perhaps we are the cleanest dirty shirt in a bag of laundry. do i want to push back a little on what steven said, incomes
have not gone up, that is well founded, well known, accurate. but let's not forget corporations have paid out this huge gain in money to health care over the last 20 years. any corporation will say we have given our employees a raise, it just hasn't been in their paycheck, it's been in benefits. if the president's health care plan works and does as advertised, if we can bend that down, corporations will then transfer some of those savings to workers' actual paychecks. >> that's a fair point. but the balance of the evidence is workers have not had much pay increase. to larry's point, sure. >> has some direct interest in the stock but the vast preponderance of the gains in this stock rally have gone to the famous 1%. >> i just don't think the evidence supports that. i'm not making this stuff up. half of the households in this
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chaplain for? talk to the counselors. >> thanks to everyone who responded. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> bye. good morning. it's tuesday, may 13. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. the white house told him to lie. that's the claim in timothy geithner's new memoir but now the former treasury secretary doesn't believe his own book. we're going to dissect the web of lies straight ahead. >> and he was the iconic voice of the america's top 40, but this morning. casey kasem isç nowhere to be found. the frantic search for the ailing radio star intensifies on this tuesday. where is casey? >> and no love in this elevator. beyonce's sister kicking and throw hay makers at rapper jay-z.
what caused her to flip out on the hip-hop mogul. i don't know, but i'd like to. mornings are better with friends. watch this. >> hi. this is brookland decker and you are watching "fox & friends." >> she went on from that voiceover to marry andy roddick and lived happily ever after. >> i wonder if theç connection from toba the audio guy who picks those is the video of beyonce's sister trying it deck her. deck him. >> we've got to find out what happens. there is an explosive story caught on tape shows you there's cameras absolutely everywhere. >> we're on camera right now. good morning. >> let's talk about timothy geithner's book, the latest former obama acolyte says i'm out, don't call me anymore because i'm writing a book.
>> he recalls that the white house wanted him to lie, mislead the public before he went on the that sound familiar? to discuss actually social security. so look at this. he's talking about dan pfeiffer's urging him to present the issue that it wasn't the reason for the deficit. he says, quote, i remember during one roosevelt room press session before i appeared on the sunday shows, i objected when dan pfeiffer wanted me to say social security didn't contribute to the deficit. it wasn't a main driver of our future deficits but it did contribute. pfeiffer says the law was a dog whistle to the left, a phrase i never heard before. he had to explain that phrase was code for the democratic base signaling that we intended to protect social security. >> oh man, this is big. a member of the administration admitting in their memoir that comes out today thatç the white house told them to go out and lie. as soon as this headline hit the fan, a close source to timothy geithner says timothy does not believe he
was encouraged to go out and mislead the public. really? so you're not supposed to believe the things that he wrote in his book. >> and quoted. >> look, he wrote the book. he remembered it so well, he threw in the stuff about the dog whip. >> anyone who has written the book understands there are many rounds of edits. you look at that a few times before it hits the press. >> weç watched timothy geithner through the most harrowing times in modern economic history trying to explain himself, his moves and some of the things he had nothing to do with and some of his exact policies. you have to wonder, he's one guy you could always look at and i think to myself someone has him scared to death, even when we were over the crisis, he gives that demeanor of someone who is scary. >> he's not a politician. >> right but he always looked like something terrible is about to happen. when it was said i need you
to show emotion, he was not comfortable. here is what he quoted in his book. she handed me the text and i skimmed the outrage i was expected to express. i'm not very convincing as an angry populist. i'm not doingç this i said. instead i sat uncomfortably next to the president while he expressed outrage. what was he talking about? expressing outrage that a lot of officers were getting bonuses in a time of crisis. >> he said america was furious about the overpaid bankers. stephanie cutter wanted us to show we were on the backside of the backlash but they had no legal authority to confiscate the bonuses paid during the boom. knowing the truth, yet pausing and saying i can't deliver this sort of upset. do you it, buddy. >> let us review what weç have learned today. tim geithner has written a book. what he has revealed is the white house told him to tell a lie when he went out
on the sunday morning chat shows. that sounds exactly what we learned about two and a half weeks ago that susan rice was told to go out there and spread that lie. the administration knew it wasn't a there and say it was a video even though we knew it was an act of terror. charles krauthammer, a doctor, says this administration has a problem. they lie too much. >> this white house has an arm's length relationship with the truth. you could argue that all administrations do. but here you get the idea that it's less than arm's length. it is actually a clearly manipulative relationship¿ with the truth that it is to be used or abused or inverted in order to, quote, send a message, to send a dog signal. everybody knows that social security is in deficit. the treasury makes it up. and, therefore, it contributes to the deficit. geithner knows that, and, therefore, he wasn't prepared to say an outright
lie, an obvious arithmetic lie. >> timothy geithner comes out and writes his book and now before the book is out 24 hours he is denying what's in it. we haven't gotten to theç point where glenn hubbard, a key romney economic advisor, told him he planned on raising taxes once he got into offices. he said of course i'm going to raise taxes. glenn hubbard came back and says i never said that. again, these are quotes. he didn't say i talked to him and then -- he gave us a paraphrase. he's quoting himself exactly. >> americans deserve the truth. and ultimately we were promised transparency from the president. this is 2008. >> i have a track record of transparency. i'll make our government open and transparent. we'll do it in a transparent way. i want transparency. i want accountability. so that the american people can be involved in their own government. let me say it as simply as i can.
transparency and the rule of law will be theç touchstones of this presidency. this is the most transparent administration in history. >> really? >> that's great to hear him say. unfortunately the facts don't seem to support that, mr. president. let's just take a look at a number of this administration's officials who have misled the public. we start with, of course, susan rice. she appeared on those sunday shows where she said that it was a video even though the administration knew that it was terrorism. hillary clinton as secretary of state referenced the video as the cause behind the benghazi attack. and we know that she spoke to the president at 10:00 that night. >> james clapper claimed there was noç program to collect information on american citizens; again something that we found out differently there. then the attorney general right here, we have this surveillance, the claim by the republicans. he said he knew nothing about it. the potential prosecution of the press. he didn't know. eric holder. >> then of course we have the president of the united states saying if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
then later said i probably shouldn't have said that. it's hard to know what's going on. instead of a dog whistle just say things. say i want to tell the democratic base we are not going to touch social security. you don't need a dog whistle. just say that is what we're going to do. experts say of all the entitlements social security is the easiest to fix. we don't fix anything. we don't take care of entitlements and we certainly don't take care of social security. >> perhaps theyç have a different definition of transparency. >> you look at all this stuff, i think to this administration the truth is not important. getting reelected was. however, going forward, if i was like bob schieffer or chris wallace and ran a sunday morning talk show, i think i would want to have a lie detector on everybody who sat on the show from this administration. >> you should be personally offended if someone lies to you? >> as americans, we expect the truth from our government; right? shocking. >> if someone told you they remember told to lie and denies they wrote in the
book, i don't know where to start with that. that's why i'm turning over to heatherç nauert. >> she tells the truth. >> good morning, guys. serious news out of west virginia. it happened overnight. we start with a fox news alert. right now rescue teams are searching for two trapped miners after an underground coal mine collapses in west virginia. it is not clear what caused that collapse but we know the last safety review in twitter of -- in 2013 of the boone county mines had reports concerning the miners safety and health. families are at the mine at this hour awaiting more information. another fox news alert. brand-new evidence of another scandal at yet another v.a. hospital. this time in durham, north carolina. two workers there were just placed on leave for improperly manipulatinh the scheduling data. that's what they're calling it right now. this comes amid troubling allegations that a v.a. hospital in phoenix where 40 veterans died while they
remember waiting for similar treatments. another incident was reported last week in wyoming. >> this is not a game. this is life and death. this is dead real. and this is what we make a commitment to the people that defend us every day. >> there have been a lot of calls to the veterans administration secretary eric shinseki to step down but the white house continuing to stand by him. >> caught on camera, aç massive explosion blows the front off a house in new hampshire. this blast coming moments after a police officer was shot and killed while he responded to a domestic disturbance call at that house yesterday. police believe that the suspected gunman, 47-year-old michael nolan, may have been killed in that blast. nolan lived in that duplex with his father who was 86 years old. it is not known if he was home at that time. one other person was taken to the hospital with injuries. a bizarre story out of california. the radio legend casey
kasem is missing say his children. a judge is ordering an investigation into his disappearance and now appointing the 82-year-old daughter as his temporaryö conservator. >> my dad was snapped out of the facility. >> this is a part of a long running court battle between his children and their step mother. they're fighting over access to their father who suffers from advanced parkinson's and can apparently no longer speak. it is believed he might be at an indian reservation in washington state. those are your headlines. you read the tabloids, that is a story you read about a lot, the family problems there. >> that was heather nauert. let me tell you what's coming up straight ahead withç us. a mom taking care of her disabled son being forced to unionize, but she's fighting back. up next, the supreme court
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about government employee union, joins us to weigh in on this. good morning to you. >> good morning. this is a troubling case because it is about two moms who were forced -- these are mothers not in unions but their children had disabilities and to take care of them and get federal money these mothers had to unionize. they said that is a load of crap and they sued the government. >> one of the moms i met, susie watts, she takes care of her daughter who is a quadriplegic. she's had over $5,000 automatically taken out of her medicaid payments by the unions. automatically taken out, and she's been told if she wants to get medicaid payments to help take care of her quadriplegic daughter, she has to pay the seiu, the old union that president obamaç was an organizer for. >> sure. why is this one of the biggest labor decisions in a long time? >> if the supreme court rules for the workers and tells the workers that they
don't have to pay a union to keep getting government payments, all of a sudden the unions are going to have to work to get people to join them. they're not going to be able to take the money out ought mat khreufplt >> one of the -- automatically. one of the things about this particular case where these home health care employees, essentially the mom, is an employee of the government, even though she child, is that it's not the union that dictates exactly how things happen. it's the disabled person. so that makes it different than the regular union situation. >> what they've done is they've come up with this fictional kind of company which pays the person, and it's a government company. and this is how they're able to unionize all these home health care workers. what the unions want to do, what the shadow bosses really want to do is they want to be able to unionize the 21 million health care workers that you're going
to have under obamacare, and that will be billions of dollars to the unions, a private organization. >> sure. the way you've depicted it, it sounds like it was a dumb rule to start with, but it isúhhnging in the balance by one vote and extraordinarily the one vote is a conservative who normally you would think would not be for this. >> it appears. we don't know what goes on inside the supreme court, but justice scalia appears to be torn on this one because the fact is that he believes strongly in states rights and he wants to give the states the rights to make these decisions as opposed to have a broad decision. in this case a conservative justice may be the union's best friend. >> let's see what they do over there on capitol hill at the u.s. supremeç court. mallory factor, always a pleasure to be with you. thank you, sir. thanks for coming up from charles top. 18 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, the devil tried making it to harvard but
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welcome back. time for quick headlines for you. the sudden death of a north carolina democratic candidate rocking the community there. keith crisco, a congressional candidate died after a fall inside his home. the 71-year-old had been locked up in a too close to call primary battle with former american idol star clay aiken. this is the biggest discovery since 1492. one exploreer he found christopher columbus's long lost ship the santa maria. the ship wrecked more than 500 years ago off the coast of haiti. brian was just talking about that. you're a prophet. >> meanwhile, leading a team to success on and off the football field is about more thanç x's and o's. >> you're down 20-0. you come back from that, now you're talking about something. >> 1:03 to go. >> you think football builds character. it does not.
>> he's going to throw it. he holds it. >> football reveals character. >> joining us is the man behind that oscar winning documentary "undefeated" author of the book called"against the grain: a coach's wisdom on character, faith, family and love," bill courtney. how have you taken what you've done on the footbpl field to a different school and how did it help you build your business? >> the 30,000 foot view is this. we can be inclusive and forward-thinking and open minded without abandoning the core principles that got us here in the first place, and those core principles that built that football team are the same principles that built my family and built my business. >> and you've had success all around. let's break it down as best we can and people get the book and find out more. what do you think of hard work? >> i think we have developed this entitlement mentality in a lot of different places and not just in the entitlement
among those disadvantaged among us, but there's an entitlement among the wealthy, an entitlement among the affluent. this entitlement that these kids learn strips them ofç the dignity they get from a hard day's labor. >> if you don't have money, it's somebody's fault. if you have a lot of money, i don't need to do that? >> i think they're equally disturbing because of the lesson it teaches our kids and because it takes away the dignity you get from looking in the mirror at the end of the day and saying i earned that. we've got to get back to teaching the importance of that dignity in our lives. >> take pride in what you do. search for civility. it's easy to have civility when you're up 20-0 or about to win a championship. when you'reç down, how does that confer? >> how we treat those we opposed says more about us than even our own opinions do. we have to search for a civil attitude so that we can find commonality and
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one. get some ice cream. behind that front on the cool side. >> maria on the streets. maria, we'll take threeç tiramasu to go. >> if i leave you any. >> from the scoops out on the streets of new york city to the scoop of the news. >> good morning. we're talking about the phers -- mers virus. hundreds of people in the united states could be at risk after a second case of the deadly mers virus is discovered here. a man in florida is being treated for the deadly illness. this case and one coming out of indiana are believed to be connected to saudi arabia. doctors say neither case is severe but they are warning an estimated 500 people who were on flights with two of those patients to be on the lookout for them.ç murderers, sex
offenders set free while waiting to be deported. the center for immigration studies looked at this and say the convicts were released last year and it slams the obama administration for freeing thousands of convicted criminals, some who were waiting the outcome of their cases. the immigration group says more than 36,000 convicted criminal aliens were turned loose in 2013. yesterday we told but this story and here's an update for you. good wins over evil on the campus of harvard university. a student group planned satanic mass was canceled followingç outrage from religious and educational leaders. members from the cultural studies club claimed they wanted to move the mass but couldn't find a new location. christian students say they're glad it was called off and still can't believe the college would allow this in the first place. listen. >> i'm just ashamed that in an environment that's otherwise committed to intellectual freedom but also to civility would be
allowing such a hateful event to happen. >> the group claims that the mass was a historic reenactment and that it was meant to be educational. okay. beyonce and jay z all smiles sitting court side tenets game last night -- at the nets game last night hours after video wasç released showing solange attacking jay z in an he elevator. you can see her as she punches and kicks jay z as a bodyguard tries to hold her back from him. at the end of the clip beyonce pulls her away. this went on for three and a half minutes. the celebrities haven't spoken out yet but the standard hotel where this happened blasted the person who released this video saying they're shocked and disappointed. it is a clear breach of our security system. there were a lot of fists flying in that elevator. somebody very upset about something. >> stuart, can you tell us what happened with thatç
video? >> no, i cannot. >> fine. thanks for coming by. >> let's talk about this. there is another nightmare at the i.r.s. a new report shows the aiming is i spent nearly $100 million on office furniture over the last five years. >> the i.r.s. is asking for even more of your money for its budget next year. stuart varney, what do you think about that and how is that possible they can be asking for more money by throwing it out on furniture. >> $100 million for office furniture since 2010 does sound a little obsessive. >> everybody's already got chairs. >> maybe taxpayers are a little hard on the furniture when they go to the eurps -- i.r.s. office but it is more thanç was spent on furniture during the entire eight years of the bush administration. this is another black eye for the i.r.s. this is an agency which gave $2.8 million in bonuses to people who have not paid their own taxes. this is the agency where
lois lerner is in contempt of congress. this is an agency that wants another $1 billion to police obamacare. this is the agency which brought in an extra $132 billion, the latest seven months of this year, $1.2 become is what they want extra. >> theç lack of funding has made it difficult to provide the service taxpayers deserve, a quote. >> government is not efficient. government does not work efficiently. bureaucrats create bureaucracies which work very inefficiently and spend money. they have a voracious appetite for money and spend it on things like $100 million for office furniture. >> jack lew said they need $100 million to crack down on conservatives. he didn't say that. i'm adding.
right now the federal government hats seen so much money come in, they've got more money than they know what to do with. actually they'll spend it. nobody is talking about that. >> in the lastç seven months the i.r.s. brought in an extra $132 billion compared to last year. the taxpayer clearly doing their part to get that deficit down. the i.r.s. spending it on stuff like $100 million worth of furniture. there is a link between the two. >> that is not responsible. certainly why in that harvard poll you saw young people saying they lost faith in government agencies. stuart varney we will be watching you at 11 a.m. probably more on this? >> i shall check on that. >> thanks for being with us. >> still ahead a texas gun dealer under fire for this sign, but he's got a messagehfor his critics and that's coming up next. >> our military considering the first chaplain who doesn't believe in religion or god. do we really need someone to represent atheists? judge napolitano surely is
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likes his voters undocumented. he then said it was a joke. he put the sign up supporting the texas gun policy that does not require firearm registration. elisabeth, over to you. >> an atheist group is demanding an atheist chaplain in the military. they claim as more atheists ep list they -- enlist they need somewhere to go for support. is the d.o.d. being politically correct? fox news judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano on that. this isn't the first time this has come down. i think it'qç 3.6% of those in the military identify themselves as being atheist. how will this play out? >> i'm not surprised that people are asking for this, but it is surprising that the mr. dodd: is -- that the
department of defense is considering this. they have more things to do than to figure out how to provide a chaplain for an atheist. a chaplain is provided for major and minor religions for people who believe in god and who need religious services because their heart and morality tells them so or the religion to which they belong requires it. atheism isç not a religion. it doesn't fit within any of the definitions for federal statutes or for circumstances under which the federal government has to provide this. this is political correctness gone crazy. >> this is about the 14th amendment then. how does that play in? >> the atheist group argued a clause in the amendment called the equal protection clause which says the government has to treat similar people in a similar way somehow forces the defense department to provide chaplains for atheists. the 14th amendment regulates states, not the federal government.
and the part of the constitution that talks about rights the federal government has to recognize has exceptions in there for the military. understanding, as the framers did, that when you join the military, youç give up certain rights. >> we've seen those reins loosened. is this a trend? >> we've seen the reins loosened. there are circumstances under which you can have beards. there are circumstances under which you can have long hair. there are circumstances under which you can have tattoos. but the concept of a chaplain for an atheist, if someone needs counsels, it's there. if someone needs a support group, it's there. i don't know what this chaplain would preach since atheists don't believe in god. >> is this an attempt to remove a chaplain of a religious group that is larger? >> i think it isç an attempt to make the military seem more soft and cushy. i think in ten years we'll be laughing at this.
>> right now it is just under 4% of those that identify as such. if that grows indeed, will they be forced in a way to have a chaplain? >> no. the congress would have to change the laws in order for the atheists in the military to force the military to provide them with chaplains. >> this meeting today is not going to put forth -- >> this meeting today is really an effort by the brass of the military, the civilian brass of the military, secretary hagel and his people, to keep the lid on complaints. i don't think theç complaints are loud and i don't think they're going to come long and i don't even think they're serious but i think he wants to nip them in the bud by talking to these people. it doesn't hurt to talk but it would be absurd to have the federal government spend money to have people preach about atheism. >> interesting perspective. coming up, meet the mayor, brian says.
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forget everything you heard about fatty foods. can butter, cheese and heavy meats actually be good for you? our next guest says yes and that's why she's here. >> that's right. she spent near low decades studying the positive effects of
fatty foods and details it in "the big fat surprise." she joins us now with such great news. so please explain, this is great. we have some comparisons here. why is that good for you? we keep hearing it's not. >> we've been living for 50 years with the low fat diet and the problem is that when you reduce fat, you increase carbohydrates. we eat 25% more than we did in the early 1970s. your body needs fat to be healthy. and the main thing we've been told is that saturated fats are bad for you, that saturated fats and meat and butter and cheese are bad for you. but that all goes back to one scientist in the 1950s who thought fats caused heart disease -- >> one scientist? >> it was one scientist. in the face of the nation's fear of heart disease, he came up with the idea that it was saturated fats that caused heart disease. he got that idea implanted into
the american heart association and the rest is history. >> let's fast forward to today. as people think about what they should eat, should they have the bagel or bacon and eggs? according to the conventional wisdom, you don't want all the cholesterol and fat in the eggs and bacon. >> right. so this idea became so ingrained that we just feel like it's common sense. how could that possibly be good for you? and the reality is that that contains saturated fat, yes. but the evidence against saturated fat has really dissipated, disappeared, and it is no longer -- >> so we choose the egg? >> you choose the egg. >> and the bacon? >> over the bagel? >> over the bagel, which is empty carbohydrates. >> brian will kick the bagel out. >> here you go. >> you can give it away. >> what about at lunchtime? if you had the choice between a green salad or egg salad, conventional wisdom says go with the green salad. >> but you should go with the egg salad even though it's high in cholesterol, the cholesterol in egg does not translate into cholesterol in your blood.
that has been known since the 1970s. >> so it's good for you without the bad effects that everybody thinks it has? >> it's good for you. eggs also contain a loft nutrients -- lot of nutrients. so eggs are really nutrient dense and really good food. >> a lot of people eat the egg white. >> all the nutrients are in the yoke. they're missing it. >> the questions are getting hard. carrots, pita versus heavy meats and cheese. >> this is the most counter enduretive. everyone would choose hummus. bread is high in carbs and carrots and pita. carbohydrates in your blood become glucose, which triggers insulin, which is the king of all hormones in storing fat. zero in that up with. will and also a lot of nutrients. >> right.
down here at this end we've got butter and steak and sausage spatties versus the low fat yogurt. you say steak wins by a mile. steak and butter. >> steak is really rich in nutrients. it has good fats, the same is true of butter. what happens with low fat products is when you take the fat out, you have to put something in to replace all the texture -- >> they put sugar in. >> they're putting carbohydratessed based, almost always sugars. a serving of this is like having a snicker's bar worth of sugar. >> wow. >> is there a limit to the amount of fats? i'm thinking what are the guideline when is having this type of fatty food? >> leave the butter. take the yogurt. >> is there a limit in a day? could you have all of this? >> you could have all of this in a day. the best, most rigorous scientific trials over the last decade show that a higher fat diet is healthier than a low fat diet in terms of your diabetes, heart disease, and obesity, hands down.
definitively that's been shown. >> should you be worried about cholesterol if you're not doing the low fat and suddenly you're eat ago lot of cholesterol? >> again, the cholesterol in food does not translate into cholesterol in your bloodstream. >> i like that. >> good news for everybody out there. >> so fatten up, america. we showed you how. >> we're getting a bunch of thank you tweets and e-mails. >> that's the good news. it's just that you don't have to feel guilty about eating those foods. >> thank you very much. real pleasure. >> thank you. >> coming up straight ahead. >> another day and another veteran affairs hospital called out for delaying health care to our nation's heros. where is the president on this one? didn't he promise to fix that problem? >> then just call this a royal hoax. >> who is this guy? >> we had a bunch of different dairies. >> one was an actor. one was an athlete and the other one was prince harry.
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athlete. and the obvious one was that he's prince harry. >> it's a new dating show and that guy looks like prince harry. but it's not him. these single ladies are in for a royal surprise. oh, boy. that's going to be great because tuesday mornings, always better with friends. >> this is darius runninger and you're watching "fox & friends." >> elisabeth, when you were playing football, darius rucker co-hosted the show. you remember that? >> i do remember. >> he wanted us to join the blowfish and go on the road with him and i said no, we're going to stay here. it was a good move for us to stick around. >> i think so. he also was a welcome voice on my first day. i love that. >> he welcomed you to the show. >> yes. >> listen, today as we welcome you to the 7:00 o'clock eastern time hour of the "fox & friends" program, we got troubling news to tell you. it sounds like the white house, every chance they get, if they
need to, they lie to us. that guy right there, former secretary of the treasurer, tim geithner. says in a new memoir that comes out today that he essentially was told by the white house to go out there on tv on the sunday chat shows -- sounds familiar -- and lie. here is a quote, it says i remember one prep session before i appeared on the sunday shows. i objected when dan pheiffer, communications director, wanted me to say social security didn't contribute to the deficit. it wasn't a main driver of our future deficits. but it did contribute. pheiffer said the line was a dog whistle to the left. phrase i had never heard before. he had to explain what the phrase was. it was code to the democratic base signaling that we intended to protect social security. so there you got dan pheiffer saying okay, tim, go out there and lie on tv. >> right. a source close to geithner actually said he doesn't believe that he was encouraged to go out and mislead the public, even though he's writing about it in this book on multiple occasions.
going to 2009 that he indicates that stephanie cutter, a democratic strategist and in charge of communications messaging, he tells a story there of how she handed me the text and i skimmed the outrage i was supposed to express. i'm not very convincing as an angry populous and i thought it would look ridiculous. i'm not doing this, i said, and i sat uncomfortably next to the president while he expressed the outrage. there he's referring to americans being furious over the fact that bailouts were -- >> that was the president doing the fake outrage. >> the president said how outraged he was when ce oh,s were getting bonuses after the bailout. everybody is -- it's unbelievable, he wrote the book and is walking back the quotes in the book that one time he
accused mitt romney of saying we're going to raise taxes if elected and he said i never said that. the book has been out a day and everything that's interesting in it, he denies is in it, even though he wrote it. how unbelievable is that? steven hayes weighed in. >> every administration from every political party engages in spin, but the entire point of spin to a certain extent is to avoid saying something that is outright false. but we've seen the administration say this, whether it's you can keep your plan, when the white house had studies show people wouldn't be able to keep your plan, whether it was the benghazi talking points saying the white house didn't have any substantive rule, or the obama administration political team didn't have any sub santel role. we know those things were not true and if geithner is right in the way he recall this is in his book, this would be add to do that list. >> absolutely. when tim geithner writes, i believe that he remembers it that way, the fact that a source close to geithner now is
spinning it and they're trying to parce the words, it reminds me of, well, that depends on what your definition of is is. i'm surprised that jay carney yesterday, came out and said we didn't tell him to lie. i'm surprised he didn't say dude, that's so six years ago. >> you remember everything because there is quotes around it. >> what difference does it make anyway? this is not the first book that's come out indicating there is a lack of transparency in this administration. bob gates' book indicated the same thing with i believe wording when it came to an opaque administration, their control over messaging. >> he said -- in all the administrations he worked in, prior to nixon, he says it's the most controlled centralized messaging that he's -- administration he's ever been a part of. >> the editor of the "new york times" says the same thing. so when we see the geithner information on top of the ben rhodes e-mail that they tried to get susan rice and she willingly
went along and lied on sunday chat shows, it's disappointing. meanwhile, are they lying about what's going on at the v.a.? there is more trouble at the v.a., disarray at the v.a. two employees in durham, north carolina, have been placed on administrative leave because apparently they, too, falsified records between the years of 2009 and 2012. they're now audited. >> phantom appointments that didn't exist, possibly for the same thing, to get incentives, to act as if they're efficient when they're not and the actual veterans are paying the price by not getting care. >> and trying to look good at the front office here, they're making them wait months and months, possibly leading to the deaths of many. anything over 14 days is required to be put in writing. we're seeing all these falsified records there. when you see jay carney, though, really indicating that the president still has such confidence in general shinseki, who is at the head of the ship
here, it makes everyone sort of raise a brow. >> the president remains confident that secretary shinseki is focused on this matter and he's confident in secretary shinseki's ability to lead the department and take appropriate action based on the findings. >> okay. so we're going to have to wait 'til the i.g. comes out. it's a mess right now. we know that. they had two sets of books and it was just to make them all look good. i was looking in the arizona republic newspaper this morning. there is an item that says that in phoenix, i want to say he's 87 years old. 87-year-old vet who is alive to this day, he was waiting for the v.a. to call him back for his hospital appointment, so he called 911. the only reason he's alive is because the locals came and picked him up. the republican congressman from the great state of illinois, he's in the national guard. he was an iraq war vet. he is horrified by the way that the v.a. is treating our american heros.
>> this is not a game. this is life and death. this is dead real and this is what we make a commitment to the people that defend us every day. look, not only do people need to be suspended, not only do they need to be fired, we need to talk about who needs to end up in jail over this. >> that's real outrage there. that should be coming from the white house, should be coming from jay carney when our veteran s who risk their lives come back, only to die in some secret waiting list. no faux rage from convincinger there. we hope to see real solutions moving forward. >> we need whistle blowers to come forward and talk about what's really going on or else everyone seems to be covering their butts and hope their name doesn't get called. meanwhile, heather nauert, tell us what else is happening. >> good morning. big news out of west virginia. a lot of folks want to hear about it. fox news alert, right now there are rescue teams searching for at least two trapped miners after an underground coal mine
collapses in boon county, west virginia. at this hour, families gathered at the gate of the mining complex as they await information on the miners who work at the brody mine. it's not clear what caused the collapse just yet. the last safety review which took place in 2013 discovered about 250 violations concerning miners' health and safety. this happening overnight about 10:30 p.m. eastern time. we'll keep you posted as we get new information in this morning. in the meantime, a rutgers university quarterback arrested and now facing up to 20 years in jail in connection to a brutal bar fight in minnesota. philip nelson has been charged with first degree assault for beaing a 20 yearly in critical condition. surveillance video shows kolstad hitting the quarterback in the back on certified. no word on -- saturday night. no word on what prommed that. his voice heard on the air for decades. >> thank you and hello again,
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citizenship shoney becoming a battle ground over religious freedom. >> the democratic mayor of new jersey pulling the plug on the federal naturalization function when the government told the city they couldn't allow an opening prayer at the event, even though it's been a town tradition since it was founded. >> that's right. the mayor joining us this morning. so this is actually a strong stand that you took here when you were asked six months ago. what happened? >> about six months ago, the federal government, immigration
naturalization services asked if we would host a swearing in ceremony and we were thrilled. this is a densely populated community, but a melting pot. we have a lot of new immigrants, always have. we thought it would be a nice opportunity to really host this swearing in and highlight the diversity in the town. >> sure. and things were going along great until? >> things were going fantastic. we had exchanged the agenda and the program. all of a sudden this past tuesday, we get a call and e-mail from immigration. they said you have to remove prayer and the moment of silence from the agenda. they said it cannot be part of any federal program. >> did you think we were joking? >> yeah, there was some communication back and forth. i said this doesn't make sense, especially in light of the recent supreme court ruling. we shot back, no, it's going to be part of it. they said it cannot be on the agenda and part of the program. i said take your ceremony somewhere else. >> and they did? >> and they did. carteret is a very diverse community. lots of brick and mortar
religions. we've always respected one another and respected everyone's faith. >> and in the town square, you got a christmas tree. >> we do. >> there is a public menorah. >> we do a menorah lighting in front of city hall and a christmas tree lighting at our main park. >> you open ceremonies with a prayer. >> we certainly do. from our veterans day services, memorial day services, any public event, even our council meetings open up with a moment of silent prayer. >> so this is important to you. it's important to carteret. why? >> it's certainly important to our community because it's faith based community. it's infringement upon our first amendment rights to have a prayer. >> did you have any interaction with the immigrants, new immigrants? >> we did not. i'm told from the feds there would have been a few from carteret. >> what was the general reaction? >> the reaction from the feds was that they would simply move the meeting if we wouldn't allow it to be hosted. the residents overwhelmingly support the idea of letting them go somewhere else. this is a god fearing community. >> so they moved it to the
federal building in newark, 20 miles or so away. wasn't int. it's clear what they missed. they didn't start with the prayer as you would have liked. why do you think they do this? >> we raised that and they took the position that even in light of the supreme court decision, that it doesn't apply to federal agencies. they said they don't want to offend anybody. i don't understand. if you didn't want to participate in the prayer, you can sit there quietly or stand quietly. >> i don't get that. the house of representatives opens with a chaplain reading a prayer. >> ironically, the oath that they take to become a citizen acknowledges god and they recite the pledge of allegiance. >> what about critics who say you lost out on an opportunity here? what do you say? >> that's find. we're happy to have them go somewhere else. >> thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> good for you. 18 minutes after the hour. up next on this show, a marine back from afghanistan for two weeks to escort his little sister to the prom. the school says no way.
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he's prince harry. >> well, obviously it's fox use they reality show "i want to marry harry". the prince is just a look alike. how do we know? he's here and he looks like him. joining us right now. >> matt hicks. not harry. good morning to you. >> thanks for having me. >> how long have people told you, you know, you kind of look like prince harry? >> mainly the last five or six years. >> all right. >> not very long. >> that's how you got the job on fox? >> they found you, right? >> yeah. i had some pictures on a look alike web site and i've done a few tiny jobs. >> here. turn this way because here, look at that. >> i never seen him with a beard. >> doesn't seem like you need a makeover. you went through training to learn the personal behavior and also other things. >> not so much personal behavior, but i had to learn his military career, scandals, ex girlfriends, his schooling, his
hobbies. when i was dating these girls, i had something to talk about. >> he's had an interesting life to look up. >> yeah. >> he managed to live like a normal person and royalty. >> right. and the information was pretty public so you had to get it right. >> i think i might have slipped a few times. >> so the girls didn't know. were they told okay. it's prince harry? >> they were brought over and they were told it was anglin bachelor. >> we have the meeting where your face was revealed, but they never said, ladies and gentlemen, here is prince harry. >> they just said this. >> we'll have to save that for another time. >> we'll find out more later. >> hopefully if you stick around for a while. >> so in the beginning, you were wearing the mask and then you revealed your face. you never came out and said, i'm prince harry. the producers never said i'm prince harry. the girls kind of put it
together, right? >> yeah. they were left to come to their own assumptions. >> you never own up to it? >> i never confirm who i am. >> sure. >> at the end of this, what does the girl get? >> you? >> there you go. >> fake harry, every week another girl is knocked out of the cast, right? >> yes. >> at the end, it's you and this -- >> and the final lady. >> and then is there -- aside from you, is there cash? >> i believe there was a prize at the end for the lady. >> normally a relationship built on a stack of lies would would not be off on the right foot. hi, i'm choosing you, now let me tell you who i really am. >> yeah. and let's go from there. >> start with an i'm sorry. >> got to be really sorry. >> is there somebody in there for you that you saw already? is there potential? >> there is potential. there were some cool girls on the show. >> i want to watch.
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front off a home in new hampshire. look at that right there. that blast happening moments after a police officer was shot and killed after he responded to a domestic disturbance call at that house which is part of a duplex yesterday. police believe that the suspected gunman was 47-year-old michael nolan and they believe he was killed in that blast. nolan lived at home with his 86-year-old father who was taken to the hospital to be checked out. one other person was hurt. we'll keep you posted on any new developments as we get them. a fight over fouls in miami sent one guy to jail and another to the hospital. if began when 55-year-old quentin putnam was asked by a neighbor not to feed the ducks roaming around their neighborhood. the neighbor, david lawn, claims it's not the first time he's made this request after minutes of arguing, putnam started throwing punches. >> he's on top of me and he's pounding me with the heel of his
hand. my back, my neck, my head. >> putnam is now facing a felony event and ordered to stay away 50 feet from the other guy. he put his own life on the line to save his fellow soldiers during an ambush in afghanistan in 2007. just a few hours from now, u.s. army sergeant kyle white will be given the nation's highest military honor, the medal of honor. the 27-year-old was on "fox & friends" on sunday. take a listen to this. >> you don't think about what you're doing, especially in that moment with that much fire coming in. your adrenaline is pumping. all you know is you have a fallen comrade out there who needs your help. >> six american heros died that day. a marine is back from afghanistan for two weeks to escort his little sister to prom. but the school ends up turning him away? >> i would not be going inside the prom. i was just going to be escorting
my little sister on the senior walk and they said i could not do that because i was also not a student at the school. >> oh, come on. robert addison says there are no hard feelings for the high school, which he attended as well. school officials blame the incident on an unfortunate miscommunication. such a shame. those are your headlines. let's head over to maria for a check of the weather. >> good to see you. i want to take a look at a cold front that's moving eastward today across the country and it is bringing areas of rain, from texas up into parts of indiana and also illinois. with this system, we are going to be seeing some areas of heavy rain and the potential for flash flooding across western parts of the gulf of mexico, with some areas potentially seeing more than six inches of rainfall in a very short amount of time over the next several days, so that is a concern for flash flooding. the risk for severe storms also in place, from mississippi into southern parts of the state of ohio. if you live in cincinnati, nashville, hem fix heads up.
-- memphis, heads up. temperature wise, it's below average in terms of high temperatures. look at denver. your high today, just 51. in the 50s in rapid city, minneapolis. ahead of the system, very warm. making it into the 90s this afternoon in parts of north carolina. now let's head over to elisabeth. >> he is the world's first and most recognizable super hero. ♪ ♪ >> just a bit later today, superman hall of heros will be honoring the everyday heros in the name of superman. joining us now david burke, paraolympic gold medalist and matthew reeve who will accept it on behalf of his father, christopher reeve. we are so honored to have you here today. this has to mean so much to each
and every one of you. ten inductees at 11:00 o'clock, exceptional, just backgrounds that you have, strength and diligence. i want to start with you accepting on behalf of your father. surely the ultimate superman. what would it mean to him? what does it mean to you to be accepting on behalf of your dad today? >> he'd be particularly given the caliber of the other inductees. he'd be greatly honored. it's astonishing that 35 years later after that his performance still resonates with people. more so for the courage and bravery he showed after his accident. >> absolutely. decades deep the loyalty goes for their ultimate superman there and super hero. i would like to see centuries as we move forward, congratulations >> thank you. >> when i think about your accomplishments, unbelievable. summer and winter olympics you
medalled there for paraolympics. when you reach this moment today to be honored in this way, it has to almost mean as much as the gold. >> it's up there. i've had a loft pinch me moments in life. when i got the invitation for the superman hall of heros, it's that moment you just -- is this my life? and i'm in such good company. we had a little cocktail dinner last night and i got to meet the other inductees and so honored and privileged to be part of this. >> oh, my gosh. they are overjoyed to have you. david, your work in the kitchen is incredible. the cheffery, everyone enjoy what is you do. but what you do outside of the kitchen is pretty great. you've been helping communities for a long time and kids who are hungry. what you did after hurricane sandy in terms of getting help out there was wildly noted i think among the communities there. what does it mean to you? >> first of all, it's a great honor to be inducted into this
and especially the inaugural one. we got to meet each other last night, very inspirational. it's great to be recognized for doing something that helps other people. i'm fortunate, i cook and i have food and i have access to food and trucks and things like that. so to be able to help out in hurricane sandy, which is where i grew up, was a natural. i think helping i get a lot -- a joy out of being able to help as i do feeding someone in a fine dining restaurant. i think helping people that can't necessarily get food on their own table is a real pleasure for me. >> it certainly did help a lot of people. i love the idea that this is about inspiring others through what you do in your community and really working to help others. i know your foundation has worked to help those overcome adversity. you have overcome adversity. you've helped during times of adversity and people can nominate, correct, through father's day.
is that right? >> right. it's an on line gift giving portal where people can nominate someone who they admire for bravery, generosity, what have you, and say thank you to their own personal heros. they create a submission and it's a way to say thank you and appreciation. >> sure. thank you to all of you and the inductees today later on at 11:00 a.m., we'll get to see the real heros. don't forget to nominate yours. and our hearts are with your family always. love what you've done. >> thank you. coming up, same drug, same company. now a dying boy being denied the drug that could save his life. peter johnson, jr. here with the details on that latest fight. lurks no love in this elevator. what caused beyonce's sister to flip out on hip-hop mogul jay-z. no hero award there.
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while lashing out at the other driver. and the video everyone is talking about. beyonce's sister punching and kicking brother-in-law jay-z in an elevator as a body guard holds her back. the celebrities have not responded. the standard hotel in new york city blasted whoever leaked that video, saying, quote, shocked and disappointed that there was a clear breach of our security system. timoney geithner denied that quote. steve? >> all right. same drug, same company, now a different dying boy being denied the compassionate use that could save his life. fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr. has this story. >> i think all americans need to hear this this morning. 21 month old boy with leukemia at john hopkins center is the latest child begging for a life saving drug from the same company which refused to provide it in the past. you may remember the drug company from the case of josh hearty covered here on fox which repeatedly refused to provide
that dying boy with a drug and that's been shown to treat the virus which can be deadly. the company received $70 million in federal money to develop the drug. they finally relented and gave josh the drug under a new pilot program. josh is out of the hospital today and his mother says he's growing stronger every day. the company's stock rose after the controversy, and said a compassionate use company to help people who can benefit from the drug was too expensive. now they initially refused to provide again compassionate use or a spot in the national trial to baby judson of lockwood, new york, who is suffering from the virus and is currently on a ventilator at johns hopkins. tammy shepherd's grandmother spoke to me from the icu last night and told me the baby has been battling leukemia since he was six months old. he said he's touch and go.
this drug is his only hope and said a team of doctors and nurses were rushing to his bedside as we spoke. judson's family originally told he could not receive treatment at johns hopkins because it was not part of the trial. now after our calls to the company, they may be changing their mind. about an hour ago, i just received this statement from the company. there are currently ten clinical sites partnering in the trial across the u.s. all of which have agreed to accept pediatric and adult patients transferred to these locations. from our ongoing communications with this young patient's physicians and administrators at johns hopkins over the last several days, we believe he may be eligible to participate in the trial. we submitted an additional list of questions last night which the company has so far refused to answer. >> that's quite a story. so for folks watching, we had this other case, josh hardy, a while back and you helped him
get the drugs that saved his life through that company. >> same company and same drug. >> and the same circumstances. compassionate use. so now suddenly after you called, they go, oh, maybe we could -- it seems to me that there ought to be a better system other than the threat of dragging a company on to television to these people the drugs they need. >> i think that's why we're talk being it. this is an inherently unfair process. one at the drug company level. two at the f.d.a. people should not be having to call me at 8:00 o'clock at night to say, my grandson is dying and this drug company will not act. and they've done this same routine in the very, very past. there is an inherent instability, a confusion, a lack of reliability in terms of getting the drugs that we need. this one particular company, they decided, we don't want to spend money on a compassionate use program. and after days of discussion
here on fox and on social media, they said oh, we're going to set up a pilot program. but they would not let this boy and they still have not let this boy, judson, from lockwood, new york, 21 months old, dying of leukemia and this virus into this program. they say we may let him into this program after we called last night. people should not have to be put to those kind of steps to call up legal correspondents on television to get their children the medications that are available and should be available under compassionate use. >> it's crazy that they would -- this boy is adorable. >> he is. >> it's crazy that the company would say, we don't have the money for those programs. they have $70 million worth of federal dollars, right? >> they got $70 million. do they have a corporate obligation? no. do they have a moral obligation as an american company? yes. if you're interested in this issue, you can go to www.foxandfriends.com, the family asked we put up a petition asking the company to
provide the life saving drug for this little boy, judson. this is an incredible story. we're going to talk more about the f.d.a. and companies like this and how and why you should get the drugs that you and your family need. >> i'm glad you brought this to our attention. peter johnson, jr., america's lawyer. >> thank you. straight ahead, are you a recent college graduate or about to get your degree? good news, more than half the employers want to hire you. cheryl casone with the companies you need to apply to. she's already got a job, by the way. but first on this date in 1607, jamestown, virginia verge was settled as colony of england. in 1999, rickey martin had this song that we were all living to. "la vida loca." ♪ ♪ good job! still runnng in the morning? yeah.
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anyway. hey, class of 2014, we have good news for you. a career builder study found that 57% of employers plan to hire new college graduates this year. up 53% from last year. here with the details on those companies, cheryl casone. before you take your graduation robe off, let's pick up the phone and make a call to enterprise? >> i mentioned this company. they own enterprise and alamo and own national. they have a really good managementogram. you're probably thinking, i have a business degree. why do i want to work at enterprise? >> because this is a company that will train you, give you great skills, promote from within. you get paid while you learn management skills. it's actually a really good company. they're looking for interns, 1500. but 8500 college grads. that first trip out of college, a company like enterprise is a smart move. >> especially if their training programs are respected by other
companies. >> price water house? >> one of the big four. accounting. accounting companies are great for recent grads, especially if you have a tax degree, accounting degree, a degree in business or finance. really good company. pricewaterhouse. 4900 full-time jobs, 4100 interns for 2014. >> two of my friends had that job out of college, have never let go of it. it's a great company. at & t, i believe it's phone company. >> yes. you probably heard. second largest provider. telephone, mobile phones in the country. 1200 student grads they're looking to hire. technical jobs, business sales jobs, retail managers. if you have a technology degree, engineering degree, a business degree, computer science, data science, engineering, any of that, great stuff. we're talking about working for the company, development, things like that. >> if you graduate without a good gpa and they ask you, just change the subject. >> golden corral. >> 500 restaurants, 41 states.
they need managers. i have know what you're thinking. but if you have a hospitality degree, this is a great move for you. again, management experience. you can make 44 grand right out of the gate if you're right out of college. you got those student loans. you got to pay them off. don't live in the basement. they need managers. 500 jobs. >> get more grilled chicken and hurry up. accentuer. >> this is management consulting, technology. you're thinking, consultant, what can i consult when i'm right out of college? actually they like to train, promote from within. they need people to have technology degrees. they're looking for about 1,000 people now. this is all entry level, but it's a great company, especially if you have digital experience, text, things like that on your resume as well. these are all good companies today. >> even if i don't get out quick, you'll have morning anchor, there is an opening if i don't get out right away. thanks so much. i appreciate it. coming up, the white house
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good morning. it's tuesday, may 13. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. breaking at this hour, a mine collapse in west virginia turning deadly. we have the developing details on that straight ahead. then the white house told him to go out and lie on tv. that's a claim in timothy geithner's new memoir. now the former treasury secretary says he doesn't even believe his own book. great. laura ingraham is going to help us dissect the web of lies. >> that could hurt sales. he's got one of the most famous voices in america. >> thank you and hello again, everybody. welcome to america's top ten. >> this morning casey kasem is nowhere to be found. the latest in the search for the ailing radio star.
according to most reports, tuesdays and every day are better with friends. >> this is tommy lasorda. you are watching "fox & friends." >> wow. what a show. >> thanks, tommy. long time friend of the program. doing a little voiceover work for us. >> right. he gets paid well for that. handsomely. he insists on it. >> it's the dirty little secret. every time we have someone famous, we say before you go, would you mind saying it? and we have a million of those. >> you both are recognizing them off the bat than i am. >> the part where he said, i'm tommy lasorda -- >> that should have clued me right in. >> right. you will have to jerome bettis. >> no, i'm not. >> i just saw him in the green room and governor pence. laura ingraham in just a second. >> but not quiet.
you know what's crazy about jerome -- >> the last time we met, 'cause my husband gets to spend some time with him at work. we met at the super bowl with the steelers. >> oh, yeah. he was actually playing? >> yeah. at the time, i was a serious seahawk fan, so it didn't go well. >> because your brother-in-law was on the other team. >> two minutes after the top of the hour. heather nauert has breaking news. >> yeah. we've been following this story through the night and into the morning. we have an update. moments ago, i got off the phone with the state police and they have confirmed to fox news that two coal miners died after an underground mine collapse in boon county, west virginia. that's in western part of the state. this collapse happening about 10:30 p.m. last night. it's not clear what caused that collapse. the latest safety review in 2013 discovered 250 violations concerning miners' safety and
health. we can confirm two dead. we'll bring you the latest as we get it. his iconic voice heard on the air for decades and decades. >> thank you and hello again, everybody. welcome to america's top ten. >> but this morning, casey kasem's children say he's now missing. a judge now ordering an investigation into the radio legend's disappearance. he also appointed kasem's daughter as his temporary conservator. >> my dad was snatched out of the facility he was staying at. >> jean is their stepmother and this is the part of a long-running battle between his children and their stepmom. they're fighting over access to their father who suffers from advanced parkinson's disease and we're told can no longer speak. it's believed he might be at an indian reservation in washington state. we'll keep watching that story. hundreds of people could now be at risk after a second case of the deadly mers virus is discovered in the united states. a man visiting florida is now
being treated for the respiratory illness. this case and the first one which was identified recently in indiana are connected to saudi arabia. that's where the virus originated. doctors say neither case is considered severe, but they're warning an estimated 500 people who are on flights with these two patients to get checked out. and then there is an atheist group that's demanding an atheist chaplain in the military. the military association of atheists claims more atheists are enlisting in the military, so they need somewhere to go for support. now the department of defense is considering a change. is this political correctness gone too far? judge andrew napolitano weighed in earlier today. >> atheism is not a religion. it doesn't sit within any of the definitions of federal statutes of circumstances under which the federal government has to provide this. this is political correctness gone crazy. >> the military association of atheists, there is such a
group -- is meeting with the defense department to talk about appointing a president for that position. and those are your headlines. one story we're following is that west virginia mine collapse, we'll keep you posted as we learn more. >> thanks for doing the work on the phone. meanwhile, your e-mail and tweets have been pouring in. this is what you have to say about that atheist chaplain. timothy writes chaplains in the military are officers and required to possess a theology. what degree would an atheist chaplain be required to have? >> bill says any member of the military can meet with any chaplain at pretty much any time. the judge is right. this is more time wasting insanity. >> go back to your seat and don't say a hail mary. and wr jones tweet, what's next? a car dealer who sells bus tickets? thanks for all of your responses. we appreciate it.
laura ingraham joins us. you will not have to weigh in on the atheist story. >> unless you will to. >> guys, look, it doesn't surprise me at all. christians, faithful christians found themselves in the crosshairs in our military, in our culture. we saw what transpired last night at harvard. at the last minute, of course, power to the faithful, the thing was moved. the heretical was moved off campus. that's the last group that you can attack, demean, denigrate, discriminate against with impunity. i think christians and people of faith are starting to stand up and say no, you won't. we have rights, too. i'm glad about that. friends of mine were at the protest last night at harvard. they were sending me photos of the mass that took place in protest to venerate the host and communion. it was 2,000 people. so i think it has a boomerang effect. the faithful come out and say,
no, we will stand up for our religious rights. i think people across the country, whether you're jewish or christian or even muslim, you want to stand up for your religious rights, do so. we still have a country that's supposed to respect religious freedom and we need to all remember that and stand up for our rights. >> amen to that. >> so listen, laura ingraham, when you write your biography, make sure when you do your book tour you deny most of the quotes in it. that's the kind of stuff that treasury secretary is off to. listen to what he's quoted as saying in his own book. it is authorize the biography. he says, i remember during one prep session before i appeared on the sunday shows, i objected when dan pheiffer wanted me to say social security did not contribute to the deficit, it wasn't a main driver of our future deficit, but it did contribute. pheiffer said the line was a dog whistle to the left, a phrase i had never heard before. he had to explain to me what it hadn't, signaling that we intended to protect social security. >> a couple of things there, guys. number one, we now know that the
left considers its base a bunch of unruly canines, dog whistle blower. they look down at their base, number one. in these biographies, do you recognize a trend here? the author, or the subject of the biography always comes off in the best possible light. tim geithner, well, i objected to this and i thought this was bad. well, if this was actually going on in the white house, i don't deny it was, i think it probably was given what else they said about obamacare and the recovery and so forth. but didn't tim geithner as a public servant have a duty to actually resign at that point or go to the american people and say, you know something? i'm being asked to say things that are actually untrue and i'm not going to do it because i actually believe in ultimate truths and the truth is social security is a driver of our debt and we're in real trouble when it comes to funding social security. but instead what he does is he
stays in office, stays in the cabinet. then he allows this book to be written and he comes out with this book and we're supposed to say oh, tim guy geithner, you're really a stand up guy. i think these people whose salaries we pay have a duty to the people, not to dan pheiffer or the president of the united states. their duty is to the taxpayers who pay their salaries and tim geithner on this issue should have actually come forward and said something at the time. >> sure. you know what? by that statement, susan rice, who was told just exactly the same way. she was told go out there and say it was the video. he was told go out there and lie on tv. they were both told to lie on tv. by that measure, susan rice should say, laura ingraham has got a good point. >> would you do it? if someone said to me, i want you to go out there -- this isn't really true, but we want to tamp down this benghazi deal. yeah, it's going to look bad for us and our base. they're going to get pavlovian
on us. i would say you better find someone else to do this dirty work. >> we have a conscience, right? >> right. >> you have to have a conscience to be able to do that. >> right. this is why americans in both parties have ultimate cynicism when it comes to washington. they don't believe republicans. they don't believe democrats. there are so few people who seem to have honor in our government, on capitol hill, and in the executive branch that it's a rarity when we have someone say i'm not going to do this. i don't agree with everything they're saying, but they're actually telling me to say something that is untrue and i can't do that. i think i would stand up and applaud if any individual did that today. >> while we have you fired up, i want to ask you about immigration and customs enforcement releasing 36,000 convicted criminals awaiting deportation convictions, drunk driving, be a straighted sexual assault, homicide here, your thoughts? >> the president is set to
announce a policy that will relax deportation and clarify deportation rules in the united states. we have people who committed dui and then went on to rape children. you have to google it and you'll see all these examples of why illegal immigration is not a, quote, victimless crime. we hear about the dreamers. dreamers are all valedictorians, okay, fine. what about the people who are 27-year-olds raping three-year-olds after being convicted of a dui? i think republicans and democrats should stand up for the people of this country who are often victims of these crimes. >> it shows what a great risk it is for the president to do this because if that does happen, we hope it doesn't, you know exactly where all fingers will point. >> you'll talk about that on your radio show in about 50 minutes from right now all across the country. thank you very much. >> thanks, guys. coming up, another day, another veteran affairs hospital called out for delaying health care to our nation's heros. where exactly is the president
on this? didn't he promise to fix that problem? then if you oppose common core, you're probably a far right extremist trying to destroy public schools. huh? that's what was said by one group. indiana governor mike pence just got rid of the curriculum and joins us live to weigh in. answer the governor, who is your governor. >> i like that. ♪ ♪ help keep teeth clean and breath fresh with beneful healthy smile snacks. with soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,it's dental that tastes so good. beneful healthy smile food and snacks.
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right. well, they're wrong. the state of indiana was the first state to drop the common core and joining us right now is the man who made that happen. the governor of the great state of indiana, mike pence, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> what do you think about that criticism? >> it's just unfortunate. the reality is throughout my public career, like i think most americans, i've always believed that education is a state and local function and the federal department of education was created by president jimmy carter. while 45 states just a few years back adopted the national standards known as the common core, we've got millions of americans that have been rising up and being heard, including in indiana and saying look, we want to right our standards and write our curriculum and choose our textbooks in our own state. i'm proud of the fact that indiana was the first state in the union to legally withdraw from common core and go through the process of writing our own standards. >> what is it about common core you don't like?
>> well, at the core of it, if you will, is my objection to the notion that the standards that are written for hoosier kids and hoosier schools were crafted somewhere other than indiana. look, part of the genius of the american experiment is that the states throughout our nation's history have been laboratories of innovation and been able to style policies like we have in indiana that deal with the unique populations and unique challenges. there are some things obviously, kids in first grade need to know certain levels of math and we have a gateway exam for kids to be able to learn to read before they can go on. so there are some things that are, in fact, a minimum standard. but i wanted standards in indiana to be written by hoosiers for hoosiers and to be uncommonly high and we went through the process and accomplished that on our own.
>> good for you. you're the first state to do it. as governor, i want to get your reaction to this, since 2011, governors of states who are democrats have enacted over $58 billion worth of tax increases. meanwhile, as you can see screen right, $36 billion of cuts to taxes by republicans. >> i think we've heard that before. >> it sounds like one party wants to raise your taxes and the other party wants to lower them. >> it explains why in 29 states led by republican governors, you're seeing the kind of growth that we're seeing. i'm proud that indiana has the lowest unemployment rate in the midwest. we've been able to pass balanced budgets, have strong reserves, invest increased funding in roads and schools and education innovation. but since i was elected governor, we've also passed some $650 million in annual tax relief. and all of that creates an environment where we're seeing
real growth in indiana. we got one of the fastest growing labor forces in the country, unemployment is on the downward trend and more hoosiers are going back to work. i think the american people can see a real contrast here between republican-led states and states led by democrat governors that are more inclined than ever it seems to raise taxes and grow government. >> that's one of the reasons you're in new york city. you're talking to different businesses with relocating to your state, which would be great for your state. >> when i'm in new york, we love to tell new yorkers, if you can make it here, you can make a lot more in indiana. >> i like that. that's catchy. what about your future? i know you were elected governor in 2013? >> 2012. took office in 2013. >> that's exactly right. so what's next for mike pence? are you thinking of another run for governor? are you thinking maybe something in washington, d.c. over on pennsylvania? >> steve, i have to tell you,
having been elected governor of the state that i love is the greatest honor of my life. it's consumed all of our attention and while i've read recently some people have talked about me and other things, i'm going to stay completely focused on the future of the people of indiana because this is an extraordinary time in the life of our state. i just have to tell you. look at indiana where we have balanced budgets, we're a right to work state, we're lowering taxes even while we're investing in infrastructure and education innovation. it's one of the reasons we had the lowest unemployment rate in the midwest, fastest growing work force. >> that's why he's the governor! he knows the story. >> indiana is on the move. i'll stay focused on the future of the state of indiana. let my future take care of itself. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, steve. >> good luck to you. it's now 20 minutes after the top of the hour. switching gears, coming up, no tackle football here. 7th graders forced to play flag football over safety concerns. is this just the woosification
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now time for headlines on this tuesday morning. clay aiken is now the democratic congressional candidate for north carolina in his district because his opponent, dead. 71-year-old keith krisco died after a fall inside his house. before his death, the primary battle with aiken was too close to call. and forget the moon. nasa now ready to land people on an asteroid. like that movie. astronauts started training, but the mission won't take place until after the year 2020.
let's go outside to the bus stop. >> as you know, elisabeth, jerome bettis is one of our great friends. he's going to talk about asthma and allergies. first things first. in football, the draft is over. let's talk about the future of the game. talk about head injuries and health. in 7th graders in texas, east texas, the whole school district says this is too rough. i don't want kids getting hurt. no more tackle. they're playing flag. >> in texas. >> the state that covets football. you have to understand the concern is that real. i understand that. i grew up playing flag football. i didn't play tackle football until high school. ninth grade. so i understand that you can still have a successful nfl career playing flag football. but more importantly than that, it's the concern i think with parents about their children.
children have long-term issues dealing with concussions. >> the demand for the sport is still there. you have over 100 million people watching the super bowl. something you're familiar with. even though it pained me at the time, i love you and so happy for the steelers now. but you have people wanting to watch the sport and parents who love the sport and kids want to play the sport. but we want to keep them safe. shouldn't we be working on ways to keep them safe, better means of tackling, better methods, so they don't get concussions? >> lieutenantly. i think that's what's happening now. you see the big push, especially with the nfl, in terms of educating the coaches. teaching the coaches the proper way to show kids how to tackle and teach kids how to tackle and play the game. i think that's the natural progression of how this is going to work. now you have to go back to education because that's the key in this process. educate the parents, the coaches on what they need to do and i think that's how it starts. >> there is something else you want to educate everyone on and that has to do with saving
lives. we're talking about concussions and long-term, but also allergies. you have an allergy. >> i have a shell fish allergy. it's life-threatening. a lot of people don't understand what anaphylaxis is. it's an allergic reaction. if you have an allergic reaction that is so much that it could be life-threatening. so that's why there is a new device that's available. >> hold it up. >> it's an auto injector that has audio and visual cues. when you pull it out of the sleeve, it talks to you. >> it does. i actually -- we witnessed our friends using this on one of their kids, saved their life. it's automatic. it tells you what to do. true life saver. >> it is. you can get more information on their web site. we've got a new program that is called what's your hey q. trying to educate, get people
educated about anaphylaxis. >> the thing is, in certain passing situations, they pull you out. i want to make it known on our team, you're always in the game. as we talk to steve, could i send you into motion or could elisabeth send knew motion -- send you into motion? >> absolutely. >> jerome bettis will break tackles all the way through broadway. do not try to tackle him. he does not go down easily. >> brian and elisabeth and jerome, thank you very much. coming up next on our show on this tuesday, no love in this elevator. beyonce's sister attacks her brother-in-law, jay-z. how did that video get out? who took the picture of the picture? now the hotel is responding. smack down. and is on line flirting
considered cheating? a judge says yes. it's grounds for divorce. is this legal insanity? arthur aidala, dr. keith ablow take on brian
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some political news. during his visit to the white house today, the president of uruguay lectured president obama about the dangers of smoking. then when obama said oh, i quit, hillary clinton ran past him into the oval office. >> that easy. funny stuff. what's that guy's name? >> seth myers on late night. >> they all look alike. >> 27 minutes before the top of the hour. still a lot of show left. >> that's right. someone who doesn't look like anybody else, heather nauert. >> thanks. good morning. got news to bring you. we talked about this story out of harvard university the past few days. good defeating evil on the campus of harvard. a student group satanic black mass that was to be planned for last night was canceled after locals became outraged by it. members of the cultural studies
club said they wanted to move the mass, but couldn't find a new location. christian students say they were relieved it was called off, but still can't believe the college would allow this in the first place. listen here. >> as members of the university, i'm just ashamed that in an environment that's otherwise committed to intellectual free tom, but also to civility would be allowing such a hateful event to happen. >> the group claim the mass was a historic satanic reenactment and that it was meant to be educational. beyonce and jay-z all smiles sitting court side at the game last night hours after this explosive video surfaced that is getting a whole lot of attention this morning. take a look at this. it shows beyonce's sister attacking her brother-in-law in an elevator. the video lasts 3 1/2 minutes. take a look at this. kicks and punches and all kinds of stuff. this happened at a party last week in new york city. you can see as her sister punches and kicks jay-z while a
body guard tries to hold her back. at the end of the clip, beyonce actually pulls them away from one another. they haven't spoken out about this yet. but the standard hotel where this happened blasted the person who leaked the video saying it's, quote, shocked and disappointed that there was a clear breach of our security system. and listen to this, is it the biggest discovery since 1492? one explorer is now saying that he has found christopher columbus' long lost ship, the santa maria. that ship apparently wrecked in a storm off the coast of haiti more than 500 years ago. researchers say they are confident that a full excavation will prove that it is the explorer's actual ship. pretty neat. and just call her a future obstetrician in training. an eight-year-old girl helps deliver her own baby brother. >> are you having contractions?
>> yes, very bad. >> i want you to place the palm of your hand -- >> it's coming out. the baby is out. >> oh, my. crystal snyder went into labor two weeks early. it happens. her daughter heard her screams and called 911. the dispatcher gave the instructions and six minutes later, a healthy baby boy was born. jasmine received a certificate from the hospital nurses for her bravery. how cute is that? look at that little girl. those are your headlines. an eight-year-old. well done. >> no kidding. >> see you later. >> i love that. 24 minutes before the top of the hour on this awfully busy tuesday. we've dispatched maria molina to the streets of new york city where it was a little breezy earlier. >> it's a little breezy out here. it's making it feel chillier. we're in the 60s. but you really need that jacket as you head out the door, at least throughout the morning hours due to the wind here across parts of the northeast. i want to take you farther west where we do have a storm system that's moving eastward and early this morning, it's producing areas of rain, from parts of
texas, up into illinois and there is a concern for some flash flooding. especially across eastern parts of texas and up into parts of arkansas due to the very heavy rain that's coming down. it's going to continue to come down with several inches of rain expected out there. not only today, but tomorrow. tomorrow, you have the risk for severe weather from parts of mississippi, up into ohio, cincinnati, nashville, memphis, jackson. heads up, you could be seeing that severe weather tomorrow, especially during the afternoon and evening hours. temperature wise, above average across the southeast. then 90s in parts of north carolina. cool hyped that storm system. only 50s for you in parts of colorado and new mexico. now let's head over to brian. >> thank you very much. infidelity, a french judge ruled using on line dating web sites while matter isn't only cheating, it's grounds for divorce? the case involves a couple married for 18 years. the wife caught flirting on the internet with a man she never met. but the judge granted the
breakup saying it was the sole fault of the wife who shared intimate photos of herself with a number of men. is this ruling fair or legal insanity? joining us now, dr. keith ablow and arthur aidala, a legal analyst. again, he says he went to school. we'll go on their judgment. >> i got diplomas. >> first off, do you agree with the french on this one? >> it's even easier in the united states of america. you don't even have to go that far. if one of the persons says it's irreconcilable differences that have been going on, the general rule of thumb is more than six months, that's grounds for divorce. it used to be you had to prove you haven't had sex in over a year, adultery, abuse. now it's just like nope, we haven't gotten along in over six months. >> if you're flirting on line, are you cheating? >> absolutely not. >> who raised you, young man! >> when did marriage become about only the romance? that's not a --
>> monogamy? >> taking care of kids, being financial partner, best friends. what 18-year married couple is sending naked photos of themselves to each other? hence, none. hence, it can't be part of the marriage. so how can it be grounds for divorce? >> how about we start the trend that the 15 year wedding anniversary you start sending naked photos to each other? i think that would be helpful. >> that's your friend, my trend. >> it's a good trend! >> there is flirting and then there is flirting. >> this judge said they were naked pictures. >> arthur, with your legal background, are naked pictures back and forth, maybe you're proud of your body. >> okay. it depends. if you're entering a body building contest, then she's proud of it -- what this judge looked at it, he didn't look at it from a fidelity point of view. >> a slippery slope. the bottom line is, look, we're not going to seed reality to technology that quickly in dr. ablow's office.
and couples -- if there is to be fault divorce, i think it should be no fault, this is not the fault. >> okay. thank you. we proved as a society is there is no fault. >> if you leave your spouse over cheating, you never loved the person. >> whoa! wow! hold on. don't let that go. if you leave your spouse over cheating it means you never loved them? >> i wasn't going to let it go. i was going to enhance the conversation. i was not going to leave it there. i can't let it go. this is all i got. one third of divorce litigation is caused by on line affairs. so you're saying that one third of those relationships are based on nothing? >> in my office, if couples come in and say, i'm leaving because she cheated, i say well, good. go. because you never loved her anyhow because if that physical breach is going to make you forget that she gets sick, you're not going to take her to the hospital because you never loved her --
>> listen to this, 46% of men consider their relationships to be infidelity. if you have a female client, you're more apt to have somebody who wants out. >> correct. >> my mother wanted to know, does dr. keith know about your situation? >> we have video. >> what he said is correct. a lot of divorce lawyers ask you before you get divorced, would you give your wife a kidney now if she needed it? you either say i'd give her the kidney or i'm getting divorced. >> bottom line is, i've been married lots of years. infidelity would not crush my marriage because my relationship is made up of more than the physical. >> do both parties feel that way
>> all right. dr. keith -- listen, just you two promise never to agree. >> we hardly ever do. coming up before i get yelled at, another day, another veteran affairs hospital called out for delaying health care to our national heros. where is the president on this? didn't he promise to fix that problem? your e-mails and tweets are pouring in. then she sings the songs we all know and love. country star kellie pickler. she not only is a great singer, a great personality and she just waved to me. it's to me, right? ♪ ♪
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bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev are in court attempting to get their trials moved out of massachusetts. they are accused of removing incriminating laptop and fireworks from dzhokhar tsarnaev's dorm room following last year's bombing. president obama awarding the medal of honor to army sergeant kyle white. the 27-year-old risked his life to save fellow soldiers during a deadly ambush in afghanistan in 2007. arlington national cemetery will be marking the 150th anniversary of its first burial. descendants of the first soldier buried there will attend a special wreath laying. steve? >> that is in arlington, virginia. here is a story out of durham, north carolina regarding the v.a. hospital there. we've been telling you over the last couple of weeks about the scandal that started in phoenix where they had a secret second list because any time you go in to a v.a. hospital, you've got to get care within 14 days, otherwise there is a problem.
well, another thing down there in durham, two employees have been placed on administrative leave because they, too, did this illegal selling thing. only two we know of obviously this thing is getting bigger and bigger. >> and the big question is, do they need a change at the top or do they need more aggressive management micromanaging down below? a lot of you are weighing in how to fix this and whose head should roll. >> diane said those responsible for mistreating our vets should be jailed. this behavior is disgraceful. >> terry on facebook writes, our government releases illegal immigrants accused of crimes ranging from d.u.i to murder, while imprisoning our veterans in a dysfunctional system. good point. famously, the v.a. hospital, people have talked for years about well, there is a lot of red tape and they got -- some of them lousy customer service. but outright corruption like this? that's shocking. >> yeah.
>> disheartening to think about our nation's heros going and risking their lives to come home and die waiting on a list? >> this is the good place. >> this is supposed to be where we're taking care of them. where is the promise? where is the outrage and where is the accountable and where is the president on this? where is the commander in chief? >> no kidding. >> standing behind general shinseki. we'll see what happens. meanwhile, coming up straight ahead, our final guest of the day. >> she is fantastic. one of country music's finest and this morning she is here live. superstar kellie pickler coming up and there, getting a touch up. >> martha mccallum has been in the chair and is ready to go. >> all touched up and ready to go. good morning. thanks so much. coming up this morning, a bizarre story out of north carolina where the runoff with clay aiken is over because his primary opponent died. we're going to tell that you story. disturbing news about the dangers of releasing some illegal immigrants. and a scuffle in the elevator
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well, her southern charm and big voice captivated the "american idol" audience eight years ago. ♪ oh, baby got to get out ♪ just got to get right out of here ♪ ♪ . >> what a flashback. since then kellie pickler's big win led to a strange of country music hits. but the music competition show still guarantees success for its breakout stars. here to weigh in is kellie pickler herself. >> hello. >> that was a couple hairdos
ago. >> i'm sitting here like whoa, wow. a lot has changed since then. weird to look like that. i feel like an antique idol. >> never. >> you were up and coming. we said it's eight years ago. you confirmed it. you came in sixth place. at that point, you had 20 to 30 million people watching. >> yeah. >> your life would never be the same. now it's down to about 7 million. how much is left. >> which is still a lot of people. >> it's a lot. but how much do you think is left in the franchise with idol, the voice and everything like that? >> there is a lot of reality singing competition shows out there. so i think you just have to find ways to reinvent the show and make it interesting and different than the season before it. >> it sounds like "american idol" is going to be cutting back the number of hours that they broadcast. >> are they? >> yeah, they are. >> for one day. >> they're going to cut it back to 37 hours next year. >> how does that affect the voting? >> that's a good question. as you look in and watch idol, is there something you think maybe they should do this and it
would pep up the ratings? >> i don't know. >> or do you think it's just perfect the way it is? >> i think like i said, there is always room to kind of reinvent. but keep it like it was. of course, i miss sigh -- simon. >> what's this? >> so crazy. >> i remember watching that and loving you then. >> that definitely takes me back for sure. >> this is a chance of a lifetime. >> it was. i've been so blessed. people ask me, what's it like to be on the show like that? for me, i can't complain. it was really the rocket that launched my career. and it enabled me to do what i love, which is be a part of country music. and us be a part of special things and do what i love. >> i love how you're so humble throughout all your success and so thankful for all that and the people who loved you dearly.
i know you have an important message today. your grandma died from lung cancer. >> she did. she was young. she was 66 years old. she was diagnosed with lung cancer in january of 2002 and she died the very next day. so it was very sudden. there she is. that's actually the last picture that we took together before she died. >> now you're getting that message out? >> yes. i was really shocked by that. i think there was 1% of women in america are even aware that lung cancer is the number one cancer killer for women. >> i had no idea. >> i was blown away. it's estimated that more than 72,000 women in the u.s. will die from lung cancer this year. >> terrible statistic. what do you want people to do? >> we need to get everyone rallied up for lung force at lungforce.org, find out how to
get involved and raise awareness. we need to be more educated on how we can prevent this and treat this. longforce.org. >> it's that simple? >> your grandma would be really proud. i know she's looking down, smiling. >> amazing to be part of something like this. obviously near and dear to my heart. so i think it's important. i love to sing, i love the music. but when i'm able to be part of something like this that really matters and helps save people's lives -- >> a lot of people are listening and a lot of people are going on line right now. >> thank you. >> kellie pickler, ladies and gentlemen. >> fame has not changed you at all. a few tattoos, that's it. >> that's it. >> we'll be right back. whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in.
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kellie pickler hanging with us now. tomorrow a former u.s. marshall revealing secrets about the marshall service. you'll be shocked. listen to army rangers. and normal or nuts. >> she'll be in the after the show show. log on right now. >> be yourself. bill: good morning, everybody. we have been watching this story throughout the night. a tragedy in west virginia. at least two people confirmed dead after a mine collapse. two minessers are trapped beneath the rubble. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to america's newsroom. martha: the word is the roof fell in. families rushed in get news of
officers after attacking a california woman outside a pizza parlor. the monkey will be kept in quarantine for six months to make sure it doesn't have rabies. no word on why a mon key was hanging out at a pizza parlor. >> thank you for joining us. "fox & friends" starts now. >> hello everyone. good morning. today is wednesday, the 6th of august, 2014. i'm anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. a wife and mother missing for two weeks found dead. this morning the latest details from the investigation. >> meanwhile, remember when our president declared the war in afghanistan over? >> the bottom line is it's time to turn the page after a decade in which so much of our foreign policy was focused on the wars in afghanistan and iraq. >> really? now it looks like the terrorists heard him loud and clearly and attacked the victim, a u.s. army general. what this says about president obama's foreign
policy. straight ahead. >> in a few hours a man accused of deserting the military will face questions about what happened. but there is a good chance bowe bergdahl may say nothing at all. good morning. mornings are better with friends. happy to have you here. >> you're watching "fox & friends," that's a great way to begin your day. >> thank you, don king. welcome to the big telecast live from new york city. brian and elisabeth off and in their place once again, just like yesterday, anna and peter. >> good morning. we're going to be starting our day off with the fittest people on the planet from cross fit. these people are celebrities in their own right. they are going to be racing across our plaza on their hands in a handstand. they are trying to get us in on the action. >> cross fit not so fit. also we're going to hear prosecute sean hannity in the program -- hear from sean hannity. he's been in israel. is the cease-fire holding?
>> the results coming in from primaries in four states. >> one of them my home state of kansas where the incumbent pat roberts fended off a tea party challenger. joining us from d.c. with the details is peter doocy. >> the two most prominent republicans in kansas who were in danger of losing their jobs in last night's primaries aren't going anywhere for now. the governor sam brownback easily defeated challenger jennifer winn and three-term incumbent senator pat roberts easily beat the tea party backed dr. milton wolf by more than 19,000 votes, 48% to 41%. roberts is now saying different parts of the party are going to have to come together if the g.o.p. wants to take over the senate. >> unit i don't see must happen if we are to keep kansas red. it must happen if we are going to defeat the obama
agenda and send harry reid packing. >> the roberts victory last night means that this cycle, senate incumbents have now won in kansas, mississippi, kentucky, south carolina and texas. but with the michigan results in, another house republican has fallen. the tea party backed carry bentivolio lost outnumbering two to one in michigan's 11th house district. pentivolio joins eric cantor. john dingell who is retiring saw his wife debby win the michigan primary for his seat. that is the seat dingell won in a 1955 special election when his father who served that district for two decades died.
>> i guess they don't have term limits this. peter doocy, live in washington, thank you very much. four minutes after the top of the hour. this morning a u.s. army general murdered, killed in an insider attack in afghanistan. somebody dressed as an afghan soldier opened fire at a group of people at a military academy near kabul killing major general harold greene and wounding 15 others. greene is the highest ranking american killed in combat since vietnam, something like that. this morning the president's abandonment of afghanistan coming under fire. pete hegseth is the c.e.o. of concerned veterans for america, also a veteran of the iraq and afghanistan wars. he joins us live. what do you think? >> when you lose someone of that stature, of that rank, it affects everybody. you feel like a general is invincible. the training mission is dangerous. it's an insider attack, a
very concerted tactic the taliban has used. when i was in afghanistan from 2011 to 12 there was a big surge in insider attacks. it does two things. it erodes the trust. it creates the headlines you see in "the new york times" today, is this mission worth it? should we stay? the taliban knows this. we underestimate our enemy time and time again. they want to get at the heart of our will and heart of our commitment. an attack like this does that. >> does this make the taliban seem like they are chasing us out of afghanistan. pef announced our -- we've announced their withdrawal. is this them trying to say it is because of us? >> sure. this is to create a perception that they are the wave of the future. the americans on the way out. that is what they do at -- with these members of the afghan military who are targeted to say americans are on the way out. we have the time, the
americans have the wawps. they're -- they have the watches. you better side with us or your families at risk. >> you were talking about the demoralization of our troops. now we have a general murdered by the taliban forces. the president didn't speak about that yesterday. what does that say to the troops? >> reenforces how detached he is from this conflict. the war in afghanistan, the one he called the good war, the one he was going to focus on as opposed to the iraq war, the troops have felt the fact it has been about withdrawal more than success from the beginning. that is what you're seeing in athe taliban is exploiting that perception to make it look like americans are on the way out and they are the future. >> the president of the united states did make comments yesterday, just not about this. he was talking about the africa summit. the white house apparently has briefed the president and now there is going to be an investigation or something like that.
but here is the president just a couple of months ago in may essentially washing his hands of the whole war thing. >> the bottom line is it's time to turn the page on more than a decade in which so much of our foreign policy was focused on the wars in afghanistan and iraq. >> this is a big touchdown for the enemy. >> that's right. turn the page. we don't get to turn the page if the enemy doesn't. the taliban hasn't turned the page. al qaeda, isis are not turning the page. they are redoubling their efforts because they have identified we are retreating, we don't care, we're not invested in the outcome. you've got islamists on the march, the taliban really controlling the countryside. what folks don't understand is if we leave afghanistan we're going to create another environment where the afghan army or afghan government. doesn't mean we stale together but following through on an investment you made is an important thing for the legacy of our troops, the commitment and security of our country. >> this is a blow to the
advisor-adviseee relationship we've got going on. pete hegseth from concerned veterans for america, thank you. >> it looks as if later today there is a good possibility that bowe bergdahl, the guy who went missing while serving back in 2009 over in afghanistan, we know he walked off post, we know his platoon mates say he was a deserter. and nonetheless, that's an image that was released by his attorney yesterday. his attorney says mr. bowe bergdahl is mentally ready to answer questions. >> it looks like life is pretty good for bowe bergdahl. from this image here to seeing the image of him preemg for -- preparing for the hearing with his attorney. it looks like he gained weight. they say he's mentally ready. what if he does not speak at all? what if he takes the fifth? is that in his best interest? >> under the code of military justice there is a greater right to attack the
fifth. they get a better so-called miranda right than civilians do in america. yesterday on "the five" it was indicated he might do that. let's listen in. >> i don't see any incentive for sergeant bergdahl to cooperate, participate. i expect we're going to see more kind of a lois lerner take the fifth not give the information because he is the worst witness against himself. if he doesn't say anything, he remains on active duty, in good standing, able to get a pension and continue to serve -- >> if he's not convicted. >> i don't particularly agree with kimberly. she is a great lawyer but on this issue i think there are attorneys taking the position that somehow -- and he hasn't indicated but engt best tactic -- but i think the bestactic is he was somehow confused and mentally ill. i think taking kind of a strong approach -- he said it in print, how do you put someone in jail after he has been jailed for five
years by the taliban? instead of taking this equitable approach that somehow his client is the victim here, so i think that there will be a robust defense and that he will cooperate the best that he possibly can in telling his story, even if it doesn't jibe with the facts that have been exposed back in the early army investigations. >> you would, peter, expect bowe bergdahl will go ahead and explain it all and they'll discount it to the fog war or something like that? but for his attorney to say, you know, he was being held for five years. that should count as something, that's his sentence. what about that guy is, to many americans, a deserter, a traitor. >> people died looking for him. >> these are all true. in speaking about the tactics, i do not believe there will be a fifth amendment defense here. he will not stand on his rights. they will come up with a version of what occurred that is in his best interest and skewed in terms of his own mental
condition at the time it took place and thereafter. this will be an interesting passion play in that sense. this will be a dramatic story that will be heard today. we won't hear it for awhile but they will come up with an interesting story to grab the attention of the army and eventually the white house, because that's the audience. the white house is going to dictate what happens to bowe bergdahl going forward. >> let's not forget he was held in a cage for some period of time but there were rots of fraternizing with them -- there were reports of fraternizing with them. other stories making headlines developing overnight, heather nauert joins us for those. >> i've got another story about a scare in the air. terrifying moments on a united airlines flight packed with 200 passengers. a fire breaks out on that plane and look at this picture taken by a passenger. there was a fire fighter inside the plane. we don't see these kinds of
pictures often. this flight was headed to brussels from newark, new jersey, when the pilot was forced to make an emergency landing in canada. no one was hurt and no word on what caused that fire. a tragic update on a story we have followed extensively here at fox. the oregon mother who mysteriously vanished while she was running errands two weeks ago has been found as dead. authorities discovered jennifer huston's body near her s.u.v. in a wooded area about 25 miles from her house. >> we do not suspect foul play at this time and there is nothing to suggest that the public should be alarmed. >> just before the 38-year-old disappeared she withdrew money prt bank, she -- money prt bank, bought snacks and sleeping pills and filled up her gas tank. she leaves behind her husband and two young sons. today closing arguments begin in the so-called porch shooting trial. before that case goes to a
jury, theodore wafer spent two days on the stand and tried to convince a detroit jury that he shot an unarmed teenager in self-defense when she showed up on his front porch. listen to this. >> i didn't want to be a victim. i opened the door all the way as much as i could. then as soon as i did that, this person came up to the side of my house so fast, i raised the gun and shot this poor girl. >> some are comparing the case to the case of trayvon martin. that was the teenager shot and killed in florida in 2012 by george zimmerman, that happening in detroit. >> a beautiful home meets an ugly ending. the moment a powerful mudslide destroyed this house is all caught on camera. look at this.
the family heard a noise right before the home was shoved off its foundation. thank goodness for that, because they heard that they were able to escape that house. this happened in the up scale neighborhood in north salt lake, utah. it was a massive 400-foot wide hole now left in that hillside. experts fear more mudslides are on the way and that ground is unstable. those are your headlines. that happening in salt lake. a lot of folks nervous after that. >> a fox news alert now. trouble at the airports as ebola fears spread around the world. this morning one airline already canceling flights. british airways will no longer fly to the affected african area. dr. marc siegel live at jfk international airport. good morning. >> good morning. i'm here at john f. kennedy international airport terminal 4 where international arrivals and
departures including flights to and from west africa. the centers for disease control prevention has 20 quarantine stations around the country including one here in this terminal. i spoke to dr. steve monroe, who is the deputy director of c.d.c. for emerging infectious diseases and he says the first line of defense is to try to control the outbreak in the country where it started. >> one of the things we are doing is sending some of our staff to the countries that are affected to help them with their exit screening procedures to try to identify sick people before they get on an airplane and to also identify people by questionnaire who may have had one of these high-risk expoa shiewrs, that is a known exposure to a patient or to their body fluid. >> the next line of defense is at this airport where the c.d.c. can get a call from a plane and meet the
plane on landing, bring an ambulance and take the patient right to a hospital or they can use these quarantine stations to detain patients. peter, they have a legal right to detain patients if they have a contagious disease that could be deadly like ebola. then c.d.c. will sometimes bring them right into the quarantine station. let's watch dr. steve monroe talk about the initial screen. >> as a part of that initial screen, they might try to assess where the person came from, what they might have potentially been exposed to and how sick they are. how symptomatic they are when they get off the plane. there are a small number of diseases for which c.d.c. does have authority to order somebody into isolation and prevent them from entering the country. >> dr. monroe says, by the way, that they can make a risk assessment either by phone or in person and decide that the person didn't come into contact with a disease like ebola. then they let them go and they don't detain them.
guys? >> dr. segal, the main line of defense is the people at the airport where they take off from or here look at somebody and if they have a fever, then they start to ask some questions. but if they don't have a fever, keep in mind the incubation period can be three weeks, there is a real good possibility somebody with ebola could walk right in and not develop it for another two weeks and then wind up in an e.r. somewhere. >> that is a very good point and they're doing surveillance in the countries where they're leaving from. they're actually in west africa now trying to figure out who has this problem. it is after you leave the airport you find you have symptoms, then you call the c.d.c., they bring you right back to the quarantine station here. >> we got e-mails from viewer. kimberly asks is there a way to screen people for the virus before they get on a plane? >> first of all, you're not going to get it on a plane. you're not going to get it by touching somebody or if
they're sweaty. you're not going to get it that way. but if they have a fever or flu-like symptoms, that is when they are contagious and that is when the c.d.c. has to be notified. 150 times last year the c.d.c. was notified by an airplane while in the air. >> dr. segal, steve answered this but this viewer linda is asking what is incubation period exactly? how many are coming to the u.s. sick but showing no symptoms yet? >> the incubation period is 7 to 21 days. this is a very smart period. this could be a problem. i want to emphasize with only 1,500 cases approximately in west africa if you're sick with flu-like symptoms it is extremely unlikely you have ebola unless you were in contact with a patient who had it. >> great point. dr. marc siegel live out of jfk where they have got a quarantine area, one of 20 airports in the united states. sir, thank you very much. >> we're going to be in a quarantine area later today, steve.
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good morning everybody. thanks for spending your wednesday with us. on to international headlines. concerns this morning. a new senate report on the c.i.a.'s use of interrogation techniques will put agents around the world at risk. as a result, the state department is increasing security at some american embassies around the globe. a russian crime ring pulling one of the largest security breaches, stealing more than one billion user names and passwords from 420,000 websites. 500 million e-mail addresses also compromised. some of the victims include the auto industry, car
rental businesses and hotels. >> meanwhile, time to step into the fox light for a new movie that almost seems ripped from the headlines, a town ravaged by twisters and the people who all pull together to make it out alive. take a look. >> live the life you have imagined. [siren] >> inside in an orderly fashion. here we go! >> oh my goodness, the new movie is called "into the storm" and michael tammero was first in line at the premiere in new york city. >> this story follows people from all walks of life from teachers to storm chasers trying to survive an onslaught of twisters threatening their hometown. the if you think the effects are totally cool, becaum are real and these actors had to toughen up to play
the part. [screams] >> it's like staring at fire. i think there is a human instinct captivated by courses of nature. >> it kinds of pummels you to see what mother nature can throw at you. >> i play a school teacher who has to go on a journey to find one of his boys in the course of the storm. >> everything except the twisters themselves were actually occurring. it is a miracle one of us didn't get hurt. >> you are really blocking things out because you don't want to get hit. it was an experience. >> it's a lot of real wind, real rain, real debris flying at us. we were wait 90% -- >> it doesn't feel like they are intense but they are intense. we had 100 and 140-miles-per-hour wind
machines, we had rain, debris. we felt like we were really in a tornado. >> every time i got dry, had to go back in there. >> the water coming down on you, the wind. >> bring it on. i love it. >> i'm reading scripts differently. i now figure out how many pages i'm wet and cold for. at some points the makeup artists would say keep it up kid. >> you learn something about tornadoes you didn't know going into it? >> i don't want to be in one. >> we are the comic relief for the film. would he play one of the storm chasers. >> when you're in the middle of a tornado you need comic row lef. >> and you need beer. >> and whiskey and you need to be dumb as hell. >> who's harry? who's lloyd? >> that's a good question. i don't even know. >> i tell you what i'm wearing. >> who are you wearing?
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listening to katy perry "dark horse." >> katy perry tweeted available for baby sitting at $10 an hour and oreos. >> let's just watch the second she realizes. >> like clockwork. great video. 26 minutes before the top of the hour. we have a fox news alert right now. jirl -- israeli tanks maintain defense positions as the cease-fire in the gaza enters its second day. sean hannity on the ground surveying the damage. >> this is where it hit. it wept through a lot of -- went through a lot of layers of cement. i picked up this and this is some shrapnel from the bomb that went off. here's the interesting part, though, and help me
through this. as you go into this area, shrapnel here penetrating what is a washer and dryer. shrapnel, this wasn't here until this morning. obviously maximum impact. you can see the broken damage. it is not just this one. if you walk into this area here, these are not small holes. these are big holes. >> just imagine that's your backyard. and with negotiations set to continue today in cairo, will the 72-hour trows -- truce hold? sean hannity joins us from jerusalem. sean, what's the latest? >> reporter: we're at the temple mound and the western wall is over my right shoulder. what we showed you yesterday, that was an attack, we spent most of yesterday at the israeli gaza border. that was one location. that attack, six mortars
that landed in that community literally hit roit where a -- right where a housing unit was. this is a life they live everyday. we went fo a town and while we were there kids can't play outside. they have to play in an inside playground, four to five bunkers surrounding the whole thing. we saw rockets covered at the police station. we went to the center of the mayor of cyrot and spent a lot of time seeing what life is like on a daily basis. in the last ten years, to give people context of what goes on in those border towns, 10,000 rockets in ten years. i think that is the untold story of life in israel for the average person. one thing that i did learn today, in fact, we know that negotiations are going on in egypt at this very hour to extend the cease-fire possibly even longer than it is expected to go on. >> that's good news. i understand you also at one point you were talking
about how life goes on. you were near a playground. imagine if you're a parent and you want to send your kids outside to play but you don't know if a rocket is going to go off in the playground, what do you do? >> inside the playground you have young kids, older kids, some as old as 16. they've got a soccer field, basketball courts, air hockey and ping-pong tables. i spent some time playing with a lot of the kids. they can play outdoors. and i would ask the parents, because i'm thinking 10,000 rockets in ten years, not a life i would want to live myself. i asked them why do you stay? the answer was we are not going to be forced out of our home out of terror. i'm not sure i would make the same decision but that was the universal answer i got from every parent. interestingly, some of the money that came to build that facility came to estee lauder who heard about the town and the fact that the
kids didn't have a place to play and so made a significant donation for that playground. >> thank you, sean hannity, live from jerusalem where he is reporting live. the cease-fire is holding. >> steve, one last thing: where we are at the temple, you're talking about the center of mono theistic religion. you have the arrest -- you have the armenian quarter, christian quarter. tonight we will bring you through the wall of the gates, the holy selpucher, the place where it is believed jesus was buried rising from the dead, if you're a christian. and a lot of, all these significant religious sites are where we are which brings into context a lot of battle that goes on and
for the heart of jerusalem and whether jerusalem should be the capital of israel. we'll have experts on tonight to talk about it. >> great point. sean hannity from the holy land. sean, thank you. >> other stories making headlines. >> we've got news at home and police in the pacific northwest need your help to search for a missing-year-old -- missing 16-year-old girl in washington girl. this as police keep a close eye on her father who was once charged with molesting his stepdaughter. both parents have taken lie detector tests. results have not been made public at this time. two of their other children have been taken from them. jenise was last seen saturday night. fresh off his lawsuit from a dead navy seal, jesse ventura going after chris kyle's widow.
chris kyle once wrote in his book that jesse ventura made negative comments about the navy seals. jesse ventura saying he is the victim and going after his wife. >> i've been beaten up. the lawsuit didn't come to her. she made a choice to come into it. i think it was done as a tactic for court. >> this video is simply incredible. a car with a woman trapped ip -- inside is no match for mother nature. mother nature is no match for some airmen, good samaritans. take a look at this. this happening about 30 miles north of las vegas. members of the u.s. air force whopped to -- who happened to be nearby ran
into the car to pull an 80-year-old woman out. seconds later the car was carried off. a big congratulations to them. >> terrific. >> great heroism and courage. incredible. coming up, a fox news alert. a wife and mother missing for two weeks found dead this morning. the latest details from the investigation. >> and the red line on syria outraged a singer so much, he put his words into a song. ♪ ♪ ♪
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[singing] >> john haber is the song writer. good morning to you. that first line was essentially you put yourself in the shoes of the people over there and they hear obama say you can't cross that red line and what does that mean to them. >> exactly. i tried to put myself in the situation of a person living there, a regular guy who want to live his life and he's been through a year and a half of devastation with a civil war that pretty much the world is ignoring what's going on and the one sign of hope that is going to have the situation better is taken away after nothing was followed up with the red lines. >> the song sounds great and the message is important. and what you're doing is you're going to donate some of the proceeds where, from the down loads? >> all the profits from the
down loads of the song i'm going to give to help the kids that are being helped by israeli hospitals. a lot of people don't know that israel has taken in some of the kids that are enemies. i'm going to give the money to the hospitals. >> john, there are so many things you could write songs about. why about the red line in syria? >> we have an album of 12 songs. >> are you a real political guy? >> i'm into politics, news, like to read, try to be hip to what's going on in the world. this song, it was such a crazy, to relive the situation there, what was happening. we're going in, we're not going in. it was kind of a train wreck. from the humanitarian they think, how does someone there feel. >> thank you. >> if you want to download it look for "red line" by deck three. a dozen minutes before the top of the hour. we showed you how kids react to finding guns in
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>> very nice. >> it's cross fit -- is cross fit okay for somebody over 50? >> yeah. actually they have a master's level. aid guy from my gym that i own who is 60 plus. got 12th in the world. >> then i could do anything. >> one of the wildest things is watching them, they can walk on their hands. can we do like a competition, men versus women? >> sure. >> excellent. >> let's see. >> you want to go this way? >> this is the finish line. >> she's a a gymnast. ready, set, action! ♪ >> yeah, i don't think i'm doing that. >> four years in a row you've
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try one today. good morning. today is wednesday, the 6th of august, 2014. i'm anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert, a wife and mother missing for weeks found dead. so what happened? this morning the latest details from the investigation. and a former president is defending hamas and jimmy carter is not alone. so how could some americans side with terrorists? charles krauthammer will explain that to us. we showed you how kids react to finding guns where they're playing, like this. but is this happening when you send them over to a friend's house? how to have that crucial conversation with your neighbors and your children and we'll tell you how this morning, because mornings are always better with
friends like you. >> it's time for "fox & friends." friends like you, peter johnson, jr. >> anna, awesome job walking on your hands. >> i'm shaking a little. i could only do one step. >> exhausted me. >> cross fit, ladies and gentlemen. we have got a starting right now with election results. >> while you were sleeping, primaries in four states. >> one, kansas, incumbent, senator pat roberts fend odd a tea party challenger. >> now the late breaking details with peter doocy. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. establishment republicans rolled to easy victories in the first primaries of august. kansas, tea party support failed to give dr. milton wolf the boost that he needed in a challenge to senator pat roberts. he managed to pull in 41% of the gop vote, though.
so now roberts is saying voters need to rally behind one republican to increase their odds of taking over the senate. >> unity must happen if we are to keep kansas red. it must happen if we are going to defeat the obama agenda and send harry reid packing! >> kansas republican governor sam brownback beat his challenger, jennifer nguyen, 63% to 37%. the roberts results in kansas is the latest victory for senate incumbents this cycle where senators in mississippi, kentucky, south carolina and texas have also all held on. another house republican lost last night, though. tea party favorite beaten by a businessman who wants to be a congressman. he joins eric cantor and hall as
the only incumbents to lose this cycle. in michigan, the longest serving congressman ever, john dingell, saw the race won by his wife, debbie dingell. she moves on to november with a chance to keep michigan's 12th district seat in the family. back to you in new york. >> all right. peter doocy live with the postgame show from last night's election results. thanks. other stories making headlines, heather nauert joins us for those. >> good morning. a real tragedy for the united states and our u.s. military. our country is mourning the loss of a two-star major general, general harold green was murdered in afghanistan. he served 34 years. what a career in the u.s. army. he was killed in an insider attack in afghanistan. he is the highest ranking american officer killed in combat overseas since the vietnam war. someone dressed as an afghan soldier opened fire at the officer training facility, wounding 15 other military
personnel, including eight americans. major green was 55 years old. he leaves behind a wife and two children. sergeant beau bergdahl hours away from facing army investigators. his lawyer says he's mentally ready to answer questions and will be as cooperative as possible. a new picture released by his attorney shows him right here. looks pretty healthy as he prepares to sit down with an army general looking at the circumstances of his 2009 disappearance in afghanistan. fellow soldiers accused him of deserting his post. this questioning comes three months after he was traded for five taliban prisoners. deadly ebola virus is now spreading as new cases are now reported in nigeria. airports are become the first line of defense by stepping up screening. health screenings at that. a flight at new york jfk airport was held after a passenger fell ill. cdc officials quickly ruling out
ebola, thank goodness. other airlines say they are playing it safe. british airways suspending all flights to liberia and sierra leone for one month. here in the united states, a second infected patient is undergoing experimental treatment in atlanta. the two patients are said to be improving. terrifying moments on a united airlines flight that was packed with 200 passengers on board when a fire breaks out. take a look at this picture. it was taken by a passenger. you see firefighter inside that plane. that flight was headed from brussels from newark, new jersey. the pilot was forced to make an emergency landing in canada. no one was hurt and no word on what caused that fire just yet. cameras everywhere. you don't often see a fireman on an airplane. but thank goodness everybody is okay. >> thank you very much. former president jimmy carter has a long-standing reputation as the most
ineffective foreign policy of any modern presidency until now for many, but we're not going to get into the until now business. jimmy carter and former president of ireland, a woman named mary robinson, have written an op ed in foreign policy magazine and what they're doing is they want the united states to recognize hamas, which is a terrorist organization, to the exclusion of israel, which has been our ally for decades. so jimmy carter says we've got to recognize the terrorists. >> yeah. let's read an excerpt for our viewers from this. it says, the united states and e.u. should recognize hamas is not just a military, but also a political force. hamas cannot be wished away nor will it cooperate in its own demise. only by recognizing its legitimacy as a political actor, one that represents a substantial portion of the palestinian people can the west begin to provide the right incentive for hamas to lay down
its weapons. so peter, legit mazing hamas, the terrorist organization, is this going to embolden them and our other adversaryies? >> absolutely. yes. you make a good point in asking that question. the legitimacy of a terrorist organization is always in question. so for a former president to say it needs to be legit mazed as a political actor in the world, along with other states, that's a huge, huge issue, especially when we heard sean hannity talking earlier today about 10,000 missiles being hurled into israel over this ten-year period in this area that he was in and now a president saying oh, no, let's recognize hamas. recognized by the u.s. as a terrorist organization. >> charles krauthammer was on the channel last night trying o explain why some clueless americans feel that way about
hamas. here he is with bill o'reilly. >> i would draw a sharp distinction between the european sympathizers and the american ones. when it comes to europe, i think the overwhelming factor is raw native, deep seated anti-semitism. this is 2,000-year-old anti-semitism. in the united states, it is very different. anti-semitism is not a major factor here. of all the countries that the jews have lived in in 2,000 years, this is the most tolerant, friendly, loving country that the jews have ever known. what i think is the most important factor here is shear, raw, ignorance. they have no idea what hamas is. all that you said, they have no idea, for example, that there is no occupation in gaza. you'll hear them talk about gaza being occupied. the israelis left in 2005. they tore out their settlements. there is not a settler. there is not a soldier, there is
not a jew left in gaza. do any of these people know it? no. are they aware of the fact that hamas' charter calls not just for the destruction of israel, but for the killing of jews everywhere in the world? this is an openly genocidal organization. >> and how can you negotiate with them when they play by their own rules? remember the cease fire we just had last week and the israelis were going into the markets and they're stocking up on supplies, thinking the coast is clear because of the cease fire, and all of a sudden, boom. they're not playing by the rules. sean hannity is on the ground in israel at this hour. he's been talking with residents there and seeing what they're dealing with, exploring an indoor playground/bomb shelter in israel. look at this. >> in the last ten years, just to give people some context of what goes on in those border towns with gaza, 10,000 rockets in ten years. i think that's the untold story of life in israel for the average person. we do know that negotiations are
going on in egypt at this very hour to extend the cease fire possibly even longer than it's expected to go on. >> here the architect wanted to have a big merry go round, like the one you see in disney world and big parks because it's nice. but then by the way, i think the merry go round was the very first thing the architect put on paper. but then the ideas came and the ideas had to approve everything and they saw the plans and said sorry, you can not have a merry go round and we said why? this is the nicest thing for a kid with the lights and horses and music. they said there is only one problem. it takes 25 seconds to stop a merry go round. they only have 15 seconds to run for coverment end of story. >> when the air raid sirens go off, they only have 15 seconds and that's why they have to build indoor playgrounds for the kids. >> to imagine a child's activity is limited by the time it takes to get to a bomb shelter, that's
staggering and we see anti-semitism is rising around the world. so that's why it's surprising to hear president carter speaking out so forcefully on behalf of hamas being recognized as a legitimate political actor. >> which he has supported in the past as well. >> incredible. >> it's currentsly 7:11 here in new york city. we've got a fox news alert for you. a wife and mother missing for weeks, that woman, found dead. authorities discovered the body yesterday near her suv in a remote wooded area 25 miles from her house. what happened to jennifer huston? ainsley earhart is here with the latest details on the investigation. >> thank you. the cause of the death isn't released yet. detectives are still processing the scene, but police say it does not look like there was a crash or anyone else involved. >> there is nothing to suggest that the public should be alarm
ed. >> the person who owns that land spotted jennifer's suv on his private property about an eighth of a mile from his house. then he told his wife about seeing a lexus on their land. >> i said, what color is it? he said green. i said, dark green? and i knew right then. >> police found the 38-year-old's body 50 feet away from that green suv. she was wearing the same clothes that she had on when she vanished on july 24. the mother of two disappeared that day while she was running errands. she took out 100 bucks from the bank, she filled up her car, bought some snacks and then some sleeping pills at a local drugstore. minutes later, her cell phone was turned off and the battery was not dead, according to police. her father and her husband joined us on "fox & friends" on monday speaking out about their desperate search and they were clearly exhausted. >> we're just graping at straws. any time we hear about a sighting or something, we're all
over it. once or twice we've jumped in the car and ran somewhere we thought a vehicle was seen at. >> the family has now asked for privacy in order to grieve and to process their loss. jennifer leaves behind her husband and her two boys, ages six and two. back to you, anna. >> all right. thank you so much. a tragic end to that story. 13 minutes after the hour. in a few hours, closing arguments are set to begin in the so-called porch shooting trial. before the case goes to the jury. theodore waiver tried to convince a jury he shot an unarmed teen-ager in self-defense when she showed up in her porch last year. >> i didn't want to be a victim. i opened the door all the way, as much as i could. then as soon as i did that, this person came out from the side of my house so fast, i raised the gun and shot.
this poor girl. >> this case raising controversy. some drawing parallels between her and trayvon martin. is that a fair comparison? let's ask our legal experts. good morning. thanks for being with us. >> good morning. >> i'll start with you, what are the differences between these two cases? >> the difference is this defendant was in his home. >> okay. he wasn't outside or walking around a housing complex. two, this was a teen-ager and it was a woman who was knocking on his door, who was look for help as she had been in a car accident. also what is different in this case is we don't know a this is ha high crime neighborhood. he testified about an incident where there was a car that was hit with a paint ball after the tigers lost a game. that to me is not indicative nor is it consistent with a high crime neighborhood and he was
not a victim of prior break-ins. >> eric, what we do know is she was screaming, she was drunk. is there a reasonable fear this man may have had for his life because in order to take a life, you have to have fear for your own life? >> we're not sure he had a reasonable fear. however, the facts are still that it was 4 a.m he stated that he was asleep and he was startled, which any one of us if someone is banging on your door at 4:00 a.m., you would automatically be alarmed if you weren't expecting anyone. so if he conveyed that to the jury that he had a reasonable fear that there were break-ins in the area and a high crime area, he may get a not guilty verdict. >> was there a 911 call before bullets were fired? >> there was no call. he didn't pick up a cell phone. he picked up a gun. he knew enough that there was an african-american woman banging on his door at 4:30 in the morning and he shot. he shot and he killed her. how he can convince this jury that he had a reasonable fear that his life was in danger is
beyond me. this is similar to the trayvon martin case to the extent that it's biracial. but this is a man who should not be allowed to pick up a gun and shoot and that's what makes this very different. >> is this a case, eric, of somebody protecting themselves or someone being trigger happy? >> well t could be a case of both because this goes to what he believed. there was evidence that there was climbing on the air conditioner and the police did not process the evidence. and he stated and testified that he heard banging on the side, banging on the front door, banging on the side, banging on the front door, which instilled his possible fear, which i can reasonably understand. >> so you want to speak out individually. we'll have to leave it there 'cause i want to jump topics to jody arias. on monday it was said she's going to be able to represent herself in the penalty phase of her trial. is this going to be something advantageous for her to be able to speak to the jurors one by
one? >> based on her prior experience, i don't think this is advantageous for her at all. look, she has a ged, that is not a ged. you need to have lawyering experience to voir dire to question jurors. she doesn't have that experience. i don't know that she'll be able to do this successfully. why put something that -- fix something that isn't broken? her attorney last time was able to successfully save her life in the last penalty phase. so i would have stuck with my attorney because obviously the jury liked her and as we saw during the murder trial, we weren't necessarily sure whether the jury liked jody arias and found her to be somebody who was worth saving. >> eric, is she going to just say hey, this was self-defense, as she has before, or is she going to start going cocoa bananas doing head stands like we saw in the video to try to make it seem like she's off her rocker? >> the guilt phase is over. this is about saving her life at
this point. what she wants to do is connect with the jury. she wants to talk to them and probably try to charm them, which could backfire on her because they will know that she's conniving. they will know that she was found guilty of this and it could backfire. >> i agree. i think that -- i'm not sure this was ever a death penalty case. but what we know about death penalty cases is that there are appeals after appeals after appeals. for this trial judge to let jody arias represent herself in the penalty phase is inviting an appeal, which means another trial, which means taxpayer dollars paying for this woman's third trial. it's bad decision and if she's convicted for the death penalty, i suspect this will be the reason it's overturned. >> all right. thanks for your time today. >> thank you. 18 minutes after the hour. coming up, brand-new information about that double decker bus crash in the heart of times square. we just learned police arrested one of the drivers.
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you can see right there, time for news by the numbers. first, two. that's how many people were attacked by sharks in florida in the last three days. both incidents happening in brief regard county. a 45-year-old woman and nine-year-old boy were attacked but are expected to be okay. next, ten pounds. that's how much weight nba superstar lebron james has shed this season. ten pounds. james taking instagram to show off his skinnier frame. the star saying he's cut out carbs. no bread for him. and 60 seconds. that's how long mcdonald's is promising to take to deliver your drive-through order or it's free. the 60-second promotion is only good at participating south florida mcdonald's. terrific. peter, over to you. >> thanks. in the past 20 years, the
f.d.a. has approved only one drug, only one for any childhood cancer and the national cancer institute uses 96% of their budget for adult cancer research. so why are children with cancers and diseases being left behind, sometimes and too often to die? joining us now is the mother who tragically lost her own son, jacob, to a rare brain tumor. nancy goodman, who is the founder and executive director of kids versus cancer. thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you for having me, peter. >> you helped change american history and provide an incentive for american companies to develop pediatric cancer drugs and other drugs that will save children. when they do so, they basically get a reward or a voucher from the federal government that they can actually sell thereafter and you provide this incentive. tell us about the act that you helped create and why you did it. >> thank you, peter. it's called the creating hope
act. i created it because when my son jacob was diagnosed with a pediatric brain cancer, i was shocked and amazed to find out that the drugs he was receiving were 40 years old. and they didn't work. so that's the purpose of the creating hope act, to give companies a reason to develop drugs for kids. >> so what's happened, nancy, in terms of millions of dollar transaction that came about as a result of one of these pediatric cancer drugs? >> so last week the first voucher was sold, peter. it was sold for $67.5 million, which is great. it means the program works and the company that sold it, their market cap increased by half a billion dollars and another up with of the two companies that purchased it, their market cap increased by $20 billion upon announcement of the sale. so that means the program works and if companies develop drugs
for kids with cancer and other serious illnesses, they'll be -- there will be financial gain for those companies. >> congratulations. let's talk about compassionate use. we focused on josh hardy and his ability finally to get the drug that he needed that could help save his life. you had a hard time getting compassionate use for your own child. what advice would you give to mothers and fathers and family members as they try and save their children that may have a pediatric cancer for which there is no approved drug? >> it's a terrible problem, peter. i think what we really need to do as a society, one is fix the compassionate use program. there is some structural problems in it. and second, we have to find ways to encourage or acquire companies to offer pediatric trials of new drugs earlier. >> well, as a pediatric cancer survivor, nancy, i thank you for what you've done. you've really created history and provide an incentive for drug manufacturers to help our
youngest and most vulnerable population. nancy goodman, thanks so much for doing what you've done. >> thank you, peter. coming up, three huge storms, including two hurricanes threatening beach goers across the country. maria molina with what you need to know. and then we showed you how kids react to finding guns in their play area. is this happening when you send them o a friend's house? do you even know if the parents own a gun? how to approach that crucial and maybe life-saving conversation, coming up on "fox & friends." ♪ ♪ your eyes. even 10 miles away. they can see the light of a single candle.
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♪ >> are you hungry? are you thirsty? it's your shot of the morning. today we are celebrating national root beer float day. maria molina is on the plaza with more. good morning. >> hi. good morning. that's right. it's national root beer float day. a and w restaurants are here on the plaza handing out free root beer floats to anyone that is passing by. you can stop at select stores to pick up your free root beer float. and by the way, they're also going to be raising awareness and donations for the wounded warrior project. so they're also big supporters of our nation's heros. they have been doing this, this is the second year they've been doing this. last year they raised up to $100,000 in donations for the wound warrior project. so that is just a wonderful thing they're doing and by the way, a and w started in 1919 just as a little stand outside. they were making some floats and it became a huge success eventually and during the return
of the world war 1 when veterans came back, they actually had this as well because they were participating in the parade then with the root beer float. a lot of history with a and w. come on by if you are in manhattan, 48th and 6th, for your free float and stop by your local stores. let's head back inside. >> that's right. thank you very much. >> there was root beer first or ice cream first? >> i think the ice cream first. >> a lot of first kisses probably. >> i remember we used to go to the a and w root beer and it was always a happy day when my dad would bring the great big one gallon jug of a and w root beer home. >> what did you say? >> that there was probably a lot of fir kisses over root beer. >> you're probably right. >> that would result in a lot of root beer float mustaches. go get a free root beer today. meanwhile, brand-new video into "fox & friends" right now. listen to the moment two double
decker buses crash in the heart of times square two blocks from right here. you can see people running and the traffic light toppling onto the crowd. police have just arrested one of the drivers. channel 5 here in new york's reporter is in times square. what do we know about the driver who has been arrested? >> reporter: good morning to you guys and good morning, everyone. the driver's name is william delambar, a 50-year-old marne from new jersey, a long-time driver with gray line buses. little is known about his criminal past, if there even is one. police tell us this is a guy who should not have been behind the wheel. he was charged with driving while ability impaired. they tell me he had drugs in his system. not narcotics, but some type of prescription or over the counter medication.
a guy who should have taken the day off and not taken that shift because we know what happened next. you've probably seen the video by now. you just saw some new video. let's check out the earth cam video of it. two double decker buses crashing into each other at 47th and 7th and taking down a light pole with it. you see on this earth cam video, people start to scurry. the light pole comes down. debris shatters like shrapnel is what people told us when we arrived on scene yesterday. a number of injuries. 14 people injured. three people seriously, including one of the tour bus operators on another bus. apparently she got her head stuck underneath the dashboard. chaotic scene here. certainly there were a lot of tours in the area. anybody who has been to times square in the afternoon knows how busy it can be. a lot of people panicked. and we can also tell you guys we are hearing from police that this was an unusual event in and of itself. but earlier in the day, this area was shut down prior because
there was a bomb scare that occurred in this area. so especially a lot of patrons of the restaurants, people would work around here weren't quite sure what exactly was going on. they had the bomb scare and then they had this bus crash. so it made for a very uneasy tuesday for people who work in this area and people who just want to take in times square. that's the latest from times square, i'll send things back to you in the studio. >> live there and today is matinee day where they have the matinees on times square and broadway. is driving under the influence of prescription drugs is that on par with a dui? >> it can turn into a dui. anyone who drives in manhattan knows that the peril is sometimes posed by these bus, they're kind of a pain in the neck. you wonder sometimes who is actually training some of these folks. there is a bunch of different lines out there. a lot of lawsuits, big investigation i predict. big regulation moving ahead against these types of bus lines
to prevent exactly these type of accidents. >> the double decker buss are so huge, so long, they block entire sections. i rode my bike home yesterday and i couldn't get through. cabs were laying on their horn. >> great service and great fun, but they can be hazardous sometimes. >> it's 23 minutes before the top of the hour. and heather nauert joins us with some news. >> good morning. an update for you on a story that we told you about. a woman in pennsylvania charges not dismissed against the mother who carried her registered gun across state lines. a judge now ruling that she will have to go to trial for being found in possession of this gun during a traffic violation in the state of new jersey. here is what happened. she presented her concealed carry permit for pennsylvania, but that isn't recognized across state lines in new listen. >> i hope that -- i didn't know about it. it could happen to anybody. >> she can now face at least 3 1/2 years in prison.
you got to know the gun laws. the search for a missing six-year-old girl in washington state intensifying by the hour. this as we just learned that police are keeping a close eye on the little girl's father. james wright was once charged with molesting his eight-year-old stepdaughter. that charge was later dropped. police aren't calling him a suspect, but both parents have taken lie detector tests. those results have not been made public at this time. two of their other children have been taken from them. she was last seen on saturday night. she's just six years old. san antonio spurs making history by hiring becky hammond as an assistant coach. she's the second woman to work on an nba coaching staff. but the first full-time employee >> growing up i remember asking my dad, you know, hey, dad, will i ever play in the nba? oh, sweety, no. you'll never be able to play in the nba. but if you're really, really good, maybe you can get a college scholarship. so i'm gog have to call him up
and say dad, you never said coaching. >> she exceeded his dreams. she played in the wnba for 16 years. one man certainly knows how to keep his ducks in a row. >> oh, my god! they follow him. you can see the guy is able to get his flock into the barn without ruffling any feathers. that happened in russia. that is going viral. trainable. >> why couldn't we have taught our kids to do that? all right. >> here. how about this? you can have this. now we get the two straws.
>> maria molina outside where just a moment ago, root beer float day and now she's got science trivia. >> i heard you guys talk being whether it was ice cream or the float, how do you make the float? it's ice cream first and then you pour it in. >> i was right. >> now time for science trivia. we're looking at today's question related to tornadoes. kind of because of the storm coming out on friday. so the question is, the largest tornado outbreak included how many tornadoes? is it a, 111, b, 155. c 211 or c, 355? this was over a couple of days and the largest tornado outbreak in history. >> the biggest number, 355 of course. >> i'm going to say the lowest number. >> i'm saying ice cream first. >> i hear peter saying 355. and you are correct. 355 tornadoes. that's the largest tornado outbreak on record. happened in 2011.
pretty recently in late april. way to go, peter. we want to switch gears now and talk about the weather because we have a lot of activity across the tropics. starting across the eastern pacific ocean, we have two hurricanes and both of these storms are set to continue moving westward and impact hawaii over the next several days. the good news out here is that they are forecast to weaken over the next few days. forecast to impact hawaii, iselle on thursday as a tropical storm and then you have the following storm, hurricane julio, also set to impact hawaii over the weekend. bertha also producing issues along parts of the east coast with rip currents concerns. we do have a number of advisories along coastal areas. right now, maximum sustained winds at 50 miles an hour and moving away from the coast. now back inside. >> thank you very much. 18 minutes before the top of the hour on this wednesday. we showed you how children react when they find a gun in their
play area. the question is, does this happen when you send your child over to their friend's house? how to have a crucial conversation with your neighbors about their guns this hour. and hackers have a new way of breaking into your computer using your mouse and you'll never even notice. curt the cyber guy is here with steve next to explain what this is all about as we drink our root beers
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the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! computer hackers now have a new way to get into your computer. you won't know it at the time and you can't fix it and it's tied to something you probably use each and every day. here to explain, curt the cyber guy. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> this is a terrifying story because i have done exactly what you're saying people should not do. >> everybody has. that's the big problem. even if you've never used one of these little things called a usb thumb drive, which i have right here, you still need to be worried about this 'cause plenty of people are using these devices that have control of your data. and what has happened is two researchers from sr labs has come out, both of them have come out with an idea that usbs in particular, thumb drives or accessories that you plug into a computer, are now able to be
controlled by, say, a malicious attack from a hacker. so let me give you an idea of what that means. for example, right now this device plugs into a number of computers and inside of this device is instructional language called firmware. it says i'm a usb drive, i hold this much information and you can talk to me this way. inside that instruction, which is inside the device and not something you can control, you now or someone could put instruction that says, copy all the information off this computer and send it to this other computer. >> see, that's the bad part. here is the thing, a lot of companies give these out as promotional things. people -- i can't tell you how many people have given me one of these little gizmos like this and i actually have used one until this morning. >> we thought that this was actually a safer way to transfer information. >> of course. >> you will say, i won't e-mail it, i'll copy it on this and
hand it to you and here you go. the problem is anyone at any time can now put this on this device and you don't know who put what where and you can't detect it. so the problem is now we've got to look at usbs in a whole new way. and it's a big wake-up call to say stop using freebie handout ones. only use ones which are inside of the packaging that you get from the store. a broader way of thinking of this is think about a usb drive as you would your wallet. you don't loan it to somebody else and if you do loan one of these things to somebody, you simply don't expect it back because all it takes is one transfer and now that could infect your computer that you now plug that into the next time. >> it's so innocent looking. but i seem to remember it was a little device like this that some spies used to blow up the iranian computers with this virus. >> it is that and there is cotton mouth is a widely
discussed protocol from the nsa that came out from edward snowden's leak which this would use the same technology to get there. so bottom line here is big wake-up call and in the months and perhaps even years to come, it will take a long time to implement a new way to secure this kind of technology. so no longer safe. no longer the sure bet. >> don't take a free one. just go to staples and buy a new one. >> exactly. >> thank you very much. great advice. >> that was easy. coming up on "fox & friends," this choke hold is the latest tragedy after a suspect resisted arrest. is that a growing trend? are the cops not respected anymore? our next guests say yes and know why. and on this day in 1955, "rock around the clock" was the number one song. ♪
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>> activists around the country are lashing out at the new york city police department. they claim police are too brutal, citing the choke hold death of a staten island man. critics say the streets are much
less safe under this new mayor here in new york city, bill de blasio. he's got these plans of course to stop or at least scale back stop and frisk. joining us right now is long-time new york city police department detective, mr. bo deedle. good morning. >> good morning. >> you were on the street for a very long time. you talk to cops all the time. from what we've heard and what we've seen under this mayor where he says the cops have been too rough, we're going to stop the stop and frisk business, it seems like the guys on the street are demoralized. >> i talk to cops every day. the cops are so disgusted with what's going on, they don't want to get involved. they don't want to do anything. what we saw on the videotape of what happened and the incident at staten island, dozens of times i use the same kind of head lock to bring someone down. you got a man who is 6' 3, 350 pounds, you got cops 5' 7, 5' 8, you bring them down in a head lock. it's not meaning that you're trying to choke him.
on the other side of the coin is when they use the word homicide, homicide is used by the hands of another. you commit a homicide even when you give a lethal injection. that's homicide that's on the medical record. people now are getting this thing that -- i want to see an autopsy report where there is a crushed wind pipe. i want to see that because the head lock that's used, i've used dozens of times and it's used all the time to bring someone down. and if you watch that video, it wasn't a consistent compression on the guy's neck. and this is kind of gets me upset that these cops are being singled out. then when you get a mayor that has a great police commissioner like bratten sit there and take the abuse of al sharpton, i am disgusted. every cop is disgusted. i'm going to hire an independent medical examiner to look at that autopsy report. someone's got to step up with this and protect this commissioner and these cops that are out there who are servicing this city. bad enough they took the stop and frisk away, which is ridiculous, which we can use it
in a courteous manner and i've talked to them before and i'vo e police department, including my ex-partner there, ben tucker, about ways of utilizing stop and frisk. >> listen, something has to be done. things seem to be going out of control. >> i'm a little angry, i'm sorry. >> you're not the only one. coming up, our gun series continues. do you know whether or not your kids are safe when they go to a neighbor's house regarding the neighbor's guns?wh that conversation coming up next creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america.
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♪ hey, everybody. hope you're doing well. today is wednesday, the 6th of august, 2014. i'm anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. remember when the president declared the war in afghanistan over? >> the bottom line is it's time to turn the page on more than a decade in which so much of our foreign policy was focused on the wars in afghanistan and iraq. >> it's not over. the terrorists heard him and attacked again. this time killing a top general. what does this say about our president's foreign policy? mean while, an incredible show of team work as a group of strangers pulled together to help a guy stuck between a train and the platform. look at that! how did it turn out?
stick around. our gun series continues. do you know if your kids are going to a house with a gun? do the parents keep it locked up? how to have that conversation this hour, conversation well had because mornings are better with friends. >> you're watching "fox & friends." that's a great way to begin your day. >> thank you very much. can you imagine you're down on a subway platform and somebody says let's push over the train a little bit. how many people would sign up for that? >> their adrenaline must have been pumping. >> you'll find out more about that. but we have breaking news. >> while you were sleeping, the results came in from practice i marries in four states. >> one of the states, kansas, where the incumbent, senator pat roberts, fended off a tea party challenger. >> joining us from washington with all the late-breaking details is peter doocy. peter? >> reporter: the tea party tried to replace three-term republican senator pat roberts in kansas, but their candidate, dr. milton wolf, came up short.
the split was close enough, 48 to 41, that roberts used his victory speech to plead with the party to come together so they have a better chance to win in november. >> unity must happen if we are to keep kansas red. it must happen if we are going to defeat the obama agenda and send harry reid packing! >> reporter: sun flower state governor sam brownback won as well with 63% of the vote to primary challenger jennifer nguyen 37%. the senator roberts victory is the latest successes. his colleagues in mississippi, kentucky, south carolina and texas have also all held on as well. a different story for republicans in the house, though. first it was eric cantor who fell, then ralph hall. now tea party-backed carey
bentafolio defeated by a michigan businessman. elsewhere in michigan, a race to replace john dingell, retiring after the longest congressional career ever has been won by his wife, debbie. now in november, she'll have a chance to take the seat her husband had for 50 years. >> peter doocy live with the results from washington, d.c i heard on "special report" last night, the republican running against senator roberts is a first or second cousin of barak obama. >> amazing. meantime, three minutes after the top of the hour, we turn to heather nauert who has got some terrifying news. >> yeah. for some passengers on board, but we've got good news as well. terrifying moments for united airlines flight packed with 200 passengers. a fire breaks out on board the flight. look at this picture here, taken by a passenger. once it finally reached the
ground, inside the plane, you see the firefighters on board that plane. this flight was headed from newark, new jersey to brussels when the pilot was forced to make an emergency landing in canada. fortunately, no one was hurt. no word yet what caused that fire on the jet. luckily everyone is okay. today closing arguments begin in the porch shooting trial. it goes before the jury later today. theodore waver spent two days on the stand trying to convince a jury he shot an unarmed teen-ager in self-defense when she showed up on his front porch drunk and screaming. >> i didn't want to be a victim. i opened the door all the way as much as i could. then as soon as i did that, this person came up from the side of my house so fast. i raised the gun and shot this poor girl. >> some are comparing the case to the trayvon martin case.
remember that one? it was a teen-ager who was shot and killed in florida back in 2012 by george zimmerman. fearing the threat of ebola, british airways now suspending all flights to liberia and sierra leone for one month. airports are becoming the first line of defense against the ebola virus by setting up medical screenings. here in the united states, the second infected american is now undergoing an experimental treatment in atlanta. both nurse nancy writebol and dr. brantley are said to be improving. then you got to look at this video. it's incredible. a car with a woman and her husband trapped inside it, no match for mother nature. but rest easy because mother nature is no match for some good samaritans who also happen to be u.s. airmen. take a look at this. this all unfolding about
30 miles north of las vegas. members of the air force who happened to be nearby ran into the water to pull the 80-year-old woman out of her car. her husband was just rescued moments before. one of those airmen was then nearly swept away himself and he had to be rescued. seconds later, their car was carried off. a lot of flash flood not guilty that area recently. a lot of rain. so a big problem. but everybody is okay. >> if it was just the car, people might let it go. but if there is somebody inside -- >> two people inside, two elderly inside. >> thank you very much. we had terrible news yesterday. a two-star general, harold green, was murdered at the u.s. military -- rather the military academy for afghanistan training afghannies to take over their own security. the taliban has already claimed responsibility for the attack, which prompted ed henry yesterday to ask white house press secretary josh earnest, okay, it's the taliban.
they're claiming they killed this guy. how can we say we're making progress over there? here is what josh earnest and ed henry had to say. >> how can you say progress when an american general was killed today? >> the progress that i cited is the progress that was made. hard won progress that was made by our men and women in uniform who have been serving for more than 12 years. and there is no doubt that what previously was a base of operations for core al-qaeda no longer exists. >> this is a huge touchdown for the taliban. >> yeah. and this insider attack is something that we saw a surge in in 2011 and 2012. pete hegseth from concerned veterans for americans was there at that time and is familiar with this area and he says that this is not spontaneous timing, that this possibly is part of a sleeper cell of the taliban. this is their propaganda of trying to say yes, you may be
announcing a withdrawal and winding down the war, but we are chasing you out. pete hegseth also says that if we say the war is over, that doesn't mean the war is over for our enemy, still think it's raging. listen. >> the troops have felt the fact that it has been about withdrawal more than success from the very beginning. that's what you're seeing in afghanistan right now. the taliban is exploiting that perception to make it look like the americans are on the way out and they're the future. taliban hasn't turned the page. al-qaeda, isis, are not turning the page. they're redoubling their efforts because they've identified that we're retreating, that we don't care. we're not invested in the outcome. so you've got islamists on the march, the taliban really controlling the country side. >> and the taliban redoubles its efforts in afghanistan, resulting in the death of general green who is last in the long line of those who serve in the military service back to the civil war. a new poll is showing that the president is sinking deeper than ever before. the question that was asked was
in general, do you approve or disapprove or not sure of the job barak obama is doing as president? and 54% of the american people disapprove. 40% approve. and 6% are not sure. >> that's a new low for the president. then this is the one that's really going to catch your eye in this "wall street journal" poll. do you think things in this nation are generally headed in the right direction or the wrong track? 71% of you say we are headed on the wrong track. only 22%, one in five, think we are headed in the right direction. >> and this terrible tragedy yesterday. let us know what you think. also this morning, this is happening, sergeant beau bergdahl, the guy who was swapped for five terrorists, he's formally going to be questioned on desertion charges. his lawyer saying he will be as cooperative as possible. this is a new image of him preparing for his questioning. he appears to look pretty good.
he's gained some weight there. >> yeah. remember right now he's got a desk job down in san antonio. the big question is, keep in mind, we've had his platoon mates on this program. they all say he was a deserter. he clearly -- he left a note. he said, i've had it. here, i'm leaving. so what's going to happen to him? fox news legal analyst kimberly guilfoyle was on with bill o'reilly last night and she sees this scenario playing out. >> i don't see any incentive for sergeant bergdahl to cooperate, participate. i expect we're going to see more of kind of the lois lerner, take the fifth, not give the information because he is the worst witness against himself. if he doesn't say anything, he remains on active duty in good standing, able to get a pension and continue to serve in -- >> if he's not convicted. >> if he's not convicted. >> i have a different viewpoint on this. you've got a lawyer who i believe is going to attempt to cop a plea today and tomorrow,
asserting that bowe bergdahl was somewhere between confused and mentally ill when he stepped off that base. his lawyer was someone who has spoken up in the past on behalf of enemy combatants at guantanamo bay. so he's going to get a defense and i believe they will come up with a story to ex cull pate him. his lawyer has always said, he's been in jail with the taliban already for five years and that's an amazing counterpoint that we're talk being this story today on the day that we are mourning the death of general green, perhaps killed at the hands of the taliban, the same leaders that we released to qatar some months ago. >> that is such an excellent point. peter, the white house, because they did do this controversial swap and released all these bad guy, the white house would love to see this go away, sweep it under the carpet. so could they pressure the pentagon or these attorneys or
whoever decides let's just get rid of this? >> you're not going to see formal e-mails to that effect. but i believe that the president's beliefs on this particular issue will inform the outcome as to what happens going forward. remember, there was already a determination that he had walked off that base without permission, that he was awol. now they'll be looking at deserter status or not and whether to bring charges. no charges have been brought yet. >> yeah, you can imagine the president worried about his legacy on this one if one of those five returns and does something terrible and kills innocent americans again as some of them have vowed to do. 12 minutes after the top of the hour. we showed you hidden camera footage of how kids react when they find a firearm. >> how do you know when they're in the presence of one? do you even know if your neighbor or your child's play date has one? well, do you keep them locked up and do they keep them locked up? >> this is the latest in our series on children and guns and heather nauert is here with more. >> good morning. we're looking at this all week
and it's a major, major topic. it's our constitutional right to own a gun, but with that comes a major responsibility, especially when there are children in the home. but what do you do when your child goes o another family's home? do you ever even think o ask them if they own a gun? it's obviously a tough question to ask. but i recently met a mom who regrets not posing that question. this is something that every parent should see. >> said to me, i don't know how to tell you this and i said what? and he said, nicholas was shot. and i said, what are you talking about? how? when? where? >> december 22, 2010, 12-year-old nicholas, a 7th grader, who had a flair for art and performing was accidentally shot while spending the night at a friend's house. >> we were told that they went downstairs to the basement where
nicholas' friend showed him old 40-year-old bullets and his friend asked him if he's ever seen a real gun before. he went to his parents' bedroom and got the gun out of like a sock drawer, thinking that the gun was unloaded, he pointed at nicholas and pulled the trigger. this is the last heartbeat you're going to hear your child. >> did you know that the parents were gun owners? >> i never thought of it. >> you never thought about that before? had you known, would you have felt differently about having your son play at his house? >> absolutely. >> how do you ask that family if they own a weapon and if it's properly secured? >> you just ask.
>> so that's it. just as she said, you just ask. and though it can be an awkward conversation, it's one that's practical and necessary. >> for 75 to 80% of families with guns in the home, first and second graders know where that gun is kept. so it really is unrealistic to think that the kids don't know what's going on. because of that awareness, experts say lay the groundwork with your kids early and often. >> you need to start the conversation early, from kindergarten on and it needs to be the rules. >> when approaching parents keeping it conversational works best. >> there needs to be no emotion about it. it's just one of the questions, do you have allergies? do you have a pet? do you have a swimming pool? do you have a gun? >> if a family takes offense, offer to move the play date. studies have shown people with guns aren't offended by asking the question. in fact, it's almost offered a lot of times. >> it's a matter of you feeling safe. the reality is it could take just once for something to happen to your child. you need to make that decision that's going to keep your child
safe. >> such a bright light. >> it is really, really important to know if the people where you're sending your child for a play date are gun owners and how they're stored. we're not trying to take, you know, the guns away from gun owners. there is nothing wrong with asking so you could make an educated choice. >> nicholas was such a beautiful little boy. the couple are now working to pass what's called nicholas' bill in new york state. it would require the safe storage of guns with a locking device to prevent children from getting their hands on them and using them. the bill is now before the new york senate. there is that other angle to consider, something that gun rights advocates talk about a lot, trigger locks, and whether or not they threaten homeowners' security and that is an angle that we're going to look at tomorrow because a lot of people
express concern that if you have a trigger lock on your gun or if you have it stored in a safe, that it would take too long to respond to a home intruder. we'll look at just how long that might take tomorrow. >> great advice that it should be one of those questions, do you have allergies? do you have a pet? do you have a pool? do you have a gun? put it out there, just conversationally. >> it's something that -- i'm a parent of two young children. we often send our kids on play dates. >> have you ever asked that? >> i have never asked. but it's such a good question because you want your kids to be safe and we know how curious kids are. >> sure. most gun owners are absolutely responsible and my friends who have guns in their homes, they have the gun safes. they've got the vaults. it's all locked up. it doesn't hurt to ask. >> we're not saying don't own guns, but you have to be responsible about it and then ask questions. >> i know it's a thoughtful, thoughtful report that you've done. my own experience in my own family, a lot of police officers and that was always the concern that my uncles had when people were coming over for a party. i remember this as an older teen-ager, they were so vigilant to make sure their off-duty
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22 minutes after the top of the hour. brand-new video into "fox & friends." listen to the moment that two double decker tour buses crashed right here in the heart of times square.
you can see right there, people running and the traffic light toppled onto the crowd action screen left. and police just arrested one of the bus drivers. wnyw reporter is in times square with the very latest. we understand that the guy who was driving this bus shouldn't have been driving at all. >> reporter: that's exactly what police told me this morning. good morning, steve and everyone. they say this guy should have taken the day off. he should have not been behind the wheel of the car. new york police charged him with driving while ability impaired. they say he had some type of drug in his system. they tell me it's not narcotics. but perhaps a prescription medication or some type of over-the-counter medication. is it a sleep aid? is it something else that could have really impaired his ability? we don't know. we do know from talking to some of the people who work for grayline bus that he was working the night shift coming in at noon and expected to work through the night. if you come here to times square today, you'll see that there is little remnants of the accident that occurred at 3:30 yesterday
afternoon. it happened on the corner of 47th and 7th. the light pole is back up, but boy, it came down with a vengeance yesterday. look at this earth cam video. you can see as those buses collide, people start to run. they hear the explosion of the buses hitting and then they start to scatter as they see the light pole come down, spraying debris. there were a ton of tourists. 14 people were hurt. three seriously, including apparently one tour operator that was on one of the other buses. her head got wedged underneath the dashboard. steve, we're waiting to hear more from nypd about this man. if there is any sort of criminal past and also when he'll be in court today. that's the latest from times square this morning. i'll send things back to you in the studio. >> live in times square, thank you very much. anna, over to you and peter. >> amazing story. navy veteran involved in a horrific accident that cost him the use of his hand, he sawed
off four of his fingers, three had to be amputated. only one was able to be saved. >> this morning not only does howard have a smile on his face, he's got a solid grip to boot. that's because he created his own prosthetic hand after a trip to home depot. good morning, howard. >> good morning. >> you say you've gotten your self-esteem back because of this $20 that you spent at the home depot. how does it work? >> well, when i cut my fingers off, i had to go to home depot and i met a friend named casey barrett and he's the one that designed these -- my hand for me and we just needed to get a glove and some string, some fishing line, some glue and that's how we put our firsthand together. >> what can you do with the hand, howard? show us that hand and what can
you do with that incredible hand that you made on a 3d machine? wow. that is tremendous. >> i can pick up some water bottles now, which i couldn't do before without my fingers. i can even play some cards with my friends now 'cause i can hold the cards. >> i can see the magic hyped your eyes. you seem really happy with all this. obviously you're able to keep costs down at 20 bucks, making these prosthetic potentially accessible to a lot more people. are you working to get this thing on the market? >> no, we're not working to get it on the market. what we want to do is the wreck f foundation has joined me and we want to give it away. we want to give it away to veterans who have lost their hands and their fingers and
anybody else that needs help 'cause prosthetics are very expensive. >> this is an incredible thing. one of the things that you can rebuild your own hand, what a feeling of power. you should be so proud of yourself. it gives hope to a lot of other americans. we're so happy to have you on this morning. >> thank you. and it wasn't me that built it. like i said, a friend of mine came to me after i chopped my fingers off and he's the engineer of our group and he's the one that printed all these fingers for me. >> you guys certainly make a good team with the help of a 3d printer. >> thanks for your service, too. >> thank you. thank you very much. 27 minutes after the hour. coming up, it's the most incredible video you will see all day. hundreds of people, complete strangers, pull together to help save a man stuck in the tracks. details next. then she's used to flying f
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time for your shot of the morning. the most incredible video you're going to see all day. a transit rider in australia gets stuck when his leg slips between the train and the platform. watch the gap, they tell you. he didn't apparently. hundreds of people, complete strangers, all pulled together to help. they all pushed on the word. everybody got off the train and
pushing to shift the weight off onto the one side. it was enough to free the guy's leg. the man seemingly dazed but unhurt, was able to walk away. ladies and gentlemen, that is team work from perth, australia. >> it's a wonder that doesn't happen more often. that gap is about this big and people are on their cell phone. >> it does happen. major subways in the united states, they have air bags that emergency service brings and they inflate it and it will separate the car from the platform. usually the outcome is a lot worse, amputations, death and like that. so that's wonderful, people jump in to help. >> a wife and mother missing for weeks found dead. authorities discovered her body yesterday near her suv in a remote wooded area 25 miles from her home. so what happened to jennifer houston? ainsley earhart is here with details. incredibly sad story. >> we've been following this for
weeks. it is sad this morning to report that she is no longer with us. but the cause of death still not released yet. detectives are still processing on the scene. police say it does not look like there was a crash or anyone else involved. >> we do not suspect foul play at this time. there is nothing to suggest that the public should be alarmed. >> the person who owns the land spotted jennifer houston's suv on his private property about an eighth of a mile from his house and told his wife about seeing that lexus on their land. >> i said, what color is it? he said green. i said, dark green? and i knew right then. >> police found the 38-year-old's body 50 feet away from that suv there. she was wearing the same clothes that she had on when she vanished on july 24. the mother of two disappeared that day while she was running errands. she took out $100 from the bank. she filled up her car with gasoline and bought some snacks and then bought some sleeping
pills at a local drugstore. minutes later, her cell phone was turned off and police say the battery was not dead. her father and her husband joined us on "fox & friends" on monday speaking out about that desperate search and they were clearly exhausted. >> we're just grasping at straws. any time we hear about a sighting or something, we're all over it. once or twice we've jumped in the car and ran somewhere we thought a vehicle was seen at. >> the family has asked for privacy in order to grieve and to process their loss. jennifer leaves behind her husband and their two little boys, age six and two. back to you guys. >> tragic end to that story. thanks for the update. >> what a terrible story. i wond for they found a note. don't know. >> awful. we turn now to heather nauert who has got the search for somebody else. >> yeah. police in the pacific northwest need your help searching for a missing six-year-old girl. this as we just learned that
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>> that is adorable. 23 minutes before the top of the hour. time for some weather and get this, maria molina, it sounds like a lot of people who are going to hawaii right now for their vacation picked a bad week to go. >> yeah. i can't really feel -- i still feel jealous. i would still like to be in hawaii, even if there are storms headed that way. i do have some good news and that is that the storms are forecast to weaken. they are hurricanes, headed westward. and one of them could potentially move north of the islands. so that would be good news. we would be spared from some of the impact from these storms. we do have two storm systems. over the next several days, they are going to continue to move westward and iselle will be the first storm to potentially impact the hawaiian islands. that's coming up as we head into thursday and then you have julio. this one has maximum sustained winds -- iselle at 90 miles an hour. julio has been a little weaker,
but forecast to continue to intensify and then eventually weaken before hitting the island, that's coming up over the weekend. we also have bertha, that storm moving away from parts of the east coast. rip current concerns are continuing along coastal areas of the northeast. of course, that's a big issue for anyone that's headed out towards the beaches there. there you have tropical storm bertha, max winds at 50 miles an hour. let's head back inside. >> thank you very much. meanwhile, do you recognize her? we rely on her reporting skills and military analysis as well. but leah gabriel hasn't stopped flying since her days as a pilot of an f-18 in the u.s. navy. but when she came to new york city and joined us here at fox, she left her plane in california and i guess, were you running up a bill at the airport? you had to move it? >> i wanted it here so i could fly it and i set out on this journey after july 4th weekend. so i decided to call my trip freedom tour. and i knew i would offer some
incredible views that you don't normally get to see and i wanted to share those. take a look at some of the sights that you don't get to see when you fly across country in an airliner at 40,000 feet. this is what i used to fly for the u.s. navy. f-18, two engines, top speed, 1200 miles per hour at a price tag of about $30 million. now that i'm no longer landing on aircraft carriers and the navy is no longer buying my fuel, this is what i fly. a cessna 172. one engine, four seats, top speed, about 120 miles per hour. cost? about what most americans spend o a new car. >> put it somewhere where you can have access to it. >> reporter: a fellow veteran began fixing up my plane when i left san diego to join fox news. now it's time to fly her to my new home in new york, a coast to coast adventure.
to me, flying is the ultimate freedom, to go where i want, when i want, one of the greatest gifts of our land of the free. my copilot is photo journalist for the trip, fox news anchor jon scott. >> how does it feel to be crossing this air space at 110 knots? >> i feel like i'm in a helicopter. i did a lot of flying here. especially flight training. this is bomb ranges where i dropped practice bombs. >> we have a little diversion. >> we have a little bit of a diversion. >> thunderstorms offer their own kind of beauty. awesome power, enough to take down even an f-18. so we give them plenty of room. our first stop, an airport on the edge of one of america's greatest natural wonders, the grand canyon. we're treated to a bird's eye
view. getting ready to take off, day two of this adventure. just a few minutes after takeoff, we're flying over the surface of mars. at least that's how the painted desert appears from 2,000 feet above it. >> the chart here, the storm over there to the right. >> with more thunderstorms ahead, we decide to land earlier than intended. gallop, new mexico, to fill our tank and check the weather. we're back on the road, we're following interstate 40. this will take us into albuquerque, new mexico. to my left are the sandia mountsens. once we clear this mountain range, we can start heading northeast to new york city. as you can see, the train changed quite a bit. like this flat land. that is to amarillo. sunset not guilty the next ten minutes.
it's a little hazy. we won't see the gorgeous texas sunset. we'll be up bright and early tomorrow morning and see the sun rise here in texas. one of the greatest parts of the trip were some of the wonderful people that we met along the way, including some people who watch fox news every day. tomorrow you'll get to meet some of them and also get to see what it looks like to fly right into new york city, right over the statue of liberty at night and at eye level from the sky scrapers. >> you had a pretty good camera guy. >> i had a great camera guy/copilot, jon scott. hopefully we'll be able to get him in here tomorrow morning so he can talk a little bit about the experience. >> breath taking stuff. great stuff. >> thank you very much. >> knocking our socks off. coming up, hysteria about ebola. is it warranted? are americans in danger because we're treating victims? dr. mark siegle is here live from jfk to answer viewer questions (vo) get ready!
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this is a fox news alert. that's video of the moment hamas fires rockets near a hotel in a gaza residential district and now we're nearly 20 hours into a 72-hour cease fire in gaza.
john huddy is live in jerusalem with the very latest. john? >> reporter: yeah, when i was in gaza, we saw a couple of, not a couple, we saw a lot of rocket launches and also missile strikes very close to our location, by the way. as you mentioned, the cease fire continues. over 20 hours into it now and the cease fire is holding at this point. the question is what's going to happen after the 72-hour mark is up? that said, take a look. supplies started arriving, various countries donating these supplies, arriving into tel aviv yesterday and today as well as they're now flowing into gaza. much needed supplies that have been in short supply and have run out over the course of the now more than four weeks or the four weeks of fighting. we're talking about food, water, various items like that, and people were lining up pretty much all day trying to get those items, trying to get those basic essentials.
that said, troops are returning home as well as we saw yesterday. on the border after being pulled out of gaza, started going back to their families, girlfriends, wives. this as we're waiting for more information about the cease fire, the egyptian-brokered cease fire agreement that's been going on. israeli delegation there is, palestinian, hamas, islamist jihad as well. so again, the cease fire is holding, but we're waiting to see what happens after that 72-hour mark. >> john huddy live in israel, thank you. meanwhile, coming up on this wednesday, is the hysteria about ebola warranted? are americans in danger because we are treating victims here in the u.s.? dr. mark siegle is here live from jfk airport where they've got a quarantine area to answer viewer questions. >> first we're going to check in with bill hemmer for a look at what's coming up at the top of the hour. >> polling numbers show the danger many americans see about their own future. numbers are stunning. herman cain analyzes the
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good morning. a fox news alet. major airline british airways canceling flights to africa because of ebola. in is raise new concerns. >> joining us live from jfk airport where they have a quarantine area to answer viewer questions, fox news medical a team, dr. mark siegle. good morning to you again. >> let's go to the first one. roxanne is asking this, why are they allowing anyone to fly or travel into or out of those countries right now where that is raging? >> peter, that's very good question. i spoke to a passenger coming from one of those countries who was very frightened. i think that the answer to that is that the numbers are so low that the chances of somebody coming in with ebola with only 1500 odd cases in west africa, extremely low. but really there is a lot of fear and they put out any advisory saying anyone with flu-like symptoms, how to
isolate them in the hospital. it's a mixed message. great britain is looking at it differently. >> and we have another tweet from one of many patriots saying this: for those with flu-like symptoms, how would they know if they had come in contact with ebola? >> look, the chances are really, really, really slim. i mean, ebola is not floating around west africa. if you have to be literally taking care of a patient, it's not an airborne virus. you would have to be in touch with the secretions of this virus. so i think the fear is really getting rampant here where people thinking i'm in west africa, i got the flu. but you know what? the chances are extremely low. to answer the question directly, though, unfortunately, ebola initially just has regular fatigue, fever, and muscle aches. so it can look like any other flu over the first few days. >> all right. great advice. dr. siegle, thank you very much and thank you for joining us this morning from jfk airport. >> thanks. it's tense here. >> i would imagine. tense all over the place.
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president bill clinton. >> i hate to break this to you stephen, but i've met him, too. >> good morning. it's wednesday, august 6. >> good stuff. she did great. she looked great. she was funny. she should take him on in the stump if she runs. >> former communications director for president george bsh nicolle wallace. contributor john heilemann, political writer for "the new york times," nicholas poff sorry. i've said it a zillion times. also in washington, white house correspondent for the "wall street journal" carol lee. i want to thank all of you to join us this morning. a lot to talk about. of course, the news out of afghanistan, just devastating for the military and it continues. this is the front page of the
"wall street journal." it's the lead there. also the lead story in "the washington post." it's the lead story in the "new york post." everybody talking about that. we've got that to cover and an awful lot more this morning. but this morning let's start with the pentagon investigating that attack in the military base northwest of kabul that left a two star army major general dead. that's the highest ranking american killed in the iraq or afghanistan wars. in fact, you'd have to go back to 1970 in vietnam to have another officer with that high of a rank killed. 55-year-old major general harold green was the second highest american serving in afghanistan. he saw the transition efforts to hand over to afghan troops. other coalition officers were at camp tuesday when an afghan soldier opened fire, seriously injuring several before being killed by return fire.
the 15 wounded they included eight americans, two british, one german and four afghans. these insider attacks as we all know have been largely on the decline as international presence has started to wind down. in 2012 is when it was the worst here. the two attacks so far this year. to talk about it more let's bring in nbc news military analyst, retired general barry mccaffrey. first i have to ask you what are you thoughts about the tragedy in afghanistan? >> a huge loss, very talented officer, phd in political science, one of our real technical experts. remember this comes on top of 22,000 plus killed and wounded in afghanistan. there's been a pretty bloody conflict. i think the lack of transparency in reporting these insider attacks is something we ought to
be concerned about. we're only talking about the ones that result in u.s. killed by the insider attacks. there are many more than this actually occurring. a huge chasm of trust opening up between the afghan security forces and the nato forces. >> so tell us what we're not hearing. why are these attacks being swept under the table? >> i think a lot of it, of course, is just an understandable feeling and a part of the isap nato headquarters. they don't want to accentuate the growing insecurity throughout the country. the reason i make a point of this, joe, looking forward, 10,000 troops spread out in small packets across the country. our combat forces zero out, very vulnerable, not just killed and wounded but abduction. it's a policy process we've got to think really carefully about. >> what's the best way forward?
>> at the end of the day afghanistan is going to make it based on afghan people, political leadership, police and army. a robust u.s. embassy with a lot of u.s. marines around it, maybe holding open the airfield at bagram is what we should be doing and not thinking about an enduring presence throughout the country. this is an ethnic civil war that we're unlikely to change substantially with a 10,000 person footprint. >> general, we were talking about the logistics of how this would work. we are working hand in hand, literally that's how our soldiers are handling this. how would it work? would you envision our troops staying in a secure facility or embassy and troops will come in for technical training or for strategic training, how would the interactions work under what you envision sf. >> i'm less clear on how it
would work than the valabilities of leaving packets of troops all over afghanistan. right now we have intelligence officers throughout the country. they do pretty well. remember they're backed up by not just combat forces of the u.s. army, but also medevac helicopter support, all that's going to disappear as we drop to a very small footprint. again, i think we have to rethink that policy. we ought to find out how many of these inviteder attacks are occurring that don't result in deaths. we've got a giant lack of trust going on at the lowest level between afghan police and army and nato forces. >> general, before we go, i need to ask you about this. obviously afghanistan on the front pages of all the newspapers today. over the past several weeks we've been seeing on the front pages of all the newspapers israel and gaza. before that syria would bump in
and out. it seems to me, though, when i talk to military men and women, foreign policy analysts, they say the most dangerous thing happening on the globe right now is not even in the ukraine, it's in iraq, it's in syria, it's i.s.i.s. you've been there. you fought there. do you agree right now that what's happening with i.s.i.s. is something americans should be paying closer attention to? >> well, it's just another indication of an enormous shift. these post world war i boundaries in the middle east didn't make any sense on religious and ethnic grounds. there's going to be a readjustment. it's going to be bloody, take ten years to sort it out. at the end of the day we're more likely to see kurds and shia, if they don't trust each other, historically they're well argued that they shouldn't. inside iraq, for god's sake, when sunnis had control of the
country, they slaughtered hundreds of thousands. >> general barry mccalf free, thank you so much. we greatly appreciate you coming in. >> thank you. >> you see the polls yesterday? >> almost makes you feel bad for the president. >> it makes me feel bad for everybody. >> it's bad everywhere. >> the president at his lowest approval rating ever. congress at its lowest approval rating ever. the republicans are -- hey, this is great for republicans, because the president is at his lowest ever. 75% of americans think we're going in the wrong direction. hey, republicans 80 seals, 90 seats, maybe 1,000 seats. hold on a second, r' approval rating is at 19%. democrats are at 32. not much better. holy cow. this is like the friends and family plan. friends am family report what's
happening in congress. republicans at 19%. the president horrible at 40. the president ain't running for re-election again. republicans still sitting at 19%. you've had bill kristol. you've had moderate becomes, me, you, a lot of people saying for two years now it is not enough to be against barack obama. you've got to do more than investigate. you've got to do more than spit on the ground and grumble and scratch yourself when you go back to your district and grunt and say i'm against barack obama. >> shut down the government. >> you've got to do something. they're at 19%. republicans, you can be pissed off at me if you want to. i don't know. it's the first republican elected in my district since 1873, won four landslides, won by 70%, 80%, i don't know, maybe i know something about this. i know you don't like when i talk about when i was in
congress. >> we love it. i love it. >> that's why you're on the set right now! that's the only reason. >> most of america can listen to you talk about that, the mood of the country would lift. >> oceans would part. >> sunshine and rainbows for everybody. >> let me tell you, at this point right now people would look back to this time as when the oceans receded, the earth began to heal itself. what else is he going to do for us? >> what else happened? the oceans would part, i think the big greek columns would be erected. >> the playing of frogs in washington according to those polls. >> but now the oceans is apparently not receding, locusts are coming from the heavens and eating the flesh of people in washington, d.c. look at the numbers, barack obama's approval rating 40%. a lot of people not happy about that.
54% disapprove. not sure, 6%. we have a couple more years of this going. you keep going through the polls. the other polls, nick, republicans sitting at 19%, democrats at 32%. republicans win the generic ballot, 42-43%. >> 44.3. >> this number is troubling, 36 approval on foreign policy, 60% disapprove. it shows when the world is a mess, as madeleine albright said, people hold the president responsible. >> you go down the approval/disapproval on foreign policy -- americans say we don't care what's going on in foreign policy, but boy when it's going bad they turn on the president. >> a lot is happening. there's a sense of the world is spinning out of control and the average person isn't quite sure why and they blame the president. >> i think the average person doesn't think the president
understands why. the public has lived through chaotic times. the public doesn't feel like the president understands. >> you look as the world is spinning out of control. i had a good friend say last night to me. things are crazy, what's happening? i'm scared. this was a liberal democrat. you look at the approval ratings we just flashed up, 36% approve of the foreign policy handling, 60% approve. >> those are george w. bush numbers. >> yes. the difference being a lot of the disapproval around bush's foreign policy. be had hundreds of thousands of troops deployed. people. >> reporter: very anxious and very angry. >> what was the low of your approval rate sglg that was george w. bush minus 13 percentage points towards the end. about this time i think he was sitting about the same as barack obama. he started plummeting soon after that. >> the interesting thing about this is the point you just made,
in terms of practical consequences, no doubt the country is depressed and having a bad summer. that 43 to 44 congressional balance, it's not a wider spread, you've got the cross-tabs of this poll saying not a wave election. this doesn't look like 2006, doesn't look like 2010. voters are not hugely motivated in looking toward the midterms. the people who thought this was going to be another big wave election seem on the basis of this poll to have been wrong. >> i don't know where the wave comes from. >> no galvanizing issue right now. >> or candidates. there's also not a group of candidates running on change or running on a new direction or running on a cohesive or understandable foreign policy. the republican party is pretty fractured. >> you don't have what you had in 2010 where you had a new force, new energy, the tea party movement comes in and all get swept in, the establishment
candidates winning last night. pat roberts, another establishment candidate. >> our insurgencies abroad are bad for barack obama. insurgencies at home for the gop are bad for the gop. there isn't a central organizing thing for anybody. moreover, when you look at this poll, at first i thought, this is like we're mad at everybody. it's two different houses casts potses on other houses. half of the people say i want to elect a congress that doesn't block the president. two different countries here and they're divided. >> carol lee, you cover the white house. what are they going to do over the next two years to turn this ar sflound we seem, do we not, when you're in there day in and day out, we seem to be stuck in a holding pattern? >> that's absolutely right. if you look at -- part of the
problem, i think, if you look at what the president is saying, what his message is publicly, there's a total disconnect between clearly what the american public feels and what he is saying is going on in the economy. on friday he came out and said things are getting better. clearly people don't feel that way. the president was campaigning, raising money in california a few weeks ago and he was saying people feel better than they did five years ago. some of the folks who were interviewed who participated in this poll explicitly said they don't feel better than they did five years ago. so i think what the white house has to contend with is how you match the president's rhetoric and how he's approaching the public on this issue with what you're seeing in this poll which is that people are not feeling good about the future. the 79% of people who think their kid's future is not going to be better than their own, that's a huge number. >> that is a massive number.
nicole, things aren't getting better. listen, the economy is getting better. i've got a news flash for everybody. you don't feel it and it certainly -- maybe it's what ronald reagan said, a recession is when your next-door neighbor has lost their job. a depression is when you've lost your job. the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. the divide is sickening and continues to grow. but the situation for the middle class is far better today than it was two years ago, four years ago, five years ago. things are getting better. it doesn't show up in these poll numbers. and i wonder how much of that -- i'm not blaming the president at all. >> i will. he's made it all political, joe. it's all political. >> this is a stylistic thing. the guy, i'll just say it, everybody that knows him, everybody that talks to him,
everybody that works for him says the guy doesn't like his job. he doesn't want to be there. >> he also makes everything political, even the good things. even when he goes out and talks about making community college less expensive. that's something more available to a lot of families than a four-year university, it's wrapped in politics. when he goes out and talks about income inequality or making taxes more fair for families, it's always wrapped in politics. >> don't all politicians do that? >> i don't think so. i think obama has taken it -- >> keep a straight face. >> i think obama has politicized things that previous presidents have not taken to such a political -- i think the trash talking, the den grading of republicans, every policy announcement in a political wrapper is a loser. >> john heilemann, what say you? >> there's a deeper thing going on. no doubt the economy is in a better place than it was three years ago and the unemployment
numbers are better and jobs are being created. in the end we still have flat wages in this country for the last 25 years and great inequality. people still feel that. the question about whether people think the world is going to be better for their kids and grandkids and about whether they see improvement, even if they have a job, they're not keeping up even with minimal inflation. >> 40% of people have someone in their household who has lost their job in the past five years. can you imagine how that echoes through the country? it's a sense of insecurity that is always there. it could be me next. even if you have a job, it doesn't mean your life is getting better. >> carol, you're right. there has to be great frustration for the white house. they see the economic numbers that look more positive than they were two, three years ago. and so does the president pivot back for the 28th time to a new job, hey, i'm going to focus on
jobs now. it has to be extraordinary frustrating. is there any indication that he is going over the next couple years, especially if republicans win the senate, is he more inclined to have to sit down and strike deals with republicans that don't like him anymore than he likes them? >> well, they would tell you that he has been trying to focus on jobs and the economy, he's stuck to that message di des despite some criticism that he should be folk kug cussing on some of the foreign policy issues on the front pages of the newspapers. but i think there is a theory emerging out there that if the senate switches over to the republicans, that the president will be freed in some way and be able to sit down and cut deals with republicans without having nancy pelosi and harry reid pulling him further to the left and that he does want to cut deals and they would be able to get things like some of the trade policies that he's been pushing which drem kratz do not
like or tax reform, comprehensive tax reform. the republicans want that, or even immigration reform. they still hold out hope for that. so there's the silver lining, if there is one, and we're not going to see a wave election this year, the republicans will do well, and there's a good chance that the senate will go. but it seems like, you know, there's a possibility he could make some progress on some economic issues if it flips. >> carol, the worst thing that happened to bill clinton, new democrat bill clinton was he was strapped with some left wing democrats in congress that would stop him from moving to the senate. the second republicans took over in 1994, the guy spent the next six years striking deals and making things happens. who knows? you never know what happens in washington, d.c. and you never know what happens on "morning joe." still ahead on "morning joe," the nation's katrina vanden heuvel and ari fleischer join
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from the taliban emerged yesterday as he prepares to be questioned by an army investigator. the images taken by his lawyer yesterday, the first glimpse of him since returning the the u.s. he'll be meeting with a general to discuss the circumstances around his capture in 2009. he was released after five years in a prisoner swap last may. from "the new york times," a scary scene unfolded yesterday in times square in new york city. there were two double decker tour buses and they collided. 15 people, mostly pedestrians were hurt. what you can see in this earth cam footage. a bus hit a light pole, falling onto a sidewalk full of people. her head lodged before a dashboard. first responders had trouble get together the scene in the heavy traffic and crowds with many arriving on foot. >> you do that very well, by the way. the "wall street journal," 21st century fox has withdrawn the
bid to take over time warner. fox cites an 11% drop in the price. the deal would have united the two largest movie and tv studios in what was once the biggest media merger in a decade. the funny thing is, after they announced the deal, time warner's stock dropped, rupert's stock goes up. guess what? he's in a better position to do the deal now than he was yesterday. >> you know what the lesson of that is? rupert always wins. i'll tell you another guy who always wins, donald trump. in the "philadelphia inquirer" the donald is suing the have his name removed from the two remaining casinos in atlantic city he used to control. the real estate mogul reveals the plaza and taj mahal are deteriorating and tarnishing his brand. he hasn't operated the casinos for several years. one already closed, two set to
close next month and one up for bankruptcy tomorrow. >> a reason we call him abraham lincoln of our time. look at him. he's a born leader. if they're not treating his casinos right down in atlantic city, you got to take care of it. >> that's the whole problem is having casinos in atlantic city left. falling apart, not up to the standards of the donald's other properties. this is a high class problems to have, buildings with your name on it in a city you left a while ago. >> my favorite donald trump moment. he's $9 billion in debt and the banks are going after him. he goes out to a press conference. he's like, i'm going to be fine. can i ask a question, just one question. has anybody in this room been in $9 billion in debt before? okay, fine. you don't know how to handle it. i do. he told the banks, foreclose on
me. you can foreclose on me. >> i tried to have the same conversation with my credit card company last month. didn't work. >> can't pull it off. you're not the abraham lincoln of our time. if you've ever taken a train overseas, you've probably seen the sign that says mind the gap. here is why. got his leg trapped. rescuers rush over. the passengers decide to get involved landing a few hands to push the train off the man just enough to get him free. he escaped unharmed. >> how is his leg? >> his leg was not available for comment. with us, chief white house correspondent mike allen here with the morning playbook. mike, it says rand paul wants to run for president. >> ah. >> does that make you sigh?
>> it makes me tired. >> nicole just -- don't hold back. >> i think rand paul had a very bad week. i think offending the dreamer on the stump. i think he's stitching together. >> mike, i've said it before. i like rand paul, and if like yahoo! -- they want to do whatever they want to development i voted for his father in the primary in 2012. i you know what? i carry the scars. this guy is not going to be president of the united states, and in large part, i think it's because of his former positions, they're going to catch up with him, all the stuff that's gone in the past is going to catch up with him. one of those things, his position on aid to israel in 2011, it's a newly elected senator, he actually talked about cutting foreign aid to the middle east, and here are his
original comments. let's take a listen. >> you want to end all foreign aid as well, right? >> the other day, 71% of the american people agree with me, when we're short of money, when we can't do the things we can't do in our country, we shouldn't be shipping it overseas. >> what about the $3 billion that goes every year to israel. you want to eliminate that as well? >> i think what you have to do, when you send foreign aid, you send quite a bit to israel's enemies. >> it looks like egypt gets almost the same amount. >> really, you have to ask yourself are refunding an arms race on both sides. i also have a lot of sympathy and respect for israel as a democratic nation, as a fountain of peace and democracy within the middle east. but at the same time i don't think funding both sides of an arms race, particularly when we have to borrow the money from china to send it to someone
else, we can't do it anymore. >> never introduced any legislation that targeted israel in any way. spent the last three months trying to target aid to hamas and the palestinian authority. i think to print headlines saying rand paul wants to end aid to israel is just not true and inappropriate and really doesn't represent the truth. i've spent three months trying to end aid to hamas. when you print an article, it's inflammatory and it's also trying to ask you a perception or develop a story line of me that's just frankly not true. >> it's frankly not true except for the fact that it's true. you go back and look at the clip. he says he's going to end all foreign aid. he includes israel in that. and again, mike, i like rand. i like a lot of the positions he stands for. he runs around saying he's going to end all foreign aid to
israel. we have to be grownups on the world stage. who likes foreign aid? none of us like foreign aid. guess what? you have to do it if you're running the free world. >> that's right, joe. you know you're in trouble when you're referring to your own words as inflammatory. that's going to be a problem. >> like paul krugman, when i quoted his words back to him, he's like, come on, these are sleazy tactics they're your own words. rand paul is in the same position. they're his own words. >> we have a piece up this morning, rand versus rand looking on his evolution on a variety of issues, drones, immigration. he was a senate candidate that once talked about having buried electrical fences at the border. of course, it evolved as he got in. his staff is he hasn't changed his position but come to realize what you can get done.
joe, a huge moment coming up for smat tore paul who has had a great spring and summer, doing well in the invisible primary of buzz, message, travel. he's in iowa right now. we learned that at the end of september, early october, he's going to give a speech on the topic that joe, as you know, is his biggest problem, the biggest hurdle to him getting the nomination, foreign policy is isolationist. he's going to give a speech at the national defense university where he's going to argue on the spectrum, be involved everywhere, be involved nowhere. he's smack in the middle with ronald reagan, george h.w. bush -- >> we shall see. sometimes candidates who underpass their past, look at me, i got elected to congress despite the four years i did in a turkish prison. they did a movie about it. wasn't it a great movie? >> what do you think the percentage of likelihood is that before the end of the year we'll see rand paul campaigning in a
yamaka? >> pretty high. >> he was in iowa. i'm not knocking him. i'm just -- you know what? this is what i do. this is what i do. i get paid a lot to be wrong. so i'm sure i'll be proven wrong here. he's a fascinating guy. he's a fascinating candidate, and i think he has absolutely no chance to actually be elected president of the united states. we shall see. carol lee, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> hope you'll come back soon. >> sure. up next, you know what? she didn't seem too excited. she was like sure -- this is the last time. >> you've already burned your bridges with the paul administration. two years before he becomes the 45th president, you've already burned him. >> beat the rush. >> burn him down. >> i'm right on this. i'm right on this case. they'll forgive me. most people forgive me. >> isn't he right on the foreign aid.
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it's not going to be longer than that. this is my show. we'll be here for five hours. the herd is with me, colin cowherd is here. his mom when he was born said he shall be called the herd and he is. colin, thank you for being was. the book "you herd me." i'll say it if nobody else will, is out in paperback next month. also here, mike barnicle. what's going on man? i'm a huge fan of yours. that's awesome. >> you know what, my wife is in florida doing work. i said you're not going to believe what show i'm on this morning. she said don't even do that. i said "morning joe." i don't explain stuff, i show up
on tv. i don't know how it works. you just show up on stuff. >> so your friends, a buddy of mine, paul finebaum, at times the most hated man in the state of alabama. i love him because he says whatever he wants to say. you say whatever you want to say, man. >> paul and i get along. i was on his show yesterday. he's very polarizing. i tell people in the northeast, they love baseball but they don't get college football. guys, just think of fenway park and all the passions. like nine of those down near atlanta. that's what the south lives for. just respect and love their passion. it's the same in liverpool with their soccer teams. america is amazing. depending on the time zone you're in, the passion changes. in the south and paul is at the center of it, they live for that sport. >> listen. it ain't the nfl. we grew up with the nfl bed sheets.
we don't care about sunday. we care about saturday. >> you wake up on a saturday morning in nashville, huntsville, ever boyd has their sports page. they are in their restaurant or bar, it's 7:00 a.m. they're there to that cbs or espn game turns off at 11:30. >> you say this year, it taint sec going to win the national championship, it's going to be acc. you think fsu. >> i think florida state will meet up with oklahoma in a championship. i don't think they're as complete as alabama. >> they don't have to go to baton rouge. >> auburn's schedule is outrageous, the toughest college schedule i've ever seen, especially october on. alabama has the most complete roster. i don't leave them yet at quarterback. i think georgia is really good. if you look at florida state through the acc, i think they'll mow through it. oklahoma will lose one game but find their way to it. out west, i think ucla will escape. the sec deserves in my opinion two teams in this forum.
it's like the electoral college. the reality is based on population ohio is more important than rhode island, california is more important than maine. based on the population in the south and their high school players that go to sec schools, they deserve more votes and more people in the college football play-offs. they should have two a year until somebody proves -- >> what are the reasons i can't watch the nfl anymore? i'll watch occasionally. i'm sorry, the guys are just -- they look roided up man. you've got these guys that weigh 800s, they run four two forties. why is it that baseball does the right thing and police themselves but nobody else does. it's almost like baseball cut themselves off at the knees. they should have dragged the nfl with them and everybody else. >> the george mitchell report when baseball said we're going to get george mitchell and find
out who is using, i said on my radio show, i thought it was an absolute horrible decision. here is our laundry, we'll hang it out. >> nobody else does. >> baseball by far and away now has the best system. people do a more moderate version of testing. the reality is baseball is, once again, what is the national narrative this morning on baseball? there's a user, a seller, anthony bosch. we're not talking about the race. last night yankees tsh tigers. the american league east is wide open and we're talking about anthony bosch. >> shouldn't the nfl do what major league baseball has done? >> you're really -- i can just sense that. >> i want to. it is an unnatural sport. tim miklaszewski who is the pentagon sport. he used to do radio. tom landry was looking at how fast and big everybody is getting, tom landry said this isn't my game anymore, it's too
dangerous. this isn't the game i started with. >> roger goodell has tried to limit shots above the shoulders and has been panned by his own players for it. the nfl totally understands. the concussion issue is the one issue that can bring down the league. you have a powerful company, it's lawsuits or certain things that can bring down a company. in the nfl it's the concussion issue, they're trying to lessen the injuries. the reality is high school players are bigger, steroid use is up in high school, college players are bigger, the game is faster. now it's no huddle. now it's spread. there's a lot of issues here with injuries in the nfl. >> the bosch report, it was aimed principally that he was selling steroids to high school kids, not major league ball players, not nfl football players, kids, and that's where the root of the danger is. that's why you have to have stronger drug policies at that
level. >> i heard a story yesterday on radio, not sure where it was, that kids now are not just taking hgh, young boys, for football, they're taking it to just look better. they just want to look better. >> hey, old dudes are doing that. you see these 65-year-old guys -- you never see donny deutsche? they're out here. you think barnicle's physique is natural? everybody is taking hgh. >> the juice is loose. >> you're not a user or believer yourself? >> no, i'm not. i'm a believer in the lord. >> you look great. >> i do. >> you should see barnicle without a shirt on. it's something. >> you guys are both, despite this hectic life, you both really have aged well. [ laughter ]. >> i ask you this question, so i don't watch the nfl on sundays anymore. i'm an sec guy and european
football. i love the epl. i've got to ask you about mike francesa. is he still over at fan? >> yes. >> i saw him one time working at cbs for a couple years calling football games. alabama is playing boston college and he says, like when boston college is going down the field, if we don't get a first down here, we're in trouble. i love this guy. he falls asleep. it's awesome. he's a runaway beer truck, as we say in the south. remember what he was saying? they use both of their feet? >> he's old school, and he loves baseball, that's great. he loves the nfl. he does a fine job. but i kind of poked him in the ribs the other day, he asked a soccer guy on the other day, can they kick with both feet? soccer is not going away. memo to ann coulter, the
american media talk show host for a variety of reasons, fifa sales are up, espn and fox are all in. >> can i ask you this question, can we execute seth blatter? >> i don't like him. >> the biggest issue with the sport from the american perspective isn't necessarily the scoring. it's not. baseball and hockey. it's fluid. there's a lot of movement. the bigger issue is we don't really trust -- >> it's the flopping. >> a little bit. we don't trust fifa. when you ask sports fans, it's like waste disposal in some cities. who is running it? who is making money on it? so that's the big issue. match fixing. >> i have no idea what you're talking about. yes, there is match fixing all over the place. fifa, they got to clean it up. ironically, it's the united states who some of them seem to loathe that is going to end up cleaning it up. the big sponsors who want to get
involved don't want to get involved in a corrupt sport. >> soccer is not going away. i understand that. how does it prosper? we're not a 1-0 country. >> there's connective tissue on why it will work. years ago when i was done, i came home i was down. now my dad played, more connectability. now i can play in more leagues. i can buy merchandise. it's everywhere. by the way, we have an explosion in this country. latino explosion in some cities. we now have -- the mls is profitable, ten teams are profitable. four need bigger stadiums, seattle, kansas city, portland. they're doing well. it's never going to be the nfl and it will probably never be baseball -- >> but it is getting bigger. all the kids are playing the video games.
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nicolle wallace is here with us. former white house press secretary ari fleischer, sports communications ari fleischer. i think i need to be better friends with this guy to get tickets. editor and publisher of "the nation" katrina vanden heuvel. you checked your calendar because you have a "morning joe" calendar up in your kitchen and it's been a year. >> it's been a year? we've missed you. >> well, i'm back. great to have you back. >> thank you. >> we need your husband in here, too, to talk about russia. >> yes, a lot to talk about. >> also former white house communications director and now managing director of skd anita dunne. good to see you, too. >> great to see you, joe. how are you? >> i'm doing wonderful. >> i heard you say you don't want to go on vacation. it's obviously different from
congress or anybody in washington. you can tell you're in new york this morning. >> actually i am in new york. i think i go on vacation more than congress. i'm glad to be here now. i love being here. i want to bring all of you together here for us to break bread and talk about the meetings of some of the most depressing poll numbers ever. we've got new nbc news/"wall street journal" polls to run through. let's start with the president and we'll start there and go line by line by line. if you're at home and you're going, oh, this is going to skew against barack obama, joe is a republican, he's so biased. don't worry, it's even worse news for republicans. let's start with obama, job performance. 40% approval rating, 54% disapproval. this next full screen explains so much. obama foreign policy, 36%
approve, 60% disapprove. anita, let me start with you. you worked at the white house. obviously you have tons of friends inside the white house. we're a long way from hope and change. we're a long way from those greek columns, from all the promise of 2008. it's looking fairly grim inside the white house with these numbers. what gives? >> obviously it's a summer full of challenges for the white house and for the world internationally as well as continued challenges at home. i think what you've seen the president do is do as much as he can, and he will continue to do as much as he can despite a congress that, as you rightly pointed out, is far more unpopular than he is and frankly is refusing to do just about anything. they're giving the phrase "do nothing" a bad name. i think both internationally and hear at home, he's doing what he can do and internationally, i think if you look at what's going on, that the president is continuing his policy of
diplomacy and of leadership without committing troops everywhere. that is actually i think very much in line with what the american people are looking for. >> ari and nicolle, you worked for presidents with low numbers. what's going on? >> our pitcher is getting shelled and not able to throw anything over the plate. it's not the problem he's doing what he can. it's what he's not doing that's gotten him into so much trouble. >> what is he not doing? >> i think two fundamental things that. first is the failure to get the big budget deal with john boehner. it set off the tenor of nothing is going to happen in washington. >> whose fault was that? >> everything accumulates up. the president is always the one that has to lead and get things done. >> democrats would say republicans were out to make him fail from the very beginning. >> the second big issue where he didn't get something done is where he drew the red line in syria and failed to act.
that sent a bad signal particularly in the middle east where people didn't think america was going to get involved or back up our words with any deeds. if you look around the middle east, one of the reasons there's so much trouble in the polling numbers, there's a sense that the president isn't up to handling any of these challenges. >> katrina? >> i think there's a fundamental disconnect between the inside the beltway pundit polling class. you're not skewing bias, but history. first of all, these poll numbers are not as low. we've seen others over the last few years. americans want to engage with the world, but they don't want to listen to the armchair warriors. they don't want -- there wasn't a great gusto to go into syria. there isn't a gusto to go into ukraine or get too involved in the middle east. i think we need to step back and understand there's a wisdom among the american people in that front. i also think that -- >> for president obama, though -- i've said this before, it's the worst of both worlds. americans say in polls, don't get involved.
you don't get involved and bad stuff happens and you're to blame for that, too. >> i think of the president -- i have a lot of issues with the president on foreign policy, but i think he has made a decision that america cannot police the world without detracting from the resources it needs, for the real security of people at home and dealing with security challenges. >> we agree a lot on that front. i'm saying the great irony is a less involved america is a america that can't control what's going on out there, and he pays for doing what the american people tell them they want them to do. >> that goes to the big thing in the poll. america can't control the world's destiny anymore. of course we're a major power, but we're not, quote, the indispensable nation. i think a lot of americans may be having trouble dealing with that. the big number in the poll is americans believe the country is going in a wrong direction and losing faith in their political institutions. this isn't new. if you've been watching cnn,
"the sixties," let's go back to vietnam and the assassinations of king and bobby kennedy, look back at the summer of watergate. this country has experienced crises of confidence in their government. >> are we allowed to say -- thoegs cnn documentsry are awesome! like the music one -- i'm going to say it. i just gasped. i sat there -- i don't want a lot of tv, especially prime time tv. i'm on tv and flipping around. joey they've got brian wilson, i've never seen this. i'm going to get in trouble. those are awesome! >> some of us were too young to remember the '60s. >> i was glued at age 13. >> katrina brings up one, 70% of
americans say we're going in the wrong direction. 80% of americans say d.c. is going in the wrong direction. in the '60s there was the chaos in the street. in the '70s, an ugly decade, too, you still had a washington that works. it doesn't work anymore. >> why doesn't it work? it doesn't work because the republicans have refused to govern. >> get her, nicolle. >> i like her too much. >> they have made destruction their mode of governance. i was talking to carl bernstein and others last night. >> did carl bring up mccarthy? >> part of watergate had to do with the republican party who said good buy to nixon. barry goldwater walked into nixon's office and said it's not going to work anymore. you had a republican party that had moderate wings. this is a tired dispute. we know this now. what do we do with a country that is in gridlock? >> you have to also say that the problem is the center has been hollowed out over the left and the right. this is an important point to bring up. then i'll be quiet.
if you look at democrats elected since 2006, they're far more progressive now. the joe liebermans are gone. there's been a hollowing out. in the house there's been a hollowing out because of gerrymandering which is just horrific. in the senate there's a natural hollowing out. there aren't people in the middle that can bring the left and the right together. >> president bush had senator kennedy and john mccain to work with. he was able to govern. you may not have liked the things he did. he did govern and did have some partners, not a lot. but some partners in the democratic party when it came to education and immigration. there were people to talk to. i'd like to ask anita if she thinks the way president obama governed makes it easier or harder for hillary clinton to mount a campaign for the presidency. i think everything president obama has done, he's basically run a global experiment to see what would happen if america completely withdrew from the world stage and didn't exert any influence. he said he doesn't believe in
the embodiment of american exceptionism. he says he doesn't believe america has a role to play. i think while americans don't want to see troops on the ground, they do want to believe america can make a difference. but part of not approving of his job and foreign affairs isn't just that we don't like what's happening in the world. we don't like that president obama acts like there's nothing america can do. >> so, anita, you always hear -- the generals are always fighting the last war. has there been an overcorrection? if there has been, i think a lot of americans would say it's understandable, after ten years of war, after ten years of occupation, an overcorrection may be in place here. >> i'm a little surprised to hear nicolle mouthing the republican talking points. >> i love when people say that. thank you. >> i was going to say nicolle
i'm going to help you with your base. >> please accuse her again of being a republican. >> we'll say it one more time and you can put it in your resume. here is the thing which is, if you look at this, this idea that somehow this administration and the president are disengaged from the world is simply ludicrous. this morning, joe, we have leaders from over 50 nations in africa in time for a historic summit. by the way, that is a very important continent for the future. these are important relations for the united states in the future. secretary kerry who has successfully helped afghanistan negotiate a recount in their presidential election. we know a little about recounts here. no always that easy to do. you have diplomacy happening everywhere right now. the idea that somehow this president has disengaged from the world is so far -- nicolle,
let me finish. i want to go back to the republicans in congress. i was working on the hill in the bush administration, a big part of that time working with tom daschle, the democratic leader. the reality is the democrats worked with the bush administration. the republicans from day one made a decision that they weren't going to work with president obama, and i have to tell you it's a very different situation. i've been on both ends of pennsylvania avenue there. >> anita, let's move on to congress, a perfect segue. nbc news/"wall street journal," they sur vaifd americans, americans came back when asked what they think about congress and their response was congress sucks. congress's job performance 14% -- putin almost got that high a number in this poll. 79% disapprove. ari, i have to ask you about this, there is my concern, it's your concern. a lot of republicans' concerns.
party approval, gop, only 19%. 54% unfavorable. the dems sitting at 31%, almost double. how many times do we have to say this? republicans in the house have to do something. it's not enough to just pass bills that you know harry reid is going to kill. by the way, i blame harry reid as much as i blame the republicans. guess what? harry reid is not the party in opposition, the republicans are. we haven't made our case on why republicans should take control. you worked in the house when i was there. what do they need to do? what does john boehner need to do to break through with a positive message instead of, we're going to investigate benghazi, we're going to investigate the irs, investigate, investigate, investigate. we're going to sue. and yes, investigate them all, but you've got to have policies that excite americans, too. >> i spent about 12 years in the house and almost six years in the senate. two points, one, the 2014
election is going to be just like 2006. it's a rejection election. 2006 was a rejection of george w. bush and his policies in iraq. 2014 is setting up the same way against president obama. so you don't have to as republicans politically speaking do much between now and the election other than win the election on the basis of anti-obama, but it's the day after. it could be a false narcotic for republicans. you could take the senate, probably gain a few in the house. it's the day after. republicans have to turn the corner. i'm looking the see who the presidential contenders will be and whether they can speak as a more inclusive fashion. we need to pass comprehensive immigration reform and republicans should do it early in 2015. >> let's say republicans win the senate. when we won in '94, we can say these are the ten things we promised to do. dam it, we're going to fight and we're going to do it. we got 70% of it done. the day after john boehner gets re-elected, the day that mitch
mcconnell is speaker of the house if he wins, what do they say they stand for? >> like i just said, the first thing is comprehensive immigration reform, keystone open -- they might. >> everything is about might when you get to the congress. nobody can ever say what they're going to do. >> let me put it in a human context. what we've witnessed is a republican party unwilling to pass long-term unemployment insurance. you have people in this country who look to congress, look to their representatives, look to government to assist when people are down and out to provide jobs that in this country today, people work full-time and still live in poverty is a scandal. i don't think that is a matter of left or right. i think it's a matter of right and wrong. i think this is something -- obama with his poll ratings not great, he has a three-to-one
advantage over congress which has refused to govern on behalf of people in this country. >> don't mean to interrupt you, katrina, only to make your point. guys, do we have the number of americans who support raising the minimum wage? here is some fascinating numbers. we're taking this out of the partisan context. nicolle, you look at things americans support the most? guess what? they're bipartisan. democrats will be very excited that the overwhelming majority of americans want the minimum wage raised. republicans will be very excited that the majority of americans want corporate tax rate cut. >> tax reform in general. >> but specifically they want corporate tax rates cut. democrats will be thrilled that the majority of americans want the top 1% to be taxed higher. >> 60% of americans want comprehensive immigration reform. >> 60% minimum wage and the overwhelming number of americans
are like me, they want us to invest in our infrastructure. by the way, any republican on cap hole hill that thinks you can run against bob byrd and his off-ramp to nowhere in west virginia, you're in the wrong decade. i've given 400, 500 speeches on college campuses, et cetera, et cetera. i've never heard one person say you're a communist, you needless investment in our infrastructure. >> how about our airports? >> our airports are crumbling, our bridges are crumbling. >> nicolle said something interesting about senator kennedy and senator mccain. you see eruption ofs what i call trance partisan coalitions. just the past week, sherrod brown and david vitter worked on banks too big to fail. >> two weeks before that on the va. >> and on the issue of how many
people in this country are disenfranchised because of drug arrests. >> by the way, i want to talk to the two republicans on the set here. that's me politely telling you to hold on one second. republicans have such a great opportunity to run against the big government and to run against big business. most americans want the banks broken up. most americans -- republicans want the banks broken up. republicans can't be seen as captive to wall street, and they're running against a woman, if she gets the nomination, that's captive to wall street. she and bill clinton are wall street. they are so intertwined. why can't we have candidates say break up the banks, don't give wall street advantages? why can't we punish corporations that take their offices overseas to avoid our taxes? they live here, they get the
benefits of being here. if you want to get denmark's tax rate, then you and your family have to move to denmark because you're not allowed to live here. if you live here, we're going to tax you. >> joe, i think you're seeing a lot of that, when you look at the republican desire to break up a bank that provides huge subsidies to major corporations so they can do business abroad. republicans are trying to do that. i think the fascinating dynamic that's going to change for our party, if hillary is the nominee, it's not going to be as much as a left-right fight as a future-past fight. republicans have the ability to paint hillary as the candidate of the past. >> i'll go back to katrina. we'll keep everybody here and anita, also. if i'm a progressive, i can't be excited about hillary. she's intertwined with wall street. are you excited about the prospect of hillary clinton being the democratic nominee? >> no. i don't get excited about
candidates. >> good for you. >> i'm excited about what i see as the energy right now in a part of the democratic party which is this progressive populist energy which isn't just elizabeth warren. i think it's that bill that pushes senator clinton, former secretary of state. >> to the left. >> not to the left, but to really listen to those. i don't want to make it partisan or petty. it's not about hillary clinton. it's about the future of this country and what i believe -- we will disagree -- what i believe is needed. people believe this country is moving in the wrong direction. they don't see people -- there is a recovery in this country, and i think a president should be marked on the subsive accomplishments -- >> we've got to go to break. i want to ask anita, also, there is a recovery out there. i want to ask anita why that's not showing up in the polls. anita, ari, katrina stay with us. still ahead on "morning joe,"
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♪ an neat tax let's finish up business from the last segment. let me ask you, you look at all the economic numbers, it looks like there's a recovery. the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. we all have to figure out how to stop that. the middle class slowly making gains over the past year or so. why isn't that reflected in the polls? >> i think that the deposition of the recession and the fact that so many people are still feeling the effects of it comes through very clearly in the
poll. we just had our sixth month of job creation over 200,000, the most -- the lowest number of new unemployment claims since 2007. it is slow, though, and always been a very slow process. the poll shows for the first time since i think -- since the recession, that more people think that we're not in a recession than we are in one. let's be clear. for people the economy is personal. in washington they talk about it as policy. i think katrina talked about the disconnect. that's one of the biggest disconnects. i also want to go quickly to something ari said about a wave election. there's no signs this is a wave election out there. in 2006, the democratic party was an alternative to the republican party. that's how waves develop. 2008, a wave election, 2010 obviously a gigantic wave election. now you have a republican party that is the alternative to obama that has a 14% approval rating in terms of its congressional
leadership and policies. so i think it's a very different dynamic and it means a lot of these senate races in particular will be fought out on a state-by-state basis. >> i think you're absolutely right. i think tom cotton is ten points ahead. that's going to be a battle. luis nan is always a battle. we don't know what's going to happen in alaska. i think it's going to be a fascinating election. anita, thank you for being with us. we appreciate it and hope you'll come back soon. >> thank you for having me, joe. >> by the way, nicolle -- >> tell nicolle i said surprised for a reason. great to see you guys. >> great to see you, too. from domestic politics to israel, the 72-hour cease-fire between israel and hamas is now in its second day and appears to be holding. let's hold our breath there. people are out in the streets and the shops have reopened.
but there were early concerns when hamas fired rockets into israel five minutes before the cease-fire took effect. negotiations for a long-term truce are currently under way in cairo. with us from tel aviv, senior correspondent and member of the editorial board, ari, the author of "my promised land." ari, we love having you on the show. thank you for being back with us. >> thank you for having me. >> we got into it on the set again yesterday with donny deutsch. it seems to me the great tragedy, for me looking at this from my safe cloistered view from the united states, the past month has seemed to strengthen hamas which i think is in nobody's best interest. do we, though, have a chance with hamas being forced to deal with egypt? do we have a chance for palestinian moderates to finally have their say and have a chance
to broker a reasonable deal? >> i think we actually do. when you look at the last months you realize that july in this country was the cruellest of months. we've seen dark forces erupting and a real tragedy evolving. now the challenge is to bring about a much better august. the terrorists, the warriors, the generals that head the world, now it's time for the diplomats to be reasonable and wise and lead the way forward. let me tell you where i think things are, what we've learned in this terrible month is two things. one, the gaza suffering which is unbearable. the second, israeli vulnerability which is unbearable as well. we have to deal with both simultaneously. the only way to do it is in a sense to lift some of the economic siege on gaza, but tie
the military siege of gaza. in the larger term i would say it's time for a marshall plan that will really rebuild gaza. power stations, hospitals, schools and give real hope for the people of gaza while fighting the fanatical extremist hamas and while disarming it. so only a double track policy which will give hope to the people of gaza, but will be very tough with hamas and will bring about a demilitarization of gaza, will give us hope. i think there's a chance for it. >> i'm sorry. i was just going to say, this time for some reason, appears to be different. we heard yesterday there weren't anti u.s. slogans out in the streets of gaza. you had some people in gaza blaming israel, blaming egypt but also blaming hamas.
it appears that a lot of palestinians are ready to move away from this zero sum game. either they win or we lose. the question is, do you believe -- you've written a lot about this, do you believe that benjamin netanyahu faced with this opening to actually empower moderates in palestine that will work towards a two-state solution, does he have the political courage to take that opening? >> i think there is a certain clans -- i'm not very optimistic, but i think there is a chance. let me tell you what this depends on. as we've seen, there are no saints in the middle east. yet i do believe there are good guys and bad guys. the good guys are the ones who love america and want stability. the bad guys are the ones who hate america and want instability. the good news is there is a potential alliance between the
good guys which is egypt, the moderate palestinians, israel, with the support of saudi arabia, the gulf countries and jordan. if we will work out a concept that brings together these moderate forces, none of them perfect, definitely some of our arab neighbors, i do not admire their democratic values and the way they treat their citizens and yet they are relatively moderate and want stability and they are with america, if america will lead a real coalition of moderate israelis, mad rat palestinians and sunni arabs, i think we can create a context in which hamas will be isolated. radicals of the region will be isolated and then the dark forces, namely iran, the islamic brotherhood, i.s.i.s., hamas, al qaeda, islamic jihad, all of these will retreat. the result right now has some promise in it, but the solution, as i told you last week is only a political one.
if we see assertive diplomacy, creative diplomacies, deals with the middle east as it is, i think there's reason for cautious hope. >> ari fleischer, there is reason for cautious hope because you look, and this is the first time this has happened. you do have uae, the gulf states, saudi arabia, jordan. you even have the palestinian authority. you, of course, have egypt who is playing a key role in this, you a lot of arab states that are also turning on hamas. 80% of the gaz sans before this attack began were turning against hamas. there is an opening if netanyahu and the moderate palestinians take it. >> i think you just put your finger on the changing winds of the middle east. ari, this is ari. i've always wanted to say "ari, this is ari." have you ever seen a potential realignment like this before in the middle east, especially
saudi arabia which has worked behind the scenes with israel over the past many years, vis-a-vis iran. have you ever seen a potential realignment where arabs are willing to work with israel against what is really radical islam in the form of hamas? >> i think there is a great potential. what we've seen -- look, in the middle east, nothing is like what meets the eye. if you really want to understand the region, you have to understand everything is multilayered here. what you actually have seen in the last weekend is egypt, israel and the moderate palestinians working together to try to stop hamas, and it worked. this is what brought about the cease-fire. if we enlarge this concept, i look at it from america's point of view. america on the one hand for very good reason is sick and tired of the middle east, for very good reasons. on the other hand, there is no way to run from the middle east. if you run from the middle east, the middle east chases you.
we've seen that in 9/11. the only sensible policy i see is for america to lead the alliance of the moderates that will bring some sort of stability to a deeply unstable region. i think if we see that, it will be good for the moderate palestinians for the people of gaza who will be different from hamas and gradually will move away from hamas. it will be better for all the moderates, for israelis, and it will serve america's interest best because it will give her the leadership it needs. as i told you, i think america is god's gift to humanity. america saved us all in the 20th century, and i wish america would lead us all in the 21st century. in order to do that, there is a potential of american leadership creating this alliance of moderates and giving some sort of reasonable modest hope to this trouble, violent region. >> ari, thank you so much. we love having you.
we hope you'll come back very soon. katrina, a great opening. july was such a horrid month, such a depressing month. as ari said, you do have arab states -- moderate arab states that used to say something behind the scenes and then say something completely different in their state-sponsored broadcast bashing america, bashing israel. is there a chance for moderate palestinians and israelis to come together with a two-state solution? >> ari said something important at the top of his interview which is, we've seen the generals and the warriors, the military men and people. now it's time for diplomacy. but too often that diplomacy has been is undered, broken, by steps taken by israel, not in its own security. hamas, yes, on both sides war crimes have been committed.
but israel is a very powerful state. america -- is it $3 billion a year in military aid and others? >> at the same time -- >> he works --. i want to say this country deserves a broader debate about israel. there's a richer debate inside israel about that. >> we're having that debate here. >> the media has not provided as much -- a little more of an opening this time around. >> but your debate here sounds like a one-sided debate. we have the ambassador to the united nations -- >> there's -- >> let me talk. let me talk. for the plo. katrina, you have to admit, you talk about israel. hamas fired 3,000 rockets into israel into civilian neighborhoods. you and i know if mexico fired one rocket across the rio grande, we would be in mexico
city nightfall and there would be people executed and the united -- >> israel must be secure, but have you seen gaza -- >> katrina -- katrina, i agree with you. but you're talking about an asymmetry in a debate, and i'm telling you that we're trying to provide symmetry. but you can't just come here and say, well, gee, it's israel that always -- if you say to me -- >> the right wing in israel i feel has worked against the best security of israel. there's a great documentary called "the gate keepers" with five former leaders of the masad who worry -- >> katrina. >> -- undermined israel's security. >> katrina, the only thing anything is ace symmetrical is israel has been forced to play defense. if they weren't unable to shoot down those rockets, the death toll would be more than what has
happened in gaza. >> ari, gaza has been ravaged. who is going to rebuild gaza? that is the international community's mandated mission. >> we've got to go to break. i have scars on my back for being down the middle on this. i am pro israeli. the reason i'm doing it is because i'm hearing my republican friends saying it and my conservative friends saying, my liberal friends saying it, people who don't give a damn about politics seeing what's happening in gaza, they've said enough. we support israel. we want israel to be safe. but enough with the gaza suffering. i think that's exactly what ari said. he talked about a marshall plan. i support a marshall plan for the people of gaza, the oppressed people of gaza, oppressed by history and the terrible situation they're in. but i lay the blame of that oppression at hamas' feet right now. we have an opportunity to
isolate hamas and give them hope. i think that's a symmetrical debate. >> we need a political solution, not a military one. >> i agree with you 1,000%, and i think there is an opening and i'm hopeful hamas is being isolated. that's a great idea. we're going to be talking, speaking of symmetry, to the plo ambassador to the united nations coming up next hour. i know you'll stick around and wake up your children to see that with us. coming up next, boy, a book that has sparked debate. called "the invisible bridge" about ronald reagan, charges of plagiarism flying around back and forth, but by one of the best conservative historians over the past decade who happens to be a liberal. we'll be right back. vo: this i. the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to. where memories will be forged into the sand.
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♪ it's amazing stuff. with us historian rick pearlstein, the author of "the invisible bridge." also with us in washington, professor of history at rice university, douglas brinkley, co-ed tore of the new book "the nixon tapes." rick, first of all, huge fan of your first two books, "nixon land and the invisible bridge." pat buchanan, bill kristol. if you want to understand american conservatism, it's a great place to start. this book is controversial. craig shirley, a good friend of moin and of this show, there have been charges about plagiarism, i guess the times talked about it. so there's passages that look like they're lifted directly
from some of craig's reagan books. what do you say? >> that's nonsense. we both used the word fess tune. i'm calling it fess tune gates. what kind of plajist links source notes to the pages he's supposedly plagiarizing. >> a lot of the passages are the same. >> they're not the same. >> you're saying that -- >> put up the second passage. he thinks i got that from him. but actually i got it from an african-american paper, "the atlanta world" from 1976. and the thing that i write is completely richer. it's -- the second passage i think that your producer showed me was the one in which reagan was shown on camera laughing at what was going on at the convention -- >> reagan dissolved into laugher. >> what that doesn't show is
then in my book i say he dissolved into laughter and then he saw himself on the screen dissolving into laughter and stopped laughing when he realized it looked bad on tv. that's from my original research. craig's thing -- i thought i was friends with him. people should read his book. anyone who is interested in ronald reagan should read his book because it's a good book. he wants my pumped, shredded. it want his read. he's also a public relations professional. his clients are people like ann coulter. the first thing they did was send out a letter to their role decks saying people could join their offensive, that's the word, and rick is trying to put a new spin on reagan and he said we can suggest tweets that you can use. so it really strikes me that this is an ideologically motivated thing. >> we'll get craig on at some
point. maybe both of you on at some point. >> i would love to. >> i would really love to talk about this book. not to stay negative. like i said, i could not be -- >> larry king tweeted it was controversial and that's why he was reading it. >> again, your first two weeks i mentioned were extraordinary books. i thought you took a more negative tone toward reagan in this book. is that a fair assessment? >> i just kind of report what i see. >> what do you see? >> well, one thing i see, i write about this in the pref foss. it's very important to understand that opinions about reagan have always been divided. they've been divided since he was in high school. i tell a story about how there was a cartoon in his high school yearbook making fun of him. some guy says, i'm drowning, and
reagan goes out and saves him. the guy says, no, don't save me, i'm trying to commit suicide. reagan says you'll have to postpone that. i'm trying to win a medal. people saw him as this phony ever since then. but other people saw him as a hero that they wanted to i'm late. in the preface i quote a letter from a woman who writes him who said you need to save the country just like you saved someone when you were a lifeguard. by the same token, i had a friend who couldn't bring herself to read the manuscript because she was still so mad at ronald reagan. the bottom line s i'm trying to bring back the idea -- the fact that ronald reagan is a controversial figure that has always divided america. >> it seems you're more sympathetic to richard nixon more than ronald reagan. >> people have told me they came
away from the book more sympathetic to reagan. i don't know. i didn't go in with that agenda. it seems like reagan books are defensive voided in two. they either treat him as providential, put on earth to defeat the evil empire. >> i've written a few of those. >> let's bring in doug brinkley. it's fascinating. people are still trying to get their arms around this man. we talked about what churchill would have said, he's still a mystery wrapped in a middle. >> there are parts of ronald reagan that i didn't know. >> absolutely. he's become a beloved figure. you have reagan national and all the rest. his presidential library is the most visited. the big reason everybody talks about reagan and generates
such interest is because we may be living in the age of ronald reagan still. by that i mean the two big political figures of the 20th century from pure politics was franklin roosevelt and ronald reagan. fdr told america that the federal government is there to help you. it was there to plant trees with the shelter belt in the depression and all of those -- you know, it's here to feed the poor during the new deal. it was here to do social security. and then the government won world war ii, the atomic bomb on the manhattan project, federal government, harry truman continued creating government. the nsc, the pentagon, the joint chiefs of staff, the cia. dwight eisenhower, interstate highway system, biggest public works in history. kennedy did the moon. all this federal government. even nixon creates the epa, jimmy carter fema and then reagan. the revolution comes in '81 and it's a roll back that reagan is talking about. rolling back the great society
and some of the new deal programs and that's where we are right now. >> rick. >> yeah, but he likes certain parts of government. he certainly liked the cia. he was on the rockefeller commission that investigated the cia and he was livid that they were taking on this part of the national security state that truman had started. so -- and of course when he was president he was quite pragmatic. he didn't roll back government like a lot of you guys had hoped. in fact conservatives all through his presidency had said reagan had sold out reaganism. >> bill buckley had to go to california in 1967 to defend ronald reagan against conservatives who said he was a sellout. >> what i'm wondering listening to this is part of the root of the disagreement that other conservatives have with you and this book is that they are into mythdom. let's maintain mythdom about ronald reagan. it's far too early for him to be a myth. >> for the record, it's far to
early to say conservatives have turned against this book. i'm just saying i'm a huge fan of your first two books. i just thought you gave reagan tougher treatment than you gave goldwashington goldwater or nixon. i'm reading the whole thing and conservatives should as well. >> let the readers judge for themselves, i guess. loo look, if this guy is the most important man to ever walk the planet, shouldn't we be studying him, warts and all? look, people have always been underestimating ronald reagan. richard nixon underestimated ronald reagan and william f. buckley said he couldn't possibly imagine this guy as president. but there's this great nixon tape in 1971, you know. nixon and kissinger are sitting around. i think nixon or kissinger says can you imagine ronald reagan sitting in this chair. and kissinger is like no way, he's going to start a nuclear war. that was 1971.
you can get it on youtube. two years later because he's such a rising political figure, they bring him in on the consultations and say we have a problem. egypt is exaggerating the number of israeli planes that they're shooting down. reagan says that's no problem. just announce that we're going to on a one for one basis replace every israeli plane that egypt says it shoots down and kissinger was like astonished at this guy's intelligence and he said i wish i had a guy like that on my staff. so i just brought that story into the public record. >> all right, very good. rick, thank you so much for being with us. >> congrats on the book. >> this discussion will continue and we'll see if we can get craig on and you guys can break bread together. >> duke it out. >> exactly, duke it out. >> the book is "the invisible bridge." rick, thanks again. doug brinkley, thank you as well. coming up next, we're breaking on the latest nbc news/wall street journal polls. they are ugly for both sides.
chuck todd will be here but there's a ray of hope in the poll and chuck will tell us what it is. i have absolutely no clue. plus pretender or contender. one way or another rand paul is making an impression in iowa, and the global market is reeling. did you see this? they were reeling yesterday as russian troops assemble on the border of eastern ukraine. is this the first step before a larger act of aggression? is war coming in russia? "morning joe" will be right back.
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israeli troops today finally pulled out of gaza. >> was this a celebration of a victory or just relief at their return? >> uncertainty too whether hamas forces ensure no more rockets are fired into israel. >> we have to talk about demilitaryizing israel. >> nancy writebol has arrived safely. >> afghanistan is still a war zone. >> the pentagon confirming moments ago that an american general was killed. >> major general harold green, the deputy commander of the security transition in afghanistan -- >> he wasn't there -- he was help krt icf. >> we're going to see a lot more of this as our combat forces zero out. we're not going more and more
vulnerable not just to killed and wounded but to abductions. >> rand paul is in iowa where he is running and sometimes ducking. >> if you have a question, i'm happy to answer it. >> i get paid a lot to be wrong. i'm sure i'll be proven wrong here. he's a fascinating guy, he's a fascinating candidate and i think he has absolutely no chance to actually be elected president of the united states. >> you're talking about real hard choices. which would you rather fight, one horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized horses? >> we'd have peace peace here, there a peace, everywhere a peace. >> welcome back to "morning joe." so great to have you guys with us. man, the first two hours of flown. this hour, don't blink because it's -- i mean we have so much stuff to fill, and you're here with some really happy news, chuck todd. >> america needs prozac. >> no, no, you're going to tell us these poll numbers are like prozac for america.
>> absolutely right. >> chuck todd is here, he's got some polls. also we've got managing editor of the news website, bobby ghosh, sara eisen and op-ed columnist dana milbank is here to cheer us up because dana always cheers everybody up. >> he writes only about the happiest things in washington. >> he's polly annish, i beneficiary he had would be a bit more biting at times. >> the economy is better. >> and see that's the thing, okay. the economy is -- >> no. >> hold on. the economy is better, sara, right? >> right. >> but nobody is noticing that it's better. >> well, no, they do notice. that was what was interesting about our poll. they know the economy is better. it's just not better for them. >> why are they so depressed? >> it's a number of things. first of all, they're not recovered from the recession. yes, financially they have recovered, but there are still one in three americans that are either supporting a child over
the age of 21 or a parent over the age of 65. the great recession made that. so you have these folks sitting there, they're digging out and sitting there going i'm still dealing with the recession. yes, my income, by the way, flat, but i have a job and all these things, so i'm still dealing with it even though you keep telling me the economy is better. >> so, sara, like 70% of americans, i'm a politician so i round up or down. 70% of americans think we're going in the wrong direction. 80% of americans think washington is going in the wrong direction. talk to those 70% of americans and tell them why the economy is getting better, why things are improving. >> well, we saw a 4% growth number last week for the second number. that is a big deal. but you sort of do have this two-speed recovery going on between income. low income, middle income hasn't seen a recovery and wages is the story of why most americans aren't feeling it. adjusted for inflation, they haven't gone anywhere during
this entire jobs recovery. the good news is, though, job openings are at the highest level in multi years. the good news is we've seen several months now a stretch of 200,000 plus jobs created in this country. >> easier to get a job now. >> employment rate going up because more people are actually looking. so easier to get a job. we need to see those wajges stat to go up. >> let's look at those numbers again. you would have thought yesterday people were jumping out of their windows. oh, my gosh, the stock market crashed. we're almost at 16,500. the numbers have just exploded and people don't feel it on main street at all. >> only half of the population owns stocks. they have been burned by the financial crisis. unless you have it in your mutual fund and retirement portfolios, you're not feeling a recovery in the stock market. >> look at these numbers from the poll. 64% of americans are not satisfied with the state of the economy, 35% are and that 1% not
sure. >> but you just said the stock market is rewarding companies for streamlining, for hoarding cash, for cutting people. the stock market does not reward companies for investing, for being entrepreneurial, for creating new jobs. so i think that that's why this is even worse on how people feel. >> the president's job approval, 40%. born policy just bleak. 36% approve, 60% disapprove. dana milbank, my god, here we are 2014, coming up on a midterm election. this is so lined up for the republicans, they are going to sweep through there. it's going to be a prairie fire sweeping across america. but wait, you look at congress' job approval rating and the
american people say they suck. it's 14% approve of congress' job performance rating. here's the party approval, dana. the gop 19%. only 19% have a favorable impression. 54% unfavorable. democrats, i was about to say all the way up at 31%. my parents were glad when i get 31s on my math tests but nobody else is. so, dana, washington, d.c., man, if i'm an incumbent, i'm thinking this year going into the election that i actually -- there is a chance that i could get challenged. it's bad news for d.c. >> it is bad news overall for d.c., but let me add some cheer and light to this. >> that's why you're here. >> that's why i'm here, because i'm always -- the glass is always half full for me. i don't think these numbers are that bad for president obama given how awful things are overall. and it's not just the economy that's bad. americans are depressed.
76% in this poll don't think their children are going to have a better life than they have had. so far they're right if we're talking about the millennials. 60% think the nation is in decline. when you've got those kinds of numbers, more than 70% on the wrong track, for the president to be where he is, is quite extraordinary. and the pollsters are saying this does not indicate the sort of wave elections, so people are sort of universal in their discussion. >> so, dana, in the past you'd look at right track, wrong track. you'd look at the president's approval ratings and you'd be able to predict for the most part other than 1998 what would happen in off-year elections. why is that not the case this year? >> because of the disgust with washington, 70% is universal. it's also because there's only so many ways voters can register their disgust because very few people are actually vulnerable when you look at the house in particular. and then, you know, you look at the senate. like last night's primaries, you
don't see a lot of anti-incumbent antagonism out there in the voters. they're depressed, they're disgusted with washington. they don't know particularly what to do about it. >> and, dana, of course every republican in washington, d.c. is going to be holding their breath and waiting for your answer on this because they know they can't wait to hear the answer to this. what is wrong with the republican party? >> oh, they'll be fine, joe, don't worry about it. >> no, i don't know that they will. i mean the question we've been asking all morning is what do they stand for? i know people hate to talk about like when i ran for congress. i'm sorry, i could talk about when i was a high school football coach. it wouldn't be as applicable. when i ran, everywhere i went people are saying what are you going to do if you actually get elected. i say we're going to do this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, shove it through the house. if you were a republican in 2014 and people says what are you going to do other than
investigate, investigate, and i'm not talking the investigations, but what are you going to do other than investigate, seriously, what is the answer a republican can give? >> i mean i would say the campaign slogan boiled down for november is not that guy. so we are not president obama, we are not the democrats, and they figure -- and they're probably right, that will be enough to get them across the finish line this time. that's of course not enough in the long term and even in 2016 term because you actually do have to have some sort of an alternative here. so i mean they're playing a very short-term game here which may work and may feel that validated their strategy going into this but i don't see where you go starting in december. >> you know, chuck, i always love to say that i'm living proof that in off-term elections you can beat something with nothing. in presidential elections you actually have to stand for something. i'm not so sure in 2014 that's the case anymore. tom cotton should be up by ten points in arkansas.
he's not. republicans should have closed out mary landrieu by now in louisiana. they have not. georgia, still up in the air. there are a lot of red states where democrats are still holding on. >> part of the issue is independents are totally throwing up their hands. you see interest in this election by independents cratering. one of the reasons our poll says this isn't a wave election. interest is lower now than '06 or '10 to wave elections. the voters don't have amnesia. they voted for change three of the last four elections and they didn't get it and they're mad. by the way, you want to know what the future of the republican party looks like and what happens when the whole thing blows up in your face? >> what's that? >> look at kansas. kansas is a mess right now. sam brownback, a conservative. >> sam is in trouble. >> he's in big trouble. he only got 62% in a primary. he didn't really have a real challenger. >> why is sam in trouble right now? >> there's a couple of things. one is he was very aggressive and basically trying to leave
the charge to purge his party of moderates. he put in a tax bill that was fiscally -- the moderate republicans argued it was fiscally irresponsible, it was too much that he didn't pay for it. he went very much with a very aggressive tax-cutting policy. "the wall street journal" loves it, but half the party inside of kansas doesn't. but this is a state. the republicans are in charge. this is full-on being in charge. >> you can't point your finger at anybody else. >> and you're seeing almost an implosion here, an ideological implosion taking place inside of kansas. obviously the book years ago "what's the matter with kansas" talked about why do rural folks in kansas vote against their economic self-interests. but there's a different way, if you want to understand how the national republican party and congressional republicans could see the whole thing collapse on them, go look at kansas. >> sara, one final question about the polls and then i want to talk about afghanistan with bobby and just unbelievable news that came out yesterday. so it's fascinating, we were
talking about this last hour. you look at what americans want. they want the banks broken up in this wall street journal poll, they want corporate tax rates cut, very conservative, right? but they also want minimum wage raised. which conservatives don't love. and you can -- there are all of these contradictions. but there is actually a consensus that is not left or not right on economics. they want the 1% to get taxed more. a lot of different things going on here. >> and that's a reflection of the sluggish growth and sluggish income growth. what the business community wants from washington right now, immigration reform, we know that, and that's sort of on both sides of the aisle. corporate tax reform, also going to be very tricky to pull off. the party that campaigns should campaign on those factors that will boost the economy and will boost normal americans' way of living and their incomes. you heard president obama talking to the economist magazine earlier this week, hostile with ceos and the business community saying that
they live in the hamptons and they should stop complaining. what the business community wants from the republican party is less regulation, dodd-frank financial regulation and obamacare and more proactive reforms. you talk about a reflection of cost cutting. they need to invest and have the confidence to hire. it starts with the ceos, say what you will about them and about businesses. if they get that confidence, that could go a long way to restoring incomes and helping the economy. >> the top ceos may not say it in front of a camera, but you talk about a lack of distrust in the president of the united states -- >> exactly. >> it is hostile. >> but the supposed party of business, this is a republican party that wants to dump the import/export bank, doesn't want to do immigration reform. the business community's agenda is not the republican -- the irony is obama is closer to what they want to get done -- >> i don't know about that. >> i know that, look, the epa thing is a different story, some
of these regulations. but let's talk about immigration reform and import/export, obama is their best ally. >> dana, it is something and the president can't seem to win for losing with wall street. and this has been -- this has been a bizarre relationship since 2009. he's done a lot of things. he didn't crack down on the big banks a way a lot of his own supporters want him to crack down. there are a lot of punitive measures that he could have taken. and the justice department could have taken against some of the malfeasance that occurred. he didn't do it, and yet he's still very unpopular on wall street. >> he hasn't been able to profit from that. chuck is right, there is a huge amount of antagonism. mo brooks from alabama who just yesterday or the day before was talking about the war on whites. he was making an argument against "the wall street journal" editorial page.
there's a huge divide there. if you look at the facts on the ground since then, they have little reason to be frustrated with him as opposed to what they're getting from congress but i think there's a long hangover effect there. >> if i were groucho marx, the duck would have come down because dana got in the war on whites phrase. congratulations, dana. you said the magic phrase. >> we gave people a bunch of lists on how to improve the economy. 78% picked this. increase fines and jail time for executives at financial institutions who broke the law would help. so you've got a public out there that's actually ticked off that nobody went to -- ceos are upset that, hey, you're not doing the corporate tax rate. the public is upset that a ceo isn't in jail. >> and that's what the president is responding to.
>> there's a disconnect between america and the east coast. >> a republican candidate that goes out and is anti-big business and anti-big government does big things. >> watch out for rand paul. >> they're just not out there. rand paul running away from some of the things he said. >> he does run away. >> just a couple of years ago. >> literally we saw him run away. >> he literally ran away from the dreamers and now he's running away from what he said about cutting off all aid to israel. this morning changing stories from domestic to international. the pentagon is investigating an attack that left a two-star army major general dead. the highest ranking american killed in iraq or afghanistan. the 55-year-old major general was harold green, the second highest ranking american serving in afghanistan. he was overseeing the transition efforts in handing over u.s. responsibilities to afghan troops. green and other coalition forces were at camp tuesday when an
afghan soldier opened fire, seriously injuring several others before being killed and returning fire. bobby, my god, you look at this poll and there is so much to talk about. we could talk about russia, a possible invasion, what it did to the markets yesterday. we could talk about what's happening in the middle east. we're going to with the ambassador to the united nations for the plo coming up, but of course this hasn't happened since, i think, '70 or '71 in vietnam. the situation in afghanistan is just a mess. you talk about americans looking around going what's going on. so many americans still want to know why we're spending $2 billion a week in a war that we just can't win. >> well, i think that drawdown that the president has promised couldn't come fast enough for many americans. it is the most senior military official killed since vietnam. since we are desperately trying to look for good news this morning, the number of green on blue killings has actually come down. the target was a big one this
time. >> 2012 was huge. >> nearly 50, last year nearly 15, this year this is only the fourth, i think, all year, which is a smaller number. that's very small consolation. the opportunities for green and blue violence will reduce so fewer american soldiers, knock on wood, will die. but what this tells us is there is still a gigantic mess we're leaving behind there. if the afghan military cannot stand up, and the indications are not good, if they cannot stand up, that quickly will very quickly devolve back again into this cess pit and it will pull its neighbors, pakistan again and it is once again the place from where terror will be exported around the world. >> it's unbelievable all the lives that have been lost, all the money that's been invested in iraq and in afghanistan. here we are 12 years later, 13 years later, we're still looking for that thomas jefferson
figure. guess what, he's not there. >> well, he's not. it's been three months since presidential elections and they still haven't figured out who the president is. the two candidates are still fighting. john kerry tried to mediate there and that still hasn't happened. they're still counting the votes all over again. there's no one who's behaving like a statesman. never mind thomas jefferson. no one is willing to behave like a statesman. everyone is behaving like a narrow tribal or ethnic leader. and that's the nature of the problem. >> we would settle for far less actually. >> the afghans would settle for far less. >> wouldn't political rivals in a country that cared about this, they'd be both serving in the government. wouldn't at this point -- >> that's what kerry tried to do. >> and that's what george washington did. he brought a bunch of rivals into that cabinet. you know, there actually is a model. >> i know, there is. chuck todd, thank you for being with us. dana, thank you for bringing your own special brand of sunshine to "morning joe." you have lit us up. thank you for coming, i hope
you'll come back soon. we loved having you. still ahead on "morning joe" drugs on the diamond. has baseball successfully moved on from the steroid era? plus, will the peace in gaza hold? we'll be discussing that with the ambassador of palestine to the u.n. but coming up next, is a tech bubble ready to burst? the co-founder of foursquare, dennis crowley, is here to explain what's next for silicon valley and his company. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. everybody's excited about the back to school
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silicon alley. what exactly is silicon alley when it's at home? >> i think silicon alley now is just all of the tech activity that's happening in new york. i've never found the one specific alley. >> you've been looking since '98. >> since i moved in '98 i thought it was one street and i think it's most of downtown manhattan at this point. >> you've got a pretty good streak, though. you've got some great tech startups. >> yeah, we're doing okay. foursquare hob going for five years strong and i had a company before this. >> so is there a tech bubble? are we worried about a tech bubble? >> i was watching the pets.com commercial. i haven't seen that in forever. back then, that was people trying to sell a little bit of everything on the internet. the people that are selling stuff on the internet have figured it out. i think what companies like four square are doing now is trying to reinvent the world through this lens of data analytics and how can we reinvent the world with data. i think it's an entirely
different game now than it was back then. >> sara, you look skeptical. >> i've been seeing these evaluations, they're eye-popping. you mentioned eastern airlines. does it make sense to you that uber, which is not a public company yet, is valued more than united airlines or whole foods? that's the valuation these types of companies are getting. >> you look at the potential of these companies. it's like is uber going to reinvent transportation logistics? are they going to be the broker by which people go and pick up their driverless cars. who knows what that future looks like but they're in a good spot to execute it. >> i was going to ask about the data analytics bring up. he who has the data wins, as we know with the nsa. so how are you trying to expand the footprint of what we've come to know foursquare to be and how you see it moving beyond that so that you stay futureproof. >> what we've been trying to do is build these amazing personalized local search ing n engines. why should all of us get the same search results if we're
looking for lunch or dinner in this neighborhood. we should learn from the way people experience new york city to give everyone different results. >> what if i don't want people to know where i am. >> it's not about people knowing where you are. its new foursquare is how can we take all this information about where people have been in the past and help you find spots perfect for you. >> like a yelp. >> but much smarter. with yelp all of us get the same results. but what foursquare is trying to do is you would get different results, you would get different results. >> thomas and i would get faur different results. >> if you're interested in creating a tech alibi, foursquare could be your end. >> i just learned that german factory orders fell off. >> way to bring that in. >> as dennis is pointing out -- >> you sound like a consumer that has used this as a tech alibi. >> no, not yet. but since we're thinking about it, i'm always thinking about things. >> of course you are. >> but joe is bringing up the contrast about the fact that he
doesn't want people to know where he is so why is foursquare a viable service for him to use? >> and you've got a new app, right? >> it's called social media. social. >> i never tell people where i am until i left three days ago. hey, look, it's beautiful in nantucket. >> one of the things we found out is not everyone wants to share their location all the time. so for the people that do want to do that, we launched a separate app for them and called it swarm. you can download it now. >> it's called swarm? >> swarm, yes. swarm is the one where you want to share that you're traveling to all these exotic places. >> i'm going to line that one out. >> the new foursquare app is all about learning about the things that you like and so we can drive you toward the places we think you'd love. >> let's say i want to find the best music spots in brooklyn and williamsburg. i go on the new four square app. >> yeah, either type in i'm looking for live music or scroll over to night life.
based upon where people are going in realtime and based upon what people have said about those places, we help you find the best things that fit your taste. >> so we're talking about jobs. we're talking about americans being unhappy. i get that you're trying to transform industry and you're trying to change the world. what about jobs? what's up when it got acquired by facebook had 55 employees. are you guys creating jobs? >> i think we're creating jobs. it's very difficult to find software engineers that are incredibly talented. >> can i ask you about the immigration crisis, the immigration debate. how important is it for you to be able to get immigrants that, say, graduate from m.i.t. and then they have to go back home? >> it's tricky because we hit -- we're only allotted a certain amount of visas every year and we hit that limit every year. there's always people we'd love to pull in but are above that limit. so it makes hiring talented
engineers even harder because we're up against those restrictions. >> how much of a difference would it make for you as far as global competitiveness if you didn't have those restrictions. >> i don't think it's just us. we would pick up a handful of engineers per year, which would be a huelp for us, but across te companies in new york and in the valley, i think it would make a big difference. >> all right, dennis, you've convinced me there is no tech bubble and i'm getting your new foursquare app. >> what's that watch? >> it's called anuka. >> so this for the camera. it's called a nuka watch. >> does it tell time? >> it does, yes. >> what else does it do? >> it tells the future. >> tells the future? >> in the future, four square is awesome. >> oh, that is so awesome. >> so, sara, before you leave, we always look at german factory orders to figure out what's going on. >> as you should. >> and you say german factory orders fell off a cliff and this
is important. >> because it is the russian factor. obviously the sanctions are starting to hit russia. europe and russia have a very close trade relationship. russia is the eighth biggest economy. >> thomas was just telling me this. >> this is not a small emerging markets economy, as thomas knows. >> so putin moves troops to the border of the ukraine, we feel it here yesterday on wall street. >> you saw it. just a headline, vulnerability, it's a fragile market out there. the geopolitical tensions especially in russia and ukraine are shaking confidence right now. >> dennis, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> appreciate you being here. check out more on our website on afternoon mojo to find out more about dennis, foursquare and the watch that he wears. coming up next, israel and hamas are taking the first steps toward a long-term truce but a deal won't be struck without conditions. we'll talk about the prospects for a more stable cease-fire with the palestinian ambassador to the united nations coming up next. ♪
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we're now in the second day of a 72-hour cease-fire between israel and hamas that for now still appears to be holding. with us now the ambassador for palestine to the united nations,
ambassador riyad mansour. >> thank you for having me. >> i was talking to an israeli journalist earlier and he talked about the horrors on both sides. he talked about the palestinian suffering. i mean saying things that you don't usually hear from israelis, that it's just -- that we may actually have an opening. is there an opening for peace out of this terrible tragic month of july? >> i hope so. it is not going to be easy, it's going to be very difficult. we have a delegation prese representing all the palestinians in cairo that has been there in a few days. i believe there will be an israeli delegation going to cairo today as well. i hope that we can begin the discussion in order to not allow for a 72-hour cease-fire but for a long cease-fire and to deal with the root causes of this situation. >> and hopefully lasting peace. >> yes. >> do you think the palestinian authority is going to have more
authority to negotiate with israel on a long-term peace deal since you have the saudis, the egyptians, uae and a lot of other states trying to bolster you and trying to push aside some of the more extreme elements of hamas? >> we succeeded in april of reaching an agreement to have a national consensus government. and that national consensus government represents everyone, including hamas. so for us in this national consensus government under the leadership of president mahmoud abbas, if we succeed by being empowered by everyone, including the international community, to be responsible for the transition of rebuilding gaza and having a long-lasting cease-fire and then to move into the political situation of negotiating the end of occupation and the independence
of the state of palestine so we can have two state solution living side by side in peace and security, then that would be the best thing not only for us, for israel and for the entire region. >> ambassador, you talked about the national consensus government that you agreed to in april. hamas was at that point at its historical weakest moment politically as well as militarily. what is your assessment of hamas' position now after a month of fighting? there are some who say that hamas in some ways is stronger, at least politically, and if that is so then the dynamic within the coalition government changes. is hamas a political force that now you have to reckon with? >> hamas is a significant political force among the palestinians. the israeli government waged this war for several reasons, including the reason that they wanted to destroy the national
consensus government, to keep us divided and, therefore, weaker so that they can make us in a weaker position in terms of negotiation. now the challenges for us is not to allow the israeli government succeed in the destruction of the national consensus government, but to allow the national consensus government to lead the negotiation in cairo, to succeed in the negotiation there, to show the palestinian people in the gaza strip that it is the government that was able to make a difference in their lives by lifting the siege, opening the borders, allowing our fishermen to fish deep in 12 miles or beyond in the mediterranean sea where they can get most of the food for the people in gaza in terms of fish. if we succeed in these challenges, and i believe that the gentleman that you referred to, he was saying you cannot
have success in dealing with the situation in gaza without lifting the siege against the people in gaza. he is absolutely correct. we need to show especially the young, 50% of the people in gaza are under 18. we have to give them hope. >> so with that, and i've made no secret of the fact that i'm a long-time supporter of israel, but with that i would love for the borders to be open, for there to be the possibility. the egyptian border and more movement and less of a siege mentality there, but how do we guarantee security for the israeli people so hamas doesn't use that opportunity to just rebuild its war machine that not only undercuts israel, but undercuts what you're trying to do? >> well, we have to build on things that succeeded in the past. >> right. >> hamas and israel reached a
cease-fire agreement in the year 2012 under the auspices of the egyptians. president abbas was not involved in that. now we have a national consensus government that represent everyone, including hamas. if we have that cease-fire and build on it and add new things to it, such as the possibility of putting in place an observer force or group of people to observe the cease-fire, for the israelis that that observer force will create a deterrent atmosphere so that nobody will be firing anything from gaza towards israel, for us in the gaza strip, it will create a deterrent element where the israelis will not be executing palestinians in gaza and attacking gaza as they wish. so this new additional element which we are dewait batbating -
>> and also so israeli people don't have to worry about rockets raining down on them from ha hoss. >> but also when you have 11,000 killed and injured in four weeks, 80% of them are civilians, large number of children, this is a tragedy. it's so huge that is impacting the entire population, entire nation of the palestinians, including half a million displaced. >> there's no doubt it has been -- july has been one of the most tragic months, and let us hope that peace comes out of it. thank you so much. >> thank you very much for having me. >> and we hope you'll come back. nicolle had five or six questions, we just don't have time. >> okay. coming up, how baseball explains america. the author of that new book explains our obsession with america's national pastime. we'll be right back.
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with us now, the senior correspondent for mlb.com, hal bodley, he's the author of "how baseball explains america." one of the most important books written about baseball. that's a pretty damn good review by "the new york daily news." >> that's true. it's also such a thick and deep part of our culture, baseball. explain what you've been doing with your whole life, and it's all right here in this book right now. >> after covering baseball for 55, 56 years you have a lot of memories, a lot of tapes stored away, interviews you've done with a lot of people and that type of thing. i wanted to bring it altogether. i thought i could do a memoir. i talked to ted williams in his underwear. i flew on air force one with george h.w. bush. then i thought, hey, that doesn't really work too good. what about baseball and how essential it is to our society. every day. i challenge you, can you go an
hour without using a baseball term in your language. you probably can't but it's such an important part of our society. it's essential, the people who have a great passion for the game. they love the game and made it possible. i tried to tie all that in and it's been very, very rewarding for me. >> i think all of us on this set agree that baseball was such an integral part of our country and our country's culture. do you worry at all about the pace of the game and the fact that the demographics of baseball are increasingly people our age and you're not too far from our age and we're losing some younger baseball fans because of the pace of the game? >> no question, mike. the games, when they last over three hours, i covered a nine-inning game in tampa bay the other day that was four hours long, it was so awful. i think the velcro, the players are tightening their gloves after every swing of the bat, that type of the game. they do have to speed it up. i think it's a big concern that we haven't been able to bring
the youngsters into the game, the little boys. my dad took me to yankees stadium in 1950, the world series with the phillies. we sat behind the dugout. joe dimaggio came to the plate. he put his arm around me and said pay very, very close attention to this because this is something you're going to remember the rest of your life. do dads take their kids to the ballpark as much as they used to? i'm not sure they do. we have a contagious type of thing where kids get really involved. i think if the games were played more in the daylight and not so late at night, that would certainly help. >> so anthony bosh arrested yesterday. brings back the question of steroids, you have a chapter in the book about steroids. we all lived through the steroid era. we may or may not be over. i was a san francisco giants season ticket older. i watched barry bonds break all those records. context y
contextualize it. how do we look at that era and put it in proper context? >> i think our society struggles with it, obviously. i think that decade of the steroid era, it's very, very important we recognize it. if we ever use those record books, we have to have an asterisk in there. i think saying this is during the steroid era. for me personally i will never vote for any of these players that have tainted the game and been involved with steroids. so it's a very, very important thing. >> i was just going to say quick debate here, let's talk about something important. the greatest decade for baseball. i grew up in the 1970s. you had the oakland a's, hank aaron, willie mays was still playing, lou brock. it was an extraordinary decade. but you disagree with me. >> i do. i really do, joe. because i talked to tom brokaw, he wrote that great book "the greatest generation." and i said to you agree with me that the 1940s was the greasest
generation in baseball? the greatest decade in baseball. and he said positively. i'll tell you the reason why. joe dimaggio's 56-game hitting street, ted williams batting over .400. you had all of these good players going to war. above all that, jackie robinson in 1947 breaks the color barrier. that has to be the greatest. it was very, very important to our society and to baseball. >> you know, you talk about baseball, though. i really do mark so many moments of my life. 1975 obviously what happened in game six, but i will forever remember being in dalton, georgia, at my grandmom's house on april 8, 1974, when al downing pitched that pitch to hank aaron. i mean there are just -- these are the moments that mark our lives, right? >> really. it's how baseball explains america. you know, it's so important. and that moment when hank broke that record, that has to stand. and the fact that there was somebody that had peds that
helped go above that record -- the records are so sacred in baseball. >> it's still hank aaron. we shall return. it's "how baseball explains america." hal bodley, thank you so much for being here. >> always my pleasure. >> we'll be right back. where the reward was that what if tnew car smelledit card and the freedom of the open road? a card that gave you that "i'm 16 and just got my first car" feeling. presenting the buypower card from capital one. redeem earnings toward part or even all of a new chevrolet, buick, gmc or cadillac - with no limits. so every time you use it, you're not just shopping for goods. you're shopping for something great. learn more at buypowercard.com >> i'm alex trebek.
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the white house is billing the event as the largest gathering of african leaders ever in washington. a second american missionary affected with ebola is setbrants week are the only ebola patients ever treated in the u.s. ramping up for a potential presidential run, senator rand paul will continue his brief through iowa today. that does it for "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. stick around. ♪ join us in an effort to restore confidence, dignity and decorum to this institution. >> former white house press secretary james brady died today at the age of 73. >> only 69 days after ronald reagan took office. >> one bullet striking reagan in the chest. another penetrating brady's skull. >> the tragedy turned brady's wife sarah and eventually brady
himself into advocates for gun control. >> what may be an emerging genocide. shiite men are herded together and executed in mass graves. >> news about the experimental drug used to treat that american doctor infected now back here in the united states. >> a doctor in liberia describes it as miraculous. >> these two americans may save a lot of lives. >> by her suffering in this, she may be able to help countless more. >> a patient came to mt. sinai's emergency room with symptoms of fever. >> doctors now awaiting the results of tests on a man at a major manhattan hospital. >> given the amount of travel, it wouldn't be entirely surprising if there would be a case that would show up here in the u.s. >> today's temporary cease-fire was a chance for gazans to bury some of those killed. >> but minutes after the israeli initiated truce began, a missile hit a house in gaza city. >> there's nowhere here.
>> israeli will honor the cease-fire and will be watching to see if hamas does too. good morning! welcome to "morning joe." it's tuesday, august 5th. a lot to talk about today. with us on set to help us do that msnbc contributor mike barnicle and former communications director for george w. bush. where is the sarah palin line in there? >> i think it got edited out. it disappears. >> who would edit that out? that would be the top thing. joe scarborough, sarah palin, what were you, sarah palin? communications director? >> tutor. >> do not say that! that is condescending. >> i think on campaigns oftentimes your staff takes on a role getting you ready. >> just a lot of different things. >> like you are for barnicle here. >> i was a staffer. >> he also helps with the clothing and it's working very well. >> thank you. >> also, we have, mike, this is impressive. the chairman of deutsche, inc.
>> i'm so xoited. >> how many chairmans do you have here? >> how many are on the board? >> my mother. >> before we get started -- >> no, no, no. >> you're wearing a bracelet. i know it's your show but you're wearing a bracelet. >> i paid for this microphone, mr. green. yeah. i wear it all the time. >> i've never seen that. >> you got the things undone? little donny deutsche going on! >> no! not even close to donny deutsche. you've got like pimp my ride like beads there and s&m. >> i can't believe we are going here already. are we going here? >> they all have children meaning. >> sensitive. >> it's all children's stuff. are we going to show my instagrams tonight? >> women see the bracelets and they know that donny cares.
>> thank you. >> and then they go on his instagram account and they know he is one -- >> i haven't seen his instagram. >> and my dogs and puppies are children. >> one on your account was so bad we couldn't show you had your two little girls right below your pecs. it was disgusting. we are going to have to raise the level. >> i agree. >> we have somebody else here, right? somebody else? >> there must be! >> in washington, staff writer with "the hill" we want to apologize, elise. >> no problem. >> here is the good news, elise. you had to sit through all of that. that is the bad news. the good news is you don't have to sit on set with donny deutch. >> it just means i can't see the bracelets, joe. i can't see them. >> oh, my gosh. >> the technology of television. here they are. >> oh, there they are. >> james brady, yesterday, he passed away. >> a great man.
>> great man. >> courageous man. >> obviously, somebody who stayed very close to the reagans throughout his life. >> a courageous man, a great man. obviously, everyone knows what happened to james brady. shot, nearly killed, in an assassination attempt on ronald reagan, and spent the rest of his life, he and his wife, forming a committee, the brady group that still, today, and has for a long, long time, promoted gun safety. never gave up, he never gave in. >> sarah brady has been also real fighter for the cause for sometime. actually ronald reagan played a very big role, you know? in 1994, they actually had great influence over ron and nancy reagan to get ronald reagan on the phone and make those calls, nicole, when they were trying to pass assault weapon ban but for ronald reagan that would never passed. the brady name also bore his
name. you know, he really did have a huge impact and is a great example of taking what happens. we had a friend of mine on last week, bob bell got paralyzed his freshman year and he had to decide what am i going to do with my life? that's what james brady did and he made a great difference. >> the debate is sorely going to miss him. one of the ugly terrains in the american debate and the bradys have elevated it. they have made it more bipartisan and made it more meaningful and i think they have helped quiet some of the more shrill voices in the debate. the debate over gun safety in this country will be less without them in it. >> no doubt about it. obviously, though, sarah brady will, obviously, continue. >> of course. >> andrea mitchell who, obviously, knew the bradys, looks back on his life. >> reporter: only 69 days after ronald reagan took office.
>> shots were fired at president reagan in washington. >> reporter: six shots were fired. the first meant for the president exploded in the head of the white house press secretary james brady. brady had always been known as "the bear." big, irreverent even at his boss's expense. when president reagan said trus produced pollution by carbon monoxide, brady joked about killer trees. above all, brady was trusted. >> i wouldn't tell you something if it wasn't the truth. >> reporter: after he was shot brady fought for his loiven and struggled to speak and to walk. the reagans insisted he keep the title of press secretary and renamed the briefing room in his honor. >> i hope this room is always filled as much integrity and good humor as jim brady has brought to it. >> reporter: nancy reagan joked about reports he gave her the job because he wasn't good looking. >> i keep giving jim my y&h.
>> reporter: jim and sarah brady worked against gun violence. the assault weapons ban lasted ten years until congress let it lapse. after gaby gifford was shot, jim brady again speaking out. >> he is still just as funny. that's a wonderful word. >> funny looking. >> reporter: his neurosurgeon remembers that fateful day. >> to me his greatest achievement was saving the life of the president of the united states. he walked right in the line of fire. >> reporter: jim brady lived for another 33 years and valiant to the end. >> he certainly was and jim brady was 73 years old. we continue now on with news on the ebola virus with another possible scare. the united states latest in new york city. officials are now awaiting test results from a man who showed up at manhattan's mt. sinai hospital yesterday after returning from west africa with symptoms associated with the virus. fever and gastrointestinal
problems. officials don't know whether the man has the disease, but say he is being isolated out of an abundance of caution. hospital officials stress the virus is transmitted only through bodily fluids and not through casual contact. you have, obviously, the newspapers in the tabloids in the city certainly talking about the ebola scare in new york. from new york to atlanta. atlanta hospital is awaiting the arrival of a second american who is infected while working in west africa. a plane carrying u.s. missionary nancy writebol left early in the morning and expected to arrive later today. one doctor, a decorated air force colonel and surgeon, says while he trusts doctors at emery emory hospital, it was foolish
to bring ebola patients to the united states. >> they could have taken the medical equipment and the experimental serum to africa and treat the patients this rather than bring the patients here and in fact, the continental united states even though the risk is minuscule. >> elise, tell us about this. >> it's an interesting interesting, joe. obviously, you see those headlines. i think what the public does not necessarily understand about this virus, even if there isn't a major danger of epidemic here in the united states or a major outbreak, by transferring a patient to u.s. soil, you create a pathway where ebola could ultimately reemerge again. it's minuscule as the doctor said, the risk is very, very small, but i think that is something that has gone unroverted about thu unreported about this outbreak. the last time we saw ebola only
in one region in western africa and probably to make it to more country's by week's end. by creating those pathways the risk arises not only to americans, but people around the world. >> elise, do we know what mode of transportation this patient is being flown to the united states with? is it a military plane, a charter flight? it's certainly not a commercial flight, is it? >> it's an evac plane going i believe, to liberia and arrive in atlanta today and she will be brought back and apparently she is doing very well because the two american aid workers who were infected were brought a ground breaking serum has that produced great results. we know that isn't something available to most people with ebola in west africa and raising ethical questions there. it's likely these two are going to survive which is pretty incredible i'd say. >> it's important to notice the between this and sars. this is not something somebody can get breathing in the air.
>> that's right. >> it has to be bodily fluids so it is something we have to be concerned about but it is not the same level of exposure just for the average person walking around. >> no, it's not. it's important for people in new york city waking up and seeing the papers and hear about this man who may or may not have ebola. health officials think he probably doesn't but people are thinking i rode the subway with this guy. you won't go to ebola what the cdc tells me. i interviewed all of the officials there. apparently people who are getting are health workers or people involved with the bury rituals in north africa. it's not like somebody could cough on you and you would get ebola. >> let's move on to more news out of new york. this is, oh, man, this is bad news. bad news, mike. two police unions today are holding events in new york city to show support for the officer who is linked to the death of a staten island make any
difference who was put under an apparent chuokehold. eric garden ner said he could n breathe. any results is in the staten island district attorney general. they are calling for the justice department to investigate with some noticing historically strong support for the nypd in staten island and that could impact the case. this is one of the things, mike, you hate to see, obviously. the supporters of the police at the same time. you look what happened on videotape. it appears from, like, it was just such an openly excessive use of force. now that it's been ruled a homicide, there's some tough decisions that are going to have to be made. >> it's the first big test for
bi bill de blasio. the cops have been identified. obviously, the medical examiner has ruled its death by homicide. >> by the way, this guy is in a choke hold because he is selling untaxed cigarettes. >> yeah. >> untaxed cigarettes. look. untaxed cigarettes. >> and all he is doing is talking to them. >> and asking -- >> right. >> there was nothing physical happening. so i think this is a test -- >> broken windows? >> well, i think that everyone -- i think there is a republican instinct to stand up for and always take the side of law enforcement because they have one of the most difficult jobs around. but i think -- >> and traditionally conservatives have stood up for police officers. >> firefighters. >> firefighters, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. and there are some on the far
left have not. let's just put it that way. >> this video, to me, i think, is a real test for whether what we all can see plainly with our eyes is going to be reflected in the outcome and in the policy, because i think anyone watching and if you're still forming your opinions about law enforcement and you see that someone gets away with that where this was unprovoked violence against someone. the original sin was selling cigarettes. >> yeah. unbelievable. the question is again you have to ask -- what if it were your son? >> right. your husband, your father. >> what if it were your father. >> and you could not talk to law enforcement. >> that was killed and not allowed to ask a question. i'm sorry. this is pretty -- unless something else comes out based on the video, this is pretty clean-cut and we have to say it's pretty clean-cut. yes we stand and salute the nypd and always support them whenever we can but when something is this clean-cut, you know what? it's not enough to say they are a cop and it's okay.
it's not okay if there is was nothing more to that. and sometimes there is more than meets the eye. i haven't heard it yet. i'm certainly waiting to hear it. >> let me be the liberal who actually supports law enforcement. my grandfather was actually a cop. obviously, that speaks for itself, but whether it's doctors, lawyers, baseball players, advertise executives, journalist, there are going to be some low lives in every profession. >> understood. >> the question is what do you do with the low lives? >> you prosecute them. >> that's where i think this becomes interesting and maybe troubling. the instinct is to rally around your fellow police officer but i don't know that you want this guy's actions to speak for the entire department. >> they need to get more information out. >> there is an investigation. >> they need to do the investigation. we need to get all of the information out there. but to blindly support a guy who did this choke-hold on this guy for selling untaxed cigarettes.
>> it looks bad. >> it looks really, really bad. speaking of looking really bad, let's go to the middle east. after four weeks, there are renewed hopes at least, how long is a cease-fire going to effect? >> five hours. >> yeah, five hours and see how long that lasts. there are hopes to end the latest round of just horrific violence between israeli and hamas. overnight, a 72-hour cease-fire went into effect. in the coming days, egypt plans to hold indirect talks with the two sides about a long-term agreement. also overnight, israeli announced all of its troops are out of gaza after destroying the known tunnels used by hamas to launch their attacks against israeli vilcivilians and soldie. they will up force outside of gaza, but warned it will respond to any attacks. let's bring in richard engel who is live in gaza.
richard, so there has been appear bit of peace and quiet for at least a couple of hours. what is the feeling on the ground? is there a chance this peace could hold? >> reporter: there is a hope here that this peace can hold. this feels different than the other cease-fires. we get a sense here in gaza that things are wrapping up. the biggest gomt wdevelopment w israeli troops pulled out of the gaza area and no foot soldiers or tanks on the ground here. in the past, we had cease-fires but they always broke down because hamas fighters and israeli troops who were here in gaza were in such close proximity that fighting almost inevitably broke out and any hope of negotiate settlement quickly evaporated. now we have a structure in place, a structure moderated by egypt and supposed to last for 72 hours while negotiations take place. hamas has said it agrees to it.
israeli has said it agrees to it. delegations are supposed to be meeting indirect. egyptians meeting with them to come up with a deal. for the entire time i've been here, this is the most hopeful moment that we have seen that this war, one month long, could be wrapping up, but the death toll has been quite significant. this has been a terrible war for both sides. 1900 palestinians almost killed. 64 israeli soldiers and 3 israeli civilians. this has been the deadliest of the three recent wars. >> it has been so deadly. and the violence so horrific. of course, you look at those numbers. 1,800 palestinians killed. 64 israeli soldiers killed. three civilians killed in israeli. there was a report in "wall street journal" morning, elise, that the obama administration, the state department finally had
enough after the final explosion at the u.n. compound where more civilians were killed after warnings that it was a u.n. compound. that's when they decided to make their public statement. i'm curious. first of all, what is the reaction been on the hill this week? secondly, if you can, pass the question to richard engel. >> yeah. absolutely. cl capitol hill has been quiet on the hill and they lost for august resaens we have not heard much from them. this is a congress less interested in foreign policy. you just don't see a lot of reaction. and the silence is deafening when you see a death toll like this. it's pretty interesting. we do know that tensions are at an all-time high between the highest ranking officials in the obama administration and, obviously, the government of benjamin netanyahu. my question for richard, i know that some senior obama
administration officials have really taken a beating on the ground in gaza in terms of public opinion and also just around the world. i'm wondering what you hear about what the white house is doing, if anything, on the ground there? >> normally, in gaza and i've covered the last three wars here, you hear a lot of anti-american sentiment, that the united states is supplying weapons to israeli, that the u.s. is backing israeli blindly, that israeli wouldn't be doing this without the u.s. that is the baseline that we have been hearing here for decades really. this time, we heard a lot less of that. instead, we heard more anger directed directly toward israeli for targeting civilian areas and we heard an enormous amount of anger directed at egypt. the egyptian factor probably has been the least understood and the least reported of this entire conflict. i think at the end of the day, what is happening, the reason we are seeing a deal now, is that
hamas finally decided it was going to go to egypt and have to go to egypt and it would deal with general cc who is against the hamas and muslim brotherhood. you want a deal, you have to go through me and kiss the ring and accept i'm here and here to stay. i think hamas finally relented to that and that's why, i think, we are seeing progress now. it was really more about israeli and egypt this time than the united states. >> richard, we realize that you're in gaza city, but in another area of the middle east which you're very familiar with, isis has taken mosul. they have beaten back the kurd. they have taken the mosul dam, which, as you know and reported on in the past, they could flood the entire area almost down to south of baghdad. the kurds seem to be in critical position here against isis. what do you think is the role of
the united states in helping the kurds? >> reporter: well, the kurds -- so just to frame the question herein i think it's an important question so thank you for asking it. i was in baghdad a month ago and seems like a whole liz ago when isis was marching toward baghdad and it looked like the militants were going to take baghdad. the is started sending in more weapons and started accepteding in advisers. the shiite militias started to fight back and isis realized they couldn't take baghdad and couldn't continue their southern march. what did they do? they changed directions and they started going north and west, even to a degree, the east, anywhere else and they started fighting against kurdish militias and they have been having a lot more success fighting with them and taking new territory.
they took new ground in tikrit and mosul and taking that dam. now the u.s. has to realize is it going to arm the kurds? is it going to not just deal with baghdad? is it going to go directly and relate to the kurdish authorities? that opens up the question of the pkk and the pkk is a militant group that is fighting isis which the united states considers a terrorist organization. to arm and help the kurds, the u.s. would have to decide it's going to work with the pkk, which it considers a terrorist group officially, and i think there is a legal problem that is helping -- that is preventing that from happening right now. >> certainly no easy answers there. no more so than where you're standing. richard engel, thank you so much. we appreciate it. still ahead on "morning joe," michael bloomberg and secretary of state of commerce are going to be here ahead of today's inaugural business
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the morning papers? the wait is over. it's 6:28 on the east coast. from our parade of papers, we are counting them down! the toledo blade. after three long days the water advisory has been lifted in toledo, ohio. the watery advisory has been lifted in toledo, but there is still obviously lingering concerns. toledo's mayor took a big sip of water yesterday. he actually died two minutes later! he fell right over. he walked inside and just -- it was all over. they have cleared the water and it's safe to drink. i've never seen it. his liver just fell right out. wait a second. actually, that is wrong. t.j. wrote that in the script. it is incorrect. he is still live and very well. toxin related to an algae on lake erie. >> that is disgusting! >> does lake erie still look like that? i remember an "snl" skit in 1977
drinking swil water out of -- oh, my gosh. it impacted 400,000 people. officials say there could be a reoccurring crisis as algae blooms are coming! >> "usa today"! >> lake erie, clean that place up! come on! >> "usa today." netflix plans to follow up its 31 emmy nominations for shows like "house of cards." and mike's show "the orange is the new black." >> do you like that, mike? >> i do. >> mika is a avid fan. >> if you think of one show, why do you start with "orange is the new black? "? >> 11 new shows are in the works that includes several comedy and drama series. they are positive another season of "arrested development" is in
the future netflix has 60 million viewers worldwide. >> it took me only a year and a half but i final finished the season of "madmen." >> did you like it? it ended okay. first four are just punishment. >> listen. you know what? this season of "madmen" has been hammered by everybody. and, by the way, the good people at amc will tell you, i was, like, from episode one. >> i'm still watching it because you guys talked about it. >> we saw it from episode one. every season is different. i thought this season, i thought it was a good season. >> last three end really well. >> it was from a dreary time and i know this sounds kind of weird but if you're a beatles fan it remind me of "let it be," where you could see everything falling apart and there weren't a lot of happy moments when they weren't singing "i want to hold your hand." this was a very grim time, '69. i love how it ended. >> the last seen was unbelievable.
>> i thought john hamlin was unbelievable this year. i started watching it, i think donny was the only one watching it when i was watching it and was desperate for all of you to watch it because i wanted it to get better and they made you hang on i think the first third of the season and then it got better. >> "the sopranos" tony would stare at the panel i don't like myself. i don't like myself. it would be like a whole season of that! people are going, it's really deep. matthew winer went through two or three episodes where he took it a while but all for a purpose. again, it wasn't -- >> the ending it well. >> i think it was a good season. only three episodes but it was a good season. when is the next one? >> a year away. i have a new one, "the nick i "on cinemax. you will love that. 1900 opium. >> donny and i still love opium
dens. >> they went away. >> they didn't. you just don't know where to look. >> this was good. this is how people watch tv. they find their show and watch it wherever it is, right? >> what struck me is how much i love all of these characters and i've fallen, john hamm, amazing. oh, my god, he's so great! and on and on. i'm so glad that christina hendricks is in washington and you were up here when we interviewed here. >> she is my dream girl. >> i need you to be quiet about it, okay? a great actress. >> we all have dream girls. ruth buzzi for you. >> your dream girls are in the corners getting ready to go to camps right now. >> oh, god. that's terrible! >> exactly. "the washington post" has a great story too. but, no, we are going to politico! >> too much to choose from
today! >> i don't know what to do. cornucopia of news today, my friends and i really don't know where to go. it's like i'm going out of the supermarket. mike, i have too much in my arms. they are spilling on the ground. there's so much to talk about. >> yesterday, everyone who was left in washington with the congressional recess, they were at mike allen's lunch with david plouffe. the biggest draw ever for david plouffe he is the next white house chief of star or not, mike? what is the deal? >> sure looks like it. you remember david plouffe. >> how could we forget? >> during the hillary contest, he was the button down calm one who complained about the bed wetters around him who were getting worried. he was stead as she goes. then in the white house, the senior adviser. we hear from people very close to the white house that he is most likely to come in as the last chief of staff. denis mcdonough who has been with the president is going back
to the campaign as a national security expert, has been in this job 18 months. it's a burnout job. people figure that around the midterms, he'll probably head out and the david plouffe, someone the president is very comfortable with, someone who knows the obama way, someone who can be there to guide the legacy. he is already on the library board, is most likely to come in. yesterday at the playbook lunch, i asked david about it and it sure sounded like it was a possibility. he said, well, we'd love for denis to stay and turn out the lights on january 20th, 2017, no for that. it would be a way for david plouffe to send out the president that he brought in. >> any other candidates? >> john podesta could do it who is in the white house right now but we think he probably will be heading out to hillary campaign. ron clain could do it and dan
pfeiffer could do it but david plouffe is closer to the president. >> he said he didn't want to make new friends. congratulations. you've made new friends. >> and shake things up when they things are going well enough they don't need to shake it. i like david. >> things going so great, why not bring in people who were complaining, and bed wetters to cease your beliefs and people who don't agree with you 100% of the time. a final two years. i can't wait. >> i can see you love the pick. >> boy, i tell you what, let's just reinforce everything going on the past six years. i can't wait. that is going to make everything work a lot more smoothly in washington. >> can i ask him a question? >> no, you can't. mike allen, thanks. yesterday, mike allen insulted the guys in the board
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this year? >> shut up! >> i haven't heard much about the red sox. world champion red sox. >> would you be quiet? this is very important. >> i want to hear about the red sox. >> before we get to sports, major announcement. >> major announcement. tomorrow morning, sometimes you just pick up the phone. i'll be really hons wiest with . i don't pick up the phone enough. i want the herd here. >> colin coward, the best sports announcer in history. >> i pick up the rotary dial phone. the herd is on "morning joe" tomorrow. i cannot wait! >> it's the greatest sports radio talk show you've ever heard. >> he is amazing. he's here tomorrow. >> espn 10:00 to 1:00 eastern time, fantastic. 7:00 a.m. west coast. let's go to baseball. >> the red sox if they keep losing, do you think you can get me two more good season tickets?
>> i can get you six. >> can you really? >> i'm giving up all of mine. >> yankees fans would not be doing this. you would not hear this. >> both teams are bad! >> but yankees are still in it. >> get a full house all weekend long. >> we are talking about fenway, all right? >> seriously. you turn it on any night and they are on the other side of the moat. three people are there. >> because so much culture in new york. late game last night, rays and a's tied in the bottom of the 10th, two out. derek norris sends one up the middle. a game winner? 3-2 win. oakland and detroit, you might see them in the fall. to the capitol. orioles trailing the nats 3-2 in the seventh. baltimore's ryan flaherty, boom. center field wall. boom. >> bong. >> gets it in.
come on! delmonday you delmon new england knocks a pinch-hit run. single to left. brings home the run. baltimore ends the inning. 5-3 lead. that was the game. in the eighth, caleb joseph lines up the middle for another two runs. orioles win 7-3. tigers and yankees scoreless in the third. jacoby ellsbury is up. watch this catch. >> cabrera on the run and still going back. dives and he makes the catch! what a catch by carerra! >> ezekiel carerra over-the-shoulder diving catch. brandon mccarthy gives another solid performance for the yankees and struck out eight and earns the victory. 2-1 yankees. check this on out. justin verlander, great guy. talking to his girlfriend kate upton behind the detroit dugout. >> are they still an item?
>> yes. >> oh, yeah. >> i didn't know they were still an item. >> "the "new york post" "says it's true. >> shut up! >> a picture of the two in "the "new york post"" today. >> t.j., pick a camera! you're bringing three cameras at me! pick a camera! >> i can't go on any more. >> this is really important. you mentioned earlier in the show that there is a picture on instagram with me and my shirt off. hold on. but it's men on instagram. >> do not step on kate upton picture. >> by the way, if i were verlander, i would still be so angry what they did last season to me during the playoffs. yanking him. the tigers should have beaten the sox. >> and karma took care of it, right? >> when jim leyland yanked max scherzer. the big one. he took out max scherzer and ortiz, boom. >> didn't he do that twice?
>> i think he did it in two games. >> the last time he did it, that was it for the tigers. >> those pitchers were lights out for the tigers. they were amazing. >> we missed the los angeles angels playing the los angeles dodgers and i had guarantarrett richardson on my fantasy team. i sat him and he gets 50 points! >> you're not helping me. you didn't hear what i said. >> i did. coming up next, live from -- >> it was important. we have mika's must read opinion pages and coming over the teletype. we will be right back with more "morning joe." don't go away. ♪
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this is not a democracy. we are going to let donny read anything. can i show this one? seriously. we do an instagram shots. this is just repulsive. this is just repulsive. >> little girls are repulsive to you? >> why would you use your daughters that way to show your pecs? >> i am not! >> this is all about you picking up women! i hate you using your children. you know, i used to think it was pathetic when guys -- look at nicole over here. >> i felt bad! >> use dogs to pick up women and you pick up girls! >> i rented those children! >> what happened to the dog? this is a business, donny. we could do this. children and dogs. >> i love children and puppies and i love the sun. >> he loves the sun! stop it! stop it! >> donny, i felt bad when they unveiled the "time" cover and
they are talking about men who have these great physiques into their 90s and it was just like free association. i said, donny is going to be like that! and i felt very bad. >> what concerns me is men going on instagram now and not women. i should be concerned about that, shouldn't i? >> you should take it for whatever it's worth. >> i don't want to! >> dana millbank, he writes this in "the washington post." bob mcdonnell is a loser either way. the legal strategy of bob mcdonnell, even if he wins in court he loses in december during his final days in office the prosecutors offering a deal let his wife off the hook and require him to plead guilty to charges unrelated to his official duties but mcdonnell chose to go to court. had he taken the deal he would look like a sleazy pol.
now he looks like a sleazy pol. i don't know. i'm sorry, nicole. this is "morning joe" so we can actually tell the truth. i hope i don't offend somebody. i'm sorry. his wife looks like the bad actor here. my god! >> this is just a story of the ugliness of the decent grags of >> her playmate? >> her playmate. >> she wants who? >> the vitamin guy. >> this vitamin guy to be her playmate. >> yeah. >> and they went to network and they shopped at fancy boutiques and it appears that he picked up the tab. it's really seedy. >> do you have a question for elise? >> yeah. >> elise, this story, i don't
know about you, but just reading about it, i felt as if it were an invasion of my privacy. >> i agree with that. i agree with that. it's made for the tabloids, right? i do agree that the wife does raise some questions here. remember when everyone rumored him to be the next gop presidential candidate? we would have been on the campaign trail. can you imagine? my favorite revelation in this story was the idea she tried it pitch one of these supplements to the romneys as a way to cure ms. >> oh, my lord. >> she just sounds really out there. i don't know what to say about that. >> i hope the romneys said i hope secret service detail was around them and put a taser to the back of her when she did that. we were just talking before about how bob mcdonnell was a guy -- >> excited about. >> i remember in 2010 with all of these people were going out there, like, setting their hair on fire and saying barack obama is a martian and come into your
house and eat your babies! you're like, let's go with bob mcdonnell's idea instead, bob for jobs and all bob talked about. the economy got better. unemployment went down. >> he was never shrill on the subject. >> he wasn't shrill. he was a socially conservative guy and had everything going for him. but, man, this is some bad news. >> yeah. >> he didn't have a very good partner. >> no. i think i can say that. woo. i'm just going to be quiet about this now. but yeah. >> wow. >> can you not see why he is saying i'm not taking a deal that lets my wife off the hook and charges me! would you do that? >> not knowing what he did, no. >> no one is like he is finding out now or what he has found out now u oh, yeah, she can get off the hook and i will be gout like where did they op? >> oscar de la renta.
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like cows. >> with us is nbc news chief white house correspondent and political director and host of "the daily rundown," chuck todd. chuck, we are going to be waited with bated breath. you got a poll coming out later tonight? >> coming out tonight. >> debuts tonight? >> yeah. it's actually checking in and it's a little bit different. how people are viewing the great recession in the rearview mirror. it is fascinating. lately of the political stuff but this was a tough recession to recover from and you do sort of see -- >> if we have recovered. >> people still mentally haven't recovered. >> that is the question. >> they know they see the numbers of recovery. they are still supporting older parents or kids at home and, i mean, you feel -- >> stock market and the real economy, there are two economies. >> what you have in new york and everybody else. >> we people have in new york. that makes me sad. we are going to talk about that
tomorrow. in washington we have nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. thank you for being with us. >> you bet. >> pulitzer prize and winning columnist and associate editor for "the washington post," and msnbc political analyst, awe gene robinson. from the hill we have elise vivak still with us. we were talking about james brady last hour and the rest of the country and washington is remember is former press secretary james brady who passed away on monday. he was left partially paralyzed after shot on a presidential assassination attempt on president reagan. he became a fighter for stricter gun control laws. andrea, you covered the white house under reagan. talk to us about the life of jim brady. >> jim brady was irreverent. he was just so funny. he was so smart. he was so trusted.
and really loved by the press corps. which raised some suspicions among some in the reagan camp. nancy reagan had to be won over but became such a huge fan of his. he had a great relationship with the president and only 69 days after the president took office, this horrible assassination which really transformed washington. it, obviously, changed the president, the reagans. they were never the same. nancy reagan was never the same in terms of the way she felt protective and never really had a good night's sleep in the white house ever since ever after that. but for jim brady, it was a devastating wound. i interviewed the neurosurgeon who was in the e.r. and saved his life and said he had never seen this kind of injury. fortunately because he was in the presidential motorcade, jim lived because most people with both lobes -- this was of the six bullets that were fired by john hinckley, the first one hit jim brady and slammed into his
head and it was the only one that -- they were all devastating bullets but the only ones that exploded inside his head. fortunately the bullet that hit the president hit the limo handle and ricocheted into the chest and barely, within an inch, less than an inch, barely missed his heart but that's why ronald reagan was able to recover from a very, very serious injury. but brady's injury was just devastating and the fact he lived for 33 years was a miracle and his spirit kept him going, true grit. >> the work continues with sarah brady and people don't realize, we talked about it before, but jim brady is responsible, in part, for the passing of the brady bill. >> absolutely. >> but also, of course, the influence that the bradys had on the reagans. >> the reagans always stuck by him on this. very interesting. almost out of loyalty. people try to read into the
minds of -- i think this was clearly a loyalty decision. i thought it was neat yesterday. josh earnest, the white house press office, sent out their statement on jim brady from every living white house president. it was classy and well done. it was touching. the right way. they spoke as one about brady. >> what you were referring to just briefly. the fact that jim brady -- we were on the hill when jim brady got -- this was not ronald reagan's position on gun laws. he called in and that was the critical vote on that assault weapons ban. he got reagan out of retirement to make those phone calls. >> he did and it made a big difference. a lot of other things to talk about. andrea mitchell, hopefully, we have a cease-fire deal in the middle east. does it stick? >> the fact is israeli, it believes it has accomplished its purpose with the tunnels and it's withdrawn from gaza so they are not nose-to-nose.
you were talking to richard engel about that an hour or so ago. the fact this is so tenuous and all on egypt and whether hamas will let egypt be the peace broker and there is such a deep dismay in the white house and the state department toward what israeli has done, despite this ironclad alliance which, as you know, has led to 3.2 billion dollars last year alone in aid, mostly military, to israeli from the united states. there's a lot of frustration that this time israeli went too far. >> of course, chuck, you saw the "wall street journal" this morning said the white house, the last attack on the u.n. school was a final straw for the obama administration. they, obviously, sent out a state department spokesperson who basically said enough is enough. >> realistic maybe? >> i got the sense that israeli had no choice to listen.
when the state department is sending out messages as tough as the united nations. >> finally, the president went out there and gave his most supportive statement of israeli since the war began. >> yeah. >> so this was a case, which, of course, netanyahu used to his benefit the next day to basically say, hey, america is standing by us on this and then that happens. it does feel as if, you know, israeli say we accomplished our mission any way. >> let's not forgot that hamas is a terrorist organization and israeli is a democracy. just saying. >> the only democracy. there is only one. >> who disagrees with that? >> nobody, but hamas, you know, obviously, we can go on with this for hours and, obviously, seeing children killed is an atrocity. >> obviously, it is. and seeing it day after day after day after day. >> coming from shields. >> exactly. >> human shields. >> let me ask you this did oosh
-- >> who is to blame? >> hamas is to blame. if your child is being held with a gun to their head do you want the cop to shoot through your child to shoot you? >> they use human shields. somebody is shooting at my children and if that child has to die to save my child. >> it is absolutely abhorrent. the question is if the united nations warns 17 times, 17 times. >> our nation is not living in israeli. >> this is a shelter. so, donny, should this have continued? >> i think israeli accomplished its mission. >> which is what? >> which was to shut down the tunnels and keep israeli safe. hamas wants to obliterate israeli. we forget that is their mission. >> no, none of us forget that. hamas is a terror organization. i've said it. they are our enemy. they want to wipe israeli off the face of the earth. they are a scourge. but hamas is not going to be able to obliterate israeli.
you know why? because hamas is loathed by their own people. before this began, 80% of gazans who were against hamas, egypt is against hamas. >> great they are against it but when they are shooting rockets. >> let me finish my point. saudi arabia is against hamas. the uae is against hamas. >> hamas is not attacking jordan and they are not tacking those people. >> how ziltisolated they are. donny, when you continue to attack and show across the world 5, 6, 7-year-old children dragged out of rubble dead when they are running with their parents to try to hide in a u.n. school, who does that help? who does that help? >> it helps no one but -- >> no. >> a casualty. >> you are incorrect. it is a tragedy, first of all, and do not come close to saying it's collateral damage. >> i didn't say that. >> no, a lot of people call that -- >> the end result is a result of hamas aggressive moves.
>> answer my question. >> okay. >> who is helped when a young -- >> nobody. >> no, that's wrong. >> who is helped? >> hamas is helped. >> oh, yes, of course. well, when you -- i'm literally answering the question. >> israeli plays into hamas' hands. >> tunnels are shut down. >> hamas celebrates when their civilians are killed so what does israeli not do? israeli needs to figure out a way to work with the palestinian authority to minimize hamas' influence. does anybody around this set, does anybody watching on tv, andrea mitchell, i'll ask you. i know it's harder for you to answer, but have you heard anybody suggest that hamas has not been aided over the past three and a half weeks by these attacks, when they were more isolated than ever before? andrea, maybe i should ask you a news question. was hamas more isolated than it's ever been three and a half, four weeks ago and desperate to strike an alliance with the palestinian authority because it had run out of cards to play?
>> hamas was on its back heels. hamas was faltering. there is no question that in the world of public opinion, hamas has been helped by what has happened here, by seeming like a david and goliath. they have gotten world sympathy, especially in europe. >> which is my point. which is why we need to explain what is behind -- that is my exact -- they have done it and that is the shame of this. >> remember, khalid mitchell, the head of hamas, was kicked out of damascus. if netanyahu was a clever politician and comes to the peace deals he really is sort of a -- he worries about his domestic politics above all. this is the time to strike the deal with abbas and abbas alone. >> right. >> you know, just do it. >> exactly. >> and cut out hamas completely out of the loop. give the west bank almost basically, you know, offer up a deal abbas can't refuse if he
completely splits off of hamas. >> he is still brutalized. >> right now -- >> gene robinson -- >> that is the way to do this and quickly cut off world opinion and world criticism. >> it really is. gene, what i think is the most hopeful sign is the fact that richard engel reported you don't hear a lot of anti-americanism on the ground right now in israeli. -- i mean, in gaza. you hear a lot of complaints in gaza about whether it's about hamas or whether it's about egypt or whether it's about israeli. so there actually may be an opening if netanyahu was willing to strike, try to strike a deal with the palestinian authority to actually push hamas off the world stage. >> well, yeah. maybe there is a role the united states can play. here is a question that i think netanyahu should be -- here is what i think he should be concerned about. this war was very popular in israeli, but that popularity has
declined a bit as it has gone on. now he has the question of will people believe -- will israelis believe they got anything out of this war? because if the status quo just obtains now going forth, the next two years, hamas will rearm and there will be more tunnels and be back in the situation. so i think politically just in terms of his political standing that netanyahu really should show israelis that this was not in vain and that would be massive progress with abbas toward a peace deal. >> let hope. leaders from 50 african nations in washington. they will focus on trade investment and african security. the president is set to speak at a business forum tomorrow. according to "the washington post" he is going to announce a
$14 billion investment in africa from u.s. businesses. with us now from washington former new york city mayor and founder of bloomberg philanthropics michael bloomberg. with us also is u.s. commerce secretary penny pritzger. michael, are you ready to go to the middle east and strike this middle east peace deal for us? >> we couldn't hear you. we have a helicopter buzzing. say again? >> i was asking you, mr. mayor, whether you're ready to go to the middle east and strike a middle east peace deal for all of us. >> that's up to the secretary of state and the president. i can go to israeli just to lend support and i did that. >> all right. so why don't you guys tell us what you're involved with here and what kind of impact it's going to have on africa and the united states. >> penny? >> well, today is a really exciting event. we have got over 40 heads of
state coming to our business summit. we have got over a hundred american ceos and a hundred african ceos all coming together to, first of all, talk about how they do more business together. the president is announcing 14 billion worth of deals as you said. why is everyone here? everyone is here because there is real growth opportunity in africa and this is something that the president and the administration, along with bloomberg, want to highlight and get the word out. 6% gdp growth the next ten years is expected in africa and six of the ten fastest growing economies. very exciting. exports super the united states to africa support 250,000 american jobs. americans get up in the morning and go to work because we are selling things to africa. but there's so much more that we could be doing and this is why we are all together. >> i might also point out one of our main economic rivals, china, has been doing this for years
now. they recognize there is a great potential in this day and age, you cannot, if you're a good business person, avoid markets that have a chance of becoming dominant. the african market with 6 hundred million people certainly has that potential and china is going in and we are doing it now. >> mr. mayor, secretary, it seems africa is where southeast was in the late 70s and early '80s. you could feel the momentum. we know that american business wants to be there. but the biggest issue in africa, i think, that probably gives business some discomfort is governance. the idea if they invest in there, there is going to be stability in how some of these countries are run. is that the biggest road block right now between africa totally taking off and where it is today? >> well, i don't think there is any case to be made that if people stay in poverty, government is going to get better. quite the contrary.
when people have the dignity of a job of being self-sufficient, they can get a good education and they can make sure that their government is responsive and there's examples on both sides. we boycotted cuba. they are at poor as they were if not 45 years ago. we started dealing why germany. built up their economy. the east german saw something better and walked in one day and said to the army get out of here and took down the wall. where we have a good economy, you tend to have better government and that is the way we should help each other. it's good for the seller and for the buyer. >> we are seeing many, many -- you're seeing many, many leaders here who want to engage with american business. they see the opportunity. what they like is what american business brings to the table. a commitment to rule of law. transparency. treating the people that work for their companies well. as well as investment in the local communities. so there is a real interest in having us more present. a real enthusiasm how can we
work together? and that is an opportunity for both the african countries, the african people, the american companies and the american people. >> elise is with "the hill." she has a question for you. >> mr. bloomberg, i want to drill down into what you said about china. their investments have been enormous in africa and quite flashy as well. the obama administration said at the end of this summit they are not unveiling anything new and big and flash y. i'm wondering how do you think we can compete with china's investment in africa and do you think the obama administration is making the right move by making sure that this summit ends sort of on a softer note? >> andrea mitchell? >> i think no question that america's strategy has always been to let companies go out and compete and make investments that they thought were in their interests and let that invisible hand that i think was adam smith talked about, create a better world and better economy for everybody. china is a much more controlled
economy. they do things at a government level that we don't do and it's a practical reality today, giving congress unwilling to fund the basically road structure in the united states or pay for things that we really need domestically, it's hard to believe that american congress is going to vote some money to do things overseas. the president has to deal with the hand that has been dealt to him. >> the president is announcing 14 billion worth of deals and not like the united states not present in africa. that is just today and has set up an opportunity for businesses to be working directly with heads of state to figure out where the opportunities are. my conversations over the last 24 hours with heads of state, they are saying, here are the projects we want to get done and here is where we would like to see american business. why do they want american business? they like our goods and our services and our technology. they like the way we govern and run our businesses. they want us present. >> madam secretary and mr.
mayor, i was going to say i was at an event that mike bloomberg and others were hosting last night. the fact is that these companies, all of the major companies in america, global companies were there. they were saying the way they compete against china, they were saying to heads of state from africa, is that they can train workers, they can leave and create a great work force. that's is the value added that america brings to the table. mr. mayor, i just want to ask you if, you know, from bloomberg's perspective as a business, what the advantage is in africa? and also before we let you go, i wanted to ask you if you had any thoughts today about your great effort on gun laws and the impact of jim brady. >> well, number one, jim brady was a guy who was serving this country and, sadly, got seriously injured, an injury that stayed with him for his whole life when some mentally deranged person tried to kill
the president and our prayers have to go out to james' family. he has been a symbol of too many guns in the hands of people who have psychiatric problems, criminal records. that's something we have to fix in the country. in terms of your first part of your question, look. american companies will do what is in their interests. i think when you take a look at what this country's record has been in dealing with countries around the world, we are not perfect, but we have done a pretty good job of helping an awful lot of people. >> you know with the presence of the commerce department doubling in africa, the opportunity for us to help american businesses navigate the road in africa is really grown. so we are very excited. today's event is really catalytic and i'm proud to represent the department of commerce to partner with bloomberg philanthropy that i think is extremely catalytic for
new business occurring in africa. >> andrea, let me add. bloomberg, the company, has eight offices in africa. we have close to a hundred employees. we deal with 40 countries in africa and our commitment to africa is longstanding and great for us and i think great for africa and we will continue it. >> madam secretary and mr. mayor, thank you for being with us. it really is. it sounds like an idea whose time has come. elise, thank you as well. greatly appreciate you being with us. andrea mitchell, we will be watching you. >> thank you. >> at noon on "andrea mitchell reports. >> still ahead, three-quarters of people believe congress is unproductive. two congress leave their district as the other side of the country lives. plus, i don't know -- i didn't know she had any interest in me. that's how jonnie williams key witness for the prosecution described his relationship. >> that's the look. >> relationship with governor
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atlanta hospital is awaiting the arrival of a second american today who was infected while working in west africa. a plane carrying u.s. missionary nancy writebol is expected to arrive from liberia. concerns were bound by the outgoing outbreak of the ebola virus and a scare in new york city. yesterday, a man showed up in a mt. sinai hospital after returning to the states from west africa with symptoms associated with the illness. hospital officials say it is unlikely he has the virus. nbc's kate snow is live with us in atlanta. kate, what is going on?
>> hi, donnie. >> reporter: we are awaiting that plane you mentioned. nancy writebol should be here later this morning and much like the scene you saw on saturday with a motorcade and very secure ambulance. this morning, we are learning mow about this experimental medicine that both she and dr. brantly who is already here have been taking that may have saved their lives. early monday a man with a high fever who recently traveled to west africa was put into isolation at new york's mt. sinai hospital. >> it was about seven minutes from the time they hit the door to when they were in the isolation room. >> reporter: the new york city health department concluded the patient is unlikely to have ebola. since last week, the cdc has had more than 20 inquiries about suspected ebola cases in the united states about you so far no concerned cases in this country except for the two americans brought here from liberia for treatment. later today, nancy writebol will joint dr. kent brantly in a special isolation unit. >> their appetite has slightly
impok. as a matter of fact i talked to her husband. she asked for her favorite liberian meal which is potato soup and coffee. >> reporter: the two have received doses of an experimental medication never before used on humans. what is it about this medicine that is working? >> when you and i are infected with a vir us, any virus, we make antibodies to the virus and that what killed it. in this case these are special antibodies for ebola. you inject them in the human being and they hopefully, kill the virus and let the immune system do the rest. >> reporter: the rare and expensive drug is not available to the bulk of ebola patients in west africa. >> hopefully, they will scale this up reasonable soon to get more doses available. >> reporter: there are only as you said a handful of doses right now available of this drug. so it's really sought after. it's not widely available
overseas but what they are hoping, what these two patients are hoping by maybe taking this medicine and showing that it work, that perhaps has will lead to more clinical trials and save a lot more lives. >> we jump over situations like this. what is the worst case scenario here? >> reporter: the worst case scenario would be they don't do a good job today protecting this patient and somehow something gets out, but that is such a doom's day scenario. everyone here will tell you they are going to such extreme measures. they have been practicing for 12 years they have had a unit here how to deal with ebola and this is their first two cases but they know what they are doing. they have got an isolation wing behind the hospital behind me that is so locked down we can't get a picture from inside the room. i think the doctors would reassure you they are very confident if e bow ba la is going to come to this country it's not exposure through these two patients. coming up, the red flag
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♪ a lot of things mitt romney wants to do, like brought into it, right? >> it's very exciting. >> anybody running in a republican primary, you want the mitt romney endorsement. it's true. >> mitt wants to be talked about. he could do it. >> he is doing this. >> no, no, no. >> all great politicians do. >> don't talk to me about 2016. >> one area he doesn't want his name brought up. the names of mitt and ann romney have been dragged into the corruption trial of bob and maureen mcdonnell. mcdonnell's wife who is also facing charges attempted to push a supplement on ann romney. the supplement was produced by the company of a businessman who
prosecutors say brought influence with the mcdonnell's and one of the latest strange and stunning developments to emerge. nbc's peter alexander is wearing a hazmat outfit and he is live in richmond with more. peter, this goes from bad to worse, from strange to bizarre. what is the latest? >> reporter: joe, i think that is exactly right. when we first came down here, we thought this would be not an exciting trial. it has been anything but that. there has been a lot of stunning allegations already. one virginia political analyst describes the mcdonnell's as a beaver cleaver family but these new allegations in many this trial in the second week, including that pitch that you referred to from maureen mcdonnell to ann romney how this wonder drug of sorts could potentially cure her multiple sclerosis has left a lot of people here in disbelief. a sorted tale involving a former
governor behind the wheel of a fa ferrari and luxury vacations and secret cash loans. the governor's key witness wrapping up testimony. he showered bob mcdonnell and his wife maureen with gifts in exchange for their help promoting the tobacco based pill he invented and pitching as a wonder drug of sorts. along the latest details on the same day that mcdonnell endorse the romney for president and maureen approached ann romney saying the vitamin could help her sclerosis. one said i was horrified and thought it was a train wreck. williams insists his relationship with the mcdonnell was all business to help his company but maureen mcdonnell lawyers argue they were friends that the mcdonnell's marriage was crumbling and former washington redskins cheerleader had a crush on williams and an e-mail he is sent after the east coast earthquake. i felt the earth move and he
wasn't having sex. williams is challenging his recollection of his dealings with the mcdonnell's two years ago and he can't recall conversations with prosecutors last month. mcdonnell's team say they were promoting a business but mcdonnell gladly accepted the gifts and this watch that maureen bought to give to her husband. governor mcdonnell is on the witness list for the defense. he has said he is eager to testify at his own behalf. his wife maureen mcdonnell, joe, has said she is not going to testify. one of the real challenges for the mcdonnell's here only months ago we saw them hand in hand and it appeared everything was hunky-dory in wtheir relationship and sitting in court they rarely look at each other and have to impressive on the jury this was a crumbling marriage. so bad they couldn't conspire because they weren't talking to one another. just yesterday in court, jonnie
williams said there was no romantic relationship between he and mcdonnell. he said i didn't know she had any interest in me until this past week. >> peter, thank you so much. i hope you're getting paid overtime. >> that's just a yuck. >> the whole thing is. >> poor bob mcdonnell. >> how about the fact they are comfortable putting him on the stand, which tells you this is a guy who has experienced basically being an operative, a spinner and a lawyer and he knows how to answer questions. >> you're saying bob mcdonnell? >> and they won't put her on the stand, i think is a telling thing. >> i looked at it dimplfferentl. i look at it like it wasn't bob that had his hands -- >> that's what they want us to think. >> -- in the mud. it's obvious. >> i don't know. you know, what really makes this defense seem sketchy is what peter just pointed out. when they first, right after he left the governor's mansion, they are hand in hand and they
look like team mcdonnell defending themselves. as this trial -- as they prepare for this trial over the last nine months, they decide, oh, the only way we are going to stay out of jail is to do this? >> oh, no. i could give an argument as you peel back the onion, it's each man for himself. >> you find out the e-mails that were sent back and forth and you look at all of the gifts and look at the fact that she was interested in him romantically. not a lot of husbands going, hey, honey, that's cool, right? >> chuck, you're more -- >> he let her run rough shot over him and we don't know why. we don't know why. there's something there. i don't know. >> donny, you're laughing. there are a lot of men in america who let their wives run rough shot over them and it has nothing to do with politics. >> that's right. i agree. i think there is more here that we don't know about the marriage. >> donny? >> i just -- i'm stuck.
>> let the defense rest. >> i'm not talking about women. so coming up next, bipartisanship is not dead. in fact, it's breaking out all over the place, i guess. the majority of americans have lost faith in washington, d.c., but congressman elijah cummings and jason chaffetz will talk about how they plan to bridge that divide. keep it right here on "morning joe." ♪
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congress to spend 6,000 on candles? >> yes. >> were you surprised when you saw president obama in the bull pit in the presidential office this morning? >> i was extremely excited. >> did president obama look angry when he was tearing apart that vladimir putin pinata? >> he really did. >> do you like president bush's crazy rodeo party on the birthday lawn or president bush's slip and slide birthday? >> president bush's crazy rodeo birthday. >> joining us ranking member of the oversight and governor reform committee, congressman elijah cummings and from salt lake city, congressman jason chaffetz. thank you guys so much for being with us. it's good to see both of you again. elijah, so you guys actually are trying to get along together and i've worked with elijah, jason.
i know how hard that is to do. elijah, it was always striking to me that we disagree on a lot of things, but we got a lot of things done. i can't ever remember saying one thing negative about you publicly while i was chairman and you were ranking member. we would go back and forth. i think what you guys are doing is great here. i just don't understand why more people aren't doing what you two guys are doing. why don't you tell me what you guys are doing, first. >> what we did is jason chaffetz had asked about a month ago to come to my strict and that i would go to his district, and he came. he had an opportunity to meet with some patients that were, you know, struggling with aids, hiv/aids. he had an opportunity to meet with some of my seniors and to meet with some young people who were trying to get their lives back together after having some -- gone through some tough
times and trying to get back with their families. so he had the chance to actually meet with a lot of the people that i represent. i think he got an idea of what i'm fighting for when i come to the congress and the people that i have to -- that are looking up to me to solve some of their problems. then i went to utah yesterday and had an opportunity to meet with his constituents. i got to tell you that, you know, they have their sets of issues that they have got to deal with and joe had made me a lot more sensitive to what they are dealing with. i'm pretty sure, as i watched him in my district talking to people there, that i believe it sense is a tiesed him to the things i'm dealing with and hopefully that will lead to compromise and help us to work out some problems. >> congressman chaffetz, before you answer congressman cummings query about now whether you're
more sensitive to the needs of his constituents, there are those of us here at the table who remember a time in congress when members of congress, the two of you clearly now know each other much better than you did before, knew each other much i'm good at throwing political barbs. we all do in a sense. i want to get something done. seek first, understand, then be understood. if you break bread with somebody, feel, see, touch, hear, listen to the people, you figure out what you've got in common. i always tell this group we've got to find some common ground
and i liked what elijah cummings said, we can't just get to common ground but higher ground. if we're going to pass legislation that's going to be meaningful, it has to be bipartisan. you better darn well reach out, get out of your comfort zone and actually do something. >> congressman cummings, congressman chaffetz, you may be working much more closely. is this part of forging a relationship so you guys can have a better working relationship, frankly, congressman cummings, than you have with chairman issa? >> i don't know what the republican caucus will do. i can tell you, i want a relationship which will allow us to get things done and, yeah, that's part of it for me. and i'm certain that's the same thing for congressman chaffetz. we've gotten used to leaving washington without getting
things done. and, joe, you're right. when you and i worked together, we got things done and i've worked with other republicans that have gotten things done. there are issues our committee needs to be dealing with. if we can get away from throwing the bombs and really concentrate on why we're there as opposed to who we're fighting against, we concentrate on what we're fighting for, i think we can get things done for the american people. i'm determined to do that and i think it's very important. >> by the way, we got things done, it was good for the country and it was good for both of us politically, too. >> that's right. >> fewer and fewer people in washington, d.c. understand that it's actually -- you know, the screaming, yelling, pointing at each other, that's the short game. the long game is actually getting things done for your constituents. thank you for being with us. elijah and jason, thank you so much.
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join us in an effort to restore confidence, dignity and decorum to this institution. >> james brady died today at the age of 73. >> one bullet striking reagan in the chest, another ben traiting brady's skull. >> the tragedy turned brady's wife sarah and eventually brady himself into advocates for gun control. >> news tonight about the experimental drug used to treat that american doctor infected, now back in the u.s. >> a doctor in liberia describes it as miraculous. >> these two americans may save a lot of lives. >> by her suffering in this she may be able to help countless more. >> a patient came to mt. sinai with symptoms of a fever. >> tests on a man at a major manhattan hospital. >> given the amount of travel it wouldn't be entirery surprising if there would be a case that would show up here in the united states. today's temporary cease fire
was a chance for gaza to bury some of those killed. >> minutes after the israeli-initiated truce began a missile hit a house in gaza city. >> there's nowhere safe here. >> continue to attack 5, 6, 7-year-old children dragged out of dead, who does that help? >> nobody. >> that's wrong. hamas is helped. we can show you previews of what we said five hours ago. donny deutsch is with us, mike barnicle as well. over a million e-mails and tweets, thank you so much for coming back. from washington, national editor of the cook political report, amy walther. thank you so much. look at a couple of quick headlines here. we did this like 12 hours ago. here, of course, talking about the cease fire in the middle east. also the head of the -- that's
"the wall street journal," the washington post also runs with the same headline. and then, of course, what we've been talking about also, jim brady, the face of gun control, has passed away. pass add way yesterday. we'll be talking about that and much, much more. mike barnicle, very important. >> jv. justin verlander. >> and kate upton, still an item. >> still an item. i didn't know that. >> she could have at least had the decency to end it with me first. >> stop. seriously. you know what? seriously. >> how sick is he? >> the truth. >> but, you know -- >> i've got to say, if you look at the new york -- >> post. >> post and a lot of the new york tabloids and also the daily news here. there's a post, two posts, and the daily news. there's the ebola scare in the
city all over the place and many of donny deutsch's former girlfriends hoping he contracts that disease. was that tough? was that tough? >> i have children, you know. they watch this show. you just scared them. they're crying now. you made my daughter cry. >> your daughter in london? >> her name is london. you made her cry. >> he doesn't want you to come down with the virus, but we wouldn't mind if you were put in isolation. >> just a littleby until you clean up your instagram account. >> kentucky senator rand paul obviously juggling for a job for president of the united states. but he's also a republican senator with the possibility that he may run for president. rand paul has been arguing for a more inclusive gop, downplaying t issues. now he's taking that inclusive message on the road. during a three-day sweep through
iowa. his first stop, an appearance with iowa congressman steve king, a man who continues to talk about impeaching the president of the united states. king was asked about his position yesterday. >> i want to discourage the president from taking actions that create a constitutional crisis. if he does that, we can't take anything off the table. and i don't know that rand paul is much different than me on that. i think that's a fairly moderate position and i don't know that our founding fathers would have as much patience with barack obama as either i or rand paul have. >> then there was this awkward moment. paul and king were approached by two self described dreamers after introducing themselves, asking king a question about their stance on immigration, paul, mid bite, takes a cue from one of his staffers and bails. watch this. he's just out.
so, amy, that's one of the problems, i guess, trying to run as a new kind of republican and campaigning -- >> that's good. >> with what some would call an old kind of republican. >> there you go. >> one of the last guys in washington that is still talking about impeachment. >> the i word is what he used. >> yes. >> he has learned not to use the word impeachment. this is where iowa becomes such a problem for republicans as they're trying to broaden the elect orate. they still go to a place like iowa where the turnout at a caucus is incredibly conservative, they'll be on the opposite end of the issues that you were just talking about earlier, especially on immigration. how do you balance that? what rand paul has ton very well -- i think ultimately it will catch up with him. what he has been able to do very well is balance this fine line. he has a voting record that is very conservative and then he
talks about being more conservative or moderate. it works pretty well until you get confronted on it. he got confronted on it, specifically on israel. you talked in the past about cutting off aid to israel. he said i disagree. i have now voted for more money for the iron dome. he brought his statements back and said you actually did support cutting it off. he has to figure out that balancing act not only in iowa but nationally. >> did you see that shirt he was wearing? stylish. he's wearing that shirt, it looks a lot like a rainbow. i wonder if maybe steve king was upset by the shirt. >> he's an optician, isn't he? >> ophthalmologist. >> it's a good look. >> if you're rand paul and -- you know, you're trying to change the party. if somebody says something you disagree with, you don't want to embarrass them in their own backyard but at some point you have to start distancing
yourself. >> it also goes to the brand he has tried to extend for himself, which is a truth teller. not an old guard republican who goes along with partisanship but a libertarian. as you know, i was interviewing him last week. he feels the inclusion is not just rhetoric and feels strongly that he has introduced several sets of bills, legislation to change the way the republican party operates. he said, his words, he's doing more for african-americans than anyone else in congress. >> obviously he is also racing against his past. we talked about israel here. and, obviously, he said some things in the past about israel that caught up to him. he got into a big scuffle for his campaign for senator about seeming to be opposed to the civil rights act. >> at least section two and section seven, with regard to private businesses, which is what the lunch counter fights
were about. a lot of people care about that and care about the details. i managed 19 precincts in polk county when i was managing john kerry. donny deutsch, a big fan of that, always pat mes me on the k for it. iowa is more extreme, more passionate than the median base of both parties but also more informed. you had a different position and it might have dissolved the camp david accords. we know about that. we listen to talk radio. we listen to the shows, read the papers. that's an environment where you're going to continue to have voter to politician interactions and sometimes those are tougher than the media, because you just can't shoot the messenger. >> a lot tougher and he will have to figure out how to square that if he wants to move forward. chris mcdaniel, remember him? long and anticipated move six weeks after losing to senator thad cochran, now formal ly for
questioning the results. good luck there. according to mcdaniel and his lawyers, there are more than 15,000 illegal or questionable ballots, votes from democrats who voted earlier that month in their own party's primary, which would not be allowed. many of the ballots in question also believed to be for african-americans who turned out to vote for senator cochran in the runoff. >> they asked us to put up or shut up. here we are. here we are with the evidence. now, we all witnessed what a segment of our party did in the weeks leading up to. we saw despicable allegations from those that are supposed to be leaders in our party. there is no place in the republican party for those that
would -- the integrity of the elections process of the state of mississippi matters. the -- matters. but, likewise, the integrity of the republican party and its primary system, a party and a system we love so much, it matters as well. >> so his big concern was the african-american voters, it was unfair that african-american voter voters in the republican primary. >> does he have any chance at all? >> i do not think so. part of their challenge is exactly to the point that it was democrats who came out, voted in a runoff where if you vote in a runoff, you're supposed to support the republican. they say these people have no intention of supporting the republican.
this goes directly back to rand paul. here is a party or candidate in rand paul who says we need to be more inclusive. i'm reaching out to african-american voters. i've done so much, tried to increase voting rights for african-americans and then you have this race in mississippi where it does, to donny's point, it's not fair that democrats, specifically african-american democrats were able to vote in our primary. those are two messages that are clashing right there. >> let me ask you when we're talking about thad cochran, obviously a more senior republican, more moderate republican. we have two other races this week where the tea party is trying to get their first real big win of the year. you have kansas with pat roberts against a guy that was posting bizarre photos of, was it, dead people? i'm not sure. and then the other one is in tennessee with lamar alexander. are both those senior republicans pretty safe?
>> they look pretty good at this point. what both pat roberts and lamar alexander did, they were prepared for these challenges. it's not rocket science, to win these primaries. so much of it is just showing up and running really strong campaigns. lamar alexander also helped with the fact that there are a lot of candidates in the primary. much like thad cochran, he spent the last year moving more to the right in order to stave off these tea party attacks and he got helped, you're right, joe, by the fact that his opponent did post some not very good stuff on facebook, when you're mocking patients who have been shot. >> not very good stuff. >> not very good. >> some gruesome photos. >> gruesome. >> not very good stuff. so as a tea party, they can't take credit for eric cantor. so what's the big tea party win this year? >> policy. >> no, who did they knock off?
have they knocked off a single senior republican, anybody? >> i would say they've rewired the way the house votes, though, right? >> yeah. >> it's been that way for a while. >> it's proof to the point, what amy just referred to. both lamar alexander and pat roberts had campaigns up and running for quite some time. eric cantor clearly had nothing going on. >> caught sleeping. thad cochran was caught sleeping. a lot of them caught sleeping. it seems like the establishment was ready this time. washington is remembering former white house press secretary james brady. he passed away yesterday. he was, of course, left partially paralyzed after being shot during the assassination attempt of ronald reagan in 1981. brady became a tireless fighter for stricter gun control laws and andrea mitchell who, of course, covered the reagan white house and knew the bradys looks back on his life. >> 69 days after ronald reagan
took office -- >> shots were fired at president reagan in washington. >> -- six shots were fired, the first meant for the president explode in the head of the white house press secretary james brady. brady had always been known as the bear, big, irreverent, when candidate reagan said trees caused pollution, he joked about killer trees. after being fought, brady fought for his life, struggled to speak and to walk. the reagans insisted he keep the title of press secretary and rename the briefing room in his honor. nancy reagan even joked about reports she opposed giving brady the job because he wasn't good looking enough. >> i kept calling him my y & h, my young and handsome. he's still my y & h.
>> worked tirelessly against gun violence. the brady bill, five-day waiting period and background checks beforehand sales. the assault weapons ban lasted ten years until congress let it lapse. after gabby giffords was shot, again, speaking out. >> still just as funny and -- >> not to mention funny looking. >> his neuro surgeon remembers that fateful day. >> the greatest achievement was saving the life of the president of the united states, walked right in the line of fire. >> he lived for another 33 years, valiant till the end. >> jim brady was 73 years old. when reagan said trees cause pollution, some people would go around and put signs up on trees. reagan's campaign, stop me before i kill again. brady knew how to joke, sort of brush aside the criticism.
he knew how to work with the press. he liked the press. the press liked him. even though the press was fairly hostile to ronald reagan. that's a missing art. >> oh, it sure is. and it's a different time. there were none of the components of the media that are around now, twitter and all that stuff. jim brady had a way to disarm even the most hostile of interrogators in that press room. >> he sure did. all right. still ahead on "morning joe," we'll continue our conversation on teacher tenure and student rights. campbell brown was here yesterday. now we have randy weingarten and former los angeles mayor antonio villaraigosa. they join us in just a bit. israel withdraws all of its troops from gaza as a 72-hour cease fire goes into effect. is it a cease fire or could it actually open up hopes for a larger peace plan? you're watching "morning joe."
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israeli troops are in gaza as a three-day cease fire is in effect. it's completed its mission of destroying hamas' known tunnels. will the truce hold up this time? let's bring in right now nbc news chief correspondent, richard engel who is live in gaza. israel says, of course, that it's achieved its mission. but you have the state department coming out a couple of days ago in some of the
toughest talk i've ever heard aheard. so talk about the pressures on both these sides and whether it may give us a chance for a lasting peace. >> reporter: well, i think you've hit the factors here quite well. for israel, this came down to increasing pressure from the united states. the u.s. stepped up its rhetoric. the state department with that blistering statement over the weekend, after israel continued to fire into gaza and civilians kept getting killed. i think there was just one incident too many when, over the weekend, more palestinians taking refuge at a u.n. shelter were killed. six u.n. schools turned into shelters over the course of this conflict took direct hits. for some people at the white house and state department, that
was just too much. on the hamas side, hamas really bowed to pressure from egypt and recognized it didn't have the kind of popular support across the arab world that it thought it did. hamas, throughout this conflict, wanted to negotiate with qatar. it wanted to negotiate with turkey. it wanted to negotiate with those who are sympathetic to the muslim brotherhood. hamas is an offshoot for the muslim brotherhood and egypt said you want to relieve the pressure on gaza, lift the closure, you want egypt to open its border with the gaza strip, you're going to have to deal with cairo and you're going to have to deal with the new government in cairo, run by general sisi, who doesn't like the muslim brotherhood. at the end of the day, hamas realized it had no choice and now is in cairo, negotiating with general sisi, which it never wanted to do. >> if hamas takes a step back and allows the more moderate or
plo factions to be in charge here in some meaningful way, how will that be interpreted in gaza? >> reporter: hamas here in gaza is saying this is a great victory. hamas always declares victory, i think, in every war both sides always declare victory. but the reality is hamas had to go to cairo and is going to have to accept more presence from the other more moderate palestinian factions because the egyptians are going to impose that on them. hamas has gone to cairo. the egyptians are saying we'll open the border but we want not hamas running the border. we want other palestinian factions, mahmoud abbas' faction running that. hamas is losing something out of all of this. it's losing some of its authority here in gaza and it's having to recognize the power of the new egyptian regime. and it's recognizing as well that the muslim brotherhood's
days when they were the most popular groups all across the middle east, that the situation has changed profoundly on that. you can see the same protests. we didn't see rallies in damascus, cairo, baghdad. we saw a lot of rhetoric, distressful images but the people didn't come out in the streets for hamas this time. >> what is the sense in israel about prospective peace negotiations going forward after there was such a seemingly direct effort to diminish the efforts of the american secretary of state john kerry? >> reporter: i think israel is saying our relations with hamas are purely security based. we won't attack them if they don't attack us. we don't want anything to do with them. we'll negotiate with the palestinian authority. hamas' real problem will be with egypt. hamas will have to talk with cairo and figure out how to open the border.
after this, relations between israel and hamas -- by the way, the two sides don't officially recognize each other -- are broken glass. they're not going to be repaired or put together. >> thank you so much, richard. greatly appreciate it. appreciate your great reporting from there. richard engel, thank you so much. now with us from washington, plo to the united states, thank you, mr. ambassador, for being with us. >> thank you. >> we have been hearing for quite some time now that egypt, saudi arabia, jordan, does not want to deal with hamas. they want to deal with the plo and the palestinian authority. they want to deal with you all. is this not only an opening for more moderate forces in the palestinian territories but also an opening for peace? >> well, first of all, the palestinian delegation that went to cairo on saturday was formed
by president abbas and it does, for the first time, include very palestinian factions, from hamas, islamic jihad, and others. first in the political, you know, life or experience. and therefore what they presented to the egyptian officials over the last two days was a unified palestinian position. we have said all along that we don't want any regional alliances and realliances to impact the palestinian people. and the palestinian leadership has been very clear about neutralizing the pestinians from all these shifts in the region and political dynamics in the region. >> hamas came, obviously, to you all several months ago, out of necessity, to form a political alliance. is this -- the fact that they are now agreeing to let the plo
take the lead -- talk about the opportunities for peace. not just for a cease fire but for a lasting peace. in the past, obviously, there have been concerns that if the plo struck a separate peace with israel, factions like hamas would try to assassinate whatever leaders in the plo tried to strike that peace. now it seems that there is a unified front for -- and can we take some hope from that that maybe we can have a lasting peace deal? >> had israel accepted and also in 2014 we would have spared everybody this destruction and slaughter in the gaza strip. 1900 people have been killed, 10,000 have been wounded. the only thing that prime minister netanyahu can brag about is the killing of civilians and the destruction of gaza. we wanted to start the political
process when hamas accepted the government. we were planning on engaging them in the political dialogue that would eventually bring them into the plo. this remains to be our objective. there is enough pragmatism within hamas, political leadership, i have to say at least, to go along with the palestinian or plo national agenda for finding a resolution to the conflict with israel through peaceful means. >> so you're hopeful we won't see what we've seen before, and that is just a cycle of a cease fire and then hamas being able to rebuild their capabilities and us going through this deadly cycle every few years? >> it takes two to tangle. >> yes, it does. >> it takes two to tango. israel also needs to understand that its blockade of the gaza strip for the last seven years has left people in gaza without
any hope. what do they expect an oppressed people -- when you address an oppressed people through violence, what do you expect them to respond by? >> mr. ambassador, i think mr. netanyahu is bragging not necessarily about killing civilians but shutting down tunnels and pushing back rockets that were meant to try to hurt israel. i love when you use the word pragmatic about hamas. it's a terrorist organization. nothing pragmatic about that. >> what about members in the israeli government who are calling for the transfer of the palestinians? what about members who are calling for the death of palestinian mothers and the snakes that they have in their wombs? listen, in order to get over this cycle of violence and make sure it's not repeated we need to put an end to the root causes. you cannot tell me that this began because of hamas building tunnels or launching rockets.
>> it did start with rockets from hamas. that's exactly where -- >> it didn't start -- >> it has nothing else to do -- >> donny, hold it, hold it. we're not going to cure 3,000 year s of -- in the remaining to minutes that we have. since we just had that back and forth, chi sit here as a supporter of israel for ten minutes and say the things that donny just said. the palestinian people could talk about all the suffering that they've had to endure and theiesilation and the terrible conditions they've had to endure over the past several years. the question is, can we look forward? can we move forward and find a common ground between israel and the palestinian people for a two-state solution that might create a living environment in gaza and a secure environment in israel? >> well, i think we need to look beyond gaza, joe. this is not only issue. i think the united states has been investing a lot of efforts.
secretary of state kerry has invested a lot of time. the parameters of this resolution are clear to everybody, two-state solution based on 1967 just agreed upon resolution to the refugee problem, security arrangements that will not engage on the sovereignty of the future palestinian state. the ball is in israel's court. israel needs to decide whether they want to pursue this path of violence every year, every two years against the palestinians or they want to sit and engage to find a real end to this conflict once and for all. >> mr. ambassador, thank you so much for being with us. hopefully, you will come back again some time soon. >> thank you. >> so, donny, obviously, we could sit here and debate. you're not going to have a guy that's in charge of the plo delegation going out, attacking
hamas. of course, hamas is their enemy domestically as well. why didn't you sit there and scream and wave your arms about hamas, we can do that. what they're trying to do, though, is what happened in ireland. where you actually had guys like jerry adams that basically had to drag the most violent factions of the ira over and -- drag them over, not attack them publicly and quietly say -- jerry adams, still, one of the -- it's just a shock that jerry adams has been able to keep the violent factions in line as long as he has. >> it is. >> one thing publicly but privately, don't screw with me. do not step out of line. and, donny, i know, this is a very emotional moment. we don't want to see this in two or three more years. >> no, we don't. >> hamas is a terror organization. guess what? so was ira. guess what?
there's peace now. >> i got it. >> in northern ireland. >> and it's about the violent israelis and the pragmatic hamas. >> donny -- >> that's exactly what he said. >> what do you expect him to say? >> how do you expect me to react? >> i understand. i am just explaining. if we are going to move forward, you have to understand, he represents a people who have had 5, 6, 7-year-old people dragged out of their homes dead. >> used as shields. >> that does not matter to the father of a 5-year-old child. >> it matters to this discussion. >> it does matter to this discussion, donny. don't talk to us like we're 2-year-olds. we know hamas uses children as shields. we know hamas uses people to protect their missiles and israel uses their missiles to protect people. we understand. netanyahu is right but sometimes being right does not -- >> doesn't solve the problem. >> does not solve the problem.
>> let's leave it at that. >> we'll leave it at that. coming up -- this is going to make teacher tenure seem really tame, randy. >> we got it all out. >> we got it now. now we're going to make teacher tenure seem almost boring. the lawsuit against teacher tenure nothing more than smoke screens. he openly questions why teachers unions are opposed to change. randy is here along with the mayor of los angeles. i'm not going to call him former. he's still the mayor, baby. he's still the mayor. we'll be right back. and thank you for your bravery. thank you colonel. thank you daddy. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance can be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life.
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it's about us beginning to treat teachers like individuals. they aren't interchangeable. they are individuals and they should be evaluated and rewarded for performance as any other person in a profession. >> teachers are the best people in the world. they love kids. they're out there, the best teachers. i think most teachers feel this way. this is not anti-teacher. people get jobs based on merit. we need to keep that merit system going while they progress. we do it in every other profession and we need to do it here. >> that, of course, is campbell brown and david boyce. teacher tenure yesterday. they're backing a lawsuit that
wants to overturn new york state's tenure laws. it's happened in a lot of other states t comes a month after an l.a. judge struck down tenure and other job protections for other california teachers. now with her own take, president of the american federation of teachers, i promised we would get you on, randi weingarten and former democratic mayor of los angeles and former organizer of the united teachers of los angeles, antonio villaraigosa. mr. mayor, teachers are -- some of your former colleagues are thinking you have betrayed them. why do you oppose teacher tenure? >> i challenge the notion we can't have disagreements among friends. one out of ten poor kids are going to graduating from a four-year college. the fact of the matter is in math, we're at 30, when you
compare us to other nations in the world. in science, we're at 23. in reading, we're at 20. we have a national crisis. and for poor kids, kids of color, they're not even competing with the developing world. so we've got to challenge one another. we've got to set high standards. >> and you think getting rid of teacher tenure does that? >> it allows us to have a conversation. i first filed the reed case, the predicate, frankly, for this case. the rest of the city was only losing 3%. >> let me bring you in, randi. i remember you telling me one time off camera you were looking and saw these great liberal icons around the table all basically going after teachers unions. now we have david boyce, the mayor. do you feel like you're on the wrong side of history here? >> let's define what the fight
is, which is that everyone, particularly people who care about poor kids, are incredibly frustrated because in a capitalist democracy, the only thing that was always the pathway to social mobility was schooling, public schooling. that's why people are frustrated. >> by the way, i saw a report today, the rich are going to keep getting richer and poorer are going to keep getting poorer until we make our education system better. >> i'm going to get back to that. it's not simply the education system but social mobility, income inequality. >> absolutely. >> we think in a capitalist democracy, okay, this is the road to social mobility, education. so what happens is it's the right debate and the wrong remedy. because if you -- >> why is teacher tenure the wrong remedy? >> what teacher tenure does is teacher tenure lets people -- i hate the word tenure. due process lets people innovate
in classrooms. it lets people whistleblow. it lets people talk about the things that teachers and kids need. where you are right, joe -- and we've had this discussion so many different times, before and after while waiting for superman, was the system that was broken was the teacher evaluation system. >> right but as far as teacher tenure goes, mike barnicle -- i'm sorry. >> let me finish one more thing, which is this. you actually helped us here. and in over -- jurisdiction after swrurd, we've actually worked to fix things and in new york, this is one of the reasons that this case is so wrong. in new york, in connecticut, in maryland, in illinois, we have actually worked -- new jersey, to change teacher tenure so it is actually not a cloak of incompetence and not an excuse of managers not to manage. >> first of all we agree, it is
not just seniority and tenure. it's also the evaluation system. in los angeles, as an example, about 99%. between 97 and 99% of the teachers were getting a highly satisfactory or satisfactory evaluation. when you asked them how many times the principal had come into their room to evaluate them, the answer would be almost never. the fact of the matter is we have to be able to evaluate teachers. we have to be able to hold them accountable. we have to hold ourselves accountable, too. i don't put all of this on the teachers union or the teachers. there's a lot of great teachers. i've worked with them. there are organizations like teach plus that are really working to reform our schools and to engage in best practices. there are charters, public charters, by the way, not as you hear from some. these are public charters doing tremendous things. the highly effective ones. i think there are ways for us to collaborate. what i saw as the lawsuit as an opportunity to do is to have a
conversation. we have uber due process, the court said, in california. when you can't fire a pedophile who has been already admitted to being a pedophile and you can't fire them. >> mr. mayor, let me -- >> mike, that's one of the big complaints you always hear about tenure, it protects incompetent teachers. >> city after city, case after case, you can prove that. my argument is this is all pro teacher. it's not anti-teacher. how do we do the following? how do we get to the point where parents, who have a child in public school, rich or poor, have a vibrant, electric, 30-year-old young person teaching and you've got -- this is not an attack on veteran teachers, but an older teacher who wants to retire, is not retiring, and the young teacher, in municipal bankruptcies, the young teacher is out the door. >> what's happening right now is our teaching force is hugely changed and you don't have a
whole lot of the people who are senior teachers anymore. the median, the number one -- the most teachers right now in america have less than two years of experience. so the issue right now is actually how do you build the capacity of the teaching force when we're throwing so much at them and how do you attract and retain great teachers? >> you pay them more. >> it's more than that. how do you attract teachers to the school that i taught in, in new york city? so when you talk to great teachers, what they say is they need their voice and they need training. they need to be able to speak. and that's what's wrong with this lawsuit. in new york, we actually did the work that the mayor is complaining about in california. the average amount of time it takes for a tenure case right now in new york city is 105 days. what's happened is that since we talked last, we actually stepped up and did a lot of work to solve some of these problems what i don't like about the copy cat cases, it ignores all of
that. let's work on attracting and row taning great teachers to high-need schools and give teachers the voice that they need to actually help kids. >> randi, thank you so much for coming. hope you'll come back. >> i will, always. >> good. we need to get a big round table and just talk this out. >> absolutely. >> we can do it. mr. mayor, thank you. >> great to be on. >> i'm glad you're on the east coast more so you get to watch the show more. >> i'm glad, too. "morning joe" will be right back.
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with the support of populations in sunni areas are going to have to revamp, get resupplied, have a clear strategy. but this is going to be a long-term project. good morning. welcome to "morning joe." take a live look at times square. boy, does it need another reminder six years into into the presidency, barack obama is learning again this weekend and getting a view of just how lonely it is at the top. especially when you're running the military of the last remaining benevolent super power in the world. with europe still seemingingly to be sleep, barack obama just became the fourng straight u.s. president to launch a war in iraq. america has ordered hostile military operations in that country. i read in this a maureen dowd piece, 17 of the last 24 years. it came from both sides this weekend. democratic critics seem
oblivious through the growing threat, while republicans who attack president obama for doing nothing or now attacking him for -- wait, willie? wait? for doing something. >> this isn't iraq we are talking about. every day that goes by, isis build this calaphate. they are more powerful than al qaeda was on 9/11. >> i'm predicting if we pull everybody out of afghanistan not based on conditions, you'll see that same movie again in afghanistan. >> this commander in chief has no strategy. he has no vision. they are coming here. this is just not about baghdad. this is just not about syria. it is about our home land and if we get attacked because he has no strategy to protect us, then he will have committed a blunder for the ages. >> some republicans are even saying, willie, it's worse that
he has done something. but this time, the commander in chief made his military move because he had few other options. you saw in the maureen dowd column this weekend, i'm sure. maureen said this is a barbaric forces pillaging so swiftly across the middle east it seems like from a sci-fi film. becoming stronger and more dangerous by the day and making president obama's genocide case for him. religious cleansing against christians and shiites and sunnis and a group of people battling againing genocide. it occupies now a land mass larger than jordan. good morning. it's monday, august 11th. willie, we've got a lot of
people talking about this. a story that is developing and breaking news. i guess we are arming the kurds directly? >> update this this morning arming the kurds directly as they fight isis. joining us this morning is senior political editor and white house correspondent for the huffing post, sam stein. a former director of the national terrorism center, michael leiter. carol lee. editorial director of the national journal, ron fournier. and bobby ghosh. welcome to you all. this morning, more evidence that the president has finally seen enough. u.s. officials say the obama administration is now directly arming kurdish fighters in iraq. american aircraft, meanwhile, continue to pound targets there, but a struggle over control of the iraqi government is threatening to complicate the crisis now. a fourth round of air strikes has been carried out against the group known as the islam state or isis and u.s. troops have
made at least four air-drops of aid to displaced iraqis. president obama over the weekend say the campaign strike may last for months while once again ruling out ground troops there. joe, this is, obviously, a limited action by the president of the united states to stop isis in this one spot, in this moment, in this case. >> right. >> but this is a bigger problem as you pointed out in your introduction. it's in syria and iraq. it's not going away. >> it's a massive problem. for people looking at this and saying the same thing about isis they don't want to knock down buildings in new york or washington, isis wants to knock down buildings in new york and washington. this is, again, this weekend, another "the new york times" column i read said that actually religious genocide is the end. it's not a cool of terror. it's a means to an end. >> bobby ghosh, explain what we are seeing in isis, what their
objectives are and what they are hoping to achieve. >> as joe said, they are far more ambitious than any other terrorist group that has come before. they want to hold territory. they want to create a state for themselves. they are calling themselves the islamic state. then they want to kill almost anybody that comes in the way. fellow muslims, most of all. whether shiites or fellow sunnis that don't happen to believe that the islam that these people have. do they want to attack the united states? absolutely. they want to take attack. the west, the united states specifically. it doesn't have to be in the homeland. the united states can be attacked all over the world. we have interests -- we have people in harm who could potentially be in harm's way anywhere in the world and these guys want to do harm. there is absolutely no question. >> no question about it. michael leiter, though, it is pretty encouraging what has
happened in the past two days. the president's decision to start bombing isis shows that they aren't the third rike. they have spread like poison gas because western countries and countries across the middle east have allowed them to do that, but it looks like we are already making some pretty quick gains here. >> i don't think this is a particularly difficult target for the u.s. military. the question is how far we want to go with that. as you noted, joe, they are strong and they are certainly the strongest terrorist organization and army we have faced over the past ten years, but they are far from -- far from this that can't be defeated. i think folks at the pentagon believe within one to three months, isis could really be rolled back with u.s. air power if there is also an iraqi ground
force that fights side-by-side. the real challenge is you can control them out of iraq with some air power, but how far are you willing to do? because without considering syria in the same breath, we can't really attack this at its same root. >> ron, the president took decisive action here and we have seen isis rolled back to the point where the kurds have been able to repel them, at least in this one region. but as this does metastasize and see more attempts of genocide around the world and region there, what does the president do next? >> he's in a tough spot. we are all in a tough spot. the country doesn't want to go back to war. we really -- you know, our forces are depleted and worn out,this a serious issue. we are now, you know, almost exactly 13 years after president bush got a memo in crawford, texas, saying osama bin laden wants to attack the united states. we are getting that memo now. what we are seeing on tv now is a warning that, you know, with every day after 9/11 the odds of
us getting hit haincreased. as you were just told, this isn't just a matter of rolling out of iraq and i wonder if we are overestimating our ability to do so. we tend to do that. are we going to follow them into syria and are we capable of keeping them out of the united states? we have already had remnants of isis in the united states. we had a young man come down to florida and visit his family and go back to syria and blew himself up. it's a scary time. this is a tough nut for the president to crack and he has been underestimating a lot of things on the world stage the last few months. he can't under estimate this threat. >> no. this appears to be the threat that is is not capable or should never be underestimated because it's danger. i don't think can be overestimated because of its goals. we heard michael leiter ask the question how far does this go.
do we have to go to syria because this is the root of the problem? that was part of a fascinating debate. team of rivals this weekend just became rival. >> yeah. hillary clinton amazing in this interview with "the atlantic" magazine looking to distance herself perhaps from the foreign policy of the administration she once served. in an interview she praised the president but said great nations need organizing principles and don't do stupid stuff is not organizing principle. >> stunning. >> a reference to the president. a cleaned up reference to the slogan reportedly used at the white house on how to approach foreign policy. clinton touched on the factor to leading to widespread violence in syria saying the failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who are the originators of the protest against assad left a big vacuum which the jihadists have now filled. in an early interview president obama rejected the idea of
changing rebels could have changed the course of what happened there. >> with respect to syria, it's always been a fantasy, this idea that we could provide some light arms or even more sophisticated arms what was made up of former doctors, farmers, pharmacists and so forth and they were able to battle, not only a well-armed state, but also well-armed state backed by russia, backed by iran, a battle hardened hezbollah. that was never in the cards. >> sam stein, there is nothing that makes me sadder democratic on democratic violence. this is hurtful. it is pretty stunning in the middle of the military operation to be reading headlines like this where you have his last secretary of state calling him a failure and you have the president call his last secretary of state and possibly next democratic nominee for president living in a fantasy
world. failure versus fantasy. but i think probably, the most stunning part of that a lot of ways hillary clinton could have done that, but as we say in the south, she was just sticking a sharp stick in his eye when she brought up that really embarrassing quote about don't do stupid stuff. that was a blind side right there. >> i don't know if she called him a failure per se but she did stick it in the side. >> his policy in syria was failure i. this is what everybody has been waiting for on what plank would clinton try to distance herself from obama and it makes sense that it's foreign policy at this juncture because of what is happening across the globe. obviously, the headlines are terrible for the president and the administration and it makes sense. also it sort of goes by her history. she has always been perceived as
probably is much more militant and willing to use force, i should say, in foreign crises than the president and she runs risks doing this. you can hear the groans from members of the democratic party after this interview wpublished withever go evejeffrey goldberg. with respect to the president now it makes sense to break with him because of all that is happening across the globe. >> carol, you've covered the white house and learned a lot probably about the relationship between the president and the former secretary of state hillary clinton. how long has this been bubbling beneath the surface? how long have they served parted ways on these certain matters of foreign policy? >> well, i think if you look at when she was secretary of state during her tenure, she differed with the president on a number of things.
sam is absolutely right. she was seen as much more hawkish on nearly every foreign policy debate they had in the white house. and particularly on syria, you know, some of us have been watching this, been waiting for this moment when she would do this because this was the biggest split that they had where she, three years ago, was really pushing for arming the rebels and the white house was pushing back and saying, you know, we don't know who these guys are and they are not even capable of using the weapons if we were to give them to them. they really wanted to step back. that was at odds with some of president obama's senior staff. so, i mean, what is really interesting about this is that it's hard to prove the negative. it's easy for her to say this now, and easy for the president to stick to his line outbut it was inevitable she was going to do this. >> bobby, when i read this, i thought hillary clinton understands what other foreign
policy leaders have been saying for the past months or two. yes, the plane crash over ukraine was horrific. and that all diverted our eyes. and what happened in the middle east, absolutely terrible. you could do nothing in july, but look at the horrible images coming out of the middle east and coming out of gaza. all along, foreign policy experts had said watch isis, watch iraq, watch the meltdown in the middle east because this is what is, as ron said, this is what makes us less safe every day. it's almost as if hillary clinton understands this is all going to circle back to syria and so the blame game has already begun for a crisis that is sure to come. >> well, it's a terrible thing to say about a situation that has taken nearly 2,000 lives. what happened in gaza was the past reasserting itself. what you're seeing in ukraine, again, is old russia trying to reassert itself. isis represents a threat of
today and tomorrow. this is something existential not only for those tiny communities that are exposed on that mountain in iraq but a poison gas and virus and use any number of expressions, this will be for us a long time to come. the longer we ignore it, the worst it has become. yes, these are no the nazis that they eventually became but the reason the nazis became the supreme evil was because for a long time the world did nothing. czechoslovakia, we did nothing. he took a little bit of this and that. we did nothing. we are at a risk of doing the same thing with isis until literally last week. >> michael leiter, final thoughts. >> i think the president has to make a case more strongly that we have to be in this for the long haul. we have long-term interests in
iraq. we have long-term interests in the region and we have long-term interests of not being a defensive crouch on counterterrorism and that is going to require the u.s. and our allies to be deeply involved in iraq and syria, despite the fact that it may be deeply unpopular. >> all right. michael leiter, thanks so much and sam, ron, carol, bobby, stick around with us. still ahead on "morning joe," thomas friedman is here fresh off his exclusive interview with the president. you just saw a portion of that. the former u.s. ambassador to iraq under president obama. ambassador james jeffrey asking what he thinks is to blame for the situation there. nascar star tony stewart hits and kills another driver on the track. my gosh. we will break it down for you. what exactly what happened? and what happens next. rory mcilroy cannot be stopped. highlights. his dramatic come from behind victory to beat phil mickelson and rickie fowler.
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." a probe is under way after a dramatic crash involving nascar driver tony stewart left another driver dead. on saturday during a sprint car race in upstate, new york, kevin ward jr., spun out racing side-by-side with stewart. you see it there. ward gets out of his car apparently angry gesturing toward stewart and seemingly
looking for a confrontation. another car swerved to avoid him but as stewart came around, his car struck ward killing him. sparing you from seeing it there. st stewart's spokesman said he would be racing on sunday but a few hours later, stuaewart saide would sit out of the race, sailing the following. police have questioned stewart. they say the three-time champion is being cooperative. they have not, though, ruled out criminal charges. they also said they have no reason to suspect criminal intent there. joining us now is cnbc brian sullivan and "morning joe" derrick kitz who has followed racing and been in his family many years. >> you guys have both raced and this is what your dad drives.
>> yeah. >> let's start with a couple of things first of all. brian washings was tony stewart, nascar star, we see him on sundays, why was he racing on this dirt track in upstate new york? >> this is what he does. a year ago he was racing these cars and flipped his car and compound fracture of his leg and sat out the rest of the nascar season. people said please keep racing these kind of cars. he said i'm a racer and this is what i do. he took his race team and did this saturday night feature and it ended in tragedy. >> i was asking derrick a lot of questions, what was it? on friday? >> yes. >> thursday and friday. we were talking about danica patrick. they say tony stewart does everything because what he does. he is a great driver and can do it all. let's set a couple of things up. first of all, ward, this poor
man who died the other night. he came on the road pointing and yelling and it looks bizarre to us. and, yet, tony stewart has done that himself. you sit there going, don't they tell them to stay in the cars? >> at every race, they start with a pit meeting and drivers meeting. everybody gathers and the pit boss goes over the routine saying if you're in a wreck or spin out or you're injured stay in the car. it's the safest place on the track. it's standard operating procedure, stay in your car is the safest place. especially in the night and the track wasn't very well lit. >> they say tony stewart probably didn't see him because so much mud up on the windshield which makes it even more dangerous to run out into the middle of the track. >> so two things at play there. one, the helmets these guys wear have what is called a tearoff. they have about 8 to 10 then plastic sheets and a button that will tear off because their
visibility gets so impaired and they can't see. that is standard. they have to preserve these throughout the race. who knows at what point in time tony stewart was on his tearoffs. he could have had a perfectly clean one or impaired tearoff. you don't know. so many factors. especially when you're at the apex of one of that turn which is one of the most dangerous spots. >> willie, also looking at tony stewart, you have to look at tony stewart. this is a guy known for road rage and known for running out in the middle of the track throwing his helmet at other people. he has got a long history of this. >> he has been on the other end and we have to be careful between making a leap him going after another ki and targeting this guy. >> right. >> let's look at a little history of road rage in nascar. >> tony not very happy. >> we know what tony thinks. >> we were mad after that restart. checked up twice to not run over him and i learned my lesson
there. i will run over him every chance i got. >> you get your helmet back. your aim was precise. >> i don't give a crap. >> tony, your respect of what happened. >> the kid is an idiot. he wins one cup race and he took us down to talladega twice. i'm curious what that idiot is thinking down there. i don't think he knows what he is thinking. >> after tony went over to question and did more than that. got a swing in there. let's see what steve burns came up with. >> tony, what angered you at the end of the race? >> what the hell do you think i was mad about? he bulb he drives like a little bulb i'm going to bust his ass. >> thank you, tony. >> a lot of threats there. there is that clip that made us all flinch when he said i'm going to run over him every chance i get. he is an angry man. >> listen, i think that is a
little racing talk there. i don't think he is implying he is going to run over him physically. >> but tony stewart has always been a hot-head. >> no question. >> he is not the only one. >> yeah. >> so what is his future, brian sullivan? so much of this depends on your sponsorships. >> yeah. gasoline powers the engine and money powers nascar. the question is going to be no matter what the outcome of this -- by the way, i've been racing for 30 years. this is the worst thing i've ever seen. whether or not mobile one, bass pro shops, go daddy, whether they come back to him. stewart is unique. he is the only major driver that owns his team. no charges have been filed but whether or not you pay your money to put your name on his hood. >> was there anything exceptional either of you saw in the wreck? >> no, he drifted up. he's on dirt. >> in fact, i was talking to you earlier. i said it looked like a clean pass. it looked like a clean pass.
>> which means tony stewart goes past him fair and square. >> if you look at the video, i'm not even convinced he necessarily made contact. >> brian, when stewart is making a clean pass like that, that is where you slow down, let the other guy go past you and you're going to get him at the next turn. >> especially in open-wheel racing where it's so dangerous as you can see. >> on that sharp turn. >> listen. some people over the weekend brought up some great point and a lot of awful speculation out there too. was there any history between these guys? like, i don't know. was there? did tony stewart have a go popr? what is getting the attention is, i can't hear if you have the audio up or not, you can audible hear the engine rev. is there a chance he is checking stuff. looks up. there is the guy. >> the guy is coming out pointing for at least four or five seconds. >> here is the other thing.
there's been speculation about the cars made revving their engines. the fact is the cars have to rev their engines during the caution flag because if they don't the tires fill up with mud and no traction and the tires cool down and it's standard operating procedure and you'll see it all the time. >> we don't have time, but, my gosh, rory, that guy is on fire. >> my gosh. did you watch late last night? they didn't finish until almost 9:00, the pga championship. rory mcilroy wins third turned in a row and fourth career major. two in a row. this is the scene on the 18th hole last night as he putted in to win there. a one-stroke victory. a great sunday. phil mickelson was there all day and finished a stroke back. rickie fowler incredible season of his own finishing in the top five in all four majors. a great sunday. now you can say rory mcilroy the last couple of years and had some struggles and i think the next tiger thing probably got to him.
he is there now. he joined jack and tiger as the three youngest since 1934 to reach four career majors. so he's on that trajectory now. >> how many strokes would you give mcilroy? scarborough, mcilroy, head-to-head, 18 holes. >> it depends what year. >> course of your choice. >> where would i go? willie, i won the masters in '87 the year after mickelson. >> who could forget? ." because mickelson wins in '86 the shadow of jack nicklaus. guys, thank you for coming. coming up next on "morning joe," authorities nap a 20-foot python in a florida neighborhood. we will explain the strange capture next. outrage in st. louis while the death of mike brown is compared to the trayvon martin tragedy. more "morning joe" straight ahead. ♪
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african countries of and nancy writebol will return home this week. she and kent brantly are treated in the united states. they will be quarantined for 21 days. the average incubation range for the virus. the ft. wayne journal gazette. new report says 18 u.s. companies hold 36% of the nation's wealth. that is 27% jump from 2009. in addition, the wealthiest top 20% hold 89% of total cash, leaving only 11% for firms on the bottom of the list. companies among the top 1% including microsoft, apple, coca-cola and boeing. >> from our parade of papers. "the baltimore sun." 24 passengers stranded 80 feet above ground after a roller
coaster stopped at six flags of america in maryland. it took firefighters five hours shra -- >> oh, my lord. >> five hours to remove all passengers from the ride. joker's jinx. they were removed one-by-one with a bucket lift. only minor injuries and back pain and dehydration were reported and unclear what caused that ride to stops. yikes! >> amazing. they gave them umbrellas to shade them through the sun as they were going through all of that. wild one. 75 feet in the air. the breakfast story you must see. capturing a 12-foot long python accused of eating neighborhood cats. it took several police officers to remove the 120-pound snake from the pushes! there is currently an infestation of pythons in
florida in the everglades these snakes can lay up to about 80 eggs each spring! >> wow. >> they really are great for breakfast. >> hide the colonel. >> also from florida, the orlando sentinel. a 9-year-old boy is lucky to be alive after surviving an attack from a nine-foot long, 85-pound alligator. this is our florida block. >> my lord! >> the boy says he was swimming in a lake when he felt something latch on to his leg. he was able to hit the gator and causing it to let go and allowed him to swim to shore. doctors treated him for three different bites. 30 teeth marks. scratches as well and removed a gator tooth from one of the wounds. left a tooth in the boy! >> wow. >> the 9-year-old is expected to make a full recovery. >> you're supposed to punch it in the snout. >> i think he did. the kit jacked him in the snout and saved his own life. >> shark week started last
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like the south of france. >> from the casino royale. off the teletype from mika. >> she is reading "the new york times." writing about back to iraq. from the sunday times, maureen writes it felt bracing to see american pilots trying to save innocence in a country we messed up so badly that it's not even a country my nor, some critics warn it was not a military strategy and almost worse than nothing as john mccain put it. the latest turn of the screw in iraq also underscored how we keep getting pulled back godfather style without even understanding the kuverculture. it creates even more monsters. the united states has taken military action in iraq during at least 17 of the last 24 years. the ultimate mission creep in a country smaller than texas on the other side of the world. what better symbol of the middle east quicksand than the fact
that navy planes took off for their rescue mission two years after president obama declared in war in iraq over from the george h.w. bush aircraft. >> high ironic the president who got elected finding the only guy out there against the last war in iraq is back now in iraq which should show us just how badly the situation has deteriorated. >> yeah. it's probably the biggest disappointment to him. i mean, it's a personal disappointment of his presidency. and this is something that he never wanted to do and, as you mentioned, he campaigned on 2012. i traveled with him extensively during that time. the draw down in iraq was a number one pause line for him and they really touted it. i remember traveling with vice president joe biden in 2011 when he did the trip to end the war. he said we have turned lemons into lemonade. this is a place they never thought they would be.
if you look at what the president said when he first spoke on this, he practically apologized for taking military action. as you saw on saturday he is back saying, well, this could be a lot longer. i think he has got some explaining to do on this part. >> it's accelerating, too, willie. by the way, i support the president. we go in and we do the bombings to save a lot of people from grisly death, but this morning, we wake up to the breaking news that he is now arming the kurds directly. so looks like he is moving towards being all in. said i guess this weekend said we could be there months. >> he said this is going to take a long time. ron, recent history said you can't dip your toes into the waters of war. if you're in for a dime, you're in for many in case. >> we had to face the fact we were not honest as a country as
we got into iraq and we weren't very smart how we got out. we can't do anything about the former so we have to deal with the latter. the problem the president has it was just a few months ago where he called this threat j.v. was only a couple of years ago when he said we're pulling the troops out because iraq is stable and safe and sovereign. he just admitted he blew the call on libya that he underestimated what happened after we got rid with gadhafi and he underestimated putin and what happened after mubarak was chased out. as i said earlier, he can't underestimate the threat now. but it's not an easy call for him to make. >> no. but i tell you what, i think the fact that the president has said what he said about isis and other groups and the fact he is going in now, should show the american people just how serious this threat is and just how serious this president has to take it. no politician likes admitting they were wrong and what the president is doing here. but, again, shows how serious
things are and how much things have deinvolvvolved in the midd east. another unarmed black teen is gunned down and a community is demanding answers as overnight protests become violent. we will have the latest on the shooting death that is causing outrage and unrest in st. louis. don't go away. we will be right back. (vo) get ready!
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welcome back to "morning joe." tensions boiling over in the st. louis suburb of ferguson, missouri. a police officer shot and killed unarmed black man on saturday. police were in riot gear last night as a vigil for 18-year-old michael brown turned violent. witnesses reported seeing people looting and setting fires and smashing windows. nbc john yang has more on what is bringing this missouri community to a tipping point. >> reporter: on the streets of ferguson, missouri, outrage and anger. >> no justice! >> no peace! >> reporter: protesters of difference ages and races demanding answers in the shooting death of 18-year-old michael brown at the hands of a policeman. investigators said at about noon saturday, the officer who hasn't been identified encountered
brown and another man on the street in an apartment complex. there was a struggle and one of the men pushed the officer into his car. >> within the police car there was a struggle over the officer's weapon. there was at least one shot fired within the car. >> reporter: the struggle spilled out onto the street where brown whom investigators say was not armed was fatally shot. >> police shot this man for no reason. >> reporter: p.j. crenshaw who took this cell phone video says she saw the shots from her apartment balcony. >> he is running this body and his body this way and hand in the air and being compliant. he gets shot in the face and chest and goes down and dies. >> reporter: witnesses say brown's body play in the streets for hours. >> i'd like everybody here to appreciate that it took a very long time yesterday to process this scene. >> reporter: the shooting sparked a furious reaction. police responded in force brandishing assault rifles. >> give the serenity. >> reporter: michael brown graduated from high school
earlier this spring and was to begin college next week. his mother has a message for the officer who killed him. >> you not god and you don't decide you take something here. if that is the case i brought him here and should take him from here. that was mine that belonged to me. >> the justice department that responded to calls for a federal investigation attorney general eric holder has instructed civil rights thorns to monitor developments. we have learned the same attorney who represented the family of trayvon martin will now represent the family of michael brown in this case. it looked like there were witnesses there and we heard the young woman give her account of what happened there. you wonder if there is some video. >> if she has the video of the young man lying in the street, i wonder when she start to hit record. >> if there is a camera on the police car that may have
intermediate the struggling. as a general rule you don't push police officers into the cars and we need to get the whole story. there was a terrible tragedy, especially an unarmed young man being shot. >> it's terrible. a lot more details to come on that story. ahead, hillary clinton comes out with her biggest critique yet of president obama, this time of foreign policy while his former secretary of state is speaking out straight ahead. up next, sarah palin tries taking on elizabeth warren over fast foot wages. >> really? >> it goes about the way you expect it to go. "news you can't use" is next. let me get this straight... [ female voice ] yes?
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i don't think we are going to solve this problem in weeks if that is what you mean. i think this is going to take some time. the iraqy security forces to mount an offensive and mount the effective in sunni areas are going to have to revamp and get resupplied and have a clear strategy. but this is going to be a long-term project. >> that's the president talking about a lot going on right now in iraq. u.s. officials say the obama administration is directly arming kurdish fighters in iraq and news broke overnight. american aircraft pound targets there and struggle over the control of the iraqi government about complicating the crises whatever is easy in iraq? a fourth round of air strikes carried out against the group known as the islamic state. four air-drops to 4,000 displaced iraqis. the president said over the
weekend the air strike campaign may last for months. once again ruling out ground troops, the president did, he is now dealing with this internal problem. iraq's prime minister is accusing the country's new president of staging a coup. al maliki is face ago third term but facing calls to resign. he gave a televised speech last night saying he is not going anywhere. >> yes, you are. >> special forces to support al maliki were sent to key areas around baghdad. u.s. officials support iraq's new president and are alarmed by the tone of al maliki's speech. joining us now is nbc news white house chief foreign correspondent, andrea mitchell. >> a lot of concern. >> yeah. one second, andrea. senior fellow for national security studies max boot. author of "invisible armies." associate professor dominique
tierney. and with "time" magazine, michael crowley and sam stein is still with us from washington. >> thank god. >> a full house. andrea, let me get back to you. set the stage a little bit for people just kind of waking up on a monday morning, what happened over the weekend in iraq? >> well, what happened was really last night. maliki is threatening to stay and has ordered his loyal army, even if it's around baghdad, there is real concern there could be political violence today. not from isis, but from maliki's forces. so how can they fight isis with maliki supposedly in the last week letting iraqi forces work the u.s. in a coordinated fashion to save the peshmerga and the kurds. >> maliki can't stay. none of this works with maliki stays. this, obviously, is surprising to a lot of people the thought that one foot was already out the door. is maliki suggesting something
more troubling. >> yes. >> what is maliki suggesting? >> he was suggesting by saying that the army, well, to him, supports the constitution. he was suggesting just as the shiite coalition was getting together to choose a prime minister and finally complete this governing process without maliki having a third term. maliki was suggesting basically a coup and that is what caused enormous alarm last night among top u.s. officials reaching out. they are -- the intel people were working, you know, very, very early this morning to see exactly what his intentions are. >> maybe we should just let the egyptians annex iraq. max boot, it's never easy in iraq. the president of the united states did what he felt like he had to do. talk, if you will, how bad had the situation come until the bombing began and what progress were we making? >> i think the situation, joe,
is about as bad as you can imagine, because here you had this fundamentalist islamist state before 2001 they had taken control of a substantial portion of syria, as well as iraq. >> we show this map, max. they actually control an area larger than the entire nation of jordan. >> exactly. larger than new england. it's a pretty horrifying scenario. they were starting to carry out genocide against the christians and threatening erbil. they were marching on baghdad. my question is do we have a strategy driving owner intervention and i would point you to the words of napoleon who said if you start to take vie a vienna, take vienna. in other words, when fer going to fight these guys, let's do it
for real and a way to have a strategy to destroy isis. >> willie, we always say that. if you're going to take vienna, take vienna. that is a pretty good quote. i think i'm going to use that. >> michael crowley, let's talk about the strategy going forward here. this appears to, the air strikes appear for the time being to give kurds time and space to repel isis. but what next? because isis is not going away. maybe they have pulled back from this region but they will pop up in other places and they exist obviously in many other places throughout the region. what is the over arcing strategy for the white house here? oftentimes if you're in once, you're in for a lot more. >> yeah. i think the overarching strategy is for us to not get too deeply involved, at least militarily. a big part of it is to use proxies. in other words, get the kurdish fighting forces, called the peshmerga and that translates those who face death and have a
record as fierce fighters try to supply them. they were outgunned by i shortstop and can we let them take the lead in the night up in the north. the u.s. is working to restart that anbar awakening that was so pist pivotal in turning around the iraq war and in many cases, you know, we basically bribed them to do that. those tribes are very frustrated and disillusioned with maliki right now and have made common cause again with al qaeda style groups but we are trying to reverse that and replay that. finally to get some kind of political reconciliation in baghdad which is probably the hardest component of all as we have seen in the previous conversation about this move maliki is pulling and still a work in progress.
>> we have syria in play here. when we talk about what is taking place with bashar al a assad. what isis means specifically in syria and how that is overlapping in the border regions there so explain that dynamic and what takes place as we, back here at home, watch washington, d.c. president bush said they were not into nation building but that is what we have come now. a country trying to oversee nation building everywhere. >> right. here in the cradle of civilization, we have seen a decent and it has created a tremendous challenge for the obama administration. assad in syria has, in many ways, cultivated the rise of isis as a deliberate strategy to radicalize the opposition and actually help themselves stay in rule. now isis has swept into iraq. it's a huge challenge. the obama administration has responded with a policy
basically of containment. the idea is not to try to destroy isis but stop them from expand beyond the kurdish region and is there a long-term strategy? i think the destruction of isis will not come from the united states but come more from internal dynamics within the jihadist and sunni communities. >> we talked about this last hour, andrea mitchell. a lot what is going on right now with hillary clinton. obviously, fascinating articles where she is distancing herself from barack obama, especially on the issue of syria. >> right. >> but in this interview with jeffrey goldberg of "the atlanta" she praises the president but says great nations need organizing principle and don't do stupid stuff is not an organizing principle. i thought that cleaned up reference to a slogan the president used. it's pretty stunning.
it's almost like hillary understands, like most foreign policy experts we have talked to over the past month understand, that isis is the beginning of a great unraveling of the middle east. >> they understands it and understood it then. this is a little politically thought. the president is doing exactly what americans want him to do according to every poll. he is not getting engaged. he did not get in engaged in syria a year ago where he said he would get -- if the red line were crossed by assad and when the chemical weapons were used. i think what is really hurting him people want him to stay out of these foreign entanglements but they want him to be a leader. what hillary clinton is trying to do here is show the distinction she had the vision, if you will, that syria was the heart of it and if they did not
arm the so-called rebels fublet th if you believe that they were he said it was a fantasy. one other thought here, joe, and all of the gang, there is no way that, aside from containment and this will be a long-term project if this is supposedly containment of isis but if they want to get to isis they have to go through syria. that is where the foreign fighters are coming to join and they know that. >> they have to go to syria and, obviously, hillary clinton talking about this and talking about syria and talking about all of this foreign policy actually shows that she understands part of the great unraveling. a lot of fingers are going to be pointing and she -- you know, it certainly is clear that she is seriously contemplating a run for president of the united states or else she wouldn't distance herself in such a striking way. willie? >> sam, so much of the
president's legacy, he hopes, i think will be on getting the united states out of the war in afghanistan and iraq. he called iraq war a dumb war if you go back to 2006 and 2007. something he has always been against. does he run the risk of getting america reengaged in iraq? we are on a limited basis right now, but could it grow from here? >> well, if you take him at his word, there is going to be no ground forces sent to iraq so there are limits i guess what the policy will bring us. you're absolutely right and andrea is absolutely right. the popular thing is what the president's policy was which is get out of iraq and leave afghanistan. there's, obviously, debate over whether or not he should have fought harder for a forces status agreement to leave the troops there and what good that would have gone. but if you talk to the white house and if you talk to the administration officials today, they say, you know, these decisions aren't done in vacuums. for instance, arming the syrian
rebels. they point out that they armed the iraqi military. they trained the iraqi military and gave them sophisticated weaponry and what good did it do when they had to go up against isis? they ran and went away. i thought the most important thing that the president told tom friedman was his biggest regret is what happened in libya which is they got rid of gadhafi did you didn't envision what happens tomorrow. how do you reconcile the turmoil in iraq with the objectives of pushing back isis in the northern provinces. >> isn't it something as we move forwards another democratic fight for the presidency, willie, that hillary clinton, if there is somebody that rises up to run against her from the left, is once again, going to be painted as the hawk, at the neocon? the very thing that gotter be h beaten in 2008 she is not
running away from. she is racing to. >> remember a race between her and rand paul. >> i said sometimes she is a neocne neocon neocon. it's hard to find a conflict or a debate in the white house where hillary clinton didn't support some sort of military convention or at least the strongest, toughest stand. >> as carol lee pointed out the last hour there were conflicts when she was secretary of state disagreeing with the president on many of these issues and now coming out into the public eye. we have nbc news correspondent keir simmons live in erbil. what is happening on the ground there right now? set the stage for us, keir. >> reporter: good morning. thanks. what is happening here is the fighting continues about 20 miles from this city of erbil and we are hearing the u.s. has now decided to deliver arms to the kurdish peshmerga forces who
are fighting isis in this area and that will be hugely welcome and through the weekend they will be pleased with that. through the weekend, they do appear to have made some gains working on the back of those u.s. air strikes, they managed to regain control of a number of key towns on the roads out of erbil here. perhaps that is a tipping point. isis thrives on fear. that is one of its weapons, as well as its armor and its guns. practic perhaps the u.s. air strikes are building the confidence here and allowing them to push isis back. at the same time, i circumstances is sophisticated. they are strategic and they will be thinking about when their next move is. there is a lot of heads that will be considering what next move to make. isis' issue will be effectively what president obama has indicated any time they move armory on the roads, the u.s. will move to attack those positions.
so isis needs to rethink what you can expect they will reattack somewhere in iraq at some point. >> obviously, those air strikes helped pushing isis back there. what are the people on the street hope for from the united states going forward as isis moves in around them? >> can i just comment looking at keir's shot, i never expected it to like it does. this city, you could be in the middle of europe right now. it seems to be insulated from the hell going on all around it. set the stage there. >> reporter: yeah. i mean, you know, people are going about their normal business. they are frightened. they were terrified. you're right. this is a city of 1.5 million people and it is increasingly westernized. the u.s. consulate is here and the reason president obama i think felt had he to act. i think people are more confident as a result of that air strikes and the news that the u.s. will deliver weapons to
the kurdish fighters and give them confidence. iraq is now a divided country. if you move over towards baghdad where nuri al maliki, the prime minister, is refusing to resign, there is a much more greater sense of fear. i was there just weeks ago. it is a different atmosphere there. even compared with here in erbil now, and the question about those divisions in iraq, it is within that divided country, the isis was able to thrive. that is still a glaring issue, even despite this u.s. intervention. >> keir, thank you so much. great deal appreciate it and be safe. bring in chris jansing who is live from martha''s vineyard in another world. president obama is spending quite a distance from elbil but, obviously, the president, the white house sent out some fascinating information several hours ago. the united states is going to directly arm the kurds.
what are you examine pg to hear from the president today? >> well, we don't know if we will hear from the president himself today. they have been setting up and sort of giving us a little indication that we might hear from some of his national security team. maybe his deputy national security adviser ben rhodes. i had a long conversation with him last night and to pick up on what keir was just saying. this is critical the whole nuri al maliki piece of this. they believe in order to create a situation where the u.s. doesn't have to be involved militarily and the president has already said this is an open-ended mission they have to get a new prime minister in there and they have to get somebody who at least that a chance of bringing the different factions together. right now nuri al maliki is not that person. i won't say they are surprised. they knew and he had continued to show signs he was going to fight to stay prime minister, but that is what they really are focusing very closely on right now. that, in addition,, obviously, to what we are seeing in the air both the air drops and the air
strikes that military mission. joe? >> willie? >> andrea, if you're still here, it's interesting. we bring you into the mix with chris here. hearing the president and others talking about all we need in iraq is a unity government. that's not so easy. we have been trying to do that for a very long time. al maliki wasn't willing to do it. what are the prospects for that if that is the solution in iraq, what are the prospects? >> it's really tough. they have just announced that the deputy speaker of the parliament has been chosen to replace maliki. they were working on this last night. we were on the phone with officials as they were tracking it. now, it's very unclear whether maliki will let this new coalition survive, whether he will cling to power and whether this will, in effect, be with a coup. clearly we not only backed the wrong guy in iraq but then supported him and turned a blind eye to the fact he was excludeing sunnys. year one he was throwing them out and stopping their payments to the tribal leaders that
petraeus and u.s. embassy had carefully cultivated during the sunni arising. that was the key to the american withdrawal. all of those sunni tribal leaders were completely excluded by maliki and many joined isis and provided the critical strategic help that isis needed in its initial march toward baghdad. >> max, let me ask you quickly. what does the next move need to be from the white house? >> well, i think we need a concerted strategy for breaking the grip that isis has on a significant portion of iraq and syria. and talking about containment i don't think is good enough. what are you saying with containment? we are content to have this exist as long as it doesn't take erbil? i think we need to work with the pressure ma peshmerga and bolstering our military footprint on the ground and having a real counter attack has a military as well as a political component that will break the hold of isis.
i mean, the bottom line is the situation is pretty serious right now. but it is still recoverable. it is still possible to swing the momentum against them as we did, in fact, in 2006 and 2007 during the serge. we have to do it without all of the u.s. troops on the ground but i think it's still possible to do it but we need a strategy and we need the resources necessary to do that instead of just saying we are going to limit ourselves to containing them. i don't think that is good enough. >> as willie and i like to talk about if you're going take vienna, take vienna. exactly! >> thank you to all of you. still head a deadly crash involving a nascar driver has the questions being asked was it a an accident or a homicide? plus a preview of the hard-foued mhar hard-fought races up north. a race that is going down to the wire and may determine who runs
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welcome back. a probe is under way after a very dramatic crash involving nascar driver tony stewart left another driver dead. >> that is tragic. >> it really is. we have a lot to talk about on the back side of this. >> it's hard to tell what is going on in that video. >> it's hard to tell but it's interesting because it's not uncommon to see drivers get out of their vehicles and other examples of this but kristen dahlgren is standing by live. >> reporter: the in its investigation no evidence of any criminal intent but you can imagine just how traumatic this was for anyone who is watching the race here on saturday. you mentioned that video. it's so disturbing that we won't show you the whole thing.
but as you guys were talking about this morning, there are a lot of people asking a lot of questions about safety. >> reporter: it was a packed house saturday night. the hum of sprint cars racing around the track. then video posted on youtube shows two cars colliding. one spins out, while the other, driven by nascar legend tony stewart keeps going. the driver of the sideline carp gets out and in the dark appears to point to stewart and walks on the strak toward tony steward. 20-year-old kevin ward junior is hit by stewart's back wheel. he was later pronounced dead at the hospital. stewart is one of the nascar's most popular drivers with a reputation for colorful language and frequent outbursts. he once threw his helmet at another driver after colliding. >> tony stewart can be a hot-head. he gets into arguments with other drivers at times but, you know, typically, it's not really aggressive driving. >> reporter: authorities are examining video of the crash but
say it appears it may just be a tragic accident. >> an investigation is ongoing to try and identify all of the potential factors for this on track crash and subsequent death. >> reporter: stewart pulled out of sunday's nascar race saying, quote, there aren't words to describe the sadness. ward's family is asking for privacy. the young driver started racing go carts at age 4. but most recently took to racing high-powered sprint cars equipped with wings that increase traction on the short dirt tracks. fans of the sport say accidents and drama are a part of racing, but not like this. now, authorities say that stewart is cooperating with their investigation. there's no word yet on when he might race again. guys, as for nascar, it says it will respect the process of local authorities.
>> kristen, joe scarborough here. any talk already about safety changes? >> reporter: yeah. a lot of people talking about it. there has been no official word. you know, we have talked about how common it is to see drivers get out of the car. so a lot of people saying there should be some type of rule that keeps drivers in the car after a crash or when they are upset about something. i've heard this called a watershed moment. even if there aren't official changes, i think it's safe to say drivers will be thinking about this the next time they think about getting out of their cars. >> thank you, kristen. what a tragedy. brian, first of all, you guys -- look. we are bringing in jeff burton an nbc sports analyst covering nascar and also a long time driver on the sprint circuit. thank you for being with us. brian sullivan is here and derrick kitz who are associated with cnbc who grew up racing.
jeff let's first go to. the first question people watching asking is what the hell are these drivers doing getting out of their cars which derrick explained to us last hour, one of the first things your pit crews tell you, if there is a wreck, stay in the car, the safest place to be. why do guys get out an run in the middle of the track and point fingers? >> it all starts with the emotion of the sport. you put so much effort and energy into preparing your car, running the race and all of the things it takes to be a successful driver and when somebody takes something away from you, the chance to win the race or you feel like wrecks your car, it's a very emotional thing. unlike a football player or basketball player where you get up off the floor or the field and approach a guy urchs t, you the only way to show your displeasure is approach the guy in a race car but he's in a moving vehicle. i've done it before. approached a guy under caution and wasn't the smartest thing in
the world. >> jeff, i'm sure you looked at this video like the rev of us a lot. i'm not a big big fan of nascar racing but you look at it and there is even the question of whether the two actually hit each other or not, whether -- jeff, whether they did anything wrong, whether anything was wrong here. >> well, to kevin ward, he felt like tony had done something wrong. again, that goes back to what i said earlier. it's an emotional sport. people care about the results. you put that much effort and energy into something, doesn't go your way, it's very emotional. so tony did crowd him but it's racing. those things happen in racing. you know? it's part of the sport. so, you know, you can -- five people could watch that wreck and five people come up with different ideas. the fact of the matter is you have those things in racing. you do today and you will tomorrow as far as track incidents. the post-wreck incident is the big issue here.
what happened on the racetrack in my eyes is just a racing incident. >> what do you think happened after the accident? what did you see in that video? >> well, i see a young man that is very upset. he is going to express his displeasure. then the video kind of goes away to be honest with you you can't see what happens before kevin gets hit. i've known tony for a long, long time. no way in the world do i believe that tony stewart hit kevin on purpose. i don't believe that. any piece of my body, don't believe that. i just believe you see a tragic accident and i see a lot of emotion taking over and a tragic accident and everybody has to deal with the end result. >> jeff burton, thank you so much. you were talking about how he should have just let him pass. that nothing really was done. tony did nothing terrible in going past it. it looked like a clean pass. in fact, you're looking at the video again. you are wondering whether he actually even hit him or not.
>> i think in viewing the video, you know, it's a classic slide pass. tony got underneath him and slid up. it looked like a clean pass. if it were a clean pass and the young man hit the wall, no reason tony stewart would even know that it was kevin ward that had spun out or that had wrecked when he came back around. if, in fact, there was no contact made. tony would have no reason to understand -- >> yeah. he was passing him. >> he was passed. >> it looked like a clean pass. derek said something last hour about the strips. >> tearoffs. >> the visibility. >> it's dark. it's night. >> he is wearing a dark fire suit. think about also, too, with race car the thing called -- after dale earnhardt was killed it limits you to make sure you don't break your neck as easily. you brought up something off the air. what people don't realize the track is banked and it's made of dirt and clay mixed. you wonder in the video you see
kevin ward look like he is trying to turn. you can see a situation and i'm not trying to steal your point here but he is running down to confront stewart and can't go back up. because it's slippery and steep -- >> racing shoes are like slippers. >> like wrestling shoes. >> very lightweight and thin and made of fire retardant material and only designed for the gas and the brake and no traction on them. if you're running down a bank clay oval like that, to try to stop, oops, i went too far and back pedal could be virtually impossible. >> looks like the last second he tries to turn. >> you guys are saying you look at that video. you just -- you're going fast. and you just don't have that much control. >> that's right. >> a real tragedy. thank you, guys, for being with us. coming up next, control of the senate is going to hang in the balance, obviously, this year. what happens in the 49th state is going to determine who runs the senate next year.
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crunches. >> let's talk about what is going on in alaska. it is one of the key senate races where we have the incumbent mark begich with his hands full. he votes with republican senator lisa murkowski and he mentions it in his newest ad. >> lisa murkowski and mark begich vote 80% of the time. i don't think we should break up that team. i've been a elizabeth lifelong republican. i voted for ted stevens and lisa murkowski and now i'm voting for mark begich. >> senator murkowski is giving him the heisman and wants him to stop and asking him to cease and desist running that ad. his office said he used her likeness without her permission and featuring an alaska voter who is not actually a republican. kasie hunt caught up with him in
anchorage. >> alaskans like what they are working together on. that is factual and talks about 80% of the time we vote together and that is laying out what we have been saying and what alaskans are telling me they love and that is the delegation working together. >> she said that the photo of the two of you together in that ad constitutes a violation of senate rules and federal law. is that the case? >> no, it's incorrect. under the rules you can utilize that photo purchased by the -- >> you don't plan to take the ad down? >> no. i think it's very factual. 80% of the time we vote together and proven today with the f-35 announcement the delegation working together an incredible announcement we made up a couple of days with opening up an incredible bridge. >> according to roll call, mark begich is the fourth most vulnerable incumbent senator in the mid terms. more on the interview coming up tomorrow.
i heard they had an excellent time up there and a lot of reporter stelg. >> kasie does an amazing job. mark only got elect because of some very questionable investigations against who he beat so we will see what happens. i'm focused more on the cruise. >> murkowski was tough on her. we all recall the tough time she went through. >> she had to run as an independent. >> it's fascinating to think she is coming back to say don't conclude me. >> stay away. >> yes, stay away. >> you're breaking federal -- i wish i could say you're breaking federal law by using my photo. >> i bought that fair and clear. >> exactly. still ahead, the real death valley. the major reason undocumented immigrants crossing the border don't make it out lialive. that story is next. [ aniston ] when people ask me what i'm wearing, i tell them aveeno®.
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>> pretty exciting. >> pretty exciting. cameron diaz, hot ticket. >> was it a good show? >> a few good laughs. you got to see nicki minaj. >> you hated it, didn't you? >> i can't get that two hours back. >> you said kate upton was in there? >> she was great. i like her. >> was she pretty good? like katherine hepburn? >> they share the same first name. president obama has spent plenty of time on the road this year, raising a lot of money for his party, but he's largely been absent from the campaign trail. derrick kitts draws on recent history to see why democrats are avoiding their own commander in chief. >> if the recent poll is any indication, democrats in congress should be wary of relying on president obama to provide any transaction support. the president sits at 40% approval. if president bush's poll numbers
at the same point of any indication, these midterms could be trouble for the democrats. bush's approval was two points higher and americans had a better attitude about the direction of the country with only 54% believing the country was on the wrong track. most surprisingly, considering the wars in iraq and afghanistan, voters approved of bush's handling of foreign policy more than than they do of president obama. the midterms saw president bush and the republicans lose 31 house seats and 6 senate seats. if that is any indication, president obama and the democrats have a right to be worried. >> sam stein, let's go to you. we signed of go around believing that george bush was at 21%, 22%, harry truman type numbers. even in september before the election george w. bush was a point or two ahead in this poll, a pointing or two behind in
other polls, margin of error basically in the same place. i guess the only question is, is the republican standing so bad this year they won't get the lift that democrats got in '06? >> can i digress for one second? i want to talk about "the other woman." i've heard that is literally the worst movie ever created. i'm surprised that thomas roberts was as kind as he was to it. also derrick, derrick is all over this show today. you know, this is the derrick hour. >> it is the derrick kitts variety hour, i know. he raced forever and now he was -- derrick -- >> derrick has strong points. >> and in politics, derrick was like -- i think he was majority whip in the legislature. >> i just want to say that "the other woman" was on sale on demand for $4.99. >> you would have to pay me to watch it. i would not watch that movie, it looked terrible. >> and you'll never get the two
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tony stewart just hit that guy! >> a young driver dead and another engulfed in tragedy and controversy. >> there are no facts in hand that would substantiate a criminal charge or indicate criminal intent. >> what do you want? >> on the streets of ferguson, missouri, outrage and anger, after the shooting death of an 18-year-old unarmed black man by a police officer. >> two very different stories coming from other side. >> hands in the air, he's shot and dies. >> fire and the fury of an unfinished war raged in gaza today. israel, determined to strike hamas right up to the start of an agreed truce.
>> fierce fighting on the ground throughout northern iraq. >> american jets and drones took out enemy targets. >> this is going to be a long-term project. >> barack obama is learning again this weekend just how lonely it is at the top. >> there is no policy, there for there's no strategy, therefore, things are going very, very badly. >> we can't wait for the iraqi maliki government to fight isis. my constituents don't want to see another couple hundred people killed by isis. we should do whatever we have to do. >> as you just saw in that clip, i said a couple of hours earlier, that this president, as if he needed any reminding, six years in, got a look this weekend of just how lonely it is at the top, especially when you're running the military of the last remaining benevolent superpower in the world.
with europe still sleeping through a quarter century history vacation, this president just became, get this, the fourth united states president in a row to launch a war in iraq. america has now ordered hostile military operations in that country in 17 of the last 24 years. and this weekend, the harping came from both sides. the president's critics seem oblivious to the growing threat that is posed not even to the middle east but all of the world by isis. republicans who attacked president obama for nothing are now attacking him for doing something. but this time the commander in chief has made his military move because he had no other options. as maureen dowd wrote this weekend in "the new york times," a barbaric force is pillaging so swiftly and brutally across the middle east that it seems like some mutated virus from a sci-fi film. isis is spreading like poison gas across the middle east,
becoming stronger and more dangerous by the day and making president obama's genocide case for him. isis is practicing religious cleansing against christians, against shiites, against unobservant sunnis and against other groups that are now battling genocide for the 73rd time. for isis, religious genocide is not a tool of terror, it is the reason this terrorist war machine exists. as you look at this map, isis now controls a land mass larger than the entire state of jordan. a lot to talk about this morning. with us now, former foreign policy adviser to the bush administration, dan senor, white house correspondent for "the wall street journal" carol lee, james jeffrey and from the pentagon, nbc news chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski. jim, let me begin with you. some surprising news breaking overnight that we're now arming
the kurds directly. what else are you hearing inside the pentagon? >> joe, the u.s. had been providing the kurds with ammunition through the baghdad government as per u.s. law and agreements with the iraqi military, but now u.s. officials tell us that the cia is directly providing in some weapons, we don't know, we presume they're small arms, even perhaps as high as shoulder-fired weapons of some kind, directly to the kurds bypassing baghdad. but even at that, the kurds are woefully outgunned by those isis forces, you know, who are just a few clicks away from erbil with artillery, armored personnel, tanks, shoulder-fired, gun mounted rockets. there's no way that the kurds can stand up to the isis rebels over any kind of length of time and they have asked for some of these weaponry.
but that doesn't appear to be in the works at all. we have to remember what the president laid out in terms of his current strategy. limited air strikes, which will continue around the erbil area. they have had a little bit of effect. you know, the rebels haven't fled, but they have taken the black flags off their vehicle because they realized it made them easy targets, but that's pretty much the reaction from those rebels so far, joe. >> it's limited, bobby ghosh, but the president started last week by saying i'm going to take care of these people trapped on the mountainside. a lot of people said that's not enough, that's too limited. and i think a lot of us on set were saying last week, well, that's just the first step. the next step we saw was the president bombing isis. people said that's too limited. then we find out overnight the president is now arming the kurds. the president has stepped in and as a guest said last hour, quoting napoleon, if you're
going to take vienna, take vienna. this president, i think, is done with halfway measures when dealing with isis, don't you think? >> i certainly hope so. by saying this is going to take months, he's preparing all of us for this. i mean that goes against all the polls that show this country doesn't want that, but perhaps doing this slowly and gradually is the only political way that he can sell this to an american audience and to congress. >> and ambassador jeffrey, maliki just remains a colossal thorn in america's side. here we go into iraq trying to do what we can to stop this virus from spreading across iraq and the entire middle east and maliki decides to pick this time to say i'm staying no matter what. seems to be suggesting even the possibility of a military coup. >> the news overnight is not very promising, joe. but on the other hand what's happening is the president has to pick a party and a leader of that party to form the new
government after the elections. and that would normally go to maliki's state of law. but what you're seeing is a revolt among his fellow shia members of parliament who know he can't get a majority of votes, particularly from the sunni arabs and the kurds in the parliament but also from many of the shia. this is still a constitutional process. another shia politician and the deputy speaker of parliament is one of the candidates that people are looking at right now, so in the hours ahead, we'll see what president masun does because he has a deadline of today to take a decision on who will form the government. i hope it is not maliki. >> let's bring in right now nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing. she's live from martha's vineyard. chris, a lot moving very quickly. what have you heard up in martha's vineyard. >> well, they are focusing very quickly on what's happening in
the decision about what to do about maliki. the president has more people here than he originally planned on this national security team. he has susan rice, who is staying with him, in addition to other national security officials. they're briefing him at least three times a day but obviously this is an ongoing situation. in long conversations that i've had over the last 12 hours or so with administration officials, they say there is nothing that can be done until al maliki is done. until they make a decision that they can bring someone in who they think can bring some level of stability. we all know how fraught that is and difficult it's going to be, but that's the immediate crisis in the next 24 to 48 hours is seeing what happens there and who becomes the new prime minister or if maliki somehow still seems somehow to cling to journal. >> let's bring in carol lee. carol, you followed this president during 2012. you are obviously at the white house every day with this president and listen to what he
and his advisers say all the time. a lot of inconsistencies. this is a president who in 2012 said he wasn't going to be going into iraq, he's getting troops out. he said that's one of the biggest applause lines. his critics are loving his line to repeat that isis is from the jv team. this had to be a really difficult decision for a president that doesn't like to be cornered, doesn't like to be pushed into anything, but it appears that it wasn't his political rivals pushing but history itself. did the president just get to a point where he understood he had no other choice but get engaged? >> yeah, basically he did. you know, the turning point was there was this moment on last wednesday when the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff joined the president in his limo ride from the state department to the white house. they had a five-minute conversation where he just said, look, this is really bad. and that continued into the night on wednesday and by thursday morning his aides were using the word "genocide" to
characterize what could possibly be happening in iraq and the president decided he was going in. but you're right, i mean you followed him too. this is a president who is so reluctant to use force. he's a commander in chief of the largest, most powerful army in the world and he's defined by his reluctance to use it. and that's -- you know, you see that in the way that he initially when he talked to the american public on thursday night saying this is going to be limited, we're not going in with boots on the ground, very cautious, very pinprick and he didn't even say that he was absolutely going to order these strikes, just that he had authorized them. then you see him on saturday and he's saying dig in, we're getting in this for the long haul, this could be long term, we need to find passage for these people to get off of the mountain. and so he went in reluctantly, he presented it in a very limited way and now it's looking like he'll be in there much longer. >> and we heard this weekend we may be in no months.
let's bring in san sedan senor. we've said time and time again, we don't want to be involved in iraq. we don't want to be involved in afghanistan. they have been a lot closer to my position on these matters than yours. we've had these debates long and hard. but at this point i can even say we need to be involved. will you do what a lot of republicans didn't do this weekend and salute the president for being involved? i'm so sick and tired of the same people bitching and moaning about not doing things and when the president does things, instead of supporting things, when we're at a critical moment, they have got to go on the sunday shows and bitch and moan about a president doing what we all know, what realists, what neocon alike understanding, we have to confront isis. will you salute the president for taking these steps? >> i have. i've said several times over the last couple of days that we
should applaud the president for taking the action that he's taken. we have to ask the question, joe, while these steps are important, obviously heading off -- trying to head off the genocide of the yezidis, heading off the march up to erbil and the kurdish areas and obviously protecting american personnel, all of those objectives are critical and the president deserves credit for working to end them. when you take a step back strategically we should also ask the president what is the game plan for that huge swath of territory south of the kurdish area. what about all those people living in a part of iraq that can't rurkurds or yezidi. if isis weren't on the march up to northern iraq, would we be content in letting isis governing this ungovernable space on that side of iraq's
border. a strategic case for the long haul we haven't heard for the president. he began to lay the groundwork in talking about this is going to be a long haul as we discussed earlier and the steps he's taken so far are important. but i think what the american public needs to hear, we are a war-weary public. look at every military action, just about every military action that the u.s. government has taken since world war ii, the american public has always been against it. this is no exception. the president will have to make the bigger strategic case about what the threat of isis means not just in iraq but what it means throughout the region. >> chris jansing, let me go to you. obviously you had joe biden, a very long time ago talking about breaking iraq into three parts. it certainly seems over the past three or four days the president has decided not to really go all in with all of iraq but at least go all in with the kurds. >> yeah, and to the point that
you were just talking about, as i've been talking about senior administration officials they think he's the best person to make that case. when you talk about he needs to explain this, he needs to tell his long-term strategy to the american people, there are definitely people within this administration who are pushing him to do that. they liked what he had to say when he was walking across the lawn and heading here on saturday morning. they think that the american people understand what he's differentiating. they know that they're war weary but they also believe that they understand there is genocide that is threatened there. they also know that our strategic interests are at stake and that the president is the best person to make that case. so i don't think we would necessarily be surprised if we heard from the president over the course of the next couple of weeks more than we have in previous vacations. he's getting a lot of push to do just that. >> you know, bobby, i want you go to the ambassador with a question but first you look at that map. we can't control all of iraq. it has just been an absolute
disaster. but you look at the northern section where the sunni kurds are. you look where the kurds are and that does seem manageable. and i just wonder whether we -- whether we solidify things up north or help the kurds solidify things up north and move towards joe biden's vision of iraq. >> i don't know about splitting iraq up. i think that westerners shouldn't be drawing lines in maps in the middle east. >> that's why we're in this mess. >> that's why we're in this mess. but you make a good point. we've had a long history of protecting get kurds. >> instead of drawing lines, what i'm actually talking about more is controlling the spread of isis. you cut them off at the knees if you make the northern part of iraq a place that at least is a bit more stable. >> we have a long history of protecting that part of iraq. we did it after the kuwait war.
we allowed it to become much more autonomous. it worked for the kurds. it didn't work for the rest of the region. but the crucial thing and this is what i wanted to ask the ambassador. what is the role of the iraqi army? what are they loyal to? are they loyal to maliki? he's brought out the tanks in the streets of baghdad to try and protect, to sort of prolong his prime ministership or this is the army we trained and spent a lot of money on. do you think, ambassador, that this is an army that can be relied upon to take the fight to isis, or are we just expecting the peshmerga, the kurdish fighters, to do that. >> that's a good question. i think it's a qualified yes. the president does have a strategy that he kind of outlined on thursday and then again on saturday. one is counterterror. he's going to make sure isis cannot strike at america or some other interests in the region. secondly and what we're seeing all the action in is he's using
various justifications, our embassy in baghdad, our consulate in erbil and the personnel there. he mentioned infrastructure, critical infrastructure on saturday, he mentioned genocide and groups of people who will be slaughtered or ethnically cleansed by isis. what he's saying is if they come out of the sunni areas that they have occupied and start attacking other areas, they'll have to do this by classic military mobile infantry columns, he's going to strike them with local forces. the iraqi army can be supported and we are supporting them with logistics. eventually if they're in trouble, we might support them with strikes. but to actually take the offensive in these sunni arab areas, he stressed again and again, you need an inclusive government that can reach out to these people. we do not have that now, we will not have that with maliki. that's why all of the attention is on politics. if there's a new prime minister, the army will go with that prime minister.
half of the units are judged by our experts to be relatively combat effective. so there is a base to move forward on the offensive with our air and logistics and their ground forces if we have the political calculus right now. >> let's go back to the pentagon. hey, mik, the cartoon image of generals and admirals in the pentagon are that they're running around power hungry and mad to go back to war. the truth is, of course, the exact opposite. they're the last ones that want to go to war. what is the appetite inside the pentagon right now for going into iraq for, what, the 14th time in like 24 years? >> right now everybody's attention and all the planning going on just a few floors right below me here, all the planning is for these two limited missions. one, to secure that kurdish area and stop the advance by the isis rebels. the other is to protect those yezidi worshippers that are trapped aboard the mountain.
we're told there is very active planning under way as we speak to provide that safe corridor that the president talked about on saturday to help them escape their predicament. right now it looks like it's going to require some help from the british and the french, who the president talked to over the weekend. but in the long term, and, you know, there's always somebody in the building looking at the long term and it does not look very good to u.s. military officials i'm talking to. even if we resolve those two situations and even if isis were somehow contained in iraq, people here are now looking at this as being a 10 to 20-year challenge, joe. >> oh, dear god. thank you, mik. thanks to everybody. coming up on "morning joe," failure versus fantasy. those are the sharply different terms being used by hillary clinton and president obama to describe their views of what went on in syria. hillary says we should have armed the rebels and takes a direct swipe at the president. the president says she's living
in a fantasy world. we're going to be talking to "new york times" columnist thomas friedman who sat down with the president for a revealing interview next. first, here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. as we look towards the west the fire season continues in full swing. we now have 37 large active fires on the ground. last week we had about 27 or so, so we're starting to hit the peak of the fire season out west. this one fire outside of san francisco, not in san francisco of course but about an hour's drive outside of san francisco, only about 35% contained. there is a lot of active flames. the temperatures lately are not helping, and especially in the pacific northwest. today will be a very dangerous day, especially up there in oregon. look how hot it's going to be. the one section of the country, really the only section of the country that's had a hot summer has been the northwest. 99 in portland today, boise at 98. we haven't even come close to those temperatures in even washington, d.c., this summer. as far as the rest of the country, another shot of cool
air coming down from the north. it's not cold but it's definitely not summer-like either. especially at night you feel it. i know we've all saved a lot of money in the east on our ac bills but maybe a couple more beach days would be nice. today in chicago the rain is ending, temperatures will be cooler for you and a lot of rain heading for toledo, also detroit and portions of the ohio valley will get soaked. if you have any travel plans late in the afternoon, those thunderstorms could cause delays in the southeast and also in sections of kentucky. here's a look at chicago. there is beautiful weather on your way, but that's fall, isn't it? 78 and sunny and at night in the 50s. what a crazy summer it's been there in the great lakes after your horrible, horrible winter. we leave you with a shot of washington, d.c. low humidity continues but of course it doesn't have any effect on that miserable traffic. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality
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we are the strongest military, we have the most dynamic economy. the thing that's going to hold us back is going to be us, and if we make good decisions, then we will continue to be not only the dominant power but a benevolent force around the world. >> are we making good decisions, though? because i feel and i look at washington from abroad. it feels like we kick around this country like it's a football, and it's not a football. it's actually a faberge egg. we can drop it, we can break it.
enough dysfunction on all these core issues that you talked about and that's what i worry about. i feel like we're saying to the world do as we say, not as we do, not like we used to. >> i would distinguish between american society and american politics. the truth is that countries should continue to do as we do. we still set a pretty darn good example. >> that was part of thomas friedman's interview with president barack obama, the "new york times" columnist joins us now from pebble beach. you're at pebble beach. i just have to ask a question, thomas. you are getting out golfing at pebble beach, are you not? >> you better believe it, joe. it's vacation time. >> the president can deny it, you will not. it is even no nongolfers, you are in one of the most beautiful parts of the country. so let's talk about your interview with president obama. absolutely fascinating, especially if you team it up
with jeffrey goldberg's interview with hillary clinton. there's a lot of back and forth going on here where hillary is attacking the president for not doing enough in syria. tell us what the president told you about hillary's view that if we had gotten into syria earlier, then things would have been better. what did he call that? >> well, he made a couple of points. he wasn't specifically responding to her. but that, number one, that it was a fantasy to believe that the kind of barely organized opposition there, which was largely professional, secular, middle class people, at the end of the day armed or not would have stood up against an assad regime backed by russia, backed by iran and supported by hezbollah. backed by iran that's had 20 years of building networks of support for the regime there and iran that does not have to worry about congressional oversight. he just believes that in the end they would have eaten them alive
and we just would have ended up getting a lot more people killed or being drawn in ourselves. >> so bobby ghosh is with us and has a quick question for you just to follow up on that. bobby. >> tom, if it was a fantasy then, why is his administration now talking about training and arming the free syrian army? what has changed the calculus? surely the situation has become even more complicated than it was three years ago? >> well, it'mas of their program. so ask yourself this. how is it that 16,000 muslims have marched to syria from all over the muslim world to fight for jihadism and how many have marched there to fight for pluralism. i think i could count them on one. >> and right. tom, obviously the situation now, as bobby just said, a lot more difficult than it was a ye year, year and a half ago. would it have been a less difficult task, a less difficult lift if the president had gone
in earlier? i'm not making hillary's point, i'm not arguing, i'm asking you as a man who's been studying this region longer than most of us, a lot longer than most of us, was there an opportunity missed by the united states of america before 150,000 people were killed? >> let me answer that sort of in a broadway, joe. actually if you look at it, we tried three different options. we tried going in and taking over an entire country, iraq. doing far more than arming the opposition, we took it over with armed military and spent six, seven years, billions of dollars trying to train them. that didn't work. it didn't work because the politics wasn't there. then in libya we said we're not going to do that, we're just going to decapitate the regime and not go in at all. that didn't work because the underlying politics wasn't there. now people are saying that had we just armed the opposition that would have worked. and i just don't believe it.
>> so, tom what, do we do? what is the thomas friedman doctrine moving forward? we were just talking about the hillary doctrine. we decide the hillary doctrine is just to get elected president. right now everything seems to be ad hoc. so what is the tom friedman doctrine? >> so here's the two conclusions i've drawn from the last decade in iraq. one is, joe, sometimes the necessary is impossible, or it's impossible at any cost that we are willing to pay. that's number one because basically you are having -- you're seeing states fall apart and i think the only way to really rebuild them is an international force to come in and stay for 20, 30 years, okay. so sometimes the necessary is impossible. and the other point you have to take note of is, number two, is that the two most successful arab spring nations are the two countries we've had nothing to do with.
tunisia and kurdistan. we helped the kurds early on but the people there came together in a no vanquish formula and they built the politics that could support a state which we can then come in and support. >> tom, let's talk about another ugly reality we've all had to face over the past decade. i was extraordinarily concerned about -- like i'm sure you were -- what had been going on for egypt for 20, 30 years. they are our closest ally but there are a lot of things that made us extraordinarily uncomfortable during mubarak's reign. we have the arab spring and now what we've realized is that sometimes if you want order, sometimes the alternatives aren't really that good. a pluralistic democracy sometimes leads to absolute chaos in some of these middle
eastern countries. that's something that i think we're all having to grapple with. let me ask you about the international force. >> can i say something about that? >> sure. >> because it's a very important point you're making and i'm as guilty of this as anyone. we thought starting with egypt that the alternative to atalk kraes was democracy. and it's turned out the alternative has been disorder. >> chaos, absolute chaos. >> unless you have some internal force or external force that can manage that disorder and basically build a bridge to a different order, which is very expensive, takes a long period of time and also takes people who know what they're doing, what the players are. if there's anything we should have learned from iraq, people are saying we should have done this in syria, it is that we don't know what the hell we're doing. >> what we have had to say right now in august of 2014 is that the question is the world better off, is iraq better off with
saddam hussein dead and in a grave instead of running iraq. that question is even up in the air right now, which is something i thought i would never say. and i know it's something you thought you would never say. i want to get to this international force really quickly, though. europe has been on a vacation from history since 1991. they do absolutely nothing. and as bobby ghosh pointed out during the break, it is the europeans who face the gravest threat from isis. not us. what is it, by a factor of ten, there are ten times as many europeans that are -- have joined up isis to create havoc in their homeland, and yet the europeans seem willing to do doing. to do nothing on ukraine, to do nothing on putin, to do nothing on iraq, to do nothing on syria, to do nothing. it might just be all of these things that you're bringing up,
might be just a little more manageable if the europeans would actually be interested in more than just the bottom line. and if the united states would do more of what the president is saying an basically tell them to go straight to hell, build your own militaries. you know what, it's not 1945 anymore. >> well, you know, joe, the burden-sharing here or the lack of it at the scale we need is obviously a huge problem. but i want to go back to something we talked about earlier, and this is really what i founding is underlying the president's thinking and it certainly has affected mine. the middle east only puts a smile on your face when it starts with them. the anbar uprising started with them. the camp david peace process started with them. and without a group of iraqis who are ready to come together and build a political platform of sharing power, any force we
put on that -- yes, we can kill bad things and suppress different things for a while but without that underlying political consensus, nothing good will happen. that's why none of these others, searia, libya, by saying if we'd only armed the rebels, this isn't about who you give guns and training to, it's about the will of the people to live together. >> as jim miklaszewski and dan senor and bobby gosh just agreed, this may be a 20-year project in iraq. and who has an appetite for that, especially if, as you're saying, tom, the iraqis don't even have an appetite for pluralistic society. tom, stay with us, we'll be playing more of your fascinating interview with president obama and why he says democrats are reason based and republicans are mired in, quote, wacky ideological nonsense. the president's words, not mine. keep it right here on "morning joe." savings accounts?
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and i have to say here, you know, i've been speaking in generalities and trying not to be too political. but that extremism position is much more prominent in the republican party than the democrats. democrats have problems, but
overall if you look at the democrat consensus, it's a pretty common sense mainstream consensus. it's not a lot of wacky ideological nonsense. and by the way, it generally is fact based and reason based. we're not denying science, we're not denying climate change. we're not pretending that somehow having a whole bunch of uninsured people is the american way. we're doing things that are pretty sensible. >> let's bring thomas friedman back in. a fascinating enter view. i don't even know where to begin with that answer. as you were listening to that answer, is this a president gearing up for a very important midterm election in 2014 or did you sense that's the president we're going to have through the end of 2016? >> this interview was almost entirely focused on foreign
policy. that was the only real comment about domestic politics. so i think it speaks for itself, i think. it's out of my lane, but i'll let you handle that lane. >> i'm hoping that he was just being partisan, but unfortunately i think he really believes that. let's talk about israel. the president also said israelis have a right to defend themselves, but also to live side by side with the palestinians. let me play a clip of what the president had to say. >> because israel is so capable militarily, i don't worry about israel's survival. others can cause israel pain. it's a really bad neighborhood. israel is going to survive, that's not the issue. i think the question really is
how does israel survive. and, you know, how can you create a state of israel that maintains its democratic and civic traditions. how can you preserve a jewish state that ialso reflective of the best values of those who founded israel. >> dan senor has a question. >> hey, tom, the president said in you're interview that prime minister netanyahu is so strong. is he so strong politically that that creates an obstacle with the palestinians. one of the reasons that he is so strong right now is he not only has the support of the right in israel but actually he has the support of the center left after this gaza operation. you have the justice minister who's very liberal, so isn't there something to the fact that he's built some kind of consensus and it's not just a
strong right wing political prime minister? >> dan, it's a good question. as you know, though, this consensus is very much a product of this specific context of israel facing rocket attacks from hamas. and there you have a wall-to-wall -- nearly wall-to-wall support for the president. i think you'll see that consensus break down almost immediately once there's a cease-fire and diplomatic negotiations begin over how do we actually resolve the gaza situation so we don't return to more missiles. the consensus will fraction in two ways. his right wing critics, because he's very much in the center, if not the left, will say he failed. he didn't finish hamas off in gaza. and his center and left wing critics will say you really don't have a solution for gaza unless you can bring the west bank palestinian authority back into gaza to control the borders, to manage some level of
demilitarization and that won't happen unless you resume the peace process. so bb has a lot of support today in terms of responding to hamas rockets but that is going to quickly fracture as soon as we enter the negotiations. >> thomas, we have to go but i have to ask real quickly, you've been following this so long. do you think the tragedies that we saw unfold in july in gaza give us an opening to peace with a weakened hamas, strengthened netanyahu. is there an opening to peace? >> you know, joe, i really think there is because people have got a glimpse of the next war and the next war and the next war. we've had a lot of leaders that have been dog paddling in the rubicon. they say, joe, i'm coming, i see you there, but they're actually dog pamgddling and that's got t stop. >> thomas friedman, an
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this is the fox report. i am molly line, in for harris faulkner. the crisis in the middle east reaches the three week mark with no sign of end to the violence. hopes for a long time ceasefire in gaza dashed. israel and hamas resuming full scale attacks that reportedly left more than 1,000 dead. ban ki-moon is urging the rivals to accept a 24 hour truce. it appears both sides are holding out. >> hamas has broken five ceasefires.
they rejected all of them, violate all of them, including two humanitarian ceasefires in the last 24 hours. >> the ceasefire is something we wanted, we have a government of national accord. we asked for ceasefires. we need a ceasefire that will bring out also end to the conditions that are creating and generating all this violence. >> meantime, president obama and prime minister netanyahu spoke by phone today. the president once again condemned attacks by hamas and reiterated israel's right to defend itself. he also expressed growing concern about loss of life on both sides. steve centanni has more. >> reporter: with terms of ceasefire being disputed, it triggered a war of words on the sunday talk shows today. on the israeli side, prime minister netanyahu accused palestinians of violating their own ceasefire and he acknowledged that international
public opinion may be turning against israel because so many palestinian civilians have been killed, but for this, netanyahu blames the palestinians themselves. >> any of these regrettable tragic civilian casualties should be placed at the responsibility of hamas. hamas is a terrorist organization, ruthless terrorist organization that not only wants to kill our people, it wants to sacrifice its own people. it uses them as human shields. >> netanyahu says the israelis have done all they can to avoid casualties. u.s. secretary of state john kerry returned home after getting a long term ceasefire. but diplomatic efforts continue. the palestinians claim the first step is for israel to end the siege of gaza. >> the violence is generated by a very abnormal condition called israeli military occupation. they value our lives and rights, they persist on bombing and
shelling people, civilians, and then blame the victims. >> palestinians also say they're surprised to hear netanyahu talk about protecting civilians when more than 1,000 have been killed in gaza in the past three weeks, most of them civilians. molly? >> steve, thank you very much. more than three years after the down fall of moammar gadhafi, libya is having one of the worst bouts of violence and lawlessness. death and destruction as they battle for control of the country's eastern regions. today alone, more than 40 report killed, including civilians. many more wounded from rockets crashing into homes. the fiercest around tripoli airport and benghazi. foreigners and locals now fleeing their homes as the situation becomes increasingly dangerous. earlier, the british embassy and convoy was attacked, wounded no
one. the growing threat prompted us to shut down the u.s. embassy. they were evacuated to tunesia under tight military guard. secretary of state john kerry says the embassy isn't being shut down permanently, but diplomatic activities are suspended for now. tourists are also advised to steer clear of libya. turning to the growing crisis in ukraine, government forces launching a major campaign against pro-russian militants, troops close in on a key rebel strong hold, in hopes of gaining control of an area where malaysia airlines flight 17 was shot down, killing all 298 on board. increasing fighting forces dutch and australian police to search the crash site, which investigators complain has already been compromised. steve harrigan, live from ukraine. what progress did investigators
make today? >> reporter: it was the first day for 30 dutch unarmed police to reach the scene and hopefully begin to provide some security for the international investigators. instead, on route to the scene because of heavy fighting, they had to turn around. more than 220 bodies from the crash site have been taken out of eastern ukraine to the netherlands where identification process has begun. for the few experts that have reached the site and done some research, they say there are more remains and body parts to be found. still has a long way to go and no progress today because of fighting, molly. >> steve, what's the latest on what u.s. officials are doing about russia's involvement in the fighting? >> reporter: a phone call today from u.s. secretary of state john kerry to sergei lavrov. he asked the russians to stop sending heavy military equipment, tanks and carriers
over the border to russian back rebels. he urged the russian toss stop. mr. lavrov denied that was taking place, mr. kerry didn't accept that denial. diplomatic pressure to stop the russians. the state department releasing satellite images of what it says is evidence of russian military forces firing on ukrainian positions from within russian territory. russian officials deny they're doing so. they say the pictures and attempt is a smear campaign against russia by the west. molly, back to you. >> thank you, steve, from the ukraine. appreciate you keeping us up on the conflict and diplomatic efforts as well. the first relatives to visit the crash site are coming from australia. this couple placing a wreath of flowers for their 25-year-old daughter who was on board and whose remains weren't yet recovered. >> we cried a lot. that's why we promised her the first thing when we heard this,
we said how could she survive this. we promised our daughter we will come here. actually as soon as possible, there was a time factor, yeah. we should have come here the minute it happened. the next day. >> those parents also went to the netherlands, providing dna samples for those investigating the remains. the immigration crisis continues on the southern border as washington is divided on how to solve this complex problem. democrats and republicans say something must be done soon, but when it comes to strategy and how much money to spend, our nation's leaders cannot find common ground, this as congress's summer recess looms. leland vitter has more from washington. >> reporter: it seems the only thing republicans and democrats agree on is that this is a problem. what needs to be done, much less how to do it or how to pay for it is a continuing battle. there has been much discussion
about president obama's handling things with an executive order or drastically changing policy unilaterally when it comes to immigration. republicans of congress don't like that idea in the least. even in congress. there are competing bills about various solution. the democrats are willing to give him most of what he wants. house republicans say they can solve the problem of thousands of minors coming across the border for much less. >> not writing a blank check but solve the problem. >> the american public wants us to have an orderly border. right now they see chaos at the border, number one. number two, keep in mind that president obama on june 30th sent a letter asking for money and a policy change. >> while the debate makes for fodder on sunday shows, there's been precious little progress toward the deal, much less the grand bargain on immigration
reform that president obama wants. house recesses summer vacation later this week. now it is crunch time, for there to be progress rather than motion. only time will tell if that happens. molly? right now, firefighters are battling raging wildfires that are destroying homes, forcing hundreds of evacuations. the latest on fires burning in several states. is the crisis on the border growing bigger as congress is about to go on a five week break, even though there seems to be no solution in sight. fox news political insiders are here and we want to hear from you. should congress stay in session until they hammer out some sort of deal? post responses by tweeting @mollylinefnc.
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moving into some big cities. in the great lakes, we have several severe thunderstorm warnings as the front continues to press eastward, a very strong cold front interacting with warm, unstable air, and that's giving us the threat for severe weather. for all of the big cities into the overnight tonight, including d.c., up to new york and boston, hail, damagingwinds, and yes, tornadoes. really, the state of tennessee needs to be on alert for the next several hours. then as we go into monday, the threat diminishes. but overnight tonight, if you live in those areas shaded in yellow, as i pointed out, across the ohio river valley, tennessee river valley, pay very close attention to your weather authorities. your current temperatures, extremely warm across the southern and central u.s. 103 in phoenix as well. you can see where cooler, dryer air is interacting with that.
potential super cells for the evening. ahead of the front, memphis is 104. behind that, cool, dry air. that's one of the ingredients needed for severe weather. through the evening, ohio river valley, tennessee river valley, the state of tennessee now into portions of virginia and north carolina on alert for tornadoes. back to you. >> thank you, important warnings. this just in in california. they tell us eight people have been struck by lightning on a popular venice boardwalk on santa monica bay. at the same time, we get a report a ninth person was hit by lightning on catalina island, 22 miles off the l.a. coast. the conditions of people hurt in venice we don't yet know. the victim on catalina, a 57-year-old man is said to be in stable condition. the lightning strikes happened
during a series of thunderstorms. rare for southern california this time of year. and this is also a fox news alert. out of control wildfires, burning out west, forcing people from homes and scorching several states. dominic de-natale has more. >> reporter: hey there. been quite a weekend for wildfires. let's show you a map of where the main concern is in california. the sierra, nevada hills. we have the sand fire. it consumed ten homes, six square miles of land consumed by the flames so far. that doesn't sound large, but this is a tough one. it is also effecting california's wine growing region. canyons of eldorado burning since friday. an area hit in 2009. people panic how it could effect california's precious wine
industry. listen. >> vineyards are going to be lost, and that's devastating to a.m. door and eldorado county. we can't afford it, nobody can. we are challenged by mother nature every day. >> 35% of the sand fire contained so far. they expected it to grow in size today. we will have data on that shortly. we have triple digit heat. this has been so far one of the hottest years on record for california. mother nature, firefighters saying, is not to be on california's side. >> this is going to be happening all over. i don't think it is specific to the area, this is what we are going to see across northern california until we get significant rain. >> reporter: and one of the other fires going on at the moment is 400 firefighters battling a 2100 acre fire in yosemite national park. the second time in a year
yosemite was hit by flames. 45 homes under evacuation. most of those housing for workers in the park itself. good news in washington state, the carlton complex fire. two-thirds of that now contained. and should be wet weather and cooler temperatures helping fan the flames there, that's the only bit of good news we're having as we gear up for the main firefighter season this fall. back to you. >> thank you for keeping us up to date on the fires. we are getting reports that two americans, one a doctor, have been infected with one of the world's deadliest diseases. plus, two years after a disaster at sea, the costa concordia making its final journey.
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two american health workers in liberia are reportedly being treated for one of the world's deadliest diseases, ebola. you can see him on the right. he was treating victims of the largest ebola outbreak on record, responsible for nearly 700 deaths in west africa. health workers face enormous risk of contracting the virus. yesterday it killed one of the country's most high profile doctors and a doctor from uganda died earlier this month. the ill fated costa concordia struck a reef in 2012, capsized, killing 32 people. today after a slow five day voyage, they pulled the massive vessel into port. that's where it first set sail in 2007 and where it will eventually be scrapped.
it ends a grueling salvage operation that involved pulling it upright without hurting the environment. the ship's captain, blamed for sailing too close to shore, is now being tried for manslaughter. he is also accused of abandoning his ship while hundreds of passengers fought for their lives. and now a bitter family feud is spoiling business at a popular super market chain in the northeast. began decades ago. two cousins whose family owns the market basket. the dispute spilled into stores with employees and delivery workers calling for a boycott. now once loyal customers are listening, they're taking their business elsewhere. brian yennis is here with the latest on this. >> very unusual. they have been battling over control of the market basket
chain for nearly 30 years. last month, long time ceo arthur t was fired. a decision supported by his rival cousin and opposing family members. well, that ousting led to protests and boycotts at many of the 71 stores over the last week. hundreds, even thousands of loyal customers and employees demanding he be reinstated as ceo. store shelves empty, drivers refusing to deliver groceries. loyal customers taking their business elsewhere, taping receipts from competitors to market basket windows. the super market is reportedly losing millions of dollars in sales. >> we're going to keep protesting until we have artie t back. whenever he comes back we start working again. >> he is credited for keeping prices low, creating a family atmosphere, and paying employees well above the industry standard. >> other than my father, i have no more respect for a man that
walks on this earth than arthur for how he has treated me and all of you. >> he offered to buy it from arthur s. the board will seriously consider his proposal, and the company is asking employees to come back friday, please end the strike. there will be no penalty or discipline for any associate who joins in what will be a significant effort to return to the unpar elderly level of performance and customer service that have been hallmarks of the brand. employees say they won't stand down until arthur t is reinstated, saying quote, we will work for no other ceo. >> i tell you, i live in massachusetts. fly back and forth here to new york. pictures of this have been incredible, aerial shots, the amount of people involved in this. it galvanized people. >> a lot of them worked for
decades, have been brought into the family feud. they believe if the company is given to arthur s, he will sell to outside suitors and it will no longer be the family member they had for decades, part of who they are. it is personal for hundreds of thousands in the communities. >> thank you for the inside look. a massachusetts town is flooding with mail to wish a sick boy a happy 6th birthday. ♪ >> he was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor. he asked for cards because he loves to get mail. boy did his wish come true. >> how many people across the world can come together and care about one child. >> with all the sadness we have in our lives now, it is amazing to see him so happy.
>> danny wasted no time, dug right in. some 100,000 cards and packages from all around the globe. after a break for cake, he got right back to work. he even received a special birthday message from marines in afghanistan. well, israel and hamas are resuming their fighting, as hopes for a ceasefire are shattered once again. we have a live report from gaza on the latest developments. that's one of the foreign crises facing the obama administration. the white house also trying to deal with russian president vladimir putin and the conflict in ukraine. the fox news political insiders are here to weigh in. join the conversation by tweeting me @mollylinefnc, #frw. here on will be compared to. so get out there, and get the best price guaranteed. find it for less and we'll match it
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conner powell, live from gaza city, what will it take to get to a ceasefire? >> reporter: we spent the last 24 hours or so trying to see if the humanitarian ceasefire that lasted 12 hours yesterday could be extended. israel offered ex-tentension of that, hamas said no. we saw heavy fighting today but not like the past four, five days. we saw about a dozen or so hamas rockets fired from gaza to israel. we also heard and saw israeli artill parts here. for the last sort of two or three hours, it has been very quiet here now. of course, israel is expanding military operations, focusing mainly on tunnels and launch sites in areas where they already are in gaza now. they have not expanded to gaza city or some other areas. israel is continuing to conduct
military operations here, focusing on tunnels. hamas said we would reject a ceasefire where the israelis are allowed to continue to operate here. looks like both sides settled into a semi permanent ceasefire. the question is will it hold until tomorrow. both sides are under a lot of pressure to approve some long term ceasefire, and there seems to be support for it now in gaza. >> i was going to ask, you have been there on the ground, had a chance to talk with people. how much support is there for possible ceasefire? is it moving that direction? >> that's what's not really clear. there are a lot of people we have spoken to today, during the week, particularly during heavy fighting, when they were saying doesn't matter how bad fighting gets, they supported hamas, they feel the blockade around gaza was so intolerable, they wanted
the fighting continued, wanted the blockade lifted. there were many people here saying that. whether or not they're saying that now that they had a chance to see damage, had a chance to breathe, it is not clear. there's still a lot of support for hamas and any efforts to stop the blockade. whether they want to see the fighting as the holy month of ramadan is coming to an end, it is supposed to be celebration. a lot of people are buying supplies for the holidays and celebration. whether or not there's after this quiet period support for fighting is not clear. israel says they want fighting and rockets to stop. they're going to continue military operations to remove tunnels, want sustainable quiet. both hold to the ceasefire, is in question. we will continue to watch it. >> thank you for that insight. we appreciate it. the fighting in the middle east, one of the crises facing
the obama administration. washington is at odds about how to address all of them. as some analysts say u.s. is losing standing in the political community. tweet us. joining me, former republican congressman, pat goodell, and doug shown, fox news contributor as well. thank you for being here to talk about this. there's a tremendous amount going on. we begin with the on-going conflict in israel and gaza. the israeli prime minister netanyahu blaming hamas for breaking ceasefire agreements and saying he will do whatever is necessary to achieve the goal of sustainable quiet, security. dozens of soldiers killed, more
than a thousand reportedly killed in gaza, and international opposition is growing. as we move forward, are we doing enough in the u.s.? >> clearly we are not, molly. if you go around the world, in israel clearly we have not succeeded in doing anything but getting the most temporary of ceasefires, certainly no long term resolution. ukraine and russia, again, fighting is getting worse. we are tentatively talking about maybe providing technical assistance to the ukrainians to monitor russian advance weapon systems. libya blew up over the weekend. afghanistan, the taliban is making gains, the vote counting is now in question. and iraq is devolving into sectarian strife. president obama is not leading. we are a country that's weaker, less involved, less potent, and
the american people are angry. >> do you think we are being too tentative? >> i think the american government is not leading, not just the president but the republicans that control the house of representatives, the republican party itself is equally vak u us. there's nothing coming forward from them, other than their knee jerk reaction to bomb and invade people. why is a positive agenda? for instance on the gaza a thing, we have the iranians supporting hamas, giving them the rockets, encouraging this thing. why isn't the united states going to the arab states like saudi arabia and the uae and saying you guys have to come in here with your money and pay for the palestinians to disarm, to get modern, to give up this ridiculous notion of wiping out israel. why aren't we leading stuff like that instead of criticizing israel. >> there are so many players, the u.s., iran, qatar. so many involved.
>> you look at the map of the middle east, of the mediterranean, the area, europe, it looks like a map of world war i. you know, tomorrow is the 100th anniversary of beginning of world war i. a disaster brought on by miscalculation, lack of leadership from world leaders, particularly super powers, britain and it was a war of unnecessary disaster. millions and millions died. this is after 100 years of peace in europe. what do we have? we have a president today as doug said, yesterday we evacuated the embassy in libya, the country we quote, say, got rid of gadhafi, and the president was on the golf course playing golf with cnn anchors. this imagery of our leadership, of a president that doesn't lead and a world exploding, this kind of stuff has consequences. world war i is an example of those consequences and we are
playing with fire right now. >> interesting you bring up such historical context, there's always historical context when we talk about russia. there's so much going on with president vladimir putin there, the he escalating situation betn russia and ukraine. president obama is criticized as being awal, for lack of strength. two polls show an interesting juxtaposition. the first poll regarding the situation in ukraine, and who has the upper hand? a big, big majority believed vladimir putin has the upper hand. 75%. then another poll. should the u.s. be more involved in ukraine. when that poll comes up, americans say no. we should not be more involved, at least 61%. it is really tough. where do you go from there, when people believe that putin has the upper hand, but the u.s. should not draw deeper into this. >> first thing to say, molly,
despite the tragic downing of the malaysian jet, there's still a consensus by 60 points or more that putin has the upper hand. to that end, he is doubling down now. there's no suing for peace from vladimir putin. he upped the delivery of weapons systems to the separatists. he massed 15,000 or more troops on the ukrainian border, and is now firing with impunity into ukraine. the trend saying to be involved is up seven or eight points. to be sure, many don't want us to. but you can help, provide technical assistance, financial assistance. >> arms. >> give arms to the ukrainian military. >> meals. >> gave them old meals. >> but you can also do, if you were leading, if you weren't leading from behind, the european community, world outrage, what was lost the last
ten days by obama and leadership, this vacuum, we will pay a price for this vacuum in any one of these hot spots, iran with a bomb, isis, starting to kill christians if they don't convert perhaps. >> tremendous amount of things going on around the world and here. >> why doesn't the president go to europe and get all of the western leaders together in a room and lead. >> because he doesn't care enough about it, all right? he doesn't care about his job. >> some interesting things to talk about when it comes to congress, how much congress cares about things. >> they don't care about their jobs either. >> you guys are ready. we are going to get to it in a moment. we are seeing these crises overseas, but we're also dealing at home with illegal immigrants streaming into the u.s. on the southern border, and lawmakers are trying to come to a deal. are they trying? they're also preparing for a five week break. what do you think. should congress postpone that summer recess if a solution
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our nations' leaders at odds over the southern border. there's talk of an executive order to move forward on immigration reform as congress is set to take a five week vacation in days. our political insiders are back. thanks for being here. let's get to it. we are talking about immigration. this has been on everyone's mind. can't get away from it. today chris wallace spent a lot of time on this on fox news sunday trying to get an answer from the house majority whip elect as to whether the gop will
stay around to resolve to do something on this pressing issue of immigration. chris asked a question. basically trying to get to the bottom of this. will they stick around. take a listen. >> we're not even on recess, chris, we are here and ready to work. we're going to do our job this week. if the president wants to sit back, continue to point fingers at other people, he's the president of the united states. he could solve this problem today. i doesn't want to solve this problem but we do. we're going to stay and work and get our job done. >> do you think they'll stay? do you think it is important that they do? >> what bothers me about that answer is rather than the process question of staying or not, why doesn't he use this time on national tv to spell out what our republican plan is to fix the immigration and border security problem. i didn't hear a word about the substance of the issue, which is number one, people are still
streaming in down there, nothing is being done to stop it. border guards are 40 miles inland from the border. >> and john, the president announced a plan to begin a pilot program to take people from honduras to bring them in without them even having to get to the border. >> fly them in. >> we are divided. there is no consensus. i think it is a pretty obvious answer, congress should stay in session, period, no ifs, ands, or buts. >> the president is saying he will take action, the president and congress are being criticized. >> neither plan, the democrats, the president, the democrats, the house, care about getting a deal. if they did, they would be in a room getting one. this isn't that hard to solve. they're into the politics of it. president obama has changed his position about changing the 2008 law, which was a mistake. and encouraging people to come.
you know, he changed his mind because he's under pressure from voting groups he cares about, immigration supporters, the republicans are talking about deporting, the only thing they seem to be able to speak about. meanwhile, all they want to do is spend money. nothing is going to happen this week. nothing is going to happen. >> there's frustration. we are getting tweets, equal opportunity barbers, this one from rose bud. this congress is the greatest disgrace, no congress working, are you kidding. >> let me answer that by asking a question. what do sarah palin, ted cruz, nancy pelosi and barack obama have in common? they're talking not about this, they're talking about impeaching the president. this is the answer to serious problems. let's impeach obama, all doing it to raise money.
>> great bridge to talking about impeachment, a tweet from josh earnest that tweeted house gop's wrong priorities. new whip scalise won't rule in border vote this week, won't rule out impeachment. >> in the last 72 hours, i have 13 messages pushing impeachment and send money which is so much more than i ever received, even during the shut down. on the republican side, we have the same. people that make money on this, get people to read their blogs, extremists. this is insane. the democrats think this is august, excuse me, christmas in august. this is their greatest dream is to have this happen because in '98 they know majorities of americans who thought the president had done wrong on managing in terms of how he has tried to rule in a one-man show. yet the republicans go
immediately into can we go off the cliff? >> the elections of '98 didn't turn out particularly well. exactly. >> our slogan in the clinton white how was progress not partisanship. and we talked about fixing social security and keeping the economy going. john was alluding to it, has a positive agenda to deal with the economy, the border crisis to, the issue with taxation, moving overseas. no one is dealing with it. it is a crisis of confidence, a crisis of democracy. >> where is the republican alternative to obamacare? we were told it was coming and it never happened. they don't want to say you were mad about obama, you want to impeach him. it's not going to listen to whau elect us. that's the program. and they won't do it. >> the american people largely -- or the majority --
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your thoughts? >> that is a legitimate criticism as is suing to have the courts a s adjudicate as to whether the executor, obama, has gone too far. that's legit stuff. that's not crazy to do, all right? but speaking as a political person, we're three months from an election. republicans should win the senate this year. the thing that's lacking is they have yet to put forth their prescription for health care. what doug said, pro-growth program. they're afraid to say to the country, elect us. all they want to do is say obama is terrible. the democrats are -- which they are. >> both sides want to win senate seats. this comes down to the issues, winning the issues when it comes down to foreign policy, immigration, health care and everything else. >> what you're saying is the way
ordinary american voters think. tell me what you're going to do about the issues i care about. as pat and john are saying, very clearly, neither party is willing to do that. both parties play politics, attack, go to fund-raisers, send out incendiary e-mails. neither side governs from the perspective of getting results. we have a chance this week in the congress to get results on the va, immigration. we're not going to get it. we all lose as a result. >> super quick last word from pat? >> all i have to ask the american people is if you have no interest about what this is about. this is all about them. they don't care. the entire country -- the world is on fire. in a flame. and we are doing nothing at home or abroad to do what people want. it's all about us, the political class, and the corrupt media. >> and people are watching. that is for certain. we will see what happens in these elections that are looming 100 days from now. thank you so much, our political
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>> alberto wrote on facebook most americans believe in god. i can't believe how a small atheist minority can have more say than the rest of us believers. thanks to everyone who responded. >> "fox & friends" starts right now. bye. >> good morning. it is thursday, september 18. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. brand-new surveillance video of a missing college student shows that she was followed. but who is this mystery man and are the cops buying his story? the breaking details and search for hag hag. >> here -- for hannah graham. >> here's why the president is so sure there will be no boots on the ground. because he just changed the name to forward deployment. more semantics from a divided white house straight ahead. >> the nfl scandals keep on growing. you're not going to believe this. this morning two more stars get benched and the nfl admitting more mistakes on their part and then on the
league's part. no mistake here. mornings are better with friends. >> time for "fox &]3dí friends." >> welcome aboard, folks. thanks very much for joining us on this thursday morning. good morning, aberdeen. actually afternoon this. make sure you vote. the big vote over in scotland. we've got stiewfort -- stewart varney to explain the ramifications. >> what it means for us, the nuclear subs and what it means for scotch. >> in the meantime serious business to tell you about, breaking developments in the search for a missing university of virginia student. new surveillance video shows she was followed. quiem quiem is following this. -- anna kooiman is following this. anna, do we know who the guy in the surveillance video is? >> we don't know what his identity is. but he has come forward and
spoken to police is what we're hearing and is signaling them to a new mystery man. this is what we learned. police are looking for that mystery man who was actually putting his arm around hannah graham in the moments before she disappeared according to man you see in the video. this video shows him walking through a mall in downtown charlottesville. he can be seen stepping into a door way as he walks by and follows her. he can be seen walking past a jewelry shop. seconds after that the same man can be seen slowly walking behind her. wednesday noit that man spoke to police saying he was walking with her because she seemed distressed. that's when he says another man approached hannah and put his harm around her. the first man told police she seemed to know the mystery man. he is only described as a black male. police are now looking for that second man. earlier today police released it would more surveillance videos of
graham. one shows her walking past a bar apparently drunk. minutes later she can be seen running past a gas station and then slowing to a walk. police say they do not think graham was being followed at that point. they believe she walked at least a mile and a half from the party where she was on friday night. she was repor4pñ missing on sunday. today investigators are going door to door hoping to find more video that shows where she and the unidentified man went next. graham is the fourth young woman to go missing in the area in the past five years. a vigil will be held at hannah's hometown tonight. >> thank you very much, anna kooiman. troubling news. now that there are so many video cameras out there, it seems like we're getting more and more surveillance stuff where we can see things we didn't see before. >> anna's family and friends holding out hope for more information. if you have information, please call. >> the big story here, we were talking about the
university of virginia student. now big news overseas which,z#y affects us here is what we're doing against isis. yesterday the president of the united states addressed the troops for a myriad of reasons. he wants to keep momentum and get financing for his battle plan to take on isis. number two, he felt he had to clarify what the secretary of defense said the day before about what he's been emphatic about, that this would be no troops on the ground. did he double down on that? did he make sure everyone was clear on that? in some respects. in some respects he also introduced another term. >> yesterday the president with the men behind him, he said -- and women behind him, you're not fighting a ground war in iraq. so the president yesterday said no, no boots on the ground. none of those boots on the ground. dempsey said he might ask the president for boots on the ground. biden said maybe. now the white house has decided maybe we should just mowf the goal post.
-- move the goal post. rather than call them boots on the ground or combat troops now we'll refer to them as forward deployment. >> the american public says don't undermine our intelligence. we know what that means. why can't you say they are radical islamists, call war war and when you have boots on the ground, boots on the ground. you have the house voting to actually arm syrian rebels here to do what they need to do. obviously everyone understands you need feet on the ground. let's call it something.=d@v else. forward deployment? former secretary of defense robert gates who, by the way, airman himself. former air force, says they're great. they will do what they can do. but it's not going to be enough. why can't the president say that? >> they're not going to be able to be successful against isis strictly from the air. or strictly depending on
iraqi forces or the peshmerga or sunni tribes acting on their own. so there will be boots on the ground if there is to be hope of success in the strategy. >> general odierno, the u.s. army chief of staff and helped through the surge with petraeus lead the surge said you've got to have ground forces. it's got to be us. what also bothers me is general austin already asked for special forces to be in and direct airstrikes, some of the 176 on the ground already, and was rejected. already it is affecting our performance on the field. >> the advice of the president should be, given the time of peril we're in right now, just be honest with people. right now when they say no troops on the ground, people aren't believing that because we've already got troops on the ground over there. meanwhile, is our commander in chief out of touch with the military? when you listen to former
navy seal carl higbee, it is clear the men and women who wear the uniforms in challenge and they are up for it. is the president? don't know. >> for the most part, our troops will go over there. they want to fight this fight. they joined the fight a war, to combat the problem, to combat something that is threatening our homeland. these troops will go over there and fight with all their heart. we are the most lethal fighting force history has known. let us fight this battle. >> let's just think about this. they chop off the heads of two americans and more are lined up ready to go, and our response is we promise not to really get engaged. only hit you from above. it is a mixed mebl. -- message. iran says what kind of message is that too that we're scared to put boots on the ground, so they don't want to get involved. mark levin saw the backdrop of the president addressing
the troops who signed up to fight and said this with sean yesterday. >> i want you to know that your sons and daughters are heroes. they did exactly the right thing. i want to apologize to you for this phony commander in chief who cut and run. and as a result, helped build up this enemy, this isis, isil, smisil, whatever the hell it is, these cockroaches we're having to deal with or should deal with once and for all. you know what? it just amazes me. do we want to win wars anymore? we know how we win them. we remember how we won doesn't call them wars. we call them kinetic military action. there is an op-ed today that says tell the american people the truth. they say -- quote -- "this would make the islamic state less likely to doubt u.s. resolve while forcing liberals in congress to stand with mr. obama from
the start and leave no openings for critics on the left or the right to claim they were not told the truth." >> i think the president is going to try to direct it itself. tell special forces you can't get involved or telling everyone he's got to sign off on any hit into syria. that is where two-thirds of isis operates. >> all their findings have pointed to that number as well. >> it is about ten minutes after the top of the hour on this very busy news day. heather childers joins us live. you start with a school closing. >> we have other news to talk about. schools are closed. an entire community on lockdown as we learn more about the crazed gunman who shot it would state troopers leaving one of them dead. police in pennsylvania say 31-year-old eric frein was part of a military reenactors group and he's acting out a fantasy pretending to be a soldier. >> in the event you're listening to this broadcast
on a portable radio while cowering in a cool, damp hiding place, i want you to know one thing. eric, wore coming for you. >> byron k. dickson was killed in the attack. another trooper was critically hurt. the nfl scandal growing. two more stars benched. carolina panthers suspending greg hardy convicted of assaulting his ex-girlfriend. hardy goes on trial in november but until now has never faced punishment with the nfl. then there is jonathan dwyer under arrest accused of beating his wife two separate times. in a few hours a new york man charged with aiding isis will face a judge in court. a naturalized u.s. citizen from yemen was trying to recruit americans to fight for isis and plotting to kill u.s. soldiers returning from the middle east. he faces up to 65 years in prison. his uncle, by the way,
behind bars now for funneling millions of dollars to a terror network. a three-year-old boy upstaging his military mom as she returns home from afghanistan. [yells and cheers] >> he ignored protocol. he ran right into his mom's arms while she waits to be dismissed. the minnesota toddler no stranger to deployment. both of his parents are in the national guard. i love those videos every single time woaf one. i get chills when i see that. >> he hadn't seen his mom in nine months. what kid wouldn't do that. >> pretty awesome to see. thank you. coming up, he was booted from "meet the press" not even allowed to say goodbye on air. but this morning david gregory is getting the last word. >> terrific. and our resident brit, stuart varney is here, keeping a close eye on what the scotch are doing today. the voting is underway right now.
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>> we've got a fox news alert for you. a live look in scotland where voters there are heading to the polls today to decide whether to split from the united kingdom. that decision, the fate of a nation and perhaps an
entire part of the world could hinge on 35,000 voters -- on 350,000 voters who /:anv far undecided. if the scots say see you later to the united kingdom, how would american foreign policy change? here is stuart varney, who would like to see them stay. >> i would. if they vote yes for independence separate from the rest of britain, if they do that, america faces real challenge. america will face a broken britain because this is the break-up of great britain. it would face a disunited, unstable europe. there are all kinds of independence movements which will be very much strengthened if the scots vote for independence. and america faces a diminished nato. britain has nukes. those nukes are launched in scotland. if they vote for independence those nukes have to be moved. where to? we don't know. >> you're referring to submarines 20 miles from
glasgow? >> yes. >> in terms of money, who benefits here? >> in the short run i think a vote for independence by scotland could push money over here because an unstable europe, a europe in recession and a broken britain, the heart money gets nervous and comes to the most stable part of the world and that would be the united states. >> this is the 31st country to break away from england since world war ii so what is the big deal? we've seen the imperialistic power shrink. this leaves them wales and northern ireland. they would also hold on to the pound; right? scotland would have to come up with their own currency is i. >> scotland doesn't know what they're going to do about currency. they are undecided. they would like, i think, to stay with the british pound. but they might not let them. they won't have the bank of england to back up scotland. a good question is who gets the oil. that is not entirely
decided. potentially scotland is taking a huge financial battle. they think they can finance a welfare state on the back of petro dollar earnings. that is a shaky decision in my opinion. >> stuart, while you were speaking i was looking at twitter and a fellow by the name of rupert murdoch has tweeted out this. he writes scotland now voting. nobody can be sure of outcome, but yes, organization, people who say yes, likely to make it very close. either way, u.k. changes forever. >> that's interesting. u.k. changes forever, whichever way the vote goes. >> you know why? a lot of centers are built in for them to stay. if they stay, wales and northern ireland are going to say what about giving me incentives to stay or i'm going to leave. >> we don't have exit polls so we don't know which way the vote is going but it is going to be close and there's a lot hanging on this. >> it is a very liberal
country. >> it is very left. it wants to go further left, wants to spend more government money, wants more welfare. very shaky propositions. >> isn't it like being engaged, calling it off and keeping the ring? >> you have a prediction? >> i think the no vote will win by just a very narrow margin. that's what i hope. >> i predict pain. >> we'll see the outcome this afternoon. what the scottish are doing. check out stuart varney's program 11 a.m. eastern time on fox business. coming up, joe biden does it again. >> i stopped in singapore to meet with a guy named lee kwan yu who most foreign policy experts around the world say is the most wisest man in the orient. >> it does go downhill from
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23 minutes past the top of the hour. quick headlines for you. members of the mainstream media admitting they are lazy and biased. david gregory was booted from "meet the press" but this morning he's getting the last word saying this
about journalism in washington. >> things that fight the nar -- narrative get harder to report out because of laziness in the media. david gregory said he is biased about reporting about the white house on networks. he said i'm going to express my views but it would be disingenuous to pretend i wasn't loyal to the president. >> david was man schultz reports of an internal struggle between her and the white house after a series of public flubs including comparing scott walker to wife beaters. steve got a story you all loved. >> thank you very much, elisabeth. zero tolerance policy forces a south carolina -- forces south carolina students to remove american flags from their trucks on 9/11. this outraged our next guest, a local who posted this message on facebook:
this is a call out to every person who lives in woodruff, south carolina. if you have a child who attends woodruff high school send them to school monday morning with an american flag on their car. also citizens of woodruff, show up carrying your own american flag. and she did show up. and hermw. name is lora. welcome. she posted this. good morning to you. told this story yesterday and we were so incensed because on 9/11 the principal went out on four vehicles in the parking lot of a high school. they confiscated the flags because they got a rule where you're not supposed to bring attention to yourself. why did this upset you? >> it upsets me because our american flag is our symbol. it's different than any other flag that's out there. it's above the flags.
if i were to go across the seas and try to sail the american flag above a european flag, whoever, they wouldn't allow that. so we can't equate that with their flags flying here with us. it was taking those children's rights away, and i felt like they needed a voice. and so i made the post, a local station got it, and now you guys have it. and yesterday our superintendent made a formal public apology to the community and to anybody else in the nation that they had offended. he said we dropped the ball. we made a mistake. we are going to revise the handbook and change the policy. the united states flag does not bring attention -- undue attention to one's vehicle or one's self and they should be allowed to fly it. >> were you able to get some parents whose kids go to that school to stand with you and drive with you with the flag? >> there were approximately
12 people, i'm told, that were there on the sidewalk. and honestly, i only knew one lady that was there. that was my next-door neighbor and she does have a student in the school. the other people, i have no clue who they were or if they have children that attend the school now or in the past.r9 the students were coming to school. we were informed that it was spirit week. it's homecoming week in south carolina and we still do spirit week. and they -- the principal and superintendent told us that america -- that monday had already been deemed america day, which that's okay. that's fine. but i think we had a bigger support, a bigger turnout from the student body because of the actions that were taken on 9/11. >> exactly. and that's the important part. the principal went out into the parking lot and took the flags off of the vehicles on september 11.
if there is a day where people -- here in new york city, it was flags aplenty, flags all over the place. >> flags everywhere. >> absolutely. so it makes sense to show up -- they're patriotic kids at that high school, for them to show up with a big flag in the bed of their truck. for the school to do it -- it's great that they have apologized but it seems like they were completely tone-deaf to what goes on in this country on september 11. >> i don't know the principal. my children have been gone for quite awhile, but i'm told that he is a patriotic man and he was trying to follow policy. >> you will think on that day they would make an exception to the policy. it's great that they apologized. >> and that is what the superintendent said. they dropped the ball, and they're sorry that they did so. it will never happen again were his words. i'm very pleased. >> you and many of the
people watching now. lora slocum, thank you very much. thanks for stangdz up -- standing up for the flag in south carolina. good to know they apologized, realized they made a mistake. 28 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, a new jersey boy allegedly murdered by a jihadist here in the united states. this morning that teenager's parents are speaking out for the first time. >> as a father and, you know, what she was going through, i just -- i wasn't there, so. >> man, more from their exclusive interview with fox coming up next. plus they were deported but now we could be paying for hundreds of thousands of illegals to come back. great. you're going to want to hear that story. first happy birthday to frankie avalon. the singer, 74. ♪ ♪
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have a fox news exclusive. for the first time we're hearing from the parents of brandon tevlon murdered by a suspected jihadist. a man reportedly told miss he murdered the 19-year-old as pay back for u.s. military involvement in the middle east. >> i grabbed him and said, no, no, not brandon. and he said yes, it's brandon. he was murdered. >> i thought it was a bad dream. what do you mean brandon's you know, what she was going through, i just -- i wasn't there. >> brandon was a member of the national honor society, a unanimous consent -- a minister and just finished his first yore at the university of richmond. >> thousands of deported illegal immigrants could be
getting a free ticket back into america. the aclu came to a settlement over allegations that border patrol agents used intimidation tactics against illegal immigrants. those deported from 2009 to august of this year could be allowed to return. >> i think this is egregious. you know what? maybe i was abused, maybe i was forced to sign pieces of paper. advertise the settlement in mexico. all at the taxpayers' expense. vice president joe biden does it again. >> on the way back from mumbai to meet with president xi in china, i stopped in singapore to meet with a guy named lee kuan yew who most foreign policy experts around the world say is the wisest man in the orient. >> that gaffe coming right after the vice president had another foot in the mouth moment.
>> people would come to him and talk about what was happening at home in terms of foreclosures, in terms of bad loans that were being -- i mean these shylocks who took advantage of these women and men while overseas. >> shyhock refers to the jewish money lender in shakespeare. biden said it was a poor choice of words. >> you think? >> her music has defined a generation. ♪ you make me feel ♪ like a natural ♪ natural woman >> we're talking about the legendary singer and song writer carol king. now there is a tony award winning broadway hit about her life. michael tammero joins us, and they have had a landmark regarding this.
>> hollywood has been struggling as of late but booming. they target baby boomers and that is where the money is. motown, the carol king musical monday. monday they passed the production cost. i had a chance to go behind stage and see what makes this musical so great. ♪ ♪ >> guys, we're back stage in the dressing room of broadway star and tony winner star of "beautiful." the tony, how does it feel? >> it feels pretty good. not going to lie. >> where do you keep it at home? >> on the shelf in my living room. >> so everyone can see it when they come in >> it is not the focal point of the room. you catch it if you really
look for you. >> what is it like playing carol king? >> hard to describe it. she means so much to so many people. she is a legend. you don't want to screw that up. >> when you met carol king for the first time, what was her reaction like? >> i got emotional and started to cry a little bit. she was amazing, let me give her a hug and she looked me in the eye. i think we both had a wild moment. >> we have a show to do tonight. have a good time. >> thank you. >> i told mike i'd take him on a tour. first off is the wig room. >> the show starts from like 1953 all the way through 1971? >> yes. the hair styles change. the bell bottoms get wider, there's costumes and wigs in the way they tell that story. let's go to the orchestra pit. here we are in the orchestra pit. you want to hear something
special? maestro, can we hear some carol king? ♪ ♪ >> perfect. warm up right now. all right, great. thanks, man. >> thank you. >> this is broadway's inspector. mike's here to hang out. hello. i know it's ♪ ♪ gonna be all right ♪ >> so many legends. what's the experience like? >> amazing. people have a real attachment to carol. >> i heard the announcement. 30 minutes, good luck. break a leg. >> guys, this is one of those shows you sit there song after song. you're like she wrote that song? it is fantastic. catch it right now on
broadway. >> would we beki9f÷ embarrassed if we were there singing along? >> a lot of people are singing along. >> i can see why everyone wants to be right there. >> catch it on inthefoxlight.com and follow me on twitter. i think you guys do. >> thank you, michael. coming up, do you want to buy a gun? you're going to have to tell them your race. why do they want that? we're asking the same. judge napolitano is on the case next. >> the nfl scandals keep growing. two more stars benched yesterday and the nfl admitting to more mistakes. is this just the beginning? brian bringing in hall of famer jerry rice. hello, jerry. ♪ ♪
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>> if your alarm clock just went off, you need headlines, we've got them from around the globe. >> iranian president taking a jab at president obama while vowing to give iraq support in fighting isis, he used the president's own words against his red line. the president, our president, against syria. >> when he says the red line, it means the red line which means woal -- we will not allow [inaudible] >> a british woman thrown in prison for two months after trying to watch a volleyball game in iran. the 25-year-old was arrested for trying to watch the iranian national team play. only men are allowed to watch apparently in that country. >> brand-new this morning, two more nfl players
benched. overnight cardinals running back jonathan dwyer arrested on aggravated asalt charges involving his wife. carolina panthers suspending greg hardy convicted of assaulting his ex-girlfriend. they won't wait for fleel. is this just the beginning? let's ask hall of famer and maybe one of the greatest players ever to play the game jerry rice. welcome back. first things first, everyone is talking about this. your reaction to the domestic abuse charges on this five-year player jonathan dwyer. >> i have a nontolerance towards domestic violence and also child abuse. i think these guys got to realize they're role models and they can't be doing things like what they're doing today. >> the whole thing is due process. while the courts are finding out who is guilty and who is not, who is only accused and who is not,
should the league be suspending these players? should greg hardy after being convicted be told i don't care about your appeal, you're done. >> i think the right thing now is take them off the field because it's not about football until the situation is resolved. once it's resolved, then they can move on. >> do you think the league dropped the ball on this by not having hard core reactions to this and not doing it on a case by case basis? >> i think the league, with roger goodell -- and he's been known to be that type of person to really put the hammer down. and i feel like they, they have dropped it a little bit. and it's very important to let people know that we're just not going to tolerate that. and the players, they need to recognize that, hey, look, if i do something like that, i'm going to get suspended or i could be banned from the league. >> real quick, adrian peterson suspended with pay. $900,000 a week. for child abuse. a lot of people say that's
the way i was brought up. charles barkley, that's the way i was brought up. you were brought up in the south. >> i was brought up in the south and i got whippings. that's what they did back in the day. but i think my parents molded me into the guy that i am today. there is a disconnect because being disciplinednúy and being abused, because i feel if you leave physical marks now, that's abuse. >> with your kids, you don't. >> no, but my kids know, i can look at them a certain way, if i tap them on their leg they know they better straighten up. >> great. let's talk about the league's new drug policy that allows some players on the field right away and others have to have blood testing for the first time. what do you think the ramifications are going to be? see a lot less 300 pounders? >> i hope so. i feel some of the players have an extra edge. that was something i never
did. i just did it the right way, with the sweat and the tears and going out, being the best football player i could possibly be. >> do you think there is an h.g.h. problem in the league? >> if anything, like you said, the testing is going to be able to eliminate those guys from getting so big and so huge and so fast. >> right. that could also play a role in the injuries. guys being that fast, that big, that strong, going at that velocity hitting other guys, that leads to head injury. anything knows anything about you, whether a football fan or not knows you're about excellence, about conditioning and if anything overtraining and you still look in great shape today. how does that play into your message? >> i have partnered with lysol. i'm the first healthy habits coach. i can teach kids the importance of healthy habits and set them up in school where they can be successful. through out my career i
practice nutrition, eating fruit, veggies, all that. stopping the sugary drinks. that helped mean play 20 years over 300 games and 189 games consecutive. just eating right. we need kids to get out and be more active. september 22 is healthy habits week. you can go to lysol.com healthy habits for all of the information. >> today you're going to be in queens? >> yes. i'm going out and talk to the kids and let them know it's very important that they take care of themselves. washing their hands when they go to the bathroom and do all those things because the less sick days they have, they're in class and continuing to learn. >> jerry rice, great player, great role model and a very good dancer. >> thank you for that one. >> you could dance us out but unfortunately we're up against a break. >> that's that rhythm,
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big question now, is the obama administration violating the rights of gun owners across america? that's what gun advocates claim inform the government of their race and ethnicity. is this government sanctions racial profiling and does it ultimately put people's privacy at risk? we're going to ask judge andrew napolitano that very question this morning. good morning. >> good morning. to start with the big picture, the right to keep and bear arms is an extension of the natural right to defend yourself. that's not me. that's what the supreme court said twice in two different opinions in the past ten years. i forcefully and proceed foundly agree with that, basic constitutional law. so why do you need to fill out a form, the government's form, in order to protect yourself? the government's decided it wants to know who has guns. none of the government's business who has guns. it's none of the government's business the race or ethickity
of the people who want to buy guns, and certainly none of the government's business to ask you why you want the gun. you want the gun? it's none of the government's business. we don't need the government's business to express our first amendment freedom, why do we need their permission to express our second amendment rights? >> so there is a privacy issue. but what if you don't answer the question? isn't that denying you the right >> theoretically the seller of the weapon has become the agent of the government by saying, look, i can't sell you this gun. i want to sell you the gun. i want to make the profit from the sale and i want you to be able to have the product you want to buy. but the government is telling me i can't sell it until you fill out the form. whether they overlook the fact that you refuse to tell the government your race, ethnicity and sell you the gun, then they're going to get in trouble. this is called forced speech. first amendment says congress
can't inc. fringe speech. the courts have interpreted that to mean congress can't lot compel you to speak. so the government can't say, hey, what's your race? what's your ethnicity and why do you want that gun? the government doesn't have the lawful, moral authority to do that. but yet that's what it's trying to do with these forms. >> there is a blurred line there. >> it is. because the states regulate guns, but the feds are telling them how it do it. >> sounds like a big violation to most. gun advocates thinking the same. thank you. >> pleasure. >> coming up, a pop quiz. can you tell which one of these can you tell which one of these brownies is laced with5aa
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good morning. today is thursday, september 18. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. brand-new surveillance video of a missing college student showing that she was followed. details on the man seen here on this tape and whether cops are buying his story ahead. wow. new this morning, more scandals unfolding in the nfl. two more players pulled off the field for alleged abuse. one of them under arrest. and three stories gaining serious traction right now at fox news.com. a state trooper booted from waffle house because he was carrying his gun. a mother in trouble for letting her son play outside the house across the street when she was watching him through the window. a kid who says he was bullied because he would not stand up and say the pledge of allegiance. we want to know which story has you the most fired up. that's right. it's another episode of you choose the news on this "fox & friends" live from new york
city. >> this is jerry rice, 13-time pro bowler, three-time super bowl champ. don't drop the ball on "fox & friends." >> that's the pressure on you at home. whatever you have, don't drop it. >> you heard him. >> we have a fox news alert. a live look right now in scotland. why? polls are open for the scottish independence vote. amy kellogg live in scotland for all the drama. it's a big day. what's the mood there? where do you think the public is leaning? >> reporter: brian, it's on a knife's edge. there is a trickle of people coming from the polling station behind me. but they are expecting here in scotland that this will be the biggest electoral vote in their history because they are voting on the future of scotland. it could be an independent country. they're expecting a turnout of 80 to 90%. no figures on that yet. eligibls
about 4.2 or 3 million have registered. they've opened up the voting to people as young as 16 years of age, which has been somewhat controversial. but a lot of these young people seem to have a very good grasp of the issues. >> i just think we need the support from england that we get. we'll be so vulnerable to attacks. we've got no defense without england. i just think they do so much for us economically as well. >> reporter: those are two of the issues, defense and economy. britain's nuclear deterrent is based in scotland and they said if scotland becomes independent, the subs will be kicked out. also the economy, of course. we don't know where that will go if scotland becomes independent. they won't be able to keep the
pound, they don't have a plan b. nay sayers say they will flourish if they're independent. >> all right. amy kellogg, where it is three minutes after noon in scotland right now. i got a feeling the polls will pick up a little later on when people are getting off work and out of school. >> i love hearing the perspective of a young person there concerned about security and economics moving forward. i think that's quite interesting, though some may say too young to participate. >> can you imagine having an election and 90% of the people showing up? that is unbelievable. >> that is great. >> you can't say that doesn't really involve me. meanwhile, heather, are you scottish? >> i am not. dutch irish. >> so you're not voting today? >> i'm not. >> but we do have breaking news to tell you about. fox news alert. breaking developments in the search for a missing university of virginia student. new surveillance video shows she was followed.
hannah graham can be seen walking through a mall in charlottesville in front of her, stops and follows her. two minutes later, graham walks past a jewelry shop. a few seconds later, the same man can be seen walking behind her again. last night that man told police that he was walking with her because she seemed distressed. he says another man approached her and put his arm around graham. graham, by the way, the fourth young woman to go missing in the same area in the past five years. also breaking overnight, a terror plot foiled isis, calling for the kidnapping and innocent of innocent people in a major city. 15 suspected terrorists were arrested in australia's largest ever counterterrorism operation. the country now raising its terror threat to the second highest level. schools are closed, entire community on lockdown as we learn more about the crazed gunman who shot two state troopers leaving one of them
dead. police in pennsylvania say that 31-year-old eric freen was part of a military reenactment group and that he's actually acting out a disturbing military fantasy pretending to be a soldier. >> in the event you're listening to this broadcast on a radio or portable radio while cowering in some cold, damp hiding place, i want you to know one thing, eric, we are coming for you. >> corporal brian dixon was killed in the attack. his funeral this morning. trooper douglas critically hurt, but alive. and now this, he learned the hard way you do not mess with a woman who is nine months pregnant. she chased him down after he swiped her purse outside a grocery store and knocked her to the ground. the woman's family grabbed him and held him down until police got there and here is the best part. just hours later, she gave birth to a healthy baby. so good for her.
>> glad they had a happy ending. >> thank you very much. >> this headline i thought was taken from monday's show or last wednesday's show or last friday's show, it's thursday and we have more bad news for the nfl. it happened again. it's bad behavior. you might not know jonathan dwyer, but he's been in the league for five years. started with the cardinals. he's involved with his second domestic abuse accusation and it might involve child abuse as he went after his wife and also their text message revealed he threatened her if she in fact called the cops. >> one aggravated assault, including a minor of an 18-monthsan hold, and preventing use of phone in an emergency. >> he's out. >> he's not the only one out. greg hardy yesterday, he was convicted in july of assaulting and threatening to kill his
girlfriend. the trial is scheduled for november 17. yesterday the carolina panthers said, you know what? why don't we just bench him? >> but still paying. >> $13 million base salary he still gets. >> $770,000 a week he will make during the season. so if he's still getting paid, it's a lot of money while you wait in the money for a verdict. >> in hardy's case, he's convicted already. this is an appeal. the audiotapes show basically it's almost like the transcript from the o. j. simpson situation and this woman was fearing from her life. this is from a neighbor. here is a question from the nfl, in hardy's case there was due process, there was a conviction. but without due process in dwyer's case, what does the league do? if you're convicted of this, you're off? but while you're actually going through the process, play. really? should you do that? especially when the circumstances, for example, of adrian peterson where his four-year-old had pictures?
in hardy's situation where there were audiotapes. in dwyer's situation, i think that is the biggest story. >> where is the real deterrent when you take the money away and prevent anyone from getting close to the line of abuse at all. jerry rice, what did he have to say? >> listen to what he said about that. he said the one thing players care about is playing. >> i think the right thing right now is to take them off the field because it's not about football. and until the situation is resolved, it's very important to let people know that we're just not going to tolerate that. the players need to recognize that hey, look. if i do something like that, i'm going to get suspended or i could be banned from the league. >> eli manning weighing in this morning. he was asked about it. he went into extensive detail saying enough. they got to go. it's not just outsiders. it's insiders. >> two more players not playing this weekend.
>> meanwhile, mixed messages in washington, d.c president obama still insisting no troops on the ground in the his joint chiefs of staff seems to be on a different page. this as the house has just approved a plan to amount syrian rebels. peter doocy with the latest. >> reporter: on capitol hill, speaker boehner and minority leader pelosi united behind a measure to arm and train syrian rebels which easily passed the house with bipartisan support. had bipartisan opposition, with 85 democrats and 71 republicans voting no. this came shortly after president obama promised once again no combat troops in iraq while he's in charge. >> as your commander in chief, i will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in iraq. after a decade of massive ground deployments, it is more
effective to use our unique capabilities in support of partners on the ground so they can secure their own countries' futures. >> reporter: isis fights might have a hard time believing the u.s. is not fighting in combat roles. u.s. advising iraqi and on air strikes. if they don't work, then the vice president is open to sending in ground forces. >> agree with general dempsey about using ground troops? >> reporter: another denial that ground troops in iraq are not --
are a possibility is coming from secretary of state john kerry who told the senate committee yesterday, americans will only go to iraq in support roles. that's it. back to you. >> that's it. peter, thank you. time for you choose the news. which of these stories has got you riled up. first of all, let's take you down to grapevine, texas. the waffle house there. there was a texas state trooper, a chopper pilot. he showed up to the place in his field uniform, which is a polo shirt, tan slacks, a badge and a gun. the manager came out and yelled at him, you got to get out of here. he said i'm a state trooper in uniform. he said get out and don't ever come back! he's upset because of the way that he was singled out and embarrassed in front of them. since then, waffle house has said we are really sorry. but none the less, the trooper is amazed that he would be kicked out. >> right. north dakota, a school accused of bullying a child who had to
stand outside of class because he didn't want to stand up and say the pledge of allegiance. the dad and an atheist group are saying you bullied our kid. you didn't want to stand during the pledge. the superintendent who is a military veteran said the child is actually told to stand up to say the pledge. when he didn't in order to avoid other students from becoming distracted and wanting to sit as well, they placed him outside and say stand outside the class, but you're not going to refuse to stand and distract everybody else. >> sounds more like distraction than anything else. now let's go out to austin, texas, where a kerry ann roy is outraged. she's a writer and mom of three and she's upset that a neighbor, a nosey neighbor called the cops because she let a six-year-old, her six-year-old play outside with her eight-year-old, who by the way she was watching from across the street. the neighbor called the cops. as if she was being an irresponsible mother. she said she was about 100 yards away. she could watch him the whole time. that's what kids do. she is pushing back.
>> they actually brought the kid over to the house and child services showed up and asked all three questions a couple days later and asked them very detailed questions which they were quite uncomfortable with. >> about alcohol and drugs and porn and all sorts of weird stuff. so we'd love to have you weigh in on this. go to our facebook page and take the quiz, which of those three stories are you most interested in hearing more about. facebook.com/foxandfriends. here is what's coming up, soon border patrol agents could be forced to wear body cameras. but not for their own protection. the move to give illegals an advantage. yep. we'll explain coming up. and the president and his top generals can't seem to agree on battling isis, sending mixed messages about boots on the ground. up next, a man who has been calling for boots on the ground from the beginning, carl oliver north reporting for duty. >> his boots are always on the ground.
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the president has struggled to deliver a consistent message on how we're going to defeat isis. he's got one position that could not be more clear.
>> this is not and will not be america's fight alone. the american forces that have been deployed to iraq do not and will not have a combat mission. they will support iraqi forces on the ground. as your commander in chief, i will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in iraq. >> some of the president's top generals, pictured here, and his former secretary of defense disagree. why the disconnect? joining us now is fox news military analyst, lieutenant colonel oliver north. isn't the president, by saying what we won't do, boxing himself in to a corner? >> no commander on the battlefield or commander in chief should ever tell the enemy what they will or won't do. right from the get go in this thing he has been saying words like you just put on the air. here is the worst problem, nobody really knows what he really wants to do because just hours after he said that down at the air force base in florida, josh earnest on air force one coming back to washington says,
well, there are certain conditions where he may want to consider putting u.s. troops close in with iraqis in iraq. >> forward deployment? >> that's the new word, forward deployment. >> what does that mean? >> forward deployment for those of us who used to do that meant you were going to go from the united states to some forward deployed location where you might be engaged with the enemy. the bottom line of this is if he's going to do that and put them in close contact, he has to have an authorization from the congress of the united states. it's called use of force. and he has to get the congress to nod their heads and say yes, we'll support that. every president has done that. this president has been so confused, i've now dubbed this operation enduring freedom. we have operation enduring confusion. it's confusing the troops. here is the bottom line, without putting forward controllers from the air force and other services on the ground with the iraqi
battalion who are in combat, you will not have success using air power. arab air power is an oxymoron. they can't do it. furthermore, if you leave syria as a safe said he wouldn't do, you've got to put somebody over there to help those fight. they promised they're going to train 5,000 so-called moderate syrians. they're going to export them, fly them to saudi arabia, u.s. special forces will train them. >> for about a year. >> 12 months. then bring them back. think of this, isil, isis, whatever it's calling itself this week, has grown in three weeks, from 15,000 to over 30,000. in a year, how are these guys, 5,000 of them, going to come back and go into syria, now they're going to ballot, 35, 30,000 isis and assad? >> we have to have ground forces, out of everybody you mention, where are the ground
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western europe. it's foot print that's been constant since the end of world war ii. that portion west of germany has not really changed. we know east of germany and the old iron curtain and the old soviet republic, there has been a lot of changes going on there. as you know, a few weeks ago, if you were to talk about volatility in europe, you would have been referring to what's going on in ukraine and all the nastiness there. now the concern is that out of nowhere, scotland just up and votes. they don't think that's going to happen. but obviously the markets are just sort of waiting to see how this folds out. one was saying if it's a close vote, it keeps out there that this notion of cesession. >> let's listen to the boss. >> the danger is that if they win and the column here revolts against their leaders who made
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coming up, the parents of a teen-ager allegedly murdered by jihaddist here in america speak exclusively with fox. >> does it make a difference? i mean, i know that to everyone else this is a domestic terrorism. does it make a difference? does it have any impact on either one of you in any way or not? >> their response to greta's question ahead. then. >> some parents are crying foul this morning about what's coming out of barbie's mouth. what did she say? >> she loves ken? >> that would be good. what she says later is a problem. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ today we want to wish a big happy birthday to the united states air force. these brave men and women protecting america's skies for 67 years. we are joined by many of them here right now, including colonel bruce and amanda martino. congratulations. happy birthday and thank you for all that you do. >> thank you. >> what does the birthday mean to you, bruce? >> well, it's a time to look back at our heritage, our history, 67 years of air power and our heros and not only heros past, but heros of today.
we have one standing right here with us. >> tell us a little about senior airman amanda martino. >> she's with the security forces in new york. she deployed last year to afghanistan and sustained two injuries in combat and awarded two purple hearts in combat action medal. she's also getting her mast's degree as well. >> what does this day mean to you? >> it means a great celebration for everything we've been fighting for for years to come and everything that represents the nation in general. >> that's very nice. of course, as is the case on anniversaries like this, it falls to you, colonel, speak softly and carry a big sword. it's time to cut the cake. do you want to do that? >> we will. >> we overprepared. here we go. you ready? >> let her rip.
as is the tradition, the senior and the junior personnel get to share the cake, right? >> fair enough. >> you created a new tradition. this is one time you don't want to lick the knife. >> we'll do that later. >> thank you for sharing this with us. it's a very great day. >> will you make sure they all get a piece? >> they got up early. >> that's right. you want a piece. >> i do. >> thanks so much for your service. everyone is talking about the air force. we just bombed, no big deal. it's big deal. and we know you put your lives on the line. >> happy birthday. >> thank you. meanwhile, now to a fox news alert. a new york man charged with aiding the brutal terror group isis due no court later today. that's him right there. >> and rick leventhal live outside the federal courthouse in rochester, new york. good morning to you, rick. what can you tell us?
>> reporter: good morning. he's expected here in the federal court later this morning. one of the first if not the first american to be accused of recruiting for isis. he's scheduled to be arraigned before a u.s. magistrate judge at 11 a.m his public defender says he will plead not guilty. he was busted by the buffalo division of the f.b.i.'s joint terrorism task force which began tracking him about a year ago. the feds say the convenience store manager was using social media, including twitter and facebook to voice support for terror groups, including al-qaeda and isis and tried to raise funds to help buy weapons for jihaddists. he also, according to the feds, tried to recruit at least two men to travel to syria and fight for isis, but both men were confidential informants for the f.b.i he was busted in may when feds say he met one of the confidential informants in a wal-mart parking lot to buy a hand gun, silencer and ammunition intending to kill american troops who served in iraq. feds say he wanted to kill shia
muslims here in the rochester area. he faces life in prison if convicted on the most serious charges. his uncle, by the way, is suspected of trying to support terrorism and is doing time now for funneling millions of dollars to yemen. guys? >> all right. rick leventhal live with the latest out of rochester, new york, thank you. heather childers is here. >> a fox news exclusive for you. for the first time, we are hearing from the parents of brandon, murdered by a suspected jihaddist. he reportedly told police that he murdered the 19-year-old as pay back for u.s. military involvement in the middle east. >> in our opinion, they don't think he acted alone. >> he was looking to kill somebody. he changed his clothes. he was there to do what he did and what he accomplished.
why was it brandon? if it was not him, it would be somebody else. >> brandon was a member of the national honor society, yauchistic minister. border patrol agents will under surveillance. the agency bought body cameras for agents to use on but it's not for their safety. no, the move is coming after accusations that agents used too much force. they will start testing the new cameras next month. and now this. barbie is a role model. but does the newest doll have a foul mouth? ♪ >> well, parents say that barbie is swearing. but mattel insists the doll is
actually saying off the hook. yes. the company say several customers have complained and you can imagine why. >> they should offer a refund for any unsatisfied customers that might be parents who tonight like to have the blurry lines. >> all right. thank you. 21 minutes before the top of the hour. clean-up in mexico following cat 3 hurricane odile in coo boase. the storm knocked down a main bridge. the storm moving into the southwestern part of the united states. millions of people prepare for what could be historic flooding like you see there in arizona. maria molina joins us right now. they've needed water down there. but right now they got too much in one spot. >> that's right. too much rain too quickly. we're talking between one and two inches of rainfall expected in some areas within just an hour. so those are very significant
rainfall rates. i want to show you on the map how much rain we've already picked up across parts of arizona, new mexico and western texas. many areas have seen two, three, locally more than four inches of rain. that storm system is still on the move. from southeastern parts of arizona through new mexico and western texas, still expecting locally up to four more inches of rain. those flash flood watches are still in effect out there. that storm system odile made landfall in cabo as category 3 hurricane and take a look at this. we have another hurricane right on the heels of that one. hurricane polo. we're going to have to watch this one closely coming up this weekend. it's forecast to move very close to cabo yet again. so we could be seeing impacts out there. otherwise here in the northeast, beautiful weather. we're looking at some sunshine and temperatures that feel very much like fall. coming up tomorrow morning, you'll be looking at some freeze warnings in effect across portions of new england and frost advisories, temperatures up there are going to be very cold. right now you're in the 50s and
40s widespread across parts of the northeast and there is a look at your high temperatures. let's head back inside. >> thank you. my furnace went on last night. it was cold. >> i'm in between. i don't know what to put on, the heat or air conditioning. >> let the furnace decide. >> okay. >> i'm going to put the coals in there, shovel some in and see what happens. coming up straight ahead, there was a common theme in yesterday's benghazi hearing. >> i do not know the answer to that. >> i do not know the answer to that, sir. i cannot answer that question for you. >> wow. it will be a long three months. the guys on the ground in benghazi have an answer. they are next. and a pop quiz for you. can you tell which of these candies is laced with pot? the answer could save your child's life. stick around. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ejl.
the select committee charged with investigating the state department's botched response to the 2012 terrorist attacks in benghazi ended yesterday's hearing with more questions than answers. >> do you know if they had the opportunity to interview the c.i.a. contractors on the ground that night who might know something about the security, as well as the other facilities in benghazi that evening? >> i do not know the answer to that, sir. >> do you know if they have had the opportunity to interview the dia people who might have known something about the intelligence and the security situation on the ground that night? >> i'm sorry, sir. i do not know the answer to that. >> wow. he does not know the answer or he says he doesn't. my next guests do. chris, known as tanto, and mark, known as. >> , former benghazi security contractors at the compound the night of the attack. they've written about this in
their new book called "13 hours." a lot of that tells things we've never seen or known before because you guys were there. first off, does it bother you -- welcome back. does it bother you, a lot of the i don't know? >> of course it does. we want answers. sometimes it feels like that's a copout answer. i think they know what's going on. maybe they're not being able to put it into words that satisfies whatever agenda they're trying to pursue, but yeah. they're the state department, they should know about what's going on, what took place there and what took place before and how to move forward. >> they also had two years to find out. >> exactly. and they have our book. read it. that will give you some answers right there. >> absolutely. >> i agree. they need to talk to the people on the ground 'cause that's where the rubber meets the road. >> in terms of security, what should have been done and what was actually done, that was brought up yesterday. here is todd keel talking about the standards at benghazi at the time. >> were the standards followed at the benghazi facility?
>> sir, we saw a memo which authorized the continual opening of the benghazi mission which referred to it as the special mission compound. in talking with people and based on my experience, it was a purposeful effort to skirt the standards. >> so the standards were followed? >> no. >> so they were not followed: did you guys know that a lot of this stuff is cutting corners, inadequate? you could sense some -- >> you could see it, yeah. you could definitely see it. mark said on several occasions when asked what does the security look like at the compound, he said well, what's security? it looked nice. but was there security? no. >> there wasn't security there. you have eight to ten acres protected by five u.s. diplomatic security agents at the most. sometimes there is as few as two there. the only security they depended on were four to five militia
members hired and four to five libyan blue mountain that were unarmed. >> and useless. >> right. >> and that's security. >> obviously that's a great term for it because when the attack happened, they left. they were gone. they weren't there on the compound when it happened that night. so can we say they were useless now because we know for a fact they were because they left. >> admiral mullen, they were supposed to do the investigation. you guys were on the ground, you weren't questioned. that's what it was about. the accountability review board, their conclusions, did they get everything they wanted? did they question the people they should? were they truly independent? >> what's your overall impression of the irb report? >> ambassador pickering said it was fiercely independent. in that same hearing, admiral mullen admitted to oversight and government reform that he was reporting on arb proceedings to the senior staff of the state department outside of the precepts and requirements of being a member of the arb, i
don't think that fits anyone's definition of being fiercely independent. >> you agree with what todd just said? >> yeah. >> i agree with that. you can't be playing both sides of the information flow and call yourself independent. the report itself, they didn't interview us. they didn't interview -- as far as i know, they didn't interview the state department people on the ground or eric nordstrom. so i don't know how that report can be actually conclusive when you're not talking to the people that were there that night. >> were you willing? >> oh, yeah. we'll talk to whoever wants to talk to us. >> the book is "13 hours." what you seen yesterday will run for three months. chris and mark, thanks so much. >> thank you for having us. elisabeth, tell me what's coming up next. it's all up to you. >> and me. >> the pop quiz coming up for you. can you tell which of these
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lollipops and they're up to 12 pounds of a powerful joint. the kids don't know the difference. hospitals are seeing a record number of them admitted for accidental marijuana ingestion and overdose. so how hard is it to tell the difference between these drugs and the overday snacks your kids love? dr. mark siegle thankfully is here from the fox news medical a team to help. good morning. >> good morning. i'm going to test you guys. this is a big problem because this year marijuana recreationally is legal in washington state and colorado. so you can buy what are called medibles. it's in cookies, candies and people can just buy it. >> sure. >> because not everybody smokes pot. some just eat or consume the pot through -- there are all sorts of companies. >> a majority of the kids that have been brought to the hospital is between ages of three and seven and the effects are astounding. do the kids know the difference?
>> let's put the pictures up. folks at home, you take the quiz along with us. >> here is the first one. tell me which cookies have the marijuana in them. which has pot, which doesn't? >> they both have m and ms on the top. >> i'd say b. >> steve? >> i say the other side. >> elisabeth is correct. it's this side. this side has the marijuana. i would have guessed the other side because this looks a little stoned, this cookie. but seriously, let's move on now to the candies. you can get five times the amount that's in a single joint in one of these candies. five times. >> which one? >> i would say these. >> i'd say those. >> this time the quiz master is right. it's this one. this one -- the point here is you can't tell the difference. >> can you tell? >> there is no difference. >> choose one. >> there. >> elisabeth is right.
it is this one. but again, if you're a kid, if you're a parent, you can't tell the difference. this is up to ten times the amount of pot in a joint. >> how much is in ha lollipop? n ten times the amount in a single joint. so if you're a kid, you get wild and anxious and then the next thing is you get lethargic and can't breathe. 10% of these kids have come into the e.r.s with trouble breathing. in colorado, nine kids have been poisoned with this in one hospital since may. >> i read one story about a kid in i want to say wisconsin ate dad's candy bar. it had 25 doses in it. she wound up going to school and all loopy. what's the >> child proofing doesn't work. my advice is don't get this stuff. if you have a kid around the house, especially a young kid, do not get the marijuana edibles because they'll eat them. they'll think it's a brownie. don't buy them. in these states, terrible. >> thank you. meanwhile, we've been asking you on this thursday which story has you most fired up. the story about a state trooper
booted from a waffle house because he was wearing his side arm, a mother in trouble for letting her son play outside. she could see him. or a kid who says he was bullied for not standing up to say the pledge. we'll reveal your winner next
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good morning. today is thursday, september 18. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. brand-new surveillance video of a missing college student shows that she was followed and the man on this tape right here has come forward. what he is telling the cops. and here is why the president is so sure there will be no boots on the ground, because he changed boots on the ground to forward deployment. more semantics from a divided white house straight ahead. and we've been asking you which story has you the most fired up. a state trooper booted from a waffle house for being armed. >> a mother in trouble for letting her son play outside, or a kid who says he was belayed
for not saying the pledge, or was it a behavior issue? your choice is revealed after i say morning with friends and the animation comes up. >> hi, you're watching "fox & friends". >> that's a woman who stopped every bullet with her wristlet. >> she was something. >> those were the days. >> all right. let's bring you up to date on what's going on of the we know isis is threatening over there, over here perhaps. we showed you a couple of -- over the last couple of days about general dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs, how he said essentially that if the situation changes, he would request the president authorize boots on the ground. yesterday joe biden said yeah, maybe boots on the ground. the white house, though, keeps doing somersaults saying absolutely not! there will be no boots on the ground! now as it turns out, they are talking about there is a
possibility of a forward deployment. this is a new phrase they're using right now, and that means essentially boots on the ground, even though we currently do over there have boots on the ground. >> right. president obama saying we're not going to put you in combat roles. we're going to forward deploy you, which was the messaging there. it's confusing 'cause you're asking for strategy, you're getting semantics. you want clarity, but now we're confused. is it war? can we do this with boots on the ground? >> the problem is, whether you're the biggest obama fan or critic, he's not a military expert and the military experts all say you need people either with troops that are on the ground instructing them, coaching them, and calling in air strikes, or you need actually our troops to do this. nobody says it's going to be the same war as the one we fought
before. many say the correct war would look like our invasion in afghanistan in 2001. former secretary of defense gates for president obama and president bush looked at the strategy as he heard it, says it's not going to work unless we fight. >> they're not going to be able to be successful against isis strictly from the air, or strictly depending on the iraqi forces or peshmerga or the sunni tribes acting on their own. so there will be boots on the ground if there is to be any hope of success in the strategy. >> that's what everybody says. so this white house has changed so many times over what the story is. remember, we don't have a strategy. okay, we got a strategy. there won't be any boots on the ground and we're not going to call it war. well, there are going to be boots on the ground, but we're going to call it forward deployment. is it going to be a war? no. it's going to be something to kill off isis. that's the whole thing.
and you know who wants to do exactly that? our military. here is former navy seal carl hillary clinton, gby talking about how they want to take the fight to isis. >> for the most part, our troops will go over there. they joined the military to fight a war, to combat the problem, to combat something threatening our homeland. these troops will go there and fight with all their heart and we are the most lethal fighting force. let us go over there, take away the rules of engagement. >> every time the president interceded and let politics play a role, it has been a disaster. it is generally i don't known tr generals recommended that we have a residual force left behind. we pulled out, look at the disaster. general austin two weeks ago, he is the general in charge of the middle east, requested u.s. troops then with the iraqi and kurdish forces. he was rejected at the mosul dam and we're still balloting to suppress eye social security who
are battling for it back. all in all, a lot of guys and a lot of women fought and they feel like it was fruitless. mark levin has a message for them. >> i want you to know that your sons and daughters are heros. they did exactly the right thing. i want to apologize to you for this phony commander in chief who cut and run. and as a result, helped build up this enemy, this isis, isil, whatever the hell it is, these terrorists, these cockroaches that we're now having to deal with or should deal with once and for all. you know what? it just amazes me, do we want to win wars anymore? because we know how to win them. we remember how we won world war ii. >> sure. so the message probably is, mr. president, just tell us the truth. there is a possibility that we might need some combat troops or some boots on the ground. in the end, don't be surprised if the number of american troops over there is probably pretty close to the number of residual
troops that were requested by many experts before we got the heck out of there. >> we're the only ones who know how to do it. it's extremely tough. nobody else knows how to do it. >> nor willing to do it, too. let our military work with the branches there together on this mission. they're willing to do it for all of us. heather childers stands by with all that's been breaking. >> we're following this breaking developments in the search for a missing university of virginia student. new surveillance video shows that she was followed. take a look. hannah graham can be seen walking through a mall in charlottesville, a man in front of her stops and follows her. two minutes later, graham walks past a jewelry shop. a few seconds later, we see the same man walking behind her. last night that man told police that he was walking with her because she seemed distressed. he says another man approached her, put his arm around graham. graham, the fourth young woman
to go missing in the same area in the past five years. to stay or not to stay? let's go live to scotland where polls are open for an historic vote. turnout is expected to be high as the voters decide whether to remain part of the united kingdom or not. several opinion polls are showing support split down the middle. we're keeping a close eye on the election because britain is a close ally, a force of independence would weaken their defense capability. the nfl's in fact violence scandal growing. two more stars benched. greg hardy was suspended after convicted of assaulting his ex girlfriends. jonathan dwyer, arizona cardinal under arrest accused of beating his wife two separate times. here is hall of famer jerry rice's take on all of this. >> i think the right thing right now is it take them off the field because it's not about football. until the situation is resolved.
it's very important to let people know that we're just not going to tolerate that and the players need to recognize that hey, look. if i do something like that, i'm going to get suspended or i could be banned from the league. >> and finally, caught on camera, look at this. a wild police chase comes to a firey end in south l.a a man and woman actually robbed that van. they took off, drove on some flat tires. that caused the sparks that you see flying from the metal rims. then they jumped on to the sidewalks, nearly taking down pedestrians near the end of the chase, the driver hit a dog. we have good news. the dog survived. the drivers were arrested. those are a look at your headlines. >> craziness. >> they ran over one of those nail strips. >> why always in los angeles? unbelievable. >> because they've got a helicopter following all those things. so they follow them, we put them on tv.
it's time for you to choose the news. we're going to tell you about the three stories we've been details this morning and tell you which has infuriated you the most. first waffle house in grapevine, texas, where a state trooper, who is also a chopper pilot for the texas state troops went into that location, wearing his uniform and he got yelled at by the manager. he said, you're wearing a gun. you got to get out of there. now waffle house is apologizing and said we didn't realize that he was in uniform. >> which is wrong. >> it's different. but the trooper says he felt humiliated because of the way the manager yelled at him from across the room. >> exactly. second story was a school being accused of bullying a child asked to stand outside the class because he did not want to say the pledge of allegiance. he was told to stand outside if he wasn't going to stand. the superintendent was a veteran and he said i didn't want him to disturb and distract the other
children who wanted to say the pledge. so they put him outside. atheist group and parents saying that child was belayed. >> you're not supposed to reveal. the neighbors called the cops on a mom of three who let her six-year-old play outside. she was watching through the window. the cops come and ask her a bunch of questions. she really feels as though this nosey neighbor ruined her life. so now we put it up to you. we said what story bothers you the most? most intrigues you? >> 60% of you were bothered by the pledge bullying story where the child was asked to step outside after not standing and saying the pledge of allegiance. >> a quarter of you bugged by the cop who was asked to leave the waffle house and 16% about the nosey neighbor. it's interesting on the story on the pledge out of newtown, north dakota, apparently the father of the kid would not stand.
he said we're trying to raise free thinkers and that's why he didn't want his child to stand up. then they were asked to go out in the hall where you know what? the kid could have done some free thinking. >> right. >> here is what you're saying on facebook. deb says if you don't want to say he doesn't want to hear it either, so problem solved. a stand in the hall. >> on facebook, sherry said, i do not agree he should have had to stand in the hallway, if we're allowed our right to say it, then he should have been allowed his right to say it. that does not mean i condone. >> another says i was brought up to say the pledge of allegiance. sing the star spangled banner and always respect the flag of this great nation. how can other countries respect us if we don't start demanding those basic respects? be respected. so anyway, continue to e-mail us
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stopping home grown terror in its tracks, that's a program being launched by feds in the twin cities to root out extremists being recruited by groups like isis and al-shabab. >> we're engaged with community leaders and we're engaged with concerned members of the public who are abhorred by what they see with respect to their young people and want to stop it. >> is this too little too late?
joining us is investigative reporter tom lyden. thanks for being with us this morning. initially what are your instincts about this program? you've seen it before. >> in some ways that is kind of the attitude here. we've seen things like this before. back in 2009 there was another federal grant, more federal money. that was two years after we had about 24 young people leave to go fight for al-shabab in somalia. the purpose this time, the goal, according to the u.s. attorney here, is going to be different. last time they had more of a law enforcement emphasis. this time they want to go after why we're having young people radicalized in the so place, disenfranchised young people unemployed, who might otherwise be recruited by the gang members. they really want to target them with youth programs like one we have here, small programs, doesn't get hardly any government funding. most of it's private. what they do is started up boy scout camps for somali kids, after school programs for the older teen-agers. they have spoken words. things that go after these kids
who may not have a job, english may not be spoken at home. and they're just prime recruiting for radical islamists who want to take these kids, give them some larger purpose. they tell them hey, your life may be meaningless. guess what? you can fight for the caliphate in syria and iraq. that will give broader purpose to your life. in some ways they really want to go after the root causes this time. >> getting into their hearts before evil does. how are they handling entering houses of worship, observing them without crossing the line into violation of rights? it may get tricky. >> it is tricky. i got to tell you, one member of the somali member said they want to work with the mosque. he said i want to make sure they're working with the right mosque. i don't want to have government resources or government money going to someone who, behind closed doors, is actually trying to radicalize people. the u.s. attorney here has a very good sense of that. he's been meeting with lots of local imams, loss of religious leaders. but it's fine line of the one of
the things we know is that there is intelligence on the ground. there are undercover f.b.i. agents who are gathering information, gathering informants. but there is also some suspicion in the somali community, when they hear about programs like this, they're worried is this really just a guise to get federal agents into programs and start monitoring us? so there is some natural suspicion on behalf of the somali community. >> isn't that part of the failure and the reason behind the failure in the past of these programs is lack of trust? >> it is. i got to tell you, it is a hard community to get into. the somali community here estimated about 70,000 to 100,000, no one has really precise numbers on it, but we're talking about community with four different clans. and under that, a bunch of different subclans. in many ways, some of the issues that have played out in somalia played out here. there's a lot of distrust of not only the authorities, but within the community itself. there are lots of clan
divisions. it's very hard to pierce that community and they've been trying for a very, very long time to build up those human connections, law enforcement and otherwise. >> of course. hopefully they're checking into the social media being used as a recruiting tool. good to see you. >> thank you. so many of you e-mailed us yesterday about this story. american flags confiscated on september 11. what do we do? we tracked down one of the moms who was so disgusted by what happened, she is fighting back. hear from h just ahead. and then, you know her as winnie cooper from "the wonder years." what is she up to now? danica is here walking into the studio with some huge news for you. ♪ ♪ [ hoof beats ]
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>> that's it. can you use a million dollars? >> wow. becoming the third person to win $1 million in the grand prize "wheel of fortune" by solving the puzzle. word is she's happy. >> it pays off once again. meanwhile, farewell, family meals. we spoke to a fed up father who readjusted the routine at his house to have kid-free dinners. here is how he explained his decision yesterday on "fox & friends". >> the fact is, parents and kids come to tables with different agendas. the kids come to the table with the agenda of fueling themselves as quickly as possible. >> they want to eat. >> they want to eat. they want chaos and pandemonium and they want to go. when i had dinner with my wife, we like to sit down. we like to taste our food. we like to be able to relax. so it's a -- not everyone's needs can get met. >> we're going to have to respond. mom danica joins us now with her
reaction to that. >> i'm a little horrified. to me, if you have kids, expect the chaos, embrace the time together. if you want a quiet dinner with your spouse, when they turn 18, you'll have that and then have date night. >> if there is a chicken manage nugget or something flying in the room, right? >> family dinner is huge. togetherness is family. everyone is so busy, dinner is the time when you get to sit down. >> we feel the same at our house. what he was talking about, and he's an editor at large at time magazine. he said his kids are at the stage where they don't want to be there. they want to be somewhere else. so why don't they eat, he'll sit next to them. then when they're done, he and his wife will eat. >> everyone has to make their own decisions. but for me, i embrace that time. >> i say, and i know you like math, i'm doing one clean-up. not two. >> right. not at all. i know tbt is today.
we love it. did you bring us a throwback for us? >> i did. >> we have six and 7th grade. >> how adorable. >> were you famous there? >> you know, i think i was about to shoot the pilot. >> really? >> yeah. >> i think we have another. there you go. >> winnie cooper. >> very winnie cooper. >> now try to identify us. after winnie cooper, here comes -- oh, my goodness. remember when people had hair like a helmet? my wife would have a problem with that. >> you look the same. >> pretty much. >> here is elisabeth. >> there i am. >> didn't you pose for any pictures? >> there i was in my portfolio. >> this is like a surveillance shot. you don't even pose for pictures then.
>> that's me. i had to cover my ears. there i am. i think in 12th grade. >> that's cute. >> i was watching you on "wonder years." >> you have some brand-new news. >> we went about it on social media. >> are you talking about -- >> yes! >> look at this. yes, i'm engaged. >> thank you so much. >> there is more right there. >> he's amazing. he took me to england and we stayed in a castle in the forest and he proposed there. unbelievable. >> i see how happy you are. we saw in your kid photos how happy -- you have a special message about smiling. >> yes. as a mom, i'm extremely excited to join colgate smile for picture day campaign. the idea is help families prepare for picture day by educating kids on how to secure their smiles.
of course the picture day thing is an excuse for year round tooth health. >> sure. >> i read 45% of parents feel guilty for not paying enough attention to their kids' teeth. >> you don't have to feel guilty anymore. i have four tips, visit the dentist regularly, two, brush together. eat dinner together, brush together. three, motivate them. explain why it's important and a really easy way is to download the free colgate tooth defender app. fun games teaching kids about cavities. >> flossing fun. >> making floss fun. >> four is actually practice for picture day. like try taking pictures of the kids and i have a cute tip to get a genuine smile, tell an inside joke or tell them -- imagine the photographer is wearing underwear with rainbows and unicorns on it. okay, smile. you know what i mean?
kids, they're not professionals. >> exactly. >> with my kid, he's four years old, but to get him to smile -- they smile. >> the parents that look at these pictures goes, we got to retake these. then the kid gets hurt. >> that will help them. >> also i'm a little aggravated at you, danica. you have not been showing up at the meetings. the mensa meetings. we're in mensa meeting. >> i've never joined mensa. i've never had my i.q tested. >> no wonder i'm by myself. i'm not mad at you anymore. >> brian, you're not a member of mensa. you're a member of mimosa. >> is there a difference?
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cheese from st. louis. we grate it and melt it on our burger, grilled peppers, onions and mushrooms on a pretzel bun. >> the cool thing is how you get burgers to be burgers. can you smash a burger? >> that's why they call them smash burgers. >> but i've never seen it in push. >> it's key to the success of smash burgers. we take certified angus beef, seals in all the juices so they percolate, and base in their own juice. >> it apparently works. >> he's a modest guy, but he's part of an american fast food history. when you were at pizza hut, you created stuffed crust pizza and when you were at mcdonald's, you invented mcgriddles. >> i did. >> now smash burgers. >> how do you come a concept officer? >> i studied food at michigan state. i was really interested in
marketing and i kind of fell into it over the course of years, just fine tuning what i really loved to do. it's really great. i get to do every day what i love. >> i think most people sit around and wish i could combine this and this and you do it. >> i do. it's great. my kids will tell you i have the best job in the world. >> these are coming off the grill right now. >> this is our gluten free bun. i understand somebody needs that. that's our twin cities burger. >> i'm so happy. >> these are all ready to eat, guys. >> send it over to heather inside. i'll bring you a burger. >> thank you. bring me a burger. that looks really good. some serious headlines to bring you. breaking overnight, a brutal terror plot foiled. isis calling for the kidnapping
and beheading of innocent people in a major city. 15 suspected terrorists were arrested in australia's largest ever counterterrorism operation. the country now raising its terror threat to the second highest level. a fox news exclusive now for the first time we are hearing from the parents of brandon tevlin, murdered by a suspected jihaddist. brown reportedly told police that he murdered the 19-year-old as pay back for u.s. military involvement in the middle east. >> in our opinion, he is a murderer and in this case, they don't think he acted alone. >> definitely he was looking to kill somebody. he changed his clothes. he was there to do what he did and what he accomplished. in some ways i think why was it our son? if it wasn't him, it would be somebody else.
>> brandon was a member of the national honor society, a eucharistic minister and fund his first year at university of richmond. some e-mailed us about this story. american flags confiscated on september 11. the flags were on students' cars. the school removed them. a rule determines they were a distraction. we tracked down one mom who was so disgusted by what happened, she is fighting back. >> our american flag is our symbol. it's different than any other flag that's out there. it was taken those children's rights away and i felt like they needed a voice. >> the school now taking a look at that policy to see if it should be changed. and video everyone will be talking about. a chicago cubs fan catches a homerun ball, but as he is giving all this high fives, he loses something pretty
important, his wedding ring. >> moment of euphoria immediately we'll be right backed. >> i love the play by play. there is a happy ending here, the camera guy later spotted the ring on the track at the edge of the field and he got his ring back. paradise is being destroyed. look at this new video. a bridge that we're going to show new cabo, mexico. the storm moving into the united states. what can we expect? let's go outside to mar for more on that -- maria for more on that. >> we have extreme weather out across parts of the southwestern u.s. look at how much rain has already come down out here across southeastern parts of arizona, new mexico, and western texas with many areas picking up over three inches of rain. we are still expecting several
additional inches of rain here. so those watches are still in effect and flood warnings could be reissued as we continue to see flooding occurring out there with the heavy rain moving in. now, a lot of that flooding is occurring because of what was odile. that storm made landfall a few days ago across cabo. look at this in the eastern pacific ocean, we have another hurricane, polo. this is going to be coming very close to the southern portions of the california baha out there. it will be a big concern. temperature wise right now this morning, you're in the 40s across portions of new england. you'll be even colder come tomorrow morning out there with temperatures in the 20s and 30s. that's the forecast. your highs, for today, making it into the 90s across texas. let's head back inside. >> it's a busy weather day on this national cheeseburger day. 19 minutes before the top of the hour. fox news alert. all eyes on scotland this morning as it is voting underway in the country. why you should care and how it could impact america's markets.
nicole petallides live at the new york stock exchange to break it all down very shortly. good morning to you. >> and he was booted from "meet the press." not allowed to say good-bye. this morning david gregory is getting the last word. ♪ ♪
welcome back. quick headlines now. david gregory may have been silenced when he left "meet the press." but this morning he is getting the last word. he had this to say about journalism in washington. quote, things that frighten the narrative get harder to report, i think often because of laziness in the media, end quote. and jay carney, the former white house press secretary turned cnn contributor says he's biased about the president, saying
this, quote, i ain't going to express my views, but it would be disingenuous to pretend i wasn't loyal to the president. and speaking of politics, democrats may be turning on dnc head debbie wasserman schultz. reports of an internal struggle between her and the white house after a series of public slugs, including comments about scott walker, hasn't been sitting so well with them. fox news alert, labor department releasing brand-new weekly jobless numbers. nicole petallides is live on the floor of the new york stock exchange and the numbers are, ma'am? >> they're looking pretty good here. let's break it down. 280,000. so that was better than what was expected. the consensus for this was 305,000. you don't want too many claims. you don't want them above 300,000. so that's good news there. that shows obviously a recovery.
it shows people are holding on to their jobs. that ultimately is good news. we've had an uneven recovery. we got in our housing starts today. building permits. those were weaker today. so it shows a mixed bag. we got the fed yesterday talking and obviously leaving those rates near zero for now. >> also, over at the "fox business" network, all day long they're covering the vote in scotland, whether or not to become independent of the united kingdom. how would that impact us here in the united states financially? >> what's interesting here is that obviously if they do not go independent, that's where the markets are getting on right now, that's why you're seeing futures with an up arrow. if they were to become independent, that could affect currencies, the pound in particular. that could go weaker. the dollar would be exceptionally strong. we don't necessarily want that. maybe european banks, that's the story there. this is an historic time.
you're talking about over 300 years of history. i know they have oil. i know they have scotch and the like. but we'll know by the end of the day. maybe we'll get a better feeling after the closing bell. so today will be a sort of uneven trading. this is where ali baba will trade. there will be a huge crowd. it could be the largest ipo ever. baba is the ticker symbol. tomorrow this will be a very big crowded trading post. >> you're all alone today. big crowd tomorrow. all right. thank you. meanwhile, it's 12 minutes before the top of the hour on this thursday. thousands of illegals are coming to the united states. john stossel says that's a good thing. why he says we should relax the rules and embrace the people from other lands. first we're going to check in with bill hemmer for what's coming up at the top of the hour. >> good morning to you. there is a major plot busted you mentioned this earlier.
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federal agencies each year. our next guest says america needs immigrants. john stossel host of "stossel" at fox business joins us live. >> i'm glad you corrected that. i don't say we want illegal immigrants. immigrants are good. >> we're a nation of immigrants. but people are concerned about the sudden -- the deluge of people coming across. >> it's awful that there is a swarm right there, but we have a smaller percentage of immigrants at the moment than we've had in the past. but these statistics come from an anti-immigration group. 47% are on welfare. 39% need food assistance. 35% use medicaid. wait a second. you're not eligible if you're an illegal immigrant for welfare. yes, their children use some of these services and more of them use welfare than americans 'cause more of them are poor. but the national research council, which is much better research, says if you include their children and what these
immigrants do later in life, they contribute on average $83,000 to america. >> you run through some of the companies that you claim are started by immigrants. >> they are. ebay, radio shack, sara lee, kraft food. blow dryers, all kinds of good stuff. >> we would still be towel drying if it wasn't for immigrants. >> i think we're just dealing with legal immigration and not illegal, these things wouldn't be argued. >> they can't get here legally. the waiting list, i want to say go back, apply and do it right. obey the law. if you're an indian computer programmer, you get here in 35 years. if you're a mexican high school student, 130 years. we're supposed to say obey the law. wait 130 years. >> so you're encouraging people, if you want to become an american, you're going to have to break the law? >> i don't want -- we should change the law to make it -- >> no doubt.
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talking about all the problems with the nfl. i think it's especially noteworthy when superstars sound off about some of the issues. says he doesn't like to see children being hurt. tells parents to go home and hug their children and it talks about how much you should covet your time in the nfl. that's in the daily news. it just got worse with the news that we were greeted with this morning. >> sure is interesting to hear eli's take. do not mess with a woman nine months pregnant. she chased him down after he swiped her purse outside a grocery store and knocked her to the ground. the woman finally grabbed him and held him down until the police got there. here is the best part, just hours later, she gave birth to a healthy baby. thank goodness. >> that's right. and finally, reilly the four-year-old dog and his owner jump from a plane. the san francisco photographer, he's completed more than 400
jumps. this is his first with his dog dangling right there. >> make it a great day. happy birthday to the air force. it's also national cheeseburger day. >> after the show show next. bill: want to start with a fox news alert. a major terror plot busted in australia with direct ties to isis. their plot was to kidnap innocents, publicly behead them and post it online. martha: this is the world we are living in where we report stories like this. hundreds of australian officials