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but the flip side of that for lots of people in your party, nick, is that it entrenches the sort of special status of the nhs and somehow puts it kind of beyond reproach. you can t say anything mean about it, you can t have a proper debate about it and it isjust going to keep gobbling up. it is now more than 40% of national income. and for people in your party who traditionally like to think of themselves as low tax conservatives, that is something that is quite uncomfortable. it is 40% of government spending. sorry! what do you make of that? also, you knew boris johnson well. you then rather changed your opinion of him, you are no fan, it is fair to say. why do you think he has done this? because he is a shameless

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