we're doing, i say come on, let me see what you have. they want to do things. steve: i thought that was so fascinating, the sort of intricacy there. he tot totally got the new situn and felt confident he could make something happen. it's almost like he should be in his element, the art of the deal. >> yeah. steve: do you agree with that and do you think in a sense that his supporters will support him if he goes down that road trying to make deals? >> look, we saw him do this at the beginning of his term. he started that with daca. we're getting rid of the executive order that barack obama implemented that had an expiration and he was really literally willing to negotiate with the democrats. this always made me a little nervous about the president and the democrats, though, have not wanted to go near it specifically because they know that he is serious, that he is willing to negotiate. and they have relied on chaos
we're doing, i say come on, let me see what you have. they want to do things. steve: i thought that was so fascinating, the sort of intricacy there. he tot totally got the new situn and felt confident he could make something happen. it's almost like he should be in his element, the art of the deal. >> yeah. steve: do you agree with that and do you think in a sense that his supporters will support him if he goes down that road trying to make deals? >> look, we saw him do this at the beginning of his term. he started that with daca. we're getting rid of the executive order that barack obama implemented that had an expiration and he was really literally willing to negotiate with the democrats. this always made me a little nervous about the president and the democrats, though, have not wanted to go near it specifically because they know that he is serious, that he is willing to negotiate. and they have relied on chaos
president trump's mechanism for retaliating against china was the wrong mechanism. he should have gone through the global trading rules for retaliation and he didn't do that. that is designed to slow down the process, it takes a few years, and ensures another country won't retaliate against the retaliation. by going outside of the rules, which no leader has done in 70 years, he creptedated a situn where china had an open door to re-tal yalt against our retaliation and the thing happens quickly and we go into a downward spiral. >> if this is not a short-term situation, if this is not resolved in the next couple of days, if it remains the case for a while, a year from now let's say, what is the effect on life in america because of this? >> there are a llt lot of effec. it is hard to know where to start. prices on a lot of things will go up, manufacturing processes making their output less competitive, but president trump has undermined the global
publicity and you need it fast. >> at a fundraising pace. >> at a fundraising pace. if you can get in there early and win in iowa and in new hampshire you immediately new become the odds on favorite for the nomination. if it is a bloodless strategy he is doing a pretty good job at running. r itun we are living in a media age and they love the media savy celebrities.sa he is showing that he has that ability. >> how do you think about howdo cruz has helped himself orou hurt himself.t a lot of the republican colleagues in the senate don'teu agree with what he is doing. but they don't vote in iowa.>> >> and here is why some people have used the word cynicism. as you mentioned there is an enormousth frustration among conservatives in the base. they lost last year's election with a candidate who was not a great candidate.grea they felt the rnc let themdo down and theyw were out matched. they want change in
it's a long, rambling question. it was specific and about the campaigns. >> almost as long as your question now? >> you know what i'm saying. he asked about the campaign specifically. sessions answered it, now they're doing the bait and switch. >> they are doing the bait and switch. at the end of the day do i think there is a enoug nefarious situn here. no. >> good. dr. kelly. >> what i will say -- agree that sessions should of recused himself. i think they had conversations before this. it's to easy to verify. i don't think it's going to put the fire out at any degree. i don't think -- this will be the drum beat of the day from the democratic position until another issue takes over this. is another example of self