detail and again. i urge people to read it. this is what the president of united states said that very same day. as we do this, we re also working to move our afghan allies who stood with us side by side and other vulnerable afghans, such as women leaders and journalists out of the country. so at a minimum inconsistency rules on the ground in afghanistan, where nowhere not even close to what the president of states was describing that very day. that s exactly right, john, um, competing and conflicting and confusing guidance that people like sam aronson, this young foreign service officer we re dealing with resulted in them standing outside air abbey gate and having families clutching and clawing at them in fear of their lives and people being separated because their extended families suddenly couldn t be part of their evacuation group and then situations where people who had successfully applied for a special immigration visa. special immigrant visa. these s i v s. but there is a huge
thank you, mr. secretary. and i appreciate your commitment to getting him home. when it comes to everyone trying to get allies out of afghanistan, general milley, i understand from public reporting you have been working with veteran groups and other ngo s voluntarily offering their help in continued effort to evacuate americans and at-risk afghans, from afghanistan, can you share any detail with us in the public today about that effort? yes, what we did, senator, we did a little outreach to groups that are probably well known to folks in this room. had them in for sessions in the defense department to have a picture of what siv s, what p1v2s are still there and tried
0 about 100 americans and that figure doesn t change. we need a real accounting for how many people, big difference between 100 and 4000. my biggest takeaway, we have no counter terrorism strategy and milley and mckenzie testifyod this, mckenzie said he is not confident we can prevent al qaeda or isis. harris: i am rushing, it is top of the hour, kayleigh and emily, everybody on outnumbered, quick one for us as we ark wait the panel to reconvene. thanks for watching fox news. our coverage continues on america reports. sandra: the senate armed services adjourning for a break, set to resume 30 minutes from now. the nation s top military leaders facing tough questioning on capitol hill for the first time since the chaotic exit from afghanistan. hello and welcome, everyone, i m sandra smith in new york. john: i m john robert necessary washington. lloyd austin, and general mark milley and general frank mckenzie all testifying today before the senate armed everybodies iss committee
we re understanding, began removing people in the early spring, cognizant of our time frame to get out by the end of the august and he was just wondering aloud why we weren t doing the same. do you know whether we were? you know, whether that was a problem early on, that military leaders, maybe yourself, wondered about? absolutely, neil. as a matter of fact, early in the spring, senator jeanne shaheen of new hampshire and i and a handful of other senators went to the white house to speak to the national security advisors to the president. we expressed our concerns that we were not moving as quickly as our allies and in supporting those siv s, we knew that france, we knew that germany, the u.k., they had already started removing their interpreters and other special immigrant visa holders for
their own countries out of the country of afghanistan. so we were pushing on the state department, however, the state department drug their feet and we know they really didn t start a concerted effort until about the middle of july in getting those siv s going. so we were way behind the power curve and it was an issue that we raised very early in the spring and we continued to raise today. i don t know how we solve this problem. i do know there are many charitable organizations that are working on getting siv s and american citizens out of afghanistan right now. but it is much more complicated because we don t have the folks doing consular activities in afghanistan right now. neil: the leverage we do have, senator, we hear from the administration and the state department is that 9 1/2 billion in frozen funds, we can unfreeze them and the taliban knows that and will probably try to work with us because it wants that.