Doing their business. This might actually start on time. Mike pompeo doesnt get enough attention. There is two scenarios, he was helping to orchestrate the off book Political Campaign run by donald trump and Rudy Giuliani, or he was oblivious to what was being done to all of his employees. He was asked repeatedly to defend her, and we have on the record in testimony a call from the State Department to yovanovitch at 1 00 in the morning where they say we need to get you out on the next plane. What did he do . I think the fact pattern is just as par real for mike cpompeo as trump. We know that mike pompeo was listening in on the phone call of which donald trump said of that former ambassador. That bad woman, bad things are going to happen to her and her former boss, secretary pompeo didnt do anything. Lisa, you work at the State Department for a republican administration. What impact does this have on the state Department Today and in the future. I agree with nicole that i think pompeo w
that bad woman, bad things are going to happen to her and her former boss, secretary pompeo didn t do anything. lisa, you work at the state department for a republican administration. what impact does this have on the state department today and in the future. i agree with nicole that i think pompeo will ultimately suffer as much fallout as trump. you hear from former colleagues who are just horrified by what is going down in the building, and rex tillerson s administration may not have been that popular, but now, you hear people saying well, he decimated the foreign service, but it wasn t like he was just out w d outwardly hostile. people are pet trrified of retribution, of the lawlessness, and if you step up against that
whether to impeach this president, a decision that could come this fall. wolf. manu raju reporting. thank you very much. also tonight the secretary of state mike pompeo apparently is feeling the heat. as the ukraine scandal plays out and veteran diplomats testify in the impeachment probe. let s bring in kylie atwood here in the situation room with me. secretary pompeo over recent weeks have been frustrated and that is for two primary reasons. first of all, senior state department officials have resigned in the face of this impeachment inquiry. and also he has faced increasing criticism for not defending ambassador yovanovitch, the ambassador who was abruptly forced to be removed from ukraine from her post there. if you we have heard from ambassador mckinley one of the u.s. officials that quit his job that he was frustrated that secretary pompeo didn t come out and defend the ambassador yovanovitch against this smear campaign. but what we ve also learned in
points that secretary pompeo laid out on behalf of donald trump and negotiate a genuine and verifiable end to their nuclear program, then we could have a different kind of relationship with iran, and that would be much to benefit of the iranian people as the president laid out yesterday. chris: but it would seem to me in any case that the prospects that iran you re basically talking about the islamic regime completely changing its colors, completely changing the way it acts. you ve got the iranian revolutionary guard, you ve got hard-line, hard-liners in tehran, do you think that the prospect of american capitalism is going to get them to change that? that s why i say a healthy dose of skepticism is warranted when you re dealing with regimes like the ayatollah s. secretary pompeo didn t ask them to turn into a western european-style parliamentary democracy. heed is ask them to stop committing acts of terrorism, stop trying to overthrow governments in the region, stop
he s doubling down in this speech and in this campaign by saying i don t need those people this time. i m going to focus on my base and try to depress turnout for the other side. i think that is going to be his strategy. democrats have an opportunity to go after those people in the middle. the winner of this election is the person who wakes up and realizes they ve got to take their base and cement it to a majority of the small number of truly independent, undecided chris: would you agree donald trump hasn t done that yet? no, look, campaigns are about phasing. if he started out saying i m appealing to my base, there was a brilliant column in the wall street journal thursday morning, surprised you didn t read it chris: was that by you? yes, of course. [laughter] it suggested the president needed to mitigate the animosity of people towards him, that 50 some percent that said i ll never vote for him and focus his campaign on chris: you ve got ten seconds.