okay, don't ignore those guys, you know. they're just somebody else, but see how these guys are all obstructionists. i mean, that's their whole strategy. >> at this point. and the thing with hester, and manchin is they're up. >> who else is up is scott brown in massachusetts. >> he is the one -- >> in question. >> that's really interesting. >> that's who schumer was hinting at, although he's a big elizabeth warren person now. that's the one i'm told, well, he may come over to them. >> maybe he gets them to 50. >> but is that, you know -- >> democrats plus scott brown -- >> it's a 50/50. phil musser, that mottles the message for, frankly, both sides. gridlocked senate again. >> that's the bottom line. as you saw from senator ott, if you can't win over new england republicans on this jobs package, then you're obviously going to see another partisan fault line. the message to the country is more internal partisan bickering and a lack of a clear path forward. i think this bill's a nonstarter at the end of the day and we'll