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didn't air that speech. we knew it was a stunt and a lie. but it's to prove a point. the vastness of the lie, the -- if mueller were investigating, this is a conspiracy, you just had all of your co-conspirators there. what's hard for me to deduce is where the lie comes from. is this a state -- a media-run state or a state-run media? >> now to get historical, all the social scientists who have looked at the rise of authoritarians since the 1930s and the rise of autocrats, part of it is labeling the other as the people who are infiltrating, poise ooning your society. that's been true of every bad guy. trump is letter "a" example of that. and it's a kind of odious thing. because people can't estimate the numbers of, like -- they look at that crowd and think -- that's fewer people than waiting in line at the subway underneath this building every day.
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