♪ did you ever know that you're my hero ♪ >> the stuff they got away with because it's a cartoon. the father strangling the child. >> why you little -- >> we are going to keep on trying to strengthen the american family to make american families a lot more like the waltons and a lot less like the simpsons. >> we go to a completely bizarre period of time in 1992 when a sitting president is raging against a sitcom. >> they have dealt with politics. they have dealt with popular culture. they've dealt with all kinds of issues of racism, of sexism. >> don't ask me, i'm just a girl. >> right on, say it, sister. >> it's not funny, bart. millions of girls will grow up thinking this is the right way to act. >> they have found a way to talk about everything that's going on in our lives through the filter of "the simpsons."
>> american network television has long been considered the home of the blands, the cautious and the predictable. so it was with some trepidation that it the abc network launched a new series that was none of those things. "twin peaks" is already described by one critic as the series that will change tv. it's directed by david lynch. >> david lynch was a filmmaker known for his taste in the eccentric and memorable. the idea that he would do television in the '90s was crazy. >> do you watch much of it? >> i like the idea of television, but i'm too busy to see very much of it. >> what do you think of that which you do see? >> some of it i really enjoy. >> are you being diplomatic? >> sort of. [ screaming ] >> the beautiful thing about television is you have the chance to do a continuing story. and that's the main reason for doing it.
>> i think that "twin peaks" with the initial attention it got allowed all the other networks to say, let's do something different. >> no more schools, no more asin plexes. >> you can sense trying to see how they could do things different than they have done five or ten years ago. sometimes that led to really challenging network television that was cool and fun to watch. sometimes it just seemed to fall off the edge a little bit. ♪ let's be careful out there >> at the time, steven bochco was a very successful producer of hour dramas and wanted to try something brand-new. >> we're the police! we have a warrant for your arrest.
>> so his idea was to combine a gritty cop show with a broadway musical. >> i saw one in which a bunch of gang bangers were in jail. they began to sing. life in the hood ain't no pizza pie, everybody die when the bullets fly. ♪ life in the hood ain't no pizza pie, people die when bullets fly ♪ >> and i said wait a minute. i thought this is it. this is great. this is going to be as innovative as anything i have ever done. ♪ he is guilty, he is guilty, judge, you can see it in his eyes ♪ ♪ he did the crime and now he's got to pay ♪ >> it circled the drain.
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so i came up with a notion of doing a cop show that was r-rated. when abc's broadcast standards read our script, they went berserk. >> i was sitting with a pad and a pencil drawing pictures of breasts to try to show them what we would show and what we wouldn't show. grown-ups sitting in a room doodling. >> then we started on the language. >> we heard it with the brains of a flea and the balls of a moth. >> the program premiered with an advertising boycott. >> channel 7, shame on you! >> but it was such an immediate hit, that boycott lasted, oh, four weeks. >> they could use the nudity and the curse words to go deeper into the actual emotional burden of being a cop. >> i'm an asshole.
>> and it had this character, andy sipowicz. he is a raging alcoholic, racist, sexist, violent. he created the tv anti-hero. >> i know the great african-american george washington carver discovered the peanut. but can you provide names and addresses of these friends? >> you know, you're a racist scumbag. >> despite his flaws, despite his prejudices, i think people identified with his pain. >> i wish there was a way to say this that wouldn't hurt you. >> there's a famous episode where they are investigating the rape and murder of a young boy. and they find a homeless child molester who murdered the kid and sipowicz to get the confession has to be very sensitive and very good cop. >> i know this has to be tearing you up inside. but you're going to feel a lot better if you just tell the truth. >> you can sort of see on dennis franz's face this is killing him to not destroy this guy right now.
finally, he gets the confession he gets the signed statement. he walks out of the room, he goes into another interrogation room and he breaks the door in two with his fist. and i'm choking up talking about it right now, because that's how great a moment of tv that it is. >> 20 years from now, the best tv dramas, what do they look like? >> i don't know. >> will they be bolder than what we see today? >> oh, assuredly, assuredly they will be. >> the '90s gave us several shows that didn't explode in the ratings, but were influential to other people making television. "homicide" is one of them. ♪ shell me with questions all night ♪ ♪ i'm living in a danger zone >> "homicide: life on the street" was really innovative in terms of its style. it used music in ways that advanced the narrative and also used feature film directors that brought a look and style to the
show that really stood out on television. >> tears coming out of your eyes. >> ain't no tears coming from my eyes. >> those eyes are brimming with tears. >> they had so many african-american characters in the cast that on several occasions they were the only people on camera interacting with one another. and that sounds like, so? but as late as the '90s, that wasn't done on television. >> when a cop shoots somebody, he stands by. he picks up the radio mic and calls it in. he stands by the body. if not, cops are no better than anybody else. >> in the '90s, television was getting more complicated, stories were starting to become more episodic and characters were starting to develop and change. none of that happened on "law & order." >> this was a show that completely delivered on its formula every time. you get a crime, you got the investigation into the crime. >> you better be packing more than a dirty mouth. >> you got an arrest. >> what's the charge?
hey, i'm asking you a question. what's the charge? >> there's no charge. this one's on us. >> then you had a trial. >> he's badgering, your honor. >> sit down and shut up. >> overruled. you will address the court from now on, mr. mccoy. >> so every time you watched you got what you came for. >> tell me, doctor. all those women you ran through your examination rooms, do you remember their faces or did you not even bother to look up? >> you had in "law & order" the kind of characters people take to heart. >> i'll let you take me to lunch. one-time offer. >> and if you're an actor and you say well, gee, maybe it's not really such a bad medium after all. >> miranda, the supreme court's mimic decision. the whole thing was illegally obtained. they were both represented by counsel. >> you just get hooked in. it's life and death and stuff. >> we know what you did. >> counsel. >> you hear me? >> do you hear me? >> look at me!
>> "law & order" was like crack. you'd have to sit and watch me for 50 minutes just like, not moving, barely breathing. there's times i have almost passed out watching "law & order." >> i need your help. >> "e.r." had originally been written as a movie, forced steven spielberg to direct. we had this two-hour piece which was michael's reflection of experiences as a medical student. >> you need a large in case they're bleeding. do you know how to start an i.v.? >> actually, no. >> "e.r." is a hospital show, but it's really an action movie. >> three walking wounded. red urgent, yellow critical and black a gurney. >> got it. >> a gurney comes in, people are shouting instructions, climbing on the body and doing cpr and racing off to the surgical suite. >> get that gurney out of there!
>> someone wanders in. they're tossing around medical jargon. they don't stop to explain what it is. prep for a peritoneal lavage. i think i know what that is now, but only because i watched a lot of "e.r." over the years. >> you try. >> we can bypass him. >> that would be the fastest way. what do you think? >> you're the attending. >> there was so much information coming at you that i think it made the experience feel as if you had to watch it in the same way that you'd watch a film. you had to stay involved in it the whole time. >> come on, ben. hold on, buddy. hold on. >> there was a lot of research that said people didn't want to watch anybody have anything other than a happy outcome. >> it's not flat line, it's defib. another line of epi. >> we argued that wasn't really showing what the world was for physicians.
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you must never miss an opportunity to tell these people how much they mean to you. >> we had been through so much together. you spend so much time with the same set of people, it does become your family. >> i feel pretty lucky to have the friends i do. >> i think the legacy of "cheers" is our need to belong. and i think that's what we as americans are longing for. >> thank you, guys. >> the final scene of "cheers" was really what was sam's real first love. >> you can never be unfaithful to your one true love. >> i'm the luckiest son of a -- on earth. >> his real first love was the bar. >> sorry, we're closed.
how big of a loss was this for nbc? >> out of the sad, sad sorrow and being scared to death that i would quickly lose my job i was like what are we going to do? >> in the 90s cable was coming on strong. we had to examine who we are going to be. we wanted to be smart, sophisticated comedy. >> six months ago i was living in boston. my wife had left me, which was very painful. then she came back to me. which was excruciating. >> i thought frasier was dead with "cheers." but we thought, we got a built-in audience, and great
potential to build out the character to another place. ♪ >> "frasier" was kind of like one-act plays. ♪ >> mother and i moved here when i was a small boy after the tragic death of my father. i kept the pain of that loss buried deep within me like a serpent coiled within a damp cave. okay, that's it. >> we always assumed the audience was smarter than most other people did. and we played to that. >> just unschooled like liza doolittle. >> henry higgins. she'll be ready for a ball in no time. >> leave it to you to put the pig back in pygmalion. >> kelsey grammar played pom positive like nobody you've ever seen and got huge laughs. >> don't consider a move until my fingers have completely cleared the piece. >> what's taking so long? >> but i am analyzing my options
unlike your wing-it approach i like to plan a strategy, like a general leading his troops into battle. >> checkmate, schwarzkopf. >> i think "frasier" stands as the single most successful spinoff, at least in the history of sitcoms. >> and the emmy goes to "frasier." >> "frasier." >> "frasier." >> at the height of must-see tv, thursday nights on nbc, 75 million americans watched thursday night. that was at the time one-third of the country. >> ooh! what is this stuff? >> the sweater is angora. >> well, it's wonderful. >> the machine that was nbc in the '90s for comedy was untouchable. >> you're not from around here, are you? >> it generated so much viewership and money and awards. >> you do not need this. >> it's the top of our wedding
cake. >> we're not -- it's not a scrapbook, it's a freezer. >> no! >> we were all kind of part of >> we certainly associate nbc of the '90s of having extremely successful sitcoms but they weren't the only network that found their way to having some success. tgif was on abc on friday, and it was their block of family-oriented comedies. >> i can't take it. i need the cake. >> it was not sophisticated television. but these were shows that people adored. [ laughing and snorting ] >> cbs. >> cbs was in a really bad spot. they had just fallen apart over the early part of the '90s and had gone through a couple different network executives. >> but then suddenly they had this hit with an unknown comic.
this was the year of seinfeld, no hugging, no learning, and this was a show being made as if it was produced in the era of the dick van dyke show. >> i love you. >> there was hugging. there was learning. >> i love you, son. >> all right, all right. >> if you worked for me, your job was so go home, get in a fight with your wife and come back in and tell me about it. >> don't sleep on the couch. i just cleaned down there. >> in fact, the pilot i put in this true thing that happened to me wherein i sent my parents a gift for the holidays of the fruit of the month club. >> and did you know you sent me a box of pears from a place called fruit of the month. >> that's right. that's right. how are they? >> and my mother reacted as if i had sent her a box of heads from a murderer. >> why did you do this to me? >> oh my gosh. >> i can't talk. there's too much fruit in the house! >> oh! what is happening? >> what do you think we are, invalids?
we can't go out and get our own fruit? >> i tried to tell him. >> all right. i'm cancelling the fruit club. >> the real story is where the real connection with your audience is. thank god, all your families are crazy, too. >> looks like you got the whole family together. >> yeah, yeah, it's dysfunction palooza.
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well, sensationalism sells. >> in a plea bargain, 18-year-old amy fisher got up to 15 years in prison for shooting the wife of her alleged lover. >> so intense is the interest in it this case there are three, three made-for-tv movies now in the works about it. >> you make money off sex. you make money off death. you make money off crime. >> the press calls the case the beverly hills mansion murders. the story reads like a script that circulates here in hollywood. >> we enter into the television news soap opera. >> a story of basic instincts, anger and fear. >> i was scared and i just wanted him to leave me alone. >> and so, broadcast journalism loses its purity and becomes much more shoddy and sensationalistic. and then it all comes together with o.j. simpson. >> i'm larry carrol in los angeles. the los angeles district attorney has just filed murder
charges against o.j. simpson. >> i have to interrupt this call. i understand we're going to go to a live picture in los angeles. police believe that o.j. simpson is in that car? >> the o.j. simpson story starts with the chase and then goes on to his arrest and then culminates with the trial, which goes on and on and on and is televised day after day after day. >> this is going to be a long trial. there's a lot of evidence to come in. >> the o.j. simpson case was such a national phenomenon that those of us who were covering it just lived this case 24 hours a day because there was so much demand for people talking about it. >> as simpson struggled to slide the gloves on to his hands and turned to a juror saying "they're too small," prosecutors were incensed. >> the trial was on television during the hours that had traditionally been the time for soap operas. >> he appears to have pulled the
gloves on, counsel. >> and o.j. was very much a soap opera. >> impeached by his own witness. >> i ask you to put a stop to it. >> excuse me, mr. bailey. will you stand up and speak when it's your turn. >> no question that the best tv show of the '90s was the o.j. simpson trial, and everybody on it was riveting. >> the simpson trial finally winding to a close. >> we the jury in the above entitled action find orenthal james simpson not guilty of the crime of murder. in violation of penal code section 187-a -- >> the verdict of the o.j. simpson trial viewed by 150 million people. it's more people than watch presidential election returns. that's crazy. >> because there was trial footage every day, cnn saw its audience increase like five times. the success of cnn was not lost on other people.
and so there were competing forces coming into play. >> how delighted i am we have now reached this moment when we can firmly announce the starting of a fox news channel. >> unfortunately, with cable news and the ability -- or the need to be on the air 24/7, where you try to get as many eyeballs as possible at one time, to gravitate toward those stories that are sensational, it brought us the ability to go too far. >> is the jonbenet ramsey murder investigation turning into a media circus? >> yes, it's tabloid. but on the other hand it's a tabloid era. here's the point. here's where the fear comes into it, i think, larry. it's the fear that says, gosh, if we don't cover it big time, our competition is. when they cover it big time, they'll get a big jump in the ratings. the first thing is to last, to last and survive, we've got to do it. >> what you also see is a whole
army of commentators, people who make their business talking about the news. >> what i say is what we should do is we should bomb his capability of producing oil. take out his refineries, his stations, his wells. >> they don't have any capability. >> they're certainly selling a lot of oil -- >> no they're not -- >> the networks were doing good journalism but they became much more preoccupied by profits. it's much cheaper to have someone in your studio pontificating than to have reporters out in the field reporting. >> i don't know if any of this is true. but what i heard is that the father went down, opened his basement room, which the fbi had bypassed. >> every single sentence on cnn, perhaps, on cnbc, on fox, on msnbc, begins with the words "i think" but after a while people get confused by what is speculation, by what is innuendo, by what is fact. and as far as the viewer is concerned, be very, very careful
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in the mid-1990s if you took a look at the list of the 50 most-watched shows on cable, at the top would be nickelodeon. "rug rats," "blues clues." >> don't you know cartoons will ruin your mind? >> "ren and stimpy" had some very surreal, high-concept humor to it. this is the beginning of the splintering of the television audience and splintering of the family audience, really, because with families having three or four tvs in the house you had a kid watching nickelodeon, the dad watching espn sports, the mom watching lifetime. you know, they were in their own separate universes watching television. by the time of the '90s, mtv wasn't merely a music channel. they were having great success in terms of creating shows that incorporated music but that also were shows and programs that stood on their own. >> yes! >> huh huh huh!
huh huh huh! huh huh huh! that was cool! >> "beavis and butthead" established what mtv could be because the shows were about making fun of music videos just like people in the audience were doing. >> whoa, check out his neck. >> yeah. there's like all these bones and stitches moving around. >> yeah. >> my manager would call me, like, hey, you got this big bump because you were on "beavis and butthead" last night. >> i sit there like a doughnut watching these guys. and i find them endlessly entertaining because i know and you know and the world knows, these guys are always, will be, and cannot be anything but idiots. >> that's right. >> mtv has a detrimental, damaging, developmental effect on the sexuality, on the morality, on the spirituality, maybe even the physical development of our young people.
♪ >> now we hit the '90s and once you can go for an audience of 5 million and have a successful show, you can say, i don't care if the parents don't like this. >> can i tell you something, miss ellen? >> of course, wendy. >> don't [ bleep ] with me! >> what? >> you heard me. stay away from my man, bitch, or i'll whoop your sorry little ass back to last year! >> trey parker and matt stone were two of the funniest people i ever met. and their success story is proof that if you just stay true to yourself, you don't have to do anything else. >> people think, oh, you came and did the show and now you're big sellouts. the truth is, we were sellouts to begin with. >> perhaps there is no stopping the corporate machine. >> i mean, we were sleeping at friends' houses, had no money, and then one fox executive had seen a cartoon we had made in college and he said, make me another christmas video i can send out as a christmas card.
he gave us like 700 bucks. we went and made this five-minute short. >> i come seeking retribution. >> he's come to kill you because you're jewish, kyle. >> oh [ bleep ]. >> it went around the tv community like wildfire. >> i mean, it -- it was the funniest thing you'd ever seen in your life. >> go, santa! >> somebody showed me the short. >> go, jesus! >> i thought it was hysterical. i called and said get them in here right away. >> oh, my god! they killed kenny. you bastards! >> "south park" was able to be topical. >> "south park" really, really detests hypocrites. >> christians and republicans and nazis, oh, my! >> well, okay, mrs. cartman, i'll legalize 40th trimester abortions for you.
>> could you imagine back then that these people would ever get on network television or any kind of television? >> it's a miracle. "south park" is a miracle. >> the early '90s the hbo shows start to kind of come into their own. >> and then have i always had these breasts? >> a lot of people want freedom. they don't want to go back to the networks, which are saying you can come to us where you'll make more money but you'll also have content restricted. you could go to cable and have no restrictions. not make as much money but have freedom of expression, which almost everybody who works in these mediums wants. >> some of the content truly was, you can't get this anywhere else. >> you're a fantasy maker, the only limit on the kinds of fantasies is people's imagination.
>> hbo turned to people who said, i can't do that on television, but you can do it on hbo. >> white people don't trust black people. that's why they won't vote for >> white people don't trust black people. that's why they won't vote for no black president. like a black brother will [ bleep ] up the white house. like the grass won't be cut. dishes piled up. basketball going in the back. >> in the late '80s hbo was just sort of gaining ground for series. >> by the '90s hbo had started to begin its explosion. >> when we started doing "dream on" one of the things hbo said to us was, it's got to be something that couldn't be on network tv. ♪
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>> you've watched letterman, you've watched leno, but what about larry? larry sanders, that is. he's the tv alter ego of comedian garry shandling. >> garry shandling wanted to do a show that deconstructed the kind of show "the tonight show" was. >> just pretend like you're talking to me till we're off the air so it won't seem weird. >> okay. blah, blah, blah, blah. >> "the larry sanders show" was sort of cathartic. because in the world of "the larry sanders show," there was a network. >> you want me to [ bleep ] your budget? is that what you want me to do? >> so it became this weird funhouse mirror thing, where you could use stuff from your misery, your career, as fodder. >> don't take this as a threat but i killed a man like you in korea, hand to hand. my boy doesn't want to do any more commercials. >> larry sanders to me was, aside from being a brilliant television show -- >> can you say, hey now. >> hey now. >> it was my everyday life. >> i'm here for three good reasons. last show. big ratings.
movie coming out. bim, bam, boom. >> "the larry sanders show" was very unique in that it was very deadpan. and really groundbreaking in its day. >> i think it made people really go, that's the level of work you may be able to do on a cable network. >> "oz" comes on in '97. and it's set in this fictional penitentiary. wow. what a strange show that was. >> in "oz," sometimes the things you can't touch are more real than the things you can. for instance, fear, hate red, loneliness, are more real to me than a shank and a soul. >> it was jaw-droppingly violent. it was a men's prison. it probably should be. but you know, it kind of announces the idea that hbo is going to get serious about doing
scripted dramas. >> it's finished. it's over. >> but hbo really in my mind comes to its own in 1999 with "the sopranos." ♪ ♪ woke up this morning ♪ got yourself a gun >> "sopranos" just is one of those shows that was a benchmark change. it changed a lot of things for everybody. >> throw out the handbook. tony soprano, the lead actor in a drama, he killed a man. we watched him. he took his daughter on a college tour. >> pretty, huh? >> yeah. >> it was just a melding of a guy and a world -- >> what the [ bleep ] you doing? what the [ bleep ] you doing? >> and a behavior that promoted
all the feelings that you would have for a guy that you love in a guy that you hate. you know? >> "sopranos" came on tv and it really showed us the future, whether we realized that was going to be the future of television or not. >> this husband of yours, carmella, how much we love him. he's the best. >> oh, come on. he's like a father to me. >> just make sure nothing happens to him. >> that character in that show was a great inspiration to a great many shows that came after it including one that i worked on. >> you know what i want, tony? i want those kids to have a father. >> they got one, this one, me. tony soprano. and all that comes with it. >> oh, you prick. >> because of that quality, actors felt there was no longer a comedown to go on television.
audiences looked to television for what they had only found before in feature film. >> what have i ever done to you except deliver the south? >> you shouldn't have made me beg. >> network dramas became very innovative. they were making a new mark. >> once we started making the kinds of shows that we were making in the '90s, you couldn't shut the door on them. >> get me out. >> some of my favorite shows of all time aired in that decade. there was still that communal sense from the earlier decades of tv. but it was being applied to shows that were reaching higher and farther and they were great. >> damn it! you know, i think if parents would spend less time worrying about what their kids watched on tv and more on what was going on in their kids' lives, they would be in a better place.
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this is a confusion and an unelected judge trying to supersede and impose his values over the president. that's what the census is for, to count the people in the country. >> laura: they're counting all people. >> count the immigrants. >> laura: hold on, scott. they're counting all people. there's a question about whether you're a citizen or not. now, what is the problem with answering the question? i don't understand that. what is the possible constitutional argument here? >> well, because it's racially offensive, first of all. >> laura: what does it have to do with race? >> it's directed at brown people and black people. >> laura: you're making that up. >> of course it is. >> laura: it's directed at all people in the country. you ask a question. i get asked the question. you get asked the question.
we got another case. >> does that mean i'll right? >> laura: out of portland involving trans-gender bathrooms. we've heard the trans-gender case and issue a long time, this is interesting because it's a parent's group gotten together and said we understand that trans-gender kids have rights but we represent families whose students, sons and daughters don't want to share a bathroom with a trans-gender person who is born of the opposite sex. this judge said you don't have any privacy rights here. if you have a problem, leave the district. harmeet, would that take the scrutiny? i know it's the ninth district. it's a harsh ruling against that parent's group. maybe i'm misreading it. >> i agree with you. it's harsh and wrong. trans-gender students who may need a number of supports and medical support are -- they have
rights obviously. the vast majority of them are not trans-gender and they have rights, too, including privacy rights. people trans-gender in their youth, they may switchback and forth. the spector has been raised, which is a real one, of people abusing this trans-gender labelling and electing it in order to peep and get into the girl's bathrooms. it's not really -- >> goodness gracious. >> it's not appropriate to look at one side or the other. i can tell you in girls locker rooms, we've been there. everything is showing. it's not really something that you want as a guy to have hooking at your body. sorry to say. >> laura: i don't want anybody looking at my body. i don't like anybody. i'm one of the shy people. >> it's a slap in the face for the judge to say the -- the parents are taxpayers. they have a right to have their kids educated -- >> laura: scott, do the parents have rights here? or just the trans-gender kids? >> not compared to the
congratulations also. >> laura: and a bomb shell that was nothing. cnn's reporting surrounding trump's knowledge of the 2016 russian meeting rests on michael cohen. you remember what the media thought of him, right? >> it's a group of scumbags like michael cohen sitting around in cahoots with each other. >> michael cohen, the goon that he is. is he serious about becoming president? michael cohen does him no favors. >> this guy is a thug with a law degree and a billionaire boss. >> he shouldn't be a lawyer. that's not the way you communicate. you don't go to law school to act like a thug. >> laura: so a thug. then you don't take what a thug says to heart, right? the media would have questions about his credibility? no, no, no. what he says now has got to be right. >> if he is willing to talk to robert mueller, which sources
say that he is, is that a game changer? >> michael cohen talking to robert mueller. isn't he a gold mine? >> this is collusion. this is an attempt, a fraud on the american people. >> if this is true, this is collusion. they're colluding with a secret kremlin plot. this is it. this is the ball game right here. >> wiley coyote almost has the roadrunner. acme tnt. goodness. we have a lot to get to with two of my favorite people. could this be enough to get the president this time? here to react, sarah carter and the federalist molly hemingway, fox news contributors. molly? >> it's interesting. people on this story day after day, month after month, year after year finally think they found the thing that will bring donald trump down. the idea that michael cohen is the lynchpin to the entire case and everything will crumble is fascinating that people would cling to that. probably if he was so important to this, bob mueller wouldn't
today. i thought what is cnn talking about? they're so much news across the globe and all cnn could do is talk about cohen over and over and over again. they pounded this. cohen has to be right. now he has information that, you know, he has on president trump. but they called him donald. >> laura: i noticed that. >> they disrespect that he's the president. they say donald must have known about this meeting with natalia and don jr. and these russians. they were trying to get information from the russians. well, it's something that molly and i talk about frequently. we talked about it before we came to see you. if donald trump jr. went to that meeting and even if they were going to offer him something, why don't we just go back to hell hill -- hillary clinton paying a foreign spy to collect information to the russians to
spread this information? >> this is an important point. if you think there's something nefarious about collecting information -- the whole point is trump knew that we were going to bring him down, if you believe that, you should have a problem with hillary clinton and the dnc secretly buying and paying for an operation where you hire a foreign spy and he according to his own claims sourced that to the kremlin. he says he got his information from the kremlin operatives. so if you think this is a horrible thing you should be concerned about the dossier. now we learned the dossier wasn't just used by the clintons. >> laura: that's right. >> it was used by the federal government and used to spy on an american citizen. part of a large -- >> laura: remember when civil libertarians used to care about big brother, big brother spying on us. now suddenly anything goes. if an intel agent or an intel agency says something, it's saying it can never be questioned. >> to the point of laura, they
omitted information in the fisa that showed that even christopher steele himself one was bias because we know bruce ohr's testimony proved that and he worked for the department of justice and demoted twice and nellie ohr worked for fusion gps. not only that, christopher steele himself couldn't verify the information that he was collecting from the russians. okay. we're going to believe it, we're going to open a fisa warrant investigation on carter page, water going to spy on president trump and drag the entire administration for more than 1 1/2 years into this mess with robert mueller. >> laura: and this is cohen from 2017. he said in a tweet, i'm so proud of donald trump jr. for being open, honest and transparent to the american people. this nonsense needs to stop. that was at the issue with the meeting came out initially. >> cohen says he has no evidence to support his own claim. you people that say otherwise. this points to the actual issue
of cohen's credibility. >> laura: who cares if he knew. >> the point being the entire case of the russia collusion hinges on him going to prague to conspire with the russians. he said he didn't go. if he's a truth teller around denies this central claim that underpins the russia collusion theory, how come it didn't matter? now it matters because -- >> molly is right on that. >> laura: do either of you find it curious that no one in the sort of more mainstream press does any like serious reporting on this? serious reporting on mueller, on what is taking so long and why this attorney client privilege material is dropping out, lanny davis' past associations, the countries and the foreign entities that he's represented over the years? they're going after manafort for ukraine. but what is lanny davis' clients
list looks like? >> the most terrifying thing -- >> laura: yeah. >> you have a week like this where all the things we heard about the fisa court being misled are confirmed by documents. the media doesn't report it. they're gas-lighting and making reality seem the opposite of what it is. you have a case like that, the media should -- i get they don't like trump but they need to report on this issue of whether -- not even whether. we know it's established. the trump campaign was surveilled in multiple ways. wiretapped, human informants, national security letters. >> laura: if they were done with hillary, they would be -- >> all the resources, laura, that "the new york times" has, "the washington post" have, with the great history they've had as well which is why people became journalists, to do investigative reporting. they stepped back and let our
narrative role -- >> laura: the amazon post is dedicated to one thing. getting trump out of office. they want to recreate the old glory days. >> it's about impeachment. >> laura: they're not going to report on the other stuff. great for being here. trump defies the critics again. the gdp report, wow! just the latest example that the economy is roaring back to life under this president. so why is the media not cheering the results? the white house is here to respond next.
around quarter to quarter. >> it's good to see but will it last. >> president trump will take a lot of credit for the numbers. don't believe him. a lot of people that bought things because they're worried about his tariffs and a lot of false growth from tax cuts juicing the economy. >> laura: i heard people saying it was all obama's economy. all of them were really excited about his chance for more american success. here the react, kevin hasett. thanks for being here. >> thanks. >> laura: i know you're not surprised. this number comes out after -- we're going to play the great predictions from last year. and these media types do everything in their power to down play it or give the credit to president obama. it's stunning. >> yeah. after president trump, it's laura ingraham's policy.
how long have we known each other? >> laura: 20 plus years. >> the fact is we said if we cut corporate taxes the jobs would come home. if we had energy dominance, there would be exploration and drilling. if we had better trade deals by showing we're tough, we would reduce the trade deficit. so we have a capital spending boom, structures investments sky rockets because of the drilling and the trade deficit went down and contributed to higher gdp growth. everything about the trump agenda is working and that will drive the critics crazy. i'd like to add one last thing. there can be a sugar high in economics. you remember cash for clunkers? they bought a bunch of clunkers and people had to buy a new car. so gdp growth went up a lot in that quarter. after that they had a new car and it went back down. that was a sugar high. what we see is capital spending and capital spending increases supply. so all of those factories being
built this quarter will have output in the next quarter and that will sustain the growth. >> laura: some of the doubters are saying, well, a lot of this has been juiced by other countries buying our soy beans in anticipation of the tariffs that are now not going to happen as far as europe goes. so they're stockpiling the soy beans, a huge increase in u.s. exports of soy beans. they say in the months coming, these countries won't need to buy as many soy beans, so that will put downward pressure on our gdp and thus the 4.1% very high level of today is not sustainable going forward. the president says look for higher numbers today. >> you know, i don't know higher numbers, but i don't want to disagree with the president either. the fact is, that we understand farmers and the white house. we know the soy bean crop is about to be harvested in september and prices have gone
down. they've gone down recently because the chinese did stockpile lots of soy beans in anticipation of the trade dispute. but there's other things like the reshoring of activity because we're no longer an unattractive tax environment. the biggest news in today's gdp report which will frustrate the democrats, this old thing called inventories. if everybody is decided they're optimistic and they're going to buy stuff, the firms will ratchet up consumption. they're selling stuff off the shelves because production can't adjust so far. so inventory subtracted 1%. >> laura: we turned into doc's business. >> i apologize. we're going to get the 1% back because the shelves are empty. >> laura: yeah. we have some fun things here,
this is what paul krugman said. this is after the 2016 election. he said we're looking at a global recession with no end in sight. i suppose we can get lucky. but on economics as if everything else, a terrible things happened. l.a. times. if trump thinks he can get more than 3% economic growth, he's dreaming. nose are just the ones we found in five seconds in our search today. jeb bush is saying yeah, this is great because of the tax cuts. but you now have to do immigration reform and you have to have free trade policies. so he was kicking the tariffs on the way to the praise there, kevin. final comments. >> the president's strong stance on trade has delivered a lot of progress in these negotiations. remember, the objective is to open up european markets, open up other markets for agricultural products. you saw the great news from the
e.u. this week. that would have never happened if he didn't stand strong as you've been advising him to do. >> laura: never, never. thanks for being here. i appreciate it. >> great to being here. >> laura: and his response, the same man that worked for the obama administration, austin goulsby. tell us why we should be discouraged by a good gdp number? to listen to the commentary today, it's like you want to take a prozac. this is great news and so many of the democrats could not deal with the positive news for the country or for trump, which is very sad. >> look, i'm going to agree with you. i find it sad and you can see there were a bunch of democrats just trying to spin it in a partisan way. there's nothing bad about having a 4% gdp growth number. that's good. good for america and the president is entitled to say this was a good number.
you can see he was beaming with pride. the question now is how can we continue to sustain that. it's worth remembering just last quarter was a mediocre number. so we had around 2%. now we got 4%. let's hope we get more 4%s and not reason to the 2%s. i don't think there's anything that you should convince yourself that was bad about this number. it wasn't bad. >> laura: we aren't saying wages rise as we want, especially with the tight labor market. you'd think wages would begin the uptick that's a problem. >> and i agree. >> laura: we haven't seen real wages. we're seeing bonuses though, which is nice to see. but people want to make more per year and per hour. >> we're not seeing it as we should. but that's the toughest part of the recovery. it has been true for a long
time. it's not like this is just the fault of the trump administration. it's been a long period that we haven't had enough wage growth for ordinary workers in the middle of the wage distribution, if you want to think about it. that doesn't take away from the gdp today. it's very good. but just be a little careful. there's several aspects of the gdp number today that looks like they're probably temporary. we're still growing well, but there's some parts of it that 4% -- >> laura: remember the increase in trade hasn't kicked in yet. when this european deal gets done, i understand nafta is going to get done now my sources are telling me. if nafta gets done and looks much more likely now, which i can't believe i'm saying that, but -- >> i hope you're right. every day we don't have a trade war is a good day for america. >> laura: i am right on that.
let's play this. bob lightheiser was on capitol hill. critics on both sides about the tariffs and how we're trying to take on china, this is brian schatt, democrat from hawaii. watch. >> first of all, you say the chinese are clever because they have a 50-year view. we should be clever and have a two or three-year view. that doesn't make sense to me. >> no. i'm saying we're a democracy, so we take a shorter-term view because we're responsible to our voters periodically. >> so does that mean that democracies always lose to authoritarian governments? does it mean -- >> sir, it means you don't pick stupid fights. >> if your conclusion is that china taking over all of our technology and the future of our children is a stupid fight, you're right. we should capitulate. my view is that's how we got where we are. i don't think it's a stupid
fight. >> laura: that doesn't get enough play. that encapsulated so much of what the trump economic agenda is all about. don't cede. fight for every tight. and lightheiser is an underrated rock star in this administration. close it out. >> all i say is if your main thing is about confronting china, don't pick seven fights while carrying a six shooter. that's been our problem. our natural allies to stop chinese intellectual property violation would be the very country that we're threatening trade wars with. >> laura: they're working with us, austin. the e.u. is working with us. korea cut a new deal. >> they're not all working with us. >> laura: korea cut a new deal months ago. they did. europe is renegotiating with us. mexico is about to renegotiate nafta.
canada is realizing what is going on with the steel. >> and the europeans are joining with the chinese -- >> laura: that's nonsense. we're out of time. >> we have to find a way to confront china to help us. >> laura: we tried. we're out of time. we'll roll. >> great to see you. >> laura: great having you on. and it's is not snakes on a plane but socks on a plane. are you confused? i am. you don't know what you're going to get on "the ingraham angle." stay there. ♪ keep it comin' love. if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
scorching temperatures and strong winds and drought are fuelling the fire. forecasters don't expect a break in the weather soon. sky gazers around the world were treated to a rare sight. a blood moon. this lunar eclipse was the longest of the century. the exception of north america, much of the world caught a glimpse of the red moon. australia, europe and asia had the best view. i'm jackie ibanez. now back to "the ingraham angle" for your headlines, go to foxnews.com. have a great night. >> laura: it's friday. you know what that means. one grounded plane and the biggest documentary in the country? where to begin. for more, raymond aroyo. okay, raymond. more reboots announced this week. it's like the 90s have returned. what is the latest? >> the 90s are back with a vengeance.
"fraser" may be rebooted. remember "charm?" with the witches. and "buffy the vampire slayer." you remember that show? >> laura: no. never watched it. >> it was huge -- in the 90s, this is one of those seminole shows that -- it was a girl fighting back that could be beautiful and tough. a lot of blow-back. they want to recast buffy as a black actress, have her play the lead role, this is a tweet of what is happening on social media. this is a staff writer for vulture. angelica jade. she's an african american writer. she says i'm not interested in seeing a black slayer taking on buffy and gender and race reboots. we deserve our own mythology. that is a great important take on this. remember a few years ago, they trade to relaunch "murder she
wrote" with octavia spencer. that went nowhere. >> laura: a flop. >> angela lansberry said i can't see it. the fan as greed with her that reboot died. >> laura: is angela lansberry still work something. >> yeah. >> laura: she's unbelievable. >> my problem with the reboots and trying to recast them, tell new stories for this generation. you're depriving this generation of their characters, their stories by trying to squeeze them in these old sitcoms in this case. i've had it with the reboots. >> laura: it's just -- >> if you're going -- >> laura: like star wars. they're the worst. >> "everybody loves raymond" would make a great reboot. start writing. i love that show. speaking of reboot -- >> laura: i didn't watch any of those. >> this is a curious story where
we need a reboot from last night. a spirit airplane was grounded over what people on the plane were calling a stinky sock smell. the plane going from new york to ft. lauderdale was diverted to myrtle beach. i'm not making this up. >> laura: spirit is the worst -- it's the worst experience. i'm sorry. i've been on spirit air lines before. they charge you for air, for god's sake. don't breathe. it's $25. >> i'm bringing a camera next time. >> laura: sorry. no can do. >> the passengers started complaining. they got nauseous. they grounded the plane in myrtle beach. when people went aboard, they couldn't find the smell. i said why didn't you check the passengers? you have a stinky sock smell. have you traveled when these people -- >> laura: no, no. >> -- take their shoes -- >> laura: no, no. i took a photo of a flight from
chicago. >> not you. >> laura: i didn't -- not the face but a 20-something. had bare feet and putting her filthy bare foot with toe rings on the arm rest next -- okay. i got like a dry heave. >> this is why -- >> laura: here's a message. if you're traveling, it's not your bedroom. >> it's not your bathroom either. clipping the nails. >> laura: oh, no! >> clipping the toenails -- >> laura: changing babies on the pull-down tray table. >> you have to change them somewhere. every time i travel, i break out the lysol wipes. you call me felix unger -- >> laura: and now it's to the point that people ask raymond -- >> guilty as charged. >> laura: raymond is like don't move. he's like -- >> don't touch anything.
you have to clean it. >> laura: all right. before we go though, before we go, there's a movie that is about to become the highest grossi grossing bio graphic document in history. has to be -- what is it? >> laura, ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood a beautiful day for a neighbor ♪ ♪ would you be mine >> laura: i hated that. >> look what i'm doing for you today. i'm putting my cardigan on for you. >> laura: the whole little village -- >> let's make believe. i already feel better. i feel warmer -- >> laura: you're either a cardigan person or you're not. i'm not one. i'm messing -- >> the new mr. rogers movie, "would you be my neighbor" -- >> laura: no, no, no. no turtleneck. >> this movie -- >> laura: men with turtlenecks doesn't work. >> this movie is about to make $25 million at the box office.
the biggest documentary in the last five years to give you an idea, al gore's movie, "the inconvenient truth" made $3.7 million. and the pope francis, 1.7 million. >> laura: bomb. >> why are people going to the mr. rogers movie? >> laura: innocence. >> decency. someone uplifting people and using the media for good. people just like you, laura. >> laura: none of the satire on cheap cynicism. this is a beautiful town and -- >> mr. rogers was a presbyterian minister that used the medium for good. >> laura: he was amazing. >> he helped people through difficulties. i discovered watching the movie a life-long republican you'll be happy to know. >> laura: i got a sense of that. did he have slip-on shoes or tie shoes? >> he had the slip-ons and put the sneakers on. >> laura: i wasn't a mr. rogers.
>> children were captivated by him. >> laura: they were. >> we need more of that tenderness and nonpolitical warfare. >> laura: banish that from your wardrobe. >> you don't like the cardigan? >> laura: no. we exposed them and the democrats craven attempts to get the immigration high ground? stay right there.
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was formed and they made the recommendations, they made recommendations to protect america. but the republicans would never take them up and some of it was about our borders. >> laura: is she saying 9-11 was an incident? democrats are tough on immigration. well, to debate that, let's bring in michael cutler, special agent at ins, predecessor to ice and francisco hernandez. great to see both of you. francisco, how are democrats tougher on immigration than republicans? when she's trying to convince of that, leads me to believe she knows they're losing on this ice issue. she's making a bold proclamation that the democrats are for border enforcement. how? >> we want to get our feelings
hurt and what she says or call her bluff? prove them wrong. let them show their cards. we're sending them back because they hurt our feelings. what she forgot to say is to point out, all of the 911 terrorists were here legally. >> laura: no. one overstayed a visa. one shouldn't have been on the visa. so originally on an overstayed visa. but calling 9-11 an incident as an american citizen, i know nancy has been slow lately, but that's just abhorrent. it's beyond outrageous. michael, this argument about abolish ice, which undergirds what she's talking about her, it's exploded across the country. protests, whipping up people. they feel bad because of separated kids. i understand that. but they backfired. the protests have backfired and most people think we need ice
because they do human trafficking work, they do the great drug intradiction work. the democrats thought it would be nirvana. i don't see it. it's a disaster. >> it's interesting. she brings up 9-11. i arrested terrorists. most people don't realize that. i provided testimony to the commission. when she said well, one of the things is border security. she was right. the other part of it was immigration fraud. that's the bailiwick of ice. the same agency that she was demanding be disbanded. so how in the world can you be in two places at one time except washington, with the idea that we'll take immigration out of the equation when the 9-11 commission found that multiple failures of the immigration system, particularly interior enforcement, that was the key words in the 9-11 commission
report. how do you eliminate interior enforcement and say you're following the recommendations of the 9-11 commission? it's crazy. >> laura: and jeff sessions was up in boston yesterday. he announced arrests in this major identity fraud operation where 25 individuals are now standing accused of stealing social security numbers and about $250,000 in benefits. if you're not outraged by that, listen to this. >> out of 28 charged,21 are in custody and 22 of the total are in this country illegally. 19 have arrest records for everything from breaking and entering, assault and battery on a police officer. >> laura: francisco, you have this deal with identity fraud, social security fraud. collecting benefits. >> and you and i --
>> laura: and sessions says look, this is just the tip of the iceberg. $250,000 just in boston. >> yes. why don't we give these folks a reason to come out of the shadows and identify themselves so we can separate the ones t t that -- >> they don't -- >> we have no incentive to find out who they are. they're sitting out there using your social security number and my social security number. ice can only do what congress tells it to do. ice is dependent on the ina law. congress is blaming ice. both parties are blaming ice and dhs for the failure to act for the last -- >> laura: we're not failing to act. be very clear about that. sessions is not failing to act. i interviewed andrew lulling today on the radio. >> congress. >> laura: there is great enforcement going on. michael, you can speak to this. >> sure. >> francisco --
>> laura: they're mapping out medicaid applications with the social security numbers and find out there's rampant fraud. it's not just people that committed crimes. food stamp, medicaid fraud across this country by people that came here illegally. it happens every day. michael, go ahead. >> sure. francisco, wait a second. wait a moment. first of all, none of them came in legally. they haul committed visa fraud. they all lied to the inspectors at the airport. >> they came hear legally -- >> you had your turn. this is my turn. the laws are adequate to go after terrorists and criminals that defraud the immigration system. >> you're right. >> the bad guys won't come out of the shadows if they know they're wanted. >> you're right. >> all you're doing is legalizing illegal aliens and giving them -- >> laura: very few people are covering this fraud that intersects illegal immigration. we'll be on it and dig deeper
what's happening just in new england and fentanyl is involved, too. we'll stay involved. thank you. up next, it isn't just twitter that is trying to snuff out conservative voices. wait till you hear what facebook did regarding a candidate running for congress in florida. that and peter teal's message for silicon valley next.
>> laura: boy has it been a rough week for silicon valley. twitner hot water for shadow banning users. facebook's stock has cratered after they missed their earning estimates for the first time in three years. to make matters worse, the social media giant is accused of banning this ad from a florida republican because of the second amendment message. watch. >> i'm mack caldwell. i like guns. i love the second amendment. i support our president. that's why i'm endorsed by the nra. i'm matt caldwell. that's all there is to it. >> laura: i like that ad. here to respond, the candidate himself, state representative matt caldwell. he's running as a candidate for the commissioner of agriculture.
representative caldwell, how did you find out this was, you know, banned on facebook? >> yeah, absolutely, laura. we have been obviously running statewide over a year now and running multiple ads every day just run of the mill stuff. like this, like that. we post this mom and apple pie pro president trump, pro nra endorsement ad and gets flagged immediately. we do what it tells you to. appeal it. let us know why you don't think it should be flagged. we wait and wait. no response. here we are five weeks out from the primary, two million voters and we're losing time while they review it. it gets lost in the black hole. we called them out in the media. put out a release and said we've been blocked from talking about this straightforward message that i've been sharing 1 1/2 years. until we called them out for it, they didn't take any action. once we did that, the bad
publicity, they called it out, apologized and allowed it. but it's precedent. you go through facebook's policies. anything that deals with guns or ammunition, it gets flagged. i'm running for office. i have a platform. they paid attention to me. what about private citizens? the person using -- >> laura: yeah, they don't have the same opportunity that you have. certainly as you said, the platform. makes you wonder how often this happens in the course of a day. there's a lot of stuff on these social media platforms that most people find objectable but doesn't get flagged. whether it's nudity, semi nudity or violence from film clips. so how do you make that judgment? this is where i prefer the free market. someone being mutilated or an
incitement to violence. but thus far, there's no other problem with facebook today, right? >> no. they're running our ads now and have told us we shouldn't have anymore problems. but shows you where their mindset is at. why are guns automatically flagged? but you have things likes abortion. you can run an abortion ad -- >> laura: representative caldwell, we're out of time. we'll keep an eye on it. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ don't stop it now, ♪ don't stop it no. ♪ don't stop it now, ♪ don't stop it. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ don't stop it now, if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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hospital tonight. two children and two adults. this area of the ozarks being a popular tourist destination. the governor made a point today of saying that many of the victims of this tragedy were traveling here from out of state. you can see the waters of this lake calm behind me now but severe thunderstorms, again, in the forecast here in southeast missouri tonight, erin. >> horrible thing. kaylee, thank you. thanks to all of you for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening tonight. an exclusive interview with the attorney for alleged russian spy maria butina. the attorney joins us. that's ahead. so is the latest on the mystery surrounding what happened behind closed doors when president trump met vladimir putin. it's a mystery because the white house won't tell us or tell you. in fact, we're getting more from russia than we are from washington. we begin, though, with the president's former personal attorney and longtime fixer, michael cohen. today, we learned he had made tapes of conversations with his client and others and federal authorities have those tapes. they were seized when the fbi
raided cohen including one from september of 2016 when cohen, then-candidate donald trump, were talking about paying off former playboy model karen mcdougal who as you know alleged an affair with mr. trump about ten years prior. while melania trump was pregnant and even after the birth of their son. money above and beyond an arrange nlt with the "national enquirer's" parent company, ami, to buy miss mcdougal's story and kill. this conversation took place two months before the election, september 2016. several weeks later, just a few days before the election, the campaign denied any knowledge of the alleged affair, or the "national enquirer" deal but that's getting ahead of the story. let's start at the beginning as told to me exclusively by karen mcdougal earlier this year. so tell me about your first date. >> our first date, i was told we were going to go to the beverly hills hotel for dinner. so he had told me that keith, his bodyguard, was going to pick me up at a certain time, and he did. and then we were driving over to
the beverly hills hotel, and keith drove around to the back and he said, we have to get out here because we don't want to walk through the hotel. and at that minute, i'm li, lik thinking to myself, are we going to a room? thought we were having dinner at the beverly hills hotel. >> in the actual restaurant. >> right. we did have dinner at the beverly hills hotel but in his bungalow instead. we had dinner for a few hours. we talked for a few hours. we had a great time. we were getting to know each other. we were talking about this birthd birthday. then as the night ended, we -- we were intimate. >> when you got to the beverly hills hotel, and keith said we're not going to go through the lobby, we're going to go -- was it to a -- to a room at the beverly hills hotel or a suite or -- >> it was a bungalow if h back. >> a bungalow. >> it's the one he said he always stayed at, in fact, every time i met them there, it was the same exact bungalow. and he called it the nicest bungalow they had. so i guess that's why he chose that one. but that's, yeah, that's where we went every time. >> well, fast forward to
november 4th of 2016, the "the wall street journal" breaking the story of her allegations and the arrangement with the "national enquirer." spokes person hope hicks telling the "journal" we have no knowledge of any of this. i asked karen mcdougal about it during our interview back in march. hope hicks has said catego categorically you did not have a relationship, there's no truth to this. when you heard that denial, what did you think? >> i think somebody's lying and i can tell you it's not me. it's a little hurtful, but at the same is time, i have to understand, like, if he were to tell hope hicks that he didn't do it, i guess i understand because he's trying to protect his family, his image, things like that. but it was definitely a little, like, wow, you're going to lie about that? okay. >> now, of course, it's possible that hope hicks, herself, was being lied to, but barring that, we now know that four days before the election, the campaign's chief spokesperson was lying to voters. the cohen/trump tape shows
candidate trump was made aware of the "national enquirer" deal at least that september, two months before hope hicks said they knew nothing about it. keeping them honest, perhaps we should have known given team trump's chronic trouble with telling the truth. back in january of this year, of course, spokesman rob shaw said none of the allegations were true. here's the white house press secretary in march. >> look, the president has addressed these directly and made very well clear that none of these allegations are true. this case has already been won in arbitration. anything beyond that, i would refer you to the president's outside counsel. >> a month later, here's what the president said. >> mr. president, did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no, no. what else? >> why did michael cohen -- >> well, you have to ask michael cohen. michael's my -- an attorney and
you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> i don't know. no. >> well, a few weeks later his other attorney rudy giuliani said the president did, in fact, pay michael cohen. >> when i heard cohen's retainer of $35,000, when he was doing no work for the president. i said, that's how he's retained? how he's repaying it. with a little profit and a little margin for paying taxes for michael. >> that's giuliani essentially coming clean on the lie his client and people around him have been telling for months. as for karen mcdougal based on what we seen so par, tfar, the has just begun. joining me now, maggie haberman who shares a byline on the breaking story today. there have been two explanations from the president's attorney, from giuliani today, since your story posted. what's his latest explanation for these conversations? and let's talk fast because the story might change again. >> so, we were given an initial
explanation in which he indicated this was a separate payment, that this was a payment to mcdougal that was separate and apart from this arrangement mcdougal had with ami. he called back later to clarify that this was actually supposed -- on the tape, what they're discussing, is obtaining the rights to her story from ami. they are -- giuliani was strenuously denying that this should be construed as a reimbursementme reimbursement, although some i think would interpret it that way. he's adamant that it is not. i think that that has legal implications when it comes to the campaign finance piece of this. and in his telling of it, it was trump who said, let's do this properly and with a check. and it was michael cohen who either had suggested cash or didn't suggest a check in the first place. someone close to cohen has adamantly denied that version of events that suggested that the presentation in which the
then-candidate was saying, let's do this all aboveboard, is not how this went down. we're obviously not going to know without hearing this. the conversation is short. it's around two minutes long. it cuts off at some point before the conversation is done. there are portions of it that are apparently inaudible in the transcript. and it will, you know, i think it will have to be heard, you know, by any of us to really understand what's being said. but what it clearly does, as you say, is undercut what the campaign told "the wall street journal" in october of 2016 which is that they knew nothing about this. that's obviously not true. whether hope hicks who made that statement was aware of that, i don't know. it's very possible that dronald trump didn't tell her the truth. it raises questions about the president's credibility at a time when his folks are trying to undermine michael cohen. >> what's amazing about giuliani's -- both of giuliani's explanations. the first one is this would have been -- they were discussing an additional payment to karen mcdougal. ami was claiming we weren't
paying for her silence, we were paying her for the rights to her story, which we then didn't really believe, so we didn't publish it but we also wanted her to a columnist. if they were discussing just giving another payment to karen mcdougal, that is certainly pretty stunning. i understand why he would call back then and say actually, no, that's not what that was, even though that's what i just said it was. it was actually they were buying the rights to the story. >> that doesn't make much more sense. >> it doesn't make any sense. >> donald trump is not a publisher. >> right, "trump" magazine i think lasted for one or two editions and doesn't exist anymore. >> this would not have been a story you would have seen in it. >> that is also true. >> the distinction in the explanations i think has a legal one, as opposed to a personal one. the personal one, either way, is problematic for the president. there is no landscape in which this is a good thing for him. >> right. >> in terms of -- in terms of what he has said about this before. >> frankly, what makes the most
i can't -- i don't know what specifically is said on the tape because we haven't heard it. what we were told by people close to both sides is this is the only -- and this was another point of clarification, initially we were told this is the only audio of them. then we were told this is the only one of substance meaning this is the only one that isn't, you know, call me, call me back, i'll call you. this is the only one that features a conversation of anything that is material to that search warrant on michael cohen in the first place in april. >> and -- and the -- your understanding is that the president had no idea that michael cohen had recorded him? >> no. the president did not know that he was recorded. it's still confusing to me how this recording came to be. why it's so short. and so forth. you know, we know that michael cohen had a long history of taping people, but, you know, he offer to often told people he taped himself as well as reminders of notes or to, you know, to, you know, prompt him about something
side. so i think what he's doing here, he's trying to spin it as exculpato exculpatory. i can understand in a legal sense why he's saying it's exculpatory. he's saying that, look, all of this shows is that in real-time, the president didn't know that the payoff was happening and they were discussing something after the fact. it doesn't take away from the fact, i don't -- i'm not as familiar with the new york city bar rules that john just referred to, but there is something entirely reprehensible to a client about their lawyer recording them unbeknownst to them. i mean, the wohole idea of attorney/client privilege, you're supposed to have a client be able to unburden themselves, tell you everything that they want to tell you and get your best advice. if i'm doing that with a lawyer who then when he's caught in the crosshairs is turning that over, leaking it, or releasing it and commenting on it, that does some great damage to the attorney/client privilege.
and as somebody -- i don't care how you take what your view is on trump, there's something that's just unseemly about the fact that these recordings, attorney/client conversations. >> jennifer, i mean, you know, the more someone always says, well, i'd take a bullet for you, i'd be loyal to the end to you, the less i believe them. i mean, people who generally are like that don't actually have to say that over and over and over again. and certainly, if you really are that loyal, you don't record secretly the person you're talking to. >> yeah, it is very strange. i think the president has a right to be angry. i mean, unfortunately, for the president, it's not a legal defense. he can't keep the recording out just because, you know, michael cohen shouldn't have done it. but that's right. and cohen is now in a position of having to decide what's he going to do? is that loyalty that would have him take a bullet enough to send him to prison for years and have him do that? that's what he's deciding now, and i think we'll know fairly soon here, as soon as charges are filed, which way he's decided to go on that. >> john, the circumstance
certainly different between what you went through in watergate, do you see parallels in your situation and what michael cohen is thinking? >> there are. he has to make a decision if he's going to come forward and tell the truth. i happened to make that decision when the cover yun w-up was goi internally in the white house and broke rank. he's at that point right now. my advice to him would be to break rank and tell truth. >> john dean, mark geragos. coming up, why would russia's special counsel robert mueller want to from a woman who once ran a high priced new york call girl ring? known as madam manhattan. we'll ask roger stone. late e the interview you'll only see here, the attorney for the alleged russian spy joins us to talk about his client. to boo. with expedia's add-on advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia.
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learning about this? >> anderson, as you said, we have learned today that special counsel robert mueller has made contact with the lawyer representing kristin davis. as you said, she's a woman that some members of the public might better know her as the manhattan madam. she was ran a high-end prostitution ring in new york city. if you recall, she actually went to jail as a part of the prostitution scandal that took down former new york governor eliot spitzer. now, if there's going to be a subpoena that mueller and his team hand down to kristi in, davis, this woman, that has not yet happened. we got in touch with the lawyer who would be representi ining hf that happened. now, we do not know at this point why the special counsel, robert mueller, is interested in talking to thisle wo woman. certainly a really intriguing and unexpected twist in this robert mueller investigation. >> she also has a connection to roger stone, who was obviously
at a time an adviser on the president's election campaign. >> that's right. at this point in time if we were to make an educated guess, that might be one reason why robert mueller and his team are interested in talking to kristin davis. the two have known each other for a long time. roger stone is actually the godfather to her child. davis actually did some work were roger stone including, i'm told, doing some clerical work including some work related to his websites. now, mueller, of course, as we all know, has been very interested in roger stone, and has also taken an interest in some of the aides that have worked for roger stone in the past. so, again, this might be the connection and the reason for his interest. now, i do want to read a statement that we got earlier today from kristin davis' lawyer. it said, "kristin davis and roger stone are very good friends and she has worked on and off for him for the last ten years. roger is the godfather to her son. she is currently in the cosmetology business and she knows nothing whatsoever about russian collusion with the 2016 election." now, obviously, you can see there that she's trying to sort
of get ahead of the story and make it very, very clear from the get-go that she knows nothing that robert mueller might be interested in. >> m.j. lee, thanks very much. joining us nonow is roger stone. thank you for being back on the program. so with mueller wanting to talk to kristin davisi, it would be the third ex-associate that's been caught up in this investigation. do you think you're a target of this investigation and that's why they want do talk to miss davis? >> i have no idea, thank you for having me back, anderson. first of all, last week's indictments made pretty clear i had no advanced notice of the alleged hacking of the dnc, received no materials from guccifer 2, the russians or no one else, passed no material on to donald trump or wikileaks or julian assange or anyone else. now, kristin davis is a good friend of mine. she's a brilliant woman who has paid her debt to society. i always thought it was unfair
that she went to prison after the fall of eliot spitzer and he went to cnn to host a tv show. she has remade her life. she was not working for me during 2015. she worked for me during a portion of 2016. she went back to school to learn i.t. skills. she has helped me build some websites, but she has no knowledge whatsoever of any russian collusion, collaboration with wikileaks, or anything else improper having to do with the 2016 recollectioelection. >> can you see any situation where they want talk to her that doesn't have something to do with you? and on top of that, i guess has mueller's office been in contact with you or your attorney? >> i cannot imagine anything other than that question. she has been an associate of mine for over ten years. she's someone i have great affection for. i am, as m. jj. lee reported, t godfather to her son. she's a single parent.
she's now in the cosmetology business. >> so would she have been handling e-mail -- sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt. would she have been handling e-mail correspondence, things like that, that would be of interest to mueller? >> at this juncture, mr. mueller has had full access to my e-m l e-mails, therefore, he's well aware that there's no evidence whatsoever, not in the o possession of kristin davis or andrew miller, another associate of mine who's resisting a subpoena from mr. mueller, or anyone else of collusion with the russians, collaboration with wikileaks or any other inappropriate act. in my view, in all honesty, this is a phishing expedition. perhaps it is the payback for the fact that i broke the story yesterday on infowars that tony podesta has been -- that the special counsel has asked for immunity for him in the manafort investigation. or the manafort prosecution.
i know that has not yet been reported on cnn, but i reported it yesterday at infowars. i have multiple sources. fox has also reported it. i believe it to be true. perhaps this is payback for that. >> sam nugburg, a former trump aide, onetime close associate of yours was asked by the hollywood reporter what's next for you? he said roger is going to be indicted, he's a critical piece for mueller. obviously nunberg doesn't have inside knowledge into mueller's thinking or his operations though he did talk to mueller. do you think he's right? do you think you'll be indicted? >> mr. nunberg has no evidence wikileaks collaboration. sam is a very smart guy. i think he has substance abuse problems and, frankly, i think responsible members of the media should be very, very careful when they take what he says at face value. >> lastly, you told "the new york times" in regards to michael cohen, quote, donald goes out of his way to treat him
like garbage. now that we know cohen was recording at least some conversations with his client and also vowed to be loyal to his family and country, do you think michael cohen is out for revenge on the president? >> in all honesty, i have not had a chance to follow the developments of the day. i know that michael cohen wanted very badly to be in the president's presidential campaign. he was not. hi wanted very badly to be in the president's white house. he was not. i honestly do not know what he knows and whether any of it is detrimental to the president. i'm going to go by what mayor giuliani is and believe this is benign, but i have no special knowledge to the contrary. >> roger stone, appreciate you being on. thank you. >> thank you very much. it's now day four since the helsinki summit ended. senior u.s. officials including the nation's top intelligence officer are saying they don't have any idea or concrete idea of what was actually discussed between president trump and vladimir putin. russ russia says agreements were reached.
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doors. four days we asked for a readout as they say in white house press speak and got nothing, and no, the director of national intelligence didn't know anything about that, either. >> i don't know what happened in that meeting. i think as time goes by, president has already mentioned some things that happened in that meeting, i think we will learn more, but that is the president's prerogative. if he had asked me how that ought to be conducted, i would have suggested a different way, but that's not my role. that's not my job. so, it is what it is. >> again, that's america's chief intelligence officer saying he doesn't know what was discussed between the two men. interestingly, perhaps not surprisingly, russian officials continue to say they are delighted by what took place and say there are agreements reached between the two sides. the question, of course, is what agreements? since we're not getting answers from the white house, yes, we've asked, we're going to have to go to moscow for answers because that's where we are now. matthew chance is there. so, matthew, we still don't have
any readout from the white house, what are you hearing from russian officials? >> well, to be fair, anderson, we haven't had a readout, either, from the kremlin in terms of the sort of usual readout we'd expect after a big, important summit like this. just general characterization of the summit as being positive. vladimir putin, the russian president, said that there had been useful agreements that had been made there. but having said that, there have been a number of sort of, you know, kind of revelations that have trickled through for various other russian officials, the russian defense ministry, for instance, has spoken about the two presidents in helsinki discussing security arrangements internationally. arms reduction treaties. deals over syria. things like that. the russian ambassador to the united states, he was briefly in moscow to attend a meeting here in the russian capital, said
that there have been concrete agreements on eastern ukraine. and local media reports have spoken about how vladimir putin, again, the russian president, has spoken to ambassadors about the possibility of holding a referendum in eastern ukraine to decide the future of that sort of war-torn region. and so, you know, that's the kind of, you know, revelation that we've had come to us via, bleakle from russian officials but no firm read yout of the kind we'd expect. >> it's fascinating that vladimir putin made this offer about mueller's team going to mosc moscow, and then russian intelligence agents coming here and being able to sb interview u.s. fiofficials, interrogate u. officials that the president, apparently, i assume in one-on-one meetings and publicly talking about sounded like a great idea, sounded like really
interesting or something to really seriously be considered, when most russians out of hand said that would never -- that should never happen. and now the white house has walked that back saying, well, the president doesn't think it's a good idea. >> it was -- i was in that press conference, and it was absolutely fascinating and horrifying, frankly, as we discussed earlier, to see the u.s. president in such a sort of, i suppose, submissive kind of role in that relationship. the expectation was, even amongst trump's critics, is that -- was that he was going to, you know, make a stand, at least, you know, kind of, you know, talk about all the areas of conflict between the united states and russia. but he didn't do that and he even submitted when it came to that suggestion that the united states basically give up several of its key figures for interrogation by russian
authorities. and i think the sense here in moscow is that, you know, may have gone well on the surface, but did it go too far? is there a possibility of a backlash in the united states? the kind of backlash that we're seeing already that could place a further strain on relations between moscow and washington? >> interesting. >> so, you know, there are mixed feelings here in moscow, i think it's fair to say. >> matthew collapse, appreciate it. thank you very much. a lot to discuss with former cia officer steve hall. david axelrod, obviously key aide to president obama. david, was there ever a time you remembered president obama meeting one-on-one for more than two hours with somebody who is in an adversarial relationship with the united states and the public not having any information about what was said? >> all the meetings that he had that i know of were read out to the public. he had lengthy meetings with -- with people in foreign
governments. he had a lengthy meeting with putin in 2009 that was -- when putin was prime minister. not when he was president. it was the regular practice of our administration and every administration to read these meetings out, but more importantly, anderson, it was certainly the practice of this administration to have people monitor these meetings, and to make sure that key national security advisers and cabinet members were advised after the meetings of what happened, and were instructive or involved in prepping the president before the meeting. so everything about this was unusual and troubling. >> steve, in the absence of the white house providing an account of what happened or the state department, it's really the russians are the only ones kind of doing the talking. has the u.s. lost the ability to control the narrative here? and how does that impact the relationship? >> it does, indeed, seem that
the russians now control the narrative, which is obviously never a good thing. we're getting dribs and drabs of information. i was just reading something that there was the possibility that there was a discussion where the russians were pushing the president on not allowing ukraine in georgia, any plan for nato ascension. you know, that's obviously a very serious policy issue. not to mention all the issues with regard to syria and some very valid issues that need -- and complicated issues, such as, you know, ies and so forth. all of that stuff needs to be out there. there's no reason really for it not to be out there. experts need to take a look at it. congress needs to take a look at it and it let the russians be the ones who do this is a recipe for disaster because, of course, they will spin it. they have no -- there's no open and free press in are russia, so there's no advantage to the united states for that. it's another situation where i think the united states is lost out of this particular summit.
>> david, yesterday it was announced the white house extended the invite to putin. in terms of the politics of it especially in the fall, i don't know if it's going to be before the midterm elections or after the midterm elections, if putin accepts the invitation before the midterm elections, and comes, does that create a huge problem for congressional republicans? i mean, won't they have to answer questions of whether they support the president's decision to host the man who -- >> yeah, i'm sure. >> -- not only attacked america but continues to attack the country's democracy according to the intelligence services? >> i'm sure the news of thisgred enthusiasm in the republican cloakrooms on capitol hill, anderson. look, this has been a terrible week. the republican party coalesced, at least the rank and file according to polls have largely coalesced behind the president. independent voters have been deeply troubled by this. obviously, democratic voters, and in many of these swing districts, this is an unhelpful issue. you see will hurt, for example, from texas, who's a former cia officer, has been very outspoken
on this. he's in a very tough race in a swing district. there's a reason beyond his professional sense of outrage or whatever he feels about this that he's speaking out. it's because it is a political liability for him. so, you know, it's trump's habit to double down when he has a disaster, to be defiant about it. this invitation seems to be -- seems to be part of that pattern, but from a political standpoint, i have to believe that mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, and others are urging him to postpone any kind of meeting until after the election. >> steve, do you -- i think -- i don't think it was you, i think it was ralph larson on the program a couple nights ago who said that he wouldn't be surprised if the russians had a recording or transcript of what went on in that meeting one-on-one. do you think that's possible? and if so, how would -- how would that have happened? >> yeah, no, it's absolutely possible, and something we would have agreed on. the russians certainly have
capability to do that, in a very private meeting like that, it's child's play for the russians to get audio and video on this. it can be used for a number of different things. >> i guess for the u.s., too, then. >> it's possible for the u.s., but then, of course, you have to ask the question, the guy who makes the decision as to whether or not there's clandestine taping going on is the most senior guy in the room. on our side, donald trump, on their side, vladimir putin. in a meeting like this, it would seem to me it would be much to the benefit of vladimir putin to clandestinely record this stuff so he could later trot things out and shape the conversation, say, actually the president said this and here's the clip. so, you know, yeah, makes all sorts of sense that they would do that. they don't have to. they could keep it to themselves. but, yeah, it's certainly possible and could be very useful for them in the future politically. >> i guess given that one of the reasons the president allegedly didn't want to have other people in the room is because he didn't want leaks. i guess since he doesn't trust the intelligence community, he wouldn't want the intelligence community bugging that room and having that tape for that very
reason. >> now the russians -- now the russians can leak it for, you know, for him, for themselves. >> steve hall, david axelrod, thanks. a quick programming note, catch david axelrod and "the axe files" saturday night 7:00 p.m. on cnn. up next on "36 0" a woman sits in a washington jail tonight accused of being a kremlin spy and attempting influence american politicians. she's entered a plea of not guilty. coming up, i'll talk exclusively to her attorney about the charges against her. dear great-great grandfather, you made moonshine in a backwoods still. smuggled booze and dodged the law. even when they brought you in, they could never hold you down.
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pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiracy and acting as a covert russian agent. the russians set up a hashtag in their defense. her onetime poifboyfriend, paul erickson, adds to the intrigue. it's not clear where he falls into the alleged scheme. prosecutors suggest he may have been manipulated by butina who's half his age. joining me exclusively, maria but butina's lawyer, robert drisc driscoll. i want to read one between ther and the russian official she was communicating with immediately after donald trump won the election. she writes, "i'm going to sleep, it's 3:00 a.m. here. i'm ready for further orders." the rulgs russian official says "think about it. isis, understandably, what else we need to look at the american agenda." you say your client isn't a russian spy. why is she asking for further orders? >> i think that like most of the government's case is taken
completely out of context. the twitter direct messages, by the way, most russian spies don't speak by twitter messages which are unencrypted. there are thousands of them between them. twitter direct message about picking up toothpaste in america, direct messages of pictures of kids and dogs and everything else. they both had an affinity for better american/russian relations. that tcertainly he wasn'wasn't purpose of the trip to the u.s. >> here's the other thing the government says they have, they flagged several direct messages between her and the russian official, your client talks about going, quote, underground, going incognito and having to be quiet and careful. the government alleges the messages show her acting in a covert manner. to that, you say? >> again, maria never said she was anyone other than who she was. she always said she was a russian. she said she worked with al
alexander to arrshin. friends with him, assisting limb him in his endeavors. any discussion of them underground or covert, versus conferences, or have more private dinners. >> it's interesting for someone w who's alleged to be a spy, from what i read from accounts of people at the university with her, she had a picture of vladimir putin on her phone and often spoke in defense of vladimir putin in class, which if she was trying to be incognito and be here as a spy, i'm not sure that -- it seems she'd have a high profile in defense of vladimir putin. i think if i was a spy for vladimir putin, i would actually go the opposite way and kind of downplay my like of vladimir putin. >> i actually asked her about that today. i read about it, i think cnn, the story about the phone cover. it's a picture of vladimir putin shirtless on a horse. so, you can imagine, you know,
she had as a gag. she's the russian student and everyone knew she was a russian student. so she had -- >> i'm saying it actually argues in your favor in this case which is, like, if she's trying to have a cover position -- >> exactly. >> -- it seems odd she would be publicly out there promoting vladimir putin positions in a classroom. >> she was head of a -- she was well known in russia before she even came here. she's been getting publicity since she's been in the u.s. for well over a year. if she were a spy, her relationship with torshin was disclosed in articles online over a year ago. >> so -- >> according to the government's theory, her cover was born over a year ago and she didn't leave. >> let me ask you, paul erickson, the man she had a relationship with, is he the u.s. person number one named in the indictment? it seems like he is. >> i'm not going to confirm nor deny that here. >> okay. >> i think you're on the right track. >> can you sigh exactly what her relationship with erickson was, was she using him to gain access to the nra, to republican elite?
>> no, i mean, i think that they have a personal romantic relationship. and they have for about five years and they attended lots of events together over time. >> was she using sex as a means to manipulate erickson? there was some indication -- there was one report she complained about being -- >> no. and i think it's very unfortunate, the government kind of dropped those allegations without any evidence the other day in open court. i vehemently asked the government for any support for those allegations about trading sex for things because i frankly find it kind of offensive just because she's an attractive woman that that's the direction people go in. i haven't seen any evidence of that and >> well, i think someone from the school said the men she hung out with seemed to be above 60 which sort of struck them as odd. but there were handwritten notes found in her apartment. in particular, one said how to respond to fsb offer of employment. how do you explain that? >> i believe those notes were found in another apartment of
person one. >> right, in person one's handwriting. >> in person one's handwriting. i don't think it's up for her to explain that. but i will say this. that as -- >> the fsb is offering full employment either to subject number one, who she's in a relationship with, or to her, that's certainly again raising questions. >> i think that anyone who is russian has to meet with the fsb when they go back and forth and frequently is asked at the airport what they're doing in america, if they had any information for the fsb. what would happen if the fsb approached her gun rights group or not group. i think those kind of things were discussed by her. >> but talking about employment, if the fsb is talking about full employment, that's of concern, no? >> again, and if there were any evidence she was employed by the fsb, you know, but there's just -- there's just none. >> have you ever represented erickson? >> no. >> and so bottom line, in terms of what your clients want, is it
a plea deal, a return to russia? something else? >> my client's innocent of the charges. so what she wants to be is we're going to establish that the government cannot prove the case here. the government has brought a case into the foreign registration act, which by the way, no one was ever prosecuted under. essentially it's a registration statute saying if you're going to do certain activities in the country, you have to register with the attorney general of the united states. so they're acknowledging that everything they did is legal under u.s. law. >> i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. let's check in with chris and see what's coming up on "cuomo prime time." it's an interesting distinction legally between being innocent and the government not being able to prove a case. usually lawyers avoid the word "innocent" because it means you know for a fact your client did absolutely nothing wrong. usually there's an ethical hurdle that comes with that. tonight bewe're going to be takg
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of homeland. >> when a story breaks do you talk about that, how to make that a part of show? >> it's the first thing we discuss every morning in the story line, especially now when the news cycle is so crazy. >> breaking news, defending putin. >> breaking news tonight, a stunning shake-up at the white house. >> is this something germane to the story that we're telling? >> a porn star and a major staff departure, just another day in the trump white house. >> we were all utterly, utterly blown away. we are all trying to adapt to trump's american. >> veteran show runner a line shaken. >> is it fair to say hollywood is a hub of the so-called resistance? >> it's no secret that hollywood leans progressive and there's a certain dangerous presumption that everybody that walks into the room is going to share your politics, and not everybody does. >> people feel insulted. >> journalist selena zito. >> people in the middle of the country believe that hollywood only portrays things in a certain way, as though they are the butt of the joke. that their views aren't respected.
>> i'm joined now by brian stelter, host of reliable sources. it is fascinating to see this. i mean it's not only the trump presidency has changed the way we cover news. the news cycle itself just is amped up in a way, the speed of it now, it's not like anything i've ever seen. >> yeah. that affects hollywood as well as us in the cable news world. it affects these show runners producing sitcoms and dramas who normally didn't care much about what was going on in washington, but now there's this pressure, partly from the audience, to be reacting to what's going on in the real world. >> it's hard to compete there. a lot of this stuff seems like it comes out of hollywood, and yet, you know, they risk being left in the dust if they do a storyline and then, you know, the next week a whole new turn has taken place. >> that's been a through line in these conversations. which spent months talking to tv's top producers, as well as critics who watch all these shows. they have said there have been a number of times they have to rewrite scripts.
for example, on cbs's the good fight, there was a reference to stormy daniels suggesting she was just a flash in the pan. people moved on. well, as had been made clear, people have not moved on from those stories. avenatti always in the news. they had to rewrite that plt line, change that part of the script. that's happening all the sometime now. on the comedy side, we're seeing so many jokes at the president's expense. perhaps too many. it is clear in left-leaning hollywood, they do feel they're part of the resistance. >> i'm wondering if there's a fatigue factor in hollywood either among viewers, people want a break from that? >> there's always a desire for escapism. because we live in this age of peak tv, there's something for everyone. there's more shows than ever talking about the president, taking him on. there are also plenty of shows in the opposite direction. look, i've been wanting to binge watch the americans on fx. it recently ended. it's all about russia, all about the cold war. it feelsic lie could learn a thing or two from it now. there's a lot of shows like that that help you process the day's
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census. up until 1950, we did have it on the census. the census changes and we didn't ask that question. tell us about the posture of this case and this police judge, jesse furman. >> laura what is happening here is that these judges are, you know, taking these cases and imposing their own judicial philosophy and new standards that are not written into the law into these cases. you saw the exact same reasoning that judge furman used here, which is that wilbur ross, in charge of the census in his department, had made some remarks about the reasoning behind wanting to count citizens that raised an issue of animus. well the united states supreme court recently ruled that this animus theory is bogus and one of the elements that shouldn't be applied. clarence thomas has spoken out on nationwide injunctions. so basically, this is a
confusion and we have an unelected judge trying to supersede and impose his values over what the president gets to do, asking a very reasonable question in the executive branch. that's what the census is for, to count the people in the country. >> laura: they're counting all people. >> count the immigrants. >> laura: hold on, scott. they're counting all people. there's a question about whether you're a citizen or not. now, what is the problem with answering the question? i don't understand that. what is the possible constitutional argument here? >> well, because it's racially offensive, first of all. >> laura: what does it have to do with race? whether you're a citizen? >> it's directed at brown people and black people. >> laura: you're making that up. >> of course it is. >> laura: how is it directed at brown people in it's directed at all people. you ask a question. i get asked the question. you get asked the question. >> you couple that with donald
trump's -- regardless of the prourt -- -- supreme court -- >> laura: okay. >> can i say this? that case didn't also -- wasn't just rested on discrimination issues. the apa was violated. the court found despite the advisory committees as well as staff ruling against it or recommending against it, wilbur took it upon his own to put it in place. the case is not over. they just got passed a motion to dismiss. it's not the final decision. >> laura: it's not the final decision. but to say it's racial -- so now you can't -- scott, now you're saying a question asked of all people is racist? all americans would have to answer the question. that's unbelievable to me. you're a smart guy. >> it might not be racist but has a racial disparent impact. >> laura: why? >> it's absurd. >> laura: we have to move on. all right. we have to move on. we got another case.
>> does that mean i'm right? >> laura: out of portland involving trans-gender bathrooms. we've heard the trans-gender bathroom case and issue for a long time. but this is interesting because it's a parent group that has gotten together and said we understand that transgender kids have rights. but we represent families whose students, sons and daughters do not want to share a bathroom for whatever reason with a transgendered person who is born of the opposite sex. this judge said you don't have any privacy rights here. if you have a problem, leave the district. harmeet, would that take the scrutiny? i know it's the ninth district. anything goes in the ninth circuit. it's a harsh ruling against that parent's group. maybe i'm misreading it. >> i agree with you. i think it's harsh and it's wrong. obviously transgender students who may need a number of
supports and medical support, they have rights, obviously. the vast majority of them are not transgender and they have rights, too, including privacy rights. people trans-gender in their youth, they may switchback and forth. the spector has been raised, which is a real one, of people abusing this trans-gender labelling and electing it in order to peep and get into the girl's bathrooms. it's not really -- >> goodness gracious. >> it's not appropriate to look at one side or the other. i can tell you in girls locker rooms, we've been there. everything is showing. it's not really something that you want as a teenager to have a guy looking at your body. sorry to say. >> laura: i don't want anybody looking at my body. i don't like anybody. i'm one of the shy people. >> it's a slap in the face for the judge to say -- the parents are taxpayers. they have a right to have their kids educated fairly. >> laura: scott, do the parents have rights here? or just the trans-gender kids? >> not compared to the protective class that the trans-gender student rests in.
look at this way. the judge is following the law. they have no politics here. every federal judge that has looked at this case and similar cases across the country, you check the record. they have sided with the transgendered student because they cannot be discriminated against because they identify with being a woman or identify with being a guy. it's not anatomy that counts. they're in a protected class. this decision is based on the law. you don't like it but you have to live with it. >> laura: harmeet, last word. >> anatomy does count and it's relevant and the other students have privacy rights too. >> laura: there has to be some balance. >> the judge said that was conjecture. pure conjecture. you're going to be naked. come on, stop it. >> maybe the judge is not living in reality. give me a break. >> laura: scott, the fraternity brothers where i -- when i went to college, the fraternity brothers are like pranksters.
okay, i identify as this today and tomorrow -- and people playing jokes all the time too. it's a serious matter. then there's pranksters out there that take advantage of it. >> i don't think you and your guests take it seriously the plight of these young people who identify with a different gender. >> laura: come on. >> they're in a protected class. >> i have friends who are transgender. >> laura: read the research -- >> i read the opinions on both of these cases and their accurate -- >> laura: harmeet, i want to congratulate you on the ninth circuit ruling that your civil rights case, the people that beat up the trump supporter and you represented them and pro bono the whole way. they said your case can go forward. we're going to watch that closely. you had a great argument. thanks for being here. no thank you. congratulations also.
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actual issue of cohen's credibility. >> laura: who cares if he knew. >> the point being the entire case of the russia collusion hinges on him going to prague to secretly conspire with the russians. he said he didn't go. if he's a truth teller around denies this central claim that underpins the russia collusion theory, how come it didn't matter? now it matters because something he said might somehow be -- >> molly is right on that. >> laura: do either of you find it curious that no one in the sort of more mainstream press does any like serious reporting on this? serious reporting on mueller, on what is taking so long and why this attorney client privilege material is dropping out, lanny davis' past associations, the countries and the foreign entities that he's represented over the years? they're going after manafort for ukraine. but what is lanny davis' clients list looks like?
let's look at that. >> this is one of the most terrifying things about this story. >> laura: yeah. >> you have a week like this where all the things we heard about the fisa court being misled are confirmed by actual documents. the media doesn't report it. they're gas-lighting and making reality seem the opposite of what it is. when you have a case like this, we should have the media pouring all its -- i get they don't like trump but they need to report on this issue -- we know it's established. the trump campaign was surveilled in multiple ways. wiretapped, human informants, national security letters. >> laura: if they were done with hillary, they would be -- >> all the resources, laura, that "the new york times" has, "the washington post" have, with the great history they've had as well which is why people became journalists, to do investigative reporting. they stepped back and let our narrative roll because we -- we came up with the narrative.
>> laura: the amazon post is dedicated to one thing. getting trump out of office. they want to recreate the old glory days. the big anniversary of starting the impeachment today. >> it's about impeachment. >> laura: they want a pulitzer prize for that reporting. they're not going to report on the other stuff. great for being here. trump defies the critics again. the gdp report, wow! just the latest example that the economy is roaring back to life under this president. so why is the media not cheering the results? the white house is here to respond next. ♪ keep it comin' love. if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
around quarter to quarter. >> it's good to see but will it last. >> exactly. >> president trump will take a lot of credit for the numbers. don't believe him. he's -- a lot of people who bought things because they're worried about his tariffs and a lot of false growth from the tax cuts juicing the economy. >> laura: i heard people saying it was all obama's economy. all of them were really excited about his chance for more american success. here to react is the chairman of the white house council of economic advisers, kevin hasett. ' thanks for being here. >> thanks. >> laura: i know you're not surprised. this number comes out and -- we're going to play the great predictions from last year. and these media types do everything in their power to down play it or give the credit to president obama. it's stunning. >> yeah. after president trump, it's laura ingraham's economy, right? because he pursued the policies
you have been advocating for years and years. how long have we known each other? >> laura: 20 plus years. >> the fact is we said if we cut corporate taxes the jobs would come home. we said if we pursue energy dominance there will be exploration and drilling. if we had better trade deals by showing we're tough, we would reduce the trade deficit. if you look at the numbers that came out. we have a capital spending boom. structures victims skyrocketed because of all the drilling. and the trade deficit went down and contributed to higher gdp growth. everything about the trump agenda is working and that will drive the critics crazy. i'd like to add one last thing. i promise not to filibuster. there can be a sugar high in economics. you remember cash for clunkers? their brilliant idea? they bought a bunch of clunkers and people had to buy a new car. so gdp growth went up a lot in that quarter. but then after that, they had a new car and it went back down. that was a sugar high. what we see is capital spending and capital spending increases supply. so all of those factories being
built this quarter will have output in the next quarter and that output will sustain the growth. >> laura: some of the doubters are saying, well, a lot of this has been juiced by other countries buying our soy beans in anticipation of the tariffs that are now not going to happen as far as europe goes. so they're stockpiling the soy beans, a huge increase in u.s. exports of soy beans. just because they were stock piling. >> they were, yes. >> laura: they say in the months coming, these countries won't need to buy as many soybeans and that will put downward pressure on our gdp so thus, the 4.1% very high level of today is not sustainable going forward. the president says look for higher numbers today. >> you know, i don't know higher numbers, but i don't want to disagree with the president either. the fact is, that we understand farmers and the white house. we know the soy bean crop is about to be harvested in september and prices have gone down.
and in part they've gone down recently because the chinese did stockpile a lot of soybeans in anticipation of a trade dispute. that is true. but there's other things like the reshoring of activity because we're no longer an unattractive tax environment. the biggest news in today's gdp report which will frustrate the democrats, this old thing called inventories. right? so if everybody decided they're optimistic about the country and they're going to buy stuff, firms will ratchet up their consumption. they're selling stuff off the shelves because production can't adjust so far. so inventory adjustment subtracted 1% from gdp growth this quarter. >> laura: we turned into fox business tonight somehow. >> i apologize. we're going to get the 1% back because the shelves are empty. >> laura: yeah. we have some fun things here, this is what paul krugman said.
this is after the 2016 election. he said we're looking at a global recession with no end in sight. i suppose we can get lucky. but on economics as if everything else, a terrible thing has just happened. may of 2017, l.a. times, if trump thinks he can get more than 3% economic growth, he's dreaming. those are just the ones we found in five seconds in our search today. jeb bush is saying yeah, this is great because of the tax cuts. but you now have to do immigration reform and you have to have free trade policies. so he was kicking the tariffs on the way to the praise there, kevin. final comments. >> the president's strong stance on trade has delivered a lot of progress in these negotiations. on the trade deals. remember, the objective is to open up european markets, open up other markets for agricultural products. and other products from the u.s. you saw the great news from the e.u. this week. that would have never happened
if the president hadn't fought for america's workers. you've been advising him to do. >> laura: never, never. thanks for being here. i appreciate it. >> great to being here. >> laura: and his response, the same man that worked for the obama administration, austin goulsby. an economics professor at booth school of business. tell us why we should be discouraged by a good gdp number? which to listen to some of the commentary today, it's like you want to take a prozac. this is great news and so many of the democrats could not deal with the positive news for the country or for trump, which is very sad. >> look, i'm going to agree with you. i to find that sad and you could see there were a bunch of democrats trying to spin it in a partisan way. there's nothing bad about having a 4% gdp growth number. that's good. good for america and the president is entitled to say this was a good number. you can see he was beaming with
pride. the question now is how can we continue to sustain that. it's worth remembering just last quarter was a mediocre number. so we had around 2%. now we got 4%. let's hope we get more 4%s and not return to the 2%. i don't think there's anything that you should convince yourself that was bad about this number. it wasn't bad. >> laura: we aren't saying wages rise as we want, especially with the tight labor market. you'd think wages would begin the uptick that's a problem. >> and i agree. >> laura: that's been flat lining for 18 years. we're seeing bonuses though, which is nice to see. but people want to make more per year and per hour. >> we're not seeing it as we should. but that's the toughest part of the recovery. it has been true for a long time. it's not like this is just the
fault of the trump administration. it's been a long period that we haven't had enough wage growth for ordinary workers in the middle of the wage distribution, if you want to think about it. that doesn't take away from the gdp today. the gdp today is very good. but just be a little careful. there's several aspects of the gdp number today that looks like they're probably temporary. we're still growing well, but there's some parts of it that -- >> laura: remember the increase in trade hasn't kicked in yet. i mean, when this european deal gets done -- >> yeah. >> laura: i understand that nafta is going to get done now, my sources are telling me. if nafta gets done and looks much more likely now, which i can't believe i'm saying that, but it does -- >> i hope you're right. every day we don't have a trade war is a good day for america. >> laura: i am right on that.
bob lightheiser was on capitol hill. he was in front a of the senate committee. critics on both sides about the tariffs and how we're trying to take on china, this is brian schatt, democrat from hawaii. let's watch. >> first of all, you say the chinese are clever because they have a 50-year view. we should be clever and have a two or three-year view. that doesn't make sense to me. i believe that -- >> no. i'm saying we're a democracy, so we take a shorter-term view because we're responsible to our voters periodically. >> so does that mean that democracies always lose to authoritarian governments? does that mean the state capital -- >> no. sir, it just means you don't pick stupid fights. >> if your conclusion is that china taking over all of our technology and the future of our children is a stupid fight, you're right. we should capitulate. my view is that's how we got where we are. i don't think it's a stupid fight. >> laura: that doesn't get
enough play. i thought that -- that encapsulated so much of what the trump economic agenda is all about. don't cede. fight for every job. fight for every opportunity. and lightheiser is an underrated rock star in this administration. close it out. >> well, all i will say is if your main thing is about confronting china, don't pick seven fights while carrying a six shooter. that's a gunfighter's credo and that's our problem. our natural allies to stop chinese intellectual property violation would be the very country that we're threatening trade wars with. >> laura: they're working with us, austin. they're all work with us. the e.u. is working with us. korea cut a new deal. >> they're not all working with us. >> laura: korea cut a new deal months ago. they did. they cut a new deal months ago. europe is renegotiating with us. mexico is about to renegotiate nafta. canada is realizing what is going on with the steel.
>> and the europeans are joining with china to file grievances against us -- >> laura: that's just nonsense. we're out of time. >> we have to find a way to confront china to help us. >> laura: we tried. we're out of time. we're going to roll to black here. it's great to have you on again, it's not snakes on a plane but socks on a plane. are you confused? i am. you don't know what you're going to get on "the ingraham angle." stay there. or break a trip. and at expedia, we don't think you should be rushed into booking one. that's why we created expedia's add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. ♪ add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. only when you book with expedia.
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the carr wildfire in northern has turned deadly and is covering up 5 squa75 square a dramatic scene on chicago's lake shore drive. a plane making an emergency landing in traffic during the evening rush hour flying under a pedestrian bridge on the way down. luckily, believe it or not, no one was hurt. now back to "the ingraham angle." >> laura: it's friday. you know what that means. one grounded plane and the biggest documentary in the country? where to begin. for more, raymond aroyo. okay, raymond. more reboots announced this week. it's like the '90s have returned. what is the latest?
>> the 90s are back with a vengeance. "fraser" may be rebooted. remember "charm?" with the witches. and the biggest one that is causing so much blow back. and "buffy the vampire slayer." you remember that show? >> laura: no. never watched it. >> it was a huge -- in the '90s this is one of those seminal shows that captured the zeitgeist of the time. it was a girl fighting back that could be beautiful and tough. a lot of blow-back. they want to recast buffy as a black actress, have her play the lead role, this is a tweet of what is happening on social media. this is a staff writer for vulture. angelica jade. she's an african american writer. she says i'm not interested in seeing a black slayer taking on buffy and gender and race reboots. it's boring and insulting. we deserve our own mythology. that is a great important take on this. remember a few years ago, they trade to relaunch "murder she
wrote" with octavia spencer. that went nowhere. >> laura: a flop. >> angela lansberry said i can't see it. this character is so particular to that time and place. the fans agreed with her. the reboot died. >> laura: is angela lansberry still work something. >> yeah. >> laura: she's unbelievable. >> my problem with the reboots and trying to recast them, tell new stories for this generation. you're depriving this generation of their characters, their stories by trying to squeeze them in these old sitcoms in this case. i've had it with the reboots. >> laura: it's all the benetton approach to casting. >> however, if you're going to do a -- >> laura: the "star wars" things are the worst. >> "everybody loves raymond" would make a great reboot. start writing. i love that show. speaking of reboot --
>> laura: i didn't watch any of those. >> this is a curious story where we need a reboot from last night. a spirit airplane was grounded over what people on the plane were calling a stinky sock smell. the plane going from new york to ft. lauderdale was diverted to mirkle beach. i'm not making this up. >> laura: spirit is the worst -- it's the worst experience. i'm sorry. i've been on spirit air lines before. they charge you for air, for god's sake. don't breathe. it's $25. >> i'm bringing a camera next time she tries to get on a spirit flight. >> laura: sorry. no can do. >> the passengers started complaining. they got nauseous. and not just a few of them. they grounded the plane in myrtle beach. when people went aboard, they couldn't find the smell. and i was thinking, why didn't you check the passengers? you have a stinky sock smell. have you traveled when these people -- >> laura: no, no -- >> take their shoes and socks --
>> laura: no, no. i took a photo of a flight from chicago. >> not you. >> laura: not the face but a 20-something had bare feet and putting her filthy barefoot with toe rings on the arm rest next -- okay. i got like a drive heave when i saw -- filthy -- if you're traveling, it's not your bedroom. otherwise just show up in an adult diaper and call it a day. >> it's not your bathroom either. clipping the nails. >> laura: oh, no! >> clipping the toenails -- >> laura: changing babies on the pull-down tray table. >> you have to change them somewhere. every time i travel, i break out the lysol wipes. you call me felix younger. >> laura: and now it's to the point that people ask raymond -- it is the odd couple. >> guilty as charged. >> laura: raymond is like don't move. he's like -- >> don't touch anything.
you have to clean it. >> laura: all right. before we go though, before we go, there's a movie that is about to become the highest grossing biographic documentary in history. it has to be churchill, reagan. what is it? >> laura, ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood a beautiful day for a neighbor ♪ ♪ would you be mine >> laura: i hated that. >> look what i'm doing for you today. i'm putting my cardigan on for you. >> laura: the whole little village. >> let's make believe. i already feel better. i feel warmer. >> laura: you're either a cardigan person or you're not. i'm not one. i'm messing�-- i'm messing up my -- >> the new mr. rogers movie "would you be my neighbor" >> laura: no, no, no. no turtleneck.
>> this movie is the biggest documentary in the last 25 years. >> laura: men with turtlenecks doesn't work. >> this movie is about to make $25 million at the box office. the biggest documentary in the last five years to give you an idea, al gore's movie, "the inconvenient truth" made $3.7 million. and the pope francis, 1.7 million. >> laura: bomb. >> why are people going to the mr. rogers movie? >> laura: innocence. >> decency. someone uplifting people and using the medium for good. people just like you, laura. >> laura: none of the satire on cheap cynicism. of our segments. this is a beautiful little town and -- >> mr. rogers was a presbyterian minister who used the medium for good. >> laura: he was amazing. >> he helped people through difficulties. i discovered watching the movie a life-long republican you'll be happy to know. >> laura: i got a sense of that. did he have slip-on shoes or tie shoes? >> he had the slip-ons and put the sneakers on. he would put the sneakers on.
>> i wasn't a mr. rogers. >> children were captivated by him. >> laura: they were. >> we need more of that tenderness and nonpolitical warfare. >> laura: banish that from your wardrobe. >> you don't like the cardigan? >> laura: no. we exposed bad cardigans and the democrats craven attempts to get the immigration high ground? stay right there.
9/11 incident and the commission was formed and they made their recommendation, they made recommendations to protect america. but the republicans would never take them up and some of it was about our borders. >> laura: is she saying 9/11 was an incident democrats are tough on immigration. well, to debate that, let's bring in michael cutler, special agent at i.n.s., predecessor to i.c.e. and francisco hernandez. great to see both of you. francisco, how are democrats tougher on immigration than republicans? which, when she's trying to convince us of that, it leads me to believe she knows they're losing on this i.c.e. issue. she's making a bold proclamation that the democrats are for border enforcement. tell us how? >> we want to get our feelings hurt and what she says or call her bluff? prove them wrong.
make them filibuster. at least let them show their cards. we're sitting back because they hurt our feelings. what she forgot to say is to point out, all of the 911 terrorists were here legally. >> laura: no. one overstayed a visa. it was on the wrong type of visa. one shouldn't have been on the visa. so originally on an overstayed visa. but calling 9/11 an incident, as an american citizen. i know nancy has been a little slow lately. but that is abhorrent. it's beyond outrageous. michael, this argument about abolish i.c.e. which undergirds what nancy's talking about here. it's exploded across the country. protests, whipping up people. they feel bad because of separated kids. i understand that. but they backfired. the protests have backfired and most people think we need i.c.e.
because they do human trafficking boric and all this great drug interdiction work. the democrats thought it would be nirvana. i don't see it. it's a disaster. >> it's interesting. she brings up 9/11. i arrested terrorists. most people don't realize that. the second largest con ting gent of agents assigned to the terrorism task force were immigration agents. i provided testimony to the commission. when she said well, one of the things is border security. she was right. the other part of it was immigration fraud. that's the bailiwick of ice. the same agency that she was demanding be disbanded. so how in the world can you be in two places at one time except of course, washington, but the idea that we're going to take immigration out of the a equation when the 9/11 commission found that multiple failures of the immigration system particularly interior enforcement. that was the keywords in the
9/11 commission report. how do you eliminate interior enforcement and say you're following the recommendations of the 9/11 commission? it's crazy. >> laura: and jeff sessions was up in boston yesterday. he announced arrests in this major identity fraud operation where 25 individuals are now standing accused of stealing social security numbers and obtained about a quarter million dollars in government benefits. if you're not outraged by that, wait until you hear the stories connected to the border. >> out of 28 charged,21 are in custody and 22 of the total are in this country illegally. 19 have arrest records for everything from breaking and entering, assault and battery on a police officer. >> laura: francisco, you have this deal with identity fraud, social security fraud. collecting benefits.
>> and you and i have been -- >> laura: and sessions says, look, this is just the tip of the iceberg. >> it is. why don't we give these folks a reason to come out of the shadows and identify themselves so we can separate the ones that want to -- from the ones that want to harm us. >> they won't. >> we have no incentive to find out who they are. they're sitting out there using your social security number and my social security number. i.c.e. can only do what congress tells it to do. i.c.e. is dependent on the ina law. congress is blaming i.c.e. both parties are blaming i.c.e. and dhs for their failure to act -- >> laura: we're not failing to act. be very clear about that. sessions is not failing to act. i interviewed andrew lulling today on the radio. >> congress. >> laura: there is great enforcement going on. michael, you can speak to this. >> sure. >> francisco -- >> laura: they're mapping out
medicaid applications with the social security numbers and find out there's rampant fraud. it's not just people that committed violent crimes. food stamp, medicaid fraud across this country by people who came into this country illegally. it happens every single day. michael, go ahead. >> sure. francisco, wait a second. wait a moment. first of all, none of them came in legally. they all committed visa fraud. they all lied to the inspectors at the airport. wait a moment. >> they came here legally. >> you had your turn. this is my turn. the laws are adequate to go after terrorists and criminals who defraud the immigration system. >> you're right. >> the bad guys won't come out of the shadows if they know they're wanted. >> you're right. >> all you're doing is legalizing illegal aliens and giving them opportunities to hide. >> laura: very few people are covering this fraud that intersects illegal immigration. we'll be on it and dig deeper what's happening just in new
england and fentanyl is involved, too. we're going to stay on this issue. we'll stay involved. thank you. up next, it isn't just twitter that is trying to snuff out conservative voices. wait till you hear what facebook tried to do regarding a candidate running for congress in florida. that and peter teal's message for silicon valley next. ♪ ♪ ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ don't stop it now, ♪ don't stop it no. ♪ don't stop it now, ♪ don't stop it. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ don't stop it now, if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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>> laura: boy has it been a rough week for silicon valley. twitter in hot water for shadow banning conservatives, something they had to reluctantly admit and their stock is down 20%. facebook's stock has cratered after they missed their earning estimates for the first time in three years. to make matters worse, the social media giant is accused of banning this ad from a florida republican because of the second amendment message. watch. >> i'm mack caldwell. i like guns. i love the second amendment. i support our president. that's why i'm endorsed by the nra. i'm matt caldwell. that's all there is to it. >> laura: i like that ad. here to respond, the candidate himself, state representative matt caldwell. he's running as a candidate for the commissioner of agriculture.
representative caldwell, how did you find out this was, you know, banned on facebook? >> yeah, absolutely, laura. we have been obviously running statewide over a year now and running multiple ads every day just run of the mill stuff. like this, like that. we post this mom and apple pie pro president trump, pro nra endorsement ad and gets flagged immediately. we do what it tells you to. appeal it. let us know why you don't think it should be flagged. we wait and wait. no response. here we are five weeks out from the primary, two million voters and we're losing time while they review it. it gets lost in the black hole. we called them out in the media. put out a release and said we've been blocked from talking about this straightforward message that i've been sharing across the state for the last year and a half. until we called them out for it, they didn't take any action. once we did that, the bad publicity, they called it out,
apologized and allowed it. but really it's just the precedent. you go through facebook's policies. automatically, anything that deals with guns or ammunition, it gets flagged. i'm running for office. i have a platform. they paid attention to me. what about private citizens? the average person that's trying to use this platform to talk about the things they believe in and want to share. >> laura: yeah, they don't have the same opportunity that you have. certainly as you said, the platform. it makes you wonder how often this happens in the course of a day. there's a lot of stuff on these social media platforms that most people find objectionable but it doesn't get flagged. whether it's nudity, semi nudity or violence from film clips. how do you start making that judgment? this is where i prefer the free market. unless it's someone being mutilated or something that is an incitement to violence.
but thus far, there's no other problem with facebook today, right? >> no. they're running our ads now and have told us we shouldn't have anymore problems. but again, it just shows you where their mindset is at. why are guns automatically flagged? but you have things likes abortion. you can run an abortion ad. that would be -- >> laura: representative caldwell, we're out of time. we'll keep an eye on it. i have a feeling this isn't the last time we're going to be dealing with this. we'll be right back.
An exploration of news and events in the 1990s. In the opener, TV shows from the decade are examined, from animated hits South Park and Beavis and...
An exploration of news and events in the 1990s. In the opener, TV shows from the decade are examined, from animated hits South Park and Beavis and...
An exploration of news and events in the 1990s. In the opener, TV shows from the decade are examined, from animated hits South Park and Beavis and...
An exploration of news and events in the 1990s. In the opener, TV shows from the decade are examined, from animated hits South Park and Beavis and...
An exploration of news and events in the 1990s. In the opener, TV shows from the decade are examined, from animated hits South Park and Beavis and...
An exploration of news and events in the 1990s. In the opener, TV shows from the decade are examined, from animated hits South Park and Beavis and...
An exploration of news and events in the 1990s. In the opener, TV shows from the decade are examined, from animated hits South Park and Beavis and...
>> unidentified flying objects. i think that fits the description pretty well. tell me i'm crazy. >> mulder, you're crazy. >> that dynamic, that dramatic tension of believer versus skeptic is one of the engines of the show. you were always seeing it from a specific point of view. >> they're equals? >> yeah, absolutely. they are equals in a way they have kind of switched gender stereotypes, because the character i play, mulder, is the intuitive one. and scully is the rationalist, the doctor. >> a lot of folks who enjoyed "the x files" who otherwise didn't watch tv might have been drawn to the show by its, for lack of a better way to put it, its stick it to the man ethos. don't trust the government or big business or anybody but yourself and your friends and family, i guess. it's a message that's somewhat
dark and cynical, but was kind of a breath of fresh air in the early '90s. >> the '90s was a time of conspiracies. and the internet was starting to spread beyond just like hard-core computer users. so, you could have message boards and use-net news groups. and everybody wanted to talk about the black oil and the bees and mulder's sister and what the cigarette smoking man was up to. i would go to alt.tv/xfiles. and people were so nuts for this show. >> it's just pure science fiction. and that's probably what i like most about it. >> "the x-files" changed the way people watched television. you could sense these successful creators trying to see how they could do things different five or ten years ago. sometimes that led to really challenging network television that was cool and fun to watch. and sometimes it seemed to fall off the edge a little bit. ♪ let's be careful out there
>> at the time, steven bochco was a very successful producer of hour dramas and wanted to try something brand-new. >> this is the police. we have a warrant for your arrest! >> and so, his idea was to combine a gritty cop show with a broadway musical. >> i saw one in which a bunch of gang bangers were in jail. and they began to sing. life in the hood ain't no pizza pie, everybody die when the bullets fly. ♪ life in the hood ain't no pizza pie, people die when bullets fly ♪ >> and i said, wait a minute. i thought this is it. this is great. this is going to be as innovative as anything i have ever done. ♪ he's guilty, judge ♪ he's guilty ♪ you could see it in his eyes ♪ he did the crime
♪ and now he's gotta pay >> nope. it circled the drain. >> i will give credit to anybody who goes outside the box and swings really hard for the fences. ♪ i worked real hard and i got my education ♪ >> i'm creatively proud of it. still. you know, i'm very glad we tried it. i don't think i'd want to do it again. (thomas) nice choices! you see, now verizon lets you mix and match your family unlimited plans like you mix and match your flavors. so you get what you want, without paying for things you don't. number 6. i know. where do i put it? in my belly. (vo) one family. different unlimited plans. starting at $40 per line on the network you deserve.
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generation x, the 20 somethings, boomer answ eeboome, whatever the 46 million young souls are called are turning out to be a hard sell. >> in the '90s, what we realized is advertisers would pay premiums for college-educated young adults 18 to 49. and we started reinventing nbc and trying to speak to that audience. >> where is someone? i'm starving. >> this is him right here. >> oh. is there a table ready? >> the chinese restaurant was one of the very, very early episodes of "seinfeld." and truly nothing happened in the episode. they were waiting for a table. >> i feel like just walking over there and taking some food off of somebody's plate. >> we said to larry david, hey, like, nothing happens.
and larry was offended. he was, like, wildly offended. >> nbc believed in the show so they said we're committing to four episodes. >> yes. yeah, right. four episodes. >> formally it's 13 or 8 or something. >> yes, at least. so, we doesn't really think they had too much confidence in the show. >> we didn't think it would work, but we felt that they had to go through their process and they would learn and ultimately, they knew better than we did. >> my mother caught me. >> caught you? doing what? >> you know. i was alone. >> the turning point for "seinfeld" from, like, nice show that all of the cool people know about but that's it, to massive hit was an episode called "the contest," where they tried to abstain from self-pleasure for as long as possible.
>> 6:30, time for your bath. >> george, i'm hungry. >> hang on, ma. hang on. >> once you do 30 minutes on masturbation, you can pretty much get away with anything. >> i guess you'll be going back to that hospital. >> my mother, jerry. >> but are you still master of your domain? >> i am king of the county. >> the week after that aired, people were talking about that in the workplace the entire week. >> they still are talking about it. 52 seconds and two of the greatest words in sitcom history. >> i'm out. >> one of the shorthand descriptions of "seinfeld" is no hugs, no lessons. let's push it a little further than it's ever been pushed before. >> i think the big breakthrough of "seinfeld" was that the characters were not nice people.
>> someone help! >> shut up! >> they were narcissistic. >> help! >> they would screw each other at the drop of a hat. >> he's just a dentist. >> and you're an anti-dentite. >> and yet be best friends the next week. ♪ when you wish upon a star >> you don't have to love them. we just have to laugh at them. >> i'm really sorry. >> i was in the pool. i was in the pool! >> the idea of a character with darker tendencies, that was so taboo in television comedy. >> are you about done? >> i'm just getting warmed up. >> we're in the confines of
network tv with commercials, with still a lot of things that are very highly structured and yet we're able to find ways of pushing in the boundaries. >> no soup for you. >> it took us to a new level of comedy. and it kind of defined like, yeah, nbc, thursday night, this show, expect the unexpected. >> can you sing the theme song from "cheers"? >> "cheers," yeah. how does it start? ♪ making your way in the world today ♪ it's so corny. >> come on, i know. it's cute. just sing it. ♪ takes everything you got ♪ taking a break from all your worries sure can help a lot ♪ ♪ wouldn't you like to get away ♪ ♪ sometimes you want to go ♪ where everybody knows your name ♪ >> we decided to end "cheers" in the 11th year. and over 93 million people watched the finale of "cheers." it's a sad experience for everybody. this was our baby for 11 years and we're not going to be around
these people every day. >> you people are as dear to me as my own family. >> we had been serving fake suds forever. it was time for everybody to sip. in fact, i was sipping along with them. >> time goes by so fast. people move in and out of your life. you must never miss an opportunity to tell these people how much they mean to you. >> we had been through so much together. you spend so much time with the same set of people, it does become your family. >> i feel pretty lucky to have the friends i do. >> i think the legacy of "cheers" is our need to belong. and i think that's what we as americans are longing for. >> thank you, guys. >> the final scene of "cheers" was really what was sam's real first love. >> you can never be unfaithful to your one true love. >> i'm the luckiest son of a
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as a young kid in cleveland, i knew i would one day end up doing a talk show. >> it's arsenio hall! >> in less than two years, arsenio hall has fired his talk show for the mtv generation into a contender for the crown of late night television. >> yes, yes! >> how come i didn't hear all of that woofing going on? when i would watch you -- >> too many white people. >> johnny was the big dog. but i knew everybody on the planet wasn't watching him. and it dawned on me that i could go many weeks and not see a motown group on "the tonight show." >> arsenio hall has been dubbed the prince of late night. >> there was a whole world of talent that had never and would never have been on any late night show.
♪ sitting at home watching arsenio hall ♪ >> 2livecrew came on and sang "me so horny", it was like the sex pistols. i'd never seen anything like it. it was an explosion in the audience. ♪ >> he appealed to a black and white young audience and it was a much broader appeal than the powers that be estimated. >> rap. rap is real big among our teens. that's poetry. >> of course it is. >> having maya angelou on, i mean, where would you have seen her otherwise? >> in 1892, he wrote a poem called "a negro love song." it says seen my lady home last night, jump back, honey, jump back. held her hand and squeezed it tight, jump back, honey, jump back. >> he didn't just have black people on his show. but if you were hip, you wanted to be on arsenio.
>> this was something i heard a political analyst talk about recently. he said you kind of were -- i use the word chilling out. he said you were pulling back. you had been instructed not to say as much or be outspoken. no? >> i've heard that, but i never know who says it. it's wishful thinking on the part of some people. >> guess who suggested to bill to do the arsenio hall show if you want to get a younger demo? hill-dawg. ♪ >> he attracted a lot of people who weren't fans before that night. ♪ >> the '90s was a glorious moment for black television. because you saw these representations that you'd never seen before. ♪ the premise of "the fresh
prince" was this kid who comes from philadelphia. ♪ in west philadelphia ♪ born and raised s♪ ♪ on the brplayground is where spent most of my days ♪ >> his mom says, i'm going to send you to live with your uncle. he shows up at this mansion in bel air, baseball cap on backward. like he doesn't even know how to act in this environment. the black producers and directors and writers were always playing with this kind of subverting expectations of what is blackness. >> the incredible work of "the fresh prince" at its most triumphant is when it was showing the ways that being black is always going to be a problem, no matter what. >> vehicle registration, please. >> just a second. but the thing is, officer, this isn't my car. >> there's the episode, i remember, where they get pulled over in a car -- >> what? >> he's going to tell us to get out of the car. >> you watch too much tv, will.
>> get out of the car. >> we have an interaction with the police officer that is horrible and racist in a lot of ways. and carlton has this epiphany about how money won't save him. >> no map is going to save you. and neither is your glee club or your fancy bel air address or who your daddy is. because when you're driving in a nice car in a strange neighborhood, none of that matters. they only see one thing. >> the writers of "the fresh prince of bel air" had a really hard task to approach these topics with nuance and were doing it at a clip that was way ahead of their time. >> now don't touch that dial. we're about to flip it for you to one of this year's most talked about tv shows. it is, as they say, on another network. fox. ♪ you can do what you want to do ♪ ♪ in lovie living color ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, keenan ivory wayans. >> "in living color" was the first show created by, written
by, directed by, starring an african-american, all of those things in one. >> this is more a celebration of culture and an exchange. us sort of opening the doors and allowing america to come inside. >> yo, yo, yo, all you bad bargain hunters out there, welcome to the homeboys shopping network. >> a lot of what they did on "in living color" was trying to take the stereotypes or the misperceptions about what black men are and turn them upside down. >> not only will you get all the cable stations out there, but you'll be able to talk directly to the astronauts. >> it brought this smart, very controversial comedy that black folks had never seen before that centered around their life experiences. >> who are you? >> i am the minister louis farrakhan. >> african-americans composed 25% of fox's market. >> i always get trapped in the corner with somebody named bob.
hey, listen, martin, i just saw "boys in the hood," all right? i didn't know, martin, i didn't know. >> and they knew that they needed to capture this audience to grow. >> i guess you think you smart and cool, but if you think you're getting a job here, you're gettia damn fool. >> so, they basically gave the black creators freedom to do whatever you want. just get the audience. >> the wb and upn took that concept from fox. >> your shoulders are harder than cheap breast implants. >> going after this underserved audience of urban minority viewers and really ran with it. >> i'm a new millennium woman who will not be defined by traditional female roles, okay? >> a lot of the networks built themselves up partially on african-american viewers. >> shake it to the east, shake it to the west. >> the african-american shows indexed lower in terms of household income.
>> what? >> so, over the course of the decade, the networks started to move away from those shows. >> i don't know about you people, but i'll be damned if it i'm going to let them destroy my neighborhood. >> black creators felt used and abused. you made your money. you know, you built your audience on us, and now, you know, you're done. music: "other side" by nvdes there's a lot of volkswagen in every volkswagen. during volkswagen smile and drive days, you can lease a value packed 2018 tiguan s for just $189 a month or get a $1000 bonus.
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>> then we started on the language. >> we heard some with the brains of a flea and the balls of a moth. >> the program premiered with an advertising boycott. >> channel 7, shame on you! >> but it was such an immediate hit, that boycott lasted, oh, four weeks. >> come on, line 'em up. >> they could use the nudity and the curse words to go deeper into the actual emotional burden of being a cop. >> i'm an asshole. >> and it had this character, andy sipowicz. he is a raging alcoholic, racist, sexist, violent. >> hey! >> he created the tv anti-hero. >> you know, i go that great, that african-american george washington carver discovered the peanut. but can you provide names and addresses of these friends? >> you know, you're a racist scumbag. >> despite his flaws, despite his prejudices, i think people identified with his pain. >> i wish there was a way to say
this that wouldn't hurt you. >> there's a famous episode where they are investigating the rape and murder of a young boy. and they find a homeless child molester who murdered the kid and sipowicz to get the confession has to be very sensitive and very good cop. >> i know this has got to be tearing you up inside. but you're going to feel a lot better if you just tell the truth. >> you can sort of see on dennis franz's face this is killing him to not destroy this guy right now. finally, he gets the confession he gets the signed statement. he walks out of the room, he goes into another interrogation room and he breaks the door in two with his fist. and i'm choking up talking about it right now, because that's how great a moment of tv that it is. >> 20 years from now, the best tv dramas, what do they look like? >> i don't know. >> will they be bolder than what we see today? >> oh, assuredly, assuredly they will be.
>> the '90s gave us several shows that didn't really explode in the ratings but were very influential to other people making television. "homicide" is one of them. ♪ shell me with questions all night ♪ ♪ i'm living in a danger zone >> "homicide: life on the street" was really innovative in terms of its style. it used music in ways that advanced the narrative and also used feature film directors that brought a look and style to the show that really stood out on television. >> tears coming out of your eyes. >> ain't no tears coming from my eyes. >> his eyes are brimming with tears. >> they had so many african-american characters in the cast that on several occasions they were the only people on camera interacting with one another. and that sounds like, so? but as late as the '90s, that wasn't done on television. >> when a cop shoots somebody, he stands by. he picks up the radio mic and calls it in. he stands by the body. if not, cops are no better than anybody else.
>> in the '90s, television was getting more complicated, stories were starting to become more episodic and characters were starting to develop and change. none of that happened on "law & order." >> this was a show that completely delivered on its formula every time. you get a crime, you got the investigation into the crime. >> you better be packing more than a dirty mouth. >> you got an arrest. >> what's the charge? hey, i'm asking you a question. what's the charge? >> there's no charge. this one's on us. >> then you had a trial. >> he's badgering, your honor. >> sit down and shut up. >> overruled. you will address the court from now on, mr. mccoy. >> so, every time you watched, you got what you came for. >> tell me, doctor. all those women you ran through your examination rooms, do you remember their faces or did you not even bother to look up? >> you had in "law & order" the kind of characters people take to heart. >> i'll let you take me to lunch.
one time offer. >> and if you're an actor and you say well, gee, maybe it's not really such a bad medium after all. >> miranda, the supreme court's mimic decision. the whole thing was illegally obtained. they were both represented by counsel. >> you just get hooked in. it's life and death and stuff. >> we know what you did. >> counsel. >> you hear me? do you hear me? look at me! do you hear me! >> "law & order" was like crack. you'd have to sit and watch me for 50 minutes just like, not moving, barely breathing. there's times i have almost passed out watching "law & order." >> you have to get over here, i need your help. >> "e.r." had originally been written as a movie for steven spielberg to direct. we had this two-hour piece which
was michael's reflection of experiences as a medical student. >> you need a large in case they're bleeding. do you know how to start an i.v.? >> actually, no. >> "e.r." is a hospital show, but it's really an action movie. >> this way. this way. >> three walking wounded. red urgent, yellow critical and black d.o.a. got it? >> got it. >> a gurney comes in, people are shouting instructions, climbing on the body and doing cpr and racing off to the surgical suite. >> get that gurney out of there! >> someone wanders in. they're tossing around medical jargon. they don't stop to explain what it is. prep for a peritoneal lavage. i think i know what that is now, but only because i watched a lot of "e.r." over the years. >> you can try, but i don't think his heart would take it. we can bypass him. what do you think in. >> you're the attending. >> that would be the fastest way. what do you think? >> you're the attending. >> there was so much information
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we'll have a stronger defense piece. this is going to be one dynamite company. >> there's a danger that news will be mixed up with the rest of television and considered just another profit. >> late 1920s, to early 1930s, to the early 1980s, the sense was, we'll give some of the broadcasting time to public service, but the 1990s, journalism in the country changed a great deal. you couldn't talk about public service. it was, what are the ratings going to be? what are the demographics going to be? what is the profit going to be? well -- sensationalism sells. in a plea bargain, 18-year-old amy fisher got up to 15 years in prison for shooting the wife of her alleged lover. >> so intense is the interest in it in this case that there are three, three made for tv movies now in the works about it. >> you make money off sex. you make money off death. you make money off crime. >> the press calls the case the beverly hills mansion murders.
and the story reads like one of the unsold scripts that circulate here in hollywood. >> we enter into the television news soap opera. >> a story of basic instincts, anger and fear. >> i was scared and i just wanted him to leave me alone. >> and so, broadcast journalism loses its purity and becomes much more shoddy and sensationalistic. and then it all comes together with o.j. simpson. >> i'm larry carrol in los angeles. the los angeles county district attorney has just filed murder against o.j. simpson. >> i have to interrupt this call. i understand we're going to go to a live picture in los angeles. police believe that o.j. simpson is in that car? >> the o.j. simpson story starts with the chase and then goes on to his arrest and then culminates with the trial, which goes on and on and on and is televised day after day after day. >> this is going to be a long trial. there's a lot of evidence to come in.
>> the o.j. simpson case was such a national phenomenon that those of us who were covering it just lived this case 24 hours a day, because there was so much demand for people talking about it. >> as simpson struggled to slide >> as simpson struggled to slide the gloves on to his hands and turned to a juror saying "they're too small," prosecutors were incensed. >> the trial was on television during the hours that had traditionally been the time for soap operas. >> he appears to have pulled the gloves on, counsel. >> and o.j. was very much a soap opera. >> impeached by his own witness. >> i ask you to put a stop to it. >> excuse me, mr. bailey. will you stand up and speak when it's your turn. >> no question that the best tv show of the '90s was the o.j. simpson trial, and everybody on it was riveting. >> nbc news in depth tonight, the simpson trial finally
winding to a close. >> we the jury in the above entitled action find orenthal james simpson not guilty of the crime of murder. in violation of penal code section 187-a -- >> the verdict of the o.j. simpson trial viewed by 150 million people. it's more people than watch presidential election returns. that's crazy. >> because there was trial footage every day, cnn saw its audience increase like five times. the success of cnn was not lost on other people. and so there were competing forces coming into play. >> how delighted i am we have now reached this moment when we can firmly announce the starting of a fox news channel. >> unfortunately, with cable news and the ability -- or the need to be on the air 24/7, where you try to get as many eyeballs as possible at one
time, to gravitate toward those stories that are sensational, it brought us the ability to go too far. >> is the jonbenet ramsey murder investigation turning into a media circus? >> yes, it's tabloid. but on the other hand it's a tabloid era. here's the point. here's where the fear comes into it, i think, larry. it's the fear that says, gosh, if we don't cover it big-time, our competition is. when they cover it big-time, they'll get a big jump in the ratings. the first thing is to last, to last and survive, we've got to do it. >> what you also see is a whole army of commentators, people who make their business talking about the news. >> what i say is what we should do is we should bomb his capability of producing oil. take out his refineries, his stations, his wells. >> they don't have any capability. >> they're certainly selling a lot of oil -- >> no they're not -- >> the networks were doing good journalism but they became much
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then she came back to me. which was excruciating. >> i thought frasier was dead with "cheers." but we thought, we got a built-in audience, and great potential to build out the character to another place. ♪ >> "frasier" was kind of like one-act plays. ♪ >> mother and i moved here when i was a small boy after the tragic death of my father. i kept the pain of that loss buried deep within me like a serpent coiled within a damp cave. okay, that's it. >> we always assumed the audience was smarter than most other people did. and we played to that. >> just unschooled like liza doolittle. >> henry higgins. she'll be ready for a ball in no
time. >> leave it to you to put the pig back in pygmalion. >> kelsey grammar played pom positive like nobody you've ever seen and got huge laughs. >> don't consider a move until my fingers have completely cleared the piece. >> what's taking so long? >> but i am analyzing my options. unlike your wing-it approach i like to plan a strategy, like a general leading his troops into battle. >> checkmate, schwarzkopf. >> i think "frasier" stands as the single most successful spinoff, at least in the history of sitcoms. >> and the emmy goes to "frasier." >> "frasier." >> "frasier." >> we were lightning hot and it was critical for us to be leading the way, not just following. ♪ >> "friends" is about that time
in your life when your friends are your family. >> ow! >> when david crane and i lived in new york we were part of a group of six people. we were all attached at the hip. we went everywhere together and celebrated everything together. and there's that period where you're looking to be out there on your own and the people you rely on are the ones who live down the hall. >> here we go. pivot. pivot. pivot! pivot! pivot! pivot! >> shut up! shut up! shut up! >> "friends" permeated the culture in a way that was really special. everybody was obsessed with the show. and it became like which one of these characters are you? if you were a girl, were you phoebe, monica or rachel? >> i got to tell you this really does put me in a better mood. >> the kids who were watching, the young audience, saw a
lifestyle that was aspirational. i wish i had an apartment in new york city that no one seems to be worried about the rent for. i wish that i looked like matt leblanc. i wish that i had jennifer aniston's hair. one of the things that made "friends" a phenomenon is people beyond the laughs actually bonded with these characters. they emotionally were invested in ross and rachel's relationship. >> i could not have done this without you. >> okay. more clothes in the dryer? >> i was dropping my daughter off for sunday school at our temple, and literally my rabbi stopped me and said, what's going to happen with ross and rachel? >> you look pretty tonight. >> oh, thanks. >> the one with the prom video is one of my favorites. >> you guys, we don't have to
watch this. >> yeah, we do. >> come on. come on. >> where's chip? why isn't he here yet? >> he'll be here, okay? take a chill pill. >> this seemed like a really surprising way to get rachel to know how ross feels. >> i can't go to my own prom without a date. >> take her. you can wear my tux. >> dad, she won't want to go with me. >> she's learning something new and he thinks, oh, god, please don't let her see this. please don't let her see this. >> rachel, ready or not, here comes your knight in shining -- oh, no. >> bye! >> chip! >> oh, dear. >> ross sees himself and you see that look on his face and how sad he is because he wanted to take her to the prom. >> when she crossed the room, i still kind of get chills from it. when she crossed the room and gave him that kiss --
[ cheers and applause ] >> -- the audience went insane. >> at the height of must-see tv, thursday nights on nbc, 75 million americans watched thursday night. that was at the time one-third of the country. >> ooh! what is this stuff? >> the sweater is angora. >> well, it's wonderful. >> the machine that was nbc in the '90s for comedy was untouchable. >> you're not from around here, are you? >> it generated so much viewership and money and awards. >> you do not need this. >> it's the top of our wedding cake. >> we're not -- it's not a scrapbook, it's a freezer. >> no! >> we were all kind of part of this chapter in television where we realized we were in the right place at the right time.
>> let's see how you like this, naughty boy. >> we certainly associate nbc of the '90s of having extremely successful sitcoms but they weren't the only network that found their way to having some success. tgif was on abc on friday, and it was their block of family-oriented comedies. >> i can't take it. i need the cake. >> it was not sophisticated television. but these were shows that people adored. [ laughing and snorting ] >> cbs. >> cbs was in a really bad spot. they had just fallen apart over the early part of the '90s and had gone through a couple different network executives. >> but then suddenly they had this hit with an unknown comic.
this was the year of "seinfeld," no hugging, no learning, and this was a show being made as if it was produced in the era of the dick van dyke show. >> i love you. >> there was hugging. there was learning. >> i love you, son. >> all right, all right. >> if you worked for me, your job was so go home, get in a fight with your wife and come back in and tell me about it. >> don't sleep on the couch. i just cleaned down there. >> in fact, the pilot i put in this true thing that happened to me wherein i sent my parents a gift for the holidays of the fruit of the month club. >> and did you know you sent me a box of pears from a place called fruit of the month. >> that's right. that's right. how are they? >> and my mother reacted as if i had sent her a box of heads from a murderer. >> why did you do this to me? >> oh, my gosh. >> i can't talk. there's too much fruit in the house! >> oh! what is happening? >> what do you think we are, invalids?
we can't go out and get our own fruit? >> i tried to tell him. >> all right. i'm cancelling the fruit club. >> the real story is where the real connection with your audience is. thank god, all your families are crazy, too. >> looks like you got the whole family together. >> yeah, yeah, it's dysfunction palooza. is this at&t innovations? yeah, wow..this must be for one of our new unlimited wireless plans. it comes with a ton of entertainment options. great, can you sign for this? yeah. hey, uh.. what's in that one? that's a shark. new and only with at&t, you can get unlimited data, 30+ channels of live tv, and your choice of things like hbo or amazon music. more for your thing. that's our thing. visit att dot com.
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♪ >> johnny carson wasn't just the host of "the tonight show." johnny carson was the man that america said good night to for 30 years. ♪ >> and on my watch, johnny decided that 30 years was a great time to take a bow and say thank you and good night. >> 30 years is enough. it's a good time to get out while you're still on top of your game plan. >> johnny carson retiring in the early '90s was the great moment where a huge chunk of the ice shelf breaks off. something that has been there for centuries, for thousands of years, suddenly is no longer there. >> a tremendous part of history. and that's lovely to have made your mark on an era like that. >> johnny had told no one what he had planned to do, and we weren't prepared.
and that set off a game of musical chairs for who would get the throne, and there only was one late-night throne. >> hi, you guys! >> jay leno had been pretty much carson's regular substitute host when he went on vacation. >> you know what's amazing, only six months ago people were talking about donald trump as a presidential candidate. right? that's true. since then he's had an affair, left his wife, run up debt of several million dollars, so i guess he's going to be running as a democrat, huh? >> jay leno wanted to essentially just continue doing a johnny carson-type show. and david letterman was the show immediately following carson. and they had different styles. >> what is your name? >> i'm going to ask you to turn the cameras off, please. >> okay, we just wanted to drop off this basket of fruit -- >> part of dave's thing was he attacking authority, he liked that. >> he needed a corporate bad guy
to go up against. i was oftentimes that target. >> i can hear this warren littlefield guy whining all year long about not getting his name on the card last year. >> he's on it. >> look, what about me? i could be on there, couldn't i? >> it was always letterman's dream to be the host of "the tonight show." he idolized johnny carson, rightfully so. >> the big decision that's had the entertainment industry buzzing is due this week. that of course is the fate of nbc's "late night" stars jay leno and david letterman. >> most of us thought the person who deserved to get it was david letterman. he didn't get it. jay leno got it. >> leno, who earlier rode his motorcycle into a news conference hosted by nbc entertainment president warren littlefield, still has a bruised ego about the way the network wavered in its support for him. >> when we found out leno was going to get "the tonight show," we were all obviously depressed. we felt like we were being punished for making fun of them and not cooperating and not being as collaborative as we
could have been. and we also felt like we were being disrespected because we did 11 years of great shows. >> just how pissed off are you? [ laughter and applause ] >> by all rights, david letterman should have taken over for johnny carson, but his agent took a very, very aggressive stand. we're going to really control all of late night. it's going to cost you a fortune. and they put our backs to the wall. >> i can only tell you it's been an honor and a privilege to come into your homes all these years and entertain you. and i hope when i find something i want to do and i think you will like and come back, that you will be as gracious inviting me into your home as you have been.
i bid you a very heartfelt good night. >> "the tonight show" without johnny carson as the regular host made its debut last night. jay leno emerged from behind the curtain, stepping into the big shoes that were filled for 30 years by johnny. >> cbs came to us and made a very attractive offer. >> here we go, number ten. head cbs, tails cbs. number nine -- >> letterman did place a call to johnny carson asking for his advice and johnny said, if it was me, i would leave. and i think that advice was really the linchpin. letterman always took johnny's advice. >> the late-night wars are about to begin in earnest on american television. david letterman is now headed for cbs. >> cbs had lured him over with a salary more than four times that of leno and given him what he really wanted, the 11:30 time slot. now as dave and jay prepare to go head to head, one thing is clear -- late-night tv will never be quite the same. >> all of a sudden, there's a
talk show war. >> start up your remote controls. the late-night race is about to begin. >> on monday, david letterman's new show debuts here on cbs. followed a week later by chevy chase on fox and a week after that by conan o'brien on nbc. these combatants join "the tonight show" with jay leno, arsenio, and nightline. >> it became a crowded space and the competition became that much more difficult. >> in the third corner, his ratings fading rapidly, arsenio hall. some tv writers think arsenio could be the big loser in this free-for-all. >> when letterman came in, it essentially diluted arsenio's brand because there were so many alternatives. >> i'm sad to see you go because america is going to have a big chunk missing out of its existence. >> losing arsenio, yeah, it was bad. he was the lone voice, gone.
>> david letterman had the suits at nbc pausing for a moment. did we make the right choice? because he came out gangbusters and he was beating jay leno in the ratings. >> there's some people who say, you blew it, that by picking leno to replace carson over letterman, that that was a big programming mistake. >> it was a shaky start. a really, really shaky first season start. >> it's true confessions time for actor hugh grant who is trying hard to put his recent encounter with a hollywood prostitute behind him. >> when hugh grant was arrested, it was big, live action news and hugh grant was supposed to do "the tonight show" that night. >> what the hell were you thinking? [ rim shot ] [ cheers and applause ] >> it all came together in that moment and everyone saw it and
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in the mid-1990s if you took a look at the list of the 50 most-watched shows on cable, at the top would be nickelodeon. "rug rats," "blues clues." >> don't you know cartoons will ruin your mind? >> "ren and stimpy" had some very surreal, high-concept humor to it. this is the beginning of the splintering of the television audience and splintering of the family audience, really, because with families having three or four tvs in the house you had a kid watching nickelodeon, the dad watching espn sports, the mom watching lifetime. you know, they were in their own separate universes watching television. by the time of the '90s, mtv
wasn't merely a music channel. they were having great success in terms of creating shows that incorporated music but that also were shows and programs that stood on their own. >> yes! >> huh huh huh! huh huh huh! huh huh huh! that was cool! >> "beavis and butthead" established what mtv could be because the shows were about making fun of music videos just like people in the audience were doing. >> whoa, check out his neck. >> yeah. there's like all these bones and stitches moving around. >> yeah. >> my manager would call me, like, hey, you got this big bump because you were on "beavis and butthead" last night. >> i sit there like a doughnut watching these guys. and i find them endlessly entertaining because i know and you know and the world knows, these guys are always, will be, and cannot be anything but idiots. >> that's right. >> mtv has a detrimental,
damaging, developmental effect on the sexuality, on the morality, on the spirituality, maybe even the physical development of our young people. ♪ >> now we hit the '90s and once you can go for an audience of 5 million and have a successful show, you can say, i don't care if the parents don't like this. >> can i tell you something, miss ellen? >> of course, wendy. >> don't [ bleep ] with me! >> what? >> you heard me. stay away from my man, bitch, or i'll whoop your sorry little ass back to last year! >> trey parker and matt stone were two of the funniest people i ever met. and their success story is proof that if you just stay true to yourself, you don't have to do anything else. >> people think, oh, you came and did the show and now you're big sellouts. the truth is, we were sellouts to begin with.
>> perhaps there is no stopping the corporate machine. >> i mean, we were sleeping at friends' houses, had no money, and then one fox executive had seen a cartoon we had made in college and he said, make me another christmas video i can send out as a christmas card. he gave us like 700 bucks. we went and made this five-minute short. >> i come seeking retribution. >> he's come to kill you because you're jewish, kyle. >> oh [ bleep ]. >> it went around the tv community like wildfire. >> i mean, it -- it was the funniest thing you'd ever seen in your life. >> go, santa! >> somebody showed me the short. >> go, jesus! >> i thought it was hysterical. i called and said get them in here right away. >> oh, my god! they killed kenny. you bastards! >> "south park" was able to be topical. >> "south park" really, really detests hypocrites.
>> christians and republicans and nazis, oh, my! >> well, okay, mrs. cartman, i'll legalize 40th trimester abortions for you. >> could you imagine back then that these people would ever get on network television or any kind of television? >> it's a miracle. "south park" is a miracle. >> the early '90s the hbo shows start to kind of come into their own. >> and then have i always had these breasts? >> a lot of people want freedom. they don't want to go back to the networks, which are saying you can come to us where you'll make more money but you'll also have content restricted. you could go to cable and have no restrictions. not make as much money but have freedom of expression, which almost everybody who works in these mediums wants.
>> some of the content truly was, you can't get this anywhere else. >> you're a fantasymaker, the only limit on the kinds of fantasies is people's imagination. >> hbo turned to people who said, i can't do that on television, but you can do it on hbo. >> white people don't trust black people. that's why they won't vote for no black president. like a black brother will [ bleep ] up the white house. like the grass won't be cut. dishes piled up. cousins running through the white house. cookouts. basketball going in the back. >> in the late '80s hbo was just sort of gaining ground for series. >> by the '90s hbo had started to begin its explosion. >> when we started doing "dream on" one of the things hbo said to us was, it's got to be something that couldn't be on
network tv. ♪ >> because hbo was driven by subscribers and not by commercials and selling advertising time, they had a different way of looking at success or failure. what they were looking for was critical acclaim. >> you've watched letterman, you've watched leno, but what about larry? larry sanders, that is. he's the tv alter ego of comedian garry shandling. >> garry shandling wanted to do a show that deconstructed the kind of show "the tonight show" was. >> just pretend like you're talking to me till we're off the air so it won't seem weird. >> okay. blah, blah, blah, blah. >> "the larry sanders show" was sort of cathartic. because in the world of "the larry sanders show," there was a network. >> you want me to [ bleep ] your budget? is that what you want me to do? >> so it became this weird funhouse mirror thing, where you could use stuff from your misery, your career, as fodder. >> don't take this as a threat but i killed a man like you in
korea, hand to hand. my boy doesn't want to do any more commercials. >> larry sanders to me was, aside from being a brilliant television show -- >> can you say, hey now. >> hey now. >> it was my everyday life. >> i'm here for three good reasons. last show. big ratings. movie coming out. bim, bam, boom. >> "the larry sanders show" was very unique in that it was very deadpan. and really groundbreaking in its day. >> i think it made people really go, that's the level of work you may be able to do on a cable network. >> please, do not flip around. come right back. >> hey now! oh, you sound good. (vo) this is not a video game.
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it's always been my problem. lots of protection but nothing to protect. >> i wanted to do a tv series that was going to be relevant to teenagers. and it's not about the parents solving the kids' problems. it's about the kids basically solving their own problems. >> what are we supposed to do, sit him down and have a kid-to-parent talk. >> no, you can't talk to parents on that mature level. tragic but true. >> if the '60s had beatle mania, the '90s had "90210" mania. when tv guide had its "youth-quake" cover, that was a sign that suddenly television was focused on these young people. ♪ "my so-called life" was the punk rock version of "90210." it was earnest but not at all saccharine. it didn't have easy answers. it showed teen heartbreak in a way that was staggeringly real for the time. >> you like this. >> like what? >> like how you are.
>> hey jordan, you coming or not? >> how am i? how am i? >> "my so-called life" was your actual life. and the idea that everyone in high school is a misfit, that you have this deep insecurity about who you're supposed to be. >> you know how sometimes the last sentence you said like echoes in your brain? and it keeps just sounding stupider? and you have to say something else just to make it stop. >> oh, i just remembered. i owe you $30. >> "my so-called life" was not necessarily the show the cheerleader or captain of the football team were watching. they were still watching "90210". but it was the people who maybe didn't recognize themselves in "90210" who felt like, ah-ha, now i recognize myself in "my so-called life." >> demarco asked me if you were getting a sex change. >> exactly. i don't want to be a girl. i just want to hang with girls.
>> ricky was out on the show eventually, and that was a storyline treated with great sensitivity. >> and i belong nowhere. with no one. and i don't fit. >> i mean, it was -- it was so deeply felt. it was saying to the viewer, things that you have gone through, they matter. >> "buffy the vampire slayer" depicted high school in a similar way to "my so-called life" except rather than just feeling like hell, it actually was hell. her high school was literally built on top of hell. and so all of these creatures would come up that she would have to fight. >> three in one night. >> it was a brilliant metaphor for adolescence and all the demons that you have to slay. >> you know, buffy was a
teenager, and she was still finding out who she was. one of the storylines that was very popular and much talked about was where she has sex with her boyfriend for the first time, and then in sort of the world of buffy, he becomes literally evil. >> there must be part of you inside that still remembers who you are. >> dream on, schoolgirl. >> in order to save the world, literally, she knows she has to send him to hell. >> buffy knows in an instant that angel has become good again. >> buffy! >> so she has this moment of reckoning that she has to decide whether to do this or not, and she makes the sacrifice to push him back into hell. >> the show was really working on multiple levels. in buffy in particular, we saw a character that was a reluctant
protagonist. forced to make tough decisions. >> there was a kind of opening of the floodgates in the '90s for women. the idea of being an ideal, i think, was kind of smashed through a lot of the characters on television. >> look, if you're a successful saleswoman in this city, you have two choices. you can bang your head against a wall and try to find a relationship or you can say screw it and just go out and have sex like a man. >> "sex and the city" was a huge success right from the start. it was very funny, very clever, and very candid. >> are relationships the religion of the '90s? >> these are women who are making a good living, they were independent, they were single, and they were sort of feeling their power. >> i said all of them. bad waiter, bad waiter. >> what do you tip for that? >> i wanted these women to be objectifying men in the way men had always objectified women. >> all right.
my turn. >> sorry, i have to go back to work. >> you didn't used to be able to discuss sex as sex. network shows, there never were people talking about orgasms or organs or sex. >> okay, words are essential. tell me exactly how he worded it. >> we've been seeing each other for a couple of weeks, i really like you, and tomorrow night after dinner i want us to have anal sex. >> these are women who shared everything with each other and they're discussing what anal sex means. >> it goes up there, there's going to be a shift in power. either he'll have the upper hand or you will. >> and should she do this or not? >> this is a physical expression that the body -- well, it was designed to experience. and p.s., it's fabulous. >> what are you talking about? i went to smith. >> the show took an interesting turn by really focusing on the relationship between the women and telling the story of them as really soul mates together as well. >> you did the right thing
buying that apartment. you love it, right? >> yeah. >> and you won't be alone forever. >> historically women are often set up in narratives in which only one can succeed. and so showing women not competing with each other and as supporting each other was also an important narrative change. >> okay, girls, see you tomorrow. >> okay. >> night-night. >> the show had a message of freedom and liberation especially for women that really resonated. i think "sex and the city" helped make hbo a place for people to think, i wonder what they'll be doing next. ♪ be right back. with moderate to severe crohn's disease, i was there, just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? i hope so. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief
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when you put these strangers together in a house. when people stop being polite and start getting real. >> do you sell drugs? why do you have a beeper? >> you hadn't seen anything like that on television, that kind of open, honest discussion of race. >> i can try as much as i can to try to deal with you, but ignorance is ignorance. stupidity is stupidity. and that's it. black white, green, purple, blue, whatever. >> "the real world" becomes this big bang moment for reality tv. the idea is that, oh my god, all we have to do is take cameras and put them on people and we'll get great stuff. you had in the next season in l.a. a young woman who gets an abortion, and the camera literally goes right up to the doctor's door. >> give me a hug. >> by the third season in san francisco you have a young man who is dealing with aids. >> i'm hiv positive. >> when he told me he was hiv positive, it was just like -- no, not him. i like this guy and i don't want him to have to suffer. >> it was such a triumph that pedro had the courage at his age to come out as someone with
aids. in my small gay community on campus, we all felt like, wow, he was our hero. >> he falls in love. and he and his partner, shawn, have a ceremony. you know, this is long before same-sex marriage was legal. the tv shows weren't doing this. movies weren't doing this. >> i have to believe that all the pain that i'm going through, that all the anger, all the frustration, that there's something bigger than that. >> aids has claimed a young man who made an enormous impact on a generation of young americans. pedro zamora died in miami today at the age of 22. >> i'm really glad i got to know pedro zamora. i'm grateful that his rich and fulfilling work is still remembered today. and i hope you enjoy and learn from pedro's life of compassion and fearlessness. >> you have to credit "the real world" with sort of helping the acceptance of the lgbt community. because there weren't many portrayals of guy people period on television at that point. >> her name is marla.
i'm seeing a woman. >> in the '90s, gay characters were always secondary or third. there was never a gay character that was the lead of a show. >> so you want to go look at apartments tomorrow? >> great idea! >> ellen degeneres, the comedian, was about to come out. as a lesbian. and she does it on "time" magazine. yep, i'm gay. but they decide that the character ellen plays on tv will also come out. >> it is just reprehensible that abc, now owned by disney of all companies, is going to feature ellen as coming out of the closet. it won't be long before god knows what, you know. bestiality, incest, who knows. >> we were getting bomb threats.
disney was really getting a lot of flack for even thinking about having a coming-out episode with ellen. >> i'm 35 years old. i'm so afraid to tell people. i mean, i just -- susan, i'm gay. >> ellen coming out was a huge moment for me personally because, you know, i was a closeted gay guy. gay child at that time. and it was the bravest thing i saw. >> that felt great. that felt so great. >> initial report suggests abc made a bundle on ellen's highly publicized outing on national tv last night. the broadcast was accompanied by coming-out parties all around the country, including one in birmingham, alabama, where the local abc station refused to broadcast the show. >> she did a great thing. she was brave.
>> i made the decision that i wasn't going to live my life as a lie anymore. i was -- i belong with everybody else. and that's what i finally did. >> we used to say ellen opened the door and we knocked it down. ♪ i love my mister ♪ tell me lazy tell me so ♪ tell me i'm crazy maybe i know ♪ ♪ can't help loving that man of mine ♪ >> take it, jack! >> and pas de bouree, pas de bouree, i'm gay! >> "will & grace" was a great show in sort of helping a mainstream straight community connect to the gay community. >> i think i can fix this thing with your landlord but might get a little ugly. >> play hardball, baby. throw low and inside. he's crowding the plate and we've got to -- >> grace, sports, you're losing me.
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wave of what we now have, remarkably specific niche programming. ♪ >> "freaks and geeks" really sympathized with the losers and had great empathy for its characters. ♪ because you don't see that i got something going right here ♪ >> "freaks and geeks" breaks my heart every time i think about it. >> i'm sorry. did i crush your twinkies? >> it lasted 18 episodes. and they're perfect 18 episodes but nbc hated it so much. >> roll down the windows because i got a big one a-brewing. >> they thought it was a show by losers, about losers, for losers. they hated it. they wanted no part of it. they killed it. >> at the end of the '90s, the jig is starting to be up for the
networks. basically, quality migrates to cable. >> "oz" comes on in '97. and it's set in this fictional penitentiary. wow. what a strange show that was. >> in "oz," sometimes the things you can't touch are more real than the things you can. for instance, fear, hatred, fear, loneliness are more real to me than a shank and a soul. >> it was jaw-droppingly violent. it was a men's prison. it probably should be. but, you know, it kind of announces the idea that hbo is going to get serious about doing scripted dramas. >> it's finished. it's over. >> but hbo really in my mind comes to its own in 1999 with "the sopranos."
♪ woke up this morning ♪ got yourself a gun >> "sopranos" just is one of those shows that was a benchmark change. it changed a lot of things for everybody. >> throw out the handbook. tony soprano, the lead actor in a drama, he killed a man. we watched him. he took his daughter on a college tour. >> pretty, huh? >> yeah. >> it was just a melding of a guy and a world -- >> what the [ bleep ] you doing? what the [ bleep ] you doing? >> and a behavior that promoted all the feelings that you would have for a guy that you love in a guy that you hate. you know? >> "sopranos" came on tv and it really showed us the future, whether we realized that was going to be the future of television or not. >> this husband of yours, carmella, how much we love him.
he's the best. >> oh, come on. he's like a father to me. >> just make sure nothing happens to him. >> that character in that show was a great inspiration to a great many shows that came after it including one that i worked on. >> you know what i want, tony? i want those kids to have a father. >> they got one, this one, me. tony soprano. and all that comes with it. >> oh, you prick. >> the '90s is a mixed decade of tv. some of my favorite shows of all time aired in that decade and everybody was watching them. there was still that communal sense from the earlier decades of tv but it was being applied to shows that were reaching higher and farther, and they were great. >> because there was so many channels and because so much storytelling was going on, you started to get more variety of stories being told. >> get the skull film, schedule a c.a.t. scan, and call the neurosurgery resident. >> objection! >> television showed us women in
their depth and began to show us much more of a range of the african-american community. >> i'm always here for you. >> started focusing on teenagers in a more realistic way. >> things changed us. and evolved. >> what are you talking about? >> had you thinking a little more outside the box in terms of what people might want to watch. >> you're out of order, he's out of order. this whole trial is sexy. >> after ten years of the '90s, we had a whole new television world that could take us anyplace we wanted and even places we had never imagined. >> was that the oven timer? >> that's right, my friend. it's time for "baywatch"! >> can you believe they gave stephanie skin cancer? >> i still can't believe they promoted her to lieutenant. >> you're just saying that because you're in love with yasmine bleeth. >> how could anyone not be in love with yasmine bleeth?
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assaults. they have no courage. they have no guts. they just have big loud mouths and we don't want to put up with that. and i just want you to know that you are loved. you are loved and you are respected. steve: loved and respected and you are heroes, he said. it's been very clear that the president has he will vatted the issue of immigration once again to the forefront as we march toward the mid terms and there is one of the border patrol agents he honored asked him to come up and say a few words and he did. in june a senior trump administration official said the democrats were on a political figure out where you align. ainsley: agents feel so loved and supported some people said abolish ice.
when i see police officers on the street and i'm with my daughter i go up to them because i want her to see me thanking them. thank you for your service i'm praying for you and your families. they put on those uniforms every day. they go out and harm's way to keep our country safe and they are just following the law. brian: important to see what an ice agent looks like. many don't. seeing them in uniform very similar to police officers. three, lonely job, sit at the border. do great things. have some challenging things and no one is around. maybe they might see you in surveillance. you sit there usually in an area that's not a very big town and do you your job and you wonder if you are appreciated and for the first time maybe there is somebody in the white house who is making it abun dancely clear they are appreciated. 8 minutes after the top of the hour. tell me who has said this before. my job as a comedian is to spread positivity to make people laugh. i don't want to draw attention to what piss people off. who has said that? ainsley: kevin hart.
brian: one of the most successful comedians in the country conglomerate in his own right went and broke all his rules last night. steve: last night the 33rd annual video music awards were produced from across the street where we are sitting and not surprisingly they got political. watch. >> you never know what's going to happen at the vma, i mean bad language, people running to the bathroom and as i understand out crazy tweets and basically like the typical day at the white house. game day, people, do not worry because at this game you guys are allowed to kneel. can you do whatever the hell you want. no old white man that can stop you. ♪ ♪ steve: that is one the big
numbers, rapper logic wearing the shirt f the wall. what you see right there is the reuniting of families that were separated, children separated from their immigrant parents by a wall inside radio city music hall. ainsley: their t-shirts say we are all human beings. steve: what's interesting about the vmas i was reading in one of the trade publications in the last three years they have lost 50% of their audience and last year's viewership was worse year on word. you have to won determine do people get sick of the politics or because people have a lot of other stuff to do? ainsley: we don't want to hear the politics or we are old and don't listen anymore. brian: how many people watching music videos anymore, period? mtv doesn't even roll music videos anymore. vh 1 i can't find it on my dial. steve: they listen to a lot of songs on their devices which is good.
by the way one star honored last night was jlo. she -- we're going to show you a little of her performance later on. she wouldn't michael jackson van guardrail award and she hold up with a-rod. >> she talked about working hard and how she got where she is by working hard. if you work hard, you can become fame must and date a rod, too. steve: what's more important, being famous, working hard or dating a-rod? ainsley: she is so cute. brian: first actress make over $1 million in a role as a leading actress. i think she is a good actress. ainsley: i do too. steve: anyway, let us know what you think of the vmas last night across the street. brian: or go online and watch highlights. ainsley: we just showed
them. steve: all you need to see boiled them down to the important parts like the newscast. ainsley: they are always so political. i hate that. just sing. hand it over to jillian. jillian: my take away is if you work halder, kids, you, too, can date a-rod. get you caught up on the news fox news alert. a taliban firing rockets kabul, afghanistan overnight. listen carefully as explosions are heard fangtly during the president's speech. [explosion] first rocket landing not far from the presidential palace the second near the u.s. embassy. nobody was hurt. this comes one day after the president announced a cease-fire with the terror group. microsoft stopped russian hackers looking to steal data from conservatives during the mid terms. made them think they were going to political web sites
but going to fake version of the public policy. the websites are now disabled. microsoft says there are no signs that the hackers were successful. remember the athletic nun who throws nun thing but heat? get it sister joe impressing baseball lovers around the world really impressive first pitch at chicago white sox game she'll be here live and join us on the plaza later this morning to show off her arm again this time with the dunk tank. so who do you think should be dunked? email us and cast your vote. i thought i was doing it yesterday. somebody let me know so i can prepare. steve: we are all prepared it. could be one of us. ainsley: asking viewers to write in and say who they want on the dunk tank. brian: wet suit size control room question? steve: democrats don't like president trump's immigration plan. it was just fine when it wasn't his. >> we all agree that we must
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aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people to enter the u.s. legally. steve: there you have to have a couple of lawmakers who used to oppose illegal immigration for national security. it comes down to one thing politics. joining us is wimtion columnist jenny beth martin joins us from san diego. good morning to you. >> good morning. thanks for having me. steve: i'm confused. chuck schumer and nancy pelosi just sounded like the president trump right there. >> right. exactly. in 2006, that's only 12 years ago, some 26 democrats in the senate voted for the secure fence act. including barack obama, joe biden, hillary clinton and chuck schumer. today they done a 180 and they oppose a wall. steve: why is that? >> it all boils down to politics. the democrats are doing whatever they can to appeal
to their base. and right now what their base wants more than anything else is to resist president trump. in fact, we know this is accurate. all we have to do a few months ago president trump offered the democrats a deal they wanted on dak but with three times as many illegal immigrants getting benefits than what democrats were asking for. claiming to be because he wanted a wall. i think even if he hadn't asked for anything in return they still would have said no because they have to resist president trump deceive steve their message was confused jenny beth, we will do anything to make sure that the dreamers stay in this country. the president expanded the pool to 1.8 million no, you know what? we want what we want but we don't want him to get what he wants. >> right. exactly. and i think that they would want -- they want what they want and even if he didn't get what he wanted in
return, they still don't -- they dent want -- they don't even want what they want. they claim to but they don't really. it's all just politics for them. they don't care about these people coming across the border who they claim to care about. if they did, they would be looking for solutions. they are exactly what president trump said yesterday the salute to heroes event. he said that the people who are demanding the abolition of ice, demanding for ice to be accomplished they have no courage. they have no guts. they just have really big mouths. and that's exac exactly right really big mouths. steve: ultimately what they want is control of the house. they think this is an issue that will deliver that for them. tea party patriots co-founder jenny beth, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. steve: read her column at friends@foxnews.com. republicans need to win in november to keep our border secure.
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when did brian move back in? brian's back? he doesn't get my room. he's only going to be here for like a week. like a month, tops. oh boy. wi-fi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's. brian: quick headlines now. hillary clinton coming out of the woods, kind of. the former democratic presidential candidate pictured there reportedly headline three dnc fundraisers this fall. can't wait for the speech scheduled for san francisco, chicago and new york. homeless along the way. her daughter chelsea clinton is not ruling out a run for office at a book festival in scotland, the former first daughter saying, quote: for me it's a definite no now
not now. definite maybe in the future because who knows what the future is going to bring. ainsley, i'm going to look for that tea. >> it's a definite know now i think is what she meant. president trump looking to curve the blue wave worried about the repercussions at the democratic majority. >> the fact is people respect law and order and they love our law enforcement and i think we're going to have much more of a red wave than what you are going to sees a a phony blue wave. blue wave means crime. it means open borders. ainsley: here to debate is rnc spokeswoman kayleigh mcenany and jessica tarlov. >> agree with the president entirely a vote for the democratic party in the mid terms is a vote for open borders. it's a vote for the abolition of ice.
look at the house vote in support of ice 90% of democrats voted against the resolution or voted president which is in effect no vote. they want to abolish ice. ocasio-cortez was campaigning against occupy ice l.a. called ice the guess at thagestapo the ethnic g machine. this is law enforcement, hard working men and women. a vote for democrats is a vote for crime. ainsley: jessica? >> no. no to all of it. what kayleigh just said. ainsley: why? >> a democrat for democrats is a vote for agenda that helps the middle class and lower classes and gets people back on their feet. a vote for democrats is a vote for equality. affordable healthcare. vote for democrats is not a vote for blishing ice. there are only a few candidates across it country hundreds of candidates running interested in abolishing ice. only 42 democrat socialist on the ballot. i know that alexandria ocasio-cortez is really fun to go after. listen, i have even done it
a few times myself. she is not representative of our agenda. she is fringe and her beliefs are i know it's a great media narrative. if you want to look at the kind of campaigns we are running, look at conor lamb and danny o'connor. >> is kirsten gillibrand fringe is elizabeth warren? they both want to abolish ice? are they fringe or not? >> alexandria ocasio-cortez is. care citizen gillibrand is not. that is certainly left-leaning position that she would not have taken years ago and a lot of people have been critical of her about. what she is doing right now and what she has been doing for the past few months are not things that the core of the party are necessarily thrilled with. ainsley: kayleigh, what are your predictions for november. >> red wave. we announced we are $100 million at the rnc ahead of the dnc in fundraising. 3 million voter contacts this president under this leadership the economy is
soaring. 4.1% g.d.p. something president obama could never dream of. >> he did four times. >> this president is winning. because of that he will be awarded in november. it will be close. history is against us but i think we will ultimately prevail. ainsley: jessica the real clear politics has democrats at 7 point advantage over republicans for november there are a lot of people out there that don't want to admit that they support this president because they are scared of being labeled a racist or what have you. we saw that in the last election and then he won. what are your predictions for november. >> my predictions are that nate silver is about right there is 75% chance the dems takwin the house. talk of waves is dangerous. we need to pick up 23 seats here. the political report is out with some really interesting analysis that says we could fall a few seats short or
get 40 plus seats. thick part of the distribution is leaning towards picking up the 23 plus. we have got to mobilize. enthusiasm is up. kayleigh is right about fundraising haul and congratulations to you but the dnc and democrat senatorial committee is outpacing the republican side there we have got to get to the polls. ainsley: what do you think about the joe manchins running in november? they are representing a red state and they are democrats and their constituents love this president. >> they are engaging in fancy political foot work now they are out with ads, jon tester out with an ad i supported the president. joe march be the same. they are cozying up to the president. make no mistake they have not been trump allies. their record proves it they are not there on the tax cuts. they were not there on infrastructure. they were not there on immigration. they are not trump allies and get red of scaled red state democrats. ainsley: thank you so much for joining us. next on the rundown pete
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united states of america. the marines are looking for a few good dancers. brian: they have. ainsley: that is so good. steve: hats off to them. ainsley: i could watch this all day. brian: talk about great dancers look who is here. ainsley: reputation a great writer number one on the "new york times" best seller list russian hoax pick it up. >> it is doing well. ainsley: the russia hoax. no n on the end. steve: big news yesterday is the president's attorney, white house counsel don mcgahn sat down with special counsel robert mueller's team for 30 hours. you worry that if whatever don mcgahn told the special counsel people, if the president were to sit down with them and his story is different than his counselor's story, he could get in trouble. >> and mueller would be disposed to believe the other person and not the president.
mueller has demonstrated time and again he cannot be trusted to be fair and impartial. so, look what he did to mike flynn. mike flynn told the truth and mueller prosecuted him for lying. so the president run as very real risk that if he sits down with mueller, that mueller will twist the facts and contort the law. steve: that's not what lawyer told me. >> and accuse him of lying. and especially now that we know mcgahn has testified for over 30 hours before the special counsel. ainsley: his gin counsel has already testified for 30 30 hours. is it even needed for the president to sit down with him. isn't his attorney the voice for the president. >> i would argue inferior officer which is what mueller is, dolls not have a legal basis to even question the president exercising his constitutional authority opposed where is it written that can you question the president about a noncrime called collusion? and it's no other relevant crimes. it's not conspiracy to defraud the government.
it's not a federal campaign election act violation. brian: couple of things. they said the two topics that they can confirm that was discussed with mac gahanna 30 hours two logical ones. why does the president want jech e. jeff sessions take back control and james comey what was the mind set of the president before they fired him? those around two shocking topics but it does look is he pursuing obstruction, right? >> yes, i think he has given up. no evidence of collusion to begin with the fbi violated their own regulations. brian: we don't know what mueller has, correct? >> no. nobody could know that. the fbi has been investigating the case for a year. then the special counsel for another year. congress has done elm miewcial investigations viewing more than 200 people about. half a million documents. if there was some evidence of collusion, i think we would know it at this point. steve: no i had clg. brian: help or hurt? let's take a look.
here is the tweet. if i say something and comey sells something and my word against his from an interview. he is best friend with mueller's. so mueller might say well, i believe comey. even if i'm telling the truth that makes me a liar. that's no good. steve: that's the rudy giuliani thing. >> yes. i write about this extensive delay in the book about mueller's conflict of interest. is he long time friends, partners with james comey. how is it fair to the president? who is mueller disposed to believe? his friend who was fired by trump or trump? it's an obvious answer. that's just one of the three different disqualifying conflicts of interest that mueller has been ignoring with immunity. sorry, go ahead, steve. steve: i was going to say mueller does have somebody he is trying right now paul manafort completely unrelated to the russia charge they figured out maybe he committed bank fraud or tax fraud. yesterday, interestingly, at the end of the day, the jury said hey, judge, can we deliberate for another 15
minutes and people thought they only need 15 more minutes? what does that mean? >> nobody can quite figure that one out. i will say this. jury sent a question to the judge asking him to define reasonable doubt, that's music to the ears of defense attorneys because, in this particular case, they mt.ed a recalled defense. they didn't put on a case in ernest. they tried through cross-examination to create reasonable doubt. they behalf have suck received to some extent. ainsley: what is the definition of that? >> there recall is no legal standard. we leave it to the discretion and determination entirely of the jury. it's up to them. it's not likely he committed a crime or probably or maybe. it's got to be beyond a reasonable doubt. that doubt has to be reasonable. brian: 18 counts, right? could they be debating? could you be guilty on nine counts and not guilty on three counts. >> sure.
absolutely. brian: because of the 18 counts we are looking at three days and is this a virtual win for the defense wherto get to this point? >> it's not a win until the jury comes in with their decision. i never thought it was going to be a quick decision. brian: you didn't? >> no. because you have got 18 different charges. and they are very complicated. tax and bank fraud. these are not easy things to determine. and, you negotiation the defense tried to say that the star witness is a liar, a thieve, a con man and embezzler rick gates. brian: true, true, true. who get to walk out of the courthouse basically scot-free. that doesn't sit well with jurors. steve: even if paul manafort is found not guilty he has another trial coming up. >> that's right. steve: prosecution halls said we really have the good on him for that. brian: steve, if he could get a pardon in between after this trial.
>> you are pardoned for your dribbling. >> i will give you my tie. taking it off right here. give you my pink tie. ainsley: greg pointed out right before we were in the last commercial break. he said brian, did you know have you coffee dripping all down your tie? ainsley: i said please bring it up. >> brian has been so upset for the last five minutes. steve: thank you very much. >> my pleasure, thanks. ainsley: brian went to get another tie. jillian: i have shout wipes i will offer him in a couple minutes. good morning to you. get you caught up on stories we are following starting with. this colorado man charged with killing his entire family now claims his pregnant wife murdered their little girls. according to affidavit chris watts killed his wildfire shannon in a fit of rage strangling baby on baby monitor. upset over his having
affair. it was unclear if she knew about his affair with a co-worker. incredible statue at the university of carolina on first day of class. >> oh my god. [cheers] ainsley: fictional silent sam has been the target of vandals and protesters for decades. the school spent nearly $400,000 on security last year. at least one person was arrested. animal crackers are breaking free. nabisco is changing the paneling of barnum's animal crackers under pressure from the animal activism group pete after 116 years the animals will no longer appear to be inside circus cages. instead the animals will be roaming free in the grass and trees. new boxes on are store shelves now. i think the animals look very happy out there. steve: that's free range
cookies. jillian: i see what you did there i will get that shout wipe. steve: thank you very much. go tout to the streets of new york city. january niljanice dean the weatr machine joins us. janice: this is a taste of what's to come fall like weather. 68 in new york city. the humidity is almost nonexistent. it's beautiful and fantastic for our hair. look at the maps and show you a hurricane my friends. this is a major hurricane a doosie that could effect of the hawaiian islands later this week into the weekend perhaps as a hurricane. see tropical storm advisories being posted today. 150 miles per hour pe that would make it a category 4. dangerous system. there are your temps today beautiful, beautiful start to our morning across the northeast. we have strong to severe storms move across portions of the interior northeast and in to coastal northeast locations as well tomorrow. so we will keep an eye on that.
meanwhile, certainly if you live in the hawaii area, we are keeping an eye on hurricane lane back inside. steve: indeed. all right. janice, thank you very much. meanwhile, jillian brought brian out a shout wipe. is he trying to shout that out. brian: i am. ainsley: i'm not sure that's going to work. try to find greg. brian: chris i have to interview chris hogan next. ainsley: if you bring in a tie for. brian: he doesn't have cable in his office. steve: he said he was escaping persecution refugee. really he is an isis killer. how could that happen? calls for answers are intensifying. ainsley: while you shout it out in silence we can tell you this jason chaffetz, david bossie and ben shapiro all join us live. dave ramsey has a reality
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♪ brian: 14 minutes before the top of the hour. millennials are certainly optimistic did about the state of the economy. new survey revealing that 53% of millennials expect to be millionaires one day but do they have what it takes and do they know the path to financial independence? let's ask personal finance expert with ramsey solutions and author of everyday millionaires chris hogan great to see you. >> thank you. brian: i'm excited about your book coming out in january. >> i'm very excited. brian: first, things millennials are do now young to set themselves up for. >> grow your knowledge. understand how this money stuff works. we don't come here aware of it. we have to learn. if if your patients don't teach you have to find that knowledge on your own so i don't get caught up in the same traps. brian: how did you learn.
>> i signed up for credit card on campus and signed up for $7,500 of stupid. i want to help other people to prevent that problem. brian: grow your knowledge. do something millennials do. listen to podcast and shows about money, rather than shows about things that might be your hobby, right? >> if we get smarter, what we can do is prevent from making the same mistakes. we can make steps and take steps in the right direction to help us grow our money. brian: real simple find out what your expenses and find out what your income is and try to balance tout. >> you need to know your numbers. tell people to be a ceo. chief everything officer over your financial situation and money boss. tell money where to go instead of wondering where it went. brian: people say my life is dramatically underfinanced if that is indeed the case cut something back, live with somebody, move out further away from work where things might be cheaper. >> dial back the expenses take control it will pay off later. brian: what if you don't
have much money, what do you mean investing? i'm barely paying the bills. >> inflation hovering around 3.5 to 4%. if we are not growing our money it's shrinking. use 401(k) and b's. brian: you have a new book coming out everyday millionaires. ordinary people built extraordinary wealth and how can you, too. what did you study for this book? i know you know money. you wanted to do something different. >> we did. we went out into white space. what is the typical millionaire look like? what are they doing? what are their hands? we plugged in, dialed, in researched, got their stories and stats that are going to blow your mind on what they're doing, how they did it and how they grew their wealth. i'm excited about the stories as well as the content i'm going to be giving to people on january 7th. brian: when you study other millionaires what are your take aways when you were doing this book i didn't know that. >> the myth.
i thought in order to build wealth you have to come from money. another one was i thought you had to have a high income. the relate is very few had a 6 figure income. what it is showing us is that every day people have the opportunity. they just need the right kind of skill set and right kind of guidance. brian: that's a message that goes against what many millennials are for socialism. you are not for. >> no. i'm for people helping people but we have to help ourselves first. brian: chris hogan thank you so much. i appreciate it you made me feel cool without a tie. when i come back i get gregg jarrett's tie i understand according to reports. police officers verbally harassed on the street it turns out they have to just take it it's the new policy. will we ever be able to end the war on cops? our panel discussion next. new conservative women's magazine is looking to reclaim feminism from liberals. meet the college stupidity behind it that story next. ♪ ♪ you wouldn't accept an incomplete job
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complement. women are not supposed to be men and vice versa. it's a matter of biology and not a social construct. ainsley: i like chivalry, too. it's always nice when a man opens the door to me. i'm not complaining. i talk to democrats who say the biggest problem for president trump going in to 2020 will be young women, young moms. do you agree with that? >> i totally agree but i think we have to be willing to listen to the arguments. do your research. listen to a few different news outlets. don't just blindly follow just because the lady he in starbucks next to you is talking crap about the president, you don't need to do it. you are a strong woman. you have a mind of your own. you can be a free-thinker and you don't need to blindly follow this mob. it's time for girls to start doing their research. ainsley: all right. can you do your research by reading your magazine. laci williams congratulations. if you are interested in subscribing to your magazine go to
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with the private sector that involve my security clearance, zero. steve: perfect weather to get dunked in that dunk tank. who is going to be throwing the ball? remember over the weekend that nun, mary jo big game white sox versus royals and look at that heat she is throwing. she is here. brian: graduated in 1986. ainsley: she is here and going to throw the ball at the dunk tank. who is going to get in this tank? and is the water going to be warm? steve: 70 degrees we would like to have folks in tv land write in which of us should sit on the dunk tank. sister mary jo throw the ball. brian: first time in the early landfill 1970s when we started. i watched them fill up the dunk tank with a hose.
wait a second the hose water's is pretty cold. don't worry we warm it up for you. i believed that why i believed that i don't know. but it's good to be back in hose water which we used to drink out of in the 70's and we survived. no keurig at all. steve: who should be in the dunk tank for the sister? tweet us or facebook us. we read it all day long. ainsley: that's right. get to some news now. a fox news alert breaking overnight. a nazi camp prison guard living here in the united states. there is his picture. he has been here since 1949. finally deported to germany. steve: ice agents following orders from president trump arresting 95-year-old palij at his home a couple miles where from where we are sitting in queens, new york. brian: that's where we find rob schmitt why now and how he has been able to live here for so long. rob? >> what a story the trump administration customs enforcement working to
deport this nazi. he was a nazi guard in world war ii. he was still alive. 95 years old. is still alive and has been deported back to germany at this point this morning. is he no longer in this home behind me here you can see the one with the wood door. this is the home that he has lived in for 60, 70 years now at this point. he moved to queens after the war. he came here as a refugee. he lied about his status when he got here. his queens home has been the site of many protest. sings he was discovered here and had his citizenship stripped nearly 15 years ago. he was granted that citizenship back in 18957 after he lied on that application saying he worked in a factory during the war he was finally deported on monday. this man 95-year-old palij is not german. they are trying to send him back to germany. he was polish born. he was not a german citizen. trained at nazi death camp alleged to have worked at the death camp in 1943 in
eastern poland and worked there at a place where thousands of jews were killed during world war ii. the "new york times" interviewed palij back in 2003 about 15 years ago now. and in that interview, palij claimed that the nazis forced him, a young man, a polish young man at 18 years old to do their work for them under threat of killing his family. that's his side of the story. the "new york times" says palij came here and worked as a draftsman in the united states after the war. he lived here with his wife. they never had any kids. jewish protesters say palij was a willing, capable servant of the nazis and devoted until the very end of the war. so there are two stories here. ambassador to germany ric grenell was told to make palij a top priority by the trump administration and to get him out of the country and that has happened. he is back in germany and now the question remains will he face any charges? and 95-year-old manual that had been living here for 60, 70 years, a former world war ii nazi guard deported from
the country this week. it's a big story, guys. you look down here and see this is a big story here. not a new story. been protesting for 10, 15 years now. there have been active measures to get him out of the country. that's coming t come to fruitio. steve: the nazi next door. bring in jason chaffetz. former oversight reform committee. written a book called the deep state comes out in about a month or. so chairman, why did it take 25 years? we knew there was a nazi here in the united states living over in queens for 25 years. it took the federal government this long to get rid of him. >> well, i hope he never ever rests and i hope he rots in hell. this is one of the most atrocious things that's ever ever happened on the face of the planet. but it took the trump administration to finally have the political guts to do what they needed to do. and then ambassador grenell going over there and insisting that germany take
this person back. brian: ambassador bolton yesterday, national security advisor on sunday, john bolton came out and said there is like four different countries we are looking at trying to hack into our elections. the russians are at it again. it look like they are now targeting conservative groups. what's your take on that? >> look, from the moment i came into congress, in fact, before i was given a briefing, before i wept into congress, they told us that these nefarious actors, some of them state actors, some of them just a guy in the van down by the river will be doing these types of things. it's everything from the russians to the chinese, to you name it. this is happening. there are at love elements that want to disturb not just our voting systems our financial systems and government just your own home. this is always going to be a constants threat. ainsley: yesterday i saw it on sean hannity's show last night. i assume the interview was yesterday because he brought it to light last night. unbelievable debate on cnn.
phil mud who used to be a cia agent and fbi agent and now works for cnn. he was criticizing the president for pulling brennan's security clearance. i'm being told the debate was last week. he goes up against paris denard. he says the president is right no. one is trying to silence brennan. he just doesn't have a security clearance because they can go out and have a lot of money if they serve on boards and whatnot if you have a security clearance. phil mud said i never made a dime. phil mud got so mad and the president tweeted let's watch the interview and tell you about the president's tweet. >> when i am requested to sit on an advisory board, let me ask you one question. how much do you think i'm paid to do that at the request of the u.s. government? give me one answer and you have got 10 seconds. >> how much are you paid for your consulting. >> answer the question! >> when i have. >> i have zero relationships with the private sector that involve my security clearance, zero sphrunchts a security clearance and teach it you get more money to have it.
>> we're done. we're done. get out. >> it's not your show. [bleep] >> this is about. >> get out. ainsley: he was a guest on the show he told the other guest to get out. this is not your show. the president tweeted out phil mud became totally unglued and weird that denard destroyed him. mud is in no mental condition to have his clearance he asked to remove his security clearance. >> really what should happen is by default they shouldn't have a security clearance. and it costs. what i have been told it costs every three or four years after you leave the government if you have to have it renewed it costs something like $15,000. why should the american taxpayers have to pay that amount of money? and it's just not one or two people. there are lots of people that have to go through this process. brian: this is it, jason. when people see you are the former chairman of oversight they think you have insight. see the former fbi guy go off like that think he has access to things. when he loses his temper constantly. any time he is on he is screaming all types of
horrible things about the president. so this is not a one off thing with this guy. we should reevaluate the entire system. don't you think? >> absolutely. the president has unilateral authority to do this. it's a joke to think that brennan was going to sue them. and really what the president should do with the paul ryan and mitch mcconnell they should do what patrick moynahan the senator from new york did 27 years ago, review the whole process in a bipartisan way. appoint a commission and fund and it come up with a bipartisan solution. steve: that conversation going. let's see what's happening. jason, thank you very much. >> thank you. steve: steve stick around. jillian joins us from inside with the headlines. jillian: good morning. we now know an american service member was killed in the military helicopter crash in iraq. that person's identity though still unknown. the pentagon says the chopper went down following a raid against an isis target. but it was not taken out by enemy fire. three other coalition troops needed medical treatment. their conditions and nationalities have not been released. iowa senator chuck grassley
is demanding answers after a suspected isis cop killer is granted refugee status in the u.s. the chairman of the senate judiciary committee sending a letter to the department of homeland security and state department asking for omar's immigration history, visa documents and his travel records. he told immigration officials he was a victim of terrorism in iraq and settled with his family in sacramento, california. do you have a relationship with your brother or sister? similar to this? >> i still hate you. >> turns out sibling rivally is good for kids. new study finds when children work out their problems with one another on their own it boosts emotional development and enhances social skills. the university of cambridge, center for family research, studied kids between 2 and 6 years old. so, maybe let's see if that
works for jason chaffetz and his brother. steve: that's right, jillian because they join us live jason and alex. sibling rivally alive today when he came on you could see which has the better lighting? which chair? >> sibling rivalry, it's early. if that's true come off the chart. we would sit in the backseat and slam each other's thighs. brian: how much rivalry and friendship. >> three year age difference and i was better at everything we did growing up. >> who do you think is older? >> alex is. >> that's right. >> jason is bigger than me but i'm younger. >> he tells me that because i look fatter. >> i love alex because he went to the university of kansas. >> fellow jayhawk. >> what do you do. >> live in western colorado. live with a group of great
medical doctors doing manipulate basemembership based. brian: good for the country. step on that later. growing up root for each other or root for me first. >> always proud of my brother. he has done great things. he was a place kickner college. i wanted to be like him. he at a time me how to kick. we went to the same high school i own all the kicking records. >> let's move on. keep going. steve: i will tell you what, for the folks watching right now. put the sibling rivalry which of the two brothers should be in the dunk tank? >> it's not exactly hot outside: don't try to slide out of dunk machine. >> jason go in the dunk tank. ainsley: did you see the nun video. >> she is good. bouncing that ball off her bicep and she threw that ball over the plate. >> sign jason up.
brian: al do you have a change of clothes. >> i'm okay staying dry today. you obviously have a change clothes that's good. brian: i have an extra tie thanks to gregg jarrett. steve: go online, folks. which of the brothers should we put in the dunk tank? jason or alex? brian: or one of us. great to see you, alex. >> nic nice to meet you. i like you so much better than jason already. let me tell what you is coming up straight ahead. bill de blasio unveiling a brand new slogan. with you, wait, haven't we seen this one before? steve: politics take center stage at the video music awards across the street from where we are sitting right now. brian: what's he wearing? >> for this game you are allowed to kneel. can you do whatever you want. no old white man can stop you. in your face, trump.
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basically like a typical day at the white house. in your face, trump. i'm looking at this like it's game day, people. don't worry at this game you guys are allowed to kneel and do whatever you want. no old white man that can stop you. ♪ courage to the. do what i love and support my girl ♪ and maybe one day i will be ♪ brian: vmas took place just over my left shoulder here in new york city yesterday. they couldn't really be more detached from what a lot of people right here in radio city. a lot of people feel. and very different for kevin hart. arguably the most successful comedian in the country. he is a producer, he does sitcoms. is he a great writer. steve: doesn't like the president. brian: he never brings it up. he says in the past when you jump in the political realm
you are alienating some of your honor audience. i don't want to draw attention to things that bring people to places that they don't have nice things to say about. as a comedian i want to bring positivity and then last night happens. steve: do you know what though? it was right there the red lights radio city music hall. we know when there is an awards show and a lot of celebrities, they are going to bash a republican president. we -- that has gotten on for a very long time. did you notice the symbolism that last rapper, rapper logic had a t-shirt that said f the wall and then you could see a wall being drawn up and immigrant families that had been separated were able to unite. ainsley: got really political last night. we have been asking you. we asked you the first hour what you thought about this. a lot have sent in your emails. these artists think the world revolves around them. their opinions mean nothing to me. i will never watch these awards. steve: email. kevin, it was fun watching
your comedy. another check on the growing list of actors i won't enjoy anymore. brian: my family is sick of the vmas being political. we haven't watched the last two years. that's basically -- you just thought stuff like that would happen. if i'm the producer of that show. i just go up to my people and say listen i know how you feel in politics. people are here for music. i want to make sure i maximize my audience. i don't want something for the democrats or republicans. i want everyone to watch a political-free zone for a pure money standpoint. steve: think about this, brian, vmas have lost 50% of their audience in the last three years. if they just went out and did a little award show that nobody is going to be talking about the next morning, there is nothing viral. all that stuff we just showed is you going viral. people either you love kevin hart or you don't like kevin hart but people are talking about what he said. ainsley: get to the point they make so much money they don't need everyone to buy their albums anymore and
decide to go political they are alienating half their audience. half the people who used to like them. steve: what do you think? friends@foxnews.com. we are going to step aside. more it was live from the streets of new york. brian: should we privatize the afghanistan war. that story next.
when did brian move back in? brian's back? he doesn't get my room. he's only going to be here for like a week. like a month, tops. oh boy. wi-fi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's. brian: this october will mark 17 years since the beginning of the u.s. military operations in afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. a conflict that many experts say is still far from winnable. our next guest is urging the president to rethink his strategy and replace u.s. military personnel with a smaller group of civilian contractors and special forces operators in the civilian world. so could this shakeup finally turn a page in america's longest war? here to discuss is former navy seal and founder of blackwater u.s.a. erik prince.
welcome. good to see you. >> thanks, brian. brian: we talked about this a year and a half ago. the president sent in more troops. what's the results been. >> today marks the day that the president really took ownership of the war. today is the day he announced more money and more troops that the pentagon asked for. since then we have had more loss. more americans dead. tens of thousands more afghan dead and another $62 billion in spending and it's not working. he has put in more troops in there they have changed the rules of engagement. are you saying it's not as effective. >> not as effective. last week four simultaneous attacks. wind out 350 afghan security forces. severed the north south highway. what we're encouraging the president to do go back to what worked after 9/11. before the big conventional forces. a few cia officers backed by air power and disseminated the taliban in a matter of weeks. brian: they did not hold territory. they held a lot of territory no. sanctuary for the taliban.
not a privatization really a rationalization. 15,000 u.s. troops and 30,000 contractors by going back to a maul footprint that worked. you put mentors, basically special forces veterans go back as contractors and attach to each afghan unity. they live with fight with and train with air power shows up reliablely not the case now. brian brian our air power doesn't get called in reliably. >> last week multiple units annihilated waiting for air power for three or four days. not getting medevac and resupplied and getting bombs dropped on bad guys. brian: taliban controlled areas as well as government controlled areas it is shaded appropriately. looks as though if you look at some of the red areas. contested territory. afghan government territory is in the gray. and then you have taliban claimed territory in the orange. dolls this look like a standoff to you? >> it's worse than a
standoff. spending $62 billion. the taliban is spending a microfraction of that we are losing. remember the 9/11 attacks cost $500,000. we are spending 62 billion. the taliban is making at least 6 huskers million in illegal drugs and in illegal mining sales. so they have more than enough resources to perpetuate this to keep the sewer of terrorism going. brian: you have a lot of skeptics out there. john bolton is not one of them. is he open to it. listen. >> would you consider privatizing there? using contractors instead of u.s. military? there have been some reports about that this week. >> there are always a lot of discussions. i find them helpful. i'm always open to new ideas. brian: have you met with him? is he open? >> not yet. here's the thing. a year ago the national security advisor three star army general who wanted a fourth star. the idea of him doing anything unconventional was impossible. now more openness to it. job to provide the president with's os president should
appoint a special envoy. someone like a bankruptcy trustee. if you can't call $2 trillion in spending 17 years of losses to the taliban a bankruptcy situation, i don't know what is. if he appoints a special envoy, one person that the president can hold in charge, give them the title 50 authorities like when we went in after 9/11, it was the agency where the military supporting the cia that worked. brian: you believe you have the minute and women right now. they are members of nato. nato nations and americans. >> u.s. or nato, correct. brian: you have them on the roster? >> the plan would send u.s. special forces veterans and nato combat veterans back into afghanistan because we fix the continuity issue. right now, for the last 17 years, the u.s. has sent units, de ploy there for 8 months. they spend a couple months getting to note area. spend the last two months getting ready to go home and making sure everyone is safe. they lift that unit up. send it back. send a new one in and repeat. we have done that 30 times
now. there is no continuity. going to a mentor contract model, i can put that same guy in there for years at a time. in the same valley with the same unit. they know the terrain and locals and build the confidence of the local units. brian: how much does it cost? >> 15% of what we are spending now. brian: i want you to hear what senator lindsey graham told me last night. the consequences of forces equal to president obama's ill advice of pulling american troops from iraq no matter how he spin it such a decision would be seen by the terrorists as america cutting and running and senile by allies as america abandoning the fight. your reaction eric prince. >> the military industrial complex is real. very unhealthy loop of massive spending on the pentagon into wasteful wars, recycled back into political campaign sass problem on both right and left. the president rightly campaigned on end endless wars. this is america's longest war. first time we have had the kids of soldiers now fighting. kids toddlers when the towers fell here in new
york. now fighting and dying there. brian: how long would it take to you win? >> winning looks like a long-term presence in a descending scale. it's a year and a half to two years of continued structural support. if you turn -- look, afghanistan halls significant natural resources. the taliban is making money from it none of the legitimate minors are. turn on those areas turn the economy. developing the economy the oil and gas and resources there. afghanistan is sitting on huge amounts of rarest elements needed for the american manufacturing industry, especially in high tech sectors. brian: they would have some type of economic. >> you have to set security long enough to do that. brian: a year ago you pitched it. they didn't take it see if the president takes your offer now. erik prince, thanks so much. >> you bet. brian: more on the breaking news out of new york city. get. this a nazi guard living in america since the late 1940s deported by the trump administration. the details coming
overnight. the video is disturbing. police officers verbally harassed on the street. it turns out they have to just sit there and take it. will we ever be able to end the war on cops? a panel here to discuss it next.
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special thanks to gregg jarrett i'm now wearing his tie in exchange for his tie i have to give one plug for his book buy the russia hoax. jillian shouted out my tie and i don't know if you can even see at home, but it is actually -- this is a commercial for shout. jillian: i don't even get paid by shout. scans a. ainsley: if you are just joining us. brian spilled coffee on his tie. gregg pointed it out. jillian gave him shout wipe. send us email tell us which chaffetz brother do you want dunked? jason or his brother alex? steve: america pick. brian: caught up the whole show. jillian: i'm expert in coffee stain removal because i spill on myself a lot. ainsley: you could also go in the dunk tank i hear. jillian: yes. i agreed to already. i will. i have no problem. steve: here is the news.
jillian: man tried assassinating ronald reagan full psych tests. john hinckley jr. supervised release from a hospital. the 63-year-old is now asking for unconditional release. hinckley was found not guilty by reason of insanity after the 1981 shooting of reagan and two others. press secretary james brady died decades later from his injuries. and how about this alligator attacks and kill as woman as she tries to save her dog. police say the 8-foot gator dragged her into a lagoon at hilton head island in south carolina. can you imagine? she was holding on to her pet's leash attempting to free it after it was attacked. the alligator is now dead. it comes just two months after a florida woman was dragged into a lake and killed by 12-foot alligator while walking her dogs. a husband and wife are department of education after their small plane plummets to the ground. take a look at dash cam video showing the jet falling out of control and
smashing into an intersection in phoenix. both people on board the plane killed in the crash. the homemade plane hit two cars when it crashed. no one on the ground was seriously hurt. new york city mayor bill de blasio may be stealing a page from the trump playbook. new slogan promises made, promises kept. does it sound familiar? if so because president trump uses the same slogan at his campaign rallies. trump yours it in ads like the one you are seeing on your screen. the g.o.p. uses it on the party's g.o.p. website to describe the mayor's accomplishments. the mayor says it's a common phrase and not copying the trump campaign. decide for yourself. let us know. steve: we have decided. thank you very much. last known nazi collaborator in the united states is deported back to germany. 95-year-old palij landing in germany earlier today. according to the department
of justice he served as an armed guard at a death camp in poll land and lied typically congratulation officials when he immigrated to the united states in 1949. palij came from poland became a u.s. anyone 1947. judge ordered his deportation after he tried to -- admitted to training at nazi death camp where thousands of jews were killed. it's unclear if the former nazi will face prosecution in germany. state association of police chiefs chief rich busby along with blue lives new york city founder new york police department sergeant joseph and former new york city police department officer dr. darian porcher. good morning to all of you guys? >> good morning. >> chief, start with you. thanks for joining us from south jersey today. what do you make of the fact that we had this guy we knew was a nazi guard killed
thousands of people. living in new york for decades. we tried to deport him and the federal system simply would not make it happen. >> it was an inexcusable failure. and as they say justice delayed is justice denied but not in this case. fortunately, somebody picked up the ball at some point and the proper actions were taken. there are families out there under which -- under this man, which suffered terribly anand they deserve their day in the sun and their opportunity at the court of justice i believe that's where they have gotten. steve: ric grenell instrumental in making this happen. is he going to join news 20 minutes. what do you make of this. >> i have been talking about this accountability. president trump has said not just in the united states around the nation if you do something be held to a higher standard. killing thousands upon
thousands of people no excuse. you should not be living in america you should go back to where this happened. and happy somebody is being held for their actions. steve: germany didn't want him back. >> bureaucratic nightmare and catastrophe to say the least. this was going on and on for i want to say 40 years he has been here. truth of the matter is this is something that moves forward trump's agenda in illegal immigration. this is someone who should not have been in this country to begin with and fortunately the proper steps are being taken to move this pinner off to germany. steve: talk a b. a problem we're noticing more and more. in new york city it's legal to smoke pot on the streets. you can urinate and legal to harass cops. there is a video that has gone online. watch this. it's a number of police officers who were berated for five minutes by a guy with a cell phone camera. listen. >> sir if you are going to keep yelling summons. >> for what?
disorderly conduct? i have free speech, are you crazy you? came up with me [bleep] excuse that i matched the description of somebody with a firearm. watch what i do to y'all [bleep]. y'all violated my [bleep] rights. you all should be arrested right now. steve: joe, this is the new policing in the united states. all about hands off. >> last three years in the nfl have you seen players kneel every single sunday and three years nothing has been done. people watch celebrities like the vmas because this celebrity is doing it we can get away with it. we need to go out there and correct this problem right away. steve: dr. porcher, it sounds like after this video went viral, the higher ups at the police department said that's embarrassing. we want to reiterate if somebody does something like that, can you arrest them. >> absolutely. one of the things i do i look at we go back to the giuliani administration. love him or hate him, he introduced something we refer to as zero tolerance policing. and it fell under the criminalist and focused on
low level offenses. if you target the low level offices these people who commit to the lower level offenses are not going to be as apt to commit the greater offenses. this is something that carried over from the 1990s to the ineld of the bloomberg term. unfortunately landfill the new mayor, i should say the current mayor, de blasio has leftist agenda and receding to where we were in the 1990s. steve: chief, back in the 18990s nobody had cell phones that could take video. seems like everybody has a phone out and put it in the fates of a cop. they want to catch him doing something so they can go viral. >> the problem is that the community itself end up paying the price. the disrespect. i was on the way in for a segment on sunday morning and i had my 20-year-old son with me. young man urinating on a store front. when that level of disrespect is allowed to exist. steve: in broad daylight. >> in broad daylight. and continues to proliferate. the community itself starts
to suffer. the reputation of the area. new york city is a wonderful business community. you can't -- you simply can't have it. if it's allowed to continue it will deteriorate the structure of a city that we have all come to love. steve: unfortunately i think mayor de blasio here in the is i is okay with most of that stuff. okay, joe? >> i don't totally agree whim. in the state in the precinct where the guy went into the command center i was actually happy. never too late tore change. these officers cannot be disrespected that way. that's what i said from the beginning we need it from the top. if we can keep doing that maybe we will make a change. steve: great discussion this tuesday morning. honoring the men and women who protect our border at the white house yesterday. >> i want to let you know that we love you, we support you. we will always have your back. steve: border patrol commissioner kevin will join us live. he was there yesterday.
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lenses being flushed down the toilet. but what we have seen time and time again is environmentalists weaponize this type of research to pass ridiculous regulations like what we just saw in california where can you actually face jail time for distributing straws. ainsley: i guess we all -- i know, we all want to take care of our environment but we want to focus on the right things. how big of a problem is this? >> in the grand scheme of things this is not a big problem. if you want to talk about rarge environmental problems. look at the waste that countries like china are releasing into our waters. the effects of contact contact s is minuscule. it's reasonable to ask americans to throw away their contact lenses in the trash instead of flushing them down the toilet. but in the grand scheme of things, passing more regulations will only be harmful to small businesses, it will be harmful to the economy and it's not going
to make a big difference environmentally. ainsley: how dangerous is this when big government steps in and they want to regulate everything? >> just look at what is happening in california with the plastic straw ban and what we actually see when companies like starbucks attempt to get rid of their straws. they replace them with materials what we call adult sippy cups which actually use more plastic than simply using plastic straws. so, i think we need to go about environmental regulations very carefully and look at what president trump is doing today when he is announcing steps to roll back and replace president obama's clean power plan. ainsley: thank you for joining us. >> you are welcome. ainsley: president trump honoring men and women who protect us at the border and he honored them at the white house. >> i want t to let you know we love you, we will support you. we will always have your back. ainsley: some of those
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ainsley: commissioner, you met with the president yesterday. what was that like at the white house. >> it is. have our agents honored for the work they do. narcotic seizures and rescues which agent thomas' efforts. steve: agent, how did that make you feel to see some of the rank and file people you work with being recognized by the president saying come on up here and tell us what you do. get in the publicity that they deserve? >> it's great to see, actually feel appreciated, that's a big thing for us. it's nice to see boots on the ground. brian: commissioner, how do you feel about this whole abolish ice movement that's out there. local law enforcement being told not to work with you? what does that do for you? what do you tell your men and women? >> right. what was highlighted yesterday was the breat breadthe mission. >> highlight the efforts that we undertake to protect children child exploitation
efforts. threats being removed from the country. ms-13 was a big focus yesterday. and what lawyer wraps team does 750 rescues in tucson sector last year alone. amazing job out there in the desert. ainsley: agent thomas tell us what you see on a daily basis. do you see at love criminals trying to get across? >> we do see our fair share when he is talking about 750 rescues those are rescue groups. there might be six to 10 to 15 people in that one rescue. so that's the big thing for us, our mainly focus is trying to safes people that are out there that shouldn't be. steve: how does he figure into the rescue. >> is he a search and rescue as well as the tracking and does cadaver worker. human remains detection work. what we have done with him he is advanced train to where if someone comes out and has left somebody behind, which happens quite often. steve: all the time. >> right. is he actually trained to follow that person back to where they left their friend. all of us are emts.
we also have paramedics. he helps us find them faster aiding in the ability to save these people. britain brian are they people looking for a better life or looking up to no good? >> it's a mixture, the smugglers often leave groups alone in the desert. they are actually 10 or 15 miles away. steve: extracted? >> absolutely. this time of year the heat can be 120 degrees. what lawyer wraps team has pioneered of she goes out on horseback with the dog on the back of the horse. ainsley: wow. tell us why it's important people watching, many democrats are saying abolish ice and your agency. why is it important? >> it's really important on my side because what i see and when we interview some of these people that we get later, what they are seeing is the people on the south side are telling them oh, yeah, it's just a day, you will be fine. you only need a gallon of water. that gallon of water is not
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ainsley: look at her arm. amazing. steve: also we have the chaffetz brothers, alan and jason, we are asking which should we put in the chair and right now too close to call. brian: jillian is getting a lot of votes to go into dunk tank, support in general. big online presence. steve: let us know who you would like to see in the chair. you can e-mail us or tweet us as well. 8:02 alert, a nazi guard living in the u.s. since 1949 has been deported to germany overnight. ainsley: ice agents following orders from president trump arresting him, 95 year's old, they arrested him at his house in queens, new york.
brian: we find rob schmitt, hey, rob. rob: there have been protests outside the house for more than 10 years, the house where the man lived close to 70 years he lived in the united states, 95 year's old, polish-born nazi guard came to u.s. in 1949 as war refugee, lied and said he worked in a factory during the war and he was granted citizenship in 1957, there have been so many protests here over the years, people trying to get him out of the country. he had citizenship stripped nearly 15 years ago but remained, he was finally deported on monday, there was a big delay because he was born in poland, he's not a german citizen and deported back to germany, that caused a lot of issues as well. admitted to training at nazi death camp, training ss soldiers alleged to have worked at death camp in 1943, that's in eastern poland, place where thousands of
jews were killed under the nazis in poland and "the new york times" interview back in 2003 and claimed that nazis forced him at 18 year's old to commit the atrocities and he says that they threatened to kill entire family, that's why he did it but a lot of people say otherwise and there has been protests here for a number of years trying to get this man out of the country. they finally came to fruition, they spoke with new york state assemblyman and credits the trump administration and happy man today after protests. steve: thank you very much, the point man on getting him out of the country is our ambassador to germany, rick joins us live from berlin. mr. ambassador, when the president sent you to germany, this is one of the things he said you've got to get your head around and make happen and you did, congratulations.
>> well, look, it's really a credit to president trump who was very clear about this case. i had not heard about it when the president brought it up and made clear that he wanted this individual out of the united states. this has been somebody who was deported in 2004 consecutive governments of the u.s., consecutive administrations of the u.s. have tried to remove him. it was a difficult task because this individual is not of german citizenry. he had his u.s. citizenship taken away so he technically was without country, he was stateless, those became complicated issues but president trump made it very clear, he wanted to work through all of the issues, figure out a way and the way that we presented to the german government was they had a moral obligation not necessarily a legal one with this individual but a moral obligation because he worked in the name of the
then government and so the moral obligation on part of the germans was received. yes, we recognize that, let's work to difficult issues, took us a little while but i have to give credit to the new foreign minister in germany and the new minister of interior, minister and also instrumental, both of the gentlemen we wanted to work with president trump and the administration to make it happen. brian: in the past, in 1993 they found out who he was. in 2003 stripped him of citizen, germany, poland and ukraine were asked to take him and they said no. in the past too, i understand israel had a lot of people helping to hunt down nazis for obvious reasons. did they play a role in uncovering identity? >> look, i think several countries helped us really
uncover the truth, this individual had lied to us. we had granted him u.s. citizenship, but when we found out the truth we took it away and that's when we asked for him to be deported. the courts agreed, he, again n2004 he was told that he had to get out of the country but it's taken us a very long time, we have worked with a lot of different partners to find the truth about this individual, he did not give us the truth, he lied for several years, so we are glad to see him put on a plane yesterday, he arrived in germany this morning and it's a great day for the united states to have this individual out of our country. >> yes, credit to you, mr. ambassador and to the president. this guy was a prison guard where on one single day november 3rd, 1943 approximately 6,000 jewish children, women and men were shot to death, unbelievable that it took this long, why did it take this long,
why didn't past administrations, why weren't they successful getting him out and what will happen to him now that he's in germany? >> look, i have to say the fact is that we have a president who really wants to fight for the american people and he wants to make sure that the rule of law is followed and so when you have a case like this where in 2004 this individual is told that he is no longer a u.s. citizen and must be deported and consecutive administrations ignored that, i think it really tears down the rule of law, takes somebody like the president to say, this is a decision, he is no longer united states citizen, we want him out and so we have to have diplomats and the entire trump administration, we have to have people that are willing to follow the rule of law and not look for, you know, the roar of the crowd, approval of the crowd but people who are going to take the rules and follow the rules
and we need people who will enforce the rules. we can all be nice about it and we certainly want to work with our partners wherever we can. at the end of the day, these are the rules and this is what our courts said. ainsley: what will happen to him in germany? >> ainsley, it's a really difficult question and one that has stumped previous administrations to try to figure out what should be done with him, what i ask and what the white house really was pushing with the germans is just to say, you have a moral obligation to take mr. polij back, we will not tell you what to do with your court system or legal system, we just felt like he was someone who had worked for the then german government, they had an obligation to take him back, they agreed with that moral argument and so now it's really -- in the hands of the germans to figure out what to do next. steve: unfortunately sounds like there's not enough evidence to
charge him with war crimes but interesting to see how they depots him, mr. ambassador, two things at the top of your list when you went to berlin from for president, have you talked to the president yet in reaction to what has happened? >> i have not talked to the president yet, we have been working very hard, i'm sure i will very soon but the fact is that the entire team at the white house, entire team at the state department, secretary pompeo has raised this issue, he has been aggressive about the issue, so we really had a team effort of everyone that's been focused on this and i think the team is just really relieved after, you know, 3, 4 months of constant work when we had an opening here. again, though, i just have to say that we have great partners in the new foreign minister in germany who really, he saw something different in this case and he we wanted to look at it differently and so we really appreciate that and minister, interior minister who worked through a lot of the paperwork
details. so we thank these partners very much. brian: lastly real quick, do people of germany care, have they been where i will go about this, curious or is this a sore point for them? >> no, look, these are difficult issues but they absolutely care and they see the moral argument and we hear amazing support here in germany. the media is very supportive. i would encourage people to go read the stories from the german media, this is a country that is facing the horrors of its histories and working through these issues as much as they can and this is one day that i think we join with them to say thank you very much for getting this individual out of the u.s. and into german soil. steve: well, thank you very much, ambassador for joining us. we just booked you in the last hour, thank you for coming onto talk breaking news. live from berlin. all right, 8:12 in new york
city. jillian: let's start with this, president trump hitting the road, he will hold a campaign rally in charleston, west virginia tonight. the visit also a show of support for republican patrick, charging republican joe manchin for senate seat this fall. microsoft stopped russian hackers looking to steal data from conservatives ahead of midterms, the cyber forced people to trick into going website. jason chaffetz says threats like this are very real. >> a lot of elements that want to disturb not just voting systems but our financial systems, government, your own home, so this is going to be a constant threat. jillian: microsoft says there are no sign that is the hackers were successful. protestors topple confederate statute at university of north carolina on first day of class.
[cheers and applause] jillian: fictional silence has been protest of statute for decades. at least one person arrested, unc has investigated vandalism and assessing the damage. that's a look at headlines. steve: jillian, thank you very much. one week from today bruce ohr will be grilled behind closed doors. david joins us next. ainsley: politics taking center stage at another award show, this time vma's. >> in this game you guys are allowed to kneel. you can do whatever the hell you want. no white man can stop you. in your face, trump. >> ben shapiro. brian: let's watch gentleman low
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brian: in just one week of today bruce ohr will be grilled by congress, but it will be behind closed doors, here to explain fox news contributor david bossie who will be with the president today as he goes to west virginia, david in op-ed, you. >> -- you were honed in bruce ohr, why? >> they have written two articles recently saying he's a mid-level player, he's nobody important, clearly, they're nervous about the narrative. bruce ohr is instrumental and wife nelly ohr are instrumental in the investigation and what we need to find out whether through closed-door testimony next week through congress or in an open hearing later, the american people deserve to know what bruce ohr was doing, who at dnc, clinton campaign, the obama
administration, did anyone in those three organizations recommend nelly ohr, recommend that nelly ohr go to work for fusion, why didn't bruce ohr, another very important question, why didn't bruce ohr disclose his wife's work on financial disclosure form, why didn't he say she worked at fusion and didn't talk about her income, we know that he was instrumental in helping her so why was he so vague on his financial disclosure? brian: give you an idea of how significant this is, fusion gps hired by dnc and hillary clinton to dig up dirt on president trump, he has to hire people to do it, when he gets intelligence he takes it and push it back to fusion gps, so when sally yates gets fired and james comey is in trouble, guess what happens? christopher steele needs to reach out to somebody, he needs to reach to somebody in doj that's involved in narcotics,
why would you do that? why were you texting back and forth? could it be that your wife your connection and he was the conduit? >> you're right on, bruce ohr did not have to do with the type of investigations, he was a gang land and drug prosecutor. number four at the department of justice, why would steele have reached out to him is a very important question and what was his wife doing and who knew about it, look, ohr's direct boss was sally yates, another trump-hating doj official. brian: by the way, david as i mentioned earlier will be with the president as he goes to west virginia, happy west virginians because the president is deregulating coal regulations, obama said he was going to bankrupt coal companies, this president is not. thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. brian: hope you get first-class
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[inaudible] ainsley: prime minister not backing down, he would be very clear when people are pushing politics of fear and intolerance; that's something canadians expect of me. since last year over 32,000 illegals have crossed into canada, steve. steve: big tech censoring conservatives this time republican congressional candidate elizabeth hang of california, hang says both facebook and twitter blocked this ad calling it vulgar, obscene and disrespectful, that ad details her personal story, how her parents escaped the communist regime of cambodia and came to live in the united states of america. so why would social media deem history, family history being too controversial to put on platforms? here with more is california republican congressional candidate elizabeth hang, elizabeth, good morning to you. >> good morning to you too. steve: we showed a little bit of
it, what was it in your personal story ad that had both facebook and traitor saying no, we can't run this? >> you know, when i decided to run for congress i knew that a big part of my story was going to be great things can come from great adversity, just to kind of give you background on me, my parents lived through the genocide in cambodia, came to the united states as refugees and i decide today kind of highlight, you know, their journey and for some reason facebook didn't like that and revoked my ability to promote that online. steve: we are looking at it and we see your beautiful family and it's the american dream what happened to you, but what was it, was it imagery in there or some words, they both said this is over the line? >> yeah, so i believe that it was the beginning portion of it that showed mere glimpse of genocide that they didn't like,
those were just photos, right, my family lived through this, this is our story, for a tech giant such as facebook to revoke my ability to tell my story and what history gets to live on, i find highly problematic. steve: okay, and so now your story had come to light, how did facebook and twitter react? >> both of them -- so with facebook i was able to promote it for two days before they revoked it and said that it was shocking, disrespectful and sensational, it took over 5 days plus a whole national movement for them to acknowledge later on that i'm sorry for the confusion on that and there's a problem with this because what if that had happened 5 days prior to the election. steve: sure. here is the official statement from facebook in part, upon further review it is clear this video contains imagery relevant to the candidate story, we have since approved the ad and it is
now running on facebook and essentially twitter said exactly the same thing. but elizabeth, i have a question for you, you're just another conservative we heard has had problem with social media giants, how many people on the political left have you heard having a similar problem? >> i haven't heard anybody and once again, we are seeing how conservative voices continue to be stifled and silenced by liberal tech giants and this is a huge problem, right, i was very fortunate that i was able to have -- i'm running for office now and i had this national platform that i can talk about this, what about for all of the other individuals who don't have the ability, how many voices are being stifled out there? steve: that's exactly right, that's why congress may be looking into it. elizabeth hang running in california, ally beth, thank you very much for telling your story today here on "fox & friends". >> thank you.
steve: all right, good luck. now you know, what do you think in meanwhile it's the breaking news we have been talking about all morning, a nazi guard living in new york has just been deported by ice. and politics taking center stage at vma's. >> in this game you guys are allowed to kneel, you can do whatever the hell you want, no white man to stop you n your face, trump. steve: ben shapiro editor-in-chief joins us with reaction, both stories coming up live from new york city. ♪
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germany, 94-year-old polij landing in germany this morning according to department of justice he served as armed guard at a death camp in poland and lied to immigration officials when he arrived in the united states in 1949. polij from poland became a u.s. citizen in 1957, in 2005 a judge revoked citizenship and ordered his deportation after he admit today training at a nazi death camp where thousands of jews were killed. ainsley: well, richard, u.s. ambassador joined us earlier to explain the timing on this, listen. >> we have a president who really wants to fight for the american people and he wants to make sure that the rule of law is followed and so when you have a case like this where in 2004 this individual is told that he is no longer u.s. citizen and must be deported and consecutive administrations ignore that it tears down the rule of law, takes somebody like the president to say this is a
decision. brian: i remember the whole controversy years ago and they said he was auto worker, turns out he was a nazi guard too. it's unclear if the former nazi will face prosecution in germany right now but i think it's fascinating to see that they are still on hunt and how many came over here and lied about what they were and what they did. ainsley: one of the perfect people to talk about this is ben shapiro, editor-in-chief of daily wire, what do you make of this? >> obviously it's a good day for the country when an exnazi gets deported and sad that there are many prior administrations that failed to do the job. president trump is very bad at being a nazi, so many on the left accuse of being nazi and he just gortd one and that's pretty good indicater that he takes this sort of thing seriously. steve: surely, i don't know that it's -- it could be coincidence but doesn't seem to be because
yesterday the president hosted in the east room of the white house the salute the heros, all about the ice agents and this morning we wake up to the news that ice deported the last known nazi, it's all part of the narrative that the administration is trying to present to voters before the midterm elections, look, this is a choice election, you have got either the republicans who are strong on borders, they like ice versus democrats who some want to abolish it and are soft on borders. >> no question, certainly part of the president's appeal and tweeting about it all morning. he's exactly right. you look at the democratic platform right now they are moving steadily in direction of antiborderrist party that doesn't believe in existence of something like ice and the president understands that you do actually have to deport some folks and you do need border enforcement authority otherwise how exactly are you going to protect citizens of the united states, current citizens and in terms of the character to have united
states when people can get in about lying about nazi past. brian: you have ortiz that was successful, the 28-year-old that you're trying to get to debate but the ones that almost win and close the gap and other like connor lamb that do, they don't talk about strategies, they sound almost like republicans, ben, where do you go from rhetoric to reality? >> it's really interesting phenomena to watch the rhetoric of the democratic party is taking over the left of the democratic. the people winning are more moderate democrats, if they are smart they will embrace moderate democrats, they are afraid ofial -- alienating millennials.
ainsley: this is a shocker, award show got political last night vma awards, watch this clip. >> you never know what's going to happen at the vma's, bad language, people run to the bathroom and send out crazy tweets, it's basically like typical day at the white house. in your face, trump. do not worry because at this game you guys are allowed to kneel, you can do whatever the hell you want, no old white man can stop you. ♪ ♪ ainsley: all right, what was your reaction to that? logic, slamming the border wall and all the families, immigrant families joined together when -- steve: the wall went up. ainsley: when the wall goes up.
>> so much courage, so much courage to be in los angeles to talk about how terrible trump is and how levels of courage, it's incredible to watch all of the brave and courageous millions of dollars selling records to millions of americans talking about leftist politics that will congratulate them at after parties who will get thousands of dollars. brian: kevin hart in particular, he's in new york city, out of his way to be successful comedians and entertain nester the country and every time someone tries to get political he always backed off, he says i want to be positive, what happened, what do you think changed? what's the -- do you think he was winging it, to me that seemed intentional. >> no, it's definitely intentional. i'm going to make a headline tonight and i have to virtue signal to all the people in the hollywood community and new york community that i'm antitrump, president trump has basically become the moral litmus test for
folks on the left and west coast. i wouldn't count him out at presidential contender because he fires up base and the only thing that unifies the democrats right now is hatred of the president. steve: plenty of that to go around. >> certainly, the vma's, demonstrates the elitist nature of the democratic party and the elitist nature of the left right now people in the middle of the country who are word about jobs and manufacturing and issues in town and scorn by the folks on the coast, they are not looking at that with the sort of kind of eye that democrats think they are, hillary clinton tried in 2016, it didn't work then, democrats double down what took them there. brian: you think a contender of nomination? >> i don't see why not? spends all of his time dogging
the president. steve: he's busy at that, ben, thank you very much for joining us from the west coast. ainsley: thanks, ben. jillian is standing by and has headlines for us. jillian: update, the colorado man charged with killing his entire family now claims his pregnant wife murdered their little girls, according to an affidavit chris says he killed wife in rage after watching her strangling daughter in baby monitor, she claims he was upset after he asked for separation, it was unclear he knew about affair with coworker, watts will be in court today. illegal immigrant arrested while taking wife to hospital, méxico confirming that report, a source telling the associated press that mexican officials also asked the u.s. for help getting him in custody. his wife told local media she thinks he was mistaken for his brother. are you ready if this? animal crackers are breaking free, nabisco changing packaging
under pressure from animal activism group peta, animals will no longer appear to be circus cages instead as you can see they will roam free in the grass and trees, new boxes on stores and shelfs now. don't the animals look happier, though? brian: all zoos should let them all go, fantastic. open cages. ainsley: go up sixth avenue, there's a zoo in there. brian: what about the bronx, will fit right in. steve: a lot no longer enclosures with cages and stuff like that. >> kind of la habitats. ainsley: brian wants to free the bears. janice: i think it's trending on twitter that somebody will be on
the dunk tank from "fox & friends", are you guys ready, what do you want to see in the dunk tank? wow, nobody? we have sister mary jo, she will be showing us the amazing pitching arm that she has, first take a look at the weather, hurricane category 4, hurricane lane and we are worried about our hawaiian island, pay very close attention, they will set up some advisories later on today, this could have direct impact on honolulu, keep that in mind. temperatures across the northeast, potential for showers and thunderstorms later on today across the northeast but not now, it's a beautiful forecast and look who is with me. >> good morning. janice: sister mary jo, how are you? >> fantastic, how are you? janice: you are an internet sensation? >> it's nunbelievable as they
have been saying. janice: ready to dunk an anchor? >> not dunk anchor but throw. janice: hopefully not me. [laughter] steve: it's going to be great, folks will find out who will go in dunk tank in 5 minutes. tick, tick. ainsley: also next president trump lashing out at special counsel saying an interview with robert mueller would be perjury trap, we are live at the white house. ♪
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on robert mueller in a series of tweets targeting russia investigation. steve: the president expressing concerns of perjury trap, griff jenkins live at the white house with the very latest, hello, griff. >> good morning, guys, the president left little doubt on where he stands with some things, on interview he says he could take over special counsel investigation, i can do whatever i want, i'm deciding to stay out, i will stay out. the president raises concerns with sitting with mueller and saying, quote, if i say something and comey says something, it is my word against him and he's best friends with mueller and mueller might say, well, i believe comey and even if i'm telling the truth that makes me a liar, that's no good. early in the day busy on calling
mueller disgrace and discredited noting that it was he approved dan mcgahn cooperating with mueller's team and accusing him of ruining people's lives, president trump's attorney rudy giuliani downplayed and leaning against client sitting with mueller sarcastically saying this. >> you know, you give us the questions in advance, it's not under oath, you don't keep q&a which is report and by the way, write the report that i'm innocent before you question me. >> so far the president has closed door meetings, west virginia to campaign for the attorney general there at the rally we may hear yet more about this and other things, guys. steve: griff, thank you.
brian: we go to close door and put your ear next to it. steve: can i come on in in call her the holy thrower, the nun is going viral for first pitch at the white sox game over the weekend, sister mary jo warming up outside, one of us is going into the dunk tank, next who would be? stay tune.look at that. before nexium 24hr mark could only imagine... a peaceful night sleep without frequent heartburn waking him up. now that dream is a reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn?
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deliberations, his team feels encouraged, we will be watching that. our headliner former ice director, a team on deck, we will see you live in studio j in a few moments from now. steve: all right, meanwhile take a look at this, the nun stole the show saturday night in chicago throwing out the first pitch with perfect accuracy. brian yeah, sister mary jo. mariana catholic school was being honored that night. steve: round of applause. [cheers and applause] steve: when did you learn how to start doing this? >> you know, it's kind of like just walking for me. i can't tell you when i learned it. it comes natural, surprises me that people don't know how to do it. brian: you were a high school player? >> in college. brian: this is natural for you to do this?
>> it is. janice: how are you dealing with fame on the internet? >> i feel famous, really i do. they are wonderful and more than love for sports, i know people recognize my joy for gospel and joy for life, that's the most important thing. [cheers and applause] >> she drew the short stick. >> i am doing this because i love jesus. [applause] >> i don't know. brian: ainsley was overwhelmingly voted. ainsley: why wasn't it you? i have to get rid of microphone. sister, please. please don't hit it. >> okay. you let me know when you're ready. you're read -- ready.
>> oh, my gosh. >> of! >> who does jesus likes better? >> oh, my goodness. steve: come on, sister mary jo. >> by the way, these are all strikes. >> they are. [applause] >> are you okay? >> all right. >> sister, how do you feel dunking ainsley?
>> wonderful. >> don't hug her. [applause] >> think of it as baptism. >> thank you. >> more can sister mary jo in just a second. his well being. but meningitis b progresses quickly and can be fatal, sometimes within 24 hours. while meningitis b is uncommon, about 1 in 10 infected will die. like millions of others, your teen may not be vaccinated against meningitis b. meningitis b strikes quickly. be quick to talk to your teen's doctor about a meningitis b vaccine.
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