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>> scott says publicly shaming for sure. don says used to be going to jail was public shaming. >> amy says i prefer neither. that's why i follow the law. >> very good, amy. >> "fox & friends first" is going to begin shortly -- >> "fox & friends," you mean. >> thanks for watching. good morning. it is monday, september 22. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. police issue an arrest warrant for a person of interest in the case of missing university of virginia student hannah graham. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. >> plus this morning her emotional parents speaking out for the very first time. >> meanwhile, another fox news alert. three afghan soldiers who were visiting a military training camp here in this country in massachusetts are missing this morning. where are they? and what kind of a threat do they pose to anybody around there? >> plus this will make your monday. a look at what happens when dogs go under water. yeah. they keep their eyes open, one thing is clear. mornings are better with friends. watch this animation. >> welcome aboard, folks. it's official. say so long to sun screen and hello pumpkin spice latte. today is the first day of fall. >> you make it sound good with the latte. >> put it this way, if you were outside yesterday i think it's time to keep your muscle t-shirts out and your tight little shorts available because i believe that the weather is not giving up on the summer. >> you think there's still tanning potential? >> that's what i'm saying. if you wear your liner in your jacket, i think you're going to be sweaty. >> where did you spend your sunday? at hooters? >> just sayin'. >> i'm just sayin' too. keep your tight little shorts? >> don't judge me. >> it is the autumnal equinox today, first day of fall and we start with a fox news alert. that person of interest in the case of missing student hannah graham now a wanted man. police in charlottesville, virginia, issued an arrest warrant for jesse matthew. ainsley earhardt joins us with the details. ainsley, didn't the police talk to him for a minute? >> yeah, they did. but now the virginia state police, they're on the hunt again for this guy. his name is jesse matthew. they have a warrant for his arrest charging him with reckless driving. police say over the weekend matthew, who is a person of interest in the disappearance of university of virginia student 18-year-old hannah graham, walked into a police station, spoke to a lawyer, then got into a car and sped away. police looking for anybody that might have seen this car last friday or saturday. meantime police still know very little about matthew's interaction with graham the night she disappeared. >> i believe jesse matthew was the last person she was seen with before she vanished off the face of the earth. because it's been a week and we can't find her. but somebody knows where she is. >> graham went missing more than a week ago. she was last seen on surveillance video walking into a restaurant with a man believed to be matthew. hannah's parents making an emotional plea to the public. >> this is every parent's worst nightmare. i'm certain that everybody in this room and those watching knows that what happened to hannah could happen to their child. >> more than 1,200 people spent their weekend searching for hannah. police say they will keep searching until they find her. the miss chief, chief longo, says he doesn't want to get tunnel vision just focusing on one person, on matthew. the chief adds he believes someone knows where hannah graham is and hopefully they will find her. back to you. >> family holding out hope. this also developing yoaf night. a search underway at this hour for three afghan soldiers who disappeared while visiting the united states. peter doocy is live in washington. good morning to you, peter. what and how much of a threat does this pose at the time? >> elisabeth, nobody has seen these three afghan soldiers since saturday night when they were spotted about 20 miles from joint base cape cod at the cape cod mall in hyannis, a normal enough collection of stores that also has a movie theaters and chain restaurants. one of the missing soldiers is a major. the other two are captains. they were in the united states for u.s. central command regional cooperation exercise, which is a big event that involves 200 people from five countries including 12 soldiers from afghanistan. this event has been going on since 2004 but right now the military is working with local police forces to figure out where these three are. >> each hour that goes by gets a little more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody, as time goes on it gets more concerning. the other thing is are they the victims of some t violent act. hopefully they extended their weekend and at some point will show up at the base tonight or be found by folks. >> so far we don't have any reason to believe these three missing afghan soldiers are dangerous. they arrived on september 11 in and a massachusetts national guards spokesman is saying these are senior-ranked soldiers who had permission to come to the u.s. for this event. >> peter, there's always the possibility they simply don't want to go back to afghanistan; right? >> nobody knows. all that they know is they were at the mall. they could have been doing anything. they got stuff from abercrombie to chipotle there. they could have been going for dinner. nobody knows. >> i'll take cape cod over kabul any day. maybe they're realizing that. >> let me ask you this question. what do hillary clinton, former c.i.a. director, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and now former defense secretary leon panetta have in common? they all suggested president obama arm syrians back in 2012 to avoid the situation we are now in called isis. leon panetta spoke on "60 minutes" about how he now is being vocal and why president obama's foreign policy is not sitting well with him. >> the real key was how can we develop a leadership group among the opposition that would be able to take control. and my view was to have leverage to do that. we would have to provide the weapons and the training in order for them to really be willing to work with us in that effort. but with virtually his entire national security team unanimous on this, that's not the decision the president made. >> i think the president's concern -- and i understand it -- was that he had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was you have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> the free syrian army needed to be supplied. senator john mccain, lindsey graham said that. it turns out heend -- behind the scenes his whole staff was saying that and the president decided not to do that after taking a walk with somebody. i think it might have been valerie jarrett. so leon panetta, as he sells a book -- i'm interested in that book because he has been a voice of reason in two different situations in very important times. however, you wonder if things had been different if he found a way to do what colin powell did, leak his views through the press. >> leon panetta in the premier of "60 minutes" said we should have armed the rebels back then. he also said he wishes we would have had a residual force there of 8,000. that would have turned the tide and prevent maliki, the guy running the country, headed in the right direction. he went off the rails and now we're all screwed up over there. meanwhile, king abdullah, here in new york city for the u.n. general assembly that starts this week, told scott pelly as well that isis could have been stopped. listen. >> could the rise of isis have been prevented? >> they could have been prevented if the international community worked harder together to make sure that funding and support to the original groups in syria were not allowed to get to the extent that they were. >> the international community, the united states intervened too late? >> i think we could have done a better job in making sure that earlier on it was identified who the bad people were and action by the international community was taken not to allow that to happen. >> a haunting statement right there by king abdullah. when you hear leon panetta say this will take a long time, reiterating the fact that it will take years and years, perhaps longer, to get rid of isis, they're still funding, they're taxing, receiving donations. they have troops of 40,000 being aided by up to 100,000, according to kurdish intelligence collaborating with them. and that is why the time is now on the other side. >> here's the other thing. jordan almost doubled their population with the syrian refugees and they set up this village in the middle of the desert in between the two countries so it's directly affecting them. if king abdullah said that -- and i understand the president's view that he's afraid of arms getting in the wrong hands, clearly now it would have been a lot better to take that risk. let's see jordan take some troops. let's see egypt take troops. let them start fighting. saudi arabia has to do more than have a base area where the syrian army can train for a year. >> allowing the sunni force to take over; why aren't they doing more? you would expect them to. >> iran wants nothing to do with the rise in sunnis but iran would like to see the goodbye, the isis exit as would hezbollah. complicated situation. >> yes indeed. about 11 minutes after the top of the hour on this the first day of fall. the equinox. and look who's here. >> the temperatures are matching it. hope you had a good weekend. we have a huge break to tell you about in the case of an accused cop killer on the run. an assault rifle was just found stashed in the woods in pennsylvania. it is believed to belong to eric frein. police believe he was planning to ambush for months, maybe years. it is believed he murdered one state trooper, and injured another. people in the poconos are being told to stay inside, lock your doors and wen dose. five extremely dangerous inmates who escaped from a california prison are back behind bars. a tip led to a 33-year-old who escaped saturday night by breaking a wind. four other inmates followed him out of that window. they were captured an hour later. inmates on jail on charges including attempted murder and armed robbery. the man who breached the white house in court today. omar gonzalez hopped the front fences and bolted across the lawn friday evening. when secret service agents stopped him, they found that he was armed with a 3.5 inch knife. the iraq veteran's family claims that he sufs from ptsd -- suffers from ptsd and would never hurt anyone. gonzalez faces up to ten years in prison. >> what were you doing after the game? for this player of the seattle seahawks, he was asking his girlfriend to marry him. after the win against the broncos he changed out of his uniform into a dress shirt, kneeled down nid field, popped the question and he did say yes. he then posted off this photo on instagram showing off the ring. congratulations to him and a double win for him. seattle won. >> congratulations. >> wouldn't it be great if we had that super bowl at metlife stadium. but what a game that was. did you see any of that? >> no. >> that was stunning. how did your daughter let you get away with that not watching the game. >> she wanted to watch indy. we keep that ear to the ground. >> 13 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, did you have crazy dreams hast night? you're not alone. the science behind why your mind sometimes just runs wild has now been revealed and we'll explain it all. the feds no longer prosecuting illegal immigrants crossing the border. why? we're going to ask a border agent that very question next. ♪ ♪ woooo. i know what you're thinking. you're thinking beneful. 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"hello. you can go ahead and "have a nice flight."re." ♪ music plays ♪ music plays traveling can feel like one big mystery. you're never quite sure what is coming your way. but when you've got an entire company who knows that the fewest cancellations and the most on-time flights are nothing if we can't get your things there, too. it's no wonder more people choose delta than any other airline. ♪ ♪ >> don't turn around. >> this has gone crazy. gone viral. last week we asked you to send us pictures of where you watch "fox & friends" and people all around the world watch us in all sorts of places. >> we thought it was fair if you could see us we want to see you. the millers write we watch "fox & friends" from our motor home. >> big bird writes i watch every morning in my garage. >> if you watch that, you go out there. nelson from florida writes this is where i watch you guys every morning, here in my man cave. i'm always seated and ready by the start of the show. you guys are great and there is no way i can get through my day without starting my day without all of you. i really like brian kilmeade best. >> i don't think it said that. >> i ad libbed a little. >> that guy sure has a lot of signs. i wonder if his area has any signs left. you can buy those. >> keep them calling. we love to see all of you in the morning. >> #betterwithsigns. >> caught on camera. look at this. a mid air emergency. this happened over atlanta. it looks like the plane's engines are smoking. see that, the trails it. that's actually thousands of gallons of fuel being dumped from this delta flight. a pilot on the ground recorded the whole thing. >> fuel being dumped from the airplane. this is the first time i actually saw by that load actually dump fuel. >> the plane was going from atlanta to japan when one of its engines blew. the plane landed safely and no one was hurt. a stunning new report. top-level officials are leaving the department of homeland security at alarming rates and it may actually put your security at risk. over the past four years employees have left d.h.s. twice as fast as the rest of the government. employees are reportedly saying it's because of a dysfunctional work environment, low morale and the lure of private contractors. a major tuberculosis scare at a texas hospital. more than 700 infants may have been exposed to the disease over the past year by a hospital employee. the worker in question worked in the nursery may also have exposed 40 other employees. the bacteria that causes t.b. can lay dormant for years which is why babies born at the hospital over the past 12 months are being asked to undergo screening. incredible video catches the moment a huge mountain lion jumps through the bushes as police chase it through a salt lake city neighborhood. the animal had been spotted several times throughout the day. police shot it with a tranquilizeer but that didn't do too much good. the mountain lion ran over a mile before being caught. >> never growled. never postured or aggressive posturing. it just wanted to run away. yet it's very capable of going over six and eight foot fences. it covered a lot of ground. >> police found the animal hiding under a trailer before grabbing it. the mountain lion will be relocated. look at that. those are your headlines. now let's turn to maria molina on the first official day of fall. we welcome it. >> good to see you this morning. for the first day of fall we are going to be dealing with showers and thunderstorms. that's going to be across portions of the southeastern united states and especially across the state of florida. you're really going to need umbrellas later today. early this morning we're already seeing showers and storms across parts of new mexico, colorado and those will persist throughout the afternoon hours. those current temperatures across parts of the great lakes, the midwest and into the northeast really already feeling like fall. you're in the 50's this morning. cleveland in the 40's. in chicago and minneapolis. take a look at the afternoon high temperatures. this is coming up later today. in cleveland you're not going to make it out of the 50's today. in new york city, meanwhile 67 for the high. across portions of texas, in the 80's and 90's. the official start of fall is coming up tonight at 10:29 p.m. eastern time. that is when it is the autumnal equinox. all downhill from here. we're going to be seeing temperatures plunging and heading into winter eventually. but for now, fall. >> thank you very much. >> hometown boy from long island, new york, taking the world boxing, world by storm and preparing to enter the ring against welter weight champ manny pacquiao. here's chris algieri. congratulations on your success. >> thank you. >> this is your w.b.l. belt? >> this is my baby. >> you take it everywhere you go? >> only for special events. >> everybody goes to work with a briefcase but that's how you go to work. >> how do you protect yourself? the biggest fight of your life coming up november 22 against pacquiao. >> it's on november 22, 9 p.m. >> how do you go into that mentally? what is your focus? >> training camp already has begun. i'm going to las vegas to train and will be 100% prepared. >> does it matter who's in there with you? strategy always changing? >> absolutely. you have to approach it in a specific way. manny has a specific style. >> you only started fighting a few years ago. you were kick boxing prior to that. you have a college degree. you graduated from stony brook. boxers don't usually have this kind of background. >> that's how i approach the sport. i approach it cerebrally. >> you've got a degree in health care which means you can beat somebody up and then nurse them back to health. >> knock them out, throw them a card. >> you have a masters in nutrition? what is i don't go-to pre-fight, post-fight. >> i like oatmeal. oatmeal and eggs. >> this is what you eat at home where you still live with your family? >> yes, i live at home with my family in long island. >> aren't you thinking about leaving? >> my mom and dad aren't happy about it. >> your mom wants to cook for you. >> can you show me a signature move? >> we're going to pretend we're all righties. put that foot in front. hands up against our face. hands up, stay pretty. we're going to learn a one, a two and a three. one is our left jab straight out in front. our two is our right hand, turn all the way through. we're going to throw a throw which is our left hook. >> one, two -- >> start with the left. one, two, three. excellent. again. >> one, two, three. >> you've done this before. >> the thing is you're fighting pacquiao, he's a little smaller than you, little lighter than you, much more experienced than you. i'll be pacquiao. i'll help you out. >> you're going to switch your feet. >> did he tell you that? >> our hands are lined up a little differently. with manny, he's big on throwing this hand, so i'm going to be constantly moving this way, going this way, hitting him constantly. lots of movement. >> this is going to take more than just one lesson. congratulations. >> thank you. >> coming up, remember those fights between passengers on crammed airplanes? one airline is making skies more friendly to people and meet the judge who puts people on the corner of shame. ♪ ♪ 't lame♪ ♪but this... ♪takes my breath away 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about? foreign markets. asian debt that recognizes the shift in the global economy. you know, the kind that capitalizes on diversity across the credit spectrum and gets exposure to frontier and emerging markets. if you convert 4-quarter p/e of the s&p 500, its yield is doing a lot better... if you've had to become your own investment expert, maybe it's time for bny mellon, a different kind of wealth manager ...and black swans are unpredictable. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ right here. with a control pad that can read your handwriting, a wide-screen multimedia center, and a head-up display for enhanced driver focus. all inside a newly redesigned cabin of unrivaled style and comfort. ♪ the all-new c-class. a a a a welcome back. consumer headlines for you now. new problems for the troubled obamacare law. those signing up for promised tax credits to help cut the cost of insurance, but now hundreds of thousands of people may have to pay back that money because the income they listed on the applications did not match their tax returns. home depot offering free identity protection services and credit monitoring for a year to the 56 million customers affected by its data breach. the airbus is coming to the rescue. the plane maker announcing a new design that will shrink bathrooms to make space in the cabin more comfortable. >> how can they possibly shrink bathrooms? they are so small already. a missouri judge had it with lawbreakers disrespecting the court but instead of sending them to jail, he's sending repeat offenders to the corner of shame. joining us from st. louis is judge richard scobie. good morning, judge. people who simply would not show up in court would not pay their fines and, that really bugged you, didn't it? >> well, con tem of court is my -- contempt of court is my power to force people to do and comply with my orders. when they didn't do that, my choice is either an additional fine which wasn't seeming to work, or incarceration which is pretty severe. so i came up with this tool, and the policy that if you don't come to court, you don't pay your fines -- and it's usually a combination of both -- you can have the option of instead of fines or jail, you can have the option of wearing the sign. >> we've got an image of a guy who is actually wearing the sign there in missouri. and what it says is won't come to court, won't pay my fine so judge skouby ordered me to pay this fine. it rhymes. >> i didn't entend for it to come out exactly like that. this isn't a laughing matter. without judicial orders being followed the law is only words. it is my responsibility to make sure people not only respect but follow court's orders and i take that very seriously. and it seemed to me like there was quite a few of them who weren't taking it seriously. i think i have their attention now. >> no kidding. now i would imagine when somebody gets an order you've got to show up in judge skouby's courtroom, they show up, don't they? >> the information i'm receiving from the police department and from the general consensus after court was nobody wants to wear the sign. certainly they prefer that over going to jail. and i don't want to make somebody who is a nonviolent offender lose their job, but i do want to remind them and it is my responsibility to remind them, you're not supposed to do this again. >> it is the law. you've got to follow the law. what's the reaction been from your town? >> kind of mixed. i think a lot of people like it. some people strongly dislike it. but i'm not running a public opinion poll. i have a job to do. my job is to foster and reenforce respect for the judicial system and that's what i intend to do. >> so far just the one guy holding the sign has stood this on the shame corner. how many other people are potentially going to wind up holding that there in your town? >> like i said, if the promise of complying has greatly increased since the first gentleman had to wear the sign, it is a problem that potentially could affect right now on my docket maybe 25 people. and that number rotates. i mean, we do roughly 75 to 100 tickets a month. the number of people who don't pay their fines just keeps getting larger and that creates a big burden on our court clerk. it almost doubles her work. i'm not here to save the taxpayers money. it's good when i can. but the lack of respect is what concerns me the most. we live in a country where we were all raised to believe in this but it seems like it's kind of gotten lost in late times. >> you know what? you're exactly right, judge, and you're doing something to try to get people's attention. pay your fine, come to court. it's what you're supposed to do. that's why they call it the law. we'd love to have folks weigh in on our facebook page. we're asking is this fine or over the line? judge, thank you very much. thanks for joining us from your town out in missouri. 12 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up, this war vet has seen all sorts of mayhem on the battle but his wife having a baby on the side of a highway, that's a whole new one. hear from him straight ahead. what do you get when you put a camera, a pool and 1,500 puppies together? a dangerous amount of cute photos. meet the guy behind the pics coming up. ♪ ♪ you can eat that on weight watchers? looks amazing. dine out on favorites or cook up something new. with weight watchers you can enjoy the food you really want. join for free and start losing weight now. learn how to eat healthier, while enjoying the foods you love. ♪ ♪ "here i am. rock you like a hurricane." ♪ fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. you pay your auto insurance premium every month on the dot. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? 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underwater. how did you take them underwater? >> through the course of swimming lessons with the puppies, some of them came out and got lessons, they learned about how to be confident and how to get out. but some of them decided that they loved it. little olympic swimmers, dive not guilty and going under water. >> these puppies here are all up for adoption right now. we want to find them great homes. we have charlie, who is a border collie terrier mix that you see here. >> i think this is a border collie mix right here. >> he's staying within his border, we appreciate this. leslie, the hound shepherd mix. they're not responding to anybody's name. is that correct? >> yeah. >> but they are having fun here. what a great purpose to be able to keep the dog safe, but get them great homes. you have a calm spirit, this guy right here. >> let's look at some more pictures, but keep in mind, what's the response been of these pictures? >> it's been overwhelmingly positive. as it turns out, people like puppies. puppies are my favorite creature on the face of the earth. they bring us joy. >> bring us through this shot. this is in florida. a little 11-week-old lab puppy. he swam five feet down to the bottom of the pool. super slow mo. but at 11 weeks. it all started with swimming lessons. he decided wow, i love the water. i love playing this game of fetch. we're having fun. >> i didn't know there was instant replay in puppy water polo, but there is. >> what a challenge to undertake. i remember my lab jumping into the water. >> excuse me. i'mi'm sorry, elisabeth. i think by this ear here he is the guilty party. >> look at this video here. what was the biggest challenge doing this? >> the biggest challenge really was -- there wasn't really a challenge at all, to be honest with you. i'm a swim teacher more than a photographer. >> that puppy looks like he just got out of the uterus. >> i love these little creatures more than anything. it's about being patient. so i guess it wasn't too much of a challenge. my only challenge was i was sad when i was done with the book. >> you are a sweet guy, seth. look at this. you really spent so much time in the water with them. you see this with adults and children. but to do it with puppies, that's a big heart that you have. >> yeah. >> millions of people are thanking you for that. >> we got to keep these little guys safe. >> one thing you don't want to do is put three puppies in a small little cage. this is like summer slam 2016. >> i don't even hear the noises. >> listen, if you want to help and you want to adopt these puppies, contact the north shore animal league. thank you, seth. where do we go? >> any book store. support your local independent bookstores. the book is "underwater puppies." >> thank you. >> now they calmed down, now that we're done. let me tell you what's coming up. the senate minority leader just one of the heavy hitters stopping by donald trump's office this week. why? 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wow. we never thought about doing it. mornings are better with friends. >> as i just said, i had no idea that was coming up. i was not expecting that. >> it appears she quits on camera. >> that's what i would say, as opposed to the resignation letter, which is too old-fashioned. >> so much for the two weeks. >> whatever happened to plain take this job and shove it? >> i don't know. i guess that's one of the good or bad things about live television. >> we'll tell you the story behind the story. plus donald trump, who joins us every monday morning, will be with us in 90 seconds after the headlines with heather. >> i want to know what donald trump would do if he was faced with an plea like that. >> he fires a lot of people. >> manhunt is underway. we begin with this. right now for three afghan soldiers who vanished here in the united states. the major and two captains arrived at a massachusetts military base on september 11 for training. they went missing during a trip o a cape cod shopping mall saturday and the military is working with local police to try and figure out where the three went. >> each hour that goes by gets more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody, as time goes on, it gets more concerning. the other thing is were they victims of some type of violent act? so hopefully they've extended their weekend and they come back tonight. >> here is the thing that you should know, the military insists the men were fully vetted before they arrived and they do not pose a threat to the public. a huge break is being called in the case of an accused cop killer on the run. assault rifle was just found stashed in the woods in pennsylvania. and it is believed to belong to eric frien. police believe he was planning the ambush for months, maybe even years. it's believed he seriously injured one state trooper and murdered another. this morning people who live in the poconos are being told to stay inside, lock your doors and windows. virginia state police busy now on the hunt for jesse matthew, a warrant for his arrest has been arrest after he was named a person of interest in the disappearance of hannah graham. over the weekend, matthew walked into a police station, spoke with a lawyer, and then got into a car and sped away. graham, who has been missing over a month, was last seen on surveillance video with a man believed to be matthew. and a brave marine corps veteran says that he was absolutely terrified while helping his wife give birth inside a car on the side of a busy california freeway. he was heading to visit his family with his wife and their three children when sandra suddenly goes into labor. he immediately pulled over and called 911 for help. >> i don't think anyone can ever top a story like this for her. she's going to be the one going to school, tell me something about yourself. i was born on the side of a freeway. >> little savannah weighing 11 pounds, 6 ounces. mom and baby are doing fine. for that marine veteran, his best mission yet. >> that's right. >> all right. thank you very much. every monday at this time, donald trump joins us from somewhere in the world and today he joins us from -- where are you, mr. trump? >> in new york. >> good place. i'm sure you were watching "60 minutes." they premiered i believe their 47th season opener. they had leon panetta on, the former secretary of defense. we're going to play a sound bite. he says everybody in the room, he, the secretary of defense, hillary clinton and secretary of state, c.i.a. director, the chairman of the joint chiefs all told barak obama to arm the syrian rebels. but the president, he was much smarter than them. now we're in trouble. listen to this. >> the real key was how can we develop a leadership group among the opposition that would be able to take control? and my view was to have leverage to do that. we would have to provide the weapons and the training in order for them to really be willing to work with us in that effort. >> but with virtually his entire national security team unanimous on this, that's not the decision the president made. >> i think the president's concern, and i understand it -- was that he had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was you have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> what's your reaction to him saying that now? >> well, i'm not that surprised because that's him. i will say that now we are arming people, but now we have no idea who they are. they're all splintered up and they will eventually probably join isis and they'll have awful our weapons. we'll give them hundreds of millions and billions of dollars worth of weapons and they've taken them from the iraqi soldiers that we trained and they have our tanks and they have our guns and they have our missiles and they have everything else we gave them. they'll end up, isis, whoever, the bad group is at the time, will end up with whatever we give now. but it's sort of interesting, at that one point in time you really did have a strong rebel group and they were identify annual. now they're not identifiable and we're going to be doing it. he made a mistake. he makes lots of mistakes. >> i hear you mention millions and billions, mr. trump. the head of the kurdish intelligence, we're going to play the clip for you in a minute, he explained how much money we're actually talking about, how much money, how much power isis has, where they're getting it exactly. i want you to listen to this and explain how concerned this makes you. >> generates equivalent to $6 million daily by the selling of oil, taking taxes from people, ransoms and still getting donations. >> you talked about donations. >> many people who believe in this extremist ideology previous that it's their duty to donate money to this organization. >> that's been coming from where? >> different countries actually. >> in the gulf states? >> some in the gulf states. >> $6 million a day, that will keep them going forever. >> if they're not stopped. >> a lot of money. >> i've been talking about for years, elisabeth, for years the oil in iraq and they've taken over a lot of that oil. i said keep it because somebody else will take it over and they won't be our friends and you had no idea that this was going to be happening. but i did. i've always said it. i said keep the oil. some people would say, what a terrible thing. this is a sovereign country, mr. trump. how can you say such a terrible thing? it's a sovereign country. give me a break. so i said keep the oil. i said it on your show every time you gave me a chance to say it. now they have the oil and that's the story. we made it possible for them because we are very, very stupid. we have very, very foolish or stupid or nigh each -- i don't know what the word would be, but it's one of those three -- leaders. maybe all three combined. but keep the oil. we went in there, to the victor belong the spoils. and keep the oil and i said it over and over again and now they're taking the oil and they're going to be nice and rich and they already are nice and rich. >> we know this, they're selling it on the black market, undercutting the market, so people are buying it illicitly, which will make it harder to stop. now politics, big week last week for chris christie as a federal investigation revealed that he did not have anything to do with closing down the bridge in the george washington traffic problem when people were backed um and people that you knew were backed up, stuck on that bridge. he had nothing to do with it. they feasted on chris christie, everybody, especially a certain network two blocks away, for weeks, maybe even months. but they didn't really even bother covering his exoneration. >> first of all, it's a good step for chris. it's a big step. it's a very positive thing. but i saw it the other day. i was reading the paper like on a saturday and i saw this little article back on page 22 that this had happened and i said wow, what a difference. it was front page news all over the place and then when they find out what they found out, and i don't know that they've actually announced it from the federal standpoint. but it seems to be out there and certainly it was not covered very big, which is not a very fair situation. >> they covered almost 90 minutes, an hour and a half there in the first few days. >> it was a very small story and a lot of people think that was unfair. >> they were just trying to destroy him so he would not be the guy who squares off against hillary clinton. now it looks like he's got the green light. a lot of people who would like help from donald trump have been coming to you over the last couple of weeks. tell us a little bit about who you're hosting over there. >> i do. i have a lot of people that want to run for office or are running for office. i've had a great track record. i do a lot of robo calls. they don't even want money. they say, my robo is listened to more than anybody else's robo, meaning people don't just hang up the phone. sort of interesting. but a lot of people, mitch mcconnell is coming up today who i've been supporting. i think it's very important because they have to take -- you have to take back the senate. you have to end obamacare. you have to just absolutely take back the senate and you have to do it quickly. this is the one opportunity. i think the republicans are going to do very well. but the mitch mcconnell race is very important and if i were in kentucky, i can tell you, with all of mitch's tenure and all of the money he brings back to kentucky, i heard one person saying, oh, it's unfair to bring so much money back to kentucky of the well, i wish we had that in new york. i wish we had that elsewhere because frankly, if i'm in kentucky, i love all the money coming back into kentucky. but he gets that because of his power and because of his tenure. it would be very, very foolish to give that up if you're from kentucky. i think he's going to do fine. >> senator scott brown a lot of people thought was a long shot. now is neck and neck in many poll. >> he wants support. scott brown is coming up to see me. a lot of people come up to see me. my record, as you know, is very unbleepished. mitt romney, he had six states that he was losing and i did some phone calls and i did some robo calls and all of those six states he -- this was in the primary -- all of those six states he won. so a lot of people know that and they found out -- even turner when he ran for congress, if you remember the first time, when he ran for elliott, whatever. >> wiener. >> wiener. he ran against a democrat. he had no chance. he was down ten points. i did a robo and he ended up winning and he said a speech and he said i want to thank donald trump. he won in wiener's territory, which is impossible practically for a republican. so they come up to see me and if i can help and if i like the people and if i believe in the people, i will take the time and do what i have to do. >> of course, if the people out there would like to follow you on twitter, you got hundreds of thousands. he is at realdonaldtrump. >> that's right. thanks very much. >> thank you very much. >> see you next monday. coming up, breaking news from the case of that missing university of virginia student, hannah graham. how her case could be tied to the disappearances of other women. that's coming up. and leonardo dicaprio wanted to get the word out to end climate change. just one little problem, he forgot about his yacht. ♪ ♪ know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc 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>> thanks. it's happening in cities all across the country. potentially deadly virus infecting dogs who play with other dogs am and this could involve you and your pet. dozens are dead, countless others are sick. mark is the vice president and chief of medical staff at north shore animal league and is here to discuss it. welcome. >> thank you. >> we brought the same stunt puppies from earlier in the show here. playing the role of very frisky dogs. so these are fun dogs, but what happens if these dogs aren't vaccinated and what is happening to these other dogs? >> parvo is not a new virus. it's been around for 40-plus years. we treat it quite a bit at north shore animal league. the challenge is lately we've seen more cases in the owned community. this is typically a problem of unvaccinated young puppies and we're seeing more older dogs getting the disease. >> they start vomiting and sick. you got to act quickly because they have it. once they have it, can you stop it? >> yes. with aggressive treatment, survival rates can be upwards of 90%. the problem is it takes a long period of time in the hospital and it's a lot of money. >> how do they get it? >> honestly, it's shed in the stool of infected animals and others can get it by sniffing or licking the stool, or stepping in it and grooming themselves. >> and then can it go from dog to dog? >> it's very, very contagious. especially in a closed environment where they're dog. >> we asked to you give us points how to stop it. here we go. vaccination, 100% effective. get your dog down there. >> it's nearly 100% effective. the most important thing with vaccination is keeping up with the vaccine protocols which your vet recommends. >> right. you got to continue it and go all the way with the puppies, right? >> exactly. requires boosters every one to three years. >> and there you go. so here we have these things happening if your dog is getting sick, you got to act quickly and now you're seeing it more and more because people perhaps are look to cut costs and thinking, my dog is fine. do we really have to spend a few hundred dollars on vaccinations that he probably doesn't need? >> that's a valid point. but it's a drop in the bucket compared to what the cost of treating the disease if your dog were to get it. >> just for the record, these puppies on twice, we have to double their fee. this is going to damage our budget. and i believe this one started it. there we go. now watch how calm they get. it worked. doctor, thanks so much. >> thanks. coming up, a major development in the search for a cop killer. the clue they just found that has police closing in fast. and get this, maybe you thought about doing this in your life. quitting your job. but how about doing it live on television? 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tomorrow. tomorrow is full of promise. we can come back tomorrrow. and we promise to keep it that way. csx. how tomorrow moves. what a day. can't wait til tomorrow. fox news alert now. a break in the search for an accused cop killer still on the run. now cops revealing they found a suspect's weapon stashed in the woods. >> wtxf reporter steve keely is live in pennsylvania with the developing details. good morning to you. what do we know at this point? >> reporter: well, we don't know anything new at this point. we just know that it's day ten for the newest man and member of the f.b.i.'s ten most wanted and it's been rainy, raw and real cold all night. rougher conditions for the first time for this slow and so far safe search as the hunt for the man who made this most wanted list is still out here in the woods for a tenth day. despite erroneous reports of a shootout friday night and police having pin add specific house, police said in their latest update, they have not had any contact with him. but she showed off these pictures of an assault rifle and ammo magazines that they believe he stashed for possible later use. since they all believe he had two high powered rifles with him, he likely has the other one with a sniper scope that he likely used to shoot the troopers ten days ago and one that they can likely fire from far away with deadly accuracy, making the search for him one where agents, troopers have to watch every step they're taking, over 250 miles of mountains and thick woods here. >> we know that frien prepared and planned extensively for months and maybe years. he planned his attack and his retreat. however, we believe we are closing in on him. >> while they think he was watching that trooper barracks for many months before he fired those fatal shots that killed the one trooper and critically wounded the other. as far as life goes here back to normal, not quite. schools are still closed up here. they did lift the ban on telling everybody to shelter in place and stay in their houses. they're saying if you have to go out, go about your normal lives, but if you don't have to go out, stay in as much as you can. don't go out in the woods. bow hunting season started here today. they said try to put off your hunting plans today and stay inside. even if it's daylight like right now, keep your doors locked. >> all right. steve keely where they're looking for eric frein wanted in connection with the murder of a trooper. >> specific warning to those in the area. now we'll turn to heather childers who has some headlines for us. >> yes. we begin with this. following two serious security incidents. the white house is beefing up security. this is the man who jumped the fence and got inside, has his day in court. omar gonzalez hopped the front fences, bolted right across the lawn friday evening. when secret service agents stopped him, they found that he was armed with a 3 1/2 inch knife. the iraq veteran's family claims that he suffers from ptsd and he would never hurt anyone. gonzalez faces up to ten years in prison. a stunning new development, a reporter to tell you about. top level officials are leaving the department of homeland security at alarming rates and it could be putting our security at risk. the report found that employees have left dhs twice as fast as the rest of the government in the past four years. some of the reasons? they say dysfunctional work environment, low morale, private contractors are offering more money to work for them. here in new york city, hundreds of thousands of activists spent the weekend marching for climate change, including actor leonardo dicaprio. leo went from green to an angry red when reporters began to question him about his personal habits. fox news contributor michelle fields tweeting this photo after asking him about his personal jets and yacht. yes, that one. nearly 500 feet, $500 million, this is the yacht that leo took to this year's world cup and you can't exactly call that environmentally friendly. not really. and making an entrance, right, and then there is making an exit. one tv reporter in alaska showing us the difference when she quits on live television. >> and as for this job, well, not that i have a choice but [ bleep ], i quit. >> okay. former ktva reporter reporting on the local cannabis story when she revealed she's the club's owner. yes. it gets more bizarre. she will be dedicating all her time to legalizing pot in alaska >> i thought i had some rough talking. how do you as an anchor pick up after that? start advertising for a job. just go okay, there will be a weather position. >> thanks, heather. now, maria molina is welcoming the first day of fall which happens tonight after dark, doesn't it? >> yes, that's right, 10:29 is the first official time of fall and the official start of that hit series "gotham," 8:00 p.m. eastern time on of course. i have a bunch of my friends with me. they're all dressed alike, the characters, the penguin from "batman." we're all here to kick off the premiere of gothham city coming up at 8:00 p.m. eastern time on fox. they all brought their umbrellas. we don't need them today in new york city, but we do have them here. hey, guys. good morning. let's go ahead and take a look at the weather conditions across the country because we are going to need those umbrellas through some parts of the country, especially across the southeastern united states and in parts of florida. that's what we're going to be looking at. showers and storms also possible across parts of new mexico, colorado, and also western texas. we're already seeing them early this morning. temperature wise, you're at 50 degrees in minneapolis. 46 in chicago. 52 in cleveland. it's already feeling like fall out there. take a look at those highs. well below average. you're ohm going to be in the 50s in cleveland and upper 60s in chicago. texas, always on the hot side. 80s and 90s widespread there. and tonight kicks off the official start of fall at 10:29 p.m. eastern time. let's head back inside. i have my friends here, the penguin look alike. >> the whole gotham thing takes place in new york city. did we shoot it there? >> what town is that? >> manhattan? >> it surely looks like it. >> i don't know where it was shot. do any of you know where "gotham" was shot? it was shot in new york city. confirmation. >> there you go. >> authenticity right there. almost 100,000 twitter followers does gothham have. >> mark, could we look at that shot again? are they still standing up there with -- can you have ted pull out a little? see, when maria put up the t, it spelled gothham. but for a while the message was go ham. >> not enough people are supporting ham. >> all right. go ham. >> lots of fans out there. >> i wonder if we gave them a few minutes how many different words they could come up with. umbrella scramble. coming up, an amazing show of courage from complete strangers. >> oh, my god! look at that! look at that! oh, my god! yes! >> one of the men who jumped in to save a life is here with us this morning. and can you name all three branches of government? well, should you have to be able to in order to vote? 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if you said the bill of rights, you got it right. most people didn't. only 4% of students born and raised in the united states got that correct and only a third of americans can name the three branches of government. that's why here to take on a new requirement for students, people are looking into passing a citizenship test before they actually get a diploma. we're going to take that one step further. do they need it to graduate or vote? joining me, spokeswoman for the bill of rights institute and a group working to pass this rule in utah. thanks for being with us this morning here. whitney, should this citizenship test, should it be required to graduate high school? >> i think civics education is a huge important issue. but i think requiring a test to measure if we've actually improved civic knowledge is a band-aid. it doesn't address the problem. we're in the middle of learning that standardized testing is limiting some children from achieving their full potential and we want to add another test as a measurement mechanism? i think we're missing the root of the problem here. engaging kids with civics and with government rather than giving them another arbitrary test. >> okay. so i'll let you respond to that. you came here, emigrated from chile in the '80s. what do you say? >> i think we need to do everything that we can to engage our new generation of students so they can be involved in civics. i think it's human nature not to study, not to learn, if we can put it away. i think if you ask them to complete a test, it will create an incredible conversation among family members. i think it's a good step. >> what about if we took it one step further as i just mentioned into voting? should you have to answer -- i mean, the majority of these questions, if not by graduation of high school, but by the time you vote? whitney? >> i mean, i know a lot of people that probably could get a perfect score on their driving test, but put them hyped the wheel and -- behind the wheel and it doesn't mean they're a good driver. we need to go back and look at the basis of this problem. have we made civics education a priority in the classroom? have we equipped teach tore engage kids in the topic. i teach aide grade, they were debating the constitutionality about obamacare and that taught me so much more about what they could do and more from a pen and paper test. >> should it be required? >> i think personally that anything that you can do to insure that our young people, our families are involved in civic learning, the history of our country is a positive. furthermore, how can you go into planning what the generation will do in the future if you're not prepared and understand where we have been? personally i've taken my daughters to voting with me and i think it's critical. you can not be engaged without having the full knowledge and understanding of your nation. >> more meaningful measure when you vote perhaps. so some test examples here, who is in charge of the executive branch, when you look at the number of answers right, it's disheartening. the house of representatives has how many voting members? the answer is 435. who wrote the declaration of independence? thomas jefferson is the answer in case you're wondering at home. but when you look at how many people get those answers wrong, how concerning is it to you that those very people are voting? >> well, personally, that's why i think it's so critical that we begin this conversation. i think this is the step -- one step in the right direction. that's why we're asking local government, local state to decide what they want to do with this. and obviously -- i wouldn't begin to understand how we could be engaged citizens and voting if we don't know the history, how our government works, and i think this is something very important for all of us as americans. >> we want to know what everyone thinks out there who is watching right now at "fox & friends." we want to thank our guests for joining us today for this very civilized debate. thanks. >> thank you. >> shoot us an e-mail, facebook, twitter on what you think about that, civics test required to vote. coming up, what really happens to your credit card after it gets stolen. curt the cyber guy knows. it will hurt and he's going to tell you why. first on this date in history in 1996, the macarena was the number one song in america and all of our hands were moving from our heads to our waist to our hips. ♪ ♪ [music] ♪ jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. ♪ ♪ "here i am. rock you like a hurricane." ♪ fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. know that chasing performance and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. time for answer to the trivia question. the answer andrea buccelli, 56. our winner is warren from freeland, washington. you'll get a copy of "george washington's secret six." i will sign it and send it. now time for your news by the numbers. 10,883. that's the average price of a used car making it a great time to buy one. but you won't get as much as you want for the trade-in. leases will be more expensive because of the resale value. good news, bad news, bad news story. next, 422 million miles in ten months. that's how long the journey was for nasa's mason spacecraft as it successfully reached mars' orbit. over the next year, it will study the red planet's upper atmosphere. at least it said it would when we sent them. and finally, 20 years. that's how long it's been since "friends" first hit the air waves. here is a fun fact, joey and chandler's big white dog actually belonged to jennifer aniston. wow. a friend gave it to her as good luck gift. i feel like i'm freelancing on this story. free association. that's all i got. steve, sorry. i should have given that time to you. >> all right. 56 million credit card numbers now out in the open after hackers broke into the computer systems at home depot. they had unprecedented access for nearly six months to the numbers. was your card exposed? here is how to find out. we're joined by cyber guy curt nixon. good morning. >> good morning. we were amongst the first to report that this sort of credit card breach is not just reserved for home depot or target, as you recall, as 40 million people lost their credit card information there. this is a big event that's happening. federal government reporting that about 1,000 retailers at this point will eventually be coming forward saying this kind of intrusion is happening on the payment system of these retailers all over the place. what does it mean to you and me? the fact is, our numbers are now out there in the greatest amounts that they ever have been. more cyber criminals will be going after our numbers. they'll be trying to get them from various methods. what i want to share with you is what in the heck they do with all this once they get our numbers. take a look at this. when they get our credit card numbers, whether they get them from the retailers or not, they add them to a collection of a bunch of numbers. they make more money when they can show that they have a lot of credit card numbers that work. that's why they'll go use them at on line stores to see a, if they work, and b, don't trio buy items easily refundable so they can use them for cash. that's part of using your credit card to find out if it works. they'll buy things, sell them right away, and then what they do to put a price tag on these cards is pretty incredible. they will go after they make sure that the card works, they will add a bunch of additional information to attach to the cards. so they'll try to find out that ddress or your wife's name, or where you like to shop a lot. that information now raises the price in value of your own credit card that's out there. if they get a group of 1,000 of those, now they're really rolling in it. so here is what you want to do. here is what they're doing. they make sure that the cards work. they go after and see what else they can find out about you. then they look at your behavior on the card. and they'll try to find out, are you shopping the most in dayton, ohio? are you mostly in another city? when they can find that out, that card is worth a lot more money to them. now, what are stores supposed to be doing to protect you and me, right? well, there is not a lot they can do at this moment because their systems have been breached. but what they need to know is hey, has it been breached and they need to start securing access to their own payment system. they need to start sealing off the openings to them. employees have easy access to stores and corporate accounts of companies they work for. they need to train their employees to spot suspicious e-mails, and then they need to practice these sort of fire drills when it comes to their security, as if a credit card disaster has happened inside of their company. that's how they could actually get it to work. but what you and i can do is incredible, which is we can stop using a card the moment we think it's been compromised. call the company and say you want a new one. there is a new app out that's totally free that will allow you to monitor your credit card transactions and what it will do, it's in testing phase right now -- you're traveling around with your phone and you're spending. when it notices you're away from your phone, it will alert you. it's called bill guard. you'll find it at www.foxandfriends.com. >> i'm going to download it. >> sign up for my newsletter that's there as well. >> i'll go on line and do that. thank you. straight ahead, a big development in the irs scandal. lois lerner just sat down for a first interview since the scandal and what she is saying is going to tick you off. bret baier live from washington with the details ok who woh, i do!t rolls? 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>> oh, my god! look at that! look at that! oh, my god! yes! >> one of the men who jumped in head first joins us live. because your mornings are better with friends. hi, everybody. welcome to "fox & friends" on the first day of fall. it will kick in tonight about 10:30 at night. bret baier joins us every monday in the 8:00 o'clock hour and there he is from our nation's capitol. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> just within the last half hour, politico has posted on their web site an exclusive interview with lois lerner. first of all, it says she's not sorry for anything she did. she didn't do anything wrong. what's interesting, though, is she's saying that employers won't hire her. she'd like to go to work to make money to pay for her gigantic lawyer bill. why on earth, if she's not going to talk to congress, is she talking to politico? >> pretty interesting. the piece itself is very lengthy. it is detailed in a defense of her as a person. it's not really detailed as a defense of her actions or explaining exactly the e-mail trails back and forth. only to say that she and her legal team believe that the republicans have cherry picked some of these e-mails to release to the press. >> it's easy to cherry pick when you delete half of them. >> yeah. she says that that was not her exploding her computer and why would she only destroy some of them. it's a pretty amazing read in that it's a defense. i mean, down to she brought brownies and lottery tickets in for her office staff 'cause she was such a good person. i think it's striking. >> it is. 43 days to go until the mid terms. a lot of people raising brow at that, from pleading the fifth to raising politico. she says, quote, i didn't do anything wrong. i'm proud of my career and the job that i did for this country, regardless of what ever else happens, i know i did the best i could under the circumstances and i'm not sorry for anything i did. wow. >> yeah. just remember the context here. this is the person who leaked the actual what was happening with the irs, this whole thing at a conference. she planted a question and then answered it, not telling congress before that and congress had asked multiple times for these specific answers. so this actually very lengthy article does not give us a lot more details on the substance. >> here is another excerpt from that article and i want to get you to comment. why she believes she was the center of the scandal to begin with. she says, quote, i was the person who announced it. i assumed the other part of it is because i declined to talk. once i declined to talk, they could say anything they wanted. how dare they. that's my input. and they knew i couldn't say anything back. as if it's our fault she declined to talk! >> yeah. i'll also point out that republicans said when she went to congress, she had a lengthy defense before she took the fifth. they said that that really wasn't technically accurate for her not to answer questions after making that defense. she's making a defense here in broad swipes, but not really on the substance of all of the allegations. >> yeah. there were two juicy tidbits. one of them, it says after she took the fifth, she was called in to hr and she told, you're going to resign right now. and she said, i'm not going to quit. and then she walked out. then she retired. now she's making $100,000 a year and she would like to help her husband pay for her legal defense, which it's lengthy. that's one juicy tidbit. the other thing is, before she was a lawyer for the irs, she was a dental hygienist! who knew? >> who knew? these are the kind of details we're getting. i think the other interesting thing is that she feels pressured from all of these outside groups. she says she's been threatened and that she doesn't really have a life anymore. i think that this paints a picture of a sad character, but one in which has not really answered all of the questions put to her by congress. >> none of them. let's talk about another former president obama appointee that is writing a book and is very critical of some major decisions the president has made. his name is leon panetta. here is an excerpt as he talked about the opportunity we had to arm the free syrian army that we chose not to. but if they listened to him, we would have. listen. >> the real key was how can we develop a started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was we have to begin somewhere. i think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> bret? >> yeah. that's significant for the former c.i.a. director, former defense secretary to say that. it tracks with what we saw in hillary clinton's book about the effort to push the president on training and arming the syrian rebels when we knew a lot more of the groups and the moderates. there you see the other leaders who have -- they've spoken out, them, hillary clinton and leon panetta being most appointed. but david petraeus and general dempsey also saying things about the early days of funding and training those syrian rebel groups. >> those are heavy hitters there when you see dempsey, petraeus, clienten, panetta. then when you hear this, and we're going to play a clip now and i'm sure you know it, king of jordan says this all could have been prevented, it will send chills through your spine. >> could the rise of isis have been prevented? >> they could have been prevented if the international community worked harder together to make sure that funding the support to the original groups in syria were not allowed to get to the extent that they were. >> the international community, the united states intervened too late? >> i think we could have done a better job in making sure that earlier on it was identified who the bad people were and action by the international community was taken not to allow that to happen. >> bret, last night "60 minutes" was highly critical of the way the president of the united states has done with isis. >> it was very critical. the way it's portrayed is his national security team really pushed him and he pushed back. now, there will be defense that says those syrian rebels weren't ready to receive those weapons. they weren't -- and they could have fallen into the wrong hands, et cetera, et cetera. there are republicans on capitol hill who had similar reservations. but his national security team in that moment is saying you have to get in the game here to affect the outcome and the fact that you see the king saying the international community, i mean, clearly he means the u.s. >> right. he also just keep in mind, who isn't in that shot? vice president joe biden, and valerie jarrett. so i guess maybe those two had more weight than the other five, six, seven or eight. >> yeah. we don't know the discussions behind closed doors. but we do know that the president listens to them greatly, especially on foreign policy matters. >> sure does. bret baier will be on 6:00 p.m. eastern time with "special report" live from d.c thank you very much for taking a little bit of your day. >> have a good day. it's ten minutes after the top of the hour. heather inaugurate is off, but we got heather childers. >> i have the latest. we have some breaking developments to tell you about. a manhunt underway right now for three afghan soldiers who vanished right here in the united states. a major and two captains arrived at a military base in massachusetts on september 11 for training program. we just found out that they went missing during a trip to a shopping mall in cape cod. >> each hour that goes by it gets a little more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody, as time goes on, it gets more concerning. the other thing is were they victims of some type of violent act? so hopefully they've extended their weekend and they show up. >> the military insists that the men were fully vetted and do not pose a threat to the public. we will have a live report on all of this from cape cod. that's coming up in 30 minutes. closing in on a cop killer, a huge break in the search for suspect eric frien. an assault rifle was just found stashed in the woods in pennsylvania and it is believed to belong to him. police say he was planning the ambush for months, maybe years. he seriously injured one state trooper and murdered another. people in the pocono, you're being told to stay inside and lock your doors. security at the white house beefed up this morning after two serious security incidents. did you hear about this? in one of them, the man actually got inside. omar gonzalez hopped the front fences and then bolted across the lawn. when secret service agents stopped him, they found he was armed with a knife. the iraq veteran's family claims he suffers from ptsd. he will face a judge today. and finally, can you see it in there? that is no house cat, brian. take a look. the video is a mountain lion running through a suburban neighborhood in salt lake city. officers shot it with a tranquilizer. that didn't do too much good. it ran for more than a mile before being caught. >> never growled. never postured, aggressive posturing. it just wanted to run away. yes, it's very capable of going over six and eight-foot fences. it covered a lot of ground. >> he just wanted to run away. look at that. the lion found under a trailer, he will be relocated to a more rural area. that's probably a better thing. >> that's the way "wild kingdom" used to do it. knock them out and move them. >> i don't remember "wild kingdom" being in salt lake city. >> true. but they have to travel. marlin perkins would sit in the studio and let everybody do the hard work. >> brilliant. >> that followed disney. that was at 7:30 and disney special would be on right after, wouldn't it? >> it was syndicated, so it was on at different times throughout the country. >> my world is everybody else's world. is that wrong? 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>> let us know. how far would you go to save the life of a complete stranger? >> look at that! oh, my god, yes ! i'm a doctor of internal medicine with something terrible to admit. i treated thousands of patients, risked their lives, while high on prescription drugs. i was an addict. i'm recovered now, but an estimated 500,000 medical professionals are still out there, abusing drugs or alcohol. police, airline pilots, bus drivers... they're randomly tested for drugs and alcohol... but not us doctors. you can change that: vote yes on proposition 46. your lives are in our hands. breaking overnight. back to emergency landings at the dallas airport. two american airplanes packed with people had technical issues within moments of each other. one on the way to fresno, california. the other flying to buenos aires. problems with cabin pressure. they returned safely to dallas two minutes apart. in delaware a second person died when a tour bus flipped over. police say the driver was trying take a curve on a steep offramp. the bus was heading back to washington, d.c 48 people were hurt. and five extremely dangerous inmates who escaped a california prison are back behind bars. police say they got out by breaking a window. those guys are resourceful. they were in jail on charges ranging from armed robbery to attempted murder. elisabeth? >> thanks, brian. a group of highway heros being applauded this morning, rightfully so, for saving the lives of three teen-agers after their suv plunged into a ravine. >> oh, my god! look at that! look at that! oh, my god! yes! >> remarkable what you're seeing right here. it happened last week in salt lake city. the first man to jump in and encourage those others to get in and help out is leo montoya who joins us now with his story. leo, good morning. i'm saying it's good to see you. but i have a feeling everybody there was pretty happy to see you after what we looked at in that video. describe to us how you knew something was wrong. i know you were on your bike. >> yes. i heard the explosion or the wreck and when i got to the bridge, everybody was looking into the water, but nobody was doing anything. and i knew that i -- i heard there was children in the vehicle. so i immediately jumped in and tried to get them out and realized that was a futile effort. just convinced everybody that was watching on the bridge to get in there immediately and flip this vehicle. that was the only way the kids were going to live. >> it's incredible the thinking and the action you took. when you realized it was futile, your first attempt, what did you find? why did you need everyone to start flipping the vehicle? because you dove underneath the water. what did you find? >> i thought i was on the driver's side and it didn't dawn on me until i had opened the door that there was no steering wheel. i couldn't feel nobody in the front. so the second time i went in, i felt a person's head in the back seat and i came back out to get a knife because they had the belt strap on them. that's going to take a long time just to get a knife. so when looking up and seeing all the people on the bridge, i realized, hey, we got enough people here, we can flip this truck over and get them so they can start breathing or at least get help to them. >> so you in that split second, i mean, saved his life. did you think you'd be a i believe to get enough people to actually do the work? that's a huge vehicle to get right side up again. >> i really did think that we could do it. i kind of went a little bit crazy and was screaming quite a bit. but there was enough team and i knew we could do it. >> you certainly took charge there. the teen that you got out, he made it okay? >> i hear that there was three people in the vehicle and all three of them came out okay and they're just fine right now. >> my goodness. once that happened, so many people jumped in and did the right thing under your direction. you were a true corporal, we'll call you in this safety and rescue. what did you all say to each other, leo? >> it was just thank you. i was just thanking everybody for helping and right now i'd like to say thank you for all the people that jumped in that water and made the difference. i want to say thank you to marcine stevens from the eye care for kids, stepped up and gave me some glasses. i'm unemployed at this time. so that was a really big help for me. she replaced the glasses that i had lost when jumping in the water. >> wow. a big gift from her as you offered one to so many. you're a locksmith. correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. you know what? you unlocked a whole new set of days for the boys in that car. we always say better with friends here at "fox & friends." i'd say #betterwithleo. you're a hero and we wish you well. we have a feeling you'll have a great job ahead of you. >> thank you so much. >> thanks. coming up, a developing story overnight, three afghan soldiers here in america for training vanished without a trace. do we need to be worried? 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>> reporter: good morning. the search for those are in full force. we know they have been missing since saturday. but right now officials with the national guard are sort of down playing this, saying at this point, there is no indication that these three pose any threat to the public. but we do know that all three of them are members of the afghan national army and we're told that one of them is a major and two of them are captains. we know that they got here on september 11 for a training program hosted by the massachusetts national guard and the u.s. central command. 200 soldiers from six different countries are taking part in it, including the u.s. the goal of this exercise is apparently to promote cooperation among the countries and prepare them for international events. the director of public affairs for joint base cape cod tells us that the visiting soldiers are not required to stay on base and he says they were last seen at the cape cod mall in hyannis, massachusetts. as of this morning, still no word on where they may be or what may have happened to them. but here is international law enforcement and security consultant dan, formerly of the boston police department, with his take on the situation. >> each hour that goes by it gets more concerning. finding out why you can't get in touch with them, why they haven't reached out to somebody. as time gets on, it gets more concerning. the other thing is were they victims of some type of violent act. so hopefully they extended their weekend and at some point will show up tonight or be found by folks. >> reporter: as you just heard, concern growing with every hour that these three are missing. but ofcials are the base are saying that at this point, there is no indication that these three pose any threat to the public. even so, the search is on in full force this morning and includes law enforcement agencies at the local, state and federal level, including the f.b.i that's the latest. jessica reyes, back to you. >> thank you very much. live report from cape cod. i bet they just don't want to go back to afghanistan. >> compare cape cod to afghanistan. the other thing is, i like to talk to some of the soldiers training them and find out, did they profile those people set to bug out and cause a ruckus? >> maybe people in the mall have more information about the last purchases. >> i just wouldn't think you would be allowed to. if you're training at a cape cod base, stay in cape cod. if not, you're going to be escorted. wouldn't you think? >> i think when you're posted somewhere, you get time off. you can't stay on base all the time. they're look for them. so keep an eye out. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. heather has some headlines. >> from people wanting to stay here to some wanting to leave, isis in need of women. the terror group using social media to recruit females to marry their fighters and have children. we recently learned of two austerian teenage girls heading over and they're reportedly pregnant. the group's postings telling women they will, quote, have kids and cook. some isis fighters claiming ten to 20 women arrive daily. a stunning new report, top level officials are leaving the department of homeland security at alarming rates and it could be putting our security at risk. the report found employees have left dhs twice as fast as the rest of the government in the past four years. some of the reasons, a dysfunctional work environment and low morale. plus they say private contractors are offering them more money. a drag racer is lucky to be alive this morning after this insane crash. look. >> oh, my god. >> yeah. the driver, by the way, thrown right through the windshield. you can see his legs sticking out of that windshield. but he was able to walk away, walk out of the car. >> really? >> yeah. that's him. lucky, lucky. one missouri judge is fed up with law breakers, disrespecting the court. instead of sending them to jail, he is sending repeat offenders to the corner of shame. here is how the judge explained it right here on "fox & friends." >> this isn't a laughing matter. i mean, it's very serious. without judicial orders being followed, the law is only words. it's my responsibility to make sure that people not only respect, but follow court's orders. >> the judge has gotten mixed reactions. the most seem more willing to wear the sign than go to jail. and we have some viewer response to that. >> is that true, we have viewer response? >> linda said this punishment looks too easy. i say make them do public work and not something menial. >> 'cause he's smile. >> german writes, shame and public humiliation is a powerful motivator. this may be more effective than jail. >> wow. >> so many people wouldn't show up for their court dates, they wouldn't pay the fine. he didn't want to put them in jail. so this seemed to him like a better solution. >> one woman who has never been punished 'cause she's never done anything wrong, maria molina who is outside. and she says it's fall. >> 10:00 o'clock tonight, start raking. >> it will kick off at 10:29 p.m but because it's the start of fall, i have some fall trivia for you. are you ready? we have a nice trivia question coming up for you guys. that question is: why do leaves change color in the fall? is it because a, it is colder. b, there is less light. c, there is less in, or d, because the trees are dying. which answer do you think is correct. >> what was the first one? >> because it's colder. >> let's poll the audience. >> 'cause there is less rain or because the trees are dying? what do you guys think is right? >> i'm going with less light. >> sure. >> i'm going to say because they're dying. >> the correct answer is b, because there is less light. i'm sorry, brian. >> wow. i thought all the trees are dying. >> no. good to see you guys. >> that's so sad. thanks, maria. >> weather across the country, relatively country. showers and storms across the southeast and rockies and those temperatures already feeling like fall across parts of the great lakes in the midwest. early this morning in the 40s and 50s out there. the highs in cleveland only going to make it into the 50s. look at texas, always feeling like summer out there. 90s and 80s widespread. let's head over to brian. >> thank you very much. you want to hear what happened in the games yesterday. monday morning means nfl highlights. in a rematch of last year's super bowl, the denver broncos trying to get revenge. tying it up before the end of regulation. they lose the toss. and then seattle would have a masterful 80-yard drive and win at home. the broncos do not get revenge. what do you do after a football game? shed of the seattle seahawks was asking his girlfriend to marry him after a win against the broncos. he changed out of his uniform, into a dress shirt 'cause she demanded it. he kneeled down mid field and popped the question. >> wow. >> she said yes. he then posted the picture on instagram, got a lot of likes. >> good thing. victory there for the guy. and the girl. because i missed that first game. coming up straight ahead, somebody else read. i'm exhausted. >> it's a new idea to jump start our economy. have the government start handing out free cash? we're serious. peter johnson, jr. is on that next. that's right. and his mission to protect and serve, that's exactly what he did to save this beloved mascot, a sleeping colleague, dog and master join us live. move over, number 7, right into a brick wall musical chairs. fun, right? welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. that's their game. the flights you want are blacked out. or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles. honestly, it's time to switch to the venture card from capital one. with venture, use your miles on any airline, any flight, any time. no blackout dates. and with every purchase, you'll earn unlimited double miles. from now on, no one's taking your seat away. what's in your wallet? 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on this sunday night, nuclear deal. a historic agreement is reached with iran that president obama says will make the world more secure. >> for the first time in nearly a decade we have halted the progress of the iranian nuclear program. also the fallout as others in the region question whether iran will live up to its end of the bargain. massive storms, snow and ice take a deadly toll in the southwest. tonight it is on the move and threatening to disrupt holiday traffic for tens of millions. tis the season to shop. as retailers lure you in earlier and earlier, are the deepest discounts yet to come? and special bond. the young boy with autism and his dog. how they rescued each other and are making a difference with their message. >> good evening. with an historic multinational agreement, the united states and iran today stepped away from the edge after a long and dangerous game of brinkmanship over iran's nuclear ambitions. tonight not everyone is feeling safer or breathing easier. the deal announce in the geneva early sunday requires iran to halt the production of high grade uranium. the stuff essential to making a nuclear weapon in exchange for the easing of nuclear sanctions. while supporters of the deal say it removes the threat of armed conflict in the region, there are some pretty loud and influential voices from washington to the middle east that are calling this agreement an historic mistake. our team is in place to cover all sides. we begin with our chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. good evening. >> good evening. the administration hopes this is a landmark agreement that will lead to a more sweeping deal six months from now but it is already being criticized by israel and saudi arabia along with some of the president's closest allies on capitol hill. the secretary of state arriving in london today only hours after round-the-clock talks finally produced a deal between the world powers and iran. at 3:00 in the morning in geneva. >> now really hard part begins. that is the effort to get the comprehensive agreement which will require enormous steps in terms of verification, transparency, and accountability. >> reporter: after being briefed, the president, in an unusual late saturday night speech, defended testing iran's intentions. >> the bur is on iran to prove to the world that its nuclear program will be exclusively for peaceful purposes. >> reporter: the agreement freezes iran's nuclear program for six months and rolls it back in key areas. iran can still enrich uranium but at levels well below what would be needed to produce a weapon. iran would reduce its highly enriched stockpile, stopping centrifuges, stop building a plutonium reactionor and allow daily inspections. in return the white house gets what it calls modest sanctions releex $6 to $7 billion from some of its accounts. the sanctions barring iran from international banking and the embargo on its oil exports continue for now but the agreement has united arab states like saudi arabia and israel who say iran cnot be trusted. prime minister netanyahu condemned the deal. >> this agreement has made the world a much more dangerous place. >> reporter: president obama called netanyahu today but the two leaders disagree on the threat and the goal. obama pledges to stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon. netanyahu wants to stop iran from even having the capability to produce one and many in congress agree with israel. >> we're accepting a signal to iran that they can continue to go ahead and by talking and acting like they have good will, can get away with at least nuclear weapon production capability. >> reporter: the geneva agreement came together only two months after president obama first talked to iran's president rouhani on the phone. but in fact top u.s. officials have been meeting secretly with iran for a year in the persian gulf country of oman laying the groundwork. >> if this interim deal does ultimately translate into a comprehensive deal that eliminates the iranian nuclear program to the middle east, that's an enormous victory for america's global victory. >> reporter: president obama tried to reassure israel's leader that he will be consulted on every aspect of any final deal with iran but israel's worry is that the president is too eager for an agreement and not driving a hard enough bargain with tehran. >> thank you. now more on the deal from iran's perspective. on the streets of tehran today, celebrations. people waved flags and flowers and cheered the chief negotiator as an ambassador of peace. after the agreement was announced, ann curry spoke exclusively with the iranian foreign minister and joins us from geneva tonight. >> reporter: good evening. nuclear negotiations just don't get any more dramatic than this. it was the end of four days of grueling negotiations. iran agreed to roll back its nuclear program. the six other nations to relax some sanctions. the negotiators were exhausted and very aware that the ambiguous wording that got them to this moment would trigger fallout. john kerry's take on the right to enrich uranium. >> this first step, let me be clear, this first step does not say that iran has a right to enrichment. no matter what interpretive comments are made, it is not in this document. >> reporter: but listen to iran's foreign minister in our exclusive interview. do you dispute that in. >> it doesn't say in so many words but it says very clearly that iran will have an enrichment program and it has a right to technology for peaceful purposes. >> reporter: another sticking point, the heavy water plant that could someday produce plutonium for bombs. >> it is a program that is there. we will not and paneled it but it is a program that will continue. >> reporter: construction would continue. if congress imposes new sanctions, what will iran's reaction be? >> if there are new sanctions, there is no deed. end of the deed because of inability of one party to maintain its side of the bargain. >> reporter: end of the first step deal and all hopes for a final comprehensive agreement? >> well, i can only say that any new sanctions will be the end of the deal. >> reporter: congress has said it will take up sanctions in early december. if what they are calling a first step deal has been painful, there is one thing the u.s. and iran clearly agree on. and that is, negotiations toward a final agreement will be brutal. lester? >> ann curry tonight in general even. a let's bring in chief white house correspondent and political director chuck todd. are there any obstacles preventing the president from signing this deal? >> not actual obstacles but there are plenty of political obstacles. he will you go there with this deal and you heard plenty of lawmakers this morning, all through sunday shows, even ones very critical of this deal say, well, the deal has been made. there is not a lot that can be done for now. here's the way to look at it. congress is giving the president a very short leash. any iota of something that makes it look like iran is not doing what is supposed to be done in this deal and you will see new sanctions bill. you will see pressure from capitol hill like we haven't seen before. remember, support for israel is bipartisan on capitol hill. israel has a very powerful constituency on capitol hill so if there is any movement here that iran doesn't look like they're doing this deal, the political pressure on the president to back out will be tremendous. >> all right. chuck todd of the white house tonight. thank you. another major story we're following. a massive wintery storm blamed for at least 13 deaths in the northwest. the storm is expected to push east. we're getting messy travel on one of the busiest travel days of the year. >> reporter: in the southwest tonight, wicked winter weather that's dangerous and on the move. the powerful storm blanketing several states with heavy snow, steady rain, debilitating ice and high winds. in texas, icy roads turned i-20 near dallas into a skating rink. three killed here, 13 across the region. at dfw, more than 300 flights canceled. >> reporter: after hundreds of crashes to the west, dallas was ready as the storm moved in. 30 trucks dumped sand on city streets. >> reporter: the commute in oklahoma just as treacherous. too many spinouts and rollovers to tally. overnight, driving snow blinded much of the state. outside oklahoma city, 13 inches and counting. today in new mexico, frigid temperatures snapped power lines. the frozen interstate as 39 million americans are set to travel for the thanksgiving holiday. >> it is hard to keep control of your car. especially if you go under the bridges and stuff it whims you. >> reporter: this nordic outbreak, first claiming lives on thursday, hammered california with whipping winds. this weekend, the weather still fanning a blaze north of san francisco. from fire in california to snow in arizona. >> this is a weird storm. nobody has really been able to get a handle on it. >> reporter: even the nevada desert touted 15 inches of powder. >> we've had almost as much water content out of this one storm as we did most of last winter. >> reporter: the arctic blast is punishing the texas panhandle and it appears the east coast is next. miguel almaguer, los angeles. weather channel meteorologist kim cunning hax is tracking the store. what can we expect? >> it will be a mess. we're talking about this storm moving east and we'll look at the east coast. travelers, we want you to be aware of the situation. have alternate plans just in case. let's show you the radar. we're looking at some light precipitation where you see the pink, it is indicating a little sleet. maybe a little light, freezing rain trying to work its way to the ground. still very dry in that area. we expect that to and paneled. if you're in dallas overnight, we're expecting more freezing conditions. temperatures dropping in the 20s. we could see accumulating, maybe sleet. maybe a little freezing rain. your morning commute will be treacherous and likely to see freezing rain as well. anywhere in the purple, that's where travel will be a mess. we'll move east with this. in the southeast, we're too warm. we'll see an all rain event. watch what happens. tuesday during the afternoon hours, very heavy rain. three to five inches of rain across the southeast. this moves toward the mid-atlantic. did you notice all the blue that we're seeing? all the way through wednesday morning. that is snow. so we're going to start to see the snow pick up in the interior northeast, starting tomorrow. into wednesday during the afternoon hours. where the low is very critical, it is inland a little bit. that's good news for the megalopolis. it will be a warm event. meaning initially we'll start with all rain. it will cause some major travel problems at the airports but we'll see this. heavy snow interior sections. some of us could see up to ten inches of snow. >> we have been forewarned. thank you. now to afghanistan where hamid karzai stunned the u.s. and many officials by refusing to sign the security agreement reached with the u.s. that could keep thousands of american troops there for another decade or more. president karzai said he won't sign the agreement until after presidential elections in april. meantime, american troops still struggle to cope with the day to day realities in afghanistan. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel spent the last several days with the tenth mountain division and reports from forward operating base gamberi. >> reporter: it helps to be at a few thousand feet to appreciate how hard it has been to fight in gans. 12 years in these mountains. osama bin laden once had a house down there not far from tora bora. but times have changed. lieutenant colonel al boyer, tenth mountain division, is part of the new mission. he is an experientialed war man. seven deployments in iraq and here. today he is a diplomat of sorts visiting the afghan general. relations are more important than ever because afghans do most of the fighting now. but americans have been killed in meetings like this so u.s. troops need armed escorts. guardian angels like staff sergeant travis drudge from wa dbush, indiana. >> if they're not trustworthy, that he stay on guard. >> reporter: with a young son and a taught on the way, he is more cautious now than other deployments. >> you think more about your family, the wife, the kids, than just yourself. >> reporter: but most american troops don't leave their bases much anymore. they're trainers. the question is, how much longer will u.s. troops be doing this expensive mentoring mission? we asked afghan general waziri, a division commander in charge of 20,000 men. after welcoming with us the gift of a robe. he would not set a time limit because he still wants u.s. helicopters, satellites and money. lieutenant colonel boyer says more deployments may be needed to keep afghanistan stable. 12 years is a long time to be in afghanistan. we're looking at the prospect of more years to come. how do you explain that to the american people who aren't necessarily convinced we still need to be here? >> right. the thing i explained to the american public, staying the course for the long haul is the way we get a return on our investment. the way we ensure that al qaeda can never come back to afghanistan. >> reporter: american troops in limbo on a training mission that no one here knows how long will last. nbc news, eastern afghanistan. still ahead on nightly news, this sunday retailers try to lure holiday shop enters into stores with early bargains. will those who wait find even better deals? and later, the autistic boy who had withdrawn into his own world. now a special dog is helping make remarkable progress. ing no until i started gellin'. it's this awesome gel, only in dr.scholl's massaging gel insoles. it's like walking on a wave. i love my dr.scholl's 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to do it for them. kristen says i think the 9 p.m. curfew in baltimore city is a great idea. however, i think baltimore city needs a lot more than a curfew to handle what's going on there. thank you for responding. we appreciate it. "fox & friends" starts now. bye. good morning. it is wednesday, may 14. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck.ç @&c@ an afternoon of fun turns to horror when a bounce houpbs -- house gets thrown 50 neat in the air, catapulting kids to the ground below. how this happened and the latest on their condition ahead. >> the left slamming karl rove for questioning hillary clinton's health calling him pathetic and scared. but where was the outrage when the same questions were asked of republican candidates? >> a motorcycle slams into an s.u.v. head on and the guy on the motorcycle walks away. that was no stunt. that wasç real. and mornings, as far as we know, are real, and they're better with friends. >> you're watching "fox & friends." that's a great way to begin your day. >> thanks very much, don king. welcome aboard ladies and gentlemen. it is national biscuit day. >> that means a lot. it goes back how many -- is this the first year? >> ever since popeye's louisiana kitchen developed a special one, today you're going to get one. >> i cannot believe they're still working to improve the biscuit. to me, it peaked. >> repeat what's out there already. >>ç bisquick, that was your choice in your house? >> growing up we had biscuits until bisquick came along and that changed everything. >> they have gluten-free biscuits? >> yeah. >> biscuit day, something to talk about around the family table. >> i was watching "fox & friends" this morning. ainsley and heather were on. what does ainsley do after the show? >> i think ainsley does this, fill in for heather nauert. >> were you really watching? >> yes i was. >> let me tell you what happened overnight. bigç developments overnight that will affect the mid term elections. clay aiken won the congressional democratic primary in north carolina. the former singer and actor squeezed out a narrow victory one day after his point chris kisko died. aiken faces an uphill battle against a popular republican incumbent. over in nebraska, key party favorite, ben saff won the republican nomination for an open seat after a heated primary. in west virginia seven-term congresswoman won the republican primary. natalie tenet won the democratic nomination. whoever wins the general electionyu)s& make history. west virginia never elected a female senator. one minute it was staked to the ground. the next it was swept off the ground. a gust of wind lifting an entire inflatable house with three children inside 50 feet into the air. a 10-year-old girl did escape just with scrapes right before it went into the air but the two boys left eup -- inside ages five and six are in the hospital. one broke both arms after the other has a head injury after hitting a parked car. >> i heard him hit the ground and i heard screaming everywhere. >> little tykes is the maker of the bouncey house. this is their statement. we're looking into what happened. our thoughts and prayers are with the children and their families. a major health scare in florida. 22 hospital workers at a hospital in orlando ordered to stay home now for two weeks after their exposure to a saudi patient that is infected with mers. the 44-year-old man reportedly developed symptoms of mers mid flight from saudi arabia to london. he sat in the emergency room for hours before being admitted into the hospital. this is the second confirmed u.s. case of that deadly and rareç virus. a happy update to a story we told you about yesterday. the 21-month-old boy with leukemia who desperately needed a lifesaving drug will get his meds. the company, chimerex, is changing its mind after first refusing to provide the trial medicine to him that would t virus. >> i was very emotional. it's been tough knowing there is a drug out there and we couldn't get it atç first. i hope we don't have to wait as long as us and joshua's parents. >> you might remember the company chimerex that repeatedly denied drugs for josh hardy. they eventually changed course after eup tense public scrutiny. >> ainsley, thank you very much. in both those cases, our own peter johnson jr., america's attorney was key in helping them get it. >> we're going to talk about something that has a little bit of sickness in everybody's belly. talking about health, karl rove kicking off a political firestorm in a war of words with hillary clinton. he's getting slammed for suggesting clinton might have brain damage or some sort of damage after a fall she suffered, as you recall, in 2012. but he says his words are being twisted. elizabeth prann is live in washington to explain. >> reporter: "the new york post" reported that karl rove did make those suggestions last week at a conference, and rove clarified on the channel he was never claiming clinton had brain damage but he did suggest details are not forthcoming on what medical issues then-secretary of state hillary clinton was dealing with. clinton's team is quick to fight back, oneç spokesperson saying -- quote -- "they are scared of what she has achieved and what she has to offer. time for them to move on to their next decks pratt attack." rove said senator john mccain faced similar questions when he ran in 2008 and it's not an uncommon inquiry for such high-profile candidates. >> i didn't say she had brain damage. she had a serious health episode. this was a serious deal. she's in and out of the office starting on the 7th of december after she returns. she returns on a friday from the czech republic but then it begins an over a month-long period where she has a serious illness ending up putting her in the hospital. >> jay carney mocked rove during the briefing yesterdav3 >> you're asking the question based on the assertion of a political consultant which is a kind waive putting -- kind way of putting his job. here's what i would say about cognitive capacity, which dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge the president had won reelection including the state of ohio, so we'll leave it at that. >> this incident stemming from a fall clinton took back in 2012 after returning from a european trip where she fainted, fell and did suffer a concussion. we have a lot to seeç on this story. >> elizabeth prann, thank you very much. >> she was supposed to testify in the benghazi situation and they said she was not feeling well. then she shows up with the glasses on. i thought it was one of the most unreported stories. the secretary of state passes out; we don't know why. she comes back and testifies after delay. she wasn't feeling away. karl rove said she was in the hospital for 30 days. not straight. she had to go back and forth for observation. >> i remember working with barbara walters after she suffered a fall in the same season. hillary clinton sent her a letter explaining, saying barbara you know how it goes, throwing a casual comment out there when you fall and hit your head, sort ofç softening a bit primarily to a female audience. this is not something that is unusual to question the president's health. >> absolutely not. >> it is hypocritical for attacking somebody for looking into the records of somebody who may be candidate for president of the united states. >> the way i recall, bill clinton never released his medical records. i think they released a medical summary when he was running because people wanted to try to figure out what was going on with him for a variety of reasons. but there does seem to be hypocrisy between the right and the left. but you know this. president obama talking about john mccain back in the day when obama was still a senator and how mccain lost his bearings. >> for him to toss out comments like that, i think, gives an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. >> a little hypocrisy checkup there. >> can you imagine if a candidate said my point lost their bearings. >> can you imagine -- let's go back all the way -- it's not thursday yet but we're going to throw back to the 1980's, 1984 i believe it was when it was the second debate between ronald reagan and mondale. brit hume said let's try to understand what it was like for someone to questionç someone's age when they would be president. >> look back at ronald reagan running for reelection in 1984. he loses his debate to walter mondale and i'll never forget the night richard threlkeld, the question was on the air as to whether reagan was okay. there were questions about his mental acuity at that point which he managed to take care of in the next debate. but all president's health records become public. age sharpens the issue. hillary clinton will be the age ronald reagan wasç when he was running in 1980. >> that's right. essentially i think what we have seen is a preview of perhaps a presidential election. if you pick on hillary for any reason, some will say you're picking on her because of her age, so you're an ageist. if you're picking on her because she's a woman, you're a sexist. >> she knows what it is like to be the target when she ran against obama. i think she is going to get competition. governor o'malley of maryland is going to go at it. let's see if he starts calling out hillary maybe that she's too old or more of the same. later on the show we're going to have a guest who says maybeç the biggest obstacle that hillary clinton has is that people have obama fatigue. >> fatigue is a real condition. >> very good point. >> there are conditions that should have been investigated, so we're going to shift gears to the v.a. debacle. jeff miller, a representative out of florida, wrote a letter to president obama explaining, daily we are hearing about the inaction of the v.a. and how veterans, 40 reportedly, died waiting on a secret list. this is just getting too awful to wait on. we should have a select committee to investigateç here. and eric holder, though, attorney general, says no, we're not going to do that. we're going to hold the offer on looking into why these veterans are being left to die after serving our nation. >> meanwhile you've got bernie sanders out there, and he's figured it all out, what's going on with all these people dying, waiting on these secret lists. you know who you can blame? the koch brothers. >> there is right now as we speak a concerted effort to undermine the v.a. so the point is you have government entity itself, social security enormously popular. medicare enormously popular. postal service popular. v.a. popular. what are theç problems? the problems is that all of these are large governmental institutions, and you have folks out there now, koch brothers and others, who want to radically change the nature of society and even make major cuts in all of these institutions or maybe do away with them entirely. >> amazing too, the guy talked about changing major portions of society. he happens to be a socialist. a lot of people think in his view, we're all on the wrong side of society. but i think it's also important toç understand. this reminds me of, remember when you used to get spelling words and you had to memorize them and to help you do it, you had to use it in a sentence and you couldn't possibly think of a way to use this word on your spelling assignment in a sentence. it is as if he starts the day thinking how do i use the word koch brothers in a sentence? >> then he calls harry reid. >> right. and he says harry, i got my sentence in. >> coming up, he founded the weather underground, but no one complains when he'sç asked to speak. coming up next. >> why did alec baldwin end up in handcuffs? and guess what? he's on twitter again. ♪ ♪it's progressive pain. ♪ first you have that, that feeling of numbness. then you get the hot pins. it got to the point where i felt like, almost like lightning bolts, hot strikes into my feet. the pain was, it was... i just couldn't handle it, so my doctor prescribed lyrica. the pain has been reduced and i feel better than i did before. 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why don't they want to hear somebody else's opinion? >> it's amazing. much so we call it disinvitation season. students get together, and sometimes faculty. i think it's the long term result of students believing they have the right not to be offended or even challenged. >> when you look at the woman who ran the i.m.f., you would think they would want to hear from such a powerful woman who ran the i.f.m. they feel because they discriminate against women or condi rice, because they feel like she had a hand in getting us into some wars we shouldn't have been in, they shouldn't hear that. it's almost likeç the students are trying to figure out who can we have speak to us who sounds just like us. >> that's exactly right. and it's amazing the purity test that students are implying. the chancellor of berkeley just got disinvited, just withdrew from haverford college. it is hard to imagine who is going to be allowed to speak on campuses anymore. >> kermit the frog. they love "sesame street"; not too political. how big a factor, greg, is the fact that on these college campuses you've got all these lefty professors for four years beating into their heads a certain ideology and they want to hear that when they say the big so longç everybody? >> sometimes the professors are right in front. when it comes to condoleezza rice, that wasn't student led. that was faculty led. i think the entire campus environment and the problems of speech code teaches students to think like censors. this is a natural result in some ways of what they're being taught. >> i looked at the list. it looks like more conservatives or right-wing speakers get disinvited than to the left. but there is a number of of lefties as well who are left not speaking. r&c@ what does this say about where we are on college campus stph-s >> it says there is a real intolerance for different points of view. students are not taught to say why don't i hear this person out? >> we send our college for four years for a different opinion, so they can see everything. greg lukianoff, sir, thank you very much. if i ever run a college, you're going to be my speaker. you hear me? >> i might get disinvited. >> you never know. straight ahead it is an olympic sport but the fencing team at one college is now kicked off campus and wait until you hear why. nearlyç 22 million millenials, the young people, still living at home with mom and dad. our next guest made millions of dollars in real estate before he turned 30. why he says moving out is the best thing you can do. ♪ ♪ really... so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 dollars a month? 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>> just a lot of hard work in the beginning. a lot of sleepless nights in the beginning. out learning from the best and make sure we're innovative in our real estate business as a whole and work very, veryç hard to do so. >> you talked about your mom moving into your business and you hiring her. many millenials are moving back home with their parents. 13% only say having their own home is a priority according to recent studies here. why do you think it is a better idea for them to get out of the basement and buy a home? >> right now such an unprecedented time regards to opportunity for millenials to buy, the a affordability of the housinghmarket. you can get a mortgage for about 4.25%. let's say you're too busy and you want to wait a year, and now you wait a year later, that same house, maybe about $270,000, with rates going up you're looking at a rate of maybe about 5.7%. now that same mortgage payment is about $1,500. overall it can cost $100,000 more over the life of the loan by waiting one year. >> let's go over cities here. you say charleston, south carolina, is a good place for a millenial on a starting salary to look. >> it's been dubbed silicon harbor, the silicon valley of the eastç coast. it is a startup for tech companies. there are 200 miles of pristine beaches. average commute is 10 to 15 minutes. it has a great restaurant market. you can get a starter home for $145,000 or $700 a month. >> the second place you talk about is austin, texas. >> austin has a cool, young vibe. in the past five years, a big increase in millenials going there. a great music scene. you can get a starter home for about $200,000 or about $1,000 a month to buyç there. >> nashville, tennessee? 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>> yeah. it's our shot of the morning. >> that's your driveway. >> my driveway. yesterday i posted this on instagram. i came out and my kids said to me, mommy, is it okay if i use all my talk to make -- use all my chalk to make a big american flag, make our american flag? i said oh yeah, it's quite o that.ht"uz i hash tagged it raising patriots. it is so good to see that. it is so big. one of them ran over it on a bike and there was a big argument about that. >> and a little trail, red, white and blue. >> i just thought that how great that is what they decided to use all their chalk on. i'm going to buy them more chalk. >> you didn't tell them to do it. you let kids be kids. you let them decide what to do with their time. from 6 p.m. from 6:17, you didn't say make a flag. from 6:17 to 6:26 prepare for dinner. that is not the elisabeth hasselbeck way.ç >> some people refer to them as helicopter parents. others call them the beta parents. >> the beta parents will do anything they can, even when the kids are two years old, to make sure they get into harvard. they'll hire bilingual nannies, make sure they get the right foods. some serve them fish for breakfast? >> beta fish? >> yeah. here's the thing. that's what alpha parents do. jen nesser has written a book. she is saying the way parents areç raising their kids these days is a far cry from how we are raised. >> she says beta parents sometimes leave them alone with a crayon, a piece of string and cardboard box. beta parents let their kids eat processed cheese. beta parents own televisions. they don't make cupcakes out of cantaloupes with frosting. >> they're saying back off, let kids be kids. there is a school of thought with parents that you basically have the kids and then let them get busy. don't bother me unless it's important for ten years. and now you have people, maybe the kids of those parents saying i didn't like being a kid, being ignored so they're overdoing it with theirç kids. they're scheduling their free time. there is no such thing as free time anymore. >> beta parents are the parents like we had growing up. when you look back to the way we were raised, we weren't the centers of the universe like many parents -- >> my mom didn't even like me. >> there you go. >> not at all. >> a couple of days ago -- she loves you. one time i tried to make ice cream out of bananas. it didn't go well. that was an alpha moment. >> as a mom orç kid? >> as a mom. when our first child was born we looked at all those books for alpha parents. we were convinced the child should never have a fried food before the age of six. by the time our third child rolled around, we stopped at the mcdonald's drive-through when sally was born on the way home to get her fries. >> no teeth yet but we're stopping. what's your favorite beta parent moment? and what's your favorite -- the beta parent is somebody who is? >> hands off. >> and what's an example of looking back at what steve just said, maybe you were too -- >> there are two. alpha. beta. meanwhile, let'sç start with the "a" ainsley earhardt in for heather nauert. >> i was the b child. >> you're the a team. >> he screamed "i am god, i am god! " before ramming a stolen landscaping truck into a tv station in baltimore. the 29-year-old then barricaded himself in an editing room for five hours while he was watching himself on the news coverage. police eventually cuffed him while he heldç a golf club. no one was injured. the man who has not yet been identified is being treated now at the hospital. she was charged with attempted murder. and the exact moment she was attacked was caught on camera. this happened off the coast of hawaii. a man trying to rip out the diver's air supply. she was reportedly filming another diver stealing fish under water when the man detached her oxygen. she was able to reattach it without shooting to the surface which can be deadly. the daughter of radio legend casey kasem makingç a desperate plea to get her dad back from her step mother. she last saw her dad on may 6. his health is deteriorating. and the daughter says the trouble with the step mom isn't anything new. >> we told her if it is about the money, take the money, take the house. we won't contest anything. take it all, have it all. give us our dad back. >> the family plans to file a missing person's report this morning. they think their dad might be at an indian reservation in washington state. it's the video we've all been talking about. surveillance video capturing a horrific motorcycle crash in missouri.ç that rider slamming head on into the side of that black s.u.v. amazingly the biker wasn't seriously injured. he% himself up as you can see, and he walks away. brian says what was he looking at? >> he came out of nowhere. >> what's happening in sports. >> thanks for asking. i guess we're on speaking terms again. nba playoff, a controversial call in the final seconds. the clippers against the thunder, game 5, 104-102, clippers. reggie jackson ends up with what appears to be fouled. the ball ruled off the clippers out of bounds. westbrook pulled up for 3, no good.ç he fouled. he goss a handle on 3. he does. the thunder wins. the wizards beat the pacers 102-79 forcing game 6. looks like charles barkley and shaquille o'neal won't meet in the ring for martial arts. last week during their inside the nba show, gave fans a preview of what they can expect. shaq said barkley backed out. i would kill him. i would definitely kickç his "a" because i'm from the streets of newark and he is not. plus he's seven foot and over 300 pounds and barkley is like 6'4" and not. everyone writes me about hockey. hockey will be in the next sportscast. i promise. >> is there a score you want to give? 20 minutes before the top of the hour. transgender national security leaker chelsea manning. >> it gets more than 10,000 criminals a month but what do you know about u.s.ç marshals? 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>> a u.s. marshal is considered the most dangerous job in law enforcement and it's been around since 1789, but there isn't much known about what they do untilç now. this man served 28 years with the u.s. marshals. his book is out, "u.s. marshaled: inside america's most storied law enforcement agency." what you don't know about them and what they do. mike, first off, you write this book, the sheer numbers of people that you capture is staggering. >> we arrest an average of around 23,000 fugitives a year. that's 10,000 a month throughout the united states. these are the most violent of fugitives. they are wanted for murder, rape, homicide, child abductions, sex offenders. you name it, they are the worst of the worst. >> your jurisdiction is anybody, anything in the u.s.; right? >> correct. weç do also international fugitives, fugitives wanted in the u.s. that have gone abroad. we're responsible for finding them abroad. also foreign fugitives that come into the u.s., we're responsible for apprehending them. >> united states of america founded the witness protection program? >> that is true. since about late 1970's we've been in charge of protecting all the witnesses within the program, their families. that can include 24-hour protection while they're in danger. >> this is the ultimate reality show. there's only 4,000 of you guys? >> correct. there's actuallyç less than 4,000. in the fugitive program we have a task force network of about 4,000 also that assist us. >> the bigger names that you've captured, been a part of? >> the u.s. marshals arrested general manuel noriega during the invasion of panama. the d.c. sniper case, we identified two individuals in their vehicle they were in. guzman, most of the drug cartels. it goes on and on. >> just the organization and execution is something every government agency could learn from, don't you think? it seems like your chain of command is very pure. >> we do the most we can with the resources ue have. the marshals are very effective at it. one of the reasons is we get along with all other agencies and our state and local task force officers are such an integral part of what we do. >> you are related to wyatt earp. this is the legend. >> i don't know exact what the relationship is. 30 years i've been called wyatt more than i have mike. >> kevin costner had fun playing that. mike, the book is fascinating. thanks so much for your service to@-ui country. look what i've got. my own patch. i'm going to start speeding as soon as i leave here. coming up, they serve this nation only to be hahn pherd with out-of--- only to be hammered with out-of-control student loans. have you ever heard of a drinking game that uses skee ball as its theme. ♪ ♪ ♪ (announcer) from the company that invented litter, comes litter re-invented. 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i'll start with you, with brewski ball using the name or is this fine? no trademark infringement? >> the line they're taking in the beer league that did this in the ski ball people should zip their lips. aspirin, yoyo, zipper, are names no longer trademarked. they're genericked. and the idea in this case is that the brewski ball people are saying it's ski ball. we call this game ski ball. they can't trademark it. and brewsski ball doesn't confuse anybody, so go away. >> they say nothing going on. >> and nobody is harmed. >> this is what i say. first of all, it says right here, skiball, u.s. patent office. it's not a trademark, but there is a patent on this design and there is a company that actually owns the name. but the reason why he's correct, why all the names, yoyo and things like that are household names is because nobody went and did this and went to court to challenge it. yoyo never went to court and said this is my did she this is our name. >> what would happen if they did? >> we don't know. so skisexual going to court and -- ski social security ball is going to court saying this is our name. they don't want somebody playing and getting in a wreck and kill somebody. now their good name, all kids love to go and play skiball are ruined. >> so let me ask you this, what's next? beer pong is something for ping-pong. should ping-pong be worried about their name being used -- >> there is no ping-pong name. if that's your example, it's not a good one for ski ball because there is no ping-pong trademark. we play ping-pong, you can call it beer popping, call it anything you want. >> ping-pong is more like football. whereas this is a thing. >> what if it looked completely different? >> it's not the machine. it's the league that -- these people are not manufacturing a machine that looks like a ski ball machine, but isn't. so there is no confusion and when you got a trademark case, the issue is, are you confusing people? are people going to think hey, the ski ball company is running this league? there is no possible way you could think that. >> what happened between 2005 and now, because they the league founder, he gave the blessing in 2005. >> this is the interesting thing. when we ran an investigation into our company, life is lived chronologically. these guys did nothing to defend their name. then they went in to an agreement with the brews ski ball people. >> it was a handshake agreement. >> a week after they start to reveal confidential information. this is what's in the superintendent all of a sudden they say hey, our trademark, our good name and went to court. >> initially it was a publicity stunt for them to get a name and it blew out of proportion. >> we're going to see what happens and how it unfolds and how the game unfolds, who is the winner and the loser. we want to thank aardvark amusement for giving us a nice time to play this morning. >> ladies first. >> i came so close. coming up, veterans being cheated when it comes to student loans. they were charged more than anyone. and speak of our military, he hasn't played football in four years, but that's because he was fighting for our freedom. that's about to change. the army ranger headed to the nfl. we're honored to have him here. ♪ ♪ and the award goes to ceramics house. congratulations. thank you. the success of your small business depends on results. go vests! all organic, and there's tons of info on our website. that's why you rely on the best for your business. and verizon delivers the best devices on the best network. you're all big toes to me. so go ahead, stream and download with confidence on america's largest, most reliable 4glte network. activate any 4glte smartphone and get $100 off. for best results, use verizon. you've reached the age where you know how things work. this is the age of knowing what needs to be done. so why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? 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[ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. good morning. it's wednesday, may 14. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. an afternoon of fun turns to horror when a bounce house is lifted 50 feet off the ground with three children inside. how this could have happened and the latest on the kids' conditions up next. they called karl rove pathetic and scared. what was the outrage when the same questions were asked of republican candidates? we report. you decide. but steve's got to talk first. >> that's right. then from the front lines to the nfl, meet the army ranger who is trading in his fatigues for a helmet and shoulder pads. yep. that's him right there. we got a busy two hours on this wednesday morning because wednesday mornings are better with friends. >> it's time for "fox & friends" one hour ago i revealed it's national biscuit day and i've just been told by the people at popeye's that in addition to biscuits and gravy, they're bringing chicken. we've been up since 2 or 3:00 o'clock in the morning. it's lunch time for us. period of time near supper time. >> i had no idea that popeye's loved chicken. i thought it was all spinach. >> maybe that's a different pop eye. >> i remember something about when popeye was in the blue uniform, he was much more entertaining as opposed to the white uniform. >> you spent a lot of time analyzing cartoons, haven't you? >> how about pink? here is someone in a pink outfit. >> he has a bicep focus. >> good thing mine are covered. let me tell you what's happening in the news. a fox news alert. big developments overnight that will affect the midterm elections. tea party favorite won the republican nomination for an open senate seat in nebraska. in west virginia, seven-term congresswoman shelly moore capito won the republican primary. secretary of state natalie tenet won the democratic nomination. whoever wins the general election will make history because west virginia has never elected a female senator. former "american idol" runner up clay caken won the democratic primary, one day after his opponent died. aiken now faces an uphill battle against the popular republican incumbent, renee elmers. look how high this is. a gust of wind lifting an entire inflatable house with three children inside 50 feet up into the air. a ten-year-old girl did escape with just scrapes just as it was taking off. but two boys, ages five and six, they were inside and now they're in the hospital. one broke both of his arms after hitting the ground. the other has a head injury after falling on to a parked car. >> then he hit his head off the back of my car. then i heard him hit the ground and i heard screaming. >> little tyke the manufacturer said we are looking into what happened. our thoughts and prayers are with the children and their families. a happy update to a story we've been following. the 21-year-old boy -- 21-month-old boy with leukemia who needed the life saving drug will get it. the company changing its mind after first refusing to provide the trial medicine to him that would treat his adeno virus. >> i was very emotional. it's been tough knowing that there is a drug out there and we couldn't get it. it should be easy. i hope the next people don't have to wait as long as us and joshua's parents. >> you might remember the company from the case of josh hardy. it repeatedly denied him the drug as well. eventually that company did reverse course after intense public scrutiny. the 9-11 memorial museum opens up tomorrow, but we have this brand-new video just into "fox & friends" of what it looks like. the museum dedicated to honoring the tragic events of september 11 features more than 20,000 photographs, 500 hours of footage, and thousands of artifacts. >> 25 bucks. >> to get in. >> it should be free. it's five minutes after the top of the hour. >> karl rove kicked off a political fire storm yesterday in a war of words with hillary clinton. so he's getting slammed for people suggesting that he said hillary clinton might have brain damage after a fall she suffered in 2012. but he says his words are being twisted. >> to sort it all out, we fetched elizabeth prann who explains what's going on. >> karl rove came on the channel this week to clarify what the "new york post" is reporting saying he never claimed former secretary of state hillary clinton had brain damage. listen here. >> she had a serious health episode. i mean, this was a serious deal. she basically is out of action from -- she's in and out of the office starting on the 7th of december after she returns. she returns on a friday from the czech republic. but then begins over a month long period where she's got a serious illness, ending up putting her in the hospital. we don't know what the doctor said about what does she have to be concerned about. >> so you see there that rove says details surrounding her medical issues are not forth coming, especially when it comes to the fall she took in december of 2012 after returning from a trip to europe where she fainted, she fell and suffered a concussion. he we want on to say that senator john mccain faced similar health questions when he ran back in 2008, that, in fact, it's not an uncommon inquiry for high profile candidates. clinton's team is quick to fight back, one spokesman saying they're scared of what she has achieved and what she has to offerment time for them to move on to their next desperate attack. the white house even chiming in, jay carney took a jab at rove during the press briefing just yesterday. >> you asked the question based on a political consultant, which is a kind way of -- it is medical evaluation. shear what i would say about cognitive capacity, which is dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge that the president won reelection, including the state of ohio, so we'll leave it at that. >> clinton has yet to say if she'll even run in 2016. back to you. >> thank you very much. look, it wasn't karl rove, the first to on the national scale to mention hillary's problems. i think it was two or three months ago, drudge report mentioned is she sick and people were talking behind the scenes about a myriad of intentional health problems for hillary clinton. will she release her medical records? i bet not. think about her husband, bill clinton, when he was running for president. he was asked to repeatedly and to the best of my knowledge, he never did. they did release a general summary about his health. but that was it. >> you want to talk cognitive capacity, which we just saw jay carney refer to, perhaps we need to check on memory because this isn't first time this has been tossed around because of cheap shots. remember when president obama was saying that mccain lost his bears because he was too old. listen to this. >> for him to toss out comments like that, i think it's an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. >> i mean, that's important to bring up. the other thing is, i said this last hour, it was one of those underreported stories i can remember because we were just waiting to see if she was going to testify for benghazi. all we heard about is she wasn't up to it. somehow she had a virus. then she turns out, well, she hit her head. whoa, did someone hit her head? did she fall? yeah, she hit her head, fell. then comes back with these glasses. they go, it's just going to be temporary. that's how hard she hit her head. i'm thinking to myself, that's huge. if that was in my family, that would be huge news. all of a sudden you're wearing glasses for months, you can't go to work. you're in and out of the hospital for 30 days. so i think ha as a consultant if you're asking karl rove to give his prognosis and he's on stage next to robert gibbs and other experts and ask him to talk about prospects in 2016, i think her health is only natural to bring up, especially her age. it's an issue. >> especially as it relates to benghazi. is she still not okay? still haven't heard anything as it relates to decisions made prior to, during and after. >> i'm sure she'll be subpoenaed, though. brit hume took us way back here, a little throw back tuesday it was. we're going to bring it to you on wednesday when he said look, this has always been called into question. remember when president reagan was facing mondale in the second debate in 1984? check him out. >> look back at ronald reagan running for reelection in 1984, he loses a debate to walter mondale and i'll never forget the night that richard thrill kill of abc news said on the care, the question was whether reagan was, you know, okay. certainly there were questions about his mental acutity at that point which he managed to take care of in the next debate. but all presidents' health records become public. age raises that and sharpens the issue and hillary clinton will be about the age i guess that ronald reagan was when he was running in 1980. >> surely it will be an issue, her health. and it has been for a while. it's funny how rumors have a way of getting injected into the campaign. remember back in 2008 the suggestion that barak obama was not born in this country. that actually came from supporters of hillary clinton. of course, here we are years later, people are still talking about that. >> just let's change gears and talk about your house. let's talk about your household perhaps. the author of "good night nanny cam" has come out with a fascinating look at overparenting perhaps in today's society, called a beta parenting where you are pretty much a beta parent is somebody that is laid back, kind of like the 1970s parent or the 1960s parent, or every other parent in america. >> alpha parents are the helicopter parents. they want to do everything for their kids so that the kids go to mit by the time they're seven years old. the beta parents, more like the way we were all raised. >> remember this? there is dvd's and videos out for the baby when it's in the womb, to play certain music. >> we had that. >> you did that? >> sure. >> see, that's an example of alpha parenting. >> that's why i was doing a story on it. it didn't work, by the way. >> so this is what she said the beta parent said, they don't try to engage their kids every second of the day. sometimes they leave them alone with a crayon, string and cardboard box. they let their parents eat processed cheese. beta parents don't hide pumpkin puree in the pancakes. >> sometimes you let your kids color the flag on a driveway like you did. >> the way she has written this thing -- she wrote this beta parent manifesto in the huffington post, you really want to be a beta parent when you look at it as opposed to an alpha parent. we asked you what you thought. one said let kids be kids. that's how they learn. give guidance when needed, but let them be themselves. >> doug said when i was a kid, my parents were beta. i'd be jumping off the roof onto the trampoline and then into the pool all day. >> excuse me, i think that's a little bit out of control. do not do that. jerry e-mailed, my older brother and i used to travel by subway from the bronks to brooklyn to watch the dodgers play. we were 11 and seven and it took about two hours each way. i guess we had beta parents. that was the story back then. >> sure. these days that would be regarded as child abuse. anita writes on facebook, building forts in the woods, ice skating on frozen ponds, good lord, how did i ever survive a childhood like that? somehow i remember occasionally going swimming less than a half hour after i ate a meal. >> wow! that is incredible! >> somehow i made it. >> that's akin to joining a gang today. >> being beta may you betta at being a parent? keep them coming. >> i actually think i was definitely too alpha. >> really? >> yeah. i think katy, my youngest, is benefitting from the fact that maybe i was too alpha with brian and in between -- i canned of lost interest with -- kind of lost interest with the last one. >> it's a perception that a lot of parents have. in the beginning they push as much as they can. >> i remember sitting at the table going what's her name again? >> coming up, america, what's hillary's biggest issue heading into 2016? other next guest says it's not benghazi. we'll talk to doctor, professor, genius larry sabato who predicted nearly every presidential race correctly. the brawl between jay-z and beyonce's sister raising eyebrows. we'll break it down for you. ♪ ♪ you, my friend are a master of diversification. who would have thought three cheese lasagna would go with chocolate cake and ceviche? 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dr. larry sabato is the director of the center of politics at the university of virginia, joins us with a look inside his crystal of people are going to be saying we need a change after barak obama. what do you think? will that hurt hillary? >> here are hillary clinton's real challenges, brian. not benghazi, not monica lewinsky. it's the fact that president obama, at least right now -- has low approval ratings. if those approval ratings continue to be low in 2016, she will be held accountable. people say, well, she ran against barak obama. she has a separate identity. john mccain ran against george w. bush in 2000. didn't help him in 2008. the second factor, brian, is that there is some good research in this field. just a party running for a third consecutive term actually subtracts a point or two from that party's popular vote total. >> why? >> americans are inclined to switch out parties at regular intervals because the truth is, they don't fully trust either one and they want to avoid corruption. >> yeah. bush 41 followed ronald reagan, but did not get a second term. look at this pew poll now. 65% of the country said they would like to see a president who offers different policies and programs from the current president. 30% want to see a president with similar programs and policies. that's right now in 2014. how much do we care about being the election is in 2016? >> we shouldn't care overly. you're right. polls can change. but americans do get tired of the same direction. i always like to compare it to tv series. not talking about morning shows, of course. talking about comedies, sitcoms and cops and robbers shows. how long do they last? very few go eight seasons. most go two, three, four seasons and people are ready for a change. >> right. except for "cheers." i wish that could have gone on. i got to ask you, when karl rove brought up the health of hillary clinton, do you think that's out of bounds or is that up with tradition for a 68-year-old that did pass out in her last few months in office? >> here is something that most people don't know. hillary clinton, by the time of the election in 2016, is going to be exactly the same age, 69, that ronald reagan was in 1980 when he was first running for his first elective term as president. so health questions are always legitimate. we never want to go back to the situation that we've had that i studied in 1960 when john f. kennedy had some very serious health problems that were covered up and even denied, lied about. i know of nothing that would prevent hillary clinton from being president. she seems very vigorous to me. but every presidential nominee should have to have a thorough examination and the results of that examination should be revealed to the public. we ought to require that for presidential detainees. >> it does make sense. the kids are graduated and you can take the rest of the summer off. thanks so much. >> this weekend, brian, is graduation. i'm not free yet. >> sorry. after that. straight ahead, veterans being cheated when it comes to student loans. they were charged more than anyone else. this morning we have a huge update for our military members. her son was left starving and embarrassed by the school because no one told her about her outstanding lunch balance. so what did she have to do? 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he was 45 cents short and didn't know he also owed 4.95 from a meal back in april. school didn't notify them. but his mom wouldn't let the school standard slide. she not only paid his debt, she also paid the balances of 18 other students. that mother, amanda cowan, joins us now. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> let me get this straight, your son is 45 cents short and they won't give him the lunch? >> correct. >> why? >> they have a no charge policy, as a lot of other schools do. >> did you know that he owed 4-point -- about five bucks from something he charged in april? >> no, i didn't. it was his last charge was april 15. >> you never got a notice that your son was delinquent, right? >> no, i didn't. >> okay. so he comes home and he tells you that not only was he short, he didn't get the lunch, and not only that, but the lunch person took the lunch out of his hand and threw it in the garbage, right? >> well, he actually called me from the school and told me they weren't allowing him to eat. i asked him what was going on. he said they wouldn't -- he tried paying the $2. they wouldn't accept it. so they took the lunch, threw it in the trash and that's when he called me. >> oh, man. here is what the school says. although we do not encourage the charging of school lunches, the union schools do allow charging many schools across the nation have very strict policies that say if a child does not have the money, they do not eat. we are proud to say we do not have that policy. i can't imagine they're proud of what that lunch person did. i mean, they threw the lunch in the garbage and then your son went hungry. you're being calm right now. but you were really agitated the day this happened. what did you do first? >> first thing i did is i went to the school to talk to the lunch lady. i asked her, why wasn't he allowed to eat? she just basic -- well, he didn't have enough money. >> right. >> i was to the point i didn't even know what to say. >> sure. so you went back on friday and talked to one of the bosses at the school. what did they say? >> i went back on monday and talked to the vice principal. >> and you said? >> she told me -- i needed to understand that at the end of the year, they're stuck with the bill if parents don't charge, pay the charges. >> sure. and so you decided you were going to make good. fair and square, you did owe, although the school never let you know ahead of time that you had an outstanding balance. so you wanted to make sure this did not happen to any of the other kids in the school. so what did you try to do? >> well, what i tried to do is give her $250 to not only pay the bill, but distribute the rest of it in the accounts of the 19 kids on the list. she told me they couldn't do that. >> sure. but they wouldn't take 250 bucks, would they? >> no. she took 60. she paid the $53 tab and put the rest on my son's account. >> well, now he can have lunch for the rest of the year. but the damage is done. i know he was humiliated. but you made it very clear that it was not appropriate, although the school doesn't feel like they did anything wrong, which is crazy. >> well, they said they followed within their guidelines. no disciplinary action will be taken. >> yeah, but he was 45 cents short. just give him the piece of pizza. >> i know. i don't understand throwing it in the trash. >> exactly. >> it's not solving the problem. >> it's crazy. thank you very much. summer is coming. he's not going to have to stand in that lunch line much longer. he's not. bad memory. 29 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, rubio for president. the republican senator said he may still be in for 2016 no matter who else is running. that includes somebody else. jackie kennedy's deepest secrets revealed 14 years of personal letters now made public. the intimate details, including what the first lady feared most about marrying that man, jfk. ♪ ♪ for paul ridley there's no substitute for advil. it's built to be as fast as it is strong and fights pain at the site of inflammation. advil has the strength and speed to help you move past pain. advil. make today yours. he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. when sales rep steve hatfield books at laquinta.com, so he knows exactly when he can prep for his presentation. and when steve is perfectly prepped, ya know what he brings? 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>> yes, they are. free biscuit today at any popeye's with a purchase all day long. >> you can't beat that. why is it you love the biscuit? i know the guy who started pop eye's worked on it for two years in a culinary lab. >> well, my biscuits are the best tasting in the known universe and my popeye's customers are the best customers in the world. >> you're taking credit for the entire organization? >> the entire organization because i love my biscuits. so come on in today at any popeye's for any purchase, you'll get a free biscuit. >> it's perfect with the chicken. >> of course. >> i grew up on the popeye's spicy chicken. i love that stuff. you got locations across the country. so drop by a popeye's, buy something and you get a free biscuit. >> very nice. >> honey on it. >> we'll have to do that. that's the way i like it. perfect. >> yes. >> amy, annie, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> now to ainsley, time for the news. >> thanks so much. we're going to start with this, a major health scare in florida. 22 hospital workers at an orlando hospital ordered to stay home for two weeks after they were exposed to a patient infected with mers. the 44-year-old man developed symptoms of that virus mid flight from saudi arabia to london. he sat in the emergency room in orlando for hours before being admitted into the hospital. this is the second confirmed u.s. case of the deadly rare virus. rubio for president? the republican florida senator now admits that he would still enter the 2016 race even if it meant running against former florida governor jeb bush. he says the presidential candidate doesn't make decisions based on what someone else does. >> i think when someone contemplates running for president of the united states, you too so based on a criteria that you set for yourself. i don't think they're decisions based with someone else's decisions in mind and i bet if he was here, he would give you the exact same answer. i think that's the way you approach a decision of that magnitude is based on your own criteria. not what someone else might or might not do. >> he admits jeb bush would make a formidable president, a candidate at least, for president. newly discovered letters revealing 14 years of secrets from jackie kennedy bearing her soul to an irish priest that she met only twice, but had written to for years. she opens up about her fears of marrying jfk because he might be like her father, she says. she goes on to say, quote, he loves the chase and he is bored with the conquest and once married, needs proof he's still attractive, so he flirts with other women and resents you. the unpublished letters are up for auction next month. fencing might be an olympic sport, but tell that to the officials at north dakota state university because they have banned it, saying the sword-like equipment known as foils are deemed weapons and as such possession or use on the university campus owned or controlled property is prohibited. the sword, however, has no actual blade and does not have a sharp tip. the team is now forced to move off campus. and those are your headlines, my friends. over to you on the sofa. >> is it arthur? >> it is. >> we got to get ainsley a monitor. she should have seen awe long time ago. >> leave ainsley alone! >> that's for tomorrow's segment. >> i'm with you on that. >> let's talk about this. so we've seen it on television. >> important case. >> surveillance video, it looks like beyonce's sister is beating up jay-z. that's an elevator at the standard hotel in new york. so we have many legal questions. first of all, there is a story out there that tmz paid $250,000 for that video. >> to whom? that's the question. do they pay it -- first of all, let's get this out of the way. it's not jay-z's video. it's not beyonce's video. when you're in a public hallway, on a public street, when you're in a public elevator, you have no expectation of privacy. so it's not your video. you're basically consenting by being there that you could be videoed in today's day and age. >> known a hotel? >> in a public place, yes. this was in their room, in the bathroom or maybe even a phone booth, some expectation of privacy. >> does that mean they can't sue for this video? >> that is correct. >> but wherever they had access so to that video monitor, that would not be a public place. that could have been a private place. >> here is the real thing, who sold the video? or who got their hands on it? is it the hotel who probably owns the video. it's their video. >> what if it is? >> or is it an employee of the hotel who stole the video? if it was an employee who stole the video, they may have some big problems. criminal problems and civil problems 'cause it's not their property. >> but if i'm tmz and i write the check to that shady person who did something that's a fireable offense and despicable, do i have to say who i bought it from? am i responsible to say -- >> you guys are the journalists. you're asking me that question? it depends if they say listen, this is our source. i don't think they would reveal. >> what if the people in the hotel, those individuals, be it jay-z or two other people involved in a domestic issue in an elevator, can that video that was wrongly sold, assuming that it was, be used to then prosecute one of them? >> yes. there would be an evidentiary hearing if it ever went that far about its add -- admissiblity. jay-z could pick up the phone and press charges against her and she would be arrested for assault in the third degree, which it's a no brainer, which is a misdemeanor. all you have to do is cause harm and pain, substantial pain. so it looked like he got a little substantial pain in there. and on the civil side, if he wanted to be a jerk, he could sue her and for his injuries. >> and just for the record, it seems as though the story in the daily news today is solange was mad at him because he was going to rihanna's party after the big event. the undercurrent is he was supposed to help so dlange's career get on track. >> there is one more part. solange brought some of her friends to this party, the met party and they were using jay-z' name to try to get in and he had just found out about it. he said, don't you have your friends using my name to try to get into any parties. that was what started the whole thing. why do you have to go out to riri's party? why can't you go home with your wife? i can't believe we're talking about this on "fox & friends." you were talking about the u.s. marshals doing all this good. >> your rights are not what you think when you're in an elevator. >> or hallway or any public place. >> you're never private. >> anywhere anymore, in my opinion. >> thank you. >> i just know this, this conversation was private, just between us. straight ahead, from the front lines to the nfl, meet the army ranger who is trading in his fatigues for a helmet and shoulder pads and hopes to put an eagle on that helmet. can you pick him out? >> yes, i can. but first the aflac trivia question of the day. born on this day in 1944, the film maker is best known for creating "star wars." who is he? be the first to e-mail us with the correct answer. >> i've got it, by george [male announcer] ortho crime files. disturbing the pantry. a house, under siege. say helto home defense max. kills bugs inside and prevents new ones for up to a year. ortho home defense max. get order. get ortho®. ♪ aflac, aflac, afc! ♪ [ both sigh ] ♪ ugh! ♪ you told me he was good, dude. yeah he stinks at golf. but he was great at getting my claim paid fast. how fast? 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[ female announcer ] the x1 entertainment operating system. only from xfinity. tv and internet together like never before. the answer is george lucas and our winner, linda crowle. scottsdale, arizona. she'll get brian's book "george washington's secret six." >> which i will sign, i promise. let's get started. who is normal and ho is nuts? it's a question we ask dr. keith ablow every week and he joins us now with some answers. good morning, dr. keith. >> so we meet again. >> we do. so we have an interesting to st. why is it that young people, especially girls, add so many useless words to their sentences. examples are like, you know. is this normal or nuts? >> well, it sure is annoying, but it isn't nuts. like here is, like, what, like, this is like the problem is, i think, we're so uncertain as a culture about everything now that literally our uncertainty and our sense of having no autonomy is creeping into our language. it's all about, like, this, like, do you know. it's all about doubt. there is nothing certain. we better get our heads screwed on right. >> all right. sounds good. you just don't know when to start correcting that. >> i do now. >> let's go to our secretary e-mail and talk about men and women. my wife won't throw out any junk mail. she insists on opening all of it and we currently have three garbage bags full of unopened mail. she has not had the chance to open yet. is this normal or nuts? >> for this you call a psychiatrist? she's nuts. okay. because you have three bags of garbage that she won't throw out. she either has ocd or those traits. here is the metaphor. she's been searching for something important in junk for a long time. maybe she thinks there is secrets in her family that are worth uncovering when there is really no love there. she's got to get to a therapist and find the truth about her life. not some publisher's clearing house letter she forget to open. >> maybe she forgot to open the big check. finally, here it is, when i'm alone, i start thinking about loved ones and how they will be eulogized. i even think about how i will be remembered, too. that's cheery. thinking about the end. >> normal or nuts? >> it isn't cheery, but it isn't nuts. in fact, i like it because you know what? here is the thing, here is someone who is not running from the ultimate truth that we're all mortal. that can guide your life. if you're thinking about how you'll be eulogized, you might just make good choices. i think probably more of us should do exactly what this viewer has asked about. >> that makes perfect sense. think about the impact you're making right now and ultimately how they will remember you. good advice. very nicely done. >> well, thank you. >> so you applaud the last ones steve. the other two you weren't too happy with. >> just e-mail dr. keith and he will have more advice coming your way. >> he does one of our favorite segments. >> keep that mail coming. >> thank you. still ahead, is senator joe manchin throwing in the 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friends" >> i cannot tell you how many -- that's a commercial on our air all the time. pinocchio would be a terrible -- what kind of speaker? motivational speaker. >> that's right. >> oh, boy. >> how many times have you been in -- a couple of times we've rented those bouncy houses for our kids' parties. those pictures right there, the first thing they do is pound it in the ground. how does that happen? >> they staked it down. >> i know! how does that happen? heather is off today. we've got ainsley earhart in with the breaking news and we do have some. >> yes, we do. let's give you that break news right now. we're going to start with a fox news alert. big developments overnight that will affect the midterm elections. tea party favorite ben sass won the republican nomination for an open senate seat in nebraska. in west virginia, seven-term congresswoman shelly moore capito won the republican primary. secretary of state natalie tenet won the democratic nomination. whoever wins the general election will make history because west virginia has never elected a female senator. and former "american idol" runner up clay aiken won north carolina's democratic congressional primary. this just one day after his opponent, the former state commerce secretary, keith krisco died. aiken faces an uphill battle against the republican incumbent, renee ale meres. and one minute it was staked to the earth. the next swept off the ground. a gust of wind lifting that inflatable house with three children inside 50 feet high. a ten-year-old girl was able to escape with scrapes, but two boys that were trapped inside ages five and six, are now in the hospital. one broke both of his arms after hitting the ground. the other suffered a head injury after falling onto a parked car. >> then he hit his head off the back of my car and then i heard him hit the ground and then i heard screaming. >> little tykes, the manufacturer, released this statement. we're looking into what happened. our thoughts and our prayers are with the children and with their families. we do have a happy update to tell you about to a story that we've been following here on fox. the 21-month-old boy with leukemia who desperately needed the life-saving drugs is finally getting those meds. the company is changing its mind now after first refusing to provide the child medicine to judson shepherd to treat his adeno virus. >> i was very emotional. it's been tough knowing that there is a drug out there and we couldn't get it at first. it should be easy. i hope the next person doesn't have to wait as long as us in joshua's parents. >> you might remember the company from the case of another young boy, josh hardy. the drug was reapedly denied to him and eventually the company did reverse course after intense public scrutiny. the 9-11 memorial museum opens tomorrow. but we have this brand-new video just in to "fox & friends" of what it looks like. inside you'll see piece of history from that day, including a destroyed fire truck from ground zero and personal items, like a teddy bear. the museum also has more than 20,000 photographs and 500 hours of footage. those are your headlines. back to you. >> you walk into it, it takes you right back to that day. >> sure does. >> thank you. karl rove kicked off a political fire storm in the war of words with hillary clinton. he is getting slammed for suggesting clinton might have had brain damage after a fall she suffered in 2012. but he says his words have been twisted by the press. >> elizabeth prann will break it down because that's not what he said. >> good morning. let's start from the beginning. new york post reported that republican strategist and fox news contributor karl rove made the suggestions at a private conference last week. not long after he clarified here on the channel. he says he never claimed clinton had brain damage, you about suggest details are not forth coming about her medical issues back in 2012 and early 2013. take a listen. >> she had a serious health episode. this was a serious deal. she's in and out of the office starting on the 7th of december after she returns. she returns on a friday from the czech republic, but then begins over a month long period where she's got a serious illness, ending up putting her in the hospital. we don't know what the doctors said about what does she have to be concerned about. >> hillary clinton's team has not hesitated when responding. one spokesperson said, quote, they are scared of what she has achieved and what she has to offer. time for them to move on to their next desperate attack. white house spokesman jay carney even took a jab at rove during the briefing yesterday. listen. >> dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge that the president won reelection, including the state of ohio. we'll leave it at that. >> he also said senator john mccain faced similar health questions when he ran in 2008 and is not an uncommon inquiry for high profile possible candidates. back to you guys. >> all right. elizabeth prann live in the gray dc bureau today, thank you. >> thank you. karl rove saying it will matter because it has mattered. as elizabeth prann noted, saying we need to take a step back to 2008 when president obama actually kind of took a shot at john mccain, saying he was losing his bearings because he was getting older, in fact. take a listen to this. >> for him to toss out comments like that, i think it was an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. >> okay. so where is the press attacking then senator obama for suggesting that john mccain was off his rocker? there wasn't any because there is just a double standard when it comes to the left and the right and the mainstream media. >> is it amnesia or hypocrisy? >> i'm not sure. i will say this, karl rove was at an event. now the next thing you know, he's talking about it here, expanding on his comments. what he brought up was something barely reported. the secretary of state in the final days in office disappeared when she was supposed to be testifying. many people thought she's trying to get out of testifying. later they found out she fell, had a blood clot behind her ear, so there was a legitimate health situation here. so was it the fact that it was fatigue or was it after four years of rigorous tension and stress that she was in bad health? she was worn out by the end. she didn't look like the same person competing for the nomination with barak obama. so i think that was an interesting point to bring up. and the fact that she's going to be that age, is going to be doing this again eight years later, i think health is a legitimate issue. i think when they talked about brain damage and something wrong with her, they're trying to corner karl rove into an explanation of saying you're out of bounds. i know nicole wallace who worked with president bush came out and said i thought that was out of bounds. i actually don't. especially after hearing karl rove explain himself yesterday. >> the biggest statement that was made about it at the time were the glasses she had on that people can use if they have traumatic brain injury, concussion. nothing was truly explained. the most explanation that we're look at them right here, the most explanation that anyone was given, as i recall, was a letter she actually wrote to barbara walters. she read it on air after barbara suffered a serious fall and she said you know how it goes, sort of aligning their two situations, trying to be more casual about it. but there were not explanations. therefore, there were speculation about the spectacles and questioning going into an election is normal. >> so with all that speculation, it would be nice for us to all know what exactly did happen because when people had asked at the time, you got vague answers but nothing specific. bill clinton when he ran for president, he did not release his medical records. they released a summary of his health, but they didn't go deep enough for many into his personal health history. so don't look for hillary to do it either. the funny thing is as dr. larry sabato told brian about an hour ago, questions about a person's health is always legitimate when you're running for president. here he is. >> hillary clinton, by the time of the election in 2016, is going to be exactly the same age, 69, that ronald reagan was in 1980 when he was first running for his first elected term as president. of course, health questions are always legitimate. every presidential nominee should have to have a thorough examination and the results of that examination should be revealed to the public. we ought to require that for presidential candidates. >> you like my input during the interview? got, which ha. it was on the cards. >> but it is an issue. people do need to know about the health of the person running for president. karl rove was really reminding hillary as well, look, you really want ten years of this? the road to the presidency is bumpy. two years running, eight years if you're reelected. do you really want that? that also is something that goes into the equation whether or not to run. >> speak of, is senator joe manchin giving up on politics? the west virginia democrat is here to answer that question next. then russia cutting off america's access to the international space station? what? we got brand-new details that's going to get you going on this wednesday morning. ♪ ♪ what does that first spoonful taste like? ok. honey bunches of oats. ching! mmmm! mmmm! mmmm! wow! it's the oats. honey. yeah. honey bunches of oats. this is a great cereal. i wasn't sure what to expect at the meetings. but i really love going. i do! it reminds me we don't have to do this alone. it's so much better to have some backup and to do it together because we all face similar challenges. the meetings keep me focused and motivated. and i have a newfound determination that i'm 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>> i do. i believe that we can pass it. the bipartisan fashion, brian. that's the way it should be done. the other thing is when i say clean coal for west virginia, clean coal for america. we still depend on coal. we can do it better. we have done it better. cleaned up the atmosphere and the climate more than in the last two decades than ever before. we can do more if the government will work with us. they need what we have. we want to produce and provide what we have. the partisanship is another story. >> listen, in this issue, you have democrats -- i don't care what they think. if it's about the election, doesn't matter. you have democrats lined up to get over 60 votes and make the president do this, to get it back to his desk saying this is the sense of the senate. but your majority leader won't do it. when you looked him in the eye and said harry reid, why don't you do it, what does he say? >> i've said harry, i came here to vote. i can take any tough vote. i can explain myself, i can look every west virginiaian in the eye and said this would help our country and state. i can do that. and i'm asking him to open that process up. there is other reasons behind the scene, maybe we don't know about. but him and mitch need to get together and work and move forward as leaders are supposed to do. we're hoping that will happen. >> you're a straight talking guy. when harry reid -- when you ask him why, what does he say? >> basically he says it's a moving target. he makes one deal and they change to another deal. i guess it would be mitch and the majority on the republican side. i'm not in those conversations, so i have to say okay, harry. sit down and work through it. five bills, five amendments, they're all germane to the bill. that should be something we could vote on. i would hope that we could. let me just say this, i think the keystone pipeline is a very extremely important vote for our country and i think also portman and shaheen's bill is very important for energy importance. if we had to forsake and vote on those bills clean we should do that for the sake of this country. >> i would hope it would get done, but we've been waiting for this for four years now. >> i know. >> let's talk about what's happening with coal. are you like marco rubio very much saying to yourself, i'm not sure about global warming, weather has always been erratic and we should not give up on fossil fuels because maybe the environmentalists are putting pressure on us? >> let me just say this, i believe that 7 billion human beings on mother earth here have affected the environment and we're responsible for that. with that being said, you got to find the balance. i'm not a denier. on the other hand, i asked my friends from really the far left if they will, are you a denier? are you denying that this country can continue to provide affordable reliable energy without using fossil or coal or any of that? it's going to take all of us working together. so deniers on both sides are wrong. you don't get anything accomplished by just pointing fingers and saying this person is wrong. we can go along. if we go through another polar vortex that we won't through this win and they take off the fossil fuel, reliability of 10,000 megawatts of power, we're going to have people that their life is in danger and many people will die. we shouldn't let that happen. reliability is the name of the game. reliability, affordability, what we can provide in this country to keep us competitive. it's going to take everything. i don't want to be relying on foreign oil anymore. we don't need to be. >> senator, when are you going to decide if you're going to stay in that chamber? you're out in 2016. people are talking about -- >> 2018. >> i'm sorry. i know it's been frustrating for a governor. might you run for governor again? might you run for president? >> brian, here is all i've said. basically i don't want my time here to be nonproductive. and it has been a nonproductive time for me. that's frustrating for me. but yet i'm seeing things differently. i'm prepared to do things, i'm prepared to work across. i will not go and campaign against a sitting colleague. i won't raise money against a sitting colleague, whether democrat or republican, whether they're my dearest friend or maybe not. i'm not going to do that 'cause i think it's disingenuine to look them in the face the next week and say, listen, will you work with me? how can you work with me if i was raising money against you and trying to beat you? i'm not going to do that. i'm putting myself in a position that i can work with anybody coming together. i have said this, i want my time to be productive. i have an awful lot of good, productive quality public service to give. i'm going to wait until the 2014 elections are over. i'll see the lay of the land in washington and west virginia and hopefully i'll see where i can be the most productive and where i can be, that's where i'll go. >> very much up in the air. >> very much. >> with the mine disaster on monday. >> it's horrific. i called both of the families last night. i don't know the details on it. we'll get to that. the safety of our miners is the foremost thing and we'll continue to do everything we can to make our mines as safe as possible. >> that's when you were kind enough to join us for the first time after that mine disaster when you were governor. senator joe manchin, thank you for joining us. >> still joe, that's the most important thing. >> that i know for sure. thanks. straight ahead, brand-new calls for a committee to investigate the scandals at the v.a. hospitals. but eric holder says no thanks? 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>> at 13. my story isn't that unique. even today. most kids begin this process early on, believe it or not. the issue becomes whether parents and society is paying attention. >> why? >> because at that age, between 13 and 18, you can really make a difference in a kid's life in terms of changing trajectory. >> in terms of statistics, one in four young people that use alcohol or drugs before the age of 18 technically becomes addicted. so when you think about right now the big conversation, legalization of marijuana, will that help or hurt addiction? >> i don't think legalization is a good idea. the two most damaging drugs on the planet to the individual and to society are both legal, nicotine and alcohol. so do we really need another legal drug? and big business is definitely going to take this over in terms of the money that's involved. it's huge amounts of money. >> most people when they're walking through adick and running to or from drug, alcohol or nicotine, are doing it privately, but it affects everyone. 'cause it affects their whole family. it really affected everybody when you were arrested during a major election time. how did you get through that and what was your rock bottom? >> right. the -- people have to remember is this is a brain illness and also a genetic piece to this. i was 13 when i began this process. so i had the genetics. i also had what -- we know today that trauma, an adolescent who suffers any kind of trauma in their adolescence is much more susceptible to this illness and culturally it was an entirely different situation back then. we know much more today, we're paying attention and there is good science today. kids have a real opportunity to avoid this issue if it's picked up early. >> it can cost them their life. it almost cost you yours. >> absolutely. >> your rock bottom moment as you describe it is? >> there is a lot of rock bottoms. what we try to do today is elevate the bottom. i hit bottom and bounced along that bottom for six years. addicts have an enormous capability to tolerate the intolerable. but today we're looking to elevate the bottom. we're telling people, you don't have to go there. you don't have to go to the bottom. there is ways out. >> how do you break the cycle and advice for the parents who right knew are looking at these statistics need it? >> i work with great team centers. these people -- treatment centers. they know how to talk to parents. it's important that parents pay attention and don't sweep it under the rug. know your genetic legacy. know where you come from. my kids know their genetic legacy. my kids, if they go down that road, they get talked to and there is boundaries that are set. this is what -- this is really an issue that has to be dealt with in the home. >> sometimes it's dealt with with shame. how do you address that? >> the science addresses it. this is not a shame-based thing. this is not a moral issue. this is a brain illness. american society of addiction medicine calls this a brain illness. it's not a matter of bad choices or bad behavior. >> i would say the first step here that you discuss would be to check out this book for so many parents and people out there who literally have family members suffer from addiction. this will be a life -- >> what addicts know is this book will show people what addicts know and will help normal folks live an enhanced life. >> christopher kennedy law ford, we thank you for inc. bringing -- bringing us this great book. >> thank you, elisabeth. coming up, brand-new calls for a committee to investigate the scandal at v.a. hospitals. but eric holder says no thanks. is it political cover for another scandal? 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we're not going to investigate this, even though it could be criminal. we're going to go ahead and let the v.a. do it first. then if we need to get involved, we'll get involved. >> so you have jeff miller op one side, wrote a letter to the president saying, hey, this is serious enough. we've got long delays, preventible deaths, botched care when it comes to our veterans. this deserves an independent commission to look into it. then you have eric holder who is saying no, we're just going to monitor it. it's on our radar. no need to jump in. i thought monitoring was for something that actually felt as though it was running smoothly, just in case something is going on. we now know something is going wrong here and our veterans have their lives at risk as they return home under this care system. >> this is the most political justice department that we can remember. having said that, there is nothing political about this. veterans are apolitical. they are wearing these veterans out hoping they would die to keep their percentages die and it continues to grow. every day we come in, there is another state with another problem. the attorney general walks away. so senator bernie sanders starts to speak about it and i'm wondering, what's this socialist who holds caucuses with the democrats have to say and harry's assignment every day is bring up the koch brothers. >> there is right now as we speak a concerted effort to undermine the v.a. so the point is you have government entity itself, social security, enormously popular. medicare enormously popular. postal service popular. v.a. popular. what are the problems? the problem is that all of these are large governmental institutions and you have folks out there now. koch brothers and others, who want to radically change the nature of society and even make major cuts in all of these institutions, or maybe do away with them entirely. >> way to go, bernie. so he's been able to, in his mind, successfully connect the koch brothers with what's going on at the v.a. that is one of the dumbest sound bites i've heard in a while. for him to say that they are undermining the v.a., that's wrong. we need to investigate the v.a. there are dozens of people who perhaps have died because the v.a. in the management was doing something that was not up to snuff and now for him to say that, that's just crazy. >> to put them in the victim seat. he's saying the v.a. is the victim, under attack by the koch brothers. go figure. >> he listed everything that's not working. medicare is buried in red ink, social security is buried in red ink. you have the post office, they invented red ink. and now he's pointing to them as institutions that might be popular. but none of them is effective. they all have to be streamlined and reformed. it's not a matter of getting rid of them. nothing is work! >> next time you see story about what's going ton at the v.a., remember, it's the koch brothers, according to senator sanders. >> right. >> let's turn to something that works quite well, ainsley, she's here. >> thank you. filling in for heather. the pentagon approving a transfer for private bradley manning to get gender treatment. after going to prison convicted of leaking top military documents, manning changed his name to chelsea and requested hormone therapy. the treatment is not possible in a military prison, only in civilian prisons. and new this morning, american astronaut back on earth after a six-month stint on the international space station. but russia says that he might be the last one to go up, at least from america. they're cutting off america's access to the space station. vladimir putin firing back over ukraine sanctions, saying russia will not help the u.s. launch astronauts into space, this despite america paying them $60 million per launch. we just learned international monetary fund chief christine lee guard is withdrawing from speaking at smith college at their graduation. she was derailed by protesters. she joins secretary condoleeza rice who decided not to speak at rutgers for the same reason. >> students get together as among faculty to make sure students who have opinions they don't like get disinvited. >> earlier we said whether underground founder bill heirs spoke at a graduation in 2008, but he was disinvited as well. and take a look at this picture. it will melt your heart. a firefighter saving this kitten, giving the animal oxygen after being rescued from a fire in washington state. thankfully the kitten is going to be okay. the owners also escaped unharmed. what a sweet story. all right. now i am told i'm handing it over to you, brian. >> all right. thank you very much. everyone is writing me for the last month and saying, what about hockey highlights? i'm waiting for them to get deep in the playoffs. rangers, penguins game 7, winner take all. the third period, 2-1 rangers. things getting hairy when the puck rolls close to the penguins' net. it's almost kicked in. but the penguins keep on coming. rangers won a dramatic game 2-1. let's talk basketball. looks like charles barkley at 6' 4, 260, and shaquille o'neal, 7-foot, 300 pounds, won't meet for a mix the martial arts match. they floated the idea last week and even gave fans a preview of the type of fight. is there a script and rundown on that show? the reason they canned it, quote, shaq says, barkley backed out. i'm serious. i would kill him. i would definitely kick his blank because i'm from the street and he's not. you're also seven foot and outweigh him by 100 pounds. fencing may be an olympic sport, but tell that to a north dakota state university. they're banning it, swaying the sword-like equipment, known as foils, are deemed weapons. and as such, possession of use of university owned or controlled property is prohibited. the sword has no actual blade or sharp tip. the team is now forced to move off campus. that's a quick look at the world of sports. i guess the biathlon would be out. >> you don't shoot people. you shoot targets. >> that's a quick look at what's happening in sports. coming up, veterans being cheated when it comes to student loans? 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fossil fuels. here to explain, charles payne is here. he made his money how? >> a large chunk of it from investing in things like coal. in fact, listen, his fund right now is worth about 19 billion. about 10% of that is still invested in energy. they won't say what exactly. don't necessarily have to. coal projects all around the world. indonesia. there has been this build up for coal demand. the tar sands out of canada. pipeline deals. it runs the gamut. so it's so amazing in this golden age of hypocrisy, this guy climbs rapidly to the top. >> what's that message? just not here? it's okay everywhere else? >> that's an interesting message for all the democrats who is going to back them. maybe they'll tell their friends outside of this country, coal is not good enough for us, but okay for you guys. it's the worst form of hypocrisy because we've had a war on coal in this country that devastated thousands of american families. great paying jobs gone. it's decimated them. coal is the fastest growing form of energy in the world. right now, the fastest form of energy growing in the world. a couple weeks ago, ge wanted to take over a french company that grinds coal because there is never going to be a treaty upon coal. all the stuff we're trying to do to be great global neighbors by crushing people in these great jobs is a farce and it's nuts. >> and for all the lefties who are driving their electric cars, those electric cars are running on electricity generated by coal. >> absolutely. again, for me it's all the jobs that have been lost. the companies that are going bankrupt. for what? and for this guy to talk about this, i guarantee you, if we could follow him for a 24-hour period between a private jet and the mansions, he probably has a global foot print that sucks up more energy in a day than the average person watching this show in a year. give us a break on this. >> seems so disingenuous, sort of crushing these jobs and then also taking a back seat to the rest of the world when it comes to innovation. >> yeah. listen, the environmentalists, i don't know how they did it. they pulled it off. they have the upper hand with respect to the white house right now. they get their way. listen, this guy wa his money, $100 million this way, he should give that to some of these veterans that we're talking about all day long. there is a lot of other things you can do with that. >> in reality, you have enough votes in the senate to pass the keystone pipeline, this guy doesn't want to get it done, he has enough money. >> the energy revolution in this country has been a god send and it really is the only thing that's keeping us out of recession right now. >> all right. charles payne, king of payne from fox business, thanks a lot. >> thank you. he seems nice. >> he sure does. coming up, she turned around the failing school system in dc, so it may surprise to you learn michelle rhee supports the common core. she'll join us to defend that. first, we'll check in with bill hemmer for what's coming up at the top of the hour. >> good morning. interesting discussion there with charles payne. leaving a lot of opportunity on the table. tea party comeback. we will analyze these election results. we'll see what they tell us in a moment here. breaking news, mining disaster. seems to get worse by the day on this story. and new information on the virus outbreak, what you need to know now. martha and i see you in ten minutes, top of the hour i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase like 60,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. and i earn 5 times the rewards on internet, phone services and at office supply stores. with ink plus i can choose how to redeem my points. travel, gift cards even cash back. and my rewards points won't expire. so you can make owning business even more rewarding. ink from chase. so you can. creators and supporters say it's an educational initiative designed to level the playing field for students all across the country. but not everybody likes common core. >> i feel like the common core is driving a wedge between parents and their children. >> we don't like common core. it's a federal power grab. it's an unconstitutional mandate from the federal government. >> so what does our next guest think about common core? former dc schools chancer, michelle rhee joins us from san francisco with her take on it. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> we've had a number of parents on who were puzzled by -- a couple weeks ago we had on an engineer father who said that he cooperate even help his son with a problem like this. this is an example of a common core math problem. it was jack used the number line below to solve 427 minus 316. find his error. and write a letter to jack telling him what he did right and what he should do to fix the mistake. the father threw up his hands and said i can't figure it out. that's one of the common complaints is the math is so hard for the kids. >> look, i don't think that we should be complaining about having higher standards for kids. the bottom line is that the u.s. is falling behind. we are 17th, 21st and 26th in the globe in reading, science and math respectively. 26 out of 34 developed nations is not a place that we want to be if we want our kids to compete in the global economy. so are we going to have to raise our standards? absolutely. >> no doubt we need standards, but there are some who, for instance yesterday we had governor mike pence of indiana. they were the first state to opt out of common core. now i think there are over three dozen states that have said we just don't like the national standards. we would prefer statewide or local standards. >> i think what people have to remember is this is not a set of national standards that was a federal mandate or anything like this. the common core was actually developed by governors coming together, local states coming together and saying, we want to do something differently. we need higher standards for our kids. and so it was really a locally-driven process. >> but one of the problems is the teachers are having trouble with it. in fact, here in new york state, the teachers union is now against common core. i believe it's illinois, they're against common core in the union as well. that's got a lot of people saying, if the teachers can't even do it, if the big unions are saying no, maybe we ought to start over. >> let's be clear that the vast majority of teachers actually support common core. in fact, by the unions' own admission, 75% of teachers are saying that the common core is a good thing. the reason why union leaders are trying to avoid this is because they don't want accountability now that the common core is actually being tied to teacher performance, the upleaders are saying wait. we don't want any of this. we shouldn't have a situation where we are allowing the union leaders to shirk responsibility. we have to have them accountable for insuring their kids are getting a great education. >> sure. well put. all right. we do need to do that, but none the less, the common core debate continues. it's great to have your opinion, michelle rhee, thank you very much. >> thanks. more on "fox & friends," about two minutes away. ♪ ♪ ♪ (woman) this place has got really good chocolate shakes. 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>> oh! >> harold square. >> somebody gave my mom that coat. >> happy thanksgiving. thanks to bass pro shop. log on to our web site for our after the show show. >> a fierce storm hitting the east coast snarling thanksgiving travel as folks try to get home in time for the holidays. i'm ed henry in america's newsroom. heather: i'm heather childress. bill and martha are off. the storm stranded travelers for hours and the delays had ripple effects all across the country. >> i started down the runway and we got shut down and we had to sit there and wait for them to open the air space again. >> reporter: that woman you just heard, it took her 12 hours to fly direct from austin, texas to newark, new jersey. and she was one of the lucky ones. much of the east coast was hit with a sloppy, wintry mix making for a miserable commute on one of the busiest travel days of the year. 751 flights were canceled nationwide. there were nearly 5,000 delays. put that in perspective tuesday. there were only 140 cancellations. the new york city airports were up to 3 hours and in boston delays were an hour and a half. as of this morning i'm happy to report there are 55 flight cancellations and 352 delays. according to triple aaa we are talking about up to 10 inches of snow. authorities across the east coast are warning drivers to be careful of slick, icy roads today and tomorrow, even if the storm has passed. ed: there are also hundreds of people without power. how are they doing? >> reporter: 200,000 people are without power. in maine they have woken up to total darkness. it's unlikely those customers will be able to restore power in time to cook their turkeys. public works officials were out in full force in new jersey yesterday. there were 200 traffic accidents when they declared a state of emergency. >> we always like it after thanksgiving. but we are here and we are geared up and the crews are ready to work. >> we thought it might be safer to wait for everything to be cleared up. >> good news from the thanksgiving day parade. it will be a cold day but the wind won't be bad. >> in other news things are cool off in ferguson after -- things are cooling off in ferguson after last night. three days after a grand jury announced it would not indict officer wilson in the shooting death of michael brown. de -- demonstrators are still taking to the streets including los angeles. dominic, after a mostly quiet night is there a sense evenings could reignite? >> reporter: there most certainly is. details are coming out about the two men arrested friday, the feds picking them up with explosives. it appears they were plotting to blow up the st. louis arch and assassinate the county prosecutor robert mcculloch. we have bad weather on this thanksgiving morning. the temperature will go up a lot. it will be 61 degrees saturday and the -- and the improvement in the weather will bring the protesters out. as the weather conditions change and people are able to come out it increases the possibility of confrontation here. heather: what is being done to catch the looters, arsonists, vandals, the businesses that were leveled and all the people who don't have jobs. >> reporter: they are calling on the state police to help them round up the people we saw monday night and tuesday night going around damaging and looting the buildings here. you can see on the screen at the moment, this is a liquor store that was looted for the second time. you can see how the rioters came rushing in and started helping themselves and trashing the place. incredible video of a woman calmy pouring milk on the flames and saving the building from burning down. they will be using video evidence to identify the culprit and the from there they will start arresting people hopefully. the community wants to get over this. you are hearing people in the community that they are helping parole billings get back on their feet with charitable donations and financial contributions. heather: so unfair to all those good people who do live there in ferguson trying to celebrate thanksgiving. thank you so much. ed: the republicans crafting their response to the president's executive action on immigration. this is the next big spending bill and a possible government shutdown looms. oopters warn those tactics have backfired on the gop in the past. daniel, when the president was in chicago a couple days ago you think he might have slipped up and given republicans tam anything. >> he went off the teleprompter after being heck manied by immigration activists. he said why are you heckling me. i just took an action to change the law. previously they had been arguing president obama's amnesty order was within the confines of the law and here was an admission he is change the law. ed: on that very point, congressman bob goodlat is one of the republicans leading in the the hearings. listen to what he had to say. >> the constitution says all legislative authority shall rest in the congress of the united states. pts article two says the president shall take care to faithfully execute the laws. it doesn't say the conscious can act and if the congress fails to act then the president can acting. either he has authority understood the law or he does not. i and a great many other people say he does not and that will be the subject of the hearing. ed: we heard republicans say that again. there will be a lot of hearings and criticisms but in the even the republicans won't stop the president. >> reporter: republicans are unified in the fact they are against obama's executive order. i haven't heard a single republican say they are for it. there are 6 democrats in the senate saying they are not sure they are in favor of president obama's actions. there are some disagreements as to whether or not it should be tackled in this congress or she should do a small stop gap funding measure and tackle it in the next congress. but i think these are small disagreements. i think ultimately they can send a bill to president obama's desk that funds the rest of the government that isn't controversial and make president obama make a decision as to whether he signs the bill and keeps government open or whether he chooses not to and closes the government. ed: the incoming senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said there will not be a government shutdown. he tried to take that off the table. this is an early test for mitch mcconnell, isn't it? >> if they send president obama a spending measure that keeps the government open but doesn't fund these prove moves and president obama decides not to sign the bill, who is keeping the government open or closed? i think republicans like mitch mcconnell make the argument president obama just closed down the government. ed: i feel like we have been down this road before. but for today we'll take a break. happy thanksgiving *. good to see you. heather: u.s. specialal forces leading a mission to rescue hostages held by al qaeda in yemen. ed: brazen robbers crashing a store into a target store. police say they were after one thing. hetd * at the white -- heather: at the white house, executive action of a different kind for the holiday. >> i don't call this amnesty. but don't worry, there is plenty of turkey to go around. ♪ p...push it real good! ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ oooh baby baby...baby baby. if you're salt-n-pepa, you tell people to push it. ♪ push it real good. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. i'm pushing. i'm pushing it real good! ed: an american airlines plane make an emergency landing. pet plane took off again for chicago just a few hours later. heather: we are getting reports that u.s. special forces conduct a raid attempting to free an american and briton *. but al qaeda says those two westerners were moved by the time the troops arrived. but they still rescued 8 hostages. happy thanksgiving. it will be a happy one for these 8 hostages. we used drones before in yemen but apparently this was a boots on the ground operation. >> this operation requires precise intelligence in order to be effective in order to have a good outcome, much like the bin laden raid, intelligence was the key. in this case it appears the hostages we were trying to get have been moved a few days earlier. i'm sure haul other aspects of -- i'm sure all other aspects of this op were. heather: if the hostages were moved it means there was some sort of leak along the way. >> we were in syria trying to rescue hostages and they had been moved. but in this case this was an operation being run in conjunct yemeni forces. -- in conjunction with the yemeni forces. you have to start wondering whether somebody there is tied to al qaeda and put the word out we were going to run that mission. heather: we talked about the amount of the money received by these groups, al qaeda in the arabian florida specificall -- n peninsula received from hostages. many times it's not just al qaeda that's taking these hostages, they are being assisted by tribesmen there in the yes then region. how much can we rely on the government there to assist us. >> that money issue is big all over north africa. where our nato allies who have pledged never to pay ransom have paid $25 million to get their hostages out. when it comes to these radical elements operating outside the government's control, anyway they can get a hostage, any way they can make money. al qaeda has a handbook out teaching people how to take hostages. isis is using ransom as a way of making money. it's spread out virtually anywhere there are groups or tribes or clans willing to take westerners, knowing they can get money out of them. heather: you have been involved in numerous operations in the middle east. you were specifically involved in the release of the beruit hostages. is there anything we are not doing correctly at this point when dealing with these groups? >> we have seen a lot of activity. i give credit to the white house for returning these missions. it's always going to go back to intelligence. i think it's critical as in the bin laden mission that we try to share nothing with the host country. not that we don't trust them all the time. but it only takes one person inside that group of people knowledge toobl say on -- to sa. and before you know it the bad guys are up and they tried to penetrate the government. we need to continue to do it. we do not want to pay ransom to get hostages out. it sets a bad precedent. heather: what should it say to other terrorist organizations? >> not only did we free 8, we killed as many as 8. that should be a warning. we grabbed guy in downtown tripoli who was involved in benghazi. we can go anywhere in the world often with the help of another government, often without. i wish we were doing that against isis targets in iraq and syria. we can do these things and do them well. we have the force and we have the capability. we just need the leadership that says let' let's -- let's do it. at some point we'll have more decisive leadership that wants to do this. we have run these kinds of missions in iraq and afghanistan continuously throughout the war. nighttime missions, day time missions by our most elite special operations forces working with the afghans, sometimes working with iraqi special ops. heather: it makes me proud to be an american listening to you now. happy thanksgiving and happy thanksgiving to all our troops serving overseas today. ed: buffalo, new york coping with major damage after that epic snowstorm. we'll show one business that potentially lost millions. heather: some bold robbers couldn't wait until black friday. >> i would like to wish happy holidays to my family in queens new york and my girlfriend. happy holidays to all. i'll be home soon. airbornee all the way. bla . so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about america's favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal. every day i say, "i'm gonna quit smoking." then i stop for gas, a coffee and there they are. cigarettes. it's like going on autopilot. right? 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[laughter] but don't worry, there is plenty of turkey to go around. heather: monica crowley is a fox news contributor and reporter for the washington times. mac and cheese were the two turkeys' names. do you find amnesty funny? >> i'm always up for a great joke but leave to it this president to take a lovely and charming and sweet and non-political event like the annual pardoning of the turkeys to take a sarcastic jibe at t republicans and something deadly serious like amnesty and what many believe to be a grave violation of his presidential responsibilities. he just can't help himself. he can't even enjoy a moment like this. he has to inject politics into everything. i'm always up for a good joke but this seems inappropriate. heather: this isn't the first time he has been accused of politicizing something. he has been accused of politicizing ebola. do you recall last year when he par dornd the turkeys, the organization for action which was a non-prove it social welfare group? they came out with this list, the things people should talk about around the thanksgiving dinner. and they were talking about how you should talk about obamacare with your relatives. they did that last year to politicize the holiday. >> we got lectured on how we should gather around the thanksgiving table which they are still doing. if you want to go out today and do a little shopping after dinner you will get bombarded with people who have clipboards asking to sign up for obamacare. last year they had pajama boy with his hot chocolate. christmas morning took you your family about obamacare. the politician are everywhere with this administration. especially with policies that are highly unpopular with the american people like obamacare and amnesty. heather: i think it last numbers we saw. 5%. people think the executive packs on immigration was not the right move for the president to do. >> he's always been flippant when it comes to his routine abuses of power and disregard for the constitution. the will of the merit can people. he's lad these sarcastic asides. now, though, i think he's grappling with the final two years of policies that are unpopular with the american people. i think he feels if he jokes about them they will become more palatable. and it's not going happen with something as serious as the future of our country. heather: people are going to hear this segment and get on twitter and say come on, it's just a joke, don't you have a sense of humor? does it speak to something on a wider platform? that being the president's regard for what the american people say and have to believe. the chat evening republicans on this. >> sure he is. like we say, i heard the president be very funny. he has great comic timing. my hat is off to him on that. when you are talking about unilateral executive action on amnesty. a lot of people on both sides believe is unconstitutional. believe of violated his oath of office to execute the law. the republicans he has been taunting them, he did yesterday with the par dorng of the turkeys. taunting the republicans to try to do something about it. try and stop me on this. there are tools the republicans do have to bring this to a halt including defunding his unilateral action on amnesty which is something the conscious at research service over the last 24 hours have come out and said in an analysis that the republican congress does have the constitutional authority to do that. when he says bring it on. you might want to be careful what you wish for because the republicans have some instruments they have to use. >> there are several democrats concerned about that executive action. i wonder what the first lady has to say about the names. mac and cheese. i don't think that's on her menu and the president pardoned them. mac and cheese, it's okay. >> did you notice mrs. obama was not present. so maybe she did have an issue with mac and cheese. maybe she wanted spinach and broccoli. ed: i don't think the first lady boy cod the event. i think monica is a good addition to any table. i have had lunch with her before. she is awesome. heather: do you think the first lady would eat mac and cheese? edwhere no, she made -- ed: no, she made it clear. maybe pop the turkey in the oven. we have unique advice you might enjoy. >> reporter: they know how turkeys sound. >> turkeys are smart so you have to sneak up on them. >> i think they run away because they don't want to get eaten. >> you get a bow and arrow. >> twas the night before thanksgiving. these first graders know all about thanksgiving and what it takes today to cook a turkey. >> i like turkey. >> you bake it in the oven, and then you get all the bones out. >> it's just one of my favorites. >> it tastes really good. >> you put it on the microwave. and i cook it with a frying and. >> 20 minutes. >> reporter: what do you put on the turkey to make it taste good? >> i don't really put anything on it. >> maybe some spicy stuff. or maybe ... >> reporter: these and 7-year-olds say turkey isn't the only thing on the table. >> what's that type of -- is it stuffing? i never tried stuffing. >> i like to eat stuffing and cookies and bread. >> you get other stuff like sometimes just ham and sometimes you have rolls and you have all kinds of stuff. including corn. a lot of people like. >> i guess carrots. i can eat them any holiday. any day. i'll eat apples, of course unless they are just -- i really like it. report prr vision of turkey legs dance in our heads. one lesson they will take away from this special recipe. thanksgiving is about more than just the meal. >> i invite my family over to my house and gather around them. and say what i'm thankful for. >> i'm thankful for texas. >> reporter: that's from our affiliate in austin, texas. of course they are going say barbeque sauce. do you put barbeque sauce on the turkey? heather: no, but we do fry them. do you put barbeque sauce on your turkey? ed: i have never done that. my daughter is 10 and she loves vegetables. my son is 13 and he never met a vegetable, ever. the first lady would not like it. he's pretty skinny, by the way. heather: i like the giant turkey leg. we have some new details from the grand jury files on ferguson. including why officer darren wilson was not carrying a taser the day he shot michael brown. ed: a new recall over faultiy pair bags affecting tens of thousands of vehicles. >> i'm deployed with the 18th airborne core. tip would like to wish my family and friends in san antonio, texas, a happy thanksgiving. i miss you so much and i'll see you soon. i love you. good morning everybody. we are about to make more deliveries to more places than anybody on earth. we have the speed. we have the technology. and we have the team. we made over 15 billion successful deliveries last year. 15 billion! football has a season. baseball has a season. this is our season. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. for every way you make chicken noodle soup, make it delicious with swanson®. heather: a major automaker turning to be rocked by safety issues'. toyota recalling 40,000 vehicles in japan as part of the an airbag problem and further recalls may be coming after officials say they are looking into another airbag issue. the airbag problems blamed for 6 deaths and dozens of injuries. millions of cars being recalled worldwide. ed: the grand jury files say officer wilson said he was not armed with his taser and he didn't like carrying it around bates was too heavy and clunky. is this an important revelation? does this tell us anything in terms of maybe he should have had that tears and could have used non-lethal force again michael brown? >> i think at this point it's important to remember these new detail are the highly speculative about the effect of what it would have meant if he would have had the taser available. the grand jury did consider that testimony. darren wilson went on record saying he didn't carry the taser, it was too clunky. even despite that the grand jury decide not to indict. so the question isn't what effect it will be in a criminal context. it will be a question of what we can do going forward as part of this federal investigation into the probe and practice. ed: was he supposed to have the taser? >> i don't believe he was supposed to have the taser. that's the type of fundamental change we need to see implemented as part of this pattern and practice probe into the ferguson police department. we have seen in the past these types of investigations can result in agreements being reached between the local law enforcement agencies and the justice department where improvements are made to the police operations and this is the type of positive change president obama keeps calling for and the brown family keeps calling for in the wake of their son's death. ed: criminal charges were not brought on the local level. but you mentioned the potential federal case led by eric holder. eric holder is planning to step down. i know the bar is much higher to bring federal charges, but with eric holder stepping down soon, is he under pressure within the administration to bring a case even if it's not there? the legacy item? >> it many an excellent question. many in the legal community view the recent statements by the attorney general about the ongoing federal investigations as being more after political gesture than an actual viable legal avenue. recently the attorney general reminded the public that there are independent investigations going on that hah been going on since day one. and by doing that, he's trying sea swimming some of the massive -- he's trying to assuage some of the disappointment but he might have inadvertently created a false sense of hope that there will be more criminal charges brought against officer wilson. ed: michael brown's family has been doing a series of interviews. their attorney said the community brown lived in. and benjamin croft, the attorney for the family, he was talking about the african-american community and it might suggest that he was profiling due to a racial bias. i'm not saying he was, this is the allegation being raised by the brown family. could that play into a potentially federal case. >> i'm sure itments being reviewed by the justice department. they are conduct their own independent investigation. unfortunately the legal burden is so high with the federal ross cuter would ultimately have to show -- the federal prosecutor would have to show officer wilson intended to violate brown's civil rights. ed: state of mind. in the heat of the moment it's hard to figure out. >> the evidence we have seen being released, the testimony, the forensic evidence, it just does not appear to have enough to suffice to carry that very heavy evidentiary burden. ed: we appreciate you coming in. a lot of people hoping for peace and quiet over this holiday. heather: the world's top oil producing countries meeting in austria as fuel prices continue to fall around the world. some leaders calling for drastic measures to reduce excess supply. what it could mean for prices at the pump. ed: that holiday gift that's strengthening more than just a boy's hand. introducing the new philips norelco shaver series 9000 with contour detect technology that flexes in 8 directions for the perfect shave at any angle. go to philips.com/new for savings on shavers and trimmers. innovation and you. philips norelco. this is the equivalent of the and this is one soda a day over an average adult lifetime. but there's a better choice. drink more brita water. cl thank you. ordering chinese food is a very predictable experience. i order b14. i get b14. no surprises. buying business internet, on the other hand, can be a roller coaster white knuckle thrill ride. you're promised one speed. but do you consistently get it? 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>> reporter: they say production is high and demand is slowing but saudi arabia is looking beyond the oil price and look at what's going on around the world and some of these conflicts we are watching in the middle east and europe paint a good picture why saudi arabia is willing to accept a lower price. russia and iran are big backers of the assad regime. so an effective strategy to hurting assad is to hurt his financial backers both iran and russia. a lower oil price would hurt iran and russia and disrupt their ability to fund and supply weapons and money to assad. it also may help rediewlts aggressiveness of russia in the ukraine and also keep iran as at the negotiating table over its nuclear program. there are a lot of reasons for saudi arabia and the gulf countries to want to keep the powell prices lower. among them is russia and iran. whether that will stay long term or whether they will respond to these lower oil prices isn't clear. but russia and iran need high oil prices to balance their budgets. by bringing count price of oil it does hurt iran russia. iran -- iran and russia. ed: lawmakers on capitol hill are away for the holidays. a firestorm continues to grow over the president's executive actions on immigration. heather: a thanksgiving travel nightmare. many folks still trying to get home at this hour after a massive storm. the latest forecast coming up. t. then i'll use a bunch of them. what are you doing? 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>> that could change and immigration activists are going to be pushing for this so the first step was pressing this white house to make this change. remember president obama initially said he couldn't do this. then political pressure was applied, he did it. their next strategy is to add to the benefits that have been given and that be something that will be pushed through the 2015. but republicans do have control of congress so they will be doing oversight of this and some republicans are looking to defund aspect.of this immigration order. but they don't have the votes to override a veto. >> is the incentive that you won't be deported? when i hear the president say this is your chance to come out of the shadows, get right with the law, it's your chance to come out and pay taxes. many of these folks, they are already here, they are getting paid, they are not paying taxes. what is the incentive? is it just the deportation, the lack of deportation that he believes will make them come out and do this legally? >> that's a great question. there are concerns people won't come out of the shadows. they will be concerned about deportation even though they have been guaranteed they won't be deport. then how much do you prove you have been here five years. the documentation that goes along with that. some said there could be some fraud with that. how this is implementland be very, very africay. heather: seems to be a lot of planning that needs to take place. thanks for joining us on this thanksgiving. see ya. ed: heavy snow and cold weather keeping many protesters off the streets of ferguson. meantime the past and present mayors of ferguson criticizing governor jay nixon of missouri and his response. >> he failed the city of ferguson, he failed the state of missouri. he should resign. >> there were many elected officials in the region, sphaid wide and others who -- statewide and others who tried to help us reach out to the governor and eventually those troops were deployed, unfortunately too late. ed: the governor taking a lot of heat about it was pretty quiet last night. >> reporter: i think the authorities were glad to have a cold but boring night. this is florissant avenue, where the concentration of the gunfire and the looting and burning was. now it's a ghost town but for the police officers standing sentry. you did have some demonstrators last night who braved the bad weather. they mostly confronted the national guard. a lot of foul language. a lot of attempts to provoke the marching up and down the street. but no major incident. authorities are glad to report only one arrest. >> reporter: this could go one of two ways. this could be a lull and then the protesters would come back and it could get violent the days ahead. then they are hoping they will turn the corner and everything has calmed down. >> i think the intelligence the authorities are getting, there are planned demonstrations for friday, saturday with the intention of disrupting commerce for black friday and the holiday shopping period. a lot of people are hoping it continues with peaceful demonstrations. but there is that element that wants to come out here and wants to start trouble. ed: mike tobin we appreciate your reporting this past week. heather: critics slamming missouri's governor for not doing enough to prevent the violence in ferguson. >> he was and isn't during this process and was not on top of it. being the lead spokesperson is frankly beyond me. heather: did governor nixon get it wrong? 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>> pretty much precisely as you indicated. happy thanksgiving to you, too. this is one time when we are grateful for a little cold weather moving in. there has been light snow in st. louis the past day and a stiff wind. and that apparently has helped some folks decide to stay inside. meanwhile, only two arrests last night, and the people of missouri are still scratching our heads about our governor's non-action monday night, where was the guard and where was the governor. >> you have been sharply critical of him. has he responded to you in the last 24-4 tight hours? >> the pattern of the last six years of no communication has held. this governor has a very tight circle of the lawyer hospital surrounded him during this 16 years as attorney general. he pretty much talks to them. and very few others who he doesn't have to. and forget me. i'm not the issue here. the issue is that the desperate pleas by the mayor of ferguson, mayor james noles. during the critical evening, he could not get the governor. i spoke to him yesterday, he's still trying to cope with the situation with no communication. i can't understand the governor's failure to communicate with the mayor of the city affected. ed: you are a republican and government is democrat. he says this is all politics. what is the explanation he has given for why the national guard was not out in full force that first tight? why did it take 24 more hours? >> it's not me he owes the explanation. it's to the people of missouri and we have not had one. there was a press conference mid-afternoon. day before yesterday in which he dodged and did this usual dodge. the news media in this state its starting to get on to that. and they are not going to accept empty cliche's. and that denial that you just referred to was sort of a non-denial denial. i never alleged anything was a political motivation. then he denied it was political. he was denying what was never alleged. it's simply the fact.are there for everyone to see. it involves no political charge. the governor did not communicate with the mayor. when the mayor was desperately trying to get his attention. not only did the governor not. but he could not get any member of the governor's staff top respond. ed: let many get down to whether there will be account bibilityd on what yo -- will beany accounu are talking about. it appears to be getting bert as you noted. but in the days ahead do you expect some sort of hearings on the state level to get to the bottom of what went wrong so this doesn't happen again? >> hearings are coming early in the new year. the legislature convenes the first week of january. a panel will be convened to look into this. that panel will have seen a power to compel the testimony if it's not voluntary from all members of the governor's administration. ed: what is your message? we have been talking a lot about the governor. i want to end on two hopeful floalts beyond all that. what is your message to michael browns family? >> a message of great sadness at their terrible loss. it's a tragedy when anyone dies and the circumstances we witnessed here in august, and we pray for that family. we pray for peace and healing and reconciliation. our loving arms are around the brown family. and we wish them all the best as they come forward and deal with this terrible loss that we all mourn. i was -- the only statewide * elected official at the funeral and i mourn for everyone else there. ed: i asked our correspondent on the ground mike tobin about this. you talk about the lull overnight. this could be a calm before the storm and this weekend we could see more trouble or things could be getting bert. what's your sense? >> i hope and pray and i can say i believe we have seen the worst. we turned the corner that brighter days lie ahead, that we can have some peace and reconciliation. surely in the thanksgiving and in the coming holiday season for all concerned. ed: lieutenant governor peter kinder, we thank you for your time today. heather: an american teenager busted. accused of trying to hop a flight to the middle east to fight with isis. ed: a wild predator on the loose in china killing farm animals. is a really big deal.u with aches, fever and chills- there's no such thing as a little flu. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. prescription tamiflu attacks the flu virus at its source. so call your doctor right away. tamiflu treats the flu in people 2 weeks and older whose flu symptoms started within the last two days. before taking tamiflu tell your doctor if you're pregnant, nursing, have serious health conditions, or take other medicines. if you develop an allergic reaction, a severe rash, or signs of unusual behavior, stop taking tamiflu and call your doctor immediately. children and adolescents in particular may be at an increased risk of seizures, confusion or abnormal behavior. the most common side effects are mild to moderate nausea and vomiting. so don't wait. attack the flu virus at its source. ask your doctor about tamiflu. prescription for flu. female announcer: get 36 monthsnksgiving weekend interest-free financing. plus, big savings of up to $400 on beautyrest and posturepedic. even get three years interest-free financing on serta icomfort and tempur-pedic. plus, free same day delivery, set-up, and removal of your old set. when brands compete, you save! but mattress price wars ends sunday, thanksgiving weekend, at sleep train. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ ed: okay, you're really not going to believe this story. a pair of russian killers on the loose in china. siberian tigers released into the wild by russian president vladimir putin, and they're now killing goats and chickens. the tigers are being monitored by chinese wildlife protection workers. president putin released three tigers in may. two of them entered china where a farmer woke up one morning to find dead goats everywhere. >> translator: i locked the shelter yesterday, but the tiger broke the wooden fence and killed the goats. ed: russia rescued the tiger cubs two years ago nursing them to health and teaching them to hunt. wildlife experts are taking measures to protect them from hunters, and farmers are being warned, keep their distance. heather: yes. ed: unbelievable. there's a russian bear joke in there somewhere -- [laughter] heather: i just want to see a bare-chested putin -- ed: that is inevitable that he's going to ride to the rescue. heather: we'll have that story tomorrow for you. well, a teenage terror suspect out of jail this morning. he is out. a magistrate released the 18-year-old into the custody of his parents. the minnesota teen accused of trying to travel to syria to join isis. tom linden from our affiliate kmst, fox 9, is in minneapolis with more. >> reporter: when no one was looking, this teenager slipped out a side door of the federal courthouse, the first local terror suspect anyone can remember who's been released before trial. astonishing even his attorney. >> i was very surprised. i was very hopeful, i certainly gave kit everything i had. >> reporter: in court, an fbi agent detailed how they intercepted him last may before he got on a plane to turkey. another man believed to be fighting for isis in sir or ya. but the timing may be critical to the case. he got his passport on may 5th, but the state department didn't declare isil a terrorist organization until may 15th. ten days later, just 13 days before he tried to fly to turkey. >> how does that make you a terrorist? it just might make you show that you want to fight, but it doesn't make you a terrorist doing atrocities by any means. >> reporter: fbi agents had surveillance of him as he left school and walked two blocks to this mosque here in southeast minneapolis, including right before he tried to get on the plane to turkey. and if it sounds familiar, well, it's come up before. it's part of the alpha rook enter of will mixton -- wilmington where he was radicalized, becoming much more religious and talking about jihad. the center kicked out a subject for allegedly radicalizing their young people. >> it's reopened, it attracts good people but sometimes, you know, bad people do slip through the cracks and actually do go there. >> reporter: and the attorney believes ultimately that's why prosecutors wanted to keep her client locked up, in hopes he may start naming names. >> will i think that's why they want to keep him in custody, so he's forced to help them out in some way. >> reporter: to literally squeeze him so he would cooperate? 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the macy's thanksgiving day parade. maria was out there earlier. the managing partner at chapwood investments joins us with more on this and, hopefully, some good news. so let's start first with the heating oil prices which are falling, but as natural gas prices are rising. >> right. and they sound like they're one and the same, and they're not. right now is happening is anything that is oil related is going down in price because there's a lot of oil being put onto the market, and the world market -- don't think about just the united states concern is slow. so when you have a lot more supply and a little bit of a tempered demand, not a lot, but a little tell perked demand, you're going to see prices go down. natural gas is a very different animal, okay? and natural gas prices are not affected by opec. you're starting to see the demand for natural gas is picking up a little bit, and you've seen those prices rise. yo all, this is a very good thing -- overall, this is a very good thing at a very good time. heather: why? i'm sitting around my kitchen table talking to my husband, why is it a good thing? >> because if oil prices are dropping, the one thing we're missing here is gasoline prices are tied to oil prices. we don't use too much natural gas, so that's not too much of a concern, it's the oil as we enter into, obviously, the cold season and at the same time at the gas pump, we have a little bit more money in our pocket. not a lot because prices are still rising across the board, but it's a good thing and, quite frankly, even better because as we enter this time of year we often times think oil prices are going to rise. it's not. more money in our pockets. heather: is that something that's going to stick around or short lived? >> you never know. i believe this is going to stay around for a little while because we do have a slow global economy, more oil going out there, and opec just a little while ago -- heather: yes. we talked about that. >> they talked about how they're not going to cut the supply. overall right now it looks really good going into, you know, the first quarter of next year. heather: okay. so you mentioned gas prices. we, you know, have to get to the grocery store, get the kids to school, get to work, and gas prices continue to slide. we take a look at some of the states specifically five states across the country, arkansas, alabama, florida, illinois, louisiana. will this slide continue? this is good news. >> it's good news, and i don't know if the slide continues, but i think the price point is going to stay this way for a while which is good. and there are a lot of people who come to my office where they drive quite a while, and this is going to help everybody, you know? they off times tell me how much -- they oftentimes tell me how much it costs them to come to work -- heather: they want to stay home and work from home. >> there's a little bit of that. at a time like this right now, thanksgiving, this is really good news for everybody. heather: and the chi overall because that means people will do some shopping. >> we certainly hope so. maybe the presents will be 10% better this year than last year. heather: is it true that traditionally, you know, at the beginning of the year the gas prices will start out lower but then increase as we approach, say, the memorial day holiday? >> we like to say there's a rule of thumb, and some people look at charts and say so, but right now it's all dependent upon opec because we're dependent upon what they do. until we get more oil produced in this country, we're dependent upon what they do and what they say through opec. heather: all right. throw the charts out, but right now definitely something to be thankful for. we appreciate it, ed. happy thanksgiving, by the way. >> you too. ed: there's a new danger in the skies, those small remote-controlled drones. in the past six months, pilots reported more than two dozen close calls, many of them at our nation's busiest airports. our favorite reporter -- i think they put that in there -- mike emanuel takes a look at washington. happy thanksgiving, and where are these close calls happening? >> reporter: well, ed, many of them are during takeoffs and landings when commercial airplanes and aircraft are at altitudes where drones are also flying. the washington post obtained records revealing some 25 incidents since june 1st where small drones came within a short distance or a few seconds of crashing into a much larger aircraft. the data indicate a lot of these close calls are happening near major airports including new york's laguardia and jfk, washington's dulles international and reagan international airports. and the 25 close calls are among more than 175 sightings since june by pilots and air traffic controllers spotting drones near airports or restricted air space. while many of these sightings are from general aviation or helicopter pilots, airline cruise have also reported them. ed: most of these drones are not very big. what makes them dangerous when they get close to a commercial airliner? >> reporter: you're right, they're made up of plastic and are just a few feet in diameter. most of the drones that have been spotted are small equipped with cameras which are becoming more and more popular with photographers and those who like flying them as a hobby. the real danger is if it gets sucked into a jet engine or crash into the propeller of a smaller plane, and on a few occasions pilots have changed their course to avoid an unmanned aircraft. with drones becoming more up popular, this could become a bigger challenge. e d: happy thanksgiving. heather: who's the favorite? ed: we're buddies. heather: yes. and we love you both. ed: thank you. heather: democratic senator chuck schumer taking some heat after he takes aim at obamacare. >> to aim a huge change in mandate at such a small percentage of the electorate made no political sense. so when democrats focused on health care, the average middle class person thought the democrats are not paying enough attention to me. heather: that didn't sit too well with house minority leader nancy pelosi, and she is firing back at senator schumer. ed: going to want to hear more about that. plus a grateful woman thanking her dad for the gift of life. >> i call him my superhero now. he said one time your mom and i gave you life 35 years ago, so i'm giving you life again. i'm an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about america's favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal. heather: thanks for joining us here on "america's newsroom" on this thanksgiving. one woman look at her father in a whole new way, as her superhero. she had been on dialysis for nearly two years until her father learned that he was a match, and he did not hesitate to donate her a kidney. >> there was no thinking at all. let's get it going. >> he would, um, go to all his appointments that they asked of him, and he did it without grumbling. >> they want children, and the longer she's on dialysis, she couldn't do it. heather: that's a great story. the 35-year-old says she is excited to start planning a family of her own and this thanksgiving she will definitely indulge. ed: top democrats, meanwhile, divided over the president's health care. house minority leader nancy pelosi taking aim at democratic senator chuck schumer after he said this: >> but unfortunately, democrats blew the opportunity the american people ghei them. we took -- gave them. we took their mandate and put all of our focus on the wrong problem; health care reform. now, the plight of uninsured americans and caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed. but it wasn't the change we were hired to make. ed: ah, lead arer pelosi, one of the law's biggest cheerleaders, pushed back. she said in a statement: we come here to do a job, not keep a job. there are more than 14 million reasons why that's wrong. jest -- jessica tarlove is a consultant, least that booth is executive director of blackrock group. happy thanksgiving to both of you. >> happy thanksgiving. ed: jessica, you know, quite interesting that democrats are fighting over this. i spoke to someone at the white house a couple days ago who said that reference from nancy employeesty, 14 million reasons, the sign-ups are going pretty well right now. they feel like they're turning the corner, and yet now somehow the leaders are fighting over it. why? >> i think it's difficult times. there's conflicting messages everywhere. i mean, the latest polling on obamacare, it's only popular with 37% of americans, so there is room for what chuck schumer said. that said, i don't think it's helpful, i don't think it pushes the democratic cause, and i think what he should be saying is talking about ways we can reform obamacare to make it better, to make more americans excited about it and to boost already, sign-ups that are already going well. ed: lisa, interesting because some democrats, former white house aide like john favreau immediately went on twitter saying, quote, i don't remember chuck schumer giving that advice when he was privately and publicly championing the affordable care act in 2010. dan pfeiffer, meanwhile, said the broader point is obama ran to so long-festering, politically-hard problems that others shy away from, a direct shot there at chuck schumer. i thought democrats were saying before the midterms this was going to be an asset for them. >> they absolutely were, and chuck schumer was one of those individuals. this is a stunning add admission from the senator -- admission from the senator. this is someone who really has his finger on the pulse of the democrat party. so for him and someone who once said it would be a liability to vote against obamacare to now intentionally reverse course is not only, is not only an example of just to be unraveling and unpopularity of obamacare, but it's also a repudiation of his earlier statements and comments. ed: jessica, the broader point that senator schumer was trying to make among others was he felt like the president and democrats writ large should have been focusing on helping the middle class more on economic measures but, again, that's a flip from what he said in 2010 about health care. at one point on "meet the press" he said it really does help, of health care, deliver for the middle class. the parade of horribles, particularly the worry that the average middle class person has that this is going to affect them negatively. how in the world did democrats back in 2010 say this is going to help the middle class, republicans said then, no, it's not, and now you have people like chuck schumer admitting four years later it didn't really help the middle class, he seems to be saying. >> yes, and i think it's part of a larger strategy as we head towards 2016. we've shown that we can't win necessarily on just obamacare, so he wants to bring economic reforms back into it. we've done really well on things like raising the minimum wage. i wouldn't be surprised if we heard more from him about immigration reform which he's been a champion for, we need a comprehensive bill in congress and not just go it alone on executive actions the whole way through. so i think that you're seeing, you know, a new election cycle. we have an election to win in 2016. i think the democrats can do it, and obamacare will be part of that, but more broadly speaking, as senator schumer said, we need to think about all middle class issues and not just health care. ed: lisa, i wonder if you see democrats here, we've been focused on arguing themselves into a corner on what's supposed to be an asset for them, health care, what about republicans? you've got one minute on immigration. is this something we are going to see republican leaders in the new year actually pass a bill, strengthen the border, or are they going to let that issue fester out there? democrats have their problems, but what about the republicans? >> right. well, i think what we've seen is house leader speaker boehner has said that republicans will pass something. i don't think it's going to look like what president obama decade because what president obama did is against the will of the american people and against the will of congress, and it's not really helping americans, and it's not really helping hispanics because, ultimately, what it's doing is not solving any of the root problems that we're facing with immigration. if anything, it's going to incite more problems like we saw along the southern border this summer. ed: lisa, jessica, happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving to you as well. heather: shopping malls could be pushing a whole lot more than black friday deals. how obamacare could become a frustrating part of your holiday bargain hunting? ed: are they going to put that in brookstone? i want to see that story. black friday shoppers already lining up, sometimes without clothing to snag the -- now, wait -- heather: i want to see that one. ed: we've got an expert to give you the upperhand so you don't have to expose your upper body. >> my name is major kevin evans, i want to wish my family, friends in indianapolis, indiana, happy thanksgiving and happy turkey day. 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>> you know, unfortunately, i find that i run a couple of comparison searches maybe on price grabber and then on shopping.com to get an idea of where the cheapest prices are. so you can just use one of those search engines, and it'll help pinpoint the best deal. heather: all right. so what is best, to go out on black friday or to wait until cyber monday? >> you know, it depends on what you're shopping for. if you're shopping for popular items, you might want to get out there early before they sell out to. in fact, stores are releasing doorbuster deals today so you can burn off the turkey and start snagging up the sales. kmart is offering $50 off a samsung galaxy 7-inch tablet plus $20 in rewards points for loyalty members, and they have a buy one, get one a dollar off footwear. so there are lots of deals, but certainly you can save on cyber monday too on gadgets, on clothing, even on airfare. heather: andrea, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. pack your patience if you're out hitting the mall. appreciate it. >> thank you. ed: too much turkey shouldn't be the only thing slowing us down on thanksgiving, but mother nature clearly does not agree. how the weather is snarling travel and how long the extreme conditions will last. ♪ ♪ ed: happy thanksgiving, everybody. thanks for joining us on "america's newsroom," i'm henry in for bill hemmer. heather: and to everyone at home as well, i am heather childers in for martha maccallum. thanksgiving dinner just a few hours away for folks on the east coast, and now the race is on to make it in time for the turkey. and you're looking live at times square which was a wintry mess yesterday. ed: indeed. and that bad weather sparking hundreds of cancellations all around the country, thousands of flight delays at the airports. while the weather has improved in spots, the travel trouble may not be over yet. heather: brian is live in our new york city newsroom. please give these folks some good news. >> reporter: how are you, heather? remember last year much of the northeast was hit with a storm, but it appears this storm has caused a bit more travel havoc while knocking out power for hundreds of thousands. now, as of this morning an estimated 400,000 people are now without power in states like virginia, up the coast to new jersey, new york, pennsylvania and in maine where more than 83,000 customers woke up this thanksgiving to total darkness. now, thanks to more than 10 inches of heavy snow in some parts, officials say it's unlikely those customers will be unable to restore power in time for thanksgiving dinner. meanwhile, the sloppy wintry mix of snow, rain and ice making for travel havoc, one of the busiest -- on one of the busiest travel days of the year as some 46 million people hit the road and skies for thanksgiving. yesterday 751 flights were canceled nationwide according to flightaware.com. to put that in perspective, on tuesday, the day before u there were only 140 canlations. -- cancellations. in new england a foot and a half of snow in the mountains fell, some 20 inches in west virginia and records were broken in albany, new york, and concord, new hampshire, where there's more than 10 inches of accumulation. and to the roads, well, they were icy i and slippery. about 90% of travel hearse choose to drive during the holidays, and new jersey governor chris christie declared a state of emergency in his state where more than 200 accident were reported on new jersey roads. so far we have about 67 cancellations and over 60 delays at airports -- 600 delays at airports nationwide today, and we'll monitor that as many people have rescheduled their flights to take off today. thankfully the good news is it looks like the worst weather is behind us, and that's just in time for people heading back home, you know, in the coming days, heather. heather: yeah, for some of that turkey and stuffing. something to be thankful for. thank you, brian. >> reporter: no problem. ed: fallout overnight around the country from the ferguson grand jury decision. police in los angeles arresting at least 130 people who refused to disperse during a third night of protests there as hundreds took to the streets downtown l.a. for several hours. and in oakland police arresting 35 protesters following a martha spiraled into some incidents of vandalism. therethere were also scattered protests in ferguson last night, but no additional property damage thankfully. one question sure to be on the many minds there, can this be, you know, a day of peace on a day of thanksgiving? let's go to mike tobin live in ferguson. it seems like the weather kept protesters home last night, pretty chilly out there. >> reporter: yeah, cold, wet and boring, and i don't think the authorities out here were complaining at all. we saw the demonstrators show up particularly in front of the ferguson city police department, and mostly what we saw is them standing for a long time taunting the national guardsmen who were standing century in that miserable -- sentry in that miserable weather. in the end, updating my number from earlier, two people were arrested. no major clashes with the authorities. as you come back out here live, look up the street, this is where the concentration of the trouble really has been throughout the process. you can see now it's a ghost town but for the police officers. no indication things are going to change today. ed? ed: mike, we spoke to the lieutenant governor of missouri last hour as you may have heard, and he said there were hopeful signs as you're reporting now, although they were still concerned about what might happen around black friday and into the weekend. >> reporter: a lot of the information what the cops are looking at is some demonstrations are planned for black friday and planned for saturday and the subsequent days with the intention of disrupting commerce. so that is some of the obstacles that the police are looking to tackle here in the coming days. ed mike toe by on the ground in -- tobin on the ground in ferguson. thanks for that report. heather: well, after word today that ferguson protesters may actually crash the macy's thanksgiving day parade underway in new york city, going on right now outside of our studios, and we are getting reports that they may have done just that. with six people arrested after something was thrown from a roof. organizers had reportedly been using social media to encourage people to make a statement using the hashtag stoptheparade to fuel the fire. one twitter user calling for protesters to, quote, stomp right over the macy's thanksgiving parade. this after thousands of protesters marched for a second night in manhattan chanting "no justice, no peace, jail for killer cops." and justice for mike brown. ed: and the protests over ferguson even reaching across the atlantic with more than 1,000 demonstrators marching through london to condemn the decision not to prosecute the police officer who shot and killed michael brown. tearing down fences in parliament square after demonstrating outside the u.s. embassy. some of those relatives of black britons killed in incidents involving police there. heather: the white house is rolling out a new obamacare outreach program targeting you, the consumer. listen to this. the malls around the country, they are now allowing promoters to approach black friday shoppers and urge them to go to healthcare.gov to enroll. it is a big change from last year's celebrity-driven ad campaign. but critics say one thing is the same, the holidays are being politicized. leland vittert live from washington. i would not want to be one of those folks approaching somebody and all of these black friday crowds. i mean, come on. >> reporter: yeah. people on black friday are crazy, heather, and i don't think they want to talk about health care, but you never know. [laughter] in addition to the great deal on clothing, you, too, may be inundated by fliers on health care. the much-lampooned health care navigators are being allowed to hawk obamacare around the country, and as we explain, the very crowds of black friday -- tough to get anything done in there. the move comes in open enrollment version 2.0 which at least appears to be going a little smoother than the disastrous web site rollout that we saw last year. the new program focuses more on outreach in these types of events than it does the celebrity advertising that went on. still at least one democrat is having a little bit of second thoughts about pushing obamacare through right after president obama's win in 2010. >> but it wasn't the change we were hired to make. americans were crying out for the end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs, not changes in health care. >> reporter: and if you are wondering if there are any doorbuster deals on obamacare, no dice. it appears even on black friday you, as well as the taxpayers, will be paying full price. heather: all right. well, you know, we can wish for anything. happy, leland. happy thanksgiving. >> reporter: and to you. ed: can you imagine being a guy in the middle of the crowds saying, hey, you want to get some health care? get out of my way. [laughter] house republicans are crafting their response to president obama's decision to go it alone on immigration. a look ahead at what's expected to be a very busy week on capitol hill. heather: plus, a thanksgiving tradition at the white house, the annual turkey pardon doesn't always go as planned, as you can see here. [laughter] but what actually happens to those lucky birds after they are spared from ending up on this dinner table? >> hi, my name's crystal neely. i just want to wish my dad happy holidays in fayetteville, north carolina. love you, bye. heather: welcome back. millions are mourning in australia today after beloved cricket star phillip hughes died in a sydney hospital two days after being struck in the head by a ball during a match. prime minister tony abbott paying tribute saying hughes was, quote: a man living out his dreams. >> obviously, our thoughts and prayers are with his family, with his friends. he thought the player in his prime should be killed playing a national -- the thought that a player should be killed in his prime playing a game is shocking and sobering. we should be conscious of the risks that our sports people run to give us the pleasure that they do. heather: hughes was wearing a helmet at the time, but the hard leather ball hit an unprotected area on the back of his head. deaths are rare in cricket, but hughes is now the second player in two years to sustain a fatal blow. phillip hughes was just 25 years old. ♪ ed: meanwhile, the house republican leadership is getting set to respond to the president's executive actions on immigration with both the house judiciary and homeland security committees getting set to hold big hearings next week. meanwhile, over in the senate senator ted cruz of texas is saying republicans should not fear a government shutdown over immigration. let's bring in byron york, washington examiner chief political correspondent. first of all, i think you're down in alabama with your family, happy thanksgiving. >> good morning, ed. happy thanksgiving to you too. ed: these hearings are coming up, what do you think republicans will actually do though? can they do anything to stop the's actions, or will this just be a whole lot of talk that we see at times in washington from both parties and they actually don't end up doing anything? >> well, there's two important things to remember about this. one, republicans will, indeed, respond. that is going to happen. and, two, they don't control the senate yet. democrats control the senate right now. harry reid will be the majority leader until the first week in january. so republicans are in no stronger position today to do anything about this than they were, say, during the shutdown battle in october 2013. so what you're seeing is i think they're focusing on, republicans are focusing on a funding battle to try to do a very targeted, surgical move to defund the specific offices inside the department of homeland security that will enforce the president's order. but they can't do anything now. and you remember, the government's going to run out of money on december 11th, so what they have to do is pass a bill to fund the entire government until next year, and then in january when there are probably 54 republicans in the senate, they will try to strip away funding from those specific offices dealing with the president's order. ed: byron, you make an important point about the overall government running out of money december 11th. last time there was a lot of back and forth who was to blame for the government shutdown. the fight that ted cruz led in the senate over the president's health care law. what's your sense now when the incoming senate majority leader mitch mcconnell says there's not going to be a shutdown this time, there are other rank and file republicans who seem to want to leave that option on the table. what's your sense about the mood of the republican leadership, what's the likelihood this time? >> i think mitch mcconnell said it all, they don't want a government shutdown. i do think there's been a little rethinking about that october 2013 shutdown can among republicans because if you remember at the time, there were people who said, you know, the republicans have just shot themselves in the head. they've thrown away any chance they had of winning the senate in 2014. well, look what happened. they won the senate in pretty spectacular fashion. but i think what you'll see the senate leadership go along with in january once they're in control is a measure that would fund the entire government except for this very specific office to defund the president's order. and remember, even to do that if they have 54 seats, they're still going to need some democrats to go along with them. we know there are democrats who are opposed to the president's order, but we don't know if they'd go along with the republican measure to fight it. ed: byron, there's been another element added to this, but republican lamar smith said, quote: ed: what do you know about this ston the washington times about this? and how this may be a big deal at these hearings coming up this week? >> well, this is more an obamacare issue really than an immigration issue, but it is true the employer mandate is coming, and employers who have large numbers of employees will have to provide coverage to their employees or face a penalty. now, illegal immigrants are not covered under obamacare. republicans did not want them to be covered under obamacare. so an employer could hire them and not have to pay a penalty. it's like there's an incentive to hire an illegal immigrant. now, some democrats would say, well, gee, let's just make obamacare cover illegal immigrants in this country. republicans don't want that, so this is basically another argument from republicans that the employer mandate plus the individual mandate are, in obamacare are just bad law and should be scrapped. ed: byron, we just showed a live picture of the capitol. m looks awfully calm, it's bubbling and getting ready when they come back next week. >> things are really going to change. ed: happy thanksgiving, good to see you, byron. >> thank you, ed. heather: president obama keeping with tradition this thanksgiving, pardoning turkeys at the white house. this year's lucky birds mac and cheese. you can see cheese getting his pardon on yesterday. so what happens next? well, the turkeys will retire to morvin park in virginia. in past years the birds went to george washington's mount vernon, before that some even headed to petting zoos, even disney world and disneyland, not a bad way to retire. pardons date back as far as the 1800s, but president reagan back in 1981, that might be one of the most memorable. this turkey clearly getting a little spooked out on the white house lawn. ed: yeah. he sort of jumped up. you see the feathers pop up. what people don't know, the retirement is pretty cool, but a little secret before they go to the white house, the night before they usually stay at the w hotel, they get them a little suite, and they have to -- how do i say this -- they have to put some special plastic covering on the floor -- health health why -- heather: why? ed: the turkeys are not exactly potty trained. they get a sweet night and a suite at the w hotel. the animal activists know they get pardoned -- heather: do you get a discount if you have the room next to them? ed: i think you should get a free room. they're pretty loud. heather: and what about this menu that's been released? ed: oh, the white house has all kinds of traditional things, but there's about a dozen pies on the list. you were talking about that, the turkey, the ham, the stuffing, macaroni and cheese, sweet potatoeses, mashed potatoes, green bean cass casserole. i think i must have seen banana cream, pecan pie, cherry, you've seen this hashtag thanks mrs. obama over the school lunches, there's been a lot of division over that. i'm not sure -- heather: i want a photo op of the first lady eating the pie. you know what's missing? fat back and chicken and dumplings. ed: you see that down south. you don't see that at the white house. heather: i'd like to see that there. ed e ed a new concern at some of our nation's busiest airports, how small drones are creating a big danger there. weave we're live with the details. heather: plus the event that gets democrats and republicans to agree on something. it's true. how our very own ed henry played a part in it. 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[applause] >> jack kemp really was a leader on healing and confronting the -- he was a strident civil rights activist when he was a football player, had a wonderful quote that i just found hilariously slightly off color about having showered with people of different races, you kind da gotta love and get a love that comes out of that closeness that you have. [laughter] i don't want to get myself in trouble with his family. ed: we're going to air that one. >> in this space right now which will contribute so much to the unfinished business of bias against, around race and poverty in america that's locked people in a caste because it's so hard with a criminal conviction in america, my hope and prayer is we actually can do something on this issue. >> i'll see him on that and go to tax reform: this is an idea whose time has come. it's an idea that jack kemp championed. i would be remiss if i didn't say a year from now i think i'll be very thankful for aaron rogers -- [laughter] on fire these days. i had to find a way to sneak that in there. if we start the year on a good footing, if we start the year on the right tone, then i think there are a lot of good things that can get done -- >> let's find a way to take that, those trials and lift them to a higher level. >> that's right. >> that's what this country needs. >> when this new hand is outstretched from this new majority, give us a chance to -- >> well, i've been a minority for a long time. -- [laughter] and i'm about to be one in the united states senate. i will take your hand anytime you outstretch it to me. [applause] ed: you can see that outstretched hand from paul ryan to democrat cory booker. now, they're talking a good game, we'll see, about prison reform, tax reform which a lot of our viewers are interested in, whether republicans in the house and senate can get that done -- i'm not sure where senator booker was going with the shower analogy but, of course, paul ryan from wisconsin had to get aaron rodgers and the packers mentioned. the packers aren't playing until the weekend, but our colleagues at fox sports would want us to tell you cowboys/eagles -- heather: who do you pick? ed: i'm going to actually go with the eagles. my fantasy team, i've got the eagles' defense. heather: i'm going with cowboys just because you're not. [laughter] well, a tough going for millions of americans. we have been telling you about this, a nasty nor'easter delaying hundreds of flights on the busiest travel day of the year. and for some the rough weather is far from other. ed: plus, you know how it goes, you can't wait to dig into that turkey day feast, and when it's all over, you feel -- well, a little bit awful. we'll tell youou exactly why, bt more importantly, what you can do about it. >> happy thanksgiving. guess what, it is a messy one for hundreds of thousands of americans now without power. after a wintry mix of rain, sleet and snow in spots, the stormy weather making for a lot of travel troubles with hundreds of flights cancelled, thousands delayed. driving also a big problem with the snow slicked roads causing dozens and dozens of crashes, and the snow may not be over. and the weather's for not much better in the west where a powerful rainstorm is looming. meteorologist three molina his life for us. can i just say by humbug to you? >> good to see you. we have picked up some significant snowfall totals. more than a foot of snow accumulation from west virginia all the way to maine. we are still dealing with the snowfall in eastern portions of maine. behind the system, much colder in parts of the east. current windchill temperatures in the 30s as far south as places as atlanta. a chilly thanksgiving day for you, current windchill temperatures in the 20s in new york city, much colder in the northern plains and in the midwest. 8 degrees below zero in minneapolis and single digits in rapid city. exiting parts of maine still producing rainfall. some lingering snow showers across parts of the northeast and also in maine. brand-new storm system arriving at it his areas of heavy rain across oregon and even into western parts of washington state and portions of the northern rockies. the forecast for today is relatively quiet especially when you compare it to yesterday. some showers in place across places like north carolina in rally. chilly temperatures for your highs only in the 40s, cold in the northern plains. teams for the fargo's. look at the forecast for l.a., highs in the 80s with sunshine, beautiful weather in store for them out there in southern california. >> something for them to be thankful for. thank you, maria. jon: a study finds excess weight accounts for 5% of new cancer cases in developed countries, half a million new cases worldwide every year. dr. debbie, i was trying to do it slowly. happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. bill: what can people do about to sit down at the thanksgiving table. tell us about this study. >> we don't know exactly why it causes cancer. if people have other risk factors, it might take them over the edge so we think it can prevent 10% of cancer. bill: not the only, but i he cod be the biggest risk. >> why do women have a bigger risk? it probably has to do with estrogen. before menopause women have estrogen from their ovaries. after menopause they should have less estrogen. you can ask a get estrogen produced by the fatty tissue. you can see it in men as well, same thing can happen with more estrogen. the biggest thing is actually weight loss. that wouldn't be related to one thanksgiving meal, that would be more of a long-term commitment. now the city also talks about developed countries versus developing countries. second with our diet and lifestyle, makes a huge difference. developing countries people die a lot younger they may not live long enough to develop these cancers. bill: talking about things giving dinner, you cannot have too much of a good thing. around 700 calories. a single holiday dinner can easily top 2000 calories, which is the recommended daily calorie intake for an entire day. americans like to get their fill on thanksgiving and christmas but it can leave you feeling pretty awful afterward. what his recommendation for people first on the meal itself. how do you deal with it? >> if you want to try things, go ahead. better to go slow and steady because the huge rush of food and calories usually makes people feel worse. and how do we control our blood sugar? insulin regulates it, when you eat your body produces insulin to control your blood sugar but if you have a ton of calories all at once it is not sure how much to put out there, so it usually overshoots. they usually feel really tired, so if you eat a little slower, your body, just a little better to that. bill: short-term and long-term. when you are at work on a normal day should not be sitting at your desk all day. likewise you shouldn't be sitting on the couch immediately after a big meal like that, what can you do? >> he can walk before the things giving meal because that helps the body burn more calories and get adjusted so if you are eating if you can spend more time standing, walking or take a walk afterward, that will help. for people you don't want to go sleep right after even if you are tired. you won't burn as many calories, but if you think about gravity, eating more and bolger out a little more in the middle but also can bolger out upward. it pushes on your lungs a little, you feel short of breath and when you lay down if you think about your stomach acids, gravity helps plummeting downward, otherwise it is like heartburn. even when you go to sleep you want to use as many pillows as possible. bill: you mentioned it is not just one meal, it is a long-term deal with exercise as well. >> of course. bill: you cannot exercise tomorrow for an hour and everything will be better. >> short-term i can stay active it will help the symptoms today but overall it is much more of a long-term issue. bill: good to see you. heather: still to come, the feds uncovering chilling terror plots targeting one of the national treasures and a local press good with ties to the ferguson grand jury. why sources are questioning whether the suspects were even capable of carrying out the alleged plot. our legal panel weighs in. plus, vladimir putin facing new troubles over a deadly cross-border raid. this has nothing to do with ukraine and everything to do with a very large cat. >> i am here at afghanistan and i want to say hi to my family back at salt lake. i love you, happy thanksgiving. heather: well, and unusual protest in paris, farmers releasing sheep under the eiffel tower as a statement on the government policy on protecting will. this heavy printers are killing many of their animals, estimate is 250-300 wolves currently living in france, and wolf attacks apparently on live stock have been on the rise since 1990. bill: vladimir putin also blamed for another cross-border raid this time it is not ukraine. here is putin with a tiger cub raised in a special animal protection program. that cute little guys all grown up now. they were released into the wild earlier in the year and now reportedly on a killing spree in northeastern china suspected of slaughtering at least 18 goats on a farm since sunday alone. the farm's owner says he knew something was up when his dog started barking but when he checked, he found nothing unusual. >> unlocks the shelter after hurting the goat yesterday but the tiger enter the shelter by breaking the wooden fence and killed the goats. >> piece of a plan to compensate him, but urging him move the goats to a more secure location, obviously. heather: some new details and a suspected terror plots in missouri. two men facing federal weapons charges accused of planning to bomb the gateway arch in st. louis. investigators say they planned to kill st. louis county press getting attorney robert mccullough and ferguson police chief tom jackson. the suspect allegedly bought what they believed was a pipe bomb in an undercover sting. joining us now defense attorne attorneys, thank you both for joining us and happy things given to you. >> happy thanksgiving, heather. heather: i understand has been an indictment in this case but it doesn't mention the bombing or the potential killing. where do we stand right now, david? >> they have them on the purchase of a stra strawman fora firearm. one of these guys bought a firearm for another guy able to possess a firearm. that will hold them without bail. that is really nothing compared to the attempt to purchase what they thought was a bomb with a commitment to purchase two more bombs and the big charge they are going to face no question about it is conspiracy to create mass murder. they planned on place the palms in the arch at st. louis, a tourist attraction at could have killed dozens, hundreds, who knows. also to kill oppressive and police chief adding enhancements to the charge of attempted mass murder, so they are in big trouble. i would advise them don't talk anymore. i have been talking to the media, zip it, stop, don't dig a hole any deeper. heather: their names brandon baldwin and holly david. any chance they could get out before they face is much more serious charges? >> let's talk about these alleged more serious charges. speaking of that things giving meal, i got a little bloated reading because of all the hot air about this alleged purchasing of pipe bombs. as i see it right now, there is no evidence these guys purchase any pipe bombs, in missouri conspiracy to commit murder requires an overt act in pursuance of the crime. right now all you have are these two guys purchasing guns, we think, for somebody else. absent some audio surveillance, video surveillance, possibly some social media blogs where these guys are talking about an actual time, place where they were going to carry out these alleged mass acts of terrorism, i don't see them facing any additional charges. heather: a pair of the there was a second hearing argument should be held in jail. from what i understand, the fbi was there, and agent presence and they have photographic and video evidence they were ready to play. am i wrong about that? >> that is exactly right. i have videotape of these guys purchasing what he thought was a bomb committing to buy two more. obviously they are not what you sell him an actual bomb, but he attempts to purchase the bomb is the act that you need for a conspiracy. that is what will get them and i am telling you now as a defense attorney, which i would advise him to do, stop elaborating on what happened because right now they have videotape, photos, the federal firearm form. they are toast. they have the videotape, that is what they say. >> if they had it, i think theye would have seen it. unless we have some other evidence to support this, i think this might be the media generated story that isn't there. heather: we will see because i am sure there is much more that will come from it. thank you both for joining us and happy thanksgiving to both of you. bill: a key part of turkey day. the act of being thankful, so how can you do it and make it part of your life not just today. it has to do with being grateful more than one day a year. heather: good idea. ♪ just the thought of quitting makes me want to light up. my world without cigarettes? 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>> we need to be honest. there are a lot of things to be stressed out about today. fox was revealed 58% of americans believe the world is going to hell in a handbasket, and yes, heather, there has been a proven relationship between expressing gratitude and reducing stress, by the way that is nothing new, it says be anxious for nothing but in everything with prayer and thanksgiving let your requests be known to god. if we will make gratitude a part of our everyday life instead of just once a year accordin gorgin turkey and cranberry sauce we can experience less stress in our life. heather: we actually have three tips as you just mentioned, make gratitude part of your daily routine. guard against the tendency to go negative. negative molly or debbie downer. express appreciation to others who have made a difference in your life. >> i think it is interesting to talk about the power of prayer, a lot of people say we are so busy running around, we don't have time. bret baier interviewed a colonel in washington, d.c., a few months back and said you should see it not as a big, long prayer you do every day, it can be like a text message, you cannot even do a small prayer? >> this a practical suggestion for our viewers. before you drift off to sleep, reflect on two or three positive things that happened to you that day and thanked god for them. studies have shown that people who will do that reflect on the positive each night will experience greater level of satisfaction than those who don't. some of our viewers may not feel thankful right now. it is a lot easier to ask yourself into a feeling than to feel yourself into an action. if you start expressing gratitude, you will feel that way. there is a reason this holiday is called thanksgiving, not thanks-feeling. heather: thank you so much, we appreciate your words on this day. bill: good to see you, pastor. a group of turtles with a lot to be thankful today after getting hypothermia. you're going to want to watch this after the break. bill: people not only one giving thanks today. 30 endangered sea turtles recovering from hypothermia at a turtle hospital key west, florida, days after they were rescued from cape cod bay in massachusetts. heather: they are among more than 193 flown to orlando in banana boxes by the u.s. coast guard this week with the restaurant to four other marine animal revocation centers. bill: thank you for not great me for not saying the pecan pie correctly. heather: thanks to my family is at home right now having pecan pie. bill: we are going to to regulate cap. heather: happy thanksgiving fewer family as well. 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"morning joe" starts right now. ♪ here's a political announcement. a political announcement. i saw already this was like two days ago. take a look at this. >> he's been called an elitist. he vacations on martha's vineyard. he has been accused of ignoring the crisis in missouri and overlooking the concerns of the african-american community. hell, i could do that. paid for by romney, 2016. good morning, everybody. it is thursday, august 21st. welcome to "morning joe." a lot to get to this morning. >> boy, we do. >> on the front page of all the papers, we have got news that there was an attempt to rescue jim foley. we start there. the pentagon confirms that dozen of special operation troops unsuccessfully tried to rescue the journalist james foley and other american hostages earlier this summer in syria. the captives were not at the targeted locations and foley was eventually murdered by islamic. >> people are very angry right now about not only about this murder. "the new york times" is reporting they angry this information was released. a lot of people feeling that the information was released so the president could look like he was really engaged. he, obviously, is getting hammered for going out golfing right after this horrifying news. the "daily news" has this on the front page. that actually cuts both ways. a lot of people talking about it. but can you imagine? i mean, both of you, if you're president of the united states and like the europeans pay out these hostage ransoms all of the time but barack obama didn't and what a terrible choice to have to make. >> it is a terrible choice and other countries do it. president obama is vowing not to let up the campaign against the terrorists responsible for the bloodshed. here he is yesterday. >> jim was taken from us in an act of violence that shocks the conscience of the entire world. no just god would stand what they did yesterday and what they do every single day. from governments across the middle east there has to be a common to extract this cancer and a clear rejection of this ideologies. we agree on that a group like isil has no place. >> he was seen smiling on the golf course moments after, along with alonzo mourning, nba star. before this, you heard from foley's parents as well in a news conference so a lot of people are feeling this picture shows a president that is disengaged and a president who doesn't have a sense of tone in terms of the moment. >> there actually two ways to look at this. because, you know, your first instinct is to look at this. right? >> yeah. >> and to say, how are -- and it's the truth. there's another way to look at it too, which is, i mean, you know, george w. bush told us to go shopping, to go to malls after 9/11, show those terrorists. here, i think there's probably one or two terrorists in isis, because this is how they make their money, right? al qaeda funded their operations by kidnapping europeans and getting ransom money, right? and so they are negotiating with spock with a pitching wedge here. he is spock. maureen dowd calls him spock. he is spock. i'm sure there may even be one or two terrorists, with willie, over in vae right now looking at him going, wow, that is one cold bastard. like he goes golfing on martha's ven yard. people might be watching are you criticizing the president or not? i don't know what i'm doing. i just know that this is how terrorists fund their organizations and if the president were in the white house reading his hands and weeping, no, he is out golfing. and it's horrible for the parents, but it does send a message to the terrorists. i'm sure barack obama would say, you know, if we can't go golfing at an exclusive golf course at martha's vineyard and the terrorists have already won. >> i don't think you can say that. >> i'm not making light of any situation, i'm merely pointing out these are horrible, horrible optics domestically but internationally, willie, for terrorists, it's basically like screw you, screw you. we are not going to live by your rules. >> yes. >> try to follow that one. do you know what i'm saying? >> i follow what you're saying. we know this president, this white house has no time or patience what we call optics, theater. i'm doing the job. if i play golf once in a while, so be it. in this case, i always hate the vacation and golf criticism that happens every summer with every president. >> because they should be working 24 hours a day. >> lets jaw say right here. presidents are always working even on a -- whether on a golf course or behind a desk. >> yes. >> they are always working. >> yes. so that is the first part. the second part is but in this case, you had such a horrific act and people saw it and it was on the front page of newspapers and the family was crying. you'd think out of respect, just for the family even, forget what the press thinks about it, for the family maybe take a step back an quietly go about your job. he is attacking isis relentlessly right now. air strikes again yesterday and air strikes this entire month and not like he is sitting back and doing nothing. >> i don't think to confuse anybody here, mika. i could not have do it. i could not have gone out and played golf. i just couldn't have done it. that says, maureen dowd always calls him spock inspect . he is kind of spock. in this case, as maddening it may seem -- i do wonder, though. when you look at these terrorists, what are they thinking? like, they just traded in a war weary sleeping giant. >> right. >> for a pissed off country and the story always ends the same! let's see. no, it didn't. osama bin laden, no, he got a bullet through his eye. saddam hussein got -- no. we actually ripped off his head from his body after he was hung. dresden and nagasaki, they have placed a huge target on their backs by doing this and i'm serious. when are the bad guys going to understand that it's just better to walk on the other side of the street. go ahead. pick on europeans. they will pay your ransom. they are on a vacation from history. again, i'm not being facetious here. there is no jingoism here. this is just stupid. >> nothing speaks the conscience of war weary americans and pictures we saw yesterday all over the front pages. horrifying and you can't just sit and let it go by. >> you cannot let this go by. they have exposed themselves. >> your father, your brother, your uncle. >> they have exposed themselves as the cancer they are. the president of the united states are now calling them a cancer has has to be cut off. >> everyone will agree. >> the attacks now will only accelerate and have as of yesterday. to washington now. bbc state correspondent is back from lebanon. kim, thank you for being with us. >> great to be here. >> what can you tell us what happened, looking at the commando raid, the attempt by special forces of the united states, to go after and rescue jim foley, a failed attempt because he had been moved by the time the special forces got there? >> first off, i'd like to point out we are macking today the one year anniversary of the chemical weapon attacks against syrians just outside damascudamascus. that provoked a brief moment of international outrage at the time which almost led to american and european military strikes against syria, which in the end did not happen. syria one year on is even in a worse president. we heard from the french president yesterday saying if the international community had shown a bit more resolve in pushing for a transition in syria, in other words, if the u.s. and its european allies had gone for strikes, perhaps isis were not to be where it is today. >> kim, can i ask you about that? because there is a debate, obviously, going on in the united states between two pretty powerful democrats. hillary clinton, you know better than anybody, and barack obama saying that it's, quote, fantasy. her position and the president of france position. what is the feeling throughout the international community, throughout the european community will what would have happened? are they on the side of the president or hillary clinton as far as intervening in syria before this madness took over the entire country? >> well, my reading from talking to european officials and from being in the arab world the u.s. left a vacuum in the region. that is very much hillary clinton's view as well. it's debatable, of course, but look at the situation on the ground at the moment, that is very much the feeling that europeans have and i do believe that because of what is happening in iraq, because of what we saw happen to james foley and because of this attempt to rescue american hostages in syria, i think only a matter of time until the press will have to consider the possibility of strikes against islamic militants in syria. the conundrum there is, of course, ininadvertently he may shore your president assad who says he is fighting islamic militants. >> joining us from erbil, iraq, nbc chief global responsibility bill neil li with the latest on the ground there. bill? >> reporter: yes, well, the u.s. air strikes have not stopped since the murder of jim foley. there were at least 14 yesterday bringing to 84 the on total of air strikes in the mosul dam since this campaign started. the big question where did this campaign end? what are its goals? initially stop genocide against a religious minority and to protect you u.s. facilities here in erbil. why is the u.s. continuing its campaign? president obama said yesterday that we will act, we will confront isis, but for how much longer? and how deep is the involvement of the u.s. here in northern iraq going to be? it's easy to start a campaign, not so easy to end it. interestingly, this military operation, unlike so many others in the past that, desert storm, desert fox does not have a name. there is no brand on this operation and no end in sight. >> that is the question, what is the objective now? how far does the united states go? bill, thanks so much for your reporting on the ground in iraq. appreciate. officials hope the tide is turning if ferguson, missouri, following the second straight night of reduced demonstrations. it follows a visit by attorney general eric holder who met with captain ron johnson along with college students and community leaders. he says he understands why there is mistrust of police. recalling when he was stopped twice for speeding and had his car searched. attorney general holder rejected criticism of his trip to ferguson. >> i need to be here, you know? i was a little disturbed to see people questioning why i was here. my answer to that would be why would i be any other place than right here, right now, to talk to the people in this area who are deserving of our attention and we want to help as best we can. >> prosecutors began presenting evidence to a grand jury which will determine if the officer who shot 18-year-old michael brown at least six times should be charged. joining us now from ferguson, nbc's craig melvin. the reports from the ground last night, craig, relative peace. is that what you saw? >> it was peaceful and calm for the second straight night. monday into tuesday, nearly 70 arrests. tuesday into wednesday, more than 50 arrests. last night here, as of 1:00 a.m., there were six arrests. by and large, the half dozen folks were arrested for failure to disperse, disturbing the peace. captain johnson indicated that law enforcement felt like the tide might be beginning to turn here in ferguson. we should note that there were some pretty severe thunderstorms at one point last night, but even before that, we saw the smallest, quietest crowd of protesters we have seen so far on the ground here. of course, the highlight or the headline yesterday, i should say, attorney general eric holder on the ground for several hours meeting with community leaders and many with captain johnson as well and also some time with the congressional delegation and talked with missouri governor jay nixon, in addition to speaking from the heart about his own experiences as a young black man in america. he also -- we should remember here, this is the same attorney general just last week was somewhat critical of the response here in ferguson. at one point saying they should get these damn tanks out of here. but, again, based on what i saw yesterday, based on the folks i talked to last night, it appears, it appears that, right now, peace and order are about to be restored to ferguson. >> we can hope. craig, thank you very much. >> i love that line that eric holder gave, which is, you know, people are criticizing him for being there. he said where else would i be? i don't always agree with this guy but he is right. where else would he be, right? >> it makes no sense. i want to show you a piece of video that came. it's from tuesday night. local police officer threatening what appeared to be a peaceful protester on the streets. >> oh, my gosh. gun raid. gun raid. >> my hands are up, bro. my hands are up. >> hands up. hands up. >> raid [ bleep ] [ bleep ] hands up. >> get back. get back. >> you're going to kill him. >> he is threatening to kill him. >> get back. >> what is your name, sir? [ bleep ]. >> your name is [ bleep ] yourself go [ bleep ] yourself. hello, officer. >> officer, he is trying to kill me. >> what are you doing? >> i know you guys are watching. [ bleep ] he had to be told by another officer to -- >> pointing his gun at people for no reason. >> the st. louis county police department says the officer has been relieved of duty. >> what in the hell? >> i would say there has been a lot of discussion around the imbalance of the police officer in st. louis. it's a bad mix. that was horrendous. i'm making no excuse for that guy. it shows they are tolgs tally unmatched to today's times. >> this guy is pointing a live weapon? what is going on here? >> he being gotated, yes. >> you'd think two weeks into this the learning curve you're not waving a semiautomatic weapon at a crowd with media all around. >> the media is everywhere and this guy in the middle of it pointing a gun. >> i just looked at the video early. i know there was, obviously, someone was rolling television video. this guy was clear knowledgeable that he was being videotaped. so at least you would think he would stop for fear of being seen doing that. >> so he says -- >> but he shouldn't be doing that. >> i'm sorry, mika. he said he thought he saw somebody with a gun so he raised his weapon. he thought he was being confronted. turned out it was a bb gun. he saw something he thought was a gun. the police say they relieved him because of the way he treated the crowd and not the approach he used. >> i would agree with that. if a crowd is goating you, that is incite them even more to tell them, what he said? it's incredible. incredible. >> but, listen. this is, again, this is bush league. there's so many amateurs that have been down there. i sure as hell wouldn't know what to do. >> my gosh, a terrible situation. >> but there are great police officers across america, disciplined forces that know exactly how to do this. and at some point -- isn't the national guard called in? >> yeah, they have been there, yes. >> no question it's a hard job. >> no. i can't even imagine being in that position. i'm not trained to be in that position but there are a lot of great cops. a lot of good cops who are. >> still ahead on "morning joe," 13-year-old pitching ace mo' ne davis is making mat headlines for her pitching in the little league world series. bring you her story in a bit. nick opperman brings us some bizarre shower thoughts. >> if hillary clinton wins in 2016, it will be the first time two presidents have had sex with each other. >> what? >> that never rossed my mind. thank you, nick. >> we really appreciate that. >> i'm flaed he pglad he put th in my mind. >> that is, obviously, in hollyweird. a cat is put on a life saving diet. oh, snucts! >> i want that cat. >> the cat is on a diet. >> life saving diet! what is the cat eating? chihuahuas for breakfast? >> first, here is bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> kale chips for that cat! good morning, everyone. two things to talk about. the heat wave that is gripping the country and then what is going to happen with this tropical disturbance and will it affect florida and the southeast coast. ? we are starting off with your morning commute, if you're in minnesota a lot of rain out and some severe storms. the heat wave is full fledged and it will be here at least a week. from texas all the way to florida and as far north as st. louis, kansas city. that is where we are watching the peak of this heat. easily 95 degrees for about all of next seven days in a row. the heat index will be worse. notice the temperatures in memphis. no signs of a cool down right through the beginning of next week. here is your thursday forecast. i got 95 plus in at least 13 states so that is one of the hottest temperature forecasts we have had so far this summer and it continues right into your friday. and as far as the tropics go the hurricane hunters will fly into this tropical wave out here today. this is projected. yesterday we were thinking the caribbean and gulf and it shifted to the north and now thinking puerto rico and drub and tuesday near florida or the bahamas so all eyes will stay on that. it's too early to tell about intensity or anything like that because the land interaction down there in the mountainous terrain of the dominican republic. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. ♪ shopping online is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? 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"wall street journal" target profits down 62% in the second quarter as the fallout continues over last year's massive data breach. this follows the company's decision to cut its earnings estimates citing a decline in customer spending. target says the credit breach has cost them more than $111 million. >> oh, my gosh. >> "usa today." aaa estimates 35 million americans will venture 50 miles from home labor day weekend with 9 to 10 traveling in cars. >> do you go were in labor day weekend? >> i'm going to have a stay staycation. >> gas is down. >> snoosk, the cat, heading to rehab after weighing just four pounds away from the guinness world record for the world's heaviest kitty. >> they say the family brought the cat named snooks to be euthanized last week. he weighed 35 1/2 pounds and couldn't each walk. the they asked if snooks could go to a foster family and he's on a diet as snooks gets down to 12 pounds he can go up to adoption. maybe he needs baricatric surgery to help him out. >> if you're four pounds away from the record, get the record and then come back down. >> it's like swimming across the english channel. seeing like normandy. >> get snooks to break the record then put him on a diet. a family was removed from a flight after requesting the airline ban nuts because the child is allergic. their child. the family was delayed for a day while they negotiated with the airline. united says while it does not serve bags of nuts, some foods may contain trace amounts in the ingredients. the airline told the family they are, quote, not a nut-free airline for operational reasons. from our parade of papers. the orlando sentinel. seaworld will not appeal a ruling requiring trainers out of the water during killer whale shows. the decision was passed down from osha after a trainer was killed by an orca in 2010. the subject of last year's documentary "blackfish." sea world voluntarily removed trainers following the incident and not allowed them back in since. the park also plans to expand the tank size for orcas. >> this documentary has hurt seaworld. they are struggling right now. from nbc news.com. a woman narrowly missing getting hit by lightning. a woman and her daughter were filming outside when lightning struck the ground one foot away. the mother and daughter are okay but lost their hearing for about a minute after the incident. >> oh, my gosh. the desert sun, after two months, the man squatting in a palm springs, california, apartment, obtained on air b&b has finally left the building. the squatter made headlines in july after refusing to leave the condo. i was wondering where you were, joe. despite only paying for 30 days. since he was living in the condo over a month he was protected by california ten antilaws. the homeowner said he left after incident and the apartment is in good condition but she is not sure she will list the apartment on-site. that company was doing so well. >> they have had some problems in new york. >> what have you done? >> they rent the apartments for reasons other than sleeping. >> yeah. >> i didn't think you guys considered that a problem. >> lots and lots. still ahead -- >> can you imagine how much lysol you have to buy to clean that up? >> look at this guy. >> this is the game of thrones act nicknamed the mountain and what he does in his spare time. look out. plus, live to richmond, virginia, where former governor took the stand yesterday in his own defense. wait until you hear what he said. up next the hottest most reads of the morning including "wall street journal" calling for another war in the middle east. all that and more when "morning joe" comes back. 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"wall street journal" seems to be calling for ground forces. willie mentioned air strikes. what are the options? >> by the way, the map, kim, has gotten so much more complex. as you said earlier, the man who barack obama, i believe rightly said must go, assad, is suddenly our ally in this battle. the iranians suddenly an ally in this battle insofar as they want to see isis stamped out as well. >> they do. although i don't think anybody in washington would describe the iranians and president assad as america's allies today. >> no, they wouldn't, but they certainly are the enemy of our enemy. >> they are. they are. but also president assad in syria was very much key in helping isis develop and form. he is the one who released dozens of islam militants from his prison in 2011 and some of those are now part of isis. when it comes to the strategy, how do you deal with a movement like this in the region, that is potentially changing the nature of societies for the foreseeable fut if they are allowed to operate for a very long time, it does require some military action. i think the president is going about it the right way. it is steady, but surely going forward with more aid for the iraqis, more military aid for the per sh mare stmergas. >> kim, thank you for your perspective and appreciate you being here. >> thanks for having me. >> she is talking about we don't see enough fighting isis inside the arab world. these sort of tactics are going to cause that to happen. i talked about szarkari. he blew up a wedding iraq and arabs said we want no part of. anbar province. this is annihilation. >> they have a lot of money. these are guys rolling in with tanks. you know, we have targets that the united states can strike. these are not guys hiding in caves. they have forces they are rolling through iraqi cities. coming up next on a much different note. pitching sensation mo'ne davis, the 13-year-old fresh off the cover of "sports illustrated" back on the mound last night at the little league world series trying to pitch her squad into the championship game. we will see how she did. plus, alabama football fan and the guy who poisoned the tree, remember him? harvey updike? he is back. we will explain why this may be good news for auburn fans next. we will be right back with more "morning joe." ♪ everybody's excited about the back to school savings at staples. from the customers, to the staples associates. with guaranteed low prices on sharpies. you'll flip out! now go tell your friends. staples, make more happen for less. 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"the washington post" describes him as cool and unruffled under questioning. he described his rise to the top of virginia politics and the significance of sharing the same office as thomas jefferson. he also cited examples of how he has denied donors requests, insisting he never gave special access to the businessmen who offered loans and vacation and luxury items. mcdonnell testified about his wife saying she was tense from his very first days in office and instead of celebrating the governor, he said she was yelling at him over tension of becoming first lady. just moments later, he fielded a call from president obama, the pressures of his marriage were at the core of his defense. he says he couldn't have conspired with his wife because their relationship was in such trouble. >> governor, was this difficult? we have heard a lot of things said about your wife and from you today. was this hard for you today? >> of course. i'm talking about marriage and finances are hard. >> governor, if your father were here, what would he tell you? what would his be with you if he was here? >> he would say be honest. >> that is just heart breaking. heart wrenching. >> his attorney was saying as it continues today they are focusing on the marriage itself. i don't know. i'm torn. it's hard to watch from the outside. obviously, he was one of the most promising politicians to become the governor of virginia, his campaign was pretty brilliant actually, given the tone at the times. he got what needed to be done to get elected and address the concerns of virginia residents. >> it was legal what he took. i just don't understand how any governor could have taken all of those gifts. >> or not known about -- >> gwynagain, legal about it. you look at this testimony and as we say in northwest florida, his wife was a run-away beer truck. she was a mess from day one. >> chuck thoodd brought up this may be the way they are avoiding to attack this. what they want to do is avoid jail time. >> chuck todd can say that all he wants. >> he brought up an interesting -- >> no. there is one witness after another after another talking about her horrible behavior in the governor's mnansion and thee is reams of testimony that suggest that this just isn't a cute planned defense. >> it's raises that larger point about -- you know this -- politicians who spend a lot of people with rich people which they now have to do because rich people have money and they need money to run campaigns. you lose that perspective and suddenly you see everyone around you that you spend your time with has a lot of stuff. >> yeah. >> so it's a natural kind of -- wait a minute, i want that stuff too. >> and they all love you, willie, to do things that will make them millions and millions of more dollars. >> yes. >> i know this. you're living in a shack and these guys -- >> yeah. >> zillionares. >> what a horrible thing to do to save your hide to expose the faults in your maermg to the world and put them out there but they put themselves in that spot. coming up at the top of the hour a new war in iraq? david rotors was once held captive by the taliban. he said new policy needs to be on paying ransoms. >> he was the reporter who escaped from the taliban and quoted this morning in "the new york times" saying, hey, america and europe is not being straight about this. it's time to have this debate on -- out in the open and i think we are about to and it's great to have david here. >> fascinating to hear from him. he is joining the table. plus senator mark pryor goes with nonnot willing to do. explain the surprise campaign tactic he is using. first, our first frontal ice bucket -- >> where are we going? >> not only am i ready and willing to accept this challenge, i am, to my knowledge, the first to do it absolutely make it. >> hollyweird is coming up straight ahead. we will be right back. ♪ huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know words really can hurt you? what...? jesse don't go! jesse...no! i'm sorry daisy, but i'm a loner. and a loner gotta be alone. heee yawww! geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. jesse? 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>> well, i think that what has happened is -- i think the best tribute to jim foley is to debate this. i talked to the foley family. they were told by jim's captors to not go public because the captors, the kidnappers thought an easier way to get a ransom. i can't at all about all of the cases going on and we need to have this debate. there is a debate should the u.s. government pay or not. >> what you've seen up close, closer than any american, first of all, should we keep it in the shadows? should we listen to the terrorists and keep it quiet? or do we need to know an american is held hostage? >> i think it refers to case-to-case and you should in the end refer to what the family wants to do. there were plaqueoublackouts an didn't work in our case. the demand for foley was a hundred million dollars and the problem is when the europeans are paying huge amounts of money, there has been 125 million you talked about that has gone to al qaeda, the record would france in 2013 paid $10 million each, 40 million total for four hostages. and -- >> should we pay that ransom? because the market is, obviously, going up. >> yes. i think it's wrong to have the government pay. i think it creates an incentive. why isn't the united states having this debate with its european allies? why isn't there a joint international approach? >> that is my question. >> for jim foley's sake, let's have a strategy. >> how heart breaking as an american president to sit there, talk to the family and say your son may have to die. i can't pay them. which i thank god i was not in the position that president obama was had in when he had to make that choice but he made the choice. we are not going to pay these terrorists even if your son dies a terrible death. but you would say that the president did the right thing based on what is best for this country and what is best for other journalists in the long run? >> yes. it's a painful situation but the problem is the kidnappers. they create these situations. what they did to jim was absolutely despicable and cowardly. we are helping them by not talking about it, by having no agreement on how do we, you know, reduce kidnappings. >> so are the french -- i opened this up. gideon, i don't know if you know. do we know? is the french government moving our way after paying 40 million last year or other governments moving our way or are the europeans paying the ransoms? >> the tendency is to increase ram coneso manies. i think david is right there needs to be a discussion in this strategy. it's very, very difficult to change that dynamic because it involves at least for a short term the likelihood people will be kidnapped and killed in horrendous ways and until the kidnappers understand that they are not going to get any more money this way, they will keep on doing it. >> wes, i wasn't really saying it sotongue in cheek. a lot of americans were horrified. where is "the daily news" here? give it to me really quickly. the optics of this is horrible domestically and i wasn't even saying it tongue in cheek. i think there is probably an isis commander or two that sees this and goes, wow, he is a cold son of a bitch but, you know, the president has made it very clear, this president has made it very clear he's not going to play by their rules. >> i think even before that, i think isis has known, you know, the execution, the usage of drone strikes they have increased dramatically under president obama. >> can i ask you this? you fought over there. there is no way to attach logic to these actions. but why the hell would they do that? they have to know they are putting a target on their back. they have to know how it ended for osama bin laden, for saddam hussein. we are a war weary nangs they have just forced to confront us and have the president call them a cancer. >> looking at the escalation happening rights now is the situation we are facing. the issue with targeted air strikes and targeted military strikes, period, is that there norm come two things along with those. one, you're dealing with a rational partner a back door and second you only have a force that can then go and fill in where the vacuum is created you will help to create. >> we don't have that in syria or iraq. >> you don't have that in either place. it's interesting how this relates back then to the idea of negotiations. these negotiations and ideas for prisoner swaps have been things that have been long debated within the united states. we recently just had issues where you have u.s. prisoners that were being returned back to the u.s. for prisoner swaps. we are now venturing into new territory is on the monetary piece and this is something i agree. >> international conversation. >> international coordination about the monetary piece because the other piece has been there. >> let's go to iraq and we are talking to nbc news chief global correspondent bill neely. he were talking about this last hour. things seemed a little more simple in 2003. bad guy running irks, gee take him out of power and set up a stable government. now here in 2014, obviously, everything is shattered. the nation states of syria and iraq have been shattered and find ourselves in a bizarre position of the same thing in assad and iran. where do we go from here? >> reporter: well, i think that is absolutely the big question for the u.s. administration. it said at the beginning that it was launching these air strikes to help to avoid a genocide of their people at the hands of isis. isis has been driven away from erbil but we are continuing the air strikes. there were another 14 yesterday. they are almost certainly continuing today. there is a sense perhaps of division, even of muddle in the strategy of the united states. for example, it was almost exactly this time last year that hundreds of syrian civilians damascus were almost gassed by the assad regime. president obama promised air strikes if something like that happened. no air strikes happened and he did a deal with assad's main ally. if that was okay why was it not okay on syrian civilians who were gassed in damascus? if president obama bombs isis in iraq, why does he not bomb isis in syria and that would put him in an incredibly uncomfortable alliance with president assad and that is probably policy wise what is stopping any u.s. air strikes on the syrian side of the border. so this whole thing, as you say, going back to 2003, it's incredibly complex but the u.s. is dipping its toe in the water of the air strikes. the question is strategically it's easy to get involved and it's easy to start this. where do you stop? >> british prime minister david cameron cut his vacation short and has put out a statement about the murder of foley. investigators believe foley's murder was british, which bill, again, raises concerns about terrorists with western passports. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: yeah. just going back to your previous conversation before i answer that, when you say europeans have paid money, the british government, for example, has a long record of never paying ransom money for hostages just like the u.s. government. on your point about western involvement in this, it is reckoned by british intelligence that there may be up to 500 britons who have gone to syria and iraq to fight on behalf of isis. by the way, u.s. intelligence reckons there may be up to a hundred americans. british intelligence, at the moment, are examining that video of the killing of james foley for any clues as to who his killer might be. from his action, he is quite clearly -- >> we lost our connection with bill. is he there? all right. we lost the satellite with bill. >> get him back. >> david, we do need to clarify, using donald rumsfeld terms from three. it's chocolate. great britain has not engaged in those negotiations and taken a very tough stand. >> there was a british hostage decapitated in 2009. german and swiss captors held with him were ransomed and freed. also israeli does prisoner exchanges. they exchanged a thousand prisoners for one israeli soldier. >> which i always found shocking, gideon, that the israelis would trade one soldier for a thousand palestinian prisoners, some of whom committed the most horrific of acts. >> of course, in israeli, this is every time this happens, it's a huge national debate should they do this or should they not do this. >> right. >> right. >> but, again, it's one of the dynamics once the thing starts the expectation is generated and a culture in israeli you don't leave a soldier in the field. so part of the soldier knowing that being willing to go out and fight is the knowledge they are -- >> is that the argument? >> all politics is local so in all of these countries, the french public expects the government to act and the israeli public says don't leave anyone behind. when barack obama doesn't leave beau bergdahl dined it's a furor here. that's is so hard getting an agreement because french politicians and german politicians have a different dynamic. they have to act in these cases. >> but i don't understand why. i'm sorry. if it's a stupid question, but what would be the reason to pay large sums of money to a terrorist organization to help further feed -- >> i think a distinction between exchanging prisoners for a soldier and paying ransom money for people -- whether soldiers or civilians. i think there needs to be a separate debate about each of them. >> sure. >> the conditions and reasons for doing them is different. >> we would all agree when you pay money for a terrorist kidnapper and terrorist ransom all you're doing is strengthening the terror outfit and encouraging more. this is like what we were dealing with? sudan. a lot of evangelical groups would pay to get children out of slavery for 30 dollars and a year later they were paying $60 to get them out. then it was a hundred dollars to get them out of slavery. >> i think in the u.s. military there is an expression they say people first and then the military. we will take care of our people but never lose sight of the larger mission. if there comes a situation where any type of scenario will end up hurting the larger mission, we have to remember people first, mission always. >> that is what you go into battle, that is your mindset and if you're captured, you're not expecting the united states to sacrifice the mission for you. you know that when you put on the uniform, right? >> we understand that the united states is going to move heaven and earth to get us out as was indicated because we will not leave a soldier or sailor or airmen or marine behind but as always, it's mission always. >> and you know what you're signing up. >> david and gideon, thank you so much. it's really -- >> thank you for coming in. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. still ahead on "morning joe," are americans turning their children into narcissistic little monsters? >> yes. we don't have to do the next segment. >> have you been in a grocery store and seen kids yelling at their parents? i feel like going up, what are you doing? have you seen that? kids are screaming at parents. like -- i feel like going up to them, what are you doing? in charge. >> he is the wholefoods disciplinarian. >> no i am not. >> i will say your children are extremely polite. >> i can't even -- you know, knock on wood. >> i have teenagers. there's time. plus, overnight little league sensation and america's sweetheart. more on the great story of mo'ne davis. she is amazing! >> we have heard from his wife and his sister and the key witness jonny williams but now it's bob mcdonnell's turn. what the former governor of virginia had to say for himself. we go live to the courthouse in richard. >> speaking of our little monster. bill karins with the forecast. >> show the mirrors you have. >> mirrors or mirror? >> plural. we will do it later. what is the weather? one area of interest. florida or the southeast or the gulf you know the time of the year the storms can come at you. right now a tropical disturbance but could develop into a tropical storm or depression over the weekend so we need to pay attention to it and heading into the general vicinity of puerto rico and the dominican republic over the weekend. tuesday to wednesday, i circled this area where i believe the storm is located from near florida to off the coast safely. that is why this will be a close call. some of our computers developed it into a stronger storm and some barely have it a weak storm at all. a lot to watch there. the heat goes, extreme heat continues in the middle of the country. a lot of bad thunderstorms this morning. if you're traveling in and around minneapolis and minnesota especially south of minneapolis and driving between minneapolis all the way to chicago, we have a lot of heavy rain heading your way and the roads are going to be treacherous and the airports too are going to have problems. that's the travel trouble spot today. the extended forecast in st. louis. summer has been here two months and now it arrives. probably what everyone wants it to go away. it's nearly a hundred all weekend long into next week in st. louis. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. ♪ to be on your own with no direction home ♪ (son) oh no... can you fix it, dad? 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but that's how it would work anywhere. how could he be completely disconnected, mark halpern? >> he is going to be back on the stand today and talk more -- expectation he is going to talk more about the details of his marriage. the governor makes a good point in the sense that this was a businessman who was trying to create jobs so it helped virginia. so just because he was a contributor doesn't mean the guy can't get help. the question is the personal stuff that they got. there does seem to have been a certain amount of compartmentalization between the mcdonnells. there does. >> it's impossible. >> i'm not sure it's impossible because a lot of the testimony -- he is wearing a rolex and sitting in the ferrari. he can't blame that on her. >> he knew there was some interaction but i'm not sure he knew -- >> and the staff -- >> but it was complicated, thomas, because you have mrs. mcdonnell thinking she is getting involved in a romantic relationship with this vitamin guy, you know? so, obviously, it wasn't that open, you know? >> well, i mean, is the governor okay with that is he thinking let maureen get romantically involved because he will give me a check for my daughter's wedding? >> he is okay with jonnie williams getting involved personally. >> explain the laws of virginia. joe and i had this conversation today and this is the big point. the virginia laws allow a lot of wiggle room, that allow for these type of donations to come in that then make it acceptable for this type of behavior then to go off the rail. peter, explain why, from a legal standpoint, that is why this defense has been so purposely focused on the marital relationship of the mcdonnell's. >> somebody said in my ear. look at this picture. it was said in my ear by john tower, a lot of chiseled jaws on the screen right now. >> also this dispels the rumor we are not the same person. we get this a lot. so we are two separate people. >> two separate people. okay, that is good to know. brothers from a different mother. >> i'm skeptical here, though. peter alexander? >> so i'm clearly not a legal expert so i can't get into the nuance of this but the significance of the law in this state is exactly what goes at the base of governor mcdonnell's defense here which is what he insists is he did what he says any governor would do which is he was trying to help promote a virginia business. whether or not he was accepting gifts, he was doing what he says any government would do. that is the argument they are make pregnant. the biggest challenge that goes for the credibility of these two and governor mcdonnell who has won multiple elections out of the gates like a good boy scout spoke directly to the prosecutor and the jurors trying to convince them of his argument and he even had one of his best friends from college at notre dame talking about what a good sort of boy scout he is. but the challenge for them is that he and his wife only a matter of months ago were hand in hand and were all smiles and their public persona for so long the way this state knew them, the way the country knew them. remember, he was considered to be a potential running mate alongside mitt romney was this real team. the idea they weren't talking is something the jurors will be suspect of. >> absolutely. he was an incredible politician for sure and probably still it. joe, break it down. a staff with a situation like that would usually notify the governor, we have a problem with your wife. >> let's brake it down. everybody can speculate all they want. the bottom line is this. the prosecution has to prove, because as thomas said, it's not illegal getting the gifts. they have got to prove intent in his mind that he did something for jonnie williams based on a rolex watch. we can be offended by the rolex watch and the daughter's wedding and the ferferrari. it doesn't matter. fountain prosecution can connect any one of those gifts for him doing a favor for jonnie williams. maybe the prosecutor can do it. i can tell you as a lawyer, i would much rather have the defense attorney's be job than the prosecutor's job. that is a hell of a high bar to go over illegal. let's move on to arkansas and mark pryor. he is fighting for re-election in the red state of arkansas but not stopping him from touting a yea toyota. >> he did this for obamacare. he is featured with his father referring to the health care law without really mentioning it by name. >> when mark was diagnosed with cancer we thought we might lose him. >> my family and my faith helped me through the rough times. >> but you know what? mark's insurance companies didn't want to pay for the treatment that ultimately saved his life. >> no one should be fighting an insurance company while you're fighting for your law. that's why i passed a law for prevent insurance company from cancelling your policy if you get sick. >> what do you make of this, joe? >> we were all talking. we were still all talking about the virginia trial. and husbands and wives and how they treat each other in these situations. let's move on, though. >> yes! i think we should! >> senator pryor talking about obamacare. arkansas, louisiana, populace states like that might not be a bad idea. >> mark pryor talking about voting for obamacare. not saying obamacare the affordable care act but talking about popular parts of the law and using his father. his father is a smoother politician than he is which the ad shows. his father is beloved in the state and why it's significant is democrats are going on offense and if you go state-by-state, race-by-race, most of the democratic incumbents who are targeted are in much stronger position in august than republicans and we thought they would be. pryor is in this defense and going on offense saying thg a popular law in some ways. >> a lot of times things you just kind of get a gut feeling out there. talking to people, putting up anecdotal evidence. wes, i get a feeling as a guy who opposed obamacare, as a guy who would like to see obamacare replaced with something better, more market-driven, more sustainable, i still -- i get the sense the longer this law is in effect, the more acceptance it has with the american people. forget that. you ask americans do you support obamacare, no, i hate it but they like parts of obamacare. they don't really understand it, but they like parts of it. say, no, i oppose it, but as far as repeal goes, i just am kind of getting the gutted feeling and wonder if you guys are feeling the same way too. the longer this law is in effect the more it becomes part of our social fabric. >> yes. >> the harder it is to paint something with horns that supports it like pryor in arkansas. >> that's right. also i think you hit the nail on the head earlier as well when you said i would like to see it replaced with something better. the problem this election has not been about this is obamacare or the alternative. >> that is the problem. >> it's obamacare or something better and no one knows what it is yet and that is the challenge. >> that is a great point. if they actually had something to replace it with and i'll go back to '94. we could say, we're against the president's health care plan. here are three republican health care plans. i like this republican health care plan but if you like chafee's health care plan you can go that with and a moderate health care plan that maybe wouldn't be that bad. republicans have nothing. there is such a void out there. they can go, we can introduce it. no. the party hasn't come together. >> obamacare is mitt romney's plan from massachusetts. >> but mitt romney's plan from massachusetts is not -- but it's not -- that is not a traditionally mainstream republican plan. fine. congress doesn't like that. >> paul ryan has a plan but it involves making fundamental changes in medicare and medicaid for future beneficiaries and they don't want to talk about it. >> what i'm saying, though, if they don't like romney care or obamacare, what is your plan? house republicans, you control the purse strings. so what is your plan? this is a debate. they can't whine and complain. i've said this before after the 2012 election. bill kristol and a lot of other conservatives got together at "national review." they had a big talk and said, guys, next two years, we have to stand for something. we have got to come up with an alternative on the health care. we have got to come up with an alternative on immigration. we have got to -- the warning signs were there right after 2012. the house republicans have done nothing. the leadership has done nothing to break through and they can blame the media all they want. get all republicans together in front of a camera and say, we stand for this and we will fight for this and that will break through. they haven't done it. and that is why you're right. >> there have been a lot of reasons why they haven't. >> they are focused on improving relationships they have with hispanic voters and that take hand most of their time. >> there is that. it's a very difficult issue, obviously, or it would have been done a long time ago. >> it's not that difficult. coming up the tragedy of ferguson and finding a way forward. what the death of michael brown has revealed about the united states renowned writer david von draley joins us with new cover story for "time. also how to deal with your narcissistic baby. all that and more when "morning joe" returns. 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"the tragedy of ferguson." david, talk about the story. how did this happen in middle america? >> well, it happened, sadly, the same way it seems to have happened from time to time all across the country. with we discover too late that a community has completely lost the basic bonds of trust that hold a community together. the lines of communication that allow a police department or a mayor's office to talk to, you know, the people in the streets, and a trigger event happens, in this case, the tragic killing of michael brown. and people feel like they have no way of expressing themselves, their outrage. they take to the streets. and once that happens, you know, there's no telling what is going to come next. the time to prevent a riot, to stop a riot is before it happens. >> michael duffy here. you have people holding their hands up. we just got some film from tuesday night. >> in st. louis. >> and really disturbing and run this clip equally quickly of an officer threatening civilians, including journalists. >> my hands are up, bro. my hands are up. [ bleep ] >> hands up. hands up. >> raid [ bleep ] [ bleep ] hands up. >> get back. get back. >> you're going to kill him. >> he is threatening to kill him. >> get back. >> what is your name, sir? [ bleep ]. >> your name is [ bleep ] yourself go [ bleep ] yourself. hello, officer. >> officer, he is trying to kill me. >> what are you doing? >> i know you guys are watching. [ bleep ] he had to be told by another officer to -- >> pointing his gun at people right now for no reason. >> that cop was suspended indefinitely. >> was suspended indefinitely. "the washington post" has an interesting column where if you look at the polls, ferguson actually divides us a lot less than you think. most americans, white and black, horrified by what they are seeing on tv. >> you can't look at this story and not think it's an american tragedy that cuts across all lines. everyone loses in this tale. there are no winners for either the people in the community of ferguson, the family of michael brown, the cop, his life and career probably is, you know, coming to an end. the power structure of st. louis county. the governor. no one has come out of this looking better. and the country saw the issues of race and criminal justice ripped open and it can only think after so many incidents, after so many occurrences, why can't we get this right? >> i think also, this isn't just a situation of white/black. the person who was just taking that video was not african-american. if you look at the crowds of people that are marching, it's not -- it's not purely african-american audience marching throughout the ferguson. this is a much bigger and broader issue about levels of distrust with law enforcement and how exactly law enforcement is being implemented and it's really hard and it's difficult to watch because all of us know that the vast majority of law enforcement officers are there doing an unbelievably difficult job and doing it under unbelievably difficult circumstances. >> i don't usually bring private conversations in my living room into broader setting, but i was sitting this summer with two other guys who have been friends for 20 years. well to do. very white. never arrested. no scrapes with the law. and they had about a 20 or 30-minute discussion about police and how it seems like the quality of police officers nationwide is getting worse. they are too taken with their power. and they are like we are republican. we were having this before ferguson. like we were watching the bombing of gaza when we were having this discussion. there is a poll out talking about african-americans, but when rich white guys who have never had a scrape the with the law are talking about a problem with police being too taken with a little bit of power, there seems to be a tear in the social fabric here, michael. >> as david makes clear there are communities that know how to do this and integrate their police into the community day after day in real and one to one ways and communities that just don't do that. this is one of those. throw into that the question of race and how there is no question that if you're a black male, you are treated by police differently than if you were a white male whether you did anything or not and you have an explosive situation in which we are still dealing with now. some communities know how to do this and there are people who are helping them do it. but not everyone -- >> what about this story will little narcissist? >> it's a different story. >> what are little narcissists? >> a book is written about nauc narcissism and why it's a problem for awful us. we are born crazy. we will all borne crazy selfish little monsters and we we have to learn not to be crazy monsters and selfish. >> in the generation, it just feeds into that, doesn't it? >> i'm guessing it's going to be harder to make the break. you're supposed to do it in about kindergarten. you're supposed to learn empathy and what i learned in kindergarten really matters? look at me, i want to look at me. what the book says essentially is -- most of us make the break, there are reasons that we don't. >> right. >> and we don't have self-control. >> most of us make the break. >> most of us make it. >> most of us. mika, do you know any narcissists in your life? >> i don't. >> she handed me a book on narcissists and said do you know about this? >> i said no. >> we had a conversation. that was all. it was just me and you talking about the issue of narcissism. we will be looking for the new issue of "time". michael duffy and david von draley, thank you as well. she was the first little league player to make the cover of "sports illustrated" and she makes throwing like a girl a very good thing. the story of pitching ace mo'ne davis is next. she inspires you. no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. nobody ever stomped their foot and asked for less. there's a reason it's called an "all you can eat" buffet... and not a "have just a little" buffet. because what we all really want is more. that's why verizon is giving you even more. now, for a limited time, get more data! 1 gb of bonus data every month with every new smartphone or upgrade. our best ever pricing with the more everything plan and 50% off all new smartphones. like the htc one m8 for windows or android. built to inspire envy. come get your more with verizon. ♪ she is taking the sports world by storm. was she able to strike out the boys and help move her team along? joining us live is katy tur with that story. >> all of a sudden very rainy williamssport, pennsylvania. although the dragons did not win mo'ne pretty v valiantly especially considering she had the on her. last night all eyes were on a 13-year-old girl with a history-making fastball. from the cover of "sports illustrated" to round-the-clock media coverage, this year's tournament has been all about mo'ne. and if she was nervous before gametime, she didn't show it, warming up and signing autographs like a pro. >> go in calm and confident so that's how i'm going to go into the game. >> reporter: but right off the bat, a run for las vegas and mo'ne's confidence clearly shaken. >> take a breath. >> you can just feel the fight in mo'ne davis. >> reporter: still, she fought through it. she said she came out here to strike boys out, and 34,000 people, including these guys right here, came out here to see her do just that. in two and a half innings, she struck out six. mo'ne is just the 18th girl to play in the little league world series. back in 1989, nbc featured the first girl to get a hit on this hallowed field, 12-year-old victoria brucker. >> wait for my pitch to come and i just swing. >> reporter: 25 years later, and mo'ne is inspiring a whole new generation. >> girl power. >> reporter: and while the dragons may have lost, a lot of fans feel like they have already won. >> it doesn't matter that they lost, they still played as hard as they could. >> reporter: and not to worry, the dragons and mo'ne davis have another chance to play tonight. they'll face off chicago at 7:30. the winner of that game goes on to play saturday where they'll have to beat las vegas twice because it's a double elimination and that team will move on to the world series on sunday. it's going to be an exciting one. i know you guys will be watching. i'll be here. >> a great story. >> we will. >> katy tur, thank you so much. >> you know, kate is starting to play softball now. >> yes, she is. >> we were flipping around and they have -- they also have little league world series for softball. >> you can watch it. >> i didn't know that so we were watching it. a lot of fun. >> it's adorable to watch. still ahead, kid actors take on your favorite emmy-nominated tv roles. you're watching "morning joe." >> who's playing you? 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"the daily news" has this on the front page. that actually cuts both ways. but can you imagine -- i mean both of you, if you're president of the united states and like the europeans pay these hostage ransoms all the time. >> they do. >> but barack obama didn't. and america usually doesn't. but what a terrible choice to have to make. >> it is a terrible choice, and other countries do it. president obama is vowing not to let up the campaign against the terrorists responsible for the bloodshed. here he is yesterday. >> jim was taken from us in an act of violence that shocks the conscience of the entire world. no just god would stand for what they did yesterday and what they do every single day. isil has no ideology of any value to human beings. from governments and peoples across the middle east, there has to be a common effort to extract this cancer so that it does not spread. there has to be a clear rejection of these kind of anilistic ideologies. one thing we can all agree on is that a group like isil has no place in the 21st century. >> so this is the picture that president obama is facing criticism for. after his speech, this is what he did just a short time after his speech. he was seen smiling on the golf course in martha's vineyard, along with former nba star alonzo mourning. the other part of the day yesterday was just heart-wrenching. before this you heard from foley's parents as well in a news conference. so a lot of people are feeling that this picture really shows a president who is disengaged and a president who really doesn't sort of have a sense of tone in terms of the moment. >> there are actually two ways to look at this. you know, your first instinct is to look at this, right? and to say how horrifying. and it's the truth. there's another way to look at it too, which is i mean, you know, george w. bush told us to go shopping, to go to malls after 9/11. show those terrorists. here i think there are probably one or two terrorists in isis, because this is how they make their money, right? this is al qaeda funded their operations by kidnapping europeans and getting ransom money, right? and so they are negotiating with spock with a pitching wedge here. no, they really are. he is spock. maureen dowd calls him spock. he's spock. and i'm sure there may be one or two terrorists, willie, over in syria looking at him going, wow, that's one cold bastard. like he goes golfing on martha's vineyard. and by the way, people might be watching going are you criticizing the president or not. i don't know what i'm doing. i just know that this is how terrorists fund their organizations. and if the president were in the white house wringing his hands and weeping, no, he's out golfing. and it's horrible for the parents, but it does send a message to the terrorists. i'm sure barack obama would say, you know, if we can't go golfing at an exclusive golf course at martha's vineyard, then the terrorists have already won. >> all right, i don't think he'd say that. >> i'm not making light of any situation, i'm merely pointing out these are horrible, horrible optics domestically, but internationally, willie, for terrorists, it's basically like screw you. screw you. we're not going to live by your rules. >> yes. >> try to follow that. you know what i'm saying. >> yeah, no, i follow what you're saying. so we know that this president, this white house has no time or patience for what we call optics, theater. i'm doing the job. if i play golf once in a while, so be it. in this case, though, and i always hate the vacation and golf criticism that happens every summer with every president. we know the president can do his job wherever he is. >> by the way, let's just say right here, presidents are always working. >> right. >> even on a -- whether they're on the golf course or behind the desk, they're always working. >> yes. so that's the first part. and the second part is, but, in this case you had such a horrific act. people saw it and it was on the front page of newspapers and the family was crying. you'd think out of respect just for the family even, forget what the press thinks about it, for the family maybe just take a step back and quietly go about your job. now, he is attacking isis relentlessly. air strikes again yesterday. air strikes this entire month. it's not like he's sitting back and doing nothing. >> and i want to say, i don't want to confuse anybody here, mika, i couldn't have done it. >> right. >> i could not have gone out and played golf. i just couldn't have done it. that said, you know maureen dowd always calls him spock. he's kind of spock. and in this case, as maddening as that may seem, it may work. i do -- i do wonder, though, when you look at these terrorists, what are they thinking? like they just traded in a war-weary sleeping giant for a pissed-off country. the story always ends the same. wait, let's see. no, it didn't. osama bin laden -- no, wait a second, he got a bullet through his eye. oh, but saddam hussein got -- no. we actually ripped off his head from his body after he was hung. dresdan, hiroshima, nagasaki, i mean they have placed a huge target on their backs by doing this. and i'm serious, when are the bad guys going to understand that it's just better to walk on the other side of the street. go ahead, pick on europeans, they'll pay you ransom. they're on a vacation from history. and again, i'm not being facetious here. >> no, you're not. >> this is just stupid. >> nothing piques the conscious of war-weary americans than pictures like we saw yesterday all over the front panlz. >> it's horrifying. >> it's horrifying and you can't just sit and let this go by. your sons, your brother, your father, your uncle. >> and, willie, they have exposed themself as the cancer that they are. the president of the united states is now calling them a cancer that has to be cut out. >> and everyone will agree. >> and the attacks now will only accelerate from the united states and they already have as of yesterday. let's go to washington now. bbc state department correspondent is just back from lebanon. kim, thanks for being with us. >> great to be here. >> what more can you tell us about what happened, looking at the commando raid, the attempted anyway by special forces of the united states to go after and rescue jim foley, a failed attempt because he had been moved by the time the special forces got there? >> reporter: well, first of all, i'd like to point out that we are marking today the one-year anniversary of the chemical weapon attacks against syrians just outside damascus. that provoked a brief moment of international outrage at the time, which almost led to american and european military strikes against syria, which in the end did not happen. and syria one year on is in an even worse place. we heard from the french president yesterday saying that if the international community had shown a bit more resolve in pushing for a transition in syria, in other words, if the u.s. and its european allies had gone for strikes, perhaps isis would not be where it is today. >> so, kim, can i ask you about that because there's a debate obviously going on in the united states between two pretty powerful democrats, hillary clinton saying that she called for it earlier and barack obama saying that it's, quote, fantasy, her position and the president of france's position. what is the feeling throughout the international community, throughout the european community about what would have happened. are they on the other side of the president and intervening in syria before this madness took over the entire country? >> reporter: my reading from talking to european officials and from being in the arab world is that there is very much a sense that the u.s. left a vacuum in the region, which was filled by jihadis, by hezbollah, by iran, by russia. that's very much hillary clinton's view as well. it's debatable, of course. but looking at the situation on the ground at the moment, that is very much the feeling that europeans have. and i do believe that because of what's happening in iraq, because of what we saw happen to james foley and because of this attempt to rescue american hostages in syria, i do think it's only a matter of time before the president will have to consider the possibility of strikes against islamic militants in syria. the conundrum there is inadvertently he may shoire up president assad. let's go to iraq now. joining us from erbil, nbc chief global correspondent bill neely with the latest on the ground there. bill? >> reporter: yes. well, the u.s. air strikes have not stopped since the murder of jim foley. there were at least 14 yesterday, bringing to 84 the total number of air strikes in the mosul dam area in particular since this campaign started. as you've heard, the big question is where does this campaign end? what are its goals? initially it was to stop a genocide against the yazidis, the religious minority and also to protect u.s. facilities here in erbil. the isis advance on erbil appears to have been stopped so why is the u.s. continuing its campaign? president obama said yesterday that we will act, we will confront isis, but for how much longer and how deep is the involvement of the u.s. here in northern iraq going to be? it's easy to start a campaign, not so easy to end it. interestingly, this military operation, unlike so many others in the past, desert storm, desert fox, does not have a name. there is no brand on this operation and no end in sight. >> that is the question, what is the objective now. how far does the united states go. nbc's bill neely on the ground in iraq. bill, thanks for your reporting. we appreciate it. in other news, officials are hopeful the tide is turning in ferguson, missouri, following the second straight night of reduced demonstration. it follows a visit by attorney general eric holder who met with captain ron johnson, along with college students and community leaders. he said he understands why there's mistrust of police, recalling when he was stopped twice for speeding and had his car searched. attorney general holder rejected criticism of his trip to ferguson. >> i need to be here, you know. i'm a little disturbed to see people questioning why i was here. my answer to that would be why would i be any other place other than right here right now to talk to the people in this area who are deserving of our attention and we want to help as best we can. >> meanwhile, prosecutors began presenting evidence to a grand jury which will determine whether the officer that shot michael brown at least six times should be charged. joining us now from ferguson, nbc's craig melvin. craig, the reports from the ground last night, relative peace. is that what you saw? >> reporter: willie geist, for the second straight night, peaceful, it was calm. just to give you some perspective here, monday into tuesday, nearly 70 arrests. tuesday into wednesday, more than 50 arrests. last night here, as of 1:00 a.m. there were six arrests. by and large those half dozen folks were arrested for failure to disperse, disturbing the peace. captain johnson indicated that law enforcement felt like the tide might be beginning to turn here in ferguson. we should note that there were some pretty severe thunderstorms at one point last night, but even before that, we saw the smallest, quietest crowd of protesters that we've seen so far on the ground here. of course the highlight or the headline yesterday, i should say, attorney general eric holder on the ground for several hours meeting with community leaders, meeting with captain johnson as well. also spent some time with the congressional delegation, talked to missouri governor jay nixon as well. and in addition to speaking from the heart about his own experiences as a young black man in america, he also -- we should remember here this is the same attorney general who just last week was somewhat critical of the response here in ferguson. at one point saying they should get these damn tanks out of here. but again, based on what i saw yesterday, based on the folks i talked to last night, it appears, it appears that right now peace and order are about to be restored to ferguson. >> we can hope. craig, thank you very much. >> i love that line that eric holder gave, which is, you know, people are criticizing for being there. where else would i be? i don't always agree with this guy, but he's right. where else would he be, right? >> i want to show you a piece of video that came -- it's from tuesday night. local police officer threatening what appeared to be a peaceful protester on the streets. >> oh, my god. gun raised, gun raised, gun raised and pointed. >> my hands are up, bro. my hands are up. >> get back, get back. >> you're going to kill him? >> he's trying to kill me? >> what's your name, sir? go [ bleep ] yourself, all right? hello, officer, go [ bleep ] yourself. >> office, go [ bleep ] yourself, he's trying to kill me. >> i hope you guys are watching this. he had to be told by another officer not to point the gun. >> what in the hell -- >> the st. louis county police department says the officer has been relieved of duty. >> what in the hell? >> so i would say that there's been a lot of discussion about the imbalance along the police forces there. i think this was st. louis. also just how poorly trained these guys are and the situation they're in. it's a bad mix. i'm making no excuses for that guy. that was horrendous. but my god, it does show they are totally unmatched to today's times. >> totally, willie, unmatched. and it's not like -- >> there's cameras clearly there. >> it's not like this hasn't been going on and this guy is pointing a live weapon in the -- what's going on here? >> he's being goaded, yes. >> you'd think two weeks into this, the learning curve would be such that you're not waving a semiautomatic weapon at a crowd with media all around. you shouldn't do it anyway, but with cameras all over the place. >> there are just -- it is -- >> the media is there and this guy is in the middle of it pointing -- >> well, you know, i just saw -- i looked at the video earlier and obviously someone was raising camera video but then a television camera crossed and this guy was clearly knowledgeable that he was being videotaped, so at least you would think he would stop for fear of being seen doing that, that he shouldn't be doing that. >> he says he thought he saw somebody with a gun so he raised his weapon. he thought he was being confronted. turned out it was a bb gun. so he saw something he thought was a gun and the police say they relieved him because of the way he treated the crowd and the language he used, not in the approach that he used. >> i would agree with that. i mean if a crowd is dpogoading you, that's going to incite you even more. it's incredible. still ahead, a trip to hollyweird where will offerman lists his comments and shower thoughts. plus arming cops and mill tarrizing our cities. >> dude, super armor, dude. >> he doesn't want anybody to see him in there. >> dude, you can't even see him. >> unless you live in downtown kab kabul, there is no practical need for anything like that in your town. >> how one comedian was able to torpedo an armored tank in a michigan town. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill. >> my best effort to torpedo the show, you're supposed to say, mika. chicago o'hare airport one of the few with delays right now. thunderstorms widespread. you can almost draw a line from minneapolis all the way down to chicago. so right now we're holding at about 45-minute delays with thunderstorms in the area. i think those delays will build as we go. on the radar you can see why. here is the chicago area, all the little white flashes on there, those are lightning strikes. this is our live lightning tracker on top of the radar imagery. there's a batch of pretty strong thunderstorms between dekalb and chicago. that's going right over o'hare shortly. that's why we'll build those delays. we have thunderstorms to the north of the huge heat dome and the hot temperatures continue. yesterday was 100 degrees from texas, upper 90s all the way to florida. look at the forecast in memphis, tennessee. 97 to 98 five days in a row and it easily goes into next week and almost to labor day. so we're in a new weather pattern where it's hot in the southern half of the country in the southeast and cooler in the west. the one exception is the northeast. boston, new york city area, you're not going to get this intense heat like the rest of the southern half of the country is. you're watching "morning joe." washington, d.c., you're right in the middle. a little bit of heat, a little bit of humidity and a lot of thunderstorms the next few days. we'll be right back. what if there was a credit card where the reward was that new car smell and the freedom of the open road? 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"the atlanta journal constitution," nbc has learned a u.s. doctor who contracted the ebola virus in west africa will be released today. dr. kent brantly was part of a christian aid organization working with affected patients when he became sick. he was transferred to emory university hospital earlier this month. brantly is expected to make a statement at a news conference at 11:00 a.m. eastern time this morning. emory officials will also give an update on nancy writebol. >> boy, that's great news. we certainly are thankful for that. >> yep. and "usa today" videos captured an amazing moment when a huge fish actually turned the tables and ate a shark in florida. here in the clip. fisherman is reeling in a four-foot long shark. all of a sudden a giant grouper sneaks up. >> oh, my goodness. >> look at that! that's something you don't see often, and devours the shark. a grouper actually eating a shark. i -- okay. so does this mean that next year we're going to have grouper week on animal planet? >> i think, and groupnado. >> look at the size of that thing. "the houston chronicle," police uncovered more than a million dollars of weed after busting two illegal fields outside of houston, texas. >> you can almost smell it from here. >> the marijuana plants were cut down and removed from the area via a helicopter. officials say the fields covered about five acres behind a prison. the suspected growers ran off into the woods and remain at large. >> a lot of sad stoners watching that weed carried by helicopter out of there. >> come on, move on. >> they're going to move it somewhere. >> this is like cute news you can't use. >> so this from the "san diego union tribune." meet these two unlikely pals. a cheetah cub and a puppy named reyna. the cheetah was rejected by his mother, so when he was just a few weeks old, the san diego zoo safari park paired him up with a friend to help acclimate him to life at the park and then released this video showcasing play time. >> that's not going to last forever. >> i saw "born free." i know how it ends. first he was indicted, then he had his mug shot taken, then he had some ice cream and now he's delivering a major speech in washington. >> you go, rick perry. >> an exclusive first look at what governor rick perry will be saying today. plus, has target regained the trust of shoppers following last year's massive security breach? 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i cut it out and put it up in my office. do you remember ziggy? everybody remember him? you don't, you're too young. he's lying on the coach and the psychiatrist said, no, ziggy, the whole world is not against you, over 4 billion people don't even know that you exist. so in "time" magazine, meacham, there's a little poll you can take. >> a poll? >> test. >> a test, to see if you're a narcissist. >> mika had me take it and i passed. >> i had joe take it. >> how did i do? >> the top score -- or the average score, here we go. average score is a 4. >> now, okay, so the average score is a 4. what do you think i got on it, jon? >> 1.5. >> close. i got a 9. >> i was so close. >> which you know what that means, i'm twice as great as everybody else. >> i thought that's what it meant. i think it's important to tell yourself that. >> i'm kidding, i'm kidding. t.j., they know i'm kidding. >> the test is hysterical. i could have answered every question for you. >> i did get a 9, though. he is -- >> that's the first time i've ever been ahead of the curve on like any test. >> it's fantastic. >> i remember one time, speaking of ratings, i went to a town hall meeting and i got a 50% from some -- i think it was league of conservation voters, something like that. i got a 50%. and they were all there and gave me a standing ovation because for a republican i was seen as being very green. i stood after that and said thank you so much. this is the first time since eighth grade math that i actually was applauded for getting a 50. isn't that something? if the bar is set lower -- >> somehow there's a tie here. today governor rick perry is set to come out swinging in a speech, targeting president obama's policies. let's bring in chief white house correspondent for politico, mike allen. mike, you have an exclusive first look at his speech. what is he going to be saying? >> well, good morning, mika. i'm starting to wonder if some other candidates should get indicted ever since governor perry was indicted. he has a spring in his step, the sass is back, he's sounding more confident. we saw the ice cream stop yesterday. so today he's going to be in d.c. he's going to stop by the chinese ambassador, the japanese envoy ahead of his asia trip next week. and he's giving a speak at heritage where he's very tough on the president. and he basically predicts an attack on the u.s. by the islamic state. he says that president obama is going to be a victim of mission creep by isis. he says they're going to start to deliver on threats that they have made and maybe it's a hijacker with passports coming in, maybe it's someone who slips across the border. here's the money line, rick perry will say today what rational observer doubts that such an attack is part of the plan? he's also going to talk about borders and he's going to say that chaos is not a condition for fixing immigration. he said for someone who wants to talk about comprehensive immigration reform, i say to them, let's first talk about comprehensive immigration enforcement. >> mike allen, thank you. to his point, rick perry wears an indictment well, i guess. >> he really does. >> enjoying every moment. >> he looks good, right? i'm asking, a great-looking guy. you've got competition right there. >> obviously this is a gift from the democrats to a person that is potentially running for president. >> i actually think it is. >> because of the swagger that he has come out with and the people cheering him on and saying this is ridiculous. and certain people that have come out on the left saying that this smells. >> like sarah palin's complaints, but real. >> "the new york times" editorial page coming out in favor of rick perry. that doesn't happen often. let's go to "business before the bell." joining us now brian sullivan with the latest. brian, start with the fed. >> okay. so yesterday we had the fed minutes, that's basically their 20-page summation of the previous meeting. nobody cares except when they talk about raising interest rates. yesterday we got some clues that more members of the fed, there are ten voting members, want to raise interest rates sooner than expected. >> really, why is that? >> well, the economy has gotten better, joe. we've talked about this. i've been more bullish on the economy for a number of years but now we're starting to see the jobs numbers get better. that's key. the fed really has two mandates, one of which, probably the biggest of them, is to maximize employment. so that's a positive. janet yellen speaks tomorrow, kind of a super bowl for us in business news. if she gives hints that interest rates could go up -- >> let me just say to you in business news, i'm sorry. that's your super bowl, really? >> i think it's cool. >> thank you, mika. >> what's cool about it? janet yellen talking about what? >> she's awesome. >> i'm going to be on that couch with ziggy if this keeps up. that's the way it works. >> so the economy heats up a little bit, they raise interest rates. doesn't that slow down the economy and is the market going to go down today because of it? >> no. that's the thing. that's the good news. we're five points away from our all-time high on the s&p 500. i personally believe the economy can withstand some interest rate hikes. remember, we're still incredibly low. it's not like we're going back to the '80s where your parents probably paid 17% for a mortgage. mortgage rates are about 4% if you can get the credit. so the markets have done pretty well. even in the face of this, guys -- >> so mika has a question. i'm sorry to cut you off but we're going to talk about a french store and mika wants to have the conversation. mika, your favorite french store. >> target. >> some big problems. >> they had some big problems, but there's good news here. remember the huge data breach last year at target? guess what, most of the shoppers have come back. they lost a bunch of shoppers. the ceo out saying many of the shoppers, most of them have indeed come back. perhaps a restoration of -- not restoration hardware, a restoration of trust at target. so mika, next time we can do the interview in french. [ speaking french ] >> i'm getting really uncomfortable. is his french as bad as your father's? >> oh, no, my dad is the worst and he thinks it's really good. oh, my god. >> brian sullivan, thank you so much. appreciate it, brian. get back on that couch. still ahead, this is the mine restraint resistant ambush proof vehicle which michigan had in their arsenal. >> yes. >> for saginaw. the reason why they're getting rid of it now? well, "morning joe" will tell you and it has to do with a comedian. >> oh, good god. relish...the sweet pleasure of delivered straight to your face in accomodation paradise. ♪ booking.com booking.yeah! it's been that way since the day you met. but your erectile dysfunction - it could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than 4 hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or if you have any allergic reactions such as rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a 30-tablet free trial. if you're wondering what it feels like to have a mine-resistant vehicle on the streets of your town, i give you a youtube video of two dudes from saginaw, michigan. >> holy [ bleep ], dude. >> super armor, dude. >> he doesn't want anybody to see him in there. >> dude, you can't even see him. that's crazy! >> saginaw colony sheriff, dude. that looks cool, dude. look how big these tires are. it's taller than -- dude. >> it's awesome! >> now, to be fair, to be fair, that is exactly how they reacted when chipotle first opened there. >> that was john oliver on sunday, mocking america's heightened militarizatiomilitar. the next day -- >> the next day, mika. >> the next day, that it's decided to give back that mine-resistant vehicle. the sheriff claims the decision was in the works for a while saying it was expensive to maintain and they didn't use it, so why keep it around. that's a good question. >> there were people that fought in iraq in '03 that said the cops in ferguson had better gear than they had the first time. >> stop it. >> no, they did. the first time they went into iraq. >> that's exactly right. >> is it true? >> and people completely underestimate the costs that it takes to take these things on. when you have cities who are scrapping everything, you know, cutting, making every cut across the board. but we have mraps that are readily deployed in case something happens. >> hardware or pensions? one of the two. >> hardware that you don't use. >> okay. so joining us now from ferguson, missouri, "washington post" reporter radially balance could. he's the author of "rise of the warrior cop" now out in paperback. >> that seems timely. >> very timely. >> we've talked about this before. just how expansive has this become in middle america? >> well, it's been everywhere, not just middle america. this pentagon program that's been giving this stuff away since the early 1980s, it's been going to police departments all across the country. you've got the department of homeland security that's been giving out grants to buy new military-grade equipment and so you've got, you know, tiny towns across the country that are getting these mine-resistant ambush protected vehicles that were designed for use in war in iraq and afghanistan that are now being used on main street. so the question of the gear itself and whether that's appropriate for policing, but there's also the question of the mindset that you sort of instill in police officers when you dress them in camouflage and give them military-grade weapons and military-grade vehicles and whether that's appropriate in domestic policing. i argue that it isn't. >> and of course s.w.a.t. teams, he writes about s.w.a.t. teams. not for hostage raids, but for routine busts. >> well, it seems pretty intense. radley, i want to ask you, though, because we do live in a post-9/11 america and we can understand where homeland security is coming in trying to shore up where maybe some of our more vulnerable spots are around the country and having these types of equipment places already strategically mapped out around the country. so what would you say to people that in certain towns would say it's okay, i just don't want to know about it, i don't want to see it, but it's okay if we have access to it when we do? >> sure. a couple of responses to that. first, when they have it, they want to use it. when you have this kind of gear, it can be sort of expensive to maintain. and so they -- what they end up doing is end up using it for more routine policing like serving drug warrants. when you make a drug arrest, there are federal grants attached to that. there's also asset forfeiture policy. so this equipment is expensive to maintain. when you use it for drug policing, for example, you can actually start generating revenue for your police department. so these strong incentives to use it once you have it. the other thing is that this equipment is not going to necessarily sensitive targets, it's going to the police departments that are best at manipulating the system. so places like fargo, north dakota, and wisconsin, tuscaloosa, alabama, are getting this stuff. these aren't places that are likely to come to al qaeda or isis any time soon. >> wes. >> so what are the chances of actually have a much bigger, broader conversation about being able to properly identify where you have these resources and where you have a need? one thing we are going to see with this massive redeployment of soldiers overseas is that you will have a lot of machinery that something has to be done with it. is there a bigger, broader conversation about where that machinery can be placed most effectively? >> there is, and i think we need to have that conversation. but i don't think we should just assume that because it's bulletproof and because it shoots things that it's appropriate for domestic policing. you know, this stuff was designed for use on a battlefield. it was designed to annihilate a foreign enemy. a soldier's job is to kill people and break things. it's to defeat the enemy. that's not what police do. the job of police officers is to protect our rights, to keep the peace, to protect and serve, the famous motto. these are two very, very different missions. we shouldn't assume that the equipment that's appropriate for one of those jobs is necessarily appropriate for the other. >> all right, radially balan ra thank you very, very much. up next, sofia vergara finds love in the form of a distant celeb admirer. and a "game of thrones" star who takes method acting to the next level. >> he looks very happy. >> we're going back to hollyweird. what would happen... if energy could come from anything? 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"morning joe" starts right now. good morning. welcome to "morning joe." michael brown's funeral is held today and his father is praying for calm and it's important as we move forward today after a brutal months there is calm. here is what the father had to say. >> all i want is peace. i want my son to be laid to rest. will you please, please take a day of silence so i can -- so we can lay our son to rest? please! that's all i ask. and thank you. >> just let him be. i mean, this has been such a long hot tragic summer for this country. and for ferguson. and especially august. it's been a brutal hot august. you got the protests, you've had the riots, you've had the police overreacting? a lot of cases. and you've had race. you've also had police brutality. the wounds to those things ripped open on the world stage. you know what is so tragic, mika? it didn't have to be this way. >> i think it was a confluence of event and a lot of different things that led up to this moment that could symbolizes what we are seeing across the country. >> yeah. it could. obviously, the first thing, let's face it, you got to look at what happened in ferguson. and it stavertrted with the pol department. we hear about bill bratton coming on talking about community policing. that is when you let the community feel they are a part of policing. >> represented by it. >> represented by it. when you get a place where there are 50 white cops out of 53 and only three black cops in a community that is overwhelmingly black, that's not community policing. that sounds more like apartheid in south africa in this small town. you know what else? a lot of conservatives are talking about culture. you have to look at the culture in ferguson. this is a welfare culture. a lot of things have gone terribly wrong and all you have to do is look at these people that are on tv every night and aren't they horrible? it's a terrible culture! and this is what happens when you have the federal government throwing welfare to a community. okay. you want to have that debate, we can have that debate. paul ryan on the other day was talking about how welfare strips away the dignity of people. i've said it before. let's have that debate, but if we are going to debate about culture, then why do we debate about a police culture? why don't we debate about a police culture? this shot yesterday was in here. let's go over here, t.j. this shot yesterday was in "the new york times" and you know what you see here? you see a bunch of young scared kids pointing shotguns at americans who are actually exercising their first amendment rights. you can talk, not only to any sergeant, any cop in america that knows about training and about the right type of culture in america for police officers. you could talk deletors of troops overseas and they will tell you you never walk around with your weapons pointed like that in at other people in iraq or in afghanistan, let alone, god help us, in the middle of the united states of america. there's a culture problem and you know what? you know what it comes down? we read it all weekend. it comes down to the fact you got the federal government that is passing out a lot of equipment. we wrote some of this down. >> military style. >> military grade body armor. mind resistant trucks. silencers. automatic rifles. here is the thing. they are given with no strings attached, but, more importantly, they are giving them without training. these kids, these scared kids, they are scared for their life. they don't know what they are doing. does that fall on these scared kids? no. this falls on the leadership and they have got a culture that was broken. they got a culture that didn't work. they got a culture that led to this and this, this is not us even presupposing what happened that day. because you know what? we don't know what happened that day. we don't know whether force was justified. you got people on one side saying, hang the cop by -- from the highest rafter and people on the other side, saying letting the cop go. there are big tv personalities saying what the cops did was wonderful, was wonderful. it was great policing. we don't know that. if he shot at point blank range because he is charging the cop and he is trying to get the gun, it's justified. but if the forensic evidence comes back and the shots were from five, ten, 15 feet off, it's not so clear-cut. so people need to really shut their mouth until they know exactly what happened. but we do know what happened there, mika, and there is a total breakdown. did you see that article yesterday in "the new york times" about how long michael brown's dead body sat in the middle of the street with little kids and -- >> people taking cell phone video. >> -- looking at this guy shot in the head and bleeding out. you know what? every expert will tell you when you have a death like that, you go, you do the evidence as quickly as possible. the only thing you usually do to the body, one expert told "the new york times" yesterday, you take photos and then you get them out of there as quickly as possible. out of dignity, not only for the body, not only for the dead person, but for the dignity of the community. >> you close the block off if you have to. >> or you shut -- but what do they do? he gets shot at noon. you don't have the first detective there for an hour and a half! he is bled out in the street in a pool of blood. they don't cover him for a while. they finally cover him but don't cover him completely. you can see the pool of blood he is lying in. you don't do this! even -- even the st. louis police department said this was a terrible mistake. >> yeah. >> but it wasn't just 15 minutes or 30 minutes. the detective comes an hour and a half later. it takes another hour for the medical examiner to come. so we are two and a half hours in. this 18-year-old kid lying dead in the street with six shots in him. >> people crying, crowd building, anger rising. >> and it takes another two hours to get him checked in to the morgue. again, we don't know if he is guilty. we don't know if he is innocent. we don't know if the cop was just i have had, but we do know, if you want to ask why this happened, you've got to start with the ferguson police department. and you've got to start really with a crappy response, not only on the local level, but on the state level, all over. wi you know what the mayor is saying a week later? we don't have race problems in this country. >> it's impossible. >> it is impossible. but you read "the new york times" article yesterday. >> yeah. >> wasn't it jarring? >> look. i've seen the video of the body and the people and different cell phone videos with people's voices responding to it. it send three terrible messages. first of all, we don't care about this person, this human life, we can just do this, and most involved, you have all white police force and black man lying in the street dead for four hours, we don't care about african-americans. >> in the middle of the day. and, john, that's -- john heilemann is with us. whether they believe that or not, henry kissinger said in politics, as in life, perception is reality. that's the perception in ferguson and it was from the very beginning and it led to a lot of chaos over the next week. >> certainly the case that if you run the thought experiment that we like to run sometimes in this -- on this set, you think about a affluent white suburban community and try to imagine what -- the scenario -- with a white rich suburban kid shot and let laying dead in the street five hours it would not happen. >> in america. >> it would be -- >> impossible. >> you can't even conceive of such a thing happening on the north shore of chicago or in the suburbs of austin or up in connecticut near where you live, you can't imagine that happening. >> you're exactly right, where any of us live. not only in affluent predominantly white neighborhoods, in middle class neighborhoods. an 18-year-old boy gets shot in the white suburbs of st. louis? >> the police commissioners would -- if it happened, the entire police department would be under siege from community groups, you would have the police commissioner forced to resign within 24 hours. >> if race doesn't matter, you know, people say race doesn't matter. it does matter. in that affluent white st. louis suburb or we could say dallas suburb or new york suburb or l.a. suburb, if a black man shot a white 18-year-old, oh, my god. oh, my god. they would feel under siege. and then if a police department in this white st. louis suburb had 50 african-americans and only three white cops, holy cow! locust would descend from the heavens. it would be absolutely unbelievable. you know, i got to say -- i'm growing so tired of these excuses that right wing commentators are making for this. i really salute rand paul and eric erickson and i even salute ted cruz. i said it. i did. you can say that, because there are conservatives that are talking about this. they are talking about how there's unequal justice. rand paul says there are two different americas when it comes to criminal justice and there is. this is not an opinion. this is a matter of fact. >> relate. >> you can look all the of this stuff. but i want to talk really quickly. thirdly, the militarization of police. barack obama is talking about doing something about it. we need to review it. i'm not saying we go back the other way and do absolutely nothing after 9/11 but if you're going to give high-grade military equipment, some of it better than what our troops had when they first went into iraq, we have got to stop giving it without strings attached. most importantly, you've got to train the people -- you say you can get this, but you're going to have to do 200 hours of training so you don't have that shot that i was just showing you of those kids holding -- these kids holding up these guns. again, it's not about the kids that are holding up the guns. it's about the people running the police department. you see, we had a that horrible shot of a sniper holding a s.w.a.t. team like focused in on peaceful protesters. >> it's also the gear and where you keep it and when you bring it out. no rhyme or reason to it. these smaller police departments getting this incredible military-style weaponry with no guidance as to what to do with it. >> as we move forward, we can learn three quick lessons. you want to get this fixed? community policing. if you're in a community that is overwhelmingly black and you have a police force that is 95% white, problems are coming. all right? on the short side, you better fix it fast. you need to see what bill bratton has done as far as communitying policing goes. we got problems here. you go out to staten island, let's show that picture. we have got problems here. the choke-hold. it was ruled a homicide and it was ruled a homicide for a good reason. this is absolutely horrible what happened out here. there was a protest in new york but guess what happened in the protest for this terrible tragic unnecessary death. protesters went out there. there were a lot of people that had nasty signs but you know what? there were no arrests in the protests and al sharpton went out there and you heard what al said. he said we are not here to commit violence. we are here because violence was committed. al also said something, i'll quote it here. i kind of liked it. don't piss on our party. >> that is one way of putting it. >> this is here about a man who died. don't piss on our party. let us celebrate -- no, i'm just saying. i'm quoting what he said. >> you're quoting. that's fair. >> by the way, last point. you know what? anywhere al sharpton goes, suddenly, it's bad and republicans are criticizing al sharpton. it seems to be the argument. i've attacked al in the past. i even put a resolution on the house floor condemning him, all right? is al perfect? no. am i perfect? no. but you know what? everywhere i've seen al go, he's gone for two reasons. one, he has gone because the community has asked him to come. two, the families themselves have asked him to come. i think the family of the dead 18-year-old boy have a right to can who they want to ask to come in and if al sharpton is going down there and telling everybody it better be peaceful, then i think right wingers, your argument is about 12 years old. and i'm not saying that because i work here. because i say a lot of crappy things about people i work with, all right? that's number one. and i'll tell you the other thing is they say, well, what about black on black crime? what if they ever talk about black on black crime? blacks kill a lot of whites. cops do. guess what? they do. al does. he goes to chicago and barack obama goes to chicago and eric holder goes to chicago. the first lady went to chicago twice. all talking about black on black crime. s so let's strip away the excuse. let's get community policing as i've said before and review the militarization of local police departments and liberals can agree on here. finally, the third thing, meek, i said it last week. we got to put cameras on cops. >> yeah. >> because cameras on cops protects these people, whether they are black or white or hispanic, that feel like the police are brutalizing them. cameras on cameras protect good cops. the only people that cameras hurt on cops are bad cops and we need to get them the hell out of the police force. well done. in a few hours, the community of ferguson, missouri, will say good-bye to michael brown. a funeral will be held today for the unarmed black teenager who was shot and killed by a police officer more than two weeks ago. three white house official are expected to attend the service and there will be two overflow rooms where the funeral will be streamed to the mourners in attendance. craig melvin is joining us live from st. louis. >> friendship, temple missionary baptist church is where we are right now, a church in north st. louis and seats 4,000, we are told. they expect their church to be filled when the funeral starts at 10:00 a.m. this morning and they are expecting a number of celebrities and dignitaries. i spent some time yesterday with the brown -- with michael brown's parents and the parents of trayvon martin as well. one of the things that michael brown's father said, one of the things that got him most worked up, so to speak, during that interview, was the idea the thought you guys talked about his son's dead body lying in that street for hours on end. that was one of the things that he wanted to talk about a great deal yesterday. no doubt that the funeral today will be emotional. it's expected to last several hours here. michael brown will be laid to rest at a cemetery nearby. >> nbc's craig melvin, thank you very much. >> craig, craig, i mean -- craig reporting on what the father said. >> that's it, right there. >> can you imagine to lose a son. >> and then insult. >> then the absolute disrespect shown to him. early on, you see cops walking around the dead body, just walking around. no! go get something and put it over him! >> they did, but -- >> no. but it took a while. show dignity! by the way, regardless, regardless of who it is, you got an 18-year-old young man dead in the street, it's not that hard to do. >> it's unspeakable. other news to cover. the biggest earthquake to shake the bay area in 25 years has sent more than 200 people to the hospital and left thousands without power this morning. the 6.0 magnitude struck in the dead of night near napa around 3:21 sunday morning. when the sun finally came up it revealed homes split and shaken from their foundation and the blacktop badly broken up. joining us live from napa, california, richard lui. >> as you described, almost to the minute, 24 hours ago, is when that quake hit about six miles outside of napa. the center of the wine country we know so well, this is what happened. 10 to 20 seconds of shaking and buildings like this reinforced and unreinforced masonry coming down and 16 remain uninhabitable. when you think about the wine country, this important space, it's valid as some estimate, according to stone bridge research, $50 billion for our economy. the locals here they understand that. this is the way they reacted to what happened yesterday. >> it was like a roller coaster ride from hell. considered. i was in bed and it just tossed the whole place around. and it lasted for maybe 15, 18 seconds maybe. it felt like forever. >> i mean, you know, you see it in a horror movie but you think, this isn't going to bother me but, boy i tell you we grabbed each other and just held on. >> it started shaking and stuff fell on us and we took off out of the aisle. the earthquake was shaking the whole store. ceiling coming down. >> reporter: those are the layers of history you see there. insulation 2x4s and stone. 1875 is when this building was built and oldest of its type in this town. when they look at this, locals, as well as those in san francisco here, they are keeping one eye open because unlike tornadoes and hurricanes, the sleepless nights are not before, they are after. we have already had some aftershocks and expect many more. >> richard, thank you very much. an american writer is free this morning after being kidnapped nearly two years ago in syria. qatar helped negotiate the release of peter theo curtis and still uncleared what triggered the release but curtis's family said money did not change hands. the 35-year-old was held captive by a group affiliated with al qaeda that is fighting syria's government. british officials, meanwhile, say they have identified the islamic state militant they believe beheaded american journalist james foley. the suspect's name has not yet been released. >> they found out his name, he is going to be dead sooner, rather than later. didn't you get a sense on this when it broke yesterday afternoon? it's like, al qaeda, listen, here. it's those dudes. we kicked them out of our club. >> yes, fascinating to see the way that al qaeda has publicly declared isis too radical to them so there -- thought ran through my head. the same thing. you know? it's those guys. >> it's those guys, not us. we are going to release him. it did send what we did in that tragedy, that absolute tragedy is the president did send a message. we are just not negotiating. and if you kill an american, you get a target on your back that british thug. he's dead. we are going to find him. i mean, look at history. he is going to be tracked down and he is going to die. in this case, al qaeda is like, wait, let's get this straight. we kill another american, we got more of a target on our back. we awaken a sleeping giant again and not get a dime for it. the calculation is pretty basic. >> the other thing here, it seems that qatar decided to in the wake of foley execution decided to reengage and i think qatar running a public relations campaign saying we are on the good side and tried to get as many hostages as we can free. they are playing a guy owe political game. >> qatar has a long way to go after supporting hamas. much more on the hunt for james foley's killer. general mike hayden joins us in our 7:00 hour on the new intel leads. up next, more security concerns at the brooklyn bridge. if you can believe this, a man is arrested for trying to scale the new york land mark and took pictures along the way. yes, he did. >> my lord. plus, hollyweird goes to the 2014 vmas. all of the highlights and low lights from last night's big award ceremony. you're watching "morning joe." ♪ did you know, your eyes can lose vital nutrients as you age? 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"usa today" not only did hackers knock the playstation off line but forced a passenger plane to make unforced landing after tweeting a bomb scare. an american airlines was diverted following a threat of explosives from the twitter use lizard squad. the flight was met by authorities and landed without any incident. now, the same user is also claiming responsibility for an outage on the playstation system. the telegraph. the soccer player from cammeroo has been struck by a rock and thrown after a loss in algeria on saturday. fans hurled objects at the player as they headed toward the locker room. the interior ministry says the incident is under investigation. that is horrible. the "los angeles times." knight shot during a preparty for a party cohosted by chris brown. he is the founder of -- >> i was reading this and i said is this an old headline? >> yeah. >> is this from ten years ago? >> no this is brand-new from over the weekend and happened early in the morning on sunday. he was there along with another man and woman who were also wounded. rushed to the hospital from this packed club. this is the melee outside. hours before the annual show for mtvs vma. no suspects have been named. again, knight has been shot before nearly a decade ago a party hosted by kanye west also before the vmas in miami. >> he is the teddy roosevelt of the rap community. gives a shot and gives a speech. unbelievable. middle and high school start delay times -- delay their start times so students are able to get more sleep. this is very interesting. ever try to wake up a teenager for school? >> i like this. >> research says kids should not start school earlier than 8:30 in the morning so they get the proper rest needed to excel. studies show students aren't getting enough sleep and in a permanent state of jet lag. those who get between 8 1/2 and 9 1/2 hours have a reduced risk of obesity, depression, and have better grades and s.a.t. scores. >> that explains an awful lot. we get half of that. >> you're not up until midnight. should not kids be in bed well before 11:00 p.m.? >> the problem they are online until way past midnight. >> who lets them be online? >> exactly. >> wait until you have teenag s teenagers. >> my dogs are both teenagers right now and they do not -- they have to check their devices in when they go to bed. >> exactly! >> and it works well in our house. it's a system that we initiated very early on when we allowed them to have their social media accounts. from "usa today" what do we have today? >> the american heart association is calling for the fda to regulate electronic cigarettes to prevent young people from becoming addicted to nicotine. the heart association says strong intervention is needed to the countless flavor options from e-cigarettes to attract young kids to smoke. they last e-cigarettes as a last hope to help smokers quit. >> the controversy is they can help but they bring in brand-new customers. >> if you're moving away to committing permanently. >> they should be subscribed. from the daily news. they show more pictures of this thug and here is the front page just for people who want to see it. the front page of "the boston globe," how it's looking. they are talking, obviously, about james foley also. the top of "the washington post" talks about cell phones that are being used. your cell phones really are, they are just being used as secret trackers and, most importantly, you all felt yesterday, you knew yesterday was a special day and the "new york post" tells us it was go topless day in new york city. >> stop. coming up -- >> did you not go topless? >> no. only in the shower. >> very good. >> i guess you did, joe. coming up, the president's vacation may be over, but the criticism of his handling of several crises during that time is just beginning. we will be reading maureen dowd's epic take-down of the president's vacation plans next in the must reads. ♪ monday morning considering couldn't guarantee ♪ (car starting) great. this is the last thing i need. seriously? let's take this puppy over to midas and get you some of the good 'ol midas touch. hey you know what? i'll drive! i really didn't think this through. brakes, tires, oil, everything. 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>> i think the answer is that people are appropriately worried about isis, thinking about sustainable long-term strategy to degrade and then destroy them. i don't think there's clarity yet about how to achieve that. i think what your viewers should be watching for over the next week or two is a movement of the u.s. initial campaign in northern iraq against isis. >> syria. i'm getting all kinds of signals that that is coming and target selection is under way, there are a range of different strategies that have been discussed. i think on this question that maureen was writing about in her funny column, you know, taking off from the gettysburg address under golf one nation under par, she said, i think the thing to realize is that president obama really has almost stopped caring what other people think about what he does as he makes decisions. i think he got so fed up this spring and early summer with criticism that he is just begun to ignore it as one of his associates told me, stop shadow boxing with critics so with we will see if he settles into a different governing rhythm now that school starts again and he is back in washington. >> iraq, as a whole, joe biden has a piece in your paper, david. this will be a long-term challenge and one that our patterns around the world have no choice but to take on and win starting in iraq. david, stay with us. still ahead on "morning joe," rand paul versus hillary clinton. the kentucky senator explains why democrats may want to vote for him over the former secretary of state. we will be right back with much more "morning joe." ♪ when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. 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>> they pay taxes here in america. >> burger king? her a u.s.-based company but tim horton's did this for wendy's but they had to separate that. they have sought mergers before that would take their headquarters offshore and this is in large part because other countries have a lower corporate tax rate. >> we just need to stop this. >> congress could stop it. the white house could stop it and consumers could stop it. i tell you what, it has to happen. i mean, so i guess when they come back, is there any chance, john, that congress can stop these big corporations from setting up shops overseas and making us pay their tax bill. everyone agrees if burger king does this and make billions and billions of taxes and pay no taxes in america but we have to pick up the tax bill and pay higher taxes because of burger king. >> you think there would be an issue because of bipartisan consensus and given the product to congress and its ability to get anything done, i would not have high hopes of anything getting done. the use of force coming up at the top of the hour. how police across the country are crossing a line and how that impacts all of us. then the latest from the bay area where northern californians are still recovering from yesterday's 6.0 earthquake. first, katy perry resurrects a fashion trend we would all prefer she didn't. hollyweird is next. >> what does she do? 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(whistling) i'm going to say this with a straight face. the vmas were last night and when there is potential twirking we have bill karins. >> the best nominees for best pop video is. >> reporter: no show is hollyweird like the vma music awards. it's the hollyweird super bowl! nicki minaj helped open the show with her son but when it came time for a wardrobe change and her other hit "bang bang" she was holding her dress together. taylor swift hit the stage before her latest single shake it off, shake off and should accordingly. miley cyrus was, well, i'm not sure. you okay there, miley? >> the vma goes to miley cyrus! >> reporter: this year she made her appearance without uttering out anything and that crazy tongue. she had a homeless man to accept her award on her behalf. >> i'm accepting this award for runways who are starving and lost and scared for their lives. i know this because i'm one of those people. >> reporter: in the end no one's surprise queen b who owned the night. included all 15 songs of off her new album. jay-z and their thoughts blooded on before they awarded her for the michael jackson award. >> beyonce! >> i love y'all so much. blue blue, i love you. my beloved, i love you. my fans, mtv, i love you. good night! >> that was a big night. did you and your dogs see it, thomas? >> we were asleep. the dogs may have snuck their devices out while i was fast asleep. they were tweeting azalea. >> did you see any of it? >> i did but no outrages this year. nothing provoking. i would say a little wardrobe malfunction but nothing that got anybody stirred up or angry. >> i think it was more planned. the other performers had microphones and nicki minaj had the hands free so she could keep it together. >> i'm sure you guys have noticed and maybe you haven't. i have an 11-year-old girl and i drive her around all day and we are listening to popular stations. guys have just disappeared. you basically have maroon 5 and a lot of women singing. as far as mainstream radio. >> what about 1d? >> they are so between. >> that was hollyweird. thank you, bill karins. >> they do play beyonce 24/7. the next hour of "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ if you want it come and get it ♪ >> you will i want is peace while my son is being laid to rest, will you please, please take a day of silence so i can -- so we can lay our son to rest. please. it's all i ask. and thank you. michael brown's father is going through much. not only did he lose his son but read reports this past weekend and hear what happened to his son. "the new york times" had this explosive piece yesterday, mika, i'm sure you saw it. >> incredible on the front page. >> the front page about how michael brown's body, his dead body stayed in the middle of the street for four and a half hours. now, you talk to most law enforcement officers, they will tell you that when someone is killed in an altercation by police, what happens? they come in very quickly and take pictures for forensic evidence. they immediately cover him up. and then they will take the person away. in this case, though, "the times" put this graphically. it was just horrible. he was shot at noon. the first detective doesn't come for an hour and a half, right? so michael brown is lying dead in the middle of the street for an hour and a half. bleeding out. six wounds. he's not covered up for the first 15 minutes or so. we have seen the videos of the police officers just walking around in circles. >> maybe they were shocked. >> maybe they were shocked and couldn't believe what happened and maybe they were panicking but whatever they were, they were undisciplined even after the shooting regardless of whether it was just i have had -- justified or not. i think both need to sit back and shut their mouths unless it was justified or not. there needs to be physical evidence and there needs to be an investigation and we need to find out as quickly as possible. regardless of how that story turns out, this has been an ugly august. it's been unnecessary and it's been unnecessary because there were so much mistakes by the law enforcement officers in ferguson, in st. louis county, and in the state of missouri. mika, it started out with an unrepresentative police. a lot of problems in l.a. before bill bratton went out to l.a. and he said, hey, wait a second. i've got a radical idea. let's make the community feel like they are a part of policing. sort of a community watch. that worked in l.a. you know, there is a shooting in l.a. recently and similar to what happened in ferguson. there were protests? not a lot of protests. were people going out on the streets saying they felt underrepresented? no, they weren't because community policing works there. same thing that happened in new york. we have shown the shock and it was ruled a homicide. the shocking death by choke-hold on staten island. there were protests and idiots comparing the police officers to kkk but people running the rallies like al sharpton saying we are not here against the police. we are here trying to figure out what went wrong so it won't happen again. but, unfortunately, "the huffington post" this weekend. >> it was incredible. >> i'm sure you saw it, mika. for black americans, "the huffington post" said this seems to be a way of life. is it? no, not in every community but we have seen through the summer and throughout the year, unfortunately, one incident after another caught on tape. on august 19th, two st. louis metro police officers caught and killed a 25-year-old man. he was suspected of shop-lift ing products from a convenience store. they say when the man approached the officers fired 12 shots. they fired 12 shots and they killed him. an absolutely horrible scene out of oakland. if you're an african-american, i know it's hard but i want you to do with that famous line from the end of "to kill a mocking bird." if you want to understand, you've got to try to walk a mile in their shoes. and if you're an african-american right now, you wonder if the police are on your side or not in a lot of communities across america. on new year's day 2009, police officers shot and killed an unarmed 22-year-old man oscar grant in a b.a.r.t. station in oakland. the officer claimed he intended to draw a taser stun gun. i'm not exactly sure how he drew his revolver and shot him but the cell phone video of the incident was circulated on the internet and he shot a man that he was on top of unarmed. he was acquitted of murder but he is serving time in jail. we see this time and time again. i show a picture i saw this weekend in "the new york times." this is about culture. here you've got a bunch of kids and look at them. they are kids. and they have got guns aimed directly at the crowd. no police officer that knows how to handle situations like this would tell you that this does anything other than stir up hatred and animosity in the community. it's undisciplined. we talked about culture before. some of these police departments, the culture is breaking down and you take a broken culture and you take an unrepresentative police force where you've had 53 police officers in an overwhelmingly black community and 50 of them are white. you're asking for trouble. that's not community policing. that is more like apartheid in south africa. it's ridiculous. so you take that and then you take the militarization of police. mika, you talked about this before. an article a lead in "the new york times" yesterday where barack obama is having to look back at what we tried to do after 9/11 where we tried to make local police officers the front line on our war against terror and so what do you have? you had all of these weapons. >> armored vehicles. >> armored vehicles. >> body armor. all sorts of very -- well, they are military style weaponry which is given to a local police force and perhaps very necessary at a time of a terror attack. but the question is when does this stuff get brought out when you have a civilian situation where there is unrest in the streets? where is it stored? how is it used? is it monitored? >> and of this weaponry is being given without any strings attached. >> yes. >> without, most importantly, john heilemann, without any training. so you're in kalamazoo and you get this huge armored vehicle and all of this body arm is more advanced than what a lot of our soldiers and marines had going into iraq in 2003 and they have got no splin. discipline. i keep talking about culture. it's about culture. it starts at the top and it doesn't start with these kids. it starts at the top. when you have mayor in this town saying a week into these riots that we don't have a race problem in ferguson, we don't have race division, the culture starts at the top. and it's just a recipe for disaster. >> the combination, it seems to me of the culture piece you're talking about and this weaponry and the lack of training leads to what we have seen in so many of these cases which is an instinct for escalation. a hair trigger ramping up the temperature rather than doing what we hope police officers do in every instance which is try to deescalate. how do we keep the peace and calm things down? in these cases, we have seen so many pictures in so many of these instances the first reaction of a lot of these cops that have the weaponry and are not that familiar with the people that they are policing is to draw their weapons and shoot before trying other tactics to try to get out of the situation without any loss of life. >> yes, there were riots. yes, there were terrible things going on during all of this. mainly from the outside. mainly from agitators. that's not saying there were bad people in ferguson that were taking advantage of this, there were. my point is very clear. we don't know what happened between michael brown and the police officer. there is an investigation. there is forensic evidence. they are going to figure that out, all right? so you can jump to your conclusions if you're stupid. you can jump to your conclusions if it helps you reinforce all of your preexisting prejudices, whether it's prejudice against white cops or prejudice against black people. if that helps you go to sleep better bathed in hatred you go to sleep bathed in hatred. it's your problem. it's none of our problems here. it's not going to change the facts on the ground. we don't know how that is going to turn out. but what we do know, mika, is we had a long hot summer with very bad things happening in middle america. scanned out across the globe ripping open problems with race and police brutality and it was all unnecessary. we got to strip it down. we got to re-examine what happened there. you got to have community policing, first of all. the second thing is we have got to demilitarize our police officers. people on the right and the left agree on that. the third thing is all cops have to wear cameras. all cops have to wear cameras. all cops have to wear cameras. the federal government wants to do something, instead of passing out more tanks to kalamazoo, michigan, fund every police officer to be able to have a camera on him. it protects the people, it protects the good cops, and it puts the bad cops basically on notice. >> to your point, the president has ordered a review of the weaponry being handed out and senator claire mccaskill is holding hearings in a few weeks. we should have her on to talk about that. as you mention, merge, missouri, will say good-bye to michael brown in a few hours. the community will come together for a funeral. it will be held today for the unarmed black teenager who was shot and killed by police more than two weeks ago. three white house officials are expected to attend the service and there will be two overflow rooms where the funeral will be streamed to mourners in attendance. more money also has been raised through online fund-raisers an exceptional amount for a short period of time for darren wilson, the officer who shot brown for the teenager's families. we will be following that. the money was raised on two websites i think in a matter of days. >> i think there are a lot of people out there saying, you know what? he is innocent in america until he is proven guilty. let's get the evidence in before we are convicting cops. we have politicians going out saying they need to indict him right now and need to arrest him and throw him in jails. >> that takes weeks. >> no. they need to look at the evidence and be guided by the evidence. >> things that you can look at how long the body was laying in a street. procedures like that are obvious, we can look at problems that surround the question and we can certainly talk about fixing the culture. >> that has absolutely nothing to do with this police officer. the body lays in the street for four naand a half hours and overreaction and snipers pointing their guns. >> we can look that. >> those are the sort of things that can't happen in america in 2014. other news. the biggest earthquake to shake the bay hear in nearly 25 years has sent 200 people to the hospital and thousands without power thunderstorm. the 6.0 magnitude quake struck in nap a around 3:20 on sunday. sparking fires and crippling water mains. you can see the houses and streets broken up. joining us is richard lui from napa, california. >> reporter: what is what we associate with napa when we see the buildings off their foundations. today is a day since the quake, 6.0 which is 30 times less in energy than the 6.9 that hit california back in 1989. they are trying to out is it a million, a hundred million dollars affected buildings like this or not? because you were describing they had foundations that moved off the side by as much as a foot. they had streets that were torn like sheets of paper. they had motor homes that were up in fire. now that is sort of the challenge. that is the lottery that you get if you live in california but the big brains of berkeley, they are trying to change that. they are putting together some ideas and they came up with a warning system they hope would give you days and maybe hours, but for now, it's only seconds. this is the warning that went out yesterday. >> earthquake, earthquake, lights shaking in three seconds. >> reporter: so the idea there if you get ten seconds you can avoid something like this, these tire sized pieces of stone falling down. of course, there is also another way. they have something in northern california called earthquake weather if it's overly hot more than normal you might get an earthquake. that is not true today. >> heilemann, you've been through an earthquake. i've never been through one. three seconds? i don't know if that gets me out of the the 54th floor of a towering inferno. what happens? is it scary? >> well, it's -- >> no, i'm just asking. these are fascinating! the weather is moving under your feet. >> it's a strange thing. kind of like your house is on a roller coaster. the '71 earthquake in san fernando is one of my earliest memories from childhood. in school you needed to duck and cover and get underneath your desk was the elementary school thing. if you're in your home was you're supposed to stand in a doorway because if the house collapsed around you, you would still have the door jamb. my father lived through the '94 earthquake which was a huge one and suffered some damage to our property there. it's so common. you know, it's not that common and doesn't happen every year but common enough people are remarkably calm about it when it happens and everyone and the rest of the country is so freaked out by earthquakes. in california, people are relatively calm. >> stone cold. >> i'm sitting in florida. they say a hurricane is coming in seven days. a hurricane is coming in six days. >> go to home depot. >> a hurricane is coming. here. >> he is first in line. >> here you're sitting around, boom, but the guys in berkeley give you three seconds. >> we lived through one in 2008 in california. my mom was in town visiting from baltimore and we were sitting around a pool we had. she is putting on suntan lotion and didn't feel it. i said, mom, did you you feel that? she said no. she was so mad she didn't feel the earthquake. she was so upset. she comes for a quick visit and never feel one again. >> good thing she had her sunscreen on. >> the ones in san francisco it shakes and you say, i guess there was just an earthquake. when you get over 5.0, 6.0, you feel them. one more news story to get to this morning. an american writer is freed after kidnapped nearly two years ago in syria. qatar helped the release of peter theo curtis. it's uncleared what triggered the release. the 45-year-old was being held captive by a group affiliated with al qaeda that is fighting syria's government. british officials meanwhile say they have identified the islamic state militant that they believe beheaded american journalist james foley. the suspect's name has not been released. they are looking at pictures and they are on it. >> they are on it and looking at pictures. obviously, al qaeda release had to be attached to what happened the tragedy of jim foley. they are saying, that is not us. those are the crazy guys. we kicked them out of our club. i think a lot of things will unfold because of the tragedy to james foley. >> on "meet the press," mike rogers saying isis is one airplane flight away. it's so serious. still ahead on "morning joe," a new season of the english premier league means the return of the football frenzy. >> roger, that is later this hour. the koch brothers. are they headed into the midterm elections? 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"the new york times" saying isis was the jv team but said they come out after the beheading of jim foley and inside that story questions remind quietly inside the white house how big of a threat they are. still trying to figure that answer out. what is your feeling? >> yeah. i think they are quite strong, joe, but you need to put it into some context. they are very powerful locally. they have the trappings of a state, not a jihadist movement now in parts of syria and iraq. they are quite strong regionally and i think they have global ambitions. they haven't quite shown that global capacity yet. joe, i'm with some of your commentators earlier today and on the shows yesterday. we have underestimated these guys in the past. a failure of imagination before 9/11, we knew al qaeda and the araban peninsula. i wouldn't underestimate these folks. >> it's hard to underestimate these folks when the jv team you turn around and they actually own -- they control a land mass the size of jordan. >> the trappings of a state, an army, a government and tax aigs and just raw terrorism. >> shadid, i'm concerned about the effort to contain and stop isis. where should that begin and should the president close in on syria? >> a big difference between containing isis and defeating them and where there has been a lack of clarity when it comes to the obama administration's policy. obama has, obviously, been focusing now on iraq but if we are not willing to address the origins, the root cause of isis rise which is syria, then there is no serious plan there. that is so troubling watching this from afar. we had a chance in 2008 to support the mainstream rebel forces and this was exactly the warning that if we don't act now, in a year, two years, extremists are going to come to prominence and then it's going to be too late. >> so you disagree with the president who said 8:00 fantasy for anybody that says if we got to syria earlier this could have been avoided? >> it's not as if isis wouldn't have existed, but if there were mainstream rebel forces that were actually being backed by the u.s. and our allies and they actually had arms ammunition and advanced weaponry then they would have been able to fight not just that regime but isis. over the last year, there have been many clashes between isis and the other rebel forces so there is a coalition there as recently as last month when is remarkable when you think about it. isis was moving into an area in eastern syria and begging for u.s. support and u.s. support didn't come, to isis was able to move into new territory. >> thomas, you had michael rogers on the intel chief saying it's frightening that these guys are only a plane ticket away from the united states. >> well, it sounds like an oxymoron who we say mainstream rebel forces could have combat isis back in the day. when we do the research to figure out the origins of isis with we know they were helped along by several members released from jail in syria in 2011. general, where do you think it stands with our relationship, the nonexistent relationship in public that we have with bashar al assad, but the public thing that we have in none with bashar al assad is that the joint effort to extinguish isis and the back channels for communication that might be open for that. >> this is a pivot off what shadi just said. our failure to build up a modern operation and center reinforced assad's efforts to reinforce the opposition is a terrorist organization. now we are in the position where isis is the enemy of both of us but i think richard haass said in the middle east the enemy of the middle east is still my enemy. i don't see cooperation between ourselves and the syrian government. we tried this once before during the war in iraq damascudamascus. we tried to cooperate with the syrian government to cut down that pipeline. it was a very unsatisfying relationship. >> general michael hayden, thank you very much. shadi, thank you as well. >> thank you. >> the book is "temptations of power." >> barack obama is off his vacation. he is back at the white house. any indication from what you've heard or your reporting about what is next? does this president, they are now talking about going into syria even cut off isis there and as one of our guests just said, if you don't go into syria, you don't get isis. do you think that is the next step? >> i think it's the next step. we saw overnight isis forces taking over a military base in syria as they gather more arms, more assets to carry out their agenda. i think the white house is headed there and maybe belatedly. i don't know. the thing this is moving towards is the president, if he is going to do that, he is going to have to get up on front of the country and make the argument not just on humanitarian grounds but on strategic grounds why we must reengage in a deeper way in this conflict. if he is going to do that he has to bring the american people along and explain why it's important. >> on foreign policy the president likes to lead from behind and doesn't like to get out in front of the american people to talk about it because he has no appetite for this but he has no choice. as richard haass was quoted there saying in the release enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. the fact is we have two enemies both syria and iran who have the same strategic interests as we do in stamping out this force. i think american leadership is badly needed here and if we do something other than leading from behind, which i think the president is moving towards doing, i think isis is not going to look like the threat that it is right now six months from now. coming up, many have said the indictment of texas governor rick perry is nothing to see here but is the dream team he has assembled signify differently? 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>> oiit's on a t-shirt that say "wanted." he literally took a disadvantage. >> wanted to kick the tail of the democrats. >> look that. >> that is unbelievable. who did this? that's what i need to know. >> then the guilty t-shirt of the woman that was picked up for dui on the left. >> i don't like that is age perry spent the weekend in new hampshire where he finished a dismal sixth place in the gop presidential primary. he attended six events in 24 hours. members of his group handed out t-shirts with his mug shot on it. with us now the chief white house correspondent for politico, mike and. tell us about this legal team. mike, why is it interesting? >> good morning, mika. this morning, politico has learned that governor perry is add ago prominent democrat to his legal team. he has five high-powered lawyers and adding mike fabiani from the clinton administration he was a special counsel to president clinton. deputy campaign manager to al gore. mark is joining this team telling us in a statement they are going to fight back on behalf of what he calls the rule of law calling the charges against governor perry meritless. he also has a very prominent republican attorney ben ginsburg you remember from the bush and romney campaigns. so governor romney, in addition to this public relations defensive we have seen is also taking this seriously illegal bringing in some of the legal guns in the country. also we want to talk about the koch brothers. republican senate candidates seek to tie their democratic opponents to president obama. a lot of democrats have sought a similar technique. here is a piece from politico that you guys put together. >> a special interest bracket brought to you by out of state billionaires the koch brothers. they pick tom tillis to play for them. the koch brothers out of state oil billionaires. the koch brothers are spending millions supporting joni ernest campaign. >> a win for the special interest. >> tom cotton the world's richest billionaires seek to make deals and spent millions to support cotton and cotton supports their attends and more tax breaks for the billionaires who host the secret conferences. >> oil billionaires like the koch brothers. >> out of state oil billionaires. trying to elect an out of state politician. >> so, mike, they are still at this! >> koch has life for the democrats. >> they are still at this. is this really all they got? >> even makes them look like mafia guys. to make this guilt by association. daniel lipman who helped put together this mondtage you see the same shots of them. democrats say in a time of economic uncertainty, the koch brothers are the perfect foil. republicans say this is just what you do when you don't have anything else, when you have an unpopular president in a country that is clearly worried. >> mike allen, thank you very much. it's going to be interesting to see. >> it is. >> just doesn't look like it's been gaining traction. >> i don't think so. i think it's a little too convoluted. still ahead, a historic season for little leaguers. a wrap of the championship game ahead on "morning joe." >> this is fun. did you see this? >> so fun. if energy could come from anything?. or if power could go anywhere? or if light could seek out the dark? what would happen if that happens? anything. everybody's excited about the back at staples.avings from the customers, to the staples associates. with guaranteed low prices on comp books. you'll flip out! now go tell your friends. staples, make more happen for less. i think she tried to kill us. no, it's only 15 calories. with reddi wip, fruit never sounded more delicious, with 15 calories per serving and real cream, the sound of reddi wip is the sound of joy. thank ythank you for defendiyour sacrifice. and thank you for your bravery. thank you colonel. thank you daddy. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance can be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. ♪ like the kids say in liverpool, if it's a sex pistol that is playing it must be roger bennett. he is man of mystery and never around. what a weekend, roger bennett. you have yto start with the stoy of one of the most powerful franchise in the sports across the planet. i actually -- >> they are the yankees. >> i hate manu but i believe this guy is going to turn the team around. but, boy, a rough first two weeks. this happens. it happens with all great coaches. it's all about culture. i've been talking about culture this morning. it's going to take him a while but a rough start for manchester united. >> and it continues as the queen would say. >> that's what they would say. >> a legendary manager like an iconic kind of american coach style era defining gentleman, sir alex. >> one of the greatest coaches of all time anywhere. >> very hard to be the man who they replace. who they bring in is hard to be the man he replaces. he replaces a man who they start off okay. >> a nice start. >> a fine goal here. a tiny little hobbit of a man. >> hobbit? >> they come back. jack is thumping one home. no one is afraid of manchts united any more. these are like in your terms the yankees. these are microsoft from game of thrones and they are absolutely flattened. they lack a coherent idea and lack a coherent philosophy. >> the last 20 minutes of this mat match, manchester's worst starts to the season since '92. the end of the road! >> you have to go all the way back. let's hope this horrible, horrible season continues for manu. >> two games in, it's too early to make hyperbolick statements. >> i refer to hem as cipis. >> for a man who doesn't want to listen. >> who doesn't want to make sweeping statements. >> clear out of the way. i want to break roger's heart right now. roger, you showed me absolutely no mercy when stevie g. fell last season in liverpool and we lost. >> yes. >> i'm going to show you no morsi. >> go on. >> they go up 2-0. you own arsenal. it would be a massive win and a harbinger of wonderful things to come. dandelions sprouting all across mercy side. they blow it! >> thank god we didn't have any game action. >> you guys as we say in stateside pooped the bed. >> that is horrible! >> like jordan in wolf of wall street which is uncharacter of them. they took advantage and 2-0 lead. we are watching these gentlemen walk out. >> it is unbelievable. this is some of the worst editing jobs and tell you why later. roger, this tape last night. a first header. what happened is in there. >> when everton went ahead. naismith is translucent. what you cannot see and cannot guard. probably offside. everton went 2-0. you don't have the game tape. a little bit like portugal. like a character in a crazy song. heart breaking. >> it is. >> is it really the case that the video that we had from that match was of the part that didn't matter and the part that was really the dramatic exciting part? >> thank you, t.j. let's go to bigger news! other side of mercy side. you're going to have my liverpool playing man city. but there is really only one story line coming out of mercy side this week. >> go ahead. >> mario belatelli has come. perhaps a human being that rifles luis suarez and being absolutely horrible. the question is can liverpool tame his worse instinct? >> mario is like a dennis rodmanesque character. only 24. every team celebrates the day he arrives and a year later everybody celebrates the day he leaves them. he throws darts at youth players and sets a bathroom on fire by letting off fireworks there. >> his entire house burns down and the next day he wears a shirt, "why always me?" >> you luis suarez bite defenders during the world cup so they need a little mayhem and rolling the dice. he's a risk. >> is it worth the risk? >> it is probably not worth the risk easement they got a bargain? >> but they need to take a risk because they need to close the gap between the number one and number two team and they need to be in the top four again. >> bellatelli is like buying a boat. the best day about having a boat is the day you buy it. >> the second favorite? >> the day you sell it. >> the day you sell it. number one plays number two this afternoon. 3:00 on nbc sports. i think now america is a properly football nation. i believe you have the day off. is that true? if not, take a sick day, america. it's going to be a wonderful game. >> i think i have to go. roger bennett, thank you. >> it's going to be a draw. >> you can catch today's match between manchester city and liverpool on nbc sports at 8:00 eastern. roger, i never know what happens. >> 7-0? >> 7-0? you're a beast. >> you will be getting boat money. >> a strange man. still ahead, a live report from the scene of yesterday's 6.0 earthquake in northern california. the largest quake in the bay area in 25 years. plus -- >> and roger is laughing because he is an everton fan. a record breaking 2014 for little league baseball. we go live to katy tur next in williamsport, pennsylvania. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. so what we're looking for is a way to "plus" our accounting firm's mobile plan. and "minus" our expenses. perfect timing. we're offering our best-ever pricing on mobile plans for business. run the numbers on that. well, unlimited talk and text, and ten gigs of data for the five of you would be... one-seventy-five a month. good calculating kyle. good job kyle. you just made partner. our best-ever pricing on mobile share value plans for business. now with a $100 bill credit for every business line you add. that, my friends, is everything. and with the quicksilver card from capital one, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase. not just "everything at the hardware store." not "everything, until you hit your cash back limit." quicksilver can earn you unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you could possibly imagine. say it with me -- everything. one more time, everything! and with that in mind... what's in your wallet? 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>> not at all. >> the show of forces becoming a problem instead of a solution. >> you have to have community police. the second thing is we have to demilleitize our police officers. >> meanwhile president obama is returning to washington from vacation with a big decision to make. >> it's not weather to target air strikes to targets in syria. >> i don't want to hear how he is reacting. i want to hear he has a strategy to finish isis off. >> they are the most prominent terrorist organization in the world. when america has a lot of bad things happen. >> we have the capability to defeat it. we have to have the will and the policy to do it. we have the first and we don't have the second. >> we have a lot to talk about today. the reemergence of isis. an american hostage released and they said hey, we have nothing to do with that. isis are the real bad guys. the tragedy of jim foley's death seemed to shake al qaeda up and seem to get them to release this american journalist. he has been held captive for two years. the eyes of america and the eyes of the world are going to be fixed on ferguson, missouri today. michael brown is going to be buried. the question we need to ask is how do we stop this from happening again? it's basic. first of all, you look what happened in ferguson and new york city. two dramatically different places. we had protests about what happened in staten island, but a man was actually killed and ruled a homicide for selling loose cigarettes. terrible. what happened in ferguson did not happen during the protests. you had al sharpton going out and a lot of other people telling members of the crowd, the police are not the enemy. we want to make sure this never happens again. at the end of the day, it all goes down to respect. you had nonviolent protests and why? huh community policing. you had a more representative force. new york city cops didn't leave the body in a street for 4 1/2 hours and officials moved quickly so they didn't seem like adversaries. they talked about a few, i will say. love to talk about the culture in ferguson. the resulture of the residents in ferguson. i think if we want to make sure it never happens again and it's in all of our best interests, we have to do what we have been hammering about. the culture and the police department of not only ferguson, but st. louis county. ask what went wrong there. it's in plain view of young children and make sure that the militarization of the local police officers is reexamined. the president is talking about doing that. it can't happen again. it won't happen again. if officials actually treat the communities in the aftermath of these tragedies with more respect and dignity. that did not happen in ferguson. we have a contrast between what happened in ferguson and staten island. we still don't know what happened between the police officer and michael brown. there is an investigation going on. if it makes you feel better, talk about things you know nothing about. hatred and animosity. if that makes you feel good and if you want to say the cops did a great job without knowing whether they did, show how prejudice you are. or if you want to call the cop a murderer when you don't know what happened, show your ignorance. do that. in staten island, we know what happened. there was a homicide. a man died for no good reason at all. i read a "new york times" article where a cop said you know what, i think this is outrageous that they are protesting this death. you should always give police officers the benefit of the doubt. well, no action you should. you should look at the evidence and let the evidence go with the evidence takes us. there must be justice whether for a police officer that had every reason to believe that he or she was in danger or whether it's for the person who was injured or killed by police brutality. we don't give anybody the benefit of the doubt. the accused of course is presumed innocent, right? presumed innocent, but we have to wait until the information comes in. beyond all that, if we saw more dignity and a little more respect for the community involved here, we can avoid another long hot august. >> that's the issue of culture. how do you build that bank of trust with the community so things don't boil over. new york city has problems. the stop and frisk problem led to a conversation. they had officials come in and address them and there were meetings and everybody talkeded about it and the issue of race was right there. people were not afraid to figure out how to address it. you had ferguson and you had the mayor saying we don't have a race problem. >> we don't have a race problem. it's unbelievable. you have al sharpton if you talk to him, even in the middle of all these crisis, it's different than we had back in the 1980s and 1990s. you ask him what he thinks about bill brat on and he said he was an ally. we disagree, but we are trying to work together. that's community policing. it's not that hard. if you have a police force with 50 white people and three black people in a community that is overwhelmingly black, just go ahead and take out the match, light the fuse and wait for something to blow up. it's going to blow up. >> that's the point you made earlier. 4 1/2 hours for that 18-year-old boy bleeding out on the street in ferguson, unattended to. you imagine -- if anyone doesn't think race has going do with this, imagine this happening in a upper class white suburb. imagine the richest suburb, you can't imagine a white teen being left on the ground. >> if a republican president had done this, they would be killed by the new york times. let's reverse it around, an 18-year-old white boy. 18-year-old white boy in a rich suburban community is shot six times by a black cop and then a group of black cops stand around the body for 15 minutes and let this white boy bleed out and die in the burning sun and the pool of blood there. oh, my god. >> and the body uncollected for 4 1/2 hours. >> and they don't take the body off the street for 4 1/2 hours. a lot of officials would be fired the next day. >> that tells you a lot. you cannot run away. >> you can't do it. there were conservative politicians and talking about eric erickson. he said let's not wait for a white kid to get shot before we can start being outraged by what's going on. that's great. >> it is great. as we look at what you are talking about -- >> why weren't their more whites in the crowd protesting? >> it's important as you talk about a great deal of planting new seeds in police forces around the country to enhance police forces. police are very strong and the first people we call when the chips are down. they are the first responders. >> i believe this is the exception, not the rule. so many great cops. that's why when i showed the picture up, i'm not talking about police brutality, but a lack of culture in one police department there. we all paid for it because they lacked that culture and they can't train these kids you don't point guns at protesters. it's a lack of culture and a break down in culture. all the leaders in ferguson should be fired. >> you made a point about community culture and police culture and being invited into the communities. >> by the parents. this makes conservative commentators very angry. >> if we need to look at this, we need to lock at the associate contract together. this is a young boy who was an american and gets the adjective in front of him as a black american. if we have white americans and asian americans and gay americans. if we break down and show up as united minorities for each other and try to get this up, there not a lot of diverse faces in the crowd. some, but not enough. that will make the difference. when enough diverse faces show up, they will help raise the conversation it a different level. >> makes a big difference. not enough in st. louis. >> you have different facets of the story playing out. an investigation we should let it play out without making opinions on that and money being raised at the defense of the cop. $300,000 and more in a matter of days. they set up a different website and hearings about the weaponry being given. clair mccaskill showing some. >> we don't know if this cop is innocent or used excessive force. it may have been reasonable and this guy will have to hire lawyers because in america he has a right to a defense. >> another layer is the prosecutor. the question is whether or not his ties to law enforcement makes him biased. there so many layers to the story. >> what takes so long? the crowd is a basic crime scene. they have to carry out a proper investigation. we covered stories like this for years and years and can't be done in days. i think another layer is whether or not the police department in all the facets of what is available right now should be made available to everybody and the convenience store video was. >> why is that the only thing that the police have made available? >> that's a good question. >> we heard the police officer's face was pounded in and it looked very bad. release that picture if you want to. there basic things. you can tell from what range he shot from. if he shot from one foot -- >> they showed certain pieces of information, but the entire police report? why can't they just let everything they have. >> it clearly exacerbated the problems that the law enforcement released an unrelated video of michael brown in the alleged robbery without having put out the autopsy or police report and a lot of basic information. at this point if you want to put out information, put it all out, but you can't selectively put out the incriminating and withhold the other things you learned from the private autopsy and we haven't seen it. >> it's questionable. >> there is a lot of information. it would go a long way towards establishing faith in the investigation if you were more open about it. right now it's feeling like there is a cover uptaking place in the community. they feel that way. >> there is no trust. >> the facts are the facts are the facts. if they have the facts, release them and let people look at what's happened. with us now from st. louis, we have nbc news's craig melvin. we ask you whether we think we will get more information from the police about the shooting and the circumstances surrounding this shooting. how long that's going to take. of course today all eyes are on ferguson because of the funeral of this young 18-year-old man. >> quickly, the first point you raised, we talked to a spokesperson and there was an indication we will not get the answers to a lot of those questions until mid-october for a variety of reasons. the investigation and the grand jury here only meets once a week. early to mid-october at the earliest. meanwhile the church seats about 4,000. this is the missionary baptist church they expect to be filled to capacity. politicians and three representatives from the white house. bishop td and jakes and spike lee. not confirmed. i spent time talking to the parents of michael brown and the parents of trayvon martin. they were together for a joint peace rally here in ferguson. i asked them both what it's like to prepare to bury a child who has sparked a national conversation. this is their response. >> [inaudible]. >> when you find yourself in that dark room and no lights on, no cameras on, that's when you find out what you're made of. when you are all alone. that's when you find out what you're made of. it's only you and it's only god. you have to ask him to help you get through your tough time. >> reporter: we had a bit of an audio problem from michael brown sr., but he was saying there is nothing that prepares you to bury a son. also we should note he asked people not to protest today. peaceful or otherwise. he wants this to be a solemn, somber, quiet day to remember his son. >> craig melvin, thank you. other news, an american writer is free after being kidnapped nearly two years ago in syria. qatar helped release him and it's unclear what triggered the release. money did not change hands. the 45-year-old was being held captive from a group that was fighting syria's government. british officials have identified the islamic state militant who they believe beheaded american journalist james foley. his name has not been released, but they are closing in on him. a 24-year-old man was arrested after scaling the brooklyn bridge. >> this bothers you, doesn't it? >> it bothered me the first time when someone changed the flag out. this is a huge terrorist. >> this is terrible reporting. johna heilman. >> this kid goes up there and takes photos and it's caught on video. police noticed the man after he passed a security barrier and climbed a support beam on the brooklyn side and snapped pictures. look at him. he was taken into custody when he descended and faces possible charges of criminal trespassing and reckless endangerment. this comes after two german artists took credit for swapping out two american flags with white flags. that should be the sign that you have a security problem on a major american landmark. moving on, burger king is in talks to buy a canadian fast food chain and it could be the latest company to move headquarters off u.s. soil. they are thinking of acquiring tim horton's creating one of the biggest fast food empires in the world at $18 billion and they will keep a lot of money they make. >> they will keep the money and we will have to pay their taxes. you know what i'm going to do to afford to pay burger king's taxes? i'm not going to go to burger king. a lot of americans are going to go to burger king if they're going cheat on their taxes. i think we should make sure that all burger king officials have to move to canada if they want to. what's that about? it's wrong for them to do this. they are stealing money from us. they get the benefits of living here. their families get the benefits of living here and going to american schools and being educated here in american schools and they are working here, but they don't pay our taxes. >> they are not alone. you can and a lot of major companies are doing this. >> i'm a free market guy, but these people should be punished in the free market. >> how do you punish them? why don't you make's deal and lower the tax rate and help they repatriate. >> everything sucks now. >> it's unhealthy. >> it will be the first really test of the canadian health care system. >> we'll see. >> i have an idea about the brooklyn bridge thing. why not just charge people? >> i always wanted to go up there. i have secretly dreamed of climbing up there and it looks easy and i love heights and think i could do it. i want to go up there. >> why not make a money making venture. we are paying good police officers to chase after them. >> i want to go up. do you know how beautiful the view would be? 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>> as pointed out, this was the challenge for earthquakes. they keep on coming. we estimate there is about a 50-50 chance we could have a magnitude 5 event within the next week. we had a series of ones in the 2-3 range and smaller. we have an early warning system for california and japan has that already. that would provide several seconds of warning for the bay area. this is a test of that system. in anticipation of larger events in the future. >> i am wondering, if you get an a leader and people have experienced training as to what to do. are there a lot of options? >> great question. the first thing about 10 seconds, that's nothing. being able to raise the doors so they are not trapped in there. that's a key piece and getting people under a cover and before the strong shaking arises. along with the buildings that don't fall down. that's here with the older buildings and storefront. a lot of people live in wood frame buildings and they have good building codes in california. it happened in the middle of the night. earthquakes don't kill people. buildings kill people. >> i grew up in california and spend time in san francisco. especially given the spread of cell phones where the emergency warnings could come through, 8 or 10 seconds would help given the duck and cover instruction and the that we had to get inside a door frame, it wouldn't be the worse thing in the world. there might be lives saved. >> it doesn't replace the importance of building codes and understand where earthquakes happen, but in the bay area we have a series of faults we know are part of the system moving the pacific plate against the northern american plate. this is an ongoing issue and a future hazard. how do people know what to do? we have the great shake out that happens and an opportunity for people to get used to that. that will determine life after the event. >> it has been hit since 1989. we have 24 and under that have never faced anything like this. this does provide a lot of older buildings that hit the hardest with that opportunity. do you think they should make retro fitting mandatory? >> a lot of the buildings in california especially residential, you are looking at a wood construction. you think about a place like right behind me here, the capitol building and a lot of areas of the country, earthquakes are a national hazard and we align with the virginia earthquake. there a lot of these masonry buildings, older brick structures that absolutely pose an ongoing threat. it's an important consideration. there cost factors, but when you come to safety, this is an important aspect. >> thank you very much for being on the show this morning. coming up, a big night for music's biggest stars at the vmas including a miley cyrus shocker, but not for the reasons you think. someone got smart. what will the emmy awards hold in store? 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>> the vma goes to -- miley cyrus! >> this year miley managed to make her presence felt without "dirty dancing" or uttering a word with that crazy tongue by sending up a young homeless man who accepted the video award on her behalf. >> i'm accepting this on behalf of the 1.6 million runaways and youth who are starving, lot of and scared for their lives. i know this because i'm one of these people. >> it was queen bee who owned and closed the night. with a 20 minute long performance that included all 15 songs off her new album. jay z and daughter looked on before jay z presented her with the michael jackson video award. >> and the recipient of the award and the greatest entertainer, beyonce. >> i love y'all so much. my beloved, i love you. mtv, i love you. good night. >> i always say my little 11-year-old girl and i say this is beyonce's world, we are just visiting. thanks for that recap. you creep us out, but that's okay. >> that voice. >> chief creative officer. nbc content. for the billboard, quite a night. it wasn't only beyonce's night, i have been noticing for the past several years, other than maroon five getting every few song, enough of maroon 5 already. they are all women. women dominate radio in a way they never have in 60 years of rock history. >> it's amazing when you look at the three women who opened the show. nicky minaj, jesse j and arianna grandee. they are the hottest things in music. >> at the top of that, taylor swift selling a gozillion albums. >> about to launch a huge album that will probably be the first million seller since she last sold a million. >> the last male artist to sell that many was tom petty. the best album in 60 years. >> 63-year-old tom petty. women are in charge now. >> women are on social media a lot more. teenage girls love to talk about other girls. these are the cool chicks right now. they wear the clothes and they have the look. anyway, be that as it may, look what they are saying. can you interpret that for me? >> that's horrible. please, i'm not really -- i'm a cave man lawyer and i don't understand your strange ways. >> i didn't say i liked it. there is talking right there too. let's move on. i'm going to stop looking at the screen. you were talking about how terribly -- it's a race to the bottom. terribly how they dress. why do they go out of their way to just dress -- >> this is the brand of the mvt vmas. we are all too old for mtv. >> thank god. >> the brand is to shock and horrify people like us and it makes the kids feel good. the amazing thing is we might sit here and say it's not about music anymore. nobody watches it. for kids it means something. they have been able to stay young without having their audience grow old with them. >> i'm not sure if someone 45 showed up banging. she looked good. >> some might say it's too much if you are j-lo to turn up at the vmas. >> i get two words. age appropriate. that makes me 387 pounds. >> you look perfect. >> let's get to serious stuff. the emmys. who do you like? >> i'm going to say there is no chance for john hamm. i think john hamm, it works against women and it works against men too. he is too good-looking for his own good. >> that's my problem. is that what you are thinking? why are you laughing? >> he will be the most nominated to ever not win. it will be his seventh year. mad men is off its game and didn't have the buzz and the ratings. there hot newcomer shows that people like more. >> who wins? breaking bad, game thrones, downton abby. >> this is something that could happen. it could be a war against breaking bad and -- >> house of cars. >> no, true detective. they will split the vote and game of thrones will come in for the upset. >> it will shoot in through the middle. orange is the new black and silicon valley, that's my pick. big bang theory and "veep." >> you will be disappointed. >> silicon valley will be in last place. >> the darling is orange is the new black. it has everything going for it. the transgendered nominee and one the of the hottest show create ares and it's on netflix. >> another show that we are talking about women. this is an incredible cast of women. >> very diverse women. probably the most diverse show on television. it's not on television. >> crazy eyes won the emmy. >> crazy eyes. >> if carrie washington wins for scandal as lead actress, she would be the first black actress to win that category. what is this? 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good morning. it is tuesday, september 23. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. for the first time the united states launching airstrikes against isis in syria. >> the bombings are part of an historic alliance. five arab nations working with the united states to help destroy terrorists. >> but how will syria react? and are we safe at home? right here at home. because many have come over here after serving over this. "fox & friends" on this tuesday starts right now. i wasn't kidding. i meant right now. >> we want to thank you for joining us. we're going to get right to that fox news alert for you. overnight the united states and five arab allies launching airstrikes in syria against isis terrorists. until now the attacks have been concentrated in iraq. >> doug luzader is in washington, d.c. doug, things got started last night about 9 p.m. eastern time. what do we know so far? >> reporter: the focus of these strikes has been in syria. what is a little bit surprising about this perhaps, all of the arab nations that were involved in this, these five were involved to one degree or another, four out of those five took part in the attacks themselves. we have amateur video believed to be showing the impact of these airstrikes. you're talking about strikes that were carried out by carrier-based aircraft as well as 47 tom hawk cruise missiles. as the president will say this was a collective effort. it does raise the question what's next. isis fighters have known for days the u.s. intended to launch these strikes. many figured isis will regroup and many -- may use the attacks to boost recruitment efforts. >> they're going to hunker down especially in eastern syria and iraq. they have been through this before and know what to expect when american airstrikes come. >> one final note of the timing on this. congress has already left town, so these strikes began after congress left for their recess. that is interesting because this was this ongoing question of whether the president would need congressional authority to do this. we don't know if that's why they waited to this point to launch the strikes, but there are certainly going to be some members of congress that will raise some eyebrows offense the the -- eyebrows over the timing of this. >> meanwhile after the airstrikes, israeli defense forces, in another fox news alert, israelis shot down a syrian jet that entered its airspace. is that related? john huddy live in jerusalem. what was that jet doing that the israelis shot it out of the sky? >> reporter: looks like they were hitting rebel targets. rebel factions have been battling the syrian government right along the israeli border on the syrian side. it appears at this point that the fighter jet, the syrian fighter strayed into israeli airspace and then israel shot it down with a patriot missile. really at this point it's not connected with the u.s. airstrikes that are going on. remember, the israeli border is to the south, is in the southern part of syria and a lot of fighting with isis has been to the north. so that said, the syrian foreign ministry issued a statement earlier saying that the american side -- by the way, we got amateur video of smoke from that fighter jet as it went down. we're hearing the pilots were able to eject in time. syria's foreign ministry in terms of the u.s. airstrikes that have been going on, released a statement saying that the american side informed syria's permanent envoy to the u.n. that the strikes will be launched against the -- terrorist organization in rakah. it is in the northern part of syria. it's been a main battle front, all that area isis has controlled between the syrian government and isis as well. when president obama announced this 12 days ago, the syrian government and syrian officials said without consent from damascus it would be considered an act of aggression. whether syria has given its consent is unclear. but syria's deputy prime minister is in new york. he will be speaking, or scheduled to speak on monday followed by israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu. whether any of this will come up in terms of the fighter being shot down -- and remember, i also want to point out that there was a syrian drone that israel also shot down a couple weeks ago because of the fighting along the border. so, again, it does not look whae hearing from the israeli army that this has anything to do with the u.s. airstrikes or syria's response. >> syria was informed by their foreign minister yesterday that they were going to be hitting, we were going to be hitting and it was going to be that night. they did not say a word. why would they? it works on their behalf because isis eventually was going to get to the government. when you look at this coalition, it is significant. and the president really should be praised as well as secretary of state john kerry. he got bahrain, saudi arabia, the u.a.e. you even have qatar working with the u.s. to attack isis sites. the u.s. on its own struck a different area, we understand, against a brand-new terror group that some say is more dangerous. >> al qaeda fighters from pakistan and afghanistan migrated into syria. there were eight separate attacks that occurred there by the united states forces only. >> you know what's curious about the announcement? by the way, we should point out the pentagon announced last night at 9:30 eastern time that the bombing started. yet there was a guy on the ground in raqqa who was on twitter saying the sky is filled with drones. what is curious is after the fighting actually started, the pentagon through one of its spokes people -- by the way we're going to talk to admiral kirby in about an hour to find out what's going on over there. somebody from the pentagon, a spokesperson said last night was the most intense night of the syrian airstrike campaign. all the fighting for the most part, they make it sound like, just happened. if you're isis, it's kind of like we made it through the night, we'll probably be okay tomorrow. >> maybe. >> looks like they're fighting arm in arm in terms of these airstrikes here. it raises eyebrows to think all partners here, arab nations, none are european nations. everyone has eyes on turkey. will they step up and join the united states, the coalition of arab nations in these air airstrikes. this is significant because it is not the religious war, not the religious attack isis claimed. it undermines their argument that this is about theory and religion because you have sunni fighting extremes. >> it's very significant that we have four arab muslim countries, all sunni-based countries attacking a sunni-based terrorist organization. that did not come easy. many of these were urging the united states to do something about assad before, but now this is isis. so it is significant, in my judgment. qatar not attacking. qatar, i think, has problems because they have been aiding isis financially from the beginning, and they also aid hamas. and i always felt we have to do something about this country. maybe this is an indication that they're willing to change their stripes. i doubt it. we'll see what happens. >> i thought ità÷ was also interesting too that egypt said, who was not involved in this, not only are we willing to help. we think the u.s. should expand it to other terrorists beyond syria and iraq. >> the agreement established under george bush, congress authorize use of force is what it goes back to in terms of did we actually get approval here? they're using the ability to go after al qaeda here in the case of isis. >> we just into our news room received more video of some of the airstrikes overnight. there so far have been varying reports of the number of airstrikes but let's go ahead and take a look at what we just got into the news room. >> that is one of the 47 tomahawks shot off last night. the u.s. and our coalition partners, drones, bombers, fighters, tomahawks and for the first time in combat history we deployed the stealth f-22. that was used over this as well as we detail what a tomahawk does and how much it cost. $1.5 million a copy. we shot off 47 of them. >> about 20 targets. >> we have about one aircraft -- i -- we have one aircraft carrier. it is important there are base attacks from the u.a.e., bahrain and saudi arabia who we thought would only commit to train the free syrian army. now we find out they're willing to take action. >> we have three aircraft carriers which are really good. world reaction? the president is going to find out a little later on today. he's going to be here in new york city for the united nations general assembly, going to be talking about the climate change today. but it sounds like he's going to try to rally the world tomorrow. speaking of the world, russia has condemned the airstrikes against isis because we did not coordinate them with syria. we did call syria and we said we're going to strike. don't try to shoot us down or that would be really bad. >> russia has one real ally in the area. the whole dating thing with egypt did not work out. they have a huge naval base right in syria and they are extremely concerned, as is iran, about losing assad. we're hitting isis, who would in a sense be an enemy of the shia government. eventually we're going to get to them, and that's what russia worries about. >> there is concern there. the lesser of the two evils we're aiming to fight now and what will come. will turkey jump into this airstrike game, to put it mildly there? >> they look at syria. when assad got shaky, turkey rejoiced. they want him out. >> whatever we do, russia is not going to like it. look, we're out to get isis. they're out to kill us, and we're out to get them first. meanwhile 11 minutes after 6:00 eastern time here in new york city. coverage continues in a minute. up next, the war on isis has come to our doorstep. late-breaking details on isis fighters who are on american soil as we speak. >> and a major update to those three afghan soldiers who disappeared from the military base right here in the united states. they were found at the canadian border. what in the world were they doing there? keep it right here. you can eat that on weight watchers? looks amazing. looks like my next dinner party. that's only 4 points? with weight watchers you can enjoy the food you really want. dine out on favorites... or cook up something new. i can do this every day. join for free and start losing weight now. learn how to eat healthier, while enjoying the foods you love. get inspired at meetings, online, or both. weight watchers because it works. ♪ ♪ "here i am. rock you like a hurricane." ♪ fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. i can face my 3rd grade class trip. tying shoes, fixing pigtails, and chasing after them when their wonder turns to wander. hannah. new tena instadry. designed for those unexpected leaks with 864 tiny funnels to zip wetness away. and even when you twist not a drop escapes. that's fearless protection poise maximum can't match. 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>> excellent question. they're trying to do that. here's why i think this source is accurate. the day after the police executed the search want, the police chief gave a press conference and in that press conference he made it clear -- and i watched it myself. he said he wants people in that community to look on their properties for fresh tire tracks. why did he say that and why did he emphasize that? because he had in the back of his mind, he knew that because of what they found on this car it should match up somewhere in that area. one other thing quickly here. the police are also trying to figure out where was mr. matthew a week ago saturday and sunday? he worked at the hoe cal hospital there. but we don't know whether or not he called in sick or if he just took a couple of days off. but they cannot account for his whereabouts those two days right after hannah went missing. >> i think everyone is frustrated by the fact that they had him. they had him right there for questioning and didn't go any further. >> he wasn't trying to talk to the police either. that's what my source told me. he wasn't trying to talk. he lawyered up very quickly. >> disturbing. rod, we want to thank you. if anyone has any information we want to encourage them to be in contact with the charlottesville police department tip line at 434-295-2851. rod, thank you. coming up, we know about the arab countries that they are helping the united states attack syria. what's more interesting is that the countries are in fact not helping, the ones that are not we're going to tell you about and why. our live team coverage continues with that in just a minute. know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. back with a fox news alert. overnight the u.s. carrying out airstrikes against isis militants enside syria. this marking a may diswror diswror -- major expansion in the war against the terror group. the u.s. damaging 14 isis targets with an air barrage that includes 47 tomahawk missiles. >> five arab nations including the united arab nations and qatar joining in this mission. all american personnel are safe this morning. >> a fox news alert. we know about the five arab countries helping the united states attack isis locations inside syria but what's more interesting may be the countries that are not helping us. joining us is fox news terror analyst walid farris. we put up on the screen the five arab countries that are helping us. what about the countries that are not? in particular, turkey. they have been a longtime ally of ours. why are they sitting on their hands this morning? >> out of the five arab countries helping us, four are seriously helping us and qatar is basically trying to help us but not in coordination with the other arab countries. i'll make a point about that. turkey is the most serious country that could help us. it has borders with syria, borders with iraq. it could cross the border and strike isis or allow us to use our bases and their bases in turkey. it could use ground forces to go in and dismantle. it is not doing that. why? because the government in turkey in the past helped some of the jihadists move inside syria so they will be in trouble with the people they have helped. them are now isis and which are not. >> they're providing some individuals the red carpet for jihadists to cross. also reports saying they have been buying black market oil from isis. >> that, they could handle. the thing more difficult for the turks is if they want to strike now against the organizations they have helped, they don't know to what extent these organizations could damage them in return because some of them are in turkey as well. beyond that, there is the position of the government of turkey that they don't want to be engaged in a war against islamist militias inside seernl. >> you know the history. to get this four or thee or five that are aggressive, even with qatar in a supporting role is pretty historic. there is reason to be happy. the fact is only 20 airstrikes seems relatively low compared to what we're used to maybe over 100 a day. in the big picture could turkey be helping us illicitly, doing things on the down low which is why we're not critical of them? >> these are not little neighborhoods. this is not little mafia at work. if turkey wants to help, the president of turkey goes in front of the parliament and says i'm part of the coalition. this is not hang. i'm sure the turkey government is saying to the united states we could help you. that is happening. but they don't want to appear in front of their own public that they are part of the campaign so far. it may change. >> something else. in addition to the isis locations, and apparently we did take out the raqqa government building there in raqqa, which is the headquarters for isis. apparently it has been leveled. then they told fighters to go out into the rural areas. but in addition to isis locations, apparently we also hit with airstrikes the group of fighters from afghanistan and pakistan. apparently they were nearing the execution phase of an attack either on the united states or e.u. targets. what can you tell us about this group? >> this group is, according to officials, pretty much the most dangerous group because it is targeting the united states homeland. it is targeting western countries. it doesn't act much in the region. it tries to coordinate with all those jihadists returning to the united states or returning to the european union and then they want to get action here. most of them were al qaeda. i would even suspect they have still links to al qaeda. now these strikes are targeting isis, are targeting one group, al nusra and the korasand group as well. >> there is a reason to act, just like that group the yazidis were on these mountains, saved a lot of them. i understand the syrian kurds have been pushed out of the area by isis. 130,000 go flooding into turkey. at the u.n. yesterday there was a plea to act. i wonder what role that played. >> that could have been one of the reasons to prompt the leadership to act quickly. why? because the kurds in syria would have been among those moderates contemplating to train and help. isis heard us. isis did a preemptive strike against them, took about eight to nine villages, pushed tens of thousands out and were continuing to push out against turkey. >> in phase 2 here as we move forward, who do-wwr you see stepping up to take the lead in this fight in the region? >> first of all, in the region as a whole i'm still looking at egypt. egypt is very important, has the largest arab army which is trained by us. it has a significant air force. it has a tank force, ground force. most importantly a large special forces along with the jordanians that would be the spearhead of any ground operation. but i don't see yet arab forces with units on the ground. it may happen. that would be on the regional helpful. >> egypt is saying the right things. they say they want in and are encouraging the u.s. to expand the war beyond isis. >> yes, they are playing the role that we should have played by saying isis -- they allegedly are conducting an air raid with the u.a.e. against the jihadists in libya. they are pretty much going regional at this point in time. >> this is going to be complete speculation but how do you think this phone call went? when the united states yesterday called the envoy to syria and said, okay, we're going to have these strikes against locations in your country. don't go messing with us or you're in big trouble. >> i think that phone call was unilateral. we just informed them because now i'm reading in the arab blog that the ambassador, whoever it was informed the ministry of foreign affairs in syria and the syrian government actually aired it on syrian tv. they said we got a phone call from the united states and that's what they told us and no comments at all about it. they know if they respond, we'll respond heavily. >> are you for bombing the syrian air bases too? >> without them engaging us, i don't think we should do it now. but if they engage us, absolutely. then all the plans are to be executed against those air defenses. but they are smart enough. i think they have coordinated with the iranians. they want us to take out isis. my real concern on the ground, who is going to take the positions of isis if we strike them seriously. >> walid, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> meanwhile, heather nauert is poised to tell us what else is happening around the world. >> he faces the rest of his life behind bars. bin laden's son-in-law in federal court hood right here in new york city to face charges that he helped terrorists kill americans. you can expect security around that courthouse to be at an all-time high. he was convicted in march for his role as an al qaeda spokesman following the terror attacks on 9/11. brand-new details about those three afghan soldiers who went missing on american soil. they are in custody after trying to cross into canada near niagara falls. they say they were looking for asylum. they were in the united states for training exercises at camp edward. >> breaking news out of israel this morning. israeli special forces gunning down two hamas militants accused of killing three israeli teenagers. they were hiding out in a building in the west bank. the attack on those teenagers led to that 50-day war between israel and hamas in the gaza strip. >> new video shows isis linked terror groups threatening to behead a frenchman. a kidnapper saying they will kill the hostage within 24 hours if france does not stop airstrikes in iraq. it is just a matter of time, pennsylvania police say they have the accused cop killer eric frein cornered. officials received, quote, credible tips on the 31-year-old. he is believed to be moving on foot in the dense woods of the pocono mountains. those are your headlines. >> thank you very much. >> a lot of breaking news. we can't tell you for sure what's coming up. we know it is going to be important. we know this rear admiral john kirby live from the pentagon. does the president have authority to bomb syria without congressional approval. judge napolitano says even though congress is gone the president has painted himself into a corner and the judge has turned the corner. he is approaching the stage. here he is. 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>> well, it's important to attack these guys before they attack us. this would be like attacking al-qaeda in afghanistan before 9-11. so i think it's a step in the right direction. i'm encouraged by it. but i don't think it will be sufficient in the long run because even if we destroy isis, and the others, there will be more islamic terror groups. ever since the 1970s, americans have been attacked under every single president, since jimmy carter, starting with our embassy in tehran. unless we stop radical islam from saudi arabia, qatar and iran, we're going to continue to be attacked. >> there were eight air strikes aimed there. why are they significant? >> they're significant because they stopped the plot on the united states. the group is made up of people from afghanistan, pakistan, jihadis that were members of al-qaeda before. they want to strike the u.s. homeland and it's important we stop them before they could put their plots in place. they could have suicide bombers in trucks or anything like that around the country. >> here is a clue, they came to the aleppo region to work on their nonmetallic bombs which are able to get through our airports without being detected. >> that's right. it's very scary. tsa might not be able to catch them of the that's why it's important to stop them. the bottom line is we've got to convince saudi arabia, qatar and iran to stop exporting radical islam. the world has changed so much since the 1970s. basically we've had this proxy war between the sunnies exporting their types and they spent over $1 billion to export their wahabbiism. if you look at pictures in the '70, women were dresses and skirts. that's all over now because of the ideology. you got to stamp out the ideology and tear it out by the root. >> it also has to come from within, the people of afghanistan, of iraq, of saudi arabia have to say this is ridiculous. why am i not driving cars? why am i wearing these burqas? why can't i do what the internet says i should be able to do. in the big picture right now, is surviving winning if you'reum isis? if we damage them, but they're able to say i'm still here, are they winning? >> brian, i think so. i think if they can live to fight another day, they're going to do it. a lot of their heavy weapons will be destroyed that they stole from the iraqi army that we gave to the iraqi army when they crumbled. a lot of their control centers. >> i guess the concern of some american people, this seems to be a step in the right direction in terms of crushing isis. but the idea we may be able to sustain attention there and say okay, that's good enough, we're out. no more air strikes, isis is done, just like we thought al-qaeda was dead and on the run, that's the fear the american people have. is that valid? >> absolutely, elisabeth. commitment is a big deal. here is another big deal. acquisition program. we shot 47 tom hawks today. but the obama administration has funded 100 for the whole year. that's crazy to me. >> that's the general odierno said over the weekend. you're cutting us back, cutting more next year and cutting us down to under 400,000. you're starting any improvements in the r and d. you can not continue to cut and demand at the same time. republicans and democrats should restore the sequester cuts. >> that's absolutely right. we're looking at a trillion dollars in cuts over a decade that. will hollow out the decade like during the 1970s. we're not going to be able to defend ourselves like we are today. >> it's up to the military to step up and make -- i remember senator sessions said we're going to keep the sequester in place. that's a republican. democrats are happy to cut one thing, the military. and the republicans who have that theme of cutting say i can't just say don't cut the military and not anything else. so together, the military is paying the price. >> you're absolutely right. they're paying the price and it's dangerous for america. it's a sad day for us really and we've got to get our head around the problem and that is we've got to stop this radical islam or it will be whack a mole for generations and we can't afford that either. >> we want to thank you for being with us and your service. >> thank you. >> talking about what we just found out. the group was poised to act and that's why the u.s. jets took them out last night. the very first bombing campaign against isis happening as we speak. how will the president address it when he heads to the u.n. today? ed henry here live on the couch walking through the door so very close. good morning. today is tuesday, september 23. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we are waking up to breaking news this morning. the united states unleashing air strikes in syria for the first time. isis targets hit. this with the help of arab nations. when will the president speak? ed henry here on the curvy couch with breaking details. >> more breaking news. u.s. forces say they have foiled what they're calling an imminent terrorist attack in its tracks on the united states for our european allies and this threat is not from isis. it's from an al-qaeda group. >> wow, what does president obama's war mean for our military? will he be able to keep his promise, no boots on the ground? our military panel breaks down the options like no other. "fox & friends" starts right now. on this tuesday, ed henry, who joins us today from usually washington, you're here in new york because the president is supposed to talk at the united nations general assembly, you've got news about the strikes. >> breaking news, president will speak from the white house before he leaves for new york. he's leaving about 10:20 a.m. eastern time. so we expect he would do that from the white house about 10:00 a.m. eastern time. yes, he's coming here to new york, talk about the u.n. meetings, rally allies. but i think what's significant is the timing of why they started late yesterday. i think there is two parts of this. the president two weeks ago basically gave the authorization to the u.s. military to expand this bombing campaign into syria beyond just iraq when he spoke to the nation. general lloyd austin of central command made the decision yesterday, give it the green light and move forward, in part because i think as you've been talking about, this al-qaeda affiliated group that was plotting, we knew for days they had been plot to go launch terrorist attacks here in the u.s., potentially western europe as well, significant that the u.s. government for the first time is saying, they think there were imminent attacks that this group was plotting. that's significant. remember how much criticism the president has taken for suggesting that isis, for example, was just a jv group that we didn't necessarily is to worry about just a few months ago. this other group and al-qaeda affiliates he warned these are dangerous, but not necessarily with imminent attacks on the u.s. so the u.s. military decided to move because they were concerned about the potential for a terrorist attack. >> acting alone, the arab partners there, the five did not participate in the strikes. >> specifically the asurasan. the five went forward with the air strikes and helped the u.s. in terms of targeting isis, their command and control, as well as training facilities. bahrain, and four others. how long will they be in the fight? that's one of the things the president will be dealing with. >> we just saw some video in the open and it's something we just got from our aircraft carrier showing 47 tomahawk missiles went off last night. let's look at how it sounded. so that happened 47 times, along with we think 20 separate strikes. perhaps it's the most significant thing and a huge victory for secretary kerry and the president is he's got four, maybe as many as five sunni nations doing most of the air strikes. does it mean france or australia or us is out? it means they're in first. >> france has been helping with air strikes in iraq, but said up front we're not helping in syria. so who will be there for us? will the brits step up at some point or other partners? that's part of what the president will push for here at the u.n. i think something significant, our colleagues got an interview with the egyptian president. he says look, i'm supportive of the president widening this fight -- >> widening it? >> but then goes on to say, the administration can't, quote, wash its hands of the middle east. so there is a warning in will as well that ties into why some allies may be hesitant to get involved, saying is the u.s. going to be in this fight for the long haul or is this a little bit of, as some u.s. officials are saying, shock without the awe? >> let's talk about the chronology. we know the president was down at cencon and it was general austin who called the president yesterday and asked for authorization. >> he already technically had the authorization and general austin could move forward on his own. i'm told the president was being briefed by general austin and his folks throughout the night last night. so the green light is coming from general austin. the president gave that authorization in the last couple weeks when he spoke to the nation and last week, secretary hagel already told us that last week he and general dempsey had authorized strike plans inside syria and that those plans were briefed to the president by general austin at cencom last week. he had already authorized strikes, but was not authorizing specific plans. >> was the president and mr. kerry, were they out trying to get as many countries as possible lined up before we went forward? >> absolutely. the president last week said we've got over 40 countries helping us. but among most of those 40, they're helping maybe with humanitarian and other things. the key part is these five arab nations that you've been naming who are saying we're helping with the air strikes. we're helping with actual military action. france last week, the administration was touting that. yes, progress, they got france to help in iraq. france doesn't want to help in syria. that's where the head of the snake is. >> and one thing i thought the goal was and a lot of military people are saying is not so much hitting them with as many bombs as possible and from many different direction, they want isis to not know where the next hit is coming from, where they can move and where they can't move. do you have any credence or back up to this, that general austin asked to hit in syria and president obama said no, not unless i give you permission. therefore, at some point the president said you can hit in syria? >> well, look, they've been going back and forth on this in the white house about when did the president technically authorize it. bottom line is two weeks ago he told the nation on the record, on camera, we are moving forward with air strikes in syria. it's just when do we move forward specifically. he had already given general austin the broad authority to say i'm expanding this air campaign. by the way, we've been reporting about syria, there were more u.s. air strikes in iraq yesterday. so that continues. specifically, though, general austin was waiting for when do we move forward? that happened yesterday. >> with a will half moving forward into the conversations of turkey and the president -- >> that's another important ally that's supposed to be and should be helping, giving its influence in the region, but they've been dragging their feet for various reasons. one is what i was mentioning with egypt, are some of the folks in the region saying wait a second, we want to see how the early stages of this go and will the u.s. be in it for the long haul? the president two weeks ago said this won't be a short situation. this will take months and months and we'll have to degrade and destroy isis. it's not going to be shock and awe in the first couple hours. >> we asked walid phares. he gave his assessment of the region. take a listen. >> turkey is really the most serious country that could help us. it has borders with syria, borders with iraq. it could cross the border and strike isis or allow us to use our bases and their bases in turkey and use ground forces to go in and dismantle, but they're not doing that. why? because the government in turkey in the past have helped some of the jihaddist move inside syria. so they'll be in trouble with the people who they have helped. they don't know which of them are now isis and which are not. >> so that's egypt group could play a major role and we think turkey will do something. we don't know what deal they cut to get their hostages out. >> saying we're not going to get into it. the other thing is what does president assad in syria going to do? the u.s. resisted to get involved in the syrian civil war. now what we're trying to deal with isis, we're in and how far do we go? number two, the other important thing that happened overnight is that israel, another key ally, shot down a syrian fighter jet that went into the golan heights, violated israeli air space. what else is going on in this region? we've got our eyes specifically in syria. there is a whole heck of a lot going on in the region. >> absolutely. we've been speaking internationally. let's talk about american politics. a lot of members of congress have made it very clear to the president of the united states, if you're going to do something, you got to come to congress and we've got to authorize it. as it turns out, he said go ahead and get them while congress is on vacation. >> i think judge napolitano was right. it's another thing -- i failed to mention in terms of timing, i think the potentially imminent threat from these terrorists, yes, that was an important part of timing. but also yes, judge napolitano is right, congress is now gone. if obama got started last week, there would be more pressure last week. the president gets a lot of heat for this, but there is a lot of lawmakers who say, we should have a vote. and then oh, i got a plane ticket, i'm going home. they want to go home and campaign. >> what about the timing of the united nations general assembly, the reason you're here, starts today for all intents and purposes. >> i suspect that's why he's speaking from the white house, climate change. a big priority of the administration, when you've got bombs falling over syria. >> leon panetta, gates, dempsey all come out and question the president's strategy. did it have any effect on what's happening? >> that "60 minutes" piece was pretty powerful. i don't think that was the final piece on the timing. when you had the president's former pentagon chief saying we should have left troops behind in iraq, that was a mistake. something the white house doesn't want to admit. again, i'm not saying it had anything to do with when the bombing started, but that puts more political pressure on this administration when it's not just a republican critic, it's now his former defense secretary saying we made mistakes. every admission gets advice from different advisors. the commander in chief has to make the final call. he's made calls, whether it's red lines, bringing troops home from iraq that he's going to argue were the right decision at the time. but maybe if they had a chance to do a do over, they'd think again. >> it will be interesting to see what the advisors have to say about this latest move. >> good to see you. coming up on this very busy tuesday, the president has said we're not at war. but what will the president say this morning when he addresses the nation? we just heard from ed. he's going to do that probably around 10:00 o'clock this morning. we're going to talk to the pentagon's top spokesperson, admiral john kirby next, and he'll tell us what he knows. and brand-new details about this guy, the man wanted in connection with a missing college student. what we just learned about him and why police let him go in the first place. fox news alert. moments ago we learned president obama will address the nation. this just hours after launching military strikes in syria. so is america at war? rear admiral john kirby joins us live. admiral, big day in news. i guess let's just go with the headline. is it official now, we're at war with isis? >> we've been saying that for quite some time. i said that about a week or so ago. we're definitely at war with isil the same we're at war with al-qaeda. >> it's the same thing. last night also speaking of al-qaeda, i understand one of the things that we did by ourselves, not with the sunni allied states in the region, was to hit korsan because of an imminent threat. >> without too much detail, this is a very dangerous group, al-qaeda offshoot. we had good information that they were very actively plotting and very close to the end of that plotting and planning an attack on targets either in europe or the u.s. homeland. we had enough information to go after them and so we did. you're right. these were u.s. only strikes against the group in and around near aleppo and we're still assessing the effectiveness of those strikes, but we think we hit what we were aiming at. >> well done by our military and our hats are off to them and thankful for keeping us safe. let me ask you this, something that someone says was not well done was now we're actually paying the price of leon panetta for not arming moderate syrian rebels sooner. take a listen to this while we have you we'd love your reaction. >> in retrospect now, was not arming the rebels at that time a mistake? >> i think that would have helped and i think in part we paid a price for not doing that and inn what we see happening with isis. >> are we playing catch up now? >> i don't know if i want to get into armchair quarterbacking this thing after the fact. i can tell you is our focus right now is on training and equipping a moderate syrian opposition. we asked congress for and received approval from them for about $500 million to train and equip moderate opposition going forward. it's going to take us some months to get that training and equip mission going and even more months after that, probably up to a year, before we can get opposition forces in the field. but we're very much dedicated to that. that's a priority for secretary hagel and we're looking forward to moving forward with that. as you know, saudi arabia came forward and offered a training facility that we can use. so that was a big piece of the puzzle and we're moving forward. >> what happens in the meantime? if that takes up to 18 months to properly train, who is handling all the business there in the months between? >> you still have a moderate opposition that is going after threats inside syria. they're going after the assad regime and isil. that's going to continue as well. there are other ways in which the united states is supporting the moderate opposition in addition to this which will take a little time to get started. you saw what happened last night. we put a lot of pressure on isil and now putting pressure in syria. i think you can expect to see that pressure continue as well. >> since we've got you here, there have been a number of news stories out because peopst gath. can you tell us how many air strikes were pulled off and whether or not we hit what we were intending to hit? >> yeah. great question. we conducted against isil targets with our arab partners 14 -- we hit 14 different target areas inside syria last night. also eight strikes against this group we talked about was u.s. only. so 22 total strikes last night. i can tell you that we used the dozens and doddss -- dozens of tactical from nations and tomahawk strikes. we had a couple of drone strikes, dropping almost more than i could say more than 150 precision guided munitions. 99% of all the munitions dropped last night were precision guided munitions. we took very, very care to make sure we were hitting what we were aiming at and not causing collateral damage. we don't have any indications that we did. we do and we're starting to collect sort of get an assessment. we believe we hit largely everything we were aiming at. >> here are the countries we understand took part. qatar, saudi arabia, bahrain, jordan and the uae. one country missing that probably has the biggest army and could be the most valuable is turkey. where were they? where are they in the process of joining us or leaving us alone? >> well, turkey was not a participant last night, as you know. i won't speak for another government and what they're willing to do or not do. this is a key nato ally. they're partner in the region. they have borders with both countries, iraq and syria. they have a refugee issue that they're dealing with. so they are -- just by their geography, they'll be a partner here and a coalition member. they've indicated they want to participate. we're leaving it up to each nation to sort of characterize that on their own. >> can isis be defeated without turkey? >> we recognize isil cannot be defeated if it's not defeated regionally by nations in the region, everybody chip not guilty and participating. again, i want to give great credit to general austin in central command for pulling together this terrific coalitioó yesterday. having five arab nations join us in this effort is not insignificant. i think something to be commended. >> rear admiral john kirby joining us from the pentagon where i've got a feeling they're going to be drinking a lot of coffee 'cause you did an all nighter last night. thank you very much. >> it was a busy night, thank you very much for having me. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. breaking news out of israel, israelis, special forces shot down a syrian jet for the first time since 1982. what was that jet doing over israel? we are live in jerusalem with syria's sorry excuse. and major update to those three afghan soldiers who disappeared from a military base right here in the united states. they were found at the canadian border. what in the world were they doing there? we're going to tell you. keep it right here. more breaking news overnight. israeli defense forces shot down a syrian jet that entered israeli air space. is it related to the u.s. air strikes in isis, people are wondering? >> joining us live from jerusalem with the breaking details on this, john huddy. good morning to you. so can you connect the dots for us here? are these related at all? >> reporter: no. it doesn't look like that. believed that this jet that was shot down is connected to or retaliation by syria in any way to the u.s. air strikes. remember, syria borders israel and there has been an intense amount of fighting there between syria's government and antigovernment rebel forces. so there has been stray fire coming into israel, a drone from syria was shot down over israel a couple weeks ago. then you had this fighter that strays into israeli air space, most likely targeting those rebel factions along the border and israel shoots it down with a patriot missile. we have amateur video showing the smoke rising. we believe that the plan, according to israeli newspapers now, went down in syria. we're also hearing the pilots were able to eject in time. >> it does sound like they were turning around to go back. they strayed into israeli air space. but john, the israelis are very adamant. if anybody comes into our air space with anything, we're going to shoot them down and that's exactly what they did. >> reporter: right. and as i said, it's happened before. a fighter jet getting knocked out, that hasn't happened since 1982. so this is very -- that's interesting. but again, it's not -- it's not believed to be connected in any way. if anything, if you want to say anything about it, it's just really bad timing by syria's military. >> in the big picture, when you think of the jerusalem post and put it on the news, how worried are the israelis that we're going to do a deal with the devil, meaning iran, to take out isis? >> reporter: well, i don't think that's going to be the case at all. israel's prime minister, netanyahu, says israel fully supports the u.s. in the fight against isis. but look, you're right. iran, russia, china have all supported syria. iran really is considered to be among other enemies, really israel's greatest threat. >> all right. john huddy live in jerusalem with the very latest. last night u.s. air strikes on isis targets inside syria. simultaneously. now we know unrelated probably, the israelis shot down a syrian jet. >> we thank john for joining us this morning here. our live team coverage continues in just a moment. coming up, all eyes are on bin laden's son-in-law at this hour. why he's on american soil and what is expected to happen to him. >> and you just heard from the pentagon's top guy saying we're at war with isis. the same way we're at war with al-qaeda. so what does that mean? we've assembled a panel of great military minds to react to that and to last night's bombing escapade. this is "fox & friends". dñ back now with a fox news alert on this tuesday morning. overnight the united states carrying out air strikes against isis militants inside syria. this marks a major expansion in the war against the brutal terror group isis or isil. the united states and our allies destroying or damaging 14 isis targets with a blistering aerial barrage of more than 140 tomahawk missiles. rear admiral john kirby saying they had credible evidence and intelligence that isis was actively plotting attacks against the united states and europe. five arab nations, including the united arab emirates, jordan, bahrain, and qatar all helping out with the mission. all american personnel, aircraft and people, are safe this morning. that's an update. brian? >> 29 minutes before the top of the hour. joining us now to expand on what steve just talked about are lieutenant general richard newton, former assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs, bing west, and anthony schaefer, all have their own sources about this very strike. first off, general, what stands out to you about what happened? for us we're used to hearing many more strikes overnight. we hear just 14 in syria. what do you think? >> i think first off it's significant. it's a relentless strike against isis forces last night. it was also what stands out for me is the fact that we had this coalition carved together with arab sunni leaders. i think that's significant. it's historic. i think we'll see more of this in the coming days. >> it's not an easy thing to do to get these sunni nations to attack a sunni terrorist group, is it? >> no, but the question still out there, because this is a regional war, is whether the arab states extracted from us, from president obama the promise to cut the air bridge that goes from iran across iraq into syria to keep props up assad and props up the hezbollah that are such a danger in lebanon. so i haven't heard anyone address that. but that's critical for these arab states. >> so just to expand on that, you're saying that these sunni nations, we respond to the fact that we're looking to push aside iran, where earlier leading up to the strikes there were words making overtures to get iran involved. if that happened, we don't get five sunni nations joining us? >> well, that's part of it. the other part is whether president obama, who wants a deal with iran about nuclear weapons, whether he's willing to be hard on them and say, huh-uh, we're not going to allow you to continue to prop up assad and cause mischief. we're going to cut that air bridge. >> colonel what, do you think is significant about who did the bombing yesterday? i understand you're curious about who didn't do the bombing. >> who didn't do the bombing was our closest ally, the u.k. i'm worried why they didn't show up. we've got real sunni-shia issues that need to be addressed. i think we have to look at this as a regional problem, but we have to look at what's next. okay. we've hit them in the nose. we're going to continue to hit them in the nose. how do we do two critical things: prosecuting this ground war, the so-called militia we're trainhlg won't be ready for ten months to a year. we've got to doing now to start pushing them back and take care of the refugees. secondly, as bing said, you've got the sunni shia thing, hezbollah issue, this quiet off to the side thing that will raise its ugly head if we don't manage it properly. we have to get our head around the fact we're at war and do this smartly. i think we need to look at a long-term treaty organization, much like nato, to bring these folks together so we don't have to go back every ten years and do this over and over again. >> general, there is possibly a reason is you want day one to have a sunni presence and they want to say, there goes the western powers looking to inflict their will on the muslims. >> that's correct. i think as tony and bing have articulated -- >> by the way, tony blair is up. he's in the green room and will be up next. go ahead. >> that's important to get his take as well. but it's important that the american people understand that we're in this for the long haul. we've kicked off a significant air campaign in this case, but again, over the next few weeks and months that we need to pursue isis so they do not have sanctuary in iraq and syria. the other aspect of this is the fact that we've joined in with coalition partners, particularly from the arab world i think is significant. and i think that we ought to look at the long ball of this versus a short-term gain. >> absolutely. here is the thing, without i understand you're the expert, without special forces on the ground guiding in the missile strikes and radiating and highlighting targets, we're using hell fire missile. >> right now we're using precision guided munitions as john kirby said at the top of the discussion. the fact that 99% of these weapons have been precision guided. these are targets that are out in the open, that are certainly targets that the centcom planners have been focused on for the last few weeks and months. once again, the campaign expands itself, we ought not to limit ourselves in terms of what capability the united states has, be it irrelevant power, ground and other tools. >> bing, the other thing you have is a refugee problem. 130,000 forced from syria into turkey where maybe turkey isn't so welcoming. did we have a role in making sure those people have something to eat? >> positively, brian. we do have a larger issue with turkey that i hope we straighten out over timgoing to help the refugees. i think it is, however, also terrific that you're having tony blair on your show because he has been the only western voice to try to unify our people in a war and now we have a president ironically, who for the next two years is going to be a war-time president. that helps the democrats, but is he going to unite all of us behind a war? >> and also how aggressive is he going to be? is the military going to get the cart blanch to do what it takes or is the president going to put a governor on them? >> so far so good. joan austin is very competent. he's great general of the i worked for him in afghanistan. he's got his act together. the question now becomes can he effectively use air to stop isis quickly to do what bing just talked about, support getting the refugees protected, helping get food into them, and then we need to do something on the ground now. you point out the special operations guys, they're already there, doing good stuff. but we need to do more. i think we got to arm some of these refugee, send them back in. they don't want to be refugees. they want to go home. this is an option we haven't looked at seriously, arming them to go home and stir up trouble and start pushing back now. not later. >> and meaning now, there has got to be more today, tomorrow and the next day. and let isis know their time is over. general, colonel, bing west, thanks so much. appreciate the discussion and hopefully we'll have more to talk about in the upcoming days. meanwhile, heather nauert has more news, including a bin laden relative going to jail? >> he faces life behind bars. bin laden's son-in-law is due in federal court right here in federal court to face charges that he helped terrorists kill americans. you can expect security around the courthouse to be at an all-time high later today. he was convicted in march for his role as an al-qaeda spokesman following the terrorist attacks on 9-11. brand-new details about the three afghan soldiers who went missing on american soil. they are now in custody after trying to cross into canada near niagara falls. they say they were looking for asylum. they were in the united states for training exercises at camp edward in massachusetts. then breaking news overseas. out of israel this morning, israeli special forces gunning down two hamas militants, accused of abducting and killing three israeli teen-agers. they were hiding out in two story building in the west bank. the attack on the teen-agers led to that 50-day war between israel and hamas in the gaza strip. and two decades after a study on white house fence jumpers that vulnerability remains today. the mock attack back in the '90s overwhelmed secret service agents with several people climbing over the fence at the same time and then of course just friday, a man jumps the fence and made it into the white house before agents took him into custody. and brand-new evidence this morning in the search for uva student hannah graham. sources confirm that police are now looking at fresh dirt on the tires of jesse matthew's car. they just removed several bags of evidence and a search of his apartment. matthew, a person of interest in her disappearance, is believed to be the last person who was seen with her before she vanished. those are your headlines. i'll see new a bit. >> thank you very much. our coverage on syria continues in just a moment. up next, the war on isis has come to our doorstep. the late breaking details on the isis fighters who are on american soil right now. >> we know about the arab countries helping the united states attack syria, but what about our european allies? 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>> joining us now is former prime minister of the u.k., tony blair. good morning. we are thrilled you're here with us this morning. >> thank you. >> the timing, fortunately or unfortunately, is perfect given all the events of last night. what was your reaction and were you surprised that the european nations are not part of those joining the united states in these air strikes? >> i hope they will come alongside the u.s. and it's very important we support america at this time. it's the right thing to take the action against isis. and you're going to have to hit them in syria 'cause that's where they built themselves and headquartered themselves. they came from syria into iraq, so you've got to take action against them there. look, i think there is a strong feeling in europe, too. the single biggest problem we have in security terms in the u.k. now are returning british fighters from syria, jihaddist fighters. >> for isis? >> yes. >> one of the rationales for going last night, overnight, was, according to the united states government, apparently we also, in addition to hitting isis, we hit the khorasan group, which was apparently ready to strike. they were in the execution phase, the final stages. they were either going to strike the united states somewhere or somewhere with our european allies. >> look in the last few weeks >> look in the last few weeks we've and if you look across the whole of the middle east, i mean, i would watch libya very, very carefully. you've got a bad situation in yemen. and in a inn that northern part of africa, right across that part of africa, you've got huge problems, bow boko haram. we're in for a long fight for a long period of time against radical islamism. >> turkey? >> do the british not understand that? where are your people on this, because i thought the polls after the beheading of one of your citizens was going to say okay, the u.s. will take the lead. we certainly have a formidable force to help out. >> a couple years ago the prime minister wants to make sure he has a vote this time. i think and believe britain will be there with the u.s. look, this is a big problem for us. so we've got to help shoulder the responsibility. >> and turkey's role in this as you see it? >> i think you guys are working on turkey in respect to this. they are very important. they've got a huge refugee problem now in turkey as a result of -- over 100,000 people in a few days coming over the border into turkey. we need turkey alongside us. >> sure. we were just talking about how it's going to be a long fight against extremism. did the united states blow it by pulling out pretty much completely from iraq? >> i think -- i went through all these decisions post-9-11, i know how tough they are. i think you've got to look -- this is going to last beyond this president, this prime minister. it's going to probably last beyond the next president and the next prime minister. and by the way, yesterday, very serious events in the northwest province of china where the muslim population is. you've got this in the far east, terrorists in thai thailand recently. i think you're in a long hard struggle over a long period of time and you've got to root out -- the real problem is the education systems in these countries that are educating young people. my foundation works to counter the extremism being taught in these types of places. this is the fundamental question and millions of kids are being taught this. >> mr. prime minister, had we left some sort of a residual force in iraq, maybe it wouldn't have turned out like this. >> we're going to carry on this debate. >> i know. >> as i say, i know -- >> you're not going to say it was a mistake? >> i'm not gog criticize those people in the position of leadership because i know i got a lot of criticism myself for the decisions i took. now what is important is you are building an alliance that's going to include the arab nations. they know it's their fight as well as ours and that's a big change. >> what are your words for our president moving into the next two years looking at war time president? we just heard rear admiral kirby saying we are definitely at war. moving forward in a leadership role in terms of sustaining force against isis and defeating them what, is your wisdom that you can share? >> i think there are two things you need to do. you need to build an alliance that deals with not just isis, but all these other groups as well, because by the way, if you get isis displaced in syria, they may move into libya and they could cause huge problems there as well. boko haram in nigeria, they are getting financed and funded as a result of what's coming down from libya. so that's the first thing. look at it as one large problem. build an alliance to try and defeat it. secondly, focus on these education systems. if you've got millions of young kids being taught nothing but the koran from early in the morning until late in the afternoon every day, day in, day out, you are going to incubate some of this terrorism. >> it starts, i understand, you tell me if this is your expertise -- in saudi arabia, who is now helping us with air strikes against some of the people who gave them -- that give the foundation for their extreme beliefs. >> right. so over the past when there was a coincidence of this type of teaching with a lot of money from the oil, over the past a lot of this has been exported from the middle east. these countries in the far east didn't get this on their own account. they got it from the middle east. however, today the saudi leadership is actually trying to help fight this and we've got to work with them, work with other countries. look at pakistan. you got a situation where there are a million displaced in the last few weeks as the army battle these militants in the hill country of pakistan. so we need to be working with these countries now. >> it just blows me away that they look at us as the enemy when you have the enemy is beheading people and raping women and destroying lives. >> one of the things we've got to understand is we're not creating this. there has been a feeling of us, maybe we provoked these people to be like this. we're not. by the way, their enemy is not just us. it's anyone within islam who disagrees with them. so this is about modernity and moderation versus extremism and a kind of reactionary that wants to return the world to the dark ages. >> can you equal it a regional issue anymore, because of their outrage, doesn't seem so regional if this is so ideological. >> it's global. absolutely global. >> that's why you've got a center that studies extremism around the world. tony blair, perfect guest to have today. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> sometimes i hope -- some day i hope you have nothing to study. >> that's what we're working for. >> ten minutes before the top of the hour. our coverage continues in just a minute. up next, the war on isis is at our doorstep. late breaking details on the isis killers who are on american soil right now can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. new fiber one streusel. ♪ [music] jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. a fox news alert now. the enemy is among us as the united states launches attacks on isis -- against isis in syria, the white house confirms american fighters for the terror group are already here on u.s. soil. what can we expect from those jihad joes? joining us is former senior policy advisor to the house committee. thank you for joining us this morning. expected 100 americans fighting for isis here. break this down for us. how serious is this? what is being done to locate and track these individuals? >> well, first of all, i think it's important that we have this discussion. this is not a fear mongering discussion. this is an adult discussion we need to have 'cause this threat here to the homeland is real and the governments, the administration revealing about 100 people have tried to or have come back from fighting with isis. that's what they know. there is a big chunk of this that theydon't know. unfortunately, the administration is really late to the game here. so they're trying to play catch up to a group that is fundamentally intelligent. they have real intentions to attack the homeland. we've seen in both europe and in australia they're planning there. so they're using americans, what i would consider traitors, to infiltrate the united states and carry out attacks here and this is a real threat to the homeland. >> what can you specifically tell us? there is reports as many as 40 have returned to the united states after fighting for isis overseas. >> elisabeth, my sources are telling me that there are tens of these fighters in boston alone. so we really have to understand that these isis fighters have come back to the united states. they are all over the country and we really have to be diligent here. the f.b.i., who they know, the f.b.i. is very skilled at making sure that the people that they know about are monitored and aren't going to carry out an attack. it's the ones that we don't know that really cause me angst. >> those lone wolf threats that really don't have the ability to track. >> eight of the bombs, stopping a plot in its tracks. this a veteran group known as khorasan. can you explain to us exactly what they mean, what their significance is and what it means that this attack was stopped? >> so i think khorasan group, first of all, i'm very disappointed that the administration has chosen to reveal some really sensitive intelligence here. they've really revealed their hand. there was no reason whatsoever to reveal this group, nor to even say we attacked them last night. that would really is going to degrade our intelligence capability and degrade our ability to really thwart plots against the homeland that they're going to carry out. >> joshua, thank you for that insight this morning. charles krauthammer, laura ingraham next eful has wholesome grains,real beef,even accents of spinach,carrots and peas. 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>> i think we're in for a long, hard fight over a long period of time against this radical islamism and we need a strategy that puts everything together. >> he's right about that. more from the former prime minister, tony blair, who was just on the curvy couch about five minutes ago. here is what the top guy at the pentagon just said. >> we are definitely at war with isil and the same way we're at war with al-qaeda. >> wow. game on. charles krauthammer is here. he'll tell us what the president should say later this morning because mornings are better with friends and we start right now. we're getting right to that fox news alert for you. overnight, the u.s. and arab allies launching a barrage of strikes on isis militants in syria. rear admiral john kirby saying this: we are at war. doug mcleway is live at the white house where the president is expected to speak this morning in just about an hour. good morning to you, doug. what can you tell us? >> reporter: this is a significant attack in its size and its scope. the president answering many of his critics with a multi-pronged attack which for the first time included attacks inside the borders of syria. the u.s. military employed an array of weapons, including 47 tomahawk attack missiles launched from the red sea and also from the uss philippine sea, a cruiser in the north arabian gulf, as well as from remotely piloted aircraft, bombers and fighter planes. there were a total of 14 strikes in all using roughly 100 precision-guided weapons. play ago supporting role were several members of the international coalition, including sunni arab states, bahrain, jordan, saudi arabia, the united arab emirates and qatar. here is general jack keane talking about the significance of that. >> it's very significant that we have four arab muslim countries, all sunni-based countries attacking a sunni-based terrorist organization. that did not come easy. many of these were urging the united states to do something about assad before. but now this is isis. so it is significant, in my judgment. >> reporter: centcom is reporting that several targets were destroyed or damaged around the isis stronghold, including isis fighters. also training compounds, headquarters, command and control facilities, storage facilities, finance center supply trucks and many armed vehicles. separately, centcom is reporting the united states also undertook eight attacks against this newly emerging terrorist threat called the khorasan group which many people believe is now emerging to be a greater threat to the u.s. homeland than either al-qaeda or isis. president obama made calls to congressional leaders last night in advance of these attacks. reaction just beginning to come in. we've heard from buck mckeon who said that this is one step in what will be a long fight against isil. senator marco rubio saying that i support the president's actions. we expect to hear a lot of that kind of thing in the hours to come. back to you in new york. >> allall right. doug mckelway. also apparently the bomb damage assessment team is realizing that while they did blow up a lot of buildings over there as they try to figure out who exactly they killed, now that the top tier of the isis hierarchy has seen what we're going to do, they've gone to ground and they will be tougher to find. >> right. the one thing they did do is paint a major building black so we can look for that one. let's see if they continue with that strategy. laura ingraham is here with the breaking news. what's your reaction to the beginning of this syrian/iraqi campaign? >> well, yesterday early in the morning, the la times reported that general dempsey told reporters traveling in europe that the president was waiting on the campaign until it became clearer what our arab allies were actually doing for the coalition. so it was interesting that indeed the air strikes began within about 15 hours of those comments. so the president, did he get more clarity from the arab allies? he obviously knows what they're doing. unfortunately for the american people, we're not sure what they're doing. i'd like to know what the saudi arabia, which has a history of funding terrorism. i'd like to know what they're doing and qatar is doing. they have disturbing ties to terrorist organizations. so i think the american people at some point are going to say, okay. we were in favor going in with air strikes. we want our soldiers to win wherever they are. but is this just all going to be on the backs of the american taxpayers? as you said, what we actually destroying on the ground? do we know -- is it children, women, or are we getting all the bad guys and that's all the bad guys? these are questions that we're going to have to answer. but the excitement of getting these guys and i want all of them dead, we have to understand that in the beginning of the iraq war, everybody was like, let's go in, let's get them, let's do it! then as time goes on, we're kind of there with canada and britain and a few other countries. the taxpayer still paying that off. >> well, it's interesting because they were able to assemble at least five arab nations to take part in the activities. >> what does that mean? >> i don't know. the country of qatar apparently would not be involved in the direct air strikes, but they did offer up a plane that flew around somewhere. we don't know exactly where. >> oh, okay. >> but what's curious, though, is our long-time ally -- last week the president mentioned yeah, france is part of the team. well, where was the united kingdom last night? they were not part of the coalition. we just had tony blair here and he said heç hopes that the european allies do step up pretty quickly. one of his worries, and i'm going to play the sound bite for you right now -- is how he's worried that isis or isil is headed to the u.k. >> i hope they will come alongside the u.s., it's very important we support america at this time. it's absolutely the right thing to take the action against isis and you're going to have to hit them in syria 'cause that's where they've built themselves and headquartered themselves and they came from syria into iraq. so you've got to take action against them there and look, i think there is a very strong feeling in europe, too. the single biggest problem we have in security terms in the u.k. now are returning british fighters from syria, jihaddist fighters. >> okay. so it's a big problem. so where was the u.k. with us yesterday? >> well, i think cameron understands that going back into iraq or syria, it's not popular in britain. tony blair, it's interesting to see him there today. remember when he left office, there was enormous amount of discontent throughout the u.k. about this long slog in iraq. i don't want to rain on everybody's parade, but what's happening in britain is that the people are saying, look, we wish them well, but we're kind of all tapped out. we just dealt with a cessesionist movement, focus on homeland, focus on jobs. they're going up like this versus the conservative party and the live downs and labor party. so i'd say where is u.k.? where is germany? germany's economy is humming. >> at least the germans are arming the kurds. they are doing things economically. we took their military away after world war ii. but. >> they have a lot of money. >> the u.k. has five times the amount of isis guys serving over there, chopping off the heads of our guys and their guys. how could they not see this? >> i think they do see it, brian. i think, though, as we see here with the polls about a long-term war, a long-term commitment, public here, the reuters poll came out a couple weeks ago, public doesn't want any long-term commitment. i think in britain, they're really concerned about the returning jihadis, concerned about what's happening to britain's culture. they're very worried about it. they want the home front secured. i think a long-term commitment in iraq or syria -- i don't see the support for it in britain. i guess you can still go in and do it. but that means what at home? that means political upheaval at home. that means the whole thing is up in the air. so i understand the frustration, but you also have to understand the frustration of the working class people in britain ho are kind of like, my life is getting worse every year. not better. >> that's a great point. we keep hearing broad coalition, we need a sustainable coalition moving forward. speak of sustainable, the president is supposed to speak today on climate change. will he give that the boot and speak more on this? also what do you expect that he will say at the white house? >> i think it will be more of the general comments about isis being a threat to the global community and global norms and international values. i think we're going to hear a very broad statement about that and boast about the coalition. i hope all those liberals who were ridiculing george w. bush who put together 40 countries going into iraq, i hope they're all going to have the same attitude about the ill-defined contributions from the arab states. i mean, he's going in with a coalition, what kind of coalition is it? i believe in his heart of hearts, president obama does see climate change as a bigger threat than isis. >> that's what john kerry said. >> yeah. exist essential threat, right? >> ed henry came by and said that the president still going to talk about climate change at the united nations today. however, before he leaves the white house, he's going to be talking about what we did overnight. meanwhile, we had rear admiral kirby with us earlier and he made it very clear, even though this administration has gotten hung up on semantics, it's very clear we are finally at war. here is the admiral. >> is it official now? we're at war with isis? >> we've actually been saying that for quite some time. in fact, i said that about a week or so ago. we're definitely at war with isil and the same way we're at war with al-qaeda. >> that's good news. now that they're saying it that way. >> don't you guys get the sense that the defense department, the entire pentagon is like, we're just tired of dealing with this. we have a job to do. we're going to do our jobs. we have to deal with these messengers over at the white house who are worried about the political perception here at home. i was half expecting the administration to say, well, we're going -- like with executive amnesty, we're going to put this off, whether it's a war or not, until after the election. we'll determine it until after the election in the lame duck session. until then, the jury is out on whether this is a war. all i'll say about the war thing is it will feel like a war, regardless of whether they call it. after the bills come due. right now we're not talking republicans, democrats, really how much money this is all costing. but we the people will feel that. that's going to hurt. >> the question is, if a city starts blowing up here, if we ignore over there and things start blowing up here, how much will it cost after that? that's the true conversation. >> you're making the art for shutting the border down and implementing the 9-11 commission's recommendations which for some reason, we haven't done as bill o'reilly pointed out. so we haven't done any of that. so we're going to fight a war over there. okay. but are we going to do anything to the home front? a guy can sprint across the white house lawn and get into the front door and yet we're like, it's really dangerous here. no kidding. >> don't worry, we're going to lock the door from now on. >> to put a period on this, we're so thankful to why you here. when we allow our military men and women to do what they do best, they are ultimately successful. thtional job starting this last night. we expect that to continue. i think they just want to do what they do well without political usurpion. >> have a great day. >> thank you. the white house is going to lock their door, but not the southern border. >> yes. >> why not? >> can they do both? , our coverage continues. meanwhile, the big question, will isis really tool crate on american soil? 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>> i think that you have to recognize that the f.b.i., the c.i.a., these other organizations are working together to try to blunt this. we have to work with our foreign partners to block them from coming into the united states. everyone in the united states has to recognize, we're at war right now. if you see something, say something. frequently if there is an entwhistle incident or attack in the united states, it's the average police officer on the ground that's the first responder or the first person that sees something. everyone has to recognize, we're at war. you see something, say something. we're all collectively responsible for our own security in the united states. >> 14 strikes inside syria. nine strikes on khorasan in particular. that was just us. first on khorasan, we understand they're the elite al-qaeda group. they're the veterans of al-qaeda and they specialize in bomb making. nonmetallic bombs that go through airports, perhaps, if they have the technology, they say they do. and we acted because of an imminent threat. your reaction? >> i'm less concerned with them -- of course, we're going to defend our airports and use everything possible to stop them from carrying devices in,÷&z but they can enter the united states without anything and if they've been trained properly, they can construct things in the united states. we've got to stop them from getting in. we go back to the same basic premise. close that southern border. i'm comfortable with what our people do at tsa and airport security. we got to close that southern border and we have to recognize that this is a fight that we are in as a nation. this is not just the u.s. military. this is a terrorist -- these are terrorist organizations that have highly trained people, they're very, very committed to what they're doing. the u.s. military, homeland security, the f.b.i., local police, everybody has to recognize we're at war right now. when you see this on television and looks like some video game in the distance, it's not at a distance. it's real. we're all in this together. >> right. you're a guy that's been on the ground and you also have a son in the fight. gary, i got to ask you about the arab nations involved. i know that's what you were calling for and you have bahrain in there. you have uae in there. you have qatar having support flights, whatever that means. and saudi arabia. who is not there? >> first off, the president and the administration should be complimented for getting the sunni countries in there. >> absolutely. >> we don't have the turks or kwaitis in yet. the kuwait has large bases. then you have across the border, which would be very useful. finally egyptians. i know there is not 40 countries in this, but we have the right countries in and around this, sunni countries. what this does is blunts people, like the religious imam for all of the muslim brotherhood. he is a huge voice and he stated this is a u.s. war on islam. but it's not a war on islam. there are sunni muslims fighting these guys. so this is a good start here in the coalition. we're just going to have to see what kind of ground game is put together. >> all right. keep your phone handy. thanks so much. >> pleasure. ten minutes before the bottom of the hour. in less than two hours, president obama set to address the nation on air strikes in isis took place last night in syria. so what do you want him to say? 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>> well, we are still looking for jesse matthew. there are two misdemeanor reckless driving warrants for him. he has not been seen, that we know of, since sunday. we have not heard from him nor have any communication about his whereabouts. we are searching for him. >> okay. there was some crazy stuff that happened over the weekend. it's great that we've got you as a live guest that i can ask you about this. he came into the police station and said, you were looking for me, right? then he asked for an attorney. and you gave him a list of attorneys. then there was some conversation. what, did he hire one of the attorneys? >> he gave us a list of attorneys he would like us to contact. we contacted the first one on the list. that person agreed to come in. that attorney and mr. matthew spoke for an extended period of time. then they indicated they were leaving and they were gone. >> okay. so he decided he was not going to cooperate with the police. he would not allow you to interview him right then. he took off with his mom. >> when he came in -- he came in with his mother and his uncle. they left and went to his grandmother's house. >> okay. we pick up the story there. so he is at the grandmother's housement there are several law enforcement vehicles outside of the house clearly in view. then he decides to do what? >> there were two vehicles outside. there were two f.b.i. agents and two state police in unmarked cars. they were surveilling him, not hiding. he came out. he obviously saw them. he and his mother got into a car, him driving. he took off. was driving so wrecklessly that the agents determined it was too dangerous for everyone in the area, so they backed off. >> that certainly leaves one with the impression that he would have something to hide. >> well, we can infer into that what we want to, but obviously doesn't look good, it doesn't sound good. we think the same thing certainly. >> all right. i understand in the last day or so you have executed a second search warrant. you went through his apartment. can you give us the nature of what you found there? >> well, through our investigation, we determined there was some items we needed to look for. we hoped they were in his apartment. we executed that second search warrant. we found the items we were looking for, but i can't go into what they were. however, those items will be taken to our state lab this morning. >> also, one of the main pieces of evidence that you've got in this search for this person of interest, mr. matthew, is his vehicle. you've still got his vehicle and there it is right there. we have a source who said earlier that one of the pieces of evidence that you were particularly interested in was regarding that car right there, fresh dirt found on the tires, fresh dirt inside the vehicle. >> well, we're looking at anything that may be in or on that vehicle that may help us determine where that vehicle was a weekend ago, that friday night a week ago. >> i know that the chief had said the other day for land owners and property owners, be on the lookout for fresh tire tracks on your property. >> that's correct, yes, sir. >> all right. good luck to you. >> thank you very much. >> we're certainly hoping for the best. captain gary pleasants joining us from charlottesville. by way, if you have any information about the missing person there, please call the police department now. their phone line is 434-295- 434-295-3851. it is now 28 minutes after the top of the hour. we still have a lot of show left to go and a lot of breaking news to get to. who better to run it down with than charles krauthammer? 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>> yes. look, we had essentially three nations in the air with us. that's egypt and jordan and the uae. the uae was in libya, so that's a continuation of a very strong alliance. the other two countries, one being qatar, the other being bahrain, i don't believe they were in the air with us. they offered us their facilities, qatar has a great air base. we don't talk about it a lot. and the bahrain is where we have the fleet where we had all the tomahawks coming from ships. so that's sort of part of the alliance. but what's missing here of course is europe. no europeans. i guess some of them, british, for example, with the iraq war with had we sort of lost their support and domestic support and they were left hanging and their politicians were badly hurt. but the big glaring absence is turkey. >> yes. >> it's right on the border of syria. it's a nato country. they have an interest in stopping isis. but they've been in a double game. they've allowed a lot of isis fighters to come in turkey has an islamist government, moderate if you like. but they support the brotherhood and egypt and hamas. so they're a little bit on the fence. that's a really, a huge loss for us and not having them. >> it could be a difference maker for sure with the forces that they have. >> yes. >> reportedly they are purchasing black market oil from isis as well. >> right. >> you wrote this days ago, quote, isis was fully aware of the consequence of their beheadings. it was an easily sprung trap to provoke america into entering the war. you say? >> you can explain what they did in two ways. one, they're not as savvy western oriented as we think. they didn't quite understand the effect that the beheadings on television would have on the u.s. and they're surprised by our reaction. i tend to support the other theory, they knew exactly what they're doing. they wanted to bring the u.s. in. they think in the end, like everywhere, we will tire and they also are -- they're mainly right now in intramural competition with the other jihaddists and the world. they want to be the new al-qaeda. they want to supersede everybody. they want to be the one true crusade against the west, if you like. by taking on america, you rise to our stature. i think that was behind the beheadings. i think they're bringing us in was intend. >> so they anticipated air strikes, is what you continue to say in that piece. i guess bottom line is, where are we going from here? our military has done a remarkable job. last night, remarkable get not guilty there and getting this job done. moving forward in terms of training those that will join us to be on the ground as we have said time and time again that we will not. where do we go from here and can a victory be achieved without our own boots on the ground? >> i think we can achieve a half victory for very persistent and determined and that is in iraq because in iraq, we have the kurds on the ground. there are some iraqi troops who can fight and we do have the sunni tribes who, during the surge in 07 and 08, joined us against al-qaeda and we won. if we can succeed in enlisting them on the ground, we win. so i see it as quite possible that we can expel isis from iraq. but in syria, there is nobody on the ground. the best case scenario is that if we train and arm syrian rebels now, the so-called moderates, what's left of the free syrian army, it would take a year to get them in the field. so we'd have a year of air strikes and then we'd be able to feel -- 'cause if you don't have somebody on the ground, who is going to take over their territory? the bad guys. so that's the dilemma. i can see us containing isis, but right now i can't see us achieving the goal the president has enunciated to degrade and to defeat. that, i don't see. >> you mentioned turkey. we had admiral kirby on earlier today. i want to play you what he said about their role. >> well, turkey was not a participant last night, as you know. i won't speak for another government and what they're willing to do or not do. this is a key nato ally, a partner in the region. they actually have borders with both countries, iraq and syria. they have a refugee issue that they're dealing with. so they are, just at this their geography, they'll be a partner here, they'll be a coalition number. they've indicated they want to participate. but we're leaving it up to each nation. >> sounds hopeful. >> well, if you're depending on geography as the factor that will make them join the alliance, that's a bit of a stretch. you have to depend on their national interest, on their sympathy, on their intent to go after isis the way that we do. i'm right now not convinced. i understand why admiral kirby would say that. if you're trying to enlist an ally, you don't want to insult them in public. but i think they are sorely disappointed. there is a hope that in time they might join us if isis becomes a threat to them, but for now, as i said, they like to play this double game because the government is extremely islamist, pro-muslim brotherhood, pro-hamas and sometimes supporting these radical islamists. so we'll wait and see. if we can enlist turkey, that will be a master stroke. >> speaking of someone else ho is not joining us in the fight as of yet, prime minister tony blair said this. >> this is going to last beyond this president, this prime minister, it's going to probably last beyond the next president and the next prime minister. long, hard struggle over a long period of time and you've got to root out, by the way, the real problem is the education systems in these countries that are educating young people, millions of young kids being taught nothing but the koran from early in the morning until late in the afternoon, every day, day in, day out, you're going to incubate some of this extremism. >> so pointing this to this ongoing threat, i'll ask you this: we keep hearing this is a regional war. it has to be taken care of within the region. when you're talking about isis, this is an ideological mission. is that extinct? this seems global. >> it is global and whack a mole. you whack them in one place, afghanistan, they pop up, say, in syria and iraq. you whack them in one place, say in libya and they show up in mali. the prime minister is correct. this is an ideological war. it's world wide. but the thing he stresses and that our president will never say is to use the word islamic. he speaks of them as extremists, as if they're extremeism falls out of the sky. this is extremism of a particular kind and the reason it's a powerful one and a global one is because it's rooted in a religion of a billion people. of course the majority reject the radical islam. but because it's so rooted in a world wide religion, it has a history, it has roots, it has the madrasis all around the world, and unless you identify if and you try in the end to rally the moderate muslims against radicals, we will never win. we might be able to suppress this to make it less of a threat so it is an imminent threat to our home land and to our allies, but in the end it is a fight against a wing -- we don't know how large -- of a great religion and unless we recognize that, we don't know who we're fighting and we need a president willing to admit that in public. look, even the islamic state itself calls itself islamic. and obama won't. >> i want to shift to politics here. as you just brought us there, charles, do we have a president now that is willing to listen to his generals? we've had countless generals and advisors come forward saying we're putting ideas there. they're not being received. the political advisors are the ones who have the weight and pull with our president. do you believe he's turned the page and we're in a new chapter in terms of listening and leaning on the wisdom of his military leaders? >> i think right now i give him the benefit of the doubt. what you're saying is absolutely true of afghanistan. he order the surge, but he did not give the generals the numbers or the time they needed and begged for. he was advised by the military to lead a re-- leave a residual force in iraq. he left nothing and in the vacuum we know what's happened. in libya he led from behind. he didn't do anything. we know what happened after that. we've been expelled from libya. our embassy now is in the hands of in tripoli, in the hands of islamics who like swimming in our pool. i think this time after six years, he may have learned his lesson. i think he's going to allow the generals to do what they have to do and we'll see. although ruling out ground troops in advance was very ill-advised, very political. you can have that in your head, you can decide you don't want to do it, but the president has to stop telling the other guys what we're going to do. you can decide it on your own, but don't broadcast it, for god's sake. >> charles, we thank you for joining us here today. >> pleasure. >> things that matter, fantastic read. should be in every home. i know it's in millions so far. it's right there for you all. charles krauthammer. thanks. coming up, as you just heard, the president will address the nation about syria and then he'll address the world about climate change, of course. we are live at the united nations to break that down for you. and an arab bank just found liable for 24 terrorist attacks that left the united states citizens dead. the verdict is historic and now the same could be happening to isis perhaps. that is next know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. ♪ who's going to do it? 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fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr.? >> yes. and big, bigzq: time. that's a verdict in the eastern district federal court in brooklyn, new york, where court has ruled that yes, the arab bank was liable for the death of 300 people being the approximate cause in terms of their funding habits of hamas terrorists. so now we know in the united states there is a new group that's being formed called the counter extremism project. they're on line. they're a 501 c 3, they're raising money to spread the word about extremist organization. they're collecting money and fighting back as americans. it's a combination of democrats and republicans who served in government, former ambassador ross to israel, former ambassador to the united nations, senator joe lieberman, coming together to say we will raise money and do our part as americans to put pressure on financial institutions that are doing business with isis around the world and stop them in the way that we can as independent free american. >> do you think part of it is frustration? people are frustrated that until the last 12 hours, the government really hadn't done a lot? >> people are absolutely frustrated and say we need to do what we can do as americans, whether it's looking out for folks who have come back from syria to tell the f.b.i., to say these people are providing material support to terrorism. there are tools. we've seen that in the federal court. there will be a damages trial. but there is also moral swasion and constant vigilance. they're raising money as a charity and they're saying, we want to do our part to help the c.i.a., to help the department of defense, to help our troops collect information about what isis and others are doing on line and stop it cold and stop it dead. so i think people are encouraged by what's happening in syria today that the president is stepping up finally, but they're saying, listen, we can do our part as americans, not as american soldiers, but as american civilians andwe're doi. we're doing it on line and raising money and standing up for america and i think that's great. >> i do, too. something we hadn't heard about. peter johnson, jr., thank you very much. >> good to see you. it's now about 11 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up in one hour, the president's going to address the nation from the white house about syria and then he's going to address the world on climate change. we're live at the united nations to break it all down. first let's check to find out what's happening in ten minutes with martha mccallum. >> busy morning. air strikes hit isis and khorasan, got a great team to talk about the breaking news and what's being called an imminent threat to the united states here at home. general jack keane, rudy guiliani, both join us. and the president will make a live statement. this will be his first since this campaign got underway. we will hear from the president live here this morning in "america's newsroom." bill and i will see you at the top of the hour. fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use everyone is looking for ways while to cut expenses.s unique, and that's where pg&e's online business energy checkup tool can really help. you can use it to track your actual energy use. find rebates that make equipment upgrades more affordable. even develop a customized energy plan for your company. think of it as a way to take more control over your operating costs. and yet another energy saving opportunity from pg&e. find new ways to save energy and money with pg&e's business energy check-up. iwith something terrible to admit. i treated thousands of patients, risked their lives, while high on prescription drugs. i was an addict. i'm recovered now, but an estimated 500,000 medical professionals are still out there, abusing drugs or alcohol. police, airline pilots, bus drivers... they're randomly tested for drugs and alcohol... but not us doctors. you can change that: vote yes on proposition 46. your lives are in our hands. a fox news alert. in just one hour, the president will address the nation about the air strikes in syria and then address the world about climate change. eric shaun joins us live from the united nations to break down his schedule today. thank you for joining us. what can you tell us this morning? >> reporter: there will be a very busy day here at the united nations after the president speaks from the white house in just over an hour from now. he will arrive here in new york this afternoon to address the climate change summit. of course this morning, all eyes and the focus here at the world body on the unprecedented american air strikes with the five arab allies last night on syria. we are now waiting to hear reaction from russia. as you may know, russia called the potential of the type of attacks an act of aggression. the foreign minister expected to arrive here at the united nations later on today. russia had called the potential a violation of international law. also waiting for reaction from syria. syria being a sovereign nation. the assad regime had demanded the u.s. coordinate such air strikes with them. that clearly did not happen. we'll see if there is some type of diplomatic protest or a demand by russia or syria for an emergency security council meeting on our air strikes last night. we'll see how that develops later on this morning. the big news after the president addresses the climate change today is what he will do tomorrow. chairing the meeting on isis and on islamic jihad fighters, an family to try and choke off the financing of the islamic state, choke off the foreign fighters who have traveled to syria and to iraq, the estimated 15,000 citizens of other countries who have now joined the islamic jihad of this terrorist group. the resolution in its draft form is expected to pass. it has been written in a very broad type of language to do that. that is expected tomorrow. the u.s. is the president this month of the security council. clearly, elisabeth, we have entered with last night's air strikes a new era in the fight against radical islamic jihad, the challenge of our time. back to you. >> well said. thank you for joining us live from the u.n. it's now about 4 1/2 minutes before the top of the hour. still coming up, more breaking news on deck. we're going to run down all of the very latest developments from syria to iraq, to right here on american soil. you're watching "fox & friends," america on the attack [music] ♪ jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. you're thinking beneful. 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>> patrick says it's truly up to them. is it wrong? yes, but it's a free country. thanks to everyone who responded. have a great wednesday. see you back here tomorrow morning on thursday. >> "fox & friends" starts now. bye. good morning. it is wednesday, august 13. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. while you were sleeping hillary clinton called the white house to apologize for throwing the president's foreign policy under the bus. but can she have it both ways and could this hurt her more than it will help? >> riots continue to rage in st. louis, and now good thing al sharpton on the scene. >> we want real peace. we don't want to be told to shut up and suffer in silence. >> since when does real peace involve looting and violence? >> doesn't he have a show to do? left wingers failing to find the humor in this one. >> i think obama understands people's concerns after spending the day at the beach he said this has been fun but i should really get back to the golf course. because priorities are priorities. >> believe it or not, this backlash about funny man fallon trying to do what everyone does on the tonight show and that is mock whoever is in the white house. we'll discuss it. mornings are better with friends. >> hey there. this is kelly pickler. you're watching "fox & friends." >> welcome back. eric is filling in for steve today. >> a lot of news this morning. >> that was a funny joke. >> of course it was funny. >> that's what late-night comedians do. they make fun of the president whoever he or she may be. >> as long as they are safe to do so. we're going to talk about that as well. >> could you tell eric to scoot offense a -- scoot over a little. >> i am pretty far away. >> we straddle the crack here on "fox & friends." >> i'm thinking this is good. >> a little tight. >> we have a lot to discuss today because hillary clinton and president obama are going to a party. >> they are? it could get a little awkward because of a phone call and a tweet and a little slam. we're going to explain all of that this morning. first to heather nauert. a lot has been happening overnight. >> they might squeeze right m and sit as close as you guys. let's start off talking about politics today and key primary races taking place. we've got the results. all eyes on the state of minnesota. political newcomer mike mcfadden will take on senator al franken after winning the republican primary. >> i'm so honored to have won the primary. i can tell you we did it without saying one bad word about another republican. period. we immediate to unify our party -- wree need to unify our party. >> another key race tom emmer beating out the commissioner and county commissioner jeff johnson wins primary for governor beating three major rivals. he'll face the democratic governor in november. we'll keep watching these races. >> a storm sliding across the country and this morning leaving two people dead. we start in arizona with this dramatic video. a man sitting on top of his car forced to jump on to a fire truck to get out safely. look at this video out of detroit. that is a forklift. it had to drag cars out of the water one by one.ing in thee of that. in some places the water was 14 feet deep. heading over to detroit, a scuba diver swimming through the flood waters to see if anyone else is trapped there. finally in pennsylvania, the heavy rain there opening up this massive sink hole that swallowed a car. we had a lot of rain overnight here in the new york area. in the west coast tragic details about the death of robin williams. investigators confirming he hanged himself with a belt while his wife slept in a separate bedroom. she says she last saw him alive sunday night. she left the house the next morning thinking he was still asleep but his assistant found him before noon with a pocketknife near his body and cuts on his wrist. no words yet for plans for a memorial service. >> another hollywood legend has died. leading lady lauren bacall. >> you know how to whistle. put your lips together and blow. >> what a voice and what a face. that is a scene from the 1944 film "to have and have not." it is one of the most iconic moments in movie history. the model turned actress would eventually marry her costar humphrey bogart. she appeared in 60 movies. lauren bacall died of a stroke. she was 89 years old. what a remarkable career that lady has. >> at 19 she was discovered. humphrey bogart was 43, she was 19 and they ended up going out and it was no scandal. it was such a good idea to shoot those movies in black and white. it enhanced the drama. >> do you think hillary clinton used that voice yesterday when she called the white house? i think that might have helped with the i'm sorry because that is what she was calling to say. she called president obama to apologize for calling him out on his foreign policy. but this came after she was actually attacked by david axle rod who stepped in to may defense for the president, throwing her support for the iraq war right back at her. this was david axlerod's tweet to hillary clinton. >> just to clarify, don't do stupid stuff means stuff like occupying iraq in the first place which was a tragically bad decision. to put that in context, one of the things hillary clinton said, don't do stupid stuff, is really not a policy. >> which she said in the atlantic, an 8,000-word interview. >> as maureen dowd points out today in "the new york times," it is the economy stupid probably is not a great policy either, but bill clinton used that very successfully. >> here's the summary of the whole thing. hillary clinton was secretary of state from 2009 to 2013, the full first term of president obama, when president obama was developing these iraq strategies. remember he was elected on "i will get us out of iraq." that was his talking points, plug lines everywhere. he gets out, and during that time hillary clinton was secretary of state. don't you think at some point she would have said i disagree with this, this is the wrong strategy, we shouldn't be doing this? he gets out. isis blows up iraq. and hillary clinton now says that was no foreign policy. don't do stupid stuff. that was the wrong thing to do in iraq, that was the wrong thing to do in syria, down the line. >> it was confirmed last night she did say it. the reason why the president -- said it on a special report. the reason the president didn't implement it is because he didn't think it was a workable plan. i ask you this. we weren't there. if david petraeus is in the room, leon panetta is in the room and secretary of state all say we have to do something about this and we have to take action right away and actually arm these people that you call pharmacists and doctors who, by the way, they got word of that quote the president just said the other day, highly insulted and i believe we won the revolutionary war with a bunch of farmers and doctors. having said all that, the president didn't take the secretary of defense and the c.i.a. director and the secretary of state's advice. who was he listening to? >> we don't know. but the dance hillary clinton is doing as we approach 2016 might not work so well for her. karl rove puts it in historical perspective. >> in 1968 vice president hubert humphrey who disagreed with president johnson on the vietnam war, had difficulty breaking from the administration. he finally did in a speech in salt lake in october. by doing so, he neither placated the critics of president johnson's war policy nor kept the support of all of johnson's -- >> it's just the beginning. vernon jordan is having a party tonight and i guess the word is they're going to meet eat -- meet each other, be in the same room and hug it out. but hillary clinton could have probably said listen i don't want you to take it as criticism, but she's not going to get reelected if she doesn't distance herself from the foreign policy that 50% of the country think is terrible. >> and that she was largely a part of. >> true. but you have to take your orders from the president. secretary of state can't be like the president told me to do this; i'm going to do that. >> think of what she did. in order to distance herself from a president whose approval rating is sliding she went far right. she was looking for boots -- she went all in on all the wars. maybe she's getting a little backlash from her base. she's got a tightrope, a dance to do because now she doesn't want to be an obama foreign policy follower to that. yet she can't be so far right where her base goes are you kidding me? we don't like wars. she's between a barack and a hard place. >> isis even more powerful and more organized. if someone told any president that al qaeda had mastered a certain area, was worth now $100 billion and growing, had a lot of our equipment, what scenario and what president wouldn't hit them? everybody knows they're our enemy separate from what we're doing or not doing in iraq, ben rhodes on special report last night took that question. >> what has happened is we've donahue man tehran airdrops -- we've done humanitarian airdrops to reach the population, but we also need to figure out how to move that population to a safe space and get them humanitarian assistance. >> speaking about the christians under attack this and trying to decide what is going to happen. are we going to now put our forces in the face of isis in order to rescue those who are facing death over their faith. >> how do you get a bunch of people with nothing off a mountain? a former commander of the c.i.a. forces in afghanistan and in kabul stationed, he was one of the first into afghanistan right after the 9/11 attack, gary, welcome back. >> good morning. >> are you happy with the strategy so far? >> what strategy? >> okay. that's a no? >> let me say something about the statement that they talked about how do you get these people off of a mountain. people are forgetting that the israelis evacuated with the help of the u.s., the falashas in the sudan in the 1990's. you're going to need to put people on the ground, forces on the ground there. people may not want to enter there but the united states is a signatory to international conventions against general mow side. if we see genocide, we're required by law to act and this administration is looking the other way. >> why do we need to put troops on the ground? didn't the few air -- the humanitarian strikes and targeted airstrikes, didn't they push isis back? >> let me say something about why you want air. if you don't -- or why you want some people on the ground. you want people on the ground to do close air support. if you don't, you're likely to have collateral damage and kill innocent people at times. the reason we were very, very effective in afghanistan during the invasion with small numbers of people is we were lasing everything. >> what does that mean? >> if you're just bombing -- >> what does that mean? >> you light up a target. the ordinance is flown from an aircraft and it rides the light in. you can send something into a window. that's how exact it is. >> let me ask you this. to complicate things the director of the f.b.i. said now we have americans moving into syria to actually join this fighting and that they're absolutely almost impossible to identify. but we need to spend some time on the ground to help do that. take a listen. >> we at the f.b.i. and our partners are spending a tremendous amount of time trying to identify those who want to travel to syria to fight, who are there fighting and who may be coming back. but these are people who may not be directed by al qaeda or one of its progeny but who can be trained by what is on the internet. they can be in their pajamas listening that they've to kill innocent americans. >> some people are saying that's their problem, i'm war weary. what is your answer? >> we have a problem. isis presents a threat to the united states. they have capability, intent, and with american citizens fighting for them, they will have access to america. two or three weeks ago a young man from florida detonated himself in damascus, killing 14 people. they present a threat to the united states. we need to reexamine the process of visa waivers in the united states. we need to close the southern border. we really need leadership in the united states. and we're not getting it. >> are you saying our southern border could be the place that isis would enter the united states? >> if 13 and 14-year olds can walk across that border, members of isis can walk across easily as well. and will. and will. count on it. these guys are not stupid. they are committed. they're willing to commit, you know, suicide. many of them are suicide attackers. they see the united states as a, as an enemy. these are terrorists committed to creating a caliphate, and they have no boundaries. we've got them burying people alive, cruise foig people, beheading -- crucifying people, beheading people. what else do you need to see? this is like the 1930's where people are forgetting. >> i feel your intensity and your frustration because no one seems to be getting that message. a lot of people in this country are turned off by it and a lot of people in the white house don't seem to understand it. >> these are islamic fascists. >> thanks so much. >> pleasure to be with you. >> there are a lot of islamo fascists. do we wipe out all terrorists? that would be optimal but it's pie in the sky. you talk about north korea, talk about iran. there are a lot of places where islamo terrorists would be enemies to the united states. >> here's the thing. i think you need a master plan for north africa, for isis in particular, for what could be me tass -- metastidisiezing. >> you need a commander in chief who believes in the mission. >> you've got to have a mission. you've got to have a plan. >> he had a plan. we're out of here. >> right. coming up, exclusive video from the border you've never seen before. and no matter what you think about illegal immigration, the video paints one ugly picture. >> remember when president obama promised to get lobbyists out of the white house. >> we have the chance to go ahead and say the lobbyists in washington, your days of setting the agenda are over. >> this morning the president is changing his mind. why you should pay attention to this one. >> political experts say president -- hillary clinton is trying to distance herself in order to gear up for the election in 2016. look at this one. >> her discipline, stamina, thoughtfulness, ability to project i think has made her an extraordinary talent. she also already was a world figure. world figure. >> thank you very much. and with the quicksilver card from capital one, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase. not just "everything at the hardware store." not "everything, until you hit your cash back limit." quicksilver can earn you unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you could possibly imagine. say it with me -- everything. one more time, everything! and with that in mind... what's in your wallet? 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it couldn't move. this may surprise you but not our guest. he is a film maker focusing on illegals on our border. your reaction? >> i feel sorry for anybody in law enforcement. i speak to these guys on a regular basis. the morale has never been lower for these gentlemen and these ladies who are trying to protect our borders, protect our sovereignty. they are being told not to do their job. just remember, they're dealing with this from two perspectives. from a professional standpoint they are being told not to do what they signed up for and as an american because they understand illegal immigration is ripping this country apart slowly but surely and it is breaking their heart. >> here is your interview with the arizona sherrif blasting washington for leaving him naked in arizona. >> those making the decisions in washington, d.c., those making the decision of what happens on our southwest border are not here. they can walk across now and nobody would detect them. we have to catch these criminals. these people have no respect for our freedom, our liberty. i am very concerned. >> if you do catch them, they're allowed to get out and they have more rights than anyone could imagine. yet, that's what they do every day. the frustration is evident. >> there's two things i want to say about this. number one, all eyes are on texas. border patrol has been taken from arizona to put down in texas so this way we can catch families and children and change diapers. i would guarantee you, in fact, i would bet my life on the fact your last guest said about isis coming into america, i would guarantee you they're already here. i have worked in the desert and i have caught these people before and i've seen korans, prayer rugs, you name it. they're already here. >> i want to bring you to another area. there is seferls, there are cameras, there are things that are up but is it working? here's your interview with an arizona rancher. >> in the last 22 months we've had 43 trucks full of marijuana coming across this border. >> we've had $43 million come through this ranch. >> nobody stopped it. >> you've got the drones, satellites, radar, new cameras, border patrol station over there. how is that happening? >> i don't understand it. haven't been caught. >> once they do get here, here's what we're finding and you have found, that they do have rights. look at this. for example, we'll see some of the video. here's an example of a pregnant illegal coming over, being dropped off m texas and getting a care package. >> it's actually two pregnant ladies. as soon as they give birth to these children they are going to be u.s. citizens, entitled to everything there is you and i are entitled to as citizens. at this point citizenship is something that comes out of a cracker jack box with president obama obviously. this happens every single moment every single day in south texas. it isn't stopping. >> where can we see your documentaries? >> they can pick up a bunch for free. 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it's tradition for "the tonight show" in particular to go after the president. johnny carson was best friends with ronald reagan and used to do skits mocking him. >> i think jimmy fallon is voicing the thoughts of americans out there. to laugh about this stuff, that is actually quite hard to do. >> he got a lot of backlash. >> from who? >> from people. >> can you give us some? >> look up and you'll see them here. >> a tweet yesterday said congress left for five weeks on vacation. why do they get a free pass? the joke reenforces the untrue anti-obama rhetoric. >> he could not golf. you're right he was way out of bounds on that. >> this one also went to gym ni fallon. -- went to jimmy fallon. jay leno agreed to write your monolog. so cool. >> leno would be an equal opportunity offender. my hope is none of these late night shows give into that. >> very outraged about this. >> time will tell. i think jimmy fallon will stand the test of time. >> remember "the new york times" a year into the presidency, there should be jokes about every president but there is nothing funny about this president. >> if there is a republican president next, i'm sure fallon will be fair and balanced in his -- >> i hope so because he's doing an unbelievable job. >> one of my favorites there. the president yesterday and eric holder commenting on the shooting of an unarmed teen in missouri. al sharpton headed to the scene calling for a peaceful protest. al sharpton seemed to be fueling the fire. take a listen. >> the local authorities have put themselves in a position hiding names, not being transparent, where people will not trust anything but an objective investigation. we want real peace. we don't want to just be told to shut up and suffer in silence. >> you could do this thing called an investigation. we could do this thing called a peaceful protest. maybe you don't take a share and throw it through a shop window and loot it to show how angry you are. >> in defense, the naacp said you've got to stop this, it's got to be peaceful. cornell william brooks, quote, martin luther king did not live and die that we might steal and lie in the name of justice in the middle of the night. he lived and died that we might seek justice in the middle of the day. can i point out, al sharpton said he was going to go to the scene to calm things down. when al sharpton shows up at scenes like this there is no calming effect. mr. sharpton should consider staying in new york in his studio and doing whatever he does with his tv show because when he goes out there people get angry. there was rioting, continued looting. the business owners, they are the real -- besides the young man who was shot there is additional victims. business owners having chairs thrown through their stores being completely looted. that is not what this is all about. >> this is no small issue. after president obama made his statement, the aviation administration from the federal government said it banned flights from operating 3,000 feet from over ferguson to keep the area safe at the request of the police. this doesn't sound like it is camg -- calming down any time soon. dr. ben carson said why don't we take a page from martin luther king jr. in terms of what peace means. >> i think these people have not studied history. the reason why dr. martin luther king was so effective was because he quelled the temptation towards violence and in fact brought a lot of attention to the injustices that were being done. by rioting, by hurting people who have nothing to do with the incident, they -- the people engaged in that are actually detracting from the actual injustice that was done. >> wise statement. >> ben carson making moves to run for president. looks like he's consolidating that way. the other thing to point out is the cops have not identified the person involved. >> al sharpton calling for the release of that name to be expedited of course. heather, i see you standing there. you've got more headlines. >> we're talking about that rain outside and also flooding really from the west coast to the east coast and everything in between. take a look at this video. it is simply unbelievable. look at that massive wave of water. it comes through the doors and windows of a hospital in nebraska. that water washing away tables and chairs in a cafeteria in seconds. the flooding was the result of nearly four inches of rain but it came down so, so quickly. the body of casey kasem is now being moved for a second time. sources say his widow jean is planning to have his body flown to norway against the wishes of his children. she reportedly wants to prevent a second autopsy from taking place. last month she flew his body to canada from a funeral home in washington state. his children continue to object. an update on that mysterious brooklyn bridge flag swap. two german artists are taking credit for it saying they did it to honor the guy who basically built the whole thing. they didn't do it to humiliate police. details of how they did this include videos and pictures. the nypd calling this a credible lead. the owners of the empire state building are now under fire for refusing to honor children cancer research. the sky scraper's website says it doesn't award honorary lightings for political causes. okay. children cancer, a political cause. what do you think of that? last night you should know it was just lit up in blue in order to lure the 2016 democratic national convention to new york city. now that's a political cause. other causes they also lit up for: teenage mutant ninja turtles. remember this a few years ago. not worthy? mother teresa. they refused to honor what would have been mother teresa's 100th birthday but they did it for other things. the guy who runs the empire state building says it is a privilege, not a right. >> i just know this, the mayor de blasio who has an approval rating of minus 9 would benefit to have the d.n.c. bring it here and if he wanted to 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there. across long island we're hearing reports there are road closures due to the heavy rain. flash flood warnings in effect there. you can see another line of storms pushing through portions of upstate new york. the storm system packing a punch across portions of the great lakes and northeast. there's a look at the watches in effect anywhere from parts of upstate new york up into parts of the state of maine. there is a really strong cold front. the 70's across areas of the northeast. once it does push offshore we're going to be looking at beautiful weather. sunshine, pleasant temperatures. across portions of the plains another hot one from rapid city all the way down to parts of texas with highs widespread in the 90's. let's head back inside. >> thanks, maria. that is one huge umbrella. it is tremendous. we have a huge budget on our show. coming up straight ahead, while he was dubbed the funniest man alive off screen robin williams battled his demons like addiction and depression. >> 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>> no. no. and i just think that college isn't even for a lot of people anymore. i'm not even saying it's about the money. i'm saying that you want to help kids learn how to become self-reliant and they don't all need college to become self-reliant. if they want to go to college, then they need to start planning for it early. by them doing that, they're going to get the right experience. >> i get you. how do you teach a two-year-old -- you start them as young as two. what do you do at two? >> look, it's about a mindset. in just getting them to start thinking about what do they want and what do they need to do to get it? when it comes to a two or three-year-old, if you're at mcdonald's or wherever you're at and they want something, it's like well, you go up to the counter, you ask. you engage the person at the counter and ask for what you want. so it's just about learning, for kids to think about what they want and getting them to do things to get what they want and see that they get rewarded when they take action. >> i have a half hip or so. you start instilling values early. at what age do they really kind of pick it up, they understand what they're doing? >> i think probably about seven, eight, nine, they can really start doing a lot of different businesses. a lot of my kids were getting free stuff on craigslist and then turning around and selling it, starting virtual companies, going door to door car washes. seven, eight, nine. then as they become teen-agers, they can do amazing stuff. once they start making money, the sky is the limit. they start to see the power pretty quickly and get pretty excited all on their own. >> that's some great advice. you have a beautiful family. thank you very much. >> appreciate it. call the pc police. now even the navy giving the bible the boom then elisabeth hasselbeck joining the viral ice water challenge to raise money for lou gehrig's disease. but some claim it's not raising enough cash. we're proving that's not true with our own ice water challenge. guess who is getting iced? ♪ ♪ ♪but this... ♪takes my breath away every style's a showstopper! with fabrics that flatter and prints to go wild for. legs look longer, you look leaner. any way you wear them. chico's leggings. we're famous for our legs. at chico's and chicos.com. good morning. today is wednesday, august 13. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. hillary clinton making a late night phone call to president obama. the reason, just move things over after trashing his foreign policy. can she have it both ways? we report. you decide. the man the president says he will not put boots on the ground in iraq and now he's sending only 130 more military advisors into a war zone. so will the hands off strategy do anything to stop the blood thirsty terrorists? >> hands kind of off and kind of on. critics are questioning the ice challenge, saying it doesn't really raise a dime for charity? we're going to go inside that story. we've got a member of that charity, a bucket of ice, and a host who will never see it coming. >> chilling details ahead. >> 'cause mornings used to be better with friends. >> this is vanilla ice and you're watching "fox & friends," and this news baby. >> brilliant producing there. >> right. what commercial is he doing now? something for rite aid drug? does anyone know? is chris chulo here? vanilla ice has a gig. he's making the most of that song. >> he is. >> we have a lot to discuss, including a big party tonight that could be frosty but might not be now after an apology that came via the telephone. heather nauert has other stories that she claims are very important. >> good morning, everyone. hope you're off to a great day today. we've got politics to talk about this morning. this morning all eyes are on the state of minnesota. businessmen and political newcomer mike mcfaddin winning the reason senate primary there. he'll now take on senator al franken. >> i'm so honored to have won the primary and i can tell you, we did it without saying one bad word about another republican, period. we need to unify our party. >> then there is another race we're following, the race to fill michelle bachman's seat. tom emmer winning. for the county commissioner, jeff johnson, and he won a crowded republican primary for governor. he beat out three major rivals. he'll face mark dayton in november. another big story, historic flooding across the country now leaving two people dead. we start in arizona with this dramatic video. a man sitting on top of his car and he's forced to jump onto a fire truck to get to safety. look at all that rain and that flooding there. then let's head to detroit. a forklift, actually i think that's front end loader. it drags a car out of the water, one by one. in some places that water was 14 feet deep. can you imagine that? then in detroit, look at the scuba diver as he looks through the cab of the front of that truck. he swims through it to see if anyone is trapped. and then in pennsylvania, heavy rain there created a massive sinkhole that swallowed up a car. also it is a big mess here in the northeast as well. did robin williams take his own life because of money troubles? he apparently on the verge of bankruptcy after two expensive divorces. sources say that he recently confide to do a friend that he feared for his family's financial security. he had been trying to sell his villas since 2012 for $35 million, but there were no takers for that. investigators confirming that he did hang himself after trying to slash his wrist. no word yet on plans for a memorial service. then other sad news to bring you out of hollywood. another hollywood legend has passed away. the leading lady, lauren bacall. >> you know how to whistle, don't you? you put your lips together and blow. >> she's just gorgeous. that is a scene from the 1944 film "the haves and have notes." she was a model and then became an actress and eventually went on to marry humphrey bogart. he was her co-star. throughout her 60-year career, she appeared in more than 30 movies, performed on broadway. she died of a stroke. she was 89 years old. i always think of her as so much younger, though. i was surprised to learn she was 89. so talented. >> beautiful. >> i actually think they were better actors back then then they are now. when you watch those movies, i think they were better at it. >> twitter is on fire now because of a bunch of actors now. >> absolutely. let's talk about a battle that's going on on the democratic side. the secretary of state give an explanation on hers views. not just when it comes to what she wanted to do and what she didn't want to do, specifically with iran. she wouldn't buy into it. in the approach, would be more aggressive. when it came to the situation with arming the rebel, she said my recommendation was to do it. and because of that, the debate for foreign aid is wow. another critic of president obama, but this time somebody that was working for him. yesterday she tried to make amends. >> right. this is her quote from the atlantic interview. she said great nations need organizing principles and don't do stupid stuff is not an organizing principle. they are referring to obama's foreign policy of sorts. david axelrod certainly didn't like that quote and he took to twitter defending the president saying this: to clarify, don't do stupid stuff means stuff like occupying iraq in the first place, which was a tragically bad decision, says he. >> so let's take a step back for a second. so hillary clinton now says don't do stupid stuff is not a foreign policy. meanwhile, during the last four years or so, we've had gates come out and say he was making a mistake by pulling out of iraq, panetta saying that by pulling out of iraq. we've had again petraeus say it and now hillary clinton. so there is four high level people who probably have a good idea of what the right thing to do in iraq was. >> and then romney. >> and mitt romney, right. yet president obama, who said any criticism of his foreign policy -- remember when he said this a couple weeks ago -- is horse -- >> specifically when he talks about arming the syrian rebels. >> if you disagree with president obama, it's horse blank, but all these high level people who really have a good idea of what to do in iraq have a good idea. >> but she's going to see the first lady tonight on the vineyard, correct? >> i'm sure i'll get invited. >> hillary said the united states -- in making that statement, didn't mean to offend the president, didn't mean to attack him, his policies or his leadership and she thinks it would be fine to wear that striped tie to the party tonight. >> i might take it off. >> karl rove put it all in perspective about where we were and where we are. >> is the world a safer place today? no. it is not a safer place because what we did, it's succeed not guilty removing the taliban in afghanistan and removing saddam hussein has been frittered away by the policies of this administration. we need a change from the failed policy of the obama administration. that's a difficult dance for the democrats. more difficult than for the republicans. >> certainly a difficult one for hillary clinton moving into 2016 to try to side step and distance herself from president obama where she sat and made decision on foreign policy, to critique his is a risky thing to do moving forward, i think is what he's saying. may not benefit her. >> if the president is upset now and david axelrod has to go to twitter to defend him, it's only going to get worse as 2016 goes. >> it's strange where she has to go. she went so far right with this. in her defense, she's always been there. she's always been let's do more in syria. let's do more in areas that there is some unrest. and now the timing of it. president obama basically saying don't do stupid stuff is his foreign policy and the atlantic interview, which is a fantastic interview, if you haven't read it, read it. it all came together at the same time. but it's very interesting, the letter she wrote, the phone call she made and now the visit she's making to president obama. i don't know. i'm not sure that's great optics. >> president obama got back at her kind of by saying his biggest mistake was doing libya. guess whose idea that was. hillary clinton. eight minutes after the top of the hour. let's go out to washington where the crisis in iraq. additional 130 troops, after president obama promised no boots on the ground. elizabeth prann live in dc with the pentagon's new strategy. am i right? >> the pentagon is really careful when they describe it. they're saying it's a temporary mission, 130 troops are headed to the region on the heels of air strikes and a massive aid assistance. their job is to gauge the humanitarian crisis of the thousands of iraqi civilians. officials say any attempt to relocate those who were stranded would likely involve an international effort, but defense secretary chuck hagel says the troops are not headed for combat. they are, quote, assessors. >> this is not any extension of any role other of the united states, other than to find ways to assist and help advise the iraqi security forces. we're not going back into iraq in any of the same combat mission dimensions that we once were in in iraq. very specific, is not a combat boots on the ground operation. we're not going to have that kind of operation. >> reporter: for so many reasons, situation does remain fluid and very dangerous. the u.s. is working to strategically read a bat that will is ever changing. the islamic state used to behave more as an organized army with a strategy and perhaps a predictable plan. now they're seen more as insurgency with tactics unpredictable. militants are working to blend in among the population, making it a new and difficult enemy. back to you guys. >> wow. >> thank you. all right. we just know there is no boots on the ground. we know that for sure. >> when you talk about the pin prick air strikes to single choppers trying to deliver aid, we ask, is there a real strategy here when dealing with this region? charles krauthammer says the only strategy the president has is this. >> his mind, he was committed to a policy of hands off. we're not going to get into syria. we're not going to get back into iraq. i'm the peace maker. i won the nobel on the presumption i'm the man who takes us out of wars. so to act forcefully, to act decisively would have been a contradiction of the self image and of the image he wants history to read and the american people to see. >> i got news for you, if you look at the press conference on monday, you can see the department of defense is not buying whatever strategy the president is putting out there. they basically let it be known it's really not going to be effective long-term to take down isis. in june of 2011, john brennan, then seenor advisor to 30, said al-qaeda would do what they're doing and do what they're doing now. >> trust me, our strategy is also shaped by a deeper understanding of al-qaeda's goals, strategies and tactics. i'm not talk being al-qaeda's grand vision of global domination through a violence islamist califate. that's absurd. we're not going to organize our counterterrorism policies against a feckless delusion that's never going to happen. we're not going to elevate these thugs in their murderous aspirations into something larger than they are. >> three years later, al-qaeda's vision not looking so absurd with isis now ruling large territories in iraq and syria. so has the obama administration underestimated the reach of this terror group? >> our next guest knows firsthand the dangers of underestimating islamic terrorists. the former commandser officer of the uss cole which was attacked by al-qaeda in 2000. he joins us now. thank you for being with us. it is an honor to have you here. we thank you for your service. how grave is the mistake to underestimate al-qaeda, isis, calling them a jv team as the president did back in 2011 as we just heard there from those in the department, how much of a mistake was that? >> well, good morning. it is a big mistake. i clearly lived through the consequences of underestimating in the intelligence community the threat that al-qaeda represented to our nation and the attack on cole when 9-11 occurred. now we're seeing an underappreciation of how much of a threat isis, isil, whatever they want to call themselves these days, is going to represent. they've taken huge swaths of territory. they're becoming much more militarily capable. every time we do nothing but pin prick strikes, we're really giving them an opportunity to adapt and adjust to a strategy that has no direction right now. >> commander, i think it the numbers have been estimated around 10,000 now, total numbers for isis. how is it that 10,000 fighters can be taking so much territory when we have literally hundreds of thousands, whether it's kurds or iraqi military to fight these guys? what's going on? are they that mean? are they that bad that they can handle themselves with literally ten to one or 20 to one against them? >> i think what you're seeing is both the -- you have to look at the territory they're grabbing, the physical geographic location and how it's put out, the material that they've been able to gain by taking over military bases and use that, plus some of these countries, they're unprepared. they did not expect this type of attack. while they have the ability to defend themselves when you get closer in to their real territorial bounds, whether it's where the kurds are or toward baghdad, clearly they've been able to take large swaths with a relatively small group because they've gone unchallenged. >> what would you advise the president to do in terms of strategy? >> i think the first thing the president needs to do is do what he should have done five years ago. invest in the intelligence community, specifically the c.i.a., develop a human intelligence sources so that we can get people on the ground in syria, in lebanon, in jordan, in iraq so that we can understand the threat, see how it's developing from an on the ground perspective. we don't have that right now. we dismantled that to a degree during a number of administrations. it needs to come back now. the president had five years. clearly his senior advisors, both with general clapper and john brennan do not appreciate or cannot understand the threat because we don't have the intelligence sources. consequently, we're setting this nation up for another attack. >> we've been gutting our military, people don't seem to mind. the only thing the president seems to be happy cutting is the military. but overall, the intelligence community is apoplectic with that statement. they have been warning the administration about the growth of isis, as fallujah fell, as ramadi fell, mosul falls and all of a sudden it's a five alarm fire. so they're upset by this. i also sense that the pentagon is not happy with the strategy, whatever it is, that they've been asked to implement right now because i watched that briefing on monday. they said we're not going to control isis with this. we're not going to be able to really do trend -- have tremendous success with the humanitarian mission. so what's going on here? >> well, first to answer the question, brian, what strategy? there is no strategy for how to deal with isis right now. consequently, what you're looking at is a military that's being pushed forward. you got an intelligence community that may be sounding the alarm bells internally, but clearly the administration is more interested in political posturing than using productive intelligence to make a strategic decision on how to safeguard the nation. >> the military have to suck it up and do as it's told? >> hopefully we don't do that. but these days we're seeing so many political senior leaders in the military that are beholden to the white house rather than in defense of the nation, that they need to start speak out and loudly. they may work for the commander in chief, but they also work for the american people. >> are you disappointed in martin dempsey? >> i think that obviously there are a number of political considerations that he takes into account with every word he says and i think it's unfortunate. i have yet to see him take on the president and while many people say oh, you just can't do that, the reality of it is he has a larger obligation to the defense of this nation than to the commander in chief's political policies. >> wow. commander, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. really drawing a light on the threat that is real to americans right now as far as isis is concerned. coming up, robin williams suffered from addiction and severe depression and he was not alone. if you or someone you know is also suffering, send us your questions and dr. ablow will answer them next. and president obama promised to get lobbyists out of the white house. this morning he's changing his tune. why you should pay attention to this one. ♪ ♪ ♪ fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies, and never any by-products or fillers. wow! being a cat just got more enjoyabowl. fancy feast broths. wow served daily. but parallel parking isn't one you do a lof them.ings great. you're either too far from the curb. or too close to other cars... it's just a matter of time until you rip some guy's bumper off. so, here are your choices: take the bus. or get liberty mutual insurance. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. call liberty mutual insurance. without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. because the best moments in life aren't experienced from the sidelines. now there's nothing holding you back. this is nexium level protection™. the #1 prescribed acid-blocking brand now without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protection™, now available at walgreens. female narrator: the mattress price wars are on the mattress price wars are on at sleep train. we challenged the manufacturers to offer even lower prices. now it's posturepedic versus beautyrest with big savings of up to $400 off. serta icomfort and tempur-pedic go head-to-head with three years' interest-free financing. plus, free same-day delivery, set-up, and removal of your old set. when brands compete, you save. mattress price wars are on now at sleep train. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ some health headlines right now. if you think hand sanitizers will keep your kids germ free, think again. a new study finds children who use hand sanitizers in their classroom have an equal number of sick days as those who did not use them at all. another kid came to school sick and got others sick. sleep drugs used by shift workers do not work. melatonin health workers sleep longer, but didn't help them get to sleep faster. they also cause headaches and high blood pressure. bad news all around. he made us all laugh, but we know that robin williams had a tough battle with addiction and severe depression. the battle he lost this week. >> that's right. he is not alone. approximately 16 million adults dealt with a depressive episode in 2012. there is still a stigma attached and many people are not as open as williams was. >> here to help with the discussion and answer some of your questions, psychiatrist and fox news contributor dr. keith ablow. welcome. big news. so let's just go right to some of these e-mails. e male from joe says what did robin williams have to be depressed about? he was famous and rich. >> well, here is the thing, this viewer doesn't grasp what depression really is. it's an illness. it fools the psychological immune system, literally. you think there is nothing to live for. you have no defenses against it and it seems as though death is preferrable to life, which we all know is not true. but that is how severe a condition it is. listen, to the viewer, you're infinitely richer than mr. williams' survivors who now cope with the gravity of his loss. this is a monstrous condition. it isn't about fame or money that makes you immune. nothing makes you immune. >> this is an e-mail from lynn. we love your insight on it as well. i have a 34-year-old child battling ocd, depression, and need to know how to tackle this horrible disorder. she's getting counseling and has been put on medication. dr. ablow mentioned a drug. could you please tell me what it is? >> i think the medicine that she's referring to is called catamine. it was a drug of abuse in clubs. people would use too much of it, take it by mouth and get high. but we know now is that when it's infused, given i.v., about six times, it can lift people out of their depressions in dramatic fashion and especially it can crush suicidal thinking. so if your family member is struggling with depression and literally thinking of taking his or her life, you may very well want to consider catamine as one solution. >> very good. another says i heard many times that it's common for people who suffer clinical depression after major heart surgery. it seems he had many struggles over the years as many comedians do. perhaps the surgery played a role. >> perhaps it did. and there can be many reasons why heart surgery could impact a man or woman. you may see your mortality in a different way, feel that you're vulnerable, think that your energy is not as great as it once was. but also medicines used after heart surgery can cause depression, beta blockers. these are anti-hyper tensesive and agents that help the heart function, but they can also cause depression. if you or a loved one started a beta blocker anti-hyper tensesive, anti-blood pressure medicine and you have changed in terms of your mood, talk to your doctor about the alternatives. >> another tweet from peggy who says i understand that depression can be a cause of suicide or a factor in it. but is it really a reason for it >> well, i think what peggy is trying to get at is is it hopeless? is the pain which has been compared in studies to being as severe as that of a malignancy, of cancer, is that a reason? listen, peggy, no, never, because these are treatable conditions, depression and anxiety. everybody i've treated gets better and there are conditions that come and go. so even if you did nothing, you could look forward, most people, to it remitting. but we have such powerful tools now to treat this, it's never a reason. the trouble is it steals your ability to be rational, so you think there is a reason. there is never that reason. >> there is a big question going back and forth in the wake of robin williams' death. is depression and dependence, which one came first? do people use drugs to deal with the depression or does the drug use cause the dependence? >> both and. it can go either way. you can be depressed and therefore drugs and alcohol, which can exert some mood lifting effects. unfortunately, they're bad ways to lift your mood. but you can start with that, with depression. on the other hand using cocaine, stimulants and even marijuana in a chronic way can cause depression. so there is a very unhealthy alliance between those two disorders. >> dr. keith, we want to thank you. you really led the way yesterday with this network. a meaningful practical conversation about depression and what it can ultimately lead to and how to get help. thank you for that. >> thank you. he's hiding in russia, accused of being a traitor. now edward snowden is featured in a magazine holding an american flag. and i did it, but now critics are questioning the ice challenge, saying it doesn't raise a dime for charity. we've got the numbers to prove that wrong, a bucket of ice and maria molina is about to get dunked. ♪ ♪ fact. every time you take advil liqui gels you're taking the pain reliever that works faster on tough pain than extra strength tylenol. and not only faster. stronger too. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil every time you take advil you're taking the medicine doctors recommend most for joint pain. more than the medicine in aleve or tylenol. the medicine in advil is the number one doctor recommendation for joint pain. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil making sure you pay the right price for a new car just got a whole lot easier. introducing the kelley blue book price advisor. the powerful tool that shows you what should pay. it gives you a fair purchase price that's based on what others recently for the same car and kelley blue book's trusted pricing expertise. it all adds up to the confidence that you'll get a great deal. that's just another way kbb.com helps you make a smart new car decision. this is one of those things that i better take care of. remind me to send him a thank you note. >> that is great. >> fantastic! >> i was a little surprised by that. 27 minutes before the top of the hour. we got very exciting block coming up. >> we sure do. ice block are you referring to? >> possibly. >> possibly. >> and maria molina could be going down. >> that's right. >> heather nauert, you have the latest. >> yes. elisabeth challenged me the other day. so we're all jumping on the band wagon. i have news out of the midwest this morning. a third night of riots in missouri. now violence and tensions in ferguson, missouri over the shooting of an unarmed black surgeon. rioters say they're calling for justice for 18-year-old michael brown who was shot and killed by a cop, but an investigation is not complete. police in riot gear lining the street in a barricade hoping to stop the protesters from advancing. anger over authorities refuse to go identify the police officer who fatally shot the teen-ager. police citing death threats against that officer. the shooting also triggering violent riots and looting in that area. the faa even forced to temporarily restrict air space over that city because someone shot at police helicopters. in a statement president obama called the shooting heart breaking. take a look here at the new cover of wired magazine that. is edward snowden as he clutches an american flag. the man who leaked secret government data is still living in russia after the government of vladimir putin announced he would be allowed to stay there three more years. he claims he, quote, cares more about america than what happens to me. president obama promised to crack down on lobbyists in the white house. remember he said that time and time again during the campaign. he said paid lobbyists were drowning out the views of ordinary citizens. this morning the president changing his mind. he just decided to loose the restrictions on lobbyists who want to serve on federal advisory boards. this major reversal coming after several lobbyists filed a suit claiming that their constitutional rights were being violated. listen to this one. what do you think about this story? bibles now getting the boot from the u.s. navy? they're now being removed from every hotel room on military bases. this following a complaint from the freedom from religion foundation. the bibles will be taken to donation centers. the american family association calling for christians to fight back and calling on the navy to reverse that decision. those are your headlines. what do you think about that? in the meantime, let's head outside to maria. we've got flash flooding that's causing chaos across the country. before we head to her, let me mention, this is brand-new video we just got in this morning. this is a highway on long island, new york. i had to drive through part of this on my way to work this morning. maria, flooding all across the country and the threat isn't over just yet. >> hey, that's right. the threat not over yet. the storm system still on the move after producing more than a foot of rain in several areas, including parts of long island and also across the state of maryland yesterday. so a very powerful storm system. today we could be seeing more flooding across portions of new england. that's where we have some flash flood watches in effect. you can see on the radar image some very heavy rain still coming down across parts of long island, parts of connecticut and moving into parts of massachusetts. and there is a look at your flash flood watches that are in effect and also several warnings out there. temperature wise, behind this cold front, it is going to be a lot cooler. take a look at some of the high temperatures in places like cleveland, low 70s. 70s in carby, maine. across portions of the plains, it will be a hot one. temperatures in the 90s from rapid city down into parts of texas. now i am tossing over to you. i have nothing in my ear. i can't hear producers. i know what's going on here. you've done it. >> you have to do something extraordinary for an unbelievable cause. >> that's right. >> the als ice bucket challenge is taking social media by storm. as you know, als right now needs finances. everyone is doing the ice bucket challenge. then there is a rumor going out that the money is not being raised for als. joining us now robert tuckman, he is one of the experts in this area. he's going to tell us what the truth is about als. thanks so much for coming out. >> thanks for having me. >> tell me about the movement and tell me about the success it's really having. >> it's been incredible. so als, we don't get a lot of notoriety over any time period. this time period in the last two weeks we've raised $2.3 million in comparison to $22,000 the same time frame last year. >> donations are actually up? >> oh, my god up, off the charts. it's incredible. i can't explain my gratitude for what has happened with this movement. everything it means to als. als, it affects a small amount of people, but it's such a devastating disease and the fact that we've been able to have this blessing has been incredible. >> we take a younger set of generations and teens that are doing it, celebrities and athletes, baseball players, lou gehrig's disease is how it's known. one of the coaches said look, imagine if in that time, 1939, there could have been a medium to spread awareness and raise funds what, could have been done back then? >> it's incredible. this couldn't have happened five years ago. now we're looking at a situation here where we got to rethink, how do he get our message out? social media is doing that for us right now. it's incredible. >> how does a bucket become money? >> so let's not say everyone is throwing the ice bucket over their heads, that's great. but how do you really raise money is that what you do is you throw the ice over your head, which we're going to do, and then make a donation to als and you can do that at als.org and you can send checks, you can do it on line. really that's what it's about. everyone chipping in. >> so people see maria like this, or elisabeth, and they say, i'm motivated, that's what you want them to do? >> exactly. if they can go to als.org and donate money, that's great. >> i challenge someone when i'm done, correct? >> you can challenge three people and we have three people right here. >> wait, wait, wait. there is one thing. i do have other weather to do. so i brought my shower cap. here is a thermometer. i'm a meteorologist. >> someone else pat her dawn. see what else she's got. there is janitors with less stuff on. >> she's capped and ready to go for the ice bucket challenge to benefit als research. are you ready? >> doing the ice dance. it was 48 hours when she was doing it to herself. now it's maria molina doing it for als. >> i do it myself? >> we can lift it up for you and then you're going to dunk it. one, two, three. >> well done. >> how does it feel? >> now i have to challenge someone, right? >> you have to challenge somebody else. >> i'm going to bring in my weather teammate, rick reichmuth, for a good cause. here we go. >> he has 24 hours to do the challenge. so we can give him 24 hours or get him right now. >> so maria, you're a great sport for a great cause. elisabeth, way to motivate. >> thank you so much. >> the rest of the show, not only are they in this country illegally, but they're convicted criminals and now running free. wait until you hear the reason we let them go. and the summer is winding down. now it's a perfect time to cash in on some amazing deals, like how to save over $100,000 on hd tv. we'll show you how and where they're hiding, all next. someone dry off maria. ♪ ♪ woman: jimmy, all of these travel sites seem the same. captain obvious: tell your grandmother with the hotels.com loyalty program, she'll earn free nights. so they're not the same, because they're different. woman: jimmy's not my grandson, captain obvious. woman: man: he's my lover. no. 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we have the 411 on that. a traffic stop turns ugly when activists show up to defend an illegal who broke the law. the protesters crawl under the agent's car. what in the world is going on? brian? >> to keep the illegal here and not get the illegal arrested. hope they weren't hungry. a bear breaks into a truck and eats the workers' lunch and looks at the camera. even makes eye contact. what a daring bear. >> bold. >> i would say bold. mornings are better with friends. >> this is paul stanley and you're watching "fox & friends". >> good morning. thank you for joining us now. hey, brian. >> hey. >> made you laugh? >> yes. very funny. i do think this, are we running out of woods? why are the bears coming out now? >> why are they posing for selfies? >> perhaps we're just packing better lunches that seem to entice them more. >> i blame lunchables. i blame the fact -- or the peanut but ther and jelly pockets. what are they called? the little wafers. >> hot pockets? >> they're cold. i know what you're saying. >> they're fantastic. peanut but ther and jelly. >> crustables. >> crustables. thank you. >> you know what the problem is? no one in the control room has time for lunch. they work straight through. heather nauert? >> good morning. sorry i had to jump in. >> you helped me. i got two blind stares here. >> that was a mommy intervention. >> all right. good morning, guys. hope everyone is off to a great day. we've got brand-new video to show you. coming out of long island, new york, kilmeade and i had to drive through this kind of rain right there. dozens of cars stranded overnight by a lot of flooding. luckily we made it into work. that is really something else. then there is a similar scene in arizona. a guy sitting on top of his car. he was forced to jump onto a fire truck just to get to safety. look at those raging waters right there. and then i want to show you this video out of detroit. that is a front end loader. it had to drag a car out of the water and it did it one by one. in some places that water was 14 feet deep. wow. hard to imagine there. and then in detroit, a scuba diver swims flew the flood water to see if anyone is trapped as he looks in the front of that truck right there. we'll keep watching. new tensions for a third night in a row in ferguson, missouri, over the fatal shooting of an unarmed black student. 18-year-old michael brown was shot and killed by a police officer. overnight police in riot gear lining the streets hoping to stop protesters from advancing further inflaming the anger. police refusing to identify the cop who fatally shot brown, citing death threats. did robin williams take his own life because of money troubles? he apparently on the verge of bankruptcy after two expensive divorces. sources say that he recently confided to a friend that he feared for his family's financial security. he had been trying to sell his house since 2012 for $35 million, but there were apparently no takers. williams also struggled with addiction and depression. earlier today dr. ablow explained what he called an unhealthy alliance between the two disorders. listen to this. >> you can be depressed and therefore drugs and alcohol which can exert some mood lifting effects, unfortunately, they're bad ways to lift your mood. but you can start with that, with depression. on the other hand, using cocaine, stimulants and even marijuana in a chronic way can cause depression. >> investigators confirming that williams hanged himself after he tried to slash his wrist. no word yet on plans for a memorial service. more sad news out of hollywood. another hollywood legend has passed away. the leading lady, lauren bacall. >> you know how to whistle, put your lips together and blow. >> that's one lady. that is a scene from the film "to have and have not," one of the iconic moments of history. she was a model turned actress and eventually married her co-star, humphrey bogart. she had a 60-year career and appeared in more than 30 movies, performed on broadway and received an honorary oscar. she was 89 years old. that was one sexy woman. >> right. >> not kidding there. incredible career. >> and normally this would be even bigger news, but with the robin williams suicide, everyone is talking about that. but lauren bacall certainly noteworthy. let's talk about politics. while you were sleeping, last night hillary clinton was not. no, she was on the phone and guess who she was calling. it was the president. it was to perhaps apologize, we hear, over a quote that she was given to an atlantic interview where she condemned the president's foreign policy, saying it was his don't do stupid stuff. great nations need principles and don't do stupid stuff is not an organizing principle. it prompted her to get backlash from david axelrod and make the call to the president, apologizing before a big party today. >> here is david axelrod's tweet before she made the phone call. just to clarify, he tweeted out, don't do stupid stuff means stuff like occupying iraq in the first place, which was a tragically bad decision. that's axelrod's conclusion. he's doing that because hillary clinton, one of 29 democrats in the senate at the time who voted in support of the war, because she was with bill clinton when she was first lady and saw the threat that iraq was. perhaps later on she would say for political reasons, she changed her mind because she couldn't support the surge in iraq because barak obama had already isolated her because she had supported the war in iraq. >> don't forget, president obama, one of the first things he did, first foreign policy speech in june of 2009 said, you know, we're doing this. we're pulling out. we're basically -- he was basically being an apologist over the way we had been for the last ten or so years, saying america is not going to be that way going forward. so he told the american people and the world frankly what he was up to. it should come as no surprise that he would say don't do stupid stuff as his foreign policy. >> this is a story in politico today. one of the things where the rubber hit the road with hillary clinton reportedly and barak obama, according to the former secretary of state, was the free syrian army. when the syrian started the protests against assad, she essentially said i support it. supporting the protesters to professor throw assad and the president says it's ridiculous to think a bunch of farm insists were going to -- farmists were going to overthrow a government like assad. really? a person in the room when that proposal was made, it wasn't done by hillary clinton. it was done by leon panetta, supported by david petraeus, and perhaps by the secretary of state, and the president, when he left that meeting, requested from congress $500 million to support the free syrian army. so if it's farcecal to think we could possibly support the free syrian army, why did the president request $500 million for it? >> here you have hillary clinton, can she have it both ways? she said she's sorry for saying what she said about what he said about foreign policy. as we move into 2016, karl rove indicated you better pay really close attention to history here because having it both ways might not prove so well for you. >> we've seen the drama once before. in 1968 vice president hubert humphrey, who disagreed with president johnson on the vietnam war had difficulty breaking from the administration. he finally did it in a speech in salt lake in october. but by doing so, he neither placated the critics nor kept the support of all of johnson's -- of those who agreed with johnson. >> so the question is, can the president -- can hillary clinton who wants to be president, perhaps, can she unite the democratic party by criticizing the democratic press? >> how would she answer the question, you were there for four years. most of the iraq policy was developed under your watch with the white house. how did you not stop it? how did you not step up and say hey, i'm against this and i want to put my foot down and let the world know because here we are six years later, you want to run for president? >> in defense of the former secretary of state, i don't really remember too many times when the secretary of state has turned on the president. colin powell used to do is plant stories in newspapers saying, according to a high ranking source, colin powell is not for x policy. but the president would decide between them. in this case, the department of state and defense was for it. the president got some mystery advice not to go with it. >> when the first lady and hillary clinton come together at a big party on the vineyard tonight, it might get a little icy or awkward. or did the i'm sorry work last night on the phone call to the president? >> in other news, the u.s. is sending an additional 130 troops to iraq after president obama had promised no boots on the ground. elizabeth prann is live in washington with what the pentagon is now saying. elizabeth what, is the very latest? >> reporter: well, after the u.s. dropped strikes in massive amounts of supplies to thousands of helpless stranded civilians, the pentagon carefully announced an additional mission which includes 130 troops heading to the region. they'll be gauging the humanitarian crisis which includes helpless men, women and children, all part of a religious minority, homeless on a mountain. experts say a relocation effort could likely involve international resources. the white house is prudent when describing the mission. >> so these would be a limited number of advisors who would deploy to northern iraq where they would assess the situation with the iraqi government and determine what the options are to get humanitarian assistance to those people who are in need. >> reporter: while the additional troops will assist the state department and others in helping those trapped with limited food, water and medical care, of course, in the summer heat, the military front also rages on. u.s. officials continue to read an ever changing battle. the islamist stake used to reportedly behave more as an organized army with a strategy and perhaps a predictable plan. now they're using insurgency plans, and perhaps one some military officials need additional air strikes. back to you guys. >> going to be a tough few weeks and maybe months. mine while, don't you think it's important if we're going to come up with a strategy to understand who the enemy is and how dangerous it could possibly be? if you were looking at the c.i.a. to come up with that answer, perhaps the infrastructure is there, but the man who would eventually become the c.i.a. director was not somebody who could actually see over the horizon on the potential danger of a group like isis forming. >> in fact, john brennan, the former counterterrorism advisor, now c.i.a. director, actually said it would be delusional, this couldn't happen. nothing to worry about when it comes to isis. >> our strategy is also shaped by a deeper understanding of al-qaeda's goals, strategy and tactics. i'm not talking about al-qaeda's grandiose vision of global domination through a caliphate. that vision is absurd and we're not going to organize our counterterrorism policies against a feckless delusion that's never going to happen. we are not going to elevate these thugs and their murderous aspirations into something larger than they are. >> okay. thanks. because now they are larger and now they have called themselves an established caliphate that has straddled iraq and syria and now baghdad. >> 10,000 in training. tens of millions of dollars behind them with a mission to murder christians across the region. i mean, this is pure genocide here. their mission as we heard from many officials, to actually increase attempts to get into the united states. this is al-qaeda in the making now. this is the new al-qaeda moving to kill anyone who doesn't believe what they believe. >> right. they stole somewhere around 1 1/2 billion dollars in gold from an iraqi bank. here is a quiz, brian. this guy was held by the u.s. military from 2005 to 2009. president obama declared we're pulling out of iraq. under that, it may have been amnesty that let this guy out in 2010. he became an al-qaeda leader. his name is abu al bagdadi. do you know who he is? the leader of isis now. we had him. we let him go. he's now the leader of isis. if that doesn't tell you that president obama and his foreign policy and his dealing with terrorists in the middle east is all off and dangerous, nothing else will. the guy we had in that prison is now leading isis. it makes you wonder that five for one trade for sergeant bergdahl, are those guys going to start showing up in isis? >> hear no evil, see no evil doesn't mean it doesn't exist. that theory of hands off has proven wrong. we're now suffering now an attempt to kind of come back from behind as it seems from the president. >> his last words when he was left out was to his guards, located on long island, i'll see you in new york. meanwhile, other major news, including stuff to be passionate about, immigration. a traffic stop turns ugly in arizona when immigration activists showed up to defend an illegal who got busted behind the wheel. yeah. defending the illegal. those out of control activists even threw their bodies underneath a border patrol car in an attempt to delay the arrest. >> and they claim the cops are racist and officers say they're just doing their job. following the 2010 immigration law that sparked protests across the country. joining us is the author of that law. when you see that video of citizens stopping an officer from doing his job, what does that make you think and feel? >> well, it makes me feel like the rule of law is truly under threat in this country because we passed this law and the arizona legislature passed it with huge majority. we fought it all the way to the supreme court and the supreme court said this law stands. but when the open borders left doesn't get their way, they turn to mob violence. our country is supposed to be a country where the representatives vote on a law. if someone wants to challenge it in court, they can. hey, this law is perfectly legitimate. there is nothing biased about it. >> who in your mind, is violating the law then? >> well, the illegal alien is violating the law. he committed a traffic violation and then admitted to the officer that he's here in the country illegally. that's when sb 1070 quick in, like it's intended. the officer has to make a call to the border patrol or ice and as a result, one less illegal alien is in the state of arizona. that's how it's supposed to work. you multiply it by tens of thousands of times across the state and you have a significant multiplier that the federal government, the border patrol and ice can use with the help of state and local police. >> chris, who turned this issue on its head? who flipped this issue? this clearly is right and wrong. now it's wrong and right. >> yeah. the interesting thing here is this strife, this flipping of the issue, if you will, is completely artificial. apparently the driver of the car had a phone number with him and he called the protesters and said hey, i'm in contact with the tucson police right now and they spontaneously came to him and started this -- that's why i say artificial protest, to make a big stink over this law. by the way, there have been thousands of other illegal aliens arrested in traffic incidents in tucson and handed over to the border patrol with no incident whatsoever. >> chris, thanks so much for joining us. this is probably one of the most important issues domestically that we're tackling. coming up, brand-new details revealing tony stewart almost killed another driver last year at the same track he struck and killed kevin ward, junior in inadvertently, it seems. the latest bombshell in this investigation? we'll explain. the president promised to keep lobbyists out of the white house. >> we have the chance to go ahead and say to the lobbyists in washington, your days of setting the agenda are over. >> well, this morning he may have changed his mind. next up, there is hype for hillary. 5-7. for obama, 2009. after that, there is biggest inspiration, hillary's is john f. kennedy. obama's is that guy in the corona commercial who throws the phone into the ocean. finally, we have personal motto. hillary's is 2016, can't get here fast enough. obama's is ditto. they're not that different after all. helping you fall asleep and stay asleep so your body can heal as you rest. advil pm. for a healing night's sleep. every style's a showstopper! with fabrics that flatter and prints to go wild for. legs look longer, you look leaner. any way you wear them. chico's leggings. we're famous for our legs. at chico's and chicos.com. can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. new fiber one streusel. today, more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-acting levemir®, an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® is now available in flextouch® - the only prefilled insulin pen with no push-button extension. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that's 50% longer than lantus®, which lasts 28 days. today, i'm asking about levemir® flextouch. 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joining us is fox news legal analyst peter peer. >> it gets more disturbing by the moment. greg cooper, a cousin of a woman named alicia ruggles, whose back was broken allegedly in a race with stewart, says stewart was trying to splash mud, or stone, as he says, mr. laird. >> to send a message. >> push him back, and that it went terribly awry and resulted in his death. unfortunately, mr. stewart's got a history in terms of how he's acted and what he said. reportedly in 2013 he made these comments about driver joey lagano in a race. if he ever turns down in front of me again, i don't care what lap it is, he won't make it through the other end of it. we have some other evidence. paul kinney, a driver in saturday's race, said it's not a good idea to get out of your car, but nobody can speak for tony. only tony knows exactly what happened. i've seen kevin clear as day. nobody else ran into him either. so what he's saying is mr. laird was there to be seen. no one else struck him. but mr. stewart at that time and why did that occur? there was a caution flag and according to some reports in the accident reconstruction is being done now in a forensic way, mr. stewart's car sped up. we don't know whether he was shifting in some way, that he was speeding up to avert the person on the track, who knows? couple of issues, will tony stewart be charged? early this morning before i saw this new york post story that details this new event, i thought no, because new york has the lowest vehicle homicide rate in the united states. drivers charged with homicide in only 5% of fatal crashes. in order to charge someone on a manslaughter standard or even a vehicle homicide standard in new york, there must be a moral blame worthiness test, meaning you need to be wreckless, a violation of the law. the violation of a statute is not enough. >> did prior activity or quote lend any weight to that theory? >> it lends weight in terms of intent, if there was an intentional act by tony stewart that somehow he was trying to strike his fellow driver who was trying to kill him on the track, what he said or what he did or what happened between the two of them, there was a bump, that may be part of the investigation. >> that's a criminal aspect of it. can the track or tony stewart himself be sued? >> yes, and i believe they will be sued. he will be sued and the track will be sued as a result of this. negligence is the standard. appropriate reasonable behavior is the standard. there is an issue when you go on a track like that and other sprint car tracks around the country, drivers have to sign a waiver as a result of a 2008 accident in williamsport, pennsylvania, there was a lawsuit brought by a quadriplegic driver. he lost that and he lost that because he had signed the waiver. track issues will come into play. why wasn't the driver directed to stay in the car? that's the e-mail and the tweets i'm getting time and time again. why did he step out of the car into harm's way? was he stunned? was he a victim of head trauma at that point? why was he pointing at tony stewart? why did tony stewart act in the fashion that he did? negligent, intentional, bad break, god's will, who knows? the investigation continues. i don't believe he'll be prosecuted, but this will be a vigorous, vigorous lawsuit in which they go after tony stewart and this track for millions and millions of dollars. >> wow. peter johnson, jr., thank you. we know you will stay on that. >> we will. it's a tragic and interesting story. >> sure is, thanks. still ahead, call the pc police. now the navy is giving the bible the boot. your e-mails are pouring in about that. and this cat knows no bounds. even doors can't hold him back. ♪ ♪ your eyes. even 10 miles away. they can see the light of a single candle. look after them with centrum silver. multivitamins for your eyes, heart and brain. now, with a new easy to swallow coating. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. and never quite get over it.y. cialis for daily use seven billion hungry people. well, we grow a lot of food. we also waste about a third of what we grow. so, we put our scientists to work. and they found ways to keep the food we grow fresher, longer. using innovative packaging. there are still a lot of hungry people in the world. but we have a lot of scientists. this is the human element at work. dow. ♪ ♪ ♪here i am. rock you like a hurricane♪ fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. time for your shot of the morning. workers in colorado came back to their truck for lunch and found a bear that beat them to it. how many times has this happened to you? check out the animal sitting in the front seat. he crawled inside after sniffing out which is called a yummy sandwich. one of the guys left hyped. how bad do you feel if you had a sandwich in there and the bear those the other guy's? he stayed there for 30 minutes before he decided to leave. hi, honey. thanks a lot, but it wasn't bear worthy. >> playing some music and hanging out. >> what did they used to eat before they started coming out? >> peanut but ther and jelly things. what are they called? >> crustables. >> uncrustables. >> it's a little disk and packed with jelly and peanut butter. back to this, what do bears eat? do they eat squirrels? chipmunk? do they have to eat our stuff? >> it's better, brian. it's just better. >> your dog likes people food better than dog food, doesn't he? >> i don't know. we don't give him the opportunity. duke. >> duke gets no people food. >> he never has people food. >> how do you know he's not having it right now? he may not get people food and it looks like two groups might not get the bible. there is a war in religion going on. right now bibles are booted from navy base guest rooms and an atheist group is telling a georgia football team to punt the prayers. that's right. we've had two situation. if you go to visit in the navy in the guest rooms, they no longer hold the bibles. and then is the school actually in gainesville, they use a proverbs quote up on their game plan to inspire some of the players. one concerned citizen wrote in and said, hey, we're not having this anymore. this is not freedom for us. that's offensive. it's too religious and being forced on the players to motivate them. >> i don't know how having a bible in a hotel room in a drawer is forced on anyone. you don't want to read it, leave it in the drawer. you're not forced to read it. i can't figure that out. >> you would think an american organization, a federal-run organization would be able to make their own decisions. but it's atheist organizations pushing back. >> if it's a money thing, i bet your bottom buck you will find someone willing to donate all the bibles for all the rooms in the navy and high school. >> we put this on facebook. in america, we're guaranteed freedom of religion, now it seems the only ones who are not guaranteed that are the christian majority. >> i would agree with eric, even though my name is eric. tom says, why are atheists' rights more important than everyone else's? where is the constitution say we never have to see something that offends us? all these lawsuits do is cost tax dollars and they all offend me. kerry said this, sad that we push equality unless it comes to the christian beliefs and then it's wrong. very hypocritical. in light of what's going on in the world and the persecution of christians right now, how close i would add this other question, how close do we want to get to emmitting religious -- eliminating religious freedom. >> and i carry the constitution every day. this is a big, big point of contention. i'm a constitutionalist and these freedom from religion groups, i don't think they have a basis in this. i really don't. i think they're expanding. they're overstepping their bounds on it. >> they're passionate in what they don't believe. >> right. >> or want you to believe. >> i'm passionate about tossing to heather. >> fine, we'll let you. >> let's talk about this rain all across the country. look at what happened in the midwest. this video is simply unbelievable. take a look. a massive wave of water coming right through the doors and windows at a hospital in nebraska. the water washing away tables and chairs in the cafeteria in just seconds there. that flooding is a result of nearly four inches of rain that came down so quickly. a real mess out there. the body of casey kasem is now being moved a second time. sources say that his widow, jean, is planning to have his body flown to norway against the wishes of his children here in the united states. she reportedly wants to prevent a second autopsy from occurring. last month she flew his body to canada from a funeral home in washington state. listen to this, he was afraid of being deported. a suspected illegal immigrant on the run from police and this is such a tragic story, crashes into a car, leaving a family of four dead. he led police on a wild chase near houston after refusing to stop for a traffic violation. his speeds reaching 100 miles per hour. his girlfriend says that she was on the phone with him during the time of the chase and he said he was afraid of being deported. he also died in that crash. a family of four dead also this morning. and no opposable thumbs necessary. this clever cat figured out a way to open all the doors on his own. the owner even tried putting water in front of the door, but that didn't stop him. he now goes out whenever he wants. those are your headlines. remember last week we had the bear who opened the car door? >> right. i will say this, my dog has bad hips. he would jump on the screen door and walk backwards with it. that was before the iphone and i couldn't tape it. again. >> we don't believe you. >> if you want to be impressed by the cat, fine. but i'm more impressed by my german shepherd in 1979. >> i still don't believe you. i need proof. >> appreciate it. >> over the weekend i took the ice bucket challenge. you can believe it to benefit als and the challenge is taking social media by storm and everyone is getting in on the action. a little while ago, it was maria molina's turn. >> doing the ice bath. it was 48 hours ago when she was doing it to herself. now it's maria molina doing it for als. >> duke it for a great cause. >> i do it myself? >> you're we can lift it and you dump it. one, two, three. >> well done. >> how did it feel? >> very cold. >> she did a great job. have you warmed up since? >> i think i feel very refreshed. i say we do this every single morning before the show starts. what do you think? >> sounds good. that shower cap is going right to the smithsonian. we got to get a new shower cap for tomorrow. >> i think you get two more picks. i think you might be able to get doocy and kill need in there. >> -- kilmeade in there. >> i'll nominate you, eric. >> no, kilmeade and doocy. >> there you go. >> you know how "the five"'s one more thing. >> you have 24 hours to take the als challenge. >> can i get 36? >> 24. 24 hours. but i do want to switch gears a little bit because today is wednesday. that means it's science trivia day. and today's question is related to ice because of the ice bucket challenge. so today's question is, the process in which ice turns directly into a gas is called a, evaporation, b, sub limation, c, condensation, or d, reposition. what do you think? >> a. >> you think it's a? evaporation? this is an ice, a solid going directly to a gas. >> i'll go with a. >> i'm going with b. >> you're correct. it's sublimation. >> you're kidding. by the way, thanks for letting me play. >> i guess i'll play next week. >> thanks for that. coming up, the empire state building refused to honor mother theresa. now kids with cancer are getting no respect either. and she's in a league of her own. the 13-year-old girl who is playing ball with the boys. the record breaker joins us live from williamsport next. ♪ ♪ ir is perfect. so's his serve. but like up to 90% of us, jim falls short in getting important nutrients from food alone. jim, here's $2 off one a day multivitamins to get key nutrients you may need. go to oneaday.com for savings. starts at 6:30 a.m. - on the (vo) rush hounose.und here but for me, it starts with the opening bell. and the rush i get, lasts way more than an hour. (announcer) at scottrade, we share your passion for trading. that's why we've built powerful technology to alert you to your next opportunity. because at scottrade, our passion is to power yours. quick headlines now. the owners of the empire state building refuse to go honor children's cancer research. the web site claims it doesn't award honorary lightings for political issues. last night it was lit up in blue to lure the 2016 democratic national convention to new york city. and germans claiming responsibility for the mysterious brooklyn bridge flag swap. two artists providing the new video and other details they say they did it to honor the bridge's famed german born engineer, the nypd calling it a credible lead. i believe that's called a confession. >> i believe you're right. well, she is not your average 13-year-old. she just pitched a shut-out game thanks to her 70 miles per hour fast ball, taking her team to the little league world series. the teenage pitching phenomenon joins us now. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> congratulations. how long have you been playing baseball? >> for about five or six years now. >> i mean, it's outstanding. does it hit you the way it hits everybody else, no pun intended -- that you are the 17th girl to go to the world series. it happens on friday. but you as a girl on the mound taking your team to the victory, do you like that that's a big deal? >> i didn't really consider it as a big deal 'cause it's just a regular game to me, win or lose. it was really honorable to make it this far. it wasn't really a big deal, but then when we won, that was a huge deal. it was very exciting and it was a lot of emotion going. it was kind of crazy. >> so looks like you have -- we talked about your 70 miles an hour fast ball. looks like you have some really good breaking ball. but how did you learn all these pitches? who is your mentor? >> my catcher, scott, he also pitches sometimes and he helps me out a lot. but his dad, steve, he's been my coach for a while now. so between those two people, they're really good mentors to me and they always teach me a lot about the sport to make me better and to make each other better. so been those two people for a long time now. >> game is friday. it's the world series for little league. outstanding. you're going to have something in your back pocket, i hear. what do you keep there? >> i keep a bunch of change in my back pocket. >> to help you out, give you good luck? >> yes. >> quick question, what about a typically, i don't know, more female friendly sport like soccer, no? >> should i give him a little hit right here, like a little punch for saying that? >> i play soccer actually, but i don't consider it as my favorite sport. >> do you think you could strike eric out? >> now, there is a challenge. you think so? >> yes. >> allall right. i'm up for that. >> i think you're incredible. we wish your team the best of luck on friday. little league world series, watch out. 70 miles an hour fast ball is coming your way. have fun. >> thank you. >> have fun. good luck. >> i'll take care of this guy four. police need to see your driver's license to keep up with you on the road. but do we need this for the internet, too? is that another invasion of our privacy? that's coming up next you do a lot of things great. but parallel parking isn't one of them. you're either too far from the curb. or too close to other cars... it's just a you rip some guy's bumper off. so, here are your choices: take the bus. or get liberty mutual insurance. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. call liberty mutual insurance. fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies, and never any by-products or fillers. wow! being a cat just got more enjoyabowl. fancy feast broths. wow served daily. >> the third iraq war already begun? general jack keane says it has as we drop bombs and ups the numbers of the u.s. military on the scene. so what comes now? and new video shows isis followers vowing to cut america in two. just how bad is the obama-clinton relationship? eye opening insight as they prepare to meet tonight on martha's vineyard. breaking news when bill and i join you at the top of the hour. access to a project genesis summary. >> identify for retina scan. >> kirk, admiral james t. >> security approved. >> wow. seemed to work for them. could that be the future of computer passwords? maybe. earlier this month russian hackers stole private information from 1 billion people on the internet. americans. now experts are look for new ways to secure your information, including biometrics. here to explain cyber security expert mark rash. first off, how outdated is the password system? >> we've been using passwords to identify people for 50 years. so it's really not a very good system because people have to remember so many passwords and they're so susceptible to being stolen. >> i can't remember one from then. i swear i'm going to remember them. the next day i get up it's gone. two out of every three-day at that breaches involve the exploitation of weak or stolen passwords. so passwords one, two, three is not screwing up the would be hackers. >> what the hackers do is steal a database of encrypted passwords. they'll run the dictionary attack. they'll take every word in the dictionary, run it against the encrypted pass words and figure out which ones are actual words. >> what about the white house's solution to possibly use your driver's license? >> it's not really a driver's license. the idea is that you've already proven to somebody when you get a driver's license or some authentication document that you are who you say you are, so that somebody will come by and say, look, this person really is mark rash. this person really is brian kilmeade and then tell other people that that's who they really are. >> so some other alternatives, 'cause we want to change this system, i believe. i believe europe has a better system than us. you say the phyto alliance offers alternative, including facial and voice recognition. >> there is lots of ways to prove you are you. and typically we talk about what they call two factor or multi factor authentication. in that star trek clip, you hear the computer ask who are you and he says kirk and they look to the retina to say who he really is. that's two different things. that's multi factor authentication. gate analysis, how you walk, how you talk, eye retina scanning, fingerprints. >> all right. the white house system centralizing all the user names and passwords, that doesn't excite you, right? >> not at all. what you don't want to have happen is you don't want a centralized database of these biometrics. first of all, if it's compromised, it's really hard to get a new finger or new eyeball. just not easy to do. but the second thing is, if you have strong identity management, people know everything that you do on line. and think about represssive governments or even represssive companies using that data to track everything you're doing. >> and you just love the fed rated i.d. system, correct? >> right. it's sort of like this, it's a wallet. so you've got strong i.d., your driver's license. you've got payment systems, your credit cards. and you've got weak i.d.s like your library card. and they all rely on each other. >> if you hack me, you'll be very disappointed. i have no secrets. mark rash, thanks so much. but unfortunately, the russians got 420,000 separate passwords. >> no. about 1.2 billion passwords, of whichly about 500 are separate. >> thanks so much. this is where we're heading. i am dying for a change anyway. more "fox & friends" in just a minute. can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. new fiber one streusel. every style's a showstopper! with fabrics that flatter and prints to go wild for. legs look longer, you look leaner. any way you wear them. chico's leggings. we're famous for our legs. at chico's and chicos.com. so bears are eating people's lunches and brian, you asked if we were running out of woods and that was the reason why. so i checked with the brain room and the answer is no. most recent statistics and facts show we have actually .1% more wood than we had before. >> so my theory of the woods that we're destroying the woods forcing the bears into public is not going to work. i have to come up with another theory? >> they said as more people encroach upon the bears' habitat. >> before i go, i want to say thank you to gabby for yelling in my ear the whole entire three hours to say hurry up. >> who is gavin? >> our producer. >> now we're running out of time. >> i got to meet this gavin. bill: we are sending more personnel to iraq as we get deeper into another mission. 100 additional military personnel and possibly a rescue mission could be next. welcome to america's newsroom. martha: the white house hedging a bit in terms of the language. refusing to call these new personnel troops. they say they are advisers but they will help to rescue thousands of iraqis like the yazidis and christians trapped on sinjar

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spying on other teams. so this guy is just -- you know he let's them do what they want to do just because, again, playing for the new england patriots. >> well, we are letting the air out of "the ed show" tonight. good evening and thanks for tuning in. we start with breaking news. president obama moments ago wrapping up a speech in idaho. the first of two red states he's visiting this week. where he's selling his vision of a stronger more progressive america. after historic state of the union address aimed at shifting the political debate to focus on issues of fairness and equality. >> number one, it means helping working families feel more secure in a constantly changing economy. it means helping folks avoid college and we don't want to make sure that everybody shares in america's success, we actually think that everybody can contribute to america's success. and when everybody is participating and giving it a shot there's nothing that we cannot do. >> it was the same tone the nation heard from the president in his state of the union address where he laid out a progressive agenda for the next two years and beyond. promoting middle class economics, building from the middle out, not the top down. telling republicans who are attacking his policies on immigration and health care lee veto it. and on foreign policy saying that the u.s. must combine military power with strong diplomacy. and his confidence was palpable. dashing any republican hopes that he would roll over as a lame duck president. if you truly believe you can work full wbr id "wbr1383" time and support a family of wbr id "wbr1418" four on $15,000 a year, try it. if not, vote to give the hardest working people a wage. we seek the fastest economic growth in a decade. there's good news wbr id "wbr1583" for you. i have no more wbr id "wbr1618" campaigns to run. my only agenda -- i know because i won both of them -- [ applause ] that last line was the president drop the mike moment. driving more traffic on twitter /b than any other. and in his final two years, president obama is trying to shift the debate to focus on a progressive legacy for america. and today in idaho, he demanded that republicans step up and work with him for the good of the country. >> watching last night, some of you may notice republicans were not applauding for many of these ideas. they were kind of quiet. my job is to put forward what i think is best for america. the job of congress then is to put forward alternative ideas but they've got to be specific. it can't just be "no." i just want -- i'm happy to start a conversation. tell me how we're going to do the things that need to be done. tell me how we get to "yes." i want to get to "yes" on more young people being able to afford college. i want to get to "yes" on more research and develop funding. i want to get to "yes" for infrastructure for our businesses to succeed. i want to get to "yes" but you've got to tell me. work with me here. work with me. >> joining me now is congresswoman karen bass democrat of california and salon.com's joan walsh. thank you both for being here. >> thanks for having us. >> congresswoman, it's an energized confident phone from the president. how much pressure is on the republicans to help the president get to "yes"? >> well, i think there's a lot of pressure because, as you recall in his speech yesterday he really didn't put forward specific pieces of legislation. he talked about values he talked about you know the american dream. he talked about things that were very hard to disagree with. and so it was kind of interesting and we kept looking over at the republican side wondering how they could not stand up when you're talking about equal pay for women, how you couldn't stand up when you're talking about education, k through 14. so i think my republican colleagues had a difficult time last night. >> you know joan here's what you wrote about the president's speech. let me quote you to you. >> thank you. >> president obama delivered his second to last state of the union address with an epic combination of sweet talking and trash talking, cajoling and trolling. anyone who tuned in expecting a conciliatory lame duck president was disappointed. to what degree can the president's confident and bold demeanor galvanize republicans, joan? >> i think people were really excited to see this president. i do believe we caught him in a fib, though. i hate to be the one to say it. because he said he had run his last campaign. he has not. that is him on the campaign trail today. he's going to campaign for these ideas and his agenda and the democratic party is going to be a lot stronger for it. you know the president wbr id "wbr3779" says there isn't a liberal america or conservative america. listen. over the past six years, wbr id "wbr3859" the pundits wbr id "wbr3866" have pointed out more than once that my presidency hasn't delivered on this vision. how ironic that politics wbr id "wbr3950" seem more divided than ever wbr id "wbr3979" but i think the cynics are wrong. i still believe that we are one people. i wbr id "wbr4059" still wbr id "wbr4066" believe that together we can do great things even when the odds are long. [ applause ] wbr id "wbr4150" you know, congresswoman, i said last night when i heard him /b uttering those words that i remember in '04 -- and i ran for president in that convention -- but last night it was even more powerful because here's a man who has been the subject of more unfair venomous attacks and yet he still believes in that necessary average. >> absolutely. >> it took a new kind of strength last night. >> i absolutely agree. i think he put out a program. he put out a series of ideas that really resonate with the american people. you know after the address, rev, i went to my office and i did a telephone town hall. i talked to thousands of residents from my district and people completely identified with his message and asked me repeatedly, what can we do to make these ideas policy and bills that he can sign so that we can have education k through 14. we know we have a big problem in our country with a lot of positions that we can't fill because we don't have people with the skills. so having education k through 14 will absolutely make a big dechbs in difference in that. >> joan, how do you feel about this optimism that all he's gone through unfairly, everything unimaginable, some things i couldn't even imagine, yet he's still optimistic. >> i think history's going to look back and agree with you, rev, that this president has suffered so much disrespect and yet he does keep that vision. i love hearing representative bass talk about k through 14. i think our kids are going to talk about k through 14 not k through 8 or 12 but k through 14 is going to be the norm. he's laying out what should be the new norms and progress selfive agenda. he's got to have some help on the other side. he's not going to get it. >> congresswoman, a new poll finds that the majority supports president obama's proposal. 51% back the community college, 58% support the tax plan and give the middle class a break and 66% support his proposal on paid sick leave. i mean this encouraging if the congress listens to the pope. >> we wouldn't even think twice about education and having to pay through education k through 12. so why can't you add two more years? i actually remember in california when it was free. that was about 20 years ago. so this is not really a new idea. and so the idea that we should go back to that i think is exactly what is needed in our country. >> joan, isn't he really pushing, though the agenda? i mean even republicans now are talking about income inequality and fairness. >> he is. i think that the -- it's good. it's a good thing. let's give them credit for acknowledging that there really is a problem where some people haven't kept up and wages have been stagnant for a lot of american families under the trickle down policies that they have embraced and they have nothing more than trickled down. i know joni ernst was trying to show us that she's a regular person with bread bags on her shoes but regular people need more than bread bags and it's all insanely popular with the american people. >> joan let me ask you, right away we see them go back and do things that just to me smacks of the ultimate trying to be disrespectful. the speaker, john boehner, inviting prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu, to address the congress about new sanctions on iran, which breaks all protocol. usually the head of state invites the head of state. >> it's really shocking. i mean i'm not that old but as far as i know, it's unprecedented and it is a kind of disrespect that i just cannot imagine a democratic speaker, nancy pelosi inviting a head of state to address the congress under george w. bush. i mean my brain just won't even get around that idea that she would show any president that kind of disrespect. so when i heard this i wasn't sure it was true. i really -- it really is that bad. >> well i can say this as i've said throughout the last several years, it's one thing to disagree with the president, it's another thing to undermine a presidency. if you believe in the republic why would you do anything that would desecrate the highest officer in the land. congresswoman karen bass and joan walsh, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks for having us on. straight ahead, what republicans stood for last night. and it wasn't much. plus a major controversy erupts in the sports world. did the patriots cheat to get into the super bowl? 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how are you? aleve, proven better on pain. we've heard a lot of talk from republicans that they want a compromise. but their actions seem to say the opposite. just check out how they wbr id "wbr10323" responded to the president at last night's state of the union. in the past year alone, about 10 million americans gained the security of health coverage. 10 million more people insured. but speaker boehner doesn't think that's the reason to clap. and wbr id "wbr10523" that wasn't all. this congress still needs to pass a law that makes sure a woman is paid the same as a man for doing the same work. speaker boehner won't applaud equal pay wbr id "wbr10689" either. and his members all stayed in their seats. what about minimum wage? you truly believe you can work full time and support a /b family on less than $15,000 a year? try it. if not, vote to give millions of the hardest wbr-id "wbr10889" working people in america a raise. a huge cheer from democrats and the president's cabinet. while republicans just stood in their shoes. but even that wasn't the worst disgrace that we saw last night. one of the first lady's guest was an undocumented college student who is benefiting from the president's executive action on immigration and republican congressman steve king sent out this tweet about her. "obama preverts prosecutorial discretion by inviting a deportable to sit in a place of honor at the state of the union with first lady." that kind of smear has no place in our politics. the american people don't want insults. they want solutions. and instead of sitting on their hands, republicans should be reaching out across the aisle. joining me now is congresswoman january schakowski. how can they allow that in the party and then claim that they want to work on issues like immigration? >> well two things. first of all, steve king is notorious for that sentiment. of course this young woman was what we called a dreamer. she was given protection against deportation, allowed to give a driver's license deferred action on deportation in this country. but number two, this really is the republican policy because they offer it and passed an amendment to the homeland security bill that actually would have rolled back this deferred action for our young people who came here as children with no choice of their own and have really grown up as americans and representing the view of the majority of the republicans who voted for that amendment. >> congresswoman, help me out here. there were two official responses from the gop to the state of the union. and one was in spanish, the other in english. in the spanish language response the congressman said that the party would work to quote, create permanent solutions for our immigration system. in the english language version, nothing on immigration. i mean was it just lost in translation? >> oh no. joni ernst who gave the official -- there were about five relies. >> this was the same speech. one in english and one in spanish. >> and reported to be the exact translations. but joni ernst left those words out but in the spanish version they talked about as if they wanted to do something about immigration reform. and how much more cynical can you get than that? they wanted to actually tell something that was just not true. the republican party is so far from wanting to do anything about immigration but they wanted to pander to the special language listeners. >> now, some of the republicans who responded last night were actually talking about fairness and income inequality and struggling americans. take a listen to this. >> we see our neighbors agonize over stagnant wages and lost jobs. >> income inequality is worsened under this administration and tonight president obama offers more of the same policies policies that have allowed the poor to get poor and the rich to get richer. >> so apparently they want to talk about it but they don't want to do anything about it like voting for minimum wage. >> exactly. the nerve of them to say that it's because of president obama whose policies they defied at every single turn. anything that would lift people out of poverty that would bolster the middle class they were opposed to. despite them the economy has begun to take off and wages are even beginning to creep up a bit. but they have been against all of the policies and, of course when he presented some ideas last night, instead of offering any ideas of their own, they said no. no no and no. >> i'm out of time but i want to mention, i read an op-ed that you wrote about raising the millionaire tax. >> yes. there are tax brackets leading up to $400,000 and nothing after that. so if you make $400 million, you're still in the same tax bracket as someone who makes 400,000. yes, reverend there are people who make $1 billion a year in the united states of america and they should pay a higher tax. >> congresswoman schakowsky thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you so much. the controversy over the super bowl. did the team cheat on its way to the big game. and comments from vice president biden leaving the door wide open for 2016. but first, the flub by senator cruz that he didn't want you to see. that's next. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? 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>> republicans are mad because the tea party has been targeted by the -- excuse me. the irs. all republicans want to do is spout conspiracy -- i'm sorry. oh, i'm sorry. excuse me. conspiracy theories. >> that's enough of that. so senator cruz let me offer some help. some teleprompter tips. tip number one, take it in stride. mistakes happen but it's always better to just keep going. and we all know you like to read. it might not be green eggs and ham but for number two, always have a hard copy of your script in hand. and i'm on live where you take your speech. last night, you taped it so here's tip number three and it's a basic one. make sure you upload the right clip to youtube. but you know what else you should start looking over? the rest of the speech. >> the president tried to paint a a r. so rosy picture. >> let me start over. >> i guess 58 straight months of private sector job growth is doom and gloom for the economy? and i guess the uninsured rate at a record low is a train wreck? and that unconstitutional amnesty is actually a very constitutional executive action helping nearly 5 million people. does senator cruz think we wouldn't notice his policy flubs are far worse than his video flub? my response to that is right in that prompter. it says we got you. wait. let me start over. we got you again. you listen. you laugh. you worry. you do whatever it takes to take care of your family. and when it's time to plan for your family's future we're here for you. we're legalzoom, and for over 10 years we've helped families just like yours with wills, living trusts and more. visit us today for legal help you can count on. legalzoom. legal help is here. ♪ with the incredible fuel efficiency of 38 miles-per-gallon highway you can feel like royalty in the nissan altima. now, get great offers on the 38 mpg highway nissan altima. nissan innovation that excites. what makes thermacare different? two words: it heals. how? with heat. unlike creams and rubs that mask the pain, thermacare has patented heat cells that penetrate deep to increase circulation and accelerate healing. let's review: heat, plus relief, plus healing, equals thermacare. the proof that it heals is you. a super bowl size controversy is grabbing headlines nationwide. did the new england patriots cheat to get in the big game? it's known as deflate-gate. they are accused of taking air out of the footballs in the game against the colts. espn reports that 11 out of the 12 footballs were two pounds of air pressure short of the league's standing. some sports analyst say a deflated ball is easier to grip especially in the rain. the nfl tells us their review is continuing and they will provide an update as soon as possible. patriots' coach bill belichick says he's cooperating with the investigation but that investigation continues and there are many questions left unanswered. who did it who ordered it and who might have known about it? joining me now is randall hill and huffington post sports columnist jordan schultz. thank you for your time tonight. if true is this cheating? >> you know it's really strange but it kind of reminds me of back in the day with watergate, you know the patriots are going to win the game anyway just like nixon is going to win so why do we stoop to these levels? >> obviously the greatest nfl player ever tweeted -- greatest player ever tweeted this. 11 of 12 balls underinflated. can anyone spell cheating? >> without a doubt, that's definitely an added advantage for the receivers and for the quarterbacks and it's going to waken some of the eyes who gambled on this game legally and illegally. it's going to have people right the wrong. >> i asked tom brady about this controversy monday morning before the espn report came out and listen to what he said. >> some reports post-game last night that the league is looking into that the patriots, your team, were deflating the balls within the game. have you heard about this story? do you know the story i'm talking about? >> no, i don't. >> would you care to tell me if you were deflating balls then? >> no. i have no idea. >> did you get the sense that you were able to grip the ball better than the colts last night? [ laughter ] >> would you care to weigh in on that? >> i think i've heard it all at this point. oh god. >> we were trying to figure out whose job it is to take the air out of the ball. i'm pretty sure it's jonathan kraft. >> nobody's. >> jordan your reaction? >> listen bill belichick has been in the news about this before when you look at spy-gate and defensive signals, this hurts the legacy of him. it does not hurt the legacy of tom brady. he's been to a record six super bowls. it's really upsetting because it does impact the integrity of the game. he said the impact of a deflated ball is really not much. it's a personal preference. it's worth noting that andrew luck had his own set of balls. >> i was surprised to learn that both teams use different balls. how did this come about? >> there was an interception and the linebacker and the colts something wasn't right the way that he was able to make that play. and it's ironic because it wasn't a new england touchdown. the super bowl is where each team using the same 12 balls. so it is worth noting that. but i think the bigger question here is roger goodell, what is his responsibility and he wants to be the hammer. this is a time to lay a suspension down. i don't think it's going to happen before the super bowl but at some point bill belichick will be suspended with his draft. >> when you talk about -- you brought it up correctly. there are 12 balls on each side. the fans don't know the offense have their balls on each side and then there's a kicking ball. some of the players have come back and said this is not necessary, when you talk about the integrity of the game just go out there and catch a ball, whether it be all the same balls, all deflated properly. there's no call for this. especially in today's age and with the technology the way it is now. >> when you were playing, have you ever heard anything about this? >> it does happen things like this do happen and you try to play by the rules. you want to play by the rules because you have the fans watching the game and it's all about the integrity of the game. i was a character on the field but i was trying to play within the rules. and playing with deflated balls, no way, because i had dan marino throwing me the ball. >> after the ray rice incident the nfl doesn't need another controversy. >> no. especially after what was one of the best games in history, seattle and green bay. you go into the super bowl with this, this is the last bit of negative pr that the league would want. that's why goodell has a responsibility to do something right for the rest of the league. >> this is an ongoing investigation. we'll certainly be watching it and jordan schultz and randal hill don't worry, i've been called a character before. something tells me we'll both be all right. >> yes, sir. >> thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks for having me. coming up president obama's drop the mike moment. what can we expect to hear in the next two years? is joe biden gearing up for a presidential run even if hillary gets in? and speaking of hillary, who is she impersonating today? conversation nation is next. push your enterprise and you can move the world. ♪ ♪ but to get from the old way to the new you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. hp helps business move on all the possibilities of today. and stay ready for everything that is still to come. ♪ ♪ ♪ you're only young once. unless you have a subaru. 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[ applause ] >> jonathan that was a comeback to remember. what do you think? are we seeing the president break loose a little? >> break loose a little? man, he is off the chain. look, my favorite part was not just the i want both of them it was the quick turn after he said it. i mean that was so cutting, it's fantastic. >> and then the pause and the smile. midwin? >> absolutely. one of the things i love about it is it's accurate. that's why -- >> it wouldn't have had the punch if it wasn't accurate. >> i think that's why it drew the applause that you heard. people recognize that this is a president who is comfortable in his space, in his skin and he you know, rightfully so shows that we have come a long way in the past six years and we'll all recall in 2006, 2009 the sky was falling. the economy was not doing well at all. it was undeniable that we are clearly better off than we were six years ago. >> but julie, and i also think -- i was sitting at this table when i was watching it in the studio last night. i also think it was because the republicans was using a line that he was saying to try and get a little dig at him, clapping that he wouldn't be running again and he turned it up on its own head. i think that's what made it more of a poignant moment. >> president obama is a chess player in the sense that he knows what moves are ahead. he knows when he says that line that republicans are going to make a comment and he nailed it. i can say that president obama has a straight mike drop moment and he does such a great job. >> and it wasn't the first time we've seen him disrespected. >> right. >> we are talking about the state of the union and they call themselves collectively on these -- at least a large number of them. he turned it around and those of us that have been in private meetings with him, and you have jonathan, he has a sharper wit than most people know. the whole world saw it last night. >> that was at the beginning of his term and he turned the other cheek on that. >> right. >> last night, another zinger came at him and he smacked it right back. >> full force. >> and i think that a lot of his supporters and just general americans like that because it was an unnecessary use of applause because he was making a point and then i think that was his drop mike moment. >> that's right. i think in the past he has often come under fire for being sort of reserved and not sort of reacting when he rightfully should react. timing is on his side and oftentimes people say he doesn't act when he should be aggressive and that's why everybody loved this. like you said it was a drop the mike walk off the stage moment. >> it deflates the jeers. >> let me go on to vice president biden. he's making news of his own this morning. he made the morning rounds stumping the policies that the president laid out last night. but might he be stumping for himself soon? >> secretary clinton is lining up staff and support. is there any chance that you're going to challenge her? >> yes. there's a chance. but i haven't made up my mind about that. we have a lot of work to do between now and then. secretary clinton is a really competent and capable person and a friend. the person who is going to be the next president of the united states is the one who is going to be able to articulate the clearest vision to the american people. i don't think you have to make up your mind until the summer. i think there's a -- i think this is wide open on both sides. >> julia, this got my attention. could he challenge hillary clinton? >> oh, absolutely. i think it's funny that we're all shocked about the announcement. he's the sitting vice president. we shouldn't be shocked that he is going to run and he has the name recognition. he could push things forward over the next year and things could take shape, take place. >> jonathan, if he runs he's got a gap to close because according to the recent washington post poll your paper, clinton was the clear democratic front-runner with 61%. biden was at 14% and elizabeth warren at is 3 and bernie sanders at 4. how does he make up that gap? >> it's not a gap. it's a chasm. most people don't know who joe biden is. what we're seeing is an enthusiastic chasm between himself and hillary clinton. they both ran for president in 2008. clearly senator clinton, secretary clinton went a whole lot farther than he did. and i think there's just a thirst and a hunger particularly within the democratic party base for her to run again. one, because half of the base of the party thinks that she lost last time and folks want a woman to get the nomination and to take the white house. >> if he runs though what will he do to the party? if you have a hillary versus biden in the primary, what would that do to the primary? >> it would be interesting to see if he fractures the party. as a sitting vice president, is he the heir apparent and who will president barack obama endorse? hillary clinton or joe biden. i think that's one of the reasons your question is -- >> we know the answer to that question, i think. >> i think the american public is just like i don't know. you know? and i think that's why your question bodes well. it's true. is this something that could fracture the democratic party. >> everyone stay with me. when we come back hillary clinton, the impersonator. that's next. ♪ with the incredible fuel efficiency of 38 miles-per-gallon highway you can feel like royalty in the nissan altima. now, get great offers on the 38 mpg highway nissan altima. nissan innovation that excites. we're back with our panel. i want a show of hands. who here eats while driving the car? >> food? in my car? >> in the back of a taxi? >> you may find yourself slapped with a ticket for distracted driving. that's what happened to madison turner who was ticketed for eating a cheeseburger while driving. >> the officer said to me that i wasn't speeding or drivinger erratically. i was extremely careful and did not get a bit of mustard on my shirt. >> midwin legal or out of line? >> i think it's out of line. i would understand why he would want to give a ticket to someone distracted. when you're operating a motor vehicle, obviously you have to make sure that you're abiding by the rules and not distracted. but the problem is, this becomes a slippery slope thing. if you're going to ticket someone for eating while driving, what if they are admonishing a child, what if a woman is applying makeup? at what point does this stop is the problem. and was the person truly distracted? >> but you raised your head. maybe you're a little biased midwin. >> i raised my hand this way. >> a law may be ticketed a woman putting on makeup while driving, that should be a ticketable offense. >> women know how to multitask. >> because i know how to multitask. that's how. >> let me move on to hillary clinton, julia. we all know comedians love impersonating her. >> thank you for coming. i love your outfit. >> well, i love your outfit but i do want the earrings back. [ laughter ] >> do i really laugh like that? >> but today the tables were turned at a speech in canada clinton was asked if she had plans for 2016 and instead of answering she did a vladimir putin impersonation. >> if for some reason you decided to be leader of the united states or actually run for that because there is a process. >> yes. there's a process. >> and you got elected and people said you know what -- >> you can imagine the conversation with putin, prime minister after he was president and then one minute said vladimir, do you think you would like to be a president again? i think i would, actually. why don't we just announce it. we'll tell demetris that he can be president. >> jewelulia how do you rate her president putin? >> i think it's lighthearted and fun. she's known for being more stiff and not as fun and i like it. >> people said it sounded like she was impersonating bill clinton. >> exactly. i think her putin impersonation needs improvement but showing her light side her funny side which, again, you get to see her real personality, that's her. she's a fun, lighthearted person who is quick with a joke great sense of humor but her i am persian nation impersonation skills needs some work. >> she has a sense of humor and she's on top of what other world leaders are doing or what have you. i don't have a problem with it at all. >> i have to go. i wonder if putin liked the impersonation. when we come back, five years ago today our tollpolitics changed forever. we're following the money. next. natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? it's red, white and blue. log on to learn more. they're still after me. get to the terminal across town. are all the green lights you? no. it's called grid iq. the 4:51 is leaving at 4:51. ♪ they cut the power. it'll fix itself. power's back on. quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids make the world predictable. thrillingly predictable. five years ago today the supreme court handed down a decision in the citizens united case dramatically changing the political landscape. >> the u.s. supreme court today overturned laws on the books for nearly a century and ruled that corporations can spend freely now on political campaigns. those who liked this decision say it's a victory for free speech. those who don't say campaigns will now be drowning incorporate cash and influence. >> the critics have been proven right. this chart shows outside spending in midterm elections since 1990. look how it exploded in 2010 when the citizens united decision was made. in presidential elections, the numbers are even worse. outside spending exploded to just over $1.2 billion in the last election. and look at this. last year the top 100 donors to super pacs spent almost as much as all 4 poen 75 million small donors combined. 100 people spending as much as millions. conservatives claiming they don't like activist judges until the judges make decisions they agree with. until those judges tap campaign finance laws or cut the voting rights act. we must fight this battle on the bench and at the ballot box. that's why we must vote and come out. we cannot let money dominate american politics.

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we talk about the friends, the family we lost. >> donna says avoid anything that might suggest slipping the channel away from the game. >> to our families, we love you. happy thanksgiving. "fox & friends" starts now. >> hi everybody. good morning. happy thanksgiving. today is thursday, the 27th of november 2014. i'm anna kooiman. shocking images emerge of ferguson, missouri before and after the darren wilson decision. buildings leveled. but hopes rising from the ashes. a woman whose business was looted gets a $200,000 thanksgiving miracle. >> i'm so grateful. if i could have arms big enough, i would hug each and every last one of them. >> more as we are live in ferguson this morning. >> you plan on shopping today? >> no! >> anna! a list of stores that are open and a list of stores that are closed. the great shopping debate will unfold here on "fox & friends." retailers should take a back seat to family time? we'll ask that question. >> good morning. what if this happens to you? >> last-minute tips and tricks from a butterball expert. no matter what happens today in your kitchen, mornings are better with friends. >> wishing everybody a healthy and happy thanksgiving. >> thank you, joel. [turkey gobbling] >> i didn't know a turkey could jump that high. good morning. welcome to "fox & friends" on this thursday morning. we're getting all festive. >> what is that smell? it smells amazing. >> deep fried turkey in the studio this morning. >> turkeys can fly. >> can they? >> they can jump and fly. >> rick is here this morning. nice to see you. brian, elisabeth and steve are enjoying their thanksgiving. we've got a jam-packed show. rick, are you a little bit sad you're not at the parade? >> i've done it for eight years, it's one of my favorite things. but i am grateful and happy to be here. >> this is the 88th year for the macy's thanksgiving day parade. what an american tradition. it wouldn't be thanksgiving without the big parade, so there she is. >> good morning. rick, maybe you can meet me here for a little bit. we're not too far away from you. we're on 77th and central park west, the starting point of the parade, the macy's thanksgiving day parade. we expect a nice day. temperatures a little bit on the chilly side. we had a nor'easter move from the northeast. we're not looking at too much in the way of precipitation. however it is a chilly day. current wind chill temperatures in the 20's. 28 degrees is what it feels like. as far as the parade goes, we're expecting six new balloons. we're looking at five new floats that will be marching in the parade. that is in addition to marching bands, cheerleaders, dancers, singers and clowns that will be joining us. the temperature when the parade starts should be about 35 degrees. factor in the wind chill and it should feel like the low 30's out here. in new york city we had hundreds of thousands of people show up last night because balloons are blown up. they are going to be flying. the winds will not be an issue today. sometimes you hear winds can be a concern gusting over 30 miles an hour. weather conditions across the rest of the country, not bad. a relatively quiet thanksgiving day for many americans. we did have a clipper system move through portions of the midwest. that system is gone. behind it you're looking at temperatures that are chilly. 20 for chicago. teens for the city of fargo. out west across parts of the rockies, especially the northern rockies, that's where you could be looking at areas of snow. overall take a look at this weather picture. sunny conditions across parts of the south and also the southwest. a quiet thanksgiving day, something to be thankful for. let's head back to the studios. >> thanks, maria. >> everybody today is on the road and you want the weather to be looking good for -- >> 3,000 flights canceled yesterday. unbelievable the amount of people that were hampered by that big storm yesterday. favorite balloon? >> spiderman or -- >> sponge bob is awesome. >> i live right where the balloons are blown up. it happens where i live. the day before thanksgiving about 300,000 people come up there, and it is one of the worst days to live right there. but you get to see all the balloons and sponge bob square pants, held down by a net. >> can't wait until he gets to fly. >> he wants to be let loose. >> a lot big stores open tonight. you've eaten all the turkey, hung out with the family and maybe you want to get up and go to a store. now more and more retailers are getting on to the band wagon of opening their doors on thanksgiving day. >> we've got a list of 14 major retailers that are open if you're one of those folks that as soon as the pie has settled you're ready to hit the retailers. target, macy's, kohl's, j.c. penney's, best buy, toys 'r' us. and the list goes on. >> it was just a couple of years ago when the first big department store decided to be open on thursday and so many have come in line right after. some of them are saying we're not going to do this. some who are not going to be open, the american girl store, barnes & noble, bed, bath and beyond and dillard's. dillard's made a point to say we are not going to be open. >> they basically said we think this is going to make our employees feel very valued. they're going to be better employees to us. treat the customers better. wield the spokesperson for dillard's -- we had the spokesperson for dillard's on yesterday. this is what she had to say. >> this is the right thing to do for them, allowing them this time off with their families on this special day to take a breather before things get really busy. we just believe that if we honor our associates, in the long run they will honor our customers as well. >> some retailers on the other end are saying thanksgiving is falling late this year, which always shortens their season because black friday being the busiest shopping day of the year, if that falls late in november that shortens their peak time. every year that thanksgiving falls late, they're praying it's going to be a good year. >> are your parents open today? >> they're not. >> tomorrow will be -- >> you spend all day with the family and get the in laws in -- by the way, we have great tips on how to survive that later on in the show this morning. but you're crammed in there, cabin fever all day. i know the feeling. when i was growing up just want to get out of the house a little bit. >> a lot of places are going to be open. there's also some states that are saying maybe we should put some rules in place and set some laws up. an ohio congressman decided to introduce a bill. he thinks they should not be allowed to. but if they're going to, there should be some monetary incentive. so he says that he believes there should be triple pay. >> triple pay -- >> that's why a lot of people like to work on the holidays. double pay. what is it? time and a half? >> time and a half. >> i'm looking at our camera guy. >> the congressman in ohio that wants to do this he basically met a woman and her mother last year, an 82-year-old mother, both of them had to work on the holiday and felt bad about it. he said can't there be just one day that's carved out of this consumer, imperialistic society that we're living in? >> there is one day. it's called christmas. >> on the other hand, people love black friday. it has become a family tradition. they map out which store they're going to hit. >> i think my wife hit target at midnight one year. i said really? >> door busters. >> there was no one there. she got all her shopping done. let's check in with ainsley. have you done all your shopping? >> i've done a lot of it. while y'all are talking i'm offense at the computer. >> shopping. >> while you're at the mall you can shop for obamacare this year. black friday is the biggest shopping day of the year. malls in eight different states will see health care navigators handing out fliers trying to get people to enroll. certain websites will be pushing insurance. even though there are massive deals on other products, obamacare, however, will still come at a full price. extreme weather heading out this thanksgiving, which is great news. prayers are answered for that. flights are back on track and roads are cleared after a nasty nor'easter caused travel nightmares for millions of americans. nearly 700 flights were canceled and thousands more delayed. the snow, sleet and rain also causing hundreds of accidents across several state including about 200 accidents in new jersey and more than 100 in connecticut. new overnight, passengers sent into panic mode when their plan is forced to make an emergency landing on the busiest travel day of the year. the united flight was heading to chicago when the indicator light went on in the cockpit. there was a problem with the landing gear. pretty scary. the pilot turned that plane around to wichita where it landed safely. the 42 people on board were able to get on another flight to their designation. a different kind of executive action making headlines at the white house this thanksgiving. >> today i'm taking an action fully within my legal authority, the same kind of action taken by democrats and republican presidents before me, to spare the lives of two turkeys. >> president obama pardoning the two turkeys. he names them mack and cheese. cheese took the top honor in an on-line poll. sasha and malia joined their dads but they kept their distance from the turkeys. the turkeys will live out the remainder of their days at a place called turkey hill in virginia. and those are your headlines. >> they've got shuffle board there. lovely. new video out of los angeles. a massive mob of ferguson protesters filling the streets in los angeles. police arresting 100 people there. >> we're live in ferguson where protesters were a bit calmer last night. good morning, dominick. >> no major confrontations last night on what was a majorly cold evening. we saw just two arrests which is an extreme change in the environment we saw just two nights ago. i'm standing in front of the ferguson market and liquor. about an hour ago we had the national guard standing outside here. they moved off. nobody has come. i think that is an indication of how calm things have become here. we can show you new video what happened precisely during the second looting of this store a rioters fled inside the building. they started a fire and believe it or not, a woman inside the store, a customer there, grabbed a carton of milk, poured it over the flames preventing the market from being burned down. we can show you what happened to businesses that were burned down during the rioting. one is a beauty parlor. another is an auto parts store. another is a title loan store. authorities here are gearing up for more protests on thanksgiving day because people are actually off. but you get a sense that it's going to be a much calmer, a much more tamer day or so ahead of us. one of the reasons for that is is it's going to remain cold. people also a sense of fatigue. we're going to see warmer weather over the weekend, about 54 degrees. the sense is more people could come out and there could be more confrontation then. back to you guys. >> thanks, dominick. it is a stunning reversal. senator chuck schumer says his party blew it when it comes to obamacare. should the president be admitting the same? we'll see if that happens. >> it's a thanksgiving surprise. >> we have a winner. >> holiday fliers making off with a lot more than their bags. it's an awesome story. stick around. >> i want to wish my family and friends in new orleans, louisiana, happy thanksgiving and i'll be thanksgiving and i'll be home soon.how? with heat. unlike creams and rubs that mask the pain, thermacare has patented heat cells that penetrate deep to increase circulation and accelerate healing. let's review: heat, plus relief, plus healing, equals thermacare. the proof that it heals is you. which means it's time for the volkswagen sign-then-drive event. for practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a german-engineered volkswagen. like the sporty, advanced new jetta... and the 2015 motor trend car of the year all-new golf. if you're wishing for a new volkswagen this season... just about all you need is a finely tuned... pen. hurry into the sign-then- drive event and get a five-hundred- dollar black friday bonus on select new volkswagen models. black friday bonus offer ends december 1st. is a really big deal.u with aches, fever and chills- there's no such thing as a little flu. so why treat it like it's a little cold? 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let's ask republican strategist and former congressional candidate from georgia westin wallop. why is chuck schumer saying this now right before thanksgiving? >> i think thanksgiving, republican or democrat, we ought for thankful for anyone willing to break the script. i think on this specific issue this is what he feels like. i think there are people like senator schumer who want to be relevant beyond the president's political career and are willing to call a spade a spade now. >> anything out of a politicians mouth is always to me calculated. he's reading off notes as he's standing at the national press club. he was on the front lines in 2008 and 2009 praising obamacare. what changed? >> i think he's one of the few people in washington -- i mean this -- who is willing to admit a mistake. i wish on my side of the aisle that speaker boehner would admit that last year it was probably a mistake not to allow a vote on the house floor on the senate version of the immigration bill. i think we probably would have never seen executive action from the preresident had speaker boehner done this. it is a healthier refresh for american politics for people at the top every once in a while to admit they might have made a mistake. >> he's really saying the president missed an opportunity to go after the recession straight on. when americans were calling for jobs, jobs, it was the president's mistake to be focusing on health care, health care; right? >> where senator schumer deserves some credit is he apparently hears from the american people even in the state of new york things that the president is not yet hearing. that is for six years the vast majority of the mimgdz mimgdz -- middle class feels this administration is focused on small minorities. they spent six years spending a tremendous amount of energy to give health care coverage to nine million people. hundreds of millions of middle class, or tens of millions of middle class americans feel sort of lost and like they've got no support in the administration. >> nancy pelosi disagrees. she says there are 14 million reasons why chuck schumer is wrong on this now that they have insurance. thanks for getting up early with us. coming up, the president grants millions of illegals amnesty. now they may be taking our jobs. the incentive to hire them over americans that will have you furious. today we give thanks. it turns out it's not only good for your soul but it could save your life. dr. ratcliff is here to explain. ♪ ♪ what makes thermacare different? 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>> when we have more positive emotions we decrease our stress. studies have shows people who have a more grateful attitude about life in general take better care of themselves and are more likely to eat healthy, exercise and see their physicians. >> those things help us have a better immune system, fight off the flu. >> when you decrease stress our body is able to better suit itself against invaders like germs. >> smile more often and be more pleasant to be around keeps depression away. >> absolutely. when we feel positive we increase our levels of dopamine and serotonin. those are the hormones released when we take antidepressant medication. so we can incorporate this in overall treatment when we are depressed. >> we can create the same chemicals we would be taking in a pill, we can do it in our mind? >> absolutely. >> change your attitude. it's also a brain booster. this goes from high schoolers up to the elderly. >> for elderly americans thinking about your blessingsant counting what you're grateful for can help decrease dementia. teenagers, it shows they have higher g.p.a. and you can shift to the head of the class. >> then you can get into a great college and mom and dad will be happy too. attitude of gratitude, good tip. 28 after the top of the hour. coming up, how does this sound? 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>> i'm a puppet. we are thankful for them. i'm thankful for my lovely family and working with you guys this morning. >> you have a big monument. >> my parents are here visiting for thanksgiving week. i'm thankful for that. also, i paid off my student loan this week. i am 45 years old and finally paid it off. >> you've been talking about this for a long time. >> i am so incredibly thankful that now that is done. the first time really as an adult i will have no debt. >> can you believe the younger generation. you're 45 and you were paying like triple every month. >> i'm thankful for being able to get home weekends ago. one of my friends got married. she married a sailor and is being deployed. we had an early thanksgiving with family. >> as we get older thanksgiving don't necessarily happen on those days. they happen when you're able to be home with the family. >> we want to know from you what you're thankful for. go to our facebook page and share your thoughts. mark tweets my beautiful fiancee, my family and the green bay packer. >> so thankful for my dog charlie. >> dottie tweets i'm thankful for my granddaughter. >> i'm thankful for our troops who for many will not be home with their family this thanksgiving. >> go to our facebook page, you can also find us on twitter, and send your thoughts as well. >> i'm thankful for delicious deep fried turkey this morning. >> it is about to happen. if you're heading out to the stores this thanksgiving there are no better deals than those at bass pro shops. professional bull rider luke is here with us. >> thanks for having us again. obviously tomorrow is black friday but we want everyone to know we are open today. >> you're one of those stores? >> absolutely. and we have great deals. >> beef jerky, beef jerky is all the rage. >> absolutely. before we get to this stage you've got the grinder. for all the hunters out there and nonhunters you can do anything with this. it will grind, pump it out. you get this under $80. this is under $50. you can make jerky, make your deer into jerky, whatever you want, do apples, anything. >> it all comes as one package? >> right. we sell these at the store. obviously this is professionallally done but you can do this at home. this is under 60 bucks. >> amazing. >> more than that, if you buy all three of these together it is $230. >> that is awesome. >> it is $150 actually so you save a lot. we've got the turkey and obviously we have one made right here. as we get to this, i want to give you a piece of this to let you know -- >> oh man! >> grab these. >> amazing. >> this is a butterball indoor turkey fryer. when i say indoor, there is no open flame whatsoever. you have a timer and you can set this so you don't get in a bind. this is -- you can't screw it up. >> this goes in there? >> yes. >> we have to be honest. it is potentially dangerous deep frying turkey. potentially it is a dangerous thing but this one you say is a safer version of it? >> that's exactly right. as we are lowering this turkey in, inject the marinade right here. we have all these seasonings. after you do that, sprinkle this on. you can never be too generous with that. the more you get on it, the better it tastes. we have all these rubs and spices at bass pro. >> you drop that in there. while you're dropping that in i'm going to eat more turkey. >> you see these gloves but it's very z as long -- very eass long as you're careful. when you're doing these turkeys lower down like so. >> beautiful. it's nice to see they're making these safe. if anybody is at home and you're making these. beautiful. we can't wait to eat this, but we have one already. clayton and anna over to you. this is breakfast, lunch and dinner for me. >> i left my breakfast at home. i did steal cheese and venison meat. >> 37 minutes after the hour. do you have any idea how many calories you're about to consume today? wait because you're about to face a barrage of nutrition information just about everywhere you eat. >> a new wave of federal regulations on all of these calories. doug has already eaten 1,000 calories this morning. >> good morning. these new regulations do not affect the thanksgiving dinner you serve at home, at least not yet. we'll start talking about calories because today is thanksgiving. this is leftover business from obamacare. these new regulations were timed to come out after the midterm election. this requires just about every restaurant, even small chains to analyze every menu item and provide calorie counts. >> movie theaters are included. bowling alleys are included. convenience and grocery stores are included as well as restaurants. basically all the chains that you know and love and frequently dine at will now be required to list calories on the menu. >> more information but that will come at a cost. from calories we'll move to ozone and what could be the most expensive environmental regulations in u.s. history. the obama administration with new proposed rules to reduce air pollution to improve health but they could also cost up to $15 billion. finally, we'll talk about the internet. there's been a lot of talk about net neutrality and whether the internet should be treated like a utility. the f.c.c. will have to decide but the president has weighed in favoring more regulation. one thing to keep in mind, when you look at your phone bill and see those charges, taxes and fees and so on, these are the kinds of fees you may soon see from your internet provider as well if these new regulations go through. back to you guys and happy thanksgiving. >> universal service fund. who knows what this stuff is? doug, great to see you. happy thanksgiving. >> for a look at your headlines, ainsley earhardt is here. happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. i'm thankful to work with you wonderful people. we're glad you're watching. an accused terrorist back on the streets. when no one was looking 18-year-old abdul yousef slipped out the door of a minneapolis courthouse. the teen was arrested in may trying to board a plane to turkey to go fight with isis. he is the first terrorist suspect in minnesota to be released before trial shocking even his own attorney. president obama's executive action put illegal immigrants at the front of the job line? a shocking new report reveals this, that businesses have a $3,000 incentive to hire illegals over american citizens. that's because they say of a kink in obamacare. businesses will not face a penalty for not providing illegals with health care because they're ineligible for the president's health care plan. do they have a prayer? a d.c. based atheist group suing a florida city over organized prayer groups. the suit comes after okala officials invited the community to pray after a drive-by shooting. the atheist group claims that violates separation of church and state. the city's attorney slamming the suit saying the vigil is open to all religions. fliers at jfk airport getting an awesome thanksgiving surprise. >> oh my god, that's my bag. >> we have a winner. one round trip ticket courtesy of jetblue. >> jetblue and zappos turning baggage claim into a prize game. one family winning a trip to bermuda. those are your headlines. fact. when you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. wherever it is. advil stops pain right where it starts. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil. yyou would need like a bunch of those to clean this mess. then i'll use a bunch of them. what are you doing? 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the movie, it is a fantastic movie. it's won a ton of film festival awards. you'll be hearing a lot about it as we get closer to the oscars. the screenplay, a fantastic job of three distinct periods of his life, his boarding school years and later years where he was persecuted for being different. you can catch more of the interviews this weekend by tuning in to the fox business network where they'll be run being back to back war stories at 8:00 and more of my interviews including the director and the star will be playing throughout the evening. >> people should know about him. he was a nerd but we wouldn't have computers if it wasn't for him. >> yeah. amazing. >> thanks, michael. >> president obama and attorney general eric holder calling for social justice in ferguson. but why this case? colonel allen west joins us live. >> what if this happens to you today? >> the latest with tips and tricks in a few minutes. stay with us. ♪ good morning. get ready, it's thanksgiving. are you about to cook that big dinner? don't worry, don't panic. we have got you covered here. >> it's one of my favorite moments of the year, marks the turning of the holidays. here are last minute tips from our butter ball turkey. here is our expert. nice to see you. >> thanks. >> if people are panicking and realize, oh, wait a second, i still have a frozen turkey, what do you do? >> we're going to get them through it. >> can do you it? >> absolutely. we have our cold water thaw it, fill it with cooled tap water, still in the package. not warm. change the water every 30 minutes and we can get it defrosted. let's say off 15-pound turkey, it will take seven hours. but because you've already had it in the refrigerator, it will take 2, 2 1/2 hours because it's already jump started. if not, you can cook them partially frozen, too. >> do you suggest deep friesing a frozen turkey? >> no. not unless you're look for a lot of fireworks. incredibly dangerous. >> you want to get your turkey out and look nice and golden brown. doesn't always happen. we want it to taste good, but you also want it to look good. what's the trick? 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"fox & friends" hour two on this thanksgiving starts right now. >> this is robert davi and you're watching "fox & friends." happy thanksgiving, everyone. ♪ new york, new york ♪ i want to wake up in a city that never sleeps ♪ >> good morning, everyone. happy thanksgiving. the 88th macy's thanksgiving day parade is about to kick off here at new york city. a lot of our viewers have a real distaste for new york. but on this day, absolutely not. it's americana. >> many of our viewers love bass pro shop. they're in the house, they decked out our studio. they've got fantastic deals this morning. we're going to show you all of those greateals. you can head over there tonight when you get tired of cooking. >> if you woke up and think oh, no, my turkey is still frozen, we have a butter ball expert here who can answer all of your questions. go to facebook, twitter or e-mail us and she'll be there and coming up on the show. >> she can save you. it may have snowed last night here in new york city, but the parade must go on n maria molina is live outside in the cold to give us a sneak peek of the 88th annual macy's thanksgiving day parade. it's a great gig. how is it going out there? >> it looks really good out hire. we have a couple of snow showers moving through. so there is some precipitation, a lot of cloud cover. it could be a lot worse. yesterday we had a nor'easter and that storm system is long gone. like you mentioned, live here at the 88th annual macy's thanksgiving day parade. this will be viewed live. so 3.5 million people and more than 50 million people will be watching at home. it's going to be kick off right here on 77th and central park west. you can see right on your screen that map. the route will take you south and eventually down 6th avenue and ending at macy's. it's going to feature more than 8,000 marvers, giant balloon, marchers, several floats, clown, cheerleaders, dancers, and singers. during the overnight hours, more than about several hundred thousand people showed up to watch the balloons filled with air. thankfully the wind will not be an issue, so they will be flying. this is going to be six new giant balloons featured. five new floats featured. that's in addition to last year. and something very interesting as well. there will be a free parade app that fans can download and this actually gives them some information. they can interact with the parade and get some information. so this is going to be really interesting. a bit of a blend using tradition and technology. like i mentioned, the weather conditions not expected to be an issue here in new york city. a little on the chilly side. we have windchill temperatures in the 20s climbing to 31 out there. that's what it feels like here. farther west, take a look at that. minneapolis, it feels like 14 below zero. 12 below in fargo. and precipitation across the country, it is a relatively quiet day. so we are thankful for that. there is some snow falling across parts of the northern rockies. that will be something to watch for. let's head back inside. rick, i saw some snow totals from yesterday's nor'easter, we had more than a foot of snow across parts of virginia, all the way up to new england. a very significant storm. >> absolutely. especially for this time of year. it's hard to get home in the snow, but a lot of people love snow. inside your house and there is snow outside, it's incredible. >> it's beautiful. >> 3,000 delays yesterday, over 700 flights canceled. so it was a real pain. maybe that's what you should be talking about when you sit down and finally get around the thanksgiving table. thank goodness we're here, we're so thankful to be here. new study out this morning on what conversations you should actually avoid at the dinner table. scientists, wearing hats, got together and figured out these are the ones you want to avoid. >> we'll let you weigh in on this. do you agree or disagree? sex and relationships. >> maybe that's one you should start off with. >> how is it? >> what about when the food is bad? >> oh, yeah. >> avoid that. >> just cover it with a roll or something and pretend like you ate it. >> who made this side dish? this is interesting. >> religion. that should seem obvious. >> stay away from religion. >> we'll talk -- father john has a different take. we'll get o that in a minute. stay away from saying things like somebody is hungry. oh, you know, you sure are filling up that plate. aunt janis is hungry. >> she went back for her third helping. >> somebody is hungry. >> the rolls are the ones everyone fights over. a lot of people say that you shouldn't talk about politics and money. >> avoid those conversation. >> we had a panel on the show over the weekend. part of jonathan morris and a couple of relationship experts. they have some ideas on what you should and shouldn't do. take a listen. >> it is a religious holiday. george washington, the declaration -- this is one line. president george washington proclaimed thursday, the 25th of november, 1789, a day of public thanksgiving and prayer devoted to the service of that great and glorious -- >> do you think you can have a conversation about anything, that you have to bring compassion and empathy to the table and make sure you are giving the respect to the people around you. iit's a couple hours of your life. it's not going to change your world if aunt tilley doesn't agree with you. >> if you can't talk about sex, relationships, what someone is eating, politics, religion, the only thing left to talk about is football or the weather. >> football, the weather, and the food. that's all you're allowed to talk about. >> weather is always safe. >> could you talk about obamacare this weekend? on thanksgiving morning, this might be something to gather around your table. the white house is doing a big obamacare push on black friday, on line, you'll go on line to push for the enrollment period right now, as well as going out to the malls. >> a whole group of malls, westfield shopping menopauses rallying these other obamacare health care workers to hand out flyers. as you're shopping for all those door busters, you'll be getting bombarded with these flyers. >> they created these partnerships with certain malls and stores. but also if you go on to facebook, they know who you are and they can target certain ads, they're doing that also. so on line, they're targeting specific people for this and putting those kinds -- >> right. you mention anything about your health, if you had said that on facebook, they might say, oh, you have a sore back? why not get a better premium. you might see an ad for obamacare popping up right in your news feed on facebook. >> also partnering with web sites like the next.com, debunk.com because these events in women's lives in particular, trigger maybe it's time to get new health care. >> what are you going to talk about today at the dinner table? let us know. you can e-mail us and give us some ideas. >> will it be obamacare? give us some safe words. new overnight, a massive mob of ferguson protesters filling the streets of los angeles. police arresting more than 100 people. >> dominic denatale joins us live in ferguson where protests were a bit calmer last night. i guess some of the weather had something to do with that? >> reporter: yeah. dropped to 22. the forecast is saying it felt more like 16. that's an incentive for people not to come out. i want to show you the scene here. the corner of fluorescent and west ferguson. three cop cars at the moment, that's an extra car that appeared in the past hour. we're starting to see police move up and down. a bit more national guard. there were national guard on patrol here two hours ago. they vanished. i think that's a sign of really how things are going to be calm this thanksgiving morning. this is a mile long stretch that's been closed since monday when those hundreds of rioters stormed down here to start looting and burning down those buildings. it's going to be a while before any of those businesses actually open up again. no indication whatsoever just what the financial cost to these businesses is. not just the physical damage, but of course tomorrow we have black friday. you guys were just talking about that. of course, a lot of business there. we're hearing about donations by the community being given to local businesses. i think it shows just how the people of ferguson really are now starting to come together with this. we've got this long weekend coming up. the weather is going to improve. that might bring people back out to the streets. that's something the authorities are very concerned about. back to you. >> thanks. warm up out there. gets get it over to ainsley earhart who is watching the other headlines this morning of the good morning. >> good morning. let's talk about the weather. extreme weather alert, a nor'easter caused travel nightmares for millions of americans. yesterday was the busiest travel day of the year. nearly 700 flights were canceled across the country. 4,000 more were delayed. the snow, sleet, all the rain, also causing hundreds of a stunning new report shows- drones nearly hit commercial planes 25 times in the past six months. in one incident at jfk, a drone came within just one foot of slamming into the wing of a packed plane. the faa says that they do plan to propose regulations on drones before the end of the year. but it could be years before the rules are made final. talk about a special delivery, this texas mom had her newborn baby girl on the highway. the family ran into some serious road construction on the way to the hospital. they hit a road block and then the baby, who she couldn't wait. luckily officer robert scott was there to lend a hand, literally. >> get in, get my hand behind the head and just do a quick inspection, something not everybody is involved with with a life coming into the world. so it's very cool. >> thank goodness he was there. he is actually a former emt. a football feast on the gridiron today. three nfl games to look forward to. first the chicago bears will travel to detroit to play the lions for the early game. then at 4:30 eastern time, the battle between the top two teams in the nfc east, cowboys and seattle. but before you watch the games, help clean up the kitchen. i'm always in the kitchen with my mom. the guys are in the den. honey, can you get me a beer? 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longer sees this level of attention, the justice department will continue to stand with ferguson. we will continue the conversation this incident has sparked about the need for trust building between law enforcement officers and the communities that they serve. >> president obama and attorney general holder calling for social justice in ferguson, missouri. but why this case? why now? colonel allen west says it's all about scoring political points. good morning and thanks for being with us. >> good morning and howdy from college station, texas: happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. so what do you mean this is all about politics? >> well, there is no doubt that it is. as a matter of fact, when you look at all the other cases out there in the reverse, you can go right down to virginia where four black gang members brutally carjacked a reserve police officer by the name of captain kevin quick and killed him, but yet eric holder said the death penalty had to be taken off of that case. we saw out in spokane, washington where two black teen-agers bludgeoned to death a world war ii veteran. nothing said there. in oklahoma, the australian baseball player killed by two biracial teen-agers. the black teen-ager who shot a toddler in the face. nothing done there. and in new jersey, a person killed by a black man stating he was a jihaddist. no emphasis there. the georgia democratic party used mailers to say if you voted for a republican person, you could possibly have a ferguson in the state of georgia. this is all about politics. >> you mentioned it being about politics. we saw al sharpton, many saying he was just agitating the situation and fanning the flames. but people said he was doing that to stay relevant, this is how he makes money. why does the president need to do this? why does eric holder need o do this? >> because for one thing, eric holder said that he is very fine with being an activist and this is their definition of social justice. this is once again being a part of the grievance industry and the race baiting industry that continues to keep the black community in a situation of economic servitude and also it is about lectural votes. the unfortunate thing is that no one is looking at the and the consequences of michael brown, his actions and what it resulted in, ragicly, his death. we really need a discussion in the black community about families, about families being together, about education, about young black men having respect for authority and better jobs and education opportunities. the left, progressive socialist, barak obama, eric holier, they don't want that discussion. >> what also seemed ironic about this is on tuesday, the president spoke out in chicago about the situation going on in ferguson. the violence in chicago, we all know, there has been a huge problem there for quite some time. we have data between through october, there were 331 homicides, just from january to october of this year. january to september, 135 homicides between the ages of 17 to 25-year-olds. so what's the problem? why wasn't this mentioned at least for one or two sentences? >> because that does not fit the narrative. you know that. that does not help them in prom mull gating a message of victimhood. and jesse jackson lives in chicago. where is he on that issue? barak obama is from chicago. where is he on this issue? speaking out about it. it does not help their political agenda whatsoever. so therefore, when you have a trayvon martin case, when you have a michael brown case, that falls into their lap and that gives them that opportunity instead of really focusing on what ails the inner city and the black community, which is the failure of progressive socialist policies. >> colonel, thank you so much for your time today and happy thanksgiving. >> thank you. happy thanksgiving. coming up on "fox & friends," a minneapolis man tried to board a plane to fight with isis and this morning he's walking free? plus, he grew up having to help 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you at old homestead restaurant in new york city. the nine course dinner includes a roasted farm-raised organic turkey stuffed with filet minyon. and sweet potatoes topped with $16,000 caviar. that's where rick is going tonight. finally, 300,000. that's the total cubic feet of helium used by balloons in the macy's thanksgiving day parade. that's enough to fill half a million mylar birthday balloons. they canceled it during world war ii because they needed it for the war effort. over to you, rick. >> growing up in tv and bussed tables to help his single mom support her family of six. he didn't go to college. he tried to start a business and filed for bankruptcy twice. with a lot of hard work, he was able to turn his bad fortunes upside down and now one of the most successful restaurant owners in fellow there and giving back to his community in a big way. the program is called helpings from the heart. eric is here to tell us what it is all about. eric, this is such a great story. how did you get this idea? how long have you been doing it? how many meals will you serve told? >> happy thanksgiving, rick. today we're going to serve 25,000 meals. that's what we're prepared to serve. this is our 22nd year at the salvation army downtown orlando. it's presented by golden corral. >> i read that one year when you were in high school, you went to salvation army for your thanksgiving dinner. how does it feel to be a recipient of the kindness of others and now able to give back to so many? >> yeah, very humbling being able to give back at this size of a thanksgiving feast. but when we were children, that thanksgiving meal at salvation army meant an awful lot to us. we are thankful that we can give back like this today. >> i'm always amazed by people who come from humble beginnings and then can turn their life into something like you've done. you own 32 restaurants now. how did you do that? >> you start out with one and if that's successful, go on to two. after that, you start multiplying it to four, six, eight, ten, 12. we're up to 32 now. golden corral has been an excellent chain to be able to develop and build a wonderful business in. >> when you think about all the opportunities that you have to give back to people, so many people don't have as many means, but what can the average person do today to help others? >> you can give your time, sort of like at our thanksgiving feast, we'll have it where 1,000 volunteers today that make this meal possible for those that are less fortunate than we are. we are very thankful for all these volunteers. many of them have been here for a very, very long time. our chef, jason, has been there for 20 years leading the chef team to prepare this meal. >> i tell you what, congratulations on your success. but thank you today for all you're doing. there will be 25,000 people in florida who will have something extra to be thankful for today. thank you very much and happy thanksgiving to you. >> happy thanksgiving to you, too. 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congratulations. >> another tweet, i'm thankful for my beautiful wife tammy of 25-plus years. >> tracy tweets us, thankful for these two beautiful kiddos. sydney and hudson. adore annual. and on facebook, i'm thankful for the family, freedom, food, friends and i love this one, "fox & friends." >> you get two for the price of one. we are honored you're inviting us into your home and letting us spend time with you. >> i always love doing this thanksgiving show because we have great food, get to enjoy great friends and i know our viewers are waking up this morning preparing with their family. it's comforting to know they're out there watching this morning. they can do nothing else but hang out with their family this morning. >> really true. being thankful is one of those things. we have adiaphora it that we talk about it. but there is a lot of studies coming out that talk about how being thankful is a great way to having a happy and healthy life. >> right. and so the tips for being grateful came from our dr. ratcliffe. she says look at the glass as half full. so if you're struggling with something, count your blessings instead and write them down. she said expressing gratitude is a great thing to do, especially before you go to bed at night. you'll fall asleep faster and have a restful night. >> it will prevent heart attacks. taking the time to pray, to do meditation, to sit quietly and be thankful. we try to ask our son and daughter now when we sit down, what are you thankful for? if they have nothing to say about their day, we'll say, what are you thankful for? that cookie i had earlier. that works. >> they also say it prevents heart attacks. the mental state you have about gratitude can actually have physical healthful benefits. >> and help boost your immune system. especially important during flu season. try to stay happy. >> get rid of depression, anxiety can reduced and ptsd. also boosts your brain when you spend that time being thankful and quiet and reflective. you can actually -- you find you remember things more, have better mental acute. >> right. in the elderly, it helps strengthen their memory n. high schoolers, there have been studies that show you have higher gpas if you're having an attitude of gratitude. >> and the people you like are always happy. here is a pleasant person, she's always sweet and nice, mar know. she's live at the -- maria molina is live at the parade. >> it's a much different scene on 77 and central park west than an hour ago. very quiet an hour ago. we just saw the floats getting ready, the balloons all set up. now we have a lot of people here. i made a friend with a band i found. the drum major, you guys are from utah, right? >> yes. >> and how many members are there in your band? >> there is about 230 of us with us here today. >> how were you able to travel from utah to new york city? >> well, first of all, it's a blessing and opportunity to be here. but we had to send an application and be selected by the community to be chosen from here. >> how did you physically get here? >> we took five different flights. >> wow. so here you go. so we're going to start to hear you play. you're going to play a song for us and so you're the drum major. here is the band and i was a majorette in high school. so i'm going to twirl the baton while you play. what's the song? >> "76 trombones." let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> i had no idea she had that hidden talent. and she's doing that in gloves. >> i always felt nervous for the baton twirlers. because you knew there was that moment they were going to throw them in the air and there was always going to be one that dropped. >> it always made me nervous. >> that's why we watch it. >> that's amazing. >> we could never do that. let's check in with ainsley earhart. she's going to be playing the saxophone. >> yeah, right. i have no talent. she was just getting started. i wanted to see her. let me tell you about the headlines. accused terrorist back out on the streets. when no one was look, the 18-year-old slipped out of a side door of a minneapolis courthouse after being released to his parents. he was arrested in may by the f.b.i. trying to board a plane to turkey to fight with isis. he is the first terror suspect in minnesota to be released before trial. shocking even his own attorney. creed sold 40 million albums world wide. but now the front man says that he's homeless. a rambling new video, he says he's pennyless and the government is after him. >> now i'm living in a holiday inn. by the grace of god, because there has been a couple weeks where i had to sleep in my truck. i had no money, not even for gas or food. >> during that video, the singer says unnamed people stole his money. the video comes just days after his wife, a former beauty queen, filed for divorce. car lovers, look away. you might find these images very disturbing. a dallas man crashing his brand-new vehicle worth more than a million dollars. the 27-year-old driver losing control after hitting a wet spot and he did not even own that car for 24 hours. ouch. it's a video that will warm your heart on the holiday. they became instant best friends. veteran tanya mancini and her new service dog, venus, meeting for the first time. >> i'm super excited. i heard this dog is going to change my life and i know it is. >> mancini spent a year in afghanistan in 2003 and said during her tour of duty, she lived in constant fear. more than a decade later, she still suffers from ptsd. she was chosen by the healing heros program to receive a free service dog. venus is trained to notice if she's about to have a panic attack and can help her calm down. very sweet. those are your headlines. over to you, rick. >> thank you. today kicks off bass pro shop's huge five-day sale and professional bull rider luke snyder is here to show us what you're going to find. welcome back. >> happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. had you have a lot of great deals. >> starting with this. >> you bet. we're open today and we have a huge five-day sale. bass pro shop, these are $10. we have them in every size, youth, ladies, men. >> ten dollars for hoodies? >> can't beat it. >> north face jacket. >> absolutely. north face, great product. we sell these here at the store. you'll get that jacket for under 70 bucks. you got to hurry. >> very good. parka. this is great for skiing and anything outdoor. you got leather going on? >> absolutely. all our pros on our fishing team use it. i personally use it. it's a great rain suit. it will handle everything you got. you get there early, you're going to get both of the jacket and the bibs for under 200 bucks apiece. >> wow. cheap. archery. >> this is a great way to introduce your youth to the outdoors. great for the whole family. this comes with the rest, arrows, a quiver and everything. so this is great. you're going to get that for under 40 bucks. >> i'm giving a test to anna later on to see what the parts are. what else is there? spinning rod and wheel? >> two different options for you. this is actually the turning special. this is a great little rod right here. you're going to save $50 on that and then this rod here is the real deal. you got a spinning base. you'll get this for under 50 bucks, saving $70. we're known for our fishing. >> awesome stuff. we'll have more coming up in the next hour. right now, back over to clayton and an ma. >> thanks. school bans the word christmas because one family complained. one of the thousands of parents fighting to bring it back joins us next. ♪ ♪ >> i want to wish my family and friends in oklahoma, fort sill, happy thanksgiving. i love my family bells ♪ don't miss all the amazing deals at bass pro shops's 5 day sale. like ladies' thermal crews for only $10. save $50 on these ariat men's sahara boots. and save $100 on this ascend fishing kayak. that's all i crave.e that's where this comes in. only nicorette gum has patented dual-coated technology for great taste. 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>> and your whole life, you always wanted to sing. did you have another career path in mind? >> it was only music forever. i was a song writer. then this song happened and i was signed and now i'm singing on floats at the macy's day parade. >> what's your song about? what inspired it? >> all about the bass was about me loving my body, trying to get comfortable in my own skin and it just hit people in a personal place. it spread like fire. >> meghan, thank you for joining us this morning and congratulations on all that you've accomplished at such a young age. now back to the studio. >> thanks so much. no more christmas vacation. one massachusetts school district has been ban -- they just banned the term from every school calendar after one family's complaint. emotions ran high as parents packed the odd store yum, furious over the vote to change the name of the christmas vacation to holiday break. >> for us in all the town, we want christmas back on our school calendar if even one student or family is made to feel excluded, even one, we have not done right by them as a haunts. >> more than 4,000 people signed the petition urging the committee to reconsider. school officials said too bad. elaine taylor is the resident behind that petition and she joins me now. elaine, nice to see you. welcome to the show. >> thank you. nice to be here. >> so what were you fighting for the other night in front of that school board? >> well, i was fighting for a voice to be heard. i was called right before i came here and a woman asked me, she said to me, you are the voice, you're our voice. at this school board meeting the other night, there was no consideration for the voice of those 4,241 signatures that we got. >> so one family complained about the term, christmas break. what was their overall complaint? >> it wasn't a complaint. it was a request. it was just a simple request asking if the school committee could change the name from christmas vacation to holiday break. they said that the name christmas was archaic. with that one request, within just a little over a month, they put it on the school agenda and it was voted on and it was done. >> so you have some of these people now sort of jumping on the band wagon with this one family, saying well, the change to this calendar really symbolizes inclusiveness and diversity. it's not just christians celebrating this break. you have people of the jewish faith celebrating hanukkah. and you have many others celebrating this time of year. why just call it christmas break. that's what they say. what do you say to that? >> well, because it's about diversity. diversity is allowing people to be who they are. it's not to wipe them out. it's allowing them to celebrate and to express their faith. others should be allowed to do the same. it's not to make us clones so that nobody has their heritage, nobody has their traditions anymore. i'm here to hold to those traditions. they're important to us. they're of value to us. it's what our town was built on and it's important. >> well, the school committee chairmanwoman disagrees with you about what your town is built on. i'll read her quote. she said supposedly our whole country is based on religious freedom. i certainly appreciate when people feel very strongly about their religious background, but as a school committee member, my job is to make decisions i believe are in the best interest of our town. what do you say to that? >> well, where is our freedom? where is our freedom in this? we're not having the freedom to express our faith in this. it's being censored out of the community. i feel all too often the elected officials feel like -- they're elected into position and forget who they serve. they serve the people of marshfield and where was the voice of these people, 4231 people, it wasn't heard at the school board meeting. >> you collected more than 4200 signatures right now. they did keep the word christmas on the day of christmas on the 25th. at this hour, they still have removed christmas break. what's the update? are they going to change their mind or sticking with it? >> well, right now they voted no. so the next thing that we could do is to vote no to them as they're trying to be elected again at the -- in may, when their elections come up. >> good luck to you and thank you for joining us this morning. happy thanksgiving to you and have a great christmas as well. >> thank you. thank you so much and it is a tradition, thanksgiving is also a tradition that's something that we hold dear to our hearts. thank you so much. >> absolutely. we appreciate you. coming up here, not sure what to do with your bird? we're talking turkey with the people who know all the tricks. butterball expert answering your questions next. there she is. first on this day in 1901, u.s. army war college was established. in 1924, the first macy's thanksgiving day parade was held in new york city. and in 1983, "all night long" by lionel richie was the number one song in the country. that's joel's favorite song. i'm an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about america's favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal. while you're prepping your thanksgiving dinner but facing last minute problems? back to answer your questions is our butter ball expert. >> have you been getting a lot of questions? >> i have been. there are a lot of common questions. >> what's the number one common question? >> is my turkey thawed? they're worried it's not. they've had it in for the proper amount of time. they feel like it still might be cold. if you just kind of move it around, pick it up, you'll hear the juices and you're good to go. >> we had an e-mail that says i have heard you should cook the turkey breast facing down in the pan for the first hour. is this true? >> we don't recommend it. i'll tell you why. first of all, it doesn't change the flavor at all. we got so many requests through the year on that. i thought i got to try this out. it's really challenging to flip an 18-pound hot turkey out of the oven. it was going to be a whole family vacation thing gone awry. because you have to flip it while it's hot. it's not easy to do. >> another question says my wife uses a turkey bag. it cooks in half the time and stays juicy. are there any down sides of using the turkey bag and i wond better the bpas. >> they're absolutely safe. people love them. it's a moist piece, so you're getting a moister approach, but not the crispy, golden skin. if you're okay with that, then that's great. but some people really want that crispy golden skin. you won't get that with the bag. >> this was a question i had. she wants to know do you suggest cooking the stuffing inside the turkey or separately? >> i cook it inside. that's the way i like it. but you want to make sure if you do choose to cook it inside, use your meat thermometer and take a registered reading off of that stuffing. you've got the raw juices going into the stuffing and you want to make sure it's 165 degrees. >> we do some of the turkey and everybody loves it so much. >> absolutely. >> you're going to continue answering questions. >> i am. >> thank you very much. you'll be back next hour. >> iz+mt will. first the president grants millions of illegals amnesty. now they may be taking our jobs. the incentive to hire them over americans that will have you furious. plus, will you stuff your belly and then go shopping today? we've got the list of stores that are open and the stores that are closed. the debate over whether retailers should take a back seat to family time at the top of the hour. weigh in. ♪ ♪ is designed with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing 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have arms big enough, i would hug each and every last one of them. >> more as we are live in ferguson this morning. when you stuff your bell then go shopping today? we've got the list of stores that are open and closed. and the debate over whether retailers should take a back seat to family time. and what if this happens to you? the last minute tips and tricks from a butterball expert no matter what happens to you today in your kitchen. mornings are better with friends. >> happy thanksgiving. you're watching "fox & friends." ♪ ♪ >> all the people are pushed off to the side. >> yes, they are, for the 88th annual macy's thanksgiving day parade and what a joyous occasion it is. in here and our studios, bass pro shop. >> mar where is at the parade and all of the turkey tips are here. >> what's your favorite balloon? >> i love sponge bob square pants. >> felix the cat was the first one and i learned in 1928, they let him fly up into the air and they exploded. >> then a few years they got valves put on them. >> they would sew in the mailing address so if people found it in their yard, they could mail it back. it's become a big deal, shopping not just on the friday after thanksgiving, but also on the thursday. it's this big question now, should stores be open on thanksgiving to kick off holiday shopping season? >> here are some of the big retailers that are open tonight. so once your belly is full and you're thinking i got to get out, head to target, macy's, of course, you can go to wal-mart, k-mart, sears, dollar general, big lots, and walgreen's. radio shack. if you need dollar items, go to family dollar. >> how much does everything cost there? >> about 3.99. >> also there are a lot of retailers that are going to be closed. they're making a point of telling everyone. we're doing this for a reason, so our employees can feel thankful this holiday. we've got a list of them. costco, crate and barrel, dillard's, vfw, game stop, hobby lobby. >> we had the spokesperson for dillard's on "fox & friends" earlier this week talking about why they made the decision to keep their doors closed. take a listen. >> this is just the right thing to do with them, allowing them this time off with their families on this special day, to kind of take a breather before things get really busy. and we just believe if we honor our associates in the long run, they're going to honor our customers as well. >> black friday really is getting this cloud hanging above it by people hating on it. i'm not somebody who likes to go out there on black friday or thanksgiving and go shopping and deal with the crowds. but it's become a family tradition for a lot of people. mom and daughter will look at the circulars and hop on line and map out their plan of attack for their shopping schedule. >> we were watching, i think it was charlie brown thanksgiving, it's a tradition now. my kids love it. i was struck by thinking, is this like a new thing, this shopping on thanksgiving night? it's starting to trickle it. but the complaints about christmas starting back in september now. and even in the charlie brown thanksgiving special, charlie brown is talking about christmas items being out in september and october. it's like 40 years ago that thing came out. >> there are a lot of people who like to work holidays when they can because they get paid a little bit more money. and that makes a big difference for a lot of people. there is a ohio democrat, state rep there who is saying he believes that they should pay more and make it a law. in fact, he's saying they should be paid triple time if you're going to work. >> yeah. >> he said that last year around thanksgiving, he met a woman and her 82-year-old mother, both had to work. and he said i was offended. can't there be one day that's carved out of this consumerist materialistic society we're living in? >> i would love to know if he was out shopping on that day. that's how he met her. here is your bag and receipt. by the way, i'm offended by this. >> but there are a lot of people who have to work the holidays. if you're in a winter community, that gets a lot of snow, you got snowplowers going, you got hospital workers. >> to regulate and have a contract saying we're going to regulate and have this business have to pay you triple time, many businesses pay double time or time and a half to work on holidays. let us know what you think about that. you can weigh in on our web site. here is somebody work double time. ainsley earhart standing by with the headlines. >> it's such a pleasure. it's so fun. thank you. let me tell you what you missed while you were sleeping. a fox news alert. a major terror plot foiled. security officials in israel confirming hamas militants were planning car bombs and kidnappings, even an attack on the soccer stadium in jerusalem. police arrested more than 30 militants and confiscated a large cache of weapons. it started to fall apart after a failed road side attack at the end of august. an extreme weather alert. most flights back on track. roads are pretty much clear after the nasty nor'easter caused travel nightmares for millions of americans yesterday. the busiest travel day of the year. nearly 700 flights were canceled across the country and 4,000 more delayed. the snow, sleet, all the rain also causing hundreds of accidents across several states. new overnight, passengers sent into panic mode when their plane is forced to make an emergency landing on the busiest travel day of the year. the united flight heading to chicago when the indicator light came on inside the cockpit. there was a problem with the landing gear. the pilot turned that plane around, went to wichita, where it did land safely. the 42 people on board were able to get on another flight to their destination. from humble beginnings to feeding the masses, businessman eric holme is giving back to his community in a mighty way. he grew up with a single mom helping her bussing tables throughout high school. he didn't go to college, but he said he never gave up. now he owns one of the most successful restaurant chains in florida. he joined us earlier to talk about paying it forward with the helping from the heart program. >> very humbling being able to give back at this size of a thanksgiving feast. but when we were children, that thanksgiving meal at the salvation army meant an awful lot to us. and we are thankful that we can give back like this today. >> we are thankful for him. golden corral is the restaurant he owns. today they plan to serve 25,000 meals with help from 1,000 volunteers. those are your headlines. we had an opportunity to talk to him earlier. >> such a great story. wonderful guy. >> thanks so much. we have breaking news from overnight. a massive mob of ferguson protesters filling the streets of los angeles. police arresting more than 100 people. >> dominic denatale joins us where protests were calmer last night. >> reporter: yeah. we saw a few dozen people protesting outside one of the gallerias here. they moved on pretty swiftly. we had the state troopers turn out. they're shifting out, turning around the shift with the county police that have been here for much of the night. the big difference we're noticing today is there is no national guard here on west fluorescent which we seen, having a significant presence here. they have been standing outside ferguson market and liquor here. images emerging of what actually happened two nights ago, three nights ago when rioters pulled down those boards and actually started storming in. the security footage shows how they stream through the door and started just grabbing whatever they could. one of them started a fire and managed to find fluid to ignite a fire inside this store. the woman running a milk carton pulled it out. amazing of what was going on there that night. also some pictures emerging, "wall street journal" of what happened to businesses here. the clean-up certainly starting this thanksgiving morning as weapon come down here to see precisely what happened to their businesses. clearing up debris, also just trying to assess how much does this cost. no official estimate at this time. despite it being three days since the riots took place and more than two dozen buildings were torn down. we can not take for granted that the tension is being defused in any shape or form. it was a quiet night. it is a quiet morning so far. before the weekend, if you think about it, there is no indication yet of how many protesters will return and how much indeed there is still deep anger that this turns into violence again. we'll see what happens today. back to you guys. >> wow. cold out there. great job out there and thanks. we'll check back with dominic a little later. meanwhile, we want to get to the 88th annual macy's thanksgiving day parade with a huge star, maria molina is live with a huge star this morning. hey, maria. >> hi, good morning. it's really tough to hear you because energy is picking up. we have a band playing. we have the balloons up and we have a very special guest with us this morning. welcome, good morning. how are you? >> happy thanksgiving. i'm good. very happy to be here. >> you're a tony award winning actress and singer and best known for your role in "frozen." the animated film that everyone knows about and that song, that everyone knows the lyrics to and sings along. so it's "letting go." how are you today? how does it feel to have so much success? >> really thankful for this incredible year. it's just been wonderful to share the whole "frozen" experience. i'm here on broadway in new york and i'm glad to be back in new york city. this is a great way to kind of pull all that together and then i have this holiday album coming out. so i'll sing some things from that. ill love seeing everybody's youtube videos of "let it go." that was the most amazing thin is listening to other people outside of myself. >> their own renditions. and what will you be singing for the parade? >> i'm singing "all i want for christmas is you." >> will you be on a float? >> i will be on a float. the chocolate float. i've had a lot of chocolate in the last couple weeks, which i don't need. >> please share. >> i will. >> is this your first time at the thanksgiving day parade? >> it's not, because i've done a lot of theater, we come and perform at macy's. with "wicked" and" rent ." so great to talk to you this morning. let's send it back to the studio s. happy thanksgiving. >> love her. >> my little girl sings repeatedly "let it go." coming up on the show, first the president granted millions of illegals amnesty. now they may be taking our jobs. the incentive to hire them over americans that will have you furious. and the new stocking stuffer this year, obamacare. the big health care sales pitch coming to a mall near you this black friday. ♪ ♪ >> i'm in afghanistan, i want to give a shout out to my friends and family in new york city. keep warm and 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joining me is he wants entwhistle and film maker dennis michael lynch. you've known about this for a while. this isn't new news, right? >> no. i've been scream about this for a year. and unfortunately, it's only coming to the surface now. let me explain how this works using my own company. i used to have 250 employees. 50 of them would be front office workers, sales, marketing, et cetera. i give them insurance. my guys in the back, though, lower skilled, lower wage, i can't afford to give them insurance. so as you said, if i don't give them the insurance, i get hit with a fine. that could be between 2,000 and 5,000. not 3. so if you look at the higher range, if i don't get insurance, i have to pay a million dollars fine. but now because obamacare is not given to anybody but legal u.s. citizens or legal aliens, the illegal aliens, 5 million, or are like ten million who just got the work permits from president obama, i could now hire them legally and rid of my u.s. citizen employees and give myself the million dollars. >> the critics will say, the obama administration is not promoting that you do it this way. in fact, this may even be a loophole. would you say a loophole? >> no. i tell you what, i've been asked this question, do you think he knows? i do think he knows. and i find something ironic. he gave the other day after ferguson, he gave the speech in chicago about how it is that there are so many hardships in the black community and then he goes on and talks about amnesty. anybody who is familiar with this knows that amnesty of this kind throws the black community under the bus. we've got 22% unemployment for young black males. >> highest in this country. >> in some cities, it's 50%. so now what happens is that these people are all going to go in and take those jobs. employers are going to be forced to hire the illegal alien, if you think about it, because the obamacare businessman, the employee mandate suffers you. it pins the employer versus the employee in a way that's like "the hunger games." so you bring in the illegal aliens and that's it. i think he knows exactly what he's doing. it's devastating for the economy because you're going to look at the 200 employees i had, where are they going? to welfare. to the ebt cards. when he says it will be good for the economy? it's going to be devastating. >> we talk to maria bartiromo about jobs. this will be the big frontier term unemployed people notng look for jobs. this will help or hurt them? n it will crush them. right now we've got 92 million people out of the work force. we've got over 50 million people on welfare. let's go back to those 200 employees. when they leave, where are they going to find a job? and don't think just for one moment that the illegal alien who just got this work permit who might be picking crops or hanging sheetrock is going to say now i can do that legally. they're going to be able to start going >>uváq+er had a thanksgiving like this? turkey on the floor with the dogs running. don't sweat t. we have a butterball expert here to help you with your questions. go to our facebook and janis is answering all your questions. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ i'm an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about america's favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal. we are about to make more gooddeliveriesverybody. to more places than anybody on earth. we have the speed. we have the technology. and we have the team. we made over 15 billion successful deliveries last year. 15 billion! football has a season. baseball has a season. this is our season. are you getting ready to tackle thanksgiving dinner and facing last minute jitters? back to answer more of your questions is expert janis. thank you. >> absolutely. >> inundated with questions on our facebook page. here is one, bill writes on facebook: my family will be several hours late and well after the turkey is finished. what is the best way to keep it warm or reheat it? obviously a lot of this travel, 3,000 flight delays, 700 flights canceled. so this may affect a lot of people. >> absolutely. that's a question i answer on facebook, too. we get that a lot. super easy. if it's only three hours or less, you can actually wrap the turkey in foil, lower it into a cooler, put some towels on top of it, shut the lid, it will keep it warm for three hours. >> why towels? >> insulates it. keeps it all nice and warm. yeah. works phenomenal. people call us back and say thank you for that. >> that's great. good one. >> next, another says, what size turkey is best to cook in a smoker? 20 pounds. >> there are several smokers on the market. you have to look at your direction, see where you're at. more than likely you're fine. >> a lot of different flavors of the chips and everything. >> smoked turkeys are phenomenal. >> one from judy, it's just my husband and me. i bought a butterball breast and i'm not sure how to roast it. any tips? >> super easy. put that in a little pie rex type dish, a glass dish. if you've defrosted it, doesn't take more than an hour and 45 minutes to two hours at best. use a meat thermometer. you're going to come up to 165 degrees. easy enough. >> janis will be answering more questions on facebook. we thank you. >> you're welcome. >> we want to get out to the macy's thanksgiving day parade because maria molina is with a very special guest. she's got the band, kiss, there with her live. hey, maria. >> hey, good morning. i found a new way to stay warm. from here in new york city, we have windchills in the upper 20s, low 30s, and i found kiss. good morning. >> good morning. >> friends of "fox & friends." you've been together for 40 years. you're celebrating -- >> it's our anniversary. a big year for us. rock and local hall of fame. did a vegas residency, which was amazing. just did a tour, 650,000 people. it's amazing. it's just getting started. the parade, this is americana. kids is americana. we're celebrating what we are and what this parade is all about. >> this is your debut at the parade, right? >> yes. , yes. what a debut. we have quite a line - up of great looking cheerleaders who were part of our celebration. >> and what is it like spending 40 years together, because that's longer than most marriages, right? >> that's very true. there is a little give and take and also prioritizing what's important and what's important for us is delivering a great show to the fans and to living up to our history. so as long as we can do that, we're on the sameñn-ev page. >> okay. sounds good. so you guys are all friends of the show. here we go. how is this armor wearing today? >> how old are you? 12? this. >> i'm too young. well, so what's going on? >> what's going on with this? >> he's giving me a hard time. >> once he started talking to gene, we knew it was going to be trouble. >> maria, i said you look really tiny next to him. >> i'm going to go into the electric you can and cry a little bit after that. >> we love these guys. >> i'm not going to lie, as a kid, kiss was one of miff biggest fears. >> other people said that -- i was afraid i would see them on the street and it was the scariest thing in the world to me. >> you don't recognize them without the face mask. >> put yourself in maria's shoes. 28 minutes after the hour. happy thanksgiving. here is what's coming up on "fox & friends." a minneapolis man tried to board a plane to fight with isis. this morning he's walking free. then a school bans the word christmas because one family complained. hear from one of the thousands of parents fighting to bring christmas back next. ♪;wod/: ♪ starts working to eliminate gas bubbles in minutes for effective relief. dulcogas, from the makers of dulcolax- nothing relieves gas faster. ♪ ♪ >> happy thanksgiving, everybody. look at the crowds packing into the macy's thanksgiving day parade. this is the 88th year for them. 3 1/2 million live spectators will be watching and 5 million television viewers will be watching from home. >> 1924, they had a quarter of a million people watch that day and said this is a big turnout. we'll do it again next year. look at all these people. i just saw like a guy, like cave diving back here. he looks like -- i saw elmo a few minutes back here. this crowd is packed. how are we going to get out of here today? i don't even know. you're looking live at 6th avenue. >> it's thanksgiving and we are a thankful nation. here is what some of you are saying today that you are thankful for today. jail said i'm most thankful that michigan was upset. i haven't heard the end of it until this year. my wife -- i'm a michigan man. a rough marriage. >> tough. billy writes, no matter how bad it steams to be, i am thankful to be born in the greatest country, america. >> richard on facebook says, i'm thankful i am alive after 13 years of a double lung transplant and still going and thank you, god, for the gift of life. >> and another says, my four daughters and i are thankful to have their daddy home for a short time from his deployment. it makes this thanksgiving extra special. isn't that the truth? good for them. >> you can e-mail us and go to our facebook friends and send us what you're thankful for. how does this sound for a stocking stuffer? obamacare. the government trying to take advantage of the biggest shopping day of the year, black friday, by bringing obamacare to a mall near you. >> leeland vittert is live in washington with the gift. good morning. >> happy thanksgiving to you. good morning. in addition to the great deal on a tv or clothing at the mall, you're going to be inundated with flyers on obamacare while you scurry around trying to find the best deals. malls in a number of states are allowing the health care navigators to hawk obamacare around the country. not sure how you hawk anything in those crowds you're seeing. the move comes during open enrollment version 2.0, which appears to at least be going a little smoother than the disastrous web site rollout that happened last year. the new program focuses more on outreach than it does the celebrity advertising. still at least one democrat is now having second thoughts about pushing obamacare through after president obama's win in 2010. >> wasn't the change we were hired to make. americans were crying out for the end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs. not changes in health care. >> reporter: if you are wondering if there are any door buster deals on health care or perhaps on obamacare, no dice. it appears even on black friday, you, too, anna, will be paying full price, as will all of the taxpayers. >> all right. thanks. rick is standing by because he is already doing his shopping this morning. hey, rick. >> exactly. one of the biggest sales of the year. it only lasts six hours. bass pro shop's black friday. we're back with professional bull rider luke. amazing. how did you get this gig? >> right time, i guess. >> that's it. we've been talking about great deals that bass pro shops has today. tell us about more. >> we're happy to be open today and happy to help you. redhead jeans right here. ten dollars. >> what? >> you can't ever find a great pair of jeans like this for that price. absolutely awesome. and you go right up here to the fleece. got our -- that's ten bucks as well. >> ten bucks. >> yeah. >> you get a whole outfit for under 20 bucks. yeah. >> what's next? >> p.j. pants for the ladies right here. come in assortment of colors. these are five. >> okay. it's crazy. they fly off the shelf in a hurry. you got to hustle and get there fast. bass pro hoody for men here. this is great. everybody loves a good hoody. this is redhead. that's $14. >> okay. and these are incredible deals you have going now. >> absolutely. >> ammo cartridge. >> yep. everybody knows ammo is kind of scarce here now adays. but we have this box of shells here. this is under $20 and a commemorative box that it comes in. >> cool. and then camera and viewer? >> yep. wild game innovations camera here. this is actually allows you to look at your pictures in the field. so you don't have to take the card out and go home. you can look at them right there and put it back on your tree. >> one last thing you've got. >> right here. this is absolutely amazing. under $20. you can see here, it folds up into this small little deal right here and you can do just about anything with this. like i said, it's under 20 bucks. basically you get this for free. >> very good. we really appreciate it. bass pro shops open tomorrow. let's go to ainsley for the headline. >> thank you. he wanted to leave the u.s. to fight with isis. now he's back on the streets. when looking issues the 18-year-old slipped out of the side door of a minneapolis courthouse after being released to his parents. he was arrested back in may trying to board a plane to turkey to fight with isis. he's the first terror suspect in minnesota to be released before trial. shocking even his own attorney. a stunning new report shows drones nearly hitting commercial planes 25 times in the past six months. in one incident at jfk airport, a drone came within just a foot of slamming into the wing of a packed flight. the faa says they do plan to propose regulations on drones before the end of this year. but it could be years before those rules are made final. and no more christmas vacation. a massachusetts school district banning the term from the school calendar after just one family's request. it will now be called holiday break. 4,000 people in the marshfield community signed a petition, but officials said too bad. elaine taylor started that petition and she joined us earlier. >> where is our freedom? it's being censored out of the community and where was the voice of all these people 4241 people? it wasn't heard at the school board meeting. >> the school board chairwoman saying the change was in the best interest of all the students and the town. back over to you. >> thanks. it can be one of the trickiest parts of your thanksgiving dinner, carving the turkey. coming up, we are taking on the challenge, it's our carve-off. >> did one last year. >> speak of turkey, these ones won't fit on your thanksgiving table. we're breaking down the top political turkeys of the year. stick around. ♪ ♪ s ♪ great sales are cookin' at bass pro shops this black friday. get this redhead skeleton hoodie for only $14. save on a johnny morris carbonlite baitcast reel plus get a tech t shirt free. goodnight. goodnight. for those kept awake by pain... the night is anything but good. introducing new aleve pm. the first to combine a safe sleep aid. plus the 12 hour strength of aleve. for pain relief that can last until the am. now you can have a good night and a... good morning! new aleve pm. for a better am. and u'll see just how much it has to offer, especially if you're thinking of moving an old 401(k) to a fidelity ira. it gives you a widrange of investment options... and the free help you need to make sure your investments fit your goals -- and what you're really investing for. tap into the full power of your fidelity green line. call today and we'll make it easy to move that old 401(k) to a fidelity rollover ira. infrom the experts in feminine bladdeprotection.ection new always discreet underwear, for sensitive bladders. only always discreet underwear has soft, dual leakguard barriers, to help stop leaks where they happen most. plus a discreet fit that hugs your curves. you barely feel it. new always discreet. now bladder leaks can feel like no big deal. because hey, pee happens. visit alwaysdiscreet.com for coupons and your free sample. time tore news by the numbers. first up, $2. that's how much extra spirit airlines is charging for checked bags. it's just for the holidays, by the way. the company says it's trying to urge flyers to pack lighter. the fee hike running december 18 through january 5. merry christmas to you. and 69%. that's about how many companies are turning a blind eye to their employees on line shopping at work. they claim a quick ten-minute break to browse will keep employees satisfied. i can vouch for it. ainsley was very happy this morning. finally, two. that's how many turkeys president obama pardoned for thanksgiving. he named them mac and cheese. they're going to live out the remainder of their days at turkey hill in virginia. anna? thanks so much. in the world of politics, it's always turkey day, isn't it? we're taking a look back at this year's top political turkeys. that means they either had the biggest gaffes, most controversial statements, or left you wondering, what were they thinking? the fox news contributor and political editor joins us now with his top five list. good morning. happy thanksgiving. >> great to see you. happy thanksgiving. >> thank you very much. the first turkey you have for us is the debbie wasserman schultz for this. >> scott walker has given women the back of his hand. and there is no -- i know that's stark. i know that is direct. but that is reality. >> and many said that she was acting as if he was okay with domestic violence somehow. >> yeah. sort of very graphic comparison there. kind of an odious attack. it didn't work. walker went on to win again for the third time in four years. i think for debbie wasserman schultz, the bigger problem is it furnished her own party with an opportunity to sound off publicly about her performance at the dnc. there have been long knives coming out for her for a number of months now. her days are numbered in that position. >> days are numbered, you say. our next turkey, number four, is michelle bachman for saying this. millions of unskilled illiterate foreign nationals who can't speak the english language will all likelihood vote democrat is what she's saying. >> right. and look, i'm fully willing to concede that when it comes to the president's executive amnesty, it's quite controversial, there are some serious constitutional and policy issues at play. so to sort of rant about ill little rates in a proposed statement no less, is just about the least helpful messaging for republicans that i can possibly imagine. congresswoman bachman is retiring in december. >> i think your number three is something most people will have a hard time disagreeing with. beau sides of the aisle. president obama going golfing shortly after the foley beheading and held that news conference in martha's vineyard. let's look at this one. you remember this shot. it was just minutes later. seven minutes later, he's saying fore. >> yeah. i think there have been a number of optics issues that the white house has grappled with this year, whether it was the golf game after the beheading, whether it was the president moving forward with a pair of fundraisers just after that jet liner is blown out of the sky over ukraine, or whether it was the white house releasing a statement about a lavish presidential party while ferguson was burning earlier in the summer, i think that even democrats would look for a little bit more situational awareness from the political team at the white house. >> these mid terms got pretty nasty and senator mary landrieu in louisiana still battling for reelection. remember her saying this about the south being sexist and racist? >> very, very honest with you. the south is not always been the friendliest place for african-americans. it's been a difficult time for the president to present himself in a very positive light as a leader. it's not always been a good place for women to be able to present ourselves. >> why is she your number two turkey? >> that clip is just so frustrating to me. these are the words of an embittered woman and incumbent who thinks she's going to lose and probably will in the runoff on december 6. >> they elected her. >> it's so falsifiable. she's saying the problem with louisiana voters and just it's usually not a good idea to insult the people whose votes you're asking for. i know it's hot take on my part. this state three times elected her as a woman, and twice elected bobby jindal, an indian american as governor. in his reelection campaign, bobby jindal won every single parrish in the state of louisiana. >> yes. sometimes when you get desperate, you start grasping at straws. number one turkey, this happening quite recently. it was the architect of obamacare. jonathan gruber basically calling americans stupid. >> lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. basically call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting this thing to pass. >> we're idiots and that's how this got through. >> this guy, right? not only is he one of the top architects of obamacare, i should point out did the same thing for romneycare. and what we've seen now is the series of videos where he concedes that the core substantive arguments against obamacare were correct and short of gleefully telling friendly audiences that he and his ill o'clock pro-actively lied about these things to the stupid american people for our own good and the kicker is that we, the taxpayers, have paid this guy $400,000 for his work on the federal side of this alone. i would just argue that if we look at what happened in 2010 and again this past november, perhaps american voters aren't quite as stupid as mr. gruber thinks. >> that's why the health care officials are having to go out to the shopping malls and hand out flyers. >> that's a tough sell. >> we thank you so much for that. >> happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving to you. send us your top turkeys. here is what's coming up, which one of us can carve up the perfect turkey? it's a "fox & friends" thanksgiving battle coming up next. ♪ ♪ it's the purple pill, the #1 prescribed acid blocking brand, available without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protection™ two weeks later. look, credit karma-- are you talking to websites again? 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>> then you got to slice the top part. i would take the skin off. it will dull your knife. >> really? >> after, slice the skin and put it on the platter. >> we have one minute on the carving. >> one minute, start the clock. ready, go. >> okay. >> you know what, i don't think we should be racing when doing things with knives. let'ser honest. >> we have to do both sides? >> you got to cut the v. >> the v? >> you want to take the breast off in a whole piece so you can cut it safely on a cutting board. not off the bone. >> slice down. >> at the joint. >> my dad does a great job with this. >> rick, you're right about that. the speedier you go, the hour you're hacking into this. >> there we go. >> four seconds left. clayton wins again. the perfect one eighth of an inch slice. with just the right amount of skin. >> there you go. >> when we come back, more of what you're thankful for. keep sending them in on our facebook page today. ♪ ♪ (vo) nourished. rescued. protected. given new hope. during the subaru "share the love" event, subaru owners feel it, too. because when you take home a new subaru, we donate 250 dollars to helping those in need. we'll have given 50 million dollars over seven years. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. well, it's been the number one soup in america.soup? 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