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congressman ron desantis, ways your reaction to attorney general jeff sessions saying he's going to allow the u.s. attorney of utah john huber to look into this first then take his recommendation on whether a special counsel is needed? >> it is a step in the right direction of where he was a few weeks ago. he said i appointed the inspector general the look at it, he's a fine guy, but he doesn't have any prosecutorial authority. the fact that you have a prosecutor outside the beltway is a step in the right direction. there was a special prosecutor appointed to pursue president trump when there was no evidence of a criminal violation involving trump's campaign and russia. in this instance we have a lot of evidence there were statutes that may have been violated. false statements made to congress. you have potential obstructing congressional investigation. you have all of those things, and clearly the justice department has a conflict because they can't investigate themselves. so to me it seems the case for a special counsel is much stronger than it was when rosenstein appointed robert mueller. katie: the inspector general is very respected for the work he has done. but here is congressman bob goodlatte's response. >> we think this should be an investigation outside of the department of justice all together. is why we continue to call for a special counsel. katie: a lot of people don't know the inspector general has a lot of power to unveil a lot of the wrongdoing, but he can only remedies reply nary action. he can't prosecute the crimes that may or may not have been committed. explain to the viewers the jurisdiction the inspector general has and why the doj might not be able to investigate themselves. >> the inspector general is not a prosecutor. so if you identify a criminal violation, he can't get a grand jury indictment or get a subpoena or bring in witness outside the department of justice or fbi and question them. it's more of a bureaucratic function to see what the department can do better. when you have evidence of wrongdoing, that calls for someone with prosecutorial authority. look at the news of the andrew mccabe lying four times to other agents and the inspector general. papadopoulos one supposed false statement. the favre american, if they lie to the fbi, they get indicted. but if the deputy director if he lies four times he just go to the inspector general and that's it? we need equal justice that applies to the average american and people in high levels of authority. katie: have you seen the inspector general report that he has been working on looking into how the fbi handled, including a former deputy director of the fbi andrew mccabe. have you seen that? ka what kind of -- what kind of insight can you give us? >> this has been going on 15 months now. i think this thing needs to be brought in for a landing. i think there will be a lot of problems uncovered. this investigation into hillary was badly mishandled from the start. there have been a lot of guys like me saying why aren't more heads rolling in the fbi for some of the conduct we have seen. i think part of the reason is people like sessions and christopher wray have been waiting for this i.g. report. > katie: i think that's the key question. people see these reports and are waiting for congress to bring some accountability. the frustration is we see all this information all the time yet people keep getting away with it. >> there needs to be two tracks. the i.g. report can provide the basis to terminate people like peter strzok, his text messaging. but the prosecutor, hopefully that will evolve into a special counsel. that individual can address criminal violations. hopefully some of these people who misbehave will be terminated and be out of the government. but you need a special counsel to follow through for criminal liability that is uncovered. katie: switching gears, president trump gave a speech will infrastructure. he's going to congress to push through a $1.5 trillion plan. what else your view from capitol hill on whether that will get done before the mid-telephones. >> the most of important thing he identified is cutting the breweriate i and -- cutting the bureaucracy and red tape. so the dollar signs to me i think will be debated. but if he's streamlining the way forward for infrastructure, even the existing dollars we have now will be put to good use, and you will see a big improvement. katie: congressman ron desantis, thanks for your time. senior advisor for the trump 2020 campaign, katrina pierson. i want to start with you and your reaction to attorney general jeff sessions punting this off saying this guy is removed from the justice department because he's in a faraway state. >> i have to echo congressman desantis. it makes sense to find somebody outside of d.c. to investigate. but my issue is the standard. where was the standard when the special counsel was appointed to go after the president and his family. this is a complete and absurd atrocity. jeff sessions should have appointed a special counsel to investigate this. jeff sessions reconciled with american citizens who were targeted by obama's irs. what is he trying to confirm? is he waiting on a confession? it doesn't make any sense. it's going to take a lot more time. in the meantime robert mueller is running all over the place. they won't even narrow his scope. neither you or i or any of the viewers of tonight's program could get away with deleting 30,000 emails after receiving a subpoena and still be walking around. katie: david, you agree it should be investigated for another reason. but doesn't the fbi have a credibility problem with the country as a whole and wouldn't a special prosecutor clean some of that up? >> i think what your audience would wants is for to us follow the rule of law whether democrat or republican to make sure these investigations go forward properly and there are impartial decision makers in charge of these investigations. katrina is confused about the standard. if there is a conflict of interest or extraordinary circumstances. neither of those are in place. so sessions made the right place. what happened with mueller is very different. the reason we have a special counsel with mueller is trump fired i'm. when he fired comey that slowed was a conflict of interest. trump said a week later on nbc he fired comey because -- let me finish. the reason that we know that there was conflict of interest is trump went on nbc and said i fired comey because of the russia investigation. that's a true conflict of interest and that's how weenlded up with a special counsel. sessions decided not to have a special counsel there will be is no such concern. there is a u.s. attorney in utah who will follow the rules and follow the laws and he doesn't have a conflict of interest. >> the problem is about evidence. the standard is about evidence from general sessions' mut -- mh itself. there is zero evidence of collusion. when you take loretta lynch sitting on the tarmac with bill clinton. you have hundreds of americans unmasked by the obama administration. and these new texts between strzok and page, quote the white house is leading on this. the house intelligence committee already uncovered fisa abuse. this your conflict. it is a farce and a witch hunt exactly like the president stated. katie: i think people outside the beltway are concerned about this happening to them. i want to switch gears to president trump's infrastructure speech. katrina, you are work on his 2020 campaign. he talked in front of 400 union members in ohio. should that concern democrats when they are trying to get back those districts and counties president trump turned from blue to red? >> absolutely. we'll let the democrats run on taking away their bonuses. in the meantime the president is making america great again. it's expanding financing for a lot of these projects. public-private partnerships in place that i would hope would make states more accountable so they could better suit their citizens as well. i think it will be exciting over the summer. katie: infrastructure is usually a democrat issue. is this something the president will be able to work with democrats on? >> it should be a bipartisan issue. i'm from ohio. we are glad the president went to ohio. the president gave a speech there. he was supposed to talk about infrastructure. but he pretty much talked about himself, his favorite subject. the pro trump people were probably happy to hear that speech. but if you were look for details of the infrastructure program, they were not in that speech. katie: he gave four distinct points on how he wants to implement it. but that's for another time. judge jeanine gave us a tour of the bible museum on this holy saturday night. kim jong-un ready to sit down with the south korean president. sebastian gore today is with us live. feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin 24 hour relief when allergies occur. day after day, after day. because life should have more wishes and less worries. feel the clarity and live claritin clear. ♪ with esurance photo claims, you could have money for repairs within a day. wow! that was really fast. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance, click or call. jushis local miracle ear t at helped andrew hear more of the joy in her voice. just one hearing test is all it took for him to hear more of her laugh... and less of the background noise around him. for helen, just one visit to her local miracle-ear is all it took to learn how she can share more moments with her daughter. just one free hearing test could help you hear more... laughter... music... life. call now! for a limited time, you can get $500 off miracle-ear hearing aids! president trump: this week we secured a wonderful deal with south korea. we had a deal that was a horror show. it was going to produce 200,000 jobs. and it did, for them. that was a hillary clinton special. she said it would produce 200,000 jobs, and she was right. but it was for them, not for us. katie: that was president trump giving a strong speech this week with a major focus on north and south korea. joining us with reaction, author of "defeating jihad," dr. sebastian gorka. we'll start with the news of russia, 60 russian diplomats expelled from the united states. what's your reaction to that? >> i'm very happy. we are coming together as a western alliance to take on russia. according to some estimates there are more russian intelligence officers actively working in the west than there were at the height of the cold war. and they are destabilizing countries like the ukraine or the mirror abrofd russia or assassinating people on the streets of the u.k. we have to respond. katie: administration officials have been saying these diplomats in the united states aren't actually russian diplomats, they are spies under a diplomatic flag. how is it they have been operating pass spies as an intelligence network in the united states for so long and it look this long with the russians boy poisoning a british spy in the u.k. >> in their he bassy they can be work economics, politics, but every nation deploys intelligence professionals to their embassies. in some cases they are declared. in some cases you have a chief of station. but in the case of russia they pack their embassies full of advisors and economists who have nothing to do with those jobs. they are intelligence collectors, they are members of the kgb's new organization. katie: the united states flag in st. petersburg today in russia came down. russia has respond in terms of reciprocity. but it seems that that could be distraction. the expelling of diplomats makes a statement. but should we be worried about real attacks russia could be launching in cyber war. the russians i til trade our energy sector, parts of the energy grid in america. this an important show of force. but should we paying attention of other damages aspects. >> whether it's in cyber domain, i'm more concerned in terms of information warfare, psychological information. it was russian propaganda that went i toll steele dossier that hillary clinton paid for that was used to obtain the fisa warrant. that's the kind of thing we have to respond to as well. katie: the president said he wants to take the united states out of syria soon, given wrush has a lot of influence there. >> i work for the president, the president is not an adventurist. he's a conservative. he's a gop president. doesn't mean's a neoconservative. he sees the invasion of other people's countries as fundamentally you be american. we were born as a nation in rebellion to colonialism. he wants our troops out of syria because he wants to do things back home in katie master sergeant john dunbar was killed there this week. what should we expect from the meeting between kim jong-un and the south korean president. where are we on all that. >> this is a dictatorship. this is more stall lynnist than even the height of stollin's soviet union. what do dictatorships do? they lie, whether it's hitler in munich. let's remember what reagan said, trust but theirify. this is the first time in 65 years, a north korean head of state wants to meet an american president. but don't expect it to go completely smoothly. katie: next, a special treat. judge jeanine takes you inside the beautiful museum of the bible in our nation's capital. reporter: more than a hundred protesters rallied in sacramento today. clark was unarmed when he was shot. police say they mistook a cell phone for a gun. yoautopsy results find was shot8 times and six of the shots were in his back. pope francis delivering his easter vigil message. he urged people to not be silent from the face of injustices. he baptized 8 people, one of them a nigerian beggar. he became a hero in italy for disarming a robber while standing outside a market begging for spare change. now back to "justice with judge jeanine." katie: the museum of the bible is a spiritual and powerful place to visit in washington, d.c. what better time to take a look back at jeanine pirro's under view with steve green from the hobly lobby museum. judge jeanine: you have undertaken this mammoth project, 430,000 square feet, the museum of the bible here in washington, d.c. there is nothing like it anywhere in the world. why? >> i grew up in a hope that had a love for god's word. i group if a christian home. my parents took us to church and raids our family according to the bible. and it has served us well. i'm blessed to be born in a country that our founders built on principles they found in this book. i have been blessed by this book in multiple ways. we wanted to encourage others to consider this book as well. we wanted to inspire them to engage with it. judge jeanine: they say 90% of american homes have within them a bible. yet it seems this generation unlike previous generations has never been more distanced from the bible. why do you think that is? >> we are probably more ignorant of this book than we have been as a nation. we don't teach it in our schools as we once did. it was regularly taught in our schools so people grew up knowing it. our founders would speak from the bible and they wouldn't have to give chapter and verse because everybody knew what they were talking about. today you make a quote from the bible and many people have no idea what the source. even common phrases in our vernacular come from the bible. judge jeanine: you have created technology to tell the story, technology that didn't exist, you created it and patented it. >> one specific example. there is a digital docent. a tablet where a visitor can custom mice it -- can customize it, and it will direct them through the museum using indoor guidance that knows where they are within inches. judge jeanine: downstairs, five doors, how much do they weigh? >> 16 tons collectively. judge jeanine: how do you deliver 16 tons of doors? >> one piece at a time. >> it's amazing how much of our american history reflects quote s from the bible. >> we are just a few blocks from the united states capitol. judge jeanine: what is written in the united states capitol is found in the bible. >> there is a geneva bible in the painting. this is where we have scripture around us all day long and in many cases we don't even know it. phrases from our language that are used. judge jeanine: here you have victoria beckham with a tattoo that literally quotes the song of solomon that the bible is so relevant to so many people in so many ways we don't even recognize. one of the things you have done that speaks to how religion plays such an important part of your life is as a not for profit business owner of hobby lobby, you took the obama administration to the united states supreme court. you fought for religious freedom. you funded the case. the obama administration made a mandate that religion be damned and you would have to pay for abortaffacts for any employee in your employ. you felt that was a violation of your religious freedom. why? and how did it feel when you won? >> if life begins at conception as our family believes. to take part in an abortive drug or process, we view that as taking life. that is something that violates our religious beliefs. there are many in this country that believe the same way we do that taking life is obviously in our mind wrong. so for the government to come in and tell us we had to freely provide to our employees products that could take life, that violated our conscience and we felt we had no option but to challenge the government on the mandate they required to us take part of that. we met as a family. the decision was unanimous. we felt like we had no option but to challenge the government that we love on the mandate they put on our business. judge jeanine: when you won? >> it was an exciting day. for many of us, we somewhat felt like we would have a win, but there is no guarantee. there was a certain comfort that we had that we knew we were doing the right thing. and we were at oxford, my wife and i. the rest of the family was at our corporate offices in oklahoma city, we were sciepg in, and it was a thrilling day to know the foundational principle this nation was built upon, our religious freedoms were upheld. and just the pride of our country i remember some of the feelings i had. this section is called bible now. another app showing how people are opening up the app to engage with the bible. the skeptic comes in and thinks nobody is engaging with this book any more. but people are engaging with this book all over the world. >> we want to invite all people to engage with this book. this book has spoken into people from all different walks of life and has impacted lives from all different walks. so this is a place for people to come in and learn. judge jeanine: steven green, on behalf of so many of us, you and mrs. green, your wife jackie, have done an unbelievable job here. katie, president trump's latest tweets target amazon. we'll see a bored wall. right? 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we'll be back in a moment. ♪ gas, bloating, constipation and diarrhea can start in the colon and may be signs of an imbalance of good bacteria. only phillips' colon health has this unique combination of probiotics. it helps replenish good bacteria. get four-in-one symptom defense. wgreat tasting, heart-healthys the california walnuts.ever? so simple, so good. get the recipes at walnuts.org. katie: earlier this week judge jeanine sat down to talk about christian persecution around the globe and how we can help. judge jeanine: you are the national president of the association of the clergy created by the vatican. you have been educated and you studied the priesthood in france and rome and lebanon, the country where you are from. my ethnic background as well. but i am sure you have seen as i have seen, in a 10-year period between 2005 and 2015, more than a million christians slaughtered because they are christians in the middle east and africa. what is happening? >> what's happening is a global genocide against christianity. it's the largest persecuted religion in the world. judge jeanine: why is it happening and who is alowtion it to happen. >> we have four reasons for it to happen in the world. it has been happening for 200 years and a great silence in the world. the west secularism after the french revolution and this i think is the historical reason behind this. then you have the turkish first world war where you had the genocide against the syriac people. and then the wave of the arab states beginning and creation. the world was in so much transformation and changes. then i have europe, the united states, south asia, between the two great wars and the 20th century. but the main reason for this silence has to do with secularism. the trend in the west that they -- judge jeanine: isn't the united states supposed to be the country that protects people and liberties? we are welcoming all these refugees. what about christian refugees? >> they are not allowed to come into the country at least under the former administration. we see hope with a new administration our president. this is why i was inclined when i was doing prayers in israel that he understood that message that america is one of the promoters for christians in the world. i pray he'll continue on his promises in this regard. in my brief meetings with the president and religious leaders. the lady of fatima statue i blessed him with it. spiritual diplomacy should be added as one of the platforms. judge jeanine: i don't know what spiritual diplomacy means? we pray for them to stop? >> i tell you what spiritual diplomacy. simply say the truth. break the silence about the persecution against christians. make sure the world knows christianity is light in this world. don't let oil, money or other values or political intrigues challenge you. that's what i call spiritual diplomacy. it's okay for the president some to stand and say i am a christian, i will stop the murder of christians in the world. i want to allow that faith to flourish. judge jeanine: is the pope doing enough? >> the pope my information says is being informed. definitely he's following up. doing enough? i think he can do more. the pope can do more on the platform of protecting christians in the world and middle east. but i do believe he's very sincere at heart. judge jeanine: he's the leader of the flock, he should be at the head of the spear. what would you like my viewers to do besides the spiritual diplomacy speaking up, what can they do for christians in the middle east. >> check the missionofhopeandmercy.org it tells you the clear action you need to take in today's world. celebrate easter and make sure you stand up for your values, for your traditional values as an american. the middle east is a place of dialogue and peace. we need to keep christianity as a light in this world. judge jeanine: thank you so much for being with us. and happy easter to you, father. . .. . . . . . ♪baby slice it right. from the makers of lantus, toujeo provides blood sugar-lowering activity for 24 hours and beyond, proven blood sugar control all day and all night, and significant a1c reduction. toujeo is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. it contains 3 times as much insulin in 1 milliliter as standard insulin. don't use toujeo to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you're allergic to insulin. get medical help right away if you have a serious allergic reaction such as body rash, or trouble breathing. don't reuse needles or share insulin pens. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which can be life threatening. it may cause shaking, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurred vision. check your blood sugar levels daily. injection site reactions may occur. don't change your dose of insulin without talking to your doctor. tell your doctor about all your medicines and medical conditions. check insulin label each time you inject. taking tzds with insulins like toujeo may cause heart failure that can lead to death. find your rhythm and keep on grooving. ♪let's groove tonight. ask your doctor about toujeo. ♪share the spice of life. directv gives you more for your thing. your top-rated thing. that five stars, two thumbs up, 12-out-of-10, would recommend thing. because if you only want the best thing, you get the #1 thing. directv is rated #1 in customer satisfaction over cable. switch now and get a $200 reward card. more for your thing. that's our thing. call 1.800.directv >> i want to take a moment to wish our viewers a happy passover and at wonderful easter holiday. i have to get to spend time with your family and friends this weekend. thanks for watching. we will be back next saturday. the gregg gutfeld show is next. >> i didn't think we get to the point where you had putin saying it's as intense as it was is the 80s. i heard it called a hot piece. >> that's a good way to describe it. >> yes, hot piece. you have to love dana. 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OrAbiaNigeriaGenevaSwitzerlandUtahUnited-statesHollywoodCaliforniaSacramentoNorth-korea congressman ron desantis, ways your reaction to attorney general jeff sessions saying he's going to allow the u.s. attorney of utah john huber to look into this first then take his recommendation on whether a special counsel is needed? >> it is a step in the right direction of where he was a few weeks ago. he said i appointed the inspector general the look at it, he's a fine guy, but he doesn't have any prosecutorial authority. the fact that you have a prosecutor outside the beltway is a step in the right direction. there was a special prosecutor appointed to pursue president trump when there was no evidence of a criminal violation involving trump's campaign and russia. in this instance we have a lot of evidence there were statutes that may have been violated. false statements made to congress. you have potential obstructing congressional investigation. you have all of those things, and clearly the justice department has a conflict because they can't investigate themselves. so to me it seems the case for a special counsel is much stronger than it was when rosenstein appointed robert mueller. katie: the inspector general is very respected for the work he has done. but here is congressman bob goodlatte's response. >> we think this should be an investigation outside of the department of justice all together. is why we continue to call for a special counsel. katie: a lot of people don't know the inspector general has a lot of power to unveil a lot of the wrongdoing, but he can only remedies reply nary action. he can't prosecute the crimes that may or may not have been committed. explain to the viewers the jurisdiction the inspector general has and why the doj might not be able to investigate themselves. >> the inspector general is not a prosecutor. so if you identify a criminal violation, he can't get a grand jury indictment or get a subpoena or bring in witness outside the department of justice or fbi and question them. it's more of a bureaucratic function to see what the department can do better. when you have evidence of wrongdoing, that calls for someone with prosecutorial authority. look at the news of the andrew mccabe lying four times to other agents and the inspector general. papadopoulos one supposed false statement. the favre american, if they lie to the fbi, they get indicted. but if the deputy director if he lies four times he just go to the inspector general and that's it? we need equal justice that applies to the average american and people in high levels of authority. katie: have you seen the inspector general report that he has been working on looking into how the fbi handled, including a former deputy director of the fbi andrew mccabe. have you seen that? ka what kind of -- what kind of insight can you give us? >> this has been going on 15 months now. i think this thing needs to be brought in for a landing. i think there will be a lot of problems uncovered. this investigation into hillary was badly mishandled from the start. there have been a lot of guys like me saying why aren't more heads rolling in the fbi for some of the conduct we have seen. i think part of the reason is people like sessions and christopher wray have been waiting for this i.g. report. > katie: i think that's the key question. people see these reports and are waiting for congress to bring some accountability. the frustration is we see all this information all the time yet people keep getting away with it. >> there needs to be two tracks. the i.g. report can provide the basis to terminate people like peter strzok, his text messaging. but the prosecutor, hopefully that will evolve into a special counsel. that individual can address criminal violations. hopefully some of these people who misbehave will be terminated and be out of the government. but you need a special counsel to follow through for criminal liability that is uncovered. katie: switching gears, president trump gave a speech will infrastructure. he's going to congress to push through a $1.5 trillion plan. what else your view from capitol hill on whether that will get done before the mid-telephones. >> the most of important thing he identified is cutting the breweriate i and -- cutting the bureaucracy and red tape. so the dollar signs to me i think will be debated. but if he's streamlining the way forward for infrastructure, even the existing dollars we have now will be put to good use, and you will see a big improvement. katie: congressman ron desantis, thanks for your time. senior advisor for the trump 2020 campaign, katrina pierson. i want to start with you and your reaction to attorney general jeff sessions punting this off saying this guy is removed from the justice department because he's in a faraway state. >> i have to echo congressman desantis. it makes sense to find somebody outside of d.c. to investigate. but my issue is the standard. where was the standard when the special counsel was appointed to go after the president and his family. this is a complete and absurd atrocity. jeff sessions should have appointed a special counsel to investigate this. jeff sessions reconciled with american citizens who were targeted by obama's irs. what is he trying to confirm? is he waiting on a confession? it doesn't make any sense. it's going to take a lot more time. in the meantime robert mueller is running all over the place. they won't even narrow his scope. neither you or i or any of the viewers of tonight's program could get away with deleting 30,000 emails after receiving a subpoena and still be walking around. katie: david, you agree it should be investigated for another reason. but doesn't the fbi have a credibility problem with the country as a whole and wouldn't a special prosecutor clean some of that up? >> i think what your audience would wants is for to us follow the rule of law whether democrat or republican to make sure these investigations go forward properly and there are impartial decision makers in charge of these investigations. katrina is confused about the standard. if there is a conflict of interest or extraordinary circumstances. neither of those are in place. so sessions made the right place. what happened with mueller is very different. the reason we have a special counsel with mueller is trump fired i'm. when he fired comey that slowed was a conflict of interest. trump said a week later on nbc he fired comey because -- let me finish. the reason that we know that there was conflict of interest is trump went on nbc and said i fired comey because of the russia investigation. that's a true conflict of interest and that's how weenlded up with a special counsel. sessions decided not to have a special counsel there will be is no such concern. there is a u.s. attorney in utah who will follow the rules and follow the laws and he doesn't have a conflict of interest. >> the problem is about evidence. the standard is about evidence from general sessions' mut -- mh itself. there is zero evidence of collusion. when you take loretta lynch sitting on the tarmac with bill clinton. you have hundreds of americans unmasked by the obama administration. and these new texts between strzok and page, quote the white house is leading on this. the house intelligence committee already uncovered fisa abuse. this your conflict. it is a farce and a witch hunt exactly like the president stated. katie: i think people outside the beltway are concerned about this happening to them. i want to switch gears to president trump's infrastructure speech. katrina, you are work on his 2020 campaign. he talked in front of 400 union members in ohio. should that concern democrats when they are trying to get back those districts and counties president trump turned from blue to red? >> absolutely. we'll let the democrats run on taking away their bonuses. in the meantime the president is making america great again. it's expanding financing for a lot of these projects. public-private partnerships in place that i would hope would make states more accountable so they could better suit their citizens as well. i think it will be exciting over the summer. katie: infrastructure is usually a democrat issue. is this something the president will be able to work with democrats on? >> it should be a bipartisan issue. i'm from ohio. we are glad the president went to ohio. the president gave a speech there. he was supposed to talk about infrastructure. but he pretty much talked about himself, his favorite subject. the pro trump people were probably happy to hear that speech. but if you were look for details of the infrastructure program, they were not in that speech. katie: he gave four distinct points on how he wants to implement it. but that's for another time. judge jeanine gave us a tour of the bible museum on this holy saturday night. kim jong-un ready to sit down with the south korean president. sebastian gore today is with you know what's awesome? gig-speed internet. you know what's not awesome? when only certain people can get it. let's fix that. let's give this guy gig- really? and these kids, and these guys, him, ah. oh hello. that lady, these houses! yes, yes and yes. and don't forget about them. uh huh, sure. still yes! xfinity delivers gig speed to more homes than anyone. now you can get it, too. welcome to the party. president trump: this week we secured a wonderful deal with south korea. we had a deal that was a horror show. it was going to produce 200,000 jobs. and it did, for them. that was a hillary clinton special. she said it would produce 200,000 jobs, and she was right. but it was for them, not for us. katie: that was president trump giving a strong speech this week with a major focus on north and south korea. joining us with reaction, author of "defeating jihad," dr. sebastian gorka. we'll start with the news of russia, 60 russian diplomats expelled from the united states. what's your reaction to that? >> i'm very happy. we are coming together as a western alliance to take on russia. according to some estimates there are more russian intelligence officers actively working in the west than there were at the height of the cold war. and they are destabilizing countries like the ukraine or the mirror abrofd russia or assassinating people on the streets of the u.k. we have to respond. katie: administration officials have been saying these diplomats in the united states aren't actually russian diplomats, they are spies under a diplomatic flag. how is it they have been operating pass spies as an intelligence network in the united states for so long and it look this long with the russians boy poisoning a british spy in the u.k. >> in their he bassy they can be work economics, politics, but every nation deploys intelligence professionals to their embassies. in some cases they are declared. in some cases you have a chief of station. but in the case of russia they pack their embassies full of advisors and economists who have nothing to do with those jobs. they are intelligence collectors, they are members of the kgb's new organization. katie: the united states flag in st. petersburg today in russia came down. russia has respond in terms of reciprocity. but it seems that that could be distraction. the expelling of diplomats makes a statement. but should we be worried about real attacks russia could be launching in cyber war. the russians i til trade our energy sector, parts of the energy grid in america. this an important show of force. but should we paying attention of other damages aspects. >> whether it's in cyber domain, i'm more concerned in terms of information warfare, psychological information. it was russian propaganda that went i toll steele dossier that hillary clinton paid for that was used to obtain the fisa warrant. that's the kind of thing we have to respond to as well. katie: the president said he wants to take the united states out of syria soon, given wrush has a lot of influence there. >> i work for the president, the president is not an adventurist. he's a conservative. he's a gop president. doesn't mean's a neoconservative. he sees the invasion of other people's countries as fundamentally you be american. we were born as a nation in rebellion to colonialism. he wants our troops out of syria because he wants to do things back home in katie master sergeant john dunbar was killed there this week. what should we expect from the meeting between kim jong-un and the south korean president. where are we on all that. >> this is a dictatorship. this is more stall lynnist than even the height of stollin's soviet union. what do dictatorships do? they lie, whether it's hitler in munich. let's remember what reagan said, trust but theirify. this is the first time in 65 years, a north korean head of state wants to meet an american president. but don't expect it to go completely smoothly. katie: next, a special treat. judge jeanine takes you inside the beautiful museum of the bible in our to "justice with je jeanine." katie: the museum of the bible is a spiritual and powerful place to visit in washington, d.c. what better time to take a look back at jeanine pirro's under view with steve green from the hobly lobby museum. judge jeanine: you have undertaken this mammoth project, 430,000 square feet, the museum of the bible here in washington, d.c. there is nothing like it anywhere in the world. why? >> i grew up in a hope that had a love for god's word. i group if a christian home. my parents took us to church and raids our family according to the bible. and it has served us well. i'm blessed to be born in a country that our founders built on principles they found in this book. i have been blessed by this book in multiple ways. we wanted to encourage others to consider this book as well. we wanted to inspire them to engage with it. judge jeanine: they say 90% of american homes have within them a bible. yet it seems this generation unlike previous generations has never been more distanced from the bible. why do you think that is? >> we are probably more ignorant of this book than we have been as a nation. we don't teach it in our schools as we once did. it was regularly taught in our schools so people grew up knowing it. our founders would speak from the bible and they wouldn't have to give chapter and verse because everybody knew what they were talking about. today you make a quote from the bible and many people have no idea what the source. even common phrases in our vernacular come from the bible. judge jeanine: you have created technology to tell the story, technology that didn't exist, you created it and patented it. >> one specific example. there is a digital docent. a tablet where a visitor can custom mice it -- can customize it, and it will direct them through the museum using indoor guidance that knows where they are within inches. judge jeanine: downstairs, five doors, how much do they weigh? >> 16 tons collectively. judge jeanine: how do you deliver 16 tons of doors? >> one piece at a time. >> it's amazing how much of our american history reflects quote s from the bible. >> we are just a few blocks from the united states capitol. judge jeanine: what is written in the united states capitol is found in the bible. >> there is a geneva bible in the painting. this is where we have scripture around us all day long and in many cases we don't even know it. phrases from our language that are used. judge jeanine: here you have victoria beckham with a tattoo that literally quotes the song of solomon that the bible is so relevant to so many people in so many ways we don't even recognize. one of the things you have done that speaks to how religion plays such an important part of your life is as a not for profit business owner of hobby lobby, you took the obama administration to the united states supreme court. you fought for religious freedom. you funded the case. the obama administration made a mandate that religion be damned and you would have to pay for abortaffacts for any employee in your employ. you felt that was a violation of your religious freedom. why? and how did it feel when you won? >> if life begins at conception as our family believes. to take part in an abortive drug or process, we view that as taking life. that is something that violates our religious beliefs. there are many in this country that believe the same way we do that taking life is obviously in our mind wrong. so for the government to come in and tell us we had to freely provide to our employees products that could take life, that violated our conscience and we felt we had no option but to challenge the government on the mandate they required to us take part of that. we met as a family. the decision was unanimous. we felt like we had no option but to challenge the government that we love on the mandate they put on our business. judge jeanine: when you won? >> it was an exciting day. for many of us, we somewhat felt like we would have a win, but there is no guarantee. there was a certain comfort that we had that we knew we were doing the right thing. and we were at oxford, my wife and i. the rest of the family was at our corporate offices in oklahoma city, we were sciepg in, and it was a thrilling day to know the foundational principle this nation was built upon, our religious freedoms were upheld. and just the pride of our country i remember some of the feelings i had. this section is called bible now. another app showing how people are opening up the app to engage with the bible. the skeptic comes in and thinks nobody is engaging with this book any more. but people are engaging with this book all over the world. >> we want to invite all people to engage with this book. this book has spoken into people from all different walks of life and has impacted lives from all different walks. so this is a place for people to come in and learn. judge jeanine: steven green, on behalf of so many of us, you and mrs. green, your wife jackie, have done an unbelievable job here. katie, president trump's latest tweets target amazon. we'll see a bored wall. right? when will that happen? "justice" rolls on in just a moment. katie where welcome back to "justice." our panel is here ready to battle it out. charlie kirk and wendy, thank you for joining me tonight. charlie, last week president trump gave a speech to arousedy crowd of 4 -- a rowdy crowd of 400 workers talking about building a wall. >> we need to build the wall. it will be a symbol of our sovereignty which we have been losing the last couple decades. and you look at the cost of illegal immigration. heroin comes across the southern border, kids are human extra figured across the southern border. in arizona an illegal immigrant is twice as likely to commit a crime. the cost on the american taxpayer. it's a small price to pay for the way illegal immigration has been ruining our country. katie: the they are choosing the prototype they want to use. they are building the wall in places that need to be taken back and refurbished. the people in charge of border patrol say this isn't politicians, this is guys on the ground saying in these specific areas we need the wall to keep out human traffickers and drug cartels from hurting americans at home. >> if we want to keep our country safe, that's something we can do. but look at the wall, out of the 697 miles that can be fenced, 654 are already fenced. we are look at individuals who have lapsed visas. they are not necessarily criminals. we can't say immigrants are hurting our country. katie: no one said that. >> we have 40,000 illegal immigrants in our prison systems. an illegal immigrant is twice as likely to commit a crime over a natural u.s. citizen. we are americans, we get big things done. if we had a zero tolerance program. we would execute that. we allowed illegal immigrants to under cut our country and it's destabilizing us all across america. i don't think we should stand for it anymore. it's a key campaign promise the president ran on and he's going to fulfill. >> charlie, that's intellectually dishonest. for you to state the figures of the illegal immigrants in the american prisons. >> there are more americans in america. >> let's face the facts. it's a campaign promise but it's a flawed campaign promise. the president wants to build this wallaby going into defense spending. we can't take money away from our military just to keep a campaign promise. for to you sit here and make it seem as though illegal immigrants are some type of criminals or to criminalize them, that's intellectually dishonest. katie: according to the federal code it's illegal to enter the country without permission. absolutely they are. so let's be intellectually honest if you are in the country illegally you have already broken the law. as we have seen across the country we have states like california, cities across the country not just protecting i will he'll immigrants and allowing them to evade law enforcement. but protecting the worst of the worst. violent abusers. what do you have to say about that when we are being told we are intellectually dishonest about who these people are. >> 98% of the heroin and fentanyl comes across the southern border. if we built a wall and secured our borders we could put a stop to that. and ms-13 has wreaked havoc on our country. if you look at statistics they are twice more likely to commit a crime than natural born americans. they committed a crime by coming here in the first place. citizenship is not a right. you don't get to be a citizen because you crossed the bored. we have to defund these sanctuary cities and strong giving preference to illegal immigrants in sacramento and los angeles because they want to be used as political pawnds by the democratic party. >> what i think is important is we need to secure our borders and make sure americans are safe. but we need to look within our country and see how we can enhance our country. not just saying we are going to preclude a certain population from what's going on in america. katie: we are out of time today. thank you so much for being here. what can the united states do about the persecution of christians around the world? 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>> what's happening is a global genocide against christianity. it's the largest persecuted religion in the world. judge jeanine: why is it happening and who is alowtion it to happen. >> we have four reasons for it to happen in the world. it has been happening for 200 years and a great silence in the world. the west secularism after the french revolution and this i think is the historical reason behind this. then you have the turkish first world war where you had the genocide against the syriac people. and then the wave of the arab states beginning and creation. the world was in so much transformation and changes. then i have europe, the united states, south asia, between the two great wars and the 20th century. but the main reason for this silence has to do with secularism. the trend in the west that they -- judge jeanine: isn't the united states supposed to be the country that protects people and liberties? we are welcoming all these refugees. what about christian refugees? >> they are not allowed to come into the country at least under the former administration. we see hope with a new administration our president. this is why i was inclined when i was doing prayers in israel that he understood that message that america is one of the promoters for christians in the world. i pray he'll continue on his promises in this regard. in my brief meetings with the president and religious leaders. the lady of fatima statue i blessed him with it. spiritual diplomacy should be added as one of the platforms. judge jeanine: i don't know what spiritual diplomacy means? we pray for them to stop? >> i tell you what spiritual diplomacy. simply say the truth. break the silence about the persecution against christians. make sure the world knows christianity is light in this world. don't let oil, money or other values or political intrigues challenge you. that's what i call spiritual diplomacy. it's okay for the president some to stand and say i am a christian, i will stop the murder of christians in the world. i want to allow that faith to flourish. judge jeanine: is the pope doing enough? >> the pope my information says is being informed. definitely he's following up. doing enough? i think he can do more. the pope can do more on the platform of protecting christians in the world and middle east. but i do believe he's very sincere at heart. judge jeanine: he's the leader of the flock, he should be at the head of the spear. what would you like my viewers to do besides the spiritual diplomacy speaking up, what can they do for christians in the middle east. >> check the missionofhopeandmercy.org it tells you the clear action you need to take in today's world. celebrate easter and make sure you stand up for your values, for your traditional values as an american. the middle east is a place of dialogue and peace. we need to keep christianity as a light in this world. judge jeanine: thank you so much for being with us. >> i want to take a moment to wish our viewers a happy passover and at wonderful easter holiday. i have to get to spend time with your family and friends this weekend. thanks for watching. we will be back next saturday. the gregg gutfeld show is next. >> i didn't think we get to the point where you had putin saying it's as intense as it was is the 80s. i heard it called a hot piece. >> that's a good way to describe it. >> yes, hot piece. you have to love dana. 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had been camping out for more than two months. among them was sixteen year old victoria roman chook her parents thought she was hundreds of kilometers away at art college instead she'd become a regular at the protests on the mind on on the day police attempted to clear the square victoria and her friends were out in the streets in front of their makeshift headquarters and now now i didn't immediately understand what was happening suddenly there was an explosion another flight suddenly everything went blaring and i was out. an improvised grenade covered in scrap metal and shards of pottery that exploded at her feet victoria suffered more than fifty flesh wounds but she couldn't go to hospital because police were arresting for testers in the wards. instead she ended up in an improvised field hospital in the smaller street of parents still had no idea she was in q let alone indeed that is until ukrainian t.v. crew a bit. much to my face was covered in bandages so that no one would recognise me but one of my mum's friends recognised this birthmark on my neck in the t.v. report that's how our parents found out. meanwhile tensions were increasing further as protesters began a counter-offensive drawing of a closer to the government district police change their tactics and live ammunition came into play. casualty numbers were rising fast soon dozens of protesters were being killed every day among them was on exam the copying us but before all the shooting got underway he came up to me one morning and put his arms around me and said go home you don't have to be here. i'm going to put that if. i by the end of the week more than a hundred people have lost their lives images like these went around the world presently in a coach's position has become untenable within days he was gone fleeing to russia. five years on from the model does victoria still think the protests had a last impact on the country. i see all the changes these are changes we really need this country is finally being built yes maybe not as fast as we had hoped or expected but it's happening with many even form of protesters say it was all in vain two months protesting and they thought they'd wake up in a new european country with better wages that's not how life works. sexual abuse in the catholic church is a taboo subject in india but last year an indian bishop was accused of raping a nun and now nuns want an end to the silence but the catholic church is stonewalling. its early morning in. the church here has always been a powerful institution but in recent months its foundations have been shaken by six scandals loss of timber a nun in catalonia accused an influential bishop of repeated rape when officials failed to act a group of nuns rattled around the victim and held unprecedented public protests. one of those who joined those protests was sister lucy. she cravat from a home here in the district of why not to support the alleged victim the nun is wary about being filmed public she chooses an empty auditorium to speak abuse in the tests my critics to that now it's happening but it's all right this silent a lot of story i've heard all day. god shared my sisters and i don't how do three experiences like that prompting me tempting me to their own ambition but they're trying and they said trying to sit with them that a lot of mistakes inside the charts but they're not ready to. ready to. wash all of this fault insert off that they're covering up all this the catholic church in india has largely stayed silent on the allegations against the bishop was arrested last year following the protests and then grill east on bail even here and why not officials were relieved to see one priest who did agree sort to downplay the issue my position is my remember. over sixty years. brought. was. brought up in the public discussion so i thought that. apart from joining protests sister lucy has written articles criticising the church silence on sexual abuse she's received warning letters from her congregation ordering her to stop speaking out she's been accused of causing harm to the church and belittling the catholic leadership says that there should be i said like that last anybody can speak freely frankly openly to the world if i am abused to saw them now with that campaign me to them being a stat that so many are coming to the fact many many are coming openly. to that society today to talk there is not if there is no cult like that we are all of a slave. in this case and. despite the warnings the nun has no plans of backing away what i had to do i must do. nothing to stop me like that. sister lucy's hope is that the latest scandal will shine a light on the church feelings and help make some much needed reforms. as the power struggle in venezuela continues and the government cracks down on its critics many venezuelans are fleeing their own country and settling in southern florida but now they're finding the conflict has followed them to miami. life could be so nice in miami beach. new home in exile but when the venezuelan refugee fled to the united states he had to leave behind everyone he left after six months behind bars as a political prisoner he feared for his freedom his safety and his future. and you know i mean he can see i felt persecuted every day the police published a list of wanted people in my name was on that list published in several papers it was a dangerous situation but the only thing i did wrong was the money and liberty about . his new home was in the neighborhood of stately mentions. fancy on the outside but so rundown on the inside he's embarrassed to show that. southern florida is home to one hundred thousand venezuelans bringing with them the tensions of two opposing sides protests are common here against the business partners of venezuela's president maduro self declared president why don't supporters say they are trying to keep their money safe by investing in real estate in the neighborhood. represents the politically persecuted venezuelan so brought he shows us around the miami suburb of garage which many moderate supporters and i'll call home and us and also that i want of that we try to find these people and suggest they are expelled from the us and have their assets confiscated it doesn't make sense that this reflect persecution have to live next to the perpetrators and it's like. this venezuelan restaurant is the preferred meeting place for why dual supporters for our own b m e's are an active member of one party the celtic clear president represents the country's biggest chance for freedom in decades and before night i believe we are now witnessing the end of the my two year old regime we just have to carry on and he will lose popularity and power which is already happening day by day. it happened in rwanda. it's this optimism that keeps on the knees are a life and his hope that one day he can return to his home safely. uganda is an uproar the african country is trying to use the image of kirby and sexy women to lure holiday makers and is even officially listing them as an attraction now feminist activist and their supporters are sounding the alarm. one of these ladies could soon be crowned miss cover uganda the beauty contest is strictly for plus sized queens with commissions bodies and organizers say over two hundred women have applied you must become vicious does ladies know themselves that is the truth when i say when when you ask me what my someone do what size are you going to consider we are considering. the idea to showcase women with car body ships has been fronted by uganda's tourism minister good for it you wonder after the launch of the contest the ministers say the beauty queens could help attract foreign visitors and boost tourism who are using is not on the boat and just spoke out he was. doing oh no we are really good i walk out. women rights groups a furious and have gone to court to block the project for allegedly insulting women . hold their. reduced woman. into group. and therefore we are the one the. one. that's a part of the minister behind this idea need to charge me for yeah because this is not good he's got a wife can you present her as a tourist attraction enough to get around with i think it's some excellent idea because over the years they've been really promoting the slender sizes you fine tune it doesn't schools are trying to take lots of medication to lose weight and this is no intel three for us they're supposed to accept us and they even feel happy that that given the plus size people an opportunity it's just like any other beauty pageant but it's only that this one is only for the plus size. facing the backlash the minister denies accuses sions of using women for truck travelers he has stored parliament that it's a misunderstanding like that special i think you're going to lose should not all. this is my focus was more the subtotal. is more we i want to go to the rest of. the women i was that could help me but i think that i don't know about where they to misunderstanding or not and despite the controversy there are no plans to transfer the contest of the cops. nice and quiet here. on maybe it's actually too quiet. inside they may be small. but they are at the heart of every ecosystem. what will happen if they disappear completely. to. the next just totally. unique to linux and its impact on me are. w.'s global media forum for culturally influential figures from three continents discuss conditions will female artists and changing color structures as well one use my still need to come female nice culture today. in sixty minutes w. make. me take a closer. only you went with the wonderful people in stories that make the game so special. for all true for you all. because more than football on line. today the science show on t w coming up. mission to max of eighty uncovering the mysteries of the plot planets. oh man snow set.
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